🪅-progaming

[royal nymph]

like if it's an email it's somewhat believable if you somehow miss all the parts telling you it's an issue

but the moment you realise it's an issue, you should immediately know that github would never tag you in a random issue on some random repo for an announcement

the main point of the scam is the email

[ornate quiver]

I suppose
but things like this are supposed to get you to act quickly and accidentally overlook stuff

que the huge npm maintainer awhile ago that fell for a npm 2fa phishing scam

[tired vigil]

How did they tag every single github user

[ornate quiver]

they didn't

they just tagged maybe like 10k

spread out over 500 issues

[frosty obsidian]

missed me

[deep mulch]

I left wing out on purpose

[spark tiger]

why didn’t why mention me…

i’m so sad

[dense sand]

Does anyone know if there are any limits on github student copilot requests?

[hoary sluice]

i got this too

got another one from y combinator today

https://github.com/ycombinatorrr/ycombinator-notification/issues/250

[spark tiger]

i think they want to sponsor you

[deep mulch]

yes

[dense sand]

But how much

I want to use claude with agent but idk how much i can use

[jade stone]

does anyone know what the point is of having jsx and jsxs be two different functions

[fleet cedar]

Probably 0.02% performance

[jade stone]

nop

[fleet cedar]

Probably legacy stuff then

[royal nymph]

there's a react blog about this

they're the same at runtime but in development they're different

they are used to warn you if there are missing keys

react has to differentiate between manually created arrays (doesn't need keys) and programmatically created arrays (.map(), etc)

that's what those functions are for

basically, whenever react creates an array (due to multiple children), it uses jsxs

<div>
    <p>1</p>
    <p>2</p>
</div>

becomes

jsxs("div", { children: [
    jsx("p", { children: 1 }),
   ...

because this array created by react doesn't need keys

[deep mulch]

react insane

[jade stone]

that doesn't make sense tho because in dev react uses jsxDEV for everything

in dev it uses a parmaeter to warn for keys (false/true)

[royal nymph]

https://github.com/reactjs/rfcs/blob/createlement-rfc/text/0000-create-element-changes.md#always-pass-children-as-props

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch if i asked you to simulate the orbit of a satellite 300km above earth in low orbit how would you do it

[valid jetty]

this is how i did it

[valid jetty]

well yes but its a little more than just that

[deep mulch]

oh my god hevc

[valid jetty]

if you wanna display it you need to also use simple harmonic motion stuff

this is what i did

is there a better way

[deep mulch]

what harmonic stuff

[valid jetty]

turning a centripetal velocity into an actual coordinate

well, the angle

which i then turn into a coordinate using trig

[deep mulch]

ive doen this before and never had to use whatever harmonic motion is

basic vector stuff

[valid jetty]

have you ever actually displayed the orbit

[tired vigil]

idk anything abt this physics stuff but couldn't omega simply be orbital_speed/orbit_radius if u simplify the expressions

[deep mulch]

predicting the path?

[valid jetty]

you dont need to predict anything, i meant just actually displaying where the satellite would be at some time t

[valid jetty]

uhhhh probably yes

[deep mulch]

yea

thats like

really easy

[valid jetty]

im too stupid rn to think whether it simplifies down

[deep mulch]

youre overcomplicating it

[valid jetty]

how do you turn a velocity into an angle if not by simple harmonic motion

[deep mulch]

are you rotating it??

[valid jetty]

??????????????/

[valid jetty]

look at the video

[deep mulch]

you make no sense

[valid jetty]

the satellite is rotating

[deep mulch]

why does angle matter in this

[valid jetty]

its orbiting

[deep mulch]

no

rotating != orbiting

[valid jetty]

well

its orbiting a 2d celestial object

[deep mulch]

ive done this without angle stuff so i have no idea what youre doing

[valid jetty]

how did you do it

[deep mulch]

its just basic apply force in the forward direction

iterate through all bodies, calculate force and apply

[valid jetty]

girl im rendering an ellipse at a position x and y

you dont have a notion of forces in this

unless i go and convert everything to use forces instead

[deep mulch]

youre overcomplicating it cause i have no idea what you mean

[valid jetty]

the ellipse on the screen is drawn at some position dependent on v and time

there is no concept of forces in this code

[deep mulch]

i dont think its accurately simulating then

[valid jetty]

it is because i calculate the orbital velocity and then use that to calculate the angle around the circle (the planet) that the satellite is at time T

[deep mulch]

nop

satellite is at a fixed height

satellites do not do that irl

[valid jetty]

it is at a fixed height, 300km above the planet at all times

[deep mulch]

its still not a correct simulation 😭

[crude star]

rosie insane

[deep mulch]

its the same as increasing an angle by 1 every 10 milliseconds

[valid jetty]

i had to make it 1000x speed, as if i didnt it would take 90 minutes to fully orbit the planet based on my values

based on these values

[deep mulch]

rosie so insane

[crude star]

"I came up with my own weird maths, here's why every physicist is wrong"

[valid jetty]

thats not

what

??????

this is not weird maths

[deep mulch]

rosie thinks satellites stay at the same altitude for eterntiy

[valid jetty]

zoot just doesnt know

[valid jetty]

this is a very simple model lol

youre assuming the satellite is in a stable orbit at a point of equilibrium

[deep mulch]

you could just simplify it to

val angleIncr = calculateForce()

while (true) {
    angle += angleIncr
}

thats what youre doing

[valid jetty]

i mean yeah

basically

[deep mulch]

its not true physics though

now add 3 more bodies

[valid jetty]

if it was true physics i would be accounting for quantum effects

[deep mulch]

no not even quantum

its just classical

[valid jetty]

also yeah obviously

[supple whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/714176329251291219.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=tif

[hexed surge]

Has anyone seen anything similar to having a double tag server?

[jade stone]

isn't the whole point of any to perform type checking at runtime, therefore it can't be free

[jade stone]

how is this invalid

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty

no angles

its beuatiful

[valid jetty]

none of these are in stable orbit lol

[spark tiger]

nginx is russian???? https://github.com/collections/made-in-russia

[valid jetty]

these are just massive objects in orbit, i needed to make a satellite in low stable orbit

[deep mulch]

was that a requirement

I used the equation properly

I could make it place with a calculated velocity that keeps in a mostly circular orbit

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_elements

https://physicsopenlab.org/2020/05/03/loop-antenna-for-very-low-frequency/ read

[limpid mica]

multiple two body simulations running simultaneously

n-body when

[valid jetty]

yes lol

[valid jetty]

that is.. exactly what i was doing

the velocity is 7700 m/s

[sweet pebble]

these are my plugin ideas

im gonna give it my best at some of them eventually

if anyone objects to even bothering at some pls lemme know

[royal nymph]

didn't know you're polish

[royal nymph]

LOVE

first good nino pin

[winged mantle]

yeah i just looked it up without thinking much

[hoary sluice]

https://cam-xxx.live/usr/libexec/pipewire/constant/usr/share/X11/app-defaults/stack/etc/cron.d/integer/etc/ppp/ip-down.d/row/etc/opt/firefox/policies/database/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/merge/lib/udev/rules.d/symmetric/usr/lib/systemd/system-generators/debugging/etc/mysql/mariadb.conf.d/rollback/etc/iproute2/ematch.d/protocol/usr/share/mime/packages/sdk/lib/modules/kernel/drivers/binary_tree/usr/libexec/gcc/stack/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/graph/backdoor_agent_tool.exe?auth=exploit&content=overwrite&cookie=forge&file=exploit&firewall=tamper&headerfield=overwrite&id=b91466fbe7e411cdaeab7dbf836e4e135c07e1720be84b6ef3b3b927&origin=bypass&parameter=spoof&password=crack&payload=(function(){+return+'a'.toUpperCase()%3B+})()%3B&port=redirect&portscan=spoof&query=exploit&querystring=inject&request=flood&response=leak&script=obfuscate&session=fixate&ssl=sniff&subdomain=takeover&token=exploit

[shrewd canopy]

whats that 💀

[lucid trail]

oh this is that phishy url generator i saw it on hn the other day

[deep mulch]

nop

[formal belfry]

It's worth clicking this link

Changed my life

[valid jetty]

??? for a satellite in stable orbit 300km above the surface of the earth, it is

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch read https://github.com/acquitelol/elle/blob/rewrite/examples/graphics/satellite.le

[deep mulch]

youre just rotating

[valid jetty]

.. is that not what the satellite is doing in a stable orbit

i'm not taking into account the orbit of the planet or anything

[deep mulch]

satellites are affected by all bodies

[valid jetty]

well yeah

[deep mulch]

they don't just concisoucly decide to rotate about a body

[valid jetty]

lol obviously

[deep mulch]

they have a forward motion and gravity pulls down on it

Rosie makes nooo sense

so insane

[valid jetty]

bluhhhh

[ionic lake]

Does elle have a package manager

[deep mulch]

yes

@valid jetty npm support

[lucid trail]

add reflection

[valid jetty]

no

git clone the library and include the entrypoint file

[deep mulch]

add reflection

[ionic lake]

That's good

just have something like shards from crystal

it just resolves and git clones repos into shards/

[royal nymph]

is flutter desktop good

[deep mulch]

no

[royal nymph]

why

[deep mulch]

horror dx

I think I tried it just once

I could literally never get the development environment working

[shrewd canopy]

It worked for me fine

[deep mulch]

plus dart is horrendous

[royal nymph]

it just works

but it feels like an android app lmao

also it feels laggy

this is release build

actually it doesnt look as bad in the video

[ionic lake]

Dart is good but flutter is yeah..

[spark tiger]

why is the second button inactive

whyre they forcing you to see w*ke shit

[royal nymph]

google has never heard of .config, .cache, etc (or better yet XDG base spec)

yeeeeeees just create 10 folders in ~

[spark tiger]

why do they all use different cases 😭

[ionic lake]

Because Google sucks

[spark tiger]

is it kebab case or camel case or snake case

[royal nymph]

the answer is no

it just feels laggy

i think it's capped to 60fps or smth

[ionic lake]

what are you compiling to? desktop app?

I would say use iced

not cross-platform but that's just a dream literally

[winged mantle]

60 fps is not laggy 😭

wouldn't gamers call that a "playable framerate"

[spark tiger]

❓

try switching to 60fps after you’ve used a 120+hz for years

[paper scroll]

using anything below 144 immediately turns me away from whatever it is, been using 240 for years

[supple whale]

wdym for UI it's horrific

[winged mantle]

how...

isn't 60 fps just less than ideal for competitive gaming

[paper scroll]

horrible for everything

[spark tiger]

this fuckass spotify app is like 60fps (or maybe even less) for unknown to me reason and its so fucking bad

[winged mantle]

quite often i've used software where it doesn't even manage to reach 60fps because it's poorly optimised

gamers are strange...

i thought laggy meant "powerpoint slideshow"

[crude star]

my phone screen is 120hz and 60fps looks laggy in it
I can use 60hz monitors just fine though

if your UI doesn't match ur display framerate something's really wrong

[winged mantle]

i swear jetbrains ides and discord often don't hit 60fps

and gnome used to not

it's a pretty common issue

are people not used to it

[ornate quiver]

competitive? maybe for just casual gaming 60fps is just barely acceptable

120 fps is where I'd consider it smooth

competitive you'd want 144fps as a minimum

[ornate quiver]

except for rhythm games, 60 fps is borderline unplayable

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty

i didnt think making a geneaology viewer would require an msc in data structures and algorithms and a phd in history with minor in biology

how do you represent the following record?: "Arjan, child of Jovo, had one son, by the name of Bernt, born summer 1654"

you dont know the gender of arjan

sure

set unknown gender

how do you link a parent with a child if you dont know the gender of the parent

vec of parents would solve this but that would be extremely weird and require effort for validating its not more than 2 parents and will probably cause a bug because of this in the future

or ```rust
pub struct Person {
pub mother: Option<PersonId>,
pub father: Option<PersonId>,
pub parent_unknown: Option<PersonId>,
// etc
}

[valid jetty]

distinct type Id = u64;

struct Person {
    Id id,
    (Id, Id) parents,
    Id[] children,
    u64 year_born
    string[] name
}

[hoary sluice]

is this elle

[valid jetty]

you don't need to include the children's' names in the person structure, i thought you learnt this in database normalization smh

[valid jetty]

yes

[hoary sluice]

i forgot tuples exist

[valid jetty]

genderless too

so works here

[hoary sluice]

if i dont include the childrens names in the person how do i navigate from parent to child without searching the entire tree

[valid jetty]

by their id??

[hoary sluice]

or i make it an enum of (Id, Id) and Single(Id)

[hoary sluice]

wdym

i know the parents id, i dont know their childs id

[valid jetty]

you do because it's in the array of children lol

Id[]

[hoary sluice]

what

you mean i shouldnt store the name of the child in the parent not store a reference in the parent

like

[valid jetty]

i'm not sure what you're asking

[hoary sluice]

right now its

[hoary sluice]

im not sure what this is about

pub struct Person {
pub id: PersonId,
pub gender: Gender,
pub name: Option<Name>,
pub mother: Option<PersonId>,
pub father: Option<PersonId>,
pub spouses: Vec<PersonId>,
pub children: Vec<PersonId>,
}

i dont have backticks on my keyboard forgive me

children are ids

[valid jetty]

no i mean, Person doesn't need to know the names of the children in that array just store their id and lookup like that

[valid jetty]

ok yeah good

[hoary sluice]

where did you assume that it did

[valid jetty]

idk lol i just assumed by how you worded the original question

[hoary sluice]

this would be some record you find in a church book where they forgot to include the gender

cause its the 17th century and they didnt care

point was that you dont know the gender of Arjan

because it says child of Jovo not daughter/son of Jovo

pub enum Parents {
    None,
    One(PersonId),
    Two(PersonId, PersonId),
}

@valid jetty

[valid jetty]

sure that works

[hoary sluice]

the gedcom format needs to be wiped off the face of the planet

and completely redesigned

it was designed in the 90s with floppy disks in mind

the gedcom 7 standard was made by mormons so theres a bunch of mormon specific fields in the spec now

[shrewd canopy]

Can say same about windows 🐟
It was made for floppies initially and has decades of backwards compat

[crude star]

const DATA: &str = "Arjan, child of Jovo, had one son, by the name of Bernt, born summer 1654";

[royal nymph]

i went with slint, it's fire

[shrewd canopy]

try Qt next :)

[hoary sluice]

dont compare it to windows

gedcom isnt even close to as bad as windows

[hoary sluice]

average js dev

[crude star]

this is like racism i literally wrote rust code but i get called out for being a js dev

[nimble bone]

rust is abandonware

[ionic lake]

Nice

[ionic lake]

Nice :D

[royal nymph]

terror

i tried qt first then I realised it meant I would have to use cmake to build the app

i looked up how to package qt on github actions and it was all horror

so I abandoned that idea

[crude star]

hop on mesonnn

it has qt support

[pseudo sierra]

meson my beloved

[royal nymph]

nope

slint is fire

[ionic lake]

Feed me that slint crack

[shrewd canopy]

you can use qmake too

[royal nymph]

LOL THEY IMPLEMENTED THE SWITCH FROM THE MEME https://github.com/slint-ui/slint/tree/master/examples/fancy-switches

[pseudo sierra]

insane

[deep mulch]

@royal nymph @royal nymph @royal nymph

hi

[royal nymph]

yeah yeah okay

[worldly sigil]

why have 1 browser when you can have 5 different ones

too bad its pretty much firefox or chromium though

[shrewd canopy]

real

[valid jetty]

why is your homework folder called secret

[shrewd canopy]

It's not homework

[deep mulch]

secret

[ornate quiver]

state secrets

[lucid trail]

cooking in my cs assignments

[gilded surge]

blaahhhhh. was debugging these extremely strange nixos-wsl problems, where my system would randomly shut down and switching configurations would give a broken pipe error for github. this is apparently because, recently, i switched the vm memory allocation to 4MB instead of 8MB, because i was having problems starting the vm when the system was using a lot of ram, but this was apparently causing the core nix process during boot to get earlyoomkilled, eventually taking down the system after around ~1 1/2 mins, and switching configurations was failing because running out of ram while retriving data from github causes a broken pipe error (with no cause indicator!!!)

[ornate quiver]

hop off nix

[strange matrix]

finished a csharp rewrite of my python script
surprisingly they both perform as quick

[ornate quiver]

language really doesnt matter for scripts

[ionic lake]

most creative ass desktop dude

[spark tiger]

why do u need both flameshot & sharex

[tired vigil]

He needs one to take a screenshot of the other duh

[shrewd canopy]

I used to use flameshot

Then switched to sharex

[spark tiger]

GOOD

someone should port sharex to macos and linux

macos screenshot tool is nice but i wish you could make it so it shows your cursor

[fleet cedar]

1/10 no perspective correction

[nimble bone]

if you have an issue with NixOs the issue is NixOs

[nimble bone]

iShare

https://isharemac.app

[spark tiger]

https://cleanshot.com/

[nimble bone]

i'm not paying to take a screenshot

[deep mulch]

faint would

[royal nymph]

https://getfedora.org

[royal nymph]

there's a good chance most of the time spent is spent on I/O (networking, disk read/write, etc)

this is gonna be about the same speed in any language

faster languages will mainly speed up cpu things like computations, long loops, etc

[shrewd canopy]

nixos in WSL is something new

[gilded surge]

this is mainly a wsl problem, in that it uses earlyoomkiller by default and is also stupid

[royal nymph]

nop it's always a nix problem

[spark tiger]

https://github.blog/changelog/2025-09-25-pull-request-files-changed-public-preview-now-supports-commenting-on-unchanged-lines/

[jade stone]

?remind tsserver auto-import bug import type when both are used

[delicate grove]

Invalid time provided, try e.g. "tomorrow" or "3 days".

[jade stone]

?remind 1.5d tsserver auto-import bug import type when both are used

[delicate grove]

Alright @jade stone, in 1 day: tsserver auto-import bug import type when both are used

[hoary sluice]

i thought sharex was windows only

[shrewd canopy]

It is Windows only 🐟

I'm on Win

[jade stone]

i swear to god why is react docs SEO shit

the old site is almost always before the new one when searching

[placid cape]

lmao

[gilded surge]

at least there isn't like the billion "sponsored results" before that that aren't even related to what you searched

[sage smelt]

was i supposed to add every single message type to the enum

[shrewd canopy]

This isn't full list of message types

[tired vigil]

Some message types are deprecated or no longer in use I believe

Idk what happens to old messages with those types

[sage smelt]

its all the types in https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/message#message-object-message-types

just added types from https://docs.discord.food/resources/message#message-type too

[shrewd canopy]

Nothing

They still exist regardless, similarly to how application_news embeds still exist

[frosty obsidian]

yeah they just stop getting rendered

[jade stone]

Adblocker

[frosty obsidian]

block the overview when

[gilded surge]

yeah i do

[jade stone]

Go to #📩-modmail and ask for programming role to use #👾-core-development and #🧩-plugin-development

[gilded surge]

it's just like why is that even a thing

money probably

[sage smelt]

hmm ok

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian doesn't use an ad blocker on YouTube

wing thinks he's supporting creators

[frosty obsidian]

literally the first thing i installed @deep mulch

[deep mulch]

nop

you actually installed chrome first @frosty obsidian

[gilded surge]

lie

no installing adblockers allowed

[frosty obsidian]

nop

[sage smelt]

don't know how to explain why i want access

[fleet cedar]

Not installing an adblocker is criminal

[frosty obsidian]

i set up the adblocker in firefox first

[deep mulch]

wing has YouTube premium

[frosty obsidian]

nop

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian I remove all the laces from your shoes

[frosty obsidian]

do you want to create a plugin or contribute to core or something

[jade stone]

They have an open pr

[deep mulch]

SATAN

@jade stone

[jade stone]

#👾-core-development message

[jade stone]

Hi

[deep mulch]

@jade stone is satan

[frosty obsidian]

i don't read dev chats

[jade stone]

Nop

[deep mulch]

wing hates dev chats

[frosty obsidian]

v+ programming @sage smelt

[deep mulch]

@frosty obsidian Soon I'll begin working on Glüm

my Material 3 GitHub app

love?

[frosty obsidian]

trademark infringement

suing

[deep mulch]

never

[sage smelt]

thanks

[shrewd canopy]

I usually don't install adblocker 🐟

[gilded surge]

hi everyone can we beat this guy with hammers

[sage smelt]

dns adblocking?

or
you watch ads?

[shrewd canopy]

I can tolerate ads lol

[sage smelt]

insane

[fleet cedar]

I have not yet snapped and vandalized a bus stop ad, but it's been close I tell you

[gilded surge]

do it

pop off

[jade stone]

[deep mulch]

hello Satan

[tired vigil]

Did they accidentally remove the entire project

no more react

[strange matrix]

Yeah, i guess i won't see a different in languages for scraping a website to get music...

[supple whale]

mental insanity

i dont remember the last time i saw an ad

oh when i went to the cinema i showed up 10 mins too early and had to sit tru 10 mins of ads

[spark tiger]

https://www.better-auth.com/blog/authjs-joins-better-auth

[valid jetty]

https://fixupx.com/ImSh4yy/status/1971648873061142811

Shayan (@ImSh4yy)

PRO TIP: Store all passwords in one table and use foreign keys to reference them. Most users reuse passwords anyway. We went from 100GB to 3GB.

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FixupX · Sep 26, 2025, 6:51 PM

[deep mulch]

good

[nimble bone]

just write your own with

auth*

it’s easy

[granite geyser]

Please don't do this if you're not like a super nerd with coding

Auth is the most critical part of your service

Leave it up to the professionals and use something like firebase, supabase, or okta auth

[jade stone]

Koda so dumb can't even roll her own auth

[granite geyser]

i can, but why would i do that when there's already professional tested ones

[frosty obsidian]

i mean the principles are pretty easy to grasp

hash and salt

[deep mulch]

do it @frosty obsidian

[nimble bone]

koda you’re stupid

[granite geyser]

Nop

[nimble bone]

just use good hash library

[tulip warren]

they're the most targeted

[tulip warren]

also ^

[nimble bone]

exactly. that’s the part where i shouldn’t rely on a third party service

[granite geyser]

You guys dont get my point

If you're not a super nerd then you shouldnt do it yourself, like if you're newish to coding you shouldn't do your own auth

[nimble bone]

the only reason to use a third party auth library is convenience

you most likely can’t be assed to implement oauth for 400 services

[nimble bone]

if you can get the concepts yk you can

auth is basically this

export function generateID() {
    return `${Date.now()}${Math.floor(1000 + Math.random() * 9000)}`;
}

export async function generateToken(id: number, single: boolean = false) {
    const expiresIn = 86400;
    const clearToken = randomBytes(40).toString("base64").replace(/[+/=]/g, "");
    const salt = await bcrypt.genSalt(10);
    const tid = generateID();
    const token = await bcrypt.hash(clearToken, salt);
    await db
        .insertInto("tokens")
        .values({
            id,
            token,
            expiresIn,
            tid,
            single
        })
        .execute();

    return `${id}...${tid}...${clearToken}`;
}

export async function validateToken(rawToken: string): Promise<AuthValidation> {
    try {
        const firstSep = rawToken.indexOf("...");
        const secondSep = rawToken.indexOf("...", firstSep + 3);

        let userId = rawToken.substring(0, firstSep);
        let tid = rawToken.substring(firstSep + 3, secondSep);
        let token = rawToken.substring(secondSep + 3);

        userId = userId || "-1";
        tid = tid || "-1";
        token = token || "";

        const tokenQuery = await psqlClient.query(
            "SELECT id, token, expires_in, single FROM tokens WHERE id=$1 AND tid=$2",
            [userId, tid]
        );

        const validation = await bcrypt.compare(token, tokenQuery.rows[0].token);
        if (!validation)
            return {
                result: AuthResult.Invalid
            };

        const userQuery = await psqlClient.query("SELECT * FROM users WHERE id=$1;", [
            tokenQuery.rows[0].id
        ]);

        let result: AuthResult = AuthResult.Valid;
        if (userQuery.rows[0].should_reset_password) result = AuthResult.MustChangePassword;
        if (userQuery.rows[0].locked) result = AuthResult.Locked;
        if (userQuery.rows[0].archived) result = AuthResult.Archived;
        if (tokenQuery.rows[0].single) result = AuthResult.SingleUse;
        return {
            result,
            user: {
                id: userQuery.rows[0].id,
                name: userQuery.rows[0].name,
                email: userQuery.rows[0].email,
                permissions: userQuery.rows[0].permissions,
                theme: userQuery.rows[0].theme,
                color: userQuery.rows[0].color,
                hasSeenNew: userQuery.rows[0].hasseennew
            }
        };
    } catch {
        return {
            result: AuthResult.Invalid
        };
    }
}

[granite geyser]

Don't forget that you have to comply with GDPR and othe privacy laws on how to handle data

Scalability is a big concern and also you can accidentally add vulnerabilities without knowing. No new programmer should do auth themselves

[nimble bone]

i vibe coded my privacy policy and i’m compliant

[granite geyser]

"vibe coded" "privacy policy" dude you can't code a privacy policy 😭

[nimble bone]

i wrote one gave it to gemini and said “is it compliant with loi 25” (quebec privacy law) it said no

[granite geyser]

Yeah I would never trust you with my data

[nimble bone]

and it fixed it

[royal nymph]

https://x.com/jarredsumner/status/1971876181659341180

Jarred Sumner (@jarredsumner)

`bun install` can migrate pnpm-lock.yaml -> bun.lock 4x faster than pnpm prints its version number

X · Sep 27, 2025, 9:54 AM

[spark tiger]

@granite geyser I AGREE WITH YOU don’t listen to nin0.0

[shrewd canopy]

That suspiciously looks like css

Mixed with js

[nimble bone]

ulgyyyy

write in Qt @royal nymph

[frosty obsidian]

vee will love qml

[shrewd canopy]

I use qt widgets and theyre very good 🐟

[royal nymph]

I experimented with QT first but god I dont want ANYTHING to do with C(++) ecosystem

rust >>>>

[delicate grove]

@jade stone, <t:1758899288:R>: tsserver auto-import bug import type when both are used

[gilded surge]

https://gurted.com/ lua

[jade stone]

Vee insane

[gilded surge]

no

[shrewd canopy]

Better than js

[gilded surge]

true

[pseudo sierra]

lua my beloved

[gilded surge]

lua is good sometimes

except when you want to do non-floating point or have sized types

[fleet cedar]

Or want sensible arrays or a stdlib worth shit

[gilded surge]

1-indexed arrays...

[deft karma]

@royal nymph

@royal nymph
Hello friend, a friend sent me and I would like to buy the discreet signs, please.

[ionic lake]

No

[ionic lake]

ragebait

[gilded surge]

the discreet signs

[deep mulch]

@royal nymph
Hello friend, a friend sent me and I would like to buy the discreet signs, please.

[valid jetty]

@royal nymph
Hello friend, a friend sent me and I would like to buy the discreet signs, please.

[ornate quiver]

no not really
correctness is important too

[spark tiger]

least insane #🪅-progaming message

[ornate quiver]

@deep mulch Hello friend, a friend sent me and I would like to buy the discreet signs, please.

[pseudo sierra]

ninauth will have 2 gabazillion security problems

[spark tiger]

grok will accidentally leave a backdoor in ninauth and there will be a massive data breach first day

[frosty obsidian]

@royal nymph
Hello friend, a friend sent me and I would like to buy the discreet signs, please.

[deep mulch]

@ornate quiver
Hello friend, a friend sent me and I would like to buy the discreet signs, please.

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch how do you prove this without induction

[deep mulch]

I don't even know what induction is

Rosie so insane

[valid jetty]

ok then

how do you prove this

[deep mulch]

I don't know

I hated proofs

I actually wanted to die doing them

and I don't even remember how to now

[valid jetty]

how do you do this

you cannot prove this by exhaustion

i did it like this

[gilded surge]

very easy

[valid jetty]

it is

but i wanna see if zoot can do it

[gilded surge]

double angle identities...

prove that cos2theta = 1-2sin^2theta

[valid jetty]

this thing has all the things i hate in one place

we weren't even tougnt this

[gilded surge]

same

[valid jetty]

we get given most of them in the formula booklet

[deep mulch]

nerd @valid jetty

[valid jetty]

though frustratingly that doesn't include cos2x = cos^2x - sin^2x so i always forget which sign it is

[gilded surge]

we had a formula sheet but they said "nah you can't use it during the test"

[deep mulch]

@valid jetty I curse you with whatever I have that makes me forget everything once I stop using

I am so jealous of you

[valid jetty]

then i have to remember sin^2x + cos^2x = 1 so if it was + and not -, cos2x = 1 for all x which is wrong

[gilded surge]

funny story, my math teacher got mad at me for saying that cos theta = cos^2theta/2 - sin^2theta/2

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty is rust backend and react frontend a good idea

i tried dioxus but i dont like it

[gilded surge]

he was like "nooo you have to replace theta with 2u and say that u = theta/2 before doing that!!!!"

[valid jetty]

@deep mulch

[gilded surge]

same

[valid jetty]

palm am i older than you

im 17

[deep mulch]

I don't remember how

[deep mulch]

you are 12

[valid jetty]

well you probably turn 18 before me

i turn 18 in june next year

wiat WHAT

so i am older than you

by 14 days

by a fortnite

[gilded surge]

wait rosie you're in calculus?

[valid jetty]

i live in the uk

i dont pick particular courses

[gilded surge]

oh yh

[valid jetty]

mathematics just includes all of it

though i am quite ahead

[gilded surge]

yeah learning trig at the same time as some of this is kinda funny to me

[valid jetty]

currently were doing integration 2

which is stuff like usub, ibp

which is funny because i was doing this on my own 2 years ago

[gilded surge]

i would learn more math but i honestly don't want to

[valid jetty]

girl thats when it gets fun

[gilded surge]

power functions and exponential functions are the same thing (trust)

[valid jetty]

me too

i was doing line integrals at some point

tho i dont really have time for that stuff anymore

personal websites are like a bit of a waste of time for me.. like github is finee

yeah i know lol thats what i mean

portfolio can be shown just fine on your github pins

@deep mulch

[gilded surge]

ok if zoot cannot do this i will be very disappointed

[deep mulch]

I don't understand

[valid jetty]

stars, followers, pinned repos, very short overview in your about me

your about me can be creative

and the find out more

idk to me unless the job youre going for is a designer, a personal website doesnt matter that much

[valid jetty]

i guess you are very dissapointed

[gilded surge]

e is everywhere

[valid jetty]

i think the most insane time when i saw e was in hyperbolic trig

coshx to be specific

coshx = (e^x + e^-x) / 2

and the shape of this curve is the exact shape that chains and bridges naturally fall to

its kinda crazy

[frosty obsidian]

math gets crazy

[deep mulch]

Im actually convinced Rosie is an ai

[valid jetty]

if you let a chain naturally hang from 2 points, it will make a curve in this exact shape

i was genuinely like ???

it looks like x^2 but its not

[deep mulch]

you're insane

[frosty obsidian]

yeah i know it's not

[deep mulch]

Rosie talking to themself

[frosty obsidian]

im not that dumb

[deep mulch]

is that a parabolic curve

[valid jetty]

blue is x^2, red is coshx

[deep mulch]

rosies geniusness is unmeasurable

smartest person to ever live

[valid jetty]

??????

[gilded surge]

hyperbolic functions...

[valid jetty]

this is not even that difficult you just didnt pay attention in class or something

[frosty obsidian]

yeah thats correct

i didn't

math boring

[valid jetty]

math so good

[gilded surge]

explod

[valid jetty]

tho i will do cs at uni

[frosty obsidian]

they should make math fun

[valid jetty]

because i can skip most of my lectures

[gilded surge]

math class boring

math fun

[valid jetty]

and get drunk

[valid jetty]

true!!

[gilded surge]

math class is not real math

[valid jetty]

as soon as calculus began being tought i instantly understood why everyone fucking hates calculus

when i learnt calculus on my own it was so fun

the way they teach it in class sucks

[deep mulch]

I literally cannot remember

Rosie be like "it's easy" and then sends hard math

[gilded surge]

then look it up on the internet???

you have this cool thing called "huge database of online resources" available to you

[deep mulch]

that's not really the point

yea I can look it up and after 2 hours of reading it I might finally begin to understand

and then promptly forget the next day

[lucid trail]

my calc course started with limits of sequences and then introduced limits of functions with sequential characterization

it was really interesting

[valid jetty]

thats like how they usually do it yeah

though in our case they skipped limits and went straight to the power rule and then i dont think they ever came back to limits properly

[lucid trail]

yeah and it doesn't suck

[valid jetty]

lmao

[valid jetty]

it sucks when they bring minimization into it

because its hard to explain

[lucid trail]

haha

[ornate quiver]

we never learned hyperbolic functions

[deep mulch]

I barely passed my calc course

go home and I instantly forgot what was discussed in class

in class I could do it

[valid jetty]

i do further maths

but i mean coshx is not exactly a difficult concept to grasp the basics of, even just googling its definition

[deep mulch]

I took honors math all in high school and it's not to the level you're doing

not even my college classes

[valid jetty]

yeah because further maths is uni year 1 maths

</333

[deep mulch]

yeah I have no idea what that is

I did matrices in 12th grade and that was it

Rosie solves unsovled centuries old math problems for fun

@valid jetty

@valid jetty teach me about endfed half wave antennas and off center fed dipoles

need to improve my antenna setup

[valid jetty]

idk anything about antennas

the most i know is that one antenna question from aoc2024

[deep mulch]

I just had an idea @valid jetty

since you send me nonsense math questions I will send you radio questions

[jade stone]

Pretty sure the second one is a

[deep mulch]

yes

a lot of these are rules and regulations

and the other half is technical questions

I only have my technician license but I'll resume studying for my general

[jade stone]

@deep mulch https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DMh6eFFN7K4

[deep mulch]

love

NNVM

HORRIBLE

AAAA I HATE THE SKIN PEELING

[nimble bone]

v+ rot

@deep mulch

[jade stone]

EVIL

REMOVE

[nimble bone]

?remind 9pm unrot Satan

[delicate grove]

Alright @nimble bone, in 3 hours, 10 minutes and 30 seconds: unrot Satan

[deep mulch]

@nin0.dev

@jade stone satan

[jade stone]

Hai

@deep mulch make omarchy but with minky and call it ominky

[pseudo sierra]

@deep mulch make wezterm but with minky and call it minkterm

[deep mulch]

guh

[gilded surge]

i forgot how big is the general question pool

[jade stone]

@deep mulch make minky but with minky and call it minky

[gilded surge]

the technician is like 400 iirc

[deep mulch]

maybe

[ornate quiver]

i hate you

[deep mulch]

he is Satan after all

[ornate quiver]

https://youtu.be/5D3nUU1OVx8

@deep mulch

I think I understand why people use nix now

too much work for me though

[balmy lintel]

i'm so glad i didnt choose to go to college

[valid jetty]

this is like

uni maths

you wouldn't do things like this in college

[limpid mica]

uni useful to go to once

twice only if you do it in a completely different field

three times is too much

[deep mulch]

(its not in my experience)

rosie crazy

maybe for people majoring in math

[nimble bone]

@valid jetty @deep mulch

Rhododendrawk Tuah

[deep mulch]

@nimble bone@nimble bone@nimble bone@nimble bone

HAHA TUAH

[nimble bone]

Rosie.Tuah

@jade stone 👺 👺 👺 👺 👺 👺

[deep mulch]

SATAN

@nimble bone real name ninawk tuah

[nimble bone]

JUST COME OUTSIDE

FOR THER NIGHT

TAKE YOUR TIME

[royal nymph]

zt doesnt know how to math

[deep mulch]

@royal nymph hi

[pseudo sierra]

@deep mulch what's 1+1

[deep mulch]

3

[pseudo sierra]

zooter so smart

[valid jetty]

you do engineering

isnt it a running joke that engineering math is not real math

[deep mulch]

computer science

youre in high school doing harder math than ive ever done 😭

[pseudo sierra]

zoot thinks e = pi = 3

[deep mulch]

yes

[crimson sparrow]

for all intents and purposes this is true 👀

also = sqrt(g)

[supple whale]

https://messenger.abeto.co/

crazy shit

[placid cape]

thats cool

[supple whale]

cool doesnt cut it

they fucking fixed webgl's anti-aliasing

and this is even multiplayer

[hoary sluice]

this is why a do backend

too many sweats in frontend

[supple whale]

i mean this is just pure three.js

there's a single div and a single canvas

so there's not much web dev specifics here

no framework no nothing

just a bundle to a single file output

[jade stone]

tbh that first sentence sums one of the two main reasons why i love nix. It easily allows me to pin older versions of packages, without worrying about .so version mismatches

[supple whale]

wait nvm

its svelte

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1364285983461478531.webp?size=48&name=absolutecinema

[ornate quiver]

yeah but like those are so rare anyways

like even on arch ive never had a .so conflict

[nimble bone]

if your issue is on NixOs your issue is NixOs

[deep mulch]

yop

[ornate quiver]

nino uses nix

[deep mulch]

nino uses nixos mobile

[jolly lotus]

woah this is pretty cool

[jolly lotus]

you should also experiment with stuff, to do front-end you don't have to be a designer nessesarily :3

it's kind of like saying you prefer to make canvases because drawing is too hard

😭

fair enough

well said

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty

[shrewd canopy]

BrowserOS 🗣

[valid jetty]

80 staaa

[ionic lake]

elle is very cute and well made :)

deserved the stars

[nimble bone]

@valid jetty Rewrite Elle in Elle

[royal nymph]

30$-60$ is crazy

[winged mantle]

starstruck

[placid cape]

real

[hearty lintel]

how much should it be

[fleet cedar]

Probably an order of magnitude or two

[hearty lintel]

how much is an order of magnitude

10x?

wait yea i think

[hoary sluice]

i would do it for 1000

[hearty lintel]

how long would it take u

[hoary sluice]

i didnt even understand the task

[lucid trail]

BrowserOS another chrome fork with AI chat sidebar 🥀

[dense sand]

anyone knows if theres any way to show acpi calls when they occur on windows? like acpi_listen on linux

[ivory heath]

this is so useful to me

[jade stone]

hop on ssh keys

[ivory heath]

This is like the 3rd time I had to nuke this install because of ROCm issues on Ubuntu

[jade stone]

husk

[ivory heath]

If hetzners arch install script worked none of this would be a issue but oh well

[ornate quiver]

https://emschwartz.me/subtleties-of-sqlite-indexes/

@deep mulch @neon bear

[neon bear]

huh

[neon bear]

im not a db admin

[ornate quiver]

neither am I

i figured you'd find it interesting too

[neon bear]

maybe

[deep mulch]

oo

[ornate quiver]

@deep mulch

[deep mulch]

scary

[jade stone]

thanks node, i love knowing what the error is

[supple whale]

invalid syntax during eval

u could try doing process.on('error', console.trace)

but that rarely helps

[jade stone]

i have an idea what it is and i'm pretty sure it isn't that

[supple whale]

sometimes but rarely

[jade stone]

i think it's close tho

[supple whale]

anyways its something that runs during initial eval

rather then asyncronously

[jade stone]

GUHHHHH

the error happens with no extra args

still happens with --inspect

but doesn't happen with --inspect-brk, even after i resume

[jade stone]

i don't actually have enough time to attach

doesn't happen with inspect-wait either

[ionic lake]

try --check

[jade stone]

creating the worker from the repl gave this error isntead

[jade stone]

this is an issue with some transitive import

[ionic lake]

k

[jade stone]

I FOUND THE ISSUE

GUHHH NODE ERRORS SO BAD

they managed to have good errors for enums, but they didn't bother for decorators

so i assumed they would also have the errors for decorators

[ionic lake]

errrr decorators support bad

[jade stone]

husk

decorators so good

[ionic lake]

true

[jade stone]

tc39 decorators will reach stage 4 in 500000 years

[ionic lake]

anything will take 500000 yearws

nothing new

[jade stone]

also pipe operator

[ionic lake]

look at how long pipes have taken

yes

LOL

[jade stone]

guh is rollup stupid

[jade stone]

guhhh i love when no bundler has what i want so i'm stuck with tsc

[winged mantle]

true... https://blog.reverberate.org/2025/01/27/an-ode-to-header-files.html

in practice c/c++ header files are imperfect but i've been opening them in a split view recently

pretty handy especially without lsp

[jade stone]

tbh i feel like typescript's .d.ts should be in the honorable mentions

[deep mulch]

the kode Tode

[winged mantle]

header files are kind of better in c

because you rarely end up with private stuff in them

neovim so good...

have been using it without lsp but i still feel like a superhero

[ornate quiver]

@valid jetty loooook https://github.com/hxpe-dev/kotofetch

this looks really cool

im gonna try it out

[deep mulch]

wrong

rushii turning into rosie

[tired vigil]

does that pun (in the thumbnail) actually make sense in japanese 😭

[ornate quiver]

i don't think so
the pun seems to be lost

im curious whether it was originally an english or jp quote

[tired vigil]

this is so lazy smh

[frosty obsidian]

well
https://github.com/hxpe-dev/kotofetch/blob/main/quotes%2Fproverb.toml#L91-L95

[pearl stag]

quotes/proverb.toml: Lines 91-95

[[quote]]
japanese = "昨日は歴史、明日は未知、しかし今日は贈り物。だから「プレゼント」と呼ばれるのです。"
translation = "Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, but Today is a gift. That is why it is called the present."
romaji = "Kinō wa rekishi, ashita wa michi, shikashi kyō wa okurimono. Dakara 'purezento' to yobareru no desu."
source = "Master Oogway"

[frosty obsidian]

from an american movie, so no

[tired vigil]

😭

setting this as my terminal welcome message
Murder is actually really frowned in Japan. It goes against the traditional concept of 生きる, which means "to live"

[ornate quiver]

oh damn

[valid jetty]

setting it to 女の子とキスするのが大好き

[verbal phoenix]

@opal vessel

How i'm firee month so ?

[opal vessel]

???? why ping me here

oh you need image perms

just donate $5 one time

[verbal phoenix]

not locked screen shot perms image

[verbal phoenix]

wym 5 ?

[opal vessel]

[verbal phoenix]

Look

?

l'm free?

not?

[opal vessel]

??????

[verbal phoenix]

payment month 5 donate buying why do playing card

snp?

[opal vessel]

please use a translator because i do not understand what youre saying

[verbal phoenix]

what happened

[verbal phoenix]

card don't payment

[opal vessel]

nothing i can do about that

[verbal phoenix]

address..

[opal vessel]

you have to figure this out on your own

[verbal phoenix]

dont know di got mistakes zip codes.

[verbal phoenix]

nuh

[opal vessel]

i literally cannot help you with this

im not you

[opal vessel]

i dont know your address

[verbal phoenix]

yea

[verbal phoenix]

part 2 address. and email forget

[opal vessel]

your street address

not your email address

[verbal phoenix]

ohh

jk address.

[opal vessel]

can you even read

[verbal phoenix]

who?

state/province

Prostal/Zip code (9-dight zip code for US)

[opal vessel]

again i cannot help you with this so stop asking

[verbal phoenix]

IK

name?

do donate

did on working floor play door you find sorry beca with add. badge.

[opal vessel]

please learn basic english then come back

[crisp swan]

good eng fr

[winged mantle]

i tried using hjkl to move in my browser

turns out it actually works

with the site i was on

[gilded surge]

since when was there tiling WMs in win10??? https://lgug2z.github.io/komorebi/

[shrewd canopy]

since forever vro

[gilded surge]

apparently

not like im gonna use it since im hopping of windows but still

this would've been nice to know about like a year ago

[jade stone]

iirc google drive had that until like last year or smth

[fleet cedar]

Tiling wm is pretty useless imo, I almost never have anything non-maximized

[ornate quiver]

i tried out a tiling wm on a laptop because i dont want to use the touchpad to manage windows

and tbh it's been pretty nice

although im thinking of switchign from hyprland to niri

[shrewd canopy]

real

i have ton of windows open and only single window is open (or few)

[jade stone]

Yeah pretty much the same

[lucid trail]

yeah i just stopped using one recently

[winged mantle]

they used bun for moon landing? https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11/blob/master/bun.lockb

[jagged spade]

im pretty sure thats just for "running" (simulating) it LMFAO

computers' processing back then is waaaaaaay different from nowadays

[night sphinx]

apollo mission was filmed using bun

[jagged spade]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[deep mulch]

truth nuke

[ornate quiver]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/blog/2025/09/30/detailed-data-sharing-for-better-ai/

new data sharing is opt out by default

make sure to opt out

@deep mulch @frosty obsidian

[deep mulch]

gh

[shrewd canopy]

For individuals on non-commercial licenses: Data sharing is enabled by default, but you can turn it off anytime in the settings.
For individuals using commercial licenses, free trials, free community licenses, or EAP builds: Nothing changes. You can still opt in via the settings if you are willing to share data with JetBrains (and your admins, if any, allow it).

[ornate quiver]

oh guh

that's so confusing

[rough forum]

yall got a snippet for the 5000 orb perplexity quest yet?

[opal vessel]

just use the already existing script

[nimble bone]

use aamia’s quest script

[unkempt ember]

I think I overthinked this one-

[valid jetty]

what is that

[unkempt ember]

The language ? It's Julia.

And if you meant what I did ? To test some stuff with the language, I coded two basic functions and I somehow remembered that a subtraction is the same thing as adding a negative number. So what did I do ? Calling add getting the opposite of the second parameter making it a subtract function.

But I could have done a - b. It would have saved a jump and a call instruction.

[jade stone]

eslint my beloved

[deep mulch]

fix

[ionic lake]

Use oxlint

[jade stone]

insane

half of why i use eslint is for https://eslint.style

[ionic lake]

use dprint

[jade stone]

docs suck + doesn't have what i want

[ionic lake]

All good then

use eslint

[jade stone]

yop

also i haven't made any yet but eslint would be 10x eaiser to extend with project specific rules

typescript syntax highlighting so good

[valid jetty]

what the hell is that code formatting

[deep mulch]

sadan shenanigans

[jade stone]

found it ehre

https://github.com/bash-lsp/bash-language-server/blob/main/server/src/server.ts#L77-L81

[pearl stag]

server.ts: Lines 77-81

public static async initialize(
  connection: LSP.Connection,
  { rootPath, rootUri, capabilities }: LSP.InitializeParams,
): // TODO: use workspaceFolders instead of rootPath
Promise<BashServer> {

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty would gcc optimize this

[unkempt ember]

would gcc optimize this

• @hoary sluice

It would, with the constant propagation heuristic. it should save a call and a jmp instruction to rewrite the function as :

function subtract(a::CInt, b::CInt)::CInt
  return a + b * ( -1 )
end

[valid jetty]

what do you think

fyi with O3 it doesnt even use those functions

at least for constant inputs

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty typescript isnt actually that bad

i just found out i can do this Omit<PersonApi, "id"> insted of creating a whole new ass type

[hoary sluice]

how did they manage to do that

[valid jetty]

constant folding, constant evaluation, simplification detection algorithms

[hoary sluice]

magic

this is why i dont do compilers anymore

too many sweats

[valid jetty]

did you know they have an algorithm to compute sums in terms of the formula

like they apply these to your code

iirc

[hoary sluice]

i write a formula with functions and loops and stuff and they compile time optimize it?

[valid jetty]

yes

look at this

there are no jumps here

i actually dont know what theyre doing here

some "youre not supposed to understand this" type of thing

[hoary sluice]

@valid jetty which npm variant do i use

[hoary sluice]

i wouldnt be surprised if you did know

[valid jetty]

tbh i just use pnpm whenever i decide to involve myself with the hell that is the js ecosystem

[hoary sluice]

js ecosystem better than using dioxus

i tried

its hard

react is easier

[valid jetty]

ok lecture time

bai bai

[hoary sluice]

oh right i have to like sign up for uni classes

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Bluesky · Oct 4, 2025, 5:17 AM

[autumn yoke]

Hi

[spark tiger]

hi

[crude star]

i see a jump though ?

there's clearly a ret instruction

[limpid mica]

who up arm64ing rn

[winged mantle]

i saw a book at a shop which is just https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ but printed

should i have bought it

[ionic lake]

Sure

you would've felt more inclined to read it and complete it

that's atleast the case for me

[spark tiger]

true

though for me it also depends on the quality of the book

if it’s literally just printed on a4 paper then id rather read it online

if it has some like yk good material then yeah sure

[median root]

Can anyone think of an actual use for wasm compiled plugins within a rust app? Im implementing it but I forgot to think about the use cases and im now getting sunken-cost-fallacied

like not wasi just plain wasm

[ionic lake]

Isolation? multi-language support?

[median root]

from my newly-done research, the only thing it seems to be able to do it take a value, do something and return something. i just have no idea how thats actually meant to work in a plugin system

[ornate quiver]

platform independent plugins that interact with your provided apis

[median root]

can that be done in base wasm? do you not need wasi for that?

[ornate quiver]

what's wasi

[median root]

its like a web assembly that can interact with the system

the crate I use only builds for wasm32-unknown-unknown

[ionic lake]

What do you think you need wasm for and why

[ornate quiver]

like platform bindings?
I mean you don't need but it would be a nice to have

[ionic lake]

What's your usecase

Also hii rushi

[median root]

well my first thought was build into a shared object but i didnt like the idea of architecture dependent plugins since i myself hate it when other things arent compiled for my arch

[ornate quiver]

hii

[median root]

so after some research i chose wasm

[ionic lake]

K sounds good but like, what do you need it for

What's your project

Wasm runtimes can be heavy to bring

[median root]

yeah its like 150-200 extra deps

[ionic lake]

True true

[median root]

been building a music player but i figured theres some features i dont want myself like CD support and I dont wanna keep having to recompile for different things so my thought was make a plugin system

[spark tiger]

zed?

it uses wasm plugins as well code editor plugins

[ionic lake]

Wasm is probably ok, but you're going to be messing with filesystem apis I assume and idk if that fits your security model

[median root]

ill have a look into how it does it then