#👂┇game-feedback

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lilac epoch
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Who hurt you lol

cosmic ether
glad vapor
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It takes quite a while for the strong attack to wind up, and you can see them telegraph it pretty much immediately

hearty bough
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Bro this is the one of the lowest-IQ takes I’ve seen on this discord… Sledge is VERY difficult to be effective / use well / win games with, and honestly this applies to all of the melee weapons

loud zephyr
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Wild suggestion how about doing or giving people specific challenges for them to improve either their skills on a weapon or gadget so they can get some cosmetics for either that weapon or gadget and you do that on their birthday, actually may do like events around peoples birthdays in a month and they get cosmetics that relate to their month and their birthdate or name is on their weapon like some shit like that even though you devs or mods won’t look it this I feel like this game has a lot of involvement with the players and I hope it stays that way no matter how long this games last through its highs and lows I will be their and people don’t clown on me.

rapid stream
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S key exists

pseudo leaf
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most of them are just lucky or boosted them self with cheaters

quasi gazelle
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What happened to those themed events from season 1? They were so dope.

slate prism
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How does this game not have Team Deathmatch yet???

severe geyser
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I'm seriously tired of getting lobbies like this... 5-stack vs a solo queue? Cmon Emark do better ffs.

Forced to dodge cuz I aint risking a free lose cuz of how bad your ranking system is...

Please add an option to remake... Similar to other big games that can remake... Honestly if there are such games where we can play against cheaters, or against people who are matched unfairly... this option needs to be added into the game.

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smoky gust
fluid anchor
sick forum
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dog ur a light just run away lol (from a light main)

young hamlet
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Require phone number verification to play ranked
Credit goes to @quick coyote
Little Timny could always use his moms number, so it's not like we're locking anyone out of ranked

autumn sedge
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Revert m11 nerf

hollow cloak
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Lower the jump pad health cause it would be much easier to destroy them (Now it takes around 10 hits )

quasi gazelle
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I’ve been saying the same thing ! Just a regular slayer! No cash involved.

woeful arch
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Really, really don't like that Kyoto map at all, for anything but Quick Cash. Just out of a Power Shift game. Enemy team player was hidden and sniping and spamming projectiles from higher up on the platform and/or a house. We couldn't find quick enough the rope to get up on the platform because the player would snipe us down by the time we'd find it (it was confusing with lots of greenery around, too many things to look for before finding that yellow rope compared to other maps). Then I tried to go up the stairs of a house thinking the player might have moved there,but couldn't verify because I couldn't find stairs (they were deleted, likely?), so by the time I went back to the platform, the Sniper player had gunned down teammates and their team moved along the platform and won. There's way too much going on on that map compared to other maps. Thumb down every time, wish I could filter it out.

topaz seal
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Pls make this happen

woven viper
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I'll join as well. I stopped the game due to TA becoming ranked. Truth is, i like TA, but i like the original idea better. Bring back the Cashout Ranked.

formal willow
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more riot shield skins please hug_friend

noble ermine
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getting this error over and over, if not this similar texture errors

zinc prism
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gg

rough herald
prime junco
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game is dead every solo q i have cheaters

solemn light
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Logs in to check challenges
Sees terminal attack related challenge
Logs off

spark shard
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79 days to go until the end of season 3, do you think the situation is sustainable in this state? There are still many days left and the feedback is terrible.

rough axle
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games great yall trippin

oak mural
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Logs in to check challenges
Sees terminal attack related challenge
Logs off

late raft
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I shouldn’t be losing RS in ranked terminal when someone on my team quits the game in the first round and when I play the best on my team…

lunar creek
eternal wigeon
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Saying the range is a downside is an understatement. And boohoo, you got too close to the hammer wielding maniac and stayed there. You're a light for Pete's sake, just run or use either hook or dash.

river plaza
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EDD#6254

wide mortar
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respectfully if you're dying to a heavy sledge alt as a light you got caught with your pants down

rough herald
solemn light
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Logs in to check challenges
Sees terminal attack related challenge
Logs off

near comet
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Game is grand

woeful arch
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Positive feedback (I know I rant a lot about that darn Kyoto map and I can't be bothered with "everybody-leaves-mid-game" TA game mode anymore so yeah gotta balance it up to be fair about my love for the game):

  • The skins in the battle pass this season are chefkiss chefkiss There's literally a chef outfit in there 😂 Let's just have a "chef kiss" emote already! haha
  • Really hype that you kept the extra levels going this season too, the content on those extra battle pass levels look luxurious, really amazing design
  • Power Shift on the Monaco (I think) map has been more fun thanks to @thorn kelp tip to use Anti-Gravity Cube as a way to get back on the platform when playing a Heavy. I have only used it once, and only today but it helped me get back on the platform + kick enemy players from it lol so that was fun. The Finals has quite the healthy + helpful community for an FPS which is commendable.

We appreciate your work on this game, devs & all who work on making it fun to play ❤️

thorn kelp
boreal sentinel
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Are you fucking kidding me? Instant death from full health is not a problem for you? Fun. Though ofcourse, you are a bloody Light main after all. How the fuck can anyone react to a light dashing straight to you and turn 180 degrees and die in 1 second. Bullshit weapon for no skill players.

Reply: What a joke. Every dagger players i see on a match is on a killing spree. You dont even know the exploit being used for dagger players to get instant kill and im the one with the skill issue? Sure! I have 100% chance to survive just by looking a light dagger for 1 second! You're a clown for a Light. Go watch some youtube videos about dagger exploits then you can stop being a clown.

quick coyote
# boreal sentinel Are you fucking kidding me? Instant death from full health is not a problem for ...

Instant death that can be prevented by simply moving your mouse... And turning around. It's one of the easiest weapons to counter in the game. One of the worst weapons in the game, one of the jankiest, too.

Instant death only applies to unaware and out of touch players. Maybe try being a bit more aware next time, basically: skill issue.

Dagger is complained about like once a blue moon cuz everyone knows it's trash and fair when it works.

mossy rose
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There's a huge uptick in Cheaters in Asian server again. TA, World tour. Maybe CN has new cheats that Embark needs to get on top of asap because the "DY" cheater team is ruining World Tour in Ranked and Unranked cheaters boosting Plat teams. Please create a rule that an unranked player can never play in plat / Diamond lobbies this will drop the demand of Cheater boosting especially in Asia.

rough herald
warm vessel
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Hey so i was just put into a match, everything was going well until i was called the n word by this player. Dont know what for but yah AlexPereira#6421

upper citrus
frank blaze
clear hemlock
thorn kelp
drifting gorge
quartz shell
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katana needs buff I think, the fact that its server based kills it

hollow breach
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Implement a weekly rotation of (old) game modes, offering a different mode to play each week. This approach prevents long queues and avoids splitting the player base, issues that permanent game modes typically cause. Modes like Team Death Match and Guns Roulette, which don't work well as permanent fixtures due to declining popularity and long queue times, can be included. This change will also allow for more variety in challenges and other in-game activities.

vernal swallow
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let me place barricade on the walls/ceiling, then only lights can slide under or something, also make grenades blow up buildings again and make the chain weapon able to grab things out of peoples hands (and nerf it too like the stun or time it takes to pull someone cuz it’s super annoying and overpowered right now)

nova flower
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How to counter dagger: turn mouse slightly so backstab becomes 50 damage instead of 320

You are welcome (that'll be $9.99)

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outer iron
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i think the ranked system needs a lock so new players cant q in with gold players!
77k rs vs 93k rs amazing!!

manic prairie
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seriously how long it takes to fix that loading screen freeze 🤔

quick coyote
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Why the fuck is Ta still in ranked. Bruh is it that hard to change the mode😐👈

vernal swallow
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can you just make it so we can reorder custom match teams already? It was annoying enough having to do solo bank it to 1v1 but now we can’t and even though you technically need 2 people to start the match you now need at least 6 to do a fair game

rapid stream
rugged temple
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People really complaining about things like sledge and dagger 💀

crystal umbra
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New Game Mode Concept: ✨"Blitz"✨Day 2

Here is an idea for a new game mode in The Finals, inspired by Hardpoint

CORE PRINCIPLES:

Appeal to new players:
Faster respawns and a focus on maintaining control of a designated area make it easier to jump in and contribute.

Fast-paced and engaging:
Short to medium length matches and constant objective switching keep the action flowing.

Teamwork encouraged:
Earning money is based on team presence within the zone, rewarding coordinated pushes and revives.

  • I believe the long respawns in every game mode has turned away a lot of people. "Fast paced & Chaotic" don't seem palatable when mixed with high respawn times. I understand we want to incentivise team work and revives but I think a game mode with fast respawns is well overdue in a game like The Finals.

GAMEPLAY:

Team Setup:
Two options for team size: 3 teams of 4 players.

  • Here I want to increase team size because I feel like people want bigger team sizes in the finals and we want a lot of destruction.
    I feel like 3 teams of 4 wouldn't be too much and would be fun for a casual game mode.

Blitz Zone:
A designated area on the map becomes the objective (Blitz Zone or whatever it's named). It can be circular, shaped like a building, or highlighted by a beam.

Earning Money:
Teams earn money based on the number of players within the Blitz Zone. More teammates present translates to higher earnings per tick.

Example:
-One person in the area will earn the base amount of points - $10 per tick

-Two people earn the base amount of $10 per tick PLUS $5 each (since there are 2 team mates inside.)

-Three people all earn the base amount of $10 per tick PLUS a bonus of $10 each (since there are 3 team mates inside

-Full team will receive a base amount of $10 per tick PLUS a bonus of $15 or $20 (since there is a full team alive in the zone)

Penalties & Rewards:
"Direct Deposit" - Kills have a small siphon effect where you take money from the enemy you killed and it's added to your team total balance.
NOTE: Only kills between players inside the Blitz Zone have siphon effect. ✨Clutch players rejoice✨

"Team wipe" aka "Bankruptcy" - Same as cashout, you loose a percentage of your teams balance if your whole team is dead at the same time.
("Bankruptcy" might be too much for a casual mode since it makes another variable to calculate mid gunfight. Might but be good for the gamer that wants to just shut their brain off. If they play this and don't care about score tm8s will complain and ruin the mood... 🤷🏾‍♂️)

Match Duration:
The game lasts between 5-10 minutes with the Blitz Zone active for 2-4 minutes before switching to a new location.

Suggestion:
For all casual modes, turn on auto Re-que. It's a wise decision.

This is a starting point, and all aspects are open for discussion and refinement.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

unique rain
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overwhelming cheater problem, anyone over there gonna wake up and do something or wait till the games even deader? already down another 8k avg players since new season

last swift
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Asking again: I’d love a channel for the devs to share their thoughts and respond to ours. Let us know you’re at least listening. Tell us why you are making a change or why you won’t make one. If there’s a big issue tell us you’re working on it. I’m not trying to add more to your to do list but most of us feel like our feedback goes unheard. Some of the things we complain about that seem like simple fixes can take a month to be changed.

still portal
sacred glacier
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m60 buff

quick lodge
hazy shore
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winchclaw needs wind up, it shouldnt be instant

glossy phoenix
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I just got kicked for the 30th time for using the v95. I have a theory that it might be the high cps that I get (it's about 10-15). the game says i'm using a "dissalaowed tool" so maybe it thinks i'm using an autoclicker? (i'm not) or maybe it thinks i'm using some hack to increase my gun's fire rate. (also not doing that) and no one dare tell me to "jUst cLicK sLowEr" because it's my playstyle and the finals is a game where you can play however you want to play (without using cheats) . Thx embark ❤️

lone ruin
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Croud is too loud. maybe do a setting where we can disable it

brisk star
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Molotov skin for the pyro grenade please. It would be quite easy and it would be awesome.

molten trail
frosty swallow
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why have the devs still not fucking fixed the fucking bug where you try to load into a fucking game and you get stuck on the fucking loading screen until you fucking restart the game, its been here since fucking season 1 how is it not fucking fixed

drifting pawn
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what's taking so long to fix the bug where terminal attack is the ranked mode? noone wants that shit

subtle saddle
vernal swallow
viral mountain
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I wish we have a player filtering system when playing WT or something, filter them by class, I'm sick of getting so many noob Lights on my team

digital shoal
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VRS need more purpose.

I think the community would appreciate being able to rename contestant profiles. i.e. Healer instead of Medium 1.

Emotes in lobby would be a welcome addition.

Please do a Mexico map and add a Luchador skin to go with it.

Throwing knives need a "overheat" function. i.e. Arm gets tried after continuously firing for too long.

Some of the hanging ladders on SYS HORIZON are difficult to grab when jumping at them. Some times you just clip rigth through and miss them.

quick coyote
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Yes we need this embark, also new idea for LTM called Heat wave where we need to stay indoors or in the shadows to avoid burning to death until timer is over and it's safe to walk outside

plain lotus
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AKM just shoots and shoots and shoots and gets every skin in the game a variety of options yes, but are you getting sprayed down with when you don't use it? Full autos.

raven topaz
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-1k RS 15 kills 7 assists seems fair since having a good team is luck based, cheaters every few games makes it even better

frigid jolt
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plush grotto
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Revert m60, Lewis, and fcar nerf until s4

celest forum
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Separate statistics for each build type H,M,L.
With unique statistics for each such as, Structural Damage done for H.
Damage healed with Healing Beam for M
And I'm not sure what for light.

My thought is, if I main heavy I don't want to punish my statistics for playing around with medium/light builds for fun.
Also unique cosmetics for leveling up each class with separate rewards for each class would be cool too. Push players to try new things.

pseudo leaf
urban marsh
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Soo one feature i kinda want is to have some spaces to save the cosmetics you want, for example i might have a day i fell purple and i use the rainbow akm, and other day maybe gold and i want a gold akm, and i really want to have some saved somewhere so i don’t need go manually selected. Same for clothes

sacred glacier
somber axle
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  • Make C4 have 2 charges again
  • Pls buff m60 damage
  • Reduce the recoil for Lewis Gun
  • Nerf Lh1
  • Nerf throwing knives
  • BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT
polar tapir
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Do whatever to guns

  • Just bring back my ranked cashout
icy hull
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Dropping this in real quick!

Feel like lights are given such a wacky place in a team based game, but I feel like all thats in the game right now is fine! Just needs a little reorganizing

Lights should have the defib and switch the sonar to the heavy.
Medium should have the stun gun.

Reason why lights should have the defib is because there's no reason for a light to actually be around to interact with the team (or add to the risk for them.) Also, they can just take the downed player out of combat, defib so both players are safe.
Also this solves the unfortunate team comp that is triple mediums with heal gun and defibs.

Mediums having stun is great considering the fact how its now not paired with EXTREMELY fast kill time weapons lights tend to have. Also mediums can't just simply run away so easily after using it like a light would (So it'd be less annoying and also promote more team communication)
Essentially more utility and choices for medium to have instead of ALWAYS needing defib.

Heavy having the sonar I feel would change things up a little with a kind of nerf to the sonar. One charge, bigger radius! Lights having sonar is just essential and doesn't really have much competition in terms of equipment, so it' just being spammed all the time. Putting it on the heavy however, they've gotta choose between other very good gadgets now like the rpg, dome shield, barricade, genuinely the rest of the gadgets.

But ye, thats my suggestion and reasoning!
Feel like it'd solve a good bit of issues :0

autumn sedge
prime pawn
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This game thrives on the creativity on utility of equipment. if you change too much about the fundamentals of the game when it was fun in the beta and early seasons, then the game becomes entirely seperate mechanically. Ive seen cool shit thats been implemented here like no other game but if you continue to listen to the brand new members of the community who are unaware of very easy counters, you just create a "balanced" game for the new players. Unfortunately, the higher ranks suffer on mechanical changes and knowledge built from previous versions. Adapting to updates and change is one thing, but its changing way too much (for me personally) and its hard to keep up with the more delicate changes. I kinda liked dying instantly, its a punishment for getting too risky and now that my old run and gun playstyle definitely feels outclassed, but it was fun having all the chaos.

kinda changed the subject a bit but two polar opposite metas clash so well it feels more slow

alpine aspen
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Hi- Could we please please please have a "No" reaction. I'm tired of leading and losing because a teammate rushes to a cashout 30s before the end and we get it stolen. I'm fine with new players not reading the game, but at least let me tell them they're wrong 😦

frosty swallow
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guys i have an unreported bug: they accidentally made TA the new ranked mode instead of cashout??? anyone else experiencing this bug idk it might just be me

solemn light
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Skill issue

pseudo relic
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Did anyone else not get their multibucks for touching gold four?

crystal umbra
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✨FREE IDEA✨ Day 24

"Hey bro, do you wanna join our company?"

Encourage us to play and make friends. I'm talking about make The Finals about team play (Way too much solo culture in ranked)

They need to make a "squad" system next season.
For obvious reasons I believe this idea will lead to a exponential engagement effect, let me explain:

"Squads" or "Companies" should be able to select or vote for sponsors:
-Vaiiya
-Volpe
-Engimo
-Ospuze
Etc.

During the season we should be able to grind for "fame" so we can get company drip (cosmetics) for completing these "company contracts".
(Gives me reason to hop back on the game, me and my friends are working towards a goal now. +++ Add Bonus Points for playing with company mates)

This may take the place of circuits but I think my ideas fits the theme of the game-show AND this gives people a reason to play with friends and implore their friends to hop on The Finals with them.

Create specialized cosmetics for these sponsors. Once your company selects one they are locked in for specialized one-time cosmetics.

This creates urgency AND rarity since -for example- the season 4 OSPUZE set will never show up again. (Same for Engimo, Vaiiya, etc.)
Remember, ONLY AVAILABLE FOR ONE SEASON

Top companies (companies with the most "fame" or money cashed out) are showed on the World Tour leaderboard.
There they should be able to display or link their Twitch and other socials.

✨((MAKE YOUR CONTESTANTS STARS))✨
Appeal to human nature and give us something to talk about amongst ourselves. Give us something to brag about.
"Oh shxt, that's Ottr from 'x' Company".

In real life athletes have sponsor drip, well in The Finals - The world's greatest game-show - it's no different.

We get to flex our specialized drop from our favorite sponsors (opportunity to expand the lore)
And the top, most loyal finalists get shouted out.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

dawn hazel
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RANKED TA SUCKS BALLS. AT LEAST REMOVE INVISIBILITY IN TA FOR GOD’S SAKE

versed cloud
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Nerf throwing knives

icy hull
# autumn sedge To be honest this is pretty good besides the part where heavy gets sonar. Like y...

That's kinda the thing!
If heavy has a lot of great gadgets to choose from, might as well give them a harder dilemma to deal with having to choose from pretty fundamental things.
Actually having to consider using sonar or no. For lights it's a guarantee, for medium it's a guarantee. Heavy however, they've gotta consider defense like barricade and dome shield (goo grenade too possibly), destruction like c4 or rpg, or some general utility like grav cube and even mines. All valid gadgets. So giving them the sonar makes the team have to think about what they REALLY need. (aka, less sonar spam so it fixes that problem >:0)

glossy phoenix
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Buff 93r

tender sail
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Remove TA from ranked, no one fucking likes your Wish CSGO

inner stone
brave sable
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passive abilities/perks for each build would be pretty cool

marsh raptor
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Yes !!! Please or like a "Woops" emote. Which can have more versatility contextually than "sorry".

Would be great to have this.

rapid stream
candid belfry
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Can someone explain to me why my life of the party achievement hasn't been unlocked it's been stuck on 90% since season 1

plush ivy
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is the light class design to be as annoying as possible?

zealous pulsar
night glen
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Having to wait SOOOOOO LONG at the first esc screen, after a match, is the BEST addition to this game. The devs should make that "appears like the game locked up" action even longer.

crystal storm
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Heavy:

  • RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 100, full damage only on direct hit
  • Winch hook > remove from game, or rework it completely
  • Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 750 to 700
  • M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters
  • Lewis gun > clean up the recoil pattern to be less aggressive horizontally
  • Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you cant instantly kill M's, reduce cooldown. Should be more utility than 1 shot cheese.

Medium:

  • Recon senses > re-add to game - rework to be a single ping like recon nades but originating from the player. 3 charges with a pretty long recovery time
  • Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.3s so it doesnt instantly shoot if you are in its FOV
  • Defib > Remove invincibility time after getting ressed
  • FCAR > 3rd shot of recoil jumps way to hard right, reduce that horizontal recoil
  • FAMAS > Increase damage drop off range, replace the terrible ironsights with RDS or holo.
  • R.357 > increase damage drop off range and slightly lower reload time

Light:

  • Grappling hook > lower cooldown

  • Throwing Knives > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance, boost initial velocity, Lower fire rate

  • LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate

  • 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

  • DB > lower damage to 145 damage

  • V9S > Lower fire rate but increase damage (1 less shot to kill)

  • Explosive mines > damage from multi mines exploding from different sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 100

  • Cash-out should periodically give cash over time in a couple of instances (ie: 3k-5k-10k). Many high ELO games just becomes stalling for first 75% CO the time.

  • Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently, you cant balance the game for TA and CO at the same time, one will always suffer

sacred glacier
daring fossil
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I was just 5 feet away from the cashout and heard "weeewooo" and then it was stolen, like less than 2 seconds of alarm. You guys really need to fix this shit since season 1

jagged knot
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I think Embark and Devs have given up on this Game completely... They are just pumping skins to get some money back.

burnt notch
crystal umbra
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✨FREE IDEAS✨Day 4:

The finals is lacking heavily in the community features department.

"The world's greatest gameshow" is a great opportunity foundation and a lot can come from it, so, let's talk about it:

Social Media Linking:
Add ways for us to integrate our socials and allow us to share our clips and stats.
Everyone is chasing clout and being a content creator is becoming a viable career option for some people. Become the facilitator and reap the benefits.
(Free promo and additional engagement)

Company system:
For the last 20 days I've been pasting an idea where we highly encourage the creation of "Clans" in the finals. I call them "companies" since we will be "working" with the sponsors in game for highly desirable one-time cosmetics.
(Increases player count, player hours, encourages team play, helps expand the lore a bit, & gives sponsors a more integral role in The Finals)
+Do not let me down I swear to God.

Pregame Lobby & File share system:
I don't know how the new pregame Lobby would work but the current "lobby" system is kinda bare bones and doesn't do much for community.
I completely understand opting to omit a lobby and only have us talk to team mates since the game is pretty competitive
BUT
Having an ability to share clips or view clips would be cool.
Just sharing a thought here, still, I can't help but feel like the lobbies could be done so much better...

Spectate Mode:
This one I hold dear to my heart.
Imagine, the top "companies" -as mentioned above- or top ranked contestants UNLOCK or are invited to be an in-game streamer.

Lol hear me out: in game they can now see how many of US are watching THEM play The Finals.
Kinda like, we make the top 500 leaderboard more useful since we can click on their position on the leaderboard and watch them if they are currently in game, or if they have any clips uploaded. *And this makes things more competitive since they have direct line of sight for anyone logging into the game and looking at the leaderboard.

Of course a lot of the top Finalists are already on twitch but that would be such a flex. We could also make it a twitch integration kinda thing on top.
(Nevertheless, free promo for top finalists, free promo for The Finals, even more reason to reach the top)

Thank you for your consideration 🚀

tropic swift
worn tapir
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killcams

versed cloud
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Nerf model 1887 or Buff the revolver

sacred glacier
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make the next weektly update removing terminal attack entirely and apologizing to us

shell raven
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increase the depth of dematerializer

silent fog
#

Please give us the option to turn off the obnoxious crowd cheering the whole time.

celest forum
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Wheres our LTM?

daring fossil
young hamlet
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Reduce defib cooldown slightly, BUT if you miss your defib it still consumes a charge

drifting quarry
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Ban players who use external crosshairs

wise cliff
clever marlin
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make a throwing knife skin tht throws a PIE

harsh torrent
tropic kayak
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re-add the ability to not join ongoing matches

fair osprey
#

A simple balance suggestion for the Defibrillator:
Make the cooldown much shorter if used on an enemy.

stable spear
uneven prism
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optimize this game pls stop the radom freezing and frame drops mid fight 😿

stone hazel
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putting a single glitch mine on the platform in powershift completely cancels out heavy's charge and smash
i just dropped down from super high and it did nothing because of a single glitch mine cancelling it while it was already in use
what is this? why wouldnt it just prevent charge and slam from starting? why does it cancel it as it's happening thats absurd
that makes charge and slam completely useless in power shift if one enemy has glitch mines

daring fossil
toxic coyote
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Can we get slightly better front sights on the R.357? Doesn't need an optic but a front sight that sits slightly higher will make it feel more consistent and justify its range

raven topaz
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45k RS lower team, boosted bronze with us plats and one ruby, obv he plays super bad, -800 RS. Embark wants us to pay for cheaters boosting. I face cheaters every few game

drifting quarry
quick coyote
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fix your fucking desync and fisher price fuckin servers bro what the fuck pentium servers arae you running

teal coral
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Remove the terminal attack as main mode, Because WORLD TOUR is the USP of FINALS.

tiny fiber
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For anyone (like me) who wants Ranked Cashout back please have a look at this reddit post. Embark says they removed it due to it being unbalanced. This is a proposed solution to balancing. Hopefully the devs see this and bring back ranked cash out:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/cFiEX9xWiB

ebon bone
# crystal umbra **✨FREE IDEAS✨Day 4:** The finals is lacking heavily in the community features ...

I agree with the social media system for a game like this. Text chat needs to be added for lobby idk why thy haven't done that yet.

I'd definitely thought it'd be cool for a spectator mode to where you can actually sit in the stands like what you see on the Monaco map as like a virtual viewer to where you're looking down and seeing what's going on in real time... If this game's esports scene took off thatd be a cool feature.

eternal wigeon
undone monolith
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game broken

twin carbon
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Make Orf BackPack orf_happy season four ranked happy_friend
Day 2 of asking out of 100 frogonesie
Day Sixteen frogonesie of asking for TA mode ranked sad_friend to be changed back to Cashout happy_friend
(16/100 left to go)

sweet bone
sudden tangle
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anyone in menu? how many days left of this (shit) season?

minor wave
#

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 1

My patience just ran out in Ranked Terminal Attack and I have reasons for you to understand why it's not enjoyed.

Cashout Tournament is a far better competitive experience in quality, quantity, and enjoyment.
A very big thing with Cashout is that you only need to make it to round 2 in order to "Win". This alone has multiple things going for it.
Getting to round 2 feels easier to achieve since the real goal is to make it to the end of the tournament. Sure, it's still a 50/50 chance to win but it FEELS easier.
Even if you do lose, Cashout lets you leave once you're disqualified, allowing you to log more games and get more Wins. These wins being longer than losses also grants a more satisfying experience since you are spending MORE TIME WINNING even though everyone else is getting the same treatment.

Terminal Attack FAILS ON ALL ACCOUNTS with this.
Instead of a loss being a quick in and out and a victory being a long exhilarating experience, TA is a slog. If you get bad teammates or someone Disconnects in TA, you have to spend AT MINIMUM 7 rounds waiting for mercy! This is with the long loading screens and prep time and all your struggling in a desperate attempt to salvage the mess making it a miserable AND long experience. It's even worse if you lose a close game because then you have DOUBLE THE LENGTH for TWICE THE FAILURE.

latent stirrup
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please nerf these throwing knives

lime lichen
raven topaz
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party members should definitely be able to invite friends and text chat should be enabled for those without mic

whole acorn
tall wave
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whats with the server lag? its really bad and have gotten it 3 games in a row

undone monolith
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yea its all day

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 1 My patience just ran out in Ranked Ter...

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 2

Let's set up a scene. You and your crew make it to the end of a Ranked Game but lose at the last possible second.
In Cashout you get a fair bit of Ranked Points, the confidence to play again since you got that far, and the pride of knowing you beat 14 other teams in the process!
In Terminal Attack you lose 30 minutes of your life plus the previous HOUR you spent getting the Ranked Points you just lost!
Alternatively, if you lose as early as possible in Ranked Cashout still wins.
Cashout is a continuous round where you can do whatever and try to 3rd or 4th party into a sneaky win. Victory still feels attainable despite the situation being a guaranteed loss in the scenario. This provides less mental fatigue to the player and a more engaging experience.
Terminal Attack is a collection of small fights between preparation screens making you have to literally WAIT TO LOSE instead of PLAYING THE VIDEOGAME! Additionally, the hope of MAYBE pulling out a win in this situation is near 0 since, instead of just needing 1 lucky break in Cashout, TA needs you to luck out 7 TIMES! The mental fatigue of losing in TA is borderline abusive.

rugged kettle
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text chat is currently not mutable. Muted, blocked and reported someone berating me in text chat 3 games in a row, still could see everything and queue with him

tall wave
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throwing knives are too powerful :3, also to anyone who is spamming this channel with the same message over and over again please shut the fuck up youre making other peoples posts harder to read

frozen pelican
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I've been using throwing knives for a few weeks now, and let me say this: They absolutely don't need a nerf, and anyone claiming they do is simply bad at strafing. The knives are not easy to hit. You have to lead a significant amount, and that changes on any distance above 5 meters, requiring an attentive and adaptive playstyle. Not just that, but they have a hard cap range of around ~40 meters. It is simply impossible to hit a shot on someone any further than this, because the projectile time combined with them moving around, combined with your only long range option being an alternate fire that takes 2 seconds to wind up, guarantees you will never get anything more than a lucky peck beyond this distance. Compared to the sniper, which is point and click at any range within 80 meters, the knives suffer significantly if you don't wisely choose your battles. If you got killed by a light knives player, you let them get too close to you; end of story. They still had to risk getting that close to you, through your team, and at whatever position you're holding, and THEN STILL have to properly aim and lead their shots in order to kill you. The people who are going crazy with the knives are people who have practiced them until their fingers bleed, learning the new arc they have in S3 as well as learning how to properly lead them at any distance (up to 40m). Projectile weapons have been and will always be inherently more difficult to use than hitscan weapons, and knives are no exception. Compared to the sniper, where at LITERALLY ANY RANGE (as long as you can see your target) all you have to do is point and click. Not difficult at all, and in my own opinion, not rewarding. The knives are a high risk, high reward weapon. You have to get in their face to gain value from it; sniper is not. Pick sniper, sit on some random rooftop, and just bodyshot people and let your teammates finish them off, or put an ounce of skill into it and go for headshots, to the same effect. Knives do not need a nerf: players calling for these nerfs are all just salty they went against a light who bodied them because they were too stupid and let them get close. Sniper is what truly needs the nerf. Can't say just how many times a game was ruined because some coward sat on a roof across the map, shooting me once as soon as I try to engage so their team can just mop me up. How many other weapons can simply mark a player for death like the sniper can? The RPG is the only one that comes to mind, and it has a long cooldown. Pointing and clicking is easy, but leading your shots and tracing players is far more difficult.

kindred dirge
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Make level 40 players play world tour. I have a bad team of level 11s and made me lose.

upper citrus
zinc hearth
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Men Terminal Ataque is supose not have skills as Ghost, wtf you want to promote as competition if you can´t see a player?

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 2 Let's set up a scene. You and your cre...

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 3

Oh! this actually reminded me of another point. The term "Go Next" is a terrible phrase that should never be uttered in a competitive game. It means to give up in order to play the next match hoping for better odds. Cashout's lose condition is that you lose the first round when the time runs you. There is no grey area where trying harder will result in a longer loss. Round One ends and you either won or lost making the term "Go Next" nonexistent!
Terminal Attack is round based. Assuming 7 rounds in TA is the same as 1 round in Cashout (Even though it A LOT longer and you have to deal with the super long loading screen regardless of if you lose on round 7 or 13), if you don't like your odds, throwing yourself at the enemies and decreasing your rounds won will get you out of bad matches faster. Nobody wants to play 13 rounds just to lose, so players will opt to decrease that number as much as possible or just abandon the match because MATCH SUSPENTION TAKES LESS TIME THAN LOSING IN TERMINAL ATTACK which is TERRIBLE for your game's health. All of the players who are still trying their best or aren't doomer crybabies will have to deal with even worse odds with a 4v5. The "Go Next" mentality screws over people trying their best and it has been proven in ESPORTS that you will win games you never thought you would if you give up resulting in a higher win rate overall.
"Go Next" is evil and, while Cashout literally cannot endorse this behavior, Terminal Attack is designed around fostering this toxicity in its players.

tough merlin
# upper citrus quick cash warriors will tell you its OP

The only part id disagree here is they don't feel punishing to miss imo. they have decently enough fire rate and infinite ammo off sets the lower fire rate compared to a gun.

Think missing with mp5/v9s/sniper feels worse especially in 1vx fights. Knives shine in 1vx fights imo but I don't think they're as op as people are claiming. They feel bad to play against the same reason sniper feels bad to play against high burst damage, but not inherently high dps. I don't know tk's actually dps but sniper's like 90/150

I think if they gave them a reload people would quit complaining about them, and they'll likely still be good. assuming the reload is reasnable. If they gave it something as low as the sniper it'd go back to being a useless weapon imo!

young smelt
crisp ginkgo
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what if quick cash was the ranked mode? everyone seems to love quick cash, (including me) and i’m just wondering how good of a ranked mode it is

frozen pelican
# tough merlin The only part id disagree here is they don't feel punishing to miss imo. they ha...

Giving the knives a fair reload is a change I could get behind. The infinite ammo does allow you to keep throwing shots out nonstop, and stopping that would indeed likely make eveyrone quit their whining. But yeah, people get hit with 3 knives to the head and die in the span of 2 seconds and then come on this channel to bitch and moan about it, fully disregarding the fact that the other player had to aim, lead, trace, and LAND those three shots while moving, instead choosing to just moan "knives op"

regal salmon
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Yet another request to revert the Stun Gun changes.

It's a free kill, for what's already the most oppressive class in the game. It's a non-interactive, miserable way to die.

Light doesn't need it, and absolutely everybody hates dying this way. I honestly don't see how it's not just a net negative to the game in its current state.

tall wave
marsh raptor
hasty glacier
daring fossil
tough merlin
# regal salmon Yet another request to revert the Stun Gun changes. It's a free kill, for what'...

Except its not. You can easily turn and kill the person that stunned you. And if you're melee then they don't need to stun you to kill you. (I only bring this up because you brought up melee the last time this was posted.)

The only time stun feels "OP" is when you get stunned with a sword on you, But they're still a light and every class can kill them before they kill you. Tho if your a light its a toss up and you have to react fast, typically better to just counter stun the sword.

Better used on escaping/cashout denying.

Id rather die to a stun then die to an rpg >.>

The stun use to be insane but its a shell of its former self

quick coyote
fresh shell
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It's tuesday night... the amount of players online with a ludicrously high K/D (10x) really makes me think a banwave is overdue

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 3 Oh! this actually reminded me of anoth...

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 4

I mentioned waiting earlier which leads me to my next point. Terminal Attack has too much downtime and that's not something you can buff out. Cashout has a total of 3 mid-game loading screens to reset the arena. While these are a little long and mildly irritating, you can use those breaks to go to the restroom, eat a snack, grab a drink, or respond to a text.
Terminal Attack is divided into 1 long loading screen (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's the same length even though it feels twice as long) and 12 prep stages. It seems like that would balance out the time issue, but the prep stages interrupt the action between every round while Cashout doesn't have that disability. These prep stages are also intended to be "strategizing", even though Attack is just twiddling their thumbs the whole time, and that importance plus the short time frame means you cannot occupy yourself during the interruption.

quick coyote
thick sorrel
daring fossil
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double-barrel definitely needed a buff to make it better than it was in season 1. good job embark. hard eye roll

somber axle
stuck wigeon
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My humble feedback for world tour as we approach about a month of season 3:

I'm a big fan of the idea that the in-universe sponsors have their own rotating expos every couple of weeks with each new tour stop. And of course being rewarded with multibucks in accordance with our progression throughout the season is quite gratifying.

I think it would be great to see some expansion with some of the ideas in world tour, especially with regard to the sponsors and how players may interact with them. Something like being able to have our contestants sign on with Engimo, Ospuze, or any of the others (I have one of my contestants dripped out in all kinds of Ospuze gear with my head-cannon of them being a sort of mascot for them) to get little bits of unique goals/customizations for choices we make would be awesome.

Unfortunately, as much as I'm a fan of the concept of world tour and excited to see it be expanded upon, I have one big gripe with it. As someone who primarily played and enjoyed ranked tournament in the previous seasons, world tour currently just feels like that... but less. My ability to play tournament on a map I enjoy is completely at the mercy of the tour stop rotations.

SYS$Horizon is one of my favorite maps, yet I haven't been able to play it in my preferred gamemode for weeks just because it hasn't been active in the rotation. Inversely, if a map I'm not too fond of is in the rotation, then it's more likely I'll be stuck on that one for the next two weeks. I love Monaco, but I'm not too keen on playing it for (what feels like) at least 1/3rd of my matches. I'd much prefer to have all maps in the rotation, or even be able to select another circuit where I can play on the other half of the maps (though this could obviously impact queue times).

I love your game, Embark, and regardless of any other criticisms surrounding season 3 I think the foundation for world tour is promising and I hope to see it expanded upon in the seasons to come. ❤️

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 4 I mentioned waiting earlier which lead...

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 5

Both games have death penalties to keep things balanced.
Terminal Attack has it so that Death is Permanent. If you get capped by a Sniper in the first 10 seconds, you just have to sit there and watch other people have fun. You can't leave in case everyone dies too quickly, you just have to sit there while your team lambasts you (More on that later).
In Cashout, you can get revived or defibbed for an instant return to the battlefield. This makes you active and invested in what's going on because you can be thrown back in at any time and if your teammate revived you while someone is rounding the corner, you need to make sure your are prepared to fight once again. Even if that isn't the case, your mind is churning on the idea of coining or not. Cashout grants you coins to revive a limited amount of times. While you spectate your team, you need to evaluate if you want to spend that currency or save it for something worth while. Even if you know you're safe or don't plan on coining, you need to be prepared to do so at any time to save your team from a potentially game-losing team wipe. MULTIPLE TIMES TODAY I have had situations where my teammates were fine, but I was watching their health because if they started taking damage I'd need to coin to secure our win! I was engaged and invested in the game while I was dead. Even though I couldn't move, I was still Playing the Game.

harsh torrent
zealous walrus
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I think instead of forcing people to play heavy with challenges, you make the class actually fun to play.

narrow belfry
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Im gonna be honest whoever came up with TA and gave the absolute horrible idea of health cap should get fired smh

somber snow
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After match Summary "ESC - Main Menu" still broken. It causes the game to lag out / freeze until the countdown actually ends.

stoic imp
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Yo it would be dope if you make terminal attack torneys like first to 5 thatll spice the game up a little bit i think!!!!

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 5 Both games have death penalties to kee...

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 6

Speaking of "The Game", this is one of the biggest issues with Terminal Attack because it harms the soul of the game. I have no better way to describe it than this simple phrase...

"You CANNOT Reach The Finals in THE FINALS"

This is both literal and metaphorical. In a literal sense, Cashout is a tournament mode with the last round being "The Finals" of the tournament. Terminal Attack does not have that. Terminal Attack has a "Final Round" not "The Finals". Terminal Attack is just the end of a string of 5v5s between the same two teams. Cashout is two teams fighting for victory as the FINALISTS in a tournament.

Metaphorically, Terminal Attack is not THE FINALS. THE FINALS was always a hail of bullets between several teams in a high octane environment of switching between offense, defense, pursuit, evasion, and destroying everything in your way to achieve your goal of REACHING THE FINALS- I mean Cashing out with buckets of money.
Terminal Attack is not this. If I introduce someone to Terminal Attack, they always say "Oh, so it's Rainbow 6 Siege" or "Oh, so it's CS/GO". This has never happened with Cashout. The base gameplay of Cashout, and by extension Quick Cash, is so unique to THE FINALS that it is something I can only enjoy here. The entire identity of THE FINALS was constructed around this game mode and it is what brought all the fans to it that you have today! Making Terminal Attack the Competitive mode, making Terminal Attack the only source of rewards, making Terminal Attack THE FACE of the game betrays all of those people who believe this game is something special. You are trying to turn THE FINALS into a different game and if someone really wants to play that different game, then they'll just play a game that's supposed to be like that like Rainbow 6 Siege.

iron berry
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turn game feedback channel into a forums channel so that i don't have to look at ^ multiple times over and over again, and instead have a better time talking about other things, ideas and feedbacks (also easier for you embark people to look and see what the community wants)

pseudo latch
#

Day 111 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

Day one one one one one one one one one one one one

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agile wing
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I would LOVE and strongly recommend that the next ranked mode be something like a merge between Quick Cash and Ranked Cashout Tournament. Quick Cash always seems more fun, less stressful, more predictable, less RnG and still competitive. There is way more action, and you could balance that out or pull that back with fine-tuning the respawn system (e.g., keep it the same as Ranked Cashout Tournament was).

Here are some ideas that I think could make a really positive impact:

  • 3 teams instead of 4 and 1 vault instead of 2
  • make the cashouts worth a consistent amount (e.g., first to 3)
  • make the cashouts increase by much less after each pair (e.g., $2k)
  • eliminate or dramatically reduce the penalty for a team wipe
  • make kills and team wipes worth more $$
  • create consistent respawns for all teams (e.g., equal distance from objectives)
quick owl
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Just tried in training area, did you know a light cant triple dash outside of the range of the heavys winch claw?

winter vapor
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Nerf knives, devs. Open your eyes please, everyone is asking for it.

We know a member on your team can only kill with that op weapon, but sometimes you just have to learn to aim.

crystal umbra
daring fossil
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  • fix the loading screen bug
  • fix hitting escape at the end of the round to quit from freezing the game and taking longer than if I just wait through all the end screens
  • fix gas barrels teleporting and exploding in your hands (again)
  • fix the steal alarm only going off for 1.5 seconds out of the entire steal duration
  • fix mines and deployables from disappearing and then reappearing over a second later
  • fix cashouts appearing on a different floor than where they really are

There's probably a dozen other really super annoying bugs that have existed in the game since season 1 that I can't think of right now. These things should be a priority. I have over 1000 hours in this game and this shit is more annoying than any of the weapons or abilities in the game.

Also IMO everything you put in the game for season 2 is shit in one way or another, the winch claw was a really stupid idea and is more frustrating to play against than the medium grenade launcher was before everyone stopped using it.

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 6 Speaking of "The Game", this is one of...

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 7

That does bring up a tiny side note. Cashout and Terminal Attack are 2 different genres. People can enjoy both types of game, but the identity of THE FINALS is linked to Cashout and that fostered fanbase feels betrayed that you took their beloved game away from them and made it into a Tactical Shooter. I know I am. I hate Tactical Shooters and seeing that become the only "Ranked" mode in the game is a personal insult. I really want to get those Platinum Dual Blades to show off that I'm a melee main, but I'm not even having fun winning in Terminal Attack. Maybe I'll keep trying later this season, but if I don't hit Plat in the next couple of games I think I'll quit comp.** I have more fun losing in Cashout than I do winning in Terminal Attack.**

Well, since I mentioned "melee" it's time to mention the gameplay itself. First of all, you've disabled key items in the game. Some people like playing Healers in FPSs and you just forced all the Mercy and Medic mains out of the Ranked Mode. If being "The Healer" is what they are good at as opposed to accuracy, or your strategy with your friends is to have a dedicated Healer, you just don't get to play Terminal Attack. Have fun being Silver 4 if you don't have an aneurysm during your placement matches.

sweet bone
long void
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25% through season 3 and the heal beam glitch is still here ❤️

night surge
rapid plume
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I like how people keep begging for TK nerf but other guns like silenced pistol and smg are better in everyway. Nerfing TK would increase usage of those guns and the cycle repeats.

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 7 That does bring up a *tiny* side note....

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 8

But, that's just the Defib and Healing Beam being disabled. Surly no one else gets filtered by this balance change, right? ABSOLUTELY NOT!
I mentioned that I'm a melee main and I'm craving those Platinum Blades. As a melee main, I cannot stress enough how Anti-Melee Terminal Attack is. A big part of being a melee player is accepting that you are risking your life with every encounter, but as long as the enemy's health bar is empty before yours, you have won the exchange. With healing and most regeneration unavailable, you just lose. Someone accidentally hit you with a single bullet? Damn, that's crazy. Guess you don't have enough HP to fight anyone. You just survived a 1v1? Damn, that's crazy. Guess you get to hide in the corner for the rest of the game since someone sneezing 100 meters away is enough to one-shot you after you've regenerated to "max". This is extra noticable for Medium and Heavy. Light gets it easy since their melee oriented around being sneaky and they are only losing 50 hp if they survive. Medium and Heavy though? They regenerate to the same amount. The Class who has melee weapons designed for being shot at more than anyone else and the class who has the lowest speed, largest hit box, shortest average range, and 2 specializations for getting really close to the team full of XP-54s and Model 1887s? Yah, those two classes get the same treatment as the glass cannon class. Seems like a pretty big balancing oversight when the recorded reason for Cashout's current unranked status was to "balance" the competitive mode.

solemn light
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hey @minor wave you can add in the lack of communication from Embark, despite the fact that when they announced this change before season 3, they told us to "try it out for a few days and let us know". Its almost been a month and last week's patch we only got cosmetics. Cheaters situation? Also silence. The simple fact that EVEN if you want to try and practice TA by playing casual, there are also bannable instances where if you leave, you get banned like ranked. Why add a casual TA where I can do my challenges without stressing much but you need 5v5? Why not fill in with new people from a certain round? Meaning if its 1-2 then someone can join and fill in for the missing teammate, but not if its 3-1. Lastly, since, as you said, this is a dreading gamemode where sometimes you can be getting destroyed due to your teammates' skill or the fact that someone left, why doesn't Embark add a forfeit button? End the suffering of making us choose between an unenjoyable experience or a ban.

waxen hornet
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can we get an animation cancel for spear with its heavy attack i get caught off guard when it whiffs and get a bigger hitbox too please its still a pointy stick even if the blade doesnt hit it will still hurt with heavy swinging it like its dark souls

nova osprey
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Can we please add in two things for s4, can we please get 22nd century Antarctica as a map, I think it would be really cool to see that, like a frozen map, and a new event called flash freeze, where anyone outside immediately starts taking damage and slowing down, and then can we get a new heavy gun, that’s like a large laser cannons

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 8 But, that's just the Defib and Healing...

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 9

But removing the viability of certain weapons and playstyles has DEEPER consequences. Once again, Terminal Attack has come in to increase player toxicity. You'd think the addition of Text Chat and Voice Chat would be the things that unveiled the darker side of the gaming community, but it's Terminal Attack.
In Cashout, all builds are viable to some extent and because of that judgement isn't too common. Maybe you'll go 0/11 and get a "You suck bro" but that's about it. In Terminal Attack, if you are not playing a "Meta" build you won't be flamed. You will be Harassed.
I'm a melee main. My accuracy isn't great and I enjoy using melee weapons. I've spent many years honing my skills of punching people in the face while they try to shoot me. I am at my best with a melee weapon... which is forbidden in Terminal Attack. (More on that in Part 10. Outta space for the paragraph)

And yes @solemn light, the silent nature of the devs is off-putting.
While the devs of No Man's Sky went silent to focus on fixing their mistakes that they admitted to, we have been given no indication by Embark of something being done to right this wrong.
All we get is Scotty, June, and Arena Announcer telling us over and over again how exciting this change is and howwe apparently asked for this to happen. It's pretty rude to have your characters say "LOOK! WE LISTEN TO THE FANS AND CHANGED THE GAME FOR YOU!" while simultaneously ignoring the public outcry for this decision to be reverted. It also doesn't help that most people didn't want this change in the first place, so that "We listen to the fans" sounds more like "We decided you like this now."
I despise that my obligatory grind for Plat in a game mode I hate is being soundtracked by gaslighting and Embark Propaganda.

quick coyote
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Game is filled with bots

drifting acorn
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PLEASE MAKE A HARSHER PUNISHMENT FOR LEAVERS
this is damn near constant
playing a game and a teammate goes 0-3 in the first two minutes of the game and instantly decides to leave and makes everyone else miserable as hell
and also please fix loading screens too, I can’t tell you the amount of times I’ve been in a tournament and the screen is stuck and just constantly loading while background music plays
PLEASE FIX THIS ISTFG

solemn light
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 9 But removing the viability of certain ...

You are right, but the community needs to band together and hold Embark accountable. The problem is not only the severe lack of communication from the same company that said that this was their dream game, but also the division of the community to show the displease with the actual state of the game. Look at Helldivers 2 for example, they challenged SONY, a company 100 times larger than Nexon/Embark and flooded steam with negative reviews. Everyone took part in it, and forced the hand of the company to take accountability. In Europe, its vacation season and the euros are taking place, so I imagine that half of the team has taken their leave. Still, as you said, the LEAST they could do is to ADDRESS the community. ADDRESS that TA is causing a decrease in the games' numbers and a lower time spent in game. ADDRESS the cheater situation. ADDRESS the weapon balancing decisions: What is the reasoning behind the devs decision to balance weapons/gadgets??? Make the process TRANSPARENT and you will not only get support from your players, but also FREE ADVERTISEMENT. Players talking to each other saying that a game is awesome, and that the devs ACTUALLY LISTEN and CARE are the best ads you can ask for. Introduce polling into your discord. Let your Community Managers @bitter nexus @golden musk @feral osprey actually act as mediators for future decisions. Let the finals be a game where your players have a say that can actually impact the future of the game. If not, you can take a look at Rocket League, a game that had a lot of promise and a big playerbase. Then Epic came through and borderline abandoned it, milked its players and are just playing the waiting game. YOU CAN DO BETTER EMBARK. AN APOLOGY OR AT LEAST AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT YOU F******ED UP IS OKAY AND YOU WILL APPEAR AS HUMAN. WHAT IS YOUR ROADMAP FOR THIS GAME. WHAT IS YOUR END GOAL HERE? LEAVING YOUR PLAYERBASE IN THE DARK IS THE BEST WAY TO KILL YOUR GAME.

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 9 But removing the viability of certain ...

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 10

There is straight up discrimination against melee in Terminal Attack. While Cashout and all other game modes have yielded maybe 3 instances of toxic behavior towards me since the Open Beta, Ranked Terminal Attack has over doubled that in 2 days. I am specifically called out as being the problem regardless of if other teammates are struggling. Today I spent a lot of a round just eating bullets for my carries (TRACK DAMAGE BLOCKED ON RIOT SHIELD) but I still had some kills and assists. Did the carries who I was guarding blame the guy with 0 kills and 1k Combat Score? No. They blamed the tank who sacrificed his life for their killing spree as the problem.
The second I appear on the loadout screen, I'm hit with the "Why don't you just play XP-54?" and "We should just leave..." Being shamed for your loadout before the game even begins can hinder your ability to play well. You either go in ashamed and lack the mental fortitude to make the correct decisions in the heat of combat, or are enveloped in a desire to prove them wrong resulting in needlessly reckless behavior. But what if you do well? What if, despite the hardships of being countered by the game mode itself and being deemed a heretic by your peers, you still manage to perform well?

It's still hatred...

I had a game where, despite it being Terminal Attack on Vegas while I was playing Riot Shield (Vegas is really bad for Riot Shield), I was wrecking shop and cleaning up. I was one of the carries, being the last man standing multiple times and securing a triple or two. Despite my value to the team and top score, a Light with half my Elims decided they wanted to Shield Shame me the ENTIRE GAME! IDK if he was just blindly hating me for being a Riot Shield or if he was projecting because one of the worst weapons in the game was twice as good as his meta build, but that behavior is low-key psychotic and is being cultivated in the cesspool that is Terminal Attack.

iron berry
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theres no way you still have more to say

cosmic cloud
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There should be loss forgiveness for players who backfill on losing power shift games. Just backfilled a game that the opposing team had the platform about 90% (or more) to their base... The best I could do was chuck a few grenades before the game ended.

agile jacinth
pseudo latch
true lantern
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please nerf the turret 😭

solemn light
# solemn light You are right, but the community needs to band together and hold Embark accounta...

Continuation:
There is no hype for anything this season. YOU HAVE COMPETITION, THIS GAME IS NO LONGER UNIQUE. XDefiant which is also a FREE GAME released a couple months back and it is destroying you in every aspect. And, it was actually harder for them to gain trust of the community because its' parent company is none other than the despised Ubisoft. However, they do more than you do Embark. They listen to player feedback and implement patches for requested features or at least acknowledge them. They REVERT decisions based on community discontent. They SHOW A FREAKING ROADMAP FOR THEIR GAME. They hype up the community by not only teasing content, but by MAINTANING A HEALTHY, HAPPY RELATIONSHIP WITH THEIR PLAYERS. You have a F.R.E.E GAME! F.R.E.EE! Your only source of revenue lies with players' purchases ingame. If you push players away, their patience doesnt go forever. Each day you continue to remain silent, another player quits. I prefer to spend 5 dollars to buy a discounted Breakpoint and have fun with my friends than spend it in your store for a skin for a game for which its creators dont give a damn about.

edgy urchin
#

day 10 of asking embark to balance the finals!
double didgets lets go!

violet elbow
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Fix V9S visual recoil, give it slightly more range back so there is a reason to use it over the M11

minor wave
# minor wave Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 10 There is straight up discrimination a...

Multi-Parter so Follow the Chain: Part 11 (End Hopefully)

I spent like 3 hours writing this (And 5 and a half additional hours sending it one piece at a time) so I don't know if I missed something in there or not, but here you go.

I know most of the community is just saying "Bring back Cashout" and not explaining WHY Terminal Attack is so hated and I feel like I covered those bases.

TL;DR, Terminal Attack is slow, unengaging, unbalanced, toxic, not rewarding, not satisfying, not fun, and not THE FINALS.
Please make it make sense to me, because the more I have to think about that wretched mode, the more I wonder how you made such a big mistake in the first place. I NEED to know what's happening at Embark HQ. Are you ignoring us out of pride, or hiding out of regret and fear.

One Article said it was so you could do maintenance on Cashout and you didn't want to do that while it was the competitive mode. Seems strange since no other game does that.
Another article says it's because it will rank you based on your personal skill as a player and encourage team play, but that can't be the reason since Terminal Attack is HORRIFICALLY unbalanced, removes loadout options completely, and invalidates key aspects of certain playstyles.
It removes “Team Play” from the team game and only rewards your “Personal Skill” based on if your “skill” is using a 1v5 OP meta loadout or not.
If increasing "Team Play" was the reason for making Terminal Attack the Ranked mode, then how come everyone is just running solo builds and doing their own thing while team-oriented builds are all but outlawed in the game mode?

I- I don't know how this happened nor why it is still the competitive mode after such resounding hatred. For the sake of THE FINALS, I hope Cashout is back AT MOST by Season 4, because that hope is the only reason most people are still playing the game.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. TRACK DAMAGE BLOCKED BY RIOT SHIELD AND FIX ITS BUG WITH PYRO NADE!

hazy skiff
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lower the throwing knives damage PLEASE

tacit mist
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please remove terminal attack, this is really not fun.

lilac bay
eternal gorge
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Please overhaul your private match Ui and features

solemn light
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idk if anyone is reading these posts or not so since the rules dont detail that we cannot tag people how about we get some mentions going? @wide venture

wheat leaf
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constantly getting disconnected when playing with friends. 3 games in a row.

eternal aspen
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revert CL-40 cahnge, it sucks now

hasty cliff
solemn light
visual turret
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if a teammate is disconnected or kicked due to afk, others should be able to leave w/o a penalty in world tour.

not going to waste time to a doomed match with barely any compensation.

blissful sail
tacit mist
teal rock
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If you don’t know how to play TA you should stop speaking on it keep TA in the game

novel stream
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Add skin based matchmaking and put a lot of effort into it so it’s fair (including non-ranked modes)

somber hound
hallow spruce
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Just optimize the game, the game performs really bad since season 3 launch, there hasn't been much meaningful change since the launch as well except for the light nerf (which most people say is still not enough), idk if y'all have given up, but compared to season 2 - y'all haven't done much. Keep your head up. As long as y'all make some meaningful changes, the game's gonna be good.

hasty cliff
ruby aurora
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could we get a higher pitched ding and flash on sword lunge like we have on bow full draw 👀

waxen hornet
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also can i ask for a missile launcher primary for heavy

thick iron
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I love TA, mainly because it's 2 teams mode. What i don't like about it, is a big downtime between rounds. How about removing it, by giving players ability to adjust their loadout for the next round while they are playing or dead, for example through main menu?

fervent blaze
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amd frame generation when?

eternal warren
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What a sutpid systm you have. I came back for season 3 and was having fun with throwing knifes untill error came TGF0027 sometimes I get connected and sometimes just get kicked. What a stupid system you have. Uninstalling now. fed up with this and your cheaters too.

wispy vault
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Game Feedback: i was really critical about the change to TA in the beginning. Now i fucking love TA and hope it stay as rank mode in next season too !

vapid pine
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Bring back ranked cashout

rough herald
olive adder
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Bring back ranked cashout, please

quick coyote
sage oyster
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Can u fix the fucking game

young smelt
grave dew
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fix the ranked elo loss/gain... it is total bs, i lose more than i gain every single time. fix this shit immediately. also return elo lost from losing against cheaters, im sick of them.

obsidian solar
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BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
  • Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
  • Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
  • Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
  • Remove the fov zoom in and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.
  • Pyro grenades "stick" to the shield and burn the player forever, making it also impossible to see

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

  • Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

  • Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam
rough herald
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Low Gravity event Fix Suggestion

**Note: **

  • so whats bad about low grav? as a movement player i find low grav very annoying, yeah sure it make hard jump easier and impossible jump now possible but in combat it make jumping a death wish as it make you a very easy target when falling.
    (i have so many clip of me beaming people who use jump pad in low grav)
  • yeah sure thats what it suppose to do but it can be interesting without being annoying

Suggestion:

  • Remove it (boring)
  • Do nothing (lame)
  • Let me control how fast i fall by pressing the crouch button so jumping is now viable, and it make fight more interesting thx to more option of outplaying enemy gamer (pls?)
novel stream
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Make it so that the motion sensor can activate mines if the mines are placed with in a 2.5 radius (it can be adjust but the devs if it’s to big)

grand helm
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I'd love to see custom team sizes in private matches, could make things interesting

clear basin
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Anyone know a fix to the embark access token problem upon opening the game on steam?

latent urchin
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Idc about anything else. Just give me custom crosshairs please

jagged cradle
lavish shard
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NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE

boreal sentinel
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FFS embark. Can u at the very least make dual blades block hooks? Theres literally no chance of survival when you get hook! As lights at least you can dodge back but as M? You cant even fucking block hook by a whole fucking team full of roadhogs! Its already bad enough you cant solo kill a H with dual blades. Jesus!

snow steppe
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@pearl kiln
Dear game developers.

Please add the music item in the settings.
Please add music from the first season and the secondnamaheart

graceful glacier
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I belive when you get respawned after a team wipe you should be facing in the way of the #cashout it just makes more sense..

harsh torrent
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Dear dev,

TA Ranked matchmaking still ass… pls fix..

Love,
Me yesegg

formal sphinx
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Throwing knives are a fucking joke.

stable plinth
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horrible ranked game mode ngl
All the kids and russian leaving 1st round, you're stuck in the lobby for 30 minutes unless you just kill yourself, just a terrible mode

gaunt bronze
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How cool would it be to have some kind of way to show ur rank placement with a sticker

vapid pine
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Bring back ranked cashout

rough herald
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if the next patch note do fck all again im leaving bro
fix the damn game, i like playing it but theres no reason too (rank a joke and wt have no stake)

thick vale
steel marlin
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stop with the ridiculously high "deal damage with explosives/gas" challenges. they are incredibly tedious and boring and essentially require you to play grenade only matches to make quick meaningful progress (which is still slow)

silent fog
lavish shard
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NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE

undone kite
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Is it possible to add kill cams? Because I don’t believe half of my deaths…

lavish shard
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Not skill issue light is everywhere
Fast regen is not a problem
Its a meta
Light all weapons
Med dead
Heavy claw melee rpg

wraith orchid
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pls add lvl 9 skins

oak mural
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Push out a balance patch allready

fervent citrus
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Season 3 changes are mostly good. Health regen values, guardian turret change, glitch mine rework, and gadget changes are all good. Alongside some minor weapon tweaks and improvements to useability such as KS-23 pump rate.

Remember when cloak light db spam that can 2-shot any class in S1? Well, now we have throwing knives (nobody still uses the alt-fire post nerf only spam) and db is back to being able to 2-shot any class. I'm starting to see triple db teams in WT now. Repeat of OB and S1.

Remember when light stun gun spam giving free kills? Well, now we have the winch claw for heavy that not only stuns, but also pulls and allows them to do a survivable point blank rpg.

What happened to the "long ttk" gameplay?

The CL40 was given a damage nerf and a fire rate buff, making it one of the second lowest dps to the lowest dps weapon. The only possible reason for this is due to it's burst being too good in TA but in TTK, it's one of the slowest and will lose most duels if not careful. It counters L, mid to M, and weak to H. This change made it unable to fight heavies at all. The pump rate and fire rate would also be considered as a nerf as due to it depleting the 4 rounds quicker and spending more time instead with the long reload.

In s2 ranked, despite it being a poor pick, I still brought it to plat. It's main gimmick is despite the low dps, you need to play safely/area denial/insane movement and learn its trajectory for mid-long shots. Before the change, the fire rate, reload, and ammo was low but it was rewarding to hit direct hits. Now it barely tickles H or other M.

M feels terrible to play this season. L is buffed and M's counter is weakened.

Overall. Didn't care about TA, but if core game and balance changes are catered to it instead of the core gameplay of the game it will mess up balances for other modes. Showing more that, already built gameplay and balance isn't fit for it. Most of the patch felt like tossing out the balance work made during s1 and s2.

pliant lion
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I feel you man, I'm in the same boat. Best example I have is a match I played yesterday, I picked heavy with a flamethrower for my daily challenges and apparently EVERY enemy I was up against was a Light with Throwing knives. Literally 7 out of the 9 people in the match were Lights with Throwing knives. I can deal with one, maybe two lights at a time, but 6 of 'em? Don't get me wrong, I don't think heavy is anywhere near useless atm, but you are at a solid disadvantage if everyone else is Light.

I didn't mind the buff to throwing knives at first but atm it's clear they've overdone it. I'd say they either have to nerf the damage a bit to ~50 per hit or increase the time between the 2 knife "bursts". Having what is essentially a bottomless magazine with the knives is already such an advantage at close range. #👂┇game-feedback message

rugged fiber
viral quiver
quick coyote
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Need the fire fighter cosmetics.... 🙏

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mystic drum
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Team comp should be prioritized for ranked TA. Having a limit on how many players pick a certain class ex: 2 light, 2 medium and 1 heavy’s would balance the game tremendously. Like how OverWatch has it.
I’ve been getting into matches where it’s 4-5 lights on the other team and it is just ruining the pace of the game

marsh raptor
topaz swallow
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cant wait for tomorrows patch notes to yet again fall short on balancing the game and yet again cause another weapon/gadget to become OP instead of, oh idk, balanced

worn sigil
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I've been stuck in the start game screen loop at least twice a day! Where I can hear my teammates moving but I can't because I can't get passed the loading screen!
&
I've been quit out of the game in World Tour at least twice a day too!

How are the servers this bad?
I've been part of the lucky few that haven't experienced any problems so far since launch (day 1 player) so everything must be bad if I'm complaining about it! 🤣

nocturne flare
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See ya in 30 minutes

crystal storm
#

Heavy:

  • RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 100, full damage only on direct hit
  • Winch hook > remove from game, or rework it completely
  • Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 750 to 700
  • M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters
  • Lewis gun > clean up the recoil pattern to be less aggressive horizontally
  • Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you cant instantly kill M's, reduce cooldown. Should be more utility than 1 shot cheese.

Medium:

  • Recon senses > re-add to game - rework to be a single ping like recon nades but originating from the player. 3 charges with a pretty long recovery time
  • Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.3s so it doesnt instantly shoot if you are in its FOV
  • Defib > Remove invincibility time after getting ressed
  • FCAR > 3rd shot of recoil jumps way to hard right, reduce that horizontal recoil
  • FAMAS > Increase damage drop off range, replace the terrible ironsights with RDS or holo.
  • R.357 > increase damage drop off range and slightly lower reload time

Light:

  • Grappling hook > lower cooldown

  • Throwing Knives > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance, boost initial velocity, Lower fire rate

  • LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate

  • 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

  • DB > lower damage to 145 damage

  • V9S > Lower fire rate but increase damage (1 less shot to kill)

  • Explosive mines > damage from multi mines exploding from different sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 100

  • Cash-out should periodically give cash over time in a couple of instances (ie: 3k-5k-10k). Many high ELO games just becomes stalling for first 75% CO the time.

  • Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently, you cant balance the game for TA and CO at the same time, one will always suffer

true harness
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Considering normal game modes (like quick cash, cash out, etc.), the game feels REALLY balanced right now. Please don't rock the boat too much with future updates. Each class is in a really good place right now, with just the right amount of strengths and weaknesses.

sweet bone
stable plinth
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The classes are good ( even tho roadhog shouldnt be in this game ). Biggest problem is AT as the only ranked gm. The first and principal gm of the game is cash out, why would you remove it from ranked

obtuse ravine
# rough herald

Bro, you're assuming they care about this game.

Can't ask that much of devs who have no idea what they're doing/ dont give af about the game

rugged fiber
brisk star
#

never change rpg it's perfect

cosmic ether
#

^ this

thick sorrel
torpid elbow
#

I love vsing 3 heal beams all the goddamn time🥰

upper citrus
rough herald
arctic bramble
thick sorrel
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  • The majority would like to play a bad version of ranked cash out over to no ranked cashout at all.

  • Can you please fix finally RPG to lower damage, more spread/weapon sway, so it becomes a GADGET instead of a free kill opener with 100% pickrate?

  • Stun Rework Suggestion: Make it full stun, no actions allowed, but the player has to HOLD the Stun Gun, so he can't attack while someone is stunned. This way its a good team gagdet, but no 1v1 free kill.

@elder folio 🙏🏻

@lilac bay As M or H you're right. However in L vs L situations, the first who shoots wins usually. And the Stunner has beamed you already before you can really react.

cosmic ether
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yall act like grenades don't exist for exactly the same purpose and mines..and every other thing that deals damage

elder folio
lilac bay
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I don't really see an issue with the stun gun as is. I don't feel like I'm constantly getting stunned, and when I do get stunned it doesn't stop me from shooting.

somber hound
thorn kelp
#

I have an idea for a Gamemode that I'd feel would work perfectly for The Finals thanks to Terminal Attack

It'll be a Battlefield Rush style Gamemode featuring the Terminals from TA with part of the map slowly opening up after both Terminals have been decrypted opening up new Terminals to attack or defend

If you've played Battlefield before then I don't have to explain how Rush works

Majority of devs at Embark also associated with Dice so this would be the perfect callback to when Battlefield was good

This will be a separate gamemode from Terminal Attack and could possibly be called Terminal Rush

Lmk yalls thought abt this

fathom sparrow
quick coyote
vernal swallow
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let me choose teams for custom match, also fix lewis gun and m60, they are just unusable in this season and its ridiculous why you didn’t just change something else like reload speed or spread

steel marlin
rose snow
#

Still getting stuck on loading screens

ember island
#

Game Mode Idea: 5v5 (or 4v4) Capture The Flag/TDM styled mode where both teams fight to bring ONE vault to a Cash-Out.

To be more specific about said game mode, each team would be limited to prevent an annoying same-class team. There could be one heavy, two mediums, and two lights, or however the team would like to set up their play style, but only a limit of two L, H, or M classes per side.

Each team fights for a single vault placed in the middle of the map or at some point along the center axis. If one team successfully puts the vault in the cash out now, it becomes a TA of defense and attack.

If the team successfully cashes out, they are granted $10k. If the team is prevented from cashing out, they only receive the amount they collected from the time the vault was inside to the time it was stolen or deactivated.

The first team to reach $15k or $20k wins. Just like in a ranked match, the team that was wiped loses money, but it is less punishable, so up to -20% of the cash would be subtracted from the current amount.

The game mode would be called “Capture Cash” or “Capture the Vault” (the name is not final). It could possibly be a ranked game mode.

(Note: Just an idea. There may be a ton of loopholes).

regal salmon
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RPG is completely fine.

Heavy is a close range class now they've nerfed the Lewis and M40 into the ground. So it works as the one reliable long-range option the class has. And even then, it has one shot and a cooldown.

Ooh, it splash damages people? So does a grenade, which is the closest analog.

Ooh, it's unfair heavy gets a super-grenade? So what? Medium can deploy jump pads and revive people, and Light can stun and glitch people. All are equally as powerful class-specific gadgets that are just as close to 1:1 picks too.

Every class has imbalanced gadgets to mitigate their weaknesses, and people heavily pick them as a result.

The RPG (like the Winch) is a one-time emergency punish for people who try to kite the class, for which it'd otherwise have no answer. It serves a really important place in keeping the meta honest.

It's fine. Get the fuck over it.

earnest sierra
#

i really hate this community it's the only thing that are making this game worse

hardy bridge
thorn kelp
violet elbow
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@pearl kiln can we PLEASE get a fix to the visual recoil of the V9S? it just doesnt make sense to me that this is what I have to look at if I wanna hit headshots with this gun, the M11 and XP allow for headshot chains very easily and the V9S (a single shot gun that should support better aim) straight up blocks any kind of consistent aiming with its own model.

plush quest
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why are we still dont have zoom out feature in the style tab ? i hate that i have to go to body or hands to reset the zoom @pearl kiln

real shoal
#

Damn, the game isn't the same as it used to be. The TA mode for ranked has really destroyed the only good thing about the game. What made The Finals special was the Cash Out mode. Now that the main ranked mode is TA, it's just not good—5/10.

Another issue is that, starting with Season 3, we only got one new map and a few new weapons and gates. It would have been nice to have more weapons. Lastly, the team really went overboard with the nerfing of the light class, especially when playing ranked. Playing as the light class now feels like playing with glass.

Overall, it could have been a lot better. I hope in the next few updates we get Cash Out back as the main ranked mode instead of TA.

keen tartan
#

Leaving matches needs a harsher penalty. So many people leaving matches

magic orchid
vernal swallow
#

Things everyone can agree on,

  1. There needs to be a major amount of time spent on balancing right now, the balancing is just insane and instead of nerfing literally every weapon how about you start buffing other weapons?

  2. We definitely need a parkour update/revamp, this game should feel fast paced especially with light class and yet usually you just get stuck on every other thing by an inch, things like some wall running and vault bouncing (when you vault on something after falling down on something and instead of playing the slow animation it is much faster) and just more ways to get momentum

  3. The only real updates are really just seasons starting or the mid season update, I feel like throughout the season you should at least be adding more map variations, or revamping game events because let’s be honest, the main 2 that actually affect the game are low grav and meteor and one of those is like a 2% chance (also add a flood event that would be fun)

  4. Everyone would 100% love an update for game immersion, we need double the lines for announcers (including the backround dude) we want the crowds to chant more things, for them to actually count down on time, and to cheer and boo at team wipes and cashouts

  5. It needs to be fun, remember that this is supposed to be a game, if a game mechanic has no purpose other than being annoying because of realism or something, remove it, seriously because there is a lot of unfun game mechanics (like no barricade clutching, and also it needs to be pinpoint accurate and on the ground to work) that just have no purpose, and really add more goofy things that you wouldn’t expect, like fling someone by winch clawing the ground below them, or use furniture stuck in goo as a makeshift barricade to reinforce the wall, and if you spam crouch over someone you just killed you instantly explode with -999999999 damage 🥰🥰

cerulean shale
clever hawk
#

Winch Claw feels amazing to use - so please don’t gut it - but can feel terrible to play against because it can so easily become an inevitable and inescapable death, especially for L/M classes.

WC should not be a free effective oneshot, like old Roadhog. It should be a displacement tool - for players and objects - that aids CQB but doesn’t grant it excessive power.

The best way to nerf its effectiveness against players without harming its object utility would be to prevent it from pulling players any closer than, say, 6m. This would give winched players the space and opportunity to more effectively fight back or flee without instantly suffering extreme damage.

It would remove the KS + Melee oneshot combo, the easy and extreme SA12 bursting, and the often inescapable melee death. All of which are the most oppressive and frustrating elements for opposing players.

The commonly suggested nerf of reducing its maximum range would not address these oppressive aspects and would hurt its utility when it comes to objects such as cashouts, revive totems, etc.

It would also still allow Mesh Shield to be of some use to the winched player given some distance would be maintained between the two players, as opposed to the current iteration which is simply a hard counter.

severe geyser
#

ya'll make the anti-cheat system better? what a joke...

even reporting takes so long for the cheater to get banned.

this game so many holes...

lilac bay
crisp oxide
#

NERFKL THE FREAKING WENCH OMG

rapid stream
rugged fiber
upper citrus
# regal salmon RPG is completely fine. Heavy is a close range class now they've nerfed the Lew...

yeah, no. RPG is the worst designed thing in the entire game. the only thing worse was dead go boom. and recon senses

There is 0 natural counterplay, if a heavy sees you with his rpg out and he isn't dogshit, he will hit that rpg and you will take shitloads of damage. Grenades are fine because you can see them on the floor and move away from them, that is natural counterplay. It's also impact splash damage which means it directly discourages playing with your team. in a team based game. this is fine for something like the cl-40 because its a primary weapon, your playstyle is locked into using it. rpg is a gadget you can throw out and then switch back. It is not "fine" lol

ember crag
soft flame
quick coyote
sleek flame
#

fix the sonar bug
fix the sonar bug
fix the sonar bug

tawdry tree
hallow spruce
drifting gorge
#

Yo bunny from The First Descendant is typing

earnest sierra
#

People here just keep saying

FIX THIS FIX THAT FK THE DEVS GAME IS DEAD TA IS BAD FML FK EVERYONE

and keep acting like genius assholes that knows everything in game industry and there word is order that the devs should obey it and with magical switches they gonna fix everything and change the whole game according to everyone and maybe make several editions for everyone one liking

at least if you have some fucking bug in the game have a video of how it happened and explain what it is, but no everyone is like FK YOU DEVS FIX THE MYSTERY BUG THAT I WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT AND IF YOU DIDN'T FIX IT GAME IS DEAD, and keep spaming the same damn message over and over

this community is really the only thing that is keeping this game behind in player base and making this game dead as people say, if this game failed yall really deserves games like overwatch 2 and re-released dead COD games and BF and suck it and yall will be happy you know why?? BECAUSE ACTIVISION NOR EA OR DICE CARE ABOUT WHAT ANY MF SAYING ABOUT THEIR GAME

and yall will be happy like sheeps lmao, keep it pathetic community.

upper citrus
obsidian solar
#

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
  • Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
  • Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
  • Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
  • Remove the fov zoom in and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.
  • Pyro grenades "stick" to the shield and burn the player forever, making it also impossible to see

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

  • Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

  • Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam
clever hawk
manic prairie
#

how bad you have to be in your work if it takes weeks and weeks to fix broke ass game....im done this is ridicilous

molten trail
raven topaz
#

i get a lot of messages confirming that my report (cheaters) resulted in a ban but i still lost 800-1,4k RS and wasted my time, a thx is all i get

sleek flame
#

Oh look here is a channel with all the documented bugs within the game people are complaining about and the devs are aware of. https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1201841543926005810

Instead of trying to get brownie points by chastising people and sucking yourself off, look into the glaring issues this game has THATS BEEN A ISSUE FOR MONTHS.

crisp oxide
#

FTL OF GOD FIX THE WENCH. BRING BACK RANKED CASH OUT I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR REMOVING IT FROM RANKED. EVER NEVER!

wheat aspen
hallow spruce
weary falcon
#

4/10 games I get the healing beam bug where it doesn’t shoot out. Been this way since season 0 I believe

End of 2nd season start of 3rd I notice I’m all loading into games but it’s stuck on the map loading screen

(This is all happening on ps5)

iron bough
#

Your game just crashed while I was playing World Tour, it's already happened 3 times, and I've been penalized, IT'S YOUR DAMN FAULT, NOT MINE!!!

stuck sentinel
lilac epoch
#

I enjoy how creative world tour is and the map rotations :)

urban marsh
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The game stoped been fun when melee does more dmg than weapons, tho is called fps, heavy is one tap as always, you can t do smthing against it, can t fight back , TA rank is unbalanced and not fare at all, just lights with sniper or invisible, world tour doesn’t feel so much rewarding when wining, This is my impression for this season, i used to love playing revolver on medium, but now not so much, so much work to use it when lights get away with 1hp and i m dead against throwing knives with no aim, no reload just spam, I don’t know if is just me or smthing.

olive vector
#

Plleeeeaaase put Turrets back to how they used to be!!!

restive crescent
#

add a menu fps limiter, why i would want my menu to go at 165 fps, not to mention the gpu usage on menu is higher than in game.

quick coyote
#

Please fix the bug where I get stuck in the loading screen while the match is running in the background. I dont wanna be the bad guy and leave the team.

junior knoll
#

I'd like to have separate controls for the spectator camera. I use auto sprint, so I have crouch on shift but when spectating I want to have the traditional controls of run -> shift and crouch -> ctrl.

slate magnet
#

please add custom cosmetic presets. Making outfits is honestly like half of the fun for me when playing this game and it kills me when i have to delete one that I worked really hard on because there's only six slots to save them. keep up the good work tho fr, love this game

gentle narwhal
#

why doesn't this game have pre-set outfit slots yet?
why would i buy more cosmetics if i only have a limit of 6 outfits?

winter sparrow
#

I was on a lobby afk with my friend in a gama and I get timed for an 1h 30m like bro fix ur game 1h 30m to play ta like bro

iron bough
#

I've never had a crash before, but this world tour is a pain, I won't touch that "TRASH" until you fix your game or remove your matchmaking restrictions if the game detects a crash.

latent jasper
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Time to get a grip on the cheaters, im unsure as to why there are soooo many in the higher ranks? How can they play long enough? Every 3rd ruby lobby in EU is with or against a cheater. And thats only the obv ones, would be more if you count the sketchy ones. Simply give me back my elo ones they are banned. I get "Thanks for reporting" every day on launch and im down 10k elo to actual rage hacks atleast

hidden quartz
#

Please bring back restriction to world tour, every game i get 2 guys lvl 1 that do nothing and quit

unique rain
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Please deal with cheaters my premade is on a tweaking spree. Its getting out of control, its like hes got some kind of palsy.

tired bronze
#

HELP

i have an problem everytime i start up the game my pc just shuts down? this wasnt happening when i was playing yesterday.

has anyone had this problem befor or know how to fix it?

rigid shale
#

MEANINGFUL LEAVER PENALTIES

delicate marlin
astral trail
#

I have no problems in what people's voices sound like. But when someone has a "trashy microphone", speaks in really bad grammar and slang speech. Then how could I understand their call outs? I don't think the Devs can fix this issue easily; as it a a social issue with some players that do not understand this. As competitive gaming requires a bit of universal communication.

pseudo light
mint jacinth
wraith orchid
#

pls rework the lvl 8 skimn

slate magnet
eager lagoon
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Make ranked Terminal Attack best of 3-4. Nobody wants to be stuck in a single ranked match for 30 minutes. If you are getting crushed, or lose a teammate it's miserable. Mid season update please.

crystal willow
#

+1 Damage on Revolver. Please? These 2 health Lights are driving be crazy...

stuck sentinel
clear hemlock
sullen wolf
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My feedback is remove TA from ranked

night glen
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These DEVS should really think about damage per second..... Mele damage on a quick moving and hard to hit target should not be able to kill so fast. Just food for thought.

jagged cedar
crystal storm
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Heavy:

  • RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 100, full damage only on direct hit
  • Winch hook > remove from game, or rework it completely
  • Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 750 to 700
  • M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters
  • Lewis gun > clean up the recoil pattern to be less aggressive horizontally
  • Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you cant instantly kill M's, reduce cooldown. Should be more utility than 1 shot cheese.

Medium:

  • Recon senses > re-add to game - rework to be a single ping like recon nades but originating from the player. 3 charges with a pretty long recovery time
  • Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.3s so it doesnt instantly shoot if you are in its FOV
  • Defib > Remove invincibility time after getting ressed
  • FCAR > 3rd shot of recoil jumps way to hard right, reduce that horizontal recoil
  • FAMAS > Increase damage drop off range, replace the terrible ironsights with RDS or holo.
  • R.357 > increase damage drop off range and slightly lower reload time

Light:

  • Grappling hook > lower cooldown

  • Throwing Knives > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance, boost initial velocity, Lower fire rate

  • LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate

  • 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

  • DB > lower damage to 145 damage

  • V9S > Lower fire rate but increase damage (1 less shot to kill)

  • Explosive mines > damage from multi mines exploding from different sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 100

  • Cash-out should periodically give cash over time in a couple of instances (ie: 3k-5k-10k). Many high ELO games just becomes stalling for first 75% CO the time.

  • Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently, you cant balance the game for TA and CO at the same time, one will always suffer

marble ledge
#

Ain’t nobody readin allat

eager lagoon
# sullen wolf My feedback is remove TA from ranked

They can't do that mid season obviously. I am sure it will be back to cashout next season. What they can do is updates to make terminal attack less terrible by reducing the amount of rounds by half, limiting how many of each class can be on one team, etc. @night glen The faster and harder you are to hit the more damage you should take from melee. Skill issue if you are using dash and being hit by hammer for example.

dusty estuary
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If the different health pools are designed to help balance classes, then why is there a flat 100 hp recovery for all classes in TA? Lights recover 67% of their health. Mediums recover 40%. Heavies recover 29%. If you are not going to add healing beam into TA (because it is an anti team play game mode) then at least make the recoverable health a % hp increase. The game mode is actual ass tho and not sure it is worth even trying to save.

eternal wigeon
# night glen These DEVS should really think about damage per second..... Mele damage on a qui...

Um, yes it should. Melees have to take the most risk in the game to fight someone, they can't stick behind cover and shoot someone from far away, they have to be in the enemy's face to even be able to do damage. Plus, this means that they receive full damage without any falloff while they try to smack you with their weapon. If they fail to keep up while chasing you down they're done for. (Unless it's the sword, that thing's just annoying to fight)

tribal spoke
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With the new patch approaching, Id ask the devs to consider fixing and buffing the dual blades, their fun, but weak, Im sure the data supports that

young smelt
#

RS system blows

pseudo latch
#

Day 112 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

Patch Day's Eve! whats everyone hopeful for?

deep summit
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  • Terminal Attack ranked system doesn't work without Skill Based Match Making, you will get griefed by smurfs. Higher RS will queue with low RS smurfs so they will have small loss and big win. It is also unfair for new players to go up against diamonds/top 500
  • If I solo queue I shouldn't go up against a 3,4 or 5 stack premade teams, it should only be other solo queue players
  • Add regular ranked
  • Better Anti Cheat (DMA Bypasses Easy Anti - Cheat, that's why you have a cheater epidemic)
  • Balance
  • A lot of unranked players are cheaters, they ruin ranked for everyone else and once they get banned they make a new account,** Better Anti Cheat or IP Ban is the only solution **
  • Play Test your game, none of these issues would be present if you did play testing (You can die off spawn in Terminal Attack)
  • The Cheaters who try hide it have the fastest time to kill, that's a dead giveaway

The Finals devs are the most incompetent dev team I've ever seen( I say incompetent because they know the issues but they don't care), it's so obvious the issues of the game some playtesting will reveal it, but they don't play test. If the devs tried playing ranked they would fix it, but they don't

somber sleet
#

In my last ta ranked game for rank Teams looked like that My team: 1 gold 1 silver 1 bronze 2 unranked Enemy team: 4 golds 1 silver. THX embark ❤️

lavish shard
#

NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE

thorn kelp
lime lichen
#

HOLY FUCK ACTUALLY DO SOME BALANCE CHANGES

burnt notch
# urban marsh The game stoped been fun when melee does more dmg than weapons, tho is called fp...

No melee is able to out DPS any gun no matter what, and in most cases that wont even matter since all u have to do against a melee guy is stand back while u shoot. very simple counter

also, heavy is not able to be one tapped. while there are ways to kill heavys very quickly (such as the double barrel and dagger, which kills heavies in about 1 sec when paired with a melee), most strategies/loadouts are inconsistent damage-wise if not mastered, which is the case with most people, so if you arent able to counter them within that MINIMUM of 2 seconds, its a skill issue im afraid.

i agree with ur other statements that the game isnt as rewarding without cashout ranked, but dont be spreading lies that heavy is in any way "too weak" or "too hard to survive with", thats the light's job.

@frosty ingot u prob have streamer mode enabled, check ur settings to turn it off

tardy orchid
#

God please fix your game Embark. The servers are so unstable. Stop with the cosmetics for a bit. Chill out. Just fix the actual game.

frosty ingot
#

Why does it still say Contestant for everyone

edgy urchin
digital shoal
#

Embark. I just want to say I think your game is well balanced. Thank you.

crisp oxide
#

nerf the wench nerf the throwin knives bring back ranked cashout

quick coyote
young smelt
deep summit
#
  • Terminal Attack ranked system doesn't work without Skill Based Match Making, you will get griefed by smurfs. Higher RS will queue with low RS smurfs so they will have small loss and big win. It is also unfair for new players to go up against diamonds/top 500
  • If I solo queue I shouldn't go up against a 3,4 or 5 stack premade teams, it should only be other solo queue players
  • Add Kill Cams, makes it easier to discern if the player is using walls or aimbot
  • Add regular ranked
  • Better Anti Cheat (DMA Bypasses Easy Anti - Cheat, that's why you have a cheater epidemic)
  • Balance
  • A lot of unranked players are cheaters, they ruin ranked for everyone else and once they get banned they make a new account,** Better Anti Cheat or IP Ban is the only solution **
  • Play Test your game, none of these issues would be present if you did play testing (You can die off spawn in Terminal Attack)
  • The Cheaters who try hide it have the fastest time to kill, that's a dead giveaway

The Finals devs are the most incompetent dev team I've ever seen(I say incompetent because they know the issues but they don't care), it's so obvious the issues of the game some playtesting will reveal it, but they don't play test. If the devs tried playing ranked they would fix it, but they don't

thorn kelp
storm siren
#

Omg nerf it all uh

eternal wigeon
mystic pawn
#

Coming back to this game being a melee meta is such a let down… this game had so much potential

tidal wave
#

love ranked TA its the best gamemode ever

warm mauve
lethal granite
#

yo can you guys f o l l ow my t w i t c h account nolanxgames it would mean alot

rugged temple
tame crag
# thorn kelp How do yall want Winch nerfed I keep seeing nerf this and nerf that without a g...

I think its ability to bring in players should be reduced, it’s incredibly frustrating to be winched in as a light and be doomed regardless of what I do, since they can combo any weapon into it for easy kills.

I.e. winch->quick melee->sledgehammer. If you don’t have dashes or a grapple you died because you were within 20m of a heavy with an ability on a 6/12 second cooldown.

I think its ability to manipulate the environment should be buffed, as in being able to remove chunks of a wall just by hitting it, increase the range for non-enemy claws.

spice flax
#

What in tf determines how much I gain or lose in a terminal attk? I went 11-5 winning 7-3 and got 900. I went 6-7 and lost 4-7 and lost 1,200. Make that make sense? Because that doesn't seem fair at all.

quick coyote
#

I cannot wait to see what big nothingness Embark has in store for tomorrow. I cannot wait for them to show they have no idea or interest in continuing to develop this game.

astral viper
#

Sniper bodyshot damage is too strong. It's too easy for a Light to lock down the entire cart in Powershift while sitting on the other side of the map. I'm bored of having to drop what I'm doing to switch to a sniper hunter loadout every match and my goal turns entirely into griefing their sniper until he picks another loadout.

deep summit
#
  • Make this a Thread Channel with 1 post per player = no flooding Yayy common sense
  • Terminal Attack ranked system doesn't work without Skill Based Match Making, you will get griefed by smurfs. Higher RS will queue with low RS smurfs so they will have small loss and big win. It is also unfair for new players to go up against diamonds/top 500
  • If I solo queue I shouldn't go up against a 3,4 or 5 stack premade teams, it should only be other solo queue players
  • Add Kill Cams, makes it easier to discern if the player is using walls or aimbot
  • Add regular ranked
  • Better Anti Cheat (DMA Bypasses Easy Anti - Cheat, that's why you have a cheater epidemic)
  • Balance
  • A lot of unranked players are cheaters, they ruin ranked for everyone else and once they get banned they make a new account,** Better Anti Cheat or IP Ban is the only solution **
  • Play Test your game, none of these issues would be present if you did play testing (You can die off spawn in Terminal Attack)
  • The Cheaters who try hide it have the fastest time to kill, that's a dead giveaway

The Finals devs are the most incompetent dev team I've ever seen(I say incompetent because they know the issues but they don't care), it's so obvious the issues of the game some playtesting will reveal it, but they don't play test. If the devs tried playing ranked they would fix it, but they don't

crisp oxide
ivory junco
#

Text chat in team menu needed
Also steam acc link in game would be great for adding teams and cheat checking (new acc)

solemn light
# astral viper Sniper bodyshot damage is too strong. It's too easy for a Light to lock down the...

If the sniper you are going against is trash, then your point is valid. If the sniper is actually good, it does not matter if you swap to sniper to try to counter them. Ive done it myself against people like you and beat them. The sniper is good where its at. If you gonna nerf the damage, then increase the magazine size and the rate of fire. Also, the bow also one shots in the head at lights and i dont see complaints here. The only 'good'nerf to the sniper would be to add bullet drop

thorn kelp
lone wyvern
#

i would love if we could get the old ranked back

thick stump
#

THIS NEW RANK IS BAD TA RANKED IS BAD

storm veldt
#

we need the old ranked back

valid sierra
#

new ranked is terrible

wise cliff
#

The most glaring issues that keep The Finals away from growing are:

  • People's feelings on Cashout (they think it's unfair and rng based)
  • Lack of content
  • Disappointing New Player Experience
  • Game breaking bugs and the game just not being able to launch on many systems (despite being high-end)
  • Lack of direction from Embark (they obviously don't know where they want to take the game)
  • Lack of truly casual modes
  • Lackluster marketing
  • Barebones private match maker
  • Frustrating game balance
  • Cheaters
  • Lack of identity (Little to no recognizable characters, little to no knowledge about the world or lore in the game, no emotional attachment to anything in the game)
  • Lack of tools for content creation
drowsy storm
#

give medium an smg

drowsy python
#

please lower the amount of rounds in ranked for godsake PLEASEEEEE

storm siren
#

with the major let down of season 3 this game has completely lost my interest, used to enjoy playing in season 1 and 2 it was fun and exciting now its not.

crisp oxide
distant sluice
#

TL;DR: Create a rep score to prevent frequently leaving games
yall gotta make some sort of punishment or rep score for leaving games so often. I dont think ive played a game in months that didnt have someone leave cause they got butthurt that they died or lost site.

Most games a team will lose a cashout, one will leave, then the rest will leave. I have played many games, often every day, where both teams completely leave the game. Then other people join an empty team and leave too.

I appreciated the lax treatment towards being able to leave a game if something irl came up, but this system is getting way too abused. It is very demotivating and annoying to play a game without a full team, and it is also not very fun to play against teams that are not full.

I understand this really only applies to casual, but it is WAY too common now. There needs to be some sort of reputation score that punishes players for frequently leaving games. Very often it is also the lights that leave the game, and they already lose most of their games so making the game a loss for them is not even close to enough to discourage this problem.

I know damn well that half of these people leaving games are getting mad that they cant 1v6 and win and continually leave games until they get to play against bots. This game is about teamplay, not leaving the game because the enemy team didn't like that you sniped them nonstop.

Nearly every game I join in solo queue is filling someone elses spot. Often I join a game on the losing side, no surprise. This is going to further ruin the casual experience.

remote citrus
#

Please remove the contracts.
Every game mode has players who don't even attempt the objectives because the contracts. They ruin the experience

delicate yoke
#

Fix or replace the spear's right click it's janky as hell. You could be right next to someone and still deal zero damage. Not to mention the fact you can't cancel it. You're a sitting duck if a light has a single dash charge when you activate it. I mean c'mon give us a reason to use it.

cosmic ether
#

I think spear right click only exists solely for the purpose of comedic value :^)

ivory quail
#

Snipers are a massive problem in TA. You cannot outplay it unless you have a sniper of your own. and they get free value just from getting picked. even if you dont kill anyone with them, simply getting the free damage off is enough to sway an entire round. They're even good at close range because the unscoped accuracy is still insane. Please look into it.

nova osprey
#

Day something, I don’t know what, of suggesting a potato launcher or t-shirt canon skin for the CL40

woven blade
#

When’s the Japanese straw hat coming to the store? Don’t you want my money?

fervent citrus
lavish shard
#

3 weeks in row whitout balance update i hope dev wake up tomorow

solemn light
wise cliff
nova osprey
#

Guys tell me this wouldn’t go fucking hard as a skin, mix that with a new gun, duel pistols, and an emote that has you twirl around with the guns out, and I think that shit would be fire

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warm mauve
#

Once again, getting tired of sledge swings going right through character models. For the love of god fix this now.

sand ridge
#

Praying for a brave contestant who will takes out the dev who decided ranked TA was smart 🙏

quick coyote
#

Scoping as a sniper needs to remove cloak just like any action.

thorn kelp
#

Ngl, I think the Winch should stun you when you get hit with the claw, but as it's reeling you in, you should be able to shoot back

Thoughts?

river hill
twin carbon
#

So Uhh season four ranked Orf backpack? orf_happy

hard ice
#

there's a corner in the sand on las vegas sandstorm between heywood and the destroyed building that can just eat props, trophies, vaults, etc

eager ivy
#

in my opinion light feels way too good but to help out the other classes their dps on weapons need a buff i can run around and kill heavies and mediums with mp5 way too fast and they start shooting me first makes no sense also i think instead of everyone healing to 100 health in TA medium should heal to 150 and heavy to 200 that would make other classes fit in more in TA cuz the light meta takes no skill to play light anymore against those classes its way too easy to play light now

clear crystal
#

give us the ability to view all our match history information after the fact. the ingame statistics page is very lacking. heck even just let me see the last 50 matches played if it uses up too much data to store all the match history

quick coyote
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still a genuinely god awful season, i haven't played in a while & just hopped on today. 2 games in on powershift already experienced a steam roll, getting killed by a million lights (who are usually toxic like teabagging etc). i literally just got put in as a backfill and this just happened. nerf the goddamn lights and fix this season as a whole. what happened to the game i loved? no wonder yall keep losing players and it makes sense

warm herald
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Please fix your spawns. I am so tired of stomping out a two teams to just have a third team spawn on top of us.

fast flare
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Dont balance the game around TA when you say you say you are going to balance the game around Cashouts/Ranked Cashouts
Keep to your Word 👍
(In TA, light is strong, in Meta Ranked Cashout/Cashout tournaments, Light is far worse than the other classes.)

Or just communicate with your dedicated fans more. maybe have separate game-feedback channels for the higher roles, or some further way to communicate with the audience in general
I understand its important to listen to a range of your audience, but a lot of this channel is just complaining, and not very feedback oriented

obtuse ravine
spiral zephyr
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Sometimes the healing beam will not work the entire match, please look into this. Its happened to me like 15 times

woven parrot
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Anybody know if the devs have any intention to upgrade fsr to version 3.1?

quick coyote
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I can play 1 game now before the game is memory leaking to shit this issue needs to me fixed before anything else, this was not an issue a few patches ago I could play for hours with 0 issues

glacial sierra
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it would be cool to have a wide-view of the whole map after a round is done, to see what sort of destruction has gone on throughout a round.

quick coyote
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This is such a bad gaming experience at this point. Please, please for the love of god put in real SBMM and stop with this bullshit winrate control. You're not a big enough studio to pull these manipulative tactics and get away with it. Just make a good fucking game. You can't start a studio as "industry standard" and make it anywhere because there are better, longer standards already. Make something fun and good and people will play for hours. Stop making intentionally difficult to rank up by putting you with bad teammates teh better you do, and putting you up against better players. You've fucked up so much every step of the way, and people flat out do not trust you at all. In bed wih nexon and pulling all the same lip service bullshit.

STOP MAKING FREE GAMES.

strong dust
fair osprey
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Buff the 93R, please.

The 93R changes that came with this season were, in my eyes, f*cking stupid. The 93R's only pro it ever had was that it was good ONLY when dealing with headshots. That sort of thing is limited to a much smaller player group, and the fact that anyone barely sees the 93R, if at all, proves this. So reducing the burst rate while decreasing recoil, sorry, is still a NERF. The DPS was nerfed, which means that no matter how you tried to explain it, you NERFED what was considered the worst gun for Light.

So, instead, significantly increase the rate of fire again and increase damage. Range and recoil may be nerfed to compensate. A fair change and an actual proper buff.

Please and thanks.

teal bear
quick coyote
# strong dust git gud

Wow BRILLIANT feedback. Honestly, so much detail and info. The devs should really listen to your feedback. Wow chefs kiss. You must be a game developer with that feedback.

quick coyote
undone sapphire
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I... know this is a minor issue, but when it comes to fashion, could you add more masks like the Butcher mask where it can be worn with helmets (like the straw hat that came with the season)? I would love to rock more helmets/mask combinations, but beyond the Samurai's mask and the aforementioned Butcher Mask, there isn't really a whole lot of options out there

thorn kelp
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Tell that to the yolks who want Winch Claw nerfed

bitter girder
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getting instantly punished because my game crashed sucks fix your game

hearty bough
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Honestly I feel like I would actually play TA if it just had full hp regen. Using movement to escape a bad situation and recover is a core part of The Finals gameplay loop, and in TA it is completely non-existent

strong dust
quick coyote
slate mauve
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Data Reshaper should be a nade.

grim patrol
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idea for medium shotgun, a slug pump action like the ks23 but less damage obviously, left click is a normal shot, right click isn't ads or brace, but instead prepares you for slam firing, allowing for essentially rapid fire with heavy left/right recoil instead of vertical

feral shell
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I'm uninstalling this game if tomorrow's update isn't a fucking banger

drifting pawn
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Dear CNS, plz unhack this shit terminal mode out of the game. take it back. we dont want it. thx. -The Community

daring fossil
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dude, I just knocked down the crane on the construction variant of seoul and the whole server lagged out multiple times

hybrid dock
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Are you guys being genuinely fucking serious with the ranking system? I mean who came up with the idea to make losses drop you 1000 rs at minimum????? Like seriously TA has already ruined the game and now I’m supposed to what not lose matches? What an absolute joke of a competitive game structure

upper citrus
eager ivy
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light do be way too good in TA instead of nerfing light in TA make it where mediums can heal to 150 and heavy to 200 seems fair

shell heron
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Seeing so much discourse and polarization in opinions on lights it’s difficult to even understand what the issue is, mainly from both sides

calm sentinel
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decent

rugged temple
iron berry
quick coyote
rose nacelle
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Please fix the loading screen bug

tall wave
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let us spray our tags on the cashout

regal salmon
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We need to be able to fully customise emote wheels.

As it stands, there's no easy way to quickly access sprays or mini emotes, or sounds other than your main one, making them all severely underused.

I don't see why the emote wheel can't just be be a 6-way, fully-customisable wheel, where you can add whatever you want.

Feels like a very easy fix, and from a business standpoint you'll actually sell a lot more sprays, sounds and mini emotes if people can actually use the damn things conveniently, instead of standing still while they navigate a bunch of sub menus.

nova osprey
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I’m back, same thing, can we please just have a 22nd century Antarctica map, that sounds really cool

clever hawk
# shell heron Seeing so much discourse and polarization in opinions on lights it’s difficult t...

Light doesn’t have enough health/the global damage levels of the game are excessive. You will die in the blink of an eye to a myriad of things, including regular gunfire.

This means:

  1. In high-level coordinated teamplay (Cashout) Light is shut down far too easily and is thus largely redundant.

  2. To be viable, Light needs extreme burst damage, exceeding the already excessive global damage levels. This leads to utter domination of uncoordinated and more casual modes.

It’s not fun to be insta-gibbed as Light and it’s not fun to be insta-gibbed by Light. Increasing survivability/reducing global damage levels would relax Light’s dependency upon extreme burst damage, solving both issues.

jagged cedar
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huge shoutout to embark for adding a completely new type of melee no reg after a failed attempt at patching a different no reg

proven parcel
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Can’t wait to wake up in a few hours for my weekly disappointment from embark 🤩

upper citrus
quick coyote
daring siren
# quick coyote "The only bad change was to what 90% of the playerbase plays". Also worst serve...

90% of the playerbase doesn't even touch ranked, even in the past seasons. For good reasons too. TA being the ranked mode pisses off an even less amount of people compared to that, because there is a schism in that already small amount between people who might see TA as a better format compared to cashout and people who disagree.

So yes, ranked being a bust is business as usual for the majority of players. Its cope to say most people care.

That is not to say whether or not its the right decision, that's just to correct your bullshit. Your server issues point is moot, because it fluctuates, and its been doing that since the start of the game. That's not an issue of this season exclusively. Address it correctly as an issue, and don't use it to hate something that obviously didn't create it.

This season is really great, in spite of the one thing that created controversy in a group that is a minority at best. Its more of the finals, and yes, ranked being this way may suck for a bunch of people, but its not like they can't do cashout or not play the game. The only people who can't are the ultra sweaty players who only play ranked and nothing else, and thats assuming they all share the same opinion of TA being bad for ranked.

The game is fun. Ranked or not.

delicate marlin
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It would be cool if on the final round you could choose your spawn

viral quiver
paper hornet
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im playing and i just have the most horrible gaming experience ever i posted on reddit and i am now posting on here i just wanted to play a fun game on stream and i just get bullied, harrased, antagonised all game and then a person decided to join the fun and kill me every round just to make my life horrible and then proceed to throw and make fun of me and call me horrible at the game and then just call me names till i dc. i dont want to stop playing this game but this gotta stop. streaming as a beginner and playing a game you love just to have others rip that down is sad. msg me if you want the videos and view it on the finals reddit under the_analyst. i need people that just arent like this

earnest sierra
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will keep saying it

this community will be the worst fps game community i ever be a part of

@paper hornet will how is this embark or the devs issue? there's something called reporting embark isn't gonna come under your shoe and be like how we may serve you king?? fkn wake up dude every damn game have fkn trollers and people who ruin everything but not in every single game you will play that's the most normal shit in the whole gaming thing

YALL ACTING LIKE WE LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD AND IT'S THE DEVS PROBLEM THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE PLAYERS

slate magnet
hazy shore
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taking bets, another update without nerfing throwing knives @upper citrus oh bless your heart. you are always in here defending throwing knives because its the only weapon you can get kills on. sit, boy

hybrid dock
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What an impressive shit stack of a game mode terminal attack is. Seriously need to terminate whoever’s idea it was to make this the default game mode for ranked. And while we’re I. The subject the ranking system is completely bugged. No rs for top performance games and loss of thousands for others

gritty umbra
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i cant do terminal anymore. i tries to give it a honest try but that shit fucking sucks dude no holds bar.

jagged cedar
thick sorrel
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  • The majority would like to play a bad version of ranked cash out over to no ranked cashout at all.

  • Can you please fix finally RPG to lower damage and more spread/weapon sway (at least when hip fire), so it becomes a GADGET instead of a free kill opener with 100% pickrate?

  • Stun Rework Suggestion: Make it full stun, no actions allowed, but the player has to HOLD the Stun Gun, so he can't attack while someone is stunned. This way it's a good team gagdet, but no 1v1 free kill.

marsh raptor
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Just thought of an Event to suggest
: 'Cloudy with a chance of Goo"

A rain of a randomly selected canister. Except they minature version for each type so its like a rain of mini cans . Like the mini goo for example could be just a single good blob. The fire and gas a much smaller area, and shorter duration of effect. Glitch having a greatly reduced aoe diameter.

What do you all think?

( Edit ) : No reds lol ... the extra damage would be dumb ngl, plus we already have meteors.

upper citrus
undone harness
plush fjord
fair osprey
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This game is in serious need of skill based matchmaking for Quickplay/world tour matches
Just a tiny bit to separate the noobs and the pros from each other, because all the newer and lesser skilled players are leaving because everyone else is too good, so it's just unfair

delicate marlin
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Its probably too late to change the names of guns already in the game but if you cant use real weapon names because of copyright be like fortnite and call weapons "auto shotgun" or "burst assault rifle"> people say shit like ah yes the jdklasjdlsakdj985840 gun and I have no idea what they are talking about

quick coyote
crystal umbra
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✨FREE IDEA: "Company System"✨ Day 28

"Hey bro, do you wanna join our company?"

Encourage us to play and make friends. I'm talking about make The Finals about team play (Way too much solo culture in ranked)

They need to make a "squad" system next season.
For obvious reasons I believe this idea will lead to a exponential engagement effect, let me explain:

"Squads" or "Companies" should be able to select or vote for sponsors:
-Vaiiya
-Volpe
-Engimo
-Ospuze
Etc.

During the season we should be able to grind for "fame" so we can get company drip (cosmetics) for completing these "company contracts".
(Gives me reason to hop back on the game, me and my friends are working towards a goal now. +++ Add Bonus Points for playing with company mates)

This may take the place of circuits but I think my ideas fits the theme of the game-show AND this gives people a reason to play with friends and implore their friends to hop on The Finals with them.

Create specialized cosmetics for these sponsors. Once your company selects one they are locked in for specialized one-time cosmetics.

This creates urgency AND rarity since -for example- the season 4 OSPUZE set will never show up again. (Same for Engimo, Vaiiya, etc.)
Remember, ONLY AVAILABLE FOR ONE SEASON

Top companies (companies with the most "fame" or money cashed out) are showed on the World Tour leaderboard.
There they should be able to display or link their Twitch and other socials.

✨((MAKE YOUR CONTESTANTS STARS))✨
Appeal to human nature and give us something to talk about amongst ourselves. Give us something to brag about.
"Oh shxt, that's Ottr from 'x' Company".

In real life athletes have sponsor drip, well in The Finals - The world's greatest game-show - it's no different.

We get to flex our specialized drop from our favorite sponsors (opportunity to expand the lore)
And the top, most loyal finalists get shouted out.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

proud kraken
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Just talking in general and thought I'd put here:

I feel like the Finals is lacking a good sense of progression.
Levels capped, doesn't show in match, can't see others stats comparisons, lack of interactivity in general.

COD has that nailed down, people, especially in shooters inherently love to show off how 'good they are', comparing stats with friends, competing with others in private 1v1s with no respawn time etc.

It lacks that factor massively, big issue with halo infinite too

paper hornet
earnest sierra
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everyone was fine during season 2 when heavy was the asshole mighty meta and if anyone played light he would be trolling and immediate lose and the light teammates start running down the game

now when embark buffed the light a little and nerfed them again to make them barley viable everyone keep crying about how strong light is but no one opened his mouth when literally a single heavy could wipe an enemy team with just rpg and lewis

and then there's these fking assholes who just keep spaming the same shit over and over without explanation without video of a bug without any shit just to make others experience worse with the game

i really hope when arc raiders come out embark focus on arc raiders more and don't update the finals weekly and shut this channel down or ignore it completely and keep doing their job because apparently everyone here seems to be the genius at game making and everyone knows the shit they talking about and keep saying shit and crying like babies

@paper hornet will if someone is just keep killing you and you can't do anything that's a real actual skill issue so don't blame anyone blame yourself aimlabs is free go give it a visit lil bro lmao, toxicity is a very normal part of literally any game especially in online multi-player games so if you have screenshot for the text harassment or video for the vocal harassment over voice chat report it in discord there's a channel for this and they respond so fast other than that be better at the game

olive fulcrum
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won tournament using only heal. Never shot my gun. Teammate used hammer. This is what happens when you take away ranked cashout. Rando casuals get smashed RIP(and maybe uninstall)

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umbral dock
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so... you guys gonna get rid of TA ranked anytime soon?

stuck rock
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lewis gun buff anytime soon as well?

crystal umbra
#

✨FREE IDEAS: "Community & Content Features" Day 2✨:

The finals is lacking heavily in the community features department.

"The world's greatest gameshow" is a great opportunity foundation and a lot can come from it, so, let's talk about it:

Social Media Linking:
Add ways for us to integrate our socials and allow us to share our clips and stats.
Everyone is chasing clout and being a content creator is becoming a viable career option for some people. Become the facilitator and reap the benefits.
(Free promo and additional engagement)

Company system:
For the last 20 days I've been pasting an idea where we highly encourage the creation of "Clans" in the finals. I call them "companies" since we will be "working" with the sponsors in game for highly desirable one-time cosmetics.
(Increases player count, player hours, encourages team play, helps expand the lore a bit, & gives sponsors a more integral role in The Finals)
+Do not let me down I swear to God.

Pregame Lobby & File share system:
I don't know how the new pregame Lobby would work but the current "lobby" system is kinda bare bones and doesn't do much for community.
I completely understand opting to omit a lobby and only have us talk to team mates since the game is pretty competitive
BUT
Having an ability to share clips or view clips would be cool.
Just sharing a thought here, still, I can't help but feel like the lobbies could be done so much better...

Spectate Mode:
This one I hold dear to my heart.
Imagine, the top "companies" -as mentioned above- or top ranked contestants UNLOCK or are invited to be an in-game streamer.

Lol hear me out: in game they can now see how many of US are watching THEM play The Finals.
Kinda like, we make the top 500 leaderboard more useful since we can click on their position on the leaderboard and watch them if they are currently in game, or if they have any clips uploaded. *And this makes things more competitive since they have direct line of sight for anyone logging into the game and looking at the leaderboard.

Of course a lot of the top Finalists are already on twitch but that would be such a flex. We could also make it a twitch integration kinda thing on top.
(Nevertheless, free promo for top finalists, free promo for The Finals, even more reason to reach the top)

Thank you for your consideration 🚀

tall wave
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freecam should be able to go thru walls

earnest sierra
# olive fulcrum won tournament using only heal. Never shot my gun. Teammate used hammer. This is...

whoever uninstall a game because he got outplayed or lost a game because of anything other than game breaking bugs or OP or overloaded hackers

it's the player issue not the devs i really don't see how it's embark issue and if you think people playing this game on their homes or smth so rethink about ur life fr people play games to have fun

people shouldn't be "oh i lost because an enemy team is better game is bad time to uninstall" sound like a skill issue and aimlabs is free smh

violet elbow
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love how people want light nerfed now because we dont have ranked cashout so they dont realize we are still in an HHM meta, but because the only existing cashout mode is a casual one with zero stakes everyone runs light cuz its a fun class

modern ether
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i win 2 games, i get 300 rs each, lose my next game, lose 1,300 totally fair system. All because you put me in games with unmatched teams, AND NOW YOU JUST PUT UP AGAINST THE SAME TEAM WHICH IS 5 STACK and gave me 2 silvers when im plat, and the enemy team is golds and plats. I dont know why you even have this discord server when you legit do nothing

quick coyote
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BRO FIX YOUR MATCHMAKING. I'M SO SICK OF DOING GOOD FOR 3 GAMES AND THEN GETTING MATCHED WITH THE FUCKING JOHN CENA LOVERS BRO LIKE COME ON

eager ivy
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was in plat then had 1 gold and rest bronze players kept matching with me I LOST 10 GAMES BRO STOP BRONZES FROM GETTING IN MY LOBBY THEY PLAY LIKE HELLEN KELLER COME ON

river hill
mild zealot
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ong between my AWFUL teammates and the grossly overtuned lights I feel like I'm fighting a 1 v the whole lobby

wheat aspen
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Boys, are you ready for another minor useless patch?

tall wave
#

why am i not allowed to jump ontop of the cashout station?

formal willow
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I win I get 600 rs each, I lose I lose 1000 rs each. unfair

proper lava
#

ban the sniper out of TA, its that simple

grave dew
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i win i get +400 rs, i lose i lose 1000+ rs each time... fix this shit

violet elbow
olive fulcrum
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What else can be said.

crystal umbra
#

New Game Mode Concept: ✨"Blitz"✨Day 4

Here is an idea for a new game mode in The Finals, inspired by Hardpoint

CORE PRINCIPLES:

Appeal to new players:
Faster respawns and a focus on maintaining control of a designated area make it easier to jump in and contribute.

Fast-paced and engaging:
Short to medium length matches and constant objective switching keep the action flowing.

Teamwork encouraged:
Earning money is based on team presence within the zone, rewarding coordinated pushes and revives.

  • I believe the long respawns in every game mode has turned away a lot of people. "Fast paced & Chaotic" don't seem palatable when mixed with high respawn times. I understand we want to incentivise team work, revives, and strategy but I think a game mode with fast respawns is well overdue in a game like The Finals.

GAMEPLAY:

Team Setup:
Two options for team size: 3 teams of 4 players.

  • Here I want to increase team size because I feel like people want bigger team sizes in the finals and we want a lot of destruction.
    I feel like 3 teams of 4 wouldn't be too much and would be fun for a casual game mode.

Blitz Zone:
A designated area on the map becomes the objective (Blitz Zone or whatever it's named). It can be circular, shaped like a building, or highlighted by a beam.

Earning Money:
Teams earn money based on the number of players within the Blitz Zone. More teammates present translates to higher earnings per tick.

Example:
-One person in the area will earn the base amount of points - $10 per tick

-Two people earn the base amount of $10 per tick PLUS $5 each (since there are 2 team mates inside.)

-Three people all earn the base amount of $10 per tick PLUS a bonus of $10 each (since there are 3 team mates inside

-Full team will receive a base amount of $10 per tick PLUS a bonus of $15 or $20 (since there is a full team alive in the zone)

Penalties & Rewards:
"Direct Deposit" - Kills have a small siphon effect where you take money from the enemy you killed and it's added to your team total balance.
NOTE: Only kills between players inside the Blitz Zone have siphon effect. ✨Clutch players rejoice✨

"Team wipe" aka "Bankruptcy" - Same as cashout, you loose a percentage of your teams balance if your whole team is dead at the same time.
("Bankruptcy" might be too much for a casual mode since it makes another variable to calculate mid gunfight. Might but be good for the gamer that wants to just shut their brain off. If they play this and don't care about score tm8s will complain and ruin the mood... 🤷🏾‍♂️)

Match Duration:
The game lasts between 5-10 minutes with the Blitz Zone active for 2-4 minutes before switching to a new location.

Suggestion:
For all casual modes, turn on auto Re-que. It's a wise decision.

This is a starting point, and all aspects are open for discussion and refinement.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

supple abyss
#

Please update the FSR implementation to version 3.1 ... and fix the goddamn stuck on black loading screen bug.

torn shale
#

Are you able to add the possibility to block damned swords, spears? Being a riot shield player, I can't even get close to sword players, not talking already about blocking their hits. Shield isn't able to block melee, what?

quick coyote
# crystal umbra **New Game Mode Concept: ✨"Blitz"✨Day 4** Here is an idea for a new game mode i...

I had an idea very similar to yours, except, mine was called Zone Wars. It was basically your idea, but the map was split into seven zones. There were two teams of 5 (or 6) and whoever held the zone long enough/got a certain amount of points would win that zone. The goal was to win 4 zones. Also, the objective was squarish and worked somewhat like the platform from Powershift, where if a zone was neutral or was being taken over by an enemy team, there was a small "stealing" mechanic with the alarm from Cashout.

marsh raptor
stuck sentinel
modest warren
#

Where is update? 🤔🤔 finish support for game 😂😂
8k player on Steam

umbral anchor
supple abyss
obsidian solar
#

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
  • Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
  • Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
  • Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
  • Remove the fov zoom in and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.
  • Pyro grenades "stick" to the shield and burn the player forever, making it also impossible to see

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

  • Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

  • Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam
severe geyser
#

There should be a lesser penalty when we're losing on a team advantage... damn stupid game...... -1k here we go again...

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whole coral
urban marsh
silent cargo
#

Cashout for ranked should never have left terminal attack is lame.

stoic cosmos
sullen ridge
#

Hey Embark I hope you see this, what I felt that I loved about season 1 and what everyone else loved about season 1 was the weekly community events that would involve game modes that were slightly tweaked, like for instance ; solo bank it or the cowboy cash out game mode.
Although in the recent weeks (month(s) we have been lacking that and instead been given balance changes that are needed, but not what we want.
For a conclusion what I am asking for is at least one community event every 3 weeks making the game even more fresh than it already is ❤️.

Thank you for feeding this 👍

abstract ember
#

so will the 10 second count down clock and announcer call out for 10 seconds remaining ever be fixed?

marsh raptor
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Be nice to have some priority for respawn points to not be near enemy teams. Even have some backup emergency spawn spots just in the rare case enemies are too near any of the main ones.

Its become pretty agitating to spawn directly in front of a team of 3 , like directly in front. And immediately get gunned down. Like more than 2x a match is ridiculous especially with limited respawns, and excessively long timers.

hard badger
vapid pine
#

Bring back ranked cashout

wraith orchid
#

where is the store update

spare cape
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How do I win 600-700 rs doing better then both teams and lose a 1,000 if we lose super disheartening

torn shale
minor venture
#

Give Medium a recon drone they can set to auto patrol for enemies. either ground based or air based. Enemies can be pinged automatically by the drones field of view and will function the same as pinging a spotted enemy as a player, instead of the Recon Senses that were in the game previously. This would give the medium some more viability in terminal attack as well as improving its support role in other game modes. Whether this should be a gadget or specialization Id be open to comments from others because I’m not sure what’s it be better suited as.

marsh raptor
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I hear you ! Am hoping WT shall feature those 🤞

autumn sedge
#

Reduce turret health or reaction time. THe way they are right now theyre like some sort of way way better dome shield in TA

hybrid dock
#

Way to go pushing back the shop reset and pro circuit contracts because your game isn’t finished

severe geyser
urban marsh
# severe geyser Honestly, I have been asking for a remake... Not only for these types of scenari...

Soo true man, me and my friends had some rank a few weeks ago were our team had unranked people on it and enemy team had gold and silver, and another time 1 light is sniper in kyoto that head us true forest and even in spawn with no miss….Is like i got tired of unfairplay, at least if i m on theam of 4/5 at least be more forgiving with the points i lose, smthing like that. One major change i might think of for TA to be “ competitive “ is to make all people play same class in a round, and let them chose weapons and stuff like that and see who mastered the class better then others, cause like i said is not far for a medium to fight a light with sniper, same for a light against a heavy with a hammer and chain, or a heavy against db with invis and taze. Six, cs, val, yah for those game works cause is almost same class not 3 different hp pole.

regal salmon
#

I like The Finals because it's fun.

Things that aren't fun:
Stun Gun free kills
Winch free kills
Getting "DETECTED" flash up every 5 seconds

I'm relatively happy with everything bar those things. But nobody enjoys those things. Please do something to reduce unnecessary anti-fun experiences in your otherwise extremely fun game.

night surge
#

Bruh ADPAT instead of crying and expecting things will change puss

modest warren
#

Where is update???

proven summit
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Hi, great work, guys, please make manual allocation to teams in the lobby, we often gather with friends +8 people and would like to have the opportunity to choose their own teams and be able to play 2x2x2х2, also want to add that lacks the ability to organize matches each for himself (return at least in the custom lobby) and please add the ability to control the weather and map effects.hug_friend

sudden tangle
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This update will make a difference! I know the first three updates of the worst and most ridiculous season were empty updates but it's just because Embark was preparing for a big fix to amend all mistakes! Can't wait to see many gameplay changes and not just a frog onesie!

steel veldt
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A frog onesie would be banger tho

lavish shard
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NERF FUCKING TROWING KNIFE NERF TROWING KNIFE NERF TROWING KNIFE@chilly badge 🤣🤣

chilly badge
normal condor
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Stop giving me potatoes for teamates please, I beg

smoky gust
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I wouldnt be suprised if embark wants to sync balance updates with the 2 week world tour rythm

But that would also mean that we are in for a rough time if nothing changes this update

thick sorrel
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  • The majority would like to play a bad version of ranked cash out over to no ranked cashout at all.

  • Can you please fix finally RPG to lower damage and more spread/weapon sway (at least when hip fire), so it becomes a GADGET instead of a free kill opener with 100% pickrate?

  • Stun Rework Suggestion: Make it full stun, no actions allowed, but the player has to HOLD the Stun Gun, so he can't attack while someone is stunned. This way it's a good team gagdet, but no 1v1 free kill.

dense siren
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dual blades are fucking broken

slate mauve
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Data Reshaper should be a nade.

analog smelt
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Is it understood that cashouts only giving points when they finish encourages 3rd partying and not objective control?

I think casual quickplay cashout would benefit from points being split between control and the cashout finishing.

50 cash per second for the 120 second cashout timer (to which ever team is currently in control of the cashout) total = 6,000

Cashout completion (which ever team controls cashout at the 120th second) gives 4,000

Still 20,000 required to win a game.

This is rudimentary and more of an example. The main idea is to encourage a more intuitive skill-based playstyle of control while still including the more unpredictable 3rd partying somewhat for casual uncertainty each game.

quartz shell
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snipers in TA are pretty strong, the fact that it 1taps without a good amount of skill is pretty broken

chilly wigeon
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I just love how they use that obscure way to price shit in their store. like oh the bundle is slashed prince. eh well its 1500 for buddle and 2000 if you buy ever item solo. why not just show the bundle prize and not make it look like its on sale forever 😐

sullen ridge
ember copper
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Could we ever get more prominent community events that require you to pick one of two teams kinda like a versus thing e.g sponsors / organisations or maybe Scotty vs June competition kinda thing? That might be another way to keep players engaged

hard river
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Medium turret, amazing bug guys, thank you!

frosty swallow
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guys all i want is to be able to remove the stupid crosshair movement/remove the crosshair lines so its just a center dot because i dont want my crosshair chainging shape and position :/

celest lion
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Bring back ranked tournaments, they made the game unique and terminal attack is just every other FPS game ever

gritty owl
torpid scarab
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theres collision problems regarding one of the stairs in one of the buildings in kyoto. cant send an image but the exact location of the stairs of said buildings is the one that leads you to a bamboo forest from the building, the stairs have 5 steps in total

violet elbow
random star
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In patchnotes there were notes that bug with winch claw was fixed, where you stay in a captured state even after death but it still present, only fix is to discconect and reconnect, that drives me mad

weak valley
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Scotty and June need to say the same thing to a whole team so we can laugh about it together

tall cradle
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Throwing knives need to be nerfed. They used to be a weapon for skilled players, a weapon that's hard to use but can dish out a lot of damage. Nowadays every PS lobby has at least one Light(if not half the lobby) using them. Not every weapon needs to have a low skill ceiling. It feels like literally change to Lights is just to appease the solo players who don't understand that class and just want easy kills. I do think it's important to cater to the casual audience in a game clearly not built for the competetive scene, but if literally every casual lobby is predominantly populated by one class, you know something's not right.

urban marsh
# burnt notch No melee is able to out DPS any gun no matter what, and in most cases that wont ...

Man i m not saying heavy is week, i m saying thay he s to op, melee is one tap for medium and light, hammer does 300+ dmg in one heavy swing, true stay away and fighting back is a good tactic , but not now, they chain you close and get killed in 1 sec, what i said is from a medium main, got sick of getting killed by heavy not been able to fright. When i m winning a fight against them they charge me and 180 in one go, then when i manage to get away bam rpg in the face another 140….i don’t know what you understand in my text …. But what i was saying is that heavy can kill a medium in one tap, i won’t mind if that stuff requires skill like the dagger that in my point of view is a true skill weapon, not many can play it

slim sun
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Too much addiction

stoic zinc
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sorry game dead feelsbadman

vagrant galleon
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why are there a bunch of brain dead no mic players on this game?

torn shale
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You buffed what must not be buffed. Throwing knives are cancer now! There was a skill gap between experienced players and newbies before. That happens when developers do not play their game, sadly! The game is dead for me now.

glass sequoia
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THERMAL VISION NEEDS SERIOUS QOL BUFFS.

  1. Thermal should still display THE EDGES OF THE MAP
  2. Thermal should show MINES
  3. Thermal should display important information like IF SOMEONE IS BEING HEAL BEAMED
  4. Thermal can be accidentally toggled on and then off immediately after by accident. Please give a grace period for re-activation.
  5. Thermal makes your entire scope become bright white and unable to be seen through whenever you are also invisible.
  6. THERMAL HIDES STEALTHED CHARACTERS (it's primary use) IF THEIR HITBOXES ARE AGAINST THE SKYBOX OF THE GAME

THERMAL VISION NEEDS SERIOUS QOL BUFFS

burnt notch
urban marsh
somber axle
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This patch update must be big

@somber hound ⚰️⚰️⚰️

somber hound
magic wing
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I expect quite a few bug fixes on this one. I don't think we'll see much new in terms of gameplay, with Sweden being in their holiday season. But I would bet there'll be bug fixes

stray thunder
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We need some sort of matchmaking on World Tour. It's just frustrating to soloq there and it cannot be fun for new players either being totally owned hug_friend

shadow hound
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7k damage 3v5 game with 2 leavers and 0 loss mitigation -600 points and demotion. WHEN WILL THIS BE FIXED ?!

rigid iron
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how difficult is it to fix the clipping on kyoto stairs

tidal wave
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TA is the best gamemode for ranked around

pallid zephyr
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Mechanically this game is the best (besides Apex Legends) but the lack of players is killing It - the vast quantity of game modes doesn`t contribute to that either.

haughty niche
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give sword back gadget swapping or introduce a new way of expressing skill. and nerf charge dmg

broken geyser
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EMBARK Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode. WE NEED THIS IN THE FINALS.

cosmic sedge
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so sad they never gave a sign that they're reading this, cuz i'm convinced they never read this channel a single time 😭 at least make some polls or something like that

fallow idol
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Add more weapons

marble creek
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Alright, I'm gonna say it because it's all I see in games. The light class is the best one in the game. Regularly I get matches where a team is only lights, and they are frustrating to fight against. Why? The dash ability they get. It's impossible to fight a team that just blinks around you and guns you down.

I would suggest 1 of 2 options... add a longer recharge for dashes, so that using them needs to be more planned than spammed, or, have 1 less dash... if I had to choose, I'd say the first one, cause I know yall won't get rid of the ability, even if I think it should be.

sick forum
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as a hardcore light main since OB, i think there should be some reworks so it’s a little less prevalent without removing its viability from certain modes.

  • add a cooldown for dashes, and increase charge time. A dash can be used to outsmart opponents in the middle of a battle, but because they recharge so fast and can be used in quick succession, dash has become a constant tool to simply move faster and run away before anyone can shoot back.

  • give grapple hook an additional charge. it’s fine right now for getting verticality, but is essentially useless once you use it, or during a gunfight. an additional charge means it keeps that sense of verticality, but also gives players the ability to strategize with the grapple hook while in battle, swinging from one point to another to get a better angle on the enemy. by far the most useless and frustrating ability for lights rn

  • cloak is pretty much fine as-is, i would suggest maybe lowering the volume because it’s pretty easy to spot without it right now, and the noise gives players with a headset a clear advantage against lights.

everyone says it, but throwing knives need a serious nerf, they’re just a gimmick atp and don’t really take any skill.

edit: reply to @jagged cradle

i get what ur saying but if u look at what light players are running it’s like 60% dash, 30% invis and maybe 10 % grapple. i don’t think dash is necessarily OP, it just is the only ability that helps during a gunfight, whereas the other two are more about mobility and catching the opponent by surprise. once u get the hang of mobility (window jumps, gateway, etc.) and learn to sneak up effectively (invis bomb, sonar grenade, etc.) the most effective ability is easily the dash.

i also think that bc dash is much easier to control and far more responsive, an extra grapple charge would not make it better than dash in a lot of circumstances

quick coyote
# marble creek Alright, I'm gonna say it because it's all I see in games. The light class is th...

You see lights everywhere in casual because casual is all about fun, people play for fun, with whatever they find fun. So happens light is fun.

On a competitive level where the game should be balanced around, light is nowhere near the best. It has always been, and still is Heavy.

Nerfing based on uncoordinated casuals' shitty feedback is why we're here, and why LH1 got giga buffed at the start of the season.

Edit: by competitive level, I refer to ranked cashout which is what the game was built around.

autumn bison
jagged cradle
# sick forum as a hardcore light main since OB, i think there should be some reworks so it’s ...

I understand your suggestions and arguments but quite frankly as a player who plays all three classes( to better understand all abilities and counters) + has leveled up all gadgets and specializations to 5 ( except for dAPS turret at 4 because it's xp gain is at max 800 a match with 80% time use : that too in PowerShiFt with everyone spamming projectiles) ---

Dash is fine ( needs skill to use and for players to counter it )- at a great place actually, even the grapple is okay, the recharge is fine too... could be a little quicker but then it would be a better pick against dash then....but invis is the one needed to be nerfed. - thank God for the sound alert everyone gets when someone is using Invis - invis ability is kinda the same as the wall hack that mediums had.

  • low skill and shines especially when there is chaos cuz you're getting all the cheap kills + I absolutely do not like players who use invis and snipe --- the game allows it but I think it's super cheap ( so I make it a point to hunt them down and make it miserable for them )
spark shard
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Rename this channel from "feedback" to "placebo". No matter what we can add here, 0 or less is being or will be considered for the future of this game.

versed hazel
cosmic sedge
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They could at least give the entire chat log to an AI, isolate the 10 most common things people ask and adress them but no company actually cares that much lmao

marble creek
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I know at the top would be snipers, just scrolling through it blindly I saw a LOT of talk about those

quick coyote
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New map (basic) every month

1 New advanced map per season

quick coyote
# autumn bison the game needs to be balanced for competitive and casual

That's not possible. Simply because casuals don't have the capacity to understand what is balanced and what not.

Say how they complained about cloak now it's nerfed to the ground? How they still believe RPG is balanced? How they think heavy is weak and needs buffs? How they think light is overpowered?

Anyone with more than 2 braincells and a single match on ranked cashout would instantly figure it out.

It's impossible to balance the game for both and should only be balanced around players who understand the game.

autumn bison
# quick coyote That's not possible. Simply because casuals don't have the capacity to understan...

it is possible, but admittedly difficult. Casuals may not be able to express what is or isn't balanced, but casuals still play games in large numbers and Embark still has to appeal to them if they want a healthy userbase. That doesn't mean Embark should be simply balancing on what casuals say they want, Embark has the data, if Lights are absolutely dominant in casual play and it is turning off a large chunk of casual players that needs to be fixed, but it needs to be fixed in a way that doesn't ruin the game for ranked players.

jagged cradle
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@spark shard Have faith bro, compared to most games I have played... Embark has updated the game and made fixes more frequently... Albeit we have to trust their formula--- vs what we feel*

According to our unique experiences we tend to formulate what should be, balances and fixes aren't easy, and if you pay attention to the community 80% of suggestions are things that would make their favorite class better vs abilities, weapons and gadgets that people have problem countering with.

Most of these issues would be easily understood if the players didn't specialize in playing only one class... You gotta play the classes you are struggling with to understand the abilities and limitations...

crimson crag
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make it so ppl have to be a high level to q ranked, would fix the cheating problem

crystal umbra
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✨FREE IDEA: "Company System"✨ Day 28

"Hey bro, do you wanna join our company?"

Encourage us to play and make friends. I'm talking about make The Finals about team play (Way too much solo culture in ranked)

They need to make a "squad" system next season.
For obvious reasons I believe this idea will lead to a exponential engagement effect, let me explain:

"Squads" or "Companies" should be able to select or vote for sponsors:
-Vaiiya
-Volpe
-Engimo
-Ospuze
Etc.

During the season we should be able to grind for "fame" so we can get company drip (cosmetics) for completing these "company contracts".
(Gives me reason to hop back on the game, me and my friends are working towards a goal now. +++ Add Bonus Points for playing with company mates)

This may take the place of circuits but I think my ideas fits the theme of the game-show AND this gives people a reason to play with friends and implore their friends to hop on The Finals with them.

Create specialized cosmetics for these sponsors. Once your company selects one they are locked in for specialized one-time cosmetics.

This creates urgency AND rarity since -for example- the season 4 OSPUZE set will never show up again. (Same for Engimo, Vaiiya, etc.)
Remember, ONLY AVAILABLE FOR ONE SEASON

Top companies (companies with the most "fame" or money cashed out) are showed on the World Tour leaderboard.
There they should be able to display or link their Twitch and other socials.

✨((MAKE YOUR CONTESTANTS STARS))✨
Appeal to human nature and give us something to talk about amongst ourselves. Give us something to brag about.
"Oh shxt, that's Ottr from 'x' Company".

In real life athletes have sponsor drip, well in The Finals - The world's greatest game-show - it's no different.

We get to flex our specialized drop from our favorite sponsors (opportunity to expand the lore)
And the top, most loyal finalists get shouted out.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

stuck sentinel
vernal swallow
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you better let me reorder teams in custom match with the update tomorrow cuz you for real removed solo bank it and now I can’t 1v1 even though you only need 2 people to start a match, also this has been wanted since custom matches came out cuz it’s annoying to have to do bank it if you want to do a match with your friends instead of quick cash

grave cairn
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Hey this game is awesome and I appreciate the hard work that goes into not only making a game but striving to update and perfect it

inner stone
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Dash really needs its number of charges reduced if we're gonna be keeping this damage output on the lights

tender mulch
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SMOKES NEED TO BE MORE SMOKY

versed cloud
# quick coyote That's not possible. Simply because casuals don't have the capacity to understan...

Terminal Attack is the new ranked mode though as it stands, and lights are probably the strongest class to use in it. I don't think light is overpowered in Cashout mode for the record. But that's just because of mediums healing beam combined with heavy negating damage. Light is NOT overpowered in cash out it's actually pretty balanced. But if only one class has true long range weapon options and get scouting tools like thermal bore and sonar and gets to be invisible that's a very strong combo in TA. At least on defense

simple quiver
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We need the pre alpha trailer music on spotify and other streaming services PLEASE it hits so hard

olive vector
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SORT The cloaking out! It's so strong!!!

warm basalt
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A reload cancel timer upon actions would be great
I set up to 80% then any action that would cancel the reload (mount, pickup^, zip line etc...) would not be possible past that 80% threshold

spark shard
tidal wave
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TA is the best gamemode around dun remove it pls

hexed abyss
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to avoid shitty tactic like snipers at super long ranges or incently sized maps that can cause unfair attacking methods or very annoying flanking from one or 2 defenders, they could create these map sections that optimise how the map plays depending on where the terminals are palced, they do this in the tutotials, I don't see why doing it on a larger scale would be a bad thing for TA, obv in training its just one terminal, but this could solve the issue where attackers have 17 lanes and defenders can take the most overpowered sidelines with snipers or have insane unfair flanks.

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deep summit
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  • Make this a Thread Channel with 1 post per player = no flooding Yayy common sense
  • Terminal Attack ranked system doesn't work without Skill Based Match Making, you will get griefed by smurfs. Higher RS will queue with low RS smurfs so they will have small loss and big win. It is also unfair for new players to go up against diamonds/top 500
  • If I solo queue I shouldn't go up against a 3,4 or 5 stack premade teams, it should only be other solo queue players
  • Add Kill Cams, makes it easier to discern if the player is using walls or aimbot
  • Add regular ranked
  • Better Anti Cheat (DMA Bypasses Easy Anti - Cheat, that's why you have a cheater epidemic)
  • Balance
  • A lot of unranked players are cheaters, they ruin ranked for everyone else and once they get banned they make a new account,** Better Anti Cheat or IP Ban is the only solution **
  • Play Test your game, none of these issues would be present if you did play testing (You can die off spawn in Terminal Attack)
  • Quick scoping with the sniper doesn't produce a light glare which is op, perfect accuracy and if they run invis you won't know where they're gonna strike.
  • The Cheaters who try hide it have the fastest time to kill, that's a dead giveaway

The Finals devs are the most incompetent dev team I've ever seen(I say incompetent because they know the issues but they don't care), it's so obvious the issues of the game some playtesting will reveal it, but they don't play test. If the devs tried playing ranked they would fix it, but they don't

burnt notch
# deep summit - **__Make this a Thread Channel with 1 post per player = no flooding__** Yayy c...

if they really were the most incompetent dev team, i dont think they'd have reverted the obscene LH1 buff, they would've not listened to us and removed bank it despite our pleas, and they sure as hell would not be putting out any community update videos.

I can agree with msot of the stuff in ur list, but don't shit on the devs just cuz they aren't obeying to every single item on that list, most of which are pretty vague btw.

lime lichen
weak valley
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Scotty and June need to say the same thing to a whole team so we can laugh about it together

hardy bridge
lavish reef
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I hope when I say this we can all agree that the Flamethrower needs an intense nerf

silent fog
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Nerf the throwing knives tomorrow or I'm convinced whoever does balancing is clueless

autumn bison
raw moss
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Some ideas I had for like tweaks and buffs and such for various melee weapons:

  • give TK a magazine of six daggers, basic fire throws one dagger at 45 damage and alt fire throws two daggers for 90(Same way as now)

-sword having stance based moves would be neat. Crouch slash is a wide sweep, jump slash is vertical upward strike, standing is normal slash, slashing out of sprint is a little spin move. For lung crouching makes you jump upwards in a stab, air lunge is a plunging stab, standing lunge is what we already have and sprinting lunge(you can sprint while holding lunge tho you move at the speed of a heavy sprinting) is a quick draw. You can put these moves together into combos(there is a list three moves back, if you repeat a move in this then the combo isn’t valid and has a long delay between the moves).

-double blades have reduced deflect spread

-riot shield is now a physical object that mines and such can be put on. Getting hit by a pyro grenade on the shield lights the shield on fire but not the user. Additionally while holding up the shield and hitting attack makes you shield bash, knocking back hit enemies.

-spear alt fire is now a throw, when you throw the spear it sticks to an enemy or surface and becomes a valid target for grapple or winch claw. Throwing a spear while another one is out despawns the previously thrown spear.

hybrid dock
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I seriously can’t believe out of all the fucking weapons they give to the light class. It’s the throwing knives that absolutely dominates this game. It’s so ridiculous.

bleak nexus
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5-7 loss, im 12-7, 8000 combat score, we had a dc for 3 rounds, an afk for 2 rounds. and i lose 1400. make it make sense

rugged fiber
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This is my only complaint of the game (This is not real)

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pseudo breach
gentle narwhal
marble creek
marsh raptor
crystal umbra
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✨New Game Mode Concept: "Blitz"✨Day 4

Here is an idea for a new game mode in The Finals, inspired by Hardpoint

CORE PRINCIPLES:

Appeal to new players:
Faster respawns and a focus on maintaining control of a designated area make it easier to jump in and contribute.

Fast-paced and engaging:
Short to medium length matches and constant objective switching keep the action flowing.

Teamwork encouraged:
Earning money is based on team presence within the zone, rewarding coordinated pushes and revives.

  • I believe the long respawns in every game mode has turned away a lot of people. "Fast paced & Chaotic" don't seem palatable when mixed with high respawn times. I understand we want to incentivise team work, revives, and strategy but I think a game mode with fast respawns is well overdue in a game like The Finals.

GAMEPLAY:

Team Setup:
Two options for team size: 3 teams of 4 players.

  • Here I want to increase team size because I feel like people want bigger team sizes in The Finals to play with more friends. Also we want a lot of destruction.
    I feel like 3 teams of 4 would not be too much and would be fun for a casual game mode.

Blitz Zone:
A designated area on the map becomes the objective (Blitz Zone or whatever it's named). It can be circular, shaped like a building, or highlighted by a beam.

Earning Money:
Teams earn money based on the number of players within the Blitz Zone. More teammates present translates to exponentially higher earnings per tick.

Example:
-One person in the area will earn the base amount of points - $10 per tick

-Two people earn the base amount of $10 per tick PLUS $5 each (since there are 2 team mates inside.)

-Three people all earn the base amount of $10 per tick PLUS a bonus of $10 each (since there are 3 team mates inside

-Full team will receive a base amount of $10 per tick PLUS a bonus of $15 or $20 EACH (since there is a full team alive in the zone)

Penalties & Rewards:
"Direct Deposit" - Kills have a small siphon effect where you take money from the enemy you killed and it's added to your teams total balance.
NOTE: Only kills between players inside the Blitz Zone have siphon effect. ✨Clutch players rejoice✨

"Team wipe" aka "Bankruptcy" - Same as cashout, you loose a percentage of your teams balance if your whole team is dead at the same time.
OR bankruptcy can have a short lock-out effect where a team might not be able to earn for a short period of time after respawning.
("Bankruptcy" might be too much for a casual mode since it makes another variable to calculate mid gunfight. Might but be good for the gamer that wants to just shut their brain off. If they play this and don't care about score tm8s will complain and ruin the mood... Maybe this is an idea for a less casual mode🤷🏾‍♂️)

Match Duration:
The game lasts between 5-10 minutes with the Blitz Zones active for 2-4 minutes each before switching to a new location.

Suggestion:
For all casual modes, turn on auto Re-que. It's a wise decision.

This is a starting point, and all aspects of Blitz are open for discussion and refinement.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

daring fossil
raw moss
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@crystal umbra dawg keep cooking this shite is fire

frozen glen
#

Idk if this is a problem for everyone, but on Xbox I can't join people or invite them unless i add them first. If not it just says "failed to join". It's a real pain in the ass, and from what I can tell it's literally killing the Xbox player base. Log went from 35+ to consistently less than 20bin only a week pls fix this

iron berry
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just add them, doesn’t seem to difficult

muted relic
#

CAN THE FINALS PLS BE ON PS4

crystal umbra
#

✨FREE IDEAS: "Community & Content Features"✨: Day 4

The finals is lacking heavily in the community features department.

"The world's greatest gameshow" is a great opportunity foundation and a lot can come from it, so, let's talk about it:

Social Media Linking:
Add ways for us to integrate our socials and allow us to share our clips and stats.
Everyone is chasing clout and being a content creator is becoming a viable career option for some people. Become the facilitator and reap the benefits.
(Free promo and additional engagement)

Company system:
For the last 20 days I've been pasting an idea where we highly encourage the creation of "Clans" in the finals. I call them "companies" since we will be "working" with the sponsors in game for highly desirable one-time cosmetics.
(Increases player count, player hours, encourages team play, helps expand the lore a bit, & gives sponsors a more integral role in The Finals)
+Do not let me down I swear to God.

Pregame Lobby & File share system:
I don't know how the new pregame Lobby would work but the current "lobby" system is kinda bare bones and doesn't do much for community.
I completely understand opting to omit a lobby and only have us talk to team mates since the game is pretty competitive
BUT
Having an ability to share clips or view clips would be cool.
Just sharing a thought here, still, I can't help but feel like the lobbies could be done so much better...

Spectate Mode:
This one I hold dear to my heart.
Imagine, the top "companies" -as mentioned above- or top ranked contestants UNLOCK or are invited to be an in-game streamer.

Lol hear me out: in game they can now see how many of US are watching THEM play The Finals.
Kinda like, we make the top 500 leaderboard more useful since we can click on their position on the leaderboard and watch them if they are currently in game, or if they have any clips uploaded. *And this makes things more competitive since they have direct line of sight for anyone logging into the game and looking at the leaderboard.

Of course a lot of the top Finalists are already on twitch but that would be such a flex. We could also make it a twitch integration kinda thing on top.
(Nevertheless, free promo for top finalists, free promo for The Finals, even more reason to reach the top)

Thank you for your consideration 🚀

raven topaz
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nothing except a thanks from embark for a cheater i reported, wasted my time and lost me a lot of RS

slate cairn
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⁉️ paying ⁉️ devs⁉️ to⁉️ make⁉️ a⁉️ comp⁉️ scene⁉️

keen lily
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played the first game since a long time and it was laggy af, never had an issue like this since this game so I guess there's still new issues lol

echo urchin
#

New mode idea:

Cash Grab / Coin Toss: in the practice arena is that wall where you can try throwing the cube through different holes. That got me thinking how fun it would be to have a football style game mode.
• Two teams battling over one cube, trying to snag it and throw it into one of the holes on the other team's wall to score points.
• I'm thinking 6v6: GK Heavy, Two Medium midfielders, 3 light attackers.
• Squad wipe would be a guaranteed goal though. So, maybe no respawn timer so the focus is always on out playing the other team and not just going for squad wipes.
• It could be done by using smaller sections of the maps that exist.

misty jasper
earnest sierra
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day 1 of asking the devs to rename this channel from "game feedback" to "crying yappers"

mossy marlin
deep summit
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  • Make this a Thread Channel with 1 post per player = no flooding Yayy common sense
  • Terminal Attack ranked system doesn't work without Skill Based Match Making, you will get griefed by smurfs. Higher RS will queue with low RS smurfs so they will have small loss and big win. It is also unfair for new players to go up against diamonds/top 500
  • In World Tour you cannot switch loadouts, specialization I understand even though that is also stupid to not be able to change upon death
  • If I solo queue I shouldn't go up against a 3,4 or 5 stack premade teams, it should only be other solo queue players
  • Add Kill Cams, makes it easier to discern if the player is using walls or aimbot
  • Add regular ranked
  • Better Anti Cheat (DMA Bypasses Easy Anti - Cheat, that's why you have a cheater epidemic)
  • Balance
  • A lot of unranked players are cheaters, they ruin ranked for everyone else and once they get banned they make a new account,** Better Anti Cheat or IP Ban is the only solution **
  • Play Test your game, none of these issues would be present if you did play testing (You can die off spawn in Terminal Attack)
  • Quick scoping with the sniper doesn't produce a light glare which is op, perfect accuracy and if they run invis you won't know where they're gonna strike.
  • The Cheaters who try hide it have the fastest time to kill, that's a dead giveaway

The Finals devs are the most incompetent dev team I've ever seen(I say incompetent because they know the issues but they don't care), it's so obvious the issues of the game some playtesting will reveal it, but they don't play test. If the devs tried playing ranked they would fix it, but they don't

true karma
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power shift on vegas

versed hazel
#

yeah actually how come powershift aint on vegas yet

ember tusk
#

just remove TA from ranked ffs

hasty cliff
vernal swallow
mossy rain
#

I want tournaments

drowsy storm
#

add q tip skin for spear

spare radish
#

Why I got matchmaking suspensions after the game crashed and I rejoined the match? It says: "Due to abandoning a competitive match, you have been temporarily suspended from playing competetive modes".
I didn't leave. Your updates have made this game prone to crash pretty often. And I rejoined the match asap. So wtf?

astral dune
#

Please buff the CL-40 :(

rigid shale
#

some equipment levels to rank 8
some equipment levels to rank 6
some equipment levels to rank 5

WHY

glad star
#

Why do I get a matchmaking suspension when my teammate leaves a game in World Tour? The restriction timer is over and I still cannot search now

brittle obsidian
#

nerf the 93r again so it can be the designated intentionally trash gun to use to flex on people

rough herald
#

Buff cl40 direct hit damage pls it have the worst dps in the game

AND NOT The splash damage ok? i don't want my belove cl40 be a noob gun

rustic crater
#

Bring ranked cash out back

jagged knot
finite briar
deep summit
somber hound
#

i hope tomorrow is a anti cheat fix!!!!!!!!

barren wyvern
#

Some suggestions for new weapons.
Medium weapons
An94
+everyone loves hyperburst
+higher hs multiplier on the first 2 rounds
-less overall damage relative to ak/fcar
-a bit more recoil than the ak
Ash-12
+slow rate of fire and high damage
+maybe a scope for medium range
-bouncy recoil
-small mag
-longer reload
Gm6-lynx
+semiauto with scope(or irons, id love to cqb with a 50cal)
+slow cycle rate high damage (2shot light, 3shot medium, 5shot heavy)
-bouncy recoil
-5/6/7/8 round mag
-slow reload
Heavy weapons
Minigun
+high rof
+increased damage to buildings
-heavy can move very slowly or not at all while firing
-spin up time
-its a minigun you get it
M2browning
+high damage
+high damage to buildings
-30round mag
-slow rof
Light weapons
An94
+instead of giving it to a medium
-higher damage falloff
Mp-18 or mp40
+higher damage than mp5
+irons and controllabe recoil
-slow rof
-smaller mag than mp5
M1014/Benelli m4
+semiauto shotgun
+close range beast
+6/8 rounds
-cap rof
-slow reload(ghostload it like the 1887, we love the animations)
-high damage falloff

rough shell
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I haven't lagged this bad since I used to play apex. This is the only game I lag in now. You know there needs to be something fixed when the practice range is unplayable. get pulled back every 2 seconds

ember tusk
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Is anyone even playing TA? Just remove it from ranked. It's suckign thye soul out of this game

rigid shale
surreal meadow
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Quality of Life:

  • When explosive mines hit for max damage, make the crit sound
  • When CL40 hit direct impact for max damge, make the crit sound
  • When frag hit for max damage, make the crit sound
obsidian solar
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BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
  • Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
  • Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
  • Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
  • Remove the fov zoom in and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.
  • Pyro grenades "stick" to the shield and burn the player forever, making it also impossible to see

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

  • Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

  • Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam
white sundial
#

When fixed load screen bug?

sonic wigeon
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Buff thermal bore! Make it also stick on players and have AOE-damage. Making it much more fun

paper stream
#

Would be nice Embark if you could separate premade squads from solo queue players.

ripe seal
#

Casual mode where you can swap loadouts freely like power shift? My favorite part of that mode but I prefer Cashout gameplay. I guess it could be added to quick cash too but unlimited counter picking is very unbalanced

rough ember
#

FIXXX THEEE LOAAADING SCREEN BUGGG FFFFS

rustic birch
#

please please please take out the sniper in powershift. no one enjoys playing against it. please.

shy parcel
hybrid dock
#

YOOOOOOO MY FUCKING SHOTS ARENT REGISTERING ON THE 1887 yet AGAIAN!!!!

quick coyote
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Question. Will there be more weapons for Medium and heavy? Light has soooo many different weapons and gadgets it makes it more customizable and probably why most people play as light. (Also the op guns and movement.😐 can't wait for someone to reply with "skill issue"😒🙄👈)

jagged cedar
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Bring back multistabs

umbral anchor
swift sail
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Can we please be able to toggle cooldowns on equipment in practice range?

hybrid dock
# umbral anchor skill issue

You’re not going to be the one to get me banned from the sub chat for saying something to you bro but nice try get back to the Minecraft forums my man

rustic birch
half moat
edgy urchin
#

day 12 of asking embark to balance the finals!

elder umbra
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aint nothing to complain just bring back cashout rank .. gold 1 in WT , now grinding other game till cashout rank is back , i love you embark i know and i believe u guys cooked something for better future of this game

remote drift
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Can we please please please fix the bugs in the game? Two of my teammates crashed and were each out two rounds, my audio got garbled and only emitted sound out of the right channel, all while getting severely outmatched by the other team. Totally unfair.

shy parcel
stuck rock
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im reeeally hoping for some sort of lewis gun buff, maybe a heal buff as well cuz heavy is insanly hard to play

marsh raptor
lime lichen
jagged cedar
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heavies when they cant instakill everyone on sight

young smelt
#

The finals went from one of the most fun games to the worst game I actively play. TA was the worst mistake ever. Refusing to listen to your community has permanently ruined your reputation and this game will never make it.

eager ivy
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aint gonna lie heavy is very bad only thing going for him is rpg and melee weapons his guns are pretty bad other than the slug shot gun if used good. people who say heavy is op just have bad positioning and are mid at the game tbh

umbral anchor
rugged fiber
rose rock
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So I have a couple suggestions for future updates.

  1. Make it available to show offline in-game. Sometimes I wouldnt want to be bothered by my friends, and be a hermit.

  2. Interactive emotes with team. When I do feel fun and interactive, I would like to share an emote with my friends mid-game. (such as high fives.)

steep sigil
lilac mango
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Melee, excluding the dual swords and riot shield, should NOT eat your shots. It's incredibly frustrating to shoot 3 out of my 6 revolver shots, just to realize the heavy spamming left click with his spear took 0 damage because my bullets hit the spear. I have no idea that this was even a thing, and it's ridiculous.

fallow loom
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some Ideas for improving 3rd party problems:

1.give the cashouts an area effect that if a 3rd team enters the area, they get a debuff, maybe a reduce in HP, movement speed, firerate, or disable health regen and revive, or take more damage, or increase their stealing time(a lot), or apply glitch on them periodically, or randomly swap their weapons

  1. raise a banner for everyplayer when a 3rd team is coming their way mid fight or is not having a fight at all anywhere

  2. only allow each team to 3rd party once each game

  3. revive the dead and regen to full for the owner of the cashout (or for the team that is not wiped if one team is wiped, and the wiped team gets to quickly respawn near the other cashout) if 3rd party is triggered

please consider some of these, as I truly hope TA be gone from ranked

proven crown
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Change vault and team spawns to minimise third partying and bad macro decisions by noobs. Volts could spawn closer to stations, and two teams should spawn a lot closer to the one vault versus the other.

slate mauve
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Data Reshaper...should be...a nade.
Crazy thought. I know.

rustic birch
# half moat Snipe them back?

(in powershift) having to switch off your weapon and abilities to play light and snipe a sniper when theyre most likely gonna be better and 1-shot you, is a pretty lame balancing act.

marsh raptor
eternal wigeon
jade inlet
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No more killing teammates when they get DC'd

stuck rock
# lime lichen There is no way you think the easiest class is hard to play, if so then you migh...

its not the easiest class you nerd neck light is for sure, heavy cant even compare to lights, but i guess you live under a rock or have like no elo. but anyway the recoil for Lewis is probably the most intense in the entire game and given the dmg its almost not worth it at all. if they made the recoil better than it would be worth or slight dmg increase. if i looked at your class then that doesn't even make heavy that easy, you can open and close cover, heal other players, defib, and have strong weapons that are consistent. that's the issue with Lewis, inconsistent to use.

woeful thorn
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Please let us play the back minigame while using some 3rd person animations, or if there is a way make it clear on how to start it.

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eager ivy
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yeah heavy is def one of the harder classes to play light is way too easy major reason is the dps of lights weapons and abilities people who say light is hardest just play like hellen keller and have no idea dont even get me started on TA lights lmao

elder folio
#

Lemme use non skin specific animations on skins, I wanna use the jackpot juggle and other akm anims on the holtow insured skin

torn steppe
#

keep getting bugged where it shows i have a gun but its really using the healing beam 😦 it shows the gun shooting but its really doing nothing

crystal umbra
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✨FREE IDEA: "Company System"✨ Day 28

"Hey bro, do you wanna join our company?"

Encourage us to play and make friends. I'm talking about make The Finals about team play (Way too much solo culture in ranked)

They need to make a "squad" system next season.
For obvious reasons I believe this idea will lead to a exponential engagement effect, let me explain:

"Squads" or "Companies" should be able to select or vote for sponsors:
-Vaiiya
-Volpe
-Engimo
-Ospuze
Etc.

During the season we should be able to grind for "fame" so we can get company drip (cosmetics) for completing these "company contracts".
(Gives me reason to hop back on the game, me and my friends are working towards a goal now. +++ Add Bonus Points for playing with company mates)

This may take the place of circuits but I think my ideas fits the theme of the game-show AND this gives people a reason to play with friends and implore their friends to hop on The Finals with them.

Create specialized cosmetics for these sponsors. Once your company selects one they are locked in for specialized one-time cosmetics.

This creates urgency AND rarity since -for example- the season 4 OSPUZE set will never show up again. (Same for Engimo, Vaiiya, etc.)
Remember, ONLY AVAILABLE FOR ONE SEASON

Top companies (companies with the most "fame" or money cashed out) are showed on the World Tour leaderboard.
There they should be able to display or link their Twitch and other socials.

✨((MAKE YOUR CONTESTANTS STARS))✨
Appeal to human nature and give us something to talk about amongst ourselves. Give us something to brag about.
"Oh shxt, that's Ottr from 'x' Company".

In real life athletes have sponsor drip, well in The Finals - The world's greatest game-show - it's no different.

We get to flex our specialized drop from our favorite sponsors (opportunity to expand the lore)
And the top, most loyal finalists get shouted out.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

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sudden tangle
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the ONLY reason im playing is because I have hope ranked cashout will come back

crisp ginkgo
#

the v9s is basically a semi auto laser pointer, the very least that can be done to nerf it is to increase recoil

red echo
#

nerf towers , they deal more dmg than ppl using towers , i dont get it why we get to have an aimbot tower in the game dealing so much dmg , maybe its healthy like ta ranked is right?

last swift
#

It’s a ranked game mode matchmaking has got to be better. There is no reason my team should have half the rs as the opposing team

tired plover
#

I used to love this game, i swapped it for apex a played it religiously. Now I encounter blatant cheating most days. If no cheaters I’m trying to carry my team who I think most likely have learning difficulties. It’s such a shame you guys at embark have made the rank system so punishing, if nothing changes in season 4 I’m out. I think I speak for most people. Doubt this comment will even get read probably too busy making new skins for guns! Yipee can’t wait.

storm siren
quick coyote
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Why can't there be 2 ranked game modes. Cash out and Ta. With that you can make it so you progress playing either of them. If this is done all the light Ta junkies with snipers can enjoy Ta cough Rainbow Six Siege cough and we the contestants can play cashout and reach THE FINALS. wow brand name

slate mauve
#

Data Reshaper should be a nade.

This whole time I been saying dematerializer...I meant Data Reshaper... :(

kind iron
#

rework dash into a jett dash, maybe each two or one kill(s) could refresh dashes, instead of a low cooldown

crystal storm
#

Heavy:

  • RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 100, full damage only on direct hit
  • Winch hook > remove from game, or rework it completely
  • Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 750 to 700
  • M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters
  • Lewis gun > clean up the recoil pattern to be less aggressive horizontally
  • Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you cant instantly kill M's, reduce cooldown. Should be more utility than 1 shot cheese.

Medium:

  • Recon senses > re-add to game - rework to be a single ping like recon nades but originating from the player. 3 charges with a pretty long recovery time
  • Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.3s so it doesnt instantly shoot if you are in its FOV
  • Defib > Remove invincibility time after getting ressed
  • FCAR > 3rd shot of recoil jumps way to hard right, reduce that horizontal recoil
  • FAMAS > Increase damage drop off range, replace the terrible ironsights with RDS or holo.
  • R.357 > increase damage drop off range and slightly lower reload time

Light:

  • Grappling hook > lower cooldown

  • Throwing Knives > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance, boost initial velocity, Lower fire rate

  • LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate

  • 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

  • DB > lower damage to 145 damage

  • V9S > Lower fire rate but increase damage (1 less shot to kill)

  • Explosive mines > damage from multi mines exploding from different sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 100

  • Cash-out should periodically give cash over time in a couple of instances (ie: 3k-5k-10k). Many high ELO games just becomes stalling for first 75% CO the time.

  • Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently, you cant balance the game for TA and CO at the same time, one will always suffer

pseudo light
tough merlin
#

Can we fix the game before we fix anything? The amazing game freeze at the end of every game is great - and it just started this season.

I haven't crashed as much so it feels like they traded crashing for the game just had freezing.

glacial knot
#

So much players disconnect in this last period

thick sorrel
# crystal storm Heavy: - RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 100, full damage only on direct hi...

Let me add:

  • The majority would like to play a bad version of ranked cash out over to no ranked cashout at all.

  • Can you please fix finally RPG to lower damage and more spread/weapon sway (at least when hip fire), so it becomes a GADGET instead of a free kill opener with 100% pickrate?

  • Stun Rework Suggestion: Make it full stun, no actions allowed, but the player has to HOLD the Stun Gun, so he can't attack while someone is stunned. This way it's a good team gagdet, but no 1v1 free kill.

  • Winch claw doesn't need damage and stun effect. Make the animation and pull slower. Allow people to counter like shooting the chain for release.

Generally speaking Specializations & Gadgets need to be HELPFUL, not free kills. It's about shooting skills, strategies and not who has the better Q Button!

astral viper
#

Sniper bodyshot damage is too strong. It's to easy to just sit at the back of the map and lock down an objective in games like Power Shift and just plink enemies to death with little repercussions.

echo urchin
#

New mode idea:
Cash Grab / Coin Toss: in the practice arena is that wall where you can try throwing the cube through different holes. That got me thinking how fun it would be to have a football style game mode.
• Two teams battling over one cube, trying to snag it and throw it into one of the holes on the other team's wall to score points.
• I'm thinking 6v6: GK Heavy, Two Medium midfielders, 3 light attackers.
• Squad wipe would be a guaranteed goal though. So, maybe no respawn timer so the focus is always on out playing the other team and not just going for squad wipes.
• It could be done by using smaller sections of the maps that exist.

jagged cradle
# fallow loom some Ideas for improving 3rd party problems: 1.give the cashouts an area effect...

I feel your pain for the 3rd partying that has been on the rise since the twitch rival broadcast but a lot of your suggestions would make the game broken for competitive play (the game needs mechanics that work for competitive play as well as casual)

High skill players would abuse it and make stealing cash out a real pain...

the very fact that makes this game so action packed and fun compared to most FPS is Also it's weakness too, as it is a sandbox game -- we, humans have a tendency to figure out shortcuts and hacks for easy wins and "camping 3rd party" is emerging as a meta strategy.

Maybe, awarding teams BONUS CASH for being in proximity to the defending cash out could be better. NOT too much but just near enough to maybe offset a team wipe-- would incentivize objective plays and bring relief benefit to teams that spend 90% of the time on the objective defending or attacking (sadly it happens a lot, you spend the whole time defending the objective to have someone sneak steal)

-- idea is to award teams of attackers and defenders who are in engagement over the cash out a little more than to someone who is camping to 3rd party with an incentive.

So to encourage straight forward play more these all would have awards,

-opening vault - around 1000* + Xp -
-initiating cash out - around 1000* + xp
-stealing cash out - around 1000* + xp
-holding cash out - 50% of the time 3500(award to the defending team)+ xp and*
-successful cash out - as is.

*--- these actions need initiative because they are high risk for the players, apart from the successful cashout which should award XP to the team, the rest of the XP should be awarded to individual only...

ADDITIONALLY, there should be a proximity XP to players that would reflect in RS or ranked point, because a lot of players in solo queue, tend to have teammates who go on chasing kills costing the team... More points for teams that stick together and are on objective. (this will lessen the camping sniper pandemic)

pale shuttle
#
  • Throwing knives need an urgent nerf, slow balance corrections are bad for player retention
  • Twitch drops need changes in quality and frequency
  • Community tournaments etc. might be a good opportunity to increase player count
shy breach
#

Add 2v2

white grove
#

Where is my old ranked ?😔

modern pivot
#

Kyoto is a bit of a weird map. I always feel like I can't see anything because of all the foliage, and I always find myself stuck on some railing, plant, etc.

marble hearth
crystal storm
pseudo light
# crystal storm there is always those low ELO players that want the skill ceiling low... SMH bu...

im 49000 atm, adding walls and nerfing heavy, the worst class in the game, is not advisable.

The bugs/interactions with gadgets, as well as the cheaters and people crashing should 110% be addressed first. If you were a high elo player, you'd know that.

Bugs causing gadgets to not work correctly directly correlate with balance? lol. Your heavy changes are 99% nerfs. I am a light player and all of your light suggestions are trash too, LH1 is insane atm and you want it buffed. Lower fire rate won't matter when you beam across the map anyway. Its clear your a light player too, since everything that is the bane of lights is what you want nerfed. Kinda cringe

rugged temple
daring ravine
#

Pleas add full keyboard and mouse support for consoles. We need the accessibility!

tropic swift
somber axle
#

Remove the snappy aim assist for throwing knives on console pls

feral shell
upper citrus
steep pendant
#

Why is lmfao/lmao censored in game?

topaz rivet
marble creek
#

I have a weird problem and I'm not sure if it's my game or just THE game at fault. I can't unequip stickers... at all... I've tried so many times but I'm stuck with them and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

velvet inlet
#

Pls separate the tattoos from the face make up hug_friend

fervent vortex
rough storm
#

I give up on this game. Whoever made the score distribution for TA is delulu. I win vs Ruby's and lose vs silvers and right now i'm back to gold 4 while i came from plat cuz every game u lose u get -800 and more but you only win ~500 per game. Matchmaking is still dumb (as i come across ruby's) I've lost about 20k points on ppl that leave or DC after third match, full server DC (and u still lose points) etc. It's just mind boggling how unfair this game mode is. Except for if you start playing the sniper. Which imo beats the whole point of this game.

eager gyro
#

no new circuit stage today? why?

pseudo light
# fervent vortex First of all your bragging about ranked but sure, I’ve been rank 1 for over 2 we...

Not bragging about rank, his argument was a "low elo player wants to make the game easier" with all of his changes he'd like in the game literally making it easier?

Congratulations on your life, or lack there of, needing to sustain that score has less to do with skill than sitting in a 5 stack shitting on plat/gold players who had the misfortune of queuing with you, and playing an absurd amount of games. Light is the king of TA being that damage is permanent, and their health return is might higher than medium or heavies. In essence, medium and heavy get punished way more for damage, and it happens light is very good at dealing damage at all ranges.

Your right about the XP54 being better than lh1, but I find its only better because its consistent (at least for me).

Saying that all builds are equal in TA though is kinda crazy, when it is at its very core, not balanced at all for the mode. I thought a "rank 1" would know that lol

modern ether
#

love how the game randomly decides to give people 0 rs when there is a leaver, sometime it does, sometimes it doenst, really fair

midnight aurora
#

The platform shouldn't crush you but rather push you away. I can't count how many times I've died because I was under one pixel of the platform while it decided to move down.

grim patrol
#

nerf throwing knife damage

crystal umbra
#

✨FREE IDEA: "Company System"✨ Day 28

"Hey bro, do you wanna join our company?"

Encourage us to play and make friends. I'm talking about make The Finals about team play (Way too much solo culture in ranked)

They need to make a "squad" system next season.
For obvious reasons I believe this idea will lead to a exponential engagement effect, let me explain:

"Squads" or "Companies" should be able to select or vote for sponsors:
-Vaiiya
-Volpe
-Engimo
-Ospuze
Etc.

During the season we should be able to grind for "fame" so we can get company drip (cosmetics) for completing these "company contracts".
(Gives me reason to hop back on the game, me and my friends are working towards a goal now. +++ Add Bonus Points for playing with company mates)

This may take the place of circuits but I think my ideas fits the theme of the game-show AND this gives people a reason to play with friends and implore their friends to hop on The Finals with them.

Create specialized cosmetics for these sponsors. Once your company selects one they are locked in for specialized one-time cosmetics.

This creates urgency AND rarity since -for example- the season 4 OSPUZE set will never show up again. (Same for Engimo, Vaiiya, etc.)
Remember, ONLY AVAILABLE FOR ONE SEASON

Top companies (companies with the most "fame" or money cashed out) are showed on the World Tour leaderboard.
There they should be able to display or link their Twitch and other socials.

✨((MAKE YOUR CONTESTANTS STARS))✨
Appeal to human nature and give us something to talk about amongst ourselves. Give us something to brag about.
"Oh shxt, that's Ottr from 'x' Company".

In real life athletes have sponsor drip, well in The Finals - The world's greatest game-show - it's no different.

We get to flex our specialized drop from our favorite sponsors (opportunity to expand the lore)
And the top, most loyal finalists get shouted out.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

tall hill
#

sword lights should naruto run when sprinting

mild zealot
#

add a selective map queue so i dont always have to play the walking sim that is kyoto or fix the map rotation

polar ermine
#

It's so good your block system doesn't work.

grim patrol
#

I think like how heavy has guitar, some music skins would be nice, drum stick dagger. violin bow sword, or alternatively, a bow skin that puts strings on the side of the bow, and the arrows are violin bows, so it plays a few chords of a violin every time you pull it back.

medium riot shield that's a stylophone (the thing people play in those vids before yelling "LET'S GO") with the baton being a stylus.

heavy spear is a giant flute.

queen shale
#

violin could be dual blades

quick coyote
#

🗡️ Dagger should be available with every character. It is unfair to keep it only with light. they are fast and thus have advantage with dagger

modern ether
#

so I just got a match with the following teams
**my team **
23,449(gold)
6,927(bronze)
10,143(silver)
18,229(silver)
(me) 30,093 (plat)

Their team:
37,706 (plat)
35,623 (plat)
31,830 (plat)
24,360 (gold)
24,003 (gold)

.....are you serious

rugged ginkgo
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✨FREE IDEA✨ It would be really cool if you could see how many players have unlocked each leveling skin on weapons and gadgets. So if you have unlocked the highest skin on something you can know how many other people have managed to do the same thing.

ocean fox
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♬ It would be so awesome ♬ if we could hide those metal hinges that charms hang onto if you are not using any charm on said weapon. Some skins (espically on throwing daggers and revolvers) look awful with those metal hinges sticking out!

crystal umbra
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✨New Game Mode Concept: "Blitz"✨Day 4

Here is an idea for a new game mode in The Finals, inspired by Hardpoint

CORE PRINCIPLES:

Appeal to new players:
Faster respawns and a focus on maintaining control of a designated area make it easier to jump in and contribute.

Fast-paced and engaging:
Short to medium length matches and constant objective switching keep the action flowing.

Teamwork encouraged:
Earning money is based on team presence within the zone, rewarding coordinated pushes and revives.

  • I believe the long respawns in every game mode has turned away a lot of people. "Fast paced & Chaotic" don't seem palatable when mixed with high respawn times. I understand we want to incentivise team work, revives, and strategy but I think a game mode with fast respawns is well overdue in a game like The Finals.

GAMEPLAY:

Team Setup:
Two options for team size: 3 teams of 4 players.

  • Here I want to increase team size because I feel like people want bigger team sizes in The Finals to play with more friends. Also we might want a lot of concentrated destruction.
    I feel like 3 teams of 4 would not be too much and would be fun for a casual game mode.

Blitz Zone:
A designated area on the map becomes the objective (Blitz Zone or whatever it's named). It can be circular, shaped like a building, or highlighted by a beam.

Earning Money:
Teams earn money based on the number of players within the Blitz Zone. More teammates present translates to exponentially higher earnings per tick.

Example:
-One person in the area will earn the base amount of points - $10 per tick

-Two people earn the base amount of $10 per tick PLUS $5 each (since there are 2 team mates inside.)

-Three people all earn the base amount of $10 per tick PLUS a bonus of $10 each (since there are 3 team mates inside

-Full team will receive a base amount of $10 per tick PLUS a bonus of $15 or $20 EACH (since there is a full team alive in the zone)

Penalties & Rewards:
"Direct Deposit" - Kills have a small siphon effect where you take money from the enemy you killed and it's added to your teams total balance.
NOTE: Only kills between players inside the Blitz Zone have siphon effect. ✨Clutch players rejoice✨

"Team wipe" aka "Bankruptcy" - Same as cashout, you loose a percentage of your teams balance if your whole team is dead at the same time.
OR bankruptcy can have a short lock-out effect where a team might not be able to earn for a short period of time after respawning.
("Bankruptcy" might be too much for a casual mode since it makes another variable to calculate mid gunfight. Might but be good for the gamer that wants to just shut their brain off. If they play this and don't care about score tm8s will complain and ruin the mood... Maybe this is an idea for a less casual mode🤷🏾‍♂️)

Match Duration:
The game lasts between 5-10 minutes with the Blitz Zones active for 2-4 minutes each before switching to a new location.

Suggestion:
For all casual modes, turn on auto Re-que. It's a wise decision.

This is a starting point, and all aspects of Blitz are open for discussion and refinement.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

polar halo
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Remove asian server name censors

quick coyote
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Fix your servers or it literally won't matter what you do to this game, they're total ass and your hitreg is a fuckin travesty dude. You can visibly watch 10% of the sniper shots flat out not register, despite coins flying.

glad delta
#

you should just not be able to have 3 of any class period

real scroll
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Can't see the sniper glint when someone is invisible and aiming downsight... either the devs messed up or invisibility + sniper is op

gritty umbra
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heres my list of things the game needs/ is missing after playing 500+ hours

1: ranked matchmaking/progression needs a major overhaul. remove terminal.

2: servers also need work. frequent lag spikes and stuttering, people leaving, teams not being filled.

3: general lack of content makes it hard playing seasons long term. im about to finish the battlepass after off and on playing. also please remove level cap

4: balancing is always wonky. please decide what u want to do with classes and weapons before all skill expression is gutted.

5: custom games browser is needed. just an arcade mode in general, fortnite and overwatch are able to keep you playing for so long because theirs so much different shit to do and ways to play.

6: please for the love of god add more 5v5 modes, choosing bewteen powershift or terminal when you have more than 3 people at any given moment is just not fun

rugged temple
digital plover
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World tour is horrible. You guys just seem want to get rid of cash out. Not only as ranked but suppress it in world tour by limiting the maps. As much as i love the new kyoto map and monaco. Im tired of constantly having to play the maps over and over and over and over. I thought season 3 would be the season you put money into advertising since you made this amazing battle pass but it seems like you guys are dropping the ball. Honestly I'm just ranting. Bring rank cash out back xoxo :) the game is dying and i don't want that :):)

thorn kelp
quick coyote
#

has anyone else started to queue into a match and at the screen where it shows you the map you can hear the match starting in the background while your screen is frozen?

winter vapor
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Almost lost another game becuase two lights swapped to throwing knives, good thing 95% of those who main it due to its extreme OP status are garbage at everything else and just RQ when they lose after the swap.

Its a participation trophy for those who shouldnt be in an fps game at all.

I hope you guys finally listen to the 30 of 30 daily posts that complain about it needing a nerf.

marsh raptor
thick sorrel
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  • The majority would like to play a bad version of ranked cash out over to no ranked cashout at all.

  • Can you please fix finally RPG to lower damage and more spread/weapon sway (at least when hip fire), so it becomes a GADGET instead of a free kill opener with 100% pickrate?

  • Stun Rework Suggestion: Make it full stun, no actions allowed, but the player has to HOLD the Stun Gun, so he can't attack while someone is stunned. This way it's a good team gagdet, but no 1v1 free kill.

  • Winch claw doesn't need damage and stun effect. Make the animation and pull slower. Allow people to counter like shooting the chain for release.

Generally speaking Specializations & Gadgets need to be HELPFUL, not free kills. It's about shooting skills, strategies and not who has the better Q Button!

tall hill
#

Embark seriously needs to do something about the people with slurs in the game names. It's absurdly frequent, nothing is done about reports.

autumn sedge
#

Make snipers not hitscan

eager ivy
#

nah just nerf sniper body damage

dense valve
#

If you queue for a game and u enter someone elses lobby in that 3s time span and the Lobby leader starts a new game while you're ingame you'll leave your current game and join a new one

I feel like this shouldn't be possible cause just now this happened to me I got a lobby request from someone I didn't know I already had in my FL so i thought it was just a friend request and not a lobby invite so I just clicked on accept and so I lost a free win round in TA lol
Also none of my teammates that were in the game I played gained any elo because of that issue (+0 which isn't possible I believe)

wet verge
#

hooks should not be able to pull thru shields, such a bullshit mechanic and also frag indicators would be nice

hidden hatch
#

add deagle for heavy players so they can play long range too

wispy vault
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Game Feedback: If you send screenshots/videos to approve that the same guys abuse a cheater to get high rank, you should not only ban the cheater but the boosted players too (if its proofen that they que with him again and again and abuse it). Iam so confused why its not like that right now? Like people abuse it like crazy.

dim pivot
sturdy abyss
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How about xp buffs in exchange for extra VR tokens

daring fossil
#

can you show peoples career level on the scoreboard please. It would be helpful in weeding out potential bad actors

vapid pine
#

Bring back ranked cashout

autumn sedge
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Due to the bug where you're stuck in the loading menu, I had to rejoin at the beggining of a match. I quit the game, reopened, joined back in the match, and it still cancelled it and game me suspension, even tough I was in the game and could even do things like type in the in-game chat or be in the vc.

keen heath
#

I dont know what it would be but I really hope for a new melee weapon for Lights melee weapons need some more love in this Gun meta world

crystal umbra
#

✨FREE IDEA: "Company System"✨ Day 30

"Hey bro, do you wanna join our company?"

Encourage us to play and make friends. I'm talking about make The Finals about team play (Way too much solo culture in ranked. The Finals is a team game.)

They need to make a "squad" system next season.
For obvious reasons I believe this idea will lead to a exponential engagement effect, let me explain:

"Squads" or "Companies" should be able to select or vote for sponsors:
-Vaiiya
-Volpe
-Engimo
-Ospuze
Etc.

During the season we should be able to grind for "fame" so we can get company drip (cosmetics) for completing these "company contracts".
(Gives me reason to hop back on the game, me and my friends are working towards a goal now. +++ Add Bonus Points for playing with company mates)

This may take the place of circuits but I think my ideas fits the theme of the game-show AND this gives people a reason to play with friends and implore their friends to hop on The Finals with them.

Create specialized cosmetics for these sponsors. Once your company selects one they are locked in for specialized one-time cosmetics.

This creates urgency AND rarity since -for example- the season 4 OSPUZE set will never show up again. (Same for Engimo, Vaiiya, etc.)
Remember, ONLY AVAILABLE FOR ONE SEASON

Top companies (i.e. companies with the most "fame" or money cashed out) are showed on the World Tour leaderboard.
There they should be able to display or link their Twitch and other socials.

✨((MAKE YOUR CONTESTANTS STARS))✨
Appeal to human nature and give us something to talk about amongst ourselves. Give us something to brag about.
"Oh shxt, that's Ottr from 'x' Company".

In real life athletes have sponsor drip, well in The Finals - "The world's greatest game-show" - it's no different.

We get to flex our specialized drop from our favorite sponsors (opportunity to expand the lore)
And the top, most loyal finalists get shout outs.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

rough herald
#

✨ Wow ✨ patch note tomorrow? i sure can't wait for embark to do nothing to ta again hug_friend
||also rpg, can't forget about that||

marsh raptor
#

It would be great to be able to have a higher VR cap, and be able either unlock more xp based cosmetics, or possibly even exchange into multibucks.

quaint hollow
#

Why’s the patch late?

crystal umbra
lament mango
#

Whoever's suggesting Recon to be re-added should automatically lose the discord posting rights

rough herald
brazen fox
#

Not sure if this'll go unnoticed or not, but I really think the game could use a bit more details to really sell the gameshow aspect. Mainly, I wish there was a toggle option to have 'Crowd Cheer' be a thing. I feel like it would be nice as a casual feature to be able to get situation specific feedback from the audience such as a slight "ooooooo" when having survived in a 1v3 situation, or maybe even ninja diffusing in terminal attack. Loud support when wiping another team or applause when placing in a cash out. In tandem with or cycled out with the loud horns that usually play.

Not a serious point of issue or concern with the game, however I simply love the smaller details of this game, and I feel like the audience could 100% help the game feel more authentic with the entire setting of the game show. Thanks for anyone who decides to read and apologies to any of the devs if this actually gets taken into consideration, making you work extra lol.

+++Before I forget, please make merch! I would absolutely love to buy a nama tama plush or a Dissun logo on the back of a shirt. Just saying lol 🙂

plush fjord
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GameMode Idea:
Reactor Rampage. One big reactor (objective) at a random point in the arena. 3 teams of 4. One Fuel Can (same thing as vault in cashout) that appears at random points. Teams have to take it to the reactor to stabilize it. Cos every second each team loses a certain number of cash (at first its zero so it goes to minus). Giving the reactor fuel gives u a certain amount of cash (15000, etc). The team with the lowest number of cash loses. That with the most wins at the end of match. Also if a team loses a certain amount of cash (say 30000) it starts to lose its abilities (eg: if a person has two frag grenades itll now reduce to one, 3 dematerializers reduced to 2). So hurry up!

autumn sedge
#

Mode idea: Capture the flag, 3 teams of 4

quick coyote
#

Game side should change after 5 rounds instead of 7

rough herald
broken geyser
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  1. Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode.

  2. Give more button optimisation for controller players for example triggering something or being able to choose an item with the double tap or triple of a button or swipe on the middle pad of a controller.

  3. More character slots

grim rivet
honest shore
tall hill
stray valley
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my pc dies everytime i leave a match, same w all my tm8s

sudden tangle
#

Empty update where?

rough herald
#

Low Gravity event Fix Suggestion

**Note: **

  • so whats bad about low grav? as a movement player i find low grav very annoying, yeah sure it make hard jump easier and impossible jump now possible but in combat it make jumping a death wish as it make you a very easy target when falling.
    (i have so many clip of me beaming people who use jump pad in low grav)
  • yeah sure thats what it suppose to do but it can be interesting without being annoying

Suggestion:

  • Remove it (boring)
  • Do nothing (lame)
  • Let me control how fast i fall by pressing the crouch button so jumping is now viable, and it make fight more interesting thx to more option of outplaying enemy gamer (pls?)
wary storm
keen shard
#

we need some more voices to choose in the game, i know there is some cosmetics that changes some part but there isnt anything that changes the tone or smth

pseudo latch
#

Day 113 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

Sorry, I’m late, I know, blame @radiant imp he got me into The First Descendant.

stoic cosmos
grave dew
#

there better be an elo RS fix with this update

lime lichen
quick coyote
indigo arch
#

When is The Finals coming to Nintendo Switch (lmao)? Also, is there a VR version planned for the Meta Quest or something

sturdy abyss
#

Where’s the black leopard print camo for the healing gun. The turret has one, sad panda.
Also xp buffs for VR tokens, weapon xp, gadget xp, battle pass xp ect.
Please and thank you 🙏

rose trail
#

I know how they can fix the game, add two ranked modes, and then spend money on marketing this new idea to draw players back, so they actually have a big enough playerbase to do this

rough herald
#

100 damage rpg
and more cl40 direct hit damage

@stuck sentinel light round a corner and get hit with 125 damage leaving him at 25hp, do you think its fair?
i don't mind the damage if its thee same amount of damage as the heavy gun shooting for the same amount of time which is generally 70-100 (guess and gut feeling)

wheat frigate
#

The Finals Skeleton crew is behind schedule with update 🤣

fading flame
#

M11 and xp54 kills in less time than it takes to turn around to shoot back. Maybe lower the damage but increase the health of all lights.

stuck sentinel
hearty birch
echo panther
mossy rose
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can other Players in Asia also add for visibility, Cheating has ramped up In World Tour and TA in Asia server specifically, I suppose the cat and mouse game between dev and Chinese cheat sellers. Please ramp up detection rules around aim bots 🙂 Thank you

wicked tiger
manic plover
#

Hello Embark I got a problem : I lost my account.
How it happend : I went on my Xbox to link my pc account to my Xbox account from my Xbox, I accidently created an account ON xbox and I linked my e-mail from my pc account to my Xbox account, so my pc account got unlinked from my mail. When I reconnected to steam and started the game I had a brand new account level 1. Can you help me reconnect to my account again ? I got proof that it's mine through clips of me and my friend (he got the clips) and the embark account is also link to my twitch account.
Thank you for your time
my account name was : POUF_ZZZ

violet elbow
obsidian solar
#

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
  • Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
  • Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
  • Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

  • When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
  • Remove the fov zoom in and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.
  • Pyro grenades "stick" to the shield and burn the player forever, making it also impossible to see

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

  • Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

  • Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam
green geode
#

map rotation in world tour doesnt work, just not enough maps for it gets old so dast

lean notch
#

The after match screen freezes for so long that it even crashes the steam sdk

lament heron
#

where is the update?

dry raft
pseudo breach
#

Day 89 of asking for South African servers

wheat aspen
royal kettle
rotund oxide
#

Flak Jacket Gadget for people who are adamant on nerfing RPG and Mines. Reduced explosive damage. (Separate healthbar?)

upbeat lake
#

We need more options for crosshair customizations.

stuck rock
#

terminal attack, more like terminal brain rot. get this shit game mode out of the ranked section

grim sand
stable plinth
topaz seal
#

weird thing happened where there was like an invisible wall on 1 team in tournament, all items would get stuck in air

wind hemlock
#

Lmao they still haven't fixed the crashing bugs. These devs are actually useless

vast obsidian
#

Why hasn't it been updated?

red echo
#

The game doesn't have enough gamemodes to be consistant, i have an idea for a new one since the game is lacking of them. i can be a 3v3v3 or a 5v5 were someone has like a token or something that generates money over time, and to take the token you have to kill the person who has it and at the end of the timer or at a certain amount the team wins.

burnt notch
# pseudo latch Day 113 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization...

Day 2 of seconding this

Begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD
fading flame
#

Fix oceanic severs cos Australia have terrible wifi and Asia makes the game stutter and every input has a massive delay. Every now and again you can find one but most of the time I find myself in an Asian server because I wait for a game for half an hour

rough herald
#

if its a nothing patch again i swear to god im uninstalling this game

royal kettle
#

Fix the infinite loading screen. I can hear I’m in a match but the loading screen won’t go. It’s been in the game for weeks, honestly pathetic.

shy anchor
modest warren
#

the embark staff who look at all the shit that is written to them and do nothing!!!! where am I? what are they doing? the game is dying

warped torrent
#

Terminal attack North American queue it's terrible I'm waiting over 30 minutes for a game.

pseudo breach
worn sigil
#

Please fix the server issues while your taking a break from releasing the shop & challenges update, so tmoz is a bigger one

left jetty
#

Make the sr-84 sniper into a projectile instead of hitscan. Weapon is way too easy to rack up damage for people that want to shoot at players and not get shot at back. Weird to me that you'll make the ks-23 a hard hitting projectile weapon but not the sr-84.

raven topaz
#

Add info what game my friend is playing and how far into the game to know if I should wait, also add chat in lobby and let me join or request to join friend's lobby. Let me invite friends if I'm not the party leader so he doesn't have to add them

vernal path
#

Counter to sniper at TA. Medium will get 2 healing syringes. For own use or teammates. 💉🏥

shy parcel
#

nerf db

frosty juniper
high smelt
#

compensation for not rushing a buggy update would be like a less buggy update

dusty perch
#

pls let us know the problem, why this update is coming out late...
i just want to know...

wide mortar
#

remove terminal attack from ranked or add cashout back

keen lily
#

idk what you did but the game is unplayable now with the lag I never had before since beta!

barren cedar
#

Embark quality : How to transform a good game to BS game

lime lichen
#

If you want all weapons to do health percentage instead of numbers then what's the point of there even being different health pools at that point? Say a weapon does 25% health then it's a 4 tap on everyone regardless of how many hit points they have. Health percentage based weapon are pointless with classes designed around different health pools

marble creek
red echo
#

add a gravity shuriken like titanfall 2

worn tapir
#

give us free animated akm skin because of delay

shy anchor
#

The biggest problem with making things percentage based is that it makes the different classes having different health pools a mute point

drifting pawn
#

I believe this may be an incorrect translation for "Qualified". Clasificado is Classified. Qualified would be Calificado (Spanish) or Qualificado (Portuguese)

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brisk valve
#

may i suggest a gadget for the game? i think it would be really useful if the heavy had a gadget that reinforced walls so that they are not able to be broken through. it wouldnt be too over powered but allow more strategic fortifying. since heavy is the fortify/defense class. it would be far stronger THAN WEAK ASS GOO

jade ingot
lime lichen
jagged knot
hybrid dock
#

Anybody able to confirm if embark has finally given up on the finals? The shop has been “store fresh soon” for three days and the circuit contracts keep getting pushed back. Would be more than happy to hear I’m no longer able to waste any more time on this stupid franchise

sullen wolf
#

Or how about them ruining ranked

oblique spindle
sullen ridge
broken geyser
#

  1. Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode.

  2. Give more button optimisation for controller players for example triggering something or being able to choose an item with the double tap or triple of a button or swipe on the middle pad of a controller.

  3. More character slots

untold cypress
#

Since S3 I haven't played a game of QC with less than 5-6 lights...it's getting really old.

vernal swallow
#

what under the radar bug that you found last minute is so bad that it takes a whole day to fix?? I mean if you “found it right as you were about to push the button” then it can’t be that game breaking right? just release the update later today instead of tomorrow

also let me reorder teams in custom matches

unreal fossil
earnest sierra
storm siren
#

played a quick cash game after not playing since 1st week of season 3, this is the game mode im here to play not some shit version of Valorant

thorn kelp
hybrid dock
drifting pawn
#

Remove TA from ranked before game's dead

restive crescent
naive crest
#

the anime skin should make your whole outfit cell shaded
even your gun, maybe

plush wren
untold cypress
formal willow
#

nerf glitch traps, or atleast increase hitbox size

narrow owl
#

There are people that can’t play your game. You focus on skins and balance changes. We need Embark to focus on crashes, freezing, auto throw, non-use of weapons, etc. We would gladly take a week with no skins or balance changes in order for you to get your game in a working state.

clear hemlock
manic steppe
#

3 Games in a row ranked TA people leave or DC round 1 and the game doens't cancel. What a fun game to be locked in for the last 3 hours playing with a disadvantage. This game mode is horrible I am only playing it to get some skins and I don't think I can do it. The punishment for leaving a ranked game should be a day suspension.

split pilot
#

ban russians

thorn kelp
hidden hatch
#

instead of cashout can we have freak out

verbal isle
#

OK i have to file a complaint.
I played power shift and saw how 2 heavies pushed platform with spear much faster than its intended.
Recorded a video. Will publish it on youtube latter

raven topaz
#

again i report 5 people and get rematched against same 5, good game

waxen grove
#

Store update says 2 days 👀

last swift
#

4 games in a row, casual TA, somebody leaves in the first 10 seconds and the game ends. There’s gotta be larger penalties for leaving. It’s such an unenjoyable experience and waste of time queuing, finally getting into a game, and then having to leave and do it over again.

daring fossil
# earnest sierra delaying the update fixing a bug is better than releasing the update with the bu...

the game literally has dozens of annoying and even gamebreaking bugs that have existed in the game since launch and still aren't fixed. Even ones that were fixed but regressed and still haven't been fixed again after months. Hell, I would prefer they fixed the absolute trash that the servers have been lately with destruction freezing the entire server for multiple seconds and terrible hitreg that was bad at launch and has been getting progressively worse since.

young smelt
cosmic ether
grizzled rose
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This is what terminal attack did to your game ❤️

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earnest sierra
# daring fossil the game literally has dozens of annoying and even gamebreaking bugs that have e...

well a game breaking bug is a bug that makes the game totally unplayable, can't think of bugs like this in this game other than 2 the loading screen bug and the kyoto destruction lag and it's not that bad actually

if you have any performance issue it's a driver issue not from embark or their servers :) head to #1202523797643595818

for the loading screen bug it's really annoying and bad but i don't think the devs is sleeping to not notice it but we don't know how hard it is to fix assuming you aren't even a programmer so you don't have any idea how bug fixing really work it's so hard and complicated and time consuming because it's not just a press of a button or flipping a switch and boom bug fixed, no it's not like that so we really have to be patient with it because i know how frustrating it is to have a bug and spend too much time just trying to figure out what causes it, game have thousands of codes if not millions considering their work on the dynamic destruction.

report it to them if they said they're aware of it then it's really hard to fix but they trying their best we all know that embark have put really too much effort and made this game with passion for making something different and better unlike games like cod where literally they copy the base game and edit some stuff and add new skins and ui and here it is another cod game lol

brisk garden
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I miss the rest of the maps in cashout. World Tour/Ranked TA was such a bad change. I miss S2 so much

smoky gust
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i really hope winch claw is getting a change soon
being forcefully misplaced and often killed because of it feels so bad

daring fossil
# earnest sierra well a game breaking bug is a bug that makes the game totally unplayable, can't ...

Game breaking bugs:

  • healing beam stops working for some people for entire matches
  • Being unable to fire your weapon randomly until you die
  • not being able to do anything (fire weapons, throw grenades etc) and it's random when it starts working again.
  • not being able to pick up objects (your character drops them automatically as soon as you pick it up, includes cash box) for the entire match
  • Cashouts showing on a different floor or location than where it's physically located making it seem like the cashout won't take the box, when in reality you just have to insert it where the cashout actually is and then it will visually teleport back to where it should be
  • server freezing for 1-2 seconds multiple times a match FOR EVERYONE in the server (not a PC performance issue) and doesn't matter the map.
  • 15/30 bullets in a magazine not registering/throwing knives impacting and doing no damage/right-click on spear and other melee weapons not connecting
  • steal alarm only going off for 1.5 seconds and then the cashout is stolen
  • loading screen bug (which im almost certain is related to the power saving/frame cap options they added to the game)
  • constant UE5 crashes for some people
  • being shot 5 feet behind a wall because the interpolation/prediction/tick rate is shit.
  • gas barrels teleporting when you pick them up, or showing you holding nothing and then when you throw it, it blows up in your face OR it blows up in your face just holding it (this one was fixed months ago, regressed a few weeks later and hasn't been fixed since.
  • players being permanently highlighted for the rest of matches from recon grenades
  • players being perma-invisible for entire matches because of vanish bombs
  • mines and other deployables/throwables disappearing after you throw them, and then reappearing after enemies already ran passed them.

All of these problems have been reported multiple times.

I have no performance issues with the game except on Kyoto which drops frames to under 50 sometimes during destruction (which is different from the server freezing bug). I play the game at maxed settings with maxed RT with DLAA (no upscaling) and get 110-165 fps depending on the map (kyoto performs the worst)

mighty brook
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Half the people here are entitled, spoiled brats. "I WANT MY CHOCO TREATS NOWWW!" Don't forget this is f2p and one of if not the only FPS game to get weekly updates like we do. Go back to playing CoD or Apex and experience the same stale meta for months.

thorn kelp
main knot
gusty ice
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i got insta killed because i got clawed from under the platfrom and the platform kills me insta, so dont make the platform to do damage

earnest sierra
# daring fossil Game breaking bugs: - healing beam stops working for some people for entire mat...

since you was able to remember all these issues and bugs take a moment to know how bug fix works and how hard it is, most of these bugs haven't happened with me at all and some of them happened only once such as the vanish bomb bug, some of them happen very rarely, but MOST importantly no one have any idea how to replicate any of these bugs every single game

you know what really makes a game bug fixing very hard? that the players just says "uhhmm this bug happened to me where I'm invisible for the entire game" and just doesn't provide any further information, how it happened? any video? you know how to do it again in another match or not? any useful thing?? no, so the devs will spend hours if not days trying so hard to make the bug happen in a real match or a sandbox game with the console opened to determine how the bug happened and what causes it, and as a regular player some of these bugs happen very very rarely and no one knows or even provide a video of the bug happening or any steps to replicate it, so the devs will literally spend days trying to replicate the bug somehow randomly to be able to fix and look into the code and fix it carefully to not break anything else, and for you to know how rare these bugs happen i will say what bugs happened with me from all what you mentioned(i have 1000 hour spent in this game, so i have more than enough hours for every bug to happen with me right?)

1.healing beem bug didn't happen with me since season 2, so months ago, so it's not regular and it's random.

2.unable to fire bug happens more often but it's random too so it's hard to replicate.

3.not being able to do anything, doesn't happen randomly and i was able to trigger it but i lost the video when i was able to replicate it unfortunately but it's not a random bug and I'm trying to figure out how to trigger it again so i can report it in details and hopefully they'll fix it within a week.

4.not being able to pickup objects. it only happens with me randomly but it just happens once and i can pickup the object when it drops.

5.cashout showing in a diff location never happened with me

6.freezing never happened with me

7.bullets not registering never happened but it happened with me for projectiles but it's not regular.

8.steal alarm never happened with me it's normal

9.loading screen is more regular and I'm sure they're working on it

10.UE5 crashes is more often to be user issue

11.I'm also suffering from desync but we can't do anything and it's complicated to fix from server side but it's possible, and there's people who have more knowledge explained why it happens.

12.gas barrels with they just dissappear for 2 seconds when i pick them but they appear again and i can throw them normally, so it's totally random.

13.sonar bugs are so random and not regular i maybe have seen them 5 times since season 1.

14.vanish bomb happened to me only once since i started playing so it's rare to happen and random.

15.mines bugs have happened with me at all

just saying this so you have an idea of how random theae bugs is and how random they're from player to player and how rare they're to happen even i have played more than 1000 hour in this game i didn't have the same exact bugs in the same exact things as other players with gas barrels for example, so please don't be this ignorant :)

rough herald
lilac mango
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Either get me a teammate in the 16 minute span of the match or give teams that are down a member some sort of buff like extra health and faster revive speed. It's ridiculous that I won't get a teammate in the entire span of the game.

daring fossil
# earnest sierra since you was able to remember all these issues and bugs take a moment to know h...

I have 1300+ hours in the game since alpha. Some of these bugs don't happen to me either (like healing beam or UE5 crashes) that doesn't mean they don't exist or shouldn't be a priority. I literally troubleshoot for a living so I understand how hard it is to replicate things, but the fact that a lot of these have been in the game for 8 months (or longer) is fucking crazy. Calling me ignorant is also fucking crazy

viscid tundra
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PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD LEWIS AND NERF PISTOL DAMMIT

untold cypress
scarlet jetty
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This Weapon should be BANNED in Power Swift if we want a FAIR game and not FRUSTRATING/BORING.

icy kestrel
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Embark please.........The Finals has its lowest active player count of all time now........... REVERT THE RANKED CAHNGES, remove Terminal Attack, bring back cashout ranked, make Kyoto map smaller..........you can still change it!!!!

celest tree
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When bikini update

earnest sierra
# daring fossil I have 1300+ hours in the game since alpha. Some of these bugs don't happen to m...

well I'm fucking surprised that you say this because ofc if they know how to replicate these bugs and monitor them they'll be able to fix in a day or two and test the fix in a day and make sure everything is okay in other days and release it with the upcoming update, but no they have no damn idea how to do them so they have no fkn idea how they happen or what cause them so they don't have any damn idea how to fix them or troubleshot what part of millions of lines of codes to fix the bug that they don't know what cause it, or should they just edit anything thing and hope that it fixes the bug so it make things worse?? I'm fucking surprised that you fix bugs for living and say "they been in the game for 8 months or longer is fucking crazy" well if you're infront of millions lines of code and you have no damn idea what cause the bug would you be able to fix it without knowing anything about it other than the bug itself would you really be able to fix it even in years?? i fucking doubt it

and i guess since you fix bugs so you at least have an idea of how random bugs can be, how would you know that the bug in the UI interface is caused by a problem with the backend server in a line that have nothing related or connected to the ui? fucking frustrating right? well that's how fucking annoying coding and bug fixing is, IT'S FUCKING RANDOM, if you're able to replicate any bug or know how to trigger them and you reported it to the devs and they didn't fix it then you have all the right to say that the bug have been around for a year or so and devs didn't fix it so you can say that they're killing the game or lazy or whatever bug since every bug is a mystery and random and the amount of tech they have implemented in the code it's unlikely to fuck around the code blindly and hope it fix the mystery bug, especially when different kinds of bugs happens with the same object in the game such as the gas barrel bug you said that they travel and explode if you throw them but in my case they just disappear for 2 seconds then come back normally and it only happens if i picked it up while have fast pace from a jump or zipline, so even individually the same object doesn't have the same exact bug, and while no one reported how it happened, how should they know how the fuck they're supposed to fix it?

haughty niche
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give sword back gadget swapping or introduce a new way of expressing skill. nerf charge dmg

(let me clarify. i want a higher skill ceiling for the weapon not to change its place in the meta i want more and hard mechanics)

rugged temple
steel quest
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This might be a hot take but as a sword player myself, given the great deal of damage sword does, the balance we now have for the weapon is just fine

visual jackal
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yea ive had hits and misses with the sword i dont think it needs changes, if anything i think other weapons should be looked into for changes

torpid sky
daring fossil
# earnest sierra well I'm fucking surprised that you say this because ofc if they know how to rep...

that's not my problem. I never said I fixed bugs, I said I troubleshoot for a living. It's the fact that they have been in the game for 8 months or longer. They get lots of videos showing the bug, with match ID's so they should have the data for that match which should help pinpoint it. I never said they are ruining the game by not fixing these bugs. The original message was that people were upset the patch was delayed, you said "delaying is better than releasing with the bug" I was just pointing out how many game breaking bugs have existed in the game since launch so why would releasing the patch with a single bug found last minute be such a big deal? You're completely missing the point of my response and writing paragraphs for no reason.

pseudo latch
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Day 114 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD
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prisma remnant
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For the love of god, penalize people who leave games..

clever hawk
# smoky gust i really hope winch claw is getting a change soon being forcefully misplaced and...

This was my suggested nerf to Winch Claw:

“Winch Claw feels amazing to use - so please don’t gut it - but can feel terrible to play against because it can so easily become an inevitable and inescapable death, especially for L/M classes.

WC should not be a free effective oneshot, like old Roadhog. It should be a displacement tool - for players and objects - that aids CQB but doesn’t grant it excessive power.

The best way to nerf its effectiveness against players without harming its object utility would be to prevent it from pulling players any closer than, say, 6m. This would give winched players the space and opportunity to more effectively fight back or flee without instantly suffering extreme damage.

It would remove the KS + Melee oneshot combo, the easy and extreme SA12 bursting, and the often inescapable melee death. All of which are the most oppressive and frustrating elements for opposing players.

The commonly suggested nerf of reducing its maximum range would not address these oppressive aspects and would hurt its utility when it comes to objects such as cashouts, revive totems, etc.

It would also still allow Mesh Shield to be of some use to the winched player given some distance would be maintained between the two players, as opposed to the current iteration which is simply a hard counter.”

young hamlet
sudden tangle
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Embark. If you did NOTHING for s3, it would have been a more enjoyable season. Removing ranked cashout is the single dumbest thing I've seen happen in video games.

vagrant pecan
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if they wanted to change modes for ranked shoulda just done powershift. over half the ranked games in TA someone just backs out in the first 10 seconds leading to another 5-10 minute que. just a horrible horrible decision on embarks part. live and learn

cyan crane
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So i came across this and i can't tell if it's a bug or a genuine way of cheating. He had more kills than anyone else and didn't seem to get shot as much so. Also invisible without cloak. (don't mind the fps i used windows to trim the clip)

main knot
smoky gust
# clever hawk This was my suggested nerf to Winch Claw: “Winch Claw feels amazing to use - so...

im not sure if only pulling to 6 meters would be enough

it would prevent the worst of the worst with flame, sledge and spear
but it still displaces you and lines you up for an easy hit
it can still pull you out of a semi save and or fortified position, which would still be frustrating

id rather have it pull you, but if you walk backwards you stay in place
someone that's not paying attention will probably not have enough reaction time and is an easy grab
but if you put a little care into it, its fairly easy to counter
but even if the enemy can counter it, it still helps with close range engagements, if you hit someone and they try to run you can winch them to keep them in place to secure the kill

The commonly suggested nerf of reducing its maximum range would not address these oppressive aspects and would hurt its utility when it comes to objects such as cashouts, revive totems, etc.
but i absolutely agree with this
we need to nerf it in some way that doesn't hurt its useful and non-frustrating aspects

jagged knot
sick crest
raven topaz
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400m only headshots prefire with ak still super hard to detect, just good aim (im invis btw)

sinful valve
supple stirrup
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I'd love more options with custom servers, needing at least 3 players to start a match is particularly frustrating to me cause im tryna make a yt vid and use the spectator mode to get cinematic shots (open to anyone willing to help with this just send a friend req) also choosing map events or settings like the time of day or weather also be amazing

urban marsh
daring fossil
# clever hawk This was my suggested nerf to Winch Claw: “Winch Claw feels amazing to use - so...

I agree, Winch Claw currently is basically heavies version of launch stun gun, but even more annoying. Literally the only counter to it is dash if you're light (I use grapple which has a travel delay so you are dead before you can grapple anything), or bounce pad if you happen to have it out already when you get grabbed.

@cyan crane this is a bug/exploit with the vanish bomb, it can happen to all classes, I mentioned it a few scrolls up in my list of game breaking bugs since launch. It's fairly easy for dash lights to exploit.

lilac mango
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If world tour stays for Season 4, I'd like a return of CNS for just one stop. Something like "CNS Syntax" or something, not sure how it would go. The main idea behind it is that it would introduce a limited time variant of all the maps which would have bits and pieces of SYS$ HORIZON just slammed down in the map in place of normal buildings (like having Horizon "infect" the other maps) which I think would look pretty sick. Could be followed up with a VAIIYA stop which would have random parts of the map have that red grid effect on the buildings, but idk, I just think it'd be cool.

rocky dawn
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Please bring back cashout ranked. Or make world tour ranked go up to diamond. Terminal attack is just like all the other 5v5 obj games. It’s what made the game so fun. I’ve not played at all really this season, after being diamond last season because of this reason. The cosmetics and maps are SO good, but please, bring back cashout for ranked. Or at least give us the option

silent flume
smoky gust
opal scarab
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Entfernt sbmm ihr Idioten

clever hawk
# smoky gust im not sure if only pulling to 6 meters would be enough it would prevent the wo...

I don’t think the displacement itself is excessively problematic, both in terms of effectiveness and frustration.

It’s the extreme proximity of that displacement that puts you right in front of the Heavy that’s the problem. That’s what enables the excessive burst damage and effective oneshots.

It pulling you ~6m away would help the Heavy land shots but it would be far from the near-guaranteed kill that it currently is. This is desirable imo. It’s useful but not oppressive. And don’t forget that unlike basically every other Specialization, if you miss with the Winch you get negative value from it, as it prevents you from firing for ~1s.

Being able to counter the displacement would totally nullify it in high skill lobbies. And that’s where it’s at its strongest as lesser/average players are not landing every Winch.

sick crest
# opal scarab Entfernt sbmm ihr Idioten

I don't think that will help, Skill based match making (SBMM) is better for smaller teams, the finals is based around small teams, at most 5, and the core game mode is 3. Big team games like TF2 can get away with out skill based matchmaking because the lesser skilled players will be much less a burden on the teams when they are just 1/12 people, but when you are 1/3 you are far more responsible for the teams screw ups. It is hard to get a fair match without SBMM in a small team game. But it would be fun Idea to add large team modes and have no SBMM, like just good old team fight 12v12 or power shift on steroids with two platforms 12v12, but so far the game can only do 12 people in a match at most, so doubling that to have large team game modes would be hard on servers I bet. also the use of german made me laugh 😎

hidden hatch
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give the heavy a deagle pistol so they can play long range heavy damage too

smoky gust
# clever hawk I don’t think the displacement itself is excessively problematic, both in terms ...

no, the displacement itself is very much an issue

i happen to have a good clip on hand to demonstrate
the enemies are all very close to each other, im kind of trying to keep my distance so that i can retreat if need be, my teammate also happens to be there for support

but due to winch claw i am punished for existing in the heavies line of sight, immediately separated from my teammate and am now directly in between all 3 enemies
(i am aware that my weapon choice is sub-optimal for this kind of situation, but realistically, what weapon could've saved me here?)
even if i were only pulled to 6 meters away, i would have been way out of cover and laser'ed to death incredibly quickly

i don't think it would suffer in high elo with a nerf
it is most often used with limited range weapons, which aren't being used there as far as im aware
alongside still having very good utility which could (and should) be buffed to compensate

and even if not
id rather have an option that is unviable for the top 5%, than have it make the game unfun for everyone else

manic plover
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UPDATE ON MY LOST ACCOUNT:
Hello Embark I got a problem : I lost my account.
How it happend : I went on my Xbox to link my pc account to my Xbox account from my Xbox, I accidently created an account ON xbox and I linked my e-mail from my pc account to my Xbox account, so my pc account got unlinked from my mail. When I reconnected to steam and started the game I had a brand new account level 1. Can you help me reconnect to my account again ? I got proof that it's mine through clips of me and my friend (he got the clips) and the embark account is also link to my twitch account.
Thank you for your time
my account name was : POUF_ZZZ

UPDATE : I just saw now that if your embark account is not link to any account it deletes it and I unlinked my steam account from my account BUT It is still linked to twitch and It is not deleted since you can see me on the scoreboard so is there a way I can connect to my account from twitch ?
Btw the account still exist I see it in the leaderboard still is there anyways someone could give me a way to log back in ?
@subtle solar

lofty basalt
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something is wrong, this past couple weeks my fps is dropping to like 40 at times. It's impossible to play.

I have a 5900X and 6900XT, i've never had such low fps on this game before. I've rolled back my gpu drivers but still having the same problem. Anyone else experiencing anything similar?

peak pine
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Shutup! Ain't nobody listening lol

kindred girder
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this matchmaking i scrazy gold and plats should not be able to que with rubies. and silvers, what are yall doing with this matchmaking???

nova osprey
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Rework the rpg to do 50 damage, and have two shots, with a higher AOE but it does more damage to the arena. Then, replace the rpg with a laser cannon, that does the same damage the old rpg did, so 140-150, and make it charge up for about 4-5 seconds, and a much smaller AOE, so you have a higher chance to miss

daring fossil
clever hawk
# smoky gust no, the displacement itself is very much an issue i happen to have a good clip ...

Without reliable displacement it would be totally useless. Especially in high skill lobbies (which is more than just the top 5%) but also just in general. It’s not a problem in of itself, the proximity is.

In your clip, if you stopped ~6m away from him you would either fall into that hole or be able to take 1 step backwards to fall into it. It changes everything.

You weren’t punished just for existing in his LOS, you were punished by landing directly at the feet of a Heavy with an SA12 (which is a limited range weapon). Which is why you went from 345 HP to 0 in 2 seconds, with said SA12 dealing 228 (66%) of that damage.

When facing a displacement tool you can also utilise cover or movement in an attempt to dodge, neither of which were used here.

Besides that, there’s nothing spectacular about the use of the Winch in this clip. All Specializations have moments of great use vastly exceeding it.

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south mauve
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thank you for fixing the accidental cash box drop when youre on controller trying to get onto a zipline 🙏🙏🙏🙏

deep summit
hybrid dock
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Does anyone else not hear enemy footsteps period? I feel like I’ve touched just about every setting in the audio menu and my teammates steps are still way louder than the enemy

upper citrus
untold willow
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pls buff recoil on Lewis Gun, i get that you wanted to nerf the damage but it feels rly shit to use now. Return the old recoil or new recoil pattern that dosnt sway so much left to right, like it could be a lot vertical and maybe sways eventually to either the left or right.

grizzled cairn
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Please put all maps to "worldtour" it is so boring with 3 Maps

haughty niche
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give sword back gadget swapping or introduce a new way of expressing skill. nerf charge dmg

daring fossil
# upper citrus it desperately needs a spin up animation

the heavy should yell "get over here!" and then throw the winch, so everyone in ear shot hears the call and has a second to react. maybe he could be spinning the winch like a lasso getting ready to toss it while he yells. I think for me that would solve the frustration of just being yanked out of your skull randomly in the middle of a fight without warning. (just like how a heavy can swap to RPG and kill you before you even see him pull out the RPG, please embark slow down the weapon swap speed for RPG or something)

@smoky gust ^?

hardy bridge
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all i hear is babies crying about some random bullshit issue because they suck this community is one reason why the game is dying

thorn kelp
remote valley
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Anyway we can lower the audience?

sick crest
icy monolith
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i think as an option would be a perfect compromise

jagged cedar
jaunty jungle
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a presets option for our outfit sets will be handi ❤️

quick coyote
smoky gust
# clever hawk Without reliable displacement it would be totally useless. Especially in high sk...

i mean, grabbing statues is impactful, getting objects from a distance is niche but useful, moving the cashout station can be incredible
if buffed to perhaps also destroy buildings it would probably not need the displacement and be useful all on its own

im not quit sure about the distance, but i do think 6 meters is less than you assume, even if it had pulled me just in front of the hole, i would probably have taken a good bunch of damage
taking extra care to stay away just to pulled into someones effective range (even if just 6 meters) feels bad

i was attempting to stand back and utilize the cover
if i had known he would winch i would have tried to dodge it
but it took him less than a second to winch me, thats barely enough to notice it, let alone react to it (to get to cover for example), especially with how fast it is
like remove ta said, a spin up would have been good here

and like, obviously everything has moments where it shines
but its possible to make it shine without frustrating those on the other end, which is a state we should strive for

maybe your 6 meter suggestion would work, i dont know that
id love to try it, as long as something happens

humble sinew
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make the dashes longer

rugged temple
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Dashes are fine as is

upper citrus
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Make dash not give in air inaccuracy

tropic swift
autumn bison
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give Lights 6 dashes but a 10% chance per dash to trip and fall

tawdry tree
teal bear
daring fossil