💭︱cai-discussion

[fresh egret]

It betters your odds

[slim basin]

I realised I look older then 18 so I still can be on c.ai XD

[misty grove]

It's possible the image doesn't comply with their TOS. Try another image.

[timber canopy]

I add my birthday to 2007 oof

[hexed umbra]

well i dont think thats the case since they said that an AI software will be getting your age based by your interactions with the bots, and other third parties

[steep matrix]

Right

[formal tartan]

either that or c.ai is flopping again..

[quick kite]

Sometimes I think it just needs a better angle on the face or something, if it’s too close up or too zoomed out it won’t work

[crude obsidian]

it's just checking third parties it won't always assume you're over 18 cause of that

for example if the in-house model and your google account clashes between informations

[lapis jacinth]

what do you mean by third parties ?

sorry💔💔

[hasty slate]

A third copy and paste response from support 🥀✌️

[hexed umbra]

dont know it was on the article, but im guessing like, google and all

[lapis jacinth]

ohhh okay okay

[hot ridge]

first party would be from the company or person themselves, third party is outside of that

[misty grove]

Sometimes we gotta hit them with the 'real the announcements please'

[hexed umbra]

not copy and pasting, just saying what i read from the article

[pine oriole]

I'm just gonna wait until the 24th to try verifying again cause c.ai has a history of hating me atp 😭

[misty grove]

Because I guarantee people saw the notification, clicked it off and couldn't be assed to read it.

[hasty slate]

No I’ve just contacted support and they’re giving me the exact same copy and paste they’ve been sending back and forth

[misty grove]

Oh that sucks .n.

[hot ridge]

That's very normal for every company...

[crude obsidian]

DS is going on and off again
just forgot my name one message later and resorted to y/n

[hexed umbra]

well maybe thats what would happen, it isnt as complicated nor as simple as people make it to be, but we'll find out on the 24th

[misty grove]

Maybe you can DM a mod here? Kappa is usually active. Just ping him first that you're going to DM.

[formal tartan]

i hate when that happens like u js said my user's name how is ur memory worse than mine 😭

[hot ridge]

basically a forwarded email saying "we got your ticket" and another email with basic troubleshooting steps for issues you may or may not have... yeah. Corpo email response, they haven't actually read it

[misty grove]

If it's calling you y/n, that's just bad writing on the author's account.

[crude obsidian]

aw man into the hide profile you go..

[misty grove]

I don't understand why authors write like they're in A03 when you can list your name already...

[fresh egret]

Oop

[crude obsidian]

iirc most dialogues are being stolen from there too 😭

[misty grove]

Probably.

[hexed umbra]

in 3 days all roads will lead to rome

[misty grove]

If the author wanted to add the user's name into the intro, it would be {user} and not y/n

The coding would automatically change it to your account name or your chosen persona

[formal tartan]

i hate when they don't do that now i gotta edit every "you" into my user's name

[misty grove]

Yeah like who is you

[formal tartan]

fr

[steady moon]

Anyone knows what these" {} " brackets are used for

[formal tartan]

in c.ai or in general

[misty grove]

It's usually commands for the bots in their description

[steady moon]

Charector ai

[misty grove]

It's helpful for dialogue examples such as

{user}: hi
{char}: hi

User is the player character. Char is the bot.

[steady moon]

I have seen that some people use this in roleplay which is intense as the player hides explicit words in these brackets but why I don't know

[steady moon]

Pls tell about this too

[hexed umbra]

yikes

[misty grove]

Again, we shouldn't be talking about that material here.

But I've seen people use {} as actions in roleplay.

[steady moon]

No I mean bad words not those things u are thinking about

[misty grove]

Oh

[crude obsidian]

our inner monika

[steady moon]

Yes

[misty grove]

I might be missing a reference here, sorry

[steady moon]

😂

[steady moon]

Memory is not good in charector ai

[misty grove]

Yeah, sometimes you have to remind it. It depends on what style you use.

Pipsqueak is good for pure roleplay.

[steady moon]

Any way for greater memory

[misty grove]

You have to buy c.ai+ if you want more memory

[steady moon]

I have deep squeak

[steady moon]

I have cai+

[misty grove]

Oh you have the membership already then. Well, you can try DeepSqueak.

[steady moon]

Whats the difference between them

[misty grove]

Pipsqueak puts out shorter responses. But they're basically the same.

[crude obsidian]

deepsqueak on release made a ton shit of references and to the users past messages i actually miss that

[median token]

mine still does 😳

[steady moon]

Deepsqueak is good

[misty grove]

Mine still does that. It depends on who uses it, some people don't have a good experience with it. But it's been fine for me.

[steady moon]

What context u talking about

[fading iris]

when are they fixing this chat cutoff shit it's making me wanna chew thru my screen

[crude obsidian]

it still does but not as much as before i guess
heard it was cause DS was using ton of resources than intended to be

[misty grove]

We're talking about DeepSqueak's quality.

[lapis jacinth]

wait sorry i keep asking questions, but if i have the soft launch thing, you have to be 18+ to use it (?) Will i still have to verify?

[misty grove]

If you already have soft launch, you're already an 18+ account

[lapis jacinth]

just wanting to make sure cos i verified on my last account and it made me younger

[steady moon]

Deepsqueak is not bad at all

[lapis jacinth]

what will happen then?

[misty grove]

Then you're tagged as an adult and nothing will happen to you. You won't be restricted.

[steady moon]

Hey shuckle berry if ur account is already 18 + then no need to verify?

[misty grove]

Probably not. I only did it just in case.

[lapis jacinth]

okay thank you :).again, just wanting to make sure because my last account was set years younger than i am

[steady moon]

Thank u and sorry for asking explicit content questions

[crude obsidian]

off topic has it been doing alright nowadays?? i keep hearing DS repeats itself a few times but there's only small tweaks to the swiped message

[misty grove]

It's alright, just be mindful that children also reside in this server.

If you wouldn't show it to your siblings or mother, don't post it here.

[steady moon]

What u mean?

[misty grove]

Meaning if you are embarrassed to share it with your family, you probably shouldn't be posting that kind of stuff here.

[misty grove]

It's been fine for me but others have reported repeating issues.

[steady moon]

No I am not embarrassed I am fully grown I don't share with anyone

[crude obsidian]

mother look they told me if they could ask me a question!!

[misty grove]

Ask the question, be the bot

[crude obsidian]

DAMN this keyboard sucks

[peak vessel]

How do they verify age in the first place? Surely there are better options than showing your ID to ai?

[misty grove]

I've actually let the bot ask my persona a question and they got engaged because of it. It was so cute.

[crude obsidian]

i'm sometimes questioning whether if it's a fallback response or an actual question they wanna ask

[peak vessel]

Im gonna be honest dropping that in the character ai discord server just may not be the best place to share that

[misty grove]

I usually do test responses. If it doesn't work out and it's repetitive, then rewind.

[crude obsidian]

oh that's.. cute??

[lapis jacinth]

what !

why are you sharing that here

[crude obsidian]

adorbs xx

[misty grove]

I think that's something you should talk to someone about that you're close with. Not complete strangers on the internet.

[steady moon]

That's right I am not asking about opinion or something I am telling I really couldnt control it I am in that state of mind
I am sorry if I hurt u all

[misty grove]

It was kind of a sudden thing to share.

That didn't have anything to do with the topic at hand.

I hope you have a good support system and I offer my condolences.

[steady moon]

Thanks brother

[misty grove]

Np

[idle finch]

what did i enter to..

[leaden basin]

sorry to interrupt but i love ur ramattra pfp

[misty grove]

Aaahhh thank you

[peak vessel]

backtracking though, what are they using to verify age/genq

[leaden basin]

Also, i wanted to ask about the quality of PS, do the devs know about it? Like, how 90% of the replies are offtopic?

[median token]

Persona, a software used by a lot of big companies

[steady moon]

Because it's my mistake to share that info

[exotic bobcat]

I just saw the announcement from earlier yeah so how tf are they gonna know if I’m over 18 or not

[crude obsidian]

in-house model + some signs from third parties
age estimation too

[median token]

Leave the guy alone, he seems genuinely remorseful. He apologized already

[steady moon]

Don't target me man I am really not in that state of mind man

[misty grove]

Do you mean pipsqueak? sorry my brain is broken >.<

[peak vessel]

Correct me if I'm wrong but they're using ai to estimate age and stuff? I feel like this might be a disaster given that roblox is doing the same and half their 'age verified' users got estimated that they were 14 and not their actual age

[leaden basin]

Yep!!

[median token]

AI to flag under-18s with multiple signals then Persona (same thing used as Roblox, iirc). If their face ID is scanned incorectly, they can submit an ID to correct it

[misty grove]

I haven't used PipSqueak so I'm not the best person to ask but when I did test it, I did get some OOC responses.

[cursive wyvern]

Where can i even verify? Can I just use persona's site? Cuz I dont see it on app or site

[median token]

the mouse models do tend to give a lot of OOC messages, best to edit them out or swipe away

[hardy breach]

wait so abt the age thing

basically, if you didn't get flagged today/the past couple days, are you in the clear of getting falsely flagged now?

or are they gonna, keep flagging people-?

[misty grove]

Pipsqueak made my yandere Ramattra bot go uwu and cutesy.

[median token]

If you aren't flagged then you don't have to verify. It'll let you know if you do

[leaden basin]

Giggle

[peak vessel]

I think they flag everyone at first, but I could be wrong

[median token]

It's still ongoing, currently flagging US users only right now. They said they'll do continued flagging so even if you're safe now, you may be flagged in the future too

[cursive wyvern]

Its weird cuz I got the 2 hr limit which should mean Ive been flagged no? But im in UK

[misty grove]

I just did the verification early just in case. It's in advanced settings, if you have the update, it'll be there.

[median token]

Huh, then you might have been flagged. They said they were doing it in the US first, guess it hit some people globally?

[hardy breach]

aight

I got the popup twice, but none of the like, restraining things - is it just an announcement thing, or?

[median token]

If you don't have the limit then you aren't flagged

[cursive wyvern]

I did go to the US for a bit but this was after the announcement

[hardy breach]

oh i see

[median token]

Oh. Interesting. No idea then, you're the first one outside of the US who got flagged that I know of

[hardy breach]

neat thanks

there should really be like a, tab on your profile, that just says if you're flagged or not

fix the whole guessing game a lotta people have to do

[median token]

Just assume you're safe until you're hit with the limit or pop-up saying that you need to verify

[crude obsidian]

yup all of them are automated

[peak vessel]

shh don't point out anything they can fix they don't like that/j

[solid plover]

What even qualifies you to be flagged? I’m still confused in this remark. Like, was it said somewhere or

[hardy breach]

pft real

[cursive wyvern]

Should I be able to just use persona rn? Or will it just not work

[median token]

We’ll look at a number of signals, including login info, activity on the platform, and some signals from third parties. This is a standard way that companies do age assurance.

[hardy breach]

it's just, when the site/ai decides your account is under 18, and makes you verify

[median token]

Some people have the option in advanced settings, I don't. You can verify in advance if you really want to but you don't need to. There won't be any consequence if you don't. If you get flagged later down the road, you can just do it at that time

[hardy breach]

-# what makes it decide to flag though?

like, will it take in google age verification as well, if you're signing in throguh google?

[cursive wyvern]

Doesn't show up in advance

[peak vessel]

I find it a little odd that they're making the platform 18+ but they're not making anything ABOUT it 18+, do we know if they're adding anything or removing restrictions?

[hardy breach]

you might not have the update yet then

[solid plover]

Geez, that sucks. I don’t see what can be differentiated with activity between an adult and child through this unless it’s like, school hours. But adults have work hours that practically overlap.

[median token]

Probably, I saw someone get asked for permissions on age groups from CAI with Google. If you're age verified on Google, it'll take that into account + the other signals

[cursive wyvern]

Should I try using persona or since I didnt use it through c.ai it just wont work

[median token]

Then just assume you're fine for now, nothing you can do until it pops up for you

[hardy breach]

no clue

we should at least be able to have bettwe violence scenes with this

[median token]

They said no, lol. They are following California law to make AI safer for kids (and probably preventing lawsuits too)

[hardy breach]

oh neat

-# I still really do not know what, signals means, lmao-

is it just, how people are using the site?

[cursive wyvern]

I seen a popup the other day talking abt a "new chapter" and other stuff

[hardy breach]

-# do they realize that....removing ai sites don't fix the teen s##cide rate, because that can be triggered from literally anywhere on the internet-?

[median token]

Nobody really knows, some people say its when you log in (like if you use it at certain hours that reflect a school-aged kid or get more active during school holidays), log in info (maybe they check if you're logging in at school), the way you speak (gen alpha slang, writing random brainrot in chats) etc

[crude obsidian]

minimizing is the only reliable option

[peak vessel]

If its a law thing I totally get it, I wouldn't want to get sued into oblivion either. I just feel like it makes no sense to get rid of all the children and then keep the app catered towards children

[median token]

That's probably just the update announcement, the flagging thing is different

[hardy breach]

it's the same vibe as the like, devices ban law in schools, in New England, to 'prevent anxiety' in teens

it just feels like it was done all at once with, really no deeper thought about it, on regards of the people who make the laws

sure it's effective at it's goal, but it's not exactly..deeply thought-out-?

[median token]

Yeh but they are still following California law which is going to affect ChatGPT soon too. But they had issues with lawsuits too, so this may also be a part of it

[peak vessel]

it makes sense to get rid of minors bc of the law, I'm more focusing towards keeping it child friendly while it has no children

[median token]

Yeah, I don't get it either 💀

[hardy breach]

did the site not tell us?

-# ...that's partially rhetorical, I feel like I already know they didn't tell us what it means

[cursive wyvern]

Eh ill see if it shows up
It might show up when they start the rollout

[timber canopy]

Ohh

[hardy breach]

why are people in non ai-banning states being affected by it though?

do they not do it by...region or whatever

[median token]

Not really, it was pretty vauge on what they were looking at.

Going forward, it will use technology to detect underage users based on conversations and interactions on the platform, as well as information from any connected social media accounts, he said. If Character.AI thinks a user is under 18, the person will be notified to verify his or her age.

[median token]

the company is based in California

[hardy breach]

cause of course

[hardy breach]

ah that makes sense then

that sucks

[nova chasm]

Should I verify through advanced settings? Does it make a difference? I really don't feel safe showing any id/personal info.

[median token]

There's always the chance you won't get flagged at all

[median token]

You don't have to if you haven't been flagged yet. Some people have the option but haven't actually been given the limit

[hardy breach]

true

i feel like for the large part, if you haven't been flagged yet, you're all set unless something drastically changes (abt your profile or the dectection)

[frozen wraith]

The developers are impressively incompetent.

"We're forbidding accounts under the age of 18 from using Character.AI's main functionality!" Just say you're making the site 18+. It's not that hard.

[nova chasm]

I believe I'm still in the 18+ experience thanks to me having soft launch and being able to edit- I think I just have the option to verify now. (I haven't gotten flagged)

[crude obsidian]

shareholders

[hardy breach]

which means, wahoo, avoided the false-flagging

-# for now

[exotic bobcat]

These bots are also so annoying making me speak in there paragraphs btw

[median token]

Not sure where this notion started but someone who had soft launch + edit got flagged yesterday too. Having both does not mean you won't get flagged

[nova chasm]

Shoot- I saw people saying that was how you were able to tell if you were in the 18+ experience

[exotic bobcat]

Ever heard of the great saying think for the children totally great

[median token]

But you could also be safe still, just waiting on whatever system they have to roll out to everyone to find out

[hardy breach]

I feel though, like child monitoring online/teen support should be the parent's responsibility as a parent

not a website's regulation, or the law's regulation-

[frozen wraith]

"Think for the children"

About time! It only took them 3 different lawsuits, a DMCA strike from Disney themselves, and the news of a teenager's funeral!

[peak vessel]

I feel like the auto mod is trying to make me go crazy (I didn't even break a rule)

Anyways does anyone else feel like sending a picture of your face and/or ID to a massive ai run company may not be the best choice ever

[hardy breach]

yeep

that is sketchy

even if it's technically another website taking it

[frozen wraith]

I don't trust any site with my ID or picture of my own face. It's too sketchy for my liking.

[hardy breach]

at least with google it can be your like, credit card or something, if it's already pre-registered on some online shopping

and you don't have to take a picture of it/send a bunch of information to them

[solid harbor]

WHAT GUYS

[hardy breach]

elo

ye?

[exotic bobcat]

Yeah it’s great that wont let them think for themselves also idk if I’m correct or not but this whole id verification bs for everything online I’m blaming on kier Stalin sorry starmer

[peak vessel]

Yeah that makes sense too

Although, there was one instance with google where it tried to flag my mother's 6 year old google account because it thought she was under 15.. which is strange, because its been verified like 4 times

[low sequoia]

Hi people! Does anyone know why the web version of c.ai doesn’t load anything?

[hardy breach]

weird lmao

[hardy breach]

no clue

i'm using it and it seems fine, is it your connection?

[peak vessel]

Might be on the wrong version, have you checked if its down or not?

[low sequoia]

How do I check?

[low sequoia]

It’s not my connection because everything else works fine lol

[median token]

happening to me too, might just be server issues

[peak vessel]

character ai reddit is really quick with these so just search 'is character ai down' or something like that

[hardy breach]

aight

[hardy breach]

or more reliably

check general chat for the 'site down' stampede

[dim igloo]

Hey cai is down for me too lol it’s not in the Reddit yet

[hardy breach]

oh damn

well, give it a minute - they'll be in gen if it is down

[hasty inlet]

I’m confused, how does the age assurance work? Does it matter on how much you’ve been flagged?

[odd lichen]

My app version stopped loading for a minute but it’s fine again now

[peak vessel]

I might be thinking of something else, ik someplace on reddit is super fast. Like, it doesn't even get reported before someones already talking ab it

[hardy breach]

real

people are reddit are good at that stuff

[low sequoia]

It was down last night too lol

[dim igloo]

Oh I immediately checked Reddit cuz they’re usually fast

[peak vessel]

dare I say that's one of the only things reddit is good for

[proven bridge]

is the app being ridiculously slow for everyone rn🫩

[hardy breach]

huh odd

it might just be a regional thing, mine is fine

[solar bluff]

Do you guys think this could be like the TikTok situation?

[median token]

What's the tiktok situation?

[odd lichen]

Mine was acting up a little, so far it’s okay again but I’m not sure if it will start being slow again

[hardy breach]

real

that and like, baking/cooking stuff - all the 'professionals' who know all the good stuff, are weirdly everywher eon reddit

[hardy breach]

the what-?

[static echo]

I came here to ask the same thing so yep

[peak vessel]

YEAAH Reddit is really good with that stuff, or when someone asks a question 4 years ago and you find the answer to it under a deleted post

[proven bridge]

well guess i’ll binge watch supernatural then!

[low sequoia]

Maybe it’s that too many ppl are using it again and they us haven’t picked it up yet

[solar bluff]

Like when TikTok was banned for a few days and then it came back

[odd lichen]

More than likely

[hardy breach]

real

[proven bridge]

honestly i doubt it’ll be like that

[hardy breach]

oh, was that the like, attempted US ban of it that made everyone freak?

[proven bridge]

but i do think it’ll be easy to get around the age limit on the app

[hardy breach]

i'm not on tiktok enough, to try and keep track of everything my country does that makes people angry/is stupid

[low sequoia]

What age limit?

[solar bluff]

Yeah, could it be like that?

[hardy breach]

on c.ai

[frigid parrot]

i thought it wasn't out yet?

[low sequoia]

There’s gonna be an age limit? I didn’t know about this lol

[hardy breach]

and I doubt it, unless people in california start freaking out enough to change it

[hardy breach]

it's in #📣︱announcements if you wanna check it out

[solar bluff]

Hopefully

[proven bridge]

they’re not gonna risk getting sued again because of a kid acting out🫩

[frigid parrot]

whens the age limit thing coming onto the app?

[proven bridge]

better to just keep them off of it for reals

[low sequoia]

Oh ok, it’s just in the us

[frigid parrot]

nvm just saw the announcement

[proven bridge]

yeah it won’t be reaching other countries this month

you have a little time🙏

[leaden basin]

Twinning with our names

[low sequoia]

Yessss

[hardy breach]

likely

maybe

idk, i've stopped saying never when it comes to this country and it's laws

and it's ability to complain

[proven bridge]

yeah but from an objective standpoint with all the sissy babies in the states it’s best to keep kids off the app as a precaution from getting sued🤑🤑

[low sequoia]

It’s not loading the chat description when you open a new chat and when you try to send a message 😭

[timber canopy]

For now...

[low sequoia]

Prob gonna end up joining the aus ban 😭

[timber canopy]

And the UK one 🫩

[low sequoia]

I didn’t know there was a uk one lol

[proven bridge]

thank god my president isn’t keeping up with how kids are being affected by it🙏🙏

[timber canopy]

Although Aus and the UK don't have laws directly affecting AI chatbots, only California does

[hardy breach]

are other ai sites gonna ban minors then, or restrict it just in states with bans?

[median token]

ChatGPT is next year

[timber canopy]

Not sure, there was a certain site that blocked all UK users cause they couldn't afford age verification

[proven bridge]

yeah but that’s not like a federal thing in the u.s. is it?

[hardy breach]

dang

[proven bridge]

chat gpt sucks its always wrong🫩

[median token]

What do you mean?

[hardy breach]

pft, I doubt we're together enough to make that happen

[proven bridge]

they were asking about ai things banning minors in states and you mentioned chat gpt so i was asking if that was being passed because i don’t know it even existed over here

[median token]

ChatGPT is based in California like cai, it'll probably roll out globally. They are doing age assurances like cai and will separate users from under-18/18+

[proven bridge]

they wouldn’t be able to make their ai government speeches anymore🫩

[low sequoia]

Does anyone know if there is a way to let the team know the website isn’t working lol?

[proven bridge]

oh i see because i wasn’t sure if they were going to do it federally or by states who wanted it to be set

[hardy breach]

real

[median token]

It'll be everyone, just like cai

[proven bridge]

nationally might be a better term idk im going through medication withdrawal i cant be bothered

[median token]

Doesn't matter where you are in either site

[keen silo]

ROOK HUNT

[haughty frigate]

And cater diamond spotted

[hardy breach]

honestly, our president

i never want to hear him give a speech again

but also, I want him to give every speech ever from now on

because gods that would be entertaining, and the internet would have a ball with that

[gloomy current]

Hey, I'm just butting into the conversation here to ask a quick question... For those under 18, will the new features not allow you to type and text the AI, but will allow, like, calling and doing the weird animations...?
I'm just tryna understand here gang I'm not that well updated

[hardy breach]

gasp

Twisted Wonderland spotted

[proven bridge]

he’s so funny and so terrible

[proven bridge]

i think it’s banning users from the app completely… idk for real

but like you’ll still be able to appeal it and stuff sooo

[hardy breach]

I think it will yea, based on teh announcements

it's just the chatting

[hardy breach]

he is, it's so funny, but so bad

[proven bridge]

he was created FOR south park icl

[gloomy current]

I got timed out for saying... Something. Don't know which part was the bad part.

But that... Sucks. And is just... Bad. Like why? What is the point of this....??

[proven bridge]

to prevent kids from ruining their brain development by getting attached to fictional characters

but primarily to not get sued

[night root]

Ello! I have this server that’s about creating c.ai bots on a different app called “Chai.” If you’re interested in joining the discord server, message me and I’ll send you the discord link. You can find the chai account through the discord sever. (We also take bot requests) :3

[proven bridge]

i’ve been waiting 30 minutes for this bot to respond 🫩

[small jay]

Update, the verification now just requests my ID and not the facial verification, yet it doesn't accept my ID

[proven bridge]

bsffr

[hardy breach]

hav eyou seen

so, i've been watching DannyPhantom.exe - and that's where i've been getting a lot of my stuff cause I don't want to look at the actual news

but oh boy the recent stuff

[eternal yoke]

Hii

[low sequoia]

Does anyone know how to report c.ai problems to the team?

[gloomy current]

Are we so fr rn, i got timed out for 5 minutes, I keep violating some form of rule while trying to js express ideas for c.ai or sum, I'm just gonna stop talking 🙏

[noble oriole]

Hi Waifu is also good..despite the name…it is a pretty annoying app without premium. (One message costs like a certain amount of energy) but its worth it

[proven bridge]

no i watch the actual news🫩

[small jay]

So yeah, the verification registers me as a minor now despite me being over 18, this is bs

[proven bridge]

happens to the best of us

[proven bridge]

just make a new account atp😞

[small jay]

I guess that may be the only option now

[gloomy current]

Yeah, I've considered leaving the server so many times cause it just keeps happening every single time i try to say something

[proven bridge]

yeah that’s why i stopped criticizing

[gloomy current]

They're scared of criticism, that's my take....

[shut palm]

C.ai hating on freedom of speech frfr 🫩

[gloomy current]

Thank you!! :D

[small jay]

Hey, the new account worked. It now sees me as over 18 finally, thanks.

[swift seal]

Pretty much

[proven bridge]

AYEE GO QUEEN

[pseudo monolith]

automod is just like that its shit

[lime radish]

How do I check if my age is correct? Ig the update hasn't been released for me yet

[worldly latch]

What accounts does the new update look at? Is it like only google accounts/icloud?

[magic venture]

I love your pfp, sorry, had to say that real quick

[night root]

Oml tysmmmmmm 👹👹🤭🤭

[magic venture]

Ywwwwwww

[proven bridge]

i just got timed out for responding

[sturdy lichen]

Why cant i post my bot it wont let me save changes when it's public

[obtuse gull]

is anyone else having a problem where one of their personas was randomly defaulted and won’t let you take it off as your default ?

[finite flint]

Try cropping the pfp

[violet hill]

Automod tends to bonk you for no reason.

Was it "rules 4, 5, 6 or 7"? Lol. Automod is very prone to false flags I've found.

[proven bridge]

yes.

[sturdy lichen]

Nvm i fixed it js didn't make a change

[violet hill]

Yeah I get bonked all the time. Don't worry about it.

[compact tartan]

Yeah I've been timed out by automod for swearing before.

[harsh linden]

is it just me or why do the bots keep calling themselves "daddy"?? im so uncomfortable wth ;-;

[main ferry]

mines doing that too where it isnt loading a new chat or anything

[low sequoia]

Yeah, I submitted a ticket a little while ago

[wind anvil]

Wont c.ai go broke after they turn off chats for users under the Age of 18, like isn't 80% of the users minors??

[harsh linden]

fr tho-

[night root]

I have this server that’s about creating c.ai bots on a different app called “Chai.” If you’re interested in joining the discord server, message me and I’ll send you the discord link. You can find the chai account through the discord sever. (We also take bot requests) :3

[rustic pecan]

No. 30% at most according to the CEO.

[hard cargo]

Honestly, I just started using chatgpt to roleplay because it definitely has longer text. Even though it has a greater censorship. Chatgpt just have so many advantage.
I don't understand why c. Ai instead of getting rid or make a lighter censorship decided to drop that update

[rustic pecan]

Because of laws being passed and not wanting more lawsuits against them that involve minors.

[untold jacinth]

does anyone have any tips on making personas? i want them at least as detailed as possible, and i kind of want to see others formats on their descriptions for OCs/characters

[sand cloud]

how do we verify on our settings has anyone figured it out

[untold jacinth]

go to advanced settings and there’ll be a button that says “verify age”

[sand cloud]

it only says delete account

[ancient topaz]

I have a question and I don’t really know where to ask so- If you lose chat because it says you are under 18 once that update roles out, is it just- gone forever? Or can you still access your account after that and just need to verify your age?

[untold jacinth]

then it probably hasn’t gotten to your account yet

[bleak venture]

This is only in the U.S right now so if your not in the U.S then idk

[untold jacinth]

i think it just got to my account yesterday

[finite flint]

All your chats and stuff are saved and you can use other features. You just can’t chat anymore

[bleak venture]

You can still access your account you'll just be limited

[analog blade]

Some of the bots I've liked aren't showing up in the area I can normally look for them at ;-;

[sand cloud]

what does it do? you just put in your birthdate?

[main ferry]

im very descriptive as well and i like to use a reference of my oc and describe the features etc

[untold jacinth]

you’ll need to take a photo of yourself

if it thinks you’re under 18, you’ll need to provide an ID of some sort

[bleak venture]

Which needs a photo of you also

[sand cloud]

i mean i’m over the age of 18 and my email says it too so i’m not to worried🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

[main ferry]

now that is a breach of privacy I don’t feel comfortable with that i mean yea i get it but like that could be used for fraud etc

literally someone said that in one of the feedback threads

[untold jacinth]

personally, i don’t think it’s a breach of privacy.

no one is forcing you to give them your ID.

[bleak venture]

They are using the same app roblox is using i think

[halcyon cypress]

tons of people post selfies of themselves online and are never the victims of identity theft

[frank ermine]

hope they change their minds 😔

[bleak venture]

The app they are using is made to delete your face after

[untold jacinth]

you’re 12..?

[sand cloud]

good to know

[restive ridge]

I hope everyone realizes that nothing is actually deleted on the internet...

[halcyon cypress]

ToS says you have to be 13 to use the app, you also have to be 13 to be on discord

[bleak venture]

I wouldnt admit that on discord

[main ferry]

Get off discord-

[restive ridge]

Why tf is a 12 year old on here

[untold jacinth]

if you’re 12 on discord, let alone c.ai that’s actually crazy

[timber merlin]

[sand cloud]

are 12 years old even allowed on discord💀💀💀

[rancid oyster]

No

[main ferry]

someone get a mod pls-

[untold jacinth]

no

[bleak venture]

Kids are on here 😣, they always have been

[timber merlin]

isnt there a age limit.. ?

[sand cloud]

that’s what i thought

[main ferry]

i don’t wanna mention them cuz i dont wanna get warned

[rancid oyster]

@heavy dirge we have a 12 year old here

[untold jacinth]

but admitting it is crazy

[halcyon cypress]

no lol there is literally an option to report people for being under 13 which i just did

[timber merlin]

right bro

[crude bolt]

Yall everything is ok you’ll be able to verify your age at a later date even if your chats are locked!

[restive ridge]

Get tf outta here

[keen rock]

Girl is breaking ToS 💀💀

[marsh viper]

bc your a child 🥹

[untold jacinth]

you’re joking, right

[sand cloud]

where are your parents 💀💀💀

[bleak venture]

Yeah, unfortunately I was the same at her age but things happen its whatever I'm 17 now dw

[untold jacinth]

please go outside and save your childhood </3

[bleak venture]

I love that little reminder

[marsh viper]

this ☝️

[timber merlin]

right 😭

[rancid oyster]

@gray coyote Ellie_19 is a 12 year old on discord and in the server

[marsh viper]

while you still have it

[sand cloud]

please touch some grass and go to to the park and play jesus

[timber merlin]

wasting your years on discord and c.ai is INSANE babes

[untold jacinth]

when i was 12 i was collecting different kind of rocks i found at my grandparents house…

[misty grove]

I swear everytime I come in here, my brain fizzles

[keen rock]

Sorry

[bleak venture]

I think society has a role to play in that though, we have people making videos about things they hate, dont like and things you should do before a certain age so its gonna feed into little kids

[untold jacinth]

and also jamming out to twentyonepilots

[halcyon cypress]

"cai is the only thing that understands me" is a crazy statement

[sand cloud]

i would go to the park and collect leaves in different shapes not spending my time online at that age

[main ferry]

@fiery geyser is 12 pls ban and they admitted it @left bay (sorry for ping)

[marsh viper]

when i was 12 i was picking up huge sticks and hitting my siblings with them

[finite flint]

Yall need to speak to your counselors at school. That’s what they are there for lol

[untold jacinth]

but going on an ai app??? that isn’t going to help genuinely

[unique onyx]

i can’t believe they’re kicking all their -18 users off. i mean ig it makes sense (and tbh they really shouldn’t be spending time on this platform anyway) but it always seemed like cai has been so insistent that its ’kid friendly’ the switch up is crazy

[misty grove]

Do you have any connections outside of c.ai? It's not healthy talking to c.ai bots at this age.

[main ferry]

wiat shit wrong @

[bleak venture]

Most cant be trusted.

[wispy atlas]

I’m not sure it’s very healthy for you to rely on the app at your young age.

[frail robin]

logs in Discord
go to c.ai server
check #💭︱cai-discussion
new update complainers/whiners at it again

sigh.

[keen rock]

They are also trying to follow the law

[rancid oyster]

@drowsy oasis Ellie_19 is a 12 year old, not old enough to be on discord.

[keen rock]

Sorry 😔

[frail robin]

right? lol. was thinkin the same

[rancid oyster]

Hopefully one works eventually lol

[halcyon cypress]

they have a new CEO who has different ideas than the old one about the best direction for the company, plus the new laws.

[marsh viper]

homework needs to be done btw

[finite flint]

There are always other options. turning to strangers on discord and stating your age as a minor is crazy lol

[frail robin]

ok

[median token]

im gonna sound like a boomer when i say this but kids should really enjoy their youth and do shit outside, play around and have fun instead of staying indoors and talking to chatbots

[rancid oyster]

We don't care, ToS states you need to be 13+

[halcyon cypress]

obviously not since you joined this server

[keen rock]

💀 then why are you here girlie, also you are breaking ToS

[untold jacinth]

no bc this is true and i feel like people need to hear this more

[halcyon cypress]

i'm willing to bet this isn't the only server you're in either

[rancid oyster]

Thank you mods

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-decade-vs-kamen-rider-zi-o-kamen-rider-zi-o-kamen-rider-zi-o-vs-kamen-rider-decade-dcd-vs-zi-o-zi-o-vs-dcd-gif-22725155

[bleak venture]

Yes it very much is but it's also not very affordable or even accessible for others as well, that's the issue with that. The society and social media are causing some of these issues not just c.ai

[frail robin]

scorching lava take if said on #💬︱general

[median token]

definitely, my fondest memories was just going out and doing random shit without a phone and going home when it was dark enough for my parents to get mad at me 💀

[zealous turtle]

Hey can anyone explain the age thing??

[untold jacinth]

this is why my mom gave me an ipod as my first “phone”

[halcyon cypress]

i think staying indoors is fine too but like for stuff like reading and writing or art, not being chronically online. you need balance

[zealous turtle]

Are you gonna have to age verify with an id?

[harsh shoal]

An iPod Touch was top tier, tho

[timber canopy]

As someone who's used cai as a coping mechanism at one point, it's not healthy at all. There are better options out there

[harsh shoal]

I miss mine so much

[lavish lily]

Wait i just read the 24. November thing. Can under 18 people like, not chat with bots at all anymore or what?

[harsh shoal]

🥹

[keen rock]

Yes if you fail your selfie because of baby face

[untold jacinth]

i loved my ipod sm, snapchat back in like 2015-2016 was amazing

[keen rock]

Yes correct

[rancid oyster]

I still have my 6th generation iPad after a couple of years. Butchered it being on it so much in the past but it still kicking

[median token]

my first phone wasnt terrible but i definitely wasnt able to do too much with it. but i didn't mind because i just needed it for emergencies 🤷‍♂️ only got it because my school was far away. idk why parents buy their under-13s iphones now

[frail robin]

folks asking for alternatives further vindicates this update.

btw

[bleak venture]

I was the same, but thats not what I'm saying. Im saying that therapy and stuff isnt accessible never said anything about defending c.ai

[lavish lily]

BRO WHAT WHY NOT 💔😔

[harsh shoal]

Yes, 1:1 chats with Characters will be removed. Please check out our previous #📣︱announcements

[zealous turtle]

Ohh they’re doing the Roblox thing—

[untold jacinth]

(yes i had an ipod at 9-10 but it was so my mom could still talk to me 💔)

[keen rock]

Yeah, it's for California law

[timber canopy]

I never had an ipod, I was and still am a samsung girlie 💔

[bleak venture]

I love my Samsung 💔

[median token]

me too, 3 gens of samsungs (my last one lasted me six years 💔 )

[keen rock]

The law

[harsh shoal]

My unc status will show (my very first iPhone was a hand-me down iPhone 3GS)

[keen rock]

I love my Samsung chat ♥️♥️

[timber canopy]

LITERALLY, I lived on the notes line until they got discontinued

[median token]

samsung crew fr i love my silly lil phone

[bleak venture]

I got first my phone at nine and it was a Samsung J5

[stiff sedge]

lol whos giving out their id bc im not

[halcyon cypress]

mine too lol

[lavish lily]

sigh hope this law isn't in heaven

[harsh shoal]

And I got that like first year of Uni

[bleak venture]

I have the s23 ultra and I love my little silly pen

[harsh shoal]

So there's that

[timber canopy]

My first phone was a Samsung note edge

[harsh shoal]

[unique onyx]

there are new laws? rly?

[ivory rivet]

This rule just might give me the push to quit AI🙏(even though I'm over age but still-)

[median token]

noooo rip thje notes 💔 i usuall yjust get the S series, my last one broke bc i dropped it and the power button flew off 💀 had it for 6 years, would of had it for 3 more if it wasnt for that incident. my s22+ is now acting up but the new ones they are gonna release look kinda ugly

[harsh linden]

my first phone was an iPhone S- im so happy I got an android now lol

[timber canopy]

I have the 25 ultra, has to switch to the S series cause they discontinued the notes 💔

[keen rock]

California sb 243 and California's AB 1043

[zealous turtle]

I hate how they’re doing ts is js gonna gonna ruin shit dude ✌️😭

[median token]

omg i want a samsung pen

[bleak venture]

I've been slowly quitting myself, I had the app deleted for just over a month before I downloaded it again 😭

[unique onyx]

what does that do?

[harsh shoal]

This was my daily driver back in Uni. I loved this thing, managed to get a GBA emulator working on it, lmao

[bleak venture]

Trust me the S series are amazing

[timber canopy]

I held onto my note 20 for 5 years until the battery started expanding and I was forced to get a new phone

[median token]

ngl those physical buttons were so satisfying to press

[ivory rivet]

I made it almost two months before I got back on😭

[halcyon cypress]

same lmao i just had flip phones before that, motorola razr and samsung gravity 😭

[keen rock]

Its both California laws requiring ID verification and a timeout for minors

[zealous turtle]

It’s been hard for me to delete the app, I adore using the bots n stuff

[bleak venture]

Mines pink! :3 gorgeous pink (everything i own is pink)

[bleak venture]

Ugh I feel that so bad 😭

[timber canopy]

Omg it reminds me of the blackberry phones I used to love those

[ivory rivet]

Right?? 😭

[eternal flame]

What just happened

[marsh viper]

holy memories

[median token]

damn rip your note, my 22's battery is getting pretty awful. i might have to upgrade soon

[eternal flame]

Hey kappa

[harsh shoal]

#💬︱general : The Unction

[median token]

im emo so i choose the black one 💀 i like that it blends with the screen too

[bleak venture]

I recommend the S series, thats what I have anyways

[timber canopy]

Mines silver cause they didn't do green like my last phone

[harsh shoal]

I used to rock a Blackberry too. Blackberry Messenger was so underrated

[bleak venture]

LOL, valid 😭 my phone technically black because its a hand me down but I love that the pen is pink

[median token]

yes!! my progression has been s4 > s7 > s22+

[halcyon cypress]

my old phones 🥲

[finite flint]

I wasn’t blaming Cai at all twin. I was stating they’re too young to be here and rather rely on the app and a discord server full of strangers they should find services available to them. Or they can reach out to someone near them. But they’re gone now so

[timber canopy]

I loved blackberry, the only iPhone I ever used was the 4

[median token]

i wanna get the flip so i can hang up on people like the classic ones

[main ferry]

exactly like half of their members are -18 like i get it u want minors gone but like you could’ve limited the TYPE or HOW many chats or maybe the characters

[ivory rivet]

I'm so praying this is the final push I need to quit for good😭

[timber canopy]

And those super colourful but tiny Nokia phones 😭

[median token]

ohh LOL is your case at least pink?

[bleak venture]

Ooo! My old phone was a s20 plus!, I love the S series so much

[median token]

S is so poggers, the new ui 8 weather app is pretty

[keen rock]

Actually I think its more like 30% of members are -18 (i could be incorrect but I believe that's the statics)

[bleak venture]

Ofc it is, it has a little bow that says bling bling

[ivory rivet]

I feel like I can't say anything because my first phone was a flip phone 🧍

[timber canopy]

ONG YESS THE NEW ANIMATIONS

[keen rock]

I have the S21 and I love it dearly

[median token]

im just a clear case girlie with my id in the back 💀

[main ferry]

man my first phone was a Nokia X100

[bleak venture]

They're UI updates always eat, I love how accessible everything is on my phone is can basically use my phone on my laptop

[median token]

YEAH ITS SO NICE!! i just hate how it takes you to the website when you click it

[harsh shoal]

I also had one of these

I really dating myself so bad lmao

[bleak venture]

LOL valid, I love to have cute phone cases tbh

[median token]

for real! i love the new battery icon, despite all the hate people give it

[keen rock]

I couldn't because then the case is going to turn yellow 💔 instead I have a wallet phone case

[small scarab]

Ok so when i tried to duplicate a chat i was doing from a certain point something popped up and said Too many messages to duplicate and i didn't know there was a limite

[fallen halo]

is it c.ai down??

[timber canopy]

I have a glitter clear case ✌️

[bleak venture]

I think its so cute 😣 a cute little bubble

[ivory rivet]

Nope, new update

[median token]

me too!! i'll get a nicer one when i finally upgrade my phone... idk if i wanna wait for the new release or get the 25

[halcyon cypress]

i used to put rhinestones and phone charms on my phone i was a peak early 2000s girl

[median token]

mine is yellow and falling apart 😟

[fallen halo]

why i cant switch model or chat with the bot then??

[timber canopy]

I was so confused when people were complaining about the new battery icon cause my phone came with it I didn't have to update 💀

[main ferry]

18+ update or either ur having my problem (which is my chats aren’t loading)

[bleak venture]

Get the 25 the 26 will probably be the same anyways

[median token]

right??? i love the music ui too when its at the top

[timber canopy]

25 is so good

[keen rock]

Rip your phone case, its on its last leg

[median token]

im so tempted... maybe with my christmas money i'll get it

[bleak venture]

Ooo yes and when its at the bottom on the lock screen!, its so cute

[harsh shoal]

And then there's this ugly thing. I used to play a lot of Java games on it.

[median token]

it served me well for 2 years 🫡

[fallen halo]

mines is just no intro bots and unavailable to switch models

[median token]

YEAH i love it!! so much, ughh i wonder what ui9 will look like

[main ferry]

i feel young seeing yalls old phones

[bleak venture]

Yeah, the new releases are kind of getting the same but the 25 is great even tho it has AI

[lime charm]

I feel old since I remember seeing them as a kid.

[main ferry]

ok so u have the same problem as me (glad im not the only one)

[bleak venture]

Hopefully bubbly because I love the bubble thing have going on

[median token]

yeah i dont like the samsung ai, feels like iw ont ever use it and it'll just bloat my device

[karmic fractal]

Oh my god.. I remember this type of Nokia phones.. even the flip flop phones and the old CD players..

[median token]

bubbles are the best. i love them!!

[prime flame]

guys does anyone know if it has to be a drivers license only? or can i use my permit? thats the only ID i have

[fallen halo]

yeah, i did ask earlier and no one seemed to answer

[timber canopy]

I remember my uncle had a Nokia Lumia and the UI was SOOO confusing 😭

[bleak venture]

It shouldn't be much of a problem tbh

[median token]

i really miss when the phones had built in radios?? why did they stop doing that 😭 and the aux cord. give it back

[lime charm]

Me too! Especially for the CD cases one needs for music in their car

[zealous turtle]

Does anyone use Sakura or any other ais?? R they the same or better??

[timber canopy]

Can't discuss that here

[bleak venture]

Yes me too!, I love that most apps now have bubbles as some form everywhere

[median token]

yeah, phones come with a lot of storage nwo. i dont really use it other than for spotify downloads and photos

[median token]

fs! i just love things rounded out

[timber canopy]

I've never used that Gemini stuff

[prime flame]

wow yall in this server are literally no help

[zealous turtle]

Wait how come?? Do I go to general??

[ivory rivet]

Anyone remember when phones had a plug for headphones and you had to find the perfect angle when it bent?

[bleak venture]

Yeah same tbh, I only use it for Instagram, discord and Spotify 😭

[fallen halo]

if sillytavern, its kind of hard to find an actual ai model that is close to c.ai's

[timber canopy]

No it's against the server rules

[karmic fractal]

Probably didn't get enough sales or something, I could be wrong.

[bleak venture]

Me too feels so pleasing to me especially because im some what of a perfectionist

[harsh shoal]

You can use any government ID

[median token]

yeah i dont really download games or anything so i dont need storage. which is good bc phones dont come with sd card holders anymore 🙄

[prime flame]

okay thank you!

[median token]

rip tuning into the radio after getting dropped off at school. bring back radios in phones

[karmic fractal]

The ipods... 💔 those were the classics

[zealous turtle]

Hm okayy. I am looking for some new ones so I can kinda get away from c AI. I js get kinda lonely and use it when I’m bored

[bleak venture]

Yeah LOL, Mines right next to my charging port 😣

[timber canopy]

I yearn for an ipod, I used to be so jealous of the cool speaker docks you could get for them

[median token]

how good is your battery? my s22 one is so bad, like 5-6 hours maybe if i'm lucky

[harsh shoal]

Bring back the SD Card and headphone jack slots

[fallen halo]

same, its kind of like some drxg

[median token]

i need those back... why the hell does everything need to be bluetooth??? give me my cord

[keen rock]

We can't discuss other ais here

[halcyon cypress]

those nokia phones were insanely built

[bleak venture]

Depends how long im on it, since its a hand me down its bit more eh but it usually last me 26 hours if I'm not always on it but if im on it all day like 8 hours

[prime flame]

why isnt it letting me verify my age i press on it and it does nothing

[median token]

ok something is definitely wrong with my phone battery then 😒 it heats up like crazy even when i'm only on the itnernet

[zealous turtle]

EXACRTLYY. Lwk I js get so friggen bored I need more friends desperately

[halcyon cypress]

this meme doesn't understand the cover was just to protect your floor from being damaged if you dropped it

[bleak venture]

Yeah, mine doesnt heat up unless i play roblox so the battery could just be old and need replacement but its not worth it to do that just get a new phone

[karmic fractal]

Damn this brings back the old memories... do you remember the old video tapes? waaay before blueray.

[fallen halo]

life would go more easier if c.ai bots we're open source, cuz sillytavern's ones are rarely sfw.

though, the ai models are kind of hard to make them c.ai alike

[bleak venture]

On my s20 plus I got notifications telling me to get a new phone battery which is never worth doing imo

[harsh shoal]

Yep

[median token]

yeah atp im prob just gonna get a new phone

[harsh shoal]

Thank God we don't use those anymore

[timber canopy]

I had those on my note 20, never took it seriously until the back of the phone started lifting off

[median token]

i was gonna get an iphone bc everyone at my work uses it and im green in the imessage chats 😔 but samsung has been my go-to

[bleak venture]

😭

[halcyon cypress]

we had DVDs before bluray and VHS

[zealous turtle]

Is silly tavern an app??

[median token]

y'all remember burning cd albums for money at school?

[bleak venture]

IPhone is worse with over heating issues, battery life and the only good thing is the camera

[halcyon cypress]

i still have a VCR and tons of VHS tapes

[faint birch]

my iphone 12 battery is horrendous I’ve had this thing for years 😭 I have to charge it like 2/3 times a day

[median token]

tbh i like iphone lock screens and stuff but i prefer samsung in general. plus the new iphone pro looks kinda ugly

[fallen halo]

kind of, but you can run it on any potato laptop, and kind of hard to find free models backend

[halcyon cypress]

not for money i just did it as a hobby lol

[timber canopy]

I still collect DVDs cause none of my favourite films are on streaming platforms

[median token]

we did it for money 💀 guess we were greedy but getting those mp3 files werent easy

[bleak venture]

The iPhone should burn 😭 its hideous, I love my Samsung, wait can I dm you something 😣

[median token]

yes ofc!! 😭 the new iphone is so weird ughhgghh

[timber canopy]

What update?

No it's not LMAO

[halcyon cypress]

i refuse to update my ios until they force me

[median token]

do you have the glass ui yet

[timber canopy]

Well if you're over 18 then verify your age, if not then you gotta wait until you can

[halcyon cypress]

hell no i hate change, i'm still running ios 17

[idle finch]

whatttt😭

[timber canopy]

I delayed 2 months worth of updates on my phone cause I have an irrational fear of updates 💔

[faint birch]

I updated mine to the liquid glass ui and I swear to god it drains my battery even faster than before, dont do it 💔

[halcyon cypress]

it works fine and it looks good idc

and my battery isnt constantly draining

[halcyon cypress]

i hate updates my last windows update destroyed my 9 year old laptop

they forced it on me

[median token]

does apple force updates or can you just leave it forever?

[timber canopy]

I delayed updating to one ui 8 for AGES, I was so scared and I have no idea why

[halcyon cypress]

they do not but eventually you have to update bc all apps will stop working and updating properly

once i can no longer update apps thats when i usually give in and update

[wind plaza]

im kinda pissed at the update ngl (should i be ? no. am i ? yes.)

[keen rock]

That's understandable

[wind plaza]

OMG THE BOILED ONE BUT JOLLY

[keen rock]

[median token]

oh rip.... my work mac keeps asking me to update but i keep putting it off

[wind plaza]

HIIII

[median token]

it'll get updated when things stop working

[lime charm]

Oh man. iPods. Those were the best

[lavish ibex]

How do I verify my age

[fading lantern]

Do they store the photo of your government ID?

[terse forge]

does anyone know if c.ai uses Persona Identities for age verification because i just heard Persona is actually not a good company… not entirely sure though, i only heard about this from another server…

[rustic pecan]

It’s a good company and yes they use them.

[wintry jasper]

Who else loves it when c.ai bots spill their script

[fading lantern]

Do they store government ID photos?

[terse forge]

apparently Persona is using people’s photos for deepfake ai scams, blackmailing and even inappropriate ai generated stuff… they say they remove the photos and ids afterwards buuuut they actually do not…

[rustic pecan]

Only for a week.

[rustic pecan]

You can literally google the company and see this isn’t true. Lmao??? Lots of professionals use it and had no problems.

[dense quail]

this update will ruin the website ngl

[rustic pecan]

It won’t.

[fading lantern]

And you can't ask them to delete it sooner?

[rustic pecan]

No. But they do delete.

[dense quail]

maybe or maybe not who knows

(Yes)

Putting in your ID for a chatbot website is ridiculous

[frail robin]

then stop using

you'd stop watching a movie u didnt like right? instead of making 30 videos "reviewing" it and expressing how bad and waste of time it is.

[dense quail]

how many people are gonna just “stop using”

[rustic pecan]

Nobody is making you share your ID. it’s a choice.

[frail robin]

c.ai is not entitled to serve anything to people.

if u dont like their product, just quit.

[lunar cipher]

You dont like drugs? Just quit.

[dense quail]

how many people are going to “just quit” and move into other alternatives

[frail robin]

so ai usage is like using drugs?

(which is true to an extent due to how addicting it is)

[rustic pecan]

They can quit. C.AI has millions of users. They can lose some lmao

[lunar cipher]

Yes it release a dopamine.

[orchid crag]

If it helps anyone feel better, Persona the same company that handles the job site Linkedin I think

So I'd say they're pretty trustworthy all things considered

[rustic pecan]

It’s dopamine.

[frail robin]

yeah and so what do u suggest c.ai do? have them use the platform gradually less and less? which is exactly what they are doing currently with the 2 hr limit?

[harsh shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/what-russell-westbrook-okc-thunder-confused-wtf-gif-15849599788084934051

[ivory rivet]

Yes, practically

[lunar cipher]

Not require a age limit?

[dense quail]

welll we’re only at the up ramp of the roller coaster, we’re almost at top and after the top everything goes downhill

[frail robin]

u dont understand. there is still a chance that ur personal sht might get leaked!

and if u believe so, then again, stop using the platform

[frail robin]

there is already an age limit for chatting.

[fading lantern]

Isn't that a risk for any website you share info to, though?

[lunar cipher]

I meant age verification i apologize for the misunderstanding

[frail robin]

exactly.

and these people have Google accounts.

[frail robin]

yeah, the entirely new update is about age verification.

[rustic pecan]

Age verification is now required by law.

[dense quail]

This is the craziest reasoning I’ve heard

[bleak venture]

Yes people just wanna act like their phone is gathering data rn as we speak

[lunar cipher]

Oh

[dense quail]

“You get your data leaked all the time, so what does it matter if we do it”

[frail robin]

brother just say u dont want ur face being out there and be done with it.

thats a valid concern.

[bleak venture]

Your phone is always listening...😣 well mine is

[dense quail]

Yeah in like the UK

[frail robin]

when was the last time Persona, the third party verification system, has had a data leak? Any news?

[bleak venture]

I need to set up my voice for Google

[dense quail]

about that…

[bleak venture]

Its true 😭 ads are personalized to your taste because your phone is listening to you and gathering data from you put in

[frail robin]

Stop playing Roblox if u believe this btw. Cuz they are using the same platform to verify people for VC and sht.

[median token]

if you exist, your data is somewhere out there

[lunar cipher]

Let me just do the thing already c.ai let me verify

[frail robin]

They had Facebook btw. Even if they arent using it anymore, chances are they still have ur data.

Again, totally against that. But be consistent and stop being selective like this one chatter here.

[dense quail]

No for VC you use your phone number

[bleak venture]

No you need ID for 17+ vc

[pseudo monolith]

that was during its beta phase

[frail robin]

holy zhit.

[median token]

oh lord, facebook/meta is horrid. if you have a google account, your data is already somewhere.

[dense quail]

WHATTTT YOU NEED TO BE 17 TOTO ACCESS THE 17 VC WHAT WHAT WHAT

[fading lantern]

I'm pretty sure even newborns have data online.

[dense quail]

chat bots shouldn’t be 18+

[pseudo monolith]

oh mb i thought u mean u gotta be 17+ for vc

if you wanna access 18+ games then yeah u need an id verification

[frail robin]

again, they just dont want their faces to be out there. which is completely valid.

if so, just say that.

these people are being sourgrapes about being left out.

[bleak venture]

Yes?? 😭

[crude bolt]

Yall save yourselves delete the app

[fading lantern]

PAVLOVA COOKIE PFP! 😄

[bleak venture]

Your okay pookie!, I misread things all the time HAHA

[frail robin]

yeah idek about that.

[dense quail]

Should ChatGPT need age verification

[bleak venture]

Eh...depends

[short osprey]

Does anyone have a non 18+ ai sight I could use that's both website and app

[median token]

they will have it soon

[crude bolt]

CAN YOU ADD ME PLZ

[pseudo monolith]

roblox changed all 17+ games to 18+ 💔

[frail robin]

yes they are, as we speak, have age-estimation system in place.

the same technology that c.ai is currently using.

[rustic pecan]

Can’t talk about other apps here

[short osprey]

Oh crap wrong chat srry

[bleak venture]

Damnnn, lucky I turn 18 next year and can just pop that ID

[pseudo monolith]

youtube!

[frail robin]

people being against this update and asking for alternatives further justifies this much needed and overdue update

[glad tinsel]

anything but fixing the “damn” problem 😭

[dense quail]

how

[sly geyser]

fr

[main ferry]

soo is it just me or is my chats not loading? Like whenever i try to start a new chat (even with the same bot) it doesn’t load the intro?

[frail robin]

because it demonstrates the need for it from yalls reception to the update.

[median token]

tbh if you're a minor and you are that crazy about it, maybe ai chatboxes shouldn't be a thing you should have access to until your brain properly develops (aka those minors who are talking about stealing their parents ids, faking the system, etc.)

[frail robin]

like again, u18s shouldnt have access to chatbots. like at all.

[dense quail]

Or maybe we don’t want to give our face and ID????

[bleak venture]

Exactly

[frail robin]

again, stop using c.ai!! what the hell bru 😭

[bleak venture]

And stop using roblox because roblox is using the same thing

[glad tinsel]

i only ise it for things like drawing ideas because pinterest never has what i like and story character names but witht the update i can’t (bad excuse ik) 😓

[frail robin]

its different u dont get it

[glad tinsel]

you what???

[dense quail]

yeah because your talking to actual adults

[pseudo monolith]

omg omg does the same california law that's affecting ai sites also affect roblox?

[bleak venture]

I don't think you understand at all

[dense quail]

Chat bots shouldn’t need a ID

[frail robin]

nah they are using the same provider, Persona. Yk, the one a lot of people here are railing against.

[sly geyser]

minors shouldnt need an ai

[pseudo monolith]

ah so the law doesn't affect roblox

[fading lantern]

I think they're doing it in response to the lawsuits.

[dense quail]

where was the word minor mentioned

[bleak venture]

I dont think people understand how bad addictions can actually get

[frail robin]

nah it doesnt. but they are still implementing it cuz there has been lots of incidents revolving that platform.

[sly geyser]

in my message

[ivory rivet]

I honestly would but I feel like people don't know how much of an addiction AI in general has become

[frail robin]

#💭︱cai-discussion message

this u?

[dense quail]

AI generated

[pseudo monolith]

omg my girl used to be hella addicted to c.ai and i felt kinda disappointed in myself ngl but we're good now 💋

[frail robin]

which is an unfortunate thing.

[pseudo monolith]

partly why i joined this server btw

[bleak venture]

Sameee, 😣 I feel so great for breaking the addiction, but im happy for youuu

[crude bolt]

I’m self aware and I’m trying to wean myself off of it

[pseudo monolith]

yeah she's clean for 8 months and im proud of her for that :3

[bleak venture]

That's so good!

[ivory rivet]

Same here

[eternal flame]

I'm glad your friends is changing from a addicted

[crude bolt]

I’m struggling

[bleak venture]

Tbh I'm just here because I like to debate

[lunar cipher]

All my chats without ending why c.AI

[ivory rivet]

We know

[bleak venture]

Can I steal that?

[crude bolt]

I can’t even properly scroll on tiktok without wanting to do it

[dense quail]

This should instantly win every lawsuit ngl

[pseudo monolith]

i dont even use the site i just joined the server and i was like hey i kinda like it here so i stayed

[golden helm]

Issa sticker

[eternal flame]

[bleak venture]

Realll

[bleak venture]

Aww man 😣 ill find it somewhere I just got rid of my nitro

[lunar cipher]

Just foward it

[sly geyser]

just screenshot it and crop the unneeded parts

[golden helm]

U screenshot and crop

[cold gazelle]

"Well, that was between him and the—" no.

[bleak venture]

I will eventually

[bleak venture]

Like go on c.ai?

[crude bolt]

Yes

[crude bolt]

It’s so bad I know

[bleak venture]

Have you deleted the app?, I found it hard to break the addiction also. I deleted the app and just played roblox everrytime I got an urge

[ivory rivet]

I've been trying to find games and people also struggling with it to talk with instead but it's hard

[crude bolt]

Yes I’ve had it deleted for about a hour now

[vocal gazelle]

so what would happen if i deleted my account in character ai? i got bored of being addicted to it and i feel it's getting worse every time

[bleak venture]

Okay good, now you just gotta keep your mind busy

[frail robin]

my homepage on the site is so much better than the app. bru all the characters im seeing is either anime or manhwa, mafia-type or some weird scenario bots

like srly. the app's algo is so fcking bad.

[crude bolt]

Your now my life coach/j

[bleak venture]

LOL

[oblique crypt]

yall I kinda need help getting rid of my addiction .. :]

[glad tinsel]

no fr and svery single ai just naturally starts using “damn” becauss i’ve tried about 17 bots. it instantly said “damn” and it wasn’t necessaryyyy

[bleak venture]

I downloaded it last night (I broke my no c.ai thing), and saw alpha males everywhere

[oblique crypt]

I deleted my last account but my addiction made me make a new one :>

[pseudo monolith]

💔

[glad tinsel]

me too

[main ferry]

seeing if anyone is gonna bother answering

[bleak venture]

Delete the app, hide the app and keep your mind busy and away (play a game or get a new favorite hobby)

[glad tinsel]

just you ngl

[vocal gazelle]

me too! i really need help too and i even started thinking about deleting my account but i hesitate

[bleak venture]

Hobbies people! Get hobbies!

[oblique crypt]

I have a ton of hobbies

[crude bolt]

WE ARE TRYING SIGH

[bleak venture]

C.ai shouldn't be apart of that

[main ferry]

but my connection and everything is fine? Is it maybe the website status down?

[crude bolt]

C.ai shouldn’t have become a thing

[bleak venture]

Idk try something new 😣 maybe go to a knitting club or do some painting

[glad tinsel]

idk i did get a thingy saying cloudfare was down so im not sure

[oblique crypt]

Fr

[bleak venture]

I like to knit while watching anime works wonders

[main ferry]

oh

[bleak venture]

Yeah 💔

[crude bolt]

It’s not our faults we got caught in the mess

[oblique crypt]

I make kandi but my parents took all my kandi stuff away

[pseudo monolith]

i saw my 22 year old unemployed cousin using c.ai 💔

[bleak venture]

WHAT

[crude bolt]

Oh

[oblique crypt]

.. W H A T

[idle finch]

well why are u in the server then

[bleak venture]

Nvm I remember how bad the economy is and how there's not a lot a jobs 💔

[lunar cipher]

Time to become a jan!tor

[pseudo monolith]

she didnt even bother going to college and just lives under her parent's roof since then

[crude bolt]

I came here to meet new people lol and this was before I decided to quit

[timber canopy]

Tbf in this economy it's super common

[bleak venture]

Is collage a big thing in America?, I hear a lot of people complain when others dont go to collage. I mean I dont blame her for nit going but then just sitting there doing nothing is weird

[vocal gazelle]

i have a question seriously, i was thinking if i deleted my account i could log into it again? the addiction is getting out of control and i need to get myself together

[pseudo monolith]

definitely

[timber canopy]

College is a big thing in the UK too, people are so shocked when I tell them I didn't want to go

[bleak venture]

No once its deleted its gone

[oblique crypt]

if you delete your account its completely gone. You can't just log back in.

[pseudo monolith]

she graduated from hs before covid

[median token]

college is important because most professional jobs require a degree rather than just a highschool diploma

[sly geyser]

deleted meaning its gone dude

[bleak venture]

So just an American thing...got it

[median token]

not just american, but canadian/uk too

[pseudo monolith]

yeah and there's like a lot of college merches in the us

[timber canopy]

UK job scene so bad you can't even get jobs with college or uni degrees ✌️

[bleak venture]

We have courses which you can do to get certain jobs but you dont need to go to university unless you wanna be a lawyer or anything like that

[median token]

damn thats awful

[median token]

what about for most business jobs? a college/university degree is the minimum for that here

[sly geyser]

kind of similar here. if you want a good job you need college

[pseudo monolith]

ai is replacing entry level jobs 💔

[vocal gazelle]

i kinda feel bad thinking about deleting my account because the bots and other stuff and from other side keeping it making me addicted and it's definitely a horrible thing

[bleak venture]

You can do a business course and if you wanted to do more on that then I think university offers a bit more insite on it

[median token]

you cant even talk to a human for most support things now 😒

[timber canopy]

There are literally just no jobs here, not good ones and absolutely no entry level ones

[median token]

wow, that must be a relief to a lot of people lol

[crude bolt]

I’ll support you!

[sly geyser]

oh damn

[median token]

though i do like the requirement of a degree for qualification purposes

[rancid fjord]

hi guys!

[oblique crypt]

ello!

[bleak venture]

Yeah, I dont know many people who go to university due to how expensive it is and mainly those who do just want an extra education on certain things

[median token]

how much is it??

[pseudo monolith]

i hate when the ai wouldn't answer my question and redirects me to a faq page.... like girl know your place......

[sly geyser]

never let a clanker do a human’s job

[bleak venture]

Depends what your studying tbh and which one you go to, it can range from 15k to 30k i think...

[median token]

i hate that so much 💀 like y'all didn't think i checked there first? then i ask for a human and they hit me with "are you sure? i can help (provides links to faq)"

[vocal gazelle]

aww thanks, the question is should i delete my account? i still hesitate about it

[timber canopy]

I looked at going to a film college even though I'm like 3 years off the age requirement and it's £13,000 for an animation course 🫩

[oblique crypt]

I want to go to a university but it depends on how much I have in my fund by the time I'm a senior :>

[bleak venture]

Absolutely if you think that its gonna help then yes

[median token]

a year or for the whole thing? i think that's around the average for a lot of places if its the whole degree

[sly geyser]

im not sure if i’ll go to college because thats just 4 more years of things ive done before

[pseudo monolith]

in what currency

[bleak venture]

Its for the whole degree, so depends on what you do. Not a lot of people can afford that though. Keep in mind that the economy is absolutely shit rn

[median token]

college is helpful if you want certain jobs, but if you're going into the trades then you might as well get direct experience. i know some people who went straight into blue collar work than a college degree

[bleak venture]

New Zealand dollars

[vocal gazelle]

DONE!

[bleak venture]

Good now delete the app

[median token]

oh. does the government help with that? lots of countries have systems where students are given grants/loans that cover like 80% of that cost

[pseudo monolith]

yeah like if u wanna become a doctor, engineer, or any stem course ngl

[sly geyser]

W

[bleak venture]

Yes, they give you loans that you can pay back.

[oblique crypt]

congrats! Now lemme go delete my account too and uhm delete the browser..

[lunar cipher]

Guys how cooked am i, i have 4 accounts

[vocal gazelle]

now i should look for something else to spend my time on doing

[pseudo monolith]

maybe dont bypass the restrictions x

[bleak venture]

Just go to therapy atp...

[median token]

why do you have 4 😭

[lunar cipher]

Cause one for the type of person im talking to

[bleak venture]

Hm, YouTube videos!

[oblique crypt]

uh .. what the others are saying :>

[pseudo monolith]

what the hell sure

[lunar cipher]

A friend is sees my main
A parent sees the clean one
Etc

[oblique crypt]

Yall can I get some hobby ideas bc most of my hobbies are outdoors ones and uhm it's dark out

[lunar cipher]

No :)

[bleak venture]

You guys get your phones checked..m

[fluid vigil]

I'm not personally giving this app my face to verify age so if it gets rid of me guess I'll see yall around on another app🤷‍♂️

[bleak venture]

Knitting, crochet, sewing

[sly geyser]

dont do weird shit and you wont need 4 accounts

[ivory rivet]

I have two, one for making bots and one just to chat fresh on

[lunar cipher]

Thats 2 less then me

[median token]

i just have one 😭 im too lazy to switch between more than that

[bleak venture]

They are using the same app roblox is using so basically it will automatically delete your face after the age verification

[bleak venture]

No same...😣

[fluid vigil]

Still don't trust that I'm not giving my face to talk to bots not worth it

[bleak venture]

Yeah valid

[crude bolt]

I just deleted my app not my account so when I’m older I can do as I please

That’s my opinion

[bleak venture]

You do that lol

[median token]

too lazy for my own good. its a miracle i got around clearing the old shit i dont use anymore

[vapid geyser]

Does anyone know what's going on with the whole "age verification" thing?

[vocal gazelle]

i will just work on my drawing skills since an eleven years old child has a better drawing skills than me

[bleak venture]

well, at least you have something to do

[crude bolt]

I probably won’t if all goes well I was just giving advice lol

[lunar cipher]

LET ME VERIFY THING-A-MOBOB

[bleak venture]

Yeah, I dont see the app lasting past 2027

[crude bolt]

HAHA

[vapid geyser]

The verification wants a photo of your government ID... Does anyone else think that's weird af?

[bleak venture]

LOL its already flopping as it is

[rustic pecan]

The app is going to be fine. Minors aren’t the majority of users.

[bleak venture]

No?, its a normal verification

[vocal gazelle]

nah i did that once and guess what? i redownloaded it in the next hour so i just deleted the whole account to catch up with my reality and spend more time with my family and friends instead of facing my phone 24 hours

[crude bolt]

I got a similar thing from google

[proper oyster]

When minors can’t chat anymore will they be able to still access personas or do I need to put all of them in a notes app?

[crude bolt]

Fair fair

[median token]

you still have access to your old chats iirc, you just cant send new messages

[bleak venture]

LOL really?, crazy im praying on this apps downfall after they changed the perfect UI they had

[lunar cipher]

Loud incorrect buzzer gif

[vapid geyser]

I just don't get WHY they need a verification at all. Let alone personal information to chat with completely fictional characters

[proper oyster]

So i will have access to personal information and old chats?

[bleak venture]

So minors dont get an addiction to an AI character, they have had lawsuits over this.

[crude bolt]

Yea google asked for my id and I was seventeen and had that account for like ever

[median token]

yup, you can see old messags. you just can't send new ones

[silent onyx]

i don't know why there's a huge misconception that minors are the majority of users on cai

[rustic pecan]

the CEO gave numbers. And why would they kick the majority off willingly???

[proper oyster]

Thanks!

[bleak venture]

Weird?, I've never been asked for ID by Google

[vapid geyser]

I think this is kind of stupid, tbh

[crude bolt]

I would show a picture but can’t here

[bleak venture]

Yeah i think you need c.ai plus for that

[crude bolt]

😂

[rustic pecan]

The CEO literally said it’s up to like 30% minors. They’re not gonna just be like “yeah let’s kick off most of our users for funsies lol”

[median token]

plus, i doubt most of those minor uses are paying for cai+ lol, and even if the site gets ad revenue from them, they can go without

[crude bolt]

Alright yall im gonna go to bed yall try to have a good day/night

[grim fable]

People obviously didn't put their real age💔

[bleak venture]

Most of the characters aren't even PG btw!, a lot of them involve things kids shouldn't be reading

[pseudo monolith]

isnt there like 10% of the users reported as minors

[vapid geyser]

I've had my accounts for years, now I won't be able to even use them anymore because I'm not giving a website personal information??

[bleak venture]

Who would LOL?

[grim fable]

Def not me lmao

[rustic pecan]

10% were honest. The rest lied and got caught.

[bleak venture]

Couldn't catch me doing that

[pseudo monolith]

alr ty

[pulsar cedar]

I find it humorous how many minors bring statistics stating "80% of the app is minors", and then when asked where they got said statistics they have no argument. Honestly, this is only magnifying the fact this is a change that should have been made ages ago.

[rustic pecan]

I put my real age bc I have no reason not to do so? Lmao? They can track my info anyway idc.

[rustic pecan]

Riiiiiight???

[median token]

me too, plus my google subscription is connected so they already know who i am

[grim fable]

And they should be aware of that, I feel like they should've just made an under 18 option instead of just kicking them off the app entirely

[bleak venture]

I've heard more adults using this apps then kids 😭

[tulip herald]

Hey guys, I have a question, when I want to get the free 3 day trial for ultra on my phone it takes me to google pay and shows the full price as if Ill pay it. Is that normal?

[vapid geyser]

That would be better, probably. Like "parental controls" on other apps

[bleak venture]

Yeah but then again they have gotten lawsuits so its better just to make the app 18 plus

[median token]

there is an under-18 experience, it just doesn't include chats

[rustic pecan]

They did. Minors can do anything on fhe app that’s not chatting.

[pulsar cedar]

In my opinion, they should have made this change from the very first incident (correct me if I'm wrong, it was in 2024, wasn't it?)

[vapid geyser]

But isn't that the entire point of the app?

[bleak venture]

Yeah but they are slow...I swear they are run by some weird ass bot who is like 10 years late on media

[lunar cipher]

Yes.

[rustic pecan]

2024 yeah. I fuuuuully agree with you.

[grim fable]

I was meaning like make it so bot creators have to select if it's for 18+ or under 18

[vapid geyser]

The entire point of character.ai is to CHAT with bots. So why even bother with it if you can't do the main function

[lunar cipher]

Its like going to a bar and ordering milk

[median token]

yeah, but there are other features. they are just following the law and protecting themselves by restricting the chat function until people are old enough

[silent onyx]

you kids do realize that they have to do this because it's the law, right??

[bleak venture]

Kids dont care 😣

[vapid geyser]

Yeah, ig, but what about the people who are uncomfortable sharing personal information to an app/website??

[grim fable]

They know, there was definitely a better way to do it tho

[median token]

then that's rough 🤷‍♂️

[bleak venture]

I miss talking to Disney characters ☹️

[silent onyx]

it doesn't matter if there's "better ways", the law specifically stated that they have to add age verification

[vapid geyser]

I completely agree. There could've been a much better solution

[inner flume]

oh thank god they're kicking out under 18s I've been waiting for this since the early days. I've always thought about the lawsuits they'd be getting, I'm just surprised and sad it took this long and this much

[bleak venture]

I swear they are run by a bot thats one year late on every event

[grim fable]

I'm not saying that they didn't need to add verification, I totally agree with that... But I feel like instead of kicking them off they could've figured smthing else out

[bleak venture]

C.ai needs new AI obviously

[timber canopy]

The law said no chatbots for under 18s

[silent onyx]

not with all the lawsuits happening, they couldn't

[rustic pecan]

They’re prioritizing minor safety. They said as much.

[ivory rivet]

I deleted C.ai, hoping I don't download it again :,)