Discord Lagging

[barren urchin]

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[outer warren]

Enabled Plugins (54):

AccountPanelServerProfile, AlwaysExpandRoles, AnonymiseFileNames, BetterGifAltText, BetterRoleContext, BetterSettings, BiggerStreamPreview, BlurNSFW, CallTimer, CrashHandler, CustomRPC, Decor, EmoteCloner, FakeNitro, FavoriteGifSearch, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendsSince, GameActivityToggle, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NewGuildSettings, NoF1, NoProfileThemes, NoReplyMention, NoTypingAnimation, NoUnblockToJump, OpenInApp, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ReverseImageSearch, RoleColorEverywhere, SendTimestamps, ServerInfo, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentTyping, SpotifyCrack, Translate, UnlockedAvatarZoom, UserVoiceShow, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, YoutubeAdblock

[bronze nest]

Enabled Plugins (29):

CallTimer, CrashHandler, Decor, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, HideAttachments, InvisibleChat, KeepCurrentChannel, MessageLogger, MoreKaomoji, NoBlockedMessages, OpenInApp, PermissionsViewer, PlatformIndicators, PreviewMessage, ReadAllNotificationsButton, Summaries, ServerInfo, ServerListIndicators, Translate, TypingIndicator, USRBG, ViewIcons, VoiceMessages, WebKeybinds, WhoReacted, YoutubeAdblock

[trim steppe]

Enabled Plugins (45):

AlwaysExpandRoles, BiggerStreamPreview, ClearURLs, CrashHandler, CustomRPC, Decor, Experiments, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FixCodeblockGap, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, FriendsSince, FullUserInChatbox, ImplicitRelationships, MemberCount, MentionAvatars, MessageClickActions, MessageLogger, NoF1, NormalizeMessageLinks, PermissionFreeWill, PictureInPicture, PlainFolderIcon, PlatformIndicators, ReadAllNotificationsButton, ReviewDB, RoleColorEverywhere, SendTimestamps, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowHiddenChannels, SilentTyping, SpotifyCrack, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UserMessagesPronouns, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, ViewIcons, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes, WhoReacted, YoutubeAdblock

[normal crater]

i went through my giant bodged theme real quick, removed things i thought were causing this. notable:

• horizontal server list: not the issue
• @font-face mods: not the issue
• emoji mods, hiding chat bar buttons: not the issue
  list goes on and on. the solution for me was to remove the import for the Icon Revert, @import url('https://davart154.github.io/Themes/Icon%20Revert%202023/2023%20Icon%20Revert.css');
  hovering server icons no longer is 2fps to show the pill

[rotund prism]

Enabled Plugins (75):

AlwaysExpandRoles, BetterFolders, BetterNotesBox, BetterRoleContext, BetterSessions, BetterSettings, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ClientTheme, ColorSighted, ConsoleJanitor, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CopyStickerLinks, CopyUserURLs, CrashHandler, Decor, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FavoriteGifSearch, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FullUserInChatbox, GameActivityToggle, MemberCount, MentionAvatars, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoF1, NoOnboardingDelay, NoTypingAnimation, NoUnblockToJump, PauseInvitesForever, PermissionFreeWill, PermissionsViewer, petpet, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, ReactErrorDecoder, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ReverseImageSearch, ReviewDB, RoleColorEverywhere, Summaries, SendTimestamps, ServerInfo, ServerListIndicators, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowMeYourName, ShowTimeoutDuration, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyCrack, TextReplace, ThemeAttributes, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UnlockedAvatarZoom, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, VcNarrator, VencordToolbox, ViewIcons, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, WhoReacted, YoutubeAdblock

[long abyss]

I tested three themes, clearvision (has massive slowdowns), frostedglass (doesnt have any issues), notanothernaimetheme (also has no issues), could help but probably not

[trim steppe]

okay i just tested it seems the problematic ones are possibly decor and USRBG

it could be others but this fixed my lag by turning them off

[long abyss]

can confirm on usrbg causing lag, but decor doesnt do anything to me

[glass bolt]

I'm a contributor to ClearVision, we've pushed a fix for the massive lag. Judging the CSS that was removed, combining :has() with * is probably not a smart idea.

[barren urchin]

thank u leafy

[normal crater]

i did a check through the whole icon revert css i removed for a :has() *. on line 1089 it has .buttonWrapper__24af7:has(.lottieIcon__5eb9b) > * , and after commenting out the line, hovering the server icon no longer lags.
weird how css thats gone [theres no buttonWrapper__24 at all in devtools] and is meant to refer to the settings gear in the bottom profile section can cause this slowdown

[magic maple]

im trying to send /vencord-plugins but it says the message is too big, if i click on "send as file" it wont do anything other than close the pop-up.

Vencord: v1.11.3 • 4f5ebec (Standalone) - 31 Jan 2025
Client: stable ~ Discord Desktop v1.0.9180
Platform: Win32
Last Crash Reason: N/A

i already disabled all my themes and css

[mint sinew]

as a heads-up: my slowdown culprit was disblock origin, but i always seem to have lag issues with similar annoyance blockers.

even before the current issue.

[barren urchin]

> * is about the worst possible thing you can do, so makes sense

[tidal lintel]

SHC has it, this might be the cause

3 selectors like that

[glass bolt]

will push this upstream to remove all the > * stuff soontm

on another note i'm trying to petition the other contribs to remake the theme from the ground up and call that v7 or whatever to address a lot of the problems of an old poorly written scss base

[normal apex]

id sign it

[barren urchin]

this selector should be no problem

it's only catastrophic if the left selector is complex

like a .foo:has() > *

that's worst performing selector possible

[tidal lintel]

so weird that vencord is having that issue then

[barren urchin]

look for complex selectors or selectors that use :has()

and remove them

[tidal lintel]

it's just this

that's the only usage of :has

[barren urchin]

> div (any html element) is also bad

it's basically the same as > *

[tidal lintel]

same thing tho

[barren urchin]

keep in mind some plugins also add css dynamically with code

[glass bolt]

i'll keep all of this in mind

[barren urchin]

the reason is that css goes from right to left

if your right selector is very generic and your left selector is very complex, then it will possibly run your complex selector a shit ton of times and cause massive lag

normally you shouldn't have to worry about this, but somehow discord managed to make their site cause insane lag if you dare add one imperfect line of css

[normal crater]

theres gotta be some irony there [im too tired to find it]

[tidal hound]

Enabled Plugins (67):

AlwaysExpandRoles, AlwaysTrust, BetterRoleContext, BetterSessions, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ConsoleJanitor, CopyFileContents, CopyUserURLs, CrashHandler, Decor, DisableCallIdle, DontRoundMyTimestamps, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FavoriteGifSearch, FixCodeblockGap, FixImagesQuality, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, FriendsSince, GreetStickerPicker, iLoveSpam, ImageLink, ImplicitRelationships, LastFMRichPresence, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, NewGuildSettings, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoMaskedUrlPaste, NoOnboardingDelay, NoPendingCount, NoReplyMention, NoTypingAnimation, NoUnblockToJump, NormalizeMessageLinks, PermissionFreeWill, ReactErrorDecoder, RoleColorEverywhere, Summaries, ServerInfo, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, StartupTimings, ThemeAttributes, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, Unindent, UserMessagesPronouns, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes, YoutubeAdblock

cleared out themes & quickcss and while it did help a little it's still very bad

[vivid token]

Enabled Plugins (47):

AlwaysTrust, BetterNotesBox, BetterSessions, BetterSettings, ClearURLs, ClientTheme, CustomIdle, Decor, Experiments, FakeNitro, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, GifPaste, ImageZoom, KeepCurrentChannel, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, Moyai, NoF1, NoPendingCount, NoTypingAnimation, NSFWGateBypass, OnePingPerDM, PermissionsViewer, PlainFolderIcon, PlatformIndicators, QuickMention, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RevealAllSpoilers, RoleColorEverywhere, SecretRingToneEnabler, ServerInfo, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowMeYourName, SpotifyCrack, StickerPaste, ThemeAttributes, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, ValidUser, ViewIcons, YoutubeAdblock

disabling quickcss seems to fix my performance issues

[vivid token]

and for some reason this css snippet makes my discord lag when scrolling
#🎨-css-snippets message

[heady spade]

Yep, disabling USRBG fixed stutter issues for me, ty

[gray edge]

Enabled Plugins (31):

BetterFolders, BetterRoleContext, BetterSettings, CallTimer, ClearURLs, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CrashHandler, EmoteCloner, FakeNitro, GameActivityToggle, GreetStickerPicker, ImageLink, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageLogger, MessageTags, NewGuildSettings, PermissionFreeWill, PermissionsViewer, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, Translate, UserVoiceShow, ValidReply, ValidUser, VencordToolbox, ViewRaw

[hearty crow]

Enabled Plugins (51):

BetterRoleContext, BetterSessions, BetterUploadButton, CallTimer, ClientTheme, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, F8Break, FavoriteGifSearch, FixCodeblockGap, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, FriendsSince, GifPaste, MemberCount, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, MoreCommands, MoreKaomoji, NewGuildSettings, NoBlockedMessages, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoF1, NoOnboardingDelay, NoPendingCount, NoSystemBadge, NoTypingAnimation, NoUnblockToJump, OnePingPerDM, OpenInApp, PinDMs, RelationshipNotifier, Summaries, ServerInfo, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, SpotifyControls, SpotifyShareCommands, TextReplace, Translate, TypingIndicator, Unindent, USRBG, ValidUser, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, WhoReacted, YoutubeAdblock

[gray edge]

Discord moments begins to load the system very strongly, up to almost 20-30% CPU

[sage lintel]

Unsure if this will be helpful, but just in case it is. Disabling my themes fixes the lag on my end. Revert Discord by Fluffingtons (idk if it's available anywhere anymore, the github is down at least) causes essentially no lag. Discord Recolor by DevilBro causes no lag unless I'm hovering over the icons at the side, which makes it start chugging. The irc theme (<#🎨-css-snippets message>) causes massive lag and makes Discord basically unusable.

I attempted to remove the sections using has() in the irc theme but that didn't seem to make any difference; I don't know anything beyond the ultra basics of CSS though so I could easily have done something wrong.

[knotty shore]

Enabled Plugins (72):

AlwaysExpandRoles, AlwaysTrust, BetterGifPicker, BetterNotesBox, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ConsoleJanitor, CopyFileContents, CrashHandler, Dearrow, FakeNitro, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FavoriteGifSearch, FixCodeblockGap, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendsSince, FullSearchContext, FullUserInChatbox, GifPaste, ImplicitRelationships, KeepCurrentChannel, MentionAvatars, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NewGuildSettings, NoF1, NoMaskedUrlPaste, NoOnboardingDelay, NoPendingCount, NoReplyMention, NoTypingAnimation, NoUnblockToJump, NormalizeMessageLinks, NotificationVolume, OnePingPerDM, PauseInvitesForever, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, PreviewMessage, ReactErrorDecoder, ReplyTimestamp, ReverseImageSearch, ReviewDB, ServerInfo, ShowAllMessageButtons, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, StickerPaste, SuperReactionTweaks, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UnsuppressEmbeds, UserVoiceShow, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, VoiceChatDoubleClick, VencordToolbox, ViewIcons, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, WhoReacted, YoutubeAdblock

[wraith heron]

Enabled Plugins (47):

AccountPanelServerProfile, BetterNotesBox, BetterRoleContext, BetterRoleDot, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, ColorSighted, CrashHandler, Dearrow, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FavoriteGifSearch, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FullSearchContext, FullUserInChatbox, GameActivityToggle, MemberCount, MentionAvatars, MessageLogger, NewGuildSettings, NoServerEmojis, NoTypingAnimation, NormalizeMessageLinks, ReadAllNotificationsButton, ReplaceGoogleSearch, ReverseImageSearch, RoleColorEverywhere, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, SilentTyping, SpotifyControls, ThemeAttributes, Translate, TypingTweaks, UserVoiceShow, ValidReply, ValidUser, VencordToolbox, ViewIcons, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes

[heady spade]

Sadly, it doesn't fix quite lag when opening/close images. Only general stutters

Enabled Plugins (57):

AlwaysExpandRoles, AlwaysTrust, BetterGifAltText, BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ConsoleJanitor, CopyFileContents, CrashHandler, CustomIdle, Dearrow, Decor, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendsSince, ImageZoom, MemberCount, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NoBlockedMessages, NoF1, NoMaskedUrlPaste, NoReplyMention, NoUnblockToJump, OpenInApp, PermissionsViewer, PlatformIndicators, RelationshipNotifier, ServerInfo, ServerListIndicators, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentTyping, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, TextReplace, ThemeAttributes, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UserVoiceShow, ValidUser, VoiceChatDoubleClick, VcNarrator, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, YoutubeAdblock

[elfin geode]

Enabled Plugins (85):

BetterFolders, BetterGifAltText, BetterNotesBox, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CrashHandler, Decor, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FavoriteGifSearch, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, FriendsSince, FullSearchContext, FullUserInChatbox, GameActivityToggle, GreetStickerPicker, ImageLink, ImageZoom, KeepCurrentChannel, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MentionAvatars, MessageClickActions, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NewGuildSettings, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoF1, NoOnboardingDelay, NoPendingCount, NoReplyMention, NoSystemBadge, NoTypingAnimation, NoUnblockToJump, NotificationVolume, NSFWGateBypass, OnePingPerDM, OpenInApp, PermissionFreeWill, PermissionsViewer, PinDMs, PlainFolderIcon, QuickMention, QuickReply, RelationshipNotifier, ReplyTimestamp, ReverseImageSearch, ReviewDB, SecretRingToneEnabler, ServerInfo, ServerListIndicators, ShowConnections, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentMessageToggle, SilentTyping, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyControls, SpotifyShareCommands, StartupTimings, Translate, UnlockedAvatarZoom, UserVoiceShow, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, ViewIcons, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, WhoReacted, YoutubeAdblock

damn i have a lot XD

[buoyant sand]

Enabled Plugins (34):

BetterGifAltText, BetterSessions, BetterSettings, BlurNSFW, CallTimer, CrashHandler, Dearrow, Decor, Experiments, FixImagesQuality, FixYoutubeEmbeds, FriendsSince, FullSearchContext, GameActivityToggle, ImageZoom, InvisibleChat, LoadingQuotes, MessageLogger, NoF1, NoUnblockToJump, PermissionsViewer, petpet, PreviewMessage, ReadAllNotificationsButton, ReverseImageSearch, Summaries, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, Translate, TypingTweaks, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, VolumeBooster

[bold geyser]

Enabled Plugins (34):

AppleMusicRichPresence, BetterSessions, BetterSettings, CallTimer, ClearURLs, DisableCallIdle, Experiments, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, FriendsSince, ImplicitRelationships, MentionAvatars, MoreKaomoji, NoBlockedMessages, NSFWGateBypass, PinDMs, ReadAllNotificationsButton, Summaries, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyCrack, SpotifyShareCommands, ThemeAttributes, Translate, TypingTweaks, UnlockedAvatarZoom, VencordToolbox, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, YoutubeAdblock

Enabled Plugins (20):

AppleMusicRichPresence, CallTimer, Experiments, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, NoBlockedMessages, ReadAllNotificationsButton, Summaries, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ThemeAttributes, Translate, TypingTweaks, UnlockedAvatarZoom, VencordToolbox, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, YoutubeAdblock

disablde some

[silent totem]

Enabled Plugins (63):

AccountPanelServerProfile, AlwaysExpandRoles, BetterNotesBox, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CrashHandler, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FavoriteGifSearch, FixImagesQuality, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, FriendsSince, FullSearchContext, GreetStickerPicker, HideAttachments, iLoveSpam, KeepCurrentChannel, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NoScreensharePreview, NoTypingAnimation, NoUnblockToJump, PermissionsViewer, petpet, PlainFolderIcon, QuickMention, QuickReply, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ReverseImageSearch, ReviewDB, SecretRingToneEnabler, ServerInfo, ShowAllMessageButtons, ShowConnections, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentTyping, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyCrack, Translate, UnlockedAvatarZoom, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, VoiceChatDoubleClick, VencordToolbox, ViewIcons, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, WebContextMenus, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes

[whole ferry]

Enabled Plugins (13):

BetterGifAltText, BetterGifPicker, BetterUploadButton, ConsoleJanitor, CrashHandler, CustomIdle, EmoteCloner, FakeNitro, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, PictureInPicture, SpotifyControls, USRBG

[rotund prism]

i disabled USRBG and suddenly my disdcord is running much faster

[waxen tide]

Enabled Plugins (36):

BetterNotesBox, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ClientTheme, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FixCodeblockGap, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, FriendsSince, GameActivityToggle, MessageClickActions, MoreCommands, NewGuildSettings, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoF1, NoMaskedUrlPaste, NoMosaic, NoProfileThemes, NoTypingAnimation, NormalizeMessageLinks, PauseInvitesForever, PlainFolderIcon, ReadAllNotificationsButton, ServerInfo, SpotifyCrack, VoiceChatDoubleClick, ViewIcons, VolumeBooster, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes, YoutubeAdblock

[glass hedge]

Enabled Plugins (38):

BetterGifPicker, BetterSessions, BetterUploadButton, BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, ClientTheme, CopyUserURLs, CrashHandler, EmoteCloner, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FavoriteGifSearch, FixImagesQuality, FriendsSince, ImageZoom, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MessageLogger, MoreCommands, Moyai, NoOnboardingDelay, petpet, PinDMs, RelationshipNotifier, ServerInfo, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, Translate, UnlockedAvatarZoom, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, ViewIcons, WebContextMenus, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes, WhoReacted

[harsh raptor]

Enabled Plugins (48):

AccountPanelServerProfile, AlwaysAnimate, BetterFolders, BetterGifPicker, BetterRoleContext, BetterSettings, CallTimer, ConsoleJanitor, CrashHandler, DisableCallIdle, DontRoundMyTimestamps, FixImagesQuality, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, FriendsSince, GameActivityToggle, ImplicitRelationships, MemberCount, MentionAvatars, MessageLatency, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NoOnboardingDelay, PermissionsViewer, PlatformIndicators, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ReplyTimestamp, RoleColorEverywhere, SendTimestamps, ServerInfo, ServerListIndicators, ShowAllMessageButtons, ShowConnections, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowMeYourName, ShowTimeoutDuration, StartupTimings, StreamerModeOnStream, TypingIndicator, UserVoiceShow, ValidReply, ValidUser, VoiceChatDoubleClick, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, WhoReacted

[dire quartz]

Enabled Plugins (22):

AccountPanelServerProfile, BetterGifPicker, BetterRoleContext, BetterSettings, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, HideAttachments, ImageZoom, MentionAvatars, MessageLogger, NoUnblockToJump, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, RoleColorEverywhere, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, USRBG, ValidReply, WhoReacted

[dusky plover]

Enabled Plugins (44):

BlurNSFW, CallTimer, CrashHandler, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendsSince, iLoveSpam, ImageZoom, MessageLogger, NoOnboardingDelay, NoUnblockToJump, NotificationVolume, OpenInApp, PermissionFreeWill, PermissionsViewer, petpet, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ReviewDB, Summaries, SendTimestamps, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, SilentMessageToggle, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyControls, SpotifyShareCommands, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UnlockedAvatarZoom, USRBG, ValidUser, VoiceChatDoubleClick, ViewIcons, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, WhoReacted

[outer warren]

same, USRGB and decor disabled and now its great

[nova bloom]

nuked all the > *, > div, and :has in my css, and discord is instantly running smoother

[normal apex]

Can also confirm faster after disabling Usrbg, also AccountPanelServerProfile for some reason too

[wraith cradle]

Vesktop user here.

on windows 11 it seems to lag for a while (i didn't use a stopwatch) and then go back to normal after i alt-tab away to another app

on macos it is constant pain

give me a few seconds to send over my config

Enabled Plugins (94):

AccountPanelServerProfile, AlwaysExpandRoles, BANger, BetterFolders, BetterGifAltText, BetterGifPicker, BetterNotesBox, BetterRoleContext, BetterRoleDot, BetterSessions, BetterSettings, BlurNSFW, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ClientTheme, ColorSighted, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CopyUserURLs, CrashHandler, Dearrow, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendsSince, FullSearchContext, iLoveSpam, IgnoreActivities, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageLatency, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, MessageTags, MoreCommands, MutualGroupDMs, NewGuildSettings, NoF1, NoMosaic, NoPendingCount, NoProfileThemes, NoTypingAnimation, NoUnblockToJump, NormalizeMessageLinks, NotificationVolume, OverrideForumDefaults, PauseInvitesForever, PermissionFreeWill, PermissionsViewer, petpet, PlainFolderIcon, PlatformIndicators, PreviewMessage, QuickMention, ReactErrorDecoder, ReplaceGoogleSearch, ReplyTimestamp, ReverseImageSearch, ReviewDB, RoleColorEverywhere, SecretRingToneEnabler, SendTimestamps, ServerInfo, ServerListIndicators, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowAllMessageButtons, ShowConnections, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowMeYourName, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentMessageToggle, SilentTyping, SortFriendRequests, StartupTimings, StreamerModeOnStream, ThemeAttributes, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UserMessagesPronouns, UserVoiceShow, ValidReply, ValidUser, VoiceChatDoubleClick, VencordToolbox, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, VoiceDownload, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes, YoutubeAdblock

i haven't touched my config yet besides toggling off/on quickcss for vesktop windows for a few moments

for better context, my vesktop on windows setup runs on maximum size windowed mode while my vesktop on macos is a fullscreen app on a separate desktop

oh and i have automatic updates disabled on both installs

Vencord: v1.11.3 • 4f5ebec (Vesktop v1.5.4) - 31 Jan 2025
Client: stable ~ Vesktop v1.5.4
Platform: Win32

Vencord: v1.11.3 • 4f5ebec (Vesktop v1.5.4) - 31 Jan 2025
Client: stable ~ Vesktop v1.5.4
Platform: MacIntel

[tidal cradle]

yeah i just disabled usrbg and now its smooth again 😭

[rose ore]

Enabled Plugins (33):

BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, ClientTheme, CopyFileContents, CrashHandler, Decor, DisableCallIdle, Experiments, FakeNitro, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, MessageClickActions, MessageLogger, MoreKaomoji, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoOnboardingDelay, OverrideForumDefaults, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RevealAllSpoilers, SecretRingToneEnabler, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentTyping, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, Translate, USRBG, VoiceDownload, VolumeBooster, YoutubeAdblock

[livid crypt]

Enabled Plugins (70):

AccountPanelServerProfile, AnonymiseFileNames, BetterFolders, BetterRoleContext, BetterSettings, ClearURLs, ClientTheme, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CopyUserURLs, CrashHandler, CustomRPC, Dearrow, Decor, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FavoriteGifSearch, FixImagesQuality, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, FullSearchContext, GameActivityToggle, GifPaste, GreetStickerPicker, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MentionAvatars, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageTags, MoreKaomoji, NoMosaic, NoReplyMention, NoTypingAnimation, OnePingPerDM, OverrideForumDefaults, PermissionsViewer, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, PreviewMessage, QuickMention, ReactErrorDecoder, ReadAllNotificationsButton, ReplaceGoogleSearch, ReviewDB, RoleColorEverywhere, Summaries, ServerInfo, ServerListIndicators, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowConnections, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentMessageToggle, SilentTyping, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, TextReplace, ThemeAttributes, Translate, TypingTweaks, UserMessagesPronouns, USRBG, ValidUser, VencordToolbox, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes, YoutubeAdblock
```**Enabled UserPlugins (10):**

BigFileUpload, FriendCodes, GlobalBadges, RandomGary, ThemeLibrary, UserFlags, UserpluginInstaller, MessageColors, NewPluginsManager, WigglyText

[latent remnant]

Enabled Plugins (0):

Hmm. I disabled all themes, plugins and CSS to my knowledge, but I'm still getting unusually laggy behavior. It seems a little better with everything disabled but I can still watch it chunk up by holding down 'a' for a while

[barren urchin]

yeah we're fixing that too no worries

[lament mantle]

Enabled Plugins (66):

AccountPanelServerProfile, AlwaysTrust, BANger, BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ClientTheme, ConsoleJanitor, ConsoleShortcuts, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CrashHandler, Decor, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FavoriteGifSearch, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendsSince, GameActivityToggle, GifPaste, ImplicitRelationships, MemberCount, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NewGuildSettings, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoF1, NoPendingCount, NSFWGateBypass, PermissionsViewer, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, PreviewMessage, ReactErrorDecoder, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ReverseImageSearch, Summaries, ServerInfo, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowHiddenChannels, SilentTyping, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, SpotifyShareCommands, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UnsuppressEmbeds, UserVoiceShow, USRBG, ValidUser, VoiceChatDoubleClick, VcNarrator, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes, WhoReacted, XSOverlay, YoutubeAdblock

hii i cleared all my quickcss and it reduced the lag but its still there, i only have a css import for apple emojis, how does that cause lag??

[glass hedge]

usrbg definitely fixed the lag issue,,

[lament mantle]

omg disabling that plugin just fixed it thank u

ima miss my apple emojis, when will quickcss be fixed?

[tidal lintel]

we are fixing the lag caused by Vencord own CSS, however if one of your QuickCSS causes lag too, there is nothing we can do about that as we do not maintain those

so to clarify better: quickcss is not going to be fixed as there is nothing for us to fix on it

[lament mantle]

so how exactly does importing some simple css introduce lag?

[tidal lintel]

by the person who made the css using practices which are performance heavy

[lament mantle]

weird how it just randomly started lagging but alright, disabling USRBG fixed all the lag i was having i dont seem to be getting any lag from other plugins/vencord, so thanks

[tidal lintel]

either way the lag from USRBG is getting fixed very soon

[lament mantle]

alright

[opaque sentinel]

List of plugins that were posted so far, sorted by how often people mentioned them:

[lament mantle]

so i believe i found the culprit

this css was updated 3 days ago

[opaque sentinel]

I thought that the Discord update broke stuff?

[lament mantle]

not sure, im using vesktop for now

so idk if that applies to me

[lament mantle]

this is interesting because i have most of the plugins that where most mentioned, but only usrbg was causing the lag for me

fake nitro, etc doesnt seem to be causing me issues, unless there already updated

[barren urchin]

the same way two lines of css from USRBG plugin cause the lag

[lament mantle]

ah so all this lag is exclusively from css?

i didnt think that was even possible from css damn

is this caused by the 12 line css file that hasent been updated in 2 years

[barren urchin]

yes

it doesn't matter how long ur css is. one single line of css can cause lag

just bad rules

[barren urchin]

normally not but Discord's insane code makes anything possible ;)

[lament mantle]

interesting

[opaque sentinel]

Do you think we could make a completely custom client? Or is that too much work?

[lament mantle]

i think theres been attempts but i just dont think theres enough like demand idk

like no one really cares enough

[opaque sentinel]

It is probably harder because there isn't a good API you can use.

[lament mantle]

oh yeah i was going to say discords official api but that might just be considered self bot

[barren urchin]

there are a few

but they lack many features

Discord is such a massive app, it's virtually impossible for independent developers to make a feature complete client

https://github.com/diamondburned/dissent
https://github.com/uowuo/abaddon

these work well but they lack a lot of features

dissent is better than abaddon imo but dissent doesn't even support vc for example

dissent tries to mimic official discord look, abaddon is very different (not my style)

[lament mantle]

discords docs are terrible for vc

[barren urchin]

and important to note that these break discord tos and you might trip antispam due to sending weird requests, so there is a potential to get banned

[barren urchin]

the bot docs are useless anyway

normal users have very different API in many regards

like 25% of the API the official client uses is undocumented / private

[lament mantle]

oh i thought it was mostly the same

[barren urchin]

there is https://docs.discord.sex which attempts to document all user apis :)

[opaque sentinel]

I mean, client mods break TOS as well, but the risk is smaller.

[barren urchin]

there is virtually 0 risk with vencord

[lament mantle]

based on the pictures they dont look bad but again, i dont think much people care enough

[opaque sentinel]

I'm kinda looking forward to the new TeamSpeak app. If they are smart, they can provide theming support, which is the only thing I need.

[lament mantle]

oh thanks for this i was actually kinda wanting something like this

i just assumed it didnt exist

[barren urchin]

u should contribute https://github.com/discord-userdoccers/discord-userdoccers

[lament mantle]

ill look into it

[barren urchin]

anyway I just pushed an update that should fix the lag

[lament mantle]

oh already?

should i just update vesktop

[deft frigate]

I have the same issue here. Enabling themes makes me lag like crazy. Disabling my theme 0 lag. I only have themes running and nothing else.

[barren urchin]

use a different theme

[lament mantle]

lmao i didnt even realise u where the developer

that fixed it thank u so much

that was quick

[deft frigate]

Before this update, my theme was lag free. The class updater must have done something to it.

[opaque sentinel]

I want to look into my own theme as well. It's been lagging forever, even before the update, and I want to look into ways to speed it up.

[barren urchin]

no

discord update

discord cooked a bit too hard

[deft frigate]

What did they do?

[lament mantle]

i assume they did what they do best and fucked there users

[barren urchin]

1. don't use :has()
2. don't use *, or generic html element selectors like div, img
3. keep your rules as short as possible. this is bad -> .foo .bar .baz .foobar .wtf .how .deep .is .this {}
4. don't use transition/animation on things that cause layout shift like width, height, x. only animate transform. e.g. to move an element, use the translate transform instead of width or height or position properties. The reason is that changing position or dimensions makes the browser recalculate layouts on your CPU. if you use transform it doesn't have to recalculate anything and can even GPU accelerate the animation
5. don't overuse transparency, blur, box-shadow, and anything similar to these
6. optimise your media. don't use a 20mb png as background
7. css goes from right to left. try to avoid patterns where the rightmost selector is generic and the leftmost selector is complex as this will essentially have exponential performance impact. for example, this is catastrophic: .thing:has(.thing) > *

[opaque sentinel]

... I wanted to keep it safe from class updates and broke the first three rules pretty much everywhere.

Thank you.

[lament mantle]

that should be noted in plugin docs if not already

seems useful

[normal apex]

should really post this and pin it in #🎨-theme-development too for future reference

[deft frigate]

Guess it's back to the drawing board

Thanks discord

gunr

[barren urchin]

idk man their shit is so cooked that just looking at it the wrong way causes lag

[lament mantle]

i feel like this update fixed some lag i have been having for years, like the settings animation would take like 5 seconds before 😭

[opaque sentinel]

css goes from right to left. try to avoid patterns where the rightmost selector is generic and the leftmost selector is complex as this will essentially have exponential performance impact. for example, this is catastrophic: .thing:has(.thing) > *

This goes beyond my natural instincts. Really weird.

[barren urchin]

vp BetterSettings

[flat fern]

BetterSettings

Enhances your settings-menu-opening experience

Authors

Kyuuhachi

[deft frigate]

The saying don't fix what ain't broke, they should have kept to it. Probably from all the crappy bloat they're adding. Those new nitro features 🤣 This is the result

[barren urchin]

no they changed their bundler config

it outputs different code now

[lament mantle]

oh ima install this

can there be a plugin that uploads files to a custom server instead of discord and sends it as a link instead, to get around the 10mb file limit. or is that just not gonna happen

[deft frigate]

Yes but why would they need to change it? Probably to support something in particular? Or just a fk u moment to everyone? I'm not really good with electron so I probably don't know what I'm saying

[barren urchin]

they made it minify more

so their code is smaller

[deft frigate]

ah

[opaque sentinel]

Which usually improves performance. But with Discord you can't be sure.

[barren urchin]

nah it doesn't

just improves loading time by a few nanoseconds (or by longer if you're on that juicy afghanistan internet)

[opaque sentinel]

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Internet here is bad. So it's noticeable here.

[barren urchin]

come on german internet is bad but not thaaat bad 😭

[opaque sentinel]

I'm in Franconian Switzerland, we don't know what internet is.

[barren urchin]

smh ur pronouns page says berlin

[deft frigate]

But if it minifies more, doesn't it only initially load it once? So why would everything get impacted? Unless in discord it reloads on each channel click or something?

[barren urchin]

yes it's only initial load

anyway it changed some other stuff who knows

[lament mantle]

.
can i make something that does this? how hard would this be to do if ive never tried to make a vencord plugin before

[opaque sentinel]

That's the timezone. There is only one German timezone. I was unable to enter anything else.

[barren urchin]

oh im dumb okay

well

normally people use their capital

[opaque sentinel]

Well, the issue is finding a server where the file would be sent to.

[barren urchin]

so you'd use Europe/Zurich

[lament mantle]

i would self host my own, the issue is it might look sus in the url

[barren urchin]

exists #1256395889354997771

[lament mantle]

no way

[opaque sentinel]

The Franconian Switzerland is in Germany, it's called that because there are hills. No, I'm not making this up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franconian_Switzerland

[barren urchin]

insane

[opaque sentinel]

No internet here.

[deft frigate]

Yea probably. I don't like to mention others but maybe it's helpful info for you.

Using BD, my theme has no lag. Same CSS. Only difference is I don't have plugins on there. Even with no plugins loaded on Vencord, doesn't seem to be any different.

Maybe this info is useful to you, not sure. You probably already know this, though.

[barren urchin]

that makes no sense

[deft frigate]

I'm only saying what I have witnessed lol. What does make sense in this world anymore

[opaque sentinel]

I've heard multiple people saying that. On the other hand, my theme doesn't work on BD. Only the color scheme gets applied.

[deft frigate]

oof.... I should maybe mention that I am using canary for that one. Maybe that makes a huge difference

[barren urchin]

compare on same branch

[deft frigate]

alright

[barren urchin]

and your vencord is outdated

you don't have the update that fixes vencord css having lag

[opaque sentinel]

You can see that? Cool.

[barren urchin]

if you share your info yes #🏥-vencord-support-🏥 message

otherwise no xD

[opaque sentinel]

That makes more sense. I guess it would be a bit creepy if you could see it just like that.

[deft frigate]

I just tried it on the stable branch and it seems to be lag free as well when typing. But... There's slight "lag" on clicking components such as settings, buttons, server channels and so on. But it's much more usable than vencord because of the fact it doesn't lag on keystrokes.

[opaque sentinel]

I mean, lagging on keystrokes has been part of my Vencord install for ages, even without my theme. I don't know if it's because of my PC, of my plugins or because I'm typing too fast.

[lament mantle]

i cant name a single electron app that doesnt have atleast a bit of lag

my spotify runs at like 2 fps while scrolling

[deft frigate]

Hard to say, I've honestly never noticed it lag until this update in particular. But the kind of lag I get is not micro lags, it's like big lags that has a 1-2sec delay. If it was a micro lag, would probably be less annoying

[barren urchin]

what does this even mean

vencord on stable is more usable than vencord?

[opaque sentinel]

There is a QR code drawn on a white board in university. Next to it it says "How to code fast Electron apps in 20 minutes". It's a rickroll.

[rigid orbit]

i don't think the update fixed the lag
i still lag when hovering over server list
vesktop stable

[lament mantle]

u go to a nice university

[deft frigate]

You said to test it on the same branch. I tested BD on stable, and vencord on stable. Both lag, but when it comes to typing BD does not lag (for me anyways) but still has the same problems with the lag when interacting with discord pretty much, outside of typing. Maybe I'll try re-install vencord to see if that may help....

[opaque sentinel]

I love my university. Every semester we have "Playtest & Pancakes" where gamedevs can present their prototypes and guests can play them and eat pancakes for free.

[barren urchin]

update your vencord...

[deft frigate]

It was updated to the latest

[barren urchin]

^

[deft frigate]

I just re-installed it and it does help a tiny amount but there's still like 800ms of lag on each keystroke 😢

[lament mantle]

ur vencords still lagging?

[opaque sentinel]

That much? For me it's probably closer to 250ms when I type very fast.

[lament mantle]

lmao nice, my college is boring as fuck

[deft frigate]

Only when typing. The other "lag" is just a delay when I click on servers and channels (which doesnt bother me). But when I have my theme on I lag on each keystroke. With the theme off, there's no lag. My theme may not be optimized, but the fact it doesnt happen on BD compared to vencord may indicate there is something to be tweaked that could probably help reduce it on vencord.

[lament mantle]

yeah for me it was mostly noticeable when typing but that new update just fixed it

well first i just disabled usrbg but after the update i re enabled it and it was fine

[opaque sentinel]

I feel like I shouldn't reenable it if I still get some tiny lag.

[deft frigate]

Mind sharing me your theme? So I can test it

[lament mantle]

what theme are u using?

i just had to remove this old icon quickcss import because it was extremely laggy

[opaque sentinel]

Themeless. I disabled it because I have up to 15s lag with it enabled.

[rigid orbit]

same here

[deft frigate]

Ugh it's a very old theme. It was called discord reborn by omniscent. I just maintained it because I made changes to it overtime and couldnt be bothered switching

EDIT: This is the successor of it https://betterdiscord.app/theme/NotAnotherAnimeTheme Idk if it's made by the same person, or they just re-made it and maintained their own version of it. Unfortunately, theirs is much more different to mine. But I might just use theirs and implement my changes if Vendicated can't fix it in the coming weeks

[deft frigate]

Oh yea themeless is lag free for me. No lag on typing with no theme enabled

I do type slow though

[opaque sentinel]

Which, by the way, happened to me even before the update, just less often.

[rigid orbit]

found part of the cause
broken quickcss theme

[lament mantle]

for me i just removed this old icon theme i had https://davart154.github.io/Themes/Icon%20Revert%202023/2023%20Icon%20Revert.css, idk if its related to new discord update or the fact it was updated 3 days ago

because that was around when it started lagging i think

[deft frigate]

I just turned urs on and there's slight lag as well

[opaque sentinel]

My speed is 90 characters per minute. I don't know if that's fast.

Can you test this?
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PinkSerenity/LilyPichu/refs/heads/main/lilypichu.theme.css

[lament mantle]

yeah, i just disabled it. i added that when discord changed there icons a bit ago but im used to the new icons now so ima just keep it disabled

[deft frigate]

Just did a 1 min test I get 80 WPM but I type much slower than that usually. But sure, I will test this theme

[lament mantle]

im getting lag

[sage lintel]

Still getting some pretty rough lag, though it's noticeably better. Discord only lags behind like a full second or two when typing now when it used to be freezing for 30s+ sometimes pre-patch. Same stuff as before, disabling the irc theme mostly fixes it.

[lament mantle]

wow only a full second!

[deft frigate]

Holy sht ur theme lags mmore than mine lmao holy molyyy. Its like 1-3 seconds of delay

@opaque sentinel

[lament mantle]

yeah just spamming my keyboard it lags a fuckton

slow typing its not noticeable tho, its like the lags based on ur wpm 😭

[sage lintel]

Actually it seems like the discord recolor theme I'm using completely nukes performance lmao, it's perfectly fine without it even with the irc theme, strange.

Okay it seems to be https://mwittrien.github.io/BetterDiscordAddons/Themes/_res/SettingsIcons.css this being imported at the start of one of my themes, removed it and everything is silky smooth again. Seems to be literally full of :has checks so that makes sense I guess lmao?

[deft frigate]

I regret restring my pc 😂

Every 2 weeks I restart it to ensure the OS is smooth. But boy did I restart it at the worst time. Lag isnt that bad with no theme enabled though

EDIT: Ur right, with no theme off even if u spam it lags. It just lags much less than with a theme on. I guess it depends on ur theme though. Probably deepends on how much css that theme has

[lament mantle]

rn i dont have a theme and im just using @import url(https://mwittrien.github.io/BetterDiscordAddons/Themes/EmojiReplace/base/Apple.css); for quickcss, no lag at all now

ive never really used a full theme because i didnt find any that i really liked but this would be pretty annoying to those who do

[normal apex]

devilbro jumpscare

[lament mantle]

devilbro?

oh

[opaque sentinel]

Heh. I knew it.

[regal crater]

Oh wow I just disabled online theme

and fuckin lag disappears

Seems for me the cause of lag is

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/DTACat/Discord-Profiles-Plus/main/Profiles-Plus.theme.css

[normal apex]

Jesus Christ, this thing just imports from imports

[regal crater]

yeaaa

I honestly idk why i had that

i forgor that i even had that in themes

☠️

[normal apex]

Anyways, yeah, I can see why this thing probably lags

It’s full of very bad CSS practices

[class^=root]

[barren urchin]

that's not bad practice lol

[normal apex]

I know that’s not but still

[barren urchin]

but this is

[normal apex]

That’s mainly what I was trying to point out

[barren urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/djkhaled-another-one-anotherone-gif-4905376

[normal apex]

Also class selectors are good and should be used over attribute selectors, but I’m pretty sure there is a thing that it can be slow if you have too many and this is definitely too many

[barren urchin]

don't spread misinformation

*= selectors are not considerably slower

[normal apex]

I’m not spreading misinformation. It’s just what I was taught. Is that when you have an excessive amount it can be slow.

[barren urchin]

well you were taught nonsense

[normal apex]

I genuinely didn’t know that

[short dust]

ok seems like it was my customcss

[dark chasm]

Enabled Plugins (42):

AnonymiseFileNames, BetterRoleContext, BetterSettings, CallTimer, ClearURLs, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CopyUserURLs, EmoteCloner, FakeNitro, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendsSince, GameActivityToggle, iLoveSpam, ImageZoom, MemberCount, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, NotificationVolume, PermissionsViewer, petpet, PictureInPicture, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, ReactErrorDecoder, RelationshipNotifier, ReverseImageSearch, RoleColorEverywhere, Summaries, SendTimestamps, ServerListIndicators, ShowAllMessageButtons, ShowHiddenThings, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, SpotifyShareCommands, Translate, TypingTweaks, UserMessagesPronouns, USRBG, ValidUser, WhoReacted, XSOverlay

[short dust]

still have some lag

Enabled Plugins (60):

AlwaysAnimate, BetterFolders, BetterGifAltText, BetterRoleContext, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, BiggerStreamPreview, ClearURLs, ColorSighted, ConsoleJanitor, ConsoleShortcuts, CrashHandler, CustomRPC, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FixCodeblockGap, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, FriendInvites, MessageLatency, MessageLogger, MoreCommands, NoOnboardingDelay, NoTypingAnimation, PauseInvitesForever, PermissionFreeWill, PermissionsViewer, petpet, PlatformIndicators, QuickMention, QuickReply, ReactErrorDecoder, RelationshipNotifier, Summaries, ServerInfo, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentMessageToggle, SilentTyping, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, SpotifyShareCommands, TextReplace, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, VencordToolbox, ViewIcons, VoiceDownload, XSOverlay, YoutubeAdblock

[lament mantle]

are u on the latest version of vencord? there was a update not long ago

[wraith cradle]

Vencord: v1.11.3 • 6cccb54 (Vesktop v1.5.4) - 1 Feb 2025
Client: stable ~ Vesktop v1.5.4
Platform: MacIntel

still some lag when i type, and it's still noticable for me on macos even though my wpm is atrocious as hell

everything else seems fine though

#1335030867759730790 message #1335030867759730790 message in case someoen needs my quickcss and online themes

[short dust]

nah, ill try updating

Vencord: v1.11.3 • 6cccb54 (Standalone) - 1 Feb 2025
Client: stable ~ Discord Desktop v1.0.9180
Platform: Win32
Last Crash Reason: N/A

alright.

it doesnt lag

[zealous pine]

Enabled Plugins (73):

AlwaysTrust, BetterNotesBox, BetterRoleContext, BetterSettings, BlurNSFW, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ColorSighted, ConsoleJanitor, ConsoleShortcuts, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CopyFileContents, CopyUserURLs, CrashHandler, Dearrow, Decor, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, FixCodeblockGap, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendsSince, GreetStickerPicker, HideMedia, iLoveSpam, ImageZoom, KeepCurrentChannel, LoadingQuotes, MentionAvatars, MessageClickActions, MessageLinkEmbeds, MoreCommands, MutualGroupDMs, NewGuildSettings, NoBlockedMessages, NoF1, NoOnboardingDelay, NoPendingCount, NoTypingAnimation, NoUnblockToJump, NormalizeMessageLinks, OnePingPerDM, OpenInApp, petpet, ReactErrorDecoder, RevealAllSpoilers, ReverseImageSearch, ReviewDB, SendTimestamps, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowAllMessageButtons, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentMessageToggle, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyShareCommands, TextReplace, ThemeAttributes, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, Unindent, UnsuppressEmbeds, ValidReply, ValidUser, VoiceChatDoubleClick, VencordToolbox, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, YoutubeAdblock

holy crap i didn't know i used this much

[opaque sentinel]

Update: With the newest update all lag has disappeared, even when typing fast.

[potent tusk]

Enabled Plugins (74):

AccountPanelServerProfile, AlwaysAnimate, AlwaysTrust, AnonymiseFileNames, BetterFolders, BetterGifAltText, BetterNotesBox, BetterRoleContext, BetterSessions, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, CallTimer, ClearURLs, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CopyUserURLs, CrashHandler, CustomRPC, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FixCodeblockGap, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, FriendsSince, FullSearchContext, FullUserInChatbox, GifPaste, iLoveSpam, ImageZoom, ImplicitRelationships, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NoBlockedMessages, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoOnboardingDelay, NormalizeMessageLinks, NotificationVolume, OpenInApp, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, PreviewMessage, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ReviewDB, SendTimestamps, ServerInfo, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowConnections, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentMessageToggle, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyCrack, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UnlockedAvatarZoom, UserMessagesPronouns, UserVoiceShow, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, WhoReacted, YoutubeAdblock

Enabled Plugins (74):

AccountPanelServerProfile, AlwaysAnimate, AlwaysTrust, AnonymiseFileNames, BetterFolders, BetterGifAltText, BetterNotesBox, BetterRoleContext, BetterSessions, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, CallTimer, ClearURLs, CopyEmojiMarkdown, CopyUserURLs, CrashHandler, CustomRPC, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FavoriteEmojiFirst, FixCodeblockGap, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, FriendsSince, FullSearchContext, FullUserInChatbox, GifPaste, iLoveSpam, ImageZoom, ImplicitRelationships, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NoBlockedMessages, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoOnboardingDelay, NormalizeMessageLinks, NotificationVolume, OpenInApp, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, PreviewMessage, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ReviewDB, SendTimestamps, ServerInfo, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowConnections, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentMessageToggle, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyCrack, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UnlockedAvatarZoom, UserMessagesPronouns, UserVoiceShow, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, WhoReacted, YoutubeAdblock

[short dust]

Enabled Plugins (107):

AccountPanelServerProfile, AlwaysAnimate, AlwaysExpandRoles, AlwaysTrust, BANger, BetterFolders, BetterGifAltText, BetterGifPicker, BetterNotesBox, BetterRoleContext, BetterSettings, BetterUploadButton, BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ClientTheme, ColorSighted, ConsoleJanitor, ConsoleShortcuts, CrashHandler, CustomIdle, CustomRPC, Decor, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FakeProfileThemes, FavoriteGifSearch, FixCodeblockGap, FixImagesQuality, FixSpotifyEmbeds, FixYoutubeEmbeds, FriendInvites, FriendsSince, FullUserInChatbox, GameActivityToggle, IgnoreActivities, ImageZoom, IrcColors, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MentionAvatars, MessageClickActions, MessageLatency, MessageLogger, MoreCommands, MutualGroupDMs, NewGuildSettings, NoBlockedMessages, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoF1, NoOnboardingDelay, NoPendingCount, NoSystemBadge, NoTypingAnimation, PartyMode, PauseInvitesForever, PermissionFreeWill, PermissionsViewer, petpet, PinDMs, PlatformIndicators, QuickMention, QuickReply, ReactErrorDecoder, ReadAllNotificationsButton, RelationshipNotifier, ReplaceGoogleSearch, ReplyTimestamp, ReverseImageSearch, ReviewDB, RoleColorEverywhere, SecretRingToneEnabler, Summaries, ServerInfo, ServerListIndicators, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowAllMessageButtons, ShowConnections, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowMeYourName, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentMessageToggle, SilentTyping, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, SpotifyShareCommands, StartupTimings, StickerPaste, SuperReactionTweaks, TextReplace, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, VencordToolbox, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, WhoReacted, XSOverlay, YoutubeAdblock

[barren urchin]

guys it's fixed

[latent remnant]

I was still having issues until I realized I had this in online themes:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tom22k/discord-css/main/Themes/HideNitroUpsellV2.css

Removing that fixed text speed. I forgot I even had it because I didn't think I was using online themes for anything. Anyways, thanks for everyone's hard work to keep vencord up and running o7

[regal crater]

Lemme guess this is the one that removes all of the nitro ads n shit

[latent remnant]

Indeed, though it's not too bad without it, I just went on a tear with CSS to get rid of all of discord's jangly keys and forgot that one existed

[waxen tide]

my discord seems OK with this one:

@import url('https://allpurposem.at/disblock/DisblockOrigin.theme.css');

[naive prism]

removing this also fixed all my lag

@import url("https://d3sox.me/complementary-discord-theme/hide-nitro-upselling.theme.css");```

Sadly v2 also lags, guess I'm stuck with the stupid gift button

[barren urchin]

button:is(
    [aria-label="Open sticker picker"],
    [aria-label="Open GIF picker"],
    [aria-label="Send a gift"]
) {
    display: none;
}

if u dont use discord in english, change the texts to the texts you have

[naive prism]

Ah thanks

[native belfry]

Enabled Plugins (50):

AnonymiseFileNames, BiggerStreamPreview, CallTimer, CrashHandler, DisableCallIdle, EmoteCloner, FakeNitro, FixImagesQuality, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, FriendsSince, iLoveSpam, ImageZoom, MessageClickActions, MessageLogger, MutualGroupDMs, NoUnblockToJump, NotificationVolume, OnePingPerDM, PermissionFreeWill, PermissionsViewer, petpet, PlatformIndicators, RelationshipNotifier, ReplyTimestamp, ReviewDB, ServerInfo, ShowHiddenChannels, ShowHiddenThings, ShowTimeoutDuration, SilentTyping, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyCrack, SpotifyShareCommands, SuperReactionTweaks, Translate, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, UnsuppressEmbeds, USRBG, ValidReply, ValidUser, VcNarrator, ViewIcons, VoiceDownload, VoiceMessages, VolumeBooster, WebContextMenus, WebKeybinds, WebScreenShareFixes

[waxen tide]

i sent one literally in the above message which works good but ok

https://codeberg.org/AllPurposeMat/Disblock-Origin/commit/d2c6bbb51b78765deb3961530d2829ae15e65f70\

[naive prism]

I didn't know what Disblock was

[naive prism]

Disblock appears to remove my timestamp button

no disblock

disblock

[normal apex]

why remove the sticker picker?

[naive prism]

Cause I don't use stickers and can access the menu via the emoji picker

[barren urchin]

ctrl s
ctrl g
ctrl e

emoji, sticker and gif picker buttons are useless

[calm lintel]

my discord's been getting super laggy

i've confirmed that it's because of themes, BUT

doesn't matter if it's a theme with only one little cosmetic change, or the discord adblock theme

just having themes on is causing huge lag while typing

didn't use to be the case, in fact it was smooth up until the latest discord update (and thus vencord)

[hot jungle]

hello, for some reason vesktop is 10x more lagging after the update for me (it was fine before the update), are there anyways I can fix that?