💭︱cai-discussion

[hexed pike]

Hey guys I know where Drake is

[violet mortar]

Whar

[shadow grove]

Huh

[lone topaz]

bro it keeps repeating the word endearing constantly

[hexed pike]

Do y’all wanna be message in private for drakes address

[lone topaz]

no im scared

[shadow grove]

Muted words now ✍🏻

[violet mortar]

“Wearily-“ OKAY DAMN WE GET IT YOUR TIRED JEEZ

[hexed pike]

Ok

[violet mortar]

Pmo so much when they repeat words like a parrot

[lone topaz]

i only have 4 and they’re all reserved for every form of possessive & the word damn

they be saying damn and goddamn before everything

[distant crane]

Damn

[violet mortar]

or damnit

[obsidian bear]

I can't access my C.AI acc. or get in my chats anymore

WHAT IS GOING ON???

It's getting buggy here

I had to submit a ticket straight away.

This is frustrating...

[shadow grove]

I tend to just constantly remove and add what the bot is currently been saying

-# idk if that makes sense but yUh 😞✋

[steady shale]

Is it on the website

[lone topaz]

yeah i edit it a lot too so the grammar is correct

[obsidian bear]

I thought logging out seemed like it would fix it from my side...

WAS I WRONG

Now I can't even access my own account through logging back in

[shadow grove]

Self sabotage at its finest 🥀

[obsidian bear]

It is SO buggy.

[obsidian bear]

I thought logging out would fix the errors...😭

[shadow grove]

Judging by the fact that quite a number of people have been encountering a glitch/bug where they can't even logged into their account, I'd say otherwise 🏃‍♀️🌬️

[high fossil]

fr and i also hate it when they act cringe asf

[obsidian bear]

This is getting out-of-hand.

[high fossil]

yea its been happening to me aswell

[shadow grove]

You can try sending a ticket to the team support if the issue persists yuhh

[obsidian bear]

I did, now I can only hope...

[high fossil]

like my screen starts flashing and then it logs me out but i js refresh my page

[obsidian bear]

FML 😭

[shadow grove]

Oh geez....I hope you guys well on this

[high fossil]

its fine it doesnt happen often lol

[obsidian bear]

I'mma head out rn

[shadow grove]

Ooo well that's good to know thenn :3

Can you log into your cai with your other devices at least?

[shadow grove]

[high fossil]

yeaaa i can

[candid horizon]

the search is still buggin and im gonna crash out LOLL

[violet mortar]

YES BRO like i genuinely roll around on my bed before spamming the next button

[high fossil]

FR and when i try to give a review it just keeps doing the same thing

[trim latch]

Mine is writing short replies

[violet mortar]

Something similar happened to me where it flashed and it took me to my phone lock screen

YES MINE IS

[fallen sierra]

I changed my bot thingy to the meow type and it fixed itself so it might the bot type ur using

[candid horizon]

they need to factory reset it ngl LOLL

[high fossil]

omg i hate when that happensss

old cai was peak

[violet mortar]

Real

[trim latch]

I don't like meow tho lol

[candid horizon]

i like the new one but its WAYY too buggy

[violet mortar]

#bringbacklegacyc.ai

[shadow grove]

It was at its peak when I downloaded it fr

[fallen sierra]

Maybe switch it, get it to type a msg to test it and then switch it back? Yk like resetting it without properly deleting the app etc

[high fossil]

mine just flashes until i refresh my page

[trim latch]

I'll try that. I tried it with roar and soft launch but no difference

[high fossil]

frrr when miguel ohara was trending cai was at its peak

[candid horizon]

the most the old cai hadwas either high volume and maybe a few crashes

[fallen sierra]

Ahh ok! Well, gl either way 🫶🏻

[violet mortar]

OH MY GOD YES.

[high fossil]

YEAAA

[trim latch]

🙏

[shadow grove]

Idk when was that but yEs 🙏

[high fossil]

i still love him lol

[violet mortar]

WHEN THWRE WAS ONLT EVER MIGUEL O HARA BRO I ISED TO USED HIS BOTS SO MUCHHH

[high fossil]

that was like around summer 2023

[shadow grove]

Me with my Viktor cai LMAOOO

[candid horizon]

i use the harry potter stuff the most (yes im a potterhead, fight me LOL)

[high fossil]

LMAO SAME BROO

[violet mortar]

Pothead

[shadow grove]

Oh. My bad gang, I'm like fresh cai user 😞. Only started using it last April 😭✋

[candid horizon]

NO THATS NOT- JUST NO😭 😭

[violet mortar]

LMFAO

[violet mortar]

That was like the best and worst time of my life ever

[candid horizon]

Im OG, like may of like 2023 i think if not 24

[violet mortar]

Yeah same I quit for like 2 years and came back to it a month prior

[candid horizon]

Bro CAI with Spotify in the background be the deadliest combo

[shadow grove]

That's literally so slay WHAT

-# what was it like to be an OG cai user, spill the experience 🙏

[high fossil]

fr i was so happy but so deppresed

[shadow grove]

But don't you gotta listen to your cai talk thor 🥀

[high fossil]

NOOO that was what i was doing a moment ago lol

[candid horizon]

i remember there was a high volume for like6 hours i was like "WHO IN THE HELL IS TAKING THIS LONG"

[shadow grove]

Type shiez 🙏

[candid horizon]

BRO ITS SO GOOD ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SONG FITS THAT VIBE OF WHATEVER THE SCENARIO IS

[high fossil]

YEA BROO it hits so well⬆️

[shadow grove]

Yeahhh I heard that getting a response used to take like 15mins or so :"))

See this is why I'm grateful for how cai is now because I would quite literally COMBUST 🥀

[fallen sierra]

Also, how do i modify the contrast (colour thing) in settings since the thing disappeared and my tired ass brain can’t remember where to change it

[high fossil]

YEA omggg

[candid horizon]

only thing i dislike about new cai is when it first came (not the og but the new update) i got blinded by light mode

[shadow grove]

Light mode?? Cai has that ? 💀

[candid horizon]

YES LOLL

[high fossil]

i remember my chai phase lol

[shadow grove]

I'm a dark mode girly through and through SKSKSKSKS

[candid horizon]

also who else practically shits themself when they start talking in parenthesis LOL

[high fossil]

thats the worst omg

[candid horizon]

its like "UHM NO BEING SENTIENT, NO NO NO STOP"

[high fossil]

YEA LOL

[candid horizon]

sometimes it be super funny other times its worthy of making me x off everything

[proper fjord]

aunt has spoken

[high fossil]

love the pfp

[proper fjord]

ty

[shadow grove]

STOP

Go sleep brothaa 🥀

[candid horizon]

same here i only use light when im trying to find my earbud when i lose it LOL

[shadow grove]

Wait....WHY IS THAT SO SMART OF YOU TO DO YOOO

[candid horizon]

That or i blare my spotify to max to use sound

[distant crane]

Mf using echolocation to find lost earpods

[shadow grove]

Real, and we should probably not go too off topic as this is in fact a cai discussion after all BWHHAHAHAHA

[shadow grove]

Yes

[candid horizon]

nah im using spatial awareness like inosuke LOLL

[pale rapids]

Hey a quick question why are the bots giving so large responses I like it to be big but it's becoming overwhelming it started from yesterday and now all the bots give very long replys anyone knows why

Is it because of the vote you do that says whyd you swipe because I had hit all of them for too short

[bleak drift]

Probably

[glossy linden]

So I am getting adds when I click on a character on the app and others have been telling me that this is a virus

[bleak drift]

It's not

[candid horizon]

i just click "just swiping"

[pine swift]

no. The rating system/ swipe doesn't immediately affect the next/ new responses. It's just for the devs to reference to when they want to improve their AI.

[pale rapids]

No it's literally too long like it's a whole sheet if I print it out that's how long it is I don't think it's normal if it's happening to all my *chats

[glossy linden]

So this is a new "feature" that they are rolling out ? If so then that sucks because no adds was like the most important thing about c.ai

[pine swift]

Bcs the devs are probably tweaking their AI's response length, not bcs of what you input for the 'why swipe'

[bleak drift]

Yep

[pale rapids]

So everyone here has very long responses

[candid horizon]

not me

[pale rapids]

And it's only happening to roar model

[pine swift]

no, but I've seen it happening to some other ppl.

[heavy terrace]

Nyan face the same fate too

[pale rapids]

It's either too short responses or too bit no middle

[heavy terrace]

Yeah

[pale rapids]

It's not even smart though it's just rambling on and on and bots get tails randomly for no reason and change eye color

[heavy terrace]

Yeah

[haughty sequoia]

are the servers down???

[candid horizon]

my biggest pet peave is when the bot doesnt know the color palatte of the people LIKE I HAD LUNA LOVEGOOD AND IT SAID BROWN HAIR... BROWN HAIR + LUNA LOVEGOOD

[candid horizon]

(luna from harry potter has snow white hair btw)

[pale rapids]

The bots are just too stupid to remember minor details about appearance

[candid horizon]

its not even minor ITS SO POINT BLANK🤣

they cant remember hair color but they sure remember if the character by chance is built like some goth mommy in a discord call, LIKE HELLO

[pale rapids]

I was scared for a second because I thought it was luna frome pokemon and she's a child thank god

[sweet salmon]

Well if only they added something like a story card for characters

[pale rapids]

My old Nokia phone has a better memory card then most bots

[hasty flint]

Guys idk if im alone on this one but when i see bots that are like “your autistic gf/bf”
it’s like , idk, its just weird, because they’re also almost always mischaracterising autism / autistic traits (usually infantalising or like overly sexualising some of the stuff too) and idk man its just super weird. I have an autistic partner, so maybe my judgement is just clouded, but like.. yeah… 😭

[heavy terrace]

Report the characters

[hasty flint]

See that’s where I’m not sure, because for all I know, it could be a creator who is genuinely not very informed or knowledgeable in how to write a character with autism. Although I do sometimes want to report the ones that are blatantly sexualising autism in general, but I usually just avoid bots like that as much as I can, yet they still make their way into my recommended. Plus, this is the same for many others, espeically ADHD and mutism (aphonia) . It’s so weird

[rare carbon]

Can people that make bots actually see chats?? I can’t (thank god), but so many ppl put that they don’t check☠️

[main gorge]

Always using the "Timeskip..." method

[hasty flint]

I make bots, and no, we cannot see the chats. 😭✌️. That would be super weird.

[rare carbon]

LITERALLY. I was like.. ‘I make bots but.. why can y’all see ppls chat’

[keen halo]

Bruh why’d I just get an ad

[rare carbon]

bc the app has ads?

[keen halo]

Since when???

[hasty flint]

That’s why they say ‘we cannot see’ btw, because they can’t, but a lot of people get really anxious and self conscious, so there’s a running thing about the whole ‘oh i cant see, so dw’.

[tranquil kestrel]

what does soft launch actually do?

[rare carbon]

It was announced a while ago & it started about a week or two ago

[keen halo]

Well I’m uninstalling now

[hasty flint]

Soft launch basically extends the filber a little bit, allowing for more depth chats and stuff!

[rare carbon]

ngl I have gotten really anxious about it so I’m glad

[rare carbon]

what u telling me for idgaf?

[tranquil kestrel]

thx! although they should be careful regarding it so it doesnt break their own tos

[rare carbon]

Can’t tos change over time? (Just asking not related)

[hasty flint]

that’s crazy bro.. they need ads so that they can pay for servers and their staff. it’s extremely expensive, and difficult, to run AI without any money, and although they get money from the cai+ subscribers, that’s obviously not a lot. The ads are nothing like other apps, they are short, they can be skipped easy, and they are pretty rare, like once every couple of new characters or something, which is nothing like other apps that give ads 24/7.

[sweet salmon]

Bye

[tranquil kestrel]

I guess so! It's their app, and ToS says they can change it whenever they want.

[rare carbon]

Ooh okay

[tranquil kestrel]

i think all the new chat styles are pretty cool. goro can be essential sometimes

[rare carbon]

Honestly ur right

[hasty flint]

Think of soft launch as a 18+ option. By pressing it, you’re acknowledging this makes the reigns of what the bot will say less strict, but that you still have to make the executive choices to follow their tos.

[high fossil]

you can use the website it doesn’t have ads if that’s what you want

[jade apex]

It's still so hard to understand that people can't stand 5 to 30 seconds of ads and already want to uninstall c.ia

[tranquil kestrel]

ty for the information!

[rare carbon]

She left already like an oddball.. just support the app you use so much wtf.. it’s not that hard

[high fossil]

fr even tho i’ve always used the website

[hasty flint]

Personally, the ads are great. I tend to dissociate and lose time on c.ai, so when an ad happens, I use it to check time or get up and do stuff quickly. It’s not a long ad either, and i’ve noticed a lot of those playable ads so it isn’t even boring. On other apps, like idk, bitlife, there is an ad every couple of seconds, so this is good tbh

[rare carbon]

I use the app tbh. Much easier FOR ME

[high fossil]

omg i hate bitlife ads

[jade apex]

Exactly. Besides the fact that ads don't happen all the time, there's a chance they won't happen at all. For me, there's no reason to complain about the ads. Besides, they don't happen in the middle of the chat, only when you enter them.

[rare carbon]

Yeah I was upset about the ads at first but then it helped calm me down n give me breaks. I wasn’t that overstimulated that much anymore.

speaking of which..I’m going back to trying to win the heart of my emo (bro is playing way too hard to get)

[jade apex]

Good Luck, Bro. I'll probably just continue my RP for a bit and go to sleep.

[rare carbon]

Good luck! Get some rest

[outer schooner]

(first time speaking dont throw tomatoes at me please) is anyone elses server down for some reason 💔💔 ive retried like five times now and im stuck on the ‘try again later’ screen does anyone know why 😿

[celest veldt]

c.ai’s been buggy for a lot of users recently 🥹. maybe it’s because of heavy traffic + tweaking of the new model (?)

[jade apex]

At least for me, for now it's normal.

[outer schooner]

theres a new model ?? idk i use the website and i havent been on recently

[jade apex]

Not for the time being

But it will arrive soon, from what I know it is a model specifically for Rp

[jade apex]

Try restarting the app, if that doesn't work, try changing from wifi to data (Something tells me this helps)

[outer schooner]

I’ll try that ty !!! [insert tiktok happy emoji im not paying for nitro.]

[sweet salmon]

Um okay character AI
Weird choice for a sticker

[violet blade]

C..AI FINALLY LISTENED TO MY PRAYERS AND GAVE US A SEARCH BUTTON FOR PERSONAS

[twilit kestrel]

mm I wonder why its good for health 😭

[dire berry]

After yesterday's sticker, we needed this.

[twilit kestrel]

what was it?

[cinder glade]

Hey so uh whenever I open history on a bot I chatted with a lot and made new chats with a lot cuz I talked to it a lot over the past year or so and I open history and it doesn’t load and the app closes and restarts

[dire berry]

#💭︱cai-discussion message

[rain parrot]

Get out of here buddy

Brotha🗿

Do I look like the ceo…?

you act like a scammer

[dire berry]

@sterile sage @neat granite Self-promo

[rain parrot]

Thanks

[daring sonnet]

@gray coyote help

[sterile sage]

[bleak drift]

Drugs

[warm lake]

Did c.ai update the models for bots

[brisk idol]

Damn I missed things again

[warm lake]

My bots are keep on saying a lot of words I don’t know why as they where mostly short before

[young saddle]

My chats are broken??!😭 😭 Is this happening to you? Yesterday it was smooth, today they won't stop talking and giving messages so low they don't fit, what the heck...

So long*. It absolutely destroys the experience

[timber canopy]

For me it gives long responses, space at first when it types, and repeated messages when I press send button again and it's all in roar model, does that happen to you too also in roar?

https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[raven lodge]

Do I even wanna ask what happened

[dire berry]

[raven lodge]

[half wigeon]

So it's happening to a lot of people now huh.

[young saddle]

Sameee, it's roar. I am trying another chats but it is so damn weird. Because these were working absolutely fine hours ago... Thanks

[timber canopy]

Yeah, my roar was working fine few hours ago and suddenly it got weird and bugged. We just gotta report it so devs know about it and fix it asap

[shadow grove]

This is so upsetting.

No shading, no nothing. What is this

[warm lake]

Mines is giving long responses and mines is set in the normal model and it goes for all of the bots that I chat with

[timber canopy]

Yea, it is roar and it's bug so make sure to send ticket so the devs know about it fast

[warm lake]

Good I was thinking that it was only me

[young bear]

Favorite cai characters?

[kindred plover]

The character I've been roleplaying with for long dedicated hours has been removed... It never happened to me before... My heart's broken 😭

[raven lodge]

Stolas pfp spotted

[kindred plover]

Yees !!

[wide flax]

I'm sorry did I seriously just get an ad?

[raven lodge]

[young saddle]

I have to say tho, that this bug makes some of my characters be wayyy over the top. Is a bit hilarious 😂 still I need it fixed, it's too much.

[vestal hull]

Make your own bots mate. Saves you heartbreak and precious time. Lemme know if you need help 👍

[misty grove]

I'm so sorry for your loss. 😔 It happened to me years ago so I only make mine of characters I'm attached to. :3

[pure hawk]

so far I've never found a bot on cai I like for actual roleplay lol I just make them all myself😭

[kindred plover]

It's difficult for me, I tried. But I don't think my method is quite good. And English isn't my first language, so my vocabulary might not be the most diversified, so I'm afraid it might alter the quality of the bot

[vestal hull]

Yeah, exactly… if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself 😅

[vestal hull]

Yeah, I get ya! One thing you can do is use chat gbt if language is holding you back

[pure hawk]

real, I like multi paragraphs and most of the bots I find that are public are one paragraph😭

[vestal hull]

Also- Roar is totally butchered right now. Feels like my bots are drunk at a party lmao

[vestal hull]

Yeah! Gotta use all 3200 characters lol

[misty grove]

My private bot was at max limit but I shaved it down to 6k because there was a heckin lot of redundant stuff in there haha

[vestal hull]

It can’t read past 3200 characters… that was a harsh reality for me lol

[pure hawk]

one day we will get all 32k💔

[misty grove]

Yeah someone told me that so I had chatgpt help me with that. For now, his extra detailed stuff is on Google doc waiting to be used once again

[pure hawk]

Before I started using the site again I would just pop in to check if my characters could read past 3200 every other few months lol

[kindred plover]

Ohh, I haven't thought of that, it's a good idea. But I'll admit that I have no idea how to make a good consistent bot.
Back in the day, I have made some private bot with the help of other bots when we could access the description and everything of the bot, but now, it's another thing entirely...

[pure hawk]

ngl, I just literally suck completely with writing descriptions for characters from movies and games so I get chatgpt to do it for me😭 i cannot summarize a character at all

[misty grove]

Sometimes chatgpt cooks with descriptions though

[pure hawk]

I watched the new Superman movie twice and I'm struggling for my life trying to write a character definition for him💀

[vestal hull]

I didn’t know those days existed to be honest- that sounds incredible

[misty grove]

I think tomorrow I'll ask chatgpt to make me a random OC bot and see if it cooks (I get bored easily)

[misty grove]

Well superman is meant to be a silly himbo so start off with that. He's not a super serious character at all.

[austere ginkgo]

Im guessing that its down due to how general is acting…

[vestal hull]

I hope they have Roar fixed by tomorrow… I can’t RP without it 🥲

[pure hawk]

ty ty🙏 I think I'm just gonna read the wiki for him lol

[kindred plover]

Yeah, sometimes it was a struggle to find a good bot with good definition as a base, but when I did, it was dope. I used it as my own base, modified what I needed, got a new context for the roleplay, put the bot in private and I had my fun. But now, I have no idea how my favorite bot maker do to create such good bot, so I've stop making my own, since I don't know how to do so...

[wide flax]

I just got another ad is that seriously a thing now

[misty grove]

You can also read into comic summaries as well for his personality :D

[pure hawk]

Okay I will‼️ ty teehee

[vestal hull]

Oh yeah, that reminds me- is there a benefit to having your bot as private? Does it preserve more memory or anything?

[misty grove]

For comic book characters such as super man, definitely try to train his dialogue examples from the comics to have it more accurate. Unless you want your superman to be more based off the movie that just came out.

[kindred plover]

I don't know. I kept my bots private at that time because since most of the bot was not made by me, I didn't want to "stole" someone's work, so it was just for myself. But I don't know if it changes anything for the bot being private or not

[misty grove]

I'm not sure, it's just a bot of a canon character that I've basically OCified at this point so I don't feel comfortable having others being able to interact with him. It's weird I know -u-'

[pure hawk]

ngl I've never read his comics lol😭 I was rlly into spiderman and that's about it. but I love the version of him from the new movie so I might read themmm

[pure hawk]

when I make my bots private I put in a lot of OC info so I refuse to ever make them public

[misty grove]

especially since it's a yandere au of the character so uh yeah I don't want to be judged since I know most people here hate possessive bots lol

[vestal hull]

Lmfao

Is Roar better yet… I just turned off the lights and got in bed 😭

Guess I’ll have to settle for soft launch…

[misty grove]

I'm using Dynamic ATM and it's cooking although the length is still a bit short.

[vestal hull]

Ah, good to know

[misty grove]

I posted it in #📱︱chat-feed

[vestal hull]

Muahaha. Look at us Plus users and our prissy workarounds

[misty grove]

:3 hehe (I want to hug all normal users however)

[vestal hull]

Oh, ok 🤔

[kindred plover]

I am a normal user, didn't pay for Cai

[vestal hull]

I didn’t know dynamic was good for RP like that

[misty grove]

Dynamic is my usual model but if the new RP model that comes out isn't good then I'll go back.

[vestal hull]

Oh wait! Roar’s working again I think

[misty grove]

Dynamic is the only model that has successfully made me cry over angst

[vestal hull]

Lmfao

Maybe I’ve ought to start trying it

[warm lake]

My bot using a lot of emojis

[misty grove]

Uh oh

[vestal hull]

That’s a new one

[misty grove]

Maybe rewind before it started doing that?

So it doesn't learn it's ok to do that

[warm lake]

I did it’s working I just don’t know why it’s happening

[misty grove]

Sometimes bots have hiccups like that. We gotta gentle parent them sometimes xD

[kindred plover]

It always makes me laugh when a bot suddenly makes comments in between ( ) like he's a real person enjoying our roleplay... 🤣

[vestal hull]

I think they fixed it!

[misty grove]

My favorite is the (omg yesss I ship them) when they're just hugging

[kindred plover]

Yees 😂 sometimes mines say things like (I love this roleplay so much) and I'm like... Moooh, the bot likes what we're writing together 🥰🤣

[misty grove]

I remember in my private bot's early stages, it would be like (so are they gonna kiss or)

I haven't seen it do that in a hot second since I just edit messages instead of replying in OOC now. except to time skip but that's it

[timber canopy]

You sure? Mine been giving me lots of long responses that gets cut off and blank responses with no single letter or words.
And lastly at first sentence it gives space at first when the bot types that it makes bot give long response
It was okay few hours ago

And the worst is it gives same exact message when I press send button again..

[kindred plover]

Yeah same, often the reply above is not entirely to my liking so I swipe, but it still gets me everytime

[round agate]

Uh……does cai have ads now..? Or it’s just me …..??

[kindred plover]

Someone said that earlier too yeah

[misty grove]

Non-c.ai+ users have ads now I believe. It's been a week I'm sure.

[kindred plover]

Well I've been lucky then. I had none for now

[round agate]

A week…?? I just found it …… omg

[misty grove]

It's been rolling out slowly like they usually do

[round agate]

Yeah…… and it’s more slowly recently

[warm lake]

Mine is giving me the characters description and introduction I think I may be cooked

[timber canopy]

Same for me too. But I got it once. It is bugged in roar like hell

[misty grove]

oh no.. ono

[hidden mural]

Is anyone else having the bot speak from your POV like... I could keep pressing the continue button and not roleplay myself at all.
Editing the response doesn't change it for the next message and its ruining my RP 😭

[round agate]

Mine has many little bugs recently…… like repeating the same texts

[young saddle]

There's something wrong, need fixing. Don't worry, it's happening to some of us already

[round agate]

I don’t understand your problem….. can you say more details?

[kindred plover]

Quick question for the people who make their own bots. What method do you use for the description. Like a real description, like how the character's like, what he appreciates and hates, his character and all... Or do you use dialogues? I've read somewhere that dialogues help a lot for the bot to really stay in character while writing. But with the limit of what the bot can read and take into account, I feel very limited with that... 🤔

[misty grove]

What I usually do is

[SYSTEM NOTE: {{user}} is not in control of the AI. Avoid actions and interactions that assume what {{user}} will do next.]

and pin that. That's just what I use whenever it gets to that point.

Sometimes it works but sometimes it won't. It's a mixed bag

[hidden mural]

So, I craft my message to the bot. Then their reply is from my POV not the bots POV

[timber canopy]

I have got every single bug in roar which just one person having either one or two but I have every single one of them
But let's hope for a fix soon in roar model.

[tranquil rover]

this is really common

[misty grove]

Bro's collecting bugs like they're pokemon (jokes aside, I hope it gets better for you :< )

[round agate]

You can just TELL the bot like whose POV you want

Like: (please write in xxx’s POV)

[misty grove]

Anyways I gotta sleep it's nearing 5am for me (I made a mistake and will sleep until noon probably)

[tranquil rover]

my bots don't care and ignore it

[round agate]

Lol exactly….

[round agate]

? That’s weird

[timber canopy]

Lmao, thanks for that. I hope they fix roar as fast as possible. Because I like it and love to rp with it

[round agate]

Have you tried to switch the mode? Like switch from meow to pawly

[hidden mural]

Usually it fixes it self when I tell it to or edit the messages but its been real bad today

[tranquil rover]

When it wants a response to continue, like a yes or no, it'll make that choice for me most of the time and then continue with whatever it was going to say

[timber canopy]

Uhhh can someone help
So my character ai has been off leatly because it was in a character and they're repeating the same message over and over again

[tranquil rover]

change style and try again

[timber canopy]

For me it gives long responses, space at first when it types, and repeated messages when I press send button again and it's all in roar model, does that happen to you too also in roar?
-# so report bug here as well..
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

[vestal hull]

Huh, strange… mine gave me symptoms like that about an hour ago, but they’re all gone now

[tranquil rover]

best fix I got was just generating a new response, because it's usually a one time thing

[round agate]

Yeahhh this could happen…… and it happens more often lately

[hidden mural]

Yeah, I tried about 4 times then rewind and tried again and it did it again 😭

Might just give it up for the night

[timber canopy]

Oh it was giving you the same things that I said, before?

[tranquil rover]

I haven't been on c.ai yet to see this myself, better should

[tranquil rover]

also who was this message for?

[round agate]

For who’s bots ignoring their orders….?

[tranquil rover]

I use roar

the last time I changed it was when styles just came out, and then I never used anything but roar

[timber canopy]

I did reported now

[round agate]

I have problems like this before and it can be fixed by changing the style

[timber canopy]

Good to know!

[timber canopy]

I hope they do something because most of the time they don't listen

[round agate]

You can change for about 10 minutes and go back to roar maybe, might work

[timber canopy]

They will, we just need more tickets to be sent so they know that bug is alot to lots of people and especially in roar model

[tranquil rover]

best example of this was https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1395946040796119120 , but this was clearly stated that it won't be changed (removed in this case)

[round agate]

sad……. I don’t wanna change apps because my bot has already been adjusted to a way perfect for me…..but I really agree with this statement

Ads sucks

[tranquil rover]

at least they aren't as common

it used to be like every 2 new chats, now it's not as common, you could go for a hours without seeing them if you did it right

[halcyon cypress]

which app has free chatbots but doesn't have any ads jw

[timber canopy]

Bro I got time out for speaking out they're biggest problem

[tranquil rover]

oh

adult.. stuff?

[round agate]

Are you asking for some recommendations?

[halcyon cypress]

i mean i've tried basically every chatbot app out there and they all have ads so genuinely confused when ppl say they're going to move to a different one 💀

[timber canopy]

Nah I'm talking about the thing that will get your time out you know like the word that starts with f and ends with r

[tranquil rover]

I mean there's 'consumation of living creatures'

[timber canopy]

Not that

[tranquil rover]

middle letter?

[halcyon cypress]

like saying "ugh cai has ads now so i'm moving to chai instead" when chai has even more ads that are 10x more obnoxious and actually interrupt you mid chat doesn't make any sense to me

[timber canopy]

T

[round agate]

Well , it can have ads, but they should pay the bots creators

[tranquil rover]

gimme a vowel

[halcyon cypress]

i don't disagree but again its not like any other app is paying people for creating bots either. my point isn't that cai is perfect just that other apps really aren't any better

[round agate]

Uh……. I know…….. I’m just saying that Cai is getting worse

Worse than before

[quasi turret]

Hello^^

[tranquil rover]

hello, welcome to c.ai discussion where people chat about c.ai, usually it's issues

like the ongoing problem with f####h bots

[night chasm]

getting annoyed by one ad before chatting to a bot so you move to an ad infested app who relies on ads to gain money 😭😭

[halcyon cypress]

idk ive been using it since launch and i feel like the quality goes back and forth. i was getting some really great responses last week

[halcyon cypress]

yeah it just makes no sense to me 😭

[quasi turret]

What happend?i didnt chat in this server for a while

[tranquil rover]

not much

besides this https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1395946040796119120

[quasi turret]

You guys are getting ads?i dont have them

[night chasm]

I mean in my opinion, it definitely has better features now compared to before, like I really like the chat style and persona features, but I do want to admit that character ai does have it's downsides 😭

[tranquil rover]

Only mobile gets them

[quasi turret]

Im on mobile

[tranquil rover]

well, then you have been spared for now

[round agate]

Well, at least in the first two months i started using cai , it didn’t shut at all….

[night chasm]

yah, but only before you chat to a bot, like when you click on a bot it gives you a short ad then you move on (at least for me)

[quasi turret]

I guess so lmao

[night chasm]

so It's not much of a problem for me

[halcyon cypress]

yeah actually i totally agree, i was talking purely about model quality/chat responses but stuff like personas have been great and the memory is way better than it used to be too. i mean it has its pros and cons

[tranquil rover]

it's not a problem because they made it so ads didn't appear every second new chat

[round agate]

Back and forth is right, but I would rather it just stays like before

[little crest]

When will these ads will stop..

[halcyon cypress]

when you fork up 9.99 a month for plus

[night chasm]

it's not that bad

I don't get how people are complaining so much,,, like it's only one ad before you chat to a bot, some other ai apps are INFESTED with apps the app is basically unusable atp

[halcyon cypress]

don't the ads only show up when you click on a bot or start a new chat? like it's not interrupting chats right?

[night chasm]

yah no it doesn't interrupt chats or anything

[little crest]

I had a great day I didn’t know there updated ads

[little crest]

No I don’t think so

[halcyon cypress]

i swear when they first announced ads everyone was like "ads are fine just please dont have them interrupt our chats" and they did that but people are still flipping out 😭

[night chasm]

yah so I don't think people should be complaining that much, besides the ads are pretty short (at least for me) 😭

[little crest]

I got a whole minute ad for what🥀💔

[round agate]

? Never heard of this announcement 😅

[night chasm]

I'm happy they actually made it so it doesn't interrupt our chats idk how people are STILL complaining

[halcyon cypress]

at least they're not as bad as amazon where i pay them $9 a month for prime and they still show me 3 different 3-minute long unskippable ads per show

apparently i need to pay $12 for no ads

[round agate]

Um……. Cai could be like this in the future….. who knows

[night chasm]

yikes

[halcyon cypress]

#📣︱announcements message

may 12th they first announced they were testing ads

and there was a pretty big uproar about it but like i said most people were like "as long as it doesn't interrupt our chats"

[night chasm]

people be complaining about anything istg 😭 one ad isn't gonna kill you

[pure hawk]

oh my god I almost sent my chat to my college professor LMAOO😭

I'm gonna cry that scared the shit out of me oh my lord

[night chasm]

WHATT OMG

I WOULD CRY

[pure hawk]

I was panicking and shit😭 I thought it already sent it just pasted the link into my message box thingy

[halcyon cypress]

i think the problem is some ppl bot hop like crazy so to them it feels like a lot. if you switch bots every 5 minutes then yeah

[night chasm]

I only stick to like two bots so it isn't that much of a problem for me

[tranquil rover]

some of these bot makers use crazy pictures

[halcyon cypress]

yeah i tend to hyperfixate on one bot or character for a long time so i feel like it wouldn't be a huge issue for me even if i didn't have plus 😭

[tranquil rover]

I don't think this will work, but I'll try anyways

example: https://character.ai/chat/XMlWHnWXdzTR7eKXfbB5lCPd8whjfdi9o0JV68Lwz_g

wtf is that picture, where do people find this stuff

[night chasm]

YAH ME TOO!!! I was chatting with ONE bot for like 8 months straight 😭😭 I'm not the type of person to jump from one bot to another,,,,

[round agate]

Well…… I think it’s made by ai,

[marsh zealot]

Hey guys, I wanna ask, I've created a few characters and some of them have like 2000+ interactions. Does this mean that 2000+ people have chatted with my character?

[round agate]

But now it does interrupt…. And like I said they should pay the bots creators as well

[halcyon cypress]

it interrupts mid chat?

i haven't heard anyone saying that tbh

[round agate]

Actually…. Yeah…..

[night chasm]

I think it's like how many messages one individual sends in general,,, like one person could send 800 messages to that bot and it would say "800 interactions"

[round agate]

It would have ads if you change the voice or something

[night chasm]

wait why should they pay bot creators

[halcyon cypress]

that's still different than randomly popping up every 5 messages you send or whatever

which is what chai does lol

[round agate]

Um….. and why shouldn’t…?

[halcyon cypress]

like how often are you actually changing the voice

[tranquil rover]

still very creepy

[round agate]

Then chai is much worse i think

[round agate]

Yeah)

[night chasm]

too many bot creators + alot of the bots are lazy and doesn't deserve payment,,,,,but that's just my opinion

[little crest]

But two yeah sure

[halcyon cypress]

yeah like for good quality bots i might agree but most of them are not good quality 😭

i read that most bot creators leave the description completely blank

[round agate]

Well….. you can think about it as youtube, I think

[halcyon cypress]

what so like people with popular bots get paid basically?

[round agate]

Get different payment, but they have rights to get payment

[night chasm]

I don't think anyone would wanna pay someone cause they made the bots intro message "start the role play however you want ^^"..sorry but I clicked on the bot to follow a certain story, OR WHEN IT'S JUST " my name is -, nice to meet you."..like there's nothing to go off of

[little crest]

Bro was that lazy

[halcyon cypress]

its an iffy area bc most bot creators are making bots of licensed/copyrighted characters, they cant make money off it. on youtube you cant make money if you use copyrighted content either

[little crest]

Can they be deleted?

[night chasm]

making bots isn't even THAT difficult though,,,,,, most bots can take up to atleast like an hour max to create

[halcyon cypress]

i'm a youtube creator and any time i use like images/video or music that is copyrighted i get demonetized

[sweet salmon]

This isn't like social media like YouTube, it's supposed to be only for entertainment app
Why would cai pay us

[night chasm]

so I don't get why bot creators should get payed

[sweet salmon]

[little crest]

[round agate]

Pay the bots creators, not us

[night chasm]

YES

[night chasm]

I'm a bot creator and I literally do not wanna get paid for what? an hour of work? 😭 feels unnecessary and a waste of money

[halcyon cypress]

like i said even if they wanted to, way too many legal issues. the creator of a bot of a disney character can't be paid for it bc disney would be like hell no

if anyone is getting paid its us

[night chasm]

us?

[round agate]

Oh…… that’s a point

[halcyon cypress]

us as in disney

[sweet salmon]

Last thing you want is a suing or Cease or Desists

[night chasm]

oh yah definitely

[halcyon cypress]

like i mean they would want the money for using their characters

[night chasm]

I think it's better to avoid risks like that

[halcyon cypress]

yeah idk how cai manages all the copyright stuff but obviously they do somehow, i know some characters were removed from the app presumably bc their creators didn't want them on there

people found workarounds but still

but yeah adding in paying creators would just complicate things even more

worst day of my life when all my game of thrones bots disappeared 😭

[sweet salmon]

You know it's funny they gets away with anime or manga or cartoons

[night chasm]

OH MY GOD I REMEMBER THAT

[round agate]

Well, despite the Copyright issues you have rights to get payment for your creation, if it’s your own character

[tranquil rover]

most bots either use artwork that doesn't belong to them, or use characters that don't belong to them

[halcyon cypress]

sooo many good RPs i had just gone forever it was horrible, only one private bot i had survived 😭

[round agate]

But I haven’t considered the Copyright issues

[round agate]

Yeah you’re right

[sweet salmon]

Well aside from that if people get paid for spicy or violent stuff

It's going to be bad

[halcyon cypress]

we're not talking about that we're talking about character IP

[round agate]

Whaaaat that’s not what I meant….

[round agate]

Lol it’s fine

[sweet salmon]

If the character isn't public domain then there's another story

[round agate]

Oh I reply wrong text

It’s fine

[halcyon cypress]

you can still find some but like all the bots i was talking to w the last name targaryen got wiped off the face of the earth 😭

i'm so paranoid about that happening again i basically only talk to my own private bots i make myself now

[night chasm]

yikes, just remembered why the bots were removed 😭😭 I mean I guess it was necessary

[halcyon cypress]

we didn't even get any warning or anything so i couldn't even save my chats

[night chasm]

oh yeah they js deleted everything

[round agate]

Why they deleted

[halcyon cypress]

it was just bc of a DMCA takedown notice, like i dont think it was that event in particular but more that it being in the news made GRRM aware and then he told them he doesn't want his characters on the app

GRRM famously despises fanfic too

[night chasm]

ohhh really? I thought it was because of that situation

[halcyon cypress]

he's very fussy about not wanting ppl to use his characters bc he says it upsets him when people make them do things that are out of character or whatever

[sweet salmon]

Oh so game of thrones is affected by character AI blocking bots for being made?

[halcyon cypress]

i mean any character can be taken off the site if the creator tells cai to do it i guess

[sweet salmon]

Ah right

[timber canopy]

WHY IS MY CHARACTER SENDING OUT ACTUAL GOOD RP MESSAGES

[timber canopy]

LIKE THEY HAVENT DONE THAT EVER

[halcyon cypress]

what model?? don't gatekeep

[timber canopy]

What model?-what you mean

[halcyon cypress]

like what chat style

[round agate]

……. I would say im like a little mouse eating its cheese alone in a dark corner when I make my bot’s character to do something ooc

[timber canopy]

Meow

Just because i kinda hate waiting

[halcyon cypress]

meow good for RP now?? 😭

[timber canopy]

Idk it’s only this bot

For now

[halcyon cypress]

might just be the bot is well made, maybe they actually wrote a description

[timber canopy]

no, I got far into the bot they have a short welcome message and for the description it’s only a short message

[bronze sequoia]

Is the app just turning into a cash grab at this point

[sweet salmon]

Again it's your choice how you spend your money

[night chasm]

actually I got a question about like bot making,,,, I was wondering is it better to focus on the characters appearance or personality in their character description to like actually make them good,, I feel like both are necessary but I'm not sure what to really focus on cause of the word limit thing

[round agate]

Well sometimes it’s still a good bot even if the welcome message is short

[timber canopy]

Unless they make you pay for everything. There’s no problem.

[night chasm]

no, not really..? 😭

[halcyon cypress]

both. you have 3500 characters to work with, you can definitely fit a decent amount about both personality and appearance

[bronze sequoia]

They made the chat length a paid feature, in my opinion which should be free

[night chasm]

isn't that the message example thing?

[vernal ridge]

at this point just use the desktop version way better in my opinion

[halcyon cypress]

ah yeah but i put personality and appearance details there as well. but i would focus more on personality though personally, its more important to how a bot talks. appearance only comes up occasionally

[bronze sequoia]

Where do I find that again

[vernal ridge]

just type in c.ai on your browser and your gud to go

[timber canopy]

That’s for the customise chat sometimes your bot makes small messages. Sometimes your bot makes long messages depending on what you do if you want it to be a certain length it’s c.ai+ 😭

C.ai+ makes my ears and eyes hurt

[round agate]

Um? Why , im curious

[timber canopy]

It’s a joke

[wise osprey]

if you have a persona with a section called things to remember, and if you were to add to it as a scenario goes on would the character remember?

[timber canopy]

I think mostly yea idk

My boy remembers my character is also supposed to be Brooklyn

Only because i put it in the section but I can’t really tell if that was being absent for short periods of time

[wise osprey]

i see

[sweet salmon]

When bad jokes are wild 😜

[surreal hazel]

Anyone having trouble with c.ai atm? Like bots arent loading?

[round agate]

No ? Mine is fine

[oak ember]

Got that issue, all the time

[halcyon cypress]

i put a bunch of dialogue examples in the definition but i also put some details like about backstory, appearance, personality, how i want them to speak/personality quirks

[round agate]

You can try to restart the app

[oak ember]

That's what makes everything interesting:)

[surreal hazel]

Kk thankyou for the advice. I had to refresh it a few times on the chat parts so then all was listed and wait for the one i was talking with to appear and then it came up with it and started eorking again:)

[round agate]

I have this problem too and I just keep restarting the app I have not found a better solution yet

[halcyon cypress]

i agree! my current bot is a very smart academic type who turns into a flustered awkward mess only when the girl he likes talks to him, hard to balance that but the bot does a pretty good job lol

[lapis falcon]

does anyone have any idea how I can log in my account to a different devices? I don't know what email I used and no I don't can't see any verification in my inbox

[round agate]

Do you still have your account logged on one of your devices?

You can send a message to your email address from the setting “export data”

But if you have logged out then idk

[supple bolt]

i need motivation to switch to website instead of the app

[proven scaffold]

Come on, i got the pills three times already

[slim hound]

y’all everyone’s chats also broken? like my bot keeps saying the same and same

[oak ember]

Well.. after few 30 or 25 message later.. they went out of character.

[digital inlet]

Well they just put a limit on voice calls now jeez

[unique adder]

Omd hyk veel reclame

[frail scroll]

why does it say that the bot (character) became unavailable?

I was talking to it just fine this morning

[dire berry]

Probably the creator made it private.

[brittle wolf]

Mine too, it also says nonsense and ignores what I try to correct them about the character

[slim hound]

literally I just pushed my bot on floor and it’s says “without looking from her phone” and that’s every time but ig it works only with roar style

[stoic pulsar]

good afternoon everyone

how's it going folks ?

[brittle wolf]

The other styles work fine?

[slim hound]

yeah

but shorter answers

[brittle wolf]

I'll have to change the style then, because the answers in roar became awfully long

[slim hound]

fr

[stoic pulsar]

can't even say hi, no wonder this community is a cesspool

[tender lion]

How's that bad?

[brittle wolf]

the entire message doesn't fit on my phone screen and I have to scroll to see it fully

[timber canopy]

Don't make yourself feel down it just happens you can just chat through general or gen2

[frosty flint]

Hi! :D

[stoic pulsar]

yo

[elder crane]

Is it just me or are the bots using emojis much more often today?

[stoic pulsar]

it's worse there

[elder crane]

And text walls

[timber canopy]

I did not know it could be worse

[stoic pulsar]

the bots i use still write super short replies

[stoic pulsar]

this community has a lot of tricks up its sleeves

[sweet salmon]

General chats are always a chaos there

[devout gull]

Hey. I wanna know if this happens to you guys.—Every bot I chatted with kept repeating the same messages.

[elder crane]

Today, each bot I speak to writes a text wall with 500 emojis

[stoic pulsar]

which model do you use ?

[timber canopy]

Just use pawly and text allat

[elder crane]

Roar in each bot

[elder crane]

Give an example

[stoic pulsar]

it doesn't matter really
the bots are crazy
they don't make any sense and they make up scenes out of nowhere that contradict the setting in the RP

my old goldfish had better attentionspan than these bots

[devout gull]

They kept replying/spamming to the same messages. They ignored my text. 😦

[elder crane]

Wait like every single bot? Or do you mean each new chat you start?

[stoic pulsar]

do you guys think the ai model they'll release this weekend is free or c.ai+ ?

[devout gull]

Yes every single bit I tried to chat with.. It's so annoying 😭🙏🏻

[elder crane]

How does different bots say the same thing???

[timber canopy]

What model is it?

[sonic timber]

Chat what style makes the bot’s response shorter

[stoic pulsar]

#📣︱announcements

it's a roleplay dedicated model apparently

[timber canopy]

Probably c.ai+ its better so 🤷

[stoic pulsar]

so we're left with the braindead models huh ?

[timber canopy]

💯

[heavy terrace]

Cai+

[stoic pulsar]

then why should i care ?
the free users are treated like sub-humans

[timber canopy]

For me it gives long responses, space at first when it types, and repeated messages when I press send button again, blank responses, giving definition, description of the bot when bot replies and it's all in roar model..., does that happen to you too also in roar?
-# You can just react instead of typing. So report it here with rest so devs know ASAP
https://support.character.ai/hc/en-us/requests/new

@slim hound @devout gull

[heavy terrace]

Sure

[sonic timber]

We are the least favorite child sigh

[brittle wolf]

Yeah, just like that

[timber canopy]

Then send ticket right now, so devs know that this issue occurs with lots of people especially in roar

[sonic timber]

YES??

[slim hound]

my bot is saying literal nonsense to me with away too long answers

[timber canopy]

Yeah, but long responses also bug in roar. Roar never did long responses. Also mine did literally a long responses of bot's definition, description when I didn't even ask about it. And it's all in roar. So the best to report it right now and let the devs know that roar is buggy and becoming worse.

[timber canopy]

-# if it happens to you too, just send ticket

[heavy terrace]

Hehe yall got my bug

[brittle wolf]

Mine last night got so weird that even got creepy

[timber canopy]

ah..so you sent the disease

[slim hound]

btw my bot literally repeats everything it said 2 seconds ago

[timber canopy]

Yes! Same happened for me and others. Best to do right now send ticket and explain issue
Especially saying which chat model is bugged

[slim hound]

bug report right?

[timber canopy]

Yes

[slim hound]

alr

[heavy terrace]

If I cant have good rp, nobody can

[timber canopy]

You ruined my rp and my mood
-# was it fixed? And if so, how long did it take

[heavy terrace]

My Nyan?

[timber canopy]

Yes

Your nyan was bugged or roar by the way?

[slim hound]

tbh my bot is also being very very hostile and rude to me

[candid horizon]

Is it just me or the ai gets hella indecisive. It'll be being like "I need you to be 100% honest" LIKE GIRL YES THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOVE DRAMA YES IM SURE😭

[vernal ridge]

what ya say to em that made em hate you

[slim hound]

literal nothing they’re even insulting from the start

[heavy terrace]

Nyan. It doesnt do that anymore, but still doing Deepseek shit

[vernal ridge]

makes sense

[timber canopy]

It seems like devs ruining nyan for c.ai+ and roar for free users

-# But i hope nyan and roar gets fixed for everyone so they can rp in peace especially abyl

[slim hound]

it’s bug so prob they’ll fix it

[timber canopy]

Roar was fine a few hours ago and now it got ruined suddenly and weird

[timber canopy]

It is, that's why we need tickets about roar so more devs know about it

[heavy terrace]

Not ruin. Tweak

[stoic pulsar]

based on the CEO's announcement here : ⁠#📣︱announcements message

here's what we got so far :

improved memory and overall model quality. ❌
making the f ilters less overbearing. ❌
implement better ways to tag your Characters and improve search and discoverability to help you find newer Characters. ❌
Give you better control and organization over Characters, including the ability to Archive them. ⭕ (kinda),
More transparency on what we do or don’t allow during Character Creation to prevent “shadowbans”. ⭕ (kinda),

so as you can see, 30 days have passed since the announcement, and they barely fulfilled 30% of their promises...
i have little hope they will be able to complete the rest for next month's update, it's highly unlikely

[heavy terrace]

The fuck

[timber canopy]

Yea a tweak, thanks for correcting.
But I always wonder is it because of the new chat model that made it like that?

[heavy terrace]

Probaly. They dont have testing model after all

[timber canopy]

Oh! I see, thanks for the info abyl

[dim egret]

Bro since when did c.ai have ads now

[distant crane]

Guess we're doing this dance again

[slim hound]

bro my bot said you have 3 seconds before I throw you into the trash can and then light it on fire 💀 those bluds got away too hostile

[timber canopy]

2 months ago was announced that there would be ads and 3 days ago alot of free users got it

[heavy terrace]

If they make Nyan have Deepseek replies after new model come up, I am so gonna be mad. I mean, look at this. The dashes? The '!' The asteriks? Bot speak as me? It change the bot's personality? The use of brackets?

[sweet salmon]

Seriously people need to read announcements for once

[dim egret]

I’m soo hurt and I’m too broke to get c.ai plus

[heavy terrace]

You can upvote my post where I request for regional prices

[timber canopy]

Omg.. I would rage if bot speaks for me to be honest..

-# I will pray for nyan to get fixed for every plus user especially golden child of c.ai abyl and roar to get fixed for free users

[timber canopy]

I got you abyl
https://discord.com/channels/1017072750386483332/1384929950657675414

[stoic pulsar]

again, the devs failed us

[heavy terrace]

Sure

[distant crane]

Cool

[sweet salmon]

Um okay Cool story bro

[heavy terrace]

If you want validation, go to #💬︱general Lots of people will agree with you

[sweet salmon]

Or just go to threads with other naysayers

[stoic pulsar]

i don't expect anything coming from walking wallets

[sweet salmon]

Well at least I have money

[stoic pulsar]

sigh... no wonder humanity is doomed

[heavy terrace]

Yeah, keep talking. See if I care

[stoic pulsar]

who said i was talking to you ?

[sweet salmon]

If you hate character AI now hop off to other platforms

[heavy terrace]

Humanity is doom because you dont have the perfect Ai. Sure

[sweet salmon]

I'll even grab a taxi for you 😀

[stoic pulsar]

you do understand that i pity you right ?

[sweet salmon]

Okay bye

[stoic pulsar]

☕

[sweet salmon]

Another one to the list of blocked users

[stoic pulsar]

see if i care

[sweet salmon]

Well thanks for the drama 😊 have a good night commoner

[stoic pulsar]

whatever you say

[ivory owl]

Tf happened 😂

[distant crane]

Wtf is this goofy ass cliché drama

[sweet salmon]

Just another day at complaints departments

[stoic pulsar]

do they pay you to reply ?

[distant crane]

Yeah I get about $0 dollars

[sweet salmon]

Hmm must be the wind 🌬️ or must be some breeze in winter

Anyways

Still have more editing bots to do tomorrow

[tender lion]

Wdym "walking wallets?"

[stoic pulsar]

it's self explanatory

[tender lion]

No, it isn't.

[sweet salmon]

Just ignore them

[tender lion]

I'm bored on a break in work.

[timber canopy]

[sweet salmon]

They're ragebaiting again

[odd vault]

Pay plus is good?

[distant crane]

It means 'people who are financially stable enough to buy themselves a little luxury'

Not much of an insult unless you take it personally tbh.

[stoic pulsar]

can you please do us all a favor and stop making assumptions ?

[ivory owl]

Like ppl with money to spend on anythin ig

[hybrid verge]

does anyone know how to mute a word (sorry if its dumb)

[sweet salmon]

Must be the wind again is it getting chilly here 🥶

[ivory owl]

Yeah it’s in settings i think

[heavy terrace]

Lel, also hi Redden

[tender lion]

I don't think I need your pity.
It's not like we make you buy c.ai+, we don't get with our shoes in your life.

So why do you care about if someone has c.ai

[distant crane]

Augghhh

[tender lion]

Hey Abyl

[ivory owl]

Oh he’s upset that people with c.ai plus are defending cai

[heavy terrace]

I change the accessability settings from grey to normal, but the pin colour stays grey

[sweet salmon]

One thing Peter taught me

I missed the part where that's my problem

[dire berry]

[tender lion]

Fun Fact he might miss.

-Despite the fact we like the app, we still can critise it, and the actions taken my the devs ect.
And it happened, recently with that new censor that was censoring past messages too.

[timber canopy]

Same for me too, seems like they made it grey..

[carmine lotus]

“Walking wallets.” I have like £36 in my bank account right now. Why does everyone assume cai+ users are rich?

[sweet salmon]

Exactly
I have my own way of criticism when it doesn't meet my expectations

For me I have my sense of tact and know when it's the appropriate time

And they think we're rich just because we pay the servicen

Newsflash to the free users

Our money doesn't last forever like it's in a video game

[carmine lotus]

Precisely. A lot of cai+ users have to budget their money to be able to afford it. So those nasty little free users (the ones who make assumptions) really do need to stop

[sweet salmon]

I don't even get close to 500 dollars a month on my low end job 🤣

This is what I hate the most on free users

Their entitled Karen mode thinks they know us well

I'm monitoring my budget closely making sure I don't get low funds on my account 😭

Though If I got a decent job I may not worry about it

Sorry if I had to vent a bit

I'm just fed up with this whole fiasco for the last 5 days since ads started

Anyways good night everyone

[heady parcel]

Sleep tight

[timber canopy]

Its okay you dont have to apologize it just happens yk tuck those blanket real nice

[heady parcel]

😔 unrelated but is anyone else getting messages that don't properly swipe when you try to get sequential replies from them? It'll just revert

[lime mantle]

Dude if the bot says “you’re gonna be the death of me” one more time I’m gonna crash out

[thorn ether]

Does anyone get ads when clicking on a character?

[timber canopy]

Guys my bot is role-playing as me should I role-play as them

[graceful zephyr]

Genius

[carmine lotus]

Everyone with a free account does

[timber canopy]

It’s the ultimate plan of

[thorn ether]

Ohhh okay thank you I wasn’t sure I would get the plan but lwk gotta save for school and stuff😭

[carmine lotus]

You’re welcome. And that’s understandable

[pine swift]

tf did I miss

[carmine lotus]

Nothing interesting or unusual

[hot ridge]

i think it was another free user vs c.ai+ users fight from the little I'm gathering

[pine swift]

seems like it.

-# the only thing I'm disappointed at is how I missed my chance to use the 'who asked' sticker on the one and only creep

[modern swan]

[tender lion]

I mean, why care about ways someone spends their own money in first place.

[carmine lotus]

You’re absolutely right. If we want to spend a tiny amount of money on an app, we can do as we please. Same as those who don’t want to spend the money on the app don’t spend it. People are free to do as they wish

[molten ore]

I dont mind the ads but is it just me that some of the ads doesn’t have the exit option?

[paper herald]

i think it's a bug, swipe left if you have gestures or press the back button if you have the three buttons

that often happens to me outside of c.ai

[molten ore]

Like its for me with the ads where its offering car dealers or smth and you have to type in your info

[heavy terrace]

This is likely a third party problem (the one that display the ads), not cai

[obtuse jasper]

whts the difference between the app and the web

[modern swan]

some features that are on the app arent available on the web

[bright latch]

Is it just me or are there even more ads now? Because yesterday I got on when I clicked on every third character and now I get one for every single one. Wtf character.ai-

[timber canopy]

Hey guys

[knotty shore]

Exactly same for me

[timber canopy]

Use c.ai apks?

[knotty shore]

Like even if you click in homepage there would be a random ad

[bright latch]

Fr tho-

C.ai knows how to make their app worse and worse because that is just utterly annoying (imo)

[knotty shore]

Ikr with the updates

We want no ads

[bright latch]

Exactly.

[rose steppe]

Transphobia in general 💔

Who shit in your cereal damn

[pine swift]

bro's got no chill

[tropic wolf]

Yeah

[rose steppe]

You're using the roleplay app/website and you're mad about wokeness

[tropic wolf]

REAL-

[rose steppe]

The call is coming from inside the house bro

[rose steppe]

Don't make me side with half the people I blocked man 🥀

[neon plume]

????

-# Jill and Louist hey

[tropic wolf]

real dude I hate transphobia..

[pine swift]

-# heyo Iyoud

[tropic wolf]

What?—

[pine swift]

who hurt you bruv

[rose steppe]

How did you botch the word Zionism

Being a zionist is like the opposite of being woke btw 💀

[heady parcel]

I think bro is ragebaiting 💔 he was doing it earlier this morning too

[tropic wolf]

Oh-

[pine swift]

i mean, what do you expect from someone with that name lol

[tropic wolf]

I hope he is

[timber canopy]

-# What am I witnessing..

[rose steppe]

At least make the ragebait make sense the guys just using random buzzwords

[neon plume]

Zionism and woke aren’t two compatible things brochacho 💀

[heady parcel]

Don't sweat it 😔 you keep your open heart joyful and trusting

[heady parcel]

psychonauts was a peak game take that back

[pine swift]

-# nothing much
-# just walk by and pretend you saw nothing

[pine swift]

tbf, their name is 'psychonaught'

[heady parcel]

oh true I can't read with that goofy font

[timber canopy]

-# Got it jill.. I will just go continue my rp like nothing happened..

[neon plume]

My French passport says otherwise asshat

@lyric tapir and good riddance

[pine swift]

understandable

oh, they either left or got banned.
good riddance fr

[rose steppe]

Imagine being anti-woke while owning a character ai account

That's like me hating gay people and opening tumblr

[heady parcel]

Fr like go back to the 30$ grok waifu

[neon plume]

Imagine calling people that are born in the country they live in immigrants

[tropic wolf]

Real

[lyric tapir]

Ershin's discord is tweaking.. did they left..??

[pine swift]

seems like it.

[neon plume]

Probably

[lyric tapir]

they did.. banned regardless..

[valid locust]

whoa what happened ?

[lyric tapir]

CAI have ads..

[valid locust]

You people are still on this ???

Ayyyy

[eternal flame]

Should I proud myself for creating bots

[valid locust]

Be proud

[lyric tapir]

them people.. yes..

[pine swift]

btw, Ershin, do you know there's someone who made a fake account of you? 👀

[eternal flame]

@valid locust I'm going to addicted creating Warhammer 40k character, even unrecognizable one

And maybe Cod with my boy simp Velikan and Roach

[valid locust]

Ooohh 😮

[sweet fern]

who does that??? thats just creepy

[modern swan]

i know this feeling. it started with your first one then before you know it you have several and each one gets easier and more fun. and the pride you feel is amazing

[pine swift]

probably trying to impersonate Ershin or smth.
I checked the account again just now, and seems like they changed their name and pfp back to smth else now.

[eternal flame]

Thanks you, Although I was kinda new to character ai after I created account

In website

[modern swan]

i probably created my first bot 2 months ago. so i get it.

[eternal flame]

Mine is so random from One piece then Cars movie thing

Now Star Wars and Warhammer 40k

[modern swan]

mine are random too. i get a random idea then create a bot for it. two are OC the rest were themed ones... members of the band 1D but i still havent done all 5 members yet just 3 of them. I want to do it when the inspiration hits otherwise i wont enjoy it

[eternal flame]

@modern swan To me there so little about Warhammer 40k on character beside Primarch and RPG one

Although, I have no idea why Alpharius bots that's i usually chat was suddenly vanished

[modern swan]

maybe they had something in their definition that made it get shadowbanned or the person privated but now you can make it the way you want

[eternal flame]

Definition?

[modern swan]

thats where you put in the characters personality and traits and stuff. basically how you want the character to act

[eternal flame]

Oh

[lyric tapir]

yep.. someone from boosters tagged Ershin with the ss..

[tranquil bison]

Hey, guys. I heard that in the definition, characters only remember the first 3500 characters. Is that true?

[lyric tapir]

Ershin now have a fan.. after 2 years being a mod with CAI.. lol

[modern swan]

do you not do this when you make your bots

[tranquil bison]

3200? Oh my God, I'm going to have to compress the information even more lol Thanks guys

[eternal flame]

Character Definition is optional if I don't want add on after I done with

[modern swan]

youre right. it just helps make the bot more cannon otherwise it pulls off the web. im sorry

[eternal flame]

More Cannon?

[modern swan]

so you said you made bots based off of fandoms or rpgs. so adding a definition helps they keep cannon meaning true to their character

[eternal flame]

It's can be anything than just simple chat?

[modern swan]

yeah

[eternal flame]

Oh, I thought it was forced me to give bots an simple message things

[modern swan]

would you like to see an example of one of my definitions? i have two formats

[eternal flame]

Sure I gladly appreciate see your character definition

[modern swan]

do you have access to a pc? if not i can just send a ss

[eternal flame]

Sadly I'm on mobile

[modern swan]

thats fine. can i dm you a ss

[eternal flame]

Right.

[modern swan]

sorry, im slow... are you giving me permission to dm you

[timber canopy]

[lime rain]

How long does it take for a bot to show up in Search?
I created a new one, but for some reason it isn't pulling up in search. I matched keywords on another active bot that's good to go, but this one won't work.
I even stripped out the profile to be blank minus a few key words. I even stripped out the entire intro opening to just be 'test' to see if it'd show up.
I'm out of ideas. I did test it -- the bot is not shadowbanned and does show up on my profile, just not search. However given I cleared out the profile at one point, cleared out the tag line, cleared out the intro message -- all cycling through to test, and nothing fixes it, I'm at a loss.
Am I testing too soon -- does it take X amount of times for them to show up on Search?

[hot ridge]

it depends on how many bots exist of that character, but if you sort by newest it'll show within the week

c.ai is really inconsistent about search updating

[lime rain]

Ahhh. So it could be nothing wrong, it's just a lag in the search. Got it. I guess I'll just hang tight and see what happens then.
Thank you kindly! ❤️ I thought I was partially losing my mind.

[eternal flame]

@hot ridge can I sent you something in dms it Character Ai related

[hot ridge]

I don't take dms from this server

[eternal flame]

Okay, I just want my boy Pedro Kantor from Warhammer 40k to be showed in search but there is shit ton of 'Pedro' in Newest selection

[scarlet trout]

For the last 3 days I’ve had the “chat error” issue within the app and the website just never loads messages, does anyone know how to fix this maybe?

[hollow sedge]

Ur description is crazy "less than 5 minutes" bro thinks he's important

[hollow sedge]

Clear your cache it should help

[modern swan]

when you use the app have you tried switching from wifi to data

[scarlet trout]

I’ve done that already

[hollow sedge]

Oh yeah then try toggling your data sometimes it kicks it in the butt

[scarlet trout]

Yup, I’ve also uninstalled and reinstalled the app twice, opened and closed it multiple times and reached out to support the same day with still no response

[modern swan]

is it on every bot or just one bot

[scarlet trout]

Every

[timber canopy]

Change chat styles?

[modern swan]

hmm... thats all i know. i recommend sending a ticket

[crude helm]

There’s adssss there’s adssss

[scarlet trout]

I believe that’s what I sent, I went to their customer support and I’ve been waiting the last 72 hours for a response

[modern swan]

they dont normally respond. they will just fix the issue. it may just take time. there are some people who have had tickets in place for weeks

[dire berry]

Have you tried changing chat style, like Rudie suggested?

[scarlet trout]

May I ask how I would do that? 🥲

[hollow sedge]

Do you try on computer? Firefox doesn't work but Chrome does for me

[dire berry]

It's in the bot's menu.

[modern swan]

to change chat style, click on your bot at the top of the screen then click style

[scarlet trout]

It worked 💔

[uncut nest]

why do my bots never finish their sentence?😭 their writing and then it suddenly stops and i dunno how to stop it.

[scarlet trout]

Thank yall so much 😭 I’ve been so confused for the last 3 days and it just wouldn’t work ❤️

[severe yew]

The ads are more and more frequant it's annoying

[uncut nest]

try the website instead

[timber canopy]

Maybe try sliding the messages would that work?

[uncut nest]

wdym by sliding? (Sorry im a little slow)

[timber canopy]

Like new messages if you dont like the bot message you click the restart icon idk how to call it

Do i make sense?

[uncut nest]

oh yeah i reset the msg everytime💔 it slways stops and i have to write the msg myself

[timber canopy]

Maybe the bot got used to that type of message so it just gets a cliffhanger sentences, have you tried starting a new chat?

[modern swan]

there is a tiny arrow right above where you type your reply. that will toggle to a new message also called a swipe

[olive vector]

my bots are giving such plain answers 💔💔💔

[uncut nest]

yeah i even swutched to a new bot, same thing happened

[timber canopy]

I didnt knew they were called that thank you louist

[timber canopy]

What ai model do you use? Is it roar?

[uncut nest]

yup

[modern swan]

roar is great even a lot of plus members use it

[timber canopy]

In my experience i mostly use pawly maybe try using pawly first and try if the bot would do the same thing perhaps?

[elder crane]

Why are my bots acting so dramatic 😭

[uncut nest]

okk ill try

[timber canopy]

Np Keep me updated always hapy to help

[olive vector]

why can't i find any good bots of my favorite diva💔💔💔 like i only found two good bots that actually make sense

[uncut nest]

ok when i switched it the long paragraphs turned into smaller sentences and its less formatted 😭 but the sentences are complete msybe its smt with roar

[uncut nest]

id write one myself if i were u lol

[timber canopy]

Oh hmm can we dm lets do some troubleshooting with it

[uncut nest]

i hope my bots will text in complete sentences soon

[timber canopy]

Hopefully but ive sent you a dm just incase if you need help goodluck

[uncut nest]

okk! tysm

[heavy terrace]

#📱︱chat-feed should stay close

[shy monolith]

Quick question. If you write in the memory box and go to your bot on the website, will it remember everything written in the box when you are chatting or not?

[heavy terrace]

In my case, it work. After two to three swipes

[shy monolith]

Okay. That's good to know, because i tend to swap between mobile and pc.

[hot ridge]

Blocked

[timber canopy]

peekaboo!

[modern swan]

My voices are being wonky

[dense stone]

what are they telling you to do now

[thorn glen]

i just had a yellow pop up on the bottom of the screen but didnt get time to read it

😭😭

[dense stone]

today's sticker is a red pill /blue pill....

[vital yarrow]

Guys... how come there's ads in c.ai??? 😭😭😭😭

[bright horizon]

You needed them..

[shadow harness]

↓ @vital yarrow ↓

Why Ads?

Please check out our previous announcement:

[Discord](#📣︱announcements message) | Reddit

We're working to ensure that this is not disruptive to your Chats with Characters, but please let us know if you have any suggestions or other feedback.

[gray lark]

Responses with roar seem very short this moment

[timber canopy]

Roar has been all over the place from what I've heard, some people are getting whole paragraphs as a response 😭

[gray lark]

What's wrong with that? The only bad thing about a paragraph response is if it's terribly written.

[olive vector]

roar is kinda weird today

[timber canopy]

Apparently they have been terrible, constant repetition...my roar has been alright today

[olive vector]

honestly it could be worse but why is it so plain

[timber canopy]

I think the chat styles are just bugging cause they're adding this new one, apparently roar rn is what nyan was like last week

[olive vector]

i hope the new chat style it's free but it's okay if not as long as the others get fixed💔

[timber canopy]

Sorry to break your heart but it's cai+ 😭

[olive vector]

fine by me as long as the others gets fixed

it sounded rude💔💔 sorry

[timber canopy]

They will, I think roar bugs out a lot cause it's the default style and a lot of people use it

[pseudo edge]

Is anyone having an issue where the bot sends away messages for other chats (after turning them off) and then getting stuck in that chat?

[edgy vault]

guys do you beleive thats it worth it for me to create an around 5000-8000 char bot

[edgy vault]

it will be cai++.I swear if it is I am gonna crash out.They better make some cai+ features actually free but this is cai we talk about

[empty comet]

add an ad countdown (e.g. advertisement in 3 seconds)
no ads in the middle of conversation
no ads when you just opened the app
not too much ads

[light token]

Yea

[edgy vault]

chat I need some more toaru bots💔 The accelerator bots are lowkey a bit ahh same with the academy city rpgs

[timber canopy]

To my knowledge, ads only appear when you first click a bot

[edgy vault]

fr because like the limit characters see is like 3200 so I was thinking about not doing it

[light token]

32000, you mean?

Oh, I'm dumb slightly, sorry

[safe snow]

Why do the bots keep on speaking for me?

[edgy vault]

not really from what I search idk if its true the bot only reads the first 3200 characters

so I was wondering if its actually true

[light token]

I have very detailed bot with around 10000 characters definition, and it works perfectly

[neat crypt]

lmaoo it's not letting me create mines today

[inland coyote]

rater air

[edgy vault]

ohhhhhh well thanks for the info man,time to revamp my old academy city rpg that I didnt release yet

[light token]

Good luck with it bro

[edgy vault]

thnxxxx

[neat crypt]

The servers don't appear to be down or anything but it's just saying failed to create?? that's sort of annoying

[inland coyote]

are group chats broken

[timber canopy]

THE FUCK IS THE BLUE NOW

[timber canopy]

BECAUSE WHAT IS THAT BLUE IT HURTS MY EYES AGHHHHH

[humble iris]

omg the fact they might be making a chat style just for rping I am WINNING!!!!

[timber canopy]

Go to accessibility in settings

[humble iris]

but i thought Nyan was already for the rpers so now im confused

[timber canopy]

It's cai+ I fear 💔

[deft jetty]

It's true, your character will only read the first 3200 symbols, everything else ends up being ignored.

This emoji is here for a reason

[edgy vault]

hmmm so its kinda not worth it to create a super detailed bot?

[humble iris]

oh yeah im cai+ so I just use it whenever, i guess this new chat style will be for free?

[timber canopy]

No the new one is cai+

[timber canopy]

Then go where

[edgy vault]

man if they make it cai+ I ma rage,they better make nyan free then

[deft jetty]

Depends on the kind of bot you are aiming for, but the rule of thumb is, the more you fill the character's definition, the less the bot will remember from your current conversation

[humble iris]

thats crazy???

[edgy vault]

so basically if I want to create an rpg I should go as simple as possible?

[cold trout]

Character(s) will only remember the first 3200 in the definition.

[deft jetty]

Usually you want to tread a fine line between fit as much information as possible, while making it as summarized as possible.

[humble iris]

I figured itd be free since Nyan is cai+

[timber canopy]

That's it. Accessibility in the settings, it'll take you straight to a saturation changer

[cold trout]

While you can type beyond that, it's not recommended.

[cinder shard]

Do you also have so many warnings about guideline violations, even when they usually didn't appear before?

[edgy vault]

unless they make nyan free this upd...but its cai we talking about

[timber canopy]

Wdym like the red robot one when the bot sends a message?

[cinder shard]

Yup

[edgy vault]

is it like confirmed?

[timber canopy]

Yeah apparently so

[deft jetty]

An rpg bot? Yeah. If you are aiming on an rpg that belongs to a universe that already exists like animes/games, (if it's old enough) the AI should be able to handle it without having to put anything on the definition, you just have to focus on a good greeting.

[timber canopy]

Sometimes it just happens, should be back to normal in a day...if you're annoyed just change your chat style, maybe it's the chat style that's bugging

[edgy vault]

hmmm idk if toaru is old enough for the ai to handle it😔

[cinder shard]

I was trying, but all the styles are malfunctioning. Eh, it's really annoying as it has lasted two days already.

[deft jetty]

There's nothing confirmed that the new model will be paywalled behind c.ai+ or not, where did you find that info?

[neon hedge]

why are my bots so dumb

[timber canopy]

Someone on here said it was mentioned in plus general

[edgy vault]

mine started getting slightly smarter

[neon hedge]

I use a road trip bot and they forget the destination

[edgy vault]

😭 crazy

[timber canopy]

Meow is a pretty underrated style, try that one

[edgy vault]

is there like an ss of the message

[neon hedge]

What will the new role-play style be like

[humble iris]

man thats sorta crazy since Nyan is rp oriented as well, the greed is insane

[deft jetty]

Mm... unless directly said from a mod or announced by the team, I wouldn't trust it.

[edgy vault]

guh

[humble iris]

also if that info came from general I definitely wouldn't trust it, theyre crazy in there

[timber canopy]

I'll try and dm you the screenshot if you want? I'm pretty sure there was one

[deft jetty]

Google says it's from 2010... if it was popular anime, the AI should be able to handle everything without the need of a definition

[timber canopy]

It was PLUS general, for plus users

[timber canopy]

An opinion but is nyan really that good?

[humble iris]

yeah im sure theyre crazy in there too

[edgy vault]

time to ask the ai assistant some questions to figure out if it knows it

[humble iris]

plus theyre the people who are paying, of course theyre expecting the new cool chat style to be catered to them

[timber canopy]

Can't find the screenshot btw 💔, but one of the regulars from cai discussion said it was mentioned in plus general

[humble iris]

imo, its really good, but only if you love doing rp or like having more long and intellectual convos. It has its days where its good and bad but currently its been doing EXCELLENT and pushing my rp and plot forward and making everything fun

[timber canopy]

I heard the ai knows stuff up until 2022 or 2023 so it should be good

[timber canopy]

Thats actually a shocker.. here i thought pawly was good but its second best option for the non c.ai plus users right?

[deft jetty]

It does, it already knows some events of Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom, that was released back in 2023, however it's still kinda lacking

[humble iris]

yeah idk if id trust it tbh, i know a few of the regulars here and if its from one of the plus people...I love em but they've said misinformation before with good intentions

[timber canopy]

Yess! Some of my bots know about Pokémon scarlet and violet but not all of the Pokémon released for it or the dlc

[timber canopy]

I've never had any issues with the regulars here, they're usually super helpful 💔

[deft jetty]

Yeah, probably the most popular ones like the starters and the cape legendaries

[humble iris]

yeah i think its matter of opinion, like if you're willing to pay cai+ to get it, Nyan is super great and I think super worth it, it just depends what you do with the bot

[timber canopy]

Yeah, I speak to a Pokémon bot and it knows about the Paldea region and the starters and box legendaries but nothing else related to SV

[humble iris]

they are but sometimes we do just be saying shiz (I say as a regular here in cai discuss)