#🏥-vencord-support-🏥

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hazy breach
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they're bundled together with vencord

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they arent separate files

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you need to clone from git to edit/make plugins

covert kettle
devout stream
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um i still cant do it- u think it might have something to do with the fact that there are time stamps in the message i’m trying to copy?

broken tiger
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I saw a few days ago that Vencord can be injected into discord-screenaudio as shown by the maintainer here https://github.com/maltejur/discord-screenaudio/issues/59#issuecomment-1275068867 but I have no idea how to do it, Is there a guide or any documentation I can read about this?

In case It matters, discord-screenaudio is just the discord web version wrapped in Chromium with a few extra functionalities added to make screenshare with audio work on both Xorg and Wayland

broken tiger
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It doesn't really matter though

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all I need to do is the injection, that was just an explanation

azure perch
broken tiger
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I'll try

copper iris
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we dont support anything besides official discord desktop, web, and armcord

broken tiger
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It's just the web version wrapped around chromium, so I thought there would be an easy way to do this

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I guess I'll wait for the dev to answer my question in their issues and try the vencord branch like @azure perch suggested

copper iris
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again, any support or docs would be up to the client devs

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i have zero idea how that client works

broken tiger
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fair

old quarry
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can anyone help me
my vencord installer is not launching
please help me

copper iris
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but yes a quick glance suggests they maintain a separate vencord branch, although the vencord version would be quite dated now

mighty ravenBOT
# copper iris vsupport more info

"doesn't work" or similar are not very helpful.
You can make our lives easier by doing the following steps:

  • Run the /vencord-debug command to send information about your Discord and Vencord to us
  • Are there any errors? Open the console (Ctrl+Shift+I) and check the console tab. If there are any errors (red text), please provide them.
  • Does this issue persistently happen, or only sometimes?
  • Please provide steps to reproduce this issue. Screenshots or videos are also helpful.
old quarry
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?

copper iris
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saying "not launching" doesnt help

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we need more info

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could you show a video?

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what OS are you on?

old quarry
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come in vc

copper iris
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i cant join a vc

old quarry
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just watch scean

copper iris
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i cant

old quarry
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then what ill do

copper iris
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record a video or something

old quarry
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ok

copper iris
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and post it here

old quarry
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wait

broken tiger
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Vencord Debug Info

Discord Branch: ptb
Client: Web (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/112.0)
Platform: MacIntel
Vencord Version: cae8b1a (Web)
Outdated: false
Enabled Plugins:

AnonymiseFileNames, BadgeAPI, CommandsAPI, ContextMenuAPI, MemberListDecoratorsAPI, MenuItemDeobfuscatorAPI, MessageAccessoriesAPI, MessageDecorationsAPI, MessageEventsAPI, MessagePopoverAPI, NoticesAPI, ServerListAPI, CallTimer, ConsoleShortcuts, CrashHandler, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, NoTrack, NoUnblockToJump, PlatformIndicators, PronounDB, RoleColorEverywhere, ServerListIndicators, Settings, ShowHiddenChannels, SupportHelper, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, WebContextMenus, Webhook Tags
broken tiger
copper iris
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thats about a month ago, we've had quite a few versions since with bugfixes

broken tiger
dry yacht
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I don't know CSS, so does somebody has a snippet (or theme) to make this sidebar and icons a bit bigger

old quarry
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here is it

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@copper iris

azure perch
# old quarry here is it

maybe try other method, open powershell and run
iwr "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Vencord/Installer/main/install.ps1" | iex

old quarry
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ok

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wait

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see

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@azure perch

azure perch
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open internet explorer once

old quarry
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i have edge

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i have microsoft edge

azure perch
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just open ie

old quarry
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done

azure perch
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close ie and run it again

shell veldt
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iwr "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Vencord/Installer/main/install.ps1" -UseBasicParsing | iex```
old quarry
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ok

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now what

shell veldt
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Read

old quarry
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Which installer version do you want to use?

  1. Graphical - More user friendly but may not work on old GPUs or 32bit
  2. Terminal - Choose this option if the graphical installer does not work
    Q) Quit without doing anything
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ill choose 1

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bro

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not works too

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@shell veldt

azure perch
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then choose 2

old quarry
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ok

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wait

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its installing

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THANKS YOU

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WORKING

shell veldt
old quarry
shell veldt
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I will fix that soon

white wing
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how bannable is custom rpc

opal bolt
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Zero

frail smelt
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not

weak sky
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WAIT

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THE CLI INSTALLER IS BACK?????

white wing
frail smelt
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its been there

dense scarab
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could someone tell me how can i make my discord transparent & blurred? ive tried many transparent themes but the blur only works with a custom background image and since i dont know how this works i cant tell if im doing something wrong or you just cant set it up like that

rough saffron
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open settings. turn on transparency.

opal bolt
dense scarab
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ive already done that

opal bolt
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and you restarted discord?

dense scarab
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yeah multiple times

shell veldt
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for transparency just enable transparency

broken tiger
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How can I use a font of my own choosing? Is there a menu like in Aliucord?

opal bolt
hazy breach
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or just use quickcss

shell veldt
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maybe I should add that to the faq

broken tiger
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that would be a good idea, yeah

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Oh, this is only for google fonts, I meant using something like a .ttf file

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github is the only way for that I suppose

hazy breach
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i think you can use installed fonts

simple owl
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Just skip the first line

broken tiger
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Just skip the first line?

simple owl
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If you don't want to use a Google font don't import the Google font

broken tiger
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oh you mean the first step

simple owl
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Just enter the name of the font youve installed

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Oh ye, the first step

broken tiger
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sure but how am I gonna use that code if not with github?

shell veldt
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it's pretty simple to load ttf files too

broken tiger
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I can't exactly edit css themes

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can I?

simple owl
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You can

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I'm confused tho

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Oh this isn't your own theme you're customizing

broken tiger
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no it isn't

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I can just fork the theme I'm using and put it on my github tho

copper iris
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you could put some quickcss in to override the font

simple owl
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If you find the raw theme from GitHub you can copy and paste that into your quickcss

shell veldt
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@font-face {
  font-family: "MyCustomFont";
  src: url("https://some.url/myfont.ttf") format("ttf");
}
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instead of the Google import do this

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then use MyCustomFont as font

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and put that in ur quick css

broken tiger
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alright sure

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let me give that a try

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I did that and It didn't do anything, I'm using the Catpuccin theme, maybe the font is being overridden somehow?

#
  font-family: "TerminessTTF Nerd Font";
  src: url("https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/334780630053421067/1088466666712743936/TerminusTTF-Bold-4.49.2.ttf") format("ttf");
}```
jade sparrow
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Still having this error, damn. Can’t access really any plugins at all

broken tiger
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Here is what I typed in, in case that's helpful

hazy breach
broken tiger
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I could also just fork the catpuccin theme and put it on github

shell veldt
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now you also need to change the font variables like sun said

broken tiger
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I see

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Since there's no quick CSS editor as of right now in the client I guess I have to fork the code of the theme I'm using and change those variables

broken tiger
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?

simple owl
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There's one in settings

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Under Vencord

broken tiger
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Oh, I never noticed

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Imma go see that

shell veldt
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🥹

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how did u never notice

broken tiger
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I still don't see it as a matter of fact, I'm legally blind

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I don't really see anything other than the settings editor?

opal bolt
simple owl
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Click `Qui-

opal bolt
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hope you like my art skills 🥹

simple owl
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Ty

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Pictures really are worth 1000 words 😌

broken tiger
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oh I have to add the variables there

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I am disappointed that I didnt figure that out 🗿

slate saffron
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I GOT VENCORD TO WORK

weak depot
broken tiger
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which wasn't what I needed to do ofc

slate saffron
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It took me a hour and someone’s help but it works

simple owl
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Sometimes IT be like that

nimble wren
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i uninstalled discord and deleted all discord files
then installed discord again + Vencord + openasar

and i have problem every time i restart my pc discord ask me to login again

slate saffron
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Damn

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I did the cmd one

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Cause the quick download one didn’t work

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What is this?

nimble wren
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music bot?

shell veldt
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do you mean restart?

nimble wren
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yes sorry

weak depot
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imagine bro reset his pc just to get it to work

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💀

shell veldt
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do you use developer tools frequently?

nimble wren
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i don't even use them
also it doesn't ask me to re login in browser so it's something with the app

weak depot
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look and see if there is a newer one

weak depot
nimble wren
weak depot
# nimble wren

if you don’t mind would you care and try downloading ptb logging in and doing what causes the log out and seeing if you are also logged out of ptb

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see if it’s a glitch on stable or on your computer in specific

nimble wren
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i have ptb + Vencord + openasar with 5 alt none of them ask to re login
do you want to uninstall ptb and deleted all it files then reinstall it and try it with this account?

weak depot
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they come and go

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probably better off to use ptb for a lil

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check back in on the next update and see if it still does it

hard estuary
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is there a simple way to replace a line of text with another word using css?

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I have a unique e-mail domain name on my main account that I want to hide/obfuscate a bit better

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in the My Account settings page

shell veldt
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yes

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you can use css ::after to add text

hard estuary
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so what would an example look like? 😅

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let's say replace a with b

weak depot
hard estuary
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I don't wanna turn on streamer mode :)

shell veldt
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.some-selector {
   width: 0px;
}

.some-selector::after {
   content: "mydummyemail@example.com";
}```
hard estuary
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thx

shell veldt
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idk if there's a better way than to set the width to 0, but this should work

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obviously change some-selector

hard estuary
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I got this to work, just shrinks the entire block (e-mail + phone number)

/*Antidoxx*/
.fieldList-in8WkP {
  display: none;
}```
shell veldt
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Well hiding it is also an option yeah

hard estuary
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would something like this: .avatar-b5OQ1N[src*="/avatars/799022442671505408"] work but for selecting a specific piece of text?

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mostly the [] part

shell veldt
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not possible

jade sparrow
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Any known fixes? Kinda wanna use plugins 😅

shell veldt
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no known fixes

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it's a strange issue almost noone has

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they see it

fluid dune
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what's new in new update? I miss to read this

heavy glade
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Hi, I just wanted to know if you could use the themes from better discord with vencord and still have them in another computer that vencord isn't installed in. I tried this with the fake nitro themes, and it did work. But now if I go to another computer or even just go to the browser version of discord it's just the regular discord. And also I got the fake nitro update but it still doesn't work when I switch accounts or stay online for too much time it dissapears

jade jacinth
broken tiger
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Esc key completly not working within vencord, when i press the key it does nothing, for example when i'm in settings it won't exit settings and when i'm editting a message it won't cancel editing, how do i fix it?

charred nebula
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restart?

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and also

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vsupport more info

mighty ravenBOT
# charred nebula vsupport more info

"doesn't work" or similar are not very helpful.
You can make our lives easier by doing the following steps:

  • Run the /vencord-debug command to send information about your Discord and Vencord to us
  • Are there any errors? Open the console (Ctrl+Shift+I) and check the console tab. If there are any errors (red text), please provide them.
  • Does this issue persistently happen, or only sometimes?
  • Please provide steps to reproduce this issue. Screenshots or videos are also helpful.
broken tiger
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Well i can't provide more info than this, it literally does nothing when i press it, there are no errors, it persisted through multiple restarts, i have no clue why this happens

charred nebula
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run /vencord-debug

broken tiger
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Vencord Debug Info

Discord Branch: canary
Client: Desktop (Electron v22.3.2)
Platform: Win32
Vencord Version: 082ac62 (Standalone)
Outdated: false
Enabled Plugins:

AlwaysTrust, AnonymiseFileNames, BadgeAPI, CommandsAPI, ContextMenuAPI, MemberListDecoratorsAPI, MenuItemDeobfuscatorAPI, MessageAccessoriesAPI, MessageDecorationsAPI, MessageEventsAPI, MessagePopoverAPI, NoticesAPI, ServerListAPI, BetterNotesBox, BetterUploadButton, CallTimer, CrashHandler, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, iLoveSpam, KeepCurrentChannel, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MessageLogger, MuteNewGuild, NoCanaryMessageLinks, NoTrack, NoUnblockToJump, petpet, PlainFolderIcon, PlatformIndicators, ReverseImageSearch, Settings, ShikiCodeblocks, ShowHiddenChannels, SupportHelper, TypingIndicator, ReactErrorDecoder, ViewIcons, ViewRaw
charred nebula
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switch to stable

frail smelt
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mm electron 22

broken tiger
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uh i can't atm I have betterdiscord installed on stable and still sometimes use it (vencord doesn't have all the features I use so i want to keep installation of bd), will it fix the issue or are you just guessing?

copper iris
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keybinds will just break for no reason, its more than just the esc key sadly

broken tiger
copper iris
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i dont have a list for you, but im aware ctrl+f breaks too

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randomly

broken tiger
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oof, okay then i will consider switching to stable

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thanks for help

weak depot
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unless there is something i’m missing

broken tiger
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will it work on ptb if it doesn't work on canary?

weak depot
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canary is a lot less stable as ptb

broken tiger
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i don't really know much about ptb other than its a different version of discord from stable and canary

weak depot
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canary is alpha ptb is beta

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less glitches on ptb compared to canary

broken tiger
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ok i may try but i may just move fully from bd to vencord since it's a lot nicer and faster, so i think i will just uninstall bd soon and move vencord installation to stable

weak depot
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stupid autocorrect

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i don’t even know what that word is or means

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i’m gonna take a english class istg

shell veldt
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unrelated to vencord

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just restart

shell veldt
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almost all keybinds break

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but just restarting fixes it

copper iris
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ah it is all of them

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okay

devout stream
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viewraw is broken on webcord using the vancord extention

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it doesnt have any issues on desktop, however

fickle zinc
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yes

simple owl
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/* Hide Nitro gift button */
button[aria-label="Send a gift"] {
  display: none;
}

/* Hide GIF picker button */
button[aria-label="Open GIF picker"] {
  display: none;
}

/* Hide sticker picker button */
button[aria-label="Open sticker picker"] {
  display: none;
}

/* Hide annoying sticker popup window that appears when you type */
.da-channelTextArea>.container-JHR0NT {
  display: none;
}
fickle zinc
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thx

simple owl
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np

fickle zinc
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but settings

simple owl
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hm

fickle zinc
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i need to remove billing entirely

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well want

simple owl
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oh

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there's a css snippet for that

warm birchBOT
# simple owl https://github.com/D3SOX/complementary-discord-theme/

**hide-nitro-upselling.theme.scss: **Lines 39-41

[class*="cozyMessage"] > [class*="buttonContainer"] > [class*="buttons"] > [class*="wrapper"] > [aria-label*="Add Super Reaction"], // Message Hover menu super reactions
[id^="popout"] [class*="colorPremiumGradient"], // Message Hover overflow menu super reactions
#message [class*="colorPremiumGradient"], // Message right click menu super reactions
vestal hollow
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Tried running through the terminal but still doesn't work.

vestal hollow
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lemme try again

real mountain
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are you on mac

shell veldt
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Please grant the installer Full Disk Access in the system settings (privacy & security page).

shell veldt
real mountain
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oh, of course you are, I didn't even look at the profile

shell veldt
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check the background

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or pfp or name LMAO

vestal hollow
near crow
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why does vencord not work for me?

shell veldt
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u tell us

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vsupport more info

mighty ravenBOT
# shell veldt vsupport more info

"doesn't work" or similar are not very helpful.
You can make our lives easier by doing the following steps:

  • Run the /vencord-debug command to send information about your Discord and Vencord to us
  • Are there any errors? Open the console (Ctrl+Shift+I) and check the console tab. If there are any errors (red text), please provide them.
  • Does this issue persistently happen, or only sometimes?
  • Please provide steps to reproduce this issue. Screenshots or videos are also helpful.
grave vapor
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im using client themes but the emoji tab looks like this is it normal?

rich tide
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yep

grave vapor
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ok

rich tide
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client themes are not well made

grave vapor
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ok

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thx

ornate remnant
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Hello, there is a way to use BetterDiscord plugins on vencord?

shell veldt
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no

ornate remnant
pastel cliff
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why won’t it let me install even though I gave it full disk access Mac btw

shell veldt
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you tell us

pastel cliff
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it says it doesn’t have access even though it does

shell veldt
pastel cliff
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I restarted it and re installed it

simple owl
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Good to know tho

pastel cliff
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What do i do

eager imp
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this pops up when i try installing

simple owl
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make sure you're selecting the base folder ..?

eager imp
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idk what the base folder is

loud finch
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trying to launch with vencord installed, at first launch it worked but then its stuck on trying to update and it wont launch at all. running on stable

frail smelt
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network issue

loud finch
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huh, im streaming a twitch stream at the same time lol

simple owl
red galleon
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XD

eager imp
shell veldt
shell veldt
eager imp
shell veldt
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how did you install discord

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install it the normal way

eager imp
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i unistalled it today then reinstalled it

shell veldt
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did you open it at all

eager imp
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open the installer?

shell veldt
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discord

eager imp
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im confused

simple owl
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how do you typically open discord

eager imp
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i search it up then click open

simple owl
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can you choose > open file location

broken tiger
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Did discord have an update or something?

eager imp
simple owl
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and then open file location on the shortcut

simple owl
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if you have discord somewhere else put in that path instead

shell veldt
simple owl
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tru

eager imp
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im gonna reinstall

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ok it pops up now ty!

near crow
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it's been working like 3 hours ago and now when i reopened discord it doesnt work

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fuck it imma reinstall discord

lean marten
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openasar solos discord starehandshake

abstract holly
broken tiger
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do they fake nitro emojis show everywhere?

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like even on non vanchord clients

shell veldt
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yes but they show as link

simple owl
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and the link gets replaced by the emoji (w slightly reduced quality) on other clients

open wigeon
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message logger plugin shows message deleted in reply but its not

torn lagoon
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Yeah happens to me.too

viral flicker
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How can i add custom plugins ?

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I like betterdiscord but also i like vencord and i want to make somehow a combination of two of them

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i like some features from here and also from there and i wanna just mix them up

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to make the perfect "discord"

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so

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How i can like add or remove or copy plugins and stuff like that?

jade jacinth
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Find where they store plug-ins and put it in there

viral flicker
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I dont find no where

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I found vencord but there are no plugins thing or smth like that

shell veldt
viral flicker
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So how i can mix them up ?

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I like your features

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and bd one's

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how i can mix them up

bronze iron
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theres no third-party plugins but you can technically make your own

bronze iron
viral flicker
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ain't a developer to make my plugins

bronze iron
real mountain
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unless you want to rewrite plugins from one client mod to work with the other, you can't

bronze iron
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^

real mountain
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they are not compatible in any way

viral flicker
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As example

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on bd it has some stuff like timestamps or notifications or sound changing or guild removal notification and timezones of other people etc

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that would be idk nice to have em there

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and i wanted to all those things into vencord

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I'm not sure if you can or want to but can you somehow add those plugins maybe into vencord maybe in next update

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a better version of better discord ahahaha smth like that

real mountain
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if there are specific ideas you have for plugins you can see if they've already been suggested in #1015408930060501033 (look at the link in the channel topic)

viral flicker
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ok i understand .

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The invisible chat doesn't work

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that " Echrypt message "

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undefined

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thats what is typing

simple owl
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testing ‌⁤⁡‍⁢‍‌⁢⁤⁡⁡⁢⁡‍‌⁡‌‍⁢‌⁢⁡⁢‍⁡‌⁡⁤⁤‍⁣‌⁡‌‍‌⁡⁢⁡⁤⁡⁡⁢‍‌⁡‍⁡‍⁣⁣‍⁣⁡⁣‍⁡⁡⁢⁡‍‌‍⁡⁣⁤‌⁡⁡⁢⁡‌⁢⁢‌⁢⁡⁢the invisible chat

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oh

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yeah that seems like something went wrong

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lemme try again

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‍‍⁡‌⁡⁢⁤⁡⁢⁣⁡⁢⁢‌‍⁡⁣⁢⁢⁡‍‌⁤⁡⁢⁡⁣⁡⁢⁡‌⁤⁡‍‍⁤⁢⁢‌⁢⁣⁤⁡‌⁢⁣⁢⁡‌⁡‍‍⁢⁢‌⁢⁣⁢‍⁢‍‍‍‍⁡‍‍‌⁤‍⁡⁣⁡⁢‌⁢⁤⁡⁣‍⁣‍‍‍⁢‍

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wait okay that time it worked fine

bronze iron
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I have this patch, but it's not logging anything? It should log "parsing" at least?

bronze iron
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yeah i got that but i’m not sure why

bronze iron
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im trying to match the parse function for codeblocks

shell veldt
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just look at unindent

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it already does it

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lol

bronze iron
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good to know, ty lmao

shell veldt
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also wrong channel

bronze iron
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my bad

shell veldt
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too many

azure perch
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?

shell veldt
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hes saying Vencord broke for him

hot zephyr
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How do I fix broken discord install when trying to install vencord?

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(pls @ me if u respond)

shell veldt
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what

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elaborate please. show Screenshots

azure perch
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@old quarry @hot zephyr provide more info or accept that

old epoch
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Not really support, more of a question. I pasted the raw link into my Vencord, and nothing happens. It tells me its valid, thats all.

hot zephyr
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Oh I gotchu

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Aw no embed perms

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There

shell veldt
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Read?

hot zephyr
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:|

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I tried what it said

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didn't do shit

shell veldt
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click take me there

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and show a screenshot

hot zephyr
shell veldt
mighty ravenBOT
# shell veldt vsupport more info

"doesn't work" or similar are not very helpful.
You can make our lives easier by doing the following steps:

  • Run the /vencord-debug command to send information about your Discord and Vencord to us
  • Are there any errors? Open the console (Ctrl+Shift+I) and check the console tab. If there are any errors (red text), please provide them.
  • Does this issue persistently happen, or only sometimes?
  • Please provide steps to reproduce this issue. Screenshots or videos are also helpful.
shell veldt
# hot zephyr

so it's empty, in this case you can just press ok and then install

old epoch
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Vencord Debug Info

Discord Branch: stable
Client: Desktop (Electron v13.6.6)
Platform: Win32
Vencord Version: 8d8cedd (Standalone)
Outdated: false
Enabled Plugins:

BadgeAPI, CommandsAPI, ContextMenuAPI, MemberListDecoratorsAPI, MenuItemDeobfuscatorAPI, MessageAccessoriesAPI, MessageDecorationsAPI, MessageEventsAPI, MessagePopoverAPI, NoticesAPI, ServerListAPI, CallTimer, CrashHandler, MessageLogger, NoTrack, Settings, ShowHiddenChannels, SilentTyping, SpotifyControls, SupportHelper
azure perch
shell veldt
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you're importing some random file

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that's not a theme

old epoch
fair kraken
#

tell me this is just network issues

shell veldt
#

I fixed that just now, just try again

old epoch
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Fixed it, all good.

fair kraken
#

yup, it worked

old quarry
fair kraken
#

it's already fixed

old quarry
#

ok

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lemme try

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What is emote cloner?

old quarry
simple owl
old quarry
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and how to use

simple owl
#

two ways:

  1. when someone sends an emoji in chat
  2. from the emoji picker
wheat tinsel
#

ok so im trying to install vencord but neither the cli or the gui installers work
the cli client opens for a split second with this and then closes

azure perch
#

try powershell script

jade sparrow
wheat tinsel
#

i can only run shit in administrator mode for whatever reason

azure perch
#

your powershell?

wheat tinsel
#

yea

azure perch
wheat tinsel
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i double clicked the file

azure perch
#

open cmd at that folder

wheat tinsel
#

ok i got it i think

hazy breach
#

press enter

wheat tinsel
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yes yes i know i did that already

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waiting for it to load rn

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ok good it installed
that was one of the simplest solutions which i literally didnt think of

glass cloud
#

@shell veldt hey, sry for the ping.. but could you add a few qol plugins to vencord?

hazy breach
#

and maybe specify what should be added

glass cloud
#

Ah, okay

viral flicker
#

I can't see sharescreens

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how to fix it ?

rough saffron
#

discord bug.

viral flicker
#

well other friends can see

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they have the original one

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i'm the only one with vencord

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so possible from vencord

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I unnistalled vencord from discord and now sharescreens work

rough saffron
#

probably a coincidence because you restarted discord

wheat tinsel
#

i set every graphics related setting to off/minimum

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or smth

charred nebula
#

Bro

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I'd cry with that setup

wheat tinsel
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i had to actually switch to a worser pc for a month or so

slender vigil
#

how do you use the corruptmp4s plugin

azure perch
slender vigil
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oh that should probably be added to the plugin description

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it does work btw

dry yacht
shut finch
#

Are the animated stickers working for everyone who is using fake nitro?

opal bolt
#

Yeah works for me

flat geyser
#

why my discord be crashin when i try to watch a stream
(archlinux, wlroots compositor)

weak depot
flat geyser
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i'm using i think stable discord but with electron 19 something

weak depot
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well i mean unmodded

flat geyser
#

other than vencord there's nothing there i think

weak depot
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i mean

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try it without vencord and see if it crashes

flat geyser
weary coral
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Hi, hope it's ok to ask a general discord question. Do you know if it's possible to customize that text for my server?

heavy glade
weak depot
heavy glade
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example: Sussy baka it will say "message sussy baka"

flat geyser
heavy glade
#

ig it

weak depot
heavy glade
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over

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lol

weak depot
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try redownloading

heavy glade
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your computer too old prob

weak depot
#

no

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my computer is 10 yrs old and runs it fine

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i experience 0 problems

weary coral
weak depot
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most problems are from linux and windows users

weary coral
weak depot
weary coral
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yeah instead of message channel … set something else like "no support"

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ah that sucks, would be a cool feature. thanks wolfang

weak depot
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we have other channels

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you probably lost perms to use them

weary coral
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I mean replace the "message #channel…" text in the message box with another text in my server

weak depot
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no you can’t edit it unless you are using modded dc and even then it’ll be client side

heavy glade
#

which theme do u guys have rn?

weak depot
opal bolt
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Default so i can post screenshots and not rise any alarms lol

weary coral
#

default for auto light / dark switch. It would be cool for custom themes to switch

weak depot
opal bolt
#

but you can get banned for using client mods

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it's violating tos

flat geyser
heavy glade
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yeah ik, but ntts did a video on it and he only talks bout discord

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this one is cool

weak depot
weak depot
#

not worth pirating them

azure perch
weak depot
weak depot
#

plus i don’t talk in any servers other than modded dc servers and friend servers

flat geyser
weak depot
flat geyser
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i could disable it before but i don't remember how

heavy glade
weak depot
#

i only know how to bring up settings on mac os

heavy glade
#

Imagine having the see hidden channels and if you could actually see what they write poggers

flat geyser
#

AYO???

heavy glade
charred nebula
heavy glade
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lol

flat geyser
#

but i can't enable ozone wayland

bitter breach
#

Themes wont load. Now discord wont load, stuck on updates. reinstalled vencord + updates

broken tiger
#

@placid surge Hello, i have followed all the steps for the CustomRPC to wrok but it not working, can you please help me out?

broken tiger
placid surge
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peculiar

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uhh, what settings do you have?

broken tiger
placid surge
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hmm

broken tiger
#

do i restart discord from vencord or from the tray?

placid surge
#

uhh pretty sure you only need to ctrl +r

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any errors in console?

broken tiger
placid surge
#

🤔

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try running /vencord-debug, it'll output some info about your vencord installation

placid surge
#

in this channel

opal bolt
#

As a command

broken tiger
#

Vencord Debug Info

Discord Branch: stable
Client: Desktop (Electron v22.3.2)
Platform: Win32
Vencord Version: 8d8cedd (Standalone)
Outdated: false
Enabled Plugins:

AnonymiseFileNames, BadgeAPI, CommandsAPI, ContextMenuAPI, MemberListDecoratorsAPI, MenuItemDeobfuscatorAPI, MessageAccessoriesAPI, MessageDecorationsAPI, MessageEventsAPI, MessagePopoverAPI, NoticesAPI, ServerListAPI, BlurNSFW, CallTimer, CrashHandler, CustomRPC, Experiments, FakeNitro, FriendInvites, FxTwitter, MessageLinkEmbeds, MoreKaomoji, NoTrack, petpet, ReadAllNotificationsButton, Settings, SpotifyControls, SupportHelper, VolumeBooster
placid surge
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lemme just compare it to mine real quick

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Vencord Debug Info

Discord Branch: stable
Client: Desktop (Electron v13.6.6)
Platform: Linux x86_64
Vencord Version: 082ac62
Outdated: false
Enabled Plugins:

AlwaysTrust, BadgeAPI, CommandsAPI, ContextMenuAPI, MemberListDecoratorsAPI, MenuItemDeobfuscatorAPI, MessageAccessoriesAPI, MessageDecorationsAPI, MessageEventsAPI, MessagePopoverAPI, NoticesAPI, ServerListAPI, BetterNotesBox, BetterRoleDot, BlurNSFW, CallTimer, ClearURLs, ConsoleShortcuts, CorruptMp4s, CrashHandler, CustomRPC, UrbanDictionary, EmoteCloner, Experiments, FakeNitro, FixInbox, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, HideAttachments, iLoveSpam, InvisibleChat, KeepCurrentChannel, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageTags, MoreCommands, MoreKaomoji, Moyai, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoF1, NoReplyMention, NoScreensharePreview, NoSystemBadge, NoTrack, NoUnblockToJump, oneko, petpet, PlatformIndicators, PronounDB, QuickMention, ReverseImageSearch, RoleColorEverywhere, ServerListIndicators, Settings, ShikiCodeblocks, SilentMessageToggle, SilentTyping, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, SpotifyShareCommands, StartupTimings, SupportHelper, TimeBarAllActivities, TypingTweaks, Unindent, ReactErrorDecoder, UwUifier, VoiceChatDoubleClick, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, VolumeBooster, Webhook Tags, CustomRPCSupportHelper, freeThemes
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one thing that seems interesting is you're on electron v22. unsure if that would affect this though

broken tiger
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Is the unix timestamp needed for it to work?

placid surge
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huh?

broken tiger
placid surge
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yeah that's the default, it should work

broken tiger
#

Is there anything you would suggest trying?

placid surge
#

okay uhh, does disabling and enabling CustomRPC work?

azure perch
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customrpc doesnt work for me too trolley

broken tiger
#

Let me try

azure perch
#

Vencord Debug Info

Discord Branch: stable
Client: Desktop (Electron v22.3.2)
Platform: Win32
Vencord Version: 0fe4863 (Dev)
Outdated: false
Enabled Plugins:

AlwaysTrust, BadgeAPI, CommandsAPI, ContextMenuAPI, MemberListDecoratorsAPI, MenuItemDeobfuscatorAPI, MessageAccessoriesAPI, MessageDecorationsAPI, MessageEventsAPI, MessagePopoverAPI, NoticesAPI, ServerListAPI, BetterGifAltText, BetterNotesBox, BetterUploadButton, CallTimer, ClearURLs, CrashHandler, CustomRPC, DevCompanion, DisableDMCallIdle, EmoteCloner, Experiments, F8Break, FakeNitro, FixInbox, ForceOwnerCrown, FriendInvites, IgnoreActivities, iLoveSpam, KeepCurrentChannel, LastFMRichPresence, LoadingQuotes, MemberCount, MessageClickActions, MessageLinkEmbeds, MessageLogger, NoBlockedMessages, NoCanaryMessageLinks, NoDevtoolsWarning, NoF1, NoScreensharePreview, NoSystemBadge, NoTrack, NoUnblockToJump, NSFWGateBypass, PlatformIndicators, QuickMention, QuickReply, ReverseImageSearch, RoleColorEverywhere, Settings, ShikiCodeblocks, SilentTyping, SortFriendRequests, SpotifyControls, SpotifyCrack, StartupTimings, SupportHelper, TextReplace, TimeBarAllActivities, TypingIndicator, TypingTweaks, Unindent, ReactErrorDecoder, VcNarrator, ViewIcons, ViewRaw, Webhook Tags
azure perch
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oh im e 22 too

shell zodiac
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vencord installer not opening

placid surge
#

okay uhh the common theme between you two is you're both on electron v22

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(ignoring the fact autumn's install is outdated trolley)

shell zodiac
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tried all of the versions but none of them worked

placid surge
mighty ravenBOT
# placid surge vsupport moreinfo

"doesn't work" or similar are not very helpful.
You can make our lives easier by doing the following steps:

  • Run the /vencord-debug command to send information about your Discord and Vencord to us
  • Are there any errors? Open the console (Ctrl+Shift+I) and check the console tab. If there are any errors (red text), please provide them.
  • Does this issue persistently happen, or only sometimes?
  • Please provide steps to reproduce this issue. Screenshots or videos are also helpful.
shell zodiac
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how to run vencord debug command

placid surge
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if vencord isn't loading, ignore that one

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oh wait thei nstaller isnt opening

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i cant read

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uhh

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make sure to run in a terminal (like cmd)!

broken tiger
placid surge
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try using Electron v13 i guess

broken tiger
supple sorrel
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im new to vencord btw can u help

placid surge
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did you fully restart discord from the tray or task manager

supple sorrel
#

yes

shell zodiac
supple sorrel
placid surge
placid surge
supple sorrel
placid surge
supple sorrel
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no

placid surge
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you can still open the web inspector in the browser. Or you can turn it back on using by setting "DANGEROUS_ENABLE_DEVTOOLS_ONLY_ENABLE_IF_YOU_KNOW_WHAT_YOURE_DOING": true in %appdata%/discord/settings.json.

broken tiger
placid surge
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i'm not gonna be able to for a couple hours but i will let you know once i've submitted a fix

abstract holly
placid surge
supple sorrel
#

in where srry

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?

placid surge
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uh press win + r, and type notepad %appdata%/discord/settings.json

supple sorrel
placid surge
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you see that } before the last }?

supple sorrel
#

here

placid surge
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yeah. add ,"DANGEROUS_ENABLE_DEVTOOLS_ONLY_ENABLE_IF_YOU_KNOW_WHAT_YOURE_DOING": true there

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then save, and reopen discord

supple sorrel
#

ok

supple sorrel
#

or the top one

placid surge
#

top one

supple sorrel
#

ok

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like this

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?

placid surge
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like that yeah

supple sorrel
#

let me try

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still dont work

placid surge
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try ctrl + shift + i in discord. should open a new window with some stuff, like inspect element in a browser

supple sorrel
#

yea

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i see

placid surge
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ok open console, and look for something near the top that says "filter" or search or something

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type vencord in it

supple sorrel
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filter on the top?

placid surge
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yeah the filter thing up there

#

type vencord

supple sorrel
placid surge
#

huh..

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does the vencord installer say patched?

supple sorrel
placid surge
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if you reopen it and check the path, does it have [patched] before it

supple sorrel
#

reopen vencord?

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or discord

placid surge
#

the installer

hazy breach
weary coral
#

WhoReacted has been acting up lately for me. It takes 10s or so to fetch reactions and the messages kinda undulate in the chat a bit.

hazy breach
hazy breach
#

though i have seen the latter happen

placid surge
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why are you using a custom path?

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the top one is discord

weary coral
hazy breach
shell zodiac
weary coral
placid surge
#

win + r, and type cmd

shell zodiac
#

i opened terminal

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and now what should i do

placid surge
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cd to the directory you downloaded the cli installer, and run it

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i unfortunately have to go now :(

shell zodiac
#

ahh ok

placid surge
#

if you're still unsure on the how, google is your friend

shell zodiac
#

aight

flat geyser
shell veldt
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idk

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this is not the right place for that though

flat geyser
shell veldt
#

it just subscribes to member chunks discord sends it

supple sorrel
#

hold on let me see

#

brb

shell veldt
warm birchBOT
# shell veldt https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/blob/main/src/plugins/memberCount.tsx#L106...

**memberCount.tsx: **Lines 106-119

onGuildMemberListUpdate({ guildId, groups, memberCount, id }) {
    // eeeeeh - sometimes it has really wrong counts??? like 10 times less than actual
    // but if we only listen to everyone updates, sometimes we never get the count?
    // this seems to work but isn't optional
    if (id !== "everyone" && counts[guildId]) return;

    let count = 0;
    for (const group of groups) {
        if (group.id !== "offline")
            count += group.count;
    }
    counts[guildId] = [memberCount, count];
    forceUpdate?.();
},
shell veldt
#

that's how it works

shell zodiac
#

uhh what should i do now

azure perch
#

name.exe -install

shell zodiac
azure perch
#

add -install to the command you just typed

shell zodiac
#

oh

shell veldt
#

don't manually download the cli

shell zodiac
azure perch
#

use powershell script

flat geyser
uncut notch
#

💀💀

placid surge
azure perch
shell veldt
#

yes

placid surge
#

o h

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my bad

shell veldt
#

it currently has a small bug where it doesn't work on old pwsh

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because old pwsh dum

placid surge
#

you mean the one windows ships with?

shell veldt
#

ye

abstract holly
simple owl
#

Pwsh do be a little funky

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I am so glad nowadays it aliased its commands w Linux ones

shell veldt
#

these aliases suck tho

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because they're in no way similar api

#

I just installed actual gnu coreutils

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and they work well

simple owl
#

Those are the only ones i regularly work with

shell veldt
#

yes

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their api is in no way similar to the actual Linux ones

#

they're just aliased to powershell variants but the powershell variants take entirely different flags

simple owl
#

Oh yes

shell veldt
#

try rm -rf, it doesn't work harold

simple owl
#

Yeah

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-rf is the only one I get stopped by, I tried to make my own alias but it was weird and I never got it to work
It's easier to just do rm and then A

#

Oh right ls -a too

#

You can only do ls -Hidden

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Or Get-Hidden maybe

#

I'll look into gnu coreutils

sinful lynx
#

My themes won't load, they don't show, nothing can work

shell veldt
#

vsupport more info

mighty ravenBOT
# shell veldt vsupport more info

"doesn't work" or similar are not very helpful.
You can make our lives easier by doing the following steps:

  • Run the /vencord-debug command to send information about your Discord and Vencord to us
  • Are there any errors? Open the console (Ctrl+Shift+I) and check the console tab. If there are any errors (red text), please provide them.
  • Does this issue persistently happen, or only sometimes?
  • Please provide steps to reproduce this issue. Screenshots or videos are also helpful.
sinful lynx
#

ok

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I fixed it, I also had better discord installed.

upbeat tide
reef lily
#

that dash is wrong

#

with the message preview plugin

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it displays incorrectly when the linked channel is not in a category

shell veldt
#

wha

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context?

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no idea where this shows

reef lily
#

the message preview plugin

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when linking a message

hazy breach
#

??

shell veldt
#

oh it's just a bug in general

warm birchBOT
shell veldt
#

this comma shouldn't be here

reef lily
#

oh ok

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oooohhh i thought it includes the category name

shut finch
#

it does nothing, when i click it

rotund patio
#

hey im pretty new to vencord, how do i use this plugin again?

simple owl
#

/tags

rotund patio
simple owl
#

Np

rotund patio
#

also what does this do, actually? is it like chat aliases in better discord?

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will it like auto fil a tag or do i have to manually load a tag or something

simple owl
#

/tags create name: <tag name> <message>
/tags get name:<tag name>
And Clyde sends you the tag message

crisp hearthBOT
#

<@&1015076643947167744>

simple owl
#

Oop

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Didn't mean to ping

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Something like this but w/ Clyde

viral fjord
#

idk if it's only me, but discord crashing when opening a private chat

simple owl
#

I think it's just you

crisp hearthBOT
#

The tag cum has been added!

#

@charred nebula

shell veldt
viral fjord
potent vessel
#

ehhhhhhhhhhhh

shell veldt
#

install discord

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🥹

potent vessel
#

I have discord

rotund patio
shell veldt
#

how did you install it

rotund patio
#

oh well

#

is it possible to run better discord plugins on vencord?

shell veldt
#

no

gentle depot
crisp hearthBOT
#

@charred nebula

gentle depot
#

haha

shell veldt
simple owl
rotund patio
#

its basically the tags thing but it automatically sends the tagged message, instead of you having to run a command, copy the tag from clydes message, and send it urself

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actually a pretty good plugin, i wonder if they can add that to vencord

shell veldt
#

yes actually in the works

simple owl
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Neat neat

rotund patio
astral sierra
#

NyasWave2 Is there any plugins or anything that adds vim/nvim like binding?

alpine hamlet
#

My friend is getting a 403 error in the installer

#

They're at school so I thought it might just be the network blocking it

#

but they opened up the vencord github just fine

shell veldt
#

rate limited likely

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just do it from a different network

alpine hamlet
#

I see

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Would it change anything if he doesn't have a github account logged in?

shell veldt
#

no

#

just rate limited, use a different network like i said

wary ether
#

Did GitHub not renew their SSL cert

shell veldt
#

?

wary ether
#

My vencord keeps crashing and it can't access the badges

shell veldt
#

unrelated

wary ether
charred nebula
#

what the fuck

#

github is dying

shell veldt
#

it really is lmao

charred nebula
#

is the cdn supposed to have no certificate?

#

is that one key supposed to be on public repositories?

wary ether
shell veldt
#

i meant to say is not isnt

#

anyway

#

that won't make discord crash

charred nebula
#

oh lol

shell veldt
#

it just makes it fail to fetch the badges

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github forgot something

gray loom
#

How do I change theme settings in vencord?

wary ether
#

oh it is a different error

#

what uses eval

shell veldt
#

dont use canary

charred nebula
#

real

wary ether
#

im on stable

charred nebula
#

make vencord not install on canary

#

😡

wary ether
#

is it an experiment?

shell veldt
#

then its a stable issue too

#

still a stock discord issue

#

that i dont have

#

so A/B testing

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related to this experiment being enabled

#

@wary ether

#

If this is enabled for you, DMs will crash you

#

can you try setting it to control (should disable it) and see if it fixes it please

sand edge
shell veldt
pale gate
#

hi am i to understand that themes don't work because of github atm ? (skimmed the last few message)

real mountain
#

that is likely correct, yes

wary ether
pale gate
#

Getting fetch errors on my fork of themes and tried others aswell

pale gate
shell veldt
wary ether
#

I had one open through channel selector right before I crashed

#

And now it crashes cause it auto navigates

shell veldt
#

xd

alpine hamlet
#

Is this related to that 403 I got earlier?

#

The expired certificate thing?

real mountain
#

fully close discord to restart, don't just reload - just reloading doesn't reset back to the friends list

shell veldt
#

you can only fix it with the console or wait for discord to fix it

pale gate
#

Is there an option or a plugin to store a theme file localy in a folder like BD instead or should we just wait for github to get back on their feet ?

wary ether
broken tiger
#

i used the latest installer and after i tried to run discord it gives an error

shell veldt
#

@wary ether

#
Vencord.Webpack.Common.FluxDispatcher.dispatch({
    type: "EXPERIMENT_OVERRIDE_BUCKET",
    experimentId: "2023-02_referral_trials",
    experimentBucket: 0
})
#

run this in the console

#

then restart discord and see if its fixed

shell veldt
#

you're welcome

viral fjord
# shell veldt

i disabled and then completely reset the experiment and now discord is fixed 😽

devout stream
#

why is viewraw left click and copyraw right click

shell veldt
#

why not

devout stream
#

its only intuitive for it to be the other way around

#

i think most ppl are using the plugin to copy raw text

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not to see whatever the heck that other stuff is lol

shell veldt
#

I use it to view raw

devout stream
#

whats hte point of that

shell veldt
#

reading

long cipher
#

I am getting a 403 forbidden error on the installer

#

And the install button is greyed out

broken tiger
#

same can anyone help

#

how can i disable my theme now?

tender sentinel
#

remove the link

broken tiger
#

how

crisp pollen
#

There is no field

broken tiger
#

yea

long cipher
#

I fixed it

tender sentinel
broken tiger
#

thx i found it

turbid furnace
#

are there any risks to using vencord? am i at risk of being banned from discord if i use some plugins?

tender sentinel
shell veldt
#

vfaq get banned

mighty ravenBOT
#
Will I get banned for using Vencord? Will plugin X get me banned?

Client modifications are against Discord's Terms of Service.

However, Discord is pretty indifferent about them and there are no known cases of users getting banned for using client mods! So you should generally be fine as long as you don't use any plugins that implement abusive behaviour. But no worries, all inbuilt plugins are safe to use!

Regardless, if your account is very important to you and it getting disabled would be a disaster for you, you should probably not use any client mods (not exclusive to Vencord), just to be safe

Additionally, make sure not to post screenshots with Vencord in a server where you might get banned for it

latent wasp
#

hey yo so I just joined looking for a key binding plugin or something for armcord?

shell veldt
#

this isnt armcord

#

(there is none)

latent wasp
#

yeah I know but it uses Vencord too inside the app

latent wasp
winged pagoda
#

yp

winged pagoda
#

i want to change it

#

its stuck

shell veldt
#

read the rules

#

do not ping people randomly for support

#

vfaq themes

mighty ravenBOT
#
My themes broke and now I can't open settings or disable them

open the dev tools with CTRL + Shift + i and click on the "console" tab at the top. Then paste and run (with enter) the following code.

It will

  • disable custom css (you can turn it back on in Vencord Settings)
  • copy your current theme links to your clipboard as a backup
  • remove all themes
(() => {
    Vencord.Settings.useQuickCss = false
    copy(Vencord.Settings.themeLinks.join("\n"))
    Vencord.Settings.themeLinks = []
})()
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you're probably also using some other mod

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or something like that

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vencord itself wouldn't cause that

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you can just reinstall Discord for the easiest fix

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how do i backup my plguins

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you don't need to

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ok

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they're already backed up

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all gone

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😦

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what plugins are you talking about

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vencord

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they can't be gone because you can't uninstall vencord plugins

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your settings are stored in a different directory so reinstalling discord doesn't affect them

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well they are not installed

copper iris
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do you mean you cant see the vencord section in settings?

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they are not enabled

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i can see it

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do you mean your settings then?

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just enable them again then :P

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^^

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But like I said, reinstalling discord wouldn't touch your settings

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unless you use the DISCORD_USER_DATA_DIR variable

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ok i think problem solved thanks

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(you don't then)

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where is reviewdb

copper iris
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it was removed from the mod

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you cant

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D:

copper iris
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it was removed because the service was unmoderated and ended up violating vencord's plugin guidelines

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This is a very nitpicky issue but on large servers PlatformIndicators doesn't seem to fetch the status of members when you're looking in a channel, at least on ArmCord. You have to click on their profile to show it. Also, you have to hovor over the prior messages to get it to show

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I don't know if this is just a fundamental issue of how the web version works

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I'll probably look over the code later, since it seems by default the status of people talking in chat isn't obtained on vanilla, but the people in the memberlist already do get their status obtained

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That's probably why

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I noticed this when looking at Aleph's status

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happened for me in desktop stable too, if i dont click your profile i wont see your status

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yes, it should be easy to add a setting that when you click on a channel not only are profiles and names loaded but also statuses, so you can then get them easily like that but I'm not sure

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I don't think it fetches anything

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so it will only use the data available to it in discords cache

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In a very large server it might simply not load all the members to save resources

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So this is likely a wontfix

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aww i see

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showing the presence for those people would require fetching everyone in chat and the memberlist

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which will quickly get you ratelimited

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yeah that was also my concern

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so in theory if there was a fix it would be a setting so everyone doesn't get ratelimited by default

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i noticed that only people with the highest roles are shown, because the memberlist only goes down so far

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at least in large servers like these ones

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Whoops

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Nvm

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I hope this makes sense

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I think we could make chat automatically rerender the message by subscribing to the presence store (we don't currently do this)

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