#👂┇game-feedback
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fix the bug for headshot more than 30 meter for another weapon . I lost count how many headshot doesnt count
please make smoke more reliable/thicker
Make the rpg rocket jump
Its a glorified grenade now
Would be cool if we could control our turrets with the tablet or just keep it in automatic mode like wheelson in cod games
Earnings in Powershift will now count towards the total cash earned on some Contracts

probably the only good thing that happened in s5 so far LOL
not nerfing charge n slam in any way, but BUFFING it again against a CC spec is just wild. please, please, GET REAL. NERF CHARGE N SLAM, IT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED SINCE THE GAME'S INCEPTION
- please buff molotov cocktails, gaz nades,and glitch traps at least we can counter lights without excessive nerfing and reworks
- reward players for performance with more celebratory effects in the maps
Reduce the opacity of smoke and dust from sources that are NOT smoke canisters or smoke grenades
Please change the 15 headshots from 30 meters, I seriously hate sniping
I cant equip my scope even when I clicked equip 100 times, pls fix this bug
nerf slam and lh1
Charge ‘N Slam needs a rework/nerf
The damage is way too high for a specialization, which is ironic as they nerfed the RPG because they didn’t want high damage dealing gadgets (essentially the one-shot lights), but leave CnS alone when it can one shot anyone. There’s already been discussion about having the damage ramp up when used instead of dealing constant damage throughout the entire duration. Say 4 hits for 50 -> 100 -> 125 -> 125 which still has the same breakpoints as the 130 + 50 consecutive but isn’t dumping all that damage right off the bat.
The cooldown time is far too low:
12 second cooldown for CnS is criminally low. It’s the second lowest cooldown in the game tied with the tracking dart and only beat by THERMAL VISION of all things. By the time you run away from panic slam, they have the ability to shoot you at range and have it back again by the time you re-engage.
Honestly, the only change I would think is needed to make it much more bearable is for it to be countered by glitch.
Literally every single other gadget/specialization is countered by glitch. Why is CnS not?
The new update is awesome, specifically for power shift now counting towards cash earned on contracts and teams not being able to spawn right next to the cashout like they were before.
The UI is still kinda wonky and clunky in some ways. I have to go really slow when selecting and deselecting weapon animations or else the UI will have a conniption, for example.
Fix once and for all the bug with the heavy's spear right-click attack. I'm tired of playing and suddenly, when I want to attack, the character just starts walking slowly and can't do anything for the entire duration of the attack animation.
Positive feedback for once. Thank you devs for not being blizzard. That's all I've got to say. :3
Embark, can you please fix your Community? It seems to be full of whiners who like to complain about your amazing, free to play, game. These people would rather call your game broken than try different loadouts that can actually counter 99% of whatever they are complaining about. Really!? I mean why can't they just hit the easy button and win automatically every time?
Speaking as a heavy main, the charge n slam is the most unbalanced aspect of the heavy class. The reach of the charge is much farther than the swing of a sledge, because ya know a shoulder should reach farther than a sledge swing that totally makes sense. Not to mention how easy it is to chain hits with it because if you get bumped straight you have no way of moving out of the way to dodge being it again. It does way too much damage too quickly with very few counters and now y’all have removed one of the only ways to stop it. Why are you spoonfeeding the charge n slam users when there are several other problems that heavies have been dealing with that still remain unaddressed?
Barricades still don’t place well, and even sometimes still glitch and disappear or make the placement sound effect but don’t go up. Winch claw and sledge still have ridiculous levels of inconsistency with hit registering. Not to mention the very inconsistent environment breaking physics patterns
Then you still get the glitch where sprinting suddenly stops (for all classes not just the one that was fixed here with charge n slam) and there’s still a glitch with gadget switching using scroll where it skips over items out of order.
but how is it a problem? u can turn it off and just play with other people on ur platform??
Because there are hackers on PC and MnK is a huge advantage in online shooters? There isn't that problem on console which is why most games don't include pc in cross-platform play unless you specifically have a pc player in your party. I literally spelled this all out.
There can be hackers on console too, what’s your point. You can’t complain when we as console players have aim assist, you can still win against PC players you just have to put up more of a fight.
A random teammate in world tour was hating me becoz im a turrent user. he was trash taking alot and also said a N word to me for no reason. this was the 1st time happened to me in the finals,ig. that really made loss the motive to play this game and he was toxic. hope u guys take an action against him. his username was "MISTERZEERO#6572".
Reporting rn
Forget everything else, these are the issues that most need fixing:
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Performance has been tearing at the seams since release. The destruction system is revolutionary but it clearly has its consequences. Frames, terrible audio mixing, server issues, general jank; all core features suffer. It all needs desperate remedying.
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The downtime via respawns/health regeneration/map traversal is insane. Has there ever been a game that plays as fast as this yet has such intense troughs of inactivity? Respawns can extend up to 45s, health regen up to 18s with an additional 10s every time another instance of damage is taken, & each life can require hundreds of metres to be travelled across fairly complex maps to encounter any action, all without an Apex-style traversal system. This is most problematic in Quickplay modes.
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The game modes, especially the core one featured in Ranked & WT, have innate issues. The aforementioned downtime affects all modes. Third partying in Cashout cannot really be solved without hard rule changes such as forcing 1v1 team matchups. Erratic spawns can decide the result of a match. Ranked matchmaking should always absolutely prioritise match quality; that Diamonds can face Silvers is an absolute mockery.
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Game balance has some catastrophic flaws. The disparity between classes, particularly health values, presents significant issues that have existed since release. Many FPS sins are transgressed - immobility, crowd control, oneshots, invisibility. Implementations of such features have to be especially considered but most are poorly done. Ridiculous deaths (eg Invis + Stun into SH1900) also aggravate the egregious respawn times. Bad recoil patterns don’t belong in a fast arcade game like this & they most harm casuals. Movement should also feel much better.
LOVING the new world tour week gimmicks, hoping stuff like this comes back often
Is aim assist on the cross platform lobbies? My buddy said he didn’t feel any
PLEASE can mediums get a “let me heal you” callout? Like if I’m holding the healing beam and actively chasing a heavy at low health that won’t stop gd moving, the “right behind you” callout should change to “let me heal you” if you’re holding the healing beam. PLEASE.
word, sniping doesn't even make sense in an objective base game..
This would be a goated callout
season 5 has been nothing but goated…
bro buff the other weapons or nerf famas also the stair rail on stairss in sys horizon fucking collides with ur bullets for no reason
BRING BACK THE 'BUB-BYE' WHEN YOU QUIT PLS EMABRK (I liked the bubye)
pov The finals in 2025 ! i love u embark
Stop talking omfg I don't want to reply to every lobotomite that think he knows better. Console does not have hackers. At worst it had xim users which by itself proves that MnK has the edge over controller, End of story. You literally admitted in your own reply that I'd have to work harder to get the same result as a pc player. Aim assist literally exists to compensate for the delay you have changing direction on a joystick vs a mouse. Again this isn't the debate channel. Mind your business especially when you don't know what you're talking about.
so before for weeks I played against players no better than me, and three days ago everyone suddenly became better? What is this if not broken matchmaking?
Slight correction, winch also works through glitch
Facts on factory, Berwyn.
Nerf LH1
Change the dagger's right click to be able to 1-press again, almost like the throwing knives as they are currently implemented differently with the same patch flavor text. Patch 4.0.0 uses the same description: Dagger - The Dagger’s backstab secondary attack can now be held, only triggering when the button is released, rather than automatically. During this stance, the player moves at the normal run speed and cannot sprint. Throwing Knives - The Throwing Knives secondary attack can now be held, only triggering when the button is released, rather than automatically. During this stance, the player moves at the normal run speed and cannot sprint. Within test range Throwing Knives and Dagger behave differently.
The bottom line is all of us have no experience balancing a fps, and most of the proclamations made here are normally from emotion after a bad game, or just straight venting about a bad experience
could there be a small penalty for when theres a lack of diversion in specialization use? cause the turret is ok and all but theres just no fun when theres a team full of mediums and only turrets cause it just kinda blocks out everything
Add the option to change de color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
Embark, I've said it a hundred times already, I've been warning you since Season 2: you need to change the matchmaking; it's completely broken. As I've mentioned, I've been saying this since Season 2, and as people have been leaving the game, the matchmaking system has worsened due to the remaining base players.
the only balance change in 3 weeks being CnS being immune to grav vortex is crazy. yeah the game is probably the most balanced it's ever been but that doesn't mean they shouldn't still be tweaking values of weapons and gadgets. balance changes happened only in the beginning, middle, and end of the season is not enough.
as someone who's been playing since season 1 there are more than a few things I believe the balance needs to be "perfect".
light is never going to be that good in ranked unless it's weapons are some of the strongest in the whole game, gets another valuable team or objective based gadget. or if lights get more health (probably 175 hp at max)
the medium ARs need to be differentiated more. famas is perfect where it is imo. the AK should get its 36 rounds per mag back. fcar should have its recoil smoothed out more.
The amount of people who "quit" yet lurk in the discord like a partner with Stockholm Syndrome is crazy lol. Atleast give some actual feedback or do something else.
please turn off crossplay on default, it should not be a featured froced on
reset the game
Another reason to ask for a Contract Reroll. Why are contracts like these still in the game? They are NO FUN. JUST BRING BACK THE CONTRACT REROLLS MAN!! IT'S NOT THAT HARD. IT WAS ALREADY IN THE GAME. I DON'T GIVE A FLYING F IF I GET THE SAME CONTRACTS AGAIN, JUST LET ME REROLL THEM!
nerf charge and slam there shouldn't be a specialization that makes u run as fast as a light on a heavy class and deal 130 dmg on contact with enemy
It’s really janky, at least in my opinion, I don’t really like it but it does help close the gap.
Add granades indicators to frag granades.
Change the final round to make it more fun and active
this is random but can we get a british sounding male face like dede
Don't stop playing a good game because of bad players. I've reported cheaters before and received thank-you messages from Embark. I imagine this case would be similar since it's not okay to have that kind of behavior in the game.
im convinced they dont add this on purpose because its "realistic" in a vr gameshow. also it would be a huge hidden nerf for lights that spam them everywhere.
🤡 embark
Why? I want this game to die, so this delusional community can rest in peace, I'm a hero, I help people to avoid this trash game. Hello, people, Delta Force and Marvel Rivals, free, they ban cheaters, go play those, let this thing rot in hell. Oh, and next time, avoid games related with Nexon, it's always the same. 🤣
FSR3?
Add heavy gadget that's litteraly just a two handed shield.
skill issue
Honestly it’s cool that this is the only game without grenade indicators. Without the ability to cook them, how would anyone land frags if you could just run away from the indicator? Developing the heads up awareness to spot and avoid thrown frags is an interesting expression of skill and should stay in the game
Please, please, limit 1 defib per team and no healing players during combat, give at least a 3 to 5 second buffer from not getting hurt before healing starts.
Having 2 healers both healing a Heavy makes it almost impossible to kill.
The 5 second "respawn sickness" kind of helps but what i think would work better is you can only revive a teammate with a defib AFTER 5 to 10 seconds from them dying, or right away manually. A 3 man medium team are constantly just reviving one and other. Its just not fun.
Then matchmaking. Im silver, how am i getting into games that are gold and being partnered with special individuals that have never played before?
We need something new fuk it. cash out Royale where several teams have to fight for a cash out (there's multiple around the map)and every so often the team with the lowest earnings gets eliminated until there's two teams who fight a normal cash out😌
Bro cannot handle shooting at moderate distances
I feel that Heavy relies too much on a Medium healing beam to get their health back. Or not. I don't know, I just want a pretext to do a TF2 reference
New gadget for heavy to start healing earlier: the sandwich. I'd let sprinting but not shooting, animation of eating last for as long as you need to use a grenade (like, 2 seconds I think?), only starts natural healing but is not brute healing (like, getting shot stops the healing), and may have 2 charges? I don't think it would be too strong.
ok i gonna delete friends innactives
Did you even read? Do you even have reading comprehension? I said it's NO FUN. If being on your ass from narnia all day is your cup of tea, then more power to you but if you can explain how it's fun, you're welcome to defend the contract.
"Oh just stay far away from the heavy and you'll be fine"
Its an objective focused game. I agree, Charge needs a rework.
guys for some reason i have frame limit with unlimited frames
yes
this would be so nice for heavies. could definitely be 1 charge on a short cooldown, but would probably need to frontload some health (like 25 hp) followed by starting natural healing. or 2 charges on a long cooldown (but it only starts natural healing like you said)
It would be cool if we could get retrospective diamond badges from previous season. I got ranked diamond 4 in season 2 and would like to show it off
so I was playing a game with me and a friend and then when our team got wiped the countdown for us to respawn was like 600 seconds, anyone else have this issue?
Still no FSR 3.1, the dev team is just running away from this feature at this point
im crashing in game lost of times, only happens back to back to back
does steam friends count?
@tall spoke yes please, new gamemode dont replace old
day 6 of asking for 5v5 cashout
5v5 cashout would be hard fr
Ong when I have more than 2 friends playing we are forced to play power shift, and I just want to play world tour bro
You could easily move the emerald rewards to powershift / terminal attack. WT and ranked are almost the exact same game format.
5v5 qc would be crazy
Embark, this is day 78 of your game lagging me out for 3-4 minutes between every game. It’s triggered upon starting the main menu screen. I’ve spent a total of 5 hours just…waiting between games. Please find out what the cause is.
Love that the idea of a 5v5 mode is getting a bit more traction
Please embark, make it happen
I think an attack and defend version of Powershift would be interesting. Like TF2, a more traditional push the cart mode
It’s gray sweatpants season in the arena
hmm fair enough.
Non-stop cheating sweat fest against the same 15 players…
…fix your damn game , balance it, market it, add sbmm, I do not understand y’all whatsoever
… never seen a team care so little about what matters in their game , must be trying to let it die
STOP letting diamonds triple stack in low plat lobbies!!!!!! They want to play as team? They can play vs other 3stack diamonds
Snowy Kyoto should not be in ranked. Terrible FPS and terrible visibility, snowy maps are literally unplayeable even on mid range pcs
Stop letting the matchmaker queue golds into top 10 lobbies.* The gold players hate it, and the top players are so bored of ranked being as difficult as WT
In mid & late 2024, I would get crashes every time I played. But at least since December's updates, my game has been MUCH more stable.
Yeah there's stuff I still think should evolve, balance should improve, etc. But I do want to recognize that things are definitely getting better. I appreciate the commitment.
Pls Buff F-Car on Range and Pls Buff Pike on 50 Dmg for now its just useless in so many cases.
Remove stun gun and give us medieval armor please
How is it that an unranked player gets matched up in silver and gold lobbies. I literally got 2 unranked on my teams while all the other teams were squad up super sweaty. We absolutely got crushed into coins. How is this ranking system justified or fair?
PLEASE allow other eye colors and styles to be used on the Arch Rival face. There are so many to choose from, yet you can only use 3 options. 🙏 🙏 🙏
__ 5v5 CASH!__ 🗣️ 🔥
__ 5v5 CASH!__ 🗣️ 🔥
__ 5v5 CASH!__ 🗣️ 🔥
call it Mega Cash or Big Cash or whatever, make a NEW gamemode
you guys made 3v3 Final Round, then didnt put it in public queue - please dont make the same mistake
@analog anchor gotcha thanks
Please make charge damage ramp up it is insane that you can shoot a light one time and then press q and instakill them
Yes. And guts great sword skin for sledge
bro is FUMING at the fact it's "no fun" to stand barely double the distance for the range of the freakin' DATA RESHAPER. Just try a strategy that isn't running directly into enemies xd ADS will help too ;) I guarantee you also think shotguns are NO FUN to fight against as well if you don't know how to respect distance😳
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the game works like shit after the last 2 updates. why is it so damn laggy. 4070 super here
Bro is literally stupid lmao can't understand english 💀 Why tf would you run directly into enemies if you need to be shooting 45 meters away? Bruh. Let me remind you, you're in game-feedback. My feedback is that the contract is not fun. Imagine finding standing from far away and shooting fun 💀 It's literally like bird watching. Again, if that's your cup of tea, idgaf. It's my feedback.
Also, why would I think shotgun is not fun? You don't sit back and shoot while you're on shotgun. That's what's fun about it. Stupidass
cross play is forced in ranked or wt im pretty sure
Nah that challenge is just bad, it's not even hard or anything just you have to "throw" to be able to progress it. Why would I wanna sit 45m away from my own cashout so I can get a challenge done? I shouldn't have to play powershift once a week just to not throw matches.
@round hornet can't really avoid challenges now that the reroll option has been removed
@wispy sand my fault I think a challenge is bad cause it's an objective based game where the objective is mostly inside buildings. Also that's not even challenging, could just give me get 15 kills in a match if they were supposed to be a challenge
What the fuck is the reborn time coming up to 600+ seconds???
You could also simply avoid doing challenges you dislike. What is the point of a challenge if it doesn't change how you play?
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING
That is your NPC brain suffering FOMO because you can't fathom a little bar not being complete or having an item. YOU are the sucker every game wants because you just HAVE TO HAVE THIS OPTIONAL THING.
Be better than your programming.
Game Companies hire psychologist and shit to figure out how to pull in people like you the easiest. Be more than their desired product.
Ok I'm done. There are TWO THINGS who needs to be fix and fast :
- NETCODE : I'm done getting instant kill in one frame behind a wall or at 5 meter from a hammer !
- BALANCE : Their are 3 classes and one of them are way more powerfull and balance than other and it need to be change !
The META is the same since a year now and it's one of the reason people and leaving day after day even if we, players, are doint our best to attract people and tell them to play to your game because you can't market your own game after a year. You have to do something about that, it will cure the matchmaking too
Shirts that change based on your club / club colors
5 seasons in the finals and we still don't have those options which we asked for countless times
No one wants to fight 3stack diamonds so they just cash in whole game for free then double stack last box and let whoever they deem weakest advance. It's not you? Enjoy your free -800!!! You got lucky? Here's 200 and pray to next diamond stack!
just played 3 matches of world tour and the contract is 0/3
Gonna play all day tomorrow 😄 Marvel Rivals of course :D!!!
Either nerf LH1 or Buff pike
I wish the Spice The Stakes skin had a special animation like opening the bottle when throwing
▶️ Please let us set the resolution scale above 100%, up to 200%
Embark I'm disappointed???
No fixes for:
-Pike still has visual recoil with scope (that's why no one uses it)
-can't change scope dot colour even though the enemy is red In powershift and TA
-model not properly reloading when switching mid reload (intentional?)
-dual blades bugged slash animation every time you re equip after equipping anything in slot 2
-inspect animations bugged and not showing custom animations in game
-pike still has visual recoil still with scope
-riot shield still doesn't hit lights even when you're on top of them
-loadout not saving when in character menu when joining a match (makes it so you have to use that load out when you join a match)
-still can't adjust individual teammates voice volumes even though there's a known bug where the finals MAXES out a lot of headsets mics
-PIKE STILL HAS VISUAL RECOIL WITH SCOPE
3 new maps and 4 new characters for season 1 (one month after release) of Rivals... this is equivalent to about 270 days (3 seasons) worth of updates for The Finals
cool awesome now compare the teams
can i get some answers is the plug meta fun for you guys i think its the shittiest thing ever to this game
curse you for reawakening my contestanthood
I like it. But not the netcode, the matchmaking, the balance, the model, charge'n'slam, etc...
i think it would be great to have a marker on both sides of a gateway for the player who threw it and his teammates, would be great for solo q
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
Give the model 8x scope!
this not really game feedback but i think it'd be cool for the steam players if they made a points shop to customize our profiles with cause some of the art the official art would be really sick to use as like a background even a animated one of the egg would be sick
does anyone know what that yellow dome thing in wt? around the cashout?
Please bring back High TTK (Time To Kill). Thats why the game has gotten boring, everything has been nerfed to the ground and been on big decline in player numbers if u check the charts, the game is on literal Lifesupport, down 99% players since release. Super fast paced kill speed and overpowered chaotic playstyle is what made this game so fun and unique.
Bring back old pre-nerfed versions of V9 pistol, XP, knives, FCAR, lewisgun, RPG, etc etc, bring back Wallhack ability to Medium class to balance out the crazy kill speeds of the old versions of Light weapons. Old OP rpg to heavies.
if everything is OP then nothing is OP, and OP is 100x more fun than every weapon and ability being super mediocre.
If people want slow paced kill time, people will go play Counter Strike
Bring back recon sense
when would you ever need this😭
I did not realise it was possible for someone to struggle this much with understanding a few sentences... 💀
Right back at u buddy. You're the one struggling to understand 💀 dumbass
sniper is overpowered like noscop no need to aim hit every target without aiming
LOVE that you guys still have invisible walls, great game
another update where Kyoto isnt removed from the game. mid.
Love this idea
Ok but old rpg just deletes a class in every interaction for free
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
not just the color but let me change the reticle as well
Yeah, this sounds like a great way to ignore the few balancing issues left (e.g. CL-40) and undo all of the progress that's been made since S1 where Light died in 6 bodyshots to the support class's longest-range firearm. Fantastic idea.
Contrary to what you say, not everything was equally OP, and not many things are still mediocre in S5. And having SLIGHTLY longer TTKs doesn't mean the game is less chaotic.
Also: @young turtle is right and @naive gust is wrong.
I disagree with every opinion in here and I feel the need to make that known 
is anyone having issues on pc?
Server is lagging
Add mnk support to console
micro stuttering every few seconds (only in practice range got fixed) but game unplayable on my rx 7900xtx since season 4 update its crazy how they fucked up even with card like this cant run it properly
I am once again asking for a Gen 1 famas skin for $10 to $15 USD worth of multibucks
Please make baguette or corn dog skin for sword
Could we get some QoL changes
- customize the sight for scopes (like other color and shapes then the red dot)
- Show the experience gain for equipment in game, the wiki has a chart showing everything you can do to earn experience for your gun or gadgets
Fix your fuck ass game why my shit crashing with a 4060 and a fucking ryzen 9 deadass only fucking dog shit game that has ever crashed for me😂
right but are u saying heavy should have dash or invisible cloak then or is this just u also saying the heavy is stronger, which in current state it is but thats depending on the players preferability, i think if anything should be changed every team should have H/M/L so then theres no Meta and no complaining about whats stronger, its also to make it a = playing field, cuz i do think rn H/H/M is still strong af but thats in comp, i dont play quick cash but for that id prob say Lights, stun gun is a free Kill 99% of time.
and realistically M has 2 healing ability's, there fore hes more of a healer, something that H and L cannot do.
L is an Scout with his quick movement, sonar nades and cloak.
H - is the 1 u want last alive, more health, dome sheild, mesh shield and barricades, therefore thats an enforcer or a type of defender u want.
I don’t fw how the gen 1 looks but I still want this for you
Just confirming what others are saying
Play 3 matches World tour or Bank It contract is broken.
Nerf light
Counter-strike have slow paced kill time? My brother you get one tapped in that game.
Another day, another day of people in #👂┇game-feedback calling the objectively worst class in the game OP and asking for nerfs. Never change, #👂┇game-feedback .
Embark, more anime skins please! That said, it would be nice if the cell shading could be done differently from how it was done in the Season 3 BP anime archer skin. That skin looked like it had a layer of clear gel encasing the entire character, making it look weirdly shiny, and the face felt somewhat in the uncanny valley even for anime style facial design.
Just fix rank the matchmaking is asshole. I’m sick of being hard anchored by dog ass teammates.
im pretty sure the devs got their money worth and are done with this game, based on the updates
ranked should be able to swap items but only after half way point and one time, i think this would make rank a bit more intresting
sorry i missspoke, i meant slow-paced game style, yes you 1 tap im aware,
finals has become soo much slower than it used to be during season 1
it would be nice if there was an advanced jukebox feature, allowing us to pick specific tracks from specific season to play. i love a lot of the music in this game but it would be cool to make a personalize playlist for in-game.
Another patch another Skin/Small fixes
I WANT TO SEE BIG CHANGES BUFF THINGS THAT ARNET USED, NERF THINGS THAT ARE USED TOO MUCH
Do something then these weak shit updates
Please add m&k support on console I need it so much🙏🙏
Yea Embark please don't add anymore anime skins just like the ones in S3, I & a group of people that originally complained about it in S3 don't need to see anymore of it. Thanks
More importantly figure out a plan to fix your existing game issues more on the technical sides, Some more fine Balance additions here & there would be appreciated too. Weekly would be refreshing but I know its not entirely possible at this point.
Okay, there's a couple things me and my friends have no fun fighting against whatsoever.
Defib, the circle jerking is still here, annoying as ever and almost a must have still.
M11, and I say that as a Light. 70% of all Lights I encounter carry this thing.
Stun Gun, which is mostly in combination with M11.
Charge n' Slam, in my opinion it's too strong. I am in general not a fan of panic buttons like this.
Day 46 of asking for a ready up button
Nice to see equal hate to all classes 😄 I don’t see the heal trains so much any more but I definitely agree on M11–it’s been very strong since launch and basically never been nerfed. C&S would be hard to nerf though, at least not without gutting it entirely
Make it to where people who tbag you get their crouch button disabled for the rest of the game gg ez
if everything is op everyone will die in 0.2 seconds and teamfights will feel like shit. light will still be the weakest class since high dps is meaningless when everyone has it.
ew bruh no. id rather have interesting teamfights with strategy instead of who can instakill the other person first. thats boring as fuck
Sometimes lockbolt effect stays until death.
Equal to saying “bring back TA” like holy shit
I just wish they increased accuracy for V95. IMO the LH1 is too on or above par at close range with the V95, when it should be confined to medium and long range. I barely see anyone run the V95 these days, only LH1, M11 (which is also bullshit but another problem), and maybe thorwing kinvies
Add Squads to the game please embark!
hey guys
i just wanna say that this is the 4th update since season 5 where embark has not even attempted to balance weapons, specializations, and util when it comes to their damage output and kill potential
uh
- charge and slam can still 2 tap lights and recharge in 4 seconds, and if a medium is a 1/4 health down, it can kill them too.
- you can still hipfire with m11, kill mediums while just having a little under 20 bullets left to play with, which can half health a heavy, btw.
- Cerberus is still unarguably the worst gun in the game, and I say that with 100% earnest, that gun does NO damage, and it's "fire" gimmick, is barely even there.
- half the heavy class' loadout is rarely used because sledgehammer, lewis gun, spear, and flamethrower overshadow them.
- stun gun.
- revolver can't headshot lights, and 1 tap them.
- lights have ToD (Touch of Death) potential/combos, or just flat out ToD (Sword into bash kills lights, Sword into bash into swing kills mediums. Backstab, into bash kills heavies, sniper into bash kills lights, this is the same for bow, Backstab kills mediums and by extension, kills lights, 1 double barrel shot kills lights at full hp.)
- heavy specializations are overshadowed by winch claw, which is overshadowed by charge and slam. C&S, imo, is just S1 light invis at this point. If you don't see someone running it, you are in a lobby that is by dictionary definition, a unicorn.
- FCAR STILL NEEDS A COMEBACK GOD PLEASE
- Both grenade launchers are still annoying as all get out to deal with, the only counters to only heavy's grenade launcher is biting their ankles, no matter what class you are, and the only reason its only for GL, is because CL-40 explodes on impact. Which means IT'S only counters are out-ranging it or APS. and ima be honest with you, I do not know a lot of mediums that run APS.
- and our poor crossplay console homies can't deal with light dash spam. Full stop.
And those are just some personal grievances I have with the game.
the game needs a slower ttk not faster! even slower than the current ttk.
@.sonofdeath.#0000 read the full msg, that guy wants all the previous nerfs since s1 to be reverted
@dry moon nothing about nukes were "peak fun"
not true at all, TA was terrible, not part of Finals style.
U clearly didnt play the Glory days of Season 1, PEAK FUN in Finals.
High and slower mean the same thing, that guy is still wrong and used the wrong terminology anyways
@leonardofabio.#0000 aim assist is way worse than it used to be, and it both doesn't work on cloaked people or from further than like 30m
NERF aimassist on controllers.. it locks in to steath from far away it lock in to everything its basicly aimbot... iknow that alot of game has so hard aim assist that its basicly its 75% aimbot and with right setting or attachment u can get more so PLS lower the aim assist.....
"our game blows because we dont hire more people" W problem solving skills
and where do you get the money for said people do you even think before you say stuff
The solo experience in this game is not fun. It’s actually painful.
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
Why I get cooldown when I leave a match where someone already left? Or when the match start with only 2 players, such bs.
game is in a good spot rn
"Fixed an issue that could occasionally" it was every time... By design I guess, since it was there for FOUR weeks... Anyway, the mode is playable now, pretty fun, will judge later if the changes were good or bad, but, slow clap I guess...?
Also, running joke, new contracts, something doesn't work. This time play 3 world tours... Doesn't count them.
Also buff Cerberus, it is kinda terrible pick for medium right now... Maybe tighten spread? It needs something, it just falls short...
Also CL40, bring back S1 and S2 CL40, you kinda ruined it... It's no fun to use, it was my main.
But yeah, game is fun, hoping to see some real patches next weeks.
I agree they need rebalancing, but you're incredibly off the mark.
Cerberus is fine. The extra firerate and DoT makes it competitive if you can get into effective range. Could maybe deal with a tighter spread, but other M options like Riot Shield and CL-40 are way more niche and way less effective.
Flamethrower and spear are not meta. Lewis Gun isn't entirely meta, either, because Deagles and ShAK-50 compete in DPS and range.
No Medium weapon including Revolver should EVER one-shot Light. God, just ask for Light to be deleted from the game at that point.
Hardly anybody uses MGL or CL-40 because they deal minimal damage and have self-damage potential. Their only utility is damage around cover, but the AoE falls off so quickly that it's hardly worth it, anyway. There's way more counterplay to both of them than you let on. Taking highground or simply running into their face (especially for CL-40 with its outrageous 160 self-damage) will win you the fight.
not exactly, still a few problems with matchmaking and console crossplay not working, hence why 6000 + people prob no longer play, i could say console is dead in EU servers, cuz its hard to find servers with crossplay off. but thats the poor advertising why the game is kinda dying, we need more advertising on youtube like season 1 did many time ago, the games average is 14000 - 16000 people for a free game it isnt good.
My thought is nerf the damage so it isn’t a panic button free kill like it feels now, but buff the cooldown to compensate. CnS already gets massive value out of the utility alone (breach, escape, drop, push opponents off of a steal, etc.), so buffing the utility aspect while nerfing the combat aspect seems to me like it would make it more reasonable to be on the receiving end of
- Medium and Heavy objectively outgun M11 in a fight between a Light and them. M11 isn’t even remotely overtuned, let alone nerf worthy.
- In what fucking world does Sledge/Spear/Flamethrower overshadow anything on Heavy?
- Stun Gun isn’t good.
- Revolver isn’t supposed to oneshot with a headshot. That would be busted as fuck. It’s not supposed to two shot with bodyshots either. That would also be overpowered. It’s literally intentionally balanced around being 74/148.
- The only niche/weak Heavy spec is Goo Gun, the others are literally all solid/amazing at different levels of play.
- FCAR is still solid, the only change it would even need is the recoil being made less shitty for the first handful of bullets.
- Console needs better ways to turn quicker made accessible.
Can't connect to game, constantly disconnected.
Gets banned from the match, but still able to reconnect, even though it was a connection issue.
Something needs to be changed about that.
Now sitting here waiting for my ban cooldown for something that isn't my fault.
I'm not sure how you can look at Power Shift's matchmaking and conclude that it's ever even remotely fair. Assuming none of the people on the other team are in a party, our team had 5 kills IN TOTAL by the end of the match where the platform got pushed all the way to the end and we lost. The other team all had positive K/Ds and one guy had 9 kills and 1 death. It's like the matchmaking decided that all of the good players should be on one team and all of the bad players should be on the other. Power Shift is routinely like this and feels the most lopsided in terms of the matchmaking, Embark whatever you guys are doing to determine who should be on which team in this game mode is just not good enough.
throwing knife is bugged they dont hit target all the time
I actually think you have hit my arguement dead on I really like this actually
I'm going based off of just experience for all of it
and i've seen a lot of times where I personally wish Cerberus DID do more damage, or WAS more effective when it came to it's fire qualities.
theres a lot of times I feel like theres nothing I can really do against a CL-40 user, and when im playing light, they just.. 2 tap me, and run off.
MGL I do agree, nobody uses, because its NOT super viable BECAUSE of the other weapons that should be tweaked.
I now realize that yeah saying flamethrower is meta is just straight up wrong but thats because i'm a disgusting melee user and use melee weapons cuz I can't aim, but in the same vein, I can pretty safely say yeah sledge and spear are meta. Spear right click, or as I call it, spin to win, SHOULD NOT do 105 damage EACH SWING. thats disgusting. And sledgehammer, especially coupled with charge and slam, is freakish and god awful to play against, especially as a melee weapon man.
the revolver point, is also taken. yeah in hindsight, kinda busted.
AS FOR SUZU
M11 DOES NOT GET OUTGUNNED!!! I don't know what modes you play, or what you game on, but CLEARLY you have never seen a light stick their m11 up your spine and MAG DUMP you. CLEARLY you have never been stun gunned into m11 mag dump, CLEARLY YOU NEED AN EGO CHECK.
and i say with my whole chest :3
oh and also just another thing, I have been on both the giving and receiving ends of an m11, and ima say it right now, I don't think people using AKM, Lewis gun, famas, sword, sledge hammer, shak, FCAR, 93R, xp5, M11!!!, etc etc should've died when I just.. hipfired them to death.
I agree. The LH1 and M11 aren't really overpowered, it's more of that the V9S is just too underpowered. While I can hit shots like a breeze, easier than the LH1 actually. Sometimes when I am constant hitting headshots, the TTK with the weapon is just outclassed by other ones. Nothing to substantial, I just feel you should be able to fire a little faster as the mag size and damage are actually pretty good.
they need to stop nerfing shit thats just used too much, its used because its fun and/or good. not broken or unbalanced, just buff the bad shit and nerf the unbalanced shit.
peak fun thats why it destroyed any potential of a comp playerbase and the game has never seen more complaints than it did back then
NEW PLAYER EXPERIENCE
I’ll admit it. I made an alternate account just to test out how the game feels from a fresh slate, in the view of a “new player’s” eyes.
The tutorial y’all made is incredible. I don’t know what season it dropped but it’s way better than what I remember from launch.
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The VR grind is an abomination. You have to play like 3 matches to even access equipment customization, and you only get enough VRs to get a cheap gun (say like FCAR, Model, etc). It took me about 10 matches give or take to get 1 new gun and 1 new gadget. And that’s the cheapest possible gadgets and weapons I could find. To maximize any build on any class especially Light and Heavy it takes so much more grinding for equipment. Even if the new player buys what they want and doesn’t know what the meta is, it still takes WAY TOO LONG to earn VRs. Contracts swapping fans for VRs is the issue here
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Pubs lobbies (quick cash, power shift, bank it) obviously don’t have MMR so you’re immediately pitted against players that have been grinding the game since launch or at some point early on. Season 4 Ruby? Really? This ties into the equipment experience. You’ll get smoke thermal bodied by a double barrel light, sniped out of nowhere by a bow, burned alive by a flamethrower, and you don’t even get a chance to combat it because it takes too long to get anything worth using for every class.
The new player experience is absolutely awful and you’re banking (no pun intended) on the playerbase to immediately enjoy the game and play 30-50 matches
(MID/HIGH teir elo player feedback):
After 700+ hours into the game, i can say i'm officially done with this game
The communication from Embark is basicly none
The updates pushed are not enough to get the game in a healthy(ier) state
In fact this season is worse then last season and each patch feels like there is no involvement of the community whatsoever. (For 2 weeks now, we had 0 impact from the community, while it was most needed!)
For example given:
- The reload/unable to shoot glitch is still around... (s1 issue)
- The (fun)tricks found by the community are patched (Cashout jump-pad manipulation and GOO planes for example)
- Cheaters/hackers in this game is sky-high, and barely any action is taken against them.
- Simply a recoloured battlepass
- No balancing is done
Terrible respawnsystem:
- Win the vault fight, Lose the vault again to the same team spawning on the cashout.
Ranked system is in a terrible state: - The ability to grief out a team with this system is not right AT ALL!
- Win 1 tournament, gain 1k to 1.5k points (Avg taken) just to lose all of it next tournament (1st round elimination).
- Low teir plat is matched with diamonds/rubys.
- You split your player base to a (WT) "casual ranked" and (Ranked) "ranked ranked" system.
Weapon/Class balance is in a terrible state:
- Medium is nerfed tot the ground.
- All medium's weapons are nerfed to the ground, a peashooter deals more dmg.
- Defib nerf was needed, but overdone with the 5! second delay.
- Healing beam was nerfed, but the nerft should’v been in-combat!
- An RPG from heavy deals more dmg to self then the 100 max to other players!
- An grenade deals more dmg then a RPG!
- All light weapons are easily overkilling, (just because the class is not played in a teambased/proper way and has the lowest winrate?)
Note 1: No i'm not a light hater as they are easily to kill aswell
Note 2: Light is THE hardest class to play properly team-based!
Buff grenades
For reference, what is Mid/HIgh Tier Elo?
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
@keen bronze Objectively incorrect. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ud7Rdl3AgMw9mmfDwW2LtDMnzZQ9IIhnqSE4ivsaMTs/edit?pli=1&gid=2136619021#gid=2136619021
M11 takes 0.54s to kill a Light with 100% body shots, 0.36s with 100% head shots. For Medium, it’s 0.9s and 0.6s respectively. For Heavy, it’s 1.26s and 0.84s respectively.
For Light guns, with 100% body shots, 93R, SH1900, and V9S kill a Light faster than 0.54s. With 100% head shots, LH1, Recurve Bow (Charged), SR-84, Throwing Knives Primary, Throwing Knives Secondary, and V9S kill a Light faster than 0.36s.
Literally every single Medium gun with 100% body shots kills a Light in 0.9s or faster. Literally every single Medium gun with 100% head shots kills a Light in 0.6s or faster. AKM with 100% body shots kills a Light in 0.6s too.
Every single Heavy gun with the sole exception of the Flamethrower (a super inconsistent and finicky weapon) kills Light so one-sidedly even if the M11 hits all headshots on the Heavy, the Heavy still kills a Light faster with all body shots.
@graceful cargo Medium is still extremely strong and meta. RPG is literally supposed to do more damage to yourself if you use it point-blank, the point is it’s not supposed to be used that close to yourself. Grenades don’t instantly destroy tons of walls in a single hit and have a way smaller AoE, but frags are also overtuned. Light is still objectively the worst of the three classes. Their weapons are literally supposed to have better DPS/stats to compensate for only having 150 HP, if not, Light would be actually unplayable. And even with those better stats, Mediums/Heavy are still advantaged because they’ll do 150 damage far faster than Light will do 250 or 350.
Allow us to spend a coin in ranked gamemodes to make changes to our loadout from our reserve mid game
Change the way you receive feedback. Most of the players or peoples aren't even giving solid feedback. It's simple, have people who are doing feedback do this .
[Suggestion]
[Feedback]
[Bug]
People shouldn't be allowed to reply to feedback, because the dev are deciding what is or isn't important. Instead allow people to put 4 emotes. 🌟, ❌, 👍 or 👎.
People who agree should give the thumbs.
Devs can give a star, showing that they actively are taking in feedback and approve. X can be used by all. X means no.
If a player doesn't use [feedback] or anything with a bracket. Remove the msg. Usually people who are just complaining about stuff. Same with people who are trying to troll.
Ex .
[Feedback] lower prices for equipment. New players will just get bullied by vets. Have the meta items cost the most, not new stuff.
[Bug] voice chat seems broken, people are either loud or super quiet. I had changed the settings .
[Suggestion] change the metro shower event. Make it longer or fall in the center of the map, instead of it being on the map outskirts. Instead of only 2 different showers. 4 would be nice .
[Suggestion] after you (inspect) your contestant. Allow to zoom in or out, and rename . r2 and L2. O or 🔼 to rename. Don't allow foul words.ofc
[Feedback] have a special event where there are two events, or change the time of events. In "power shift" a event always happens a minute or 3 minutes before the match ends. Could have a special event, where 2 events happen. 1 at the start of the match and 1 toward the end.
[Suggestion] give an option to turn the commentators off or switch it to music. "The finals" have great music, why not have people enjoy it
some achievement/contract ideas that could be added to the game:
Power Shifter: Win 50 Rounds of Power Shift/Regain the platform 50 times
Virtual Machine: Decrypt or Encrypt 50 Terminals in Terminal Attack
Anchors Aweigh: Escape from the Lockbolt 5 times/Anchor 50 enemies with the Lockbolt
"Beam me up, Scotty": Teleport your teammates 100 times with the Gateway
Bullseye!: Headshot opponents 1000 times
Hey has anyone had a weird thing with their screen after killing the light dummy in training ontop of the building?
My screen flahed white after I killed it and now its not respawning.
please let us adjust our loadouts while were still spectating whoever eliminated us, instead of letting us wait until were spectating a teammate
it feels bad to waste so much time doing nothing, just to not have enough time to swap afterwards
the bug (Or a hacker) that your respawn is in the hundreds of seconds happened to me and a friend which was really annoying because we didn’t get to play a good bit of the match as well as it happened to another friend of mine and his respawn time was around eight hundred seconds to where he had to quit because that was the entirety of the time left in the match.
I think its kinda lame that almost all ranged damage options get nerfed, then this season there's been like three damage past 40 meter challenges
like that range is not feasable outside of power shift, and even then you have like three choices
reduce recoil on fcar and akm
Charge and Slam isn't broken, people just can't respect Heavy's Zone of Control.
Embark, I come with a suggestion.
If Embark makes a permanent TDM mode, they should never ever attempt to balance that game mode no matter how unbalanced it gets, unless the balance changes apply to solely and exclusively the TDM mode, the same way Terminal Attack bans Defib/Heal Beam/caps gadget and HP regen in solely and exclusively Terminal Attack.
I was 38k peak. Just played against you.
I wish they added more badges/stats to show of on the player card. obvious ones like longest killstreak, but also some more fun ones like kills with barrels. Also some other ideas: deathcount, losses, current winstreak, cash stolen, distance traveled, games played,... I think a bunch of these are already being counted anyway, either for the statistics screen in game or for challenges, so it wouldn't be too much work to make badges for those. Also i think it wouldn't hurt to be able to show of some other stats than wins, kills and revives. Would make it more of an actual self expression.
Please nerf the medium swords. How did they just block shots coming from the entire team just bc they were in a front direction
15 words: if i have a cashout, i should never spawn more than 70m away. im so sick of spawning 150m away
3 words: Signing Autograph Emote.
2 words: medieval armor
World Tour / Bank It contract isn't progressing for me 🤦🏽♂️
nerf lights
Its broken as far as I can tell
1 gamemode: 5v5 Cash 🗣️ 🔥
I feel like post visual recoil removal the SR-84 went from a niche weapon (not to mention how bad it currently feels to use when shooting at it's 40m hitscan limit) to a subpar weapon.
Off the top of my head
SR-84 - Increase range before hitscan changes to projectile to 60m or at least 50m. As it stands the effective range of the Sr-84 is 35M. Fighting DIRECTLY at it's 40m max before it becomes a projectile FEELS awful right now as an enemy moving just slightly in or out of the range changes your calculations and you feel like you basically have to guess, "am I hitscan or am I projectile?". Couple that with the FAMAS's range before experiencing damage falloff being 35m and that even if the SR-84 user lands entirely headshots the FAMAS has under half the time to kill with only body shots, even allowing the FAMAS user to miss 2 of their 9 shots, the SR-84 feels just outright bad to use at the moment. I think even a small fire rate buff would make the SR-84 much more enjoyable to use.
[Suggestion]
SR-84
Range before Projectile 40m --> 50m
RoF 40RPM --> 45RPM
I feel like neither of these changes are going to get the SR-84 to feel oppressive or even much different to players fighting against it but will make the SR-84 not feel so bad like it currently does. It still shoots slower than the fully charged bow making sniper v bow battles still feel fair but gains just the tiniest increase to TTK against heavys and mediums on what is already the slowest TTK weapon in the game.
Fix the spawns. If you do this one thing the game will be playable at a high level. But you ignore for over a year now.
I get that you’re the Battlefield guys but this is a totally different game & as such there’s zero reason to give weapons the clunky, realistic recoil patterns you’d expect in Battlefield.
You finally got rid of most visual recoil but this remains a major flaw. Spectating console players shoot the FCAR is crazy.
vr earn rate is pitiful
Make solo queue for ranked and group queue like in lol. Its insane that u can loose same amount of points just playing versus team with randoms under 10 mins and win them back only after 40 mins. Ranked doesn't appreciate the time u put in, only good teamplay
Nerd.
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not fun dying to charge and slam all the time
give us outfit pre-sets so instead of making so many contestants we can make one for each build and can switch saved outfits whenever we want, also add 9 contestant slots instead of 8, reduce the recoil on the FCAR and the AKM, give all builds every grenade type (flash, frag, gas, glitch, pyro, smoke, sonar) and take out dual blades cuz they are useless
The contract for playing world tour 3 times doesn't count. I've played 2 times and it's 0/3.
PROBLEM: It is far too easy for a team that has been playing well the entire game, but is just slightly in second, to lose on the very last cashout to a team that has lost every cashout. In short, this is because the final two cashouts give far too much money when doubled. This leads to a scenario where the first team can easily grab the final cashbox (while the other teams fight), and then double it on the fourth team's cashout, then help the fourth team win. "Stealing" the victory from the second place team, and essentially "rigging" the game. A more detailed example is as follows:
EXAMPLE: The first and second team have both won all their cashouts, and played extremely well, meaning that 1st is at $35k and 2nd is at $30k prior to the final cashout. While 3rd and 4th have played very poorly all game, and so only have 7.5k each, but 4th just plugged a $22k cashbox to start overtime. This is still too little to beat 2nd. The 1st place team does not want to play against the objectively better team next round (2nd), so they decide to rig the match by doubling the final $22k cashbox in the 4th places cashout. This gives $7k to 1st place so that they are completely safe from falling to 2nd place. But moreover, it means that the 4th team that has done poorly all game now is going to get $30k for holding onto the doubled final cashout and beat 2nd, for no reason other than 1st deciding it. On top of that, 1st "griefs" 2nd by only focusing 2nd contestants to ensure that 4th wins. This game-rigging only punishes players who have done exceptionally well the whole game, and rewards players that have done much worse. With no way to easily counter it (since 1st can make the game a 6v3 for 2nd).
FIX: If a cashbox is doubled, the money that goes to the plugger, and the total cashout amount is halved for the new cashbox. This means that the final cashout will be $22.5k when doubled. Not allowing a team that has done poorly all game, beat out 2nd.
Double barrel is insanely OP
Hey embark, the "Play 3 matches of World Tour or Bank It" challenge is not counting world tour matches. please fix
Or just actually informed and correct.
i know i only have an rx480 but it's absurd that i cant even maintain 60fps at 720p
at that point it's not a hardware problem it's an optimization problem this is insane
crutching on smudgy dogshit looking temporal aliasing that makes several in-game effects completely invisible is not a real solution
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
I’m a silver and day after day only play in s5 emerald lobbies… why did I ever come back to this game
It would be really cool to see some kind of challenge mode (even solo vs bots?) to teach core mechanics and tricks. Sure, we can watch streamers and youtube vids but nothing is helping raise the skill ceiling of anything but competitive players.
Finals has a lot of possibilities but few understand them, and i think it's the core of why people always complain about balancing - they don't understand how classes are supposed to play, how weapons are intended to play, or how to synergize loadouts
Invis double-barrel does not belong in the game. Prove me wrong.
increase fan gain or allow progression of previous seasons sponsors
Welp, this event suits you.
This said I second this on the "allow progress on previous content" part.
i was playing quick cash with my mate and on the last cashout, the team with the cashout was all camping in on stairs with dmat. please do something that promotes actully playing the game.
im actually about to uninstall over this dogshit matchmaking i cant take it why am i getting teammates who have ZERO DAMAGE several minutes into the game and dont break 1k damage until the last two minutes literally how is that even possible how am i getting matched with someone like that thats not fair to me OR them because theyre in a lobby far above their skill level and i feel dragged down with teammates who i have to carry around
im not good enough to singlehandedly carry us through a tournament i need actual fucking teammates at my skill level
and again, it's not fair to them either since they struggle to keep up with everyone else in the match
it's bad for everyone involved except for the TWO TRIPLE STACKS AND REMAINING DOUBLE STACK ENEMY TEAMS (one of which has a racial slur clan tag since this game is barely moderated)
like it's actually just infuriating to pour a thousand hours into this game and never feel like im progressing because the matchmaking is so abysmal
i saw some clips of someone playing the other day and if i had their lobby i would go 30-0 in quick cash, so i know these easier lobbies exist for my random teammates to be put into instead of mine
i just want teammates comparable to my skill level how is that too much to ask
i stopped playing apex over these exact same issues two years ago and im on the verge of doing that again with the finals
as much as i want to love the game i stg it wont let me
tldr fix your horrendous matchmaking please god i cant take it anymore
This, this, this... all player types (L, M, H) and a modest selection of specializations, weapons and gadgets for each to start with so new players have some variety to experiment with right out of the gate. VR grind can follow that. The pub lobbies point, too. At the risk of overly complicating things, seems like there could be some MMR threshold, below which, low MMR players get priority to play amongst low MMR players, but remove MMR once players get above that certain threshold. I don't actually know the current system for a fact, so maybe this is already done, but it would seem to contradict the above player's experience.
Please end my SUFFERING
Listen here you absolute DEGENERATES, do you have ANY IDEA what kind of PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE you're causing by playing Light class?! I am LITERALLY SHAKING with pure, unfiltered RAGE every time I see one of these mosquito sized MENACES zipping around the map!!
The AUDACITY of Light players thinking they're skilled when they're just abusing these BROKEN MECHANICS! Oh wow, you got a kill with your LH1?? slow clap Must be REALLY HARD with literally ZERO RECOIL and that ABSURD headshot multiplier! And don't even get me STARTED on that STUPID SWORD I'm out here playing an FPS while you're cosplaying as a NINJA ON CRACK!!
You think you're Neo from the Matrix with that evasive dash?? YOU'RE NOT COOL, you're just EXPLOITING broken movement mechanics while I'm trying to land shots like a NORMAL HUMAN BEING! And the GRAPPLING HOOK?? Oh, getting destroyed?? Just YEET yourself into the stratosphere like a COWARD!!
THE ABSOLUTE WORST is you INVISIBLE RATS with your stun guns! What kind of SADISTIC GAME DESIGN is this?! No audio cues?? No warning?? Just ZAP and you're DEAD?! I've developed a PAVLOVIAN FEAR RESPONSE to electrical sounds now I can't even make TOAST anymore without having Vietnam flashbacks!!
The Double Barrel is just INSULTING 'haha heavy go bye bye' with two clicks! The M11 is just spray and pray for BABIES! The dagger?? More like a nuclear warhead to the spine! And the XP-54?? Might as well be shooting LASER BEAMS with that recoil control!!
I'm going to write a strongly worded letter to the developers, and by strongly worded I mean it will be typed in ALL CAPS with exactly 47 exclamation points because that's how ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS I am about this!! DELETE LIGHT CLASS OR I WILL UNINSTALL MY ENTIRE PC!!!
nah bro trippin but its true
ik thats why i hate m11 users
skill issue ig use riot shield
(i entirely agree)
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
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Bait used to be believable 🎣
I'm not gonna lie, I'd love to see a Vaiiya sponsor recolor set consisting: the Duskvane Jacket, Hedge hunter cargo pants, hedge hunter boots, whatever gloves and mask to match it all up. Mostly just the Duskvane Jacket and the hedge hunter cargo pants because I'm a sucker for that gorka suit in winter/snow/urban camo. Still waiting on a Vaiiya version of the asymmetrical top too.
only applicable to mac 11 users. They somehow get kills but can't play the game at all. Spectating them makes me want to punch my monitor like this dude gets stuck on a wall every 5 seconds and aims like a stormtrooper.
Sounds like you need to take a break
forcing people to play quick cash was always fucking stupid, you arent leaning anytthing about the game, 4v4v4v4 actual cashout is nothing like quick cash. And the game is too smokey to play when a building collapses and guns are too easy to use now
What the fuck my home boy just hit plat and we’re playing with top 10s
Embark please stop destroying your own game with every patch you put out. Please dear god stop
Some quality of life ideas:
- An option to check ping/packet loss/etc before joining a game
- An option to auto-track new contract once one is done
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@waxen rover It's not. It's balanced by being on a class with 150 HP, only having two shots, needing to land both to kill a Medium or Heavy (195 even with all pellets, AKA, not enough for Quick Melee to finish off a Medium even with a perfect hit), and the spread being massive enough to make it impossible to kill a full HP Medium/Heavy from further than 6m even if the target is perfectly still, more like 4m in actual realistic scenarios.
@mellow geyser Invisibility is extremely loud+visible if they move even a little quickly. If you're struggling with invisibility, I recommend Glitch Traps and Motion Sensors, both hard counter it.
@fading flame Clearly they were playing? They were guarding their cashout from a safe position. Why would they intentionally risk themselves? Scouting out the place/sonar grenades/destroying out the walls/etc would've been a way to counter it.
@tacit patrol 10/10 pasta.
~~Is this a copypasta? If this is actually serious, you should take a break if you're getting that frustrated regularly, it's not healthy. Taking a break and then coming back can also help make a game feel more fun too.
- LH1 is strong but balanced
- Sword is subpar right now and has extremely hard counters
- Evasive Dash and Grappling Hook are both fun but not that good
- Invisibility is extremely loud and visible if moving even slightly quickly
- Using Stun Gun to kill someone is a waste of time, it gives away any surprise, their position, and is time wasted on something that isn't dealing damage
- Double Barrel has extreme downsides to make up for the upsides
- M11 is decent but not even close to overtuned
- Dagger is one of the hardest/most niche weapons in the game and has extremely hard counters
- XP-54 is near-obsolete after its nerfs and not really worth running~~
Please embark all I need to be happy is a solo queue mode
can u pls make easy to read on mobile I don’t like reading text
Your discord game chats allow classism. I didn’t appreciate that.
Ranked is infuriating right now. The only way to play is cross play so I have to play against M&K warriors which is bad enough as is, on top of that the game performance is at an all time low with server freezes happen between every 15 to 25 seconds that don’t seem happen for the enemies but happen always for me. Embark response to the freezes “we are aware of the bug keep an eye out on patch notes” THE ONLY THING YOURE FIXING IS BUGS NO ONE HAS NOTICED 😭😭. This has been happening for over 2 months now and NO FIX. And to really kill all enjoyment of ranked I’m getting put into an “Easy lobby” WITH TWO FULL DIAMOND TEAMS… who both team together to get through to the next round. And I lose more points than I have gained for the last TWO HOURS. This game is a joke smh
10/10 rage bait,It could be me perfectly, the lights are disgusting and brainless w the invi + the most broken weapons in the entire Game,m11,lh1 db..and the best abb,the invi soo
yes its a copypasta, I hope everyone didn't take it super seriously and had a good laugh at the sometimes frustrating aspects of this game 
make ivada relic rumbler spin dude
Why does it take so long to rank up I ain’t even losing and ts taking forever
Add 5 seconds to team wipe respawn timer, more often than not you don't get more than 10 seconds to set up defenses before getting railed by team you just wiped
Posted in bug reports as well, but my current feedback is that I can't play the game due to USB devices randomly disconnecting and reconnecting, including my network adapter, making completing a match impossible. Can't give good feedback on a game that has randomly become completely unplayable for me in the past week.
100% agree; the level up slog is a reason some of my friends never really got into the game. They should cut it in half.
They also need to think of something to let us spend VR on once we’ve unlocked everything.
WHAT IS THIS SOUND +FANS BEEPING WHEN I Plug please turn it off devs
Player card backgrounds and borders in a smooth gradient color schemes of different pride flags would be really nice 
Heavy assult Rifle and Deagles are too accurate at range. They do way too much damage to be so absurdly accurate
There's a distracting light glitch where the vicinity of the cashbox turns yellow
Sound mixing is horrific dogshit
when i click on a mode to play, i DONT want it to start the countdown to play that mode yet, i want to click "play X mode"
also, when i hit the X to cancel the search, i want it TO WORK.
How am I meant to progress in a reasonable amount of time when I’m placed in emerald & diamond lobbies as a SILVER
After the last game update the game freezes so bad. I thought it was me but so many teammates was complaining that they cannot move
Also, thanks for fixing the multi screen bug
gives you extra fans if you stand in it
Also, I'm surprised with all the Skateboards we can put on our backs, there isn't a emote for doing a kickflip. Just for the meme idea of someone passing by someone else to say "HEY, DO A KICKFLIP!" and they usually either wipe out on the pavement, or they flawlessly do a kickflip on camera.
I figured ill put this here also cause its a vid about what you guys should do for sword.
https://youtu.be/vt9-C7Z7jd4
why is the game stuttering like hell? the performance seems to be getting worse and worse
I have a few ideas for the light class
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
Spawns really need a rework. Playing WT on Seoul, holding the hospital cashout, one team gets respawned at the corner of the map behind the hospital. Alright, we know this can happen. We wipe that team in 20 seconds. And right as we were moving back to watching over the bridges... ANOTHER team respawns exactly at the same location. Why do not one, but TWO wiped teams (in other words, teams that lost their previous fights) get gifted a golden respawn behind our cashout ?
By design the hospital area on Seoul is a tough objective to get to once a team is settled there. But we earned that favorable position by beating the opposing team at the vault first.
Things like this can happen on other maps more or less frequently and when they do, it really feels like an undeserved loss that's not due to getting outplayed, but the game actually playing against your team. The worst part is that you sometimes get respawned 150m away from your own cashout after using a coin or following a team wipe. Why can I get so heavily penalized for dying as a defender, when opposing teams are, again, gifted gold respawns closer to the objective that's not even theirs ? I wonder.
bro i was fighting 2 teams at a cashout (My Team against 2 others) then the 3rd team that was wiped moments earlier spawned in my fucking face i swear and then we lost that game due to getting wipe before stealing the cashout (The map was Seoul too right outside the mall. Somethings up
Nerf famas to 21 or 18 bullets per mag
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Kyoto should be removed
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Top 500 should only queue with each other in ranked
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Better ratio on RS gain/loss
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IP ban cheaters don’t just remove for a week
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charge on heavy is one of the last things left in the game that needs balancing
I use heal beam and model, but no defib. Can I complain?
Game initialization issues slightly reduced with newest patch. It’s nice but there are still occasional issues. Will screenshot the next time one pops up.(PS5)
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
Charge and slam user here: Stop all the coping, we got 9 nerfs season 3-4 and medium is still the meta (by far)
Server update when? 
HEY MAYBE ADD AUTO FILLING FOR LEAVERS FOR WT. WHY DO I HAVE TO BE PUNISHED FOR YOUR GAME CRASHING OUT PLAYERS IN RANKED AND WT. WHY DO WE HAVE TO BE PUNISHED
C&S is stupidly strong for how easy it is to use, this has nothing to do with coping or whatever. And I play mainly M/H.
Fuck it, go the extra mile and have the customizable cross hair replace the reticles on sights.
@indigo nova heavy is a single point of pellet damage on the model away from being unequivocally the best class in the game again, like it was in seasons 1-3. Medium only has the one broken item, heavy has several. Charge has always been one of them and is completely unchanged from season one, where everything was at its most absurd.
I was about to post it here too, you beat me to it. (makes sense, it IS your video lol)
i am so tired of crashing when joining matches and being PUNISHED for it. i cant play for 30 minutes now. if you arent gonna fix the crashes could you at least stop punishing the people who experience them? 30 seconds to rejoin is NOT enough time... have you ever launched your own game? sometimes EAC takes 30 seconds by itself... if it doesnt, its certain that precompiling shaders will. The best part is when it crashes when you restart so even the faint glimmer of hope you had of getting back in 30 seconds is erased. really awesome.. >:(
Throwable that oneshots entire teams ✅
Map-wide wallhacks with high uptime ✅
Ability on the healthiest class that oneshots 1 of just 3 classes ✅
Invisibility without a decloak ✅
Immobiliser that also disables abilities that can be fired from invisibility ✅
High damage grenade with no indicator in a chaotic game ✅
Near-instant high damage panic button on the healthiest class ✅
Instant mines in a game with horrific audio ✅
Healing beam that stacks on the same target ✅
45s respawns in Quickplay modes ✅
18s health regen continually extended by 10s upon receiving any damage ✅
Ranked mode that can & does face top 500 players against Silvers ✅
Event with near-instant corpse explosions in a game with melee weapons ✅
Attempt to balance weapons by adding horrible recoil patterns ✅
The unfortunate reality is that many of those responsible for designing & balancing this game simply do not have a good understanding of how to do so. DICE games are neither ability-centric nor competitive & the repercussions of this are exceptionally evident.
guys?
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I really want this V9S skin but OSPUZE version. Can Embark cook it? and pad extension should be crunched OSPUZE can
Okay, I requested old man and old woman faces (a couple people reminded me that captain ironmark solves the former). Now I think it's time for some more entertaining facial expressions. 'Goofy Smile' guy, 'Totally Surprised' guy... Food for thought.
Ranked RS needs to be buffed, its horrible playing 30m winning like 900 depending the seed then lose in 10m and lose 1.2k cuz ur team mates left or whatever, its a joke and this needs to be something be worked on next season if not then im gonna assume the player base might hit rock bottom in terms of competetive edge side, everyone may as well play WT.
5 seasons… 5 seasons and they still can’t do any thing with spawning 200m away and contracts that you can’t complete. This game is headed for its demise
Cloak & stun are the most obnoxious things to fight
Stun shouldn’t pin you to the ground & cloak shouldn’t be able to be shot out of
No other game lets either one of those happen because IT’S BROKEN
A Light using Stun Gun to try to kill someone is wasting time using a gadget that gives away any possible element of surprise they had and shows the literal direction they shot the Stun Gun from when they could’ve spent that time doing damage instead.
A cloaked/vanish bombed Light is deafeningly loud and overwhelmingly visible if they move even remotely quickly.
If you’re having problems with stun gun often, coordinate and position better with your team so they can help you out plus make it harder for the Light to find an ideal ambush opportunity. Position in areas that force them to get closer than the Stun Gun’s maximum possible range if they want to have the LOS to hit said stun gun dart. Mesh/Dome/Barricade/Goo all block the dart. Glitch Trap prevents using it. Detection shows them coming beforehand. So on and so forth.
If you’re having problems with invisibility often, use Glitch Traps, Motion Sensors/Sonar Grenades, watch out for the visual rippling/audio static noises produced when an invisible Light moves at more than a snail’s pace, and/or coordinate and position with your team so they can’t ambush you alone exactly how they want.
Neither are broken. Both have clear hard counters. Stun gun is not good.
Que times on world tour are messed up right after hitting emerald I can't find a game it takes 10 minutes and yes crossplay is on not sure what's happening
You have never been stunned out of a cloak and it shows
Try solo q sometime and tell me to coordinate with my teammates which just so happen to be new while fighting 3 stacks.
Funny that the argument is “oh just don’t die to it” or “hear it”, how uneventful are your matches? In most conflicts I’m not focusing on trying to hear a subtle noise which tells me a vague location of someone, I’m focused on other stuff.
Good luck keeping new players with cringe crutch like this
I have been stunned out of cloak before. Doesn’t change anything. People refusing to do counterplay is not the same as there not being counterplay. Losing to 3 stacks as new players doesn’t mean something’s broken, it means there’s a skill gap which is understandable, but is on the players to bridge through getting better at the game via experience/learning/etc. Invisibility is extremely loud if the invisible Light is moving fast at all.
light is broken. rework the entire class
skill issue?
"Squid Game" Limited Time Event pleaseeeee
Money for licensiiiiiiiing
why am i getting matched with bronze team mates when everyone else in the lobby is plat, diamond or emerald lmaoo
Devs love the light class because it's the most played class so they'll keep 80% of the player base warm. Somehow getting free kill with stun is ok but one shot rpg was not ok?? 150dmg bow is ok but they nerfed lewis gun?? Cloak and vanish bomb is fun but heavy should recover health in 10sec??
IF YOU ARE ACTIVELY STEALING IT SHOULD NOT PROGRESS OMG ITS BEEN FIVE SEASONS JUST STOP THE TIMER
dude... 💔
The increase in “legit” cheating or no recoil script, fast fire / auto click scripts, and controller emulation is getting way out of hand. As a dagger light main, i can tell you that allowing / not implementing scripts to catch and punish this style of cheating one: gives the illusion that light is overpowered two: incentivizes others to follow suit. I will personally write scripts to detect this if given the chance. Also a gentle reminder, report it when you see it. A good indicator is that the animation of firing the gun appears the be faster than what is actually happening. Please also keep jn mind that you are better than that. Do not stoop to this level, you only make yourself worse at the game when you cheat!
bro has never branched out of quick cash 😢
Awesome game, I really wish the game becomes as popoular as it deserves to be, to honour your devs amazing passion to the game
Please give sledgehammer an greatsword skin and please give us armor
Some more QoL suggestions:
- Being able to save custom cosmetics customizations as their own slots to easily reapply to Contestants would be amazing
- Being able to mass-equip a charm or sticker with a single click (eg, putting the Nama Tama charm on every weapon) would be really appreciated
- Option to name the custom Contestant slots for easier sorting/identification
- Being able to favorite cosmetics so they appear at the beginning of the list for the category (eg, favoriting an Upper Body so it's first in the list)
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@unborn tangle The strategy of stalling enemies long enough they don't have sufficient time to steal is by design. That's why Embark intentionally designed it that way.
@waxen grove Simple. RPG doing that much damage was overpowered. Stun Gun is not. Lewis Gun was overtuned. Recurve Bow is not. Heavy's HP regen starting any sooner than it already does would be overtuned. Cloak and Vanish Bomb are not. Heavy was egregiously overpowered in numerous areas and still strong even after all those nerfs. Light was the objectively weakest of the three classes even with the buffs they got, let alone the nerfs they got.
agreed, light is fun to play but you get DEMOLISHED for playing it, charge n slam is wayyy out of balance
nerf lights
He has every right not to. I'm not saying I agree with what he said, however the solo queue experience in QC can be very miserable when there's 4-8 Light players in the lobby. Part of that is due to Light being really good at slaying randoms/noobs in uncoordinated teams. But also due to the wave respawn system allowing players in general and Light in particular to be overly aggressive with zero consequences if they get killed. The worst thing that could happen is them being back around the corner 15 seconds later...
QC is meant to be a fun casual/training game mode.
Imagine being a new player starting The Finals, getting into a few rounds of QC to get a feel for the game, only to be repeatedly stunned and killed by a 3L team running invis + DB/M11 or whatever. Or to have both your Light team mates run around the map to chase kills without helping you or caring about the objectives.
You'd probably wonder WTF is this game, alt+f4 uninstall and never look back. And even if you stick around long enough to become better, QC currently plays like a messy TDM, not WT/Ranked, so you're not really learning the ropes to succeed there.
I think QC in its current form is a terrible introduction to the game and can easily make people quickly leave.
honestly, true. I just wish more people would give things like WT a try. I used to be stuck just playing QC and I thought it was horrible until I decided to change up the game mode. I am not smart enough to know how to solve this issue but I doubt it'd be fixed by nerfing the light more
cheating in WT is so fucking cringe get a life nerds
please bring back pre nerf mp5 , i miss my shayla
I wanna be able to wear hair with hoodies pleas embark my character isn't bald
nerf m11 🙏
Buff Cerberus now
Please add more sections to the practice range for accurate item testing. A useful addition would be a circular ring displaying distance markers in +5-meter increments up to a set maximum (e.g., 1000 meters). This visual aid would help people better understand distances and benefit the wiki.
Additionally, include a toggle or button at the circle's center to switch to a bird's-eye view for accurate distance measurement and screenshots for the wiki. Given the circle's size, it could be integrated into the practice range via a teleport trigger, either in a separate skybox or as an attached walkable area.
fr nerf damadge by 1 or 2 per bullet and slightly increase reload time
Nonsense
L is the strongest class
yeah fr just try out a damage nerf by like 2 and its gotta keep 40 bullets to keep its identity. m11 is too easy to use it pisses out kills 😅
servers down?
light is by far the weakest class , can i please get pre nerf xp54/mp5 , i miss my shayla so much 😔
Charge & Slam needs either a significant damage reduction and more destruction or a Longer cool down and no to very destruction bc as it stands they’re should be no reason absolutely none I full dump a heavy from behind somehow doesn’t die and does 250+ with charge & slam that’s absolutely ridiculous just to watch him spam it again on my teammates not even 8 seconds later
Things I'm enjoying about Season 5!
- The theme "Next Stage" is incredible, have been listening to it often
- Bernal is really pretty, I love the aesthetics of the map
- Sponsor Suspended Structures are far better than Suspended Structures, they're entire buildings rather than a small area, making for more gameplay possibilities
- The Macuahuitl skin for the Sword, the Mesoamerican warrior outfit, and the Sundial watch are all 🔥, my favorites from this Season's BP
- I would love to see more future cosmetic content based off other indigenous/past historical groups around the world
- The spray paint emote from the Store skin is really good
- Club tags and club missions are a nice lil' bonus
- Cerberus SFX/VFX on shooting is very satisfying and scratches that itch just right
- Lockbolt Launcher and Gravity Vortex are both fun to use
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@fathom hearth The literal only thing on Light that could reasonably be argued needs a nerf is the LH1.
@devout grotto @clever bone M11 isn't even remotely overtuned, let alone overpowered. It doesn't need a nerf.
@mossy karma Objectively, factually, and statistically incorrect.
Devs please listen to thiss......
REMOVE TAA IT MAKES THE GAME SO SO SO AWFUL, game looks like a blurry shit mess, adds input delay, completely clueless as to how this hasnt been implemented yet. Just give us an off setting, plently of ue5 games have done this come on
Please revert the 4.0.0, 4.5.0, and 5.0.0 changes to the XP-54. It never needed the nerfs in 4.0.0 in the first place. It wasn't overpowered. The only reason it had the high pickrate it did was the other weapons were either bad, mediocre, a lot more niche, or a lot harder to utilize. The XP-54 is still for nearly all intents and purposes, obsolete after the 4.0.0 nerfs, even after the 4.5.0 and 5.0.0 buffs, with no real reason to ever pick it except the falloff range, but even that is overshadowed by the LH1.
Nerf cheaters & buff Matchmaking for play with players who have same rank than us pls
Real tho lol
Apart from SH2 I don't think I can name any, but try using TSR and see if that's any better, you can also get TSR epic using the config
devs dead? where are nerfs and buffs? its been like 5 weeks without change and its so stupid
hire me for balancing
They really made this game worse after the update. Just got stuck with a literal hand cannon aka my famas turning to just my hand and I could aim down the sight and everything to in the same game being unable to aim down the sight at all.
I do not think spamming this will make devs consider nor even notice your message
Right? like Thermal vis has a bug that causes people to just stop rendering when looking in certain directions and when it's switched off even if it was only for a millisecond you still have to wait the full recharge time. People already don't think Thermal vis is worth taking so I don't see what the point of these drawbacks is
@torpid sky but it's funny as hell watching them sit in a corner completely motionless like "Oh they can't see me" right before they get beamed in the head with the bow or throwing knives
did u try....using your eyes & ears?
is it me or the game just became much laggy?
only implement defib sickness in comp / world tour. the whole point of it was to stop medium stacking in tournaments (which has failed miserably imo).
Force people to play on quick cash is the worst idea in this S5 actually
What do u mean
XP totally deserved all the nerf is got
It shredded players from all distances
Is finals working fine for ps5
When did this become a thread where you debate people? Its game feedback not community feedback.
Hey Embark!
Could we please get a [party dress with hints of being a spy] for the ladies?
I bought the golden mask and makeup that were in the store for New year's but just realized there's no dress to pair them with 🙃
Thanks!
Add FSR 3.1 to the finals please
Ebark, can you explain to me why I started to reload LOADED RPG? I have a footage: https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/13047310501518951/974572D11B6DDE398A39422606309B25E9690007/
Bro please fix the GeforceNow bug, no other game has it its literally just The Finals. It crashes on the machine its being run on at the loading screen.
change the zip line mechanics to be more like apex legends so that all classes can have more interestinf forms of movement and the interacation with the light dash would be very interesting
Troubleshoot your system first, it’s typically either driver issues, storage capacity issues, overlays, or background tasks messing with the game
Not that there’s anything wrong with your system but the finals takes quite a few resources and it requires them to run well in order for the game to look and function as well as it does
@sage kite oh it’s cloud gaming? Ah no wonder lmao, in that case it takes effort on the part of both embark and nvidia to make it work
@wet compass yeah let’s go back to recon senses, healing beam/defib spamming, sa12, invis db, model, rpg, nuke, c4, sniper camping meta with only 4 maps and no new gadgets or weapons 
bro its geforcenow. This is not a me issue. IT has been reported countless times #1201841543926005810
This game is going to die soon please revert and make it game as it was in beta
I have seen that a huge precentage of games exist 1 2 playes afk or disconnected, it be more fair that the points that that afk would win are shared by the active team players? We are several times penalised by that till plat...
@pearl kiln @rare spear Could we have a 6 vs 6 mode where the team would require to hold the cashout after putting the box in. You could have a time slider similar to power shift? This would increase team play and chaos, personally think it would be cool. There could be rotating cashout, and please increase the duration of the match itself. Thank you for your consideration
Game will revert when 2 player are playing 🙂 dev and designer
world tour contract still not working
Change the dagger's right click to be able to 1-press again or make the throwing knives like the current dagger (i.e. worse). The throwing knives and dagger are currently implemented differently with the same patch flavor text. Patch 4.0.0 uses extremely similar descriptions therefore making the current gameplay outcome confusing: Dagger - The Dagger’s backstab secondary attack can now be held, only triggering when the button is released, rather than automatically. During this stance, the player moves at the normal run speed and cannot sprint. Throwing Knives - The Throwing Knives secondary attack can now be held, only triggering when the button is released, rather than automatically. During this stance, the player moves at the normal run speed and cannot sprint. Within test range throwing knives and dagger behave differently. Based on the flavor text it sounds like the dagger (which feels worse than current throwing knives) is working as intended but the throwing knives are not (even though they feel much better and I personally would like dagger to be manipulated instead). Simply put, throwing knives' secondary attacks can still be single pressed instead of a forced hold like the dagger's current implementation. Could also just change the flavor text for the patch and do nothing.
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
Can yall do something about the shit fog,dust,smoke making it literally impossible to see anything if its a sunny map…
That’s part of the realism 
Lol fr but i think it's more realistic
Nerf LH1
i agree
Can we have body paint and face paint as separate features rather than having it bundled together
day 109 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD
Please do not tag Embarker nor CMs, it isn't necessary 
My bad, first time posting here
No harm done! 
Dagger Refinements Proposal
Hey you all, I would like to share an idea for refining the dagger mechanics in The Finals. The goal is to make the dagger more versatile, skill-based, and satisfying for different play styles. I mean it for everyone who love dagger. And This is the breakdown of the refined mechanics:
Dagger Refinements
Left-Click (Quick Attack)
Damage: 50 per hit.
Description: A simple, fast attack for consistent damage. Good for Follow up. Ideal for quick skirmishes and finishing off low-health enemies.
Right-Click (Backstab Mechanics)
- Tap for Instant Backstab
(New one)
Damage: 120.
Description: A fast, decisive attack for stealth players. Requires precise positioning to strike the enemy's back.
Maybe not good for finish enemy instantly. But good for hit and run with some high damage on their back to make them br angry and try to stop you. And this is backstabbing that can perform instantly. No need to charge
- Hold for a Charged Backstab
Damage: 320.
Charge Time: 800 ms (0.8 seconds).
Description: A powerful, high-risk, high-reward attack that deals massive damage when executed properly. Good for excution instantly with highest damage as you did before But you need to charge it first, you know that.
Core Mechanics
Input Detection:
Tapping right-click (<200 ms): Performs an instant backstab.
Holding right-click (>200 ms): Starts charging the attack. After charging for 800 ms, releasing right-click executes the charged backstab.
Hitbox Requirements:
Both backstab modes require hitting the back hitbox of the target to land a critical hit.
Miss Prevention:
Releasing the charge too early (200-799 ms) cancels the attack, allowing for repositioning without wasting a full charge.
Why These Changes?
Encourages hybrid skillful play and rewards precise timing, decide and positioning.
Adds variety to melee combat, letting players adapt to different scenarios.
Retains balance by making high-damage attacks require proper execution.
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please change the billboard info from „defend cashout 1/2/3/4“ to „defend cashout A/B/C/D“ it literally does not make any sense to numerate the cashouts since the vaults are not visible once the cashbox is inserted. Just make it the respective character of the cashout
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you seem to be having loads of fun with the „surveys“ on the end of some matches but I don’t get them. It is so incredibly plain to ask someone if the match was fun or not because of 5 given reasons to pick from. I don’t get what information you are trying to get out of that.
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I wish for a steam game profile
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why is it still a thing that I get my xp progress from like the whole season after every match. It is annoying and a problem since, idk, S2(??)
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I do not get how you determine the rarity of an item you put in the game. It is so random that an item that is harder to get has a lesser rarity then one that is easier to get (like in the season pass or progression skins). What does rarity even mean at this point anymore? Pls fix that or remove that „feature“ entirely as it is very confusing
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pls adjust the spawns. It can’t be that teammates are still spawning apart from each other. It also can’t be that if I have a cashout and get wiped, I get spawned at the enemy cashout on the other side of the map even if we still have the other cashout. It is even better if you get spawned into third partying while the 4th team can just chill without any confrontations whatsoever
this i also agree with. as a new person to the game the match making feels all over the board. when i first started had team mates that had comms and we were shredding. last couple of days have been clown team mates going against insanely strong teams unless i use discord to stack up.
Realism in a game where not even the game itself is real??? Corny, make it playable.
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
embark you wanted terminal attack to be taken more seriously as a gamemode but foundational errors were made in its implementation. You took out the healing beam? a good choice, okay but why is the guardian turret still in? you want to have a counterstrike / search and destroy style gamemode but you have rounds that could have awesome 1v3+ clutch situations but you enter a room and theres 4 guardian turrets ruining what could be tense skill based play. also, you need to add play of the game/ play of the tornament across the WHOLE game so we can see the best moments
Just go play rainbow 6 if you want playable tactical larping 
we need a pre-lobby for games at least to check out our randoms
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
Make spawnpoints randomized a.s.a.p, players that play the game all the time know all the points atm. You already get beamed from the roof before you even can get close.
And also create a chicken sound and suit
Add mouse and keyboard support back to xbox. Put us in pc lobbies whoopty do
It would be great if Embark added an item that can turn turrets into harmless objects... Hmm ...
Option to equip multiple stickers on guns would be nice!
Yes 😦
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i understand the purpose of stun and don’t want that gone, but pinning you to the floor is ridiculous
Hello!
It looks like the Lights using the saber can double kill! It happened to my mate and me, a light got a double kill while dashing ?!
If this is the case I find it VERY unfair since the Heavy can't double kill anymore with the hammer.
Also, lately I have a lot of issues with Hit registration using a hammer, even my mate spectating me have seen this issue, and this is not my connection.
screaming medium or heavy main
@pearl kiln @teal ermine @frozen heath @bright marsh @full prairie @peak nacelle @dense gulch Hey guys! It would be awesome if we could see more in depth stats. The main one I would want to see is what team I play the most as, and what I win the most as. And if possible, how many bullets total I have shot. This would be awesome!!
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I’ve seen a couple people mention this but It would be cool if we could get retrospective diamond badges from previous season. I got ranked diamond 4 in season 2 and would like to show it off☺️
I CANT EVEN PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE ANTI-CHEAT WONT LAUNCH IT ANYMORE ERROR 30005 START SERVICE FAILED WITH 1275
should weapon sights match the skin of legendary weapons like the Molten AKM? what you guys think?
Stop sign sledgehammer 🛑 should be a thing 
cloak sounds dissapearing sometimes, a light can get right behind you cloaked even if there isnt much going on without any sound because the sound is bugged sometimes
@thorny lynx exactly, this would do the game so much good
100% complete overhaul of audio. Focus on OTHER teams footsteps please. I know I can hear my team 5 buildings over, but I kind of want to hear the enemy more when they are right next to me. Audio = poor
Molotov cocktail skin for pyro grenade would be awesome :))
I am gonna say about my dagger Refinements forever. Not spamming, I just do it forever
Make it can tap right click to perform instant backstab with 120 dmg, and Hold right click to perform charge backstab with 320 dmg execution.
It has many games that make characters perform two different attacks with only one button, for example, MegaMan, Dead by Daylight
I like the dagger refinements put forward by Gunchaman. As it stands the only "competitive" way to play dagger is with dash. adding a secondary right click would open up the way for more diverse styles of dagger play.
What happened to the indicator for glitch trap? Like I can’t tell if someone is near it
@clever hawk I guess that’s fair but still stupid because every mine has an indicator when triggered
I’d love for the battle passes to take a page out of halo and if I paid for it let me finish it whenever at my choosing. Select which pass I’m grinding so I can complete it.
waiting for rank adjustments
It was removed to prevent it being used as a detector as you describe
is there no one else left in the non-emerald section? where are all the casual players, the game is filled with try hards and sweats no matter what mode it is, and they are all working in clubs now making us solo queuers and casuals experience garbage
MOUSE AND KEYBOARD SUPPORT ON CONSOLE PLS EMBARK IM BEGGING 🙏
plazed famas for the first time and DAMN is the hipfire ridicolous. easily best m weapon rn innit
Embark is a joke, been using the same name since OB... now they changed the name to Player and i need to wait 30 days to pick another one 🤡 🤡
Thx you so much, Im gonna push this feedback to be real and great for everyone 🙏😊
What was the name
we were talking about map ideas in another chat, what about a map where its a randomized stitch of 4 different maps? idea came from Battleworld in marvel. not sure how to implement the "random stitching" of the maps though
thats just 6v6 terminal attack 🫃
Cheers!
Throwable that oneshots entire teams ✅
Map-wide wallhacks with high uptime ✅
Ability on the healthiest class that oneshots 1 of just 3 classes ✅
Invisibility without a decloak ✅
Immobiliser that also disables abilities that can be fired from invisibility ✅
High damage grenade with no indicator in a chaotic game ✅
Near-instant high damage panic button on the healthiest class ✅
Detectors that connect instantly ✅
Instant mines in a game with horrific audio ✅
Healing beam that stacks on the same target ✅
45s respawns in Quickplay modes ✅
18s health regen continually extended by 10s upon receiving any damage ✅
Ranked mode that can & does face top 500 players against Silvers ✅
Event with near-instant corpse explosions in a game with melee weapons ✅
Attempt to balance weapons by adding horrible recoil patterns ✅
The unfortunate reality is that many of those responsible for designing & balancing this game simply do not have a good understanding of how to do so. DICE games are neither ability-centric nor competitive & the repercussions of this are exceptionally evident.
6v6 power shift
Yes, please
Add a marvel rivals type replay system where you can float around the maps and see the other teams
Add not egg shaped Asian male model. You added okay looking white male character model in season 4. People like good looking characters
Get rid of this shitty ass plug meta!!!!!!!!!! Bring back S2 cashout
fr tho its literally the chinese egg man
pls add diamond encrusted watch
Not power shift though, but a cashout, they would need to keep positive control over it. The time slider similar to power shift would determine the winner
Plz promo Bank It - feels like it's a hidden gem right now
After quitting the game and talking to other players what turned them off to this game. A common topic was the forced iron sights. I understand balancing guns through weapon models, but looking at a big metal bar bouncing in the middle of the screen is kind of annoying.
Consider sight customization in a large/seasonal update.
Im dying at unbelievable range with the double barrel shotun why the fuck is it almost as long as the M26 Matter?
Have you played the game since you quit? They’ve added sights to almost every gun in the game
Input-based matchmaking
It's been a year and they've barely fixed the visual recoil. There's no way in hell you'll see those changes this year. Embark is a disaster when it comes to delivering meaningful things on time. Just quit, go play something good.
how to stop getting unranked players in ranked? they literally don't even know how to run solo queue in this game is the worst thing in online gaming its unfair to get like 7/8 kills with ~4-5 revives each match and our team is the last team which makes me lose too many points that makes the ranked system is a team based but with randoms
Wanna example? Last match we were fighting a team over a cashbox
I killed one and made the second guy low and died. my teammates couldn't even kill the low guy
DON"T FORCE PS PLAYERS WITH PC PLAYERS BECAUSE THEY EITHER TOOOO GOOD OR TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD
Unfortunately this game uses ‘body type’ instead of male/female & the Heavy class is fat instead of muscular.
Most of the faces are fugly because they intend them to be.
do these devs in fucking playtest their game and not realize the fucking lag thats happening every 2 goddamn seconds
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Kyoto should be removed
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Top 500 should only queue with each other in ranked
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Better ratio on RS gain/loss
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IP ban cheaters don’t just remove for a week
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charge on heavy is one of the last things left in the game that needs balancing
__ 5v5 CASH!__ 🗣️ 🔥
__ 5v5 CASH!__ 🗣️ 🔥
__ 5v5 CASH!__ 🗣️ 🔥
this☝️
the game doesn t fokin save my video setting. the exclusive full game mode makes my game crash like gell wtf embark?
Why are both cash outs 60m from each other? Can’t even attack either with out getting fucked by either game. This game is getting trashier every season
remove frags
skill issues, double barrel does not do that damage at longer distances.
does he know
Hello
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Kyoto should be removed
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Top 500 should only queue with each other in ranked
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Better ratio on RS gain/loss
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IP ban cheaters don’t just remove for a week
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charge on heavy is one of the last things left in the game that needs balancing
this kind of lobby needs to never be a thing... the game is being ruined by this
Weekly contract to get 5 team wipeouts is not progressing at all
https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/jsN7bcqJpc45IVfn8?invite=cr-MSxjR2QsMjI4MTc2NDE2LA My frames are fucked since the update, before I ran 1080p at about 80-90fps, Now I only get 40fps if I run 1080p and 50-60fps if I run that at 50%
same but my game crashes in bursts
Sword nerf was way too much. Not fun to use anymore.
YOU NEED TO BALENCE THE LIGHT'S WEAPONS
To be clear, I PLAY light so I'm not complaining that its OP or anything. Sure, LH1 is slightly broken, but my problem is that you are literally just not effective unless you play meta weapons. The M11, LH1 and DB are what basically every light runs, and they outclass almost every other weapon in the lights arsenal. Lights have such a small margin of error, you miss more than 1, maybe 2 shots and your enemy will melt you if they're any level of good with aim. I like running pistol, maybe XP on occasion, but I lose like 70% of my 1v1s. Sure I'm high DPS but I HAVE to hit my shots. The meta weapons make it so I can't even kill lights with consistancy even taken by suprise. And I don't want to hear shit about a skill issue, this is a consistant problem. Sure, I could just run LH1 and probably do better, but I dont WANT to. My personal issue is with the V95, and I would like great accuracy/less recoil, or at LEAST revert the fire rate nerf. M11 has the absurd reload, LH1 3 taps and DB, well its the DB. Give me more usable variation for gods sake.
Also side note, why the FUCK do mines still trigger if you shoot them?!?! Like they still do what they would if you stepped on them, so gas and fire mines just block the damn cashout still, even though you "neutralized" them. Like what? Maybe I get the explosive mines but come ON its so unfair especially to low health class like Light
Thanks a lot Embark. Remove mines if they are useless.
No charge n slam nerf
Terrible spawns
Plug meta still exists
W season
I don't think the DEVs understand when a grenade is actually thrown. I have had, since the game came out, so many times that right before I die I see the grenade leave my hand but when I die it disappears. It is annoying and shoulnd't be this way. I do realize that this is just me complaining about something that the DEVs probably either don't care about or are unable to program so it works correctly.
Please give us the option to disable TAA, its making the game blurry af, not fun. Furthermore its hard for people with lower end hardware to enjoy the game, all competitive shooters should be capable of running on potatoes. I know this requires some work due to UE5's unoptimized nature but it has to be done
How about a wing suit ability for lights?
Nerf LH1
Pay attention to good feedback , embark . Fix your game……… for once…. Just listen
Ok, Quick Cash, still shit. Feels pointless, stop being stubborn, just revert the changes, make this "Vault Rush" mode. Tou can call it "bug fix" if you wish, but this ain't it Embark.
Also, play World Tour contract not progressing, for some reason I'm not surprised...
Also where the hell is the promissed stun gun re-design? Hard - Stuns - Are -Never -Fun - In - Any - Shooter.
Make quick cash great again!!!!!! 🔥 🗣️
game might as well be unplayable with this lag
Russian Roulette Limited-Time/Event Game Mode Idea:
- All players are Mediums with R.357
- In this game mode, the R.357 will be loaded with 5 blanks that do nothing and one real bullet that will kill an enemy if it hits regardless of HP
- Every time the gun is reloaded whatsoever, the position of the one real bullet will be re-randomized
Just on the mines bit, I feel like shooting gas/pyro mines to “turn them off” would be a MASSIVE unnecessary nerf to area-denial mines - this is what glitch grenades and data reshaper are meant to be used for. If you could just shoot gas/fire mines and have them not go off, there would be virtually no point in ever running them
Please let us change processor cores to performance only for laptops, asking day 300 literally (listen for once please)
Dear players, if you can, please spread the word about that, CS2 for example has such setting, the game is unplayable because of that on some laptops...
How about a mode like grand operations in Battlefield V? So the game starts out like Quick Cash then switches to another game mode (without a break) when someone scores or certain conditions are met, then to another and so on. After three game modes the winner is declared.
make charge and slam do more damage. maybe 250 per hit???
Why must i sit through games after a player disconnects? Add a system protecting teams from leaver penalties after they suffer from a leaver…. Leavers clearly dont care about time penalties, start taking their WT, Ranked, etc progress away. Or better yet, put them in a low priority queue so they can play with other leavers.
Double Barrel Shotgun needs a nerf
litterally just make it require a quick melee combo to 1 tap/mag tap
lights can be a shot and a melee, mediums two shots and a melee, heavies 3/4 shots and a melee
it actually gives some time to counterplay & increases dopamine from kills ('cause quick melee kills are like, THE most satisfying part of the game)
rage bait
What are some ideas you guys have for dematerializer counters, I was thinking rework aps to prevent dematting walls within its radius.
great idea, make it require 2 mags to kill one enemy and reduce it to the worst weapon in the game
demat is kinda already countered by just running a demat, but also you can't demat goo so if you have problems with mediums tunneling through your walls try running goo gun/nade
Is this bait? This would unironically make the weapon completely unusable worthless trash. The weapon is already balanced, it doesn’t need nerfs.
It’s on a class with 150 HP, only has 2 shots, needs to land both to have any chance of killing a full HP Medium or Heavy, and even if an enemy is standing perfectly still, if you’re further than 6m, not enough pellets will hit to 1 shot a Light/2 shot a Medium or Heavy, which is realistically more like 4m in actual gameplay scenarios. It needs to oneshot Light/twoshot Medium and Heavy to be balanced.
The counterplay is not letting the light get so close to you completely unawares.
Also, hoping you have good data on the economic trade offs, but why not even throw a couple hundred free multibucks into the mix for new players? Let players experiment with the cosmetics and store. You can get something fun for a small amount and then feel like you're not a completely generic character out of the gate. Anyway, at that point we're in the realm of business decisions...
Just used the pike for the first time this season, WHY DOES IT STILL HAVE VISUAL RECOIL????? Lh1 doesn't, therefore the pike shouldn't. Absolutely insane oversight.
I was wondering if it was just underpowered - which it kind of is - but it still having visual recoil entirely explains why no one wants to use it
world tour is unplayable in my case on gold rank I have 10k kills 800 wins and i play against dude who have 50k+ kills and 3.5k wins in almost every match.
nerf LH1
It would be really helpful for comms if there were official names for micro-locations - different areas inside a casino in Vegas (kitchen, theater, etc.), a specific building in Monaco or Skyway Stadium (something better than "that building"), etc.- built into the game with an indicator on the player HUD with the name of the micro-location you are currently in. Icing on the cake would be adding these to character voice lines on pings ("Danger at Crane", "Enemies at Mansion", etc.). I'm sure this would be a huge undertaking, but I think this would be a highly useful feature to all skill levels, especially for those who don't have a dedicated team they play/talk with.
I probably fall in the "casually competitive" area of the player base, I'm at about 400Hrs, so I feel like I know each of the maps well; I have most of the cashout/cash box locations memorized, I know the general floorplan of most buildings ||(whoever designed the center Holtow building...I just wanna talk)||, entries and exits, etc. However, I don't know them well enough to have a word or short phrase at the tip of my tongue for micro locations within them. It probably wouldn't be too hard to come up with names on my own walking around the map in a private match, studying the community made map outlines or something like that, but that doesn't necessarily help if the person I'm playing with hasn't done the same and come up with similar names.
I feel as if that Embark got lazy this season, especially with the music. They only had 3 songs, most likely due to them implementing a Jukebox that doesn't even due what's its supposed to. Usually Embark puts out 7+ songs but they only issued 3 (i guess plus that one Christmas song for 2 weeks) which was disapointing. Also in the Jukebox we should be able to choose individual songs, not seasons OSTs. We should also be able to choose the end of round theme as well.
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
in addition to the recoil problem, it just feels like it doesnt do enough damage for its slow fire rate. i would like them to make it shoot a little faster with a little less recoil
How can there be people in high ranks playing with full stack boosting the other players by cheating and not even getting banned after 2 full seasons like this is known cheater and he just cant be banned because it seems like embark does not care about the players they only want our money at this point no changes and nothing to adress all the bugs some that are still in the game after S1. Like why is the sprint bug still here and reload bug aswell and not a single balance patch or netcode fix
I haven’t experienced any lag since season 3, might just be the server or you own router. I’m not sure how to fix them but hopefully I helped find ur problem?
nerf slam and lh1
If they really wanted our money they wouldn’t make free cosmetics
based
No
Nor the battle pass achievable in 2 seasons
are people who want charge slam nerfed light mains? as a medium heavy player I don't really see a problem with it. The slam bit is powerful yeah. Maybe the problem is that it does the same damage on the ground or off a building. It could do more damage the higher you slam from. Thoughts.
remove light
The game is in very bad shape, and one of the most tangible symptoms is the matchmaking. There aren't enough players to provide a good user experience and create a matchmaking system where players can enjoy the game according to their skill level.
The game is in ruins, not to mention if you're a solo player—forget about this game. Casual players are matched with top 500 players.
There are no players; I've been warning about this since season 2. The game needed to improve the matchmaking, and nothing has been done.
3rd day in a row of crashing while starting game and getting punished for it. FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
make choosing light a bannable offense
cry about it. u sit in a game feedback channel all day and argue with people who agree that light is broken
nah i feel like there are enough players
13k JUST on PC at the same time is 100% enough
maybe they should just merge World Tour and Ranked together so we dont have the playerbase split
pike could benefit from some buffs, it isn't doing too hot in its current state. i feel like buffing the damge might make it too strong against lights, so i think that a decent fire rate buff and removing visual recoil (which for some reason the pike still has) should make play much better. also a red dot or holo would rule
just played 2 wt matches and this challenge hasn't updated for iseult stage 2
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
get rid of sword/dagger + dash
Skill issue
.50 akimbo skin idea
Add weight loss to Heavies
add reconnect to pubs
make choosing light a bannable offense
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Kyoto should be removed
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Top 500 should only queue with each other in ranked
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Better ratio on RS gain/loss
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IP ban cheaters don’t just remove for a week
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charge on heavy is one of the last things left in the game that needs balancing
if ONE top 500 player is in a given stack, they may only queue against a stack with at least ONE top 500 player also
I'm a Heavy main and sometimes you can receive 300+ damage in seconds
It does 80 damage just cause dude presses jump button close to you
- don't forget about very short CD, you can use it several times in a single clutch
"It could do more damage the higher you slam from" — this is already the way it works
I think it needs a rework, you shouldn’t be able to chain the slam to essentially instantly kill someone, other than that it’s fine.
Current balancing is fine, just nerf the lh1 a little the damage is fine just nerf the fire rate a bit so you can spam it less. Biggest problem right now is the lag, every match I have played since the end of season 4 to now is just a lag mess. Change the final round on ranked, world tour and quick cash so its more fun maybe no a powershift or king of the hill type thing. Also just as a way to make the game faster, make it so you can put away your weapon and run faster like in apex.
The second Suggestion doesnt make any sense
top 500 only against top 500??
you know how long they will have to wait to queue?
I need funny hazmat men in my game embark
Hazmat skins are tight!
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
More accessibility options in general would be nice. Fighting pink and purple teams at the same time is crazy so many times I genuinely could not tell I was getting third partied. Also grenade indicator when
Real
Remove stun. Can’t do anything with your stunned. So frustrating to play against
I don't need grenade indicators. They make a sound cue when they fall nearby. They don't in the middle of chaos. But then you should expect grenades and position yourself accordingly. I actually rarely ever get killed by frags unless it was a very messy fight and/or I put myself in a nade trap (corner of a room for instance). I like their stealthy nature when I'm the one throwing them.
Facing diamond+ players when i'm gold, matchmaking on point.
I say remove visual recoil, nerf fire rate, increase damage, give more sights
Throwable that oneshots entire teams ✅
Map-wide wallhacks with high uptime ✅
Ability on the healthiest class that oneshots 1 of just 3 classes ✅
Invisibility without a decloak ✅
Immobiliser that also disables abilities that can be fired from invisibility ✅
High damage grenade with no indicator in a chaotic game ✅
Near-instant high damage panic button on the healthiest class ✅
Detectors that connect instantly ✅
Instant mines in a game with horrific audio ✅
Healing beam that stacks on the same target ✅
45s respawns in Quickplay modes ✅
18s health regen continually extended by 10s upon receiving any damage ✅
Ranked mode that can & does face top 500 players against Silvers ✅
Event with near-instant corpse explosions in a game with melee weapons ✅
Attempt to balance weapons by adding horrible recoil patterns ✅
The unfortunate reality is that many of those responsible for designing & balancing this game simply do not have a good understanding of how to do so. DICE games are neither ability-centric nor competitive & the repercussions of this are exceptionally evident.
There's currently an audio bug that causes the sliding SFX to play constantly. It's extremely loud and completely drowns out the rest of the sounds for the entire match. I'd love to see that fixed, or at least a way to fix it when it happens.
Though this isnt my feedback, heres a video that I think is an important watch for Embark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo
Not if you're a light then it does, can't help not getting 2 shotted at more than 5 meters lmao I don't know how its a "skill issue" that I can't coordinate the double barrel range lmao
nerf slam lh1 stun and m11
theres no shot people r crying about the light double barrel now holy fk 😂
Add prop hunt
That sounds like a amazing idea
we need quality-of-life changes for menus, like timestamps on club messages, a shortcut to club contracts, the ability to see which players were on your team last game, and the ability to promote a player to party leader. this is basic stuff; it needs to get implemented
Remake the contracts for the club a team effort for your club, that change your club tag to different tiers of colors
Dash and sword is op, only 2 dashes instead of three. Also melee weapon in general shouldn’t be as strong as they are
Nerf LH1
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Kyoto should be removed
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Top 500 should only queue with each other in ranked
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Better ratio on RS gain/loss
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IP ban cheaters don’t just remove for a week
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charge on heavy is one of the last things left in the game that needs balancing
if ONE top 500 player is in a given stack, they may only queue against a stack with at least ONE top 500 player also
(these players are typically on the game for over 8 hours a day so queue times will be fine for them)
edit: embark doesn’t even check their reports for cheaters daily , this dev team is lazy at best
they should add the defib's cooldown just to the defib because the cooldown to everything is like playing with your pants down
I didnt know slam already worked like that thanks mrpipkin.
70k rs in a 40k lobby
buff akimbos to 100 damage per shot pls
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Kyoto should be removed
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Top 500 should only queue with each other in ranked (THIS WOULD FIX SO MUCH OF WHAT IS WRONG WITH MATCHMAKING)
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Better ratio on RS gain/loss
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IP ban cheaters don’t just remove for a week
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charge on heavy is one of the last things left in the game that needs balancing
if ONE top 500 player is in a given stack, they may only queue against a stack with at least ONE top 500 player also
(these players are typically on the game for over 8 hours a day so queue times will be fine for them)
dont remove kyoto, just give it a massive rework. if the rework means that we wont get a new map for s6 I would be completely fine with it
Yeah very cool please keep in the melee range I win button for heavy unchanged
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it
Unfortunately this ☝️
Asking embark to fix the games ranked balance with a wave of their magic wand is like asking a fish to tech you to climb a tree
Nerf LH1
m11 ammo and/or reload nerf
light lag
"straight dogshit"
there are real lag issues, is this one of them?
can we get skill based match making in casual game modes already? it's such a bad experience queueing into power shift and getting completely rolled by a 5 stack emerald premade
Balancing is overall good except for a few things, but this video brings up issues I notice with the game as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo
nothing ever happens
can we get rid of fucking plug meta
I wish Embark could say the following (but imagine the backlash if they did):
- There are totally legitimate gripes in the feedback players have been giving, and they can be the difference between a good game and a bad game, but...
- A game can still be good even if it isn't perfect
- Maybe not for esports or even ranked, and so players will churn off the game in a Darwinian fashion if there are better alternatives in the market, but...
- The reality is that even more casual players only focus on the instances when those imperfections and luck go against them
- They notice when an enemy's loadout feels oppressive to them. They don't notice when their own loadout confers an advantage and is oppressive to an opponent
- They notice when they get a crap spawn that hurts their chance in a game. They don't notice when the other team gets a crap spawn, when it's their turn to get the bad luck
- They notice when a server-side performance issue happens at the worst possible time for them. They don't notice when such an issue disadvantages one of their opponents.
I admit, I'm biased and really want the game and Embark to succeed. I'm only playing The Finals to have fun, but I worry that too many other players are not having fun when I read this feedback thread. What is on Embark is to try to minimize all those crappy situations I mentioned above, especially because it's human nature to experience negative experiences much more intensely than positive ones. Even if a person is philosophical, they can only be expected to forgive so much.
* Apologies for the obnoxious preaching. I mostly agree with the frustrations in this thread. 😦
I feel like there needs to be a counter for flashbings (sorry if I misspelled it text speech) kinda like smoke puts out
fire and fire ignite gas
The FAMAS is bit too good in all situations IMHO. Best TTK of all medium assault rifles, best hipfire accuracy, best recoil, and better range than the FCAR and AK. It's a laser beam and if a single round from 2 bursts headshots a light then the TTK is less than half a second.
Heavy charge is heavily bugged, the new season introduced a bunch of bugs (for instance clipping thru things)
It keeps happening to me that after charging I cannot use no weapons or gadgets, my character has its hands as if I was still charging and it just stays like that for a while (randomly fixes itself)
I got a screenshot but server wont allow uploads
delete stun gun 🤣 fucking shit of a broken gadget, legit went up against a 3 L/L/L team all Diamond and Ruby and all of them was LH1, needs to do somthing about, nothing to stop it just a walking free kill.
AND CAN WE PLEASE FINALLY FUCKING NERF FAMAS AND LH1 WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOREVER
I’ll have to disagree with you if you can hit your shots, it doesn’t matter if they had a stun gun
LH1 is the bigger issue there, not the stun gun. Only complaint I have about that is the range
balancing a game with multiple classes gadgets and guns must feel like spongebobs brain it forgets his name
embark when are we gonna do something about all these lights its becoming unhealthy for the game and it needs to be adressed idk if its most of ur player base using the class thats no excuse to make the class so oppressive....theres a reason it was bad in past seasons because now that its buffed its a major issue expesially with lh1 invis this is not how this game is suppose to feel. no more packs...no mor minor bug fixes...u have ignored this issue long enough...either start buffing heavy and medium class or the game is gonna be just like terminal; attack nothing but lights relying on gimmicks to win theres no skill gap anymore its just invis stun win
pls add a fly swatter skin for the sledge hammer
Expanding on the clubs feature, itd be cool to see higher xp rewards for the contracts if youre a higher tier member (have completed x amount of contracts) would also be nice to have a "new contracts" yellow tag by the club button on the main menu each day to have a visual reminder to even check it. Some days im guilty of just forgetting it exists
Remove charge and slam from the game this shit is insane. Stupid ass free kill button…
Dagger Refinement proposal:
Left-click: Swift attack
50 DMG, no critical from hitting back, fast attack, low damage, but good for follow-up and ending low-health enemy
Right-click: (tapping) instant backstab
120 DMG if you touch their back, 50 dmg if you miss. good for hit and run with high damage. maybe not the best choice for executing. but It can perform instantly
Right-click: (charging) charged backstab
320 DMG on their back as you knew, and 50 dmg if you miss again. Best choice for execution. But it needs to be charged first with 800 MS. and face a movement penalty
AND ONE LAST THING FIX FUCKING MATCHMAKING HOLY SHIT
Add lockbolt grabbing cashouts back you cowards
what is the actual point of coins if spawn locations are going to be this fucked
I'm on the other side of the goddamn map from both my team and the cashout
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
Custom reticles like hearts smiley faces wojack pointing meme stuff like that and ability to change the color
Notwithstanding my last comment, I expect you've heard about Arddrake's youtube video and plea. I really hope there is a way to re-allocate or obtain more resources to redouble efforts at solving existing technical issues as he recommends. I agree with him that there is a huge number of players who would come back the instant the general feel of the gameplay becomes solid. As always, grateful for this game, and wishing you all the best.
Was just about to mention the Arddrake guy, he really made a good point in his newest video, stating that the game needs not new modes/weapons etc, but a season off focusing on the technical/server problems
remove the kernel level anti cheat
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
1k hours since beta 2, my honest advice
- Embark needs to consider the "receiving end" experience more, and remaster / remove some abilities and gadgets
Some examples would be - Tazer requiring to be held to stun during the duration. Remains powerful for steal interrupt, but less annoying to fight
- Charge and slam damage ramps up over time. Remaining useful to destroy walls, knock around players, and to jump from above for massive damage, but loses the ability to half HP the enemy with just one button click
- Glitch grenade should be on impact
- Mine audio needs to be improved
- If recon sense got removed, invis spec can go aswell. We can admit they are both bad for both the new player experience & high level ranked
- Spawns and cashbox spawn positions need a lot of work. I believe most players would be fine with random experimenting, if it eventually led to ANYTHING better than the current system
- Last minute doubling & the top team 3rd partying to carry through the worst team needs to go.
- Bring back 30% wipe penalty, and split the lost cash in thirds between the team(s) which killed each player of the wiped team (ex: pink has 90k, gets wiped. 2 kills by your team and 1 kill by purple. you get 18k, purple gets 8k)
- Let players swap from their reserves mid round in ranked. Needing to spend a coin / team wipe to swap around loadout lets players change it up if their comp isnt working. Also acts as a great "get back" mechanic to teams who get wiped, allowing them some leeway if they are facing their loadout's direct "counter"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo this video please listen to this guy
There is, it’s just like a regular grenade. You just have to see it and run, not much to do about that
Recently I seen a video by Arddrake in which he talks about The Finals maybe taking a season off to optimize the game, fix server issues, dying around corners, and I agree, I didn't play the game at all for 2 seasons because it would max out my CPU making the game crash constantly. Luckily the issue has diminished enough for me to come back which leads me to believe, if Embarks ends up fixing the technical aspect of the game a lot of people would come back. Here's the video
https://youtu.be/43wio8tQ3Eo?si=gtuJaA6HfBjBx9iq
I thought dying around corners was a normal part of gaming. Feels its always been that way for me
Uh...
Maybe have plug bonus be given over time, like over 45 seconds or something.
While the plug meta is a pain in the ass, removing it would just end up encouraging way more third partying.
Split the money into three portions, one small portion for plugging, one portion given over time (maybe 45 seconds) to the cash out owner, and the final portion being given to the final owner.
It would create a reason to actually defend the cash out you plug as opposed to just plugging the cashbox then leaving to go third party someone, while still leaving some room for people who like this playstyle of fast deposits allowing them to leave maybe 1 or 2 teammates to defend while the rest of the team attempts to third party.
More cashouts, less crashouts.
(Also please optimise the game)
I propose that all Embark employees play melee weapons in solo queue on RK for one week (preferably on the Asia server), and assess whether charges need to be nerfed, if left-clicking with certain weapons should cancel running, whether the stun gun is balanced, and if damage needs to be adjusted. Embark should continue to listen to those noobs who get killed by duel blade rebound to make balance changes. It's amazing, with 1000 hours and five seasons of ranking up with melee, yet that sword still can't beat a heavy who’s only played for 2 hours, shoots two bullets, and presses the Q key.
That is fxcking crazy.
M11 doesn’t need a nerf. XP-54 needs a damage buff. Stun gun doesn’t need any changes. With the sole exception of the LH1, everything on Light is balanced or underpowered.
make it so the stun gun cant stop you from taking a cashout
nerf lights as a whole every gun is incredibly broken
light sacrifices health for speed and damage. thats the whole point of light.. to deal damage
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remove the kernel level anticheat
Get gud
People wanna complain about Light a lot.
But a 3 stack of Mediums with FCAR/Famas is very scary :(
its quite clear to me that the TTK of m11 and lh1 dont fit the game at all. If people want everything buffed to that level then every death feels like dying to aimbot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo
please see this devs..........
I love The Finals that have World tour and ranked Tournament. I see someone wanna make it become one. But these both have different purposes. World Tour is for collecting your progression and Experience. Learn from mistakes to make contestants become more talented and stronger. And Ranked Tournament is for player who wanna clam on top. No mistake in this match. Only for player who want to become the winner of this game
Embark, please, you need to take a season to sit back and optimize THE FINALS. No new content, just pure, full throttle, optimization both of in-game code and netcode. this game is not tournament ready for those reasons, and players are dropping like flies because of the minor annoyances that stack game after game that can make or break the outcome of a match. Rainbow Sig Siege did this when it was in almost a 1 to 1 place as THE FINALS, and look at where the game is now. You need a sturdy ground to build your success off of. This game is not built in a sturdy manner - at least not enough to compete in any way in the gaming market. I love THE FINALS so dearly, its my favourite FPS ever made and will stick with me for a long time. This game deserves to succeed and be the best version it possibly can be ❤️
Why can't the game always play the words, this problem has existed for a long time, several consecutive seasons, please pay attention to.
im sure this has been said many times but it would be a nice touch to show which Knockout round you are in when you press tab for World Tour, i forget a lot and so do my friends, i might just be dumb but it would be nice to have a little reminder, thanks!
Stun gun should be for stopping cashouts instead people just use it to slow players down and shoot them the fact that it stops people from using specs, slows them down to slower then a snail and can stop a cashout all in one is not a balanced gadget not a single spec do do that much
Asking for the (5th?) time embark - add multiplayer practice range: join practice range map with party members if you are in a party, or make a practice range game mode in private match. Also perhaps make practice range a little larger.
Fix spawning system - it’s really annoying to get wiped by a team and then they get stalled enough so that you have time for one final push but then you spawn on the opposite side of the map 300m away and have no choice but to give up.
Light needs m11 and stun nerfed and maybe lh1. Heavy needs charge and slam nerfed. Medium needs model nerfed and maybe rework turret(im not saying it needs a nerf it is just really really annoying)
Make quick melee a last resort - it’s annoying as shit to have a light dash straight at you after third partying and then press v and do an insta finisher. I feel like quick melee should do 20 dmg at most. I feel like it should be a last ditch effort to get that final hit on an enemy instead of just a free way to get in extra dmg if you are close.
hi, we still dont have Russian (or Ukrainian language) in the game. When can we get this?
Not having skill based matchmaking is obviously the reason why this game isn’t really the most successful, just add it geniuses 😒 Post Scripture: the model 1887 has already been nerfed to the ground, Jasper
Model and LH1 nerf would be nice
Game crashes when reconnecting/joining SYS.Horizon
Worst servers in the industry, easily the most inconsistent fps i've played
Embark, please i beg you to read this. We're here, we'll wait for you, i love this game and so does everyone still playing it despite its pitfalls. Please take a season, no new weapons, no new maps, no new nothing except cosmetics for cashflow, and take that time to work on the game. If the finals is going to die, it's not by having 1 huge flaw, it's by a 1000 small cuts bleeding you out from all over the body. Dying around corners, vaulting when you don't want to, rubber wonky movement, not enough visual feedback from the game, bullets not registering. The game feels a bit funky, wonky and honesly boinky and dare I say bonkers at times. That's what makes people turn away to other games that FEEL good.
Embark, please i beg you to read this. We're here, we'll wait for you, i love this game and so does everyone still playing it despite its pitfalls. Please take a season, no new weapons, no new maps, no new nothing except cosmetics for cashflow, and take that time to work on the game. If the finals is going to die, it's not by having 1 huge flaw, it's by a 1000 small cuts bleeding you out from all over the body. Dying around corners, vaulting when you don't want to, rubber wonky movement, not enough visual feedback from the game, bullets not registering. The game feels a bit fuky, wonky and honesly boinky and dare I say bonkers at times. That's what makes people turn away to other games that FEEL good.
game isnt launching on steam 😾
MGL32 has a bug where the grenade will BOUNCE TWICE if it hits the ground first and then an enemy shield; doing NO DAMAGE ON THE SECOND SURFACE CONTACT.
MGL32 was INDIRECTLY NERFED previous seasons during AOE "fixes" because yall FAILED TO APPLY EQUAL PERCENTAGE AOE INCREASE for explosives equally.
MGL32 should not do 1 damage in any circumstance; there should be a MINIMUM DAMAGE with a LINEAR FALLOUT TO MINIMUM DAMAGE
I can easily play through emerald 1 lobbies but will get 0-1 kills regularly if i use the MGL32; it is the LEAST PICKED weapon in the game.
Embark the new week of world tour is so good can you make it permanent in world tour
Goood game
dumb
Heavies don’t even shoot anymore. All they do is charge. Nerf this shitty ass specialization already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo Embark we are begging you, save this game
Dagger Refinement proposal:
Left-click: Swift attack
50 DMG, no critical from hitting back, fast attack, low damage, but good for follow-up and ending low-health enemy
Right-click: (tapping) instant backstab
120 DMG if you touch their back, 50 dmg if you miss. good for hit and run with high damage. maybe not the best choice for executing. but It can perform instantly
Right-click: (charging) charged backstab
320 DMG on their back as you knew, and 50 dmg if you miss again. Best choice for execution. But it needs to be charged first with 800 MS. and face a movement penalty
Lag ever single game; fiber internet, ping 12ms
Winch related lag
Video upload limits lol
I maxed out my isult standing but my badge is not maxed lol
"remove the kernel level anticheat"
what
It is dumb that lights can rat in corners close by and completely deny a cashout by shooting someone once
i want an m60 animation pack
just get rid of light at this point the class doesnt do anything for the game anyways
nah dagger only needs some qol changes it doesn't need any direct buffs, just remove the slow penalty when charging/holding right click and some other qol stuff that we already reported in the dagger fourm
More modes please
lh1 has 0 fall off, you can stand at the edge of the map with special scopes that give you 0 recoil and can do 350 dmg in 4 clicks
Spawns are NOT fixed in Quick Cash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WIzL9T0cQ
Bro, It's not directly buffs. This is "Refinements". It just makes something that is already fine to become better in qol without removing any slow penalty to make this weapon too powerful that's gonna make many players wanna nerf and revert it back to the same.
Winch+Sledge?
As a "legal cheater" who uses broken OP mechanics (same as stun gun vs melee) u totally deserve everything u get
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo
Summarized:
- Take a pause from new content and focus in stability
- Servers feel a bit wonky since 2 seasons
- Increase the tickrate, make the game feel snappier
- Stabilize netcode
Leveled up to the second to last level in iseul-t ( teir 1 platinum signee badge ) but didn’t receive it I still have the teir 2 badge in my badge selection for player card. Has anyone else had this issue? Tried reloading the game & it’s not correcting it.
delete light class
Using my 30 minutes to say /agree
I think being able to wall run would be a good movement mechanic
huge W
wtf are you going on about "legal cheats"?
All cheats are legal
This kit was built around countering cheaters, there is nothing OP about a winch that doesnt work over half time and a sledge that doesnt hit reg the other half.
Fix the game lag then we can talk, and dont even get me started on the amount of people cheating in this game
STILL the worst servers in the industry
me looking at people suggestion in here at anytime of the day
Bring Powershift to Las Vegas and Bernal.
I don't understand the point of having extra modes like powershift/TA if you arent going to add new maps to them ever. hasnt been a new powershift map since sys horizon
I would love to see a rework for stun gun
So it functions similarly to a wintch claw or glitch mine only effecting the player as long as the tasers wire is embeded in the player labeling them unable to retaliate but the effect can be broken if the wire is broken by a teammate or the light player is killed
The new stun gun should be a specialization
Dagger Refinement proposals
Make it can tap right click to perform instant backstab with 120 dmg, and Hold right click to perform charge backstab with 320 dmg execution.
It has many games that make characters perform two different attacks with only one button, for example, MegaMan, Dead by Daylight
And this is overview of dagger Refinements, not buff:
Left-click: Swift attack
50 DMG, no critical from hitting back, fast attack, low damage, but good for follow-up and ending low-health enemy
Right-click: (tapping) instant backstab
120 DMG if you touch their back, 50 dmg if you miss. good for hit and run with high damage. maybe not the best choice for executing. but It can perform instantly
Right-click: (charging) charged backstab
320 DMG on their back as you knew, and 50 dmg if you miss again. Best choice for execution. But it needs to be charged first with 800 MS. and face a movement penalty
no mele weapon deserves to be this strong
mele weapons should stay gimic weapons as they are horrible to fight against.
game is uninstalled ive had it with the lights im out
nothing would make dagger too op other than facestabs, but dealing 120 with instant backstab will lower the skill floor of the weapon that shouldn't have a low skill floor
All cheats are illegal except those that were introduced by the devs themselves (stun gun vs melee, winch+SA/Sledge)
Those r what I call a legal cheats, when a prayer is so bad at this game he uses mechanics that give him a free kil
"About a winch that doesnt work over half a time and a sledge that doesnt hit reg the other half" — this is a lie
I'm a sledge main myself and sledge not registering a hit is a rare problem
+people using firearms sometimes see their bullets deal no damage too
You're living in your own world of definitions.
Cheats are completely legal and that's why so many people use them .
If you picked up a medium and played range You would see that Hammer has to be in a very specific Niche to be used properly
And you're excusing shitty game servers by your opinion that people are "legally cheating"
having more than 2 teams is a problem
normally, the better you do, the more likely you are to win
but currently, unless your team can reliably beat 2 teams back to back, you will always be incentivized to camp until the others fought, then wipe the winners
you are deterred from playing the game and winners are often punished
it feels all mixed up and backwards
some people probably like the chaos, which is fine
but id love an alternative
power shift is too different and has its own problems with stacking and being forced into an open position under spam to win
TA with its sparse health regen and limited items has a very similar problem
please add a 5v5 mode that plays more like qc/cashout
And this refinements don't have a gimmic ??? This refined Dagger is still have an old gimic that you already have for long by backstabbing people. It doesn't lost any gimic. What are you taking about?
And @torpid sky . I don't think having instant Backstab is will lower the skill floor. Make the dagger have different options is gonna be a high skill floor on making decisions in the right situation. If you make the wrong decision, you're gonna die. I just wanna make it hybrid. Have a third option. But if you wanna adjust instant Backstab to have a dmg that is lower than 120 dmg. I'm ok with that. I mean many light players come to talk with me about my old version of dagger Refinements is too weak. My old version is an instant Backstab with 80 DMG. But they want 120 DMG and now i try to go along with them. And now this day is coming. The day that someone say to me that 120 dmg instant Backstab is too strong.
embark, your rank matchmaking is already some of the worst ever, just fucking remove it SO I DONT SIT IN QUE FOR 30 MINS TO PLAY A 8 MIN GAME PLEASE EMBARK I WANT TO ACTUALLY PLAY I LITERALLY CANT
nerf lh1
just remove light all together and 80% of the games problems gets fixed lets be real here its not even a needed class for any scenario its just there to be annoying it serves no purpose vs the other 2 just remove it and buff all the guns back that were nerfed cause of bad light players complaining about those weapons and boom the games feels great again the weapons actually will feel good again...ive been playing the game since season 1 and this is the worst it has ever felt id rather be back in s3 at this point when heal beam actually heals ur heavy from 1 without overheating when rpg actually felt like its doing something the game is constantly going downhill cause of one class and its frustrating i love this game but i cant even relax in a casual game cause all u see is lights with m11 lh1 and invis and ik u guys have to get tired of nerfing all ur cool new weapons cause u have to dance around light players not to mention ur solo q and matchmaking experience is horrible idk man its not looking good u have stepped away from the way u invisioned this game to be and its sad
The problem is not in a melee weapon — the problem is in a broken, deadly specialization that allows noobs to make effortless free kills
Before s3 barely any1 played sledge even though it's secondary attack had multihit back then
You either had to stick to Slam to play Sledge or GooGun which is pretty hard to utilize
And in both situations you had to push and risk ur HP to come close enough to land a hit
And in s3 devs introduced Winch Claw which broke that logic allowing trash players to just grab their victims from 17m (later reduced to 12m which is still OP) under guaranteed 155-240 damage
@untold locust I'm not excusing shitty game servers I just despise players who use broken unbalanced stuff
@lost talon 3. It's probably the best thing they could have done to defib, this way it's fairly balanced
You wouldn't be able to shoot and perform any actions without being defibed so you already received your advantage and was given a second chance
If you dislike this opportunity so much you can ask your teammate not to revive you
oh i thought you were advocating for a mele buff
i strongly belive that mele weapons should never be meta and should stay gimic weapons
cuz they are NEVER fun to fight against
weird illusional wall, I'm feeling like i have finding stupid secret access on a fucking fromsoftware game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo
Found this video, uploaded recently, I agree wholeheartedly (talks about improving performance and servers to make the base game less frustrating)
Just a video to sort of get my thoughts out there and hopefully be viewed by someone at embark. I probably won't be checking on this or anything, I just felt compelled to make this because of how much I care about The Finals. #TheFInalsHealthUpdate
This is a rant about the state of the game and most people are upset with QC changes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/jH3AFfQ3r0
Give us quick cash back this LTM we're stuck with is not fun
thats not how the game works, you're ruining solo Q
stupid embark . who tf tought is a good idea to introduce exclusive full screen experimental mode and keep changing to that option. i need to change my setting every time i open the fokin game
Personally I'm asking for improvement for servers since S2 maybe. I'm piss of dying behind cover, wall, doors, at 3 meters from a hammer or a sword. It's a fcking pain in the ass. Even more and unfair when you only got 150hp
Melee weapon should gtf out of this game.
fix the fking bugged game
Melee weapons are easily countered with proper positioning especially considering all new maps feature much more open space than the original ones
@lost talon it would be nice if you copy the the text you're replying to
What ruins solo Q? New defib?
fix the servers, we arent in 2003 no more, half of the shots dont register
I agree, hit registration and server side desync is very bad since the last couple days. This is even more noticable in moving platforms. God knows how many times I fell while standing still
Season 5 has brought a new map but nothing else, it’s just Season 4.1. New map and what? The meta overhaul made defib worse and mediums slightly less mobile. Medium and light are yet to get a 4th specialization.
World Tour is getting random new colored buildings and limited maps with awful modifiers, like the last week of Season 4 World Tour. Playing only Suspended Structures was getting so lame so fast. Making me play more Kyoto than usual in some weeks is not an event, and seeing a red Monaco house is like whatever. World Tour is lame. Ranked is worse. The system is awful. Third parties because of rank previews and the current money system need changes.
Dagger, my main weapon, a light grip weapon, still slows me down to be slower than a heavy and still has a worse TTK than any gun since I need to be point blank. New cosmetics are mid and level 70-100 progression are badges, really? You could have made some more clothes, but we got filler stuff that nobody wants. We are yet to change the World Tour badge to a different one, and stun gun still hard counters melee if you don’t have a goo grade or dome shield.
The game still has so many bugs, like a 10-second lobby freeze every time I come into the lobby with a really good PC, and there is still the sprint bug in the game. Cheaters are still present quite a bit. Desync is still horrible. We are yet to get a replay system—I know it’s hard to implement, yet not impossible—and no kill cams, which can just be done via a recording system.
Game still lags over stupid things. I have 1,100 hours in this game. I played every season, spent so much money on this game, but Season 5? I was expecting major content and cool stuff like the death statue representing teammates’ class or outfits. Not even such minor cool things have been done. Season 5 was a new map and that’s about it. I’ve never played this little The Finals in any season. I am praying for updates and content.
Edit: We are yet to recieve the sorry voice lines for the fast comm wheel which was prommised by the devs
Add Travis Scott concert
You can't coordinate with solo queue players about viability of defibs, breaking all the gadgets and specs does nothing but punish the guy being defibbed, the numbers speak for themselves
Listening to dagger mains complain about anything goes like this; womp womp womp womp womp womp womp womp womp womp.
Outside of the spawn changes to Q/C S/5 is a dub.
You guys really need to test the contracts you're putting in the game. Alot of them just simply don't work. Like play cashout or world tour things and earn cash in cashout modes and such.. Just stick to the damage and eliminaton contracts lol
THIS. Great feedback
Revert the update this exclusive fullscreen and setting revert is dogshit
I put 60$ on your game if you remove anime skin
think about it Embark 😏 💰
nerf famas / lh1
Let's please not clutter feedback more than it already is. Thanks.
STILL IN A FUCKING QUE EMBARK PUT ME IN A GODDAMN GAME FORGET QUALITY OF MATCHES PLEASE I JUST WANT QUES
Embark, watch this video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo (Same as this one #👂┇game-feedback message) A season working just on working out technical kinks and flaws is needed!
Dagger Refinement proposals (refixed)
All about this proposal is just make dagger of The Finals can tap right click to perform "instant backstab" the backstabbing that is the gimmick that dagger already have before in beta. And The damage of instant Backstab is decreased to make it balance and It need a high skill floor to perform it. Now, Instant Backstab is coming with 90 dmg, and Hold right click to perform charge backstab with 320 dmg execution as always.
It has many games that make characters perform two different attacks with only one button, for example, MegaMan, Dead by Daylight
And this is overview of dagger Refinements, not buff:
Left-click: Swift attack
50 DMG, no critical from hitting back, fast attack, low damage, but good for follow-up and ending low-health enemy
Right-click: (tapping) instant backstab
90 DMG if you touch their back, 50 dmg if you miss. good for hit and run with high damage. maybe not the best choice for executing. but It can perform instantly
Right-click: (charging) charged backstab
320 DMG on their back as you knew, and 50 dmg if you miss again. Best choice for execution. But it needs to be charged first with 800 MS. and face a movement penalty
+1 since reactions are not allowed here
please remove world tour, it is splitting the cashout player base too much. I've been trying to find a ranked queue for over an hour this morning. It's not fair that I literally cannot find a match during the few hours of the day that I can actually play the game
remove light
Turn crossplay on and off requeue and cancel before switching back.
You guys do great on every front besides bugs and balancing. I don’t know why you decided to throw 100k at a major before getting these two things together. You have no competitive community to compete
World tour events suck they add nothing new. Do something different like you did in beginning like the added health for plugging money. Do something to make it actually interesting.
theres a bug thing, if a teammate doesnt load into the game it doesnt count as the teammate leaving so u will still lose points for losing and lose points if u leave the game.. this time the glitch wasted 50 minutes of my time and it has happened alot of times to me
someone will defrib u will spawn with half health they camp they kill u , u cant run cause embark has fucked u for 5 seconds , nice!
WW 120hz on console. Now only activate kbm on console
Remove world Tour so that that we get better matchmaking in Ranked
Since world Tour and Ranked are kinda the same it doesnt make any sense to have the playerbase split between 2 modes that just make the matchmaking worse
detect if the game crashes. I just got banned from matchmaking because it crashed
Is this contract broken?
Thanks @bold vine
This contract is currently broken for the World Tour part. You have to do it in Bank it.
FIX RANKED MATCHMAKING!
I’m only a silver 4 and I get put into gold lobbies, it ruins the entire match/game
Honestly embark this whole sponsorship program ruins the game and needs serious help. It sucks and you get so little fans from playing the game no matter which mode. It kills my drive to play this game. Make it easy to gain fans or don’t do sponsorships.
Feedbacks : Good stuff
embark : here is a animation bug fix
Feedback: bullets dont register, game lags
embark: heres new cosmetics
(i hope the game doesnt die, plz embark 😦 )
nah mate ur alone in this
Sponsorships are awesome. More free rewards for playing are always a good thing. A little grindy but if you log on and do the dailies and that’s it I think it’s enough to get all the tiers. My only problem is I can’t get the cosmetics for every sponsor just the one so I’ll be a bit sad when I have to choose between my favorite couple sponsors
Edit: responded to wrong comment lol
if you win ranked match you take like 1.5k pts... if you lose 1 game pos. 7/8 you loose 1.1k pts.. ..... like 30 min game for 1.5k and you can loose 1.1k 8 min... perfect gamble
BRO YEAH
those weekly updates dont DO anything
thats in lower ranked too, when your like diamond you win much less and lose much more
Just a video to sort of get my thoughts out there and hopefully be viewed by someone at embark. I probably won't be checking on this or anything, I just felt compelled to make this because of how much I care about The Finals. #TheFInalsHealthUpdate
yeh i just saw the vid. Hopefully devs can see it and have some health updates. also fix spawns plzz
why ppl suddenly started spamming that vid
They want embark to see it
this guy killed it at explaining what needs fixed to make the game better
you should have a list of items to choose from for each class for the Circuit rewards each season, they keep being weapons I never use
@manic bobcat they love you..................
https://youtu.be/43wio8tQ3Eo?si=2kcfgMY8xdqKjdhk
This is worth paying attention to.
true
The game doesn’t reward good solo play. That’s why it’s not succeeding.
i think we can all do without content for 1 season in exchange for the game's health
Can you change me back to 1887? Look at what the hell you've changed, 1887's appearance rate is already low, he's a face-type firearm, I'm now consumed half of my HP by Famas before I get close to my opponent, how to play, the damage is reduced, the feel is weakened, you guys who don't do their business killed this weapon! I've played this game for 900 hours and I've never had it so angry, the game is fun, and I suggest it's better to go back to the S1 season, it's better for everyone
It does feel like it’s harder to carry / make a meaningful difference if you even have one guy not at least contributing. I think it comes back to matchmaking being all over the board so far for me. Teams are one extreme or the other for me when running solo.
Bad take. Sponsorships are great and the cosmetics you get from them are great as well. Why are you even complaining about this? It’s not hard to get the every reward either since the seasons are really lengthy and you have plenty of time to farm fans.
Jumped on for a long day of grinding back to top 125 in WT. Just a normal fun Saturday... until literally the second game. Current state of game is INFESTED with cheaters. It is literally mind boggling that nothing is being done to take care of this practical issue
Was in the menu for 20 mins walking my dogs. Came back to run a ranked tournament and I am now banned for 2 hours. I haven’t backed out of any matches today????
its a gamble...
personal opinion embark needs to play test on actual servers with real players and not play testers to see how sweaty people are and then understand how to counteract that with updates patches and fixes instead of taking the word of people who could just bee complaining to complaining and getting what they want to make them play better and force everyone else to bear the burden of it
In silver. Back to back to back lobbies of current season diamond - emerald 1 kids. Why….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo
devs should watch this
Just a video to sort of get my thoughts out there and hopefully be viewed by someone at embark. I probably won't be checking on this or anything, I just felt compelled to make this because of how much I care about The Finals. #TheFInalsHealthUpdate
Lol this is crazy I wasn't expecting this kinda response. I hope it helps the game get to a better state!
We appreciate sharing Arddrake's video, but one link is enough 
Thank you for the video 
Actual lazy af dev team. Fix your trash game or keep bleeding players. Anything that is not ranked is so unplayable because of brainless COD kids. Worst season of the game so far, trash BP trash balancing and trash QC changes. Instead of taking a break maybe focus on actually making the game playable again instead of having to be a meta slave with the same loadout each and every match.
And delete light, skillless, brainless class that needs barely any input to work. If you actually think this class takes skill you are beyond fucking salvageable.
https://youtu.be/43wio8tQ3Eo?si=VL5EpumF_c_ljDY1
We have plenty of content as it stands, now is the time to focus on the game’s health!
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
What’s good medium build I have every gadget in the game for all classes and I want to start grinding rank as medium I already have a heavy and a light so the comms are good but I just need atleast 2 good loadouts
molotov cocktail needs a buff
So much emotion, how much RS did you just lose? You dont have to be a meta slave - I got top 4000 last season solo q with only riot shield. Just find ways to be successful on whatever weapon you want to use and don’t sweat your rank so much. I dont play light but it’s also obvious based on playstyle that light is higher on the “mechanically demanding” side of things in that you need good aim and positioning to be successful. Saying light takes no skill at all is cope, they’re just annoying to deal with when they play properly
Someone recommended FAMAS with scope to me yesterday and I have been loving it. Jumppad, Defibs, plus whatever you vibe with. I’m still newer to the game but have been doing decent with that setup. Healing Beam is great with a good team.
I wanted to say something but I think you handled it pretty well
THE GAME HAS CRASHES WHEN RTX IS ACTIVATED ESPECIALLY HIGH . FROM S1 EVEN IF IT S WITH NVIDIA OR AMD
Buff dual blades revert stealth dual blades nerf in 5.4
Embark PLEASE LET RANDOMS JOIN IF SOMEONE LEFT A WORLD TOUR MATCH FOR MORE THAN 5 MINS OR SOMETHING! BEFORE THE MATCH EVEN STARTED, MY 3RD TEAMMATE DID NOT EVEN LOAD IN. I PLAYED WT WITHOUT A 3RD TEAMMATE WHICH IS A GUARANTEED LOSS. WHAT DO U EXPECT US TO DO? 7MINS OF JUST BACK TO BACK TEAM WIPEOUT(and it’s my team)
I love the finals so much but this season ive had real problems dealing with light class as a heavy. The movement with the dash completely offsets their low health when paired with the double barrel shotgun or even the uzi. Also i had a game earlier was at full health a light class just appeared in front of me and i was shooting them straight away with the m60 but they completely melted me with the uzi. Id get this if they got the jump on me but i started shooting them as soon as they appeared and they just soaked my shots and melted me. What is the point in having a heavy class if its going to die so easily to a light class. Shouldn't it be able to tank some damage? It just feels a lot worse this season than before for some reason and I've played the game for a few seasons now ranking emerald in WT and on track to get emerald again soon. I think personally the light class really needs to be looked at because I'm starting to lose enjoyment from the game as it doesn't feel like a fair fight a lot of the time.
Playing a world tour match as a bronze against ruby players is not fun, at all
Literally just lost a powershift because my dome shield got destroyed by a grenade as it was getting deployed, overtime and was about to cross the boundary. Am i the only one that thinks this should be a function, and the dome shield should have invincibility until deployed, i get that if u shoot it or something it gets destroyed but it was even deployed and the guy threw a grenade from a mile away, was stuck with no defense when i needed it.
When putting out toxic gas with the flamethrower it's too inconsistent.
Sometimes it goes out immediately, sometimes it takes a few seconds and sometimes it just absolutely will not go away even with a flamethrower inside of the gas cloud
I think it sounds kinda cool that a clutch grenade trickles in before deployment and destroyed the shield. Sucks for you but epic from the other side!
Once again asking for a report option for people purposefully team killing
Dear Embark Team,
Please give us Ranked Club Power Shift game mode.
Club vs Club ladder.
Clubs challenge other clubs to 5x5 Power Shift matches using Club interface and compete for ladder positions.
Dagger Refinement proposal: (updated)
Left-click: Swift attack
50 DMG, no critical from hitting back, fast attack, low damage, but good for follow-up and ending low-health enemy
Tab Right-click: instant backstab
90 DMG if you touch their back, 50 dmg if you miss. good for hit and run with high damage. maybe not the best choice for executing. but It can perform instantly
Charge Right-click: charged backstab
320 DMG on their back as you knew, and 50 dmg if you miss again. Best choice for execution. But it needs to be charged first with 800 MS. and face a movement penalty
What will happen when against all builds with instant Backstab?
Light build(150 HP):
-90,90 = 180 DMG.
-2 Hits to kill light
Medium build(250 HP):
-90,90,90 = 270 DMG
-3 Hits to kill medium
Heavy build(350 HP):
-90,90,90,90 = 360 DMG -hard to kill heavy. But if you are talented enough. 4 Hits is enough for you
But can we get skill based matchmaking for the casual modes already, league had it a decade ago. 4-5 stack emeralds in powershift is a real fucked up experience
This would be interesting. Just played against a 4 stack emerald team in Power Shift (I am bronze). It was effing awful, would much rather play against solo queues or small groups
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43wio8tQ3Eo
This resonated with me a lot.
Just a video to sort of get my thoughts out there and hopefully be viewed by someone at embark. I probably won't be checking on this or anything, I just felt compelled to make this because of how much I care about The Finals. #TheFInalsHealthUpdate
Consider improving the matchmaking algorithm (if it exists) using heuristics such as input-related metrics/statistics instead of just win:loss, k:d (e.g. maximum angular velocity — don't pair players who can rotate 180° in 10 frames with players who require 45 frames for the same). Pair players with similar shot accuracy and damage, similar average TTK, etc.
Maybe if everyone keeps reposting this they'll eventually see it
A love letter to embark: FIX YOUR GAME!!!
bro in the beta the MOVEMENT made you ACTUALLY MOVE. u got a boost in speed once u hit a slide. which made it feel like titanfall 2. i also liked the fact that if u sent a vault flying into the station at the last second u would secure it instantly giving the potential for CRAZY plays!
also give light the ability to grapple flying props when a friendly (or their own) gadget is attached to it.
One time my friend yeeted a vault across the map GOT IT IN and it WON US THE GAME. that for us WAS PEAK FINALS.
and we sent a cashout flying into an enemy... KILLING THEM!!!
and for some reason although embark said they will bring patches to aid in performance, to me it seems that the performance keeps on getting worse cuz in the beta i was getting steady 100 fps 120 max and NOW?? im getting sometimes max 80. but average 60 fps and below with massive drops in frames every time a load into the match
why tf do i auto drop items when a gateway spawns infront of me?? EMBARK I WANT TO THROW MY VAULT NOT LET IT SIT THERE COMTEMPLATING ITS LIFE CHOICES !?!?!?
also make light an actual GLASS CANNON. he cant kill ANYTHING faster than a medium shotty, or a heavy anything, so lights need to be seen as a threat for their weapons and killing potential rather than just "oh no they have a glitch grenade" or "oh no they have a stun gun"
also why do weapons and gadgets become MORE AND MORE expensive. just give them a price of 1200 vrs on their launch then the next season cut it in half so its easier to unlock stuff. OR EVEN BETTER! DONT cap the amount of VRs someone can have. then people can buy the weapons they PLAYED to unlock and it rewards players that play CONSTANTLY.
The new circle around the cashout that gives fans is an interesting addition. It'd be cool if emotes increased fans while in the circle
Hi Embark team!
Please make cross-achievements between the platforms. Performing the same achievements on two platforms is terribly boring, especially if the achievement is very situational. It's strange that this doesn't exist, given that the progression is postponed. 
Please don't.
quite honestly refreshing to see suggestions (like this) that arent reeking of stinking biohazard dogshit
🦭 of approval
https://youtu.be/43wio8tQ3Eo?si=8aLm5euVkUzeiBRH
I agree with this guy.
As much as I want to see new maps, modes, gadgets, & guns; the finals might need a "health update".
Whenever you guys have the resources available, take the time to invest in better servers.
ESPORTS is definitely something that AAA games have but they also have great server health.
Overwatch could keep up when every player was performing ultimates (calculating hundreds of modifiers immediately)
Rocket league
Call of duty
Valorant
Nobody really even likes Valorant, the finals is way better than that game factually BUT the finals is not as smooth.
We understand that the destruction is intense but if there is a great expectation there should be an equally great level of support.
Please consider 🙏🏾
Just a video to sort of get my thoughts out there and hopefully be viewed by someone at embark. I probably won't be checking on this or anything, I just felt compelled to make this because of how much I care about The Finals. #TheFInalsHealthUpdate
Hey... I love the finals and I want to see it succeed, and I want to see Embark succeed.
I personally thank you for putting a lot more time into the finals, I personally don't like the gameplay of ark raiders at all, I don't like pvpve, and I beg of you to allocate more resources to the finals.
Devs.... I haven't seen a community get as depressed as this one since Titanfall 2... can you please acknowledge our issues so we can look forward to the future of this game? we only have so much life and we want to invest our time where the least frustration occurs.
- No in-game ping and framerate counter.
- More customization, for instance sights colors as @vestal igloo said
, Apex literally has it. - Servers are still terrible (this one is understandable tho).
- Console players are still not able to interact nor see text chat.
- Only the party leader can invite people, party members have to ask the leader to invite their common friend.
- New player experience is still terrible despite the rework of the cashout tutorial and effort on it from last season.
- The "meta overhaul" that was promised is still not executed, resulting in the nerfs given to the CL-40 then the Model last season letting players find out about the LH1 being broken since in fact last season, not just this one. Introducing the red dot to it made it more accessible. Don't get me wrong, it's my favorite weapon in the entire game in terms of feel, but it's definitely slightly overtuned and needs a bit of a fire rate nerf.
- World Tour is in an identity crisis. New players would think this is the Ranked game mode and would wonder why there are two "Ranked" game mode. It needs more crazy modifiers, a rework of the scoring system (money + wins which earns you a lot more money, instead of just wins), and the Multibucks rewards transferred to Ranked (that's one of the main attractions of WT, you get to earn M$ from it).
- More game show events, like... we haven't got new ones since a long time and some were removed from the rotation. How about an earthquake event, or like any natural hazard?
- Just better communication between the dev team and the player base overall. I know that Embark is A LOT more communicative to their player base than other studios out there but there are still taboos that shouldn't be and that would make things better for the game.
i want world tour to feel like an arcade version of ranked where anything goes
make lights jump 150% higher, make medium able to siphon health from enemies with the heal beam, make heavy able to throw lights or just make them throw their bullets instead of using a gun. make it shits and giggles, give light 2 grapple charges, give heavy a slide and slam, give medium a healing grenade (could also apply to light) give the option for RANDOMISED loadouts with ANY weapon/gadget from ANY CLASS
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
weekend cheater alert, its really bad
This kind of scenario makes me want to quit the game. How it worked in the Beta and the First season was so much better because 3rd and 4th always had a chance to come back, even up until the last 10 seconds of the game. Now it's like what even was the point of playing this match? If those two teams were guaranteed to move on by the 6minute point of the match, why even play out the rest of it. Why should I just not quit? It sucks.
The reward for doing well at the beginning of the match should only be for the team in first. If you do pretty good at the start of the match, but not as good as the team in first, than that's a skill issue and you have to suffer the consequences of potentially being overtaken at the last second by 3rd or 4th. This game is themed off of a GAMESHOW not a sports competition. Rigorous delineation of skill sans luck is not what a GAMESHOW is about. No wonder players are dropping this game, this scenario is not fun.
Let us equip the rings with the samurai set, please! Some of the gloves are also unintrusive and would go well with this set, without any clipping
The game is overly team based. I like the slower TTK. But faster health recovery would, I think, allow for more hero moments. I hate running and hiding constantly. And being chased forever and ever because they know you’ll never get your health back.
No need to post the video please, it has been posted 15 times already 
i think medium is to strong. fast revive and the dps are to crazy
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
Make cashout no longer give you money for putting it in. Too often is there a triple light team who can get 30k+ without fighting by just stealing and gatewaying cash boxes and putting them in
tbf most people dont keep up with this chat and wont scroll up beforehand. if people repost it naturally without knowing then honestly its a good show of how people agree
noone scrolls up + people agree with the guy
i too agree with the dude
- Health update first (lag, client/server POV, crashing, accessibility options)
- Casual retention second (better onboarding, new simple gamemodes, better conveying of principles to the new player (tutorial/UI/simple class loadouts, etc))
- Competitive scene third (fix meta, grr meta bad, but tournament cool)
@bold vine noone scrolls up ☠️ its not on purpose
It's not gonna make things any faster. However, all feedback is allowed the same visibility, not just one. Thank you!
I got robbed is what it was... 😢😂
I'm just thinking about this now, but how much of The Finals' marketing went hard on showing off the creative parts of the game?
They highlighted nukes in the one trailer, but the majority of footage I've seen out of the game outside of occasional user-posted clips on here and my own gameplay has been pretty standard-if-frenetic shooter gameplay. A lot of people didn't really seem to understand what made it different or special. Even the season highlights are usually pretty bland kills. There's so much you can do with the gadgets and environmental interactions in this game and yet it never seems to be highlighted or particularly encouraged.
On the topic of things that could help the game, something along the lines of Halo Infinite's customs would, IMO, be very cool to see with the sandbox the game offers. I've said it before, but this game always felt to me like it was begging for custom maps and it's a shame that it didn't come in the era where they were commonplace, and community-driven more casual modes are the sort of things that are nice for onboarding, IMO.
I really hope this game comes to mac os. Been playing on geforce now and it sucks. Miss gaming on my pc, but switched to mac recently.
Kyoto needs a rework to be a more functional map.
Love the fan ring! Ding ding ding ding ding!! Love it!

delete light?
skillless???
brainless????
BARELY NEEDS ANY INPUT TO WORK???????
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT.
Have YOU TRIED playing light at higher ranks
you have BARELY any HP
you die ALL the time 24/7 to random bs happening on the map
(i am a medium main btw)
Medium barely takes any skill you only need aim
and heavy takes even less
wtf did you actually smoke while making this post cuz i want some of that tooo
add avocado grenade skin and add more sights
OH, FOR FUCK’S SAKE! EMBARK STUDIOS HAS COMPLETELY LOST THEIR FUCKING MINDS!!!!! every GODDAMN update, they take a SLEDGEHAMMER to the HEAVY CLASS, NERFING IT into the FUCKING GROUND, while handing out BUFF AFTER BUFF to the LIGHT CLASS LIKE FUCKING CANDY ON HALLOWEEN!!! are they trying to turn us into a BUNCH of FRAGILE, SPEEDY, GONZALESES? WHAT’S NEXT, HEAVIES THROWING SPONGE CAKES INSTEAD OF GRENADES, while LIGHTS GET FUCKING ION CANNONS THAT SHOOT NUCLEAR WARHEADS? THANKS A LOT EMBARK, FOR TURNING THE ARENA INTO A LIGHT CLASS THEME PARK!!
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
We need a bear trap for heavy
"glitch mines make it impossible to use dagger" - my dagger friend
Yo why does it take so long to rank up? like I fr ain’t even losing
To everyone saying Light is overpowered, you’ve probably never played past Gold.
Lights only have 150 HP, so a few bullets are enough to take them down.
They’re fast, yeah, but that speed boost is on a cooldown. They can’t just sprint around all the time.
Lights hit hard, but they die even faster. That makes their damage feel less threatening in actual fights.
And don’t forget:
- Mediums and Heavies can two-shot a Light easily, and sometimes Mediums can even one-shot them.
- Lights can’t one-shot any other class except other Lights.
So before you say Light is OP, take a second to think about how the class really works. If you’re struggling, maybe it’s not the class it’s just a skill issue.
❌
Lights can "effectively" 1-shot mediums and heavies with double barrel. They can pop off both barrels pretty much simultaneously, and it happens so often in this game it's disgustingly hilarious that you'd say it's not possible.
Additionally, while yes, the light weapons are not capable of truly "one hitting" mediums or heavies, a lot of their weapons combined with their kit have such short TTKs they effectively feel like/act like one-shots. I cannot COUNT how many times a light has unloaded an m11/DB/xp54 into me and killed me before I could even react to their presence
BTW is anyone else having an issue with the "play 3 matches of world tour or bank it" contract in the Iseul-T cup? It's not tracking for me.
Everything you said is true but you are not taking into account that the light class is designed as a CARTOON type character. The movements and weapons are stupid and have no place in a FPS game. Invisibility, dash, stun, infinite throwing knives that never require anything resembling a reload, etc... The light class does not belong in any FPS game the way Embark has designed them. The classes should have minor differences in them, not the extremely noticeable differences currently in place. Either fully redesign the light class or get rid of it.
Matchmaking and anti-cheat are at an all time low... its no fun being literally lasered in WT.
Put the sweaty players in their own server somewhere far away from us casuals..
Not everyone plays or cares about RANKED. Lights are quite powerful and downright annoying in other modes. Stop balancing for the top 5% of players and start balancing around the majority of your player base. The casuals.
Part 2 of demonstrating how poor the objective marker system is upon respawn.
When initially zoomed in there seems to be about a 150 degree cone for which it will deem appropriate to represent, even though it can of course thus be wildly misleading.
This can be highly detrimental when deciding which of multiple paths to take, where to place your zipline, etc.
I have witnessed newer players take the ‘wrong’ path countless times, no doubt in part because of this. The decreased likelihood of entire teams following the same route is a notable flaw.
Part 3: #👂┇game-feedback message
But if lights are fine when matchmaking is actually good then the issue here isn't lights it's bad matchmaking. Just play ranked as if it were casual, don't outright not care about winning and don't try but just play ranked as if it were your normal game mode. The game gets soooooo much better when you don't have someone 5-6x better than you just fucking around killing everything to feel better about themselves.
If some of you'd actually pay attention to the game updates instead of ignoring them, you would've noticed the damage buff between season 3 and 4 it was a big difference, made a mistake season 3 into 4 apologies
Ranked system has been trash since s3 IMO
Classic Embark moment
If any devs see this, go check out arddrake’s video he posted two days ago about “game health”
assuming the light with the double barrel is in the perfect position to land both shots and do full damage, it still takes like 3/4 of a second to shoot both shots. the lewis gun and m60 can kill a light in about the same amount of time, so can the akm, famas and potentially the model. all of these guns also massively outrange the double barrel
@stone halo the dagger can one shot mediums on a backstab and "one shot" heavies if you throw an instant quick melee in after the backstab
So "Play 3 matches of World Tour or Bank It" is bugged for me. I've played two matches and neither of them counted. Anybody else having this issue? It's always something with these contracts.
Another day, #👂┇game-feedback still thinking the objectively weakest class in the game is overpowered and/or needs nerfs because of players that…
- Don’t know how to play the game in general
- Don’t know how to counter Light
- Refuse to learn how to play the game and/or how to counter Light
- Think arbitrary, vague, subjective, loose criticisms like “unfun” or “annoying” are enough reason solely and exclusively by themselves to nerf or rework something that isn’t overpowered (as if you can’t find people that would call something in the game unfun/annoying/etc for literally every single thing in the game)
but lights CAN one shot medium (Dagger backstab)
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Sooo why cant i use mouse on ps 4 ???? 🙂
why are the graphic settings set on high :))))))))))
"you will not be penalized as a teammate has already left the match"
looks inside
leaving penalty
@vestal prairie yeah, i lag out a bunch and get no progression because the same UE crash thats been appearing since S3 still hasnt been fixed
ive redownloaded, gpu redirect, reverified, etc
i swear you make more sense talking in this channel than in #⚡┇the-finals-chat
People saying light is fine obviously haven't had to verse 6 of them in a match like I do on a daily basis. Ranked is not the only game mode.
@surreal meadow You also lose RS if you DC and reconnect on the last round as well
Insane amount of cheaters in WT on EU. Unplayable
Being double or triple teamed is normal in pvp games 😐
And most of the people complaining about light being op literally doesn't know how to play this game, you either choose a close range or short range weapon, you can be shit brain and not study the player
Make it so charge and slam does zero damage, still has knock back and destruction, but the heavy takes zero damage while doing it.
NERF. THE. FAMAS. NOW. It is WAY TOO ACCURATE to be melting lights in < 3 shots
@unreal fossil No, this is just false. It still performs very well at close range. Not against heavies obviously but you dont need to hit many shots to kill a light.
How
One of the contracts for the blue Iseul-T pistol is to play 3 rounds of Bank It or World Tour. It is insanely rare to find any match of those in a server in South America. I have NEVER been able to find a World Tour match, and the last time I was able to play Bank It was in season 1. Please add an alternative completion for it because it feels like the few South Americans playing are being punished for being few.
Yes, I agree. He put down some interesting points, like if embark fixes some of the “issues” the game could be good to go for an actual esports!
"they take a sledgehammer to the heavy class"
look at patch notes
heavy has only received buffs since s5 first came out
Would 5v5 cash out work?
No. The FAMAS had been the underdog since its release. It only shines now because the FCAR and AKM have both been tuned down. If anything, the FCAR needs a slight buff. The FAMAS is a bit like Light's LH1. Very good at a distance but not the ideal gun for up close fights.
@wispy ivy you can't convince me that a well played DB is easy to counter. Sure, it's only effective at point blank range. But if you adapt your playstyle and use the tools Light class has, it's not that difficult.
Give us medieval armor
Give us equipment experience breakdown (what is required to earn exp)
Give us customizeable sights (Change the color or shape of red dots)
❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ so bad take
Give us the ability to turn off the visibility of our own club tags
I want to join my friends club but I don't like the look of the tag on my name all the time and they chose a terrible tag but don't tell them I said that
New gamemode rulelist:
- Dont replace ranked
- Dont replace existing gamemode
Yes, but own gamemode as some like 5v5, some like 3v3v3v3
Id love to see a new cash variant in 5v5 - perfect for 5 stacks who want to do QC/WT, and perfect for those who want 2 team cash, similar to Final Round
@granite agate jarvis, pull up his standardized testing scores
Whereas poor pike, supposed to be the medium version of lh1, was nerfed into the center of the earth because of whiny light mains
Ranked powershift you say?
Make the double barrel spread more consistent. If you aim just slightly too far off center mass an entire section of bullets just doesnt exist. No other shotgun in THE FINALS has this issue.
This Is very sad 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mostly agree but I would say if there is a generalized agreement or repetitive statements about something being “unfun” or “annoying” it should prompt a conversation on why that is.
I think that light could do a lot better with some changes, since what it is now promotes “unfun” gameplay loops. For example, you may kill a light 5 times without much issue, but the 6th time, you could be dead before you could react, this leaves two players in a potentially “unfun” situation. The light’s “unfun” part is dying 5 times, while the mediums is dying before they could possibly react.
please fix these east coast servers bro why the fuck so i have to play through this lag, stable internet I got fiber why upload and download speeds are stupid fast and im rubber banding in the game, no other game has this issue fix the server already please.
What?? WHAT???? What did you even just say? That makes no sense at all. Lights are supposed to be fast, and in the scenario you just said the medium has destroyed the light 5 times and hes complaining about dying once? You just proved his point
Plug meta is such a joke. Went from last place to second place just by plugging the two last vaults. That shouldn’t even be a thing.
Same in Oceania and have never been able to play World Tour. Only option would be to go to an EU/US server i guess but can’t be bothered.
The Double barrel is the only part of light that i would agree should get a nerf
@night glen The Finals is set in a game show
Heavy class is also a cartoon character cuz yk they can scream and run through walls
Invisibility isnt Cartoon thats a classic Halo Reach ability
Dashing also isnt new?
Throwing knives are NOT op
lightclass and heavy by your definition both do not belong in a FPS game
we just need CSGO guys with grenades as abilites yes
@viral fern Casual players dont help a game long term tho
you need a competetive scene to sustain a game
If someone afk long enough to be kicked from the game, make them quit not disconnected. I shouldn't have to waste 10 mins cause someone else didn't wanna play anymore
21 challenges for a weapon skin and I will probably be able to manage 20 of them. But I can't get the reward because of something no one in the region can control. I don't have good enough Internet to change server region when I already get shot behind cover as is.
@dunlewey#0000 upscale what? It is all blurry low quality on epic settings Why is everything low quality blurred on epic?
Quick cash was better before the recent changes (imo)
Nerf the block area on your stupid ass double swords on the medium I was right on top of one and he wasn't looking at me just blocking and he was still deflecting my bullets back at me guess mediums are just fucking jedi now
Yep
game keeps resetting our settings. any way to stop that? or fix that bug? super annoying
Have you noticed in the range how on heavy it's 3 shots to headshot heavy but two on body
I know double barrel is powerful but this needs adjustment
Shouldn't be 3 shots to head on heavy and 2 on body
@rugged temple actually I'm not, if you'd actually go to the range yourself and see what I mean with the double barrel you'd know instead of this stupid comment,
Cool hypothetical: allow multiple team members to steal the cash out speeding up the process by little percentage?
That would be insane
Shotguns don't have a headshot multi. You're just missing pellets when you go for headshots.
I HAVE QUESTION FOR DEVELOPERS. 690 S RESPAWN? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? FIX YOUR GAME FINALLY!!!??? 🤬
Dear Embark. Please add 1 more loadout so we can have 3 of each. Yes I have OCD but noone can really disagree with this. And while you're at it The Finals has pretty freaking awesome customisation in that a single skin is actually like 5 items. Hands legs etc so there's an unlimited way to customise your dude so a new tab in the skin screen where we can save like 20 custom outfits would be amazing! Thanks for all you do Embark yall are the GOATs 🐐
good evening, I would like to ask you a question I started word tour mode last season, I like the semi try hard mod a lot, it changes from the ranked of other full try hard games, we can play chill in wt, but since this new season people try hard in each lobby, I often see top 500 come ******* everyone, emerald players, or full diamond badges, what I mean is that wt becomes like the other try hard mod, I'm not a pro who wins every game, but after a day of work I liked going to wt to play without try hard but at a good level, but currently it's difficult to play a good game
Asking for the 6th time embark - add multiplayer practice range: join practice range map with party members if you are in a party, or make a practice range game mode in private match. Also perhaps make practice range a little larger.
Fix spawning system - it’s really annoying to get wiped by a team and then they get stalled enough so that you have time for one final push but then you spawn on the opposite side of the map 300m away and have no choice but to give up.
Light needs m11 and stun nerfed and maybe lh1. Heavy needs charge and slam nerfed. Medium needs model nerfed and maybe rework turret(im not saying it needs a nerf it is just really really annoying)
Make quick melee a last resort - it’s annoying as shit to have a light dash straight at you after third partying and then press v and do an insta finisher. I feel like quick melee should do 20 dmg at most. I feel like it should be a last ditch effort to get that final hit on an enemy instead of just a free way to get in extra dmg if you are close.
no the other guy is right, shotguns dont do headshot damage youre just missing pellets when you shoot the head
Love losing rank points because the game is broken.
Ik I'm dumb but I don't wanna go on a statistics review on how small a light users brain is
Rinse wash and repeat 🙏
holy hell your take is so wrong that it confuses me to think you are right
I WANT TO HEAR THE ANNOUNCER
insults another persons intelligence
posts clip of missing bullets on the shot to the head and complains about how the shotgun with no headshot multiplier does less damage to the head (hitting less pellets) than to the body (hitting all pellets)
clearly youre right and the other person is wrong
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
the spawns on Kyoto Power Shift feel terrible now, I don't understand why they were changed to begin with to put one team at a time disadvantage from the start
200 second respawn?
I like this. Would make dome shield even more meta lmao
I Q'ed into Tokyo 10 times in a row now, just wow.
me and my friends queued into kyoto for the 5th time in a row on power shift, not even exaggerating
Is anyone is just fed up with the amount of cheaters on ranked this season it is genuinely ridiculous with the included problems that is our rank score system
Leavers need harsher penalties, and yeah, I agree Solo
I’ve seen like one cheater this entire season so far
heavily fw this
akm should be nerfed 🔥 🗣️
Wouldnt work unless either the timer gets increased of 1 teammate dying resets the progress
This game is being held together with duct tape.
It has bad balance, bad netcode, bad meta can the devs do something
If theres any dumb thing you guys should add, is a Best play cam
Nobody likes when narrators talk about random streamers, just do a best play to showcase someone in their match
i think after all the emrald weapons are done we should pick another month stone to make the new weapon like sapphire amethyst something like that would be dope
i also have a suggestion which is why I joined the discord. I just got the raygun skin for the V9S which has the 50s atom/spacepunk vibe to it but noticed there are no skins for characters to match it. id recommend developing a skin for it which would definitely match with the raygun and other alien/retro skins out there on the game, or making a bundle with gun skins included maybe. I dont mean to infringe IP's but the fallout nukacola poster with the woman and raygun could be a good template for what I mean
can we get a light medium and heavy dummy by eachother in the practice range for easy testing please UwU
Again, I ask that matchmaking gets fixed. It's getting so bad with the stacks vs all randos. You just cant solo at all in this game unless you can carry a team alone. Also, fix your refill function please. One guy left within 5 seconds and game never refilled, and getting stuck in game after game of that
nerf model please. the game was actually fun when people briefly thought ak was meta after fcar was nerfed
They are doing something, they're adding more crap to the game stretching the balance team so thin they couldn't make a blanket for a hamster and wondering why the game is dropping players
RIP balance team (His name is Bartholomew he’s an actual hamster and doesnt speak English)
BRING BACK SOLO BANK IT
world tour needs to be career lvl locked at 32 and ranked at 64. prevents smurfing and boosting on alt accounts. also gives players enough time to understand loadout composition and teamwork/gameplay
Dayum 32 high and 64 insane
does lasagna have a job? streams 10 hours a day
Can't wait for the measly 1k rank score compensation at the end of the season for dealing with all the hackers again
Nerf dome shield
for the love of god, fix the tournament matchmaking. literally got a lvl5 newbie as teammate and facing a (at least one since he shows his badges on the player card but i bet u theres more) past seasons emerald and ruby player dominating in the match. im not ruby and emerald either yet im constantly getting those players as enemies as well. so fix it, at the very least, fix this for this lvl5 newbie, and stop wondering if it was the store stuff or variety of the different playstyle or whatever else, FIX THIS MATCHMAKING FIRST
That will just make it 10x more annoying so no thank you
Dont nerf Famas, LH1 etc
Fcar : 23 dmg, 24 bullets
XP : 17 dmg, 32 bullets
M60: +1 dmg
So many things wrong with the game and what does embark do? Store update lmfao
Either kill M11 damage, fire rate, mag capacity or reload speed. At LEAST one of them.
@copper vapor Let me guess, either you play M11 or you play heavy
can you remove the namatama saying bye bye when quitting the game, it's annoying
M11 doesn't need a nerf. It's not even remotely close to overtuned, let alone overpowered. Annoying =/= Imbalanced.
but its sooo annoying to be sprayed down
I don't understand how the FAMAS is "not the ideal gun for close fights" it has a better TTK than the FCAR and AKM in almost every situation and range, has a MUCH tighter hipfire spread than either of those guns, and much less recoil than either of those guns either. Hell, the only bullet-based gun the Medium has that has a tighter hipfire spread than the FAMAS is the Revolver. It actually has a tighter hipfire spread than the XP-54 has. I'd argue the FAMAS is basically second or third place in every category. Which doesn't sound amazing when you first think about it, but when you realize that it has absolutely 0 weaknesses and is almost as good as guns that are only good at one thing you realize it needs a nerf. Sure it's worse at long range than the LH1 but better at medium and close than the LH1 by a good amount. Sure it's worse at close range than the M11 or Double Barrel, but it always beats them at medium to long range. And I would argue that it is the best medium range weapon in the game right now. The FAMAS has no downsides, which is fine but you can't have no downsides and ALSO just be nearly the best in every category. The AKM right now I would argue is the perfect "Jack of all Trades, Master of None" where as the FAMAS is "Jack of all Trades, and also best at a few other things". It's oppressive as all hell and needs some tweaking, just like the LH1 needs some tweaking.
Gravity Vortex does not work as intended for defending cashout boxes half the time. Its extremely visible and easy to spot so often its shot. This is just a common downside of the gadget which I can live with. My issue is that if it isn't shot theres a 80% chance it works completely fine and prevents the cashout stealer from stealing but on frequent occasion the cashout box just moves up gently allowing the stealing player to track it easily. It almost feels like this gadget is a joke. Light players did not get a weapon and both classes received a completely viable comp weapon that allows for new gameplay options. You also recently nerfed this gadget further by allowing charge and slam to just ignore this gadget so if heavy is running the most effective option (which has the highest pick rate of all heavy specializations) you are unfortunately unable to use this gadget.
If we look at the gadget heavy got lockbolt. Its easy to aim and use as it travels nearly instantly upon your chosen location and locks up to 3 players (an entire team) in place with a tracker leading exactly to their location also limiting their movement so they cant escape. If that gadget was on light a class with 200 less HP people would be complaining about it being powerful like stun gun preventing their movement. Since its on heavy its a 'non-issue'
I just don't understand class favoritism in this game I feel like the only reason my favorite weight class is viable is due to deposit meta and with over half the community complaining about how unfair it is I don't imagine the deposit bonus's are gonna stay as they are for long. Please look into class viability and gadget effectiveness. Why does heavys stun gun counterpart (the rocket launcher) just work more effectively dealing 100 dmg while being far easier to aim and use without a range limit whereas stun gun on the same cooldown doesn't deal any dmg and still is easily countered by not panicking turning around and murdering the player while they dont have their weapon out or even more simply PLAYING WITH YOUR TEAM.
I by no means think light should be easy and free but when I have to work 3x as hard to deal the same effectiveness as my heavy who has been spamming charge and slam all match a specilization with no charge up and 0 pre warning as to the heavy now dealing my entire healthbar within 6 meters it just feels like my invis isnt as good. I can hide all match but if I get caught once I die. If I catch a heavy he has 4 second chances including a 350 healthbar he can place at his feet (dome shield) a 1k barrier he can place instantly, a rocket launcher that takes over 2/3s of my health instantly turning the tides of the fight, or even his charge and panic button that often wins far more fights than it should.
Or maybe we could bring up medium having the model vs light having the m24 matter and the stats just dont add up. Med can 2 shot me but I have to barrel stuff them in hopes of doing the same and often I get shit on because theres no counter play as the weapon just has more range. My favorite loadout is useless what do I do ive been supporting since beta.
I'll be honest, whenever I want to increase my odds of winning (i.e. final round against a good team), I usually pick the FAMAS, unless another weapon is better suited for the map/variant/team comp. I cannot say that I disagree with you that it's a very good/reliable gun in most, but not all scenarios. I still find it harder to use at close range than the AKM/FCAR/Model, despite the tight hipfire accuracy you rightfully mentioned, due to it being a 3-round burst. It took me some time to get the hang of it, and I can still miss 1/3rd of my shots against Lights specifically.
I've been playing with the FAMAS on and off since its release, the successive buffs and red dot sights did make it way easier to handle, again I can't deny it. It can be an oppressive laser beam at mid range when you outposition enemy players and have a clear shot at them. But, I don't feel like the AKM underperforms in most scenarios either, despite its ammo count nerf. I do have that feeling with the FCAR however.
The FAMAS may need tweaking to raise its skill floor, why not, as long as it's not a dumb damage nerf like we've seen before on other weapons. Generally speaking, I think nerfing anything that works to the ground makes the game less fun.
Man, I wish there were kill cams. It’d be so useful to tell if the person you died to was cheating or not, and could help you as a player know what mistakes you made.
To be fair I’m really surprised that we don’t have kill cams yet 🤔
The light matter shouldn't do more damage than the sledge light attack
this game is a home run! tehehe
if you choose the "light" class in any videogame you're choosing better speed / movement with the intent of having less health and doing the least damage because you move so fast. how does it make any sense light has the best and the most broken guns in the game and get the least nerfs.
Remove Low Grav
Good arguement, unfortunately, ranged burst fire weapon is a weakness
Fix this god awful audio stuttering
If you're on pc, you need to delete the config files and change them next time you log in.
I believe you need to go to hold the windows key and R at the same time and type appdata into the prompt.
You then need to navigate to local > discovery > saved > config > windows client
Then you delete the game config folder and your settings will be FULLY reset, you just have to change them one last time!
Did they remove VRs gain from daily? if so they should add it back-
this game could use some more vitual currencies
that was for like 2 weeks 💀
So what weapons on light class do you believe deal more damage? What you are asking for is currently the case on the light class with a few outliers with unique weapons which is the case on all classes. M26 matter deals less dmg than Model, Cerberus, and the heavy burst shotgun. Lights XP deals less ttk than most of meds rifles and heavies rifle, even the M11 has less dps than heavy rifle and meds fcar/famas with more ammo for a more consistent kill. Dagger/sword are far worse than heavies sledge, Sniper and bow are unique cases where both classes don't have comparable options. The only weapons that this might be true for are both the throwing knives and the light burst pistol. Did you have particular examples?
Wrong. Glass cannons are supposed to be the most mobile and output an explosive amount of damage in a short period of time because they have the least HP. Characters with more HP are supposed to be less mobile and output less explosive damage because they have more HP.
A glass cannon that can't reach their intended location dies before they make it to their destination. Thus, they need mobility. A character with a lot of HP doesn't need mobility, because even if they get damaged on the way to their destination, they'll still have health to spare.
A glass cannon that can't output major damage in a short period of time will die before they can output enough damage to kill their enemies. Thus, they need the ability to burst down HP fast. A character with a lot of HP doesn't need to output major damage in a short period of time. They'll make up for it by dealing less damage tit-for-tat, but continuing to output damage for much longer than the glass cannon can, because unlike the glass cannon, they can still keep fighting even if they take more damage than a glass cannon can.
None of Light's guns are even remotely arguable as overpowered with the sole exception of the LH1 post-5.0.0. Embark themselves literally officially explicitly stated Light was objectively the worst class in the game. This also hasn't stopped Light from being continually nerfed anyways because players that don't know how to play the game or counter Light continue to whine anyways and constantly demand Embark to nerf the class that's already the weakest of the three even further.
Allow us to earn any emerald guns cause nobody was even playing the finals in season 3
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
Anybody notice the fast tracked iseult contracts from season 4 were reset to the full normal amount of fans needed
Thing with light is on paper (ttk's, raw damage numbers etc.) it looks horrid, but the strength in light lies in its capabilities regarding positioning. If you can always build up to shooting first with say a ~0.2s-0.5s advantage in damage dealt you're probably outgunning your opponent. Yes if you and your enemy started blasting the exact same millisecond they'd outgun you (you as in you playing light
) 90% of the time, but good lights can pick their fights and gain the advantage that way.
As a new player, my biggest feedback is that the damage in the game feels inconsistent. Sometimes it feels like my shots barely make an impact, while other times they seem to actually do what they should. It doesn't seem specific to a game, like "oh this game is laggy", it seems more player specific. Like some guys just seem to eat shots.
I agree, nerfing things to unusable status is angering. And for the FAMAS I'd say my main issue besides it's lack of weaknesses is the interesting damage model it currently has vs Lights. For those unaware, if you hit two bursts on a light and a single round of the 6 fired is a headshot then the TTK is nearly halved. There isn't another gun that really has this good of a damage model. Like, the FCAR takes the same number of body shots on a light to get a kill, but it's TTK doesn't suddenly get cut in half because your recoil helped you get a single lucky headshot. If I were to nerf the FAMAS it would just be removing one point of damage and increase the base hipfire spread a bit to be more inline with the other AR's the medium has. Still the same number of body shots to kill a light or a medium, but now you need 2 headshots out of 6 rounds to get that mythical 0.42 second TTK.
@dusky apex Solid counter argument
@umbral swift While I don't think that the M11 is overpowered per say right now, it is waaaaaay too easy to use. Sure in high rank play it needs that 0.90 TTK on mediums since an accurate Medium completely desecrates lights right now. But in lower brackets it feels too rippy at the moment for players who aren't laser beams. It feels bad to new players and that needs to be addressed even if in high tier it is balanced. I think overall the TTK in the game is a hair too fast to feel good for players in gold bracket and below. I think, optimally, the only light weapons that should be killing mediums in under a second should be the DB. BUT at the same time, I think pretty much every medium AR kills lights way too fast to be balanced at higher tiers of play. I think increasing the TTK in general just a bit on the "meta" weapons would be good.
wrong. 🤓 ☝️ you spend more time typing in a discord than actually playing the game. its obvious u have no friends stop responding to me.
Na you wrong I read your message abt lights I’m a medium and I disagree
Wow not only are you a whiny idiot, you're a rude whiny idiot
lol, with your opinion just remove guns from light as a whole
You are genuinely mistaken get off apex legends
Hospital Chashouts and Moving platform should be removed from the final round of cashout.
This 👆. I want to run the game on high again and not lag massively in every gunfight. Not to mention, the first game of each session my friend gets kicked every single time without fail. This started only in season 4. It's the only game we play where he gets kicked at the beginning of the first match every time and it's stupid. S2 was so much more fun even without all of the new content.
Light loses nearly every ttk trade in the game. “Most damage” yes, but not really
what the actual fuck?
Bring back old team assignments in the casual queue. Currently in the gamemodes shown the only teams will be assigned:
Power Shift
-Kingfish
-Shock & Awe
Quick Cash
-Kingfish
-Shock & Awe
-Steamrollers
Bank It
-Kingfish
-Steamrollers
-Shock & Awe
-Big Splash
As it currently stands these are the only teams that can be assigned in the casual queue. If you want other teams like the Live Wires, Overdogs, Powerhouses, or the Vogues, you will need to play World Tour
These teams add a little variety so please bring them back to the casual queue
playing top 500 lobbies as low elo plat get a fucking grip on your shit matchmaking system
hi embark 
after seeing recent balance discourse I’m starting to think that maybe all classes should have a slight health increase. Like 25 or 50 points at least.
Turrets may or may not still need a health reduction with the class health buff.
can the stun gun have a longer cooldown? Or maybe a greater spread at greater velocities to make their hitscan less of a killer?
See, back in S1 I thought the stun gun was neat, a rly cool self-defense tool or something but I dunno, it rly feels kinda busted.
Can dash get a little buff pls? 
Just one, either one more dash, faster cooldown, or longer dash distance maybe.
I know my win/lose ratio is forever borked bcs of the matchmaking but for future players please improve it, I’ve gotten too many games with too many terrible players, in gameplay and behavior.
Love you. 
I think the R357 can do that to Lights as well since HS deal 148 damage. It's a near instant death. But it's way harder to hit than with a 27 rounds per mag AR for sure.
Your suggested nerfs seem OK and wouldn't break the gun.
Nerf dash with sword… so not fun to play against.
BUFF CL-40
FOR THE MILLIONTH TOME CAN WE PLEASE FUCKING NERF M11
*Increase the skill ceiling & learning curve for M11 / XP-54
Gotta love when ranked matches you with a team mate 10k lower elo than you and your other teamate makes so much sense oh and level 47
Heavy is way too good right now. I'll die on this hill
Heavies on their way to be the unequivocal best class in the game for 3/5 seasons once model stops three shotting them:
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
Hey devs, can we hide ranks and maybe names to have more competitive ranked?
Genuinely love how much effort there is in the modeling. The sticker on the hot sauce bottle looks like it’s part of the label, stuff like that is the best.
can we fix the spear right click😭
Solo queue should prioritise putting you against other solo queues or dous instead of 3 stacks
i wish to be able to play helicopter with heavy spear
Any plans for new animations with item slots? ie: grenades, flashbangs etc. Feels like you buy / "earn" new skins just for it to be the same.
make variants of weapons like a single throwing knife that fires fast, and is easier to hit.
no
Add the option to change the color of the Scopes,the dot etc,like other games pls,red is shit in some maps and i cant see it PLEASE EMBARK DO UR JOB
Add cosmetic previews so we can try multiple pieces to see how they look together without purchasing them prior
This ⤴️
Change quick cash back to the way it was
Stun gun is not in the slightest bit fun or healthy to play against, no matter if you can counter the stun or not, it does not change the fact that stun just is not fun to play against. Please, add some sort of rework that makes it slightly less bullshit, the fact that I can’t use my special after being stunned is awful, and it’s even worse that I can’t continue a cashout after being stunned. Like I can’t even restart it during its time, that’s so unbelievably stupid and unfun
im tired to change my settings everytime i get to the game... fix your game
day 7 of asking for 5v5 cashout
Bruh. Either nerf the famas or buff the damn fcar and akm
I still don't know why they removed 4 bullets from the akm
a settings saver would be pretty helpful. especially when you're switching from pc to pc( i lost my sens and cant remember what it was)
this game fell off so hard its unplayable without being insta killed by a light and they instantly respawn in quick cash now too
not fun to play what so ever, u need to gain 500 pounds and sit on the game all day just to have an ounce of luck and hope you dont get into a light only match
get rid of light class and fix the damn respawn system on quick cash
@dawn valve thanks for sharing, next time may i suggest playing something other than ranked? perchance.. enjoy the game fully and invest in a stairmaster?
@dawn valve you gave feedback and i gave my feedback to ur feedback so if ur gonna be on my lap do a trick on it at least
fix quick cash please
I second this
"ttk is the worst on light" when the m11 has 0 spread and shoots 40 bullets a second. all it takes is dashing around spraying and you're dead. prefect well balanced game
v <@&1204757006510985216> v of course
Thats only an issue for quick cash. I only play ranked so my experience is that lights are underpowered, but you play a game mode where lights don't care if they die. That's a game mode issue not a class issue.
@nova osprey I dont often say this, but thats a skill issue buddy. As a light I can still get melted after stunning people at least 30-40% of the time. Is it because I suck? Maybe. Its part of the game though, and its not going away anytime soon.
@edgy urchin Man if thats your best insult thats sad. I'm pointing something out from your critique. Its called a feedback channel not a bitch and whine channel
@edgy urchin Lmao youre the one not enjoying it you sad lump
make flash bang less spammable because i have pure white on my screen more than living team mates, i swear.
Can people please stop doing this. although u may be correct, seeing these is just annoying for the devs, the devs will go based on what they think is best for the game and trying to read through feedback while its filled with people disagreeing with others feedback just fills the channel up way too much and its unnecessary .
Please buff dual blades damage, nerf charge and slam (No instant 300 DMG please)
This might get some hate, but can you guys nerf the famas. I think it’s kinda broken against lights, especially in a close range fight. It shoots enough bullets to kill a light faster than two dub shot’s
Nerf LH1 or buff pike
how has m11 not been nerfed yet. also nerf m11
When will you add the desmatch??
GIVE US A WAY TO DISABLE TAA PLAESEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ITS RUINING THE EXPERIENCE PLAAYING THIS OTHERWISE FANTASTIC GAME
It would be such a bless if you would make the option to make weapon specific crosshairs!!!
The netplay has been harsh lately, a lot of games are filled with noreg and lag desynchronization
Please consider checking it out
Stun Gun +
Dash -
People used to spam dash without even trying to think and now they're forced to used them more carefully
Are spawns broken or something? Whatever you did in the recent update, revert it. Teams are spawning in way too fast after a team wipe, and I consistently keep getting 3rd partied while fighting another team because the 3rd team keeps getting respawned a few rooms down from our fight for some reason. It happens in almost every cash box fight in world tour now.
Nerf LH1 or buff pike
They won't. Been a big problem since s4 for me. And most likely a big problem a lot longer
Project health please 😭 bugs and crashing and server performance has been getting too bad
get better report system... i just was in game with one who was litterly standing at on place running around doing nothing no revive no help just afk basicly trolling.. moved a little not to get afk warning...
just revert the game to s2 and start from there
I cannot say how much this would be GREAT for the game
A whole season of just health of the game or making (or communicate the existance and advances) of a team dedicated to health of the game
It revived Rainbow Six, it can help The Finals
And @jagged cedar is SO wrong
yes
bring this game back to closed alpha atp 😭
Yes please
100% agree i play on ping bc i live in oce and its just really bad. almost every game there is a situation where theres a criminal no reg or we die behind walls. not just to me but to my friends in the US. its just bad and makes me not want to play the game even though ive played consistently since open beta
OCE
True even black ops 1 has it
Day two of me hoping Embark sees this:
S2 was the last time a patch dropped that didn't fuck something up or make a stupid change, all in sayin
Where is Heal grenade?