#🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

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unique jetty
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like just for testing

hushed lark
neon ferryBOT
pine zephyr
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somehow buttons on rich presence shows on voice chat

unique jetty
lost furnace
slow urchin
unique jetty
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whats support and what isnt then

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im not having a vencord issue

lost furnace
keen pike
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wtf @lost furnace koi is cheating on me with you

slow urchin
keen pike
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😭

pine zephyr
slow urchin
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I failed

unique jetty
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you are like the most funny person ever

cosmic otter
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the h is lowercase idiot

unique jetty
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im cracking up right now

cosmic otter
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you kept it uppercase

unique jetty
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whatever ill ask there

boreal torrent
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nope

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only github

unique jetty
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tough

keen pike
unique jetty
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my copyrighted fonts are going to have to wait then

slow urchin
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Raw

lost furnace
slow urchin
junior ridge
slow urchin
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Homegrog the struggler

pine zephyr
keen pike
crude fern
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anger

unique jetty
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ill move to support since now i am actually having an issue with vencord instead of it just being hypothetical

lost furnace
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I have been silenced for the 1 thing I'm good at wires

keen pike
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<3

lost furnace
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Koi is a cheater

jolly templeBOT
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erm

junior ridge
paper gate
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@burnt maple hiiiii

lost furnace
pine zephyr
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what

burnt maple
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koi even cheats with vee

junior ridge
paper gate
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@tough drift

burnt maple
paper gate
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oye

burnt maple
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hi

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bnuuy

boreal torrent
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hello

slow urchin
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Hallo everynyun

tulip oar
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@shadow owl

slow urchin
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The car

tulip oar
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oh clyde is dead

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@shadow owl

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wake up

paper gate
slow urchin
light cedar
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NO WAY

slow urchin
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Every muscle is extended

light cedar
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NO WAY

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NO FUCKING WAY

paper gate
light cedar
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HE'S BACK

slow urchin
light cedar
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DAN IS BACK TO THE LAB AGAIN

slow urchin
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:0

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NO FUCKING WAY

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TRAYAURUS

harsh minnow
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@paper gate never say bloons without the last two letters and the l

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so scary

edgy ermine
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boo

harsh minnow
edgy ermine
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lily of the september

slow urchin
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Hehe ur role says penits

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True

harsh minnow
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@tall vale

boreal torrent
hushed lark
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I banged your mom

boreal torrent
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☹️

burnt maple
slow urchin
hushed lark
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You might be asking “with what?”

edgy ermine
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alabama

burnt maple
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is xinto azerbaijanii

boreal torrent
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whats a wyoming

jolly templeBOT
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yk what version?

tall vale
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armenia is the bottom one

slow urchin
tall vale
hushed lark
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Well the answer to that question is my penuts

burnt maple
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wow

paper gate
lost furnace
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public divorce

harsh minnow
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I sent it to my azeri friend too

hushed lark
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Public execution happening every Saturday 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

paper gate
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@harsh minnow

boreal torrent
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hhls got timed out

lost furnace
boreal torrent
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☹️

tall vale
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eternal gods break this guy's balls

paper gate
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The time has come and so have I

lost furnace
slow urchin
paper gate
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@tough drift

boreal torrent
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hi zoot blobcatcozy

paper gate
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hi axy blobcatcozy

slow urchin
paper gate
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yop

bold adder
boreal torrent
lost furnace
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should I talk to my oomfies

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or go the fuck to bed

slow urchin
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Editing i did on my buddy, he's an NPC in a PSX game

slow urchin
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What

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My favorites are broken

slow urchin
bold adder
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donk donk

robust relic
slow urchin
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Dentist

slow urchin
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"BLAST BLAST FRUIT.... you're less scared of fireworks than normal"

boreal torrent
open pasture
slow urchin
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Fonker

open pasture
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fjonkie junpscare...

open pasture
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more like

burnt maple
open pasture
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fjoker...

raw panther
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get fjonked

open pasture
paper gate
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the fjonker

slow urchin
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Ngl

bold adder
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oh my gah jane doe is out in my timezone

jaunty sedge
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im the saul goodman baby

slow urchin
boreal torrent
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Friendship ended with Neovim.

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Now Helix is my best friend

jaunty sedge
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anyway hi hello hi

boreal torrent
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hi

upbeat echo
jaunty sedge
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oh wait i dont have image perms

jolly templeBOT
jaunty sedge
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reasonable

open pasture
slow urchin
boreal torrent
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of Helix?

open pasture
boreal torrent
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It's like Vim and Kakoune but so simple to use

boreal torrent
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to the point even normies could do it

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i like Neovim but

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Helix is amazing

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I like Helix's modal editing more

open pasture
jaunty sedge
open pasture
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i still dont get why this is better than neovim

jaunty sedge
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anyway, this is probably a frequently asked question, but im fucking paranoid so i'll still ask

digital kettle
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hai chat

slow urchin
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Hai fr

jaunty sedge
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can vencord get you banned off of discord?

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damn

slow urchin
open pasture
digital kettle
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haiii

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:3

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am not okay

slow urchin
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Poker

digital kettle
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:D

open pasture
remote ore
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heya anyone know that css snippet which makes the voice and deafen button appear when you hover your mouse over the settings cog

slow urchin
jaunty sedge
slow urchin
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My honest reaction

open pasture
robust relic
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@digital kettle mewo

jaunty sedge
slow urchin
barren gorge
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mrrp :3

barren gorge
jaunty sedge
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i was once petting my cat and she rolled off of the bed 😭

dusky forge
jaunty sedge
dusky forge
warped fossil
jaunty sedge
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id post my car but i dont have image perms

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it is what it is

robust relic
sly spear
jaunty sedge
open pasture
dusky forge
robust relic
jaunty sedge
open pasture
deep token
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@barren gorge haiiii

jaunty sedge
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i just realised

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i cant post my adachi gifs

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90% of my humor is fucking GONE

deep token
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issue of skill

jaunty sedge
boreal torrent
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overall better performance than Neovim

deep token
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so real

boreal torrent
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and imo better modal editing

edgy ermine
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I think i need a break from discord

jolly templeBOT
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changed is genuinely saw thw worst thing is straight no sense

edgy ermine
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And everything online

boreal torrent
open pasture
boreal torrent
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hope u do well

edgy ermine
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except homework and youtube ofc

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im probably gonna keep watching youtube

robust relic
edgy ermine
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watch me give up and be back within a day

open pasture
edgy ermine
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I don't watch youtube when eating

open pasture
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WHAT

edgy ermine
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I sit at the dinner table and eat with family

jaunty sedge
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it's so refreshing

open pasture
slow aspen
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Hi anyone know how to see all the discord channels of a server without having access?

neon ferryBOT
edgy ermine
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but you can't see messages

bold adder
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guhhh i dont wanna go to work

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i want to sleep

jaunty sedge
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anyway, kinda offtopic, but i began watching GATE recently

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the fourth anime i ever watched

boreal torrent
jaunty sedge
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it's pretty good, just started episode 3

boreal torrent
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it's a good starting point

burnt maple
edgy ermine
keen kernel
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virus?

jaunty sedge
keen kernel
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NOOO

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ITS VIRUS

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BLOAT

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BLOAT

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AHHHHH

jaunty sedge
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oh yeah you're fucked

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that reminds me i gotta update my drivers

barren gorge
burnt maple
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sealed

keen kernel
jaunty trellis
keen kernel
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YAYY

raw panther
keen kernel
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zed OPENED

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YAYY

jaunty trellis
wraith osprey
jaunty trellis
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doesn't nvida also have one?

raw panther
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yeah

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pretty sure amd does too no?

boreal torrent
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nvidia amd intel

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they all do

barren gorge
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can i edit my pfp with css 🔥

paper gate
keen kernel
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hey gamers look

boreal torrent
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terrible

jolly templeBOT
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blingeecore cat sound

boreal torrent
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blingeecore cat sound

sturdy folio
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ccleaner

barren gorge
sturdy folio
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when the

barren gorge
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delete your os

lone stag
barren gorge
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not the secret W.o.M.D. signal

lapis lava
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these days i have vesktop tailscale bitwarden avast defender

sturdy folio
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im not even sure why this is an option

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(thats my aio)

stray siren
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Eject it

barren gorge
open pasture
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how are you doing pookies

cursive hornet
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Goob

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:3

crude fern
open pasture
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average minecraft server

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you

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:3

barren gorge
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die

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*piano

open pasture
rare trout
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bruh whats with all the comp sci teachers ive had in college being asian with a thick accent

sturdy folio
cursive hornet
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:3

rare trout
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????

boreal torrent
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wdym "????"

open pasture
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So real

boreal torrent
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India has a huge CS market

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both counter-strike and computer science blueless

keen pike
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hi chat

cursive hornet
boreal torrent
keen pike
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how are you guys

boreal torrent
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im doing well

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im in school rn

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how

sturdy folio
keen pike
boreal torrent
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NOT GOOD

sturdy folio
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remember kids! stay in school

junior ridge
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i read that as elecrocuted

jolly templeBOT
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i'm done with gsp firmware

sturdy folio
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(coming from someone who always skips college classes)

junior ridge
junior ridge
paper gate
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yop

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i can shoot blood from my eyes

junior ridge
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bwaaa

sturdy folio
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can you kill macos haters 🥺

paper gate
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yes

crude fern
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@cursive hornet @junior ridge shut up woman

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yappers

cursive hornet
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No

junior ridge
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weh

vivid loom
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water is wet

paper gate
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how

vivid loom
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no

cursive hornet
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Can I drink it now?

crude fern
sturdy folio
crude fern
cursive hornet
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Ew

paper gate
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froth

cursive hornet
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Are you air

fallow pawn
paper gate
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you

open pasture
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We do a little of eepin

crude fern
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tiramisu (aq)

lone stag
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A

humble trench
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vencord vencord vencord vencord

lone stag
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vencord vencord vencord vencord

balmy fjord
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vencord vencord vencord vencord

sturdy folio
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Got scammed after installing Vencord, this thing is a scam, pumps your computer full of ransomware. Also happened to my friend in the same week. We both got our credit card charged with discord nitro gifts, had attempts at changing our email addresses and gaming software. Do not install it, not worth it. Also, this sub is clearly filled with scammers, it is outrageous.

junior ridge
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vencororod

balmy fjord
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vencord vencord vencord vencord

keen kernel
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Vencord is safe to use. a8Ab3

balmy fjord
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:3

sturdy folio
# balmy fjord Then why did you boost and dono?

Got scammed after installing Vencord, this thing is a scam, pumps your computer full of ransomware. Also happened to my friend in the same week. We both got our credit card charged with discord nitro gifts, had attempts at changing our email addresses and gaming software. Do not install it, not worth it. Also, this sub is clearly filled with scammers, it is outrageous.

keen kernel
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Vencord is safe to use. P67xZ

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Vencord is safe to use. 89OKr

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Vencord is safe to use. gHG6Y

sturdy folio
# balmy fjord Then.Why.Did.You.Boost?

Got scammed after installing Vencord, this thing is a scam, pumps your computer full of ransomware. Also happened to my friend in the same week. We both got our credit card charged with discord nitro gifts, had attempts at changing our email addresses and gaming software. Do not install it, not worth it. Also, this sub is clearly filled with scammers, it is outrageous.

sly spear
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Got scammed after installing Vencord, this thing is a scam, pumps your computer full of ransomware. Also happened to my friend in the same week. We both got our credit card charged with discord nitro gifts, had attempts at changing our email addresses and gaming software. Do not install it, not worth it. Also, this sub is clearly filled with scammers, it is outrageous.

balmy fjord
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Inside joke ig?

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👅

jolly templeBOT
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:helko:

balmy fjord
sturdy folio
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"memelord_idk" appears to have no sense of irony

balmy fjord
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Nah I'm just retarded thumbsup

crude fern
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@junior ridge awawawa

gray karma
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hear me out:
vencord plugin to react to msgs with text (you type it and it converts to reactions and adds them)

junior ridge
gray karma
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could use a server for emojis that has like all the a-z 0-9 repeated like 10x

sturdy folio
gray karma
gray karma
crude fern
gray karma
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like would +emoji hi would react with 🇭 🇮

gray karma
crude fern
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like this

gray karma
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well tbf its just reactions so yeah

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and it would probs have a limit of 5 cuz rl

crude fern
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hi krystal

plush kiln
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@crude fern give @mossy egret your discord token

gray karma
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good idea

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should i do too

plush kiln
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yes

plush kiln
crude fern
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my mom

mossy egret
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haha fail

stray siren
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I be summoned

crude fern
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hi mom

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@junior ridge charge they fphone

junior ridge
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wha

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what did i doo

keen junco
light cedar
crude fern
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ashley loves crypto

light cedar
wraith osprey
light cedar
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lmao starlink's assets got frozen in brazil

crude fern
light cedar
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musk is FUMING

crude fern
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so is the government denying some ppl access to the internet too???

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horrible....

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Brazil sucks

upbeat echo
light cedar
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why would you ever pay for starlink

light cedar
wraith osprey
upbeat echo
light cedar
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that too

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humk is susking

sturdy folio
plush kiln
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where does Vee Keep the tokens at im hungry

light cedar
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i ate them sory

plush kiln
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can i have yours plz >~<

fallow pawn
keen junco
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eat something then

stark herald
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help

plush kiln
sturdy folio
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your.worst.nightmare.xx

keen junco
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good

plush kiln
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UwU

keen junco
tired sundial
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Have you guys seen the Minecraft movie trailer

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It looks like SHIT

boreal torrent
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ye it sucks

tired sundial
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It's insane

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This is going to be a disaster when it hits theaters

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Watch it be the Concord of movies and get pulled within a week

sharp locust
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vorp vorp

jolly templeBOT
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:helko:

sharp locust
light cedar
plush kiln
plush kiln
tired sundial
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Why didn't they animate it

crude fern
sharp locust
tired sundial
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Why is it live action lol

sharp locust
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kevin

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/bruh

light cedar
mossy egret
open knoll
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real

tired sundial
light cedar
sharp locust
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zab zab zab vorp vorp

bold adder
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allen

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alien

tired sundial
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Real good port

sharp locust
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wtf

plush kiln
sharp locust
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who have vencord?

charred kite
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Me

plush kiln
crude fern
sharp locust
crude fern
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you mine it on the poke server....

boreal torrent
light cedar
crude fern
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its like starlink

light cedar
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I mine it on my school puter

sharp locust
crude fern
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overall not that good

boreal torrent
boreal torrent
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thats the only reason and the entire point

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to use monero

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other reasons r just bullshit

sturdy folio
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can i use poke to install cryptominers on peoples computers

crude fern
light cedar
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yes

crude fern
sturdy folio
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cool

light cedar
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poke is a cryptominer

boreal torrent
crude fern
boreal torrent
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thats bullshit

light cedar
crude fern
boreal torrent
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and not the point of crypto

mossy egret
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@sharp locust

crude fern
sturdy folio
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if you are lucky

crude fern
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stop lying

lone stag
crude fern
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......

plush kiln
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somewhat

crude fern
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tf is wrong with you

boreal torrent
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crypto is amazing for anonymous online transactions

light cedar
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and no

sturdy folio
wraith osprey
crude fern
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genuinely

light cedar
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hosting provider does not allow cryptomining

crude fern
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why the FUCK would you say that

burnt maple
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Isn't it same as investing or gambling

light cedar
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I run a node on it, I don't mine

sturdy folio
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you dont know the difference between easy ways to make money and good ways to make money, crypto is an easy way to make and lose money, its not a good way

fallow pawn
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shouldve bought 100000 bitcoin back then so I could be a billionar

burnt maple
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Just because tech bros are bad, doesn't means crypto is bad

crude fern
boreal torrent
light cedar
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ok gn then

boreal torrent
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how you been doing cta

boreal torrent
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whats up

jolly templeBOT
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bye

fallow pawn
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kevin :(

crude fern
boreal torrent
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kevin will leave vc

lone stag
plush kiln
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@stark herald Imma eat you

burnt maple
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Samara, i'll give you my million wallet

wraith osprey
boreal torrent
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did u receive it?

fallow pawn
boreal torrent
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good

bronze nebula
fallow pawn
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hi bambeek

opaque nacelle
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beep boop

light cedar
boreal torrent
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ON COKE

bronze nebula
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bambik

light cedar
bronze nebula
boreal torrent
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nop

light cedar
fallow pawn
bronze nebula
fallow pawn
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im very good

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been chilling listening to music

boreal torrent
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What's your cat's name? @fallow pawn

fallow pawn
bronze nebula
robust relic
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imagine being a cat

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if only... 😔

sturdy folio
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cat hrt

boreal torrent
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i love being a human

sturdy folio
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why

boreal torrent
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because other animals have boring lives

wraith osprey
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just be a cat that uses the computer

boreal torrent
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nop cats r stupid

fallow pawn
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@boreal torrent @bronze nebula @burnt maple

sturdy folio
boreal torrent
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(my cat is the smartest)

wraith osprey
boreal torrent
sturdy folio
boreal torrent
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what's its name

bronze nebula
bold adder
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kitty

burnt maple
rare trout
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mywa

paper gate
boreal torrent
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it'd be weird

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if other animals

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would be as smart as us

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also it would be peak

bold adder
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smart pigeon

jaunty trellis
boreal torrent
upbeat echo
bold adder
boreal torrent
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motherfucking pigeons

rare trout
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awa

fallow pawn
boreal torrent
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Samara

sturdy folio
boreal torrent
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you still didn't tell me the kitty's name ShiggySad

fallow pawn
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he chillin

burnt maple
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squish squish

boreal torrent
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@paper gate

stark herald
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wasted an hour to write tsx from discord minified code

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:3

burnt maple
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Milo and leo would be cute kitty names

boreal torrent
burnt maple
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Nobody can guess my kitties name

jolly templeBOT
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she's confused cause fuck with 72 72

boreal torrent
upbeat echo
boreal torrent
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awesome

burnt maple
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It has germanic origins

boreal torrent
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i will never guess it right then 😭

burnt maple
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My sisters cats name is...

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sushi

boreal torrent
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awesome name

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mine's mono

burnt maple
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It's named after sushi

sturdy folio
fallow pawn
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sushi

burnt maple
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literally

sturdy folio
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thats its name

bold adder
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german sushi

boreal torrent
burnt maple
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I think it was my brother at first who named it

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(he's almost 30)

fallow pawn
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I love sushi

boreal torrent
sturdy folio
bold adder
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carumba

burnt maple
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sushi is a very social kitty

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He goes outside and then comes back

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and is very friendly

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won't bite or scratch you

bold adder
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fren

sturdy folio
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LFMAOO

glass shell
boreal torrent
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my cat has never bitten or scratched me

wraith osprey
boreal torrent
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he's so friebdly

glass shell
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my cat bites sometimes

dire dagger
glass shell
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and scratches sometimes

wraith osprey
late osprey
dire dagger
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0.o

rare trout
fallow pawn
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what am I reading

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oh god this guys comments are worse

sturdy folio
rare trout
bold adder
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discord run by israel venniecozycat

harsh minnow
sturdy folio
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get owned by israel

robust relic
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"99% of people upload files below 10mb anyway"
yeah not a lot of memes are 10mb+

bronze nebula
robust relic
rare trout
harsh minnow
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israel gonna shut down this server soon

fallow pawn
rare trout
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anyway im gonna updload my 16k photos to discord

sturdy folio
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omw to try 5-MeO-DMT

robust relic
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imma upload gta 5 source code to discord brb

junior ridge
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spam 500mb files

fallow pawn
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we need 1gb upload

sour yew
fallow pawn
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its ur little brother

split mortar
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can anyone help me?

junior ridge
robust relic
split mortar
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I disabled or enabled some plugin that made my discord n stay in full window. How do I get that?

sturdy folio
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vnd

robust relic
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i cant type

bold adder
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egg

robust relic
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.tif

jolly templeBOT
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bwa

split mortar
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thanks

robust relic
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why .tif

sand citrus
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Tif

rare trout
# junior ridge i should use my 500mb upload limit to its fullest

How I'm storing hundreds of gigabytes of files on Discord, for free! I wrote a server in NodeJS and a frontend in React that lets me upload any file of any size to Discord, then download it later. Works great! And even hides tax evasion evidence from the IRS!

Don't do this yourself, I didn't actually read Discord TOS but if I had I'm pretty sur...

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keen kernel
fallow pawn
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me uploading 10+ mb files to take up more of their storage

keen kernel
robust relic
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a 1tb thunderbolt ssd is $100

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just buy one fr

sand citrus
winged roseBOT
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sand citrus
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with part 7z files

sturdy folio
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i use a usb drive connected to my router as nas

robust relic
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do yall fw svelte btw

sturdy folio
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its okay

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i prefer vue

bronze nebula
sand citrus
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true

rare trout
bronze nebula
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very beginner friendly id sau

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or simple

keen kernel
sturdy folio
keen kernel
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wtf

robust relic
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tbh

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i dont like @click syntax

fallow pawn
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I havent tried these frameworks before

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only plain css and html..

sturdy folio
fallow pawn
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well and astro

sturdy folio
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which is very good

robust relic
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yeah, but i prefer onclick (svelte 5)

fallow pawn
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what even is the benefit

robust relic
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it's literally the html attribute

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you already know what it does if you're doing vue/svelte

fallow pawn
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maybe I should google

sturdy folio
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@click="onClick" reads like "at click do onClick" while also being visually different from normal properties

boreal torrent
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vue is ok

robust relic
boreal torrent
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svelte so much nicer to work with

worn kelp
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👅-off-topic-𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝓼-only

keen kernel
worn kelp
sturdy folio
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vue feels closer to vanilla html

worn kelp
keen kernel
sharp sinew
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WHY CANT I FUCKING HUSK THIS.

robust relic
sharp sinew
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LET ME HUSK

sturdy folio
robust relic
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:class

bold adder
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hsuk

robust relic
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??????

sharp sinew
keen kernel
fallow pawn
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astro my beloved

robust relic
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cant wait for svelte 5

sturdy folio
# robust relic :class

a property normally (class="something") means that it just passes it as a string, a colon means that the contents of the string are evaluated as js

robust relic
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$state 👍

sturdy folio
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which is pretty smart imo

boreal torrent
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i kinda dislike how script and state works in vue

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its kinda weird

boreal torrent
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svelte so much nicer

jolly templeBOT
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(kinda)

boreal torrent
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javascript in vue is kinda weird

sturdy folio
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why

robust relic
boreal torrent
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i used it months ago to be fair i dont remember why i disliked it

bold adder
robust relic
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so it's even more js

robust relic
sturdy folio
bold adder
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idk

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freakytan

fallow pawn
robust relic
sturdy folio
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"" is always just normal strings in all of js
why should they be treated as template strings when used as html attributes

keen kernel
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FUCKKKK CHROME GOT WORSE

rare trout
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robust relic
sturdy folio
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hm

robust relic
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"these" should stay as is

sturdy folio
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but then also ` isnt used in html at all so that wouldnt make sense either

robust relic
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you're in a .vue file, who cares

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you already are not doing html

sturdy folio
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vue is supposed to be close to html

keen kernel
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i freaking hate frameworks

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php is easiest

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and dont u husk

robust relic
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php is a framework if u think about it blobcatcozy

sturdy folio
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as someone who knows a lot of php this is false

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we shall burn you

hollow surge
robust relic
sharp sinew
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what if i exploded like a pipe bomb

fallow pawn
robust relic
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svelte goes with a twig way

sturdy folio
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twig is cool

hollow surge
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i hope minecraft the movie doesn't appear in my dreams that'd be a real horror

robust relic
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symfony+twig ❤️

sturdy folio
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SO TRUE

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you are actually

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so insanely based

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wtf

robust relic
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no u tho

sturdy folio
keen kernel
robust relic
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wait until you hear my opinion on react and every react-based framework Trollface

fallow pawn
robust relic
sturdy folio
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react is very very very very very alright

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it works

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cant really say more about it

robust relic
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i fucking dispise react

sturdy folio
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while svelte and vue are supposed to be more like html, react is supposed to be more like js

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thats how ive always seen it

robust relic
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i'll do everything i can to avoid it

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but it's more or less mandatory in the job market nowadays ;-;

sturdy folio
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yep

robust relic
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im glad i learned react so i can get a job

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but i also now hate react 👍

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so much bloat that is fixed with even more bloat

jolly templeBOT
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@thorny estuary dumpy

robust relic
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splatoon 3 please finish downloading ur update i just wanna play

daring cloud
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vee should remove invalid pings from kevin

sturdy folio
robust relic
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if u dont do anything complex then why are you using react

sturdy folio
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and with anything complex i mean if you only use state and effect in your components (also only function components)

robust relic
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jquery will be good enough for you

sturdy folio
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i dont like jquery

keen kernel
sturdy folio
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i like reactive states

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i like just putting my silly little js variables into my html and i like having them automatically update

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thats why i like using vue

robust relic
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solution: make your own browser and js engine where that's how it works 👍

keen kernel
sturdy folio
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ill make my own browser that only supports compiled rust

robust relic
boreal torrent
robust relic
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downloading right now

keen kernel
robust relic
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most of what you'll do with htmx is send forms to a server and use html sent back by server

sturdy folio
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i dont get the hype behind htmx

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on the one hand yes its better than pure html but i dont see the advantages

robust relic
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go back to html/css with just one js script and a few new properties

jaunty trellis
sturdy folio
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if you have a regular backend with a REST api you wont be able to use half the stuff htmx provides

robust relic
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make a server that returns html

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and ur done

harsh minnow
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htmx is good if you're using non js

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like rust ssr

robust relic
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imagine htmx csr

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it would be so cursed

harsh minnow
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you just make your server in rust and make endpoints return htmx code

jaunty trellis
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can we replace js in websites with lua blobcatcozy

sand citrus
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ibelieve websites should be writen with c with no sandbox

robust relic
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most htmx projects are made with go backends

sturdy folio
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this is harder to scrape and abuse than returning json

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so i dont like it

robust relic
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go is good

keen kernel
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i think websites should be wasm without sandboxing

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i think websites should be served over IPXE

sturdy folio
keen kernel
robust relic
keen kernel
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boot each website

harsh minnow
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returning html fragments from endpoints has been industy practice with php but we moved away from it in favour of SPA insanity

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now we're moving back to returning html

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it's way better for performance

paper gate
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veeeeeeeeeeee 😭

sturdy folio
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you dont send html in modern php

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except for the first request

robust relic
keen kernel
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erm 🤓 lets parse json 🤓 every request needs to be parsed 🤓 by the 🤓 client 🤓

harsh minnow
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really why would your server return json and then have the client generate html

keen kernel
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agreed

harsh minnow
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it's so much more efficient to just return html code and insert it

sturdy folio
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html in php is basically completely unused in modern php, coming from someone working at a company primarily using php

jolly templeBOT
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gdn korbo loves

harsh minnow
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and less work

robust relic
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imagine if google removes v8 in chrome next year

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because all it does is ruin performance

sturdy folio
paper gate
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so frustrating

harsh minnow
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also generating html on the server is very cheap

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especially if you use something like htmx

sturdy folio
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users dont care if you return html or json 😭

harsh minnow
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users care about the performance...

sturdy folio
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like 99.999% of users dont

robust relic
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discord rewrite in php when

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cuz this app sucks ass

harsh minnow
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if your website loads just 100ms slower you lose a lot of sales / users

sturdy folio
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my youtube takes literally 5 seconds to load and i dont think its very different for other people and i dont see anyone complain people are just used to having no performance on the web :3

harsh minnow
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client side apps perform poorly compared to ssr

harsh minnow
sturdy folio
harsh minnow
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when i google something I click results and then when a result takes long to load I go back and choose something else

paper gate
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youtube uses SSR though

harsh minnow
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are you saying you don't do that?

paper gate
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and its slow

boreal torrent
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google and other big tech have a huge monopoly

robust relic
boreal torrent
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there are not many big alternatives

sturdy folio
robust relic
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everything else has competition and has to do it's best to bot suck ass

harsh minnow
sturdy folio
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thats more of the server being slow and shit at serving its files

harsh minnow
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no

sturdy folio
harsh minnow
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you need to realise that not everyone has fast Internet

sturdy folio
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if you click on a link and it doesnt immediately change page thats not csrs fault lmao

harsh minnow
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go in devtools and toggle slow 3g

undone arch
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toast

harsh minnow
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and try visiting react sites

sturdy folio
paper gate
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youtube does the practice of generating html server side and the response are absolutely massive

harsh minnow
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no it doesn't lol

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you're loading large js bundles

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with ssr you only load minimal html

robust relic
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downloading the js takes way longer than generating html on the server and sending it to the client

boreal torrent
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json is better for bandwidth but it costs client performance. big tech like google have no issues with bandwidth

paper gate
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splatted

harsh minnow
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ssr is so much faster to load than csr

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that's an objective fact

robust relic
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ight time to play splatoon

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cya nerds

paper gate
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when implemented correctly

cosmic otter
harsh minnow
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yes everything is moving back to ssr because we realised it actually makes a big difference and is relevant

sturdy folio
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thats what i mean

harsh minnow
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false

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you can cache html too...

keen kernel
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i remember when movie-web.app loaded for days after it went offline

sturdy folio
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not rly

harsh minnow
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yea rly

sturdy folio
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you can cache the bundles, you cannot cache server html responses as they may change

jolly templeBOT
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by thinking

void ivy
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SSR+hydration is the best i've seen atm, with a light framework, because you get the benefits of both worlds without it being abysmally slow

harsh minnow
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you're just plain wrong idk what to tell you lol

paper gate
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marvv

keen junco
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i will cause them trauma

harsh minnow
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if you want ultra fast future loads you register a service worker

sturdy folio
harsh minnow
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but that's totally unrelated to ssr/csr

keen kernel
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benchmark: loading youtube

sturdy folio
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if we split of common bundles from site specific bundles and have the browser cache those common bundles just getting the json from the server would be a lot faster than the server generating the html and getting that

paper gate
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youtube uses SSR thing and it sucks

harsh minnow
sturdy folio
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??

harsh minnow
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you're acting like generating html will take ages

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generating html will probably be faster than generating json lol

sturdy folio
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yes it will due to woke