👂┇game-feedback

[dull moth]

Please add more interesting dialogues between Scotty and June

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-man-gif-14278897

[icy kestrel]

#bringbackrankedcashout

[jagged knot]

Glitch mine is so annoying .... What the hell did you do with this game ... just full of jokes and annoying things which doesn't make any sense... The NUKE meta was better than this to be honest... at least we knew what the hell was going on .... heavys are so tanky that you can't kill them they have millions of HP and defenses... Medium is just throwing mines, it feels like WW2... LIGHT are so easy to kill but you made their weapon so strong that they are annoying to play against. and the worst thing added this season is the claw... oh lord it is a Insta kill weapon for a class that is already too strong and upon that, you guys added multi-hit on melee weapon. I THINK IN EMBARK ALL THE DEVS ONLY PLAY HEAVY THAT'S WHY HEAVY IS SO OVERPOWERED. Please listen to the community or the top streams/players and conduct a poll before taking this major decision. #bringbackrankedcashout

[gritty python]

@lapis dust l2p without cheats

[tropic oar]

I kinda wish we could see people specialization with tab, it is shown at the beginning but 1 second-ish is not enough to process the 5 enemy players

[mild pendant]

i was happy that ranked is now for terminal attack but i don't like that you need to play 13 Rounds or win 7 Rounds for 1 game, its the same as in CS2, i mean of course it must be harder to win but if you lose like 3 to 4 rounds it doesn't make any fun and your like when does this finally end.
that's why i quit CS2 and i really like The Finals i don't want to quit for the same reason.

[fiery patio]

Gameplay is at all time high. Never had so much fun in this game. Haven't touched a gun since new season

[rough storm]

-0 when 2 dumbasses leave after one round meaning ur basically f*ed

[rough herald]

People love to regurgitate the same shit every single day don't they?

[void blade]

I wish they would say anything at all about us being upset about TA, light buffs, and the lack if marketing … theyre such cowards to not address our disgust with their horrible decisions.

[cobalt coyote]

xD

[clear niche]

What do you mean

[ember sorrel]

Hello I talked to support in a ticket and he said he notified the appropriate department of this issue but I wanted to share it here as well. The Clipping with Darque Mood hair (not the one with the purple, the brown one) and the Skipper Salute. I dont know of many other oufit combos with bad clipping like this but i wanted to share it here as well.

[brisk garden]

just left a ranked match to see if voice chat would work and immediately reconnected. match still cancelled and i got a suspension. I was gone for like 15 seconds

[thick sorrel]

wtf, everything is right👍🏻

[lean tree]

When your teammates leave during ranked firstly heavier punishments (people be leaving for fun)... When two teammates leave its instantly 3v5 which puts you in a disadvantage. I got -700 RS. Trying to climb the ranks but these toxic teammates f* your game up...

[sonic wigeon]

NERF LH11 ITS OP AF

[tropic swift]

I played since CB2 and I loved the game ever since. I've never had so much affection for a FPS game because most of them would have anti-consumer practices to squeeze money out of their consumers, not like The Finals.

But I honestly thing this season is the first one that's meh. I love the map and world tour but ranked TA and the lack of change in the meta kinda disappointed me. The new weapons are very weak(except for the bow), LH1's buff felt more unnecessary since it was very good already, there are many other weapons that deserve a place, it would be so much fun if wacky weapons like the spear and duel knives becomes viable.

[tranquil cove]

we want the old rank

[umbral warren]

BRING BACK CASHOUT RANKED

[warm hill]

if lights wont be getting a nerf then there has to be a better way to counter them. if you're on an obj in an enclosed space and you're against a team of lights with sword/other and dash its impossible to win

@woven hatch you can get maybe one or two but not all three if they are prioritizing you as the target

[cyan flume]

World tour is a cash out ranked, isnt it?

[dry lance]

With the Twitch Rivals event tomorrow, I can't believe new players will potentially watch the event and try the game for the first time and get greeted with the requirement to play 3 rounds of Terminal Attack. Who's idea was that? It's literally the worst mode to introduce new players to the game.

[woven hatch]

sledge hammer proves to be effective in those situations

[novel lily]

Delete the sniper, its horrible on power shift bcuz everyone camps one spot and on TA its simply too op bucz of that easy one shot headshot on light and 2 headshot kill on heavy, this isnt fair

[spring cedar]

I am having so much trouble between every loading screen now, anyone else?

[supple mortar]

dome shield and mesh shield

[gritty umbra]

i hate being a hater for the release of season 3. I really want to enjoy the game but something feels different ab it now idk how to explain it. no it's not the melee weapons or hook, I actually really like the new additions in the game

[hexed vault]

yo were in a TA game where all the enemies left. Why tf do we have to still decrypt it 4 more rounds against 0 players
edit: game ended 2 rounds early, but now i cant que and have to reconnect to a empty lobby, ui is broken and only our team is in again

[near lava]

Won a game gained 400 elo lost a game lost 800 for losing one I have to win 2? On what planet does that make sense? I’m the only one on my team who went positive and played the game the right way and yet I’m still punished so severely? This game is actually the worst balanced game I’ve seen in a Min

[night dune]

I legit feel so bad for the developers right now, Entire player base is shitting on THE FINALS hardcore because the ppl who are trying to enjoy TA are having trouble with balance and cheaters and ranking system. And the loyal players who enjoyed Cash-Out, the main game mode since the game was released, don't get to play their preferred game mode as ranked anymore (which was semi-competitive at best). Sad that there is no easy answer to balance Cash-out and that Nexon has decided to nuke the finals

[wispy vault]

nerf LH1 its ridiculous
let us disable anti-aliasing

[zealous pulsar]

real

[main marten]

I can feel lil's tears, LOVE IT!

[novel dust]

turrets should be affected by glitch grenades to just fire at everyone
even if it's on your side
that's my lil 2 cents

[versed cloud]

I didn't write this, just resharing it because big if true.

[mental dagger]

Infinite loading screen.. reset game and reload with a base medium class when I started the game as light

[brittle harness]

it's not even good to play it casually on WT. the matchmaking is ridiculous and as a solo player you have to play with people that don't understand the basics. You can sweat and get entire team wipes solo just to see you loosing and your mates that are accidentally dead by jumping off a cliff.. So I just uninstalled it and I was here from CB.

[gritty owl]

i get illegal tool detected like every other game

[warped matrix]

Hello guys you destroyed the game is no sense im a diamond 3 and im palying with people without brain in the CASHOUT MODE and moreover without ranked and without competitive. This game could be a great game, but those devs are destroying it slowly. Im going to play another game until you work well and stop doing bullshit decisions

[radiant sedge]

Literally the game is destroyed, u can't delete and reset the older rank mode like this, now is unplayable.
I was diamong and now I only have a bunch of apes or afk with the new matchmaking, and the new ranked mode is a cheap copy of counter strike, please get back the older rank mode with the old elo or I'm out.

[tropic merlin]

Lh1 must have less fire rate

[brisk condor]

kyoto worst map ever

[supple pumice]

As a dimond myself I catch myself not trying now and probably play like a braindead too. Embark please bring back ranked 🙏

[gray linden]

I have now resigned myself to making sure that every light player that insists on being baiting trash, has a terrible time for the single round that they are on my team for. I will enjoy the garbage time, you will not.

[paper lake]

I feel robbed... Im Top 500 leaderboard and literly every round i get 2 to 3 players are constantly spamming sonar nades wich land perfectly on u. U get 2 tapped from a LH1 while ure invis. Than u get -1k Rp. And earn 400 if u get a 2kd 😃 love it... (If u dont get the ironie. Yes it was sarcastic)

[somber hound]

Nerf the fking turrets

[fleet trellis]

https://youtu.be/vTkrl74W1kw

[elder umbra]

please bring back cashout rank with better match making and better elo system

[haughty bay]

Why dont you guys already lube me up and fuck me in the ass because you made the game gay ass

[olive shell]

TERMINAL SADNESS SUCKS

[whole acorn]

lmao yo i hate terminal attack - i officially quit ranked lol smh watdafakk this game is so boring right now

[abstract rose]

please nerf light

[main knot]

Pink rabbit Is cheating

[quick coyote]

no

[keen path]

I've given s3 an honest shot. anyways see you back for s4 if the game will last till then.

[lean tree]

Another thing when the arena is rebuilding. Your game makes me somehow disconnect and then i need to reconnect is my statline completely gone and i can't play in the round??? Fix this please

[gritty umbra]

lights got what they wanted and became broken so congrats ig

[wooden atlas]

A couple of feedback requests:

• Dematerializer is my favorite med specialization by far—has been since release. However, I find it feels clunky to use. There’s a smooth flow in the movement of grappling hook and charge+slam, but I find that the tiny second required for demat to lock onto its target interrupts my movement by a little too much. A QoL change to make this a bit smoother to use would make my day.
• Dual blades are quickly becoming one of my favorite weapons, but I think they could use a bit of hitbox tweaking for the right-click function. The weapon doesn’t deflect projectiles unless they are coming practically directly at the block hitbox. Now, I wouldn’t want the weapon to cover your entire front and absorb literally every bullet—I’m just asking for a slightly larger and more forgiving hitbox that requires less pinpoint precision to be useful. That’s all.

[ashen junco]

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[peak zephyr]

this game had so much potential but now is slowly dying with every update 😓 plz team hire me as a creative game director I have 20+ years gaming experience I know what this game needs haha

[modest pawn]

I just WON in terminal attack and LOST 9 rs hahahaahh
they are really going to kill the game

[woven hatch]

it definitely covers the whole front i tested this earlier

[dawn hazel]

TA SUCKS BALLS. SO BORING AND RUINED S3

[silk moon]

Agreed. This is a completely different game now

[wind gulch]

I like TA (much less than Cashout) but the new players I keep trying to bring in hate it. They just want to play the game, they're not having any fun dying first & sitting around waiting for another chance to touch their controls. I cannot convince them to keep queueing for a mode they hate in order to unlock the fun one, they just alt + F4 and move on.

Please restore Quick Cash as a mode new players can access game one. Season 3 is kickass, but the new player experience is kicking asses right back out the door without so much as a whiff of what's cooking. Even counterstrike & valorant start you in a low-stakes deathmatch mode with snappy respawns before you unlock the competitive gametype.

[drowsy vector]

Hope you can find a good balance to make heavy feel good yet balanced. But now it kinda feels like ass playing it in TA ranked, even though I want to. M60 and Lewis are just so damn bad rn

[gleaming summit]

world tour map limits is also bullshit, what's is next Europe with only 1 map for 2 weeks? The game has 6 maps, who the fuck is doing these dumb decisions.

[winter lily]

Plz nerf the FLh1 (carabine) of the light, is destroying the ranked game (52 per shot) 🤷

[steel zodiac]

I played this game heavily from beta until season 2 ended. Stun mechanics have no place in a first person shooter. Invisibility has no place in a first person shooter. I could go on but I’m done with this game. So many wtf design decisions.

[stark orchid]

It would be really nice if the game had a jukebox.
Setting in the music category, so people could change between the different seasoned music. Or maybe customized the menus as they want period I know there could be a lot of implementation and work, but destiny would love to hear some of the tracks from. Season one again no

[paper lake]

They said they wont balance for TA. Heavy is till good in cashout. U have no other joice than live with it

[true field]

does anyone know how the points get calculated in World Tour?

[steel skiff]

Should change the name of the game, Instead of "The Finals" should be called "The LH1"

[haughty bay]

Reduce damage on light class weapons and take back the horrible update

[bleak plaza]

Please add a ranked score adjustment system that returns elo lost from past matches against cheaters who were later banned

[tame crag]

The Play again button on console got remapped to Y, which prevents you from replaying since that is the same button as reporting.

Also, as an LH1 main I’d say it’s in a decent position, perhaps a little too much damage but it seems likely that most of the anger is just because more people have started to use it. My overall damage and kills hasn’t changed much from before to after the update.

[acoustic elbow]

I got a diffrent map that wasn't kyoto in world tour

[versed cloud]

Nerf LH1

[pseudo breach]

Day 75 of asking for South African servers

[astral thorn]

team wipe should not disallow the team to use coins

[barren pelican]

Would the team have to vote to all use a coin at once then (together)? What would this looks like and what would be the difference vs what it is now? Pros and cons would be nice to see here since its conceptually not a bad idea.

[gritty wraith]

More variants for each body type per build per male/female
I can volunteer to sculpt them for you out of your base mesh so its still optimized. For free, I just like doing the art.
Can be done via morph targets so no need for new skeletons etc

Examples: (Male and Female versions for each as well ofc)
For Heavy: the base, more muscular, more fat/chub
For Medium: the base and "peak" physique (super-model?) variant.
For Light: the base and even skinnier?

If you want to hire me for other work I am open to that (Im a 3D Generalist). But otherwise im okay doing some morph target sculpting for free.

[teal carbon]

game crashed while loading into a ranked for the first time. now im suspended.

[bold silo]

WHICH SMART DEV MADE ANOTHER WEAPON FOR LIGHT THIS BAD

WITH BOW WHICH IS !!!SKILLSHOT!!! WEAPON YOU NEED TO HIT HEAVY 5 TIMES.

SMART

GAME STILL SUCKS LOL

[lofty gust]

TA needs to go

[glacial knot]

So much cheaters in Terminal Attack , player who kill you during evasive dash not after using evasive dash

[gritty umbra]

ok i think the game feels the way it does bc somehow solo queue is worse now than previous seasons. it's in part the servers but also ppl rage qutting or throwing your game or being literal bots

[umbral warren]

Got removed from a game due to ingame inactivity while on loading screen. Also, bring back cashout ranked and fix optimization issues especially on the new map (FPS drops, High CPU Usage, etc...)

[vale nimbus]

Feedback on the Ranked Score points on losses (and close wins). We shouldn’t lose RS when winning a 7-6 game (yes the opposing team had a lower average RS but it doesn’t make me want to continue playing when you lose even though you win). Give me +10 RS…something. Anything but negative.

Also please adjust how harsh you are punished for having a bad game or losing in general. We shouldn’t wipe out an entire 8+ hour ranked session (which included an 11 game win streak) in two back to back games where we had a bad game and lost, resulting in -1700 RS followed by another game losing against blatant cheaters which resulted in another -900 RS. Where we’d only gain +200-300 points on a 7-0 win. Progressively losing more points if a team won a round which only led to gaining less per round won.

These are my personal pain points but also shared sentiment with the groups I played with during these sessions. It really made me not want to play ranked until more players climbed to plat+ halfway through the season just to resume maintaining top 500.

[runic burrow]

Day 4 of asking for cash out ranked back. TA isn't what brought players to the finals and it won't bring new players. Will just cause older players to leave

[spark shard]

Remove TA not only for ranked mode, remove TA from the entire game.

[frigid marlin]

nerf both throwing knives and lh1 to pre buff stage, throwing knives are incredibly annoying to play against and sure you can call it a skill issue and I dont really care, the pre buff lh1 was perfect and I dont understand why you would change it in any way. pre buff lh1 actually required some skill to use and I loved using it as painful as it was to get a hang of now it's just incredibly unsatisfying to use. thanks for coming to my Ted talk

[tough merlin]

They're going to need to do smth -10k players since new season and we're already back to end of season 2 player counts (this is only referncing steam but its the only public numbers we can use.)

LOL @upper citrus that's pretty good imo

[upper citrus]

Fuck this boring ass gamemode

[unreal quail]

man can u guys stop saying games u dont like r dead, its just trying to pull down people who do like it :<

[lament marsh]

Give us more career or season stats to track and look at!

[sudden tangle]

Remove ranked TA
Make it cashout again
Season 3 kills the finals

Good way to balance ranked ta is to remove it @foggy dragon

[foggy dragon]

Move thermal vision to medium for TA would be a good step into balancing the classes out atm

[slow sentinel]

Revert the changes. No one likes Terminal Attack

[lavish shard]

Like kill the game kill the ttk
Nerf this fucking light

[crystal umbra]

I want this game to win so damn bad y'all got me watching the player count like a hawk

[somber hound]

Chashout > Terminal Attack

[ember maple]

Whoever made the decision to make TA best of 13 and buff the LH1 should be on a PIP immediately. If it's the same person they should just be let go. I would rather have nukes back than leave the LH1 as it is currently. It's either the strongest weapon in the history of the game or everyone using it is cheating.

[pastel ravine]

changing ranked from cash out to ta is just trying to be like everyone else. cash out is whats unique

[subtle copper]

panda skins should do +25% dmg to bamboo

[plush coyote]

Hey folks, been having a blast this season so far, at least in a casual sense, still a little bit bummed about the whole Ranked and World tour situation, but I'm not here to talk about those, I'm here to talk about some of the customization options in-game, so here it goes:

1. Separate Facewear and make a new Mouthwear and Eyewear categories: Would be really cool if we were allowed to have more options when it comes to the player's head customization.

2. Separate Headwear and make a new Ear piece and Hat/Helmet categories: Same as the topic above, it would be nice if we had more options, also, I would be interested in some ear rings/piercings cosmetics if they're made.

3. Show wrist cosmetics with any gloves and some upper body pieces : It genuinely sucks that some gloves and upper body pieces (like the all-weather jacket and the hoodie jacket) doesn't show us wrist cosmetics.

4. Allow us to buy previous seasons contracts and event items/passes with VR currency: This is one pretty much self-explanatory, there's so many cool looking items that we got from season 1 and 2, I personally believe that it's quite a waste to limit those items for those seasons, and also, this would give an extra use for the VR currency. This could be done in 2 ways: either allow the player to buy a contract with VR that comes with a set of challenges that they'll need to complete in order to get the items or just allow the player to straight up buy the item with VR in the customization menu and adjust the price of the item based on it's rarity.

5. Allow us to turn off some of the effects on some cosmetics pieces or make a new Effects category: Cosmetics pieces that make outfits such as the Ariad CNS look pretty cool but it can be a little bit annoying some of the effects that comes with it, it also makes your character stick out like a sword thump, having an option to turn it off or, better yet, make an effect category for our character would be pretty nice.

[valid badger]

Feedback after playing around 16hours on new S3:
Nerf LH1 - way too OP
Revert Lewis and M60 recoil change but keep the reduction in damage
Please bring back Cashout Ranked, TA is so boring and long

[nocturne surge]

Make TA an event that happens every season. I have yet to find someone who likes the change to ranked. I know at least 5 people including myself that lost steam for the game when season 3 launched. Please bring back the game that was was starting to love

[quick coyote]

Reload cancel for the Model 1887 please, just make it stop reloading if you attempt to shoot.

[fair peak]

Not sure who to tag for this but, is there any way for the cosmetics department to make it possible to wear these 2 pieces on my character? @quick coyote could you get this to the right person?

[pure arrow]

💜 Please please give us an option for TA Ranked to like…stay with group. Say at the end of the game you get the option to remain with some or all of the squad you ran with. You can vote yes to stay together and queue up for the next game, or ignore it to leave and go back solo. Since we now need 4 teammates including ourselves instead of two. It’s a lot harder to find 4 friends. This would allow people to stay together with players they work well with (and maybe make friends as a bonus) 💜

[tame crag]

The effects category idea is incredible. There are many cosmetics that I think would be top notch if it were not for their distracting effects.

Such as
The Arch Rival cosmetics
The Gaucho Bolero monochrome effect
/ Smoking Guns tv static effect
All CNS pieces

By the way, awesome job retroactively making bundles’ items purchasable individually.

[sacred siren]

you can shoot the moment you've loaded 1 shell after the start of the reload animation. this is true when reloading from empty (which makes sense) and reloading from non-empty states (which is most likely just a side effect of the empty gun check). basically, dont reload model until you have to, or just stop trying to shoot until the first shell is loaded in.

[modest warren]

Random quick 9 player
9 light wtf

[prime wing]

Welcome to the Lightels!

[limpid citrus]

Guys my challenge is bug i have to do 900.000 stuctural damage xd, my friend have to do 90.000

[glacial knot]

Start a vote to figure out how much percent of the community want to nerf the LH1. This is the best way. I guarentee you most people would nerf LH1 and remove terminal attack ranked

[violet wing]

Cashout, ranked or not, needs to be FIXED. A Frag fest where luck is the main factor is not an improvement over season 2, in case you guys at Embark need to be told.

[clever hawk]

Doing this is a marginal loss in ROF which is pretty terrible given the base ROF already leaves the gun worse off than meta weapons even at close range - its only viable range (unlike most meta weapons).

1887 needs +2 to max chamber & reload cancelling.

[spark shard]

TBH, I think the problem is Nexon: "The Finals Underperforms for Nexon in Q1 2024". Embark is doing drastic changes to change this situation.

• TA as ranked mode.
• Twitch Rivals
• ...

They are running out of options.

[rain epoch]

LH1 Tour has a weird bug where some people spawn as bigger people with guns that aren't LH1.

It's such a bad bug that in Terminal LH1, I sometimes see it too and it's frustrating becuase it literally throws the game.

[next meadow]

Is it me or is the game unusually laggy since S3 drop?

[tawny oriole]

Guys boycote terminal attack, because embark see how much players play TA ranked , if no one play it anymore, they will removed for sure

[fallow idol]

I feel like the loading screens to get into a game are so long, can they be shortened??

[fleet hull]

Me 2 and I play Terminal attack and if I leave with alt+f4 I get banned

[trail nymph]

UE5-Discovery is still a fucking issue even after I had this game running fine for multiple hours yesterday, now it just crashes on set up. thank god elden ring is releasing in a couple days, the finals has dogshit optimization

[bold silo]

After waiting for few months for devs to balance the weapons and classes to play again and them not doing anything, at this point it is clear they dont know what they are doing 🤣

Light is dog shit since game realese

[dark niche]

buff stun gun!!!! :D

[heavy raft]

I completed the beginner's tasks, but did not receive a reward
why?
Maybe it's a game bug?

[mellow narwhal]

Please let the first patch nerf lh1 to the ground id rather play hhm meta instead of that gun being this good, it was good previously and needed a range nerf and some muppet had a great idea of removing the visual recoil

[arctic summit]

I don’t think new players should be forced to play terminal attack for their first couple of games

[surreal meadow]

GAMEMODES:

TDM: Brainless fun.
3v3 Cashout: Those who like quick play / tournament without third parties
5v5 Cashout Those who like the chaos of the core formula without third parties, and larger team size

[cold bolt]

I'm not going to play a match in progress, don't put me in one 😁

[river hill]

Add twerk emote

[fleet sedge]

The new credits screen looks amazing. Way to go to the people that made it.

[shadow solar]

the new ranked mode is trash

[astral condor]

cash out ranked plz brother

[hidden spire]

guns wont fire healing beam wont trigger in tournament wtf embark fix this shit

[glacial sierra]

you eventually get kicked for being AFK if you just wait it out. annoying in casual. in ranked i was able to then re-join the match from the main screen and it loaded properly. we still lost the tournament and ranks went down, because it was the final... : (

[plush plume]

Please Embark, you guys do not understand how a 5v5 bomb defusal game mode works, it is literally not compatible with the game design of The Finals at it's core. I wrote a paragraph like this before but I'll do it again and again until someone listens. Can anyone tell me, did you guys actually look at other tactical shooters before you made this mode? Didn't you realize what all of them have in common? Didn't any single one of you come to the conclusion that maybe just maybe these things, that all of these 5v5 bomb defusal games have in common, might be essential for the genre to work? Or did you just ignore it because it was a rushed decision by Nexon because they saw that genre doing well and thought "lEt'S dO tHaT". Like I love tactical shooter, I have about 5000 hours scattered across a few games, but The Finals' adaptation of the game mode is probably the single worst gaming experience I've had in a long long time.

[elfin badge]

as a casual player with zero interest in ranked... i really like season3! new map looks amazing! new soundtrack is great. lovin the world tour.

[quick coyote]

lh1 op

[rain quest]

Add attachments
You unlock them by leveling up the gun
And add a minimap

[brave jacinth]

Really??? Nooooo

[restive crescent]

world tour is a ranked mode.

[bold bone]

You guys NEED to make it so new players dont need to play 5 games of Terminal Attack before Twitch Rivals. Especially since they're going to be playing cashout at Twitch Rivals. New players are going to want to play cashout, be forced to play Terminal Illness instead, and quit.

[fiery patio]

remove sniper. People get rewarded for not playing the game. I'd rather be gunned down by aimbotter than hitscan sniper. At least the first is around the objective

[gritty wraith]

to add to this, sims style sliders would be neat, with limits to coincide with hitboxes, but basically more customization down to the actual "human" not just their clothes would be amazing

#👂┇game-feedback message REAL

[violet wing]

Not really, you don't loose points, you just gain them. So more playtime >more skill. And progression is limited to gold.

[olive summit]

anyone els lagging hard every single game since the new season 3 update

[whole acorn]

brooo i wanna play this game so bad lol but its a horrible experience every time - i kinda don't like kyoto its big as hell and hard to manuever in and even see people. the overlapping cashouts is crazy af too it just be sandwich city

[desert merlin]

https://youtu.be/vTkrl74W1kw
The Current State Of Season 3 (The Finals)

[neon wasp]

Facts

[clever hawk]

The LH1 was already one of the best weapons in the game, it only saw little usage because only the best players could control its wild recoil.

I recommend reverting the damage buff (which affects breakpoints and is thus invaluable) and further reducing the ROF by a decent margin.

As it is, the LH1 deletes enemies of any class at all ranges. The buff to its stability aids it greatly at long range and the buff to its dispersion makes it strong at close and even point blank range.

The usability buffs (stability, dispersion) feel good, so I’d keep them. But the spammability of the gun is way too strong.

Further reducing the ROF should hurt it least at long & medium ranges - its natural areas of prowess - and most at close ranges, where it should not be remotely this strong.

Another avenue to consider would be adding a wilder recoil that kicks in quickly if the weapon is fired at max ROF.

The LH1 also has 15 in the mag, which might be something to lower on top of the aforementioned damage/ROF nerfs.

I have written previously on why Light needs extreme burst damage to be viable and why this is unfun for all parties: #👂┇game-feedback message

[lilac coral]

Yes it’s lost me games and the dagger needs a nerf

[rose vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/shibecord-mod-abuse-domain-expansion-gojo-bigshibe-gif-1252041892102611504

[quick coyote]

FIX CASHOUT STEAL PROGRESS BAR!!!! I just lost the final round of World Tour because 100% steal progress doesn't mean anything if I get winched claw at 101% progress.

[prime wing]

just joined a match to the message "sniper cheating be careful lads" the more things dont change the more they stay the saaaaame, oh wait lmao it was literally the match i PREVIOUSLY LEFT. wondering how a single light had all the kills on the enemy team in powershift xD

[wind phoenix]

I honestly wish you guys would add more Player x Player emotes so you can high five other people / maybe a hug emote

[sage blade]

Another L from embark ngl, they removed the feature to reroll daily contracts and i keep on getting the same boring and repetitive dailies

[gritty owl]

Light is in a decent state now, except lh1, that really needs a nerf/get reverted.

Double sword feels great to play, bow aswell.

Spear feels kinda "sluggish", maybe that's just me tho.

TA needs it's own, less open maps/versions of the existing maps and should be balanced independently, it really doesn't work well as is.

Cash out should be changed so half the money is extracted over time and the other half when the time is up. That way it's less frustrating when it gets stolen last second, but it still matters who holds it at the end.

Love the Kyoto map.

Normal cash out should always be available as a playable mode.

Need option to save outfits and to randomizs loadouts/outfits

[west trellis]

Almost every time I get winched as a light it breaks my game and puts me in a state where I can no longer use special and all of my movement inputs are delayed by like a full second. Persists for the entire game with no choice but to just quit

[surreal meadow]

PING DIFF

[round hornet]

Why are the world tour servers so damn bad? I had to abandon my last one because it was taking a full second to switch to my damn Zipline.

[haughty zephyr]

yes i am

[candid flower]

Winch claw litterly an insta kill on lights

[olive summit]

glad to know i aint the only one i wanna play kyoto so bad lmao

[tame crag]

If I have the high ground a winch claw is the most unsatisfying way to die from it. As light you can’t escape if you are within a 20m range of the heavy, there is no fun counter play to that.

I was nearly exactly 20 m above a heavy and they winch clawed me, I tried to grapple away but since light has so little hp there was not much to do. This is the same issue the stun gun had.

[maiden igloo]

The best way to counter Cloak + LH1 is Cloak + LH1 ._.

[rapid current]

LH1 needs a nerf in the next patch

[fringe burrow]

Yall need to completely rebalance this game, was about to win a world tour against a LLM team since we were just better, 1 cashout up and about to take second with all of us 4 or 5-0 against them, then the lights rage switch to throwing knives and win the game, this is absolutely absurd. This is just astounding how yall are deciding on these changes. I dont even use my revolver main anymore because its totally useless close range ESPECIALLY NOW which is what u guys balanced it around for some reason. S2 honestly was honestly pretty good for the entire time but this new season feels terrible in every way. I went and tried LH1 light and I felt disgusting dropping 20 kills with like 0 effort lol.

[barren vault]

Heavy's pull ability is OP

[rigid shale]

dual swords feel really good to score hits with ⚔️

[supple obsidian]

Terminal Attack was and is a terrible mode.
5v5 Quick Cash would fix the issue of third partying and it would provide a 5vs5 mode in line with the Cashout core gameplay.
5v5 Quick Cash would be a superior ranked mode to TA if you don't want to bring back CO.

[visual sinew]

FSR 3.1 please and thank you :)

[ornate idol]

I constantly end up stuck on the map loading screen and eventually get kicked from matches for inactivity

[sharp snow]

The light class seems pretty balanced at this point but I think it would be great for the devs to add a “heal splash” gadget that heals anyone on their team in the radius up 50 health (small radius of like 3 meters) and a cooldown of 30 seconds

[haughty bay]

No, lights shouldn’t exist

[fierce valve]

Give some leaver penalty in casual modes

[jagged cedar]

YESSSS YESSSS THIS

[kindred lion]

there is a glitch with the knives that makes it so the emblem on it takes up the whole screen and I cant see

[tawny oriole]

Start verifying top 500 stats you will ban 50% i guarentee, i play the finals since beta and i know if someone cheating or not. People never miss one bullet in TA ranked,

[subtle copper]

sometimes the gateway bugs out and you can't use it for the rest of the round, even after dying

[river hill]

Please add twerk emote, it's the only solution to saving the Finals.

[quick coyote]

🥲
getting killed by lh1

[next raft]

What's the point in having a "Press escape to main menu" when it doesn't do anything for another 7 seconds?? How about that prompt pop up only when I can actually go back..

[azure harness]

Light is so easy. If you play light you probably also read at a 2nd grade level and have adhd.

[quick coyote]

Buff lmgs, nerf utilities like RPG and charge

Bro the LH1 is so busted everybody is abusing it on nuke level they need to stop over buffing light weapons

[abstract harbor]

Day 213 of stating the obvious: Four teams doesn't work.

[unreal fossil]

Just another Quick Cash game. For clarity, P= Light, L= Heavy.** So that's 8 out of 9 players playing Light, including myself**.

Small experiment tonight playing Light only, with the XP54. I **effortlessly **reached 3:1 to 6:1 KDR in most QC games like this one. Meanwhile, I've spent the last couple nights playing M/H, and struggling to even reach 1:1 KDR.

I would consider myself an average FPS player, with good experience on The Finals (550+ hours). The fact that the same player (myself) has opposite feelings and experiences playing L and M/H is worrying me.

I know, I know, The Finals is not about KDR... It's about the objectives. But winning rounds is not everything either. The journey to get there matters. And if the journey consists of getting beamed time and time again, it's not a pleasant one. I never got that feeling when playing Light, because I could easily win fights, or evade them if I couldn't. My lower HP count was never an issue. However, I often felt very frustrated when playing M/H, unless I managed to pull off miracle moves, or played with two skilled friends + VC.

Don't really know how to word it properly, but my point is: Light was always deemed the weaker class because it saw less use in competitive games, for obvious reasons: it brings less value to the team, and its main strength (being able to stack up kills fast) gets negated by skilled stacked teams with VC.

But it always dominated in casual games. That's a core design issue of The Finals. And if I, an experienced player, get frustrated when getting domed by swarms of Lights, imagine how a newer player feels. And how it can easily deter someone from even playing more.

People have been complaining that M/H were too prevalent in competitive games. I think that's how things should be. With M/H, the team-play classes, being the main focus. And L being a class that's only good in the hands of the most skilled players.

[brisk flume]

this the best one yet

[green nova]

An idea for tournament mode is have the first round be cash out, second be bank it and the third be power shift.

[woeful crescent]

it'd be sick to add limited color variations or a palette for clothing

[versed cloud]

Too many sonar grenades for terminal attack. Legit 5 lights with 10 sonars

[junior relic]

This game has no reload canceling. That's enough said about Embark and their FPS designing expertise. That's just so bad, so many little things are done wrong, that every other FPS have been doing right for generations

[vague igloo]

then dont play it

[plain dune]

lights have became way to OP in this new ranked season from a full stack with lh1 and sonars and they can beat you to the middle of the map there is no defence to it. please make an adjustment

[prime wing]

bow bow bow lh1 bow bow sniper lh1 bow bow

[cursive warren]

Constructive criticism:

Balancing
• I don’t appreciate the fact that you guys take one step forward and multiply in steps back, the meta is completely broken.

The fact that you nerfed the tazer because it was “too strong” yet let another version of the tazer fly via the damn Heavy grapple hook is completely ignorant, you made an even worse problem than you did previously, make the grapple skillful because it’s been plenty of times ive gotten grabbed THROUGH objects and from a far distance may i add; Nerf the range, the cooldown and make it to where the player needs actual accuracy to use it/make the collision on it very strict, its too lenient.

Another broken problem is the LH1, im 100% confident that nobody & i mean NOBODY asked for this weapon’s damage to be buffed, that was completely uncalled for and now us players have to deal with 2-3 shots that we cant even challenge majority of the time due to how the game plays, the only change that needed to happen was for the weapon to have it’s recoil adjusted heavily and you did that, revert the dmg back or nerf it by a little from its previous dmg value.

You got to have a week - 2 weeks of stress testing before you release these updates, nobody wants to play a new update and stress until the next hotfix is scheduled (which isnt quick may i add), it just ruins the economy of the game.

[paper hare]

just had a glitch where the entire enemy team was pinged the whole match in powershift
https://youtu.be/KvuBUsrYwhQ

[hollow breach]

When are we going to get Death Go Boom and Sentry turret map variations back? Also please make events more impactful :(

[frank kernel]

I play on console…why did you guys change the “next game” button from the summary screen to the same button as “report player”? It was perfectly fine before with the L1 button.

[fleet hull]

Lol how did the game determine that I was AFK before I can choose my class, the big screw up is that in terminal ranked if I leave before the 1st round the whole game get cancelled and I’ll be banned for 10 minutes.

I hope they can fix this problem.

[sacred inlet]

LH1 needs nerfed asap...

[stuck forum]

So, I’ve been lagged out or locked into the loading screen glitch 5/7 matches when I hopped on. I’ll keep supporting the game but this isn’t feasible.

[south mauve]

maybe there could be a compromise between completely disabling the stunned player's special and allowing it; right now i feel like its too overpowered again; if you get stunned by a light theyre going to shred you with an m11 so fast youre not going to realize whats happening until youre spectating them dash away

[hushed lotus]

Terminal Attack ranked mode is not bad, the only problem is the 20 seconds to prepare, it just makes the game way too slow and honestly who does really prepare, everyone just spams shoots and start going crazy

[fierce valve]

Satisfactory + Finals Crossover when

[pulsar jay]

I mean I dont think anyone would've called taser op if light had to give up dash/grapple/cloak to use it, kind of a false equivalency

[small prism]

LH1 Needs to get its damage reverted at the very least. Lewis also needs its recoil reverted though the damage nerf should be kept

[warm herald]

Bro is spitting heat here. I agree with the hook issues. This is Roadhog 1.0.

[quick coyote]

I can't even find a world tour match on Australian servers why is the game so dead the season just started
Have to play on Asian servers

[grizzled wyvern]

Something is dangerously wrong with the solo-que matchmaking. Team is very under skilled compared to an enemy team that does nothing but play this game and have perfect coordination. 90% of the time I'm top-fragging and no matter how many times lost it seems to be the same.

[lavish vessel]

Love the new season but the cashout bar isn' really working the way it should in quick cash and tournaments.

Also make it possible to hide text chat or block ppl in text chat. Now it's even more noticable when u play with random toxic ppl. And yes, I did put the setting to avoid bad language but still... making me frustrated and that interrups the gameplay.

[small socket]

The new ranked is actually good

[cursive warren]

Wouldnt be a false equivalence, the main reason people complained was because they had limited options to fight against it, its the same for the hook now but worse because they have a high health pool with a basic 1 shot to 99% health combo for FREE, thats why its the same issue but worse.

[glacial plaza]

you can see the influx of light play that the class is op, do not at me when Syncdez can out play everyone without all the buffs

[ember maple]

The LH1 is a monstrosity... But on the bright side I think the Motion Sensor change is the best change made to a gadget so far. Really well done there.

[tame quest]

Still getting a lot of server sided issues and packet losses, not sure what's up..

[unreal fossil]

Same for the Glitch Trap, that I've been using more recently, although I still find it a bit underwhelming.

[jade inlet]

sledge needs to slow down heavy a lot more. Seems strange that a heavy can catch up enough to get hits off

[quick coyote]

Heavies should have to hit their shots and be rewarded for being able to do so. LMGS shouldn’t have zero recoil like how the m60 was changed. Give them good damage, but bad recoil. Like an ACTUAL LMG. In compensation for a recoil nerf but damage buff to heavies LMGs:

Nerf the broken DPS utility. When nerfing the primaries, even good heavy players will crutch on RPG and charge more. Nerfing these broken DPS utilities will cause heavies to play more into their defensive and destructive roles, and have rewarding and stable LMGs to rely on.
Not zero damage plink machines with no recoil (current m60).!

[quick coyote]

Why do you want to nerf the dagger lol

[onyx current]

just played and won a rank match and got - 14 😭

[quick coyote]

reduce data reshaper cooldown, thanks.

[graceful hollow]

blud got 0 damage and died 13 times

[quiet summit]

couldnt relate to this more, i do this every other day aswell, absolutely love this game and just want to see it have a healthy player count as long as they update the game

[quick coyote]

show us the algorithm for the ranked score because it still doesn't feel like it makes sense

[lilac pelican]

Have people complained about heavy spear glitching out power shift platforms and making the platform fling around?

[abstract harbor]

pLEASE FIX GETTING STUCK ON LOADING SCREEN.

[tawny oriole]

Nerf the fucking LH1:its cheater Favorit weapon , verify LH1 users you will see that 80% never miss one bullet

[hollow iris]

Guess this has been mentioned a bunch, but imo the lh1 is really ridiculous, game isnt fun when there's an lh1 in the match, its just which lh1 sees the other first.

[upper citrus]

Nerf lh1

[pulsar jay]

nerf lh1

[quick coyote]

Nama Tama wants movement for Medium🥹

[clever glacier]

Nerf Throwing Knifes

[simple hull]

all these calls for LH1 nerfs while heavy 1 basically 1 shots light with half their kit. Shoulder bash, rpg, then they have winch claw and hammer or spear. Light needs the damage. It's not which light sees which first, you actually have to land shots. makes me laugh

[maiden igloo]

Stack/SoloQ should be heavily considered in TA Ranked in terms of losing/winning ranked points

[rotund rock]

Got stuck on loading screen multiple times today

[swift pulsar]

nerf lh1

[naive carbon]

All you talk is Heavy, what about Medium? that makes you laugh too?

[eager vine]

Was on World Tour second round and there was only one team left with two players I don't know what happened

[crisp bobcat]

All of the things you mentioned on heavy more or less have to be used within a 15m radius. LH1 is absolutely INSANE at basically any distance. Remember how much everyone complained about one class having a gun that is absolutely top tier at any range in prior seasons?? (Looking at you, FCAR.) yes light needs high DPS to be viable, but considering how much their gadgets are extremely beneficial for TA, the LH as it is now is overkill. Before season 3 it was an extremely high skill ceiling weapon but with the recoil and control changes it’s super easy to use now.

The other thing with TA is - at round start sure you have an hp advantage vs a light but with lights having so much range and ability to hide/find enemies with sonars odds are good you will take damage when pushing objectives or rotating. Now all of a sudden you have a class with DRAMATICALLY higher DPS/TTK than the others but everyone has 100hp. Idk if you’ve ever experienced playing against 5 lights all running LH1 but it is MISERABLE. Ten fucking sonars?? Might as well just bring back recon senses

[gray flare]

dude wtf did yall do to the LH1 i see ten of them every fucking game and they pulverize everyone

[late fern]

Please nerf the LH1 and fire whoever thought it would be a good idea to even add it to the game

[icy vine]

I have an idea for after the game ends and announcing the winner team. I was thinking of Scotty and June saying the game is over, the screen goes dark, you'll see flashes of the winning team players walking, either giving high fives, chest bumps, etc. then Scotty announces the winner and the team as usual does their intro emotes.

[graceful hollow]

they've been quite transparent about it, why do you need to know the algorithm? are you unhappy with how much you lose and gain? In which case I'd remind you of the "individual performance" contributor

[quick coyote]

its the least important metric they use, from what the ingame information says. And it definitely doesn't matter much.

lh1 op

[opal plover]

Today I saw someone get perma-cloaked for a full game, and someone else get perma-tracked for a game. What is going on lol.

Btw, give us 9 loadouts instead of 6 :)

[hollow iris]

Also im not sure if this'll get seen, but I appreciate TA for what it is. I just wish they went down the route of what TeamFortress 2 did back in the day when they introduced Arena maps (no respawn matches)..

Health stations and various other rules in TF2 were universal and just worked in Arena maps, no need for balancing two different games.

Hope some inspiration can be taken from what made those mechanics work, such as map scattered healing stations/pickups, and other various methods of preventing healing and providing healing for some.

[daring ravine]

We need full keyboard and mouse support on consoles. They constant cross play with PC players can be unbearable at times.

[tame quest]

Please make the rewards from World Tour and Ranked universal, that way we're not stuck playing TA for skins we've waited so long for (diamond lewiiiiis) (also this would need World Tour to go past gold)

[versed cloud]

Nerf LH1

[soft rock]

Nerf lh1 facts

[brisk garden]

NERF LH1, NERF SONAR, REVERT S3 RANKED CHANGE

[quick coyote]

Nerf LH1 Nerf sonar revert m60

[fiery patio]

The alternative fire of spear is weak and inconsistent. Pushing cashbox and objects is great value, but hits against players often do not get registered. (Even when they do dmg is still low)

[onyx current]

if only, I went 10k 7d u bum

[dim tangle]

nerf lh1 immediately makes the game entirely unplayable when the gun has entirely no recoil and is just a laserbeam cross mapping when they fucking tap fire most unbalanced shit i've ever seen

[haughty bay]

Increase damage on shotgun

[olive fulcrum]

Revert Ranked Changes. :( I miss playing The Finals, but now I have such little desire to because to get comeptitive matches, I need to play TA which is just such a bore.

[true zinc]

I KEEP GETTING A GLITCH WHERE I DONT LOAD INTO THE MATCH BUT I CAN HEAR AUDIO. I TRIED CLOSING GAME AND OPENING IT AND I MADE IT BACK IN TIME BEFORE THE MATCH WAS TERMINATED BUT IT STILL TERMINATED FIX YOUR GAME!!!!!!!! NOW I HAVE A 2 HOUR BAN AGAIN BECAUSE IT KEEPS HAPPENING. FIX THE GAME

[gray flare]

im in world tour right now and theres eight lights, two teams are running entirely lights lh1 and sonar, this is fucking ridiculous. like genuinely how did this buff make it past playtesting. oh my god
this isnt even hyperbole im going to stop playing if the lh1 doesnt get nerfed, if this shit was able to get past the brainstorming phase i shudder to imagine what other horseshit yall are gonna concoct later down the line

[delicate marlin]

Please fix crashes. This game is pretty much unplayable. Every 30 mins there’s a crash

[real tartan]

My game is always showing ther server icon like if they were having traffic? I'm not sure if I'm the only one lagging but any other game I play but The finals runs fine, are there any server issues right now?

[dreamy charm]

There wasn’t any play testing. Embark doesn’t think these things through

[floral thorn]

nerf lh1 and throwing knives as soon as possible i beg you

[dim yacht]

2nded

[rapid hound]

I’m done with the finals till LH1 is nerfed

[spice crescent]

I keep leaving games on Powershift where the map is Kyoto. And yet, it keeps putting me in matches where it's Kyoto.

Kyoto is really unfun to play. It's gorgeous, but the bamboo forest sucks, the buildings crumble way too easily into annoying rubble, and the sightlines leave no room for playing anything but light. It's not fun.

[graceful hollow]

bros playing against 0rr bronzes 😭

[lime lichen]

The devs would actually need to use their brain to brainstorm which they obviously didn't, if they did the LH1 wouldn't have been buffed. Idk what the devs were smoking but it must have been some really good shit

[outer grove]

just lost the final round of world tour to a team exactly like this, just melted our whole team from very far away all the time

[candid flower]

Just loaded into world tour by myself and i cant leave other wise i get penalized

[pulsar jay]

"skill issue"

-embark

[crisp cobalt]

how to report cheater ?

[real raven]

bring back cash out for ranked. TA is horrible. Whoever thought it was a good idea needs to be re-advised on good gameplay

[finite garnet]

Is anyone constantly getting insane rubber banding today?

[swift pulsar]

surely yall nerf the lh1 before twitch rivals tomorrow right?

[quick coyote]

This is such a joke dude. The matchmaking is still just garbage. I just had a TA where not a single other person had a positive KD. 2 players had 1 kill each in 11 matches. i'm regularly getting teammates that are either throwing or blind. 0-11 on the regular, less than 1k damage. Never seems to happen to the other teams tho. This is such fake manipulated bullshit matchmaking, the servers suck. How are you gonna make a game with this kinda gameplay and be industry standard scum in every other fashion? ya'll really gonna let your game die over trash matchmaking and garbage servers. Just make a good game with good infrastructure and people will hand you money. But this engagement based bullshit, this industry standard F2P manipulative bullshit is a joke.

[gray flare]

who else is excited for lh1 sonar rivals

[feral mirage]

TA sucks

[gritty umbra]

game theory they made the game the way it is now for this reason specifically

[dreamy charm]

How about we relax on the melee and work on the guns in the shooter game
Lotta fun weapons getting neglected cause it’s not “meta”

[untold cypress]

Hot take; people that say TA is boring are the first ones to die & just watch teammates play.😂

[quartz cedar]

TA ranked sucks. No economy, too much loading + waiting times. Give us back Cash Out ranked ASAP. 100 days is way too long.

[hushed lotus]

Nerf LH1 what an unnecessary buff lol

[lapis dust]

I 2nd this as a Light LH1 pre-buff main, shiz is way too overtuned 💀

[cloud furnace]

Double complain: TA is not that fun to me and world tournament more sweaty than ever for L

I miss normal cashout

[mystic briar]

Prop hunt mode

[rain epoch]

Game has random issues where it freezes in menus at times, will freeze sometimes in while loading and hang while the game starts, will even hear the game starting with count down and everything but will just have loading screen up.

[mild girder]

ranked should be 3v3 so less randoms can throw my games

[amber garnet]

omg this exactly

[manic steppe]

Just tried to show my friend how bad Terminal Attack is my game didn't load in then game crashed now I am banned for 10 minutes. Wasn't even in ranked TA. WTF is Embark doing.

[gray flare]

if lh1 doesn't get nerfed i'm quitting

[steady flame]

do something about spawn killing

[worldly bluff]

New ranked mode is boring. Tbh I was maining this game last season but I see this change and no more playing for now.

[cobalt coyote]

HAHA Welcome to The Terminals

[wispy latch]

Cold Take: TA makes no sense in this game the map design and gameplay doesn’t match to the finals….if I want to play this game mode I play csgo,valo or cod

[waxen hollow]

lh1 light 💀

[haughty bay]

I am done , this game is gone to shit constant crash in ranked matches

ARs so horrible now like they have no use , one advantage they had against heavy was range and now with those chains you took that away Every match I see players running with either a shotgun or a melee weapon or smg (because lights have godlike powers)

[drowsy cargo]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CrunchySmellyGuanacoDxCat-xXcW5Jc-qU9a-rnB

[unique meteor]

The dual blades should block melee attacks while deflecting atleast the dual blades itself

[lime lichen]

Or at least parry and stun if it won't deflect the melee damage

[quick coyote]

They def should

this new ranked is horrible can we please have the old ranked its what made this game unique tired of these 5v5s

[wintry oyster]

World Tour needs MMR. For the love of God, my teammates are some of the worst players I have ever seen in my 200+ hours in this game. I didn't know players could be worse than bronze like wtf. Bring back ranked cash out, just scrap the heavy claw, and fix matchmaking. I'm seriously not playing until ranked is back or there is actual matchmaking in World Tour. For now, I (another diamond player who loves this game) will not be returning.

[torn oar]

TA mode : 10% try hard , 10% new player, 60% hacker, 20% hacker teamate

[gritty umbra]

this

[cold bolt]

add white cape so I can cosplay as one punch man (once I unlock the gloves and anime body paint)

[quick coyote]

fcar nerfed too much
lh1 op

[somber axle]

i wish i can send a clip of me got softlocked by the game into not allowing me to shoot or even interact and even plant mines, but somehow im not allowed

[fiery patio]

spear secondary emote cancel should not be a thing. PC has advantage here

[plain harness]

I wish vrs have use after unlocking everything ng

[cerulean mason]

WHY DID YOU BUFF THE LH1

[delicate token]

Bow buff would be nice (125/250 damage full charge instead at short/medium range?), as well as more sensitivity customisation and clarity. And add the ability to undraw it.

Better matchmaking needed, and an actual skillful ranked mode (non terminal attack, less brain-dead teammates, and losing with individual performance consideration to lose less/gain more). Terminal attack, maps are huge, meta is terribly stale, and health regen should actually exist in there, not this monstrous abomination prioritising defence and high first shot damage weapons. Current world tour isn't even ranked, nor balanced due to horrific mm and people sometimes gain barely anything off a win and lose catastrophic rr, again due to horrid mm and system. The dual blades need a better deflect, and ability to have more weapons in reserve or just swap to anything in powershift/quick play would be way more fun. You can't shoot in between fences or anything, so hitboxes between objects are really scuffed, and very noticeable on single shot weapons in certain situations. You can shoot someone's head on screen and really be shooting the goo.

Being shoehorned into max 2 weapons is boring especially as there are so many interesting weapons. FCAR might need something to make it more interesting, seeing as the only thing it has is a better scope tbh, but I love the akm so I'm not bothered. Better pc optimisation would also be nice!

Releasing special animated skins/ones with tracers like a cyberpunk sorta thing would be sick!

[vague crater]

The hit box of the arrow is kinda too big , its harder to shoot through fences and bamboos than bullets , and sometimes even stuck on the invisible wall when peeking corners . The damage is not enough for such a skill weapon in my opinion

[pseudo latch]

Day 92 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, you’re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

Also holy shit nerf LH1 this things insufferable

[hardy garden]

yes

[surreal kestrel]

Sonar grenade range is too big, it feels too hard to get out of its range plus light's speed they get too much time to catch an enemy from behind

[vague tide]

Heavy is just not having a good time this update lol

[tawny glade]

Give me a damn soloq already. This season blows playing constantly against 3-stacks

[long herald]

I was wondering what i can do to make enemies that are far away look more clear instead of this like smeared paint look when they move, i think it has something to do with ray tracing but im not sure.

[upbeat shale]

need a revamp for recurve bow so you can draw back while cloaked bcuz we can charge the sword while cloaked

[ripe coral]

Pretty accurate list ngl

[gritty umbra]

ranked is not fun. unplayable. just wasted 2 hours of my life in the worst matchmaking with people that just started. genuinely gives me a headache to even play anymore

[olive fulcrum]

My take; people who say TA is boring are the absolute beastly players who are bored waiting 45-60 seconds between rounds, just to fight one very short, or very drawn out fight.

I'm dying of boredom so I just don't play it.

[fervent vortex]

That is easily the worst list made by man kind, sa is the best heavy weapon and mesh shield is the only viable ability without double, and why tf is tazer, the literal 2nd best ability in the bottom, brother you cannot complain about balance when you play the game like a casual and expect the devs to balance around you, thing is they kinda do so rip me I guess, also c4 and thermal are must have so we are just wrong on another level

[cold bolt]

the good players hate it too, watch the top streamers in the leaderboards when they stream, all they do is constantly complain about the mode

[languid valley]

EOMM in this game is particularly bad, In my 500 hours I only remember about 2 out all of my random teammates I've ever gotten have been competent.
You gotta full stack with premades to combat the EOMM, I've been doing this since beta and otherwise you'll have actual fetuses on your team.

Due to this soloQ ranked ONLY works if you have <50% winrate.
Otherwise you'll get fetuses on your team every time.

Imagine being so bad at the game the game sees you as an adequate punishment for players who are good.

[pseudo latch]

What patch you playin on? Tazer hasnt been good in months now. Mesh is still high as hell. C4 has been trash since it got gutted in season 2 and I will stand by that.

Also im no casual darling, season 2 diamond. Its also my personal opinion, so politely shove it.

[quick coyote]

seams dope!

[midnight bison]

i don't think i'm going to endure 99 days of this crap, no one is having fun playing ranked TA, it's the most unbalanced trash i've ever seen

[prime wing]

c4 and thermal being a must have is a take

[vocal cave]

diamond was still inflated af in s2 tho, also c4 is and was still good

[tribal vortex]

Ranked Terminal Attack really sucks now. Just tried it and it was awful

[deft vine]

i was trying to show some friends the new mode. So we played a round of (unranked) TA
Won the first round, 2 people on other team instantly left. Won next rounds 5v3.. and then in round 4 everyone else left. So we had spent the 3 minutes running around the map by ourselves waiting for time to run out so we'd get credit.
great impression

[quick coyote]

nerf rpg to about 80-100 damage, so it's not instant death but still powerful and more only useful against lights who can already dodge rpg pretty easily.

Make charge and slam take longer to start doing damage so you can't activate actually point blank, and make the slam parts damage or aoe effect based on how high you jump from, thus slamming from the ground jumping doing less than slamming off a roof, also allows for more team play with the jump pad.

Take the damage up on the m60 up 1 point to an even 20, keep the recoil changes.
Bring lewis gun damage up a point to 23 and keep the recoil pattern to see how well that does.

Dome shield is fine as is, it isn't overly tanky, can be hit from anywhere even through floors making it easy to bring down, and has a direct counter in the form of glitch grenades and aps.

Speaking of, with all the increases to gadget count namelt grenades. Increase number of shots the aps blocks to 5 and see how that feels.

[grim patrol]

Nerf rpg to about 80-100 damage, so it's not instant death but still powerful and more only useful against lights who can already dodge rpg pretty easily.

Make charge and slam take longer to start doing damage so you can't activate actually point blank, and make the slam parts damage or aoe effect based on how high you jump from, thus slamming from the ground jumping doing less than slamming off a roof, also allows for more team play with the jump pad.

Take the damage up on the m60 up 1 point to an even 20, keep the recoil changes.
Bring lewis gun damage up a point to 23 and keep the recoil pattern to see how well that does.

Dome shield is fine as is, it isn't overly tanky, can be hit from anywhere even through floors making it easy to bring down, and has a direct counter in the form of glitch grenades and aps.

Speaking of, with all the increases to gadget count namelt grenades. Increase number of shots the aps blocks to 5 and see how that feels.

[smoky belfry]

Your telling me the devs nerfed cloak because they said they’re technology was showing it was overpowered even though it’s fine but that same technology they decided that LH1 needs a buff?? These devs clearly have no clue what they are doing

[hardy bridge]

Make the bow deal 2x headshot damage but lower the firing speed

[misty swift]

JUST FUCKING TURN OFF THE CHEERING NOISE OF THE BLOODY FUCKING CROUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH LORD NO

[dark dune]

Make it so new players don't have to play 5 games of Terminal Attack before they play quick play. It should be Quick Cash, obviously. TA is very alienating.

[rose nacelle]

^ Seconded

[feral mirage]

Rather have that be optional cause I like it

Also remove TA

[solemn elbow]

Is it possible to have a music selection? Really miss the open beta ost.

[rain epoch]

Entire lobbies are LH1 and throwing knives now, do you see a problem?

[lime lichen]

yeah, the devs

[upbeat ore]

The LH1 has trouble registering close up shots, cause I hit a medium point blank like 5 times and none registered. It was almost like the gun was going through their body so the bullets were going past them

[proven ibex]

Whoever passed LH1 testing must be sacked. Don't you guys have a testing team? For every patch and update why do you guys depend on playerbase for testing and turn your loyal players into haters?? This season sucks big time (except Kyoto).

worldTour not having SSMB, it's just casual pro Max. Forcing newbies to play TA and we're ending up with Noobs or players getting disconnected from lobbies. TA ranked system sucks big time. If your team sucks it's just waste of time playing all the levels and if you win, you'll be given very less points. And if you lose bcoz of your team, you'll be punished hard. This whole season is big mess up

[keen heath]

The KS buff was nice I can feel the ability to fight alittle better but still feels like my shots are not landing even if I’m aiming at them maybe make the projectile speed of the KS slug faster?

[quick coyote]

^^^^^^^^^

[acoustic coyote]

Add to the shop a brows all items button. So you can see everything that you can buy

[fervent shore]

There are two things I want to say:

• The game is fantastic.
• REMOVE TA in rankeds.

[somber axle]

If the game arent going to remove the TA ranked, at least switch the Cashout to ranked leagues and TA to ranked badges

[crisp oxide]

TERMINAL ATTACK IS TRASH

[icy monolith]

yeah lets add recon back in the form of a grenade. yeah this season is dogshit

[cyan flume]

NERF THE FREACKING LH1, I BEG YOU EMBARK

[stark notch]

so they remove ranked cashout and replace it with dogshit terminal attack, and twitch rivals is using cashout instead of the new 'rank' mode lmfao

[young smelt]

End the boost on Kyoto. Everyone has seen the map and we want to play all of them equally now. I waited to comment on TA until I played it but 1. It sucks, 2. It’s not the finals. LH1 is incredibly unfun. Sonar grenades need a slight nerf but they are honestly in a decent spot rn.

[wispy latch]

The finals full of light classes fking cancer game

[grim patrol]

For cashout either in general or for ranked. Make spawns closer to an uncontested cashout to discourage 3rd partying and decrease downtime. And when you wipe a team they lose 30% of their money as they do but you gain like 10-15% of what they lost, increasing the benefits of pvp a little more.

Maybe make cashout a "drain" like how most people say that at 25-50-75% complete you earn a portion, make it tick down over the cashout timer, and make timer extend when stealing last second and add a bonus for completing the cashout, making stealing a cashout worth it, whether it's the old system or a drain type system it encourages taking even a finished cashout, and makes it a strategic choice of completing the cashout for a better lead or letting another team take it to not risk a wipe.

ALSO, IF POSSIBLE PLEASE USE WORLD TOUR TO ACTUALLY TRY TO FIX CASHOUT BY TRYING RADICAL CHANGES TO SEE HOW THEY FEEL. AND ADD POLLS AND OR BUILT IN FEEDBACK OPTIONS FOR SUCH THINGS.

Sorry for all caps but that part feels most important as a change as it would allow easier and more responsive feedback, like after a new world tour starts with new changes, you can poll the community directly
"Does the new recoil feel good"
"Was the damage buff justifiable"
"Should we increase the health of this deployable"
Type stuff. It'd give you more tangible data and insight into the state of the game outside of raw numbers.
Also a built in easily accessible feedback system would give more players the ability to leave feedback and thoughts as they occur, not everyone is in the discord, and not everyone remembers all their thoughts and ideas to send in later after several games.

[mystic delta]

Please update RS progression! If you win a flawless game, why do you gain little to no points. If I lose a game, I end up losing 2/3 games worth of wins in one lose. Since the new season has started I haven’t progressed at all

[rough herald]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crying-meme-gif-22168515
the game is fun bro, and if the game mode isn't fun, why play it?
game are suppose to be fun anyways so are you having fun playing game?

[proven ibex]

That's what fogging my mind, they're pushing new players to play TA and made TA main ranked and behaving like TA is what representing the game now. But afraid to show it in Twitch Rivals???? Going with Cashout which they killed to the oblivion?? Man, they all must be high in meeting rooms while coming up with S3. They're so confused and making their players lose their minds and go mad.

[mild ruin]

add buldozer that controls like crane please 🥺

[prime wing]

funny, this is what the twitch rivals chat is going to look like lmao

[void blade]

(I struggled to read this correctly so i may have fucked the response but we have to play ranked despite not wanting to,) BECAUSE THERES A RUBY SKIN FOR THE FUCKING AK RAHHH

[feral mirage]

Ranked Terminal was the worst decision I've ever seen in a game

[somber hound]

Bring back Ranked Cashout asap

[violet elbow]

Make Light Take skill again.

Nerf spam weapons like the TKs, the Bow, and the LH1, people shouldnt be running this class and just throwing shit in an enemy's general direction, we have heavy for that already

[sacred cypress]

Fun Take: take the audio team for deciding on patches, nerfs/buffs. Their Work on the OST has been a banger throughout all seasons. these guys know what they're doing

However i love the finals, its a fun game with a nice twist compared to other FPS Games. (I really dont like FPS Games in general tho) But Finals is just different and ill keep playing

Also, best of 13 for TA Ranked is just too long i enjoy that mode in a weird way but having to play hours for a placement is kinda odd to me and really holds me back in playing it. I liked it how short it was in S2.

[quick coyote]

Real

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[stuck forum]

I’ve encountered the infinite loading screen glitch probably 20-30 times today. What the hell is going on with the servers, Embark?

[crisp oxide]

GET RID OF TRIP LIGHT THROWING KNIVES WTF WERE U THINKING? GET UR SHIOT TOGETHER STOP RUINING AN AMAZING GAME W THESE DUMBASS CHANGES U FINALY FIXED VERYTRHING W RECONAND NUKES WHY DID U DO THIS ALSO TA RANKED WAS HORRIBLE. PUT BACK CASHOUT RANKED WORLD TOUR U GOOF BALLS

[lime lichen]

Ranked cash out should return but with role locks, for example you must have one of each class no more hhm or mmh meta and respawn tokens shouldn't carry over to the next round so 2 tokens every round max, no more going into the last round with 6+ tokens

[vestal basin]

I want one day without any bug in game in my life

[river hill]

You know it's BAD when the community still disapproves the update

[wheat frigate]

Steam player count ALL TIME low 11,900 players…. Congratulations Embark you ruined an amazing game that was just waiting for proper balance and content to thrive. Chasing trends RARELY EVER WORKS….. RIP FINALS

[astral thistle]

Or people leaving

[midnight bison]

they are trying so hard to be counter strike, but literally no one is having fun with the ranked TA game mode, it's depressing
you cant hear invisible lights getting closer
there are only lights and LH1s + sonar
the elo/mmr system as always is not fair on the matchmaking
the servers are worse than ever making shots do not register
people keep leaving the world tour matches

[outer tundra]

In no world should throwing knifes be able to 2-3 shot a full hp heavy

[rough herald]

Light is not under power

DO NOT BUFF LIGHT!! i can still rick shit form every so often, other wise we will have the same heavy vs light problem but its light vs medium this time
just nerf the problem child aka heavy weapon dude and we're golden

and if you want to buff light all you have to do is revert some changes

[spare sluice]

Embark Studios PLEEEEEEASE fix the optimization in Kyoto! I've seen multiple people complain about this so I know I'm not alone on this. I keep getting frame drops from 100s to the 50s 30s and even 20s. Sometimes I'll just freeze and crash all together. Now everytime. I load up in Kyoto, I get weary thinking I'm not even gonna finish my match, especially when I'm doing good.

[somber hound]

bring back Cashout Ranked... why we cant just have both

[autumn sedge]

tbh if a light manages to land all three shots perfectly on a heavy that doesn't block or is able to hit the light, then it's probably just a skill issue on the heavy

also, they always could that, even before the buff.

[quick coyote]

buff lmgs

Nerf rpg, CnS, and sonar

[stoic cosmos]

The solution was to fix Cashout for the reasons it didn't attract much players

Cashout Overhaul
For every second your team has the cashout they earn $80 for a total amount of $10,400 (130 seconds)
so your team will be rewarded for every second and not just by the last second.

Winning the cashout results in additional $4,600
So there should still be an incentive to steal at the last second.

For a total amount of $15K per cashbox/cashout.
And this does not include money for killing/openning cashboxes/starting cashouts.

In result: This will disencourage third partying and just stealing on the last second, will encourage players placing vaults in cashouts, will incorporate much more cashout steals (under the nose) and will ensure much more satisfying and intriguing gameplay.

[haughty niche]

nerf lh1 damage or firerate . NERF charge n slam . Give sword gadget swapping

[night mulch]

ples remove TA from ranked we want OG vibes back

[vague tide]

just step to the side

[vagrant raptor]

the majority of the playerbase plays quick play game modes. move ranked and world tour to the right side so when we click play on console quick play is auto selected to we don’t need to move over to the quick play tab.

also fix the spear and dual swords, left trigger stuff doesnt work all the time.

[delicate yoke]

Give us some nice world tour skins. It'd make playing tournaments that extra bit more rewarding.

[wispy latch]

They are trying to destroy the whole game, balance is completely trash. Look at the beta and look now what’s going on. Light class is the absolutely meta in this game I mean kick the medium class out after the heavy lol and we all play just light

[rigid breach]

this is impossible to play, please fix lh1, per 100 meters it does more damage than a sniper rifle, even throwing knives are not so annoying anymore

[cursive warren]

No, throwing knives are definitely more annoying, due to the fact its no skill to them anymore, you keep spam clicking till 4 knives hit the target and boom, a free kill ntm the fact the strafe movement speed with them help add to the stress of killing’em

[opal swallow]

Charge and Slam still that strong? xD

[slow sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[dull elm]

Please please please remove that new players have to play 5 ta matches

Just imagine new players downloading the game bc they saw twitch rivals and they'll just be forced to play a completely different and less unique gamemode

[surreal kestrel]

Didn't they say you would earn/lose points based in your Opponents Ranked score? so if you're facing a very high RS team you shouldn't lose too many points, heck even if you performed and gave a good fight you should at least earn a few points, right now the game is forcing you to win matches to get a few points (sometimes as low as 400rs per match)

Look at this screenshots, 70k ranked score team Vs 130k Ranked score team, we obviously lost but yet I'm the 2nd in kills and combat score in the match but the system doesn't care about any of that and I'll still lose almost 600 rs even if I faced a team double my team's Rs not to mention most of them are between 25 to 27k Rs.

If this is the competitive system they wanted, people will soon get tired of these balance issues and the current meta, you can't sit every night and say you'll win 4 out of 5 matches you'll play because we know it rarely happens, the system is bad, it doesn't care in your performance or how unfair the matchmaking was it only cares if you win or lose.

I'll also put a few screenshots of how unfair the matchmaking can be

[ocean wasp]

When you reach the platinum rank, you may lose points even if your team wins.

[coral burrow]

so many kicks/disconnects/laggs
FIX THE DAMN GAME

[odd flax]

FUCK. ENEMY TEAM LEAVE, AND I GOT PENALTY??? WTF it's first round..... DAMN, THE SERVER KEEP KICKING ME OUT TWICE

[stray furnace]

Fix the bug where it says that i got disconnected due to the disallowed tool or smth it's actually so annoying

[agile jacinth]

Anyone else get bad frames on Kyoto compared to other maps?

[nocturne fern]

REMOVE THE SNIPER NOT EVERY GAME NEEDS ONE

[wary crescent]

As a somewhat veteran player of the finals with 337 hours on the game, I would like to say that I am genuinely disappointed that the game is in its current state. The thing that drew me to the finals was the action packed gameplay of constant mayhem and fun. Terminal attack is the WORST thing that has happened to the finals ranked. Your game is simply not made for terminal attack. One of the main things that work for games like CSGO and valorant is taht there are clear lanes where players can go. The finals simply does not have this. Dying to a random sniper light half way across the map, and having to sit there and twiddle my thumbs is one of the worst things one can experience in the finals. Forcing players to play terminal attack for the ONLY ranked game is a slap in the face for all veteran players and MUST be changed as soon as possible. I would suggest at least making an extra ranked system where you can either play terminal attack or normal cashout, which is your core game is it not? Please come up with some solution.

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[upbeat urchin]

I'm sorry but Terminal attack is so unengaging compared to cashout, i have more fun playing world tour than ranked. Too bad there's no incentive to win in world tour, it's just about grinding the game that's all. If you wanted to make changes to the cashout mode you had the whole s2 to make trials and errors. Terminal attack is such a slow gameplay, where you should have gone all out on the fun part of the game. It's like I am watching the Halo franchise die a second time haha

[cunning junco]

DEAR GOD

[honest harness]

Imo its pretty balanced right now. Not perfekt but good enough.

[maiden sluice]

It's never been more unbalanced 😅

[obtuse locust]

No lh1 broken af invis idk if it's just me but i almost don't hear it anymore just rarely but else its fine just lh1 is broken

[rough herald]

thats an illusion of match making
good light are make to fight bad heavy

(also i only play cashout so the light op thing i just don't understand)

[cursive warren]

Weapon/Gadget Change Feedback:

Throwing Knives
• The damage + the throwing speed + movement strafe speed makes this weapon a very powerful tool that honestly has no risk/reward factor anymore & no skill ceiling.
I suggest either the damage or throwing speed of this weapon need to be tweaked lower.

LH1
• This weapon needs to have either a revert to its previous patch damage number or a decrease in damage from its previous patch damage number.
This weapon only needed to be tweaked via it’s visual recoil problem it had, the damage increase was uncalled for.

Grapple Hook
• This Gadget needs to have a range/hitbox collision change with the addition of letting the enemy (being grabbed) be allowed to shoot while being grappled & a cooldown increase.
The range extends too far which leads to ridiculous grabs and since the hitbox of it is so janky, it leads to an opposing enemy getting grabbed through objects.

Bow
• Now this weapon here isn’t as major of a problem but it very well could be if left at its current state, the problem with this weapon is the damage via pull back, it’s not very strict in terms of damage scaling when the bow is halfway drawn vs max, it does good damage regardless & i dont think that’s fair.
I say tweak it’s damage numbers via how far they pulled back more strictly, and to counteract the potential uselessness comments after, make sure you increase the draw speed but not by a huge amount, just enough to where its smooth/a little faster in any engagement distance.

93R
- Revert all season 3 nerfs back to how it was via mid to late season 2, this weapon never needed any nerf, it was pretty balanced.

[autumn shale]

TA is actually ran by lights abusing the sniper. Makes the game terribly unfun to play @quartz cedar good take but snipers need an update aswell @crystal umbra please lay off the crack 🙏 Lights are CRAZY broken

[misty swift]

Devs won't do shit.

[astral thistle]

sniper? more like LH1

[crystal umbra]

The light class needed to be buffed.

It's the most fun class to play and has the most skill expression.

YET

It was the least popular class amongst the top performing contestants last season.

New players are probably going to wanna play the light class more than the heavy and this will be the gateway drug for another percentage of the newcomers and returning gamers.

[dapper lark]

Hey hey im just playing the finals and streaming on my Twitch sooo😅 is there a Chance to get a minimap in the Game ui just to See your teammembers and better Check on the map whats really hard for First time Players

[hollow iron]

Have you played TA ranked at all? Lights essentially dictate if a team wins or loses lmao

[lilac coral]

I have being playing light since S3 dropped something feels off with medium

[half owl]

New player MUST play TA 5 rounds? WHAT HAPPENING EMBARK!!! PLS....
They are leaving before they get to have fun.

[smoky belfry]

To all the devs that were involved with buffing the LH1 I hope y’all get fired

[digital sinew]

For people who are complaining about the sniper rifle they need to work on their positioning
And I think the game is in a great stage because a change is needed
yes there is some fuckups here and there but the game is fun
A lot of players here acting as such crybabies, Try to have fun and don't take it too seriously

[high wing]

Well season 3 is a huge failure. It's lacking the most fundemental changes this game needs.

• No updated servers or improved netcode, meaning desync/delay is still there which can be up to 1 second if not more
• No improvements to hit-registration, meaning sometimes your shots/hit just does nothing
• Game did not receive any improved optimization, meaning it still runs like shit even if everything is on low
• No fix for crash to desktop
• No fix for PC crashing
• No fix for unable to do any action like using a zipline or attacking
• No fix for the parkour which still is unreliable and buggy
• Still not banning cheaters permanently
• No fix for the respawn system which in most cases gives advantage to respawning team
• Store credits still doesnt show real value of the price in euro or you local currency
• No more in-depth profiles with match history and stats
• Still can't see other players steam profile
• No specific keybindings for each class and loadout
• No setting for default skins in equipment menu
• No more slots of loadouts
• No fix for sword/melee abusers, can still sword attack and quick attack, and emote/gadget switching for infinite dmg
• No UI for ping/latency
• Not removing aim assist from PC lobbies
• No improvement on visible stats/numbers on weapons and gadgets
• And lets not dive in to the balancing, its been shit all the time.

[proven ibex]

💯💯💯

[vestal basin]

Buy vangaurd from RIOT

[slender nexus]

I'm playing everyday for 2-3hours...and played Kyoto only 2 times -_- PLEASE make play mode with new map only when you releasing new map

[autumn shale]

vanguard is a tiny bit invasive but people who dont want it installed on their pc are scared its gonna see the 3 tb of cp on they computer

[dull hemlock]

Fix the bugginess of this game. Lord. It's just getting worse. Do a patch focused on game health. Already said more before: #👂┇game-feedback message

[silent palm]

Vanguard sucks for developers though (don't know if it's valorant or vanguard), but you can have virtualisation on your computer, so you will not be able to use docker

[delicate basin]

world tour?

[fickle linden]

-feedback

[spiral light]

Feedback channel FAQ

⭐ What is this channel for?
Constructive feedback (positive and negative) and suggestions about the game.
⭐ What is not meant for this channel?
Bug reports (see #1201841543926005810), cheater reports (please make them in-game or send them to support). Spam, toxicity and messages intended to troll/bait will be removed.
⭐ Do devs read this channel?
Yes, the channel is read and tracked. However, the dev team will rarely react or respond directly.
⭐ Should I ping anyone to leave feedback?
No, just drop it here. We can handle it! Please also avoid pinging Embarkers (blue roles) - it will not get your feedback to them faster.

[sweet isle]

I hope you have a bad day today

[broken geyser]

EMBARK Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode. WE NEED THIS IN THE FINALS.

[stark notch]

I dont see how light needs any more buffs. theyre infested in terminal attack with lh1 and sonar nades...dash spamming everywhere lol

medium and heavies gets nerfed all the time. heavies have no more range now, so its a cringe hook into shotgun/melee instant combos. no one wants that overwatch shit

[river hill]

Please add twerk emote, it's the only solution to saving the Finals.

[languid dirge]

Hey! I played a lot of games over the past few days using exclusively the new weapons on each class, and in the odd chance this gets read by someone from Embark, I'll put my personal thoughts and feelings on each here.

Dual Blades
This was easily the most fun new weapon to use for me. I was running this with the healing beam and defibs for support, using the block to keep myself alive longer and dish some damage back at attackers. I coupled this with the zip line to make some aggresive plays by deflecting while ziplining in which felt so good when it worked (got a really sick clip on day 1).

The one thing that feels off about the dual blades and is holding them back from me considering them to be great weapons worth considering over other weapons is the inconsistant deflect. The deflect just doesn't always send the bullets back at the attack even with proper aim. While I understand that this is to theoretically prevent them from becomming too dominant, I believe the fact that still taking chip damage while blocking makes it not too rewarding. I propose keeping the chip damage, but reducing the spread on deflected bullets. This would allow for more decision making on both players (in a hypothetical 1 vs 1) such as encouraging the shooter to stop shooting the dual blades to prevent more deflects and opting to use something else to get through the defence like gadgets or barrels.

[smoky belfry]

Sign a petition to have the devs involved with LH1 buff fired

[cunning junco]

As a somewhat veteran player of the finals with 337 hours on the game, I would like to say that I am genuinely disappointed that the game is in its current state. The thing that drew me to the finals was the action packed gameplay of constant mayhem and fun. Terminal attack is the WORST thing that has happened to the finals ranked. Your game is simply not made for terminal attack. One of the main things that work for games like CSGO and valorant is taht there are clear lanes where players can go. The finals simply does not have this. Dying to a random sniper light half way across the map, and having to sit there and twiddle my thumbs is one of the worst things one can experience in the finals. Forcing players to play terminal attack for the ONLY ranked game is a slap in the face for all veteran players and MUST be changed as soon as possible. I would suggest at least making an extra ranked system where you can either play terminal attack or normal cashout, which is your core game is it not? Please come up with some solution.

[maiden sluice]

😂

[dim tartan]

🤡

[trim ginkgo]

Why is it whenever I go to Kyoto I lag like hell. I could go to any other map then I'm fine but I go to Kyoto big lag spikes out of no where

[versed bridge]

Remove the low gravity modifier - it turns melee builds into sitting ducks

[somber mason]

Pro tip dont press space and go under heavy and destroy his ass with blades

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[remote loom]

the stun gun shouldn't disable your specialization but instead disable your gadgets,

and the lh1 needs lower damage and a higher mag size

[violet elbow]

it should disable BOTH :)

Stuns whole point is to counter shit like Charge and mesh, it does that again, which is good.

[somber hound]

We want a Statement to Cashout Ranked

[fathom niche]

Anyway

Change the following

Decrease inbetween round prep time to 10 seconds - it’s boring guys, wake up to yourself whomever suggested 20+ seconds of prep time. Fool.

Let us THROW THE BOX IN THE STATION - taking it away is crazy stupid, you turned what was a tactical search and destroy game, into team death match. Not being able to quickly deposit the box is devastating.

And finally, punishing the players who STAY in a game of terminal attack by ending it, is ridiculous.
Add the option to vote, whether or not to end the game, or just turn it into a casual game.
Dont waste 2 minutes of my time.

[barren coral]

S2 had decent performance while this season has a lot of lag spikes and freezing hopefully it gets sorted out soon

[languid dirge]

Spear
I also very much enjoyed the spear, I ran it with winch-claw to pull enemies in coupled with the extra melee reach to make it near impossible to escape. I won't spend as much time talking about the spear, but I do quite like how the thrust motion on the primary fire does require a decent amount of aim, it feels very rewarding to land the three-hit combo of primary fire.

What doesn't feel rewarding, is the secondary fire. I'll be blunt, it feels completely useless. While the slightly faster TTK and (supposed) larger AOE hitboxes sounds nice on paper, being locked into the entire animation and having your movement speed slow to a crawl is far too risky to ever outweigh the reward. The left click is just far more consistent.

Recurve bow
I don't need to spend long on this, I really like this weapon and think it's in a really good spot. It couples well with every light specilization, and rewards skillful play without being oppressive. Only thing I would change isn't even a balance thing, but the animation of someone running with a drawn bow ends up having their arm awkwardly be positioned above their model and sometimes clips behind their head.

[mild pond]

ADD MORE CONTROLLER BIND CUSTOMISATION

Playing with a controller puts you at a serious disadvantage when it comes to choosing your binds, so why aren’t we able to customise them accordingly? Here are 3 easily implementable solutions that will increase controller player capabilities by tenfold

DOUBLE TAP: activates when the button is pressed twice in rapid succession

TRIPLE TAP: same as above but 3

HOLD: activates after button is held down for ~0.5 seconds

Think of how much more stuff we’ll be able to make use of just from these simple additions; I could set emote / voice line to HOLD TRIANGLE / Y and it won’t ever interfere with equipping my weapon; I could have Gadget 1 on DOUBLE TAP R1 / RB and Gadget 2 on TRIPLE TAP without ever worrying about them overlapping. PLEASE HELP US OUT (and increase max sens, look boost settings suck)

[gaunt perch]

WHY ARE DUAL BLADES JUST BETTER THAN RIOT SHIELD IN EVERY WAY?

• Blocks everything in your view, including your arms and feet, whereas Riot Shield is very vulnerable where your feet are always exposed and arms are nearly always exposed
• Blocks melee damage
• Attacks faster and deals much greater damage per second
• No movement speed penalty
• Doesn't obstruct your view when blocking
• It's not very obvious that you're blocking, which can fool people into shooting you
• Reflects all ranged damage back at attacker
• NEED I SAY MORE?

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD UP TO PAR WITH DUAL BLADES:

• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can and do easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it. Not to mention bullets seem to go through all the time somehow, the player-model hitbox seems to constantly clipping through the shield.
• While blocking and attacking, movement speed should be the same as walking
• Blocking melee attacks could inflict a knockback/stun, and reduce melee damage significantly. Riot Shield is currently hard countered by all other melee weapons.
• Increase melee range or attack speed slightly OR reduce wind-up duration when swinging the baton.
• Remove the turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it much much harder to look around, especially with such a narrow viewing window.

RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, sometimes the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.

ABOVE ALL ELSE
Riot Shield should at the very least do one thing reliably, and that is BLOCK damage. Nerf the rest of it I don't really care as long as I can use it to survive. BLOCKING is the Riot Shield's core feature and it should be the best weapon in the game to do that.

[quick coyote]

TA is boring

[mild ruin]

i think no one, even devs do not read this channel

[tough sapphire]

Honestly I dont understand what the devs have been doing. They knew before S3 that people where against TA ranked replacing Cashout ranked (Im not against TA ranked being its own thing). They still havent comprehended that nerfing a weapon does not bring balance instead they should buff any weapon that isnt currently used in competive games. They made an update to the game that brought a very large map with empty places(but i think the map is great even tho it has its flaws) and they gave us melee weapons (im not against the weapons at all but the spear right click just doesnt work and when it works its just useless...). now next Thursday we will have an update that will only bring buffs to weapons and gadgets thus bringing all players back to the same weapons and/or gadgets. TA might be a funny mode sometimes but the maps are clearly not made for this (lights with snipers or LH1 or bow can just rush the attackers spawn and the attackers cant do anything to counter + 5 medium with 5 turrets is just 10v5). They gave us skins to weapons that already have lots of skins. I think we can all agree its funnier and more attractive to buy skin like the ominous osthyvel or the freaking CDs for TK or the ray gun, the return to sender set, the lost marbles set etc... The new level unlocked are just bringing old skins model but with either a new colors or patern. They bring new skins with the BP that are clipped into each other ( I mean plz Embark did you really not see that the Mizty spirit or any pets is clipping into the sashimi shirt, the kosode, the engimo cloaked, the valor shift garb and probably yhe Tosei Gusoku) + Hair are still clipping into both new and old style items. All that said, I still enjoy playing the finals (not so much TA but its fine). If you need longer time between season to really bring us a finished product just take your time. Be honest and open with the core community of this game that WILL stay longer than new players. (Add more sponsors skins pls)

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

• Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam

[dull elm]

#⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[daring ravine]

Please add full keyboard and mouse support to consoles. We are no longer playing console only pools for matchmaking there is no reason us console players should not have access to mouse and keyboard

[coral burrow]

a serious seasonal balancing patch is necessary, some weapons are overly powering the batterfield while others are lacking

[delicate basin]

Anyone else think melee v melee fights are awful?

[misty swift]

Hahahahhahahahahahahahaha

[olive adder]

Please embark add again ranked cashout, feel very bad playing with noobs and people that get afk or disconnect, me and my friends will quit if you don´t add again ranked cashout, im very sad i love this game but this make no sense at all, TA is more static gameplay, don´t make sense at all

[stark notch]

updates happens on wednesdays, but since twitch rivals is on tuesday I bet theyre scared to balance change anything. we'll see though

[echo viper]

Revert tk projectile speed and drag back down to what it was for most of s2, I’m sick of it being this low skill spam weapon instead of the high skill projectile weapon it was for most of the game’s lifespan.
Also revert cloak’s activation cost to what it was before the nerf.

[grave dew]

seriously nerf light, heavys 2 lmgs are useless now and lights weapons are all almost insanely op

[still portal]

All those new twitch viewers going to see a cashout tournament and then going to download the game and be forced to play TA 💀💀💀💀

[violet elbow]

@pearl kiln Light weapon lethality buffs are generally a bad idea.

The TKs are way too spamable now because of how easy they are to use, to the point where most of Light's skill expression is gone when using them against another light.

the Lh1 kills way too fast and has no recoil with near infinite range, this weapon shouldve been nerfed a long time ago, not buffed.

the Bow needs more bullet drop and a velocity nerf on partial draws, but it should honestly have a 2x headshot multiplier on a fully drawn shot to allow for a 1 shot + quick melee kill against Mediums.

Light this season so far has just been about spamming dash + single shot weapons, and bow/TKs are now just significantly less skill intense versions of the SH1900 and SR-84.

I really hope we can get some justified tuning on these weapons and we can return to a more healthy light skill gap that respects the classes identity as a flanker without good chances of winning direct TTK trades against mediums and Heavies!

also I agree with Dwayneee, please do something about Cloak that justifies using it again, its near useless outside terminal Attack now where its also only used due to the SR/LH1 Long range meta

[golden otter]

Light don’t need a nerf. Ranked mode needs to be class locked so H M L for Cashout and L L M M H for example for TA. I see that the LH1 buff was unnecessary it was good as it was before . I hope they bring back the old version and they don’t nerf it to death

[haughty niche]

nerf lh1 damage or firerate . NERF charge n slam . Give sword gadget swapping

[rough herald]

goo berral keep bouncing around bro

[wispy latch]

Wtf 🤣🤣🤣light don’t need a nerf you amazing

[somber hound]

who ever had the idea to add TA for the current The Finals Maps should be fired....

[sand jolt]

Adjustments for LH1

• Lower the fire rate of Lh1, not damage
• Add slightly more recoil

This should reward precision more rather than the spam fest it is right now with that gun, people can use a long range weapon as a shotgun right now lol. It's a bit too versatile

[vapid pine]

BRING
BACK
RANKED
CASHOUT

[pure forum]

Lh1.. Knife thrower.. Bow.. Spear.. It just doesn't make fun... What's wrong with you.. You had a good game..

[tawny karma]

fix the load screen

[brave quarry]

i’m a main light from Open Beta and your completely wrong.
Light CLEARLY need a hard nerf (throwing knifes, dagger, LH1 in first).

[misty swift]

I WENT FROM 27000 RS TO 7400 RS BECAUSE OF THIS ALGORITHM BASED MATCHED MAKING. I SLAPPED MYSELF SO MUCH THAT ONE SIDE OF MY FACE IS DONE FOR.

[open wharf]

Day 1 to the old competitive

[dry wraith]

I hope that tomorrow they will clarify the situation regarding negative feedback

[radiant sedge]

Medium double sword are so broken, it's unplayable against this on ta, and lh1 and knife thrower, the game is on his worst moment right now.
Shame on u developers

[stark notch]

🤣🤣🤣 I've been playing since cb1 with about 1k hours and this season has made me stop playing until they fix their shit. It's sad

[somber hound]

listen to the Community pls

[pure forum]

Really... Just nerf that shit.. I don't play it anymore... The game is so broken.. Just congratulations... Over 500h from season 2 to season 3 one on the other it's broken.. God damn... Even winning and having much kills..

[bleak oxide]

🤝 lets bring back snukes in terminal attack for a few patches just for a laugh

[glacial condor]

Fix the lh1 it’s so unbalanced

[rose siren]

Fix lh1 PLS. I cant do anything!!!

[buoyant shale]

Nerf LH1!!!!!!

[mossy otter]

Lights need a nerf in the current status

[noble gust]

NO

[bold silo]

Nice buff to LH1, now buff all other stuff as well as sniper, bow and classes will be balanced.

[dusk matrix]

ye

[dusty plume]

Pleeeeease give kyoto the same odds of being played as the other 2 maps in world tour, the navigation on this map is a headache and destruction is bugged. The wooden houses self destruct after 1 piece gets blown up and turn into server lag generators.

[fair bobcat]

LH1 is probably too OP rn

[lavish shard]

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf Rpg claw
Reduce recoil lewis
Light need survivality not damage buff

[quick kayak]

Bola range is too long. Reduce it from 18m to 14m . It’s also too long of a distance to be stun locked with essentially no way to escape

[gritty sedge]

day 1 of asking for mnk on console🔥

[broken geyser]

I couldn't agree more, the finals really need to consider this to improve the quality of life of controller playerw

[golden otter]

@brave quarry
Im a light main too. Have you played last season light in ranked? I guess no, otherwise you wouldn’t want a HARD nerf for light. A little nerf to a few weapons would be ok. The buff to the lh1 was insanely stupid I agree now every nobrainer can run this think. I really hope they bring it back as in s2. You needed skill to use it and it was perfectly fine.

Throwing knife’s perhaps a little nerf and lh1 back to the season 2 version.

The problem is to balance two different modes that are so different.
I still believe the best would be for both modes to be a preset of classes so MHL for cashout and LLMMH for TA

[distant kiln]

Light need nerf fast, too toxic

[rough herald]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crying-meme-gif-22168515
oh no light is being too toxic, pls nerf them

[feral mirage]

Fr if they're silent about TA Ranked tomorrow something must've seriously gone wrong in the management chain

[languid sonnet]

I am now filling in the feedback survery but I personally dislike the terminal attack mode as the ranked game mode but I can't put that as an option on the second question, there are only answers which indicate why you like the terminal attack game mode but I don't like it.

[flint jungle]

very good joke. We must play in ranked shit TA is boring and youtuber go play cashout! xD

[proven ibex]

If they don't take any major action on Ranked ,. consider this game's gone for good

[bold silo]

you all played mid and heavy as light was dog shit and you destroyed it easy, now when it is close to be good you are crying lol

[quick coyote]

Victory for new players !!!

[bitter juniper]

old ranked

[vast obsidian]

Very humorous, the terminal ranks 5 dwarfs, the foundation of s2 is gradually improved, s3 directly abandons its own characteristics to do the blasting mode, my suggestion is to delete the medium and heavy to keep the dwarfs to do your blasting mode Hahahahahahahahaha, s3's new bag can only be purchased with money, not with the game currency too ridiculous, Is the new season only new players are new?

[still portal]

Showcasing cash out on twitch when you made TA ranked, smh

[desert lantern]

Bring back ranked cash out please TA is not as fun

[versed hazel]

has anyone been running into a bug where the cashout teleports across the map? Just had an instance where it actually teleported underneath the map and no one could steal it and if I'm remembering correctly, I've had cashouts randomly teleport across the map about 3 times since this latest patch (seems to be caused by some sort of interaction with the anti-gravity cube and the cashout station but im not entirely sure if it's just coincidence)

[lament mango]

half hourly reminder to bring back ranked cashout/world tour and get rid of ranked terminal illness

[quick coyote]

please make an api 🙏

[pure forum]

After 500h of finals.. Nerf that light shit.. I will stop till it is fixed.. To now nothing stopped me playing this.. But you can't play it solo anymore.. If I got 1 or 2 or 3 teammates it's playable but not solo.. And I play most of the time solo..

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[lament talon]

I just want a killcam and replay mode because it feels like high ranked there are a lot of wall hackers that can sniff you out without audio

[granite frost]

Kyoto is a nice map think some of yall might be directionally challenged

[wise cliff]

They took out the requirement of playing TA before unlocking the other modes so we're on the right path again

[gloomy cave]

Agreed lol

[lavish shard]

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf stungun
Nerf Rpg claw
Reduce recoil lewis
Buff time deployement turret no in ranked
Light need survivality not damage buff

[alpine turret]

guys do they actually listen to feedback here

[dusty plume]

yes but only after implementing something stupid noone asked for

[pulsar jay]

ye they just havent been very responsive given the rough season launch, assuming we'll get some sort of statement with weekly patch for the ta thing

if they ignore it when that drops maybe its time to really start doomsaying lol

[stoic cosmos]

How to save TA

• Gadgets should recharge but at a slower rate
• Full HP regen
• Ability to revive manually/defib
• Ability to heal - gun will overheat faster
• Class limit to two
• Best out of 5 rounds

That way, we can bring gadgets recharge, defib, revive, heal, no class overuse, and faster matches back into a more balanced fun play.

[reef jasper]

thank you for giving light a good place in the game 🙂

[rough herald]

okie

[cobalt coyote]

I was born with an obscenely bad sense of direction 😭

[high lynx]

kyoto is a horrible map, visibility is shit, tanks framerate too

[strong sparrow]

I agree

[stray rampart]

Requesting for some performance improvements in the new map

[quick coyote]

Heavy lmgs are unusable now
Recoil and time to kill is unbalanced other classes shred you
Even if you hit an RPG they can dash away before you swap

[bleak fern]

These people in game feedback since season 3 are delusional

[wheat swan]

Aint no way joe playing the finals😭🙏😭🙏😭🙏😭

[wind hemlock]

WOW they still haven't fixed the constant crashing issues. What are the developers actually doing with this game?

[nocturne fern]

Remove sniper, it takes away the whole purpose of it being a team game. ALSO TAKE AWAY THIS FUCK ASS HOOK MAN I CANT EVEN REACT AND IM DEAD. @thick owl u gotta be the least intelligent person i have ever seen

[zinc carbon]

My exact thought bro

[weak valley]

They actually removed the TA requirements for new players. Best devs.

[polar shell]

FFS FIX THE PADDLES AND MED OMFG EMARK

[thick owl]

Skill issue

[autumn shale]

the what also fuck the LH1

[winter lily]

PLZ REMOVE THE LH1 TO OPP IS 3 SHOOTS FOR KILLING AN LIGHT, absolute no skill

[drowsy vector]

I’m so glad this person is not in charge

[limber hare]

i got banned bc the game was constant crashing (no one could load in) we were all in connection loop that dcd us everytime
pls fix is embark, being banned for nothing is soooo annoying

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[stoic cosmos]

Most of the things I suggested until now happened, so stay tuned darling 😉

[sturdy holly]

bug with the load screen, seems there's a chance to not move past the loading screen into a match if you are alt+tabbed out

[quick owl]

If fucking sick of this shit. Everyone is in bronze for a reason, and then there's this guy with the LH1
https://i.imgur.com/ivB1Apo.png

[quick coyote]

Embark wtf ,is that are u kidding me ? i launched a TA ranked & i get blocked in your puss++++ loading page , hearing the start of the game , i restart your game , then i got 30min ban & -500 rr ???? u are so cringe pls fix your npc game & go back to school fr

[violet elbow]

Make Light skillful again, nerf the spamable cringe weapons like the LH1 and TKs, slightly adjust the bow to be higher risk/higher reward please.

[tender mica]

These are not even bad suggestions what lmao

[bright lark]

Not gonna lie…. Was hoping I’d wake up to an LH1 nerf

[abstract harbor]

lol

[wispy latch]

Who? I’m to old for twitch „stars“ lol

[boreal mirage]

hello. i always have a weird white square overhere on the left teammate. could you fix it? https://imgur.com/a/JgUT4xu

[weary pier]

When cheaters get banned and they play ranked the RS lost/won in the games he played should be reverted to stop boosting

[paper ivy]

yall NEED to fix the heal beam just straight up not working after like a round using it, its getting obnoxious

[dusty fox]

Season 3 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

[mild gust]

yea this bug has sold me and my team countless times (embark PLEASE fix it’s been going on forever)

[golden surge]

Add a TDM Mode for all that want some casual games with just killing enemies

[upper citrus]

Terminal attack is extremely fucking boring

[pulsar jay]

im stealing this lol

[violet wing]

@bright lark was there a patch today ? I'm waiting to see how they handle the situation with the first S3 patch quite eagerly.
@golden surge I guess world tour is not good enough of a team kill fest for you then ? XD

[mild pendant]

Then some damage quests would be to easy and they need to make it a little harder and people who want to play something else need too sweat even harder for the quests
(Was my first thought)

[clever badge]

People complaining about TA are lost in the sauce, its much much more fun as a competitive game mode. A lot of friends came back already because of it. People who want to run around and 3rd party noobs still can in the other unranked gamemodes 🙂 Some balance tweaks aside its solid.

[autumn warren]

I’ve only got one friend to join. 1/14. The rest said it’s is a worse CS 😭. This is actively keeping new players out I think

[nocturne fern]

preach

[green geode]

.

[mellow narwhal]

TA ain’t the finals tho it’s to slow paced and boring for majority of the community, cash out has its problems but atleast it’s fun and fast

[slate sphinx]

i hope the game will add a feature for see the ping, not only fps

[tepid zephyr]

Love to be able to hear footsteps when people are next to me

[lament sable]

Have we heard anything from embark yet about the state of the game rn? Terminal attack has destroyed what made this game fun. Lh1 is only adding to the torture

[bright lark]

Nah TA’s pretty quick…specifically when there’s 3-5 stack of Lights with LH1’s cracked out on aim assist😂😂 @pearl kiln NERF THAT GUN (or atleast revert it, it was never bad to begin with)

[fossil vault]

Cashout was the best gamemode

[knotty yew]

I dont know if my twitch is bugged or what but I cant claim the drop for the spear

[burnt widget]

Bro made it out the hills 🙏 😭

[cerulean musk]

There's a serious problem in console lobbies... xim... cronus... I still don't understand how no studio can detect or ban them... some people don't even hide in voice chat... "I have one but I don't use it... Sony banned the cronus so I don't use it anymore..." while on YouTube it's full of videos on how to make all this crap work and all the games don't care at all... Do something, it's no wonder people are leaving the game without realizing they're playing against soft cheats

[feral mirage]

Now remove the rest of Terminal Attack left in the game

[wet topaz]

yes cashout has problems with 3rd party, but its still ton more fun than TA....

[graceful hollow]

how many games did that take

[peak wagon]

I still think being forced to play TA is the biggest problem other than that this whole update has been a W💚

[mystic briar]

Prop hunt pls

[warm hill]

A hacking gadget to steal control of enemy gadgets would be cool

like if you see a mine or a turret and you have the spare time to interact with it without setting it off

[mild gust]

if you mean the original requirement to play ta games before unlocking everything else, it was reverted

[fervent citrus]

TY for removing the requirement for new players to complete 3 games of TA before being able to try the actual game modes the finals is known about. It was a complete blunder.
Season 3 changes are mostly good. Health regen values, guardian turret change, glitch mine rework, and gadget changes are all good. Alongside some minor weapon tweaks and improvements to useability such as KS-23 pump rate.

Now the bad.
Remember when cloak light db spam that can 2-shot any class in S1? Well, now we have throwing knives (where nobody uses the charge attack anymore its all spam), bow with no falloff, LH1 buffed even more, and db is back to being able to 2-shot any class.

Remember when light stun gun spam giving free kills? Well, now we have the winch claw for heavy that not only stuns, but also pulls and allows them to do a survivable point blank rpg.

What happened to the "long ttk" gameplay?

The CL40 was given a damage nerf and a fire rate buff, making it one of the second lowest dps to the lowest dps weapon. The only possible reason for this is due to it's burst being too good in TA but in TTK, it's one of the slowest and will lose most duels if not careful. This change made it unable to fight against heavies. The pump rate and fire rate would also be considered as a nerf as due to it depleting the 4 rounds quicker and spending more time instead with the long reload.

In s2 ranked, despite it being a poor pick, I still brought it to plat. It's main gimmick is despite the low dps, you need to play safely/area denial and learn its trajectory for mid-long shots. Before the change, the fire rate, reload, and ammo was low but it was rewarding to hit direct hits.

Overall. Didn't care about TA, but if core game and balance changes are catered to it instead of the core gameplay of the game it will mess up balances for other modes. Showing more that, already built gameplay and balance isn't fit for it. Most of the patch felt like tossing out the balance work made during s1 and s2.

[next stream]

RPG is the best choice for killing light easily😫💜

[ebon cloak]

Data reshaper should let you choose what barrels you want to convert into, and maybe also include transforming into mines or sentries

[proud kraken]

Please add uncapped levels. I don't need cosmetics. Especially now you can see the levels at the end of the match I would love to see uncapped levels.

Thank you.

[humble wave]

Heres an idea, a gadget that makes light get voices in their head to watch out for danger, for example ,"watch out for that mine", "theres a sniper aiming at you ", "someone is invis", "nade incoming", something like that

[graceful coral]

bring back cashout ranked

[gray flare]

didn't wake up to a light spam weapon nerf, day ruined

[cursive wadi]

Surprise surprise. Who would’ve thought that DPS and survivability is tied to classes? You want a class with bigger HP to have the same burst/DPS as the class with the least HP? LMAO. But you’re right fuck RPG.

[last swift]

I’m consistently getting killed by nothing at all and it’s driving me crazy. ⚠️ < this is what is says I die by I can be standing still away from players and I will still take damage randomly

[glacial oyster]

oh please can we have more body options for the heavy

i wanna make my heavy look like carlea1 whos a 6.8ft karate champion https://i2.paste.pics/R1YD7.png?rand=5Tth42J96k

[honest island]

the skin of the medium class weapon akm weapon skin flower bed is bugged the white wings are gone in the game turning black with the gold details

[blissful bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/icp-insane-clown-posse-insane-clown-posse-gif-20142690

[uneven prism]

implement these

[marble dove]

Twitch Rivals imo will not bring in more players and keep them here unless the game gets more balancing in gameplay that's severely needed. I know another free Steam game that did Twitch Rivals that didn't benefit enough much in the long-run.

[vapid pine]

Bring ranked cashout back

[fickle thunder]

Medium need some love. Maybe a marksman rifle?

[coarse dew]

LH1 -> 49 damage
Cloak -> launch activation cost OR revert visibility nerf

[ripe seal]

Emotes and Expressions in the lobby/loadout screen? Would love more chances to show off without throwing

[vale acorn]

Make 5v5v5 cashout

[late orchid]

TA is infested with LH1's, please balance this gun asap. It's so broken. Fire rate is just too high for the damage per shot

[autumn shale]

TA more like TDM curse these light LH1 Sniper abusing wierdos

[somber hound]

Buff LH1 not enough dmg should one shot mid

[wet topaz]

126 dmg to body with knives is crazy 🦨

[runic burrow]

Day 5 of asking for ranked cash out back. TA will be the final nail in the coffin if it's not moved back to a casual Playlist.

[wispy latch]

Trash season worser as season 2

[lilac coral]

You mean Worse than season 2

[sonic wigeon]

S3 is trash.. Nerf LH1, take back ranked cashout

[faint saddle]

The Finals shizoprenia update lmao

thats just wraith thoe lmao

[lavish shard]

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf stungun
Nerf Rpg claw
Reduce recoil lewis
Buff time deployement turret no in ranked
Light need survivality not damage buff

[rocky jetty]

buff playerbase

[frail wave]

Born to play Cashout, Forced to play Terminal Attack.
Imagine if Riot Games removed Summoner's Rift Ranked and replaced it with ARAM Ranked
Please try to keep in mind the changes themselves rather than the values and variables. I.E Rather than focus on the ammo count I gave for example, focus on the reload change itself. These values can be changed for further balance.

👇HOW TO FIX TERMINAL ATTACK👇
#💾┇terminal-attack-feedback message

HOW TO FIX CASHOUT

• When you wipe an enemy team, you gain 30 percent of their lost money, there is possibility that this makes it too good to hunt people down instead of playing the objective, **OR ** you only gain 15 % of their money.

The purpose of this addition is to coinside with the next change, i think holding objective may be TOO OP, there may be certain scenarios where holding a cashout makes it impossible for one team to win. Overall this is only an addition if the next change comes in.

• When holding cashout, @ 25 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ 75 % Completion gain $2.5k, @ Cashout Completion gain $5k, 3 Split rewards for one cashout. (overwatch capture point basically)
• Spawns should be fixed, 3 v 3 at first vault, both teams should spawn at an equal distance to the vault, nobody should spawn with a Tempo Advantage
• Charge N' Slam nerf
• Higher cash reward for kills
• No premade teammates in Diamond 2+ Emerald 2+, ladder rank should be based on individual skill rather than who stacks/plays more
• Only One 22k vault should spawn, at this stage of the game, 1st place should be decided
• Give the RPG 2 charges, but hard nerf it's damage to players and maybe increase it's arena damage. The winch claw was a good step in solidifying the Heavy's Identity. Which is a defend, crowd control, cashout control, arena destruction.

there are no finals anymore
I know you want asian players to play more, but ask yourself... would you play a game that isn't spoken in a language that you understand?
Do you expect players to learn a language, just to play your game? The trailers already had a voiced Korean Announcer, where is he?

make an anime to win people back, the finals is an undercooked game with lots of potential and bad timing. Much like Cyberpunk 2077, what did C77 do ? Made a crazy good anime and THE FINALS has good setup for lore. I don't even like anime, but this would save the game (half joking)

[open flax]

I want technical support

[rotund flame]

Boston Celtics just won the NBA Finals, so I think a basketball skin (or set, just like the football one) would be cool. Maybe even throw in a green and white one for the Celtics.

[sacred inlet]

There is too much inconsistency between the range you hurt yourself with an RPG versus a CL40, just kinda feels weird.

[peak wagon]

You’re not forced to play TA my friend, we all know world tour is out, you’re only reason for playing ranked is for the skin? You don’t enjoy playing the game itself? World tour is literally cash out just no fancy badges or anything, they said it’s gonna be back as the ranked again but for now it’s gonna be something else because they’re working on cash out. Just play the game and let embark cook, criticisms are fine but yall need to quit poisoning the well

[terse lark]

you right. lh1 needs to go back down to 49 dmg, the cloak needs its activation cost down (maybe not like it was originally but at least 25% cost. and honestly throwing knives should get its damage back down to 60.
also, something in medium's kit that isn't healbeam or defib needs a buff.

@daring fossil I would want them to bring the damage down to 49 first, to see how it preforms and if it still needs another nerf. then they can nerf more of what the need to.

[abstract ridge]

They’re killing the game by forcing us to play TA ranked FOR AN ENTIRE SEASON… ain’t nobody wanna do that. It can remain as cash out ranked even when they’re trying to adjust it.

[daring fossil]

the damage change to the LH1 barely makes any difference, what they need to do is revert the changes to recoil, that's why it's OP right now

[delicate star]

remove ta as ranked

[quick coyote]

[frigid jolt]

bring back how comp was please! Your game has lost its image!

[elder folio]

Give light a spec that's just Titanfall stim pilot I think it would be funny to see all the ADHD toddlers in the arena going mach six
To the person below me (Mike Ox): Womp womp cry about it. It's a game and these people wanna play cashout, however with the removal of unranked cashout they can't anymore so they treat world tour as unranked

[cosmic sedge]

world tour SUCKS! No one there is taking the game seriously and actually trying to win! Sometimes i get medium with NO HEAL (if you play turret you're a selfish dumbass), NO DISFRIBILATOR AND NO MOBILITY 😭

[rain epoch]

Can't be mad at them, the new "Peak" default loadout that The Finals starts you with is turret, AK goo grenade, no heals and no defib.

Embark should of made the default invis light, LH1, sonar, thermal, gateway. You won't need heals when your teammate has access to something that's more annoying than nukes ever were.

[fresh spire]

Buff invis. Make it last longer, no sounds and 100% invis.

[quick coyote]

@fickle linden @wheat fractal
copy pasted the same thing several times

[copper lark]

(this probably isn't a priority request but wanted to share anyways) could we even out xp gain a bit more for gadgets, some things like gateway take forever vs stuff like pyro grenade which is quick, speeding up the xp gain on some gadgets that take forever could be a nice

[wet topaz]

just want to say, if i started playing this game in this season and not season 1-2, i would uninstall it after couple hours. You wont bring new players or bring older ones back with TA ranked. Peace 🖖

[autumn shale]

shut the fuck up xxoo

[tawdry walrus]

oh

[acoustic sparrow]

Add more crosshair customization please

[nocturne fern]

you need to be rewarded for the amount of time you hold a cashout. lets do some easy maths. divide the amount of money you get from a cashout by the amount of time it takes to cash the cashout out. for each second that a team holds it, they will get the amount of money corresponding.

[small rune]

lh1 nerf when? want to play the game

[proven ibex]

Dear Embark , please keep that ruby Skin with you, I don't want it. I've been playing worldTour but as lack of SSMB and it's not competitive anymore, it's not fun anymore and all I'm getting is 1$ worth credits after getting those ranks which doesn't deserve the grinding. I legit gave a try for Ranked TA for 3 days and it's pain in the ass. I don't really understand how come you thought it's better than Cashout. I really gave it a try but it really sucks big time specially with Lights infestation. Even the TA rank system sucks.

REMEMBER YOU KILLED COMP CASHOUT BY MAKING IT A CASUAL WORLDTOUR AND KILLED CORE RANKED SYSTEM BY MAKING TA RANKED.

EVEN though I have MB to buy BP I bought starter pack and store items only to support you, I'm sure there are so many loyal players like me but sad to say.. YOU'RE DOING A MISTAKE. YOU'RE KILLING YOUR GAME WITH THIS SEASON . I'm sure I'm not the only one spitting these facts.

[placid hazel]

nerf lh1

[lilac gorge]

As a somewhat veteran player of the finals with 337 hours on the game, I would like to say that I am genuinely disappointed that the game is in its current state. The thing that drew me to the finals was the action packed gameplay of constant mayhem and fun. Terminal attack is the WORST thing that has happened to the finals ranked. Your game is simply not made for terminal attack. One of the main things that work for games like CSGO and valorant is taht there are clear lanes where players can go. The finals simply does not have this. Dying to a random sniper light half way across the map, and having to sit there and twiddle my thumbs is one of the worst things one can experience in the finals. Forcing players to play terminal attack for the ONLY ranked game is a slap in the face for all veteran players and MUST be changed as soon as possible. I would suggest at least making an extra ranked system where you can either play terminal attack or normal cashout, which is your core game is it not? Please come up with some solution.

[tight flower]

Terminal attack needs to have the heal beam activated and when the health bar on it fills up it doesn't recharge because medium only getting 2 specializations and 1 of the best gadgets removed makes the class terrible other then for turret. Putting the heal beam in would also make the heavies more viable and we wouldn't see just 4 light 1 medium VS 5 lights. It would also let the mediums and the heavies get there health bar back one more time since lights can get all their health back everytime. In every other game with a mode like this there is a way to heal like in R6 you have doc to heal you and people would play as a team more if there could be a couple healers on the team even if the heal beam can only heal up once

[high lynx]

please either give the riot shield HP so that it can actually break under sustain fire or reduce its current HP, current riot shield with its buffed shield raise speed and enormous hitbox, to put it lightly, is annoying to play aginst

[strong escarp]

The damage change has allowed the LH1 to hit new breakpoints that let it kill as fast as the M11. It definitely DOES make a difference.

[stable knoll]

One thing I would love to see in tournament is to be able to swap loadouts mid round, being locked in really negates the hole point of reserves. For example, theres been times when I'm up against a team that stays super close, and I would love to swap to the CL-40 to exploit that. Or like trying to take a point but they have 3 turrets, ans we wipe, I want to swap in a reshaper to take care of it. Especially since the reahaper is so situational.

[tribal olive]

soulslike stamina system for riot when embark? /s

[obtuse wedge]

If we choose to play ranked and get skins, we play cashout rather than TA, it’s not like we did a vote where 80% said yes let’s have TA in ranked. The moment they decided to do some changes that will fundamentally change the game itself should think twice before actually implement that. So no, we don’t enjoy playing ranked right now. World tour has no incentive whatsoever, it’s same as playing casual cashout and quick cash. Whatever they were trying to fix or do for cashout should at the same time give us the option to play ranked cashout as well. It’s not like people dive into ranked 24/7 and no one actually touch the casual cash out and quick cash ever once, they can collect data from that. And idk why u said let embark cook, what they’ve been cooking isn’t for us, and now when new season arrives majority wants changes revert back, u want us to wait and let them cook again!? Look at what was the number right after release and look at now, we are now literally 13k or 14k “# users playing at same time” where we were having 40k on Steam

[mighty vault]

I need to say this before it's too late. The World Tour and probably the absence of the ranked cashout mode have saved the South American server of the game.

Before this change, the only type of game where I could find a match was quick cash, but since then it’s been possible to play the mode at any time of day without needing to resort to the NA server.

I know there is a very vocal appeal from certain community members for the ranked cashout mode to return, but I fear that this would cause the mode to disappear from the SA servers again.

In my opinion, the addition of the World Tour mode was a great move by Embark. I find the story-driven approach this mode brings extremely engaging and interesting: your 'rank' is defined by how much you can play. I just hope there will be improvements in player matchmaking, though I don’t expect anything too similar to the traditional ranking system.

Another cool thing that the World Tour brings is the game show fantasy, which is toned down in quick cash mode. The idea of traveling the world, the menu, the presentation of the map at the beginning of the matches, and the stages up to the finals offer an incredible experience.

In conclusion, I hope Embark reads this and helps us keep the cashout mode alive on the South American server. Thanks.

[daring fossil]

it stops all the times where you die with your opponent left at 3-5hp and that's it. I've been maining the LH1 since beta, and if I would have changed anything it would have been the damage increase to remove the requirement of 1 extra shot for 3-5hp. The recoil, bloom and fire rate change is what made the weapon OP, not the slight damage increase.

[wide mortar]

as a heavy 🙏 please nerf rpg 🙏 i want it to be in level with everything else

[lavish shard]

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf stungun
Nerf Rpg claw
Reduce recoil lewis
Buff time deployement turret no in ranked
Light need survivality not damage buff

[solemn linden]

Im always a respectful person... BUT WHO THE FUCK CAME UP WITH THE IDEA TO OBERBUFF THE LH1 TO THIS STUPID LEVEL?????? EVERY FUCKING GAME MODE IS TDM NOW

[feral mirage]

Nerf Terminal Attack (make it's influence on the game weaker)

[magic sequoia]

My game will crash if i play it for a long time

[peak wagon]

So what I’m seeing is that you’re only incentive to playing ranked cash out is to get the skins, not the simple fact of playing and enjoying the game which is fine just own that rather than trying to paint something that just isn’t true, cash out IS coming back as ranked they just want to work on it as they stated if you can’t even engage with that without talking about the numbers on steam for launch then it’s all bad faith yapping tbh. The finals is a great game and has always been the type to listen to its community, they understand that people aren’t happy about it, you don’t think anyone in the office would know about the backlash? They put cash out on the shelf anyways so they could work it, how about we start coming together and start suggesting better ideas and expressing ourselves more productively rather than just being like “game mode is bad, bring ranked cash out back, 13k on steam” like OK buddy, count the console players too at least, such bad faith fr

[fallow idol]

why cant i move on controlller?

[vivid grove]

imagine holding twitch rivals when the game isnt even playable to the point where people dc every single match holy 🤡 company

i love being 1v3 in final round of world tour every single time i play wooo

[broken geyser]

Yup that'd be awesome

[hexed crown]

CAN YOU FIX STUCK AT LOADING SCREEN BUG? I got match cooldown twice

[void rapids]

Leaving penalty is currently bugged in Ranked TA. Once your past round 1, it doesn’t penalize you for leaving, both in rank or giving you a suspension timer to play again.

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[wispy sand]

Max level Equipment should be able to use all animations for any unlocked skin they have for that Equipment, on any other skin for that Equipment. (primarily inspect animation)

[gusty wagon]

fix bug where it doesnt let you shoot or use items or anything. happened in a ranked game, horrible bug.

[cold lotus]

nerf lh1 and take out the winch claw stg

[jagged cedar]

Replace ta ranked with 5v5 or 3v3 cashout. 3v3v3v3 cashout is just an objectively bad competitive mode while ta is boring and doesn't have the finals charm

[pure forum]

After 500h of finals.. I have to say I don't play it anymore.. Just in case you don't understand.. I PLAYED XDEFIANT TODAY... And it's because of the light shit you did.. Every round is full of Lh1... Knife throwing shit and bow... Your decisions this season was so bad... I played it near every day and I want play more.. But not how it is now..

[daring fossil]

world tour lets them iterate on cashout every 2 weeks, you can't change the rules on a ranked mode every 2 weeks without fucking up peoples ranks and pissing people off. I understand TA sucks, but the reasoning behind the change for this season makes sense. Hopefully cashout comes back and is more balanced than it's ever been as a result next season.

[spice anchor]

I am full of hate right now but I will keep this nice and without rude words. WTH is that reword for a 12 round match? 594 ? It was hard, enemy team won first 5 in a row. I was sure we lose and then after breaking a sweat we won 7 in a row. And after that I got +594 points ? last 20 games we lost, I fell from silver 1 to 4 every game I was loosing 800-1200 points and after a very hard game we won and I got 594. GO to H.
Terminal attack was perfect. Why did you do that ? why I need to hold E to “hack” terminal. It makes attacking impossible. Not only defending team have a time bonus to set 100000 traps but I need hold still for 5 seconds to insert the hack ? enemy team won 5 in a row because we couldn’t attack. We were getting wiped . Than we had to defend now they got wiped 7 times in a row. Don’t you think there is a balance issue?
Plus, L became powerful, people figure out how to play L and now sometimes whole team is L. what exactly Ls have the prep match more? Ls don’t hate traps or mines. Just run around waiting to times to go away. In previous terminal attack I had plenty of time to plant a mine or what ever by the time enemy shows up. Plus I was destroying some walls ect to get an advantage that is now out side of my prep zone. Outrages.
S3 is bad. I want to play it and I will. But there is no fun in it. I will move away probably if there is no patch with CTRL Z on this Season.
PS Luis gun was my best. Now only God can hold the recoil.

[exotic grove]

Anti gravity grenades + destroying structures that are floating = complete game break

[tame quest]

They change stuff too often, people like SOME consistency. It honestly still feels like the game is in beta with how drastic the changes are every week/season. <- in response to player retention

[quick coyote]

i second this

[royal gust]

green ppl speak facts

[tacit acorn]

Here me out, in TA we should be able to heal to full hp. It's kinda stupid how every lobby is just full of lights. I mean it makes perfect sense when someone is stuck at 100hp they are a guaranteed 2 tap with the LH1. So the solution is allow people to heal to full and it'll take on a more Cod s&d gameplay loop rather than CS or R6. With everyone having the ability to heal to full hp, a class like medium or heavy would be able to have clutch moments while lights will have to play smart and use their utility to make an outplay against the higher hp target. Allowing everyone to heal to full would also solve the everyone sniping problem too. Since everyone is trying to just chip away health on people to get them to 100hp for the easy 1 tap with a sniper it would make running sniper a lot less viable and annoying. I still agree with the decision to not have a healing beam just please let us have a chance against all the damn lights 🙂

[warm compass]

aim assist need buffs

[solemn linden]

Oh hell yes please. I already had to cheese the level 7 aps with triple goo gun after the change to "xp per destroyed projectile"
Now the level 8 skind after the recent nerf gonna be straight up unobtainable

[quick coyote]

We need a limited time event on Kyoto, melee only

[rose nacelle]

Just a suggestion but maybe 8 year olds shouldn't be able to play this game?

[hollow dune]

nice matchmaking

[scenic forge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/Oog91p7nUX

[full dragon]

Can't tune into Twitch Rivals because it starts at 5am in Asia where I'm from.

[strong escarp]

It was always borderline OP when you used a monitor crosshair to negate the effect of visual recoil. It would've been straight broken with the damage buff alone. Now it's more accessible (good) AND it kills as fast as an SMG out to much further ranges (really bad).

[abstract harbor]

VERY smart to remove the TA requirement for new players.

[spark shard]

Review respawns, sometimes it does not make sense even play when you have to run like 1000000km to not even see the cashout box.

[nocturne sand]

I mentioned yd sonar is too strong, but with the prevalence of sonar grenades, it makes it very hard to use the sniper. The animation of an enemy pinged with sonar is hard to track while in the sniper scope. Not sure how to fix but my teammates agree so it’s not just me that has this opinion.

Also, in TA make it so that attackers and defenders alternate every round. Defenders have a clear advantage.

Ottr had some good suggestions for map changes for TA with invisible barriers, I’m sure you saw that feedback.

Lastly, PUT HYPE BACK TO WHERE IT WAS ON THE COMMUNICATION WHEEL

[tender mica]

Nerf LH1

[swift pulsar]

Nerf LH1

[umbral sparrow]

Nerf LH1

[merry rain]

Minor nerf Lh1 to a four hit kill on light plz. I love the new firing pattern and visibility, but it is a little too good.

[rough flower]

main menu jukebox for I can change music to season 1 thankyou

[mild pond]

Replace the Look Boost settings with an increase to maximum base sensitivity. Why should I have to extend my stick to MAX INPUT just to be able to turn at a fraction of the speed I could achieve with a mouse?

OPTIMISE CONTROLLER SETTINGS (please)

oh and adding an axis-snap feature, or the option to customise how strong you want it to be, would be awesome. it’s nearly impossible to look perfectly straight up and down on this game, which can really mess with your aim

[broken geyser]

EMBARK Allow heavy players to throw their spears. But not unlimited like the throwing knives. Instead when u throw it once u have to wait for it to come back to ur hand kinda like Thors hammer. It's literally a SPEAR. And having to wait for it to come back even to engage in close range battle prevents it from being overpowered but viable longer distances. Maybe allow players to aim and throw it through by toggling on and off the aiming mode. WE NEED THIS IN THE FINALS.

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here are a few ways that can improve the shield, as it underperforms against any other ranged and melee weapon. I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• The shield should block a larger area of the body to make it more consistent at blocking melee, bullets, and splash damage. Players with decent aim can easily hit the arms and legs which defeats the whole purpose of it.
• Blocking melee attacks should inflict a knockback to prevent melee weapons from clipping through and scoring a second hit with the active frames.
• Increase the melee range, even just +1m of range would make it feel so much better to catch enemies that were just outside your range before.
• Electrify the baton and allow it to glitch enemies for a very short period, it would provide a lot of team utility and prevent dash lights and charge and slam heavies from effortlessly hard countering shielders

FIX THE RIOT SHIELD BUGS:

• When picking up throwables in the arena, the first person shield model gets messed up and blocks your entire screen.
• Remove the fov and turning speed reduction when you raise the shield to block, it makes it overly clunky to use and feels terrible in a fast pace environment.

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

• Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many strategies for the other builds! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, especially to better support my team against fire, detection sources, or to help revive teammates, and steal cashouts in an open area.

FIX THE GLITCH TRAP:

• Glitched heavy can still use the winch claw and it doesn't stop chargeNslam

[viscid crow]

And gives a bit of damage if something is on its way

[rare violet]

would love to see a emblem maker be added to the game. Something along the lines of how Halo 2,3, and reach were or some really cool and unique player cards. What I like about the finals is the freedom with customizing your character and i think being able to create your own emblem would add more to expressing yourself as a player

[heavy carbon]

It's a fun game, I like ta (terminal attack), world tour, and all the quick play modes. Honestly my favourite game this year. BUT, please for the love of god prevent or at least reduce RS deduction from lost ranked matches when a teammate disconnects, this is the third game in a row a teammate has disconnected and we lost because of it

[crystal cave]

I played the duel swords and I realized that the medium has no specialization that synergies well with it. Please add a new specialization to medium, any specialization feels useless while playing the duel swords

[rapid stream]

almost every hairstyle in the game has clipping issues if you use the dummy face and the welder's mask

[odd ibex]

plz add Kusarigama to lights as it has both chain and blade so can u go for charged attacks for longer range chain blade attack and close range attacks,extremely versatile weapons.

Add chainsaw to heavy class for a short charge forward attack and heavy swing like hammer,imagine the destruction

Add a automatic crossbow(look at the weapon in farcry4)for medium or heavy that sticks to walls and u can climb on it,it give a new range for vertical travel

Add a fast downward lunge attack for dagger while falling and since u go fast downward gravity isn’t floaty that does more damage the higher u fall cause I don’t want to chase people around like a dumb goose and actually ambush people

U can add a laser sight to rpg that’s visible to everyone as a warning and u need to aim down sight to use rpg so no quick spamming rpg out of nowhere.

U should use grapple hook to stick whenever u want no cool-down to horizontal surfaces up on rooms for ambush and vertical too.

Healing dart gadget for lights so I have a reason to follow team mates not not go solo,atleast u have to be accurate and not a auto-aim beam spam

Add single action fanning revolver for light that’s projectile based,it’s accurate long distance and fast fire at close.

Have different game balance built around games modes cause what’s fun in casual is annoying in ranked and power shift like sniper and explosives

[runic burrow]

its not bad faith, the finals advertised a gamemode that brought thousands of people to play it due to the new twist on the fps. Then they decide to replace their one unique thing with a limited time event that had a small percentage of positive feedback without any notice to the fan base. Sure to "work on cashout" but every other game can make changes without removing a key aspect of their game. And yes people like to play ranked for rewards, doesnt mean the gamemode your playing for those rewards shouldnt be enjoyable. bad faith fr fr to dismiss someones drive to play ranked because its different then yours

[quartz whale]

Kyoto map has some issues with destruction, when you destroy too many buildings, the server crash for everyone.

[abstract harbor]

Day 214 of stating the obvious: Four team modes don't work.

[undone eagle]

Nerf the freaking light shotgun, its way to op right now

[queen ocean]

Give us better Rewards for playing World Tour and reaching certain stages.

Multibucks just dont make it, because you can just pay few dollars to achieve that "Reward".

Give us similar rewards as the current TA Ranked system

[young drift]

same here bro, one miss play and they dc

[coarse dew]

In the final round of a tournament, each cash box should be worth 25k instead of 10k. It makes it feel like more is on the line, makes it easier to grind for deep pockets achievement, and also makes more sense since you are playing for more money. In the way it is now, the final round is where you get the least amount of cash when it should be the most.

[astral thorn]

Embark please don't let this game die

[quick coyote]

You can crash any map with enough coordinated destruction.

[obtuse wedge]

1. Idk what’s ur point of playing ranked cash out other than skins and claim up, if u were simply playing ranked for fun then I suggest u look for a trio with ur friend and do that, don’t troll randoms I beg u, such a disrespectful act.
2. U seems to acknowledge the fact it’s going down, I never said I hate the finals, but lots of faith has been put and shown by players, and this is what we got now, idk what sort of ideas behind the “pulling cash out front the ranked”, but been declining since the start of the release while it has over 7M registered acct? I’m about to lose every bit of the faith on them. Oh btw, haven’t even mention what kind of balance they’ve done yet… so if u like The Terminal rather than The Finals, sure go ahead and enjoy. I have faith and patience for bugs and balance for new season, but until The Terminal change back to The Finals, I might as well enjoy something else. And idk why u mentioned console when my point was its declining, I’m a PC Steam users, bring that number up if u want if u wanna prove it’s going better. And btw I did two full max-letters feedback on how to bring things back and better if u spend 5sec to search it up rather than calling me unproductive straight up just because I replied u, that’s disrespectful.

[earnest ermine]

I bet this dude will still be asking the Devs to buff the riot shield on the day the servers are taken offline

[naive hound]

Wake up early

[fallow idol]

give the med class better guns

[radiant osprey]

Embark I will give u the award for the worst game ever! Thank u so much for bringing back light meta! I love getting 1 tapped by a LH1 and getting absolutely railed by the bow! 🤗

[gray flare]

nerf bow sonar lh1

[daring fossil]

anything is "OP" when someone is good with it. It had a high skill floor. it wasn't just visual recoil, they reduced the bloom too. It's OP now because they made it accessible, not because of the damage buff.

[lament heron]

I know everyone hates Terminal Attack but I would like to join to the haters and say I prefer Cashout or at least the way of how the cashout works. I miss ranked for cashout a lot..... TA is a ncie mode if u are bored of cashout but not as a main mode

[strong escarp]

so "killing as fast as an SMG" doesn't raise any red flags? it also doesn't take that much skill to use. it was an extremely safe poke weapon that was perfectly usable at close range, with massive damage per mag to boot.

There's no way that you think the accessibility buff is the problem, and not the damage buff, when plenty of experienced players have showcased its potential as Light's best gun with a monitor crosshair already (which acted as the "accessibility buff" before).

The bloom buff is also inconsequential since it was already a laserbeam at mid-range before.

[obsidian solar]

With how the things are looking I wouldn't be surprised if the shield doesn't get buffed (even though it desperatly needs it) until the end💀

[odd rapids]

kyoto should not have a 85% pick rate all i fucking play

[placid hazel]

bro lh1 is so annoying

[void blade]

ITS NOT NERFED YET???

[pure forum]

Try to aim and shoot.. Aim and shoot.. For me it's l2 and r2 just clicking and after some seconds it will work.. But it's on ps5 maybe it will also help on pc

[rough herald]

kyoto bamboo is horrible
so hard to see enemy plus if they have camo shirt and in a purple team its impossible to spot them
my zip line keep placing it self on bamboo
movement is pain
even nading the bamboo still need like 5 nade to clear an area

[brittle oasis]

whats up with getting stuck in the loading screen pre match??? :/

[ivory pewter]

bring back ranked cashout

[rare violet]

for real. Haven't had this much fun since Halo 3. This is how you do a live service\free to play game. After seeing all the layoffs that were happening, I was scared that it was going to happen to embark because the player population was declining after season 1. So, I made it a priority to start playing more and supporting by buying the battle pass after seeing the unique cosmetics(and fair pricing) that other live service games lack tremendously without feeling like your are getting robbed. Honestly think it up from here if they continue with this passion and community centered strategy. Now just got to keep newer players from giving up and getting frustrated and actually work as a unit and not lone wolf everything lol

[tawny oriole]

Too much cheaters on Terminal attack people one shot every shot, verify headshot rate and accuracy of reported palyers you will see @dense gulch @dusty zodiac

[vast obsidian]

Will there be an update announcement today

[dim yarrow]

Kyoto map is too unoptimized. A lot of fps drops and lags out of no where . One of my least favorite map

[drifting gorge]

-doesn't touch RPG so it's still a must pick for heavy,

-doesn't touch defibrillator

-doesn't touch healing beam (in short, the most problematic parts of last season)

-buffs LH1

-doesn't elaborate

[dense arrow]

Game question: What are the "limited rewards" from world tour?

[mystic minnow]

not the games fault u have a bad pc

[mellow narwhal]

Season 3 is so close to being the best season we've had but so far thanks to this god awful meta

LH1 = revert the changes made this season and nerf the range (in the beta it already was insanely strong and you buffed it which didn't make much sense)

Throwing Knives = need either to be reverted back to what they were pre season 2 or a dmg nerf

Whipclaw/whatever its called my brain no remeber = needs it range cut to about 12m (the lowest id put it is 10)

RPG = 80 player dmg but bigger radius

New map is gorgeous but is poorly optimized (worse than the rest of the game) also feels way to big for cashout but that might just be me.

I'm not gonna rant on about terminal attack but hopefully mid season 3 shakeup will remove the mode from ranked and make world tour ranked in its place.

The quick turn around with the 5 TA games gives me hope that most of the issues this season will be sorted quickly and within the next few weeks/months the game will be back to being great.

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[oblique sand]

Has the dev team considered doing more overwatch style ranked gameplay where multiple game modes are in the ranked pool instead of only one game mode like terminal attack or whatever else? Feel like that would be a good middle ground

[cursive latch]

Has the LH1 been nerfed yet (I know it hasn’t, will keep posting this until it is)

[next stream]

Imagine that you are training players on a specific gaming system for 180 days after gaining experience in the game and knowing when to kill and when to move, and one night you change all of this with the new rank system. What do you expect?? Players withdraw

[vivid saffron]

L take. I have 3080ti and 7800x3d my frame drops in half in certain parts of Kyoto. This is not pc performance issue if many people are higher, including high end rigs

[split elm]

game is noice

[dense marlin]

Why is it so hard to remove hidden deadzone on controller and add outer deadzone into the settings man 😔

[sick forum]

controversial but i think TA is a good ranked mode, should be shorter tho i get teammates disconnecting all the time

[peak wagon]

I haven’t dismissed any reason to play ranked or not I just want people to own that position and say what they want to see change rather than spouting off nonsense about how the games dying, how we’re being FORCED to play, it’s all dramatic asf. All I’m asking is to be reasonable with your response instead of poisoning the well, like if you wanna keep your head in the sand about the amount review bombing, shit that embark gets for TEMPORARILY removing a game mode as ranked as a result of declining numbers then you’re just wrong idk what else to say there, there’s still incentive to play WT but you just refuse to even talk about it. Thats my criticism on some of the playerbase, you’re the only one being disrespectful but telling people to just play casuals/trios and troll who just enjoy playing the game competitively, even if there is no skin for it or no ranked, it’ll be back, it’s fine just express your concerns (because they always listen to us unlike any dev team) and just wait for it to be back, no big deal. If it’s THAT big of a deal idk touch grass? It’ll be back, relax, play the game, express how you feel and be nice lol 💚🫱🏽‍🫲🏻

[wanton phoenix]

nerfing range? imo it only needed the recoil buff/visual recoil buff not damage

[daring fossil]

what's wrong with it killing as fast as the rest of lights weapons? and it did take skill to use, that's why barely anyone used it. unless you were good with it, you got obliterated by literally every other gun at close range, it was only a safe poke weapon from distances, you had to be good to be able to spam it fast enough while landing all your shots to kill anyone with it in a medium to close range fight, and half of those fights you would lose with your enemy left at 3-5hp (which is why they buffed damage). Nobody was complaining about the LH1 prior to the buff, all they need to do is revert the recoil, bloom and fire rate changes.

@mystic minnow no hes right, I get 140+ fps on every other map at maxed settings, kyoto I get 110-120 and frame drops to 80 or below during destruction events. It runs much worse comparatively to all the other maps

@strong escarp yeah, now it doesn't. It was fine before the buff.

@strong escarp reducing the damage and firerate isn't going to fix anything. the problem is they made the gun too fucking easy for anyone to use.

[umbral warren]

Rank 1 TA hating TA says a lot about the gamemode in this type of game lmao. Bring back Cashout Ranked!

[strong escarp]

for a gun that's so good at mid-range, it only makes sense to have a more distinct disadvantage at close range. it clearly doesn't while it's capable of SMG time-to-kill (or even faster with the 2x headshot multiplier). there are two ways to achieve this:

• reduce damage back to 49.
• nerf the fire rate even further, down to 240 RPM.

[atomic drum]

Season 3 already drop a week,I just completed 8 match,got gold 2 top1900.season 2 drop next day,I got gold 2 top 2000.devs should know the data,we don't like ta be rank mode

[signal basin]

EMBARK ! Your questions about our feedback on TA ! THIS IS A FKING GREAT IDEA !!!

THANK YOU !

I hope you will have a good feedback and you will make some changes in the futur about it !
I really appreciate that you ask us about it directly in the game ! Don't hesitate to do it as much as you want ! For real ! That's exactly why I love your studio beside some bad choices about balance or buff/nerf ! 💀

Thanks again !

[cold bolt]

why isn't the in game survey showing for everyone? I didn't get it when I logged in just now.

@wispy latch TA vs cash out is a much bigger deal than balance changes atm, and I'm pretty sure they know by now how overtuned LH1 and stuff are

[royal gust]

The heavy nerfs on M60 and Lewis are too drastic. Change that fucking shit back asap. I need to almost full clip a Medium that can outbeam me easily. Specially if a medium is healed you cant do shit.

Stop nerfing heavy and start nerfing light to the ground. i die in 1 millisecond from throwing knives and swords and daggers and bows and LH1. Its a fucking melee game all of a sudden. Boring as fuck?

TA is dogwater because of 5v5 Lights aka 10 lights constantly and chronically and terminally illy. Its just boring dogwater.

Servers are nerfed in performance. Thats also very sad.

Fix cashout in ranked.

Simultaneously having both and balancing both cant be done like this.

All in all the game went to dogwater in 2 weeks.

Overwatch type balancing dev team destroyed the whole game into a melee Terminal Illness game

[wispy latch]

The feedback question and the answer options are really „brilliant“ 💀🥔 guys balance the game wth

[autumn sedge]

revert lh1 buff

[mental hatch]

nerf fkin lh1 and knives

[lavish shard]

Ho yeah

[sudden summit]

revert LH1 please

[timid parrot]

The finals Is so unique why make the worst gamemode the main ranked gamemode I played ranked because it's unique now it's like seige and overwatch mixed horrible idea

[fiery orbit]

Please repair this bug, where sometimes I get stuck in loading screen of the match, and I have to restart the game

[glacial knot]

I switched to LH1 OMG this weapon is meta is OP as fuck

[true field]

I've looked for "World Tour Point" in the discord, found no answers tho, i guess imma do my own research: 5 points for finishing 1. round, 10 points for 2. round, 20 points for winning

[drowsy oriole]

please fix these awful spawns in World tour and quick cash. should never spawn across the map with a cashout more than half way done

[jolly pike]

Bring cashout ranked again please

[solar stone]

yes plz embark

[drowsy grove]

Please don't do this embark I like actually getting a queue pop

[brittle oasis]

nerf throwing knives..kills in 0.5 seconds,,spamming..man ;S

[torpid quarry]

Revert all changes to LH1 please, at least give the old firing animation back. Signed, LH1 main since beta

[unique steeple]

I fucking love how the game gets stuck on "connecting" and doesn't let me log back in and then suspends me from ranked for 10 minutes

Also gotta agree on the LH1 this is way too OP i feel bad for using it

[daring fossil]

agreed, I've mained it since beta and it feels absolutely awful to use now even though its 1000x easier to use. It takes no skill now and I don't want to use it because of that. I'd be ok with the 3 extra damage per shot, but the recoil and firerate needs to be reverted at minimum.

[worldly scaffold]

Thank you for removing the requirement of TA matches for new players, that is the first step in the right direction. Also, hotfix LH1, this is the one time you should not wait, it is THAT broken.

[quick coyote]

My Idea to "Fix" the light class with the community, yes yes everyone will complain no matter what happens, but as a light main I personally think cutting the grapple in half and giving it 2 charges will be better for everyone, it requires more skill, cant launch yourself across the map with full momentum and gives an opportunity for more skill and plays to be pulled swinging like spiderman twice to flank a corner or get up somewhere. It'd help with pacing and everyone in general. IN MY OPINION 🤯

[gusty wagon]

insane right?

[void blade]

This is one of the few times when waiting till Wednesday to patch is unacceptable

[topaz seal]

it looks like individual score or skill is not taken into account in matchmaking in TA at all

[icy kestrel]

#bringbackrankedcashout

[wispy latch]

Funny couple days ago I read stuff like: they listen to the community, LET THEM COOK. Lol

[wind zodiac]

Revert the previous rank mode please!

[thorn elbow]

REMINDER

• bring back ranked cashout

[tulip belfry]

TA SUCKS bring back ranked cash out

[bleak echo]

i’m going to take my life if I don’t get ranked cashout back

[signal bronze]

Give duel blades a buff like riot shield by allowing sprint while swinging, it really needs it.

[rotund flame]

Based opinion

[odd ibex]

plz add Kusarigama to lights as it has both chain and blade so can u go for charged attacks for longer range chain blade attack and close range attacks,extremely versatile weapons.

Add chainsaw to heavy class for a short charge forward attack and heavy swing like hammer,imagine the destruction

Add a automatic crossbow(look at the weapon in farcry4)for medium or heavy that sticks to walls and u can climb on it,it give a new range for vertical travel

Add a fast downward lunge attack for dagger while falling and since u go fast downward gravity isn’t floaty that does more damage the higher u fall cause I don’t want to chase people around like a dumb goose and actually ambush people

U can add a laser sight to rpg that’s visible to everyone as a warning and u need to aim down sight to use rpg so no quick spamming rpg out of nowhere.

U should use grapple hook to stick whenever u want no cool-down to horizontal surfaces up on rooms for ambush and vertical too.

Healing dart gadget for lights so I have a reason to follow team mates not not go solo,atleast u have to be accurate and not a auto-aim beam spam

Add single action fanning revolver for light that’s projectile based,it’s accurate long distance and fast fire at close.

Have different game balance built around games modes cause what’s fun in casual is annoying in ranked and power shift like sniper and explosives

[cinder thorn]

I am really sad, that you guys deleted the Ranked Matches section. I was really enjoying that in season one and two with my mates. World tour seems okayish, but I really liked the map rotation in old ranked, rather than next to always the japanese map.

[proven ibex]

Why the TA servey link Not working?

[bold scroll]

I really hate when the heal beam bugs out and its unusable 😭 please fix ittt pleaseee I just couldn't heal in world tour for an entire round

[tough merlin]

The crickets from the devs lately is wild, you got player counts dropping like flies, the discords on fire and all we get is "hey guys we're doing a tourney for the mode tha'ts not even ranked!".

[wispy vault]

pls lower DPS on op weapons and remove Lewis nerf wtf is this

[pale shuttle]

LH1 needs an urgent balance nerf. It is so strong it will alienate many new players unless they play it.

[hard gust]

LH1 is pretty crazy im not sure if enemy is using cheats or its just broken sometimes 😂

[upper citrus]

Nerf LH1 it might as well be the only gun in the game rn

[abstract harbor]

Game is poorly designed from the ground up, and they just keep adding more fluff that further imbalances the game. I'm just bored and annoyed.

[warm compass]

nerf LH1 rapidfire and damge

[rapid stream]

Nerf LH1 (and rpg)

[rough igloo]

Pls, for the love of sweet Jesus make cashout ranked again.

[ember perch]

I have 500+ hours in this game and I tried to place my faith in Embark and give this season a chance but Terminal Attack is absolutely horrendous.. and removing regular cashout and ranked cashout and pooling both players to world tour just makes for terribly played out games. Essentially removed ranked and forced people who like ranked to play with the casuals. I don't see why there couldn't just be ranked both but 🤷‍♂️

[green jacinth]

nerf lh1

[red knot]

Fix the overuse of the CPU please, literally played for 10 minutes and it just crashed

[maiden igloo]

Ranked cashout with TA Ranked system to focus teamplay + personal performance, not time played (like those playing 7 hours a day) 😮‍💨

[jagged cedar]

Lewis nerf put the gun on par with every other gun in the game (with exception to the lh1 and sa12). I understand that a balanced weapon is a little hard to comprehend for some heavy mains

[kind slate]

Why did you have to change the game?
Why was it hit the wall like that?
Lh1 is way too Op.
Unranked I'm thrown against first place in Ta...
Why is nothing being adjusted in Ta?
The maps are far too confusing for a mode like this.
Twitch Rivals in normal mode, also stupid.
If something has changed I will install it again. I played it every day, now it probably won't work anymore.

[graceful coral]

daily reminder to bring back ranked cashout

[icy kestrel]

#bringbackrankedcashout

[oak raven]

yeah guys bring back ranked cashout

[worldly scaffold]

Revert LH1 back to what it was. Also suggestion for Power Shift, after X ammount of time, if no-one has control of the platform, it starts to move slowly back to the center.

[boreal mirage]

i hope you guys will finally change some of the team colours in tournament. the most problematic currently is peach colour (or whatever it is called). when peach team is currently defending their cashout, their icon colour is too easy to confuse with orange, and when we are fighting against them (peach team) in-game, their outline looks like pink. it is too confusing for coordination.

and, also, i wish you'd change team colours in general for more standard, non-similar colours.

in final round, as teams usually change their colours, opposing team can be marked as red, you are already doing it in powershift & ta

[versed cloud]

Cap the amount of sonar grenades you can have for terminal attack to 1

[violet elbow]

please buff the LH1 clearly its not good enough

[wispy sand]

It's been 3 patches now, for the last time if this isn't a dead game STOP PUTTING US IN THE MATCH WE JUST LEFT. There is absolutely no reason a flag isn't put on the account to "not rejoin match previous left" if this game has as big a player base as been publicly stated this should never be an issue. Please and thank you.

[acoustic storm]

This might be a "controversial" take,
but I believe that the reduction of the effectiveness of barrels:

• Glitch 6m -> 3.5m
• Goo 2x6 -> 2x4
• Toxic 5m -> 3.5m
  might be a bad change.

Yes, gadgets should be picked to be used. It would be nice to see more goo grenades, etc. but I don't think that this change will really accomplish this. But I don't have the data to back this up.

A lot of people carry only offensive gadgets, except for heavies with bubbles and walls, and maybe the medium with defib and mobility.
This basically boils down to most people only using rather selfish gadgets and not utility heavy/defensive ones.

What this change actually is, is a buff to turteling. Now you require glitch grenades to punish turteling. The barrels themselves have way too little range to effectively disable this.

Besides, the Finals was always a game about creativity, at least in my opinion. Reducing this "spontanious" creativity, by requiring the player to carry a certain gadget in their loadout, just to counter a certain szenario, is in my opinion a bad move and takes away a lot of possible flexibility.

I do get the nerfs and believe that somewhat nerfing the carriables was ok, but the amount by wich they have been nerfed is quite a lot, making them only work when turteling and less viable offensively.
In a game that had such a good emphasis on mobility and a fast paced dynamic combat, this is the wrong direction, at least in my opinion.

Also, I don't get why they have removed the ability to get a minor speed boost when sliding into a jump pad, or carrying over your forward momentum. please give us back the mobility :(

[cosmic ether]

What the fuck are you on about, lewis was a pile of shit way before, people just took the time to learn the recoil enough to do relatively okay with it. It's funny that people think that an LMG should just lightly tickle you in the bum.

[broken geyser]

And a kobe pose emote💀🙏🏾

[plush ivy]

Can we at least please get an option to turn off the obnoxious sound effect of the constant TK spam? It drives me insane

[fleet swallow]

please remove the invulnerability when hitting someone with the winch claw, cause then you end up with scenarios like these where someone loses because the enemy that got clawed was invulnerable

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[tulip yacht]

Just get better and learn not every situation needs a riot shield<3

[quick coyote]

If LH1 doesn’t go into the grave this week I’m tweaking

[hasty cliff]

the lewis gun used to deal 25 damage per shot, that means if you hit all your shots you could've dealt a total of 1175dmg, enough to kill a full team of max health heavies with one mag. with its rate of fire it would take basically half a second to kill a light. the issue with the gun is that it was way too forgiving if you missed your shots because you could still kill an entire team without getting fucked over yourself, especially if you were being healed by some medium behind you.

[elder blade]

holy fuck please revert the LH1 it's actually demoralising to play this game atm

[cursive wadi]

It’s funny that people bring up realism to a game feedback discussion LOL. It turns out that a character with near infinite effective HP paired with really good DPS weapons is not balance at all for a game. Lewis gun recoil was never a drawback, shit was way too easy and forgiving. And the damage nerf is a long-awaited change.

[foggy orbit]

Braindead take, if you actually read the feedback, you would know that no matter how good you get with the shield, it is far too easily countered, the dual blades block bullets far more consistently and cover the entire front area of the person. I'm not saying the shield should be overpowered, but it should be good at it's niche (blocking bullets) and it doesn't, it's overshadowed by a newer weapon.

[upper crystal]

I wish I had whatever the person that balanced matchmaking was smoking. How the fuck do you match 5x platin with 35k+ RS vs 5 golds with 25k

[ionic rampart]

please stop matching me with players that i've blocked and reported good lord

[thorny socket]

A v9s skin with a can of Ospuze as the suppressor and weapon inspect or something will let you take the can off and drink it with liquid magically spawning in the container.
Another idea I had was the flame thrower but ospuze cans go on it

[rich girder]

the game is amazing, please bring back a better ranked mode

[slender oasis]

Devs I am so fucking pissed at you fuckers, how the ever loving FUCK did you not foresee this fucking shit!?!?!
I made it to the final fucking round, and the opposing team got the first cashout, alright.
BUT THEN THEY FUCKING PROCEEDED TO PLAY KEEP AWAY FOR THE ENTIRE FUCKING MATCH LENGTH! DO YOU KNOW HOW FUCKING FRUSTRATING THAT SHIT IS WHEN MY SKILLS CLEARLY COULD'VE KILLED THEM ALL AND GOTTEN THE POINT IF NOT FOR L FUCKING GRAPPLE!!! (disclaimer I did solo kill the entire team almost twice)

FIX. IT.

And here, so you fuckheads don't have to fucking think of a fix:
Make it so if a vault is opened there is a timer and if that cashbox is not put in within 3 minutes let's say, that that cashbox will reset into another openable vault.
You could just limit this to the final round of tourneys, or add it to the entirety and to Quck Cash to ensure no1 can troll like this again.
Not fair, not fun, very cheese. I main this game now, don't make me lose faith in this game.

[violet wing]

I sure hope so too
@elder blade@plush ivy The sound of both LH1 and TK are like pavlovian triggers of pure terror for me now. Hopefully if they slightly nerf those two I can sleep again.

[restive crow]

This game has turned into a contest of who can dash faster and spam the overpowered weapons, literally what am I supposed to do when I get obliterated in the blink of an eye

[strong sparrow]

Day 7 of asking to revert TA ranked (its a casual gamemode that is NOT suited for competition) and bring back cashout ranked (at least for S4 and onward)

[quick coyote]

"fuck" count = 11

[icy kestrel]

#bringbackrankedcashout

[rare rock]

any 'DING!!!' sound chills me to my bones

[somber hound]

if we dont get hot fixes then gg with closing soon

[deft vector]

Terminal attack sucks

[kind slate]

#bringbackrankedcashout

[fierce torrent]

add ruby

[drowsy grove]

Terminal attack rocks

[thick vale]

why are people saying add ruby

[cosmic ether]

If a whole entire team of max health heavies would allow themselves to be one magged by a single Lewis heavy then that's 1000% skill issue and GG's to that heavy, I'd want him on my team. If your medium is keeping you juiced it's a good strat, I honestly don't see the issue.

@cursive wadi No, but realism does count to some extent, would you design an LMG to shoot like a pistol? Come on now. Heavy's HP does not automatically make it OP fullstop.

[quick coyote]

Because the amount of people that stopped playing immediately upon hitting diamond was bad for the game. There was no difference in reward for D1 and D4 and it was an excruciating grind to diamond in the first place, so. In order to get the ruby skin, I think you have to FINISH the season in the top 500 instead of just hitting it once and quitting.

[low rock]

Give us more cosmetic face makeup body paint options. We got goth and christmas only.

[misty swift]

CAN A RAS EXPLAIN ME WHY I GET -600 RS WHEN I KILL 14 PEOPLE?

[graceful needle]

My mom needs a riot shield... 😏

[pearl mica]

Are you going to implement adjusted RS when playing against cheaters?!

[autumn sedge]

Revert LH1 buff

[desert lantern]

Bring back ranked cash out please 🙏 this is killing the game I know so many people quitting because of this

[elder blade]

@violet wing this game went from something I enjoyed getting a few rounds in every day to something I do not want to play anymore just based on 2 changes (LH1 and TA ranked)

@cosmic ether Lewis was in need of a slight nerf. It was easily the best heavy weapon after the shotgun nerf, it's in a good spot now, still the best heavy weapon

@obtuse wedge it really depends on playstyle. We would frequently run shotgun and lewis and steamroll people. Lewis was much more consistent for me as I can track much better than I can micro flick with the shotgun

[obsidian solar]

True, too bad that even when the situation needs it, it sucks, that's why i'm asking for the buff. Also i got to diamond shield only dw<3

[daring fossil]

people have been doing this since launch, but it's pretty rare. I'd say it's a valid tactic though even if it is annoying. that's the cool thing about cash out, there's different ways to win, and you can outplay a team of good aimers even with low kills.

[gleaming wadi]

Hi, I like this game, I’m new player but I got a question, is my first time I have a Play Station 5, I come from PC and I can’t use the keyboard and mouse, they will put it or no?

[raw jetty]

Quick question what do you do if the servers are not responding because I've tried multiple times to play and this thing pops up saying "server not responding; We cannot connect you to a match"

[lofty anvil]

7-0 ranked win, I had 10/0 KD, made all but 1 of the enemy team leave and I still only got
1,000 RS. 😭

[rain epoch]

Can we buff LH1?

I find it's hard to consistently 2 to 5 tap people across the map with iron sights. The 52 damage and no recoil is a nice start but a red dot or holo with maybe a red laser would be nice for hip fire.

With this change we'd see all 24 players playing light in world tour instead of 22 out of 24

[royal gust]

I despise Overwatch, but the finals just got less fun than overwatch because TA is even worse

[quick coyote]

💀

[tulip yacht]

Like i said previously,just get better. The riot shield is a niche weapon that doesnt need to be used in every situation and infact its really good right now because of all the light spam going on. It really is that simple to use yall just get mad when yall get killed 3 times in a row and complain "this weapon is trash" when the shield is meant for a more passive style and less aggressive. Also its pretty good at blocking bullets idk what your on about💀dont complain because people can counter you tf?

[obtuse wedge]

not saying Lewis is a worse weapon in S2, but actually shotgun has always been the best weapon in H.
and M60 doesnt deserve a damage nerf as ive had seen maybe 1 out of 20 matches where a H will use M60, it was never strong and suppose to be slightly better than Lewis if they dont nerf it, now its going straight down again (altho u could say part of the reason that no one use it was because of the terrible iron sight but still).

[quick coyote]

terminal does kinda suck for ranked it’s fine as a stand alone mode but what really matters is that monkey mask that I’ve been pushing it be great with all the bamboo trees in Kyoto I could just sit there with a bow and arrow in a lil monke mask

[digital plover]

Last message before all the new players come here. But take away terminal attack from rank. I'm tired of this dog poo poo game mode. No balance and it'sa spit in the face of your core audience. I feel dumb for even spending 150$ on this game right now. Ok I'll be positive when the new people join the server :)

[limpid vigil]

The game is an unbalanced mess. Here are my suggestions:

1: Switch TA and Cashout in Ranked and World Tour. They are in the wrong gamemodes.
2: Balance Heavy. (Some overpowered and others underpowered/nerfed)
-New Grapple is uncombatable. In most instances heavies can insta-kill enemies with 0 punishment.
-RPG needs to be nerfed for giving and recieving damage
3: Rework Medium. There is abolsutely no point in playing besides the healing.
-Guns do nothing compared to the other classes. Plays like a COD-like but does less in a high damage game like the finals.
4: Nerf Light Sniper. Makes TA unplayable and cashout in the new map.
5. Fix Terminal Attack
-1 Sonar grenade per person
-Remove Light Sniper (people can play medium pistol if they want that range, its unfair in the new map)

[fluid raptor]

yall need to optimize kyoto lmao. i have half the fps i usually have, to a point where it's literally unfun to play. and i have a pretty damn expensive laptop and pc, on both i struggle to have 50 fps consistantly
(not on every map variant though, platforms and powershift are absolutely horrible)

[plain kindle]

Nobody's gonna play world tour if world tour is TA

[errant orchid]

true but they need to make it so ranked isnt TA

[foggy orbit]

You're literally just coping lol

[gray flare]

just played another game of world tour with nine out of twelve players running light, 6 LH1 2 recurve bow and one with throwing knives. i spent almost the entire match sonar detected

[polar ermine]

Real quick, when you get that feedback form, where's the option for 'dumb fucking balance, fire the DEI who changed the bodyshot damage of the LH1 to incentivise headshots', where's that option? I can't find it. so this is like month 5 of me saying, fire the idiots in charge of balance. it's beyond a fkin joke at this point

[spark shard]

And now, what? we have to wait the whole season to see lh1 nerf? mate, lh1 is being the most OP gun since the beginning of time... who is testing this? The weapon is totally broken.

[placid jolt]

Insane glitch that needs to be patched, unsure what caused it but I have clips to prove one of my opponents was illuminated throughout the whole game, my whole team could see this player from across the map for the whole 10 minute game.

[glacial knot]

Every TA ranked battle only light class with lh1 and scanner hahahhhaha

[somber hound]

embark know how to lose player... they wanna kill this game asap

[tame crag]

The spears AOE attack is really inconsistent, and sometimes feels like it does lots of damage, and other times doesn’t hit the enemy at all.

[candid flower]

Plz bring back cashout

[haughty pebble]

Ranked TA is just filled with 5 stacks of LH1 and Sonars have 10 wall jack grenades on one team is absurd they need to change it from 2 sonar grenades to one and revert the LH1 back to what it was last season it was already extremely viable and probably still the best weapon in the game if you knew how to use now anyone can pick it up with sonar, thermal, invisibility and just shred people it takes no skill and this is coming from someone who is currently top 10 in the world in TA I had fun at first but now I’ve grown to resent this game mode and the meta of ratting

[slender oasis]

Not the ENTIRE FUCKING MATCH. It's exploiting and unfair. Especially against melee users. Hence the added timer as it would take multitudes of skill to do so repeatedly.

[graceful crest]

I need more access to the color blind setting. Out game colors are cool. ingame my eyes are cooked. Maybe if I could play with my Ui more, that would be cool.

[cold bolt]

reminder to do the in game survey regarding TA (if it's not showing for you in-game then do the direct link in browser here: https://survey.alchemer.eu/s3/90720848/Discovery-Patch-3-0-In-Game&surveyid=alMjQ8tms02WStp-Q9eB8Q&servername=)

oh wtf it's closed now lol

maybe they only want ppl to do it in game to prevent botting (or it's really closed already which be dumb), idk

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@slender oasis ngl if the skill gap between you and other team is so wide that they can do that to you, you just deserve it

[kind slate]

This survey is not accepting additional responses at this time. Thank You!

[daring fossil]

I don't see how running away and being good with movement and clearing the map quickly is exploiting. If they are in first place and they can win the game by holding the cash box for 7 minutes, seems like a valid tactic to win the game, I don't see that as unfair just because your team is unable to catch him.

@graceful crest agreed, a couple patches ago they updated some UI and fonts and colors and it looks horrible and bright now

[quick coyote]

dang only open for a few hours what the heck

[latent meteor]

this shit is insane

[lavish shard]

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam TK bow
Nerf stungun
Nerf Rpg claw
Reduce recoil lewis
Buff time deployement turret no in ranked
Light need survivality not damage buff

[thorny socket]

nerf people who kill me

[lofty gust]

The Healing Beam did not get a level 8 skin

[topaz swallow]

OPTIMIZATION PATCH 👏 OPTIMIZATION PATCH 👏 OPTIMIZATION PATCH 👏 OPTIMIZATION PATCH 👏 OPTIMIZATION PATCH 👏 OPTIMIZATION PATCH 👏 OPTIMIZATION PATCH 👏 OPTIMIZATION PATCH 👏
(your game runs like shit for a "competitive shooter". i feel like a fucking snail stuck in glue trying to flick in this.)

[tulip yacht]

Im coping because im just good with thw riot shield and know how to use it? Ok bud💀 found the person who wanted light to be nerfed last season

[paper marlin]

please add another rank to ranked called Finalist, the games name directly refers to that rank, you can keep ruby and make finalist the top 500-750, but let anyone reach ruby with the work of course, also the ranked rewards are soo weak they dont feel much rewarding at all, i want something I can show off to everyone in the game not a weapon skin for a gun I dont use. also TA IS NOT GOOD

[wheat ridge]

plz make the game great again and put back the real ranked, u cut the only thing was top on ur game

[azure spire]

Lewis gun you will be missed.. still hoping they revert that nerf even just a little bit. Its so shit now. Shotguns and sledge is the only way to go on heavy nowadays

[zealous mural]

Loaded into tournament without a teammate>>> you can leave without penalty>> you are in the menu>>>> are you sure you wanna leave?>>>>> YOU'VE BEEN SUSPENDED FOR 10 MINS FOR LEAVING THE GAME. Are you ok? what the actual fuck is this

[fossil fable]

womp womp

[north spruce]

womp womp

[unreal dragon]

weapons stop working mid game bro why

[quick coyote]

LMGs need a buff. What’s broken on heavy is the utility. Not the guns

[rain kettle]

[still yoke]

Add a lootbox system where every 10 games you earn 1 lootbox and inside is 1 piece of clothing or a gun camo and you could still sell really good skins and bundles in shop still but giving players a reason to grind the game is a good idea and you guys make good cosmetics even the free the stuff is really good

[wispy latch]

I leave everytime if I see a whole team with lights makes no more sense to play against meta nerds

[abstract harbor]

Game is not fun. Balance keeps getting worse. Four team modes DO NOT WORK. Game is a non-stop sweatfest of stupid shit. I'm out. Uninstalling.

[worldly scaffold]

I think explosive bullets would just be better, and wall penetration, LH1 not broken enough.

[vapid pine]

Bring back ranked cashout

[obtuse stratus]

I beg

[lofty anvil]

womp womp get good

[granite frost]

I think some renamings of ranking tiers and possibly additional ranks that are more unique to the Finals would be cool and add more grind and just some extra flavour to the game's vibe.

Here's just some ideas

• Rename all #1 ranks to 'Challenger' i.e. "Gold Challenger, Diamond Challenger etc". This could be any word tbh, but something extra that would break the monotony of basic numbering.

• Give Ruby its own rank tier i.e. Ruby 3, Ruby 2, Ruby Challenger

• Rename the top 500 rank to "Victors" and make it a cool design not limited to a colour or gemstone.

Obviously these are just showerthoughts and would need further discussion and refinement, but so many games use the same old Bronze - Diamond ranking system and it's super generic and not special to the Finals. And while I agree with the saying "if it works don't fix it" I think just renaming of some ranks could make the Finals ranks more unique and stand out more from other games.

[tame bronze]

Yall should let us try the new weapon skins in the practice range

[grave heart]

need helo

[void rapids]

I love how they added the “game abort” mechanic if someone leaves round 1, as it’s unfair and un fun if someone leaves a team out numbered but I have had it happen 3 games in a row.

I’m trying to give this dog crap mode a chance and it’s almost like the game doesn’t even want me to.

[broken spoke]

also add throwing knives to the list but all of what you said is true. also need to bring back melee punch when using Mesh on heavy

[lavish shard]

TK is throwing knife bro ❤
Most op Weapon whit lh1

[glad star]

Have the devs even said anything about the overwhelming backlash to Terminal Attack?

[glacial knot]

Every TA ranked battle 5 lights 5 lh1 and 10 sonar, you rush the map so fast. If someone play another class he has no chance.

[sage vector]

They shouldnt say anything. Just change it back to cashout

[spring zodiac]

Lfg TA atleast diamond last season

[ruby trench]

Can we remove every gun but the lh1? I'm sick of my teamates throwing by not picking lh1. And the devs wont ban them, even though I made contless support tickets.

[plain lotus]

So you want broken utility and broken guns, got it.

[violet matrix]

the right click of the double swords should have a cooldown

[stark notch]

@cosmic ether no point to argue with them They're probably light mains that walk in a straight line away from their team and get shit on

The main issue of the lewis was the damage, but the recoil change is the absolute worst. It loses range fights against medium and lights and how does a mp5 (a smg) out range a lmg lmfao. I bet they think the m60 needed a nerf too when it was absolutely trash

We can see the devs don't know what they're doing with balances by looking at the lh1 and throwing knives buffs and the fact they nerfed the burst pistol lol

[unreal dragon]

Too long to load into a game

[vague tide]

I'm not crazy for thinking HEAVY is very weak this update? Right?

[restive crescent]

REMOVE TA FROM RANKED

[golden rock]

Ok I finally got some time to play the game after a break during the start of the season so I can give some initial feedback. (1/2)

The weapons: They are all great in concept and feel.

I love the bow even tho I suck with it and it is better than I expected in some areas (arrow arc, damage draw speed) and worse in some (shooting speed with just tapping), overall a good weapon.

The spear ended up as a surprising favorite, I like it better than the hammer it pairs great with the winch claw and it kills so fast. The right click is not great but it is situationally good, there are some problems with hit registration too so there is room for improvement.

Dual blades feel great, when they work and the reflect didn't end up as barrier that deflects everything, which is good and it is easy enough to counter. However if I was to point to any weapon being a bit off it would be them. They do kill fast enough, but get outdamaged by heavies, which is under stable. I don't really know how they could be changed to feel better and not be suddenly overpowered, they seem like a hard to balance weapon.

The map: Oh my god the map. It is so good, one of the best maps I have played in any game, easily. Buildings have incredible rotation spots, everything is multilayered it is not too open or too closed off, it is so varied from cashout to cashout and positioning of jump pads and ziplines is incredible.

The modes: Hot take (possibly, at least it seems so), 90% great decisions.

World Tour is amazing, the way it tracks rank is so much better now and makes the entire experience feel like an actual e-sports event with leagues all over the world, with people getting points to be able to compete in the world championships. (and we get paid money, like how cool is that in both the free stuff aspect and the "we getting sponsored to play")

Ranked TA is a good choice for ranked as the mode is much more suited to the traditional ranked expirience and easier to balance in that regard.

[brittle obsidian]

heavy is super situational in ranked with the current meta

[errant orchid]

TA is not good in ranked mode 💀 its so unbalanced atm and not having a full team when you play is terrible since you get randoms

[real saffron]

maybe add a special power weapon box.. it takes the same time to unlock as a cashout so you have the choice get 1 power weapon for 1 member of the team but risk loosing entire cashout so your team is behind , maybe limited ammo / timer once you have picked up or you loose if you wipe

[void blade]

Anyone been getting too many lh1 users in your lobby? React if so, been getting way to many

[quick coyote]

Which means nerf the broken utility, you’re a rock lol

[proud trench]

you cant react to meassages in this channel

[mental fulcrum]

Can we get more Destructive Damage from the Heavy Grenade Launcher????

[marble pendant]

are the game servers down?

[modern rivet]

yeah i cant get in either

[tulip spoke]

IT WORKS AGAINNNN

[waxen jacinth]

The turret on the medium class is super buggy

[hallow stump]

Fuck this ranked garbage system. Enemy team had 1 cheater who carried their team who were all on placement matches. We lost 1300!!!!! fucking points! Im done with this game until devs does something about this crappy system, and get a decent anti cheat system in place. This is a fucking waste of everyones time

[lofty anvil]

im in but maybe thats because im in a game currently

[grave sierra]

idk when this happened, but i noticed in S3, teammates that are in VC when you aren't, don't show the VC icon in their names anymore unless you join voice, in which case it will accurately show who is using voice or not. I don't use mic and solo q, but i usually join voice when i notice people are using them, sometimes i dont notice im not in vc, and i cant see if my teammates are using vc, which is a problem now that TA and world tour are the 'main' modes now. Don't like this change if it's intentional.

[violet elbow]

buff the LH1 clearly its not good enough already

[thorn elbow]

REMINDER

• BRING BACK RANKED CASHOUT

[severe scaffold]

TA isn't terrible, it's just like Search and Destroy imo.

[elfin patio]

I second this

[true zinc]

i can launch game but cant connect. WHAT THE HECK BRO

[merry totem]

No, TA isn't terrible, but I prob do agree with the people that say without some more changes to it, the format doesn't really suit The Finals. For the sake of the game's success, though, I'm hoping more people will get used to it and even learn to love it.

[broken spoke]

It is terrible when you have a whole team of lights rushing the player instead of playing objective as if it was tdm

[strong escarp]

#removeTA

[coarse escarp]

When is the L1 nerf comming?

[raven gale]

That’s a strategy though. You need to be able to adapt and bait the push out.

[edgy lotus]

okay i understand the motivation but the only part of TA they need to remove is RANKED TA. regular TA was perfectly fine, and the hashtag is getting annoying

[lavish shard]

Nerf Lh1
Nerf spam throwing knife/bow
Nerf stungun
Nerf Rpg claw+melee
Reduce recoil lewis
Buff time deployement turret no in ranked
Light need survivality not damage buff

[golden rock]

The feedback rambling (2/2)

The biggest problems with TA ranked are, to me, The current light domination, but that seems like a balance problem (@errant orchid, let people finish in the future smh my head), and the lack of heal beam and defib.

The heal beam and defib are both part of the game and it seems wierd to me that they are left out. I know they would be too op to put as in, but I feel like not letting the heal beam recharge and heal during combat would be sufficient and defib should just have a window you can revive someone after they die, so you have to commit or you are playing with a gadget less.

The 10% that is the bad decision is that there is no casual Cashout, as in the 1 round version, since if people want to just play a quick round of cashout their only option is to play world tour and hope they loose which sucks.

As for the balancing:

I feel like LH1 is strong, potentially too strong. It seems like the top level lobbies are dominated by it, from what I have seen and the buff, while not changing much, did put it in the spotlight again and 5-stacks of lights running with it killing everyone in ranked will not be a good expirience in the long run.

CL-40 nerf was deserved and it is the nerf it needed as its strenght was in finishing off lighly damaged enemies (and thank you for the self damage nerf <3).

The glitch rework seems great, but I have not played with it too much but it feels clear on the receiving end. It does the job well.

Lewis got what it deserved and I am glad you didn't just leave M60 as it was, as that would just fill the void lewis left. Now that the lkms aren't as good at long range the RPG suddenly doesn't feel as oppressive either.

The rest of the changes I can sum up by saying: They make the weapons feel better and that is always a plus, but so much changed that it is hard to tell if it was too much either way.

Edit: Oh right, also the turret change is 10/10

[stuck sentinel]

Nerd Stungun?!? Wtf

[spare sluice]

SO ANSWER ME THIS:
I play a full match of TA, I finish the match, then it takes me back to the main menu, HOWEVER, it says RECONNECT & LEAVE GAME. So I reconnect, and it takes me to the end of match results screen, I do this 3 times. THEN, I press leave game, AND LOW AND BEHOLD, I get suspended! HOW?!

Sensational work this season, Embark! 😏👌🏾

[flat parrot]

Are severs down rn?

[plain lotus]

And your clueless, go play call of duty with your low ttk "NeEd GuNpLaY tO WiN FiGhTs" stop bringing low IQ into a unique game

[glacial compass]

being thrown out to menu when trying to connect to a new match.

[old viper]

guys are servers broken????

[astral dune]

Please buff the CL-40. It feels so bad now. :(

[quick coyote]

As you have done with Defib, it's worth considering removing Thermal Vision from Ranked. It completely breaks the mode having an NV Gadget. I would even go as far as removing Cloaking Device too.

[thorn lark]

Disable penalty when disconnecting from match due to server issues rather than player side. i LOVE getting suspensions due to server errors

[feral carbon]

feedback survey was so nice to see ngl

[glossy jasper]

I got kicked from world tournament in the final round and cant even reconnect
i got a timeout and didnt earn any points

[tacit patrol]

I am watching the live stream but it is so hard to follow because:

Team colors change every time they switch povs.

In tournaments like these, teams should have consistent colors across streams to make it easier to follow.

[rough igloo]

Nerf LH1. It didn't need double buff

[gray wharf]

@quick coyote @dense niche hey there is was hopping to get a refund on the starting pack i bought is it possible? Thanks you

[dense niche]

Hey friend, this is not really the channel for that, but your best bet on possibly achieving the refund is through support https://id.embark.games/support

[severe scaffold]

Those people who think it's TDM need to play something else like PowerShift. But I agree Tom, it isn't really the best for the play style of The FInals, what other game mode do you think would be best?

[high wing]

holy shit the stream event is horrible with no spectator mode just restreaming streamers stream

[flat bronze]

Nerf bow ? Tf, throwing knives and lh1 need nerf, stungun and bow do not

[ancient heron]

the event itself is good, but yeah having to view it through the streamers' streams is kinda surprising

[quick coyote]

powershift kinda annoying with all these lights

[quick coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

[lavish shard]

Nerf TK and lh1 its a good start

[gray stratus]

is there a way to set up my controller stick setup to southpaw in the game settings? that's my controller setup. I would like to play the game but i'm not able to go southpaw.

[pseudo surge]

Game crashing more frequently also bring back cashout ranked

[paper gale]

They took reactions away in this channel now too lol, player base speaking out loud for cashout ranked, and it'll keep being said (waiting for my 30 min cooldown now)

[runic burrow]

or they can just revert back to cash out which was the identity of the finals before they decided to randomly change it.

[chilly wigeon]

TA is the worst possible gamemode they could have made for this game sense.... Guns dont 1 tap like in ANY other 5v5 competative shooters

[olive fulcrum]

Twitch Rivals is playing Cashout because nobody wants to Watch OR Play TA competitively. It would be a waste of The Finals to do so.

[brittle harness]

So you created a poll and I can't even respond since its already closed? are you kidding?

[jade trail]

Haven't had a single full lobby of world tour today (either my team or enemy). Despite the leave game message saying "you will not be penalized for leaving because another teammate left already", I now have a 1hr suspension for leaving after both my other teammates left. I played 2 games 2v3 before this one. Had less leavers in ranked cashout. World tour just feels like quickplay without a backfill

[slender oasis]

Literally go fuck yourself you don't see the inplimencations. I only didn't fucking cap them bc I literally was dual blades and the times I did catch them I killed the fucking team. Not a skill issue when they exploited holding the fucking box and my team is close ranged, don't justify cheating bc they can do that the entire final round as it is not the objective and is illegitimate means of winning. I can understand to hold off a cashout starting for a minute or two, but they were intentional, and it was only my team and theirs. No way to catch up to them when I have 0 fucking movement.
Fuck anyone else who woop woop'd me, I know my shit and that aint intentional game design.
🖕

[past phoenix]

yes they know

[sinful pilot]

To CM and publicity team. PLEASE look the comments at Twitch Rivals. We all wanted and expected June and Scotty voices. I'm sure there are ways, even if they are IA voices they are generated from a real voice. I really would love a future event with Scotty and June as Casters

[daring fossil]

if it wasn't intentional they would have fixed it in the beta when people first complained about it. I've had it happen to me twice in 1300 hours and we stopped it and got the cash box both times. Just because you picked the wrong class doesn't make it cheating lol, what the actual fuck.

[limpid frost]

I wish cash out mode was rolled back this season playing TA mode for 3 months seems terrible

[ruby brook]

you get 12+ mins after the first cashout to chase em down if you cant get them for that long sounds like a u problem

[olive wraith]

Love it when I have to Alt+F4 in game becasue my screen is stuck on the loading screen just to reboot the game to find I was booted and cant reconnect.
Good ranked mode, thanks devs.

[woven meadow]

Can you guys reintroduce Cashout as a casual gamemode? I oftentimes don't want to play Quick Cash as it's too pub-shootery and not very strategy based and also don't want to play ranked alone ever.

[crystal umbra]

HHM still meta. Pls nerf.

[west heart]

Stuck on loading screen randomly, either booting into a game or mid round of a ranked game.
I have to close the app then reconnect otherwise I get a suspension :/ (PS5)

[half owl]

Cashout is bad for competitive but TA is not answer.
How about fix cashout

make ban picking, adding time when stealing etc...

[drowsy vector]

TA ranked is almost impossible without a 5 stack. I’m mostly duo queuing, and get the worst of the worst teammates most of the time and going against absolute beasts (and some aimbotters)

[sweet isle]

Shush bud

[stark notch]

interesting twitch rivals isnt using the NEWLY IMPROVED RANKED TERMINAL ATTACK and Kyoto isn't in the map pool. seems like they know both are 🐶 💩 ......🤔

@violet elbow
visually its a good map but not gameplay wise. too much foliage that blocks view and bullets. too many hidey holes for people to run away and hide, the map is too big, too much verticality, and the moving platforms circle around half the map lol. dont forget the FPS drops

[timber harbor]

hey oscar i know you got like twitch rivals and all that going on but can yall add a water gun

[violet elbow]

Kyoto is a good cashout map