📕┇lore

[sacred latch]

"By siding with CNS, you acknowledge that Sofia lies, and that OSPUZE cannot be trusted."

"By siding with VAIIYA, you become part of a synchronized collective dedicated to continuous protection and harmony. VAIIYA cannot be held responsible for emotional dissonance or unauthorized disconnections."

[manic mirage]

cns sounds more fun

i want the truth and nothing but the truth

[dusk turtle]

My guess is in a future season they’ll pit Osp-Uze and Hydra-Q against eachother as the two sponsorships for the season. And as for what hydra q is it’s probably either a bottled water company or a sports drink company, OU’s slogan is “Who needs water?” So it would make sense that they would try and make the two companies rivals for ratings and such

[trail wren]

in case we needed more confirmation

[proven ether]

I didnt sign with Ospuze so I really hope the tier 2 cosmetics arent super cool

I guess we'll have to wait and see what Hydra_Q actually is though

[mild mountain]

Can someone explain thw WHOLE lore for me

[mild mountain]

I hv time dw

Just gotta take a shower rq

[gentle bronze]

Vaiins

[pine moat]

Bro I trust ospuze with my life

[elfin hatch]

-r

[ember forge]

hydra q could be sparkling water or a hydration drink like prime or gatorade

[young latch]

CNS are the hackers, vaiiya the cybersecurity, engimo are the one who gives internet, dissun electricity, volpe the vr tech from the game, holtow are insurance, Iseul-t merch and Ospuze and Hydra-q are energy drink.

" Who. Needs. Water", what is water made of ? hydrogen and oxygen. Hydro. Hydra-q.

Who. Needs. Hydra-q ?

[hazy sparrow]

I immediately thought hydra-q was a water company as well

[young latch]

and what if the truth about Sofia was , the shadow Ospuze gave to Hydra-Q. I mean, the millions bucks they steal to not give a chance to this compagny, plus the free merch from Ospuze

All of that to not give a chance to their direct competitors. Even worse, what if CNS had done all this because Sofia hadn't paid them ?

"Sofia lied" about the paycheck

[wooden nimbus]

Volpe is the company behind the VR tech (and jump pads) of the gameshow, though

[gentle bronze]

Did it not use to say that they can't protect you from CNS? What makes them think they can do it now?

[tight pendant]

I never signed with vaaiya maybe I will this time around

[stable spruce]

anyone know what the tier 2 vaiiya looks like?

[gentle bronze]

It's the outfit from the come and play trailer. No one has screenshots because no preview account owned the S5 sponsorship

[stable spruce]

which one

not the one from the beginning because the pants are the same as the tier 1

[dusky nacelle]

When I look at nokomi part of me thinks that’s what Kyoto was suppose to be before it went back to feudal Japan in universe

This maps also releasing a full year after 🤔

[manic drift]

has any one looked at the computers in sys horizons or tried to read the code in one of the videos?

also, we know that scottie was a contestant right?

[odd blaze]

I'm 100 late to this but have u guys noticed that the screens that show the players and the most recent thing (ex. First Elim, protect cashout) in the beginning of a match its glitched like cns is taking it over

[urban mason]

vaiiya is so tuff what is the lore

[sturdy crag]

its confirmed that holtow has to rebuild arenas right

[cursive relic]

Guys what does HydraQ do

[sinful forge]

Hydrate

[stoic ibex]

crazy tons of new tidbits to looks through

[young latch]

Water, but who. needs. water ?

[empty timber]

Dish

[paper canyon]

I.NEED.WATER

[young latch]

#📕┇lore message

[thin umbra]

Let’s mark the Lore of a Another Bad Unnecessary nerf to the Heavy Again

[humble belfry]

I kinda feel like
What if the Hacker group are a former member of Vaiiya?

There needs to be some answers of how they could breach a cyber/security company that's reputable for it

What if HydraQ is a hole they exploit after they know that HydraQ is denied to enter because of the lobbying of OZPUSE to keep them out of the competition?

It's possible that the placeholder of HydraQ is an exploit of their way into the system

That's probably the questions I could think of in regards to the lores that could possibly be filled out at anytime soon

[tacit quail]

???

[harsh spoke]

lol

[harsh spoke]

I'm also agreeing on the infiltration kind of strategy by CNS, seems like one of the best ways to get into corrupting and discovering about VAIIYA.

[young latch]

Do you see the asian Guy from the left of the android ! He was on the S2 trailer too

and why the battlepass end with Iseul-t tho

[eternal hollow]

ranked, last season plat, looking for teammate EU

ranked, last season plat, looking for teammate EU

[pastel zenith]

why cant i upload?

i took a pic in-game that i think has some lore but i'm not sure

[nocturne turtle]

you need to level up to send images. You could use imgur

[pastel zenith]

Alright

https://imgur.com/a/7wBBROa

I saw saw this and I know the game world is a game inverse but why does the item have a listed weight and what does that code mean?

[nocturne turtle]

Assets have weight to simulate the physics correctly.
No idea what the code is

[hardy berry]

!KAIJU!

[nocturne vortex]

New halftime event?

[hardy berry]

Hopefully

[merry talon]

TA and powershift's cover swapped🤔 is powershift brought by cns?

[nocturne vortex]

Did CNS make the new healing gadgets?

Cuz if so their crafts have improved

That or since they were officially a sponsor they didn’t have to rig anything and just made flush new equipment:>

[nocturne vortex]

Oooooo

Thats a keen eye

[young latch]

I hope i’m not wrong tho

[indigo willow]

What's the deal with the shark

[young latch]

Does it look like ? I have a doubt now@nocturne vortex

[odd blaze]

Has anyone noticed the new hype voicelines as a cns sponsor (I can tell if I signed with CNS or it's the Ariad Face)

Some of the lines I've heard are
"They wrote the rules, I rewrote them" something like that

"You play for the sponsors, I play for me"

[nocturne vortex]

Its very similar, the hairs the only difference i see

Also has anyone have a clip or thread that says the CNS are hackers

I don’t think anyone said they are

Trying to figure out some stuff

.>

[young latch]

From the s2 trailer and the easter egg, end of s2, Where they reset the ai

They don't say it directly but imply that they took control of the event, What, implicitly, means that they "hacked" the show to make a place for themselves, And not only, also following the texts hidden in the maps at the end of season 1 where they said that Sofia had lied

They hid messages, took control of the show without asking permission

AND NOT ONLY, because they also added the terminal attack + PowerShift, a more friendly alternative according to them to the base game

[odd blaze]

Some more voicelines with Ariad face
"Corporate firewall, cute"

"You call us hackers, I call us Liberators"

"What you call a glitch, I call a gateway"

[nocturne vortex]

Id like to say that i was leaning towards more of hijacked the show or something, Because in the store you can buy Vaiiya arena security outfit. Why would The Finals need arena security if they had absolute control. It makes me think that the VR space is more interactive than i thought like the arena is an actual arena in a virtual city and CNS just sneaks in sometimes.

[nocturne vortex]

Also reading this seeing what you mean that ya they can be hacking

[young latch]

From the moment you impose yourself by opening a back door and change the game to create an alternative to the basic ranked (it never existed), you add game modes, you modify the entire DA of the show, to the point of restarting the ai that controls it (advise by VAIYA), I suppose yes... it can be hacking

And then the terminal attack speaks for them, attack and Defence, vaiya seems to protect a computer and CNS seems to want to penetrate it by imposing a disk (?) Who is not supposed to fit in

[young latch]

It makes me think that CNS could totally be a team like the high notes, wireshark. But they have also established themselves as a sponsor

[nocturne vortex]

Who is not supposed to fit in? Elaborate

[nocturne vortex]

I thought HydraQ was CNS but just shrouded so they could confirm their spot on the sponsor board

And when the higher ups found out they dropper the 3rd and agreed that the head to head would put ratings and views through the virtual roof

[young latch]

CNS tries to hack, the old-fashioned way of course, with a disc worthy of the 90s, and vaiya tries to prevent them, to put this disc that must not be in it

And In the game terminal attack, we play attack and Defence (like CS). Terminal attack resumes the story that happened in the game between CNS and vaiya finally

[young latch]

Hydra-Q is an energy drink, Direct competitor to OSPUZE, and it seems that SOFIA had stolen Hydra's money to overshadow them, and it could be that she asked CNS to help her do that. What comes back to my previous theory: #📕┇lore message

[nocturne vortex]

Not trying to dispute but is this confirmed? Cuz if it is i wanna spread the correct lore and not my theorys that are unconfirmed

[young latch]

It is all a theory ! That's how I personally interpreted the terminal attack game

[nocturne vortex]

Ahh

Well its a sound one and i like it

[young latch]

I might be wrong too

[nocturne vortex]

Kinda just waiting for oscar to wander over and just post emojis again lol

[nocturne vortex]

But i gotta ask, why do you think the finals needs Arena Security?

[young latch]

It is a virtual world, which contains virtual objects that can be controlled by anyone, who need a server to run them, if there is a breach in their server and system they need a specialist to update them and other (and even prevent the cheaters) and then there is a money story at stake. Everyone wants to win no matter how

Holtow is an insurance but not a bank, assuming they are the ones who keep this virtual money, they need to store it somewhere

[nocturne vortex]

So we can assume thats there more than likely cases where theres cheating, stealing, rule breaking or all the sorts and its just kinda an unspoken thing that happens rarely

[odd blaze]

Made an error
"Multi-co calls us hackers, I call us liberators"

[young latch]

Surely, but maybe there have already been attempts that have already been successfully stopped

[nocturne vortex]

It would be funny if a hacker irl was hacking in game and a dev would join as arena security and just ban hammer them

[young latch]

This is the role of cyber security in short. But also assuming that multico keeps competitors' money, they also need their intervention, hence the interest of having vaiya and Holtow by their side

[young latch]

The loreverse

If hackers steal the money, vaiya also acts as a police and holtow can fully reimburse the multico subsidiary

[nocturne vortex]

I like to think by ready player 1 rules when puting the vr space in mind

[young latch]

But in the context of CNS it is something completely different and the fact that the CEO of multico (creator of the show), lets CNS enter the game means that he already has a solution. Doors remain half-open on purpose

Wait, If the back door was only a false door from the beginning, season 7 would mean the end of CNS but also from SOFIA on the other side

[young latch]

Thank you! From my point of view, the game imitates reality, there are things that come back from our daily lives

[nocturne vortex]

Or something deeper happens and not all of the finals is on surveillance

[young latch]

CNS can very well be former vaiya agents. Let's not forget that vaiya pushes the AI side of their societies to the extreme, it could be that they have replaced the human with the AI

[nocturne vortex]

Or put the human in VR space

OooOooo~

[young latch]

Nothing is human in their ads, all ai, Even their merch feals… robotic

[nocturne vortex]

Ya, but you can make your contestant a crash dummy or a Western cowboy

[young latch]

The s5, When vaiya come as a sponsor, we do not have a face for their sponsor (not like isuel-t and holtow) but a robot

We As One, all connected, one computer for all the user of the chip

Connect and unite to form only one (and also be controlled by one)

The AI should have no flaws, it is perfect, white and immaculate, modern, like the new map

And without emotion

You have seen it pass, but modern designs are made to represent no emotion (to go further, they are made not to contradict the design and therefore not to have an opinion on it, but that is not the subject), the new map, the sponsor's banner represents this emotion, nothing, so perfect. Like AI, perfect and emotionless, like the chip too

…I'm not far from writing a book on the game I think

[nocturne vortex]

Who was merciless marcus?

[young latch]

Marcus ?

Idk but do you know frank the pug ?

[nocturne vortex]

Was mentioned before the ShowTime season

Season 4

It made me think of a legend like dede or Scotty

[young latch]

Link ? Maybe it is the Guy who speak from the arena

[young latch]

Frank the pug is a real thing tho, It's hidden in the game trailers, I just saw it on the wiki lmaoooo

[young latch]

Nooo, from what i saw from the old messages, Merciless marcel is the CEO of Multico

[nocturne vortex]

OHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[young latch]

Marcus ?

[nocturne vortex]

I remember his name wrong then, my bad

[young latch]

But Marcus is the video editor for EMBARK, the one who made the trailers, what a Chad

Source : wiki

[nocturne vortex]

I wonder is theres a spread sheet with all the names and info of whos in the finals. Official characters

[young latch]

I was wondering the same thing because there are many characters who come back constantly

For exemple

Oops

From closed beta to season 2

And She already got moolah with her

[nocturne vortex]

Lol

[river ingot]

guys I have a finals/ arc raiders theory that probably isnt new

CNS has always been saying to seek the truth beyond the walls, and scotty and june are voice by ai right? So maybe the robots in arc raiders are using the Finals game show to enslave humanity and keep them pacified but the show is really run by ai and Arcs and not by people, the truth beyond the walls is the world we see in Arc raiders

[nocturne vortex]

Crazy

[fallow scaffold]

So the S in S lies does stand for Sofia

[young latch]

Arc raider and the finals have different timeline but, we can find some aspect from the finals in arc raiders like alfa acta

And Scotty is a real person, but June we are not sure. From the videos, the dot who represent June looks like an eye and the wave her voice, so maybe she is an AI that scotty made or something

[fallow scaffold]

Im pretty sure there was some text above or below the "dot" (it was a circle) that said call connected or something along the lines

[young latch]

Discord on the finals verse ? 🗣️ 🔥

[nocturne vortex]

Or big reveal June is the AI that runs the show lol

Or june was apart of CNS

[young latch]

Or an ai made by vaiiya

[nocturne vortex]

So much mystery!~

[young latch]

Listen, how she speak compare to Scotty tho

(Not the voice effect)

[fallow scaffold]

nah, if that was the case she couldn't be aware of the fact. In one of the final S2 lore vignettes she said something along the lines of "vaiya said the only way was to restart the ai", implying she thought of herself as seperate.
However she could be a member of cns, and that would be sick imo

[low sundial]

Has anyone analyzed the text scroll from the intro video yet?

[nocturne vortex]

Only counter i can think of is they mess with AI mind and make them think something else.

It makes me think CNS is trying to liberate AI from being abused

[idle orchid]

you see the main menu? this game is a setup for Arc raiders

[eager epoch]

I'm of the theory that CNS is actually just made by Vaiiya just as a ploy to justify their existence and get more money.

If they've got the ways into all of MultiCo's tech, then it would make sense that they just stage everything to make themselves look good

[low sundial]

Ok so I decided to look into the text scroll myself and by the looks of It it appears to be the same stuff from season 2 about failing to initiate the final boss program. But I think I might've found something that was overlooked the first time we saw it, there's data in the text scroll for a Player too, someone named "Maximus"

[little hollow]

Дувбуйоби!

[trail wren]

nah, it’s the same and we knew about this back then. we have a text file with most of the transcript

[frigid prairie]

Can it please be canon that CNS hacked the finals servers 💀😭

[frosty violet]

Imagine after this season CNS just deletes the game and nobody can play anymore

[manic drift]

^

[manic drift]

you can put it in 4k to see it better, i tried giving it to gpt but it gave wrong answers, a lot of stuff about player data and vr graphics errors, and some stuff about reverting to original settings

[manic drift]

this guy sent taht in like 2 other channels

[sly wing]

can i tag a comm manager

[manic drift]

wow that was fast, i looked away and the message was gone

[sly wing]

lmao true

[sturdy crag]

S LIES IS SOPHIA LIES

[reef breach]

If anyone asks themselves how Holtow makes money, we just got the answer #game-announcements message

[light flume]

This popped up again, is it mabbey a place or company?

[snow reef]

is anyone able to scan that qr code from the holtow clip in announcements?

[manic drift]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBif3O0eyNAxWmmYkEHZirOnsQFnoECBkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fthefinals.mywikis.eu%2Fwiki%2FIvada&usg=AOvVaw1LEPV0yeWhtC4NaxtOSJc3&opi=89978449

[light flume]

ah

[manic drift]

does this have anything tied to it?

[patent valve]

What did they mean by this

And also this

[sage frost]

Do you think Vaiiya is on its way to doing full-on mind control or just streaming ads and crafting propaganda?

[cursive relic]

On the video. Where Scotty talks to June and we see that June is on a screen, it says video call I think

[thin umbra]

That they dropped the ball this Season

[ruby token]

I think i have a found a sort of arc raiders reference in the finals. if u listen to the new protocol 3 unity track (2:08) u can hear two sound effects identical to that of the sound made in arc raiders when u click something in the settings/ui .

[hardy berry]

S lies confirmed as Sofia (see CNS disclaimer)

[sinful forge]

Probably just reusing assets, but good spot!!

[robust sleet]

Maybe relating to how kaijus appearing in media was a result of the fear of imminent death caused ny the nukes from ww2, thus representing the war between cns and Vaiiya?

[tacit pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-entrance-the-final-boss-dwayne-johnson-wwe-gif-2979005439647192259

[gentle bronze]

Okay so..

Exclusive items from S7 pass are apparently sponsored by ivada?

but it looks like the ultimate camera is a "hacked" version, by cns?

yeahh

[young latch]

The Weirdest thing is that, the last sponsor is from ISEUL-T

[wise badger]

This game has lore???

[young latch]

https://tenor.com/view/chockbar-chokbar-zinzin-fou-crazy-gif-11390744593735041392

[dapper vector]

Don’t even know why ozpuse is bad

[hoary anchor]

Unrelated to anything but the voice in the The Divide song and the voice in the CNS ad sounds like the Borg from Star Trek 🥱

[young latch]

#📕┇lore message

[indigo inlet]

Why don’t cns trust ozpuze ?

[vocal fable]

for anyone who wants to look around the new map, J24Y is my party code. we need some more <3(ee hunting)

[outer sable]

does anyone have a recording of the uninterrupted vaiiya commercial? i just want to rewatch it

for the x9800

[stable spruce]

sal is the first fully modeled CEO and he just

watches

[normal jacinth]

you will not believe what I'm about to say

[normal jacinth]

this is helpful ; is there like a document made i can access for all the collected confirmed & suspected lore etc etc?

[onyx mesa]

CNS is the AI of the finals like white blood cells!

[dense meteor]

CNS seems to have taken particular issue with OspUze and their CEO… seems odd, especially because Vaiiya and Marcel (MultiCo Representative) seem to be the ones that have mobilized against them. Why target an energy drink company when there are so many other, objectively better ways to cause damage? Hit Engimo and cripple the internet. Hit Dissun and power worldwide becomes messy. Holtow and people’s assets become more risky. Targeting them just doesn’t make much sense.

Also, what exactly is Sofia lying about?

[dry chasm]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sponsors

its not all the lore but just the known sponsors

[normal jacinth]

ahh, well thank you regardless because I've always been wanting to get into the lore with this game.

[north plover]

So what type of secrets do cns plan to uncover when it comes to vaiiya.
(Despite its CEO being a robot and the whole hive mind thing.)

[north plover]

Perhaps it's something personal or something to do with misdirecting them so cns can hack things while they focus on the deversion.

[plush needle]

What if Vaiiya genuinely are good guys trying to protect The Finals? Maybe the brain chips aren't actually there for nefarious world dominating purposes, instead Sal Scoria, being a robot, genuinely thinks that a unified mind is the best course of action for society?

[dawn scarab]

yeah. but also. who wants to be in a hivemind

never questioning anything and continuing to buy, buy, buy

[fervent bloom]

arc raiders sfx in protocol 2 unity ost 🤔

[primal glen]

VAIIYA protects you from everyone. Including yourself. THE FINALS will continue to operate no matter what CNS tries

[gentle bronze]

I assume because Sofia essentially "runs" the finals (newbie gear is sponsored by them for instance) and she's the main reason why, in CNS's mind, Finals sucks now

[trail wren]

we do not know the answer to both of your questions - that’s the whole point of this storyline

[clear grotto]

Do we know if CNS has an opinion on Alfa Acta yet or vice versa

[gentle bronze]

CNS spokesperson said "it's not just VAIIYA, we're coming for all of them" so I assume every corp is complicit in the lies

[nocturne turtle]

no we know nothing

[clear grotto]

Okay I was wondering cause Alfa Acta is like "Peace was always an option"

[gentle bronze]

I think it's satirical, Alfa acta makes fun of "muh guns" types of people, the idea of peace doesn't exist with them

[nocturne turtle]

They could also mean P.E.A.C.E.
Which means "Prototype Evaluation And Combat Experimentation" according to the wiki (i don't know the source of that info)
This would mean that "Using their weapons" is always an option

[clear grotto]

Ah if that was Peace means oke

[gentle bronze]

So... Ariad has new voice lines

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/7w5FgZqZFh

Is this the first occurrence of a lore character actually being "a character"? I don't think Dede nor Odilla have such lines

[tight pendant]

Nobody is talking about how awesome the updated announcer voice lines are. You feel so much more immersed in game

[gentle bronze]

True, I've noticed they're much more frequent

[dense meteor]

They were more questions to get people to think and hear other’s opinions than to actually get definitive answers.

That’s one of the things I love about the Finals, the lore is very speculative and allows for investigative and creative inference and speculation.

[nocturne turtle]

Not sure about Dede but Odilia and Valkyria have voice lines

Maybe "The Devourer" (Lvl 96 BP) also has voicelines

[gentle bronze]

but are they lore-related?

[nocturne turtle]

minor lore related stuff.
Valkyria talks about stuff related to her pilot career and Odilia about her trickery/deception skills

[hybrid cove]

This may be a little odd but I think I have almost definitive proof that CNS and iseult are related

First of all, the language they have in their new cosmetics and card backgrounds is Korean, iseult is a Korean based company

The sponsorship pants, are a resin of the loyalty lv2 iseult pants from 25

The sponsorship shirt, is a reskin of the s4 iseult shirt

The pose of the full sponsorship outfit model is the same pose as the loyalty lv2 iseult emote

[proud falcon]

cns use japanese writing and iseult korean

[gentle bronze]

1. Japanese != Korean
   2 and 3) That'd mean Dissun is also connected since the model for that jacket is based on a Punctuator set
2. Reused

If anything what's the best "proof" is that Iseul-t talks about anonymity

[hybrid cove]

Ah

I used Google translate on the sleeve of the jacket and that seemed to return Korean?

Idk but now I feel like an idiot lol

[proud falcon]

yeah some kanji may be similar but still the 4 wrinting system are really different (hangul (korean), kanji(ideograms) hiragana (syllabary for japanese name) and katakana (same as hiragana but for the foriegn word))

[frosty willow]

It could also just be that CNS likes the fashion designs from ISEUL-T and Dissun so they hacked the drip onto themselves and slap the CNS flair on it. Peak recognizes peak

[sly wing]

ospuze may be putting a lot of illegal chemicals in their drinks that people dont know of while making billions in money, and cns is exposing them, thats what i believe at least

thats why scotty is so addicted and why hydra q, a water company we think, is a rival to them

[fallow scaffold]

nope, this was known, I caught that one too and someone else in #easter-eggs referred me to a text file containing every snippet in that text scroll, including this, dating back to S2

[finite tusk]

Quick question, vaiiya is head of digital security of the Finals right?
What about engimo? Arent they a cyber security too?

[stable knot]

They’re more communications

You can check the wiki too

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/ENGIMO

[finite tusk]

Ohhh, like social stuff right?
Kinda makes sense by that security engimo skin in the store

[stable knot]

“Communications” is so broad… and in my head cannon I imagine The Finals is a game show in the Cyberpunk world, so Enigmo are probably up to some corporate shady stuff lol

[finite tusk]

Agreed tbh, i like that tought

[tight pendant]

Cyber communications

[gentle bronze]

Vaiiya is like an antivirus provider
Engimo is an ISP

[stable knot]

So Enigmo are like the AOL of the future 😅

[sturdy acorn]

Uh so. Can someone explain what is happening with vaiiya? I stopped playing like 3 seasons ago and i remember them being just a cybersecurity company. and now im back. In the newest in game trailer they are talking about some hive mind stuff. "We as one". Did i miss something important?

[frosty willow]

Well when people chip their own brains suddenly the digital world isn’t just limited to VRs anymore. VAIIYA ends up covering this too

[normal jacinth]

well with nobody giving them rules / regulations, they basically do anything they want that's digital

[stable knot]

Have CNS previously hacked The Finals?

[sturdy acorn]

Yes

That's the third time i think

[gentle bronze]

1st - Season 2
2nd - Season 5 TDM introduction
3rd - Season 7

[finite tusk]

Im still trying to figure out which side Im going with tbh

[sturdy crag]

I just realized the statue in horizon is ariad

[median lark]

Do you guys know if the test dummies in the practice mode have sentience?

[grave scroll]

anyone else hear the heavy usage of arc raiders soundfonts in the protocol 2 song?

[hardy berry]

tbh, it seems like all/ most of the corps have some kind of PMC/Hit squad of some kind Viiya and Engimo but also the guy with the silver skull mask in se4 had some ospuze branding

[dusky nebula]

What si protocol Xpose (week 3 WT)

[boreal vapor]

It does (you can see it in some videos from the playtest)

[cedar canyon]

It’s such a hard choice but I think I’m stuck with vaiiya since I signed with them in s5

[errant panther]

sounds like it

sometimes i feel bad for killing them

i think theyre people trapped inside the dummies, maybe people who have spent so much time in the virtual world their consciousness stays in it

[summer helm]

This description is frightening

What else could The Finals be, but “just a game show”?

[summer helm]

I hope it’s a modifier where everyone gets pinged if they’re moving at a certain time

[honest gazelle]

W

[snow lily]

Did someone see golden ticket with nama tama on Nozomi?

[dapper blaze]

uh...so....am i tripping or it fits the engimo playercard?

[dapper blaze]

could be?

[near linden]

wait but what about the video about vaiia's robots what does it mean do they make like cyborgs or what

[indigo fjord]

huh like what?

[open hinge]

the ops overdrive trailer, is that the asian female or asian male? (I like to make characters based off the posters and trailers)

[finite tusk]

I went with vaiiya tbh, Next time i'll choose CNS

[ruby galleon]

Would it be a bit of a stretch to relate the amount of times CNS has hacked the game show to the "one night, three dawns" phrase?

[iron hatch]

meet u in season 11

[fathom mountain]

Me too

They seem so creepy

[floral rivet]

Does anyone else find it strange IVADA made cosmetics for CNS? Doesn’t that imply some kind of deal or partnership

[floral rivet]

Vaiiya is a weird server hivemind consciousness thing.
So yeah they’re a tad creepy

[fathom mountain]

Wouldn’t CNS have just made their own cosmetics and just ported them into the game

[floral rivet]

IVADA has their logo on a lot of them

[finite tusk]

Whats ivada and vaiiya have in common?

They are related right?

[indigo rose]

Cns>Vaiiya

[errant mason]

the dev team are on CNS side

[manic drift]

what is MuCo DO S

[lone path]

Ist the operational system made by multico

[manic drift]

looking at the past messages

DAYUM YOU PEOPLE ARE COOKING FINDING THESE STUFF

[manic drift]

regret later

reading the descriptions are kinda crazy, "Trust the ones who built the firewalls. Please."

[manic drift]

"No escape. Just the loop. Just the lights."

a lot of vaiiya is cameras, all about watching, they are always watching

what is this 1984 type

[lone path]

That is probably a cypher

[lone path]

I read the book its very good

[manic drift]

i feel like there is a lot that we are just no digging into

a lot about dreaming and being uploaded onto somehting

like bruh, no 1 has even looked into this

14 10 and 14 11

"Time is money. This watch is policy." the cns watch was made my ivada

[manic drift]

good question, i cant :(

what is nullptr.

im assuming it means no output (since it has null in it)

[misty oriole]

Can someone tell me the punchline for CNS?

[summer helm]

We are CNS

[misty oriole]

Yes, I know but they have a message that’s directly towards us saying they’re here for us or smth like that

[tranquil cloud]

dont those just read what time it is when you’re looking at them? just 24hr clock?

[manic drift]

thats why we need smarter people on this!

i dunno why that didnt occur to me...

more stuff about light

[manic drift]

its talking about shadows, normally it talks about light

[summer helm]

Yeah it tells the time for you.

[manic drift]

so who is sal

[stable spruce]

this guy

[gentle bronze]

nullptr, or null pointer, is a special value for when a pointer (a data type that literally points at some memory address) points to nothing. It's often a cause of errors or crashes

[quartz island]

Uploading Contestant.

[fierce remnant]

nice fr

ye

[fierce remnant]

looks like irl fr

[manic drift]

i love my 5070ti

[lean thunder]

Does Scotty have an addiction to OSPUZE?

[stable knot]

Without a doubt

[lean thunder]

Maybe he should lay off it

[lean thunder]

Was sal manufactured by Vaiiya to be acting CEO or was she the founder and was created via a separate project?

[clever cloak]

"he"

[gentle bronze]

Yeah, the Sal backpack item uses "he"...

Was it a group hallucination that people referred to it as a she? Was it because of the voice in the vaiiya ad?

[weak hornet]

Can someone tell me where the plot is headed? i've been confused from S1 to S7 like i dont understand what the story is or where it's going, whp are the good and bad guys??

[tight pendant]

We have no idea where the story is headed. Just enjoy the ride

Enjoy the cutscenes and bad ass comsmetic ads in game and be a good contestant. And don’t forget, with iseult you can be anybody

[green haven]

any followup to anything anyone found a readable code or a real hint towards an ark?

[bitter elm]

Hear me out … CNS is backed by the Opsuze deep-state

[barren silo]

Has anyone found anything past the 4 tickets in the Nozomi/Citadel map?

[crimson wraith]

All I now is 2 or 3 off them have been found

[crimson wraith]

My headcanon is he was was an ai and became sentient and then made vaiiya or he used to be human

I definitely think vaiiya made ark do

[wraith basalt]

Finals tv show where we learn more lore about the sponsors and watch a team go on a world tour for the season? Pls

[scarlet sedge]

Urm, found this in the season 7 trailer for the finals and i don't know what it is

Damn, can't send pictures

[green haven]

uploade it send link

[scarlet sedge]

At second 38

In the video i saw some kind of giant on thwo leg standing hammerhead shark

Screenshot_20250615_184139_YouTube

[left bronze]

Probably an LTM incoming, as we can see a glitched heavy hitters map. Or maybe its supposed to be the Final_boss CNS tries to boot up in some lore cutscenes

[sly wing]

Why is godzilla here

[errant raptor]

xD looks hype tho

[simple hull]

It's hamzilla

[lean swallow]

hosting a private match to investigate nozomi/citadel, if anybody wants to enter here's the code: 2AB6

[green haven]

What Videos are there bbesides the sesson trailer?

[left bronze]

I dont remember exactly, but probably the 2 times CNS hacked, all of S2 and late S5, so any trailers from around those times

[sacred latch]

what is VAIIYA even sayin

[tight pendant]

Oppression from arc machines

[tawdry yarrow]

Arc raiders HBO show confirmed

[vale coyote]

really?

[tawdry yarrow]

No bro sorry 😂

[tepid crypt]

So Vaiiya is totally running CNS right? All the talk in the teasers about letting them in over other planned sponsors (including ospuze who’s like the main one) it’s definitely them controlling a shadow company they can beat back over and over again as a show of force right?

Guaranteed job security, control the opposition in secret.

Even if you look at the skins available a lot of them are sorta blending together this season especially the circuit rewards. Can’t be a coincidence.

[wanton lintel]

im making a promo vid for the finals, someone contact me who know abt the lore so we can talk tysm

[finite tusk]

That's actually such a mind changer, never thought about it like that

[open hinge]

IS THE season 1 battle pass skin odlia suppose to be a light or a medium, i see her with a revolver

then a throwing knife

[vale moon]

What does C.N.S. stand for?

[vale moon]

I'm siding with C.N.S.

Cause I don't want to be mind controlled

[robust nova]

It’s always good to see another CNS enthusiast too! Vaiiya’s lies will be revealed

[manic drift]

so.. what do we know about sophia??

and what is she saying that is a lie?

[robust nova]

That’s a good question there and to be honest I’m not entirely sure. However, there’s been a few theories circling around in the forms here on the lore page from a month back or so

[knotty fractal]

finally hes complete

https://tenor.com/view/critikal-penguinz0-hit-a-little-boogie-with-it-gif-27602297

[robust nova]

More specifically the properties of Oze-Puse energy drinks containing either sugar/caffeine even though they specified in their ads that I didn’t, but mainly they found on the can’s label that it did contain it hence a false ad claim

[robust nova]

More specifically the other more serious lie is potentially a more addictive property that’s in the drinks as mentioned in some of the recent season 7 teasers at the end of last season as well as the Oze-Puse expo segment of world tour as announced by Scotty

We know that Marcel and June have confronted Scotty in both the world tour and teasers about Oze-Puse and laying off it since Scotty had been drinking multiple cans in one sitting causing him to act a lot more hyper and enthusiastic then usual along with the smell that it leaves behind

[quick flare]

@nobodynoone1313#0000

[deft furnace]

Guys what’s Vaiiya’s slogan?

[boreal vapor]

WE. AS ONE.

[lament ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jJEuVxn1iuw?t=33&feature=share

I believe there's a fitting lore reason behind CNS's massive headstart based on the teaser;
CNS are being farmed for views and attention by Multico after being "led in" with the false promise of "WE ARE CHANGING THE GAME."

Mutico and VOLPE clearly see some usage for the rogue hacker group as their existence causes drama and drama is amazing for views and profit, not to mention their "ideas (gamemodes)" that both Multico and VOLPE has clearly used to great effect. VAIIYA being their "stand in" soldier to "fight" against CNS, almost like a mercenary group.

The true puppet masters are completely removed from the center of attention while contestants fight and take sides on this make-believe "battle of chaos and orders" that Mutico has cooked up. And likely that VAIIYA and their "soldiers/employees" has been brief about this little "show" they're doing, and been instructed to play along to the best of their ability. Why else would they advert a new line of chip/robot-frame during this supposing "war of chaos and order" ?

[summer helm]

Are people talking about now it’s likely that IVADA might be running the show behind CNS?

Or atleast influencing them in some way?

Stryker Grid set item descriptions are sounding a lot like CNS

[summer helm]

No mention of IVADA discredits a lot of this.

Also, assuming Volpe is an enemy of CNS is bold.

But IVADA has a huge place in this, as they’re the 3rd biggest sponsor of the event.

[clear grotto]

Thi Using Vaiiyas que ball head

and yes i tried it without the CNS hoddie and ak they still yeild the same results

[lament ravine]

Item description are far from "Hard evidence"
They're more flavor text than anything. and IVADA has never a "full" sponsor that you could back like HOLTOW or ISEULT. So idk where you get the "IVADA is CNS" is from beyond pure fan fiction.

VOLPE is the people BEHIND the VR tech, and In S2. Multico and VOLPE are one of the same as one exist within the other and the other funds the one. It's logical that VOLPE wouldn't want their tech to be broke into by a rogue group. Think about it.

IVADA as we know right are just a fashion brand. That's it. No lore even close to related to them

[summer helm]

Memory altering, memory storing, nanomachines in the OSPUZE. Tons of potential based on the hints so far.

[summer helm]

Everything in the game tells the story, even the Easter eggs. So I’m not sure what you’re on

They don’t write things accidentally

All the descriptions are tiny bits of lore.

[lament ravine]

If you take in "Item description" as "hard evidence" than ALOT of the items in the game are story-breaking

[summer helm]

What story is there to break, when almost all of it besides a few conversations is ironclad and nontheoretical?

Which item descriptions do you mean are story breaking?

[blazing crater]

I noticed that when I go to get sponsored by CNS, I got a message at the bottom left saying "By accepting this, you acknowledge that Sofia lies and that Ospuze can not be trusted"
Whats up with that? What does CNS have against them? I know why they would be against Vaiiya but going after an energy drink seems strange

[summer helm]

We don’t know what the lies are, but there are some ideas.

[blazing crater]

Also, this sponsor is a hard choice. Either I say screw Ospuze despite choosing them in season 6, or potential but unconfirmed mind alteration

[summer helm]

I went from OSPUZE to CNS, and now I have a Ospuze/Vaiiya contestant since I didn’t think it made sense for my CNS contestant to Rep Ospuze

@lament ravine I do believe that some sponsors are potentially positive leaning towards CNS. Which I hope will lay the groundwork for a future Civil War update.

[lament ravine]

the word I forgot existed was retcon.

There are alot of flavor text in the games are written just for the sake of the game being a videogame. Things like ISEULT being a fan favorite yet as we could see clearly that they're last place both times. Not to mention a bunch of VAIIYA related that stated that absolutely contradict their purpose in game.

Unless there are some "easter egg" related to IVADA, we know very little about beyond their fashion and well, based on the wiki, their tech

[summer helm]

There’s no reason not to believe most battle pass stuff on sponsor relevant gear is lore stuff.

[lament ravine]

The battlepass make sense yeah
But that IVADA set you shown isn't

[summer helm]

The Finals is basically Dark Souls extreme of lore, it doesn’t write almost anything

[blazing crater]

Oh also something I recently learned is that there is an official website for ospuze. Not sure if I can post the link but since it seems to be official material?

[summer helm]

But a lot is hinted by just looking @lament ravine it’s not no, but it literally has a C U SOON emote dude. What’s U upside down? An N. CNS. And then the other item descriptions hint towards The Divide even more. I’m not crazy here dude, it’s all legit!

[lament ravine]

There are lot of things we don't know that are planned. I am using what we have know based on the CLEAR evidence that are given to us as a framework. CNS is currently being manipulated for the sake of rating.

Dude. That a reach and a fucking half and you know it.

[summer helm]

Also, fun fact. I’m like 95% certain that the new store pack with the multipacks character is related, most likely a sibling of some kind or close friend, to the Vaiiya Robot Lady, or is just her before she was turned into the thing by Vaiiya. The charm has both their faces so it’s either one of those likely.

[summer helm]

It’s not a reach at all, and you know it! Cmon, if it makes sense, it makes sense. You don’t even need to stretch it or squint your eyes to see it.

[lament ravine]

It would make even less sense logically that a brand, who in real life; PAID for a spot in the finals to advert their stuff. Would support CNS, who, before, was actively discrupting the show, damaging their bottom line.

Now, after Multico has set their puppet strings and farming CNS for views. NOW they're happy about CNS because they're bringing more eyes to their product placement. This is just marketing 101

[summer helm]

I’m not sure what IVADA is up to exactly

[lament ravine]

What every sponsors in every gameshows ever wants.
money

The war is CNS vs Multico. and CNS is currently unaware that they're being used

[summer helm]

The backdrop for them on items is a purple dripping liquid reminiscent of poison, so it seems like maybe IVADA is like a poison, maybe they infiltrated CNS? Who knows.

[lament ravine]

They're too focus on "VAIIYA IS THE BAD GUY, THEY BUILT DA WALL, SOFIA LIED"
no, MULTICO Lied

Multico has always been the looming GIANT of Evil Corpo. VAIIYA and OSEPUZE are mere pawns

And right now? CNS are being milked like cattles; And exactly how the lore predicted;

CNS supporters in this discord are doing exactly what Multico wants. Fighting VAIIYA instead of them

[summer helm]

Dude Vaiiya is fucked

Like insanely compromised and evil, they DDOS your nervous system if you’re off schedule.

[lament ravine]

VAIIYA wasn't even part of the show until Season 2 iirc.
They're contractor. Anti-virus program. They blocked CNS out once, now, they're just "letting" them back in? Nah, that's BEYOND sus. They're being told by Multico to LET THEM BREAK IN

[blazing crater]

Wait where does it say they do that???

[lament ravine]

OH without a doubt. VAIIYA is fucking EVIL AS ALL HELL.

[warm yacht]

I just picked cns because they have a cool aesthetic

[summer helm]

Evidence is suggesting the Vaiiya also has the capability to literally suck the data out of your contestant. And then we don’t know what happens after that

[blazing crater]

I already had my doubts about vaiiya but damn. Wish I got this game when it first released, Im catching up on so much lore this week

[lament ravine]

Like straight up; dystopia, mind controlled murder bots with corporate uniforms and white aesthetic to make themselves look like the good guy? Yeah no VAIIYA is EVIL

[lament ravine]

s2 VAIIYA was just hired as "Okay, get rid of them please"
S5 VAIIYA was bait.
S7 VAIIYA is now FULLY aware of CNS and know how to profit off of them. For Multico

[summer helm]

It’s so cool how they’re doing the lore. Seriously, take the item descriptions in, they tell the story. The battle pass literally is the story in a way, told through the items and the descriptions. Even the way it’s set out too. All very thoughtful when you look at it through the lenses of them telling a story.

[warm yacht]

Damn..

[lament ravine]

The only BAD thing that CNS did so far is (Out of hte lore) made S3 a TA rank season.

[summer helm]

Also the advertisements and the maps. The actual map sais a lot about Vaiiya that nothing else in game will. There’s a weird Tiger and Snake Statue in the Vaiiya building for example, they don’t seem to be attacking each other, but attacking together.. wonder what that’s about eh..?

[lament ravine]

Tigers are known for their furiosity while snakes know for their sly-ness and both are often seens as creature of evils.
Exactly what VAIIYA is imo. Aggressive, Oppressive, Sly, and evil as fuck

[summer helm]

It’s so weird seeing it too, like, it’s almost the most human part of the whole sponsor.

Tells so much about them though. And it’s just one prop.

[warm yacht]

Order does bring about unity in a sense

[lament ravine]

Here's the thing;

VAIIYA feels the most "human" because their CEO is so involved with the game; it gives it alot of personality
While the other CEOs; when was the last time you heard from HOLTOW?

[summer helm]

“Protect you from yourself”

[warm yacht]

Even if forces people to stay in line

[lament ravine]

Every-non-VAIIYA CEO got their bag and fucked off into the background
VAIIYA, has been the corner stone of all of the sponsors; Always there, watching, lurking, overseeing. Under Multico's or der

[summer helm]

They seem to be tip-toeing more with character involvement. Junior Mcjohnson got a lot of time

[lament ravine]

They're soldier for hires. They're clone troopers.
And they do it, happily for sal. As likely, Sal is collecting data too.

And Goddamn it. I AM ONE OF THE MIND CONTROLLED CONTESTANT 🫡

[lament ravine]

How funny that Juinor got so much screen time compare to SOFIA, the BIGGEST sponsor of the finals? Interesting right?

[summer helm]

At first I found Vaiiya pretty boring, but had I known they had so much cool lore, I might it have picked IseulT again at the time, I think they were the alternative that season..

[lament ravine]

Both Security Companies...
Both under Multico's order.

Both used something that was CNS's creation, as part of their selling point (TDM and anti-virus)

[lament ravine]

Nah, I instantly saw it. The white clothes, the single red eye. The clear as day "wE ARE THE FUCKING BAD GUYS" vibe. Yeah. Their "boring, and clean aesthetic" is intentionally part of their design.
They are perfect, too perfect. Eerie perfect.

[summer helm]

As a bias wrecker though, at this point, I think they’re potentially related to CNS. Now that’s a crackpot theory

[lament ravine]

ISEULT might lean towards CNS since, after two bitter loses like that being "fan favorite"
IT would make sense for ISEULT to defect towards CNS

Not to mention alot of ISEULT clothes carries that CNS purple

[summer helm]

I just think it’s weird they’re just placed randomly at the end of the battlepass this season. It’s odd. And not only that but Iseult themselves is kinds aligned in attitude to the goals of CNS. They want you to be yourself.

[summer helm]

It also carries the IVADA hot-pink.

[lament ravine]

Agree.
VOLPE too. Likely they were trying to push ISEULT out but failed

[summer helm]

Ooooh. It’s probably the sponsors fighting for air time behind the scenes

I actually think that is why we don’t see some sponsors specially yet, or often. Like Trentila, for example.

[lament ravine]

VOLPE is the most important sponsor for multico (the VR tech that makes it possible), so having them as the second to last page is odd. Something for sure isn't right and it's CNS' fuckery without a doubt

[summer helm]

Big wonder if the system will end up being rebooted again

I hear some people think it will be rebooted into a medieval map

[lament ravine]

Depend on how Multico react + what CNS could do.

S2 reboot was because they didn't know what to do and asked VAIIYA to just "wipe and restart"
Now, since they know what CNS can do. They might not. And just purge the CNS data once they're done with it

[lament ravine]

that is PURE reddit fan theory with zero bases nor pattern. Hopeful yes, but illogical

[summer helm]

Haha ofcourse, it’s too specific really regarding the location. and it’s gonna be cooler for all of us really if Multico decides to do something different, or dare say CNS calls the shot

[lament ravine]

I doubt CNS will be able to do anything beyond what VAIIYA and Multico let them.

Remember, they're being used for views, and nothing more at the moment. They have no control over anything that VAIIYA isn't watching over. And everything they managed to do, has already been claimed by VAIIYA (S$S has a vaiiya anti-virus chip in the background watching)

And sadly. Most CNS supporters in this discord, are completely unaware of them being used. Just like Multico wanted.

Their enemy was never VAIIYA. Yet they've been fully gaslit into fighting what is effectively, an endless supply of murder bots. For no reasons.

[warm yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-ornstein-ornstein-the-dragonslayer-smough-gif-5806102255510053066

Ah, no embed

Falls to my knees

Ive been played....

[summer helm]

As apart of multi co and being like, a big sponsor, they are an obstacle still. We shall see what happens in the coming weeks.

Week 3 is Protocol:XPose, July 3rd is CNS Override, so we shall see.

[lament ravine]

Oh VAIIYA is no joke, they are still a hyper advance AI security company. But nobody is talking about even "hey, what exactly does VAIIYA get from this beyond a paycheck?"

Nobody even questioning why VAIIYA fight

Everyone, is being puppeted. But only VAIIYA knows who their master is

[summer helm]

Data and reputation, apparently.

What does it take to get a Devourer sent after you?

[lament ravine]

Oh that's part of the deal no doubt. But again. They turnt from just an "anti-virus/anti-hacker company" that was hired to kick CNS off to a full sponsor

[summer helm]

Pfft, I bet they knew that question would have to be asked.

[lament ravine]

Likely, someone extremely well known. Like Ariad.

[summer helm]

It’s kinda hard-core that they give their absolute elite units a glowing halo adornment.

[lament ravine]

I also have a fan theory that CNS's leader WAS Ariad. And after his . . . "execution." the faction sort of scatter.

Look at thier aesthetic from S2 to S7. It's completely wrong

S2 CNS was glitchy, error-covered, faded.

S7 CNS are neon punk aesthetic with very, very plain and almost, corpo-coded jackets and suits

[summer helm]

I only started from S3 sadly

[lament ravine]

gimme a sec. I'll show you

[summer helm]

But you have a point, I’m going through earning the Season 2 Battle Pass this Season.

[lament ravine]

That's not the only thing. ! sec

[summer helm]

Oh. But , you should consider a teeny bit that a big theme of this season is that we are now completely “tuned” into CNS. So we are reading all its colors and tunes. Hence the rewards and stuff.

[lament ravine]

These are S2 CNS @summer helm Notice how all of them are glitchy, extremely hard on the eyes, error-covered outfits. Like they don't belong in the game

[summer helm]

Yup, but also the interference is no longer here

[lament ravine]

Yet now. They only have this weird corpo jacket that every other sponsors has? Nah. Something changed within CNS chain of command

Something is VERY wrong with CNS

[robust nova]

That seems pretty solid for the most part, I could see how the endo-skeletons and frames that Vaiiya are creating is very much in the realm of assimilating the general populous into more of a perfect hivemind while restricting any sort of free will or thinking. Also the sister/friend theory is really cool too. I could see that as a sub-plot for part of the season

[clear grotto]

Could just be as simple as trying to appeal to the auidence and players

[robust nova]

Solid point there, and they’ve been hidden in the gameshow since season 5 so they could’ve been fine-tuning their hacking skills which could be a reason as to why the current bp skins this season look more refined and polished compared to season 2

[trail wren]

big assumption just because of a cosmetic

[mild mountain]

Vaiiya on top

[mild mountain]

Maybe theyre plotting a cyberattack or something like that

Like what happened with SYS$Horizon

[robust nova]

My honest prediction here is that since CNS might win the sponsor showdown this season and story wise Multi-co decides to make CNS an official sponsor of the gameshow and kicking out Vaiiya temporarily from the roaster of sponsors. I feel like Marcel would try to play it off as an intended outcome and try to create a decoy CNS ceo or actor to portray them to confuse the general public. Also it allows them to figure out how CNS managed to get into the gameshow and bypass Vaiiya’s security system and Volpe’s defects since CNS backfired through their systems the first time around

But to add on to this with what’s happens with Sofia and Oze-puse, the rest of the sponsors probably aren’t informed either and that will ultimately ending up backfiring as each of them will attempt to take matters into their own hands causing a slow collapse of Multi-co from the inside

[gentle bronze]

Nah, to me it moreso looks like CNS finally got a stable enough grounding to not have their items be glitched out

we can still see they're having trouble with maps, these being stilly glitchy

[mild mountain]

Or what if next season is a complete turn around

Basically Vaiiya and Volpe rid CNS from the systems

[gentle bronze]

based on last world tour week, CNS ECHO, I assume they'll be taken care of somehow, and will end up as just an echo

[sweet iris]

Does anyone know where all 4 tickets to Nozomi/Citadel are?

[sick thorn]

I think they're random for everyone?

[nocturne turtle]

#1381733504718606496 message

[nocturne turtle]

they aren't random

[copper kraken]

You need tickets for that I destroy everything Hammer

[open hinge]

IS THE season 1 battle pass skin odlia suppose to be a light or a medium, i see her with a revolver
then a throwing knife

[frosty willow]

I think every contestant outfit works for every build, both in lore and in game

[coarse sinew]

that isnt how the finals works. its a virtual world and a contestent can pick what weight class they want for the competition

[coarse sinew]

so the way this guy speaks is bassicly incoherent right? also included iis the comment with a guy claiming there is no lore at all somehow?

[tight pendant]

Odilia is throwing knives

[pastel geode]

i dont think the ai lore is real but it is a really cool idea

[charred salmon]

I hope there’s some sort of connection between Arc and The Finals somehow

[summer helm]

You’re seeing it this season

[charred salmon]

How so?

[summer helm]

Vaiiya has Arc all over it. CNS has the elements of Arc Raiders like the colorful wavelength associated with them.

Protecting us from ourselves? That sounds exactly like Arc and it’s not even a stretch

I think Embark has done exactly what people want and tied the game to Arc Raiders with its lore, but it’s 80 years before, a lot happens in 80 years.

[sick thorn]

Oh! So maybe three locations are already known! Gotta find the 4th

[gentle bronze]

sorry im only recently getting into the lore what are we talking about with tickets??

[sick thorn]

They are easter eggs, there's 4 of them, if we collect them all and put it in a very specific Arcade Machine, something will happen

[summer helm]

Have we really not found all the tickets yet?

[sick thorn]

We are not even sure it... if what the guy above said is true, the tickets are in the same place for everyone, so everyone must've found the first three, or the last three, or any three... just one remains, maybe some people already know where the last piece is but they either gatekeeping it or they are not even sure if they have the missing piece we are needing

[steady summit]

Can someone explain what even are the tickets everyone’s talking about? What’re they used for?

[dull sleet]

What do we think abt that "some doors are left open on purpose" line from the trailer?

[tranquil lark]

What I do know for sure is thst on some of the final teasers for every season they some how connect each other so there is a lore idk who said there isn’t

[manic mirage]

There is lore in the finals. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

[tranquil lark]

As mentioned every teaser within the finals connects

[manic mirage]

Yup

There is definetly enough lore to make an 30~min video

Maybe even longer

[tranquil lark]

Plus the new map already says allot,I just hope that embark studio doesn’t become like Fortnite and ruin the game

[manic mirage]

I dont think embark will ruin it

They seem like a very good company that has passion and actually cares about the fanbase

I just hope they wont get greedy

[tranquil lark]

They already kinda are with the new battle pass

[manic mirage]

I bet it was nexon studios’s idea

The company that owns embark

[tranquil lark]

But other then that everything is good

[vast drum]

maybe its bc its yk f2p? so its a way thry make more money to continue the game

[tranquil lark]

Yeah but the game is already on 300k,they already made allot of money from the premium and not ultimate

[reef breach]

Bro I swear, lore chat is like the calmest and most dedicated channel on this server😂

[sick thorn]

XD

[proven ether]

What about EE channel?

[reef breach]

chill too lmao

[tight pendant]

All the tickets have been found already, no idea on next step. Visit #easter-eggs for more info

[vernal steeple]

I’m not sure why there’s confusion about this. All 4 Nama Tokens or tickets were found a couple of days ago, and it’s documented in the EE channel and Nozomi/Citadel thread. We put them into the 4 machines and they changed to “Level 1 Downloading…”

We couldn’t work out what the next step is though.

[vernal steeple]

^

[summer helm]

Thanks for letting me know!

[fringe quest]

They need to balance a lot of things but first they should fix their servers

[lean thunder]

In the Finals, it's sort of confirmed Scotty is human by the fact he drinks OSPUZE. But what about June?

And in that note, the crowd is most likely computer generated but what kind of viewership do you guys think the Finals has? Do you think they are like the top dogs of TV programs or are there potentially other tournament-type shows that out perform the Finals in viewership? This is all speculation of course

[split niche]

From my understanding the crowds in the arena are people who bought a ticket to watch the virtual show from inside the arena itself, however I could be getting my information wrong and with the amount of sponsors and backing The Finals has It's pretty safe to assume its a huge deal maybe the biggest virtual game show their is in its universe.

[lean thunder]

I guess I just imagined the crowd was for the hype factor and most people watched the action via close-up camera angles. But I guess in VR anything is technically possible

[buoyant cradle]

i mean with how far away the viewers are all theyd get to see is a couple explosions, so the crowd isnt probably seeing anything from up there. Also in sys horizon, there is no crowd (i also think there is no announcer or cheering, just glitched scotty and june, correct me if im wrong) viewers probably are closer to the arena and get to see replays like in football . This is all just speculation, not sure how rob has planned things to actually work

[dusky nacelle]

I heard that syshorizon is based on a real location, what are the most popular theories of what its based on?

[buoyant cradle]

we actually dont know, embark has chosen to keep it a secret

[dusky nacelle]

dang maybe they actually want to "finish" it someday, use it as a seasonale map like what they did with LV stadium

[buoyant cradle]

they might not, they really like the map as it was the hardest make. However, vaiiya could wipe cns, restoring the map for anevent or something

[hidden citrus]

that could be pretty cool

[manic mirage]

If i remember correctly its a bunch of different places

[buoyant cradle]

yeah, like alot of different buildings combined in an actual place or smth

[sick thorn]

I presented a theory I thought of, it's in other channel

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1217498821563514951

[plucky shard]

You won. You are unparalleled. You are the ultimate winner. But you lowered your head. During the battle, you were heroic and your legs trembled. But now, it seems as if you have no breath. Your soul has separated from your body. You can no longer feel this world. Your consciousness is hazy, just like a dying person. But you won! You are unparalleled! You are the ultimate winner! You have merged with heaven and earth! Enjoying the hard-won victory! Player Behavior analysis 100%, uploooooooooooooooooooaded in..........

[nocturne turtle]

This game has lore???

[dire kettle]

in The Divide music it says "vaiiyas lies will be unveiled" thats crazy

[tight pendant]

I mean

Do you really trust a mega corpo to put ai chips in your brain

[bold jetty]

The finals has lore???

[sturdy acorn]

Yes

The ai won't be able to survive 10 minutes inside of my head

[chilly oyster]

Wasn’t it like Washington DC or smth

[chilly oyster]

Get out of here bru

[chilly oyster]

Yesyesyes‼️‼️‼️

[proven ether]

Wait, didn’t we figure out what sys was based off already?

[summer helm]

Yeah I heard it was based off some museum on some campus

[latent cosmos]

talk

[proven ether]

no

[latent cosmos]

im just talking in the groups to get to lvl 35

[latent cosmos]

Im the one talking

[proven ether]

Mhm, I figured since you had no colored role

[crude river]

lol same

[latent cosmos]

same

[crude river]

Is that the only way

[crude river]

lol

[proven ether]

Sending messages gives you xp, so yeah

[crude river]

Is there any way to check your progress?

[proven ether]

Go to https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1009841693593440367

[crude river]

🙏 thanks, 27 rn

[latent cosmos]

text

[crude river]

Txet

[latent cosmos]

text

[prime latch]

This has to be spam

[gusty rampart]

Hey would anyone be down top help me get a private game joining so i can explore the new map by myself?

[crude river]

What do u know

[prime latch]

?

[crude river]

§

[prime latch]

this is all lore talk right here

[crude river]

I don’t feel any lore while playing, the sponsors all feel placed last min with no significance to our gameplay and minor map changes

[vale coyote]

while i think the finals has a pretty good lore, the finals is a shooter, you don't need any lore to play it, either way, the the finals lore is way more well strucured than lore from bigger games like fortnite or valorant

[crude river]

But not apex

[crude river]

Apex showed you need voice actors and a good story to really sell your shooter

[vale coyote]

Idk about Apex, I played It a little bit, and had a friend that loved Apex, we never, NEVER had a conversation about it's lore

[crude river]

That’s you guys lost, there’s tons and in game comics

[trail wren]

we literally built an entire Apex Lore community

just because some players didn't discuss it doesn't mean it wasn't there

[vale coyote]

Not to underestimate apex's lore but i feel like if you have to draw upon Other products like comics or sèries like Next level there IS something wrong with the script

[trail wren]

Apex lore was overall well made until S6-7 i would say. they had narrative issues with not being able to close character arcs because they can't kill main characters

[vale coyote]

Sorry if my grammar is bad, English is not my first language and my grammar corrector IS fucking me up

[vale coyote]

They can, they don't want to, on a good script a good writer has to take risks

[trail wren]

well it's more complex than that, i don't think it's the writer's call in this case since or entirely their fault

[trail wren]

Apex showed that VA and good story CAN be done in an FPS but it wasn't the reason it became popular. the game became quickly popular because of how it innovated in the BR space using Titanfall's universe and gameplay mechanics

[errant mason]

what if CNS is the good guys

[vale coyote]

wow really?

[errant mason]

i just thought that up on my own

[trail wren]

anyway enough lore channel for me today

[errant mason]

you should add that to the timeline

[crude river]

Ehhh not really, it didn’t have wall running and titans and ppl didn’t know the 2 were connected till season 4 really

[vale coyote]

you really are a genious, aren't you?

[errant mason]

yeah, i know thanks. bTw i got 63 in an IQ test so im pretty smart

[vale coyote]

bruh my gifs never work

[errant mason]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-git-gud-gif-16530511115199627055

[vale coyote]

i don't understand why doses this happen

[errant mason]

you need red pee color name

[trail wren]

i'm not saying it was literal Titanfall but it had the fluid gunplay and movement. and again, the idea that people didn't knew until S4 is just wrong. we knew from the get go and we built a community dedicated to its lore

[vale coyote]

i am starting to feel like a confused grandma with this new smart technology, Damn it

[errant mason]

i think that when you get green name you are able to stream in the voice chats

[vale coyote]

oooooh alr

[crude river]

Majority of casual players aren’t in communities, they get on for awhile and move on, I didn’t when it came out and I didn’t play titanfall but I knew of it & it’s mechanics

[vale coyote]

i play balatro, i can't really read the instructions

[errant mason]

red means go

[vale coyote]

ooooh ok, me understand now

[trail wren]

totally. and i'm not arguing against that, i just wanna get the point across that just because players don't know about a game's lore it doesn't mean it's not there or that others are aware of it

[open hinge]

yeah but valkyria is a heavy

[ember forge]

Apex Story is trash 😂

They don’t know what they are doing with it, and it just goes in circles

It’s not even consistent with TF2 lore (ie Conduit)

[ember forge]

People played apex because it was innovative and satisfying/rewarding to play. The lore was something that only started to matter in season 2-ish or Elite Queue mode

[crude river]

Correct

[ember forge]

I feel like The Finals lore while really good is really hard to start/explain

It’s not like apex legends where you watch a video it’s more like an analog horror

[queen birch]

You know, now that i think of it thats a good way to describe it

not quite a story like other games

[trail wren]

like i said, it was good until around S6

[rotund sundial]

I dont think The Finals needs that much lore. its a game show

the uncanniness adds to it

[fierce heron]

Sybau

[dense meteor]

My biggest issue is that it retconned Titanfall and nerfed Pilots. And it continues to kill our chances of Titanfall 3, but that’s irrelevant. I also don’t like the whole Battle of Gridiron thing.

[hidden citrus]

how did it retcon Titanfall?

[summer helm]

The Fjnals is a very specific game in its scope, especially with how the story is being presented. We don’t get any angles but from really directly inside the game.

[finite anchor]

The lore in the finals is weak lowkey like why do we have a whole map illustrating it thats unrealistic from a lore standpoint

[summer helm]

The games just entered its 2nd year, and we’ve been given more and more lore every season.

[buoyant cradle]

the lore aint weak, try explaing it lol

no one but rob probably can actually do that

Idk if yall have looked thru battlepass, but level 95 is the reward: Mood calibration. It involves someone pulling the code out of another, and the person is screaming and then dies. The description is about how you didnt read the fine print in the employment contract. This has led me to believe that cns is trying to expose how vaiiya is making people join "the hive" and by how multico has let cns in but changed what cns said. In the s7 cinematic, sofia was "handled" and then on that picture its graffited that sofia lies. Sofia was pinned as the scape goat. Anyway, this is all a hottake with bad grammar but id love to ear any explations for the mood calibration emote lol

[frigid orchid]

so do we have any information ab announcer #3, the in-stadium dude?

[plucky shard]

我如何发送图片

How can I send pictures

[thin umbra]

I just want to see Scotty and June

[frail drum]

sounds amaizing

[errant mason]

they dont exist, they are robots

[scarlet pasture]

this was interesting to think about, I love hearing peoples theories about Vaiiya and what they're actually doing. clearly a very evil cooperation with some very potential dark goals.

[buoyant cradle]

Scotty is real, but we dont know about june

[rocky sinew]

i haven't played since like season 4 and decided to get back into the game and im very confused on what's going on, can i get some help 😭🙏

[manic drift]

scotty was real

[quartz island]

Seek the Truth Beyond the Walls

[dry blaze]

I regret signing with CNS, they tried to make me do weird things.

[steady summit]

Interact more until you level up then you can

[smoky basin]

Added heavy minigun, medium rifle, another light smg, healing gadgets for both heavy and light, las Vegas rework, CNS/Vaiiya map. Along with some UI changes, an improved practice area, and plenty of bug and performance fixes.

New season is peak

[rocky sinew]

thank you ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[tepid copper]

Why does that one Alfa acta guy look like Zach from ghost adventures

[slate berry]

Halo reach

[granite tide]

Wish we had more lore about the meatspace

[wheat socket]

it's called arc raiders

[granite tide]

Could be

[coarse sinew]

except when she isnt

[coarse sinew]

not likely

[tight pendant]

Valk is heavy, deal with it

[buoyant cradle]

then why does she have two light weapon skins🤔

[tight pendant]

She carries the mini gun

[latent cosmos]

oof

[manic drift]

is this at all important??

[zinc ivy]

so ive been google translating everything japanese ive seen in the battlepass this season and it seems a lot of the cns merchandise refers to these phrases:
"dream"
"circuit maze"
"discover"
"the truth"
"memory"
im not 100% sure this has perfect accuracy but i know it is a little bit credible because on the cns card background thing the corner translate to "with love"

another thing i noticed was on the bootleg root weapon charm the small bit of japanese that is legible says
"memory log"

ive checked the cns sponsorship rewards page and most of the japanese on that is just the same words that are in the battle pass. im not really into the lore of this game but id like to be so if anyone could explain to me whats going on or if i just found something new.

[buoyant cradle]

cicuit maze is interesting, thanks for translating!

where did u find circuit maze?

[frigid stream]

Can someone give me a summary of the lore from season 5 and onward

[manic mirage]

almost no major lore lol

some bits of lore here and there

but s7 is cooking rn

[slate sable]

!

[dense panther]

the finals expanded to the aztec region but in the back, vaiiya got their hands on mayan technology and blueprints which assisted them in creating a more censored and safe-for-all experience in season 6 with the football theme and vaiiya-cum-engimo censorship which expanded till the end-users (us+characters behind the VR, the ones actually playing) chat. Noticing this, CNS decided that the balance was shifting and was affecting those which shouldnt have been affected (us), which led them to break through the seams on the billboards and out of bounds in certain maps by the end of season 6 until they launched a full blown war against vaiiya in season 7 to make sure they dont break the balance again and so the overall grand scheme of things to happen will happen.

[frigid stream]

Ty bro

[proven rapids]

All I hear from this is that Vaiiya found ancient mayan rituals to trap the human soul and uses it on people

[gentle bronze]

is this background based on a real art piece?

[lean leaf]

use google image
||https://www.google.com/search?vsrid=CLGD1cCliv2-5wEQAhgBIiQ3MzdiNjU3ZS1jNjMzLTQ2MGMtOTE4Ny0yZDhjOTU0OThlYWUyBiICZGgoBDijnYPU_P-NAw&vsint=CAIqDAoCCAcSAggKGAEgATojChYNAAAAPxUAAAA_HQAAgD8lAACAPzABEKwDGNYDJQAAgD8&udm=26&lns_mode=un&source=lns.web.gisbubb&vsdim=428,470&gsessionid=-HPoYlZIYYGqsUS5BHvnxa_5euGJ5EWwh8aI2c3axQ8biVE7b7BibQ&lsessionid=aVGpYQ8o4IWoieyqko4S-Y2xDNiZiHEU-z4LfhDLLSLWTXF9WAzmxw&lns_surface=26&authuser=0&lns_vfs=e&qsubts=1750421509911&biw=2519&bih=1292&hl=fr||

[frosty willow]

Alfa Acta CEO Junior McJohnson

[tepid copper]

Yes

[cold condor]

bro

[zinc ivy]

Pretty much everything has it. Both the cns stuff and the vaiiya robot skin (I forgot her name)

[quartz island]

Guess with it being CNS vs Vaiiya, Then these server issues are just diegetic storytelling.

[manic mirage]

where did you find this

[vernal steeple]

The entrance to the arcade says that, and it appears on one of the skyscrapers.

[teal blaze]

delusion

[neat flame]

Who tryna run

[loud smelt]

how to tag the VC in the chat for LFG ?

[austere sage]

The devs must be having a great time watching all of us try to figure out the lore

[frigid orchid]

I personally think that scotty is still real, given the many cans of ospuze in the cinematic (ai cant drink ospuze) & the fact he actually reacts to marcel opening the door in said cinematic. as for june im not so sure

[buoyant cradle]

do you think that in order for the level to finish downloading, we have to do something in the vaiiya building that says circuit maze?

the level in the arcade, that is

[radiant fable]

Hello veteran Lore Seekers. I'm new to the finals due to Arc Raiders. How likely do you think Embark is/would be connecting the two games's lore? I already have some theories but I don't know The Finals lore enough to be certain.

[tight pendant]

Share your theories here, I personally, love speculation.

[ember forge]

I think it is likely I just don’t know how, because Arc Raiders seemingly is in another timeline/aesthetic unless cosmetics in this game and stuff are not canon, also personally the lore probably goes the finals>then arc raiders then maybe both at same time

[radiant fable]

Different aesthetics makes sense, since The Finals is set in a hyper VR

[radiant fable]

Hold up I need to write it down!

So I think there is close coloration between VAIIYA as makers of ARC machines (and the droids you see scattered around in ARC environment being the same as the droids in the VAIIYA ads) and CNS being (or becoming?) a faction of the raiders.

I don't know enough about what Meatspace is (and if describes Earth or another planet), but I feel knowing that will clarify whether The Finals timeline is at the same time as ARC Raiders

But what is very possible is that the ARC machines were created to extract resources to keep The Finals game operational. I'm imagining hyper VR needs a lot of resources and energy to operate.

[ripe meteor]

Anyone got a good lore YouTube video to recommend for someone new

[radiant fable]

https://youtu.be/_aH_jgZrpxg?si=bK09_RbTaOq28mg8

I enjoyed this one. But it doesn't include Season 7

[ripe meteor]

thanks

[manic mirage]

I dont think there has been a lore video for season 7 yet

Not enough major lore to make one

[pallid geyser]

Anyone know what CNS stands for?

[robust nova]

I think it stands for central nervous system but I could be wrong here 🤔

[scarlet pasture]

Sameeee

I wish there were more people making videos on lore, like speculation and theories

Especially up to date with season 7

[manic mirage]

Yeah there’s not many lore youtubers in this community

Almost none

[scarlet pasture]

The C could stand for Collection, or Collective, as I seen cns get described as a "collective hacker group" before

though Central nervous system makes alot of sense, i doubt it would be that black and white

[gentle bronze]

Collective Nacker Sroup

[radiant fable]

https://youtube.com/@rockhoundblack?si=IMV9ht1pUp0cf3JZ

This guy is always pretty good

[manic mirage]

Yup

https://youtube.com/@jonskelipoikajp?si=-h0yPz1ShbdQdYwg this guy is also good

[scarlet pasture]

🗣️

[manic mirage]

Agree

[manic mirage]

Wait thats me!

😝

[gentle bronze]

in case someone doesn't know, Sal speaks!

[austere sage]

I was doing my biology homework and the only thing I could think of when doing the stuff with the central nervous system was CNS

[manic mirage]

Lol the finals brainrot is real

[tawdry yarrow]

I'm seriously wondering if certain cosmetics are going to integrate with Easter eggs / lore secrets now

[gentle bronze]

Could be. I personally think that this is just Embark originally putting Sal as a pet, but changing the item type because of its location (though the dog is still a pet so idk

[blissful wraith]

Some of them really seem to be

[thick nebula]

I heard the lemon on a spear twitch drop was somehow lore related?

[gentle bronze]

cave johnson as new ceo

[tawdry yarrow]

Every can of ospuze is made from the juice of thousands of lemons extracted via throwing spear

[hollow kettle]

omg

[normal girder]

One thing I've noticed about the Ospuze Pyro Grenade cosmetic is does it infer that Ospuze is alcohol based? Since it needs to be flammable to act as a molotov/incendiary grenade? Sorry if this is obvious I just wanted to ask if this had been looked at

[vale coyote]

maybe ospuze was originally a alcoholic drink that, just like cocacola derived to the drink that we know today

[normal girder]

Ah yeah, it would explain why it was in an older style glass bottle with Original Taste embossed in it.

[vale coyote]

the styled glass bottle, the paper tag, everything screams old in its design

also, i have searched on some renders of the osp uze cans, there is no cans with the "original taste" text

[normal girder]

Yeah, I only saw it on the glass bottle cosmetic

[vale coyote]

that would mean that the modern osp uze is not really the original taste

[normal girder]

Yeah, and also wouldn't the design of the bottle also put Ospuze as existing in thr early 1900s as the design of the bottle is incredibly similar to those used during that time

[vale coyote]

in the the finals world, osp uze is probably the biggest soda company, and that would last long, just like coke

it is the soda brand that we have seen the most after all

[amber garden]

I like to think it's actually a more niche energy drink company and Scotty's addiction is why they're the main sponsor of the games.

[vale coyote]

that might be it, but there are some things that dont mach with that

[finite tusk]

Yo i was actually so curious to know what he sounded like! But like this happens mid game or what?

[amber garden]

You're probably right but I just think the idea that scotty's crippling addiction being the sole reason why they're so prominent is just so very funny.

[gentle bronze]

no idea actually, i assume it's the same system as a pet (i don't know how pets work)

the reason why Sal isn't a pet is probably because it'd be kind of silly

[finite tusk]

Yeah i think so too, but hey its still a cool lil detail tho

[vale coyote]

1. The fact that there is a bottle of Ospuze so old and so well preserved that an exact 3D model could be made means that the brand is a very appreciated brand. 2. MultiCorp.inc would not care about Scotty's Ospuze obsession as long as it did not affect his work as a presenter. They would not let the simple obsession of one of their employees influence the biggest game show in the world.****

[rocky lion]

Bottle flips then drinks the Molotov

[vale coyote]

i think i killed the channel

[vernal steeple]

Thanks for the mention! I’m currently working on a vid to cover a lot of the lore. It’s been a bit overlooked lately from a content perspective.

[vernal steeple]

There’s varying takes on this, but the current situation is that we can’t really be sure either way if they’re connected or not. My personal take is that we’re seeing Easter eggs between the two games and that they’re not actually connected lore-wise, but we need more info to be sure.

[radiant fable]

Amazing looking forward to it! Yea I think looking for lore connections between the two games is definitely a cope mechanism while waiting for ARC Raieders 😂 But the droids have me really thinking. Don't you think the droids from VAIIYA ads and the ones scattered about ARC Raiders look pretty much the same?

[ember forge]

wow he sounds like stephen hawking

[vernal steeple]

I don't think the droids look that similar. The ARC Raiders ones look pretty archaic, like they were made with 1970s parts, and the Vaiiya ones look futuristic.

[teal blaze]

do you know if he makes comments during matches like the moolah charm

[ember forge]

VAAIYA mogs ARC clearly (This message has been approved by VAIIYA’s Advisory Board, Sal Scoria, and the Augmented Reality Commission.)

[hidden bridge]

so we like are players playing in a virtual arena but WE are the players playing our in game players playing in the virtual arena its like meta

[woeful prism]

I got a question… does whatever sponsor you pick for Season 7 change the direction of the game?

Like when the season ends I mean.

[radiant fable]

please mr. rockhound black, let me hold on to some hope! haha but in all honesty I am looking forward to your next lore video!

[ancient lily]

dont know anything aboutthe lore

[tepid iris]

hey anyone dow to play EU server

[candid ether]

This is lore, not a "looking for teammates" 🙏😭

[tired sapphire]

They got the first letter right though give them credit

[long urchin]

I doubt it

[cosmic forge]

At most it might influence who might be in the sponsors for S8, but given 7's a CNS season it'll likely just be a new batch for 8 without CNS or Vaiiya.

[cunning holly]

they should add aliens into the lore somehow

think about it, just drop globb into helping cns

[stone cave]

That looks a lot like the levels from space harrier, a Sega master system game from 1985 https://64.media.tumblr.com/5ecb173d56ccd5546892830c690b8527/c3eb8ce2eae5aebf-f4/s540x810/b3f9d81fb744cb3a9f14002400e4b60c5fd36385.png

[worldly topaz]

all I have to say is 💀

[wide anvil]

what is this game even about guys

i need some basic info

[normal ivy]

virtual sports

[wide anvil]

so they're not like phisically shooting each other, is it like a simulation or what

[radiant fable]

hyper virtual reality

[trim bloom]

Im genuinely a person who prefers the world and story of this game over some of the gameplay LIKE I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THE LOST BETA SCOTTY MENTIONED ONCE

IS HE THE STRIKER??? MAYBE WHO KNOWS

[spice plume]

same

[scarlet pasture]

explain pls? whats the lost beta scotty?

[trim bloom]

Oh boy so Scotty mentioned a beta once he was in which did not have coin death you just die that's why Olivia is dead and a legacy contestant

[scarlet pasture]

oh wait thats interesting

I had no idea that was even a thing

[frosty willow]

Odilia isn’t dead? She debuted in season 1, and that’s not beta

[sand igloo]

Lore in a game where you blow up things? Hell yeah!

[mild bramble]

why dont energy drinks come in bottles?

[frosty willow]

In the meatspace they do

But cans can’t be sealed up like a bottle can. So you’re more compelled to drink all just to throw the can away, instead of saving for later

[mild bramble]

i figured it was they shipped better to be honest but thats just as plausible

[eternal sigil]

I got a question (I’m new and I f**king love this game). What is the lore of b sides ? Like it’s only b side ost or got something else ?

[gentle bronze]

Not sure what you mean. @eternal sigil

[eternal sigil]

B sides is an ost

So my question is like is a b side lore or what ?
Like b side maps were a thing ?

[steel jolt]

This game has Lore?

[eternal sigil]

Yep man 😂

[steel jolt]

I am new and only been pplaying

How long would it take me to understand/learn the lore of this game?

[tranquil cloud]

5 minutes

[trail wren]

personally, if they connect the games lore-wise, i will lose a lot of interest

[trail wren]

yeah, literally just a few minutes

[agile scarab]

what is the lore in the finals it must be very in eteresting and many easter eggs to come i cnt se the easter eggs from now but the easter eggs will become more then just hat

[gentle bronze]

B-side as in a literal "b/second side" of a vinyl (as vinyls can be recorded on both sides)

it's not like idk, binding of isaac with b-side meaning alternative characters if that's what you're going for.

[tight pendant]

Open your eyes is also referenced in the movie vanilla sky with tom cruise

[pallid elm]

thanks for the addition, we know the spanish film for a long time now but did not find anything relatable

[pseudo dagger]

Any known CEO or HEAD of CNS?

[keen hatch]

does anyone think CNS could be taken care of this season?

since this season is the climax of the CNS beef

[solemn tulip]

what about sys$horizon, does that resemble anything in the guys brain?

[pallid elm]

one of CNS member is araid

[pallid elm]

I think CNS is something they can't take care of lol

[pallid elm]

I'd say it's a memory bank, the map has these buildings: museum, campus, art gallery, library, work space. these things don't just go together in a real world, you can't have all of these in one place, so I'd say it is somewhere storing memories

[slender dome]

The theory was the Horizon is loosely if at all based on the Smithsonian Museums in D.C since that's where the mammoth skull is located

[solemn tulip]

Yeah, but overall the theory of it being inside a guys brain being tested on sounds like the matrix but more complex, and that’s what I’m here for

[pallid elm]

based in real life is there yeah, exactly same model, but lore wise is different topic

[pallid elm]

yeah it would be kinda cool, smashing brains and machines together is what I feel it's like

[rotund star]

taking one look into this channel made me realize i knew absolutely nothing about this game

wait, so S7 takeover was fabricated? wild

[boreal vapor]

This is insane, but the more I think about it the more sense it makes 😮

[pallid elm]

thanks! but without actual evidence I can't say for something for sure, but if I have to extract one thing out of my theory is AiW (alice in wonderland) references might be part of story telling

[pallid elm]

oh my, easter egg channel is whole lot deeper lol

[cunning holly]

[barren delta]

yo, anyone have like a video or know why the Vaiiya grid is in Sys horizon?

[shell ermine]

So I wonder if it’s true that The Finals might be connected to Arc Raiders story wise , also now in S7 there are those rainbow stripe themes everywhere just like in Arc Raiders .
Would be so amazing if those games were connected

[worldly topaz]

I don't think they will be but oh boy do I hope I'm wrong

[pallid elm]

Rainbow in the finals are not the same one as arc raiders, the lines in Arc raiders represents "arc on screen" which is the big impact at the end of timer, the finals rainbow on the other hand, from design perspective it is a sign of retro style because in the old days, color display is a proud technology, that's why a lot of computer company have rainbows in their icon. lore wise not sure what it is for now

[gentle bronze]

If anyone, probably the person who appears on the broadcasts. However it's officially unknown (as far as the game saying the CEO is literally "unknown")

As for Ariad, their name references Ariadne, a princess from the Minotaur story who helps Theseus with getting out of the maze. If we see Finals as a maze of sorts, then they can be seen as a guardian angel of sorts, especially since "-adnos" means "holy" (and Nozomi [new map's name] means "hope").

Then there's Arcus/4RC85/485!D4, who posts on r/cns subreddit. We don't know if it's Ariad and/or the person in broadcasts.

[coarse sinew]

im like the only bitch that would hate this 😭

[gentle bronze]

I personally would prefer if the connection was minimal at most

The games take place 80 years apart, which isn't a random "bajillion years in the future" which means the date might hold some meaning.

[pallid elm]

you're not 100% not alone on that one :3

[dapper blaze]

absolute foreshadowing

[pallid elm]

Arcus is Italian for Arc! (kind of interesting) btw did we get rob's eye as of "their name references Ariadne"? or that's your guess

[gentle bronze]

I think so?

Given the fact we're seeing stuff about mazes (like right above us) it's probably a given

[gentle bronze]

yes, same thing as rob calling arcus "absida":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apse

[pallid elm]

Oh that's interesting!! thanks for filling me in! :3 buut I didn't find any eyes from rob unfortunately :c the ariadne thingy

[uncut bay]

@frigid estuary masked links don't work here, i removed your timeout

[frigid estuary]

thank you, did you read my discovery?

i mean, can i post it without maksed or what?

[uncut bay]

Hi, I did a bit of research on the bracelet numbers on the Cosmetic Secrets wiki page, and I found out that if you take the numbers and map the name of the game in a loop 'THE FINALS' to them, you end up with 'T H E F I N N A S A N E L H F E A S I E T S.' Rearranged, this becomes 'THE FINN AS AN ELF EAST.' I don't know if this could mean something, but at least I hope it's something. (ChatGPT did the rearrangement for me)

[uncut bay]

yes, normally you can post without masking the link

[frigid estuary]

ok thanks

[pseudo dagger]

Amazing informations. Thank you

[nocturne turtle]

Chatgpt hallucinated bcs you can't rearrange the letters to get that. chatgpt can't really be used for stuff like that bcs it just makes shit up

The mapping itself is also wrong

[prime maple]

Also we're not supposed to use ai to figure stuff out lol

[tiny notch]

.

[pastel prairie]

anyone know anything about the multico files leaked by cns

Like, the codes specifically

[vernal steeple]

There’s a whole Easter Egg thread for these: https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1244010150420021340

[pastel prairie]

Thanks didn't see that

[clear grotto]

Guys did we have any updates about the A.I. that basically is the game since s2/s3

[regal oxide]

no

[quartz island]

I wish our channel had threads

I’d love to organize lore topics here

[regal oxide]

I agree that'd be nice to have here

[fringe lance]

Too busy feeding his ospuze addiction

[frigid estuary]

Important piece of lore right here

[pine moat]

Based on the rewards from the current season, is it implied that cybernetics/body replacements are relatively common in the "meat space"?

[tight pendant]

Only if you agree to vaaiya t&c

[proven ether]

Meat space being the non virtual world, we still have no idea what it looks like out there

[tranquil cloud]

what if its beautiful and lush and utopian, thats the kinda twist i need

[pine moat]

I guess to be fair all we have seen is a small part of an office in the non virtual world

[quartz island]

Have we analyzed the S7 songs deeper?
[S7 OST is] “Not just music. It’s storytelling.”

[verbal temple]

Would anyone love an animated finals based tv show like from the perspective of a contestant trying to win a tournament or possibly an audience member wanting to compete ?

[tranquil cloud]

scotty’s debut

[manic drift]

no

def not an old message, i js remembered about it

[teal blaze]

that's always been around

[manic drift]

ik, that guy js asked if there are any referenecs and i didnt know until i remembered about this

[tulip verge]

Is V.A.S an elite unit of Vaiiya?

[errant mason]

what if CNS are the bad guys

[charred granite]

they brought in terminal attack and vaiiya took them out, they are the bad guys

and marcell left the door open for them, theyre controlled opposition after they got infiltrated by the feds

theyve been incorporated into multico as an iseult branch thats why bonus pages are just random 2nd tier iseult items

all the most expensive stuff is now being sold in CNS' name no self respecting group would let that happen

[paper canyon]

vaillya voluntarily kept TA and changed it to the new ranked

vaillya are the bad guy

[cunning cairn]

Furthermore Vaiiya is destrying the enviroment

[paper canyon]

true

[charred granite]

all that BS happened cause of the forced reboot nobody chose to do anything from the map to the mode

idk what youre even thinking of

[paper canyon]

and why we roboot, cuz marcel, marcel controls vaillya

[charred granite]

no its cause the game was unstable

marcel is multico wtf are you smoking

[paper canyon]

no vaillya a say that

[charred granite]

F on the lore test

[paper canyon]

marcel isnt only multico

im gonna continue ee hunt, thats better then that

[charred granite]

vaiiya is a multico subsidiary

[paper canyon]

ye

[gentle bronze]

y*llow roles fighting

[cunning cairn]

crazy

[paper canyon]

yeah

even if i dont want to fight

if only i wasnt y*llow

[cunning cairn]

uny*llow yourself now!!!

become no role chad

[paper canyon]

x)

[wheat bear]

Imagine there is a knockoff drink of Ospuze: like "Generic Energy Drink"

[wooden pond]

I’ve had this head cannon for awhile that I hope is true where, during Scotty’s rookie season iseul-t was recruiting for a new shoe line so Scotty signed with them (essentially be there Micheal Jordan) referencing the tweet from awhile ago. Than after Scotty stopped being more active in the game he signed with Ospuze for better passive income sense the shoes stopped selling as well.
I started thinking this sense a-few seasons ago

[dense ingot]

Hydra Q

[tranquil cloud]

i heard ppl say that was a water brand but ig we dont know that

[novel heron]

Theres lore?

[final oak]

Any good yt vid suggestion to catch up ? (I am playing after season 1 )

[solemn tulip]

I suggest you scroll up since there’s a big theory about the finals being inside a man’s brain, getting tested on and in a coma, where CNS (the central nervous system) tries to fight back to wake up the guy from those people who are testing on him, and vaiiya is basically fighting against CNS to make sure they don’t get control over the guy.

CNS also says “open your eyes” or “seek the truth beyond the walls” which indicates on how the person needs to realize that he’s not in the world he seems and that he must fight to wake up from it, but vaiiya isn’t gonna let him wake up that easily, thus resulting in the hacks in system (prob meaning that the machines on the patients room are being manipulated to find a way to wake up) and so on.

[gentle bronze]

i know that theory

[solemn tulip]

well try to combine it with your theory to see what you can find out

[fossil shadow]

'Vaiiya Arena Security' so its probably just a wing or product placement meant for THE FINALS

[dull charm]

that would make the series 2000 brainchips that viiya produces and it does suppress thoughts which could mean that the persons brain thoughts could be suppressed by the chip to stop them from waking up

[waxen shard]

Fair.

[molten musk]

Ey, I was looking at this and thought the thing on the head looks kind of like VR goggles? If so, that likely suggests that this is from the meatspace?

[glossy scarab]

I know nothing about The Finals since I'm new. But I find it so funny when someone just disintegrates into money when you kill em. Like imagine passing from old age, and then you just burst into money the second your heart stops lol

[gentle bronze]

not sure if the name means anything (besides maybe -sun as the logo seems to have one)

[agile scarab]

what is the lore in this game i might read into it but i dont know for sure if it is worth reading will anyone give me some advie on how it might be

[rugged latch]

that’s the inheritance

[lone path]

That is Just dede's mask

[molten musk]

Ohhh hah so it is...

[tired nexus]

Are you allowed to post theories here?

my brother has a theorie about cns and vaiiya

my brother thinks that cns is a rogue section of vaiiya since cns seems to know so much about vaiiya

[night hamlet]

C.N.S means Cybersecurity needs sabotage

[zinc timber]

Given the level of access CNS has to the system, they could also just have copied and reverse engineered the VAIIYA security solution installed in the system

[deep sparrow]

I smell nerds in here..

[uncut yew]

i was more thinking as CNS is a team/department of Vaiiya creat the need to provide the solution, as MultiCo use TheFinals as big promotion billboard for company (also owned by MultiCo)

[zinc timber]

Could be. We'll see

[finite solar]

its all an inside job

[lone plinth]

remove fck CL40 stupid weapon

[hazy notch]

Why you so mad posting in every channel my guy 💀

[tight pendant]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ay-Iac7W63w?si=ucVCjmveBfZZ119c

Any info on this reel

[coarse sinew]

simply use the APS and kill them

[glossy scarab]

Okay so. How do ppl get up on the bleachers high above the arena?

Also how tf do they build these arenas?

[rare solar]

why bro spamming this in every channel blud cant be this raged

[uncut yew]

arenas are not real its all VR experience
broad to you by Volpe

[worldly crown]

They're virtual is the answer to both of your questions. It's a virtual gameshow.

[modern wraith]

I really like the lore of the game. It’s unique and makes you feel like you’re working towards something greater

[tight pendant]

Are there any weapon skins with visual effects in game?