#📕┇lore
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maybe the Volpe techs put the glitches ingame themself 😄
this
Scotty sad.
What if CNS doesn't get blocked by Volpe's tech cause it IS Volpe's tech
need to grab my edibles brb
What if all of this is actually a publicity stunt
100%.
Volpe has something to do with that.
And try to blocking the things from Sofia Petronelle
Are you breaking the 4th wall now?
Then they'd have to actually play THE FINALS. Just like scotty.
it has been broken many times before, wasnt it
small Scotty inside the cashbox, how cute i see
He posted a location from skyway but I don't believe that was it. The location is different
Scotty knows something but I’m sure June has genuinely got no clue what’s happening
i don't think what is shown in the vignette is from current maps
Scotty is just so rude
I want to know who the announcer is
You can actually hear him while playing
The second location in the lore video is also interesting. It looks like it hasn't fully loaded with these fragmented pillars and missing walls
Maybe they're teasing new map? I mean S2 is also coming SOON™
I’m sure Volpe can block them but they’re not, which is strange
This should be a top down view. at the bottom are what looks like stairs visible
it totally is and it's rotated
That’s why I said there’s something happening from the inside
So this whole thing is basically a promoting thing
Who own Volpe?
@slender gulch If rob just lets us develop the cns story further? Just taking our ideas 😂😂
this is defintely a new map. looks like a library of sorts
Yeah, I was just about to mention that it looks like a library
He already took the sunflowers and added it in S2.
and made already a easter egg out of it, as it seems. yep
we only know about their CEO, Mackenzie Lapis
Mackenzie is close friends with Scotty
They have a new VR Tech they’re working on
So maybe it’s corrupted somehow
here's the top view of this area
Maybe it is a real life location
Maybe it’s London
that is 100% a new location
reminds me of the elevator shaft
It has 4 floors or the other floors haven't loaded yet
the first shown location is actually outside, see the zipline on the left
or at least it could be outside
he would surprise us too with our own theories.
maybe It's LAS VEGAS?
I think I even know where it could be.
Maybe it’s giving us clues on whereabouts the next messages are
i really don't think so, but go check it out
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One of the stairs on the left and right of the first location could be the same stairs as the ones in the library
I will go to check it out now
I think that's the entrance to the library
Spear, you should get your sleep man XD
i got my full 7-8hrs i'm good 
i don't fuck with sleep. learned that with architecture school
this almost looks like an elevator shaft from above 🤔
There are also stairs at the top
amazing videos bro just binged all of the finals videos
Is this a new line from june
"It seems we have some long distance fans, that's right its our UFO's"
maybe we should try turn the picture up side down? Just a random thought
I was just about to type that Outsider 😂 thank you
I don't think I've heard this one, but @jagged delta just told me
when you rotate it you get a better sense of those stairs and tables/chairs
I've played long enough to have not heard it before, but I rather double check if it is new or not
I also don't think I've heard but at the same time I'm mostly blasting people to oblivion so i might've missed a thing or two XD
If it is a new voiceline, it would confirm the moon, map theory
I'll keep you all posted for more stuff I find via Outsider or here
Sure thing man thanks
I haven't heard that one yet.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I JUST SAW THE VID WHATTTTTTTTTTT
thanks! hope you enjoyed them 
Ye
I hope you make a lore video showcasing all the hints that are in the maps or on skins kinda like giving us all the pieces that are present with a theory of your own would make for a banger video anyway keep them coming!
think of now SPEAR did Lore videos and RHB ee videos. but not sure about that
RHB ee ?
RockhoundBlack covers Easter Eggs
i will cover the vignettes but like Samras says, map teases are usually done by RHB
Oh I have not heard about RHB might need to watch his videos next then
go for it, tremendous source for in-depth analysis
But then again if there’s 2 creators a collab would still be amazing to see been a long time since I’ve seen such a great community come together anyway
@tight glacier 
see above
Yooooooooooooooooo
I need more lore! I neeeeed it!
I also enjoy these videos because, I for 1, do not have the patience to research this game while also playing too.. haha thumbs-up to you sir!
For real crazy amount of work goes into this also doesn’t make it easy the fact that we can’t really explore the maps for example by ourselves being in a match constantly
my KD/R is non-existent because of how many matches i spend exploring 
WRs 
nah, i don't search for EEs. just exploring for lore and level design analysis
I had at least 6 team mates trow gas canisters at me because I was looking at the map around me how pretty and smooth everything looks and is…
Yeah it's crazy how easy my casual matches are compared to the ranked matches.
And I play on low settings still this game runs buttery smooth at looks amazing
The Finals lore has to be one of my favourite pieces i cant lie, Its just so interesting to me
You're not alone
I love how this and the easter egg channels are compared to the gen and feedback channel. Those 2 gives me headache lmao
has anyone checked the room in vegas which can be turned into black and white? any meaning of it?
Which room ?
ofc! with that architect brain of yours...
what the HELL is CNS
Cool new sourdough
👍
just a group of friends with too much 
now i imagined the cns as a group of nama tama hackers
let me find a video because i dont know how to describe the room xd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWB9PGHJg34&t=76s okay so at 1:16, that room where sometimes a cashout station is. go in there, shoot the lights on the ceiling, and watch the room turning black and white. as soon as u leave the room, the colors will come back. go back, black and white again
i know what you mean. It could just be a lighting issue but it is interesting
ive recorded it. let me uplaod somewhere
ive seen this originally in someone elses video, they triggered it but didnt know how. so ive tested to see if i can recreate it
that looks really cool even if not intended
I would like to ask, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE DYING FOR AN EXTRACTION SHOOTER GAME
There is not a decent extraction shooter game in the market. The best bet was the cycles: Frontier, IT WAS GORGEOUS but they closed the servers due to cheaters.
Guys can someone send the latest video from cns
I’m also REALLY excited to see a CNS skin if that’s possible
wym not intended?
idk if it’s a bug or not
i was thinking maybe i should go back and try thermal vision in there
do you guys have any idea what cns is
we know it is connected to "central nervous system" and that it/they hack THE FINALS. Not much more
Right?!?
So I was thinking that maybe the S Lies.. is trying to say that scotty Lies about being a former contestant on the show
no use
The consensus is that it stands for Central Nervous System... which could imply that your Nervous system is fighting against some sort of corruption or corporate scandal within the virtual reality program
The glitchy screens that were found in between the videos
They finally showed the SIGNAL FOUND Screen if you watch it carefully
Followed by CNS logo which was shown by random blue flashes towards the end .
*sorry not the logo , i mean the letters C, N and S
Can we pin both lore videos in here?
current S1 Lore Vignettes (compressed for upload)
Discord why you put the latest in 2nd place 
Interesting on how there was numbers and letters that i cant really make out throughout the transmission/video and smth about a writing on the wall
If anybody can, can u pls decode that shi🗣️
Also what does June mean about Scotty competing?🤨
he was a former Contestant in the game show
""BEEN HACKED BY CNS
[SEEK THE TRUTH BEYOND THE WALLS] VOLPE
[ONE NIGHT, THREE DAWNS. SEE THE SIGNS]HOLTOW" ". Were there any ideas for this yet?
Is that what it says?
Seek the truth beyond the walls could relate smth about being outside of the simulation? Or CNS is trying to bait them out of their safe space? Idk smth like that i think
Idk what “One night,Three dawns. See the signs” means tho
Why are embark writers so good
Like the lore between arc and this is kinda insane writing for how little we get
faxx
I booted up the game and I only got a glimpse of the video at the very end cause I was away from my pc
Bro i cant say much but the opening cut scene during arc alpha was insane
glad someone uploaded it here
And their trailers for arc are just insane when you know the context
oh I didn't watch them, is it on yt?
What is Arc?
Arc raiders is the extraction game in the same universe as finals
Its unreleased tho
it’s #easter-eggs related
Is this already solved?
Prob not
“Seek the truth beyond the walls” let us to the “S Lies” message in Monaco. but there are more lore messages in-game. the other CNS broadcast msgs have not been solved yet
Im pretty sure its like a tron situation happening within the world of arc raiders.
@exotic hill video : )
I'm completely new here, is there any information about what the "S Lies" says?
Thank you :D
our current theories point towards “S” referring to Scotty, one of the commentators
South?
If im right CNS are putting up those messages
If I knew how to upload pictures, I could send the screenshots of the messages
U can only upload by rank in the server sadly
no worries, the msgs have been documented in #easter-eggs channel
We don't know that at all 😭😭
no it hasn’t
We do not know that 
this SPEAR guy is a lore hound I'd take his word for it hahaha
Oh i just heard people say that a bunch of times
it’s something we all want but it ain’t confirmed 
yeah I've seen that going around too 😂, I mean it could be true
People theorizing isn't the same as confirmation
There are some crossovers of logos and stuff but I think that's all the sauce
Cns is the finals competitor company ig?
dont ask me how i know this
- scottie was a former contestant (you already know this), but he conspired with volpe to cheat and win, reason i wasn't told
- the games are all simulations, hence the ai voices. in later stages as lore expands, the ai voices will be replaced by real voices
- cns are the good guys trying to expose the games and get evidence on volpe/scottie cheating. and also to expose the other sponsors for wrong doing outside of the simulation
- all the sponsors are in on this, masterminded by mackenzie, ceo of volpe. as for what happens next, you will soon find out 😄
- what happens outside of the simulation is 🤯 and will have heavy influence on the rest of the lore of this game. honestly, what happens outside is crazier than what's in the games
I thought Scotty was one of the good guys😭
Maybe he had good reason to do so
Once, in the world of gaming, a scientist named JVShoot crafted the iconic Goo Gun for "The Finals" game. Obsessed with his creation, he began to believe in its real-world power, leading to reckless experiments and descent into madness. Eventually, his obsession led to his downfall, serving as a cautionary tale about the dangers of losing touch with reality in the pursuit of innovation.
@hollow leaf
so it is hinted that Scotty never competed ( " 'Just like you [Scotty] [needed to compete]. ' ", "S lies" etc.)
https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237 (these are good theories and could end up being true. im doubting someone at embark leaked this info to you as you said in your message before editing it)
definitely a possibility
Guys I think Scotty is all behind it and he will blow up the whole map very soon (live event)!!!!!!!
This theory was provided to me by @hollow leaf
question is, whether S. never did take part in the finals, or whether the finals were a sham in S.'s favour, like @sly turtle suggested
Can someone please explain the lore to me?
i wonder what the channel description is for
But are we going to take part of the "outside of the simulation" in the game or is that just lore-wise?
you will find out soon, don't want to spoil the big story
Now that makes me vibrate with excitement
let's just say that embark is trying out a story that has never been done before in a pvp game
very exciting
S lies mostly white rabbits on seoul
I really do think June is a robot bruh
Do we know if the finals is used to keep "world peace" but corporations use it for who controls the meat space
I love this offline talks! I am excited for the next one!
Wassup, found out lore exists and now I'm here
"They'll have to compete... just like you scotty..." ERGH WHAT DOES IT MEAN?!?!?
For a second I thought I was Scotty
alright so what the fuck is CNE
People think it stands for "Central Nervous System"
Yeah it's still CNS. Always has been
hello
this might be a reference to a ranked tournament its the only thing that makes sense
maybe las vegas
cuz it has neon signs
What the
damn
Scotty had changed lines, he became a bit meaner to June in some of them
the way she overemphasises it. yes.
interesting take
I MISSED THE CUTSCENE WAIT
Are there any more messages in game? Or just the lore video
Hmm maybe for winning a tournament?
2nd one here
#📕┇lore message
there are 4 in-game msgs iirc, like the "S Lies" one in Monaco
Where can I see the messages?
well, we've only found one. they are hidden
Okay so we haven’t found any more since the update?
we haven't found any since the "S Lies" one which was way before the game launched
Maybe in the final match of a tourney the map has a change to show something?
Yeah I will try to do some casual and ranked tourney games tomorrow and see if I there’s any message for winning
just fyi, lore messages and voicelines are two different things
What do you think
ye. i've already discussed earlier that imo, there are 2 locations of a new map being teased in that lore vignette
what if s lies is talking about scotty and how he is lying about his past as a contestant? his contestant past was mentioned in the lore vid
Oh i might've missed that. I've been taking screenshots and checking it out myself. So far...
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The location with the tree and stairs
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This street with the cafe or shop or whatever this is
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The top down view of a building with open area in the middle
I think S lies might be Sofia not Scotty, still it's not confirmed
1 & 2 kinda blend, it's a zoom-out shot
i don't wanna be that guy but for the sake of "lore accuracy" - it's Sofia, not Sophia 😅
You can thank auto incorrect for that lmao
the reason i say it is because the first OSPUZE BP was described as inspired by Argentinian Gauchos, and it could hint towards Sofia being from LATAM
2 kinda looks detailed tho don't you think? You can zoom the screenshot I took you can see a cashier's desk too
yes. what i mean is the camera is zooming out, from 1 to 2 - that's why you can still see the tree in 2
Hmm maybe it's the same street/area
Interesting 🤔
@trail wren are you that YouTuber Guy who makes the finals content? I love it!
The finals Lore?
i am 
same i love ur vids
Maybe we start from this cafe or whatever this is... At the end of the straight road, there's the tree and the two parallel stairs
Sorry my explanation is not good, still learning English lol
Are you going to make a new video for that one cutscene of CNS, the new one?
no worries! i understand what you mean
don't think so. i'll probably make another lore video as we approach S2
I need you and a Cafecito to comprehend what the hell the cutscene implies lol
I will love to see it!
🦆
So y'all take care! It's past midnight so I'm RTB
🦆
I think the biggest takeaway from the new video is how June talked about getting “real fame” and also put a strange emphasis on scotty being a contestant
🤷♂️
Lore channel is having a field day with the recent update
Your videos are top notch, man. I love how consistently you stick to the aesthetic of The Finals, at moments they are so detailed that you seem like someone who has close contact with the devs, specially with the map analysis.
it could be a classic marketing tactic by the show runners. having this "legendary veteran" contestant now turned commentator for the game show can rank up the views and such - but his record could be a lie. also, we don't know June's backstory yet
appreciate the kind words - i studied architecture, that's why my analysis is so detailed 
Are you a real person

I see. Do you also edit the videos all by yourself?
yeah, i'm a one-man show
How long do they take to make? Also, what advice would you give to someone who wants to get into editing videos?
interesting. did you finish the degree? licensed, too?
Nah that ain't no toilet that's a good boy
How dare you call that Labrador a toilet head goddamn
And how TF is this lore?
+1 heavy in team
voice discord
i finished my degree yes, but i did not pursue the career - i wanted to do other things
depends on the video, but i usually spend at least 2 weeks per video. in terms of advice, just work on your craft and storytelling, regardless of the topic
like if as june said messages appearing before the big matches, then there should be someone who doesn't agree with how the finals work, and if theyre way of rebelling is tampering with the software, and thats who or the group that CNS is
JUST LIKE YOU SCOTTY
that phrase keeps coming up
am i looking too much into this singular phrase?
or maybe this scotty isn't who he says he is and that's why they're driving this phrase home, GUILT
He used to be a former contestant
he's a liar!
Yeah maybe
wait scotty says u have to compete in the finals to get famous. maybe scotty faking his contestant background is because he wants more people to join the finals
that fits in with the guilty scotty theory
you make lore videos??? holy shit, thats perfect lmao! ive been wanting to get into the finals lore properly but have no idea what current theories are or things xD
Alright, thank you. Looking forward to the next videos!
I found something probably unimportant, but for a single frame on the Holtow website it says <Ready> I can't put the picture here, but DM me if youu want to see it
@gentle bronze can we pin plz?
yes, it’s been discussed in #easter-eggs there is a thread for Holtow
Asking for the 2nd time, can we please 📌 the lore videos here?
Theres no Justice in this world
OPEN YOUR EYES
OYE
can someone give me a simple rundown of lore?
"deep"
finals gameshow pew pew
cns hacking the gameshow
june is worried
scotty is bing chilling
june thinks scotty is a lil sus (s lies)
m
thank u
s lies
pin this @gentle bronze
spears face right now 
lmfaoo

sorry spear
here's ☕ for you ❤️
I get it. which you do nicely
yo
Who?
not sure
m
M
Didn't the New Lore drop show off what looked like a new map, Soon enough? And also, I bet Volpe has a glitch in the odd system....
didn’t even know there was lore so I’m thankful for that cutscene. now I’m HOOKED
Maybe the s really stands for Swa
I've noticed that June is onto scotty
He keeps avoiding her theories and dodging something
since i did a lot of misinforming earlier, it makes sense
I still think its scotty lies
So it seems to me that Volpe is a security company
Scotty is bing chilling 
volpe creates arenas
in the first video they say "holtow isnt worry" so maybe holtow is also security?
Volpe is the owner of the VR tech used in the game show and the creators of the big jump pads seen in Vegas and Skyway
Oh, is it Holtow? I think. I got them mixed up then.
Ahh... I haven't gotten through your backlog of videos yet. I'll get to that 
Holtow is an insurance company that oversees digital assets, and most likely why June mentioned them regarding the security breach
CNS really just stands for COOL NEW SWA.
Aha, that makes sense
Well I'd think must have some kind of security. Maybe we'll find out which sponsor that is soon enough.
Nah Central Nervous System : )
Is that confirmed?
No lol but maybe
i see people say that
It’s unconfirmed, we dont know what CNS stands for yet
But if their a hacker oragnization the S could stand for Sec because alot of hacker organized crime organizations usually add SEC at the end.
Like DedSec yeah i gotcha ya but what could C and N stand for tho🤨
Corrupted Network Sec? Maybe their goal is just to corrupt the shows network?
You’re onto something hold on
idk im just pointing out it could be a possibility if theres no confirmed meaning yet because groups would use sec because it sounded cool.
People do actually use Sec for hacker groups so it could be a possibility
central nervous system
Central Nervous Swa

That would actually be interesting if it turns out they were a medical group all along, and the messages are just their concern for the contests health and well-being
sCotty'slyiNSec
Their worried about all the ospuze consumption that scotty has had and they wrote s lies because he lies about his ospuze intake to hide the fact that hes extremely addicted and on the verge of heart failure due to his ospuze intake.
They just looking out for ol Scotty
Too much screen time from all these simulated tournaments
Maybe his vocal cords are collapsing from all that talking he does
@ocean arch #easter-eggs message
MAYBE need to "compete" for the general public's attention
The multicorps have all of it
Damn corporations
It’s also interesting that they are putting these cutscenes in front of every player, not just the EE and lore hunters.
Whats ligma
LEAVE ME ALONE PLEASE
You know what you started
Nuh uh
it’s not confirmed, but we know it’s related to it because of Rob “eyeing” the theory - so we’ve been referring to it as such
Oh ok
i agree. i’ve been vocal about the lore not being accessible to all players for a long time - so i was happy to see the first lore vignette when the game launched and the 2 we’ve gotten since. excited to see how they keep developing it further
This is the actual message that Rob confirmed: "and it's more the central nervous system of the internet/servers or something metaphorical like that" #easter-eggs message
so it's a little open to interpretation
Well, I mean... How are they supposed to know?
I'm starting to think that this virtual world isn't being simulated but might be controlled
(this is a joke, that I was gonna make, but nobody would get, so nvm)
although, I do feel like Scotty knows something, and is hiding some kinda important or evil information
just the way he shuts down June all the time, acts like a perfect poster boy, and is never skeptical of what's behind anything
It's interesting that June's voice is the only one that has the echoes on it in the video - they sound different from one another
he feels kinda not real... idk why
in the way he speaks and what he says, not like an AI, but a fake persona
I don't think June and Scotty are in the same room. It's like they are communicating virtually
Scotty as a double agent is leaking the conversation for CNS
I thought June saying "...they'd need to compete, just like you Scotty" almost came across as her saying "I know you never competed"
It seemed a little pointed
hmm interesting
I think that meant, they'd need to compete (like you've competed)
but it also makes sense the way you have put it
It felt like there was a little tension in the comment. Either way, they don't feel united.
They definitely don't, which may actually mean that the company running the games may be divided
what if the company isn't run by humans 🤯
agreed
discussed this with @gentle bronze earlier as well. will be interesting to see why the emphasis though.
quite Arc Raiders-ish...
That would be crazy
maybe they're the same game hehe
two games that merge into each other - that would be freaky, but kinda cool too
I like the idea, suggested quite often now, that Arc Raiders is the reality, The Finals the virtuality of this world.
yeah, I was favouring this for a while, but it almosts seems too obvious to be true now
yeah. bit on the nose
exactly
what would be an interesting variation of that would be this: ARC Raiders | REAL WORLD | THE FINALS - so both games refer to a linked alternate reality but they never overlap properly
Disney would be buying the whole suite off Embark/Nexon within hours haha
this is why the thought irks so. haha 😸 . not niche enough for this special thing we so enjoy
scotty is a raid boss with 50000 health
slowly pulling out stun gun
Put that away
people use stun gun wrong
Ok, I dont know if you guys had seen this or not, but you can see someone's face and body in the latest 1.9.0 patch video
is that from the reddit post? If so, we looked at that frame and it's not a face, it's just numbers overlapping that look a bit like that.
lmfao thats my post
Idk i feel like you can clearly see someone's tshirt and an arm
You can see it here
this thirst for lore...we need silksong.
can you draw an outline? i cant see anything
so here's what it looks like when viewed on YouTube - it does look a bit like a face, but when you actually zoom in on the video you can see it's just overlapping numbers forming that shape
ah i thought you were trying to point out the face in the first image not the lack of one lol
haha yeah - 'look at this nothing' is what I was showing
bro the face appears for the split second thats why the number around it are in the same position
I imported the video into Premiere and stepped through it frame by frame - what I show above is the same frame - it's just the scale that makes it look a bit like a face and arm.
Here's the two side by side - the one you posted and the same but from Premiere at full resolution - YouTube's version definitely looks more like a face and arm, but when you zoom into the Premiere version, you can see it's not.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Imagine having to store millions of videos in your servers. It explains this weird compression
Well yeah but still
Don't get me wrong, it totally looked like a face to me when I first saw the image. It just isn't though when you zoom in with good resolution.
Dunno why, but this seems like a reflection to me
That would be dope!
yeah, it definitely has that appearance to it at that scale
Scotty IS CNS
I mean what? who would say that?
But scotty isn’t CNS tho? He used to be a competitor so there’s no way he could Be CNS
nani
right? as in they were facing a big ass monitor and they can see the hacking in front of them
Are you guys talking about that video of June and scottie talking? I got that earlier today.
i mean that would make sense since they are commenting on whats going on in the area, which means they prolly use multiple screens etc
Yeah
Us the player is probably CNS and that’s how they’ll introduce real life sponsors tbh
Maybe they can see what they players are seeing through multiple screens.
probably
June seem's quite dismissive of CNS, like whatever it is very amuture-ish
also did anyone else find it strange how Scotty mentioned how CNS cant outsmart "The Finals", as if its some sort of AI
or maybe he just refered to it as one big entity
INsane!
lore
Pure speculation, but I was thinking about the entire show being simulated by an AI. That also means Scotty and June. If you imagine that the AI was fed all the data from human-organized shows, it's possible that manipulation or opportunism of some shows wasn't clearly annotated during training. As the AI develops, it might understand an activist group or manipulators as a classic part of a show because it's so common, or something similar. So maybe the AI thinks that a good show needs an antagonist group like CNS, which makes sense in that the AI represents the "Central Nervous System" and would therefore play the hacker group itself. If you consider that "s Lies" is written on the wall and "Scotty" says at the beginning of a round that the arena has been newly built, then, purely theoretically, the message "s Lies" should have been generated with the arena data set. You could say this intervention was done by CNS, but their previous hacks of the show involved elaborate screens. Additionally, if June said, "I know you never competed" that would reinforce this theory once again, as "Scotty" would just be the ideal training data set for a commentator who was already a successful participant, as many commentators were in reality. It could be just my imagination, but these are my initial thought.
So you're saying this game is the matrix?
This game is actually Matrix: Ready Player Tron
The matrix is new to me, but did the people in it go into a virtual world on their own using VR technology? Are "players" able to choose between meatspace and the virtual world in the matrix?"
Have you guys ever wondered the location of the tree in the background of these videos? Looks like its inside a hallway with glass walls on one side while it slowly pans backwards as the video progresses. Just like the small garden with the tree on Skyway Stadium inside the Med-Tech building. The map is sponsored by Volpe.
We could hear Scotty talking about asking their CEO of the pre-release of their map in the previous lore video.
Hmm interesting
Idk I think people go too deeply into the lore
It's just some futuristic eSports game
Has anyone ever seen any messages or glitches ingame?
Nope
i was kinda curious if the break the walls thing could have anything to do with some of the cannons on the maps that face towards the boarders but thats probably a stretch
Maybe especially with the quote (S lies) which could probably mean South
might go around tryna shoot them all next time im on one of those maps 🤔 ive forgotten which map has them, maybe monaco?
Yeah, i think. Its the map with that big ass church
I think that's a location of a new upcoming map. The second location looks like a top down view of a library. The first location could be the entrance to the library, the stairs could line up.
Kinda looks like a japanese maple tree so it could possibly be set in japan next season (obviously)
But why would there be a library in japanese map? I mean, its weird question that because it could take place in anywhere in japan, but I think it would take place in Tokyo or some other popular place
Maybe its not about new map, but its just some place, like the red room the contestants run into right before start of the match
The room is being shown right after they go offline, so they are trying to show us whats behind the arena, or more like, in between or the arena and reality
I thought of that because they have a better way of teasing new map, i mean everyone knows that there will be a new map, and showing it in such weird way while Scotty and June are talking about something totally else, is idk not right, but from another side it could be anything :D
Maybe but what does the tree mean?
Hmmm, back to CNS (Central Nervous System), maybe tree symbolises the fact that everytime something is being destroyed in the arena, the simulation feels it or something, and maybe its somehow connected to something. Like trees dont have a nervous system but when its cut or damaged, it still sends electrical signals
but i think in order to make it look like it symbolises something, it should have been bigger
I mean it is weird how the tree is standing out, theres only empty geometric objects all over, yet tree is just there, looking fine
Im wondering if one day someone will break a glass window and realize its all fake like in Prey
I don't really understand this. There are libraries in japan/tokyo... But I also don't think that this map is set in japan.
Nah, I agree there are libraries in japan, but as I said i dont think they are showing us upcoming new map, but if it is, then I dont think what they are showing is japan, so either its not a new map, or it is but definitely not japan
I think it's a new map since no current map location looks like that hallway with the tree or that library.
Id say all of their maps have unique style
Vegas - Horizontal 90%
Seoul - Mix of Horizontality and Verticality
Monaco - Vertically
Skyway Stadium - Mix of Horizontality and Verticality
so I dont think new map will be same as one that exists, more likely another mix, but judging by how alot of people didnt like vegas, I dont think it will be similar
For me it's
Vegas: Indoor fights
Seoul: Skyscraper open fights
Monaco: house-to-house fights
Skyway: Mix between Seoul and Monaco (since they are literally the same assets)
Would the spectators you see in the stadium be real ones or fake and the contestants are the only alive ones
But still honestly, After all I dont think they are teasing new map, more like just showing whats between arena and reality
They are virtual
I think they are having some holographical pattern on them from time to time, so either everyone is fake, or they are somehow virtually also connect into the arena but only as a spectator
Well it seems like anyone can be contestant
Would multiple matches be going on at once but only people are watching the big ones like Scotty said that are targeted by cns
So just like how we play the game there are multiple matches at once, hundreds of not thousands
Could be, I mean even the inside arena announcer becomes sort of more alive, with all of his jokes and entertaining behaviour, and we can see him in the trailer, well seems pretty human so i think atleast he is a real human. You can see him in the The finals launch trailer, at 0:22
So if he is a human, why would he try entertain the viewers if they are fake? Only if its to make contestants think they are actually being watched
The video also said that’s it’s drawing the contestants, so the message is not just the broadcast
But also the contestant interface
If there were no viewers holtow, iseul-t, etc. wouldn't sponsor the game.
Yeah, honestly i dont think the world of the finals is so empty, so one thing for sure, its more likely that the spectators are real, aswell as the ingame announcer, but why every time in scotty and june videos, scotty's voice turns like he is a bit away from microphone, but june sounds just too robotic
Yeah, june is weird. She is also portrayed as the analytical type and that she knows all the rules and data in the finals.
And we know that scotty used to be contestant, we heard about that in 3 sentences already, so they keep letting us know only single fact about scotty = he used to be contestant
i think there is purpose for that
Well earths population would of increased dramatically by then
But this could also be a lie. Since we have 2 occurences of "S Lies" ingame.
So maybe there is enough
It could be because the voices are AI generated by embark. That could be why the voices sound a bit different. Or maybe not.
the one on the wall in monaco.
And the locations of the White Rabbits
are supposed to spell S Lies
S lies? For real? Weird, I mean i checked this chat from time to time but never seen, can anyone show?
I get that.
#1201288968562552863 message heres the eyed message
crazy
The day before Closed Beta 1 went live, content creators were able to post footage from an event. Creators mentioned the view from the top of the crane in Seoul, and Rob commented “you can see a WR from there.... ._.” and “just something for you to follow..!”.
These were the first clues that there was something to find in the Closed Beta playte...
So like, it implies that Scotty is lying about being a contestant?
Some think that
It could also be Sofia Petronelle the CEO of 
Those are the only 2 characters with s that we know of
The girl on most of the key art has some cosmetics that are not in the game like the nama tama mask, maybe they will be built on more later
there is 2 variants, either they keep contestants know that Scotty used to be a contestant to actually hide something, thus, that easter egg would make sense that its Scotty Lies. or They purposely keep telling us that he is human, i mean, why Scotty's voice is fine, but june's voice just breaks down into robotic one, in these intros?
that's because this channel is very young and all of those discussions happened in #easter-eggs
there are also multiple cosmetics from the beta that we didn't get yet
Maybe you can’t get them because it kind of like only for them like a main character
I think we just have to wait till they get added
we don't know yet for what explicit CNS stands for.
A possibility would be Central Nervous System
Hello all! I’m New here & just wanted to ask if there have been any Easter eggs found that trigger events once shot at or anything akin to how Easter eggs worked in COD Zombies?
There are in game parts and out of game parts to the EE
Awesome thank you!
no worries!
opened the game and got a new cutscene, is there a video of it anywhere I was tabbed out for the first half of it
you can find it high in the chat or in easter egg one, but i suggest just writing in youtube "the finals lore intro 1.9
thank
you reminded me that there was supposed to be a lava event at some point but i guess it was cut
like meteor showers or UFO
check the pinned msgs
there you'll see the current lore vignettes
das why we pin them ❤️
alright so:
-CNS is improving at hacking the show, being able to hack and send messages into big events
-CNS hacks are a regular occurence at this point
-Volpe is a cybersecurity firm/has a cybersecurity branch and is providing to the finals (likely already known I just didn't)
-THE FINALS is itself an organisation and not just a gameshow
-"S lies" isn't referring to Scotty lying about being a contestant
CNS may well be linked to Volpe in some way considering that their messages aren't blocked by whatever tech the latter has in place for the show
Maybe S lies is June's way of telling contestants that Scotty is lying about something (not necessarily about him being a contestant or not)
How are June's and Scott's conversations recorded and who's hacking the game to put it on contestants launch screen
Certainly a gameshow must run smoothly and contestants like us shouldn't even know or care about hacks.. so maybe June is the one trying to warn us?
with the conversations being recorded it's likely just that the mics are still running even when the broadcast goes offline, as to why we can hear them as contestants CNS might have managed to get their hands on the raw recordings - which honestly feeds into it and volpe being linked since THE FINALS itself provides its own security, and volpe as a security company would hire hackers to do penetration testing on systems they set up
okay but what if it's just like a normal lore video
okay I phrased that wrong
Maybe, but it is fact that once match is over, microphones keep running, they are just disconnected from stream
I still think about one thing:
In every finals video when it start glitching, there is "The Finals" and it's logo, but in few frames "The Final" turns orange and then changes to underlines so we get "________S
"
what if it's not what the people in-lore see
but just a lore video, (so they are not being spied on)
Then why would they bother changing june's voice? Just a thought haha
True, good point
I wonder tho, why would CNS want to extract 2 recordings where they talk about suspicious hacking and messages? Like CNS wants us to know about the hacking and about CNS themselves?
Oh wait, misunderstood that one
also in the last video when Volpe logo appears, at the first frame it's glitchy and have orange parts, but orange is Holtow's color
just to see what they know about them or how many problems they're causing ig?
again how do we know they are being recorded
Yeah but there relaying it to US
SNUKE official lore when?
They want US to know about it~
again you're treating it like that video was actually sent to all contestants in-lore
Yes
I think that's not true.. I really really feel like Scotty, June, would know by now if all the contestants were being beamed their voice logs (but they don't acknowledge it at all)
Then how is it being related to us
because it's a lore video
Yes but we as contestants are literally opening the game in our headset and seeing it
Its part of the game.exe... that's why I assumed
assuming we are in the lobby as such
Sasha has a point tbh
bro not all the UI is in-lore 😭
it depends how you see it tbh
wanna see the lore implications of the akm having 36 bullets in the mag rather than 30
I think we aren’t contestants in the video tbh
the Contestants don't have Steam or Embark IDs 😭
oh no steam absolutely still exists in the far future
We are contestants
I think the border of us is us playing the game, thus we are the contestants playing as them, so we are sort of them
And it is not confirmed, that the players are stuck in the game, or am inwrong?
and the main menu and hud, everything is part of it
look, Scotty and June previously say the hacks are minor. There's absolutely no way they wouldn't acknowledge that all the contestants are being broadcasted their own conversations
if the next lore video drops and they still don't mention that they are compromised, then I think I'd be right in thinking that
gaben is a fucking brain in a jar controlling a supercomputer with the 63rd valve index kit revision hitting the shelves, and tf2 still hasn't received a major update since jungle inferno yet is still inexplicably in the top 20 of steam charts
yeah those videos are probably just a CNS guy listening in on them
which, again, cybersecurity specialists

Well I think you understand what I mean
you mean hackers
Nothing points against the assumption that we are not seeing everything from a contestants pov. Including the multi bucks store and UI cuz that's just an interface
sKilL iSsuE 🧤
nothing is true. everything is permitted
*the Hashashin and then the "Genealogy of Morals"
what cns stand for?
Central Nervous System
thanks king
What Rob confirmed was: “and it's more the central nervous system of the internet/servers or something metaphorical like that" #easter-eggs message so there’s a bit of wiggle room for what it could actually stand for.
Could anyone catch me up on what’s all been found and the new messages?
yo we have a lore now?
always have
I hope they arent stuck cause then dyeing in the Finals means they die in real life? Also sometimes Scotty will say "as we power down the simulation, lets take a moment to congratulate our new winners!" and "its lights out in the Arena, just as the spotlight swings to our winners!" suggesting the whole experience goes offline with the show, I imagine the contestants leave whatever interface connects them to the show, like esports PCs get shutdown after the event, and the gamers go back to their hotels
whichever way, the stakes will be high
true
Missed gif opportunity haha
green contestant issues
sweet
Where can I read all the lore released/decoded/discovered so far? (Brand new to this discord, sorry if this is answered somewhere already)
what if scotty is the real antagonist and cns is the good guys or what if scotty is a cns plant
so thats why scotty is never skeptical of cns saying theyre glitches while june is skeptical, saying she doesnt drink ospuze and scotty is a plant who gets intel for cns
I think cns are the good guys and the finals in general is a game show where your plugged in and you can only get out until you win like that’s how you get famous for winning kinda like the hunger games except virtual
I remember a voiceline at the end of the game where Scotty says something along the lines of "Its time to unplug the contestants and tally up the results"
I think need's to make a google doc for all the evidence found so far
easier to track info that way
he said that they will have to compete to when fame
no no, im not talking about the second lore teaser
im talking about a voiceline he has at the end of a match
THE FINALS TAKES PLACES IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE LIKE A MULTIVERSE BUT ITS ALL VBIRTUAL. AND THERE IS GOO
THEIR IS GOO
GOO
I made a summary, not sure if it's good tho
#📕┇lore message
Cool
SO MUCH GOO
this might be stupid, but has anybody else noticed the out of bounds damage is an odd number?? it just feels out of place. maybe it has meaning?? (i dont remember what it is, but I think it's like, 37,??0)
Ayo?
The contestants are goomans
Fr
just a small detail, Scotty and June are commentators. there is another character known as the Announcer that we hear throughout the arenas at times
Yeah I should change that
How about now
Hows it going yall
maybe not it being odd but the number could definitely mean something
that's what I meant lol
The crazy drunk guy that echos through the arenas
I've also noticed that voice during my games, they usually say stuff like "The Tough Shells have been eliminated!" and "The Socialites just stole a cashout!", they definitely sound more like a genuine person speaking than the AI voices of Scotty and June, but their voice is so low that it does not even appear in the subtitles.
Is scottie and June supposed to be ai? Like are they actually ai in game? I always knew they were ai voices but I thought they just did that instead of actual voice actors.
I could hear his voice when I read this lol
I mean scotty was a contestant so...
However the new clip is making me wonder if all the contestants are AI
"It can't outsmart the finals"
"If CNS wanted to earn real fame, it would have to compete, just like you scotty"
Is this like matrix but ur not forced to be in the virtual reality??
Do you seek the truth?? Use the crane in skyway and escape beyond the walls!
FUCK ALL WALLS! FUCK ALL WALLS! FUCK ALL WALLS!
Wait does that actually work
Let me explain:
"Meat space" (In-Universe nickname for real life) is what is presented as either being dystopian or just overall shit, so people play and interact using VR (Probably Volpe being the main provider), the finals is a game show that is ran within VR and you can tune into to watch from the big ring above the arena.
You must be a heavy main
not really. Im a Medium main
Nice
is that how your supposed to break construction wall?
The truth will set you free!
Is the vr like the vr we have now? Or does it like suck your conscience in completely where you're in like another reality?
or hear me out - the finals is actually an ai system, the contestants arn't real but dont know that. the meat space is implanted to them as so horrible that they never want to leave. cns is showing the contestants what happening after the show, and trying to help them escape the simulation
Not confirmed but I'd assume the viewers simply have the equivalent of a headset to watch from the stands while contestants either use those very advanced VR threadmil setups or they go into some sort of stasis in Meat space.
I'd say the latter for the contestants considering Holtow insures virtual assets that get damaged mid game like buildings.
or they just watch on normal tv and can switch channels between players and maybe scotty and junes "ghost mode" view
Lore wise that'd be sick but I think it would imply there would be an end to the lore at some point with the contestants escaping like you said, but from a marketing standpoint simply continuing to host the game after the main story is over would feel bland.
yeah, but they could just draw it out indefinitly, or "hire reall contestants" maybe add a PvE gamemode, real contestants vs the AI trying to escape by winning
ofc thats a headcannon no proof at all
Ig we'll have to see, all the cutscenes point to CNS eventually interrupting tournament matches at some point
I made a fanart about this 👀 https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1174706995757056090
Maybe a cutscene may play after the final match where they interrupt the broadcast or sum
i doubt they will impact the game - however embark seems to have a much more... direct method for lore, on top of the much smaller but meaningful things. by that i mean they incorporate it into the game with the cutscenes at the beggining, as apposed to say animatics like valorant
It's better than what overwatch tried to do that's for sure
im not familiar with that, what did they try to do?
Sell 20 minute campaign missions as individual DLCs for around 30 bucks each
They boiled down to just cutscenes
wtf
Alright
Yooo do you guys sometimes get the Offline video when you launch the game? I wonder if its connected somehow when they did the game show or something? I recorded the Offline video few times already...
is that not the inteneded way to find it?
Idk man i thought its connected to the lore
it is connected thats just like where its displayed afaik
The mini-cutscenes where Scotty and June discuss CNS hijacking tournament broadcasts play the first time you boot up the game after an update that adds one
Idk why it reminded me kind of ready player one
Btw I have been playing a lot of cyberpunk recently and realized that the real world is also called meatspace in cyberpunk. Neat.
Lmao yeh it's a cool coincidence
Both universes suffer from people spending too much of their time either in VR like in The Finals or watching BDs like in Cyberpunk
@jolly marsh 
and spamming can also get you muted 🙂
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Lmao okay
What's your mewing streak?
Are you sure about asking that though?
What do you mean
Someone explain the lore to me my monkey brain can't process it
Nevermind i watched a YouTube video
801 years
just saw one of those side building screens glitch, cant post vids yet so ill post tonight...
maybe CNS is trying to hack monaco first, lemme know if someone else has already seen this
Hey idk if this has been talked about or not, but something interesting I noticed in the practice zone is in the little dirt and tree section, there is a lamplight and a bench... On that bench is a single rose and a few more roses are on the floor... That on its own would be interesting but I found out that you can pick up this rose... I just don't know why they'd do that
yes, it's related to #easter-eggs
Oh, I see well nvm then 🤣
The official soundtrack is finally out, I wonder if we can extract some lore out of the tracks titles
rlly hope this game blows up in ss2 so all yall effort dont go to waste, been reading many interesting stuff from yall ngl
definitely related. everything is connected at the end of the day
Yeah and I like how Rob explained that he and Gustav wrote the lore together but kept some secrets for each other regarding details
1273 BC
Yo ur video r swag
I think June is part of CNS, I think she is Odilia the trickster, idk if the number 96 is a clue or key to anything, gonna dig deeper in to this
Time to figure out lore while listening to the Soundtracks
Anything new about lore?
Any speculations?
I love how one of the songs are labelled “Finally Alive”
June has no clue what’s going on
Anyone else simping for june?!?
Yet she informs us of the hacks
She’s not informing us
She tells us everything
You do realise they go offline when they talk right?
Someone is leaking their conversations, it’s not her
And?
There’s no “And”
It’s just not her
She’s talking personally with Scotty not with us
What's the point you trying to make saying they talk offline and convos leaked?
That's the and?
She's AI
What if we saw some type of in game event at the end of season one?
She’s not a AI in game
She's the program
Well you might not be entirely wrong nothing wrong about speculations but I really don’t think it’s her
What new video? Who’s vid
RockHoundBlack on YouTube
When he mentions the effects on the voices might suggest they're in two different locations or one isn't real
I’m just sure she’s real, I’m sure that’s just effects they added
there is no evidence towards June being Odilia - they are currently 2 different characters
and hopefully they remain that way, it'd be better character-wise
Yeah those are definitely 2 different people
i do like RHB's theory about Scotty and June not being in the same place broadcasting - and perhaps one of them not being a "real person". that would be far more interesting than the two of them brushed off as AI
Yeah true
It would be interesting but I’m sticking with it’s just effects because she doesn’t sound like that when they’re commentating
i've been sticking to that as well
And well when they’re “offline” they must sound different anyways because they’re not live anymore
And yes she did sound ominous when she said “just like you scotty”
Because she’s maybe onto scotty because he’s acting strange
the main reason for it to be SFX is that these are hacked transmissions - we're listening to them through an interface
Yeah that’s true, we’re not supposed to be listening to their conversations
what they are talking about is what's important imo
Maybe the recordings are from Scotty's location/PC, thats why his voice is clear while her isnt
Also think about it
June is British - Scotty is American they’re most probably not in the same location
This whole game has intrigued my brain lol normally I love lores so far this game has beat all of them
It has such fantastic lore
Because something like this will happen in the future
The Worlds Greatest Game Show
Is there any significance to the number 96? Always thought it was strange that battle pass stopped at 96 and Odilia is the skin at 96
i also was thinking something like that too
cause it just feels weird for a battle pass to just stop at 96 specifically, right?
Exactly
brother how do i join voiceee chat
K
That's some pretty deep lore.
Yo, who else is excited about CNS modding in a new map next season?
New teaser looks like a mod map to me, because it's shown in hacked transmission and looks very fantastical which contrasts with The Finals style of wanting to trick us that this is reality.
Also these teasers are all about glitches - small changes made by CNS, so it's to be expected next season we will see what these changes accumulate into. As the changes are small, map is made of cubes and reused assets, but the tree seems to be different.
the SHADOW FLOCK is involved. stay vigilent
k
ok, i dont know if im stupid or what! i just opened the FINALS after det new opdate, and to a new opening, where it said offline and scotty and june talked about some campany, money and have to try harder! is this just me or some secret to the lore. EDIT: yeah sorry i just found it some other place
some of the titles of the official soundtrack (#game-announcements message)seem suggestive, possibly supporting some of the interpretations until now:
- Finally Alive,
- (You Wouldn't Be Here) Without Us,
07. Plugged In, - Transcending Realities,
x10. Let It Breathe.
Yeah, SF being the last reward in the season pass makes me think that’s a lead into S2
Personally I think the Shadow Flock has something to do with CNS. Like they realized that there was some shady things going on in the finals and left, and that now there trying to reveal it to the rest of the world and contestants.
the first posse/ band of contestants in the spotlight of the show. the choice seems specific.
5 and 9 are sus, but let it breathe is one of Ospuze's advertisement things.
interesting
6 is just straight up weird. ngl
could be addressed to the lying Scotty?
Maybe, either way any guesses on who "us" is? Maybe the Finals or the Sponsors?
the hosts/ sponsors, Shadow Flock, CNS?
hi
Were probably gonna have to wait till season 2 to find out.
im sus about odilia because she uses throwing knives and vanish bomb and has a revolver in her art
What if shadow flock never existed and was made up by the Finals?
And thats why they have the rights to her skin.
I found a neat patches stall in vegas, no eggs/lore here but it had the stickers you can put on weapons on it
96 is Odilias Team number
how do we know?
UbTyMxg7
thx for sharing, ,.
Perhaps there's something weird going on in TF and Scotty is a whistleblower
7 is 100% a reference on how this game plugs in contestants into the enviroment, like how Scotty say's in a voiceline at the end of a round "It's time to unplug our contestants and tally up the results!"
also, has anyone done any research into the sponsors?
I think its confirmed that VOLPE are the suppliers of the VR tech that contestants use to get into The Finals
and Scotty may be acquaintances with the CEO of VOLPE
as stated in the wiki:
Scotty: "...and so I asked Mackenzie for a pre-release version and--"
June: "Scotty, we're on air!"
Scotty: "Oh! Uhh...welcome back to THE FINALS, the world's greatest gameshow!"
in the literal or in the symbolic sense?
literal, more like "plug into the matrix", in this case, the finals.
will be interesting to find out
also, going back to the second lore teaser, to the last June line "Just like you, Scotty."
I think that June may be trying to say something along the lines of "You're only here because of The Finals, because they gave you a chance"
I may be wrong, but that's what I think about the line.
also, can we talk about the fact that Scotty is most likely the announcer from the start of the launch trailer?
How about players being stuck in their VR Headsets because of hackers and the only way to get out is to win at the game because Sword art online original story
yes, since the Alpha and we’ve added the info to the Wiki – we still haven’t updated with the latest vignettes tho
according to the info in the Brand Guidelines, the Announcer and the Commentators are separate characters
ahhh, I see.
and when you win the tournement you turn become an announcer easy peasy lemon squeesy because scotty used to be a contestant remember lore lore lore
Just because Scotty used to be a contestant doesn't mean that he got his spot by winning a tournament
also, I imagine a lot of contestants have won a tournament
also kinda intresting how the achivement of winning a round without dying is called "Just like Scotty"
perhaps Scotty was so good that he became an commentator
Scotty used to be a contestant?
yeah, its pretty much confirmed by now.
from the second teaser to the achivement name
yes, same. and thats why players are stuck in virtual reality and cant take their headsets off or theyl die
because sword art online
but the contestant's get unplugged
so I think they do have a choice
where you read that tho
Scotty literally has an endgame line
where he says that the contestants are being unplugged and the results need to be tally'd up
sure...
is that really the lore?
you missed the new video though talking about hackers innit
whats the video called?
yall need to go search in your install files cough cough
maybe youll find some clues. hint hint
that doesn't anwser my question
are you talking about the second teaser??
in the 1.9.0 update?
the clues bro
I littreally told ya
The hackers aren't necessarily trying to hack for pure malice
They're trying to hack to send messages, dig out the truth about something and expose something
Also, there is a song missing in the playlist on spotify. If yall havent noticed.-
Which one
there is a song missing.
Abhh
The credits one
its the best song
The order of the songs don't make 100% sense
"In The Finals, there are no second chances—only the relentless pursuit of victory."
1 - plays on the intro/outro of every full ranked game
2 - lobby music (queuing and not queuing)
3 - matchmaking music
4 - waiting for players music (between games)
5 - lobby music (you lost mid game maybe)
6, 7, 8 ,9 - 4 rounds in a ranked match. The idea of the naming being suggestive too.
10 - let it breathe (like an outro)
Idk I'm tryna make a story out of it
If you look at it sorted backwards the first few make sense
3 "Destroyer" like you're killing it
2 THE FINALS (the final round)
1 the music is what plays when you win (or lose) the final round
Nothing new
CNS hacking blah blah blah
isn't there if you take off your VR headset you die?
I left the titles out which I found less suggestive. but thx nonetheless. I checked the post due to this and noticed that Discord changed the numbering of the song "Let It Breathe" to "9.", instead of "10.". edited
only not locked file here is billboard video :\
Can someone explain what's happening
check pin
theres bink files of almost every video in the game
what messages are the hackers writing?
Incessant "your mom" jokes.
it says "CNS cant outsmart the finals" maybe the finals is an AI? or an organization instead of just a gameshow
Or a test for something 
possibly
yall ever thought of the alien lore in the finals ?
i've always assumed the alien stuff was generic showbiz nonsense for the event, honestly, and that's further backed up by how over the top the captain set looks
You realize that the aliens are more interested in destroying the arena more than the contestants
"alien invasion" bro what are you invading? The debris?
They're terraforming.
mfw i'm an artificial intelligence designed to replicate an alien invader and my sole purpose in life is to destroy the arena we're trying to "invade" and then fuck off
meanwhile orbital laser on its way to pinpoint your exact location
scotty revealing my entire fucking address to the rest of the arena because i slightly glanced at the cash box
Imagine you try to sleep irl but then god is like no. Orbital laser time.
The Finals being AI was my theory too, pretty plasuible I reckon
-;-;
Anyone find anything about CNS writing on walls in tourneys?
Yes
It's called lightning
It's the god ray of doom
Yo has anyone noticed anything in semi finals comp matches
nope
that "just like you scotty" line makes me think that they're both sentient ai made to run the show.
I always thought it's some kinda entity then a show. Ofc artificial but seems to have more control and influence then i initially believed
do you guys think we'll see the casters face one day ?
guys do u notice in the latest lore video, there are some scene glitches that actually shows a new map?
I disagree. Scotty was a contestant. But the other one was suspicious
I got it. CNS are hacktivists trying to stop the idea of connecting yourself to virtual reality through central nervous system devices and Scotti is a liar about being a former contestant because he's actually AI.
Well... the finals voice overs are actually AI generated. For real real.
Breaking the fourth wall kek
Yes
ddamn idid not even noticed a lore existed what😂
lore = game get hac
they are just getting started
I tried searching in every corner in every map for signs and hints. Even named myself "I SEEK TRUTH BEYOND THE WALLS". Another enemy player even followed me around to "search" for it. Guess what i found? Nothing
When the lore said CNS messages appeared in the big matches. I think its only in tournaments but im too scared to try
who tf is CNS? the news?
helloooooooooooooooooooooo
there are other lore message hidden in the maps as well
I've seen them, but it leads to no where unfortunately
there's like 4 and we've only found 1
btw how do i share images here? I need to show something. It might be something but doesnt seem like it
Show on dms
What is the lore of this game
Has matpat made a lore explenation yet for this game?
Why are you scared
Wdym you only found 1 lol
the msgs are hidden in different places around the maps. we found the "S Lies" behind a wall beneath Construction Site in Monaco, for instance
Can someone explain the lore to me
What about the statue
what statue? there's plenty of those and don't necessarily apply to lore. some of them are EE others simply recreations of IRL
Ima go home tonight and walk through the entire maps
Ima spend 5 hours looking for messages. Just so I can be in the wiki
I have seen secret messages in the Seoul map
Same
share and we can confirm - we've been at it since the Alpha mostly in #easter-eggs
I think the secret messages are hintingto future classes in the game
Bcs its ranked man. I dont wanna be an asshole and ruin someone elses progress
I think the lore is that this is a simulation
Like a heavy that's small? Or a medium that's fat? Lol jk jk
Not sure if its lore or not but some things I have picked up on through playing the game is that I think Scotty was a Finalist, their a trophy on PSN also associated to him "just like Scotty" where you basically just can't let your player die. This paired with a message at the start up leads me to believe that he was a contestant (if the game outright says this I haven't heard it)
One message removed from a suspended account.
Another fun lore type thing I've been thing about is the "glitch" thats leaking into the game makes me think that scotty is writing hidden messages on the walls that are maybe like a scattered blueprint on how other players can escape the facility and maybe he's trapped there against his will, all just a made up theory but when the girl says they are hackers, he seems slightly irritated and calls it a glitch, or maybe she's the one trying to get out and leaving clues for a rescue idk
yoo
hey can you elaborate
possibly
Is t:ger on the Fizzy Tiger skin a new brand?
One of the announcements you can hear in game is scotty commenting "the trained eye of a former contestant and all that" confirming that he was a contestant.
and when you win a match without dying you get an achievement called "Just like Scotty" or something
On the "Combat Credentials" charm is "Contestant {your gamertag}". This kinda confirms that we are a contestant and not a player that controls 6 different contestants.
This could also mean that other contestants can have multiple loadouts. This would explain why one of Odilia's skins is for a medium weapon.
who tf is odilia 💀
Iconic ex-contestant who's skin u can unlock when filling out the battle pass
ohh right, comes back to me now'
isnt it only her face tho? wdym medium weapon skin
crow's memory
though she does use throwing knives in official art
which further backs up the idea that the ingame customization system is essentially what the contestants themselves are using in the cockpit
yes, this was also first established with the Volpe Boxer outfit which features the player gamertag on the back
Yeah, but I like that on the charm is "Contestant Nova" and not just "Nova" like on the Boxer outfit
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Ah I never knew this very cool 😎
Joking?
I would also like to know, is this the female commentators name? Scotty doesn't really call her by her name much I think
June, she usually speaks during rounds and her name is mentioned there too.
Ah thats her name, Thanks
also, the achivement for winning a round without dying is called "Just like Scotty"
@quartz karma yep 😎
oh, I didnt read that message lmao
It went off my head for a second and then came back hahah
imagine if the launch trailer is actually canon in The Finals universe, like that's a way that they get new contestants to compete, by advertising how cool it is, and that would mean that even the advertisment got hacked by CNS.
the most recent cutscene says it i think
You are probably right 👍
I got a theory:
What If June is Scottys Girlfriend?
Maybe
Yo I we're joking but now that somebody also thinks Like that, it could be possible!
Perhaps they could also Just be Friends, but I Personally would want to know the both a Bit more in the Second Season, They Sure got both a Nice Backstory (Very much Scotty)
I think June is dead and Scotty turned her into ai
Yeah, if what we know about him is true.
That is a dark twist I havent heard before.
What if neither of them are real and it a matrix situation where the contestants are all being forced to play the games without knowing that they are property of the Discovery Corp.
All I know is I want to see Scotties face already.
And they worked both together and got expierience
I Made a Fanart about both, but cant Post
Maybe they were both part of Shadow Flock and June is Odilia and Scotty is the heavy.
Good Idea
But it Needs to be 3 in a Team so:
Odilia wanted to continunate Playing in the Finals and June and Scotty chosed to be the commentators? But they were all in the Same Team
What I want to know is if anyone can play in the Finals or if they have to sign up like Esports in real life.
Good movie, but the book is 100 times better. I definitely recommend it.
I just wish we got more official lore from Embark.
do we have Las Vegas map?
like...
map
my game crashes after every match, could it be the sign from CNS that i should stop playing it?
My game literally just crashed but it was on Monaco. I had like 8 frames for the first minute of the game than it all stopped😭 .
I've been thinking that there's something that can be found only on ranked matches
dont stop playing the finals
mb unranked tournaments?
Tournament has 3 matches and ranked has 4 right?
yeah, but it would be unfair to make us seek for secrets and lose points
I remember June saying something about "the messages don't appear at random" I'm thinking not on quick play. Then says "they only appear on the big games" so ranked or unranked.
One of the messages that CNS leaves is something about 1 night and 3 dawns. Only ranked has 4 matches
It says 1 night 3 dawns, see the signs. While the commentators are talking
what if one night means one match and three dawns are 3 rounds
or one 3 dawns could mean 3 contestants
also cns wrote "seek the trough beyond the walls"
But there are day cycles on the maps so it could also be that.
I'm kind of thinking there might be a certain criteria that needs to be met to find some of the stuff. Maybe it 1 night map then 3 dawn maps and in the 3v3 there could be something that you can only see there
maybe only in... the finals
The 🐇 need certain conditions to see them like the range from them. So why not this?
Interesting, I did this one time but didn't notice that name of the exact achievement. Cool to know. 
On the billboards we can see 3 different people, one man and two girls,it could be scotty, omelia and... June?
Hi lore people
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