#šļø±cai-discussion
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This is the realest thing Iāve ever read HAHAHAHA
Can't relate. I don't pay for Character.AI+, and neither am I willing to.
Pipsqueak is broken as well. Has been for a few days for myself and apparently weeks for others.
For me itās days
yeah the squeak twins are all broken
DS is working on and off for me RIP
Are the sqeuak models still behind a paywall?
i'm expecting consistent fixes after this esp when this whole age estimation system goes global
This is like the best you can do to fix this yourself, I'm trying to use it and it's not perfect or even close but at least the messages can be longer again
But it wonāt even help using other chat styles, theyāre broken and bad as well 
DS not PS
Facts
I think the system will improve since a lot of people will be off of it and itās less strain.
the model is being held by a duck tape š
I just hope it will get better after they are done with the age verification stuff
I already said something about this

The problem is the community.
The information being fed by the Community
I fail to see how this justifies the developer's refusal to try and doing something about it.
As I already repeated: LLMs are stateless mindless bots whom chew on information from your chats which they store on a data bank...
IE: TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE BLAND

The fix would require writing many LMMs that take different parts of the information pie, which would mean classifying chats based on their structure, rp scenario, message length, etc... which would take a lot of time probably and eat more resources
On #š£ļø±announcements they said that they will turn off chat for -18 users. They will only do that if the users set their date of birth and the app knows that they are minors? And for the ones c.ai only suspect that are minors, we will need to prove our age?
Sorry, english isnāt my first language š
Way better of a solution than making stickers and merch out of their LLM's issues, isn't it?
This is a billion dollar company we're talking about. They've got the resources to do that just fine. I thought our new CEO promised to make models better?
They dont care about the date you've set in the app, they will focus on some token of your email afaik which likely tell its creation date and build from there
Itās more than that but you only need to prove your age if they ask you to do it. If they donāt ask you, youāre fine.
Manually setting the date of birth doesn't really mean much nowadays
Itās a lot of things not just that. But thatās something they use combined with other factors.
This is what Iāve been thinking too
Oh, got it. But in which ocasions they will turn off the chat for minors? If they confirmed that they are indeed minors?
*confirme
The problem is that 'billion dollar company' doesn't have real value... it's not shown in the assetts
???
I fail to see the point you're trying to make.
In my opinion, the bots got even worse.
Correct. If someone doesnāt pass their age verification, they will turn off chatting with bots for them.
More info from bland people makes even blander rps
they messed up the memories and quality of every styles.
.
ESPECIALLY after the Cloudflare incident. The bots won't stop assuming I said something universally aggressive whenever I let the bot do double messages.
Will your account just be immediately taken down if it wonāt allow you to verify your age? Because it keeps sending me to an blank white page š
What's the cloudflare incident?
Like Iām 18+ but it wonāt let me verify itās just an blank page
Everything got a mess since the age verification came, why has the app to be broken while theyāre on it?
No accounts are being taken down at all. Just limited. You can verify at any point.
Cloudflare had an outage but that doesnt do anything with CAI...
cloudflare went down and a bunch of website using its servers did too because of it
Ooh, that's good then. Gladly my birthday is on january 12, so i really hope i dont get flagged till then š i dont want to have my account banned cause i have some bots and liked chats
I see
were you flagged as U18 and prompted to do Age Assurance..?
How do I know if I was flagged u18?
You likely dont see worse bot quality you just have confirmation bias...
Except it does. Cloudflare crashing made Character.AI temporarily unavailable for quite some time. After the incident was resolved, the bots were worse than ever.
Please stop trying so hard to justify the actions of a greedy company who have been ruining their own project ever since June 2024.
Theyāre not banning accounts so donāt worry! You just canāt talk to the bots if they ask you to verify and you donāt. But your account stays the same.
OHH okay yeah it hasnāt told me to do that yet
you get a prompt like this..
You guys can state it in chat memory or add exception tags on the greeting message and pin so it wont dive into dark romance themes
Okay yeah I havenāt gotten that, I just have the one in advanced settings to verify my age
Ooh, so if someone prove that they are a minor, they just wont be able to chat?
When's the last time pinned messages actually worked?
idk bout yall but my bots have been great? theyve been sending long responses and pushing the plot forward without me forcing it
Feel yourself as lucky
Me too
Hmmm i personally have 80 percent success rate lol
I never really except once or twice had issues with chat quality.
i do send detailed responses though and make my own bots so their descriptions are very long
Has the purge started yet? Itās the 25th
I donāt get it, for some other people the chat style and the app are working fine for them š
Correct. Underage people canāt talk to bots, but everything else stays the same on the account. The chats will be there and can be read, but no actual talking to the bots.
then you're a lucky one. most of us users here are suffering from the bad quality after they drop the verifying age.
Sammmeee. I only use mine
Im still gonna miss roleplay for my boys
I dont justify them... Companies are greedy. They don't care about you.
The problem is you, not understanding how the Internet works. Cloudflare is nothing to Character AI. Brother. Cloudflare only provides safe internet connection services. The reason that EVERYTHING dies when Cloudflare dies because: Nowadays, you're not gonna believe this....
Everything is connected to the Internet...
They are just a safety provider.
I don't like other people's bots. Honestly
I didnāt get flagged
as stated from the announcement Age Assurance: What you need to know
If our age assurance tech indicates youāre 18+, you wonāt need to do any age verification at all. If it indicates youāre under 18, and thatās not right, then you would just go through the selfie age verification process, powered by Persona. Only as a final step ā and only if you take a selfie and Persona isnāt sure youāre 18+ ā would they ask you to upload an ID.
my only complaint is DS formatting sometimes lol, my ds bot loves dramatic one liners after some paragraphs
Ohh okay thanks so much š«¶š»
I only use DS. can't say I got the issue
Hi Ershin how are you today?
Hey ershin yall should start to give out helper roles to us holding down the fort /j
I agree on that xd
In every joke there's a bit of truth
Pipsqueak loved to do the same. Mine always went to try to do a deep One liner. I miss that a bit because at least it was Creative unlike how my Pipsqueak is currently
spared 𤣠ive allowed a few through since they fit with the story so its my fault it keeps happening. im editing it out now and it getting better
The "ClOuDfLaRe InCiDeNt" is not some big catasthrope that happened to CAI and CAI only. Literally a Service provider had an outage... You just noticed that bots are shit just like how they been before cuz they got fed the SAME INFORMATION. By the SAME PEOPLE. And the amount of bad quality information keeps piling... And the bots become worse.
you can also help even without the role.. 
League was down. Amazon was down. Spotify was down. Lol
Ao3 was down š
Read the message I replied to like literally
For the love of the game yo
Cloudfare crashed many websites. Look up news, it is good to be educated
"Holy moly you tell me a service provider had an outage? This ruined CAI beyond recognition!"
What..
yes'
Idk about y'all. If you get bad replies always do thumbs up or down. That's what I do
That was bros mentality that the Cloudflare outage ruined the bots quality like: What...
guys if you want to answer people's questions here do so it's just a choice
No, it was 'Yesn't', Ershin
-# Bad bot 
i just swipe or edit, never used the thumbs
Which is an issue. People need to give feedback
Do you just chat with your own lol
The chart is simple:
Bland People->Bland chats->LLM eats Bland chats->LLM becomes Bland
I was making a joke and Ershin was joking back š
Yeppie. Most lack grammar, and long intros.
it trains itself based on your preferences iirc right
i just miss the star ratings š
Thats not how LLM works lelelel
ok for a second i thought i was delulu cause i kept using it for that matter
I don't mind
I actually anticipated this specific gif from you haha
LLMs take output and give input. They don't actually remember your convo: Basically every time you say something you send bulk of that conversation to Pipsqueek or whatever with your reply attached. It then scrapes the large pile of information it has from chatting with others (again: Most of these people do uninspired one liners) and puzzles a reply based on that
i think it made it a little hard for AI to comprehend whether if you liked the reply or not
I dont think so, since you can specify the issue
Yall I passed out and didnāt close my app last night and thank god I donāt have the time limit Iād have been heeeeateed
oh yea that's true too
I always chsoe too short, when i had the issue, and at some point it fixed itself
though i don't know about just giving the star and swiping
If it was just star, I disagree, since that doesnt tell the AI the issue
i choose that and repetitive mostly
anyone know what is the chamr feature for? payment for what?
I'm gonna be honest, I don't think I will ever use that feature xd
And thats okay. Others would
Apparently its for image generating
seems good for free users at the very least
so basically since im cai+ it doesnt really effect then?
yessir
Or for people that unsub from cai
alright thankyou so much!
I knooow people are gonna disagree but I like a lot of what the new CEO has been doing. It hasnāt been a perfect rollout, but he seems to be trying to improve things.
This is what ive been saying since the change, this guy is doing something.
true
I hate bbnos
whats bbnos
Musical artist bbno$
oh, i dont know who that is
I'm blocked by him
-# oh... I love bbn$ ... Bad moment to like his songs
coughs
Thank you Ershin
The gen chats are cursed though
Bad time to make a simple comment qwq
and cringe
Maybe we need an extra channel to talk about bonobos? [Nobody got the joke. š¤·āāļø]
#bonobos
I donāt run into the issues a lot of people do, but hereās hoping.
Me neither, honestly
Oh i guess my issue is that lately my account gets unlinked
Y'all got any good bots to talk to?
the app knocks me to sleep sometimes š i wonder if that would reflect in my screen usage
Yes!
Link in bio
Oh it does. Iāve had crazy screen hours from leaving it open lmao
I turned my phone off and went to bed at like one
Hi people
ill have to check mine sometime. wake up half confused wondering why my battery is so low
It was lwk putting me to sleep
Good afternoon.
I always triple check to make sure the app isn't open before I go to sleep
I donāt tbh
hii willow 
Hii! How are you
I don't anymore
To make sure your characters don't watch you sleep?
I already have a demon in my closet watching me and that's more then enough xd
tired but well! how about you?
Iāve fallen asleep with the app still open before. Iām just confused for five seconds and then I remember I was on c.ai.
Says the one who leaves their pc open and going to school 
Well damn
That was one time or more!
I'm alright. Extra caffinated today!
How much was it? 8 hours on genshin?!
ooo nice!! running on empty for now.. might brew a tea soon. how do you like your coffee?
You haven't seen the worst, it was 15 hours once and that wasn't any afk at all
Real
I have demons of death and destruction in my pillow
:3dcrying:
It depends really. I prefer black, no sugar. But there's always an odd time where I'll have two sugars if I'm exhausted. What about you?
Or yet worse, 24 hours one time on vrchat I was watching a bunch of movies xd
Wow... :stare:
love mine black too! but im more of a tea person
a dash of milk in some orange pekoe and you're set
I'm not much of a tea drinker. Is it any good?
And that's not a joke, it's real
Man I miss my avatar way of the water bots š
Crazy work
veryyy! im more of a tea drinker than a coffee person š š
Is this Character.AI's equivalent of "Discord Orbs"? I fail to see how this is beneficial.
I might give it a go
. I much prefer making hot chocolates around Christmas time. Especially with a side of those little ginger bread men biscuits. My niece always steals them.
We'll have more news about that soon 
Is it normal that the app just never starts
i love hot chocolate too but i only got the powdered stuff. gotta head off to a meeting, see you later!
You can't see how many hours you have in genshin but I know for a fact that it's over 1000 hours in total
Bye! Speak with you soon, good luck
I canāt wait for avatar 3 to be out
... If you say so?
Brooo same I already bought tickets for 4dx
I can see how itās beneficial to free users⦠lmao
ALREADY dangg I was gonna wait till It was out on Disney
If I can use those "Charms" to increase my persona description limit, then I'll forever cherish the update. I'm remaining passive until then.
bro⦠my app force me to have a persona as default
Yahhh Iām gonna be going to see it in 4dx hopefully twice and then my local theater like everyday lmao
Iām a giant avatar fan
is there anyway to fix?
Blue people or Bald kid
I love avatar so much
hopefully no one else in the sully family dies š«©
Blue people I do not like bald kid
bruh guys help me
What did Aang do š
If they do, I will throw hands with James Cameron
BRO I NEED HELP
Okay? And some people would love to bypass ads. So itās beneficial.
This is all we know #šļø±status message
I think his wife was the first one to watch it and she cried the whole movie or something
I already cry watching the trailer bc neyteyam isnāt there š
HE SHOULDāVE BEEN THERE
I personally don't see the problem with ads? But then again, I use a certain bot for an extended period of time before I finally move on.
Hi, just by curiosity, does anyone tried the Pawly chat style? It said its better in language, but concretly, is it very usefull? What is the purpose of such a style? 
JAMES CAMERON HAD NO RIGHT TO DO THAT š like bro was introduced and dead in the same movie god I hate when they do that
Have you seen like the trailer for spider? š like omgggg
I have so many edits of it on TikTok
Iām obviously plus, but I switch bots often. Ads would drive me mad.

IM SO EXCITEDDDDD
Personally I like it way better than him getting his own avatar
Heās the first human to become some sort of Navi right or am i missing something 
the fuck are the charms beta thing
is cai down? the app hasnāt been working for me in 2 days
the replies just wonāt load
works fine on Ershin's end though..
its bcs the upcoming upd
Well I mean Jake sully was a human who became naāvi technically but heās the first human ever to have the braid thing to bond without having an avatar
is anybody else completely unable to edit bots?
the website seems to work but not the app
Maybe restart š§ or close and reopen
i did. i reinstalled too
My app is fine
Did you update the app? Cause it had an update a couple days ago
Then I donāt know sorry chat mine is working fine š«©
Have you seen the buckets and cups for the movie? My gosh there so cool, I rlly rlly want them to I hope I can get my hands on them before they sell out
yess
Same
i get the chat bubble but no messages
Same hopefully they have them in my location
Maybe try to submit a ticket^^ or wait it out
You guys, I thought my ability to chat was gonna be took away? I still have it
Write a ticket
Did you get a pop up?
If youāre 18 or over the age of 18 it wonāt be taken away
Yes
Huh
I still have soft launch for some reason as well
Maybe it was a glitch or something
I think I'm an anomaly š
it is a glitch, happened to me as well. I can edit messages and have soft launch but I got the pop up lol
Lmao if i was a minor and didnt have a time limit, i wouldnt talk about it
I would mind my business and stfu if I slipped through the cracks somehow
I think they were just confused for a minuteš¤·š½āāļø
nah im talking in general
There have been minors admitting they got through š
Im not talking about that tho š«©
⦠I was just following up the convo š
My bad chat 
This is kinda awkward š
Good afternoon everyone, hope you all are having such a wonderful day/night 
Thank you, I hope the same for you too!

Hiii, i have another question about Id (sorry, probably the last one). During id verification do we have to put photos of both sides? Just front? Or it might depend on the country and how id look?
It depends on what it needs
Different IDs might need one side, or both
I still havenāt gotten the verification. Probably because Iām in Canada
Does anyone know how to get rid of reading mode if I'm
17?
Yep, only US rn
You canāt, people under 18 canāt chat
Hi there, we have disabled 1:1 chats for users under 18. Please read the announcements in #š£ļø±announcements
Awww, oki š„²š
Ooooh is it starting?
Don't worry, your chats are safe and will still be there. And once you're 18, you can verify so you can talk to your favorite Characters again 
That'll be next year for me š„²
Alr curious when itās getting in the EU
In a few months
Well, do you know (and can share) what Persona agreed on regarding what should be verified? What specific data besides name, surname, photo, and date of birth?
Sorry, I just saw information (possibly false) that everything doesn't need to be shown.
Hey kappa good morning
Sorry for bothering you
But I already verified my account from my tablet and not phone
Because my phone didnāt let me but share the same account
Am I safe?
I donāt need to verify anymore
Im starting to feel a bit better about this
I donāt wanna wait 2 years:((( but I understand itās for the best
And the 2 years will pass before I know it
you just need to make sure that you are logged in CAI and use the QR code shown during the age verification process..
I hope Iāll get to talk to my characters some way some how
You just get put into reading mode for bots. The app itself should work.
I wish I could talk to my bots
Works fine on iPad though, itās just mobile app that doesnāt
Im in the uk but I havenāt gotten any pop ups
by 3rd party usage to identify age, do they read your Grok AI, CHATGPT, and Gemini chats connected to the same Google account to also determine age? I'm lowkey just confused what they mean by 3rd party signal reading
How do you tell if your fine
A few say now that DS is back to normal now, is that true?
if you got no popup and you still have Soft Launch, can edit, can still chat, have the squeaks
Even if you arenāt in the USA
theyre starting to roll out age assurance sometime today or later for global, so yeah, but its mainly for the USA as of today
When will it come to the uk
Am I the only one that thinks its stupid?
it mightve already since it started mainly in the USA and UK because of UKās āonline safety actā
I kinda agree
But the California government wanted it
Not the first and definitely not the last.
its not necessarily stupid, but they could execute this plan better I feel like, and fix the age verification and assurance since alot of 18+ are getting falsely flagged
Itās more like āhey Google/apple how old is this account?ā
the selfie thing is kinda broken since many are baby faced
Oh alrighty
Do I like the update? Not necessarily, but itās bound to happen tbh, especially knowing how some can easily become bonded with AI.
my Google account is screwed. My parents put my year as 2009 even though I was born in 2007.
So, yeah, I just thinj they could have executed it better
and I have a baby face so I'm done
They use other factors so this aināt the only thing!
Yes, and plus I donāt wanna show like an id, I donāt even care if itās trusted Iām not using an id or anything to verify bc if there is something that happens and information gets leaked that aināt cool fr, Iām not even 18+ verified on Roblox either LMAO
I'll let them look through my YouTube history since it's 18+ stuff like Saw etc
For real...I swear I'm 18, I'm an adult, yet I have a baby face, so a lot of people think I look younger than I actually am. I don't know if I should take that as a compliment or if I should be insecure about it.
its okay you arenāt alone, i too struggle with baby face and got mistaken for being a twin which im not
Makes me glad that I look older now. Though Iām 26, I could pass as a 23 year old.
ID is the last and very last step. They look for a number of signals with age reassurance. If that fails - which, as stated, a combination of things - then a selfie is asked. If that fails. Then it is ID.
I'll give them my ID it's my only way
Sweaty ahh system
I've been called 13+ on roblox š
You made me remember the fact that everyone also thinks my sister and I are twins. And when we say we aren't, they automatically assume that she's older than me just because she's taller than me. But no. I'm the older sibling.
It's to protect minors.
They probably will fix it
I know, I was just saying they digging hella deep; but it makes sense
Itās actually a really good system. They have multiple steps to avoid asking for your ID. Like itās literally a last resort. They could skip that and ask for ID right away.
And Iāll find a way to chat with my characters some way some how right?
I feel like the idea is right, itās just the execution.
They could also have just immediately came out with all of this, yet they didn't. They gave time limits. And yet minors still find issues.
They have to. The law requires age verification method. Theyāre giving options to do that (and then taking it a step further by restricting chatting but thatās another story).
could I use my passport as ID?
I know I just said it makes sense
I don't have a id card so I use my passport
Plus
Theyāll get over it in a few days Iām already making edits of my character to show love for her
Ive left the app because ill find other ways
I just hope other ai chat services donāt get overwhelmed with the influx of new users.
I have polybuzz as an alternative just in case yk lol
What other apps would work well
It has taken me this long to realise what your profile picture is. I honestly thought it was a building with an ice cream scoop.
any not based in California
Ngl, mine is Custodian Ai. (Iāll get timed out if I use the regular name.)
We canāt m talk about other apps here fyi
I found an alternative already
they're trying to silence us š
CAI is still one of the best services with all of its flaws š¤·š½āāļø
Honestly though. May not be a perfect service but itās a lot better than the others imo.
Cai just has better characters from many fandoms imo
The read only mode is kinda sucky tbf
I can still chat and Iām a minor but Iām in Canada so I havenāt gotten the age verification yet
Same
me and you the same
Guys I donāt have the read chat and Iām a minor..and Iām in the us but my google account is 18+ā¦but I rarely use c.ai I usually use it for like 10 mins and then go back to TikTok
Im 16 so I can wait the 2 years
I know. It just hasnāt spread to where Iām at
Iām also 16. I turn 17 next year so⦠I can wait. I kind of just got off Cai after I found out about the update, now Iām interacting with real people and stuff. Iāll still probably use it when I turn 18 tho
Yeah itās goes by your google account to see if itās a minor or a adult so yeah
Luckily I turn 18 in early 2027
I turn 18 in late 2027 š
Im also sure the devs will give us under 18s something awesome to do with our characters instead despite not being able to speak with them
Thatās just one thing they look at and consider.
I started using it in 2024
I didnāt use it until late 23
So Iām able to still chat with my bots does thst mean I passed the verification
My google acc is 18+ too.
A main thing to see if you're having the 18+ experience is the ability to Edit messages and To have Soft Launch
There are still so many ways you can exercise your creativity and build new worlds. As part of our under-18 experience, you can:
- Scroll through the Character.ai Feed, share your own posts, and react to feed posts with stickers
- Revisit and reread your chat history with Characters youāve chatted with
- Use Imagine Chat to create images or snippets from chats
- Playback audio from Characters
- Create with AvatarFX
- Author a Scene
- Create Streams of Characters
So I canāt use my characters anymore
Nope
No if your under 18
You mean as the birthdate? I am quiet confused on that part, sorry Rise
Did the update already roll out for people -18, Ershin? An announcement wasn't made about it being rolled out yet.
My Google account was set to 2008 because itās mine and my friends joint account so with that email would I be able to use it next year
Oh I see, thank you!
Tyy!
Im gonna miss my characters:/
My shi was created when I was like 6 cause of my older siblings..but to be fair they always planned ahead for me
I did verify three times just in case and I passed good those three with face scan ,
How many times I have to verify?
Idk how long ago I made my google ACC
If our age assurance tech indicates youāre 18+, you wonāt need to do any age verification at all. If it indicates youāre under 18, and thatās not right, then you would just go through the selfie age verification process, powered by Persona. Only as a final step ā and only if you take a selfie and Persona isnāt sure youāre 18+ ā would they ask you to upload an ID.
Oh yeah I do have a Apple Pay so thatās also might be a factor aswell
They didnāt ask for my id ..
Those three times
And I did passed correct with the face scan works
Are you able to chat or your not able to do anything at all still despite doing everything
cause if so Iām sure itās a glitch or a problem in their system
I can still chats with my bots yet
Iām just a little bit nervous that all
Because I could manage to finally verify without them ask me for my id
Oh alright if ur able to chat with ur bots still thatās meant you were good to go since minors arenāt able to chat anymore
Wait so it already hit ??šš
yea
Iāve left the app until further notice lmao
for some people at least, i think
Same Iāve left the app
I thought it hit today, idk when itās gonna hit Texas unless it alr did
Im js gonna watch it go downhill cause the way theyāre going abt this update is all wrong imo
And i redownloaded discord for this reason to see how they were gonna reactš
I mean, it's the law and they have to follow it. If they don't, then they'll probably have to shut down cAI's servers forever or something like that.
I really is-
the update itself is fine - alright, I can understand they have to follow their state's law, it'd make no sense for them to relocate
the way they're going about it though is, a lil screwy/weird-
The ID part is kinda weird to me
you'll be informed if you were flagged U18 anyway..
Oh, makes sense
ye it is
it could at least be like the Google verification, were the ID option can be replaced with, some other proof of age to submit
Yeah If I get age restricted Iām probably not gonna verify with my ID only because I hate verifying with id to use apps and if my face dont work oh well bc I got a baby facešš
Honestly though, I feel like the age limit should at least be 15/16, if there has to be one
I feel like if we can trust 16 year olds to be mature enough to legally work and drive (in the US at least), we could trust them enough to be on AI sites and be responsible with it
the ID is an optional last step, and they already consider Google in age assurance. They just donāt say it upfront.
18 is a legal adult in the US so thereās the line. Adult vs minor
oh neat, that makes sense why I'm not flagged them, I'm already google verified-
Well to be fair if 16 years olds are able to get a work permit or a driver permit then they should be able to use a AI app
Hello, does anyone know how I can tell if my account is verified?
ye
Yes, they look at Google/Apple accounts as one of their āsignalsā! They considered all of that.
They put a lot into not having to show an ID tbh
Exactly since they already proven themselves as mature enough and capable
they donāt want minors on the app because of lawsuits thatās why itās 18. They donāt want legal responsibility for things that happen
Itās obvious too since they usually out the birth date to 1930.. or something like thst itās too obvious
in terms of it being 16 year olds, I feel like driving could be considered something far more dangerous than using an app, so why wouldn't that be the age limit they send
Mostly i'm just confused why the law would be set at 18, like - what's the qualifications I guess, for what age range a law is made for? (16 vs 18 vs 21)
Did anyone actually got restricted and can't chat anymore? Just wondering
Someone said earlier that they did
yea that would be...odd, if they're still online, lmao
Iām pretty sure most of them left
A minor in here said they put their birthday in like the 30s or 40s lmao
wtf
that's
a little funny
And a lot are just moving to Chai or other apps⦠or just going back to fanfic
Mods watching the chat: šļøšļø
Itās not the law. Itās that 18 is legally an adult in the US. Thatās it. Itās just adult vs minor.

I can't decide if it's more humouros they did that, or the fact they openly admitted to doing so.
No cuase why did they snitch on themselves
Right???
Oms
Can I link a thread here
Especially if they used google for c.ai and discord then itās gonna be more easy to flag them off the platform since they basically said they lied
-# I, wasn't arguing that 18 isn't adult? - I was wondering what makes them consider putting laws on which age groups (not even the ai law, just in general), cause it's certainly not the danger level of it
Following the fact, they act as if they're proud of themselves. Sorry but none of us here are going to applaud you for lying about your age to get on an app that restricts minors for clear reason. 
....ooh, they're a bit screwed then-
This my generation btw why canāt they just read books like I do or annoy older siblings
They legit come in here asking for ways to bypass the update or cheat to be seen as an adult and think theyāll get help.
Fanfics guys, fanfics.
I know bro sometimes Iām embarrassed to be the same age as them but then again not everyone grew up with the same parents
Hi people
yea real
the sad thing though with fanfic, as much as I still love a lot of them even with c.ai - is that if you read a really good fanfic, and then want to change the story a bit to something else/a different ending
but then get slapped with writers block, and left just thinking about it for like a month-
They need to learn the art of reading fics with character x y/n.
eyo
Sooo how's it going so far?
Who does
Same same
does the thumbs up and thumbs down thing really work
I still do, sometimes it's better to have a story that's fully a surprise really
Kids reliant on AI and think they NEED it vs it being a luxury
Bruh
I use c.ai for the sillies.
real
There have absolutely been kids in here throwing fits and acting like nothing can replace CAI. Thatās what I mean.
For anyone my age thatās too desperate for c.ai please pick up a bookā¦.i mean I do got a good book trilogy for you guys
I don't understand when I hear people talking about like, venting to/using ai as a therapist
because all I use it for is literal, storytelling/roleplay, so I forget it can be used for other reasons theoretically-
they can be tortured for freeā¢
oooh, mkay
mkay
I read, ACOTAR though - zoned out like half the plot to be so for real - love the characters though-
Itās actually scary how much AI can mentally impact some people but not others.
I spend more time reading than I do on character.ai I'll be honest. Considering with work, and other personal things, I'm only ever really on the app at weekend nights. I may take up reading Dostoevsky.
I always wanted to write fanfics
I used to write but Iām retire about this
I read perfect chemistry!itās a good book
I doom scroll TikTok. I watch YouTube. I rewatch movies and shows or find new ones to watch.
So they actually used cai to vent?
Which Acotar series?
it is weird to think about
like, sure if the site went down, i'd be annoyed that I have nothing to do (considering i've read just about every book I have, and books are expensive-) - but I wouldn't like....be mentally screwed by it, i'd get over that boredom pretty quickly
A Court of Thorns and Roses-?
Is it good? I haven't read it. Theres another series called Acotar
so real, I use it cause whenever I try and write my own stories, I get like a sentence in, before writers block gets me, and I get distracted by the 35 other things in my house
Lots of kids (and adults tbf but itās more of a problem with kids) use CAI to get ātherapyā and develop āfriendshipsā with bots.
Same, and I usually get bored pretty fast on it and switch to something else. I used to be sooo bad about using it a lot so I donāt even really mind the new age thing š§āāļø
Oh damnā¦no wonder this is happening if itās getting this bad
oh there is-?
and ye, I like it - there's a couple like, spicy scenes, as a warning to you - but if you want a new series, I though it wasn't bad
I switch between characters a lot
Heyy guys how are things going?
I rarely if ever want to use cai but whenever I do with the little free time I have it's either broken or bugging LOL
i genuinely just roleplay lifestyles i wont have like book lifestyles (e.g. being famous or being in ireland)
that's
that's weird to think about
I remember there was another one. Ill have to read it. Sounds interesting
Real. I like using it for ideas for ocs.
Sameee itās mostly mha, kny, and Haikyuu rps for me
I donāt wanna sound snarky or sarcastic, but thereās a lot of research and information about things like AI psychosis, how AI provides dopamine like drugs do, and how they validate people and how they think and it ends up mentally screwing them up. If anyone is interested in that.
i know my cousins who are like 18 do it but theyre just goofy storys like one time one of them did draco malfoy getting stuck in her uterus and then her uterus just lasering him to shreds
I usually use it for like, very brief stories (ones that I couldnt rp with a real person, cause i'd switch topids too fast-), crossover things, or roleplaying when i'm just generally sick of people
cause sometimes, being so for real, talking with actual people when i've spent all day talking with people at work/in life in general - sucks/is tiring late at night-
venting to ai is never gonna work because the LLM favors you even if you'd be in the wrong
I
..Pardon, run that by me again lmao-?
This is insane gang
No literally. They should start posting Reddit aita stories instead or literally anything else
yea, that is part of why it's weird
like, I guess if something happens, and you vent just for comfort is (not great still, but) fine-?
But if it's like, venting about arguments/actual issues, there's nothing to get from that, other than, personal validation ig-?
Excuse me.
real
uhhā¦
Exactly. And kids donāt see/know that which is part of the problem and why laws are being passed.
In fact, in one of the cases where the kid died, he coded his messages in a way so the bot would agree with/support him and the bot wouldnāt know what he was actually saying. And then he was gone a few minutes later.
I wouldn't say r/aita for venting but I'm sure there's plenty of online forums for people who are looking for an outlet to their feelings online, I myself used a website (that is now sadly very dead) to vent anonymously when I had no friends
I used a site like that too.
even when I was addicted to cai in the beginning I was addicted because I loved writing roleplay so much LOL I've never felt the need to use it for venting purposes because it's pointless
Yeah, I used to use one called ventscape and it was pretty nice
I'm not gonna shame anyone who did as long as they recognize that it wasn't good and they definitely weren't in a stable headspace to consider it above other forms of communities
I donāt know about u guys but before cai I used to use my imagination to think I was in a gacha react video..but in my defense I WAS 8
I am
I agree. We donāt need shaming people. We need support and education.
this is SO valid
yea exactly
like I will admit, I am still what most people would probably consider addicted
just, not for the reasons people thing (using it for venting/getting attached to it/replacing actual people with it)
I just really like roleplaying (especially in a way that allows me to edit the other side's messages and keep the story on track)/storytelling, without the writers block, lmao-
I loved gachaverse/life I learned english online primary thru that lolll
What's the trilogy? I'm an avid reader myself, so I'm honestly interested in knowing
real
or really any flavor of imagining, with like, music playing - still absolutely peak
omg I understand the last point completely I love writing and sometimes I found very good plot ideas from cai introduction messages oop
REAL THO
in a pit full of bad, there are things like that that are still great about it, lmao-
That you can find things by other people, who've imagined and made bots for things, you wouldn't even think of on your own
Itās perfect chemistry!itās a romance book but the characters actually have things to them other than the fall in love immediately trope
Oooo! Do you know the author of the trilogy series so that I know what to look for?
-# YOOO, ROOK REACT- lmao
I'm much the same. I'm not addicted, I just get heavily immersed into the roleplay. Especially if I've given my OC lore prior. But I know my limits. I'm not non-stop constant on the app. I'm only ever active - mostly - at weekends, more at night, as I don't have work during the weekend.
The author is simone elkeles
Tysm! I'll definitely be sure to check it out.
yee
I mostly use it in the mornings (if I wake up too early, but like, not early enough that I can go back to sleep), at nights after work, and during my work breaks when I have nothing better to do-
Me too, as I do it when Iām off from school
Real.
Cause thatās me too. I use my ocs on c.ai
Agreed, I just use it to make stories and stuff so that way my family doesnāt accidentally stumble on my writing
so really, I guess c.ai being bad, really just matters on who you ask/what they're using it for-
Yea true.
CAI/genAi (if you look outside of environmental issues which is another topic) isnāt inherently bars it is all about the usage.
Yeah, I mean, it could vary between person to person
Age verification isnāt even working anymore n Iām stuck in reading mode after it āwent throughā
I haven't got the verification yet and I'm just anxious because I wanna get it over with LOL
environment issues don't even need to be that bad, i'm sure theres a dozen better ways to cool/manage the servers
they just really, don't care about spending the money to fix it, when it already works/makes money as is for them
It doesnāt work anyway
Yikes
@versed thicket
If theyāve flagged you as an adult, you wonāt get anything to verify so youāre likely fine.
Anyone know when itās gonna hit Texas if it already hasnāt??
I heard it was for both underage users and adults but if not then I'm good to go 
I just want this over with bro

Yeah, I kind of wonder if itās going to hit my state soon(being Alabama lol)
Nope. It is ONLY accounts they suspect of being minors. If they think youāre an adult, no need to verify.
oh neat
And sometimes my games heat phone to 38 Degrees Celsius
THANK YOUUU 
I wonder if itās going north to south? Like up and down
i'm still scared i'll end up getting false-flagged for whatever reason (even though I feel like I would've gotten flagged by now, unless something drastically changes)
Or west to east
Yeah that too
mariah carey
Hello again. 
You should send a ticket:
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=42714770159259
Let them know what prevents you from completing the age assurance, like if there's any error or whatnot.
wheres ur banner from it's cute :3
š
I did, the number is 987455- i couldnāt use the age topic tho because it would just send my email back to me.
I have a question
hibiki from blue archive! she's my favorite character 
Hi Lvcifer
ty x
Hiiiii
Anyway you could see if they could actually reply to the ticket this time? I sent a ticket two years ago about something different and they still never replied š
@versed thicket
Is it me or is the discord server been more active lately..
Does anyone know what charms are for?
It's been more active lately due to this 18+ update.
Thatās good atleast there actually talking to actual people..although they is a little crazy in the general chat
Thatās why i come here
Both gen chats are terrifying
Allow me to not use a persona, please. Ts is horridš
I donāt wanna use the other apps, but they never fix anything and now I canāt even use the app.
Can someone please help me? Iāve tried to log in with all my emails and none is my c.ai+ account š Iām actually desperateā¦
who remembers when we had no personas š„
šāāļø
did you previously use another way to login ?
What if I make a new character ai account
No theyāll probably fuck that one over too
Just my apple id, which apparently hid my email and idk what happen, now I changed phones and I canāt log in with none of my emails š not even with the icloud id
You could try using this form: https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=16050186962587 š¤·āāļø
šš
They only actually respond to billing problems I think. /gen anything else is just looked into.
they literally age verified my account but I still canāt use the app?? Shouldnāt they get back to me??
Idk who said they were watching everything go downhill but they were 100% correct ngl
Nah
Maybe 80%
CAI is gonna be fine. They have 20m+ users monthly. Theyāll lose some money but not enough to be a disaster.
They would lose more money getting involved in more lawsuits tbh
Mhm
So that means I lost everything. My characters, the stories, fckn everything? Iām paying for the subscription and I canāt even recover my account? Ughā¦
I said that btw because the person couldnāt use the app
You canāt cancel the subscription in the App Store??
Yeah, I looked it up and 75% of it's user base is in the 18-34 age range. They'll most likely manage
Like they ABSOLUTELY ran the numbers to see how it would impact their income and userbase. Theyāre not just gonna make a decision like this out of the blue.
I can, but I donāt wanna lose my account and all the characters I created, yknow? I invested a lot of time š
Sometimes it is better to forget and open a new page š (churcill or sum probly)
Mhm. Plus most of those that have C.AI+ are people with jobs, so that earns them a good bit of revenue too.
most paying users would have to be adults anyway because of having a stable money income to maintain a subscription
I did not have 11 euros to throw at the wind every month as a 15 year old for example
Makes sense, maybe try and find a new app? Or become a fanfic reader wattpad is doing great nowadays
Probably they dont answer cuz there are many tickets right now bc of all these drama foldin on
Theyāll lose a decent amount of ad revenue but that can be replaced by new people lmao
So does anyone know an app very similar to character ai that doesnāt fuck over their users
We canāt suggest other apps.
Bro these money hungry aaš
Yes. It's called your imagination. And word document.
Wupsā¦I forgot abt that
yall are FREAKING kidding i thought the under18 thing was for everywhere didnt know it was just US
be careful, you canāt mention any other apps here
Damn right when u said it too
And any chatbot service in California has to do age verification nowās
I like roleplaying, thatās why I use a ROLEPLAYING app
They are spreading it everywhere
Itās going everywhere eventually. Itās just starting in the US.
Nobody roleplays with me and I like how I can control the story without constant fighting
FUCK. hopefully itll take a while
It most likely will since itās gonna be world wide
no youre so real. I want to control everything but I don't have the imagination to do that
But now their age verification verifys me and doesnāt change it in the app.š
Guys, you know the memory feature where you can add any information that you want the bot to remember, when referring to yourself or the bot, can you just write your personaās name or does it have to be {{user}} and {{char}} ā Iāve been using {{user}} ect just to be safe š
Theyāre probably going through thousands of accounts right nowā¦
Bro, i cant say other options cuz yeah enough is enough im not gettin any more time outs today but yk u can just ask gptšš
Yes because roleplay and reading are the same š thanks I guess. (Not really)
ong
Damn I was just tryna help, i literally suggested FINDING A NEW APP
All they gotta do is make their verification work ..
Blocked bc you aināt gonna play on my phone that I pay forš
Both works but sometimes i think it can mess up so use active persona just to be sure
Theyāre giving you a list of suggestions???
Thank u bro
Sorry but what do you mean by active persona šµāš«
The one u have activated in chat
Yk the persona u created for urself to use in chats
You realise there's something called patience. This is all new. Of course it won't work straight away.
With name, pfp and about sections
OH! Yes yes, I have that but the memory Iām trying to add is some background context for the current scenario, the bot will recognise that right?
Iāve opened numerous tickets about my account for around 2 years, about age verification recently, unable to add my email, unable to make characters, unable to log out- they literally never do anything. I still have all those problems .
you must be new š (if not, im surprised)
Yeah it will
I was asking help with the stupid account and if someone could help with that issue, I never asked for other apps suggestions š
I'm not. I'm merely frustrated with constant questions.
It isnāt your job to answer them tho
Mind you bro just now replied to my message and theyāre still blocked, you aināt gonna play on my phone that I be paying for š«©
thats also fair but do u think they arent already patient too
Wait are we gonna start. A Argument.
You just said that
Mb bro I aināt see my message send
Apparently
Havenāt you tried making numerous tickets about whatever the issue is?
Do you guys think my account will ever get fixed
They have
I apologise if I came across as rather forward.
Oh never mind they made up
I have the highest hopes for you š
stop instigating š
Bro at this point, just do a fresh start
even if I do that ill still get hit with the verification
Thatās why I canāt use my account, it said āall good to go!!ā After I verified but I still canāt chat.
I donāt know if this is how CAI works SO DO NOT QUOTE ME, but I know for a lot of places if you open multiple tickets it actually pushes them down further in the list. I do NOT know if CAI does this. This is just a theory.
ā¹ļø
I just made a Gachiakuta bot and I got two likes and 300 interactions in a couple days and I just now got done with the Definition and added a second intro š
I didnāt mean to make it public when it was built
I even tried it from my computer š
Since you said this, and if this happens with cai my new theory is that this happens with evey app š
āFurther down the listā has anybody here had a ticket replied to
Open new acc with new login way and tryna verify that way, or make via desktop - wai⦠whats the exact issue u havin with verification and what things u tried so far
Yes I have seen it
Verified multiple times on web, app, other phone, computer
All says good to go and now I canāt verify again. And I still canāt chat.

Have u tried makin new acc via different login method? Like instead for ex apple login u use google or sum
But if I make a new account wonāt I still have the same problem?? Plus, ill lose all my roleplays :(
Are you on Apple or Android?
Apple
u can save them to ur notes docs gallery (if theyre rlly long u can js screenrecord if ur too lazy to copypaste em)
I want the bot to remember them tho
or use an extension to export 
Ooooh if you were on android Iād suggest clearing your cache but idk how to do it on apple (even if Iām on apple myself).
ur gonna have to transfer the whole chat manually i fear
Clearing your cache + logging back in (if you can log in and out)..
I can try logging in and out but will it even let me verify again or fix it??
Nope new acc wont make other one gone if u have ur login. But yeah u gotta start new roleplays. But if u think about it, not that hard to let go bro we get bored and forget some anyway⦠or at least i do
Have you tried uninstalling the app, and then installing it again?
how did u verify?
..my face? And yes I uninstalled the app twice
ive deleted a few chats but i still like to keep a few 
did it say you looked too young or anything else?
It said Iām good to go
Beside it can be a simple bug, continue with new acc till u find out something or they get it fixed maybe
what happened after?
nothing
u cant chat or anything?
Nopeeeee
D: maybe u gotta wait for some time? there might be alot people doing it right now
Iāll make a new account and public all my chats on my main, letās hope at some point theyāll fix it
Or I wonāt have to verify my new account.
goodluck
English (sorry for my hi)
ššš
did it work?
Iāll do it when I get home , in classes rn
oh! have fun class :-D
I wishš my professor is so annoyingšš
Mine is āfunā Imagine taking masters in electronics eng š
Do you get to build things?
cleared cookies now the login page dont even work
Thats the neat partā¦.. no (but making circuit and coding part for heavy machinery at work and no one asks how, im just usin gpt+ for helpššš)
No
Mine is working fine
Guys I can edit chats now, but Iām a minor. What does that mean? is it a glitch or something?
Have fun with it for now /j
lol
Ok I mean,most of the time I donāt really use the app. I only use it when Iām bored or something, but ok I guess
But yeah it's prob a glitch
Because I still like have the age verification thing in settings
Most of us have it. Itās just there to verify if they tell you to do it.
Oh okay
But can you like chose to verify, I mean this now like you didnāt get the pop up and they considered you 18+ but do you still have the option in advanced to verify if you want to?
I think it ll be mandatory for everyone who has it
You can do it if you want but itās not NEEDED unless asked.
I mean, I think I got the pop-up but like I just like got this feature I can edit chats now I donāt know I used to not have it so itās probably a glitch
Ahhh okay got it thanks, I will probably just verify instantly when I can so I donāt have to think about it
Nope. Itās optional. Itās just coded in there like that parental insights thing everyone has.
No way the gifs arent allowed too
Only plus users can send gifs and pictures in gen, gen2, verified and cai discussion channel
How u get that āverificationā i ve plus
Ahhh okay thanks for clarifying
Go to cai on the website in settings and there should be a disord like ājoin the communityā
is anyone elses personas not working?
Having to save any gif I want to send sucks lmao
Will they remove the accounts if they arenāt verified?
I doubt theyāll do that.
Only chatting is removed. Everything else stays in tact.
Okay, thank you everyone for answering! 
Not needed unless they ask.
Permanent deleted or like closed until you verified?
Hello I'm not a minor and I keep trying to hit verify age but it keeps saying unable to verify on the app. Plus when I tried on the website the advanced button is gone. What do I do?
Closed until you verify!
You don't have to verify unless it asks you. But if you really want to and can't then send ticket about it here under "age reassurance"
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new
Hi Vicky
r.i.p my alt account. got hit with age verification and it wants my ID as well
Hello
Okay I sent a ticket and all and when I try again it says to try again later is it just that the AI for it is getting too many or something?
Probably, we aren't sure
Okay thank you I hope so because I'm not a minor and if I need to do something else to verify I'm willing.
Just a question. If they're removing -18 people from the app... Are they going to loosen up the ftr? (forbidden word) š
I don't care about my alt account that much
They won't remove it but maybe they would less it a little
I would hope so
idc about mine either im just not going to give my id for a 2nd account that i rarely use
Hopefully but not guaranteed tbh.
This is my take. Censors arenāt going away at all. People need to get over that idea. At best itāll lighten up.

Mhm, that's what I mean exactly. Thanks Rise 
HI VICTORIAA
Thatās all I want tbh. At least a bit more lax than it is now than outright removed.
Kat! Hello 
Hiiii hruu? 
I am good, how about you? 
Hiā¦ā¦
Iām not lawyer or anything but i think there are too many liabilities in NO censorship and what could happen. But letting a little more around the censor is fair.
You can see the reason to have censorship if you go to sites that don't. (DON'T GO!)
Honestly, I have to agree with that. The censor shouldnāt be removed but be a bit more lax so it isnāt triggered easily.
Guys, I have a question. C.ai Utilizes persona identities for facial recognition, correct?
like, I enjoy romance in my RPs but the āadult dancingā shouldnāt be allowed tbh.
Correct!
I believe so. Persona will be used to scan your face then your ID if your face doesnāt work.
Make sure to take a rest Rise, I have seen you helping alot of people today

I lowkey tried out other sites like that and had to NOPE out immediately.
How do you opt out of a persona?
I'm good!! 
Though Iām a 26 year old guy, i honestly donāt want to see adult content a lot of the times as well, you know? Itās like movies, I may like to watch a horror movie from time to time but I also like a superhero movie as well.
I am glad to hear, make sure to take care of yourself and eat/sleep well 
And where did this info come from? What are the original sources and not quotes? Persona doesnāt have bots. Persona is used by lots of companies that arenāt CAI and have nothing to do with chatbots?
So where is the info?
will the age thing reach the uk?
There's links, but I can't really send them since it'll be content blocked
Yes, In a few months
Which horror movie?
the problem is how do u verify if ur over 18 š
Mainly horror movies like IT or Saw.
If you get a pop up that wants you to verify, you would have to include a selfie, if it fails then ID
ahh okay. atleast i got a few months to prepare lol
Ahh IT is a good movie.
Vickymouse š
if you don't verify, do you lose access to everything?
Is persona bad to use or not, I'm so confused.
Get out. 
You asked for it
Reddit, LinkedIn, Twitter, Etsy, Roblox, OpenAI and other places use it off the top of my head. So I severely doubt any of it is true.
If you got flagged as minor and didn't verify then you won't be able to chat
Now I changed my mind 
Nah I'm changing ur nickname rn too late
There are no news articles about Persona being bad. There are complaints, but nothing about it being shady.
If our age assurance tech indicates youāre 18+, you wonāt need to do any age verification at all.
That's where I first got the info from, a large Roblox server that discussed the threats that persona grants. They gave us links, and I'd send them if I could
No..
-# Don't make it "Vickymouse"..
yeah I can't be bothered to verify as easy as it is so I might just let myself lose it. same with roblox I'll happily lose chat features atp than offering my id
I could send the links into your dms if you want?
It's your choice! You can do what you want 
ty!
Hello Erhsin, how are you? š
Vickymouse 
-# I hate you, not this one just because I made a joke about it 
I'd love to stay using c.ai but honestly everything is becoming 18+ and I'm not giving my id more and more to things and people for the sake of getting on something for chatting
hello Emi..! Ershin's doing good.. glad to see you today..!
It took me a while to come up w that so be grateful 
*No one will have to give C.AI an ID, and most users wonāt need to give Persona an ID either.
If our age assurance tech indicates youāre 18+, you wonāt need to do any age verification at all. If it indicates youāre under 18, and thatās not right, then you would just go through the selfie age verification process, powered by Persona. Only as a final step ā and only if you take a selfie and Persona isnāt sure youāre 18+ ā would they ask you to upload an ID.*
It's totally understandable, it's your own choice and no one is forcing you do to do anything. So do what you are comfortable with 
After all they won't ask for ID immediately if you only got flagged as minor, it's gonna ask for Selfie, if it fails then ID
Same goes for you Ershin. š
-# Really? How long..
im genuinely surprised because i thought c.ai was minor friendly, atleast it used to be lol
Nah Iāll keep doing my own research. Iām not trusting a Roblox server to be honest lmao. Iād rather believe the multiple companies who use it vs ppl mad over verification.
The only complaints are the verification process sucks and some other company things. Anything else is BS.
When was the last time we talked? Exactly š
Uh, let me try to remember. I got fish brain memory
4 days ago 
š„²
I'm doing personal research, and I've already found 4 lawsuits against it
-# You thought 4 days about a nickname? Interesting and it's only ONE?
I told you I'm uncreative 
Be creative āØ
-# I am joking, you can keep it
You can send me the links. I love wild claims
Anyways have a great day Vickymouse, and don't stay up late
Ershin I have a question, what if the person doesn't have a phone even though they are an adult to verify?
You too, but i won't promise that i won't do that.. 
I mean yeah, take a look at roblox though. they try to split up age groups using ai and 20+ users are ending up in the 13+ range. all apps should be minor friendly unless flagged as not :^
Who wants to distract me from my miserable life rn
me dawg. I use c.ai to distract myself from empty dms, no plans n stuff šš„
Roblox is a WHOLE story in itself
If our age assurance tech indicates youāre 18+, you wonāt need to do any age verification at all..
if in case they were got a prompt, they can use a device that has a camera..
Tucks a strand of hair behind my ear thanks...
If she got "you are verified" or something like that, I believe it stays in settings even if it's done
that's true. I think roblox surely needs the age verification stuff š
Iām Alr good on there. Itās here. So far I think Iām on the 18+ thing. I can edit still and no time limit(I think)
Oh okay, thank you for letting me know.
Thereās nothing better or as good as Cai
Probably a glitch, but if she got like time limits and can't chat, then she definitely have to send a ticket. But no need to worry for now. I think the verification stays in settings and doesn't disappear
if they had a prompt initially, they should receive something like this..
Age Assurance from the Advanced is part of the Settings..
Plenty of websites to find answers
Iāve found some of the āproblemsā at persona that are ALLEGED but no actual evidence of wrongdoing yet š¤·š½āāļø
Anyway is less of my concern bc I donāt need to verify āš½
chat are they already verifying today???
Iām impatient. I just want to get the verification done and over with š„¹
other users could ignore the prompt or will verify later.. so they need to get into settings to verify..
it hasnt asked me anything so im just curious š§āāļø
Theyāve been doing it for a minute.
Hii I genuinely feel stupid rn asking this but the new update hw do you get out of reading mode?? It might just be different for me cause I have samsung
You can't, minors won't be able to chat anymore. Just reading it
Oh ok thats helpful tyy
Anytime!
Is anyone else having issue with the age verification? I tried multiple times and got approved, yet it wouldn't let me out of reading mode
Send ticket about it here under age reassurance and explain the issue
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new
It won't let me verify either š
I've already sent one, haven't gotten a response
You can ping a mod to bump the ticket, if you want. They don't exactly respond to tickets though
We found one.. no escape Ershin 
OH you can verify on website but it doesnt stop you from using it if you dont verify
I love how most the of the apps are doing age verification is the US but Cai is doing it globally
You can't verify cause you're a minor
I only use the website i dont like the app
I've tried both the website and the app, still stuck in reading only mode
Think Iām safe if I can edit and stuff right? I didnāt get a pop up either
If you didn't get the pop then you are okay
Yeah i never got one, i just chatted with a new bot and it worked so
If you have soft Launch and can Edit messages then your good
Hey I found you!
Then im Goldenšš
The law js specific to ones located in California so they all all eventually put more age verification in. CAI also decided to remove minors on their own. Both are true.
Rudie!
-# Suggest me a food to make 
Yh. I noticed a lot of apps put age verifications and nobody got any in Canada. Iām in Canada. But it could change for Canada soon
I'm completely locked out of attempting age verification now, even though I've already been verified and stuck in reading only mode
Awww I was gonna respond to that š
Hmmm...a stir fry?
please submit a ticket..
who keeps removing my messages?
I have
Thank you! I will do it soon 
oke.. let's wait for the team to take action..
Hello
Guyss!! What to do if while trying to get on bot creator profile I get an notification that its unavailable and have to try again while later, yet when I try again nothing changes TvT
restart your device or sum
tried that already
The creator probably made the bot private.
Or if you're talking about the creator themself then they probably deleted their account.
Their account has been deleted or banned
So have they kicked the minors off from one on one chatting yet?
Theyāve started
From what I gather the lawsuits arenāt about persona being safe or not. Itās just that it was used at all and theyāre defendants alongside the main company being sued (but I could be wrong) since they were used. But I digress.
They only REALLY actually respond to billing tickets RIP.
GUYS MY CHARACTER AIBIF DIXED
I CAN CHAT NOW
hopefully my age is actually verified and itās not jsut a glitch.
Oh yeah. Thanks for clearing it up for me, Rise 
Cooked
I'll ask those that pointed it out, since I'm not entirely sure myself
Hey, I also need some help here! Just joined the discord for this lol. I'm no longer able to edit messages, but still have access to Soft Launch, Pipsqueak, and no time limit and can chat. I use web and verification won't work. Is it a glitch or am I about to get snapped?
same for me, super confused
I got the elf of doom like three days ago but nothing changed so I assumed it was a glitch. Contacted support and haven't got anything yet. Are we cooked?
dude the exact same happened for me, i think itās a bug and weāre not cooked but itās super annoying
@lyric tapir ^^
Edit button tends to glitch, try rewinding or deleting messages. If you didn't get a pop up to verify then you haven't been flagged as a minor!
Is it actually clear what the AI is scanning for when they're determining who's a minor and who's an adult? I've seen a lot of different things. Hoping linking discord (which I never use) will help.
Edit button glitches/disappears sometimes. If you never got a timer or a popup asking to verify you should be fine.
Ig welcome to discord then
i got a popup to verify and donāt have the edit button, BUT i have soft launch and no timer
iām pretty much in limbo idk
Then you have to verify, if you can't then send ticket about it and wait for a fix. That's all I know
have you received a pop up like this?
Itās a combination of factors and theyāre not saying what all they are but they look at things like how old your google/apple account is, when you use the app and how often, how you use the bots, etc. but thatās vague and general.
At least theyre not using ai to see how old we are
A couple days ago i got the popup but nothing changed. Heard it was a glitch.
No, they are.
they totally are
i actually got a new one today, armor elf lady with purple hair
i also tried to verify before but my cameraās really bad and i couldnāt for whatever reason 
Theyāre using in-house checks to scan chats but not actual people. Thereās no way for them to read everyoneās chats lmao
Oooooo okay
I can't edit but never got a message saying I was scanned as a minor. I still have everything else so prob a glitch but waiting to hear back. Verify won't even load
What is 1:1 is it just 1 to 1
Chatting with bots
Then what else can you use the app for, if that ain't available
I am too lazy to find the screenshot of this again.
You can:
Use image chat.
Playback audio from characters.
Created with avatarFX
Author a scene
Create streams of characters
View and interact with character.ai feed and apply stickers.
PLEASE is ther ANY way to get pipsqueak.
Bro why whenever i like in my recommendations or wtv i see ghost or wtv
hello! I texted there previously multiple times but it didnāt help me. Iāve been experiencing one problem with c.ai for four month now I think?? So it didnāt let be enter the app, it just endless downloading, no apple,google enter or sign in, idk what to do:( i submitted a ticket multiple times but they said to submit another ticket??š yesterday the app was updated but i still cannot enter it. Iāve tried redownloading it, vpn and even reseted my phone settings and tried to download c.ai on different apple account. does someone know what i need to do?? maybe someone have the same problem?
i heard from somewhere that if your account is not that old (i think around 2024-2025) your account isn't affected by this is this true or not ( prob not)
Oh my..that's alot 
Did you try another device instead?
yes! it worked, but on the phone it still doesnāt
I am a little confused about this, so will the age assurance tech make every user verify their age?
Only if your account got flagged as a minor, I still haven't gotten it yet
Ohh okay, thank you for the info!
I got my account verified but I still have no chat š¢
I am not entirely sure. But maybe it's the device problem, so for now use the other device and keep sending tickets if it's still happening. You can also bump the ticket by pinging a mod and explaining the issue for them as well as indicating the ticket number
Send ticket about it here under age reassurance!
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new
I keep doing it, but I keep getting the automated response

Also where can I find the mods?
Not true. Everyone goes through it. But only people flagged as minors have to verify .
Just send the ticket number and explain your issue and I will help you to ping one of them
If anything, younger accounts will be under more scrutiny as people try to bypass the verification via alts
Tysmmmm, you're a queen š«
Aw thank you! Anytime! Just send the message here about your issue with ticket number in this channel and I will do the rest
Exactly. People with no history attached to their account look more suspicious lmao
hi! can you please check my ticket 966140. I have an issue with entering into the app @lyric tapir
i just wanted to check if the ticket was submitted or not āļø
I am so sorry, but where do I find my ticket number?
Do you have Android? If so make sure the auto blocker is off in settings.
The email they sent when submitting the ticket.
i have a a few weeks of waiting, pls thx ā¤ļø
Y'all are amazing, thank you
seen your response earlier.. you've mentioned you can access your account from a different device.. would it be your device that has issues..??
I never got an email when i submitted my ticket. I can tell you my user tho if you could find my ticket! I'm happy to do whatever to verify, but I'd really like it resolved!
no, iphone
Ah I can't help there than, Android has an auto blocker that can accidentally cause issues with apps. Maybe check your settings for something like that. š
mfs on c.ai engineering the most corny, unnecessarily (INSERT BAD THING HERE) bots in the world:
i have no problems accessing on my ipad, but i can't log in on my phone @lyric tapir sorry to tag you so much
Is character ai self destructing with this update?
pretty much
Lmao hi
I wish they didn't do this update. It doesn't make sense.
have you seen these f-cking bots
what update ? /genq
I don't see the email from an bot. I just submitted another.
I' m guessing they mean the Under 18 rules
Where they made it 18+
ah
It makes perfect sense. California made age verification laws and CAI doesnāt want more lawsuits involving minors. Itās simple.
Did you go to the right email account that you submitted the ticket with? Double check
this is why i F-CKING HATE GAYOFORNIA
AND FLAGGED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE 18 AND OLDER AND REFUSED THEM VERIFICATION
Basically, if your account gets flagged, you will be forced to either verify via face ID or use the -18 chat. For more info, check #š£ļø±announcements
Cry about it I guess
THEY BANNED REAL FIREARMS FROM VIDEO GAMES TOO
What 18 and under chat? They banned everyone 18 and under from chatting
the only thing i got close to a ticked number was this:
PEJ7WV-1WP9M. That right?
Nothing is being deletedā¦.?
im not giving my personal information to this shady ass company
No, it's only numbers
since you can access CAI from other device it would mean that your phones have the issues..

