👂┇game-feedback

[quick coyote]

I literally disclose that I have disabilities and you com here acting tough and insulting me!. The only skill issue here is ur dad to dumb to use a cundum with sadly you as result. Hope he learned his lesson 🙏
Speaking of you're parents, they are probably considering stepping out of life for putting a troll like you on the world.
I am 1000% sure you won't have the balls to say it to someone's face. You should act tough to me in person. I wonder how much you'd smile after I would be done with ya.
Lil troll hiding behind your little screen to chicken to act tough to people's faces. I wish I could visit you buddy. I'd have you on your knees begging for forgiveness and kissing my feet🖕

[alpine aurora]

Sword doesn't need a nerf you're just bad at the game

[red arch]

i mean with the xp buff, lights who think they can aim swapped from the m11 to it and its much better because they realise dashing and hipfiring while holding m1 won't work anymore, so personally i think the xp buff is good for the game

[uncut gull]

Next TheFinals season 7 weapon lineup idea:
light: GLOCK 18c akimbo
medium: FN P90/UMP45 (first medium SMG)
heavy: SPAS12(shotgun with speacial bullet)/ BRT 50 cal BMG (first heavy sniper, high dmg but slow movement & reload speed)

[humble lance]

This is sure to help improve the quality and mechanics of The Finals

[weak carbon]

Let the turret grow legs and walk around to shoot people that are hidding

[sleek forge]

should be deleted cuz it's bad design with dash but oh well

@quick coyote if it's WT that's just pubs, don't let the rewards fool you into thinking otherwise. No sbmm should ever be in pubs, only ranked. Also emeralds and rubys are not compareable in skill level.

Just because someone got a high rank doesn't mean they should be punished with long waiting times in PUB games (which is what WT is)

[candid grotto]

Cinnamon roll

[cobalt tinsel]

The Finals

[viral heart]

Add a history tab so we can see past games and stats

[proven crown]

The bow needs some love. What are you waiting for?

[vapid valley]

It just had a buff like a week before s6 did it not?

Plus the bow is like one of the best light weapons if u know how to use it

[narrow spade]

I think we give heavy a triple blade weapon that is wielded like Zoro from One Piece. We need more swords in this game, they're the only good part

[round isle]

Please add 3rd person clamber thanks 🙏

[fallow gust]

Add more weapons with unique mechanics that require practice. I think this would make people more interested in sticking with the game, playing, and grinding.

[fathom tiger]

NEVER do this world tour again, FIX STEALING THROUGH WALLS

[steep anchor]

I think without SBMM they are likely to get punished by the game dying in a couple of years

[supple dust]

nerf repeater and sword

[slender pine]

can we nerf the sword already please

@umbral swift didnt ask for your opinion on the topic

[novel wadi]

Eh that would get boring and nobody would sponsor the game (no offense to embark, I love this game but it’s just too small and unknown)

[umbral swift]

Doesn’t need any nerfs.

[sterile canopy]

ads for real products would just be… well, kind of lame in my opinion. They’re designed to sell the product, not take creative liberties to look cool.

[deep moon]

https://medal.tv/de/games/the-finals/clips/k1oKzbYEJFyScE1cT?invite=cr-MSw2UDIsMjAzNDU4NjAx

[keen turret]

I sure do love my first game of the day being less than thirty seconds long, because I join a game in progress (power shift), and I'm on the losing team.

[tardy mirage]

Please add the option to set specific reticles per gun please. Marvel rivals has it

[dawn valve]

Nerf cerb

Nerf pike slightly

Nerf sword

Revert XP

[fiery crane]

Embark you better fixed the performance or this game will die. Is this really what you want? You keep ruining it every season.

[thick plover]

Whoa this guy is serious be careful so scary anyways. Anyone else miss Bank It if not or if you never played that game mode that's fine but I think Embark should bring it back. Fun season though keep it up Devs

[cinder elm]

Melee weapons (especially sword lol) could maybe not have quick melee? Since you're using melee weapon, might as well use the weapon?

I rather see sword huge nerf for one season than people keep abusing mechanics of it for whole lifetime of the game.

[sullen ridge]

And give light a nuke for balanced gameplay 😂

[sick raft]

bah bank it when svp

[daring fossil]

are you guys ever going to fix the sonar grenade permanent wallhack bug? like I don't understand why it's still in the game, go in a match with logging, turn on dev mode and spam recon grenades until the entire opposite team is permanently pinged and then debug that shit. esports ready btw

[candid badge]

i second this

[median birch]

this bug is so BS, hope they fix this soon.

[night socket]

The headhunter event is bugged as shit, several times i get the bounty even though im not the one on my team with the highest kills

[undone elm]

Buff AFK autokick especially at the start of the match.

[dusk elm]

Honestly, yeah. Beta and seasons 1-3 players should get diamond backgrounds and weapon charms. The stickers and diamond weapons are cool, but this would also be an awesome addition for players who grinded earlier seasons.

[glacial thistle]

i think after unlocking all the weapons you should be able to exchange VRs for multibucks in small amounts. Something like 100:1 to incentivize playing the game more consistently. I think propping up the queue and its userbase is a fair trade for not buying skins. Most people who buy skins were gonna do it anyways

[grizzled maple]

#BringBackBankIt

[rugged temple]

Buff dagger, revert the qm changes and don't touch sword.

[restive bane]

We should be able to change our specials mid game with reserves too, if cloak isn't working switch to grapple if healing beam isn't useful at the moment switch to turret

[forest veldt]

#bringbackbankit

[indigo timber]

#BringBackBankIt

[limpid gust]

Why the fuck is the sbmm in world tour, how is it every game everyone I face has on 10k kills and have diamonds and emeralds in every match it's a casual mode

[craggy otter]

I feel like there are quite a few bots.

[cobalt tinsel]

No sbmm in wt

[fathom hearth]

I get it you want to cater to lights but someone should recognize it’s the reason why the game is dead. 13k peak 😭

[nova osprey]

How are you so unbelievably stupid, the game is not dead this is the funniest and saddest rage bait from you

[hybrid rune]

Dude thinks the whole playerbase is just on steam 😂

[woven hawk]

I don't mind getting teamkilled by accident, I smile and it almost affects me 0% but getting troll defibbed in TDM feels worse than 20-30 deaths by team.

Pls allow revive/defib rejection. It's by far my most painful part of solo tdm.

[modest patio]

please nerf the cerb and sword

[cobalt kernel]

#BringBackBankIt !

I love it, i can't sleep i need it back, it's the first alternative mode added to the game and should be honored for that, how dare you remove it?!

[crisp heart]

please add hud safezone

[woeful sequoia]

Please up sword damage and decrease dash regeneration cooldown

[modern bramble]

LET THE CONTESTANTS KISS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fleet quiver]

real

[small crest]

Have the heal beam cure defib sickness immediately to incentivize more teamwork and improve survivability after getting defibrillated.

[candid badge]

nerf sword or rework it. 👍

[rustic tusk]

Fix match making for the love of god

[thick cliff]

I always says that and some no life pc players that are autistic keep saying aim assist is strong and better thank mnk massive skill issue and when i say so why u dont play with controller he just keep insulting me
The game is losing console players hope they will see your message

[rotund gust]

can we get pets in battlepasses please. Like 1 a season. A crab 🦀 or lizard buddy like a chameleon 🦎 would go CRAZYYYYY

[smoky gust]

I would love an ant or a colorful flatworm

[fiery patio]

anime sponsor

[graceful fractal]

Please allow heavy to suplex lights headfirst into concrete

[west raven]

more ospuze skin

[modern ether]

that would undo the nerfs due to that specific reason, defib shouldnt allow you to immediately go in to a fight, nor should it just be used blindly. I feel people just need to start de-fibbing bodys in a safe location because ive been seeing so many people use de-fib like we are still in season 2. But I do understand where your coming from

also people need to start being punished for either bad position or poor choices when attacking a team or bad aim

also also unrelated embark nerf sword

[tawny grove]

There should be a visual indicator in the hotbar for the healing beam cooldown

[weak ivy]

so when are we fixing moving platforms?

[simple ether]

Just fought an entire team of mediums with turrets and aps turrets on the platform. There is no counter to that. Stop holding the hands of newbs and fix this hot mess. This is every other match these days

[untold hazel]

pls just display the ads from season 2 3 6 and mid game events for small screen and not the billboard thingie

[shell scroll]

When is 120 fps mode coming to xbox s for us brokies

[spiral hemlock]

cerberus could use a slight nerf

[cerulean birch]

goo gun

[obsidian dragon]

goo gun and daga reshaper

[tall kernel]

Add the Thompson gun with a 50 round mag for lights or mediums please

[indigo timber]

#BringBackBankIt

[fierce mortar]

Embark Devs please add trench coats/long coats.

[barren silo]

Add map voting fr

[uncut hedge]

game uninstalled, thanks for the fun. fix your meta and rank system

[wild dune]

I feel like the DAGGER could have more dash with the second attack and also a faster alt charging, rn sword does everything better, with the dagger you need to be like, 3 meters in range with the target? Alt atack maybe 5? And even though you swing attacks at the same speed as the sword you do less dmg, and backstabs frequently lend to elbow stabs, In a game where everyone kills a light in less than a SEC, buffing the DAGGER seems like the obvious choice to me, it is fun but... a bad sword.

[lime granite]

please add an amethyst gem skin either as:

• weapon mastery [have a card in the weapon's overview page that says: "x" amount of kills, damage, tournament wins, etc.] once you achieve all the challenges you unlock the skin for that gun. Make this take time as it is the mastery amethyst, same as our badges. (It would be nice if it can track from S1 but I understand if it was a fresh start)

or

• The end of all the weapon levels [ex: lvl 15 skin is the gem skin, players will push for that grinding out the weapon to show their mastery] (I know embark doesn't have all guns gemmed yet but at some point) As and end level skin make it cost 1 mil xp or have it require "x" amount of tourney wins (like how emerald s3 was).

This allows players to "target" what they want instead of the ONLY waiting for random gemmed skins every season. I understand keeping emerald and diamond for seasonal fomo, but amethyst would be adding to the collection. Also you would be earning it at the same time! Players would understand the mastery behind the amethyst gem skin since our badge top mastery level is amethyst. Either way embark wants to add it, I just say this now as a solo player if the gem skins don't interest me I don't grind for the season.
Also I don't know if embark cares but I would be nice if they added S1-S3 badges and backgrounds for veterans players. They can even go all they back to the closed betas if they want. It's small nitpick but it would be nice

[coarse condor]

i still cant comprehend why dagger and sword alt attacks get cancelled on too short of an input and yet throwing knives have been working just fine

its such a simple thing that ruins one too many fights for absolutely 0 reason

many argue that i just need a better sense of time to time it better without slipping up, and sure theyre right to an extent but I find that absolutely absurd to be expected to do so just to use a certain weapon (especially when others are fine) as it has 0 relevance to the skill that should be required to actually use the weapon. Its like when games have absurdly bad camera systems to where you have to train yourself on how to use the camera before you can even play the game. its just annoying and provides no benefits to the enjoyment of playing the game

just to add a bit more to my rant, why are you guys nerfing the already inconsistent backstabs the daggers were designed to operate by and buffing the light attacks that were meant to be bad in a way to punish those with bad placement or strategy? this is the exact opposite of what the dagger needed and every dagger user wanted - it only gives us more of a reason to use the already overused sword as the dagger slowly shifts into being a worse version of it

[dry mirage]

CAN THE NEW ASSAULT RIFLE BE GIVEN TO THE MEDIUM CLASS PLEASE, THE LIGHT CLASS HAS ALL THE GEAR MORE GUNS THEN BOTH CLASSES THIS IS NOT BALANCED CAN YOU TELL ME THIS KNOW?

[elder folio]

There's a fish in the bp rn

[runic cargo]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[orchid flame]

can we fix this bug that makes you perma reload and wont let you shoot. cmon

[river hearth]

please add a face type that is pale white in skin tone

I wish to turn my heavy into judge holden

[thick cliff]

Please embark add mnk support to consoles i really love this game but as a meduim player aim assist is not that good facing mnk and is so annoying that u deal with stick drift in new controller every 3months
It will be so good if you add mnk support to console since now we are forced to play against pc players and thanks🙏

[rough storm]

Nerf sword

@icy marsh nice argument. I feel so degraded rn oh no

[icy marsh]

You have brain damage

[tall spoke]

gaem laggy please fix

[main gull]

get rid of goo gun if youre gunna rework stun indefinitely, why can a 350hp heavy stop me in my tracks repeatedly no cool down 20 times but i cant stun him for 3.5 seconds at 150hp. make that make any form of sense, especially when im 1shot to half the weapons. also, cerb is only liked by absolute dorks, nerf it or get rid of it, dying to fire after outplaying a team or getting away (ya know, what light is supposed to be able to do) is the most aids thing ive ever experienced outside of all of heavys easy cop out panic damage they can throw at you when youre fighting them with strategical advantage i.e. panic slam, panic RPG (especially when they throw in a bubble and a mesh or double heavy bubble and mesh while getting sucked on by their medium healer giving them the equivalent to 1000hp)

[wide void]

(add 5v5 Cashout please)

[errant crater]

aim assist is bugged. set ur aim dead zone to 0 to fix it. there now go aimbot people

[thorny sedge]

Add text chat to console PLEASE

[tough sphinx]

nerf light double barrel
nerf cerb
nerf the repeater

[deep cedar]

rpg inspect animation where you spin it in your hand from the handle. like a fidget spinner or something idk

[small crest]

😩 I did not say "take away" defib sickness. That is towards your section about "defib shouldn't allow you to immediately go in to a fight -".
With reviving, at least you'd still have whatever amount of ammo left in your weapon when you died but the cool down, due to defib sickness, on gadgets remains due to the sickness. What I said was to have the heal beam cure defib sickness. Give a person back their kit the moment a heal beam is used on them. Maybe the medium will stick around too, heal the person completely. Keep the beam on them, keep them alive a little longer to do damage to a sudden light walking in with a sword or double barrel. And if they do this all while strategically reviving the person, ey look at that, teamwork happened and flourishes. This idea is to push for more teamwork cause still, to this day, so very often, anytime I've gotten revived I get near immediately killed cause the medium didn't want to stay, didn't want to heal, or I was killed cause a heavy and two lights walked in or a light in general walked in. If the medium at least squirted a little bit of the healing beam my way after reviving me but right before them dying, I'd like to at least throw a grenade before getting squashed instead of reloading my gun cause the amount of ammo isn't enough to push back or trade with an enemy. Maybe even a goo grenade to block, hide, sneak, and then revive the person who revived me.
All to incentivize teamwork just a little more.

[fleet socket]

bro wtf is this 💀 I thought it wasn't much different till I let go of my controller and turned 45 degrees just by letting the training bot walk back and forth a few times
Has it been reported?

[coarse jacinth]

any fix for constant tfge0003 error codes during matches?? console btw

[sacred siren]

it really isnt rocket science, i-frames either should just not exist, or be instantly disabled once someone shoots their gun. its been like 6 seasons and yall still havent figured it out. amazing.

[warm bluff]

[hasty grove]

Is bank it already back? :'v

[radiant harbor]

Taser was fine. For the love of god get rid of the sword.

[forest mason]

Dual swords can’t defect charged swords

[ripe seal]

Bring bank back it

[delicate schooner]

No.

[nova osprey]

No this is one of the worst suggestions yet, defib sickness is there for a reason

[tall spoke]

riot sheild blocks flash when its facing up please ambark id would be so cool

[drifting belfry]

Add left-hand for weapons/gadgets, I assume there'd be a high amount of work to reanimate some things if needs be.

[long oxide]

differing cash for weapons in world tour doesnt work everything give 500
also PLEASE BRING BACK GOO PUSHING PLEASE, FREE GOO SHIP

[icy elm]

Fix the fucking duel blades omg how annoying

[mystic pawn]

Increase damage to wielder on cl-40 so people stop spamming floor in front of them, thank you!

[astral lance]

krill issue on gah

meta is fine, nothins gonna be perfect but finals balance is fine

[cobalt tinsel]

Didnt even make it past white role

[lone lake]

Genuine Feedback:

Add a MVP of the Match at the celebration screen. (Either put them in the middle, or showcase them alone or smt.)

MVP is won by whoever has the highest combat, support, and objective score of the winning team at the end of a match or tournament.

[clear gust]

Quitters need to be punished much more heavily. It's actually insane how many times I backfill into fucked matches and have teammates quit at the very first wipe/couple of deaths. Having people quit so often destroys the integrity of the matches and almost always skews ongoing matches in one teams favor.

[polar grotto]

do not nerf sword is is pretty well balanced

[candid badge]

nerf sword its not balanced at all

[rotund gust]

I swear theres a bug where swapping skins in pre lobby is mixing up intro emotes and also alot of em are getting reset to default. Also noticed skins being saved to different characters from swapping. The swap should be for that game only 😵‍💫

[dusk elm]

I ain't reading all that.

[radiant arrow]

Ngl, I preferred when offensive gadgets did more damage. I never liked Battlefield or CoD because of the huge emphasis on guns and getting the best accuracy and lightning fast reflexes to be good. I've praised the finals to give me an alternative of being creative with gadgets and turning the tides with well-set traps. Now, mines and grenades are more of a minor inconveniences that is more about area denial than actually punishing those in range, the rocket launcher is more useful to do self-damage and break walls, you need to be a fortune teller to predict where to use the C4 to make good use out of it.... It's disadvantageous to use gadgets for damage because they don't have enough dps with their deployment time compared to just shooting the opponent. Just shoot-em fast, move fast and don't miss too often (or try to retreat), that's the go-to way to win a gunfight. I get it, that playstyle is popular... But I really missed the times where my killfeed had more various causes of death other than primary weapons and when I could more frequently get outplayed by creative players rather than just losing to a reflex/aim competition against tryhards and hackers.

[warm mauve]

Bring back bank it

[thorny sedge]

Would be great if you could see previous game stats from the lobby and send requests

[lament wyvern]

• Add more ARs to the game (medium class specifically). Some examples: M16, M4, or some other new guns
• Allow shooting through some walls so we can wallbang players
• Make it so smoke and gas naturally expand through building interiors instead of clipping through walls unnaturally
• Add cars as obstacles and decorations on some maps, or in the future maps

[opaque moth]

Would bee cool if you could join a friends game in progress if someone leaves. had a friend of mine stuck in a 4v5 power shift and it wouldve been nice if i couldve hopped in to help

[gentle lantern]

that is a good one

[brave thistle]

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!

REVERT the Barricade Height

Allow HEAVY to see OVER BARRICADE!!!

OR

Make barricade have a Step / Ledge

to allow heavy to stay on it and see over barricade

[swift gust]

you really shouldn't tell me about getting good when you were crying that I am using cheats LMAO. Seems like you need to learn how to shoot. You can learn how to aim from me buddy. You can learn from my Laser Aim video that you were crying about

[deep vessel]

Ospuze themed minigun skin with custom animations… make the reload be opening a can of Ospuze and dumping it into the mag 🙂

[sinful finch]

ill do you one better, minigun themed ospuze

[marble tree]

Add kbm support to console so the game is fair

[onyx crystal]

Just had to wait about 45 seconds to respawn in "quick" cash. The changes have made it worse than S1-S3 QC by far, it either takes 7 seconds to respawn (in which you cant change your loadout for the first 8 seconds by the way), or about 30. Change first kill respawn time to 25s, change teamwipe to fully reset to 20s, and make it so if anyone dies while another teammates has 5 or less second left they start a new wave. And make it so as soon as you die, you can change loadout instead of having to stare at the enemy move.

[supple nebula]

add jeff

[night bough]

For GOD'S SAKE Embark, add SBMM, I'm tired of getting queued up with a thousand emeralds !

[grand depot]

Let us convert 5000 vr to 50 coins or sum like that

[iron pollen]

plz nerf minigun

[brittle birch]

nerf sword embark

[lament wyvern]

Nerf sword

[cobalt kernel]

#BringBackBankIt there was absolutely no reason to remove it..

Also softlock Sword by not making it possible to equip it together with Dash ability, problem solved

[normal lance]

stop sword + evasive dash combo.

[lethal wolf]

Check out compressed air element

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/GKFecjZYJY

[warm mauve]

Bring back Bank It

[hazy shore]

sword is a skill check. if you pass the skill check, sword is trivial. the sword is in a good spot

[sudden trout]

real. I've played against so many sword players and been able to easily kill them. If anything dagger is arguably more problematic now

[west star]

Clearly they haven't sworded enough

[violet widget]

wouldn't it be better if pressing R while using ARN let us mag swap and holding R let us reload? The current implementation isn't intuitive, sometimes I don't want to unload the entire mag in firefight for a quick swap

[pearl idol]

Bring the Goo gun and you can create your own step stool.

[stray wing]

I would love to See a new light spec next Season. Medium got one, Heavy got one, light has not gotten one so far

[umbral pebble]

World Tour is supposed to be pretty casual but you are wasting the time of your players when they don't get any XP for losing.

[brave thistle]

why should i be forced to do that when the items should work as intended

[odd ibex]

Light breach charge needs to break smaller holes that’s enough for lights to peek and shoot or go through and don’t leave large open holes like it already does and besides no one needs that level of destruction and it’s almost NEVER used!!!!!
Make damage STACK at least close to season 1 breach charge.

Add a flare gun that leave trails like the colourful purple smoke/sparkle if stuck on players and does small burn damage and sparks damage player teammates nearby,leaves more smoke if flare is stationary so it’s also a long range smoke bomb,it’s duel purpose.

[sterile canopy]

…they do. Barricade is not supposed to be that powerful. It’s good as-is

[frozen ferry]

Damn the PC XBOX game pass version of this game has big issues compared to steam. RTX HDR issues, connection issues, party join issues, inout delay etc

[red arch]

they clearly didnt want barricades to be a headglitch/offensive tool, it works fine as a defensive space making tool if you're using it at least somewhat well

[fading flame]

Make the M134 fire as fast as the real life M134.

[fallow gust]

There would be soooo much more content in Internet about The Finals if the game has a replay system

[gaunt terrace]

a theater mode would definitely be great

[leaden idol]

If you want defensive capability while shooting pick the dome shield. It's not the longest lasting gadget but when you learn to use it effectively it can turn the fight on its head

[warped haven]

I think the world tour event doesnt trigger on the right player consistently if you’re team wiped as the event triggers

[craggy basin]

Give everyone who complains and gives no way you should improve what they complain about clown role plz or give me clown role

[hybrid hearth]

Grrr i’m so angry with this game!

I didn’t realize there was a 2 hour wait period. I wasted my comment. Karma sucks lol

[foggy orbit]

Hello game-feedback, do you think this clip with sword is fair? And if not, how would you change sword?

[quartz dirge]

yeah
you out maneuvered the guy
you couldve done the same thing with a shotgun 🤷‍♀️
sword literally isnt an issue weapon, its people thinking its an issue weapon because they cant be asked to do any form of basic counterplay to the weapon

[obsidian dragon]

as a heavy main ik im not the best player but sword seems balanced enough and people who are good with it wreck but that’s also with every other gun

[echo radish]

make incognito mode name same for social screen cheaters are abusing incognito mode and it is hard to find out who was who after the match

[gritty owl]

Sword is in a good place, yeah. Its very rare someone is actually good with it and a nuisance. Same for dagger imo. Balancing is in a good spot in general imo. Heavy suffered a bit from all the explosive nerfs over time and medium dematerializer. I wish heavy was more destruction focused again

[topaz seal]

Weekends are completely unbearable to play this game. No matter the gamemode you get premade ruby lobbies, this is not fun, nor will it want to make me invest in the game

[stuck void]

Other competitive FPS games have solo-queue only lobbies as an option when the main ranked mode is teams. I STRONGLY recommend this, as it would make the experience of ranked much more fair to players that don’t always have friends to play with, or can’t get into a call here because people kick them out
(I’ve had that happen before, and I know it happens to others)
Although the queue times would likely be incredibly slow, it would be worth it knowing the games you join are much more evenly matched, and every game actually has a chance to win for once.
Edit: react to the message for agreement because for once someone posted something that isn’t a rant but an actual suggestion
Edit 2: okay you can’t react to it so I’ll make this a “day one of x” kind of message and keep track of agreements
Total signed: 1

[sleek marsh]

pls make ruby available from the start of the season, WT is till then absolutly terrible since there is at least one ruby premade team that completely destroys the whole lobby, A casual playlist btw

[fluid raptor]

let us disable the chat filter again. censoring "lmao" is beyond stupid.

[noble bramble]

Idk why I can't react to this but I completely agree

[tropic snow]

replace lvl badge 71-120 with cosmetic rewards

[solemn fulcrum]

We need Bank It back, TDM is boring

[terse slate]

I love the actual balance but sword lights are the worst "insert all known insults" of all time. Hitbox is far too big, Multihit shouldnt be a thing, dash + Sword lunge shouldnt catapult big distances.. A sword shouldnt be able to do what hammer did before the overhead swing nerf.. its bananas..
Fixes: Either fix melee in general ( even quick melee is a bit broken atm.. ) or make it so that the dash resets the sword lunge so you have to load it again. This is a pain for casuals and a big nono for newcomer. Make this game newbie friendly to grow.

[vapid valley]

Perfectly balanced and fair, he shot you when you came around the corner, then you went back and outmanoeuvred him to avoid being hit by bullets then slashed him a few times, the people who say it’s unbalanced and unfair go against super good sword players just like your self, you can do this with any weapon in the game on light

[indigo timber]

#BringBackBankIt

[cloud jungle]

The "thank you for reporting" should have the player name of the person you reported

[tacit radish]

glitch mines, lockbolt, cerberus ,hammer, sh ,sticking with yo team , mines , grapple ,flamethower all the things that can make your life easier good sir. also #BringBackBankIt

[lament wyvern]

Remove light sword or disable dash+sword. Actually you can remove whole light class

[slender pine]

day 420 in a row asking for a sword nerf

[ripe rover]

day 10 of petitioning for dagger revert. no extra damage is needed. it could have less damage on its left clicks and I and others I think would be just fine if you were more mobile using it and we reverted the angle nerf. angle nerf introduced what I assume is an unintended backstab consistency problem where they should be hitting but they now don't. Also please revert nerf to backstab distance. The nerfs were pointless and done with malice in my humble opinion

[celest vine]

The Head Hunter World Tour mode is very confusing and not fun due to how random the money is. It leads to the same sort of issues from previous iterations of Cashout, where you have no ability to come back due to the differences in money.

"I thought we were doing well, yet there's no mathematical way we can win...hm"

[paper glade]

Or this, you make a good point its just that i have been matching with only emerald teams for 3 days straight while i have neven even breached gold in the finals. World tour is just not progressing at all besides a few points here and there for (evidently of with luck) reaching round 2 and getting obliterated there instead

[terse lark]

yeah it kinda sucks. if you're already 1st or 2nd you can just hunt bounties you get 3 bounties and you are already up an extra 15k and if the last vault doesnt get doubled im just like :\ the game is mathematically over ig im just going to do nothing for a couple minutes

[deep folio]

this game has the worst ranked system ever i have not even played the first four to get a rank cuz every time my team is so fucking assssss and if u get a rank it is low so ur team is ass again and since ts is based on placement and it doesnt matter how u play u just go lower and lower fuck ts game

[steel heart]

I think if the devs wernt allowed to play lights the game would improve..

[round isle]

Just realized you get 2 full costumes on battle pass. Very cool 👍

[round hornet]

He hard pushed into the one area pike is weakest while you had a cqb weapon. He got what he deserved.

[teal bear]

I feel like sword players are mad predictable even the really good ones. There's only so many ways for the sword guy to get close to you which leads to easily predictable behaviors regardless of skill level. That's not to say I don't have trouble with some really good users but goo gun, lock bolt, and your weapon of choice shuts that shit down

*edit. Bruh you wanna have a good time. Throw a jump pad on the ground and start jumping all around them.

[mystic pawn]

Can we for the LOVE OF EVERYTHING HOLY CAN WE PLEASEEEEE GET FOOTSTEP AUDIO QUES!!!!!!

[pearl idol]

My Feedback as a powershift player and season 6 almost enjoyer.

The Platform must keep moving for the last team that capped it, Too many games end in one sided domination from stacking teams against randoms and spawn trapping to farm kills.

The Spawns need to be more diverse, Powershift mains know all the spawns and will destroy all mobility tools and trap spawns.

Swords need to be only able to hit one person or less damage since they can wipe a whole powershift platform solo. (Ive tried the counters they dont work because of ping or games choices)

Dual blades need some sort of slow or Preferably a new specialisation for medium that gives them short term movement speed. because its too ez to counter them by just running away before they have to hit a whole combo on you

Flashbangs need to be toned down a little or atleast remove one of them.

Sensors should no longer work through walls.

Make the Fcar and AKM feel alot more different, they both seem to fill the same roll now and it comes down to whichever has the best dps that season.

[nova osprey]

Please, please, please dear god add sbmm to WT. it’s not fun getting stomped by players who are 10 or 20 levels above me. I don’t care if I still lose, I’d rather lose in my skill level, not against people who are above me in every way.

Also, I don’t know if anyone has watched his video, but add Macros suggestion for WT. the suggestion was that whether or not you lose, people should get one Win point for every 10k or 15k cash you make. This actually makes sense, considering that the leaderboard isn’t based off win points or wins, but in cash. This would also help make the grind of WT, which takes around 100 hours to do for the average player, more bearable.

[sharp arrow]

Nahhhhhhh that would absolutely kill sword. The issue with sword is a skill issue. It's incredibly strong in casual but weak in high elo rank because people understand how easy it is it counter sword. People always complain about it with it's just a skill issue on their part. They don't ever even fathom to maybe use one of the many ways to counter sword

Edit: I'm not saying that high rank players are the only ones capable of countering sword because of their skill compared to casuals. I'm saying that casuals tend to not give a single effort into actually thinking for a second on how to counter, which can be done quite easily. Just off the top of my head, lock bolt, keep distance (easiest one to implement, jump pad (between sword and you or jump in the air so sword can't hit you), goo gun, close range guns and not melee other than sword (melee tends to just be free kills for sword), wrench claw, and more. Sword is in a rly good place rn but PLEASE people just stop and think for a moment omg

[faint saddle]

Tac, istg this medium could have jump pad and or zipline away and oneshot/twoshot you with a Cerb

He missed all his shots and looked like a console player
This is a stretch on trying to make sword look good

[blazing ingot]

if the game is focused on high rank players then newcomers won’t give a fuck, and the game will end up with a cult like community who’s all highly skilled players and no one dares to enter such to avoid becoming a dirty sweaty tryhard themselves

[dusty igloo]

Shorten the grinds for wt and quick cash, I am a no life but it just gets tedious now with quick cash only giving 8 points for a win

[smoky gust]

Then its too situationally extreme

Not good in high elo, too strong for casual

Let it be a skill issue for new players, their experience still matters
We need people to join and stick around
Doesnt help it if you also want to force them into specific items/guns to counter with when they just want to have fun

Adjusting for hitreg would be a start
But i wouldnt mind a rework that also makes it more accessible with cloak/grapple

[sleek lodge]

Why are we still complaining about sword? Just whip out the Cerberus or the Flamethrower...or just make distance or stick with your team. There are many counters.

[nocturne yew]

let me change hands with the riot shield at will please!

[marble tree]

Add kbm support for console to make the game fair

[quick coyote]

I would love to see a skip-able kill cam added to the game.

[elfin arch]

The counter to sword I get 100%, but if you miss the lockbolt, sol, if you aren't running flamethrower, sol, if you aren't running goo gun/grenade/winch/shotguns, sol, fix hit reg, disable quick melee on melee weapons, and make it so that dash resets heavy attack so they have to think when to heavy attack and when to dash,it isn't fun or fair to run into one of them who can dash past my screen and back before I can turn my camera back on a controller, I'd much rather fight a winch/sledge or spear cuz at least they have to hit a skill shot before demolishing me, also bring back bank it and make the head hunter event happen more than once

[indigo timber]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[hybrid hearth]

I’m actually a huge fan the dash resets the heavy attack

[quartz osprey]

Please revert the delay on the comms wheel and let us use it when dead 🔥

[supple nebula]

add jeff

[surreal meadow]

guys, do you think he wants bank it back?

[icy marsh]

Skill issue - people don’t like sword because everytime they die to it, it’s because they were caught out of position in an FPS game by someone who doesn’t have a gun. It’s an ego thing. Position yourself better and you will own me 100% of the time.

[fathom hearth]

insanely unbalanced... that ones goin into the scrapbook

[graceful tide]

Why does it keep getting stuck on the "Connecting" page after the game ends?

[fading cobalt]

Don't allow the player to use winch until after animations like the KS-23 pump or the SA1216 barrel rotation are done. That would avoid the player getting what's basically a double animation because they used Winch 0.01 seconds too early.

[sterile canopy]

I’d say so yeah, you could have hipfired any gun into him and the effect would have been the same. He missed almost all shots due to poor awareness + your good movement.

[quick coyote]

amethyst level 10 skins the current one is ugly 😄

[fringe schooner]

Even if you do hit the lockbolt, they can still dash around. lockbolt is pointless

[foggy fractal]

itd be cool if embark added every world tour modifier as an option in custom matches as they expire so we can make some wild mixed mod game setups. imagine playing a customs game with head hunter AND WEAPON BASED CASH REWARDS(where you get to set the values).

[lament wyvern]

Its not a skill issue because you are playing with sonar grenade and you can know our exact positions and just jump in from an unexpected direction. Wherever I may be you will come from a corner and just dash into me. Exceptions are when you have to come to me from clear line of sight. I rarely lose 1v1 against sword guy but while im shooting his teammates he often just comes out of nowhere and dashes into my team.

So conclusion for embark -- remove swords from light

[red arch]

i mean ignoring the fact that every high elo player literally hates the weapon, sword vs casuals is even worse. imagine u hop on after a day of work and you just die to cheesy shit like that cant imagine how much fun it is for them

[median birch]

Light Sword+Dash is oppressive for a new player and annoying for midlevel play while being mediocre in high level play.

so what do we have currently?
its left click doing 74 (fine) right click damage being 140 with AOE (issue). sledge was changed to not multhit with its heavy attack for a reason do the same for this.
effective range of this increases by a lot when combining dash+ sword alt/right click, 6m 7m to something like 11m-12m although light becomes a human bullet. so he is vulnerable to mines and being shot while coming at a target.

this range increase makes so sword achieves slightly better range of effectiveness off the double barrel with the disadvantages of positioning and not able to interact with stuff if they dont get close (activating mines, damaging props and other stuff in the map), also being line of sight exposed when attacking to gunfire and gadgets

Assuming a light player uses dash +sword or dash + double barrel with both having vanish bomb...

So sword can do (140+40) (180) to oneshot light from 11-12m while double barrel two shots them in 10 m and needs to be at 4m-5m to oneshot them

So sword can (140+140) (280) to two shot medium with 11-12m while double barrel needs 6-7m to two shot them (light can also 140+40+74 for similar two shot)

So sword can (140+40)+(140+40) (360) to two shot a heavy with 11-12m while double barrel needs 4-5m to two shot them...

main differences important to point out double barrel has to reload sword does not, sword is forced to use dash to engage while double barrel can decide depending on situation. sword has AOE double barrel does not.

drop its alt fire damage to 120 and reduce AOE. about the AOE If the secondary would only hit in a straight line, that would be enough of a nerf for it. I'm OK with the range and all, but if your going for a Lunge, you shouldn't be able to draw massive circles to hit left and right of your corridor. Also lag and bad server tick rate benefit melee more then guns in general

[sonic arrow]

Saying quick melee is broken has to be the stupidest fucking take ever put in this channel.

Sword doesn't need a nerf, it needs more counterplay options other than glitch mines and teamwork. In fact, don't even call melee weapons broken when guns can win every fight against it at ranges more than ten meters.

melee weapons don't need a nerf, gun users need an IQ buff.

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Those saying fcar needs a buff need to take a flashback to season 1, where it was the most oppressive weapon to fight because it was insanely effective at dealing with every class. Not only would a buff make the meta AR hell, but everyone would be running it, and medium weapon diversity would be destroyed, kind of like how it was in S1 when everyone ran akm and fcar.

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also I'm posting this grenade list again

[astral viper]

Hi, the 5 second timer on leaving matches seems stupid and pointless. Can we remove it or at least drop it down to like, 2-3 seconds?

[lyric pike]

can we make the FCAR feel like a heavy assault rifle. release date damage but smaller mag like 16 or something little more recoil maybe. i dont get why a pistol out damages an FCAR at range or most guns at that.

[random smelt]

It's almost like its a melee weapon DESIGNED to BE good at melee range. Hell if sword didn't have those combos than players would be able to kill sword without them being able to even get 1 person.

Anyways Embark I need this costume badly.

[runic thunder]

objective score is pointless in worldtour, please make the number higher like 9k or something

[pseudo latch]

GIB MINIGUN BUFF RITO EMBARK

[upper citrus]

let us put teams of 5-6 in the game for private matches using the final round gamemode

[round hornet]

The polarizing nature has way more to do with dash than sword itself. Dash is a binary check of: "Can you track? Yes/No." Your answer to that question entirely determines what a dash player can do, and sword intensifies this by giving dash a hitbox. This is also why m11, another weapon that synergizes with dash, gets a ton of flack despite being completely balanced.

What needs to happen is dash getting a rework, not sword.

[pseudo leaf]

I think sword is too easy to play for what it can do. You have a build in dash 2, combos to kill every class + multi hit potential and i feel like they should nerf the multi hit. Make it harder to do like most good players just does 360 and hit every one in the range at the end of there dash. Which is bs. I saw some players 2 hit combos 2 mediums with that. There are counter play to those things but i think it should get a dmg nerf to multi hits or do some thing about 360 turning.

[last saddle]

FIX YOUR ANTICHEAT.

Just faced an entire team of botters who rotated toggling it on and off. And DONT HAVE THE REPORT SCREEN CONSTANTLY BOUNCE TO THE END OF GAME MENU. Trying to report someone and like 5 times in sequence it bounces you to the menu.

[narrow osprey]

The nerf to the model was unnecessary and only a response to people constantly complaining, it was balanced. Deagles are too strong from range

[honest verge]

The game relies so heavily on teamwork but the HUD doesn't feel like it does a good job communicating team loadout. Often the loadouts dont match the avatars in the lobby. Or if someone loads in their loadout doesnt show whatsoever. ALSO THE GOO GUN DOESNT GIVE CHALLENGE CREDIT FOR IMMOBILIZING ENEMIES. Show it some respect. Innovative ideas like the goo gun are what make this game so great, not the Medium stacking vanilla fps loadouts

[kindred cosmos]

Nerf Triple Minigun Meta.

[gloomy umbra]

Do's everybody lag on the game

[gloomy cradle]

Triple minigun meta 💀

[bright gull]

Why does the xp-45 beam me from half way across the map it's an smg

[fluid raptor]

solo q in gold 1, lose first round cuz we're the 2nd best team and first is a full ruby stack hardgriefing us gg

[digital yoke]

REVERT ANIMATION CANCELS

[quick coyote]

+1

[dawn valve]

CL 40 is absurd, not only did you nerf invis but you buffed the weapon that counters it best. So tired of playing TDM against 2-3 CL 40 users who just spam constantly.

Cerb NEEDS A NERF FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

@round hornet Absolutely not, you DO NOT need to mess with light specs just to nerf one weapon. Dash is nowhere near OP, if you cant deal with it then its a skill issue. The only thing dash needs is to break through glass when dashing.

Please buff the V9S, it gets no love anymore. You never see it in high ELO. I love the weapon but it is outperformed by nearly every other light weapon. Missing even 1-2 shots can easily cost you the fight, even when surprising enemies, and the hipfire is NOT consistent. Also, damage falloff is insane, at 20 meters it takes 5 HEADSHOTS to kill a light, 7 body. Seriously you killed RPM then just left it in the dust. Other guns have the RPM and mag size to be able to miss 3-5 shots and still come out on top, but not the V9S. Also, this is from playing nearly 300 hours with JUST the V9S, so I do know what im talking about. Make the gun viable again please.

[mystic pawn]

Doubling down can we PLEASEEEEEE GET ENEMY FOOTSTEP NOISE QUES, like why can someone literally walk up behind me and I never hear them? Makes absolutely zero sense for an fps, I promise no one would be hurt by this and it would GREATLY improve gameplay, thanks!

[brave copper]

Deagles are the only ranged option for heavy and all other long range guns from other classes will out DPS deagles at distance.

Almost all of heavy's other weapons are sprayers or melee spam, do you really want to drive players away from weapons like KS and deagles to those?

[tall kernel]

Add the Thompson sub machine gun please

[mystic viper]

games garbage if you want to win play like a loser and you will

[steel heart]

This game isn't getting better.. they keep pumping out sassy outfits and wasting recourses on content while the servers suffer and the balance is getting worse with every patch. there's no team cohesiveness and maps quickly tun to buggy piles of rubble hiding melee players and lights who can charge up a heavy attack then dash 30 feet to get a free kill.... hit scan is a mess and if i do good one game i know I'll be punished for it in the next. embark isnt just shooting themselves in the feet, they are standing in a wood chipper trying to turn it on. and facts purposeyee

[remote holly]

Honestly, I can't believe how broken this game has become. I keep getting matched with the same people, and the skill gap between teams is just absurd. It's like there's no balance at all. The game feels seriously messed up right now.

There’s no one left who seems to be around my skill level. Most players are grouped up in pre-made teams, and somehow, not a single strong player ever ends up on my team. It’s just ridiculous.

These unfair situations keep happening over and over again, and honestly, it’s exhausting. I come to games to relieve stress—not to add more of it. But lately, it feels like the player base has shifted completely. If I speak as someone who’s somewhere in the middle skill-wise, I’d say that mid-level players have basically vanished.

It’s not that I play too much or aim to climb high—I just enjoy the game. But it feels like only high-level players are left now. The middle ground is gone, and I have no idea where those players went. Right now, just launching the game feels like walking into a nightmare.

Who would want to start playing this game in its current state? No one. Absolutely no one wants to get stomped repeatedly and somehow still be expected to have fun.

That’s how I feel right now. It’s incredibly frustrating. Even when I win, the situations I find myself in are just nonsense. And the worst part is—this seems to be the new normal.

Who would want to touch a game that keeps heading in this direction? My love for it is fading fast. I really hope the developers snap out of it soon—before it’s too late.

[jaunty vapor]

snap out of what?

[stable gull]

Put the fuckin profanity filter option back Embark this thing sucks ass

[wet herald]

I think you need a better headset or just need to focus more. It's really easy to hear footsteps and know where they're coming from

[fiery patio]

It's not. Combat sound is horrendous in this game.

[noble bramble]

I believe it has a lot of potential, but there are a few issues that are causing the game to be more frustrating than fun. The obvious n1 culprit is the clear mismatch between new players and skilled veterans being put in matches against each other - ridiculous to say the least, and that's on casual mode, don't get me started on WT or ranked.

Secondly, for a multiplayer game that claims to want people to play together as a team, there is very little in set in place in game to encourage coop and teamwork in matches, causing people to grief their teammates by leaving losing matches and leaving teams with 2/3 players out of 5 (in casual modes). It's been happening pretty much every single game I've played the last two days, especially in Power Shift & Cash Out. It gives the opponents an unfair advantage and makes it extremely unfun for people replacing the griefers mid match, especially if they're joining a losing team with 1 min/30 seconds to go until the game ends. Is there any punishment mechanism for people who grief their teammates by leaving the game at the beginning of/mid game? If not, can something be implemented? For players joining a match on a losing team with a minute or less, the loss shouldn't count towards their stats like it currently does and perhaps they should have some grace period/incentive to stay so that they also don't exit.

Lastly, please add more incentives for people on the same team to work together (especially on casual game modes/ PS where the objective is literally to move the platform together) by making support/objective scores, revives and assists more valuable to encourage team co-op. It might even be worth adding support scores/assists/objective scores to player card stats as only kills, wins and revives don't really reflect other players teamwork and coop capabilities.

[topaz seal]

For sure more cheaters/hackers now, judging already by the playstyle where these spraying lights just take other cashouts no problem at all.

[dark niche]

its great to know we're still complaining about the sword...if you hate it that much, why dont we try:
staying w your team
glitch
goo
literally just making distance
barricade
using a shotgun
lockbolt
demat
jump pad
zipline
grappling hook
evasive dash
goo gun
CnS
using a melee weapon
admitting that you got outplayed and not going here to complain..!!!

[celest tree]

pls give me 1 more contestant slot, that's all i ask for

[untold hazel]

EMBARK FIX THE TIMEOUT SYSTEM I GOT 30 MIN EVEN THOUGH I JOINED BACK JUST BC MY WIFI WENT OFF AND LOST 2K RS WTF EMBARK

[icy marsh]

Based

[tight oracle]

Let jukebox change end of round music

[warm mauve]

Dash sword is cool and all…but how bout bringing Bank It back?

[rose basin]

should be able to change sights mid game during non-ranked matches

[chilly cedar]

L take

[nova osprey]

Cl40 really isn’t that absurd, as a light invis player if you get close to a cl40 user they’ll end up killing themself first. Cerb does very much need a nerf though, and dash is fine, Iland it would be a nice addition of dashing through glass

[shell jacinth]

Buff arn

[blazing ingot]

the mechanic it has to swap mags is so bad

[stray wing]

I would love to See a buff to the Tracking dart. Maybe increase duration maybe make it possible to Stack the duration of each darts or both. Would love to See this thing more viable

[native plinth]

reduce flashbang maximum intensity, it should only be enough to reduce vision to near melee, not completely blacken/whiten your screen

[umbral yacht]

Put a character limit to the essays people type in here

[cyan cairn]

We NEED a Nama tama pet.

[karmic sandal]

Remove the sword please

[umbral swift]

Sword is perfectly balanced and healthy. It’s strong in enclosed areas because it’s a fucking melee weapon on the lowest HP class in the game, so it literally has to be or it would be unusably bad even in close quarters.

• Lunge doing 138+ is mandatory to be viable. <138 = Breakpoints are garbage.
• Quick Melee comboing is mandatory to be viable. No QM comboing = Breakpoints are garbage.
• Dash-lunge synergy is mandatory to be viable. No synergy = Bad even in closer ranges.
• Multihit is mandatory to be viable. No multihit = Unusable if more than 1 enemy exists.
• Lingering flicks are mandatory to be viable. No flicks = Can only go straight = Over-predictable = Useless, especially vs ranged hitscan.

Burst shotguns still shit on Sword even in melee range. In return Sword is literal trash in open areas. And this is a game where you can destroy nearly any part of the map.

People refusing to do any of the many counters in the game is entirely their own fault. This isn’t specific to Sword either. Same goes for something like short-range guns versus long-range guns in short-range fights and long-range fights, one side will always have to do something or play differently to make up for the inherent disadvantage.

There are playstyle and equipment counters to every single thing in the game. Sword or not, every situation will not always be an even 50-50 odds of winning, that’s stupid. Sometimes you’ll be advantaged and it’ll force enemies to play around that, and sometimes, the enemies will be advantaged and force you to play around that.

[fathom hearth]

Game is swarmed by lights could we see a sword+dash nerf in the foreseeable future?

[digital shoal]

I don't like that Head Hunter shifts focus back to kills and less so the cashout. One of the things I love about this game is that game sense is just as, if not more so, important than raw FPS mechanical skill.

[pure kettle]

why can you leave the game when your moron random teammate leaves immediately and not lose rs, but if you try to play the game out like a good sport, you lose rs when you lose. Dumb af

[summer glade]

dash n sword op

[rare vapor]

why are all my randoms bots that never play with the team

[mild gull]

completely agree

[quick coyote]

LMAO and damn shouldnt be censored in the chat filter, better yet, remove the chat filter, we are not 7 anymore.

[rotund gust]

can we get 1 more class slot please Embark. It's such a simple change. but we need 3 of each class. Having only 2 of one of them is so triggering. Just add another class lol and also would it really be bad if say someone had 24 class slots??? you can only use 1 loadout per ranked game

[long burrow]

best feedback ever this will make the game fantastic

[radiant blade]

Nerf sword

[random smelt]

nerf you mother in bed

[topaz jungle]

I am not concerned about the sword…but I think it would be neat if you added an on screen blip for the gateway so my teammates can be notified when I lay one down.

[elder folio]

@quick coyote

[tall spoke]

whats the rewards for each place in worl tour

[sterile canopy]

I think V9S is a pretty good weapon, I do wonder why people don't use it... it's not objectively outperformed by anything, having generally good ttk, mag, range, hipfire and reloads.
Assuming missing constant values of shots between weapons with different firerates is a dishonest comparison.
If it wasn't for the mental and mechanical overhead of having to handle a tap fire weapon with its rpm, it'd be almost objectively better than the XP-54.

edit: ok, it turns out I'd somehow got the wrong values for its damage dropoff. Its range is actually significantly worse than I thought, had to edit to fix the graph posted. But I think its other merits are still quite meaningful!!!
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/929846728176320566/1358178100659228682/image.png?ex=67f2e56c&is=67f193ec&hm=4db6c93de6ac17a9be717fbe7f285d4a7c588962cc2a524c04a0c3fe27bb7772&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1213&height=656

[red arch]

as a medium i too hate the cl40

[covert yacht]

Is there only like 1 guy at the balance team in embark who decides the buffs and nerfs like i feel like they dont really know what they are doing IMO we need a mega weapon meta swap because we are just using the same old weapons all the time and its not healthy for the game whenever you have had the same weapons being used ever since open beta i would not mind using diffrent weapons but idk it does not feel like a copmetetive game

[celest forum]

The shields for heavy are completely useless.
Done shield gets deleted.
Barricades never want to deploy because of some random bullshit on the ground.
And the mesh shield is straight up useless if you can only drop it 3 times.
My solo experience on this game has gone soo downhill it's unreal.
Buff the original guns in the game to match these new "PC weapons" you released.

[broken plume]

PC port is lagging, Game suddenly preforms worse. I thought it was a skill issue on my part at first but my friend is also now experiencing crashes and he takes great care of his PC as far as Im aware. I dont know if anyone else is having this issue

[supple nebula]

add jeff

[digital yoke]

Embark I know that you have done everything possible to make the meta medium weapons the strongest in the game for any play style, but can you not choke pump-action weapons that are already at the bottom and bring back Q Melee and Winch animation cancel, without which all these weapons aren't complete

[gloomy cradle]

add jeff

[steady breach]

Its very upsetting that the model and ks23 are deeply affected by jab cancel. I understand that you want these to weapons to play at a specific range but the lack of jab cancel ends up making them worthless at close range.

Ks23's best specialisation is winch as it enhances what makes the weapon good and makes up for the weapon's weakness. The other specialisations, while are fine picks, do not specifically enhance the weapon in any specific way. Ks23 cannot take advantage of the quick switch to goo gun as it needs to pump, can't take advantage of mesh either well because of pump, charge and slam isn't that amazing of a specialisation and ks23 excels more at pumping out damage in close range without it (not to mention that it can break walls on its own). Ks23 is very much enhanced by winch due to its free one shot with it. However, the removal of jab cancel has really hurt the feel, fun and effectiveness of the weapon at close range and with winch. You can be more disciplined and be more careful with jabs, but it is still just far weaker than other weapons without jab cancel at close range. Not to mention that all of heavy's other weapons can jab as they please and close the gap in health far faster than ks23.

Model is another weapon that's far more enhanced by jab and the lack of jab cancel hurts it deeply. Again, I understand that you would like the weapon to play at a certain range, however, because of the damage nerf to the model, it has made jab combos with the weapon more important than ever. It has made model most effective at jab range and borderline worthless at mid range despite the fire rate buff. Not to mention that it's a shotgun and long range is simply not an option for the model. At close range, it is also simply just outclassed by cerberus, which doesn't need jab cancel.

What's most frustrating is cerberus not being held down by the constraints of jab. It doesn't need jab at all to be effective but isn't affected if it uses jab in-between shots

[wet summit]

its funny to me that everyone seems to know how to fix this game, yet hardly any of them agree with each other. I think they are expressing more a dissatisfaction with their experience, not the balance as a whole.

For instance, I dont like any of the melee or explosive weapons, and personally wish I didnt have to deal with them. That doesent necessarily mean that they are overpowered, just that my playstyle can be thwarted by them in abrupt and annoying ways. Boo hoo I guess, but thats not good enough reason to nerf them into the ground or remove them, Im not the only player after all.

I also find it funny that everyone likes to bring up all the theoretical counters for a complained about weapon. Are there counters? Of course. But are 90% of the listed counters effective ones? Mmmmm not usually. In reality, these people are ignoring all the problems with the weapon and its interaction with the game in favor of pointing out why its actually fair and balanced numbers wise or "skill issue" wise.

Overall, this game and its playerbase is one that will have to just learn how to play around its unique mechanics, frustrations, and problems. Similar to how I imagine Team Fortress 2 was when it was a younger game. People STILL complain about tf2, but oh well I guess. Maybe we will never really grow up and stop complaining lol.

[cobalt dagger]

World Tour is WAY too grindy especially if you solo queue

[gray flare]

for real i keep getting matched with lobotomites

[steel heart]

every valid complaint made here gets hated on by the dozen no life lights that sit on here while their parents earn the money that keeps their tummies full of tendies.... this game is going to sheit because of the low iq community dominated by brain rot kids that refuse to admit the game has issues. nb4 "get good" im better tahn you try a diff class....

[jaunty vapor]

and ofc you call everyone better than you a light main

[solemn sedge]

medium is too oppressive. too much damage for the health pool and crazy meta defining equipment. light and heavy are so much harder to play and require much more skill (we don't talk about db). Just plz make the meta less stale. its just medium, medium, medium, occasional outlier, medium.

[leaden gate]

Team Name Suggestions:
The Trendsetters
The Landlords
The Finalists
And Finally, The Splashers

[somber gyro]

Volume slider for the crowd so I can turn it off.

[slate venture]

I wrote what in my opinion is wrong with this game and generally my ideas i would really love some of the higher ups to atleast read it <3

[still crater]

Add the ability for Non-party leader players to add friends into our groups. I hate when I join a game and I want my friend to join with me and I can’t even suggest to the system that I want the friend to come with me or something to that sense or that I still have the glitch where if you have too many friends, you are continuously scrolling down because the game auto scrolls you up And I have a lot of friends because I like friending people in the finals because the finals is a great game

[rapid stream]

revert the dagger radius nerf ong

[dawn valve]

Missing shots isnt a dishonest comparison when you consider mag size and RPM. You cant really quantify the full auto versus single fire trait, but we do know that single fire works best at range, like LH1, Pike and so on. In order for the V9S to outshoot XP it has be at very close range, which favors XP. The XP can pepper bullets in an area much more easily than the V9S, so people need to be less accurate.

Its more of a skill thing, which would be fine IF the tradeoff of being high skill means that I have a decent advantage, but from your chart you can see that in the 0-10 meter range the difference is nearly negligible, making even surprise encounters risky. And being high skill in the 10-20 meter range means little as the XP has large advantage, PLUS the 10-20 meter range is where the majority of shootouts are fought.

TLDR, the V9S seems to be built for close range, yet its a single fire weapon that struggles with close range accuracy, especially when on the move, which lights always need to be.

AND AGAIN NERF THE FUCKING CERB I WILL NOT STOP SPAMMING IT UNTIL YOU FUCKERS AT EMBARK BALENCE THAT POS

[torn talon]

For the love of god fix your spawns and cash out spawns

[west raven]

Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data

[cedar idol]

How about an acid gun (like deep rock galactic's) for heavy (not main weapon and specialization weapon)?
and something new with acid stuff (like a bottle of acid) that will destroy walls, etc.

[quick coyote]

Add a little section at the end of the game where we can give a little "like" to teammates and maybe even enemies that we liked to play with, like marvel rivals, overwatch and similar games, maybe every time you upvote them they receive something small like 10 fans for their sponsor, i would like to show my appreciation to teammates that really tried their best at world tour, I would also like Global chat to be added in casual modes to tell the enemy team that their drip is subpar, also remove LMAO from the chat filter, it makes the messages seem way worse than they were intended to be.

[short rock]

I think there should be some kind of system for rewarding playing creatively or stylishly, the type of stuff y'all show in your trailers and that people love to clip. Cashbox trickshots, kills with unusual stuff like jump pads or flowerpots, nukes, mass destruction, parkour, etc. I think it'd encourage players to focus more on having fun instead of exclusively being competitive. Make it just as effective to play silly as it is to play serious.

[indigo timber]

Bring back Bank It, can't bring myself to launch the game without it

[median lagoon]

You just said solo and shield in the same sentence. Shields work with team cooperation. Isn't mesh like the meta rn

[jagged cedar]

sword is by no means an op weapon but if you cannot see how the weapon is unhealthy in it's current state I cannot help you

revert the qm changes. quick melees are such a basic feature, they should not be as punishing as they are now. The insistence to remove all "tech", no matter how basic, is boring and only makes the game feel and play more stale for all demographics. Many weapons were also balanced around qm breakpoints, which havent been changed in accordance with the qm change, leading to model and ks being worse and sa12 and matter, while both being still good, feel underwhelming

@wet herald most diamond+ players will tell you how horrible the sound engine is, idk who you're talking to

[wet herald]

I can hear distance and direction easily and I don't have my volume very loud either. It's either a skill issue, settings issue, or headset issue.

@jagged cedar I play with a lot of diamond+ players and they don't have an issue. Must just be playing with people who aren't deaf

[quartz cedar]

Are we really now at the point of defending the terrible audio in this game? xdd my goodness

and yes, quick melee changes should be reverted. they are removing / nerfing too many skill expressions from the game

[shell jacinth]

Its more the dmg for me almost no point in picking it up over the xp. Other ars at least have a chance of survival upclose arn its almost impossible.

[celest tree]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6EuAUjq92k

[glossy steppe]

there is crossplay but no keyboard + mouse support on console please add thank you

[sinful finch]

need the old hud back or atleast the option to revert it

[cold bolt]

can we just remove all the outskirts portions of monaco

[marble hearth]

Day 10 asking for a more customizable music menu

[astral lance]

guhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i love you thank you for pointing this outtt, the gutting of gadgets has been so annoying to me, because they used to feel FUN to use, now its just "eh ill put this here and maybe it will help prevent a steal or sumn"

frags just, arent useful aside from really niche playstyles
pyro is a joke aside from goo counters but atp thermal, cerb, pyro mine, and flamethrower all do that job

im all for putting more emphasis on weapons, and i get that dying to a stray frag sucked, but gutting them (and stuff like mines and c4 especially in quantity) just feels a bit lame,

embark please PLEASE stop balancing around the high elo players, the casuals are what keep the blood of this game flowing, yeah theres a lotta weird opinions of course, always are, but the high elo players will adapt and overcome whatever change you throw at them, the casuals wont, if i wanna make a silly mine bomb thing let me, its fun, its unique to this game, its cool,

i agree there needs to be a limit, of course, we cant have nuke level stuff all the time, that was too much, but honestly, and ive been saying, add a damage cap to explosions, maybe make it so if you're at full health an explosion that would be guaranteed to kill you only takes you down to say 10 or 5 HP, or maybe limit the amount of mines in proximity to eachother, (ive always been a big advocate for re adding nukes on the precedent that they have a damage cap of like 200-220 or something)

removal is not the way of balancing, it only makes us use these items less not out of encouragement of trying new strategies, but rather disappointment that our current ones are ruined, i emphasize with the difficulty of balancing this game, but removal of content is no way to encourage longevity and creativity

THAT IS ALL, THANK YOU

[sterile canopy]

Potentially, but it appears that you did not. You just referenced some static values as though they were meaningful.

Outshooting it up to 11m and beyond 28m isn’t amazing, but its not that bad a setup either - but of course that’s not the main reason to pick it; it has very fast reloads and an 800 damage mag, which is quite important. That’s why I think it’s a viable option.

[tight oracle]

make jukebox able to change end of round music & add a “cinematic” mode where the finals music plays in the background while fighting others n stuff like payday 2, it has shakes so everything looks more dramatic, and make the movements more closed beta-y (example: the falling in closed beta looks more dramatic, i think we should bring that back along with the other exaggerated movements like the zipline riding movement as an option for those who want more dramatic & cinematic gameplay) the goal of cinematic mode is to make it more trailer-like, but it still keeps the ui though

[outer cloak]

How are we supposed to "Disrupt opponents movement by using Gadgets or Specializations 2 times"??? I tried using flashbang or glitch mine, but neither achieved anything. Can we get better descriptions with this stuff? Its awful

[brittle steeple]

let us switch sights in practice range 🙏

[autumn oyster]

seeding of other teams, other players Rank Score, or other players gameplay scores (such as combat score) will not be presented to players before or during the match
but we can't see it even after the match. The special accentuation on before/during implies that it should be available in other states but it is not in fact

[quick coyote]

Disrupt movement, not disrupt. Use winch, grav, lockbolt, etc.

[red arch]

thermal smoke is abysmally horrible to play against
cerb is too strong
cl does too much damage for the lack of skill required to play the weapon

[floral ibex]

this. yes

[halcyon patio]

Every now and then they decide the game is too fun and give the grenade launcher another buff

[stuck trench]

For instance, I dont like any of the melee or explosive weapons, and personally wish I didnt have to deal with them

AHEM

Bring back the stun gun

(good post btw)

[tired fable]

👆

[faint saddle]

NERF THE FUCKING CERBERUS OMFG
HOW CAN IT GO UNTOUCHED FOR SO LONG DELETING ANYTHING WITHIN 7M BY LOOKING AT IT
MEANWHILE WE NERF DAGGER TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE MISERABLE AND LETS SLOW THE USER FOR USING THE FUCKING WEAPON
THE SO CALLED BUFF DOESNT COMPENSATE FOR HOW DOGSHIT IT ITS FOR ITS INTENDED USE WHEN IT DOESNT WORK MOST OF THE FUCKIGN TIME CAUSE APPRENTLY ACCORDING TO REDDIT DAGGER NEEDED A FUCKING NERF

[rotund gust]

cerberus went from being fine on release and then got buffed into being pure cringe
@nova osprey yeah it was a bit too weak then got major buffage

[nova osprey]

It wasn’t fine on release that’s the problem, but ya it was over buffed

[cobalt kernel]

2 head shots and 1 body shot with the CB01 repeater should kill a heavy within effective range.. Right now Heavy still has like 25 left

[hidden cloak]

NERF LIGHTS RN [jkjk]

[muted grail]

NERF FLAMETHROWER

[modern ether]

nerf the famas, beats the akm and fcar stats wise so whats the point of having them if your going to keep the famas in its current that

[jade locust]

I suggest that if u want to add some new features but cant think of any, add a reel playback, like at the end of the game, gather all the good moments like headshots n stuff, and put it into a clip as if its from the show The Finals, kinda like mario kart stuff. Also btw dont nerf stuff its just bc people suck at the game and want everything to take 5 years to kill someone.

[indigo timber]

Bring back Bank It

[dusty totem]

emerald 93r next season pls 🥺

[fleet socket]

Could we please get a don't revive option? Accidentally selected the CL-40 instead of a gun and even tho I would try to say sorry then take self damage, I got revived 3 times making me stuck with the gun for the last cashout in quick cash

[cedar idol]

like and dislike system will be good and make good / bad reputatuion like in raibow six siege / cs 2 reputation rate system
if u have bad reputation (cause of cheating) u will play with same people

[unreal grove]

FSR4

[cerulean birch]

let data reshaper change which side gadgets are working for, i wanna be able to turn mines/turrets against their owners

[echo trout]

Since the Moolah charm already screams whenever we get kills, can we get a rare voiceline (perhaps after 5 kills in a single life) where the charm screams at the user "CONTESTANT FREE ME FROM THIS POLYESTER PRISON!!!!!". Thank you for your consideration. It could pretty funny.

[young drum]

Fix thermal. its been 6 seasons. Still can't see them. Askking for cosmetics is crazy

[crude saffron]

Can we get these exact glasses? please?

[lime lichen]

Nerf sword and xp-54

[subtle fractal]

You just mad you got killed by a sword bro, get over it

[hexed grove]

Lmao, real. The GLs are so annoying to play against.

[delicate marlin]

the number one thing I dont like about this game is the 3rd partying. In games like fortnite you have movement options, time and building to rotate out of third parties but in world tour/ ranked you dont.

I think having 1 vault with three teams like quick cash but limited tokens like world tour could be fun. SInce theres always going to be an extra team you can always prepare for the third party

[edgy radish]

day 341. Remove the sword.

[untold hazel]

nerf db

[tropic snow]

[dry fog]

It's balanced

[runic cargo]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[covert kite]

tournament seeding with alt accounts is a fantastic system! love everything about it

[indigo timber]

BANK IT COME BACK

[oblique spindle]

The minigun should get a dmg buff to the environment. I want to shoot at my feet and not wait 2-3 business days to get to the next floor. I want to punish people for trying to ignore me by throwing a goo grenade to separate me from the cash out by just pure lead hell fire. I want to be on the other side of a wall where all the madness is happening and disintegrate that wall and keep firing. To manage the chaos potential it could have a dmg fall off of like 5-7 m

[untold willow]

• buff SA fireate
• return tazer as a glitch gun + cancels steals + disables sprinting
• make it so quick reload on ARN is anytime on first mag not just on empty
• buff mesh regen time
• buff heal speed slightly
• buff model back to S5 dmg

make it so cashout in private round in ranked version and add option for everyone to be anonymous in the lobby.

[upper citrus]

let us put teams of 5-6 in the game for private matches using the final round gamemode

[faint saddle]

DO NOT buff the minigun, holy shit that thing is a monster in right hands
@pseudo latch
It just takes a hefty amount of skill to wield and isnt the classic gun

[quick coyote]

premades should NOT play with solos, they always win

[dawn valve]

True, I went off on a bit of a tangent there. I'll be honest I dont feel like mathing it out and min/maxing the numbers, but there is merit in someone who is very experienced making comments about the weapon. For example, just today I engaged a medium from the top of a building, ~20-25 meters away. I hit him 6 times in the body before he located and started shooting me. I then had to move around a bit to try and dodge, I missed 2 of 3 of my next shots, and in that VERY SHORT period he did 170 damage with the AKM and killed me. I did I think it was ~230 damage to him. I dont know how many shots he hit/missed.

This happens often, no matter how much I surprise people I only have a 60% chance of coming out of an encounter alive, and its NOT because I missed constantly, its because if I miss even ONCE, I can easily die. We were also only comparing the XP, the TTK on mediums versus any of the standard weapons (FAMAS, AKM, FCAR especially) is NOT enough.

Again, I haven't run the numbers, but I've played the V9S for at least 300 hours and am a diamond light main. Its not SUPER underpowered, it just feels like I need to try twice as hard for the same result as the XP, M11, ARN etc.

Also just for the AI summary they probs use for this:

NERF CERB

[lethal wolf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/PJBL033U0P

[rotund gust]

I LOVE THE FINALS POP. POUR. PERFORM.

[sonic arrow]

Buff ARN

[pseudo latch]

alternatively, buff the minigun.

[runic grail]

#BringBackBankIt just pls :(

[raw cloak]

Who agrees to add one sledgehammer skin called "broom stick" with its description saying "that's gotta help with the team wipe, just like wiping off dust in the arena"

[craggy otter]

daily reply.

[fierce valve]

I thought we could change game modes on the fly with Private Matches. Am sad.

[rich anchor]

Fsr 4 implementation

[teal bear]

This game is good. Sometimes some goofy bugs. But that's just part of the fun honestly. Love you finals.

P.s. please please can i get a new legendary goo gun skin PLEASE

[lethal wedge]

Who made this lmao 💀

[polar grotto]

who made this i want to thank them

cause i agree

#buffminigun

[rotund oxide]

Chatgpt made this wow.
I mumble to myself "skibity sensor out" everytime I deploy one of these.

[quasi delta]

you prefer long queues?

[tropic snow]

make ARN recoil consistent

[quick coyote]

I prefer long queues over getting stomped for 7 minutes by 2 premades? Yeah, I do. Ty for your asking

[deep cedar]

lockbolt skin: pirate ship cannon and it shoots a barrel that connects to players with hooks :D

[cloud fox]

"Cat abyss"

[haughty totem]

Nerf sword and patch the phantom strike back out of the game.

[errant crater]

nerf demat to the ground and remove defib

otherwise rename this game to The Mediums

[umbral swift]

Cerberus 12GA needs a very slight damage nerf. Currently, it is capable of doing 151 damage in a single hit (12 pellets that do 10 damage each + 31 burn damage).

A Medium or Heavy being able to do >149 damage in a single hit with a ranged weapon is unhealthy. The only reason it’s healthy Light can do 150+ damage in a single hit with a ranged weapon is because Light has only 150 HP, meaning a Light who oneshots other Lights can have the exact same done back to them. AKA, it’s perfectly symmetrical.

Light versus Medium or Heavy is not symmetrical because of the different HP values. Light cannot do 250 or 350 damage back in a single ranged weapon hit (nor should they be able to). Likewise, Medium/Heavy being able to do 150 damage in a single ranged weapon hit is also unhealthy.

• Pellets: 12 -> 13
• Damage per pellet: 10 -> 9

This reduces total pellet damage from 120 to 117 a shot, which changes zero breakpoints. 120 x 2 was 240, 117 x 2 is 234. 120 x 3 was 360, 117 x 3 is 351.

Burn damage is still 31, so this reduces total pellet + burn damage from 151 to 148. This changes Light breakpoint from 1 (+ Burn) to 1 + QM or 2.

This successfully solves with a mere 3 damage nerf, less than 2% of the original value, the problem of a Medium or Heavy ranged weapon doing more than 149 damage in a single hit, without compromising anything else. All other breakpoints with or without the burn will be the exact same.

• Medium: 2 + Burn, 2 + QM, or 3
• Heavy: 3

[brittle obsidian]

finals player discovers what breakpoints are

[mossy cape]

give ranked badges and emblems for previous seasons

[sterile canopy]

Dome shield is so good that not running it is just weird - it massively increases your ability to win a gunfight. It’s 300hp on demand!
Mesh shield isn’t on the same level of must-have but it’s definitely competitive; just reliant on playing well with your team to make full use out of it.

Barricade criticism is real though.

[marble tree]

Add kbm support to console

[odd ibex]

Add claymore sword for medium class,primary attacks r wide swings 170 degrees and holding alt attack blocks half the damage and deflect only a few but releasing it after holding it does a downward slash and the higher the damage the higher u fall so u can use dematerialise spec to attack players downward and surprise attacks,good combo with jump pad for very high damage.

[austere vector]

ONCE AGAIN ANOTHER -1,400 RS BECAUSE I DIDN’T GET A MF TEAMMATE. THIS SHIT HAS LITERALLY COST ME OVER 5000 RS THIS SEASON. SHIITY ASS RANK DESIGN. NO WONDER NO-ONE PLAYS ANYMORE

[elder quail]

Justice for bank it!

[iron leaf]

[T]/

[covert kite]

I just solo queued a ranked game and my teammates were silver 3 and gold 4, im currently plat 2.... the teams we played against were diamond/ruby. Explain to me how it also makes sense we are second seed losing 800 rs for 5-6 place. whatever rs adjustment is being put into place to average out teams is a good idea and all but holy shit I cannot keep babysitting new players going against top 50 teams, its not competitive for anyone and makes the games extremely one sided. Maybe the SBMM should be considered for fill teammates instead of just rank but considering I can queue up with silvers while im plat says otherwise.

[dreamy bane]

https://www.twitch.tv/ejm_1

[tough sigil]

Nerf the sun’s brightness

[dusty marsh]

would love see a Favorites system in place to see certain people higher in the social menu

[supple nebula]

add jeff

[summer bluff]

Unpopular opinion: SA1216 became too weak against other heavies. Fighting against sledge became a pain.

[sturdy sandal]

agreed

[wind meteor]

although I like the philosophy, but I think it would be completely unfair to make cover a non-existing concept. Some items do provide cover hacks, but they are either limited by time (dematerializer), by range (sledge hammer), by quantity/cooldowns (RPG and other gadgets)...

#👂┇game-feedback message @umbral swift honestly if someone can land all the pellets and deal such damage, then he should have it. Because they would need to have extremely good play and positioning to pull it off, especially without a cloak or extremely fast movement gadget. I really spent 6 shots on a Light at 5m to kill him, and when I am able to get a Light with 2 shots, I feel extremely awarded for the good high-risk flanking I did.

[odd ibex]

Add kusarigama for light,primary attacks hit like sword but alt attack is u spin the chain and blade 160 degrees in front of u and most damage where blade hits not the chain,it’s skill based cause u hold down alt and the more u hold the longer u throw and only the blade part damages when spinning plus u can move your aim while spinning to make blade go in that direction.

To simply put it,the melee alt is more like aim and shoot but use aim to move the blade and hit box.

There r two ways of implementing this,either the melee projectile starts from an arc from the left side and goes to the centre line and move as u change your aim or the projectile starts from the crosshairs and moves where u move your aim

U may change between the two using a different stance using the weapon inspection button or add more combos using that button.

Either u can’t use light spec when using alt or give this weapon to medium with a wall run gadget or else it’s the most dull experience chasing player as a medium

https://youtube.com/shorts/-71MHEADkVo?si=bu2BQZR8kTwY1Xo7

[sterile canopy]

We should have a beatboxing emote

[red arch]

the ARN feels good to use after the last buff
the cerb is overtuned
the repeater is honestly fine, i've never really died to it unless the person using it is an aimer, or im caught out in an open field with terrible positioning
cl doesn't require any skill but does too much damage, not sure why i have to track a monkey jumping up and down to win to survive with just 2 hp
xp is nice
i feel bad for invis players because seeing them >30m doesn't really feel right lmao
prox sensors and sonars feel like they have too much range, you can clear entire rooms with either, and hold way too much informational space with either of them
minigun is a fun weapon but a bit inconsistent
famas feels good to use but it might be slightly too easy to use

[west raven]

Nerf fucking light
Nerf fucking light
Nerf fucking light
Nerf fucking sword
Nerf fucking sword
Nerf fucking sword
Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data

[lament wyvern]

Nerf light and nerf sword. I agree with guy above ˆˆˆ. W Suggestion

[shell current]

reminder to nerf sword +dash, dash should cancel sword charge.

[ionic saddle]

Enable 4k 120hz on Xbox Series X. Zero reason not to be able to have both when I have a monitor that can do both.

Also fix the gold cosmetics so they're the SAME shade of gold. Can't mix half of em cause they don't match even though they're all supposed to be gold. Even the ozpuz stuff is not all the same shade of gold.

And STOP matchmaking me against T500 losers. This is why I turn off crossplay. I don't care how long Kid Vicious's queue times are I know I'm not supposed to be in this sweaty of a lobby

[weary drum]

Did Embark remove music effects that mean that a Power Shift round is about to end? Was it even a thing?

[deep folio]

just played ranked got a shit team lost played again even worse team lost again hate ts game

[signal basin]

deUpdate after patch 6.0 :
Still no stun gun. When claw do 5dmg, grab you and stun you, like the stun gun but it's still here and even buff this season. Nice. It's unfair. Claw + Hammer + Punch = Free Kill.

OH ! And I never see so many cheaters. S6 is from far, the most cheaters season since the beginning. Well normal. New seasons. New players and a lot of kids player who can't play by themself. Thanks cheat code and cronus.

For the game

• Add "step" in the reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completly reset.
• Increase the netcode/tickrate/servers. Getting kill at 3m far from a hammer/sword or behind a wall / door / cover is not ACCEPTABLE. Servers can't register your movements
• Perma ban toxic players and cheaters
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Let us go in practice with friends
• Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL and unfair for Light. Movement are cancel and they only got 150HP
• Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends and recent players.
• Dash is trash with your netcode. Servers can't register a dash behind a cover and you will die anyway
• **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer and their community to make the game more fun **
• Let us use our VR for XP weapons or other things (not from me but very interresting idea !)

** For balance **

• CB01-Repeater is just stupidly strong and OP. Nerf this weapons fast before all the new/come back players leaves your game again and for ever. EDIT : Nevermind, it's already happening
• CL40 buff was too much. Need to nerf it again. EDIT : AND YOU GIVE 1K$ by kill in WT for this !
• Buff Vanish Bomb and make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light and it can be use for your teammates too !
• The Sword buff was not necessary in 5.8
• Nerf Turret range.
• The FAMAS nerf is useless in 5.8
• Nerf proximity sensor range
• Nerf Cerberus damage.
• Nerf the range of the KS shotgun. You can put 100 dmg at 20m easy.
• Nerf PIKE to 48 instead of 50 dmg. You know what you did in 5.8 with that.
• LH1 nerf was to strong in 6.0. Buff it to 45 dmg.
• Buff Light survability or DPS. Light should be the DPS class but the game is always around Medium and Heavy class
• Nerf a bit Deagle damage or range
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls or other.
• Nerf the right clic sword + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword charged
• Revive and Objectives score should add additional points in ranked
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safety !

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

[stark pilot]

I'll keep trolling my ranked teammates with the dagger until Embark realizes what's more frustrating — the dagger player or a gun player.
It's ridiculous to nerf the dagger just because some noob says, "This weapon is frustrating to play against."
Against the player better than you are always frustrating, not because what weapon you take.
Maybe sword need some nerf, but DON"T REMOVE dash and second attack combo because all sword player just practice and practice a lot of time to make all attack powerful to enemy and keep themself alive,
You can observe the noob sword player, so fking bad, and easy to kill.
Sword is good in a great player, not just because this weapon is OP.
If embark remove dash and sword combo I would never play this game and tell all the player leave the FKING boring The Finals dev.
Embark, your team was a the world-best FPS dev, but those all 6 seasons change only make this game more and more boring.
PLS, just bring the old The Finals back, don't just make this game more and more boring and make this great game dead.
STOP just lisening the noob in feedback and only nerf the key point for weapon or remove something.
WHY low elo more mid elo player think light is good, because you just make the easy counter like RPG weak, just buff RPG and keep make light more useful in this game.
Maybe you can share healthybar too teammate when someone cause damage to make light more powerful, and make teamwork easier this game is FKING noob and soloq hell.

[terse slate]

If you are wondering why people are saying sword light are the greatest %@*! at the moment.
Here it is explained what needs a whole rework.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/iPrDk3dUVE

[night bough]

Seriously Embark... Why... Why do I have to play against emeralds and diamonds all the time when I'm not even gold...

[swift laurel]

remove the 5 second leave game timer, remove forced censorship from text chat (give us the option back), still camera offset when ads bug in game needs to be fixed and still no shoot no sprint bug in the game needs to be fixed

[undone igloo]

let us see how many wins/games/losses we have with each class

[stray wing]

Please bring back nadegrappling

[paper oak]

make revolver good

[subtle oak]

If you think sword needs a nerf thats a massive skill issue.
Use your brain and keep your distance

[broken lynx]

Sword melts in practicly 2 hits with dash ive played sword and its not fun

[shell rock]

I said this many times before and i will keep saying it while still using
The minigun needs a buff every aspect of it is outshined by another gun
Close range? Sa12
Range? Lewis and even m60 are more effective
Destruction? Ks23 only take three shots while minigun takes at best 90 and at worst which is basically more than 10 meters it basically doesnt exist
In other words the only and only thing it has is the ammo count and that alone doesnt mean anything
So please at the very least half the wind up time and make it a little more accurate so u r not just tickling people at ranges further than 10 meters

[old crypt]

Give heavy brass knuckles as a counter to sword/dual blades, medium should get another AR/SMG maybe the vector or the AN-94, and light gets the 3 round shotty from battlefield

[hazy orchid]

I'm once again asking for the ability to earn Ranked / WT coins instead of skins. Seasonal badges will still be locked behind their respective season but it sucks that most weapon skins will be locked behind a single season. If I reach Emerald / Diamond or even Ruby I should be able to choose one of the already released skins instead of a skin I might not even use by trading in one of their respective coins.

This would not only be a great QoL change but also encourage more people to actually grind these playlists leading to a healthier playerbase.

[shell current]

minigun also deals less damage when you aim for headshots because of its spray, so you have to aim body, but you get outdamaged by every rifle that can headshot you in higher ranks. also the spray increases when you move your mouse fast, so good tracking against fast targets is punished.

[covert kite]

You think doing 420 dmg to a full team with 2 buttons is balanced right?

[quick rampart]

hell yeah if you play far apart and press left click you can shoot the sword user

[sterile canopy]

You shouldn’t stand that close to each other even if it weren’t for swords

[drifting thistle]

no wonder when there taser gun, i dun see much sword haha. I give embark 3 more season for them to figure out how to rework taser gun. Currently right now already 1/3 season used

[signal tide]

Day 132 of asking yall to fix Flamethrower HitReg

[split mason]

In the new shop it’s actually more difficult for me to find “what’s new” then before. It seems cluttered. Additionally, is there an ML Recommender system made to increase sales? Content or collaborative based? It seems there’s a recommender system but not recommending things that I actually care about as a user. Just my 2 cents on increasing sales here.

[autumn oyster]

Such matches don’t have any sense. Imagine being stomped by top-1k players and having like 0.2 KD, but as compensation you just don’t lose many points...

The top priority for any competitive game should be to provide fair and balanced matches as much as possible. That’s what makes a competitive game/mode truly enjoyable or at least meaningful. The current ranked system is absurdly rewarding for full squads of high-ranked players, which leads to total stomps against solo players. Requiring solo players to find a squad before playing ranked would be a terrible design for player retention

👉 Please split ranked matchmaking between full squads and solo+duo teams. This is a highly competitive mode and playing solo against full squads that are conversating in Discord puts solo players in a huge disadvantage. If creating a solo-only queue isn’t possible due to a lack of players, at least separating full squads from solo/duo teams would make a big difference
👉 Please avoid matching players with a ranked difference of 5k+ in the same match. There's no one who will think -"oh i sucked with no break for 10 minutes but at least i just lost not much points so this if fine, i highly enjoy it!"

[wide summit]

BUFF KS-23!

[clear summit]

Can we get the sonar/tracking bug fixed? Kinda insane being able to see one or multiple people the entire game no matter how far away they are. It's been in the game for a while and I don't think it's ever been brought up in the patch notes. Thanks.

[rustic tusk]

Can confirm, I also get this glitch

[spiral ingot]

Would be great if it would be possible to position scopes on guns with a slider

[tight oracle]

i disagree we cant add too much stuff to the finals weapons for balancing reasons

[round isle]

If your hand is on the cash box the countdown timer should extend to accommodate the hand on the box

[twilit sand]

Please add an avoid list. I'm sick of getting the same guy on my team who has no clue how to play the game

[lime quest]

Can we stopped getting Suspended when we leave/disconnect from a match that you don't match with a full squad please?

[long burrow]

there was lit no reason to get rid of the scoreboard in rank sure i understand the rs but when theyre dead why remove that??

[jaunty vapor]

Contrary to popular opinion getting rid of scoreboard in rank was a great change
Those not aware of why just weren't using it to their full advantage

[quick coyote]

Make SoloQ players lose less RS in ranked (NOT GAIN MORE).

I don't think matchmaking should be split between random teams and pre-made teams but at least make it less punishing for teams that aren't pre-made and not very coordinated unlike the ones that are.
Splitting it would make it hell to find an actual game too.

[odd ibex]

Auto cross for heavy class and u can climb on top of the bolts https://youtu.be/LN1j3w0zchU?si=7g8onmgiaC2Qs8Fs

[stray wing]

Please make trackindarteffect able to stack.

I would wish for a new light specialization since Medium and Heavy already got one.

And I would Like the idea for a passive stat for some weapons (dagger, bow and dual blades for example), to make their Movement completely silent (running, ziplines, jumppad…). They Are Not that popular and strong weapons, this would slightly buff them but not too much and plays in their stealthy playstyle.

[west raven]

Nerf fucking light
Nerf fucking light
Nerf fucking light
Nerf fucking sword
Nerf fucking sword
Nerf fucking sword
Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data

[slender pine]

sword isnt broken enough lets buff pls

[shell shale]

FIX THE FUCKING RANK SYSTEM WHY AM I LOSING 1400 FOR A LOSS AND GAIN 600 FOR A 1st PLACE FINISH

[pale quest]

embark. PLS. add team wipe penalty option to private matches. for next update. we desperately need it for tourneys

(and "none" as in-game show event option)

[iron leaf]

Dear Embark Team, I’m in a low gold elo and matched against tow dias and one ruby player from last season.
As a low gold player I don’t have any chance against this players.
It should be impossible to match them in Ranked with gold.
Can you fix this?
While this works you shouldn’t get minus for playing against them pls

[glad pike]

Shoot the thing
It has 150 hp for a reason
🔥🔥🔥

[silent fog]

That's why so many top players complain about it. Makes sense.

[tender sail]

Your game has become overrun with cheaters agiain. Sort it out pls.

[mystic pawn]

Add damage to the wielder for cl-40 please never should a gl be a cqc weapon, thanks!

[rapid stream]

Revert glitch trap to Gltch mine and nobody complains

[chrome basin]

If I leave a game... MAYBE DONT FUCKING PUT ME BACK INTO THE SAME FUCKING GAME?

[wet herald]

Imo just make the slug 100% accurate while still having the bullet drop. It should go where I aim.

[sonic arrow]

Yes

[mortal egret]

I thought I was either bad or crazy but nah, after using the gun for 48 hours using it both defensively and offensively and it suffers greatly against anything. EVERYTHING has range on it except fuckin knives and shit

[lilac fjord]

Can someone please enlighten me as to why we're getting put against Ruby players when i'm Gold 1...

[indigo timber]

Make TDM shorter or one long round instead of 2-3. Also bring back BANK IT

[gloomy cradle]

I feel like flash has become even more oppressive than peak stun gun. At least then you could fight back. Love staring at a black screen for EIGHT SECONDS. Console player so can’t exactly just flick away or whatever the “counter strat” is

[median birch]

Light Sword+Dash is oppressive for a new player and annoying for midlevel play while being mediocre in high level play.

so what do we have currently?
its left click doing 74 (fine) right click damage being 140 with AOE (issue). sledge was changed to not multhit with its heavy attack for a reason do the same for this.
effective range of this increases by a lot when combining dash+ sword alt/right click, 6m 7m to something like 11m-12m although light becomes a human bullet. so he is vulnerable to mines and being shot while coming at a target.

this range increase makes so sword achieves slightly better range of effectiveness off the double barrel with the disadvantages of positioning and not able to interact with stuff if they don't get close (activating mines, damaging props and other stuff in the map), also being line of sight exposed when attacking to gunfire and gadgets

Assuming a light player uses dash +sword or dash + double barrel with both having vanish bomb...

So sword can do (140+40) (180) to oneshot light from 11-12m while double barrel two shots them in 10 m and needs to be at 4m-5m to oneshot them

So sword can (140+140) (280) to two shot medium with 11-12m while double barrel needs 6-7m to two shot them (light can also 140+40+74 for similar two shot)

So sword can (140+40)+(140+40) (360) to two shot a heavy with 11-12m while double barrel needs 4-5m to two shot them...

main differences important to point out double barrel has to reload sword does not, sword is forced to use dash to engage while double barrel can decide depending on situation. sword has AOE double barrel does not.

drop its alt fire damage to 120 and reduce AOE. about the AOE If the secondary would only hit in a straight line, that would be enough of a nerf for it. I'm OK with the range and all, but if your going for a Lunge, you shouldn't be able to draw massive circles to hit left and right of your corridor. Also lag and bad server tick rate benefit melee more then guns in general

[azure wedge]

The Eternal Problems with Light’s Sword and Medium’s Dual Blades:

SWORD:

• Its Right Click deals 140 damage, more than a mine, grenade, or RPG, and can be spammed.
• And Dash + Right Click is just MEGA OP, granting excessive mobility.

DUAL BLADES:

• The Deflect ability is absurdly OP, reflecting 100% of damage while also blocking 90% of direct and 70% of indirect damage. With 250HP, this can be abused indefinitely.
• However, despite lacking mobility, jump pads and ziplines aren’t the solution, and the mini-dash on melee hit mechanic is an overpowered mechanic that should be removed.

THE SOLUTION?
The most logical fix is to swap their class weapons:

• Make Sword a Medium weapon
• Make Dual Blades a Light weapon

DUAL BLADES in Light Class:

• Deflect abuse is reduced since 150HP means you’ll die quickly if overused. The ability still needs rebalancing because it's too OP, but just switching to Light Class already solves most of the problem.
• Mobility issues are fixed with Light’s Dash, eliminating the need for OP mechanics like mini-dash on melee hit.

SWORD in Medium Class:

• 140-damage spam is still a problem, but less abuseable due to reduced mobility. The damage should still be nerfed (it's basically a perma-RPG from Season 2), but this is a step in the right direction.
• Mobility abuse is addressed, limiting spam potential. The Right Click dash could be slightly extended to fit Medium Class, but overall, Sword would finally stop being OP.

This change isn’t just about balance, it makes visual sense, too. Light should wield small dual swords, while Medium should use a large sword.

Why Embark Needs to Act Now:
Ignoring these issues means losing players. Catering to 4% who abuse imbalance at the cost of 96% who quit is suicidal for the game’s longevity. With Season 8’s competitive mode on the horizon, Embark will face a harsh reality check if they don’t act now. The Finals is an amazing game with unique mechanics, but its poor balance is driving players away.

[honest verge]

Goo Gun specialization deserves assist credit when CCing an enemy that a teammate eliminates. It should also get credit for challenges regarding disabling enemies or affecting their movement.

[wild yacht]

So the team abandoned the game, and I still got deducted rank score. Can you fix that please? So annoying

[quick coyote]

yo is there a way to get the xbox gamepass bundle if i have it downloaded on steam?

I like to shoot people in THE FINALS 10/10

[shell rock]

sadly thats the truth

[paper oak]

make the headshot on light 150 with the revolver ,bodyshot can still 3 shot a light .

[fallow gust]

1. Add a ping indicator.

Dagger Balance Suggestions:
1. Make it so that the character slows down only when the dagger is fully charged for an attack, but keeps normal speed while charging.
2. Allow charging the attack at least while climbing, or even better, make it so climbing doesn’t cancel the charge.
3. Increase the backstab angle from 150° to at least 160°.

[earnest crag]

please add functionality to adjust color, vibrance and exposure settings in game; it's so annoying getting permanently flashbanged on sunny las vegas

[spiral hemlock]

gl should do more damage to self, damage to other players is fine

[echo linden]

Imagine if they added a full auto pistol to lights like a switch or some shit

[pine raft]

split the sounds settings, so people can turn down all the clutter if they want
@wide summit ???? u can literally change it what are u talking about

[smoky gust]

also, please consider changing daggers charge to be like throwing knives
just hitting charge should always fully charge it, and have it trigger as soon as possible if let go early

you can get used to and play around downsides like increased commitment
but you cant really play around inconsistency like being unable to tell if dagger is fully charged or not, where being a split second too early can just completely prevents a stab

[wide summit]

actually they need to just fix how voicechat works as I gotta have it down to 15 out of 100 or my ears bleed. Also why do invites dissapear after the short time frame? Friends gotta be literally looking at the screen or totally miss my invite and I cant send a msg for some odd reason.

[sullen ridge]

Yes

[tribal spoke]

Obviously dual blades aren't op as you make it sound and it can't be abused infinitely. Also mini-dash? Before making a claim like that I suggest you try playing the weapon in ranked. To the devs: Please buff the dual blades by removing the combo and replacing it with flat 60/60 damage slashes.

[cobalt kernel]

#BringBackBankIt !

Also remove sword + dash combo by locking it from being equipped together or cancel the charge attack when you use the dash

The only people vehemently defending this broken gimmick combo are a loud and fringe minority using it, EVERYBODY else from Light to Heavies cannot stand it. I would argue it's even worse than original Nuke, that you could at least shoot out of the heavies hands

edit: This guys Suzu below (who i have blocked for months) has a whole wall of text ready to be copy pasted in a matter of seconds i posted this, you cant make it up

[umbral swift]

Sword is perfectly balanced and healthy. It’s strong in enclosed areas because it’s a fucking melee weapon on the lowest HP class in the game, so it literally has to be or it would be unusably bad even in close quarters.

• Lunge doing 138+ is mandatory to be viable. <138 = Breakpoints are garbage.
• Quick Melee comboing is mandatory to be viable. No QM comboing = Breakpoints are garbage.
• Dash-lunge synergy is mandatory to be viable. No synergy = Bad even in closer ranges.
• Multihit is mandatory to be viable. No multihit = Unusable if more than 1 enemy exists.
• Lingering flicks are mandatory to be viable. No flicks = Can only go straight = Over-predictable = Useless, especially vs ranged hitscan.

Burst shotguns still shit on Sword even in melee range. In return Sword is literal trash in open areas. And this is a game where you can destroy nearly any part of the map.

People refusing to do any of the many counters in the game is entirely their own fault. This isn’t specific to Sword either. Same goes for something like short-range guns versus long-range guns in short-range fights and long-range fights, one side will always have to do something or play differently to make up for the inherent disadvantage.

There are playstyle and equipment counters to every single thing in the game. Sword or not, every situation will not always be an even 50-50 odds of winning, that’s stupid. Sometimes you’ll be advantaged and it’ll force enemies to play around that, and sometimes, the enemies will be advantaged and force you to play around that.

[brittle obsidian]

let us hold the reload button to manually mag swap the arn/tube swap the sa12

[thorny dagger]

The goo gun stun time has to be reworked when shooting on enemies, they are stunned for too long and a heavy can keep stunning them over and over again mkaing sure the enemy cant escape.

[faint saddle]

He means the very OP 3m melee lunge dual blades have, very op dash trust

[solar bone]

I skipped a few days but

DAY 9 of asking for a spawn fix/rework teams spawning on 3rd party’s. Vaults 45m apart. Cashouts 50m apart cmon…

[warm mauve]

Bring bank it back

[proper dove]

is anyone else having an issue with launching the game? I'm getting an error with EAC saying createfile failed with 32 (error code 30005)

[cosmic zodiac]

I lost 900 ranked score when both my teammates who had 0 kills left with 3 mins left in the game. Feels good. Thanks embark.

[quick coyote]

Please add actual platform icons for crossplay. 6 seasons late but still needed.

[vestal coral]

do you really want this game to die? It's always full of problems! especially regarding the servers! one game out of 3 the servers are garbage!

lag happens too often, but then the strange and ridiculous thing is that you start and the first match goes well and the second one the servers suck.

[sage shale]

How to FIX the SWORD: HARD TAKE

• Add a slowdown to the aim or lock it during the animation.
• No more spinning in a room doing 420 damage instantly
• No more side lunging

[surreal shoal]

Finals best game

[main drift]

just get better

[tawdry wadi]

Add killcam it would be perfect

[stray wing]

Please increase damage of trackingdart so that at least two Shots or three destroy canisters, mines, breachcharge etc. But all Four not beeing enough is bad

[indigo arch]

Are you planning to release the game on Nintendo Switch 2?

[noble bramble]

Please allow for the equipment wheel to be available for PC players, it helps immensely with accessibility issues. It is currently broken, thanks

[stark pilot]

I'm a dagger player.
PLS, add random recoil and bullet spread to all guns, so dagger players feel less frustrated when going up against good gun players.
That’s a joke, of course—but what Embark did to dagger players feels just like that.

Embark ruined all the practice dagger players put in, just to make the trash weapon more unplayable because someone said:
"Ohh, my KDA is 20/5 and the dagger guy is 5/10—dagger, he kill me, dagger is too OP. What a horrible weapon, it's so frustrating to play against."

So fking ridiculous.

[steel heart]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1jspnjw/this_is_the_answer_to_why_the_hell_does_this_even/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Crazy that pointing this out gets you called bad at the game by all of the children who live on this discord.

[slow escarp]

nerf the turret please just a little, maybe a slower rate of fire. and i feel like it shouldn't be able to shoot if its laying on its side

[hollow bobcat]

Day 5 of asking for a Spear buff:
Among many of the Spear’s problems, one of the most noticeable when using it is it's shockingly low DPS. Here is a list of guns that can out TTK the spear in Melee range while also being able to do damage from range.

Spear:
Light - Medium - Heavy
1.80s - 2.50s- 3.20s

Heavy v Heavy:
.50 Akimbos: 1.83 > 3.2
Lewis Gun: 1.6 > 3.2
M60: 1.6 > 3.2
KS-23: 2.47 > 3.2
SA1216: .80 > 3.2
SHAK-50: 1.57 > 3.2
MGL32: 2.67 > 3.2

Medium v Heavy:
AKM: 1.7 > 2.5
CL-40: 2.3 > 2.5
FCAR: 1.4 > 2.5
Model 1887: 1.6 > 2.5
R .357: 1.6 > 2.5
Pike-556: 2.1 > 2.5
Cerberus-12: 1.8 > 2.5

Light v Heavy:
93R: 1.64 > 1.8
V9S: 1.33 > 1.8
M11: 1.26 > 1.8
XP-54: 1.48 > 1.8
LH1: 1.5 > 1.8
SH1900: .75 > 1.8
M26 Matter: 1.41 > 1.8

Note: These damage numbers come from patch 1.5.5 and takes into account only body shot numbers. The spear numbers come from its M1 standard attack, not the spin. I just wanted to illuminate that even when Spear has the first shot on another player, how often they lose. Thank yall embark for continuing to do an amazing job on my favorite game and please consider buffing the spear in any capacity!

[brittle bloom]

Wdym dagger is even more op right now, they should nerf sword or at least dashes. Both of them are a nightmare for new players and I have seen them struggling with high-level players in gamemodes such as quick cash its unfair

[elfin badge]

seperate face make-up and body tatoo?

[slender girder]

Idk if people would agree with this, but I would like see a rework of the shotguns.

To me it would make more sense and bring more aspects to them if they had better range and spread if you zoom aim, past 5m or so.

Would need a rework of existing range, spread and damage, but I think the game could benefit from it in the long run.

[small crest]

Change up how the zip line works, the one that you can use to go up in a map, where the rope isn't in your way so you can see more clearly who's right below or above you.

[west raven]

Change the fucking matchmaking system
Change the fucking matchmaking system
Change the fucking matchmaking system
Nerf fucking light
Nerf fucking light
Nerf fucking light
Nerf fucking sword
Nerf fucking sword
Nerf fucking sword
Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data

[vapid valley]

The average player after they die

[dusty beacon]

Has anyone ever suggested a Nickname system for people who play cross platform?

[rough storm]

Nerf sword

[dark niche]

tbh..i dont see the problem w the dagger angle being changed..i think it was for the better
ive been maining dagger the past week or two and there's been a few times when i feel like i shouldve gotten a backstab, but didnt, and thats okay! this weapon is so so fun to use & is still pretty good even w the nerf imo? idk thats just my thoughts. though something that should change imo is that it seems like you cant get a stab on someone holding up the dual blades..? like it has the deflect sound and everything if you try to hit someone holding up the dual blades from the front. idk its just a little silly ^_^ keep up the good work embark

[random oasis]

please bring back stun gun

[paper oak]

more sights for the revolver

[elder birch]

Day 1 of asking the sa12 to be unerfed.

[short meadow]

Team death match spawns are absolutely horrible, and the new maps are not enjoyable to play on:
Areas featuring tons of open spaces, or tons of verticality are extremely easy to abuse when teams do not spawn even remotely close together. When you're doing it, it feels great, when it's happening to you, it's horrible. Not an enjoyable experience.

Light's Pistol being extremely spamable is cool, but the ability to hit shots at range is incredibly upsetting, you probably won't kill anyone consistently, but you can plink people indefinitely and keep them low. Due to its low recoil (which is fine), it successfully oppresses people at way longer ranges than is expected. I propose giving it the same treatment as the Heavy's Shak 50, and using two bullets that eventually split, making it less effective at longer ranges without nerfing the overall visibility of the weapon.

I also recommend removing the half second of spawn invulnerablity from Defibs. You already get a ton of information while you're in third person, and functionally being a wall for a few rounds can negatively impact other players that have already killed someone. In the same breath, do not count additional deaths for players that haven't even been able to heal to full. People that jump into a room to revive, then die, won't go away, but punishing players that are only guilty of dying is not fair to them. Would also recommend not counting the revive at all for them unless the other player gets a kill, heals a substantial amount, or after a reasonable time.

Glitch grenades should have a SLIGHTLY larger radius, and either explode on impact with anything, or have a shorter fuse time after impact.

The time before being able to shoot, melee, or interact after dash should be lengthened substantially. There's no reason that people should be getting kills because they fling themselves through you, this style of play is not fun to fight against.

The recent invis, 1887, and Sa12 nerfs were unwarranted. Thx

[supple nebula]

add jeff

[random smelt]

Do it. You know you want to.

[honest verge]

Polishing through QoL and bug fixes would be nice. From the UI not showing teammates loadouts in various circumstances, to Goo Gun not giving credit in the same way that environmental eliminations didn't grant credit. Otherwise the game is solid so far this season from what I've seen.

[simple hull]

I know devs don't pay attention to this, but I'm done with supporting this game. Every match is filled with melee and other cheese weapons. You've given too many utilities that make it so marksmanship is no longer rewarded. Best of luck, I'm done

[rocky plover]

Fix ranked. Im tired of Second seeding but somehow facing the top 500 bitchless losers of the game on a constant basis being plat 4

[kind peak]

I think there should be a dagger skin that's just a brick, the chamber animation is holding it over your head

Also when are we getting a gravity gun (it's the gravity glove but stronger cuz it can rip out parts of the wall as well as picking things up and it does more damage when throwing things)

[vestal coral]

no don't say it or they'll tell you skill issue, however I think exactly like you, it's been since the second season that only noob weapons are used. The skill in this game counts for little or nothing, and it's getting worse, now you only see melee weapons or weapons as you say cheese. Every game is full of hammers, swords, spears, flamethrowers etc... now almost no one shoots anymore and it's an fps 😂.

[frail bear]

Swords should be tweaked so that DMG is based on the initial momentum of the heavy attack. So that towards the end of the animation it does less damage, movement speed should also slow down after heavy swing for a short duration. It feels very forgiving to miss and then lightly tap someone at the end of the animation and do full heavy DMG.

[undone plank]

Yes

[faint saddle]

It still destroys anything in its effective range

[weary pine]

Unerf SA1216 / Bring back animation cancelling
Buff KS-23 / Bring back animation cancelling
Nerf XP-54
Nerf Cerb
Fix Sword

[chrome basin]

Please for the love of fucking GOD! Get rid of the fucking 5 second waiting timer. Instead of making me want to quit the match its wanting me to fucking uninstall this game

[keen walrus]

#BringBackBankIt

[wicked panther]

...they nerfed the Sa1216?
literally why

[limpid orchid]

still S tier

[indigo timber]

#BringBackBankIt

[vestal rapids]

Fix the fucking team balance in wt incredible what for mates we became

[hearty lodge]

Fix dagger

[pseudo latch]

Sbuff sbe sbinigun

[marble hearth]

Day 11 asking for a more customizable music menu

[covert nest]

Why do I have to go against diamonds in quick play. There is just no point in playing. Whats the fun? Come on embark... you are better than this

[steep anchor]

add matchmaking to quickplay. Just one strict enough to prevent one team being farmed on spawn by another (happened to me in PS) with like 3-25 kills by the end of the round

[sacred cypress]

give each map with suspended structure the bernal treatment. Sponsored Structures are waaaaaaaaaay better to play than that hot steamin pile of shite in monaco

[rose basin]

does looking away from flash seriously do nothiong???

[olive fulcrum]

Add more creative game show elements... I really thought we'd be further along in adding wacky fun stuff into the game at this point in the game's life.

Focusing on esports is just not the way.

[somber gyro]

Volume slider for the crowd so I can turn it off.

[sonic arrow]

Lore accurate LH1

[cobalt kernel]

#BringBackBankIt

Also, 2 head shots and 1 bodyshot with the repeater should kill heavy within effective range

[tame vessel]

Embark please increase the damage of the spears first basic attack from 65 to 70 so it will be 70, 80, 90 and also increase the spin attacks damage from 105 to 120, if the sledgehammer can kill a heavy with 2 overhead charges then the spear should be able to kill a heavy in 3 hits of the spin attack not to mention, there a long delay before doing a second spin attack

[rotund gust]

it'd be nice if you could preview voices in inventory and store because some heads have different voices and then some headgears modify them too. It could have the hello and hype random lines

[mellow narwhal]

sword nerf soon pls

[umbral swift]

Sword doesn’t need nerfs.

[frozen plinth]

This game is unplayable. Please Add sights for Dagger, and Sledge.

[foggy nymph]

A sight on the sword would truly make it OP

[round perch]

need help in game i have mini laggs and frezzes but mini, its fuckt me up

[dawn valve]

Embark are you just incapable of making changes? There are some obvious things that people are calling for:

Cerb Nerf

XP Nerf

These should have been fixed by now, but instead you let people run wild with broken weapons for weeks before doing a goddamn thing

[vital kettle]

when defending a cashout station, why i'm not getting any cash points? it's absolutely not fair that if someone get the cashout station the last second wins the game

[rapid stream]

Remove glitch trap

[keen sable]

Run further away when the cerberus shoots and it negates all damage.

[mellow geyser]

Are you going to fix any of the fundamental problems with your game? Or is it perfect?

[mystic geyser]

💀 how is bro upset about LIGHT users

[lethal vortex]

wy did embark down grade erning fits we had events for whol fits andd its gone so we only have one whole fit every season instead of 4-5 withh events (sad to see)
battle passs not includet

fit = featured items .handycapping there own potential to get more players engadge to the game
talking about something the drip chek part of the comunity does not care
to earn your drip is more engadgin then to earn a new wappon skinn

[pastel flax]

I think Daily Contracts should have varying XP gains. Dealing 1500 damage to the arena and performing 10 headshots have wildly different levels of difficulty.

[bleak bluff]

Skill issue dwag 💀🙏

[gray flare]

cerberus is not overpowered. you are playing a glass cannon. either keep your distance or kill them faster than they can kill you. all of light's close range weapons can one clip a medium faster that they can react to you and get 2 shots off.
the weapon is a little overturned, sure, but acting like it's a game destroying meta warper is completely ridiculous.

[nova osprey]

Both of these need a nerf, but I feel xp needs it more

[autumn oyster]

why is this even possible? Any why is this on my team?

[jaunty vapor]

lmao RIP dakota
Possibly a stack

[dusty river]

just my 2 cents. people are mostly complaining about sword because stun gun is gone so they just jumped on the next bandwagon.
also can we get some info on stun gun. i'm getting real tired of chain hook heavies.

[versed cloud]

Cloaking device as a specialization is bad game design.

[noble path]

this game is doomed if you do not fix the oversights accumulated over updates

1-) sledgehammer's range is halved due to the "server desync mitigation" you made and never returned back to normal after fixing of server issues

2-) goo gun bugs have been ignored for three seasons

3-) sledgehammer input delay, broken animations and broken hitbox still has not been fixed after 3 seasons

4-) riot shield and dual blades bugs have been ignored for 3 seasons

[jagged cedar]

EU servers are so much better than NA ones. Im getting similar performance despite being across an ocean

[opal ocean]

Keyboard and mouse support to console soon please my dearest Embark

[hard shuttle]

Buff medium weapons please
Sword doesn't need a nerf, people need to play as a team.

[lean lynx]

K&M support on consoles and when enabled disables the ability to turn off crossplay

[rigid wind]

…it has the quick mags for a reason

[wraith socket]

rank progress should be on the front page

[sweet monolith]

Why? I feel like it’s perfectly balanced

[placid obsidian]

Theyre working on it

[polar grotto]

buff sword

[random smelt]

Add spectate games, Bank it, and maybe imo I want a kill resets half or 25% of cooldowns.

[faint saddle]

Buff dagger and nerf cerb already

[cobalt dagger]

World Tour is way too grindy for how long the seasons are. On average, a player would need to play at least 90 minutes of only WT every day in order to reach Emerald 1. Even longer if you solo queue and don't typically have a squad to play with on a regular basis.

I think that Embark should either experiment with having longer seasons, or giving players more ways to earn Win Points in World Tour to make the game mode less of a grind. I feel like I have to sacrifice playing other game modes solely to focus on WT in order to make it to Emerald. It's the one thing about this game I really don't like, although I love playing WT so it's not SO BAD.

Also, random other thing I'd love to see in this game is more fun, wacky mascots. Like, Imagine if each team name had a fun wacky mascot in addition to a logo to accompany them. I love how this game takes inspiration from sports so stuff like mascots would be awesome in my opinion. Think of the cosmetics! \

[honest abyss]

HEY, NEW CHEAT. PEOPLE CAN SEE US RIGHT ON SPAWN THROUGH THE TREE LINE. Getting beamed accross the map, there's no line of sight and we didn't look at them.

[quick coyote]

Matchmaking is atrocious to be honest, this should be your biggest priority going forward, all my friends I try to convince to play end up quitting because it's an extremely frustrating experience for new players.

[tribal spoke]

Dual blades theoretical ttk at 1.8 meters vs med: 1400ms | Cereb ttk at 3 meters vs med: .65 seconds. The non melee weapon heavily outperforming the melee weapon at melee range 🙃

[nocturne crater]

Cheaters, cheaters, cheaters

[tough merlin]

Tbf it is a shotgun, shotguns are "melee" version of a gun (in games at-least)

[mellow narwhal]

World tour point system needs a rework, getting 6 points for getting into round 2 is insane.

Realistically getting 3rd in round 1 should net you 3 points then second and first should be 5 points
Second round 3rd place should get 5, second and first should net you 10(these all stack with the finals round results) winning final should net you 30 points losing should net you 20

so all in all in round one you come 1st you get 5 points, in round 2 you come first again you get 15 and in the final if you win you get 45 points. ATM the point system just feels meh this is me spitballing btw if you've got better solutions i would love to here it.

[Light]
Xp didn't need a damage increase it needed more in the mag
Sword needs a dmg nerf to 110 and making it so it either cant be combines with dash or that it cant multi hit
Invis is next to impossible to see in the nighttime setting (not a balance suggestion more of a compliant)

[Heavy]
minigun feels like it needs just a slight accuracy cone buff
Feels like winch didn't need the range buff it was already strong as is(reverting the range would be ideal)
Ks23 needs better hip fire

[Medium]
Cerberus is very unique it should have its fire damage be the brunt of its damage, every pellet should start fire damage but its overall pellet damage (that isn't from be fire) should be nerfed probably round to less than the model so 10 - 11 per pellet.
Famas might need a slight recoil adjustment to make it less easy (currently the best ar by a mile) and/or a damage nerf

Additionally would love for clubs to be expanded upon, we have contracts for clubs i would love to see a leveling system giving players a unique cosmetic for reaching certain clan levels, club contracts aren't the only thing that should level the club up playing and winning with club mates should increase rank (not as much as the contracts but should still impact the level)

Might just be me but playing light without stun gun has been great as it frees up an extra slot and makes it so i can experiment with other gadgets without feeling like a big detriment to my team play (would love for it to either be not a guaranteed pick for high level lights kit or removed completely) i feel this way about defibs as well as they trivialize resing and fights most of the time plus them and movement are instant picks for mediums kits in high level.

If you have any better suggestion about any of the changes I brought up id love to hear them 🙂

[white anchor]

@fickle linden for some reason the gameplay is the most smooth after a new season update but then it degrades and lags a lot.

Maybe that's why riot shield range is dumb cause of server problems.

[dusky portal]

Please add mnk support for console to increase numbers, game is extremely hard to play with a controller when everyone else has a mouse. This would improve overall player retention

[vestal coral]

buff AR medium please and in the new season give a nice automatic assault rifle, no burst or semi-automatic

[supple nebula]

add jeff

[cedar cave]

Are we ever going to fix this? Not only are none of them new but it resets with every launch. Been an issue as long as I can remember. Insanely low priority but just wondering.

[weary pine]

Unerf SA1216 / Bring back animation cancelling
Buff KS-23 / Bring back animation cancelling
Nerf XP-54
Nerf Cerb
Fix Sword

[gray flare]

ok now tell us the ttk when you miss 1 cerb shot vs when you miss 1 sword swing

[errant crater]

fix thermal for fucks sake its been a year and half and yall havent dont shit to it

[rotund gust]

this is crazy but Id give XP45 0.5 less damage 😅

[plain lotus]

@zealous pine patch notes

[candid badge]

nerf or rework light for the love of god

ignore the person below me they are rage baiting

[umbral swift]

Light is balanced and healthy in its current state and does not need nerfs or reworks

[karmic sandal]

Make more shorts please

[covert nest]

Biggest QOL feature I can think of right now would be to see other players career profiles

[dusty totem]

add a musket for cashout defense (with a fixed bayonet of course)

[indigo timber]

Bank It still isn't back? That's rough

[odd ibex]

it’s just too much to deal with playing with weapons that maybe good on paper but not fun to use like 93r and the new light AR.
Ranked players may take advantage of high damage weapons but we play for fun not to sweat and win.

Make 93r have more fire rate like reducing the time between bursts,make it shoot 5 bullets and make them incendiary and name the gun spitfire which makes more sense.

The new light AR needs reduced recoil.

The ks23 needs slightly higher projectile speed as even in mid range u have to lead your shots and it looks like it should hit but doesn’t and bullet deviation makes it worse.
It needs wall penetration and headshot 1.2x to make it truly unique and stand out.

Light breach charge needs to stack damage atleast close to what it was in season1

[burnt ridge]

melee weapons shouldn't be allowed to turn their camera when holding a charge/using the charge attack

[elder folio]

Do not do that 93r change, bumass idea. Literally just making it a completely different gun, what? Give it more DMG or a 2x hs or no burst delay, but sure as hell don't do whatever you were saying. And the light ar kinda already has really good recoil? Maybe make it more at the start but less over time so it's like the other guns.

[strong sluice]

Remove the sword. It's broken AF!

[upper citrus]

let us put teams of 5-6 in the game for private matches using the final round gamemode

[dawn valve]

ONCE AGAIN, NERF THE FUCKING CERB

And fix ur fucking servers, I'm so tired of dying behind walls

[icy marsh]

This game is 99% awesome. But who ever is coding the spawn logic is actually dumb

Everything about the spawns in ranked is pretty bad. Iv explained in detail a lot before so I’m just not bother anymore. The devs have been on some crack shi with the way they approach spawns in this game

[sacred siren]

this wasnt an issue before, so please fix. after every match, my mouse gets yoinked to the center of my screen. happens for all game modes, and this wasnt the behaviour in s2/3. doesnt matter if im alt-tabbed to another window either

[chilly cedar]

the 93R is based off of the Beretta 93R (if you couldn't guess from the name, lol). It's a 3 round burst pistol chambered in 9x19mm. giving it a 5 round burst would ruin the likeness it has to the real life counterpart. I think a better solution would be to give the 93R a slight damage buff to make hitting the full burst meatier and more impactful or to shorten the time between bursts, giving it a mildly better ttk.

(Fun Fact: the Beretta 93R was also featured in Modern Warfare 2019 as the Renetti, just missing the foregrip and adding the optional buttstock as a stock attachment. it was an absolute monster in MW2019, I hope Embark listen and make it even half as good as it was in that game.)

[upbeat kernel]

Just my daily fix the servers PLEASE!

[rough storm]

Nerf sword or let us bann a weapon per game

[random smelt]

Can you add a feature where I can spectate my previous games and look at other peoples POV's too please.

[hard magnet]

No real feedback in this message, I just wanna say that after watching macro's re-review of the finals I realized that I forgot what it was like to appreciate this game, despite is flaws, and oh boy does it have some, but it's still so incredibly unique. Thank you embark for creating The Finals, and thanks to Ospuze for sponsering this heartfelt message! Ospuze, you can do it!

[somber gyro]

Volume slider for the crowd so I can turn it off.

[lethal vortex]

one more time, wy did embark down grade erning fits, we had events for whol fits and funn modes, its gone so we only have one whole fit every season instead of 4-5 with events (sad to see)
battle passs not includet
-̶̃̍-̴͆͊-̷̈̔-̴̈̑-̶̒̀-̶́̍-̶̊---̴̽̎-̶̍͠-̴̾͝-̷͒͝-̷̓͠-̷̾------́-̷̚-----̶̈̓-̷------̶̛̒-̴̆̂-̵͆̏-̸͑͐-̴̿̄-̵----
-----̶̒̀-̶́̍-̶̊͋-̸͊̈́-̶̃͌-------̸͋͛-̶͝-----̷̚------̈́̀-̶́̔-̶͗͝-̶̈́̉-̵̕͘-̵͌̕-̶-------
fit = featured items .handycapping there own potential to get more players engadge to the game due to giving more meaning to there character/contestent
talking about somethinG EMBARK does not care about to have a more meaningfull game they handy cap there potential to have more players and a creative mind, to put wappon skins in stead of an event to optain a fit

[atomic geyser]

holy moly that’s alot of typo, but real

[tender dragon]

Is there a way to look at previous matches to report a aimbotting teamate?

[plush canopy]

embark please amd frame gen and fsr3

[nova osprey]

Thank you, its good to see others watched macros video, I really fucking hope that they take a look and really consider the WT changes he suggested

[brittle bloom]

nah, we've been complaining about stuff for a while and the game isn't ded

[devout mirage]

nerf lockbolt health

[fleet quiver]

real

[pseudo latch]

BUFF

THE

MINIGUN

[warped axle]

Eventally your gonna need to make one of those infinite zoom in art peices

[errant crater]

nerf the fuck out of medium im tired of every ranked lobby being a medium infestation demat defib and healing beams get old quick medium has been the strongest class since season 1. i never forgot recon. that killed ur game at launch

[opal ocean]

Keyboard and mouse support for console please embark 🤞❤️

[placid obsidian]

Pickaxe skin for the sledgehammer. En Memorium of "CHICKEN JOCKEY"

[candid badge]

nerf the fuck out of light im tired of every lobby being infested with lights teleporting around and going invisible just to one tap you or mag dump you from across the map.

[jagged cedar]

this isnt a cheat, this is just people pinging you through the trees

[honest abyss]

With what; we just spawned in and immediately shot at. We can't see them through the dense tree leaves; in theory, they should not on the other side. They have nearly zero line of sight (base on human eyes resolve); 2 of my teammate question the same thing. None of them run tracking dart. We are in the jungle dense area in Monaco and get shot at from guys on top of building half the map away. How do they even know when spawned there right with in first second? It happens twice so its no random thing.

[mystic surge]

Should be a hud removal keybind or settings options. I like taking nice screenshots from here and there so that’ll be nice

[atomic basin]

happy the melee weapons still are made well

[quick coyote]

1. Matchmaking is terrible
2. premades shouldn't play with solos.

[languid gate]

Bring back bank it. Please and thank you.

[limber verge]

Say hi to Kenny down at the gas station for me.

[proud loom]

im advocating for the defib nerf thefinalscentral suggested how the pixels can be shot preventing a succesful revive. im tired of all my hard work going down the drain after 3 mediums defib chain each other.

[surreal meadow]

the spawns this season are fucked, you will spawn in the same place more often than not so you will always get prefired in good lobbies

[indigo vigil]

yo the audio in this game is fucked

[hybrid rune]

I think SA12 needs a slight tiny buff not crazy but just a slight buff

[potent pawn]

Add a silence grenade

Within its area of effect, you can't hear anything at all

Great for attacking without your position being given away by the sound of your shots or steps

[reef spade]

not sure if its a great idea considering a lot of people have trouble figuring out sounds in this game

[random smelt]

add it. do it. be it.

[gusty smelt]

It needs more memes

[modern grail]

Hey! I've been playing the finals for awhile, and there is one weapon this season I have been having some complaints with.

The dual blades this season have been feeling a lot more "repressing" then other seasons. And I feel like the reason is because it is essentially a weapon that shuts down all ballistic weapons.

I say this because if a medium is using dual blades, as long as they hold down the aim key and look at you, you can't do anything to fight against it if you aren't running and ballistic weapons, and to counteract this you either have to swap weapons entirely to the CL, grenade launched, Bow and arrow, or any non ballistic weapons or have someone else with you which most times is unlikely to occur.

Now, the ballistic shield is similar as well, but you can still fight back if you don't have a projectile weapon or teammate by shooting the feet, however the dual blades block the ENTIRE body and also reflect the bullets back at the opponent.

I feel like there shouldn't be a damage nerf but more so a change in exactly where the dual blades will reflect bullets. Maybe make it so that the legs and feet are shootable (or if your up for it include the head) so that way people still have at least some way of fighting back. That way the larger portion of the body is blocked while also allowing both parties to have an equal chance at winning.

The reason I'm saying this is because across multiple matches I have meet contestants that do nothing but hold down the aim key and run at the opponents, leading to them not being able to do nothing and are stuck running around. Leading to an overall unfun and frustrating experience.

[indigo timber]

Bring back Bank It

[quartz dirge]

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• Fix S5 Ruby Badge - Should Look Like S4 (image)
• Revert Sa12 change
• Nerf Cerberus (Pellet Damage, reload)
• Nerf Cb01 (Rof, range)
• Buff AKM (+4 mag)
• Buff dash (revert cd change from a while back)
• Revert most recent invis nerf (but keep qol self-invis viewing change)
• Fix spear attacks being able to go through walls
• Fix hitreg problems
• Revert dagger nerf, allow for full move speed during charging process of backstab + slightly reduce move speed penalty upon full charge
• Change glitch traps and other tether-based util from:
  • 1. Instantly locking onto you upon los (add a delay upon entering los before effect is applied)
  • 2. Fix tethers not breaking upon los break
  • 3. Reduce unintended (8m+) tether range and add a maximum deployment time for how long a mine can be active for
• Disable glitch trap’s ability to cause players to drop items held in their hand upon entering their range and being applied glitch (since other glitch sources do not have this effect)
• Remove proxim sensor from medium
• Let sniper be hitscan again
• Fix Charge and slam being able to dish out absurd amounts of damage if you get stuck on an object and get hit a billion times by cns
• Fix all thermal vision related bugs
• Fix ARN Recoil pattern randomness in second mag
• SLIGHTLY reduce first magazine’s recoil strength on ARN first mag recoil pattern
• Make ARN reload intuitive (fast swap between mags on single reload press, double press reload for full mag reload)

[subtle swan]

haha

[unreal grove]

Blank has a point on this one.

[dusky seal]

i don't have strong opinions about most of these but you're absolutely cooking wrt glitch traps' duration, they should definitely have an internal timer begin counting down after they've tethered someone for the first time and then fizzle after a period of time passes

or perhaps there's a pool of seconds they're allowed to glitch someone for, similar to the APS having a pool of health before it destroys itself

[versed cloud]

Reporting system is a joke and does nothing at all.

[woven grove]

please for the love of god bring back uncensored text chat and fix the lagged scoreboard

[rotund gust]

I think sniper should be fully projectile with a really fast bullet speed. After 40m getting a kill becomes RNG. You devs made Battlefield 1 which had some of the best sniping in any game I've ever played.

[limpid orchid]

two bugs:
-Sometimes gun ston shooting and doesnt go back util you use other gadget
-Very rarely enemies can get spotted by sonar util the rest of the round

[dusty marsh]

nerf teammates blocking bullets

[unborn garnet]

any headwear with trucker hats or a simple hat/headphone combo similar to the beanie/headphone combo?

[minor timber]

Hammer skin idea: barbell with plates on one side. Need gym bro skins

[versed knot]

So I’m on my 3rd season playing the game… started Season 1, came back towards the end of S5 and been playing since, PLEASE make it so you have the ability to rank up through the sponsor progression even if it’s the first time you’ve signed with them… I signed with Engimo thinking I was going to get the Eninja outfit and the ARN skin, but instead I got the first round of rewards (Engimo button up and Sniper skin). Now that I reached the end of the track, there’s no more progress, so I’ll
Have to wait until next time Engimo is up to get THIS seasons progression meaning I’ll never catch up… and I’m guessing it’s the same for every sponsor that has had multiple seasons…

I’d rather be able to grind through multiple sponsor levels (from other seasons) or if they are trying to have some kind of exclusivity… just get the newest seasons rewards that are advertised…

[lilac bramble]

can we please change the cb-01's hipfire? It is so comedically bad. I should not be missing point blank hipfire shots on a stationary target

[fathom hearth]

Remove sonar grenade from the game. If you’re going to remove recon senses because of ESP sonar is just as bad if not worse. Not to mention there’s never a time in the game when I’m not detected and the light player has full ESP on me. It’s also been how many seasons with a permanent detected bug? Giving players cheats without cheating..

[versed dagger]

Goo mine when?

[eternal crag]

I re-install every season to see if lights still ionize every class just to uninstall it again because I still die before I even notice im being shot, I'll try again next season. its a shame because I really enjoy the gameplay loop

[candid badge]

i agree ive come close to uninstalling and have taken week to month long breaks from the finals because light is ridiculous and not fun to play or play against. #NerfSword #ReworkLight #NerfLight #JusticeForGrenades #GetRidOfStunGunForever

[outer cloak]

bring back cursing IMMEDIATELY. its so stupid that I cant say "damn" or "lmao". This isnt 3rd grade

[round latch]

f10

[hexed plover]

I feel like people are going too far abt lights being very strong, like, come on, we get it. I never had any really big problem with them, just kill them before they kill you

WHY IS THE COOLDOWN 2 HOURS

[torpid sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1355335276112777296/speechmemified_appohdumb_1.gif

[rustic sandal]

I only really have 2 things for this season that seem out of balance.

1. Sword/dash needs some adjustment or just bring sword damage down to 120 from 140 (biggest Impact is 1 melee for full hp medium and don't get OHK after defib) damage nerf will also leave other dash related stuff untouched to not completely bomb it. I know some people also say this changes heavy ttk however I don't see it as much of a problem since vast majority of swords go for the 3x lunge to kill H anyway, which this wouldn't change.

2. Pike needs a ROF reduction and a MAG reduction. At the moment ONE mag has enough bullets to kill 2 mediums and bring a third to 50hp with only body shots. I don't think damage can be touched since anything below 50 will completely nuke this as it has previously. ROF will slightly fix this as you will still do same damage but you might actually get a chance to kill them before you get body shot to hell from 50+m away.

Otherwise very happy with this season and having heaps of fun!

[runic cargo]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[jagged cedar]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[boreal rivet]

I think you need to make more demonstration videos. Too many guys are suffering from losing to low tier weapons because they either do not know counterplay. Or refuse and learn to out smart enemies to improve which is a skill issue.

[quick coyote]

I feel like all the problems this game has would be gone if you just removed light from the game, is just an unhealthy class that flip-flops between "God mode pub stomper", to "completely useless, borderline trolling" depending on who is playing, no other class has this problem to this degree and this game will never be good enough for your average person if light continues to be in this state.

Look at Fortnite, the skill ceiling for building became ridiculously high, new players stopped coming in, they couldn't compete without training building for hours and hours, epic fixed this by adding zero build temporarily then permanently after.

[tough sigil]

Add kbm support to consoles, Give console players a FPS counter. Give console more freedom.

[odd snow]

I’ve read through a lot of the feedback on here and have been playing since season 1.

Is there any merit to discussing the health regen timers for the classes? They used to be even at 10 seconds a piece. I’m not sure if I got the times exactly right but it really does feel a bit oppressive in this high paced game when you get into a 1v1 with a light and both of you retreat to fight another day except they hunt you because they know their health will basically be back instantly while any other class has to cower in fear hoping they are facing the right direction. I know it may have been a pacing change but to me the regens feel a bit out of whack at the moment. All classes at 10 seconds is likely not the answer but the class with the highest DPS shouldn’t be just roam the map with minimal punishment for taking a couple bullets. Every other class is at a huge disadvantage while they wait for their health regen while the light can continually work away at it.

Light - 6 seconds?
Medium - 8 seconds?
Heavy - 10 seconds

[covert kite]

solo queue ranked is truly something else

[lean bluff]

Nerf sword

[chrome jackal]

With light having the least health doesn’t quickest regeneration make sense? If the regeneration were equal light would regen
waaay less over time

[elder umbra]

i would agree if sword removed from the game forever ...

[supple nebula]

add jeff

[iron leaf]

Tbf a light is just strong if the enemies have bad aim. That makes the light such op on low elo but in high elo like dia the enemies have aim. So there would be a light weak.
So if the light is to strong it’s a skill issue

[odd ibex]

Fix funny spinning stick
Spear alt rework,replace weird spinning with pole vaulting,hammer has destruction where u change the map,make buildings fall but with spear u just spin……?
If u can do vaulting(in an arc motion) then u can cover vertical distance and jump rooftops and have a thrust attack when falling after vaulting and more damage the higher u fall, u can still have only one spin attack if u hold primary attack

[waxen hornet]

can the arn get a recoil smoothing at the first mag? the contrast of the first and second mag's recoil is quite wild . i understand its a close to mid range weapon but with its current state i might just be using the xp

ill still spend more time with it to see if it's aight

[summer jetty]

Can we fix how much we gain/lose in ranked based on our seeding? If I am 2nd seed and I come 3rd I gain and if I come 4th I lose 10-200 depending. But if I am 8th seed and I come 7/8th I lose 900? If I am 6th seed and come 7/8th I also lose 900? We just shouldn't be losing so much, like yeah we got first rounded but we are the worst team in the tournament.

Also if I am 7/8th seed and I come 3rd in the tournament. I gain less than what I would lose if I came last?
That makes no sense to me

[lament wyvern]

Daily reminder to NERF THE SWORD

[inner cove]

add kbm support to consoles so its more enjoyable

[slender girder]

Yeah they should do sth about the recoil. At least make it consistent like the other weapons. Hopefully in this week's update we have some changes to it!

Don't nerf XP. Buff ARN. Light should have good weapons since they have alot less HP.

[rose vigil]

The heavy class feels really bad on open maps. especially with no movement. The light class needs incentives to be with the team or benefit them from afar.

[mild veldt]

Suicides in TDM should count towards enemy team score. There has been a strategy where enemies simply will fall off map or explode themselves to prevent to giving points, which is cheesy as hell and it kinda feels like bad manners.

[tidal yoke]

I think that's the point, heavy is cqc class that thrives in close spaces, and light actually have a lot of useful team gadgets sonar grenade, tracking dart, teleporter, breach charge/termite bore,

[plain cedar]

dont think the sword needs any damage profile changes. The whole point of defib being like this is to prevent people from reviving carelessly. Youre also forgetting the basic combos for sword. One more qm and the medium is dead again with the 120 nerf. Its effectively the same (its different for the combo on lights because lights can actually move away in time with their own dash or simply utilize one shot combos that have nearly the same or 0 ttk in the case of db). I dont think advocating for a nerf with its sole reason being a lower skill ceiling is convincing. A simpler fix would be to simply separate the movement of dash and lunge so you cant combine it (it will still be usable in sequence i suspect). Also to lower dash charges to 2 but increase the regen rate to prevent dash spamming during combat which can overly reward players who lunge carelessly. The regen rate increase should still retain the general mobility of light.

[tacit radish]

i feel like suicides in general should count toward enemy kills. have seen so many cl players kill themself while tryna kill me or players jump off the map when low hp. If you take dmg form a enemy n get killed by self dmg (gas,fire,explodi brrls,falling off the map,nades,etc) the kill should be awarded to the guy who hit you last .

[rain shadow]

Day 765 WITHOUT LBMM in WT

[potent solar]

that depends... you got the moves?

[deft dew]

Please give us back the option to turn off the profanity filter. This is ridiculous. Thanks

[lavish shard]

Nerf SWORD

[rustic sandal]

The fact of it adding the extra melee was exactly my point - i even said this in my comment haha. You believe the QM wont make a difference where i think it will make more of a difference than you think, either of us might be wrong or both but its a start and theres nothing that will make everyone happy - my other point about only touching sword though means you only impact sword and not other light builds that use dash. Not to mentionits probably quickest and simplest thing to change from a technical perspective than untangling dash interactions. The combos itself are actually where i think the skill gets expressed with dash + anything but the damage is just too high of a reward at the moment for sword. Not sure where the skill ceiling comment came from as i dont even remember saying anything about skill requirements haha. Im not against tweaking dash but i feel what you suggest is probbably a bit overboard as an overhaul when typically the simplest solution is the best. The defib part i do kind of agree with but its also hard to say that for sure when it legit one taps you and still does multi-target damage to whoevers near. I know there are some people who res in bad spots but the fact it does OHK when you have no movement abilities or enough damage to deal back is where it becomes slightly more unfair towards medium in particular.

[odd ibex]

Light breach charge needs to break smaller holes that’s enough for lights to peek and shoot or go through and don’t leave large open holes like it already does and besides no one needs that level of destruction and it’s almost NEVER used!!!!!
Make damage STACK at least close to season 1 breach charge.

Add a flare gun that leave trails like the colourful purple smoke/sparkle if stuck on players and does small burn damage and sparks damage player teammates nearby,leaves more smoke if flare is stationary so it’s also a long range smoke bomb,it’s duel purpose.

[frozen fern]

I have a rarely-occuring bug where if i ads, the gun's scope raises to the point that i cant see whats in front of me

Edit: It started happening when i was using medium akm, fcar and famas

[red arch]

vault ADS feels extremely clunky -> There's a strange delay when you vault and you're unable to ADS, but it's not consistent, i'm hoping this is a bug because it makes gunplay worse in general.

[sterile canopy]

That would require doubling the granularity of the destruction; I’m not sure that’s viable for performance reasons

[steep anchor]

Give Sword to mediums and Dual blades to lights, or nerf sword so that it takes at least some effort to play

[vestal coral]

I've always said that the biggest problem in this game is the light, it's the stupidest and most toxic class ever created in a video game. And with this I'm not saying that it's not fun or useful, but as you say either you play them well or you're trolling. Most use lights for movement and easy kills and then actually make a fool of themselves, or in the right hands it's too powerful more than the other classes, plus it's a class too annoying it's worse than a mosquito.

[gilded steppe]

embark fix yo servers

[warped axle]

This would fix both weapons one would no longer be op the other wouldnt be bad

[umbral yacht]

Buff roadhog’s hook range

[mystic surge]

For console

[quick coyote]

yeah because Light has the least health, literally dies to two grenade launcher shots, A single hammer swing and also dies to a turret often. Any 1v1 u take with a light is unfair to the light if the light doesn't have positional, skill and aim advantage.

[zealous nacelle]

So how are we supposed to finish the interrupt opponents contract? hasnt that always been bugged and surely now its even harder with no stun gun?

[dim hedge]

embark can we please nerf quick melee it does way too much damage especially to lights with their tiny little health pool so can we tone it down to 10 damage instead of 40 please

[slim dove]

Can we add self heal for medium healing beam? It doesn't make sense when you can heal teammates but can't heal yourself

[onyx trout]

actually it should go down to 1 damage

[elder folio]

Nah it should heal the enemy for 40 HP

[stray wing]

Please make trackindarteffect stackable or at least buff the sage slightly, so it can destroy Equipment Like mines. Doesnt have to be oneshot but 2-3 would be nice

[icy marsh]

Sword doesn’t need a nerf. Learn to aim. There’s like 5 actually good sword players iv ever ran into in NA ranked

[indigo timber]

Bring back Bank It

[spiral hemlock]

Small quality of life thing, but pinging in this game could use a tweak. I understand the need to have my ping lock onto an objective marker if I'm looking close to it, but I very often am unable to ping an area or where I saw an enemy because my ping keeps locking to an objective that I'm really not even close to looking at, like 80 degrees off or more at times. Maybe lower the leniency of when that happens so pinging can be more consistent.

[pliant helm]

Disable Sword!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hazy shore]

daily reminder that sword is in a good spot. sword is a skill check. pass the skill check, sword is a breeze. dont, then sword wins. stop complaining

[whole dragon]

Disable turrets meta

[verbal glen]

Give model 2 shot back

[slender girder]

At least turrets should disappear right when the user dies.

@broken pawn No gadgets like mines, aps, c4 don't disappear when the user dies but I wouldn't be against that either personally if people regularly were calling for a nerf on those too.

[upbeat urchin]

secondary attack could still get a little nerf, like how much time between 2 charges, and compensate by increasing dmg of regular hits

[nova osprey]

No, this is an awful suggestion what led you to this dumbass idea

[modern bramble]

yeah that might be one of the worst ideas i have ever heard

[broken pawn]

right, so do mines, aps, c4 also disappear?

[sonic salmon]

im all for the healing nade like the barrels we had for that one week for world tour same idea not powerful but something like that

[odd ibex]

Add kusarigama for light,primary attacks hit like sword but alt attack is u spin the chain and blade 160 degrees in front of u and most damage where blade hits not the chain,it’s skill based cause u hold down alt and the more u hold the longer u throw and only the blade part damages when spinning plus u can move your aim while spinning to make blade go in that direction.

To simply put it,the melee alt is more like aim and shoot but use aim to move the blade and hit box.

There r two ways of implementing this,either the melee projectile starts from an arc from the left side and goes to the centre line and move as u change your aim or the projectile starts from the crosshairs and moves where u move your aim

U may change between the two using a different stance using the weapon inspection button or add more combos using that button.

Either u can’t use light spec when using alt or give this weapon to medium with a wall run gadget or else it’s the most dull experience chasing player as a medium

https://youtube.com/shorts/-71MHEADkVo?si=bu2BQZR8kTwY1Xo7

[west raven]

Change the fucking matchmaking system
Change the fucking matchmaking system
Change the fucking matchmaking system
Nerf fucking Evasive Dash
Nerf fucking Evasive Dash
Nerf fucking Evasive Dash
Nerf fucking sword
Nerf fucking sword
Nerf fucking sword
Delete failed data
Delete failed data
Delete failed data

[upper citrus]

let us put teams of 5-6 in the game for private matches using the final round gamemode

[slender pine]

buff ks23 (and nerf sword)

[kindred cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-the-finals-skill-issue-gif-9109889277599560089

The post below me has an invalid opinion.

[hollow bobcat]

Day 5 of asking for a Spear buff:
Among many of the Spear’s problems, one of the most noticeable when using it is it's shockingly low DPS. Here is a list of guns that can out TTK the spear in Melee range while also being able to do damage from range.

Spear:
Light - Medium - Heavy
1.80s - 2.50s- 3.20s

Heavy v Heavy:
.50 Akimbos: 1.83 > 3.2
Lewis Gun: 1.6 > 3.2
M60: 1.6 > 3.2
KS-23: 2.47 > 3.2
SA1216: .80 > 3.2
SHAK-50: 1.57 > 3.2
MGL32: 2.67 > 3.2

Medium v Heavy:
AKM: 1.7 > 2.5
CL-40: 2.3 > 2.5
FCAR: 1.4 > 2.5
Model 1887: 1.6 > 2.5
R .357: 1.6 > 2.5
Pike-556: 2.1 > 2.5
Cerberus-12: 1.8 > 2.5

Light v Heavy:
93R: 1.64 > 1.8
V9S: 1.33 > 1.8
M11: 1.26 > 1.8
XP-54: 1.48 > 1.8
LH1: 1.5 > 1.8
SH1900: .75 > 1.8
M26 Matter: 1.41 > 1.8

Note: These damage numbers come from patch 1.5.5 and takes into account only body shot numbers. The spear numbers come from its M1 standard attack, not the spin. I just wanted to illuminate that even when Spear has the first shot on another player, how often they lose. Thank yall embark for continuing to do an amazing job on my favorite game and please consider buffing the spear in any capacity!

[shrewd estuary]

But then sword will still one shot lights with the combo 🤑🤑🤑

[rapid stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266737129182986342/1351258762220015646/Screenshot_20250317_131825_Instagram.jpg?ex=67d9b94a&is=67d867ca&hm=7af4443b67c35aa5601acaf86e0be6af6bbf7ce33e896983563885299f7e7f40&

[keen lily]

please put the cashout in the practice range so we can test interactions with gadgets outside of normal games

[subtle oak]

Don’t nerf sword, it’s completely unnecessary.
Not being able to kill a sword player is a massive skill issue.

[shell rock]

I am once again asking for a minigun buff

[boreal hare]

Game is perfectly balanced. The cheating across the board is becoming a problem. Especially in high ELO.

[restive bane]

Make cloak great again your killing a slither of advantage we have against mediums playing rainbow six siege in a room and heavies using cornbread fed strength and plowing threw everything

[cobalt kernel]

#BringBackBankIt

[turbid swallow]

This would actually be REALLY nice

[gilded steppe]

i got reailed by thr equivalent of T90's cannon because the servers decided they want to be ass and lagged me to my opps

[sand cove]

With anonymous mode too, makes it so much worse to spot the same cheaters in your games

[sudden trout]

The one thing I'd say about this sword change is even though one qm is added, the sword light can easily get that in. If this suggestion were to be enacted I'd also say you can't qm while lunging with sword. Otherwise not a bad idea.

[mystic pawn]

Thank you for showing this!

[torn talon]

Kyoto map rework next season hopefully🙏🏾?

[analog cave]

PLEASE remove the fov shift on the dagger or at least make it optional, it makes me remarkably nauseated

[tacit whale]

FIX THE FUCKING SONAR GLITCH

[pearl idol]

Skill issue TBH, Shoulda just been perfect with the Cerberus.

[white anchor]

The 93r time between burst is weird and not fun to use make it so there isn't a gap between burst and u can slightly nerf damage since u r increasing fire rate but the damage fall out is longer so there is a balance since due to recoil u can spam it long/medium range.

Add fanning revolver for light with incendiary bullets but they r projectile but hit hard,u can use fanning action to quickly fire bullet.

Ks23 needs a headshot buff 1.2x,wall penetration and NO bullet deviation.

[modest rock]

Keep head hunter please

[pseudo leaf]

"Change glitch traps and other tether-based util from: 1) Instantly locking onto you upon los (add a delay upon entering los before effect is applied) 3) Reduce tether range and add a maximum deployment time for how long a mine can be active for"
This makes lights with dash op. Glitch trap is one of the bait gadgets in my opinion. When I was maining dagger in other seasons glitch traps were a problem that is easy to avoid when you know what are you doing. When ever i play medium and want to get glitch mine to counter swords it doesn't even has an meaning full impact. Other common use of it is just put in down on a statue to block insta defib and makes cloak players visible. Mid at best in my opinion. It just can be annoying sometimes.

[snow jay]

we need a dou game mode

[versed hill]

Turret ruins the game on Power Shift

[fast pier]

remove chat censorship. we're literally shooting people with guns but can't say lmao or suck it. shit's cringe. are we 8 years old?

[cerulean crest]

hey guys, im on ps5 and im wanna switch from expotential to linear do you have some good sens to advise me ?

[misty jasper]

any burst weapon and or anyone with good aim can burst the sword down before that happens.. especially if they’re medium or heavy. As a light, you have access to so many other weapons that can kill other lights way faster

@eternal crag All the mobility in the world doesn't change the fact that a sword needs to be in your face to kill you.. they go TO their enemy and ppl can't shoot them still?

At some point, there is a difference between just sucking at the game and being a casual. With all the burst meta going on, an average gun player vs a similarly skilled sword player, I would take the bet on the gun all day long

[dim hedge]

I mean, I usually use between 400-450 sens with linear AA and it works pretty well for me

[short widget]

game's weapon is somewhat balanced that's true. but strategy? I feel less strategy used in s6. triple gun fire at one-done, then two and three you got a team. every gadget, every move doesn't matter; it's pure aim test. is this better than before? I doubt it.

[wraith orchid]

raise the movement skill ceiling PLLLLLLLSSSSS

[foggy orbit]

The point of the clip was to show how forgiving sword is as a melee weapon, the fact you can lunge to a target with 10m+ of distance, while missing the majority of your attack, then being able to re-correct is what makes sword the lowest skill melee weapon in the game. It's why it causes a lot of frustration in the community, being able to easily output 140 damage with multi-hit

[shell current]

remove vignette effect on aiming or make it optional. its awful for point blank range fights, but also in general awful for seeing whats on my screen

[tropic snow]

^

[eternal crag]

yet lights have the most mobility in the game, health pools dont matter if you dont get hit, so anyone that isn't at a high skill level or just wants to play casually, are deterred from playing and enjoying the game.

[tulip obsidian]

Bring back bank it 🙏

[slender mica]

I wanna share a screenshot in here about a bug I just discovered but I cant send photos to prove

[runic grail]

omg pls yes #BringBackBankIt it was my favorite

[crisp heart]

Please add hud safezone to keep the hud in the center of the screen for ultrawide :)

[random smelt]

So what you are saying is a skill issue cause someone playing sword is so easy to hit because you should know they are coming straight at you and if they aren’t then they know how to play against your aim. It’s quite simple.

[delicate glen]

When are we getting the diamond backgrounds for Season 1 and 2?

[nimble sky]

discord rpc for the finals how its on steam but if you are ingame you see the mode you play and the map

[marble hearth]

Day 12 asking for a more customizable music menu

[neat citrus]

any chance we can create full cosmetic kits that we dont own and then have a button to "purchase all". would be great if we could test how things look with different items that we dont own before purchasing

[smoky gust]

that last clip specifically is pretty much exactly why i want changes for sword

sometimes they miss you entirely or look the complete opposite way but still get to hit you
sledge got nerfed because it was frustrating to be hit by something that wasn't even close to connecting with you
so sword should also be changed

maybe it could be reworked instead of just nerfed though, so it doesn't just feel worse to those that like it

i would limit how much you can turn during the lunge (kind of like demoknight from tf2)
and in return, make the lunge itself go further, that way it would not be hard countered by glitch trap anymore and becomes more usable with cloak/grapple

[odd prism]

Make ranked a mix of all game modes to bring out the most knowledgeable players to the top?

Instead of having ranked as plainly cashout, a mixed system would probably be better.

Idk how the party system would work though and queue times nigh be longer.

[full sentinel]

keep making every other game som 900 rs light and his friend 👍

[violet rampart]

Can you fix the eu severs, as i and many others i have been playing with have been struggling with the servers being horrible to play on have stutters and frequent lagging making the game not fun to play and just makes me want to quit. This mainly happens in wt but also in ranked leading to loses which just sucks when you can't do anything about it.

[mellow narwhal]

World tour point system needs a rework, getting 6 points for getting into round 2 is insane.

Realistically getting 3rd in round 1 should net you 3 points then second and first should be 5 points
Second round 3rd place should get 5, second and first should net you 10(these all stack with the finals round results) winning final should net you 30 points losing should net you 20

so all in all in round one you come 1st you get 5 points, in round 2 you come first again you get 15 and in the final if you win you get 45 points. ATM the point system just feels meh this is me spitballing btw if you've got better solutions i would love to here it.

[Light]
Xp didn't need a damage increase it needed more in the mag
Sword needs a dmg nerf to 110 and making it so it either cant be combines with dash or that it cant multi hit
Invis is next to impossible to see in the nighttime setting (not a balance suggestion more of a compliant)

[Heavy]
minigun feels like it needs just a slight accuracy cone buff
Feels like winch didn't need the range buff it was already strong as is(reverting the range would be ideal)
Ks23 needs better hip fire

[Medium]
Cerberus is very unique it should have its fire damage be the brunt of its damage, every pellet should start fire damage but its overall pellet damage (that isn't from be fire) should be nerfed probably round to less than the model so 10 - 11 per pellet.
Famas might need a slight recoil adjustment to make it less easy (currently the best ar by a mile) and/or a damage nerf

Additionally would love for clubs to be expanded upon, we have contracts for clubs i would love to see a leveling system giving players a unique cosmetic for reaching certain clan levels, club contracts aren't the only thing that should level the club up playing and winning with club mates should increase rank (not as much as the contracts but should still impact the level)

Might just be me but playing light without stun gun has been great as it frees up an extra slot and makes it so i can experiment with other gadgets without feeling like a big detriment to my team play (would love for it to either be not a guaranteed pick for high level lights kit or removed completely) i feel this way about defibs as well as they trivialize resing and fights most of the time plus them and movement are instant picks for mediums kits in high level.

Any fixes for the no sprint no shoot and constant sonar bug in the works ?

If you have any better suggestion about any of the changes I brought up id love to hear them 🙂

[cyan crane]

Holy shit does sr-84 have the same projectile speed at long range as the bow or what the fuck is it so slow for

[dreamy ore]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1jspnjw/this_is_the_answer_to_why_the_hell_does_this_even/ this is so wrong, you really need to fix the problem with the Dash+Sword

[tight oracle]

add a rubber band skin for the recurve bow

[stray wing]

Please make trackindarteffect stackable or at least buff the damage slightly, so it can destroy Equipment Like mines. Doesnt have to be oneshot but 2-3 would be nice.
Even Both changes wouldnt make it op but at least more viable

[languid gate]

Bring back bank it. That is all.

[signal basin]

Update after patch 6.0 :
Still no stun gun. When claw do 5dmg, grab you and stun you, like the stun gun but it's still here and even buff this season. Nice. It's unfair. Claw + Hammer + Punch = Free Kill.

OH ! And I never see so many cheaters. S6 is from far, the most cheaters season since the beginning. Well normal. New seasons. New players and a lot of kids player who can't play by themself. Thanks cheat code and cronus.

For the game

• Add "step" in the reload animation so when you climb on something during a reload, it's not completly reset.
• Increase the netcode/tickrate/servers. Getting kill at 3m far from a hammer/sword or behind a wall / door / cover is not ACCEPTABLE. Servers can't register your movements
• Perma ban toxic players and cheaters
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Let us go in practice with friends
• Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL and unfair for Light. Movement are cancel and they only got 150HP
• Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends and recent players.
• Dash is trash with your netcode. Servers can't register a dash behind a cover and you will die anyway
• **Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match. Like "only M and Dual Blade", "only Light and SR84", "only marksman", "No heal, Light only and grenade only". You can imagine all you want and put it in private match for streamer and their community to make the game more fun **
• Let us use our VR for XP weapons or other things (not from me but very interresting idea !)

** For balance **

• CB01-Repeater is just stupidly strong and OP. Nerf this weapons fast before all the new/come back players leaves your game again and for ever. EDIT : Nevermind, it's already happening
• CL40 buff was too much. Need to nerf it again. EDIT : AND YOU GIVE 1K$ by kill in WT for this !
• Buff Vanish Bomb and make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light and it can be use for your teammates too !
• The Sword buff was not necessary in 5.8
• Nerf Turret range.
• The FAMAS nerf is useless in 5.8
• Nerf proximity sensor range
• Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR
• Nerf Cerberus damage.
• Nerf the range of the KS shotgun. You can put 100 dmg at 20m easy.
• Nerf PIKE to 48 instead of 50 dmg. You know what you did in 5.8 with that.
• LH1 nerf was to strong in 6.0. Buff it to 45 dmg.
• Buff Light survability or DPS. Light should be the DPS class but the game is always around Medium and Heavy class
• Nerf a bit Deagle damage or range
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls or other.
• Nerf the right clic sword + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword charged
• Revive and Objectives score should add additional points in ranked
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safety !

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

[high linden]

i am not reading all that,
Good job or bad take whichever one applies

[pastel flax]

I've noticed a huge uptick in people aimbotting recently, but my feedback is more focused on the player reporting flow.

If a player leaves a match, it's really cumbersome to track down their account to block / report. It would be nice to have an easier way to report cheaters mid-match if needed.

For example, between respawns, if you could perform report / block functions on players, to take effect once the match concludes, that would help crack down on cheaters.

[weary pine]

Unerf SA1216 / Bring back animation cancelling
Buff KS-23 / Bring back animation cancelling
Nerf XP-54
Nerf Cerb
Fix Sword

[wicked heart]

Add nerd neck.

[remote jewel]

Found the light player

[nova plover]

Spawns need fixing, in QC the team wiped 5 seconds after we respawned shouldn't be spawning right fucking behind us EVERY SINGLE GAME

[sonic arrow]

You guys know the robot body? what if we had gun body...

[junior knot]

we need melee weapons skin looking like a trafic light, where they go from red to green while charging

[deft dew]

Give us option to turn OFF the Profanity filter, please.

[umbral lark]

Almost all woman faces in this game are ugly.... why ?

[stuck depot]

That's already a feature, in making an outfit you add stuff you don't own to a shopping list and buy it all at once

[tender sail]

Can you upgrade your fuck awful 12 tick servers please? I'm really fucking sick of every single death being behind a wall or a closed door

[frank dagger]

yes.

[autumn oyster]

Average solo ranked experience - 3 lights against x3 full packed squads . Also, we got only 150 points for 3rd place.
Playing solo against full squads shouldn't be the case in a highly competitive ranked mode

[keen lily]

it's not possible to split the queue with the low population of players in the ranked mode

[runic cargo]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[restive scaffold]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[violet elbow]

remove light

[narrow spade]

Wow. An actually all around 8/10 suggestion in game feedback

[pseudo latch]

Less than 48 hours to the balance patch.

Give the people what they want, what they need, what they deserve

Buff minigun, tighten the spread, reduce the range.

[iron leaf]

Pls nerf Cerberus and CL40. This Meta doesnt make fun

[undone plank]

Yes please

[alpine falcon]

Please fix the cloaking mechanic because clearly there is something broken with it. There's this MASSIVE bug where the ability that is advertised as making you invisible doesn't make you invisible whatsoever, even while standing perfectly still, and there's this weird extremely loud humming sound when someone is invisible that just completely reveals their location. Please fix this soon, I want to be able to use the cloaking mechanic effectively.

[terse lark]

true. i was using cloak and EVERYONE saw me

[quick rampart]

this isn’t necessarily a problem, but i feel like my character is playing in a wheelchair whenever im not running double movement medium, i would love to level up the other gadgets but it almost feels forced to run at least one movement

[hearty bough]

Servers feel REALLY BAD lately - hit reg is off, way more stuttering and rubber banding than usual in the past week or so, friends are noticing too and leaving the game as a result

[worldly scaffold]

You gotta tweak the sword for casual play, it is ridiculous. One weapon dictates your loadout, to counter it... every fucking time I have to adjust to one player, for the rest of the match, terrible design/balance. How long have people been telling you this?

Also Charge and slam, super weak pick now. it is sooo easy to dodge, with any class. If you don't want it to do damage, give damage reduction for the duration of it, would fit the class too.

Also, Powershift, new maps cool, old jank still there, you have done zero to fix spawn campign. At least give longer invulrenability at spawn, that breaks if you use something, or attack.

Also, add a map selection, or preferance. I don't wanna see Kyoto, I just leave instantly. One, this season the fps on it is unplayable for me, Two, it is almost always ALL Lights, I rather suck cow piss loli than play it at this point. Add map selection (for quick play), everybody wins, everybody will have more fun with your game, period.

New Las Vegas, to me it is like ok? To be totally honest, I liked the old one better, it feels way too open now, but new is till fun too, but I hope you add old one to the rotation too, I wanna have both.

On a positive note, new queue up songs smash, absolute bangers.

Also, I like that you did not go all in with new map in this season (I actually don't mind at all there is no new map, if we get redesigned Kyoto next season, I would be happy with that too), instead you went and put time into with overall improvement of everything, this and that. Game feels more polished, and there is less UI bugs, pop pour win.

EDIT; Regarding Kyoto, I think it needs more multifloor taller buildings, instead of swamp and open spots you shouldn't use.

[restive niche]

i think cloak and vanish are most effective using misdirection, it almost never works in a vaccum. you gotta flank the enemy while your team keeps em busy. or throw something loud to the left when you're going right. or throw goo and make them guess if you're going around to the left or right while invis, etc. I have a lot of success with sword and vanish bomb in gold lobbies playing like that.

[tame sky]

Add backsliding please

[quick coyote]

minigun is so bad bruh buff it 🙏

[fleet meadow]

FIX F EMPTY TEAMS, so many times team has 2-3 guys out of 5 in power shift, WTHell

[shadow hinge]

When is the buff for stun gun ready?

[quick coyote]

New players shouldnt be allowed to play world tour untill they have played quick cash at least 10 times, its insane having to play with people that dont understand the basic rules of the mode

[echo radish]

HOW MANY TIMES THOSE "HIGH ELO PEOPLE" SHITTING PEOPLES OPINION IN HERE ABOUT MELEE, CALLING THEM SKILL ISSUE? AND NOW THEY WANT THE FUCKING NERF OF MELEE LMAOOOOO THIS COMMUNITY IS SO FUNNY I THINK 95% OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY YAPPING ABOUT🤣🤣🤣🤣

[silver granite]

pls add the ability to appear offline in game. thanks.

[hazy pollen]

Make 1 stack exposive mine, frag nade and c4 2 stack but with half damage: 120->60 for mines, 140->75 for nades, 77 or 78 for c4. I think it will be way more interesting to play like it was before. Not seeing any exp mine user since the nerf

[rare rivet]

The only way to learn is by playing, the only way to win is by learning and the only way to begin is by beginning. Forcing them to play a game mode that is different from the one they aren't allowed to play yet won't get them that much farther either

[terse slate]

world tour is in such a wonderful state... as a casual player being matched against rank diamond or ruby... So much fun so much wow. makes you uninstall the game..

[mild wave]

A car as a specialization for medium or heavy would be so random and casual but so much fun, and that is what this game is about

[velvet dirge]

[broken pawn]

Please remove the goddamn delay on the communication wheel
It’s so annoying

[indigo timber]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[ocean parrot]

LEAVE BANKIT OUT

[torn ether]

there are 2 wolves inside the community

[tall spoke]

make it so weapons with only one reload animation (minigun, revolver, sh1900) have only one selectable animation in the customization menu, so now ill be able to see my cool minigun animation without having to empty the 250 round magazine.

[cosmic ether]

For real I've said it before, biggest hypocrites ever.

[misty jasper]

The difference tho is that stun gun is a gadget and winch is a specialization

[uneven sail]

Some points good, others are skill issue

[mellow shoal]

can we pls make an incentive for first. getting griefed over and over actually has me on the edge of a tweak out

[fathom hearth]

remove this weapon from the game 🗣️ the amount of skilless light players that crutch this weapon is crazy... you dont even have to look at ur screen just dash and swing your mouse. im glad i can do that with my pea shooter fcar

[zinc steeple]

Wow what a joke!!! You swing at the boxes and still hit them 😂😂😂😂 all melee weapons are dumb as fuck

[untold hazel]

holy shit nerf xp it did not need a buff

[mellow narwhal]

World tour point system needs a rework, getting 6 points for getting into round 2 is insane.

Realistically getting 3rd in round 1 should net you 3 points then second and first should be 5 points
Second round 3rd place should get 5, second and first should net you 10(these all stack with the finals round results) winning final should net you 30 points losing should net you 20

so all in all in round one you come 1st you get 5 points, in round 2 you come first again you get 15 and in the final if you win you get 45 points. ATM the point system just feels meh this is me spitballing btw if you've got better solutions i would love to here it.

[Ranked/Cashout]
Would love to see some improvements in cashout and eventually ranked i feel like if you pull it in and hold it the money should gradually be given to you this will lessen the blow of 3rd parties and we can remove this plug meta its just a thought but i do feel like cashout needs something new its current system is meh imo

[Light]
Xp didn't need a damage increase it needed more in the mag
Sword needs a dmg nerf to 110 and making it so it either cant be combines with dash or that it cant multi hit
Invis is next to impossible to see in the nighttime setting (not a balance suggestion more of a compliant)

[Heavy]
minigun feels like it needs just a slight accuracy cone buff
Feels like winch didn't need the range buff it was already strong as is(reverting the range would be ideal)
Ks23 needs better hip fire

[Medium]
Cerberus is very unique it should have its fire damage be the brunt of its damage, every pellet should start fire damage but its overall pellet damage (that isn't from be fire) should be nerfed probably round to less than the model so 10 - 11 per pellet.
Famas might need a slight recoil adjustment to make it less easy (currently the best ar by a mile) and/or a damage nerf

Additionally would love for clubs to be expanded upon, we have contracts for clubs i would love to see a leveling system giving players a unique cosmetic for reaching certain clan levels, club contracts aren't the only thing that should level the club up playing and winning with club mates should increase rank (not as much as the contracts but should still impact the level)

Might just be me but playing light without stun gun has been great as it frees up an extra slot and makes it so i can experiment with other gadgets without feeling like a big detriment to my team play (would love for it to either be not a guaranteed pick for high level lights kit or removed completely) i feel this way about defibs as well as they trivialize resing and fights most of the time plus them and movement are instant picks for mediums kits in high level.

Any fixes for the no sprint no shoot and constant sonar bug in the works ?

If you have any better suggestion about any of the changes I brought up id love to hear them 🙂

[strong jacinth]

every time I crash i nranked i get a suspension and -X points even if i reconnect almost inmmediately and win the game, thank you Embark!!!

[limber bluff]

The ks-23 needs 100% accuracy, any other buff is pointless

The ks-23 is the only direct hit projectile weapon that is not afforded the luxury of accuracy which is the main reason its suffering. In concept its great and i love the gun, but anyone who has played it for any significant ammount of time knows that its main point of frustration is its unrelieability. Because of the spread targets beyond 8 meters are a gamble to hit. The feature inplace to make it a skillful weapon is already the projectile, however this is ruined by the spread. You can predict your targets movement, lead your shot correctly but still miss because the game decided your slug goes left.

The only buff the ks needs to be good is accuracy. Buffs like range falloff or firerate wouldnt solve the underlying issue of it being frustrating to use beyond 8 meters, headshots without accuracy are pointless, damage is going to force winch ks back which was not very fun to die to. A bigger projectile would maybe work but decrease the guns skill expression.

Even with 100% accuracy the gun would bw far from op due to the small mag and bad ttk. However it would be a lot more fun and a lot less frustrating to use

[reef spade]

love how its easier to reach diamond on ranked than it is to reach emerald in WT
takes so much of my time, but i admit im mostly solo queuing

[cerulean birch]

nerf xp mag down to 25 but buff damage to 19, and nerf the range a bit to counteract the damage

[fresh granite]

Bring back bank it

[mint tusk]

Nintendo switch 2 release would be epic

[latent niche]

Please nerf flashbang.
I don't even want to load up the game anymore I hate it so much. Zero counterplay at all, doesn't allow you to shoot, you don't know where you're moving, you can't avoid it at all, you can't even data reshape them in time before they go off. If I get flashbanged 10 times in a game that means I just got to stare at a black screen for FOURTY SECONDS. IT MAKES ME WANT TO UNINSTALL.

[umbral swift]

Sword is perfectly balanced and healthy. It’s strong in enclosed areas because it’s a fucking melee weapon on the lowest HP class in the game, so it literally has to be or it would be unusably bad even in close quarters.

• Lunge doing 138+ is mandatory to be viable. <138 = Breakpoints are garbage.
• Quick Melee comboing is mandatory to be viable. No QM comboing = Breakpoints are garbage.
• Dash-lunge synergy is mandatory to be viable. No synergy = Bad even in closer ranges.
• Multihit is mandatory to be viable. No multihit = Unusable if more than 1 enemy exists.
• Lingering flicks are mandatory to be viable. No flicks = Can only go straight = Over-predictable = Useless, especially vs ranged hitscan.

Burst shotguns still shit on Sword even in melee range. In return Sword is literal trash in open areas. And this is a game where you can destroy nearly any part of the map.

People refusing to do any of the many counters in the game is entirely their own fault. This isn’t specific to Sword either. Same goes for something like short-range guns versus long-range guns in short-range fights and long-range fights, one side will always have to do something or play differently to make up for the inherent disadvantage.

There are playstyle and equipment counters to every single thing in the game. Sword or not, every situation will not always be an even 50-50 odds of winning, that’s stupid. Sometimes you’ll be advantaged and it’ll force enemies to play around that, and sometimes, the enemies will be advantaged and force you to play around that.

[weary pine]

Unerf SA1216 / Bring back animation cancelling
Buff KS-23 / Bring back animation cancelling
Nerf XP-54
Nerf Cerb
Fix Sword

[scenic kiln]

dont do the first two things

[jagged marten]

no

[heady stratus]

We need the matchmaking fixed, me and team consistently play with emeralds as bronzes, in world tour.

[thorny socket]

Ospuze bucket hat

[mystic pawn]

Nerf sword is what I’m hearing from this

[candid badge]

i agree, nerf sword and rework light

[honest abyss]

Can embark not afford more AWS Node in North America? I'm sure it's not my internet that cause intermittent lag and package loss. Is there any better explanation?

[autumn oyster]

I don’t think you have any data to say that. This channel is meant for feedback and the 3-hour slowmode makes conversation impossible so leave it to the devs.
Obviously, there are duos in the game, and it’s definitely possible to mix lobbies with solos and duos instead of matching solo players against full squads

[keen tartan]

The cheaters are back! Look like they found a new way

[nocturne crane]

"earn a million dollars in the finals"

Be nice, if yaknow, half the fucken modes actually tracked progressed onto this challenges.
TDM does not add onto the valkue of the challange (why the fuck we killing each other for fucken money if its not fucken counting for a fucken weekly)

why is powershift, a game where you earn increments of 1k$, not tracking either?
i make it to the end with my team, that should be like 23k points at the end of the game right? No....the scoreboards a liar, we arent fighting for money.... if the weekly "earn 1,000,000$" didnt even fucken budge

Fix it

add gay/lgbt icons
lvl 25-50-100 bronze silver gold whatever more worth while ffree skins and less fomo shit
fuck your fomo shit, itll kill your game.

make battlepasses not expire.
we are in 20 20 god damn 5, we can have pro consumer practices in a fucken free game
halo infinites ahead of the curve on this, you should be too

[surreal meadow]

gamer discovers basic melee mechanics and balancing in an FPS game

[rough storm]

Wiping a team, arriving on the cashout just for the opponents to spawn literally next to it and steal your box and plug. You then nearly wipe them just for a third party to arrive and clear yall out.

Fix spawns and show us the deaths again

[wide summit]

make goo gun shot 2x2 goo walls as the alt fire!

[sage kite]

If repeater is nerfed I will kill myself

[bright gull]

You need to change up the xp 54 all I am running into is lights with invisibility and xp-54 it has no recoil and beams me at range it's a god damn smg

[quick coyote]

Huuuuuge.

[marsh halo]

Game freezing issue after today's update?....idk how adding ruby rank to a leaderboard causes the game to freeze.

[keen lily]

3 stacks would have 30 minutes queues, there would be no point
but yeah I agree the finals has the worst solo queue experience from any game

[umbral yacht]

Make people take an IQ & drug test before recommending balance changes

[hollow bobcat]

PLEASE BUFF SPEAR ITS SO BAD!

[paper meadow]

I’ll hold you to that

[vestal coral]

matchmaking still sucks, will you ever improve it? Also server sync and tick rate? Do you want to improve it? Or do you really want the game to die?

nerf cl40 immediately stupid weapon for no skill, do you want to stop creating weapons from scratch skill?

[dreamy ore]

we need bank it now!!!!!

[open elm]

Gos

[delicate notch]

I hate Kyoto, but I'd rather play Kyoto 3 times over Monaco Suspended once. I know you can bring the structures down, but sometimes there isn't enough barrels around or other means to get it down consistently imo. Why not add structures like in Bernal that are actually fun to play on.

[echo radish]

No

[junior viper]

Give lights rpg

[sharp estuary]

We need a map filter (Please remove Kyoto)

[atomic flax]

Genuinely, why did embark add text chat and then neuter it so bad? You can't turn off the swear filter now, and console players can't enable it at all (I swear that they used to be able to). What is it with this hatred of choice?

[languid gate]

Bring Bank It back.

[worldly scaffold]

yeah, its stupid.

[daring latch]

i think when it comes to clubs the higher rank you are in a club the more club contracts you should be able to do, like contender 3 and pro 4 maybe

[viral heart]

Bring back uncensored text chat and add it to console

[silk moon]

Random crash wtf

[lavish nimbus]

How come I can't access all of the classes' channels altogether? What if I wanted to ask a main's channel about their respective class?

[runic grail]

#BringBackBankIt it was a mode beloved by many

[keen walrus]

Bring back Bank It or we riot

[tired fable]

please, make sword stab do 52dmg

[brittle obsidian]

add old world tour events as gamemode options in private matches

[white anchor]

The 93r time between burst is weird and not fun to use make it so there isn't a gap between burst and u can slightly nerf damage since u r increasing fire rate but the damage fall out is longer so there is a balance since due to recoil u can spam it long/medium range.

Add fanning revolver for light with incendiary bullets but they r projectile but hit hard,u can use fanning action to quickly fire bullet.

Ks23 needs a headshot buff 1.2x,wall penetration and NO bullet deviation.

[untold willow]

Buff SA fire rate or revert dmg

[plush fjord]

kid how many times has a light evas dashed outta range or sight when you stun him? or how many times have you grabbed someone with winch that was 40-50 m away?

the stun has more range, the stun doesnt give the person enough time to grapple or charge out of the way, the stun doesnt hinder your movement after you shoot it. the "stun" that u say in the winch is for what? like two-three seconds tops? and u cant dash outta the way after that?

The ppl who say "Claw + Hammer + Punch = Free Kill" for 500 times a day are the same people that use sword and evas dash to take advantage of desync and hit 3 ppl at the same time while barely touching them. Go to reddit and watch the vids urself, then cope hard and call them crybabies. Then go try winch and sledge for urself and tell me uve gotten more than three kills with it in a cashout match

Nice. This is too much skill issue from quick cash warriors. Room temp iq take.

PS: Before more quick cash warriors come and try to argue, ill remind yall that stun gun DID have its counters, and wasnt broken per se, was just annoying to play against. ur having a bad day if ur raging about someone grabbing u from 10m and then waiting 1-2 seconds to launch an overhead attack

[quick coyote]

Putting weapon/util randomiser mode into world tour might be fun

[mortal egret]

@pseudo latch how dare you ask for minigun buff…use the M60. (EMBARK BUFF THE SHIT OUT OF MINIGUN, ITS SO BAD!!!!!) thanks 🙂

[boreal wagon]

hey can we get a recoil pattern overhaul for the ARN? the multiple recoil patterns that are conditional to how much you're shooting is SUPER unintuitive...

[inner zodiac]

Please fix matchmaking it is so annoying getting put against dedicated trios with first time players

[quasi delta]

Also the ARN-220 has the 3rd highest recoil pattern in this game.

[supple nebula]

add jeff

[versed cloud]

Add Cronus Zen detection for console.

[dense dagger]

Can we get the rank beside the name of a player directly in your friend list

[shy token]

why is there still no molotov cocktail skin for pyro nade

[iron pollen]

i got hit in the head by a sledgehammer and it gave me brain damage

[merry estuary]

QUIT ARC RAIDERS EMBARK PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS JUST FOCUS ON FINALS FIRST

[runic cargo]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[quick coyote]

Kyoto continues to suck major peen

[plush sand]

tell me how TF im doing my placements agains ruby players and winning but my friends lose 2 win 1 and second pplace 1 and get more points

[icy falcon]

MAKE THE SPEAR THROWABLE

[verbal moat]

Buff DB to 14 damage and increase range 0.5m at least until you fix the hit registration. The most inconsistent weapon in the game besides sledge.

[cosmic rain]

Is there anyway the dev can bring back old battle pass content, because I miss season 2 up to 4 and just return in season 5

[rotund gust]

can you please fix up and down flight buttons on controller. LB is up and also ping its really annoying. make it RT AND LT and also A and B like before. It's fine to have double binds. everyone will be happy.
I never want stun to come back lol. The only thing not totally vile about it was steal denials. Those were cool.

[vast plover]

Asia region full of cheaters

[sonic salmon]

it used to detect macros and would kick you mid game if you used a macro but sometime between seasons they removed that. And somewhere it says it cheating if you use one so just report them for it

[hot breach]

🙏 amen!

[muted grail]

NERF M11

[jovial viper]

Sword feels awful to play against

[shy thicket]

use the bug spray (flamethrower) (it makes the lights waste the dashes to stop the fire damage too)

[low falcon]

XP54 did not need a buff, all we're doing is repeating the mistakes from S3. LH1 felt less oppresive AND less common than this

[wild blaze]

I've been in queue for ranked for 1 hour now. Kinda just wanna play the game... We can't find 24 people in SA to get a game going?? I'm sad bruh

[cosmic oriole]

Xp is overtuned now, its extremely oppressive even at long range too

[spring mauve]

Too many light players are playing the game; please make the other classes more appealing.

[proud skiff]

A very weird but bad glitch for M60
after im revived usually or at random mid gunfight my M60 clips into my face when I ADS completely blinding me from using it

[lethal wedge]

Skill issue

[hard shuttle]

The heavy either needs more damage or more health or something because right now I don't think there's any reason to play heavy

[copper blaze]

This, and:
Nerf light

[tardy cloud]

Leaving a TA prevents you from joining(i.e you get suspended) like it was ranked. That's it. No ranting about meta, just this :)

[dusty beacon]

Nickname system for crossplatform players please

[bronze fractal]

Add some #official-art for each sponsor, each season. Could even be still-frames from existing promo content, I just want to set my Desktop/Mobile wallpapers to show whom I'm sponsored with.

[humble lion]

Get rid of cloaking or nerf it to hell and it will be a good game. Getting insta kill by invisible man is pretty boring.

[surreal meadow]

where are you getting this data

[chrome basin]

Still early in the season. Most decent players are probably grinding WT and just have done their placement matches. I get placed in Gold 1 (29K) season 5 and I am ruby. Just give it a few more weeks. Player base is low and will probably balance itself out into proper RS brackets soon enough

[quick coyote]

Let me slide for longer. It feels nice to have those long slides

[ruby timber]

• give S1 - 2 diamond players backgrounds / charms

• make the max weapon camo level an amethyst skin

[naive vortex]

bro whast wrong with sword as a sword main there is like 4 of us total its not that bad ive literally never seen a good one in game and ive seen one on youtube (also buff sword and grapple pls i want more power thx embark) oh and nerf the sonar things on the ground the range is a little far and they work when your behind walls sometimes really annoying

[humble lance]

Nerf everything, each gun should do 1 damage per second

[jovial needle]

please give us numbers for weapon stats. the current bars are very vague and unhelpful

[woeful quail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/ljnTjAT2Zf

[umbral pendant]

it killed me 1v1 so we have to nerf it

[thorn kelp]

Imagine they add a Sapphire or Amethyst skin that is only towards casual play

We have Emerald for World Tour

We have Ruby for Ranked

Maybe it's time to introduce another gem that rewards those casual gamers

[outer estuary]

Me when umbrella skin for sword with a custom inspect that opens it and starts spinning

[ripe escarp]

Embark let me invest in ur stocks

[grand temple]

LET ME INVEST IN UR STOCKS

[wary solar]

please let us invest in the dip embark

[potent solar]

can you reduce the hitbox / sensitivity for vaulting and have it be more in favor of jumping? I don't know how many times I've died because my character decided to vault a random door 5 ft away from me.. a little bit would help

[ocean parrot]

Sword is frustrating to play against

[clear shoal]

I uploaded this to reddit this evening and it got a pretty damn good reception take a look

[random smelt]

this is a very good idea ngl, i'd play that.

[sturdy sandal]

I agree

[runic cargo]

BRING BACK BANK IT

[slow sparrow]

can we get cross hair codes/individual crosshairs that we can set per weapon or just have like 4 or 5 that we can save

[rough storm]

nerf cerberus alr

@naive vortex every 1/4 games for me theres a sword team where the sword has double sometimes tripple the kills of anyone in the game and their team controls who goes through and who doesn't with the double cashout in the end. And i'm talking top 3000-ish here so that's a wild take you have there

[brittle obsidian]

the day cerb gets nerfed and embark locks in and reworks light specs is the day the game becomes perfect

[dim hedge]

guys can we please remove blanks ruby badge

[crisp heart]

the xp54 should not have the ability to erase health at the range it does, its an smg .... either make it harder to use at 45m+ range or make it do less dps at 45m+ range

[woven grove]

A gifting items feature would be so helpful for new players with more veteran friends, gifting guns and gadgets and specializations and stuf

[dreamy ore]

CAN YOU PLEASE NERF THE FUCKING XP 54 , THIS LASER BEAM IS UNBearable, high RPM, not recoil penalty, huge range !. this weapon was fine before last patch. At least have in mid is a SMG ytou can reduce the range of effectivness

[wanton hornet]

HUD cosmetics could be a cool thing to be sold or like a different style of hud based on your sponsor(can be turned off of course)

[alpine falcon]

Gonna say it again: If being invisible doesn't help me:

• Hide from passing enemies (Not completely invisible when stand-still)
• Approach head-on (Obvious distortion effect)
• Execute a flank (Loud Obvious Warbling Noise)
  Then literally the only thing it's good for is avoiding a turret, but there are dozens of other items that can do the same thing just as easy, and odds are I'm going to get detected by a Motion Sensor or random Sonar Nade. I'm not asking for a crazy buff just make it feel rewarding to use, and maybe make the title: CLOAKING Device feel accurate.

If I wanted to feel slightly harder to see I would just change outfits.

[wide void]

The way your Pyro Mine works is honestly some of the stupidest design I've ever seen. It deals an inital burst of explosive damage and then sets the level geometry around it on fire -- except if the level geometry is destroyed by the initial explosion, no fire actually takes place. This means people can sit right on top of a Pyro Mine and not get set on fire.

I'm not sure if it's the same or a similar phenomenon, but I've also seen that if you use Explosive Mine + Pyro Mine or C4 + Pyro Mine in the training area, you can have the Pyro Mine explode but not spawn a fire at all. Which again, means no afterburn.

Why the fuck can't you just make it set people on fire directly?

[torn talon]

Can we give benefits to solo q?

[placid obsidian]

My feedback is that the game is great.

[rotund gust]

asking for ARN recoil changes is crazy 😅 that things a lazer beam

[mighty tinsel]

Love the game

[wicked ledge]

When is dlss 4 transformer model coming?

[iron leaf]

To the Competent Authority of The Finals Administration
Subject: Formal Complaint and Demand for Just Punishment of Team Pink’s Disgraceful Conduct
Dear Sir or Madam,
I, the undersigned complainant, noble bearer of a Christmas Elf skin and selfless savior in the eleventh hour, hereby lodge a formal objection to the reprehensible and unsportsmanlike behavior exhibited by Team Pink on this day, April 07, 2025. Their actions have trampled upon both the honor of the game and the sacred principles of camaraderie with reckless abandon.
Statement of Facts:
On the aforementioned date, adorned in a Christmas Elf skin as a gesture of utmost nobility and festive symbolism, I executed a heroic Double Cashout in the final second, securing Team Pink’s qualification for Round 2. This act, akin to an early Christmas gift, was intended to stand as a testament to generosity and team spirit in the annals of The Finals. Yet, rather than expressing gratitude, Team Pink repaid my benevolence in Round 2 with a treacherous third-party assault, resulting in the elimination of both our team and themselves in an act of sheer infamy.
Legal Basis and Allegations:
The conduct of Team Pink constitutes a flagrant violation of the unwritten laws of decency and fairness implicitly upheld within The Finals community. By their actions, they have not only mocked my selfless efforts but also irreparably tarnished the integrity of the competition. Such behavior must be deemed willful and disgraceful ingratitude, warranting immediate and exemplary retribution.
Demands:
I hereby request:

1. The immediate and permanent ban (commonly referred to as a “permaban”) of the entirety of Team Pink from all Finals competitions, to prevent any recurrence of such transgressions.
2. A condemnation of Team Pink to 1,000 years of public shame, symbolically recorded by permanently marking their player profiles with the designation “Ungrateful Third-Party Traitors.”
3. An official apology from Team Pink to my person, preferably in the form of a virtual kneel, to acknowledge the gravity of their misdeed.
   Closing Statement:
Should this complaint fail to receive the attention it deserves, I shall be compelled to escalate the matter to the highest tribunal of The Finals community court—namely, by posting a fiery denunciation on X, ensuring Team Pink’s shame is preserved for posterity.
   With utmost indignation and in anticipation of your severe measures,
Döner3fünfzig
Bearer of the Christmas Elf Skin and Victim of Heinous Ingratitude

[graceful rover]

I love this game so far. I play it primarily on PS5, and it's very fun. Can be frustrating sometimes, but there's always a competitive and frankly hilarious back and forth in matches. It is the most fun and refreshing FPS on the current gen consoles.

[kindred cosmos]

Delete Scotty.

[umbral swift]

Evasive Dash and Sword are both balanced, neither need nerfs.

[low falcon]

Some positive feedback: man I just love the character creator. Never thought I would have this much fun playing mf dressup but this game changed my mind lol. So many good designs, loads of content for free, and seemingly unlimited creativity for your appearance.

[elder birch]

day 2 of asking for sa12 to be unnerfed

[trail nimbus]

Neither did the 1887 but it still got nerfed

[boreal rivet]

1. Learn counterplay, there are people that can teach you how to beat sword lights.
2. Don't whine about your win/lose ration in public chats. You are asking to be bullied. Unless you're into that in which I can not help you.

[violet elbow]

this

[proven venture]

#⚡┇the-finals-chat message
so how would I beat this

[umbral pendant]

lower TTK and reduce spawn times

[stray wing]

Please embark, give light Next Season a new specialization. Every other class already got one.

But I also wanted to say good job. I think the Game is currently in a pretty good blanced position, of course there Are always issues, but its currently really good. And Overall your Game is just amazing

[mortal egret]

Hoping and praying minigun gets justice Wednesday 🙏 need that juicy buff Embark and it needs it BAD. Tighten the spread 30%, destructible dmg +60%, spin time EXACTLY .8 seconds and you will have a masterpiece. (TF2 heavy’s minigun takes exactly .8 seconds to spin up) currently suffering against lights with XP-54’s rn. I rlly need to shred some lights rn. If you a light main I hate you…I’m bein so fr. JUSTICE FOR THE MINIGUN!!! RAHHHHHHHHH

[quick coyote]

I feel like the cash you extract from games should do something, should still do something, Anything at all, it would give an incentive to still try no matter what cause you will still make some cash at the end of the round, even if you dont win. the whole point of the game is to make money playing the finals but money is useless and you buy stuff with VR instead which is always a flat amount you get at the end no matter what, I guess is too late to rework the way you buy stuff but it would help with the whole "game show vibe" we are supposed to go for.

following with that, the game should have more events, aliens do nothing, low gravity is extremely lame, the laser one is the only one that has some impact because it stops you from camping, Ranked can still be boring slop without any fun events to preserve the illusion of "fairness" but casual play and maybe world tour should have more chaos, you have a gimmick of being a game show that you dont fully utilize and i feel like its being wasted.

[upper moon]

Add in the ability to change your sight mid match or at the start of the match

[modern ether]

legit not touching ranked until the Cerberus is nerfed. It can do 170 in one shot as im moving. Fire your balancing team

[fallow urchin]

PLEASE MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO THROW GRENADES BEHIND OVER YOUR SHOULDER. A PRACTICAL USE, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD BE THROWING A GOO GRENADE OVER YOUR SHOULDER WHILE YOU RETREAT.

ALSO, FIX THE CASH FLOW MANAGER GLITCH. I REACHED $100M AND RECEIVED DIAMOND WHILE OTHERS RECEIVED AMYTHUS OR HOWEVER IT'S SPELLED.

[hazy shore]

cap

[warm epoch]

Idk if embarks actually reading any of this feedback but seriously how hard is it to make certain changes for this game? I don't want to play another game of Kyoto moving platforms let alone Kyoto at all but for some reason I'm led to believe that removing a variation of a map is too difficult for embark to do. Is my understanding of video game design so poor that I really don't understand how difficult of a change that is to implement? So many people are quick to call developers lazy but can we actually get an explanation on why things like changing the sword light damage is such a difficult thing to do? Every argument for this game revolves around lower your expectations because "embark just cant work on everything" but there are plenty of issues that seemingly could be finished within a week or even a days work. So that begs the question what about these things is truly just too difficult to accomplish or why is there nobody at embark willing to step up and say I'll be the one here to get it done. Because as much as I understand there's a small team working on this game when issues that a person could fix with minimal effort are ignored I wonder whether its a issue of the size of the team or the people on the team itself. (some guy mentioned the stun gun in chat another great example what is up with that? is someone working on it? is there a due date on these things? I really wonder)

[sinful finch]

nerf xp and sword

[broken pawn]

revert the communication wheel delay... its still way to slow (at least on console), especially on console, I've mistakenly sent the wrong pings because the wheel is too slow to show up. thank you have a nice day

[upper agate]

revert model back from what it used to be, completely crushed by cerberus

[rancid lily]

free me from the random bans when my tm8s have completely left the match 🙏

[fresh aurora]

Devs should really work on booting/pairing speed. I love THE FINALS but often find myself playing overwatch cuz I’m too lazy to wait for THE FINALS to boot

[cerulean wasp]

nerf dash + sword

[supple nebula]

add jeff

[twin helm]

devs really dont care about this game with how oppressive and annoying lights are

[quasi delta]

then why do they have the overall lowest winrate in this game

[raw cloak]

I'd love to see if there would be collaboration between the finals and the invincible man's...but dang I would buy the omni man and long he got those thick cheeks