👂┇game-feedback

[full inlet]

Gotta love my messages being deleted. Don't be mad cause we hate the wheel even after the "reconfiguration" and the new "consolation ticket" that ends up just giving another dupe!

[short fox]

Dupes should not be allowed, if anything just a respin everytime

[tulip steppe]

I don’t know what y’all did to winch but it’s so ass right now

[lament plank]

Why is the location at the highest point in the map of SYSHORIZON indestructable of all places? All of the other maps with high sniper perches are destructable but the location that's directly above where the PowerShift platform is always abused by snipers without much counterplay (destroying their perch)

Wish i can send an image to describe it but i hope you get what i mean

[tacit whale]

Can you just remove Kyoto for like a season or something

[soft ferry]

AGREED

[half hawk]

Or just forever… my FPS drop so much on that map

[tropic snow]

wtf is this epilepsy bs

[rich root]

omg nice

[coarse spade]

bruh this happened to me last tuesday

[chrome basin]

Your spawns fucking suck ass EMBARK

last 30 seconds. Our cashout. We get spawned 200 meters away? MAKE IT MAKE FUCKING SENSE. HOLY SHIT. YOUR CODE LOGIC IS SO FUCKIGN TRASH

[keen lily]

sorry for steam overlay on the screenshot but are you fucking serious Embark?! solo queue at 36k RP and I am tanking -1k RP because I don't get teammates? are you expecting me to win the game on my own? what is this joke? and to win it back often one tournament win is not enough (takes 30min and you get +800 RP often)! not to mention it is hard to win games at this elo. is this because of the crossplay enabled, wtf?

there should be RP compensation for this, exactly like for queing with cheaters

[raw blaze]

I literally hit 4 fucking respins in a row. How are people supposed to get everything from this without buying the cosmetics?

You have to let us either get tickets a different way, or remove the wheel. Make it progression based. Or with challenges like every other event!

[manic salmon]

NERF THE FKIN SWORD you know what FK THE GAME i quit it wasn't popular anyways

[rigid shale]

interesting how you didn't mention daggers have the fastest ttk. i don't disagree with you, i just think it's relevant to bring up when talking about ttk. i love dagger and don't wanna see it left out of ttk discussions

[signal basin]

Yeah dagger can OS two class, that's right but at least you have to be a minimum skilled to do that. Even more after the nerf.
It's totally diff from a RPG, a nade or something like this

[frosty swallow]

nobody:
embark: WE BUFFED THE CERBERUS AND THE PIKE BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTED IT YAY :):):)
MOST FUCCKING CRUTCH GUNS IN THE GAME NOBODY ASKED FOR IT ITS PRE NERF MODEL V2 BUT EVEN WORSE BECAUSE IT IONE SHOTS LIGHTS

[glass fjord]

Sword Vs Cerberus Meta rn (aka hitreg gambling is fun)

[wide summit]

Revert quick melee change, it makes using the sniper and other weapons im sure annoying as hell. Also please take a look at the model shotgun as it is basically torture to use now.

[modest patio]

I'm going to stop dedicating my time to THE FINALS. It's taking away from my mental health, it's also not really doing much of a good job being the competitive esport it could be. I love THE FINALS with all of my heart, but every day the game is making me feel sad, and let down. This game has so much unlocked potential, im just hopping Embark takes it. But time, and time again, they just haven't yet. I love you Embark, you got a goldmine waiting for you, please take it

[blissful smelt]

I took a 3 days full pause and tried again today. I can confirm there was a regression on the experience and it's 80% in charge of the L BUFFS. In detail how they ruin the experience:

• some UNSEABLE L randomly kill you during trasnfers along the map. Not relevant but irritating.
• you're indoor wall covered but there was an unseable L doing an UZI burst SO FAST that you're killed into a 0.1 sec. And I am a M.
• a overpowered L "launching knives" attack frontally and literally wipe the team, throwing continously. Unbelivable, it's SEASON 5 and launching knives it's still BROKEN

[low gate]

pls leave tdm in the game

[silver meteor]

Why does my audio sound 3d or some shit

[candid fog]

So why do I get a bronze and silver teammate in diamond?

[full inlet]

Agree with you 1000% percent. Especially weaponizing FOMO. How convenient that the ticket collecting ends before the whole event ends! It's so players get FOMO and buy the missing items. In my opinion the final outfit sucks ass except for the wings. They got me with the Halloween wheel. They aren't getting me with this one. Halloween final outfit was dope but this Valentine's day outfit looks recycled af.

[minor egret]

8 tickets in a row getting nothing, yay. i still have 7 rewards left too

[vapid lion]

Can there be a setting to prefer spectating party members in large modes like TDM and Power Shift. I want to watch my friends play not some of my bot temamates shooting at the floor

[hearty bough]

Riot shield needs to be able to block other melees, particularly light sword - it is a completely unwinnable matchup for riot shield, the most egregious counter in the entire game with virtually no counterplay

[night glen]

I still think the DEV that came up with STUN and the devs who keep deciding to keep it should all have to take a pay cut

[potent wagon]

VOTE WITH YOU WALLET. DO NOT GIVE IN TO FOMO.

if you want to see real change, you need to make it abundantly clear that this RNG lootbox bullshit is unacceptable. they clearly don't care how many people are actually playing because they make no effort to bring new people into the community, so the only thing that we can do is hit them where it hurts. their wallet.

[signal basin]

Embark. It's when you want to buff XP54 and Light survability. Thank you

[dense tinsel]

I would like to know if it would be possible to find out the name of the player we reported and who actually turns out to be a hacker. Sometimes it helps because when the difference is very noticeable, we sometimes remember the name we reported, and it would be useful to know if what we suspected was indeed a hacker.

These past few days, I have been receiving report acknowledgments for three days in a row, and I would like to know if they are for recent reports or from when.

[limpid dome]

I get the wheel from a business perspective. But the frequent duplicates and low probability of completing it in time is bad psychologically. It’s bad design that forces a negative experience on the player.

[whole palm]

tdm very nice but new maps when? (sheoul, branal)

[junior temple]

"Interrupt steal" challenge should be removed. You basically have to play like a dummy to complete this one

[vague sorrel]

that would be vile

[smoky gust]

that would allow them to disengage from any fight in a split second if they just stick close to a wall
it would probably make them infuriatingly hard to kill like the deadringer does for spy in tf2
i dont think thats a good idea

[hearty bough]

Object physics seem to be in really rough shape rn, maybe a server issue. Multiple times I’ve picked up a teammates revive totem, ran with it, dropped it with right click - only for it to fly away in a random direction as if I threw it or had a ton of momentum prior to dropping it. Same goes for the cash box. Please fix

[pallid gull]

Server desync has gotten really bad on EU lobbies. Half of the hits are no regs.
The netcode was outstanding during S1-S3 but somewhere during Season 4, I guess when the shift to Unreal Engine 5.3 happened, the hit registration dropped drastically for some player while others are playing in easy mode, like in the old COD host lobbies, since they are not affected of the lag compensation or whatever.
I spent hundreds on this lovely game but this experience is really making me leave...

[quartz dirge]

glitch nade skin idea

[maiden shell]

Adjust QM damage based off class since light regens health the fastest and heavy the slowest, then light should have a 30 damage Quick melee, heavy should have a 50 damage QM

[winter crane]

They should make a lacrosse stick skin for the sledge hammer and it has a unique inspec animation or emote where it does stick tricks with it

[gilded hull]

range was nerfed from 12 to 10m

[tulip steppe]

Nah it’s more than that. I feel like there’s a delay when u winch someone

[spark shard]

do not waste your time anymore playing ranked solo queue, Embark is not going to fix anything about that, matchmaking is broken for solo players since season 2, I was fighting against ruby players (in team, of course) with 20K ELO more than me a couple of times, super great experience.

[silent fog]

DB is so fun you buffed cerb to make one like it for medium, I am sure new and current players really enjoy this garbage.

[sly acorn]

Yes to all of these suggestions. Your body paint suggestion also gave me another idea: Preset outfits that we can change/apply to any loadout without changing the loadout. I'd love to be able to change my loadout's outfit on a whim before a game.

[silver jewel]

Embark i like what you did the spin the wheel, but it needs more refinement it's nice having the if you get a duplicate you get a ticket piece but it's completely wasted when you get a ticket just to get another duplicate, i should get the whole ticket back if i land on duplicate after i landed on a duplicate to get the last ticket piece, for yours and your communities sanity bring back to option to purchase event spin the wheel items with VR's again and make something of worth to use of VR's on besides just using VR's to buy new weapons gadgets and specializations, and for the love of all that is gaming get rid of FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out) because gaming is meant to be fun and enjoyed not stressing over i have to get this done before the season ends and a lot of gaming studios are plagued with Greed, Bungie and EA are pure examples of Greed, so for a better future in gaming communicate with your community and player base, treat them as your Equals not as your next paycheck.

[maiden shell]

Adjust QM damage based off class since light regens health the fastest and heavy the slowest, then light should have a 30 damage Quick melee, heavy should have a 50 damage QM

[desert heath]

develepors give 0 fugs what we want or not they saw bad feed back on last wheel and yet here we are again...

[devout grotto]

please make the model1887 great again. 13 damage a pellet is the most balanced it has ever been as it's actually usable at that rate.
Also can we get MnK on console back already. I beg you.

[obsidian timber]

please get rid of the melee in this game. sledge reaches way farther than it should and the dash and sword are completely busted

[potent solar]

noticed 3rd partying in wt is worse, idk if it was because I was playing over the weekend and kids are on, new players, or change in the plug meta. but several rounds in each tourney had 1 team solo holding a cashout while the other was a constant brawl. not like this previously

[twin flicker]

Blender is the right tool for submitting skins models to the devs?

[mortal notch]

did you even read my reply

[edgy oak]

FIX THE STAFF

[jagged cedar]

dagger has a slower ttk against medium than half the medium weapons do on light*

[soft spear]

7 spins and no items, why do this embark.??

[rigid shale]

i don't have a stopwatch but releasing a right click is pretty fast. 320 takes zero seconds to deal 250 damage. maybe the problem is we're measuring different start/stop times. are we counting the windup? the 3 frame hit? the time it takes to get behind them? (how would you measure that)

[maiden shell]

Adjust QM damage based off class since light regens health the fastest and heavy the slowest, then light should have a 30 damage Quick melee, heavy should have a 50 damage QM

[lean tree]

• Please do something about these Que times… been Queing for like 7min. Im 33k points in ranked this is crazy. (Estimated Que time is 1min????)
• Fix matchmaking, should not be possible for me as a PLAT player to be matched with ruby and diamond players every match. Where are the #1 seeds against golds or even silver. When i was gold i was constantly matched with plats and now im plat we barely get 1st, 2nd or even 3rd seed

[limber verge]

I think for TDM on SkySta we oughta use the construction site instead of the Shopping District (or maybe use both for more variety since we already use every major zone) since Shopping has a few too many places to hide making Heavy a little limp.
also add silly reactions to the robot skins ^_^

[full inlet]

The wheel is dookie butter

[hexed walrus]

I feel like adding killcams to the game would help a ton. if someone thinks a player is hacking, they have no way to see their POV to see if their aim is suspicious. If we added killcams, players (and moderators) would more easily be able to spot hackers and deal with the problem.

[ionic crescent]

are you just going to spam this every hour? if you need to cry somewhere go to reddit

[austere dew]

Are you talking about the spin the wheel valentines thing? I havent even played much during the event and have basically everything lol what are you going on about?

[stark jackal]

I'm missing four items. I can relate to what he is talking about. Getting four duplicates and then getting a fifth duplicate after for the free spin is kinda annoying.

[smoky gust]

i was kind of hopeful that the visual changes for dagger might be good enough
but with this much chaos, frantic movement, visual clutter and everything else it gets lost way too quickly and rarely helps if at all

[zinc ember]

yeah i mean, if you just play enough you get everything, isnt that the way live service/BP usually work? I get the RNG is frustrating but idk. the whole thing about "weaponized fomo" seems more like a gripe with any exclusive cosmetics in any game lmfao. This feels no different from any other season to me. Play a lot, win a lot, youll have the stuff to show for it. If you dont like that, nobody is Forcing you to feel like your missing out lol. just dont play this season and come back if you like the next?

I dont wanna undermine your frustration, but it really doesnt seem like a Finals issue. more of a live service/BP/event issue

[candid badge]

can we just do something about light? its unplayable dying instantly to a light thats there one moment and teleported across the map in the next. its truly unenjoyable to play this game against more than one or two lights in the lobby and im tired of embarks response being "lets nerf medium and heavy 😁" honestly disappointing how this game is falling off

[solemn sedge]

Stop displaying top 500 in ranked. It causes the experience of other players to be ruined and makes every other team third party each other because they’re too scared to fight em. Just show them as diamond or smthn cus it’s stupid.

[maiden shell]

I've done every single challenge and still need 3 items. The cutoff is tomorrow/today

[grand halo]

daily reminder that servers are dogshit with the addition that there is still not enough DEET available to ward off the epidemic of lights clip farming on power shift

[potent wagon]

I've literally played every day of the event and gotten all 3 tickets EVERY DAY and still could not get the SINGLE item I wanted. I absolutely refuse to give them my money for this dogshit wheel. And yes, it is a gripe I have with pretty much the entire industry but Embark used to do really well with this kind of stuff. the most successful game on the market rn (Rivals) has $5 PB and they never expire AND they give you the option to choose the rewards you want. I was previously able to over look the annoyance of the FOMO BP, but after seeing games like halo infinite, Rivals, DBD and others that don't weaponize their players emotions against them, I am no longer able to justify giving my money to companies for scummy sales practices just because its "the standard." it should never have been the standard in the first place and its because people keep buy into these horrible systems that they still exist. if we as a community want the games we love to be consumer friendly then we need to make a statement about it. if they aren't willing to hear our voices then we need to start voting with our wallets. I have already started voting with my wallet and now I am making my voice heard and making it EXPLICITLY clear what the issue is. if they change their systems and start acting in a way that is consumer friendly then I will give them some money, but until then, the answer is and will remain no.

[untold hazel]

yea drop me 200 meters from my own cashout

[icy falcon]

MAKE THE SPEAR THROWABLE

[austere dew]

I think that for both the dagger and the sword lunge they should add an audio and or a visual queue like a little glow or some particles to show you that the charge up is finished. Letting go of your charge attack .1 seconds too early and canceling it is infuriating.

[smoky gust]

fine by me, but i do worry that this is also just going to be lost as well (especially when youre getting into the flow and kind of suppress little details like that)

i was hoping pressing m2 just charges it the full .8 seconds, and when whenever youre not pressing m2 anymore, it stabs
so if you only tap it, it stabs as soon as possible, and otherwise you can just hold it like right now

[frigid wasp]

Revert Fcar to 20 mag period, winch distance increase to 15m, unnerf medium and heavy

[fathom hearth]

nerf lights the game would be a lot more enjoyable

[gray flare]

video game 👍 good job on the last balance patch this game feels better than ever

[queen citrus]

I dunno where to post this.

First time playing on PC. Lobby Audio is normal. In game audio turns muffled and trash upon entering match? (PC).

Been playing on console for months with no issue and great audio. Is this normal on PC?

[candid badge]

or hear me out.. make it have some team playability? right now its purely just a leech class that doesnt do anything besides kill and teleport around

[soft spear]

Agreed played 371hrs on the game, don’t know why they couldn’t have done a bow and arrow game similar to steal the spot light. With some difficult challenges.

[quartz dirge]

buff vrs gain

[willow nova]

When to make horizontal DPI and vertical DPI, separate them，I think FPS should have

[little cove]

Dude I have 18/20 items collected in the wheel of love and now you're telling me I can't earn more tickets?

[granite schooner]

Does wheel end today or tomorrow? Wanna know if I should do what Embark wants and pay for shit after being stuck at 16/20 for 5 days cause RNG gods are lame as fuck

[austere dew]

couldnt agree more. it needs better team utility instead of so many selfish gadgets and specializations. The other classes bring so much to the table. The best team utility light has is gateway and glitch grenades. Which are both cool dont get me wrong, but they definitely aren't why people play light. Buff up their team utility and reduce their obnoxious solo options (like invis lol)

[wooden atlas]

This 👆👆👆 I’ve been wanting it for SO long

[stray smelt]

death effects would be cool

[rough monolith]

Yea fr just buy them

[forest jungle]

wait wdym "back" did they add kbm at some point?

[dark niche]

i mean, theyre slowly giving light more team-focused, with things like the gateway & gravity vortex but i agree
i think the main problem though is the players & the light specs really, because light has some great teamplay if you choose to play like that, but the specs help influence lights to play solo (which...idk what they would do to fix the specs while still keeping it as a hit & run class, but idk)

[lilac coral]

It was season 1

[hybrid hearth]

I just finished it for free.. skill issue

anyways Embark,
STRICTER PUNISHMENTS FOR LEAVING RANKED, WORLD TOUR, AND TERMINAL ATTACK MID GAME

[wet sky]

19/20 for the past 4 days. Rng bs; hate the wheel.

[fathom hearth]

im so happy double barrel can just instantly 2 tap heavies thats so balanced!

[rugged temple]

It quite literally is balanced.

[candid badge]

blud does NOT play the game 😭 🙏

[maiden shell]

When lights want to play cod and force all the other players around them to die like it's cod

[next gazelle]

please can we get more customization for private lobbies in season 6

[tawny oriole]

I play the finals since close beta and i can confirm that the game is no more enjoyable, since every updatethey nerf something that make the game special because there is always some kidis are crying here in discord, after debi skill cool down is the last thing that kill my enjoy

[burnt notch]

u still have 21 more chances to get the item u want, i wouldnt start complaining until after those chances r up

[potent wagon]

nope, tickets end tomorrow, but of course you can still SPEND MONEY TO GET THEM]

[lean tree]

PLEASE make a change on this plug bonus! Could be changed to when you plug it and you keep it for lets say like 1/3 of the cash out you will get the plug bonus but not instantly. Past few days ive had so many encounters of full stack Light teams just runnin stun and dash then go plug and then go away to defend the cash out they had first

[fast crypt]

I bet my life as an object if I don't get the last object in the roulette wheel..
my life that, like last time, I won't get the last item...
and i won't get my prize in the form of a suit..
I'm going to get a tattoo that Embark is a bunch of " an offensive word calling a certain group of people " ⭐

[stuck depot]

Embark, you need to redesign the menu for selecting game modes, genuinely just seen multiple posts on the sub reddit from people asking out to access power shift or TA, you need to put all game modes on a single screen rather than handing them in a sub menu. After all the work you put in to making bank it a fun casual mode, it takes 10mins to find a game cause people don't know it exists

[devout grotto]

@forest jungle yeah when the finals first came out it had native MnK on console. There was no settings you could change or keybind settings. It just worked with regular keybinds.

[wintry trout]

woohoo 4 spins today and 4 dupes
no different from every other day
I get 4 dupes, I get a 4 spin, my free spin is another dupe. every. single. time.

[rough depot]

game feels like it gets worse with every patch.

[maiden shell]

great sword

parry mechanic
does an upward slash (opposite of sledge direction)
while holding parry teammates can use as a portable launch pad
to balance have a stamina meter for parry (block meter)
momentum based slashing (longer time swinging faster it attacks) (first 4-5 swings, the speed increases then stays at max speed for 15-25 more swings)

4 special attacks to destroy wall. Special attacks take 2 seconds from start up of parry pose.
while parrying blocks 25% of dmg
35 dmg for primary swing (maybe less dmg per swing)
250 dmg for secondary (charged upwards slash)

[dark niche]

seemingly unpopular opinion: the db is balanced...??? sure it two taps heavies if you hit your shots literally perfect but you arent hitting your shots literally perfect all the time‼️

[manic salmon]

I quit the game a few days ago, but I’ve got some suggestions that could make it more enjoyable.

The current 3v3v3v3 format where you get eliminated by a third party is awful. Why not switch to a 6v6 format on a larger map? That would definitely make it more exciting.

The game is too meta-driven, which is ridiculous. All weapons should be balanced to give players more freedom in their choices.

There are a lot of hackers in high-ranked matches, which is frustrating.

The practice range feels pretty useless and lacks many essential features needed for effective training.

A solo mode could help, especially in Diamond rank, where teammates often rush toward the cash box, making it frustrating to play.

It would also be fun to introduce a mode where only one class is allowed per match. Or, maybe a 3-round mode where each round restricts players to a specific class: lights in round 1, mediums in round 2, and heavies in round 3.

The ranked queue system is ridiculous. You lose a lot of rank points, and it takes hours to get them back. It also doesn’t make sense to queue platinum, gold and ruby players together.

Embark isn’t transparent about cheaters or the reporting system. They should show how many players were banned, like other games do.

TDM (Team Deathmatch) maps are not suited for the mode. It would be better if there were classic simple small maps no high buildings just barricades or basic sandbox and specific spawn points for teams.

Add decimal values to the sensitivity settings for more precision.

The aim assist on console feels like cheating, especially with the LH1 weapon.

Overall, the game is good, but it’s still far from perfect. Most players get bored after a few weeks at max level.

[lime lichen]

no, db is op as fuck

[barren fern]

spawns need to be at least like 20m closer to the cashout when it's happening. i run for so long and can't make a play because the spawn is too far. like if you don't want me to play, just boot me from the game.

[thorn sundial]

Yeah Heavy class it's extremely low

[loud sandal]

Style options order could make more sense. It seems a lot random.

Could start from the head all the way down to the shoes. This always annoys me when I'm editing a character

[glossy viper]

Just to say thank you Embark team for this amazing and unique game! GGs yall!

[blazing gull]

also give meaningful ranks to each cosmetic, too many weapon skins have messed up skin ranks

[vague maple]

The only thing stopping this update from being perfect is the slide audio bug still being a thing and the inability to switch spectating/loadout bug.

[oak kernel]

Actually though, or go in an order that at least makes sense. I'd much prefer all the accessories be next to each other and HEAD, TORSO, and LEGS all be right next to each other since they're my most changed items. I kind of understand how they've got it sorted now, but I still can't find things quickly. The names of the categories kind of suck too. Like "lower body" should just be "legs".

[fleet socket]

Like how sonar grenade level 6 colors the gadgets more then the ones above it

[potent wagon]

fuck this awful nonsensical bullshit horrid RNG event. holy fuck who thought this was a good idea. if your intent was to get me to spend money, its not working. I dont ever want to give you my money again after this. lots of us here have given you guys HUNDREDS of hours of time and attention (the most valuable resource on the planet) and all we ever seem to get is lazy half baked recycled content. I absolutely love this game but I am quickly approaching my cut off point. I'm absolutely fed up with this kind of bullshit. the only power we have is to vote with our wallets and our attention. I've already started voting with my wallet after fortune stadium came out because of how lazy of a map it is and how poorly it was designed. I am about to start voting with my attention and just uninstall out of spite. spitting in the face of your dedicated players and community by weaponizing FOMO for a few dollars instead of putting in the work to make a good event is completely unacceptable.

[hearty bough]

I’m a heal beam / defib support main and even I can say that the defib nerf was 100% a good change. Defib is still fun to use and still basically a must-pick gadget for Medium, which realistically means it probably needs some other form of nerf so it isn’t so insanely strong.

Just because something was super OP (and bad for the overall game experience) does not inherently make it fun, it just makes it easy to use.

Realistically the only thing that was super OP but DOES need to come back in some weaker form is nukes - the way they nerfed them was sort of lazy and made them totally useless.

@tawny oriole - follow up, one defib per player per team is a terrible idea and removes agency from the 2nd player who’s defib is now on cooldown because some other player used defib

[tawny oriole]

Skill cool down is bullshit they can add one defib per players when one defib is in cool down the other one can not use the defib but not total skill cool down

[keen matrix]

SRSLY TELL ME HOW I GET BRONZE AND SILVER AND GOLD OR WHAT SO EVER WHEM IM IN DIAMOND .... WHY DO I GET A 5 YEARS OLD WHO PLAYS ON A PLAYSTATION ON A TV FROM OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD WITH INSANE LAGG IN BRONZE WHEN IM IN DIAMOND...... TELLL HOW IS THAT A GOOD MATCHUP FOR U???? GET WAAAAAAY BETTER MATCHUP SYSTEM...

[maiden shell]

Maybe if the person you defib dies in the first 7 seconds of being revived your defib is shutdown until they coin or revive

[jagged vector]

TDM sucks and becomes a team full lights or a team full of mediums. Make kt so you can’t switch

[hexed walrus]

will SOMEBODY fix skill-based matchmaking???? I lost 5 rounds in a row, and what does the matchmaking do??? put me in a team full of literal newbies, and made us fight against actual gods with all meta loadouts. RELEASE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[worn tapir]

There's just way too many moments in this game where you ask yourself "how did i even die???" or "why am i stuck???" for it to be consistiently enjoyable. I think that is this game's biggest problem.

[proud skiff]

nerf cerberus its over buffed it should not be killing faster than sa1216. reload cancel nerf made it harder to win against cerberus

[torpid sky]

the wheel is such an amazing event i wish to see more of it in the future, also, loot boxes would go hard🔥🔥
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306910023628357674/1341137313849147464/image.png?ex=67b4e6f4&is=67b39574&hm=022ff54164296628ecaf0f68cad39c27a75741af50b3c8dfcb186080be496914&

[alpine falcon]

I like the character voices, but I wish there was more variety and you could choose them separate from the face/body. Little annoying not really being able to fit a character's design to the voice's personality. Also voices that are higher-pitched and excited like anime protags or very serious like COD characters would be amazing, especially when you have voices like Dede's.

[upper citrus]

19 free cosmetics

[urban sandal]

Some few ideas:

• Add option to put 5 sticker wherever you want on a weapon and change their sizes
• Custom seasons background (like jukebox soundtracks)
• MVP player card glow at end of match
• Customizing weapon crosshairs (colour change)
• Consecutive win streak counter badge on player card
• Pro-practice range, zippling, moving targets (L, M and H units) crouching, dashing, covering, jumping, sliding, on air tracking,
• Option to show your Embark ID username In-game on consoles instead of your PSN, XBX acc username
• Option to disable HUD on Consoles
• Lobster, Squirel, Snake, Fenec Fox, Ferret, Rabbit, Dragon-fly, Fenix, Hedgehog, Chameleon, Turtle for pets
• Repelay system, to rewatch past matches, analyze plays, and create content

[maiden shell]

Adjust QM damage based off class since light regens health the fastest and heavy the slowest, then light should have a 30 damage Quick melee, heavy should have a 50 damage QM

[tropic snow]

bring back goo plane 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[ionic rampart]

i can get behind the smoke reductions but tbh the scan effects being so flaky is definitely for the best. having perfect clarity on any kind of wallhack ability would be terrible for the game, and was part of why recon senses got axed to begin with

[tawny oriole]

Revert no skills cool down but just when medium revive one medium add defib skill cool down so that the other medium can not use defib during defib cool down . OMG you really destroyed the game, i really miss the finals season 3 before you started nerfing everything

[devout grotto]

imagine if Embark built upon this game instead of removing everything fun
This is the only game I've ever played where you could put c4 on an explosive barrel and launch it at someone annihilating them and blowing up part of a building sending fragments flying and they really removed it.

[hot cloud]

Hey actually dont nerf any class, just fix the spawns please, please no more free ride for 1 team because you spawn 3 beside each other

[ionic crescent]

one shotting an entire team =/= fun. Out of all the controversial changes they've made this was definitely the most justified.

[fading flame]

Make challenges and the battle pass easier to do so that I can play the finals and other games and have a life. I don’t want the finals to be the only thing in my life for me to get all the battle pass and challenge rewards. Please make exp gain easier! It makes me sick to see a good game with stupid progression.

Also

[verbal kayak]

Simple request: Get rid of slumming. AKA queueing with or having the matchmaker queue teams into each other having for example, a silver and two diamonds, or a plat, gold, and bronze because it "averages to the same". At the very least, make it so you can only queue within 3-4 leagues of your party. There is no reason a ruby should be able to queue with a bronze in ranked. It simply should not be allowed, every other game has this simple rule, and tighten your matchmaker to stop this from happening randomly.

[iron berry]

Revert Dagger Changes! Make dagger great again

[radiant arrow]

Make the event wheel tickets buyable for VR credits

[hexed walrus]

idc what other people say, I think the light should be nerfed. even if their weapons supposedly do less damage, they can still out-damage other players because they're impossible to hit. also, all the pros and hackers use lights, so it's always dreadful to see a game full of them. it just sucks. by the way, I'm someone who does frequently play light. and I STILL think it needs some nerfs. seriously, it's so annoying

[deft sky]

Yall cant make it easier to earn the rest of the wheel at the end of the event? I have a son and a family with no time to game like I used to and miss out on the outfit because this game decided to throw me the same stuff everytime for the past 5 days. wheel events needs some work

[celest ridge]

This game would be so sick with a replay system

[ionic rampart]

what hackers play is irrelevant to informing balancing decisions, and pros would only play light because they feel like doing something different or showing off. all the high level competitive play i've seen has had next to zero light players present.

lastly, not being able to out-damage them "because its impossible to hit them" is kinda just the outcome of facing a light player who is better at the game than you. you'd be better served suggesting changes to matchmaking than requesting nerfs to the least competitively viable class in the game

[merry totem]

Let's just assume, for the sake of argument, that TDM is made a permanent mode at some point. I suspect you're already thinking about it, but consider whether defensive specializations should be omitted in TDM (I'm mostly thinking of heal beam and mesh shield). I personally don't care, but I wonder if it undermines the mode to have it start relying on team comps and metas, especially if it starts to turn off new players who might discover TDM as a potential way into the game, but then not stick around to learn the other modes.

Oh, and regarding the wheel, which is better than it was, consider shrinking it by one already earned spot each day in the last week (or something) so that the odds don't get stupidly long. You have the data, but if it seems like the people who pay for the items are going to buy them early on, then keeping the final few scarce all the way to the end just seems like a recipe for squandering positive goodwill and earning negative goodwill. I see how people love grinding for them... until towards the end they don't. At least if the odds improved it wouldn't feel so futile.

[nova osprey]

Keeping those defensive gadgets does undermine certain aspects of the mode, but at the same time those aspects are greatly needed for practicing certain plays and metas and even just practicing new weapons, if anything, they should be limited but not removed

[marsh nexus]

please get rid of that one vault on bernal

[red knot]

TDM gave back the fun chaos from the closed beta times.
but Skyway Stadium is the worst map for this mode in my opinion, to many roof fights, not enough space for some parts of the map making people to get spawn camped really easily.

[brittle obsidian]

test out manual battlefield-style spawns for a world tour stop or something

[wooden atlas]

Please please please stop matching solos like me with premade teams…

[hexed walrus]

I know a lot of people say that light shouldn't be nerfed because it isn't actually good in competitive matches, but they're stomping on a ton of people in casual gamemodes. so I guess the game is only allowed to be fun for the players who spend day and night sweating on this game??? like, so many new players leave the game, and a lot of the time it's because of ratty little lights. the game isn't gonna grow as much if we can't keep players for long. disagree with me if you want, but the game shouldn't just be for the fat unemployed gamers. if that's really the case, there might as well only be competitive modes 🤷‍♂️...
seriously, less skilled players (especially new ones) should still have the right to at least have fun without some random emerald rank sweaty light main walking up and slapping the ice cream out of their hand, like almost every match.

[jovial locust]

WHY DO I ALWAYS GET TRASH FUCKING TEAMMATES AND THE OPPOSING TEAMS ARE ALL COORDINATED STACKS?! They go negative every fucking round, they don't go for the objective, and yet the enemy teams are all in the double digits with kills and capping cash boxes left and right. What the actual fuck, Embark.

[radiant arrow]

Stop respawning teams 100+ meters away from the cashout when there is less than a quarter left on the cashout clock. I would rather have close games with high tension near the end than securing the cashout and then wait it out because nobody could even come back in time to make a difference.

The game is awesome, it's just a little nitpick that I have (thx devs for making this game)

[regal light]

Nerf heavy to the ground

[onyx crystal]

If you want dagger and light nerfed you might need to learn how to shoot bullets tbh.

[slate vessel]

It really doesnt matter if you shoot them tho all it takes is for them to dash behind you can stab you before U can even react

Its not used because it takes skill to master it, if your constantly dying using it then cleary your using it wrong. Dagger is supposed to be a sneak attack rather then aggressive.
Light is already to most hated class in casual for a lot of players, people are nowhere near as skilled as ranked players.

[iron berry]

@slate vessel @hot cloud dagger is already the least used weapon on light, it wasn't viable in ranked, and not even in casual, all it takes is a tiny bit of aim and it becomes not that big of a problem, theres a ton of counters, now with the nerf, it makes it just about unusable, its genuinely one of if not the worst weapon in the game atm, and i hope that they revert the changes like they did sword once they realize that they completely gutted the weapon, learn to aim siren and you won't have an issue, its really not that strong, sword lights are way worse than dagger lights will ever be, and yet the changes were reverted, so ive got hope for the dagger to be returning to normal

the finals is a mix and match game, you can play things how you want, sniper is a long range weapon but it doesn't stop people from playing close range, dagger can be played stealth, or it can be played at a fast pace with dash, the argument that its supposed to be a sneak attack weapon doesn't hold much weight to it, even in casual it does NOT take a skilled player to win against a dagger, it takes someone with the slightest bit of ability to aim to beat a dagger player

also saying that something is hated amognst casual players is not something that helps with an argument, casual players are always going to hate something, someone is always going to be complaining about something, you aren't going to make all the casual players happy while simultaneously making competitive players happy, the dagger nerf was a horrible decision that completely guts the weapon. The very few players who play it now can't stand the change. theres so many more issues and dagger has never been one of them.

Things like m11, lh1 have dominated for forever. Stungun EVERYONE finds annoying yet hasn't been nerfed or reworked. The SH1900 is another thing that is way more annoying than dagger. dagger isn't the issue.

to the message below me, kyoto is given to me more than any other map in the game, no matter what gamemode i am far more likely to get kyoto than anything else which sucks because i hate kyoto.

[mossy karma]

Do you guys feel like Kyoto is given to you a bit more often than the other maps in ranked?

Or it's just my experience

[marble prawn]

give us the full 6 days left for ticket collection pls 😭 i still need 3 items

[woven wasp]

Probably need to create some sort of a plan around ranked. Minimum rank or something to reduce smurfs?

[worldly dew]

I can’t lie the fact I have to play 30 minutes to win 800rs but can lose 800 in 8 minutes makes no sense like please go back to season 1 I don’t get why everyone was so upset it was the best n made sense

[slender girder]

Add a hooded plague doctor skin and take my money

[half briar]

PowerShift plagued by snipers tuned for cashout, where no one actually uses it, so it's just a weapon that is oppressive and annoying in PowerShift.

[small shadow]

can server add upgraded version of fsr
i have nvidia gpu but taau is not stable amd fsr is stable \

[brittle obsidian]

Rework light pls its entire existence is noob stomping in casual and being a walking gateway in comp. It needs more impactful specializations that aren't solely for basic map traversal or getting cheap kills on unaware players. You keep nerfing the weapons while keeping the core flaws of the class that piss people off, so nobody is having fun.

[half briar]

They will never do this until there are only 100 concurrent players and they are all playing light. They are perfectly happy to see their casual player base dwindle.

[quartz cedar]

Separate keybinds for vault & jump.

Sensitivity slider settings for ALL scope zoom variations

This is so incredibly basic, and should have been added ages ago

[keen lily]

I don't mind playing against ruby players, even though most random teammates prefer to avoid them which leads to annoying 3rd parties on a single cashout the entire game - at least the RP reward/loss is fine then as those teams get the higher seeding. Still, not getting teammates at all and losing points for that is bullshit, same for getting teammates way below your rank which also happens a lot

[austere dew]

This game's balancing is going to make me quit. I cant stand it, heavies and mediums are infuriating to fight, light is competitively useless outside of pubs. H/M kits are overloaded with way too much easy to use game state simplifying cheese. Too much defensive clutter and instant win buttons between them making them required at higher tier's. In non high tier play extremely skilled light's pub stomp and in high tier ranked light is useless. Light thrives on your opponent being worse than you; since given the massive health pool difference you are required to make your opponent miss shots to win the fight. Light's best pieces of utility are incredibly frustrating to fight against like cloak and stun gun, and it's team utility doesn't bring enough to the table to make it fill any role besides "pub stomper". The game is an unbalanced mess with deeply rooted design issues that would require massive overhauls and reworks to the classes to address. As it stands the game's balancing is in this magical state where everything simultaneously feels infuriating to use yourself or to fight against. This game has such an amazing concept, and foundationally its so solid, but oh boy is this balancing pushing me away.

I want to like this game so badly, it's unique quirks are super cool, destruction is incredible, it's movement feels amazing, the gunplay is super tight and well refined, and mechanically it works so well. In a lot of ways it reminds of titanfall/apex with its fast and hectic fights with crisp movement mechanics. But man I am really struggling to get past the balancing here.

edit: anyone who wants to reply "get good" sure you can but this is what new players run into when they join and it makes this game very difficult to fall in love with for a long period of time.

[onyx crystal]

QC feels REALLY bad now compared to earlier season. The wave system on its own wasn't TOO bad when it was released, but the more recent changes have made it feel worse.

I would like to see either a shift from 30 seconds or whatever it is now, down to 17 - 24. The minimum should also either go up or down with this change, so there isn't situations where one team respawns 20 seconds before another after being wiped at the same time.

While I do like the chaotic feeling of quick cash, it also sometimes just feels unfair and seems more dependent on whatever hand the game decides to deal you.

[devout grotto]

please optimise all maps to feel like mexico on 120hz

[calm steeple]

ever since they changed the bamboo forest side spawns in powershift it's usually 80% probability a lose for that side, revert it or straight up delete the map from rotation and instead add one of the newer ones it's making me sick

[iron berry]

Revert dagger changes!

[crisp wolf]

Make hammer deal additional AOE damage!

[bold vine]

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
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Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
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No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[proper chasm]

can you please let us reconnect to casual games
game is so temperamental getting kicked out of a game with no way to connect because of a D3D crash is annoying

[rocky perch]

Blue Lair Lurker Hoodie

[candid fog]

So if its not ranked matching and not sbmm, does it just select random players? Is that what youre trying to say lol. You make it sound like a new player can just enter a lobby with an emerald player, clearly there is some close WT rank matching

[shrewd echo]

Duke Nuken never had any problems, besides people thinking it was Halo.

[twin helm]

sniper did not need a dmg buff what is wrong with you devs???

[shrewd sorrel]

This Wheel Spin thing has to go for future events. It's ridiculous how I roll the same 3 things out of like 30 roles. Now I HAVE to spend 1200 multibucks to get my last 3 items. So insane this is a concept. Taking away buy it with VRs really sucks too.

[heady wagon]

fix this

[lament depot]

yeah they made it even fucking worse

[long arrow]

+1 embark , we are not your wallet for force us to buy items

[frail iron]

same, just like the last wheel but even worse

[torpid sky]

soon it'll be 20 + the set for completing the wheel, embark cooked fr🔥

[thick cipher]

Why is every quick cash game have only the steam rollers, the kingfish and the shock & awe? What happened to the jet setters? The Tough shells? The big splash????

[hard shoal]

hi Embark and CNS, i want this

[frosty cedar]

While I understand mouse and keyboard is being worked on , I would appreciate to have an idea on how long it would take , or just how far devs are on it ,
Also , since keyboard allready is supported ... it would be GREATLY appreciated if console could get text chat implemented , it is pretty annoying to have to use external services to talk to people while playing the finals

[lilac coral]

We really need text chat on console

[long arrow]

I literally hit 3 fucking respins in a row. How are people supposed to get everything from this without buying the cosmetics?

You have to let us either get tickets a different way, or remove the wheel. Make it progression based. Or with challenges like every other event!

[cyan crane]

Is dagger backstab charge actually consistent? It feels as if it's never fully charged

[lament depot]

old dagger system was way better

[sonic sandal]

Im trying to play a ranked tournament and I am very lagy however when I play quick cash my game is fine does this happen with anyone else

[keen lily]

you are not supposed to get everything, it's designed for you to miss some stuff and buy it with money. also devs don't 'have to' let you get tickets in a different way, they don't have to do anything brother

[honest siren]

oh, i forget to mention that for a year i play the game and when i play heavy, my watch clips through my arm. like the watch has never actually not clipped through the wrist on the heavy body.

please fix watches clipping throught the wrist on heavy.

[dusty igloo]

Not being guaranteed everything on the wheel sucks, its basically an outfit on the store where every player has a random price given by rng from getting it for free all the way to 20 euro or something

[bold silo]

Yea light is at least 30% weaker then M and H, it sits there like that at least 1 year. DEVs are cluless

[upper chasm]

I couldn't agree more👍

[long arrow]

No cares man its not apex legend , i get a duplicate after get 1 item they are just cringe & dnt listen their community. they will just loose players if they count only to wallets players

[frail iron]

my game began crashing frequently like its season 3 again pls fix (mostly on the match load end)

[shrewd sorrel]

The earning a ticket after 4 repeats means nothing when it just makes me get another repeat.

[cyan crane]

Can you finally remove the focus zoom in without ads on bow? It does nothing but throw one's aim off

[fossil mist]

Pretty patient, but this wheel is out of control. 4 items left and for 8 days in a row, 3 to 4 spins a day ... Nothing but dups . Today I got the same exact dup 3 times in a row.

[noble path]

June mentioning me using a sledgehammer as usual was very cute please keep adding lines like that 😂

[dusty igloo]

DOTW seems to have a bug where incredibly boring Seoul bridge clips keep going through, please fix this

[nocturne magnet]

So true pookie

[pine kernel]

I have seen people submit clips that are significantly more varied and impressive, yet they don't show up on the dotw shorts. Maybe there is a backlog?

[cloud jungle]

Trying to turn this goofy fun game into a half-assed tactical shooter will be its downfall

They need to embrace tech and maybe nerf them if they're actually busted, but just make them part of the game.

Like Goo planes did not need to be removed at all. It was intuitive and fun.

[pseudo leaf]

There is a bug in TD that makes the enemy permanently detected. I don't know what causes it.

[upper chasm]

The Valentine's Day event was utterly disappointing. I completed every task and used all my tickets for the draws, but ended up getting nothing for several

days in a row. In the end, I had to spend over 1000 MB to make up for the prizes, even though I had fully participated every single day! I'm sure there are others

who fared even worse than I did. 😫

[somber stag]

PLEASE MAKE THE WHELL NOT RNG JUST MAKE IT SO IF YOU GET AN ITEM THE LEAST EXPENSIVE ITEM TAKES ITS PLACE ITS STUPID I DONT WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT IS MEANT TO BE FREE.

[wide void]

"yeah you may have logged into our game every day for two consecutive weeks and done every daily challenge we gave you, but nah we want you to pay for that one singular item you wanted from The Wheel instead of just getting it for free like john.johnson2014 did"

[frail iron]

if anyone interested the actual chance of this is 0,123794%

[lavish shard]

Nerf light

[upper chasm]

The winning rate this time was much lower than the last event, and in the final few days, almost every draw was a blank. So, what's the point of logging in

every day? If this kind of lottery event doesn't have a guaranteed minimum prize, it's practically no different from a scam. Next time, you might as well just ask

me to top up directly.😰 😰 😰

[boreal mirage]

never do the wheel of scum event again pls

[grim anvil]

hey ive played every day of event did all contracts for tickets and still need 3 things. ive gotten only ticket parts for 5 days

[lilac coral]

Crazy how everyone expects to win everything n a free play spin it’s entitlement on another level

[slender girder]

I think 4/4 dupes should guaratee a new item on the wheel if you make more events like this. And then you get to choose 1 of 3 full skins as the final reward, and make the other two skins purchasable when the wheel is completed, if people want them as well.

Feels like the most win/win scenario for me. The wheel was fun for me and made the game extra fun to play as well. But I also don't want some people to feel disappointed of how it's designed.

[wide void]

Crazy how you're being a bootlicker for a literally unfair system that's intentionally designed to abuse human psychology. And it's real cute you say "crazy how we expect to win everything" when it is, in fact, possible to get everything free just by luck.

We don't care if items are limited-time. We don't care if they cost money. When you give them out at random, that's an issue. When you waste people's time by making them earn tickets just to ultimately get nothing (and FYI, time is not free), that's an issue.

[night bone]

Game crashed, Lost points, took a suspension, nice 🤙🏼

[pastel cypress]

Ranked as solo queue is unplayable

[wintry trout]

it's wild how many people don't get this
when everyone has a different opportunity to get rewards for the same amount of effort, in an intentional effort to take advantage of fomo, it's simply fucked up
embark used to have some manner of integrity, but it's clear that their dwindling numbers due to pure, unmitigated incompetence, have pissed off their investors and forced them to sell out

[pulsar willow]

no, they indeed deserve this buff

[grand temple]

nerf cloak and dagger.

[fickle linden]

Let's move on, no need to throw names around

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[lilac coral]

I think you have a good point on saying that if you get 4 dupes then you should get to choose one free item and when get another 4. Dupes then you just get a free spin

[sterile canopy]

goo planes, intuitive? The fact that they could fly was intuitive enough, but that they would randomly be propelled forwards by gooing yourself while standing on them was not at all. And that's probably far more intuitive than any of the other meaningful tech in this game that I've seen

[terse ginkgo]

To many quitters in ranked no fun to play

[upper citrus]

Goo planes were directly linked to a server crash. Rewriting tons of physics code to remove the crash but keep goo ships is simply not worth the dev time.

Also no, tech filled games turn into sweat fests (apex) and are horrible for new players to get into. This game has plenty of wacky moments every match and is a great casual experience already

[tall cradle]

I said this before, the wheel sucks. I hate these kind of mechanics in general. And with this event you took one step forward with repeats giving "partial" tickets and two steps back, because now people are just getting 4 dupes in a row. I realize the whole idea is for it to be very improbable that you get the whole set free, but this is definitely worse than before. Reverse the change, let us have some items for VRs even at the cost of removing the "partial" tickets.

[soft spear]

The wheel is a scam 3 days and one item. Come on stop being greedy, already putting out stuff in the store every week. One would assume that would be enough.

Come to think of it I haven’t seen a single player with the prize outfit at all. Where as for halloween most had it.

[spark shard]

Correct, and it has been discussed extensively in this channel.

The ranked mode in solo queue has been broken since season 2, and there is no sign that it will be fixed.

I believe one of the main reasons is that there aren't enough players to create a good user experience for those in solo queue. On the other hand, those who play in teams and are diamonds or rubies must also be bored because they are being matched with random players who just installed the game and jump into ranked and frustrated good solo players in the same team.

[near ice]

I NEEEEEED THE CNS BITTERSWEET VALENTINE'S DAY OST ON MUSIC STREAMING SERVICES!!! AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[errant rune]

I think we'd save more years of life if we didn't spin the wheel ((( I suggest Embark if they really care about us and respect us to give out 2-3 more days ticket contracts, maybe we'll still be lucky in the end... Who supports me and thinks the same??? /

[pure urchin]

19/20 wheel. All tickets collected. Everyday login and not getting full skin? Cringe. Look at marvel rivals event behavior

[dull trench]

they are trying to force you to pay up with multibuck (real money) so they can ignore the cheating problem even more. Litelary 50% of the playerbase in ranked mode in platinum or higher are cheaters yet they do jack shit to them.

Guess they really need the 9 bucks to pay for their subpar servers that lag the whole match every 30s.

[silver raptor]

I have 19/20 and got 4 duplicates today like are you serious embark

[night bone]

Finally someone understands this atrocious system

[upper citrus]

Finals players when they get 19 free cosmetics and might have to pay 5 bucks for 1 more cosmetic + an entire outfit (still optional)

[vivid axle]

the wheel just does nothing but piss of your playerbase, people who play every single day should be guaranteed to get everything

[ebon thicket]

The outfit for completing is lame anyway

[feral adder]

Ofc u get 4 dupes, u have a 1 in 20 chance of getting the last one 😂😂

[slim wyvern]

Just had 2 bugs/glitches in a row: In a team of 2 with a friend, queue for World Tour and get put in Team Deathmatch. Play the game out and finish, queue for World Tour again, I get put into a match, she does not and the party is split up. I disconnect, reinvite her, and click reconnect, and it still wouldn't pull her into the game I was matchmade into despite the team being 2/3 and missing a 3rd player. Also now I have a 10min matchmaking penalty. :/

[gray solar]

We desperately need an operation health update. It's gotten so bad i can't even tell what's someone being really lucky, really good, cheating, or just the game breaking. You can enter a TDM and just get a bug that reveals you to the enemy team permanently. Dieing doesn't fix it, changing classes doesn't fix it, going to the next round doesn't fix it, and there's 0 way to tell it's happening to you. You just start having players knowing where you are at all times. Are you being hunted because of wallhacks? Someone who knows the spawns crazy good so they know how to spawncamp you? Or did the game just break. Or you see someone stealing your cashout, you empty an entire mag into them. Oops, turns out that wall you were shooting them through only broke on your screen but not server side so you're shooting at a wall like an idiot. Enemy team only sees that you can somehow see them through walls. Same shit, do they report you for walling? Nope, game just broke. Like I love new weapons and maps, but this game just gets buggier and buggier and we need a fix.

[ripe escarp]

This wheel is just fucking terrible man

[cloud jungle]

Goo planes were not linked a server crash what are you smoking lmao

[sturdy hemlock]

Anyone else always gets queued with people who disconnects mid-game or after round 1 on Ranked tournament? I can't rank up because I'm always being teamed up with an AFK. Happened consistently on Ranked mode only.

[long arrow]

Embark are destroying the game that s stupid

[upper citrus]

The same physics interaction that kept goo planes working was also used for a server crash. The devs were made aware of the server crash the week prior and it was removed, also removing goo planes.

They didn’t put this in patch notes likely because they didn’t want people to go and actively search for more server crash methods

[past wasp]

yeah, the whole wheel thing has made me just play less

was gonna buy some of the valentine cosmetics but decided against it if this is how their gonna pressure players into spending money from now on

[autumn oyster]

Solo players / High ranked problem:
The game in Ranked/WT is super fun, but only when playing in a squad. Solo gameplay is extremely frustrating. Imagine playing solo and constantly facing premade squads with high Diamond and Ruby players who have an MMR 20k higher than your team... Over the last few seasons, I’ve never had a Diamond player on my team while playing solo, yet I face them in 50% of my matches.

The current system just favors full Diamond squads, allowing them to find matches quickly and easily farm ranked points by stomping solo/duo players.

The game needs more care for solo players. They aren’t restricted to playing only when their friends are available so they might spend ever more time in the game if they have fun.

Solution:

1. Add an option to play against the same squad size (or at least allow 1+2 matchups / full squads only)
2. Please make tournaments consist of only two rounds if the average team rating is 40k+. This will make high-ranked matches more competitive and fair while providing a fun experience for every Platinum player that is being punched to death by much higher ranked players in the current system

[lament sable]

How are people complaining about the prize wheel? Its free stuff! You dont have to buy anything if u dont want to

[hard shoal]

hi CNS don't fix this😂
hi Embark fix this plz🥺

[visual spruce]

yup.. devs should ignore complains from those who are complaining about spin wheel. they are little kids that’s y they can’t even understand what they r talking about

[gleaming summit]

i can say it everyday you can balance weapons it will changes nothing, then the basic matchmaking is dogshit

[fringe hatch]

Day 399 of asking that mines should be visibile in thermal vision like all barrels in white, same thing with heavy shield invisible when turning thermal view.

[alpine turret]

bring back the white shirt from open beta

[wide summit]

BAN THE TASER

[fleet socket]

Embark make the Valentine's store items stay till the wheel event is over so I can buy the loot

[modern wedge]

casual gamemode to replace ta:
a destruction centred gamemode to make the most of the unique destruction physics of the finals. the maps would have to be specifically designed for this mode (or just take little grids of the map at a round). 5v5, whatever team has the most destruction points wins. wed need fair (but fun) kit balances, because obviously it would be heavy only meta lol. if its possible, maybe give different classes different weapons for fun lol imagine light with c4

server suggestions:
-separate feedback chanels into two; one for long, high quality suggestions for things like new content, and one for short one sentance suggestions for balancing per say
-threads in both of feedback channels to declutter arguments

[uneven dagger]

The wheel is awesome 👏

[tulip steppe]

Embark for the love of F please bring back melee canceling. Model is so bad right now.

[merry grove]

Rivals demands 20$ for one captain America skin, I don’t wanna hear anything about how they have better prices because they don’t

[pure urchin]

dude. EVENT behavior, not skins or prices

[silver meteor]

Anyone know why my audio sounds 3d compared to other games

[potent wagon]

the FInals does the same thing... WTF? all the premium "cash" skins are around $20 and even the ones you get with credits often have $15-$20 "value". The rivals has $5 battlepass that allows you to chose the rewards you want AND they dont expire. they are 10X more consumer friendly

@oak kernel which is why im so irate about the fucking RNG wheel

[oak kernel]

The prices in this game have been getting more expensive with time as well

[sinful zealot]

i keep crashing

[tacit whale]

Add a skip and previous button to the music player

[upper citrus]

It’s almost like they charge more for skins so they can give away more for events.

[uneven dagger]

People who genuinely think the wheel event is gambling probably hunt down management at county fairs

[minor notch]

Wheel is bad gambling but gatchas in Japan is literal peak

[mortal notch]

add skibbidi toliet and master cheif from fortnites

[paper oak]

damn the model feels shit, anyway buff the revolver

[glass fjord]

FUCK THE WHEEL (4 duplicates in a row again today, just like yesterday).

how to solve it - remove having a final outfit you get for collecting them all. then it actually feels like you're getting free stuff. make the outfit unlockable through contracts like you used to do with events.

[wide summit]

buff the model

[young hamlet]

Or just bring back contracts for outfits instead of using a wheel

[fresh locust]

can we get some individual song selection in the jukebox? I dislike a large amount of the Season 3 ost and the b-sides but there are a couple bangers in there I'd love to hear in the lobby/loading screens again

[potent wagon]

this is by far my favorite game, but if i ever see this fucking wheel again, I will quit and never come back. I am done with shitty, greedy, corrupt, bullshit. I don't care if you try to make it "more fair" the principle of the thing is what matters. I have over 1000 hrs in siege and quit because of their fucknig lootboxes. As it stands, I'm just never going to give you my money again and I'm only giving you one last chance. next time is literally strike 3.

[radiant reef]

The wheel system at its base creates discontent amongst people, there are better ways to do events that would not make people sad/upset and still generate profits.

[oak kernel]

Literally just let us pick an item every 4 duplicates, problem solved. Now getting a duplicate is exciting and fun.

[limpid dome]

Agreed.. the wheel is bad design and forces a negative experience on majority of players

[dreamy gull]

Fuck this wheel system. I get you guys tried to fix it. But it didn’t work. The only item I wanted is literally the only thing I need left and all I’m getting is dupes. If I’m forced to pay $8 for last item to complete im going to be so annoyed at this game. $8 for an item that can be free, if you’re lucky, is ridiculous

[short widget]

nerf sh1900 and stungun in powershift

[dull trench]

maybe noone would be angry if they actually fixed thier god damned game. Cheaters in Ranked are rampend, 50% of plat+ lobbies players are cheaters, their servers lag the whole match every 30s which looses you fights of not your own fault, Wt is starting to bleed cheaters in too, balance patches are wilde with nerf that have no reason of existing (looking at you wench) with bearly even touching the most broken weapons, game crashes are rampant and without reason, Japan map stil has giant performance problems and can randomly get your fps down to 20 or lower, Game can randomly give you a diferent loadout when it feels like it in WT. They are making literal gambling events that are intentionally predatory so you will give them money. I would also bet my left nut that they probably lowered the rate for getting the last item just because maybe some people will fall for this shitty tactic.

Don't think a game with such technical problems deserves to have a event that is forcing people to pay up just to finish the cosmetic roulette.

[full inlet]

the wheel can wheel itself to the pits of hell

[quartz dirge]

50% of plat+ lobbies players are cheaters,

heres where i know that your argument is bad

[upper citrus]

I’ve personally not seen a cheater this entire season but yeah servers need to be improved.

Also the wheel isn’t gambling

[proper chasm]

Found out that turning on DLSS (the only way to make the game even remotely playable) crashes the game

[latent niche]

Please add name filters because I should not have to see CUM_TASTE_TESTER#0826 in my game. No one should.

[minor notch]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-wazowski-mike-pog-pog-gif-154717314566640477

[crystal tide]

Dont add name filters

[hearty bough]

I’ve been reading your posts on the wheel and honestly I think this is a mental issue / a “you” problem. It’s literally free skins that you can unlock just by putting in some game time. I’ve got kids so I only play 1-2 ranked matches on any given day, I’ve got like 15/20 of the stuff on the wheel, lots of duplicates, but I honestly don’t really care because at the end of the day it’s just skins - which again are FREE.

Just play the game, if you get the skins you get the skins. If you don’t, who cares?

Are you really that attached to these valentines days skins that you need to come in here and rage every day?

Please reflect on this, maybe pick up meditation if you don’t already do that regularly

[junior crater]

The Spin the Wheel event is more frustrating than fun. I collected every ticket on every day and still ended up missing items at the end of the event. This game doesn't need a gambling feature like this.
Earning rewards through challenging contracts is more rewarding and fair to everyone.

[dusty igloo]

Has anyone elses performance been utter and complete fucking dogshit recently. Doing ranked, CONSTANT FUCKING STUTTERS AND FREEZES. Go 1080p ultra performance minimum upscaling. STILL FREEZES ALL THE TIME, NEVER BEFORE HAVE I HAD THIS ISSUE

[potent wagon]

I'm sick if feeling exploited by the entire gaming industry. Embark used to have fantastic events and great consumer friendly practices. its not a headspace issue. its an exploitation issue. and I'm fucking sick of it, so I am making myself heard loud and clear. and there are SIGNIFICANTLY more people who have been agreeing with me on this than pretty much any other topic. i understand its not TECHNICALLY gambling but that is not the point. the point is that it fucking sucks to feel exploited so they can get into my bank account. as a matter of fact, i actually hate most of the skins in the event, its purely the priciple of the matter that is making me so irate.

@urban plover FOMO is literally an exploitative sales practice

@wind meteor you're putting words in my mouth. STFU. nothing you've said refutes my point, you've just resorted to essentially name calling. the fact of the matter is FOMO is EXPLOITING your emotions to get you to spend money.

[urban plover]

Dawg literally nothing is exploiting you it is a free event you can earn shit or not earn shit the fact there's 20 free items in the first place is fucking wild it's called rng u either got it or you don't, better luck next time bud

[wind meteor]

imagine saying "I'm being assaulted and psychologically exploited by a virtual completely optional wheel" 😂😂 GROW UP

[merry loom]

Can we have CNS hack the wheel so getting a duplicate is impossible?

[sick crest]

Name filters, should be a thing 100%, they have a chat filter already so a name filter would be a copy and paste. BUT they should make it toggleable. I appreciate the hilarious names people come up with. its one of the best things about this game

[fresh locust]

MAKE THE SLEDGEHAMMER NOT ASS AGAIN IT FEELS LIKE IT DOESNT WORK LIKE HALF THE TIME NOW

[hard shoal]

That's right

[gritty owl]

Once again I'm asking for the ability to see how many 'people' i've blocked, I just wonder if it's already above 1k or not because every game there are at least 2 bots in my games that keep team killing or doing absolutely nothing. Ranked games especially

[bold vine]

-embarkid You can find your blocklist on the website. Do note that blocking does not prevent you from seeing them in your games, it just blocks communication (party invites, text chat, voice chat and friend requests)

[spiral light]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> EmbarkID

Click the header to go to the EmbarkID website. Here, you can enable Cross Progress between platforms, link your Twitch and check your account.

[proper chasm]

Can we please get options to turn off the noise the crowd in the stadium make and the auto exposure. Being deafened by crowd cheering while I'm listening for footsteps and blinded by the game turning up the exposure making it harder to see outside of windows or when looking somewhat at the sky is incredibly bad for a game that's trying to be a comp shooter.

Also the wheel is a shallow manipulative money grab that has driven the last 4 people on my friends list I could play with away from the game

[pearl cairn]

Y’all music is fire

[pastel spruce]

Wheel of love does not love me. This is screaming money grab. Finals do better.

[upper citrus]

Winch claw needs a full rework. Repeatedly nerfing its range just makes it feel bad while it stays poorly designed. Hook design has been iterated on for years and basically boils down to “is it telegraphed or avoidable?”

For example, the hook in marvel rivals requires a charge up. This is because rivals has so much stuff going on at once that a character with an instant hook would not be avoidable, so it must be telegraphed.

In overwatch, roadhogs hook comes out instantly. This is because it’s his only option from range. If a roadhog is staring at you from mid range, you know what he’s going to do. You don’t need it to be telegraphed because the lack of options makes it avoidable.

Winch claw is neither telegraphed nor avoidable. Heavy has plenty of other things he can use from hook range and will continue to get more as content is added. Winch claw also comes out instantly. Your solution so far to this has just been to nerf its range repeatedly, which makes the spec feel like ass to use while keeping it frustrating to be hit by.

Adding a spin up animation and buffing the range would keep winch claw fun to use while also making it telegraphed and avoidable for the enemy player. Ensuring skill is being considered on both ends of the interaction.

[spare topaz]

FOMO only works if you have no self control. Get over it. Don't open your wallet.

[cunning fossil]

Why can't I watch my t8? Is it a bug or is it an update?

[potent wagon]

I'm already not giving them my money. I'm bitching and moaning on behalf of everyone in the community. this is genuinely one of the best games out rn, but FOMO is a slippery slope and I want to beat this now before it gets to BLIZZARD levels of awful. if we want our games to be/remain consumer friendly we need to make our voices heard and make sure the companies know how annoying and awful these kinds of events feel.

[cloud jungle]

No, it was not. They were seperate issues.

[vestal condor]

More of a suggestion, but please make the guns more powerful. I understand balancing and everything, but most guns feel spongy and non-impactful at the moment.

Here is a list of how I think classes should work in my opinion (although I am open to conversation!)

• Light should be a risk class. High impact guns & movement but at the risk of guns obliterating you in 3-4 bullets.
• Medium obviously a mix between heavy and light. Guns obliterate lights but don't really go toe to toe with Heavy.
• Heavy with slow movement and slow fire rates, but let them catch you first and its GGs.

tl;dr - make ttk lower across the board (in exchange for movement speed or fire rate)
Could also work for a testing and/or hardcore gamemode

[bold moth]

Nerf double barrel to be a 1 shot + quick melee kill on lights
quick melee being required keeps it in line with other strong single target weapons

[sick crest]

And No two tap heavies. Its asinine

[terse ginkgo]

No ranked round without quiting mates wtf

[quartz dirge]

wow bro. you really think pulling from successful games with well thought out mechanics would benefit this game? you must be MAD! Winch is perfectly fine where it is RIGHT NOW, it doesnt need a single thing changed about it. I can NOT believe you said such preposterous things.

[narrow topaz]

Hei what's wrong with contracts today? I have a progress like 260/250 but it's completed and I didnt get one of three tickets:(

[rich brook]

-ask You might want to either contact support or write an eggmail

[spiral light]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> PLAYER SUPPORT

Reach our Support Team: Link

Please note you need to log in with your EmbarkID.

[languid lake]

buff cerb shotgun i need to burn alive more

[rich brook]

cause that ain't right

[upper citrus]

Confirmed otherwise but ok

@quartz dirge ikr…

[oak kernel]

Link the confirmation as well lol. Then no one has to argue

[pastel cypress]

Team play in Ranked is non existent while solo queue I feel there's no incentive to stick together so my teammates run away for meaningless fights and stupid plays

Gimme a health regen boost or something when near a teammate give my teammates a reason to stay close

[ionic saddle]

I love losing all my ranked matches cause for some reason Ruby players are playing against plats and golds

[sterile canopy]

huh? teamplay is pretty much the thing that wins games

[plush grotto]

The random noises you can’t lower like cash box and what not is incredibly annoying. Can’t even hear anything but that

[waxen thicket]

It still engages the dopamine receptors that activate when you’re gambling, so you’re right. This is honestly in part cos Nexon’s the parent company of Embark, and they’re notorious in the gaming industry for gambling practices like gacha. Fortunately they’re only relevant in Korean and Chinese regions, they are far more predatory than EA ever was.

[rare prawn]

damn I did every single day of the valentines roll event and still couldn't get the helmet

[potent wagon]

THANK YOU. someone who actually understands the issue and is not getting bogged down in "iTs NoT gAmBlIng" semantics. I'm trying to strike at the heart of the issue and speak up on behalf of the community. I use foul language to convey how foul it feels to engage with these systems.

@brittle obsidian I've already acknowledged that. again, you're getting into semantics. the issue is that its an exploitative sales practice.

[brittle obsidian]

its not gambling tho

[sudden spire]

There should be a "medieval mode" a la TF2 where each class can only use their melee weapons +the bow. It would be an arcade-y event mode for fun and could coincide with a medieval map and some knights/fantasy cosmetics

[austere dew]

100% agree. Perfect take on the ability 👌

[fathom hearth]

nerf lights. nothing but a roach class

↓ <@&1204757006510985216> LOL ↓

[quartz dirge]

lights still are the worst class in effectiveness

[junior igloo]

just remove the stun effect (let enemies being winched shoot after a short grace period upon being winched) and increase range

[smoky gust]

that would help a little, but you'd still just straight up die with a lot of weapons

i think a rework that adds inert counterplay is needed

[sick crest]

I hate it when people make the stupid a** argument of "It's free! Why complain?"

"FREE" Products are NOT completely Free. They are wanting/expecting something in return. Only gifts are completely free and that's why its rude to complain about gifts (and its the only scenario where this argument is not crap). This game on the other hand is monetized, they are trying to get you to purchase something. "FREE" products are usually predatory in nature: They lure you into subscriptions using trials, they addict you to crap games and skinner boxes to get you to buy, they convince you that the company is benevolent or charitable when in fact the "FREE" model for videogames has a SIGNIFICANTLY higher revenue compared to one time purchases.

The Finals is not one of those crap games, Its a masterpiece, so when I see a gambling roulette in game and the items are separately PURCHASABLE, a shady Fomo tactic, To encourage purchasing overpriced skins..... I GET ANGRY, AND SO SHOULD YOU!!!!

The game is not "FREE!" It's a PRODUCT, and complaint and criticism about a product is VALID!!!

[potent wagon]

this is much more well said than anything I put out, but you are completely correct. this kind of shit needs to stop and we need to make it happen as a community. corporations do not respond to the polite "no thanks" so we are forced to use brute force bullying to get our point across. (Sony and helldivers is a great example. they had to review bomb them to get ANY kind of change, and even then Sony was dragging their feet) the only way corpos will listen is if you hit them where it hurts. their bank account.

[turbid cave]

Buff stun gun

[blazing shuttle]

no

[topaz steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-weaving-lord-of-the-rings-gif-12671347

[ionic crescent]

the only way FOMO works is if you let it. Are you 10 years old that cannot control one self? All the items you got were in fact F R E E, just because they use a marketing tactic does not make it any less so. You can consider it shady and in some way I agree, but they literally aren't required to give you anything at all.

[abstract coyote]

Good game

[crystal tide]

flashes should not flash my team8s
reduce the effect duration for compensation

[stiff elm]

Tickets for the wheel event were supposed to be still available for a few hours? What’s this?

[autumn tinsel]

Does anyone know how to change the name of a temp voice channel, and what rank you have to be to use that command

[quick coyote]

The wheel is 100%FOMO and still very scummy I can't get the last thing idk how many tickets I used I've been playing everyday ohnestly I spent the last 400 multi bucks that I had left and still didn't complete it. not allowing us 2 use vr was weird asf, and shows y'all truly are no better than EA,

[terse ginkgo]

Biggest L Game in the History , Mates Quittung Ranked Games . -700 Points for playing 2vs3 biggest L

[dense tinsel]

1. I don’t think it’s good that the Valentine’s event doesn’t offer an opportunity to buy items with VR currency. In the Halloween event, this was a plus, giving VR some use, since after the season starts, they become completely stagnant and useless.
   In the Valentine’s roulette, if you don’t spend your multibucks, you miss out on the final reward.
   Bad decision.
   Buying the last four items sometimes costs almost as much as the entire pass, and it's just for junk like graffiti, emoticons, or card backgrounds.

2 .Leftover tickets should be giftable. I got everything, but I was the only one among many friends who managed to do so, and I have no way to give my extra tickets to those who need them.

These are two negative points about the event.

3. Something urgent needs to be done about VR. It’s an obsolete currency.

[crisp dock]

the wheel is really so dumb. me and my mate got all available tickets. he's got 11 over, which he can't spend and I'm still missing three (eventhough I got the maximum amount)

[thorn kelp]

I really want Embark to expand on the World Tour idea with the endless possibilities of potential modifiers or game-changing elements. I'm really hoping to see CNS bring in some juicy ideas for the two coming stops.

An idea for a World Tour stop that I came up with is to introduce locked loadouts in a team, that way teams running more than 1 of the same build type cannot use the same weapons/gadgets. It'll only be for a week too which allows the time for studying player's opinions.

[main knot]

Server Just killing this game. Thats It.

[uneven dagger]

Not for me

[rugged temple]

The solution isn't to nerf lights, its to rework them. Nerfing them just makes them completely unviable at any decent level play. Light specs rely on the enemy being bad, so a rework would not only make them better against good players, but also not as oppressive against bad ones.

@austere dew the main problem on light specs is dash and grapple, cloak is also an issue, but isnt entirely reliant on the enemy being bad. They all need reworks imo.

[knotty otter]

I’m sure this has been mentioned but team deathmatch could be fun if people didn’t leave mid match causing your team a huge disadvantage.

I had one game it was just me vs. 5 people was miserable. Embark please enforce leaving matches with temp wait queues or please remove the option for to leave match in general. Removing the option would at least force someone to go through the effort of force closing the game and launching it again, it should also put them right back into the same game!

They have this design in other free to play games like League Of Legends so I know the concept is an option.

[calm gazelle]

More game show events. The potential there is pretty untapped I think, and the ones we have feel kinda repetitive if you’ve played for long enough.

[quick coyote]

Exactly

[austere dew]

Yep can't agree enough. Light's current design makes it a pub stomping machine but useless in high tier. In game design that's a massive red flag that your character or class needs a rework. No amount of stat changes can bring it out of that state.

I think it needs better team utility in its gadgets and specializations. Remove cloak as a specialization since we have cloak bomb anyway. Replace it with something that brings more to the table for the team. I'm fine with the light class having grapple and dash, it's supposed to be a nimble and fast class after all.

In my mind light should function as a breacher. It should have limited defensive abilities but excell at enabling his team to push. Specializations and gadgets that temporarily allow for these team pushes would let light fill that role.

For example glitch grenade could be buffed to disable traps for a longer period or potentially even break them outright. This would allow your team to push into heavily fortified areas and take fights. There is already existing counter play in the APS turret which would counter the glitch grenade.

Sounds like a great role for light to fill imo. Give the class poor defensive options but great offensive options.

[dim forge]

THIS 👆

I love the idea of the winch claw, but the low range reduces it to a point and click win button at close range and useless at mid range. At the same time playing against it is extremely uninteresting since there is no preventative counterplay.

I feel like maybe adding a 1 sec glitch instead of the stun would also be a great change

[sick crest]

First off, your argument that "FOMO only works if you let it" is WRONG. FOMO isn’t some switch you can just turn off because you’re oh-so-enlightened. It’s a psychological phenomenon rooted in evolutionary biology and amplified by modern marketing tactics. FOMO is tied to emotional triggers like anxiety and social comparison n, things that aren’t just magically erased because you think you’re immune. Even if you’re aware of it, you’re still susceptible, just like with cognitive biases. So no, it’s not about being "10 years old" or lacking self-control. It’s about recognizing manipulative design and calling it out.

And your "they aren’t required to give you anything" nonsense, is another stupid a** statement i hate. Of COURSE THEY'RE NOT, but that doesn’t make the system any less shady (YOU IN SOME WAY AGREE). The fact that they’re using FOMO tactics, like making items separately purchasable while dangling them behind a roulette wheel, is scummy, period. It’s not about entitlement. it’s about holding companies accountable for exploitative practices.

The Finals is a fantastic game, which is exactly why I’m pissed they’re resorting to this garbage. If you’re okay with being manipulated, that’s on you, but PLEASE don’t act like everyone else is wrong for calling it out, because we "cant control ourselves," or "they aren’t required to give you anything."

got a little carried away... your argument is crap, and so is your condescending tone... Please engage with the topic with thought, instead of invalidating good points with crappy logic....

Imma go eat lunch now

[grave flare]

Some ideas for career progression and vrs:

• Add multibucks or vrs as a reward for career levels past 69
• Platinum, Diamond, and amethyst level badges/borders/backgrounds as career rewards
• The ability to exchange vrs for a small amount of multibucks
• The ability to change weekly and daily contracts by spending vrs
• The ability to get past event items and circuit rewards with vrs
• Purchasable xp boosts with vrs
• Make past event/twitch drop items purchasable with vrs
• Use vrs to purchase loot boxes which would give a random item shop cosmetic
• Purchase tickets with vrs

[viral verge]

If we do another item wheel PLEASE Embark make it 3 duplicates for one ticket or make it so the item cost is the same for each item. I've done every single daily challenge I could do and spun the wheel 47 times. I have 16 out of 20 items and I have counted my duplicates up to 31 (today included). I have spun the wheel as much as I could in the last 7 days and haven't gotten a single new item.

Making it 3 duplicates would have given me an extra chance but really I'm more upset that I now have to buy some of the most expensive items on the wheel simply because I got unlucky and didn't get them first. Instead of paying 150 or 250 mulitbucks I have to pay 500-800 PER ITEM now. I love the refunding tickets for duplicates but as a dedicated player who did ALL of the challenges I think I deserve a bit more than a F*uck you from the wheel.

[lean tree]

Fix MATCMAKING. Coming against full stack ruby, full stack diamond as a plat 33k player and then losingf -800 points is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im so fucking annoyed because every game is like this. i climb by fucking sweating and the moment i do not get a 1 seed. Im up against fucking rubies how does this even work????????

[velvet latch]

Amen, brother. Preach!
Some of these people out here are the types to get locked in a wage cage by Jeff Bezos and then thank him for being so kind that he let them have a job.

[inner oracle]

Would love for something like overwatch where we can view the past X scoreboards and maybe even watch them

[humble granite]

Be prepared to see me beating the same drum.

The medium and heavy classes need more variety to the way they can play similar to the light build. The light class gets the best gadget, best specials, and weapons. And if they are not objectively the best, they damn sure are the most diverse and allow for multiple ways to have fun playing it, META be damned.

And stop nerfing shit. Just make other stuff better.

[sick crest]

Kill cam replays would help players (and noobs especially) understand why they’re dying constantly. I would love to know where the pesky light came from, or how a stray grenade found me. It would help so much to have that clear feedback, not just to satisfy curiosity but to actually learn and improve. Imagine being able to see exactly where that sniper was perched or how that double pump cloak light managed to sneak up on you—it’s like getting a mini-lesson in real-time strategy. It adds a layer of transparency to the game, making deaths feel less frustrating and more like opportunities to grow. For competitive players, kill cams could be a game-changer, revealing patterns in enemy behavior or even exposing cheaters who might be using exploits. And let’s not forget the sheer entertainment value—watching your own demise in dramatic slow-motion, complete with cinematic angles, coins flying everywhere, just like from the trailers.

It would be like the game is saying, “Hey, here’s what went wrong, but look how cool it looked!” In a way, kill cams bridge the gap between frustration and fun, turning what could be a rage-inducing moment into a chance to laugh, learn, and come back stronger.

One of the best features in gaming is absent in The Finals. I know it would be incredibly difficult, but I would love to see it!

[remote burrow]

This is unplayable: cant play with these Audio issues. Server connection or idk — but it is hell

[zealous mural]

yeah wheel is a scam. another gacha bs ruining the game

[young hamlet]

Iirc they said they can't because kill cams have to render a separate instance which would put crazy stress on the servers
Fun fact, kill cams aren't recordings or anything, they're a separate instance of the game

[wind meteor]

for the hundredth time, kill cams, and any sort of replay are near impossible to be coded in The Finals, due to its destruction based nature

[gusty pine]

We need footstep noises to be louder and tdm to stay. Footsteps should be obvious, tdm is the only really fresh thing to get added in a long time and is the most fun I've had playing this game since season 3. Also the songs that play at the end of a game? Why are none of them on spotify except for season 1?

[humble prawn]

I also wish they would silence teammates footsteps or at least make it a setting, i know this is also my fault for mistaking the sounds but i have had many times where i hear my teammates running and thinking it was an enemy.

[candid badge]

can we just get rid of light class all together? replace it with something thats actually beneficial to the game instead of teleport, insta kill, run?

[split ermine]

lately getting a looot of game crashes. Almost every first match I wanna play crashes (TDM)

[wicked cape]

Why is there only exclusive fullscreen? The FPS are really bad, and the game runs sluggishly. At first, it ran very well, but after the updates, the game is really running poorly. I've been playing The Finals for a long time, and it has always worked well.

[lilac drift]

• Isolate outfits from loadouts for better customization
• Harsher leaving penalties for intentional leavers in WT/Ranked (start at 24h, to de-incentivise it)

Also @wicked cape borderless has been in the game since alpha lmao

[humble prawn]

I would still love to see (pardon me if I'm using the incorrect term for this) an In-Universe menu for this game, similar to that of PvZ Garden Warfare 2. A Backstage like area where you can roam and do as you please whilst still having all the core parts of the main menu. Sections with the shop and battlepass, sections for you career and sponsorship and most importantly in my opinion, a revamp for the training room. I HATE the current training room for a few reasons: One reason being The Dummies have no correlation/similarity other than Size and Health-Count to the player characters, they are slow and don't do damage nearly like what you find in game. I want to train my aim and awareness against players, not snails unaware of their surroundings. Yes im fully aware that their may be difficulty in designing what im about to say but hear me out for one moment. Customizable dummies, select pathing to where i want it, select weaponry/class/accuracy and other aspects for how i want to train and practice. For anyone saying this would be too hard to implement due to the destruction, the dummies; much like they already do, will just despawn and not work when there are obstructions. Another Reason i don't like the current state of the training room is that i cant go into the training room when i am loading into a match for ranked or any other gamemode. The In-Universe concept helps with that, i walk over to loading bay and begin connecting to a match, as it does that i can walk over to my training section (that has my Customized dummies for my own type of training) and Warm-Up as i wait to load in. Also, implementing variations for the training room to the themes of in-game maps would be amazing. Having different layouts available for the player and not only having one single house and forest to work with. This will all most likely never happen or even be considered by the community but if anything should be done, GIVE US A TRAINING ROOM RESET BUTTON, i don't want to have to leave and rejoin because i destroyed the house when i didn't want to while looking at possible combos or other tricks.

[delicate basin]

Can you make the announcers do a verbal countdown for events?

[pure horizon]

the wheel needs a pity system

[radiant blade]

defender should get more cash per kill. At least make dying by third parties worth it.

[fathom jetty]

the wheel is designed to give fomo and make money sadly, i think it’s working exactly how they want it

[pine solstice]

The game is sigma af. I love it. I’m like mentally unstable as a r6 player for the game

[west jackal]

This ranked needs to be fixed I’m always in teams that are my level or lower vs way better players that have triple the points

[fathom hearth]

nerf lights the game fell off hard

[sinful finch]

agreed

[unreal fossil]

I think 5v5 TDM is a great warm-up that should remain as a permanent mode (remove TA if need be... idc), and be extended to all maps.

Surprisingly (or not ?), Light doesn't dominate all that much in TDM. I guess it's not* that easy* for the average brain-dead Light player to stack up kills when enemies are also focused on kills and not on objectives to capture...

[brittle obsidian]

rework light specs

[worn hamlet]

please fix the constant freezing and stuttering and diconnecting

[lavish shard]

Tic tac tic tac tomorow stunnoob die 🥳🥳 in quick play light kill the game remove cloak 🙏

[pure horizon]

if gacha games designed around marketing practices like this have pity systems, i see no reason why the finals shouldn't as well

[gusty pine]

If I can hear the footsteps at all I usually assume that its a teammate because the audio is that bad

[dull trench]

easy answer, would not make them as much money as praying on the consumers right now

[devout grotto]

nerf M11 by 2 damage please. It will still be good it has 40 bullets and nerf its reload the way you buffed the cerberus'. People saying to buff the XM54 must think the m11 is balanced which if you play 1 game with it you will see it absolutely deletes people and even kills heavies really fast. The xm54 is the TTK all light weapons should aim for.

[austere dew]

dont nerf light, rework it. Its useless in ranked and great at pub stomping, thats the standard red flag that something in a competitive game needs a rework.

[craggy basin]

🐡

[slender pine]

just got booted from a tourney going to the finals "server not responding" error code TFGE0001. same with teammates. and if I quit, I get penalized lol. So I'm stuck

[tacit skiff]

Hello and since this has been going on it has been a very, very long time since there has been an M60 buff It would be cool because absolutely no one plays it She is currently too weak a little buff wouldn't be too much

[vestal yacht]

Hey, can we stop spawning teams nearly 200m away from the cashout during the last 30 seconds of a match?

[austere dew]

Rework class health values to be 175 on light , 250 on medium, and 325 on heavy. Or 200, 250, 300. Nudging the health values closer together like this would allow the weapons and abilities to be more easily balanced.

The massive health disparities between classes leads to most of the game's balancing issues. I like that the game has separate defined classes with differing HP values, but a difference of 100 is a bit too high imo.

Edit: yes this would mean that we would need widespread changes to weapon / ability values since this on its own would be a huge buff to light and a nerf to heavy while not touching medium at all. This would need to be a widespread power redistribution and rework on all classes to make it work, but in the long run this would lead to a much healthier framework for embark to balance around.

[oak kernel]

Bro what do you mean we have to wait for 10 minutes

[full inlet]

Didn't even try on the last day of the wheel. Too much disappointment.

[potent wagon]

yeah, the wheel fucking sucks and is nothing but an exploitative money grab.

[slender pine]

i wanna know what dev keeps buffing light sword cause that mfer does not play the finals

[pearl cairn]

Give your composer a raise🗣️🗣️🗣️

[upper citrus]

The wheel with the items that aren’t exclusive is allegedly designed to give fomo

[harsh panther]

Going to shit on the wheel again because embark clearly didn’t listen to the community the first time
We do not like this concept of limited time rewards that are unequally achievable to everybody, there is no reason some people should get everything for free and others may have to spend 20+ dollars because of how the system works, it is unlikely you even complete the wheel without having to spend money as well. I unlocked everything from the first wheel and still thought it was an incredibly moronic and cheap way to try and get money when you could instead just either release the bundle in the shop along with the other limited time stuff or make everything obtainable equally like every other event prior to the wheel system. The community should not have to express that they dislike fomo rewards (regardless of how some people try to play it off as embark just giving away free stuff) and I’m incredibly disappointed in how this company is starting to find dumb ways to make money

[lean tree]

Again a game where i am 4th seed against full stack ruby and diamonds????? im 32k... fix this shit seeding and matchmaking

@patent wind its crazy how many games i get put against ruby 56k or full stack 45k diamonds. Solo Q is feeling like a drought my teammates are not even willing to go other comps then light most of the time, sad this game introduced world tour, i feel like a lot of players who don't want to be dealing with this are just playing WT

[umbral swift]

Please bring back the charm from old Valentine’s, it’s so cute! 🥺 🙏

Also please make a charm or sticker or Goo Grenade skin, blanket Nama Tama is so adorable too! 🥺 🙏

Also please make a Nama Tama version of the Axolotl headgear, where it turns the player’s head into a Nama Tama!

Also please make a version of Dede’s mask where it’s on the face, not partially off on the side. Would love to use that cosmetic if so, since that would allow pairing it with hoods/hats/clothes/etc better as well.

[patent wind]

not a matchmaking problem. its a comp player base problem. embark should bring more ppl into the comp scene so that there are enough high elo ppl for top 500s to face. rn there are just not enough in comp since s3 ta

hopefully the upcoming major will help

[paper meadow]

I’ve had an idea for two weapons for a while, both based around hip fire. Let me know y’alls thoughts.

First idea is single barrel break action shotgun in the right hand, and a 9 shot 9mm revolver in the other. That means a quick close range shot of maybe 100 dmg at its absolute highest and then that secondary weapon for finishing off opponents. The revolver would have to be on the lower end of damage, and somewhat inaccurate since there’s no ads. Plus slower reload times. But the idea is a set built expressly for support, these would be great for a healer medium. Able to quickly chip in damage and finish off opponents in between healing or supporting the team. The sticking point I see here is the revolver, it’s gotta be balanced between good game feel and not just being a slow reloading V9S with a bonus shotgun.

And the OTHER idea I’ve got, is an m4a1s. Hear me out here, classic m4 with the carry handle sight and a suppressor, no ads just a zoom in like the KS-23, and nearly perfect hipfire accuracy. HERES THE KICKER THOUGH, high damage fall off, and a 25 round mag. So you have to be extremely careful with your shots and positioning, but if you get it down they’re gone and no one heard you. Does this mean it will feel terrible to use the first time you pick it up? Yes absolutely. Would it be extremely fun to master like the bow? Also yes.

[vale acorn]

Keep the wheel but make the prizes EXP boosts like Battlefield. VR points need a proper sink.

[quartz dirge]

no frick you let me keep it exclusive #FOMO4LIFE #NAMATAMA #VALENTINES #THEFINALS

[west jackal]

It would be cool to see light builds only modes, and the other individual builds as separate games modes

[jaunty wolf]

We should have a score subtraction for flashing our own teammates. It would show a frowny face in the text.

Teammates Flashbanged -10 😦

[raw rivet]

The sword needs to be nerfed heavily not BUFFED!!! Also the double barrel shotgun for light needs to deal less damage. Shak-50 needs to be dealt with aswell as Flamethrower. World Tour also needs to have SBMM because what is the point on trying to give us Multibucks when it isn’t achievable due to a full stack of back-to-back emeralds farming Bronzes and Silvers!!Finally to top it all off Kyoto needs to go. Just my opinions don’t get offended.

[tough anchor]

Add a style meter that directly rewards awesome plays with XP

[crystal storm]

Specializations

• Charge & Slam - reduce damage done at start of charge and ramp it up to full dmg over 1s
• Winch claw - Reduce the stun animation
• Heal beam - Heal from 40/s to 47/s
• Cloaking Device - Make player more visible while sprinting
• Dash - Add diagonal directions
• Grappling Hook - increase pull velocity

Gadgets

• Mines - increase arm time from 2.0s to 2.8s
• Grenades - Add player outline to grenades for visibility
• Jump pad - Lower cooldown from 40s to 30s
• Thermal vision - Make keybind toggle use instead of having to equip it first, fix bug where you can't see enemies unless there is a wall behind them.

Weapons

• R.357 - Increase damage drop-off range by 15m, increase reload speed by 0.3s
• Pike-556 - Give red-dot sight
• FAMAS - Increase damage per bullet from 23 to 24 (Only changes TTK vs Heavy - currently 5 burst is 345 dmg, this change would mean if you hit every bullet from every 5 burst you dont need 6 bursts to kill)
• FCAR - Decrease the recoil on third shot of spray, currently just really annoying to play
• SH1900 - Decrease total damage to 149 dmg per shot
• 93R - Increase fire rate
• Sword - Using dash cancels charge hold
• Dagger - Using dash cancels charge hold
• Sledgehammer - increase overhand swing time
• Melee weapons - add a short delay before you can quick melee after using normal attack so you cant instantly follow with quick attack. This makes most melee weapons able to basically one tap.

Gameplay

• The destruction is at a really bad point, every house just crumbles and falls apart. In < S3 you made holes in buildings to play around vision lines - now just half the building will be falling apart over the next minute and server not keeping up. Please revert to how it was at S3.

[tidal parrot]

Make a toggle so we can wear these on our face

[rigid trout]

The wheel is very very bad. I have for 4 days in a row gotten all ticket parts. That's a total of 16 spins in a row where I get no item. I have 17 out of 20. This is a terrible system and is purely impossible to get F2P.

[tropic snow]

yes the only thing sadder than people falling victim for it is that some are even supporting it, I dont know how this legal loophole of gambling is even allowed in eu but it's making Embark too much money not to bring it back again

[abstract rose]

Please hear our voices and get rid of the unfair cosmetic wheel system

[potent wagon]

we need to make a "fuck the wheel" chain so they know how much we hate it

[paper meadow]

Two suggestions, the first is about customization. Granulate some of the options in the style tab to allow more combinations. Like in “body paint” there’s pretty distinct face, torso and arms, just arms, and full body paints. These could all be in their own catagories allowing more creativity in character customization, for example greasy grips plus trickpaw tint would allow you to darken your eyes under a mask and your hand peaking out from your gloves. Or for another example in facewear there are partial face covers like the bad news bandana, block-it, and the mesa wrap. Why can’t any of those be used with any of the glasses? Or why can’t things like the ninja cowl or mask of malice be used in conjunction with any other face coverings? They’re both basically skin tight! Or further then that why are things like the mummy bandages and the balaclavas in headwear while the vaiiya procedure covers more than some of the bulkiest options in headwear! I just think some things could be separated out further, it’d allow for more creativity! I’ve got no issue with things overlapping categories as well, selecting something that spans multiple categories is bound to happen. But it already does! So why not allow more options.

And the second thought is simpler. Allow us to trade in 1000 VRs for 10 multibucks. That’d keep the drip slow but allow folks who have bought everything something to work towards. As a bonus it’d also be great for free players who are fine with the leveling rewards but just want to try a new hairstyle or a different color tank top.

[thorny lynx]

Wheel was awesome, game performance top tier, no bugs in game at all.

[jaunty wolf]

Make the wheel a wearable back cosmetic as a little novelty to remind players who chase you and probably give them emotional damage.

[sharp spire]

Bringing keyboard and mouse support to The Finals on PS5 would be beneficial for several reasons:

Improved Precision: Keyboard and mouse offer better precision and faster aiming compared to controllers, which can enhance the overall gameplay experience.

Level Playing Field: Since the game supports crossplay, adding keyboard and mouse support would help level the playing field between console and PC players.

Player Preference: Many players prefer using keyboard and mouse for first-person shooters due to familiarity and comfort.

Feedback: There has been significant player feedback requesting this feature, indicating a strong demand from the community.

It seems like Embark Studios is aware of this demand and has noted the feedback, but there's no official timeline for when it might be implemented. Hopefully, they'll add this support soon because I've got stick drift and my controller is not lasting any longer.

[gray solar]

I cannot for the fucking life of me understand the "Removed the ability to bypass manual action animations (such as using a bolt action or pump-action) by interrupting them" You took a bunch of guns that were already not great and proceeded to nerf them in the worst possible way of just making them feel like absolute shit to use. Like I cannot understand. Why? What was the thought process behind "Let's make our game feel worse to play in order to nerf mid to low tier weapons"? Like what the fuck? Every pump action and bolt action gun feels bad and for no reason. Like why?

[devout grotto]

please make a nama tama grenade that explodes putting sticky egg on the floor for 5 seconds slowing players in the goo. It also makes happy nama tama noise when it explodes.

[raw rivet]

Prefer to play with people on controller setting ?

[near hamlet]

"spin the wheel events" for the event skins are brutal. How do i get every possible ticket and still need to pay 1100 multibucks to finish the event? the ticket fragments were a decent touch compared to halloween. but a lil bad luck protection would feel a lot better.. Id rather complete challenges to get my skins then rely on the stupid wheel of bad RNG

[undone dagger]

im in the same situation bro and I don't even have the helmet. UGHHHH

[austere dew]

its only good against bad players, it has so many counter play options. If you play light take stun gun and just shoot the sword guy and you win the fight instantly. If you play medium run glitch mines and the sword guy is useless on them. If you play heavy charge and slam or winch claw hard counter the sword. Even without your abilities you have 350 hp, he needs to land 3 charged up lunges or 2 lunges and 2 melees to take you down. You have plenty of time to just shoot the sword guy as a heavy.

Its getting buffed because it and other melee weapons are inherently weak against skilled players. Use your counter options, use range to your advantage, and just shoot the sword guy he only has 150 hp.

The amount of mechanical effort a sword player needs to use to be remotely relevant is insane. Go watch a high tier sword guide and check out the amount of effort these guys put into making it a halfway decent weapon.

@harsh panther also just nailed it down below ^

@candid badge because the class is already not played in high tiers. Its exclusively a pub stomp class that relies on your opponent being worse than you. It needs a rework but everyone in this game is screaming for nerfs instead lol.
Response to ur comment: Yes thats exactly what im calling for. Everyone is just spewing "light op nerf it" that isnt the answer. If something in a game is op for pub stomping but not played in competitive, or if its very strong in comp but useless for casuals, these are signs that its design is fundamentally flawed and that it needs a rework.

[harsh panther]

Universal counter is playing goo grenades or to have better positioning, yes, the sword is a good melee, but it’s still a melee

[candid badge]

the devs dont play their own game they just go off of "charts & graphs" whatever thats meant to mean. they could care less about what their players think as long as their making money. people have been complaining about light for months but nobody at embark actually reads any complains or anything

@austere dew but dont you think embark would take notice to the complains and the fact its not played in ranked at all. if you connect the dots and use critical thinking you can clearly see that light is broken asf but nobody plays it in ranked because in ranked you actually need to cordinate with your team to win. light has 0 team value whatsoever because its entire purpose is to just teleport around and pick off kills which is USELESS in ranked. so to fix light they just need to fully rework it and give it something that provides team value

@austere dew understandably though everyones just fed up with every lobby being filled with a class that teleports around and insta kills everything. ive been playing on and off since season 1 and i can confidently say id rather be playing against nukes than the current state of the game. and just to fuel the fire everyone in this discord considers anything they disagree with a skill issue or ego issue. of course the mods dont care about anything you say as long as u have above 1300 messages though so whatever

[celest forum]

Mesh shield nerf was too extreme, I keep trying to use it but it's not manageable.
Once you drop the shield twice in one fight it's gone.
Edit: I honestly just feel like a giant target when I use it

[pale hawk]

if they would add something like an anticheat when they even add gambling and like to sell alot of skins would be great

[vital hollow]

[frank jungle]

Fucking nerf light (m11 in particular)

[fleet socket]

5.10 is tomorrow just wait

[young hamlet]

Nerf the oppressive grapple/m26 meta, it's killing this game
Also nerf motion detectors, they're too overpowered
Also buff sword lunge to 160, frags to 200, and bring back nukes

[rich saddle]

i assume you just lost to 3 L in the final ?😅

[leaden tangle]

Well, I'm not done with this game, this game done with My patience. I don't give a f*ck if light players are down or same of the 33/33/33 victory percent, this game is SO stupid if every match have 2 or 3 light players with the SH Shotgun, sword or M11.

I don't use any build especifically, I like to play with light, heavy and medium but this last updates Embark is doing everything wrong about weapons balance.

Why we need to get a powerfull meta?

Why not prioritize making the most broken weapons the hardest to master? Any casual player can master weapons like the Flamethrower, AKM, or V9S, but not every player can perfectly master the Dagger, MLG Grenade Launcher, or Dual Blades. When it comes to the competitive arena, I think there needs to be a balance between weapons and classes. Losing to a Dematerializer and Fcar user is not the same as losing to a Dash and Sword user. You know it's unfair when the most broken weapons are easy to master and therefore it's more common to see a lobby full of this.

[gilded hull]

is that the next balance change?

[merry geyser]

For God sakes PLEASE fix the sprint and NO AIM DOWN SIGHTS BUG!! PLEASE

[tulip basin]

We still doing wheel feedback?
Because the next week is going to consist of me playing 3 matches, feeling extremely unsatisfied and disappointed at the end of each one, then probably not playing for the rest of the day if the 4th match itself doesn't go well.

Seriously, this wheel is the ultimate buzzkill.
The sound design and visual are great for the build up as the wheel spins... but even if you "win" something, it doesn't feel like this big fancy reward.
If you lose, or get just an extra chunk of a ticket, it feels even worse.
There's all this build-up for NOTHING.

I go out of your way to deal 500 damage with gas, or something else I don't usually have in my inventory.
Get eliminated more than usual because I'm trying to hard focus this challenge and get it out of the way for this dang ticket.
Then I just get told to go sit on my thumb because god forbid I actually thought there was a CHANCE that the ticket I just put effort into getting was worth anything.

[lilac drift]

So funny story, today is the last day for ticket collection for some reason, because they wanted to give a week of having the cosmetics remaining purchasable to build fomo 😭

[quaint sphinx]

I am suppose to be playing in NA but it keeps putting me in China and Japan servers....Why?

[rich saddle]

Check if it's set specifically on NA. It might be on automatic mode

[charred marten]

To make ruby more appealing to players, the playercard or maybe even the gun skin should have the position that player achieved at the end of the season, instead of just saying “S4 Ruby” it could say “S5 439 Ruby” it would make the top leaderboard spots even more competitive as well as theres only one number 1 player card, instead of every ruby player getting the same exact card

[thick lion]

I have mine set to NA and it does the same crap. I'm keeping a running list of all the ips it connects to and the countries. Firewall rule time

[jolly island]

100% agree.

Especially on the "when you get a ticket piece with the ticket you pieced together, it feels even worse, all that build up for NOTHING" part.

IMO, recycle tickets should have been a separate type of ticket (IE, make them red or cyan or something to denote they're special), and make them a 100% certainty to land on something you don't already have.

[mighty vault]

19/20 🤦‍♂️

[next rock]

Cerberus is just the new model

[tulip basin]

That's crazy.
Well I already stopped playing after writing that message anyway lol

I guess I'll just have to look at this L for the rest of the week every time I return back to the menu now!
Yippie!!!

🙃

[stone hazel]

i love having events where it's literally impossible to get all the cosmetics if youre simply Unlucky
this is awesome i love grinding out the finals and i still cant get the end reward from the event
twice now that i havent been able to
i think i missed one single day all event and last time we did the rng wheel of unfortune i literally didnt miss one single day and had even worse luck
stop fucking doing the wheel it's not fun or rewarding it feels like shit even when you do win something because it doesnt feel like a proper reward that you worked for

[quick coyote]

Wait so no more ticket dailies??

[lilac drift]

if you have any right now - those are your last ones for the event

[jolly island]

Yeah, they're being insanely stingy with the odds and days to earn it rather than P2W it.

[wary escarp]

L embark for this wheel, I’m also stuck at 19/20 unless I want to fork over 650 credits

[uneven dagger]

all we need is that mgl rework we were promised

[torpid sky]

tomorrow's patch should extend the ticket earnings until the end of the event

[near hamlet]

and punish people who spent multibucks to finish their collection with the knowledge today was the last day for tickets? that would be a bummer for those people

[chrome basin]

Honestly removing the plug meta was the worst thing. Now everyone just does double last cashout so it dosnt matter anymore at all if you dominated the first 2/3rds of the game. Just get the last cashout started and sit back for all teams to fight 24/7

[long burrow]

why??

[austere dew]

So is ranked just designed for high tier players to stroke their egos? Why does it consistently pair you with people twice your rank, whats the point lol? I've literally never seen any other fps title do this ever for ranked.

[unborn flame]

How do u know

[torpid sky]

Who cares about them? imagine falling for FOMO lol 🤡

[potent wagon]

FUCK THE WHEEL

[winged basin]

any1 have a clip of the grav vortex?

[pliant whale]

join me in saying good riddance to the wheel

[dawn valve]

Remove the winch, dumb spec thats just skill less kills. Or nerf the fuck out of it

Also, remove the bounce pad cashout strat, absurd

[tepid summit]

It just got nerfed

[weary tusk]

can tdm please stay also i feel like most of the heavy weapons need a nerf a tank with weapons that can kill as fast as some light and medium weapons and dont need as much aim is crazy

[fiery harness]

honestly bounce pad cash out strat is a non issue

[untold hazel]

just break the bounce pad??

[raw blaze]

bruh I would rather just not have events like this than have this fucking wheel, because the dumb ass decision to make it so you won't be able to get tickets after a date but still pay real money is just plain stupid. On top of that, I would have gotten all of the rewards if it wasn't for all the the stupid fucking respins I had recieved throughout the whole event every single time I had done all my daily challenges. It's pretty much impossible to get the last reward through a wheel spin and it's clearly scummy. @stone hazel said it perfectly above.

[merry totem]

Previously I suggested shortening the odds as people accumulated items from "the wheel" so that spins in the last few days wouldn't feel so futile, but now I don't think that's enough to account for human psychology. Three suggestions for "next time" (not telling you anything you can't figure out on your own):

1. If the idea is to maintain engagement through the course of an event, simply roll out an additional item with one or more contracts associated with it each day. People will tune in just to see what it is, even if they don't have time to play much that day. Leave each item unlockable to the end of the event. You might use some discretion as to whether to mix in some more difficult challenges as the event goes on (though not in the last few days if you don't want the inevitable backlash). I mean there is a point where people might have to get over not being able to earn "everything," when part of what you want to balance is the "exclusivity" of some items. Just don't make the inability to earn everything depend on RNG.
2. Speaking of the "end of the event." Don't do the rug-pull thing where people think they have more days to accumulate tickets and spins, when they don't. Even if you get rid of the tickets and spins because a vast number of people want you to, the same logic would apply to an alternative approach such as the one proposed above. Just say the end is the end and then put the items into the store for a week or so (except perhaps for the one or two items meant to be difficult to obtain and more exclusive from the event - simply use labels like epic, legendary, etc., and people would likely understand the logic).
3. If you must do the wheel, consider just making the items something like a small number of multibucks. Then you can still get the thrill of, say, winning $100 one day and not feeling too bummed about getting $10 another day (cash works for any holiday). There's no "missing out." Then just put event-related items directly in the store.

[wary escarp]

Epic prank?

[tall spoke]

oh crap almost forgot DAY 29 OF ASKING FOR 5V5 CASHOUT VARIANT

[faint sundial]

As a heavy main, yall need to make a harsher damage falloff for the deagles. I shouldn't be able to one-two a light sniper halfway across the map in one burst

[copper elk]

why does it take so long to load into the practice range

[minor parcel]

IRC practice range is just a server with people in separate rooms

[ornate sage]

Save custom outfits, or more loadout slots please i really want to use the cosmetics I have.

[alpine falcon]

I would really like a Ping Priorities/Personalities System, something to customize how you ping when looking at objectives, better control over the sensitivity of pings locking to objective icons, and maybe some stuff to control the personality of your character's voice and lines, maybe tune for a more optimistic lines, or more serious military/coded lines.

[shell lotus]

I don’t know if this is happening to anyone else but my character keeps locking on ads and emptying my mag and if I’m tracking a certain way it’ll just spin me out for at least 3 seconds, I’m on pc and using a wolverine v3 controller and it has Hall effects so I know I don’t have stick drift, and this only happens in the finals, idk what the hell this bug is but it’s maddening, but if this is happening to someone else please say something because I feel crazy I play other games but it just doesn’t happen

[slender girder]

Agree. Cosmetics is how they earn money and keep the game alive, so they should do as much as they can with presets and giving players good easy ways and options to use the things they buy.

[west jackal]

Fr +1 Like 👍

[ornate sage]

Thanks man

[versed cloud]

Anticheat is dog shit. Have a nice night

[grave flare]

We need more game show events, give us a dragon

[thick sorrel]

Everybody who complains about the wheel, is distracting from the real issue with this game. Stop spam garbage - These skins are ugly anyway.

Less than 10k players after 1 year. Friends are asking me to join R6 Siege again. I'll lure them to The Finals of course, but in the end I will play what my friends play. Solo Q is hell in The Finals and R6 Siege X sounds interesting.

[plush fjord]

• Server lag
• Matchmaking
• Balance of weapons and classes
• Garbage anticheat
• Lack of original content/gamemodes (don't get me wrong, TDM was great and should be a permenant gamemode), we need something unique that can only be found in here.
• Discord and Subreddit Toxicity
• Lack of Attention to Powershift

I love this game, and it was a really unique thing, had so much potential with all that fun movement and destruction. But all this garbage going on lately has made me reconsider downloading the game again.
Like, why shouldn't I play other games now? Valorant just got a new agent. Rainbow Six Siege is getting a major overhaul (R6SiegeX). And even though they do have cheating and all, at least Im not suffering servers lag, matchmaking trash and poor balancing.

[keen lily]

to me the problem seems that there is a lot of high plat/low diamond players and then after that there is a tier of grinders who are high diamond/ruby, there is no middle ground because the points gain/loss is wrongly designed at mid diamond tier

[cosmic cloud]

Alright, CNS needs to hack The Finals so each round won on the next World Tour stop gives a ticket part for the event wheel. CNS has already defaced the event wheel, so why not go further with the CNS lore and give players at least some way to avoid FOMO?

[left jetty]

Embark please add minions outfit through a collaberation or something

[slender girder]

Come on, do sth about the servers. So often when I play opponents have twice the HP they should, and some games it's like I have anti-aim assist. Never seen that last part in any shooter game I've previously played.

Edit: Game after same thing. Can spam crit shots on mediums with Fcar and take like half their health. Logging out.

[fickle linden]

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[echo radish]

BUFF CL-40

[void timber]

KBAM support on console

[hoary roost]

i can only agree. first 4 days i was stuck on 6 rewards. got so many doubles if felt like got showed were sun dont shine. the wheel in my opinion is fine but the time and amount of tickets are not. aint balanced

[grim sedge]

all i got was 15/20. never missed a ticket

[woven hawk]

All I ever got from the wheel was free items and the CHOICE to buy more. Sure, there's luck and randomness involved but it's like a free lootbox. I don't think people ever complained about those.

Thank you for all the beautiful gifts

[half briar]

I just hope whoever came up with the wheel idea hits every single red light on all their commutes for the next year.

[fervent coral]

Allow forfeits because sometimes the team just dont fit and we dont wanna play anymore

[devout grotto]

MnK on console please

[sterile canopy]

it doesn't, that is impossible. That would mean the average person must have twice the rank of the average person :p

It will take all of the people who are matchmaking in the same ~2 minute window as you in your region and attempt to match them all up to form lobbies with teams that have the closest total RS as possible, how well it can do this depends on how many there are and the distribution of ranks among them

[hearty lodge]

Fix the dagger

[potent solar]

good job adding the detailed metrics / fps counter. can you add round trip latency (rtl) for our inputs? my frame time is 4ms but depending on the server the inputs are clunky. demat for example has a delay, and all single fire weapons.

it would be nice if it would auto report the server to you guys if the rtl is above a certain threshold, so we don't need to take screenshots.

[woven hawk]

PLEASE allow different player backgrounds based on contestant, maybe even badges? But at least bg's pls (unless it is intended that player cards be easily recognizable then I understand)

[sterile canopy]

agreed, though weapon firing is a clientside thing I'm quite sure - hence you don't get hitmarkers until a short period of time after you hit the target. You'd presumably get knowledge of both events at the same time if it needed server verification to fire in the first place.

[slate vessel]

Nerfs for weapons shouldnt be one giant nerf rather it should be smaller nerfs overtime until majority of the community is happy with the place its in same with buffs

[viral fern]

Game is in the worst state since season 1

[wind meteor]

what you talking about? This mode is centered on fast eliminations and it shows really well given that Lights are heaving sky-high kill counts, and Heavies, the lowest.

@tall spoke Then you can forget because, no one wants 5v5 cashout. This is just another Terminal Attack. It doesn't make any sense only having two teams when it's very hard to team-wipe 5 players. So, whoever plugs is almost guaranteed to keep it. Any other changes, that help a team-wipe occuring, would just make it TA.

[weary tusk]

still needs a nerf lmao

[mossy karma]

TA could have been good if they didn't turn into a Light-fest with stupid things like passive health regen cap, limited gadgets and dumb restrictions to use Heal Beam and defibs

[minor notch]

@wheat fractal speaking of questionable names

[bold vine]

Hey there,
please report those players InGame and feel free to send an EggMail with this screenshot so it can be forwarded to the security team. I have to remove the picture as per the server rules.

[gritty owl]

Alright then, new proposition. Increase the blocklist capacity to infinity and make so that blocking someone actually works and prevents you from seeing them ever again as teammate or opponent. I've been filtering people out since season 2 start and just found out that the max ppl you can have blocked is 50?!? I want to be able to remove those players from existence myself since reporting them doesn't seem to do much

[leaden stream]

I was a huge Frag Grenade fan, but I’m happy to see them more balanced. I think I have ~20% grenade kills

[flint badge]

Finally it’s easier to tell whether it was a headshot or not, but why not add a headshot icon to the killfeed too?

[uneven mountain]

here comes the riot

[half quarry]

I sense light mains flooding in very soon

[true plume]

3v3 best of 9 no respawns
120hz for Xbox
Better tick rate

[daring ravine]

Console still needs mouse and keyboard support this game is dominated by that input please let us console players use it. There are too many xim users in Xbox only lobbies

[lavish shard]

Bye bye stunnoob 🥳🥳

[wary cypress]

frag damage reduction? fine, 140 is great actually.
reduced ammo? L, bad change.
It's already the hardest grenade to use, takes 10 business days to explode.

[buoyant linden]

One of the best updates in a while.

Now in 5.11.0, remove stun gun permanently.

[vapid pine]

Hey Embark.

1. Stop using ChatGPT to write your patchnotes. It looks lame.
2. There was zero reasons to remove stun gun. We played against this shit for almost whole season. I don't care about stun gun, but this was of developing is stupid. Reminds me of Recon that you also promised to rework one day.
3. Just stop nerfing everything and hire 3rd party company that can balance your game before it's too late.

rant over.

[signal basin]

Update after patch 5.10 :
Congrats Embark, instead of a rework, you just remove one of the lastest teamplay move a stun can do, cancel a steal by removing the stun gun.
Light is the weakest class and the one who lost the most but yeah, let's nerf them more after a nonsense buff to the Cerberus or PIKE. No wonder why Rob they he will never play Light during a stream yesterday. They don't give a shit about Light class.
They will be still Light player and people complain about them for everything and nothing. But they will lose even more. How can you do that when we all now this class is already losing more than any others ?!

For the game

• Increase the netcode/tickrate/servers. Getting kill at 3m far from a hammer/sword or behind a wall / door / cover is not ACCEPTABLE. In this condition, playing Light it's like playing a H but with 150HP. Servers can't register your movements !
• Perma ban toxic players and cheaters
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Let us go in practice with friends please
• Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL
• Fix events appear in front of the scoreboard
• Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now
• Dash is trash with your netcode. Servers can't register a dash behind a cover and you will die anyway
• Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match
• Let us use our VR for XP weapons or other things (not from me but very interresting idea !)
• Remove the 5s leave. It didn't change anything

** For balance **

• The Sword buff was not necessary in 5.8
• The FAMAS nerf is useless in 5.8
• The CERBERUS buff was to strong in 5.8
• Nerf PIKE to 49 instead of 50 dmg. You know what you did in 5.8 with that.
• Buff Light survability or DPS. Light should be the DPS class but the game is always around Medium and Heavy class
• Nerf a bit Deagle damage or range
• Nerf Shak damage a bit
• Buff XP54 damage to 18
• No more dmg on hook. It's nonsense. If hook do damage, stun gun should do too ! They both stun you !
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls or other.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charged
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked
• Spawn are still trash. You can wipe a squad on vault and they will respawn on the Cashout waiting for killing you. But after get wipe by them, YOU SPAWN AT 100M and MORE
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safety !

Playing Light in your game is not fun at all. It's not balanced. Charge, RPG, Frag grenade, Cerberus, Magnum, everything got faster TTK than anyway weapons of Light. Except SH who need to be a 3m or less WITH 150HP class

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

[keen lily]

W update it seems, let's see how it plays

Additionally, our goal is to increase the readability of grenades in the future, which should help alleviate some of the frustration. When that update arrives, we’ll revisit these changes and make any necessary adjustments.
^ BUT PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT, UNLESS YOU LET US COOK THE GRENADES

[fluid raptor]

Frag nerf is overkill. Nerfing the damage a slight bit is fine, reducing it to 1 ammo isn't. You should just give every nade 2 charges as pyro and gas see basically no use outside of beginners gameplay.

Oh and fix spawns. Wiping a team while fighting over the vault, just for that team to spawn next to the cashout station, many times before you can even get there yourself is bullshit. And when you then lose that fight, u spawn 100+ meters away.

Also, revert xp54 back to 18 damage with a 30 mag instead of what we have now. Also give ak it's bullets back and nerf fcar recoil to balance out the difference in ttk. Fcar should be a constant stream of good damage, akm should have high damage per mag and famas a faster ttk but in bursts.

[wise jolt]

What happened to the practice range?
these are now all ally dummies, and u cannot shoot them

[frosty cedar]

Would be appreciated if console got an update for FSR as rn 120hz mode looks a bit blurry

[quick coyote]

you over-nerfed RPG and then nerfed frags to make it seem reasonable
i absolutely hate the stun gun, but just removing it with no rework???

[potent solar]

maybe someone can ask them with the reddit ama, but I'm pretty sure every input goes through the server, hence the sprint and shoot bug. I've just messed around a little bit in unreal but whatever it is there is a delay for playing animations and switching gadgets based on the server I get. Idk how they do it but I think in order to keep the map consistent they have to sync 'time' across all players, averaging it out over the players. idk maybe a latency compensation thing.

I just want it to feel like it does when you win a game of powershift and suddenly your movements feel 1:1 🙂

[devout patio]

I joined this server to complain. Slowly my entire generic load out has been nerfed. AK nerfed, defib nerfed, jump pad nerfed, heal beam nerfed, frag grenade nerfed its getting tiresome

[fiery terrace]

yo devs wanna know why I dropped the game after 1100 hours? coz u always nerf the fun

[keen tartan]

The defibrillator should be the replacement for stun gun

[sterile canopy]

if you only play with "good" stuff then yeah, expect it to be nerfed over time. Experience would be the opposite if you played many other loadouts
AK nerf was ages ago, though

[clear crown]

The grenade was overnerfed. It's seems like such a waste to use it now

[limpid rampart]

this is a bug fix lol?

waited 3 betas and 5 seasons for this one

[mellow shadow]

why frag nerf, damage sure but like one is so lame. plus like all classes get it and frag is a classic so it should be a good pick

[wind meteor]

so you would just block all the players that are better than you, until you become the top player in the pool of players that you curated, and would win all subsequent games?

@vapid pine "there was zero reasons"? are you even on this thread? we played against this shit for 5 seasons, not just one, but it still is annoying af and promoting grieving, not to mention how it chases new players away, especially when you're playing powershift against 4 lights stunning you for all sides.

@fluid raptor agree, longer cooldown would have been a way better option than reducing the ammo count. Frag grenades bounce around and take time to explode and were useful to reduce the health of APS turrets, now it will stand for longer. But I don't think giving 2 ammo for pyro and gas is better, because pyro sticks to were you throw it and keeps dealing damage, while the gas encompasses a large zone.

@limpid rampart yeah, been trying to climb on them since day 1

[mossy karma]

Still the best made in terms of dealing damage
Frag grenade spam was a problem

Embark, this is the best patch in a while 🔥
Also would like to thank you for removing and reworking stun gun so it wouldn't be a pain to play against as melee player

Will test your goo fix today as well
Thank you very much guys

[magic sonnet]

HUUUUUUUGE CHANGES
WE LOVE YOU EMBARK

[crystal tide]

Thank you for frag nerfs, d e s e r v e d

[quick coyote]

Other wise the updates peek ngl

[plush seal]

FIRE CHANGES, PLEASE KEEP COOKING

[potent compass]

Solid nade changes, bets on the taser never returning because it hits the great backburner in the sky like season 1s medium wall hack ability

[torpid quarry]

So funny how different sub groups of the games audience come out of the woodwork to complain and whine depending on the nature of each patch. Im an avid stun gun user and ive been expecting this for a long time

[weary pine]

Its ok if you forget about the stungun forever! 😄

[shadow turtle]

Why are they nerfing everything? In seasons 1 and 2, there used be so going on with fast kills; it was epic. But now, it's boring. Can't they just take Dota formula and buff everything, so everybody is happy and at the same time its balanced.

[thorny lynx]

Removing a core item of the game to make it something different is just bonkers. Countering a stun is extremely easy on controller and M&K (even for new players). I have never heard ONE single real argument for it to be different or EVER heard that it is for "crowd control". Just another baseless change to give a poor fps casual player a "hey play our game" push. Bad form. Honestly if anything, stun needed a buff

[short panther]

People keep crying after each decision the devs make
They are doing a perfectly good job tbh

[umbral swift]

1. Removing Stun Gun entirely while reworking it was surprising, didn't expect that.
2. Breach Charge change is an unexpected but a welcome W.
3. Frag Grenade change is a massive W, gadget was overpowered as hell, and nerfing stock/damage but buffing environmental damage is literally perfect.
4. Quick Melee animation fix is a major W, I'm personally a proponent of keeping interesting bugs and balancing around them, rather than removal.
5. Headshot elimination sound is a nice QoL.
6. Hands look a lot better now!
7. The bug fix for situations preventing item use is super welcomed, hope it works as intended (haven't tested yet), the bug was super frustrating to deal with.
8. Doors opening at lower sprint speeds is a nice QoL.
9. Cashouts being vaultable/climbable is so nice, it's something I've wanted for a long time personally.
10. Fixing the loadout change overwriting bug is super appreciated, thank you!
11. Player cards not rendering properly being fixed is a minor but definitely appreciated bit of bug fixing!

Overall: MASSIVE W PATCH, THANK YOU EMBARK

[quartz cedar]

Fix hand animations on certain guns
This must be the most sloppy looking hand / wrist position I have ever seen in a video game.

[robust charm]

just add a frag grenade indicator, u dont need to nerf it

[teal minnow]

Can't you read? It will come back later on reworked

[glacial salmon]

Welp, there goes any hope for me to ever face a heavy head on if i don't have dash. Glad they can just hit-scan their hook on me or charge in closer quarters, but god forbid I disable them

Ill just afk until season 6 i guess

[pale ice]

Just like the recon sense?

[tame cobalt]

I’m out, I ran away from the table. I can’t manage. I can’t. I’m all alone crying because fucking tazer is going away and I feel like I die.

[hexed grove]

Real shit, frags were spammed to all hell and at times impossible to avoid. I think this’ll be an interesting change to see inaction.

[woven hawk]

W Patch

[velvet peak]

I wish they decrease the time required to overheat lava luster because during gun fight I couldn't see the gun effect early

[inland hinge]

Stun gun removal 10/10, THE FREE RIDE ENDS HERE

[pearl kiln]

Does it look like this on other weapons beyond the AKM? Do you have any further examples? 🙏

[zinc siren]

anyone against stun gun rework is the problem with this game, I think stun gun should be a specialisation rather than a gadget

[modern spear]

This is the worst update ever. The only things you should remove are the flamethrower and grenade launchers, not the stun gun! Light players are already disadvantaged with their 150 HP. Sure, playing light is a choice, but you’re putting us at way too much of a disadvantage here.

[naive narwhal]

It would never be picked if its a spec, there's a reason all the light specs are for survivability

[echo lantern]

Consider having heavy’s take damage when destroying mines with flamethrowers.

[cedar rapids]

Embark, make the Bucaneer Pants black again, or add a black version of them pls 🙏

[keen lily]

@pearl kiln since this patch I suddenly hear voice lines, even though I have them off, also communication wheel randomly pops up when strafing left and ADSing

[bleak moss]

Embark why are we catering to casual players? Removing stun gun because all of these people who’ve barely played the game (or in many instances are complete garbage at the game) constantly complain about it is not healthy for the competitive longevity of this game and we all know it. Ranked is dead and it’s been dead since S3. And yall don’t seem to give a crap about it. How the hell are yall going to do competitive tournaments with cash prizes when ranked is dead?

[lean tree]

CAN I GET GOOD TEAMMATES?? doesn't matter if they are 25k or 39k always they stats are 2/6 with fucking 1.8k damage whole game.
I was at 37k points almost diamond and because of 4 games with bad teammates as 3rd seed? every game i have one teammate who gets 1 or 2 kills, just plays solo

[signal forge]

@pearl kiln can u pls bring frag back to how it used to be it's not playable now

[quick coyote]

Stun gun wasnt even fair for competitive it has no counter it prevents you from jumping opening doors using zips it's very broken, I could kill people while stunned np, but I can see why people want it gone completely

[blazing shuttle]

Yeah. You couldn’t even dodge it as well since it’s hitscan

[signal basin]

Update after patch 5.10 :
Congrats Embark, instead of a rework, you just remove one of the lastest teamplay move a stun can do, cancel a steal, by removing the stun gun.
Light is the weakest class and the one who lost the most but yeah, let's nerf them more after a nonsense buff to the Cerberus or PIKE. No wonder why Rob says he will never play Light during a stream yesterday. They don't give a shit about Light class.
They will be still Light player and people complain about them for everything and nothing. But they will lose even more. How can you do that when we all know this class is already losing more than any others ?!

For the game

• Increase the netcode/tickrate/servers. Getting kill at 3m far from a hammer/sword or behind a wall / door / cover is not ACCEPTABLE. In this condition, playing Light it's like playing a H but with 150HP. Servers can't register your movements !
• Perma ban toxic players and cheaters
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Let us go in practice with friends please
• Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL
• Fix events appear in front of the scoreboard
• Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now
• Dash is trash with your netcode. Servers can't register a dash behind a cover and you will die anyway
• Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match
• Let us use our VR for XP weapons or other things (not from me but very interresting idea !)
• Remove the 5s leave. It didn't change anything

** For balance **

• The Sword buff was not necessary in 5.8
• The FAMAS nerf is useless in 5.8
• The CERBERUS buff was to strong in 5.8
• Nerf PIKE to 49 instead of 50 dmg. You know what you did in 5.8 with that.
• Buff Light survability or DPS. Light should be the DPS class but the game is always around Medium and Heavy class
• Nerf a bit Deagle damage or range
• Nerf Shak damage a bit
• Buff XP54 damage to 18
• No more dmg on hook. It's nonsense. If hook do damage, stun gun should do too ! They both stun you !
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls or other.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charged
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked
• Spawn are still trash. You can wipe a squad on vault and they will respawn on the Cashout waiting for killing you. But after get wipe by them, YOU SPAWN AT 100M and MORE
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safety !

Playing Light in your game is not fun at all. It's not balanced. Charge, RPG, Frag grenade, Cerberus, Magnum, everything got faster TTK than anyway weapons of Light. Except SH who need to be a 3m or less WITH 150HP class

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

[hot delta]

W PATCH. THX, EMBARK!

[limpid venture]

I have a question for developers- can you do the concourse about designs of sponsor companies from community? I have a lot of ideas, and sure,that I'm not the only one.Can you arrange it?

[quick coyote]

i can read, they said they were going to rework it next patch, then just removed it and said "we'll do it later"

[hexed wind]

Fuck the stun gun. No skill when your target is a sitting duck

[somber patrol]

they said in patch 5.10 it will removed when it was 5.8
they never said "next patch"

[wind reef]

If stun is hitscan hook should too

[astral timber]

hook is hitscan isnt it

[tropic snow]

Very nice work on frag nerf

[clever hawk]

Because having a player base is more important than pleasing the 0.0001% of spongs that enjoy having their movement crippled in a fast paced arcade FPS

[dusky rose]

whats the point in removing the stun gun, just leave it in the game and rework it in the backround

[wise jolt]

it negitively affects player retention. so they indeed, should disable it

[wet marten]

if the whole point of the rework is because it isn’t fun to go against why would they keep it in the game

[ruby umbra]

They saying stun gun is overpowered? How? It don’t make any sense

[night gyro]

most of ts are complete L
but I get it its a personal feed back

[limpid rampart]

for future reference you can right click a message in here, click "copy message link" and put it in yours like so:
#👂┇game-feedback message
#👂┇game-feedback message

just saying this because im interested in what you were responding to

[pure arrow]

So, frags got a huge nerf while being compared to the RPG? A gadget everyone can have VS a gadget only one class has? There was a patch note a while back about how the RPG was meant to be a lead off weapon and not a finisher. Is the frag also a lead off weapon? I’m confusion. At this rate we’ll be running around with nerf bullets and marshmallow gadgets. 😔

[hearty lodge]

I main light, and tbh I ain’t gonna miss stun

[potent solar]

can you allow zooming in on characters via the scroll wheel (in main menu) no matter how its bound to in-game controls? then put on-screen text indicating you can scroll to zoom in (to see face, eyes etc during customization)

[torpid quarry]

I cant join my freind's party. It says i have an outdated game client 😦

[tired fable]

Frag grenade nerf is orgasmic and tears of SH1900 mains who can't use it without stungun are so moisturizing and delicious

[wind meteor]

half the people here are saying the stun gun is not for survivability, the other half are assuring that they need it because they have 150HP only... I don't blame Embark at all.

@bleak moss Embark is always introducing changes to cater for the casual decent players and other changes target the competitive players. Stop playing the victim role on every corner.

@signal basin stop, the drama. it's getting reworked. no one's gonna die till then.

@limpid rampart #👂┇game-feedback message thank you for the tip 👍 appreciate it

[teal minnow]

Lol cry about recon it was a WH and they said it MIGHT come back reworked but tbh we don't need no wallhacks in a fps game

[quiet citrus]

WHAT IS THIS NEW JUMP SOUND @pearl kiln ITS ASSSSSSSSSSS

[weary dove]

lol everyone who's complaining about the stun gun being removed, if you really relied on it that much that you NEED it to be effective or outplay H and M, youre not good at playing light. maybe this is an opportunity to learn the role of a light instead (coming from a light main who doesnt use it)

[pliant lion]

You still have glitch grenades that prevent the use of abilities or equipment. The amount of light mains overrelying on the stun gun to basically get a free kill is idiotic. The stun gun is and always was a cheap way to lock someone in place and be able to kill them without them being able to do much about it. Light is still a very powerful class if you know how to play it, possibly even the easiest class to make kills with right now.

@weary dove Exactly! Whenever I play the game nowadays I play mostly Light and last time I've used the stun gun was in Season 1. The stun gun is absolutely unnecessary and completely breaks the flow of the game if you're constantly being hit by it.

[bold vine]

-feedback Please do not Embarkers with your feedback, thanks!

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[keen lily]

they fucked up something with the sound, I hear voiceovers even with voice slider at 0

[woven hawk]

Wow thank you very much for the quick melee animation improvements.

10-20k elims with the M26 alone, melee was a huge chunk of my playstyle and fun with the gun, so the QM changes hurt my heart a lot and I dropped the weapon Picked it back up for TDM but was afraid to elbow, afraid of my instincts..

First couple shots in PR felt nice and I can't wait to attempt shotpunch combos again

[bronze pumice]

Please add an option to disable the new gamepad inventory layout while using the Equipment Wheel, Modifier Button Equipping or Directional Equipping presets. It looks way worse than the regular horizontal layout :/

[paper oak]

I would sell for any revolver buff, doesn't have to be damage.
At least something to do with faster ttk thanks.

[jaunty wolf]

Tbh I liked the old layout as well. Kinda off putting. Plus I am not sure how to inspect anymore as it was double tap up on the d pad.

[fathom aurora]

cool, you're reworking the "crowd control" skill button give it the recon senses rework. Another nerf to gadjets, nerfs nerfs nerfs.. while most guns on the game are complete trash and no one uses them

[pastel tapir]

DLSS 4 When for 30 series ?

[naive narwhal]

Faster reloads probably

[umbral swift]

Patch 5.10.0 is literally massive fucking Ws across the board

[scarlet sedge]

Frag is better than the rpg? With the rpg i can aim and im sure it explodes on impact. With the frag, i have to pray someone is stupid enough to go near it or is blind enough to not move when i threw it at them. Who the hell came up with the patch notes for the frag??? Did he just go to the target range and experimented on the fking dummies before deciding this shit? Try giving all the classes RPGs and see what gets picked 9 times out of 10. U're freaking limiting everything and sucking the fun out of this game. Now all of the damage wielding 'nades suck, good job.

[regal ivy]

I don't think anyone picked frags over RPG due to it being faster and more consistent to hit

[supple nebula]

I'M NO LONGER PISSED OFF
HOLY SHIT THANK YOU
IM LITERALLY ABOUT TO C-
Ultra massive Ws across this entire patch, this is a major step up to 5.8.0's absolutely terrible changes
I'm not sure entirely removing the stun while you guys are working on it is a good idea even though I despise the stun but still, good fckn patch notes god damn

[digital shoal]

I can't believed they called it!
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1cmngl1/finals_season_5_leaked_after_all_the_nerfs/

[signal basin]

Update after patch 5.10 :
Congrats Embark, instead of a rework, you just remove one of the lastest teamplay move a stun can do, cancel a steal, by removing the stun gun.
Light is the weakest class and the one who lost the most but yeah, let's nerf them more after a nonsense buff to the Cerberus or PIKE and nerf more and more Light.
They will be still Light player and people complain about them for everything and nothing. But they will lose even more.
No wonder why Rob says he will never play Light during a stream yesterday. They don't give a shit about Light class.

For the game

• Increase the netcode/tickrate/servers. Getting kill at 3m far from a hammer/sword or behind a wall / door / cover is not ACCEPTABLE. In this condition, playing Light it's like playing a H but with 150HP. Servers can't register your movements !
• Perma ban toxic players and cheaters
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Let us go in practice with friends please
• Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL
• Fix events appear in front of the scoreboard
• Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now
• Dash is trash with your netcode. Servers can't register a dash behind a cover and you will die anyway
• Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match
• Let us use our VR for XP weapons or other things (not from me but very interresting idea !)
• Remove the 5s leave. It didn't change anything

** For balance **

• The Sword buff was not necessary in 5.8
• The FAMAS nerf is useless in 5.8
• The CERBERUS buff was to strong in 5.8
• Nerf PIKE to 49 instead of 50 dmg. You know what you did in 5.8 with that.
• Buff Light survability or DPS. Light should be the DPS class but the game is always around Medium and Heavy class
• Nerf a bit Deagle damage or range
• Nerf Shak damage a bit
• Buff XP54 damage to 18
• No more dmg on hook. It's nonsense. If hook do damage, stun gun should do too ! They both stun you !
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls or other.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charged
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked
• Spawn are still trash. You can wipe a squad on vault and they will respawn on the Cashout waiting for killing you. But after get wipe by them, YOU SPAWN AT 100M and MORE
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safety !

Playing Light in your game is not fun at all. It's not balanced. Charge, RPG, Frag grenade, Cerberus, Magnum, everything got faster TTK than anyway weapons of Light. Except SH who need to be a 3m or less WITH 150HP class

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

[dense willow]

Give the Light a grenade launcher

[slender girder]

Good update!

[cedar cave]

i have seen in here an interesting balancing for the stun gun before, either charging it up before firing or making it stay up for the duration of the tase. Or maybe it could work similarly to the lockbolt or glitch mine.

tho massive W to embark for taking back the taser, i personally dont mind it (and dont use it) but i have had numerous teammates ragequit because of it

[tropic snow]

fix steam contacts showing up as if theyre in-game even when theyre offline for 17+ hours, this has been broken for many months now

[granite schooner]

Hahaha eat shit stun gun goobers

We can put our individual hate aside for each class to all agree that stun gun deletion was a great move.

I feel less sad about spending $$ to finish the wheel today, thanks Embark!

[sweet bolt]

WHERE IS MY TICKET DAILY QUESTS

[weary dock]

I turned off the charter volume, when he trough GOO nade or shield for exmpl. IT STILL SCREEM louder than my whole game, how i can fix that?

[lapis pelican]

YES THE NEW LAYOUT IS TRASH

[meager sentinel]

THE NEW UI (LOADOUT) IS ABSOLUTELY DIABOLICAL BUT THE HEADSHOT KILL SOUND IS SO ORGASMIC

[wispy ivy]

give APS turret to heavy and increase its range, health and size, the APS is practically useless outside of powershift so i think it needs a buff but i also think medium is way too good at countering everything atm so it should be moved to heavy (it fits the defensive playstyle of heavy better anyway)

[echo radish]

BUFF CL-40

[quartz dirge]

VR grind is abysmal you have to buff the rate or bring back beginner circuits - changes NEED to be made. Its easily the worst part about the new player experience

[digital yoke]

BIG W EMBARK. SO MUCH GOOD THINGS

Removing the stun gun was the best decision in a while. Now light players who abused stun won't have such an easy way to eliminate an opponent that frustrated absolutely everyone and they will really have to work hard to win the fight.

About HEs: two grenades was too much and now one thing really feels like a fair bit.

And personally for me and all pump-action users I am very happy that animation manipulation is improving. It is now more enjoyable to play with my favorite weapon KS-23. Hopefully in the future it will only get better.

[half pawn]

I feel like the frag got too nerfed, it was fine where it was imo

[hollow cloak]

getting flashbacks to recon vision

[crystal tide]

Fuck QM changes, they single handedly killed model and sr84

[silent fog]

Why does my character moan with every jump now... Let me turn it off ASAP, it's annoying.

[lilac coral]

When can we get Text chat and pfp on console

[twilit ice]

I have an idea for the stun gun rework.

Have the stun ark between enemy's to add to the crowd control and eliminate body blocking

Keep the interruption of activities, stealing a cash out, reviving, caring a cash box, ex

Remove all slow and aim disabilities

Add a 15% damage increase to all effected enemy's

This would make the stun gun a crowd control weapon while being a good team tool.

[torpid scarab]

maybe not the 15% damage increase

[wary hedge]

reducing frag damage is okay, but why reduce its ammo...just give the other nades 2 ammo too and buff rpg if it feels frag outperform rpg

[signal basin]

"Now light players who abused stun won't have such an easy way to eliminate an opponent" Says the Heavy with RPG, Hook, Charge and get a KS buff . ..
How hypocrite is this ?

Remember this day as the day where The Finals dies.

[steady breach]

I am very happy to see shoot jab winch shoot jab back for ks23. This has made ks23 a million times more enjoyable to use and I'm back to using it.

However, the feel of the gun is still nowhere near before update 5.8. I am willing to accept that this will not change at this point. I love The Finals and I don't want to quit it over my favourite gun being not as fun to use.

There is still one change that can be made to make it feel far better, which is to have the second jab after firing cancel the 'caulking' animation. There are a lot of situations where players have no choice but to jab twice or more, and I think it's unfair for the shotguns to only be stuck jabbing forever or caulk their gun, whereas ARs or other weapons do not have this issue. This will massively improve the feel of the weapon, especially for model which needs two shots and two jabs to kill.

Another change is to give weapons like the model a window to jab cancel the caulk animation. It is frustrating to hear the caulk and see the shell fly out, but doesn't count because you jabbed. Please give the weapons an early window to jab cancel so it feels 'right', rather than having to wait for the entire animation to finish.

(I would still very much prefer to go back to before update 5.8. I understand that the model and the sniper rifle can feel unfair to fight against because of how good the jab combo was, but they really were never that strong, especially ks23. The jab cancel made these weapons feel absolutely amazing to use. Please, I still wish for it to be reverted back to before 5.8)

[plush fjord]

Ngl its the hp distribution thats the biggest problem of all. 150 hp difference in classes is too much. I feel like they should make it 200, 250, 300 for light, med, and heavy respectively

Then see how everything changes. Im pretty sure there wont be any need in dps buff to lights then, cuz the main problem is that they die way too fast.

And on the contrary to what you said, Embark doesnt always focus on med and heavy. Theyve been buffing lights a lot, its just this season somehow. Just remember s3.

And then, you can't see light has horrible dps and its always med or heavy. Yeah, they have akimbo and sa1216 and pike and all, but lights have pretty good shredders too, like lh1 and m11.

Deagle imo just needs a bit of more damage falloff, hence a bit less range. And shak is already having the disadvantage of having such a small magazine. it shouldnt get nerfed damage bcz then you wont be able to even one-clip a med.

Again, m11, lh1 and v9s are good powerful guns. ill agree that 150hp class is too less, lets make it 200hp, but again you'll need to balance everythign according to that.

[dry abyss]

@pearl kiln Clubs needs notifications for messages and invites and we should be able to respond to those msgs. There's no way to tell anything is going on in clubs (messages or invites) unless you're IN clubs looking at everything. But if I'm doing something in another menu, I'll never know anyone sent a msg asking something, or that there's an join invite unless I'm actually looking in Clubs.

Also, we should be able to at least go into the practice range, even if we're in a party. Sometimes your friends will need to step away and it's annoying to be like ok, I'ma leave the team and go into the practice range while wait, when you come back just send me another invite. Oh wait, I can't get invites while in practice range. So you'll need to somehow msg me to let me know you're back (hint hint we should also be able to get invites while in practice range). Why? Why not just let us, even if in a party, load up shooting range while we wait and then when we get a match it pulls us out

another thing, I know you guys said eventually you're gonna fix the practice range. But All the lights in the practice range that are holding guns, they're holding M11's, WHY are they shooting like they're V9S's though? makes no sense.

and why can't we reset the building in the Practice range? we should be able to reset the building back to fully built. I shouldn't have to leave the practice range and then go back into it. Especially cuz the practice range takes FOREVER to load anyways, it's like it's loading a game match!

[lavish shard]

Quikplay is just light cloak m11/db do something please

[regal ivy]

Just bring back cash out

[fallow idol]

Why the frag nerf ... nobody asked for that.....

[final compass]

The controls are lagging on PlayStation 5. Directional wheel, there’s a delay now, same way the trying to communicate crosshairs

[thick sorrel]

They removed Stun Gun but forgot Winch Clown... Claw?

[mint plover]

agree

[jolly salmon]

hello embark peeps and players! I wanted to offer my two cents on some stuff that I feel needs to be improved/fixed.

1. I use the mouse with my left hand so I'm restricted to using the buttons around the arrow keys for abilities and such. The equipment wheel would solve the awkwardness of trying to select the correct gadget, but as of last update (I haven't checked the game but there was no mention of it in the patch notes) the equipment wheel doesn't work when using a mouse and keyboard.

2. I find that using gadgets in the finals very slow and awkward compared to overwatch which I have been playing for over 5 years now. The finals is a fast paced game and every millisecond matters, so it would be nice if we got the option to throw or deploy gadgets at the click of a button instead of having to scroll/select them and then press left click for the action to trigger. for example, if thermal vision was just a click away, it would make going in and out of it super smooth, and we wouldnt have to unequip our weapons only equip them again a second later. Similarly, using gateway would be great if you could throw it and immediately teleport to the spot it was thrown at, while an entrance spawns at your exit location (kinda like sombra's current translocator in OW), instead of having to throw an entrance gateway as well. Currently it's very slow and it eliminates the possibility of it being used as an escape route or a way to create distance between you and enemies. I would love it if we could equip and immediately throw gadgets by simply pressing their keybind, or hold the button down so we can aim for overhand throws. Letting go of the button would throw the gadget and equip the weapon again automatically.

[acoustic gust]

Every balance change is only to make the light stronger, Embark is a joke

[weary dock]

Why my character still scream when i use gadgets while my FCKING character sounds turned off??

[leaden shell]

ok embark im in wt rn fighting against triple sword and they are winnign every cashout cause nobody can do anything vs 3 swords can something be done about this

[granite agate]

Shoutout to stun gun rot in hell

[whole trench]

sword is so much fun

[rich blade]

They removed stun gun? Tf you talking about, that was their strongest gadget…

[silent fog]

Give me the option to turn off these annoying voice lines and moaning when jumping right now please. You do a good update and ruin it with this annoying unnecessary stuff...

[broken rover]

I know that the wheel is random. But at least give us 5 remaining days to spin the wheel. It was 4 back to back days that i received only duplicates

Also give us the 5 wheel tickets a day instead of 3

Or

Keep the 3 tickets a day but make that if we receive 1 duplicate than we have to get 1 or 2 more duplicates for another ticket

[wraith pendant]

Embark keeps killing their own game. Stun gun rework before a sword nerf is so dumb

[brittle obsidian]

Finals players will really complain about anything huh

[placid elm]

Skill issue

[fiery jay]

I swear this chat is full of 12 year olds

[faint spoke]

daily challemges didnt give any spin tickets. It says specifically in te event rules that tickets available though dailies EACH DAY. My trust is gone and my day is ruined 🤷

[empty venture]

Lol I see the lights are out in force crying their free kill crutch is gone

[slender girder]

That would be a crazy buff for lights, who many already complain about being OP.

[foggy wave]

for the new update 5.10

I was super hyped that finally the hands got an update, but i got disappointed at the looks of the female hands, its too masculine and almost look like toes instead of hand fingers,
I always wanted the nails to be 3D but come on!!! not this cheap 3D, at least make them better on the client side, and give the female their proper looking hands, it was great before except the nails wasn't 3D,
can u please now make one more push for this and give us some real good looking hands, its all I see in a first person shooter and I appreciate the details
and maybe in the future separate nail paints from body paints, or make up overall
would appreciate and love the game more if this feedback is considered, thank u ❤️

[wide summit]

sorry as a light main and someome who has to fight lights in the game the stun gun is not a needed tool. All it does it net easy kills for ppl who do not know how to fight.

[misty obsidian]

i have an idea for the stun gun rework. why dont they make the stun gun work by holding the trigger. if you release the trigger the stun effect ends. so you cant stun to secure kill ( to get some time to heal for example ). therefore you have to be with a teammate to kill the stunned player. and this will make light class help and do more support to the team.
this rework idea will keep the stunning to prevent a steal even if you just click and don't hold the trigger. and they can make it while you are holding the trigger you still have some movement, you can slide and joggle a little bit ( the same movement when you hold the defib)

[olive crown]

I barely used stun gun because it's possible to counter it regardless, unless if it was the sword+stun player

@faint saddle You don't need barricade to counter the stun. I am able to take the kill before they can.

[faint saddle]

Stun gun is a death sentence to any melee player, dont come with "just use barricade" its still bs
same with goo grenade for med and light its not an arguement that stun gun is bs for melee

[civic fractal]

More like a suggestion: You have so many players based in South East Asia and Middle East that rely on middle eastern players. Please Add ME servers

[lavish shard]

Nerf cloak/db
Nerf cloak/m11

[dull trench]

If you hate the "Wheel of greed" just like me, please make your voice be heard and ask why they made it in the reddit AMA.

[small shadow]

My idea on update
Stun gun : i dont think it need rework according to me server
When u get stun and u open scope and try to fire the zoom become so shaky server can remove that o
Or decrease the time of being stun currently i think it is 4 sex server can do it 3 sec ( less than current value)

Frag : i think embark did good in order to change ammo but in my opinion the damage should be 150 so it can kill light
Or server can do 80 damage and 2 ammo maybe 3

Breach charge : to be honest i am in emerald in wt and diamond in rank i never see a single guy using breach charge embark can make it effective by increasing damage ( 80-90) and decreasing ammo to 2 so it can kill light and make heavy half and medium 30%

Idea : can embark do smth where asia player can play with another server people because yesterday i was in que for like 25-30min 2 time still no match in ranked

My personal fav : i have gtz 1050ti and i get 50-60 fps in taau 60% and 70 in amd fsr performance
Can embark add some optimazation

[jolly salmon]

3. I feel like it would make sense for ovetime to trigger if a steal is being attempted during the final seconds of a quick cash match. Otherwise, it's practically a guaranteed win/defeat if the cashout timer is less than the time it takes to commit a successful steal. I don't understand why this wasn't the case from the get go but it would definitely make those last moments of a match more impactful.

[steady breach]

I am very happy to see shoot jab winch shoot jab back for ks23. This has made ks23 a million times more enjoyable to use and I'm back to using it.

However, the feel of the gun is still nowhere near before update 5.8. I am willing to accept that this will not change at this point. I love The Finals and I don't want to quit it over my favourite gun being not as fun to use.

There is still one change that can be made to make it feel far better, which is to have the second jab after firing cancel the 'caulking' animation. There are a lot of situations where players have no choice but to jab twice or more, and I think it's unfair for the shotguns to only be stuck jabbing forever or caulk their gun, whereas ARs or other weapons do not have this issue. This will massively improve the feel of the weapon, especially for model which needs two shots and two jabs to kill.

Another change is to give weapons like the model a window to jab cancel the caulk animation. It is frustrating to hear the caulk and see the shell fly out, but doesn't count because you jabbed. Please give the weapons an early window to jab cancel so it feels 'right', rather than having to wait for the entire animation to finish.

(I would still very much prefer to go back to before update 5.8. I understand that the model and the sniper rifle can feel unfair to fight against because of how good the jab combo was, but they really were never that strong, especially ks23. The jab cancel made these weapons feel absolutely amazing to use. Please, I still wish for it to be reverted back to before 5.8)

[severe linden]

I’m all for a stun gun rework; if you can only get kills by literally disabling people then gitgud

That being said this season ends in 29 days, what’s the point in removing it now? Seems a bit late

[gritty grotto]

so they added FSR 3 but didnt add FSR 3.1 FRAME GEN? bruh!

wait they said theyre working on frame gen? dang I didnt know

imma read the patch notes rq

[sterile canopy]

that is correct

they said they are still working on it, so I do not really know why you would say that

[smoky gust]

i like the idea of vaulting/nerfing an item to minimize problems, while waiting in anticipation of a rework

having something be removed does suck a little bit
but by removing 1 item from light, every single melee weapon (alongside some other close range weapons) should feel miles better to use
in my opinion thats a good trade to make
i think this option should be considered more often

[storm tide]

how about bring balance changes from s1 to wt and leave current ones in ranked

[terse belfry]

what are they doing with the voice of my ingame person? its SO LOUD, i cant make it lower, i hear his voice much louder than everything in the game... how to fix it?

[paper oak]

hello and buff the revolver.

[potent wagon]

Thank God they finally removed the stun. R6s tried 100 variations of stun gadgets and they ALL got nerfed, reworked, it removed because they're horrible to play against. This has been needed since day 1.

[thorn kelp]

W patch notes, W dev team, W game

[sullen marsh]

Was it ever explained why the Wheel of Love event lasts longer than you can get tickets for it?
What’s the point in having the wheel if you can’t play it? At the very least you should be able to spend VR to buy tickets.

[wraith pendant]

Stun gun wasnt just about kills. Stun gun worked best when it was used to delay cash out steals and get away when low on health. As a top 500 light main i can tell you if you cant counter a stun gun you are bad at the game

[thick sorrel]

So hypocritical! Winch Claw stuns and pulls you over - much better..

[tired ibex]

NEW HEADSHOT SOUND IS WAY TOO LOUD AND ANNOYING, no one asked for this tbh i would rather it gone

[wraith igloo]

Whatever change you made Asia servers are unplayable for out of region players

[native perch]

Wdym removed the stun?

[river hearth]

Its gone while they rework it

[steep anchor]

remove the cashout interruption contract pls, it forces players to play in a very weird way as interrupting 5 cashouts normally would take 15-20 rounds

[dreamy ore]

Idea for stun gun. Reduce it to 1 or 1.5 seconds top of stun effect that you cannot move , but instead the camera shake and glitch, but this glitch effect endures for 5 second making it difficult to aim. the enemy has to hold the trigger by 0.6 seconds before releasing the shot, and while that happens, please add a sound effect of 'Buzz' to the gun. Reduce the range of the gun at 3 meters maximum. +30% cooling time.

[hazy tiger]

can carry up to 1 frag now instead of 2

[modest rock]

Its also a whole specialization

[umbral swift]

Frag grenades are still strong even with every single deserved nerf they got. They do not need any compensation buffs whatsoever. They are still a throwable AoE explosive 140 damage on a fairly low cooldown that will detonate almost as soon as they land where they’re thrown, and even without hitting full damage, even a lesser amount like 70 damage is still enough to easily swing a fight.

The nerfs simply make it so frag grenades are strong instead of grossly overpowered.

[lilac pelican]

I understand the stun gun, but what the frags do

[weary dove]

just a QoL change, but can you please make the scopes of guns that dont have scopes by default match the skin thats equipped on that gun? i cant upload any images on this channel for some reason, but there are skins for the lh1 where the texture applies to the rail that the scope is attached to, but not the scope itself.

and a change for players who spend a lot of time in this game, 168k fans is really not hard to reach (im currently around 400k), so can you allow dedicated players to unluck multiple sponsor tracks in the same season? it rewards them for spending more time in the game and can be another thing to grind for (since the bp also doesnt take that long to complete)

[analog breach]

I SERIOUSLY PLAYED EVERY DAY COMPLETING THE CONTRACTS, SO AS NOT TO WIN ALL THE ROULETTE PRIZES, BECAUSE THAT IS A ***** ???

[zealous mural]

i rly like how the devs want to delete ALL fun from the game. Just nerf nerf nerf nerf overnerf nerf again, any fun strat? DELETE. Any good gun or Q on mid/heavy? our little light baby might get hurt, DELETE. This is embarassing at this point, you still can't realise that this "balance" you are chasing is a dogshit idea that will ruin the game even more and even more ppl will leave. THIS IS NOT FUN STOP OVERNERFING EVERYTHING AND DELETING FUN STRATS. this balance team should be fired at this point, ngl this is top tier fk-ups one after the other.

[regal ivy]

The reason they're nerfing so much is because certain gadgets are still picked way more than everything else making the game boring and repetitive

[nova osprey]

Everything they’ve done so far has been fine, why are you complaining so much

@azure wedge we always love the people who try to defend their views by asking for a 1v1 in a team based game. Yes, your right because light does suck in higher ranks, but that doesn’t change the fact that stun gun was kinda useless, no matter when you use it since it’s easily countered by goo nade or barrier or dome shield. Stun gun is unnecessary because of that reason. Instead of shooting first like you should have, you wasted a solid 2 seconds on stunning them. The only real reason for running stun gun was to stop cashouts and make people drop cash boxes. And no, I don’t main light but I can still drop 20 kill games with nothing but v9 vanish bomb and gas nade. Stun gun is useless because it wastes valuable time you could have been using to shoot instead

[tranquil condor]

Model revert please.

[thick lion]

me to bro! glad to see the event ends in 5 days....buuuut you can only buy the items now. its a $$$ grab

[errant rune]

What can you say, Embark, well done, you managed to make another crappy event that was made to lose players!! Congratulations... why waste days and months in your game, when in the end it's nothing, I wanted to spend money, I did this without dedicating my days to you... disappointment🤬 \

[silent fog]

it's so annoying, a boring annoying voice line for every little action, moaning when jumping and landing... Don't understand why they did this :/

[hollow flume]

Cause its a free win item

[tacit whale]

The nade at best does 40 dmg, why nerf it?

[oak kernel]

I didn't really have any issues with the stun gun currently, other than it being kind of a one trick for saving the cashout. Removing it seems a bit much, but if they make it better, sure

Also, THANK YOU FOR FIXING GOO

[limber nexus]

i think you might be bad at throwing them then

[drifting mauve]

Medium should have two you think? Just yesterday I was thinking they should drop it to one because it's a strong pick over other throwables. But with the slight nerf, I think medium keeping two would be appropriate.

[wide summit]

bro I play the game daily and I play all classes. The Stun Gun is literally for ppl who cant kill. I RARELY ever see it used to do anything other then that. You are going insane for what? lol

[river wind]

Didn't get any server icons in the firing range. Used to get them all the time.That's an improvement.

[teal bear]

Lmao there is legit nothing else to "rework" about the stun gun. Otherwise it's not a fucking stun gun. I use the stun gun exclusively to stop steals, stop chargeslam, and steal the cash box. Anyone who has played light at a higher level knows you still get beamed if you try to use stun gun for a 1v1.
Now a really useful tool is gone from my load out because "new" players can't be bother to learn a new game mechanic or some shit idek anymore

[maiden flax]

ever since the update, game has froze twice and dialog volume can't be turned off

[heavy hare]

Why can't we get anymore tickets?

[robust charm]

ok🥲

[wispy sand]

Unable to replicate at current. Will try and record video next time

Happens randomly but the trigger seems to be something to do with lots of spam hop sliding/vaulting/jumping. Occasionally the audio for the slide will get stuck on a loop and replay for the rest of the match.

[ebon monolith]

fsr3😁 without fg🥲

[ionic hound]

Grenade nerf was big funny, y'all gotta get good. What a wonderful idea to nerf every gun and gadget until none of them feel fun or useful anymore. Definitely don't try to buff up other items to make them also feel as powerful as the broken weapons/gadgets.

[crystal tide]

Sure its so fun to get blown up across the map

[fleet socket]

Watching lights freak out over their training wheels has been funny, thank you embark

[hollow badger]

the new console hud sucks

[merry anvil]

Not a fan of the frag nerfs. All people really asked for was a frag indicator. All the fun of gadgets is getting killed in the game.

Stun gun getting reworked is fine but... what happened to reworking recon senses??

[torpid current]

I highly recommend making console players a "console only" option instead of limiting it to that platform (so combine the player base of PlayStation and Xbox)
Unfortunately with the massive controller disadvantages in this game, it's nearly impossible to play with PC and platform only queues are horrible.

[marble prawn]

my whole team is only bronze in world tour and we are against another team that has ruby ranked players someone please fix this we shouldnt be going against ruby at bronze !

[molten trail]

Maybe because new players dont want to invest into a new game after dying to stun gun constantly? 😂

I agree with you that its still free to 1v1 against it. But for new or average players its cancer for them and the game needs to grow

[dusty marsh]

someone didnt read the dev notes

[hazy dock]

1. About Power Shift, the mode is great, for warm-up and variety of games it fits perfectly into this game, but since the second season about this mode as if forgotten, there are no new maps in this mode (Bernal, Fortune Stadium and Las Vegas), not counting Kyoto in the third season. Also on the existing maps would be interesting to play on the new routes of the platform that moves, as in TDM every round - a new location, and here, lacks mode diversity, I hope in season 6 for novelties in this mode.

2. Ranked tournament, this mode is objectively dead, why, because in the morning and at night to play in it is impossible, the search for matches is from 15 minutes to an hour and you konkontet with inappropriate to you ranked players. Yesterday I watched the players on the demonstration screen, the match search at 12:00 in the afternoon was 11 minutes and players from 40000 to 42000 throws into the match to 55000-61000 ruby, so should not be.

What interest to play in the Ranked tournament, if in the World Tour, the same beautiful awards, you can safely go in and there will get both strong and weak and even if you lose - nothing to lose.
In order to popularize Ranked need to rework the set of points for matches, possibly awards, well and the selection of players should be adequate, according to your rank, not 10-20 thousand more, it is not normal, it discourages the desire to play in this mode.

[torpid sky]

removing stungun to rework it but not taking winch with it tells everything u need to know about our devs😆

[manic sandal]

Why icons for vault/cashout on spawn are now sooo big?

[proven parcel]

Embark. Never misses a store update. Now we have to remove features to “work” on them??? It’s so clear where priorities are and it’s not for improving the game

[maiden epoch]

Stop removing charges and undo the frag update.

I don't know who complained, but grenades are supposed to kill you. The reason people picked grenades is because throwing explosives is more fun than reshaping flower pots.

You created an incredible, high octane shooter arena of explosives, then start nerfing frag grenades. You're beefing with grenades in an FPS. Who is making these decisions?

[maiden shell]

Very good update. Cosmetics are a little lame, but that's okay.

[jade cloak]

Stun gun gone. W rework. We eating good tonight

[signal basin]

And everyone telling me " why stun gun should do dmg becuase of hook?!!" maybe because they do exaclty the same thing ? Stun you to kill you easly. But yeah 200 HP diff is not enough for devs.

Rob litteraly say " I will never play Light" in stream yesterday. At this point, I know now devs don't give a shit about Light class because they know it's trash and will do nothing about it except listen poor skill kid and nerf Light or Buff other (Hello Cerberus, Pike and KS)

Instead of work on a rework and then release it, nah, they didn't rework correctly the stun and then remove it. Nice.

[gusty whale]

Buff light

[grizzled mauve]

Hello dear embark

[wraith pendant]

You not understanding. Stun gun is easy to counter any real finals player knows that you cant always use stun gun 1v1 especially since the first nerf when they let people turn quick to shoot while stunned. Now yall want an even bigger nerf shows how bad people are. STUN GUN was used best when its used to delay cash and get away on low health or to get away from a charge and slam etc. You are essentially wasting it if its used for 1 kill in most situations. The devs are killing this game slowly but surely

[spiral hemlock]

stun gun removal is the best rework it could get, W embark

[nova osprey]

But it takes time to learn a new mechanic that’s the thing. And it doesn’t help that people like you then proceed to blame them because they are new. Stun gun wasn’t health at all for the game, so it needs a rework

[blissful oxide]

Hello everybody. I would like to know if you are experiencing the same issue as I am. In every match of the global tournament mode, I am placed in the same game as Emerald-level players. Being a Silver-level player, it is almost impossible for me to win matches and climb the rankings since I am already playing against the 'best' players in the mode. I find it very frustrating not to be placed in games with players of my own level.

[drifting mauve]

We dont need a grenade indicator, The indicator is the sound of it hitting the floor and you can see it pretty easily.

[inner coral]

yall accidentally removed the wheel of love early.
just the challenges though.
Please give the players the entire event duration to earn tickets. There was no clear indication that today we wouldn't get any more ticket.

[mint kelp]

There was an indication lol

[ionic hound]

Preach. Seems the devs have a hard on for straight up nerfing shit instead of trying to figure out ways to reign in power without gutting weapons/gadgets. A frag indicator is all that was needed. I'm sure next update embark will be nerfing the jump pad height with the reasoning, "the jump pad allowed the player to jump too high allowing for an unfair advantage"

[surreal thicket]

I don’t complain a ton, but this patch notes gets me anxious, like why only nerfs. I personally think the frag grenade changes are not exactly what I was expecting this morning, and I have to agree with the majority the stun gun is good low rank but higher it’s easily switched for something more useful, do i think a rework is awesome yes, is removing a gadget from the game for a month, no. At least if the frags got increased recharge it wouldn’t be too bad but no buffs is what gets me, I feel the turret is very mid compared to the other medium specializations, I still feel the Cerberus is horrendously bad, but I feel like this was put together poorly I pray that this is a one off occurrence cause I love finals and it is one of if not my favorite games right now

[olive crown]

This is my personal idea for Stun Gun:

Stun Gun should return as "distraction" rather then used for easy kills. Perhaps it can block weapon/gadget swaps & reloads, disrupt shields (including Medium's Riot Shield and Dual Blades), disrupt enemy stealing cashout and cancel carriables & specializations.

@drifting mauve I agree with you. Also don't forget to mention the characters actually have voices to indicate whether there is grenade nearby. They scream something like: "Watch out!"

[tropic snow]

new hand model sucks

[lament talon]

Anyone who reads this please say if you agree with me and @ me in here:

Main Things we want improved for new and old players:

1. Crashes(there are way to many crashes for this game to really go and create tournaments currently

2. Improving the sponsor gameplay giving even the casual players a sense of progression.

Lmk what you think

[fleet socket]

"Daily event contracts will be available for 13 days, and the wheel will stay live for 19 days. The timer will display the remaining time"

[mortal notch]

change the roller UI the new one looks like shit

fix the servers
stuttering every 5-10s and getting 2-8 no regs every fight isnt fun

add mnk support DBD is about to add it before you
and ive asked repetly since it was removed you have been "working on it" for 430 days

[bronze pumice]

Hard agree on the console UI

[random lagoon]

it literally said the day you would stop getting tickets the whole time

[wide summit]

the real issue is not reverting the melee change and buffing the model.

[vapid minnow]

Hello

[digital yoke]

bruh rpg hook charge and especially ks-23 are not insta W button compared to stun
BTW LH1+grapple exist, sh1900+dash exist, v9s exist, m11exist, invis exist etc so I don't understand your claim about H if L have some of his stuff too

[dim glacier]

grenades are bad now lol

[pseudo breach]

Same. lol, and got down voted on reddit because of it.

[boreal hare]

How hard would it be to implement kill cams?

[quick coyote]

Put this skin in the game and my wallet is yours embark

[bronze matrix]

Was just about to say this lol. The stated reason is “to bring it into line with the rpg” but you’re just making both items more boring and less distinct. I feel it might be better to balance with a higher emphasis on buffing underperforming weapons rather than nerfing overperformers

[worthy rivet]

red. pants.

[pure nacelle]

so are we just not gonna get anymore daily tickets for the event

[prisma vault]

The ticket collection ended yesterday, there was a line of text stating this. The extra week or whatever is just to redeem the tickets or buy the remaining stuff w multibucks. They did this for the Halloween wheel as well.

[hoary rapids]

why cant i earn any more tickets??? edit: i just read the message

[hushed hinge]

New changes don't effect me much except for getting got by the stun gun (was never mad at it) .... but stop listening to these man children complaining...... most people enjoy the game for what it is and don't immediately look for a place to bitch about every little thing just because they suck

[royal gust]

Winch is way less stronger than stungun. u can jumppad urself out of it, dash, grapple, be invisible, u could stun the wincher, you can also just shoot earlier and kill before u arrived at the winchers position. You can also Goo the wincher with a GooGun so there's like 10+ options to fight it. nope not ai generated lmao. Winch is also needed for melee players in Ruby rank. @torpid sky. Just play more range if u know u play against a winch heavy and grapple does save u in most cases. but besides 1 option maybe not being that good. there's plenty other options. there's not much to do about stun tho @brittle obsidian. I mentioned multiple solutions per class, for light there's like 3 other options lmao. @sudden sluice

[torpid sky]

ai generated response 🤡

[crystal tide]

More skibidi please

[brittle obsidian]

invis or grapple aint saving you from winch lmao

[safe quarry]

Awesome there’s finally server performance updates, but is there still nothing on dlss4 not working? When the finals was supposed to have day 0 support

[vague sorrel]

Ever fighting a heavy head on is on you bro

[sudden sluice]

oh yeah when did the light get a goo gun

[obtuse wedge]

grenade indicator only helps L to dash to grapple away, I don’t understand why still buffing L **not to mention some of skins are made and sold very good due to they make grenade not being able to see clearly, and now those money are sort of wasted

[raw blaze]

@safe quarry I agree. Also,

Air Strike events

[surreal meadow]

@wraith salmon your wish has been answered

[marble prawn]

you should be able to leave without penality in cashout when you whole team disconnects or is afk emoting

[thorny lynx]

It is INCREDIBLY easy to counter stun. If you complain about it or are trolling joy for it being removed you are most likely a HORRIBLE fps player in general, have bad aim and also run a turret thinking that makes up for being a bad player.

[worn tapir]

strange, unwarranted update with no realization of other problems in the game

[long arrow]

+1 embark.....

[brave badger]

+1

[simple quiver]

I think you guys are literally unable to buff something jesus christ

[frank jungle]

Nerf m11 and tk

[rustic vault]

Sword is so unfun to play against

[gleaming summit]

5.10 is the first update that is good game feels better and the changes are great. it's one step to remove annoying stuff!

[keen sable]

I think the stun gun was a good thing because it teaches players that they are stronger as a team

[calm gazelle]

Gimme back my frags tho

[untold hazel]

it aint a glitch its just the way it is

[slow mesa]

Hi does anybody know how turn off that "unbound" text under every gadget ? thx

[mystic sierra]

why dummies on the firing range are friendlies lmao
i'd like to drop a screenshot but unfortunately can't flex with my image perms

[hushed hinge]

So? They should change the game specifically for you? Just because you get killed by a sword?

[paper oak]

buff revolver

[clear shuttle]

IM PLAYING GTA 7

[silent fog]

I hope the voice lines/moaning when jumping being on again without being able to turn them off is a glitch. It's really annoying

[uneven dagger]

Most W patch yet

[slender girder]

Personally I don't think stunning or freezing should be in PVP games at all. It's just too annoying being on the receiving end of. I even quit a Mario Kart knockoff game due to it 😆

[surreal kestrel]

Did they make watches more visible in your wrist?

[inland dove]

where can I do bug report? when I play competitive tournament roughly every 3-4 games I have a bug where my ability\main weapon is swapped to default in-between rounds

[daring fossil]

holy shit, Server improvements, after everyone complained for 12 months about the terrible netcode and stopped playing the game you finally decide to look into it. color me surprised, I'll retain my praise until I actually see it though

[plush fjord]

nah but we'd balance the classes accordingly. buff light's health to 200hp but lower its speed. nerf heavy's hp to 300 but buff its speed. lower the reload speeds and slightly nerf overall range for light weapons. and focus a lot more on making it a stealth and relatively highest mobility class. Heavy's weapons would get a slight recoil and reload speed buff to certain weapons and all

Anyways, Idea for a new feature to the game:

• Mediums and lights are given basic parkour mechanics like wall running, jumping and wall climbing, etc.
• Heavy gets the option for a special meelee that activates whenever u do the normal meelee near a wall. Which breaks a big section of it. Plus, it can do wall jump, except that it breaks or weaken the wall it just jumped off from.

[serene creek]

#1201841543926005810 You can leave a report here and you can also ask other players in #bug-discussion

[analog hearth]

Do I understand correctly that there will be no more contracts to get tickets for the wheel? I have 18/20 rewards. I need to spend about 900 multibucks to get the rest. And I'm not going to do that. I don't understand why someone got this for free and I have to pay? You know what, fuck you, Embark. I'm deleting this game, I liked it, but your asshole decisions and terrible matchmaking pissed me off, and this wheel has made me realize that I have nothing more to do here.

[clever hawk]

Removed cripple gun ✅
Solid frag nerf ✅
Stability improvement ✅
Cashouts vaultable ✅
Headshot elim sound ✅

Small patch, humongous W ✅

[normal mauve]

can we get multiple skin select? for example: select 2 skins from same wepaon. weapon skin is changes every round

[marble prawn]

yes im also 18/20 left i feel like since its 4 duplicates for 1 ticket they should make that ticket guaranteed atleast !! also if you're onl going to give 1 frag atleast leave the damage alone

[barren hornet]

Kill animations?

How about more animations when getting a kill? The coins that appear are cool but more variety would be cooler. Maybe not just by getting a kill, but we could have a special animation when performing a team wipe depending on the weapon or skin you are using at the moment (similar to valorant, yes).

It might only work if you do the team wipe by yourself, without help from someone else.

Some animations I can think of are similar to the emotes we already have in the game. Remember those blue characters that look like they are made of "grids"? As in the wrestler emote. Maybe one of those blue characters could pick up the player we killed and do that wrestling movement to them, or something similar, lol.

[terse belfry]

+++++

[narrow spade]

Y'all gotta be trolling with this stun gun shit. If some bronze 1 player can't handle it then just nerf the already weak parts and make it obvious why it's bad. Don't remove the fucking gadget for however many weeks and say it needs a full rework 💀 Idk how you guys got it messed up in your heads that stun was more annoying than glitch trap, winch, c&s, etc. I mean glitch trap has actively been shutting down an entire class from playing the game for all skill levels and has been banned in competitions for being so ass. Like if you removed that shit the whole world might actually cheer at once. But no you go after a mid ass ability that was only good in hyper specific scenarios. Removing it from the game for a while cus apparently you couldn't just leave it there. Like I just don't understand what the fuck you're doing.

Thanks embark.

[river hearth]

Doesn't matter how good or bad it is, it's inherently unfun to play against

[distant ledge]

😂

[tough willow]

If we're losing the stun gun can we replace it with something better? I'm thinking that melee weapons should have a third attack that strikes the legs. This should immediately slow the enemy for a given amount of time. That would make melee play less punishing while still requiring skill and thoughtful play. It would also remove the issue of having to chase down dash lights even after you perfectly ambush them.

[lean tree]

When is the MGL32 finally getting a rework? I feel like nobody plays with it

[glass fjord]

CANT BALANCE IT, MIGHT AS WELL JUST REMOVE IT. CLASSIC EMBARK.

Nade indicator, which everyone has wanted since day 1, wouldve solved the nade problem btw.

[fathom hearth]

Do what you did with dead go boom, tripwires & turrets, and recon senses... claim you're going to rework it then never bring it back. glad to see lights dont have another free kill button

[cedar eagle]

Why did we nerf frag? Like it's not bad but was that really necessary? Screams of major skill issue ngl

Edit @jay: yeah but only on a direct hit, literally just step 1 foot to the side, hence major skill issue (lights are position sensitive glass cannons, highest dps output in the game is supposed to be paid off with vulnerability)

reemphasizing that if you couldn't side step a frag, you're kinda just bad at the game

[crisp heart]

PLEEEEEEASE ADD A HUD SAFEZONE ALREADY ITS BEEN OVER A YEAR REEEEEEEE

[cobalt loom]

it used to one shot lights lol

[rich comet]

You can force it in the driver level https://i.imgur.com/Wi2JTSR.png'

[brittle obsidian]

it was 300 aoe damage in a single gadget slot. it invalidated a ton of other gadget choices and was a must-have in high elo.

[frosty swallow]

still 1 foot to the side hits you for 149 with is basically an instant kill in most situations - you could shoot an sh1900 from crossmap hit someone random and they die (this has happened to me before and i almost alt+f4)

[blissful void]

Popping in to give a few thoughts:

1. Truly appreciate the attention to detail of feedback from the community and addressing long-standing issues. I have a lot of clips regarding server latency, dying behind walls, and general odd behavior from the game. I understand the Finals is a complex game and there isn’t a 1 fix trick for it, but the dev notes, context, and commitment to improvement is noteworthy and as a committed player I appreciate it.

2. I’m looking forward to reworks and more consistent balance updates. The game is getting closer to a balanced state and the nerf of frags was long overdue with respect to the other throwables (ie. Pyro and gas grenades). Even the mention of animation timing for manual actions, this attention to detail is important for a game that intends on being e-sports ready.

3. The QOL and stability fixes, including OBS compatibility specifically, are nice for content creators like myself who continue to use these types of tools.

4. As always, love the cosmetics. Would love to see more consistency in sets, or release dates, or filtering/easier search for matching sets to put together outfits. This is more of a nice to have than a need to have, but noteworthy. Thanks for all your hard work, Embark.

[gusty sierra]

Anyone else hating the equipment wheel ui change?

[wide summit]

a friend of mine suggests the stun gun requires the user to hold the trigger for its effect causing the team to assist. Maybe that can factor into the new changes

[cunning fossil]

Why doesn't the rocket launcher kill in one hit? Is a grenade better now?

[warped axle]

I like this removing of the stun gun hopefully when it comes back its not as op

[tacit whale]

I must be playing a totally different game to you guys. I have multiple clips of the grenade doing 30dmg less at peoples feet, I’m definitely not picking this dog shit again. These recent nerfs are giving me hell divers 2 vibes 🫠

[warm epoch]

Embark never fails to make poor decisions with this game

[shell flicker]

keep taser banned untill season 6

[sonic spoke]

Barricade, flame, charge& slam, glitch nade/mine.....

[torpid sky]

"play more range" same could be said about stun so why do u support stungun removal but against winch removal? the double standards are insane

@severe linden u won't be able to move out the way, you'll die instantly unless you're playing against bots who will let u escape,stun can be countered by shooting at the light since you've faster ttk than light also u can just equip doomshield/goonade and throw it the moment u get stunned but with winch you get hooked and killed instantly with no time to do anything

@royal gust you can't dash away from winch either unless you're playing against bots who can't aim also you can jumpad out of stun

winch counters in question: only stun gun cuz glitch nade doesn't explode on impact and even if it does in winch range you'll have no time to counter it

[mortal notch]

change the roller UI the new one looks like shit

fix the servers
stuttering every 5-10s and getting 2-8 no regs every fight isn't fun and makes the game nearly unplayable personally

add mnk support DBD is about to add it before you
and ive asked repetly since it was removed you have been "working on it" for 430 days

[severe linden]

Winch I can just move out the way after being grabbed, after being stunned however…

[royal gust]

Because u cant dash away out a stun, you cant grapple out of a stun, you cant jumppad out of a stun you cant do anything about stun. Winch has counters.

[reef spade]

i have to say, you guys nailed with todays patch
i can finally play this game again in NA

[dusty igloo]

What the fuck decision making is ranked score, 1st place seeding by fuck all as a solo queuer, lost 800 points gain 700 for a full win, a team mate leaves

[uncut hedge]

servers down?

[safe quarry]

Yeah thats what i meant. It works for a bunch of others, the override, but the finals stays unsupported. Unless something changed in the past couple days

[sullen aspen]

Stop nerfing shit down to single use! Single use means it might be amazing the one time you need it, but means you are MUCH less likely to swing a fight with it.
Mines, now nades. The game is fun because I have a bunch of tools in my belt. Stripping the number of tools just sucks. I would have much preferred a nerf down to 100-125 dmg

[glass fjord]

you really think a light has time to get a glitch nade off on a sword player that only has to right click melee to kill?

[tall spoke]

DAY 30 of asking for 5v5 cahsout variant

[lean tree]

• FIX MAP ROTATION ( I have had Bernal like 4 times this WHOLE season doesn't even feel that there is a new map. The whole time sys horizon! i have so much hate for this map now how many times ive had it...
• PLEASE DO SOMETHING BOUT THIS MATCHMAKING PLEASE @pearl kiln... Every game and i mean it every game, i get teammates with no IQ. always having the most kills and then seeing that my other M and H are going 1/8 and 3/9 is CRAZY!!! when i started today i had 37000 points... now i am fucking gold again after 5 games. You just cannot solo Q like this. Holy shit...
• Que time is also crazy long for everytime to be put with shit teammates. I lose every game because of this i am right now 28k points............ just played a game, again a Heavy with 1/2/5 with 1.337 damage!!!!!!! FOR REAL WHAT IS THIS?? While i go 9/1/3 5k damage and 5 revives.....
  Thank you embark for making me sweat fucking like crazy just to be losing all these points because legit EVERY GAME i get matched with noobs and every enemy knows what he is doing except for my teammates. I am on the verge of crashing out. It is not even fun playing anymore just making me fucking angry losing all the points ive worked for

[daring fossil]

its greyed out for me too

[ebon umbra]

Why do we have the Wheel Of Love but No way to get Tickets after this patch?

[terse slate]

Please move the speaking away from SFX-Volume... Its incredbly loud when you call "GUARDIAN TURRET PLACED!" "MOTION SENSOR PLACED!"

[west trellis]

Would have preferred if the RPG was given back some dignity vs nerfing frag grenades for outperforming it.

Also I didn't think stun was that bad. A rework sure, but temporary removal feels a bit extreme

[storm inlet]

nerf db, nerf cerberus, nerf sword and stop listening to reddit ffs

[rich comet]

Dematerializer and destruction

Ever since Dematerializer was introduced it feels like the need for destructive properties from i e the Heavy class is no longer needed. It sure is key for some cool plays, but the movement within buildings gained for the Medium class is unmatched and particularly powerful in the hands of experienced players.

Do you share my feelings?

💡 Maybe buff the Turret and make it a class specialization and get rid of Dematerializer completely.

[nimble gale]

Bring back two nades

[wide summit]

make c4 good again

[topaz jungle]

…ya’ll convinced us to move on from the RPG by nerfing it and starting that grenade promotion months ago. So you don’t want anyone to use grenades now? Because a minority of the player base who can’t seem to handle spatial awareness complains? I’ve gotten killed by grenades plenty of times. But, I don’t blame the game for it, I blame my own decisions that led me to getting fragged. At least give us a decent new gadget that’s as dynamic and useable, not silly crap like that gravity sphere. No one likes that stupid thing

[quartz oak]

Bring back two nades (they were not anywhere near OP?), and revert the stupid gadget delay when you’re revived via defibs. The number of times my tm8s and I have died purely because we cannot use gadgets for seconds is ridiculous

[ocean eagle]

You may have just killed the frags for me. I relied heavily on those. I'm not the best shot and that allowed me to get more kills and clear areas. Horrible choice. Honestly may not run them anymore. Who was asking for this nerf??

[clever hawk]

10m winch is absolutely hideous. So many fun plays now impossible.

Give it 15m and then nerf its CQC dominance by capping the proximity players are pulled into to 5m instead of 1m

[uncut hedge]

nerf lh1 and sa12

[twilit sand]

rework the turret. its a troll pick and is a noob trap

[daring fossil]

yeah, 1 grenade is pretty lame, the damage nerf was already not needed since it only ever did 150 damage less than 1% of the time, also TDM is just lights with M11, maybe look at the M11.

[lime lark]

thanks embark

[upper citrus]

Please no. Don’t balance the game differently because of TDM

[azure dagger]

Embark I can’t take Tripple defibs anymore please I’m gonna take a break next season if it’s still meta

[zinc ember]

I have never seen someone complain about defibs

[delicate marlin]

Thank you for looking into making grenades more readable. My prayers have been answered

[summer yoke]

Stun gun already removed because casuals get rekt, last thing we need is one of the only viable high elo guns for light to get nerfed because you’re getting clapped in TDM

[supple mortar]

Hmm lets see, Double Barrel, Matter, Glitch Mines, Cerberus, Charge and Slam (Still does 2/3rds of their hp), Flamethrower and Lockbolt all counter sword pretty well

[sleek sigil]

BUFF THE MOVEMENRT AND ADD TAP STRAFE OR THE GAME GONNA DIE AND STILL HAVE ONLY 30 YEARS OLD PLAYIN

[dreamy badge]

This isnt a problem at all with current defib nerfs. Also, most people typically do not run triple defibs now... What rank do you play?

[tropic coral]

Dear Embark,

Ranked issues:

• grieving is crazy and most of the time it’s totally out of your control. U can get first 2 cashouts, die then it gets double stack and a certain team decides to let the lower elo team steal.

• point system, it isn’t that bad but when you’re expected to end first place but you have bad luck, getting third partied or something else that isn’t in your hand in the first round. Horrible feeling.

I don’t know how you would fix it but sometimes it feels like it just isn’t worth my time… purely cause I start of on 43K and en a 3 hours session on 43K.

[topaz widget]

Day 1 of asking for a trading system or marketplace similar to the R6 marketplace

-no trading or buying ranked cosmetics

-battle pass items can be bought 2 seasons after the battle pass expires. ex: s1 battle pass items can be bought in s3

-minimum 150-250 multibucks to buy a cosmetic

-filters between light, medium, and heavy

-older store packs can be bought aswell for the same price or 500 more than it was previously in store. ex: (skeleton pack in store- 1500mb, skeleton pack in marketplace- 2000mb)

-10% reduction on cosmetics set for auction or sold. ex: (sell hat for 200mb, get 180mb back)

please take this into consideration. i'd love to see a new platform emerge with items that new players weren't and aren't able to receive as of right now.

[grim violet]

I am once again asking for a Russian or Ukrainian translation for the game. (even if it is just the UI, not voice lines)

[fiery shuttle]

Remove glitch from the game🗣️ 🗣️ Let me use my abilities 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[quick coyote]

Half of the complaints are just "I didn't win the round and I went in thinking I should, and that's not fair" grow up. That's an actual skill issue if you get third partied and couldn't adapt to the situation properly.

[tropic snow]

Suppressor and red dot would be amazing, rest would be way over the top

[small shadow]

Red dot on fcar would be so good
Red dot on famas will be best ( bs i dont use it )
Red dot on pike it would seems like hacker

[signal basin]

Update after patch 5.10 :
Congrats Embark, instead of a rework, you just remove one of the lastest teamplay move a stun can do, cancel a steal, by removing the stun gun.
Light is the weakest class and the one who lost the most but yeah, let's nerf them more after a nonsense buff to the Cerberus or PIKE and nerf more and more Light.
They will be still Light player and people complain about them for everything and nothing. But they will lose even more.
No wonder why Rob says he will never play Light during a stream yesterday. They don't give a shit about Light class.

For the game

• Increase the netcode/tickrate/servers. Getting kill at 3m far from a hammer/sword or behind a wall / door / cover is not ACCEPTABLE. In this condition, playing Light it's like playing a H but with 150HP. Servers can't register your movements !
• Perma ban toxic players and cheaters
• Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
• Let us go in practice with friends please
• Delete low gravity event. It's not fun AT ALL
• Fix events appear in front of the scoreboard
• Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets
• We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
• Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
• Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
• Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now
• Dash is trash with your netcode. Servers can't register a dash behind a cover and you will die anyway
• Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match
• Let us use our VR for XP weapons or other things (not from me but very interresting idea !)

** For balance **

• The Sword buff was not necessary in 5.8
• The FAMAS nerf is useless in 5.8
• The CERBERUS buff was to strong in 5.8
• Nerf PIKE to 49 instead of 50 dmg. You know what you did in 5.8 with that.
• Buff Light survability or DPS. Light should be the DPS class but the game is always around Medium and Heavy class
• Nerf a bit Deagle damage or range
• Nerf Shak damage a bit
• Buff XP54 damage to 18
• No more dmg on hook. It's nonsense. If hook do damage, stun gun should do too ! They both stun you !
• Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls or other.
• Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charged
• Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked
• Spawn are still trash. You can wipe a squad on vault and they will respawn on the Cashout waiting for killing you. But after get wipe by them, YOU SPAWN AT 100M and MORE
• Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safety !

Playing Light in your game is not fun at all. It's not balanced. Charge, RPG, Frag grenade, Cerberus, Magnum, everything got faster TTK than anyway weapons of Light. Except SH who need to be a 3m or less WITH 150HP class

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

[swift dagger]

This season was perfect. From the patches to the new game modes to the valentine's day event. The fact that a couple heavy couldn't hit 3 shots to kill the glass cannon of a light is so tragic. Once again leave it to the heavys to ruin the already weak class for others. Go hide behind you dome shields and celebrate that you're about to ruin another class.

[clever hawk]

🚨 EPIC SUGGESTION 🚨

Add AUDIO into The Finals!

With AUDIO we could HEAR 🔊

If AUDIO is DIRECTIONAL we would be able to HEAR the DIRECTION that SOUNDS come from! 🔥🔥🔥

The fatfuck HEAVY right behind you would now have FOOTSTEP NOISE! The cashout beep would now be AUDIBLE at all times!

EPIC 💯

[crude saffron]

It feels like we're optimizing the fun out of the game chasing a balance white whale. 2 grenades while probably overtuned had a much better gamefeel to them. Single charge on the grenades is much less fun.

This isn't just a one off event either. We made the sniper feel terrible to use to balance it in powershift (a side gamemode mind you. It was fine if not underpowered in cashout), the semi recent nerfs to zipline and bounce pad make waiting for the cd to end feel like forever if you're not running double movement, and yes while it may be stupid to complain about, we got rid of goo ships. Last one is the worst decision since they were harmless fun and not a meta tactic at all.

No specific balance suggestions but I think yall at Embark need to start considering gamefeel a good bit more than yall have when making these balance changes.

While the game is definitely more balanced than it was on release it's lost the fun.

[austere portal]

Honestly just miss the old finals. Game is getting so altered now by people with skill issues. I think weapon bloom shouldn’t even exist in a fps genre. Ur hurting people with actual good aim by handicapping with inconsistency. Plus the V-day rewards don’t work can’t get anymore tickets even tho it’s 5 days left.

[thorny sedge]

thats crazy I think that happened during halloween event it said 5 days left and then was gone. Pretty big bug as I was planning around those 5 days lol

[undone elm]

Re: the stun gun, why not change it to only affect the target while it is in use (hold down the trigger for example)? That way when the player switches weapon, the target can easily return fire as well. It would promote lights working with teammates to crowd control a target while their teammates deal damage.

[fast moat]

Loving the new hand models

[valid owl]

stun gun talk aside.. when do we get private messaging to friends wtf :DDDD its so annoying that i cant communicate with them unless i have added them to discord or something. Fifth season alredy and still no way to communicate with friends unless they are in party

[lavish shard]

Best update stunnoob die
Nerf m11
Nerf cloak
Nerf db

[brittle obsidian]

its literally the gun you start with dude

[untold hazel]

nerf m11

[feral adder]

Cod starterpack

[shut tapir]

xD

[rapid stream]

No.

[quartz dirge]

We do not need attachments. Period.

[glacial salmon]

Goodluck saying that again when youre in a cashout inside a linear room

@pliant lion Completely cap. You still got your gun and can now even aim with it. Unless the light got some double barrel, knife or sword, you should not have a hard time losing a 1v1 gunfight against a light if its head on while stunned. He would still need to do some sweaty maneuvering if he wants to make sure he isnt trading dps.

Funny how mediums drop so many glitch/sonar mines, and heavies revert to charging/hook or spamming shields/barricades but they say stun gun ruins game flow lol god forbid i disable the heavy's panic button charge/hook 💀

And i remember when Recon season 1 was something ACTUALLY broken. Now yall just nitpicking sussies

[vital basin]

i just lost 900 rs because i couldn't switch to my specialization (goo gun). Seriously does this game not have any playtesters??

[normal oasis]

Why does the wheel of love have 5 days left if we can’t get more tickets embark

[versed cloud]

Make the turrets reload. They have 100% uptime and that alone is preposterous value considering you currently believe we should only have one grenade at a time.

[paper meadow]

I’m loving the Cerberus post the most recent buff but I think it needs one last lil’ push. That being its burn damage. Reduce the amount of pellets necessary to burn making it easier to dissipate gas and burn goo, while also making it more consistent to proc on players.

And also, increase the duration of the burn effect very slightly. I’m talking add 1 or 2 more tics of damage. Sooooo often I’ll land nearly enough shots to kill, get eliminated and have burn tic my target down to 5-10 health left. Now obviously just barely missing a kill isn’t an uncommon occurrence all around but it happens so often with the Cerberus it’s a little annoying, especially against heavies where you need to be nearly perfect with your spacing to secure a kill in one mag.

With these slight changes I think it would make the cerb a more interesting tactical choice, while making it feel much more consistent without just making it a SH1900 +1.

[quick coyote]

tickets aren't earnable right now but wheel event is supposed to be for another 5 days?

[rigid oxide]

I hope the devs get to read my (corkchef) question but if they don’t get to it, I’ll throw it in here

[clever hawk]

🚨 EPIC SUGGESTION 🚨

Add AUDIO into The Finals!

With AUDIO we could HEAR 🔊

If AUDIO is DIRECTIONAL we would be able to HEAR the DIRECTION that SOUNDS come from! 🔥🔥🔥

The fatfuck HEAVY right behind you would now have FOOTSTEP NOISE! The cashout beep would now be AUDIBLE at all times!

EPIC 💯

[rough monolith]

Cerberus is painfully annoying why would you guys add a triple barrel shotgun with dragons breath its the same thing that killed codww2

[honest siren]

Todays complaint is that the friends list is more broken than usual.

see, for some reason, it displays people are online that aren't online. It feels like a crazy marketing tactic to get me to invite people to play because i think they are online, when they aren't

but really it just leads to awkward situations where im inviting somebody twice to play a game when they are busy doing something else because i think they are in the menu.

super awkward and i would prefer it not show people "online" if they aren't/havent been in 10+ hours.

been doing that since season 1 and it seems worse after this last update

[valid owl]

why remove stun gun and yet dash/sword combo still exist its so fucking annoying and op

[vale acorn]

The tickets for the event wheel have disappeared with six days left

[abstract ravine]

Reducing frag to one time use is one of the most pointless decisions I've seen the balancing team do, and despite community feedback most of the time their decisions are either good or at least reasonable.
It serves no purpose to again reduce something akin to the explosive mine down to next to uselessness when there was no complaint about it in the first place. Frags already had a seldom use case with the flow of the game, most people took other things than it, but now that TDM is the way that it is Embark for some reason felt the need to nerf it into being even more situation-specific.

[raw blaze]

Please no. People with M11 can be slammed by so many other guns. I agree with you trent.

[wild talon]

my daily wheel spin challenges are greyed out?
its been 2 days since i last did them theyt shouldve refreshed?
any ideas?

[lilac coral]

But other games do that also show that a player is online even if there not in that said game 😂😂

@wild talon am pretty sure it ended today

[fast moat]

Why are you even putting yourself in a position to be dashed and stabbed? you see a lobby with lights and dont switch your loadout to be in a better position to handle them?

[warm compass]

nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf = not fun game buff all classes

[lapis pelican]

Imo the wheel would be a lot better If you could gain tickets from other challenges than dailies. Maybe remove the tickets from dailies all together and just have challenges that last the whole event's time

[proven parcel]

Cope

[zinc haven]

bye bye stun exploit grouped-up wish-to-be Lights 🏁

[cunning fossil]

It would be great if the cost of skins, weapons, etc. were cheaper for people in the Latin American region, since it is clear that the economy of the finals is based on a lot of money 💵 for people who have a lot of money 😦

@o.s.0#0000 I don't know how, but many times I've had lucky throws and killed people with grenades.

[wraith pendant]

Might as well not even bring the stun back LMAOOO the first nerf was enough tbh but to nerf again is CRAZY WORK, time to abuse H and M with dash sword again 😂😂😂

[mortal notch]

change the roller UI the new one looks like shit

fix the servers
stuttering every 5-10s and getting 2-8 no regs every fight isnt fun

add mnk support DBD is about to add it before you
and ive asked repetly since it was removed you have been "working on it" for 430 days

[fading cobalt]

Make stun a support gadget.

[oak kernel]

Just replace the stun gun with a gooey gun that goos the ground slowing people down and that's it. Easy CC, affects the shooter and their team as well.

[long ruin]

removing stun gun is so dumb it was perfect the way it was and embark goes out of their way to buff/nerf all the wrong things. fore example WHY DOES THE FIRE SHTGUN 1 SHOT LIGHTS ITS BS

[rapid stream]

Nerf pike and cerb!!!

[fast fiber]

pls 2 frag

[tacit whale]

I’m going through the feed and I genuinely feel like I’m the only person experiencing the dash/DB plague. Am I that bad at the game? what am I missing here 🫠🫥

[untold hazel]

nah its there alright and i hate it

[raw blaze]

Well. Idk how to feel about this. I wouldn't mind it if there wasn't so much open space, idk ts just look kinda ugly ngl.

One more thing, "Y" or "Triangle" for controllers are no longer the button prompt to equip your weapon which is interesting. I mean the button still works but like.... why? whyyy? The big thing for my is it's just harder to read. I am not only so used to the other UI, but nothing is aligned so you gotta kinda search around for what equipment are recharged. Idk I think it's just me but this is NOT it and I hope we get a way to revert the UI change back to what it was

[floral vault]

Hey, I think the idea of getting extra tickets for dupes was cool, but not having any purchasable for VRs is dumb, I Got every ticket every day except one for the whole period and still had 5 items left at the end. I'm very sad because It's not my fault. having some for VRs was a really nice touch as it encouraged people to play more games

[rigid oxide]

Is there any chance of magic being a part of a future medieval season?
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/xrcAMFBZkX

[nova osprey]

So, first of all, what I really like is that even if light is a lone lurker, that doesn’t actually justify the use of a 1v1 in proving your point.

Second, when you stun a heavy they cant charge, so automatically this shows a flaw in your argument, showing that you don’t know at all what you’re talking about.

Third , if you are engaging with a heavy, you should automatically assume that they have charge, meaning you should know not to be right in front of them.

Fourth, I never said I used gas to counter, I said I use gas instead when using light because it’s a much better weapon for crowd control.

Fifth, if a light tases you, and you kill them first when using medium or heavy, it’s not because light is weak, it’s because you had more time to react. They should have shoot first, which would most likely have put you on the same health, instead they stunned, which gives time to react.

Sixth, I never said I average 20 kills, I said I can drop 20 kill games without stun gun because I understand that all stun gun does is give my opponent more time to react. You say you’re the best in the world. I call bullshit. If you understood anything you would know that stun gun isn’t helping you at all but is instead harming you and providing no actual use to combat.

Finally, I have two things. You say all the truly skilled players quit, and once again I call bullshit. Obviously you don’t understand and most likely haven’t played in a minute if you’re responding in the way you have. You obviously didn’t read my paragraph I wrote to you because you just pretended I said things when I very much didn’t.

[earnest sierra]

Accidentally created a new skin

[clever hawk]

🚨 EPIC SUGGESTION 🚨

Add AUDIO to The Finals!

With AUDIO we could HEAR 🔊

If AUDIO is DIRECTIONAL we would be able to HEAR the DIRECTION that SOUNDS come from! 🔥🔥🔥

The fatfuck HEAVY right behind you would now have FOOTSTEP NOISE! The cashout beep would now be AUDIBLE at all times!

EPIC 💯

[ebon monolith]

make cerbrus shots tight or buff model again ffs

[midnight ingot]

quick question, does anyone have the same problem with the daily contracts of wheel of love? i can't click them or see them at all

[torpid sky]

the meta in tdm is medium and heavy with turret/cerb/glitchtraps/sonar & winch/sa12/shak/flamethrower/sonar/lockbolt btw

light is useless there

[daring musk]

ticket daily contracts????

[daring fossil]

I donno, I usually do pretty good as light in TDM, as long as the teams have some variety, can't do shit against 5 M11s. I honestly don't see many heavies in TDM.

[nova plover]

Would be interested in seeing Amethyst weapon skins being introduced as weapon or gadget mastery skins eventually.

[plucky zenith]

This was a pretty good season but not a fan of the mid season updates. Too many nerfs
Give back the 2 frags. No indicator needed IMO not that hard to avoid.

[fringe veldt]

oh great, i thought it was just my game being fucked up. why on earth are the tickets gone when there's still 5 days left

[round geyser]

Not gonna Iie do not like the new weapon layout hud

[slender girder]

Always said the days you could collect tickets were shorter than the whole event is, sadly

[cunning fossil]

WHY DID THEY REMOVE A GRENADE, WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A GRENADE?! PUT THE 2 GRENADES ALWAYS

[full inlet]

It's so you get FOMO and buy the items you didn't win. This whole event is just a money grab for them.

[languid valley]

Audio stopped working correctly around season 4 (at the start i think), they have no addressed or fixed it in any way.
Also the audio works perfectly for spectators but not for players.
🤷‍♂️ Doubt it'll get fixed cuz they don't really fix big game breaking bugs

[glossy wigeon]

Make it so the taser is closer to it's RL counterpart.

For it to stun, the player must continuously hold down the trigger. It has a charge that depletes the longer you use it with a cooldown.
Maybe 10 damage per second, max of 5 seconds

Have the taser strings too, if the enemy player runs out of range, it just stops completely.

Reload function for a new cartridge.

Making it so Taser losers would basically need to 2v1 you to kill you

HMU Embark

[clear crystal]

Why keep changing the breach charge with more and more buffs but leave c4 which does basically exactly the same thing nerfed into the ground with zero player using it

[calm gazelle]

The balancing focuses too heavily on nerfing the oppressive guns/gadgets. they should think about buffing the worst ones instead of nerfing the best ones. Excessive nerfing just leads to feeling like every weapon has been neutered and all your favorite guns suddenly stopped working.

Example: frags. Instead of nerfing them by removing a charge, maybe improve other grenades to level the playing field.

Some things do deserve to be nerfed, but constantly killing the meta makes it feel awful to play a game where every time you start to like a gun/gadget it gets killed by balancing. It would hurt less to just make the non-meta more viable.

[raw blaze]

I agree with this in every way

[golden shuttle]

There should be more gameshow events, the only other additional events I've seen was retro invasion, the possibilities could be endless, I think the more chaos, the more stimulating and fun it would be

[long arrow]

1. +1
2. A other way for ranked that ranked progression with sr who doesnt have sens..... i prefer arrow progression (more logik ngl) we can play good but loose stupid games & loose sr for get worst mates
3. resolve double swords having the basic inspect animation after death & resurection 1time, recomebackink in skin inspect animation after some deaths, maybe same for some others skins
4. make intensification mode like valorant , with all wweapons ingame ( team deathmatch but like weapons changes after 3-4kills , first team to compte all weapons in , snow balls at the end with last weapon )for match point
5. make map vote
6. maybe add ranked by class
7. add valentine , christmas, New cns music to junkebox musics lobby ( thx for add it)
8. Create Beach map/ Bank map / Jungle map/ Western map
   9)karambit or butterfly skins for dag
9. dragons skins for assault riffle
10. maybe a new weapon with gas for mediums or somethink ( we have fire gun , why not gas guns ! )

[compact quartz]

add sorting by season/seasonal/store/etc. for cosmetics in the inventory

[plush fjord]

Imagine needing to stun someone to get kills lmao then cry when tis gone temporarily /s.

[plush sand]

please let us appear offline finals getting instant invites is really annoying

[merry totem]

Wonder if it would be doable/interesting to make jump pads so they can be placed down within a wider radius (like 5m out in front, for instance). One use case: when you're solo queueing with people who won't comm, you can still set them out in front in a place where they can more easily see and use them. Another: maybe some more interesting counterplay potential. Probably a bad idea, but it wouldn't change its existing use and might be a cool little buff.

[simple slate]

Why they change hud it takes up a lot more of the screen now

[blissful smelt]

Temporarily disabled the Stun Gun’ --> NICE.gif 👍🏻
🔸 Improved server performance by solving a server-related issue
🔸 Breach Charge - decreased priming time from 1.9s to 1.5s --> APPRECIATED 💪🏻
🔸 Frag Grenade - ammo count down from 2 to 1 ---> MMMH
🔸 Frag Grenade - damage reduced from 150 to 140 --> Unneeded NERF it was already weak
🔸 Added a headshot elimination sound --> REWARDING

The new HUD is VERY BAD revert pls

[cedar cave]

now i think i might get a lot of heat for this one BUT i feel like some gameshow events could be more noticeable, for example mega damage, in my opinion, does little to nothing, it could be tweaked some more, making the damage to the arena gigantic so for example a single AKM mag can break a wall or stuff like that

[frozen vapor]

why no tickets from daily contracts

[full inlet]

Tickets are done

[vague sorrel]

wtf kinda suggestion is this i aint never seen someone complain about audio before here

[pale hawk]

today there are so many guys with the good "Gaming Settings" they really need to add something to clean them more out its unplayable

[boreal chasm]

has Embark ever said anything about adding the option to increase your viewmodel FOV? I've been wanting that for like forever now and didnt see anyone ask about it in the QNA

[alpine falcon]

I think one more Contestant slot would be perfection, then you could have 3 presets for each class.

[graceful forge]

When making Contestant 8, spam click the button to make a contestant. It should bug out and give you a Contestant 8 and 9.

[vernal prairie]

i think they should really stop nerfing everything so much its getting ridiculous. its like how helldivers was. no one wants to play a game that keeps having everything interesting get nerfed so lights can run around with more impunity. heavy balances are some of the worst i've ever seen and have only made lights harder to deal with, i can't remember the last time anything lights had got a nerf except the cloak rework (which could be a me thing). its really dissapointing to see a game i loved so much turn into how it is now. like seriously, listen to the vast majority of people who are telling you to nerf lights. lowering the damage by 3-4 points on a few weapons and making them be more hit and run could do a lot for balancing in my opinion

[honest island]

Could you inform in the menu how many players are left to form matches, example 3/9
We could have a ranked mode without being a tournament, a ranked fast money, just 9 players 1 safe a single match to be faster
At the moment we have 2 ranked modes that are identical? The only changes to the rewards are the world tournament and ranked tournaments, one of which could have been changed for the same fast money experience as the game is quick and on the South America server the ranked modes are dead and have not been played since season 2

[bold vine]

There's no need to post the same feedback over and over. Thank you!

[hidden idol]

While FSR is far from perfect, having the 'native AA' option is the single biggest upgrade for me, it's by far the sharpest image of them all, it unfortunately has some flickering issues due to the use of FSR, however I still much prefer it over the other vaseline filters. Big thanks for bringing 'native AA' to the game.

[rigid shale]

cope.

[green field]

@rare spear Are you planing to improve matchmaking so that there are no situations where silver plays against ruby?

[raw blaze]

@bold vine rs.

Anyways! FSR is a great addition to the game but I am noticing some more artifacts due to the addition of such. I decided to forcefully add DLSS 4 into the game and I gotta say, while it's nice. I really hope there are a couple of more optimzations for when it is eventually officially added. I noticed that DLSS 4 performs worse but looks SOOOO much better than DLSS 3 so I just hope there is some compensation for the slight kick in performance. Nvidia Override isn't exactly the most "official" way of getting DLSS 4 to be in the game, but it's just a slight concern of mine that i'm sure will go great!

[blissful bridge]

I hope EMBARK keeps removing and nerfing content. That's going to really help bring new players into the game, while respecting the original fans of THE FINALS.

[brittle obsidian]

this idea is terrible but it means medium finally gets a new gadget so i approve

[kind crest]

Remove it 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[tulip steppe]

In menus, in main menu? What do these even mean??

[woven spruce]

UI update is a huge L, unchangeable way too bulky and no options to change it. Not even the size

[quick coyote]

Got an idea for the stun gun rework:

Rename it to the Taser
make it sort of a melee gadget where you need to physically press in into the player
you can copy the lunge mechanic from the sword (or not)
make it a single use and have a balanced cool down

This would help with risk vs reward:
you need to get in close to benefit from the stun mech
keep the same effects of the current stun gun
But you can still get bonked by a heavy sledge or barrel stuffed by a model

[silent fog]

I'd love to have audio, instead they fucked smth up and now I'm forced to listen to shitty voicelines for every action my character does + moaning every jump or landing I make...

[clever hawk]

Add directional audio to The Finals! 🔊🔥

Audible footsteps would be cool 💯

[wispy rock]

I dig

[lean tree]

• Fix the matchmaking. I get matched with ruby and full diamond stack while being 32k platinum player. (As a 3rd or 4th seed is crazy work, they are basically TOP 500 n you guys excpect us to go up against them? Every team just avoids them... it is just easy climbing for them and hard climbing for platinum players.)
• Fix the teammate matchmaking system!!! THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM !!! Almost every game I am getting matched with a Heavy who goes 1K/2A/6D on 1.3k Damage or a Medium who goes 2K/0A/6D with 2.0k Damage on ZERO and i mean ZERO revives. The whole point of this game is to play together AS A TEAM. But no matter when i Que. MY TEAMMATES WONT PLAY TOGETHER!!! I put on my mic and they just gonna fucking curse me out and being toxic yeah right hahahaha...
• Fix the map rotation. I don't know how you guys have this system working but please fix it or rework it. It is not hard at all just put all the maps as a percentage what you can get??? I am tired of getting Sys Horizon and Seoul THE WHOLE time and i LEGIT mean the whole time... ( We played a whole night didn't get Bernal ONCE but we got like Seoul fucking 3 times in a row and then Sys Horizon 3 times in a row???? how is this even possible) Bernal I've played like 4 or 5 times maybe this WHOLE SEASON up until now.
• Nerf sword please, i don't even feel like it belongs in the finals but right now it just is too strong. People who say add a third melee attack are crazy... I legit have a clip of ONE light sword players who catches us in the backline and kills 3 people with two dashes its crazy.
• THIS IS A BIG ONE!!! ADD CHAT FOR CONSOLE PLAYERS!!! If they don't have a mic they can atleast type something idc if it takes longer! Atleast i can discuss pre game methods with them than...
• BUFF GRENADE WITH TWO AGAIN AND KEEP THE DAMAGE ON BUILDINGS AND BUFF RPG!!!!!!

[robust oak]

Ban M11