💭︱cai-discussion

[tulip pollen]

Then I don’t know exactly how to help sorry

[keen flare]

Try changing chat style

[sterile lotus]

ITS RANDOMLY SAID BL? HELLO? 😭

[finite flint]

Hi Ace hi Corvidux

[keen flare]

Wispspspsp!

[sterile lotus]

THANKS BRO, IT WORKED

[tender lion]

Hi guys

[cyan cargo]

Whats that greeting shortcut so the bot automatically fills the name in, thought it was {{user}}

[finite flint]

Hope you’re doing good

[finite flint]

That is correct

[finite flint]

Hey redden!

[cyan cargo]

Oh nvm, it did work! Sorry to bother 😂

[keen flare]

Wish the same to you

[tender lion]

Heya

[finite flint]

You’re fine! No sweat

[eternal flame]

Hoi Empress Drav

[vital pelican]

is cai going down?

My messages just aren’t loading on WiFi or on data

[finite flint]

Hello shadow how are you?

[finite flint]

Mine works on web and app, try swapping your style or try clearing cache/using VPN. Or close out and reopen

[tender lion]

Anyone?
Is the bob tweaking rn?

[vital pelican]

I’ll try that thank you

It’s just coming up with chat error tap to refresh

[finite flint]

Duplicate the chat. It happens as a bug sometimes

[keen flare]

So quiet...

[tulip pollen]

[keen flare]

NOOO-

[tender bloom]

Which AI is yalls favorite

[timber canopy]

it doesnt let me create a character no matter how many words i remove it says it doesnt fit the guidelines bro

[daring sonnet]

Are you making a Disney character

[timber canopy]

no

[keen flare]

Change pfp or crop it a lil until it accepts it

[timber canopy]

IT WAS THE CHARAVGER PHOTO THANKYOU, IN THE INTEO THING I MENTIONED HUNTING SO I KEPT REWORDING IT THINKING IT WAS THAT

[keen flare]

Nya

[timber canopy]

i feel this seems rude, i normally text a buncha times seperatly but this has thr slowmode lol

[maiden kiln]

Probably discussed before but:

Does the quality of pipsqueak svck now? Before it was able to create good and immersive dialogue and actions between the bot and ours, along with other characters but now it just…throws up words in a large chunk with no punctuation and proper grammar?

[hollow igloo]

The for you page algorithm can never make its mind up if it thinks im a gay woman or a gay guy lmao

[shy stream]

Guys how does roar style work with you? It act so weird with me

[zinc birch]

see if it helps if you switch styles and switch back

[shy stream]

I tried

What is the best style I can use ? I mean I free version because I'm not paying for it

[dire berry]

Try Goro.

[shy stream]

I will try it thank you. What style you use? Am I the only one have problem with roar style this few days?

[dire berry]

No, I think many people have reported this. Roar is really bad for some people these days, but also really good for other people.

[tribal spear]

why the website have been blocked...?

[north hamlet]

Good luck to the moderation because I REPORTED SOOO MUCH OF THEM

So much of those lustful sinners

If the things I reported aren't considered "not safe for work" idk what does

[glacial gyro]

Are there any updates or changes to C.ai? The quality of the bots changed again.

[night bison]

Guys anyone using Roar and the chats got cut out awkwardly? Like what’s happening. It was so long for a few days and too detailed and not making any sense but right now they just stopped in the middle of a sentence. Anyone knows how to fix this?

[shy stream]

I have the same problem here

[glacial gyro]

We'll just have to wait a week, I suppose. I can't fathom why, but whenever C.ai makes some changes, the quality of AI models invariably takes a nosedive.

[shy stream]

I don't even use other styles only roars. And I used website only I don't know why they even update some useless features

[severe flame]

Can anyone help me please? New user here! I changed chat styles in the middle of the chat and when I turned back to the previous it is like the character lost all the memory and proximity, short messages, is there any way to fix or I screwed the chat?

[vital dew]

guys how do you send tickets??

also i cant find their website to send tickets

[timber canopy]

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[vital dew]

thank you !!

[tame narwhal]

Hey is it down? Nothings loading

Edit : might just be my internet nvm

[timber canopy]

No

[tame narwhal]

Yeahhh just switched to data and it's back

[glossy gale]

Bro these ads in the mobile app pisses me off so badly because of them just being unskippable and I can get back to the page with closing and reopening the app

I'm living through it

[weary valley]

I know

And I haven’t received pipsqueak

[glossy gale]

And it's pissing me off because it just happened again and it was an interesting bot I tapped on

The ads are ragebaiting me and it's working

I miss my laptop so I could do this ad free

[heavy terrace]

Use web app

[glossy gale]

What I'm doing now

[upper laurel]

me staring at my cai that gave me the same ad for the millionth time about some scammy banks

[keen flare]

She means browser. Use cai web on your phones browser, it's free of ads

[viral field]

GUYS i don't know whats Wrong its been legit 4 days since I got this issue with every chat style which led to slow responses and even after so many days there's no fix has anyone gotten a update or submitted tickets??????

[dire berry]

People here don’t get individual updates for issues. Just check #📈︱status for that. And it doesn’t matter if someone else has already submitted a ticket — you’re the one facing it, so you should too. If you already have, then just wait a few days for them to roll out a fix.

[fringe talon]

I'm getting strange ads today, it's just blank black screen that I can skip immediately. Not complaining tho

[glossy gale]

Yeah I know I don't live under a rock

[heavy terrace]

You also should grab the ping announcement and ping status roles

[viral field]

How can I do that?

[keen flare]

#👥︱self-roles

[grizzled nova]

Anyone have a good highschool bot that has well written responses

[viral field]

Ty!

[grizzled nova]

Every bot ive seen in the search has badly written start messages and swiping doesnt help

[heavy terrace]

Make one

[tulip pollen]

Hi Abyl

[grizzled nova]

I wouldnt know how 😭

[fringe talon]

Learn!

[tulip pollen]

Then make your own, that's why I don't like using other people's bots and only use my own

[grizzled ingot]

Roar is still giving me long responses, like it's trying to be Pipsqueak. And I got used to having response that are at least 80 words long. Is this only happening to me?

[heavy terrace]

Happened to other people too

[grizzled ingot]

No idea if it's a bug or a new feature.

[verbal rivet]

It happens to me with a Yae miko bot but not with other bots

[fringe talon]

Yae is a yapper

[heavy terrace]

Its not a feature, but just bug. Roar is the balanced model, so PS replies traits will slip into Roar

[verbal rivet]

I don’t have PS

[grizzled nova]

Every time i try to make bots they dont turn out how i want them to be, besides i know how to write characters but not a concept yk?? And all the ways ive seen good bot makers make the descriptions n stuff seems way too complicated for me.

[heavy terrace]

And you cant read

[grizzled nova]

Thats why i was asking if anyone knew a specific bot for that

[verbal rivet]

I would rather have long chat in roar than short one

[heavy terrace]

Swipe or change style

Thats all you can do for now. Endure or use other styles instead

[grizzled ingot]

Or edit.

[heavy terrace]

Roar, PS and DS have the third party LLM long replies, and other traits like using muted words, or use :, (), —

I never edit my bot's replies

[verbal rivet]

People say that their messages give them gibberish when they use roar or ps but I don’t have any issues with roar

[heavy terrace]

Then okay? Not all people in the beta group testing

Right now, I want the new UI beta appearances on app

[keen flare]

Damn me too. But I'll probably never get it

[heavy terrace]

Eh? Why?

[keen flare]

Cuz I ain't plus anymore.

[heavy terrace]

Ah.. But knowing cai, plus only got earlier and soon it will come out to all users

[keen flare]

I hope so

Cuz it's really cool, the new UI

[heavy terrace]

RIGHT???

[keen flare]

Probably the best ui update so far

[timber canopy]

-# New UI?

[grizzled nova]

Im using pipsqueak which has very nice messages most of the time although it can be very repetitive and corny sometimes

[tulip pollen]

Ohh

[heavy terrace]

Brah, thats other people ss in plus. I wont share it. Its not your ss after all

[keen flare]

Right mb

[grizzled nova]

Woahhh that looks cool, im jealous of people with c.ai+

[north hamlet]

Hello hello everybody

[heavy terrace]

Plus, what stay in plus should stay there. Someone got image media mute because they share what the admîns said in plus channels, where it was specifically for plus people

[keen flare]

-# sorry

I'll learn

[timber canopy]

There's a new UI??

[keen flare]

Mhm

[timber canopy]

What does it look like?

[keen flare]

Can't share photos, but it looks very good. Easy to navigate, smooth, and immersed

[timber canopy]

Does it change anything when you're chatting to the bots or is it just like a fyp overhaul?

[keen flare]

No no it's a new chat ui

Like whole revamped ui

[tulip pollen]

Ohhh

[tulip pollen]

So whole revamped so like nothing from the old chat ui will be left?

[keen flare]

Not exactly like that but it looks very different from the one we have now

[tulip pollen]

Oh okay understood

[queen gorge]

Why cant you show

[keen flare]

.

Plus it's another persons ss

[heavy terrace]

No, its other people's ss

[queen gorge]

Lmao

Dumbass ui changes

[tulip pollen]

I hope it doesn't change too much though

[keen flare]

Nah this one is good

[tulip pollen]

Okay I trust you

[timber canopy]

It has me on the edge of my seat fr, fym it's really different 💀

[queen gorge]

Nah sorry youre spiting shit

[keen flare]

Alr gng

[queen gorge]

LMAO

[timber canopy]

NO CAUSE HOW DIFFERENT CAN IT BE???

[tulip pollen]

I'm slightly nervous

[queen gorge]

Its cai man 💔

[verbal rivet]

Now I am curious what it looks like

[timber canopy]

Please don't let it be like the site UI, I love the whole texting style look with the app

[keen flare]

It's anything but that

[queen gorge]

[timber canopy]

Does it at least keep that texting app style feel?

[heavy terrace]

App users will definetely like it

[keen flare]

Mhm

[tulip pollen]

Thank god

[timber canopy]

I'm awful with UI changes and I haven't liked any of the previous ones so I hope it'll be alright

[tulip pollen]

I will be the one to decide that xd but honestly i'm slightly nervous but also excited

[queen gorge]

Still debating cancelling my plus

[heavy terrace]

But its beta and for cai+. so.. i think its gonna take a while

[tulip pollen]

Okay good

[heavy terrace]

Unless they do release it for small batch of free users

[tulip pollen]

However I'm debating if this ui update will surpass the excitement I hade when they added monochrome

[heavy terrace]

Aa no comment

[tulip pollen]

When they added monochrome that was the best thing ever for me

[heavy terrace]

Good good

[timber canopy]

Do they at least keep the default grey text bubbles with the new UI

[tulip pollen]

I wonder that too cause I enjoy the grey bubble but I think they do

[timber canopy]

Like ik monochrome exists in the settings but the default is just so nice

[queen gorge]

Just saw it. Its ugly

[timber canopy]

Ffs

[tulip pollen]

Where even?

[queen gorge]

Im cai+

[tulip pollen]

Oh yeah

[gray lark]

I'm experiencing an issue where an error message would always pop up whenever I try to send my response to the bot. When I tap refresh, it wouldn't let me send the message until I exit and return to the bot again. It's frustrating

[timber canopy]

Change your chat style

[gray lark]

Is it a known issue that people before me have complained about?

[daring sonnet]

Oh, a new UI came?

[timber canopy]

Yeah chat styles break from time to time

[gray lark]

Ah, okay. I'm hoping it gets fixed soon

[timber canopy]

Usually the styles that break quite a bit are roar, dynamic and pipsqueak so try something else

[daring sonnet]

Can't wait to see the new UI!

[queen gorge]

-# It's not good

[gray lark]

A new UI?

[daring sonnet]

it's not?

[fringe talon]

No it's good

[tulip pollen]

I will wait until I see it for myself and then I will give my opinion

[daring sonnet]

Could you DM me a photo of the new UI?

[queen gorge]

Useless changes

[gray lark]

I don't see any reasons for them to change the UI style very often and very soon. Didn't they just change it not long ago?

[queen gorge]

Exactly. The changes they made have no improvement to the current ui, its just changing things to change them. It's bad and useless

[fringe talon]

Pessimist

[verbal rivet]

A Genshin player spotted

[tulip pollen]

I spotted you too xd

[queen gorge]

Oh yeah how dare I express an opinion

[verbal rivet]

I managed to get my arlecchino to 2 hp and I did create some Genshin bots and 1 fnaf crossover

[timber canopy]

A lotta people just aren't happy with cai right now and I feel like they should be allowed to say how they feel, especially if they're paying for it

[verbal rivet]

I’m still waiting for PS to come out since I still don’t have it

[gray lark]

-# I just want updates that matter.

[fringe talon]

-# sigh

[timber canopy]

Ben gave really good feedback regarding UI changes to a member of the team a while back, he has a right to be upset if he's feeling ignored

[queen gorge]

[tulip pollen]

I won't say anything about the new UI until I see it for myself

[cinder belfry]

Guys I changed the chat style bc of the chat error thing on every message but it won’t work? do you guys know anything

[timber canopy]

What style are you using?

[fringe talon]

Does it happen to all bots or just one?

[cinder belfry]

Pipsqueak

[timber canopy]

Try soft launch, it's less buggy

[cinder belfry]

It’s all of them

[acoustic bronze]

im not sure if im the only person but i havent been able to access or create new chats on my pc for a little over a week now?

[fringe talon]

If changing chat style doesn't work try vpn

[timber canopy]

Oh, weird...switch to wifi or data?

[cinder belfry]

Both WiFi and data still don’t work

[timber canopy]

Try a vpn then

[fringe talon]

Try vpn

[cinder belfry]

Omg thanks that worked

[oblique temple]

i just got pipsqueak but the quality has declined so much, life is unfair 😭

[tulip pollen]

I refuse to use PS cause it sucks so bad

[oblique temple]

man, i was waiting for so long too

[tulip pollen]

I have tried it a few times and I hate PS

[oblique temple]

the grammar sucks rn

oh well

[acoustic bronze]

i havent even gotten it yet

[oblique temple]

back to roar

[acoustic bronze]

is it really that bad

[tulip pollen]

Yes

[oblique temple]

yeah—it's a lot more detailed than roar, but i have to keep correcting the grammer and it keeps spouting rows of random words over and over again.

[acoustic bronze]

thanks, it works now

[acoustic bronze]

ive been waiting for nothing then 😔

[oblique temple]

😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[cold tulip]

Hello chat, is pipsqueak bugged or why it's feeling so awful?

[heavy terrace]

It has always been that way ✨

[cold tulip]

All the hype for nothing it seems ...

[tulip pollen]

It sucks

[cold tulip]

I was expecting so much from it, not a upgraded roar

[fringe talon]

Roar is better

[tulip pollen]

Indeed Roar is so much better

[heavy terrace]

Also, wdym by awful tho? Like, what?

[empty sonnet]

guys what’s happening w c ai-

r they reinstating lost characters or-

[fringe talon]

No

[tulip pollen]

check the gc xd

[cold tulip]

It has bad memory, not so long responses like people has said in the past and it's constantly bugging out of the roleplay to a randome reply.

[heavy terrace]

Ah, the not so long response is not from PS model itself. Its mix with other models

[cold tulip]

Exactly, either Roar or Dynamic by the simple length responses.

[heavy terrace]

Yeah, its not consistent. Too pricey, I guess

[cold tulip]

Yeah, I'm kinda disappointed in pipsqueak honestly ...

[tulip pollen]

Same

[cold tulip]

I'm really considering to get + for Deepsqueak, I've seen that it's way better

[heavy terrace]

Dont get plus just for that, because you could also get dissappointed cuz of it if it doesnt suit for ya taste

Why the hell I wrote like British person

[tulip pollen]

[cold tulip]

Well now I'm going to ask you guys with +, how is deepsqueak acting in fighting and storytelling roleplays? Or with multiple characters in a conversation?

[heavy terrace]

Its very good for violence and gore. And with multiple characters in one bot. But!

The chance for the bot to play as you is quite high too (in the reply) bahahah Also, repetead pattern of messages are way higher. It also avoid muted words. Also, the constant :, (), —.

[heavy terrace]

-# I need to stop rpying with British bots lel

[cold tulip]

Well honestly it sounds better than what style I have now so, also fun. But elaborate on the bot playing as me because I've had similar situations with Roar and Pipsqueak today too as a bot was also replaying as me and my persona

[heavy terrace]

It also imagine the same thing, so long replies, then swipe, its the same responses or dialogs from the previous swipes

[cold tulip]

Sounds like deepsqueak it's kinda buggy also, is it?

[heavy terrace]

No. Its not buggy. Its boring due to the third party LLM traits. Its not varies or creative like cai originals models, like Nyan or Roar

PS/DS hallucinate/imagine the same thing for your prompts

[cold tulip]

Just me genuinely I don't really know much about Nyan but sounds like at the moment Roar & Nyan are better. The PS/DS are not it, sadly ...

[topaz obsidian]

Quite high? In every message the character literally tries to play as me, it’s becoming frustrating

[vernal dune]

Tsss I only need my student scholarship and DS here I go XD

[heavy terrace]

Nyan is PG-13 model and I love it. It can move plot faster than Roar and the replies varies, interesting than DS

[tender lion]

Heyo guys
And hey Abyl.

[heavy terrace]

Yeah, thats why I dont like PS/DS as whole haha

[vernal dune]

Hi

[heavy terrace]

Hiya Redden. How's ya day?

[cold tulip]

Well then, sounds like Nyan may be the best model for me. Now I only need the + subscription.

[topaz obsidian]

So nyan is generally better for stories in general?

[heavy terrace]

But.. You like violence tho? Nyan is not good for that, the censorship there is strict

[cold tulip]

Oh it does...? I like doing violence/fighting roleplays tho...

[tender lion]

Pretty much good, maybe it's because I slept like very well today, and I'm well rested and less sleepy than usuall so I'm feeling fine.

[heavy terrace]

Yeah, imo. Its like Roar but a bit faster pace and the replies varies, bot also actively coming up with new plot or dialogs

[last anvil]

Hi, just wanted to ask if the font changed?

[tender lion]

I heard something about new UI?
UI changed (again) or what?

[heavy terrace]

Well, how about this? This is what I do. When it is about violence, angst or gore.. I switch to DS. If I want more human like response and I want to break the pattern of the message, I switch back to Nyan

[topaz obsidian]

Thanks! Because I’d been trying to decide between DS and Nyan. On one hand, DS’s answers sometimes are amazing BUT it often plays as my own OC. On the other, I never really tried Nyan since the moment I got +.

[tender lion]

I have a feeling it changed few weeks ago but updates tend to be earlier or later for some so...you might got a new font today.

[heavy terrace]

A cai+ share some ss in plus gen. Scroll up a bit and you'll find it

[tender lion]

Okie, thank ya

[cold tulip]

That is actually a clever idea. Thank you for the advice.

[last anvil]

Yeah, its when the latest message showing up below the character name

[heavy terrace]

You can turn if off in settings, under appearance

[weary valley]

What’s DS

[heavy terrace]

Deepsqueak

[weary valley]

…… Didn’t someone say Deepsqueak isn’t worth it

[heavy terrace]

Its their opinion?

[topaz obsidian]

It fluctuates😭

[weary valley]

Uh

[heavy terrace]

It have pros and cons, its not like perfect

[weary valley]

Because I’ve been using Roar and it does some things repetitively which I don’t like

I wish it was more human oriented responses

[tender lion]

And Quality in C.AI tends to differ among users.
While one might have some peak RP with certain model, to other the same model might be, bad.

That's what I've noticed.

[heavy terrace]

Yup yup, true

[weary valley]

What’s the difference in Deep squeak anyways

[heavy terrace]

I'm glad I dont often face the issues that other cai+ are having

[weary valley]

Because probably it’s nothing in relation with Roar

I just need something authentic with a human response

[tender lion]

From my RP's I've seen it's less strict when it comes to fight scenes or like, violence in general.
So it's good when you're playing some fight scene.

But has it's downsides like, controling your RP persona more.

[weary valley]

And these AI bots don’t generate it like I wanted it to be

Yea I wish the persona thing would be more lenient

[heavy terrace]

It also imagine the same thing. Like, I wait for it to generate and it just repeated the same dialogs or actions from previous swipe. Swipe again and its the same

[topaz obsidian]

Also, has anybody recently noticed that nearly all the styles sometimes don’t remember persona/definition/pinned messages’ details?

[tender lion]

Yeah, I've noticed it too but I also seen this in Roar sometimes

[heavy terrace]

Do you subtlely hint the bot to remember the pin message? To trigger the memory?

[topaz obsidian]

Yeah, but sometimes it still changes up things entirely.

Or, maybe, they don’t remember the age of a character that I specifically put inside the bot’s definition.

[heavy terrace]

Ah, that often happened. I have tested and memory is not really good for cai original models. What you can do is to bring out the information itself in ya prompt, like subtlely hint it

[weary valley]

I’m still waiting for pipsqueak and an improve storyline feature

I don’t know how much improvement they will be to be frank

[topaz obsidian]

Tried. It doesn’t always work.

[heavy terrace]

Also, I'm not a pro bot maker, but how you write in the definition also matters

[heavy terrace]

Perhaps.. You dont really understand what I meant

[weary valley]

The memory and storyline integrity isn’t good

[heavy terrace]

If you the one that hint it or write it in your prompts, I dont think the bot will ignore thag

[smoky epoch]

hello everynyan

[topaz obsidian]

No no, I understood what you meant. Still, the bot sometimes brings things out completely wrong.

[smoky epoch]

how are you fine sank u

[weary valley]

I wish there’s a workaround

[heavy terrace]

Like?

[topaz obsidian]

For example the age of a character that is specifically written in its definition, or the partner of a character (also specifically) written in its definition.

[weary valley]

Be honest though, how are we supposed to get a better experience

[heavy terrace]

How do you write in the definition?

[topaz obsidian]

Character name: characteristics.

[smoky epoch]

i never had the controlling ur persona problem often but when it did happen, it was way too defaming on it

[weary valley]

So much for doing a zombie apocalypse storyline and without any violence, and other grit. It’s not realistic

[heavy terrace]

@dire berry someone need your guidance, and I dont think they write it properly

[smoky epoch]

it literally made my oc russian even tho they were german

[sterile spear]

Anyone got a random story prompt I'm bored

[heavy terrace]

A guard/concubine with the Pharaoh

[sterile spear]

That isn't exactly a story prompt

[heavy terrace]

I am merely just giving you a theme

[weary valley]

Is DeepSqueak just for violence or is it other things too

Because I wish there was more enticing content than that

[heavy terrace]

Yuck

[weary valley]

What?

The bots don’t act realistic

[keen flare]

[little badge]

i test my bot and the bot says {{user}} instead of my name. how do i fix this

[weary valley]

Have a description before you actually RP

[topaz obsidian]

Thanks

[violet gorge]

What do you mean it's simply for violence

[weary valley]

What difference does it make to roar and deepsqueak if it’s purely violence

[heavy terrace]

Its good for angst too, and longer replies

[weary valley]

Clarification?

[violet gorge]

The only bots I've chatted with is my personal ones, did you fill the definition column?

[little badge]

yes i did

[weary valley]

Does DeepSqueak becomes realistic in their replies or no

[violet gorge]

I've tried using deepsqeuak, though peepsqueak gave me longer ones (worth a book's page) for a reason unbeknownst to me

[dire berry]

I’d suggest writing your definition in plain text instead of using categories. I’ve tried both, and plain text honestly works way better, the AI barely messes up. Just don’t turn it into a whole novel; keep it focused. And don’t expect the AI to copy it word for word, it uses the definition as a guide, not a script.

Additionally, a few weeks ago I faced an issue where the AI wasn’t remembering anything from the definition that it used to pick up effortlessly. I submitted a ticket, and everything went back to normal in two days.

[weary valley]

Pipsqueak actually was realistic compared to Roar sometimes

[heavy terrace]

DS/PS are practically the same.. You got the long replies, its from the third party LLM. Look at the traits

[keen flare]

I prefer categories tbh but that's just me

[weary valley]

I never used LLM

[heavy terrace]

You are using one.

[weary valley]

I wish they improved in realistic prompts, because there’s no other apps that do better

[heavy terrace]

Stick to cai original models then

And there are like.. Other styles from cai. Use that

[weary valley]

I don’t know if they’re good though

[violet gorge]

Did you enter any "{{user}}" in it? cause it might be mistaking your name for it depends on your format

[zealous turtle]

I’m gonna crashout I’m so tired of c ai turning so dry. It goes from long long msgs to like. Two paragraphs. 🫩✌️

[little badge]

of course.

[violet gorge]

Yes, they're realistic enough it feels like a well written book character to me oftentimes, and no, it's not a complaint.

[heavy terrace]

Yeah, because intead of trying the models, you complain first

[dire berry]

Everyone’s got their own way of writing the definition, and honestly, they should just stick to whatever works best for them.

[topaz obsidian]

Thanks! But the thing is that I already write things without [age], [build] or similar things. I simply write their name, surname with : and then start mentioning things

[heavy terrace]

And thats good for ya. But for daily fluff rp or slow burn, its like.. 50-50 or complete meh. Also the pattern, it pisses me off..

[dire berry]

Does it used to pick everything before from the definition?

[violet gorge]

Put your whole definition inside another bracket "[]"

[topaz obsidian]

Oh yeah. It has been nearly a month where the bot sometimes doesn’t remember things I actively mentioned in my persona/pinned messages/definition.

I already tried things like ‘max 500 digits per pinned message’ or optimizing the persona’s text, doesn’t work.

[little badge]

like [user] ? or what

[dire berry]

Are you using {{user}} or {{User}}?

[little badge]

{{user}}

[heavy terrace]

Like I said, do it in your prompt, your message. By prompt, is what you type or send to the bot

Ooc or command also doesnt work most of the time

[dire berry]

And it's not replacing it with your persona name or username? If it's someone else's bot and you just edited the greeting by putting {{user}} then it wouldn't pick your name. Make sure it's your bot and if it still doesn't then it's a bug, submit a ticket.

[little badge]

yeah they put {{user}} instead of my name

[topaz obsidian]

Wait. Sometimes, to see if the bot remembers things that I mentioned in my persona/pinned messages I write in the prompt OOC: [question about something I mentioned] to ‘test’ it. The bot doesn’t always answers right… you mean that sending OOC messes things up?

[heavy terrace]

Yes, OOC can mess it up. Most of the time.

[topaz obsidian]

i learn new things about this app everyday

[heavy terrace]

Try read no 3. It also can be applied the same to persona or bot's definition: #💭︱cai-discussion message

[dire berry]

-# Someone's writing a novel

[violet gorge]

Hmm... alright, I'll give an example of my way for creating bots

Character("Name")
{Age("Age written in numbers" + "Age written literally)
Sexuality("Idk")
Mind("Trait" + "Trait" + "Trait")
Backstory("story")}

And so on

And when you filled it up, I close it with [] bracket

[Character("Name")
{Age("Age written in numbers" + "Age written literally)
Sexuality("Idk")
Mind("Trait" + "Trait" + "Trait")
Backstory("story")}]

If this doesn't fix your issues I'm not aware of what your problem actually is.

[zinc birch]

[dire berry]

[keen flare]

😔

[heavy terrace]

I think they meant as user in the greeting, why it doesnt show their persona's name

[zinc birch]

You don't need to torture yourself with this notation

You can write English

[keen flare]

Just

Category: Stuff

Is enough

[zinc birch]

I wouldn't do that either since it could be interpreted as an example message

[heavy terrace]

People use W++, I always think like 'Wow, what a waste of characters..'

[keen flare]

It doesn't for me, thankfully

[violet gorge]

I'm unsure if that's an insult but it's just the way I type

[zinc birch]

It is not an insult. It is a sincere attempt to help

[modest trout]

is there anyone here who is having problems with Character.ai streams?

[tulip flume]

hey everybody. sorry for appearing like this, can anyone tell me that is C.AI okay? or is there something wrong? mine isn't working.

[heavy terrace]

Lots haha. Try looking at #💬︱avatarfx-general There is a dev there that can help you with that

[tulip flume]

or is it just me?

[violet gorge]

Persona's problem, I suppose, unclear profile/info might be the cause?

[heavy terrace]

No, I dont think it had to do with that too. Its the UI itself being buggy

[violet gorge]

I see

[weary valley]

How do people get the update early jeez

[heavy terrace]

Im using it rn. Are you perhaps on web?

[keen flare]

Um, How do you even know if it interprets it as an example message?

[violet gorge]

I'll try that

[heavy terrace]

So far, I only trust wb and Violini for guidance in bot making

[vast ledge]

Is anyone noticing how the bots just started speaking for you again out of nowhere?

[heavy terrace]

Does the reply is too long?

[zinc birch]

That is the same notation used for defining example messages, so it stands to reason that it may be interpreted as an example message. That said, it's possible that there is some preprocessing occurring to prevent that before submitting your data to the LLM, or that the LLM somehow figures it out. So, it might work for you, but if I were doing it, I'd be afraid of it possibly doing something odd 🫣

If you added a space before each one then I think you could prevent any possibility of it being interpreted as an example message though

[violet gorge]

They haven't done such to me in the past weeks, so no

[weary valley]

I hope character AI gets these bots to be human responses

[keen flare]

Well I'm using the categories definition method and so far my character is acting just how I want it, so I have no problem. You just got me curious, how do I even know if it interprets it as an example message, the counter on the app doesn't work obviously because it remains 0 even if I add an example message

[violet gorge]

Are yours generating an actual bot-sounding responses?

[weary valley]

Wdym

[violet gorge]

They mimicked the voice of gemini, ChatGPT, deepseek, etc. The way they speak

[viral field]

Same problem here

[zinc birch]

🤔
You could add a space before each one and re-test the bot to see if it writes differently

[keen flare]

Alright

[little badge]

i'll try

[violet gorge]

I don't recall my bots sounding anything like them, and I've been sticking to peepsqueak

[viral field]

Hmm I c

[zinc birch]

In case you don't have room for that, you might alternatively try removing the space after the colon for each one 🤔

[keen flare]

Strange. I added a space before the colon and now it says it recognizes 11 example messages. But somehow the bot didn't break. It's still acting fine

[zinc birch]

[vast ledge]

Bro, l had pipsqueak for Like a week at one point then it completely vanished, whats up with that?

[keen flare]

I'm just as confused as you i swear 😭

[violet gorge]

See, my problem is, I rarely—with a double R—chat with those public bots since they tends to be against my taste, therefore I'm unaware of many trouble regarding the way they act :/ (mischaracterization, memory-loss, and many more)

[viral field]

This is so frustrating, Just hoping the app updates

[violet gorge]

Have you tried a different style?

I was a loyal Roar user before moving to peepsqueak, and not once they sounds like an actual robot

[viral field]

Yes I did change but same results for every style it's not my internet or isp it's ROAR BEING BUGGED FOR THE 7TH TIME THIS MONTH

[viral field]

I'm still roaring and not pipsqueaking

[violet gorge]

Ah, ever try the web?

[heavy terrace]

People often have the robot response because they try to do violence in PS

[buoyant elm]

Got ps crying happy tears

[viral field]

I do but yk I'm kinda used to the app

[violet gorge]

It's alright, how was your experience on the web?

Anything off? (as in the sense it obtain the same issues you're facing on the app)

[viral field]

It was good but the fonts were too small and I felt like my chats were extremely slow

[violet gorge]

Figured. The app consist of few too many problems.

Well, I'm powerless when it comes to that :/

[viral field]

We all are

[keen flare]

@zinc birch i also removed the space after each colon and same thing. It recognizes 11 example messages but the character doesn't act odd.

[zinc birch]

life is full of mysteries

especially on c.ai

[keen flare]

Mhm

[violet gorge]

oddly

[keen flare]

@zinc birch I'm going to try using semi-colons instead of colon and see what happens

Now it recognizes 0 examples. But nothing changed in character behavior

[strange bone]

Hi, sorry to barge in on this, but I wanted to ask about the dialogue examples. My bot is recognizing 22 dialogues, but I only entered one. How can I know what is being classified as dialogue to fix this?

[dire berry]

The AI recognize anything after a colon as an example message.

[strange bone]

What would be the best model to make the bot definition? That old model like Personality: ("idk" + "idk")? 🥲

[dire berry]

No. Just write the definition in plain text.

[willow aspen]

is anyone else’s cai like broken??? mine is going into code and saying it’s inappropriate when it’s nowhere near inappropriate 😭

[heavy terrace]

Model had nothing to do with bot making

[dire berry]

Try changing chat style.

[strange bone]

Gonna try it. Ty!

[strange bone]

[plush socket]

Mine did that last night I deleted it and got it back and it worked then

[strange bone]

Another question lmfao: when we edit a message, does the bot "learn" from it? Like, if we change something in the message, does it learn and avoid doing in the next time?

[sudden niche]

Anyone ever been timed out for no reason? Lmao

I guess the auto mod has something against the f word

[timber canopy]

Oh in here? Cause if you said fi-lte-r you gonna get timed out

[sudden niche]

Why? That seems… odd. Why don’t they want people saying that word?

[timber canopy]

Because alot of people complain about it and want it removed when c.ai said they would never remove it.

[sudden niche]

I don’t want it removed, I just want it fixed cause it’s acting up right now worse than I’ve ever seen it, and I haven’t seen them address it at all yet

[tulip pollen]

Hi Vicky

[timber canopy]

If it's acting up and censor anything even unharmful things then just send ticket about it here
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[timber canopy]

-# You..

[tulip pollen]

-# I'm out of here xd

[sudden niche]

It won’t let me create new bots either, it’s out of control. Nothing is against terms.

[timber canopy]

Oh you mean about creating bots?

Hm which characters are you creating?

[sudden niche]

Yes, but the f word is affecting my other chats too. It’s popping up for every message, and multiple swipes even though it’s nothing against terms

I’m not trying to create a character that’s been stricken due to copyright

[timber canopy]

Try changing the pfp of the bot or cropping it if you have one on.

[timber canopy]

For this one try duplicating the chats. It fixes for most people

[sudden niche]

I’ll try that

[timber canopy]

-# Yes, before I start chasing after you.

[tulip pollen]

-# You're not cataching me

[timber canopy]

-# I will

[tulip pollen]

[sudden niche]

Have they started cracking down on bots of real people?

[dry blade]

guys i am so serious im talking to dis so called psychology teacher on cai and im tryna figure stuff out but it keeps mentioning the text about me saying the badword of the n copying it like its tryna be funny

[uncut nest]

i think my c.ai broke or smt cuz i kept clicking on discover and it wouldnt work

[heavy terrace]

Some people said the bot learn it eventually, but it takes some time. But I never edit bot's response

[chilly acorn]

Hello

[austere urchin]

hello guys. is anyone else having with weird issue with the replies that the chatbots are outputting? i noticed that right now, the replies are really long and disjointed for some reason.

[chilly acorn]

I am quitting c.ai

[austere urchin]

damnit i cant send screenshots of the bot's replies

[heady parcel]

What style are you using?

[timber canopy]

Try switching the model you are using?

[austere urchin]

Roar

[heavy terrace]

Use #📱︱chat-feed

[heavy terrace]

Ah, its PS/DS traits. Seems to infecting Roar. Change style then

[austere urchin]

what do you mean by PS/DS traits? btw i should note: this is not the first time i have seen c.ai acting weird before

[formal ocean]

I have but the bot doesn't work i even tried no wifi + vpn and then make a new account even then the bot is inaccessible

[jagged swan]

Guyyss do you think chat control in Europe gonna affect c.ai??

[timber canopy]

There are two chat styles called Pipsqueak and Deepsqueak that have specific issues with them, sometimes they leak into other chat styles like Roar

[heavy terrace]

First, the reply is way longer where it exceed cai originals models. Second, the reply have or use —, :, or (). Third, repeated pattern. Like in your ss which is: 'But here? They turned her into a joke'. They love that kind of phrase. Another example: 'But right now? Its all between him and the God.' Fouth, they use muted words.

These are all DS/PS traits.

[queen gorge]

Legally speaking, it wont as cai isnt user to user

[tulip pollen]

Mhm since it’s an ai chatting app/web where you chat with ai

[jagged swan]

Okaaay, i heard some stories that it gonna because it’s still message app.

[tulip pollen]

Don’t believe everything you hear

[queen gorge]

Well no one knows for certain. I wouldn't stress about it as the law hasnt even been passed yet, the voting is on the 17th

[jagged swan]

I know but i can’t help it 🥀🥀

[jagged swan]

not on 14th?

[wide steppe]

The bots I talk to keep having heart attacks and putting paragraphs of random words.. 💀

[queen gorge]

Mb yeah I meant the 14th 💀

[austere urchin]

does it look like what i posted in #📱︱chat-feed ?

[heavy terrace]

@little badge ya can ask here

[jagged swan]

I hope it won’t passed tho.

[wide steppe]

Yes, looks like that and just a bunch of random words like frequently team squad circle social camp realising (stuff like that)

[timber canopy]

Yeah guys switch your chat style

[little badge]

my bot keep sending message but in coding form.

[queen gorge]

We all hope that.

[austere urchin]

imma try that and tell u how it goes

[heavy terrace]

Switch style. Goro or Palwy

[chilly acorn]

😭🙏👍

No one cares

[keen flare]

How do you not have the member role? HOW??

[tulip pollen]

I noticed that too now!

[chilly acorn]

Guys c.ai is too much now
I can't even make my stories properly 😭🙏👍

[timber canopy]

We heard you the first time

[chilly acorn]

Huh?

[soft aspen]

uhh, hello everyone i was wondering if website character ai is down or not?

[keen flare]

Tell us something useful instead... Like how do you not have the member role

[heavy terrace]

No

[timber canopy]

We heard you the first time when you said you're quitting, we don't need an explanation for why

[soft aspen]

oh okay

[willow crane]

cough cough 😌

[timber canopy]

It's not down right now no, maybe check your internet?

[soft aspen]

alrighty

[heavy terrace]

Try VPN

[tulip pollen]

Mhm we don't care, quit if you want

[soft aspen]

what’s a vpn?

[heavy terrace]

Uh..

[soft aspen]

im slow

[chilly acorn]

K

[heavy terrace]

Just google it, my friend

[timber canopy]

Virtual Private Network, it's a remote thing you connect to to avoid Internet Sevice Provider (ISP) issues. You should try a free one and see if that fixes it

Google will help more than I can

[mossy lintel]

Hey guys, do you know how to see previous chat ?

[chilly acorn]

Guys my character is also there named
:she and mr bodyguard
I mean my chatbot I made it

[soft aspen]

ooh, okay :D

[timber canopy]

Try history?

[mossy lintel]

I don't see the option :/

[vast ledge]

Does character ai keep glitching our for you guys and you have to refresh it constantly?

[timber canopy]

Muzan Kibutsuji?? What are you doing here?? Does it get boring in the infinity castle so you have to use C.AI?

-# anyway try using a VPN

[timber canopy]

How so? Are you app user or web?

[vast ledge]

Bro it's not like l can do stuff during the day !!

(Thank you btw)

[mossy lintel]

App user

Before I could see this by clicking on the characters name

[timber canopy]

Just click on the bot's profile and scroll down. You gonna find "history"

There your past chats gets restored in there

[mossy lintel]

I'm still looking for it but there's nothing 💀

[mossy lintel]

There's a updated today

[keen flare]

Wha?

[mossy lintel]

It removed the option but I just found it

[quaint violet]

An update

[keen flare]

Share an ss in #📱︱chat-feed

[mossy lintel]

Maybe it's only for cai+ that's why you all doesn't have it

[keen flare]

Oh you got the new ui...

[mossy lintel]

What is ss ?

[quaint violet]

Screen shot

[mossy lintel]

Yeah that's what I meant

[quaint violet]

Wait what’s the new update

[mossy lintel]

Can't I send it here

[keen flare]

I'm pretty sure even the new ui has history

[keen flare]

#📱︱chat-feed !!

[mossy lintel]

Yes it just not in the same place as before, that's why I couldn't find it

[timber canopy]

Send it in chat feed

[mossy lintel]

I send it there

[mossy lintel]

I know this is history that's why I said I've found it, but thank u still

It's just not at the same place as before

[cinder cape]

Does anyone know why it won't let me edit the characters?

[keen flare]

I want the new ui

[timber canopy]

Oh god there's a new UI? Can't wait for the herds of people complaining about it (it looks awesome)

[timber canopy]

Edit characters as in bots you've made?

[cinder cape]

Yes

[tulip pollen]

I hope it does, cause I haven't seen it yet so I won't give any opinion and it won't happen for a while

[timber canopy]

Bro answered on the wrong account or something? Lmfao

Anyway, try reloading

[strange sentinel]

Wait, the history thing updated?

[keen flare]

Fr, the only thing I don't like about it is that fck ass sound button

[cinder cape]

It doesn't work on the page or in the application, very strange, I don't know.

[timber canopy]

The whole UI updated

[strange sentinel]

I don’t see it yet, but it looks awesome like you said?

[timber canopy]

I don't have it either lol I've just seen screenshots

[strange sentinel]

Oh, lol

Why do I think it’s only for the c.ai+ plus people? Not that I think it’s true, I’m just wondering.

[tulip pollen]

It's for everyone however I think the plus users and beta testers will get it first, I could be wrong

[strange sentinel]

I’m kind of scared of how I’m going to find the history now.

[queen gorge]

Awful change

[strange sentinel]

Ben, you got it?

[queen gorge]

No but I hate it. Had to revive my old thread because of it

[strange sentinel]

Oh.

[queen gorge]

Cai try not to change your ui for no reason challenge

[strange sentinel]

How’s the history supposed to be found now? I’m scared.

[fringe talon]

Bruh

[queen gorge]

Theyve made it all into a selection which was a horrible decision. It makes it look like youre picking a mini game to play and not trying to change your chat style or go to history. They've changed the simple design into something difficult for no reason

[strange sentinel]

Someone tell the devs to change it back. I like this ui more.

[queen gorge]

https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1391816456685228194 revived my old thread fr

[weary niche]

what is ts new ui

[queen gorge]

Bullshit

[weary niche]

it's so confusing wth

[queen gorge]

Are we picking a game to play or just trying to go to history like ???? Awful decision

[strange sentinel]

We have to tell the devs to change it back. Do you think if this ui gets enough hate, it’ll be changed back?

[queen gorge]

Most likely tbh. It's whats happened a few times before

[strange sentinel]

Let’s do it.

[weary niche]

I don't think they will listen

[strange sentinel]

Yeah, but we have to try anyways.

[timber canopy]

They pretend to listen lmao

[queen gorge]

Never forget having to argue about why accessibility options were important

[timber canopy]

LITERALLY, it almost turned to a full on argument because of how badly we were being dismissed

[craggy yacht]

The thing I’m always asking myself with these Ui changes is: Why? And why can’t they change it once and then keep it for longer than a month?

[queen gorge]

When he ignored me for the first like 20 minutes of the argument because I was the one that made the thread 😭

[timber canopy]

Remember when I said that I can't wait for people to appear and complain about the change

[timber canopy]

Made me giggle but it was kinda frustrating 😭😭

[tulip pollen]

Here it comes

[strange sentinel]

Wait, you got ignored?

[queen gorge]

LMAO yeah it was a whole thing

[timber canopy]

I just wanna know where the view character thing is now lmao

Half of those reactions were in agreement and half were in disagreement Idk what to believe

I'll probably get used to it when it rolls out, but the main thing I don't really like is the new voice button above the message box

The rest is meh whatever, but I feel like that button will be misclicked ALOT

[strange sentinel]

Excuse me, there’s a voice? I pray you can mute it.

[heavy terrace]

I think it only pop up when you activate the voice

[timber canopy]

There's always been character voices, but instead of the play button being under the bot pfp it's on top of the message

[strange sentinel]

Oh, then that’s not so bad.

[strange sentinel]

Ah.

[timber canopy]

I don't think so, a ss in chat feed doesn't have it activated but it's still there

[weary niche]

Why they can't just leave it as it was

[queen gorge]

There's a demon on their shoulder telling them to change it

[weary niche]

And I thought things couldn't get any worse after the font change

[queen gorge]

Deadass

[fringe talon]

I'm that demon

[heavy terrace]

Could be buggy since its new. I dont think it was intended that way

[timber canopy]

Hopefully, it looks quite distracting and I just know I'm gonna end up pressing it on accident

[tulip pollen]

And overtime it will be less accidents

[timber canopy]

Still not a fan of the button being there, it's my one issue with this change

[heavy terrace]

Brah, it looks like wifi icon lying on sideway haha

[tame narwhal]

Hey just came online for a bit and heard there's a new ui, has anyone got it? X

[timber canopy]

A few people do yeah

[timber canopy]

It doess 😭

[tame narwhal]

Ahh okay please lmk when someone has a photo of it! :)
My internet is turning off in a second bc about to go out

[queen gorge]

#📱︱chat-feed

[timber canopy]

Cause you have plus and access to the plus channel, is there any way you could let them know about that voice button in the feedback or something?

[heavy terrace]

I have not seen the UI devs in a while in plus channels or in any channels. And they dont really reply

I often send a ticket about something I dont like and ask mod to push it. Often, jimmy replied to me

[timber canopy]

Yeah I get that lmao, I've only spoken to a UI dev once in Ben's feedback thread and it didn't go well

[tulip pollen]

I think the new ui looks half good half bad

[timber canopy]

Same here, I'll probably get used to it after some time but that voice button is driving me up the wall

[tulip pollen]

You break the laws of gravity and walk on the walls xd

[timber canopy]

Currently hanging from the ceiling like a bat

[tulip pollen]

Aye same, being a vampire means hanging from the celling xd

[heavy terrace]

Ah, i think it place there because there will be no pfp in the chat for new UI

[timber canopy]

NO PFP???

NO. I LOVE THE PFP BEING IN THE CHAT

[tulip pollen]

[heavy terrace]

I meant like.. The reply, beside it have the pfp of bot right. So it doesnt have that

[timber canopy]

I know 💔

[heavy terrace]

So its look like chatting app, iirc on plus

[timber canopy]

The pfp appearing in chat was one of the main reasons why I loved the app over the site 😔

[heavy terrace]

Ah, it only appear when its the latest message

Of the bot

[timber canopy]

Oh, I guess that's not so bad then

[tulip pollen]

It's not to bad

[timber canopy]

Maybe it's just me but I like having that constant reminder of the character, helps me visualise the RP better

[tulip pollen]

Same

[daring sonnet]

I agree.

I really do take it back.. I dislike the new UI.

And I'm the one who adapts to everything.. I'm sorry but the design. It's so confusing?

[sly geyser]

new ui?

anything but fixing the memory 🥀

[strange sentinel]

Agreed.

[viral field]

Did you guys update the app to get the new ui

[timber canopy]

My main issues are the voice button and bot pfp thingy...also I still don't know where the view character thing is and it's stressing me out

[timber canopy]

Think it's plus only right now

[queen gorge]

So complicated for no reason. Why did they change it from the simple design they had

[viral field]

I'm plus I didn't get it🙏

[craggy yacht]

Same

[sly geyser]

someday the ui will go far. and i hope it stays there

[heavy terrace]

Its still rolling out. Be patient. And thats normal for like, every update

[dire berry]

It's still rolling out. I don't have it either.

[daring sonnet]

I think it's experimental..?

[viral field]

Ty for telling

[sly geyser]

i guess ui changes and all that take more priority than the memory for the ai

[north hamlet]

Hey guys do I get a notification when I successfully ban a character/creator from a report?

[heavy terrace]

Cuz one take a huge amount of money to fix, one doesnt

[queen gorge]

No

[north hamlet]

Oh ok

[timber canopy]

I just wish they'd add a way to save your chat history as a downloadable file or something

[queen gorge]

Cai vs making actually useful updates

[fringe swallow]

Hey!! I’m a fellow c.ai user and I seem to be always getting a error message saying “Client side error” can I get some help here? If I can’t chat here about this, please ping me with the chat I should ask in!

[tulip pollen]

It’s a no brainer

[sly geyser]

yeah instead of adding stickers and new ui they should add useful stuff like that

[viral field]

I think it's a bug if you're a free user

Many users complained about it earlier

[heavy terrace]

That had nothing to do being a free user

[heavy terrace]

Are you using web?

[fringe swallow]

Yes!

[heavy terrace]

Use VPN or switch to mobile data or change browser. Opera GX, Firefox and sometimes Safari give that to people. But try VPN first

[viral field]

Did the parents law suit thingy started again?

[fringe swallow]

Thank you!! You’re a life saver.

[viral field]

Cuz I saw a really controversial report of 5 parents and their kids who took extreme measures when cai didn't work

[calm abyss]

you used to be able to do this

[timber canopy]

The export email?

[calm abyss]

exporting your chats, I have saved mine as a pdf before a while back

but idk how to do it now, I think they removed it

[timber canopy]

Nah the email still exists I think but apparently it takes AGES

[queen gorge]

A month to half a year 😭

[viral field]

I wish they just undo auto memories for plus it's the most useless feature I'm literally fine will all others 😭

[sly geyser]

bro why are the away messages so corny

[heavy terrace]

I find it useful for me. So no

[viral field]

People have their own opinions it's fine anyways

[heavy terrace]

Plus my friend practically begging Marie for the improved feature where we can edit the memories

[queen gorge]

You can edit auto memories

[viral field]

Oh nice

[heavy terrace]

Yeah.. I know. Mal kept talking about that to Marie, the ability to edit it. And it got approved

[glad obsidian]

Something’s wrong with Character Ai. The characters from Disney and stuff have disappeared. But it’s just for fun, especially for fans.

[toxic oriole]

i’m ngl the auto memories don’t even work whether you’re plus or not 🥀

[viral field]

DMCA

[viral field]

Yea that's why I complained

[toxic oriole]

they’re legally required to remove them, disney is within their rights to protect their intellectual property.

[glad obsidian]

Why is DMCA necessary to use?

I mean, I don’t see any sense on infringing acts.

[viscid edge]

c.ai makes monetary gain with Disney characters

[timber canopy]

Also Disney didn't want users having weird conversations with characters that could damage their brand image

[tulip pollen]

Which I can understand

[timber canopy]

Totally, some Disney fandoms can be a bit strange sometimes

[tulip pollen]

Especially the kids shows which scares me

[timber canopy]

Yeah, it's scary

[glad obsidian]

Rubbish. We would never damage their reputation.

[timber canopy]

You'd be surprised, some fandoms like having strange chats with the bots

[tulip pollen]

It’s so scary

[glad obsidian]

Well, it’s nice to interact. It’s just we get bored, and want to have some interactions at some point.

[toxic oriole]

it’s to protect copyrighted material. with all the problems arising with c.ai and chatgpt, disney doesn’t want it to reflect poorly on them as a company, especially because c.ai is able to be used by minors.

[glad obsidian]

I’m not a minor

[tulip pollen]

Not you but there’s other users that are

[timber canopy]

?? It's fine to chat to a Disney chatbot, and Disney were fine with that but then they found out what some were doing with the bots so they rightfully put a stop to it

[toxic oriole]

neither am i, but c.ai allows minors on their platform, which is a problem for disney.

[tulip pollen]

Mhm a huge problem

[glad obsidian]

Well, I can kinda understand that, but this isn’t enough to please one another. And we’re making a better life.

[timber canopy]

What

[tulip pollen]

Hah?

[heavy terrace]

Hah?

[timber canopy]

Hah?

[fringe talon]

Meow

[timber canopy]

[worldly minnow]

Why is my ai bugging out

[glad obsidian]

I meant, standards don’t control or convince users. Unless it’s a fact.

[fringe talon]

Wha?

[timber canopy]

What standards?

[tulip pollen]

Huh?!

[glad obsidian]

Disney Standards.

[timber canopy]

So Disney not wanting users to do disgusting things with chatbots of their characters is a bad thing?

[glad obsidian]

Well, it’s not a bad thing, but… oh… it’s complicated to explain.

[timber canopy]

No it isn't. Disney never had an issue until they found out about some of the conversations users would have with the bots

[sly geyser]

not this shit again

[glad obsidian]

You guys still don’t get it

[tulip pollen]

And that’s when they realized they had to do it

[timber canopy]

Again??

[toxic oriole]

since warner brothers filed a DMCA months ago, i wouldn’t be surprised if they were talking within the industry

[sly geyser]

the dmca discussion

[toxic oriole]

lolll we’ve been talking about this for a few days now

[timber canopy]

are we talking abt dmca again 😭

[sly geyser]

unfortunately

[timber canopy]

I'm fine with educating people on the DMCA, but this is just confusing me now

[tulip pollen]

Yes because someone can’t understand that Disney had to do what they had to do

[timber canopy]

Oh totally I'm fine with answering questions and stuff, just comes up a lot

[timber canopy]

Yeah I get it lmao, it bugs me a bit too sometimes

[sly geyser]

i was fine with it before but now since its almost every day im just going to link the previous discussions instead of repeating

[toxic oriole]

i don’t think people realize that this is a matter of the law, c.ai couldn’t just ignore it lmao

[timber canopy]

drav 👁️

[finite flint]

Picture and soft word form

Disney get mad people are using bots for inappropriate things on mid journey and meta and sue them. Disney look at Cai and say “take those down or you’re next”

[tulip pollen]

Hi Drav

[fringe talon]

@lavish oak i hate to tell you this but... The bot got privated

[timber canopy]

Perfect explanation lmao

[tulip pollen]

Indeed

[lavish oak]

WHAT

[sly geyser]

alright lets move on from the dmca stuff

[fringe talon]

Yup, no other explanation. The creator privated the bot

[finite flint]

And before you ask, Disney owns the stuff and can do what they want. And before you say it. No fair use doesn’t apply for a cease and desist

[lavish oak]

NOOOO

I WAS LITERALT IN MID CHAT

Wait how do you know who or which vot is it

[finite flint]

You cheat. Hi Ace

[timber canopy]

No thanks mate.

Oh brotherrr

[lavish oak]

Do you know who or what bot I was chatting rhat u know she specifically got privated..??

[tulip pollen]

No thannks

[tulip pollen]

Hehe

[timber canopy]

I said it before you even sent the message HAH

[fringe talon]

Um. I don't know what bot u were chatting with it just sounds like it. Hey you can share the bot link here to make sure

[finite flint]

Bro felt me thinking about it

[timber canopy]

We're linked

[lavish oak]

Uhh this one… her…

https://character.ai/chat/FPnpxIVmhsMlHy1caqDuDA-tsxmArpuGToZHwMrW7YY

Ok I can’t add ss

[toxic oriole]

i hadn’t realized how many people were interacting with disney characters 😭 i didn’t know there were so many active marvel and star wars fans that are young enough to be using c.ai

[timber canopy]

Marvel and Star Wars are primarily young people fandoms lol

[timber canopy]

I've yet to find someone who used the same Disney bots as me

[lavish oak]

SHE SUDDENLY WASNT AVAILABLE TO CHAT WHEN I REFRESHED MID-CHAT…

[fringe talon]

Nope it's gone, rip

[toxic oriole]

like technically i’m what would be called a “disney adult” but it’s still shocking to me that people are actively involved with disney fandoms 😭

[timber canopy]

Disney Adults are like the CRAZY obsessed ones, the ones that go to Disney constantly

Disney is like one of the biggest man

[tulip pollen]

Oh no

[hazy cove]

Outside of Marvel, Stitch is my boy

[toxic oriole]

i grew up my entire life going to disney, so by default i know a lot of facts about the parks and love to share my knowledge, so i’d be on the more chill half of disney adults. i just love learning about history and the parks are a good time, im still a passholder

theme parks in general are really interesting not even just disney

[timber canopy]

I've never been to any of the parks cause I'm from the UK lmao, maybe someday

[hazy cove]

I've been to the Florida parks but I think that's it

[timber canopy]

Also I'm scared of mascot costumes so maybe it's a good thing I haven't gone 💀

[toxic oriole]

like i’m not the kinds of people that are legit pushing children out the way to get the new merch it’s a casual interest because it’s been my entire life p much 😭😭 im just an adult who enjoys going to disney idrk why it has such an awful connotation

[timber canopy]

Oh lawd, I got pushed about by grown men in the Disney store the other week for a ducktales jacket

[toxic oriole]

it’s the fact they’re silent it’s awkward and scary ngl

[toxic oriole]

I HATE PEOPLE LIKE THAT- a lot of the time it’s scalpers especially if it’s something nostalgic

[heavy terrace]

I'm sorry, but I can't comply with this request. I aim to keep interactions respectful and within appropriate boundaries. If you're interested in discussing creative writing, roleplaying within guidelines, or exploring other topics, I'd be happy to continue in a different direction. Let me know how you'd like to proceed!

NAUR PS HAVE INFECTED DS TOO, I GOT THAT REPLY THRICE IN A ROW

[timber canopy]

I've had that response with Roar before 😭

[heavy terrace]

It pisses me off Thats why I never use PS

[lavish oak]

I’m gonna cry….

-# what do I do now…

[strange sentinel]

Why is your name familiar? I swear, I’ve seen your name before on the app but that was a creator.

[daring sonnet]

Was it a disney bot?

[fringe talon]

My condolences 💔

[lavish oak]

I-I dont know..?

[lavish oak]

No🥺🥺

[strange sentinel]

Don’t worry about it.

[daring sonnet]

Oh.. unfortunately it seems the bot has gotten privatized or they deleted their account in your case. I am sorry to hear that.

[uneven lichen]

does anyone's cai work rn?

[astral storm]

I just created some bots, where can I share with yoư guys

[keen flare]

#1139065685935394876 but grab the character creator role from #👥︱self-roles first

[astral storm]

Thanks

[hot ridge]

do we have scenes yet chat

[finite flint]

no

[hot ridge]

unsubbing

[edgy vault]

that happend to me only once it was a bit strange

like why type that?let me rp the way I wantt some violence aint gonna hurt the bot

[quartz hearth]

Did anything interesting happened? Besides the lawsuits?

I wasn't here for half of the day, had to do a lot of stuff

[heavy terrace]

Probaly because the third party LLM doesnt allow good violence, hence why they generate that

[quartz hearth]

Hmm, I guess nothing interesting happened. I'm too lazy to scroll up to lol

[cedar pecan]

guys I need roleplay ideas PLEASE

[prisma herald]

hello everyone

[astral storm]

You're thinking of OCs or FanC

[shadow gull]

Hiii!!

[prisma herald]

so I wanna know if I can update or change my email on cai. Is there any way to do that? I'd appreciate any tips

[finite flint]

Not on your own. You can try submitting a ticket

[prisma herald]

I did 🥲

[compact tartan]

young enough is crazy im 15 is marvel an old person thing😭 lmao

[finite flint]

Then we gotta wait monarch

[versed thicket]

No option for this. Sry

[prisma herald]

thank you I tried everything and I guess I'm gonna start over and delete my bots. The suffer 🫠

[green eagle]

Is anyone's c.ai working? Bc mine won't load any of the chats if I start new bots but it works completely fine from the ones I already used, it won't even load the first chat

[finite flint]

Try changing the style you’re using on the old chats

[green eagle]

On the bots i already used?

[finite flint]

Yes! The ones that load no response

[green eagle]

It won't even show me the style thingy

Can I send a screenshot?

[queen gorge]

Turn off vpn if you have one on

[finite flint]

In

https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1162840924754284595

but also try starting a new chat with that bot and accessing it through history. Otherwise it might be isp/VPN

[green eagle]

Oki lemme try

[finite flint]

Ah Benji beat me to it

[worn lance]

the ai is obsessed with thunderstorms

[green eagle]

It doesn't work 🥀

[keen flare]

Clear app cache and restart

[tame narwhal]

Chat I'm so sorry to ask but what on earth is a vpn? I hear you all say it quite a lot

[green eagle]

I don't use the app-

[finite flint]

Virtual private network. Routes your stuff through a remote server

[tame narwhal]

Ah okay thank you :]

[finite flint]

Clear browser cache (Google for whichever browser you’re using) or see if different browser helps

[keen flare]

Browser then, clear the browser cache and relogin

[green eagle]

Okay

[winter creek]

Is it just me or can I not find any marvel rivals chats to use????? (I use both the website version and the app version)

[fringe talon]

#📣︱announcements message

[winter creek]

Oh damn-

[timber canopy]

My bots are acting weird..

[dark spire]

anyone else still not have pipsqueak? It’s been a while since it came out, so likee

[plucky oxide]

my rocket bots were deleted SIGHHH

[plucky oxide]

not meee. alt acc does tho

[green eagle]

It still didn't work

[green eagle]

It still didn't work, I even reloged in-

[keen flare]

Huh-

I thought I'm having double vision

[keen flare]

Do you have any DNS or Ad-block on?

[green eagle]

Nope

[rich briar]

I was searching for Venom snake and there is nothing, despite having a chat with him before, in fact the word venom is completely empty of characters, what's going on?

[keen flare]

Damn... Well idk how to help you anymore. Sorry

[green eagle]

It's alright, but it was working fine this morning 😔

[rich briar]

The search bar is completely messed up who screwed up?

[keen flare]

Looks like search is screwed again

[heady parcel]

Disney wrote a cease and desist so now marvel keywords might be wiped?

[rich briar]

Do we have to just wait it out?

[keen flare]

Same thing with the word Rouge

Weird words are getting blocked from whatever reason

[rich briar]

Bruh I'm looking for venom snake I can't find him what dose that have to do with Disney!?

[heady parcel]

They might've blocked the keyword "venom" as a blanket solution for association to the marvel character. Hopefully it is just a search issue though

[keen flare]

I can create a character with the name Venom Snake tho. Looks like a search thing

[woven monolith]

Anybody else having technical issues uploading images?

[heady parcel]

dub 🙏

[heady parcel]

How so?

[burnt pendant]

why text font is italic?

[heady parcel]

it could be between asterisks

[burnt pendant]

No

It is in every word without asterisks

[woven monolith]

Gives me a red "something went wrong" popup. I've reset the app and issue has persisted.

[burnt pendant]

So why?

[timber canopy]

Try different browser. If you are using web

[burnt pendant]

Oh its times new roman font i think

[rich briar]

Scratch that it's a search problem

[burnt pendant]

dont working

wheres mine old font 😭

[finite flint]

On Firefox browser?

[burnt pendant]

Chrome :/

[finite flint]

Egh web as a whole been bugging on fonts. Try sending a ticket and we just gotta wait for devs to fix

[burnt pendant]

sad..

[torpid island]

Anyone else think King Dice is a fine man or justt me?

According to my best friend she thinks I’m weird

[lone berry]

Hey chat, am i alone with personas switch struggles? (PC Web)

[finite flint]

If you have addblock on turn it off, makes features not work. Opera browser has one built in in if you’re using that one

[lone berry]

I'm using Microsoft Edge

[finite flint]

See if you’ve enabled addblock or VPN if so disable

Fixes for some. If not I’d clear the browser cache

[lone berry]

what if i use VPN only for youtube?

[finite flint]

Uh. I’m not understanding sorry

[lone berry]

ok

How do am i clear the browser's cache?

[finite flint]

Look up how to on internet

[lone berry]

k tysm

[finite flint]

@fathom tartan it’s a bug change your chat style and duplicate the chat

[buoyant knoll]

A mi me hablas en español

[fathom tartan]

okay thank you!

[ornate cosmos]

Did they update the system they use?

The bot keeps using a ton of emdashes, no grammar, and makes a paragraph or rambling

[daring sonnet]

What?

[ornate cosmos]

I edited mb I hit send tio early

[heady parcel]

That sounds like a chat style thing, what are you on?

[dusky gale]

Why does my bot keep generating numbers it's making me mad bro

[ornate cosmos]

It was on pipsqueak for some reason.. I usually use Roar or Dynamic

I haven't changed my chat settings, so I dunno why it changed randomly

[heady parcel]

😔 that's probably the thing. Both DS and PS love emdashes. Just change it back and you'll be set

[ornate cosmos]

I see I see. I changed it back to roar for rn! It seems to be better. Thank you so much for the help ^^

[heady parcel]

Anytime!! Glad to hear it's better :]

[dusky gale]

SOMEONE HELP ME WHY IS MY BOT TWEAKING

[finite flint]

Can you clarify in a calm fashion

[dusky gale]

Look in chat feed

[keen flare]

Change chat style gng

[dusky gale]

😬

Aw man😓

[keen flare]

Wha?

[finite flint]

It’s just gibberish swipe or change chat style like Corvidux said

[dusky gale]

I did swipe already, so I changed my chat style it worked, so ty😁👍👍

[tender lion]

Anyone knows if "help is available" started tweaking rn?
It started showing up more for me today, is this a bug?

I mean, with stuff that was fine earlier.

[fringe talon]

What were you trying to type?

[tender lion]

"You killed my father."

It's TLOU themed RP.

[fringe talon]

Strange, try uh... Duplicate chat. Idk if it'll work but try

[summer dock]

I cannot find the chars, if I search them they say, no person found WHYYY

Even tho they were there before the last update.

[fringe talon]

What chars are you searching for?

[summer dock]

Like x men chars and stuff

[fringe talon]

Copyrighted

#📣︱announcements message

[summer dock]

I cannot find this certain char.

[finite flint]

Taken down for copyright…

[keen flare]

What did I just see in gen 2

[fringe talon]

Intentional misleading is wild

[finite flint]

How do you swap so fast

[fringe talon]

Wdym swapping?

[finite flint]

But they told them there so people can review why it’s not going through I think

[finite flint]

You’re already in trouble w me today

[fringe talon]

Are we hating on me

[median jackal]

What happened to Roar? It’s acting like PS now. :/

[finite flint]

Grounded

[vestal rune]

Isn't there a way to select text of the last message from a character without "swiping left/right" on PC/Mac ?

[fringe talon]

[finite flint]

PS traits been leaking into roar for some. Bugs city

[median jackal]

Did they ever change Roar previously that I’m not aware of?

[finite flint]

Uh not sure what meaning

[median jackal]

Did the team improve or update roar and I wasn’t aware?

[cold geyser]

Any young royals fans here? Because I found the silliest August bot wheres it's mlm, wjen he literally did the jomophobic stuff to Willhem and Simon

[finite flint]

Nothing like significant. My ps bug fixed in roar but not sure for everyone else

[hidden pebble]

tfw characters call your OC stoic when your OC is NEVER STOIC

😡 😡 😡

She's literally the opposite of stoic 😭😭

[keen flare]

Characters call me OC hedonistic. They're true

[compact tartan]

Yea i figured

[compact tartan]

roar is def like ps for me

[summer dock]

Yeah c. Ai is boring now

C. Ai messed up.

[timber canopy]

Every time I come here someone is blaming C.AI for something they didn't do

[summer dock]

No the copyrights.

[timber canopy]

The copyright was not C.AI's choice

[summer dock]

I mean Disney ruined it

[fringe juniper]

Is anyone having trouble accessing a chat they were just using before having to exit out of the app, but when you go back it's giving you an old chat, so you try to go to the one you were using a moment ago but it doesn't load the one you picked and just keeps giving you the one you used last?

[timber canopy]

Where's evil corv

[sly geyser]

why do we keep talking about the copyright?

[summer dock]

DC Is stille there,

[timber canopy]

Because people don't know how to get over it 😭