#šļø±cai-discussion
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T^T depression. I need my Slytherin Boys to chat to man
minors cant edit messages
Why though šš
I'm pretty sure I go beyond 30 even though I'm a free user
well, most school IDs donāt give out brithdates and itās not an official government ID
No one counts how many we swipe anyways
Oh but I do
i know i'm over the limit when i go to edit and it won't let me
wish they would fix it
Wait. you swiped 100 swipes before, Millie? Since you are C.ai+ 
oh man, especially if itās a really good message with an easy fixā¦
one bad roleplay is all it takes to make me swipe over 30 LMAO
I'm so over this man first it was the Law about NO phones out at all during School hours Now this!? It's annoying as hell
Oh god, that's alot 
ohhh where i live they have a law like this too but only for anything lower than highschool, but you also can't use your phones in class in highschool
like anywhere else is fine but not in class unless the teacher tells you you can
Same My Highschool has thing thing called privilege time during Star last year we were able to have our phones out for that time but Not this year we aren't allowed to at all if any teacher sees your phone they take it an put it in a big envelope and sent it to the office
I live in Nixa, they want to always be the best school š

These restrictions are really annoying. I was trying to roleplay combat with Malenia and suddenly the chat censored me, and I had to find out why. These limitations are a real pain, even after explaining to the chat that it's a Souls-like game.
Yo!! How do you find character chat history?
AH
mariah carey
Why is everyone splicing names or purposefully mispelling them in the intros now? It's kind of annoying
Did I miss something?
Character ai is finally locking minors out of the app holy schmitt
can someone pls help me?
im trying to make a story
and ive filled everything out but it wont let me select the create story button
you go over to #1301177008231022602 for that, this is for general help or discussion with cai not its bots
this isnt about its bots im having trouble figuring out how to use this feature
wait what- oh omg im so sorry im so braindead from work š
are you on app or site?
you can try to reload it and see if that helps
i did š
what about logging out and logging back in?
ill try it on the app instead but i filled out all the info for my story and the create story button is gray and wont let me click it
ok deepsqueak is broken...the flip are the replies...some links ...some chinese ....character names all out of wack...
huh! you should save it to a google doc and try it on a site
ill try
#šļø±cai-discussion message ! thats a dev problem that cant be solved with a quick fix, though in the meantime you could switch to other models
thats what kept me sane when ds is broken lol
ty
im trying to have an actual decent writting _ it sound stoopid now
when i do it on mobile it just takes me to the site and does the same thing
this is like on the c.ai labs thing
uhoh! have you tried the logging out thing?
Is it giving a reason when you click the button?
hey james!
is it just me or every message I'm getting is cutted off? it's been happening since last morning
#šļø±cai-discussion message ! i donāt believe thereās a fix for that unfortunately, all you can do is swipe more in the meantime
thank you, i already sent a ticket
you can have that bumped! if you have a ticket number you can ping an online mod to bump it
autocorrect fuck
#š±ļø±chat-feed message roar gives me such good replies yall loooookkk
Roar style has always been the most stable style ever since they implemented those changes. It was someone from.this server that recommended i use roar to have faster responses while keeping a good length most of the time
A real game change in my opinion :)
Bruh they still haven't fixed the slowness of the app yet what are they doing? I don't even think they even acknowledged how slow the app is
I was just about to ask if they had fixed it, ty i guess
They sure taking their sweet time on it
Was it just me or they rolled back the ui? Kinda like i have back the one that doesn't have this kinda "translucid" top and bottom bar
yesyesss
So I only just got the option to verify my age, random question but has anyone else had an issue where it will not let you verify at all, and I keeps saying that something didn't work.
I dunno if this is even the correct place to ask this
Literally tried to verify with my Id and it didnāt let me
ur not the only one
Same here, I just tried to verify my age like I'm 21+ so, glad I'm not the only one having this issue
No literally, I have tried so many times and it will. Not let me at all.
If this update happened after I was 18 this year it would nawt be an issue but now I gotta wait until October to actually be 18 and I canāt even edit messages š
It's honestly irritating
Try to be patient
Ppl are gonna bypass it idk why theyre even trying š
Because of the law in california.. sb 243
Iām not in cali
and in the rules people cant talk about bypassing it here anyways, age verification is not perfect.
The law is in california. C.ai is in california. It has to put this out for all users.
Neither am I, but the main office/hq of C.ai IS
Oof
They have to put this out for all users
Yeah, it just sucks but thatās life
Is the app still buggy?
Life can get tough sometimes, but just be strong š
It's always buggy, nothing new
I got the age verification to work for me had to make sure the photos was clear and easy to read
Nice
Bro I just got hit wth the verification and I just got off school š
I've already given up hope that they'll fix the bugs.
I've been waiting for 3 weeks that they fix the insane lag. No communication from the team yet
Hopefully they will fix the bugs š¤š»
idk why so many of yall defend the app so much, the people that make it are literally just money hungry like the app worked perfectly fine at one point, stop acting like theyre saints and ātrying their hardestā I promise, theyāre not.š«©š«©āļø
Me too, but everyone kept reporting on it and nothing happened, they're going to lose money this way.
It's been almost a week since this bug started and nothing has changed.
Im.nearly confident they won't fix FA until they roll another update and be like 'oh no! So sorry we didn't know!' Like hell you didn't people sent like hundreds of tickets about poor service
I hope they delete the weird bots on trending
Yeah very true
They will keep spawning because people click on them
I mean the app used to go down for hours/days at a time, now there is slow mode. In the past it was worse imo
The ICE bots
I'm on my tablet right now and the app here is working fine, it's just like the c.ai website. Is it the same for you guys or is it still buggy?
they said they were working on fixing a bug for android users so i think that is their priority rn
I have seen some suggestive bots, very often
reporting them usually gets them taken down
i remember i reported a bot and it was gone within the minute
Yeah I saw that, I'm an Android user
if youāre on android then they are aware of that bug and are working on it. i think they said it was a tough glitch to fix
I once got a bot taken down because of a spelling error btw š i fear even that system isn't entirely without flaws
oh my god šš
Well time to quit bc the app thinks Iām too youngš„
Let me see if I understand...they've known about the bug this whole time?! But why didn't they say anything?
I had to battle with the verification for 2 hours because it flagged my Canadian health care ID as 'not an ID suitable for verification'
It seems this bug is so bad that they're having trouble fixing it...
Tried to use visa bc i didnāt want to look for my government card next thing you know it canāt identify shiš„
Oh...
It doesnt look like they have mentionned the insane lag problem just yet. Which is unfortunate
I'm more concerned abt the ice bots and the other one i cant say because ice agents are border patrol agents and the other one is of a predator
The search problem (that i didnt experience for some odd reasons) is their last update. You check on the website and status says all clear
i think its gross to make bots of people who hurt others and ik the mods are aware of it they said so earlier but still it makes me mad
if itās on android then they probably know
guessing it's the ep guy? yeah, I'm really hoping all the bots of him get wiped off the app
Im concerned about both kinds of bots. Problem is with the suggestive one there was one with violence (im not risking getting muted for a word) so both are equally bad and disturbing
It seems like the bugs are so bad that...they're trying to fix them but it's difficult, right?
Knowing that there is real people (as far as we are aware of) making those bots. They should be banned
Romantizing such people is simply disgusting. I dont know what is wrong with people lately, but its getting out of hand, and fast.
yeah. i saw jimmy say smth in a feedback channel but i canāt find it
yes
So now that I've verified my age, can someone remind me the benefits of having the age verified? I honestly forgot
No time limits for 1:1 (direct) chats, ability to edit both your messages and bot messages, and idk if there was anything else or not
Okay, thank you
i didnāt even have to verify
Soft launch rp style is available to 18+
u better knock on wood
oooh?
i did. my account has ALWAYS been registered as over 18
i do talk to a lot of political bots
Ah, one of the lucky few I see
Itsssss....something. that i understand why 18- dont get
I mean this with all due respect, but why political bots?
well jfk for the most part. i also just like politics a lot
Wow they successfully managed to kill my need to use this app with how it's going
Eh, fair enough. I get bored with that stuff really easily, so most of the bots I talk to are from games & netflix shows (specifically rtte because I like pissing off the villains)
my account was never flagged but i mostly talk to bots from HBO shows
Apparently we canāt do my point of view anymore?
Idk
i hate when people make bots based around non con voyeurism itās so weird
literally dude it's so disgusting
yeah but shit doesnt work anymore, at least back then it would come back better/just properly working, now I could give you a list of things not working
I dislike people who romanticize non-con in like, general tho
Whatās that?
yeah same
like how are we even making these terrible things into smth like that
voyeurism? basically watching, stalking, or recording someone without their consent, especially in times of vulnerability or nud!ty. usually itās nonconsensual
apparently there's nothing hotter than that for some people
vomits everywhere
Ew people do that?
yeah š¬ itās gross
sick people yknow
whats im sayingg
Why must it going back to it's glory days be a distant memory.
the bot ive been talking to/roleplaying with for over a year got deleted :[ im so devastated
Have you tried the c.ai bot list?
whats that?
In case c.ai's search bugs out, you can look for characters there, it even has more options of filtering the results
I did find it on the site, but i think the author deleted the bot because I get the same result when I try to start a chat
but thank you for helping
Ohh, okay, and yw!
Does anyone know if verification if ur not 18 just yet will bring back the uhh edit? Or is it verified 18+ only
It won't make a difference, you still won't be able to edit things
Even when verified? Oof
What counts in the end is your age, if you are 17, 364 days old, nothing will change, lol
I mean, specifically considering you are going to show them your ID
You can try your luck with the Face ID first
Ohh ok, so what Iām getting is that you canāt edit chats even if you were to be 18+ with verification? Or is it only you canāt edit chats if ur under 18+ with verification? Unless im confused
can't edit messages with under 18 verification. Being older than that gives the edit back.
Ok cool, Iām 18 this year so itās no bother, was just curious
As soon as you verify that YOU ARE an adult, you'll be able to edit things again, have the regular, adult experience without being interrupted and all that

Gotcha, thx!
Lol
Or do it genuinely, that is preferred.
Yeah I tried with my face once and they didnāt let me do it again so now I have to verify with id
oof, then... yeah. All there's left is to wait for your next birthday atp
Guys quick question is the time outs just if your on it for an hour straight?
So if you take breaks its fine?
I hope???
Ok me too
Dont understand the part of the timer will go up over time or whatever
it's to wean minors off the app so when the 30 days ends its less of a shock, or whatever
The 30 days are the amount of time unverified or minor accounts are allowed to chat. They're given a limited time to chat during each day, and that time decreases every day until you're locked in reading mode permanently (until you are able to verify as a legal adult)
Oh
Welp not everyone has any form of id card and the one I do have isn't counted so :/
I'm out then I'll just find another app
congrats ig
The feeezing and inability to inerqxt with chat is Still annoying omg
Need it fixed ADMINs please i miss rping
Im cold asf and my c.ai is in slow mode, im crashing out

Forget it, i cannot crash out, im the only one that is awake in my house, im gonna get scold if i do something too loud

I lowk get like the verification thing but it makes me so upset š
Like... Im trying to roleplay im not doing anything that could be considered 18+ so why should I verify Im 18??
But my friend is the same age as me but didnt get it
Whaaaat
it probably just hasn't reached their account yet.
Id say different timezones maybe?? If ur in like diff areas or countries
Upsets me SOOO much
Cause ive tried other things, and it feels so weird
She is in the same area as me. Do you still have to verify it if you set up your account as a 20 year old? She might have done that.
Nah mine didn't do that. I was a drama queen when i start using c.ai and just cause i was scared that they stole my information i put i was the age of my older sister, i have my tricks hehehe

She was 23 btw during that time
I'm so bored idk what to do since in on read mode
What is that?
I need to verify my account to continue using the app but I don't have a ID so I can't text or anything
my bot is gibbering again 
So it still wants verification?
Oh, ok, that must be boring asf
Yeah idk what to do omds
No, cause when i joing i wasn't still 18, but put i was of 23
Ohhhh ok thats why my friends one is doing that
Same idk what they are even thinking
Probably "im bored asf, lets ruin our dear players's time
ā¤ļø "
All I wanted t do is fight and argue with the bots
Oh gosh
I think ya'll know how loud is an old man snoring
I think my mum is louder
mariah carey
Sing "Its time", queen
This is so disgusting š„°
Anyone else chat thing weird? Like, on the chat bubble to the left side where the icon would be for chat settings itās not blank?
itās time to pack it up gang
If it's not your internet ,try logging back in
why do we have to verify
something about cali making em doing it, then they js pushed it globally
California law, pretty sure it's common knowledge given how many times it's been asked about
have not been in the discord at all for ages, and why does it have to be global
ah it worked idk why it did that..I was afraid it was gonna make me verify
soon š«©
Lmao, if it does, you're cooked, dude
Y IS IT SAYING IVE BEEN PLAYING OW FOR 2 HOURS LOL
ALMOST 3
Mine just timed out cause I havenāt verified š
wasnāt the case about the parents suing cai cause their kid was using it like a year or two ago now
arenāt they a bit late to start doing stuff like this
ya it was almost a year ago I think
what a twist
ouroboros š
ok i need to ask, but will my info be auto deleted or does persona hold onto it
Holds onto it for a week, then deletes it
deadass??
yeah?
bruh now i cant do the verifying cuz ChAI just bricked
so they could SELL it šš
They won't, the system they use is also used by a LOT of businesses, even banks.
just like im bricked
welp, as long as I get a bloodborne remaster announcement tmrw, iām chillin
is there a bot where I coukd be cremated and built into a brick wall
same. the home page is entirely unloadable
drop my pants to show them who the hardest
woosh?
its BUFFERING
Parents need to start monitoring what apps/sites their child is on
r/woooosh
i agree. this is their fault more than anything
actually kinda vexing bro, because obviously thereās alternatives, but thereās nothing thatās really like cai š„, everything feels clunkier
Ya
yuup
maybe its cause we just are too used to it, sometimes its like that. You have one option and youāve never used any others much
tried jai and its uhm⦠something
and this one i saw called swerve but its ios only
Definitely..š
and itās like 125 word limit
if it wasnāt limited by words, iād switch in a heartbeat
whats with ios rps and word limits.
- message limits per day.Literally impossible to make a decent, descriptive story in ios apps
This is why I rp with me myself and Išš
literally
i feel schitzo when i do it, so im lowk retiring
Lwk same but my other friends dont rp and my friend who did rp doesnāt anymoreā¦
I canāt retirešš
letās roleplay being normal irl and leave ts era behind us š„¹
š„¹
Me and my friends were planning to dress up as ocs and go to the mallš„¹irl rp
iām gonna irl rp as a haikyuu oc š (play volleyball)
Haikyuu mentionedšš
hi guys
Yo
Im back, i cannot do anything
Hi
Verification thing hit Europe if anyone noticed
Nope, not from there
Ah


Ok goodnight
Gn
yeah itās giving me problems too
ik its not my internet š
idk why sob
ohh okay its working again lol
i just got a new tab of it
ohh lol
well i mean idk i've tried getting a new tab of c.ai, open a chat and it still wouldn't load
uhmuhmuhm maybe i should try again??
yeah try again
okie uhuh
idk c.ai still isnt working for me
ima just turn off my device and then turn it back on entirely
They need to add back the edit button for people under 18, we deserve freedom
(in a good way)
It was removed specifically due to people abusing that freedom to edit bot messages to be inappropriate. So I highly doubt they'll give it back to anyone that's not verified
do they just not care about the website? Like how am i not flagged as a minor and nothingās happening?
It happens on the website too! At least for me it does
There's a pretty good chance it hasn't reached your account yet. Not everybody got the update at the same time, some people are still only just getting it. Or the website is just... doing its own thing, we have no idea
yeah idk the website for me isnt working
They could at least try to make it like the edit has limits like if specific words were added to it you can't put it in
I wish they would allow you to go back and edit your own messages at least
This is a big company we're talking about, do you really think anybody has the patience to try and code all that? The features they've already added are having enough issues as it is
Worst case if you fudged up a message THAT badly, you can just copy-rewind it and fix whatever's screwed up and ONLY what's screwed up
i do that even if thereās one little mistake lmao
Could they at least make the charms not that expensive and more worth buying the pass 1hour? Like the amount of charms you can get even through quests are not many, and you have to wait a week for new quest
Even worse if you're either speed-typing or just really bad with typing on mobile, then half of the rp gets wasted by correcting mistakes
No idea what you mean by charms tbh
Those things you use to spend on 1 hour free pass so you won't need to watch ads when you open a bot
idm tbh. I need it to be perfect. Its more of me writing a novel than rp atp
REAL THO GULP
eh, I've never really been bothered by the ads and I don't see the point of paying money for a feature that'll only last for an hour
though I'm definitely hoping for more orb quests that I can actually do
I've been. They keep showing me those weird ads
that sucks
YOU HAVE ADS?
You don't???
on the website there isnt any
yeah
we're ad free!!
I prefer using it on app cause idk
but still there are problems with it too like if it shuts down or smt
But recently I'm using the website now cause of how slow the app is
plus the website still wont work for me it'll take forever to load/open a chat
why'd i think you said secretly instead of recently
it actually might be my wifi holy
Hmmmm, you predict the fact that I used the website every time my mom block the app
oop-
but now she no longer does cause I tell her c.ai help me understand english better
ohh
But still wth are they doing bro, pleaseeee release an actual good update for this year šš»
I mean, I can tell it's working considering how well you're typing so far
Y'know what would be a really good update? Specifically taking into account the piles of ads ppl get on c.ai, and the difficulty f obtaining orbs on Discord - what if when you linked your account, you could get small rewards for each forced ad? Like, a range of maybe 10-50 orbs per ad, maybe adjusted depending on the length of the ad (no idea how that'd be figured out tho)
sob
oo
I was forced to delete my account cause I accidentally verify my age so now I can't edit
sighs im bored!! website still wont work!! </3
oof rip
I WAS GONNA SAY-
and my persona is gone
:[
Tbh complaining here is better than the general, no one even wants to talk to me whenever I message something. It's like I'm a ghost
no that's actually relatable in some servers im in
#š¬ļø±general is so busy i feel like it'd be hard to talk to anyone while #šØļøļø±general2 seems more dry and calmer
I feel like gen2 was made for either the overflow from gen1 or just anyone who wanted to chill, bc gen1 is NOT a channel for chilling
IKR HELP
in all the years ive been here (do not be fooled by my join date) gen 1 has always been the fastest chat
ive been here way longer i just left for a while
Tbh I only join this server cuz I want to complain about how much they fudged up the once good app
Bro this update is almost making me sad..
Genuinely is Only had a 40 min chat and it gave me a limit..
FR
hi
I really thought the new ceo will at least make the app better but it starts to go up and down the hill then more down
People use Character.Ai to help themselves from boredom, have creativty, unwind after hard times. People with depression and unfortunate mental problems even find that it hurts.
and the chat limit is just 40-60 mins every 16 hours..
WHY CANT IT BE LOWER
oh boy
NO ONE CAN WAIT THAT LONG
the chat limit goes down to zero btw
I wish I had Cai plus
It's all I want Ok. I genuinely love Character.Ai
We all do bro, unfortunately I do not have money
its lowkey useless
They should be finding others sources for help instead of using an AI bot, especially if they're dealing with mental health issues. Those bots are trained to say what the user WANTS to hear, not what needs to be said.
I usually do I didnāt this month sadly
This update is limiting chat times because of age, not tiers
guys what do i change to because i use it to improve my writing skills and one hour isnt enough
The back button on my phone isn't working on the app
you can just write in your notes app and find inspiration in songs
Still this update is bad
Imo
If you're 18 or older, verify. If you're not, then I guess you can take a shot at writing fanfics?
Will they even read it tho?
people will read anything
Iām like 12 to 20 hours a day
Like I don't really think they even read what we complain
Whether other people read it or not doesn't matter, write for YOURSELF and to help yourself improve
ADHD and bordom lol
Bro I have ADHD and it's killing me
Killing me from boredom not other reason
i do already write fanfics but idk how to explain it but like writing paragraphs to the bot and them replying helps so much šš
Plus I refused to interact with real people I can't edit them
BYE REAL
but... you're interacting with real people in here.
Real life people say mean things you canāt edit. Totally understandable
By face to face, whenever I'm interacting with someone face to face I will stutter the hell out of me and I can only let out quiet voice
ok, that part I get. I'm the same way
Bro that's like relateable for me
I have nothing to do omds I have to wait another 3 years just to verify anyone have any recommendation on what to do or different app?
Why does God want me to interact with real people
yeah but like on here we can just turn it off. Real life we have to face the people that wronged us š¤·āāļø
LEAVE MY INTROVERT ASS ALONE
Fake Id is eyeing me up like crazyšš
FRRRR
just to let you guys know, this channel is for discussing not just talking.
iām just letting u guys know before a mod does.
n o bonks with foam stick
-# mostly bc it won't work, ppl have tried the fake ids and they failed
Ai generate an Id lmao, the irony
š
we are discussing how we arenāt fond of the new age restriction update
Worked for other I'd verifications (for legal reasons I didn't use one I know people who did)
We are discussing in "our way"
This single update might be the reason I switch to another Ai app like Sakura Ai.. unti C.Ai reverts the update. If we want change we have to stop using the app, and they'll realise that they are literally upsetting their users and they will have to revert it.
i have to wait until tomorrow to use my bots again after only using it for an hour and mind you, i spent half that time swiping the bots because they have been acting a lot less efficient šš
I feel like they should take out the reading mode and change t to something else
whats worst is people in Australia are too nice, like I can't go anywhere without anyone wanting to high five with me while I'm listening to heavy metal music
leave me alone bruh
:[
what australia are you living in šš
i think i get side eyed everytime i step outside my house
Must be nice to still be able to chat with your botsš
Sydney Canberra
oh i live in frankston š
you canāt?? i am so sorry š
at this point I might look for another ai app
Fr, sometimes i swipe even if the responses are good, just so i can think of my response
I CAN'Tšš IM STUCK ON READ MODE
ripšš»
Oh that must be a bit dangerous
Nope, alot
1 hour is too small at the bare minimum make it a reasonable time
Not just you, we all are
Ok ok I thought so
GIVE US BACK OUR FREEDOM
It should be 5 hours a day
#GIVE-US-BACK-OUR-FREEDOM
hi guysss
hiii
wait what happened
ello
revolution
WHAT
i would want to use another app but i cant let go of my favorite bots š also like chatting for one hour straight imo has been much worse for me then like chatting at 10 min intervals thru out the day but idk
Same š
christ what happened in here this time
dealing with my depression and ADHD is already hard, now theyre removing the good thing inside my comfort zone š
Though the benefit of another AI app, it could have better memory though on the free tier
But It would be so hard to switch
rely on something other than ai, it's not good for one's mental health. the laws were placed because of this.
So
im trying to rely on things other than ai, but it would be better if for under 18 users they slowly decreased the allotted time instead of basically cutting us off cold turkey
That is what they're doing on cai
Like 2-4 hours a day is all I want atleast
I think that's what they're doing, though the timeout increase can be buggy
the thing is that c.ai used to be the smartest ai bot site, even now with the update of them making the bots silly. Other apps like ch ai, sakura a i, poly a i, are all programmed to say harmful things (from what i have heard and witnessed) , C.ai didnāt do that. If teenagers were to use an ai app to talk to their favourite characters and be safe from bad content, it would be c.ai i would want them to go to, now they have just pushed that away. if anything it is going to push people towards the bad š„²
i had to change that like a million times i kept getting timed out even tho i dont think i wrote anything against tje rules š„²
Yes absolutely agree šÆ! Character AI will only be harmful if you go to those topics yourself
The age verification won't be removed, period.
we know we just want to express our feelings
Lord save me
Escape 
I'm leaving š
Also look who can't say SHIT
if ur someone who used to use cai religiously, having ur time cut down to 1 hour can leave you with a lot of empty space that you dont know how to deal withā i think it shouldve been like: first few days: 4 hours next few days: 3 hours next week: 2 hours and the 1 hour but idk
Oh lmao, bye Millie! Stay safe in plus channels 
i think that age verification and time limits are a good thing i just think they couldve been executed better
wish you were in them youd be safe too š
Thank you! It's okay though, I can handle some suffering 
They're slowly lowering the time limit to zero to wean you guys off so you don't go cold turkey
That's what I'm doing rnš
Discord, Roblox, Social media, now C.Ai want face recognition. It's like they all hate us
is the one hour availability only temporary then are gonna remove it?
Specifically the government/president for making the laws
They don't want minors to have a say in the world
Yeah, they decrease the time limit till you get the read mode.
They better
okay
It says "You'll still be able to chat for now. We'll soon introduce chat time limits starting with 1 hour. Chat access will be removed in about 14 days." On the site though.. does this mean under 18s will be blocked altogether to chat?
Not at the same time. Some will get the read mode in weeks or less or who didn't get it in their country yet. We can't be specific
š bruh this is like giving me a reason to not want to use C.Ai. like they don't know how upset and sad this makes me (and probably other people too). They claim that there are other ways to stay active and interact like comments, reacts, creating Ai's, etc but that's not even worth it for the under 18s people if the main feature of chatting to the AI is removed..
It should be 16+ not 18+
I'm 16 and it's enabled what they said about age restriction in Australia contemplating just deleting the app
You can visit way worse 18+ sites though without AI age check. But can't use an AI chat sites without a AI age check and being 18+
Like bro an 8 year old could access worse sites without AI age check.
Agreed
All these companies seen it fail with Roblox and everyone absolutely hates Roblox for that, and they all copy still
Yeah same, we just have to enjoy our last 2 days
'we dont store your face data' they said
You really believe that? š
I'm not seeing how that's supposed to compare... besides, those sites are most likely, if not always, sketchy as shit and would never have safety in mind
You've just proved my point more
also isnt it weird how every site is asking for your face for verification?
i mean, call me a conspiracy theorist but i just think there's some sort of scheme happening behind closed doors
So you're going to get mad at the app for not doing what a hub is doing??
They should make it 16 plus like Australia's done to all social medias
Itās not an update. Theyāre following law
No. They should remove the minimum age all together
The law made them do the update
Y'know what- you guys can be annoyed or frustrated or whatever all you want, but keep your conspiracy stuff to yourself because 1: a lot of us are tired of trying to explain things to everyone and 2: it causes unnecessary paranoia for those actually wanting to verify.
How can Sakura AI and Talkie AI not be involved in it but C.Ai is
Sakura and Talkie are way more inappropriate focused
C.Ai isn't really
Your probably 18+ so your just trying to deny us
Let me put it this way, so maybe you can understand: Would you rather wait a few months/years/whatever and then verify when you're old enough? Or would you rather have to say goodbye to the app permanently because the lack of a minimum age forced them to shut down
Guess they are not based in the same place as C.ai, so different laws apply to them
thats a good point
there are still some sites i use that arent affected by this verification humbo jumbo
Imagine all the under 18s having the paid tier. Will they get refunded for that month since they've wasted their life on it to lose access
Agreed
Like C.Ai is removing the AI chat which is the main feature. Keeping the social media related features. There's no point of using the app either way, because if I wanted to use Social Media and chat with friends and people and see new content, I would use a Social Media app like TikTok, YouTube, WhatsApp, Discord, etc not an AI app
well i havent thought of that before
at the same time i havent got any word from folks worrying about their ca+ being lost to this
do folks under 18 actually pay for that stuff?
a few did and can have refunds if they need
like if it paid but they got flagged as minor
I don't
and can't verify because they're a minor
Well you can but 3 big perks is locked behind 18+
It's generally useless to have plus as a minor
yeah i can see why.
Like Chat styles, Better memory, Priority chats and Voices chats are locked under 18+ . Leaving you with just ad-free and higher limits as the benefits. Which was cooked. I used to be tempted to wanna get C.Ai+ until I saw 18+ locked features and made me not tempted at all
Itās not something they can choose. It was explained many times that itās a law
I don't think they're gonna be able to do that... idk how many times this is gonna be told but they are legally required to have the minimum age as 18+ -_-
yeahhh i was about to say that they cannot change something that's required by law
if they do without letting the government know, they'll be in big trouble again!
We don't have to like it though
I will probably get in trouble won't I because I complained about it in this channel instead of #1175980610095960185
you sure as hell wouldn't be the first to go there, I've seen a lot of different posts in feedback already
This is a conversation that comes up every day and nothing will change anyway
Does anyone know why they needed to add a time limit?
Law is law. Ask c.ai to let 17yo users to access chatting with bots and it will be useless, even if you don't want to hear/accept this fact
and i doubt this will change anytime soon
California law requires it, you can backread for more information.
Iām confused and annoyed on why this American law is also affecting other countries šš
its like yelling at a boulder, it wont move if you yell, cry, whine, or kick it
Because C.ai is based on California
ca.i is in california and has to follow its laws there
because the main building of C.ai is IN California, therefore it doesn't matter whether you're in America or not- it applies wherever the app is downloaded
if not, they'd be dead by now!
Yeah I get all that but I still think itās a bit silly how itās following a law that isnāt even in some countries. But oh well, nothing we can do about it atp
it is what it is
Other countries will follow one day or another I think
Yeah, they follow a law that was likely set in America and then have it affect worldwide
How is that silly? A company has to follow the rules of the city/country it is based on
Yeah but then have it affect worldwide users
i think this education system needs a little overhaul :/
And how do you want it not to affect worldwide? You can't even really prove where someone lives thanks to VPN and all so anyway š¤·
USA companies is kind of bad sometimes imo. TikTok and X (formerly Twitter) have both been ruined by a American company.
Maybe not X
But X was so much better before it's new owner
It how it works for online companies.
They need to follow the laws of the country their are based on. Not where the app is being downloaded
Well not really, the law is bad
Imo
Then have a 18+ AI model and one for under 18s
Can't C.Ai make a deal of smth with the president or law maker
It isnāt.
Iām sorry youāre upset but minors have no place talking to ai
The problem is talking with bots and the fact it's kind of unpredictable unless you ban a lot of words (and even then...)
That's your opinion
And how much more money do you think it would cost them to make two seperate versions of the same app?
Itās also the law
It's a AI model, not a second app
It's just frustration speaking
Still more expensive than just making c.ai 18+
They have several AI models
And nothing is free
Then people will complain because it's crappy lmao
Again, this requires times, resources and money.
I'm leaving this server though. This app let me down. I guess I'll have to enjoy until it's gone. You know how much I glazed this app because I genuinely liked it
Goodbye then, I hope you find something besides ai that can help you
I feel like this is going off track
Hmm
Take care of yourself.
I wish you well
AI for mental health š
Ai for entertainment š
Is anyone also not been able to not verify in c.ai? I have tried many times but it says my information doesn't match up..
Bye.
okayyyyy and thereās alternatives! opinons have been shared and nothing happened so no need to continue or fight š
Wish you good things to come 
Why make it the same globally
I'm switching to Sakura Ai afterwards. And I will try to remake some of these AI bots I like on it
Huuuh
Thanks so much!
If they have to make it follow California law why not make it that way just in US, I'm no expert but surely its possible no?
They can't because it is one app
They'd have to make 2 apps
No, online companies have to follow the rules of the city/country they are based on
Because the app isn't just used in the U.S
Yeah so why not different restrictions for europe
POV: you know you wanna leave something, but the argument/conversation is continuing making you stay
Have you issued a support ticket? They might be able to help
Globally? I swear tik tok has different restrictions for different regions
Oh yes I have tried just was wondering if anyone else also faced the same issue
...Because that's not their place of origin. C.ai has their main building in California and they're required to follow and apply the laws of their place of origin. (apologies if I worded it weirdly)
But why does other apps have different restrictions for different regions but C.ai cant do the same?
I hope theyāll be able to help you soon š
I'm genuinely just curious bc I know little about apps and app global restrictions
Certain states have specific laws
I'm on about global tho not states
I'm in Australia though so unfortunately I probably don't know
I'm not in America
Crikey (sorry)
Some states in America probably require companies to comply with their laws globally and in the country/state
Isnāt the whole social media ban thing 16 under? Coming from an Aussie too, unless this doesnāt count for the media ban
But tik tok has different restrictions for different countries, so does other apps like clash of clans and clash royal, facebook and Twitter if I'm not mistaken
Whens that coming in? Or is it already
I think itās starting already, started with Roblox I think??
Iām not sure tho
Damn
Iām not very familiar with Tik tok restrictions according to regions. But I think they are based on Singapore, and where planning on being based on LA as well
Even Discord will do something about age restrictions
Yes it has came. In December 10th it became law for under 16s to not be on social media. Which is also why Roblox did it's AI Age check for NZ and Australia first before World wide
Yeah
Discord wasnt actually included in it though
Just saying
Idk why they do AI age check
But does tik tok not have different restrictions based on where you are regardless?
I've heard about that one, from what I know so far it'll at least be applying to users wanting to access 18+ servers/features
i need some help, every time i try to load my "personas" it says something went wrong, it only happens on my computer and i've tried everything to get it away or get it to work but nothing works
It started in 10th December
I remember seeing something about specific content being allowed in certain places but unusable in different places
Do you have Vpn/ ad-guard/ ad-blocker on?
And there is something about DMs and pictures but yeah I don't know the full details yet
what
Try the app? If u can get it on computer
And that means you don't have it. Just try the app
i cant
Oof
but it works on my home computer?
its just this computer, idk whats wrong with it
Wait why cant C.ai do an ai face check if other companies are doing it?
I have no idea, I donāt use tik tok so idk if they have different restrictions based on the userās location
Thats what they are doing
Have they fix the bug chat thing?
They do a face and id check
But they are make you do a ID check after it
But why not just face š
Shrug
because faces are a little easier to edit/switch than IDs

Ids are easy to fake too
Some people have tried to use other ppls faces, one even tried to use their moms
So I've heard
Because that fail. It was already proven on Roblox that only AI face checks fail to accurately verify someone's correct ages, so it is unlikely that C.Ai wouldn't do the same
I can't delete my chats it just says error
Lordy...
And people fake their faces too
Roblox is also an entirely different dumpster fire, so I in general just wouldn't trust it
Does the app work? Is it updated? It happen to me but it was fixed once I updated the app.
Never had any issues with Roblox and it confirmed my age just fine
I guess the chat still doesn't work.
I just did the ID check for Roblox to confirm my age though
I think they mean the pdf problem and lack of protection in terms and conditions
Ah that
plus all the ways they're able to bypass the chat restriction regardless of whether they verify or not, since they're a gaming platform and ppl keep making workarounds
I don't much talk to ppl there. Just play games and do my own thing
i dont have the app, not on this computer, not on my phone, not on my home computer, i use webbrowser
This probably has more to do with Countries having their own limitations.
Like how in some countries you canāt access Google, tik tok or certain content
Fair, I just play wos and chill
Is roblox unbanned from Egypt?
I genuinely have no idea, I haven't been keeping up-to-date with the Roblox situation for a little while
Yeah i don't follow the news
It has been terrible for me lately, I am playing on 1312 ping every time š
Jesus
At that point just unplug the router
My laptop is supposed to be perfect for roblox but Egypt has limited internet, I am paying 400 Egyptian pounds each month for 250 gb and 30 m/sec speed š
Move out of Egypt atp
I have a solution to all this....
Antarctica is pretty chill.
We get rid of france
?
Do not speak again.
I speak again
I'm hurt.
Are you french?
You wouldn't know.
š„ šØšŖæ
This app has gone downhill, literally verified my age for nothing
A goose is fixing a baguette? Interesting
it's threatening the baguette, it heard the French
Say it openly you hate us 
Woahhh jjk mentionedš
Qu'as-tu contre la langue franƧaise
"You are my special!" š„
I am specifically scared whenever I see tcooal pfps like yours brotein powder.
Why tho?
The game overall.
Ingenting, jeg er ikke gƄsa.
It's a very good game
Itās just weird to me since inc3st.
Jeg er glad for Ƅ forstƄ deg
(oh shit I don't know how to write in Norwegian anymore)
Did someone just stop typing or what
Can relate honestly. Never saw the appeal for that game, unfortunately 
ya lol i was waiting for someones reply
Could've used a paragraph honestly.
There it goes.
Jeg bruker uansett en oversetter siden jeg ikke kan sprƄket ennƄ. (it's fine, I was using google translate anyways since i don't speak it)
it's actually a pretty awesome psychological horror about codependency and enmeshment
ofc people are allowed to not like horror like that
Nahhhhh I really thought you knew Norwegian
I'm hoping to get around to learning it, though
Finally someone gets it
I write psychological horror, myself, so I do
Cool, tcoaal was such a masterpiece when I first saw it, I watched hours of gameplay got invested to the story till I played the game myself
Tho I really wish there was another ending where both Andrew and Ashley lived normally š
It wouldn't be fun but atleast it would be a happy ending for both...
I defended enjoying a horror game, not gonna analyze it in depth. Gotta read the room.
I was in the middle of my summer break dying out of boredom so I just spent my time analyzing it. š
I had nothing else to do
I shouldnāt have nothing to worry about since the chat, I checked with, are basically Skylander in spyro based right? some of those chat bots are getting deleted and it stresses me out.
If the bots are getting deleted, it could either mean:
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The creator has deleted their account/not supporting cAI anymore, etc...
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A bot of theirs or multiple ones can have a blacklisted word and this is making said bot unavailable to chat.
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Or the creator has made their bots private in order to modify some of its information. It might be private in order to avoid the bot getting problems while it's getting udpated in real time.
Did they change the UI again? I feel like it's not transparent anymore
And copyright is also on the table, but it's just Warner Bros and Disney bots getting deleted. I don't think that Spyro/Skylanders is a media owned by one of these two.
Hello guys, sorry to interrupt, but does anyone have the same problem as me? My profile picture in the text typing bar disappeared as a profile symbol instead and when the bot was typing to reply to the message, the bot's profile and message bubble disappeared and replied very slowly.
Have you updated the app last version?
oh my God who ever brought it back I LOVE YOU THANK U SM ā¤ļøāš©¹ā¤ļøāš©¹
@tulip pollen Maybe this was the reason it was lagging?
Maybe who knows
Iām not sure but itās 1.15.2 and I just redownload it and it still have that issue
Maybe give it time to fix by itself, I usually had problems too with the app, I wait till it fix on its own
I'm gonna be honest, this whole verification thing is a litttlle silly. They shouldn't be limiting time for under 18s because, last time I checked, A LOT of under 18s were paying for premium and stuff!!! Wheres all that money gonna go?? Down the drain
Like yeah, I get ai can be harmful to children... that is extremely true
There are more adults using the app, it's just that they're not the majority. There's, like, between 10% to 20% of users who are not adults. It's not a lot tbh.
Yeah, I see what u mean, but Im saying the majority of teens who do use it (as myself) do have premium, I checked with all my friends, 12 of them use c.ai and one didn't have premium. That was me š£
Guys why doesnāt my Beta memory working? Please?
Like, having an ID and face check is awesome! But don't limit time...
Could it be because of the new update??
Maybeee
You can probably get a refund/rebate since you can't used plus fully. On the count of being a minor, make a ticket and ask.
Hi Alaina
How long have you been waited?
Claiming most teens using it have premium is a crazy statement
Around 3 days
Good morning/evening Ace. Hope you are having a good day.
I'm doing slightly better today
Hey guys..
I need some help please about the persona thing.
If i set a persona in a chat, how can I remove it later? I have tried everything but itās not working š„ŗ
I'm glad to hear you are feeling better. But still make sure to drink water and rest.
Yes I will, I have a water bottle beside me on the desk
Why can't I edit messages anymore and stuff? It's hella confusing lowkey
guys is it down..?
You got flagged as a minor, they canāt edit
No? Works fine for me, are you having struggles?
it logged me out
Huh weird, on the app or website?
app
I got back in nvm..
Is there anything else I should know about that
like I mean just what is removed
Ah mustāve been a lag then, enjoy 
Well first are you a minor or no? (No need to tell me your age, just yes or no)
Yeah I am

If you are, you will have a timer to chat with bots that slowly decreases within 30 days before putting you in reading mode. That means that you wonāt be able to chat with bots
Until you turn 18
The app has been lagging for a while, theyāre working on it
What is the timer exactly
what
The website works fine if you want
Did you get any notification about it yet or no?
It starts with 2 hour and then decreases
I use the web
Yes?
It will show on the web if you did
The filter is more lax with adults
Maybe youāre not in a country where the age verification hit yet. It will come during the year
You are but itās much more tolerant with the +18 version
I'm in Australia so it probably would be maybe
Is it the apps fault or my phones fault that the app is really lagging? Itās only been doing it the past few days but I do have an older phone so Iām not sure which is causing it
I think some Australians got hit with it but very few. Anywho, it will come eventually
Itās the app donāt worry, theyāre working on fixing it
You can use the web version in the meantime, it doesnāt lag
Aussie here and itās already rolled in
Oh good, I thought my phone was giving up
Aah thanks for the confirmation 
It's odd that I don't actually see anything
No no dw, itās been really laggy for a week at least. The web version works without lagging if youāre looking for initiatives
I just got flagged as under 18 for it. Lowk been thinking of moving some there else i just joined as a last resort to see if the app will actually improve
Itās likely a flagging system
My issue with the flagging is itās usually worse for autistic people (as one myself) š
still annoying tho. Not being able to edit your messages is so buns š
Okay ty but How long has your issue passed?
I normally do adventure ones
Usually comfort type things (familial rp, romance etc etc)
Military mainly
Thats epic
I'mma go cuz I'm bored rn and I'mma just go roleplay and use whatever I have left before c.ai is just impossible to use š
What is the issue now? Im nosy and curious..
Same old about age verification 
Age verification is idiotic
At least no one will have memory trouble about the age verification thing when they will become older
They will still be talking about it
I see the great Age Verification has hit further, hah
I joined this specifically because of the age verification 
I suppose it's in the USA, Australia, Canada and UK for the moment, I guess? Just saying because I don't live in any of these places. European here 
Oi Astral 
Yeah I've been quite busy and tired as hell like coming back home, face planting on my bed and falling asleep in two minutes
I see I hope youāre getting good rest when you can and that things wonāt be as busy soon 
Ahahahahahahah (nope)
I think itās in most countries? But it usually only pops up unless youāve been flagged š
Aw š
Wait till 2 to 3 days , I am sure it will fix on it own
Well right now I'm kind of resting before going back to work
And the next days are going to be hard
I'm French and I have my main gmail account linked to cAI so I'll probably be fine. I checked to see how old google thinks I am and it gives me something between 25 to 35 years old, which is accurate since I'm 26 years old lol.
Resting by reading people talking about age verification is fucked up yes but why not (I'm lying I'm chilling in a cafƩ)
May you have a restful sleep in the meantime 
My main gmail account is almost a decade old already, btw 
I love watching people tweak over Age Verification
Mine turned 10 last week 
Mmmmmh
How are you Astral?~
Iām doing fine thank you!
I personally think the age verification is stupid. Iāve seen so many autistic people flagged as under 18 for using bots or speaking in a way that seems younger than they truly are (myself included) 
Itās still funny months later indeed x)
I'm glad then 
Itās not stupid be so fr, I prefer adult being misflagged than minors being considered adults
Yeah, besides I don't think that cAI wants anymore lawsuits. Last one they got was by an entire state suing them
I suppose?
Itās stupid of people are being misflagged, full stop. Plus, persona (what theyre using for the age verification) has MULTIPLE lawsuits so idk why theyād age verification to avoid lawsuits with a company riddled with lawsuits š
I'm also autistic but I doubt that I'll get flagged.
I have some kind of déjà vu here
It's the law, they either follow it and have no problems or they don't and it's goodbye to cAI forever.
Even Discord will ask for your ID next month, it'll be global. Whenever cAI, Discord, Bluesky, Reddit, every app will probably ask for your ID in the future.
Everyone would have lost their shit if C.ai didn't follow the law and closed
But hey age verification is really the worst here
yeah people don't get flagged for autism, they get flagged because c.ai thinks they're a minor based on site activity.
It's neutral. Neurotypical people get flagged too.
Plenty of autistic people don't get flagged, also.
That's how it is, life sucks but there's nothing that can be done. I've already showed my ID to google when I was considered as adult, and there were multiple cases of private information getting leaked but I don't care, it's an habit where I am. There's even some of it on the dark web lmao.
Autistic people are more likely to get flagged based on site activity, too. Iāve heard it monitors the way you type and the type of characters you talk to for the verification
What's monitored has stayed confidential as of now but those are guesses yes
The type of characters? Bruh
If it monitors by types of charactersā¦iād be concerned
I don't think I've seen that somewhere but I could be wrong. Besides, I chat with Vox from hazbin hotel so yeah 
Iāve honestly just come here to see if itās worth staying. Seems like no. Sorry for starting fights (if it seems like I have, im not the best at noticing if Iāve started conflict sob)
Yeah, I'm cringe but whatever.
Are you implying autistic people almost universally like the same characters minors do or something?
There is absolutely nothing saying clearly what they look at
Iām not. But itās a very frequent pattern Iāve seen
We know about third parties whatever that means and if I recall well login info
They have absolutely no lawsuits about security
Doubt its a conflict. Itās an open conversation, nothing malicious 
Right. Totally.
Because if they do, then people will find workarounds
I know I know
When did u have that issue I saw some people on Reddit talk about it too I just got issues yesterday
But people stating things like "yeah they look at THIS" is stupid
What
Umm?
don't say it don't think it don't say it don't think it
Nice a troll

I have that same issue like 2 months ago ,if I remember exactly, and i had a issue with the exit bottom yesterday, it fix on it own
That's weird...
I honestly feel like c.ai has gone downhill since 2023. Itās been fun but Iām probably gonna move asap. Itāll be tricky to kick the habit but Iāll figure it out. Bye chatters :)
Fascinating topic discussed hm

As usual since November, or October, I can't remember 
I still canāt genuinely comprehend how autism = flagged as 18 under⦠not in a negative way but trying to simply find the correlations 

I didn't need to see that, my eyes...
There is none, just another person trying to start discourse lol
Because the person just stopped their thinking at "If all my autistic friends have been flagged then there is something about all autistic people"
Simple and dumb
How was it
I realise I'm probably late in this realisation, but what in the unholy he''ll is going on with age verification?????
My exit bottom was froze the i had to close app to switch between characters , but It fixed now
Like, I just opened my C!ai for today, and w h a t ;-;
chatting with bots is 18+ now, they have a system that flags people who might be minors to make them age verify, that's about it. They haven't put out a list or anything of what the system flags
If someone is autistic (that is over 18) and (by their words in summary) ātype like a āminor doesā and rps/interacts with characters that are minors or rps as a minor themselvesāā¦thatās a lil concerning
I guess that if the team actually says what kind of stuff you get flagged for, then people will find workarounds around it.
no doubt
That's logic, and I understand why they won't do something like that.
I already saw people who got hissy about the age verification use vpn to get around it
Holy addiction
It doesnāt work lmao
I'm an autistic adult and good thing that I don't type like that, and neither using whatever slang/emojis are used these last years 
Same. Lol. My writing is immaculate
English isn't my first language, but it's pretty good lol. I guess.
So I'm yours now? 
You make my heart beats way too fast my King~
Seeing Sukuna and Gojo together, must be my lucky day š„¹š«°š»

I just got hit with the age verification thing, Iām in Australia so I was expecting it. Iām like autistic as well and 18 next yearā¦I was flagged, I use this as a coping mechanism and that. Anyone know anything to substitute it with?
Hello
As kindly as I can say, read fanfics to substitute cai.
y'all are NOT getting flagged because you're autistic š
I just got the same bitlife ad 5 times in a row.
Or make ig... idk
Yeah, they also said that they'll be an adult next year so they have to wait until they can prove that they're an adult. Doesn't work otherwise, but that's not my problem 
Wouldnāt say make bc you donāt want to get hit with the fanfic writer curse 
True lol
As an autistic adult, I do not agree with you kids saying "its cuz I'm autistic".
I've had some of the most gut wrenching, deep, meaningful roleplays and discussions with the bots.
I didn't just go "ha ha ha you stoopid, be my hubby"
I mean. They said it themselves, they're a minor, that's why they got flagged lol
And the replies I see people with the bots are soā¦sad
just a one liner of ā[name] runs away and criesā and they expect anything good out of the bot š
I'd understand if someone said that, due to autistic people generally looking...LOOKING younger that the face scan didn't work.
But writing is not something you blame autism for lol
What???
Ive seen this yeah...
Why did my app just get 50% less bright šš I'm trying to read gangš¤£
My normal replies are usually 2-3 smaller paragraphs of text+speech
You can change that in accessibility by toggling the contrasts
Thanks, I was confused because it changed mid chat š¤£
Minors who get hissy about the age verification are bc they donāt use cai in a developmental way and are too stuck being coddled with a fictional character all for the sake of ācomfort/copingā (hot take)



