#👂┇game-feedback

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winged wadi
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Embark - find another publisher besides Nexon, Nexon will strangle you and kill you to hell.

Need:
Solo dezmatch(for training with the ability to quickly respawn on the spot) ,
Normal costom games (We need flexible settings in the form of immortality, changing respawn locations, and fast recharging of gadgets!)
A normal paligon with settings for trekking, phreaking, and switching !!!!
BAY FACEIT ANTICHEAT NOW!!!!
Normal registration

Please give value to the money in the ranking that we receive during the match, let's say if you have accumulated more than 50,000 thousand, you would be given additional points in the rating

NERF 1900!! small nerf r93 (The sword seems to be normal, but the fact that it can pierce multiple targets at once is terrifying.)

naive gust
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Many friends I have made in this game have quit due to poor servers. The core gameplay is already great, of course there will always be room for improvements balance wise, but it's not the balance of the game that deters people. If when new players experience the game and it feels entirely unstable server wise, it's gonna leave a bad impression. Many new player friends thought this was a new indie game run by a tiny team. And experienced players constantly experiencing unstable gameplay will eventually wear down on them. It just feels unfair. Look at team fortress 2 as an example. The gunplay and movement is extremely punishing for new players, way more so than this game, yet it still feels FAIR and the servers are very responsive. Keeping a healthy cycle of new players every year. I personally feel like the gunplay and movement is fair in this game it's just unresponsive and inconsistent, although with it seeming like you guys are nerfing movement capacity I'm not sure how like that opinion is gonna stay.

night bone
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Remove wheel event from your mind...for ever

hard river
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that's how? 😄

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ember arrow
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Thing is though. Footsteps in whatever surround option are basically not hearable. There can be a guy right behind you without you hearing him properly. You can hear people in a rough direction but not up/down.

Other games have a fastly better audio quality than the Finals have

oblique sage
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I quite like the wheel event, one of the only time I actually have fun doing contracts.

worldly scaffold
# oblique sage I quite like the wheel event, one of the only time I actually have fun doing con...

Yeah I don't get the complains with that one, it is literally extra free things. Would people rather not have it?

Also the complain that you can't get the less rare ones with the free currency, you eneded up getting those pretty much anyway, and it wasn't really fair for newer players, who need that currency for unlocking stuff. In a fear of fomo, they would end up slow down their progression.

Regarding that, I think it would be good at this point to make all weapons available for new players, to level the playfield, I don't think it would overhelm them.

they would have more things to try and go for new matches, and unlock gadgets and sights at more pleasant speed.

You don't want to overhelm new players, I get it, but as it is, but you gotta ease down the difference between long time players, and new players, to more fair point.

EDIT: Also at this point, I think it would be nice to make old BP passes available to purchase and progress for newer players? Not sure how massive thing to add that would be, or how, but I think that would give more players more things to grind. Maybe slighter lower price, but without the extra coins? Just an idea.

Also, separate face and body paint, you know you want it too.

tired fable
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Hello Embark, I think your patchnote is good in the overall, here my update feedback

Shooting range : need big adjustements :

  • infinite time (for God's sake why it is limited)
  • add dmg range, %accuracy, spread informations,
  • targetCPU presets, short capacity CD option
  • make fire, vortex, goo, lockbolt work normally on dummies
  • possibility to choose different types of building and reset destructions
  • invite friend to shooting range and put friendly fire option
  • give us a cashout station, figurine mate

Items shop : leave us possibility to test your shop' skins , shooting, animations, emojing...
group : make possibility to join and give lead
random skin : let's have a random selection of favorite skins for our weapon like apex
Preset loadout/skin : can we save some preset loadout and skin plz?
Sledge lobby Pose : buff it, it was better before
Sight : Let us choose weapon sight before match
com wheel: add "sorry"
Team color : swap pink or purple into green, it's hard to make difference during high fight
Coin revive : make possibility to indicate "I will coin" when I am wiped

Dagger : make chargestab work like M2 throwing knifer

**Cerberus :**thx for giving Cerberus some love but imo it doesn't make any difference right now his biggest problem is his pyro effect, he should be easier to light up enemies to be more viable outside of his short range
Pyro grenade : 1 > 2 stack
Frag Grenade : 149 > 125dmg
StunGun : 15 > 22-25s CD
Vortex : give a throwing trajectory when hold M1
Turret : give a Turret health bar on UI to monitor Turret HP
Explosive Mine : 15 > 12sec CD / or / 2stack 20sec CD
GooGun : M2 need a alternative shoot, charging goo line ? idk
Whinch : revert nerf, range its terrible rn and it did'nt need a nerf

Skins ideas :

  • Nunchaku > Dual blade
  • Chancla > throwing knife
  • Axe > Sledge
  • more gadgets skins
  • more rusty/clunky guns
  • Guns design from Aliens movies
loud hemlock
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wheel is trash, "At EmBaRk We LeAvE tHe GaChA mEcHaNiCs To ThE oThEr GuYs"

fervent blaze
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where is dlss 4?

leaden shell
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embark pls do something about dagger hitbox im sick and tired of getting backstabbed from my face u cannot convince ever that is balance

upper citrus
sterile canopy
marble prawn
loud hemlock
# upper citrus Where did they say this? Also, why would you hate on free cosmetics? The wheel ...

So you should consider actually reading what I wrote, I didn't say "i hate free cosmetics" did I? No, I said the wheel is trash, which it is. That quote was back before they released this garbage for the halloween event. They used to just have challenges you'd beat and an actual special event, now they roll out lazy gacha trash that's coded to make sure people don't get everything through their unlocks - virtually nobody is unlocking all that for free. The wheel is objectively a gambling mechanic that preys on fomo, don't be dense.

torn plaza
slender girder
untold cypress
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Oh cool my four ticket fragments gets me another ticket fragment... by landing on the same item five fucking times in a row.

north beacon
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delete Kyoto

tropic snow
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Add match replay mode with features like free flying cam, slow-mo etc like fortnite did 7 years ago. It would highly benefit content creators and community/media growth basically means free ads for the game.

jade cloak
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Why do people want a sh1900 nerf? If you just slightly miss your shot, youre dead. If you need to reload mid fight, you're dead. If the enemy is further than like 5-7 meters away, you're dead. If there's more than 1 person, you're dead.

The weapon is already punishing enough (but satisfying) . What kind of nerf do you guys want? That heavy needs 3 perfect shots so you have to reload midfight?

naive gust
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Constant 3 team fights in world tour

upper citrus
# loud hemlock So you should consider actually reading what I wrote, I didn't say "i hate free ...

FOMO I agree. But it’s not gambling. You cannot spend anything to spin more. At worst the wheel doesn’t give you a few things and you have the option to buy what you missed outright or just keep what you got for free and be happy with that.

I would also argue that the wheel is way way more effort to make than their old LTMs that had random contracts and a gamemode that was literally just cashout with less items to use.

The model, animations, sfx, vfx, music, etc of the wheel is much more effort than “play the game without using x and we will give you 3-5 cosmetics.”

I’ve did the last wheel and I’ve done two days of this wheel and I’ve already gotten more cosmetics than every previous LTM combined for free. I am okay with the wheel

celest forum
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Buff flamethrower or fix mesh shield.
C&S nerf makes flamethrower feel useless.
Flamethrower+Mesh literally does not work without the ability to shield juggle.
Flamethrower mains are struggling out here.

loud hemlock
# upper citrus FOMO I agree. But it’s not gambling. You cannot spend anything to spin more. At ...

You literally spend your time to "earn" the right to a spin without the guarantee of getting everything, are you kidding me lmao stop defending fomo.

I would argue that if it was more effort to do the wheel, they would not be doing the wheel. They decided they wanted more money for less work for their events and that's why we have the wheel instead of specialized events, which i think the vast majority of people would prefer.

crimson moon
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kind of sad feminine/masculine voices are locked with faces instead of body type... I made an outfit i really liked with arch rival facce but it's locked to feminine voice...
perhaps they coulkd make a "voice" customization option?

reef zealot
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I miss winch 😢

lament sable
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Playstation is down😭😭 my world tour progress gonna suffer

marble prawn
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why am i getting brand new bad players im still bronze but the teammates i get are so bad

gilded arch
naive gust
sand hazel
nocturne nymph
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kk

upper citrus
torpid sky
spiral hemlock
twilit sand
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revert the animation cancel change

wind meteor
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People crying about a wheel of free stuff are PATHETIC. You don't like it? Don't spin it. There's not a single reason to be a cry baby about it. GROW UP.

If you're scared of that fomo stupidity, GO TO THERAPY, and then GROW UP.

frank jungle
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Nerf the fucking m11/xp and tk

quartz dirge
tight spoke
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I see last week everyone was having trouble with the 30m gadget challenge not working... Well now my Daily 'Deal 1,500 damage with gadgets' isn't tracking. Another broken challenge?

losing out on tickets if these dailies are broken

velvet latch
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Honestly, I kinda dislike the wheel. You can check in daily, get all of the contracts, and yet still don't get all of the rewards because you get shafted by RNG

frigid wasp
mystic pawn
quick coyote
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when the game is 10/10 but crashing

twilit sand
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fix these dogshit chinese servers

vital hollow
celest forum
dull bloom
potent wagon
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the more i play the wheel of love, the more i hate it. this RNG is fucking awful. i had a lot of respect for embark for not doing loot boxes, but this feels awful. i hate grinding for a contract just to get a duplicate. I specifically dont play games with loot boxes because its so fucking scummy.

@wind meteor you're annoying. im giving them genuine feedback about their game and what it feels like to play it. when they make good decisions, i give them money. the only power we have as a community is communication and voting with out wallets. im not entitled to say it feels like shit to play a game with the promise of a reward to get slapped in the face with a duplicate.

hot epoch
# hard river that's how? 😄

idk if anyone else responded to you because i aint readi alladat
but when you place a jumppad and someone uses it to fly off the map and die
then you get the kill for that

wind meteor
# celest forum Buff flamethrower or fix mesh shield. C&S nerf makes flamethrower feel useless....

then, man, try winch claw and goo grenades. I tried to understand your point of view and sympathize, but I really think it's a skill issue. everyone is using the flamethrower with a mesh shiel or a winch claw and it's going very well for them.

Heavies with sledge hammer are such a menace when using their shields, can you imagine another buff for the shield for them?
And Heavies using flamethrowers are very intimidating in any closed space or group fights, because it's the lowest skill weapon, deals a high amount of damage, can deal it to multiple people at once, and light them on fire... can you imagine a buff for those who are already really good with it?

@potent wagon don't grind for the ticket, and don't spin the wheel. Act as if it hadn't been added at all. You really didn't pay for it... Just grow up and stop being self-entitled. "I'm getting free stuff, but not all of it. I want it all, and now, and for free 😭😭"

mortal thistle
wind gulch
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no interest in paying to complete the wheel set bonus, would've bought a pack with all the items for a standard price but I can't get behind FOMO mechanics and RNG-based pricing. Much prefer the WYSIWYG items/bundles that don't rotate out.

worldly scaffold
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After playing a bit with the new patch (still I believe the devs are dropping the ball with overall Light bias), but some positives:
Lockbolt I have been testing, and I like it now, cooldown is pretty long, but the effect is good now.
Cerberus buff, seems better now, have to play more.
Earlier healing beam full health sound is great addition/buff. As a main healer, I love this change, small but significant. And I like everybody can hear it, including enemies.
Turret cooldown when picket up, now turret feels better pick than before, nice.
Again, Valentine stuff is great.

One thing, am I crazy but Dual Blades deflection from short range doesn't work? It feels broken now, it is weird.

Lockbolt changes interestingly are buff, and nerf to melee at the same time, have to see once more people start picking it up.

tight spoke
long arrow
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pls embark make available ranked for level 50-60 + only , its terrible like mates prefer play kd instead the goal of the game . its your ranked progression resume about kda delete your game.

& pls resolve your npcs animations skins who never work with the weapon when choosing . We pay your skin & that s wont work ingame your devs are terribles

lament grail
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With the PSN outage, I literally can’t do the dailies for the event, is there anything Embark has planned for this?

vestal basin
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FIX THE BUGS before releasing any updates or skins, just do it

sand hazel
# upper citrus Idk I’ve gotten more free cosmetics from the 1 and a half wheels I’ve completed ...

i do since the practice is scummy. its not about how many items you get its about the fact that now if you want everything more than likely you will have to pay for it. the point being made and the reason why people are upset isnt about how much items they are receiving its about the fact that the game is shifting into more and more scummy ways to make money since the player base is dwindling/not growing. i use to spend money on this game when i felt like i wasnt being forced to now i just get my bp and move on with my day as its not worth my money or time to invest more into this game as its trend goes down. they should have atleast kept it so we could spend vrs on some of the items if not all

upper citrus
mystic pawn
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For everyone who hasn’t got a lot from the wheel we still have 33 more chances if we complete all 3 contracts each day, almost no way you don’t complete it just thug It out and you’ll eventually get it all

crimson ledge
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embark bring back plug meta asap. Light had a role finally and now u took it and replaced it with shotguns for everyone

swift zenith
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Do the devs test anything before making the changes in the game?? Or is it just a giant rage bait

dense ocean
oak kernel
# dense ocean

Some people don't understand how slots/roulette works lol. I feel bad if you're the one guy this happens to 33 times

marble hearth
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I main word tour dumb ass

slate marlin
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I was shot in the head while holding my riot shield.

celest forum
loud hemlock
stuck forum
worldly scaffold
gray solar
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Can we please just fold World Tour into Ranked already? Have a win counter for getting the normal WT skins and then your actual rank that goes up and down with wins and losses. And then implement SBMM already. 90% of all complaints in this channel are from people just experiencing garbage or lack of SBMM and then being like "This gun is OP please nerf"

frank jungle
rapid stream
lament grail
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A better way to handle duplicates on the Wheel: If you land on a duplicate, you can pick a prize with the same rarity!

smoky gust
# lament grail A better way to handle duplicates on the Wheel: If you land on a duplicate, you ...

that sounds like a really good idea

im wondering, would it make sense to use the "amount of duplicates" thing we got with tickets for this?
like, 2 legendary duplicates for a legendary voucher
3 epics for an epic voucher
etc.

maybe making them usable on all tiers below them
it might end up making it a bit cluttered though...

this could kind of bridge the gap
youre way more likely to get everything, but since you need to get this many duplicates on specific rarities, you need to be active the whole event

quick coyote
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PSN is down and this is why we need the finals in offline mode with bots in private match

trail wagon
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mouse and keyboard to consoles

potent wagon
# potent wagon the more i play the wheel of love, the more i hate it. this RNG is fucking awful...

after giving it some more thought, (i still hate the RNG) but if youre going to make us do RNG event again (even though most of the feedback ive seen about it is negative) then maybe let us use our equipment XP currency thingys to buy extra rolls. 99% of the time, that currency just sits there and does nothing, why not let us put it to use? you guys have alredy said that contract rerolls arent great because they are designed to be challenging in certain ways (and im sure they help give you data for specific testing purposes.) AND the contracts have a tendency to be pretty buggy. so why not just let us get some extra rerolls or even just outright purchase1 or 2 specific items that we want. that way you can reduce FOMO, it will still drive engagement and give players and incentive to play, but it wont lock the players into playing with certain gadgets/guns/ect... and allow us to play how we prefer while still getting rewarded for it.

@oak kernel i know, that was the point of the original post. this is a lootbox event....

full dragon
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yup, we gave feedback complaining about the wheel in the previous event but they still reintroduced it

versed hazel
keen lily
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why is the searching for world tour games taking so fucking long, it's not like it needs any kind of complex matchmaking come on

lime lark
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Can someone explain why im going against ruby stacks as a team with 100k total rs

oak kernel
naive narwhal
quick coyote
grand halo
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hey guys, just checking in to giv you your daily reminder that the servers are dogshit ❤️

surreal meadow
warm compass
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dear Embark : you buff sowrd dash range while you nerfed claws range why you always nerfing things its not broken ?

old crypt
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Please give the wheel event another week in the game since us. PlayStation players are dealing with this massive network error right now. Almost 24 hours since it first happened

ebon isle
stuck junco
finite torrent
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Wall running, no balls

cinder elm
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Everyone: "fix [insert weapon here]" 🤓

fix the god damn matchmaking!

whole power shift match, doesn't give one more player on my team. did getting into match in progress break or something?
soon as someone leaves, it's over cause game just doesn't give you new teammate what so ever

  • just played against 4-stack club players (even their names were the same). of course, we got stomped, cause they obviously play and stay together

not to forget that it's impossible to win any QC game. played whole day of QC yesterday and won NONE of the games. how is that encouraging to play?

it has become so frustrating to play the game this season, it's mind boggling

outer jetty
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When bots for normal matchmaking, Good enough that i'm Silver~Gold Stuck and i'm fighting aganist Diamond/Emerald. How can this happen?

  • World Tour:

Why players like me, Have to fight against 2k hours players just because i perform well. I get it, There isn't alot of players and either good or bad all together. Causal players or not. BUT The rank exists to show where you at. Not where you fight because the matchmaking tests you consistently. If i'm silver or gold, AT least place me normally against ONLY golds or silvers depends how close i'm to ranking up.

Winning streak and then a loss. Sounds better then Losing streak then win and then lose streak again. I feel like Ranked Tournament is better off playable (kinda) then world tour, I do want to get Plat or Diamond items but it's impossible when you fight Diamonds or Emeralds because they are groups of people in discord. And i'm solo.

Talking about "solo", It's not fun or enjoyable solo, Because you see other groups are due or trio, How is this fair? Let me play only solo with others who want to solo. But i get this part as well, No enough players. But that's why i started to talk about bots. This is also what fixed matchmaking for other games who have bots. But making a bot that knows how to play and do tactical moves like all players do. But this can be limited to what ranks can have bots or don't have bots. Because most of the players are in those ranks don't need bots. But the ones who are blow rank Gold get bots but when there isn't enough for plat. then add bots when it's needed. Also helps players are far away from the majority of players at EU or US.

I also get the problem making bots for this game. It's overwhelming for bot thinking system when everything gets destroyed, They need to create a new AI/Nav pathway.

Anyways. The matchmaking is troublesome. And makes me feel don't want to play the game until the next season maybe.

quick coyote
lament grail
versed lotus
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add avoid as teamate

green wharf
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I'm glad you brought back the wheel and have added a system for duplicates and I love the free rewards but it sucks when you get enough duplicates for an extra ticket and then the extra ticket gives you a duplicate making it 1/4 again.
I have a suggestion to fix this problem: When you get 4 duplicates the ticket it gives you is a special one that guarantees you a item you haven't obtained yet.
Thanks again for making this amazing game.

cloud rain
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I was looking for some frame data of the game and i can’t found any
Im really surprised that the finals got patch note datail but not a single frame data bank

Like i was looking for something like “after how many seconde the scope of the sniper become accurate after i press aim”

And i can’t found it ???

So i can’t know if i can press aim for 1 frame and shoot on the second frame and be sure that my bullet go straight forward from the middle of my screen ???

old crypt
naive narwhal
surreal meadow
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crashing bug occured in ranked

(same bug since S3 btw)

only thing thats different, is that it switched me from my heavy build to my medium build

ebon isle
grand halo
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post-slowmode timer reminder that the servers are dogshit

slender girder
rigid shale
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duo queued into world tour just now and didn't get any 3rd teammate shrug

fleet meadow
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FK THIS TIMER. WE GOT WIPED AND NOW WE WAITING FOR 600 SECONDS TO RESPAWN, WADAHELL

topaz token
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Bug report: I just had a WT game, where in the final round, I switched zip line for frag grenade, and it also changed my specialization from Dematerializer to healing beam, which is the default that I have equipped on that class normally, but I had swapped at the start of the tourney. Also, I’ve been having an issue where my loadout will revert to default between rounds instead of keeping what I had swapped to

rugged temple
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Light loses almost every ttk duel, only has 1 spec that isn't completely dependent on the opponent's lack of skill and has historically been excluded from meta team comps for a reason. Lights have many objective based utility, with gateway being arguably the best objective utility in the game. The issue is that they are at an intrinsic disadvantage from the fact they have less health, but their damage output isn't equal to the health lost. Medium and heavy simply provide more value since they don't require the opponent to be worse than you. You have given 0 logical reasoning, simply stating that lights have 0 objective play, which is completely untrue, then calling me biased for stating facts. Awfully hypocritical of you.

tropic snow
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Game has been crashing 2-3 times each play session since update
Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION 0x00007ffe00000000

storm tide
woeful nebula
inner ravine
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would be cool to see a gamemode where u can spend the coins you've earned with your team

crystal umbra
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I still haven't been able to purchase a new game system yet but since we are having a tournament is it too late for the finals to experiment with creative ways to kill and setup kills?

I mean, like allowing for unique gadgets interactions that could make "smart plays" more powerful than just using the guns?

Maybe generally move the game in the direction that allows for gadgets to be more incorporated and useful in fights across the board?

I didn't like Nukes when they were used on me but when I used them myself that opened a door to image how creative the finals could become.

That door has since closed a bit and I'm wondering if that way of thinking could be incorporated again into the game.

I don't know, I'm just thinking.

wise jolt
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am i missing something? all contracts are now done with 40 days left in the season. i loved thursdays because that meant getting new contracts but now idk whats gonna happen

stuck forum
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Embark, I’m begging you to make VR’s accumulate faster.

To anyone who wonder’s why, make a new account, and experience the complete lack of player agency regarding weapon choice, gadget choice, and somewhat, specialty choice.

Yes, you can use any item in the practice range before purchase, but i feel as though many simply don’t engage with UI enough to find this, and this isn’t broadcasted anywhere in-game.

If I were a typical gamer getting into a supposedly neat game I heard about once or twice, I would absolutely get turned away by how slow and tedious unlocking items is. I and many others could tell right away that this game was special, and pushed through the VR’s slog, but please, reevaluate how fast new items can be unlocked.

exotic quartz
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Finally some rational thinking. I couldn't agree more with what you've stated.

patent wind
craggy mason
outer jetty
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Nukes should come back with an event for those who miss Nukes.

  • I'm just an old timer for closed beta/open beta/season 1, Missing the outrages things back then was.
quick coyote
rapid stream
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Vegas is a good map…

kind peak
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Let me jump when stunned <3

outer jetty
versed hazel
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replace every gun with goo gun

charred delta
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btw Bernal still banned from the maprotation for over 3 weeks... but hey - i know every single pixel of Monaco at least.......... since season 3... >__>

versed lotus
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buff every weapon to 1.5x dmg buff every cooldown to half and add second c4 back, also revert spawn & cashout changes

zealous mural
# rapid stream Vegas is a good map…

it's not. too many close space fights, too many small trash shit on the map, you are getting stuck all the time. the only 3 shit maps in this game is kyoto №1, las vegas №2 and sys horison №3(mostly due to the visual hurting your eyes). first two are unplayable.

rapid stream
versed hazel
dreamy ore
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serious problem with the Demat. After the last update, the wall transparency effect take action but The wall is not removed.

barren hare
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We still have "eliminate 10 players in a single match 3 times" challenges, they're awful for everyone especially if they end up getting only 9 many times in a row, we'd still rather have any other challenges but these that force you to try hard

shell urchin
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Anyone having problems with matchmaking ? Can’t queue ranked, tour or QC

rigid shale
raven cairn
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model 1887 its a joke, useless shotgun, developers you r ruinning the game with this nerfs men, wtf, you nerfed the heavy and medium class!!!!??? lights are more broken than ever!!💩

quick coyote
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Tracer bullets that can be equipped to any gun we need that, and custom reticles colors. I'd like to have a blue dot instead of a red dot! MUCH LOVE EMBARK

visual pulsar
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So light r intended to be used as a scout class that can assasinate single ppl with burst dmg, the only gun that can do it without getting destroyed is xp54 imo,because medium having ak,fcar and famas with 250 hp is crazy,lights have mostly 0 chances to do it. And while u have ability to scount with the specialization u can do it outside only in big areas,and u cant scout in close spaces like buildings for example,because either u face a medium or heavy and u get destroyed for sure.

In S1 there was wallhack gadget for medium,tbh I liked it very much and the tweaked version of it wasnt that broken tbh.
Why not give light class that wallhack specialization,it would help them with the scouting ability in closed section and additionally find isolated targets to elliminate.

PLS ADD WALLHACK SPECIALIZATION THAT WAS ON MEDIUMS FOR LIGHTS,aswell as giving grapple a second charge because although cooldown is low its still doesnt feel better alternative than dash or invis

And adding pure deathmatch(ffa) would be great addition!!!

signal cosmos
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I really like the WT stage. I hope the bombs are gonna stay as the ne Dead go boom

alpine pebble
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the model animation of reload when you do a quiqck atack reset every time

lapis elbow
mossy karma
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Remove one round from ranked games
It's so boring to waste 20 minutes just to earn 3-10 rs just cuz 2 teams decided to team up against u in 2nd round

storm inlet
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balance is so bad good job buffing heavies for no reason at all

crude burrow
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List of improvements to the practice range:

  1. Adding L/M/H character models to the range to properly test equipment and combos.
    I cannot winch claw a mannequin.

  2. Unlimited ability cool downs in the range (cause why not?)

  3. The ability to go to the range during queue, many other games have already applied this concept.

  4. Allowing friends to enter the same practice range as you. Option to turn off friendly fire. (Host only)

brittle obsidian
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rework winch, dash, and invis then the game's perfect

nova osprey
devout grotto
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using model for fun and it is really weak. Its ok against lights but holy its a meme weapon now. Kinda fun in a masochistic way 😁
I agree death squid. That gun takes skill to use. Its way slower than the cerberus. Needed that 13 dmg it had.

sonic arrow
hushed sand
surreal kestrel
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We've been getting this quite too often, third teammate DC's right on the loadout screen and we don't get a replacement for the whole game, I never quit games, but got tired this one time and left the match leaving a 2 teams match, meh

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brittle obsidian
woeful nebula
#

World tour points need to be higher. At least for 3rd and 4th place. But also, points should be easier to acquire. Currently, making it through diamond is an absolute crawl, and I can't imagine how long it will take to do emerald. Spending 20-30 minutes for just 6 world tour points is so frustrating.

narrow belfry
#

For the 100000th remove invisibility out of the game or remove the ability to stand still and be completely invisible im sick and tired of the absolute insanity of how much of a no skill class light is, legit just spamming invis & LH1 I’ve been able to win multiple ranked games even against ruby this is actually bonkers

craggy mason
# surreal kestrel We've been getting this quite too often, third teammate DC's right on the loadou...

I'm one of the ones. On casual cash out I disconnect if one of my teammates is a sniper.

Sorry but playing 200 m away from your team cherry picking kills that have no effect on objective just isn't helpful enough to be on a team with them. Would rather just find a new team

Will also disconnect if there's 6+ lights in a lobby

@narrow belfry I agree about removing cloaking device, at least from casual. But wholeheartedly disagree about the bit about no skill. Even using invis well requires skill. Maybe not as much skill as other things. The entire class requires a lot of skill not to just end up as free kills for everyone else

flint breach
#

The wheel is not random and I think it's pretty crappy that yall want to treat your fans like this.

obsidian timber
#

These heart bombs are absolutely dumb

brisk tangle
verbal bane
#

Dear Embark Devs:

Please add "Ping" to in-game performance stats overlay 🙏

drowsy vector
#

The exploding hearts in WT should have been a temporary event like low gravity or something. It’s sooo annoying to have it with each kill/death

versed cloud
#

Why does evasive dash get caught on literally the smallest piece of environmental prop all the time? Why hasn't this been cleaned up yet?

tired fable
teal bear
# craggy mason I'm one of the ones. On casual cash out I disconnect if one of my teammates is a...

Can you explain the thought process of leaving quick play mode ,where winning doesn't matter and its essientally practice, (winning doesn't matter anyway its a game). Like you literally only waste your own time when you do that. Why not just play the game and get better and be someone that can carry. If you want to play as a team so bad get some friends or do an LFG. the snipers need a place to practice that's not world tour or ranked. Like by your logic you are a WORSE teammate because you literally left the game (can no longer contribute at all) because someone didn't play how you wanted them to. Seriously asking for a thought out response here. Again this is quick cash

midnight quartz
#

the new balances are strange idk why they nerfed everything

glass veldt
#

goo gun nerf makes me sad

surreal kestrel
devout grotto
#

Embark with the quick melee nerf and nerfs in general those were all high skill weapons it makes no sense. (Im sure model was good for pros but generally that gun takes more skill in casual use)

quick coyote
#

The amount of people leaving world tour matches is getting annoying asf

quartz dirge
#

Nerf Pike -dmg + firerate OR -firerate + recoil

tranquil garden
#

I just miss Bernal in world tour. I REALLY wish bernal was in the map rotation instead of kyoto, f that map. Although I gotta admit the winter version where the water is replaced with ice makes kyoto much better

shell urchin
#

Why are queue times so long right now, waiting 7 mins on Eu and can’t find a world tour ??

dull trench
#

The wheel of love feels more like wheel of masochism with there being no bad luck protection. It's 2 days in a row that i only had duplicates, that is infuriating not fun.

hearty bough
rugged cedar
#

Embark, It's 2025. It's season 5! We still don't have PING DISPLAY! OCEANIC servers have micro lag or lag, that we cannot verify (ex: 0,5s for a sniper shot or hitreg. Quickscope doesn't work maybe my mouse is too fast for your game). Please put this in place. THANKS!

sonic arrow
#

can we fix the bug where sprinting keybinds refuse to work?

cerulean breach
#

idea, we need to see enemy player cards at the end of the match, not just our own team

brittle pilot
maiden shell
#

Stop making melee pathetic.

Sledge:
Heavy attack 200-> 210
Light attack 115->125

Spear:
Spin 105-> 120 and remove the third spin or make it input based.
65,80,90->85 flat

Riot shield:
Light attack 90->90
Swing damage is okay, swing speed needs to be increased slightly Like 10%. Increase hitbox registration.
Special attack
Blocking is great and all, but there's almost no reason to block when you can passively block so let's lean into that. Be able to slide and jump while blocking. Slide blocking basically makes you unable to take damage unless very neich angles or AOEs.

Duel blades:
Light attack 50×2, 60×2, 70. -> remove third hit, standardize damage to 55×2 per input.
Special attack deflect-> add headshot multiplier, fix deflect hit registration

Sword:
Light attack 74->75
Special attack charge 140->150

Dagger:
Light attack 50->unchanged
Special attack 320->350 if they backstab a heavy they are gonna do the quick melee anyways so it's a small QOL. Also decrease backstab angle by 15° so you cannot be backstabbed with you back against a wall no matter what.

wispy sand
#

Stupid high idea:

To force objective game play, make active cashouts generate a field that if you arnt within 100m+ of the cashout all damage is reduced by 50% or something, 75%.

That way it forces objective play and people chasing around the map have tickle fights. Will make the bad lights play near objective at least.

jaunty vapor
plain quiver
#

Please Nerf Lights , Dmg on Weapon , Dash , Vanish one of the following shoud be nerfed. Very annoying gameplay when u Aim and Light start sliding around u, its not even about Aim, or even more he is one cliping you cus he sits in the corner like a fking plant.

limber nexus
analog fog
#

ya'll need to fix the cerberus's utility, it consistently glitches out and won't get rid of gas or goo

young hamlet
radiant reef
#

Hello! I suggest adding the information about the current week stop in World Tour's main menu, as there is no option to replay the intro video or read information about it, except on socials. Would be nice to click on the weeks and receive information about them. Currently clicking on them does nothing.

odd prism
#

There are a lot of whiners after each update here, but I’m here for a list of cosmetics I would like to see (maybe)

  1. “wolf cut” hair style.

I personally NEED this to exist, specifically in a darker colour, and would be amazing for a long hair that doesn’t cover down to centre mass.

  1. more “cell shaded” clothing

I personally missed season 3, and generally love cell shaded cosmetics in games. Weapon skins would be great to have “cell shaded” cosmetics for.

  1. more animal cosmetics, specifically mythical creatures.

Imagine running around with a unicorn horn… or having a fairy on your shoulder. I think that there is practically unlimited potential with this.

  1. face wear that effects the nose.

Simple, clown noses. That’s it. Would be funny.

Thank you

analog fog
#

it feels like the devs are just farting into chat GPT and pushing the result as an update at this point. Nowhere have I seen commentary about the state of the sniper rifle. Embark be like: lets buff something no one has talked about whatsoever. Does player feedback mean nothing unless you're a light main?

fiery tide
valid sleet
#

add dual deagles throwing knives skin (either interpetation is fine)

cobalt snow
#

please add presets for the contestant skins. for the amount of customization you can do i wish i could change things without the hastle of going through 10 different options

devout grotto
#

considering alot of the nerfs made no sense this last patch I can only assume it was to create some kind of meta shift I guess. Can we buff things instead of nerfing if this was the reasoning. Having a weak model 1887 isn't interesting it's just lame. Model does about 75 damage max now which is more than half what the lights double barrel does and comparing medium to light power difference that ratio isn't balanced at all

languid valley
#

Game is riddled with bugs, poor server performance, poor regular performance, hitreg issues, poor game understanding from the balancing team and i open game feedback to see people just asking for skins.
friend

narrow belfry
maiden shell
#

Stop making melee pathetic.

Sledge:
Heavy attack 200-> 210
Light attack 115->125

Spear:
Spin 105-> 120 and remove the third spin or make it input based.
65,80,90->85 flat

Riot shield:
Light attack 90->90
Swing damage is okay, swing speed needs to be increased slightly Like 10%. Increase hitbox registration.
Special attack
Blocking is great and all, but there's almost no reason to block when you can passively block so let's lean into that. Be able to slide and jump while blocking. Slide blocking basically makes you unable to take damage unless very neich angles or AOEs.

Duel blades:
Light attack 50×2, 60×2, 70. -> remove third hit, standardize damage to 55×2 per input.
Special attack deflect-> add headshot multiplier, fix deflect hit registration

Sword:
Light attack 74->75
Special attack charge 140->145

Dagger:
Light attack 50->unchanged
Special attack 320->350 if they backstab a heavy they are gonna do the quick melee anyways so it's a small QOL. Also decrease backstab angle by 15° so you cannot be backstabbed with you back against a wall no matter what.

next timber
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Just get rid of light all together, come up with something different. Light is the least skilled class. Tell me you are bad at the game without telling me you're bad at the game by playing light. Highest DPS, fastest reload,fastest movement, invis, fastest ttk. If they're going to be this op they should be one shot by everyone else, bring em down to 100 health and see how many of the kids that suck at the game stop playing light. Light is a crutch for people who can't actually have a fair fight in a game

arctic matrix
#

Please revert or rethink the “nerf” that requires manual action animations. Some weapons feel awful to use now. I understand this is just something I have to adapt to but its such a pain

green spoke
acoustic heart
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u have a whole map , how do u know where they are gonna come from if they can go invis , dash , grapple , or shoot u from away with sniper bow etc weapons ?,
also regarding the sound , with all the sound clutter u cant really focus on the light when he is invis , u hear commentators game SFX and all that , when u hear the invisibility cloak its either too late or just lucky, sorry that idont have a 150$ headphones to hear the light specifically

gritty mortar
#

Light is not broken

mortal ridge
fresh oriole
#

if the sound is better ingame we would have countered them easily. u cant hear the light when the sounds of the game go beserk. so pls fix the damn sound so we could hear all the stuff going on+ fix the damn commentators stupid talking all on average the game would have been better

gilded hull
#

day 1 of asking for model nerf to be reverted
@brittle obsidian angryhowie what the freak mane

brittle obsidian
#

day 1 of asking for them to double down on model nerf

raw swan
#

Can we have a tactical bucket hat? Like a boonie cap but bucket hat

left jetty
#

Can we please stop placing players in a game that's about to end in 1 minute. It's made even worse now that we have to wait to hit a quit button. What's the point of making annoying time wasting changes.

maiden shell
#

Stop making melee pathetic.

Sledge:
Heavy attack 200-> 210
Light attack 115->125

Spear:
Spin 105-> 120 and remove the third spin or make it input based.
65,80,90->85 flat

Riot shield:
Light attack 90->90
Swing damage is okay, swing speed needs to be increased slightly Like 10%. Increase hitbox registration.
Special attack
Blocking is great and all, but there's almost no reason to block when you can passively block so let's lean into that. Be able to slide and jump while blocking. Slide blocking basically makes you unable to take damage unless very neich angles or AOEs.

Duel blades:
Light attack 50×2, 60×2, 70. -> remove third hit, standardize damage to 55×2 per input.
Special attack deflect-> add headshot multiplier, fix deflect hit registration

Sword:
Light attack 74->75
Special attack charge 140->145

Dagger:
Light attack 50->unchanged
Special attack 320->350 if they backstab a heavy they are gonna do the quick melee anyways so it's a small QOL. Also decrease backstab angle by 15° so you cannot be backstabbed with you back against a wall no matter what.

torpid sky
jaunty tulip
#

Nurf cns

surreal brook
#

i play since beta and i am honestly more disappointed than pleased with this season. Those new spawns just make the game (even more)unpredictable. Third partying alone is not fun to deal with but people using coins and u dont know when they will arrive because they could spawn 50 meters away or 250 makes it pointless to wait for them or dumb to not to. Same with Team spawns. Sometimes you wipe a team and they just spawn between you and the cashbox. Without a wipe penalty of 30% it was already encouraging enough for teams to play reckless deathmatch and now its even worse. - So if i would suggest somehing to improve the game is making spawns not that random maybe rework the coin system ( like a self revive combined with a warning for the other team that a coin was used) and enhance the overall clarity so that you actually realize getting third partied before its too late. Give us a ping to warn the team or make an automated voice that tells us that a cash is fought around by 3 teams - new map looks awesome btw.... Another thing i would like to talk about is the rock paper sissors system which does not work if you cannot switch the loadout. Cheesy stats either suck because they get countered or work way too good because other teams dont bring the counters. But nobody knows what the other teams will come with so its just based on luck wether you have a fair fight or not. (Not speaking about casual modes, just in ranked it does not feel esports-like with a system like that

quick coyote
#

imagine already having a limited map pool and do tour with only a few of them per week... k

true gazelle
#

Hey guys, loving The Finals, seriously an awesome game! Any chance we could get a private match or deathmatch mode? Would be great to play with friends, practice, or set up small tournaments without randoms.

I think a lot of players would love it, and it could bring in more people, especially competitive players and content creators. Any plans for something like this?

Thanks for the hard work, the game’s a blast!

honest verge
#

Goo has changed for the worse since the latest mid-season patch. It doesn't seem to be breaking after cc'ing someone and this causes my chase w/ sledgehammer to suffer. Also, it doesn't appear to be affect the movement of cashout the same. It is difficult to nudge it off of a moving platform by shooting goo next to it. As a frequent sledge/goo gun user these changes are bad for QoL

last saddle
#

Yeah... The wheel was a fun idea in theory, but in execution its absolute misery getting those remaining items. Instead of a ticket fragment, it should remove the gained item from the wheel if landed on multiple times.

fervent hull
tidal saffron
#

Heavy should get a sniper cause that'd be cool

terse yarrow
#

NERF LH1

jolly island
#

Just played an entire match of powershift where it was 3v5... after +5 minutes, the game NEVER autofilled the other two spots.
This is exactly how NOT to make the queue software.

valid cradle
#

The wheel is so fucking bad I can’t even begin to wrap my mind around why you would bring that back. But then again, you are embark so it’s pretty on brand really…

outer jetty
#

When bots for normal matchmaking, Good enough that i'm Silver~Gold Stuck and i'm fighting aganist Diamond/Emerald. How can this happen?

  • World Tour:

Why players like me, Have to fight against 2k hours players just because i perform well. I get it, There isn't alot of players and either good or bad all together. Causal players or not. BUT The rank exists to show where you at. Not where you fight because the matchmaking tests you consistently. If i'm silver or gold, AT least place me normally against ONLY golds or silvers depends how close i'm to ranking up.

Winning streak and then a loss. Sounds better then Losing streak then win and then lose streak again. I feel like Ranked Tournament is better off playable (kinda) then world tour, I do want to get Plat or Diamond items but it's impossible when you fight Diamonds or Emeralds because they are groups of people in discord. And i'm solo.

Talking about "solo", It's not fun or enjoyable solo, Because you see other groups are due or trio, How is this fair? Let me play only solo with others who want to solo. But i get this part as well, No enough players. But that's why i started to talk about bots. This is also what fixed matchmaking for other games who have bots. But making a bot that knows how to play and do tactical moves like all players do. But this can be limited to what ranks can have bots or don't have bots. Because most of the players are in those ranks don't need bots. But the ones who are blow rank Gold get bots but when there isn't enough for plat. then add bots when it's needed. Also helps players are far away from the majority of players at EU or US.

I also get the problem making bots for this game. It's overwhelming for bot thinking system when everything gets destroyed, They need to create a new AI/Nav pathway.

Anyways. The matchmaking is troublesome. And makes me feel don't want to play the game until the next season maybe.

@torpid sky, They are the DMR for Heavy :)

torpid sky
#

nerf deagles range, it shouldn't melt anyone from 100m away

next timber
# green spoke Bro u can easily counter light player using glitch mine or Rpg or flamethrower a...

I'm using glitch, they never hit them and they just run by while invisible and back stab or hit me with the double barrel Melee combo, but it makes absolutely zero sense to buff the sniper while nerfing medium and heavy by the time you finally hear them it's too late, it's not fair to have a class designed to fight from distance when every other class has to be within a certain range to be effective

wide void
# valid cradle The wheel is so fucking bad I can’t even begin to wrap my mind around why you wo...

bringing back the dogshit wheel, even with its marginally better chances, has singlehandedly made me decide to never give Embark another dollar for anything ever again.

V @nova osprey it's not free if it's RNG, genius. I dislike FOMO and I dislike cosmetics you can only buy with microtransactions, but where I draw the line is offering paid items with RNG. It's completely possible that you could get every single ticket and still not have every item, but other people could get lucky and get them all. That's not just predatory, it's unfair. Don't fall for it.

maiden shell
#

Stop making melee pathetic.

Sledge:
Heavy attack 200-> 210
Light attack 115->125

Spear:
Spin 105-> 120 and remove the third spin or make it input based.
65,80,90->85 flat

Riot shield:
Light attack 90->90
Swing damage is okay, swing speed needs to be increased slightly Like 10%. Increase hitbox registration.
Special attack
Blocking is great and all, but there's almost no reason to block when you can passively block so let's lean into that. Be able to slide and jump while blocking. Slide blocking basically makes you unable to take damage unless very neich angles or AOEs.

Duel blades:
Light attack 50×2, 60×2, 70. -> remove third hit, standardize damage to 55×2 per input.
Special attack deflect-> add headshot multiplier, fix deflect hit registration

Sword:
Light attack 74->75
Special attack charge 140->145

Dagger:
Light attack 50->unchanged
Special attack 320->350 if they backstab a heavy they are gonna do the quick melee anyways so it's a small QOL. Also decrease backstab angle by 15° so you cannot be backstabbed with you back against a wall no matter what.

versed cloud
#

Respawns are way too slow in quick cash. Makes the game stale

oak sorrel
#

Gotta get some team mates to revive you :)

nova osprey
drifting acorn
#

get me teammates who can match my freak

half briar
spare topaz
torpid quarry
#

Team respawn proximity check is broken on skyway stadium

coral axle
#

BAN THE CHEATERS!!!!!

dreamy garnet
#

EMBARK PLEASE STOP GIVING ME LEVEL 10 NOOBS IN WORLD TOUR WHEN IM LEVEL 72

nova osprey
# wide void bringing back the dogshit wheel, even with its _marginally_ better chances, has ...

That doesn’t make it any less free, just because it’s RNG. It is not predatory because it’s what dozens of gacha games do, but we never call those predatory. It’s unfair, but so is life, and everything else. Nothing is inherently wrong with this wheel, the only reason you complain is because you don’t get what you want, but if you really want it you’ll pay, otherwise just accept that it’s rng

native helm
#

I genuinely wonder what the intent of the recent balance changes is - I can't help but feel that the direction that things are going is more frustrating than anything, especially if you want to play something like e.g. Heavy

If you essentially giga buff Light in melee range (by continuously nerfing things that keep it in check), you should also raise Heavy's short range options - without reaction times things like the double barrel are just plain stupid, and none of the Heavy Specializations feel good to use anymore.

Spawns in Power Shift are a massive issue on certain maps like Monaco, where you can spawn entirely in the open without any counterplay options, and organized stacks can just abandon the platform after a "checkpoint" and farm the spawntrapped team until the game ends. yay, fun. - you might say "but it's a casual mode", to which I must answer: then don't turn it into a mode that makes the casuals quit the game.

jagged vector
jolly island
#

@jagged vector
Should be 3, AND the extra ticket should be a special "item of your choosing" ticket!
I had a similar experience.
Just got my entire daily 3 tickets in a row that didn't yield an item... I only have 6 items out of 20 so far.

This is an absolutely garbage wheel system.
My suggested "player's choice" recycle system or a one-ticket-a-day (with time to get them all if you play each day) AND every ticket is guaranteed not to have repeats would have been reasonable systems, but this is just insulting.

This feels like a cash grab with a gacha mechanic to add a gambling tint to bolster sales.
It easily could have felt more like a nice event, with a means to purchase the cosmetics early OR if you missed some because you weren't/aren't going to be able to play.

wide void
# nova osprey That doesn’t make it any less free, just because it’s RNG. It is not predatory b...

"We never call [gacha games] predatory?" Uh, I guess you've been on the wrong side of the internet, then? And just because "erm life and stuff is unfair" doesn't mean we have to artificially add unfair systems for no reason?? Making it so these items may never return just adds the chery on top.

What's so hard about making it so either 1. you are forced to buy everything or 2. you can consistently get every item for free if you put in the time and effort? Plenty of other games have had successful monetization without locking items out permanently based on RNG.

@spare topaz I know. I'm not saying they can't monetize the game. I'm saying they shouldn't do it by giving out items at chance.

maiden shell
# native helm I genuinely wonder what the intent of the recent balance changes is - I can't he...

Stop making melee pathetic.

Sledge:
Heavy attack 200-> 210
Light attack 115->125

Spear:
Spin 105-> 120 and remove the third spin or make it input based.
65,80,90->85 flat

Riot shield:
Light attack 90->90
Swing damage is okay, swing speed needs to be increased slightly Like 10%. Increase hitbox registration.
Special attack
Blocking is great and all, but there's almost no reason to block when you can passively block so let's lean into that. Be able to slide and jump while blocking. Slide blocking basically makes you unable to take damage unless very neich angles or AOEs.

Duel blades:
Light attack 50×2, 60×2, 70. -> remove third hit, standardize damage to 55×2 per input.
Special attack deflect-> add headshot multiplier, fix deflect hit registration

Sword:
Light attack 74->75
Special attack charge 140->145

Dagger:
Light attack 50->unchanged
Special attack 320->350 if they backstab a heavy they are gonna do the quick melee anyways so it's a small QOL. Also decrease backstab angle by 15° so you cannot be backstabbed with you back against a wall no matter what.

Your post made me think of my copy paste I made

granite agate
#

Nerf uhhh nerf uhhh nerf uhhhh

versed hazel
jolly island
#

I keep getting powershift matches over and over and over that only have just me or 2/3 people and NEVER autofill til the whole match ends.

vital hollow
#

Please add a Stim shot like gadget in for Lights. (“Energy Drink” & you can use the drinking animation alr implemented) The initial burst when activated can regen 30-50% health at animation end & slowly regens the remaining healththefinals

candid badge
#

can we get a season where light isnt sucked off? maybe instead of constantly nerfing everything u buff instead? perchance we could just get rid of dagger too?

@quartz dirge whats ragebait about it? its my feedback?

fleet socket
#

Season 6 Wishlist

  • Make the requirements to earn experience for gadgets in game, instead of just saying gain exp on use. (Ik the wiki has experience breakdown but it being in game would be better)
  • Customizeable sights, let us choose the color/shape of red dots and other sights
  • Better custom games, at least an option to pick the team we wanna be on
  • Console is able to see text chat, even if we can't type into it
tribal spoke
#

Please remove the dual blades combo and replace it with flat 55/55 damage slashes

fiery osprey
thorny lynx
#

Can we please turn the Anti-Cheat back on? Or is this ever going to work
@maiden shell Not in Halo, never played it.... but I have definitely come across you in game here many times haha

shut kite
#

its never going to work, since the game is free-to-play anyone can get in easily even if they update it from time to time

maiden shell
ivory patio
#

I kinda wish the faces that are inanimate like dashboard skidmark, multi mood mask and the new valentines face had voices that change based on male or female body type instead of a set voice

proud skiff
#

really dislike the sa1216 rechamber cancel nerf you have to be touching distance to use it anyways at least speed up the animation speed a little

deep cedar
#

please for the love of scotty make the flamethrower penetrate even at half damage please i beg

honest siren
#

I don't know what crew you were trying to please with the new respawn mechanics in quick cash, but as a long time player, these timers are terrible. The respawns happen so quick that you will likely die respawn and return to the same vault 4+ times because nobody can make any progress, as soon as you get done fighting one team the next team has already respawned and shows up.

its impossible, just show up fight mindlessly and then die immediately to the team you beat before you died.

patent wind
modern ether
#

Since guns seem to be difficult to balanced in a way to please everyone, how about we focus more on fixing server lag, server disconnect, optimization, and spawns, cause I been seeing alot of problems with that and see many people sharing their concerns. yesterday I legit watched 7-8 people disconnected in high elo lobby and myself got randomly disconnected. Not by my internet, but from servers

@patent wind I agree, melee isnt really that bad, and we shouldn't be focused on increasing one shot capability when light along with other classes have more then enough, maybe even too much

foggy pelican
#

Quick suggestion that would really help console players
Console has a lot of input delay compared to PC, and we physically just can’t mash buttons as fast as PC players, like there would be so many times where I’m using the pike/Lh1 and my trigger will just get stuck and I won’t be able to shoot
So I think an “automatic fire” option for controller would help, it wouldn’t automatically give us the fastest fire rate, however it would give us a fire rate that would allow us to be able to enjoy guns like the LH1 and V9S without worrying about input delay or mashing

tribal spoke
#

Please remove the dual blades combo and replace it with flat 55/55 damage slashes

misty jasper
#

bRING BAck thorwing Card Knife skins

jolly island
# tribal spoke Please remove the dual blades combo and replace it with flat 55/55 damage slashe...

Why 55, is there a reason to put it at such an odd number?
All classes' hp is divisible by 50, there's no damage drop off, no class has over 500hp so there's no benefit to 10% more damage other than maybe to even further downgrade the benefit of healing (which is already nerfed into the ground).

If you're gonna stack more damage onto it but still require a 3 hit kill on light 5 hit kill on med, and 7 hit kill on heavy, why not give it 58dmg a hit?

If you want it to be more reasonable against heavy but stay the same number of hits against light/medium, why not put it at 59 so it kills light in 3, medium in 5, and heavy in 6?

If you're wanting it to be better against med and heavy but stay the same against light, set it at 63 a hit (light in 3, med in 4, heavy in 6).

@nova flower
Ah, makes sense now.
Is quick melee only 40dmg?
God, that's hideous.

TBH, quick melee should be 50 even.

nova flower
solemn sedge
#

Add amethyst skins
More elevators on new maps

shut lava
#

just dropped a last second steal in ranked due to lag/rubberbanding/stuttering. this game has not run smoothly at all for me since season 2 and it is so annoying it makes me not want to play. any freaking tips on fixing this lame issue?

distant vine
vital hollow
#

Please add a Stim shot like gadget in for Lights. (“Energy Drink” & you can use the drinking animation alr implemented) The initial burst when activated can regen 30-50% health at animation end & slowly regens the remaining healththefinals

umbral swift
#

@tribal spoke

  1. Stop spamming.
  2. Dual Blades doing 50/50 instead of 55/55 is on purpose. Both swings happen in a single click near simultaneously. It only taking 1 click into a Quick Melee to kill a full HP Light would be OP.

The only melee that can do that is the Sledgehammer, and it’s only allowed to because it is on the class with the least mobility, has extremely slow animations, and trades the safety of Dual Blades’ reflection for more damage and destruction.

Being able to do the same with a far faster weapon on a class with more base and equippable mobility both and also the ability to not only nearly nullify most types of ranged damage from one direction, but also reflect it back at the opponent to deal the full damage to them instead would be OP.

robust crest
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Don't know how or where to thank the devs. the latest update fixed the healing beams display I can actually see when it's about to overheat. Thanks for the amazing life service!!

lament depot
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why did you bring the wheel back

fierce valve
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Good patch, 8/10

polar spire
#

give riot shield more lunge or swing speed.

vivid narwhal
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People complain so much about lights but honestly they’re not so awful. I’d say that all they really need in terms of nerfs is a damage decrease on M11 and maybe a slight need to cloak

warm silo
#

Can we make dupe tickets give unique items 100% of the time

modern ether
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sword and dagger are legit a joke, light has too much speed to be doing that much damage in one shot, and to those who says light isn't used in high rank cause its bad well I'm in high rank and I see it everywhere. daggers backstab hit box is extremely iffy you can be facing them at all times and they can still get a back stab and one shot a medium, and sword can fly around the map and one shot people before you can even see them. the main issue with light is that gadget combos with the weapons are too strong, dash and invis make melee and shotgun impossible to beat 90% of the time because the game, physically makes you unable to react, either dash makes it so they are on your screen for a total of 0.3 secs or invis makes it so you cant see them at all before its too late, and yes I know that's the point "invis" but combine that with one shot guns and it makes it impossible, and before you say it not light doesn't need it cause they have 150hp, there are ways to keep lights speed and peak/shoot style without giving them one shots, look at the model and how everyone didn't like how medium could two shot people and do damage from absurd ranges, that's been lights main issue, they give too much to a speed/poke build, plain and simple. their other weapons have too much range aswell, but thats a whole other thing.

@spice stag I was diamond las tseason and have fought rbuys and diamonds many times but go off kid

@warped stag its not a brag, im just saying people claims about no lights in high elo is bs

another sad thing, the second you say anything about light people will dog on you with remarks instead of no real counter point

solemn fulcrum
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Man shak-50 does a little too much damage in close range

fickle linden
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-feedback

spiral lightBOT
#
Feedback channel FAQ

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umbral swift
# modern ether sword and dagger are legit a joke, light has too much speed to be doing that muc...
  1. Sword and Dagger are melee in a game full of ranged threats that can also simultaneously come from multiple different directions
  2. Latency and desync is literally unpreventable
  3. If it didn’t matter what a player saw on their own screen because it only goes off the screen(s) of the player(s) on the receiving end, that’s horrible game design because a player literally cannot know what the other player is seeing, let alone if there’s multiple enemies who would all be seeing different things, “favor the shooter” system is the lesser evil compared to “favor the victim” system
  4. Sword can’t one shot any class, Light is lunge+quick melee even at fastest, killing any other class takes a lot longer than a one shot
  5. Glitch Trap shuts down Dash and by extension, Dash-reliant weapons
  6. Dash doesn’t have i-frames, shoot them where they end up, if you’re really good, you can even do it mid-dash
  7. Invisibility is extremely loud and makes massive shimmers if the Light moves even a bit fast
  8. Sonar Grenade/Tracking Dart/Proximity Sensor reveal regardless of invisibility
  9. Glitch Trap cancels invisibility and prevents reactivating specialization/using Vanish Bomb
  10. Model 1887 did obscene damage with extremely tight spread from far longer effective range (maximum range before not enough pellets hit that shots to kill number will change) than any other pellet shotgun on a class with 100 more HP and also shots to kill that wasn’t equal to 100% of its magazine size for M/H, it’s not comparable to a shotgun with effective range of 4-5m, only 2 shots, and requiring both to kill M/H on a class with 150 HP
  11. Invisibility isn’t invincibility/untargetability
  12. Put mines where they have to go through to reach you, have to go around, eat it, or set it off from destroying it, alerting you anyways
  13. Put jump pad in doorway or a room, it’ll screw up melee movement
  14. Put turret on ceiling to whittle melees down if they want to get close enough to hit you let alone fight
spare topaz
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Please the hit registration is so bad dude. Buff servers.

west trellis
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Why with the secret goo gun change? Giant blobs feels bad

past spire
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Im convinced the Quick melee patch was a sneaky meta-shift tool. There was no talks of this happening, it’s been a function in the game for 5 seasons / over a year now. The patch notes didn’t even label it as a balance change, but instead a “Bug fix”. There was no dev note explaining the reasoning, which just is baffling. It was an interesting tech and a rewarding habit to form on several weapons, unfortunately most of which were some of my personal favorites to use. I mained the model since the beta, and the ks-23 since it was released. The model 1887 received a total 22% damage nerf over the past season or so, which is insane. I felt that during season 5, the game was possibly in the most balanced state it has been to date.

Right now, I hardly even want to play it. More and more bugs/glitches keep piling up and the weapons just get nerfed and nerfed into the dirt. Sometimes I can’t sprint. Sometimes my character is visually on fire for an indefinite amount of time. Sometimes the floor /wall is broken and destroyed, and i still collide with an invisible wall—literally nothing. Gunfire audio plays on loop. These things have been around for entire seasons, they’re not new either.

I absolutely love the gunplay in the finals, this is the first pvp game that’s kept me hooked and engaged since tf2 in its prime, or black ops 2 on the xbox. Landing crazy flicks on people, dematting a wall to flank, bhopping off a jumppad zipline combo, Slam dunking to oneshot a light, etc. its all so much fun, but I really am feeling sketchy as time goes on.

tough merlin
# modern ether sword and dagger are legit a joke, light has too much speed to be doing that muc...

Go play sword & or dagger then come back. Sword literally only one shots other lights (oh wait i was wrong its melee+sword), So i'm not sure how that's an argument you can make coming from what appears to be a med perspective.

Invis barely functions if people are moving as it is. If you can't see an invisible person when they're moving that's on you lol. Ill also add you have access to motion sensors & while im adding that here you also have access to glitch mines use them.

Dash is fine. You as a medium have 250 more hp then a light, you want the light to fight you head on with a 100 hp disadvantage?

Also yeah dagger hit reg is wonky but so is the entire games hit reg that's not a dagger issue that's a game issue that does need to be fixed.

replying to the below messages @modern ether Yes you can die quickly to sword but it only takes up to 7.5 shots to kill a light without any headshots. Lets compare an equal weapons a sword can kill you in two shots. A model can kill a light in two shots. a revolver can kill a light in one shot & a melee. a pike in 3 shots (or two head).

There are weapons just as strong on medium that can kill a light just as quickly as a sword can kill you. both players can kill each other when they get in a confrontation its up to both sides to use there advantages. a sword gains the advantage if they can get within range a gun has to advantage if they can keep range. Either they're running invis in which case they can get closer to you slower but harder to see, or they're running dash which they'll get close to you quickly but its on you to see them coming. if they're running invis then they aren't nearly as fast. Use jump pad, use zipline, use demat, jump out a window all of those can gain you enough distance to where they're out of range. If they're dash keep your head on a swivel you need to see them before they get to you.

Same applies to them if they get blindsided they're equally dead.

modern ether
# umbral swift 1. Sword and Dagger are melee in a game full of ranged threats that can also sim...

see thank you actual feedback. Ok you make good points but I dont believe in either favor the shooter or victim I just think in a confrontation, where both players are full hp and have everything at their disposal, both should be able kill each other, I understand melee has to go up against alot of range, so therfore I understand the damage like back stab dagger, and sword 140 charge, but glitch is only useful for that one scenario, and its especially hard to use when they nerfed it to one every few seconds, and that is one of the very few counters to the dagger and sword combos. Yes they dont one shot, but with their speed, they can do 140 and by the time you get all shots needed to kill them you are already dead, thats when I mean one shot, they do the damage so fast, your dead before you are given the ability to do something about it, and Im talking about scenarios where you arent in buildings, even outside you cant run from it, and its hard to react. Because, yes invis makes noise, but the sound priority's in this game are extremely bad, majority of the time all you hear is the crowd and explosion's far away, gadgets sounds 99% of the time get over shadowed by the rest of the game sounds, there are times when a light was right next to me invis and I heard 0 noise, all I heard was gunfire, the sound effects of cash outs being cashed/stolen and running from my teammates, and yes it makes simmer you can see, but even that isnt 100%. I can think of many times a light goes invis I see the shimmer, and then I lose it, and not cause of poor eyesight or display, I even looked back after taking footage, the simmer just doesnt show up, and in those few moments, a light can either, get away, get behind to backstab, or get too close and can do the previously mentioned fast damage and kill me. (Im running out of message space). If i can I will post a video im what im talking about, and how that invis or dash moment makes it so I cant do anything, ive got more to say just wa-

wicked pond
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Need a battlepass aps skin

teal minnow
misty jasper
modern ether
teal minnow
indigo quartz
maiden shell
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make melee work through a dome shield. i dont wanna feel like an idiot swinging at nothing when the enemy is 6 inches away

vital hollow
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Add face creation.. these default faces have always been so mid😣

slate tapir
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After 5 seasons, the developers decided to reduce the damage of the slam. Why? For what? Nice nerf update 🤙 (no)

slow root
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The only complaint i have is where is the dialogue when a game starts? Like when we load into world tour or into a ranked match before the match starts. Scotty gives dialogue about the map we’re gonna play in. But in this update there’s no dialogue at all

red knot
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matchmaking is still a completely miserable piece of crap

signal basin
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I just lose a poweshift at 4vs5. THE WHOLE GAME.

Embark, your game is dying ! Hello ?!!! Wake up !!
Pay some streamer to do the job ! I'm begging you !

How a casu mode can't be full when it's a 5VS5 ?! HOW It's possible !?

gritty grotto
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please add RR denoiser!!!! and AMD FSR 3.1 (NOT 3.0) Frame Generation thingamajig!!!

tacit skiff
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The fact that they removed the bypass of manual action animations just ruined the winch/KS-23 Same for the model you ruined it, reconsider your decision it's been several days since I played the game. plus the nerf to the Winch Just rubbish

analog hearth
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I can't believe they added that stupid wheel of fortune again. After all the negative reviews. What's the point of it if it only brings frustration? I only get duplicates. I have 11 out of 20 open rawards, and now I only get duplicates. What's the point of 4 duplicates giving you another ticket if you get a duplicate again? I've already got 7 duplicates in a row. What's the chance that with this kind of luck I'll get all the awards? None. Stupid scam. Thanks to the developers, now I'll have more time, because now I won't have to waste it playing this garbage.

boreal mirage
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embark, never do a wheel event ever again

distant vine
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cerberus needs a massive nerf. revert wht ever the fuck this shit is
also. never bring back dead go boom. bunch of fucking idiots at the balance team and the game design team

slender girder
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Are the spawns messed up or sth? Keep spawning with enemy teams very closing 3v1'ing me

fair shadow
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Controversial:
Remove contracts that require destruction points.
It ruins PowerShift matches. Every other match there's a Heavy sledgehammering buildings, not playing the objective, making it impossible to get to the platform, ruining the game for at least 4 others who eventually leave.

sterile canopy
cunning spruce
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got a duplicate after only 2 items and another at 5... absolute garbage rates for the wheel whatever

errant rune
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To hell with your wheel of fortune, today is the 3rd time I'm getting the 4-piece ticket.

distant vine
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whats a skill issue? bombs blowing up randomly?
or the fact that cerberus does way to much damage?
get real for fuck sake.

unique seal
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i started the world tour to play before 2-3 weeks it means at season 5 and now im in emerald 3 but these recent days my random teammates are newly started at playing for example in a match i had a teammate his first match as he started the game was with me he doesnt know nothing about the game i confirmed it with the card that shows after a match ends so this makes my gameplay hard this not happened to me for just one or two times i faced this problem many times so anyone tell me any solution plz

worldly scaffold
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namaheart Lockbolt, I love it after the patch, so much fun.

thorn nebula
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hear me out, a FINAL progression tier for weapons and equipment, mirroring the final tier for badges. you can make the xp requirement like 500,000 or something insane.

scarlet jackal
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Kyoto destruction update fells bad, because of constant building collapse I constantly have stutters and server lags

terse yarrow
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Add impact nade and make rpg do more destruction damage.

Buff melee.

Please bring back 10m winch.

Nerf lh1 magazine.

Thank you Devteam. hug_friend

eager shard
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Sword is bad cause of server performance, full hits go unnoticed. okay I'll use the gun instead, oh Im dead to a sword who 1 tapped me if only the game worked when I do that

vivid saffron
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Never seen a company so wildly incapble of balancing its game and classes. Melee is busted due to hit reg, it's a complete guess on what's going to hit you. Every casual lobby is just filled with lights and you continue to encourage it. On your next 15 week holiday please give some thought and into considering that these things are less than optimal to possibly consider the idea that there c
ould be a chanceof addressing it...around season 8. Instead if changes to the damn lockbolt or LH1 changes that mathematically do nothing

sterile canopy
thorn nebula
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Here is a mock up of what I think the final progression tier should be, an amethyst skin for your gun or gadget. something that really drives home how much you've used the item. you can make the xp requirement something crazy like 500,000 xp, it would be a good fit because we have 9 levels currently, and putting it at 10 would be nice and neat. it would give an incentive to grind your loadout. I'd imagine it would increase player retention, I don't think it would effect world tour or ranked player count that much, emerald or diamond skins will still take far less time to get. so it wouldn't diminish the prestige of ranked rewards as a whole

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distant vine
drifting thistle
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when kill cam?

rancid sorrel
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Waiting for autosteal specialization for M orf_pfff

jade cloak
# drifting thistle when kill cam?

Copy and paste from a random reddit thread

Kill cams in other games aren't really a video or camera that shows you what happened. Its coordinates in the 3d space which is then shown to you as a video this works because the environment doesn't really change much. Because near everything is destructible for The Finals to show kill cams it would need to record the past state of the map at all times so that it can place those coordinates in time showing what happened. Otherwise if it showed you what happened when you died but didn't save the map state it would look really suspicious as people shot through walls that were blown apart.

hard shoal
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I don't think you should be penalized for leaving the game when someone on your team has completely left the game

tribal rampart
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Lower your debuff durations.
Stungun should only last like 3 seconds, and glitch effect of any kind lasts way too long as well.
Same as defib sickness, you get punished so hard for somebody else using it on you.
Half hp, no gadget or specs, predictable time when you spawn and loud - you make one gadget really weak but then you have gadgets like nades who annihilate teams, and are basically good for offense and defense.. especially to prevent steals
Also your lockbolt change is wack, you have 0 chance to escape other than them missing. If it hits you are instantly stuck and you can forget about breaking it cause it has too much hp and in a fight you can't just dump an entire mag into the floor...
Soo much more that you (embark) don't really get...
Pike should never have received a dmg buff, you could've adjusted the visual recoil or firerate or mag size or range or whatever, but dmg immediately breaks it again.
Also fix goo again asap, you can't break it every update and think it's fine to not fix for weeks.
Also invis didn't get mentioned, and neither did db. Stungun needs a rework sure, but you also left it as is regardless, you can nerf the duration and still work on a rework you know?
And invis as well as so so so many aspects of the game pretend like every player has perfect vision. I can't see every lil pixel moving when a light player dips away, and then you let them have db with rewards them for your bad eyesight, and you get close and 1 shot.. yay...
If things are fun to play for one side but absolutely miserable for the other, then you need to change things
Rant over, except.. fix your scam wheel. The duplicates giving ticket parts is a nice idea, but that resulting ticket should never be allowed to produce another duplicate! Ever.
Love but also dissappointment.

winged wadi
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**Embark - find another publisher besides Nexon, Nexon will strangle you and kill you to hell. **

Need:

  • Solo dezmatch(for training with the ability to quickly respawn on the spot) ,
  • Normal costom games (We need flexible settings in the form of immortality, changing respawn locations, and fast recharging of gadgets!)
  • A normal paligon with settings for trekking, phreaking, and switching !!!!
  • BAY FACEIT ANTICHEAT NOW!!!!
  • Normal registration

Please give value to the money in the ranking that we receive during the match, let's say if you have accumulated more than 50,000 thousand, you would be given additional points in the rating

NERF 1900!! small nerf r93 Sword trash...

bold vine
visual wave
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Disheartening to still see people complaining about the event wheels, no pun intended. I mean c’mon, the event just started, and we’re getting more tickets this time around. If you miss out on the rewards, that’s kinda on you, not the event. That’s the point of an event like this, to incentivize regular and non-regular players alike to play, try their luck, and unlock stuff.

@lethal bear
😔 oh… I just assumed, my b. That’s kinda lame

dreamy ore
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Sometimes demat doen't remove the wall but the transparent effect take place, making a invisible wall remains there.
When I get stunned with the pistol while using Cerberus shootgun, I cannot shoot my gun

covert pewter
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My game crashed three times consecutively now. Twice because I died and once because I broke a window
This should not be happening

scarlet jackal
rough veldt
brave plover
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how this community crys about the wheel event, you guys get free stuff just for bit of luck, if you dont get all things or double some items, who cares, get your free stuff and stop cryin

drifting thistle
green spoke
distant vine
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buff winch, it should have 20m+ range. thats what it was made for

delete stun gun. i dont care about these shitty devs ''reworking'' the stun gun. if i know anything its gonna be more cancer than before.

flamethrower should go through mesh and dome shield.

winch should have a 1 second stun. as when i pull someone in. they can shoot before me. how is that fair?

buff the damage on the flamethrower. litterally cant keep up with any weapon in the game. everything out DPS it.

lights main running speed should be lowerd.

light should not be able to be invisible while running.

yeah im tired of light getting everything they need to shut down everyone. but heavy gets nothing but nerfed.

pastel widget
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embark there is an issue with the stun gun, when i ads as the bigfoot skin i cant see the iron sight can u guys look into that?

unreal epoch
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I just want Animation Cancelling back on Model, that's all I really want

sharp pawn
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You absolutely need to remove rank icons in ranked games. I understand that there aren't enough players, but having such a huge rank disparity in a game is just unbearable. A team of Ruby players in a Platinum lobby simply doesn't play the game. All the other teams press TAB, see the Ruby icons, and do everything they can to avoid them. Ranked has literally turned into quickcash past 35,000 points. Everyone avoids the Rubies, and we constantly end up with three teams on the same vault and the same cashout. Either fix the game's disastrous matchmaking or remove these ranked icons in-game.
Thanks

tacit whale
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Add prop hunt and infected to private lobbies 🙏

quartz dirge
maiden shell
# sterile canopy none of the melee weapons are especially viable choices, what would hit reg have...

Stop making melee pathetic.

Sledge:
Heavy attack 200-> 210
Light attack 115->125

Spear:
Spin 105-> 120 and remove the third spin or make it input based.
65,80,90->85 flat

Riot shield:
Light attack 90->90
Swing damage is okay, swing speed needs to be increased slightly Like 10%. Increase hitbox registration.
Special attack
Blocking is great and all, but there's almost no reason to block when you can passively block so let's lean into that. Be able to slide and jump while blocking. Slide blocking basically makes you unable to take damage unless very neich angles or AOEs.

Duel blades:
Light attack 50×2, 60×2, 70. -> remove third hit, standardize damage to 55×2 per input.
Special attack deflect-> add headshot multiplier, fix deflect hit registration

Sword:
Light attack 74->75
Special attack charge 140->145

Dagger:
Light attack 50->unchanged
Special attack 320->350 if they backstab a heavy they are gonna do the quick melee anyways so it's a small QOL. Also decrease backstab angle by 15° so you cannot be backstabbed with you back against a wall no matter what.

This is my melee proposal so they can be more viable

jade imp
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So are the servers just broken forever? Every single game I'm in is just filled with flashing red symbols constantly. 250mbps download speed, solid ping everywhere ibtest my internet. Solely this game and its consistently the server error symbol

distant marten
#

lh1 balancing ass

distant vine
wintry oyster
#

The Dead go Boom like Event really destroys World Tour for me

Also, why the hell did you pump up arena damage for Kyoto - it literally makes the whole map experience worse
especially with the new event
unplayable

old falcon
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I personnally love the wheel, collected everything in the last halloween event without spending mulitbucks. But I need to vent. I already had 10 duplicates since the start of the event and only 8 items (I used all the tickets from day 1 of the event) what are really the odds ?

slender girder
pastel widget
gritty rampart
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Please. PLEASE, Embark. Optimize the fucking game. I cannot play this game for more than 30 minutes-1 hour due to the amount of stuttering I experience. If you put half the effort into optimizing the game as you do putting some of the most bland shit in the store i've ever seen, then it might be playable. MIGHT.

valid sequoia
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Is it just me or does seeding versus rank reward make no sense whatsoever?

If I am seeded 5th and then finish 5th, I'd expect little to no rank change since the team has performed "as expected" - instead you end up with rank losses often between -400 and -600.
I'd expect the rank loss/gain to pass through (or be very close to) 0 at your seeded position.

Having 4 games in a row where you are seeded X and finish X but lose ~500 is just demoralising and ruins the game a bit

solemn fulcrum
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fix your effing servers, unplayable dogsh*t

fading flame
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Make the winch claw a slower projectile weapon just make it its original again

young turtle
#

Once again, I present thee my Skin Ideas:

Glow in the Dark skins (Similar to Arcade Carpet/Luminous Riot. Really hoping for this one. Pattern could be from Truth-Tunnel Jumper sleeves, would be fine & easy imo):
FAMAS + Defib/Jump Pad
LH1 + Glitch Grenade
Shak-50/SA12 + Barricade

Sticky Situation 2/Stick Around
Throwing Knives/V9S
Spear
Dual Blades

Argon Glow 2
R .357/Riot Shield/HealBeam
Sword/M26/Bow
Akimbo/MGL/Barricade

Wave Interference 2
LH1/Glitch Grenade
AKM/Jump Pad
Akimbo/Lockbolt

Charmalure
The rest that doesn't have it yet lol

Rubix Cube for Grav Cube
Vinyl Player for Lewis Gun
Bucket of Ice Cream/Chicken for Gravity Vortex (Switch is a chicken user bites into or a spoon that they bend)
Hot Potato for Fire Grenade
Burger Joint Mascot Costume with a Burger for a head
Another Death by Rodent outfit(Slipknot inspired with a mask) with Drum Sticks for Dual Blades (Inspect is air drumming or something)

sterile canopy
# valid sequoia Is it just me or does seeding versus rank reward make no sense whatsoever? If I...

And if you’re seeded 8th, you should gain RS no matter what, and loose it if you’re first? If you’re seeded fifth then you aren’t guaranteed to disqualify on the first round - the chance that you do is likely above 50%, but not so much that it would skew the loss / reward to pure reward, that’d be extreme. Intensifying it would make it much slower for players to reach their “true” rank, which would be unhealthy for the system as well.

Also, it’s possible to be seeded 5th but have above average RS for the lobby - if the worse teams had much worse RS to pull the average down harder than the ones above you pulled it up

fervent furnace
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Heavy Char are totally BROKEN REMOVE THIS SHIT FROM THIS GAME, 350 HP AND FLAMETHROWER WHAT IS THIS SHIT?

digital yoke
#

Give us ability to bypass manual action animations BACK
its so ass to play without it

jade imp
young dome
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Thanks for destroying model 1887. Since the new “update” the gun bugs out. Quit fucking with the guns bruh or people gonna quit

valid sequoia
rustic vault
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Wish there was a way to message your friends when they aren’t in the lobby, seems pretty pointless befriending people when you can’t even communicate to set up matches unless you are both not in game and in the same lobby.

full field
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game always crushes like that wat can i do

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signal basin
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Update after patch 5.8 :

For the game

  • Increase the netcode/tickrate/servers. Getting kill at 3m far from a hammer/sword or behind a wall / door / cover is not ACCEPTABLE. In this condition, playing Light it's like playing a H but with 150HP. Servers can't register your movements !
  • Perma ban toxic players and cheaters
  • Let us choose our sight weapons at the beginning of a game
  • Let us go in practice with friends please
  • Delete low gravity event. It's not fun at all
  • Fix events appear in front of the scoreboard
  • Random skin and charm list for weapons/gadgets
  • Add a TDM mode 5v5 in small arena
  • We shouldn't lost point in ranked when a team mate leave the squad and didn't play during the round
  • Let us invite friends or join them in group even if we are not the group leader
  • Add the possibility to look at the profil/card of friends
  • Patch the level up bug on weapons at the end of matches. It's been here since many months now
  • Dash is trash with your netcode. Servers can't register a dash behind a cover and you will die anyway
  • Give us the possibility to customize rules in private match
  • More Limited Time Mode (LTM) in the game please or more XP event.
  • Let us use our VR for XP weapons or other things (not from me but very interresting idea !)
  • Remove the 5s leave. It didn't change anything

** For balance **

  • The Sword buff was not necessary in 5.8
  • The FAMAS nerf is useless in 5.8
  • The CERBERUS buff was to strong in 5.8
  • Playing Light in your game is not fun at all. Charge, RPG, Frag nade, Cerberus, Magnum, everything got faster TTK than anyway weapons of Light. Except SH who need to be a 3m or less WITH 150HP class
  • Buff Light survability or DPS. Light should be the DPS class but the game is always around Medium and Heavy class
  • If you don't wanna nerf the grenade frag damage, add an indicator or make them more visual
  • Nerf a bit Deagle damage or range
  • Nerf Shak damage a bit
  • Buff XP54 damage
  • No more dmg on hook. It's nonsense. If hook do damage, stun gun should do too !
  • Flamethrower and hook should NOT get you through walls or other.
  • Nerf the right clic + Dash on Light. You couldn't dash with your sword or dagger charged
  • Kill, Assist, Revive and Objectives points should add more points in ranked
  • Spawn are still trash. You can wipe a squad on vault and they will respawn on the Cashout waiting for killing you. But after get wipe by them, YOU SPAWN AT 100M and MORE
  • Rework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive more safety !

I will always post this now and add some changes time to time

azure arrow
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Can embark pls make kbm available on console

brisk glen
#

Bro don’t be so sure,
Light mains are really that dumb most of the time.

vague sorrel
#

aren't lights supposed to be like scouts instead of running solo into a whole other team trying to kill them

untold hazel
#

i just got into a quick cash lobby whit everybody being lights i love the finalshug_friend

potent wagon
#

here is your daily rant about the shitty lootbox mechanics for the event

dark niche
fervent furnace
#

Too much hp, should be 150 200 250

analog hearth
#

things that I get for free? do I get them? Or do I not get them because I get endless duplicates, which encourages you to buy what you did not receive. This is called a scam

hearty bough
quartz dirge
twilit sand
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After the massive ks-23 nerf last patch it needs something to compensate. I suggest removing the random spread to be consistent with other shotguns or allowing it to headshot to be consistent with other projectile weapons. A 1.25x headshot multiplier would be perfect. Landing headshots is already rng as even when crouching, not moving and aiming it doesn't have 100% accuracy.

long burrow
#

are you stupid ticket collection ends in 9 days that means 27 tickets not 45

fading kite
#

Can they stop making me re-download the whole game after every update

bold vine
fringe schooner
plush sand
brisk glen
warm silo
#

I’d still consider it a scam if it wastes your time for nothing

ebon isle
plush fjord
# rugged temple Light loses almost every ttk duel, only has 1 spec that isn't completely depende...

"they are at an intrinsic disadvantage from the fact that they have less health"

  • Highest average TTK of weapons
  • Shotgun that two taps a heavy.
  • Meelee weapons that can gain the most advantage from server lag and desync
  • Best stealth options in the game (thermal vis, smoke grenades, invis, invis grenade
  • One of the best breaching gadgets (thermal bore and breach charge)
  • Best intel ability (sonar nade)
  • Best transportation and movement abilities in the game
  • Only sniper in the game, which allows for long ranged fights from the user's side in a game dominated by medium to short range fights.
  • Smallest hitbox.
  • Most versatile and flexible loadout in the entire game
  • Easiest class to dodge bullets and overwhelm enemies

Yeah you're right, meds and heavies are stupid to complain about lights, they have so many advantages to their hand but still just because of having low health they're completely weak.

"You have given 0 logical reasoning"
Where's your logical reasoning for saying you don't need the opponent to be worse than you when you play med and heavy? And that you need the opponent to be worse than you to win when you're a light? You're telling me an emerald light will lose to a med or heavy below emerald? Do you realize how stupid you're sounding rn? There's not much to lights either. Half of the light community (exaggeration, in case it wasnt obv) gets kills by pressing a button to go invis and pressing another to half-immobilize their opponent, only to two-tap by sh1900 and kill their opponent.

It's simple. I already stated all its advantages. And what's the disadvantage? Less health. That's it. Whereas a sword light with evas dash destroys lobbies and same goes for any other light that uses its abilities right.
Before calling someone hypocritical, use real logic and reasoning.

junior igloo
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make winch 16m and remove the stun effect and make it so u cant shoot while pulling

tribal spoke
# umbral swift <@488866722338701322> 1. Stop spamming. 2. Dual Blades doing 50/50 instead of 55...

Sorry, it wouldn't be near instant nor would it be op. Lights have plenty of utility and movement to escape it. Even a dash light could escape the combo WHILE getting hit. Also the dual blades can absolutely do this to the light, on the second attack (Or if they take chip damage)? For some reason. Heavy, while by default having 0 mobility or utility to catch a light has winch, which is used even by Diamond/Ruby players to great success. Medium has no such thing.

tawdry vortex
#

Please can we stop with the stupid randomized rewards, I hated it the last time and I hate it now. Now you can't even buy them with VRs.

old falcon
pastel cypress
#

I hate this wheel
What happened to normal challenges and not gambling

river wind
#

Random piss role alert.

-Improve the new player experience. Grinding vr takes a while and a new player might be deterred from that. Allow them to unlock 2 or 3 gadgets and 1 gun for free on all classes. Or let their first 10 to 20 matches have a 200% vr bonus.
-Allow us to see what gamemode friends are in.
-Add a text chat to clubs.
-More private match customization.
-Allow consoles too see text chat. (I take it they will be able to use it when mnk gets added back)
-In game ping and framerate counter. Will help with reporting freezes crashes etc.
-Balancing (very scary alert) rather keep drastic nerf and buff changes for season release and mid season updates. Guns should slightly be buffed continuously.
-Not being to buy items from the wheel with vrs is an L, buts its understandable. A certain amount of duplicates, eg 5, should allow us to get any selected item for free.
-Crossplay off should put Playsation and Xbox players together. Will improve the que times.
-Able to save custom outfits

Remember to feed the server hamster hug_friend (It's hard to stay positive, Embark, but I'm intrigued to see where the game goes)

ebon isle
dark niche
# plush fjord "they are at an intrinsic disadvantage from the fact that they have less health"...

-most light weapons require a lot of skill to use well
-the db requires an immense amount of skill to use and you usually aren’t two tapping a heavy w it
-the sword…okay sure fine
-invis has a lot of hard counters and is super easy to see if they’re moving
-yk what…demat is a spec not a gadget ill give you that I GUESS
-prox. sensor is arguably better than sonar
-best movement to make up for having…not a lot of health..⁉️
-the sniper isn’t even good, and the pike might as well be a sniper (but actually viable!!!)
-small hitbox to make up for having little health
-light has only self-advantaging specs unlike the other classes but sure
-easiest class to dodge yah…but also easiest class to die if you fight anybody with a decent reaction time..?

literally light having no health makes up for all of your “advantages” and also…you’re almost guaranteed to lose any ttk duel if your opponent has half decent aim

feral adder
#

Gambling is fun, everybody stop yapping and crying like children

delicate basin
#

bruh if you get hit by CnS you deserve to get insta killed

old falcon
# ebon isle 0.4%

Yes, only if the probability to fall on any of the rewards is the same, which makes it REALLY bad luck. I like the wheel, but this is frustrating to say the least

brave copper
# plush fjord "they are at an intrinsic disadvantage from the fact that they have less health"...

I don't even think light is weak but I can't stand how many wrong points you made.

Smokes are on all classes

Thermal doesn't give you stealth it's intel if anything

Heavy breaches are much more consistent and even demat is better than bore due to the ability to close the breach off behind you. Breach charges are the worse breacher.

Motion sensors are much better than sonar nades. The persistent ZOC version of any effect is the best rn. (Glitch mines > nades)

I would say jumps are still the best in the game because they work for the whole team and have utility other than movement but light is for sure the best mover overall.

The sniper is out classed by the pike, but if you turn to the lh1 I kind of get you.

empty pasture
#

Interesting

brisk glen
quartz dirge
echo radish
#

BUFF CL-40

potent wagon
#

fuck this lootbox bulshit event

pure urchin
#

hotfix the loadout bug ffs

shut lava
granite agate
#

Nerf zipline

slender pine
#

i would love if WT could feature more than the same 4 maps

clear shoal
#

Enviroment Suggestions

  • Improve AI dialogue, what the hosts say is really cool, but I've been playing since season 1, it gets repetitive after 5 seasons hearing the same lines. Give them some more energy and let them give some more detail.
  • Events have a similar problem, no additions since season 2.
    Weapon and Gadget Suggestions
  • What is the point of the dagger leaving heavies at 30hp? I have never survived being back-stabbed as a heavy. Because stabbers always follow up with a quick-melee.
  • I noticed you designed smoke canisters like fire extinguishers, can you make that into a gadget?
  • Cerberus buff is very fair, keep it. The lights keep forgetting they are hard to hit twice in a row if they don't have a skill issue.
boreal wagon
#

Bro if you were gonna buff the cerberus, nerf the fire damage or something.. gun is entirely no counterplay for lights as soon as you fall in cqb

gritty rampart
lapis elbow
# plush fjord "they are at an intrinsic disadvantage from the fact that they have less health"...

highest average ttk of weapons
because they have the least HP
shotgun that two taps a heavy
it kind of sucks at doing everything else
melee weapons that gain the most advantage from server lag and desync
what kind of dog water complaint is this?
One of the best breaching gadgets (thermal bore and breach charge)
you mean two of the worst?
Best intel ability (sonar nade)
proximity sensor is far better
Best transportation and movement abilities in the game
you have no idea how good jump pad is on a slanted surface with a slide into it
Only sniper in the game, which allows for long ranged fights from the user's side in a game dominated by medium to short range fights.
bum complaint, that sniper is certified useless
Smallest hitbox.
because they have the least HP
Most versatile and flexible loadout in the entire game
you have never played medium
Easiest class to dodge bullets and overwhelm enemies
you have never been jumped by a team of 2 mediums and a heavy

Lights have to be the absolute best to succeed, with Medium you hold left click and with Heavy you also hold left click

and whenever anyone talks in regards to TTK, i suggest you go into the practice range and try killing the two lights on the firing range on the far left with an M11 and an AK and see which feels easier to kill at that range. SPOILER: the AK kills 3 lights each time and the M11 will maybe get 2 with hardly any difference to their actual TTK

hearty bough
# granite agate Nerf zipline

How and why? Is zip oppressive in its current state? It’s a pretty fun tool to use and I’ve never found it annoying to play against. Only good reasoning is that jump/zip is still a must pick for M

tough merlin
# plush fjord "they are at an intrinsic disadvantage from the fact that they have less health"...

Use non biased points. Yes lights have the highest ttk on other lights. This game is not a vacuum. Meds and heavies have 250 and 350 hp. Yes lights have the highest dps but it's offset by the lowest hp. In a heads up duel lights lose. There's to many points for me to counter on the phone, but literally 3 of them are or were false off the bat. Demat is literally the best breaching tool. Sniper before bolt changes would lose to ANY weapon close range would lose to about half of them at med range and still lost to deagles at far ranges. You literally couldn't shoot fast enough even if you hit every shot if they were as good you, you died. Maybe the bolt changes have changed that.

karmic isle
trim beacon
#

Matchmaking is trash

shut lava
# jade imp So are the servers just broken forever? Every single game I'm in is just filled ...

Im wondering the same thing. Ive been playing the game for a little over a year now and LITERALLY the last 6 months I have dealt with horrible stuttering, rubberbanding, and general lag. It throws fights, cashout steals, even fuckin revives where I have to press E 5/6 times to finally stick it. Its sad cus this is all I play and after getting Diamond season 2 I thought I was going to be grinding and going hard but the game actually griefs me aha

granite agate
flint dock
#

Yo, i need you number geniouses to do some crunching.
With the addition with the 4 dup = 1 ticket system.
Theoretically, would it increase your chances, if you where to buy all the VR bucks items of the wheel to complete it? hmm

gray flare
#

there should be a way to upload custom clan logos, i have a schnasty ass monocolor design for mine but cant use it

hidden idol
#

World tour needs some sort of MM system, I get you cant have it be accurate MM due to queue times, but having literal new players play with diamond+ is absurd

rugged temple
# plush fjord "they are at an intrinsic disadvantage from the fact that they have less health"...

Highest average ttk of weapons : still lower in ttk duels against medium and heavy.
Shotgun that 2 taps a heavy : has an effective range of 4-5m medium has a shotgun that can 2 tap light from either ~15m or one that takes 1 shot and a qm. Heavy has an automatic shotgun that can 2 tap light.
Melee weapon desync : Melee hitreg has been infamously bad and is affected the worst from server issues and desync, not the other way around.
Best stealth options in the game : yeah, they're meant to be flankers and you only named 2 (smokes aren't only light and thermal isnt a stealth option)
Best breaching gadgets : they are decent options, but the best breaching utility by far is demat.
Best intel ability : yeah, the recon class has the best intel, but sonar nades arent great considering you give up a gadget slot for them to not have a physical impact.
Best transportation : solo transportation, the fastest class has the best movement. However, medium has the best team movement. Gateway is very strong in this regard but requires additional movement options to make up for the lack of range you can get with it instantly.
Sniper : sniper is literally the worst weapon in the game and loses to stuff like pike and akimbo at long range.
Smallest hitbox : yeah
Versatile and flexible loadout : its the only class which has a singular viable spec against good players. Not to mention limited choices in viable gadgets.
Easiest class to dodge bullets : this works if you opponent is bad, hence my point that light is good against bad players and bad against good players.

Also, please don't put words in my mouth and start hallucinating what I said. If you want a comparison similar to your emerald light point (emerald literally doesn't mean shit btw, its just a time sink), it would be "a light versus a medium/heavy of equal skill, and both play perfectly and at the same skill level, the light will always lose". This isn't quite the case in lower ranks, but is true in high ranks

jade imp
#

Speaking from a cashout/ranked/world tour perspective:

Motion sensor. Glitch grenade, turret, heavy melee, barricades, shields all counter everything you've said. General teamwork (if you solo queue I get it is frustrating) also makes light gameplay and meta methods very difficult to pull off.

The light meta is easily countered by weapons and gameplay styles that are fairly easily attainable by most skill levels. The issue is your average player wants to super soldier there way through the game, not play as a team, not use support gadgets or specializations. They want to RPG themselves to death and use the COD setup with an AK or Famas and a grenade or some other garbage setup that isn't designed around playing the objective of this game.

I main light SH1900 and I LOVE seeing lights in the lobby. Most of them suck and try basic shit that only works because a large majority of the playerbase is terrible at this game. Easy kills and hate seeing them on my time because most of the time they're doing the same thing as everyone else. Avoiding the objective and trying and failing to one man army their way through the game.

winged wadi
#

Embark - find another publisher besides Nexon, Nexon will strangle you and kill you to hell.

Need:
Solo dezmatch(for training with the ability to quickly respawn on the spot) ,
Normal costom games (We need flexible settings in the form of immortality, changing respawn locations, and fast recharging of gadgets!)
A normal paligon with settings for trekking, phreaking, and switching !!!!
BAY FACEIT ANTICHEAT NOW!!!!
Normal registration

Please give value to the money in the ranking that we receive during the match, let's say if you have accumulated more than 50,000 thousand, you would be given additional points in the rating

NERF 1900!! small nerf r93 Sword trash (delete)...

spare topaz
#

Fix hit registration please.

untold hazel
civic rose
#

The wheel of love needs some reworking I got 3 duplicate in a row and they were all the same eye skin

rain shadow
silk badger
#

Any new updates I need to be aware of?

fervent bay
#

the CL-40 has just not been in a good place since the ammo change. I think it fundamentally just doesn't work with five shots, since it needs to have its DPS limited. While in theory this makes it better against heavies it just feels like an air cannon. I can't tell you how many times ive seen a light scurry away around a corner on the tiniest fraction of HP because the splash damage just isnt splashing. idk why i play the cl40 like my life depends on it but I do and it hurts lol
the quality of life changes recently were nice but the gun still feels like drinking water with chopsticks

gray flare
#

begging for the ability to upload custom monocolor clan logos. straight up id be willing to pay multibucks per upload for moderation like this shits roblox. i just desperately need my custom logo in there.
i dont care what it takes. i will personally mail a 20 dollar bill to embark's headquarters if it means i can use this and have it show up in-game somewhere

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silent fog
#

Dumbest WT event so far. Get rid of the bombs.

jade imp
#

So when a heavy walks in a room a light with a shotgun that needs to reload even when two point blank shots dont kill should... do what exactly?

Charge and slam nearly one shots a light instantly, heavy sledge does one shot them, RPG brings them to one shot, SH12 has an easy TTK counter.

Use a good setup and throw down one if the three shields that completely incapacitate and nullify a light if you dont want to die as a heavy.

Biggest issue with lights imo is that counters like CL40 or medium shotguns take a lifetime to reload and empty out incredibly quickly. Makes them punishing to use.

This discord is just filled with people who want to nerf weapons they dont enjoy playing against regardless if how good they are 1:1 against other weapons or how easily countered they are. People want to beat a light shotgun in melee range with their AKM or Famas because they are simply bad. SH1900 can be nerfed to 175 or 180 per perfect spread. 195 is certainly a lot and makes bad shits rewarding by one shotting lights and two shotting mediums, but riot shield, dual blades, glitch traps, mines, charge and slam, shields are all viable ways to beat it and fairly easily.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ytRpVnyKQrM?si=-Ogx2HO_Iqz36ypf

Dropping a clip of me fighting a ton of other teams. A single mine, glitch trap, or shield stops this dead in its tracks before it even starts. But you can reliably depend on kids in this game not playing correctly and punish them for it.

solemn sedge
#

more elevators

thorn kelp
elfin badge
#

really disappointed with the return to long (20-30 sec) respond times in QC 😦

the most fun i ever had playing the finals was when the respond times were short (5 sec?)

please return to fast spawn times in QC!!!

analog hearth
#

I've read a lot of this kind of nonsense since the first time they introduced this hell wheel into the game. The system is obviously unfair and is aimed at extracting more money, even from a supposedly free event. But the whole point is that it's a total scam. Yes, someone will get everything for free, but many will not. Is that fair? No, this system is designed so that those who did not get everything, buy it. It's unfair and aimed at profiting from people's weaknesses. Literally a scam.

tidal saffron
#

Give heavy a sniper 🙏

sonic arrow
gray flare
# analog hearth I've read a lot of this kind of nonsense since the first time they introduced th...

for 95% of people the cost of buying the missing items isnt gonna be more or less than a regular cosmetic bundle plus you get a pile of free stuff on top of it
and by completing the set you also just. get a cosmetic bundle. so
if you wanna talk about the near miss fomo shit that exploits thats one thing, but as far as games go this one is mad generous when it comes to doling out the free shit so i feel like its not unreasonable to let it slide

dawn valve
#

When its the last minute, dont FUCKING SPAWN TEAMS ON CASHOUTS WHEN THE BOXES ARENT OPEN. Give 0 chance to come back at ALL

Also Goo gun stopping movement is BULLSHIT

hearty rose
#

Since every gun have their visual recoils gone

How about make the sniper's aim more consistent and stable since it shoots everywhere except where it should shoot?

Or maybe another version of sight for it?

winter vapor
elfin badge
#

really disappointed with the return to long (20-30 sec) respond times in QC 😦

the most fun i ever had playing the finals was when the respond times were short (5 sec?)

please return to fast spawn times in QC!!!

plush fjord
# dark niche -most light weapons require a lot of skill to use well -the db requires an immen...
  • There are a few things, such as stun gun, which absolutely require no skill. I never said all.
  • Invis has a lot of counters, yeah, but in the heat of battle without any of the counters its hard to see them moving. I'm not even saying its OP, idk if u lack braincells or what.
  • Prox sensor can only be placed in one place and has a smaller range.
  • Sniper is far better than pike if you know how to use it well. Better range, more accuracy, etc.
  • Best movement AND all the other stuff stated.
  • If someone has a decent reaction time, and you have a decent amount of skill to overwhelm your opponents, thenyeah.
    IF YOU HAVE HALF DECENT AIM AND HALF DECENT USE OF UR ABILITIES (evas, for example) THEN YOU WILL WIN THE TTK DUEL.

@brave copper smoke+thermal vis is the point i think i was trying to make.
You dont get the point. All Ive been trying to say is that with breaching abilites as well, it only makes light's loadout more versatile.
The fact that you can throw a sonar nade far away and has more range is just better.

@quartz dirge Hi,
You can play 10 years of the game, but if you can't win a match in the entire time then playtime doesnt really count does it?

@lapis elbow goddamn this is the most based argument ive seen. half of everything is "lowest hp" and "what kind of complaint this" (without telling why its dogwater lmfao) bs. zero logical reasoning whatsoever. not even reacting more to this cringeahh tbh
@tough merlin
@rugged temple
i couldnt even read half of this shit bcz of how dogwater shit i saw. heres a piece of logical reasoning to enlighten you.

Imagine a duel between two players. Both have the best gun in terms of dps from their respective loadouts. One has 10000 hp, but a gun with 100 dps. The other has 1000 hp, but a gun with 5000 dps. Mathematically, 5000dps x 2seconds of fire = 10k hp lost. 100dps x 10seconds of fire = 1k hp lost.

Understand it by urself, im not jobless enough to explain this further smh

lapis elbow
quartz dirge
mellow geyser
#

Invisibility in a FPS game is almost always not fun.

jade imp
dawn valve
#

No im so fucking done with this "Light OP" shit. We get MELTED like nothing and people have the audacity to say we need nerfs. Heavies run fucking winch and analy eviserate us, or they run goo gun and do the same. Mediums with any decent reaction time will locate and kill us before we get even 50 % through their health. All stun gun does is reduce their fucking recoil

tough merlin
# plush fjord - There are a few things, such as stun gun, which absolutely require no skill. I...

Dude. Why are you imagining a duel using fake numbers just do the math. Of dps vs hp of target. You're trying to make arguments and keep shooting yourself in the foot using biased points cause you died to a light.

Quite literally no one is going to bother reading any of the points valid or not if you're just going to spout nonsense at point one.

@fameandfortune.12#0000

okay point being your point is invalid because instead of bothering to use valid scenarios you used a strawman fallacy of "exagerated" numbers.

Want people to take your seriously? Use actual facts instead of making stuff up because your mad about dieing to a light.

verbal bane
#

Embark has proven that they will nerf whatever Discord / Reddit Light Mains are whining about, so clearly the answer is for all of us to make Light main smurf accounts and beg for Lights to be nerfed

sinful drift
#

can you please fix the matchmaking so I dont keep getting playce with people that havent played the game over 100 hours. Would love to have some teammates who know that this is a team game.

olive merlin
#

Nerf light the invis the guns the dashes everything

summer yoke
#

Is cerberus worth using after buff now?

frank hemlock
sinful thicket
#

am i the only one whose getting a crash at the start of a round or joining a ongoing game? its driving me crazy

junior igloo
rugged temple
pearl vector
#

My newbie friend is really having a hard time finishing the "500 gas dmg" and "1500 gadgets dmg" challenge. They said that It's really frustrating as they don't even have VRS to reroll them. Because they were trying out new things which were added since season 2.

azure arrow
#

Can you guys please make it so that you can play kbm on console

mellow geyser
#

I used four tickets in a row and got nothing. So why can’t we have a punch out system? Be honest.

hot delta
pastel widget
#

embark pings need a fix, i do not speak in game so i want to somewhat be useful by communicating with my team using pings but they never mark the right thing, i cant count how many times ive tried to ping an enemy but instead of marking them it marks a random cashout or just pings 2000m from where im actually pinging

mortal hatch
#

I love ranked in this game, never know what's gonna happen

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smoky gust
#

goo gun feels worse now

its clumsy, gets stuck on things it shouldn't have hit and leaves massive gaps while trying to close holes

fading flame
#

Make different variations of weapons and specs.

Single throwing knife that is more accurate, throws faster, and has a faster right click charge but lower damage.

Make a variant of the guardian turret so it can spew fire in a circle at a shorter range.

Make an explosive arrow on the bow so the base damage of the arrow is 90-100 and the explosion is 20-30.

Make a ks-23 that shoots small gases but does much less damage, like 50 or 60.

Make a variant of the CnS where you charge it up and then leap like 15 meters and slam people for great damage.

Make a variant of the mesh shield where it’s smaller but you can also hip fire your weapon while holding it up.

Make a version of the Cerberus that does less damage but also instead of setting people on fire, it slows people and makes the floors and walls icy so it’s slippery and more fragile.

Make a version of the V9s that is actually 2 V9s’s that can only hip fire, so much less damage and the right click unloads both magazines in a 360. Also it only has 30ish total ammo.

I think that these weapons will go into the overall goof factor of the game and make it more fun instead of 90% sweat and 3 assault rifles.

harsh panther
#

Why did lh1 get the s1 fcar treatment and get absolutely nothing done to it in the nerf

oak kernel
mossy cape
#

bug where u cant shoot has been a thing season 1, never patched. wtf are we doing???

bold vine
#

-reports

spiral lightBOT
#
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Send a report through the Social menu (ESC -> Social or press P). Press the icon near the player's nickname to report them.

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You can also send detailed reports to our support team: LINK

analog hearth
# gray flare for 95% of people the cost of buying the missing items isnt gonna be more or les...

Very good free event. Guys, 95% of you can buy these things very cheaply. Come on in. Do you even understand what you're writing?
@brave plover To make money there is a store, but when they want to make money under the guise of a free event, it is a scam.. And no, if someone gets everything for free at this event, and someone does not, and they did the same amount of actions for this and got a very different result, then this is unfair. And you know this very well, if you do not understand this, then I feel very sorry for your intelligence

sonic arrow
#

As a top 500 player (without any proof of it whatsoever) i demand that you nerf light because i am a top 500 player (totally)

junior igloo
flint dock
#

Oh wow d!ck move embark D: Thanks for response though, wanted to see if my electric meatball was on to something xD

brittle obsidian
#

buff akm mag to 40 (+8) and fcar damage to 23 (+1). akm is the worst performing of the 3 ARs. 8 bullets will restore its unique role as a powerful sustain fire tool with lower dmg than its contemporaries. fcar is almost really good, so a tiny damage buff should be good enough (recoil adjustment would be nice too).

zealous mural
#

fire your balance team and hire ppl who actually plays the game. I wish every child on this planet can expirience the same amount of love you have for the light mains

upper citrus
ember dirge
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Great, but instead of bringing noobs into the game without defibs and healing beams, you decided to change it to turret and having to buy defibs, so either the noobs have to work there way to that loadout and get used to another loadout, which half the time people just stay with what they are used to which is gonna be the starting loadout. So EMBARK, @reachthefinals , BRING BACK STARTING THE GAME WITH HEALING BEAM AND DEFIBS UNLOCKED AND EQUIPPED, WE CANT HAVE PEOPLE THINKING NO DEFIBS AND NOT AT ALL USING HEALS IS HOW ITS DONE BECAUSE THEY WILL EITHER LEAVE THE GAME, GET GOOD AT THE GAME AND STILL BE A BAD TEAMMATE WITHOUT DEFIBS AND HEALING BEAM, OR LEARN AND ADAPT AND ADD THAT TO LOADOUT. Countless times i have had to instruct noobs that defibs and healing beam are even a thing, your just hurting yourself at this point EMBARK. ( This was addressing the video, reach the finals just posted )

https://youtube.com/shorts/SRltTbyPi_c?si=aj42gDz1n0yX0H0d

Please repost, embark needs to enable healing beam and defibs as starting loadout for noobs again or all of us solos are gonna suffer forever

hollow atlas
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my point still stands there needs to be a penalty for stacking 3 of the same class

weary wasp
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Always boggling to see people defend awful gacha systems like the spin the wheel event. This game used to be a lot better for its events, and proved it still can be with the Christmas one. I'd hoped they'd learned their lesson from the Halloween one but this is yet worse still, the best part of the event requiring all 20 drops, even if you might not care about them otherwise. Loot crates, random wheels, and anything like it is just venomous gacha that never should have wormed its way into gaming.

I used to not mind splashing some cash on this game to buy new skins from the store, because the devs were clearly committed to making a fun game, and I legitimately wanted to support them. That time has passed now, and these events are a very big part of that.

modern moth
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Not a well formed message, just an idea and request for content creators, and the comp scene.

Would it be possible to add a way to record/watch matches back after they've been played? Just like you can spectate custom matches as they are happening. Similar to what you have in cs2.

This would allow for greater creative freedom for people who want to make cinematics or alike. The quality and ease of making cinematics would be insane.

This could also allow players to easily vod review any match post play. Making it easier to find issues, strategies and improve. - this which would also make it easier for anyone wishing to made vod reviews available for the public. Ie to highlight commonly made mistakes.

Whilst what has been mentioned is still possible to achieve without this function, it's incredibly tedious and time consuming versus getting this feature added

fading flame
tribal spoke
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Please buff the dual blades by switching their combo to flat 55/55 damage slashes. This fixes the breakpoints for heavy and light without touching how fast you kill a medium (From full health). As an alternate make the swings faster and remove the third attack

zealous mural
# upper citrus The update nerfed light?? What are you talking about

the update nerfed everyone but lights. oh yeah the smallest LH1 nerf(the gun is still broken). SUUUUUURELY BIG NERF FOR THE LITTLE BABIES playing that shit class. They also made sword broken af AGAIN. Stop the bs, it's 5th or more time when lights are buffed, and other classes are nerfed.

nova osprey
# weary wasp Always boggling to see people defend awful gacha systems like the spin the wheel...

Ain’t nothing wrong with the way they run this wheel though, since you can’t buy tickets, and you have the ability to get 39 tickets for free, you still have a chance to get all the items, and if you don’t you can buy individual items for a reasonable price, instead of waiting, in the case of this event, they aren’t preying on people since they aren’t overcharged for these items. Nothing about this is actually bad, and is completly fine

upper citrus
brittle obsidian
willow nova
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When to make horizontal DPI and vertical DPI, PC players need this

viral fern
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When I shoot a dual blade user in the feet they should take full damage

wispy sand
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If you are in a premade party of 3, and you start the que and one of you leaves and disconnects, you will not get a fill once in game as it will treat you as a full team

echo urchin
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If a person is solo queuing and one of their teammates quits after the first vault fight, they shouldn’t loseany ELO

-1,038 because my fucking silver teammate quit or disconnected.

smoky agate
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Call outs in-game still don't work if you die, unless you use them prior to dying in any match - ps5

glass fjord
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The Wheel

safe flare
tough merlin
# nova osprey Ain’t nothing wrong with the way they run this wheel though, since you can’t buy...

No its really not. You can't buy tickets true but the tickets aren't "free" you do have to earn them. Upon spending said ticket you have the ability to get back 25% of the ticket, how is there nothing wrong with that? They quite literally are preying on people who they know won't get all the items & will buy the items.

Fix 1. Remove the ability to get dupes
Fix 2. Remove the wheel and just sell the items without the maybe you can get what you want free

Fix 2 might sound like a negative because you won't be able to get things for free but they're not giving out things for free because it benefits you. They're giving out things for free because it benefits them they get more sales on the items they originally wouldn't by abusing the fomo practice.

One can also argue fomo is on the person and the company and i'm inclined to agree to a bit, but games knowingly use it because they know people will spend more money which is the same trick casino use. They give you "free" money that you spend because they make way more then they give out from the majority of people spending the "free" money and then proceeding to spend there own. Its simply shady and immoral imo.

Imo make quality products and people will buy them. A game even if its f2p should not need gimmicks to make money.

quaint shoal
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I already have 12 of the items and potential for 24 more spins before tickets aren't given out any more, I like my odds

wide void
viral fern
sterile canopy
jade imp
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Quick melee? If so YES I have never missed so many melees before today. Not sure if it was good or not because I know before today I was hitting a lot that weren't actually hitting.

weary pine
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Still F the LH1. That nerf didnt do jack!

kindred kindle
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What would you guys think about Embark adding chromas to skins? (different colors for skins) Maybe to buy them with VRS

polar grotto
thorn socket
devout grotto
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I think this game would be better if the devs balanced the game in favour of casual gaming rather than pro. Casual would mean fun quickplay and chaotic ranked and pro means serious ranked and boring quickplay. Everything that made me fall in love with the game - putting explosives on barrels and blowing people up (nukes after the first nerf where barrel flew randomly) and the creative ways people would fly about making 1 in a million plays on youtube is slowly getting removed from the game and I find that really surprising. I would have thought the devs woulda found that stuff hilarious seeing what crazy stuff people can do in their game they made with blood sweat and tears.

maiden shell
stoic cradle
junior igloo
left bluff
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If using EOMM; please stop.

tardy cloud
analog hearth
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What are you even talking about? What does pay to win have to do with it? What does battlepass have to do with it? Did you crawl out of a cave? Do you know what a scam is? Do you know how predatory monetization systems work that parasitize on human weaknesses? Is it not clear to you that this is some kind of strange free event in which many people need to bring money in order to get all the rewards? Either you are an idiot who does not understand how life works, or you understand everything perfectly well, but pretend that this is how it should be because you earn money this way

fading sinew
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Random glitch?

I went to drop the box and it bounced 10 feet behind me. I did not throw it, it just left my hands.

You ever going to fix your game completely or is it comical to keep adding bugs/glitches for fun?

wide void
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Why is it so hard for you to understand that the word "maybe" is the problem? Do you really not understand that making it so the items are RNG to obtain is quite literally unfair?

I don't mind buying items. I don't mind FOMO that much. The issue is when you force SOME players to pay and others not to ENTIRELY based on chance. And then locking those items away forever is extra predatory.

zealous mural
wide hazel
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Please balance the game I'm not going into detail nor am i going to cry about it but i genuinely enjoy this game and don't wanna quit, please balance things out i don't mind learning skills with different weapons but everything feels so off its not funny anymore and not only that but the main guns that need nerfed aren't being bothered with, for once EMBARK and especially you OSCAR if u guys ACTUALLY LISTEN to the community make it fair play and make it enjoyable, i love the game for what it is but the gameplay was going good and now it seems as if your asking players to leave the game, I hope this improves in the next season cuz i had high hopes and now I'm very disappointed on the how the game has turned out,anyways best of luck out there and hope everyone gets wins today!

warm bronze
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This game is well balanced in its current state. I've solo q'd to diamond on heavy this act and despite what people say, light isn't prevalent. This game just needs more outreach to grow the active player base + bug fixes/ polish. Devs please don't listen to everyone crying about lights being OP and how the game is ruined. They are the vocal minority.

maiden shell
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Stop making melee pathetic.

Slight buff to melee magnetism to make up for ping and desync

Sledge:
Heavy attack 200-> 210
Light attack 115->125

Spear:
Spin 105-> 120 and remove the third spin or make it input based.
65,80,90->85 flat

Riot shield:
Light attack 90->90
Swing damage is okay, swing speed needs to be increased slightly Like 10%. Increase hitbox registration.
Special attack
Blocking is great and all, but there's almost no reason to block when you can passively block so let's lean into that. Be able to slide and jump while blocking. Slide blocking basically makes you unable to take damage unless very neich angles or AOEs.

Duel blades:
Light attack 50×2, 60×2, 70. -> remove third hit, standardize damage to 55×2 per input.
Special attack deflect-> add headshot multiplier, fix deflect hit registration

Sword:
Light attack 74->75
Special attack charge 140->145

Dagger:
Light attack 50->unchanged
Special attack 320->350 if they backstab a heavy they are gonna do the quick melee anyways so it's a small QOL. Also decrease backstab angle by 15° so you cannot be backstabbed with you back against a wall no matter what.

Melee needs to be a viable pick

nova osprey
# wide void For the umpteenth time, it's not fair if it's RNG. You can't say "the price is r...

It is completly reasonable because it is a free event. Nothing should be guaranteed in a event like this, so it’s actually even more reasonable of them to be even offering us the ability to buy these item, because in every other free event we haven’t been ensured we will get those items. since they are giving us the opportunity to buy said items if we want, then there is no actual problem with them running the wheel in the way they do

wide void
# nova osprey It is completly reasonable because it is a *free* event. Nothing should be guara...

My man, the hell are you talking about? There has been NO event other than these two wheels where we were offered free items that you could ONLY get by chance.

They offer you to pay for the items as the punchline for giving MOST of them away for free. It's a predatory tactic. They don't "want" to give you all the items for free or even any of them at all. They want you to buy those you're missing because you already got so far in collecting most of them. That's why there's a full collection bonus, too. It's just FOMO with a twist of gambling on top. Stop defending such blatant bullshittery.

tepid summit
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goo barrel lewis gun

zealous mural
untold hazel
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the final match in tour should be the normal map variation

native helm
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please get rid of Kyoto in Power Shift, it might genuinely be one of the worst-designed maps ever made for a shooter - beautiful as a portfolio piece, but in terms of gameplay and visual clarity it is horrible to play on.

on that same note: why don't we have Power Shift versions of good maps like Las Vegas, Fortune Stadium or Bernal?

fading kite
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🍆

jagged marten
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a 5v5 version of quick cash would go hard
an even more casual space for players to learn the cashout format and no 3rd partying for those who dont like that

maiden shell
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Thank you for asking, really.

As a heads up I'm going to make up numbers for the sake of my argument because I don't want to look them up.

I think from a game balance perspective, weapons need to be strongest at their intended range. There may even need to be a rework to implement reverse falloff(more damage the further away you hit shots up to a point). From long range to melee, a pike should outperform every single weapon outside of Sniper at its intended range the same way Fcar and AKM need to be able to outperform model and Cerberus at anything more than 15 meters. The balancing falls apart when we get to melee because by the standard I have set, melee should outperform shotguns because melee is strong from 0-3 meters where shotguns should be strong from 5m-10m especially since shotguns can still provide value from range even if it's Minimal, at the very least it still prevents HP Regen. Unfortunately shotguns just outperform melee outright, even in melees intended range. I think even just punishing barrel stuffing with reverse falloff would be great and nerfing SH to where it can't two shot a heavy would fix alot of my issues

tropic snow
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Tighter SA12 spread by 15%, it feels very inconsistent after the waves of nerfs
Buff mesh to 1k hp and make deploy less sluggish
Lower Pike fire rate by 5-10%
Lower resurrection sickness from defib from 5 seconds to 3 seconds
Lower Kyoto presence in map rotations

surreal meadow
maiden shell
wide void
polar grotto
warm compass
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Dear embark buff heavy claws again dont ba an ass

native helm
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I rarely leave games, and when I wait through the 5 seconds to leave, don't backfill me into the same lobby.

unreal fossil
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Nerf the LH1. The last nerf was a slap on the wrist. It's ridiculously strong for how easy it is to use. If you don't want to touch damage, reduce ammo to 10 rounds, or lower the ROF, or make the hipfire spread dogshit, or lower the HS multiplier, honestly any of these would do to raise the skill floor.

On another topic, I'm starting to like the Lockbolt, at least for casual games. But I really don't understand why it doesn't also slow down targets. So many times, I've had people run around all over the place after a successful hit. It's not as easy to use as the Stun Gun, not nearly as strong (it doesn't stop players from using anything in their kit, or stop a steal), it has a much longer cooldown... the ability to slow down enemies sounds like a reasonable and coherent buff to me. It would help Heavies (esp. melee Heavies) tremendously, while still needing aiming skill and situational awareness (because like the RPG, you're not able to use it again before a long time, so you have to make it count).

@quartz dirge That would be a start. I don't mean to say nerf the gun to the ground. I've always liked it. But it used to be more difficult to use. With the red dot and visual recoil changes, it's just a noob gun at this point. I think the red dot should even go, there's absolutely no reason not to use it over the arrow type with its glare revealing your position from miles away.

You may be right about the XP54, but I feel like it can be devastating in its current form with good aim/tracking. I actually find the weapon fairer and to an extent more rewarding for the player than what it used to be at 18 damage/30 rounds. 17 damage may be a good middle ground. I'd like Embark to give it a try at least.

@maiden shell I don't know about specific numbers, but the fact that it ain't that easy to deploy, has a limited radius/duration and long cooldown would make such a buff just about right.

quartz dirge
maiden shell
glacial swallow
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There should be body paint or face models with robotic limbs or something.

dark niche
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istg I bet that over 80% of the people who complain abt lh1 have never used it…I don’t get how it’s so op⁉️ somevody pls explain

stone hazel
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tons of ammo, incredibly strong headshot multiplier, good range, high fire rate, good sights

jovial needle
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bring back the healing canisters and give medium a healing grenade

maiden shell
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Give heavy a way to get his health back quicker. Feels bad I gotta hide for 8 seconds when the whole enemy team gets to rez

half briar
# wide void +1 for 5v5 cashout

This game will live and die on 3rd partying. Started out fun, now just a terribly balanced and frustrating gimmick. 5v5 quick cash and 6v6 cashout is the future.

quartz dirge
fleet socket
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Random idea for heavy
Rage bomb (would look like vanish bomb but red)
Whoever hit with the rage bomb will become invincible but take whatever damage received after the effect ends, could last 6 seconds. Basically letting the person (mainly heavy) berserk out to make last second plays without having to wait for recovery timer

surreal eagle
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The LH1 is way too strong in The Finals, and it’s ruining the game’s balance. It does insane damage for how easy it is to use, with almost no recoil and crazy range. You can two-shot most enemies, even from mid-range, and the reload speed is fast, so there’s barely any downside. It completely outclasses every other weapon in its category, making it the go-to pick if you want to win. The problem is that it takes almost no skill to use, so even average players can dominate just by picking it. Meanwhile, people using other weapons have to work way harder for the same results. The worst part is that it feels unfair—if someone with an LH1 sees you first, you’re basically dead before you even have a chance to react. If they don’t nerf it, everyone will just keep abusing it, and the game’s variety will suffer. They need to either lower the damage, increase recoil, or give it some kind of trade-off to make it more balanced. Right now, it’s just too good.

wide void
native helm
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one of the major problems that leads to the LH1 feeling "frustrating" more than you feeling like you got "outplayed" or "outskilled" is that it is strong at a lot of range breakpoints, while also being very easy to use. It also doesn't help that it gets exponentially better when it is in the hands of someone that can at least somewhat aim

the recoil as it is right now, combined with the different scope options for clarity/preference, is a joke if you spend a few minutes in the practice range or played some other fast paced shooters before

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more than anything with the recent balance changes I'd describe playing against Light as "frustrating" - I don't think they are OP, but it is frustrating that all the tools that you have/had to deal with them or keep them in check keep getting nerfed

I feel like one possible counter would be adding a slow to the Lockbolt when it triggers, and just having it persist much longer before it times out (before getting triggered) - basically a trap to "control" an area, which is supposed to be Heavy's thing, right

dark niche
devout grotto
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LH1 is blatantly a joke, but the M11 too... I'm pretty sure if a gun feels like you're getting all headshot aimbotted and you can insantly tell you're getting shot by the M11 it needs a nerf..

maiden shell
sinful drift
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So, ive been playing the finals for probably 3-4 weeks straight with little to no time on other games (Been playing long before 3-4, just had a lot of time recently). I can tell you in the 3-4 weeks ive been playing this game straight. I've probably won maybe 10 - 15 tournaments on this game. Which is astoundingly low compared to the amount of games ive played. Can you please tell me, how in any way shape or form that is balanced matchmaking? I figure you know if you play a game like this for hours a day your likely to win probably a few times at least. But I play for hours quite often including today and I don't win at all. Would love for there to be rank based matchmaking in this game. The matchmaking is the most atrocious matchmaking i've ever seen in the around 18 years ive been playing games. Nothing has come close. This game is unbalanced as it is, but then you have practically the worst matchmaking in the history of videogames to top it off. This game is in some serious need of work, and quickly, its no wonder it started with a million players and doesn't even have close to a fraction of that anymore. The fact the matchmaking is this bad at this point in the game tells you everything you need to know. If you're new to this game, best not to waste your time. Find something else to play, because if you wanna get a high rank on this game, good luck doing it without a 3 stack.

quartz dirge
half briar
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Yes, this is a free game, so don't expect things like "matchmaking" in any game mode other than the one ranked mode, because the devs of free games simply don't care if every other game you get stomped or do the stomping. Heck, they don't even try to balance the 9 to 12 players that matched into the same lobby into decent teams. Math is hard.

torpid sky
deep sierra
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BUFF FCAR!!!!!!!!

covert dagger
quick coyote
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Embark next week world tour stop.

Fortune Stadium
Skyway stadium
Bernal
Sys Horizon

NO VEGAS. NO KYOTO.

maiden shell
surreal eagle
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The Cerberus shotgun in The Finals is too strong and needs a nerf. Its fire damage can quickly melt through enemies, and because it’s a shotgun, it deals a lot of damage up close, making it super effective in tight situations. The problem is that it does too much damage in a short range, especially when players are forced into close-quarters combat.

Right now, the Cerberus can be used to wipe out enemies in a single shot if you’re up close, which feels overpowered compared to other weapons. The fire damage adds an extra layer of risk, forcing enemies to take more damage even after the initial shot. This makes it too dominant in certain situations, where it’s hard to counter or escape from.

To balance it, the Cerberus should have reduced damage output or lower fire damage over time. It needs a nerf to make sure it doesn’t give players too much of an advantage in close combat without any real counterplay. Right now, it's just too reliable for taking down opponents quickly.

lament plank
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Can we ever adjust the "Interrupt opponents who are stealing your team's cashout" to be included "as a team" like the stealing quest?

swift laurel
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instead of asking how was your last match, the game should have occasional surveys like 'on a scale of 1 - 10 how strong/useful do you think x weapon/gadget/spec is?

plain cedar
# maiden shell Stop making melee pathetic. Slight buff to melee magnetism to make up for ping...

Sledge: i think 200 > 205 would be better, if not you effectively one shot mediums, 125 is a bit on the high side due to 2 shotting mediums which can still kind of be accomplished with 2L+qm but it might be ok

Spear: Id rather have the spin be interruptible rather than being stuck in a slow moving animation (even slower now that you cant slide). Yes more consistent damage profile on light attack would be great. 2 shotting lights shouldnt be too much of a balance issue

Dual Blades: 60x2 standardized would be better imo. 55x2 can be really punishing if anyone gets any form of healing while youre doing damage since the qm breakpoints are so tight that youre basically dead if you miscalculate it. Overall i still think dual blades shouldnt exist in the game and medium melees need some real oomph to them (i wrote a concept here complete with damage profiles and breakpoints where you just beat people to death with your god given hands and legs)

Sword: I think 74 is perfectly fine. Its to prevent CERTAIN players from simply spamming the left click and its something that shouldnt be encouraged. Yes there are times where you dont have the time to lunge and have to commit to left clicking but thats also when you use qm (if youre more experienced which at least shows some skill/knowledge of bps)

Dagger: should remain entirely unchanged in terms of damage. No matter what, qm still gives downtime to opponents and its a relatively minor inconvenience for such a huge reward. Backstab hitreg is really fuckin weird, if you reduce it by 15 degrees its prob gonna cause a riot, so implement at your own risk i guess

native helm
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I know "durr matchmaking bad" but for the love of god stop matchmaking 5 randoms against a 5 stack - I've played like 10 matches just today against the same stack.

(and that full stack is basically the top of the leaderboard)

genuinely, Embark, I know you guys like analytics, I have seen your posts about spawns and engagement times etc., I am certain you can see that these games are not high quality, they are blowouts that are not even close and I can't imagine they are fun for anyone involved.

In no universe does it makes sense for the top leaderboard people, in a 5 stack, to be matched with some of the people that end up on the "5 random" team, some of which aren't even Lv20 or have less than 100 wins (and play like that as well)

I am getting more balanced matches in Deadlock.

granite vector
grand halo
#

daily reminder that the servers are dogshit

maiden shell
# plain cedar Sledge: i think 200 > 205 would be better, if not you effectively one shot mediu...

I insist that the sledge heavy attack be 210 because neither the overhead or the quick melee has melee magnetism so that combo is mostly only effective on stationary or occupied targets, and does not combo with winch. All this ontop of the fact you cannot out DPS SH1000, SA, not ever Cerberus if they just stand there and shoot you.

Sledge light attacks need to be 125 because once again, quick melee has no melee magnetism so allows too many escapes, even when you do everything perfectly right.

You might have missed it but I am also advocating that spear spin is a single spin per input.

If other weapons cannot have healbeam in consideration for their damage than neither should dual blades.

Sword doesn't compete well against SH1000 so the damage needs to be remotely comparable. 190+ damage a shot is insane and shouldn't exist.

Dagger: I'll give against your counterpoint dispite the fact I disagree with you. Getting backstabbed to the face or in an unfair way is not fun, I'll even say I don't mind if the backstab is instant if the °15 nerf is implemented

Thanks for the response

uneven prawn
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how is it that a competitive game like this still has no anti cheat? like im honestly baffled at the logic.

wide void
jagged vector
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Remove kyoto.
Why do grenades do more damage then an rpg? Like what?
This games direction continues to go down hill. The devs don’t care about it at all it seems. Balancing is so fucked MMH MMl and just healing and defibs. This season is the last season I buy the battle pass

languid valley
brittle obsidian
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Grenade indicators for frag grenades. In a game with notoriously muddy audio/visual tells, a concrete UI indicator would help prevent a lot of frustration. The characters yelling that a grenade is coming is a nice diegetic touch, but not only does it not always trigger, it can get easily lost in other voicelines/audio.

plain cedar
# maiden shell I insist that the sledge heavy attack be 210 because neither the overhead or the...

You alr suggested a buff to melee magnetism tho. Id rather have that than a flat change to the bps. The main issue here is that the game fucks you over with the low tick rate, high latency and ping yes? So there should be measures implemented to soften factors that are out of your control rather than introducing changes that will cause an inherent imbalance between those who are affected by server issues and those who arent. The flip side is also true for people on the receiving end of the sledge, there are times where the hitbox of the sledge makes 0 sense or i just get hit by a sledge heavy outside of its range (the same applies for qm). Its really risky to introduce changes to BPs if the servers are unstable since it affects everyone unequally

Spear: Mbad your statement was a little misleading. I thought you meant the third spin be input based or removed entirely. Though tbh it needs an entire rework

Dual Blades: I placed healing beam into consideration because imo the dual blades are the slowest in damage output and BPs of all the melee weapons with lacklustre protection, melee movement and gap closers. Id even argue both the riot shield and dual blades need a closer look at their damage profiles and bps tho you alr suggested updating hitreg and speed for riot shield which is good enough since you can effectively 2 shot mediums. Additionally 60x2 has the same breakpoints as 55x2 across the board. It just leaves more room for the slowest dps melee in the game but with the change its dps per attack is at least comparable to riot shield + qm. There are many other problems with the dual blades in general but since the scope is on dmg ill just address it as such

Sword: Im aware of how strong the sh is against lights in general. You said it yourself that sh is the real problem. So the balances should surround the sh rather than affecting lights across the board. Sword alr has access to a one hit combo and doesnt need anymore training wheels to help.

maiden shell
distant oar
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Cerberus desperately needs a nerf rn
Played Diamond/Ruby ranked rn and it's way too easy to camp objectives and is too oppressing at range. The damage rn is fine it needs a range nerf though

dark niche
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Lights on this game is horrible, just nerf every op gun on light, seems like every gun is way to unbalanced with their gadgets, stun gun = free kills
dash can avoid players or run off super quick, every gun of theirs, LH1, Smgs have a super quick TTK, its getting out of hand its flooded with lights. especially on EU servers. might be my luck but i see about 8 every world tour game.

and why r grenades doing 149 damage each, if u nerfed land mines why not nerf nades 🤣
(nerfed and land mines now u can put 1 down and wait 30 seconds to put another down)

modern vortex
#

The pike did not need a buff, when there is 3 on a team it’s impossible to do anything anywhere on the open

naive torrent
#

Remove charge and slam.

rough sequoia
#

the sr25 changes have made power shift basically unplayable

opaque shell
slim dove
#

This game is heavily need good team play, can we have solo mode? maybe some battle royale thing

next timber
# dark niche Lights on this game is horrible, just nerf every op gun on light, seems like eve...

Because embark only wants light players they intentionally make it harder for anyone else to play the game with enjoyment. They nerf everything into the ground because the little light babies cried about getting one and two shotted and now they ignore everyone else complaining about light. I say if they are really as good as they think they are bring their health down to 100 that would really balance everything out, but you are correct they have the highest DPS weapons, fastest ttk weapons, fastest reload, highest fire rate, invisible and stun gun are basically free kills and dash can get you out of basically any situation if you know what you're doing.

fossil apex
#

Replace identical "finals logo" flags fans waving on tribunes with flags of different countries

versed sorrel
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Match like this and I lost 761 rep, I ended last season just shy of plat 4, and new season puts me in silver 4, embark your ranked system is not working properly, no more money till real fixes on stuff like this actually happens.

YOUR GAME IS DYING NOT FROM ONE ISSUE BUT FROM A 1000 SMALL CUTS LIKE THESE

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distant oar
marble prawn
#

keep getting disconnected everyonce in awhile pls fix

dawn valve
#

Didnt fix the LH1, shit can still outshoot the M11 at close range

maiden shell
#

HEY EMBARK, HOW ABOUT YOU LISTEN TO THE FEEDBACK CHANNEL.

tribal shore
#

My daily for gadget damage is barely going up for some reason? I know I did enough damage because I finished a non daily contract with the same specifications? Really frustrating since the event wheel has given me way more duplicates than the halloween one

earnest quiver
#

i got put into a game earlier where most people were brand new, to the point where one guy on my team whipped out their healing beam to fight an enemy
I went 31 and 2, not too proud of it but i hope i didnt ruin those peoples' first time gaming experience cause of that matchmaking

worldly dew
#

Please for anyone’s sanity stop this ranked placement bullshit I’m a plat going against rubys and diamonds every two games and losing the same points as going against golds Its the only reason I’m going to stop playing the finals!!! If I wasn’t so poor I’d smash shit everywhere PLEASE EMBARK FIX RANKED!!!! I always want to play but everytime I play ranked since it’s the last thing to do it makes me lose my mind on how broken it is golds are to easy plats are getting farmed by ruby players something needs to change or your games gonna die!

wooden onyx
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Change ranked back to console only lobbies for console players, its unfair for console players who have almost no chance in hell getting to ruby. If you did a poll on your website i can assure you majority of console players would ask for you to change it back to the way it was season 1 for ranked match making. The game has all but died on xbox/playstation for competitive. Please Embark, do not continue to shoot yourself in the foot, don’t believe me. Log onto console and see for yourself.

dark niche
# wooden onyx Change ranked back to console only lobbies for console players, its unfair for c...

idk how many times i said that as well, but they dont listen, i gave them also feedback about how long it finds a match with the xbox network or ps network, game is abysmal, no wonder nobody plays this game on console as much, just look at the games reviews on console, its all about the crossplay, imagine having a competitive game against a full stak of PC rubys and a 3 stack of controller plats, id rather play siege rn over this game, least that has better match fixing. i slowly lost interest in this game and thankfully i have, the game is going down every update, season 3 hurt this game a ton, wish they just listen to consoles just 1 time.

harsh torrent
#

Why is it that every game, im q’ed with trash newbies while the enemies r always full stacked

neon nimbus
#

How come clan tags, are not able to be used forever, if someone used it before, but isn’t using that clan tag?

So I tested by creating the tag jay63, then leave the group, when I try making a new one, same tag, it says it’s being used?

It would be great if these names that aren’t used anymore gets reset.

So it’s like, okay someone has a clan and wants to use tlwc, but I already made a group and used that tag, then leave. I don’t own it, but now that clan can never use that name. Despite not being used anymore.

tribal spoke
#

Something that I saw on Balise's stream stuck with me. He said emerald should be added into ranked. Tournament should be added as a quick play mode, wt removed and rs rewards for ranked. This incentives players into the ranked mode and stops the player base from being halved.

feral adder
naive torrent
#

Heavy has 4 specs at the moment. 3 are balanced. Charge is not. You embark did nerf it which was great but still you can’t get then low or they’ll charge. Go near them they charge. Heavy is the only class with 4 specs. They removed recon why not charge?

honest siren
#

HI, SO THE CERBERUS SHOTGUN KILLS ME IN 3 SHOTS AS A HEAVY? IN LITERALLY LESS THAN 2 SECONDS???????????

SERIOUSLY??

AND IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE TO BE HEADSHOTS?

tidal radish
#

Just how did the cashout idea start?
It could be interesting to know imo.

maiden shell
slate vessel
shut aspen
#

I understand why Embark could be adding TDM as the next game mode, but I’d honestly rather have a 5v5 cashout instead. Having a POI in games has always felt more engaging like Halo’s King of the Hill or Assault rather than a basic TDM gamemode. Imma try to stay positive, but so far a bit cautious with this choice if the leaks of a TDM gamemode are true.

leaden shell
#

i love how both my teammates leave a wt match so im forced to leave and still get penalized for it wth embark make a forfeit option this is rediculous i feel if teammates leave in wt u should be compensated with a little boost in ur wt lvl not much but something for having to work double time to make up for absent teammates

keen lily
#

if teammate is afk in ranked and gets kicked I shouldn't be getting -1300 points for last place wtf

austere crow
cosmic cloud
#

The new leaderboard display case with the coins and gold bars has me thinking: what if we had a player showcase in the training range that celebrates our own successes/stats/cash overall and over the seasons? Maybe also add a vault that grows overtime with our winnings?

maiden shell
daring mesa
#

Nerf

maiden shell
#

i want lockbolt traps. one single teather, easy to break, doesnt auto disappear

left warren
autumn spire
#

Change the way you receive feedback. Most of the players or peoples aren't even giving solid feedback. It's simple, have people who are doing feedback do this .

[Suggestion]
[Feedback]
[Bug]

People shouldn't be allowed to reply to feedback, because the dev are deciding what is or isn't important. Instead allow people to put 4 emotes. 🌟, ❌, 👍 or 👎.

People who agree should give the thumbs.
Devs can give a star, showing that they actively are taking in feedback and approve. X can be used by all. X means no.

If a player doesn't use [feedback] or anything with a bracket. Remove the msg. Usually people who are just complaining about stuff. Same with people who are trying to troll.

Ex .

[Feedback] lower prices for equipment. New players will just get bullied by vets. Have the meta items cost the most, not new stuff.

[Bug] voice chat seems broken, people are either loud or super quiet. I had changed the settings .

[Suggestion] change the metro shower event. Make it longer or fall in the center of the map, instead of it being on the map outskirts. Instead of only 2 different showers. 4 would be nice .

[Suggestion] after you (inspect) your contestant. Allow to zoom in or out, and rename . r2 and L2. O or 🔼 to rename. Don't allow foul words.ofc

[Feedback] have a special event where there are two events, or change the time of events. In "power shift" a event always happens a minute or 3 minutes before the match ends. Could have a special event, where 2 events happen. 1 at the start of the match and 1 toward the end.

[Suggestion] give an option to turn the commentators off or switch it to music. "The finals" have great music, why not have people enjoy it

leaden shell
#

embark pls im begging at this point remove kyoto from wt nobody wants this cursed map idc how hard u worked on it its bad

versed hazel
sleek sigil
#

REMOVE SLIDE FATIGUE, BUFF OVERALL MOVEMENT SPEED AND ADD MORE MECHANICHS TO IT OR IN LIKE 1 YEAR OR LESS IT GOONNA DIE, CHECK BATTLEFIELD 4 IS SITLL ALIVE DUE TO HIS MOVEMENT, CHECK APPRECIATION FOR MW19 CAUSE OF ITS MOVEMENT, CHECK APEX THATIS UPDATING HIS MOVEMENT AFTER A PLAYER LOSS.

wind meteor
# neon nimbus How come clan tags, are not able to be used forever, if someone used it before, ...

you left the club, but did you delete it? the tag is still being used by the empty club. So you cannot say "not being used anymore" unless it is explicitly coded that empty clubs get deleted.

@next timber yet you have soo many lights complaining how their weapons are so weak. I think they're in a good place, only their play style is soooo annoying: dash+sword; clock+taser; dash+backstab; throwing knives+spamming jump...

@tribal spoke you said, tournament should become quick play mode, and the wt removed. So I think the format for the world tour will stay, only without badges? one thing about the world is that it introduces twists every week, and is less sweaty than ranked. If it becomes a quick play mode, I can guarantee you that people will go play it as a quick play mode, they will not go to ranked. Personally, I had a bad luck playing my first 4 ranked rounds. I was playing with my friends who had already unlocked their gold rank, and when I joined them, they decided to start testing new kits. And so I lost my 4 first rounds, and was placed in Bronze 4. Now I have to soloq, and being bronze will put some really bad teammates with me, which is making it very stressful for me to rank up. So I am almost exclusively playing WT.

@sleek sigil what if I hate games where people are just surrealistically flying around. It doesn't feel like a futuristic game show, rather a fictional galactical battle.

bronze pumice
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DAY 1 OF ASKING EMBARK TO REMOVE DOUBLING FROM RANKED

jolly island
#

Another day, another 3 tickets giving only duplicates. I just love when I gather 4 ticket parts and then the ticket only gives back a SINGLE ticket part!

This is starting to look like the wheel's rigged.

This is what, my third day in a row with 3-4 tickets returning just ticket parts?
That's some real "crusades knight shot through the eye slit... with EVERY arrow aimed at him, multiple times a day" astronomical defying the odds stuff right there!

BARE minimum, the 4 ticket parts should grant a freebie ticket that guarantees an item.

supple nebula
#

Embark, all you have to do is revert the quick melee changes
and then we'd be 40% less pissed about the balance changes
we cool?

plucky smelt
#

If a teammate is muted, it should also mute the wheel comms like Thanks and such (just had a tilted teammate spamming it 1000 times).
Also I want to see my teammate's career/statistics and Steam profiles from the in-game social menu.

lilac coral
valid wedge
tacit skiff
#

The fact that they removed the bypass of manual action animations just ruined the winch/KS-23 Same for the model you ruined it, reconsider your decision it's been several days since I played the game. plus the nerf to the Winch Just rubbish

jolly island
carmine orbit
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I want to play with a mouse and keyboard on my console.

wind meteor
# jolly island What were the Qmelee changes?

I think he's talking about the animation cancelling? You were able to quick melee then immediately shoot your weapon, now you would need to wait for the end of the quick melee animation, before shooting. I myself never knew you could shoot immediately 😂😂

@analog anchor yeah, I knew animation cancelling is considered cheating

supple nebula
# jolly island What were the Qmelee changes?

Not letting you "cancel" the animation or whatever, this massively nerfs most shotguns since you can no longer output as much damage as before at point blank, this matters because well, it's for shotguns and you tend to be really close to people

waxen thicket
terse yarrow
#

Give heavy better defensive capabilities these new players just run in and die and then I'm effectively useless because heavy relies on their team a lot.

slate vessel
lament sable
willow yoke
#

Fix respawns
Fix Vault spawns
fix cashout spawns
Revert back to s4 respawns
Its way too easy to third party in tourney there is literally no punishment to just go to the already contested cashout
Also why do cashout even have the option to spawn 50m apart from each other.
Not even talking about final round spawns which are the worst with pike meta. Some team just gets an rng plug win because the other team cant reach the vault in time no matter what.

quartz dirge
grim sedge
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so nice of playing against lights who has stun combined with other abilities even on powershift and quick cash . so nice of them to nerf the winch meanwhile the stun and cloak cancer makes 1000 times worse for anyone to play against. nerf soon orf_pfff

wooden onyx
jade orchid
#

Bring back nade grappling

plush fjord
#

Stop nerfing stuff forgodssake, itll take the game nowhere

slender girder
#

Still waiting for wheel ticket compensation to the Playstation players that missed a day of tickets when PSN was down.

Either give PS users 3 tickets or extend the ticket gathering days with 1 day.

short wren
#

Can we get actual skins for the throwing knives

smoky spade
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@slender girder how long was it down?

plush fjord
young turtle
#

Once again, I present thee my Skin Ideas (* signifies newly added):

Glow in the Dark skins (Similar to Arcade Carpet/Luminous Riot. Really hoping for this one. Pattern could be from Truth-Tunnel Jumper sleeves, would be fine & easy imo):
FAMAS + Defib/Jump Pad
LH1 + Glitch Grenade
Shak-50/SA12 + Barricade

Sticky Situation 2/Stick Around
Throwing Knives/V9S
Spear
Dual Blades

Argon Glow 2
R .357/Riot Shield/HealBeam
Sword/M26/Bow
Akimbo/MGL/Barricade

Wave Interference 2
LH1/Glitch Grenade
AKM/Jump Pad
Akimbo/Lockbolt

Charmalure
The rest that doesn't have it yet lol

*Heart Jump Pad (Heart beating effect similar to how jump pad has the effect thing on it)
Rubix Cube for Grav Cube
Vinyl Player for Lewis Gun
Bucket of Ice Cream/Chicken for Gravity Vortex (Switch is a chicken user bites into or a spoon that they bend)
Hot Potato for Fire Grenade
Burger Joint Mascot Costume with a Burger for a head
Another Death by Rodent outfit(Slipknot inspired with a mask) with Drum Sticks for Dual Blades (Inspect is air drumming or something)

steady breach
#

I'm begging you embark, please change the 'caulking' animation for the shotgun back to how it was. Jab cancelling the caulking animation and being forced to caulk the gun after has made ks23 and the model 1887 much weaker in very close range engagements. It has made the guns ironically weaker than automatic weapons because it is much easier to combo jabs with it. I understand that shotguns should be weaker than melee weapons in face to face engagements but this has just made swords a massive problem for ks23. Beyond all of the balancing, it just feels awful to use. Being forced to caulk the shotgun no matter what makes the shotgun feels so slow and awkward. Ks23 really needs it, please.

fresh oriole
#

pls embark make light greater than he already is and fk those heavy shits holding sledge hammer and killing me as a light with one shot #nerfsledgehammer
lmao no its not i mean it #buff light

gritty mortar
lavish shard
#

NERF M11

upper citrus
#

M11 is in a perfect state honestly. Dash is the issue. Subjective value makes it destroy low elo and eat shit in high elo. Cloak also has this issue but the objective value you get by going full invis when standing still helps mitigate this

@guts.the.swordsman#0000 nobody really wants melee to be on the same effort to value ratio as guns. Melee being strong is inherently frustrating and I think most people would rather it be decent but niche. As it is now

maiden shell
#

I'm just gonna say it. Sledge heavy attack should one shot medium.I'm not wrong, y'all are fucking wrong. Shotguns are OP af and nobody fucking cares. There's no reason for me to run sledge over SA and RPG

distant ermine
#

When will the stupid issue of first loading into the game and getting 1 fps be fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sterile patrol
#

I'm having a serious burnout from this game.. keep catering light players and turn this game into another call of duty. I have played this game since the closed beta, each season brought more and more nerfs, that no one asked.. desync and server tick rate drives me nuts.. this game needs a huge health update. 100k that they wanna spend on eSports they should spend it on fixing the state of this game. This game has insane potential and it's sad to see it falling apart. Sadly I'm gonna uninstall it.

soft spear
silent fog
#

great job on buffing pike... Usually people dont make the same mistakes, you seem to be the exception

distant ermine
crystal umbra
#

😭😭😭 thanks for TDM, Hardpoint would be great too!😭😭

cosmic ether
#

It's nice grinding to the very last page of Battlepass for a model skin that wont ever see the light of day, being that the recent nerf has rendered the weapon useless. Good work team noice

celest forum
# sterile patrol I'm having a serious burnout from this game.. keep catering light players and tu...

I've been feeling the same way about nerfs for a while now.
Completely eliminating nukes, frag grenades doing more damage than an actual RPG.
Unable to juggle mesh shield.
Heavy gets all of these things nerfed/ taken away.
Even though there are counters for everything I mentioned.
The game is starting to feel like call of duty and I'm truly failing to see why we need 3 different classes anymore.

vestal basin
#

Bugs that weren't fixed since game release are not "bugs", it's skill issue

round hornet
sterile patrol
lavish shard
#

You play cloak db stungun you are a big shit

regal forge
#

I'd honestly love to have something like a play of the game or an mvp for the casual game modes

outer estuary
thorny lynx
#

8 duplicates on the horribly designed wheel (just have something you win get pulled from the wheel, screw dupes) and lobbies full of cheaters, recoil scripts, cronus and walls. Game is at an all time peak of cope

north pine
#

Scotty says "10 seconds left", same as the in-game timer, and the game ends 2 seconds later. HELLO?!?

delicate basin
#

FIx buge

potent wagon
#

this RNG lootbox event fucking sucks.

wise jolt
#

i really hope we get new contracts this thursday

regal forge
#

I CAN'T SEND ANY FILES BUT THIS KEEPS HAPPENING AND NOW I DO HAVE BOTH VIDEO AND PHOTOS OF IT. THIS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED NOW BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY FREE WALLHACKS ALL GAME

wind meteor
# waxen thicket I mean, if a bug is how you made a weapon viable then it was not very viable to ...

Honestly I was always able to land the same kill count with a shotgun as with a machine gun, while I didn't even know about animation cancelling. Now I understand why some people were stupidly good at it. The most frustrated people, are those who use the SR at close range... so like a shotgun with ridiculous damage.

@grim sedge are you aware that this week or the week after, the stun gun will be reworked?

@jade orchid why give grappling hook users a huge advantage on Cloak and dash users? not to mention user classes.

@young turtle so your suggestions for skins are... skin names?
I mean the last paragraph are fun ideas, but the ones before are just skins that already exist but you want them for other weapons/gadgets, I wouldn't consider this a suggestion or idea

young turtle
fathom aurora
#

Here since OB and game is not fun like used to... i have no desire to open the game anymore to play with my friends... o wait.. they quit to play fun games. Just playing to roll the garbage wheel and close the game. All your trash changes/nerfs stole the game identity.

hollow ice
#

suggestions for a smg for the heavy i thought what kind of weapon would be cool for the heavy to have i thought how bout smg but then got stuck with what is a big smg and i found the Beretta PMX and the Villar Perosa aircraft submachine gun and as a bonus i thought of a mix of the Magpul PDR and the Metal Storm MK5 volley gun so basically i want the hailstorm Mk.5 from payday 2
also this is not just a crazy idea from a random person i have been here since CB2 so i took some real thought before sending this.

visual spruce
#

am i the only one who is having fps drops like never before after the update? specially when destructions half_friend half_friend

@coarse dirge sad_friend

coarse dirge
torpid sky
#

powershift tourney before gta 6 is crazy

tired fable
#

it could be cool to add a "Rock-it launcher" gadget/weapon as Fallout which can shoot objects from environment or idk something that can turn flower pot and chair into something more usefull like reshaper

and yea add more objects on sys horizon

lost talon
young turtle
wind meteor
# lost talon

true, one time Embark did a feedback survey and asked whether we would like to see powershift as a ranked mode, and I was like "hell nooo". I play because it's fun, but it could be veryyy annoying having too many lights with SR or LH1, or too many heavies that you physically can't get off the platfrom, and I would be very mad if someone was playing stupidly.

@young turtle Now that you say, it would be cool with time to skin you're whole usual kit with the same theme.

slender cave
#

What about spectating mode? Player spectating, not free cam as it will have an unfair advantage attached to it.

signal basin
#

Balance your game ffs !

  • Cerberus buff is insane.
  • Pike buff is insane
  • Flamethrower is stupid as fuck, range and damage.

You tell yourself Embark than Light is the class who's losing the most and instead, you buff a sniper who no one use from 115 to 118 so basicly, useless buff and you're gonna rework the stun gun next ?
I play everyday to your game as a Light. It's painfull. Unfun and unfair but ffs put some love on Light !

vague urchin
#

The healing canisters were great! now? Maybe a grenade that is the same that’s for medium? Or like a stim for heavy? some way of healing would be great outside a heal beam.

wide vortex
#

PLS fix the matchmaking.

last saddle
#

Please fix your matchmaking. Just went a full round where the game didnt refill a team and was stuck 2v5 for over 3 minutes of the game. Its absolutely atrocious that it doesnt fill with that much time left. No excuse for this.

twin stream
#

i completed 2 daily challeneges and got 1 wheel spin ticket

glass fjord
#

THE WHEEL (2 dupes today, thanks i'll just go fuck myself)

main knot
sterile patrol
#

It's a bug that I saw in early S4, I can't believe it's still happening! It's game breaking!!

steep sigil
regal forge
#

I tried to contact support through the page. Let's hope they fix it soon because it's happening more than it should

wide vortex
#

come home from work and i wanted to play some finals to relax. i played couple hours and lost every single match. I was getting teammates that had just started playing and we played against ruby/diamond squads. I got twice in game with this dude that purposedly just destroyed stuff in the furthest corner of the map. and then i had some server issues. Thanks a lot for relaxing gaming session had a blast.

wind meteor
# signal basin Balance your game ffs ! - Cerberus buff is insane. - Pike buff is insane - Flam...

if you just count the conflicting comments in here, you would know that mess is not on Embark.
You say flamethrower is stupid, other say it's shit.
You think buff pike is insane while all the people who were calling for an LH1 nerf were calling for a pike buff.
Cerebrus now at least has a chance against a heavy without a quick-melee that would impossible against a melee weapon heavy.
You say no one uses the sniper, when literally everyone was calling for a sniper buff at the beginning of the season.
You want some love on light, while everyone thinks all the balances that were done are light biased and catering for them.

Also, maybe play some other class, because it seem you are not good as a light, and it's ok.

YOU GUYS ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE JUST PLAY THE GAME AND DON'T EXPECT TO WIN EVERYTHING.

half quarry
stoic lion
#

REVERT THIS GARBAGE QUICK MELEE CHANGE. Trashhh ahhhh patch.

brittle obsidian
#

Id like to see battlefield-esque manual spawns tested out for a world tour stop. Automatic spawn systems will always have issues

sonic spoke
signal basin
# wind meteor if you just count the conflicting comments in here, you would know that mess is ...

Lol ? You suppose how I play ? You can see the futur too ?
Why you are speaking about LH1 ? It's nerf and logic ? Pike is not logic. Putting 50dmg ? Everyone can easly understand how is nonsense
Cerberus give the opportunity against H ? When you've got MODEL just before thath ?
Tell me what give you opportunity against H with L ? When you got Hook, Hammer, RPG and Charge ?
You speak about sniper ? Really ? You're playing only in Powershift ? I never see someone asking for a sniper buff. And please ? 3 dmg ? on SR 84 ? When you got the same on PIKE ? Do you understand how the buff is pointless ? Just compare the RPM and the numbers of bullets in the loader

@half quarry Yeah, but it's in headshot only

mossy karma
#

Charge N Slam desperately needed it's nerf

Winch MUST be nerfed so it wouldn't interrupt melee attacks making it the most powerful combo at close range with SA

wanton dock
#

power shift might be fun as a tournament mode, maybe not ranked though

quick coyote
#

Mini map and buff enemies foot steeps, embark, please bring it back medium’s recon sense!

pulsar willow
quick coyote
last saddle
#

This wheel is a god damn miserable experience

sonic spoke
#

4 to make 0.25! lol

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quaint ember
#

Sort out the xim / chronus zen cheating situation. People are playing with full aim assist on mouse and keyboard and it is getting really really old. It is possible, other games have done it.

crystal tide
#

n e r f t u r r e t o p p r e s s i v e h i g h e l o m e t a

fresh oriole
#

#BUFFLIGHT
nerf the stupid turret and nerf the stupid weapons of the medium stupid class

upper citrus
#

the wheel is great :)

I've gotten all of these cosmetics for free and most of them are pretty solid. i wont mind if i end up paying a 500-1000 MB just to complete the set at the end, considering how much ive gotten for free. and it would still be cheaper than just buying the full set in the shop

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brittle obsidian
#

Pike rpm has to come down, kinda crazy how we had multiple seasons demonstrating why a 50 damage fast dmr is a bad idea, yet they did it again anyway. Cerb is probably a smidge overtuned right now, and should have gotten a small compensatory damage falloff nerf when its spread was buffed to keep its effective range roughly the same.

The fire mechanic is still obtuse and inconsistent, and should probably be reworked/made more clear what is actually happening. Supposedly each bullet contributes to an invisible "heat gauge" that ignites a player when it fills up completely. Exposing this mechanic with a "heat bar" UI element on players' health bars could be a nice touch (think dark souls/elden ring status effect indicators).

nova flower
ivory forum
#

The wheel sucks I think, I've gotten like 5 duplicates in a row, and it just feels unrewarding. It just ruins the fun for me. And that's not what I want from the finals.

weary wasp
# nova osprey Ain’t nothing wrong with the way they run this wheel though, since you can’t buy...

I went to sleep before you replied, apologies. But no, everything about this is bad. Leaving completion of an event up to random chance and RNG is never a good way to balance them. You get 39 tries if you play the game every day and complete all of your dailies you say? Fantastic, but that's still only a 42.06% chance of getting all 20 unique items for the full set. And that means the chances are you will have to spend currency on completing the event if you want the full costume locked behind it. And to top it off, unlike the Halloween event, you can't even use VRs to unlock it, meaning you have to use the currency that costs real life money. This is anything but a fair system, and what does it add to the game compared to the much fairer event patterns that all but these two wheels have employed? Everyone has the same objectives, you play a fun new game mode, we have a giggle, and everyone who partakes gets a free outfit or whatever it may be. How is this system anything but a predatory downgrade from that? F**k gacha, stop enabling it.

hollow badger
#

buff shak 50

slender iron
#

revert lh1 to its former glory, season 2 lh1 was best, recoil so difficult to control but so rewarding for those that can control it, the harsh recoil kept it out of the hands of most people

karmic sable
#

Same, was my favorite game for a year. Now uninstalled until I see some patch notes that don't make me vomit🤮

west trellis
#

What is up with all the triple stacks in quick cash lately? 90% of the time I'm on the rando light team doing their own thing against the stack of people with comms and comps. It's one part frustration with matchmaking, and one part like if you have a full team why are you playing QC, go play WT. And while we're at it bring back solo bank it (especially in private matches)!

rough sequoia
versed lotus
#

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING EMBARK FIX THESE DAMN SERVERS THEY ARE SO SHIT

solemn fulcrum
#

Remove leaving 5s timer in Bank It, or stop connecting to lobbies in progress

gray flare
rustic vault
#

Anyone here actually like this game? You all seem to hate it.

It is ok to have bad matches/rounds and lose, just breathe and remember to have fun.

lapis oriole
#

Game events could be better

Retro invasion 82 and alien invasion are both annoying and repetitive

oak kernel
#

I've noticed people mentioning they're stopping playing due to being burned out. Some say they're being burned out by "lights", "bugs", "OP weapons", etc, but I think the real culprit is the annoying af WT grind.

Please let us earn WT win points in all modes. Earning WT points isn't that serious. This would let people play the way they want to, reducing burnout massively in the playerbase imo by reducing the frustration.

Have WT & Ranked considered the main events and other modes considered side events. Side events would earn less WT win points than main events to keep it balanced with how hard WT & ranked are to win in comparison. Ranked should earn the same as WT. That's simply a fact. I can think of no better way to burn out players than forcing them to grind WT & Ranked separately for their rewards.

Changing things to work as I proposed would also breath life into every gamemode queue! Ranked would have way more players (like myself) if I wasn't stuck in the solo queue WT emerald grind hell. I want to play ranked, but I feel like I'm simply wasting my time when I need every day to grind WT (I'm not amazing). I literally don't play other modes because it's a waste of my time. It's insane. I like cashout, but I could see myself not coming back next season if I make it to emerald this season simply because I don't want to put in the effort again. I'll just stick to powershift and occasional cashout games and not buy the BP unless I get close to the end.

hoary flint
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As a light player just trying to have fun, i’m praying on the downfall of these other light try hards that act toxic the micro second they get a kill. Losing or actively throwing the game and tbaging after missing shots and just barely managing to get a kill. Like bro, getting a kill with the v9s ain’t hard.

quick coyote
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Asking u to add monkey mask day 1

upper citrus
# nova flower You guys realize if this was just a battle pass style event you could be guarant...

We get a free mini battlepass every season with no fomo, we get free weapon skins from circuits, free multibucks from playing world tour, free skins from world tour and ranked, free leveling rewards, S4 added a ton of free starter cosmetics.

The point of the wheel event isn’t just to give players free stuff, we already get a ton. Yes you will likely have to pay to get the final skin. It’s not gambling, you can’t pay for spins. The luck based mechanic is a little poorly executed in terms of player psychology but when thinking about it logically, it’s fine.

I am more than happy to spend a little extra money to get the final outfit, even knowing the only part of it I’ll use is the hair. I’m glad that money also came with me getting a shitload of other cosmetics via the wheel.

The event also states that all rewards are subject to return. And I don’t have poor spending habits nor do I care about skin exclusivity so I don’t mind the FOMO. Although I do think it would be better if the cosmetics were guaranteed to be in the shop next Valentine’s Day.

Embark as a company needs to make money, yes the point of the wheel is for them to make money. I’m glad they did it in a way that also benefits F2P players

quick coyote
heady abyss
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add kill cam pls

left warren
light zenith
delicate scarab
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The Club is a great feature. But can it be possible to add time next to the message so we know when people texted us ?

Can you also add a feature when we are in game to be able to talk to other member of our club who are looking for team mate so that we can say "i finnish my game and i'll be available for a match ; wait for me 🙂 ! " Thanks

And maybe lower the price of weapon and stuff from season 1 (and on next season, lower the price of S2 etc.) so that new player aren't affraid to grind. It's very difficult to level an account and unlock weapons and gadgets. This can make a new player instantly leave the game seing all Shak 50, Cerberus at 2000. There are not a fast way to gain credits so very slow progression

craggy mason
silent fog
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Really fun meta guys 🙂

quartz dirge
keen lily
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ranked is so stale, you really need to make some changes next season

mellow geyser
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Eight consecutive spins and nothing. Please tell me why we can’t have a punch out system. You suck.

hazy mountain
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Earlier i was in a WT match, and whilst i was shooting in an obstacle-free room (at my enemy mind u) my bullets kept deflecting as if I’m hitting a wall but there wasn’t anything in front of me. It carried on for around 7ish seconds. My teammate saw it too btw. But since my bullets were hitting sum imaginary, i was killed which coulda cost us the game (my framerate was fine too)

Fix ur servers embark please. half_friend

daring mesa
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I quit the finals until embark addresses the real problems (oppressive turret meta) and they can keep my 500+ dollars and I will continue to play once the problems (oppressive turret meta) is fixed 😡

signal basin
gray flare
nova osprey
# weary wasp I went to sleep before you replied, apologies. But no, everything about this is ...

But the problem with this argument when it comes to this situation is the fact that this is nothing more then a glorified coupon. There is nothing wrong with making the coupon based on luck, since that’s all this is. The item is worth a little less than 2400 multi bucks, which is 20$. Every individual item you get makes it cost a little less. So each item is basically a coupon, and nothing is inherently wrong with making a coupon based on luck. It’s not a gacha system at all, when all it really is, is just a coupon.

broken plume
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I spun that damn wheel 5 times in a row and got nothing.
I dont like it
Im forcing myself to do these dumb "get 500 gas damage" or "block 5000 damage" challenges which arent fun at all, quite the oppisite they feel like chores all for this FOMO
I would honestly rather be playing a different game or playing for the sake of enjoying the game WHICH I WAS before the event but the event has me "If I dont do this everyday Im gonna be unlucky and not get it all"

weary wasp
# nova osprey But the problem with this argument when it comes to this situation is the fact t...

We can flavour it as a coupon if you like, but ultimately it still serves the same purpose: Let people unlock some of an item so they're more likely to dump real money to complete it. It's scummy, and it's not a fun event.
And honestly, @broken plume you make a great point there as well. It's not doing anything fun, there's no game mode. It's forcing you to play every day for a chance to win the event items, maybe. It sucks, especially when compared to cowboys, Christmas, bank heist, and all the other fun events they've run. They can do better and they should do better. This system is a scummy cash cow and it doesn't even hide it.

wide void
# nova osprey But the problem with this argument when it comes to this situation is the fact t...

You are STILL here whiteknighting the inherently unfair gacha system? You really love bootlicking a predatory practice, huh?

Let me ask this again. If Embark released a skin tomorrow that costed a random amount -- between 0 and 3k multibucks -- and it was entirely random per account, would you still be defending that just because some people happen to randomly get it for free? News flash, that's about the same thing happening here with the Wheel.

surreal stirrup
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i agree

dense marlin
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Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller settings on console

nimble plinth
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Hey guys - is anyone getting hard crashes lately? I normally would get drive timeouts - but now, the game would hard crash but I'd still be able to hear chat and game sounds.

nova osprey
# weary wasp We can flavour it as a coupon if you like, but ultimately it still serves the sa...

There is absolutely no difference between this “gacha” event and the items in store. The items in store also have a label saying they won’t stay forever, same as the one in the wheel, the only difference is that by playing the game you can get a discount on these items. There is not scummy cash cow system, there is not some sort of predatory tactic. If you have decided you want to buy the item, then you can buy it at either the base price, or wait, play the game, and buy it for whatever discounted price you earned. If you’ve decided you don’t want to buy the item, you don’t have to at all, and can enjoy the free items you do get. That’s the problem with your argument. You are not entitled to this item at all. So there is no need to act like you are entitled to them at all, because you aren’t.

@wide void and yes I would defend it, because it’s a game, and I am not entitled to those skins. Embark can do whatever they want, so I wouldn’t complain, I’d just be happy they released a skin, that’s it.

digital ember
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Suggestion: in cashout, all three teammates can steal the cashbox together to make stealing go faster

paper oak
bright nexus
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FIX THE GOD DAMN WHEEL, I SHOULD GET ALL DUPES WITH ONLY 6 REWARDS CLAIMED, JUST MAKE IT SO YOU NEED TO DO EVERY CHALLENGE EVERY DAY OR BUY IT

steady breach
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I'm begging you embark, please change the 'caulking' animation for the shotgun back to how it was. Jab cancelling the caulking animation and being forced to caulk the gun after has made ks23 and the model 1887 much weaker in very close range engagements. It has made the guns ironically weaker than automatic weapons because it is much easier to combo jabs with it. I understand that shotguns should be weaker than melee weapons in face to face engagements but this has just made swords a massive problem for ks23. Beyond all of the balancing, it just feels awful to use. Being forced to caulk the shotgun no matter what makes the shotgun feels so slow and awkward. Ks23 really needs it, please.

(Changed to caulk because of censorship)

wide void
# nova osprey There is absolutely no difference between this “gacha” event and the items in st...

This "you're not entitled to the item" shtick is fallacious. You're completely ignoring the arguments at hand: the fact this system is 1. unfair and 2. predatory.

Unfair should speak for itself because it's RNG that you have no means of controlling.

As for predatory... When you say "oh, you don't HAVE to pay for the items that you could have gotten for free" is along the same lines of "oh, you don't HAVE to keep gambling after the casino served you some cheap food." You're ignoring the reason WHY Embark "generously" give you a luck-based lead on some items -- WHY Embark decided to make it an unfair RNG system. They designed it like this because the most likely situation you'll encounter is having almost every item but one or two, and they want you to feel as though you're getting "a lot of value" by spending for the last few items to get the collection bonus (some literal pixels, by the way, that don't inherently have "a lot of value"). They want you to feel like you were so close, you might as well spend. They said (at least for the Halloween wheel) that these items may or may not ever come back, so they want you to feel like you're missing out permanently. All because of literal RNG rolls.

If you still can't look past the "dur it free item" and see the intent, then the Internet is dangerous for you.

V @boreal blade 💯✅

boreal blade
# nova osprey There is absolutely no difference between this “gacha” event and the items in st...

I dunno about you dude but i started playing this game cos it didn't have predatory gacha. Anything resembling a casino-like bullshit that's meant to tickle that "i want to spin again!!!!" mindset is incredibly awful and it will make people spend real money to get that limited item and to roll for it. Even if it is less predatory than other games? That is just the beginning. Let them take a finger and next your whole hand will be taken. This is not okay and we should not think it's okay. If that was a thing to buy in the store? Sure. But don't put it on a flashy wheel that imitates a casino, jfc, or raise this game's rating to 18+ because this is gambling.

potent wagon
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this RNG event makes me want to uninstall.

weary wasp
past spire
# steady breach I'm begging you embark, please change the 'caulking' animation for the shotgun b...

People aren't complaining about this enough. Two of my 3 favorite weapons are in a state where I don't even wanna use em. A tech that people learned and built the habit of using, was patched out of the game and written off as a "bug fix" over a year into the game's lifetime. I'm not a fan of full auto/tracking weapons, but now the alternative is equally as unfun and even frustrating to try and use. Not to mention the brutal C&S nerf on top of it. Every patch I get closer and closer to just switching towards maining light because. Why would I bother with my other options at this point (ok, yeah, that's a little dramatic, but u get my point)

Meanwhile other REAL bugs like being unable to sprint, looping gunfire audio, and more remain after multiple seasons passing.

Edit: the fact they didn't even include a devnote to give a little BTS thoughts or reasoning behind the fix also annoys the hell outta me. It's a sneaky little change to shift the meta and unless more people create an uproar, it's probably here to stay

nova osprey
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@wide void @boreal blade
@weary wasp
I’m not simping, there is no simping for any of my arguments, my main point is that once again, there is nothing wrong with this system other then the annoying duplicate problem, other then that, it doesn’t mean you should have the item. This “you’re not entitled to it” is important because you aren’t entitled to any of the items from this event. The fact that if you want you can straight up buy them makes it even less of a problem. Nothing about this system so far is predatory because all it does is give you the option to play to pay less, nothing less. That’s it. And on the subject of them taking this idea and running with it, they won’t. They already learned from the last time, because the main problem was that you received too many duplicate items. In the case of this event, that is still a problem, but they did change, which shows that they do learn from their prior mistakes, meaning if we ask for changes to the duplicates again, they are more likely to fix that. Not only that, but these items have a set cost already, so you won’t ever be overpaying for this item. It is a free event, that you are not required to spend money on. I understand this, and that’s why I’m not spending money on it. I just enjoy the skins that I get for free, that’s it. If you guys can’t understand that you aren’t required to spend money on this, the internet is a dangerous place for you.

dark niche
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Bring Crossplay Off Feature - So Xbox And Ps Network can play against or with eachother, sick and tired of pc cheaters, ruins the whole idea of a comp game.

bright oasis
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so there is a way to dodge the suspension in WT you leave the game get a party invite from your friend and then your friend que's for a WT game you dont reconnect to the other lobby but just wait for the game to start and then youa re in a another WT game

languid ibex
mellow geyser
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Embark: it’s truly amazing how well you fully realized your vision. I remember watching the first trailer and thinking: there’s no way that’s how the game actually is. You proved me wrong. Sadly the ingredient you missed is fun. The moment to moment gunplay is not great. Ans too many thing s aren’t fun. There is an amazing foundation to build on but you have to make some changes for the game to reach the heights it deserves. Truly.

plain fern
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guys we need to be able to save several different crosshairs so you can change it in the settings for the gun you wanna use.

olive adder
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fix the matchmaking

wide void
# nova osprey <@132238417353375744> <@299996220267692032> <@187156887526047744> I’m not simp...

@languid ibex @compact plank

  1. Outright ignoring my argument again about why they designed the Wheel like this (to entice spending through anxiety). Tell me, what makes the Wheel better than any of the old events where they actually introduced gameplay content (new gamemodes with free rewards just for playing)?
  2. You have the equation upside down. It's predatory because it asks you to pay for something you COULD have gotten for free by CHANCE.
  3. You're wrong when you say "they learned from the last time." Last time, you could buy about half of the Halloween Wheel's items with VRs. Now, you can't buy a single one with VRs. And the chances at finishing the current Wheel compared to the Halloween one are not that much better. Again, it's intentionally designed for you to pay, not for you to get everything free.
  4. You said earlier you would defend them adding a skin that costs a random amount between 0 to 3k, so let me ask: would you really still simp for them if that was EVERY skin in the entire game? How would you feel then if some accounts get everything you'd want for absolutely free and then you yourself are asked to pay $60?
  5. Your uncreative "hur dur rewrite what he said" strawman at the end is ridiculous. I already said you aren't required to spend money on this. I'm telling you that just because a company offers you some stuff for free doesn't mean they don't have an underlying intent or mechanism in place to extract money from you.
boreal blade
# nova osprey <@132238417353375744> <@299996220267692032> <@187156887526047744> I’m not simp...

it's a literal wheel of fortune. definition of GAMBLING which doesn't belong into a game that's not a casino. It's that simple. Sure it's free way to get paid for items. But it still doesn't belong in a shooter. It's not a shitty phone game, it doesn't need casino mechanics free or paid. And we know embark can make good events that don't rely on predatory mechanics, this is just lazy cop out. Also agree with Lyrit

merry grove
steady breach
crystal tide
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Please, nerf turret

kind peak
# wide void <@164103937455161344> <@403649937994416129> 1. Outright ignoring my argument _...

Wheel has more free items and they're all from just doing contracts like you normally would anyway

@boreal blade aint gambling if it's free entry

@wide void On average it's more free items, unless you rolled a 20^50 chance, you're not getting only one item

Daily contracts always have been daily

Time isnt a legally recognized payment option

You cant use multibucks to spin, it's not a payment option and therefore isnt an entry method

wide void
# kind peak Wheel has more free items and they're all from just doing contracts like you nor...
  1. It's not "more" free items compared to those old events when they're given out at random. It's possible you could literally only get one item.
  2. No, the Wheel isn't "doing contracts like you normally would anyway." Because every single other event and contract in the game besides these two Wheels has been relatively respectful of your time and allowed you to at least complete them over the course of a week. (And, of course, guarantee you get the items for the time you spent.) In order to get every ticket possible for the Wheel, you have to do 3 daily contracts every single day without a break.
  3. It's not "free entry" when it asks you for your time.
  4. It's analogous to gambling if the prizes otherwise cost money to obtain. You know actual casinos give free credits to newcomers to entice them to play, too, right? Do you think that these casinos are operating at a loss when they give out free entries? No, they're successfully getting more people hooked.
steady breach
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I'm begging you embark, please change the 'caulking' animation for the shotgun back to how it was. Jab cancelling the caulking animation and being forced to caulk the gun after has made ks23 and the model 1887 much weaker in very close range engagements. It has made the guns ironically weaker than automatic weapons because it is much easier to combo jabs with it. I understand that shotguns should be weaker than melee weapons in face to face engagements but this has just made swords a massive problem for ks23. Beyond all of the balancing, it just feels awful to use. Being forced to caulk the shotgun no matter what makes the shotgun feels so slow and awkward. Ks23 really needs it, please.

(Changed to caulk because of censorship)

nova osprey
# wide void <@164103937455161344> <@403649937994416129> 1. Outright ignoring my argument _...

1: The problem is that if you are spending through anxiety, that’s your own self control problem. Embark shouldn’t have to deal with your own self control issues just because they release something.
2: that’s not predatory, this (see image) is predatory, and nothing about this is actually exploitive. It’s just a simple wheel of fortune that you play for free three times a day. Nothing is actually inherently wrong with this.
3: it is better then last time because the main problem, not having tickets, was solved, yes they removed buying items with VRs, but that’s because they made it easier to get tickets to spin, which is a completly fair trade off to what they initially did.
4: yes, I would defend them because this is a online video game where nothing we have equates to anything of real value irl. That is why I would defend it because I simply don’t care about the whims of some online game. I play the game for fun, and the skins are a cool bonus. I don’t have to buy those skins if I don’t want to, remember you speak with your wallet when it comes to games like these. If you don’t buy it, these games see that data and know, “well maybe we shouldn’t do that again”.
5: repeating what all of you guys said was necessary because it helps me refute each and every stupid point you guys have made. Not only that, but the very underlying mechanism that is in place is making each skin its own flashy piece, they don’t need some other way of extracting money from you when they have this method in place. And if we ignore that fact? We also see that there is a base price that is not only set in stone, but is also reasonable. Not only that, but this wheel reduces that price. So everything they are doing is completly reasonable and fine.

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weary wasp
dawn valve
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LH1 nerf did NOTHING

ALSO REMOVE WINCH ITS 0 SKILL EASY LIGHT KILLS

cyan crane
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I'm sorry but how do you place me in seeding 1 if we lack a teammate and total 50k whereas every other team passes 70k?

outer jetty
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Goofy idea, (Don't take it seriously)
Give Heavy!

  • A gadget that lets you shoot a goo sized ball that is a ball rock that fires a rolling ball and does damage to walls and floors/roofs and destroys eveything that is related to buildings. (Like how you shoot a goo barrel in the air and it does structure damage).

But one that is manual to fire. (It has less health then a normal goo by -50% less. But doesn't take damage from doing structure damage.

Doesn't not do enemy damage.
Breaks after not doing any structure damage.
Extremely heavy ball.

@dawn valve, Fr? 0 Skills ha. You never tried using Winch claw as heavy, And how it's compared to "Charge ‘n’ Slam" how better performing then him. It also takes aim to catch a dashing light, Not easy. You can say the same thing to the Slug shotgun that heavy has. Why you don't complain about that then? Winch claw is in a 50/50 state. Same level as "Mesh Shield". Better off using Goo Gun 😳 OP beast.

@dark estuary, Yea i'm good we don't need a Overwatch Mercy damage boost pocket.

Edit: I get the problem. But that isn't a good idea overall. If you BUFF damage with specialization, and combine with another medium with healing beam and another medium for combat. That's stupid. One man army will break the balance. The point is teamwork, Nothing you can't do if you solo. It's who you fight against. That's the problem. It's matchmaking. (...)

@tall spoke, I don't think it's a good idea. It will seem like Attack and Defend type of thing at the end of any fight. 80% of the time seems like the defender will manage to win any fight. (What i'mma yapping about? whenever a game starts. The first to take a vault or 2 vaults who knows, And there is 1 or 2 cashout stations. Only one can win. That who defends one cashout. Also thinking only one 1 Cashout. It's just attack and defend making a trap house for the attacker) I like the idea. But i rather have it as a Custom game really. I would enjoy it tbh.

versed cloud
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Nerf the stupid auto turret and make it reload.

dark estuary
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Give medium a specialization

that can boost teammate's dps by 5%, it should have 3 charges and last about 2 seconds, CD relatively fast, just select a teammate and left click(animation should look like deploying something), there will be a red aura around the buffed teammate

Note:

  • This should help solo queuers to make up the teammate who has lack of skills, preventing the frustration they face when their teammate have extreme skill gap between themselves and the solo queuer.
  • This will make the game more fast paste, equalize heal beam and defib and all season viable shields
  • duos and trios will have better team experience over all, since damage boost is a deployable, they can fight along while help their team.

@outer jetty read note, "mercy pockets" is a meta caused by one's lack of knowledge in mercy as a hero to begin with, that hero can do alot more than just pockets but runined by the player base.

edit: @outer jetty , there's no such a thing as "one man breaking balance" while using heal beam, that user cannot fight, heal beam cannot out heal even akm, sure it can prevent melee combos but it's still easy to kill with damage from other teammates, team fight isn't that simple, there's alot of things to considerate, I won't explain the details but just know that kind of situation don't exist.

flint breach
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@nova osprey you shouldn't say that someone's point is stupid just because you disagree and your 12 years old. Go make your bed

tall spoke
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almost forgot, day 24 i think of asking for 5v5 cashout variant

slender pine
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buff light sword (and nerf medium and heavy)

wide void
# nova osprey 1: The problem is that if you are spending through anxiety, that’s your own self...
  1. Once again ad hominem. I AM NOT GOING TO SPEND. Even if I DID spend, that doesn't make your argument any better. The fact that this system is based on both creating AND exploiting other people's anxiety is exploitative -- AKA predatory. It's creating FOMO and then capitalizing on it through literal unfair randomness.
  2. Did I say there was something "inherently wrong" with free items? No, I said there's something wrong with giving some out for free and unfairly forcing others to pay for the same items.
  3. No, it about evens out. In the Halloween Wheel, since you could get many of the items with VRs, you didn't even have to roll onto them in the first place. So if you didn't spend VRs, you could've rolled a ton of times and missed some items that cost VRs, but you could buy them with VRs, anyway, meaning they were ultimately free. It also meant you were more likely to roll dupes if you bought all the VR items first. Now, because you are forced to roll onto them or buy them with multibucks, and because you're likely not going to spend any multibucks on directly buying any items until you've tried all your rolls, you don't actually get to capitalize off the "free extra tickets" that much and aren't that much more likely to complete the Wheel because you can't buy any with VRs.
  4. I'm glad you understand that we vote with our wallets. But we also vote with our voices. That's why people were mad with the first wheel and are still mad with this wheel, and why they choose to not spend and to complain about it here in the feedback channel. Your first reply to me in this channel was when I simply said I wasn't going to spend more on Embark because of this Wheel. So if all you have to say is "lol it's free to play," that's not a defense for unfair business practices, and no excuse for trying to shut critics up.
  5. "They don't need some other way of extracting money?" Why did they add the Wheel then?
  6. please spell "completely" right :(
deep summit
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Fix spawns ever since last patch a team will always spawn next to a cash that has 2 teams fighting, I am yet to get a game without being third partied.

next surge
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Will power shift ever get Las Vegas? I think it would be one of the best power shift maps if it was one.

Edit: thank you @untold haven very good to know

untold haven
quartz dirge
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Buff VRs gain dramatically
Easily one of the worst things about the new player experience, being stuck with what you have for plenty of hours before being to expand your arsenal just slightly

covert nest
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The sword is just such an absolutely horrid experience to fight against. Its more fun fighting 9 snipers than fighting 1 sword player.

nova osprey
# wide void 1. Once again ad hominem. ***I AM NOT GOING TO SPEND.*** Even if I ***DID*** spe...

Alright, since you don’t seem to understand, I will only be responding to your first point, and then ignoring you from now on. There is no exploiting. There is no creating FOMO. This is a problem with peoples self control. They release a skin. You don’t have to buy it, you don’t have to spend money on it. If you can’t understand that, then it’s obvious you shouldn’t be on the internet.

languid ibex
deep sierra
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Buff fcar!!! Buff fcar!!! Bring back nukes make everything meta again please. Was more fun when everything was overpowered.

sonic arrow
outer jetty
# dark estuary **Give medium a `specialization`** ***that can boost teammate's dps by 5%, it s...

Okay lets rewind then. So we both understand what we thinking about, And seeing the problem.

Your spot:

  • This should help solo queuers to make up the teammate who has lack of skills, preventing the frustration they face when their teammate have extreme skill gap between themselves and the solo queuer.
  • This will make the game more fast paste, equalize heal beam and defib and all season viable shields
  • Duos and trios will have better team experience over all, since damage boost is a deployable, they can fight along while help their team.

My spot:

  1. The reason why i call it to much, Because we have weapon balancing. And if you weapon balance, You also gotta work with this specialization. if you weapon balance as well. Sure but if you add a little amount of more damage to a weapon, It feels broken. Like what happen with AKM and FCAR war. When FCAR was legit the better end of AKM until season 4 did a rebalance (If i'm not wrong with season), To make it up for AKM and FCAR to be used as what they were intend to. If you add more damage to one of them. You can just melt players with headshot multiplier, You can "inta-kill" lights quickly. And if you give more damage to light with all of his weapons, It's just a walking death.
  2. Overall, Making a fix for solo queuers isn't a fix for adding an item for them only. "Will make everyone to use that", If you are lucky enough to have a great teamwork with this 5% or any small buff, It's a major change. A slight buff changes everything. God it will make R.357 godly 😳 2 shoots a light body YES! but god that's OP. We got a pike-556 right now doing better then R.357 now. Just a small change of increasing damage is insane, In my opinion.
  3. Even if it's deployable. It's a major change to defending tactics.
  4. If your team is lacking. Doesn't mean you have to buff them with damage. It's just matchmaking. I also blame matchmaking for having weird teammates from all kinds. (..) [Can't continue] DM for more.
dawn valve
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Buff light, fucking hell. I dont care if theyre op in casual i cant do SHIT in ranked Plat or diamond. I just get FISTED BY EVERYTHING. Everyones a fucking sniper, instant reaction times, and lights guns dont kill fast enough

wide void
# nova osprey Alright, since you don’t seem to understand, I will only be responding to your f...

Remember when you said this yesterday?

I mean if you don’t want to read it I’ll just assume I win this argument then
You're hypocritical as hell.

For the millionth time, just because you "don't have to buy it" doesn't mean it's not exploitative or offered in an exploititive manner. You don't have to drink, you don't have to gamble, you don't have to play the lottery, you don't have to have insurance, you don't have to have smoke cigarettes or harder drugs. None of these are things you're "forced" to do, but people are roped into doing them anyway either through exploiting human psychology or socially normalizing it. (Or systematic dependencies, in the case of insurance.) The "free" items here are to tempt people to spend on other items that they could have gotten for free and were denied purely by chance. It's quite literally inequity.

@languid ibex I said this earlier, but there are plenty of ways to monetize your game without using a literally unfair system based on chance. I paid money for their content before the Halloween Wheel. I will not support a company believing in unfair practices going forward.

jolly island
# sonic spoke 4 to make 0.25! lol

Yeah, the ticket parts should make a freebie ticket that guarantee an item, rather than just give another 0.07% chance to MAYBE get an item once per blue moon that occurs on a monday IF it's the winter equinox.

I've got less than 10 items, and im on my 4th day in a row of getting NOTHING but ticket parts, even for the refunded ticket (which I keep getting 3 ticket parts a day, plus the refund ticket's ticket parts, which means 4 tickets a day after that first day).

sonic spoke
frank jungle
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Make it easier to get people in your club

tidal saffron
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Give heavy a sniper PLEASE 🙏

maiden shell
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Make melee viable. Melee weapons should outperform shotguns if in their intended range

wispy sand
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Enable a map "pick" system, where you can limit the rotation of maps to a sizeable amount (preferably just remove one map from your eligible rotations) and then compare the map pool for all users connecting and select randomly based on that.

That way we can remove Kyoto from the damn game ourselves.

cyan crane
#

Just NERF M11 it's all this game needs now NERF IT

hard river
#

So itnerestingn console players are sooooooo goooood, yeah.. 😄
Please support more console players Embark, thanks!

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quick coyote
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spent 4 tickets and didn't received a single item, thanks for this shitty wheel hug_friend

wooden onyx
# left warren That the game is dead and there are a lot of really stupid people on console

It’s the fact that you cannot compete with monitors, better fps & mouse/keyboard. Thats a fact, PC has an unfair advantage. If the game was fair which it isn’t, there would be an equal number of console & pc top 500 but there isn’t. Top 500 is dominated by pc players, it isn’t because console players suck and it isn’t because pc is full of cheaters which its not. It’s just you cant compete with a controller vs a mouse/keyboard it’s like comparing shower gel & soap. They look the same, they kinda do the same thing but they are utterly different in their mechanics. If EMBARK was smart they wouldn’t be hemorrhaging console players, i know as a pc player you probably dont give a shit. But thats the truth, i mean as a console player i hit diamond this season already. But top 500? Nah not a chance i could make that,

oak kernel
#

I think the last two pages of the BP are still a bit too grindy. I'm out of seasonal challenges to do, and it seems like these daily's simply aren't doing me much good. I should be able to finish, but idk why it has to be such a grind.

Also, I don't get why some people act like they're bonus content just because they're called "bonus". If they're there from the start of the season, they're a part of the pass imo

rustic vault
#

Anyone else getting stuck in the secondary animation with throwing knives? Seems to happen when I use a throwable gadget.

nova osprey
# wide void Remember when you said this yesterday? > I mean if you don’t want to read it I’l...

See, the thing is that I actually read your argument, and you did that repeatedly with mine, and didn’t read them. The only argument of mine that you actually appeared to read was the last one, when all you did before was react by saying it was too long. I read all of what you said, and I already refuted your arguments. So instead of refuting them all once again, all I’m doing is responding to the first one again, instead of them all. I’m choosing to ignore you because I have already responded multiple times to you refuting the points you continue to make without changing, so instead of continuing this endless cycle of you refusing to understand why I’m saying, and the fact that even with you repeating the same points over and over I have made many more counterpoints, I’m going to ignore further messages from you. Good day, and enjoy your meaningless screaming into this server. 🙂

dark estuary
# outer jetty Okay lets rewind then. So we both understand what we thinking about, And seeing ...

replying to your point

  1. you cannot balance weaponry in any game, the fact people complain about something one shot something two shot is because they don't consider range, and alot of factor in play, if FCAR is better than anyother rifle that is Fcar's inbalance, 5%damage will only make existing problem more visible, players can have better TTK experience over all if they are using non-meta weapons too, all you need to do is kill a 350 health Heavy dude so.
  2. yes, it is balanced because of everyone can make use of it, i already understood it is a major change, like I said, the 5%damage will only make existing problem more visible, also, another idea, speed boost for melee users yes,
  3. idk what your point is, something wrong "changing"?
    4.let's say a dude with 30% accuracy, 5%more damage can def help him kill,and for the matchmaking part, yeah, skill gap match making exist in all games, the finals have more problem because we don't get enough players to fill the skill gap for now, so people are either teamming or have a shit solo queue experience, that makes the gap even more big, just dm me if you want to reply bro
crisp wolf
dawn valve
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Winch + Fucking anything is OP, REMOVE it or make it interruptible NOW. I'm tired of being in a scenerio that is UNAVOIDABLE INSTANT DEATH

IT EVEN STOPS YOU FROM SHOOTING AND THEY CAN SHOOT FIRST. FUCK UR BALENCE

@marsh vault Oh yeah in the game with lots of close corner combat and tight spaces sure idiot

tepid summit
#

more silly sandbox like stuff

wide void
# nova osprey See, the thing is that I actually read your argument, and you did that repeatedl...
  1. I've read every sentence you've written. At no point did I ever say I haven't read something you said. You're the only one who 1. complained about people not reading and 2. admitted to not reading. Hypocrite.
  2. You didn't refute anything. Your sole "argument" is "it's free to play so it can't be exploitative," which is completely absurd as I've shown through multiple counterexamples. You literally just chose to ignore them all.
  3. Enjoy being a bootlicker who can't follow basic logic.
marsh vault
maiden shell
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Make goolocking someone with a goo blob not allow movement at all

smoky gust
# marsh vault Skill issue, literally just stand outside of 10m bozo

funny saying that when many objectives are placed where you can't stay further than 10 meters away (or are within 1-3 meters of getting withing range of it at all times)

winch needs some form of actual counterplay/readability+delay that helps players avoid it
once that is the case im sure a decent amount of people would be fine with rebuffing it

left warren
# wooden onyx It’s the fact that you cannot compete with monitors, better fps & mouse/keyboard...

Nah you can. I've played on controller before its not impossible and the game gives you every settings option you would need. imho that's just a skill issue on you. you're blaming inputs and high refresh rate monitors on your inability to get better at the game. try maxing look acceleration with a sinusoidal look response curve then adjust everything else for comfort from there. that gives you the ability to turn as fast as you would need to fight pc light players. the aim assist works like an older halo game and less like modern cod which really does feel like it plays the game for you. there are controller players in ruby and top 500 I've had guides from those players in my youtube algorithm.

proven kettle
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nerf model harder

outer jetty
# dawn valve Winch + Fucking anything is OP, REMOVE it or make it interruptible NOW. I'm tire...

Fr? 0 Skills ha. You never tried using Winch claw as heavy, And how it's compared to "Charge ‘n’ Slam" how better performing then him. It also takes aim to catch a dashing light, Not easy. You can say the same thing to the Slug shotgun that heavy has. Why you don't complain about that then? Winch claw is in a 50/50 state. Same level as "Mesh Shield". Better off using Goo Gun 😳 OP beast.

You know that Winch claw isn't the most powerful thing that heavy has ya know? Even if it's stunlock tool, But it doesn't mean it's the most powerful one.

Don't start thinking Heavy needs a nerf just because you get killed easily from a heavy as light.

@rough storm , Huh? I'm confused to what to say. And what i reed. I will just say. Blame matchmaking. AND find friends to play The finals. because Solo queuing is like saying. I'm ready to gamble my teammates. Also if lights leave the team easily. It's just light players and they are trolling. (I'm gussing you wish you had MMM or MHH, MMH).

  • Edit: Also Your job is to win, and not die in a action zone. And if you don't have the teammates or the ability to protect your cashout, It's your fault and your team. Never blame anyone You can always try to use your team as bait if they aren't in your liking. For you to win and your team to win. (And if you aren't skilled enough and you still think you are better then them. Play safe)

There is no such thing called Luck -> Skill, There is luck to luck. And there is skill against skill. The Finals doesn't have any Random Luck, The only Random Luck you have, It's the buildings that collapse on you, Your cashout. And i'm sorry to say. But try to do better and counter ways that they can't do that. Find friends to assist you and communication will make you win. That's what 65% of the playerbase are doing. But the rest are solo queuing.

rough storm
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Plug cash should be removed and switched with 33% of the cash going to the team holding the cashout every 1/3d of the time.
Plug bonus was added in season 3 to counter third partying but we ended up with lights stealing the box and going for the plug bonus with their dash/grappling/portal and leaving their team to lose team fights resulting in a loss for both parties involved..
It's became a game of run and plug. Luck > Skill. With S3 becoming the downfall of nearly all skill involvement in this game.
Played a few games last days after a few months break and now i remember why i quit this game.
Solo queue is impossible and even with a good team you get the most kills game-wide, win all but 1 team fights and still lose cuz of the plug cash

wooden onyx
# left warren Nah you can. I've played on controller before its not impossible and the game gi...

I never said their isnt any console ruby players, i said that pc dominates top 500. That means there is an imbalance, every ruby player i seen on console has to play with pc players. I have yet to see a full ruby console stack because they just don’t exist. It’s not a skill issue because pc is thriving and console is dying. I know you like to throw around “skill issue” because you think its cute. The evidence shows that one side has a disadvantage, the reality is it benefits shitty players on pc to go against console players cause its easy pickings. You don’t want the gravy train to stop, i get it. If it was all pc vs pc players you would probably actually have to get good at the game because there would be a level playing field.

sonic spoke
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game is not playable right now. exploiting and hacking is out of control.

sonic salmon
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360 secs for respawn in quick cash is awesome.

quartz dirge
modern ether
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man idk how many times people need to share that the spawns in this game are so bad rn, legit in a ranked match spawned 140m away from both cashouts and right next to another team who is 4th and we were 3rd. So the game spawns the two teams who need the cashout extremely far and right next to each so they are forced to fight instead of going to steal. Please man I beg, fix this

I spawned in, took about 20m steps foward and already getting shot at

olive crown
#

I pretty much stopped playing this game after a while due to very poor matchmaking and toxicity. My complaint is that there are clans or just group of people playing together to farm casual solo players like me. I like doing contracts and finishing season pass but if there are contracts like "Get 20 Wins" then it's really difficult for me to complete that as solo. I do not understand why players are super toxic when I talk about the matchmaking. I get responses like "Get better then" like they are expecting me to go fight the whole team by myself.

@modern ether I also totally agree with you about the spawns. Don't forget to mention that sometimes the spawns will direct you opposite way where the objective is and causing disorientation for few seconds.

dark niche
# left warren Nah you can. I've played on controller before its not impossible and the game gi...

tbf though, even shroud said controller vs mnk should never be a thing hence why siege has a mouse trap, its honestly really bad having console vs pc, fps, mnk in general and cheaters, that alone will kill any console game, if you have a xbox check the feedback, many of it is pc cheaters, and crossplay feature, this is exactly why season 1 was the best season by far, even playing field and console was actually alive for once, seems to go down in players across all consoles, yet embark dont want to change it, cuz pc players have their say over console since theres about 90% pc player base.

smoky gust
# outer jetty - <@372891182562279425> A Repost if you didn't read. https://discord.com/channel...

that's the problem, it takes aim, that's it
if your enemy can aim, you will be winched and suffer the consequences
your only other option is to remain out of winch range, which sometimes means you don't get to engage the objective at all and loose by default unless you're willing to risk potentially dying immediately
its frustratingly uninteractive

even if it isn't the strongest one, youre just hoping your enemy messes up, instead of actively engaging, fighting, playing against them
its not fun

it needs added counterplay, after which it could be buffed to compensate, making it stronger, while also less frustrating to face, possibly even fun to outplay

devout grotto
#

Embark can console get MnK support back for 'crossplay on' please

outer jetty
# smoky gust that's the problem, it takes aim, that's it if your enemy can aim, you will be w...
  • Okay, I know the problem, But there is more problems in heavy that destroys lights MUCH quicker. And my reasons why i say winch claw isn't a OVERLY pain to fight against. Yes i get it. I would recommend to remove the stunlock early, But this is a huge blow if the light has a double barrel the heavy just gets himself killed. But it depends on the health of both of them.

But nerfing heavy isn't the solution, Heavy in this state is good, Yet still needs buff in some weapons are just useless. After the "Charge n' slam" nerf, It changed alot! And i felt it as well. But i'm still using it, Because it gives me alot of control and also close best control up-close. Lights can out-play heavy in many ways. But you can't nerf heavy just because he out-performs, It's matchmaking.

I still think the best option is to reduce stunlock mid-flight. That's it. It's that powerful. Because it doesn't damage.

But that's the job of winch claw. Put you in the most out of place. And if you meet that heavy in Ranked/World Tour, You will know that heavy has Winch claw. You will play far and annying against him either way.

Ofc, It's not fun to play against. But that's your problem getting close like that. And if you are light. Your job is to dodge that and be quick and dash into him, To make him miss. But that's all you get. To play Light. You are playing light. Not Medium. Medium can also out preform lights if they play better the lights. So don't start saying lights should get a treatment just because of that.

@olive crown , @modern ether , Both problems are indeed to be known.
(Poor Matchmaking, Unfair matchmaking) - It doesn't mean you gotta get better. You literally you are fighting against super sweats or, Grouped up teammates. And solo queuing is just gambling of hoping to win or lose.

(Spawnpoints, Spawning far as 140 meters) - It's known issue from embark as well. They did try to fix it a couple patches ago. I bet they will fix it.

plain sun
#

small thing, not really a big deal, but your weapon animations get reset to the default ones when respawning

full lynx
#

If you have to do another god-forsaken wheel event. Just give us the option to use VRs to buy additional tickets x.x

teal bear
lapis seal
#

Embark please give me more bucket hats I beg you

next rock
#

Ranked team balancing needs to change. Match people against their rank to stop smurfs boosting. So cringy

maiden shell
#

Apply damage ramp up to all weapons, there's already rangefinder in the game

tough merlin
#

@nova osprey Just going to leave this here since you apparently don't think its a thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out#:~:text=Fear of missing out (FOMO,could%20make%20one's%20life%20better

"Alright, since you don’t seem to understand, I will only be responding to your first point, and then ignoring you from now on. There is no exploiting. There is no creating FOMO. This is a problem with peoples self control. They release a skin. You don’t have to buy it, you don’t have to spend money on it. If you can’t understand that, then it’s obvious you shouldn’t be on the internet."

Now, We can get into semantics about what "there is no creating fomo" means but what's the point? the link still applies.

I don't know why its so hard for you to see that it is creating fomo you can miss out. It is exploiting that. Yes it is a problem with peoples self control but would it really be a bad thing if games didn't exploit that? Why do you insist on promoting a bad system?

nova osprey
dark niche
tidal parrot
#

When are we getting jiggle physics

unreal fossil
#

Thought of the day: Light is the most attractive class in the game, as much as its cancer, especially in casual game modes. I'm sure many people fell in love with the game due to how fun/challenging Light class can be, and I'm also sure many people, especially beginners, threw the towel early because of how infuriating the class can be. I'm starting to think that the class in its current form actually hurts the game more than it helps, and needs a deeper overhaul than just a few buffs and nerfs here and there.

quartz dirge
#

buff vrs gain

frosty cedar
azure spire
#

I beg yall stop giving me the "earn 1,000,000 total cash" contract, man that shit takes way too long when you dont play wt/ranked

young shoal
#

I think we should have a no shoes option, not cuz I’m a freak but none of the shoes rlly match my outfit and I’m running the cool disco ball body paint and I think they’d be cool by themselves

valid cradle
#

Game is unplayable with the amount of cheaters in this game. Holy fuck. Do something about your game?????

oak kernel
#

This last patch really made the game so much more unenjoyable. It's kind of crazy. The game feels glitchier, one of heavies abilities is basically canned, the goo gun got busted a bit as well, sword is really annoying, and in general the game just feels worse to play.

I really hope there's some tweaks in the next patch. Heavy feels really unfun in some ways atm due to the unintentional goo gun change and the winch change (CnS is all good). Shield still feels a bit weak imo. The recharge time is crazy long on it in general it feels

I really think making guns projectile across the board would be a good call and allow for way more interesting balancing descisions in the future, and introduce a lot more skill to aiming. Making everything a projectile outside of 10 meters I think would feel good.

torpid sky
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this game is pathetic

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next rock
tacit heath
maiden shell
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All weapons need to have a damage curve instead of just damage falloff so melee isn't fucked by shotguns outright

rough depot
#

game aint hitting the way it used to.

cobalt topaz
jagged cedar
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this game capitalized on the untapped market of uber-casuals which has effectively made the game impossible to develop without offending people

sonic spoke
devout grotto
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I actually really like the pike being kinda OP 😆 it being able to 3 shot lights finally feels like some justice for all the times I've been violated by M11

torpid sky
dawn zephyr
#

4 gadgets

maiden shell
#

I want 4 gadgets too

jaunty tulip
#

No

neon gazelle
#

Charge n slam barely works, RPG is pure garbage. You cant shoot down lights with 3 consecutive dashes when using controller. I m very close to giving up

jagged vector
#

Less nerfs more buffs and make it so medium isn’t the meta

delicate marlin
#

day 1 million of asking for the nades to be visible

past spire
opaque shell
jaunty tulip
next timber
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Here's an idea,if every game is mostly light players then Nerf the fucking light, come on Oscar or anyone just give us an answer as to why you keep buffing light, nerfing everything else and you don't think light is terribly unbalanced and over powered? You are killing a great game by trying to cater to the few ranked and high elo players, while pushing the casual fun players out the door you guys fuckin suck

gray flare
oak marsh
#

Cns and rpg suck 💔

neon gazelle
covert dagger
#

no more one shot backstab dagger. not when you cant get the hit registration down combined with dash. it's not unbalanced it's game breaking

sonic spoke
#

Can we please fix the freaking backstab from the front bs.

craggy mason
#

Things that make this game suck. Cloaking device, wench, stun gun, MGL, sniper. All of these are incredibly annoying

The constant nerfs, terrible servers, and awful matchmaking

@past spire you're missing the point. It's insanely annoying. People just sit back like snipers do and spam it to no end. It makes the game unfun to play.

past spire
# craggy mason Things that make this game suck. Cloaking device, wench, stun gun, MGL, sniper. ...

MGL when used correctly is one of the most rewarding and fun tools in the game. The counter? shotgun or melee him. light shotgun, dagger, and sword can all outperform CnS and chances are, he'll blow himself up. Ive been denied using mgl due to a simple swap or change in playstyle by the opposing team

I run away in fear when I see a sledgehammer. use a winch hook and that mgl user is useless and will deal more damage to himself than u will

devout grotto
#

Embark this request is one that will inevitably be in the game sooner or later so do it now. Add 1 more loadout so there can be 3 of each. 8 is a dumb number.

terse glacier
#

Just started playing again and on my 3rd ticket got a duplicate. I only had 2 out of 20 and I got a duplicate. I’m glad to see they listened to the community with making duplicates do something towards getting tickets, but they do realize that if you get one fourth of a ticket upon getting a duplicate it is just converting one whole ticket into one fourth a ticket? It seems pretty dumb to think of it that way, but at least it’s something. Can’t really complain about something for free.

What they should have done is let you give your duplicates to your friends, it is a valentines event after all.

slender girder
#

I'm still waiting for them to either add one ticket collecting day or give 3 tickets to all Playstation players that missed a day due to the outage. Pretty bad if they don't.

mystic drum
#

Is Power Shift or Terminal Attack getting the new arena Bernal? Or any other arenas?

white crater
#

Limited Time Mode: Random BS, Go!

I think an LTM that lasts an entire season where all the classes swaps around weapons, gadgets and specs would be cool. It would totally be really broken, but it would be a fun LTM.

Overview:

Week 1, switch everyone's gadgets: week 2 switch everyone's weapons; week 3 switch everyone's specializations. and then the final week jumble all 3 up.

Week by week

So like Week 1 (gadgets) you'd see Lights with RPGs, Dome Shields and Barricade; Mediums with Vanishing Bomb, Stun Gun, Glitch Nades and Breach Charge; Heavies with Defibs, Data Reshaper, Jump Pad, etc.

Week 2 (weapons), so now Lights have Sledge, SA1216, M60; Mediums have Sword, V9S, SH1900, etc; Heavies have Dual Swords, FAMAS, Riot Shield, FCAR, etc.

Week 3 (specs), so Lights would have stuff like Heal Beam & Demat; Mediums with CNS & Winch; Heavies with Grapple Hook and Invis

Then the final 4th week (everything), Lights would have Heavy's gadgets but Medium's Specs; Mediums have Light's Gadgets but Heavy's Specs; and then Heavies have Mediums gadgets but Lights Specs.

obtuse scarab
#

This event sucks. The challenges are bugged, damage and kills aren't tracked correctly, and why the hell am I able to get 4 duplicates in a row?!?!?! I do all of my daily challenges, all 3 of the tickets are dupes so I get nothing, then the 4th ticket i get from getting 4 dupes is also a dupe??!!!? Embark, what the hell. It's not even like I'm at 19/20, I only have half of the collection. Why have a completely RNG based event with 0 bad luck protection?

bronze pumice
#

DAY 2 OF ASKING EMBARK TO REMOVE DOUBLING FROM RANKED

latent niche
#

Every day I pray to god you add a permanent TDM mode for all of the serial objective ignoring knuckle draggers to go beat each other to death ad nauseum so the rest of us can you know... play the finals.

spare topaz
#

Make the free stuff more free because I have no self control.

honest siren
# next timber Here's an idea,if every game is mostly light players then Nerf the fucking light...

I know you must not have been playing since release but the game has already been ruined by catering to casual players. thats why the player count is so low.

theres more casual players than competitive ones i guess, thats why we can't have skill based things in the game like sword cancels. its not fun if u are casual and die to it, you blame the devs. now we have a game where skill doesnt matter. ggs.

edit:

can't have season 1 FCAR because you don't like people winning for having good accuracy, can't have high damage RPG because you can't have the foresight to expect the RPG to be in a heavies kit. can't have normal respawn timers when you own a cashbox because you want to have an easier time defending because you think you deserve it. can't have charge and slam because you dont like high damage specs. can't have invis because you want to know whats going on all the time. can't have stun gun because skill shots shouldnt win the game. can't have defibs because you think if you worked your ass off to kill someone then defibs shouldnt be allowed.

literally the whole game has been ruined update after update because people want an ez game

can't have season 1 throwing knives because if you use them then they don't do enough damage. Can't have season 2 throwing knives because if someone else uses them then you die too fast.

its always someone elses fault.

outer jetty
#

When are bots getting released for normal matchmaking, Good enough that i'm Silver~Gold Stuck and i'm fighting aganist Diamond/Emerald. How can this happen?

  • World Tour:

Why players like me, Have to fight against 2k hours players just because i perform well. I get it, There isn't alot of players and either good or bad all together. Causal players or not. BUT The rank exists to show where you at. Not where you fight because the matchmaking tests you consistently. If i'm silver or gold, AT least place me normally against ONLY golds or silvers depends how close i'm to ranking up.

Winning streak and then a loss. Sounds better then Losing streak then win and then lose streak again. I feel like Ranked Tournament is better off playable (kinda) then world tour, I do want to get Plat or Diamond items but it's impossible when you fight Diamonds or Emeralds because they are groups of people in discord. And i'm solo.

Talking about "solo", It's not fun or enjoyable solo, Because you see other groups are due or trio, How is this fair? Let me play only solo with others who want to solo. But i get this part as well, No enough players. But that's why i started to talk about bots. This is also what fixed matchmaking for other games who have bots. But making a bot that knows how to play and do tactical moves like all players do. But this can be limited to what ranks can have bots or don't have bots. Because most of the players are in those ranks don't need bots. But the ones who are blow rank Gold get bots but when there isn't enough for plat. then add bots when it's needed. Also helps players are far away from the majority of players at EU or US.

I also get the problem making bots for this game. It's overwhelming for bot thinking system when everything gets destroyed, They need to create a new AI/Nav pathway.

Anyways. The matchmaking is troublesome. And makes me feel don't want to play the game until the next season maybe.

vital hollow
#

Please add a Stim shot like gadget in for Lights. (“Energy Drink” & you can use the drinking animation alr implemented) The initial burst when activated can regen 30-50% health at animation end & slowly regens the remaining healththefinals

little wolf
#

How you doing Pernix, I know running into us is pretty rough, especially when you're trying to chill. Unfortunately the skill we play at is also us chilling and goofing around. If you'd ever like to stack with us instead of having to run into us, you're more than welcome into our discord. Other than that, GGs and GL in future matches!

stark pilot
#

Buff M1887 1 damage bullet

minor notch
outer jetty
#

Season 5, Should've added a Mexican skin with voice lines with the accent. It will bring stacks of cash come on embark 💀 (Literally only guy who likes to hear voice lines, Who else?!)

The more interesting accents the better. idk cook voice lines! 💀 🗣️

  • Mexican.
  • German.
  • Texan.
  • Russian.
    Brain fart idea right here.
eternal marsh
#

RS system needs a massive rework.

Grind for 2 hours to gain 1500pts, lose it in 1 game due to a DC first round or a massively imbalanced lobby.

spare topaz
#

Fix servers holy shit

winged wadi
#

Rebalance fuking light!!!

versed hazel
#

i want bernal back in the WT rotation

vestal basin
#

Guys, only mods here will look at this channel just to remove messages with dirty words
This channel is just a honey pot they made to remove the negative side of The Finals from the public, you should publish your thoughts on public platforms such as Reddit or Youtube so that the world can supervise Embark.

mint jewel
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Region lock should be a thing for China, they keep throwing and so hard to communicate. this is apparent for South east asia or even east asia region.

The amount of people from there that reluctant to even communicate with english or even try to talk is so bad its breaking the experience for the rest of us SEA and EA region

dense ivy
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Personally teams with turrets or snipers are infinitely more annoying than stun gun. “It’s just unfun to play against”

I don’t think they’re OP or should be nerfed, but they just are annoying and suck the joy out of a good team fight. Turrets literally have aimbot

@outer jetty WT is casual, it primarily matches you based on ping. The badges aren’t ranks, nor an indicator of skill, which is why they aren’t taken into account for matchmaking.

vital hollow
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please add a Stim shot like gadget in for Lights. (“Energy Drink” & you can use the drinking animation alr implemented) The initial burst when activated can regen 30-50% health at animation end & slowly regens the remaining healththefinals

fleet socket
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Update 5.10 will save us from having bad lights as teammates, I can't wait for their training wheels (stun gun) to be nerf.

half briar
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Hey yo I love how they sat down and thought "how can we make this game more fun and less frustrating?" And then they agreed "let's bring back the hated RNG wheel!"

"Tommy, you're a genius!"

spare topaz
#

real

visual pulsar
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So light r intended to be used as a scout class that can assasinate single ppl with burst dmg, the only gun that can do it without getting destroyed is xp54 imo,because medium having ak,fcar and famas with 250 hp is crazy,lights have mostly 0 chances to do it. And while u have ability to scount with the specialization u can do it outside only in big areas,and u cant scout in close spaces like buildings for example,because either u face a medium or heavy and u get destroyed for sure.

In S1 there was wallhack gadget for medium,tbh I liked it very much and the tweaked version of it wasnt that broken tbh.
Why not give light class that wallhack specialization,it would help them with the scouting ability in closed section and additionally find isolated targets to elliminate.

PLS ADD WALLHACK SPECIALIZATION THAT WAS ON MEDIUMS FOR LIGHTS,aswell as giving grapple a second charge because although cooldown is low its still doesnt feel better alternative than dash or invis

And adding pure deathmatch(ffa) would be great addition!!!

violet yoke
#

hey so id rather not solo queue rank and have the only controller players be my teammates (no im not turning crossplay off they need to just fix the even distrubution because controller players cant keep up)

tough merlin
# visual pulsar So light r intended to be used as a scout class that can assasinate single ppl w...

This has go to be bait. have you see how mad people are by the gutted stun gun? and the gutted invis? and you want to give lights a tweaked version of a spec that was so busted it got removed?

I do agree id like see to see FFA, or a better private match system similar to overwatches robust custom game system tho it doesn't have to be that robust just give us all the modes + tdm + ffa and a browser so people can warm up in a causal ffa lol

@violet yoke that's a you problem, you're encoutering more controllers because thats the majority of the player base. Iirc months ago embark released that the game had 300k conncurrent and at the time like 30k of them were on steam. They aren't going to be able to solve that issue without insaneeeee que times (much like turning crossplay off already does) and queue times are already getting bad in off peak. So sadly your solution is one you dislike (fairly cause queue times) would be turning it off.

@signal cosmos I wish they didn't remove reacting so I didn't have to @ you just to basically say, I agree. Lol

signal cosmos
#

I don't need a Roadmap, but it would be cool if stuff like Mid Season Patches were included in the World Tour timeline. This would also add those patches to the in-game lore which scotty and june could reference in matches. Like talking about a weapon being buffed while a player made a kill with it or talking about the Cashout rules being changed

valid wedge
static coral
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just console players that can disable vertical recoil in their settings

ionic grail
#

  • Remove Ranks entirely from world tour to differentiate from Ranked Cashout. (This makes it more align with the “Game Show” aspect and the week to week changing nature of World Tour also brings the Ranked Playerpool back up if they want to know what their rank is)

  • Add a new progression based system called “The Vault” where winning or making to second round etc. awards vault points and then allow different rewards: new cosmetics (free tier sort of like the Olympics Skins or the Sponsor ones) as well as MBs akin to the current system

(This allows players to still have a progression pathway into earning rewards without the stress of building up ranks as well as incentivising fun which should be the focus of World Tour)

  • Once all rewards have been unlocked you can then upgrade the vault to the emerald vault where you have to win tournaments like in S3 to unlock the emerald skins making it actually rewarding instead of just getting it essentially for free.

(Emerald has essentially lost all meaning, Season 3 had it pretty good with the “winning tournaments is the sole way to progress through emerald” since Season 4 it’s just become an indicator of play time and nothing else, this would reintroduce value in the emerald rewards, reintroduce a challenge for people to attain these rewards and improve player retention)

lilac coral
dense ivy
# static coral just console players that can disable vertical recoil in their settings

This is copium. Reset vertical recoil is largely meaningless except for people playing on gyro controls.

Vertical recoil is extremely easy to control on both controller and MnK although still easier on MnK.

Reset vertical recoil just sets the crosshair to the same level as your head which means even if you are absolutely spamming it, the most it can do is help when your enemy is on perfectly even terrain with you at the same height. Even then, horizontal recoil is already much harder to control on controller than on MnK, and reset vertical recoil by definition does nothing for that. Not to mention controllers don’t exactly have a bunch of spare binds laying around, so first you’d have to give up some other bind, second it needs to be in a place where you can effectively spam it without affecting the rest of your controls, which again doesn’t really exist because you only have two thumbs. Yes back bumpers exist for some controllers, but even console players with back bumpers don’t have that as an additional bind (ex: something like aux button 1), and can only make those back bumpers input one of the default buttons on the controller such as Square/X

and again, you can go through all that work, while at bare minimum disadvantaging yourself in some way by giving up a bind, all for a next to zero benefit because again, vertical recoil is already extremely easy to control anyway, even on controller.

@lilac coral it’s nonsense outrage Clickbait from YouTube.

@grim vigil
You absolutely can cheat on console, although the cheats are a lot more minor in comparison to what’s possible on a PC. Cronus and xim among others have existed for well over a decade and are largely undetectable.

Also ps5 and Xbox series X can do 120hz which targets 120fps although you get a noticeable reduction is visual clarity, especially at range.

swift laurel
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fix dagger i shouldnt be able to consistently backstab people in the face

gritty tangle
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As The Finals players, we should at least have the right to choose where we play in Quick Cash mode. Being constantly forced into the same maps—especially Kyoto and Monaco—has become frustrating and, frankly, exhausting. The lack of a map selection feature significantly reduces the enjoyment of the game and leads to unnecessary burnout.

It is unacceptable for a game with such a dynamic and fun combat system to force players into maps they don’t enjoy, at least in Quick Cash mode. There should be a map selection feature in Quick Cash, or at the very least, an option to exclude maps we don’t want to play.

Ignoring this issue will only lead to player loss. Please listen to your community and implement this much-needed feature.

winged wadi
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Embark - "beauties" buff shotguns so that Heavy becomes a useless class, well done, three shots from Cerberus and 2 shots from a sawn-off shotgun???????????????????????

tough merlin
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Start recording? What impossible stunts are you even seeing? such weird wording most people who cheat aren't pulling off obvious impossible stunts because its a shooting game where people are going to aimbot and or wallhack >.>. Even those most aren't going to be painfully obvious because they don't want to get caught. Out of the 450 hours I've played I've seen 4 people that were cheating incredibly blatantly 2 of them were in the open beta. Shooting everyone on spawn & or locking on to people through walls, and the only reason I was even certain the person locking onto people through the walls was cheating is because he was on my team so there was actually a spectate feature. Besides those 4 there's maybe been 20 or so that were so good that it was a maybe, but that's the thing people can be that good legitimately. Its really really hard to tell if someone is truly cheating or if they're simply better then the lobby, Especially with out a spectate & or replay system

Also "you can't cheat on console" is just simply false. You can cheat on any system. Its harder on console but its not impossible, afterall every single system has been jailbroken
Literally record & report people who you think are cheating, if they are they'll get banned

@wind meteor Thats simply not the case. Know what embark could of done? not made dupes a thing They're not giving out free stuff because they care, they're giving it out in the way they are because it quite literally generates more money. So yes predatory systems deserved to be called out Wheel = some free items when people get close to finishing it they spend money to finish it because they fear missing out. Those same people likely wouldn't of spent any otherwise. There's an entire wiki article on this its literally using and abusing psychology

I hit the word limit so i had to edit the periods out & Just deleted the dagger part.

wind meteor
half briar
dense ivy
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Delete cashout, replace ranked with Holtow Kart racing. Add vaping to the finals. Replace social security with the wheel. Put a tariff on the cash in quick cash. Give mediums and heavies reverse aim assist against lights

@wind meteor facts

@sort1s.#0000 meanwhile the SA1216 kills faster relative to both of those weapons, while having a much larger magazine, on a class with the RPG and mesh shield.

torpid sky
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tfw the devs listen to the community.

(for those who don't know marvel devs wanted to reset the ranks in midseason but received a backlash and in less than 12hrs they released another dev talk saying they've changed their mind)

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tough merlin
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Guess you're the unstoppable cheater to other people. 🤷‍♂️

On a serious note you're just making wild claims. No spectator nor replay can't really know how often they're missing can you? Recording isn't only going to report. You can record & watch your games back to get better along with checking your biases. Obviously it won't be as good as a replay or spectator but id wager you'd realize you were actually doing something like running in a straight line & or you'd hear the sniper actually missed 2-3x. When you're tilted you end up missing so many details.

I've seen quite a of people claim there's a ton of cheaters but almost none of them ever provide actual evidence.

Like I started with there's going to be people that think you're cheating if by your own words your crushing every game, but I assume you're not.

signal cosmos
dusky rose
stark pilot
#

Buff M1887 1 damage per bullet
Buff XP54 damage fall-off
let dagger, riot shield, duel blade can run when hold sec attack.
Give zipline to heavy.
Make goo gun can shoot a wall like goo grenade when use sec attack.
Make grenade more easier to notice.
Buff M60
Reduce revolver reload time
Reduce the time the stole time need

valid wedge
swift laurel
wise jolt
trail tundra
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Nah, you can front/trick stab super easy on dagger, you just need one of the stab frames to hit the back hitbox

fleet socket
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We need a wheel that we can spin VR on, the loot could swap out each season and afterwards would become buyable with multibucks. That way people aren't limited to the amount of spins and if they didn't get it they didn't play enough in theory

rancid cloud
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Need to fix the platform in Power Shift moving when it's contested.

wind meteor
# half briar The issue is that some people get little for free and others get it all for free...

It's fine, it's luck. @tough merlin

can people complain that some are winning more than others in the national lottery? even though, you are paying and losing, you can't complain.

I got all the items in the Halloween wheel except for one which I bought. Now, I've only got 8 and I keep getting dupes, why would I care if others are getting more? It's just my luck and I should be emotionally mature and accepting of it, since it really has 0 effects on the game and its enjoyment. Don't participate in it if you don't like it, you really have got nothing to lose.

My whole point is that, it's NOT some game breaking mechanics, nothing that you HAVE to complete to progress.
Would you have preferred if they didn't do any free skin system at all? Even if psychologically, you're being pushed to buy, you can still decide not to buy if you don't want to.

The only scary psychological pattern in here is the one behind the FOMO, which had become a staple in this generation's interaction. Everyone is calling for previous battle passes to be available all the time. Why? I am proud to have been playing since S2, and feel rewarded when I use its skins. Do I feel sad that I don't have the S1 skins? Yes, but only because I would have loved if I joined the game earlier. I would never want the S1 BP to be available again, because I am MATURE ENOUGH to accept that you don't get to get everything in life.

@torpid sky @dusky rose so what man? listening to the community doesn't mean everything the community says should be done. Have you seen the amount of conflicting nerfs and buffs on this thread? which to follow?
Also, Embark has proved to be listening. S4 brought back the ranked cashout... But you should know that Embark is a small studio and cannot instantly cater to big changes like that. That Chinese studio is huge, and resetting rank or moving it a bit backward, is easy to implement, hence the quick response. (+ it was discussed before the reset was done)

plain fern
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the prize wheel is such a scam. It is even worse than last season´s Prize wheel. Because of FOMO you want players to pay for the stuff. It dosnt matter if you get all the tickets, in this gamble you can almost forget to get everything until the end of this event. Last season you were at least able to get stuff with VRs. The 4 ticket parts are also not rly helping.

tough merlin
# wind meteor It's fine, it's luck. <@267094418740215818> can people complain that some are w...

That's cool I didn't sign up for a casino. If I go to the casino or play the lottery I choose to do that knowing how they are. I choose to play an fps which at the time had 0 ring. Yes I'd be happier with 0 free skins but 0 ring. Maturity has nothing to do with this, I don't like when games choose to use psychology to manipulate people. It's really that simple. If they want to give out free skins then do so. If they don't then don't. Making an rng wheel for it? Worst of both worlds because it's clearly showing that they only care about maximizing profit at the expense of some people.

Lastly id prefer they spend dev time on the actual game.

Phone msg rng auto corrects to ring.

@grim vigil quite literally didn't accuse you. Guess if other games are doing it better go play them?

I mean your clearly unhappy with the way things are. Clearly believe there's a large amount of cheaters and clearly don't believe embark will fix it.

Won't provide proof to embark or anyone of said cheaters either what else is left to do besides going to play one of the other clearly better games?

torpid sky
rich saddle
#

Does anyone else has a problem with damage registering lately in EU? It almost feels like that this problem affects only few and day to day it can change. It feels off in the past 1.5 month. Together with useless updates and totally killing Qm combo with SR-84 and just becomes impossible to play with weapons which require precise aim, such as Pike,Sr-94 and others.

proven crown
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Bring back nade grappling as a balanced feature by: Giving the frag a density effect for grapple users (with bigger hit box) as a kind of passive 'buff' to grapple via the frag grenade alone. This is genius because grapple needs a buff anyway, and it's not OP, while arguably decreasing frag spam

valid wedge
unreal marlin
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My suggestion from my own post in reddit:

Mayhem Mode: Defend your base (buildings) while destroying enemy's base in this 5v5. Loadouts are locked to Heavy only with pick between hammer or grenade launcher as primary and mines, gravity, lockbolt, RPG as gadgets.

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signal cosmos
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Idea for a World Tour stage.
Health Pack Spawners are able to spawn where barrels can spawn.
Those spawners spawn periodically health packs (like in other games)
The spawners have a lot of hp and are only movable by stuff that can move cashouts. The health packs themselves cannot be carried

untold hazel
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cashboxes should not go alllllll the way back once they fall of the map nah just on the last place it touched

wind meteor
steady breach
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I'm begging you embark, please change the 'caulking' animation for the shotgun back to how it was. Jab cancelling the caulking animation and being forced to caulk the gun after has made ks23 and the model 1887 much weaker in very close range engagements. It has made the guns ironically weaker than automatic weapons because it is much easier to combo jabs with it. I understand that shotguns should be weaker than melee weapons in face to face engagements but this has just made swords a massive problem for ks23. Beyond all of the balancing, it just feels awful to use. Being forced to caulk the shotgun no matter what makes the shotgun feels so slow and awkward. Ks23 really needs it, please.

(Changed to caulk because of censorship)

limber bluff
#

yea. all the guns that were affected by the qm change (except sniper) need some sort of buff since their usability heavily relied on being able to combo into a qm. ks and especially model since it just got a big damage nerf need something to make up for the loss in kill potential through qm

verbal bane
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Dear Embark Devs,

Please, please, PLEASE stop listening to the loudest complaining Light streamers / redditors and then nerfing Medium and Heavy.

The loudest whiners are producing an inaccurate picture of game balance.

long arrow
#

Your event is so cringe embark , i have 3 duplicates since 2days 😂 6 in a arow , its like 90% chance to get duplicate ? Or embark dont know dev statistics ?

slender girder
untold hazel
#

i love getting my daily dupes

drifting thistle
quartz dirge
leaden shell
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died 4 times getting stuck debri in kyoto get rid of it!!!!!!! even got someone new to join the game and they said that map is dogshit

grand plaza
#

fix ranked please

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lean bluff
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13 out of 20 items unlocked in the weel got like 5 duplicates in a row now! change the amount of duplicates u need to get from 4 to 3

grim sedge
wind meteor
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man, read what @analog anchor told you again. You've completely misunderstood him. He said of course when you soloq you will NOT be as good as a 3-stack party, and that the game cannot afford to have a separate queuing for solos.

celest forum
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Allow mesh shield juggling. You have given plenty of tools for this not to be an issue. Glitch mines, glitch traps, glitch canisters, Stun gun, winch claw, C&S.
Please stop the nerf mentality. If mesh shield juggling is an issue then buff the items I mentioned above.
A beautiful part of this game in the beginning was EVERYTHING had a counter, even if it was OP.
The counter for nukes was APS OR simply shooting the inbound canister, but instead you deleted them from the game, even though its clearly in the first trailers of the game.
This isn't COD, everything doesn't need to be balanced, there just needs to be a good/viable counter.
If said counters aren't working, buff them some more.
If the community doesn't learn to adapt, it's their fault

storm tide
#

remove stun gun for a day

hidden idol
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I love new hats, modes, maps etc. as any other but it's time for you to finally adress the core issue that prevents the game from truly blowing up, the optimization. It's just absurd to think that the game looks like it has permanent motion blur, has severe ghosting issues and runs like a potato. I have sometimes some FPS issues with a top tier 3D processor which doesn't throttle whatsoever and that's just a big nono, how are people with lower end CPUs going to enjoy the game? All successful competitive games have 1 thing in common, they run on potato PC's, you really need to adress the optimization issues.

Also @torpid gull it's just your average SBMM system, I have it probably way worse than you, since I'm way above the average player my teammates are literally new players I don't mean by that they play bad and assume it, no I mean they admit they are completely new, they literally picked up the game a couple of days ago, didnt unlock anything yet and don't know whats happening.

oak sorrel
#

Well at least you’re in the right channel this time lmao. Just wish you’d realize the common denominator in all your shitty teams is yourself

torn plaza
#

this wheel make me sick, i got already 15 duplications

languid valley
quick coyote
#

Love you embark 🙏, I love this game!

visual pulsar
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So light r intended to be used as a scout class that can assasinate single ppl with burst dmg, the only gun that can do it without getting destroyed is xp54 imo,because medium having ak,fcar and famas with 250 hp is crazy,lights have mostly 0 chances to do it. And while u have ability to scount with the specialization u can do it outside only in big areas,and u cant scout in close spaces like buildings for example,because either u face a medium or heavy and u get destroyed for sure.

In S1 there was wallhack gadget for medium,tbh I liked it very much and the tweaked version of it wasnt that broken tbh.
Why not give light class that wallhack specialization,it would help them with the scouting ability in closed section and additionally find isolated targets to elliminate.

PLS ADD WALLHACK SPECIALIZATION THAT WAS ON MEDIUMS FOR LIGHTS,aswell as giving grapple a second charge because although cooldown is low its still doesnt feel better alternative than dash or invis

And adding pure deathmatch(ffa) would be great addition!!!

vocal shadow
#

i didnt really have an issue with the wheel until yesterday tbh. i mean i only had 3 tickets from dailies so i only had 3 things to begin with starting yesterday. but i ended up getting a duplicate item with my first ticket from my first daily yesterday and honestly, that was pretty shitty considering i dont play this very much to begin with and it was only the 4th roll out of 20 obtainable items. I'd understand if i had obtained at least 10 out of 20 since the odds are 50/50 from then on. but 3/20 and i get a duplicate roll on the 4th spin?

mossy karma
rancid sorrel
#

nerf melee
make riot SHIeld breakable

polar shell
#

EMBARK: I LOVE YOU DONT EVER CHANGE!!

random sparrow
hidden idol
naive gust
#

this playerbase, and maybe devs but I hope not, dont seem to understand the important of movement.

winged wadi
#

Nice smoke granade embark

upper citrus
plush grotto
#

Give fcar +1 damage

silent fog
#

Crazy to me how you keep repeating mistakes...

maiden shell
#

Please keep googun exactly how it is

slender pine
#

buff light sword and nerf mediums (and never switch from Kyoto and Vegas)

opaque epoch
lavish shard
#

Nerf meta light cloak db m11@crystal tide
Goo nade
Glitch
Shooting
Nade
Reshaper
Demat
Turret is easy to counter

craggy mason
#

I love this game. It's fun and love many aspects of it. Some things annoy me to the point I look for alternatives.

Mostly I play casual cash out. Some things that are incredibly frustrating.
MGL, sniper, cloaking device, stun gun, wench, double barrel

These are the things my friends I play with also seem to get frustrated by. It's just very annoying, often toxic or spammy type gameplay.

I don't think any items need a nerf except maybe cloaking device. It would probably be better to have it exactly like thermal vision is. No juggling, just a set time and recharge.

Anyways, even though I don't think those items need to be nerfed I do think casual would be much better without them. Would be way more appealing to new people coming in or to people who just want to unwind after work with friends.

Many of my personal friends and coworkers have stopped playing the finals. Mostly because of the light class and the addition of all the melee, wench claw stuff

We mostly played casual. So hopefully embark can make this game mode more appealing like when I first started in S2

fluid willow
#

I think your social networking is terrible. Why can't you set an ID in the game? You have to go to the website to set your ID. Have you ever thought that there is not even an option to add friends? The overall social networking is very complicated. This is not very user-friendly. This wrong setting will make it impossible for your game to maintain its popularity. I hope the official will improve it. Your game promotion and social networking are very bad. As a competitive game, you don't even do this most basic thing.

buoyant mural
#

cheers guys SWORDUPYOURBUM is totally a bannable name definelty very offensive (please unban my name) and dont listen to thr guy above hes just bad

weary pine
#

LH1 still has no effing recoil. Last patch was a big ass L!

delicate basin
#

add hitboxes to cosmetics or make it so they don't have the team color outline

gilded dagger
#

Speed up the health regen in power shift holy shit. We aren't all wannabe TTV sweats. We just wanna play the fucking game instead of hiding in a corner for 30 seconds

sleek blade
#

add mnk support to console

jade imp
#

Hey man, try searching here or on reddit for better players to queue with. SoloQ is broken, no advice other than you'll need to hard carry 12+ kills and defend double stacks regularly. I play WT a few times a week if you want to queue up some time @torpid gull

tall spoke
#

DAY
25
OF
asking for 5v5 cashout variant

dull zodiac
lost talon
lavish shard
#

Nerf light DB

crystal tide
#

turret high elo meta oppressive nerf

okay

bold vine
rapid stream
autumn musk
cosmic ether
#

here we go again..

obtuse wedge
# verbal bane Dear Embark Devs, Please, please, PLEASE stop listening to the loudest complai...

i was thinking the same long time ago, until someday i realized, its not only those redditors and streamers and so called "pro players", theres a dominance voice within the team that favors L. So no matter what u or we say, doesnt matter too much, after all, they also been nerfing all the stuff ever since release, and still wondering why pop shows a down trend, and thinks, "ohh, its because we havent nerf down enough 👽 "

@drifting thistle basically filter and read "buff light"🐔 they say theyre listening, but why does the pop keeps going down right after each new/mid season updates release.

main knot
#

This PC/console lobbys Is fkn stupid.

stark pilot
#

Nerf turret is the most stupid thing I have seen. I show what the fxcking noob just complain.

smoky gust
# celest forum Allow mesh shield juggling. You have given plenty of tools for this not to be an...

i don't think that's a good mentality to have because it forces the player to equip certain items, even if they dont want to
this limits loadout variety and player expression, which in turn makes the game stale and less fun imo

for example aps, while running cl-40/mgl, you either had to run reshaper or rely on a teammate
otherwise you were pretty much out of luck
now with loosing health on intercept, its an advantage, but not a free win
you're might be better off running reshaper, but you dont have to, leaving players that can successfully play around it with more options
it can be satisfying to work around it too sometimes

i am massively grateful for the path they took on this and hope they keep moving in that direction

sterile patrol
slender girder
# sterile patrol That's not embarks problem, ask the playstation support team for compensation.

Normally if a game hosts an event and an issue occur, they tend to extend it. And you can only contact Playstation if your acc has been banned btw. From what I've seen.

And to add to this, the wheel is made so that many will spend extra money to get stuff, which is OK to me. But Embark not acknowledging and extending for the PS players makes it look like they're hoping to profit extra from the mishap of these players that missed a day of tickets. Which is a bad look. @sterile patrol

hidden idol
dry lichen
#

if someone uses cloakbomb while you have thermals on, they turn invisible

low falcon
#

The wheel. The wheel. All I can think of is the wheel, I haven't been able to sleep ever since the return of the wheel. I lay in bed and stare at the ceiling as thoughts of the wheel invade my mind. I think about the wheel everyday, my fingers tremble, cold sweat drips from my back, the sounds of the wheel never leave my head. All I can think of is its dazzling lights and its vibrant audio cues. I crave hearing the voice of Scotty after a spin of the sacred wheel, I miss the sound of my congratulations as I land on duplicates for the twentieth time. I love the feeling of queuing into powershift to complete my three daily challenges. Every spin of the wheel brings happiness back into my life, the light to my eyes, and the hope for a better tomorrow. Spinning for limited time cosmetics could only have been thought by a genius, that genius, creator of the wheel has blessed my life. The wheel changed my life, it will never be the same after experiencing the wheel. My eyes water, I can feel tears run down my face as I ponder the glory of the wheel. I write this with a dolorous gaze.

terse glacier
#

They should add a trading system.

ionic grail
#

FCAR ✅
AK✅
Model ❌
XP ✅
Heal Beam❌
Defib ❌
MGL & CL ❌
Pad & Zip ✅
Shak✅
Reshaper ❌
Mines ❌
FAMAS❌
Pike ✅ (only if the Damage buff gets reverted)
Winch ✅
Sword ❌

Heavy doesn’t need a sniper or a DMR ever.

brave copper
woeful plank
#

FIRST PRIORITY FIZX YOUR HORRIBLE SERVER AND LATENCY ISSUES PLEASE

untold hazel
#

nerf db double barrel shotgun

sonic arrow
smoky gust
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we have clubs now, they had some time to settle, so naturally were getting more 3-stacks than before
i think it would be a good idea to work with that a little
please try to match them together

that way they will be less disruptive to solo play, and (hopefully) get more evenly matched enemies that also coordinate

to reduce matchmaking times (and fill in the 3rd slot for a coordinated duo), solo players will still need to fill in sometimes
i would make it open with a pop-up of some sort, saying that you have been put into a stack lobby
and in return, give the player some xp-boost as if they had been in the stack to begin with

that way, solo players would be less frustrated, knowing that their increased effort of going up against stacks was rewarded

jade imp
# untold hazel nerf db double barrel shotgun

Use mines, glitch trap shields, riot shield, dual blades or any other one of the counters for this weapon.

If you're fortunate enough to have a team you queue with, play as a team and make the easy trade when you're killed at literal melee range.