👂┇game-feedback

[deep summit]

• Remove Terminal Attack (The push game mode is x10 better than your version of Counter Strike)
• If you insist of having Terminal Attack at least make the RS system fair, I'd lose with a high rank team that performs so poorly and I lose -1k+ RS for that, not my fault you can't put players in their respected ranks, not boost them.
• If I solo queue I shouldn't go up against a 3,4 or 5 stack, it should only be other solo queue players
• Play Test your game, none of these issues would be present if you did play testing (You can die off spawn in Terminal Attack)
• Add regular ranked
• Better Anti Cheat (DMA Bypasses Easy Anti - Cheat, that's why you have a cheater epidemic)
• Balance
• Skill Based Match Making (Why is there unranked/bronze playing with/against diamonds in ranked)
• A lot of unranked players are cheaters, they ruin ranked for everyone else and once they get banned they make a new account,** Better Anti Cheat or IP Ban is the only solution **
• Remove snipers and melee's <3

Reply to Fikolas, play ranked terminal attack you'd agree with me

Reply to Distortion, IP bans are vital for F2P games cheater problems, they will keep making accounts with no repercussions, this helps even a little

[spark fulcrum]

Got kicked in final round due to game issues - know got banned for 8 minutes love it 😄 just bring CashOut ranked back.

[honest siren]

A few people agreed with me in ⁠⚡┇the-finals-chat , so i thought i would put this here, even if this channel doesnt even get read by anyone important. if anybody wants to talk about this more I think it would be an elegant solution to a problem many of us face.

The issue with terminal attack could be completely solved by simply splitting them (cashout and terminal attack) into respective ranked game modes. I think it wouldnt be bad to have both of them in the game at the same time.

Many people enjoy terminal attack and it could bring players in, but for the majority of players that are complaining, the problem could be solved, not by completely reverting the choice, but just bringing back ranked tournament. It could be the best of both worlds.

The queue times wouldnt be worse either, because if you like TA you probably arent big on cashout, and cashout players really dont like TA

This is a repost, i seriously dont know where else to put this if I want it to be seen.

[pseudo leaf]

sniper nerf meaning = just useable in range if some one is closer then 50 meters you run. I play sniper in ranked TA and I am around 480.

[worldly fox]

I’m gonna pass by here a second time. Why do I get punished for winning in every single power shift match where I get queued next match with all light players?

[quick coyote]

IP bans are useless because you can just get a new one every 24 hours.

[paper oak]

buff the revolver with 2+ dmg or make it shoot faster like fan the hammer.

[lofty gate]

Embark I love THE FINALS. I know that you pull in millions from this game. So where did you get these Fisher-Price servers? Walmart? idc where you have your servers, but replace them. They could be Linode instances for all I care. But come on. Pull it together

[quiet frost]

I really love this fuckin idea

[iron berry]

goo grenades, barricades, dome shield, goo barrels

[lavish shard]

Stop buff damage all weapon the finals is not call of duty

[severe linden]

Just had a Bank It game that ended after I joined… This is fun :)(:

[onyx widget]

Hello Finals devs, nerf throwing knives or else :)

[wispy sand]

Give us ranked without the tournament crap. So I can finally get above room temperature IQ team mates and not be forced to wait for other teams to finish games or more than 30 seconds between matches. The load screen and then bam into the action and its ranked and easy and simple. Thank you.

NPCs have the time to spare waiting around scrolling tiktok between matches.

[sullen apex]

I played The Finals Beta to play The Finals Competitively. I played Season 1 to play The Finals Competitively. I played Season 2 to play The Finals Competitively.

Why am I now being forced to play CS2/VAL for the Competitive Gamemode when I want to play The Finals Competitively?

Give me my Ranked Mode back. The whole point of The Finals was what made it unique.

[crystal storm]

Heavy:

• RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 80
• Winch hook > remove from game, or rework it completely
• Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 1000 to 750
• M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters
• Lewis gun > clean up the recoil pattern to be less aggressive horizontally
• Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you cant instantly kill M's, reduce cooldown

Medium:

• Recon senses > rework to be a single ping like recon nades but originating from the player. 3 charges with a pretty long recovery time.
• Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.3s so it doesnt instantly shoot
• Defib > Remove invincibility time after getting ressed
• FCAR > revert to S1 for recoil/dmg but lower fire rate slightly
• FAMAS > Increase damage drop off range

Light:

• Dash > Add a short cooldown, close to around 1 second

• Throwing daggers > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance, boost initial velocity

• LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate slightly

• 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

• DB > lower damage to S2 damage

• V9S > Lower fire rate but increase damage (1 less shot to kill)

• Explosive mines > damage from multi mines exploding from different sources sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 80.

• Remove aim assist for melee weapons while playing with keyboard and mouse.

• Cash-out should periodically give cash over time in a couple of instances, holding an objective for 90% and then getting it stolen should NOT go without reward.

• Add a "Quick use" option that lets you instantly use some equipment, like thermal vision, dematerialiser, jump pad, APS etc

• Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently, you cant balance the game for TA and CO at the same time, one will always suffer.

[sonic spoke]

The season 3 notes specifically started it was a filler while they adjusted the real desired competitive mode of cashout.

[crystal umbra]

This idea really fuckin loves you too bro.

[quasi furnace]

the finals is so unplayable rn

[astral bobcat]

npc take

[quick coyote]

And in the meantime, the game dies.

[iron berry]

Emote in lobby

[slow lark]

Can we have the ability to adjust the opacity of the objective markers in the game? It's hard to see enemies especially those who are shooting at me when there's a massive 🅱️ in my face

[light widget]

this game would be ace if it worked.

[upper citrus]

Everybody knows this, that doesn’t make it a good decision. It’s doing permanent damage to the player count every day. Core players are leaving because of the change and casual players are leaving too because the core players that switch over to WT are infesting casual lobbies and every game is a shit stomp. Ranked TA was a terrible idea

[subtle oak]

Really good idea.
Maybe one issue might be a lot of people will choose the same company because it will have the coolest looking outfit available.
Other than that great suggestion, this sounds very nice.

[icy obsidian]

every game of terminal attack i play when attacking, i cannot see the keys location, i can see it physically, there just is no indicator of its location when im not looking right at it. no matter if i reset the game or anything.

+i cant comment in Bug reports because this servers rank system requires me to be a certain lvl, so i just just post all the bugs in here till then.

[sharp summit]

gotta love the ranking system

[nocturne sand]

I don’t necessarily think sniper needs a nerf but if that’s a popular opinion I recommend implementing idle sway and a hold breath mechanic like in cod.

Adding flinch would probably made it unusable since the light’s health pool is so small but that could be an option if not overdone

Regarding balancing, I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again, stop nerfing guns that people like into the ground and instead make other guns better and have them fill a niche

Famas should be better at range but currently is so far outclassed by the other ARs it’s just unusable

Revert FCAR to being the niche higher precision, higher damage, lower ammo capacity instead of being basically another AK

Rn in each class like 80% of the weapon choices are not competitively viable, bring them up to speed so players can choose any gun and have it be viable / have different advantages so the meta doesn’t get stale

[stone hazel]

it's actually crazy how buggy canisters stil are after the game being out for half a year
theyre constantly throwing right as i pick them up when i dont click throw
or failing to pick up properly and then blowing up in your hand when your screens shows you arent even holding it

[faint flame]

You lost and they are worse than you this is beyond fair.

[true karma]

if you put down a jump pad and immediately pick up a throwable afterwards you drop it 100% of the time

[oak flame]

server icon fix for koyoto would be nice, or atleast to be able to disable the icons altogether

[quick coyote]

ghost canisters too. Lemme just pick up this barrel real quick. okay lemme try again. one more time. headshot dead lol

[silent fog]

Are they aware of the thermal vision glitch? Not sure if its just on Kyoto but it happened to me there. Only saw the invis lights feet, the rest was just invis

@thick tundra I've been crashing quite a bit this season as well, can't remember the last time I crashed S2. Overall performance seems worse and a lot more crashes.

[thick tundra]

me and my friends crashed this season more times than ever. we were playing world tour and my friends crashed THREE TIMES and one of them got A MATCHMAKING SUSPENSION for ABANDONING MATCH. fair and square i guess...
before we would crash at max one time a week, this season we crash at least once every game day

[clever marlin]

They could make thermal vision a medium specialization like a less op recon sense

[snow trail]

My game keeps fucking crushing every 3-4 matches and due to this bullshit we lost fucking world tour and i got suspended for leaving match (i returned after crash). 10/10, fucking hate it

[pseudo latch]

Day 105 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[barren wyvern]

could you please fix the matchmaking in ranked, i get theres a lack of players but still, playing as a silver (maybe hidden elo as last season i was d2) i should not go against diamonds (ta is a differ
ent gamemode cmon)... (210k mmr vs 140k mmr isnt fair)

[hollow breach]

They'll nerf Heavy to the ground and all their guns and specializations rather than just only nerfing RPG... The fact that RPG is like 10/10 must pick for a heavy or else you'll underperform says a lot about this class. When people talk about nerfing Heavy, the only consistent complaint I've seen everybody say is nerf RPG and they'll nerf anything but that 💀

[tough glacier]

This new Terminal Attack (Counter Strike) mode is way less interesting than the Tournament mode that was available previously. What drives me away from Terminal Attack is the fact that there are too many loading and waiting screens. Sometimes, I wait longer than I play. Sadly, it's boring.

[rain kettle]

why the grapple can grab me through a dome shield but i can`t receive heal through it ? not fair in my opinion

[civic igloo]

don't tag random embark devs please

[frail kiln]

Dagger should Pierce heavies dome shield. I keep being right up on top of my opponent when I backstab them but because I’m standing in the shield, it only hits the shield. That’s a little goofy in my opinion. Feels bad 👍

[stone hazel]

world tour matchmaking is really bad for me
i win cashout around a third of the time as expected but get completely crushed in every single world tour game
i almost never even make it to the second round
i did way better in ranked cashout last season so it's not the gamemode
it's just world tour specifically that has bad matchmaking for me

[crystal umbra]

Thank you, you muthafuckin' handsome person

[tardy orchid]

What do I do if someone is throwing on team attack is spinning in circles with the key and won't play? I imagine we just lose the match?

[gilded bloom]

Please switch the main modes of ranked and world tour with each other for season 4 please embark 🙏

[burnt notch]

If the hook was from a member of the dome’s team, it can go thru.

@rain kettle oh it was ur shield? Ok yea that shouldn’t be happening

[sleek blade]

Add mnk support to console

[rain kettle]

nah ofc it was our dome shield and he grabbed me through it

[smoky wing]

dont let bro cook again pls get a life

[errant thunder]

Will they do something about matchmaking ? Just to know, because the teammates I get in ranked are terrible. It looks like there’s something about that

[violet elbow]

no no let the cook (its burnt), not like everyone who played since the betas has either left or is barely playing now! :)

[sonic spoke]

I don't think that most people know it. majority of players don't read release notes.

[slender oasis]

Mid game my cloak ability glitched and cannot use it, it is acting as if my cloak is continuously being used, seriously fix cloak entirely please qwq

[jagged cedar]

these dont counter sniper they just temporarily stop you from instadying

[teal oxide]

Hi! Big fan of the game right now, Season 3 is really hitting that sweet spot in a way that the game hasn't since early Beta. There's just a few items of feedback that I have that would make the experience even sweeter, and they are:

1. Remove Las Vegas From The Video Game

That is all. Thanks!

[light widget]

ive "played" since beta and the game has been buggered for me since season 2. well i would play more often if my matches would load me in. they never reply to tickets apart from to wish me an eggtastic day.

[humble cloud]

with ppl complaing about 3rd parties in THE FINALS. ( not what ever the "new ranked" is supposed to be) i would say lets add a 90M barrier to each cashout. (dont think of these barriers like whats in TA because you will still have room to move around those are ~ 50M) but with these barriers only 2 teams can be in at one time, and you can NOT shoot in and or out. each cashout has ~2 min each with a 10 min game, and when a team dies (within these barriers) the timer is paused, until a new team enter. ALL cashouts are set at 10k each except for the last cashout which is worth 20k. and we can either keep how it works 2 cashouts with 20k per box... or we could do 1 cashout 1 box 4 teams with 1 life only per person. the dead can be rezed but cant repawn, and when a team is wiped they wont respawn so if there are 4 teams and one team dies they are all out till theres only 1 team standing (end game)

[quick coyote]

Embark hates solo queuers.

[supple bolt]

why is everyone using the double barrel shotgun....

[vernal swallow]

repost

#givevicchisminigun

[drowsy vector]

Since it’s impossible to play TA ranked without cross play, I noticed a BIG difference in cheaters. You can’t tell me they aren’t cheating, so many unexplainable deaths occur now. And on top of that, got a message back from many of the reports I did, so I guess I’m right. Hope PS5 gets enough players to find games without cross play

[junior holly]

sorry but NO... this has so many fatal flaws ... griefable, exploitable and pointless to implement a 1 vs 1 team mechanic in a 1vs1vs1vs1 team mode. Holding a Chashout for a long periode of time needs to be rewarding to prevent tactical waiting for last second steals

[violet elbow]

How to fix cashout (Meta and Gamemode):

Heavy:
Nerf Charge and Slam damage
Nerf RPG damage down to 120/50, slightly nerf aoe, slightly buff cooldown speed.
Nerf Hook range down to 10-12m, remove the stun effect, pulling somebody out of position is strong enough in itself
Buff Lewis gun recoil

Light:
Nerf throwing knives again, they are unfun to fight and too spammy
Nerf the LH1 again, its still too strong and too spammy
Buff V9S Range back up and fix its visual recoil
Buff fully charged Bow Crit damage, slightly nerf velocity (allows for 1c1b on heavies and 1c+melee on meds with slightly higher skill requirement)
Buff Glitch Grenades to 8s
Give Stun a slightly longer INTERACT BLOCK

Medium:
Slightly Buff FCAR Range (.55 to .6 multiplier at range), slightly buff damage to 23-24 (TTK against Light remains the same, H and M its 1 bullet less, still more than old FCAR)
Buff Famas famas range and give it a zoomed scope (.55 at range, 1.5x scope)
Buff Dematerializer to 4 uses
Buff revolver reload speed from 2.2s/2.5s to 2.0s/2.2s, buff range to a .57 scalar at range to allow 6b medium kills and 4b light kills. (42 damage)
add a small delay to data reshaper so spamming to reshape an RPG does not instantly consume 2 charges.

now for cashout:

rework boxes, change them to 15k, 10k, 10k, allows teams to build momentum early and rewards CONSISTENT PERFORMANCE OVER JUST PLAYING FOR 22K BOXES
in its current state, a team can get a 10k, 15k, and lose to a team that got a 22k because they wiped once, while the team with the 22k could wipe 15 times in the match with no punishment.

Increase Vault Tap money to 1.5k, and deposit money to 3k

1/3 or 1/2 (5k with each box) should be paid out at HALF a cashouts duration, while the rest should be paid out at the end, still rewarding last second steal without punishing teams after they held the cashout for 2 minutes.

[quick coyote]

Hands down the worst idea i've heard for any game in my 35 years of gaming lol

[crystal storm]

been a while since i saw actual good feedback ++

[tardy orchid]

The "you won't be penalized" message you get when you leave a match that had a team member leave is a LIE! Do not leave. You will still be penalized. You will still lose SR. EMBARK YOU NEED TO EITHER REMOVE THIS MESSAGE OR FIX THE BUG. THIS IS THE 2ND TIME IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME!

[stark notch]

no idea why they removed the one round casual cashouts. it's forcing people to be stuck in 40 min world tours just to play the gamemode lol

[mossy wharf]

Rank TA sucks and should be removed. I haven't touched it once and I refuse to ever consider it an option. For the very reason I have enjoyed The Finals was because of the constant fighting and fights always being refreshing. I rather deal with defib/healing beam, RPG, hook, 3rd parties, etc than play a stupid mode like TA.

[deep sierra]

I agree

[pliant lion]

Either the server performance seems to get worse by the day or there's a sudden influx of blatant cheaters. I've lost count of the amount of times I've been killed through walls today, prime example is in the screenshots, I can clearly see the arrow missing me but somehow I'm dead in the next frame (literally the next frame on the recording) while I was clearly behind cover. You can even see that the trail of the arrow clearly missed me.

Somehow my enemies don't seem to have the same problem as they always happen to get away around a corner with 1 bullet worth of HP left or they instantly headshot me the moment I'm in their vision.

I've barely played any other game than the Finals since December but if this keeps on being as broken as it is I'm definitely going to quit. Terminal Aids is bad enough as it is but if I consistently get put up against blatant cheaters and/or I don't stand a chance because of lag I'm going to keep my sanity and uninstall.

[teal bear]

Don't really understand this crybaby ass mentality of "oh TA is trash so I'm not gonna play the finals"

World tour is almost identical to ranked except you don't de rank. Arguably the only change that needs to be made is it costs money to enter tournaments and boom you have a system for de-ranking. Every player also gets a certain dollar amount depending the combination of combat, support, and objective score. That way if your team sucks ass you can soften your loss by outperforming.

[humble cloud]

so u like to third party ok

[fluid raptor]

getting god awful dogshit teammates in ranked, everyone drops key, i as a light am the only one to paly objective, we lose cuz they can't even kill people, i lose 1000 rp. what a great and motivating system. every time i fucking play this game i get closer to just quitting and waiting for s4. i can't even get a team for ranked because literally no1 ever responds. soloqing to dia with light in s2 was more fun than even just playing two games of TA...

[heavy zephyr]

Can you guys add a thing in one of the corners of the main menu that tells you what song is playing? That way I know what absolute bop is going off and the music people get some credit for their amazing work!

[quick coyote]

As a light main, stun gun is the biggest crutch in the world, if you use you probably suck without and you suck

[upper citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856827759179071488/1248788401218523197/attachment.gif

[jagged cedar]

world tour has no skill based matchmaking and no ranked rewards passed $3 worth of multibucks

[lavish shard]

Light
Nerf TK add magazine for stop spam
Med
Balanced just add few bullet to scar
Heavy
Nerf rpg
Nerf damage charge
Buff little m60
Reduce recoil lewis
If you have more idee i take ❤@burnt notch i want TK need reload for stop spam

[spare seal]

again 15 kills or 15 assists with shotguns , lunchers is bugged

[nova lodge]

man i love this game

[pseudo latch]

No rewards past a mouthful of multibucks yet, we’re still waiting to see whatever the hell “the finals” is and they’ve pretty heavily insinuated whatever the hell “emerald” is is part of WT

[pulsar vine]

wounder when they gonna fix the server? Had issues every single day with crashes. like getting throwed out of the game and sometimes those i play against glitch right in front of me. and do u guys know if some of the people behind the finals even try to fix it?? happend to me since season 2. And i have played since beta

[versed basin]

Why am I 33k plus solo queuing with silvers FIX THIS

[wispy vault]

Game Feedback: its hard to create lobbys last days. often we cant see all 5 people online in friendlist and cant invite them. its so hard to create a lobby, because they dont shown as online in friendst, even if there are.

[burnt notch]

I don’t understand what u want for light

[eternal wigeon]

finally, some good f'ing feedback

[humble cloud]

so why have they not decided to let us have both winning animation and intro animation

[deep sierra]

Server side destruction seems to be bugging out. And dsync is a constant problem.

[coarse thunder]

fax yo

[strange cipher]

Please consider adopting a similar battlepass system to Halo Infinite where you can buy any of the battlepasses at any time and complete them at your own pace FOMO is not a fun thing for anyone and will probably cause Embark to miss out on potentially more revenue over time it makes more sense to do this from a business perspective and I strongly believe it'd make the fanbase more pleased with the game knowing they can come back and finish their battlepasses at any time and buy any other ones they desire at anytime

My second issue with anything FOMO related is that over time people are going to want the older battlepass items over time which may lead to account thefts and people selling their accounts regardless of if it's against ToS or not we can take a look at fortnite as a prime example when it comes to that and probably a lot of other games

It's possible for these changes to be made now since the game is relatively young into it's life and yes there is a little bias in here because there's some things I'd like to have that are no longer available (please note that this is an open suggestion for people to build upon)

[winged glacier]

wtaf level 97 is 70k xp??? and here i thought this game's bp leveling was actually more rewarding than apex's

[celest plaza]

terminal attack is the worst gamemode ever

[quick coyote]

...worst opinion 2024

[final willow]

So... where are my ranked skins then.

[upper citrus]

literally everybody hates this gamemode. even the devs acknowledged that most people dont like it

[distant gulch]

sonar grenades are too strong, either let us destroy them, or give lights only 1 grenade. Constant uptime on wallhacks is not fun and it has little counterplay in gamemodes like TA.

[warped cipher]

I only joined to say, buff the fucking bow

[hasty pelican]

leave bow as is, probably the only weapon i can say feels well balanced

[faint galleon]

How did we loes 300

[umbral anchor]

fix shot gun and launchers challenge immediately

[quick coyote]

Welcome to ranked, where the points dont matter and everything's made up

[silk cloud]

Dude 300 is nothing, sometimes we lose 1000+ after getting crushed by a team 20k RS better than us. It's bullshit.

Sorry Embark, but we gave terminal attack a fair go and it's just trash. The way your MMR is balanced, especially with regard to placement players, means that all of our matches are brutally lopsided and we're consistently getting slammed - when we lose, regardless of who we lose to or how well we perform, we can lose hundreds or thousands of RS and then have to spend hours grinding to get it back (which just results in apathy - why would I care about something so disposable?). It makes zero sense to play 6 rounds where you're defending or attacking before swapping in a game mode which is first to 7 - it takes a few rounds to figure out your opponents build and strategy, and defending is a lot easier than attacking because you can just turtle and hide, which means if you start on defence you can easily get to 6-0 before you have to swap and then you've got 7 match points on attack for an easy victory. I know you've got to rebuild the arena at halftime, which takes time and would prevent swapping sides every 2 or 3 games, but honestly that's just another indication that terminal attack shouldn't be your bloody ranked mode - it doesn't fit the gameplay.

[lean tree]

FIX THE MATCHMAKING PLEASE!

[grand helm]

Hopefully in tomorrows patch 🤞

[ashen sparrow]

Please fix the fing W/L elo for ranked it's ridiculous

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov zoom in and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.
• Pyro grenades "stick" to the shield and burn the player forever, making it also impossible to see

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

• Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam

[humble cloud]

just get rid of TA its terrible ppl like it because they either dont have to money for R6S and think this is the same this is THE FINALS theres no FINAL in TA just a final match against the exact same 5 ppl in SnD

[somber nymph]

please add new team names

[signal shoal]

STOP TRYING TO RUIN LIGHT

[sinful perch]

nerf sledge hammer

[zealous scarab]

I have a challenge. 15 eliminiations/assists with shotguns or launchers and I've tried everythign in the game and added up about 50 kills between them and not one has counted. I think it's bugged. I tried grenade launcher, heavy and medium all 3 classes of shotguns, and rocket launcher. help?

[crimson patrol]

NEW GAMEMODE IDEA

Cashpoint: (Hardpoint but you control & earn cash)

Teams: 3v3v3

Objective: Control the cashpoint to earn 500$ for every second. First team to $40000 or most cash in 15 minutes wins. Cashpoint relocates every 30 seconds.

• Lose X amount of cash on team wipes.
• No cash earned if multiple teams contest.

[coral axle]

there are cheaters every ranked match please fix

[mild grail]

That’s a good game mode

[river hill]

Yes.

[charred slate]

Should make an alternative skin for the flame thrower, like a dragon spitting fire ???? Would be dope

[umbral anchor]

Powershift.

[cedar plume]

Add me into the game
1.idk
2.add ok.
3.who are you

[stark notch]

game is dying = money is running out = servers are dying.

[clever charm]

Please make power shift win count towards first win of the day quest

[fleet sedge]

After looking at them again I am not getting the same ones they all just seem very similar. Like one day I get "do damage with gas" and the next I might get "do damage with fire".

[edgy urchin]

day 4 of asking for the classes weapons to be balanced!

[cedar plume]

Ffs please make the chat filter optional I can't even say damn or lmao without it getting censored but others can say the damn Hard R full power 😭😭😫

[shell raven]

increase volume of footstep noises for all classes

[ashen sparrow]

Please give something like elo rollback I'm tired of losing elo to cheaters

[molten sundial]

Embark plz fix any bug bro

[civic seal]

Challenger circuit stage 3 has a quest that needs play 3 matches of bank it or cashout I can't find cashout

[static wolf]

final round cashouts worth 50k for one box. so 100k to win. make it worth it to play final round.

[ebon hemlock]

Is this intentional or a bug? Invis people are only visible to thermal when there is an object behind them. I was trying to think of TA strats to counter these annoying invis abusers, but couldnt see them most of the time even with thermal. Please fix this as this makes the gadget useless in most situations

[ashen sparrow]

Great 3v5 in TA two dumb randoms just left love this game

[full sigil]

its been 6 days, they obviously do not care that much all we can do is wait lol

[solemn light]

question, I get the ban on ranked and MAYBE world tour... BUT WHY DO YOU GET A BAN FOR LEAVING A CASUAL TA GAME??? its CASUAL. Please Embark.

Pdt: your shotgun challenge is glitched, the sa automatic shotgun doesnt count kills or at least it didnt in TA

[clever marlin]

PLS fix the friends list it keeps saying people are offline when their not

[unreal fossil]

Updates are released on the same day every week. Embark only releases hot fixes for game breaking stuff. A contract that does not work is nowhere near game breaking. Hell most other things reported in this feedback channel are not game breaking either.

I don't even know why/how can people be so infuriated when the devs release an update/fix per week. I mean come on. How much faster do you want these to be ? Daily ? Who even does that in the gaming industry ? I think we've all see countless AAA titles sold at full retail price, released day one in a barely playable state, for the devs to then take MONTHS to get most of the bugs addressed (if they ever are).

I'm not saying Embark is perfect, but let's not be ungrateful.

[stray river]

^^ Also make the raffika dual wield please that would be cool 😉

[fathom glacier]

so the 2nd place guy gets banned in world tour for cheating but not the 1st place guy that had the exact same cash total and was playing with the cheater??

[proud crater]

someone left my game, the match got canceled, yet i recieve the ban for leaving the game? this makes no sense

[sudden spire]

Exactly

[delicate yoke]

Balance the RPG by reducing the damage to 100, slightly increasing its structural damage, adding a few more seconds to its cooldown, and increasing the reload time by 1-2 seconds.
They're not big changes on their own, but together they would help to make RPG less of a must have with every build and overall increase player enjoyment.

[humble cloud]

why would you want 100k 💀 its all the same results on a 3v3

[upper citrus]

The world tour leaderboard + the deep pockets achievement

[peak grail]

remove snipe from ranked terminal

[stable gull]

im not tripping right? like the shotgun challenge in this weeks circuit isnt working?
nvm I just read up, that explains a lot lol

[glacial geyser]

Counterpoint

• reduce self damage
• add rocket jumping
• make it a specialization

[hybrid dock]

Honest to god you guys should add team death match so many of teammates have reached a point in their brainrot that the only thing they know is shoot gun at enemy.

[novel steppe]

Is the contract for shotgun assists/elims broken?

[tropic oar]

Yo fr and I get messaged for being garbage when we lose as I have over 6k objective score and 10k support with their 24 kills 0 objective

[obsidian shell]

I'm dying from DDoS attacks and lost over 13,000 points because of it, yet they foolishly think I'm the one doing it. I'm on top of the first and second season. Do you think I would risk it? I've spent half my life playing these games like Valorant, R6, and Counter-Strike. @zinc scarab

[visual turret]

so people still get stuck in loading screen in world tour

and i got hit by a penalty when the game itself crashed during the final stage of world tour?

ignoring the nerf of damage and change of recoil pattern to heavy's machine guns, i finally found some work around strategy to use him in world tour and now I cant even play it because it might crash during anytime and it might stuck on loading screen anytime when i am trying to combat the cat and mouse triple light stack?

[hybrid dock]

Preaching to the choir here my friend I’ve gotten hate mail saying I’m a fake diamond and weak and all that it’s actually starting to affect my gameplay

[prime wing]

Do not let random internet jobbers decide how you play this game. Half of ypur matches would be oops all snipers all cranes if you did.

[minor plover]

Season 3, World Tour and ranked Terminal Attack killed this game for me.

Terminal Attack is boring and slow.

Cashout without matchmaking isn't a challenge, so World tour is boring.

The game just isn't fun right now.

I genuinely hope they have a return to form in Season 4, I miss what this game was.

[midnight aurora]

If you get 2 light snipers as teammates in world tour you should be allowed to quit with no punishment. Biggest waste of time

They only got near the objective because they happend to see someone close to one.

[versed cloud]

Whoa wait can you explain what happed in this clip? I am genuinely curious. You are being DDOS attacked during matches?

[obsidian shell]

Yes, there have been a lot of attacks happening recently, and in the video there is a person reporting me and I did not do anything.

[quick coyote]

• Revert m60

• Buff Lewis gun recoil

• Nerf RPG damage, increase environment damage

• Nerf charge and slam initial activation damage.

• Nerf mesh shield so it cannot be reactivated / deactivated no penalty

• Buff Medium dual blade lunge distance / range

• Buff 93R damage

• Nerf XP-45 Range / damage falloff.

•Adjust TA health pools to 100 for light, 180 for M, and 205 for heavy

[simple parrot]

I hope there is a community event where you can decide the newest team name. People can suggest names and the 4 highest voted names can be tested, where the highest win rate team is the final winner

[pine flower]

They really did fuck up with S3. Maybe 1 in 20 matches I play where all teams are full without someone leaving. It would rarely happen in ranked in Season 2. The moment to moment gameplay is being spoiled by shitty matchmaking and an identity crisis.

They haven’t even responded to the criticism, yet alone announced any plans for a return to form. They haven’t offered any explanation for why they’ve made the decision to repulse the people who had been playing The Finals the most.

We asked for Solo Queues, Map Voting, a transparent and straightforward skill-based ranking system and maybe some changes to the Final round to make it more streamlined (and change the Goddamn team colors already!) Instead they removed ranked and replaced it with either Terminal Attack, a boring light-dominated snooze fest that is completely unbalanced and un-fun, and World Tour, a mode that encourages leaving and thinks that six maps is just too much. Seriously the map thing is so confusion. Why? Why 3 maps at a time? What the fuck is the purpose of that? It seems deliberately designed to keep people from playing that mode so much. Maybe we’re supposed go play terminal attack. Idk but I have a lot of other games I’d play before Terminal Attack.

The FPS scene is incredible competitive. I love this game and want if to do well in the long run, but I hope the numbers are terrible this season. I hope it really costs them something for this awful decision, because in it’s current form this game is not very enjoyable.

The players didn’t stick around but for a small portion of a dedicated base. Probably about 20-25k people on at a given moment between XB PS and Steam. Daily users was probably around 150-200k. Enough to make a path forward. And they took their product and soiled it with an invasive “temporary” mode and didn’t apply any of the items that have been requested since launch. Why drive away the people who use your product most in a feeble attempt to draw in a more transient crowd?

[midnight aurora]

Spend more time optimizing the game even if it delays the next season. The ammount of constant crashes are unacceptable.

[versed cloud]

Yeah that's kinda unfair of them to report you like you are the source of the disruption. People do just report out of anger sometimes, hopefully embark factors that in for most cases.

[hard shoal]

remove terminal attack

[drifting pawn]

terminal attack is boring af. would take pre-nuke nerf cashout over terminal. kill terminal or just push it to the side and leave it in quickplay with bank it and power shift. leave ranked for cashout which is the flagship mode forThe Finals

[winter vapor]

ill be the 90% of the player population that will say, once AGAIN after WEEKS of you hearing the community.

NERF THE THROWING KNIVES.

What is the point of this thread if you guys dont listen? Just search "knives" and youll see how much of a terrible decision your devs made with the absolutely extreme buff.

The 10% that main it or like it shouldnt be in fps at all. they dont know how to use guns, period.

Please, please, please fix this garbage already, you have plenty of evidence.

also, stop throwing us into games that are 90% over, its absolutely pointless, and youre wasting our time.

[boreal path]

nerf the sniper

[eternal wigeon]

Everyone's saying to balance the RPG by decreasing it's damage and increasing environmental damage. Bruh, except for cranes, the RPG destroys every obstacle with one hit 💀

[glacial geyser]

Just make it a specialization
Seems like the simplest way to balance it

And then, preferably, add the ability to rocket jump with it :p

[charred echo]

Shaquille O'neal skin for heavies

[river hill]

Remove the sniper

[simple parrot]

also a timer on the cashouts would be great

[mortal geyser]

With the rocket jump ability, they should add a shovel that crits while falling and scales with falling speed :p

[wheat frigate]

10k players this early into new season on PC is sad...... GJ Embark on the TA ranked being forced down our throats

[tender minnow]

bring back ranked cashout, fix spawns, make team respawn time faster, nerf double heavy, buff 93r

[misty jasper]

Isn't it because of the lights

[sage prism]

I think deleting this game is the only way to make it playable. Embark, and the Finals, consistantly prove to be the worst devs and game possible. Genuinely awful balancing. They add the coolest content in any game just to outright ruin it by making this game worse and worse every time they put out an update. This game could have been so damn good if anyone else developed it

[sudden summit]

absolute true

[midnight aurora]

Uninvent the sniper

[inland cove]

@sage prism no its not
i think this game actually has relay good balancing
oh ya delete the sniper pls :(

[delicate yoke]

Add comically large fork or butter knife skin for spear. I mean why not.

[misty jasper]

ppl who keep complaining and whining like you are the only trash that deserves to be rid of from this game. so much negativity for a game thats less than a year old. give it a fking break for gods sake. if you dont like this game then get the hell off. literally zero need to comment about it especially if you're contributing absolute fkin nothing even remotely close to feedback. you ruin the game for people. j leave the server at this point if you're gonna be this pessimistic about a game that so many ppl still enjoy. dogshit.

[tranquil yoke]

couldn’t of said it better myself. They really messed up this game. Terminal Attack is not why i started playing this game

[warm island]

Does anybody else think that one color they chose to use just sucks (you know which one I'm talking about) and could be so many other better colors instead? ...and now i realize nobody can react to this here... ill assume everyone agrees

[glacial geyser]

Defense-specific buffs for each class

Given player feedback on third partying, instead of changing the Cashout gamemode, we should be encouraging players to defend cashouts by buffing their abilitiy to defend.
These buffs would only be active while you are defending a cashout and within a certain range of the cashout you are defending.

These changes would make it more difficult to third party (but not impossible) and also less frustrating to be on the receiving end of a third party.

This would also make taking a cashout more challenging, which makes it more rewarding to secure a vault. And it would encourage players to attack Cashout stations sooner, which will reduce (but not eliminate) the chance of last minute steals.

Heavy
Deployables and Shields have increased health when defending a cashout.
This change would enable Heavy to be an effective defensive role, while also preventing their gadgets from being too powerful in a teamfight or when stealing a cashout.

Medium
While defending a cashout, kills and assists reduce the cooldown of your gadgets - kills reduce the cooldown more than assists, balance numbers TBD.
This change would enable Medium to re-deploy defenses quickly and recover from team fights.

Light
While defending a cashout, kills grant you additional cash and also restore your health.
This change would enable Lights to stay in the fight longer, do what they do best, and also get rewarded for doing so.

[violet elbow]

nerfing throwing knives (a weapon that promotes a cringy ass playstyle that doesnt fit the class) and the Lh1 (a way too overtuned supposed "long range" weapon) isnt gonna "ruin" the class, maybe actually get good with weapons that take skill ig

[sharp summit]

its ranked terminal, crossplay on. I joined after 11 minutes

[mortal geyser]

This is why we don't que for bankit

[slate mauve]

Data Reshaper should be a throwable. And if shotdown by APS, the APS reshapes.

[green thistle]

The spawning logic of Cashout remains a major pain point. Spawning 150m away from an objective you're defending, spawning in a position that only grants you 1 choice of cashout to attack, spawning to be a 3rd party instead of taking a 3v3 fight, among other scenarios. I can only assume this problem is very difficult to deal with from a dev standpoint, but it remains a frustration that I think some remedies could be tested for.

[charred echo]

it would be so hard to attack tho

[glacial geyser]

Sounds like a good thing.
People will start prioritising securing vaults and defending cashouts - rather than waiting and trying to third party.

I mean, some of the top players are complaining that there's no incentive to defending a cashout... Why not give them an incentive by making it more of an advantageous position?

And balance can also be tweaked based on the range/radius that the defensive perks kick in.

Being stuck in one location isn't exactly a great position to start with, why not make it stronger?

[compact pivot]

nah

[mild pebble]

If anything I feel like explosive weapons like the 2 grenade launchers and the flamethrower should be a gadget if anything tbh

[static wolf]

100k makes it more satisfying and higher stakes. for a game show it makes sense. Right now world tour is a game of grinding and 20k for a whole third round granted you win is pretty crumby when you can easily get 100k+ in the 2 previous rounds. Make it feel more rewarding overall

[hazy shore]

remove most if not all the controller aim assist features. stop giving people a "i tried" trophy. @frank kernel did for 5 games and havent used a controller since halo 3 on xbox 360. went 20+ kills each game and to the finals

[frank kernel]

Just switch to controller if it’s so OP

[fickle sundial]

It's the same for me buddy,

I just did some placement matches. I also bought the battlepass but honestly I can't be bothered to play the game now with the new ranked system/terminal attack.

If they don't change it in season 4 I'm just going to uninstall the game :(
It's not fun anymore to me then.

[river hill]

Dang. After all these recent updates we still don't have crossplay across other consoles

[dusk lake]

Bug. My battlepass isnt gaining any xp

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov zoom in and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.
• Pyro grenades "stick" to the shield and burn the player forever, making it also impossible to see

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

• Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam

[somber hound]

Can embark pls start listening to the community feedback????

[hard badger]

ngl these updates are barebone, what happened to the bigger ones :(? The game is getting stale already. Pls give us a new gamemode or something thats fresh because in season 1 we atleast got payload moving gamemode. I hope you are cooking something for us

[rough herald]

rpg and charge is still a win button, nerf both damage by around half pls

[reef jasper]

The development team , design team , every team… ALL AMAZING!

… the macro decision making by the heads of the company I believe are causing the issues in this game …

How do you fix it? PLAY TEST

[lavish sorrel]

i want nukes back and flying ziplines

[worn horizon]

if this post gets more than 5 upvotes then EMBARK you have to buff 93r next patch. nvm you cant upvote here

[fickle linden]

I'm afraid this isn't how any of it works

[tiny sphinx]

This update catching Ls all over

[umbral anchor]

thank you for fixing contracts daddys

[crimson crag]

fix the friends list, it's so bugged (saying ppl are online when their not and saying ppl are offline when they're on)

[crystal umbra]

✨FREE IDEA✨ Day 18

"Hey bro, do you wanna join our company?"

Encourage us to play and make friends. I'm talking about make The Finals about team play (Way too much solo culture in ranked)

They need to make a "squad" system next season.
For obvious reasons I believe this idea will lead to a exponential engagement effect, let me explain:

"Squads" or "Companies" should be able to select or vote for sponsors:
-Vaiiya
-Volpe
-Engimo
-Ospuze
Etc.

During the season we should be able to grind for "fame" so we can get company drip (cosmetics) for completing these "company contracts".
(Gives me reason to hop back on the game, me and my friends are working towards a goal now. +++ Add Bonus Points for playing with company mates)

This may take the place of circuits but I think my ideas fits the theme of the game-show AND this gives people a reason to play with friends and implore their friends to hop on The Finals with them.

Create specialized cosmetics for these sponsors. Once your company selects one they are locked in for specialized one-time cosmetics.

This creates urgency AND rarity since -for example- the season 4 OSPUZE set will never show up again. (Same for Engimo, Vaiiya, etc.)
Remember, ONLY AVAILABLE FOR ONE SEASON

Top companies (companies with the most "fame" or money cashed out) are showed on the World Tour leaderboard.
There they should be able to display or link their Twitch and other socials.

✨((MAKE YOUR CONTESTANTS STARS))✨
Appeal to human nature and give us something to talk about amongst ourselves. Give us something to brag about.
"Oh shxt, that's Ottr from 'x' Company".

In real life athletes have sponsor drip, well in The Finals - The world's greatest game-show - it's no different.

We get to flex our specialized drop from our favorite sponsors (opportunity to expand the lore)
And the top, most loyal finalists get shouted out.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[boreal sentinel]

(Dual blades rework idea)
Old: Low chance of deflecting bullets while the player still gets health damage and no blocking against other melee users ( including hook )
New: 100% deflect bullets with no health damage received but each shot taken will reduce stamina bar. If stamina bar depletes completely, blocking is not available until it is fully restored. 100% block against hook. Can partially block melee users and gets minor health damage. If timed correctly, can fully block any melee and parry another melee user and deal partial amount of damage. Cannot damage blocked riot shield.

Reply: @mild ruin Really? I tested against a heavy with lmg in a private match. Some shots are not deflected. Knowing that theres no deflect from the back (which is fine) and still get damaged when deflecting from the front. There is no survival chance for DB. No. It is not perfectly balanced at all.

[lime lichen]

Lame update, still no changes to charge and RPG... Why even bother doing an update this week?

[mild ruin]

its deflecting all the time, you get only 20% dmg when enemy 80%
if u cant hit enemy its only server issue, or ur aim issue
db is perfectly balanced

[proven ibex]

One more Dead Patch. Nothing about ranked cashout, mid season changes, handling cheaters, no shit nothing about anything... Devs sucked big time in this season.

[zealous valve]

buff melee sword dagger plsss

[lilac bolt]

I was super skeptical about terminal attack being the main focus for ranked but now i’ve played it its not actually too bad this season 🤷‍♀️ s2 terminal attack was diabolical lmfao so its an improvement

[cyan crane]

Fr. It feels so much more polished but it also doesn't feel right as it should have integrated some kind of limits to abilities or something that you must buy in the start of a round. Just my two cents tho

[paper estuary]

Nerf Throwing Knifes

[quick coyote]

It's never gonna happen at this point. The Finals is literally all about lights

[somber hound]

make balance patches pls.... Nerf sniper in TA... Light in TA, Heavy RL, Heavy hook... and more pls balnce this gamemode... ALSO FIX ANTI CHEAT I RUN EVERY SECOND TA RANKED GAME INTO A HACKER!!!

[quick coyote]

We need some guest announcers

[tall wave]

Respawn statues are teleporting

[gritty grove]

I SEE THEY STILL HAVENT NERFED THE FLAME THROWER AND I CAN GET KILLED BEHIND PEOPLE AND FAR AWAY FROM FLAME

[olive shell]

DELETE TERMINAL ATTACK

[fossil vault]

Introducing ranged weapons that don't need to be reloaded was an awkward choice for balance. Lights can kind of just.. hold left click and aim in the general direction of anything that isn't blue

[smoky gust]

Im not quit sure what were supposed to do at this point

A lot of us are getting our fun ruined by one item or another, and we want to let you know so you can change it and we can have fun again

I know this stuff all need to be discussed by the team to figure out the best solution, especially around items with mixed opinion

But nothing?
Not a single change?
Not even a small one, to show youre inching towards the direction we are asking you to go in?

Sometimes it feels like we are just yelling into the void
Its getting exhausting

[rough herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1235515405708169237/1256528482251575358/REMOVETARANKtm_2.gif its a gif you can save and spam 👍

[buoyant mural]

Skill issue bot man 😂 the game gives all classes attention and each have their own strengths only thing they’ve got wrong this season is changing ranked everything else they’ve done a good job. I’d rather it be like season 1 where pretty much everything was op but people crying have made them nerf things, still tho not worth crying about the gameplay on this game is 10/10

[old crypt]

I would love to see a terminator/cyborg type skin. Have Individual limbs with metal replacing skin and bone, hands, feet, head, or just a whole robot outfit

[quick coyote]

Sure, 2 shot a medium with a bow makes sense mate. Meanwhile the medium with a fucking revolver (a gun btw) takes 3 or 4 shots including the lights movement. So stop defending your light ass bullshit. Talk about throwing knife.

Those things just gets spammed, no reloads, no delays. It's the easiest most fucking annoying weapons. Heavy is probably the only balanced thing in this fucking game. Light op, Medium forgotten, Heavy balanced.

And what makes rank shit is twats like you.

@lusty portal you forgot to mention the movement.

[cloud spear]

Very shocking that a light player thinks the game is in a good state, the joke writes itself

[rare rock]

bait used to be so believable...

[lusty portal]

Can 2 tap with a bow/sniper/sword, can 1 tap backstab.
Medium can 2 tap with shotgun if close enough,
Heavy can 2 tap with shotgun.
I’m still personally sour about the FCAR nerf last season.
Minus the awful change to ranked I think the game is in a pretty good state , there is a skill gap in the game.

[solid heath]

have yall thought of giving some type of reward or skin or something for being top X in leaderboards for world tour? I think that would be cool

[mossy wharf]

@pearl kiln You have legitimately ruined a great game with this season. This patch note is the most worthless one yet. I've been patiently waiting to see if this game is worth playing anymore. I am very disappointed in your team and this season. Take the criticism because this game is being removed come next week if your update is this awful.

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[keen beacon]

While I think this is pretty harsh, you're completely right...
This patch note doesn't even deserve to be called 3.3. It deserves to be called 3.2.1.

We waited weeks, hoping for balancing changes to weapons, the meta, and ranked. We expected issues such as cheaters and other things to be addressed, but instead, we got a couple measley bug fixes for bugs that reported weeks ago, some even being from literally a month ago.

I'm not sure if Embark is doing anything massive, which is why they're silent, but this is horrible. The amount of visible effort from S1 has decreased dramatically. Patch notes now feel like "oh yeah. we forgot to fix that lol. okay back to doing absolutely nothing for another 3 weeks"

If this keeps up, a lot more people are going to share this sentiment. I mean I do, and it's clear it's growing.
I'd like to stay positive, but every single time, I'm disappointed by the lack of changes. I'm not even looking for the specific changes I want, just what the community wants at this point. But not even that is getting fulfilled. That's just sad, and I'm starting to feel a lot more negative about this game.

[stuck rock]

could we see a heavy buff, its anoying never being able to heal or having a 30% chance of wining a 1 on 1 fight with a lewis gun

[broken geyser]

1. Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode.

2. Give more button optimisation for controller players for example triggering something or being able to choose an item with the double tap or triple of a button or swipe on the middle pad of a controller.

3. More character slots

[onyx widget]

Fair play no nerf on the throwing knives, who wants to have a scrap then embark

[prime raft]

Please Create Reprocutions for cheaters in the finals its getting ridiculous. for example R6 Seige anyone who won games with cheaters once banned will lose the elo they played with them and it is rewarded to the people who lost against them. this stops people from using boosting services and will overall reduce the amount of cheaters as there is no purpose.

[hard badger]

remove snipers from power shift!!! they are just camping and not contributing anything to their team in terms of objective play. I never saw a sniper on platform, says enough imo...

[rough herald]

zippy bucket list:

• zippy get stuck on trees
• zippy disappear
• zippy stick to ground
• zippy throw probs

[uneven mountain]

you have plats in ruby, nobody is playing TA

[violet elbow]

funny because the shots to kills with Bow vs medium and revolver vs Light are the exact same, 1 head + a body or 3 bodyshots

[quick coyote]

Once again I'll mention movement

Also smaller hitbox, overall faster movement. Stun. Little to no reloads. Do I really have to go on? Play medium for a day.

[hazy shore]

tracking problem?

[smoky gust]

Dont forget them being build for an ambush, so they get first strike
Or how they dont need to aim if they just stun the enemy first
Or how they can retreat whenever they want, while mediums cant

[polar shell]

🙄 seriously Embark 'ruby' ? time attack? I doubt 500 ppl even play it.. even if anyone still cared played search and dsestroy... I mean TA, you dont have enough inertia internationally yet for it to mean anything.. I suggest double-down on WT , motivate ppl to grind even more AND: Randomly give ppl sponsorships and dont tell anyone what they did to deserve it, eg: Vople likes the cut of your jib and has given you this outfit/sponsorship, if you drop out of the top 100 000 we will give it to someone else... etc

[somber axle]

This ☝️, the sponsor rotation should'e reward some cosmetics for characters at least 🗿

[celest berry]

the community managers just dont do theire job, no statement that TA ranked didnt went as planned, no statement that we hear the feedback that Cashout was the way better ranked mode.

It is so dissappointing to have no message from Embark about the current sittiuation, dear Embark sitting in silience and wait out the situation will not make it better, it will make it even worse.
i personaly dont need "yeah we fucked up we change it tommorow msg" i just need a "we heared the feedback sadly we cannot change it mid-season we do our best for s4". Just beeing silient is a no go.

TA is by far the worst SND mode i have ever witnessed and i played almost 10k hours SND games, boring, slow no structured rounds/maps disigned for SND, and no viable strats besides "go kill" due to way to much vertical moovement or wide open map disign.

Current WT is worse than Quickcash last season, noone play objective everyone is just playing TDM due to no real ranked system, bronze and diamond players from last season are in the same lobbys its not fun for both sides.

Todays patch just shows how much Embark is out of touch with their community.

[languid ibex]

They did actually say CO is the main game mode

[pseudo breach]

Lol, all my gadgets and weapon changed to the healing beam. Kind of hard to ADS the R357 when the healing beam is blocking everything

[silent fog]

No throwing knife nerf in this lackluster patch again 👍

[wary storm]

ANOTHER lackluster patch. this is meant to be a place to communicate with us but they would rather just say hi to people and talk about skins than mention any of the complaints and pain around TA ranked etc

[thick vale]

fax

[cloud spear]

As far as any feedback goes, this is their stance. Joking about it and not acknowledging anything. This was at the start of season 3 when their servers were barely functional and this is their response. Embark really just doesnt care anymore hence the complete radio silence from them. They simply dont care about this game and will make the tiniest changes to try and squeeze a little bit more money from people before they leave.

[solid heath]

guess they just forgot to make it this season 😉

[slow void]

Winch Claw is a real pain ... please give us some mecanic to be able too counter it ! For now if winch claw catch you it's a free frag ... nothing more annoying than a mechanic you can't counter in any way. and same for Stun Gun who got the same issue but at least you can defend yourself when stun.

[coral hedge]

The connection and lag is so horrifically awful that I cant even play it. I'm in the NA region and I've had to change settings on my computer and graphics card just to go from 8 fps to 10 fps to make it slightly more functional. Please for the love of god fix it, especially since I'm not the only one with this issue as well as having the battle pass.

[violet elbow]

have this bug where Throwing Knives are a weapon for people with a beerbelly when the class they are on is supposed to be skill expressive and hard to use, would love for this bug to be fixed!

[still portal]

Wow, they really are going to run this whole season with TA ranked huh. Crazy.

[tacit patrol]

The XPS blueprint skin has extremely shaky inspects, I can barely read the blueprint parts

[smoky gust]

I can only hope that the reason they arent balancing at the moment is that they are planning a big meta change on all fronts

Sometimes with only 1 or 2 things change it wont feel like anything changed/is worthy checking out, because everything around it stayed the same

If everything changes, there is a lot more to check out and experiment with
I really hope we see changes soon

[zealous pulsar]

that is a hot take, they might just be working on something bigger, they did mention improvements to the cashout mode

[fallow idol]

I enjoy this game but why so many microtransactins to buy skins 😑

[velvet elk]

is it possible to add a team selctore in private matches?

[torpid sky]

Join the lobby as a party and you'll be in the same team

[pliant lion]

IMO the main problem with the throwing knives is the ability to just keep spamming without having to reload. At close range it's like a slightly slower firing, significantly higher damage and easier to control LH1 with a bottomless magazine. I think it'd be good if they either slightly increased the delay after throwing 2 knives or implemented a somewhat longer delay after throwing let's say 4 to 6 knives (similar to turning the magazine on the SA1216) so it's a little less spammable. Either that or just nerf it back to not be 3/5/6 hit kills on L/M/H respectively.

If you're up against a light with throwing knives and you're not absolutely on top of your game (or you just ran into someone else and you don't have a full magazine) you are going to die because you run out of bullets before the light is down. At that point you're a sitting duck as the light can just constantly keep spamming. I feel like at least 75% of all lights I run into nowadays are running the throwing knives.

[red echo]

can we get la casa de papel skins? they would fit the game so much and will sell a lot

[timber hazel]

:<

I thought there will be change to cashout

Why must I suffer playing TA as a rank if cash-out won’t get new exciting change

[zinc scarab]

Who are you, ErE? Just so you know, I filed the report stating the issue. I have no way of knowing who it is lmao thats not my job to find if its you or someone else. I only reported ere and frost because 2 of the other guys were cross play and probably as console owners not smart enough to DDoS the server. It is up to embark to inspect the play history of all players in the match to find whom is most likely to be causing this.

Besides you said it yourself, if you're experiencing server DDoS attacks on a lot of your games then you are the common denominator, it makes sense why they would suspect you as nobody else in this game is experiencing this happening. It's only ever happened once to me in that scale and here you are stating its happening all the time to you.

[strong sparrow]

Day 16 of asking to revert TA ranked (its a casual gamemode that is NOT suited for competition) and bring back cashout ranked (at least for S4 and onward)

[upper citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183069658086117447/1258027353142067213/REMOVETARANKtm_2.gif?ex=66868cc6&is=66853b46&hm=b9833957205e72ddf084ff087859336b029d18d7055232e60b29cd6a59b52a1d&

[regal cairn]

Genuinely the bug fixes last patch was really good. Now we are dealing with light having to high of a TTK compared to the other classes. Heavy luis gun needed its nerf but now its underpowered, same said with the m60.

If we turn down the damage on the throwing knives no one will be upset because everyone know they are broken in terms of kill time. The speed buff was a good change to the knives but the damage was really bad. I'd love to see the speed from the start of S3 back with the damage of last season. Also on a side note the 93R is much worse now, like the RPM was the only good part about it. It needed to go up some damage maybe 2 or 3 then the rpm be changed a little. The XP-40 needs a harder recoil... I know controversial in this community, the gun is just to good with its fast TTK with headshots and it's insane recoil. WARNING TO EMBARK. IF YOU CHANGE THE RECOIL OF THE XP YOU'LL GET A WAVE OF M11 PLAYERS.

Now to medium, the guns on the class is just fine except the Famas. It's currently so broken on controller. The small amount of recoil and RPM is just over tuned. TTK times are still not bad but having someone come and camp a roof with a AR with no recoil is insane (Most people will call this a skill diff). Thats all on medium.

Ok that's all I will say. Love you guys at embark and truly i want this game to succeed.

Id love to talk to some devs at some point so i can give my opinion and it not be glossed over.
That was so much looking at it now T_T

[velvet peak]

please buff medium like gun damage and recoil nerf heavy and light a lil bit

[fierce valve]

Please be transparent about what bugs you know about. Some still exist for months with 0 acknowledgement.

[solid heath]

just give everyone ruby then while you're at it 💀 stop lol

[patent torrent]

I mean, it would be fun to have an rpg that can shoot more often for less damage, but I don't think it should replace the current rpg per se, rather be a weapon of sorts, like a rocket-propelled grenade launcher or something.

four shots, long reload, moderate fire delay, ~70 damage per hit, busts a hole just large enough for a light to fit through with each shot, moderately long range, moderately accurate. 2-3 shots to coin a light, 3-4 for a medium, 5-6 shots to coin a heavy. Smallish effective blast radius, moderately-sized low damage splash radius. Knockback mechanic?? Very tiny rocket jumps possible???

[signal basin]

If hook do dmg, stun gun should do too

[mossy wharf]

I am not going to deny, your response was more thorough than mine. I woke up and seen the patch notes feeling completely dismayed as someone who has enjoyed Embark and their game, but this season has truly been eye opening in regards to the lack of patch notes. I'm going to say Embark has a cycle of one week nothing gets really done and the next week real changes. Makes sense, but they have SOME REAL MAJOR issues with so many things right now. I believe Embark at this point is brewing something up that's going to be a big change later on, but that's the issue, they wait TOO LONG and cause players to quit playing the game. Rank TA could literally be removed from the game and not one player would miss it. But the sheer fact Embark isn't having an open survey, discussion, and openness to things is making me wonder. The criticism is much needed and you can do it without threatening lives, but they should understand we all love the game and they are ruining it on their own at this point.

[tough spade]

When do we get an optimization patch? Somehow, after every match, the loading got slower ever since S3.

[fickle linden]

It's good to note that doing this for Season 3 gives us a chance to work on Cashout and make vital improvements to the mode that would have been difficult to do when it’s locked into ranked for a whole season. This will give us a chance to make Cashout more viable as a competitive mode in the future.
I won't argue, but I figure the announcements are rather straightforward on this topic. Cashout is important and crucial. There are various reasons why it's not in the center of attention right now.

[floral plover]

Fortnoight

[teal bear]

Dear Embark Devs,

Can we get a update from you all on the status of the game. Starting to get worried about it. Kinda sucks that the changes have alienated the player base. I really hope you all are planning some seriously cool stuff to rope back in people who left. This game deserves to live on.

[sharp herald]

The light doesn't have enough silent weapons that delete half your health please add more and make sure they're broken right off the bat ty

[lean tree]

Embark, please fix your fucking matchmaking… i lost 4-7. I got 17 kills, 3 Assists and 8 Deaths, 9620 Combat DMG. The second most kills on my team is 7…

Now lets go to the enemy team… already two players who are wayyyyy above me in the rankings. They have 18 kills / 10 deaths and 13 kills and 9 deaths and the third most kills of the team is 7!!!

I got -800 RS for this match even though i carried my fucking team. They won four rounds because of me… otherwise it would’ve been an easy 0-7 for them.

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO CLIMB??? Im stuck at the same fucking rank for WEEKS because my teammates leave the fucking game OR they are silver or bronze…

I know for sure i belong in diamond… almost every fucking game i have the most kills, combat dmg and mostly the highest objective score and still i -800 RS??? And when i fucking win, i get like +700/+900. I RARELY get like +1000. You guys said this season is all about judging the players more accurate. WELL So far this system is NOT working… please do something about this.

[deep summit]

Add Skill based match making, I get put up with teammates that share 1 braincell between them
None of them can hold 1kd+ always negative kd, like why play if you're that bad? don't understand these people

[lilac coral]

You report the pc player cause you think the console guy wouldn’t ddos you. Your an absolute moron to think that

[crystal storm]

its such a cop out non reason, like they couldnt just have normal cashout as ranked unchanged another season. its not like they are doing tweaks to it in WT now. They could have been testing versions of it all along even in s1 s2 unranked. Just comes across as either very narrow sighted or that they dont know how to run AB tests.

What seems more likely is that they didnt see the player count they expected and tried to get players from valo/cs but it backfired as its an inferior product as a tactical shooter, it just isnt built for it.

My feedback, remove TA and actually do numeric balance patches 🙂

[zinc scarab]

By the way you just replied I can tell you didn't read the msg.

1. I was not the victim of the DDoS, it was The Finals.
2. It is less likely that it was a console player because we don't know the exact method they are using to DDoS the server, you can't just use a skid ddos method you likely need to extract the game UDP connection payload using mitm proxy / wireshark. Or it's a DDoS not relying on network but could rely instead of a bug in the game which the person has found a way to exploit and DDoS without the traditional DDoS you think of.
3. The person is coming to complain directly to me whom reported this incident to Embark for no reason, I never directly contacted him once and he's only msging me because other people have also reported him and he himself admits he has been in multiple games where the server was DDoS which is very uncommon.

[fickle linden]

I don't want to suggest this is the only reason the decision was made, but I think any feedback made gains a lot from knowing that Cashout is not being abandoned or dropped

[dark ridge]

Really good update guys, they fixed the game and its now i the best state ever. Keep going with these updates they are amazing.

[proven ibex]

Whoever came up with that "reason" is fkknv dumb.. they did succeed in making this season a shitshow and losing playerbase.

[charred slate]

Can we fix tournament lobbies? Like I only got a team mate and I’m against 9 people
Tournaments shouldn’t start till they reach capacity

[pliant lion]

It'd work wonders if they kept their community up to date on what is coming up/being worked on, doesn't even have to be detailed information with a specific ETA either. Right now everyone is left in the dark and it doesn't feel like they're listening to feedback at all.

It would go a long way to acknowledge much discussed issues and mention that they're looking into it if it's the case at all.
Example:

• We are aware of the excessive use of -insert weapon/gadget/class- here in -insert gamemode here- and we are looking into ways to add more variety to the experience.
• We've heard your overwhelming feedback about the change to TA for ranked and we're currently looking at ways to improve the ranked experience for everyone involved. This is a difficult matter because of the current way ranks are calculated and because of the current leaderboards.
• We're currently working on a new variant of a gamemode that should be ready in the next few weeks.

Patch notes like the ones we've gotten today are underwhelming at best and don't give many people hope for the future of the game. I'm no developer so I don't know how extensive certain changes are and how much work is necessary to implement said changes. Right now one of the few strands we have left for upcoming changes is the "Coming soon" button on the world tour screen, but nobody know what it means or when it's going to get here.

[ebon stone]

Cloak feels absolutely unfair and well unbalanced in Terminal attack

[glossy sun]

cloak in general have no place in an fps game

[quick coyote]

Free game = minimal income. Servers don’t pay for themselves, + Nexon publisher

[hazy shore]

100%

[oak mural]

honestly i have no issues with the cloak i can spot them just fine though i would like it to be more visible when running around cloaked sometimes the Lighting in the buildings etc make them almost fully invisible even while running

[deep summit]

• Remove Terminal Attack (The push game mode is x10 better than your version of Counter Strike)
• If you insist of having Terminal Attack at least make the RS system fair, I'd lose with a high rank team that performs so poorly and I lose -1k+ RS for that, not my fault you can't put players in their respected ranks, not boost them.
• I've even lost with a team that has 20k less RS than the other team and I lose -1000 RS, because you cannot match players of my skill level, and expect me to carry them, play test your game
• If I solo queue I shouldn't go up against a 3,4 or 5 stack, it should only be other solo queue players
• Play Test your game, none of these issues would be present if you did play testing (You can die off spawn in Terminal Attack)
• Add regular ranked
• Better Anti Cheat (DMA Bypasses Easy Anti - Cheat, that's why you have a cheater epidemic)
• Balance
• Skill Based Match Making (Why is there unranked/bronze playing with/against diamonds in ranked)
• A lot of unranked players are cheaters, they ruin ranked for everyone else and once they get banned they make a new account,** Better Anti Cheat or IP Ban is the only solution **
• Remove snipers and melee's <3

The Finals devs are the most incompetent dev team I've ever seen, it's so obvious the issues of the game some playtesting will reveal it, but they don't play test.

[smoky gust]

This

Being left guessing and in the dark feels bad
Im currently having a hard time with the game and the radio silence just makes me loose hope

If i knew my problems will be adressed soon id be excited instead of disappointed when they drop after i might already have given up on it

[fervent onyx]

Please let us use the slot machines in Vegas and also if we carry a chair let a team mates sit in the chair while we carry it - PLEASE EMBARK

[misty jasper]

!? one is a specialty and the other is a gadget.. what even

[next stream]

Last upt 3.3 back rank cashout ?

[vapid fable]

Seconding this. Literally a simple acknowledgement that Terminal Attack isn't working how they wanted it to would let me develop a shred faith in Season 4.
I check SteamDB every day and watch the player count and sentiment continue to decline. I check the patch notes as they arrive and shake my head. I miss what the game was.

[barren coral]

Change stage 2 world tour full wins to rounds given the fact there's way too many leavers now making it impossible for me to complete it

[wet topaz]

game is at lowest daily player count since release atm.....

[crystal storm]

Heavy:

• RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 80
• Winch hook > remove from game, or rework it completely
• Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 1000 to 750
• M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters
• Lewis gun > clean up the recoil pattern to be less aggressive horizontally
• Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you cant instantly kill M's, reduce cooldown

Medium:

• Recon senses > rework to be a single ping like recon nades but originating from the player. 3 charges with a pretty long recovery time.
• Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.3s so it doesnt instantly shoot
• Defib > Remove invincibility time after getting ressed
• FCAR > revert to S1 for recoil/dmg but lower fire rate slightly
• FAMAS > Increase damage drop off range

Light:

• Dash > Add a short cooldown, close to around 1 second

• Throwing daggers > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance, boost initial velocity

• LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate slightly

• 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

• DB > lower damage to S2 damage

• V9S > Lower fire rate but increase damage (1 less shot to kill)

• Explosive mines > damage from multi mines exploding from different sources sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 80.

• Remove aim assist for melee weapons while playing with keyboard and mouse.

• Cash-out should periodically give cash over time in a couple of instances, holding an objective for 90% and then getting it stolen should NOT go without reward.

• Add a "Quick use" option that lets you instantly use some equipment, like thermal vision, dematerialiser, jump pad, APS etc

• Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently, you cant balance the game for TA and CO at the same time, one will always suffer.

[soft valley]

In germany we say, "Du hast geredet wie ein Löwe🦁 "

[proven ibex]

This season is a flop show

[silent fog]

When are you fixing thermal vision?

[thorn elbow]

Still no acknowledgment of the TA failure and plan to bring back cashout in update

GAME IS DEAD

[cold raptor]

serch mach 10 min wtf ?

[stoic roost]

Ranked needs a slight change imo, the points gaining to losing ratio is straight garbage. We lost one match and went down 795, next match we won every round aside from 1. I went 21-2 and only gained 975. So either the losses are too punishing or the winning isn’t rewarding enough.

[charred slate]

Make a skin for the flamethrower !! Holding a dragon spitting fire would be cool af🔥 or the old spray can with the lighter

[gilded bloom]

PLEASE SWITCH THE MAIN MODES OF WORLD TOUR AND RANKED THANK YOU

[ornate wolf]

Take snipers out terminal

[rough herald]

take sniper out of the game in genaral

ok im the that like fighting recon sense ok? because it have interesting interaction to out smart and or out play. sniper on the other hand? just stay in cover lol and if you don't you'll get body shot and now waiting to regen BEHIND COVER (afk sim)

[hazy shore]

the cl40 has to be the second most braindead weapon next to throwing knives

[mossy wharf]

I absolutely agree with your statement. I hope they listen to this. There is nothing giving me any concept what to look forward to. It makes me not want to log in at all anymore.

[acoustic gust]

Nerf those fkn throwing knifes
The Finals?? More like - The Light

[dry wraith]

The riot shield and the dual swords should have a breaking point, like the barricade or the dome shield

[hard shoal]

Who deleted my messages 😡😡
I hate terminal attack mode

[wary storm]

honestly after the silence from embark on key issues and frustrations (but quick to gloss over or make a joke about them), the lackluster patches but pushing the new skins, the issues piling up, i am going do the only thing i can do to help this game. walk away and hope others do to until embark start to address the big issues here. i have tried to keep going and wish the game nothing but the best, i really hope it suceeds, but by playing everyday all i am doing is giving them another player number and watching nothing change. if the numbers drop, the discord goes quiet, they will have to sink or swim, but im not helping this game stay on life support any longer. the reason we have a discord and CMs is to start a dialogue between us and them, but as we see from this channel, there is rarely anything from them.

[drifting gorge]

BUNNY FROM THE FIRST DESCENDANT IS TYPING WHAT THE HELLLLL

[charred ivy]

Glad to see games still around where two , 15k and 25kish players , both hard on aim botting, are boosting a currently 48k player, who is literally not doing anything and moves like a bot. I'll be happy to see all 3 banned. Oh, who am i kidding? We all know best is the booster, cheater account gets banned, and not the one it is playing with, which is very, very dumb.

[solemn light]

All right, lets boycott this game like we did in helldivers 2. If you are on pc put your negative review in even if you have quit. Reddit posts spreading the word. They dont want to address the issue? Fine. Lets show them the power of banding together

[vale acorn]

Make a 10v10 rush mode please and thank you

[echo spire]

why'd they remove the extra contestant glitch 😭 i just wanted to get an extra light build instead of an extra heavy but now I just have the normal amount

just add more build slots embark 🙏 there are so many outfits (and weapons), 6 contestants just aren't enough

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

skill issue below

[acoustic gust]

Your name is literally removeTA the only one having skill issue is you and you cope hard

[vague tide]

90% of these suck boooo

[surreal meadow]

• Has VAC ban
• Clips shown of aim cheats (self pov and enemy pov)

Why the fuck did yall unban him again??

[idle geyser]

Yet another week without a real patch. No dev notes on TA or anything. Zero balancing. This game is going to die for sure. They have given up.

[proven parcel]

Nothing in patch notes. Game feels horrible compared to previous versions. Week after week with no real attempt to balance. I’m certain embark doesn’t even want terminal attack at this point.

[charred ivy]

RPG Dmg could be reduced, but it must have 2 charges in that case. it'd make it balanced to be honest, instead of an insta-kill machine. Also, destruction area should be increased (even, aoe damage should be increased) in that case.
I also understand it is summer time, dev process is expected to be lower capacity.

But saying you want to do lots of cashout changes to test out in a non-ranked mode so that is the reasoning for TA ranked is.. well, we knew it is bullshit, but this just makes it sure you were lying.

Sure, world tour is fine, let the casuals love their thing. But as a ranked only player, this kills the minimal motivation to play. I enjoy playing against my skill level, currently only TA has that, and even then 90% of the matches are one sided, or has a cheater in them.

And please, lets not say "world tour has ranking". it does not. Sure it will make you feel good that you got to certain point in it, but it is not a ranked mode. It is a system to make casuals feel good, and honestly? It is good! Let people feel good, let people try out "tournament" mode, just call it something else.

But taking away ranked mode, and shifting it to TA did nothing good, besides showing how many people are actually wallhacking i guess, becaues that became pretty obvious in most games.

I guess not many play, it is very rare to have a balanced match at 45-50k+ rating where i'm currently at, but when there are no cheaters, the stars align, and there is not a fix 5-stack in the enemy team.. It is.. okay. It is still not a good mode, but it can be enjoyed. Cashout is much better, though.

Thing is, stars align maybe once every 50 games. Not good.

[glacial sierra]

i enjoy sniping and im' reasonably decent with sniper rifle, but fuck me if the sniper rifles in their current form don't absolutely ruin this game.

[tribal bear]

getting spawn killed by a sniper in powershift is not fun like PLEASE fix that
randomize spawns

[shy token]

Embark, you recently released the Hazard Duty bundle. It came to my attention that the 'risky sticks' charm is a charm. How dare you.

It is a perfectly good skin for C4.

very disappointed, I will be reporting you

[cosmic ether]

It would be nice if glitch grenades/barrels had some sort of counter like most of the other grenade/barrel types; this is more of a powershift issue, but it's absolutely unfun when you have a 5 stack of lights on the other team all spamming the same grenade type or constant glitch barrel spam back to back. At least with traps you can shoot them.

[final solar]

I have an idea to spice a little bit things up : a new rule. the cashbox that you play for in the final round starts at 10k lets say, and every kill that is made for this box brings up its value. So if it's 10K and kills are made the value of the box goes from 10k to 11k for exemple, and it goes on and on while the box isn't cashed out.

It would incite people to fight around this box to get the highest value possible, and it would certainly create new strategies and new ways to play the final round.

[flint jungle]

You should look for another community leader.

For the results that the current one is giving... Maybe with another one you would have a better relationship with the community and player retention would increase.

For now I am about to uninstall the finals and remove arc riders from the wish list. I am not interested in playing games from a company that does not have good feedback from players.

[crystal storm]

Heavy:

• RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 80
• Winch hook > remove from game, or rework it completely
• Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 1000 to 750
• M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters
• Lewis gun > clean up the recoil pattern to be less aggressive horizontally
• Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you cant instantly kill M's, reduce cooldown

Medium:

• Recon senses > rework to be a single ping like recon nades but originating from the player. 3 charges with a pretty long recovery time.
• Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.3s so it doesnt instantly shoot
• Defib > Remove invincibility time after getting ressed
• FCAR > revert to S1 for recoil/dmg but lower fire rate slightly
• FAMAS > Increase damage drop off range

Light:

• Dash > Add a short cooldown, close to around 1 second

• Throwing daggers > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance, boost initial velocity

• LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate slightly

• 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

• DB > lower damage to S2 damage

• V9S > Lower fire rate but increase damage (1 less shot to kill)

• Explosive mines > damage from multi mines exploding from different sources sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 80.

• Remove aim assist for melee weapons while playing with keyboard and mouse.

• Cash-out should periodically give cash over time in a couple of instances, holding an objective for 90% and then getting it stolen should NOT go without reward.

• Add a "Quick use" option that lets you instantly use some equipment, like thermal vision, dematerialiser, jump pad, APS etc

• Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently, you cant balance the game for TA and CO at the same time, one will always suffer.

[fossil tundra]

An option to select the game music from older seasons would be nice. I just can’t get used to the season 3 music. It’s nice, but nothing comes close to the amazing season 2 soundtrack. I miss that a lot. 🥲

[somber axle]

Same dude, the developers were cooking on the OSTs, i wish this "select the game music" feature exist 😔

[elder folio]

Buuuuuuump

[dense laurel]

@cosmic ether ay yo God what's up? Did you get my prayer yet... 😢

[quick coyote]

Ah

[mellow talon]

Instead of this dumbass fucking TA put Cashout as ranked back. Stop ruining your game and start running community polls on this shit. Your game will grow a lot more the more you involve your community. There’s a reason you’ve lost over 400k plus players in the last month. This game has so much fucking potential it’s unbelievable but you guys are pissing it away because you wanna be like every other game. The Finals is unique. That’s what makes the game good. You don’t need a plant the bomb mode. You don’t need any of that bullshit. You have an opportunity to actually change FPS gaming but you wanna just capitalize on an over saturated niche game mode. I promise you no one is gonna go out of there way to play TA. They’ll just play CS, Val, R6, Cod. ITS ALREADY ESTABLISHED. STOP. RUNING YOUR GAME.

[proven ibex]

They lost their minds...

[smoky gust]

The cl-40 nerf made it pretty much unuseable imo

You should turn the cl-40 into something like tf2's loch n load

Doesn't deal splash damage unless it hits a player directly
(But make sure it still damages structures on direct hit to keep its destruction niche)
If it hits directly, it deals the usual splash damage to anything in the usual area
Increase the damage on direct hits (maybe 130 so you can shoot+quick melee lights? So it doesnt feel bad to face lower rate of fire) to adequately reward the increased skill floor

It will be less spammy and more skillful, because it now requires direct hits and you cant just shoot your feet anymore
At the same time it should be reasonably effective against all classes and not just lights, leaving it an overall better balanced state

[random sky]

give us our ranked cashout back!

[oblique sand]

I think ranked should be multiple modes, like TA, Cashout, Power Shift, and maybe Bank It too. I don't see any reason why there can't be multiple modes for ranked

[neon kettle]

That new schematic skin is so cool, fcar maybe?

And please let us get the fcar diamond skin some way, like get the weapons to reroll on the ranked rewards pleaseeeee.

Last season ranked was painful

[dire scaffold]

Would love to see more map modes. I love the suspended structures. More things to shake up the existing maps would be fun.

[crisp garnet]

ehm... where are Cashout changes to make it good and rankable?
edit: also this patch is 3.2.1 not 3.3.0

[solemn light]

Indeed, probably have to do with the fact that they want people to play on weekends to increase their counts & the fact that the xp boost has helped people complete the battle pass and dip. Im level 70 in the battle pass and i honestly dont play as much as last season

[cosmic ether]

I think it got delivered to the wrong address :^)

[compact current]

No patch talking about getting stuck in loading screens? It seems like a common issue and enough to deter players from playing the game If they have to consistently relaunch the game??

[inland cove]

pls delete sniper i am sick of running across the whole map to contest them just so they use grapling hook to run away and beeing forced onto sniper is not the solution

[upper citrus]

why did you make terminal attack ranked

[frank kernel]

This game has been unplayable for me as of late. Constant lag, to the point that people are appearing in front of me out of thin air. Something went wrong in the last patch.

[mild token]

ay bros, im done with working and i wanna play some chill games. so i got errord out of a game and now i have a cooldown... why? i coulnt reconnect (took me 1 min to try reconnecting..

[charred ivy]

Would love it if points won with a cheater were removed once they are banned, for both teams, the match was made like it did not happen at all.

[nocturne sphinx]

Hey Embark, here's some feedback for cosmetics, why haven't we gotten an Ospuze Soda can launcher for the grenade launchers and a Soda can grenade yet? Med and Heavy have these bright yellow launchers, meds load cans into their launcher and heavies shake up the drum before they load it. Also the grenade idle could be the character shaking up the can getting it ready to pop when you toss it. Just my 1 cent though. Also I hope the server issues can be identified and fixed, constant rubber banding sucks...

[somber axle]

BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT
Seriously if the game follows up a trend like Search & Destroy shooters it will die, when the game literally never fit for the gamemode at all

You guys know that Games that are following trends and not doing original ideas or what they're used to be unique with, dies faster?!? Right?!?

[desert gate]

how is the new patch?

[mighty cedar]

fix the game

[simple schooner]

these r terrible bro you have 0 game sense

[lofty tartan]

Painfull, genuinly painfull

[pseudo breach]

Day 85 of asking for South African servers

[woeful arch]

The reason why Power Shift is still imbalanced at the core and made me cringe for a while (still cringing on this point): if you're going to innovate on the game mode where players have to carry a moving object from point A to point B, and your innovation is to make this object go up in the air, by all means ensure that all classes have an equal chance to reach that platform when it's stuck up in the air. I cannot count the amount of times when my Heavy class is dumbfound on the floor because it has zero solution to get back on the platform, and the enemy team has one Medium with a jump pad/zipline or a Light with a Grapplin hook and boom they win. Please Embark, give us some extra node around the map so Heavies can jump too back up on a Power shift platform. The game mode isn't fair to Heavies queuing solo as it is, since there's no guarantee of a Mid or Light appropriately equipped for this purpose in this condition. Heck I had Medium and Light teammates who had the jump pad/zipline/grapplin hook and couldn't be bothered getting on the platform, preferring to snipe or do whatever nonsense on floor. Please balance Powershift for Heavies. Please, please, please and thank you.

[iron folio]

That’s supposed to be the heavy’s weakness and it’s a team game so obviously solo queuing will lower the chance that your mediums place schmooves for you. The real issue is that TA still exists

[fierce elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHK4mUvYjzI

[inland cove]

pls delete sniper
it takes no skill the way it is rn and gets way to much value out of that. pls at least make it a projectile

[jade inlet]

3 Grouped up rubies should not be in a lobby with silver and golds. It's a bad experience for everyone

[thorn kelp]

Goo Gun?! Anti-Gravity Cube?!

Are we even playing the same game?!

[tawny oriole]

Verify console palyers, many are using cronus zen they have rapidfire and strong aim assist. I play the finals since close beta and i know if some one is cheating or not. @dusty zodiac

[acoustic hedge]

does anyone know why the finals isnt working on my pc ? ive deleted & reinstalled, i checked file integrity, made sure my drives are up to date, and even ran game as admin & nothings working... Any help would be appreciated because im stuck. Everything i checked on my end was fine & up to date

[uneven rampart]

We need warglaives for dual blade skins LETS GO DEMON HUNTERS!

[tribal socket]

Fr

[woeful arch]

I loved TA last season because it was packed 5v5 for most matches, this season there's too many leaves half-way matches and being a game mode that has no backfill role, it just means you're going to have a loss when it happens on your team side. I queue TA much less now because of that, maybe once per session or less.

My reaction to "it's supposed to be heavy's weakness" was "Heavy's weakness is to be the only class not able to play the game mode properly?" But I get you. It explains why I don't see many people queuing as Heavy on Power Shift, favoring Little and Medium when queuing solo. It's too bad because it's an amazing gameplay. The lack of solution for pushing the platform is getting to me though. I might end up queuing exclusively Medium/Light because I like focusing the platform and having a fair shot at reaching it.

@thorn kelp "Are we even playing the same game?!" We might be playing the same game, it doesn't mean that we play the same way or see the same things done in the game, hence my posts on the feedback channel. Sarcasm aside, Goo Gun will never help get back on a platform that's several feet up in the air with nothing around it, not a single build or structure. I also personally have never seen a Heavy use the Anti-Gravity Cube to reach back the Power Shift platform, I actually seldom see the Anti-Gravity Cube used at all across all game modes ever since the feature launch last season. I will give it a shot moving forward and share feedback accordingly.

[glossy jasper]

More ruby players than diamond is crazy

[sick pier]

Yeah, I want to enjoy this game but mid -low spec PCs absolutely cannot play this game. Why would I play when lag throws off my aim and ruins the gameplay experience

[iron berry]

Make game feedback a forum channel :)

TA is not going to be removed right away because it’s the ranked mode, ranked has already started, people have their ranks, there would be a big problem if they just cut it out the picture as of right now

(Referring to the post below me)

[peak pine]

Embark dumb af their not going to listen. I was hoping for TA to be remove today. We did a whole survey for no damn reason

[fervent citrus]

TY for removing the requirement for new players to complete 3 games of TA before being able to try the actual game modes the finals is known about.
Season 3 changes are mostly good. Health regen values, guardian turret change, glitch mine rework, and gadget changes are all good. Alongside some minor weapon tweaks and improvements to useability such as KS-23 pump rate.

Now the bad.
Remember when cloak light db spam that can 2-shot any class in S1? Well, now we have throwing knives (nobody still uses the alt-fire post nerf only spam), bow with no falloff, and db is back to being able to 2-shot any class.

Remember when light stun gun spam giving free kills? Well, now we have the winch claw for heavy that not only stuns, but also pulls and allows them to do a survivable point blank rpg.

What happened to the "long ttk" gameplay?

The CL40 was given a damage nerf and a fire rate buff, making it one of the second lowest dps to the lowest dps weapon. The only possible reason for this is due to it's burst being too good in TA but in TTK, it's one of the slowest and will lose most duels if not careful. It counters L, mid to M, and weak to H. This change made it unable to fight heavies at all. The pump rate and fire rate would also be considered as a nerf as due to it depleting the 4 rounds quicker and spending more time instead with the long reload.

In s2 ranked, despite it being a poor pick, I still brought it to plat. It's main gimmick is despite the low dps, you need to play safely/area denial/insane movement and learn its trajectory for mid-long shots. Before the change, the fire rate, reload, and ammo was low but it was rewarding to hit direct hits.

Overall. Didn't care about TA, but if core game and balance changes are catered to it instead of the core gameplay of the game it will mess up balances for other modes. Showing more that, already built gameplay and balance isn't fit for it. Most of the patch felt like tossing out the balance work made during s1 and s2.

[cold lotus]

EMBARK WHAG IS YOU DOING

[vapid summit]

#removeTAranked

[wicked pond]

fix matchmaking why do i get a guy who throws flowerpots and stays in the same place the entire game

[silent fog]

Please just revert to cash out ranked. This is just emberassing at this point.

[sudden tangle]

MAKE WORLD TOUR COMPETITIVE RIGHT NOW. GIVE IT REWARDS, CONVERT THE LEADERBOARD INTO RATING. OR YOUR GAME WILL FKING DIE

14,055 In-Game IS A FKING JOKE. THESE LAST PATCHES HAVE BEEN A FKING JOKE. 0 COMMUNICATION ON ANYTHING ACTUALLY IMPORTANT. STOP VACATIONING, YOUR GAME IS DYING. SEASON 3 IS A TERRIBLE FKING JOKE.

@dense laurel ye I know, im just mad. this game has so much potential, for some reason, the dumbest choices are being made.

[celest holly]

customisable player death figurines!!! could have some really cool cosmetics for the models

[dense laurel]

Jeez bro chill. Take some OS-FREEZE to cool off.

[junior crater]

The launch of season 3 was very stable for me, but the last 2 (smaller) patches of the game have broken more and more things, especially with

• loading times after a match / stuck in loading even when the match started
• character sound effects not playing properly in team presentation and announcer voices in map presentation

[upper citrus]

Not even ruby players enjoy this mode LOL

[obsidian shell]

I was searching for your strange name 00#0000 because I suspected that you were the one doing it, but you are accusing me of doing so, even though in one week I reported 10 cheaters and my words were confirmed to be true. I am sorry that I did not report you. next time I will make sure to do that. @zinc scarab

[stoic roost]

Mines should be visible in Thermal Vision, it’s stupid that every carriable is but not mines

[plain shard]

Be able to change 3000 VRS to 100 Multibucks

[timber stag]

PLEASE EMBARK DO WHAT HE SAID

[inland cove]

those dont work in a situation like that or even powershift as a game mode all together.
goo gun leaves you with no good specialisation to defend the platform and aniti-grav as an elevator is just suicide

[pseudo light]

The amount of cheaters in this game is incredible

[quartz dirge]

I’ve seen a grand total of one cheater

[thorn kelp]

It's also a good gadget to get people off the platform when it's moving or forcing them to reposition in the platform

Just play Sledgehammer + Goo Gun if you're so worried about no good specialization being used

[forest viper]

I would love to be able to edit my contents name for my loadouts, instead of Heavy, Heavy 2, Heavy 3, etc. different play styles for different game modes

[cold lotus]

EMBARK WHAT IS YOU DOIN WHAT IS THIS CAMOS

[cursive oxide]

Goo Gun ain’t it. I never die to that combo 🤷🏻‍♂️

[iron coyote]

idk what gun but i want something with a baraka sight. scar and mp5 are ok but i want some crispy ass sights yo

[zinc scarab]

Lets see, you are stating very irrelevant things. You reported 10 people, congratulations? Nobody asked and nobody cares. I still don't understand why you're messaging me for sending a report to Embark?
Also check comments on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuDXNAUhu_8

[distant grove]

congratulations embark, every week you found yourself destroying the game and losing players.
Keep it up and in a short time you will close servers due to lack of players, you just have to look at the number of players online, in a relatively new game

[viscid river]

I haven't been able to play cuz of the whole SecureBoot thing...

[delicate marlin]

Defib wouldn’t be annoying if you could shoot the statue to stop the player from being revived

[pulsar knot]

i think the lights should have damg fall off on or at least more.

[quick coyote]

1. Bring back cashout ranked tournaments
2. Make Medium the meta again.
3. Nerf dash and cloak on lights
4. Remove Terminal attack from the game.
5. Esports scene.
6. SBMM
7. More **advertising **
8. Limited time modes like **prop hunt. **
9. More communications from the developers.
10. More unique modes like Cashout.
11. Orientation for new players.
12. New mode idea: **Cashpoint: ** 3v3v3 teams fight to **capture and hold points ** to earn cash. 1000$ earned every 5 seconds. Point changes every 45 seconds. No respawn times. First team to 40,000$ or most cash after 15 minutes wins.
13. Optimization : I suggest updating the game engine to 5.4 in a future patch, as well as updating all available upscaling solutions to newer versions like DLSS to 3.7.0, XeSS to 1.3, and FSR to 3.1. UE 5.4 brings more optimizations which make the performance better and that should improve the general game experience for people in combination with the updated better upscalers. Also, add DirectStorage api to improve loading, there are times where all players are stuck to a loading screen for the match due to singular users with slower machines, and DiSto can eliminate/lower that.

More love

[upper citrus]

less terminal attack

[snow falcon]

GET RID OF SECURE BOOT
I cannot play the game anymore since my computer doesn't have the ability to launch secure boot. Cheat makers are not challenged by secure boot anymore, just look at EFT. I physically can't play this game since I don't have a compatible drive, and it only started giving me problems a few days ago, get rid of it or at least put it in your goddamn system requirements ffs.

[gilded bloom]

survivorship bias

[daring fossil]

you were flagged, secureboot stops malicious shit from loading at boot. Every motherboard in the last 20 years probably has secure boot. If you're on legacy mode, then you need to convert your drives, that's not your computers issue, or embarks problem.

[iron berry]

Make #👂┇game-feedback channel a Forum channel

This would make it:

1. Easier to look at

2. Allow for conversation about new ideas and issues

3. I don't have to have my message buried by people writing entire paragraphs about how much they hate Terminal Attack

4. Please

[mossy otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183069658086117447/1258032964030304297/REMOVETARANKtm_2.gif

[glacial knot]

OMG how much braindead in this fking game. Add in the tutorial this is the finals not call of duty its not only about kills. Use your brain and have fun

[versed hazel]

I keep encountering a bug where I'm stuck on the loading screen splash but I can hear the match start/continue through the audio

[smoky gust]

if i dare exist near a winch claw heavy they reel me in and kill me
nothing i can do besides just never fighting to begin with (if anyone does have a plan, please hit me up)
similar story with melee and stun gun

[full sail]

i have to ask, has anyone suggested making the ability trails, like the dash particles, team colored? seeing an enemy light dashing with blue trails is confusing AF.

[gentle cove]

I don't know if it's ever even considered to be added. Gun modifying. That would be pretty good addition

[rugged fiber]

Can we get a bubble blower gun skin for the lewis gun and a balloon skin for the sword

[obsidian prism]

melee weapons:

[dusty patio]

yo

[deep summit]

Skill based match making is vital for high player population, I played a game with 3 rubys 2 plats against 2 golds and 3 silvers, those golds and silvers wouldn't want to play the game after losing 7-0.

[olive fulcrum]

I wish you care as much about promoting good game modes as you do about good cosmetics

[pseudo latch]

Day 106 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

In other news

[paper oak]

buff the revolver with 2+dmg or let it shoot like fanning the hammer

[glacial knot]

Every fucking battle always one dumb player what the fuck is this fucking arrgorithm. So good players should boost bad players you think with this script you can avoid sbmm . OMG

[modern pivot]

Bank It games fly by very fast. Sometimes games end before even passing the 5 minute mark. On top of that, the game is pretty luck based where teams can find a large pile of cash and run off. Maybe a team wipe cash deduction system like in tournament could help?

[burnt notch]

All I’m reading is fuck fuck fucking fuck bad player, fuck fuck sbmm fucking fuck fuck OMG

[gritty owl]

sounds good, but 2 bullets per s/100s reload sounds like a horrible experience

[warped cedar]

We need a gun skin randomizer

[hollow breach]

give us the option to the disable the audience yelling please 😭

[raven topaz]

so I play with an unranked full squad that did no damage, while I did a ton, report all of them for insulting and get in the next game with them. Reporting them means i would like to play again I guess. Update: I got in with them again, so 3 times

[ashen sparrow]

Fing fix this matchmaking and fing elo I shouldn't be losing almost 2k for dropping 21 kills

[paper stream]

Embark, you should make lights kill you when they turn in your direction. It's too hard right now. They struggle to make 30 kills per game, do something to help them out.

[crystal umbra]

Add colors to the game and remove others

Take Coral out the game

Add red to cashout
Add green
Add yellow
Make orange & yellow differentiate good between the two easily

Pink and coral being in the same match is kinda annoying

[fringe hatch]

Game rewards your audacity 😂

[thorn kelp]

Tbh, 80% of these comments are all skill issues and they just don't wanna have fun

[limber hinge]

Bro this game is so bad rn you need to take sonar out the game bc rn I have basically wall hacks on this one kid for the rest of the game I see his red outline no matter where he is

[timber solstice]

Feels like every weapon outside of light is super mid now. Was hype at the beginning of this season but thats worn off now. State of the game is looking grim

[mossy token]

Is it a known bug that when you connect to the game you are left at the loading screen but you hear sounds from the game??

[weary hemlock]

agree

[upper citrus]

Me when the class designed to get kills gets kills 🤯

[celest nimbus]

@timber solstice 👍

[snow trail]

Wow, game just got updated and Im still CRASHING just because. 10/10, fucking hate it

[quick coyote]

That's because this is now a barebones team working on it, I 100% believe they're all but moving on from The Finals. Enjoy the time left for what you can because its not super long.

[digital sinew]

I think the majority of the players are missing the point that this a team-based game means you need to depend more on your teammate than playing solo,if you get killed let's say maybe you are camping on a roof or something and a light came and butchered your face you know maybe you're out of position And you are fighting way too far from your teammates or your team Comp is bad like keep playing the three lights or no healing or no chance of Reviving or no heavy to be the initiator
perhaps you need to learn how to use voice chat more I think it's the problem with the individuality

[burnt notch]

Yea it’s one of the reasons why I think text chat shouldn’t have been added, so far I’ve seen no one use it effectively other than to call their teammates idiots

@wind briar finalist isn’t even an ore

[wind briar]

instead of a ruby rank, you should´ve gone for a finalist rank. what a waste of brain cells

@burnt notch it doesnt need to be an ore, its just a rank, a medal for your hours of grinding

[trim ginkgo]

Can We Please Get Rid of Taser It's the most broken thing in this game

[severe linden]

2nd game that ended writhing 1 minute, this evening. I’m having fun:)

[thorn kelp]

Oscar is here in the #💥┇spawn-point channel

If any of yall want some questions perhaps answered

[violet elbow]

make ruby require diamond, this looks stupid.

[rugged fiber]

Yo for funny purposes can we get a flame thrower skin that looks a
Like a fire extinguisher

[crystal umbra]

Loosing hope.

[stone nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHK4mUvYjzI&ab_channel=Jinko everything wrong with riot shield

[olive fulcrum]

World Tour is so boring. I win the whole tourney almost everytime because it matches me against normies.

S3 is ironically built for casuals.

[paper stream]

The most boring season for me. I only jump to do dailies (3 games) and can't stand playing any longer.

[viral quiver]

can we get a underhand shooting animation for the bow

[dusk scarab]

Hello, just joined. Where can i submit feedback for an annoying bug that happens in game every time? On PS5 in terminal attack during prep time, it wont let me press square ( pick up stuff nor reload)

[ashen sparrow]

Please fix this elo ffs

[indigo oracle]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DirtyArborealFlamingoPanicVis-41k6boCLNLKl_UAW
New bug

[fathom mesa]

as a casual player that haves 150h playtime, and plays light and med heal, i really enjoyed the game on S1 and S2, but only when i play with friends, soloQ is impossible to enjoy for me, not a single time. But for the very first time, even with friends (mainly duoQ, with 1 random) the game makes us angry very fast, and we dont play for very long (we try to play everyday, usually a session is 2 to 4 hours long but now its more like 30mns to 1hr max) mainly due to some (in our opinion) overpowered weapons, expecially melee/hook heavies, but the main problem may be the random teammate that is 90% of the time actually braindead (sorry but its true). The problem is that we are too casuals to play ranked and dont want to ruin other teammate games because of our skill, so we have to suffer playing with an actual neuronless AI and it gets unplayable. Another problem is the backstab meta wich gets out of control, we dont want to use this strat since we dont find it funny. But 1 loose out of 3 is because of backstabs of teams that wait until the lasts seconds to play.

So yeah the main problem are because of players, so i dont really know what you can do about it.
And for people that will scream skill issue: i dont have the time to play more to get better and play ranked.
Thanks for reading this.

Btw i love this game that why i still have hope and still plays it ! Cant wait for future updates

edit: also TA is irrevelant on this game and shouldnt even exist, im for real

[deep summit]

Add Skill Based Match Making just played a 160k RS vs 250k RS (5 Rubies) lost ofc

[lilac frost]

please for the love of god remove class stacking already.

[iron berry]

Make ⁠👂┇game-feedback channel a Forum channel

This would make it:

Easier to look at

Allow for conversation about new ideas and issues

I don't have to have my message buried by people writing entire paragraphs about how much they hate Terminal Attack

Please

and dont remove class stacking

[topaz jetty]

Would be neat to see the top performing player on the losing team in ranked not lose any points. The amount of times I get paired with gold and silver players is getting absurd at this point

[merry tartan]

Yo devs we want a skin based off this streamer https://youtu.be/ybbH-VUo3Bc?si=Yvevj1xnXxlgPTkx

[crystal umbra]

i only got my placement in terminal attack and never touched it again. Cashout is just more fun, why would i play TA for real.

Gameplay wise? Nothing beats the finals. A good mix of Strategy/IQ and mechanics.

Direction wise, this bitch needs help.

[vernal swallow]

cmon embark, I’ve been playing since the open beta and have loved every season (especially season 1) but with every season the balancing just gets weirder and weirder, you had another weekly update and yet there was nothing but some bug fixes and honestly I’m really starting to loose hope in my favorite game, I haven’t played for a while now since well every time I do play I don’t end up having fun like I used too, and it’s not because of boredom because if we had season 1 again I know I’ll have as much fun as I used too

so please just focus on balancing right now because if your game can’t be fun to play with all the cheesy meta and annoying weapons and gadgets then no one is going to want to play because this game isn’t supposed to be a sweat fest of who can do the meta better, it’s supposed to be a fun refreshing fps game that’s different from all the other terrible fps games on the market right now

[olive fulcrum]

I only end up logging on once or twice a week. And I used to be religious about this game.

Now that there is little challenge in cashout, I just don't want to play the game since I enjoy playing to improve my skills. It is hard to do that when you're hardly challenged.

TA is irrelevant.
||(TA is not The Finals to me. It actually made me just go back to playing R6 Siege. The Finals is not a tactical shooter. That's its greatest strength in modern context. )||

[gloomy cave]

RIP the finals I loved you while you lasted

[quaint forge]

Can you guys make nama tama do the thug shaker

[river hill]

S3 is going great!!!

[waxen tusk]

bring back ranked cashout

[jagged cedar]

ranked ta has completely killed over half of what little competitive playerbase this game had

[next flax]

Just want to say that making the starter pack cos money instead of coins is not a gamer move

[molten salmon]

[pastel ravine]

why can the host only invite players / make it so everyone can be so much easier

[digital shoal]

M-Wah. Love you guys. Thanks for sucha great AND FREE game.

[iron berry]

Make ⁠👂┇game-feedback channel a Forum channel

This would make it:

Easier to look at

Allow for conversation about new ideas and issues

I don't have to have my message buried by people writing entire paragraphs about how much they hate Terminal Attack

Please

[random crystal]

Can we have a lactating emote?

[hard bridge]

world tour feels so unbalanced, please queue 3 stacks in a different match than solos please

[upper citrus]

Finally a good suggestion

[edgy urchin]

day 5 of asking for embark to balance the classes weapons (especally light cough cough)

[haughty niche]

i just played a game where i queued as swordlight
game starts
stuck on loading screen
once i reconnected my class got changed to default med with no skins and default gadgets
could we consider fixing this?

[vernal path]

✨If the team that holds the cashout get team wiped it will add 15 sec to the timer of that cashout ✨

[thorn elbow]

day infinite of asking for RANKED CASHOUT

[civic wing]

I like how there is a game announcement about ruby when it’s so not worth it when hackers, full teams of 5s are taking advantage of the fact that the competitive players refuse to play that game mode including myself hence there is no competition I don’t even feel like logging in anymore bc there is no sense of progression or something to adquiere bc the game mode that provides that drive is unplayable and mind bending boring and slow

[urban sparrow]

CONNECTION FAILED
Your login attempt failed. Please try again.
Error code TFLA0021

I can NOT play the game at all, due to this error!

Please help

[hexed night]

I thought Embark was going to make big changes to Cashout to better balance the game since there’s no “Ranked” but I haven’t seen anything so far ?

[abstract ember]

new skins are sick, though i wish that all the drawings were animated on the Luminous Riot skin rather than just the sticker

[cobalt coyote]

Yeah, they say one thing but do another, classic

[ionic saddle]

Ffs get rid of this ranked game type no one asked for the finals to turn unto valorant or CSGO

[verbal kayak]

I've completely accepted ranked TA is a placeholder for ranked cashout coming back improved. That's okay. But can we please look at balancing? Many of the new items/gadgets are showing signs of frustrating design decisions that FPS games have made. My biggest gripe in terms of the new additions this season is the hook. It should be a gadget and not affect players. This game is getting very out of hand with how much soft CC there is.

Hook is overwatch roadhog hook 1.0. Calculations being done server side leads to ridiculous things happening, being hooked through walls or the hook not working when it very clearly should on your screen. I've said it before and I'll say it again, hard stuns and displacement like this have no place in fps games, and this isn't a hero shooter. Otherwise, the new additions are hit or miss. Spear is okay, the bow is fine, but the dual blades essentially having a genji deflect on a toggle with no cooldown leads to guns being very ineffective in lobbies where they're being used. And since we can't swap from reserve on tournament rule cashout, this stinks.

Re think the new glitch mine and sonar buffs. I think the new glitch mine either needs a health bar like the APS turret that drains as it glitches, or don't give the person who put it down a hit marker when it's activated. It's basically a trip mine version of a tracking dart, and the radius of it is really large.

Revert sonar grenade radius buff. Not sure why this happened to begin with considering how prevalent light is this season. It turns every engagement into a game of cat and mouse and makes making plays to siege/drop/raise/move cashouts very impractical because you're spammed with DETECTED the whole time because the radius is so large.

[stuck rock]

still wondering if they will ever buff lewis cuz its recoil isnt justified for its dmg

[quick coyote]

Damm, ya'll only know how to cry because of changes instead adapting to them, that's why this game dead, sadly

[smoky gust]

Yeah, cc really isnt fun

[limber hinge]

Bro your game is dying and quick

[plain lotus]

Why was there no balance update for the past 2 weeks? Your certain everything is fine? You don't have to listen to the whiners in here like ~ Lost ~ or BeepBoop, but just look at match analytics and usage rate, that's all

[tough merlin]

#game-announcements message

"It's good to note that doing this for Season 3 gives us a chance to work on Cashout and make vital improvements to the mode that would have been difficult to do when it’s locked into ranked for a whole season. This will give us a chance to make Cashout more viable as a competitive mode in the future."

Just linking for where it was said at.

[ionic saddle]

Translation: We're gonna use a generic overused format for ranked that doesn't work in this game instead of just making tweaks ahead of time in during season 2.

[jaunty dome]

Anyone else skipping more than usual with this update?

[stuck rock]

i dont think it makes sense for heavy to heal only 100 health dispite the huuge hitbox while light gets like 70% health back and heals faster. this isnt even acounting for movement and snipers that can completly shut down a heavy 10 seconds into the game, i find it unfair when i spawn in and i get headshot for 210 dmg, loosing all of my temp health and being forced to get out classed by everyone imeditally, not even the rocket launcher is this bad becasue at least you have to see eachother to actually use the rocket. a sniper literally is free especially due to heavys hitbox. pleeease give heavy more temp health or nerf light stuff. love the game, dont like the ballance choices.

[flat solstice]

One thought on progression. You've provided an end-of-season XP boost for battle pass and contracts for S2 which was cool for lesser active players. I'd like to see this game take a page from XDefiant and provide XP boost items maybe in exchange for max VRs or a regular weekend XP boost for playing matches. These XP boosts can apply not just for career/battle pass levels but also for gadget/spec XP (excluding contracts). This combined with additional progression levels beyond level 60 (even without cosmetic rewards) would help provide additional reasons for contestants to log in consistently beyond LTMs and grinding leaderboards.

[jagged cedar]

in the season where half the ranked playerbase is completely gone, some of the worst balancing decisions have been made (buffing lh1 and nerfing 93r), feedback from previous weapons have been completely ignored and introduced as new weapons and specs (winch being a stun mechanic and bow being spammable like tks), one of embark's first patches decides to nerf dagger of all things

[upbeat salmon]

When playing ranked (I’m sure all have been aware and have said), teammates leaving is not giving good experiences. Yes after the first round the game recognizes i; however people quit/lose connection in the 2nd 3rd rounds too. It makes it difficult to want to keep playing when in that way, it’s unbalanced.

[quick coyote]

They won't take you seriously if you still don't realize the LH1 is actually worse than it was in S2. Please stop with this lol. It was ungodly for a week. And then it was worse than S2 when they nerfed the damage back down and left the lowered rate of fire.

[glossy pivot]

why if you lose in any way in ranked do you go down? i had most kills least deaths and most support AND a guy on our team left and score was 6-7 why do we still go down at all?

[tough merlin]

because you lost, the same way it works in every ranked game.
You might lose less if you you well but you still lose rs/ranks ect.

[glacial knot]

Next season if you dont add cash out ranked back i will leave the game .

[civic orchid]

game mode rank ... read this matchmaking rank:
my team: silver,silver,gold,gold,gold
enemy team : RUBY, silver , silver, gold , unrenk ...
who made this matchmaking? fire him

[silk cloud]

Pretty underwhelming patch notes considering the amount of bugs you've got being routinely posted here, on your own discord https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1201841543926005810

[feral shell]

Please remove snipers from the game. They’re completely ruining power shift and TA. The game isn’t made for that type of range. Too many rooftops and windows to have to check so you’ll never know where they are until you’re half health.

[oblique sand]

26 seconds is so long for a team respawn, and it feels horrible when my respawn timer is down to one second and then my last teammate dies and then I go all the way back to 26 seconds or whatever, lower it to 15 or 10 or something

[crisp bobcat]

Yeah let’s make third partying easier! Good idea

[quaint forge]

Make nama tama do the thug shaker pls

[indigo pagoda]

Once again asking for heavy to have a deagle or other high caliber pistol, give em a hand cannon

[trim ginkgo]

Taser Removed or Taser Nerf just make it happen

[digital shoal]

Yikes. Getting stuck on the map loading screen while the game starts without you is becoming really common. No choice but to Alt+F4

[night surge]

lmao cry more pls

[amber umbra]

buy an ssd it's never crashed for me

[wheat frigate]

💯 percent, TA ranked was last ditch effort and game is 1,000 percent skeleton crew. Releasing new skins to milk some more money before game dies.

[runic bobcat]

dudes, you should give up, they clearly don't care about our opinion. we either play the effed up game they are turning the finals into, or we move on to something else. sorry to break it to you, let's cut our losses

[young hamlet]

Give mediums dual pistols
That's all I ask for

[graceful hollow]

my face when when they make ruby rank to differentiate the best players from the other 20k diamonds, but now there are less than 150 people even in diamond!!!!!! ohhhh crap what have you done embark...

[oblique sand]

1. third partying happens anyway especially in world tour when there's four teams

2. what are you so passive aggressive, what's your problem? I just had some feedback I wanted to give

[quick coyote]

THE DOUBLE INPUT BUG IS ANNOYING AF

[deep sierra]

Not going to lie but this update is a big L. Was looking forward too some more balance changes inside of terminal attack. And on console at least Xbox there is a bug disabling my ability to sprint and shoot.

[frail kiln]

The finals is very very fun and I like to play it when I can. 🙌

[mortal valve]

honestly need to just say F the season or the update timeline and revamp things like NOW
the game is fully dying as each day passes and noone wants to grind ranked
on top of that the current way they ranking system works and in previous seasons is not about skill or achieving something.
in other games you have to become proficient at the game and build good habits to make your way to the top.
in the finals everyone can get diamond or even ruby now. its just about how much you play and doesn't rely on skill factors at all.

and thats just talking about the ranked system.

not even taking into account that the game is built around being a fast paced arena shooter and NOT slow 5v5 CS style gamemode
They need to look more into how Overwatch does things and incorporate that into the game.
in OW, if you die, the respawn timer is like 6 sec, but then you have to treck across the map to get back to where your team is.
so the amount of time that the player is out of the fight is the same, but they are atleast playing for that time instead of staring at a timer counting down from 25 or whatever it is..

the thing people dont like about cashout is the fact that its constantly BR 3rd party simulator. There is always another team breathing down your neck even if you win a point and cap. the next team will be rolling in right as you are trying to revive.
the easiest way to fix this frustration that players have is to make cashout 2 teams of 5 instead of 4 teams of 3.
it would make balancing spawns alot easier for the devs and it would make the gameplay more understandable for new and casual players.

keep cashout the way it is, but 1 obj, 2 teams of 5, more time per obj and make it 3 total obj's.
whichever team has 2 vaults cashed wins the game. total game time per match would be around 15-20 min
ranked matches in games are generally longer than the casual game types.

[woeful olive]

I massively agree on this point and it really isn't spoken about enough!
The Health regen in ranked is not right. this is why there are so many lights running around
p.s. i'm a light player, but heavy's have no chance against a light sniper with cloak if they only regen to 100 aswell as the light regen to 100

[waxen tusk]

bring back ranked cashout.. terminal attack is not the finals

[timber solstice]

You know you can just turn the colors off, right?

[swift stream]

Nerf the throwing knives, it's still strong

[plain lotus]

Lmao

[ionic bison]

hey guys I simply cant find game for Bank It and I gotta do 6 games of it, since the mission came out(2 weeks ago) I couldnt find a single game, I suggest to change that mission for ppl who has it

[harsh torrent]

Why ranked matchmaking still ass?

[paper oak]

buff the revolver the hipfire is useless or buff it wit h2+ dmg or let it shoot faster like fanning the hammer.

[gritty umbra]

terminal was made the new mode. i placed and havent touched ranked since its actually so bad

[ruby brook]

hey getting errors require secure boot on capable hardware never had this problem before can anybody help

[strange wind]

meta in ranked is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo stale holy moly i cant believe im actually saying i want mediums and heavies back

[young hamlet]

Dude, its 148 on a headshot
Theres no need for a buff

[mortal valve]

I get that a lot of this is easier said than done,
But I think it would be a lot more of a solid base to build from.

The other thing that has bothered me about the game for a while is not letting players switch things from their reserve during a match.
This completely negates the reason for having the reserve..
Picture you are watching a sports team play a match.
and when they do the play it is countered by the other team.
in every sport or game you change your strategy and adapt to the competitors plays.
The way the finals works right now is: call a play or style of loadout > it doesn't work > proceed to get hard countered for the entirety of the match > lose.
I cannot think of any game or sport that has you hard lock into a strategy for the entire match. (but maybe I'm just not cultured enough to know ones that do)

Another thing that has bothered me about the finals, but alot of games overall is that there is this culture now in gaming where people will whine and cry about "X,Y,& Z is broken or OP it needs to be removed or nerfed". This is not a good mindset or way to approach things.
When looking at things that people are saying are broken the workflow should go like this: Is it actually broken or unintended
Yes > fix or patch
No > create a counter/highlight the tools to negate the thing that people are not happy with

An example of this is the fact that people were raging about how hard light invis was hard to see and people were getting worked up about it.
Instead of making the invis easier to see, why not make thermal vision a common utility item for all classes.. and not just util on the class that has the thing that is the problem.
So the people who really hate invis can deal with it while playing the class they like.
Building or creating counters for things is better because people can feel like they have the impact or powers they like while not ruining gameplay.

[orchid abyss]

I hope my feedback gets considered, it took me a 3 days to write and post . Light Class Is Ruining The Fun For Everyone But Themselves, It Needs A Rework ASAP. https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1durl06/light_class_is_ruining_the_fun_for_everyone_but/

[rugged fiber]

Ban him

[glacial knot]

you created TA ranked similar to other shooter games to attract other games players, but you will lose old players like those who have been playing the finals since the close beta if you don't include cash out ranked next season. I guarantee you the finals have lost their charm with this TA garbage.

[tawny oriole]

Ther are many console players using cronus zen strong aim assist and rapidfire script

[quick coyote]

Health regen is exactly what it should be. You still have to do less damage to a light. 150 to 1 and back to 100 is 249 health which is still less than the medium starts with, so no, health regen is fine, stop getting shot lol. A heavy can lose 370 health or wahatever and get 100 back thats 470 health

[paper oak]

bro read, it needs a buff.

[soft flame]

the revolver is great it does not need a buff at all

[lilac bay]

Playing the game right now. Messing around with the SH1900. It feels good to get kills with this gun but it feels really poor.

• You really have to hit both your shots, which I can live with.
• But then the reload animation is so long that if you are running into more than one person, you are pretty boned. I end up with a decent amount of kills but I don't feel valuable because I cant stay in the game after that kill if there are other enemies around (there always are.)

Currently running Cloak because my strategy is that I can use the cloak after the kill to hide and reload somewhere. But it's not really working out so well. I'm down to throw Evade on instead but I want this build to work.

[quick coyote]

people who care about ranked left after the first patch of this season—they realized cashout isnt coming back

[crystal umbra]

SBMM?

Unacceptable.

[warm ivy]

Idk if this is the place to put this but why isn’t there an fcar animation set yet

[hidden tree]

Terminal is ass bring back cash in this season maps are too wide open

[red junco]

For the love of God almighty please make the punishments for rage quitting ranked harsher I swear almost every game I lose a teammate and in turn lose the match please make it to where you don't lose any or much rank at all or just ban the living hell out of the guy that left

[glacial knot]

Lack of players and thats good maybe embark recongize that this TA ranked mode is trash and most players dont want to play it thats why this mode has lack of players. And btw on pc is also the same awfull matchmaking,

[crystal umbra]

KYOTO IS BEAUTIFUL AND FUN

[eternal wigeon]

I sense sarcasm

[river hill]

I vaguely remember Embark telling players to still "try it." Now look at what they did!

[flat solstice]

One thought on expanding Text Chat: I hope it continues to expand to lobby chat, whispering friends/party members.

[sharp willow]

yet another pointless ass update that served ZERO fucking purpose to ranked

[quick coyote]

Game is dead guys just move on or play whats left. Its bareones now. THey didn't make their money, they'll milk it as long as they araen't losing money but there is no more than 10 people working on this game now

@hybrid dock 4 weeks of effectively 0 communication, updates, or follow through on what they said this season was about. Weekly cosmetics still pumping tho. Embark has almost definitely moved the vast majority of resources over to Arc Raiders.

[hybrid dock]

Source?

[outer plover]

There would be no reason why gold ranked games have unranked people.

[jagged cedar]

glitch trap effect shouldnt linger

[iron berry]

Yes it should

[crisp bobcat]

what? you can place in gold. when i did my placement matches i placed in Gold 1. So like, yeah unranked players would be unsurprising in a gold lobby

[versed cloud]

Add more firearms to the game

[quiet frost]

Can you guys please give heavy the smoke grenades (and this one I’ll actually stand by starting now day 1)

[bleak coral]

Embark has never communicated, so don't act like it's a new thing. #⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[cold lotus]

GAMES CRASHIGN AND IM BEING PUNISHED FOR LEaving a match i never joined

[misty nexus]

Game 1 today my heal beam didn't work at all. Game 2 my weapon skin doesn't equip. What is happening?

[feral shell]

give me SBMM plz i cant win with these cats. 3 had 0 kills like halfway thru the match

[gentle dagger]

SneakyWarrior#4913 keep an eye or for this player he is cheating his ass off with on shot kills as a heavy and teleports to spawn

[sleek flame]

Justice

[narrow belfry]

Pls for the love of god change it so anyone can invite anyone without needing to be party leader sheesh it’s so annoying and a horrible feature

[rustic birch]

nerf sniper or take it out of powershift like you did with the heal beam in TA. itd make games 100x better

[stray matrix]

hello
could someone raise my role for posting bugs in bug-reports channel?

[grim patrol]

honestly, not sure sniper should even be in the game anymore, it's not easy to really balance it to be fair when every other gun has been nerfed to stop people from cross mapping with fcar and lewis and stuff. Like at the very least it shouldn't be in TA and power shift.

[olive fulcrum]

The Finals TA is the farthest fall I have ever seen in an FPS. Even out does the disaster that was Halo Infinite. Embark actually got there, nailed it, rapidly producing new things that no one has ever seen before.

Only to throw in the dumpster, light it on fire, and pray to Nexon for another paycheck. Oh brother.

Corporate games ~= Walmart wall Art

[somber axle]

I hope they change this season real quick yo this season is trash 🙏🙏

[wheat frigate]

Guys it’s clear as day that there is a skeleton crew on The Finals now. Just let the game ride if into sunset 🌅. RIP 🪦 The Finals

[cold lotus]

EMBARK WHAT IS YOU DOING

[timid dirge]

The amount of cheaters in this game is insane!

[quick coyote]

Things are getting bad, ranked TA, cheaters, balancing…

[next tundra]

Hello The Finals team, is it possible to add in the wheel communication, "watch out there" or "danger there" instead of "create a breach here"? (Maybe this command is available somewhere but I don't find it, excepted when you point out weapons or opponents). Thanks

[rustic birch]

that would be my ideal fix as well. sniping has no place in this game when you have to dedicate yourself to focusing them by running all the way to their high ground across the map, switching to light to counter snipe, or by simply just letting them pick you off like it seems a lot of ppl do.
its almost every game in powershift that someone is using a sniper..

[brisk flume]

anyone else noticing issue with adding friends?

[lethal osprey]

Double tap ping button to get that command

[tribal plaza]

WE NEED AN OSPUZE CANNED DRINK GADGET THAT BOOSTS PLAYER SPEED BY 25% FOR ALL CLASSES LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grim patrol]

nah, OSPUZETM stimpack, heals higher health amount for lights and less for heavy based on a % with a 1.5 second use animation and like a 90-100 second cooldown

[next tundra]

Thank Billy.
I think of a new game mode (not easy because if we want to stay in the spirit of the game (cash box, cash terminal...).

Well, this mode will be in 2 phases:

1. One team (maybe more, 5 players or 3...) is attacking a bank/safe. The other team(s) defends it.
   To steal the cash in the bank or open the safe or steal the safe the objective has a "health bar" or we need to use a "unlocking key" (so need time to unlock)
   If the defenders succeed to protect until the time is up, they win, else we go on phase 2.
2. The safe/cash is transported on a moving platform or something else and the goal (for the attackers) is to protect the loot until the extraction point (platform moving automatically). The defenders have to stay in the platform aera some time (or kill all the opponents (limited tickets)) or time is up, platform can be slowed down.

This new game mode will be in the next season where the theme will be Western/Medieval and the platform a kind of stagecoach (ok stagecoach VS rocket launcher....)

Have a good day,

Ps: Sorry for my English, I am French.

[olive fulcrum]

Queuing for a game in The Finals is a delightful experience that I eagerly anticipate every time. The thrill of staring at a screen for over 30 minutes, contemplating the meaning of life and whether my internet connection has decided to take a nap, is truly unmatched. I mean, who needs instant gratification when you can master the art of patience and develop a deep bond with your loading screen?

And don't even get me started on the matchmaking algorithm, which is apparently designed to find me the perfect opponent somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle. It's a strategic masterpiece—by the time I finally get into a game, I've strategized every possible move, calculated the trajectory of the moon, and invented a new language. It's a pity the game doesn't reward us with a Nobel Prize for endurance.

But hey, I'm optimistic! Surely, in the next update, they'll introduce a revolutionary feature: an actual queue timer that doesn't operate on geological time scales. Until then, I'll continue my journey through the cosmic abyss of waiting, armed with a sense of humor as sharp as a rubber spoon. Cheers to the developers for making me cherish every precious minute of my life spent staring at a spinning circle of hope.

[quick coyote]

This is funny cause those are some of my friends on the ruby team and they were talking about how broken the matchmaking is cause of this game

[crystal umbra]

I suspect the poor SBMM is because of server issues. The server issues is probably because they had to revert whatever changes they made to the servers when season 3 dropped. Apparently there was a high demand but not anymore.

[rancid cloud]

Fix The Finals not launching on Steam Deck please.

[ivory dagger]

Dear Embark, why did you remove ranked mode for the Cashout mode. I think this mode made the finals what it is. For me as a competitive player this mode was hella fun and engaging. Now i am left with only casual cashout what makes me leave this game. So sad because this game was so refreshing and i still love it. Peace

[elfin karma]

@everyvone

[smoky gust]

Re-rolling daylies should not have been removed

Like ive seen the post about it, sure it didnt offer a lot
But some choice is better than no choice at all

Now my vrs just sit idle again, when i could at least have avoided a "damage with gas" contract if i really didnt wanna use gas that day

[grim patrol]

an interesting idea, to expand on it more, maybe something similar to TA, but with healing and respawns, a 2 stage match, using a device you must plant on a vault to extract the cashbox. with the defenders capturing it to stop the cutting, if they defend for long enough they win, but when it pops open the timer extends and 2 or 3 cashouts spawn on the map, the attackers must grab it and get it to a cashout, and then they are the defenders stopping the other team from stopping the cashout.

[somber hound]

[crystal umbra]

✨FREE IDEA✨Day 18

"Hey bro, do you wanna join our company?"

Encourage us to play and make friends. I'm talking about make The Finals about team play (Way too much solo culture in ranked)

They need to make a "squad" system next season.
For obvious reasons I believe this idea will lead to a exponential engagement effect, let me explain:

"Squads" or "Companies" should be able to select or vote for sponsors:
-Vaiiya
-Volpe
-Engimo
-Ospuze
Etc.

During the season we should be able to grind for "fame" so we can get company drip (cosmetics) for completing these "company contracts".
(Gives me reason to hop back on the game, me and my friends are working towards a goal now. +++ Add Bonus Points for playing with company mates)

This may take the place of circuits but I think my ideas fits the theme of the game-show AND this gives people a reason to play with friends and implore their friends to hop on The Finals with them.

Create specialized cosmetics for these sponsors. Once your company selects one they are locked in for specialized one-time cosmetics.

This creates urgency AND rarity since -for example- the season 4 OSPUZE set will never show up again. (Same for Engimo, Vaiiya, etc.)
Remember, ONLY AVAILABLE FOR ONE SEASON

Top companies (companies with the most "fame" or money cashed out) are showed on the World Tour leaderboard.
There they should be able to display or link their Twitch and other socials.

✨((MAKE YOUR CONTESTANTS STARS))✨
Appeal to human nature and give us something to talk about amongst ourselves. Give us something to brag about.
"Oh shxt, that's Ottr from 'x' Company".

In real life athletes have sponsor drip, well in The Finals - The world's greatest game-show - it's no different.

We get to flex our specialized drop from our favorite sponsors (opportunity to expand the lore)
And the top, most loyal finalists get shouted out.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[quick coyote]

• you didn’t nerf LH1 enough

• revert m60 to S2 when it finally became fun to use

• nerf rpg damage and charge and slams potential immediate damage upon activation.

• a Lewis gun nerf was needed, but the s3 nerf was way too harsh.

• medium blades need a better lunge range.

• This game is not made for TA, and it is a horrible ranked experience.

• xp-45 has way too much range and zero recoil to be doing that much damage

[teal minnow]

CANCEL THE FUCKING MATCH IF 2 PLAYERS LEFT MID MATCH ,IDC THAT IT ALREADY STARTED AND IT TOOK TIME TO THE PLAYERS CANCEL THAT SHIT

[modern ether]

fix your anti cheat, the amount of cheaters in this game is insane, theres a guy that climbed to ruby in ranked with cheats and hes still not banned

[smoky marsh]

Id like to see a revolver buff. I don’t really see it that often in cash out, plus it feels a bit awkward to use.

[rancid igloo]

Just lost 1.5k RP having to rejoin a match due to the infinite loading glitch, is there a way to fix it on my end? Or is it just something I have to look forward to during side swapping? With a 30 minute suspension might I add.

[rose nacelle]

Doesn't help that it feels that sometimes Revolver just doesn't hitreg, which is weird and can cost you a confrontation if the bullet you fired just doesn't exist.

[somber hound]

skill issue

[opal ocean]

Keep up the great work Embark. I especially love ranked TA and the gigachad behaviour of not mentioning it in any patch notes. I'm glad the entire community has now embraced the greatest experience in gaming history.

[rough herald]

give cl40 more damage on direct pls
it total damage per mag is abysmal

(AND Not splash btw i don't want my belove cl40 to be a noob gun)

[stray matrix]

totally agree
direct is too low right now

[somber hound]

satire

[opal ocean]

No it isn't. Stop projecting what I think.

[dull elm]

A gadget that speed sup steals would be pretty cool. It would probably be very very strong, but that's fine imo
It'll kinda be a gadget like the defib (must pick)

Obviously with a super high cool down

[cunning niche]

Get rid of all recon gadget so cheater can be spotted easely

[stray wing]

A gadget to increase lights normal movementspeed temporarily would also be fun

Strong probably too

[tawny wharf]

Yeah, I want my CL-40 back. I spent a lot of time developing a skillset for it only for the already mediocre weapon to be nerfed into the ground. A damage nerf, Embark? Never would have expected that. Why reduce the viability of unique playstyles? That just makes the games less interesting 😞😮‍💨

[smoky gust]

Super high cooldown wont really matter since you only need it every 2 minutes

It would also screw people over, since they likely dont know that they only have less than the usual time to get there to defend

And its probably incredibly hard to hit the fine line between busted and useless

Id rather not mess with that tbh

[twin heart]

Please let 1887 have an option for no stock on more than just Dough Wrangler skin, having it only be exclusive to that one skin is kind of a bummer

[night cypress]

FSR 3.1,

[rough herald]

give me a slider in the setting for the opaque way point already
(imm so surpise i saw the guy throw the way point and my crosshair)

[tribal plaza]

Hell yeah based opinion

[hollow breach]

Bring (old) game modes by adding a weekly rotation so every week we have a new game mode to play. It prevents long queues and splitting the player base into different games. We can have a lot of game modes such as team death match, guns roulette, etc. that normally wouldn't sustain/die if it was a permanent game mode! It can also add new types of quests and such.

[somber hound]

bring back Cashout Ranked OR balance TA Ranked.. pls!!!

[torpid tusk]

Embark: "Let's remove our unique game mode from competitive and add this FRESH, ABSOLUTELY ORIGINAL game mode named TERMINAL ATTACK ! "

The player count: https://imgur.com/a/ro0GR8H

[quick coyote]

take out terminal attack ranked. No one fucking likes it

[smoky basin]

finally after years and the battle royale era you have created an innovative and original pvp game but with terminal attack you destroyed everything
CHANGE RANKED TA IS NOT THE FINALS

if you want to keep TA put it in Word tour

[frosty perch]

please correct the right side UV map of the AKM 😥

[rough herald]

crosshair customizability
130 fov

[stray matrix]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1dv3jpu/suggestion_new_gametype_last_coin_battle_royal/
oh here is my 5 cents 🙂

[olive atlas]

8K players rn, lowest its been in months, might be a sign to stop doing what yall are doing (fuck TA)

[honest shore]

Why cant I post photos into the channel? Just had a Round of Terminal Our Team were 2xPlat, 2xSilver, 1xGold Vs 3xPlat, 2xRuby. Nearly a 100K MMR apart. How is this more "Competetive"?

[oak mural]

Luck Based Matchmaking ™️

[acoustic gust]

Change the name of the game to: THE LIGHT
before you let it die you incompetent losers

[stray matrix]

What's wrong with TA?
NOW: 20 secs of running close to wall and spending of abilities at start. You did these 20 secs for strategy talking or what? All what need to game is already talked about.
**SHOULD: **Players should be frozen at 5 seconds, without blocked areas and else. Probably so that the player wouldn't be bored being frozen for 5 seconds add cool effects and screen blinking and also allow expressions and emotes. (You are currently implementing a block for spam after 3 emotes, but it should be done after 4, because there are 4 of them in the wheel)

**NOW: **For win is need best of 7. It is too much and bored atleast at low rank players. Low rank players are a big part of players in game
**SHOULD: **For win is need best of 5

Regards

[next tundra]

Why not, it is a mix between TA and classic mode.

[primal torrent]

lol

[worn horizon]

grenade did 150 damage?

[mild grail]

Wizard outfit!!!!!!!

[zealous pulsar]

that's what been killing me lately then!

[tribal bear]

Somebody died to snipers 🤭

[lavish shard]

Bank it 40k to 60k please game is too fast

[stuck rock]

lewis gun buff when?

[cunning warren]

Cheaters every game on ranked TA

[rough herald]

i think it do 10 more damage when the nade model itself hit you like how porb do 50 damage when thrown and hit someone

[next tundra]

I am wondering where is the fun when you cheat in a game? Find the flaws (in the code)?

[modest dew]

nerf throwing knives in the dirt, they were mid before, now they are the most annoying weapon to fight in the whole game right now.
its literally the damage of a shotgun without having to have a really long reload animation, its insane.
i cant tell if you two are memeing or not

[acoustic gust]

Nerf throwing knifes!

[lavish shard]

Nerf TK NERF TK NERF TK NERF TK

[rough herald]

give cl40 more damage on direct hit (and not the splash damage)
damage per mag is abysmal

@inland maple we talking first bullet reload? because i want that

[final shore]

What's the point of the Terminal Attack gamemode? This is the opposite of fun

[daring ravine]

@civic igloo they always have, its just the radius for 150 is literally standing on top of it , which unfortunately happened here, I have multiple clips from s1 and now from this

[inland maple]

Buff model a little bit. Give it like faster reload time.

@rough herald something like that

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[hazy shore]

i miss light being skill expression, not just spam throwing knives and hope for the best

[soft flame]

its literally the best weapon on medium already why would you buff it

[teal bear]

Anyone down to buy ottrs stupid patreon thing and then dispute the charge? I think that ends up costing him money. @tribal plaza
Edit sorry didn't notice I was in game feedback tab.

[tribal plaza]

That's completely unrelated to embark bruh go post this garbage idea on his discord, and no I don't believe that works with subscriptions.

[rough herald]

when is next season again? can't wait for embark to do nothing about ta again

[modest dew]

olie 80+ days, i wouldnt hold your breath

[lime lichen]

buff dual blades

[inland maple]

Its not! Akm is best

[next tundra]

Is the platform moving faster when there are more and more players on it ? ("Arm wrestling mode")

[lavish shard]

How kill the best game
Ranked
Remove cashout 🤦
Quikplay
Sbmm
Crossplay kbm/controler
Meta full light
How make the finals great again split balancing qp/ranked
And bring back ranked cashout

[small thorn]

the server lag and frame drops is really getting out of hand. i never had problems like this season 1 or 2 and i've also tried clearing up memory on my pc, lowering certain graphic settings, setting things to performance, etc. doesn't change a thing.

[glacial knot]

Agree if they will not add cash out ranked next season i will leave the game forever. I left COD and all similar games and decided to play the finals because its a different game style

[broken shore]

Optimize your game. Why kick players for trying to join a round just because you didnt optimize your game?

[pseudo breach]

Lol, are all the weeklies tracking this week?

[dry wraith]

The quality of the matches has fallen a long way. It's more noticeable in casual game modes, like Cash Out or PowerShift

[quick coyote]

Yeah, this ain't apex to take 6 season to fix something lol

[oak mural]

Fuck throwing knifes

give them good DPS or good dmg per hit not both

they are actually just straight up a Automatic Revolver without a Magazine with only range as a downside

[last swift]

•Add a report option for gamethrowing.
•Let light dash break through glass
•Change up APS turret, projectile + grenade launcher spam is crazy rn. Lower refresh times for a new one or higher durability.
•Nerf guardian turret - lock on speed, damage, or accuracy idc which one but it shouldn’t lock onto me and melt immediately when I enter a space. They also have stupid durability.
•For the love of god add ranged bullet drop to Snipers like every other shooter game
•Heavy’s have the spear now, the sledgehammer doesn’t need unrealistic range, and change the size of the spear to actually match its attack diameter.
•Light Machine guns have too much accuracy at range, I shouldn’t be melted 200 meters away
•Smoke grenade should have a larger radius, one of the only counters for flamethrower fire damage rn
•This one may be an unpopular opinion but glitch grenades should completely break enemy devices like the guardian turret or mines, love the new glitch mine but its range is also a bit much.
•Stop adding new players onto the losing power shift team if they are down over 30k. Literally can’t even make it to the platform sometimes and don’t see anybody on the way before they win, it’s just a waste of time.
• The winch claw + two spear hits + rocket launcher combo is overpowered. There is literally nothing a medium can do, after the stun I can’t even place a jump pad before the rocket gets to me and I’m dead.

[lavish shard]

Nerf light nerf light nerf light

[zealous pulsar]

what does P mean

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov zoom in and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.
• Pyro grenades "stick" to the shield and burn the player forever, making it also impossible to see

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

• Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam

[rough herald]

crosshair customizability

[silent fog]

How much longer is Charge n Slam going to go untouched?? Nerf it

[daring drift]

Humans at Embark, first of all remove Terminal Attack from Ranked, then Nerf light and nevery again put the Sniper and Pistol Quest in, as getting Snipe every round by an F Light is not Fun.
You Humans made an great seasons but ruined by making the worst F decisions

[lime lichen]

its not going too because its on heavy, if it was on med they would have gutted it already

[stray wing]

I currently have sometimes an issue, when the gateways suddenly don’t work, dieing doesn’t help

[daring fossil]

as far as im aware, the grenade has always done 150 damage if you're standing directly on it. Edit: just tested in range and yes, it does 150 damage when directly beside the light dummy while the other one took 149 damage

[soft valley]

If theyre humans, what are you : o

[void blade]

I wish theyd do marketing. The five whole people who saw the trailer at summer gamefest absolutely didn’t download the game. This game could be the biggest one out there rn but they just cant run a youtube ad or youtuber sponsorship like a normal company.

[junior holly]

pico ? just a good guess and L for large

[proven ibex]

" WELCOME TO THE TERMINAL ILLNESS "

[inland cove]

yes pls delete snipers
there is no counter to sniper other than also playing sniper

YusT dOnT PeAk! ...... ya i might just stay in spawn afk to not get hit by snipers

[quick coyote]

French, P = Light M = Medium L = Heavy

[burnt notch]

wtf did ottr do to you

[hollow lake]

Give light faster healing time.

[tribal bear]

Snipers are hella annoying tho
And staying in spawn doesn’t help when they are camping the spawn 💀
Hard to not peak either when the map is wide open
Might as well make a tunnel

[strange eagle]

Please, delete Riccudo's account. He doesn't love me

UPD: CANCEL

[last swift]

At the very least add ranged bullet drop

[pseudo breach]

Lol, meant more like is everything working for a change because the past couple of weeks there was always one contract all messed up. But good to know

[pale gorge]

bring back mnk for console players

[rapid stream]

I reconnected to a match and halfway through it kicked me out and gave me a 2 hour ban WHAT THE FUCK EMBARK

[lavish shard]

Do something for light in quikplay everybody play light dont OP for me just TK 🤮 but quikplay need diversity

[daring fossil]

and most of them regret it in my games lol

[small thorn]

as someone who primarily plays Light, I agree. it's getting to the point where I don't even play Light much at all anymore cause I would rather try and balance out our composition rather than be selfish and play what I want and screw what the team needs

[zealous pulsar]

bro thinks these are the Salem trials lmao

[silent fog]

How are you this weird lmao. Just don't buy it if you don't want it tf?

[hazy shore]

with stun gun shutting down specializations, its range should go back to pre buff levels

[terse slate]

Taking a break now from finals. Amount of cheaters has risen to higher levels again..

[daring fossil]

I've had like 6-7 report confirmations in game this season, from like maybe 10 people I've reported, and 2 blatant cheaters banned from video reports. I'd actually argue that there are way less cheaters this season than there's ever been, im on NA though, I know Asia region has always been worse

[rigid shale]

ospuze expo sign on vegas at night is blinding and difficult to play around.

[teal minnow]

Nerf the sniper to the ground

[wide temple]

I encountered a bug in powershift where i respawned very close to a wall and then the "WASD" keys won t work. some of them were inverted

[quick coyote]

i have this right now. https://imgur.com/a/bTa2ykx

[modest willow]

https://tenor.com/view/aplausos-clapped-leonardo-dicaprio-clap-slow-clap-gif-1724742745274938226

[acoustic storm]

But it looks pretty dope, ngl
Hats off for the looks

[shy parcel]

this is a cool idea

[mighty portal]

i had to reconnect to a match during second round and after i reconnect i play the rest of the round and then after the round it puts me back in lobby qand gives me a matchmaking penalty please someone explain because this keeps happening to me and i have a 2 hour matchamking suspension

[thorn kelp]

Go to #medium-meetup and look at @lapis surge video about him

[torpid sky]

Not my video, it's @lapis surge's

[low plaza]

Remove it. A sniper shouldnt be in a fast paced game

[orchid abyss]

**I hope my feedback gets considered, it took me a 3 days to write and post comment any thoughts if you agree or not: **

** Light Class Is Ruining The Fun For Everyone But Themselves, It Needs A Rework ASAP. ** https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1durl06/light_class_is_ruining_the_fun_for_everyone_but/

[hidden geyser]

Where can I open a ticket about a hacker in the game?

[rapid stream]

think you just need to turn down your settings

[daring fossil]

I mean, if a light doesn't hit you with 2-3 direct hits in a row, you have way more than enough time to kill them, and rarely does anyone hit all their shots with knives (unless you stand still which is a skill issue on your part in that case). I'm pretty decent with knives and I don't hit all my shots. You have to lead with them and they have a slow throw speed, I honestly don't understand all the complaints, I have no issues fighting TK lights as a light or a medium (I don't play heavy). Half the time you get deleted before you can land a second hit.

@hidden geyser #video-player-reports if you have video, or report them in game through the recents tab in social.

[zealous pulsar]

I have auto run on, but that means that the spectator camera goes slow as if I wasn't sprinting, I wish that talk would sprint automatically

[scarlet pebble]

Riot shield needs buff.

[hazy shore]

if i can pick them up and go 30 and 5 without any practice or thinking, its not ok. it doesnt need leading at all and you have barely any movement inaccuracy. stop trying to say its skill. it isnt. "most balanced now then they have ever been". lmao ur a clown

[junior igloo]

basically ur saying take the worst, most hated, most annoying weapon in the game that takes no skill and make it viable by buffing it in every conceivable way to the point where its a permanent mesh shield with a glitch trap attached

[dawn sigil]

Hello, how do i fix the "Login failed due to service interruption" error?

[solid heath]

Please give some reward or something for being top leaderboards in WT, ive grinded it and im top 100 rn we should get something at least no?

[lean notch]

Remove sniper from terminal attack.
Some of the open maps make it impossible to go against a sniper when they can just chunk off half the team's health before they even get within eye sight of the objective, not even taking into account the spawn killing

[daring fossil]

if you are airborn or moving/sliding they are really inaccurate and you can't sprint between throws and your move speed is slower than walking if you are strafing while throwing, and you do have to lead them and account for distance (aiming higher) unless you are practically in their face, and going 30-5 doesn't mean anything. Most of the time if a light is getting that kind of KD he's being absolutely useless as a team mate. literally every other gun light has kills as fast or faster (assuming you hit every knife throw). The only reason why they feel bad to die from is because the lack of feedback when you're being attacked/hit by them. They are the most balanced now than they ever have been. The only clown here is the guy crying about throwing knives after they finally got a much needed buff.

[warm ivy]

Pleeeeeeeeeeease all I want is an fcar animation set

[lofty tartan]

you get the combat clap and you will be happy!

[hazy shore]

bless your heart, boy. whose lists? and most of that sounds like a plain skill issue with one of the easiest weapons in the game to use. again, bless your heart, boy

[pseudo breach]

Glad to see the UE5 crash is still intact

[tranquil kernel]

its just me or throwing knives are too powerful

[deep summit]

Fix the RS System, played a game where my team's total RS is 116k, enemy team 156k RS, we lose 4-7 and I lost 900 RS for that. 116k vs 156k how is that a fair match up? And at the end of the match apparently my team was 166k RS despite 2 unranked and the rest gold. Devs sharing braincells it seems

[quick coyote]

fix the fucking loading screen bug

[echo minnow]

the game suddenly crashed, when I opened it again i got "build request failed", man🤦‍♂️

[daring fossil]

throwing knives are literally D tier or lower in most peoples tier list, seriously. Go look up TTKs. Curious how many hours you have in the game. I rarely ever die multiple times by the same dude with throwing knives, and I never complain about it. There are far more annoying weapons in the game. I run throwing knives for fun sometimes, and most of the time I end up switching weapons mid game if I start taking it seriously and want to win.

[slender oasis]

The FCAR should maybe have the recoil slightly adjusted, and the clip should deffo go back to 20 and slight rebuff of damage (like a few dmg per bullet). I can get laced by this thing long range if the person is able to pull down with all their sensitivity for the breif window and not all of us run quite high enough sensitivity to bring that aim down for more headshots (which is what matters when equal skills).

[earnest dome]

NerfSniper

[smoky gust]

no airborn or sliding isn't really holding them back
you pretty much don't need to lead to hit your shots
nobody is aiming higher because they all fight in a range where that's not a factor
doesn't matter if they suck as a teammate, it still sucks for whoever was on the receiving end of that 30:5 kd

its true that ttk is barely different, but they still have infinite ammo
with most other weapons, they still need to reload, leaving them open for a punish if they didn't aim well enough
a lot of their weapons also force you to keep the crosshair on them, which is harder to do than tk's timing

and all of that, while they dont need to aim down sight
most other weapons needs to ads to do any substantial damage beyond hand-shaking range
this slows you down and leaves you easy to hit
tk's do not share this risk

feedback is not an issue, we can tell when a light is running at us
its not worse than actual hitscan bullets, which dont give us any issues

same ttk, easier to hit your shots, less risk if you mess up
its a straight upgrade in a majority of situations and way too strong

i really hope it gets a nerf, its making it hard to enjoy the game

[quick coyote]

i love this game to death. it singlehandedly breathed life into the fps genre, showing that all the stale releases were a product of corporate safety rather than exhausted resources.

turning the game into a pseudo-counterstrike which lacks the aspects that keep people playing that gameform has to be the most heartbreaking thing thats happened to gaming in the past 3 years. everything else about season 3 is beautiful, from kyoto to the new specializations/gadgets. theres so much untapped potential for the cashout game mode already present in the game, yet i cant bring myself to open and play a casual experience.

with the console release of valorant around the corner, which isnt my personal cup of tea, the finals is at an immense threat of death considering ~70% of its playerbase is console-wide. unfortunately, this season cant be used to gain momentum, and now embark will be tasked with dropping a patch of unreal levels in season 4 to hold any weight against an already established game with huge followings.

i can only hope embark will make the finals a competitor to the mainstay fps genre through originality rather than raging against the machine with already explored mechanics and game modes.

my hopes are with this community, but my support, unfortunately, is currently not.

[rugged temple]

The arguably highest skill medium weapon which is a weaker option than most of his other weapons you mean?

[solar garnet]

do you reckon they could add a way to invite people to parties in games and join parties during games

[teal minnow]

Remove sniper from TA ,it takes no skill and unfair against enemies

[jade ingot]

Remove TA from game, it is boring

[acoustic storm]

Please add some downtime to the Throwing Knives. Its just hillarious

[wise jolt]

We need a fix for the loading screen bug fast. my friend just had it and reconnected after 5 minutes. the scoreboard didnt show his name. he was playing with us and won us the game. then last round he tried loading in and got a matchmaking suspension

[daring fossil]

I disagree, they are way too situational, and you have to make yourself vulnerable to use them effectively and you have to practically stand still to throw them, and if you're in effective range with them you're fucked if you miss a single shot, and if not the other person deserves to die. It doesn't matter if there's no reload, its like an entire second between throws. Nobody is running TK in world tour, which isn't even ranked and has no stakes. needing to keep your crosshair on a person vs timing your aim with every throw sounds like a downside to throwing knives to me. Like I said, I have no problem dealing with lights with TK, the only time they are even remotely a problem is if im shooting someone else and I don't hear them run up behind me.

[somber hound]

Pls fix your Anticheat!!!!!!!!!

[hybrid dock]

Another competitive game ruined by invisible light snipers

[sonic spoke]

Yes. Throwing knives were actually good originally. Didn't need the insane buff. They need magazine size equivalent or something. Like knives in your belt.

[pseudo latch]

Day 107 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored four bullets every second, 50 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

In other news

[topaz swallow]

dear embark:
i have to play on 360p (dlss ultra) for stable framerates, please fix

[smoky gust]

its only limiting factor is range
most fights happen in close range, and this is even less of a downside since light can force close range incredibly easily
so no, not situational
you dont make yourself vulnerable either, theyre still very easy to hit when moving
and as explained, you actually have less risk, since you dont need to ads
youre not done for if you miss a single shot, if anything this weapon is more forgiving in close range because of its infinite ammo
unless you mean being killed by someone else before you get to kill them, which this weapon also just happens to make less likely because you can dodge more easily
the no reload does matter
tk's and guns have the same dps, that is with tk's throwing delay accounted for
if you take the dps with reloads, tk's beats them all because they dont need to reload
pretty much all lights i see are running tk's
with full auto you need to aim the whole time and make sure your crosshair is on them for an extended period of time, as oppose to tk's which you need to hit 2-3 times, they are easier
fighting fire with fire just leads to net 0
but trying to play anything else doesn't work or feels incredibly bad

i don't know what else to tell you, this is not fun

[blazing mauve]

Hi there is a bug with a contract about the damage in the arena
i have to do 60k structure damage by using objects from the arena and it wont work

[storm siren]

i seriously dont get why they would make a 3 map rotation for every few weeks, are the devs clueless?

We dont want to be stuck playing the same 3 maps for weeks at a time just give us all the maps a enourmously bad desicion im amazed at how bad this season is,

Oh ya cool new map sure.

RIP Finals

[cold forum]

Skill issue

[glacial condor]

Nerf the flamethrower

[daring fossil]

lights can force close range if using dash, and IMO dash is probably the worst special to use with TK, you are vulnerable because your movement speed is half that of walking speed while throwing and you have to be close range. I don't see how needing to ADS with weapons is more risk, I can hipfire kill lights within throwing knife range with an AKM. you are done if you miss a single knife, unless the person you are fighting can't aim worth a shit, and in that case they deserve to die. You can't dodge more easily unless you have dash, again movement speed is half that of walking while throwing, if someone can't hit you while you're going back and forth within a foot vs full on sprint with hipfire M11 or MP5, thats a skill issue, I also usually have no trouble tracking through dashes. Again I disagree on pretty much everything. Throwing knives are not the thing that kills my fun, they aren't even top 3. I donno what to tell you, I don't mean to sound rude and I don't wanna be that guy and say skill issue butttt....looks like someone already beat me to it.

@acoustic storm and your movement speed is literally that of someone ADSing while throwing knives. risk and vulnerability are 2 different things.

@acoustic storm he said you are at higher risk by ADSing, I said I don't see how because you can hipfire lights in throwing knife range. I never said anything about ADSing making you more or less vulnerable.

[sharp summit]

they gotta fix this 3v4 ranked terminal attack bs. everyone leaves for no reason

[teal minnow]

I hope you know that that 15k* players is all time or you could say atm. There are far more players than 15k but nobody plays at the same time and same amount.

[acoustic storm]

ADSing doesn't make you vulnerable?
Meanwhile ADS: Reduced(Narrowed) FOV and Movement Speed. No ability to sprint, etc.

I am not an expert. But to me that sounds like making yourself vulnerable.

@daring fossil
Yes, risk and vulnerablity are two different things. Yet you make yourself vulnerable by taking away mobility (in a game with high mobility that is) and you are also taking away some of your field of view due to the narrowed FOV.
That is not risk. It is risky since you make yourself "vulnerable" by doing so.

But the TK don't have that since they are designed for close range spam. Which is their core concept and completely fine in that regard.
Yet the lack of any downtime makes them really frustrating to play against.

Sorry, misread that point there.

[somber hound]

fix anti cheat pls

[slate mauve]

Factor in Scoreboard before filling in a quick-play match...

[civic orchid]

my compliments 3 weeks into the season and you still haven't fixed a bug created by you, I still end up stuck in the loading screen while I hear the game starting and I have to restart, this also happens in rank. how disgusting 3 weeks and still not having fixed a bug like that. but please focus on the shop updates, they are the ones that count...

[manic oak]

now there is a very very annoying thing happening in almost 90% of cashout games. where its 2 teams working agianst 1. and its just impossible to deal with. both teams clearly hold points together. and its just horrible gameplay trying to get any steals or cashouts. its just braindead gameplay. because one team desides to compleetly fkk over one team.

[hybrid dock]

If there is a fourth season I won’t be blowing any more of my money on this redundant live service fps. The gaming industry is completely dead and my teammates have no interest in playing objective based game modes. The competitive mode is a joke to play and the players all chose the same class : invisible light sniper. I’m a double diamond player returning for season three and I’ve been nothing but disappointed in the range of combat I’ve seen since the beginning of this season

[strong sparrow]

Day 17 of asking to revert TA ranked (its a casual gamemode that is NOT suited for competition) and bring back cashout ranked (at least for S4 and onward)

[magic stratus]

Please include an in-game leaderboard stat, and post game stat to showcase total structure damage

[jade ingot]

If cash out is still undetermined by season 4 for ranked viability, please make bank it ranked 🙏

[frosty ingot]

Nerf light to the nucleus underneath the dirt. Buff riot shield. Buff cl40. Stop adding weapons for lights until other classes have equal numbers. Also add ability to sort games by classes tired of entire light lobbies.

@lavish shard yes TK spam needs to go and riot shield is way to useless and slow. CL40 needs a bigger radius. I’m tired of one shot lights surviving direct impact

[patent wind]

heavy players when light is finally viable

[lavish shard]

Light just need nerf TK spam
And buff melee and explosive weapon no thx

[acoustic storm]

But Seriously, fuck balance. Get the game in a "working" state.
There are so many bugs which have been posted multiple times over a few season at this point. E.g. Players unable to shoot or use gadgets.
Yes, the devs are hard at work, but getting screwed over by the same bugs over and over again just sucks.
Just let us know which bugs you are currently working on. Currently it feels like the bugs are just being ignored.

[cold forum]

I spent 30 minutes in queue and still didn’t get a match. Unable to accept invites too

[pseudo latch]

We’re a little miffed about our guns getting nerfed into said dirt, you’ll have to forgive us. Some of us actually wanted a viable machine gun this season.

[deep summit]

Add Skill Based Match Making, I keep getting boosted players in my team which then makes me lose so much RS because they play like a bronze negative kd, or at least change the RS System

[golden wing]

@pearl kiln I Genuinely apologize for the ping but since you are our voice to Embark, heres what I feel like the community wants changed with TA.

TA Is a great game mode don't get me wrong, when it's played competively and correctly it's awesome. BUT there one BIG problem with TA... If all the players aren't around the same skill level it becomes worse than Ranked Cashout and 3rd partying.

So what I propose is a 5v5 cashout. It keeps the game's Iconic Cashout game mode and removes 3rd partying. Now heres where things change...
It'd be the same concept as TA except maybe (this is a suggestion if token respawn is not favored) there's no respawn tokens and only player respawns. Player's Statues can be retrieved and respawned, but dead players can NOT revive themselves. NOTE: Medium classes CAN use heal beam and defibrillator, BUT the 100hp max recovery is still implemented IF you are not healed with healing beam. If you are healed with healing beam you can be healed to 75% HP. (varies on class of the player)

Alternative 2, no healing but players can regen up to 50% but mediums cannot use heal beam and can obly use defibrillator or use revive tokens to respawn into the game.

Also, Red team would be given a set ammount of time to get to cashbox before Blue team.

I strongly hope this can be tried and tested in season 4 and I hope it will be able to solve Embark and us players problems.

Closing Note: If you like my idea please please please react with a thumbs up/down and if you have any suggestions on how to fix or make my idea better. - Your biggest fan and supporter, mikEy and the community

[young hamlet]

Give us more team names

[bleak geode]

Please give the 93R( the burst pistol) new skins that are cool/unique. I like the weapon.

[reef jasper]

yall lost me with ranked TA

[gritty owl]

regardless whether or not 5v5 cashout ranked works, this would make running healing beam on medium absolultely mandatory, you'd also probably want 3+ mediums in the team. which is... not great to say the least.

[smoky gust]

maybe you could tone down how big charge 'n' slams aoe is when slamming from very little hight
its currently pretty easy to charge into someone, turn around and then slam them to death with a massive radius

thats probably where a lot of the issues with it come from

[dull tiger]

It would need to be a % of health that each class can regenerate rn heavy kinda sucks because you can only regenerate 100 hp but light can regenerate 2/3 of its health and it isn’t as big of problem with medium I think 75 hp with light 125 for medium just enough to just survive a body-shot snipe finally give heavy 150 or 175 hp

[feral bloom]

5 v 5 cashout does sound really good as time goes money increases in the cash station itself if captured the money count resets and same shit most points when timer ends is the winner

[languid tapir]

How does the Ranked Score work. My team is a 5 stack with 2 silvers, 2 bronze, and 1 unranked. Why are we being matched with people in gold. our ranked score is 60k vs 101k

[burnt notch]

If any of the guys in ur party are silver 2 or silver 1 you’ll probably be matched with gold players. Sbmm will only apply to the highest-ranked person in the party.

[iron berry]

Make #👂┇game-feedback a forums channel

This will be nice because:

Easier to read

Gives the ability to talk about ideas and get a better of understanding of what the community wants

I don’t have to have my message covered by everyone writing paragraphs about how much they hate Terminal Attack

[warm pilot]

Hi. the audio is broken on the new update. my audio is fine with all other games/programs, but the finals audio is broken. I've tried restarting pc, game, steam, reinstalling drivers etc. nothing works

[pliant lion]

Wtf happened here?

Also unrelated to the screenshot, nerf the freaking throwing knives already. 90% of the matches I play have at least 3 lights with knives. A decently fast firing bottomless clip close range weapon is not fun to play against, especially not if it does absurd amounts of damage.

[rapid stream]

the rpg probably hit a mine

[azure tree]

im a Light Main but JESUS guys u need to get fucking RID of the SONARS. the game gets so fucking boring. its a reason why fucking wallhack is an UTIMATE ability in valorant. get fucking RID OF IT

[quartz dirge]

oh no! sonars doing their job? we cant let this happen!

[warped pendant]

Reconnected to WT game, my loadout was completely nuts, not anything I have ever taken. Also, I had 5 tokens in the first round. 😄
The game crashed while launching a match, if that gives anything.

[copper umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852544194996469820/1258523772093464586/image.png?ex=66885b19&is=66870999&hm=d277fff9642726706e43c6f9ad30fd0d07a8df36f199bc543ee50802b8ed6a9b&

This has probably been suggested a million times already, but these team colors are so close to each other as to be practically the same colour. I'd love an option to pick colors for teams 1-4 myself or at least something a little more distinct

[quick coyote]

Bow is a joke tbh. Sniper level damage with no reload and apparently no bunny hopping accuracy drop off at all.

[winter vapor]

I just joined a game that stated i was eliminated before i even joined in....

You guys seriously still havent fixed this?

I just wasted at least 2 minutes from the matchmaking, loading, etc just to be told that.

What a terrible experience for everyone.

[deep summit]

Solo queue is horrendous, keep getting boosted players who cannot hold 1 kd +, like how are you having fun playing like that, go play casual

[hollow breach]

remove headshot multiplier from throwing knives 👍

[tough merlin]

sniper level damage... of where? if you max charge it sure, but that's a lot slower then sniper (even if accounting for the bolt animation.) It literally does less headshot damage. tho your last point is true

@young hamlet OH GOD you just want to cause chaos don't you!

[remote drift]

Can we please be allowed to leave ranked cashout matches without penalty if our teammate disconnects? It seems like only one case of this was patched -- I still have games where my teammates game will crash and they don't come back and the game still won't let me leave without getting a penalty

[young hamlet]

Remove the cap on mines, C4 and breaches

[crimson shuttle]

Hit registration and explosives need to be fixed

[fallen mirage]

Still having problems whem entering a game (PS5) and being unable to shoot or ADS

[outer plover]

Ranked TA is just TDM
Ranked TA is just TDM
Ranked TA is just TDM
Ranked TA is just TDM
Ranked TA is just TDM
Ranked TA is just TDM

[opaque jolt]

When do we go back to Quick Cash for ranked?

[sterile forum]

s4 we all hope

[junior igloo]

u have managed to devise a "gadget/specialization" even worse than the rpg. specializations aint meant to be fully fledged weapons 💀
as a weapon that might be a good idea but how can u have that as a specialization bro

a 200 mag is not limited

when said mag can wipe two teams in 10 seconds then no it isnt

rpg has a minute cooldown and its still op

heavy already has 4 specs it would make it too confusing and it really doesnt make sense as a specialization it isnt unique

basically what ur saying is that to counteract it being op, u make it really hard and annoying to use with long cooldowns. then who will want to use it 😂

idk why ya'll are complaining so much over the nerfs im a heavy main and m60 is doing just fine for me this season i give it A tier. With charge and slam i get 5 kdr consistnetly

[pseudo latch]

How so?

Well if thats your issue, theres a reason why ive stacked on the limitations. Long CD, Heavy movement limitation, Sluggish ease of use with a lack of ADS accuracy or instant fire, and damage thats only on-par with other heavy options.

I cant have all those limiters on the weapon as a primary or else thered be too much holding it back, but trying to balance something like a minigun around being a primary would be awkward.

When you dump said mag in ten seconds and it takes a minute to get the whole mag back, yeah it is.

RPG doesnt take a full second to spool up, limit you to walking, or make a loud ass noise while spooling. If you pull out a minigun mid-combat, your opponents will know it, and have a chance to capitalize on it.

The risks are to counterbalance the benefits, because on the other side of the field, you have ten seconds of shredding power that decimates walls and annihilates anyone who gets in front of you. Theres no taking cover theres no facetanking the damage, the benefit is the insane utility of having ten seconds of "you dont get to stand in front of me". It would be extremely useful both for defending and breaching points.

As for the heavy complaints, we got both of our machine guns hit pretty bad. Lewis' new recoil pattern is almost mean-spirited, and M60 feels like youre throwing pebbles at people, even within its effective range. Melee got a chance to play and SA12 is now once again the gun to use because of Winch claw but it kinda feels like where we got access to one good build we lost access to two. @jagged cedar

[fluid spindle]

can we please get the sandstorm modifier on more maps than just vegas its by far the best imo

[iron berry]

Make #👂┇game-feedback a forums channel

This will be nice because:

Easier to read

Gives the ability to talk about ideas and get a better of understanding of what the community wants

I don’t have to have my message covered by everyone writing paragraphs about how much they hate Terminal Attack

[jagged cedar]

allegedly the two very viable heavy lmgs dont exist

[rain epoch]

embarkirino can we please have ranked cashout with TA.

Don't force me to play light for diamond Lewis gun

[crystal storm]

Heavy:

• RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 80
• Winch hook > remove from game, or rework it completely
• Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 750 to 700
• M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters
• Lewis gun > clean up the recoil pattern to be less aggressive horizontally
• Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you cant instantly kill M's, reduce cooldown

Medium:

• Recon senses > re-add to game - rework to be a single ping like recon nades but originating from the player. 3 charges with a pretty long recovery time
• Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.3s so it doesnt instantly shoot if you are in its FOV
• Defib > Remove invincibility time after getting ressed
• FCAR > revert to S1 for recoil/dmg but lower fire rate slightly
• FAMAS > Increase damage drop off range

Light:

• Dash > Add a short cooldown, close to around 1 second

• Throwing daggers > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance, boost initial velocity

• LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate slightly

• 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

• DB > lower damage to 145 damage

• V9S > Lower fire rate but increase damage (1 less shot to kill)

• Explosive mines > damage from multi mines exploding from different sources sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 80

• Cash-out should periodically give cash over time in a couple of instances, holding an objective for 90% and then getting it stolen should NOT go without reward (ie: 3k-5k-10k)

• Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently, you cant balance the game for TA and CO at the same time, one will always suffer

[quick coyote]

Stun gun still biggest crutch in the world, if you use it, you should immediately discount half your kills as meaningless

[winter vapor]

you took a meta class (heavy) that has 3x the health, 2x the fire power whos only disadvantage was movement.

Then you gave them the grapple hook, completely eliminating that factor.

Congratulations, its even more of a joke now than before.

[young hamlet]

Its 2.5x the health of the weakest character
Now you're just spreading misinformation

[junior igloo]

mesh is already 750 💀

[rose verge]

i think viccs on crack, medium is literally terrible to play it feels clunky and useless compared to light and heavy. i was previously medium main having a hard time last season it took till the end of the season to get 9 kills in a single game for that challenge, the medium sucks. Ive been heavy main this season and its so piss simple i get 10+ kills every single game even if im drunk its so overly tuned already theres no way in sweet jesus shitballs it needs another special weapon, sick of heavy mains trying to make sure they never get nerfed even though its the easiest class to blast mindlessly, as a now heavy main.. please nerf heavy its so stupidly strong it feels wrong to play anything else

[modern ether]

punish people harder for leaving competitive match's. Even if they join back, there are too many people comfortable with just rage quitting and rs should immediately drop if someone leaves, I shouldnt lose 900 rs becuase someone left for 3 rounds just to go 4-10

[torpid tusk]

uninstalled.

[feral mirage]

Remove Ranked TA, I haven't played in two weeks

[glacial knot]

RIP the finals OMG the amount of cheaters is not normal. Hwid ban the shit why you ban them only one week for the first time .

[stark notch]

They didn't get a grapple hook. That's light.

Also you forgot bigger hitbox for a disadvantage ;)

[zealous schooner]

we could have ranked badges specific to the modes: what i mean by this is World Tour can have its own full badge system as if it were ranked, and Terminal Attack can have its own badge system the way it is now, but give the rewards to those who grind the mode out, as more people are playing cashout than TA anyway and it’d allow World Tour/cashout players the chance to earn the same rewards for playing the same way ranked does

note: writing this made me think of Apex’s badges when they had Battle Royale and Arenas for SEPERATE ranked rewards, all World Tour needs is the rest of the badges to complete it

Lemme know what yall think!

[sonic spoke]

Have definitely won without eliminating all other team

[outer plover]

so have I but recently the other team or teamates have been rushing spawns and trying to kill off rip. I get the whole end the round and win but it defeats the purpose of a objective based game mode.

[hollow breach]

I actually think this is just a venting channel because idk how you’re able to keep up with the chat lol

[river hill]

#👂┇game-feedback is a channel meant for players to complain. It never really was a feedback channel.

[stuck rock]

lewis gun bufff please?

[young hamlet]

This is literally the most offensive, toxic, garbage channel I've ever seen
I'd be shocked if the devs even bothered to look here

[tulip wagon]

real, I wouldn't bother if i was a dev, most people here are moron complainers

[soft flame]

you have to be a special kind of dumb to bitch about people "complaining" in a feedback chat

[tribal rampart]

So very true! Please any CMs help us 🤍

[jade ridge]

Man, still hate TA, and normally when I start to feel bored, ranked carries me through. The 70 whatever days till the next season feels like an eternity. I’m trying to stay strong, but still stunned about ranked TA

[quick coyote]

nerf light buff lewis gun

[lime lichen]

buff dual blades and riot shield

[elder folio]

It's a copypasta that's why theres so many dumbass takes in it

[quaint trout]

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[radiant ether]

I think rpg and explosive weapons (cl 40, mgl 32) should do way less damage to players and more damage to buildings/objects

[crystal storm]

Heavy:

• RPG > damage reduced DMG from 140 to 80
• Winch hook > remove from game, or rework it completely
• Mesh shield > Reduced HP from 750 to 700
• M60 > increase damage drop off range by 10 meters
• Lewis gun > clean up the recoil pattern to be less aggressive horizontally
• Charge and slam > reduce damage by half so you cant instantly kill M's, reduce cooldown

Medium:

• Recon senses > re-add to game - rework to be a single ping like recon nades but originating from the player. 3 charges with a pretty long recovery time
• Turret > Add a attack delay of 0.3s so it doesnt instantly shoot if you are in its FOV
• Defib > Remove invincibility time after getting ressed
• FCAR > revert to S1 for recoil/dmg but lower fire rate slightly
• FAMAS > Increase damage drop off range

Light:

• Dash > Add a short cooldown, around 0.75 s

• Throwing daggers > Make the projectiles lose velocity and damage over distance, boost initial velocity

• LH1 > revert damage to 52 but lower fire rate slightly

• 93R > increase damage and damage drop off range

• DB > lower damage to 145 damage

• V9S > Lower fire rate but increase damage (1 less shot to kill)

• Explosive mines > damage from multi mines exploding from different sources do not stack. Damage reduced from 140 to 80

• Cash-out should periodically give cash over time in a couple of instances, holding an objective for 90% and then getting it stolen should NOT go without reward (ie: 3k-5k-10k)

• Remove Terminal attack from the game permanently, you cant balance the game for TA and CO at the same time, one will always suffer

[versed cloud]

TA is fucking horrible and unbalanced

[subtle copper]

fix the ping system. pinging 3km away shouldn't be possible

[quick coyote]

Kyoto is a garbage map. You shouldn't gain advantage from turning down your settings. There's too much clutter, too much lag, i have way more hit reg issues on it, its just a badly designed map for all game modes.

[warm ivy]

this is day 3 of asking for an fcar enimation set

[lapis arrow]

All right except for the FCAR and the evasive dash

[rough storm]

I love this matchmaking, i love snipers, and i definitely love this score system #forever gold gang

[sonic spoke]

Very much disagree

[eternal wigeon]

bro, you've said that atleast 16 times in less than a week, we get it 💀

[lean tree]

I hope someone from the devs reads this. This ranked system needs a big change. First of all its insane the amount of points i lose when i lost a match... Today i lost everything i gained in a fucking week. almost minus 4000 points in total, just because of this stupid matchmaking and scoring system!

The first match i played today my team was FULL SILVER and the enemy team was FULL GOLD AND ONE PLAT??? I carried the fucking team and then despite the loss i got -1400? Today i got twice -1400 for a fucking loss? But when we are 2-5 behind and we clutch 7-5 AND THE ONES WHO CARRIED was me and my teammate. You wanna know how much we got? +475??? THIS SHIT IS GETTING CRAZY. Im stuck in gold 2/1 because everytime i lose, doesn't matter even if i carried i get always -1000.

We played with a random guy he was unranked and when he got placed he was like silver 1. The next game we played we won, he got 4K / 4A / 8D and got +1080??? my stats were 14K/6A/7D and had like 1400 Objective score. I GOT +700! Please i am begging you to fix this fucking system.

FIX THE SNIPERS!!!
In ranked TA or let the health regenerate, reduce the amount of damage a sniper does OR give medium or heavy a sniper to counter act on it.

RANKED TA GAMEMODE!
I was hyped at first when i heard that you guys were adding this gamemode. But from my perspective right now, in this fashion/way.. I am not making it to diamond. (I was diamond last season, pretty much solo qued) but this season is straight hell if you are solo or duo queing...

[lavish shard]

Buff no aim weapon 🤦🤦 and buff tk sword and spear and hammer for playing chivalery warfare

[jagged cedar]

dagger backstab should either be given back multihit or have multihit if the first registered hit isnt a backstab. Dagger's one niche that it excelled in is stopping steals, however with the recent removal of right click multihit anyone with a brain has realized that they can just stack multiple people on objectives to completely negate the dagger. It amazes me that in the horrid state of s3 embark's first instinct is to nerf the shitty weapon that like 8 people use

[rapid ember]

If i block someone for toxic behavior, it would be GREAT if match making would stop matching me up with them.

[viral quiver]

Light shotgun is horrible in this Malae centered meta

[halcyon perch]

There's a bug present where thermal vision does not expose cloaked players. please fix.

[sharp peak]

SNIPERS IN RANKED IS HUGE BALANCE ISSUE

[iron acorn]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1251449230019530853
this is still in the game btw

[hasty oriole]

Please lower the RS for Platinum.. there are only 150 players with >50k.. So most of top 500 will get ruby and not plat???

[sage marten]

just had one game where my gun stopped being able to shoot 3 times

[quick coyote]

LH1 WAS PERFECTLY BALANCED IN SEASON 2 (HERES WHY)

Embark I REALLY want you guys to listen to this. As a light main and someone who was a passionate LH1 Player, I really want you guys to think about the 2 key points i want to make. One of the reasons I am addressing these points specifically is because of the LH1 dev note left, in the patch notes for 3.0.0. (Dev Note: Overall the effective damage of the LH1 should remain roughly the same, but it should now be easier to use, less nauseating, and more precise when standing still, as well as incentivizing headshots. The lower RPM should help make it feel distinct and make it easier to maintain targets in sights)

A •Not every gun needs to be easy to use

B •Some weapons need to be less accessible .ie harder to use.

The primary reason im emphasizing this is because the numbers on the LH1 right now are still incredibly overpowered when its as easy as it is to use. So Ill make a few comparisons to help give some insight. With the R.357 it has whopping 74 body shot damage and 148 head damage. The R.357 also has no recoil, so if you were to hold completely still and shoot all the bullets shot would be in the same spot. Now imagine you reduced the visual recoil. It would be a nightmare to deal with, even if recoil was added, not because the numbers are to high, but because its too easy to use.

Another example I can give is the V9S and it might be a better comparison than the R.357. The V9S is not a highly used gun, the reason I hear from most people is because "The visual recoil makes it to hard to use". Now at first that may sound like a bad thing ,but its because if it were any other way the gun would be overpowered. The V9S does 37 damage body shot and 55.5 to the head. The gun is incredibly strong but the visual recoil helps keep it balanced. Imagine if you gave it the LH1 treatment and reduced the visual recoil it would be a laser beam as it already has the 2nd lowest TTK out of any light weapon.

[vernal path]

Whats up with the servers is more unstable then ever before?

[soft flame]

no, it wasnt. it took the niche of the V9S, made it feel like shit, and was objectively better despite the V9S not being bad.

[young hamlet]

Also the option to throw back grenades

[ruby kindle]

CROSSHAIRS

I believe there needs to be some work done on the Crosshairs, not necessarily the visible Crosshair but more so the ADS. I have a lot of skins for many different guns that I use, and depending on what skin im using I sometimes end up finding myself in situations where being able to see the center of where my bullets are going when I ADS is difficult due to things like lighting, shading, and the colour of the walls in the building im in. This issue with barely being able to see the center of the Crosshair when ADS is prominent especially in the map SY$SHORIZON.

I asked around if I was able to use Crosshair X (A Crosshair overlay off of Steam) to assist with being able to see the center point of my screen when aiming but I was met with a lot of feedback leaning towards the idea that I might get banned because it could be mistaken for something else like a cheat software or something. If people can use apps like Crosshair X that are valid apps that can be used in other games I believe this issue can be fixed, unless there is a way to add some sort of indication like a different coloured light on the center of the ADS to make it easier to see where your bullets are going.

[crisp dragon]

Please no... For every nade that annoying nuked me, I've had my own nuke enemies. There are more than enough cues telling you that a nade is incoming or on you.. You don't need a spoon feeding arrow as well...

[outer plover]

There should be a rank requirement for tournament. No reason why little Tommy who just got this game should be able to unrank Que into a gold lobby at level 18.

[surreal yew]

TERMINAL ATTACK HP

I feel that rather than health regen cap being 100 it should be 50% of your characters HP, so Light-75 Medium-125 Heavy-175, i feel this would make each class be more true to what they should be, light being weak but agile with a high DPS output, medium would feel more well rounded, and heavy would actually feel a little like the tank they're supposed to be!

[zealous scarab]

game keeps freezing after matches. It's running very slow in interactions in menues after a game. Why.. solve it please. Thanks

[stuck forum]

I just crashed the server by accidentally stacking a gateway when a vault went through it. Yikes for everyone in the lobby 😬

[quick coyote]

That stament makes no sense. The V9S "nich" is like that to keep it from being a complete beam of a weapon because of its low recoil. Higher visual recoil disrupts to ability to perfectly track a target, same as the LH1. The LH1 having a higher visual recoil makes sense because it has a low recoil and higher damage with a good fire rate.

[limber hinge]

Take sonar out the game if it didn’t work on medium why the fuck would it work on light?

[quick owl]

can I PLEASE get a "copy character/loadout" so I can mess around with loadouts without breaking my normal build

[modest raptor]

where do we report

[young hamlet]

It works on light because stealth, dart and sonar allows for a recon based build

Medium only really had sonar

[jade ingot]

in game

[bleak delta]

what a nice matchmaking

[mild gust]

Wtf is this bro they should get like -1 if they lose or something there’s no way

[nocturne yew]

They should add and option to switch the riot shield hand mid game, so you could walk diagonally on the other side too

[steel quest]

This is why I don’t play ranked TA lol

[sick notch]

Dumb request but can powershift cash be made to count toward the "deep pockets" achievement? It would be nice to be able to work on that achievement outside of quick cash and world tour.

[lunar iron]

They need to fix the formula for points gained or lost per match. It should take into account if a team is stacking vs. a bunch of solos. I assume thats what happening here. Low player count plus a team of Ruby-ranked friends teaming together. Game should be less punishing to the other team that is randomly thrown into these situations. Especially if Embark is going to continue to combine groups with solos. This situation is becoming the norm.

[limber hinge]

Bro you are smoking crack if you think sonar is balance if they are going to put sonar on light they might as well put it on medium

[junior igloo]

it was a bug that they wasn't intended in the first place.. ur like guys who complain about the removal of emote canceling 💀

[oblique spindle]

They over corrected from the wall hack debacle

[daring fossil]

any team with more than 2 braincells stacks on the cashout during a steal regardless of what weapons other teams are using

[glacial sierra]

join world tour.
win first round.
loading screen error second round.
wait to get kicked so i can rejoin, takes @#$% ages.
rejoin with less than a minute to go in the round, lose and get eliminated.

join another world tour tournament.
loading screen error first round.

i don't want to play Loading Screen Simulator 2024.

[wheat ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1052728363351023722/1258615174890393732/image.png?ex=6688b039&is=66875eb9&hm=99f249ff9c7f60c76593fecc30802aaf397c33881ec56d114254e13a8a937c18&
Love this mode

[wispy ivy]

can the platform path on monaco be tweaked slightly? i swear its constantly just out of range for climbing

[sonic spoke]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1234861791184683060

[polar shell]

PLS FIX DEFIB, IT BARELY WORKS NORMALLY AND ALMOST NEVER WHEN LATENCY IS HIGH plz make it less latency sensitive

[plush swift]

qol patches: fix auto sprint not working or preventing you from running fix rebinding certain keys and the ui not functioning anymore add an option of no upscaling/ anti aliasing allow players that didnt consent to leaving to be able to rejoin tournaments

[patent wind]

pov heavy is still op

[compact current]

until you guys fix the "stuck on loading screen bug" im done with this game dude.

[grim patrol]

did they quietly buff turret hp

[jagged cedar]

it was very much intentional as all melees received it and it was only removed from the right click of two weapons

@daring fossil I mean yeah thats just a thing

[quick coyote]

Here me put right make evrry melee have a 1/10000 chance to 1 shot

[pseudo latch]

So people say, but how much longer till RPG is the only thing weve got going for us? Or how long till we dont even have that lynchpinning us to relevancy.

[rugged fiber]

Nerf medium shotgun (Either that or buff the other shotguns so more than one shotgun can 1 shot)

[vivid saffron]

I have 300 hours in this game and it's the least enjoyable it's ever been. Ranked TA is ass. Weapon balance is at its worse state...and each update is 'Hey, check out the STOOOOOOORE. Also, the game freezes for half the player base between games or rounds. And we still can't figure out how to get you a full team of three people so that you can at least have a chance of against being deleted by a few unbalanced weapons. BUT THE STORE, IT'S GOT GOTH GIRLS AND ANIME :D'

[quartz dirge]

goth girls and anime skins are all i need to keep playing

[young hamlet]

Can we get the FBI to search his harddrive?

[grim patrol]

I have 500 hours and I agree

[boreal path]

sniper is too op on certain maps

[atomic sparrow]

Can we get something else to actually make us play TA instead of a weapon skin that looks like a bloody kidney stone?

[tawny oak]

fix heavies grappling through walls,

[random geyser]

Lost another game cause of me crashing
FUCK

[modern ether]

its crazy how broken the new ranked mode is. theres so many balance issues and items that just dont work in a s.n.d(search and destroy) mode. Just please nerf snipers in the mode. a team can legit go 3 sniper's and camp your spawn from 3 different angles (defense, attack doesn't matter which) all while doing half your health in a mode where you can only regen 100hp and have one life from 200m+ away on towers, and to top it off even more they have high mobility and stuff like invisibility that makes them even harder to counter. like legit the only way to counter it is if you go sniper yourself, cause any medium ar cant do anything from the range their at and heavy's cant do anything because they cant even get close. Kyoto is all this, times 100. its so bad

[quaint forge]

Guys please fix how much points you gain and loose in rank, this shit is so messed up, I literally did two matches and won for a combined total of a little bit over a thousand RS, and then I lose one match and then lose that fucking progress, like what kind of bullshit is that dude

[junior igloo]

read the third line

yep im dumb and wrong, not like the main dev of the game confirmed it or anything

the reality is embark didnt mean for the dagger to be op. its a skill weapon, like the rest of the light class weapons. if you master it then it can be viable even without multihits, and if u dont then thats a skill issue

[jagged cedar]

no actaully you're dumb and wrong

even if it was unintentional dagger played so much better with it. I understand it was unhealthy having 2/3rds of a team disappear if a dagger got a perfect lineup which is why I suggested having multihits occur until a backstab is regged. This removes the unhealthy nature of an instant half team wipe while still allowing dagger to be strong in it's niche

[vivid saffron]

Can we give the nobel peace prize for game design for people that gave us sword dash lights that two hit mediums in an instant, and giving heavys grapple and melees that nearly one hits. This season has been shit for since lauch, it's not even worth using a gun, and everyone hates TA and I feel like embark is one of those 13 week european vacations.

[rose rock]

oop

[ivory isle]

no hot wolf chick outfit???? Cmon embark lets give the people what they want!

[hollow wasp]

❓

[crisp heart]

I suggest adding a "newcomers" mode or something like that. where its ONLY low level players, like level 20 and below or something like that. its not fun for new players OR experienced players when they get put on teams with eachother

[swift laurel]

ranked has been made to be perfect for cheaters, while being made absolutely pointless for most legitimate players, core ranked gamemode being changed under the guise of being made more competitive is absolute copium, you can play an existing gamemode competitively which is what cashout was, nothing has been done to retain players but a bunch of things have been done to push players away, honestly feels like everything that made me interested in supporting the game and Embark is fading away quite rapidly, at this point i cant bring myself to start up the game, it feels like the real issues have been largely ignored while superficial ones are being created and addressed regularly, i think the company-player relations have been heavily (irreparably?) damaged over the last 2 seasons, that along with the insane amount of cheating has made the game feel like i should be paid to play it

its simply not fun anymore its quite draining actually, getting on the game and within 2 or 3 ranked games (which are already painful enough as i do not like TA i prefer cashout as it was since the beginning) coming up against cheaters that remove any progress i make, reporting them in game, making a video report, re queue, get cheaters again within 3 games, then closing the game

[mortal geyser]

We hear your feedback. We are now going to nerf the AKM.

[modern ether]

The cheaters arent even trying to hide it either, its so blatant. Even in high ranks like plat and diamond theres alot of cheaters. You also have people that will just rage quit after 2 rounds because theres little repercussion. To top it off these games that you lose with cheaters and leavers you can lose 1,000+ rs. Legit had a game where 3 of the enemy team members left. we won, and got 1,300 rs. Its a fucking joke

[silk cloud]

Some indication that Embark employees are actually monitoring the bug reports people are making in this discord would be great, because right now there are some reports with hundreds of confirmed cases that have not been acknowledged at all. Even a simple "We'll look into this" would let players know that you're actually paying attention and listening to feedback. If you don't get involved then it starts to seem like you created that reporting forum just to let people shout into the void rather than because you're actually intending to fix anything. It's especially frustrating when those reports have been there since the start of season 3 and this weeks update was particularly light on meaningful fixes - for example like the hundreds of players getting stuck at loading screen when getting into a game, and having to alt-f4 to reconnect (which gets you penalized on terminal attack, too)

Nothing more frustrating than a dev trying to sell you new skins while the game itself is full of bugs that are being ignored.

[inland cove]

pls change charge´n slam its way to much dmg i regularly get hit for 280 dmg as a heavy.

my suggestion would be half the dmg but shorten the cooldown and /or increase the duration to make it a more movement based cooldown

[regal hearth]

Get better networking or servers

• Too many times I've been killed behind a wall or while someone wasn't even facing me at all, its frustrating thinking I got away only to die through a wall

Remove the RPG

• This thing takes the least amount of skill while doing all of the damage in the world making fights easy for the character with literally the most health

[high yew]

please add random button to weapon animations

[tame crag]

It should ramp up to high damage, starting at like 30 going to a maximum of like 100

[obsidian shell]

It happened to me today and I swear I got 0 RS+
If I had lost, I would have fallen from ruby ​​to gold 😂

[quick coyote]

I really hope Embark realizes they need to put out something over the top within the next few weeks. I hope they have something massive up their sleeves. We need surprise map drops, weapon drops, something dude, on top of doing something about ranked and cashout. This is not gonna make it to S4 dude. I see the same 20 names constantly now.

[stone nimbus]

1 {Bugs with the Riot Shield:}
(1). If the shield is hit by a pyro grenade it gets lit on fire like a wall and the only way to survive is to get healed or run in smoke but medium has no smoke grenade. Your teammates can even kill you with this to troll. FIX A.S.A.P

(2). Sometimes when you pickup an carriable item your shield will cover your screen for no reason.

(3). The winch claw goes strait through the shield.

(4). Projectiles get stuck in shield and make it hard to see parts of the screen.

(5). Cant use communication wheel when blocking

2 {Problems with the Riot Shield:}
(1). Constant loud noise that makes it hard to hear footsteps.

(2). Melees are able to pretty much goes strait through shield

(3). Heavy's can kill you easily with charge slam, winch claw and sledge hammer. There is no counter to fighting this all you can do is run till your team shows up.

(4). It's hard to tell exactly where you're shield covers your body.

3 {Suggestions for the Riot Shield:}
(1). Add a parry to the riot shield so that you can block melee attacks or if some one hits a shield while blocking it cancel's the enemy melee animation.

(2). Reduce damage and knockback of charge slam while blocking.

(3). Reduce the sound the riot shield makes.

[sonic spoke]

Yes please

[inland cove]

huh? what is that? never seen something like that before. What exactly are we talking about?

[daring fossil]

its the same as being shot around corners but with the winch and it will pull you back around the corner through the door. on your end you're behind the wall already but on the heavies end he winched you when you were still visible. the interpolation has always been terrible in this game

[hidden acorn]

Are you guys cheaping out on the servers or something? What is up with the hit reg

[versed hazel]

idk if I'm the only one who feels this way but I have literally never had fun in a moving platform mode- especially in seoul. even when you're the one winning them it just feels so lackluster with teams just fighting each other before getting to the platform at all and by the time theyre done fighting- the cashout is again on the other side of the map

[stone hazel]

yeah i agree i wish the moving platforms went like half the speed they do and had a better path that didnt wrap around the outer edge of the map

[stone nimbus]

The Riot Shield:

** {Bugs with the Riot Shield:}** FIX A.S.A.P

(1). If the shield is hit by a pyro grenade it gets lit on fire like a wall and the only way to survive is to get healed or run in smoke but medium has no smoke grenade. Your teammates can even kill you with this to troll.

(2). Sometimes when you pickup an carriable item your shield will cover your screen for no reason.

(3). The winch claw goes strait through the shield.

(4). Projectiles get stuck in shield and make it hard to see parts of the screen.

(5). Cant use communication wheel when blocking

(6). Sometimes when you inspect the riot shield it does the default animation and you have to swap items to fix it.

{Problems with the Riot Shield:}

(1). Constant loud noise that makes it hard to hear footsteps.

(2). Melees are able to pretty much goes strait through shield

(3). Heavy's can kill you easily with charge slam, winch claw and sledge hammer. There is no counter to fighting this all you can do is run till your team shows up.

(4). It's hard to tell exactly where you're shield covers your body.

** {Suggestions for the Riot Shield:} **

(1). Add support score for blocking bullets with riot shield.

(2). Reduce damage and knockback of charge slam while blocking.

(3). Reduce the sound the riot shield makes.

(4). Add a parry to the riot shield so that you can block melee attacks or if some one hits a shield while blocking it cancel's the enemy melee animation.

[inland cove]

@versed hazel nope i like moving platform

@daring fossil isnt that just called shooters favor and thats how every FPS-game does it and embark cant do anything about client side lag or latency other than general optimization of package size?

[tame tendon]

Is there any updates on when we can invite people to party if even if your not host? it would be such a nice QoL change!

[daring fossil]

peekers advantage yeah but it's worse in this game than any other game I've ever played because of the server-side movement and destruction. Tick rate is probably low too which doesn't help.

[edgy urchin]

day 6 of asking embark to balanace the finals

hmm people arent consistantly playing i wonder why?

[fervent blaze]

for the love of god, please add fsr frame gen

[quick lodge]

remove ranked TA

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov zoom in and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.
• Pyro grenades "stick" to the shield and burn the player forever, making it also impossible to see

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

• Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam

[hazy shore]

the day rpg isnt able to be a secondary weapon, is the day the finals is saved. @sharp willow sounds like someone got carried by a 140 dmg braindead ability while complaining about a sniper rifle they have to aim 🤡

[somber axle]

Remove ranked TA

[sharp willow]

i think this might be a skill issue i fear

[shut cosmos]

1. Please for the love of everything. Implement severe punishments for leavers. It’s so so bad in world tour.

2. please fix matchmaking. I shouldn’t be paired with or against new players as someone who was diamond S2, has over 500 hours in, and is currently top 1k in WT. it’s a frustrating experience for everyone involved.

3. bring back cash out ranked

4. nerf RPG

[winter vapor]

Yeah it completely defeats the purpose of peeking and reaction times unless using a point and click weapon.

You're fighting and think you are winning then the server "catches up" and you take an additional 20 bullets after ducking.

It's a complete joke for an fps.

I'm assuming the devs love heavies as they just Gave them the grapple.

Now they have health, shields, more fire power and can disable your movement.

It's insane

[amber quest]

it would be appreciated if crossbody and upperbody bags could be used with the denim jacket.

also would it be crazy to suggest giving the option to wear one glove only for either hand? or maybe consider adding some more right handed gloves. [ only saying this cuz I like seeing the tattoos ]

[paper ivy]

no more camo

[sharp willow]

since ur clearly a light main maybe u should invest on something called the stun gun, i hear that its a great way for them to stop heavys from using their abilities or are u to fucking stupid to do that

[quick coyote]

can we give the sniper rifle damage drop off? i get it, its a long range weapon, but can it not kill you from across the literal map?

[cold lotus]

embark please like make a change don’t let this game completely die out

[warm crown]

There is currently a game breaking bug I’ve gotten two games in a row where I cant throw my gateways on light class even after I respawn still they aren’t throwable once it starts it doesn’t stop till the next game then inevitably stops working again in game

[high wing]

Well season 3 is a huge failure. It's lacking the most fundemental changes this game needs.

• No updated servers or improved netcode, meaning desync/delay is still there which can be up to 1 second if not more
• No improvements to hit-registration, meaning sometimes your shots/hit just does nothing
• Game did not receive any improved optimization, meaning it still runs like shit even if everything is on low
• No fix for crash to desktop
• No fix for PC crashing
• No fix for unable to do any action like using a zipline or attacking
• No fix for the parkour which still is unreliable and buggy
• Still not banning cheaters permanently
• No fix for the respawn system which in most cases gives advantage to respawning team
• Store credits still doesnt show real value of the price in euro or you local currency
• Gam needs more in-depth profiles with match history and stats
• Still can't see other players steam profile
• No specific keybindings for each class and loadout
• No setting for default skins in equipment menu
• No fix for sword/melee abusers, can still sword attack and quick attack, and emote/gadget switching for infinite dmg
• No UI for ping/latency
• Not removing aim assist from PC lobbies
• No improvement on visible stats/numbers on weapons and gadgets
• And lets not dive in to the balancing, its been shit all the time.

We all understand that this game released in an very early alpha stage but can we please get basic game improvements over new content

[rough herald]

last patch was W
no balance change, no crash fixs, no bug fixs, no optimization, even ta are still here to chu new player away thx embark 👍

[hard shoal]

Remove terminal attack 🥺

[oblique steeple]

i think it would be a good idea to make whoever does the most damage to a person gets the kill and the one who does the least gets the assist.

[broken geyser]

1. Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode.

2. Give more button optimisation for controller players for example triggering something or being able to choose an item with the double tap or triple of a button or swipe on the middle pad of a controller.

3. More character slots

[hollow wasp]

#removeTA

[pseudo breach]

Day 86 of asking for South African servers

[neon rune]

Now that the kitsune masks are out..

Let me use this fit dammit! I wanna equip the kitsune masks with the dxz hoodie man cmoooon

You can't just show me peak character design and not let me use it man 😭

[hard shoal]

Day 1 of ask for remove the terminal attack mode

[crimson pier]

Hello! Been playing a lot of terminal attack ranked here, top 500, and I’ve noticed a very common issue for the light class. It’s fairly obvious that light is the strongest class in TA not only due to everyone regenerating to 100 hp, but also because of the extreme versatility of the class for this particular game mode. All of the top 500 stacks I’ve played against usually consist of at least 4 lights which I think is an issue (coming from a light main), but this can be changed! Light has long range (great for chip damage which is an important aspect of the mode), recon abilities (2 sonar grenades which allows for teams of multiple lights to have practically constant recon), and thermal vision (a regenerating ability that can entirely counter a whole specialization). My #1 issue has to be the thermal vision, lights really shouldn’t be the ones to have it if they are the ones with cloak in the first place. This game is designed around rock, paper, scissors type of engagement, so I feel that medium should have thermal vision at the very least. This will encourage players to pick medium against teams with lots of lights, and diversify the class picks instead of multiple lights. To fix the long range chip damage aspect, all classes can regenerate to 2/3rd’s of their health (100, 165, 230) so that the sniper and LH1 aren’t so oppressive. If these other changes don’t make people play light less, then maybe recon can be changed by limiting sonar grenades to 1 that will regenerate over a longer time (maybe a minute) than starting with 2 sonar grenades

[warm island]

most of the time i end up down team mates in WT it isnt because they leave, its because they get the loading screen bug with a side of matchmaking penalty

[muted star]

WE NEED FACIAL HAIR

[fiery terrace]

Yo guys to keep game alive u should do something with game show idea, think in that way, we need that open beta atmosphere to success

[warm crown]

I love this game but sometimes the net code is very laughable such as dying around a corner and sometimes I die to someone who hasn’t even turned all the way to look at me yet so yeah the delay is quite obvious also the gateway bug needs a fix asap

[frosty obsidian]

hölle nein

[rough herald]

buff fcar a bit

[haughty lava]

Remove all classes. Remove all weapons. Remove all gadgets. Remove all modes. New mode, big flat empty circle map. FFA let players beat eachother with quick melee. This is the only way to make this fragile crying community happy.

[torpid sky]

Everything u said is true except the sword part, they've already removed emote cancel and gadget swap is considered a feature in all fps shooter games and actually it's completely useless to use it with sword and it doesn't increase the ttk at all i believe

[upper saddle]

Even more Weapon Suggestions for Season 4/5 to go with #👂┇game-feedback message

Medium Weapon Ideas-

An M110 Marksman Rifle to serve as Medium's DMR with a holo sight or irons, maybe a x2 scope.

A 1911 Handgun to serve as a high-rate of fire, accurate and hard hitting pistol with a small mag size and limited range for superb close quarters burst damage and aggression during rapid pushes.

A Holger-26 for Medium to serve as their own LMG with a lower DPS than the AKM and slightly worse accuracy but 60 round mag to lay down alarming amounts of Suppressive fire, such a mag size could prove invaluable to MMH teams where either the other Medium or the Heavy is a Melee Combatant.

Rhodesian FAL, an FN-FAL with inverted Recoil on Semi auto to serve as another alternative to a Medium DMR but with a unique and interesting Twist in the Recoil.

Light Weapon Ideas-

A .44 Magnum Lever Action Rifle to serve as a slower firing wonkier reload but harder hitting alternative to the LH1, lower range and headshot multiplier though.

Heavy Weapon Ideas-

Vicc's Minigun Idea found here at #👂┇game-feedback message I don't think this would be a good specialization although it'd make a fine primary weapon with the stats he's suggested, maybe with less range, arena destruction however and the ability to sprint and jump with it. overall this idea is relatively balanced but would serve to be a better primary than specialization in my own opinion.

Potentially a .500 S&W Magnum Revolver, to act like the R.357's bigger brother probably even being named the R.500, with a similar range but higher body shot damage and lower head-shot multiplier I think this would be a fine addition to welcome Heavy into the Pistols club.

[tidal wraith]

solid ideas

[pliant lion]

Yeah the servers have been an absolute joke lately. I'm consistently being killed while I'm at the very least a few meters behind cover. Best example I have is #👂┇game-feedback message

@upper saddle Nice suggestions IMO, I have some of my own:
For light I'd love to see a carbine style assault rifle like an AK-74u or a G36C. Something with a significantly lower fire rate than the XP-54, but with higher damage and better range. There's not really an option between the XP-54 and the LH1 right now, something like that would fill the gap nicely I think.

I'd love to see a medium SMG as well, something like a Vector or P90 would be cool. Either something like a Vector with relatively high damage, low mag size and high fire rate or a P90 with lower damage and bigger mag size and a bit of range.

For heavy I'd like to see a more "assault rifle style" LMG like an RPK or M4-style AR with a drum mag. Damage could be somewhat lower than the M60, higher accuracy and lower recoil with a big magazine (~50 bullets) and a quicker reload time than the Lewis/M60.

long story short I'd love to simply see a couple more regular guns instead of spears and throwing knives.

[celest haven]

I have a great idea - how about showing players that leaves recently game ? I just finished Terminal Attack and i noticed, that there are 2 players lacking, so i couldnt report them either teammates. Next idea are bots on place players who leave - its always a distraction. Maybe connecting players that are searching game. Playing a game where half team just left is not a pleasure and we cant leave either because of time limited block. You should think about this issues to make it better, still a great game and i wont leave cause of LoL players 🙂

[lavish shard]

NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE
NERF TK NERF TROWING KNIFE

[limpid pawn]

^This

[inland cove]

i think the whole light kit should be rearanged to stop them beeing seflisf prics and engage more in team play -> Different gadgets, different specialisations, much less disruptive

[rough herald]

DOOR STUCK

[fallen mirage]

I never quit matches. The only exception is a bug which occasionally happens whereby I can’t shoot or ADS. Maybe when you quit, you should have the option to report it was due to a bug. The devs could then check the log and you won’t get punished for leaving a game you can’t participate in. My issues are on the PS5

[lament vortex]

• Add smth like a kill cam
• Make the spectator cam face through walls
• fix terminal attack leaving players with replacement players or bots (as a last option)