👂┇game-feedback

[charred seal]

🤣🤣🤣True or use an Aimbot and hit all headshots lmao.

[solid yacht]

CL40 CRINGE IS BACK

[long void]

I shouldn’t have to restart my game every 2 rounds to try and not get frame drop.

[quiet jay]

Who really likes defibs? I do it reminds me of blowing a dude and nothing makes me feel better than that.

[night vortex]

this shit here

[livid epoch]

Can there please be a way to view multiple customizations on your character before buying them, it would be awsome to have a way to make sure cosmetics look good together before buying them.

[silk shadow]

As a defib main, i think defibs are in an ok spot. could definitely be stronger with how annoying the cl-40 is moving the trophy. and also i think its annoying when i rez my teammate doesnt have any bullets sometimes, makes me really sad. but us true and true defib players will ride out this season as embark keeps fighting the good fight. if theres one thing us defib players have in common, nothing is better than reviving your teammate and getting fresh waft of their musky unwashed mancocks, so we can power through season 4

[turbid stirrup]

what the CL 40????

[latent wharf]

Gotta fix the amount lost for ranked. If my game crashes or I get disconnected in any way not only will I be given a suspension but I will lose 1000+ RS because I disconnected on top of what I lose for losing the game once I do reconnect. I played a lot of games today, won about 4, lost 2 gained an overall profit of around 2000 RS, totaling about 34,000. I then qued into 1 game, my game then crashed, I reconnected with a minute left, we lost in last place, Lost 1,200, and then when i re-checked my RS amount it was about 1,200 even lower. So from 1 game because I disconnected from it, I lost 2,400 RS, I am now sitting lower then I was if I hadn't played at all, simply because of a crash. To say the least its very disheartening to have all my progress from hours and hours of really good playing to be wiped away due to (maybe a bug) or even an intended feature. Its also worth noting that this has happened to me before, just less amount loss (around 1,500 the time before, for the exact same reason) If this is a bug, any way to resolve the issue and get my RS back? If not, why make it this way, its not my fault I got dissconected, so why should I be punished so harshly? Overall, ranked this season Is a lot better of a system. But If stuff like this keeps happening I can't see myself going on the grind for Ruby if I can be set back a whole day by 1 game.

[finite galleon]

this season release is miserable

[sleek coral]

50 headshots at 50 or more meters is so unreasonable I don't want to use precision weapons in general and even when I do, at that range I'm going for body shots

[long void]

Take Kyoto off rotation until the frame issue is fixed 🙏

[quartz cedar]

Nerf CL-40

Also fix whole massive buildings breaking just by destroying a single wall or two

[fading ginkgo]

Fr

[thin heart]

small QOL suggestion, more forgiving right click accuracy for demat would be appreciated

[simple prairie]

unpopular opinion, but i think the classes that can heal/revive or shield/tank shouldn't do comparable damage as lights

[wraith orchid]

Dagger Wishlist:

-You shouldnt be able to climb while charging the dagger, i try so often to backsab someone above me but instead of jumping and stabbing, it tries to climb and my charge gets canceled (VERY IMPORTANT THIS WAS NOT ABLE TO HAPPEN LAST SEASON SO I ASSUME YOU JUST FORGOTT TO PROGRAM IT RIGHT)
-Option to hold and tap backstab like with the throwing knifes
-Always being able to run as last season
-Add a visual indicator of when the backstab is charged
-Remove the audio indicator cus it sounds terrible and you cant hear it mid fight at all.
REVERT THE DASH COOLDOWN NERF

Sniper Wishlist:
raise hitscan range or reverg the nerf completely and just ban the weapon from powershift.

Light Wishlist:
Balance it so that it can make up for the less hp. While burst weapons can benefit from hit and run, you are allways as vulnerable as the m/h/l enemy when using machineguns/pistols

[opaque moth]

Season themed around fantasy/magic. Medieval castle map, wizards (maybe magic gadgets/specializations?), swords/crossbows, etc. I think it'd be great. And it's a VR game show, they could add anything!

[solid yacht]

WORST FOOTSTEP AUDIO

[sleek coral]

A tower shield and sword for riot shield would be really cool

[odd ibex]

💥Auto cross for heavy and u can climb on top of the bolts https://youtu.be/LN1j3w0zchU?si=7g8onmgiaC2Qs8Fs

[lament surge]

hopefully someone from Embark sees this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1fpxx6t/diamond_ruby_and_emerald_rewards_could_be_tokens/

[narrow spade]

Light often feels too squishy. If I'm in a team fight and it turns into a 1v1 against medium or heavy, it's very difficult to win that 1v1. If I've taken any damage before hand I can't really wait for the regen or else they could res, and even then I'm still starting that gunfight down 100 HP in comparison. Maybe a small buff to lights regen time or health could help solve some of these issues. I think the issue has been especially noticable recently with the cl40

[sullen wolf]

What are you talking about?!? a buff to the lights regen? It’s already at like 7 seconds

[umbral stratus]

Heavy should get smoke grenades 🥸

[ebon isle]

This is wha i tried telling here yesterday and people just told me to get good, the system is way too punishing thats why the mark of top 10k is gold 3

[dawn valve]

Nerf the glitch mine, it disproportionately disadvantages lights. Lights HEAVILY depend on their abilities to survive and just negating that gets lights killed 10/10 times. The time it takes to find and destory the mine you're already dead with your 150 health.

[real gate]

[marble crane]

FIX TFGE0003

[rapid sequoia]

that'd be great ^^

[unreal zodiac]

sonar grenades are destroyable bruh

[frigid path]

SAY WHAT, since when?

[torpid sky]

only by explosives i believe

[minor notch]

Data reshaper

[eternal kayak]

Can shooting and gun skill be rewarded more in close quarters. It seems like close quarters (which is most important in this game seeing the positions of objectives) can be quickly over run by melee and gadgets. There’s counters to being shot like swords that deflect bullets or wenching/charge n slam if you’re being shot but there’s not much a person can really do if they’re guarding a cashout and a riot shield guy walks in the room for example. We need hard counters to melee and I’ve been suggesting one since season one. At bare minimum there should be push back if shot will using melee either that or when shot while running with melee it stops your run or something. I shouldn’t be able to continuously shoot as you sprint full speed towards me. Melee should be something for the most skillful players but in this game it seems like an escape route for ppl who can’t really aim or shoot to still get kills.

[molten rover]

HI there will there be any performance patch? I did not play for few months I came back after the engine update and the finals is not playable anymore - 15-60 fps when explosions smokes ect 3-6fps constantly. I changed all my settings to lowest same thing, other games works perfectly fine only the finals.

[rose basin]

nerf cl-40 and pike. buff fcar and shields

[round goblet]

Lobby 10/10 grenade launcher M spamming like turds who has 0 aim skill and still overrun the lobby. Charge n'slam, Stun Gun, CL-40 non-existent self-dmg and that cancerous Pike and your complaining in melee? Braindead take, range here is the strongest atm. Even Sword needs muscle memory and requires high reflexes but can be tracked unless your really close to it, or hammer need high ambushing gamesense to punish range players. Legit hard counters of melee is stun gun and goo grenade, period. It's called melee and range for a reason, and you should be punished accordingly

[restive crow]

Why are there so many cheaters in the compitetive

[last mirage]

with M & H melee you are handicapping yourself and ultimately your team for utility. because with melee you are relying on your gadgets/specialization in order to bring you closer to the fight or setting defenses up to hold your position, because you ride or die under your area of influence. The thing is, is that any sort of gadget or specialization that could be good for melee, can be better for ranged. H winch is good with the 50. cal and ks-23 to land a body shot followed by close ranged combat. Using sledgehammer with the winch is ok for picks, however it can be hard countered with L having a dash. these problems do not happen when you use any sort of gun. RPG was such a good damage booster that everyone ran it 24/7. now that RPG is balanced for ranged, melee doesn't have enough chip damage at times to rush the enemy before they kill you. dome shield was used a ton for H that with the recent nerfs to it, it kicked out any sort of use for H melee. Medium has movement utility to close the distance, but cant kill them fast enough when they are in range. buffing the melee weapons would make them a better melee heavy. So my proposition is to give Medium and Heavy a secondary. something that is not needed for ranged M & H, but something that melee users would be able to access to do chip damage/use in firefights. pyro in tf2 had a short-medium ranged secondary and that is what made them have value whenever they are not charging at you blindly. so maybe give H & M a M1911 or a Remington Elliot 4 shot pistol. it shouldn't kill every class with the entire clip, it should do like 65% of a M health bar. make it so that quick swapping to the secondary when your magazine is empty becomes very slow (there needs to be a punishment for trying to sustain more damage when you run out of bullets in the primary. otherwise it would still be good for ranged players like M.) also make it so that you only have a clip of ammo and it has to be regenerated like tracking dart.

[woven hawk]

Want to thank you all again for making frag grenades easier to detect

It's been months since some of these changes but I'm still very appreciative my (unnoticed) deaths to them have immensely decreased.

[tropic root]

you have to work for it.

[sleek coral]

But i want to shoot people with my shotgun

[random pine]

Rank grinders are quitting the game after reaching plat because of how many hackers there are in the game, please do something about them. Thanks

[tall kernel]

Loving season 4! Thanks embark for a sick ass game. Buff the 93r that thing is useless. And the dual blades

[odd ibex]

For medium class

replace medium cl40 with this long range explosive bow(with slight delay) cause medium with that much health(plus turret) shouldn’t spam explosive like that so with bow(with long range sight) u need good aim,it’s long range and still good damage to be viable or rework cl40 to be sticky grenade with delay

Or just give these ideas to light class cause it has no explosive weapons

https://youtu.be/KkJdzj_mKHw?si=M9YToYhhAvbimbOM

[split wasp]

Some suggestions.

1. footsteps need to always make noise
2. Frag grenades need a noise or beep.
3. model needs to do 110 damage, reduce range/ increase spread.
4. CnS needs a delay, but if it succeeds the user gains damage reduction./
   cannot be hit more than once with CnS.
5. dash melee light needs a rework or adjustment. no more backstabs from the face, no more 140 sword lights.
6. revert APS nerf.
7. Give Medium sonar grenade.
8. MGL32 needs to explode on contact with an enemy.
9. revert mesh shield nerf.
10. revolver drastic hipfire buff, slight firing speed increase.
11. revert AK bullet nerf.
12. give AK and Fcar the Famas sight.
13. dual swords buff 3rd strike damage, allow full movement speed while deflecting.
14. fire damage needs a buff across the board.
15. give glitch mines an extra 2m.
16. give defibrillator an extra 10s cooldown.
17. turret needs a turn speed increase, and to not stop shooting enemies until line of sight is broken. no more running around a turret and having it lose you.
18. increase heal rate to 45, then remove heal beam stacking.
19. dome shield can protect for 8 seconds.
20. refine sledgehammer heavy attack to not linger after a missed strike.
21. spear alt attack to be a bubble of damage around him that pulses and guarantees damage to enemies inside avoiding missing people next to him.
22. KS23 reload speed increase/ allow headshots.
23. goo gun alt fire to full auto/ megaburst of goo.
24. drastic M60 hipfire buff.

[real gate]

[finite galleon]

you can't backstab from the face

[eternal kayak]

Just because there are other things to be fixed doesn’t mean there isn’t an issue here. My entire point is about controlling the flow of the game where it matters most which is in and around cashout especially in those last crucial moments. Having one single thing that only one class can use is quite literally not a hard counter. Instead that would be a soft counter. Every class has something they can do to directly counter being shot at but there’s no universal direct counter to melee situations in close quarters. Most often the only option you’re left with is repositioning and approaching the fight from a new angle. Pyro grenades aren’t even as effective as they should be. I understand melee is melee but ultimately being shot should do something to someone running at you with a sledgehammer. It’s like if you choose to use a regular bullet shooting gun in this game when it comes to being caught in closer quarters you have to do everything everyone else does plus have superior movement with the exception of the few insanely fast ttk guns on light. Yes there are plenty of other issues like the CL40 being over tuned. I never felt the stun gun was that bad I almost always come out successful against it unless there are two lights. It seems we agree on the charge n slam tho. Everything you claim is skills of melee are just universal skills in FPS so idk what you’re talking about there. In short, my point still remains balancing as it is relates to the various weapon types needs to be looked at and not just in general but specifically how things are balanced within close quarters needs to be worked on because this game revolves around close quarters. Almost everything that happens at mid to long range is irrelevant due to revives and respawns the close quarters battles are what win games.

[daring fossil]

second game using the pike, its kinda stupid completely invalidates the revolver and the only reason to use an LH1 now is to counter it at range.

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[storm inlet]

nerf that no skill cl40 next update please

[lone edge]

Why do I have error code TFLA0020? I have already reinstalled game, but the error appears again, i use VPN, but before new season game was working, but after update it isn’t

[jagged cedar]

I want you to go into the practice range and try backstabbing someone without being behind them

[keen shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/bom-dia-cachorro-tico-gif-6032791887686626526

[fluid drum]

Embark fix ur game and actually have skilled match making in world tour

[spiral jetty]

When are they going to fix the framerate drops? Season 1-3 it still dropped by a bit, but nothing like this season.I'm getting drops to the 20s in some instances.

[drifting thistle]

can confirm there no improvement in anticheat

[jagged axle]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-walter-walter-white-meme-meme-gif-10014012475133169537

[daring fossil]

I probably have like half a dozen clips of me staring someone directly in the face for longer than a second and then dying from their backstab.

@ionic saddle you choose "other" and then type throwing/griefing in the info...

[frail maple]

hell you can. it is some stupid glitch

[finite galleon]

you can't, go ahead and try

try it then and show me @proper chasm

[ionic saddle]

Add a fucking report channel or do literally anything to actually punish griefers and throwers. There's no reason to have a report option for spamming and not have anything for throwing/griefing

[proper chasm]

Yes you can

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[naive fulcrum]

#video-player-reports

[torpid sky]

now send 1 clip from practice range of u backstabbing someone whos staring directly at your face for longer than a second

[mossy tinsel]

When you start firing your gun, the scope and aiming point don't match. This issue is more noticeable since the optics patch. I don't know if this is a maintenance issue or an unfixable bug, but it's been happening since beta, and it's irritating. Please fix it.

[delicate star]

bro grenade launcher is too op no damage to the user

[smoky basin]

Pls add an option that allow us to choose with who do matchmaking like if I’m on PS5 a can chose Xbox , PC or both

[opaque moth]

yes i want some dark souls drip

[feral adder]

Isn’t there already a crossplay option?

[tacit patrol]

Legit not playing because CL40 feels like shit to play against, ruined the fun for me.

Not saying it isn't balanced on a spreadsheet, but that doesn't mean it is fun to play against or feels fair in a 1v1

[spiral jetty]

feel you, every virgin and their dog is using CL40. 5 games in a row with average of 2 mediums with CL40s on each team

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[topaz barn]

We need some kind of skill based matchmaking. Doesnt seem fair putting a basement dweller against a brand new player.

Need some divine intervention to win with a team of two noobs that are less effective than plant pots

[copper topaz]

I tried it for one match….
I was 28 kill /5 deaths
this weapon NEEDS a nerf

[agile hound]

RS rollback for versing cheaters, HWID bans for cheaters, possibly some form of verification for ranked, phone number etc

@last mirage i used to sell HWID spoofers and give support to people spoofing, the weakness is in your message, "hardware ID can be spoofed easily by people who know what they are doing"
most cheaters do not know what they're doing, i have firsthand experience with the amount of idiots being unable to spoof, and majority of cheats are just pre installed on computers in internet cafes in China, imagine the headache for business owners having their machines HWID banned.

your point abt phone numbers while true, it adds another layer for cheaters to bypass, making things more tedious and discouraging.

The sad truth is we can never stop cheaters, but plenty can be done to make it really hard.

[pliant glade]

Just leaving matches now when i see an excessive amount of CL40, just one is already enough to ruin a lobby, having 2 on every team is enough to drive a man mad.

[smoky gust]

the music that normally warns us that a team is about to win is really quiet
it should be turned up a bit

[signal basin]

READ MY NAME.
Nerf CL40, DEGALE and PIKE.

Buff LIGHT CLASS FFS !

And do something about your servers. Dying behind a wall is not normal ! Fix your matchmaking. I can't play solo in your game when I'm doing more than my part and people can't play with more than 2 IQ.

Stop thinking Light can't play in team. Look at this and tell me again this shit ?! It was a L/M/H squad !

Balance your game !!!!!

[floral vector]

How to report winning trading？

[strange ermine]

Please give all melee a 5% movespeed boost while equipped.

[last mirage]

i'm in I.T and hardware ID can be spoofed easily by people who know what they are doing. verification from phone numbers isn't a good way to solve the problem either since people can also just sign up for a temporary phone number websites to get over that hurdle. government id can be faked by using other peoples id. Overwatch did a system like this and there are still repeat cheaters on that game. The thing is that people who cheat repeatedly, don't care if they have to spend x amount of time or money to do such a thing, if they want to cheat, they are gonna cheat. slowing down the process to get into a game isn't a good enough deterrent from cheaters to not play the game. and sure you can catch out the clueless people who attempt to cheat, however its not gonna stop the people who make a living off of making cheats from this game, and people who are more knowledgeable in software on there own hardware. if we attempt to catch up to the standard of what's being done with every single game in terms of punishing cheaters it would only make the people who develop those prepackaged cheats previously in different games adapt very quickly. and when stuff like this becomes the standard in terms of working with cheats in every game, then the knowledge of spoofing hardware will become the standard for people who are looking to cheat. I agree with what you are saying for the most part and understand why it makes sense to do hardware ID. however it isn't the correct way to mitigate the overwhelming issue of the repeat offenders. it becomes a diminished return for the amount of time spent working on that feature in terms of fighting against cheaters. unless we start becoming unethical in terms of fighting cheaters, the ball is in their court and Embark can only do periodic ban waves.

[surreal hawk]

light is the most overpowered it has been in a while, i think you need to just be better

[unkempt vale]

NEED POWERSHIT RANK OR SIMIL WT MODE IN PS

[glacial condor]

Why is the only gun worth playing akm it can kill anyone instantly

[red echo]

You said you want wt ranked but you know the ranked mode is also cashout tournament , which is same mode as wt

Nvm mb @unkempt vale I missread

@glacial condor there are like 3 medium guns better than it lmao

[vital zodiac]

please add the function of adjusting the crosshairs inside the telescopic sight

[wooden holly]

add feature to custom the sights like the red dot make it green triangle something like the crosshair customization

[signal basin]

So explain me why there is only M and H in ranked if Light are so "overpowered". I will wait. Looks like a guy with skill issue

[proper chasm]

Like the entire class is built around being an annoying prick. Lights are playing cod with their paper health and massive damage output while everyone else is playing a different game.

Like think about it. They have a tool that's soul purpose is to make you stand still while they get an easy frag.
The grappling hook's cool down allows them to constantly move massive distance away from attacks while jump pads, zip lines hell even the lights dash can't keep up with it in terms of spam-ability.

Lights have not just a specialisation but a super power in the form of cloak/invisibility and vanish bomb/Diet invisibility and it's only weakness that isn't on the light class itself is on the motion sensor which no heavy will bring when memes like the rocket launcher and protection tech exist. The only other counters for invis are thermal vision which is bugged and causes people to become completely invisible when standing infront of the skybox and the sonar grenade which is also a light special.

Then there's evasive dash which when used effectively means that relentless pursuit by a light holding any one of the light's high burst damage weapons like LH1, Bow, Throwing Knives, Sword, both of the shotguns.

Medium was mostly fine as it was and I don't think the solution in a team game where lights were playing cod was to do the same to Medium and Heavy
virtually ensuring that now it doesn't matter what happens in ranked mode a team that wants to 3rd party will win the engagement if they only use Deagles, Pike, and CL40 because they are very high burst damage weapons which will cause anyone that gets targeted by a team of them to fucking dissolve.

[iron sleet]

what's the point of RS when games are never balanced? playing ranked against 3 teams with 30k more team RS each..

[tribal barn]

Give light better teamplay gadgets, we gucci

[red echo]

FIX THIS

[ionic tusk]

Day 1 of asking Embark to give the sniper scope/sights options

[brisk ruin]

this damn CL 40 runing everything in this game, remove it from ranked like..????

[proper chasm]

Legit I just got joined into a powershift game that we were about 5 seconds away from losing. I equipped the CL40, went 14 - 2 and we won

[young canopy]

NERF THE CL-40 THIS GAME IS SO AWFUL AND UNSATISFYING TO PLAY WHEN YOU HAVE TO PLAY AGAINST A 3M FULL GRENADE LAUNCHER AND JUMPPAD TEAM

[austere vector]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ADD MORE CUSTOMIZATION TO CHARACTERS LIKE - being able to wear glasses and a mask or body paint and face paint . As well as the option to put hoods up and down ,I feel like it would give people a lot of creative freedom and would just be badass in general

[zealous mural]

revert the cl-40 changes day#8. Still not playing this garbage game because of full mid-lights lobby

[rose basin]

cl-40 nerf and improve the practice room

[deep summit]

CL-40 aint balanced, especially how destruction causes low fps

[odd ibex]

For medium class

replace medium cl40 with this long range explosive bow(with slight delay) cause medium with that much health(plus turret) shouldn’t spam explosive like that so with bow(with long range sight) u need good aim,it’s long range and still good damage to be viable or rework cl40 to be sticky grenade with delay

Or just give these ideas to light class cause it has no explosive weapons

https://youtu.be/KkJdzj_mKHw?si=M9YToYhhAvbimbOM

[quasi dagger]

Stop explosive weapon, clearly ruin the game

[flint jungle]

This season they have buffed your light and nerfed heavy and you still ask for more buffs and nerfs 🤣
If you want a game only of lights, continue like this.

[unreal fossil]

You sound like someone who's never really played Light. Else you would realize how difficult it is to play the objectives while not getting deleted in the blink of an eye, especially these days with the 3M CL40/Pike/Model/heal/defib meta.

I played quite a few QC rounds as Light recently (not even WT or Ranked...) and although I could make a mess of enemy teams at times by using the full extent of my loadout (V9S, flashbangs, stun gun, invis, dash), I often got insta-gibbed countless times. You just can't take damage as a Light. If you don't engage the enemy on your own terms, you die.

I have an easier time playing Medium, I can be as oppressive/hard to catch as a Light using dematerializer/pads/ziplines, except I have 100 more HP.

[thorn oak]

rl.

[dusty fox]

The gameplay is now absurd, this unplayable, creators dumber than a shoe.

[quick coyote]

Nerf light or there’s going to be no casuals playing the game 🤣

[fringe apex]

"buff lights" xDDDDDD

[wintry oyster]

buff aps or nerf cl-40

[muted ferry]

Im not the highest rank, Im not a comp player. As a casual player, the CL-40 is just absolutely atrocious to go against. Its not fun when most of my power shift games are nothing but the CL-40, Same with QC. Its not fun at all. By the time I react to the first explo from the cl40, I might as well just stop moving because the other 3 are already on their way and Im just gonna die. Skill issue, whatever, its actually mental. Another thing, the Sledgehammer for the Heavy. I understand that its meant to be a hard hit with the M2 but damn its insane being oneshot as a L/M

TLDR; Nerf CL-40 and Sledgehammer

[thorny hare]

nerf the medium GL. it's beyond broken

[craggy basin]

Amazing idea if aps is buffed for not health and range cl40 would be a bit more fair

[old grove]

I’m forced to run APS in ranked but it only eats 3 nades form CL. Atleast it gives me a chance to actually react to the weapon before I’m insta dead.

[surreal hawk]

Because people playing ranked are usually premade teams, and those people acknowledge that lights don't offer good team play, as they aren't good for much else apart from kills, so lights won't get picked. That doesn't stop them from being stupidly broken, having weapons that can melt heavies in 1 second is munted

[somber axle]

There are barely any casual players anyways 🗿

[quick coyote]

HUGE performance issues in this update.

[violet elbow]

this game used to be about teamplay and coordinated teamfights.

now we nerf mesh, healing, give the support class the best weapons in the game and just fuck up 3+ seasons of balancing towards class identities, while nerfing Light, a class that already struggled at higher elo and is now even worse.

GG embark please keep ruining every bit of depth in your game because bad casuals cant play together with their team, so we just remove everything that requires any bit of teamplay!

[wanton phoenix]

Huge fps issue, getting 25 fps suddenly, made sure my pc is using gpu and everything

[mellow shadow]

YES every second update is terrible and this is just ridiculous

[signal basin]

Yeah nerf XP dmg is a Nice buff

[astral thorn]

3 Medium Team with Defib is completely ridiculous, please add shared cooldown for defib

[proud steppe]

it is, they killed the lewis with brutal recoil and lower damage already.

[viscid sapphire]

There needs to be penalties in place for people who leave their matches early.

[gilded sage]

Hear me out about the sword. It’s fun and all but does not take long to be good with. In no way would i say it’s a skillful weapon.
The lunge should be dropped to 100 damage. Since every sword main quick melees on lunges that will make it do it’s normal 140 damage.

[solid ledge]

for the love of god pls nerf cl
in my mind, the cl is a weapon that takes these roles and characteristics:

• defend the cashout from a long distance without harming/exposing yourself to the enemy
• when faced with a close quarters combat, there is a high chance you will lose because of self damage and the superior damage of other weapons
• destroy structures
  in the state that it is now, you are rewarded for close quarter combat, and medium range combat, even at long range you can pester enemies so severely that they are forced to move away, the factors at play for this i think are:
• damage at long range is too high, it should explode after travelling a certain distance, so that you can still protect the cashout, but not be at such ridiculous ranges to do so, this is THE mid range weapon
• self damage to yourself is too low, it should be something around 150%, you shouldn't be rewarded for blowing up your own feet and winning
• damage values itself are too high, a light with a close range weapon will simply lose in mid to close range combat no matter what, in 2 shots more or less, regardless of if they are well or poorly placed

even if you don't nerf it, please for the love of god reduce the visual clutter it generates, i can't even see who im fighting and my fps lag spikes constantly, especially against a team of 3 mediums with the cl

[solemn topaz]

How am I supposed to get 5 elims from 40 meters with gadgets? Nothing goes right ever.

[languid plume]

spam frag grenades into a cashout from far away until you eventually get a kill, either that or use heavy's RPG

[spice dagger]

full teams on WT with noob tube Wtaf.. get a life

[ember abyss]

I think, the CL-40 should get a damage increase, im unable to one shot lights.

[surreal meadow]

**EMBARK!!

DROP 5v5 CASH

AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!!! Day 29/100 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥**

[rose basin]

Nerf Pike and Cl-40, revert shield and buff fcar

[gloomy falcon]

please buff the cl-40, we need to 1 shot heavy with those

[rapid stream]

Dagger changes feel great but a faster charge up time or no movement penalty would be very appreciated

[young canopy]

CL-40 OUT NOW THE GAME IS AWFUL RIGHT NOW

[fringe schooner]

Because more people play them than anything else, of course they're going to have more losses @quick coyote I must have missed their percentage breakdown, have a link?

[unborn flower]

Please fix the optimization. Every time anything happens, fps drops by like a half, which makes the game so frustrating to play. This didn't happen before.

And also.. CL nerf.. Please. The gun is so redicilious

[astral thorn]

All ranged games are 3 Mediums atm. Please add shared cooldown for defib and or make it possible to kill the player while being defibed

[timber falcon]

Please buff the r.357 all it needs is that small damage buff to kill a medium in 3 hits and better hip fire spread that's all it needs for it to be it's own gun right now the pike overshadows the revolver in everything except headshot dmg like a 10% fire rate increase and a tighter spread and the ability to 3 tap a medium would make the gun feel very nice and still punishes you if you miss but tye way it is rn the pike is just a better version of thr revolver you can leave the range alone let it be a short range hand cannon please just fix my beloved

[dry wraith]

After playing for ten days, I can confidently say that the CL 40 buff was excessive and a poor decision overall

[celest parcel]

its nice the contestant limit increased. but its better if its up to 10 or no limit at all. Wnot, embark?

[marble crane]

fix tfge0003

[jagged knot]

PLEASE PLEASE

BUFF CL 40 - AND MAKE IT THE ONLY AVAILABLE WEAPON IN THE GAME, REMOVE THE REST OF THEM

[vestal igloo]

cl 40 is ruining the Game ngl..

[digital yoke]

thks embark for the best season ever with cl 40 and pike f cking

[long badger]

Need menee with gun

[dull moth]

Nerf CL40

[green vigil]

I have now 100 hours and can confidently say that something is wrong with the light class. I get killed 80% off the time by a light player with the dash and get sprayed with the M11. It is realy annoying and buffing light because they loss more games is no opting. You play light only when you want a high kill round so ignore the cashout and your team mates. The light class need to focus more on the recon and not on the damage dealer role. I know the most player are often light player roasting medium because they can now kill you while you are dashing and destroying your 20 k/d.

[jolly pawn]

skill and activism issue

[modest root]

Rework XP-54

[storm inlet]

how can spending 30-40min in ranked only gives u 250 points man 😭
@upper citrus oh yea ik that, not saying that the system is bad, i really think it's solid and i totally agree with losing more for balancing, but winning only that for a final ? that hurts ngl xD

[upper citrus]

This is kind of unavoidable if you want a ranked system that actually places people in their skill group. Considering you have to match 8 teams together, it’s not always going to be fair. So when your team is ranked the highest in the lobby by far, it makes sense you won’t gain much from winning. It sucks but you can’t really do much about it

[bright gull]

I'm on xbox series S you guys have got to fix the frame dropping on kyoto map I get insane frame drops to the point it is unplayable everytime I play it.

[robust fox]

worst season, map that gives u fps crashes and bad balancing x)
cl40 is way too OP

[broken herald]

nerf model1887, cl and pike

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 41)

[spring locust]

My brother loves to play with me but the problem is, he’s playing on Series S and at times, he can’t even move due to the stutter/ frame drops

[vestal igloo]

same

[astral thorn]

All ranged games are 3 Mediums atm. Please add shared cooldown for defib and or make it possible to kill the player while being defibed

[tribal barn]

As a medium player, please just remove defib — I’m tired of the gameplay it promotes and limiting me to two gadgets.

[native jackal]

Bring back the no cooldown mesh shield. It genuinely sucks right now, as it feels more like a last resort than a specialisation when all the others can be used so freely

[wraith orchid]

as if embark is so stupid bro cmon🤦🏼‍♂️.
rn the balance is so bad that it would actually be a step in the right direction to lower medium hp to 200 and heavy to 300.
overall most medium and heavy weapons do too much damage looking at the time to kill a light compared to the ttk a light needs to kill them.
I DONT UNDERSTAND YOU EMBARK. you see the stats but you proceed to nerf light weapons? you nerf the dash which nerfs its MOBILITY which is the only part of light that can make up for this outrageous damage disbalance in the game right now. BUT IN THE LONG TERM YOU NEED TO ADRESS THE DAMAGE DISBALANCE EMBARK.
P.S.: light is and will allways be the most played class bc it is the fastest most mobile and thereby most fun class to play. Yes, it is as easy as that.

Dagger Wishlist:

-You shouldnt be able to climb while charging the dagger, i try so often to backsab someone above me but instead of jumping and stabbing, it tries to climb and my charge gets canceled (VERY IMPORTANT THIS WAS NOT ABLE TO HAPPEN LAST SEASON SO I ASSUME YOU JUST FORGOTT TO PROGRAM IT RIGHT)
-Option to hold and tap backstab like with the throwing knifes
-Always being able to run as last season
-Add a visual indicator of when the backstab is charged
-Remove the audio indicator cus it sounds terrible and you cant hear it mid fight at all.
REVERT THE DASH COOLDOWN NERF

Sniper Wishlist:
raise hitscan range or reverg the nerf completely and just ban the weapon from powershift.

Light Wishlist:
Balance it so that it can make up for the less hp. While burst weapons can benefit from hit and run, you are allways as vulnerable as the m/h/l enemy when using machineguns/pistols

[strange ermine]

This is fucking unacceptable. Nothing in this game should be ONE-SHOTTING A HEAVY.

[woven cliff]

I wish we can break the roof glass by falling :(

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[waxen hornet]

can we buff the deagle hipfire i swear i whiff with it in heated cqb range even when im tracking them with the crosshair

[green vigil]

why is this game went from a unique shooter to a kill race game wiping both teams to steal the cashout. Please let the people get less kills and get the people more play time. I am/the half lobby sitting 24/7 in the death screen.

[uneven dagger]

Buff cl40 remove self damage

[forest lintel]

Can crossplay at least see chat? I know they can't type in chat but it sucks to see your teammates suffer in silence because of one teammate leaving, can midmatch joining be for tournament, because it sucks having a great 3 player team and slowly die because of bad connection or rage quitting, I know tournament is not supposed to feel like quick cash but still it'll at least give us a 3 player team and not give us a disadvantage, maybe bring back the underdog effect thingy. I want some sort of bonus or buff for when one/all of your teammate(s) leave midmatch.

[tropic root]

Buff cl40's self damage to 200 damage to self within 30m

[hazy skiff]

Buff the dual blades. Actual throw pick right now and inferior to the riot shield in every way

[wind meteor]

How can it be fixed? I suggested it on another channel. This was my message:

The devs are saying that the buff to the CL 40 was because it wasn't fair for a medium to hit 100% all of his 4 grenades to kill a heavy.

But the solution was really an overkill. Damage increase. Radius of max damage 3.3 times as much, leading to an Area of max damage 10.9 times as much!

With that much of an area, aiming is easy, and can be done while jumping. But jumping to to avoid dying (1) doesn't work with a sphere of effect (which has become 35.9 times bigger) and (2) increases dispersion of the weapon countering the CL 40.

Also its almost forgotten that this weapon deals multidamage, hence if the fight happens in a tight place, 4 grenades are enough to obliterate or weaken any team.

This is why I don't understand at all this huge buff, and I think the devs can achieve the fairness their talking about, by:

• keeping the damage as it was.
• Increasing the amo to 5 instead of 4
• decreasing the radius to 19cm (avergae between 9 and 30)
• increasing reload time (natural consequence of having 5 grenades)

[upper citrus]

Rework dash and cloak to not be hard countered by anyone who can aim or has functioning eyes and ears. Light would be completely fine if its survivability wasn’t entirely tied to your opponent playing like shit.

[open monolith]

any idea why the game keeps crashing on launch? i just downloaded the latest update and haven't played for like a year

[fringe schooner]

I want some of whatever you're smoking, homie. The movement gap and the light weapon damage is why they have the health (and recovery) they do. The clear intention of the class is to be a scout/flank class yet everyone decides to play out their COD fantasy and only go for kills.

[astral thorn]

All ranged games are 3 Mediums atm. Please add shared cooldown for defib and or make it possible to kill the player while being defibed

[dim root]

is this diamond?

[tidal wraith]

nerf cl40 already holy crap

[fickle mango]

for the love of God please do not put new players in my ranked (I'm in gold 2)
they r either hacking or incredibly stupid

it's always 0 comms them not understanding comm
there was this 1 time v were in 2nd place and timer was 10 seconds left my brain-dead new player decided to start new cashout despite both of us telling him not to which caused us the game

[long burrow]

delete sys$horizon i get soo much sys just delete it pls nah it aint best its too colorful for me

[brittle obsidian]

me when im forced to play the best map in the game

[storm inlet]

plat 1

[spark shard]

Day 5/100: Change matchmaking for solo players.

I'm very pleased with all the changes you've brought this season, thank you!

However, the matchmaking has been broken since Season 2. In Season 3, I didn't play much ranked because it was TA, and I detest that game mode. I thought that during that season, meaning Season 3, you were working on the matchmaking to have something decent for Season 4, but I see that this issue continues from Season 2.

My matchups make no sense, neither in terms of rank nor in terms of the dedication to the game, which is evident when I compare my number of kills and revives with those of my teammates. And when I look at the other teams, they are with the people who should be matched with me, but instead, I'm playing against them.

I'm saying all this from the perspective of someone who plays solo, without a team. When can we expect improvements in matchmaking for solo players? Seriously, we've been like this since Season 2, it's very frustrating.

Note: I've even had people on my team who said in chat that they were playing ranked for "fun" in the sense of playing "quick play." This is a bad joke.

Note 2: I don't mind if it takes longer to find a game as long as it improves the current experience. I'd rather wait more than 2 minutes or however long it takes than wait 10 seconds and end up with a team with zero skill.

Note 3: Do not use the excuse of not changing the matchmaking in the middle of a season when you make buffs and nerfs to weapons, gadgets, etc., which also affect the game in the middle of the season. You have had enough time to do something about it.

[gleaming fox]

terrible connection issues after game is over

[proper chasm]

Did I say they weren't? I legit just said they were fucking annoying class to deal with because that's how they were designed to be played and I think the entire class needs an overhaul to fall more inline with the rest of the game. I know how annoying light can be because I nearly exclusively play it (for casual games)

[high wing]

just remove the new map it sucks

[signal basin]

Again. Read my name EMBARK.

Nerf Pike. Nerf CL40. Nerf Deagle.

Buff Light class DPS or survability

[vestal igloo]

light need survability not dps

[frank gull]

#👂┇game-feedback message - I actually had my names mixed up... Bazuso was in the show, & *Adon was in the movie
Not exactly Dark Souls, but apparently *Adon was in elden ring.
Edit : The creator of dark souls was heavily inspired by the comic apparently
However both have a nice axe, & spear. 👀

Embark 🗣️ 📣
If you Rework Blades,
Get Guts Sword...
Give us Knight armor,
MAKE HEAVY ZOD!!🙏🏽 (Maybe another Protocol style suite)
,Because when going against *L Heavy is the most calculated.
Icarus flying too close to the Sun
The tortoise and the hare
Now ZOD & Guts
Let your contestant & game have depth

(Spoiler/Easter Egg Warning!!)
https://youtube.com/shorts/fCz47zFeOyw?si=lbnnwx5qDtmyih1O
Sparing people's lives and controlling who you face in the finals is literally just part of the game!
Kinda poetic.
Hope you can do it Embark. 😬

[low prism]

Look at all the lights complaining haha, they aren't nerfing the like, it's a counter against light snipers

[wraith orchid]

Most light weapons are perfectly balanced, the other classes weapons are just too strong

[olive vector]

NERF THE CL40 NOW!!! It's horrible to play like this!

[deep summit]

Add xim and zen detection, filthy users

[coral forum]

Great fix and something i was also recommeding for the CL.

Comparing the Dev Notes for RPG and CL-40

RPG-7
Decreased damage from 140 to 100
Dev Note: We never really intended the RPG to be an ‘opener’

CL-40
Increased max damage from 93 to 117
Increased the max damage radius from 9cm to 30cm
Dev Note: The change is mostly aimed at making a Heavy three shots to kill

The light also needs more survivability. I do not know what the solution for that is yet.. maybe altering the specializations a bit? Revert the dash recharge time.. reducing the Cloak sound.

[wind meteor]

I am soooo much for this

[fringe schooner]

Bruh. What'd the deagles do to you? Light has the highest DPS already and some of the best survivability with lightning recovery and invis abilities. bad takes bud

[willow yoke]

A few ideas:
Dash speed needs to be buffed for it to be viable in higher elo.
Qol change for dash would be that you keep your momentum.
Increased throw speed for good nade/portal/vanish.

increased glitch duration and maybe double duration on objectives like mines/turrets.(helps lower elo lights where more turrets are present)
I would also be great if glitch disables meds wallhacks and does an glitch effect on the other side.

all these changes would help light without making the class easy to play or op

[young canopy]

Don't wait for the weekly update and nerf CL-40 NOW. It needs no aim and ruins the fun for everyone

[mortal notch]

impossible to play kyoto bc of lag on console rn just remove it from the map rotation

[jovial sonnet]

please revert the dagger changes it feels horrible to use now 🙏

[brittle obsidian]

sword and dash as a whole gets HARD shut down by stupid shit like the model and SA, which just so happen to be meta picks. lights only "viable" playstyle is ranged.

[spark shard]

What kind of joke is this? Seriously, you have a serious problem.

[gilded hull]

please for the love of everything good in this game make some balancing changes to the cl40, pike and model

[nimble kiln]

Buff Fcar to 24 damage

[dim root]

lmao it's literally a better version of Seoul (it doesn't have hopsital)
the only map that should be removed is Kyoto

[plush fjord]

removing defib will take out a major iconic gadget for med. do some heavy rework, like not allwoing players to respawn from their revive defib animation until enemies nearby have been eliminated or gone. or smthgn like this
And nerf cl40 only a bit, bring it back to s2 cl40

[vapid plinth]

I just need vegas to not have walls that are like 3 thick because of random lights and wall decorations that are impossible to use dematerializer through

[swift leaf]

bring back recon sense

[rigid cape]

Tripwires and turrets back to Vegas?

[prisma brook]

PERFORMANCE ISSUE

When playing on PC, I notice significant frame drops when particles fall from the ceiling after an explosion. Given that a lot of important events tend to take place after explosions, it would really be nice to have those extra frames.

I play on all around low settings with Nvidia DLSS set to Ultra performance. Fullscreen is enabled at a resolution of 1280x720. I play on a Lenovo Legion laptop with an RTX 3050ti graphics card.

Thanks for addressing this issue when you do!

[astral thorn]

Please fix enemy footsteps

[urban shuttle]

Again sincerely why is there a cap to mouse sensitivity. The max is too slow for me.

[clear glacier]

Ummm? Anyone else having this issue

[mortal notch]

wait until bro finds out light has the some of the lowest dps aside from m11: also buff xp-54 nerf pike and model cl40 etc

[feral thicket]

I kinda agree with pike but nerfing deagles just sounds like a skill issue

[ashen girder]

anyone got his Terminal Attack Dia skin? Cause i got nothing wtf ?

[blissful smelt]

I have a first feedback after a full week of SEASON 4.
I TBH I feel too much tryharding around than before in S3, but it may be a feeling. The end of Season 3 felt more fun IMO.

• I report a certain toxicity in Ranked-Cashout in the chat
• OPTIMISATION the game is still not optimised and absolutely TOO heavy on the CPU: I am now running the i7-6700k pushed at 4,6GHZ and I think that a *free game * should check to lowspecs PC more.
  Also I basically can change the quality parameters (internal, rendering engine) but in the end the game fill the CPU and GPU at a 95-99% that feels fake or adaptive weight. This is a sign of absence of optimisation. Also, playing at 720p doesn't help.
• the Class balancement is somewhat ok but rough, with the H still too much OP and insensitive to HEADSHOTS 😆 like if they have some fat into the head as a barrier...
• the last problem is the WEAPON BALANCEMENT and it's the bigger. I don't know if Embark produced other FPS before, but there are oddities like the L'UZIs that are unexpectly good at a range, and overall all the automatic "noob" rifles like the AKM and FCAR are simply too precise.
  The onliest weapon that's still incredibly bad is the L "sniper rifle": low damage, no headshot to M and H, 3 or more body hit to kill (M / L).
  If you for some reason want to play some sniping and not a melee approach, you're losing basically every 1 to 1 duel indoor. It fels so bad as other games had a correct risk/reward approach.
• The new wap is bad, poor event and also heavier to load
• ...it causes less matches in KYOTO which is the top location, and where the most fun matches happened, for me.
  Good work!

[viscid pilot]

good game

[uneven dagger]

holy shit true ^

also v

[brittle obsidian]

Kyoto was a UE5 portfolio piece that accidentally made it into the game as a map. Please optimize it or get rid of it. It also plays the worst out of any map in pretty much every gamemode, especially powershift. Theres a reason why the platform spawns on solid ground in literally every other map. Also the slowing water adds literally nothing except making the marshy part of the map terrible to play.

[frank gull]

SBMM & Input separation? 👀
Once cheaters have diamond they'll probably smurf & run *L instead of climbing leaderboards.
Possibly leading to more fun stacks.
This will at least help with meta slaves.
Waiting until the end of the season is still wild & unfortunate... Normies literally are the entertainment since Hackers are technically playing a different game.

I don't know how many are in the game, but unfortunately I don't think anyone can confidently say it's a major issue.

[fringe schooner]

Don't be afraid to backup your claims with the DPS. I'd like to know what you're on about.

[marsh trail]

fun game pew pew

[cursive lotus]

Agreee pew pew

[thorny parcel]

I miss TA Ranked. Would it be possible to add in TA ranked alongside Cashout?

[tawdry tree]

I'm gonna reapeat the fact that Pyke / Deagles / Cl40 are the most oppressive weapons in the game, but there is a few takes I wanna go out of my system :
-Up a tiny little bit cloak and dash : cloak because it's basically bad on every point, everyone hear's you from miles away, if you move just a little bit, you can be sure there is some kind of an arrow pointing your head, it's actually insane. And dash, just a tini-tiny less couldown so it can be considered as "not bad"

-Do not up Xp 54, this weapon as been everywhere in the arena since s1 played by metaslaves crying like babies when L has been nerf. This weapon needs to be put aside, just for a season, for now, it's the case and I'm very happy about it. You know what ? I would be very happy to see it nerf to the f ground.

-H should have an overhole protection/utility gadget and spec buff (mesh, dome and more) and should get a hard nerf on charge dmg, it's crazy the number of time I see H lose their 1v1, press charge and win it anyway they have been outplayed or not.

-Defib, pls, do something about it... playing a final against MMM is so stupid. You kill 2, the last sprint on the token, everyone get revive. Having to kill them 6 times for a wipe is a crazy thing to do

-And do something about the toxicity in ranked / world tour (how can you be toxic in world tour ? that's the question), I'm tired to see countless insults about my mom's sexuality when I missplay for the first time in the game... tf is wrong with y'all ppl ?

[granite agate]

50 headshots @ 50+ meters?(Engimo S2 Quest) Bitch with my GFX settings the models are barely visible grain clutter at 50 meters. Been grinding maybe 6 hours now with 12/50 done. Yasugiru desho, maybe that's a bit too much? 20 would be a real task for most players, but 50 is a heroic display of a true sniper player. It gets bit tiresome ruining so many hours worth of games for people. In normal play, without questing I'd not reach that number even in a year.

[worn horizon]

deagle is super balanced and a skill weapon

[strange ermine]

They could stand to bring down the headshot multiplier just a tiny bit.

[verbal isle]

Its .50 tho

[silent fog]

Whoever does balancing at your company is so fucking clueless. What the fuck are you smoking in Sweden

[languid fractal]

Wow! Things are getting HEATED!

[quick coyote]

add scope to knife

[autumn sedge]

Hear me out: add scope to sword...

[torpid sky]

don't skip the progression pages after the game and wait till it tells you you got diamond 4

[brittle obsidian]

Defib would be fine if medium didn't currently do more damage than light. A medium will get back up and immediately chunk you for 128 w/ the model which is absolutely horrid to fight against. If you want dps as medium, they should make a special for it like a-wall from titanfall or something. The fact you can have the best of both worlds while sacrificing nothing is ridiculous, and goes against how the other 2 classes are designed. Also the fact you can triple stack M and still account for everyone's weaknesses is a massive red flag. Triple L lacks survivability and has dps. Triple H lacks mobility and has survivability. Triple M lacks.... what exactly? Not dps, not survivability, and not mobility.

(also the fact the support class only has 2 support abilities is lame, pls more support gadgets embark. )

[proper chasm]

I already spoke about how annoying burst damage weapons are and that goes for every class fact is lights are annoying, I'm not looking for a nerf I'm looking for an overhaul so they fall in line with the game. "This whole well if you think light is annoying your opinion is invalid and you're bad and" drone on and on. I'm literally asking them to make lights as viable as the other classes do away with all the things that make them annoying and bring them inline with more health and less damage output. Like light is annoying when I can go into powershift games and drop 25 - 35 to 1 kdrs near often when compared to the other classes.

And I do recognise that high burst damage weapons for the M and H are bad which is why I pointed out that they were unfun to play against in ranked in my original message you responded to like 3 or 4 hours ago

[balmy flume]

I see a lot of talk about nerfing this class or this one, but to me Meds are broken only because 3 stacking is available

[quick coyote]

i did noticed a significant fps drop under the same circumstances in game
its always when i see debris falling from the ceiling, i think it happens mostly in fortune stadium

[torpid vault]

Delete the Pike.

[alpine pebble]

nerf the cl-40

[ember dirge]

Can we add a bullet tracer option on some skins

[young canopy]

NERF CL-40 STOP THIS

[solar quiver]

Can we please replace the "Headshot 50 opponents from a distance of 50 meters or more" contract? Especially with the nerf to the SR84, this contract is beyond painful to do. It also promotes some awful gameplay. This game isn't meant to be played 50m+ out. It encourages players not to play the objective and make for an all-around poor experience for everyone.

[clear glacier]

Looks like in the progression screen it says 1200 while in WT screen it only says 1150

[odd ibex]

Rework ideas

3 health beam plus defib it’s crazy,health beam needs to start off at a slow pace for medium and especially heavies and then heal at a normal rate.

Pike is so strange,it’s like a way better revolver,if u could add a more zoomed sight for revolver it would be perfect.
A camping medium with pike’s long range and high fire rate is crazy to deal with.
Pike is a better lh with more health as medium,bad new entry as a weapon.

Pike needs a total hip fire nerf and lower fire rate.

Data reshaper rework should be if u reshape 3 orange barrels then u get one time use of a pyro grenade or gas if u get green canister or glitch grenade if u get 3 blue barrels,your team mates can gather them,so there is teamwork!

Gravity boots for wall running?

Lights grapple should be stuck to surfaces for vertical positions and scouting from interesting vertical angles or ambush,use grapple to pull team mates idols for revives.

[hazy skiff]

Buff cl40

[ripe seal]

Add backfill to world tour please. It's not the competitive mode anymore so there's zero excuse to be at a permanent handicap because a teammate threw a tantrum

[astral thorn]

Ranked matches are filled with 3 Mediums with healbeams, defib and CL40.. how is this "fun gameplay"?
Make defib share cooldown amongst the team

[paper rose]

So yeah, most of the feedback recently has been about PIKE, CL-40 and mesh shield being bad now.
Aside from that, as a medium main, triple medium teams are totally a problem, mainly because of triple healgun, triple turrets or triple defibs (ignoring triple CL-40). Defib is definitely too strong and could probably use some work like, the cooldown being shared to all defib users on the team. Anyway, it needs work for sure.

[keen siren]

And here we thought S3 was bad for catering to Lights...

[shell raven]

have defib restore a flat 100 hp instead of a % of hp

[verbal isle]

The worst start of the season in the entire existence of the game. CL-40 is completely broken, lights are useless unless you play with M11, new shotgun or double-barreled shotgun. Game balance is buried in the ground, and it is not visible that the developers are trying to do something about it.
I spent a week in agony from the fact that people do not even have to try to kill me with a damn grenade launcher AND THEY STILL DID NOTHING WITH THIS CRAP!
Apparently the developers are aimed at killing a product that has no alternatives on the market

[spiral jetty]

waaaah im bad at the game waaaah everyone that is better is a basement dweller waaaaah

[wraith orchid]

rn the balance is so bad that it would actually be a step in the right direction to lower medium hp to 200 and heavy to 300.
overall most medium and heavy weapons do too much damage looking at the time to kill a light compared to the ttk a light needs to kill them.
I DONT UNDERSTAND YOU EMBARK. you see the stats but you proceed to nerf light weapons? you nerf the dash which nerfs its MOBILITY which is the only part of light that can make up for this outrageous damage disbalance in the game right now. BUT IN THE LONG TERM YOU NEED TO ADRESS THE DAMAGE DISBALANCE EMBARK.
P.S.: light is and will allways be the most played class bc it is the fastest most mobile and thereby most fun class to play. Yes, it is as easy as that.

Dagger Wishlist:

-You shouldnt be able to climb while charging the dagger, i try so often to backsab someone above me but instead of jumping and stabbing, it tries to climb and my charge gets canceled (VERY IMPORTANT THIS WAS NOT ABLE TO HAPPEN LAST SEASON SO I ASSUME YOU JUST FORGOTT TO PROGRAM IT RIGHT)
-Option to hold and tap backstab like with the throwing knifes
-Always being able to run as last season
-Add a visual indicator of when the backstab is charged
-Remove the audio indicator cus it sounds terrible and you cant hear it mid fight at all.
REVERT THE DASH COOLDOWN NERF

Sniper Wishlist:
raise hitscan range or reverg the nerf completely and just ban the weapon from powershift.

Light Wishlist:
Balance it so that it can make up for the less hp. While burst weapons can benefit from hit and run, you are allways as vulnerable as the m/h/l enemy when using machineguns/pistols

[tawdry tree]

I actually very much agree with you, but it would mean an overhole rework of the class... it feels like devs have to make a choice between giving more utility to M and less fire dmg, or just nerf the defib to "balance" the class. Even tho the first choice would be better, I'm affraid it will not happen this season

[wispy sand]

Thank you for adding the prelobby lobby, now I can load into kyoto and leave quicker than alt + f4 and reloading. I never have to play Kyoto again! God bless you guys. You really are doing amazing work.

Decrease cooldown on smoke nades

[coral forum]

I scanned the #👂┇game-feedback channel with AI. The following is the AI summary of the recent feedback.

The feedback provided for the FPS game "The Finals" reveals several concerns regarding game balance, gameplay mechanics, and weapon dynamics.

1. Game Balance:
   Players express dissatisfaction with the current balance between light, medium, and heavy characters, with complaints about the effectiveness of triple medium teams and the perceived underperformance of light characters.
   The recent nerf to light characters' dash ability has compounded players' frustration, reducing the mobility of an already vulnerable class.
   Players suggest reevaluating damage output and character health to better balance the game.

2. Gameplay Mechanics:
   Players highlight the grappling hook's potential for vertical movement and strategic advantage but note issues with its functionality, such as unintended climbing canceling weapon charges.
   Users express confusion and concern over recent changes to weapon cooldown mechanics, urging developers to review and refine these adjustments.

3. Weapon Dynamics:
   There is a general consensus that the CL-40 weapon is overpowered, negatively impacting game balance and reducing overall enjoyment.
   Players also provide feedback on various weapons, requesting improvements to sniper rifles, daggers, and light weapons to enhance performance and usability.

Conclusion:
Overall, players are concerned with the current state of game balance and request a reevaluation of character classes, weapon damage output, and health parameters. Additionally, players express frustration with recent gameplay mechanic changes and hope for refined adjustments that enhance the gaming experience. There's also a general concern about specific weapon dynamics, with suggestions provided for improvements or reversion to previous states. Players emphasize the importance of maintaining a fun and competitive atmosphere in "The Finals."

[jade trellis]

Pls remove c grenade launcher

[silent fog]

braindead balancing

[rough herald]

balancing is way too slow

@torpid helm DUDE NOW YOU JINX IT 😭

[torpid helm]

We haven’t had some nerfs for a while

[rough hinge]

Non existant balance because the HEADS thinks it can be both a casual game and a comp game, On that note this channel has never had a change suggested be added to the game.

[smoky gust]

I personally think every class should be useable for all purposes if you build for it

Heavy doesnt really do movement
But if you use goo gun for example, you can get pretty good mobility anways

Thats how it should be imo
A class usually specialises for 1 purpose, but you arent locked out of a specific playstyle just because you like the "wrong" class for it

Weapons are 1 thing this doesnt work with though
You cant balance a class to have bad weapons but still be combat effective, because if you make it a special, then you lock them all out on the high mobility combat medium that you could usually get with demat
And if its a special, then they can still pick defib
Where they are then strong in combat and support, and were right back at square 1

They really just need to nerf the must use items
Then medium will still be able to support the team well, while not locking players out of other strategies

[glacial furnace]

remove grenade launcher PLZ ON GOD

[high wing]

FIX the BROKEN respawn SYSTEM pls, its worse than ever before

[brittle obsidian]

the only issue with medium becoming a dps class with minor utility is it'll directly compete with the other dps class with minor utility: light. Not only will it compete but it will literally just be better on account of having more hp. (which is what we're seeing in the current meta)

[calm edge]

The game is really fun right now and it would be for fun in split screen. Please I'm begging you please add split screen!!! That is all good bye for now. 🙂

[lavish shard]

M 200 hp
H 300 hp
🤦🤦🤦

[versed cloud]

Spawns are very bad for players on offense especially in the final round for ranked. I have managed to surpress enemy teams to the point to where they can't leave their spawn. And when they do respawn, it's in the exact same spot so the cycle repeats

[manic field]

getting teamwiped sucks

[marsh trail]

GG

[odd ibex]

Dagger quality of life improvents

-Option to BOTH single tap backstabs like before and also hold/prime stab
-Add a visual indicator of when the backstab is charged
-Remove the strange wind in ur ear AUDIO when u charge the dagger secondary cause it sounds terrible and you cant hear it mid fight at all.

there isn’t an accurate visual or audio cue that backstab is ready while holding,ADD a glint to the tip of the dagger blade and a ting sound to show its ready.

U can BOTH single click and hold throwing knife secondary attack but u can’t with dagger stab,plz fix it!!!!

Have grapple hook stick to any surface indefinitely for vertical map positioning

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[ripe seal]

+1 it's a fantastic game to play with friends and it would be even more fun w couch co-op

[ruby torrent]

Give some compensation plz to us all that end up with either one man down or two, I had this in my prelims I was the only guy! THX DICE!

[vale acorn]

I got Kyoto for two straight days in world tour lol

[shell raven]

skins for the sights pls

[sharp acorn]

Fix your ranked shid, loaded in without any team mates, could not leave and still lost rating

[tame owl]

🙏 Add golden chrome pants, skirt for the OSPUZE golden chrome jacket from Season 2 I beg

[lean oasis]

nerf grenade launcher, make self damage more. Prevent people from just barrel stuffing with it and using it as a shotgun.

[tropic wasp]

That'll never happen

[frigid cloak]

You mention stuff in the patch notes about trying to improve 3rd party in the game and then you still have cashouts spawn 50m from each other every other game, like WTF is this?! Really this season is sinking veeery fast

[wheat aspen]

the game is full of cheater

[hallow horizon]

I love the CL-40's new modifications, but right now it's just too powerful. I would like to suggest that it deals more damage to the user. I can hit the ground while surrounded by Light and still win easily while being shot. I think it's not fair. At the very least, the user should die at the same time.

[tawdry vortex]

1. Re-nerf CL40
2. Re-buff APS
3. Nerf pike
4. Heavy is in a good place 👍

[glad yarrow]

Fix hit reg on spear secondary attack

[high wing]

YES! The new respawn system is so fucking broken, its worse than ever before

[jade trellis]

Remove Cl40 plesae

[wheat sandal]

I want to disable marking the platform, at least as a game setting. Cuz it's stealing all enemy marks.

[shy current]

Tied up for 2nd/3rd. Game said we were second but knocked us out

[brave copper]

dont drop the ball on a second season in a row by ignoring the cl-40 spam you guys created.

[deep summit]

S3 ranked was more fun than S4 season ranked, you just get griefed and if you don't come 1st or 2nd you lose all you can gain, a loss for me now is 5 wins, not fun.

Devs try ranked you will change it instantly 🤣

60 minutes for +300
20 minutes for -1.5k
make that make sense

[keen lily]

trash game, you can leave your feedback here guys the devs are not going to read it anyway

[torpid sky]

cl
pike
model
they all need some(alot of) nerfs

[tawdry tree]

Feels like they listened. Ppl wanted an akimbo deagle for heavy, they got it. They wanted a Cl 40 buff, they got it. They wanted a Xp54 nerf, they got it. You got the point, most of the buffs and nerfs were actually asked by the community, doesn't mean they did it right, just that they did it

[slow crescent]

We need add a ban maps. I want to ban kyoto

[indigo mural]

Embark get your money up: sell melee animations in the cash shop, add new cosmetics for death effects (either your own or when you get eliminations)

[jagged cedar]

Go to the practice range and send me a clip of you face stabbing

[jade cloak]

actual suggestion and not just crying:

Can we please choose sights while in the preperation phase of a match?
This came to mind because I enjoy using the pike with the AZOC sight on maps like kyoto and las vegas, and the iron sight anywhere else.

Yes, we can change sights by choosing a different contestant, but with weapons I use casually (Like the Pike), I cant possibly remember which contestant got which sight.

[bold berry]

Please add 120 hz to consoles, and fix the audio, i cant ear anyone that is on my back

[limpid mica]

the 50m headshots contract is so rough, i feel bad having to be out of the fight so much to go for it

[night vortex]

I think these would be fine changes. My biggest concern is throwing it back in the trash where it was. I don’t want the game going towards a AR only sweatfest. The CL, MGL, and Flamethrower all need to stay relevant to keep the game fun.

I think the defib being a mandatory loadout is more annoying than anything in the game currently. They are big talk when it comes to saying the RPG shouldn’t be in every loadout. But when the defib is mandatory in every loadout, and being enforced by their players on other players, it’s okay.

[austere heart]

the cl40 damage buff is so annoying man

[azure ermine]

fix hit reg

[distant vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982014699291934770/1279734889817702450/caption.gif

[glacial furnace]

XD

[smoky gust]

I think it would be quite balanced

Light is better at chasing kills and ambushing enemies
Their movement also has certain upsides as mediums can be abused by enemies or destroyed, while lights are easier to use at a moments notice
And dont forget that light by itself also has a higher movment speed and a smaller hitbox

In return medium has a bit more hp

That alongside other choices like weapons, aps + glitch trap vs stun gun + gateway, ect. should keep the choice between them competetive

The only reason medium is meta right now is that medium gets a must use free revive gadget with basically no counters alongside all of this

Otherwise theyre pretty balanced imo

[tough sapphire]

I mean if you put glitch mine on the bodies of the opposing team ur kinda good. If they go for the revive they cant but you know they went for it and when they finally use defib if ur good u can be on them. Thats what we do with a teammate

But maybe embark will come one day and say "thats not the way we intented u to play so we will change that" .... we will see

[ionic tusk]

The scope on the sniper is kind of useless because of the bullet drop. Lines on the scop would make it more realistick and feel better

[coral forum]

I scanned the ⁠👂┇game-feedback channel with AI. The following is the AI summary of the recent feedback.

The feedback provided for the FPS game "The Finals" reveals several concerns regarding game balance, gameplay mechanics, and weapon dynamics.

Game Balance:
Players express dissatisfaction with the current balance between light, medium, and heavy characters, with complaints about the effectiveness of triple medium teams and the perceived underperformance of light characters.
The recent nerf to light characters' dash ability has compounded players' frustration, reducing the mobility of an already vulnerable class.
Players suggest reevaluating damage output and character health to better balance the game.

Gameplay Mechanics:
Players highlight the grappling hook's potential for vertical movement and strategic advantage but note issues with its functionality, such as unintended climbing canceling weapon charges.
Users express confusion and concern over recent changes to weapon cooldown mechanics, urging developers to review and refine these adjustments.

Weapon Dynamics:
There is a general consensus that the CL-40 weapon is overpowered, negatively impacting game balance and reducing overall enjoyment.
Players also provide feedback on various weapons, requesting improvements to sniper rifles, daggers, and light weapons to enhance performance and usability.

Conclusion:
Overall, players are concerned with the current state of game balance and request a reevaluation of character classes, weapon damage output, and health parameters. Additionally, players express frustration with recent gameplay mechanic changes and hope for refined adjustments that enhance the gaming experience. There's also a general concern about specific weapon dynamics, with suggestions provided for improvements or reversion to previous states. Players emphasize the importance of maintaining a fun and competitive atmosphere in "The Finals."

[brittle obsidian]

The movement speed difference is negligible, somewhere in the realm of 6% i believe? And hitbox size does not matter much in high skill fights. The bottom line is pike and model do way, waaaaay too much damage out of the box. Triple defib healgun is actually somewhat manageable when they're not shitting out 500 dps each simultaneously. If the medium ARs were buffed to be in line with model and pike, and medium became a dps oriented class, the game would be fucking miserable. We saw what FCAR meta did the game, we really don't need that again. A mildly sweaty MMM stack is pretty much completely uncontestable without laser focus or just also going MMM. In what game do you get your shit kicked in instantly for diving the support class? oh yeah, none of them besides THE FINALS.

[tall wave]

There should be cosmetics for the dematerializer where you can see a little animation on the tablet when you inspect it

[edgy stratus]

Im not sure if this issue is being worked on or is known already, but when i join or invite a friend (Im not sure if just restricted to people join from console into another persons game, could be PC to PC also.) It says that they joined the voicechat, but their avatar doesnt show up, and we are unable to que for games.

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[upper citrus]

It actually makes a lot of sense. It’s the only way to make a tournament ranked system work properly. You are being placed in lobbies where your teams RS is much higher than the other teams. You shouldn’t be losing

[vale acorn]

I enjoy it but I have been getting kyoto for two days straight now

They need to restart a server or something

[tropic swift]

One of the few ways AI is good lol.

Pike and CL has made both heavy and light extremely weak as both weapons can replace the big part of their gadget/role. There’s no reason why RPG should have less damage than the CL. Maybe make RPG more for destroying turrets and such?

Lights is a balancing failure and the foundation of it made it inevitable for the class to be either too weak or overpowered and never in the middle ground.

[keen lily]

I'm done with this game until there are some balance updates, playing with 0 brain teammates that are higher ranked only because they are using pike or cl-40 is ridiculous

[worn horizon]

i dont know if this was ever mentioned but i think the cl40 need a nerf

[spice dagger]

how long for the nerf is it another holiday or something?

[shy current]

cl40 self dmg pls

[true hornet]

If you literally have mvp of every single category it should automatically give you points to rank up whether you lost or not because we're still running on the same dogshit matchmaking code from s1 somehow
just a suggestion

[halcyon vault]

The ranked tournament rs rewards are terrible

[frank gull]

I agree it can be tedious and annoying.

#👂┇game-feedback message - @idle oracle you make good points as to why players who have unlocked everything in the game should still be able to use the currency for something.

#👂┇game-feedback message - @sudden pawn Every Season seems to have at least 1 - 3 contracts nobody likes. Returning players that have nothing to spend should still be able to reroll weekly contracts.

For new players it be nice to give them loadouts. Maybe 4 or 5 gadgets with each gun, maybe even 2 guns per specialization that model might work, & save time for new players who don't know the meta.

#👂┇game-feedback message - @runic forge I know that feel.

Side note: #👂┇game-feedback message

[neat fern]

New ranked queue is definitely broken, why am I in gold playing with the #2 and #3 in the world? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/746578755157229580/1292200238219526144/THE_FINALS_10_5_2024_2_06_59_PM.png?ex=6702dec0&is=67018d40&hm=eeca2ccf49d5ad9e62a30a960ab708a08ff5da8bdc958c9a3d1b395e11a9b0f6&

[sudden pawn]

but the stuff u get is like all cosmetic

[vestal igloo]

nerf CL 40 and pyke or dead ss

[austere heart]

https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/iOQswaX18kgAluMdC?invite=cr-MSxIU2IsMjA4MjMwMzg2LA
yea idk man CL40 buff really did not help this game

[inner pelican]

Medium needs breach gadgets

[silk moon]

I no longer can play, so sad

[young hamlet]

Give medium smoke bombs

[smoky gust]

i think we have a different view of what counts as dps class

i do agree that model and pike do too much damage
but imo (almost) all medium weapons already provide combat viable damage
which is why i think defib and healbeam are too strong

with how much support these 2 options provide, almost all of mediums weapons would need to be worse than they are now
but medium being pure support with bad weapons would leave them 1 dimensional and boring, which is not a state we should strive for

you shouldnt "get your shit kicked in" for diving a support character
but medium is currently not and should never be a pure support character
they currently do dps and support, and since nerfing the weapons is a bad idea (alongside nobody complaining about them, while a lot of people are complaining about defib), the support should be nerfed instead, to the point where its a decent option, but not as overly strong and meta defining as they are now

[static elbow]

Please nerf the medium grenade launcher

[valid sequoia]

Please nerf the medium grenade launcher

[blissful smelt]

(answering to a guy before)
...true about toxicity also in fake ranked Tournament.
IMO this game (also in S4) is completely failing on keeping separated = matchmaking the skilled/semiPROplayer to the casuals or simply players that need a fun experience.

Last one: remove those atrocious Grenade Launcher. It's a new meta but it's very very annoying to deal with that chaos.

[hasty oriole]

I just ran into a team on fortune stadium that was continuously gooing the jump pads to zone 6.. Gotta fix that. Shouldn't be able to put goo on top of a jump pad. Every where else it bounces off. Game breaking. They were just sitting back with long range weapons and grenades and we couldnt even get over to them to do anything because we had close range weapons'.

[timber falcon]

Please buff the r.357 all it needs is that small damage buff to kill a medium in 3 hits and better hip fire spread that's all it needs for it to be it's own gun right now the pike overshadows the revolver in everything except headshot dmg like a 10% fire rate increase and a tighter spread and the ability to 3 tap a medium would make the gun feel very nice and still punishes you if you miss but tye way it is rn the pike is just a better version of thr revolver you can leave the range alone let it be a short range hand cannon please just fix my beloved

[mental hatch]

Performance issue on las Vegas, 7700x+3070 = 150 fps on fhd on low preset

[pale inlet]

Ok ok ok tis saturday so i shall start doing a weekly feedback!!!!

1. Statues should show the clothing on the contestants IF this can not be done, maybe show which ones medium , light, heavy, so when your clutching in a world tour or comp you dont need to pay attention to the username and you just need to look at the statue for a quick second

-- Bugs Issues --

Lots of bugs, Kyoto still being by far one of the most laggiest maps and i cant even figure out the reason why, maybe too much bamboo ?

Crashes here and there but thats from other people mainly pc I do not have that issue <3

-- Buffs, Nerfs?--
All the guns are good imo maybe a slight damage dbuff to cl-50
Heavy may need to get a tiny nerf to charge but right now seems balanced with the cl so its a counter
Pike needs to live to desc do LESS damage close up, MOST medium range, and alot far back (since its hard to aim)

-- gameplay preformace--
So far nothing in my experience has been bad except little spikes here and there which isnt lag,
Inspect animations get bugged sometimes after gagets and wont let you inspect weapon for a bit (just a minor bug)

Big Issue
Sometimes on console the guns "jam" and it will not let me shoot, or throw grenades, or use jump pads, I have to wait a good 5/10 second then itll make me reload? even though im at a full make then itll let me shoot

-- Conclusion--

So far amazing season, good cosmetics, and not too too much out of the ordenary, hope this helps!

[queen wedge]

pls nerf granade launcher medium

[tepid hazel]

Why start a ranked match if you load in without a 3rd. So stupid to get penalized for losing a match down a team mate

[worn horizon]

93r is still bad, needs 24 ammo and better firerate

[vestal igloo]

i agree in all,but more guns need Nerfs not only CL 40

[ornate olive]

nerf cl 40 and pyke556 dmg. And the charge n slam should have more time refresh

[woeful sigil]

Hi everyone . I do have a problem with battle pass . i reached lvl55 but im unable to use anything from it. there is any solution to fixet it ?

[rough herald]

change half of cl40 damage into bonus damage on direct

[thick verge]

kyoto lags unbelievably as of season 4, genuinely unplayable

[quasi dagger]

Poor game ruined by CL-40. 2 Weeks too do something. It's why player leave your game. Dont cry later. Nobody like potato game.

[red echo]

neck beard for all the heavies?

[brittle obsidian]

since the v9 has usable sights now it should probably get a small mag size nerf. its gotten kinda overstatted over time with the marginal buffs across season 2 and 3.

[fringe schooner]

I feel like it hits way farther than it should too, I get sniped by that thing

[blazing lantern]

cl 40 and pike nerf when?

[mellow narwhal]

begging for a cl40 and pike nerf this coming update these guns got overtuned to much and honestly have made for one of the most boring metas this game has had

[dim root]

the heal beam nerf helped a lot

[torpid tapir]

can you guys fix with team mates leaving ranked games or starting with less players on ranked, why am I have to lose points because I'm playing with less team mates I can not leave because I'll have my penalty or lose points, can't win because its 2 against 3

[rough hinge]

Remind me what the point of this gun is? now that the Pike .556 is in the game?

Or what the point of this is now it only has 3 charges?

Or what the point of these swords are the ones that get outclassed by literally every other melee weapon?

@upper citrus Its unused by 90% playerbase even through this CL40 spam fest its unused because its useless, 3/4 shots and its gone & the splash is now so fking big that its destroyed from 1 shot near it

[tight cypress]

Currently I am ranked gold 3 playing with a duo ranked gold 4. Our last game we were just place in a trio diamond team lobby, with the rest of the teams being gold and 1 plat. I don't remember this being a issue and season 2 as bad and don't think it was suppose to be part of ranked. Keep in mind as well we got minus 346 points.

[thorn kelp]

To all the noobies that complain about the CL-40

@proper chasm @proper chasm Read first before commenting
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/bQY04fNdol

[night vortex]

I think the defib does too much to reward playing poorly. There’s too many times we will outposition a team, get a kill or two, and before we can even move in to set up on a trophy they have already defibbed and are combat ready again. Down in the low ranks you can see how much milage they get out of it because they will blindly rush to get a defib while getting shot down and die as the defib is popping up.

To me it feels like they kept nerfing heavy because it was too effective. But the reason it was too effective was because it got a second life and 500 health from having the medium leash.

@upper citrus the current CL40 craze in the low to mid rank makes it feel bad is what I’m assuming. The CL eats an entire mag and then they reload.

[undone swallow]

a damage buff would lead to 1 tapping lights on headshot. no thank you

[upper citrus]

no way people still think APS is bad. you are taking the value of 3 cooldowns by using 1. it will never be bad

@night vortex probably yeah

[thorny lynx]

well if the Reddit weebs say so then it MUST be true

[proper chasm]

I just used the CL40 to fucking annihilate a lobby, it needs nerfed

[ember ridge]

FIX CL40 GAME IS FUCKING UNPLAYABLE WHOLE TEAMS ARE RUNNING SAME WEAPEN AND SPAMMING DESTROYING COMPLETE BUILDINGS AND IF YOU play on console your fucking controller doesn't stop vibrating like a vibrator even if the explosions are on the other side of the map.

[spark shard]

What I love R.357 and 0 buff, a weapon that requires a lot of skill, which is why Embark doesn't give it much love and prefers to have weapons like CL40 or Model super OP, as all that is needed is to have the brain of an amoeba.

[clear hemlock]

It's pretty much one of the only good weapons on light now. Unless other weapons get buffed, no

[obsidian sail]

Gyro players shouldn’t have scope sway.

[strange ermine]

A projectile size increase to buff KS-23 accuracy a little bit would be nice.

[kind condor]

CL BUFF IS A FUCKING JOKE, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF BUFFING THE GUN WITH APS GETTING NERFED, WHAT IS IT???!

[wise jolt]

maybe there can be a necklace option. im in love with the diamond ring and id love a diamond necklace as well

[smoky gust]

doesn't feel like that to me
the heal beam nerf only made it slightly less fun to use (imo)
there is still 0 engagement or ways to fail, just always heal and stop right before overheating

it should have stayed strong, but with an added downside
like being charge based

maybe the recent nerf would be more impactful if a death actually meant something
defib was/is way more problematic and hasnt been touched

[coral forum]

CL-40
Increased max damage from 93 to 117

Dev Note: This change sounds significant, but keeps the weapon in a place where it still takes two shots to kill a Light and three shots to kill a Medium. The change is mostly aimed at making a Heavy three shots to kill instead of four, as we felt it was unfair to the CL-40 to have to land all four of its available four shots (i.e. 100% accuracy) to kill a Heavy without reloading
Decreased fire rate from 275 RPm to 210 RPM

Dev Note: A small adjustment to offset the significant damage buff a little.
Increased the max damage radius from 9cm to 30cm

[robust breach]

I have been non stop touched for 3 hours by 3 stack CL teams

[night vortex]

I think defib should be removed and give mediums a passive. 25% faster revive, give 25% ammo back to revived player. Let’s them play support role without the braindead dash and defib play.

[pearl crater]

everywhere i go i see cl40 i am a mid player, and i have never used this gun but when i saw 90% mid player using it i tried it its op no skill need to kill you can just wipe a team if they are close i didn't even have fun its like using cheat to get kills or rank up my fps get fucked from spamming they just shoot everywhere iam tired of them

[deft moth]

Some suggested defibs become a specializations instead, but either removed from the game or specialization, no amount of nerfs to defibs will ever make it Non-mandatory

[strange ermine]

What an absolutely insane take. Did the Stun Gun instakilling melee players slip your mind? Or asking your Heavy to start destroying their cover? Or, and this is gonna sound crazy, using the massive range advantage you have by virtue of taking a gun to a knife fight? Don't go blindly running into buildings when you know there are melee players running around. The maps are so spacious that there's no other explanation than this just being a skill issue. And Riot Shield?? Please hook me up with what you're smoking. Riot Shield is a D-tier weapon at best. Sword and Sledge are the only 2 weapons worth mentioning and they're hard-carried by specializations.

[autumn sedge]

Defib idea: LF feedback.
What if you have to hold it on the person you're reviving for 1/2 or 3/5 normal Rev time but they come back with full ammo, full hp?

[spark shard]

Review all short-range weapons.

It cannot be that these weapons work well for medium and long distances, and of course, that's normal for short distances.

They have no recoil (so you can shoot like a chimpanzee, running and jumping), they are fast, and they have a brutal damage range for distances that are not suitable for these weapons.

Please review these weapons that require no skill.

[twilit geode]

Frequent game crash on latest Nvidia GeForce Game Ready Driver on RTX 4050 (notebook)

[shy token]

As we can all see, THE FINALS' community is deeply passionate when it comes to concept art and making drip. Earlier this year we saw the switch away from exclusive bundle pricing to individual items now being made available for purchase. This alone allowed a great amount of customisation and personalisation of the game. But @shy token is back this time to argue the case for community driven input.

By allowing the community to create fan-made concepts and outfits using available items, TF has allowed its community to creatively flourish. However, we think, and there are others who have considered this idea as well within the community, that new community made items should be given the chance to be official and in-game.

This would not be the first time that such a thing exists in the world of gaming. Warframe's 'TennoGen' is one of the best examples of having the community be involved in the creative process. This engagement's potential is virtually limitless and invaluable for the game's longevity and community. It can be further sustained by giving the creator(s) a chance to be awarded through a variety of ways, in combination or merely by themselves:
(a) recognition,
(b) in-game or IRL payment,
(c) but most importantly a free (perhaps personalised) version of the very same item that will be immortalised in the world of TF.
(DAY 41)

[kind condor]

So what a little fucking buff? seriously??

[eternal kayak]

Your entire response is worthless seeing you typed all of that and missed the core point of the message which undermines every point you attempt to make. The point of the message is to communicate the importance of balancing for close quarters. Close quarters battles are the most important because almost all cash outs are close quarters and because of respawns and revives long range battles matter significantly less. This isn’t a game discussion chat it’s for giving your feedback to devs which I am not. Which means I couldn’t give a fuck less about your existence let alone your opinion on anything. You could be completely erased from Earth it would mean nothing to me. Don’t @ me you don’t matter to me instead communicate to the developers who care about you and your opinion.

[last mirage]

thank you, as a heavy melee main, the updates to mesh shields and RPG made it harder to secure kills from afar, and tend to make heavy have to hide in the shadows in order to defend the cashbox. any sort of specialization/gadget that can be good for melee heavy, can be better for ranged heavy. same thing goes for medium as well. If they found a way to make melee heavy and medium have a way to do damage from afar without it being useful for ranged players then it would balance things out.

[zealous mural]

revert the cl-40 changes day#9. Fire the guy who suggested it in the first place. This gun makes this game reverse-fun

[tepid violet]

The problem is that the smallest buff can make the class op. That’s why they rather nerf heavy and medium instead of buffing light. The problem is that they also buff weapons like the CL40 which makes other nerfs meaningless

[smoky gust]

agreed

but i don't agree on your solution
defib has skins so removing is likely out of the question

there are two solutions i could see working:

1. being able to shoot the hologram and if they take a certain amount of damage, they are stopped
   its still far from ideal, as its still a free 2v1 (because you need to choose between shooting the medium or the hologram) but it allows you to prevent a free revive from a teammate that comes along 10 seconds later/during team fights

2. slowing the medium to 0% during charging and making the charge up last ~3 seconds
   (that is very harsh, so in return the person would come back as revived, so instantly and at 100% hp/ammo)
   with this a medium would need to already be at the statue and then stand still, allowing people to shoot them
   it basically prevents defibs out in the open, forcing people to hide with them, making it act as a faster revive

(but it would need to be coded in a way that disallows people from using it while mid air, to prevent workarounds with ziplines/jump pads)

i prefer the 1st one over the 2nd one, but any nerf to defib will be welcome by me

[tribal spoke]

Please fix the dual blades reflect/deflect, buff the dual blades dps(Its really low, especially when the enemy is actively escaping you so you only get part of the combo in) and improve the dual blades range or mobility so it can stick on people better, especially lights

[opal ocean]

Please fix performance issues on Kyoto on Xbox 🙏

[wraith orchid]

Dagger Wishlist:

-You shouldnt be able to climb while charging the dagger, i try so often to backsab someone above me but instead of jumping and stabbing, it tries to climb and my charge gets canceled (VERY IMPORTANT THIS WAS NOT ABLE TO HAPPEN LAST SEASON SO I ASSUME YOU JUST FORGOTT TO PROGRAM IT RIGHT)
-Option to hold and tap backstab like with the throwing knifes
-Always being able to run as last season
-Add a visual indicator of when the backstab is charged
-Remove the audio indicator cus it sounds terrible and you cant hear it mid fight at all.
REVERT THE DASH COOLDOWN NERF

Sniper Wishlist:
raise hitscan range or reverg the nerf completely and just ban the weapon from powershift.

Light Wishlist:
Balance it so that it can make up for the less hp. While burst weapons can benefit from hit and run, you are allways as vulnerable as the m/h/l enemy when using machineguns/pistols

[keen abyss]

Lol same .sorry to any teammates i quit on😂

[night vortex]

The weird part to me is they didn’t want overwatch shield fuckery, so they keep nerfing heavy shields. However, they’re okay with three Mercy players running around with junk rat, Ashe, and soldier 76’s weapons.

@smoky gust easy fix. Just use the defibs as the mediums standard revive animation. Keep the noise and stuff so you have an audio queue for when a medium is reviving. Your second solution is almost identical to mine. The main thing I’m trying to fix is having it be mandatory. That way we can see more variety in the medium builds.

[pliant glade]

Aye real shit though we do need to buff the dual blades. give em a lunge or something man, they're god awful as it stands right now. it's not a matter if you'll die but when. all you do with them is prolong the inventible death in using them. i'd say give them a stamina bar, accuracy more dependent on where your cursor is, and a heavy lunge out of block or charged up from holding left click.

[vestal igloo]

yeah plz

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[ivory blaze]

man

[halcyon vault]

The battle pass is so fuckin lame this season, I couldn’t care less about unlocking anything in it

[last mirage]

well yes but the thing is with your concerns is that it all depends on the cashout having any sort of cover/room to begin with. some maps like the variation of the destroyed church in Monaco, the desert variation of Las Vegas, and Kyoto having limited building for cover are painful for melee heavys to fight on because of how open it is. meanwhile for maps like standard monaco and skyway stadium are perfect for melee players fighting in the map because of how nearly all the cashouts are in tight buildings. melee and ranged players need to have aspects to cover there own weaknesses in terms of the cashout. ranged heavy needs more destruction, and melee heavy needs more ranged damage options. just so that those gadgets can cover the weaknesses of players attacking/defending from all other aspects of terrain. for medium its almost the same story for melee weapons you can never do enough damage up close that by the time you try to charge at someone with melee you get mowed down before you even get halfway through their health. however for ranged you at least have dematerializer to be able to peek into buildings. so its pretty obvious for why medium doesn't use riot shield/dual blades more often. we need to fix both of these aspect for those different playstyles otherwise. the game with either be ranged sided or melee sided, either of which is not fun for everyone involved. and the reason why people respond to others ideas is to tweak/rework those ideas to try and make them better. the people who scream nerf/buff X aren't gonna explain the issues fully of why X isn't good/too OP. we humans are bias, and its best to weed out those bias to make the game fun for all.

[smoky gust]

i kinda like this idea too
you either take better general survivability with heal beam
or you get a better chance to turn the tides/avoid wipes should things go south

defib synergieses incredibly well with healbeam, but you cant pick them both anymore, so it will make their downsides actually matter

@night vortex
we dont have special/costumiseable revive animations yet, not sure if thats much work
but its likely better to just do something else

and while my last idea is pretty similar to yours, i do think it shouldnt be baked in, as it will likely impact regular gameplay a lot and may end up being disruptive (alongside possibly being another factor that might confuse new players, as this seems a bit arbitrary next to obvious stuff like hp/speed for size difference)

[glad ore]

Remove Kyoto from the map pool. Nothing about playing on it is fun. It's too big, you spawn too far away from anything, the destructables never despawn so you get perf issues on any of the moving platform variants, and the terrain quickly becomes untraversable. It's pretty, but it's easily the worst map in the game.

[dim root]

medium has the best and worst weapons/gadgets out of any class at the same time

[violet elbow]

allow us to shade sights to basic colors like white

[frigid niche]

When are we going to be able to save outfits and styles???

[twin yew]

Getting the dreaded Error Code TFLA0028, no longer able to launch the game. Even tried re-installing. Such a shame as it was the only game I play.

[night vortex]

I would agree with that except for the fact that we already have a passive of sorts in the lights. They heal 3 seconds earlier than the other classes. I think passives like that could bring out the identity of the classes even more and help new players decide what they want to play. Having the special revive gives the medium the support identity that embark seems to want them to have. Give the heavies a passive like resistance to explosives or CC and you have a pretty well rounded roster. All it takes is a little text blurb when making a new contestant to get the passives in the head of the new player.

This on top of opening up a slot for mediums to express themselves more when building a loadout. Effectively, the medium only has two gadget slots in their current state. I think making it a specialization is fine, too.

And we do have an animation for the defib revive already. Just having them stand there and do the charge and press with the paddles could be the passive revive animation for mediums.

[quick coyote]

Finally get cash out back for ranked and now I’m too afraid to start a ranked match in fear of getting put on Kyoto and getting penalized for quitting after ridiculous lag. Is it such a hard thing to take it off the map pool until things get fixed?

[sleek flame]

I agree on the stun and sword thing

What the light really needed was for the glitch grenade to remain viable

[violet matrix]

Delete CL-40 IS SO PATHETIC GUN

[young hamlet]

Defib idea:
Revives teammates at full health, HOWEVER they can be shot while loading back in, taking slightly less damage (25% less?) since they can't move

[tired escarp]

better anti-cheat when? Because cheater are really getting out of hand now

[simple hull]

whoever decided grenade launcher should be buffed, should be fired

[signal tide]

Nerf CL-40 and Pike pls and fix mesh shield

[cold lotus]

make a cheater game mode for cheaters and add them ranked matches to see who has better cheats for exclusive weapon skins, tired of seeing them in my ranked match

[restive crescent]

the 50 headshots from 50+ meters would be easy, if the game was not insanely blurry on that distance

[rough hinge]

No.... Leave them as they are, but make it a secondary to the medgun.

Want to use defibs? you have to use medgun and make it a right click option along side medgun.

[shy current]

balance is dogshit rn

[verbal isle]

Am I the only one whose game crashes every 30 minutes?

[slow adder]

bring back nuke sa1216 meta

[ivory junco]

At minimum add a seperate volume for CL40, the constant explosions of teams of CL40s is just drilling

[deep sierra]

Buff the fcar. I don’t care about anything else please buff it

[solemn sedge]

Make heavy not doodoo. As a 2 time diamond 1 as heavy I can confirm that playing heavy rn is a far cry from seasons 1 and even 2. I play light now and I drill down every heavy I see almost instantly with the new shotgun. Idk what buffs exactly heavy needs but it dies really quickly. Like in plat rn I’m victimizing those poor big fellows. 😢

[surreal meadow]

**EMBARK!!

DROP 5v5 CASH

AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!!! Day 29/100 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥**

@young canopy EXACTLY

[young canopy]

5v5 cashout would be hell

[winter sparrow]

This game is done for already

[smoky gust]

Personally i think that health regen still fits quit well into the size categories
But revive speed would only be faster on mediun which i find less than ideal

And revive speed messes a bunch with counterplay, which should not come for free

I really want to use more varied loadouts, but as long as defib is still as strong as it is i dont see that happening
I hope it gets changed soon

[simple hull]

hammer needs less range

[quartz cedar]

fix performance, it was literally better in S3

[gritty thistle]

I´m not much of a ranked or WT player. I do like to play WT sometimes. BI and PS are most fun modes but I could use a new casual game mode. Here is my idea for a Domination style game mode . What do you think about it?

[tall geode]

renerf gl. No skill aoe ape weapon

[versed cloud]

Nerf CL NERF MODEL NERF PIKE

[wooden holly]

Can we get rid of the charm holder if there is no charm selected? is kinda weird lookin

[dense agate]

Why is smoke grenade cooldown 50 seconds? drop that to 20 or 30 please jesus christ. every other grenade is 20 seconds or 30 seconds. and sonar even is 45. Smoke has insanely less useability and is still at 50 second cooldowns is insane. 3 charges dont help if you dont have any for the next 2-3 fights to even bring them.

[wanton phoenix]

Keep adding banger soundtracks please and thank you

[frank gull]

*M is a ranged contestant & is having trouble dealing with incoming damage

Never ran sledge, but you bring up great points as to why Dome shouldn't have been nerfed & needs to be reverted for defense along with mesh, both only elevated player, & squad potential.

*H has RPG, But having another gadget solely for damage might still be balanced due to the unreliability of RPG, however I still hope it gets reworked to get a extra bullet & 2x multiplayer to breach & in game Objects, but 50 DMG a projectile

Wench should pop bubbles & stun mesh for 3 seconds (upon popping mesh it reloads faster), & reverted to keep its range. I don't use it, but I heard it was nerfed again.

I don't think *M should get a similar Gadget, it already has a few mobility gadgets & most weapons are ranged Blades just need a rework to be more consistent.
Depending on jumpad, & Zipline isn't viable.
Ziplines are Very easy to destroy, & jumpad take to long on cooldown & you will be easy to out run.

Jump pad & mines cooldown should be 15sec

I've never played TF2 but it might work, however aiming for 50% of *M health may work best.

[simple parrot]

screw it, bring back recon senses. throw throw the whole game off balance

[sonic spoke]

Increase CL-40 self damage please. if i shot 4 rpgs at this range i would get 720 self damage. (we won anyway in over time :))

[solemn sedge]

MORE ELEVATORS
I LOVE ELEVATORS
RAAAAAAAHHHH!
(pretty please)

[mossy cape]

season 3lh1 got nerfed in a week meanwhile pike stays as it is 🤔

[wintry oyster]

Light:
The Light is decent but not great in its current state. Its main role focuses on securing kills rather than supporting the team. While the glitch and sonar provide some utility, they feel like the only viable option in team-based play. The Gateway isn’t as viable due to its short duration, and the tracking dart feels too situational. As a result, Lights end up focusing more on themselves, especially when queuing solo, with little incentive for teamwork. Regarding the special abilities, two out of the three are functional, but invisibility has become far less effective. It’s too visible and the activation sound is way too loud, making it easy to predict. A potential fix would be to mute the ability entirely, which would improve its effectiveness by making it less predictable and more valuable.

Medium:
The Medium is currently overpowered. It excels at nearly everything, which makes it too versatile. It has access to well-balanced assault rifles, a strong no-aim weapon like the CL-40, a powerful DMR, and an exceptional shotgun. These weapons cover all situations, and the only real weakness of the Medium class—destruction—is somewhat mitigated by the dematerializer. The class’s versatility makes it too dominant, in my opinion. Additionally, the defibrillator is in need of a significant nerf, especially for in-combat use. It’s unreasonable that three Mediums can continuously revive and heal each other with minimal downtime. The recent CL-40 buff also established one weak point in form of the APS (the only counter), which gets destroyed way too quickly.

Heavy:
The Heavy is the most balanced of the three. It has a more interesting specialization when it comes to weapon choice, with non-aiming weapons like the flamethrower and sledge being the most effective. The RPG nerf has helped balance the class further. Overall, I find the Heavy to be in a good place, with clear strengths and weaknesses that feel fair in most situations.

[cloud jungle]

Give controller a separate interact binding instead of interact and equip weapon

Let console see text chat

Fix low shadows breaking smoke

[tepid violet]

Good feedback. Thanks 🙏🏾

[gritty bough]

Embark!
You gave us leg tattoos and no shorts to show them off! Please give us black shorts (Like the ones from the summer bundle (Beach of Decorum set, but in black) and more leg tattoos! please

[gleaming gust]

i now understand why people say the cl40 is op

[simple hull]

this team has no sense of how to balance. weapons with no reload like throwing knives shouldn't do so much damage, aoe like gl? less damage, think for a second

[cold bolt]

ngl pike is a much bigger problem than cl40, no other gun lets you completely hold down a grav-isolated point to the extent pike does. If you're in higher elos and dont have like invis or tp or heavy mesh you just lose bc at least one or two ppl are gonna die on the gravs

idk what they were thinking with this gun, need hard dmg + range nerf, games ruled by Aim*rs (disgusting) are boring af, if I wanted a game ruled primarily by raw mechanics I wouldn't be playing the finals

[mellow geyser]

Random unskilled grenades are not fun. Bulletproof charge and slam is not fun.

[somber axle]

You can still shoot heavies who using Charge and slam, its not bulletproof

[strong crag]

you're not the only one
each match is a gamble whether it's going to start the match or crash

[glass cradle]

Devs, nerf cl40 asap. Pike at least requires aiming, but that thing is impossible to play against

[last mirage]

I mean yes dome and mesh shield was good for squad potential however whatever is good for melee, tends to be better with ranged. right now for ranged players dome is nearly perfectly balanced just the way it is (mesh not so.) to use it with melee isn't good at all to use. so if heavy players benefit from having defenses overall, then lets try to make melee heavy have some ranged damage gadgets that would be pointless for primary ranged weapons. I also hope that they focus on the RPG to do more destruction than damage, since ranged players need a way to get into a tight cashout buildings without entering the effective area of melee players holding out. I semi agree about winch. winch should just yoink dome shields away from the enemy team and stun specialization for 2 seconds whenever people get grabbed. however when you do get grabbed you can still use the primary while getting grabbed. when that happens then the 15m distant feels justified. because there is a way to avoid/counter the punishment from winch heavy currently, is just by specialization alone for light and heavys getting grabbed. with these changes it doesn't make the winch claw this "stun gun 2.0" in terms of balancing for ranged players fighting the winch but makes it fair for people who steal your teammates out from under you. I don't play enough melee medium to fully understand the hardships of using it competitively. however I believe you when you say medium blades should just be buffed a bit.

[opaque glade]

PLEASE make the S3 engimo set a SET and the CNS clothing a SET too please!!! those are some of the most fire clothes that you've made that are WITHOUT SHOES. PLEASE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

[shrewd brook]

Death comms would be so ELITE and clan tags🤌🏽

[uneven dagger]

heavies still arent fun, deagles are but heavies just arent

[night vortex]

I’d kill for proximity chat in this game.

[restive nest]

ranked is lowkey unplayable right now wth

[proper barn]

It is quite literally impossible to climb in diamond in asian servers with the amount of cheaters. LITERALLY

[junior igloo]

the whole point of light is that they are fraggers. "support light" just isnt a thing. if you're trying to play light as support ur doing it wrong. Gateway is OP im not sure what ur talking about. You clearly weren't here in previous seasons, where invis cloak drove mad half the playerbase. Now its in a decent spot; it isn't op and it still provides decent utility and serves its purpose.

I would agree that many medium weapons need nerfs, mostly the pike and model, i think the ars are in a good spot.

The whole point of the light class is that it has a high skill cap. Its designed as the LIGHTweight fast low survivability build, so obviously it requires skill to execute well

[calm edge]

You never know. It might and that's what I'm hopping for.

[clear vale]

Did anyone else get this bug?

When you aim down the sight using the M60

[glacial sierra]

hurr durr sbmm

[fierce valve]

Give us a week or two of playing Quick Cash or Powershift with Sponsor Based Matchmaking please.

[celest berry]

Its embarrassing how long Embark needs to fix the game

• CL lowest skill weapon that can beat basicly every gun close range // where is the self dmg its basicly 0
• Model has probably more effective range than an assault rifle
• Sword (dash) is completly out of touch if a really good player wields it just nerf dash from 3 to 2 charges or make the dash distance shorter / make dash cancel the righclick charge

Give us a Skillbased meta back like s2 was and not this lowskill shit
Melee weapons should not compete with Assault rifles in an FPS GAME

[wintry oyster]

I don’t want a support light. I want a light that can give something to the team instead of only running around playing solo and raging about how bad every m8 is.
I‘ve been here since season 1 and would call myself a decent player with all three classes even though I of course don’t nail every playstyle with them.
I find it refreshing that since the implementing of the cash-in-reward the light actually can play objective differently then just fragging.
Gateway may be good for yourself but I was talking about team utility.
Invisibility is straight up garbage. The amount of lights I kill who run around „invisible“ is laughable and I don’t think it should be this way. Invis was too strong in season 1 fs but it’s just not viable anymore in my opinion.
Thinking of the light as a fragger makes it only useful for ppl with high skill cap. There are so much lights out there who frag way less then most mediums or heavies even in terms of quality instead of quantity. This class is just not versatile enough in my opinion. It got better but it’s still too strict.

[somber axle]

Is that a minigun? 😳 (also no i havent encountered that bug)

[daring fossil]

it wouldn't work in the practice range since the dummies aren't real people affected by ping. Just because you can't do it in the practice range, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. like a dozen people said it happens all the time and you're still like "sEnD Me A cLiP oF YoU dOiNg It In ThE PrAcTiCe RaNgE"

@jagged cedar indeed, which is why it doesn't work in the practice range, but I literally have a clip of me staring at a light run up to me, and he stabbed me and I died. I was watching him THE ENTIRE TIME.

@quartz cedar I will literally sift through 5 hours of clips to find that they do.

[restive crescent]

revert cl-40 buffs

[jagged cedar]

getting stabbed in the face is caused by the same issue that kills me when im behind an opponent. It goes both ways

[royal maple]

new map cant shoot through the floor even when making new holes, cant even fall through it

[quartz cedar]

It is due to ping difference and the time it takes to send data from one player, to the server, to the other player. You said it yourself.
The light is behind you on his screen, while it may appear to you as if he is in front, so no, backstabs do not work from the front.

[tepid hazel]

self damage is 80 you've clearly never used it

[clear hemlock]

Yes nerf good players so then everyone performs equally and there is no challenge. Might as well buff bad players as well. The point of games is to roll a dice and hope to win a fight not to be better than the other player

[sleek flame]

Who cares the damage is 117 and averages 86-89 per shot if missed near the target. People brain dead just jumps, run, and spam literally every sec. It is the lowest skill weapon as @celest berry said

[uneven rampart]

Game will die if Medium is continuing being at this state

[thin heart]

💀

[vivid bridge]

Someone explain why I have no teammates in ranked and then lose and go down in rank

[gritty thistle]

[potent solar]

for the love please don't nerf the dash ability again because of the sword... nerf the right click. that's the issue

[junior igloo]

how is gateway not good for team utility? you can literally tp ur entire team right into a cashout. And the whole point of the light class is that it has a high skill cap. Its designed as the LIGHTweight fast low survivability build, so obviously it requires skill to execute well. I think in general everyone has different opinions on light balancing because of this large skill range. Light requires dedication and time to get good with. If you want something easy just run winch sledge or smth

[thorn flume]

As a light main myself I agree with this

[glacial sierra]

playing in servers full of people trying to get that fuckin' headshot from 50m challenge is so stupid. would love to see the stats since it was given to people.

i cannot fathom why y'all keep doing the opposite of what you say you're trying to achieve lol

[amber grove]

why is the xp-54 so bad, i bought the volcano skin for it last season and couldnt even buy the battlepass this season and now its so bad i dont even use the gun anymore

[wintry oyster]

It’s not about making the light easy, it’s about making him more versatile.
But I agree with you, that everyone thinks to know what’s best for a given class/weapon/gadget.
I am just giving my input with my impression.
If nobody agrees with me and all stays the same or goes a different route because of this, that’s fine by me.
It’s not like I think the light is plain bad or a useless teammate.

[nimble kiln]

Correct

[cold bolt]

pike more like die

[latent pecan]

the 50 headshots at 50 metres is the most boring contract yet

[warm glade]

day one of asking for input-based matchmaking

[wintry trout]

buff CL40 by making it do essentially 0 damage to self, unlike every other explosive weapon
buff CL40 by making it do essentially 10 million damage to others
?
profit?

[thorny parcel]

Cloak is such a pain to play against. Make it a one time use and then needs to fully recharge before another use.

Yall saying cardboard 4 are just a bunch of cloak lights in dirt 4. The special is not strong just stupid and should function differently.
It sometimes does not even work as the Light intended with how it will randomly be plainly visible with the shimmer when they are standing still lol.

[young hamlet]

CL40 nerf when?

[torpid sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714245295659024397/1251977229378781275/Card.gif

[wooden shuttle]

REAAAAL (Nerf CL40 fr game is unplayable)

[quiet quarry]

CL40 NERF
at least make it do proper self damage like rpg

[onyx crystal]

tbh dropping an activated grenade if you die would be so much better than it just dissapearing, especially in lag where you feel like it definitely should have been thrown

[wet herald]

Who thought making the cl40 do more damage than a rpg was a good idea? And almost no self damage?

[tardy tundra]

Cl40 is ridiculous

[coarse dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714245295659024397/1251977229378781275/Card.gif

[quartz cedar]

Nerf CL-40, let them lose their games with honor, playing a real weapon

[magic yew]

i should not get into a game 3 times in a row with someone i reported twice for not contributing and making us lose the ranked games, i left when i saw him on our team for a fourth time in a row and now im banned and dropped 1500 elo bc of a dumb teammate that just stares at a wall all game, please fix your system

[quick coyote]

Nerf CL 40 it's so boring the finals rn

[autumn lily]

Nerf the heavy’s

[vestal prairie]

Promptly arrest the scholar that buffed the cl40

[verbal tide]

Nerf the heavys please it makes the game un playable if not, at least nerf the heavy guns

[finite galleon]

i embed failed but you can probably tell what i sent

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714245295659024397/1251977229378781275/Card.gif

[viral abyss]

"For the Final developers here in the chat, Is there any plans for a horde mode, like a zombie's mode in the finals; corporative mode like 5v5 but a hole lot of zombies" this was my recommendation from the general chat comming here

[minor wave]

GAME BREAKING BUG
Pyrogrenade has a bug where if you hit the Riot Shield with it, the Riot Shield will be set on fire.
This issue has existed since the Riot Shield was released and has only been getting worse. In season 3 there were 2 ways to counter it: get healed and have someone throw smoke at you.
Now that healing has been reduced, the healing beam can overheat while trying to save the Riot Shield resulting in a free kill for the enemy, wasted time for the Healing Beam User, and a dead Riot Shield.
I was told to make it clear that I DO NOT THINK YOU SHOULD REVERT THE HEALING CHANGE, I think you should finally fix the bug you’ve ignored for the last year.
With how the bug works, Riot Shield cannot switch off their weapon to save themself, if they get revived fast enough they will continue burning to death, the bug can be applied to DEAD Riot Shields making their statues ON FIRE and then subsequently setting the Riot Shield on fire anyway after being revived.
All of these instances I’m referring to aren’t free ticks of fire damage, it is an active flame stuck to your model that WILL KILL YOU.
Please stop ignoring Riot Shield. This is why everyone hates it.

Also make the Shield active when interacting. It was a genuinely amazing mechanic and you just need to make the shield visible to make it balanced.

[lunar coyote]

Nerf the turret

[unborn garnet]

WE NEED A DAMN SEVER UPDATE HERE NOW
MY SCREEN GOES BLACK MID GAME, SAYS ITS CONNEXTING OTHER CONTESTANTS WHILE I CAN STILL HEAR MY TEAMMATES AND FIGHTING GOING ON IN GAME WITH MY VAULT IN MY HANDS
I THEN AM FORCED TO CLOSE THE GAME, RELAUNCH TO RECONNECT. I THEN RECONNECT TO AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT GAME WITH DIFFERENT TEAMMATES
IM FUCKING DONE WITH THIS SHIT MAN

[brittle obsidian]

even after all the balance adjustments heavies can still drool on their keyboard and instakill anybody in melee range. astounding

[thorny parcel]

I have to know. Do yall actually think Cloak is a healthy special for the game as it is?
It just seems like an inconsistent special that allows for cheap kills on casual teams and only barely helps Light in high elo games even if it is the only viable high elo special.

My proposal would be:

Longer use time. Like half a minute or more. (Maybe not that much).
Can walk and possibly run while cloaked.
No visible shimmer whatsoever so the map colors cannot screw the Light over.
Plays the cloak sound consistently in any movement state (maybe not when crouched and/or walking. I would personally try it without a sound first in those states).
Attacking while cloaked reduces attacks damage output until cloak is fully off.
Can run over mines without setting them off.
Cloak must fully recharge before being able to be used again.

[young hamlet]

PLEASE buff the riot shields hitbox. This is bs. An m60 just outright ignored my shield

[surreal meadow]

its not a skill diff its a game knowledge diff (in low elo); getting killed by a ghost isnt fun for "traditional" FPS gamers

the core issue is the HP value of Light - cloak is the bandaid fix, fix the HP value & adjust the hitbox obscurement (+ other stats) if you dont want elos to have different opinions on balancing; it would be ok if it didnt cause 90% of the playerbase to leave

[undone dagger]

tracking dart time stacks per shot??

[compact skiff]

CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40CL40NERF

[wintry trout]

constant hard freezes every like 30 seconds
game hard crashes, load back in, more hard freezes every 30 seconds

realize making TA the ranked mode was completely fucktarded
make cash out the ranked mode again
oops all CL40

[warm glade]

give the cl40 incendiary dmg ticks

[hazy hemlock]

after the timer hits zero, if there are any cashboxes in the air, the game dosent end, kinda like the thing with the ball in rocket leauge. I do belive if it is caught the timer should end tho,

[magic widget]

Fire suggestion?

[rose verge]

Fucktarded

[ornate horizon]

Xbox moment

[storm siren]

nerf the easiest gun in the game to use... the CL40\

[remote swallow]

Please get rid of the 50 Headshots at 50 Meters, y'all already nerfed the sniper that everyone is going to use to get the contract.

[lunar coyote]

nerf, turret, and heavy

[signal shard]

i have no clue how to do the 5 kills at 40 meters with gadgets, its so stupid

[hazy shore]

remove the cl40, the model, the pike, invis nade, & cloak & this game will feel so much better. @tepid hazel says the skilless medium who needs a noobtube to kill anything

[tepid hazel]

light player complaining about the cl40 lmao
skill issue

[restive nest]

cl40 prob shouldnt be in the game, -medium main.
its the most I dont want to play the game, thing ever. its so dumb

[tiny bear]

me and my friends are silver and we just got into a ranked lobby with 2 teams that were triple stacked with plats. plz fix match making in this game this is ridiculous

[crisp oxide]

plz nerf cl40 and the triple medium defib meta hurts

[hexed grove]

For fucking real, I'm actually getting fed up with how Medium has gotten no "noticable" nerfs, and only buffs which incentivizes the 3x medium playstyle that no-brain sweats use.

[thorny lynx]

Same people that let us have 2 grenades that do 149dmg..... but a ROCKET PROPELED GRENADE does less in this world

[shell raven]

sword being able to two shot mediums from shotgun ranges but without the ammo restrictions of a shotgun and with a faster "fire rate" is absurd

[foggy nymph]

Going through and reading this chat has got to be lowering my IQ

[ripe pike]

is anyone elses game still fucked? disconnecting all the time and getting stuck in the screens between matches?

[wintry trout]

whichever dumbass on the balance team thought this CL40 change was good should be fired and blacklisted from the industry and have to work as a janitor in an underprivileged school in america
imagine balancing an already free weapon in favour of winning 1v1 fights against all other classes instead of balancing it on literally anything that actually makes sense

[quick coyote]

why is the 50 headshots over 50 meters a thing? every weapon has damage falloff 40 meters in

[quartz dirge]

Please add skibidi toilet to the finals

[vocal rampart]

This game has a bug after some games where the crosshair will nolonger be in the centre of the screen.

[solid mica]

pike needs a nerf badly its insane to me how players standing still can just out DPS me just bc they hit 2 shots while im hitting every single one of mine with FCAR or AK just insane

[rose verge]

What out of touch sycophant profession idiot goober decided to make the CL-40 do more damage than the rpg, more damage than any gun and it has splash damage and negligible reload times per shell and whoever did that should slam their nuts in a stapler on a daily basis as punishment for being such a grossly incompetent goof, the people who still haven’t reverted the changes despite every feedback comment practically begging for it, y’all should be ashamed of yourself almost as much as we are ashamed to be playing this dumpster trash game

[gaunt perch]

I'm starting to document bugs and issues with the Riot Shield in this bug report thread. https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1292321665664946176
I've just uploaded a video of clips. Hopefully this is what the devs need to finally do something about the shield. I've been pleading for the shield's issues to be seriously addressed. I hope the devs take a look, and I'll keep uploading more footage when I can.

[cedar eagle]

CL-40 main since OB here, just ran a tourney with 3 CLs (2 turret, 1 heal) and might have been the dirtiest win I have ever had in this game. Projectile weaponry should inherently have lower usage stats than standard fire arms. imo, CL-40 should be a fairly niche skill based weapon - good for those that thrive on prediction over direct aim, but not whatever the hell this current broken mess is. Please nerf CL-40. Fix my baby.

[junior igloo]

right, its not like the sword takes 1 second to charge, 1 second to reach the enemy, another second for the animation to finish, and that twice compared to a fucking GUN that has zero spread and two shots the 150 hp munchkin before it even recovers from the first lunge

[drowsy wharf]

Always pondering that wacky game balance, you're gonna end up making the howitzer either totally unused or the most powerful gun out there, packing a punch with its range, damage, and the power to take down both people and buildings. Shifting things around each day isn't improving anything. Someone might've mentioned to you that game balance is a real laugh riot.

[restive crescent]

revert cl-40 buffs, if you guys dont, expect to start losing players and all the retention you guys got with this season go away

[near lava]

LMFAOO

[worn arch]

XD

[cold forum]

Still don’t have my rewards. My disappointment is immense. I once failed to save a man from drowning once. The look on his face will be forever encumbered in my brain.

[rapid stream]

WHAT

[lunar coyote]

for fucks sake please nerf turrets

[uneven dagger]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BUFF CL

[craggy prawn]

LMAO

[tender arch]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NERF CL

Make dmg falloff with splash much higher, and increase personal damage when shooting the ground. An M v M, if the CL shoots the ground to win, should kill CL player before killing other M.

A POWERFUL ALTERNATIVE: Make the CL the RPG for the Mediums. You yourselves, Embark, changed the RPG so that it became a wall-destroyer (AS INTENDED!), not a strictly PVP weapon - why don't you do the same for CL? Make it an ability, like the RPG, which has 4 rounds and needs a regen thereafter?

P.S, seeing comments below: @clear hemlock CL, yes, agree. fire rate needs a nerf and/or the same bullet speed as sniper. Weird that one sharpshooter has that bullet speed and others don't.

P.P.S: @upper citrus not 100% sure. Can't dispute it but my firsthand experience inclines me to disagree.

[elfin dock]

guys instead of nerfing cl all start playing with it

[hearty wadi]

Because it doesn’t have to be a headshot kill. Just hit the headshot so that you get the yellow headshot hit marker and it counts.

[clear hemlock]

I dont get why people say nerf CL but we never mention pike? Cl is annoying sure but Pike is actually broken

[warm bluff]

I just want a terminator skin and sight for duel deagles 😔

[upper citrus]

The cl player does die first btw assuming the other player is doing damage. Which would be weird to not be doing damage that close up

[naive fulcrum]

customize your crosshair, you don't ADS with deagles, you zoom in slightly when "ADS"ing with them, your crosshair IS your sight

[frank gull]

Embark raised the damage
&
AOE
While elevating Range weapons, but took away utility from support and defense.
Mesh shield was the best tool against ranged weapons, same with dome. Now grenade launchers are meta & the only tool that can deal with them received a nerf that only makes sense in power shift.
APS should tank more projectiles.
CL-40 is way to easy to Combo & takes Far less skill than another other automatic, Simi automatic in the game. That ranged weapon shouldn't be used so effortlessly close range.

In a game where Mobility matters, as much as I LOVE the new scopes it killed the XP, & FCAR unique factor, CL Has amazing close range & good mobility due to being able to spam
Maybe you should listen to the complaints brother.

Braindead Hipfire weapons belong on Heavy & *L close range weapon.
CL - 40 is just to easy to use with the only real downside being if opponent gets the high ground which is true for every other weapon...
Instead of allowing FCAR, & XP - 54 to be the king of range they gave the crown to the CL - 40.
Unless you want to address the elephant in the room that is the pike...
#👂┇game-feedback message

Side Note:
If you actually watch until the end you'll see I only lose half health empting a clip at point blank range... (2M)

It's beating weapons like the model, & R. 357 giving you the best of both worlds, while Pike completely out shines R. 357.
S4 weapon balance meta threw a wrench in what was working & didn't help the overall pacing returning players worked so hard to figure out.

I understand new season = new meta for most games, but those are only around for 1 year then left to a skeleton crew to make updates for bugs & cosmetics.

Embark made a board game & is free to shuffle the cards how they want, but it feels like they took fundamental things from the board like go straight to Jail or collect 200 when you pass go. It just messes with how the game plays out feeling like something different entirely.

Conclusion -
CL - 40 is a problem for the masses
&
Pike is a issue in "High Elo"

The only time I ran into was playing in a sweaty lobby, the CL - 40 is probably a issue for people with low map awareness, solo q, or just skill issue.

[lyric frost]

ranked and WT is completely unplayable as everybody runs the broken meta medium teams (CL-40/Pike/Model + Defib + Healing Beam)
I believe defib should be massively nerfed in those gamemodes.

[void blade]

Embark, ive come up with something cool. What if instead of recharging over time for free, the defibrillator recharged immediately every time you got an elimination? I think it would make the defibrillator reward good gameplay and be less of a get back in the fight for free card.
@viscid raft you just dont want your free revive to get nerfed 🫤
We both know they wont do that 😂
@ionic sand finally someone whos not just here to argue. That other guy has no idea how balance works

[viscid raft]

terrible idea
make equipment and specializations not charge when you're dead
@void blade that's a buff????
I don't even play medium lmfao
a better NERF to the defib would be putting it on a 3 min cooldown so you can't get it mid fight
neither will they do that

[ionic sand]

CL needs a slower reload, or a 1rnd reduction i think. OR a flat AOE damage reduction (direct impacting is hard, that dmg is fine). APS is in a great spot, needs a redeployment-after-picking-up cooldown though. DMR needs way heavier of a damage fall off, like the LH1

@viscid raft @void blade 3min is insane, 1:30 raw between revives, elims reduce by 30s, store up to 3 (5s cooldown inbetween), 66% revive HP for Lights/50% for Medium/33% for Heavies (encourages reviving tactically, instead of directly on an objective), and lower the goddamn regen cooldown by like 2s for heavies because 10 seconds is, frankly, ridiculous

@glacial storm @hearty wadi agreed, the recent buff lowered the skill floor of the weapon to the actual floor, it requires very little skill to use even kinda effectively, and it obliterates even Heavies at basically any distance you can arc a grenade to, it was so unnecessary.

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[torpid vault]

Give CL a better internal magazine, no damage reduction ever, lower Pike's recoil and double the RPM. Et voilà ; game's fair and balanced. Alternatively, make Heavy's movement speed even slower.

[fading flame]

Please nerf pike and akm

[drifting acorn]

can I have a match where my teammates aren’t morons

[daring fossil]

this contract is broken, I've resorted to sniper because it hasn't counted any headshots from any other weapons ive tried, im making sure im taking engagements beyond 50m and it's still not tracking. literally throwing games trying to get this shit.

[glacial storm]

CL-40 getting both its max damage radius AND its max damage increased so much was so out of line, the 30cm max damage radius lets you just shoot at enemies feet in duels, hitting the ground near them and still dealing full damage. i can understand trying to make it a more "high still" weapon. but increasing its max damage radius so much did the exact opposite.

[young hamlet]

I'm not even asking anymore
REMOVE KYOTO FROM THE MAP POOL

[hearty wadi]

I used to enjoy playing this game. How can a dev team with so many W’s take the fattest L of the year? The new weapons are well over tuned, the cl40 buff was undoubtedly the worst decision i think I’ve had to deal with in a game in a long time and you did this AFTER nerfing its counter to the ground. Seriously. Do you only nerf/buff things assuming they’re in a 1v1 situation? An APS in its current state MIGHT be enough to stop one loser with the CL but not their two teammates and probably the other effin teams too! My aps basically gets placed and instantly evaporates because of the nade spam. Whose idea
was this? What were they thinking???

[wispy axle]

Dear Embark,

I've been a part of The Finals since the open beta and to see how far you guys have come and how much care you take when listening to community feedback is unmatched by any other studio. The amount of content thats been put out for free-to-play players is so refreshing to see, the amount of secrets, easter eggs, skin variety, and quick balance patches is insanely appreciated. I bought the battle pass in S1 and have been able to grind to not have to purchase it ever since just from the pass rewards this amount of choice, grinding options, in-game events, sponsorships, and game modes this game offers is what makes this truly one of the best games out there today. I hope you continue to stick down this path of giving 110% because thats what makes me want to spend more on in-game purchases and support every livestream because I see the effort and care.

Wishing yall the best,
Fellow Holtow Contestant

[silk shadow]

add bungholes, still hasnt happened

[night geode]

please optimize this game better.
i am not trying to run this game on a potato

[sleek flame]

I didn’t t know the cl-40 also makes a smoke cloud, yeah put that weapon on the dirt

[subtle solar]

Buff cl-40

[azure canyon]

BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40BUFF CL-40

[amber grove]

cl-40 should get 40 rounds and the firerate should be that of the m11 tbh its still very weak

[compact skiff]

Personally I think the CL-40 should also invis you like a light whenever you reload

[mossy cape]

no one likes playing kyoto just remove it from the map pool

[daring fossil]

why does the sniper have bloom? I've never used it because it felt so bad to use in the betas. Now im using it to try to get the stupid 50 headshot achievement which im almost certain isn't tracking at this point and the sniper has random deviation when scoped?!?! I have thousands of hours in counter-strike and I grew up sniping with the scout and the awp and this shit is terrible. I understand it's ballistic after 40m now, but that's not what im talking about.

[runic knot]

when are yall gonna fix the TFGE0000 error

[modern ether]

nerf pika, sword, and cl-40 ty

[brisk garden]

pls remove kyoto

[random drift]

Could I please request a plain blue tank top cosmetic and as a 'Upper back' cosmetic item a quiver.
Then I can complete my Lara Croft look-alike outfit.

[night vortex]

Can we also get what @silk shadow requested for his cosplay of Lara Croft? Lara isn’t complete without a bunghole

[burnt roost]

We need more of this. This game is such a fucking blessing and I'm so glad to be playing it.

[shut cosmos]

I’m not a casual by any means. But after a night of drinking I wanted to play some quick cash. I joined 4 games and 4 times in a row I was backfilled into a game on the final cash out.

This is a horrible experience for anyone. But it would be especially terrible for new players who aren’t familiar with the game. This needs fixing. Punish leavers.

[flat saddle]

I second this despite my complaints about occasional issues with things like balance.

[mental dagger]

GL nerffff!!!!!!!!

[limpid ocean]

can heavy just have light movement? I think this will benefit the gaming community as a whole.

[frozen merlin]

Day 1 of asking for a barret 50 cal for the heavy

[ember forum]

I'll do horrible things for akimbo revolvers

[plain kiln]

Sugestion; Mediums share defib cooldowns, in order to stop chain defibs a shared cooldown would give 3 mediums 1 defib per fight which is more then fair.. we are heading to a tripple medium meta if something is not ajusted

[quick coyote]

nerf CL-40, quick cash is unplayable

[rustic tusk]

Idea for a gadget: Something that can reenforce a wall so it can't be broken. Maybe a medium thing?

[dry herald]

powershift is abysmal to play too rn

[night vortex]

Keep CL40 the same. Using it to ruin everyone’s day is so much fun. Defib+CL40 is free wins, thank you Embark.

[native stream]

That would be dope.

[daring fossil]

this is going to be the first contract I don't complete, and I have completed every contract everyone has ever complained about before they were changed to something trivial in comparison. probably 6 hours of trying, the last 2 hours of that resorted to the sniper which is the worst feeling sniper I've ever used in 20+ years of FPS games just to finally get 1.

[neon kettle]

hi, I definitely didn't want to say this, but I really wanted to check what all the fuss was about the cl40, I've played against it in S4, but not played with, and now that I've done that, I agree, it's just too much

[limpid ocean]

remove defib and med gun and pike and GT and jump pad and zipline and trophy and CL and the Medium class should be balanced🙃 🤙

[tender harbor]

True

[hollow ore]

Add a medieval knight skin but like a classic one not too flashy

[cerulean bane]

Nice Season
Cool map
Did not Got Crashed
My friend's game is working again
Yall Really Did something to make the community happy
Recommend 👍
And also The New profile thingys are super cool

[daring fossil]

performance tanked in 3.14, they still haven't fixed it yet, meta is toxic as ever, they buffed shit that didn't need buffed and didn't nerf anything that needed nerfed. Map looks cool but literally has the worst traversal ever, even worse than vegas, netcode continues to get worse, game breaking bugs remain unfixed, but I'm glad some people can tolerate it.

[stuck fox]

i’ve had no game performance issues - s4 is the best yet. super fun season and map is cool with its mirrors edge vibe.

[rugged temple]

3.14 lag issues still haven't been resolved... 😔

[glacial storm]

should be able to change sights on weapons at the start of the match

[swift gust]

same thing happens in the new glass map Fortune stadium. Despite mentioning that they improved performance, they actually worsened it. It seems like Embark doesnt give a damn about performance and forcing players to buy expensive CPUs. Its as if they are saying "if you want to play this poorly optimized game then purchase new cpu because we dont care to optimize the game since we are lazy to do it". UE5 is the worst optimized engine. UE4 would have worked much better

[glacial salmon]

"We dont wanna OP the 93R so we gonna barely make it average so it cant even kill a Light"

"We gonna buff the CL40 because our OCD says it needs it 2-3 shotting Lights and mediums"

Just say you suck the medium's dicks and we will forgive you.

[wise falcon]

I just completed the "Eliminate 5 opponents from 40 meters or more using gadgets" on powershift. I started with 0/5 and by the time I had 2 kils the challenge was complete. I think maybe the glitch grenade is what did it but I can't be sure. Idk what else it could have been.

[opaque glade]

PLEASE EMBARK. Make the S3 engimo bp robe clothes a SET. PLEASE make the S2 CNS clothes a SET by adding shoes!! PLEASE. IT IS DAPPER.

[quasi dagger]

I think it will be complicated to finish the sponsorship pass. We don't get enough fans at each game, it's not moving forward

[limpid ocean]

im pretty sure it's based off your combat, support, and objective points

[harsh torrent]

Is it that damn hard to nerf cl40?

[cedar eagle]

They hate him because he tells the truth.
I have been maining CL-40 since open beta, and I will second that it is broken right now. I feel like I don't even have to try when using the weapon anymore, and it doesn't feel good to dominate without trying tbh.

[quick coyote]

Dear embark devs I hope u all killyourselfs irl fix ya fucked games the most unbalanced shit ever

[dry raft]

What we asked since season 1 :
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2641470/view/4672012242390920258?l=english
Spectre divide made it

[silent grove]

great game feedback

[wraith orchid]

rn the balance is so bad that it would actually be a step in the right direction to lower medium hp to 200 and heavy to 300.
overall most medium and heavy weapons do too much damage looking at the time to kill a light compared to the ttk a light needs to kill them.
I DONT UNDERSTAND YOU EMBARK. you see the stats but you proceed to nerf light weapons? you nerf the dash which nerfs its MOBILITY which is the only part of light that can make up for this outrageous damage disbalance in the game right now. BUT IN THE LONG TERM YOU NEED TO ADRESS THE DAMAGE DISBALANCE EMBARK.
P.S.: light is and will allways be the most played class bc it is the fastest most mobile and thereby most fun class to play. Yes, it is as easy as that.

Dagger Wishlist:

-You shouldnt be able to climb while charging the dagger, i try so often to backsab someone above me but instead of jumping and stabbing, it tries to climb and my charge gets canceled (VERY IMPORTANT THIS WAS NOT ABLE TO HAPPEN LAST SEASON SO I ASSUME YOU JUST FORGOTT TO PROGRAM IT RIGHT)
-Option to hold and tap backstab like with the throwing knifes
-Always being able to run as last season
-Add a visual indicator of when the backstab is charged
-Remove the audio indicator cus it sounds terrible and you cant hear it mid fight at all.
REVERT THE DASH COOLDOWN NERF

Sniper Wishlist:
raise hitscan range or reverg the nerf completely and just ban the weapon from powershift.

Light Wishlist:
Balance it so that it can make up for the less hp. While burst weapons can benefit from hit and run, you are allways as vulnerable as the m/h/l enemy when using machineguns/pistols

[simple hull]

guess embark is just vacationing skating on battle pass and skin sales not caring that the game is in a trash state where every game has at least two grenade launcher and people are rewarded for not having to aim in their "fps"

[red echo]

Get better

[turbid falcon]

50 Headshots from 50 Metres is an objectively dogshit challenge that doesn't encourage teamplay. And there is almost no time during a match of any mode that any player, even a light sniper, would organically try and fight at that range

[shadow panther]

Fr

[glacial storm]

like sometimes i feel like i dont wanna use the ak sight but i cant swap at the start which is weird bc you can swap literally anything else

[ripe pike]

how are they still having the issue where you cant play with your friends? fix the fucking game

[granite ravine]

I got an idea for a onesie cosmetic bundle. It could be a real money bundle with 2 skins:
So basically it would be like a cartoony cat and dog onesies. For inspiration, look at "pejsek a kočička" on google. It was a Czechoslovak fairy tale for kids, where they did many things like cooking, but I digress.

I think it would be nice to add this into the game, as it fits the theme with other onesies, and you could even do a sort of matching emote for them of some sort? While community won't appreciate locking it behind paywall, I think if you added both onesies into a single, 15$ bundle, with some additional cosmetics (maybe something with a cake, episode with cake was the most popular from the whole tale) and maybe a matching emote, would be nice and increase your earnings by atleast 20 dollars :)

[modern ether]

nerf pika nerf pika nerf pika nerf pika

[plush fjord]

i hope that was just a joke (other than cl40 nerf)

[fallen venture]

Nerf the thermal bore. It does too much destruction!

[silent grove]

melee only mode

[odd ibex]

Dagger quality of life improvents

-Option to BOTH single tap backstabs like before and also hold/prime stab
-Add a visual indicator of when the backstab is charged
-Remove the strange wind in ur ear AUDIO when u charge the dagger secondary cause it sounds terrible and you cant hear it mid fight at all.

there isn’t an accurate visual or audio cue that backstab is ready while holding,ADD a glint to the tip of the dagger blade and a ting sound to show its ready.

U can BOTH single click and hold throwing knife secondary attack but u can’t with dagger stab,plz fix it!!!!

Have grapple hook stick to any surface indefinitely for vertical map positioning

[dusky apex]

plzzzzzzz
improve the hitreg

[torpid sky]

we've tried to do custom games and melee only matches are boring af no one will play it if it drops even melee mains

[vivid socket]

100% hitreg is garbage atm

[gleaming gust]

100% agree

[steep marsh]

there should be facepaint section, i bought the skin showtime sparkles and it removes my arm tats

[icy vine]

Dagger quality of life improvents

-Option to BOTH single tap backstabs like before and also hold/prime stab
-Add a visual indicator of when the backstab is charged
-Remove the strange wind in ur ear AUDIO when u charge the dagger secondary cause it sounds terrible and you cant hear it mid fight at all.

there isn’t an accurate visual or audio cue that backstab is ready while holding,ADD a glint to the tip of the dagger blade and a ting sound to show its ready.

U can BOTH single click and hold throwing knife secondary attack but u can’t with dagger stab,plz fix it!!!

[twin heart]

A discord poll, now we're bringing in real arguments to the feedback channel

[red echo]

i hate cl40 so much , i despise it , but pike is much stronger atm icl

[quick coyote]

Epicglobe#1470 huge cheater 170 wins and not banned yet

[odd ibex]

@icy vine First of all devs reverted and buffed most weapons for a faster time to kill but didn’t revert dash,it was a problem with weaker weapons past season not now,atleast buff dash by 1.7 sec

Have grapple hook stick to any surface indefinitely for vertical map positioning

[broken swallow]

dear embark can you please remove stun gun and cl40 thank you

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[coarse jetty]

im ngl swords should not be powerful enough to be viable in ranked in any capacity

[lavish summit]

force players to stay in their own matchmaking region for ranked
oce players queues are terrible and people then go to play asia servers meaning the servers are even worse
please embark find a way to allow oce to have active ranked and wt modes

[icy vine]

I think you @ the wrong guy lol

[humble egret]

no, im ruby

[glacial sierra]

not splitting the playerbase into ...1,2,3,4,5...6? different game modes, plus private matches, would be a start. lol

[fleet meadow]

does anybody know how to shut up egg thing over the menu, that says "look at contracts", "you opened heavy", etc.
it is so fkn annoying to hear it on every single menu, how to turn it off???

[devout talon]

Adding à "reset location" when a vault is not on a cashbox AND stay still more than 1min (longer or shorter) to prevent people trolling (by blocking the box with them and just making the game into a death match / loosing time) OR when the vault is glitched under the map

[vivid socket]

Bring back changing your gun when dead in ranked

[dull fulcrum]

Someone left before ur ranked game starts ? DONT WORRY!!! Here at embark we put AI's playing with you instead of canceling matchmaking, so they can sit afk all game!

[ivory rose]

Bring back cancel reload. Changing to a gadget doesn't work when all gadgets are in cooldown, and melee attack doesn't look right.

[torpid sky]

Krigger

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller

[ionic tusk]

Just remove SYSHorizon from the game, im tierd of getting it 90% off all the games i get in to. im at the point where i leve whenever it comes up on the screen

[low tapir]

why i should get banned if we playing only 2? We cant win anyway, so its easily to start another match

[spark shard]

The entire game playing solo, both players disconnected, and I lose around 1000 SR.

[gleaming mason]

Same rightnow for me, mate left before the game starts and the 2 of us loosing a lot of sr

[wide falcon]

Does leaving in Soul only also count?
*CL-40 is ass xD , light is as useless as s1 xD

[sonic wigeon]

Heavy is nerfed into destruction. Medium CL-40 is OP, light does 2 much damage. This game balance is so shit

[dusky apex]

correct answer: server lag

[tepid zinc]

Light takes too much damage*

There fixed it for you.

[charred ivy]

It is actually funny to see people saying Heavy was nerfed hard, while it is still one of the best classes to play 😄 Yeah sure its defensive capabilities were hit, but i did not see too many people run anything besides Charge and slam in a good while now, considering it is just so good. As someone who plays all 3 classes, heavy is far the easiest for me to carry with still. CL40 is annoying, maybe even a bit too strong in its current state (especially when 3 players run it in the same team), but overall the games balance is not in a very bad spot right now.

Pike could take a small hit i guess, but data will tell that to Embark.

[untold cypress]

Heavy is definitely still fun until they nerf charge & slam. Rpg is NOT for shooting at players anymore. Another nerf is coming, directly as a result of all of the other nerfs.

[marsh elm]

Add console pool like ow2 and apex europe xbox ranked and world tour dead already

[spark shard]

Day 6/100: Change matchmaking for solo players.

I'm very pleased with all the changes you've brought this season, thank you!

However, the matchmaking has been broken since Season 2. In Season 3, I didn't play much ranked because it was TA, and I detest that game mode. I thought that during that season, meaning Season 3, you were working on the matchmaking to have something decent for Season 4, but I see that this issue continues from Season 2.

My matchups make no sense, neither in terms of rank nor in terms of the dedication to the game, which is evident when I compare my number of kills and revives with those of my teammates. And when I look at the other teams, they are with the people who should be matched with me, but instead, I'm playing against them.

I'm saying all this from the perspective of someone who plays solo, without a team. When can we expect improvements in matchmaking for solo players? Seriously, we've been like this since Season 2, it's very frustrating.

Note 1: I've even had people on my team who said in chat that they were playing ranked for "fun" in the sense of playing "quick play." This is a bad joke.

Note 2: I don't mind if it takes longer to find a game as long as it improves the current experience. I'd rather wait more than 2 minutes or however long it takes than wait 10 seconds and end up with a team with zero skill.

Note 3: Do not use the excuse of not changing the matchmaking in the middle of a season when you make buffs and nerfs to weapons, gadgets, etc., which also affect the game in the middle of the season. You have had enough time to do something about it.

[plush crater]

I dont know if this is true on other weapons but on the AKM having a sight equipped covers any sticker on the gun.

[wraith orchid]

you can always be better than anyone else. but from a point of view where 2 equally skilled players fight each other it needs to be balanced. light is harder to use but has more potential. but this potential get shut down by outrageous disbalance of way to high dmg weapons from m/h. AND they proceed to nerf lights mobility which makes no sense at all. I died so many times bc of this nerf even if i played wayy better it just doesnt make sense to play light anymore. btw cloak is completely useless and they should at least give the player 100% invisibility when standing still its hilarious how visible they are right now

[coarse jetty]

i agree, 3 heavy teams are still a bitch and a half to deal with, but not like... impossible. i think they are in a somewhat good spot, other classes should be balanced around them IMO

[slim rampart]

I think they should remove the sound that cloak makes

[dull fulcrum]

Bro it's been shit since season 1. Even atm i m getting matched with ppl with +10k RS than me. The Leavers still get no penalties whatsoever and their fix to this was add AI's instead of remaking the matchmaking.

If ur waiting for the devs of this game to do something, let me give u the tldr. They will time u out when u start giving to many real arguments and completly ignore what u said.

In terms of balance Since the game came out Heavy and Medium were meta and up to day they still are and only because of 1 simple fact Revives and HP pool. People will deny this and add arguments like mobility, weapons and gadgets, but delusionals can have their own opinion.

Just unninstall the game and play something else, no point in debating with devs like this. They will never answer to any of ur requests or even comment about them. Save time and brain cells and move on brother. 💪

[lavish summit]

I'm currently in queue for ranked in OCE servers and have been for the past 3 hours without getting into a single match and still to this day have only ever been able to get into a ranked match on Asia servers which aren't viable due to high ping, i know getting players for ranked is difficult although i believe either having region locked ranked (as many players have decided to only play on other regions servers as they cannot find matches otherwise) or doing community time slots for certain regions to all play ranked would help boost player counts during peak hours.

It is very frustrating wanting to play ranked in a game which i have enjoyed since day 1 and want to devote time to getting to diamond however am unable to ever get given an opportunity due to issues which are unrelated to the developers, however i just hope that some steps can be taken to reduce queue times and create a community of players where one currently is not. I'm also aware this is not limited to OCE and SA also has trouble when matchmaking for ranked.

So to anyone at embark who reads this i hope you are able to find a solution to this widespread issue even if its is largely out of your control.

[vestal igloo]

nerf CL40 ASAP please dead Game ngl

[late herald]

PIKE and LH1 cant be hitscan. So unhealthy for the overall experience and they’re too easy to use

[whole hemlock]

if they nerf CL40 we good
if they buff APS turret that means we are forced to use 1 slot for aps and CL spam is still gonna be relevant.

[tawdry oak]

t's unplayable. I can't play with a normal AR because there are only explosives on the screen. pls nerf CL40

[signal basin]

NERF DEAGLE
NERF PIKE
NERF CL 40

BAN AIM BOTTER
BAN WALLHACKER

BUFF LIGHT DPS OR SURVABILITY

DO SOMETHING FOR YOUR POOR SERVERS LAGGING

[quartz cedar]

Nerf cl-40

[finite galleon]

remove winch from the game

[short wolf]

I took time to write long feedbacks and new update ignored them AND WE HAVE 0 RESPONSE TO OUR FEEDBACKS
FFS CL 40 IS RUINNING THE GAME !!

[violet elbow]

this burst damage meta is fucking dogshit

• nerf pike
• nerf model
• nerf charge
• buff fcar
• buff mesh

[craggy basin]

Light is balanced it is just mainly used by bad players

[sterile yew]

pike maybe needs a little changing but its fine right now.

model is a gun with high risk so its dmg is fine

charge and slam might need some changes to its visuals

fcar gets great headshot dmg so if buff its body shots and i dont think your hitting your headshot it would be to broken

mesh 100% needs a bit of a buff, not a like how it was before but a second or 2 delay would be better to give people more of a chance to fight back and keep defense,

[hasty cliff]

okay just out of curiosity what buff do you guys want from the APS?? its effectiveness literally hasnt changed at all even after the cl-40 buff ;-;

[upper citrus]

Hmmm I wonder why good players don’t use light……

[quick coyote]

Why the f does my game crash every 5 minutes Bro

[hasty oriole]

Do not nerf the Pike if your not gonna nerf the model. Revert XP-54. Buff recoil on LH1.

[fierce sequoia]

YO WHAT IN THE HECK IS THE RESPAWN SYSTEM. MY TWO TEAMMATES ARE STILL ALIVE AT CASHOUT YET I RESPAWN FREAKING 200 METERS AWAY AND I LOST THE GAME. AND THIS HAS HAPPEN MANY FREAKING TIMES IM GONNA TWEAK.

[dusk mesa]

Its actually so troll how i load into a game bymyself in ranked cant leave or im penalised. And i loose 1k for coming last actuals troll man

[tawdry vortex]

Found another bug: Headgear floats when you emote in practice range https://imgur.com/a/itkvIRg

[bold vine]

This is not a bug report channel. You can post on #1201841543926005810 and #bug-discussion

[glass cradle]

Nerf cl40 asap. Just played against 2 teams MMM MMM, 6 cl40 - it's a circus now

[dreamy ore]

THE CL40 IS SO STUPID WEWEAPON FOR PEOPLE WITH NO BRAIN O SKILLS. MAKE MASSIVE DAMAGE, DEMOSLISH BUILDINGS AND GOT LARGE SPLASH DAMAGE, REQUIRE NO SKILL AT ALL AND IS IMPOSIBLE TO AVOID. SO DUMB WEAPON, THE BUFF WERE UNNECESSARY

[vital grove]

FIX THE CL-40 U FKING IDIOTS, IM A LIGHT MAIN AND ALL I NEED IS TWO SHOTS TO BE DEAD WTF HOW STUPID CAN U BE

[nocturne thicket]

maybe we don't need to nerf cl40 itself, what about lower hp of plyers using cl40 or lower their movement speed?

[modern echo]

Its not just the CL40 that needs a nerf.. The pike needs to really get a lower damage. And worse accuracy when hipfiring.
As a heavy, standing close range and almost emptying a Lewis on a medium, just to die from 3 hipfire shots from the Pike ....

I've played since closed beta, the Pike and CL40 now, is the worst I've experienced in all my game time.

[storm inlet]

50 headshots when u can't see ppl at 50+m

[vernal lake]

can't only see abuser cl-40 on low-ranked

[vestal igloo]

agree on all

[zealous mural]

revert the cl-40 changes day#10. fire the guy who went with this idea. Literal definition of dogshit balance team 💀

[floral vector]

Dropped from 13,000 points to 6,000 points，can‘t even win a round😭

[vivid fern]

on an off-meta note i feel theres just no reason to run dual blades compared to riot shield, would like more destinction between the two. maybe attacking while holding deflect does a dual swipe that pushes people back a little and flows nicely into your main combo or sum

[signal basin]

Yeah so much balanced that why there is no fking Light in ranked. No one wants light in their squad but yes. Light is balance and the game is game full of noob light player. You're right. Thanks for your comment.

[final dew]

were g2 and got top 50 players twice in a row how is this balanced

[teal bear]

Yeah definitely respawns this season are weird. Spawing 200m away from a cashout your team owns when you team wipe but they fail to steal is another head scratcher

[glad yarrow]

Bro playing ranked on console is miserable... I'm really close to uninstalling. And that triple healing beam shit? Games really frustrating and anti-fun

[digital coral]

back to back games, the first ones of the day for me and I get some of the worst team players and generally incompetent people ever.. and we are against teams mostly comprising of lvl 60+ only.

if they cant handle simple aspects of the game why are they being stacked into one team

[pliant spruce]

just nerf CL40. just that. Heavy is perfect and light.... mmmm fine

[sterile yew]

i do agree but not nerf to how it was before, gotta fine that sweet spot

[mighty sphinx]

I have been experiencing non-stop crashes and server issues. Please fix!

[still sluice]

Why does putting my PS5 into rest with this game open then cause me to have to input my DOB every time I turn it back on?

[pliant lion]

Nerf the CL40

[upper citrus]

Bitches be like “cl40 op” and while w keying it repeatedly and dying. Maybe play height?

Anyways nerf pike and model

[potent oasis]

PLEASE NERF CL40 AND PIKE
GAME IS UNPLAYABLE, YOU KILLED THE GAME EMBARK

[livid trail]

Menu FPS cap pls, no reason to be pulling 200w at the 👉🏼 main menu 👈🏼

Why can no one read? "MAIN MENU"

[deep wadi]

u can use rivatuner to do that in 2 seconds if u worry about it that much
also nvidia's control panel has a similiar thing

[celest berry]

Releasing a Skin for the CL to cashgrab one more week before they nerf it great idea meanwhile its ruining the game due to aps´s lack of range

Or is there another good reason to let CL be one of best weapons while beeing completly skilless?

[vital zodiac]

this stupid rank rule let top two earn tiny points，the others lose too many points in higher rank.This is ridiculous.

1 +750
2 +450
3 -30
4 -500
5-6 -950
7-8 -1400
💀💀💀

AND I WANT MY 1400RS BACK WHEN I MEET FUTURE BANNED CHEATERS

[forest wasp]

true, just because someone has maybe a few hundred rs more than someone else doesnt mean they should have to work 10 times harder just to not derank

[craggy basin]

Sorry I am mainly a quick cash player

[swift laurel]

elo refunds when cheaters get banned please, ive probably lost well over 100k to cheaters since closed beta, its like 5x the grind playing on asia vs eu or na

[quick coyote]

Day 1 of asking Embark to give light a single dash with a cool-down of 5 seconds.

[dusky apex]

PREACH

[fringe schooner]

"NERF EVERYTHING THAT KILLS ME" Clowns

[signal basin]

We all know we see a lot of haevy with deagle.
A lot of medium with PIKE.

DID WE SEE A LOT OF LIGHT WITH M26 ? No because this new weapon is useless when you get instant kill by litteraly everything

[flint jungle]

🤣 💯
If you start reading the comments here, most of them are that xD

[storm siren]

cl-40 doesnt deserve to be this good

[wary hedge]

since you guys wanted me to post this idea from reddit here it is:

Barbed Wire

Could be a nice ability for medium to run a barbwire.
-slow movement speed
-damage every tick you move through it
-more health than land mines

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1fwqxub/barbwire_what_do_you_guys_think/

[sour torrent]

cl-40 is just annoying
lights cant enjoy the game
you dont have to aim
spam it with a team and watch the enemy complain

[dull moth]

Buff CL40 and nerf light，or just remove every weapon apart from CL40👍

[blissful smelt]

I now realized the CL40 is the fuckin' grenaude launcher 😅 I was already ranting about yesterday.
I forgot to mention an issue inside the Finals game:

• the Stealth Approach ia s wrong. I mean I can't hear a H running on my side (unless it's a wood roof) and there aren't any visual hint about enemies coming.
  There would be something like the MGS4 circle ⭕️ line of the danger.
• Inherently the sound design is overall good, BUT the sound design related to footsteps of running players is BAD
• finally, the L optical camo is probably a tool too OP and too unnoticeable, at least playing at lowspec

[red echo]

So you think cl40 is completely balanced? This guy

[lethal temple]

---

COLOR BLINDNESS

Could you please change one of the orange colors to green!??
It's confusing trying to tell which team is which during the world tour or ranked (4 teams)!

.

[dense tinsel]

It's time to add a voting system to expel a team member. The number of people joining and trolling is increasing. Match after match, there are AFK players who let themselves get killed, and since they stay dead and we don’t revive them, they don't leave. We end up playing whole matches with only two people, unable to let anyone else join because of these actions, or they just move for a few seconds to avoid getting kicked. Matches we could have won but couldn’t because it was just the two of us the whole game.

Also, the penalties for leaving are too light, and people constantly quit mid-game.

NERF the grenade launcher. It's unbearable to play matches with constant explosions, everything falling apart, FPS drops, and you can’t make sense of anything, not even where you are, because it’s just rubble and explosions everywhere. It makes no sense. The L players, moreover, go down with just one grenade.

The dagger: How is it possible for someone with a dagger to deal damage from 2 meters away? I was literally in a space on the new map in the cash-out area, and someone with a dagger against the wall managed to hit me even though I was far away aiming at them with my weapon. It doesn't make sense. It’s fine for a dagger to deal a lot of damage, but only if the player gets close enough to be within arm's reach, nothing more. Otherwise, it's excessive.

[upper citrus]

Rework dash to have a higher skill ceiling while also being faster and harder to hit. Light is useless in high elo because all of its survivability is dependent on the enemy missing shots or making mistakes

[fathom aurora]

ppl leaving games all the time, why there´s no penalty for that? so stupid

[tired bough]

daily reminder to reverse CL-40 changes, this game became circus after the last update, shi is unplayable. All we hear and see is BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

[tropic root]

Man, it doesn't matter if you press w, a, s, or d. You'll still get hit by it's 30cm AOE.

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller😐

[uneven dagger]

Alright so what if

Volumetric smoke and gas

[timber falcon]

R357 buff please!!! 3 tap a medium and better hip fire it's all it needs!!

[ember abyss]

This game has the worst ranked matchmaking that ever existed.

[glad yarrow]

Rework Kyoto. The buildings are terrible

[violet elbow]

Light is in the worst state its ever been in for ranked, high elo Light is less playable than in S1 right now

[gloomy falcon]

Please buff CL-40 its unplayable

[red echo]

didnt they buff like every weapon except the xp?

[dull oyster]

make chargeable heavy attacks uniform in their workings, or better yet make a setting for each of them.
so that we can either cancel them like knife, or it should have uninterruptible animation like with throwing knives that you can/cant hold depending on weapon

[kind condor]

get rid of your fucking cheater EMBARKKK PLSSSSS!!!!!!!! , SO MANY FUCKING ANTI FUCKING CHEAT AND WHY DID U USE EZ ANTI FUCKING CHEAT

[upper citrus]

The class has always had good weapons. That isn’t why it’s bad. Lights survivability is entirely dependent on the enemy blowing shit at the game

[deep wadi]

If u cant win them join them
(And get ur pc ratted)

[sudden spire]

Sometimes enemy players don't make any footsteps

[fleet socket]

Daily yap #idk

[elfin dock]

FUCKING NERF CL-40 IF U DONT WANNA LOSE PLAYERS

[autumn sedge]

In saying CL40 is op after using it for ~40 matches lol

[honest verge]

I enjoy matches when there's class diversity. The lack of diversity is most noticeable when it's 8+ mediums out of 12, and that occurs frequently in my experience playing WT and Ranked (~gold).

I blame the community somewhat because they're meta pilled into playing what they're told is best to be 'competitive'.

[keen abyss]

Nobody wants to play a lobby thats has 2 teams all with gl i would quit to

[solemn topaz]

I believe my challenge for 5 elims 40 meters plus with gadgets is bugged. I can say I definetly got at least 3 elims from 50 plus meters with gadgets and it didnt give me any credit

[celest berry]

Dear Embark please if something breaks the game (Cl40) and you guys do not want to patch it asap than at least disable it untils its fixxed!

[fringe schooner]

I'd like to see the heavy hammer swing be holdable like the dagger and throwing knifes. Kinda wild they didn't do that with the other changes

[mortal notch]

id rather be hung upside down forced to eat bricks and watch paint dry whilst covered in honey than play pike/model/dogwalking meta @red echo nope 93r was the only weapon that got buffed. xp should of gotten a dmg dropoff nerf and no dmg nerf. lh1 rpm should of gotten buffed. light currently is near unplayable and worse than post nerf rpg s1

[red echo]

then what do you want them to do?

[dry wraith]

As a solo player, I think it would be fair if solo players played against each other instead of facing 3-man stacks with a 10k difference in Elo

[tribal spoke]

If the devs are worried about the dual blades becoming too strong after buffing them, why not nerf the aim assist? Then you can buff the dual blades while nerfing the dual blades by requiring more precise aim

[astral yew]

At any case it would be much more playable as a solo to not face 3 premade squads. Also you won't win the final around against them either if they have good teamwork.

[fathom birch]

10th day of asking embark to fix the game its stutter for me om this update every 2 seconds with my rx7900xtx and reyzen 7 7800x3d never had issue before only the last 2 updates ruined the game for me with micro stuttering every few seconds

[hallow kindle]

I'm about done with this game until you nerf Pike and CL-40. The game is at the point where it's as unfun as Recon and nuke meta.

[desert merlin]

There is a bug with the demat that makes a floor/wall invisible and unbreakable once the demat timer runs out. I just lost a game because of it lol

[digital cedar]

yea ive had this issue as well, very annoying when im tryna defend a cashout.

[fading flame]

I had 4 people on my team in one game

[hearty coyote]

Anybody else have the contract to “Eliminate 5 opponents from 40 meters using gadgets”? Any tips cause I can’t get this done at all. 😫

[shell raven]

increase size of scope glint

[verbal breach]

Here is a list of changes that might make the dual blades viable:

-Damage Combo to 110, 120, 80
| Allows for kill combos with a quick melee

-Deflected Bullets can crit (uses crit mod from the deflected weapon)
| raises skill ceiling

-widen the deflect cone slightly

-blocks 50% of explosion damage
| we need something against grenade launchers, ok

Please Embark 🙏

[wind copper]

I gonna kill my self because of this.

[sly charm]

took me about 2 days but im 1/50 now

[craggy basin]

It should be ten headshots from 50 meters or more max I am only at 5 and this is the only contract I am trying to do

[jovial sonnet]

please make the dagger alt attack like the throwing knives alt attack where if you let go too early itll just immediately throw it but you can still hold it. It sucks to miss a backstab because you let go 2 miliseconds too early 🙏 🙏

[unreal fossil]

"Maybe play height ?" - as if non-brain dead CL40 users didn't do that in the first place, while Medium class can use not one, not two, but three mobility utilities on a single loadout.

One of my Medium loadouts is exactly that, and with demat/zips/pads, even Lights can't compete with the level of mobility I have access to.

Trent, you've said before that you were a top 150 player, I think this ironically gives you a biased view on this topic. Maybe CL40 users aren't much of a problem to you, because you have enough skill to out-maneuver/out-DPS them, but you have to realize that not everybody does -even players who don't necessarily suck at the game in general. It feels like you fail to see the obvious imbalance of skills/efforts needed to play the CL40 effectively vs. countering it effectively. Especially in more realistic team fight settings where you have to deal with constant explosions on top of incoming fire from other players.

@wind copper @craggy basin @sly charm play Medium/Pike w/scope using zips/pads on maps like Skyway Stadium or Monaco, and profit.

@hollow valve Yes, I remember. But then I also agree with some of his other balance related takes. Trent likes to be the devil's advocate it seems.

[elfin dock]

NERF CL 40000

[spice dagger]

the model 1887 is fine its proper slow firing rate. Nerf the Cl40! 😄

[gritty garnet]

im losing my mind over cl40 PLEASE EMBARK DO SOMETHING

[hollow valve]

That guy was the same person who said throwing knives is fine when it was op. Then you can truly understand his character.

[rough storm]

soooooooooooooo... model and CL... when?

@torpid sky HAHAHA atp i wouldn't even be suprised anymore

[torpid sky]

s8 inshallah

[red echo]

worse balance
worse performance
worse buildings
worse spawns

SEASON 4 EVERYONE

the only up thing this season has over season 3 is the ranked mode , and yes i love it but everything else except cosmetics have been awful

[mortal notch]

If rather strip naked slather myself in butter and hot sauce and tie my leg’s together jump Into a pool and make dolphin noises whilst I slowly drown to death Turing the water red
Than play the pike model/dogwalking meta

[upper citrus]

Can I watch

[brittle star]

I would love to see more maps themed on real world places like: kyoto, monaco, las vegas and etc...

[storm cedar]

TDM mode would be sweet.

[covert yacht]

Embrak really did not learn from their mistake with the LH1 in season 3 when it was overpowerd. They just dropped a copy paste wepon to medium and also is there anyone who even tests the changes they do

[ivory rose]

What about a "Pause" option when one of your teammates is trying to reconnect? for a very limited amount of time and just once per game. And maybe just in the final round.

[frail gull]

CL 40 is Killing ranked , good UPDATE

[cedar cave]

i would love if you could bind gestures better. when im reviving someone id love to look at my watch itm by pressing just one button, would make it fun to revive manually

[heady locust]

HOW DO I DO THIS BRUH

[honest verge]

MMM is way too common of a team

[dry wraith]

that's on me then

[elfin dock]

Dont nerf cl 40 its perfect

[livid belfry]

Daily reminder to nerf CL40

[ionic tusk]

I'm finished with it... it's easy with pike

[burnt roost]

Same.

[rain epoch]

Nerf Pike, Model, CL-40.

Revert world tour changes in ranked.

30% plug
10% lost on wipe
awful new spawn system

Leads to a meta where the only thing that matter is getting plugs and the last cashout is always doubled by the 1st or 2nd place team to get an easy first place secured win while every other team has to fight a 3v9 while 1st place just griefs in who they want.

Need to lower cash on deposit to 10 to 15%, bring back 30% wipes, and fix the god awful "enhanced" spawns.

[undone dagger]

pike makes me wanna cry as light
cl40 makes me want to go through my monitor and kill this person with my own hands in game

Anyways boots up the finals

[tawdry oak]

I will stay in Apex until they nerf CL40. this is absurd

[upper citrus]

The 30% deposit bonus and 10% wipe penalty is imo the best change that’s ever happened to this game.

What are your problems with them?

[topaz barn]

You should have said you were bad at the game sooner 😭

[alpine pebble]

the cl-40 don´t make sense

[rough herald]

lag

[brisk garden]

is the player count really so low that balise and his 3 stack get to play in gold lobbies all day? it's just not fair to get braindead sniper teammates against that

[devout pike]

hey not sure if this is the place for it but this is not the first time i have experianced it its not common but sometimes when you spawn in you cant sprint and you have to either crouch slide or shoot/use a gadget sometimes more then one of those to resolve the problem its not common like i said only really happened like once a day but still it would be nice if looked into

[sage sonnet]

drop another sick event like steal the spotlight

[spiral hemlock]

cl40 is worse than it was in season 2 what are you plebs talking about

[worn horizon]

when its worse why everyone using it? its alot better

[celest berry]

idc if its worse tell me why it should compete against players that have incredible good aim?
Cl can win fights against these players just by dealing splashdamage close to mid range
And Cl dmg is AOE

Aps radius is to small to effectivly counter CL´s

[glacial salmon]

The developers ride the mediums like a stick on toy everytime they buff them with a weak ass excuse like "it shold kill a heavy in 3 shots" Who the fuck uses CL40 to fight heavies

[dense ocean]

day 25 asking embark
let console players able/disable HUD

[spiral jetty]

cope.cry.mald.

[sharp gust]

for me this game were really ''lights out''

[topaz smelt]

Please make it to where when your teammate leaves on ranked you're not suffering with two people forced to take the L. Can't tell you how many times I've had my first game on my 3rd leaves and im suffering 2v3 every fight for the entire game and can't leave just to run it with 3. Wack.

[pale perch]

If you dont nerf the pike i have no faith in the game

[silent fog]

why does it still feel like most of the time you're playing Kyoto? The map is fucking awful. Take it out of WT/Ranked at least so we're not forced to play that failure of a map.
Also nerf the cl. It's probably the least fun thing rn.

[brittle obsidian]

nerf pike rate of fire and hipfire accuracy. the gun should be terrible up close as compensation for allowing medium to contest people from across the map, yet it isn't

[topaz barn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[still bronze]

Having the boombox equipped as your intro has it play multiple times in the main menu, please fix ;_;

[drifting storm]

I agree, previous cashout system was 10x better, you also should lose 25% of your money on wipe as punishment for bad plays. Also nerf cl40

[livid belfry]

this. amen

[torpid sky]

embark pls ignore those low ranks speaking bs about the current wipe penalty🙏

[tawny glade]

To combat out of control 3-medium defib trains, you just need to set a minimum statue time of 10~sec or so (balance it) after death where a player can not be defibed but can still be revived by hand.

After 10~sec (balance it) you can defib like normal

[sage sonnet]

I like the deposit bonuses and the lowered teamwipe. its about cashing out not team deathmatch

[brisk garden]

give the top 500 longer queue times so they have to play against eachother

[neat yoke]

also helps with light trying to get into the meta thanks to gateway and their superior personal mobility for taps and plugs, there's still work to be done however, which includes some weapon nerfs to we know who (I'd also like it if light specs didnt rely on enemy skill to be effective or useless and actually had higher impact for gameplay)

[tired bough]

revert cl-40 changes,
nerf model,
nerf pike,
nerf sword and fix sword animation cancell bug abuse
remove light from the game (annoying af and ruins all the games for everyone in terms of fun and WR) lmao

[elfin dock]

nerf cl 40 range not the damage it does
revert mesh shield nerf
make 20% penalty
buff akm or reduce fcar recoil

[drowsy vector]

There’s no way of playing ranked without crossplay, and I’m sure there are more than enough players on PS5 to get full lobbies. So I think something’s broken with the matchmaking? I really don’t want to play all these cheating ass PC players, it’s so annoying..

[upper citrus]

okay this is just low elo talk

[cold lotus]

Put a game mode exclusively for cheaters to see who has the better cheats and give them a ranked game mode, tired of seeing them in our lobbies

[jovial sonnet]

give us xbox / playstation crossplay

[jagged vector]

Deagles and double cl40 with heals…. Both the cl40 and deagles need a nurf.

[alpine pebble]

nerf the cl-40 pls

[timid vector]

nerf cl-40, its op

[frozen merlin]

Day 2 of asking for a barret 50 cal for the heavy

[restive cedar]

nerf cl-40

[covert yacht]

just hard nerf everything about medium please like that class has been op for the entire game and now the game is not the finals its all mediums cause that is all there is and both light and heavy are so much worse and how TF can they make a patch and not nerf anything and why was there no testing about the buffs for all wepons it seems like they dont even play the game they are making

[frank ruin]

I am console and don’t want to play against PC. But I can’t find ranked matched with cross play off. Having to compete against PC’s is very unfair.

[shut junco]

I agree. Pyke too strong right now. The CL40 also needs brought down. Things insane

[mortal notch]

yes u can bby

[untold hazel]

nerf turret seeing range

[left badge]

There are not enough iseult clothes i have like 4 or 5 enfimo things but 2 from iseult and that feels weird cobsidering its suposed to be the main clothing brand in the world

[grizzled crescent]

NERF CL 40

[upbeat urchin]

One big "issue" (which is not really one in fact) is that as this game is "action and destruction" oriented, most people forget the basics of a fps : don't rush in when you don't know where ennemies are, have some cover when fighting, don't ego-challenge people.
But I agree that all of this is useless when facing a CL40, that sheet OP

[tall jackal]

Anyone else having horrid lag issues? I try to run forwards without doing anything else and it looks like a damn slide show, my ping is in the 800s

[hardy bridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1289068862402465855/Card.gif

[celest anchor]

CL-40 would be fine if it did the same kind of self damage as a rocket launcher did, but it doesnt. It instead just makes you wish you were never born. A nerf for it is welcome considering most other people use bullets, and they hardly have to aim

[vocal nest]

I wish that the commentators lines were synced across at least your teammates. I might get one line but my friend gets a different phrase.

[round sage]

CL40 -> 0.6x self damage and -117hp
RPG (thermal bore) -> 1.8x self damage and -100hp
I just can't let it sink in my head

[uneven dagger]

next person to write "feedback" in full caps is doo doo dogwater at the game

[rapid stream]

Dagger feels amazing now but making the charge time quicker / getting rid of the movement penalty would be really appreciated ( dash nerf being reverted would be nice too )

[devout pike]

im genuinely getting reported trying to get the 50 hs from 50m in casual cashout... this is not a fun challenge something more creative then shoot gun from long distance (this is hard not only due to having to actually aim and hit shots but locations its really difficult to get to a 50m range that you can shoot from im even playing on 45 fov to just make it easier and its just not fun i want to get on and play the game but i also as a completionist want to complete the circuit stage 2 for enigmo why was it made this way

[storm cedar]

TDM would be sweet.

[long burrow]

nerf cl 40

[rain epoch]

It's literally explained in the next paragraph.

You can literally win off of 30% plugs, non-stop plugging.

30% plug makes an extremely grief heavy Final cashout.

1st or 2nd place will double the last cashout to get first place and be Secure.

You can't counter it because wipe is only a 10% penalty.

This forces you into a 3v9 for the last doubled cashout.

There's also situations that arise where the 3rd and 4th place team are in an unwinnable situation on last cashout.

Let's say 1st and second place both have 35k and 3rd and 4th have less then 10k.

You're literally hosed if first and 2nd place split the cashouts. Zero way to win even if you win a cashout. You can't wipe them and win because it's only 10% for wipe lol.

Not to mention people play like idiots because there's no penalty not to.

It's better to suicide wipe then rez your team in 90% of situations, and the 10% wipe facilitates this.

[brittle obsidian]

You can literally win off of 30% plugs, non-stop plugging.

That means that one team is consistently getting control of the vaults, and is likely more skilled than the others.

You can't counter it because wipe is only a 10% penalty.

The 10% penalty is designed to punish teams that do consistently poorly and wipe repeatedly. The top teams should not be in danger from wiping once.

There's also situations that arise where the 3rd and 4th place team are in an unwinnable situation on last cashout.

If they're doing that poorly during the last round of vaults, then they've been playing poorly all game and don't deserve to win on anything less than a doubled cashout.

[upper citrus]

One is a committal primary weapon that puts you at a disadvantage in plenty of scenarios for using and the other is a commitment free gadget you can swap off from and go back to using a hitscan automatic immediately

[static elbow]

love when my teamate leave and i gor - 1000

[versed cloud]

Nerf CL

[unreal bramble]

nerf cl40 and ranked should be locked until noobs reach career lvl 50

[civic tusk]

Dagger is horrible now. Hold it's not a QoL, it's infuriating nerf

[quaint light]

how

[coral turtle]

+1

[sour torrent]

If the cl40 doesnt get nerfed next update that proves they dont read this shit considering how many complain about it

[uneven dagger]

I like how 70% of people still play light despite the "busted" shit rn

buff cl40 is so fun gun for fun players

[celest anchor]

Baffling

[neat yoke]

baffling how people stick to their main because they have fun with it (until they meet pike)

[oak night]

the pike

[placid bronze]

The only way to stop triple something abuse is to force L H M roles

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic gun for pathetic players

[brittle obsidian]

theres only one viable triple comp: MMM, plus forced LHM wouldn't make L good, it would just guarantee 1 free kill per team.

[thorn nebula]

Hey, embark, can we please remove the contract "get 50 headshots from 50m or more"? It's not fun for any parties involved

[desert bobcat]

I wonder if we will ever have the abillity in the future to choose between maps to play in and not all of them
for example i would LOVE to exclude kyoto
here is a great example from Rocket League, for each modes (most of them) you can choose to exclude some and make your favorite

[silent fog]

I never wanted map bans in a game so bad as this game when Kyoto came out. What a failure of a map.
@manic lagoon Sys is nowhere near as bad as Kyoto is. It really is not. Kyoto is the worst map by far.

[manic lagoon]

Interesting way to spell syshorizon @silent fog its way worse

[nocturne remnant]

People are using the grenade launcher as if it were a machine gun; perhaps you should add some self-damage (or recoil) from explosions, it doesn't make any sense right now

[versed cloud]

Actually start banning cheaters ranked is filled with people using wall hacks and getting kills with zero intel

[daring musk]

game crashes at least 3 times a day

[whole hemlock]

NERF CL

[sonic wigeon]

RANKED IS INFESTED WITH CHEATERS ONCE AGAIN HAHAHA fix ur fcking antichet

[uneven dagger]

I love how cl40 immediately turns light infested bank it matches into a more diverse class selection, keep up the good work embark

[red ingot]

dagger!

[unreal fossil]

'Commitment free gadget' well, it uses one gadget slot to be able to deal 100 damage tops every what, 40-50 seconds ? Frags are a better option at this point. Since Mesh has been gutted, everyone and their mothers run C&S anyway, so it's not like you need another utility to destroy walls, floors and ceilings.

You're really commiting to the devil's advocate role everytime the CL40 is brought up. Just like with TKs previously.

[outer schooner]

Could we get solo bank it back for custom matches?

[remote citrus]

• CL-40 needs a nerf. its a stronger grenade/rpg that can be reloaded faster/launched farther. Also the buildings are just being completely torn apart which is cool but causes performance issues because so many people are using this in lobbies
• 30% cashout bonus is too high, too much reward for grabbing a box and putting it in. I agree it deters not putting the box in but on the last cashout is worth the value of placing/defending the first cashout. Additionally it forces double box cashouts on the last one which shifts the balance of the whole match because one player throws a box in. A flat rate would make more sense.
• need a higher wipe penalty. 10% is worth less than getting a box in later on so risking it all for a little extra is too worthwhile now.
• We need more reliable spawns for end game. Often times I'm spawning with 30+ seconds left in a spot that would be impossible to get to the cashbox and steal it.

[fringe schooner]

Another reminder to split the MM pool between PC and console, wildly unfair in CQC

[storm tide]

how about event: FALL DAMAGE ON

[upper citrus]

you are arguing that frags are a better option while rpg is still a must pick over frags

[pliant lion]

You better be nerfing the CL40 and the Pike this patch

[rough herald]

buff rpg cd

[mystic kernel]

傻逼平衡赶快给我把榴弹给我削了

[night vortex]

You all need to just embrace the stuff you complain about. We started running triple medium 2 CL40 and 1 Pike. We’ve been walking up the ranked ladder with minimum effort. Use the broken stuff. It won’t change unless they see numbers to back it up. They don’t care about what you have to say, only statistics. So go ruin some games for everyone else.

[storm cedar]

Team death match and squad death match please, this game is literally screaming for a death match mode

[civic orchid]

Embark for the next season, can we get the rewards of season 3? Is it possible or is it too difficult...

[neon siren]

-World Tour/ranked seems to progressively get more laggy if you keep playing without restarting the game. this didnt happen lsat season. (no idea whether its not dumping shaders or whatever the smart computer terms are)
-CL40 could go back to the 9cm diameter for max damage.

[topaz barn]

CL really does put lights in their place dont it

[frank ruin]

Make cross play auto off so I can actually find ranked matches. Or make cross play between consoles.

[random scarab]

they said update 4.2 if you listened IDIOT!!!! AHHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!

[sage sonnet]

can we explain why revolver exists as it is rn? as a revolver main it kinda feels worthless to take unless you are constantly landing headshots. give us a reason to pick it. maybe less bloom or better accuracy whilst moving. maybe let us fan the hammer in 2 round bursts from hipfire

[sudden tangle]

can we explain why light exists as it is rn? as a light main it kinda feels worthless to take unless you are constantly playing vs lower ranked players. give us a reason to pick it. maybe 175hp or better weapons so the 200hp difference gets somewhat bridged. maybe let us have a gadget like tracer's recall.

[elfin dock]

dont nerf cl 40 also yea buff light health buff turrets

[lunar coyote]

nerf turrets

[violet matrix]

Cl40 players are so pathetic

[glass cradle]

Red dot sight is barely visible on some maps and dark places

[modest root]

rework XP-54

[unreal fossil]

You get 2 instead of 1, shorter cooldown, higher AoE damage, can be thrown from a good distance, dropped, and even hit enemies outside your LoS/behind cover if you bounce them off obstacles. Not to mention they're sometimes very hard to notice during fights. If you're looking for AoE damage, with the RPG down to 100 tops, why wouldn't use frags instead tbh ? The only real advantage the RPG has is that it can hit near instantaneously. Which I agree can be strong at times.

[cerulean mason]

Absolutely love getting blasted by pike squads from across the map

[glad ginkgo]

CL40 is great for bugs, lags, rubberbanding and internet connection. I’m pretty sure players have experience shooting at an opponent and their shots not connecting knowing your reticle is center mass. CL40 kinda helps with all the issues with splash damage. That’s not skill issue

[quick coyote]

that gun and the 556 needs to be nerfed

[devout pike]

lights have insane utility and the gadget your talking about is litterally the gate way like what are you on about as for the health difference you ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE FIGHTS 1 ON 1 you are supposed to go around flank take out 1 guy or 2 you just have to position yourself with your team and communicate and light is terrifying then

[modest lotus]

nerf mediums. every fucking game is medium spam. its all i see and all i fight. 80% of the people im playing against and with are mediums. its just boring. defib spam, CL40 spam, Model spam. im not dying to anything but this constant spew of medium bs and its not fun. no point in every other weapon being balanced if mediums are so overwhelmingly OP

[teal epoch]

nerf cl40 and the pike
even the s1 with the nuke was better

[undone aspen]

Since this game is a “game show game” they should give you more xp or sponsor points when you do something awesome or cool. This past week I was in a game and orange was about to win so both my teammates left, I kept playing and stole the cash out a 1v3v3 in gameshows something like this will really be insane.

Also a game highlight or key play after each game would be nice considering this is literally a gameshow

[short meadow]

Please fix the frame drops as soon as possible. This shit is outrageous. 90% sure it's a cache issue, largely due to it running just fine for 3 games or so, then suddenly it'll start chopping like crazy until I restart.

Please look into this ASAP, it's 100% ruining the game when you have to leave and restart every half hour.

[blazing pebble]

The amount of splash damage weapons are getting out of hand

[hazy shore]

remove the in air inaccuracy for the bow

[vestal igloo]

NERF CL-40 AND PYKE

[torpid sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pyke-eyebrow-raise-gif-27454108

[wraith orchid]

BALANCE THOUGHTS:

SPECIALIZATIONS:

-specializations are the most important part of balancing bc they have a major impact on the pace and fun of the game. they should be balanced in their own category because of that.

nerfing specs is the worst thing you can do balance wise, because it always messes with the pace of the game, which was in my opinion better in season 1/2. almost every spec nerf/change led to quicker, and more on raw weapon combat focused fights, and always took away a tiny part of the games caracteristic. domeshield nerf; dash nerf; heal nerf; cloak nerf; all of these had a major impact on the value of specs in generall. but we need to understand, that, compared to gadgets and weapons, the specs NEED to have the most value/impact on the games balance and pace bc IT IS the MOST ICONIC AND UNIQUE part of the game, besides the destruction, which is not a part of balancing. so i suggest to buff specs, and balance them on a high value level.

imagine specs being way better than ever. it would make the different classes more unique and would bring out the CLASS CHARACTERISTICS more.

am i the only one that thinks the different classes roles lost in importancy and everything is just a killmachine rn.

PLS TAKE THIS AS SERIOUS CRITIC EMBARK

[fierce rivet]

Just had a powershift match on Kyoto where all building collision was broken so we couldn't stand on the platform.

[distant sluice]

when and why was mantling changed? It feels significantly slower than it used to. Why ruin the movement in this game?

[jagged vector]

Fix the ranking system, why as a gold 4 am I being put with people you are half way through plat? Doesn’t make any sense and all those teams are stacking mmm with healing or mhm healing and deagles and cl40 the next update needs to have the improvement or a lot of people will leave certain game modes because they are impossible to win

[steady flame]

How about a death match game mode. I’m tired of getting teammates who don’t get objective and only care about kills I feel like if we had just a game mode where it’s all about kills it would help.

[brittle obsidian]

bank it is right there

[hearty wadi]

Also disappointed with the lore drop off. It was a pretty exciting aspect of the game i thought you guys would do more with but it fell off so hard.

[ocean sphinx]

I understand weekly contracts are meant to take some time to complete but having a contract be ‘headshot 50 opponents from a distance of 50 meters or more’ is just not very feasible to complete in the average game right now, even with weapons like the sniper, bow or pike. Maybe reduce the distance or amount of headshots because even dealing damage at those ranges can be quite difficult. And mind you im on controller so factor that in too

[cerulean birch]

give us the v9s with a switch 🔥

[low drift]

HOW THE FUCK IS IT FAIR LOADING IN WITH 1 TEAMMATE AND LOSING 1300 RS WHEN YOU LITERALLY CANT WIN?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? @pearl kiln

[worn horizon]

nerf cl4000

[alpine pebble]

now with the cl-40 impossible play power shift

[cloud vale]

grenade launcher 2 tapping lights? thats crazy

[autumn sedge]

Technically it always could do that, but now it can two-shot lights without even aiming

[dim root]

and model

[lost forge]

Cl40 neeeds to disappear we need major balance changes to weapons especially to high dps weapons against light player like feel like a sponge to everything

[gleaming tide]

Add a capture the flag game mode.

[wicked topaz]

BEGGING for a CL-40 rework , as a light im being 2 tapped even while invis , they dont even have to look at me. my teammates BOTH run aps but they get destroyed in under 2 seconds , its actually ridiculous that we are 14 days into the season and still no balance changes.

[tribal hinge]

New challenges suck
still.

[versed cloud]

Destruction on fortune stadium is SO LAGGY

[obsidian sail]

Gyro aim makes your emotes crazy short and it’s lame. Lemme style on that loser I killed once after he killed me 15 times.

[mortal notch]

the MMH pike/model dogwalking meta is so mind numbingly boring and personally makes ranked unplayable id rather play my little pony adventures 2 than this shit. light is also at its worst point competively since pre rpg nerf s1

[covert yacht]

as a heavy main in this awful meta what can i even do when the entire lobby is ONLY MEDIUM with model, pike and grenade launcher that kills me in 1 second and i have nothing to block with. Dome shield nerfed, mesh shield nerfed, barricade nerfed i cant win long range they have pike, i cant win close range they have model, cant group they will have grenade launcher if all of this does not get a big nerf i feel like it could be time to play something else

[tame crag]

Winch Claw should simply not exist. In its current state it does not just “cross distance” it completely deletes the distance between you and the enemy.

If light had an ability that teleported themselves directly in front of someone within 12m of them, people would say it’s broken because it allows them to instantly use their high damage short range guns.

[ember tusk]

Light Sword is the most broken thing in this game right now without a doubt. It's insane how 1 L sword player just can run through entire teams. It's impossible to hit. The only counter is stun or cl40. It's so stupid.

[mystic tartan]

I think winch would be fine if it had an indicator before you use it

[young hamlet]

That's not even remotely true. For starters, don't stand a line. Second, all 3 of your teammates would need to do 50 damage to kill the light, pretty easy, and third, the CL40 is significantly more broken that the sword

[trim mason]

Please for the love of God, fix the performance issues on Kyoto. It's unplayable half the time. 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[lilac basalt]

Has anyone else received the “eliminate 5 opponents from 40 metres or more using gadgets” contract? If so, is it just me or is it, almost, quite literally impossible?

[hazy shore]

remove in air inaccuracy for the bow. @brittle obsidian no

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic gun

[frank ruin]

Can’t find ranked games on console cross play off. Please fix. Don’t want to play against PC sweats/cheats/120+fps

[brittle obsidian]

extend this to all weapons. give me one good reason why it should exist in the first place

[rough herald]

atleast tell them whats wrong with it?

[outer radish]

Cannot connect to SYSHorizen keeps crashing and then get an unreal engine crash report

https://gyazo.com/ecd745f3688f83eabe93adc551d028a5

[olive vector]

NERF THE CL40 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!! Every game is just explosions!!!

[shell fractal]

There needs to be a counter to the CL-40

The fact it can 2 shot a light/medium at any range is crazy. There is no balance and there is nothing you can do to mitigate it.

Yes you can run an APS, but it pops in 3 shots ( despite the model showing 4), and the reload time on the CL-40 makes the brief protetion from the APS useless in comparison to something like landmines or grenades would offer offensively.

It's unbalanced.

[drifting pawn]

really need to step up the QA checks for contracts. the deal damage with gas/fire isnt counting flamethrower. it either needs to be fixed to count flamethrower or the text needs to be clear

[quasi wyvern]

match making needs fixing, 3 straight powershift games i joined were already started and almost to the end with the enemy winning. im a casual player and this is super annoying

[chilly valley]

The "EEEEOOOOEEEEOOOO" thing isn't good, actual chants would be better

[late ocean]

Medium Grenade launcher needs to be fixed ASAP this is starting to be ridiculous embark

[tribal hinge]

50hs 50m +

Once again not fun
Especially in a game where almost all fights are CQB or below 50m
It really doesn't help anyone at 50m becomes blurry and some cases laggy making them super hard to track

[uneven dagger]

assign one class per account based on real world legal height

[tough folio]

Outside of the damage output of the mediums at the moment. Can there be some change made to how defibing works due to fights lacking substantial death consequences? At the moment, if you're fighting a good team, you will have to kill each person just about twice on just one team alone.

Maybe test defib as a specialization.

[surreal meadow]

**EMBARK!!

DROP 5v5 CASH

AND MY WALLET IS YOURS!!! Day 30/100 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥**

[chilly niche]

Ranked is in a great state but there's some thing i do hope they change and improve with it. I think a big thing is personal performance being taken into accounts, its literally the only good thing Terminal Attack had going for it yet they scrapped it from cashout. I think the fact you gain / lose elo based soley on tournement position is a little stupid (it fits with the gameshow theme in universe but for a video game ranking system it is pretty stupid, for example you could have like a 10+ KD, 10K in all 3 scores, and lose to a team by $500 with a combined score of less than half of your own personal score, and you will lose 1000+ points, where as they will gain 500+, even though realistically you are a better player in every capacity, they just got a last minute steal or something, or maybe your own team just got third partied the entire game.

There's been a lot of games where i have blatantly carried my team in every regard only to lose the exact same amount of Elo as them, its is clear im a better player but have just been put in a bad team.

I know personal performance could be a hard thing to manage in the Finals as something as simple as holding E on a cashout at the last second can win you a game, and theres not really a good way to reward players for them small plays that dictate a match, but i think overall a small change to your Elo for having more / less score than your team or other players in the lobby wouldnt be a bad idea.

[sudden spire]

This game is so laggy

[lone meadow]

Can we see profiles of friends when clicking on them?

[bold berry]

CL-40, do something about this.. playing as a Heavy or Medium vs this is stupid.. the game turns into a caothic Boom boom boom.. there is no fun in this.

Also.. the Rocket launcher can deal 174 dmg to me.. but only 100 to the oponent.. but two CL-40 can two tap a Heavy. Where is the fix to the "opening" in this?

In the heavy.. make the charge reduce some of the incomming damage.. or remove the initial build up.

CL-40, remove it until it gets reworked..

[elfin dock]

Guys hear me out NERF PIKE

[frank ruin]

Can’t find ranked matches with cross play off. Don’t want to compete against people with a distinct advantage. Please fix. Allow console cross play and have it on by default.

[fading wadi]

give medium evasive dash and give light demat

[pseudo leaf]

i never seen this wrong but right feedback

[violet matrix]

Delete cl-40 is so pathetic gun

[distant pagoda]

gigabased

[wind reef]

hell yea

[sage sonnet]

what are the cutoffs?

[rough storm]

Make CL shoot nuclear missiles and make model fully automatic. OH and remove the recoil and double the damage too!!!! 👁️ 👄 👁️

[hazy shore]

make stun gun an stun a insta kill to counter cl meta

[royal maple]

MMM is jjust better

[dense marlin]

Remove hidden deadzone and add outer deadzone slider to controller 😐