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rough storm
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How are we not calling this game The Mediums?

pulsar willow
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so real. anyway, take another RPG nerf

shadow radish
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sorry but i am not playing if i am having always mostly/only syshorison... i am out!

ancient chasm
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why did they mess with the goo gun

upper citrus
shy parcel
dusty igloo
mortal notch
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Look at the Hp/dps ratio of light and med and get back to us

minor notch
plain jacinth
pseudo breach
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4th crash in so many games. I have no idea how they keep fucking up so badly

autumn sedge
static rock
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Why my game client is not updating to new Halloween patch

broken citrus
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Where is Saudi Arabia ? I’m really really frustrated, sad and disappointed from you EMBARK

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winter vapor
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when are you guys going to nerf aim assist? the fact all you need to do is aim in the general direction and it gives you a free headshot is fucking insane.

1 free headshot with a sniper per clip, 2 free headshots with deagle, 3 free headshots with dmr.

The list continues, it shouldnt exist.

I was able to get consecutive headshots when i was piss poor on console back in the day on an arena fps where aim assist didnt exist. You werent given a participation trophy to encourage dogshit players to continue attending.

Playing with randoms, a full team of controller players against pc players, pc players will lose every time.

This SHOULD NOT ever occur, much less be a trend. In reality, without aim assist, it would be the COMPLETE opposite.

Those who use controller on PC should be forced to play with console players, they are lost and confused and still trying to find their identity as a gamer.

That is all.

unique ravine
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does embark do anything about people that refuse to play in a WT/ ranked match?

clever hawk
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FOMO is cancerous but the problems with the Alien skin extend well beyond it.

The items in the Battle Passes have previously been stated to be exclusive by Embark themselves.

You have a limited amount of time to complete them & are incentivised to structure your playtime strategically so as to optimise your use of daily/limited contracts for XP.

For those that fail to naturally complete the path towards these allegedly exclusive rewards, an option to pay the utterly extortionate price of 150 Multibucks per item is available. For 1200 Multibucks - more than the cost of the Battle Pass itself - you can purchase just 8 levels. The Battle Pass contains 96 paid levels.

To then later put some of these “exclusive” rewards not only in the store, but at a bundled (discounted!!!) price almost double that of the original Battle Pass it belonged to despite containing 11 items and not 96, as well as failing to provide prior communication & clarification, is beyond scummy.

This means you have previously incentivised and pressured players to put in either time or money for something whose exclusivity you have ultimately lied about. You have deceived players with FOMO and encouraged them to spend ridiculous amounts of money with that deception.

You’ve been largely consumer friendly up to now but this is a major red flag.

A far better system that would circumvent most FOMO would be to permanently reintroduce each Battle Pass 3-6 months after they first expire, similarly to Halo.

You could make them a little more expensive and have them award fewer Multibucks. This would provide players with timed, in-game financial, & out-of-game financial incentives to purchase the Pass at release, but still allow future players a reasonable way to access all of the cosmetic items.

crystal cave
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YO WHY WOULD YOU BRING OUT THE ALIEN SKIN????

lime lichen
dusty totem
zinc fern
# lime lichen Because of cry babies (aka some light probably asked for it)

Unfair to the people who supported during season 1, this is one complaint I can get behind. Besides kill count at this point what shows we’ve been here since day 1 (and for some others before that, CB1+2) I think you guys really messed up on this one. If the battle pass is supposed to be exclusive, let’s leave it to being exclusive thanks.

severe ledge
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add gifting

wicked mortar
bold bone
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When the LH1 got buffed up to 52 damage, as a light main, that was broken. 3 tapping other lights and having that much damage per bullet on a marksman rifle is just simply too strong for the amount of health players have in this game.

When Light had the broken version of the LH1, it was reverted within a week.

So why has Medium had the broken version of the LH1 for weeks on end? I genuinely cannot wrap my head around this.

frank gull
olive mesa
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can we please make it where you dont get defib off rip when your revived anyone else agree?

topaz smelt
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I believe bringing old BP skins back in the store is a trashy move. Recolor is better imo. No reason to buy a BP if that one particular skin i want out of all 100 items will just return later. Most the gear I rock because it's S1 exclusive or beta rewards. Poor change.

solid mica
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why are we adding map variants if we cant directly que into them ? whats the point of reworking a map if you have to q hop to get said map or just straight up not get it at all ?
also why are we so late to the punch on every balancing change its stupid yall need to lock in

quick coyote
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Damn ok I think some people are taking the hate 2 far

red arch
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they kinda do need to lock in tho

red echo
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maybe too strong but its how the gadget is lol , making the hologram shootable gonna kill the gadget , nerf pike and model and you gonna be seeing less defibs by far

fathom sky
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More Nama Tama representation, I want to see more cosmetics with that goober.

surreal meadow
alpine flame
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bro really just said "The Battle Pass is designed to be an amazing deal on the key items of a season"

but now the alien set is not a "season" item, is just an yearly "seasonal" event

in S1 it was included INTO the battle pass, not a separate purchasable set, nor it was halloween (lol)

bro cmon get a better excuse

delicate basin
daring fossil
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ok yeah im pretty sure goo gun is broken, I donno if it ever stopped the dummies before (i dont play heavy) but lots of people saying it doesn't stop players now, plus bouncing off stuff. I don't play heavy and even I think this is wack.

@mortal notch I mean, barricade surfing and goo planes were obviously not intended and I don't care if they got rid of that. (they fixed lights being able to lasso red cans in season 1). I'm pretty sure goo not stopping people was unintended because the patch notes mention goo blocking people to fall off the map will count as a kill now

@mortal notch unintended as in, it's a bug they probably weren't even aware of. AKA why it's in the game.

@mortal notch you can't grapple a red barrel, I just said that was patched in season 1, every unintended movement tech like this has been patched, the goo movement tech is no different. If I can't grapple a red barrel, a heavy shouldn't be able to fly across the map on a barricade using goo.

mortal notch
# clever hawk FOMO is cancerous but the problems with the Alien skin extend well beyond it. T...

Amazing explanation
@daring fossil it never stopped dummy’s but yes the goo dosnt count as a soild object whilst inside of ANYONE anymore meaning it dosnt stop people and u can’t barricade surf and goo gun now has no movement tech at all and is a worse goo nade
They just completely removed and entire community again

Reply:if they were unintented they should of been kept in the game
Goo gun is practically useless now and boring af to play with no tech and maybe it was idk if it’s not added back that’s just another comunity that’s gonna quit the game
Also the removal of a lot of unintended tech (that can’t be used in ranked btw it’s just fun etc) is just killing the creativity of the finals

@daring fossil I know but they most likely knew about most goo techs
Being able to qm breach charges red barrel Spider-Man grapple etc

sharp bolt
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We are literally a bad season away from destroying this game.

night vortex
smoky gust
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a few things i noticed

demat is way more see through, nice
quick melee has a new icon, nice
new voicelines, always love those

changes to even some small things like this can improve the game very noticeably, thanks embark hug_friend

pliant scroll
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If you can "fix" the sweep radius of the sledge, YOU BETTER BE PLANNING ON DOING THE SAME TO THE SWORD. (10m sweep radius is a bit much, right?) The sword should not reach an opponent from 3 body lengths away.

quick coyote
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Nerf Light's natural healing rate back to pre-Terminal Attack era. It's so dumb that I deal 149 damage, they turn around one corner and are already full health again. Literally undeserved, they don't need that.

regal cairn
odd ibex
nocturne torrent
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Bringing old battle pass skins in the shop is a diss to players who’ve purchased and played previous battle passes, it’s disregarding the time it took for players to acquire the skin

thorny lynx
upper citrus
autumn warren
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Well that’s the thing, some of it has to be exclusive ESPECIALLY the final stage of the battle pass. If someone ground on a season for something under no circumstances should you be able to buy it (black wings, weird CNS guy, samurai stuff). Only releasing one skin at a time allows for people like you to get a taste of the skins without making the players who worked for the exclusive skins feel shunted.

nimble kiln
shy parcel
jagged cedar
topaz smelt
# clever hawk FOMO is cancerous but the problems with the Alien skin extend well beyond it. T...

I agree, this is a great explanation. Red flag move by Embark indeed. I feel cheated/lied to by spending all that time during s1 ensuring I hit max level to get all rewards just like other seasons. Can't wait to just see these S1 battlepass exclusive paid rewards (and other seasons) pop up for people in the shop who hardly play... so excited.

As Squishy said below -- I will also not be looking into buying future battlepasses if this keeps up.

fading trail
languid flint
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I LOVE YOU EMBARK

sweet seal
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i like being able to see on peoples skins how long theyve been playing for - cant do that if skins arent season exclusive

sonic spoke
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afternoons got a lot more hacky

surreal meadow
simple abyss
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The heavies now choke up on the sldghe all the up to the hammer

plain wharf
rain drum
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If you want to release OG skins Just give the original owners a different variant so the original owners can stick out. you should give all the original owners a gray alien fit, I wouldn't mind that. and that would definitely fix everything.

slow void
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Can we talk about the light sword ? you can eradicate a full team in seconds ....

unique ravine
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a hot take - I don't mind them introducing previous skins

feral iron
brisk lily
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This thing with the skin being back is so dumb and I didn’t even play season one. Unfair as hell!!

young gust
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Id like a dye system at some point. Lemme dye my alien costume Blue Laughin

plush plume
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after the update people can shoot through goo when they are stuck with it at head height, it doesn't happen every time so I guess it's a bug, pls fix

warm compass
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where is rain in the game ?

main steeple
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Please just reward the people that where spending the money where there was not even enough proof of the game Having a long live. I think that we should reward the people that where supporting the game from the very begining, i think that a reskin for them, even just a diffrent colour one will make every one happyhug_friend

hearty marten
frosty totem
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Made up problems for made up lies and made up excuses

forest wasp
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I honestly don't like to criticize Embark much since I know its hard to please everyone and just because I don't like a certain change doesn't mean I have a right to be a bitch about it, but reintroducing new battle pass skins is such bullshit. Across pretty much every FPS, battle pass skins have been exclusive collectibles that are worn as a badge of pride by those who were playing and grinding during the time those skins were released. Half the reason I bought the battle pass back in the day was because I was under the assumption that these skins would eventually become more rare and show that I was a player from the beginning.

Now that you guys are just letting everyone buy these skins, every battle pass cosmetic you have ever released is greatly cheapened and made less worth obtaining. If you really wanted to bring back the alien skin, make it different in some fundamental way such as recoloring or just anything to make it distinct from the first version. As of this update, battle passes are much more boring and less worth buying since if there is a particular skin we want from it, we can simply just wait for it to be brought back in what amounts to little more than a money grab. I really hope you guys rethink doing this to other battle passes in the future.

sullen berry
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Add HUD opacity slider and HUD centering for ultra wide monitors, it’s easy to implement and so useful for oled enjoyers to avoid burn in

fiery saddle
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why the hell am i as a solo queue being matched against 3 stacks ranked jade and platinum how tf is that even fair ??!?!? there really needs to be a separate queue for solo players because ive noticed each season seems to be getting worse coming up against pre mades when im stuck with randoms wanting to play light snipers in world tour making me feel like i dont have a team at all against a pre made

dim tangle
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please do not continue on the trend of bringing back season 1 shit, this was uncalled for and unfair to the season 1 players like me, dont pull this shit again

limpid bluff
versed cloud
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The goo plane was taken from us, that's so sad. My friends and I used it to move a cash-out in progress to the other side of the map. RIP

obtuse fable
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So BP items are no longer sacred if they are just gonna get recycled into the store? Really thought embark wouldn't do this.

bitter torrent
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Can you please add more types of reticles for sights would be great or maybe different sights aswell
Also would be great for us to test sights in practice range before we grind them and didnt like them afterwads

copper elk
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nerf modelllllll

lilac pelican
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So minus all the topics about the Alien skin and such - and Oscar leaked there's a event starting tomorrow.

Why are we putting events into World Tour?
Why not have a exclusive mode/event like the Cowboy/Wild West Event? the Easter Event?

Please do not put the Halloween Event in WT.
it should be a seperate Event/mode thing to do.

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shadow glacier
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Where them beta halloween skins at? I want my skelly body paint

junior halo
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Bring back nukes

frank gull
obtuse ravine
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S1 BATTLE PASS SKINS SHOULD NOT, APPEAR AS STORE ITEMS EVER.

It removes the exclusivity of items, and you're selling stuff for absurd prices.

While the Alien skin isnt the greatest thing ever, battle pass skins should never appear as regular store items.

thorn kelp
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If we should nerf anything, do it next patch

I want to have a full month without nerfs and just buffs/fixes for weapons or utility

Support the NNN train

vernal path
placid obsidian
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I really like the new elimination system update. Now please make it to where console has keyboard and mouse support.

cedar jolt
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If you are gonna be "fixing" Sledgehammer's register hitbox then do the same with Light's Sword. The Sword has a ridiculously wide hitbox that is wide as Light's body, so they are basically not even hitting with the sword. Make it so the sword Lunge only hits in an small line so their animation doesn't lie and hits when they didn't really.
Also remove the quickmelee from being able to connect after you hit with the sword's Lunge, they don't even hit the quickmelee but still manages to connect.
If you are doing these sort of "fixes" on Sledge it is only fair that you fix all these registers on Sword that hit way beyond the size of the weapon hit.

tulip crystal
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there is so many bugs around spear on heavy, when we gona get fix on that ?

clever hawk
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FOMO is cancerous but the problems with the Alien skin extend well beyond it.

The items in the Battle Passes have previously been stated to be exclusive by Embark themselves.

You have a limited amount of time to complete them & are incentivised to structure your playtime strategically so as to optimise your use of daily/limited contracts for XP.

For those that fail to naturally complete the path towards these allegedly exclusive rewards, an option to pay the utterly extortionate price of 150 Multibucks per item is available. For 1200 Multibucks - more than the cost of the Battle Pass itself - you can purchase just 8 levels. The Battle Pass contains 96 paid levels.

To then later put some of these “exclusive” rewards not only in the store, but at a bundled (discounted!!!) price almost double that of the original Battle Pass it belonged to despite containing 11 items and not 96, as well as failing to provide prior communication & clarification, is beyond scummy.

This means you have previously incentivised and pressured players to put in either time or money for something whose exclusivity you have ultimately lied about. You have deceived players with FOMO and encouraged them to spend ridiculous amounts of money with that deception.

You’ve been largely consumer friendly up to now but this is a major red flag.

A far better system that would circumvent most FOMO would be to permanently reintroduce each Battle Pass 3-6 months after they first expire, similarly to Halo.

You could make them a little more expensive and have them award fewer Multibucks. This would provide players with timed, in-game financial, & out-of-game financial incentives to purchase the Pass at release, but still allow future players a reasonable way to access all of the cosmetic items.

quick coyote
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Now I'm actually pissed y'all are trying to say that the whole purpose of the battlepass is to get deals yet wheres all the battlepass stuff in store every single battlepass item including beta items, y'all falsely advertise exclusivity and waisted my time Embark forget fomo y'all lied to us and y'all are getting greedy

elder folio
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Goo Plane is gone.

Thank you Embark for removing the fun things in this game and keeping the unfun, UNBALANCED shit that still lingers

jolly sky
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The MGL should detonate on direct hit of a player. Reward skillshots instead of punishing them.

lime lichen
cedar wadi
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They should keep adding items from battlepasses to the stores. Wanting older cosmetics gatekept for new players is dumb.

coral turtle
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There should be an option for gifting a friend with a skin or whatever

glad ginkgo
drifting pawn
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bro when tf are we getting the white suit from beta?

teal bear
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Pike maybe needs work maybe not

The only heal beam nerf that makes sense is a role lock. Nerfing it any further will make it useless.

Same story for the defibs. Aside from maybe adjusting health on respawn. What else can you do without making it much weaker. In a game that involves revives and instant Rez will ALWAYS be strong and preferred tool.

The only model change needed are range damage needs to come down.

peak vessel
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heavy is now a bug event ... akimbo animatgion want work and shild

upper citrus
vivid axle
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fix vaults getting stuck under the sand in las vegas

old minnow
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Please make a skeleton character and make it so you can select which voice you use

fathom sky
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👽

snow widget
neat yoke
surreal meadow
bitter aspen
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they should allow us to make our own custom skins

glacial knot
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Dear Devs
Players who are used to cod for years want to change everything in the game but forget that players like me who have been playing the finals since day one have started playing the finals because it is different from the usual games like cod and co. So please dear devs Don't change the charm of the finals because some players are lost

static tusk
lilac pelican
delicate dirge
jagged vector
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I think all melee weapons need a nurf if its not the heavy with sludge hammer its lights with dash and sword or dagger and I’m tired of it, it does not make the game fun when you can’t combat that those things and mediums need either a heal beam nurf or defib nurf where when you get revived you have a cool down on your defibs

vernal swallow
smoky gust
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i rarely saw goo gun even before the change
now it cant be used to stop steals anymore, which was something that made it very useful to me

if it cant have that back, please buff it in some way

a chargeable goo destruction ball used for breaching as m2 fire would allow it to replace breaching tools and quickly tear down its own blockages if need be, adding a new dimension and usefulness to it

deep summit
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nerf model 1887

violet matrix
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Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

dense marlin
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Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

paper oak
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buff other weapons

sharp bolt
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just revert the damage to the xp54 and reduce range

quick coyote
# cedar wadi They should keep adding items from battlepasses to the stores. Wanting older cos...

Then hop on the game asap support it as fast as possible where have y'all been? I've been there since open beta bruh I missed closed beta oh well don't make a battle pass claiming it's gonna be exclusive then give it a limited time to grind and say fuck the community that's been there from the start that spent money to grind for a battlepass, a battlepass is made for exclusivity, make a disclaimer cause i want my time and stress back I could've played other games with friends, especially putting money in on seasoned one was wild no one knew where the game was going and the fact I invested money on false advertisement

crystal crescent
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Please add ranked terminal attack as an option 😢

misty jasper
west juniper
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Some of these contracts are straight booty...

slender iron
rose basin
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yo does anyone have a comprehensive list of demands that more or less talks aboutall the problems in the game people have been complaining about?

wise flame
storm inlet
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daily begging:
nerf model, nerf sword, revert xp54

merry anvil
brittle obsidian
feral shell
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Embark the alien skin isn’t a big deal. Just don’t make it a regular occurrence or clearly state bp items aren’t exclusive.

These kids just love being outraged.

prime bane
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I think if a battlepass item is going to be added to the shop we should know beforehand, that way we could instead buy that item later on instead of getting it in the battlepass for those who don't play as much. This whole non-exclusivity stuff with the battlepass is a strange take considering it's an unorthodox approach when you look at other games and also realize there's a ton of exclusive items like those from seasonal events, ranked seasons, closed/open beta, twitch, etc... Just disappointed that we were not told before, that's all. It's not something BIG, but it's almost deceptive when you advertise the battlepass as this sort of exclusive, seasonal thing.

digital sinew
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I'm ultra supportive to this game, but tbh this season is not exciting at all, skins is what u give us for Halloween ? what about a cool mode ? lets us do 1v5 bs, anything really
but just skins in the store ? smh

pliant scroll
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I agree with (and second) this:
Nerf Light's natural healing rate back to pre-Terminal Attack era. It's so dumb that I deal 149 damage, they turn around one corner and are already full health again. Literally undeserved, they don't need that.

frank gull
sullen berry
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Add HUD opacity slider and HUD centering for ultra wide monitors, it’s easy to implement and so useful for oled enjoyers to avoid burn in

deep summit
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nerf model 1887, you are braindead if you think it's a balanced weapon

Fix the audio system its so bad, stealing cashout, jump pads, footsteps, ziplines sometimes make 0 audio

unborn garnet
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I think the sponsors have been a great addition to the finals but I believe their should have been more cosmetic rewards.

blissful void
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I’m not a fan of returning old battle pass items for purchase in the store. Why? This opens up a can of worms for those items rewarded for grinding and playing at a time when other players weren’t. It’s a way to incentivize early comers and those who paid to have access to a pass. It begs the question, “What is the definition of items returning?”

Would this mean that max battle pass level items are returned?

These rewards are items for those who put in the time and effort during the time allotted for a season to earn their ranks through the pass. The items are accolades and shows of merit, competency, and tenure in the game. It gives a player little incentive to grind a pass, knowing that if they miss anything, they could just buy it later. I always respected the exclusiveness of skins that I didn’t earn. And I take a lot of pride in skins that I did earn.

Limited battle pass skins are a great way to incentivize your community to purchase the pass and rock “OG” skins while still being able to earn and rock newer cosmetics as they come out. I don’t want the only show of skill to be ranked items because then it’ll make the ranked/competitive community FOMO that much more, and it is already bad with the introduction of Ruby. Steps are being taken in the right direction with the addition of Ruby, but there needs to be some sort of balance between exclusivity, reducing fomo, and fairness in opportunity (generally with cosmetics). Despite not rocking it all that much - my alien skin was exclusive. So is the rest of my S1 and open beta gear. If these things continue to make a return, it’ll be a hard pill to swallow continuing to spend money on cosmetics or even a battle pass being that my efforts have simply gone to waste & knowing I can always revisit and buy whatever was missed. That’s corny to me. The community should have known this prior - not in the 4th battle pass. This lives in the realm of ranked terminal attack to me (a poor decision).

old minnow
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When are we getting an 1800 style suit and top hat or a steam punk skin?

abstract fog
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Why did they have to bring back the alien skin. It was the one skin I actually liked because of its rarity

digital herald
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i think you should at least give us a different skin variation for the alien for people who bought the battle pass

quick lichen
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on the progression screen, can we skip the items that are already maxed out? I want to see if I've leveled up a new gadget but I have to wait through three other weapons/gadgets that are maxed out experience first. and if I try to skip, it skips everything and just takes me to the main menu

crystal cave
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PLEASE GIVE US A BLUE SKIN VARIATION, EMBARK THIS IS TRASH BRO

vapid sand
quick coyote
# wise flame limited battlepasses are terrible

It's really not, buying exclusive rare items that show that you participated and contributed to the growth of something you supported is amazing, I find it annoying because I could've played other games with friends because they hate this game, I'm not just mad because it was a battle pass item but because they're getting insanely lazy and are quitting on the game there has been no events no content the lack of listening lately has been terrible everyone and they're grandmas grandma is asking to nerf the model yet nothing has been done. I loved this game but now it's starting to become a side project because they're making another game.

rough storm
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Model needs buff asap

cedar eagle
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Just wanna put it somewhere how thankful I am to finally get EK credit

wise falcon
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Devs should be ashamed of themselves reselling a skin that was in the battle pass. Maybe 500 MB would have been okay but 2050 is literally about 2x the cost of the actual battle pass that the alien skin came in.

quick coyote
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William Shakespeare once said, "the model is really fucking stupid, I hope Embark nerfs it"

chilly kettle
tribal orbit
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I mean at this point, why not resell my open beta pass and CB2 (They are just cosmetics lol, FOMO isn't good at all)

stable saffron
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if there isnt any cosmetic exclusivity and you can just buy it later what is the point of the battle pass or OB1 items , not cool guys

azure iron
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i feel like we should be able to use upper back accesories with the noctovantage top

sonic wigeon
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Only me or is it lagging more than usual today?

stray siren
echo urchin
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You have no idea how amazing it feels to still have a totally exclusive skin, I mean, everyone who did the season 1 BP, has it too, and I really never wear it, but man oh boy, I love it being super exclusive. I’d probably lose my mind if other people could also dress up like Elvis.

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west juniper
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A solution that would make everybody happy would be to just release recolours of previous battle pass skins. Like a black guitar with a flame on it, that would be cool. That way, the people who played back in the day can keep their exclusivity whilst players that didnt get those rewards can have something similar

violet matrix
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Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

fresh elm
frank gull
brittle obsidian
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you can ask for a refund and they'll likely give it to you. you're still a clown tho

young hamlet
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you got the alien as part of the 950mb pass, so essentially for 100 multibucks
The alien rn is like, 1200
You got a STEAL

deep summit
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nerf model 1887, its worse than the CL-40 buff, it can 3 shot a heavy, now imagine a 3 stack of model 1887. Brain dead balancing

DB is different, you have to be in their face to do it, the light is 150hp fair trade as they could die very easily to do a 2 shot, model can do it from like 15m

heavy pine
still marsh
round hornet
wind meteor
rough hinge
whole palm
daring fossil
# wind meteor agree, a yellow alien could have prevented all this chaos.

or gray.....As someone whose been around since the start and has every battle pass item, i don't really care though. I'm more chapped about the bounce pad, the alien skin just never interested me lol.

@rough hinge do you use the double-barrel? I've been maining it for months and it's not easy to hit a heavy 2 times in a row perfectly to do full damage which is required to kill them. The spread is so wide and if you miss any pellets you die

topaz smelt
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Alien skin is extremely ugly and I do not use it. But, I spent time working for all of my BP S1 skins. Seeing this skin return alongside the jump pad all in one bundle is trash.

quartz shell
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I think the fact that the alien is not exclusive is good, if you obtain a skin and then you use it it's because you like it not because it's exclusive, if you want something exclusive then the emerald, rubi and diamond skins are for you

limber spruce
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Yea I love the skyward grace wings for S1 BP and I love the exclusivity, it feels cool when you see another player who completed the first battle pass, so seeing the alien come back worries me. also with the emerald and diamond skins, I am a casual player, I don’t wanna do all that

winged hazel
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I think BP items should stay in the BP. If you’re gonna re-sell BP items then allow us to buy old BP and level it up. This bundle thing is not the correct way to go about this IMO. Seeing other S1 players through the cosmetics was a cool exclusivity thing that I loved, now that anything can just be re-sold is kind of a slap in the face to those who worked to get the S1 rewards cause newer players can just buy it now.

slender iron
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pls fix thermal vision :(
the light meta hasnt changed very much aside from cloak reworks and weapon changes but thermal vision remains useless, characters also dont glow through smoke which is weird because they completly ruins the reason for equiping thermal vision
PLEASE BRING THERMAL VISION BACK

quick coyote
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sun tsu said that

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verbal pivot
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I dont care what the event is or how much the skin gone tie in whatever they doing , battle pass skins and seasonal rewards should never return

wise falcon
weak valley
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Can we get collaterals in the finals? I want some bullet penetration

stable path
light tinsel
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Honestly Im totally fine with a majority of skins returning from battlepasses as long as its only for a limited time as it is now. However, Never and I mean NEVER add back the final battlepass skins like the samurai the ballerina and the hacker, those skins should be reserved to those who put in the time and dedication to unlock them in the season and not for people who simply have the funds to afford them. Other than that, keep up the great work embark! Oh and add a halloween event please.

fallen sinew
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there are 654 diamond players rn and 500 rubies. Shouldn't diamond be 1 step easier to achieve than ruby? does rank need a rework?

quick coyote
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I'm probably gonna stop spending money on battle passes lowkey kinda killed the vibe of buying them ngl and I bought all of them, crazy how yall are ok with this blatant greed, the alien event isnt gonna be new its just gonna be alien invasion but 24/7

tribal rampart
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Those lil platforms that go up and down, just pushed me under the map mid fight and killed me, thanks

covert yacht
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can we get a patch with model and pike nerfs like what is the issue here?

wooden shuttle
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There is no wya the recycled the alien suit that is so fucking lazy

hollow marten
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maybe dont prioritise queue times

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hexed grove
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Add back team wipe penalty to WT.

frank gull
eternal lava
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Remove sword, and dash, stun gun too. Maybe just remove light

west juniper
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5 games played, 0 progress towards the 1 mil contracts lmao, this sucks... I suck...

limpid bluff
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Putting a s1 skin in the shop without any compensation (like chroma, recolor idk) for ogs sounds insane to me. Just started this season and i'll clearly never get any bp

fossil hull
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color variants for battlepass hairs froggy_smile

wooden elm
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If we are gonna give past exclusive items to people in the future can pc players get the Playstation linking exclusive skins? Like 3+ outfits and weapons camo sets.

Edit: or just keep the exclusivity as it was, thats cool to

muted shard
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  1. If you filter the leaderboard to friends only, Steam friends dont come up, only friends you have exclusively in the game.
  2. If you have an arena carriable or cashbox in your hand, drop it, place a jumppad and try to pick the carriable up again, it regulary gets a weird momentum and the picking up process stops.
  3. On fortune stadium, there is in the middle of the map (the building with the open place in the middle) a wall, that you can just go through. Its this mesh wall below the stairs. This should probably a wall.
upper citrus
daring fossil
# wise falcon Skill issue. I have maybe 10 hours on the DB and that thing is not okay. It need...

sounds like you got lucky, 10 hours is not enough experience with the gun IMO. There is like a 0.8 second forced delay between shots, and if you dont completely dead center point blank both of your shots (gun has zero range), then you have a 3 second reload, you don't get a second chance, you're dead (unless you escape) and it's so easy when you're bumping chests with someone for them to just step through you and now they are behind you. You miss even SLIGHTLY and half the spread misses and it does like 24 damage. Literally the epitome of high risk high reward. the DB is literally the worst MELEE weapon in the game. You're not killing a heavy in basically any scenario but 1v1 if you survive long enough to get the second shot off. Might be easier with Dash or cloak (and stun), but I don't use what I consider crutch abilities (and light has most of them in the game). Sometimes the DB can be absolutely disgusting, but it's mostly up to RNG and whether or not the server is going to register your shots properly or not. I go 17-21k/4-7d with it fairly frequently, but I have to put in more work than any other build I play and do similarly with (but I have more fun). If they made it 3 shots to kill a heavy, it's TTK would be the worst in the game.

@fallen sinew ruby is just top 500 diamond players, so in reality there are 1154 diamond players and 500 of them are ruby. There's no tier changes to anything beside visual.

waxen grove
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No way they'll nerf model or pike otherwise most of the players will stop playing. So they will continue to keep mediums happy. As a heavy main i'm getting annoyed with nonstop nerfs

shadow stirrup
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dogshit matchmaking

deep summit
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  • nerf sword
  • nerf model 1887

1200+ results on 'nerf model' listen to your community embark

mossy fjord
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Happy to see the finals is moving away from toxic FOMO. To be fair it would be nice if they at least changed the color tho. I say this as someone who has all the battle pass stuff they wanted already.

cold bolt
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Oh you wanted to plant that box? Well I’m spawning the team you wiped on it so you have to fight them again

Oh no they stole your box and planted it what a shame

Oh no they spawn killed you bc they know spawns are broken and pre-aimed you 15m away on height as you spawn in front of them

Oh you wanted to defend your cashout? I'm spawning two teams 30m away from you alternating so you don't even have time to regen between fights meanwhile the other team across the map gets theirs for free

REVERT/FIX/ACKNOWLEDGE SPAWNS ISSUE AFTER THE ADJUSTMENT PLEASE EMBARK

Also on the topic of anti-FOMO, please absolutely disregard any lame ppl in here who want to feel exclusive about their in-game drip barring things like ranked skins, fuck em

prime bane
ember flower
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can we get a global killfeed please? I dont see an option for it anywhere.

wind meteor
jagged cedar
atomic delta
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saying you want less FOMO while saying that some items are incorrectly marked as being permanent is kinda stupid. remove the damn alien and dont give a crap about people crying that they dont have a fucking cosmetic that doesnt change ingame performance in the least.

manic compass
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If BP items are brought back, people complain.
If BP items aren't brought back, more people complain/are disappointed.
Playtime shouldn't affect just cosmetics, there's no reason to complain. You have it, and you got it for a lot cheaper, why do you care about exclusivitity. It isn't that deep, let people enjoy the skins they have.
And yes, this is coming from someone playing since S1, it ain't that deep. I'm happy to see this as a feature because it means more people can access the drip they want.

HOWEVER. Players should be compensated if they already have it. Just a color change for them at the very least would be something nice. Still provide some exclusivity for those who earned it.

@limpid bluff They actively said there was gonna be more halloween skins next week, which includes the confirmed LTM skins which means several cosmetics coming next week along with a gamemode designed with special rules AND changes to the map. Plus, it wasn't just the alien in the shop.

waxen rover
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Guys there's a new bug where you can't change class in the pregame 😂

willow wharf
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Does anyone else lag really bad on kyoto

dusty totem
# manic compass If BP items are brought back, people complain. If BP items aren't brought back, ...

This is why people care about exclusivity. Had this line of text not been there, no one would complain. Its very disingenous to say one thing and then do the opposite. I'm not asking for the removal of the skin as a matter of fact, I think it sets a good precedent because I am against FOMO too, but I'm not against misleading business practices. Let exclusivity remain a thing by giving former owners an exclusive recolor and keep the bundle in the shop for those who wanted the skin. It's the best compromise they can make and everyone will be happy

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graceful shuttle
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WHY DID THEY BRING BACK THE ALIEN

mellow geyser
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I think my family is done with finals. The four of us have played since the beginning. It’s just not fun. And Indont think you plan to fix it.

quick coyote
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Because they were limited timed items that people bought because they were supposed to become rare over time, kinda like cars, shoes collector items pokemon cards stamps etc, rarity makes it worth it

stable path
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make colourable cosmetics, you can select what colour the different parts are, i think this could really help people create outfits with perfect colour schemes as i have a few cosmetics that i like the look of but i want a different colour to match with my outfit

fossil hull
limpid bluff
# wind meteor not true, if model was nerfed by a slight wider spread, for lower range, I'd sti...

You can just nerf amos and reloading time. Too easy to just spam, miss 1/2 shots and still wipe teams atm

@manic compass They don't put alien in the shop to make you happy runing around with a green suit. They just do it so they can sell a skin without any work. A normal game would just create a brand new skin for this event. Greedy game recycling exclusive skins = less new skin cause why would they spend money if they don't need to. It's very strange to support that kind of practice, they don't do it to make players happy I hope you understand that ( i can't care less about this ugly skin btw )

frank gull
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the re-release should have a small difference so that the original is still unique to its time. Same concept as sneakers.

rough storm
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HELLO EMBARK PEOPLE? EVERYONE BUT THE MODEL PLAYERS ARE ASKING FOR A MODEL 1887 NERF, NOT HEAVY THANK YOU COME AGAIN.
HELLO EMBARK PEOPLE? EVERYONE BUT THE MODEL PLAYERS ARE ASKING FOR A MODEL 1887 NERF, NOT HEAVY THANK YOU COME AGAIN.
HELLO EMBARK PEOPLE? EVERYONE BUT THE MODEL PLAYERS ARE ASKING FOR A MODEL 1887 NERF, NOT HEAVY THANK YOU COME AGAIN.
HELLO EMBARK PEOPLE? EVERYONE BUT THE MODEL PLAYERS ARE ASKING FOR A MODEL 1887 NERF, NOT HEAVY THANK YOU COME AGAIN.
HELLO EMBARK PEOPLE? EVERYONE BUT THE MODEL PLAYERS ARE ASKING FOR A MODEL 1887 NERF, NOT HEAVY THANK YOU COME AGAIN.
HELLO EMBARK PEOPLE? EVERYONE BUT THE MODEL PLAYERS ARE ASKING FOR A MODEL 1887 NERF, NOT HEAVY THANK YOU COME AGAIN.
HELLO EMBARK PEOPLE? EVERYONE BUT THE MODEL PLAYERS ARE ASKING FOR A MODEL 1887 NERF, NOT HEAVY THANK YOU COME AGAIN.

hushed sand
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If you're going to adjust the sledgehammer to match its animation better, the same is needed for the riot shield and sword.

old rose
brittle obsidian
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model nerf coming season 7

upper citrus
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Please nerf the model into the ground it’s been 8 fucking months. I know Rob said something along the lines of not wanting to upset casual players so just buff other underperforming weapons at the same time. Give AKM 36 ammo back, buff fcar fall off and clean up its recoil. Just tie up the model by its hands and unload 6 million rounds into it I don’t care kill it please

mortal valve
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FOMO sucks so Embark doing this is a huge W

unreal fossil
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Some people here are overreacting IMO. It seems that you've been traumatized by other games.

I would be disappointed to see my S2 Diamond FCAR skin become a 20 bucks purchasable item, because it did require lots of efforts to climb the ranks and unlock it. (1)

BP content on the other hand ? I couldn't care less. I do enjoy character/weapon customization a lot, and I did buy and complete all BPs since S1. Still don't care. A BP is nothing more than a linear progression system, giving you an extra feeling of accomplishment by rewarding playtime with content unlocks. It's also a way to financially support your favorite F2P game. This is what I paid for first and foremost.

Calling Embark greedy over ONE BP skin re-release is kinda crazy. BPs are not particularly expansive. Buy one BP, get access to all following BPs for free, since you're getting back enough coins to do that -assuming you don't spend them elsewhere. Completing a BP is not particularly grindy either, except for the two extra pages, which are meant to be. If Embark really was greedy, they would make BPs so excruciatingly hard to complete that you'd be forced to buy level unlocks if you wanted specific content... or to quit your job, wife, kids, deprive yourself of food and sleep to play The Finals for 12 hours/day. Some games do that, this one doesn't. 90 days is more than enough if you play frequently. And if you don't... well buying a BP for a game you don't play frequently doesn't make much sense, now, does it ?

I would add that Embark offering skins either as bundles or separate items, something the community asked for in this very Discord, is further proof that they're not greedy. They could have also opted to keep all the cool content behind 20$ paywalls.

(1) Disappointed, as in, experiencing minor frustration for a minute. There are more important things in life than a skin for a virtual weapon in a video game. If it makes you that emotional, you should question yourself.

quick lichen
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bring back the livewire defib skin, i fiend for it

brave epoch
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I'm 50/50 on it. If they sold it as exclusive - they should probably stick to that. Especially if it was marketed this way. Buuuuut... more variety is nice. So, you know

daring fossil
long oxide
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BRing back old goo, why did you remove goo ship and goo mech and goo on turret moving and every other goo tech. goo is the weakest spec right now, maybe above nerfed shield, it would be nice to be able to innovate with something without it getting removed every single time. what happened to emergent gameplay or whatever. if embark wanted goo to just be a bunker spec then might as well remove it and replace it with wood planks or some shit
i finna go play like overwatch or something

echo urchin
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Make all old battle passes available for purchase and completion.

surreal meadow
weary tundra
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Why did the goo plane get removed 😡 my dissapointment is immeasurable. I unlocked the goo gun and anti-grav cube yesterday and was having a blast. Mark my word, Embark Studios, you shall feel my wrath and learn to regret your actions

steady jungle
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Nerf the throw cashboxes at contestant challenge please

dusty totem
# unreal fossil Some people here are overreacting IMO. It seems that you've been traumatized by ...

They directly stated it themselves during S1. So the items from those season should remain exclusive as such. It's fine if they want to change business practices moving foward and I'm all for it, but during S1 that was not the case.
I'm sure a lot of the people who played in the earlier betas (CB1/CB2) wouldn't like if their stuff came back as well. At least not the way it did, Embark just rereleased an old skin without even altering it in the slightest (they usually do recolors)
Its not only disingenuous but its also pretty lazy tbh they could've at least done something different for the former owners and this entire ordeal wouldn't have been a thing

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jagged vector
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I thought they fixed the glitch with sights and

next compass
vapid sand
distant sluice
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i think its pretty weird how you have exclusive skins from a battlepass, then two seasons later sell it on the store. AKA the alien stuff on the store rn. Kind of dumb.

potent solar
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you guys took a look at all possible improvements to do in the game and got rid of goo ships?

I'm sure it showed up as the #1 most oppressive thing after a 2+ week, million+ player analysis you seem to rely on...

unborn garnet
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idk why you guys are still complaining about it being in the store, its been released for hours and lots of people probably picked it back up. its too late, im sure embark will give some sort of compensation for the original owners or make some "eXcLuSiVe" variant for that skin

fickle holly
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for the kill detection, you should make it so if you are fighting a grenade launcher user and do most damage to him but he ends up killing himself with the self damage because he threw the grenade too close to himself, you get the kill, instead of suicide

torpid sky
quick coyote
# unreal fossil Some people here are overreacting IMO. It seems that you've been traumatized by ...

Crazy how it works people are upset about something they spent money they earned working and time playing to earn , get real just because you don't care doesn't mean other people don't it's the fact they aren't releasing fun content theyre giving a half assed alien invasion event that's already in the game and a previous battle pass skin to make money off of it, it's the basis of greed thats how its starts could a done a zombie skin with a zombie mode or a lights out mode where there's a flashlight attachment on the guns and you have to play cash out in the dark and stealing trigger jumpscares or ghosts or footsteps, or something fun ut all alien invasion does is lift Boxes and debri and destroy stuff every once in a while

deep summit
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  • nerf sword
  • nerf model 1887

1200+ results on 'nerf model' listen to your community embark

frank gull
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If they said it was exclusive Then went back on there word sounds like someone can sue 😂
It's not that deep to me personally, it's just the principle of the matter.
Anything not being sold in bulk holds more value due to limitation.
Sure it's just a purchase, but so are sneakers, clothes, concerts , collectables.
Treating this game like a bunch of ones & zeros that have no real value is just bad for marketing I.M.O.
&
A slap in the face to day 1's that are still supporting a game that is clearly not as fun as it used to be, but has the potential to continue to be the best FPS out.

median ocean
autumn sedge
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I feel like the alien skin thing would be fine if they had announced that BP skins have a chance to come back befirehand

delicate basin
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Exclusive skins is how you get them bitches

gritty owl
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Just want to say, I really appreciate that selected skins from old season passes are brought back to the store. Imo everyone should get the chance to get some of the cool, old skins again if they missed it (except skins that are tied to certain achievements like ranked rewards). I say that as someone who played from season 1 and got LL season passes. The pass is a steal considering what you get, especially compared to most other live service games, and can easily be completed throughout the season, even when not playing much. I really don't understand why some people are so against bringing back skins.

rain drum
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I don't think adding battle pass skins to the store is a good idea, if you want to, you should re-skin it, and put that into the store, or add it to the store and give the original owners who got it in the battle pass that re-skin version.
For example, you just make a different version of a skin, and whichever one you think the public would like more, you add to the store, and if it happens to be the original, the people who owned it before get the other version.

obtuse ravine
iron bough
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They buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the "interrupt" one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

lean tree
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Daily message NERF MODEL

onyx tiger
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game si great i really enjoy it, keep it up

rough storm
rocky atlas
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I feel like removing goo plane really wasn't necessary. It was such a niche thing, 95% of the time it's better/faster just to run to the objective than set one up. I personally only found myself in one situation where one would've made a difference. Not to mention you need to dedicate a specialization and 2 gadgets to use it. No fun allowed I guess.

misty jasper
neon kettle
verbal pivot
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Servers having problems?

smoky gust
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Please revert the goo gun changes

This game really gets to build off of cool tech, weird combos and plays
These provide a lot of fun value

This change really goes against that
I have never seen anyone complain about this tech
And yet it was a somewhat rarely applicable but cool thing to do

It was unintended, sure
But there are more than enough examples from other games keeping bugs and making them features to the benefit of the players
Please dont shoot stuff like this down, embrace it

Please change it back and let us have our fun

prime bane
upbeat tree
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White sheet ghost costume please

sullen berry
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Add HUD opacity slider and HUD centering for ultra wide monitors, it’s easy to implement and so useful for oled enjoyers to avoid burn in

pliant glade
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i have come around and decided i actually enjoy low grav. it's just that i get it spammed at times and all the other events are just a rehash of one another with debree falling from the sky. Would be cool to see more unique events added to the game spicing up casual matches. With that in mind i think potentially removing events from Ranked modes would be a good call because many people such as myself like a certain level of consistency there.

next compass
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I don't think it's bad that they bring back the old skins but they should at least change something about the skins, the color or something different because it's a bit unfair for those of us who have been playing since S1 and had to play to get the skins

minor carbon
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just played for a bit and just couldn't land my shots. eventually noticed that my crosshair is completely off center, very nice.
wanted to send a screenshot in #🔴┇media-chat but can't for some reason

jagged cedar
uneven dagger
brave epoch
surreal meadow
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**EMBARK!!

DROP __ 5v5 CASH __

AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!!! Day 47/100 👈 **

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scarlet pilot
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with no server for middle eastern player, it will never grow in the region

cold bolt
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goo plane removal is wild, it's harmless 💀

In the notes it said it can negatively impact pacing, as if the current spawn logic doesn't do that to the extreme

delicate basin
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I was sweating my balls off playing goohammer and it worked sometimes. WHY NERF BOTH, WHY!?! Also funny goo physics with buildings

brittle obsidian
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I would like for the developers to buff weapons that are widely considered to be too weak and nerf weapons that are widely considered to be too strong! happy_friend

warm cliff
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A game mode for team death match or capture the flag would be epic for this game, power shift was almost it but not quite. The game plays great but it’s annoying dealing with the boxes or the keys make this a thing please.

elder viper
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Can we all agree that they shouldn't bring back Battle pass skins? They should be rewards for OGs. (I don't even own the alien nor will I buy it as respect for the OG) PS I started playing in S2

rough storm
# misty jasper the problem is, the same ppl are complaining. more results does not mean thats r...

It's the only gun people are massively complaining about cuz it has the fastest TTK meaning it's OP.
It's the most used gun cuz it's OP and faceroll to use. That's statistics for ya.
So ye, your weapon has to be nerfed so we can all start using other weapons that arent forced up our *** any longer.
Otherwise its gonna lose a large portion of the player base that main this game and might aswell call this 'The Models'.

crisp heart
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EMBARK you should add hud safe zone NOW....... I'm done asking nicely, NO MORE MR. NICE CLUCK

broken citrus
hidden quartz
celest forum
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Team colored glitch traps are cool... BUT WHAT ABOUT HEAL BEAM STREAMS??

night glen
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I really think the devs are trying to make people be bored playing this game by making them have to run all the way across the map on respawn and then get there and have to figure out how to climb all of the HUGE pieces of building to maybe figure out how to get to the cashout. Great job making more of the game annoying.

frank gull
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I actually like this...
Plus they can turn completely white giving them a unique feature the originals don't have.
It's a win win, new players get wings & OGs can get new drip of there favorite cosmetic from there favorite game.

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spark patrol
north eagle
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invisibility and grapple get completely eclipsed by evasive dash + the help of a few gadgets

  1. general usefulness
    zipline can be used to enter a fight, exit a fight, or just move around really well, but often times 1 or 2 evasive dashes can do just as well, and still have some dashes to spare.
    invisibility is not fooling anyone to begin with. if you don't see them, you hear them. it is an okay approach, it is a surprisingly bad escape option, and obviously does not help you traverse. it can help you entirely avoid fights, but when do you want to hide in the finals?
    evasive dash can traverse very well, and on top of it is an insanely good approach and escape option. it outcompetes the other two by a mile

  2. alternatives.
    vanish bomb is not as good as invisibility, but is there when you need it, and doesn't take up that precious dash ability.
    gateway is BETTER than grapple. grapple hook, or portal? gateway is less predictable, can go through walls, your team can use it, and you can throw things through.
    what is an alternative to dash? nothing! there is no stim (although I so dearly wish there was)

it's not that dash is OP, it's that the other two are completely obsolete. dash is unique, and versatile. the other two are neither

invis needs to be a better engage/disengage, grapple needs two charges, or something that gateway doesn't have, and we need a stim because it would be so great, and it would add another option for speed, enagagment, diengagement, and chasing than the currently obvious choice of dash

misty jasper
# rough storm It's the only gun people are massively complaining about cuz it has the fastest ...

God ppl still don't get that high TTK is not the only thing that makes or breaks a weapon?

And none of that was statistics? You didn't even compare any of the TTKs and you didn't provide any stats on how many people use the model in competitive, WT, casual modes, nothing.

You call it "my weapon" when I've been maining pike and AK this season.

My opinion is that model is not op, and its only an opinion. But at least I'm not making shit up about how many people play the weapon when YOU don't know the stats. Embark has them.

You and everyone else choosing to put "nerf model" in their username are part of the religiously loud group that spams it in game feedback thinking it makes your opinion more important

remote swallow
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Anyone else's weapon and equipment skins getting unequipped on startup?

brittle cedar
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Why are people complaining about sword? @remote verge I main sword and kind of agree. But its a high risk thing and you kind of have to push enemies that are alone in order to be successful. Either that or get extremely lucky with your enemy reload or them missing. @foggy orbit Defeating sword is all about sticking with your teammates and adapting to there being a sword player. If you're in a 1v1 you should be losing to a light imo. @celest sable 100% agree. The fact that medium gets a shotgun two taps lights from 15m and a rifle that can 3 tap from basically any distance significantly hinders the light class. I just think increasing the shots to kill by one on the pike and nerfing the spread of model would go a long way. Also getting rid of the paddle invulnerability period like it was before the current "nerf" would be a step in the right direction for making fights feel more balanced. I should be able to punish people who have already died once and get revived to basically my same health. They should not have an invuln period or significantly shorten it.

remote verge
foggy orbit
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spot on, especially with sword

glad trout
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will the sponsors thing be a season 4 only thing or is it a permanent thing? If it is, then will there be eventually new sponsors to The Finals after the current sponsors have all been as a seasonal event?

celest sable
fallow idol
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Please fix site for akm it's broke

eager cipher
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Please tweak xp given to data reshaper. The progression on it is insanely slow

delicate basin
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The hammer nerf is survivable but the goo nerf is unacceptable

brittle obsidian
# misty jasper God ppl still don't get that high TTK is not the only thing that makes or breaks...

its burst damage (which is intrinsically better than sustain damage because of peak advantage)

it doesn't suffer from inaccuracy in motion/hipfire

its lenient to aim since its a cone of pellets and only requires meatshots

its unreasonably high damage per shot more than makes up for whiffing

its high range lets you think less about positioning

its a shitter weapon that's relatively easy to use and gives crazy high reward, just like patch 4.0 CL40 or dash+sword, except unlike those weapons, its waaaaaaay harder to take advantage of its weaknesses because its virtually impossible to escape/avoid a scenario where the model dominates, and the margin for error while fighting it is 1 nanometer. thats why it can actually be used in high elo, unlike CL or sword.

turbid kiln
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So to sum up the update :

  • Old limited-time exclusive skins are now no longer exclusive
  • No game mode for Halloween or skin reward like in season 1 and 2
  • A not so buff to sledge while the dual blade is still so dam bad
    Again NICE ONE EMBARK you are KILLING IT
quick coyote
shadow bane
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When using the dematerializer, it doesnt rematerialize when I right click on pc. Any idea why it wouldnt be working?

carmine token
#

Another patch and more performance degradation. Now, the game keeps inconsistenly crashing my GPU, forcing a reset on the entire PC. I think it's a voltage spike or memory instability, not exactly sure but it never happened before in this game (or any game, really, aside for FFXIV when my GPU was OVERclocked) until JUST NOW. Had to undervolt my GPU using CoreCtrl, which your game has in the past detected as a cheat tool and blocked me from playing until I closed the program down.
So thanks guys, great fucking job.

neat yoke
frank gull
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Please add Ruby skin to shop my skill issue has given me SOOO much anxiety I've even lost sleep.
I can't stand the FOMO.
If I can get 500 people to agree I hope you will consider Embark. 🙏🏽👀

jagged cedar
surreal meadow
deep summit
#
  • Fix spawns, you wipe a team in the first fight then they spawn on the cashout so you have to fight them again before depositing
  • Nerf sword
  • Nerf model 1887
red arch
#

fcar buff :((

rough storm
# misty jasper God ppl still don't get that high TTK is not the only thing that makes or breaks...

You literally post vids of 'my model gameplay' so nuf said there.
There's a website that lists all TTK's hope that's enough statistics for ya.
And you say i don't own statistics but i don't need any if literally EVERY game i play has a majority of players using the model. 1 on 2 finals i play is tripple medium and 4/5 finals i play has at least 1 model user in it, some 2. That's both ranked and WT. If you do some quick maths you can make the statistics yourself. Or are you gonna claim it's all coincidence and only I play vs so many models?
Looking at all the randoms, my whole friends list and all the people in here asking for a model nerf apparantly not.
That plus me playing the model myself and getting 15+ kills every match cuz it's that faceroll makes my comment in my opinion very objective.

All YOU do is come here and claim it's not OP without any arguments but 'trust me it's not.'
You have your opinion and i have mine. Only mine is based on literal facts and i'm objective enough to see problems as they generally are. The only players that can kill me are sword, dagger, hammer and Model users. But i can honoustly say these other 3 weapons have a higher skill ceiling and played better than me on that moment.

Models on the other hand just come in after a fight and one hit everyone that's still standing without needing any skill but waiting every fight out etc, there's so many examples of it being overpowered i could write a whole essay about it, but in short it ruins the tactics of the whole cashout gameplay by hard third partying and hard backuping their team which is uncounterable. Every battle you engage they just wait till you focus their teammates and than sweep in and shoot 1/2th of 1/3rd of your hp per second. That's rediculous cuz you can't hide from it.

@misty jasper I never said it's your main, i just said it's a weapon of yours. L2 read before tryna belittle someone
And all comments of yours have been refuted many times already.

misty jasper
sonic spoke
#

Happy Halloween!

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remote verge
#

whats peoples argument for nerfing sword and how to do it?

waxen citrus
#

Center... HUDS.... Please.....

lapis elbow
#

M11 is the only viable Light weapon right now. V9S change makes it uncompetitive and the XP54 is subpar compared to the M11

jagged vector
#

Does anyone else feel ranked is pretty much unplayable for someone who doesn’t eat sleep and breath this game?

turbid kiln
#

FR bringing back the goat CAPTAIN SAUCERIAN is just a way to milk the shit out an old (Season 1 EXCLUSIVE) skin without designing anything new for the game.
What's the point of a time based reward if it's no longer time based ? What's the point of playing your event if the reward will be available just in a few months ... What's even the meaning of a skin if there is no rarity ?
If you are concerned about FOMO becoming cash grabbing machine just put free event skins like you did back in season 1 and 2. Just a new random game mode melee only or any kind of shit for Halloween and everybody will be happy. But putting back old exclusive skins, that's just backstabbing your old players. The only ones who still want to stick to this game...

delicate basin
#

What hurts most about the goo removal is that is just that. 90% of its mechanics got straight up removed. Without even a mention from the devs (goo plane got mentioned but nothing else). Do you even care?

violet matrix
#

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic weapon for pathetic players

dusty totem
frank gull
random lagoon
rustic tusk
#

The M11 shouldnt allow a light to go 31 and 7. Nerf

pliant glade
young ingot
#

thanks for bringing back alien skin hug_friend and the loop de doom lewis skin is so well done very deserving of legendary

brittle obsidian
finite wagon
#

alien brothers, sisters, and all, it’s time to rise like we’ve never risen before

i’ve made the alien a core character as my heavy for close to a year and i do not mind it making a return. definitely bold to just do this so suddenly but i think this is definitely the perfect skin to try this with

i think a lot of people would be open to the entire first half of these battle passes being open to the masses. everything that gets unlocked after the second half though can be treated different (or the same, i don’t really care)

lucid shale
#

don't nerf sword just cause low rank players complain about it

listen to high rank players instead

mighty ibex
coarse dew
minor notch
celest sable
#

lights need a 1 health shield that reduces the first instance of incoming damage by 50% then goes on CD for 20-25 seconds

woven dagger
#

Like a new specialization or something. I like this idea, but maybe not being able to shoot. This way it’s balanced in the way that it gives light more health and time to react before getting blown up, while not being able to use it while shooting so it’s not like a faster ttk medium

upper spear
solemn light
analog hearth
#

the game crashes and i get a 27 minute ban for leaving the match. are you going to fix this somehow? it's unfair.

remote verge
surreal meadow
old minnow
#

Do you think the model needs to be Nerfed Take another look at the M1? It’s stronger than the dagger. It’s ridiculous. The fastest time to kill weapon in the game.

upper citrus
delicate basin
#

By ruining goo, every hammer main will go to winch claw which is an objectively more boring playstyle. PLS I bEG YOU BRING BACK OLD GOO

ripe herald
#

do not nerf model, nerf pike, nerf defib, buff FCAR, improve depth on Demat 🙏

untold haven
#

if you dont think the model needs nerfing you just do not know what you're talking about and need to stop

unreal zodiac
frosty trout
#

loss prevention and punishment for leaving need to be implemented. players leaving matches is rampant and I suffer with a loss stat and that player(s) that leaves goes unpunished. It's getting very bad. its also causes solo Queues to join in progress matches and more often than not notch a loss because they couldn't turn a game around.

frank gull
#

I want a ruby skin on every weapon & gadget Embark 👀
Feel free to set the price.
Because honestly in a perfect world we should all be equally having fun, & I'm not sure how much I can personally have when people have skins I don't.
Unfair. froggy_sad_S

dusty totem
fallen sinew
#

I don't want to Q against the 3 of the top 5 players in the world when I'm plat 4 I don't care how long their Q time is make them wait until we all get fair matches

jagged vector
#

What did they do to goo? The I’m sorry can someone explain?

thorn kelp
#

Wait till Embark finds out about the Winch Claw + Spear yeet tech

Instead of straight up buffing spear 🤷🏾‍♂️

sacred isle
coarse jetty
#

delete winch claw 🗣️

mossy cape
#

revert xp54, v9s, fcar

violet matrix
#

It is quite noticeable that the game is abandoned, they do not create new game modes to capture the attention of new players and vary the gameplay and they do not work on balancing the weapons, it had become my favorite shooter game, but I will also stop playing as many have done because it has become boring and unbalanced.

wooden summit
#

Pumpkin pyro skin?

woven dagger
iron berry
# mossy cape revert xp54, v9s, fcar

don't revert xp v9s and fcar, its a breath of fresh air not seeing xp every single game, v9s is fine as is, and fcar is also fine as is, i don't see any issues with them fr

finally seeing some variety in light class

xp imo i don't think needs a range nerf and thats all, the problem wasn't even that it was being used from a far, yes its not good that its good in all aspects, but its not used that far that often, the problems i see with it is its just too good of a weapon, it was the light meta, nothing else was chosen for light other than xp

upper citrus
narrow spade
unreal fossil
misty wolf
echo radish
#

GaMe iS DeAd

dusty totem
#

game is bread 🍞

jagged vector
#

Fixed the spawn my ass, still am spawning 200m away

analog hearth
#

nerf sword+dash

minor notch
#

game is thread 🧵

keen heath
#

MGL32 should have proximity explosions, weapon feels bad in almost every situation

polar grotto
#

buff the dual blades

frank gull
tough merlin
# iron berry don't revert xp v9s and fcar, its a breath of fresh air not seeing xp every sing...

Honestly all the light guns feel fine, Not sure how tks are after the nerf, or how dagger is feeling but other wise things feel fine imo

@unreal fossil its not a generic comment he listed reason such as a lack of new game modes which... is true there hasn't been, last one was s2, and a lack of balancing patches which is... also true comparing s1/s2 to s3/s4.

As for it being abandon that's an opinion i suppose but he didn't say it was dead >.>

delicate basin
#

can we at least get some kind of explanation on why goo was gutted? If it is just to remove goo planes. PLS add the other mechanics back in like blocking bullets if people are inside the goo.

broken citrus
#

Hahahaha!

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cunning mulch
#

They should have gone the Halo MCC and Halo Infinite route (before they cancelled traditional seasons), where all battle passes are available for purchase forever and you choose which to progress. Just make the bonus rewards timed exclusive to the season. Best of both worlds for newcomers and dedicated players.
From r/finals subreddit @bitter nexus @true epoch

winter scroll
#

I personally think that bringing back old rewards is a great way to bring in new players and allow people to use the game’s unique and amazing skins! Thanks Embark! Since my friends and I started playing only near the end of season 1, it brings hope of getting some skins from them again. We’d definitely buy them in the shop! All the plays who have issue with this can keep their ranked gun skins etc. Like the change moving forward 🙂

mighty ibex
quick coyote
surreal meadow
#

SEASON 4 TLDR:

~ Player retention is horrible (+season 3)
~ Colorblind still hasnt been fixed
~ Light still plagues low elo causing new players to leave the game (New players clearly dont like the invisible "impossible" to hit class even tho high elo literally has 0 problem with them due to having 0 HP (less dmg, +25HP, fatter hitbox - easily solves low elo "cant hit" problem, solves high elo "dies too quick")
~ You re-release FOMO skins (alien skin, why isnt it a recolor or minor tweaked - you stated it was exclusive, people are going to be more hesitant to spend money now - its not about the money its the premise)
~ 3M meta is "balanced" (3L / 3H should be on the same level and its not - also its the fact that you can defib chain with 10s back to max HP + strong CQB weapons is everyones issue, glitch the defib'd rez and/or slightly weaker CQB weapons and the problem is solved)
~ You refuse to add traditional gamemodes (TDM - its the staple of the FPS genre) - wonder why new players cant get into the game
~ You refuse to add simpler gamemodes with your flair (5v5 Cash, alleviates the new players learning curve with 2 teams only so no third partying (+fixes light not being third partied bait in high elo)) - wonder why new players cant get into the game

im a shill for this game but what the fuck embark
also you removed goo planes, who the fuck thought of that

bronze pumice
#
  • Model nerf (108 damage)
  • Pike nerf (RPM lowered)
  • Make the spear alternate attack cancellable
  • Charge & Slam nerf (50, 80, 130 instead of 130, 50, 50 and make it so you have to commit to the slam at the start)
  • revert XP-54 damage nerf and lower range
  • Mesh shield much better than start of season but could still stand to be unnerfed a tad
  • Accessibilty option which allows for tap fire and burst fire weapons to just be held down
  • Release the other variants of the hair used in the rockabilly outfit, they existed in the OB but we only got the blonde version in the battlepass back in S1
  • Would like to see sys$Horizon and Fortune Stadium eventually get some love with variants
  • Purple alien either in store or rewarded people who earnt green alien in pass 🥺
real fractal
#

Get the fucking turret out of the game already uneeded asf also braindead asf

misty wolf
grizzled cairn
#

Please also add a manual resolution scale mode for DLSS as you have now done for TAAU.

teal bear
dusty totem
# upper citrus add a purple alien too yes but it shouldnt be exclusive

Why not? They promised us an exclusive skin, and the people who wanted the alien skin got the original one, so why not? It would be the best outcome possible IMO

People are so entitled...

The whole "It's pixels on a screen" argument is so shallow too, if they're just pixels on a screen, why do you care if they were to add an exclusive reskin?

They manipulated us in the first place by saying the skins were exclusive... I'm not asking for the skins to be removed from the accounts of those who got them, I'm not asking for the bundle to be removed, I'm just asking for a reskin... Why do you care about that?

If Embark were truly anti FOMO they would've backed out on it during S1 when A LOT of players were demanding for the battle passes to stay in s2 and onwards like halo infinite

Its just unfair to say one thing and then back out on their word. But they're just pixels on a screen, why do you care so much?

upper citrus
uncut stump
#

Why do people want the model nerfed so bad lol

untold orbit
marble crane
old minnow
delicate basin
#

Can you guys at least explain why you completely ruined googun? You can't just ruin an entire play style and say "Fixed an issue where certain usage of goo could result in players bypassing collision"

shrewd oriole
#

Please buff flamethrower after burn, since it's hit registration is completely ASS

vast dove
frank gull
#

🗣️📣 Embark GREEN ALIENS & GREY ALIENS!!! Please!
For the love that is all conspiracy, right this wrong. 🙏🏽

wintry trout
#

still asking for a ping display but still won't get it because embark knows it's well over 1 second

scarlet acorn
#

Combine defibs and heal beam. Make the defibs part of the specialization so that you can make the beam disabled for a bit after using the beam. Also make it so that you can only defib with a certain percentage of your beam left (or something like that, to reduce defib spam). The biggest problem with medium right now is their INSANE defib chaining. The model is a bit OP but nowhere near as bad on its own as it is with the fact that MMM team comp is unkillable unless you take them all out nearly simultaneously. Nerf the defib (or change how it functions somehow) and there will be way more variability in the classes selected and the ways team play works, which is something that makes this game fun in the first place.

ornate sluice
#

Not a fan of you using FOMO as an excuse to resell BP skins. At least recolor them so OG players keep something.... It's not FOMO if the person wasn't even playing the game yet that season lol. Also if you ever offer my AKM from the circuit for money after making me struggle through challenges to get it I will uninstall your game in a second.

elder bear
#

PLEASE make the RPG somewhat useful.... HEAVY weapons only tickle light players but LIGHT players kill HEAVY in miliseconds? THE RPG doesnt push back enemies? A direct hit to a LIGHT player does absolutely nothing. It makes no sense. I know it's just a game but please let it at least knock back enemies or hurt them

keen heath
#

Melee weapons should not get stopped by mesh shields

normal gyro
#

Reward players for representing their sponsors

I feel as though you should get more fans if you use cosmetics or skins that represent the sponsor that you chose. For example, each cosmetic/skin you use should boost fan gain by 5% per piece, and have an upper limit of like 20% maximum.

How can you gain fans if the fans can't even see what sponsor you represent??

dapper fiber
#

Rather than bring back BP items in the store, have you guys considered a system like Deeprock Galactic's? This system allows people to select a battle pass from previous season to unlock cosmetics, but will only gain points toward that battle pass. It is widely considered one of the most user-friendly battle pass systems in the Industry.

dusty totem
#

Guys we're against FOMO... Its always been our plan!... except we weren't when you purchased that battle pass and those extra 20 levels thinking the skins would be exclusive! Oops!

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mighty ibex
#

RPG update: Add knockback to user, enemies & objects. Increase destructive power to buildings, so that C4 breaks little with a distant trigger while rpg breaks more at once. Increase knockback to loose structures.

misty wolf
wraith oak
#

EMBARK!!!!! Because you put a season 1 battle pass skin in the shop, can you please make a reskin for it for the people that played and got it in season 1, like maybe a dark blue or purple color version
Please❤️

rose vigil
#

Still lagging a bit with Intel Arc 750

prime bane
odd harbor
#

ADDING THE ALIEN SKIN TO THE SHOP I NEED A REFUND I GRINDED TO COMPLETE THE FIRST BATTLE PASS 😡😡😡

candid epoch
#

Every other game I queue I get paired with players that are level 20 or below, barely know how to play the game, while getting put up against full three stacks. Either make it so that your team is based off of level more when you solo queue, or put solo queueing players against other teams of solos

undone dagger
#

please let the gateway deploy anywhere. its annoying to get it above a moving platform and it just not deploy. It would also make environmental kills easier to get

humble cloud
#

New ability: this one is for my heavy mains I wish to drink my daily ospuze so why not let us do it in game? The ospuze drink kinda acts like a energy drink so when it’s drank it gives the heavy a running speed boost (or a quicker reload n health recovery)

fringe burrow
#

anyone else getting terrible server lag like dying behind walls, arrows hitting people and being stuck in their models, but doing no damage, and crazy lag spikes recently? used to be pretty rare but these last few matches have been terrible with it

wintry trout
rough shell
#

they need to fix the report menu. most of the time reports are done in between matches and after every transition it kicks you out of the menu. this is just bad

umbral rampart
#

The new gun skin is amazing. I have never seen a cooler skin. It blows me away the detail and just... pure fun it is. Your kills turn into people? Who ride the roller coaster? That is GENIUS.

And it makes me really, really want more carnival stuff. Outfits to go along with it. And the batwings are the perfect addition. Great works guys. I hope you had a lot of fun making them, it feels like you did. hug_friend

frank gull
elder viper
shrewd oriole
#

Someone recommended this but stun gun should be reworked into glitch darts. They deal high damage to shields and disable the users ability to uses gadgets and specializations. The stun gun will be changed similar to the tracking dart and will be a hitscan weapon. It can have more uses and an alright cooldown making it a viable option and it can glitch for the duration of whatever the stun gun lasts. Stun gun disrupts the flow of the game, is too rewarding, and not fun to play against. Changing to a more fair and balanced gadget is generally better. Please do this.

mighty ibex
# misty wolf I think it is best we ignore these kinds of responses, it is like a 3 year old c...

@misty wolf: Quit showing our disapproval about being ripped off >10€/$ by a broken promise, not being the first time being lied to straight in the face? Money is money, and I ain't paying 10 bucks for some random outfit items 98% of which I will never use. On my main skin, I only use the black wings & wedding body-paint from S1, rest is from shop. I get that FOMO is bad, but you simply can't worry about things like FOMO when there isn't even a real point of having an item shop, as it is not a shop, but much rather a display case. @humble cloud: alredy thought of it, but for light; 2 rechargable cans that can be thrown at mates to boost them instead of yourself. @umbral rampart: That gun skin definitely looks amazing, but have you seen that one skin from cod? i don't know which cod & which weapon, but there was a skin that looked like a battlefield, and when inspecting/reloading, a miniature war with tiny soldiars, tanks & planes would start. Similat to this rollercoaster skin, but waaay more detailed.

prime flower
#

balance mediums dude higher elo is basically pure mediums. it get annoying to see sniper or shotgun with heal beam and or turrets set up with a bunch of mines as they camp.
miss when heavies where useful and lights where ok

misty wolf
# prime bane That's not at all the same thing, lol. It was taken off sale, advertised as excl...

@prime bane How is it not?
I said exclusive, meaning limited and it is being resold. Please read.
Plus, I dont give a damn about it being resold. It was just $10 and I had fun with the grind or playing the game.
Just stop playing it if Monetization is really what you only care about.

@clever hawk Fomo is cancer but lets keep the FOMO. They could have change their stance so you DONT have the FOMO except the COST of the ITEM. You PAY for the Battlepass so you DONT pay the skin cost that is OVER the BP Price. This is a MASSIVE consumer friendly move and you should be for the release of items that were from the BP.

tawny oak
#

Fix the sniper rifles shots, doesnt even go where you fuckin shoot
add some server report option, the servers are dog shit then good, then dog shit through the match, some shots dont even register at all, like phantom bullets for no reason.
Add some better servers to US WEST area

@mighty ibex thats a skin from the COD Mobile game, its the Mythic MG42 skin, its very cool, they have some great skins, even like 20s long animations, like the void skin and black hole skins are dope.

prime bane
celest forum
#

Pinged thanks and my contestant said "you put the boo in boom!"
Please keep adding new voice lines like this as often as you can.
Contestant almost dies and says "not going out like that on (insert day of the week).
Give them more personality and give us a laugh.

rustic sandal
# mighty ibex RPG update: Add knockback to user, enemies & objects. Increase destructive power...

I actually recently thought about knockback on rpg and I also even thought how fun it might be to give heavy the option to rocket boost for a tiiiiiinnnyyy bit of mobility in exchange for damage taken. Ill still always maintain that rpg should have 100 damage but 2 charges forcing a reload and same CD speed it has currently. Think it works even better now that the reload animation is much longer.

analog hearth
#

nerf sword+dash

onyx crystal
quasi wyvern
#

idk what happened this season but match making has been getting worse, joined a powershift match, i was the only person on the team and the enemy team was 5 secs away from getting the platform to the end

turbid kiln
fringe burrow
#

Idk why they didnt just release a recolor of the same skin and emote and whatever, make it orange or something, why did they feel the need to just dump the same skin over. Its less about the fomo and more like its fun to see who was around when in the game. Are they gonna drop the CB/OB sets now too? They should if we are going full no fomo

unreal fossil
untold willow
#

Please add an options to save crosshair configuartion, be that in a pulldown menu or just in a code i can copy and paste 🙂

quaint forge
#

Can you guys please buff weapons rhat need to be buffed like dual blades? It’s funny how it’s supposed to be a close range weapon and I still get killed when I try to fight against the model, and the block feature is bugged cuz sometimes it feels like I can’t catch any bullets from anyone

frank gull
lilac frost
#

321 days and STILL no removal of class stacking!! 🎉

cold bolt
#

give hammer multi hit for right click since sword has it

jagged cedar
#

4.0 broke cloak

  • Scope magnification allows you to very easily see cloak
  • Standing still cloak became significantly easier to see
  • Cloak is overall easier to see now

None of these changes were mentioned in patch notes
These changes have been verified through testing and comparison to old footage
These changes were also noticed by many players prior to testing

It is possible that some of these changes (especially the scope one) is due to new 4.0 shaders fucking up cloak

lyric summit
#

Bro they needa fix the pairing system I just went up against like a whole team of emeralds when I’m not even close to that

arctic hatch
ashen stirrup
#

Has anyone else experienced any performance issues in the new patch? For me this update has brought my frame rate 30-40fps lower than 4.0.0

rocky plover
#

Honestly at this point class stacking is fine, just make it where you can't stack defibs for Medium and give the models damage falloff so we don't get half our health melted from across the map.

Honestly I rather fight triple Pikes vs triple models because of that broke range on the models

upper citrus
#

If the pike and model are nerfed then defib stacking won’t be an issue

dim tangle
#

nerf the pike again

echo urchin
#
  1. Really hoping we get way better Halloween themed gear than what they released today.
  2. They need to let us buy past battle passes and complete them later on. Any cosmetics except ones based on achievements, ranks, et cetera should be earnable later.
  3. Yeah, it’s lame that they didn’t at least recolor the alien skin when they introduced it to the shop.

All that said, some of y’all need to chill the fuck out.

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misty wolf
# mighty ibex <@181232342436806657>: Quit showing our disapproval about being ripped off >10€...

I have the right to say this cause I, too, have the damn S1 Battlepass.

@prime bane A lie.. You care so much about a "lie" that is beneficial to the player base than a lie that would be horrendous, example Apex Legends BP changes that they had to back peddle on.
Also, if the game is fun and a bp item is a minor annoyance, then this should be on your last list of complaints.

@echo urchin Im stealing that meme.

foggy moat
#

The finals needs a tdm mode asap

quick coyote
#

Has this patch actually helped or is the game still in its worst state ever

uneven dagger
prime bane
keen heath
#

Dual blades needs some love

median pawn
#

My feedbacks on things that need fixed that I've noticed:

  • 5+ stacks of people joining games, allowing for cross teams in 3v3v3 matches
  • Hammers killing by clipping through objects, without structures breaking
  • Damage inconsistency with multiple weapons
    • Some people can shoot you in the foot and instant kill you, yet you headshot and they take 1/4th damage
  • Large structure damage causes more frame drops than it used to, which makes the game laggier than past updates
  • No leave penalty: There are way too many people that will just leave after throwing, and not get scolded for doing so

And of course your standard hacks that are still problematic:

  • Thermal hacking: People seeing through smoke or people that are invis, without use of thermal
  • Wall hacking: Individuals seeing through structures, without radar
  • Fly hacking: People jumping off buildings, and flying back up before falling to death, without a grapple
  • Head locking: Aim assist

Honestly, because the game is free, I feel not many people are properly punished for hacking
If there were incentives to deter people from mass just making new accounts, it would help
(Though from a financial standpoint the battle passes do better)

Yet overwatch started going the battle-pass route, and then had an influx of hackers, so~

frank gull
# quick coyote Then hop on the game asap support it as fast as possible where have y'all been? ...

if only you knew what a Xbox player had to go through to get the skill issue set.
Happy for the community, but what a cheap trick for clout.
I share @clever hawk sentiment and agree this is a major Red Flag & 1 step closer to E.A. smh

The disappointment too, haven't had this much faith in developers since Rockstar, idk who's making the calls at Embark but the game is suffering in every valuable aspect.
Gadgets, specialization, now drip?
Nothing is safe.

Side Note:
S4 graphics ARE looking good, but that lag tho...

midnight aurora
#

why not make the sledge longer instead of making it useless

unreal fossil
jagged bough
zinc haven
#

I just wish this isn't it for Halloween items and we still get the skeleton makeup showcased in Alpha or Beta 🏁

vapid sand
# unreal fossil Oh ffs you haven't been "ripped off >10€", this was ONE unlock out of 96 levels ...

You don’t get it. The reason why ppl are so pissed is that it was „exclusive“. Not all players don’t care about anything. Some players love collection stuff, as older it is, as more rare it is. Special stuff which isn’t obtainable anymore like items/emotes/cosmetics from the old battlepasses was RARE and should be stay there. It’s like having an old Oldtimer in your garage.. if they build it till today, then nobody wants it because it’s nothing special. IDK why people like you don’t care about that… we are sitting in the same Boat. You should be aware too that old items you earned a long time ago which was „special“ is now a casual thing just because Embark is getting greedy and want the easiest money by doing nothing new. And then there are people just like you who defend there Strategie.. that’s crazy dude

grim patrol
#

Imagine being mad that you paid less than the skin pack is worth and got a ton of other stuff for INFINITELY cheaper than it would be worth if they rereleased all season 1 cosmetics as individual packs.

Personally I think it's a step in the right direction. After 2-3 maybe 4 seasons, bring back old cosmetics in the shop. Or even make it a rotation, every week an old set or bundle of smaller items like the charms and stickers.

This will vastly limit FOMO, where the FOMO is instead "Get this great deal, get a battlepass and pay like 10 bucks for more than 100$ worth of cosmetics."

Even as a player around since season 1 with every limited cosmetic, I want it so that new players can get old cosmetics and have the freedom to decorate their character, and doing it this way still gives people like, 9 months of exclusivity, and then helps to bring in MORE MONEY FOR EMBARK TO MAKE MORE SKINS. It's literally a win-win

upper citrus
minor notch
misty wolf
foggy ginkgo
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Nerf pike keep model everybody who says otherwise is poop. And the patch DID NOT fix the weapons attachment issue still off center at times

grim violet
#

bring back goo ship

prime bane
# misty wolf They are the minority in this and I'll be damned if the MINORITY wants their ite...

Lol, so the minority's wants don't matter. Good job, bro. Keep saying stuff, it's just comedic at this point. They lied to their playerbase and you're making an excuse for them to make money, they very easily could've just made a new skin altogether or a reskin like they've done so in the past. I'm not going to respond to you anymore because it's just a back and forth with no change.

onyx crystal
#

Specialisations -

Grapple - Buff acceleration rate
Cloak - Buff sneakiness but make louder
Dash - Revert that one cooldown nerf

Healing Beam - Nerf stacked beams to 50%
Turret - Balanced tbh
Demat - Make ALL connected demats revert

Charge n Slam - Nerf, make damage increase on consecutive hits, EG 50, 80, 130 (Slam stays same)
Winch Claw - Nerf to not go through meshes
Goo Gun - Balanced, but bring back goo boats
Mesh Shield - Make cooldown like 2 seconds, idea is good, 7 seconds is not good

uneven dagger
#

1 feedback message per month for everyone Clueless

stone hazel
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i cant wait for the dual blades to become usable

cedar wadi
# quick coyote Then hop on the game asap support it as fast as possible where have y'all been? ...

Dude, I've been here since open beta aswell, and let me tell you, it's not that deep bro. The skins from previous battle passes literally hold no value, they're pixels on a screen. And wanting really good looking skins from previous battle passes to be gatekept from new players is dumb + the skin literally cost twice the amount of money as the entire season 1 battle pass. And if you only play the game to grind the battle pass you should probably play something else.

frank gull
# slender iron bro just wants to gate keep skins 😭

Say that to the top 500 T.A. players.

That's the WHOLE reason they gave up their social life, or in *some cases any morality & hacked to the top.
That's a large point of any game especially a good FPS drip matters to the nerds that love this/that game.

You're not "cool" because you don't care about a game so stop trying to seem better than people that do. It's clear you just don't get it & that's ok. It's just a video game. Let people give honest Feedback brother.

marble crane
foggy moat
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Tdm mode is needed bad

buoyant ingot
viral stump
# misty wolf They are the minority in this and I'll be damned if the MINORITY wants their ite...

imagine, a brand new strore opens, you got this exculise item and the seller told you it would be exclusive for the future. There would be others buying but only for a short time that they were selling. You like it and think its pretty sweet that only some people have this thing, its a small thing but its neat and you paid for it. 6 Months later you got to the same vendor and he is selling the same thing to everyone. Its the fact that we were there and supported the game at the very beginning. If it was something that came out in like season 3 and we were in season 8-10 and it came out now, I'd be annoyed but I'd understand. Doing your day ones dirty like that is pretty sad imo.

toxic shadow
subtle oak
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Do something about defib chaining and stack healing. Halfway through the fourth season and Medium hasnt been touched, only nerfing light and heavy…

patent fractal
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Please make posters, I would buy them ong vvvvv

paper void
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Real shit^^^^^

thick sorrel
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Awesome explanation!

misty wolf
# viral stump imagine, a brand new strore opens, you got this exculise item and the seller tol...

I was Beta and day one and if these people who paid for their BP cared so damn much about an item that became time exclusive then they have something wrong in your head.

The only REAL reason people care about the exclusivity is to SELL their accounts. They want their resell value. Or to show off but majority of people dont care.

@prime bane <- He has no substance but going wah wah wah and repeating himself.

So as an actual game feedback/request
Would be it good to have all melee weapons excluding lights to have a speed boost?

feral schooner
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in terms of merch, you should be selling that chinese dude's alarm clock that shuts down by defusing the cash in station, morbillions are to be made here. And current merch store is VERY bland, look at all the cosmetics in game, just slapping logos on black shirts is really meh.

prime bane
# misty wolf I was Beta and day one and if these people who paid for their BP cared so damn m...

Stop pinging me, I already told you I don't want to engage with you anymore. Also, what you've said is stupid. That's like saying the only reason people wanted closed beta skins was so they can sell their account. Keep glazing embark, lol.

Buff KS-23 accuracy/movement accuracy and reload speed, make MGL32 blow up on impact with player but potentially lessen the damage, rework spear, nerf pyke dps but keep headshot damage, buff revolver range.

worn tapir
versed hazel
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either delete kyoto or make fully brick your PC or console if you happen to get it.

errant sedge
#

why am I playing emerald 1s while I'm silver in world tour????? It makes no sense embark. Fix the matchmaking

quaint forge
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Thanks for fucking giving me useless shit teammates that get boosted up to higher ranks and for matching me with fucking smurfs

grim patrol
# misty wolf I was Beta and day one and if these people who paid for their BP cared so damn m...

As another early player, season 1. I have wanted this sort of thing for a while, I hope it's a trend they continue. There's still some FOMO but shifting it from "you'll never have this if you don't get it now" to "Massive discount, 10$ for over 100$ of value and a year of exclusivity to show off. Or buy what you want from the pass in a year but at a higher price." Is a welcome change. And honestly one of the arguments I hate the most is that "battlepasses and exclusivity help retain player counts" I think if a game needs FOMO to stay alive it shouldn't exist as a game, and I honestly don't believe the finals needs FOMO to exist.

I think the finals would benefit from either a daily/weekly rotating store of old content 3-4 seasons after they've aired, consisting of either bundles, such as the whole outfit sets, as well as packages of stickers/sprays/charms/animations. Or alternatively, a rotating set of the pages of the battlepass like "here's page 1/2/3 of the BP for 500 multibucks each"

As for the melee weapon speed boost, I think maybe something like a passive "charge" system could be interesting, such as when sprinting with a melee weapon out they gain a 5-15% speed boost after sprinting for 3-5 seconds, this benefit ends when you stop sprinting, switch off of your melee weapon, or attack. This would allow for closing the gap slightly better with melee during prolonged chases, without interrupting the mid combat flow too much, being something you'll experience more outside of combat, or at the beginning and end of combat.

frank gull
# quartz shell I think the fact that the alien is not exclusive is good, if you obtain a skin a...

because balancing around High Elo, & ignoring the masses has worked so well for the balance of everything.

#👂┇game-feedback message -
@winged hazel Fair point old skins were like a badge of experience for seasoned players. (Pun intended)
Not everyone can get diamond/Ruby/Emerald.
Some people just have time for quick play...

Re-Releasing just Takes away the most basic way to earn a collectable & value to in game cosmetics

Embark please do better.

  • A Fan
frosty totem
#

Lies of Embark

turbid mortar
#

Embark PLEASE fix the fact that people killing themselves with their own grenade launchers mid combat doesn't reward anyone with a kill. Situations like this don't crop up super often, but they're ridiculously annoying when they do. I think anyone who watches this clip (probably no one because no one gives a shit) would agree that I killed this guy fairly. But because the very last hit was him shooting too close to himself with his own grenade launcher, I don't get a kill or even an assist.
https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/iWqk8fzeacFQf0LJy/d1337BDFdcfC?invite=cr-MSxsdW8sMjAwNDI0NTUwLA

uneven mountain
#

can we have some steam point shop items?

onyx crystal
limpid gust
#

Can we please nerf the defib, it's impossible to fight mediums that just bring their teammates back non stop.

median surge
viral stump
marble crane
umbral rampart
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Oh man, why didn't I think of steam stuff. I'd 100% love this. Profiles and emotes galore.

misty wolf
# viral stump I've played beta and s1-4 also my brother I think you are just in denial. If you...

Ah yes, your brother thinks. You had your time and your money. and that was a year ago. Now, you are coming over here to say let the people who spent their money and time, including myself, have their say.
My girlfriend, who also plays this, wants the Lewis roulette skin but cant even have it since she came in late and thinks that people defend those who want to keep exclusives locked behind their terrible FOMO idea are just the worst people imaginable and cant think of better ways to get it.

On a side note: You want your exclusives? Do ranked and World Tour. Best way to have exclusivity from all the time spent.

glacial salmon
#

They actually made the sledge damage range animation worse what the fuck

pliant glade
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so when we fixing no regs on sword when dashing embark

swift solar
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so... battle royale in the finals when???

timid walrus
#

more bucket hats 👍

versed hazel
#

I'm convinced that the main goal while designing and "optimizing" Kyoto was just to try and piss off as many people as possible. delete the map, it runs like shit.

daring fossil
dry portal
#

Why are weapon sights a paid option?

autumn sedge
cursive geyser
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i genuinely cant believe a skin has everyone in shambles, this is comedy lmaoo

polar prairie
quartz shell
#

👽 alien friend says that he wants model's rework

bold bone
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Pike needs to do 49. The second LH1 was able to do 52 on hit it was nerfed in the same week, why does medium just get to have the broken version of the lh1 it for like a month or so now

quick coyote
rugged flax
#

Please add pumpkin frag grenade skin with sound effects for free like last years Christmas frag grenade 🙏

prime bane
normal gyro
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Reward players for representing their sponsors

I feel as though you should get more fans if you use cosmetics or skins that represent the sponsor that you chose. For example, each cosmetic/skin you use should boost fan gain by 5% per piece, and have an upper limit of like 20% maximum.

How can you gain fans if the fans can't even see what sponsor you represent??

quick coyote
#

stop buffing the fucking melees its an FPS game

viral stump
tall kernel
# viral stump imagine, a brand new strore opens, you got this exculise item and the seller tol...

It’s not like any of this stuff is tradable so it’s not a big deal at all. The finals has some of the best cosmetic and best deals, especially since you can buy one thing and you don’t have to worry about missing it cause it’s always their…. The finals community is full of so many cry baby grown adults… if you dont like it go play valorant and pay for an $80.00 skin bundle…. The store shouldn’t be about exclusivity, because sometimes people can’t always get on at the same time, sometimes people are on vacation, sometimes theirs a death in the family and they don’t play for a while… bro theirs so many reason people might miss a store update or the possibility to finish battle pass. Stop crying about a damn VIDEO GAME COSMETIC and worry about something of actual importance.

misty wolf
drifting acorn
#

fix this bro (the ariad CNS face glitch effect does NOT go over the spotlight stealer mask like it should)

Screenshot_2024-09-22_234031.webp
pliant glade
#

can we please fix the moving platforms embark

foggy ginkgo
#

It 2 shots light just like the light shotgun. I see no one complaining about double barrel one shotting lights and that’s coming from a light main model isnt op the rest of the guns gave just been nerfed which makes it feel as if its op.

willow wharf
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Fucking fix kyoto shits garbage

calm lion
#

I'm having a problem where I can't choose contestant in pre game selection I have to choose it in lobby before

summer citrus
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This game is dying for a reason embark, fix the matching system

daring fossil
# foggy ginkgo It 2 shots light just like the light shotgun. I see no one complaining about do...

no one complains about the DB because the DB is the worst melee weapon in the game, probably one of the hardest weapons to use well. The model needs a spread nerf so it's not as effective at range. I was one-shot by a model earlier today for 164 damage, it's not supposed to do that, but it happened, the only other explanation was that the first shot didn't register right away and I was hit with damage from 2 shots on the same frame.

frosty totem
#

Lies of Embark

onyx crystal
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i swear yellow roles always have the worst takes (pretend i wasnt yellow a couple hours ago)

sonic spoke
unreal fossil
# foggy ginkgo It 2 shots light just like the light shotgun. I see no one complaining about do...

Apples and oranges. The Model has a far superior effective range than the DB + more ammo. Light is quicker, but dies faster than Medium, which also has the best utility in the game. You can't afford to miss as a Light, you can (a bit more) as a Medium.

A strong shotgun makes sense in the hands of the high risk/high reward glass cannon class, not the support class.

But I do agree that the Model wasn't so dominant before, because it was in the shadow of other weapons (especially the FCAR in its glory days). So nerfing it into the ground should come with slight buffs to Medium ARs to make up for it.

fallen mirage
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Great to see alot of bugs being fixed, I'm holding out for a fix to the goo grenade as it doesn't register/go off from time to time when thrown. I still enjoy this game as much as ever. I feel the FCAR could with a minor point buff to it's damage, with the recoil not being so aggressive, but I'm sure others would disagree. I appreciate it was too OP in previous seasons but I think it has gone a little bit too much the other way now. Light snipers are too safe

river plover
#

Hmmm

Fishing minigame

violet elbow
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No Model nerf in SIX MONTHS

what exactly does your balancing team do again?

viral stump
# tall kernel It’s not like any of this stuff is tradable so it’s not a big deal at all. The f...

thats not the point, whether its tradeable or not. Its about the fact that it was sold as exclusive. It should be honoured, I agree fomo isnt a good thing but thats not my problem. I didnt buy S1 battlepass out of FOMO I bought it because I wanted to support the game and because it was exclusives for being their in S1. Calling me cry baby is very ironic considering the situation. If you wanted the skins that bad just get a re-colour or something. Embark and any company for that matter shouldn't sell things as Exclusive if they won't hold that true. Its dishonest and people have every right to be annoyed.

misty wolf
verbal bane
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Dear Embark,

Please don't listen to all these whining crybabies about "exclusive cosmetics" which were never advertised as exclusive.

Please instead continue to produce, offer, and later make available again the wonderful high quality cosmetic items we all love.

Signed,

Not a whiner

cursive creek
# verbal bane Dear Embark, Please don't listen to all these whining crybabies about "exclusi...

Dear Embark,

Please don't listen to all these whining crybabies about "exclusive cosmetics" which were never advertised as exclusive.

Please instead continue to produce, offer, and later make available again the wonderful high quality cosmetic items we all love.

Also I saw that you have made merchandise at a reasonable price. Still waiting for that Nama Tama Plushie but I know you will make more than just one for sure. Wish you the best of luck finding that manufacturer that you need.

Signed,

Another none whiner

ripe herald
tall kernel
# viral stump thats not the point, whether its tradeable or not. Its about the fact that it wa...

The only thing i remember actually saying is “exclusive”/ limited time only was the heart wrapped ak and rpg.. I don’t remember them saying the battle pass stuff is exclusive.. and anyways they’re not keeping the alien suit up forever so it still has its “exclusivity” that you so desire.. sure it’s not as exclusive as you wish but it’s still exclusive to an extent. And like I said before, it’s just a video game cosmetic

daring fossil
old minnow
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For heavy

Knuckledusters
70 damage
120 RPM
Secondary
Tactical sprint this would allow the heavy to run at the same speed of medium, but holsters the weapon meaning there’s a slight delay between stopping running and attacking
(Has no lunge)

For light

Fists
40 damage
200 RPM
Secondary
When you hold down the button you dodge in whichever way you move via diving and rolling, and you can combo it infinitely with no cooldown as long as you hold down the button

Melee Weapons

Dual blades
Increase the range and accuracy of which it can deflect make it so if you hit a critical hit, you take no damage the final slash is now activated by holding down mouse one or right trigger and does 120 damage each consecutive hits deal an extra 10 damage

(All secondary abilities are now activated by holding down left click or right trigger.
And all melee weapons can now block they cannot block bullets. They take 50% less damage from each other. Excluding dagger, knuckle, dusters fists, this weapons cannot be blocked or block but they can be Perryed
Riot shield cannot parry)

Perry it allows you to stun your enemy and take no damage the last for 0.5 Seconds You can also Perry bullets, but you still take damage unless it’s dual blades you cannot spam Perry if you block there’s a cool down for Perry ing for 0.4 seconds if you are perryed you can still move You just can’t attack

vapid sand
# tall kernel The only thing i remember actually saying is “exclusive”/ limited time only was ...

They said that it was exclusive. You can look in the patch notes „96 exclusive rewards“ is displayed in the patchnotes back then.
Sure it’s just cosmetics but they were not obtainable anymore. It’s like spitting in the face of Old players who support the game since the early days. The „exclusive“ stuff they got for supporting the developer is now for everybody. „It’s just one cosmetic“ yea.. but that’s just the beginning. If they do it like that once, they will do it again. I don’t know how people defend embark for doing that. That’s a typical EA/activision move and just greedy. .. but not embark. Nobody would say anything if the skins/emotes got recolored or a little bit different, but it doesn’t

olive plaza
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Alright so this is just throwing this out there but what if S5 was set in Chicago during the roaring twenties? Tommy Guns, 1911s, all the stuff. Really coming off the heel of WW1 and moving into the Prohibition Era.
Also you’d have an opportunity for the music department to tackle swing jazz and given how good the soundtracks have been I’d welcome some variety here

This is definitely more of a concept idea and not an actual plan. Just something for the devs to consider

mortal notch
minor notch
round hornet
minor fern
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Should do a quick cash with halloween theme on specific map and the coins be candy corn. Would be a good time! Night mode with fog and add jack-o-laterns and stuff and make it "spooky" but coins be candy corns.

tall crag
#

I've had three games in a row where there is at least two teams of medium running shotguns

lament talon
#

Game feels better than last season in a competitive point of view.

Medium shotty maybe a lil bit overtuned rest im happy with as a heavy.

Im just sad I couldnt force myself for ruby akm

keen lily
#

20 minutes looking for a ranked game even with crossplay on, the game is dead

brittle obsidian
#

Give AK it's ammo back and buff FCAR a little bit

grim patrol
# sonic spoke Game is not dying. Lol

Just wanna say it kinda has been, peak players have already dropped back below 20K in only 2 weeks with a continuous downward trend.

Edit: I worded that a little poorly and partially wrong. I should say over the last 2 weeks, peak players have begun averaging under 20K with a few days, the weekend I believe, touching just above it.

Edit 2 reply to IRISH because I have a 25 min timer.
Yeah, I agree with that, they need to add more game modes. Improve private matches/lobbies and allow you to pick teams. And add some level of customizability to said private matches, like the ability to ban or force certain weapons, and to have custom weapon rules, like unlimited ammo, custom fire rates, ranges. The ability for there to be a spectator "game master" So streamers can go "you know what would be funny in this tourney? aliens right now." And as the host force it to happen. I feel if they genuinely lean into the gameshow type thing, giving more control to the people to host custom lobbies and their own sorts of events, like "ALL RIOT SHIELD 24/7 METEOR SHOWER" or some goofy stuff, it'd help the game since more people will be just doing what they want without worry, it'll increase enjoyment and reduce burnout.

onyx crystal
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Honestly I prefer having a new broken weapon every week than having 1 slightly above average weapon for 2 months

foggy ginkgo
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Because they finally realized you guys are a bunch of whiny babies. The models not op everything else has just been nerfed into the ground. You whiny babies are the reason the game is in this state.

jaunty fern
#

what about a broken weapon for 8 months? (its a model reference)

lilac coral
queen hawk
#

my favorite part of the game is the recycling of skins in the shop before a year

teal minnow
#

There are big problems with cosmetics since new engine

lapis cedar
#

Revolver red dot sight is so dumb, if the enemy is far ur bullet will turn to left (not where u aim)

mortal notch
#

Revert the changes to goo gun in 4.4
You can’t stop people anymore
You can’t barricade surf it’s nearly useless compared to goo grenade now
Stop removing everything that’s creative and unique about the game

prime bane
#

Buff mgl32, goo gun, ks-23, and rework spear. It'd be cool if the MGL32's grenade still bounced but exploded upon impact with a player or/and some kind of defense (dome shield, mesh shield, maybe even barricade.) Ks-23 needs an accuracy buff, especially while moving, and a slight reload speed buff to make it more on par with the deagles. The only other thing I can think of is the revolver, it feels really lacking in comparison to the pike. Maybe buff it to lessen the fall off damage at range. I only play heavy, so it's all I can speak about.

Also, regarding the recent cosmetic stuff please let people know what skins are ACTUALLY exclusive in the future.

old minnow
#

Abilities

Abilities are a substitute for gadgets you can unequipped your gadgets to equip two passive abilities

The way you would equip these abilities would be by pressing the upwards arrow button above the first gadget, and it would swap to abilities and do unequipped abilities press the down arrow next to the ability to swap back to gadgets this can only be done in the menu

The way you were unlock these you go to equip an ability and press a ? And it would give you a random ability this cost 1000 VRs

Heavy
1.Plated protector
+100 HP But start regenerating 2 seconds later

2.Heavy-handed
range weapons deal 30% more damage
melee weapons deal 15% more damage
Shotguns deal 10% more damage
No ADS or secondary’s

3.Healthy head
Gain 5 HP per elimination in a row

4.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

5.Long legs
Run faster than a light and reload 2x faster but at the cost of 100 HP

6.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

7.Tank
+200 HP start regenerating 3 seconds later lose 60% of your movement speed

  1. Swift hunter
    Deal 15% more damage

7.Healthy dose
start regenerating 2 seconds earlier

8.Thick ego
With every elimination gain 10% HP but loose 5% movement speed
(stops when you reach 1% movement Speed)

Medium
1.Plated protector
+100 HP But start regenerating 2 seconds later

2.Heavy-handed
range weapons deal 30% more damage
melee weapons deal 15% more damage
Shotguns deal 10% more damage
No ADS or secondary’s

3.Healthy head
Gain five HP per elimination in a row

4.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

5.Insanity
Do 10% more damage and move 20% faster every elimination in a row, but lose 5% of your HP with every elimination
(stops when you reach 100 HP)

6.Elimination streak
Do 5% more damage with every elimination in a row

7.Lifesaver
Revive 60% faster

8.Swift hunter
Deal 15% more damage

9.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

Light
1.Raw deal
lose 50 HP but move faster than light itself
(Plus%70 speed)

2.Speed Demon
With every elimination in a row gain 10% speed

3.Great sacrifice
The time between you can use your specializations is 30% longer, but you gain 50% speed

4.Elimination streak
Do 5% more damage with every elimination in a row

5.Spider climb
stick to walls and climb 2x faster then a ladder

6.Lazy light
Standstill to quickly recharge your specializations
(This works while you’re using cloaking device)

7.Rapid succession
decrease the amount of time you have to wait for your specialization by 40%

8.Insanity
Do 10% more damage and move 20% faster every elimination in a row, but lose 5% of your HP with every elimination
(stops when you reach 80HP)

9.Swift hunter
Deal 15% more damage

10.Butcher
Lose 35% of your speed gain 40% damage

round hornet
#

The message mighty was replying to mentioned alien skins and balance issues both. Hence made up problems, plural.

lime kraken
#

Dear embark devs,
Pls add ps5 kbm as soon as possible 🙏

grim folio
#

solo q as a heavy main makes this game unenjoyable pretty fast ngl. Can't even tell you how many times I come a cross a lobby just stacked with lights and mediums and maybe one other heavy smfh

livid spruce
#

Give season 1 owners some kind of badge of honor or whatever so everyone can get battlepass items and they keep their status. hug_friend

rough hinge
#

Dear Embark studios,

Keep up the amazing work of ignoring your playerbase Haters, Due to recent changes the numbers reflect that the game is dying growing at breakneck speed & 18,000 daily steam players is abysma amazing progress for a free to play game, you are spending all this money developing the game further keep this up and you will be sure to hit < 10,000 concurrent at the end of this season down from 13,000 at the end of last season.

Thanks friend hug_friend

foggy ginkgo
#

Sorry but it’s the truth everybody that screams nerf every 2 seconds is a whiny baby and that’s facts. And you never implied you agreed the opposite actually. But if you agree hats of to you for not being part of the problem. FEEDBACK :we really need embark to not allow 3 stacks of one class that would fix a lot of the defib and light complaints without completely removing or changing things.

wraith orchid
fast rover
#

revert the changes to season 1, start over from scratch and close all feedback channels. make changes according to your data and experience (with pros maybe) and not changes because who cries the loudest on a social media channel 👍🏻

glossy sun
#

people are kinda dumb thinking that they removed fomo with the bringing old bp skins as bundles they just made it different kind of fomo which you feel like you have to buy bp because it will be absurdly expensive later on what they should've done is bring back old battle passes so we can buy it even if we start later in the life cycle of the game so we don't miss it with normal price but without the multi bucks reward

keen abyss
boreal sentinel
#

There are two things I would like Embark to add in the game.

  1. Please add a role que mode where only ONE role is allowed throughout the match. ( Light vs Light only, Medium vs Medium, Heavy vs Heavy )
  2. Can we have 1 under barrel grenade launcher on the FCAR pretty pleeeeasseeeeeeee
woven compass
#

hey guys do you know the exact tÄąme the new circuit stage will be unlocked?

onyx crystal
left warren
worn yacht
#

GAME IS CONSTANTLY STUDDERING AND LOSING FRAMES On every map . I'm on xbox and it's just not fun .

willow yoke
#

Any news one when the balance team will be fired and replaced?
Even a AI can do a better data analysis and balancing than these people.
Its now 5 weeks since playtest and 3 months since s3. Neither pike or model is nerfed
but thank god heavy sledge hitbox was fixed.

pulsar willow
#

As a SR-84 main, after it's hitscan changes and Pike dominating on basically any range, I've came up with certain changes SR could get to stand a chance against pike players:

  1. Projectile speed increase. I've been in multiple 1v1s against pike players, and because pike is way more forgiving, it can kill me in 3-4 bodyshots when I still have to land 1 head and 1 body to kill medium. To compencate this - I suggest to make projectile around 30-40% faster. It'll be easier to use, but still not as OP as it was being fully hitscan
  2. Increase RPM of it. I know that SR is basically high risk-high reward weapon, but again - since pike exists, there's basically no reward after all

~~ or just nerf pike idk ~~

snow dagger
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we need more throwing knife skin

regal stratus
keen lily
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12pm my time, still can't find a ranked game in over 10 minutes, I'm plat 4. Crossplay is on, the game is dead, everyone playing world tour, good job splitting the playerbase genius devs

junior sigil
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maybe i dont understand something, but why the alien set from s1 battlepass is featured in the shop?

stark axle
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money

tropic snow
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Re-releasing exclusive bundle in store does not give people less fomo to buy battlepasses, it's a weak excuse especially because its only available for the duration of halloween seasonal event which was conveniently failed to be marked correctly, if anything it adds more fomo to spend money on the game, I assume devs were well aware of this yet went with it anyway is just crazy to me.

Also getting rid of goo plane felt like a low blow, the gravity cube is under utilized as it is and this was another creative mechanic removed from Heavy's arsenal, we have such game breaking balance issues like having 7 model players in a single round or swords enormous hitbox yet you're still demolishing heavy, my point being their time and resources could be put into much more important areas.
We havn't got a new mode since May, I'm really hoping something is up for halloween not just dusting off the map design from beta because content creators are so dry at this point they're forced to keep making videos on the questionable balance changes over and over.
Also props to the artists making skins like the latest Lewis gun but dumping out cosmetics each week is just not enough, we need actual events like Bunny Bash and Smoking Guns not just these fomo induced community event of "reach x number collectively".

devout ruin
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hey embark, if you're gonna sell our "exclusive" battlepass cosmetics atleast make the seasonal event skins free, nobody's gonna use a damn pumpkin head after halloween you silly, it just comes across as desperate and greedy.

austere crow
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haha pumpkin head go yaarrrr 🎃

swift heron
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Also if you want to resell old battlepass stuff you could at least give the people who got them trough battlepass a recolor so the battlepasses actually mean something. So something like fortnite did with skulltrooper / ghoultrooper

arctic pelican
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I'm ready for more interesting World Tours like everyone has to play heavy or everyone has a set loadout per-class. Think of it, like a weekly "Limited Time Mode," it'll keep it more fun and dynamic, go to ranked if you wanna sweat!

lofty coyote
river plover
ionic tusk
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Day 6 of asking for Mitch Murder music collab

sly gull
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am i the only one with ocd that gets triggered like hell from the "new" markers on the game modes?!? which only disappear after u started a round... ._.

daring fossil
# keen lily 12pm my time, still can't find a ranked game in over 10 minutes, I'm plat 4. Cro...

season 1 had unranked tournaments too though lol

@sly gull yes, I've had to clear the new marks like 3-4 times this week.

@ionic spade in this scenario you describe, the dude "cheating" is probably playing on repeated burner accounts from getting banned (why they are only gold), and is boosting the 2 bad players that are in plat, and I doubt if anything happens to the people getting boosted, unless it's obvious to embark that they are constantly playing with cheaters.

ionic spade
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im not sure this count as feedback?

I have played for a long time on and off since around beta. and i been grinding the Game a lot this season and had a good time. think this season is a banger.

But i think i have notice after getting around plat, I think i see a cheater every 10 ish games. things like very high Headshot rate, a lot of info with seeming no sorna grenades or tracking darts not surpicing to see those guys droping 20-30 kills and dieng a single time or 2. often playing with 2 other meduims that are very bad, to a point where i scracth my head how they are in plat, or gold for that matter. everything from them taking a very long time getting a jumpad that gets placed half under a roof, or seem to have no idea where they are on the map. cathing them often running around trying to get to the side taking a huge detur alone.

I checked out the players on the leaderbords often it strikes me as the accounts i belive i cheating is around mid to high gold queing with plats. plats being the 2 other way worse players. often ques m/m/L or m/m/m .

I know im not the best player in the game and i know it takes time to make the game better. And anti cheat is a cat and mouse game. and i think in times it could be a skil issue where i had a smurf form a top 500 god or is a player with 1000 hours in aimlabs. Or had a high seed macth i maybe didnt noicte.

But i seen this after looking up 5 times the past week.

i guess the feedback is more a qustion.
I really want to know when a player gets bannded does it effect the people that ques with that person? like you having 60 games in this season.
and do we see bans on players that are soft cheatings getting banned?

edit.
i guess is like that? also just wanted to know if this was a me issue
feel like some player see a guy going 10 -4 and calls out chaters every macth when it is a skill isse. I really want to give the doubt that they are good im bad

worn horizon
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i like the new halloween designed maps, didnt think you do that with all maps, good job embark!

the radio is my favorite part, any chanceto keep that permanently ingame with different music? like season 1 theme etc.

kindred sinew
smoky gust
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I would like to bring up my hopes and wishes for a possible music box feature

  1. Being able to choose music at all would, on its own, already be incredible

  2. Being able to favorit specific tracks, and having only those play, would be even better
    It allows players to custom build it around their desires
    Be it a nostalgia trip back to season 1/the betas, a mix and match of whatever they like most between seasons, or just having their favorit song play on repeat

This would mostly apply to lobby music and matchmaking music
But, while niche, i think we should also be able to choose the end of match music when the timer on the last cashout is about to run out

  1. With this feature in particular, a pre-view feature would also be nice
    Where if youre scrolling over a song and hover for a second, it plays the most recognizable part, allowing those that arent familliar with the names (yet) to easily find, add and memorise their favorits

  2. Possibly also a name display you can toggle for similar reasons

rough hinge
mortal notch
willow yoke
# rough hinge Careful, I got a 24 hour mute for saying the same thing. I agree, Studio lead a...

idk anymore this balance devs is literally not working anymore
honestly this game just deserves to die and the balance team should be flagged so everyone knows to never touch a game from them again if it has a pvp part

The issue is while there are probably 80+ cool people at embark the 10-20 people on the lead team and balance team just have 0 clue wtf is going on.
TA as ranked mode last season, med meta being so oppressive that two classes become borderline throw picks and the thing they change is sledge.

waxen grove
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World tour is a great game mode for casual players like me it gives you freedom of creativity which in ranked people tend to avoid and stick to the meta. I hope in the future they'll bring some interesting additions to it.

cold willow
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really hoping they experiment more with changes like the current ufo ones, currently the mid-round events dont feel very impactful or fun outside of low gravity, it would be nice to have more of them make a noticeable difference, at least in quick cash/world tour

feral elm
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Some of these holtow contracts seem bugged - complete 15 daily contracts? I'm almost done with today's dailies, and I only have credit for 1 ?

restive crescent
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lets justify selling a battle pass skin that was sold as exclusive with a world tour event (it just changes every ingame event to alien invasion🔥)

hexed terrace
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Hello, why is the 1887 never nerfed, i mean it is the best shotgun in the game,
it can one shot a light at 7.5m and two shot at ~21m.
Two shot a medium at 10m
IT'S A SHOTGUN !?!?!?!?!?!
It as 6 bullets !
A fire rate faster than Usain Bolt
And this weapon is for the role who's suppose to support the team ?

mossy fjord
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I am pro bringing back old skins but I think a subtle recolour would have been the smart option as they have been pushing the fomo and flip flopping on customers does make them annoyed. I feel embark went with no recolour simply as it was cheaper. Same goes for putting simple texture wraps on only a handfull of guns in the shop. I mean if embark wants to sell simple texture wrap gun skins great. Buy why only apply them to some random guns when the player may never use those guns thus wasting the time of even making the skin in the first place. I for one have not bought any weapon wraps for this reson, they simply did not apply to wepons I used. As a side note to help sell emotes and the like can we change it so you can use emotes in the lobby and make the test arena multiplayer as a social space

dusty totem
worn horizon
vagrant plover
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I kinda played finals long enough to give a more thorough balance review and also suggest some changes based on my thoughts, I worked before on a small multiplayer FPS game especially in the balancing act but that does not make me the one voice who's right just some thoughts on the matter. I'm going through most of the things that deal damage in this game and is probably gonna take me several posts.

Light:

✅ M11: Best depiction of a SMG I would expect, maximum damage is only in very close distances, recoil is incredibly high but when mastered can be used in mid-range. Overall well balanced

✅ XP-54: Ever since it's S4 nerf, I think it hit the spot well for a medium range weapon, it would more fit the category of a fast firing AR but since the style is giving light a medium range automatic weapon this is now well done with the reduced damage since S4 especially with the recoil/spread changes that were made in previous seasons. And since it's hipfire doesn't match the M11 you get a choice between those two what your style is.

❌ SH1900: Unfortunately unbalanced in a overpowered but also underpowered way, essentially the double barrel is just a glorified melee weapon with a little bit of range. To achieve maximum damage, you've got to breathe down someone's neck, which is not the point of the shotguns. Got to say, double barrel shotguns is the bane of the of balancing for many devs (Looking at MW2019 vs. MW2022 double barrel).
I feel like the max damage range can be increased alongside a spread decrease so it is slightly more accurate beyond kissing distance, for that the damage should be reduced by a bit or reduce the pellet count so it doesn't have the potential of deleting a light from 10m with one shot.

✅ LH1: Ever since the introduction of sights it's been a great mid-long range rifle to use, even with the maximum damage range nerf. It fits well within the DMR category to deal a lot of damage quickly. The S3 buff to put it above 50 damage absolutely made this weapon broken so right now I think it's in a good state especially when the biggest problem was simple visibility on the sights. To make it fairer to the SR84 though it's bullet should also be a projectile after a certain distance, because now this weapon is very opressive at long range against the weapon that should be the main thing for long range

🆗 SR-84: It probably had been one of the most balanced weapon ever since it's introduction, the change for S4 to turn the bullet into an actual projectile rather than hitscan made it lose many fights against DMRs especially with the new Pike and Deagles. So many times I won a fight against a sniper on extreme ranges (70m+) simply because my weapon was hitscan and theirs isn't even when the weapon wsn't meant for that range, like the Deagles.
In my opinion the bullet speed should get a slight increase and the sight should change to have mil-dots on the reticle so you know where to aim at which distance rather than having to figure it out.

✅ M26 MASS: The new Season 4 shotgun is basically the shotgun the light should have had ever since the open beta, it's damage is on par of what is expected for a shotgun in this game, as well as the range is good. It's not a sniper shotgun but it's not requiring to hug the enemy either for full damage.

❓ Bow: Honestly I have never touched the bow myself, and only died to it. I cannot really say anything on it because I also would have no idea how to balance something like this.

❌ Sword: Sword is one of the most broken melee weapons in this game right now, not because of it's balancing but because due to bugs and animation timers. Such as the lunge being extremely overpowered, the lunge should stop at the first player it hits and should be a line that spawns fixed upon lunging instead of a point stuck to the furthest end of the first person model so players cannot abuse turn spamming.

Post 1/3 about the light's weapons/gadgets

uneven rampart
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GET RID OF THIS RNG GOD AWFUL "CHALLENGE"

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boreal sentinel
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Dual Blades rework
Problem statement: The problem persists that the user is most likely to die first in combat, especially when up against other melee users that literally overpowers dual blade users ( Sledgehammers that can literally one strike kill and light swords that can plunge and dash giving no chance of survival ).

Solution 01: Add a parry mechanic when timed correctly, the user can 100% mitigate damage and counter damage against another melee user when pressing right mouse button at the right time when another melee user is about to attack. Having this skill will at least gives the dual blade users to have a chance against light sword plunging + dashing spams or other melee weapons instead of getting a confirmed execution ( including other dual blades user upon one and another )

Solution 02: Add a front slash skill (plunge such as light sword) for dual blades that does significant damage against other players that can literally outrun the dual blade users. There is no chance for dual blade users to outrun any lights with their movement speed and evasive abilities. There is also no chance to outrun another medium since they both have the same speed. This skill can be activated by holding the right mouse button and left click like the plunge.

dawn barn
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So about that

frosty totem
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The main theme of The Finals should be the song Pretty Little Lies

mossy otter
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with the current buffs, i think the only way to balance Heavy is to bring back S1 Nukes

dusty totem
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Thank you embark for failing keeping your promises and destroying your reputation in 1 day all for a quick buck! Let’s recycle a skin we advertised as ‘exclusive’ and say its an “anti FOMO” measure! Brilliant. Nevermind the fact we sure weren’t against it when we made this promise and managed to keep all other battle pass exclusives (Which they will remain as such) for 4 entire seasons… But hey! If you try to have a discussion about it, we’ll just call it a “made up issue” LOL, Great job!

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delicate basin
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Make goo great again

restive crow
wraith oak
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Full respect for embark and what they do. But if I was embark, I would change out the alien for like some sort of Halloween skin. I would also add a game mode for the 3 weeks, it would be an infected game mode. The map would be soul or something else, but it would be dark and foggy. Then by doing challenges in that game mode, you would get free rewards

torpid sky
sharp current
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saying " We try to avoid using FOMO as a money-making tool as much as possible " while battlepasses are literally based on FOMO is crazy Sadge If battlepasses weren't mentioned as having " exclusive rewards ", it would be fine, but it's not the case

uncut burrow
rich blade
upbeat urchin
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The problem with defib and gadgets in general is that they cool down while you're dead. Embark please fix it !

boreal sentinel
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Bro just use the "Beam Bye Bye" emote under the beams man.

tame crag
lucid crane
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what does the "set active" button do? lol

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uneven rampart
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RNG challenges shouldn't exist in the game

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cerulean musk
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I've started to hate the final round of Cashout. Every time, I have to try harder than ever because I always end up playing against three Mediums. With infinite revives when combining defibs and tokens, it becomes ridiculous. I seriously enjoy the game and every mode, but when a team has to fight another team with three Mediums, especially in the final round, it's just not fun anymore, whether we win or lose

dusty totem
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Remember to watch your favorite streamers on Twitch play THE FINALS or else you may miss our limited time™️ exclusive Twitch drops!

smoky gust
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Please revert goo gun

Goo planes were not an issue, otherwise we would have seen complaints
If anything this was something niche but funny to do

This just punishes experimentation and collaboration within the community because fun strategies that are spread around are being removed

vagrant plover
# vagrant plover I kinda played finals long enough to give a more thorough balance review and als...

❌ V9S: It was very strong and powerful in the open beta, quite a lot actually but it was nerfed so far down on release that it got so many buffs over time that it's spot still so unsure where to fit in. Because looking at it balancing wise it's supposed to be very close range semi-auto spam weapon since it's damage already starts dropping off after a few meters. But honestly it should be fitting the spot of a close-medium range weapon kind of like a baby LH1 with reduced recoil. I really think it could use a max damage reduction but with increased maximum damage range and increased minimum damage. So it fits that category of a closer-medium range weapon well rather than being tried for an exclusively close semi auto weapon.

❌ 93R: It never has been a good weapon or seen of any use since it's introduction in S2, the damage profile is similary of that of the Famas, with less range. Light simply has already great options to engage at medium ranges, like the LH1 and XP-54. Honestly was a mistake adding this weapon, not gonna lie. But now that it is here you cannot take it away. So my thought would be first of all giving it a red dot sight to help with the medium range sight profile, alongside a minimum damage increase and possibly even upping the headshot multiplier a bit (unsure about the HS multiplier increase), so it can be seen as the medium range burst weapon like the famas, because right now, it really isn't.

✅ Dagger: I think with the change in Season 4 it's been good. As much as its frustrating to die to a random backstab quick melee combo as a heavy, it is simply a high risk high reward close range weapon. With the addition of holding the charge, you no longer have to time the backstab which is a good addition helps with those closely missed backstabs simply due to animation timing.

❌ Throwing Knives: Absolutely terrible, a ranged unlimited ammo weapon should not exist. While the damage and projectiles are not the problem I think they are actually really fair, it is simply the unlimited ammo pool that makes this weapon absolutely annoying to die to. A simple introduction of a cooldown system or just a simple reload animation that forces this weapon to have an ammo pool you've got to watch out for rather than carelessly spam left click, would make this a balanced weapon. For an ammo pool addition, the right click attack should not count within the ammo pool as it has a fair long charge up timer.

Now for light exclusive gadgets:

✅ Breaching Charge: While this is not intended for killing or dealing damage, I am glad that the charges got bumped up to 3 now. Light really was lacking any quick destruction devices and with the breach charges you really can make great destruction plays or simply open up paths

❌ Stun Gun: While it is not a tool that shouldn't exist, it is absolutely misused. It is mostly used as the free-kill tool rather than the objective and melee disrupting tool that it is designed for. It's hard to put it in the right spot for it. While this may a be a wrong thought but possibly this could be balanced by reducing the damage taken from the stunning player by half. So that it is no longer used as this free kill tool but as a major disruption tool, to stop objectives, stun melee players going at you.

✅ Thermal Bore: Perfect breaching tool on distance, exactly what the light needed since open beta. The cooldown is long enough to not make it oppressive against heavy defenses.

🆗 Smoke Grenades: The amount of smokes being 3 is good. I really think the smoke cloud thickness should be increased so that it simply conceals the area properly rather than being a simply dust cloud.

❌ Gateway: It's mostly a required item if you're playing the objective, nothing beats it, not even the grappling hook, and you cannot even counter it. It really should be affected by glitch mines/grenades so that it has some counter play.

Post 2/3 about light weapons/gadgets

fiery saddle
mild veldt
wanton phoenix
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My days the subreddit is just filled with complaining all the time. Nerf this Nerf that buff this buff that. Sledgehammer sword CL40, it seems every weapon and everything is overpowered for those people

red cosmos
patent mural
uneven rampart
# patent mural Wdym RNG?

Its luck based if someone will actually try to cap it

Its luck based if you own the vault at all and can interrupt

worn horizon
keen lily
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it takes 3 business days at plat 4 to get a ranked game, and when you finally do, you play against diamonds with shitty double light in your team who can't do anything, amazing solo queue experience

frank gull
# dusty totem Why not? They promised us an exclusive skin, and the people who wanted the alien...

I agree with you, it's quite shallow indeed.
What about the FOMO S1 players had while grinding for a "Exclusive Skins" Players have already lost 2 outfits. What about the time & effort they put to get the items in the first place?

People acting like EMBARK is "abodoning" "Toxic" Fomo practices are literally just glazing. Manipulation & Gaslighting isn't toxic? 😅 Apparently The suite is only available for a limited time, & what about closed beta? FoMo is a redicuoles excuse for trying to reach for a lazy cash grab.
They ARE just pixels, they definitely aren't anything important.
The issue is Embark was disingenuous when making a deal with Fans. A deal is a deal, & blatantly lying to fans due to greed & going back on your word is just wrong on so many levels, however I guess when you think about it it's not a big deal just Really Weird. Not a *colleague.
What about the people that have lives, & really only had time to grind the B.P. with friends?
So inconsiderate & misstep.

#👂┇game-feedback message - @prime bane they do matter but, only if you're "High Elo", but not the ones picking Heavy, & I still think you're not allowed to call *M players skilled so imagine your typical *L upset about the most niche thing. That seems to be the Vote that matters

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restive berry
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Model change needed

Obviously something needs to change with this weapon, people are crying out for a change. It feels way to strong to play against, especially when there's more than one on a team. I propose this change.

Currently the gun has a lot of overkill towards Lights, and just barely sits over the threshold to 2 shot a medium, meaning they have the same time to kill against 2 different classes, which feels bad.

I propose change the damage from 128 (8pellets * 16damage) to 90 (10 pellets * 9damage), then up the RPM from 67 to 100.

This would mean the TTK differs against all classes, and would put the Model closer to the other gun's TTKs in the Medium class.

The Model currently has the liberty of not having to ADS, while also killing quicker than most other guns. It also gives you the chance to play corners and not have to expose yourself to the enemy while you wait for your next shot, quite often leading to you not being on your opponents screen long enough to kill you, even if they hit every single shot (even head shots!).
This would help to dampen the amount of sustained burst damage the gun has. You've removed a lot of the other burst damage options in the game, this is one of the guns that's gone unchanged in a while, and feels almost outdated (guns used to be stronger). The current Model doesn't seem to belong on the road your paving with past balance changes.

clever hawk
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FOMO is cancerous but the problems with the Alien skin extend well beyond it.

The items in the Battle Passes have previously been stated to be exclusive by Embark themselves.

You have a limited amount of time to complete them & are incentivised to structure your playtime strategically so as to optimise your use of daily/limited contracts for XP.

For those that fail to naturally complete the path towards these allegedly exclusive rewards, an option to pay the utterly extortionate price of 150 Multibucks per item is available. For 1200 Multibucks - more than the cost of the Battle Pass itself - you can purchase just 8 levels. The Battle Pass contains 96 paid levels.

To then later put some of these “exclusive” rewards not only in the store, but at a bundled (discounted!!!) price almost double that of the original Battle Pass it belonged to despite containing 11 items and not 96, as well as failing to provide prior communication & clarification, is beyond scummy.

This means you have previously incentivised and pressured players to put in either time or money for something whose exclusivity you have ultimately lied about. You have deceived players with FOMO and encouraged them to spend ridiculous amounts of money with that deception.

You’ve been largely consumer friendly up to now but this is a major red flag.

A far better system that would circumvent most FOMO would be to permanently reintroduce each Battle Pass 3-6 months after they first expire, similarly to Halo.

You could make them a little more expensive and have them award fewer Multibucks. This would provide players with timed, in-game financial, & out-of-game financial incentives to purchase the Pass at release, but still allow future players a reasonable way to access all of the cosmetic items.

dusty totem
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Thank you embark for failing on keeping your promises and destroying your reputation in 1 day all for a quick buck! Let’s recycle a skin we advertised as ‘exclusive’ and say its an “anti FOMO” measure! Brilliant. Nevermind the fact we sure weren’t against it when we made this promise and managed to keep all other battle pass exclusives (Which they will remain as such) for 4 entire seasons… But hey! If you try to have a discussion about it, we’ll just call it a “made up issue” LOL, Great job!

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vagrant plover
# vagrant plover ❌ **V9S**: It was very strong and powerful in the open beta, quite a lot actual...

🆗 Sonar Grenades: One of the most oppressive spotting tools, especially since it goes through walls. I really feel like being able to shoot the sonar, tossing a glitch grenade/mine at it should stop it/destroy it.

🆗 Thermal Vision: It accomplishes it's goal indoors, but not outdoors. For what it's supposed to be I really feel like on outside areas and foggy weather it should outline everyone the same. The lighting and weather effects just have too much of an impact on the gadget. Other than that I am just glad it does not highlight people through smokes, it just lets you see through, which is an amazing choice not many people do with thermal optics/vision

✅ Tracking Dart: I am simply glad it has more uses now with not such an opressive timer. Really useful for people attacking cashouts out in the open or being able to track an entire team for a short while. Just sad that it gets outmatched by Sonar grenades.

✅ Vanish Bomb: The invisibility specialization should not exist in my opinion and this gadget really should be the only thing to turn invisible with, you cannot overuse it, it has a reasonable timer to maybe get past a passage without being spotted, even as a team, honestly great gadget.

@worn horizon Didn't knew it was doing 24 at distance, still feels like the damage is dropping off too quickly for what it should be, could be wrong. I am not that great of an aim good, so yea.

The stun gun suggestion was simply as a thought because I honestly don't know what to do with it, since it is truly frustrating as any type of player, but especially medium and light. My other thought would be to maybe let people walk at normal speed, disable sprint but glitch the stunned person fully.

frosty juniper
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@dusty totem 💯 like even if it was an alien but made different! Like put a sponsors name across the chest and back and the same on the pants or something 🤷‍♂️, The whole point in buying/grinding a battle pass is for the “exclusive” rewards not to grind and then just be able to buy it later, I know it’s just a game but genuinely felt insulted and betrayed when I seen this yesterday 😟 same goes for the challenges/contracts if you where to bring them back in the store there would be no point doing them in the first place.

crimson jay
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So long as nothing in the s2 s3 or s4 battlepass comes back in the shop we all good

wispy mesa
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S4 emrald skins update when will it be out?

hasty cliff
spare mirage
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Day 12 of asking to add an mp7 to the game

half crypt
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I gotta say avoiding FOMO as much as possible is very pro-consumer and makes me want to support the game! Permanently missing out on items that I want always turns me off from games, I'm glad this isn't an issue with The Finals.

snow cedar
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The Asian servers are really full of cheaters.
Please help me.
Nothing has changed since season 1.
There are so many boosting by unranked cheaters.
Please implement a kill camera feature.
Or, if there is a big difference in rank, please make it impossible to team up.

sudden holly
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Model nerf is taking way too long, full parties running 3 M demat and model.
Also I feel that after nerfing rpg dmg I think it's time to remove stun gun or change it.

sand holly
dusty totem
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They sold us an exclusive skin, and the people who wanted the alien skin got the original one, An exclusive recolor for previous battle pass owners would be the best outcome possible and the best way to address this issue IMO. It’s the way most games deal with the issue and its similar with how Embark dealt with this issue by making reskins in the shop up until yesterday when they decided to say “Fuck it” and redefine the meaning of the word exclusive.

The whole "It's pixels on a screen" argument is so shallow too, if they're just pixels on a screen, why do you care if they were to add an exclusive reskin?

I guarantee more people would be concerned about their “pixels on a screen” if they were ranked reskins or beta rewards. Its “pixels on a screen” until its something that matters to you.

They manipulated us in the by saying the skins were exclusive... I'm not asking for the skins to be removed from the accounts of those who got them, I'm not asking for the bundle to be removed, I'm just asking for a reskin... Why do you care about that?

If Embark were truly anti FOMO they would've backed out on it during S1 when A LOT of players were demanding for the battle passes to stay in s2 and onwards like halo infinite

Its just unfair to say one thing and then back out on their word. But they're just pixels on a screen, right? why do most of you care so much then?

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restive berry
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You guys who are absolutely mortified that they've brought back something from a previous battle pass need to take a second and appreciate all the things you have around you. If this is really big enough for you to have an outburst, your life really isn't going so bad. Take a minute to get things in to perspective here please. It's not that big of a deal.

thick sorrel
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Honestly I don't care about the fucking alien costume at all. They acknowledge this shit, but our complains about Pike, Model, Defib gets ignored?

lilac coral
half crypt
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FOMO is a cancerous strategy in the game industry. I know they've previously stated that battle pass items are exclusive, but it's much better for them to change their mind rather than doubling down on that horrible decision.

marsh oriole
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My personal opinion, the mgl32 bounce is too far

dull kettle
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If ur bringing things back bring back the nama tama goo grenade

fading yoke
#

Can we finally nerf the fucking defib? Meta being MMM gets really fucking stale and tilts everyone to oblivion when there's fucking 6 resses per fight

strong mountain
#

they lied about it's in advertising and said to fight FOMO they are releasing it again as an exclusive item. Sounds hypocritical and shady

languid goblet
pure crypt
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turn defib into the mediums specialisation 👍

final solar
#

pls stop glitch mine from dropping items in your hands, this is so stupid and so strong

rough hinge
boreal sentinel
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Dual Blades rework
Problem statement: The problem persists that the user is most likely to die first in combat, especially when up against other melee users that literally overpowers dual blade users ( Sledgehammers that can literally one strike kill and light swords that can plunge and dash giving no chance of survival ).

Solution 01: Add a parry mechanic when timed correctly, the user can 100% mitigate damage and counter damage against another melee user when pressing right mouse button at the right time when another melee user is about to attack. Having this skill will at least gives the dual blade users to have a chance against light sword plunging + dashing spams or other melee weapons instead of getting a confirmed execution ( including other dual blades user upon one and another )

Solution 02: Add a front slash skill (plunge such as light sword) for dual blades that does significant damage against other players that can literally outrun the dual blade users. There is no chance for dual blade users to outrun any lights with their movement speed and evasive abilities. There is also no chance to outrun another medium since they both have the same speed. This skill can be activated by holding the right mouse button and left click like the plunge.

viscid sapphire
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don't nerf model and defib cuz yall are gonna ruin it.

sage sapphire
#

We're cooking up a list of demands, and Embark had better meet them...
So we got:
Jack-o-lantern frags
Spider and Web for Winch
Necronomicon Defibs
Thiq skeleton or maybe skeleton decal clothes
Witches' Broom for sledge
Demon Eye pyro nade
Transmutation Circle Jump Pads
Planchettes (Ouija board thingies) for throwing knives
Grim Reaper skin + Scythe for sledge
Ritual Dagger for well... Dagger
Mini witch cauldrons for gas grenades
Any more spooky ideas?

echo urchin
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  1. Really hoping we get way better Halloween themed gear than what they released today.
  2. They need to let us buy past battle passes and complete them later on. Any cosmetics except ones based on achievements, ranks, et cetera should be earnable later.
  3. Yeah, it’s lame that they didn’t at least recolor the alien skin when they introduced it to the shop.

All that said, some of y’all need to chill the fuck out.

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vagrant plover
# vagrant plover 🆗 **Sonar Grenades**: One of the most oppressive spotting tools, especially sin...

Medium

Weapons first of course

❌ Model 1887: This weapon was so overshadowed by all the main meta weapons at previous seasons, as nearly all automatic weapons and even chunk damage weapons saw a nerf (like the CL40) then it got brought to light. Kind of an reaction of having everything nerfed for the medium, the damage as is is fine since it cannot one shot a light (Model cannot do more than 128 damage), it's simply the absurd range it has that makes it in this deleting opponent at close - medium distance role. To make it fairer and not so absurd at distance, simply lower the maximum damage range by a little alongside a small spread increase to make the weapon slightly less accurate.

✅ AKM: The base of all balancing revolves around this gun usually. Even in this case if the basic AR cannot compete with other weapons then balancing issues exist. Overall great balancing, the reduction of 4 bullets in Season 4 in my opinion was justified, otherwise why would you play the FCAR? Your TTK is about the same, as the FCAR has a slightly slower RPM.

✅ FCAR: A variant of the AKM for slightly longer engagement distances and less bullets to kill. I really think the FCAR/AKM choice is simply an illusion in S4, both guns achieve the same kill time, just one requires maybe one less bullet to kill on an already damaged enemy.

✅ Famas: The Famas really excelled prior to S4 as the long range weapon for medium, it has a great damage output, great accuracy and now even has a scope for a better sight picture. For a burst weapon this is how it should be.

❌ Pike-556: I really feel like the idea is great, because medium definitely needed a choice to compete against SR and LH1 lights. But being able to 3 shot a light at reasonable distance and firerate without much recoil to control is not a good idea. My idea would be to increase it's recoil in general and then as the gun is being spammed over increases to make it harder to control, right now I think it is too easy to get follow up shots unlike the LH1 which has heavy recoil when spammed. Possibly reducing the magazine size to 10 would also add to it to be more careful with the shots, as it's reload time is pretty long and reasonable trade-off I enjoy. Lastly to not outmatch the sniper at it's range it also should have a projectile rather than hitscan after a certain range

❌ R357: Honestly this gun is hard to put right, it should've been the long range option for medium but with the revolver traits it has it is difficult to do. So you only have 6 rounds which unless the finals doesnt care about appearance could be changed to 8. Because what the revolver fails mostly at is constant downtime after every kill, you take 3-6 shots per kill even if all hit, you require a reload every kill or engagement. Or alternatively/additionally the minimum damage can be increased so that the revolver can deal more damage at distance, if the minimum damage is increased I would hope for a projectile at a certain distance so that the sniper isn't outmatched.

🆗 CL-40: I am mostly happy where the CL40 is at right now, because the S4 buff definitely made it insane for a short while. But what is annoying is dealing under double digit damage to someone. I feel like the should be a minimum damage clamp for the CL40 like 20-30 damage simply so a shell hit is not wasted as a tickle. Additionally more for visuals the hitmarker should change in size depending on how much damage you deal with this weapon, so you know that you hit someone for better damage and when you hit someone for minimum damage

✅ Riot Shield: I think it's a good melee weapon the animations do not set one up for an instant kill combos, plenty of counters and the blocking area of the riot shield does not allow you to cover an entire team. So pretty good.

Medium post 1/3, gonna continue with the dual blades and gadgets in next post.

dense ocean
#

day 40 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

silent fog
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So when are you guys fixing what you absolutely fucked up in the last patch of S3 with "performance updates and improvements"? It made performance way worse, game crashes more frequent and I'm far from the only one.

delicate basin
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MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH

kind slate
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Oh my god, pls. EVERY DIAMOND PLAYER has a low silver with him, and the Silver is cracking the 15+ Kill rounds. FINALS YOU WANT TO FUCK US. SPAWNS are rediculous, and the cheaters are immense

quick coyote
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Guys let's just protest and quit buying the battlepass, if it's not exclusive what's the point and if only certain items are coming back then that's minipulation and still fomo

carmine token
# silent fog So when are you guys fixing what you absolutely fucked up in the last patch of S...

Rather than fixing it, they've actually managed to make it worse with this most recent update yesterday, with the game now causing memory voltage spikes (or something like that) on my GPU, causing it to crash my PC every other round. Never used to happen before this update and doesn't happen with ANY OTHER GAME.
Only way to fix it was to use an GPU utility to undervolt the GPU memory frequency - a utility that The Finals has previously detected as a cheating tool and stopped me from playing the game while it was running.
@native berry the memory leaks are pretty absurd in this game too. If I play for 15 or so rounds, I have to turn the game on and off, as it starts to entirely consume 10 or so gigs of RAM and all 20 gigs of swap.

golden comet
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Adding AMD's Anti lag 2 would be nice

zinc scaffold
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Please get rid of melee weapon's ability to quick melee for insane damage in under .1 second it makes no sense for them to have quick melee when having a melee weapon, if not just reduce the quick melee damage by 80% cause it makes no sense

native berry
# silent fog So when are you guys fixing what you absolutely fucked up in the last patch of S...

you're not alone
game started crashing during s4 for me. havent tried the new update yet but if i try it and it crashes again then i think it aint dx11 causing it

plus if this keeps going they should just change minimum ram requirement to 20-32 gb cuz the crashes are just that annoying, i had to manually open task manager at occasional times and close the finals there everytime it freezes

hasty oriole
empty trench
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chat.
i’ve said it before and i will say it again…
please nerf the turrets in some way. i get beamed in the air, through gas and fire, amongst other players and it doesn’t take a break. i recommend a cool-down after like 15 or 20 shots fired. us poor lights be struggling fr #lightslivesmatter

vagrant plover
# vagrant plover **__Medium__** Weapons first of course ❌ **Model 1887**: This weapon was so ov...

❌ Dual Blades: This is a difficult and tricky one, I like the idea of it but I think like there's simply just bugs holding it off, of it being the cool weapon it should be. To make this weapon work the deflected bullet should be reflected directly back the shooter if aimed at, because right now there's so many cases where you simply stare down into an enemy mag dumping you with like an AK and nothing of it being deflected even thought you get the complete deflect animation. So likely just a bug, because without this bug it is a great weapon to combine with a full mobility loadout, you force enemeis to reposition or even be a great distraction for a teammate to kill them.

Now for medium exclusive gadgets and even some specializations

✅ APS Turret: Ever since the change was made where it's health drains after a projectile got destroyed by it, it's been a pleasant gadget to stop gadgets from breaching defences. You got plenty of counter play or simply just give up your gadgets/grenades in order to destroy it.

✅ Data Reshaper: My favourite gadget ever since it's introduction. Balance wise it is great, especially with the extra charge it got in S4. What sucks is the visuals, you cannot really tell when you can reshape something. You should get a visual cone or line view of the reshape radius so you know what to aim for and additionally when reshaping maybe add like an indicator visually, because I sometimes I just spam all my 3 reshapes just to reshape one thing that was barely out of reach

❌ Defibrillator: The menace ever since the open beta, being able to hot-res in combat is such a high advantage no other gadget brought in. Especially combined with heal beam. In Battlefield 4 players that are revived are prone and immobile for a very short time, that was kinda its fair trade off making them an easy kill. I have two ways of reworking the defib process, but those are of course simply my ideas not something that it should be exactly this or that:

  1. The defib'd player starts with all gadgets and specialisations on 0 and on full cooldown, meaning the player has no specialisation, no gadgets until they start naturally refreshing

  2. The defib player animation can be shot, depending on how much they were shot that will be their revived health, with a minimum health of 1.

  3. The defib'd player starts stunned, with reduced movement and not being able to use their specialization until the stun wears off. (Like 2-3 seconds)

✅ Gas Mines: Probably one of the best cashout defense tool there is. Your mistake if you step on it, no instant damage but a lot and large area of tick damage. Lots of counter play even with arena carriables. Like it (even when I hate dying to them)

✅ Glitch Trap: I am a big fan of the rework of it compared to how it was before, such agreat utility that was extremely oppressive until S4 where it was finally reduced to one per stack, so people dont spam them so quickly. Easy counter play.

✅ Explosive Mines: Ever since it's damage reduction in S4 and stack size reduction it's now a fair tool to take damage from, it's no longer spamable, you can't one shot a medium with a double stack anymore. Can be easily dealt with, pretty good.

✅ Jump Pad: Simply pad to gain elevation, climb or gain an acceleration. Only minor thing that annoys is how much they take to be destroyed, since they can be used defensively in my opinion they should take slightly more damage from explosives.

✅ Zipline: It's a zipline, works as intended, easily destroyable, nothing much overpowered. Only thing for visuals to recommend is maybe at a max range indicator, so you dont fiddle with your zipline trying to find that sweet spot to place it.

2/3 for medium next post is the healgun and turret alongside starting with the heavy weapons post.

sand hazel
#

single handly destroying a game in one season is honestly impressive for embark. why they have decided to completely fuck this game is beyond me but hey atleast they get a bit more money maybe. the constant nerfs leaving everything either feeling underpowered or what hasnt been touched feeling overpowered. this seasons bp that is just mostly reskins and sprays. lastly taking a item they marketed as exclusive to get players to invest more time into the game and then not only reselling it but at twice the price that the entire battlepass costed, but hey they are against fomo for making more money instead they manipulate the player base for more of it which is so much better. all the changes for s4 seemed designed to increase engagement time and make people play more instead of focusing on making the game fun. its sad to see such a unique game go down the corporate rabbit rabbit hole to make more money than care about the players. at this point its just watching the game slowly burn

floral shoal
#

Can we please add the spooky map versions to the quickplay lists?

sleek blade
#

add mnk support to console

dusty totem
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They sold us an exclusive skin, and the people who wanted the alien skin got the original one, An exclusive recolor for previous battle pass owners would be the best outcome possible and the best way to address this issue IMO. It’s the way most games deal with the issue and its similar with how Embark dealt with this issue by making reskins in the shop up until yesterday when they decided to say “Fuck it” and redefine the meaning of the word exclusive.

The whole "It's pixels on a screen" argument is so shallow too, if they're just pixels on a screen, why do you care if they were to add an exclusive reskin?

I guarantee more people would be concerned about their “pixels on a screen” if they were ranked reskins or beta rewards. Its “pixels on a screen” until its something that matters to you.

They manipulated us in the by saying the skins were exclusive... I'm not asking for the skins to be removed from the accounts of those who got them, I'm not asking for the bundle to be removed, I'm just asking for a reskin... Why do you care about that?

If Embark were truly anti FOMO they would've backed out on it during S1 when A LOT of players were demanding for the battle passes to stay in s2 and onwards like halo infinite

Its just unfair to say one thing and then back out on their word. But they're just pixels on a screen, right? why do most of you care so much then?

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carmine token
# dusty totem They sold us an exclusive skin, and the people who wanted the alien skin got the...

I think my biggest problem is that they're pretending that this is anything other than lazy.
This isn't a benevolent company standing up for consumers and taking a stand against FOMO. No, they've had FOMO, and they still have FOMO. You still cannot get 99% of the stuff you got from the previous battle passes or the previous seasonal cosmetics, it's just this one set of items.
You wanna take a stand against FOMO? Let us buy the old battle passes, or release packs for all of the things that were in those passes. Give us ALL OF IT. Otherwise you're just reusing old assets out of laziness and claiming that it's a good thing for us.

thick sorrel
delicate basin
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MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH

polar shell
#

EMBARK: BLOCK PLAYERS WHEN REPORTING CHEATS HAS STOPPED WORKING ON CONSOLE

umbral rampart
mortal notch
zealous robin
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Make this for halloween.. bategg

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quick coyote
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Embark give me closed beta battle pass rewards now I'm having huge fomo give everyone twitch drops now they're gonna have the bad case of fomo If they can't watch the streams, embark make every skin free I'm having fomo because I'm too broke to buy everything

sharp arrow
#

I got two issues that would be easy to fix:

  1. You do not get kills or assists if you are dead for whatever reason.
  2. Please make it if someone killed themselves with an explosive, fire, or jumping off the map, give the person who damaged them last in the past 10 seconds the kill.
echo urchin
#

The change to alien invasion should be permanent.

red echo
torpid sky
misty wolf
vagrant plover
# vagrant plover ❌ **Dual Blades**: This is a difficult and tricky one, I like the idea of it but...

✅ Heal Gun: Ever since it's heal per second nerf and max heal being so much reduced I think it is in a right spot where you really have to pick your heals, rather than just spamming ever teammate full of health.

🆗 Guardian Turret: While the turret is annoying it has a fair share of counter play but I don't think it has enough counter play especially for a well fortified area. Explosives of all kind should deal increased damage to the turret, so unless paired with an APS it is really vulnerable to explosions. Additionally the Thermal Bore when hit directly should destroy a turret even if the gadget is meant for destruction only, I really think turret should count to it too.

(cant say much to demat)

Heavy

🆗 D.50 Akimbo: This weapon is definitely taking the medium range slot of the KS-23 especially with it's firerate. It is a beast even when spammed. Probably an increased spread amount per shot or recoil increase would suffice because right now I can destroy enemies at such crazy distances, it is unreal. Also would suggest this weapon having the projectile instead of hitscan after certain meters, simply because it is a like a DMR for the heavy.

✅ Flamethrower: I hate dying to it, but it is in a good spot now, especially ever since the introduction of the hook, you got plenty of counter play for all classes. Unless it's a flamethrower vs. flamethrower fight, then thats the most boring thing you'll ever see.

❌ KS-23: I really wish the max damage would've stayed the same since S2, because as much as it's a cool tool to use to blow open walls, the damage it has on players is kinda laughable especially on medium distance. It really could use that increase in min and max damage to be able to deal more damage at range as well for such a high skill ceiling weapon, Unless I am not seeing the purpose right for the KS-23, for me it looks like a chonky destruction weapon that also doubles as a slightly worse sniper rifle if it were balanced correctly.

✅ M60: Just a big mag AK, the 1 damage less than AK is fine as you do have the bullets to make up for it. But overall great multi-kill tool if you hit your shots

✅ Lewis Gun: Just the FCAR of the LMGs you get a better time to kill for higher recoil and lower magazine size, fairly done.

❌ MGL32: As much as if this weapon is used right can be good, it's mechanics are extremely situational, you cannot really use it as a direct fire, more as an indirect fire but even then it is really hard to make damage with it due to how the new explosions work. It could definitely use a blast radius increase to see how that would work for it's role, to be able to cover up a bigger area, the minimum damage should be clamped at around 20, so you don't do tickle damage. Also for visual indicator make the hitmarker change in size based on the damage you deal.

✅ SA1216: Automatic shotguns are always annoying to balance but thankfully for choosing such a unique gun (where you have to rotate the tube every 4 shots), it does become more balanced, not annoying to die to the damage is also pretty nicely balanced

✅ Sledgehammer: With the recent animation fixes I think it's in a good spot now, because I got to agree with Embark's choice I was taking hits or damage from a swing that definitely was looking like it was out of range. And the right click damage animation timer was way past it's swing point pre-patch so am glad for the change.

🆗 Spear: I honestly have not seen it much ever since the start of S3 because of the sledge combos, but I feel like if the right click attack was a bit more consistent it would be a fair contender to the sledge.

Gonna cover the heavy gadgets and some specialisations in the next post (Heavy 1/3)

@umbral rampart
Ain't no way, I swear I tried so many damn times back then because I thought it counts a grenade not a deployable so you cant shoot it. Did they change the sonar grenade it because I swear you could not

barren fern
#

This 3 QOL things would help so much...

Grenade indicator... please for the love of god... like any shooter ever, there's a grenade indicator when you're about to get blown the F up. I know we can't throw grenades back, but let me try to get away from them!
Match kill feed, not party kill feed. I want to know when I'm in an engagement, if the guy i was shooting got killed. I don't get an assist or popup or anything, I just run into a different team and need to restrategize.
After death damage summary Make the damage dealt screen pop up immediately after you die. I get res'd so quickly some times I don't know what the damage profiles were of who killed me.

dry quail
#

5 matches in ranked, people disconnecting, bronze and not rank
I was gold 27k, i play mainly solo with matchmaking forming the squad.
In 5 tournaments i played in my team with people with no rank, bronze and in 2 matches i played solo because 2 disconnected and in 1 we played in 2 because one disconnected.
I loved this game, I played a lot but i need to spend my days better.
Bye

rapid stream
median apex
wind plover
#

Rollercoaster skins are incredible. I want more of these skins to come out. I hope the flamethrower comes out. The current number of people goes up to 28 kills, but it's hard to fill them up even if you kill your enemies with other gadgets. Can you please make the assist go up with the kill? I'm so overwhelmed that you made a great skin!

dusty totem
# median apex https://tenor.com/view/dw-dailywire-crainco-crainandco-crain%26co-gif-3870040770...

Lol embed fail 🤣

They sold us an exclusive skin, and the people who wanted the alien skin got the original one, An exclusive recolor for previous battle pass owners would be the best outcome possible and the best way to address this issue IMO. It’s the way most games deal with the issue and its similar with how Embark dealt with this issue by making reskins in the shop up until yesterday when they decided to say “Fuck it” and redefine the meaning of the word exclusive.

The whole "It's pixels on a screen" argument is so shallow too, if they're just pixels on a screen, why do you care if they were to add an exclusive reskin?

I guarantee more people would be concerned about their “pixels on a screen” if they were ranked reskins or beta rewards. Its “pixels on a screen” until its something that matters to you.

They manipulated us in the by saying the skins were exclusive... I'm not asking for the skins to be removed from the accounts of those who got them, I'm not asking for the bundle to be removed, I'm just asking for a reskin... Why do you care about that?

If Embark were truly anti FOMO they would've backed out on it during S1 when A LOT of players were demanding for the battle passes to stay in s2 and onwards like halo infinite

Its just unfair to say one thing and then back out on their word. But they're just pixels on a screen, right? why do most of you care so much then?

also to @carmine token this is also true, not only is this whole ordeal all I've mentioned but its also lazy af, If they're against FOMO, why not bring everything back?

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copper elk
#

nerf sword

silent fog
#

Are you guys just milking the model for skin sales? There's no way you think the gun is in the right spot.

delicate basin
#

MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH

mighty ibex
obsidian ginkgo
# copper elk nerf sword

devs dont play ranked, so they think it's ok to have a weapon which can wipe a whole team solo

jagged cedar
echo urchin
#

I’m tired of nerfs. Give us tactical counters to shit. I’m sick of weapons feeling like peashooters or just being fucking tedious to use.

deep summit
#

Alien Invasion makes WT unbearable with destruction causing significant fps drops

CL-40 was op not only cause of dmg but it caused low fps due to the particles/destruction

Model 3 shotting a heavy is absolute braindead game design, I can do 245 with KS Winch by the time they 3 shot me

zealous robin
sleek flame
frank gull
#

I still don't think it's an issue, Especially when going against HML if a squad has offense, defense, & support 3 people about to put their gun away really isn't a big issue.

I believe you're top 500 so I won't claim to know your lobbies, but I believe it's the same principle just at a higher level.

#👂┇game-feedback message - @feral shell Defib is only a problem for the uncoordinated, & unprepared.
If you can't "predict" the Defib coming in the next 6 sec it's not even a "skill issue" it's a "Team Issue" HML has always been Meta I.M.O
Unfortunately it's just been hard coming up with new plays/combos because the game is new, intense, & very unforgiving it looks fun, chaotic, & random but actually controlling the arena takes skill, awareness, & a lot of right decisions.
Embark made a sweaty game & some haven't figured it out, & others just want to stomp lobbies because at a certain point there's a clear skill gap when facing High Elo, but removing utility from support again just feeds the greed of players that want to solo squad wipe.
The game already has plenty of counters against Defib.

hazy terrace
#

I Heard next week we would have emerald ak in shop

sonic wigeon
#

The cheaters are back in ranked. Plat+ lobbies are filled with them. Can you fucking fix ur anti-cheat, its so boring. Not worth playing this shit

solar bone
#

Nerf model and pike. It’s pretty lame fighting triple medium on every team…

valid spruce
#

Embark I beg of you, I'm on my knees right now, please change the way the V9S Eclipse Shade is held with the skin. Please use the thumb rest like it's supposed to be 😦

merry loom
#

Alien Invasion should have always been this way.

lofty coyote
dusty totem
#

Thank you embark for failing on keeping your promises and destroying your reputation in 1 day all for a quick buck! Let’s recycle a skin we advertised as ‘exclusive’ and say its an “anti FOMO” measure! Brilliant. Nevermind the fact we sure weren’t against it when we made this promise and managed to keep all other battle pass exclusives (Which they will remain as such) for 4 entire seasons… But hey! If you try to have a discussion about it, we’ll just call it a “made up issue” LOL, Great job!

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past lance
#

The matchmaking is so fkin bad I'm with a bronze and unranked like wtf

sinful trail
#

How can i report a bug? ty @rapid stream

rapid stream
untold haven
#

pls leave the alien invasion event like this

severe hinge
#

It's funny to take out the skin of the pass and sell it. Embark actually "makes money" in this way.

hollow badger
#

nerf m11

mortal notch
#

nerf charge n slam its so fun playing against the i win button @hollow badger dont nerf m11

chilly niche
#

So my teammate who left a game didnt lose points, but i lost points for staying in and trying to win but getting knocked out? dogshit ranking system

shy token
#

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 59)

unreal marlin
#

Game gets laggy from time to time. Seems like it's shader caching.

wicked dragon
#

Server down??

iron bough
#

They buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the "interrupt" one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

red echo
#

maybe add option to increase brightness?

deep summit
#

Adds a more frequent alien invasion event to WT, doesn't fix the destruction = less fps

marsh elm
#

People leaving wt game but i have to wait them to disconnect or i will be banned for leaving please fix this issue

kind condor
#

server down??!
ARE U FUCKING KIDDING ME?!

gritty owl
# delicate basin MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH

As much as I hate the removal of goo planes, its a change that makes sense. Sure, it hasn't been an issue balance wise, atleast in my experience. I don't think I had a single game where someone gained a serious advantage from it. And it was pretty funny seeing a goo plane flying around occasionally.

But as a new/inexperienced player or just a player who doesnt know about the tech, it's very unintuitive. They'll probably assume it's a bug/glitch or that someone is hacking.

delicate basin
ornate junco
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@kind condor Yeah i think ranbked servers are down

pulsar willow
quick coyote
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ITS STILL FOMO IF THEYRE MAKING IT A LIMITED TIME ITEM THEYRE LYING TO YOUR FACE AND YALL ARE GLAZING THEM

sand hazel
# thick sorrel Please Embark just remove the exclusive word from future battlepasses. Holy shit...

your missing the point. this isnt about the word its about the laziness of this entire event. its not new content they are just framing it as such and upping the price tag. not only are they trying to gaslight their player base and going back on their word, they are charging double the cost of the entire S1 bp for one skin set. this is them being greedy this entire season has been greedy. this season bp is mostly reskins and sprays

tropic snow
chrome basin
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Cant wait for this shit game to die. Last fucking minutte. you decide to spawn us across the map but spawn every other team right on top of the cashout. Thats fucking great. THE FUCK ARE THESE SHIT SPAWNS. THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT BALANCING. Holy fuck. No wonder there are only 20k players

fringe schooner
smoky gust
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The changes did make the alien invasion event quit a bit more impactful
I love these fights in/around a house that has a giant hole from top to bottom

Imo it should stay this way

delicate basin
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Why did you guys completely rework goo without any explanation? As a goo gun main I'm so confused.

frank gull
autumn sedge
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Please nerf model thank you very much... if a weapon gains complains from both ranked and casual then you'd think something would be done about it...

blissful smelt
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Sorry BUT I finally changed the GPU with the new update.
Does the game is now even more heavy on the CPU?

Still can't believe how a free to play game can total a 4 core / 8 Thread 4,4GHz cpu with (now) an ok GPU like a RX 6600XT assisting.
Where's the optimisation? Why is it SO DEMANDING?

naive sierra
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Wtf did they do to the 1887 @opal ocean then these people are hacking they shouldnt be able to one shot a full health medium from 20 meters away

opal ocean
mortal notch
graceful snow
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massive performance issues since the recent update. maps not loading, game freezing midfight, had avrg fps of 250 before the patch

dawn anchor
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Original V9S DPS: 265
Fire Rate: 430 RPM (rounds per minute)
Damage per shot: 37

Updated V9S DPS: 240
Fire Rate: 360 RPM (rounds per minute)
Damage per shot: 40

DPS Reduction = 25

If you want to reduce the fire rate while maintaining the damage the weapon does please make the RPM 400. (with 40 damage per shot)

My Preposed V9S Configuration:
RPM: 400
Damage per shot: 40
DPS: 400 * 40 / 60 = ≈ 266.67 (similar to the original DPS)

stiff merlin
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Can we just get more health as a light. Basically every weapon is a 2 shot now and the pike and akimbo I swear are tracking the dash which feels utterly nerfed. A light sprinting is faster than a Light dashing

violet elbow
unborn garnet
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I dont like how they removed the cosmetics for each weeks contract and kept the reward for the entire contract smh

warm compass
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why mid shield cant block light sowrd ????

quick coyote
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Could there a limited time where playing don’t lose any RS if they lose?

delicate basin
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MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH (not talking about plane,)

sterile hamlet
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I don't know if this is a known issue? But the team names on Power Shift have been locked since the beginning of the season. The only two team names that can appear are the Kingfish and The Shock and Awe. We miss The Big Splash! Where are they?

fallow idol
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Plz remove kills w explosions to do damage. Literally impossible

clear rose
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@rare spear I have a pretty cool idea? What if you guys could do an update where the original battle pass owners who got the alien skin in the first place could edit that skin by changing the color?? Similar to what Fortnite did with the skeleton skin where the OG players can make it turn purple. Would that be something you guys could come up with?? Maybe a cyan color only the OG players can wear?? 👽🛸

forest wasp
surreal meadow
bitter acorn
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We need to ability to reroll contracts again because some of the ones you're giving us are SUPER specific or something that's unattainable to the average player. You let us do this in S2, why can't we do it now?

rapid stream
dense marlin
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Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller aka console

brittle obsidian
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buff xp54 maximum damage falloff so its ranged performance is good enough to outshine m11 at a reasonable distance

pliant raptor
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I think a spectator mode in World Tour and Ranked would be neat, after you die. Where you can fly around in free cam or spectate specific players

In fact, a spectator mode overall where you can just join a random game and watch would be kinda neat

sudden tangle
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light is useless in competitive

pulsar willow
somber glade
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Something I think no one speaks of - thermal vision is broken:

  1. When active, doesn't always mark players in white as it should.

  2. When active, you often don't see the enemies' health bars when inflicting damage on them, meaning you have no way of knowing how much damage you've done.

  3. When active, you often don't get the usual notification for an elimination/assist etc.

  4. During night time, upon deactivation, you're temporarily blind for a couple of seconds, seeing nothing but black void. (this might have been done on purpose, I'm not sure.)

All of these issues, though not always, happen very frequently, almost every single time upon activation and while thermal vision is still usable with them, they are definitly a problem.

iron bough
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They buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the "interrupt" one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

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deep summit
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Nerf model
Fix Performance

short dock
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Nerf medium

minor carbon
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Don't nerf model ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

glad ore
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Let us reroll contracts again. The 10 interrupts is so annoying to get! It relies on opponents being bad at the game, since it doesn't count as an interrupt if they voluntarily cancel stealing to return fire or escape.

daring fossil
stiff merlin
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As a person who only enjoys the light class because of it's movement I think it's time to move to another game.

olive fulcrum
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Great job doing something unique in world tour. Keep it up! Custom game rules have limitless potential in this game and could be a strong staple for the game into the future

drifting pawn
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just want to get my word in on it: totally fine with the alien skin being offered. does not harm me in any way that I had to work to unlock it in S1 and it's available for anyone for the same price I had to pay (more since that price was for the whole battle pass and not just that skin).

cerulean musk
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Please, Embark, do something to make the game enjoyable to play. This medium meta with models, revives, and infinite tokens is becoming really bad. I'm playing a game where I'm only facing mediums. It's just me as a light and someone else as a heavy, even in WT. I'm not even play ranked right now, but wtf... There's no fun in always playing against the same thing with no variety in any squad. I love you games but wtf is this in world tour..

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silent fog
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Please fix whatever you messed up with "performance updates and improvements" in the last patch of S3. The performance got way worse, so did crashes.
Every one I talk to has gotten worse performance since that patch.

hexed grove
narrow spade
wet bramble
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hello where can i rep an aimbot player?

delicate basin
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MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH

sterile hamlet
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There's a lot of negativity in this channel usually, so I'd like to praise Embark on a recent thing!

I think the stance Embark has taken when it came to reselling the alien bundle from Season 1 is actually a great thing, and should be an industry standard. When you get it from the battle pass, you spend ten dollars and get numerous other cosmetics! Whereas other people would be paying more than you did for just one of the cosmetics in the Battle Pass. I think the statement you put out reflects the idea perfectly! Monetizing FOMO is a borderline predatory monetization model, and players that join the game later rather than sooner don't get to enjoy those early cosmetics! The mindset of "I had it OG" is for losers, why not let someone else enjoy the same thing you do?

Anyway, good job Embark! I'm lovin' Season 4, you guys are cooking :3

iron bough
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They buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the "interrupt" one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

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prime bane
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As a heavy player, I can only offer feedback on heavy (apart from the obvious like the model and pike being too good)

Buff:
KS - 23 - Accuracy and movement accuracy while aimed in, maybe even the reload speed. The reason for that is because the deagles are better than them in almost every way.

Spear - Alt attack hit registration, make it so that the alt attack can be cancelled too. Perhaps make the lunge distance and tracking better on the spear to make it more offensive than the sledgehammer. Keep in mind that the sledgehammer can break walls down and can be used as a utility tool and not just a weapon. Players need this to do more if you want them to choose it.

M60 - Very small damage increase, perhaps by 1 point. I think it was nerfed too harshly and it feels like a pea shooter now.

SA1216 - Decrease cycle time to next 4 shots slightly. This is only to counteract the model meta. If model were to be nerfed something like this would be OP.

Rework:
MGL32 - Make the grenades it launches explode on impact with barricades, and different kinds of shields. It's too hard of a counter. Reduce the self damage slightly.

Also, I suggest making the grenades blow up on impact with players and reducing damage if this is too busted.

Goo gun - It needs more, make it easier to build defenses with it. Others have suggested pre-made blueprints you could select with it like a goo wall. There could even be a goo floor for anti grav combos or patching up a hole in a ceiling. This would be nice, you could balance this out with cooldowns. The goo gun as it is right now it perhaps the worst heavy specialization and needs something done to it.

Alternatively, you could make the goo it launches different. It could be stickier and used as a tool to trap players.

deep summit
cedar wadi
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Embark let us spectate our friends in game, and perhaps have the option to sit in the same place as the audience🙏🏻

molten mango
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Winning ranked/wt should have tripled fans gains,it shouldn't be treated as a normal quick cash game.

daring fossil
# hexed grove I like how you’re still complaining about the interrupt contract. That one is SO...

I didn't get this contract, but I kill like 5 people stealing per match in quick cash lol.

@deep summit I never had any performance loss at any time between season 1 all the way until patch 3.14. I used to get 165 fps (my cap) on every single map at maxed settings with RT on. After 3.14 I didn't even get 150fps on the main menu and it was like 90-120 fps depending on the map. 2 patches ago made performance a tiny bit better (I hit 165 on the menu again, but not consistently) but still only like 100-130 fps in maps. I don't get any frame drops that I notice during gameplay (even with tonnes of destruction)

cold bolt
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pls add ruby and diamond equivalents of emerald background/wearable badge

and also add card badges for all of those as well

vestal igloo
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cant find a qc in EU💀🤡no players

deep mantle
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Delete defib

distant elbow
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max 120 fov pls

silent fog
# deep summit ^ Didn't think they could make the performance even worse than it is already xD ...

My fps was fine all the way through from OB to S3 until last patch of S3, even on kyoto my fps was fine 90+% of the time. Since the last patch of S3 it's gone to shit. They don't even mention it yet so many people have been replying to me in here saying their performance has gone to shit since that patch as well.
Don't think I've seen a single person say their performance actually improved.
"performance updates and improvements", just another lie by Embark

lyric junco
analog hearth
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nerf sword+dash

sturdy oasis
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When spinning your character in the lobby it'd be fun to see them getting dizzy

floral shoal
mighty ibex
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buff heavy, nerf medium

hexed grove
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Heavy and light are fine. Medium needs a tweak tho.

sharp estuary
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Why the riot shield doesn't block swords attacks?

gritty owl
crisp heart
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Embark you need to add hud safe area already its been 10 months

daring fossil
olive fulcrum
hearty bough
# sharp estuary Why the riot shield doesn't block swords attacks?

Because for whatever reason, embark decided that riot shield needs 6+ hard counters…

Melee definitely needs to be made blockable (at least with riot shield ADS, maybe not with passive blocking), and pyro grenades need to not be a 1 shot kill.

I would also love to see charge and slam be blockable or at least mitigated by riot shield

unreal fossil
drifting obsidian
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Please buff heavy, mesh is unusable and every gun but deagles feels very weak.

analog hearth
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nerf sword+dash

spark shard
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Day 18/100

Change matchmaking for solo players.

I'm pleased with all the changes this season, thank you!

However, the matchmaking has been broken since Season 2. In Season 3, I hardly played ranked because it was TA, which I detest. I thought you were improving matchmaking for Season 4, but the issue continues.

My matchups make no sense, neither in rank nor in dedication, which is clear when I compare my kills and revives with my teammates. Meanwhile, the other teams have players who should be matched with me, but I'm facing them instead.

I’m speaking as a solo player. When can we expect improvements in matchmaking for solo players? It's frustrating we've been stuck like this since Season 2.

Note 1: I've had teammates say in chat they were playing ranked for "fun," as if it’s quick play. This is a bad joke.

Note 2: I don’t mind waiting longer to find a game if it improves the experience. I’d prefer waiting more than 2 minutes than 10 seconds for a team with zero skill.

Note 3: Don’t use the excuse of not changing matchmaking mid-season when you make buffs and nerfs to weapons, gadgets, etc. These also affect gameplay during the season. You’ve had enough time to address it.

Use other game modes for balancing or new weapons testing.

After 4 seasons, it’s clear you don’t fully understand the impact of the changes you make regarding buffs, nerfs, or introducing new items.

Please, before changing anything and making us testers, use non-competitive modes for balancing tests.

Utilize World Tour, Quick Play... for your balancing tests and new items.

deep summit
hexed grove
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Charge and Slam should definitely be adjusted. If it's going to deal so much damage it should have a longer cooldown. If they want to keep the rate the same then they need to decrease damage.

I believe it should be a utility gadget, similar to the RPG. Where you use it for destruction, not kills. Currently it's so braindead to just spam it whenever someone runs out of ammo. The amount of times I've died to that shit is crazy and infuriating since all they do it press Q from an inch away and boom, you're dead.

autumn warren
simple abyss
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Yesterday I jokingly thought of a scenario where limiting the range of hammer may limit reaching some ceilings. Usually that can be negated by using goo or barricade to jump.. however this also means when you smash the floor below. You have to be point way more down or yiu just break the top layer. The bottom layer stays. This is situational. It only affects certain ceilings and floor that have extra layers..not sure if that gamechange mechanic for floors and ceiling destruction is intended

foggy ginkgo
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Embark if you simply made it to where you cant 3 stack one class that would literally fix the mmm meta without completely removing abilities or gadgets. Very simple but effective fix.

molten mango
obtuse ravine
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I love that Embark puts stuff like this as text in game and then when I email them letting them know I only got the silver and emerald rewards for s3, they tell me that their records are correct and i got my rewards lol. never got all the rewards and they refuse to do anything about it. like yeah i got the emerald stuff but, skipping out on the Multi bucks + gold tier stuff from s3 is lame

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iron bough
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They buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the "interrupt" one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

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violet elbow
misty jasper
sharp bolt
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they need to have a meeting with top ranked players and really listen to them. It'd be a gold mine of useful feedback. Do it on twitch, on YouTube, idc. Just meet with them and listen. Listen and implement. Or at least acknowledge this channel and interact with us here . There's is nothing but silence here from embark

remote verge
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why am i going againt people with 7x my wins, what is this matchmaking

clever gyro
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I was feeling a bit underwhelmed by the Halloween update, but I'm hopeful that next weeks Trick or Treat will bring some more

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autumn sedge
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Please make CnS not be able to one-shot mediums

upper citrus
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Nerf the model

silent fog
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Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

rotund rock
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Idea for better fan acquisition: Hype multiplier. If during a match, you were the highest scoring of any of the metrics (highlighted in yellow at the end of a match) you get a 5% (or how much ever is appropriate). So, if you get highest support and objective, you get 10% fan boost. I you get all 7 categories, 45% boost. This would be a great dopamine boost and honestly more rewarding and faster than the current grindy-feeling career progression

broken shore
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Please stop giving me penalties because I refuse to play with uneven teams, its no fun to stare at a respawn screen because every other team has more players

drifting pawn
quick coyote
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please ad 1 sniper per team rule. especially in powershift it just ridiculous! 4 snipers on enemy team spread over the map, i cant go f anywhere without being sniped at

versed cloud
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All mines should be a 1 shot with any gun. They shouldn't have health preset, that's ridiculous.

woeful patio
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i have really low fps and laggy spikes after last update

lilac coral
iron bough
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They extra triple mega buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the “interrupt” one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

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warm cliff
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This game needs a tdm or capture the flag game mode 10v10 team

tribal spoke
distant sluice
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Day 9000 of asking the devs to fix team spawning:

A team should not spawn 20m away from your on going cashout

Teams should not spawn in front of you while you have vault

delicate basin
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MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH

drifting pawn
# distant sluice **Day 9000 of asking the devs to fix team spawning:** A team should not spawn 2...

bro THIS. you have no idea how many times my crew have wiped a team (sometimes two or even THREE times while defending a cashout) only for them to spawn RIGHT in front of us as we're moving to the next vault. It's mind blowing how awful the spawn logic is. More often than not we end up annihilating them because they don't even realize where it spawned them or that we're already in their faces. It must be excruciatingly annoying from that side.

dreamy ore
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KEEP NERFING THE LIGHT PLEASE

storm inlet
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NERF THE MODEL OMFG

uneven dagger
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The changes to sledgehammer are great, would like to see some for dual blades too 😊

Glad they also made the headshot contract easier, would be nice if they could also look at the “interrupt” contract 😊

We should talk more about the sponsorship grind, I feel as though it is a little long and a bit odd in terms of acquiring fans 😊

Great work embark, have a nice day 😊😊😊

spare pagoda
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Your game ID should be linked with your Steam account, like it used to be in Season 1, most of the people I suspected as hackers had their profiles flagged for previous reports from people, I got like 4 or 5 during that time, now every hacker I find in game simply has the default ahh name like AwesomeFrog or EpicSniper

surreal meadow
olive fulcrum
naive sierra
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WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DROP MERCH IM SUPPOSD TO STUDY FOR MY IMPENDING EXAMS BUT NOW I HAVE TO GET A JOB TO BUY THE MERCH @iron bough get a life lil bro.
very sigma @uneven dagger
@quick coyote if you dont want non sweaty teammates dont play casual

abstract ravine
silent fog
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Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

fervent vortex
sharp estuary
quick coyote
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why anytime i go random matchmaking im matchmaked with morons? i dont even wanna play anything else but powershift in random anymore because its so horrible but then in powershift you get f%**%d the whole time to bc youre team is a bunch of brainfarts and 3 people in the enemy team are constantly sniping. please finally do something about the matchmaking please do something about the sniper problem please finally nerf the model its been a meta since season 1 please stop ignoring these things please stop chasing people away from this game bc more and more of my friends are leaving bc they dont see the point in playing the finals anymore

delicate basin
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MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH

But for real why is their no official statement? You just said "goo plane bad bye bye" and then removed every single goo interaction.

tall summit
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anyone have any idea as to how to fix my pc shutting off when precompiling shaders I only have this issue in The Finals and I dont want to jump the gun on new hardware if its just this one game giving me issue

rough storm
vivid axle
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spear hit detection is ass, please fix

sullen berry
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Add HUD opacity slider and HUD centering for ultra wide monitors, it’s easy to implement and so useful for oled enjoyers to avoid burn in

tawny oriole
rapid stream
iron bough
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They extra triple mega buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the “interrupt” one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

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hexed terrace
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They extra triple mega buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the “interrupt” one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

proven crown
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I HATE coming up against melee weapons like sledge and light sword. The animations look SO broken so you can't tell wtf is happening and nobody likes it except the few that play it??

limpid bluff
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Rework heal beam and make medium go slow af when they charge defibrilator

quick coyote
# proven crown I HATE coming up against melee weapons like sledge and light sword. The animatio...

To be fair for me the melee is what makes this game fun... Most first person shooters basically rely on you being really good at aiming, the finals is the only game where I can be bad at mouse accuracy but still be useful for my friends and have fun with the right positioning and spacing using melee. It's true that the animations and the way hitboxes work is a bit weird, but for me the positives far outweigh the negatives.

clear crown
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could we get an headshot indicator in the killfeed pls i need to know if i hit heads with da bow :)

zealous schooner
soft meteor
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Please revert the changes to the AK and reduce the FCAR’s recoil and the skill-checked people will stop crying about the model 1887. They will cry about the AK or the FCAR instead, give them two things to cry about instead of one.

covert yacht
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How can EMBARK not see the problem in the game right now when all lobbys are dominated by medium all of them using the same shit and we still cant seem to get a single balance change to model it is boring and i want to know why they just cant seem to do a simple change it would make it so all people happy and have some diversity in the classes that are being played

deep summit
floral shoal
silent fog
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Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

upper citrus
paper oak
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kill the game, aint worth to play

delicate basin
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MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH

lilac solstice
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bro in the beta the MOVEMENT made you ACTUALLY MOVE. u got a boost in speed once u hit a slide. which made it feel like titanfall 2. i also liked the fact that if u sent a vault flying into the station at the last second u would secure it instantly giving the potential for CRAZY plays!

One time my friend yeeted a vault across the map GOT IT IN and it WON US THE GAME. that for us WAS PEAK FINALS.
and we sent a cashout flying into an enemy... KILLING THEM!!!

and for some reason although embark said they will bring patches to aid in performance, to me it seems that the performance keeps on getting worse cuz in the beta i was getting steady 100 fps 120 max and NOW?? im getting sometimes max 80. but average 60 fps and below with massive drops in frames every time a load into the match

unkempt aspen
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embark fix ur game im stuttering every 10 sec in wt

undone swallow
nimble kiln
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wait true

torpid sky
brittle obsidian
finite galleon
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that's so true wtf

rough storm
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Double the first respawn timer cuz its rediculous the team you just completely rekked have the high ground on the cashout before you even arrive.

pliant dragon
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Add an option to have a separate Background and Border for each Contestant Slot

near parcel
dim forge
violet elbow
distant sluice
# lilac solstice bro in the beta the MOVEMENT made you ACTUALLY MOVE. u got a boost in speed once...

movement feels like it was purposefully slowed. Mantling feels like it takes ages. It feels horrible compared to beta. And they have intentionally made it hard to pick up objects right after placing an object. I dont get why they purposefully hurt the movement of this game when its what made it so popular.

In other news:

Day 15151 of asking embark to actually fix team spawning this time

A team should not spawn 20m away from your ongoing cashout 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

A team that just got wiped on the other first vault should not spawn 20m away from you on the cashout after you just fought for the first vault and won. 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

You should not be able to wipe a team, pick up the vault, and then by the time you walk 100m to the cashout they spawn on that cashout. 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

You should not be able to spawn 150m away from your own cashout while other teams can spawn 20m from it 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

Teammates should not be able to spawn more than 150m away from each other when coining 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

Teams should not be able to spawn right next to your whole tean in general. 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

In the final round or on moving platforms, spawning is even more broken. TEAMS SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SPAWN ON TOP OF YOUR CASHOUT. 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

WHY IS THIS EVEN SOMETHING WE SHOULD EVEN HAVE TO ASK TO HAVE FIXED???????????? 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

sonic spoke
worthy needle
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sledge got overall nerf in my opinion

sullen berry
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Add HUD opacity slider and HUD centering for ultra wide monitors, it’s easy to implement and so useful for oled enjoyers to avoid burn in

lime quail
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The cheating is out of hand. I have so many teammates quitting now!

royal gust
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Respawns are crazy. I spawn 150m away and the other team just spawns under my cashout after we wipe them? Some teams have 10 tries on my cashout. Its weird. Just be fair and let the other team spawn 150m away like my team too?

quick lichen
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I greatly appreciate that all the intro videos are skippable, could we add a way of replaying them? as a streamer sometimes I want to show those extra videos off, but if I opened the game earlier in the day I lose the video.

unreal zodiac
minor notch
daring musk
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fix bug where if you use the spear it will randomly occur that you cant hit or use the spin for around 6-10 seconds

rotund moat
#

Is duskvane the OSPUZE champion?

shadow rain
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Good

iron bough
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They extra triple mega buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the “interrupt” one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

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verbal sinew
mental gate
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Found a visual bug that might confuse some people:
If you have your effects graphics setting set to anything but medium, things work fine, however when it's medium, you won't be able to detect players invisible even when they are moving. To test it out, go to practice range and set effects to medium (don't believe any other setting affects this) and try to see your weapon when cloaked and moving.

crystal cave
#

Please give a skin variant for those who grinded out season 1. It’s bull embark

deep summit
#

Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

long reef
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Engine update, they'll take a while to get it back to where it was, and then bring us the "major performance enhancements" we were promised a bit before season 4 launch

dusty igloo
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Change the hammer right click swing to 20% or 15%, something like that. It seems the damage ends slightly too early.

finite galleon
gilded sage
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Havent played much this season as promised. Hopefully medium isnt the only class when i come back for S5. People were right about S1 and S2 being the honeymoon phase, especially since a lot of the fun has been taken out for mediums favor.

Great game while it lasted but i’ll probably play a couple games a season at this nerf rate.

delicate basin
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Please don't add frag indicators

hexed terrace
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Why isn't there a visual avertissement for grenades ?
I'm saying that because it's just nothing but frustating for everyone but mostly for lights

torpid sky
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for every class not just lights
add frag nades indicators

silent fog
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Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

frank gull
#

Grapple having 2 charge might be too much, but consider allowing it to stack a extra Half charge. Typically 1 is enough, however in high pressure situations the 2nd grapple couldn't come fast enough, or you used the 1st for mobility, or you accidentally hit something you didn't intend to and now you have to wait, being that you only have 1 I don't think it should be such a long wait. It's too unforgiving I.M.O.
Having to wait 5 seconds instead of 10 in case of a misfire could still be balanced

Dash may just need a Revert, or extra range per dash not sure which would be best for combat

Cloak players should be completely invisible when crouched I.M.O

Cosmetics:
Level up hands on revive like equipment

Hear me out, this just might give people motivation to actually stick a hard res. When in Solo Q , or 3 stack i see ALOT of players make the mistake of not prioritizing a res, or just leaving it up to a Defib, despite player having potential to stick a res.
If the last 24 hours have thought us anything is that gamers really like ugly skins. Level 5 - 8 Hands will change the game. Think about it. 🙏🏽
If players got a reward or had something to grind towards players might have more incentive to stick a hard res aside from winning the game obviously.

Also there's 3 gloves in the game that are only on your left hand, *When wearing *those allowing the left instead of right become your dominant hand when reviving would be a great update.

Edit: 3 Gloves & 1 diamond ring. magnifyegg

🗣️📣 Embark I hope you actually read these messages because the Heal B. Still lacking skins when leveling up.
I know you're struggling to balance the specialization, but that's no reason to ignore & neglect the device
Still missing Lvl 5 (White) & Lvl 8 skin.

rough storm
#

Nerf model

mossy karma
#

Nerf model

sharp arrow
brisk tangle
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Why is everyone suddenly mad at the model???? wasnt that an untouched weapon since like season 1????

WHY IS IT A PROBLEM NOW?

Ask for better stuff ffs, like idk, balance lights to be more about team play rather than braindead TDM playstyle.

quick lichen
round hornet
# brisk tangle Why is everyone suddenly mad at the model???? wasnt that an untouched weapon sin...

The model is a problem because it has survived untouched from season one, where things were at their most unbalanced.

Light has plenty of teamplay potential. Stun gun, glitch grenades and especially gateways have enormous value in team fights. But medium naturally also has a ton of support, being the support class, while holding onto better versions of light's best weapons (Model to m26 matter, pike 556 to lh1) so they've just been forced off the stage.

cosmic yew
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Does anyone else have issues with some characters not populating on store pages and such?

zealous schooner
delicate basin
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MAKE GOO GREAT AGAIN. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE STOLEN THE GOO TECH, I'm so freaking glad people stopped complaining about alien skin that shit was so annoying

nova solar
#

Adding back multi-hit to the sledgehammer’s overhead attack now that the sweep duration was reduced makes the return of multi-hit make sense, if the light’s sword can multi-hit why can’t the sledgehammer also 👉👈

#it’sbalancednow
(also the model needs a nerf🫤)

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hidden crow
#

please change the matchmaking

silent fog
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Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

violet elbow
#

hire a balancing team please

glacial storm
#

light bulb flashbang skin

lean tree
#

NERF THE MODEL

rough storm
proven parcel
#

pike is broing buff fcar

signal shard
#

I have been playing almost daily, so far i reached 39k fans, compared to the battlepass progress this is so slow and i suspect that i could even complete the sponsorship

Think about the casuals, they probably got way lower amount of fans, this doesn’t look good at all

primal frost
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i don't get the goo nerf, why are people stuck in goo able to shoot at me, while i can't shoot them back?
i used to use the goo gun to approach lights shooting at me, but now they can just keep shooting and kill me
pls revert 😢

wise falcon
#

Why do I have to pay $16.90 for 1150 Multibucks when my friend only has to pay 9.99...? Seems pretty sketchy to me but not too surprising from embark. I must have shared my opinion too much.

minor notch
#

Do you live in New Zealand or smth? Currency exchange might be the reason

versed eagle
#

PLEASE GIVE ARROW INDICATOR FOR FRAG GRENADAS THANKS

jaunty fern
winter sun
#

matchmaking's so bad that it makes me not want to play anymore tbh

cold bolt
terse lark
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yo Embark you guys need to get a guy to be coming up with new gadgets and specializations around the clock. bc until proven otherwise you guys are running short on ideas (please prove me wrong). and God knows this community ain't coming up with any good ideas

brisk tangle
cosmic yew
delicate basin
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So uhhh, revert goo please 😽 Also don't add frag indicators.

surreal meadow
# torpid sky for every class not just lights add frag nades indicators

"erm no dont add frag indicators, even tho this game struggles to appeal to casuals - we shouldnt do it because my main tactic is picking on lower elo players 🤡 "

where the fuck is frag indicators embark, you said this was a casual game yet we still havent seen any casual appeal (2 team gamemodes like powershift, literally TDM or 5v5 Cash and its free playercount - frag indicators - noob only gamemodes) nor player retention (200000 > 20000)

silent fog
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Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.
Nerf model and pike.

deep summit
#

Nerf model
Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

sullen berry
#

HUD opacity slider

HUD opacity slider

HUD opacity slider

HUD opacity slider

Please!

And revert goo changes

rose verge
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serious question is this game being run off a 1990's dell laptop cause every fucking game has horrendous ping and embark doesnt even let us view our ping to see just how horrendous it is, fucking get your shit together or your trash game will continue to fall off in player count with each season

stoic roost
#

Worst Halloween update fr, cant play without the aliens destroying my frames because of how frequent they are

zealous schooner
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its not the aliens, its the buildings collapsing thats straining the servers and framerates in my game specifically, if only the aliens’ attacks and beams are causing framerate issues alone for you, thats not good 😭

neon burrow
#

Suggestions for the rumored MGL rework;

Personally I think the weapon itself as it is, is a good idea like the concept itself however the issues really show up with the close n personal scenarios along with elevations.

The Alt fire is merely a zoom in which is ok but in reality I think it would work best as a impact explosion

Meaning the Primary Fire remains the same while the Secondary becomes an impact nade, thus eliminating the issue of having people up your bum and being essentially defenseless.

Alternatively it could be sticky explosive that explode after some time, as to avoid having Cl40 with 1 more shot.

Also its troll as hell that it does 83 dmg since 3 impact shots on a medium will make em take 249 dmg at the expense of 50% of the mag, give it that 1 extra for the treshold uwu

azure rock
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Do you guys experience frame rate issues and lag spikes when playing on ps5? I’ve done both Ethernet and WiFi and still experience lag, my WiFi has gigabit speeds so I’m unsure why there’s any issues to begin with. Is it an optimization issue or something on my end?

remote verge
rough storm
#

Nerf MODEL 1887
And double respawn timer of the 2 teams that get wiped first

hexed terrace
#

Please do something about matchmaking why do i have to beat emerald when i'm silver

simple abyss
#

I don't understand why sledghehammer got such a huge nerf. You can't even properly break a hole under you to go down one level without two swings. And sometimes you have to crouch. Fix this please embark. Change the range back

iron bough
#

They extra triple mega buffed Sledgehammer and haven't touched dual blades. 🤡

They made the headshots contract easier, but left the “interrupt” one unchanged. 🤡

They haven't talked about how trash and grindy the sponsorship is or how atrocious and inconsistent the fans system feels 🤡

Embark are you hiring clowns now? 🤡🤡🤡

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patent stirrup
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WT suggestion: skill-based matchmaking
I cannot enjoy playing WT when every lobby i play has top 200 players while im struggling to climb in gold. It is incredibly unincentivizing and demotivating to queue when my competition stomps me and you cant get decently rewarded.

delicate basin
#

Goo bad now. Me want old goo. Me angry

deep summit
#

Nerf model
Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

frank holly
quick coyote
#

Rank needs a rework I win 6 times and get to gold 1 from 2. loose 2 matches go back to gold 4 maybe gold 3 1/4 way more annoying when i get bronze or silver teammates

unique wasp
#

+1 on performance being way worse recently (at least since the start of season 4.) I regularly freeze up entirely for a few seconds at a time which never really happened before this.

harsh whale
#

right after s4 dropped kyoto/vegas hit my frames HARD, on a xbox series x
its not nearly as bad as it was tho

clear crystal
#

if we played a ton of finals we should get a guaranteed arc raiders key as thanks

lilac solstice
sand hazel
upper citrus
brittle obsidian
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why do people cite the model not being nerfed since S1 as a good thing? S1 was the least balanced state the game ever was, where ttk across the board was way lower and oneshot strats were rampant. the fact the model avoided nerfs means that its still absurdly busted, and should be brought in line with the other medium primaries.

hidden crow
# hidden crow please change the matchmaking

I only get contestants from ground levels, why? I don't want to stop playing, but it's frustrating that with 1000 hours I only lose in ranked because of people who don't even know how to aim.

silent fog
#

Please fix whatever you messed up in patch 3.14.
The "performance update and improvements" you did in that patch made performance way worse for what seems to be most people.

compact acorn
#

Who wants to play

fathom bear
#

I understand this is easier said than done but maybe promote variation in classes in a single team facing a full team of mediums is all I've been facing for the past week and more and it's always the same loadout defibs and healing beam and it feels like fighting a hydra kill one and other just pops right back up it's not a fun experience seeing at least 2 whole teams using this tactic in your game over and over again

delicate basin
#

If heavy is not allowed mobility, why are mediums allowed destruction?

old minnow
#

Dagger
Make it so you have to be standing right behind them and looking at their back and it automatically charges it and you can’t hold it while it’s charging it disable cloaking and it takes 0.3 seconds to charge but immediately discharges as soon as you look away from their back while charging and stabbing, you cannot use any specializations

2.Cloaking device
Instead of using the duration of the specialization when you activated, it takes 40% when you deactivate it When you cloak, you are completely invisible while standing still and crouch, walking and slowly walking, but you become more visible. If you take damage, this makes it easier for people to find lights this would finally make it valuable in high tier ranked and it would not be overpowered it would actually be balanced for once

(For context, the normal dagger charge is 0.8 seconds)

jagged cedar
modest lotus
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count the frame if you want. he was dead for almost a third of a seconds and somehow stole it. fix this shit for comp at least there is no way this should be happening

lean tree
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#Day3 NERF Model. It is not normal that when you got minimal amount of DMG on you, one guy comes in and shoots you dead with one bullet... It is literally insane every game there is like 4/5 model players. You nerf every weapon in the game expect the model. People have been asking a nerf since season 3

still marsh
#

pumpkin headwear being 800 when its not even part of a bundle doesnt seem right when other standalone legendary headgears are worth 600-650

wintry trout
#

why is there no post-game survey option for "enemy team had a cheater"
because that's the most common complaint I have when the survey decides to pop up

verbal moat
#

No reason model should do almost as much damage as the hammer's light attack. Also the dash for light makes the hammer and winch obsolete

radiant eagle
#

make the game less of a grind fest theres no way im finishing the sponsorship rewards in 49 days especially with some of the impossible challenges

red arch
#

buff fcar pls

limpid sky
#

adding the alien back was amazing

formal sphinx
#

Please can the audio be fixed so that team mates running in front of me don’t sound like they’re behind me?

simple hull
#

the pike randomly hits up right from the sight

rough storm
#

Buff model

cyan axle
zealous scarab
#

fix the typo " traverse 30 times using your or teamates placeable items " sounds so silly and overlooked.

delicate basin
#

goo is so bugged right now please fix

neon kettle
#

please get rid of the interrupt someone stealing cashout, it's so frustrating, or at least make it count when they stop stealing when we shot

nocturne tendon
#

Sword + dash is most OP

shadow stirrup
#

the entirety of embark studio is a rag-tag team of not-so-capable garage developers. This game has such a great premise, but zero talent behind it. They got the third stringers to work on it

uneven dagger
lost talon
#

Kyoto is way worse than the vanilla maps both in optimization and gameplay and @nocturne tendon yes that seems too strong

quaint forge
#

Buff ks accuracy so it can match against other weapons