🧊-off-topic-iceman-only

[twin linden]

but well

[next warren]

true

[twin linden]

I deactivated it

[dull anvil]

Same

[dense phoenix]

im on phone and disabled that

[next warren]

Whyd you disable that???

[twin linden]

me too

[fallow pawn]

btw I dont have auto uppercase on my phone

[twin linden]

bc there’s no point on having auto uppercase

[fallow pawn]

rather I just have instinct to capitilize sentences there

for some reason

[dusty goblet]

@dense phoenix meow

[fallow pawn]

on pc idrc

[vocal vault]

Trans visibility day
You are all finally visible

[cerulean lance]

only time i capitilize my sentences correctly is when im pr'ing to someone i dont know

[dusty goblet]

Yamyam

[vocal vault]

I like that song.

[dull anvil]

Yamyam

[vocal vault]

I like that song.

[vocal vault]

I like that song.

[next warren]

you dont

[fallow pawn]

idk that song

[dense phoenix]

haii ur cute

[twin linden]

🅱️

[cerulean lance]

@vocal vault your name means cannibalism

[vocal vault]

Huhhh

[paper gate]

@fallow pawn meow

[vocal vault]

America ya!

[next warren]

@paper gateyour name means cannibalism

[paper gate]

yamyam

[vocal vault]

Frieren is slightly based

[vocal vault]

I like that song.

[vocal vault]

Aliucord is slowly dying

I will cry

[paper gate]

never

[vocal vault]

Well not dying but just lagging behind

FUCK REAXT NATJVE AHHH

aliucord, my queen, you are divinely guided and protected at all times.

[dusty goblet]

Ur cuter

[fresh ledge]

Real

[fallow pawn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/758678605253050389/1180929309142171778/Media_231202_033358.gif?=

[fresh ledge]

Zeeter make a minky plugin. It replaces all profiles pictures, icons and text with minky

[paper gate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/758678605253050389/1180929309142171778/Media_231202_033358.gif?=

[cerulean lance]

why are my drivers nsfw

[mossy egret]

basically this #1032200195582197831 message but for minky

[fresh ledge]

Guh

[errant chasm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/758678605253050389/1180929309142171778/Media_231202_033358.gif?=

[fresh ledge]

A 1 minute timeout feels so long

[small bramble]

can you send a . for me

[fresh ledge]

Why

[small bramble]

:3

[fresh ledge]

.

Now whar

[small bramble]

was the rule removed

[fresh ledge]

Hopefully yes I don't want another 1 min timeout 😭

[outer summit]

how do i fix my msg logger bro

[fresh ledge]

Eat it

[outer summit]

its jst stopped working

?

[fresh ledge]

#🏥-vencord-support-🏥

[outer summit]

i did

[fallow pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/neko-atsume-cat-kitty-neko-atsume-vr-speech-bubble-gif-25743386

[outer summit]

no auto msg came up

[open pasture]

Ask it to work politely

[mossy egret]

real

[outer summit]

yeah it didnt work

[cinder jacinth]

fun fact: every 60 seconds, a minute passes

[noble quest]

rate the new pfp

[next warren]

4

[steep spire]

who is butt

[jaunty trellis]

[dusty goblet]

Meow

[jaunty trellis]

we have a chem lab group project thingy

[dusty goblet]

Wha

[jaunty trellis]

and the most tired person in the group wrote down the stuff

[dusty goblet]

Doesn't seem like a good idea

[jaunty trellis]

and now there's a 7 minute gap in the thing 😭

[dusty goblet]

With all my marketing experience I can say that this won't throw a good image on you

[covert lodge]

maow

meow

mrrp meow 🐈

[bold wren]

this is awful guys

pack it up

[noble quest]

that font is awful

[bold wren]

filtered

[unborn magnet]

this is the part where you fake the data inbetween >:)

[harsh minnow]

wow yeah that really is an awful font

[errant chasm]

[harsh minnow]

now that you point it out

[bold wren]

double filtered

[harsh minnow]

❤️

would you like a job at our company?

[bold wren]

hell naw

they will never make me a wage cuk

[errant chasm]

[cedar yarrow]

vencord company

[harsh minnow]

you're hired <3

[errant chasm]

[bold wren]

i quit

[fallow pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-guilty-gear-bridget-guilty-gear-shiggy-wiggy-gif-26441575

[errant chasm]

[next warren]

buh byee

[noble quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/768802917918048287/1087785874688852098/Untitled-1-cats-test.gif

[dusty goblet]

So eepy

[upbeat dawn]

This is so funny

Who changes the pfp

[bold wren]

is your whole profile ironic

[harsh minnow]

u in a few years

:3

[bold wren]

nuh uh

[pine zephyr]

I can't believe they

[steep spire]

WOOF

[pine zephyr]

I will get this keyboard

someone find this keyboard for me

[dusty goblet]

Tfym the wifi speed got 10x faster

[pine zephyr]

on amazon

[steep spire]

I have a similar one

[dusty goblet]

That's cool

I don't have ti worry about HD videos avymore

[dense phoenix]

hey that's my keyboard

[harsh minnow]

so based

[pine zephyr]

besad

[dusty goblet]

Told u ur cute

[steep spire]

broooo thats like

crazyh

[pine zephyr]

ban zet

[steep spire]

I was crazy once

[harsh minnow]

which one will it be

[dusty goblet]

I should get a kb too

[pine zephyr]

nvm ban the peach bro

[dusty goblet]

Who?

[pine zephyr]

peach

[torpid goblet]

the void spreads

[dusty goblet]

I want

[open pasture]

that goes hard

[dusty goblet]

All I have is black lmao

[pine zephyr]

@noble quest what's this name

[harsh minnow]

CUTE

[dusty goblet]

I remember

[pine zephyr]

post pictures

[noble quest]

hypixel skyblock reference

[pine zephyr]

stop minecrafting

[noble quest]

id shorten it to sadan, but the name is taken on discord

[pine zephyr]

start by making ven craft server

[harsh minnow]

the what

[noble quest]

i would, but hosting is expensive and i havent figured out how to reverse proxy minecraft yet

[pine zephyr]

just

[noble quest]

plus my internet can be unstable

[dusty goblet]

Hey @burnt maple as I see you're currently an unpaid amazon worker I'd like to propose you to join our company with the insane salary of USD 0.01 per year which is an infinite increase to your previous job so it helps our image a lot if worded properly

[pine zephyr]

stop using ur pc

and host vencraft server

on it

[harsh minnow]

can i apply

[open pasture]

vencord will never be peak until the mc server drops

[dusty goblet]

Your position is above mine how would I hire you

[noble quest]

i have a server pc with good(ish) specs

[harsh minnow]

welll it would still be higher salary than my current job

[open pasture]

it could be higher

with a little evasion

[errant chasm]

Im still not sure what im supposed to do

[open pasture]

you assist

[errant chasm]

[dusty goblet]

Your current job comes with an extortion scheme that gets you a big cut of the money of the shareholders

Wait

That was confidential

[errant chasm]

im supposed to assist elvy but does elvy even do anything

[dusty goblet]

FUCK

[errant chasm]

[prime kraken]

girl at this point I think it's fair to call vencord a job 😭

[noble quest]

do pids normally get this high?

https://host.sadanslargehole.com/u/Geh1tR.png

[dull anvil]

the secret out

[next warren]

the secret out

[dusty goblet]

Yes I just leaked company secrets

[errant chasm]

Oo can i do that too

[prime kraken]

Yes look up bug inflation for more info

[errant chasm]

[open pasture]

Vencord LLC

[dusty goblet]

Yes

[errant chasm]

yay

[noble quest]

[errant chasm]

I will break nda agreement immediately

[open pasture]

breaking NDA leads to immediate execution

[dusty goblet]

wrong

[next warren]

@sand citrus

[open pasture]

awesne, real

[golden marlin]

CEO of Lies and False Undelivered promises here

fark

[dusty goblet]

Marketing statistics show that torture is a lot more efficient than execution when it comes to such things

[nocturne bough]

DONT SAY LOL IT WASNT FUNNY AT ALL

[open pasture]

Valid and true

[dusty goblet]

We have a wide range of 2583 test subjects that we base our data on

[golden marlin]

omg vencord just crashed

[errant chasm]

womp womp

[open pasture]

vencord would never crash

stop spreading misinformation

[errant chasm]

real

[golden marlin]

Except it did

[errant chasm]

except you're spreading misinformation

[open pasture]

you're definitely a betterdiscord fed

get em

[errant chasm]

When are we gonna hire security

[open pasture]

true

[noble quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1202218716654485506/1208413232126103623/FyuTiOkWcAIXna_-1.gif

[golden marlin]

Vesktop.bin quit unexpectedly 😭

[dusty goblet]

@candid blaze

[open pasture]

Hey cute people in my phone, I could NOT use starlink as my day to day

[next warren]

why would you use it

[dusty goblet]

WAIT I SWEAR YOU WERE SECURITY DEPARTMENT JUST NOW

[open pasture]

I’m going on a cruise and the wifi package is starlink

[next warren]

:(

[open pasture]

they retired, we have no security now

[next warren]

cruise is awesome

looks like you're gonna be offline though

[open pasture]

why does it say 1045

[golden marlin]

their own safety was compromised and they were taken to the interrogation room where cute anime girls tortured them with cute kitties licking their foreheads

[open pasture]

[errant chasm]

Can we get this person escorted out

[golden marlin]

Just stating the fax

[errant chasm]

@harsh minnow hire new security

[harsh minnow]

you're promoted to security officer

[open pasture]

let's go

huge promotion

[golden marlin]

omggg I'm so happy for you bestie

[errant chasm]

[open pasture]

🔥

[errant chasm]

My first action will be to ban @golden marlin from this building

[golden marlin]

I'm a valuable customer who pays no money

You can't just ban me

[errant chasm]

Im sorry we will use ai to replace you

[golden marlin]

Noooo 😭 😭 😭

[pine zephyr]

ok

[golden marlin]

I've never heard a worse insult

[errant chasm]

[open pasture]

[harsh minnow]

@paper gate

[dense phoenix]

mantika has 3 million karma

[fallow pawn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1015060231060983891/1212567726204129291/IMG_3242.gif

[next warren]

horror

[nocturne bough]

I only have 17k

I am not even fat

At least not much

[errant chasm]

HELLO you use discord AND reddit

[fallow pawn]

I have 15k karma

[golden marlin]

Yes! Yes!!!! Yes!!!!!!! Blow up Vennie and rejoice!

[pine zephyr]

ok we are using full resource for vencraft server

[errant chasm]

[fallow pawn]

vencraft

[nocturne bough]

My most of the karma comes from one software gore post

[urban elk]

hai

[errant chasm]

Hardwaregore my beloved

[nocturne bough]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/s/nBl6YXYHCx

Nvm programmerhumor

[lapis lava]

when i used to have reddit
my most upvoted post was on shitmomgroupsay

[urban elk]

I remember this LFNAOA

[urban elk]

what the fuc

[lapis lava]

cf tunnels

aren't mc servers tcp?

[unborn magnet]

they are UDP

[lapis lava]

ugh

[unborn magnet]

afaik

[lapis lava]

or do what i did

[unborn magnet]

theres a neat mod that fixes it though

[lapis lava]

and expose your router

[unborn magnet]

modflared

[lapis lava]

oo

nice

[unborn magnet]

its client sided though

[nocturne bough]

I think nop

[noble quest]

ive looked into some proxies, but none of them seem to work that well

[unborn magnet]

but assuming you can get the people who want to play to install it, it works great

[nocturne bough]

Most games are udp but minecraft is tcp

[unborn magnet]

really?

[noble quest]

plus i dont have anyone to test

[lapis lava]

java is tcp

shitrock is udp

[unborn magnet]

alright then sorry lmao

[lapis lava]

good to know

[unborn magnet]

My recommendation of modflared still stands though

[somber leaf]

why not quik or whatever the fuck its called

[lapis lava]

i can now safely expose my mc server running on rpi

[dense phoenix]

blow up your house it closes vim

[lapis lava]

sunnie
type something important in vim
then :q!

[dense phoenix]

nuh uh

im not installing vim

[lapis lava]

it comes by default with git bash

[errant chasm]

[dense phoenix]

wait shit ur right

[noble quest]

ive moved from vscode to nvim for most of my coding and its really nice

[bold wren]

you have vim dipshit it comes with git bash

[lapis lava]

only found out because of me committing over cmd and it opening him

[noble quest]

there are a few bad things with it tho

[lapis lava]

vim*

[bold wren]

what's

[noble quest]

the integrated terminal sucks

[dense phoenix]

then dont use it

[bold wren]

huh what integrated terminal

i just open another terminal on the side

[lapis lava]

wondering if android dev is possible in nvim

[noble quest]

yea, i dont

but it would be nice if it was good

[unborn spoke]

Didn't Quic use UDP?

[bold wren]

literally what integrated terminal

[dense phoenix]

does it not give an option to use the native shell

[bold wren]

do you use some bloat thing like nvchad

[dense phoenix]

it does iirc even on windows

[noble quest]

no

i started from scratch

[bold wren]

i'm confused

[upbeat dawn]

lmao what every time i come back to the servers the server pfp changes lmao

[wise anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-oshi-no-ko-jamming-anime-dance-anime-dancing-gif-16955890367095468588

[somber leaf]

yeah

[wise anvil]

Good morning

[lapis lava]

we are now vencorp

[noble quest]

whatever this is

[candid blaze]

configuring neovim

[noble quest]

https://host.sadanslargehole.com/u/c2jm3K.png

[candid blaze]

those borders are annoyingg

[bold wren]

i just

[somber leaf]

zig fan spoted

[dense phoenix]

i dont code enough to bother learning vim tbh

[lapis lava]

hot take
gnu nano > vim

[lapis lava]

i just got too used to jetbrains

[noble quest]

oops

[bold wren]

ok girl

using f2 in neovim feels criminal

i have it set to leader r

[viral cape]

I use nano BTW

[noble quest]

im vscode keymap brained

[lapis lava]

W

btw congrats on becoming an intern

[bold wren]

can u show what u mean w integrated terminal

[lapis lava]

vscode sooooo bad

[dusty goblet]

Same

[noble quest]

keymaps good tho

[dense phoenix]

mind if i ask why

[noble quest]

also i still use vscode for remote servers

[dense phoenix]

like does it actually do stuff wrong or hurr durr chromium bad

[noble quest]

ssh plugin soo good

[somber leaf]

they use jetbrains

[bold wren]

i need a new desktop wallpaper

[lapis lava]

yes

[noble quest]

nvim is a lot faster compared to vscode

[lapis lava]

that's like the one thing I like it for

[vale peak]

guys i want to add my own plugins to vencord but im unsure how im supposed to do it since i see the plugins are all in typescript

[noble quest]

learn ts first

[dense phoenix]

https://github.com/Vendicated/Vencord/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md has good info

[lapis lava]

jetbrains IDEs feel snappier
and i prefer jetbrains debug tools, for example webstorm's debug webserver actually works unlike vscode one where you have to get a plugin that works half of the time

typescript is js with types

[vale peak]

kk

[noble quest]

vscode debug has nice debug tools from my experience

[dense phoenix]

ok thats fair

i never use the debug tools and probably should

[somber leaf]

my only experience with jetbrains IDEs was goland and it was cool but not worth the money

[candid blaze]

Looks nice

[lapis lava]

i pirate them

[noble quest]

ahhhh why do remotes always break

https://host.sadanslargehole.com/u/RRCsHC.png

[somber leaf]

do you have downloads for mac os?

[viral cape]

take a look at existing plugins
also learn some typescript. js knowledge carries over too

[lapis lava]

idk

[dusty goblet]

I never learned ts or js

[lapis lava]

remote support so bad in vscodium

[harsh minnow]

imagine paying for it

[winter girder]

um

[harsh minnow]

they give me free license

[somber leaf]

dont

[lapis lava]

that's nice
but im not eligible yet, that's why i pirate

[dusty goblet]

Same

[viral cape]

I love pretending to know what I am doing

[noble quest]

no, i know the issue, but yea

[somber leaf]

because youre a FOSS dev lol

[harsh minnow]

if you're a student, or maintainer of an active open source project, you are eligible for free jetbrains license

very cool of them

[dusty goblet]

I only ever learned py

[lapis lava]

yop

[harsh minnow]

the foss project doesn't even have to be big btw

[lapis lava]

i will make 10 github accounts

[harsh minnow]

just active

[noble quest]

wait, you get free jetbarins be being a student

[lapis lava]

make them contrib to vendroid

[harsh minnow]

yep

[lapis lava]

and poof i get free jetbrains

[noble quest]

ooh

i might try that

[somber leaf]

you get a free month when you first sign up

[winter girder]

yeah because who the fuck will pay $15.90 PER MONTH

FOR AN IDE

[lapis lava]

yes

[somber leaf]

make sure to add jetbrains IDE integrations into your project so you have to keep using jetbrains~

[harsh minnow]

many people

[lapis lava]

they're expensive as hell

[lapis lava]

(corporations)

[harsh minnow]

the same could be applied to any other app like adobe stuff for example

[strong orbit]

yo guys

[noble quest]

ive tried pirating them, but all the forms are in russian or chineese

[harsh minnow]

people who professionally use them, especially companies, pay for them

[viral cape]

why does jetbrains not make just 1 ide
How much specific stuff ia there in each IDE

[harsh minnow]

and jetbrains ides are really good value

[viral cape]

@harsh minnow would you pay for winrar

[lapis lava]

they made fleet

[harsh minnow]

it is just 1 IDE

[lapis lava]

ew winrar

use 7zip

i would rather use avast secure browser than winrar

[viral cape]

correct answer

[noble quest]

does 7zip make a gui for linux

[winter girder]

vee, can we talk about this here?

[lapis lava]

(avast force installed its secure browser)

[noble quest]

that would be very cool

[sour burrow]

is there a way to add fonts to discord using vencord?

[harsh minnow]

there is intellij community edition which is the free and open source base ide

and they have a lot of different versions that are all the base version plus proprietary plugins / additions to add more features, usually ides specific to each language

[unborn magnet]

afaik 7zip makes nothing for linux right?

[viral cape]

malware

[unborn magnet]

the linux version is 3rd party

[lapis lava]

don't you get free versions of jetbrains IDEs by using EAP

[somber leaf]

Their libs support linux but no GUI

[noble quest]

i dont think so

[viral cape]

see #🎨-css-snippets pins
also this is not #🏥-vencord-support-🏥

[unborn magnet]

yeah whoops

[harsh minnow]

there is 7zip gui but idk if it's official and it's incredibly ugly

[void ivy]

shouldnt use 7zip anymore on windows tho

[harsh minnow]

well 7zip in general is ugly

[viral cape]

Where

[somber leaf]

Its not offical, use KDE arc or whatever the fuck gnome uses if you need archive support

[unborn magnet]

7zip is still faster

[winter girder]

nanazip better

[unborn magnet]

from my experience

[void ivy]

use nanazip

[harsh minnow]

gnome uses file-roller

[void ivy]

it's a fork of 7-zip but

[harsh minnow]

it's decent enough

[void ivy]

actually good

[viral cape]

I use ark

sometimes

[noble quest]

@unborn magnet i sent the wrong screenshot

https://host.sadanslargehole.com/u/phVFzi.png

[winter girder]

this ^

[harsh minnow]

i mean latest windows has native support for 7z and stuff no?

[void ivy]

the dev of 7zip has said outright they will refuse to enable certain security features in their compilation step

[winter girder]

its not good at all

[harsh minnow]

i remember them adding support for a bunch of archives

[unborn magnet]

i thought you meant the fact that windows has built in archive support now

[somber leaf]

zip/rar not 7zip iirc

[viral cape]

yop

[void ivy]

it does now, but the archiving tools dont have the power of 7/nanazip

[dreamy vine]

does the vencord company lay off employees

[void ivy]

there's no good options for how to make it work

[viral cape]

Yes

[harsh minnow]

not yet

[lapis lava]

change vban to vlayoff

[noble quest]

sad

https://host.sadanslargehole.com/u/fs9nwH.png

[somber leaf]

whats special about nanazip or whatever?

[void ivy]

no im referring to the fact the 7zip dev refuses to enable basic compiler flags that add security

[dense phoenix]

no until they need to please the shareholders

then expect 30% layoffs

[open pasture]

https://fixupx.com/discord/status/1774493019644809281?s=46

[unborn magnet]

ah

[open pasture]

deleting discord

[viral cape]

what

[harsh minnow]

aa looks so out of place

[somber leaf]

Like what?

[viral cape]

Freaky

[noble quest]

can you unbox a shiggy

[dreamy vine]

hire me im a professional car analyst hacker (taxi driver)

[unborn magnet]

when are you adding AI to vencord

[somber leaf]

BRB gonna enable bounds checking in C

[harsh minnow]

hired

[dense phoenix]

its already there you just need to pay $20/month for access

[noble quest]

WHY IS WARNING A CHECKBOX NOW

[viral cape]

yes

[noble quest]

https://host.sadanslargehole.com/u/h4wUi2.png

[unborn magnet]

icic

great

[noble quest]

@frosty plaza WHY

[harsh minnow]

@upbeat summit is responsible for that

[void ivy]

iirc the memory safety checks like buffer overrunning and address sanitization

[winter girder]

there's no fucking way you made this @harsh minnow

[lapis lava]

@frosty plaza SO BAD

[winter girder]

bro got too bored

[void ivy]

he explicitly turns them off and refuses to use them

[dreamy vine]

LETS GOOO

[harsh minnow]

lewi and aagamer made this

[winter girder]

yall need a hobby bro 😭

[lapis lava]

this is arc manifesto

[harsh minnow]

it's not ready yet

[lapis lava]

speaking of which i got arc beta for windows
however
i cant use since im on windows 10

[void ivy]

i made it in like

4 hours

it wasnt that bad xd

[lapis lava]

(another excuse to use chrome)

[noble quest]

same lol

[void ivy]

aagamer did the scrolling stuff quicker

[noble quest]

never upgrading to win 11

[upbeat summit]

This is wild

[dreamy vine]

i have another friend who is a c++/c# computer science elitist (c for crackhead)

[harsh minnow]

that is their hobby

[upbeat summit]

VenGPT is still in pre-Alpha sir @harsh minnow

[somber leaf]

address sanitization comes at a memory performance impact which archive libs heavily rely on and isnt compatible with better tools like valgrind.

[unborn magnet]

how long ago did you apply?

[lapis lava]

a month ago ig?

[viral cape]

Microsoft Java

[dreamy vine]

oh hell nah

[lapis lava]

:dukedance:

[unborn magnet]

oki thanks :3

[lapis lava]

Fake nitro not working

Help??

(this is a joke)

So bad company

[glossy swallow]

where is this

[winter girder]

IntersectionObserverEntry 🔥

[glossy swallow]

lmao

[lapis lava]

They never answer support

[noble quest]

i thought microsoft java was just minecraft

[lapis lava]

@glossy swallow lead toad manager isnt real job

get real job

[lapis lava]

children know java because of minecraft :dukedance:

[void ivy]

@viral cape @somber leaf
nanazip:

• enables control flow guard checking
• marks the binaries as compatible with CET shadow stack
• has runtime handle checking
• disabled dynamic code generation to prevent malicious code
• blocks unexpected library loading
• has package integrity checking
• has eh continuation metadata (exception handler validation)
• has signed returns

[lime talon]

HOW

[glossy swallow]

git force pusher

[lime talon]

HMM I WONDER WHY MY LAPTOP IS RUNNING SLOWLY

[noble quest]

[errant chasm]

Yay its raining heavily outside right now

[lime talon]

HOW IS DISCORD RUNNING

[errant chasm]

Do i go outside

[viral cape]

Welcome to fucked up laptop department. Intel Corporation assumes no responsibility here.

[viral cape]

It isn't
It is just existing

[somber leaf]

None of this has relevance unless youre decoding explicitly malicious archives that exploit a existing bug/compromised system

[lime talon]

it's got an AMD cpu so you'd be right

[void ivy]

so, the CVEs that occur due to crafted archives are irrelevant?

when a lot of them would've been caught by the guards?

[small bramble]

nanazip!?
like
like
7zip!????? (japanese reference)

[void ivy]

such as buffer overruns, integer underflow issues, heap overflows, RCEs, ...

[small bramble]

do NOT husk me

[noble quest]

7 zip ,who needs 7 zip files
one is enough
smh kids these days

[void ivy]

(literally just reading off the CVEs page for 7zip due to memory issues because of the lack of guard compiler flags)

[noble quest]

too soon 😔

[errant chasm]

Now upgrade to wubuntu

[void ivy]

the guards exist for a reason

[somber leaf]

I would like to see a performance comparison between 7zip and nanazip

[errant chasm]

[void ivy]

i see no genuine difference

[winter girder]

hasn't wubuntu been exposed for stuff

[void ivy]

i benchmarked them both and if there's a genuine impact it is on the order of milliseconds

[lime talon]

I'M TYPING WITH IT IT'S FUNCTIONING

[void ivy]

hi cta

blep

[errant chasm]

No idea, wouldn't be surprised tho

[void ivy]

and if you genuinely care about this when you're trying to extract an archive then you are microbenchmarking just to microbenchmark, there is no real world performance impact where the safety guards end up harming the performance significantly

[lime talon]

it jumped to 2.7GHz as soon as i plugged it in

[void ivy]

just use the damn safety features

[winter girder]

it has, wubuntu was rebranded from linuxfx, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/15acjd6/psa_wubuntulinuxfxwindowsfx/

[cerulean lance]

@foggy fulcrum

[void ivy]

it's stupid to turn them off

sure!

[errant chasm]

[harsh minnow]

can i send u a friend request @burnt maple 👉👈

[errant chasm]

[small bramble]

time to make my own blazing fast (rust powered) (de)compression format

[harsh minnow]

🫷🫸🤞

why are they a different yellow

[errant chasm]

[errant chasm]

Horror

[harsh minnow]

maybe

[void ivy]

also nanazip will be getting a new ui soon

that'll be nice

same core but nicer looking everything

[desert goblet]

as ceo of the company, you’re all fired

i already work here

[errant chasm]

meow meow

[harsh minnow]

[errant chasm]

[desert goblet]

i’m sorry but i have to say it, your server pfp is every white woman worker ever

[lapis lava]

i forgot how fast windows 10 was
i love

[errant chasm]

Quite real

[harsh minnow]

please don't insult my appearance

[lapis lava]

i mean

shes right

[desert goblet]

is your name kare-

[lapis lava]

madeline are you doing lifetime timeout speedrun

[somber leaf]

Side tangent. But it pissed me off when people were freaking out about how "fast and quick" QOI was when it was released and how "apparently efficient" it was compared to PNG when literally everyone was comparing it to libPNG which sucks ass.

[winter girder]

i wanna speak to your manager

[cobalt portal]

[foggy fulcrum]

who awakened me

[fast steppe]

n

[desert goblet]

i AM the manager

[lapis lava]

<@&1093506400853950525> please

[open pasture]

i have scouted 3 children fit for the factory

[errant chasm]

[lapis lava]

never has manager role name fit so well

[lapis lava]

i miss colored blobs from vendetta

[errant chasm]

[cobalt portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1133119968662261883.webp?size=48

[desert goblet]

everybody go to https://madelinemaid.neocities.org/the-end-is-never

[lapis lava]

⠀

[odd wave]

no

[small bramble]

yeah
most speed comparisons in rust are braindead

[lapis lava]

stanley parable reference

[errant chasm]

THE LINE !!

[desert goblet]

do it, it’s worth it

[errant chasm]

It returns

[somber leaf]

QOI is just a primitive runlength based image format with a lookup table. Its nothing new or fancy

[harsh minnow]

ip logger

[lapis lava]

i love this game

[void ivy]

well done

that's the point

[desert goblet]

shut up kare-

[errant chasm]

Its amazing

[desert goblet]

i have 5 seconds to live

[void ivy]

QOI was not meant to be new or fancy, it was meant to assemble simple ideas into an image format that is just

okay

it's literally in the name

[foggy fulcrum]

the end is the end

[lapis lava]

@nocturne bough what are you doing

this is horrible

[winter girder]

trying to ip log me now?

[noble quest]

[void ivy]

and they compared QOI's reference encoder to PNG's reference encoder, i think that's fair

[desert goblet]

i quite literally just copy pasted so many times

[lapis lava]

revert

[void ivy]

that's the point of a reference

[desert goblet]

no i already know your ip i don’t need it again

[cerulean lance]

https://notaniplogger.xyz

[desert goblet]

[dense phoenix]

that's familiar but idk from where

[lapis lava]

i redesigned vendroid settings

[cerulean lance]

i should actually host something on this

[winter girder]

damn 😔 127.0.0.1

[cerulean lance]

of course relationshipdb is familiar

[somber leaf]

the reference is a reference for the spec not for realistic performance. ECT and many other tools have their own implementation of deflate 32 that are massively more preformant

[lapis lava]

so good

[desert goblet]

i plan to add way more lines on the site

[cerulean lance]

wait who are you married to @dense phoenix

[lapis lava]

horror

[small bramble]

https://www.reddit.com/r/rustjerk/s/82VBv2aegi this but inverse

[void ivy]

okay, and you can write QOI encoders that are better

[lapis lava]

kill relationshipdb

[void ivy]

i dont get the point

[desert goblet]

there’s only so many because i made it at 4 AM

[void ivy]

they're just comparing the two reference encoders

[dense phoenix]

?

[noble quest]

trust

[lapis lava]

did you actually ip grab @noble quest

explode

[somber leaf]

a lot of youtubers especially were claiming that QOI had similar performance to PNG which simply was a blatent lie and used one of the worse PNG encoders out there to prove it

[winter girder]

bro fr made a grabify link just for the memes

[somber leaf]

its like me using libaom and saying how dogshit AV1 while ignoring SVT-AV1 exists

[desert goblet]

but today,,,there will be more

[lapis lava]

its fake grabify too

[void ivy]

[winter girder]

i dont get people who ip grab people in discord servers

like it could literally be anyones

whats the point

[void ivy]

look in the end you seem to miss the point of QOI, and sure the benchmarks might be a bit crappy, but it literally is just some guy's toy fun project to show how you can make a simple image format that can (but not always) compress to the size of some of the really complicated formats

[lapis lava]

my IP is

[next warren]

4

[noble quest]

my pihole blocks grabify lol

https://host.sadanslargehole.com/u/zJLYjb.png

[void ivy]

QOI is genuinely really cool

[cerulean lance]

relationshipdb backup

[somber leaf]

Yeah i get it was supposed to be a fun side project but to compare it to PNG at all is misleading at best and at worse blatent lying

[winter girder]

guys, im shaking in my boots. someone knows my general location which is incorrect most of the time

[void ivy]

it's not really misleading

[cerulean lance]

who is 289556910426816513

[dense phoenix]

absolutely not

[winter girder]

https://tenor.com/view/trembling-shaking-scared-birgin-gif-20170912

[void ivy]

they compared it to libpng and stbi

[dense phoenix]

i am fully aware of that

[lapis lava]

its funny to scare kids

[dense phoenix]

????

[lapis lava]

with grabify

[dense phoenix]

ive never used it

[frosty plaza]

Hello

[void ivy]

stbi im aware is decently popular as just "give me image but not performance"

QOI is just fast by nature since it's extremely simple

[noble quest]

@frosty plaza you

[cerulean lance]

why are you married to @paper gate

ITS ZT

LMFAO

[dense phoenix]

Come to Brazil

[dense phoenix]

??????????

[lapis lava]

zeetie ship

[cobalt portal]

wait there's dom and sub in relationshipdb

[nocturne bough]

Some trolling for today

[lapis lava]

it aint even april 1

revert

[cerulean lance]

dom is the person who proposed

[nocturne bough]

You cant get banned by auto filter instead it will change review content

[cobalt portal]

marry me with @shadow owl

[dense phoenix]

ok fuck you then cause i didnt do it

never even used your shit

[nocturne bough]

Wrong

[void ivy]

and you can't say it's "blatant lying" when it's being compared to two different png libraries implemented by two different people - maybe they didnt benchmark the other ones because they just wanted a couple of points of comparison, who knows

[cerulean lance]

what the fuck is its id

[lapis lava]

1081004946872352958

[winter girder]

1081004946872352958

[dense phoenix]

1081004946872352958

[cobalt portal]

@shadow owl

[frosty plaza]

Discord ux very good

[golden marlin]

Well analyzed

[frosty plaza]

I cant look at notifa

(they are all friend reqs)

[frosty plaza]

Never

[noble quest]

is igbloncord what i think it is

[frosty plaza]

Okay

[frosty plaza]

It is correct

[cerulean lance]

clyde is dom

[fallow pawn]

[winter girder]

people living in brazil are sitting on a gold mine and they dont even know it

[cobalt portal]

[frosty plaza]

WHY DID U HUSK

[dense phoenix]

and now remove my entry or i will haunt you for the rest of 2 minutes

[frosty plaza]

oh god I opened rn app and phone started heating

Wth is this

[noble quest]

igbloncord

[cerulean lance]

im gay by lots of names

[twilit portal]

✅

[frosty plaza]

Yes very good

[cobalt portal]

do not send supersymmetry spoilers or you will explode

[frosty plaza]

I played on igblon event last time

[void ivy]

i will find it infinitely funny that instead of just making a fake user account for the warnings in reviewdb

[frosty plaza]

Okay wont

[void ivy]

it's based on an ACTUAL user account

[cobalt portal]

thanks

[noble quest]

@frosty plaza you should add me

[somber leaf]

@frosty plaza can you be my first user review?

[frosty plaza]

Wait

I will flip a coin

[small bramble]

reviewDB will be merged by the end of the century

[frosty plaza]

If it gets tails I add

[noble quest]

i will unhusk

[lapis lava]

@frosty plaza turn into a bot

[winter girder]

i was >:3

[hollow jackal]

flex

[somber leaf]

At least it was based

[cobalt portal]

merge this into vencorp #1032200195582197831 message

[lapis lava]

mantika you will friend me

[frosty plaza]

You won

Send req

[noble quest]

@frosty plaza tbh i watch too much igblon

[winter girder]

flip one for me too 🙏

[lapis lava]

for me too

:3

[cobalt portal]

me too
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1074756823208443955.webp?size=48

[noble quest]

and play too much modded

[void ivy]

if it hasnt got a PR

[next warren]

im friends with white checkmark ✅

[void ivy]

we wont

[cobalt portal]

ah

[void ivy]

we wont forcefully merge plugins people dont want merged

they're third party for a reason, usually

[cobalt portal]

yeah true

[frosty plaza]

Sorry no more reqs today

I need more reqs waiting

[cobalt portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1221107392943620277.gif?size=48

[lapis lava]

ill pay you

:3?

[small bramble]

that doesn't do any shit

[frosty plaza]

You are last

Tails and I will accept

[lapis lava]

okay

flip

[frosty plaza]

Heads, sorry

[small bramble]

people need to know that using tauri WILL NOT magically fix discord issues

[lapis lava]

i will send nuke to your oracle server

and to your house

[hollow jackal]

1 türk lirası has failed you

[small bramble]

and tauri is way behind electron

[dense phoenix]

but rust is BL-

[harsh minnow]

false

[next warren]

oat

[somber leaf]

I think windows should rewrite their desktop in electorn

[bold wren]

rust is boy love

[dense phoenix]

that's not caused by electron

[cobalt portal]

nah, python

[harsh minnow]

electron is not slow

[small bramble]

you will get nothing out of slapping the web app on tauri

[winter girder]

i wonder what people would do if they suddenly switched to something like tauri

[harsh minnow]

electron is as slow as the website it's embedding

tauri does not improve performance

[bold wren]

i do not like tauri

[harsh minnow]

it's not possible for tauri to improve performance

[small bramble]

tauri and electron are both basically web browsers

[harsh minnow]

tauri as a concept makes no sense and is just bastard child of the "rewrite it in rust" movement

[small bramble]

if anything tauri is offbrand electron

[twilit portal]

but rust!!!!!!!!!!!!

[harsh minnow]

open chrome rn, go to discord.com/app

[dense phoenix]

i mean

[west sigil]

hallo :D

[winter girder]

mass chaos among client mods and users

[dense phoenix]

its not a bad thing

[harsh minnow]

it has nothing to do with electron

[feral dock]

My chrome runs discord faster than the app.

[dense phoenix]

rust is still one of the languages of all time

[bold wren]

no tauri's awful

[next warren]

i run faster than discord

[cobalt portal]

it's literally just 2s and like 100mb less memory

[harsh minnow]

becsuse discords native code is garbage, try https://github.com/Vencord/Vesktop

[dense phoenix]

but is it slower

[cobalt portal]

the difference is insignificant

[bold wren]

it's nothing like writing rust and has nothing to offer as a "replacement" to electron

[somber leaf]

The users are typically unberable tho

[bold wren]

fuck tauri!!!!!!!!1

[frosty plaza]

Thats a lot

[harsh minnow]

are you a mac user

[next warren]

!!!!!!!1

[frosty plaza]

I like tauri because it doesnt bundler chromium

[small bramble]

i LOVE writing a gui crate in rust
I also love reinventing harfbuzz (riir)
i also love re implementing the w3c specifications
i also love writing a complex GPU accelerated rendering engine from scratch

[winter girder]

the only advantage tauri has is that it can nextjs projects and stuff in it. Electron requires raw react I believe

[frail lichen]

but on Windows it uses edge, wich is awful

[void ivy]

what?

[west sigil]

hi warning

[frosty plaza]

Edge is chrome

Which is not awful

[frosty plaza]

Hello

[twilit portal]

i'd rather have edge webview than edge at all

[small bramble]

plain false

[frail lichen]

but worse

[warm zenith]

everyone who uses rust will eventually oxidize

[west sigil]

does this mean i was warned

[bold wren]

gui is so painful

[frosty plaza]

VoteBAN

[twilit portal]

i only keep the webview so i can still use electron apps fine

which it works fine

[cobalt portal]

yes

[frosty plaza]

Perhaps

[small bramble]

we should all use Ducko's version of electron

[void ivy]

tauri, on average, uses more memory than electron

[lapis lava]

same

[void ivy]

the only thing it really has going for it is size

[west sigil]

D:

[frail lichen]

the problem is, that everything from edge is still in the webview, ig. password manager, autofill, rclick menu

[void ivy]

performance is irrelevant if your code is in js

[harsh minnow]

99% of things are inside the browser, not the native side

both tauri and electron are the exact same in terms of performance in that regard. the 1% of native backend should not matter, unless they are written horribly like discord's

the only advantage of tauri is that you don't have to bundle chromium and stuff so it's less disk usage. other than that it's inferior to electron

rewrite it in rust, but properly

[harsh minnow]

have you ever made an app with tauri @kindred jungle

[frosty plaza]

Tbh claiming tauri is faster is like using some javascript runtime ans benchmarking with only single instruction

[frail lichen]

first thing depends on the use case

[void ivy]

most of your interactions will occur on the browser side, and thats your bottleneck

even if you pass things to native you still have to handle stuff in js

[frail lichen]

true

[void ivy]

rust might be blazingly fast, but your web browser quite literally isnt

[frosty plaza]

The thing that eats most resources is renderer right

[harsh minnow]

if you have some specific cpu heavy work then yes. but you can solve that with electron by using a node native addon

[small bramble]

honestly I love rust and all and I like seeing projects in rust
but most if not all are bloat inflated
dev wise it's just another node_modules brainrot
usage wise not many people optimize their code, they are like "rust will magically make it fast" I mean well it does run fast but it's still slow and bloat

[small bramble]

replace chromium with servo in electron :^)

[harsh minnow]

rust is nice tbh but the dependency situation makes me cry

it's like they learned nothing from the hell that is npm

[void ivy]

calling it braindead shows a lot about yourself

[noble quest]

Shut up Snapchat

[lapis lava]

why have snapchat

so useless and bad

[noble quest]

I have friends

[nocturne bough]

Is there a language that has a proper package manager

Maybe golang

[noble quest]

They use snap

[void ivy]

sorry im getting really fed up of this whole "just use tauri" thing

[small bramble]

zed is like
1.2k crates

if rust is c++ but better
it's dependency state is node modules but worse

[lapis lava]

sms

[void ivy]

like

[somber leaf]

Yes

[harsh minnow]

hmm i think no

[warm zenith]

just use java

[void ivy]

tauri literally does not fix anything

[lapis lava]

pip

i mean

its proper

[noble quest]

They all have iphones

[twilit portal]

packagist

[nocturne bough]

It fixes enormous chromium binaries

[harsh minnow]

go package manager is good kinda

[nocturne bough]

Which is enough for me

[small bramble]

be zig (they don't have a package manager, you just use git submodules)

[void ivy]

then you have to deal with edge inserting itself into all of your projects unwillingly

[nocturne bough]

But meh its not faster definiletly

[void ivy]

yes, i do appreciate the size decrease

it's very welcome

[somber leaf]

I would much prefer just having native clients and not a fucking webview for all apps

[cobalt portal]

I like pip but I haven't really used anything else

[void ivy]

native clients are harder and then you have split teams

[nocturne bough]

I dont have problem with that tbh

[void ivy]

making everything a website is easy

[dense phoenix]

its a lot easier to make 1 app than 3

[cobalt portal]

*except if the distro repackages the python packages in their repo for whatever reason

[small bramble]

kindly contribute to github dot com slash arHSM slash lucid

[void ivy]

eh it means you have to manually shove settings and policies to get it to shut up a lot of the time

[nocturne bough]

Discord does the opposite of that

They nuked native java app and replaced with javascript

[somber leaf]

Because pip is shit and some distro like gentoo and arch rely on python

[odd wave]

yknow whatd be useful

[cobalt portal]

they're not too lazy, it just won't make any money for them

[fallow pawn]

they’re working hard making avatar decorations

[odd wave]

on discord

@ here pings for specific roles

[small bramble]

( I mean you can also use a framework which is multiplatform, then youll only have to worry about mobile, and fwiw you're already doing that with ra too )

[dense phoenix]

they should add discord

like

sending messages

[winter girder]

i was using webstorm for a while but i dont remember why i stopped using it ugh

[dense phoenix]

and stuff

[warm zenith]

they should remove desktop discord

[odd wave]

DISCORD 2....

[void ivy]

discord is actually saving tons of money by basically doing the whole "WORA" approach to development

they only have to update the website for the desktop app to be updated

it's genius

[odd wave]

desktop discord should be a fucking app, not css

[nocturne bough]

Wdym

[cobalt portal]

this

[warm zenith]

desktop discord should be a fucking app not a bitcoin miner that mines no bitcoin yet still consumes just as much resources

[void ivy]

and because discord is an always online service you literally lose nothing

you have to be on the internet anyway

[feral dock]

is there anything that vencord on normal discord is considered better than vesktop?

[somber leaf]

I get that 1 client is easier to maintain than several but even telegram has platform specific clients with a fraction of the user base

[void ivy]

edge webview unconfigured has some undesirable things like the ability to use the edge password manager cross-app or some very weird microsoft policies

you can turn them off but it requires specific config

[void ivy]

telegram hires different people

[small bramble]

discord has like

• marketing page
• web app
• dev portal
• native code (electron modules)
• internal tools

[void ivy]

[nocturne bough]

Hmm yea that might be annoying

[void ivy]

and also telegram is not on the scale of discord

think about it

[twilit portal]

terminal client!!!!!!

[cobalt portal]

yeah

[void ivy]

discord has servers, channels, private messages, group chats

telegram has private messages and groups

it is not NEARLY the same scale

[cobalt portal]

vesktop doesn't have any global keybinds iirc

[feral dock]

I had no idea that had even existed on normal discord so i am not counting it.

[void ivy]

servers can be huge with hundreds of thousands of people

telegram largest i've seen is a few thousand?

[somber leaf]

gonna add 3 more ui elements

[feral dock]

I am going back to discord.

[fallow pawn]

telegram channels are awful ngl

[void ivy]

but even then, getting a native app to feel nice will also be difficult

then you have to build one for linux

and mac

and windows

[somber leaf]

The complexity you’re talking about our is all backend, the gui client just has to be able to render them

[winter girder]

private messages?

[fallow pawn]

Most the big ones are just newsletters

[nocturne bough]

Arent there billion crossplarform libraries

[feral dock]

are you able to run discord and vesktop at once?

[warm zenith]

can't wait for a telegram gc with a million members

[nocturne bough]

You will have to write some platform specific code yeah but

[lapis lava]

vns

[neon ferry]

👉 #🏥-vencord-support-🏥

[void ivy]

and if you use the same base its fine! but then you violate platform consistency and people get upset

[cobalt portal]

I think so but why

[nocturne bough]

At least if you smthn like qt ui will be crossplatform

[void ivy]

and if you disregard that, you need your UI library to work everywhere

[cobalt portal]

also yeah

[feral dock]

oh right that reached the support level

[void ivy]

and then people might struggle to use your native app

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

i can go on forever

[cobalt portal]

ngl

[void ivy]

alternatively: shove the website onto the desktop

[cobalt portal]

i prefer discord sticking with electron

I doubt discord would make a Linux build

[fallow pawn]

They’ve done it for discord mobile

[cobalt portal]

if they made a native client

[small bramble]

again, use a multiplatform gui framework

[fallow pawn]

all single app for mobile devices

[errant chasm]

[nocturne bough]

I just think its not extremely hard to develop a native app

[void ivy]

dms

[void ivy]

sure it's not for one platform, but it differs on the next

[next warren]

I prefer going back to real life communication

kill the internet

[winter girder]

they are no where near private tbh

[void ivy]

and you're also thinking about building two separate versions of an app

[void ivy]

i dont use telegram

so i dont know