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pseudo relic
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Cap your entire text bro.

half owl
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I wanna play arc raiders now

queen birch
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Please do not do any huge and bad mistake like that and keep the ranked mode the same at it is

shrewd tundra
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its called caring, people have their own opinions on the game and what should be changed, in the end its up to embark to decide and they are taking a very sketchy path

hardy bridge
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Change back ranked to cashout

valid prism
torpid granite
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do not change the ranked mode. your whole game is created around cashout. your maps are not built for terminal attack. its a good game mode to chillout on, but terminal does not run well on the maps and youll be completely changing the games identity

frosty swallow
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idk what embark are doing tbh. they have the dedicated playerbase who enjoy this game and play it aa lot, and they are just going: Nope, we are making the worst gamemode in the game the new ranked mode :/ sorry

merry ivy
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Please donā€™t abandon your main game mode already

twin slate
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@rare spear @pearl kiln @dense gulch Please do not remove Ranked Cashout, it is better than Terminal Attack + Its also the main point of the game....
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eager gyro
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its also the most competitive gamemode and we loved it @dense gulch

gray pawn
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Well after 400+ Hours adn $200 invested into your game i feel in Season3 will be the end for you, Nicest way too say you have truely ruined what actually makes The Finals unique and different from all the rest off the game out their, Now you done the stupidest thing any game company can do by making Terminal Attack the main focus off the game. You will never compete to the top games like CS2/Valorant/RS6 but if you wanna lose 99.9% off you player base because of this dumb descion go ahead as im surely your already aware you are alredy struggling with a player base as it stand. Then you go and do a publicty stunt like this šŸ˜‚ Well played you truthly just screwed yourselves in the ass!. RIP The Finals

lament depot
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terminal attack as ranked is a fantastic idea. dont listen to the haters. they will "boycott" for one or two days and then come crawling back regardless.

violet vigil
grave yarrow
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If people want to keep complaining, remove ranked in general

desert fern
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It's late at night but I want to get this off my chest
I LOVE THE FINALS and I love Embark even more with what they have done with the game so far.
But what I have been recently informed about the upcoming changes has broken my heart and made me upset. It seems like The Finals has lost its identity. I play this game because of its competitive tournament style game show it's what keeps me hooked not a CSGO ripoff. Not saying Terminal Attack is bad I like it but The Finals is a tournament game show and removing that from the main ranked mode is heartbreaking. I really hope Embark listens to us and dosent force players who play The Finals for its unique world and gameplay to have to play another 5v5 like what every other company has been pushing out.
Sorry about this long rant I really love the game and want it to grow but I don't believe this is the way. I hope some changes come so we don't lose The Finals we all love <3

vast obsidian
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Hahaha, I don't know who made the decision to give up the core of the game to build a ladder for the blasting mode

wind copper
wary hedge
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the whole reason why i started to play this game was because of cashout game mode, felt so original. embark if anything make them both have its own ranked or combine them so we can pick and choose counting towards one rank

signal basin
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Great game with pathetic balance and poor choice update. I don't know what you're taking but... WTF I hope a great buff for Light class and some nerf for M / H because baiting on melee gameplay with light ? Seriously ?!

And again, what happen to the sound in this game ?!!!

jagged cedar
dim tangle
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CAN YOU REACH THE TERMINALS

rough herald
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don't just remove rank mode that i grain for so long for dude, even worst you replace it with something i ddon't enjoy

**Suggestion **
let there be 2 rank mode with separate leader board

odd ibex
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Add chainsaw for heavy with a charging attack and a heavy swing attack
Add kusarigama to medium,itā€™s got chain and blade for range melee

Make rpg have a laser sight and make it very visible so we can prepare to deal with it and u have to aim down sight to fire so itā€™s balanced

How about a healing dart for lights as a gadget with a little boost of health so this will make light a bit more useful in ranked and itā€™s not auto-aim healing beam plus u have to be accurate IT GIVES MORE HEALTH WHEN TEAMMATE HEALTH LOW and have grapple hook stuck to walls whenever for ambush and improve grapple hook inertia physics for players.

Give dagger a downwards thrust with 80-100 damage depending on how high u charge it when falling.

Add automatic crossbow for heavy and have it climbable when stuck to walls.

Have different game balance for causal and ranked causes different audience causes back and forth balances.

We have problem with dagger hit register as it only work after dash finishes but people run away at the last moment,just make it work a few milliseconds earlier.

pearl mica
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The game is called THE FINALS.

You are changing the entire identity of the game with move to Terminal Attack. It and the damage mechanics is what set this game apart from all the others. How can this game be called The Finals next season?

CAN YOU REACH THE TERMINALS

zealous lark
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Well... I think the decision about switching to TA came from nexon to boost sales. Its the only logical answer for me to absolutly switch player base. I myself am an example of a player, who dont like cs-like games, and love cashout mode. Im also competetive, so making this change let me no more reason to play this game. Im sure that im not the only one out here. Hope devs calculated the numbers right. If so, good for then. And anyway, bad for me.

shut hamlet
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Add crack cocaine to the game.

slate urchin
acoustic coyote
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i think ranke changes will be good. There are 2 ranked modes now kind of. World tour and TA ranked . Maybe il get my friends from Valorant to play Finals. šŸ‘

queen cloud
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S3 is probably uninstall for me.
I feel like the devs are completely out of touch. Ranked terminal attack?!
Double swords that block bullets and a bunch more melee stuff, almost feels like a first person fighting game instead of a first person shooter.

stray rampart
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Please consider changing the name to this. It's much more suitable for S3

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weary crescent
hardy fractal
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Hey, I recently have big freeze on the game and I don't know why it pretty random. i have a realy good connection and the finals is the only game with this behaviour. I think its a hardware problem or some settings. I have a 3700X and a rtx 3070 so should not have any issue. :/

tight bison
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heady pecan
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Terminal attack definitely fits the finals but not enough to be THE ranked mode. I like it as a casual and maybe a separate ranked mode but switching up the MAIN ranked mode is crazy. Maybe the world tours thing will be a good change, too early to know fs. Not uninstalling the game tho not that big of a deal lmao

tiny fiber
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100% agree Terminal Attack should not be the only ranked mode

foggy ginkgo
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Please dont make terminal the ONLY ranked mode I personally never touched it but i did olay a crap ton of ranked donā€™t know if ill be doing that now it shouldnt be the only ranked game mode. I swear never seen a game literally change their ranked mode barely 3 seasons in on a game mode that was only in for one season

mental hatch
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why will there be so many melee weapons in a shooter? it absolutely awful

dull moth
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TA can be ranked mode but please do not remove cash out

crystal umbra
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I HOPE YOU SEE THIS OSCARRRRā€¼ļø

Honestly... I'm not happy. I don't want to have to grind out a game mode I don't like for diamond weapons.

If I could get it another way i -as competitive as I am - would be willing to put down ranked and just enjoy the game otherwise...

I litterally only have like 5 games of terminal attack... Or less.

I understand the devs are trying to manage multiple expectations but I'd like to make clear that I am one of the players who will be reluctantly playing ranked this season until changes are either made to the game mode Terminal Attack or what game modes are in rotation.

Terminal Attack isn't bad. But it's not The Finals.

I'll give a pass if there was some sort of game mode rotation but this ain't it y'all.

Making the primary game mode feel like a side thought gets me salty. I better really see inches of polish for World Tour and I better actually like the cosmetics...

I'm seriously not going to like playing terminal attack for my diamonds.

agile osprey
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Guys, I really love your game, and I'm just begging you. Leave the ranking mode as it is at the moment. Or make a choice between the TA and RT rank modes. Your main feature was to "make a shooter unlike anything else", but instead you are making a new cs go.

The money withdrawal mode is great, and unlike anything else, it is because of this mode that your game is so loved.. namaheart

And in the end, the game is about the finals, where there is no final round. Isn't that absurd?

blissful onyx
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seriously appreciate these criticizes over people who just telling they gonna quit the game every 5 minutes because of a change in ranked mode.

cinder obsidian
haughty mica
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instead of improving cashout, youā€™re bringing the mode that doesnā€™t fit the game at all since the first appearance

i just rewatched first trailers from closed alpha and beta and it shows the pure chaos and originality of cashout mode

yet you put a s&d mode from hundreds of other games to became another organic game

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proven ibex
thick bramble
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Please don't replace ranked with terminal attack. I play the finals because the ranked mode is not just another 5v5 death deathmatch. It's the whole identity of this game.

pale fossil
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DONT MAKE TA RANKED

stuck forum
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Just a reminder to all that we either support the game, or we kill it. Ranked TA WILL have a different play style than casual. Iā€™m willing to stick around for another season, I think yā€™all should too. I canā€™t imagine they made this decision without the data to back it up.

peak stratus
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Don't make TA the ranked game mode please, it's not fun

jovial bane
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Make Cashout Ranked back to the original the finals ranked with the 4 brackets leading to the finals so that you could get to round 4 again

upbeat urchin
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Please dont put ranked terminal attack as the only mode. your have to leave cashout as ranked in parallel. I want to play cash out tournaments because I'm playing the finals, not counterstrike. Please just find ways to improve cashout mode try new things but not that

tired girder
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Please don't make TA the only ranked mode. I only play ranked, and don't enjoy TA

low stump
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#KEEPCASHOUTRANKED

violet sparrow
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Changing the ranked mode like this feels like a betrayal ngl

quick coyote
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This is a bad time to experiment and divide the community when the main focus felt like getting others to hop on and play the game.

Iā€™m sure the change can be reverted promptly.

And for the community, please be conscious of your actions / understandable anger and do not review bomb over a mistake

final robin
eager gyro
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Subject: Keeping Cashout Ranked in the Finals

Dear Embark,

I wanted to bring to your attention the importance of maintaining Cashout Ranked matches instead of transitioning to Terminal Attack Ranked.

Cashout Ranked has been a fundamental aspect of this competition, offering a unique blend of strategy, resource management, and tactical decision-making. Its popularity among participants and spectators alike cannot be understated. The dynamic nature of Cashout Ranked ensures that every move counts and allows for a wide range of strategic approaches, keeping the gameplay fresh and engaging.

Transitioning to Terminal Attack Ranked at this stage would not only disrupt the flow of the competition but also risk alienating the dedicated community that has embraced Cashout Ranked. It's essential to prioritize the enjoyment and satisfaction of both players and viewers, and Cashout Ranked has consistently delivered on these fronts.

Furthermore, maintaining Cashout Ranked for the finals honors the efforts and dedication of the competitors who have trained and prepared extensively within this format. It would be unfair to suddenly change the rules of engagement at this crucial stage of the competition.

I urge you to consider the broader implications of this decision and to prioritize the integrity and enjoyment of the finals by keeping Cashout Ranked intact. Doing so will ensure a fair and exciting conclusion to what has been an exceptional competition thus far.

Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to witnessing a thrilling finals experience.

violet elbow
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keep cashout ranked, DO NOT change this to terminal attack, please actually listen to your comp/ranked community

lament depot
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Dear Embark, make terminal attack ranked like you plan to. these people dont know what theyre talking about.

slow sentinel
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Terminal attack sucks

stark venture
sharp briar
ashen stream
twin slate
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Subject: Keeping Cashout Ranked in the Finals

Dear Embark,

I wanted to bring to your attention the importance of maintaining Cashout Ranked matches instead of transitioning to Terminal Attack Ranked.

Cashout Ranked has been a fundamental aspect of this competition, offering a unique blend of strategy, resource management, and tactical decision-making. Its popularity among participants and spectators alike cannot be understated. The dynamic nature of Cashout Ranked ensures that every move counts and allows for a wide range of strategic approaches, keeping the gameplay fresh and engaging.

Transitioning to Terminal Attack Ranked at this stage would not only disrupt the flow of the competition but also risk alienating the dedicated community that has embraced Cashout Ranked. It's essential to prioritize the enjoyment and satisfaction of both players and viewers, and Cashout Ranked has consistently delivered on these fronts.

Furthermore, maintaining Cashout Ranked for the finals honors the efforts and dedication of the competitors who have trained and prepared extensively within this format. It would be unfair to suddenly change the rules of engagement at this crucial stage of the competition.

I urge you to consider the broader implications of this decision and to prioritize the integrity and enjoyment of the finals by keeping Cashout Ranked intact. Doing so will ensure a fair and exciting conclusion to what has been an exceptional competition thus far.

Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to witnessing a thrilling finals experience. @near cosmos

final shore
gleaming dragon
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Embark your removing the thing that made THE FINALS ranked different then any other game

copper holly
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Please bro I love cashout so much Iā€™ve never seen such perfectly executed fast paced strategy mode. I understand that this is to bring in new players, but find a way to do so without destroying what us die hard fans love

foggy ginkgo
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Soooo is the game gonna change its name from The Finals too? Cuz i dont get why its named that atp its gonna end up having nothing to do with it. What are we reaching the finals inā€¦ Terminal haha. Its a joke. Your literally removing what made The Finals THE FINALS

chrome merlin
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@near cosmos sorry for the pin, I am not sure who to pin but next season I might like to purchase coins in the store but recently i got banned just after doing so (bought coins for the first time, left game in lobby for 30 min, come back and was banned for one week. ) any way to make sure this does not happen again ?

inland fractal
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Hey embark team like the rest of the playerbase I am here complaining about removing cash out comp. me and my friends only play comp together once a day after our jobs and we finally had a refreshing game to play but now the only game mode we enjoyed will be removed please reconsider we know you listen the fan base so please listen like you always did!šŸ˜”

icy kestrel
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Guys please dont turn ranked into terminal attack...... 400 Hours into the game at Diamond 3 im so sad.......feels like ranked is over.....

thick sorrel
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Why not Banked It Ranked?

mortal notch
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#solobankitforranked

austere anvil
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The only reason that kept me Playing the finals was becuz its nothing like cs go and valo , but thats gone and im gone too bye

chilly yoke
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Please do not make terminal attack the ranked gamemode, the finals should not be like csgo etc

quick coyote
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lost sm rp to the point where im purposely loosing rp to go to lower ranks šŸ˜€>>>

sly ferry
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Why don't we go to play Rainbow Six?

crystal umbra
# zealous lark Well... I think the decision about switching to TA came from nexon to boost sale...

Honest to God I'll fund them myself and pay for advertising.

This definitely does seem like a stupid ass idea that would come from funders who don't know shit about making games.

Quite infuriating the more I think about it. People don't want "more of the same".. They want a similar feeling that's just as good as the first.

Cashout was that fresh new feeling people were getting and Terminal Attack is that old dusty "Search & Destroy" that everybody knows about.

tight bison
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dense reef
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Just wanted to pop in and say that I love this game, I think all of you at Embark are doing an amazing job and I trust all of your decisions

I really hope you guys aren't listening to the delusional loud minority complaining about the ranked changes (reminder: they are complaining about something that isn't even out yet). As a ranked diamond player myself I can confidently say that cashout was NOT a good fit for ranked and I'm excited for all the new changes

steel yew
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the only reason the finals is heavily enjoyable is because itā€™s so much more D I F F E R E N T than any other game, youā€™re basically putting a shittier version of any other games casuals into the finals, IT WONT STICK. The finals will have a giant drop in players cus of this. TA is a heavily targeted audience game mode. itā€™s not for everybody, itā€™s much more different than what the finals is, by switching out the only goal seeking game mode to this unoriginal shitty copy of rainbow six youā€™re only minimizing your audience to a few whereas the normal ranked was for EVERYBODY. Who said TA should be a ranked gm?????

copper topaz
craggy cobalt
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When are you going to change the name of the game? Since you are removing the mode that defined what the game is, the name is no longer valid.
Counter strike clone maybe?

haughty plover
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Could you make the music and background selectable from the old seasons?

lyric raven
shrewd tundra
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lol minority thats crazy thinking fiend

olive shell
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Ranked terminal attack is so lame who the hell made this decision

keen lily
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dude I tried the terminal attack mode for the first time, as I was only grinding ranked and doing challenged in power shift before, and holy shit IT IS SO BAD. It doesn't fit this game at all, just as I expected

austere tinsel
dreamy spoke
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I really hope they rethink this decision, i really dislike terminal attack

copper sphinx
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I don't really understand why the people that have been complaining the whole season about ranked being unbalanced beyond repair are loudly quitting the whole game because they're experimenting with ranked. If you enjoy the game try it out. If you're arguing that casual cashout is so much worse than/different to ranked why can't a more competitive environment change how you look at TA?

tepid brook
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Please do not remove Cash out as the main ranked option. It stands out from every other game as unique. TA is just watered down CSGO. I'm not saying that's bad, but it's basically that

odd ibex
dense marlin
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I wanna play this game but hidden deadzone fucks up my aim please remove that for controller gang and add outer deadzone into the settings

narrow owl
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Excited for S3 but disappointed that weā€™re dropping the core game mode that is ranked. When Embark said itā€™s making changes to ranked we were hoping that the ranking system would be fleshed out a bit more, not change the entire aspect of how we play ranked.

fossil yew
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It makes no sense though, why not instead of adding this world tour stuff just have ranked playlists for both cashout and TA? everyone wins. ranked skins are the same for both modes but you have a choice?

grave yarrow
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People crying about ranked need to learn games are meant to be fun.

Delete ranked.

pine raft
violet sparrow
rough herald
queen cloud
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I just wanted a new competitive arena style shooter to play coming from apex legends.
I really like The Finals closed beta, open beta. But I feel the devs are taking the game in the wrong direction. I'll never be a high skill competitive game.

Adding double katanas, that weird heavy melee. too much focus on melee when gunplay and balance could use A LOT of improvement. Almost feels like it's catered to casuals only and moving from a first person SHOOTER to a first person fighting game.

Also terminal attack tacfps like mode doesn't fit a high movement arena style shooter like the finals at all. Let alone in ranked lol

gloomy kiln
stark remnant
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CANCEL TERMINAL ATTACK AS THE ONLY RANKED MODE
MAKE IT ANOTHER RANKED QUEUE WITH A SEPARATE RANK OR KEEP CASHOUT AS THE ONLY MODE

Please don't kill the game we all love, listen to your core players, not low elo loud minorities on social medias
We put money in this game for what it is, we welcome change but don't change the game's main and ranked mode, this makes NO SENSE AT ALL

proud sparrow
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i really dont understand those ranked changes ..

cashout was a gamemode inovation in the game industry that made us actually love THE FINALS

Terminal attack is a Ā«Ā common gamemodeĀ Ā» that almost every game has. If i want to do ranked on this gamemode, why not playing Valorant, CS2, CoD ?

TA is a cool gamemode, but it has clearly not its place as a ranked mode.

i really dont want to see this game die. Embark inovated for a long time in the game industry and they better not let their game die. Please Embark we ask you to do something about this problem.

umbral maple
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Tried TA, didn't enjoy it. If i wanted to play that style i would play valorant. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

violet linden
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I wonā€™t be playing if TA is the only ranked game mode shit is ass just make it another cod or csgo game at this point

smoky kiln
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when using a gesture while on the slowmo round win screen, it breaks your camera making you only be able to look straight for the rest of the game

astral tundra
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give us cash out ranked!!

amber notch
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why do you plan on fucking over the only fans you still have

dense reef
# copper topaz Minority?!

You missed the part where I said LOUD minority. It's no secret that ranked players are a minority in most games and this game even more so. Most people don't care about ranked and just want to enjoy the new changes. Most people also don't mind terminal attack and won't mind it being the primary ranked game mode. These people won't complain about it. Only a small percentage of people are actually going to come out with complaints. That's what vocal minority means

night spruce
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The problem with Ta vs tournament mode is the following:

5v5 instead of 3v3v3v3
You have 1 terminal instead of 2 cash out points , meaning you cannot use the chaos in your advantage
Currently you have 1 life in terminal attack (this might chance)
The game is over faster since your done in 1 game
Your switching side's attack/defense instead of both with the current tournament mode.

Conclusion :

The Terminal Attack gamemode is to similar to s&d cod / cs&go , you will be fighting within the same space and i dont see those players leaving there game for The Finals.
The problem i have with this is that the speed of the game will turn it into a slow paced game since you only have 1 life so your not going to rush in and risk it.
You need to push as a team of 5 now, the maps are not designed for it.
The Tournament mode is staying but not as a ranked mode meaning it will lose it's value , why would someone spend a lot of time (takes longer then TA) for1 skin?

pulsar jay
bleak coral
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bye bye tournament mode you wont be missed

frosty moss
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TTK is too slow for 1vs5 to win

eager pike
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TA as ranked
Huge L

hasty trout
plush depot
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Should I try rainbow six? or what else can give me the finals fix I need

drowsy vector
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Had a good nights sleep since the news about TA ranked arrived. Made some comments yesterday that, like many of you, find it a ridiculous change and wonā€™t be playing. After being able to sleep those feelings off, waking up to a sunny day, I STILL STAND BY ALL THE THINGS Iā€™VE SAID! What the hell is this! Iā€™m so not excited for the new season now..

shell steppe
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I really had high hopes Terminal Attack will be embedded into Ranked tournament as the final round after Knock out rounds.

So here is some feedback:
Knockout round 1 =3vs3vs3vs3 Cashout
Knockout round 2 =3vs3vs3vs3 Cashout
The Final round = Terminal attack (3v3 - best of 7)

Would be the best of both worlds. hug_friend

S3 will be firešŸ”„

mossy basalt
terse slate
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I literally lost my whole crew for ranked.. we all dislike slow paced one life Terminal Attack..

gleaming summit
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Embark you can now release the real S3 information's, new melee weapons and ranked only Terminal Attack is a prank, right?

surreal oak
gloomy gazelle
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On top of the game tournies allowing you to earn multibuck, would be good to see xp and/or vrs allowing you to exchange them for MULTIBUCKS. For example 3000 vrs would give you 30 MULTIBUCKS.

strong escarp
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If Terminal Attack is going to be the new focus, then here's how you keep it within the theme/identity of this game:

  • Give it tournament brackets (quarterfinals, semifinals, finals)
  • Reward CASH for successful plants, defuses, and match victories.
autumn sedge
tacit hamlet
quick coyote
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no, there's no middle ground. They keep cash out or we boycott

woeful path
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damn this game may be toast thats willlldd... one of the best fps ive played in looong time may be done for me

urban marsh
# dense reef You missed the part where I said *LOUD* minority. It's no secret that ranked pla...

man what minority? the only people left are in the rank, there are no new player that 10 k you see active on steam are ether in rank or quick cash... is like 50/50 there are few people playing TA cause is not fun to die in the first 10 sec of the game by a sniper for example and stay and watch .... the problem here is that we weren t announced .... we got on the stream to see a trailer for the sez 3 not a new hole game, reach the finals was the slogan, in TA is not such thing....

ornate flax
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If they're gonna make TA the new ranked mode (horrible decision btw, hate the mode) at least enable heal guns or give med a heal nade or something. I like this game cause I can play support. There's literally not a way to do that in TA

lapis acorn
vocal cave
fresh lotus
chrome citrus
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Cashout is goated u remove it in ranked I will quit

distant orchid
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The change probably shouldn't surprise after they removed unranked tournament in favor of a single round variant. Sometimes it's nice to play that gamemode without worrying about ranks. Honestly TA is the worst event they've put out since launch, this is just cringe.

south mauve
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literally cannot wait for the new season

violet linden
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They needa revert the changes to ranked genuinely so disappointed shits j gonna slow the game down and make it feel like a diff cod with higher ttk

rugged temple
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They should also add an ingame economy where you have to buy gadgets, weapons, specialization and classes before rounds in ranked šŸ’€

dense reef
# urban marsh man what minority? the only people left are in the rank, there are no new player...

Dude do you have the stats and numbers to back this up? Because Embark does and they know what they're doing, I trust them. Clearly terminal attack was popular enough for them to make it the primary ranked game mode. And again, most people DON'T CARE about ranked, casual game modes in any game are going to be inherently more popular because there's less people who are willing to devote lots of time to ranked. So this change is not going to affect a significant portion of players. Besides I like how everyone suddenly forgot about the world tour thing they announced which is exactly ranked cashout

long linden
umbral oar
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Terminal Attack is like CS:Go, by making it the only ranked game mode you'll lose the only thing that added something new to the community, damn

spark drift
lavish shard
amber notch
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please give us more loadouts than 6 and PLEASE DONT DESTROY TOURNAMENT

stark venture
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The theme for season 3 should be called ā€œpast meets futureā€ since it feels like a lot of old feudal stuff with futuristic cyberpunk lookin stuff

atomic delta
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i dont get why everyone is so mad. you can play cashout tourneys 24/7 with unique rewards in the world tour. it seems like they are making the world tour the main mode of this game and set actual "ranked" to the side.

just wait for the update and play a bit too make your decision, just dont be a crybaby about a change in a videogame.

edit: i agree, adding both is probably the best idea. and yea sorry its multibucks that you get

stark remnant
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CANCEL TERMINAL ATTACK AS THE ONLY RANKED MODE
MAKE IT ANOTHER RANKED QUEUE WITH A SEPARATE RANK OR KEEP CASHOUT AS THE ONLY MODE

Please don't kill the game we all love, listen to your core players, not low elo loud minorities on social medias
We put money in this game for what it is, we welcome change but don't change the game's main and ranked mode, this makes NO SENSE AT ALL

slim rampart
prisma hollow
mortal notch
candid hollow
lament depot
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yall should unironically mute all of these crybabies. they are clogging up the chat with useless babbling

timber oxide
vestal basin
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Please fix those critical bugs such as game crash, cant shoot/use ability/sprint before updating any new contents\

high wing
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i dont understand why people complain about what they are adding when they havent mentioned anything about

  • fixing / upgrading the servers / netcode
  • removing aim assist from PC
  • Permbanning cheaters/exploiters
  • improving optimizations
  • fix problems with hitreg
  • fixing crashes and stability of the game
  • adding more stats and match history to profiles
  • penalty for leavers (especially end of season)
  • improving the party system
  • fix the faulty respawning giving advantage to respawning teams
  • being transparent about the value of store credits
  • improve the stats on weapons and gadgetsm just give us number not bars
  • keybindings for different classes/loadouts
  • setting default skins in the equipment menu
  • fixing melee exploits

there is so many fundamentally problems with the finals they should focus on, and thats the reason people are leaving, not maps or new weapons or modes

idle frigate
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Terminal attack becoming the main ranked mode SUCKS,

humble wave
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MAKE GLITCH EXPLODE ON IMPACT

grave yarrow
urban marsh
# dense reef Dude do you have the stats and numbers to back this up? Because Embark does and ...

Man all the skins ( diamond and ruby) are on TA the rank is just this game mode, the world tour doesn t give you anything then a badge for the profile, soo why should we waste time there when all the reword are in TA. Is true that games are fun for casual play, but all the nerfs that were done was because of the casual player and now heavy is more op then s1. Man you say about stats and numbers..., if they looked at those the game will not end up were is rn, took them 4 months in s1 to take out the nuke and in that time the most player base left, s2 was good and people still played it , with all the nerfs they did. But this is not just a normal change, is like a hole new game, the casual games doesn t give you nothing just a win and that it. If they want this make a rank for those who like TA and those who like quick cash. the main reason this game doesn t have main streamers is because rank is the same as in s1 , mmh and hhm, even Ottr said he doesn t think TA is a good move, and not over night. the hole split in the community is an accumulation of frustration that was build up but nerf and nerf, low performance, and now this. I m still waiting to see the live stream to see what they have in mind . I might be wrong , and I m sorry for that, but this is what i think rn and this is my frustration, with all the respect i love this game but the game starts to be less fun then it used to be.

wheat aspen
ashen stream
lusty merlin
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Dagger in TA ranked will be unplayablešŸ«”ā˜•

quartz cedar
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Huge finals fan here.. Very disappointed in your decision to remove cash out ranked, for TA ranked. That mode is like any other game out there.

Wake up devs, you had something special, why are you replacing it with something that we already played for 20 years ???
If anything, let us play both.
You guys are really doing too many mistakes imo

gloomy gazelle
grizzled cairn
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Please stop changing the whole game devs!

granite ravine
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Not only is the playercount very small, but you also change the ranked mode and risk losing the loyal fanbase with this change. S1 was great, S2 didn't feel like a game show too much for me, and now this? Hope yout think about this change once more

somber relic
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I think the rank change is not a smart decision, because me and my friend play this game because it was the best non tactical shooter out now. But now we feel like it is just a mid tactical shooter

chrome citrus
echo viper
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this ranked change will kill the game, you are removing the identity of the game for the sake of appealing to an audience that doesn't care about the fianls

just keep ranked cashout tournaments - that's the game that the pre-existing playerbase actually likes and wants to play, not dumbass tactical shooter number 7128

urban flicker
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Only thing the ranked TA will do is kill the loyal player base, world tour thingy should have been TA and ranked should have stayed as is

lavish shard
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the first time embark wanted to remove the bank it mode now it removes cashout in ranked I don't understand why remove the things that players like?? it's sabotage@quick coyote i play only bank it and i have less 1 minutes waiting šŸ‘

quick coyote
lapis acorn
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I can guarantee that if a poll was run ONE WEEK A AGO to take out one game mode TA would be be the one voted out.

terse slate
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If TA goes to ranked in S3, please for Gods sake and my sanity implement a mercy system. The chance for 4 random dudes to ragequit is so immense high that it is not fair for my rank to drop just because of other players. Going for the idea "Yeah just go premade with 4 people in." is ridiculous.

proven crown
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Cashout is the ultimate experience, why can't we have both TA and Cashout as Ranked? Just take away quick cash

hollow valve
# queen cloud I just wanted a new competitive arena style shooter to play coming from apex leg...

Arena shooters? The Finals is no where near arena shooters. Arena shooters: quake, doom, halo and other high strafe speed, 100% accuracy or just spread when no ads or ads, no or little recoil, pure aim FPSes that also focus on your moves and counter moves. And in short, arena multiplayer shooter genre is dead nowadays.

Apex is also not an arena shooter even with it's so called "movement" which is just an engine level of bug that increases your speed. The finals and apex can be classified as cod but with longer ttk.
They are both tactical shooters but with longer ttk.
The game background settings don't mean anything, no matter it happens in an arena or some military training compound. If you ask me what the finals is, I think it's just cod or no spread era Battlefield with longer ttk in close quarters environment. Or rainbow six siege but longer ttk and larger maps.

exotic rapids
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Solo-queue ranked in this game is probably one of the worst possible gaming experience I have ever felt, and I've played quite some really terrible games. Really hope they do something about that because I keep getting matched with gold players (who have no clue what they are doing) while my enemies are diamonds (3 stack pros)

amber notch
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give us more than 6 loadouts and give us ranked tournament

icy kestrel
vagrant spire
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DONT REMOVE RANKED TOURNAMENTS!

wheat bolt
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This is the most unique shooter out right now. Changing to a generic bomb defuse gamemode model, that's 20 years old will kill the game. You will not compete with valorant/csgo/r6. This is a 70 IQ move let it go.

glad thunder
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DONT REMOVE RANKED TOURNAMENTS!

celest cairn
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We need more skins for guns as the skins arent as good, and they need to re-evaluate the quality of legendary and purple.
Some legendary skins arw just recolours without changing the actual gun. They should actually change the gun model like with apex legends. And purple skins should be the recolours but obviously nicer than the blue and green tiers.

serene sluice
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The gunplay, ttk, movement, gadgets and most importantly, the maps in this game have all had so much work put into them to make a functioning arena shooter, it shows and it's awesome. But it works as just that, an arena shooter. NONE of the elements that make this game great are on display in tac-shooter style modes, I'm begging you to have belief in your own hard work and not throw away the ranked mode.

idle frigate
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Might aswell play CSGO now haha

queen cloud
urban marsh
wicked dragon
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Cashout is the definitive and classic The Finals experience. They make Terminal the only ranked mode and I'm quitting from season 3

surreal oak
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Just listen to us pls

manic sandal
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I need more contestants, to create more skin variants šŸ„ŗ

deep egret
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Melee weapons are ruining the game, and you add new ones šŸ˜„ I hope it'll not become worst than Apex

jaunty tundra
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Please, for the love of finals uniqueness, offer the classic ranked experience next to TA. I couldnā€™t believe you want to make TA THE comp mode

wispy vault
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i just played a ranked game and two teams worked together. like they steal their cashouts in a 5 seconds timespawn like 10 times and got like 20 k in the end of the game

supple tiger
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I know everyone has been saying this but i feel i should too. I'm too tired to say anything proper but as a person nearing 1000 hours in this game that I love, why would the new ranked be something that a lot of different games have? That just ruins the identity of the game... we came here for the cash out mode and all of a sudden you're just like nuhuh? That doesn't feel right to me.. I'm really scared that the thing I loved about this game will be gone and replaced by something that was barely introduced this season. I have nothing against the terminal attack mode itself, it's fun but this is not the move man.. but I'll just have to wait and see the season drop first to really see what's going on. I hope for nothing but the best for this games future, I love The Finals

grizzled sphinx
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I will definitely quit if the main ranked mode is gonna be terminal

radiant orbit
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bullet 2 says switches things up but itll just be like val or any other hero shooter that are a dime a dozen

hybrid ginkgo
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Again like my earlier posts, this dev team is literal braindead, who TF would remove the cashout ranked when its what the game is built its whole playerbase on. Im so tired of giving this shitty ass company chances

sinful osprey
olive atlas
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Augh, didn't come to this game to play CS:GO/valorant, if ranked gets changed to terminal attack, no point in staying because I can just boot up CS.

But for anyone hating on the devs/oscar/etc, its not their fault, they have to listen to Nexon who is just out for money and doesn't share the passion for the game the devs do, Nexon basically went "We're not getting enough money, cs/valorant is very profitable, make terminal attack the main thing!" (Embark devs need to listen to Nexon or they will literally lose their jobs)

slate urchin
dusky apex
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shotgun keeps no-regging every now and then its really hard to kill someone within a single dash distance and do no damage facing them

hollow valve
# serene sluice The gunplay, ttk, movement, gadgets and most importantly, the maps in this game ...

And @queen cloud oh I see you guys are talking about the new ranked replacement. I personally don't quite have an opinion on it tho, I prefer go and see. And I don't like tactical shooters as well. I think the sell point of this game is flashy gadgets with long ttk.

But about the arena shooter part, just compare this game to rainbow six. Except the longer ttk part there is little difference. Team cooperation required, you move and strafe so slow comparing to traditional arena shooters, recoil pattern, tactical decisions are required instead of fast flashy kills.

And as for apex, in early days apex shields that make this game long ttk were supposed to be a pick up advantage in a short ttk 100 HP battle royale. And there is even visual shaking when you are hit in the flesh. Then it gradually evolves to standard because it make apex long ttk and stand out from other battle royales.

But nowadays many games mechanics are gradually mixed, so many concepts are becoming blurry. But neither apex nor the finals is traditional arena shooter. They are just longer ttk battle royale and longer ttk tactical shooters.
(Dudes the guns literally don't perform like traditional arena shooters!!!)

lavish shard
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I very hope the hook is 4th abilities you dont remove another things

outer slate
#

Is there a petition to cancel TA as a ranked mode

stark remnant
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CANCEL TERMINAL ATTACK AS THE ONLY RANKED MODE
MAKE IT ANOTHER RANKED QUEUE WITH A SEPARATE RANK OR KEEP CASHOUT AS THE ONLY MODE

Please don't kill the game we all love, listen to your core players, not low elo loud minorities on social medias
We put money in this game for what it is, we welcome change but don't change the game's main and ranked mode, this makes NO SENSE AT ALL

hybrid maple
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^

river plover
pseudo breach
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Day 68 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

Please fix the poor hit registration šŸ„²

valid blaze
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Iā€™m fine with TA being ranked, but I think it would be a good idea for the quick play Cashout gamemode to become unranked tournament.

minor plover
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Take the novel game-mode you've designed and built a game and player-base around, then replace ranked with a rehashed version of a game-mode that's been around for over a decade in a dozen different games built from the ground up to support it? I hope I'm wrong, but that doesn't sound like a great idea, especially if it's anything like the current version in the game. It's ok as a side gimmick, but it won't carry the game, at least not for me. I think it's more likely to alienate current players, such as myself, than bring new ones in.

Ranked Tournaments (Cashout) is the reason I have kept playing the Finals. Please don't remove it. I'm not interested in the cashout tournaments being solely the world tour version, and clearly that sentiment is widely held. If I wanted to play a ranked terminal game-mode I'd rather do it on CS or R6S.

Why not just have a ranked leader-board for each mode?

lyric junco
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If the goal of the ranked change is to promote competitive play, then I have a suggestion. Tournament mode should consist of multiple rounds of Cashout (Finals rules: tokens, respawn timer) with 2 teams total in each match. 3v3. If you remove the 3rd and 4th party aspects of the game, Esports will be more likely. It will also make the game MUCH easier to spectate which should be a primary goal of any competitive game. I feel that was a contributing factor with changing ranked to TA.

velvet steppe
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I AM SO EXCITED TO PLAY THE GAME NOW A RANKED MODE WHERE LIGHT WILL HAVE IMPACT. NO MORE MMH META UNSKILLED PEOPLE RELYING ON INSTA REVIVE AND HEAL SPAM THIS IS SO NICE!

charred seal
# wicked dragon Cashout is the definitive and classic The Finals experience. They make Terminal ...

I agree it doesn't make sense to make terminal attack the main rank mode. I am quitting too if that's the case the mode is soo unbalanced I only played terminal attack to complete the missions that's it. This seems like suicide for the Finals. At this point I feel like the devs themselves have no clue of what they wanna do with this game to be honest. It would be great if the cashout rank is also there. The terminal attack ranked just does not suit the theme of the game. They should spend more time working on ways to bring more players to the game rather than killing their own game.

dusty mantle
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I very hope that The Finals in PS5 platform would update keyboard & mouse compatibility real soon. The way I play with controller is clearly worse.

fervent nacelle
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i might be wrong but i dont think they ever said that terminal attack will replace cashout, all they said was that a new ranked mode will come out. I wouldn't be so cynical and just see what happens. If they do replace cashout, they will quickly see that it was a mistake and rectify it. They aren't trying to make the game die.

dense reef
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I love how people constantly complained about how bad ranked is for ages and now that Embark is introducing changes to make it actually more competitively viable these same people are crying about these changes (the season hasn't even come out yet). Like jeez, there is no pleasing this community huh

urban marsh
orchid quarry
spice crescent
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I just had an idea that I personally really like. There's a big outrage with Terminal Attack becoming the only ranked mode. What if it wasn't made the only ranked game mode, and instead it's distinguished only by the highest rank?

So, we have diamond for Cashout. What if ruby was the "diamond" for Terminal Attack, instead of being an extra rank above diamond? We could have both competitive modes in the game at the same time, too, which solves the outrage. If you wanted to, you could grind for each of the "gem ranks". Maybe if we get ranked Powershift, it could be amethyst or something.

Just an idea. I don't want ranked Cashout to be removed.

vapid mason
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Ya'll should add a clan system, I think that would be fun to explore and it fits with the theme of the game

lapis acorn
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If they added CTF as an LTM and you fucking run the money across the map. Iā€™d take ranked CTF over TA in this game. Thatā€™s how bad TA is built for this game.

golden rock
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So as someone who doesn't really care about ranked all that much (I basically only play it to get the skins I think are nice, so usually gold and because my friends just default to ranked for some reason I don't understand) here are my thoughts about the ranked change.

I like certain aspects of it, but I don't like other ones. I like the idea of World Tour and I would have honestly preferred if it became the main ranked mode. Basically swap the reward tracks, allow World Tour to go up to Ruby or Diamond or whichever is gonna be the highest rank and give rankeds the ability to go up to gold.

I never liked the idea that the ranked gamemodes have to be a one specific thing, especially in games that have multiple modes. R6 did it, Tf2 did it (tho that was the work of the community). It just makes so much more sense that if you want to be called the best at the game you should be good at all parts of it, which would include quick cash, bank it, powershit, cashout and terminal attack atm and any new gamemodes that they add.

Other than that you could have just kept cashout and terminal attack as separate ranked game modes with lesser rewards and their own leaderboards.

young scarab
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What is the point of the game been called THE FINALS if it is not the main (ranked) gamemode ?
even the slogan of the game says Can You Reach The Finals ?

Cashout tournament (ranked) should stay the mainstage of the game. It's fresh iconic unique and mainly fun .
Tbh i personally don't care about if terminal attack will be ranked or not but making this generic gamemode as the (only) ranked experience robs the game of its whole identity and brand.

update: just read new explanation from the team reaffirming that cashout will remain the highlight of the game which is ofc amazing to hear

hard river
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light op heavy op medium fcked... if you wanna play support and don't get kills, you can loose more points than others what a pathetic move, i can feel the shame...

short solstice
tacit hamlet
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DONT REMOVE RANKED TOURNAMENTS! JUST ADD TWO DIFFERENT RANKED MODES, OR JUST MAKE A SINGLE RANKED MODE THAT ROTATES THE TWO MODES, JUST LIKE OVERWATCH, (hybrid map, 2cp, ctp)

opaque needle
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I honestly give it a chance but if u donā€™t leave Cashout tournament as a second ranked mode, the game could loose all players, because of CS , Ow or Valorant, the 5 vs 5 competitive shooter market is too big to compete, and if the everyone who loved the concept of the Cashout leaves, then sadly it will be over

dry wraith
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yeah, no way i'll play in TA ranked

exotic epoch
#

No cap

lilac coral
#

Itā€™s funny to watch people giving feedback on something thatā€™s not even out yet lolz

umbral abyss
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Embark, don't listen to the whiners, do what you need to do and what you think is right

rough igloo
#

No šŸ§¢

errant leaf
#

LF4 terminal attack training, must be D1, must use heavy only. H-H-H-H-H RPG goo gun only, under no circumstances are you allowed to have fun

dreamy nebula
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The "Terminal Attack" mode should not be rated... This is not a bad mode for "quick play", it is tactical, requires concentration, composure and jewelry actions. However, it doesnā€™t have all that frantic dynamics and excitement, which is why I love this game.
In the "Cash out" mode, your pulse rises, your blood boils, you really feel like you are a participant in a major show, in which not just victory is at stake, but a big win and the public's aviation!!!

P.S.
Don't turn The Finals into a standard team shooter. In the "Great and Large VR Show" there is no need for shootouts in a couple of seconds like in "Terminal Attack". It should have frantic and protracted shootouts, lasting minutes, for the sake of money and fame!!!!

torpid tusk
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Why did you make terminal attack competitive ? It's the least adequate mode to play the finals, a frenetic shooter where movement and being dynamic are at its core, but that decided to host a static, placement based mode with round long respawn times...what a shame. Why is power shift not competitive ? It's the most engaging mode in the game and maybe the only one that actually makes well use of the game mechanics

charred dagger
#

I freaking love you, couldn't have said it any better ā¤ļø

patent night
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PLEASE DO NOT ADD TERMINAL ATTACK AS A PERMANENT RANKED MODE I BEG YOU PLEASE

glacial knot
#

New game name call of the finals šŸ˜‚ but A variety is always good To avoid boredom

boreal valve
rare rock
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both. why not both? please embork :(((

manic harness
#

I love this game, I like it, I play all the casual modes, I have 3 diamond in the rating
but what was added to the game a long time ago, just take it and delete it forever - nonsense
add ranked TA as a secondary ranked mode and everything will be fine

gilded herald
#

THANK YOU FOR RUINING THE GAME. WTF IS TERMINAL ATTACK? THIS GAME IS MIX OF APEX LEGENDS AND COUNTER STRIKE. NEVERTHELESS, BETTER VERSÄ°ON. FROM NOW ON, U TURN THIS GAME IN TO COUNTER STRIKE AND FOR NOOBS, CAMPERS. GOOD LUCK ON EARNING MONEY. 1 GAME DOWN. PLEASE DO NOT PLAY RANKED AT SEASON 3RD. WE WANT CASHOUT NOT TERMINAL SH.. You've eliminated the element that plays the biggest role in why we love this game: luck and skill. THOSE WHO CANNOT PLAY GOOD IN RANKED GAMES CAN PREFER EASY GAMES LIKE FORTNITE OR VALORANT. OUR PURPOSE OF PLAYING THIS GAME IS TO ENSURE IT IS COMPLEX AND MENTALLY DIFFICULT. THERE WAS ONLY ONE FUN GAME ON EARTH AND THAT WAS THE FINALS, WE WOULD THANK YOU FOR GIVING THIS TO US.

karmic pike
zealous bluff
stoic flicker
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From what I understand the world tour is ranked cashout. Iā€™m not sure why you guys are so upset about it. TA will attract more players so you can look at the steam charts you have bookmarked and check everyday and smile. If you want the game to have more players you need TA ranked and you arenā€™t losing anything because world tour has ranked cashout as well. šŸ‘šŸ‘

cosmic cloud
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Helped a plat 1 get diamond today, fought and beat multiple diamond teams with a mix of low plats, and finally lost a first round in third place against two triple stack high diamond teams, and I lost more rank/leaderboard position than what I gained going to the finals twice, and 2 second round knockouts. Still plat 3. Are we sure ranked doesn't need a hotfix before the season ends?

toxic shadow
sinful osprey
# stoic flicker From what I understand the world tour is ranked cashout. Iā€™m not sure why you gu...

People will leave the game as well, so it needs to be a balance of intriguing new players, while keeping the original players, because if ranked cashout goes away itā€™ll take away from the way the finals is different from other competitive shooters, the destructiveness is still a part of Ta, but doesnā€™t feel as viable as it is in normal cashout, overall, it should just be a separate ranked mode in addition to normal cashout to appease both groups of players

charred seal
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I soo agree with you man. Sweats will never leave and after season 3 releases people will start complaining about the sweats in Terminal attack. The mode is very unbalanced plus the maps are not even designed for this mode. Idk how it will turn out but I have a feeling it's not gonna be good. This just seems like suicide to me tbh. Embark should focus more on marketing the game imo rather than making such changes. Host some twitch rivals, push for the eSports market.

hasty umbra
#

do they want their game to die? i don't understand

lean coral
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they should make the quick play gamemode cashout the ranked gamemode, i think it will be really fun!! maybe make a 3v3 game of quick cash at the end, to make THE FINALS special!!

hard badger
#

please we need team deathmatch, imo this will attrack casual players (and a lot of people) who just wanne shoot without an objective. I know we have bank it but bank it is still about the money you bank and also its always in team you neeed to play. In tdm everyone can freely run around and shoot without staying in team.

cyan wadi
#

what the fucl are those ranked changes?? what the fuck

humble dragon
#

When buff ak and fcar? Cuz medium now weak. Lights with throwing knives are insane

grand quarry
#

I've already heard from a couple of people I play with that they plan to drop the game now over TA being ranked and I'm in the same boat

wind gulch
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really need these guys to stop the pattern of "99% of everything you've shown us is fantastic, but that last 1% is a dealbreaker". We want positive press, not headlines like "The Finals Season 3 is removing what makes The Finals stand out". If you had just said "TA is now also a ranked mode" it'd be sunshine & rainbows in here

prime flax
#

Keep S3 as it is. šŸ™šŸ™

thorn socket
graceful lion
#

ta is only ranked now? think I quit. gg. imagine having a unique mode and game and then just copy paste cs

merry creek
pearl plank
#

I actually don't think that terminal attack as a ranked mode is a bad thing. But ONLY Terminal attack definitely is. I think that for every round there should be a selection of game modes that can be played.And I don't think it will stay that way. Just wait for a response. Embark has always been oriented on their community. Why shouldn't they this time?

junior sigil
#

TA is very different from the core the finals, would the game be balanced around it now??? worst update in the finals history...

hollow badger
floral plover
#

Guys we are destroying the game by being mad already!! Why be mad if season 3 didnā€™t even start yet! Calm down and eat an ice cream! Stop hating embark understands your problem!! Now letā€™s talk about the cool stuff that is coming our way with season 3!! Why are no cm online ?

short fern
#

ranked tournament is what made the the finals so fresh and entertaining and unpredictible....now just another CS clone... so sad

snow yew
#

I think someone has to say this. Im like 99% sure they are not removing ranked tournament (ranked cashout) for Ranked Terminal Attack. It looks like that they are going to make a ranked playlist where you can CHOOSE to play Ranked Tournament or Ranked Terminal Attack. The devs never said they were going to make Terminal Attack the main ranked mode, they just want to add more to it. Think of Apex Legends. Apex has two ranked modes; Arena and Battle Royale. Im like so sure they are doing the same thing here just with Tournament and Terminal. So can you give these Devs a break and be excited for a really cool update instead of being a big baby that you saw one part of the trailer say Ranked Terminal Attack and went crazy. Im Plat 1 going to Diamond btw since you think supporters are ā€œnoobsā€

wary mulch
#

Just wanted to say I love The Finals and Embark are the greatest. So hyped for season 3!

wind moat
#

100% agree

tulip kite
#

Please donā€™t get rid of ranked cash out for terminal attack. So defibs and healers will no longer be part of the core game mode anymore ? Heavies with RPGS will be OP. Medium loses two gadgets.

stark remnant
#

CANCEL TERMINAL ATTACK AS THE ONLY RANKED MODE
MAKE IT ANOTHER RANKED QUEUE WITH A SEPARATE RANK OR KEEP CASHOUT AS THE ONLY MODE

Please don't kill the game we all love, listen to your core players, not low elo loud minorities on social medias
We put money in this game for what it is, we welcome change but don't change the game's main and ranked mode, this makes NO SENSE AT ALL

sudden dust
#

You can add TA ranked to the finals , but DON`T Delete Cashout Ranked

buoyant tendon
oblique olive
granite ravine
#

Please add Capture the Objective mode like in Battlefield games. Please, Embark, please šŸ™

lavish shard
solar hatch
#

I think it could be good to have TA as a ranked mode. It'd be cool if both were staying and there were both, but I can live with TA being the only ranked mode. I think defibs or a single revive (not respawn) would be a solid change for TA.
I'd like to see the rank points bar return too, since that's a lot more indicative of your position

chrome basin
#

So instead of fixing the current ranked game mode you desidert to say fuck it and introduce a shittier version of snd from other games?

How about instead you maybe fix the game mode the game was designed around? I have a few ideas.

Make spawns better. Stop spawning a team that is holding the washout across the map when it's not been taken and two teams are fighting over it. Or spawning across the map with 30 seconds left of a match with no chance of stealing.

Make logic around holding cash outs better so players don't feel like getting third party is game over. It's so frustrating having 20+ kills and be in 3rd or 4th when you have had a chance at 2-4 cashouts. Only to hold them and lose them last second after wiping 1-2 teams.

Kill the MMM, HHH meta. These two classes are just way to strong stacked in a team or mixed. Having to shoot an enemy down to 10 and have him healed up by the time you've reloaded is just frustrating to play against. And the heavy with its multiple get out of jail free cards is so extremely broken. You start of every fight with rpgs and you enemy is down to 50% or less of its health pool.

These are just a few of the core issues that make this game frustrating to play

alpine wren
#

Please replay old music on the game

fair pendant
glacial sierra
#

so feedback chat blocks messages for 'bad words' but doesn't tell you which words are bad, and also doesn't let you re-type your message and hit send unless you wait 30min.

Feedback for Embark:

man the sniper rifle really ruins this game - but hear me out, it doesn't ruin it at range.

what ruins this game is that people with a sniper rifle can reliably win close-range battles, if they're twitchy/accurate enough. the penalty for trying to use an actual long range rifle in close quarters against someone with say...a sword, or a big fuckking hammer, or a a pistol, or an assault rifle...would be 999,999,999/1,000,000,000 times, death. not in the finals.

this is what scares away semi-casual players (who are the ones who actually likely to spend money) from this game. people who want to jump on after a day at work, on in a few spare hours on the weekend, don't want to see a gnome with a sniper rifle and think "oh yeah that guy is going to easily put the end of that barrel to the eye socket of my bigger guy with an AK-47, and win this battle". if they have the experience a few times, they'll give up and go play...i dunno..battlefield? and won't spend money on silly outfits and stuff in their fun game.

you know what game makes a shitload of money from non-competitive players on crap they don't need? GTA V. think about that for a while.

upper citrus
# snow yew I think someone has to say this. Im like 99% sure they are not removing ranked t...

Nope they have said they are removing ranked tournament and replacing with with ranked terminal attack. There will be a ā€œworld tourā€ mode which is a cashout tournament (gamemode subject to change) with limited loadouts and restricted to the same map for a week at a time. It also will not be ranked. It will just have a badge that goes from bronze to gold depending on how money youā€™ve cashed out

gaunt hedge
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Worst change of all time ranked terminal attack is the worst thing you could do for this game. CASHOUT is what makes this game unique and is the whole point of ā€œThe Finalsā€

cyan wadi
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Season 3 is not it.

  • making terminal attack the ranked mode is just a knockoff r6
  • they new map as shown in the trailer feels more like a cod map rather than the usual more vertical maps of the finals
  • the world tour thingy where we have to play the same map for weeks is just not fun
  • swords that deflect bullets while running towards people???

Instead of fixing spawns and refining the core gameplay you rather go and make some worse version of snd that we have already seen in so many other games? the game was really promising but with the less than optimal balancing, countless bugs and new changes that just fundamentally change the game, the finals is really not heading in a great direction and from what i can tell a lot of the playerbase is not interested.

They're trying to build a new playerbase on top of TA, letting down the initial concept of the game and its playerbase and since it's a unique concept - we have no other games to go to
Either finals or nothing.
We want to keep the chaos and vertical combat we love the finals for and not some r6 or cod wannabe.

late parcel
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lower the reconnect timer to 1 minute or 2
every other game in TA a teammate leaves but wont reconnect making it impossible for the other players to leave without getting penalized

ocean shore
teal bear
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If gamers have a problem with the core game mode of the finals. The FPS genre deserves to die

exotic epoch
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This is a fair take, but I think both options should be playable with separate rankings. No need to kill the OG game mode

broken geyser
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I hope the new chain has a very fast cooldown if at all cause its mostly gonna be paired with the new spear weapon. And cuz its close range there won't be alot of defense form long range attacks like mesh or just run away with charge or get cover with goo. So I just hope the cooldown time is veryy little or not at all to compensate

swift laurel
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i would not have bought a stack of multibucks a day ago if i knew they were going to ruin the gamemode i play 90% of the time, if they dont make TA actually fun and fix the obvious issues it has im not buying anything anymore (btw ta is dead in my region because no one plays it)

cobalt coyote
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Its called them having an identity crisis. Many of the gadgets and weapons are going to be completely useless in ruby/high diamond ranks, even more so than before. The game's designed around cashout and thus TA is gonna be a whole balancing nightmare

quick coyote
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Bruh, just enjoy the game

river yew
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I have never joined a discord for a game. I have never spent any money on skins in any game ever (im 27). But that has all changed for the finals because its the most fresh fps weve gotten in forever and the game feels great. Also the devs are incredible and communicate with us a lot more than any other game company. BUT if the only ranked mode will in fact be TA I will def not be putting any more money into this game. Cashout is what makes the game so fun.. It has its flaws but that can be worked on. Please dont make TA the only ranked mode. Played dozen of games and just went straight back to cashout

red wind
nova umbra
short canopy
# quick coyote Bruh, just enjoy the game

Very out of touch take. We all enjoy the game because of cash out and itā€™s uniqueness. Not to say I donā€™t enjoy cs but if this becomes a cs knockoff, why stay?

lavish shard
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why do we always need players who understand nothing to start removing a ranked cashout mode that the players appreciate normally that they are disappointed I have never played in ranked but I understand their disappointment

tulip kite
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RPG are such a crutch, how do heavies have the most damage output and the most heath.

foggy blade
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I believe they are trying to make the game more "competitive" as in "cs, valorant". That much seems obvious, the problem is the reason 90% of people play this game is because of the cashout mode, if people wanted to play "competitive cs" they would play CS. Like, they literally have to KILL this update and make this thing be FUN AS FK for it to work, otherwise they will lose a LOT OF PLAYERS. Honestly, i dont get why not leave the ranked cashout mode... Duh, they dont want to split the playerbase, still, this is such a risky move... the chance its gonna work is like 20%

gray yew
gloomy raven
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Can melee characters give up gadgets to have a sidearm???? ( a sword with a pistol but no gadgets)

plucky estuary
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finaly u guys make last step to lose last players who was still here , amazing how u can destroy the game .

formal raft
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Dear Embark, not to tag on the hate train but you gotta hear the community out on this. You canā€™t remove ranked cashout tournaments. Myself and many others in the community can proudly say that cash out ranked tournaments is what makes your game UNIQUE. While trying to get higher player counts has been a challenge this just seems like the easy way out to get some people back. As Iā€™m typing this someone is calling this an identity crisis, I have to agrees with this statement. TA is overall easier to organize an esports scene for and the ranking system is likely simpler to adjust. Although again, cash out is YOUR BABY take the time to nurture and perfect it because it will do you the best in all metrics in the long run. Just imagining the cash out tournament esports scene makes me excited but this push for TA is NOT it. As someone who just got into this game during season two and was looking for a new competitive experience it just seems like Iā€™m gonna go back to R6 bc thatā€™s the game my boys are stuck on. I have been chipping away at them slowly and am nearly there to get them all on this game but whatā€™s the point anymore if cash out isnā€™t gonna be the main mode. Please revert this upcoming change before itā€™s too late.

safe hinge
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guys please dont make the game a 5v5 tac fps with defuse as the only ranked mode, we have enough of those. cashout is part of what made the finals unique and I think the gamemode worked well.

chrome basin
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Why not have cashout tournament and in the final round have a terminal attack?

rancid falcon
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just let players choose between the two ranked gamemodes instead of only having terminal attack

wind gulch
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if World Tour cashout tournaments will be available 24/7, and the "weekly" part refers to there being a rotation on the map/modifiers rather than limited availability, we should be good to go. I just don't ever want to log in and see "Cashout isn't available right now, come back later".

hard badger
terse slate
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Please Embark rely more on surveys, communicate with us... If you anger the core community with not communicated changes it will hurt more... Let us be part of the thinking part and say where your worries are.
Yes Publisher and shareholders play a great part in decisions but they definetly have no idea at all because they do not play the game like we do.

hasty cliff
distant pumice
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Could you guys add an option to turn down ambience music in-match without turning down the main menu music as well? Las Vegas ambience music masks footsteps and it's therefore better to turn it off, but main menu and queue music is so fire that I'd rather not turn it off. But turning it on and off every game is a bit annoying. Or keep it permanently on to ensure everyone is on the same playing field regardless of settings.

hushed sand
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Locking loadouts for the core game mode and shunting it to some cosmetic grind to make room for a worse clone of counterstrike is the single dumbest decision you could possibly make.

upper citrus
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Hmm yes today I will execute my core audience no russian style

crystal storm
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i really hope this game can regain its original focus on gun play instead of this melee/bow/throwing dagger shit with OW abilities. Utility is fine - but nobody wants to get full killed by a single heavy charge stunlocking you without counterplay.

vagrant depot
# formal raft Dear Embark, not to tag on the hate train but you gotta hear the community out o...

For real nowtm I would rather have Power shift as Main mode than TA...All TA enjoyers are part of the Modern Gaming industry and why the fps genre is what it is... BORING....

EHTER IT'S S&D OR BR EVERYTIMEšŸ’€

The Finals used to be unique, but it slowly starts to become similar too modern AAA Studios, with a bit more Toughts and everything I'm sure they would've bring up a cool new mode which is Competitive but not like every other shit... Like a Smaller version of Cashout or sum.
I spent over 500hr in this game since CB2 and spent so much money in Embark bcs they always was Different... Now I'm not even sure if I will buy the BP...
I'm completely with you @formal raft yesegg
EMBARK PLS BE CAREFULhug_friend
@hasty cliff U absolutly right!

I wouldve think just in this Moment why don't mix all up why ist the Cash out mode not like 6vs6 huge Map(like we know them) and a Vault at the beginning. Both teams go fight for the Vault and there are 2 Bases for each team u need too bring the Key (which jumps out of the Vault) to you're Teams base.
The Team with the key stay in an area in there base where a timer goes down or more like a download for being in this area.
The other Team need to Find way to bring the Key to there own base and try to be the first with the most "Downloaded Data"

Sry this idea comes with this writing so I apologize for the bad grammarhug_friend

fervent pollen
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Hi Embark, I play your game SOLELY for the Ranked Cashout mode. I don't even play Quick Cash most nights. It's always Ranked Cashout. I tried the Terminal Attack mode and honestly really didn't like it. I won't be playing ranked next season. If the game continues to move towards having TA become the main game mode, I just won't play anymore which absolutely sucks because The Finals is the only game I play now.

golden surge
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Many People really dont like Melee in this game. They dont want more they want less melee Weapons and more Guns.
Better go more into Weapon Customizzation instead of getting new Melee weapons.

meager finch
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I didn't think the rumors were true. If they are,

Please don't replace cash out tournaments with terminal attack. I have no problem seeing a new ranked queue for TA, but why should it cost the core mode The Finals is known for?

I dont hate TA, but the only friends I have who play despise it and will likely stop playing this season... šŸ˜°

rain kettle
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in my opinion removing cash out from ranked is the worst move ever, it`s the thing Finals made outstanding. Going only TA is like trying for an cs/valo copy we have enough on that i play finals for cash out ranked so are my friends idk if thats a try got get more players but i think the most loyal players wont play it so much . the game has its very own style and gamemodes its fine getting two ranked modes why not but completly removing it nah thanks then we can go back to play cs

shrewd egret
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Why we got so hyped, alpha, bĆŖta saison 1 and saison 2 with so good trailers and now s3, you just crushed the adn of the finals in s3, WHY ??? Peoples worked on trailers, on the game since years and someone choose to put CS GO on the finals and every one say yes ?

hollow valve
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Quality of life change about the weapon charms:

Please make charms can only rotate 90 degrees (or less) from the bottom to horizontal. Some charms are big, and sometimes they would rotate to the top after you jump hence blocking your sight. (For me it's the earth charm, and our blue marble is a really fat boi.)

blazing haven
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Please keep cashout as the ranked gameplay

azure orchid
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Please, embark....don't turn this into CS.

still yoke
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Delete sniper

eager gyro
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please embark im begging you , with terminal attack you will lose a lot of players

royal gust
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Agreeing with everyone who want to keep the only game mode that keeps the finals unique^

lavish shard
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can at least admit that @pearl kiln is not hiding, take responsibility and come and answer us

quick coyote
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will the challenger, pro and master circuit rewards change next season or are they permanent?

trim juniper
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I like the Finals because of cashout.. it was something different, is was smth new.
It was that what finals made different from all other games. Its was that what finals stood for and the first thing in this game.
Removing that as main mode and change it with a boring 5v5 Mode that has every game is a big mistake..
As Iā€™m not the only person and many share that opinion I hope they listen to the community and remove that change šŸ„²

quick coyote
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keep the 5v5 mode

stoic flicker
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Oscar doesnā€™t want to talk to you guys because you are being meanies. If you had nice manners you wouldnā€™t put the devs off from talking to you but you guys would rather curse at them.

solar jay
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just make a poll

tacit hamlet
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DONT REMOVE RANKED TOURNAMENTS! JUST ADD TWO DIFFERENT RANKED MODES, OR JUST MAKE A SINGLE RANKED MODE THAT ROTATES THE TWO MODES, JUST LIKE OVERWATCH, (hybrid map, 2cp, ctp)

echo viper
stray pasture
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Hello
A little suggestion from me.
I think we should be able to accumulate more vrs(i think that's what they are called) points than 3k.
Sometimes in this season I got 3k as a rewart at once and I cant get it because I already have 3k
When season 2 came out, i still need to grind them to unlock new gadgets and weapons even tho i propably get more then enough through out whole season but i cant keep them

buoyant portal
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i was right terminal ended up becoming ranked

elfin badge
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Guns > melee weapons

eager vine
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Melee is more fun to use but you die more so it's less fun

bleak nexus
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I hope career circuit will not have tournament wins or plays or world tour wins etc in the challenges. Its not really the best to force people to play ranked cause of a challenge. Ranked already and should have more rewards for its own scene.

formal raft
pliant umbra
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@pearl kiln I have been playing this game since the beta on my gpd win 4 with my gpd g1 egpu. During the beta and beginning of season one everything ran smoothly but when season 2 came out I have gotten random crashes. These crashes havenā€™t just been effecting me as most games I enter it seems like at least one person in the lobby gets booted. This has made ranking up very difficult for me as every time my game crashed I went down substantially. I recently received a message saying Iā€™ve been suspended which caught me by surprise as I donā€™t cheat and never have. I am a big fan of this game and have gotten several of my friends to join in on the fight to reach the finals. Is there anyway you can help address this issue so that I can try and make it to diamond before season 2 is done?

rapid stream
stark remnant
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CANCEL TERMINAL ATTACK AS THE ONLY RANKED MODE
MAKE IT ANOTHER RANKED QUEUE WITH A SEPARATE RANK OR KEEP CASHOUT AS THE ONLY MODE

Please don't kill the game we all love, listen to your core players, not low elo loud minorities on social medias
We put money in this game for what it is, we welcome change but don't change the game's main and ranked mode, this makes NO SENSE AT ALL

quick coyote
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damn a lot of people dont like the new ranked and honestly i dont either i genuanly hope they replace it or make it an aditional ranked mode

sacred cypress
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I hope throwing knifes will get nerfed back to the state they were. It isn't fun to play against them and just be blown away by just looking at them. Buffing both speed and damage was such a silly idea

next flax
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Where is the medium specialisation/gadget? RIP

golden kernel
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Are you sure? You are the finalsļ¼Œno csļ¼Œor walo

fair dagger
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text chat is a mistake, if you want communication you have pings, if you want better one you have voice chat
Messages will just be full of people insulting each other

whole palm
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Please, Embark listen to us this time you still got time before season 3 just put them both as ranked gamemodes it might be some problems with it that why you dont do it, but they are more fixable then if a big part of player base just leave and dont come back. I support you in idea to try it as tournament and it comes back as brand new very balanced gamemode in season 4. But most of people and gonna sit around, if you tell them they gotta play TA ranked they will go and play Ranked R6 cs etc. bc they are based on 5v5 action, not your chaotic fun game that requries adaptability to different situations to win. Please I love your game from bottom of my heart dont let die bc you think coping other is a good idea(maybe im wrong we will see), but from what I can tell you are betting on more players coming season 3 than leaving before it.

polar hill
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This game needs fsr 3.1 fg and dlss 3.7
I suggest updating the game engine to 5.4 in a future patch, as well as updating all available upscaling solutions to newer versions like DLSS to 3.7.0, XeSS to 1.3, and FSR to 3.1 (when that version gets released in the upcoming few weeks). UE 5.4 brings more optimizations which make the performance better and that should improve the general game experience for people in combination with the updated better upscalers. Also, add DirectStorage api to improve loading, there are times where all players are stuck to a loading screen for the match due to singular users with slower machines, and DiSto can eliminate/lower that.

signal basin
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DELETE THE LOW GRAVITY EVENT

strong sparrow
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TA is too slow paced for the finals, every error is unforgiving and it takes ages to finish even just a few rounds. the game clearly wasn't designed for TA and half of the abilities are disabled or nerfed, it makes no sense and it will be even harder to balance than cashout, i don't see why everyone wouldn't run full explosives and play from a distance

tulip kite
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I just read the new game announcement and Iā€™m not even mad anymore. Hopefully they take this season to make the cash out more viable for ranked.

celest berry
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This is the worst why hosting a tournament in a different mode than ranked?
revert s3 extend s2

"Cashout will never leave the spotlight as the most important part of THE FINALS. In fact, our first high-profile, official tournament will happen very soon and the mode will be Cashout. Make sure to be on the lookout for news about that!"

deft valve
shell nexus
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Here's my offer for the developer team with a purpose of making it nice for everyone: keep Cashout mode as a standard ranked mode, put TA to this new World Tour thing. I believe that's a good idea, since by this move you both will keep current players and attract new & test TA as a ranked mode without actually harming the current state of the game, which keeps many players. I don't like idea of making it 2 constant ranked mods, because I'm afraid we won't have enough people for that, but making TA as ranked available to be played rarely (only once a week, the way you want do it with Cashout) can attract more interest, at the same time making it less risky to lose current players

bleak coral
barren wyvern
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guys check out the new announcement

IMHO the changes might be a good move
terminal may bring new people more used to 5v5 tdm and increase the player count, while making cashout not ranked might make balancing quicker and make it competitively viable in s4 (for a potentially bigger playerbase)

these changes may not be sustainable in the long run tho so lets just use this season to aim practice in ranked ta and be ready for a hopefully more balanced cashout competitive season next season.

i was very skeptical yesterday but i changed my mind and i hope they cook!

still love this game and embark

(still if the playerbase shrinks make them both ranked pls)

thorny parcel
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I will say it again, Ranked Cashout should stay but make it 5v5 in a 2 round tournament.
Tbh I will mostly play ranked TA as I hated 3v3v3v3s

violet loom
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I don't mind the mode swap, what I do mind is OP melee weapons. Riot shield and Kali sticks ruined COD for a lot of people.
It's not FUN to die to melee.
Its fun to die in a gunfight. Maybe I'm on a minority opinion here but melee weapons should be meme weapons/only good in the hands of a god imo. The new weapons don't look fun to die to.

worn spade
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THE TERMINALS with identity problems be like:

glacial knot
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Add cronus zen detection to ban cronus users, many console players are using rapidfire and of corse also strong aim assit

quick coyote
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KEEP THE FINALS THE FINALS

knotty herald
wind moat
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Take a stand people. Raise your voices. Leave negative reviews on steam, stop playing the game so player numbers go down. Don't buy bundles. Only then will Embark be forced to revert these terrible changes to ranked. Who is making these dumb decisions to stray from their core gameplay and audience? 5v5 search and destroy have plenty of other better options

rose garden
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I will not be playing The Finals in Season 3. I dont play this game to play CSGO or Rainbowsix.

tidal shard
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Looking forward to the new map, maybe also make a version of a 3 v 3 terminal attack

tame quest
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I feel like "so we can make changes" is just fanfare talking. They make mid season changes all the time, on a weekly basis. What's going to change from that?

teal iris
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Seriously, a double blade, bow and spear as new weapons??

proven crown
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With the medium shotgun you shoot once, reload, but then reload three shells?

chrome basin
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@pearl kiln I hope cashout returns. Or at least gets improved upon. I feel like this gamemode is good for ranked if there were made some changes to it.

Like spawn positions are all over the place at the moment. You can die when holding a cashout and respawn on the other side of the map while still holding the cashout and there are two or more teams still fighting there. You should always be prioritised to spawn on a cashout if you are still holding it.

There is also just some horrible logic. Like spawning a team across the map of a cashout with 30 seconds left of the match. You are bound to lose because by the time you get there the match is over.

There is also the logic around how cashouts should work. Having to defend them and only lose the cashout when the timer is basically 0 is a horrible experience because you could theoretically be the best team but lose all cashouts at the very last second and be terminated from the tourney because you got third partied and RNG wasn't on your side.

And ofc some issue like HHH and MMM meta either stacked or mixed it dosnt matter. The game gets frustrating to play when you have classes that can do 140 damage in a second or insta heal up by the time you've reloaded your gun. Or God forbid you kill someone and the medium just revives them in less then 5 seconds. You have to end up killing a MMM team 6 times before actually wiping them. I hope there are improvements to these areas of the gamemode

regal gust
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@pearl kiln how are you guys going to buff the throwing knives when it already takes like 2 knives to eliminate and a light, 3 knives to eliminate a medium and a knife and a half to eliminate a heavy? On top of that what changes need to be made to the APS except for it's reliability. If the APS is meant to deflect projectiles, then how come people still find a way to destroy the APS with projectiles? šŸ¤” What you guys should fix is the Auto Turret and have it activate a little faster than it already does. And all the glitchy clothes and pink clothes I'm not sure if everyone are fans of that. I liked the CNS and CNS hoodie, and the new glitchy outfit was ok even tho I think you guys should have rewarded us with glitchy sneakers and not a weapon wrap to go with the new glitchy outfit on this last circuit contract. Love the game but fix all the one shit and one hit kills and the spawn trapping. It's making the game suck now

keen girder
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@pearl kiln Hello! Are there any talks of being able to launch a locally-hosted single player free roam mode so that we can explore the levels, familiarize ourselves, develop strategies, etc? I realize there is a two player private match. However, similar to the practice range, it would be nice to explore without a game play mode ticking in the background.

shrewd tundra
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Alright, world tour might be fine enough for me ngl, as long as they keep focusing on that gameshow vibe with that cashout mode in a competitive way then im all for it, terminal attack should also get love as people do like it, as long as embark can handle both sides of the playerbase then i will keep playing, excited for season 3 hug_friend

obtuse hinge
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It never works well if you want casual and ranked to be the same. Iā€™ve played games like this and I wish I could separate them so I can have a normal time in casual and play meta in ranked. Ranked is no place to learn new things

thick fiber
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I just wanna say in the midst of all of this controversy, nothing else out there feels as good to play, after playing The Finals I pretty much can't go back to playing other FPS games (except Titanfall 2 lmao)

dense fossil
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Embark please only make the game you want to make, for every person that complains there are 2 people enjoying the vision you had in the first place. Your game is fantastic, keep up the good work

muted cave
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This is actually so based, best take Iā€™ve read so far

last vapor
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hey i want a full refund of all the money i have spent on the game if you actually make terminal attack the new ranked mode, do you really wanna ruin your game like this embark?

empty fern
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Why does the stupid Terminal Attack mode have to be included and integrated into the ranked system? Why does The Finals have to jump on the CS or Valorant bandwagon now? Finals is great because of its other modes and doesn't need to be a CS clone.

paper stream
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I mean, there is only one obvious answer. If we don't like the changes of the ranked mode then we should take a break from The Finals. I only play ranked and I don't like the change so for me it will be going back to Apex.

elder basin
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I think they said ranked is the same but there's another rank portion... either way, as long as they listen to feedback to adjust its fine

polar frigate
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The reason this doesnt go down well with people is because youre essentially filling the player pool of people who want a fun experience with people who want nothing more than to win and they will do anything they can to do so. So Im not sure if this is rage bait or if youre genuinely confused but in no world would a casual want to go against a hardstuck gold player with 500 hours in the game....

graceful needle
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So... I've given some time to think about TA as the new ranking. Unpopular as it is to some of you? I LIKE IT.

It balances better, and if tweaked a little, will now require better teamwork elements, while showing requirement for better skill.

This is BEEF WELLINGTON.

It will freshen up things. I'm all in for it. As are all of my friends and co-workers that also play (and buy costume cash) The Finals.

delicate dirge
rose nacelle
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"Just let them cook, guys. You might like it!!"

I don't think you understand: Cashout and Bank It are a nice beef steak. Power Shift is a neat porkchop. Terminal Attack is sushi.

I don't like sushi, I don't like fish, and I didn't come to eat either of those. Why would I want the devs to cook a plate I didn't ask for.

earnest dagger
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will quick cash still be around? i cant see any mention of it and its the main mode i play. its got the most action!

meager sentinel
misty jay
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If TA is the only ranked mode next season, I'm done with the game and there's quite a few other people that I play with that feel the same way

orchid abyss
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Things im expecting this new season or at least being worked on:

āž”ļø Rework of the turret so now heals instead
āž”ļø Removal of the cloaking device, to be replaced with dematerializer. Specialization creates more problems than it solves and is the main reason some weapons got nerfed, as it actively removes their only disadvantage. Additionally, there's still a visual bug where cloaked enemies are completely invisible to players even when moving.
āž”ļø Swap Gateway to Heavy and Gravity Cube to Light (Heavy lacks mobility. In map variations such as Suspended Structures, Heavy is useless if a teammate doesn't correctly set up a gadget on time. However, he can throw objects further than everyone else and is expected to lead the fight, this synergizes perfectly with the suggested change)
āž”ļø A new healing specialization for the medium for ex. Healing Greande.
āž”ļø Increase HP for Medium and Heavy. High dps and low reload times of ALL Light class weapons can allow this type of buffs.
āž”ļø Fixed spawns so i dont get easily jumped when i defended successfully with no room to breathe and recover
āž”ļø Undo the projectile dispersion in RPG & the set charge-up time down to 0.6s again for the Defib (currently they feel so bad because of these changes made in 2.0.0)
āž”ļø SPAM restrictiongs for players abusing pings or comms wheel
āž”ļø Being able to see the loadouts of everyone ingame by pressing TAB+R
āž”ļø Reduce the time to trigger gadgets for heavy
āž”ļø M32 GL bullets explodes on hit
āž”ļø Option to report Griefers
āž”ļø Removal of Low Gravity event
āž”ļø Map filters
āž”ļø Remove primary guns that foster a free-for-all mentality (for ex. Sniper)
āž”ļø Stun Gun should be able to make players drop the cash box
āž”ļø Fix of exploits like animation cancel being abused by Sword players
āž”ļø Infographic display of ping, packet loss, server tick rate, FPS

I would be really grateful if any of this feedback gets considered. Regarding the TA, I will have to wait and test it. hug_friend

dreamy canopy
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Normal ranked should stay pls

winter wing
quick coyote
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Please add a monkey head mask it would be hella purchased because monkeys are awesome

gilded bloom
heady pecan
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I donā€™t agree with the change but yā€™all gotta stop saying youā€™re going to uninstall bc of a ranked mode change. Thatā€™s not feedback thatā€™s just you being a crybaby lol. Whole lotta ā€œYou just lost yourself a customer šŸ¤“ā€ ass responses

brittle marsh
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You guys should 100% add a 24/7 playlist of the new maps when they come out

carmine thistle
#

Personally not too excited for Ruby
But then again I haven't heard its full details.

What I do know though is that you have to** Keep the rank **(Mainly due to this reason) to earn its rewards which sounds like a massive chore doing it the whole season
Just sounds like you're promoting a race at the end of the season for anyone that realistically wants it. (if there's limited spots)

olive fulcrum
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Gives a chance for cashout to be fine tuned?
TA implementation is half baked. And now itā€™s implied that it wonā€™t be fine tuned for 3 months since it is the ranked mode.

Calling it now that this will be known as the darkest days of the finals; when embark was hellbent on conformity.

It makes me feel sick to know my fav game is taking such a huge blow. Is it Nexon that is putting you guys up to this? It has to be, right? This is insane

lavish shard
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I hope you do something for light in QP
P = light
Nerf this fucking TK

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rapid cairn
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How did you fix it?

solemn turret
rough herald
#

RPG actually still one shot light because on top of the 140 damage it also 10 emotional damage

regal ferry
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remove chat

odd ibex
supple pumice
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As someone who put a lot of time in ranked and just reached diamond I really hope you bring the real ranked back for season 4. No matter how much TA is improved I'm not interested in this kind of gamemode. World Tour sounds fun though. Hopefully it can keep the core community afloat till ranked cashout comes back. Thanks for the good time up to now embark namaheart

sharp briar
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If they get bad feedback when it comes out, I hope you realize that they will probably revert it so chill bros

plain sapphire
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This game has the worst ranked implementation in history of humankind, somehow they outdid themselves and removed the main mode from ranked. I refuse to believe someone did this for real, how can you be this bad at decisions??????

sudden tangle
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Giving light a slecialization to dig through walls (thermal bore) is as tone deaf as having the class with the most hp have a point and click aoe nuke that deals 140 dmg. Embark, what the fk is season 3?

Season 3 = shitty, unbalanced R6. So dumb.

drifting obsidian
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Fcar needs a buff. Itā€™s now way worse than the AKM.
-more recoil
-less dps
-less bullets in the mag

The only upside to the fcar is the sight on it.

stark remnant
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CANCEL TERMINAL ATTACK AS THE ONLY RANKED MODE
MAKE IT ANOTHER RANKED QUEUE WITH A SEPARATE RANK OR KEEP CASHOUT AS THE ONLY MODE

Please don't kill the game we all love, listen to your core players, not low elo loud minorities on social medias
We put money in this game for what it is, we welcome change but don't change the game's main and ranked mode, this makes NO SENSE AT ALL

knotty herald
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One more thing about TA situation:
I don't get the logic: If the World Tour is a bigger ranked Cashout, why not keep the usual ranked Cashout, so people can train for the World Tour, and add ranked TA, to interest some new people? Besides, with that kind of deal, people will be able to brag about getting 2 high ranks in 2 different mods

sharp herald
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I genuinely thought the bow would be the equivalent of the daggers for medium - Didn't think light needed another silent health deleter, cos they already have a silent health deleter.

floral plover
red raft
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for the new text chat, it would be really cool if you had a speech-to-text option so that people can read what people are saying in voice chat (apex had something like this)

lusty flicker
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No Terminal attack ranked replacement please keep cash out

polar frigate
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I see what youre trying to say and I'd agree if the world was black and white but this just isnt true, Yes anyone whos had their fun in ranked could theoretically go in casual and destroy a lobby but I think you missed the point. Im saying that your idea is only bringing all of those players who could/would destroy lobbies to casual. And there is nothing stopping someone from making an alt account, entering your proposed mode and destroying everyone anyway. Now instead of a seperate mode keeping account farmers out, they all get to streamline the process since its in one big mode. Again, no situation will ever be as black and white as Im saying but your idea seems to bring more cons then pros. I would like to see you further develop your idea because it is a very interesting take on a ranking system. But it seems almost unnecessary... I would like to talk about this more though, if youd like to chat dm since there is a 30min timer

upper citrus
static juniper
limpid tundra
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if cashout doesnā€™t have a ranked mode that goes to ruby and has its own separate leaderboard and it just simply becomes what terminal attack was then every competitive player who plays cashout and is committed to the game mode is going to quit. Terminal attack is a casual game mode and it blows my mind that the decision was made to make terminal attack the ranked game mode because if somebody wants to play 5v5 ranked search and destroy they will not be doing it on the finals. You guys seem to be looking in the wrong place for insight, if you want to know what needs to be done for ranked talked to the ranked players and actually get involved with the competitive community. Season 3 is the season you guys need to either make or break your game, the charm of the game comes from the fact that itā€™s unique and cashout is fun, gambling on more people coming to the game because of ranked terminal attack is extremely stupid and 100% will fail your game. Developers are making ignorant decisions as always

misty jay
frail wave
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Please drop the Season 3 OST Early so I can forget about cashouts death

next mortar
# limpid tundra if cashout doesnā€™t have a ranked mode that goes to ruby and has its own separate...

This is exactly right. I was TOTALLY on board with Ranked Terminal Attack! I have no issue with it personally! But you CANNOT remove cashout ranked. This is an insult to those of us who spent HUNDREDS of hours grinding, improving, and making content all around this 1 gamemode. THE FINALS is defined by Cashout. It's the highest skill ceiling gamemode that makes the entire game a completely unique FPS title. You guys stated your first major tournament is going to be in the cashout mode. So I have two questions. Where's ranked cashout and wheres the spectator mode we've all been waiting for?

I love THE FINALS more than every person in this discord server. I have put more time into my THE FINALS content than EVERY other YouTuber including Ottr. But let me tell you, players and content creators like me are DONE with this game if there's no cashout mode. If I'm being honest that's not even the only concern. Even if you added cashout back to ranked mode, you still havent addressed ANY of the progression issues in the game that have been a scar on the content creation community. This season has no chance of bringing any content creators or streamers in.

You guys want to host big tournaments right? THE FINALS takes place in an esports arena right? This game has no future without Cashout. There are many issues I could list with the game like no leveling, no ranked progression, no profile statistics, recent players list doesnt work, death match event doesnt work, and more. But none of it matters if we make the decision right now to leave cashout forever.

Put both modes in Ranked. And then please address the other issues that scared away every content creator like a plague. Thank you for your time.

quick coyote
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dann

latent shoal
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I just want to say, change in season 3 is amazing. I'm so hype for the s3, thanks embark for changing your game even if it upset some people. The game is Amazing ā¤ļø this is the best fps since years. Plz make a chan to spread our love for the game

fading flame
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Throwing knives 4 hit kills a medium and gets too much movement without dash. Itā€™s op. Nerf it

lusty portal
#

KEEP RANKED AS CASHOUT!

robust nexus
#

If terminal attack is the only ranked game mode what is the point of the name "THE FINALS"?

F for all those ranked hours spent improving my skill at cashout.

Why can't both exist?

topaz smelt
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terminal attack is better lmao

wind summit
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Guys, this might be good in the long run. Cashout has had issues being a competitive scene. It's why a lot of people tried The Finals, said ranked was too confusing, and then left. Cashout won't be going away, but it's going to be tweaked. Dusty said this:

It's good to note that doing this for Season 3 gives us a chance to work on Cashout and make vital improvements to the mode that would have been difficult to do when itā€™s locked into ranked for a whole season. This will give us a chance to make Cashout more viable as a competitive mode in the future.

Cashout will never leave the spotlight as the most important part of THE FINALS. In fact, our first high-profile, official tournament will happen very soon and the mode will be Cashout. Make sure to be on the lookout for news about that!

I imagine they are going to experiment with a lot of different tweaks and changes in the World Tour for Cashout and will be gathering feedback on how to make it more fair for competitive play. That's something they can't do while it's in a ranked mode where players want some stability. I imagine in Season 4, this revised Cashout mode will become the ranked mode again. We just have to give them time.

broken geyser
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TA is only a temporary competitive mode. They're using the world tour thingy to improve cashout and it'll be the main comp mode again

Also are we finally getting facial hair this season

teal bear
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Holy fuck the heel turn of this community is disgusting. Let the devs cook. If it doesn't work they will make changes.

scenic basin
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I hope come Tuesday when we click on ranked we have the option of world tour or terminal attack, it makes no logical to have ranks cut off at a certain point in world tour. Honestly this should work the other way around, in terminal attack you should rank no further than gold because most of us have played s&d in some fps at some point and then gold and up in world tour, because no other fps has a cashout game mode. Just a thought...

coral ibex
# wind summit Guys, this might be good in the long run. Cashout has had issues being a competi...

ranked is confusing because the ranked SYSTEM is confusing, not because of cashout. Also balancing cashout while ranked is TA is going to be a lot more difficult bow because they have to balance two games at once while maintaining parity between the two. And if cashout is the main focus, it should be the ranked mode. TA as ranked is nothing but a desperate attempt to get more players from the valorant crowd

fair bough
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POV: Investors find out that tac shooters have higher player numbers šŸ¤”

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safe mauve
#

WHY ARE THEY REMOVING DAMAGE DONE IN TERMINAL ATTACK

copper sphinx
stray rampart
quick coyote
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MONKE MASK

civic ginkgo
#

Hype is through the roof and all I must say isā€¦

Templar Knight armour..

And light sword..

Thatā€™s all I want

spring valley
drifting gorge
#

Ok I disagree with TA being the only ranked mode but you guys cooked with this season, it looks šŸ”„

lavish shard
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TK TK TK TK TK meta is horrible šŸ¤®šŸ¤®šŸ¤®šŸ˜”

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pliant raptor
brittle obsidian
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TA already had a huge leaver issue, even with the casual ban. Now that there's stakes at play, its probably going to be even worse unless there's real consequences for leaving.

untold willow
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not even main comp mode, the comp mode for it will no longer exist

fiery orbit
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I geniunely think you did a great job, and I love it. But I also think that you could do a lil bit more of the equipment, 3 weapon is great, I must understand that specifically these ones were hard to make, but 1 gadget? 1 spec I can agree, but 1 gadget is not really much, so I have an idea to make more gadgets throughout the season, maybe 2 more. And also, to make people not obtain all the equipment, maybe reset the currency with every season, to make more things to grind for

rotund tapir
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Instead of having terminal attack as the only ranked gamemode maybe have cashout and terminal attack as to separate ranked modes like call of duty does instead of making a pretty much new gamemode the only ranked gamemode

quick coyote
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Only in a perfect world ^

unique sinew
#

Tha Nades have no indicators that would be very helpful. Sometimes i die to random nade. But the game is great i like it a lot.

crisp oxide
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DONT TAKE AWAY RANKED TOURNAMENTS YOU EVIL EVIL PEOPLE PLZ GOD PLZ IT WILL END THE MOST FUN GAME IVE EVER HAD

lilac tide
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Best fps devs in the biz right now. Keep it up!

misty gazelle
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Joined a game of quick cash midgame. All of my slots had the defib icon and the text "FLAMETHROWER". Game crashed a few seconds after. 10/10 game would play again

quick coyote
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The "Deal x damage to the arena using arena carryables" challenge is broken. I keep throwing around red canisters into walls and buildings and it just won't count anything. Can someone help me?

terse slate
nocturne fern
#

events and map modifiers ruin the game. (in ranked)

sharp briar
#

CAN YOU REACHā€¦.. THE DECRYPTION

lilac coral
wind gulch
#

happy to hear ranked cashout tournaments are staying, excited to see the World Tour spin on it. Thanks guys. Ref to Dusty's update in #game-announcements

fringe pollen
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I think we can all agree that Embark is really communicative with its player base. However, I think this time they should have mentioned the World Tour in the trailer or at least right after it and before everyone (including myself) went nuts, not 17 hs later. I'm hyped for this World Tour game mode and I want to know more about it, especially if it's a way to improve it for the S4 ranked mode

On another note, I'd like to know how many people actually played TA in S2, and how many of those were base players versus new players who might have unknowingly entered the first mode that they found when selecting game modes idk, it's hard for me to believe base players who played ranked choose this mode over cashout.

deep mantle
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Everyone is way overreacting. Try the new season first before everyone complains

tame lynx
candid flower
#

I have a feeling op stuff is gonna be in the next season

young grove
dreamy gull
magic stratus
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People overreacting to TA. Devs clearly state they are refining cashout for more competitive play. It's clearly going to come back in an official ranked way.

brisk juniper
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I hope this won't be read negatively! I'm still waiting on the season to start to give a real opinion, but seeing that it doesn't seem there will be a "cashout" ranked mode is really disappointing. The Finals is the first fps that I really fell in love with. I've played CS, CS2, Valorant and other games that have similar mechanics, none of them caught my interest the same. I only played along because of friends but never had the interest in opening and playing the games on my own. They all felt boring.

The Finals (original ranked) had a fast paced, fun and dynamic very novel feel. It's what made me grind to diamond. It's also what made me play every chance I got, whether I could drag friends along, or not.

I did the terminal game mode because I'm a completionist so I like gathering all free rewards, but it gave me the same "ugh" feeling as other fps. The boring feeling that always made me avoid them. I don't want to discourage the team's effort to make the game better and to try things but as it's a feedback channel, I wanted to express my disappointment. There's so many games out there that do just that and I think it's a shame not to stay behind what made The Finals so fun and unique!

I really hope the cashout tournament can make its way back as I'm really scared I might actually lose my first ever fps interest.

misty jay
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Make the devs hear your voice. Sign this petition to keep Cashout as a ranked gamemode

https://chng.it/RLSrHRSpfB

I'm all for having TA as an alternate ranked gamemode but taking away the game's core identity in the ranked cashout tournament is a huge mistake.

patent wind
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Embark (or Nexon if this was their fault) I love that you have been working on TA and you wanted to revise cashout to make it better for the future. What I don't understand is why cashout can't be worked on while being ranked... I think most people would rather deal with that than not having ranked cashout at all. Most people who agree with me don't want to graind TA. It's boring. I'm not here to play a tactical shooter

sudden stump
copper lily
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NOBODY loves this kinda foreign gamemode in The Finals.
It doesn't fit this game at all.
Not on this maps, not with this TTK we have in game currently.
It's so weird having "ranked" in game where you just cant use some of core features: No hp regen, no quick gadget recharge, no heal, no defibs/revives and MOST IMPORTANT no vaults and cashouts.
And this 100hp regen thing. it's so fucking dumb, because, imagine this situation where is 1 players left from each teams. One of them is L, and one is H, or even M.
Light has more movespeed, has more damage at every distance and light is less depended on gadgets.
But still having same hp as H, that relies on his gadgets so much, has turtle movement, and can't really do much damage with 100 hp.
Trust me this game mode would be a boring shithole, where is 90% plays Light with LH1 and cloak. It just would be some fucking cs2 and roblox hybrid.
#savecashout

desert fern
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Just woke up and read the announcements
And thank you Embark for setting the record straight it's sad that I'll not be able to get diamond next season but I do think Cashout needs some rework and if this does help fix all the glaring issues I faced all season I an here for it!!!! hug_friend hug_friend namaheart namaheart

serene cypress
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Absolutely stupid decision to change the ranked mode. Makes it the same as other fps games I don't play because of these stupid modes....

runic shale
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Excited for S3! Would be cool if our teams had more of an identity like mascots, theme songs, etc. Also if we had optional kill cam when we died that was like an intense sportscast, with fixed body/gun cameras and more coverage to the more active players. But also optional, cuz i like to plan my next moves with the free roam too.

opaque leaf
limpid tundra
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they donā€™t have the player base to delay cashout ranked because they think it needs changes they need to address the reasons top ranked players quit the game in the first place and get to the root of those issues instead of fixing the problems they are just delaying them and inevitably killing their game. regardless even if there was going to be cashout and terminal attack ranked, itā€™s still a stupid decision to make a game mode that is pretty much a completely different game. People came to the finals because of the breathe of fresh air from 5v5 snd tac shooters and then they make 5v5 snd the main ranked game mode? If the goal is to appeal to the people who play 5v5 snd games then just make a cashout ranked and a completely separate ta ranked. If the main competitive mode isnā€™t cashout how can you balance it properly. We saw what happened this season when balancing things based on casual which is played completely different and the player base plummeted. They seem to be under the impression that the cashout format is what made their game lose players when it reality itā€™s because you guys are so out of touch with your players which is clearly happening again. Why make such a stupid decision?

terse sapphire
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they donā€™t have the player base to delay cashout ranked because they think it needs changes they need to address the reasons top ranked players quit the game in the first place and get to the root of those issues instead of fixing the problems they are just delaying them and inevitably killing their game. regardless even if there was going to be cashout and terminal attack ranked, itā€™s still a stupid decision to make a game mode that is pretty much a completely different game. People came to the finals because of the breathe of fresh air from 5v5 snd tac shooters and then they make 5v5 snd the main ranked game mode? If the goal is to appeal to the people who play 5v5 snd games then just make a cashout ranked and a completely separate ta ranked. If the main competitive mode isnā€™t cashout how can you balance it properly. We saw what happened this season when balancing things based on casual which is played completely different and the player base plummeted. They seem to be under the impression that the cashout format is what made their game lose players when it reality itā€™s because you guys are so out of touch with your players which is clearly happening again. Why make such a stupid decision?

slim prawn
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I'm not gonna type an entire angry comment about it but I do agree terminal attack is not the finals. It's another game mode that we are playing in the finals sandbox. It's disappointing as a comp player to be forced to have to play terminal attack as I believe is extremely poorly balanced. I didn't enjoy the gamemode when it was introduced this season and hearing that it's gonna be my only form of comp is so painful. Identity loss??

stuck forum
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Have we come to the realization that ranked players are outnumbered by non rank players? If yā€™all believe in a democracy, and TA got embark more exposure, let them cook. Try out the world tour, and if itā€™s shit, yā€™all can quite like you want to already, but TRY IT first.

rough herald
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i will stay in plat for the rest of season 3 boys
im not playing ta for the same reason i quit cs and val

daring mesa
#

Please rework the lobby ui, it looks like a mobile game.

safe mauve
vestal basin
#

Add a new class called Giant, with 450 health and have ability to throw players up to the sky

@raven crystal you are genius, I knew someone will catch up.

tame crag
quartz cedar
#

Do not let a full 5-man group get matched vs solo queuers in TA ranked.
Please look into a system that will make it more fair for all.

wind kayak
#

Hello everyone, I have a problem when I launch The Finals on my new computer. The game crashes during shader decompilation, and here is the crash report message.

wintry musk
sudden spire
#

The throwable key was cool and unique šŸ˜ž

fair osprey
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I just don't really like that you've made Terminal Attack even more similar to other SnD Gamemodes; throwing the Decryption key into a Terminal was a really fun thing to do and now it's gonna be gone... Destruction gets reset too? Cmonnn. I don't want TA to feel dragged out and a "set-up" phase just makes TA become even more like R6S/CS/Valorant. You're making TA even less unique, something that I had been defending about yesterday. Definitely disappointed with these changes.

ebon hemlock
pseudo latch
feral shell
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Please increase the HP regen to 150 for ranked TA. Itā€™s not competitively balanced if snipers can just anyone people in one shot.

slow sentinel
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Looking forward to getting curb stomped in terminal attack as a solo player

merry prism
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You know honestly, I don't know how this is gonna play out, but I think I can deal with grinding these world tour things over playing ranked, I just hope the rewards are decent for players who suck... like me

magic stratus
vague sigil
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embark thank you guys hug_friend i believe in your decisions & dont let the toxicity move you

eager shard
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stop with this cod mechanic where the first few games gives you awful team mates against diamonds, it doesnt entice people to play more or buy skins

languid valley
final willow
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I literally do not care if TA is ranked and if they have World Tour, just let me reach Ruby/Emerald in World Tour and I will be happy!

wintry trout
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super excited for medium and heavy to get additional gear to negate their movement disadvantages vs. light
/s

compact sleet
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All I know is we better be able to heal, Rez and have our cooldowns back for rank!!

TA is by far the worst and most unbalanced piece of crap I played in the last 3 years of any gameā€¦. The tank players will be walking around with 75HP basically after each fight which just kills the class all together. 2nd that makes the light class the best in this mode because you can just snipe/Lh1 from across the map making the game even more trashā€¦.

To fix this just simply REMOVE those crappy rules with all these loadout rules and whoever came up with no heals, rez or passive heals need to be removed from the team and needs to be studied šŸ˜‚šŸ’Æ

acoustic tundra
limpid tundra
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full thing of like everything iā€™ve said: if cashout doesnā€™t have a ranked mode that goes to ruby and has its own separate leaderboard and it just simply becomes what terminal attack was then every competitive player who plays cashout and is committed to the game mode is going to quit. Terminal attack is a casual game mode and it blows my mind that the decision was made to make terminal attack the ranked game mode because if somebody wants to play 5v5 ranked search and destroy they will not be doing it on the finals. You guys seem to be looking in the wrong place for insight, if you want to know what needs to be done for ranked talked to the ranked players and actually get involved with the competitive community. Season 3 is the season you guys need to either make or break your game, the charm of the game comes from the fact that itā€™s unique and cashout is fun, gambling on more people coming to the game because of ranked terminal attack is extremely stupid and 100% will fail your game. Developers are making ignorant decisions as always. they donā€™t have the player base to delay cashout ranked because they think it needs changes they need to address the reasons top ranked players quit the game in the first place and get to the root of those issues instead of fixing the problems they are just delaying them and inevitably killing their game. regardless even if there was going to be cashout and terminal attack ranked, itā€™s still a stupid decision to make a game mode that is pretty much a completely different game. People came to the finals because of the breathe of fresh air from 5v5 snd tac shooters and then they make 5v5 snd the main ranked game mode? If the goal is to appeal to the people who play 5v5 snd games then just make a cashout ranked and a completely separate ta ranked. If the main competitive mode isnā€™t cashout how can you balance it properly. We saw what happened this season when balancing things based on casual which is played completely different and the player base plummeted. They seem to be under the impression that the cashout format is what made their game lose players when it reality itā€™s because you guys are so out of touch with your players which is clearly happening again. Why make such a stupid decision? the competitive community and competitive content creators are the base of any community of course the player base will be many many casual players as well, but people discover games through the big content creators and in this games case those big content creators pretty much only play ranked not terminal attack. most of the competitive community will quit the game and if they donā€™t quit because of terminal attack it will be because of the fact that the devs donā€™t know their own game and nobody wants to continue committing to something that is clearly a lost cause if the developers donā€™t even know their game. Casual players will in time end up not playing the game because they are casual players and thatā€™s what they do. They are just taking their player base apart piece by piece. Most competitive players have been trusting that the developers will finally make the changes that are right in season 3 and thatā€™s why they have stuck around, but now they just proved that the developers are hopeless.

untold willow
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ik there's a lot of hate around this change. Justified in my opinion even though harsh. I just wanted to ask if you guys are going to add a "Final Round" private match setting ?that way we can make our own tournaments

coral axle
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DAY 15 OF ASKING FOR FSR 3.0 AND FRAME GENERATION!

safe mauve
tender sail
#

Did you know, if you pull the pin on a grenade then get shot IRL, it still goes off!

Also, Charge & Slam is the dumbest ability I've ever witnessed

hazy furnace
#

Terminal attack for ranked is garbage honestly

cold bolt
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idk embark, a season lasts a long time and I don't think it's wrong of me to say you had plenty of time to make adjustments to cash out rather than put it on the bench for s3 in favor of a Walmart cs/val/r6s experience

I don't think it's wrong for ppl to be up in arms about this direction considering you may not even have a playerbase by the time s4 comes around bc of TA.

Cash out being on this world tour mode or whatever just won't hit the same when it only goes to gold and has less players

very disappointed, this was the best fps I've played in years

edit: also with TA being the new ranked I worry we will get balancing with the mode in mind when it's only for s3, this game needs to be balanced around cashout full stop, imagine the balancing mess we will have by s4 when cash out returns bc we listen to TA players?

upper citrus
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Making ranked terminal attack for one season only is kind of okay? Still no idea why we canā€™t have both. But how are you going to keep the players around for this season??????

misty jay
fervent vortex
#

games identity just died, its now a cheap knockoff, if it stays above 10k players after a month it would be a miracle, hope devs wake up and save game

dreamy belfry
#

Hi everyone, I hope a lot of people see I understand everyone's concerns with The Finals and fortunately we have received news from the Embark team.
-First of all World Tour is Ranked Tournament only it has been changed to have more freedom to improve the core game mode and be added back in the future in an improved form to the main ranked game, one of the developers said this was more because they felt they could not alter the Cashout mode being permanently in Ranked. (And yes it will still be competitive but with changes every two weeks to incentivize improving the mode and trying new things)
-They have said that Ranked Terminal Attack is still a separate game mode, the main focus and the main mode on which they will always be based working on the game and to this day remains a priority is the original mode that came with The Finals and that is Cashout.
In short they have not eliminated Ranked Tournament as such, but it has been renamed with the idea that it is not
only the main Ranked mode and to work on its improvement

novel lily
#

Please don't make the katanas just a reskin of the baton, I saw they both can block bullets and are for medium, don't make them basically the same

quick coyote
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Got this interesting bug where the colors of my outfit didn't load...
So, how about a black rabbit mask? It looks good in my opinion.

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unique slate
stoic wigeon
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thank you embark. you have made an impossibly great game against all the odds. The Finals puts AAA gaming to shame. yall should be proud of the work youā€™ve put out! i know the heads here are ruthless in their criticisms. it comes from an immense amount of love for what you have accomplished as a team, so thank you for everything so far! looking forward to S3 even if itā€™s not what i expected!

terse lark
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think you guys are overreacting a little bit

copper holly
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I love that cashout is becoming more of a game show event, 24 players is absolutely magnificent and I feel like i definitely over reacted. Mostly just scared because I love the game so much. I trust yall embark, keep up the good work < 3

nimble gale
#

Sounds expressions should match your character voice,female/male

chilly umbra
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Cosmetic loadouts please :)

true harness
#

I'll keep my feedback short and simple. Instead of trying to have Terminal Attack mimic "Search and Destroy", it should mimic "Cyber Attack." Cyber Attack allows more of The Finals core gameplay to shine through, since revives are permitted, which means items and gadgets don't have to be prohibited. It would make the mode far more enjoyable.

compact holly
# terse lark think you guys are overreacting a little bit

100%, bunch of whiny babies over a game mode change that could very well boost the player base. Itā€™s not like cash out tourneys are going anywhere either. Gonna have theyā€™re own leaderboard and rewards and what not Iā€™m pretty sure. Iā€™m excited personally.

tropic tendon
#

Terminal attack is best game mode keep forever plz do petition

hoary quail
#

So is it just 5v5 then you win the ranked match in TA? or there's other teams of 5v5 also?

robust breach
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hi joined the server to say this, by far my favourite fps iv played in recent years! PLEASE do not change ranked to terminal attack only! the game is not CS or Valorant or seige and I dont want it to be

gilded sage
#

Sorry for whoever has to read through all of these. Gamersā„¢ were never known for logical reactions. Keep up the great work!

celest lichen
#

Sir... I think this situation seems like
"
League of legends rank system change.
Not Summoner's Gorge !
instead, ARAM (Casual mode)
"

next mortar
olive jetty
#

This game definitely needs Cashout to be the main mode. I personally will not be playing or spending money in season 3 (and I buy a lot of cosmetic bundles, lol) if the main ranked mode is TA. I don't like tactical shooters. They're boring and too easy, and they don't jive with the theme of the game whatsoever. I've sunk all of my time before this into Dirty Bomb and Team Fortress 2, and I'm more than happy to go play more Highlander and 6's TF2 and dedicate my time there again. I don't think anyone in the group I play with will be that interested in playing TA either. We're all Diamond players, and they're D1 players, and the only reason they stop is because of the double heavy comps. Fix that issue, and you fix one of the big reasons people quit after hitting Diamond

spiral hemlock
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pls make heavy grenade launcher explode on impact with players and shields, like the glitch nade. that would leave the cool bounce effect for when you want it and be able to dish damage when you donā€™t

p.s. itā€™s clear a lot of you havenā€™t read the recent game announcement channel explaining whatā€™s actually happening with ranked

devout kernel
#

ive been getting this message "this game requires safe boot on capable hardware" how do i fix this? -=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-

solar stone
wintry trout
#

Flamethrower already has a TTK on light of about 2 seconds or less. If you add in the fact that they get a free 93% hp wipe with RPG, light dies in an instant to flamethrower. If flamethrower and RPG have not been adjusted and heavy gets to just pull people in with this new winch claw thing, light will be pretty much dead because it'll simply have no chance of competing and its movement speed and abilities will be 100% negated and it'll just be a medium with 150 hp and die instantly to any heavy loadout.

split wasp
#

hey @pearl kiln
Not here to stoke fires just curious and would like an answer, is medium receiving any gadgets or specializations this season?

past flint
#

Lower cosmetic prices you go broke after customising 1 character

shut aspen
#

I love Terminal Attack, but I kinda wanna keep ranked cashout too šŸ™
Is there a low player count that would make keeping both ranked playlists unsustainable?
I'm willing to give Terminal Attack a chance though

orchid abyss
#

Things im expecting this new season or at least being worked on:

āž”ļø Rework of the turret, so now heals instead
āž”ļø Removal of the cloaking device, to be replaced with dematerializer. Specialization creates more problems than it solves and is the main reason some weapons got nerfed, as it actively removes their only disadvantage. Additionally, there's still a visual bug where cloaked enemies are completely invisible to players even when moving.
āž”ļø Swap Gateway to Heavy and Gravity Cube to Light (Heavy lacks mobility. In map variations such as Suspended Structures, Heavy is useless if a teammate doesn't correctly set up a gadget on time. However, he can throw objects further than everyone else and is expected to lead the fight, this synergizes perfectly with the suggested change)
āž”ļø A new healing specialization for the medium for ex. Healing Greande.
āž”ļø Increase HP for Medium and Heavy. High dps and low reload times of ALL Light class weapons can allow this type of buffs.
āž”ļø Fixed spawns so i dont get easily jumped when i defended successfully with no room to breathe and recover
āž”ļø Undo the projectile dispersion in RPG & the set charge-up time down to 0.6s again for the Defib (currently they feel so bad because of these changes made in 2.0.0)
āž”ļø SPAM restrictiongs for players abusing pings or comms wheel
āž”ļø Being able to see the loadouts of everyone ingame by pressing TAB+R
āž”ļø Reduce the time to trigger gadgets for heavy
āž”ļø M32 GL bullets explodes on hit
āž”ļø Option to report Griefers
āž”ļø Removal of Low Gravity event
āž”ļø Map filters
āž”ļø Remove primary guns that foster a free-for-all mentality (for ex. Sniper)
āž”ļø Stun Gun should be able to make players drop the cash box
āž”ļø Fix of exploits like animation cancel being abused by Sword players
āž”ļø Infographic display of ping, packet loss, server tick rate, FPS

I would be really grateful if any of this feedback gets considered. Regarding the TA, I will have to wait and test it. hug_friend

rugged temple
patent night
obsidian solar
#

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

  • While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
  • Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
  • Increase damage from 84 to 90
  • Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)

FIX THE FOV WHEN HOLDING THE SHIELD UP:

  • Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

HOLDING THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

  • Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

GIVE SMOKE GRENADES TO ALL CLASSES:

  • Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from
light tinsel
safe mauve
visual nymph
misty jay
broken musk
#

i appreciate u embark, pog updates hug_friend

graceful needle
# robust nexus If terminal attack is the only ranked game mode what is the point of the name "T...

Honestly, it (likely) has to do with the cost of servers. The server space and usage is NOT CHEAP. So, as with the changes, one can look at the expected number of players coming in for S3 is going to likely occupy a lot of arenas in-game. And TA, PS, as well as the other game modes are going to crash, if two Ranks run congruently.

This is my take on the matter. Some of the choices are to lessen the burden. Now, if we want two ranked modes to handle the "stress test"? More of us should be buying "costume cash". It would certainly help pay for the servers.

quick coyote
#

If they added like an emerald or sapphire rank to world tour people would like it I bet

frail trout
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Changing ranked to terminal attack, all of my diamond buddies, including myself are out. We'll play other games that implement it better. CASHOUT was what made the game novel. I've put 600+ hours on the game, but with the proposed season 3 changes to ranked it has left a bad taste in my mouth. I was rooting so hard for this game, but Embark completely gutted what gave this game it's identity. I ain't spending another dime on the game, and I''ve spent probably upwards of $160 on it, because I was in love with this game. Game was dying, but this will kill the hardcore playerbase Embark said they were trying to solidify. Go look at what Gigz, Lycommit, and pookout are playing, it ain't this.

frosty wagon
#

I just wanna get plat before s3 (I'm gold 1 rn) and I'm playing with my friend (silver 1) and we get put in a full lobby of diamonds? How is that fair

quick coyote
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any performance improvements?

#

Monke mask

robust nexus
#

Give us more options for ranked not less in S3 please.

worn spade
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congratulations THE TERMINALS, you finally returned to 15k players after a week, now add MnK support on consoles

wraith topaz
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Please do not main ranked TA, that game mode is so ass and it takes away the main niche of this game. Of having chaos and a fast pace fps. The whole gameplay will be so much slower and honestly I would rather play cs or valo if I was looking for a 5v5.

All my teammates and I are d1 s1 , diamonds s2. And all of us are seriously quitting the game if TA becomes the main ranked mode.

unreal quail
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u all gotta stop being mean :( i think theyā€™ve got it by now and the devs are wonderful pple and there gonna listen
iā€™m not saying everyone but thereā€™s been like abunch of mean thingys said abt them n that sucks :<

whole acorn
#

it takes a full magazine to kill one person with any gun

hollow valve
#

I have been playing medium so long that I have forgotten that
Heavy Is The Easiest Class Period

Can't be easier to play the game after some literally mental torture due to god awful balance and matchmaking.

jagged cedar
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Ranked ta is such a tone deaf decision

timber crescent
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Make terminal attack 6v6 (two teams of 3 on each side) and make it into a round of the tournament! It makes tournaments more unique and exciting and works perfectly since two teams (6 players) always progress out of each match! This means tournaments will have one round of cash out, one round of terminal attack, and one final round of 1v1 cash out!

valid prism
quick coyote
limpid tundra
gusty wagon
#

can we please get a reload cancel button? i can switch equipment to reload cancel but if i dont have any equipment left, i can no longer reload cancel. please do something about this

vagrant lake
#

U N D O T H R O W I N G K N I F E C H A N G E

chilly umbra
autumn vine
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People are completely overreacting to the changes in ranked modes, the changes only really have upside for the new season and the future of the game. Making cash out separate from ranked is super smart since it lets them revamp the game mode without having to worry about people being outraged after each small change, if people are worried about ranks not being high enough then it isnā€™t difficult for them to add more. They also said that it is still the main focus of the game so we donā€™t have to worry about all resources going to terminal attack. For terminal attack, the game didnā€™t feel right because the balancing wasnā€™t good, and they clearly care about working on the balancing of it to make it a viable game mode, itā€™s also important to have a competitive mode for larger parties as 3 is a pretty small group of people. The main problem that I see with this mode change and also with power shift is that the balancing of items gets messed up by them. If terminal attack becomes a main game mode then people will start complaining about the balancing of items specific to that mode, and if changes are tailored for modes that are different than cash out then it will become a whole mess. My suggestion would be to have different balancing for the different modes but that could lead to issues with resource management and also just items not being standardized so Iā€™m not quite sure how to deal with things

tight verge
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I lost another 20-30 average fps this patch. seriously guys this is unacceptable. at this rate Im going to be playing an interactive slideshow choose your own adventure by season 4

slim prawn
strong sparrow
misty jay
wet gyro
rancid bone
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Wth were yā€™all thinking with the throwing knife buff, yes it needed buffed but not by that much, it takes 0 skill to get free kills

unique slate
languid valley
#

wall of text
I'm 99% certain they have this channel muted so it feels a bit stupid writing anything here, it's like directing all my recommendations to a shreder.
For reference I was top 170 in the game earlier in the season, >4 KD rn so I hope this adds some credibility to my suggestions.

They could add soo many things that the community needs and is universally agreed by everyone is required instead of whatever they were thinking with making TA the official ranked.

  • Text Chat (They're gonna add it but it's team only, but good start)
  • Killcams
  • Spectator Mode (Super important for private tournaments and they just disregard it)
  • Gamemodes good for new players so I can actually suggest it to my friends (TDM / King of the hill would be awesome).
    Currently it's too hard to recommend this game to my friends followed by "yeah valorant gamemode is now official gamemode" šŸ˜­
  • TA Is a gimmick and removes all uniqueness from game, last thing I'd ever want to see as the official ranked gamemode.
  • A bit more thought into the nerfs/reworks. This is a long list but it feels like a lot of the nerfs / reworks could've been handled
    better.
    Few examples
    they should've kept the wallhack ability for medium but solely for the intel aspect of it (not wallhack).
    Change it to 3 changes, each charge just pings everyone once. (That's it)
    U need 2 charges to determine which way a team is moving, u can't really get any info mid fight and is just useful for positioning.
    Useless for solo players and waste of a slot but for cordinated teams a godsent to avoid 3rd parties and that's something I wouldn't mind dropping a medigun for.
    C4s: the issue was never the c4, it was that it was mobile
    Setting up a trap with 2 c4 is fine, not putting it on a barrel.
    Should've just made it so stuff with c4 on it can't be moved.

Instead of experimenting with risky stuff like this they should prob focus on adding stuff universally requested.
Will only improve game, why risk it?
Ok go play gejm now

untold meadow
#

when you already have a tough time trying to get a 3 stack now you gotta find a 5 stack... genius

tropic swift
# autumn vine People are completely overreacting to the changes in ranked modes, the changes o...

The game is entirely balanced and designed based on Cashout. TA, while it has fun aspects, does not fully express what The Finals was designed for.
I really feel like TA or other modes should be more on the casual side instead of bringing that to competitive since it creates more diverse opinions within the community that creates confusion for the devs and really changes the direction for The Finals for possible worse.

fading flame
#

I canā€™t get into a game of ranked and last time I tried. Waited for 40 minutes. I wanna play the game

copper sphinx
quick coyote
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bout to unisntall this game if they make terminal attack the ranked mode, like wtf is this? rainbow six siege and valorant mutated child?????

teal minnow
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This is to everyone who is about the leave the game bc of ranked changes : DON'T
Embark said that they are reworking cashout right now and it will come back as main ranked , ??maybe mid season??
So to all of you ,stay loyal for the thing you've been loyal to ,together we can make a change!hug_friend

wind kayak
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Can someone help me? When I launch the game, it crashes and I get this error message. : EpicAccountId:

Hang detected on GameThread: 0x00007ffb9c4afb04 ntdll.dll!UnknownFunction [] 0x00007ffb997e952e KERNELBASE.dll!UnknownFunction [] 0x00007ff648c60dd0 Discovery.exe!UnknownFunction [] Check log for full callstack.

ntdll
KERNELBASE
Discovery

sonic raft
#

The ability to rename our contestant loadouts would be nice

worldly scaffold
#

Remove the sniper rifle from Powershift, I'm so damn tired of that gun being in the game. Since SEASON 1 people have been asking to remove that thing, and I don't think I have heard a damn beep from the devs regarding it. It doesn't fit in the game, Power shift is prime example of this. Just, remove it, period. So close to be done with this game... Will wait and see what Season 3 brings in more dtail. EDIT: NEw map looks super cool, weapons too look fun, props for that. Don't care about ranked, and never will personally.

worn spade
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congratulations THE TERMINALS, you finally returned to 15k players after a week, now add MnK support on consoles

quick coyote
#

MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY PET AND MASK PLEASE

shut hamlet
#

Crack cocaine would be a pretty cool addition to the game

storm quarry
#

im sure devs will hear us crying about MM

cold bolt
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ngl the most likely outcome I see from s3 being THE TERMINALS for a whole 3 months is alienating your current playerbase as well as quickly losing any new players that were briefly brought in for start of season after realizing it's just a walmart csgo/val/r6s experience, will be very surprised if the game has healthy playercount by end of s3

I just hope that if on the off chance TA does get well received, we don't have embark go back on their word to return to cash out s4 and onward.

@plush fjord lights are only good against bad players in casual modes, they are really bad in ranked and need a rework as a whole so that there isn't such a contrasting difference in opinion from casuals and ranked players lol, it's so interesting how players like you think light is the devil while in ranked they're just useless flies buzzing around

heavy is by far the best class all around, why do you think the current meta is HHM lol, the lmgs are very easy to use and hit hard and have large mags, heavies have some of the best offensive and defensive utility, they have the highest health pool. Combine with a heal beam medium running movement utility and boom light irrelevant

crystal umbra
#

The current rank swap sentiment is:
"Overwhelmingly Negative"

plush fjord
# light tinsel these are horrible, light is the least viable class rightnow and you want to ner...

im srry have u ever played as a heavy? light fans are gettin extremely more annoying, noffense. but heavy weapons have incredibly poor accuracy and range, meaning they cant fire anywhere 1v1 to snipers 50m away. i get it. lights are pretty underrated. im not sayin the guy who u replied to isnt acting a bit peculiar. they shouldnt start nerfing lights, but atl get mediums new specializations. altho the works with heavies are pretty good, not gonna lie

foggy ginkgo
safe mauve
nocturne fern
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In overtime there should only be allowed 1 cashout going. When a team is going really well and coming first all game just for there to be 2 cashouts that are both going to pass you in money by the end, it doesnt feel good for the team that really deserves to win and go into the next round. I think having 1 cashout in overtime also makes it more rewarding for a lower team, getting that last cashout makes it more competitive because 3 teams (possibly 4) will all be going for that one to either remain or gain second place. This small change in ranked mode can make it feel more competitive and responsive to who is actually deserving to win the round.

mild gull
swift fable
#

Please leave ranked cashout alone, make a PTR for a new cashout game mode if you must. This is the only game ive been playing since beta and cannot stand SnD in this game, in R6, COD, or CS

tribal rampart
#

Why don't they just keep the current ranked mode and just add a secondary ranked mode with TA?

tropic tendon
#

--Requiring the Attacking team to interact with the terminal to deliver it, rather than just throwing the key in from a distance

if this is going to be implemented into terminal attack then instead of holding a physical key there should be a type of key card for one the attackers to pick up i.e that player would still be able to use a weapon. Just a suggestion. I have this opinion due to the fact many people dont like running with the key already as it is. Nurfing the throw at a distance capabilities makes it just that much worse. LMK WHAT YALL THINK

last moth
#

Idea - allow healing & defib in terminal attack. Just limit it to 1 defib per game and X amount of healing before beam runs out

stark remnant
#

Release a game with a main mode
Remove that mode once people are used to it and climbed ranks for almost a year
GG

misty jay
#

That's a good question and I don't have a complete answer at the moment. I'm going to give the game a chance because its my favorite FPS by far at the moment. I know a couple people that switched to xDefiant (yuck). Some people will go back to Valorant, COD, or Apex. Some of my friends still play Fortnite. It's too early to tell how S3 will affect the hardcore ranked players.

I will probably main quick cash until we have a good cashout tournament but I'll definitely be playing less because those games go so quick. I don't like requeueing every 10 mins. I would enjoy a longer game mode. And terminal attack is fun for a game or two but the sheer chaos of a 4 team battle for a final cashout is unmatched by any other gamemode.

rancid bone
agile cloak
#

the ranking system is so dog shit. I just ranked down because I had two teammates sit in spawn messing around the whole game. I ended 8-3 when I was playing the whole game by myself and yet still got ranked down because I couldnā€™t qualify

young phoenix
#

All I'm saying is if you think cashout is to much rng which is fair, just make ranked or competitive 3v3 instead of 4 teams. Because imo the best and most fun version of terminal attack would just turn into 3v3 cashout anyway

quick coyote
#

shut up skibidi star

rough herald
#

still waiting for the heavy nerf

sage sapphire
wispy locust
#

in a world where everyone plays football embark made basketball. People who didnt like football loved basketball but embark saw that football was more popular so they tried to force their players in to playing football. But they were trying to play football with a basketball in a basketball court. After all the football fans relized that this is not competative they stoped playing the finals and went to play real football instead. Basketball fans had already left the game and with zero players there wont be any season 4

jagged cedar
#

RANKED SHOULDNT BE TERMINAL ATTACK

however,
It is common knowledge that the tournament format for ranked isnt the best, it's full of third partying and games where you're left feeling like you should've won, having 10 kills per player but that team that showed up last to the final cashout going 1-5 across the board got through instead. Instead of cashout or terminal attack being the ranked format, it should be a more polished version of the tournament final round (two teams 3v3) but potentially incorporate aspects of terminal attack (i.e. an attacking/defending team is clarified right away). Im no game dev ofc but to me and other's I speak with a streamlined/polished 3v3 format is what they consider the best for ranked.

quick coyote
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Terminal ranked is big popoo, no skibidi and L rizz, level 0 gyatt not so sigma and very cringe. Embark please reconsider or else ill steal your grimace shake and end your mewing streak so you cant looks max to rizz up a baddy from ohio why level 10 gyatt.

carmine talon
vast plinth
worn light
#

Ranked should not be terminal attack

knotty kernel
#

I will never play this game ever again if you guys dont rid of terminal attack for ranked

unique slate
upper citrus
#

Literally just have both modes available for ranked. People will still play world tour for multibucks and whatever rewards it gives. No idea why anyone thought removing the main gamemode was a good idea

next mortar
steep sigil
tulip juniper
#

NO ONE WANTS TERMINAL ATTACK

floral plover
#

New skin idea for the double sword weapon!! A double ice pop you break them and you have 2 swords!! #1249013962167816233

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west trellis
#

Jumping on the I-don't-want-TA-to-replace-ranked-cashout train. Does anyone?? Is that what's actually happening?

glacial knot
frosty oak
pine flower
worn sigil
#

Guys.. They said the reason why ranked is terminal attack is because they want to make changes to cashout which they couldn't do if it was still in ranked rotation!
And it will be back and more competitive probably S4..

That being said, unless the diamond camo reward is good aka for a weapon I like, then this season aside from skins is a write-off for me.

@spiral path agreed. I know they're not similar games but Fortnite and Apex fixed most of their issues within the first 2 seasons. And they had 15+ years of what not to do with cod to learn from.

@misty jasper cashouts will be weekend tourneys now I believe but that's a long wait every week if we don't play Terminal Attack.

@worldly scaffold agreed. Was a rather rushed response to all the backlash received. 3 months of S3 till S4 is a long wait to find out if it was all BS tho.

@buoyant thistle ranked in S2 is all about a win streak unfortunately, how many times in a row you can, at the very least, qualify from R1..

@inland cove I never really cared much for the goo gun, but I use the goo Grenade quite a lot. No idea how to balance the goo gun

misty jasper
#

Given the new info in the announcement, iā€™m now more willing to just wait and see how this season goes instead of being upset about TA ranked. It sounds like they still have some cool stuff for cash out so Iā€™m gonna wait until the season comes out before I judge it

spiral path
red knot
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wow... what a fair match making...
would be great if it would be... i don't know... ACTUALLY FAIR?!
i don't want matches with completely uncoordinated teammates and NEITHER do i want a match that's unnecessarily easy
i have 10 matches loosing in the dumbest ways possible and then a match were it feels like i'm not needed.
i just want the closed beta vibes back

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worldly scaffold
buoyant thistle
#

carried my teammates and lost in ranked and moved down 5 whole spots bruh

inland cove
#

pls change goo gun the current state of this thing is just a self troll

when i shoot a player with it to stick them, they can just run out the back and the goo stays stuck in the air for some time blocking me from dealing any damage or hunting them down
this makes basically all combat applications of this useless especially against lights and the only thing left to do is build a bunker (witch is terribly boring)

i understand that the old goo/player interaction was not good since it was possible to permanently trap someone

my suggestion would be to:

  • at least have the goo not stay floating in the air
  • but best make the goo apply a slow effect and not create a rigid foam if it hits a player. the slow could be indicated by a status effect "gooed" (like burning/EMPed) to have a visual indicator that the slow is applied.

this would mean that:

  • It is no longer possible to permanently trap a player
  • it is no longer possible to goo yourself up to block incoming damage
  • it is no longer possible to interrupt a cashout steal by blocking line of sight to the cashout by gooing up the stealing player
  • it is now possible for teammates to more easily damage gooed up enemy players

my suggestion for the "gooed" effect itself:

  • duration 2 seconds (possibly less) ( this need to be enough to swap from googun to another weapon (eg. sledgehammer/flamethrower/shotgun) and do some damage before the effect wears out
  • slow amount similar to stun gun

please share your thoughts on this šŸ˜

stark remnant
raw eagle
#

Add more than one map

sonic raft
#

Different intro vs outro emotes

safe mauve
rough herald
#

4 days till the heavy nerf

@safe mauve the point is it limit creativity

crystal umbra
#

I don't want to have to grind my diamonds on a one life game mode. I would gladly put down ranked play and only play tournament in cash out if I have the ability to get my diamond or Ruby or emerald skins elsewhere.

I understand that there is a bigger picture you guys are trying to paint and we can't see it because we can only see what's closer on the horizon.

pseudo surge
hushed aspen
#

The fact they have the Audactity to put "CAANN. YOU. REACH. THE. FINALS" at the end of the trailer is actually gross to me... ^ I am not correcting this lmao. It's as funny as I am pissed off with this dumb change

sick stag
#

WE ARE SO BACK

1.I had said that if embark dev communicated more, we will understand more and will be less mad.

Do we still want Tournament as Ranked? Yes. But when you tell us you are taking it off ranked to do some fine tuning. It all make sense. Communication and transparency has always been the keys.

  1. Ruby for Ranked TA and Emerald for Ranked tournament

I called it. Top TA and Tournament players are not sharing the same skills, it only make sense that we should separate them.

Just like you don't want the award of Table tennis and tennis to look the same (maybe a bad analogy lmao)

Good Job Embark.

1.1 I know that the other reason is also because public like 5v5, so more new player, but of course for PR reason you did not include that. You do you gang. We omit intent sometimes šŸ™

dull elm
#

No idea if this is a good idea but:
Make the current ranked rewards stuff from the ob/cb so people font miss out on new weapon skins, and people already excepted that they won't ever get these skins

Make a small difference like text or something

This makes it so people don't really feel like missing out on the ranked rewards, but you'd still get something cool if you play it (especially bc it's mostly new players who will try this ranked game mode, and the older players stick with cash out)

Oh and I would love to see one map (2 week update) in world tour where the classes are locked. This is a perfect time to see if it'll work or not.

gusty wagon
magic stratus
#

Audactities

cold bolt
#

idk why ppl are justifying cash out being on the bench for s3, the mode doesn't need to be on the bench at all for them to "fine tune" it, just a poor excuse, they had all of s2 to work on it

unreal quail
#

u guys need to stop being mean

novel lily
#

Nerf or remove the sniper, this shit is so ass with the 0 skill requirement you can just camp across the map and since THE ONLY LONG RANGE WEAPON is the sniper all you can do is either postpone whatever your doing just to walk all he way there to kill them, which only stops them from camping for 20 ish seconds, or you can switch to sniper and be a camper too, theres really no winning. Add that to the list that playing with snipers now is like playing with sawed off players in CB and S1, they only care about kills and usually you end up losing

smoky ibex
upper citrus
#

Ranked tournament really doesnā€™t need to be removed. You can always have two ranked modes

next mortar
golden rock
# hushed aspen The fact they have the ***Audactity*** to put "CAANN. YOU. REACH. THE. FINALS" a...

say the main mode is still gonna be tournament cashout
announce that there is gonna be an actual cashout tournament
create a new gamemode specifically for cashout to be more entertaining
make termianl attack rankeds
"omg guys how can they have the audacity to still promote themselves with can you reach the finals?"

What this basically means is that: no, Ranked is not the main mode of the game it is "just" there to please the people that want ranked.

Is this change good? I think so, it will make the finals fill an empty niche in shooter games, but I also don't care about rank in ranked I just played it because I liked the tournament format and since it is just gonna be in a different mode I will play that.

It is just that everyone is so selfish or shortsighted that they seem to misinterpret what the devs are trying to do. And hey I might not understand it either, but it for sure is somewhere in that ballpark since that is what the changes they are making seem to say

dusk cipher
#

We need a 3v3 gamemode

tranquil galleon
#

thank you embark

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still yoke
#

Cashout rework where it chashes out in pieces like lets say 1 safe is 20k and while you wait it gives you 5k per wait

inland cove
# safe mauve The goo gun is not meant to be a weapon to attack. It's best uses are defending ...

as i said in the original post is it incredibly boring to build a bunker. And also yes i think the goo gun can and should be used for offensive play.
It enables many weapons to really shine (e.g. Sledgehammer, Flamethrower, Shotgun).
I think a change like i suggested would get rid of may aspects that make the goo gun not fun to play and play against while not crippling it.

And while the goo gun can be useful for climbing up buildings i think the heavy class should have access to the zipline gadget to provide a gadget that can be used for movement.

(to make full use of Slow mode this in all in one comment)
Change suggestion for the zipline gadget

  • maximum incline set to 65Ā° (zipline can not be placed at an incline steeper that 65Ā°)
  • (maybe) now has two charges
dull moth
#

I love you embark

winter wing
#

This ranked change is essentially just rug pulling your entire core community. Way to go embark

spiral hemlock
patent fiber
#

I'm gonna take scoot out of the territory of the ranked debate, since i want to talk about something that will benefit a lot of people. An enormous amount of people. By this, I mean that there needs to be a another resolution scaling method, called "Basic". I've been talking about the use of TAA (Temporal Anti-Aliasing) in a ton of other games for some time now, and have found ways to disable TAA in almost every game I play (that has it forced on). THE FINALS is indeed a game that has forced AA methods. Those being FSR, DLSS, XESS and TAAU. All of these come with their own downsides, however they all have one BIG problem, that being VISIBILITY. Anything past 20 meters you can, at best, barely see. The game can be obscenely blurry (and flickery, depending on your graphics preset and the situation you're in "in-game"). Foliage looks terrible and most transparent materials looks like frosted glass (the windows in Seoul are a decent example of this). With the removal of TAA (or rather adding an extra resolution scaling option that renders the game without post-processed anti-aliasing), these issues wouldn't exists. The options to fix this are as follows.

  • Add FXAA (Fast-Approximate Anti-Aliasing) to the game. Less than ideal, but it wouldn't be bad either. Eats less overall resources and, if not forced too hard, it would look pretty ok.
  • Reduce the strength of the TAA (or rather, add built in sharpening to counter-act the blurriness of TAA). This might seem counter-productive, however it has shown time and time again that it works pretty damn well if done correctly.
  • Add an option that removes AA entirely. By far the most effective, and I guarantee would be used by the most people.

For reference to those who are unaware, AA in this context means Anti-Aliasing, not Aim Assist. I ain't here to make an Aim Assist debate, I'm here to talk about how to make the game better visually. This game is beautiful, but I know it can be even better. Thanks for readin'.

alpine flame
#

really sad that SA ranked servers are SO EMPTY
this game needs more optimizations cuz ppl in SA have lower end pcs and feel discouraged to play this, so they all stick to valorant and CS

blissful bridge
sonic raft
#

There need to be punishments for leaving even casual games so often. I'm tired of joining in progress matches all the time. And then having teammates leave after we are losing for 10 seconds

hushed aspen
carmine thistle
manic sandal
mild gull
forest veldt
#

I dont see enough people talking about it, but HELL YES to ranked terminal attack. stoked for that. If you feel the same way, let em know!

golden rock
#

They could fix the problem with joining games that are ongoing and punishing leavers with the same thing. Add an option for people who don't want to join games in progress to disable that possibility and make players that leave always have that option enabled until they complete a game.

With a big enough player base there should still be enough people joining games in progress even if the leavers don't queue up immediately after leaving, especially if the option is on by default since a lot of players don't even know there are some things that can be changed in options a lot of the time.

half sapphire
#

Yo is ranked bugged or something? I got three bar, a win and still no rank up. Canā€™t get past plat 2ā€¦

hardy siren
#

How are you possibly gonna give me my Xbox voice chat back after actually 7 months of no talking. And boom next update no more ranked tournaments. Understand that the tournament is your MVP. You have built your company even the name around the tournament. Iā€™m not sure what your thinking but do not be a sheep and follow call of duty down this search and destroy ranked pathway itā€™s atrocious. If youā€™d like to, make two different ranked playlist with different rewards. In call of duty or fortnite terms your taking CWL players and making them play Warzone, or another example is taking save the world players and making them play battle royale. Your game is the finals, the finals of what? Of a tournament. Stop being silly, your whole game is built around the tournament. Maybe focus on reworking tournaments of the regular gamemode rather than making it terminal attack where you literally canā€™t even use all the gadgets and tech that your offered. What a joke. From a veteran two season diamond player this is just disgusting.

hollow valve
#

The matchmaking system is very suspicious now. I call out the devs to make a detailed explanation on how matchmaking works. What matchmaking are you using in each mode and to what degree the sbmm is. And don't gaslight like the cod post on matchmaking.

tawny karma
#

Please add a way to see if skins have special animations attached to it without buying it and add more cool skins rather than basic desert camp

upper citrus
teal bear
#

Wow okay so I just read the post in the game announcement section and my faith is fully restored. Did no one read that?

lapis stump
#

where is game announcent section?

wooden storm
#

So what's going on with crossplay in S3, are you guys making it so it's Console only when its off and then everyone when it's on? Rn it's just your specific console if it's off and not both consoles

worn arch
crystal umbra
#

What do we think about the light class getting a faster health Regen so they can be a little more helpful during the course of a match

unique slate
azure flicker
rose garden
hollow breach
#

I think it's so funny people are complaining about cashout ranked being ''gone'' when you guys asked them to improve on it and rework it. This cannot be done while it's still a ranked mode guys......... šŸ˜­

next mortar
spring rover
#

@azure flicker I disagree. Yes we should trust Embark that they only want the best for the game. But if the community has a wish, I think this is a good way to show how important it is to the community.
Edit: in response to @stray basalt I think a petition is a good way because it is less toxic then spamming negative comments because embark can see in numbers how many really dislike the ranked changes and not just the ones who shout the loudest get heard

gritty umbra
quick coyote
stray basalt
# spring rover <@747640174854275192> I disagree. Yes we should trust Embark that they only want...

Meanwhile the community made death threats and review bombing the game. The community is not infallible and frankly should not be spoiled to the point where the moment something happens that they donā€™t agree with they get leeway to do whatever. At least when the helldivers community review bombed they were legitimate reasons for it.
Edit: in response to &
@spring rover I think that definitely makes the most sense moving forward with player feedback. Itā€™s good way to just filter comments into actual data to make it easier so Embark knows how the community actually feels. Versus just seeing spam

crisp garnet
#

#cashoutranked both modes with 2 ranks will be fine for me, but removing cashout? Why?

jagged cedar
junior orbit
#

@rare spear can you already fix loadout showcase after first round? Didnt want pinging but this shit 2 seasons

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worldly scaffold
quick coyote
#

Big take, any Cash Out, gotta have something done with people leaving the Match, especially people leaving AFK while Players are still moving during Cash Out or Terminal Attack. Itā€™s getting really hard to play like that being Solo vs 5

wind mist
#

Huge L taking tournaments away from Ranked. Terminal is fun but far from as fun. RIP

woeful arch
#

Please devs, clarify in the UI how many days are left to complete a Career Circuit, it was an information missing this season. All along I assumed that I'd be able to complete the goals even beyond the end of this season. Was certainly not expecting season 3 to end the ability to complete current career circuit goals. "Career Circuit" sounds like evergreen content, not something tied to the season.

abstract fog
#

Nerf swords

sinful finch
#

Straight up cashout should be a ranked mode and terminal attack could be one as well, but Iā€™ve already played S&D on countless other games.

manic steppe
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Tournament Ranked is what keeps me playing this game. Not excited at all to play Terminal Attack. They need to have both modes in ranked. I don't care if the que is longer because it's splitting the player base I already que with crossplay off to have better matches.

drowsy vector
#

Todayā€™s announcement was describing what you already did with cash out, but in damage control language. Sorry, but hope itā€™s still ranked as usual or Iā€™m gone to the next game. Ranked is all I did in the time since release, and without it thereā€™s nothing else to play for imo

upper citrus
#

Keep both modes in ranked

vast root
#

isnt the world tour mode gonna be a ranked-style mode???? i havent been keeping up with the season 3 announcements whys everyone so mad

runic harness
#

Man yall need to start reading game announcements lol its basically just a different ranked mode now just rebranded

terse ember
tame quest
teal bear
unique nimbus
#

Devs really need to sort out the aids matchmaking. I should not have to always play a tournament game against diamonds as a plat

sudden dagger
fleet torrent
spring rover
# vast root isnt the world tour mode gonna be a ranked-style mode???? i havent been keeping ...

I would be on board if world tournament would also unlock diamond and ruby skins. If they then would Ranked to just TA I had really no problems with the changes. I just think TA shouldnā€™t be the face of the finals ranked, I see the problems CT has in a competitive way with matchmaking and all but TA just feels to dull to be the official ranked mode. But thatā€™s my opinion and others I read are also valid.
Donā€™t want to come across as a hater Iā€™m totally hyped for S3 but I think I have the right to tell my opinion as long as I donā€™t insult someone and stay respectful

sharp herald
#

excited to try season 3 - I was going to write something longer, but it got a bit too long.

upper cliff
vivid wharf
warm mauve
#

Too long. Not reading all that. Congradulations. Or Iā€™m sorry to hear that.

tepid magnet
#

Anyone know how to get that structural damage with arena carriables Iā€™ve been throwing the red propane tanks and itā€™s not counting towards the challenge

tight garden
#

@tepid magnet sledgehammer heavy

marsh turret
#

Question for the devs. Now That our pink set for the community event is maxed out and we'll be moving into new iteams / sets can we get the whole set in the outfit section? Where it shows all the battlepass skins? It just makes it easier to see what I have and if i want to equip everything at once.

Thank you šŸ™

#game-announcements message

golden surge
tawny karma
#

buff the aps exp rate. its extremely slow its crazy cause it gets destroyed after 3 hits

worldly scaffold
short oracle
gilded bloom
#

buff c4 to 2 charges, reduce rpg damage to 80 max but buff its environmental damage by a factor of like 5, and give medium a speedpad

jagged cedar
#

Keep both modes in ranked

sinful fog
#

Add an additional option for Auto-sprint to "Only Slide while holding Run button", accidental slides may be very disorienting with auto-spint enabled.

rose nacelle
#

Terminal Attack is simply not representative of what most people play this game for. It was fun for the Limited Time Mode gimmick, but turning it into a mainstay is the wrong call.

oak wyvern
#

I LOVE TERMINAL ATTACK I CANT WAIT TO PLAY TERMINAL ATTACK RANKED FOR 90 DAYS

azure orchid
#

Normal Tourney Ranked WILL be back. The are just taking it off for fine tuning.

obsidian pond
#

Am I the only one who thinks that terminal attack is very bad because there is no self-heal? You can rarely kill more than 2 people in a round because after fighting them you will have low hp, I donā€™t care that this is a team game and you need to win due to teamwork, very often weak players are thrown into the team and in this case you have no chance to win, but with self heal you could often kill 3-5 enemies per round, which would make the dependence on teammates skill much less. in games like siege or valorant, self heal is not necessary cuz you can one tap enemies, but removing self heal in the finals is the stupidest decision imostopegg

strange niche
#

game is great. discord is toxic

last tusk
lusty portal
#

Looks like im not playing ranked at all in season 3. KEEP CASHOUT AS RANKED

crystal umbra
vivid wharf
#

Embark is about to show us there is more to life than Ranked

They are going to expand on gaming structure, break us free from our Matrix

They are giving us a non toxic place to play video games in, everyone who is mad RN is not welcome

One more time for those that missed it

Ranked is where toxic people live. Everyone else step on through to Season 3

orf_crazy orf_crazy orf_crazy

#season3redpill free yourselves from the Ranked Matrix enter THE WORLD TOUR and leave your toxicity behind

TA/ranked is just a side hustle, World Tour is THE FINALS. Welcome to a new age of gaming. Just breathe. No one is making you play TA

#season3redpill a new world awaits you

Is ranked in there just for people who need to see the word ranked in the menu? Yes.

sharp briar
#

Stop complaining. Cry about it instead. Let the devs cook. Play the update. Then come here and yap. Gday

pure ore
lilac coral
#

For two days now everyone cry cry cry and they havenā€™t even played it yet lolz @pure ore how can you give feed back if you havenā€™t try it hahahaha

clever haven
#

To the people who say that Embark said that Cashout rank is being worked on, and they will bring it back when they improve on the game mode.

Embark is lieing about working on Cashout rank. It's just a ploy to help ease on the backlash over Cashout rank being gone.

If TA rank succeeds in bringing more players, then Cashout rank won't be back. If it doesn't, cashout rank will come back.

See through the lies of Embark, and realize that Embark is playing mind games and lieing to you for the good of their business.

tropic vortex
#

Hi everyone!, I have been thinking about what can be added to the game to make it more interactive and after watching the video of "S2 Highlights Episode 1" this occurred to me:
(English is not my strong point so I help myself with the translator, sorry if there are any errors)

  1. Add a "Community" section within the game menu where people can interact with the same community and with the developers in different ways

Some examples of uses for this section that come to mind would be

** community skin voting system, where you publish the best skin concepts that the community gives and we vote and at the end of x time the winning concept would be brought to the game (this is probably within the Discord but it seems better to me option to implement it within the same game making it more interactive)

** something similar to the above but with clips of community plays, where people can upload their best moments, give them likes, etc., like a kind of social network, and make a table of the most voted clips where the The best ones are rewarded with some prize and at the end of the season a compilation of the best ones is made with the narrators commenting on each clip as in the video for "S2 Highlights Episode 1"
Something that complements this system very well would be a theater mode, where you can see your complete repeated games and save your clips yourself and upload them, as it is a game where its concept is that it is a "Show", a "spectacle", I think that would fit very well and would add a lot of dynamism and interaction between the community, the developers and the game itself, giving it more life

What do you think? Do you plan to add something like this in the future?

Thanks for reading and sorry for the long text.

I see you in THE FINALS

@pearl kiln

zealous cove
#

2 games in a row on Terminal Attack and opposite team is killing themselves and last guy remains afk but slightly moving enough to not get kicked for being afk

mint lintel
# pure ore "stop voicing your opinion in the text channel created for the sole purpose of c...

not even out stop yapping and read game announcements

"The gameplay and ranked system improvements should make this mode as fair and enjoyable as we've planned it to be from the start. We've made many changes to the mode to make it more viable for competitive play."

"In Season 3, World Tour will feature Cashout tournaments with 24 players as the primary mode. Youā€™ll be able to rank up your badge, earn prizes, check the leaderboards, and play the mode you know and love. These events will always be on and available to play throughout the season.."

quartz shell
native berry
#

Here a suggestion to divert attention and anxiety away from an unreleased update lol

If you're doing collabs with other franchises, add the option of having guest announcers that arent ai, but with paid voice actors and stuff

Most gamers and popular streamers (who happen to be voice actors) would really avoid this game because they know that using AI even with budget cut excuses is the scummiest thing to do. I get that you're a small team and nexon probably isnt doing much to help in dev other than servers but yeah

Having guest announcers (e.g. wiz and boomstick from death battle) as another paid option (in store) but having like maybe 50% of the revenue go to support voice actors might actually put in a good word with gamers who are really conscious on avoiding ai because it ruins originality regardless of reason, and this is justifiably established in the majority of gamers who'd rather pay money or dedicate their time to support actual talent and/or hard work done by human hands and stuff. So summary, yeah, i understand the ai voice usage in the game lorewise, but majority of gamers still view AI in general as downgrading for the gaming industry, and actual VA is good

stark remnant
light tinsel
#

I dont think the chain will be a problem if they give it a good cooldown and make it hard to hit, that will make it skill based. Also because it is a specialization and not a gadget you will have to choose it over something like charge and slam or shield, meaning it wont be a part the heavy meta as heavy is used as the tank defense class.\

civic wing
#

People donā€™t even have full trio teammates like that yet alone team of 5

spark shard
#

No updates on the matchmaking for season 3? Fantastic joke.

river plover
queen cloud
glass snow
#

yeah I hope the grappling hook will not be meta @tiny marten

gleaming gust
#

Embark stated they couldn't change cashout if it was stuck in a ranked mode but the world tours are weekly so why not have the weekly wacky cashout with loadout restrictions like they are doing but have the normal cashout for ranked, do they think we will get bored of cashout? With the dynamic gameplay every game is different, I have hundreds of hours in cashout...

short oracle
#

TA improvements I hope I see in S3:
Sounds and/or text regarding

  • Team wipe
  • 1 Enemy remaining
  • Last one alive
  • Terminal can't be hacked anymore (sub7 senconds, either a specific bip frequency, or a song, whatever)
  • #1235734672433086474 hope this is fixed
valid prism
#

The complaints wore me down. Give ranked cash out back in addition to terminal attack so they can find something else to complain about.

eager shard
#

game is worse than 2 months ago, final round loading keep glitching leaving me on the loading page. re logging doesnt allow me to join. 4 times today

drowsy rapids
#

Y'all should make the characters say howdy sometimes if they're wearing a cowboy hat and say hello. (šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ˜” RANKED CHANGES. jk)

sage sapphire
# valid prism The complaints wore me down. Give ranked cash out back in addition to terminal a...

My brother in Christ this is the only thing Iā€™ve complained about. I adapted to every nerf happily. They nerfed heavy I was excited to play light. they nerfed stun gun i was excited to bring frags instead. The servers went down that one day abt a month ago and I hopped in the discord and made jokes with the community and my 3 stack to still enjoy the finalā€™s experience while the game was down.

Cashout ranked as embarrassing as it is to admit was definitely the biggest part of my life since September. Getting rid of it will require me and a large part of the community to watch a part of our selves and our lives disappear.

Yes Iā€™m going to complain about this, no I wonā€™t be logging on here to complain about anything else regardless of if itā€™s fixed or not. This is the only issue in the finals that has been game breaking for me and there is a large and extremely dedicated portion of the community that feels the same way

candid flower
#

What a dumb idea

gritty umbra
#

bro world tour/cashout is still gonna be the face of the game, they literally said they did the change to fix ranked. not only that the first official tourney is literally going to be cashout mode. im not tryna be a shill but holy arm chair devs really came out 4 this 1

runic bobcat
#

guys, is this right place to make a suggestion to the devs?

tawny karma
patent night
vivid wharf
green vigil
#

I want to see an admin play against 4 lights with throwing knifes and tell me they're not op. They're ridiculous and players know this and abuse it. Buffing them was the worst thing they could have done to this game. People are rage quitting left and right because of them.

fringe gazelle
civic wing
#

Changes that should of been out from the start: * Heavy- make them even slower, make their dome shield a non shoot through shield and buff its health, make their activation shield abilities with a longer animation. *Lights- make their health regen faster, make their time of being seen longer via enemy pings, enemy reveal grenades ext , buff the shot gun again, either nerfe the throwing knifes damage or make it harder to hit yes they are trolling but its still annoying getting one tapped by them( im a light main)*medium- weapons are fine stop tunning them, make it where if there is more than one medium on a team only one of them can have the instant revive gadget (start adding gadgets and abilities unavailable depending on the repeats of the same character on a team) resons: triple heavy is too powerful as well as triple mediums - Matchmaking - remove the rank matchmaking based on the highest ranking in a lobby playing with lower ranked friends is a nightmare are for them others can agree ( no body likes a matchmaking like COD letā€™s be honest)

gentle snow
sly knot
#

You canā€™t complain about the new ranked mode when you havenā€™t even played it idk why everyone is so upset over this. Ranked TA will help the game out way more then cash out did and thatā€™s just a fact

proud minnow
#

Can i suggest a map filter for quick play? like 90% of the time I don't want to play S$S Horizon and it would be awesome to filter out certain maps in quick play. Obviously not in ranked modes.

uneven mountain
#

just realised this is kinda similar to terminal attack before it came out

stark remnant
rose nacelle
#

Simply yell to your team "I'M GRABBED" and hope they do the rest.
This is a team game, have trust in your teammates.

glad delta
#

I think it was the Helldivers 2 devs that said "the players are not lying about their pain, but it doesn't make them correct about the diagnosis" just let them figure it out

clear hemlock
#

Haven't even felt the hook in game. Don't complain before testing it

elfin badge
lavish shard
#

Change health regen
Heavy stay 10 sec
Med 7 sec
Light 5 sec

unique nimbus
placid vortex
#

Allow us to wear these masks on our face

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green vigil
#

Ok boo. Statement still stands and I'm not the only one seeing it

violet elbow
#

revert the terminal attack ranked decision, id rather trial and error with changes in ranked on the cashout tourney system over playing a gamemode that straight up is not THE FINALS

loud night
#

Please let me get the ospuze catch a can and drink emote I'm so thirsty please I'm dying

lethal rover
#

I think it would be cool if we could favorite skins or make kits so we could have skins rotate every match! I hate having to pick between skins so itā€™d be cool to hit the ones I like and have them cycle randomly

frigid marlin
#

how are the stupid throwing knives still not nerfed

slate grove
#

React if u want facial hair or more faces for free in the game

loud patrol
#

man, the aps really shouldn't have been nerfed

eager raven
worldly scaffold
#

Hood up/hood down option for torso pieces.

spark shard
uneven mountain
#

pls bring back old soundtrack

placid vortex
gritty python
quartz shell
tranquil pewter
#

terminal attack does not belong in ranked. I started playing the finals BECAUSE it was not another attempt at being cs:go/valorant/rainbow 6. I like the mode as a side thing, as it should be. Turning ranked into just another s&d clone will just turn the game into something no one plays it for. We all play for the fast paced gunfights and creative plays you can make through the games amazing destruction physics. If this doesn't sound like a big issue for casuals, every item, weapon, carryable, gadget, specialization and even map will be balanced in the perspective of a 5v5 no revives no healing mode. the entire combat medic playstyle is alienated in this mode already, as half of the kit that makes med healers what they are inexistent. This is a seriously bad decision, and could be what can make the game fail. We want THE FINALS, not Search and Destroy.

unique nimbus
honest island
#

hello latin america SA server is terrible and there are fewer and fewer players on this server due to sharing 2 languages ā€‹ā€‹ranked queues seem to have always been disabled can't find matches players have in the 2023 open test in October there was an official announcement about opening a Brazilian server in SĆ£o Paulo Brazil The game with a Latin American server with 2 languages ā€‹ā€‹is increasingly empty and since the launch of the game it was not possible to find a ranked match I believe there must be an unknown error Brazilian audience for the game is very busy in Facebook groups and disagree but Latin America server is only for playing normal games the ranked queue doesn't work when we want to play ranked we go to North America solve this error about the ranked queue on the Latin America SA server or open the Brazilian SĆ£o Paulo server because SA has 2 different languages, which is terrible

foggy field
#

terminal attack as the ranked game mode is a fucking terrible change

night surge
runic bobcat
#

I'd like to suggest an option to turn off the glitchiness of the clothes and stuff. there are some great costumes that don't quite go with the glitch effect, specially if you combine with non-glitchy clothes and addresses. I'm one of those dweebs that care a lot about customization, and I think most players care about it to some extent top (as much as being willing to spend money on costumes), and I think is quite frustrating to see a good piece of clothing being wasted because the glitch effect is annoying. I know that was the theme of the season, but since we're moving on, the option to turn off the glitchiness would increase customization options without having to do more creative work. I know this is not the 'feedback on gameplay balance etc' that most people care about, but it would be nice to see Embark caring about details that might please some more casual players (or casual parts of regular players) idk I feel stupid suggesting this but here I am

worldly scaffold
#

Also the glitches make you light up in smoke like christmas tree, it is doing exact opposite what smoke is supposed to do, so yes to turning off the glitch effect. Or at least fix it/turn off in smoke.

novel crow
#

NO TA RANKED

worn sigil
unreal pawn
#

@true epoch random but 22% of players have the "create a contestant" trophy. If people are struggling to find the create option thats probably causing part of a retention issue

broken plume
# frigid marlin how are the stupid throwing knives still not nerfed

whats so bad about them? They have horrible accuracy and are extremely loud so you can't easily get the drop on a team. Ontop of that they aren't hit scan so you have to lead your shots which is already hard enough with the random pattern. Also they get MORE inaccurate the more you move so the one thing keeping a light from dying is what messes up their throws and even with all that light is arguably one of the least useful classes

young hamlet
#

We don't TA as ranked!
Also bring back S1 soundtrack

raw swan
#

We should be able to convert all our accumulated 3k VRs for a number of multibucks prolly like 10 or sumtn

frigid marlin
abstract pewter
spark shard
lethal yarrow
#

Ranked shouldn't have it's own mode. Leaderboards can be done for everything. game mode, weapon, class, specialization, anything that can be scored with can be tracked on a leaderboard. The tournament format with teams getting knocked out tell the TheFinal match can change game modes within the season if ranking was for everything. The Leaderboard rankings can also be separated into different pools of players to increase the number of possible players reaching the top. Player Active Time Zones, Regions, Tournament participation, LAN tournaments, Lobby tournaments, etc. I do recommend a single cash box to fight over like Quick Cash replacing Cash Out and possible merging them into one game mode. Two cash boxes to fight over at one time gives too many freely uncontested wins. Keep the cash earnings from team wipes. Another thing to keep from Cash Out is the additional box spawns that can extend the game play time and random events. After a cash box is inserted into a cash out it allows another to be generated. Easter eggs could be used to trigger the generation of a cash box early with a random event. This being done instead of waiting for the cash out to complete to get the other box to spawn enables the players a way to catch up on cash earnings, establish a possible win, or fail by adding more for another team. Having a way to generate more cash boxes with a Easter egg hunt will also keep the generation of the boxes under control. This will also work with the Sofia boss event idea of having her money be stolen by the players and she comes with godlike admin powers to try to stop them. CNS triggers her admin powers to stop when the cash box is inserted into the cash out to allow her to be killed.

slate grove
#

Facial hair?

upper citrus
#

Have both modes ranked

mortal steppe
#

Fix the loading screens please šŸ™ . I have a 3060 and my friend has a 4060 and we still get stuck on loading screens. I was stuck on a loading screen while my friend was in game so I restarted my game but it wouldnt let me reconnect despite it being the same round. Sometimes I dont even load in fast enough to change to my reserve. I can run the game perfectly fine at all settings at medium too so i dont know whats going on.

north magnet
#

HUD SAFEZONES

sick pier
tiny fiber
#

Cashout is so unique and ranked cashout was the main thing that keeps me playing the finals. It was what made the game so special. Hope the devs revert their decision as this will cause myself and a lot of others to stop playing. If we wanted to play yet another round based bomb/defuse game we wouldn't be playing the finals.

shut hamlet
#

Add crack cocaine to the game

heady pilot
#

I think it's fine that TA is ranked for this season, it has more benefits than negatives imo, and we're getting more out of cashout from world tour, it seems kinda dumb to have world tour be cashout and Ranked also be cashout, it kinda loses its incentive, I think most of the players are unfair to TA most reasons I've seen for people disliking it is because no heals/defib which is a whole topic on its own, neither are fun to deal with they're only fun when you're doing it, everyone who's overreacting like this is a permanent change that'll never be revised or fixed need to calm down it's a video game that released not too long ago we should be happy that they're making changes in order to benefit the things you like, this is HEALTHY for the game

mystic bramble
#

We don't want terminal attack for ranked. It was a meh game mode to begin with. Id be happy if it stuck around for a casual mode though!

kind bear
barren coral
#

Add more career progression rewards it's great!

stark venture
crystal storm
#

Make the cashout give money in a couple of ticks instead of all of it at the end. Feels pretty unrewarding to hold off 2 teams for 90% of the duration and getting nothing out of it. Maybe a couple of instances like 2k > 5K > 10K.

daring fossil
#

can we up the amount of money a cashout gives in quick play because I have over 800 hours in the game and im only half way through the deep pockets achievement when people who play bank it only have completed it already.

humble wave
#

***embark, if u can see this, probably not, the nuke v2.0, aka. RPG gotta get a nerf, cause theres no way im dodging a rocket, or better yet make glitch explode on impact
thank you for the game ***

jade inlet
#

game pushing you under the floor is really something that should happen?

crystal umbra
#

Sucks that the shiny new "transparent" ranked system will be released with terminal attack and not giving Ranked Cashout a try.

Also, if you add more game modes you can have a random rotation of games & maps (like overwatch)

I only play current ranked. Dont like terminal attack.
The diamond weapons are going to be hidden behind the game mode I don't want to play.

If you make a way for us to get diamond weapons outside of ranked I think I'll be happy to give up ranked ngl.

If the finals gets more players with this change (lol?) then good.

dim tangle
#

why is the game in QP a throwing knives simulator it feels like im playing cod zombies

winter walrus
#

5v5 matches are terrible when there is only 3 people on one team. via 3v5 or 5v3. Game mode should be canceled and retry until there is a full team and if game mode is launched and a team starts with 3 people on their team match should be stopped until the team with missing players receive the correct amount. Defeats the purpose of having 5v5 modes when that outcome make the match unfair and not fun.

odd pond
marsh halo
#

So light is a pretty strong meta in Terminal, are there going to be any changes to the regen or revive system with it? Maybe all classes get the same % of health back versus all stuck at 100hp?

civic walrus
#

nice feedback

fervent coral
#

Make it to where heavys cant shoot thru their dome shield

steep shuttle
#

add ranked tournament level barrier so it is possible to rank up with competent teammates instead of people playing their first game ever (i dont know if there is a level barrier to play ranked but if there is, raise it)

crystal umbra
cinder slate
#

Please don't make terminal attack the primary ranked mode

thin summit
naive yarrow
burnt niche
#

I LOVE TERMINAL ATTACK I CANT WAIT TO PLAY TERMINAL ATTACK RANKED FOR 90 DAYS

humble wave
#

good points ngl

undone pasture
#

kinda not excited for terminal attack ranked, am i wrong to feel this way?

thorny parcel
#

Throwing Knifes is a bit much in casuals lol

molten trail
#

still the glitch in the game my gun wont shoot, gadgets wont throw šŸ¤”

warm root
#

Hi I'm new to the finals but I kinda got an Ideah for that sawd off shot gun might you guys bea able to add a third berrel to the sawd off that shoots a rifle round or like a slug out of the third berrel šŸ¤”šŸ˜…

daring fossil
# undone pasture kinda not excited for terminal attack ranked, am i wrong to feel this way?

I grew up playing Counter-strike, I have probably 15000 hours combined in every iteration of counter-strike and I hate terminal attack. It doesn't compliment the game mechanics at all, and if they are going to balance weapons and stuff around it, it will just make the game worse. I don't play ranked often right now, but I try every once in a while when I'm bored. If TA is the only ranked mode, then I won't play it at all

cinder slate
#

Yes being excited for terminal attack being ranked is wrong. It's is not the point of this game at all. If i wanna play that type of game I'll go play siege or CS. The whole reason this gained any traction to begin with was because it was such a different style of shooter. I get they're doing the like " world cup" thing for cash out or whatever they're calling it but TA should have been an LTM. Hopefully the devs realize this at some point and change it because if they continue to emphasize TA it may turn into the last nail in the coffin for such a great game. Of course this is my opinion and all but I really feel this way. Love yall.

proud lantern
#

NERF HEAVY PLEASEEEEEEEEšŸ˜­

spare flame
#

buff the other classes instead lol

heavy just has way too much kit/utility compared to M and especially L

rose verge
#

are you going to fix crash to desktop before season 3 or is there any reason at all to keep playing this trash

pseudo latch
#

Day 83 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

  • 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
  • 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS. No headshot modifier to keep DPS from becoming insane.
  • Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets, youā€™re probably not getting higher than 150 DPS even as far as 10 meters.
  • bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
    • significant damage to structures and players
    • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
    • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
    • its a goddamn minigun
  • - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
  • - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no ā€œpocket minigunā€ strats, choosing to use this mid-combat is a commitment, one that could get you killed.
  • - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

What, you thought I was done just because minigun didnā€™t make season 3? Hereā€™s to another 90 days baybeee!

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delicate marlin
#

terminal attack isnt better than cashout. I like this game's weird unique gamemode. Having TA replace cashout in ranked play is a bad idea. Maybe on the new map its better but on all of the current maps its way too attacker sided. on CSGO its a bit better because you could see where the enemy was going and rotate accordingly. The way the maps are designed in this game doesnt allow that luxury. Attackers can just deahtball and there really isnt anything defense could do. TA is fun but its still just a worse version of CSGO

patent night
little pawn
#

Please tell me you upgraded the custom lobby for S3, like right now it's so outdated and buggy, you can't choose teams and sort them inside the lobby and once the lobby has been created you can't change the map or the mode!!!! Yeah and Nerf heavy for god sake, I'm so sick of the HHM meta and getting our whole team destroyed by two RPG in just 2 clicks!!!!

narrow nacelle
#

Imagine a best play at the end of a match on top of kill cams

craggy nova
#

If the game shows player and team playing good game in the bill boards on the buildings and announcing players names that would be sick in the game.

twin slate
#

#REVERT TA RANKED

still pewter
#

Iā€™d like to be able to go into practice mode with my buddies, like apex legends firing range

hardy bridge
upper citrus
thorny parcel
#

The Cashout steal challenge is the worst. I hate playing cashout with the 3v3v3+ format and the challenge makes me have to play selfishly

cold pilot
#

Buff Sword

  • When you hold down the right button, you will be keep sent to a random enemy.
  • Specialized skill Q, when activated, blocks projectiles (including bullets) from all directions.
  • Specialized Skill E, dash no cool down when activated, unlimited use.
  • Specialized Skill R, when activated, performs a superior sword technique that causes all living creatures within 50m to lose 100 health each time they are attacked.
distant agate
#

U serious

iron bough
#

Just don't play ranked and enjoy the game? No? Ok <:v

north beacon
#

the new players rank change gets will never make up for the number it losses

half owl
#

hug_friend GJ EMBARK!!!!!
TA RANK will bring 20M player back!

proud lantern
unreal fossil
#

In one of my latest ranked games, I saw a team qualify for the next round by hiding from fights and stealing at the last second using the whole barricade/dome/mesh/healing beam combo.

I really hope Embark has thought about fixing the rules of Cashout for S3, so that defending objectives benefits teams more (cash bonus). A team that successfully prevents its cashouts from being stolen for 3/4th of the timer -which usually implies a lot of fighting- should never get disqualified by a camper team that keeps waiting in corners for most of the round. You could argue that it's a risky strategy as it can fail. Indeed. But if it works, it does not feel fair.

IMHO, teams that make it to the next rounds should be the ones that actually 'played the game', fought their way through the round and displayed the most skill. If you're stalling, you're not playing.

I'm not talking about final rounds, as this strategy just can't work in a 3v3 scenario, and I'm pretty sure these teams get beamed if they make it that far.

EDIT: lots of people seem to fear that TA becomes the only Ranked mode, please read the game announcements channel, the devs have cleared that out already.

tame quest
#

What is this error?

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pastel merlin
#

Idea to buff the Grappling Hook-
The grappling hook will work as normal but if you hold down the Specialization button it will launch a unique zipline for you and your team.
This zipline can have special effects like being much stronger than a basic zipline(4 melee swings/ 2 nade launcher shot) but not for teammates, so you dont let a team sneak up on you before you can break it.
It can also let your teammates zip on it 25% faster but enemies zip 25% slower.

The Grappling Hook can also perhaps have a separate cooldown to the Zipline.

outer cloak
#

Hey everyone! I went to launch the game today and was met with a "Fatal Error" stating that the game requires Secure Boot? I have never had this happen before and am really stumped. Any ideas? Thank you for the support!

ebon spire
#

why players often disconnected? is the server is a trash or the player just a bunch of idiots?

drifting pawn
#

just adding my ticket into the complaint box: terminal attack replacing cashout for ranked is not the way to go. i foresee player numbers dropping rather than climbing, which is not good

tame crag
#

Please give more fun ranged weapons to medium and heavy. Light has a monopoly on them.

opal socket
#

Yo embark I completely understand the s3 ranked changes, and how they will help CASHOUT evolve into a better, more esports ready game mode, I just think there should be a way to earn the bronze-diamond ranked rewards though world tour. This will make it so the CO fans have a way to get the diamond skin while testing the evolving CO gamemode. You can still keep ruby and maybe emerald ranks tied to the actual TA ranked mode for players that want to grind for that. This will make it so both TA and CO fans can participate in the diamond skin grind.

twin slate
#

nerf fucking throwing knifes

shut stirrup
#

Embarks, I donā€™t think you should change ranked into terminal attack, your community doesnā€™t want the game to be unrecognizable and a reskin of csgo, cashout is its own unique game mode for rank, and we all think that changing it to TA is gonna hinder the game instead of gaining more players. Also donā€™t listen to players who never played the game, make the game of how u envisioned it to be, a fast paced heist game ( cashout)

young hamlet
polar gorge
#

idk all i think is

  • terminal attack was a cool concept, like power shift. better executed and more fun.
  • i dont think it deserves to completely delete the literal damn gamemode the game is based around. the finals tournament is like, the game. its so much more intense and exciting than any other ranked gamemode ive ever played, significantly more so especially than the most boring ranked format (5v5 brainrot) which is what is phasing out the creative and interesting ranked format they currently have.
  • if watchability is the issue why not just like, make the competitive gamemode more watchable, instead of making it movement shooter valorant with destruction? im very much for the "fix what you have" philosophy instead of the "we tried something new and it didnt work, lets scrap it and just follow valorant" philosophy

sorry for yap sesh chat just had to get out my opinion on the matter

daring ravine
#

Season 3 add full support to keyboard and mouse for consoles please

rocky verge
#

New light ability to replace invis
Swap places with an enemy (only works when light is ON the ground to prevent a swap after jumping off the map)
This ability would allow light players to flank or use melee easier, while also allowing for a set up, seems versatile enough, probably a slow cooldown though, and medium range. Requires line of sight

hardy bridge
jagged bough
#

ā€œRanked isn't the only game mode I play, but Terminal Attack is the only game mode I don't play.ā€ -some random wise redditor

crystal umbra
#

Terminal Attack suggestions:
-Makes smaller maps
-Decrease the plant time window
-Decrease the time between rounds

I personally AM NOT looking forward to having my diamonds locked behind a game mode I do not play but since it seems we have made up our minds please hear me out.

I've never played a search and destroy game mode that I liked but HEAR ME OUT THOUGH:
if they managed to get some SMALLER maps, and have the pace go MUCH faster and have the rounds happen MUCH quicker. Maybe then maybe folks enjoy terminal attack.

It is a million times slower than cashout and so boring when dead.

We like the action packed ADHD gameplay in the finals and research shows that attention spans have collectively lowered. (Litterally)

If there is any way you guys can continue to tweak the game mode to have it keep the action going then maybe you can make it work.

Me personally? I don't know bro, if I don't get the same feeling as ranked in world tour it's not looking good.

Nice map, thanks for adding the bow that I have been praying for but I ain't happy about the ranked experience being this singular game mode.

Honestly though, who are you trying to please with this change?

eager gyro
#

Terminal attack should have been a temporary gamemode from cns in season 2

languid valley
slate grove
#

Facial hair

trim gyro
#

Move the sticker location on the revolver. U cover it with your thumb

stark notch
sage sonnet
#

PLEASE FIX VEGAS DEMATERIALIZE
so so many walls have 2 or even 3 layers to get through because of a random slot machine or chair and it super annoying

iron current
misty jasper
# unreal fossil In one of my latest ranked games, I saw a team qualify for the next round by hid...

itā€™s a literal stratā€¦this isnā€™t a strat i like to utilize cuz itā€™s boring but u canā€™t be mad that someone literally sticks a steal. Itā€™s your job to defend the cashout the FULL 2 minutes. A decent strat to sometimes counter this is to watch for 3 teams and keep track of which team is fighting who by looking at the scoreboard. Or backing out from your cashout and forcing the two of them to fight. There will ALWAYS be campers in a game even if the rules are against their favor. Plus it doesnā€™t even always work

stone hazel
#

it's incredibly frustrating to misclick a gamemode, immediately cancel the queue, then one second after hitting the cancel button it says match found and throws me in
this has happened so much that im starting to think i can queue matches faster if i just immediately leave the queue every time /j

crystal umbra
#

W new map
W new weapons
W new skins
W audio
W theme
W new rank badges
W rank transparency
w world tour content
W more marketing

L ranked game mode swap

Ya almost got a perfect score. Almost.

stoic tree
#

BRUH

rocky yew
#

Could we please get a flamethrower skin for heavy where he breathes fire and then drinks hot sauce as a reload animation? that would be hilarious

quiet frost
#

Flamethrower skin where itā€™s a bottle of hot sauce and when you chug it you burp fire

quick coyote
#

Keep ranked cashout this season would have been the best season ever if you kept ranked cashout or made both of them ranked. I will still stick by the game but idk how much i will be playing in S3 its a shame i was excited for this season a few days ago was even a bit excited for TA ranked but the finals should be unique and the finals it shouldn't be a rip off tac shooter. If you really don't want multiple teams just have a bunch of 1v1 cashouts but i really liked how the finals was. There will always be issues with unfairness in every game but overall the finals is special and should be that way. No one plays shooter games for 100 percent balancing look at r6 and CS its always defender sided. Look at apex there is third partying and a ton of people play the game every day and its one of the most viewed shooters on twitch.

stuck forum
#

Is anyone else getting kicked from the server constantly?

shrewd tundra
reef linden
#

how can i set up my own voice channel for LFG?

thick sorrel
pliant pollen
supple obsidian
#

Just swinging by to share my personal opinions about Terminal Attack:
IF I WANTED TO PLAY COUNTERSTRIKE, I WOULD PLAY COUNTERSTRIKE.
I 'liked' the finals because Cashout was the core experience of the game. Everything was to be balanced around that mode by the very nature of it being the only Ranked mode.
TA will undermine this and people will now demand balance be based around TA.
This will be true whether Cashout remains in ranked or not.
By making TA a ranked mode you have fundamentally re-oriented the player base's expectations and perceptions around the way the game should be balanced.
I have seen this occur with far too many other games. When a particular mode is made into a ranked mode, the community will inevitably expect balancing of the game be based around that mode.
IT will be a nightmare, the game isnt made to be played this way and you kill many aspects of why the game was fun.

As a paying player and an S1 Diamond, I am extremely unlikely to be returning after this news. The rampant cheating is maddening enough and I struggle to play simply because of that, but this just undermines everything left about the game that I originally enjoyed.

rough herald
#

Light is not under power

DO NOT BUFF LIGHT!! i can still rick shit form every so often, other wise we will have the same heavy vs light problem but its light vs medium this time
just nerf the problem child aka heavy weapon dude and we're golden

and if you want to buff light all you have to do is revert some changes

nocturne fern
#

just took 330 damage from change and slam
guys i took 330 damage from change and slam
NERF THE FUCKING THROWING KNIFES BRO HOLY SHIT

quick coyote
#

ranked is just a pice of shit change it

molten trail
#

plz nerf rpg dmg for season 3. so tired of getting hit to 1 hp with something that takes 0 skill. make it 50 dmg each but two charges. a gadget should not be this good

patent relic
#

Please start penalizing people who leave mid game shit is so annoying

covert needle
#

Guys i was playing with got glitched out when i started match making. Then it wouldnt let me cancel match making and loaded me into ranked solo. So yeah, fuck embark for that. As if its not been hard enough to get ouit of plat 1.

ruby crow
#

Guys Can we please šŸ¤žadd mouse and keyboard support for xbox consoles back. I dont care about the aim assist in there. The game was wonderdul to play uptill season 1.

marsh halo
autumn sedge
#

Embark, thank you for getting rid of most of the cheaters, I haven't seen one in a long time whereas before I used to see many of them.

Also, thank you for buffing throwing knives, even if they were the source of many complaints, I'm happy to see the weapon I started playing this game with be viable. Don't revert the changes; tough you could do something like make throw knives have a faint indicator of the direction instead of very visible like it is when getting shot, since now I actually can land my shots.

Also, even tough there's a lot of negativity about TA as ranked S3, and I may not think it was the best choice, I think the addition of world tour tournament and all the fun stuff we're getting in S3 will make people realize it's still a very good season. They just need to try it out.

Thank you Embark hug_friend

dense dagger
#

Embark. Thank you for thinking I (plat3) should be privileged to play against a team that all 3 players rank in the top 150 players! Its such an honor to get fucking waffle stomped and have all 3 teams be unable to secure even a single cash out due to the OBVIOUS skill gap. Good job making ranked absolutely fucking awful!

Thank you Embark hug_friend

neat salmon
#

#UnpopularOpinion buff light and make soloing easier by making the ranked mode more independent. For example, if u are in gold the software will check how u are playing and compare it to someone in a different rank. Except it will check assists most to keep teamwork a habit and prevent you from derankingbecause of those pesky kill stealers.

polar prairie
#

Ue5 crashing lowkey getting worse

honest harness
# tame quest What is this error?

Not really sure but it looks like high ping for me. There is also another one you may see sometimes which looks like a server which could mean package loss.
But this is just my guess. Maybe we can get a proper answer on this @pearl kiln ?

nocturne fern
#

so can we actually update the game instead of just adding shop updates for the last 5 weeks

plain lotus
#

Full autos just go doo doo doo doo and you win the game, spam infinite knives win the game, so fun

solemn light
#

helllo, i know this is probably not a concern rn, but can you change the Deep Pockets achievement? Like 50M is a HUGE grind and kinda unfair knowing that the Fatal Florist is hard but can be completed in a couple of hours even if you are unlucky. The 50M cash achievements is just a grind for no reason... And I would like to see it reduced to 10M or 25M even

silver stirrup
#

this may get lost in the complaining but i think light having a glitch dart gadget (similar to tracking dart but it glitches a single person fast and with precision) would be a super nice addition to light šŸ™‚
Would be a really nice counter to pocket healers/shielders

weak zealot
#

Can we add the ability to put all four QP game modes in one playlist pls

autumn sedge
#

Idea for small grapple rework: The grapple has very long range, but the further away you shoot it, the more of the cooldown it takes, up to 100%. So if you grapple nearby, it won't take the entire charge. To prevent players just constantly using it's momentum tough it could have a base consumption of like 10% or 20% per shot, + 80 * point distance / max distance

rough herald
#

throwing Kinfe is meh but the burst potential is so stupid
(waiting for the skill issue reply like i can predict that teams will respawn behind me)

wise elm
#

Make The Ranke system Fair
I am playing on platinum 1 currently I understand when I get Diamond 4-3 enemy but not diamond 2 or 1 it's simply impossible for us to win.

prime wing
#

No shot they are having an official tournament with current meta being what it is... šŸ¤£

quick coyote
#

Weapon attachments please šŸ™

floral plover
#

Embark you absolutely cooked with the cook skin

final haven
#

literally nobody wants to grind snd for ranked, we might as well all just play siege

umbral dock
#

so is terminal attack going to be the only ranked mode now? that would be pretty terrible given how that mode goes against several core design tenants of this game. if i wanted to play CS or rainbow six siege i'd just play them lmao

quartz cedar
#

Do not let a full 5-man group get matched vs solo queuers in TA ranked.
Please look into a system that will make it more fair for all.

brisk ruin
#

WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING about the throwing knives lile damn

quick coyote
#

Embark I really love you guys but Terminal Attack as season 3 ranked is an awful choice and world tour sounds good but iā€™m not sure how limiting play styles is going to affect the game.

mighty brook
#

I would have easily taken Bank It over TA for ranked if given the option. sigh

glacial knot
#

Add just 10 min ban for leaver in casual, every leave 10 min ban. Not like ranked the more leaves the higher the leave time just 10 min so they can not join another team instantly

tiny zenith
#

nerf sword omegalul

supple obsidian
autumn sedge
whole palm
#

I think graple would be good if it had 2nd charge and was bit more swingy, more like a rope

smoky hearth
#

make the screen for getting banned say sm like "caught by vaiiya" for lore and stuff

celest tree
#

Can u add ambient animals like birbs and deer and stuff just for more atmosphere and nothing else

prime wing
# brisk ruin WE GOTTA DO SOMETHING about the throwing knives lile damn

dw half the playerbase being pushed out of ranked by wtf mode selection will have people finally facing the 90 percent light lobbies all the light buffs have resulted in within other modes, also obligatory light needs it and whatever else is in your pockets, also is that a half eaten sandwich in your hand? Light needs that too.

long oxide
#

BRING BACK OLD GOO
i cant goo turrets
i cant goo enemies
i cant do anything man

wintry pecan
#

Guys I dont think that they'll balance it around T. Attack, I'm sure that they'll balance it looking at the game in the whole.
In fact, the meta will just change based on the gamemode you're playing, take for example Power Shift and Cashout, the metas are completely different.

Also yeah I just have no idea why they are COMPLETELY replacing Cashout in competitive, this makes no sense, they had the chance to be different from other games and Cashout is LOWKEY lit. Why not just add competitive for people who are interested in TA instead of erasing everything people called The Finals?

rough herald
#

lag spike

mild pond
#

throwing knives should count towards the 15k damage with melee weapons challenge. also can we get an increase to max sens for controller with season 3?

round folio
#

Love having every power shift game have at least 2 cheaters why are cheaters still so rampant

merry creek
#

Solo queue against a 5man stack in ranked TA .... Genuinely lost all enthusiasm for season 3.... praying it's not as bad as it feels currently

brisk ruin
inland cove
dense marlin
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Can we get the removal of hidden deadzone on controller and add outer deadzone to the settings ???

crimson loom
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Sbmm is a joke

silent sleet
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here i have gamefeedback, we need a guille suit outfit, that would be fire. would buy that instantly

ADD GUILLE SUIT PLEAAAAAASE SUCH A FIRE SKIN

tepid magnet
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Tad Iā€™m gonna get skibidi with you

sharp adder
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fix the not being able to shoot bug after team respawn its so annoying and it cost me the match

prime wing
restive bramble
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is the anti cheat system even a concept at this point or am i missing something. i got people actually flying at me in match without a hook. impressive but stupid

pseudo leaf
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dagger is fun don't change anything with it maybe too good (i am talking for ranked)

rugged temple
vapid path
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Please have at least a black or brown color option for the bob šŸ™

fleet trellis
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I just founded there's new voice line, especially one where scotty say "ouuuuuch [line]" don't remember what is the line but this was phenomenal hug_friend

acoustic gust
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Nerf throwing knifes

autumn sedge
hasty pelican
gaunt ember
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Ranked solo ist unplayable at bronze u cant even Rank up cause 50% a Mate is leaving or a small which is running into the enemies i mean Like i am Not the best but my mates are truly bad

plain sapphire
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First ranked of the day, my team is 3 golds, enemy is 6 platinums and 3 diamonds, and my teammate left the game within 10 seconds of starting the round. As a gift i got to rank down!!!!! Very nice game, i hope it fucking dies.

quick coyote
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Keep ranked cashout

cold bolt
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  • I don't play this game for search and destroy, TA being the main ranked mode for s3 alienates me and the people I play with, and I was not impressed when I played TA for the event rewards
  • World tour cash out will only be bronze to gold with a leaderboard based on cash which is a meaningless statistic for a competitive leaderboard
  • World tour cash out sounds like it will have rotating locked loadouts for whatever number weeks at a time which does not sound like fun at all
  • I imagine balance changes will be made revolving around TA which is not good if the plan is to return to cash out eventually. This game should not be balanced around a shoehorned barebones cs/val
  • Outlook not positive on this game having a playerbase by the time s3 ends, there was plenty of time to work on cash out during s2 and you could've had testing playlists with rewards and post game feedback forms
olive shell
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I donā€™t get the explanation that you canā€™t work on cashout whilst itā€™s in ranked?? TA ranked is such a terrible idea. Season 3 going to suck

half owl
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Is there any melee weapon change for S3 TA Rank?
Melee is weak in TA you know.

nocturne fern
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honestly just remove light from the game
or make role queue where its 1 heavy 1 med 1 light
@neat salmon didnt see ur pisstantrum before you edited ur message what were you saying?
@neat salmon i think that light is just a dogshit role and doesnt have a place in the game playing against a med and a heavy is so much more fun

shut orbit
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Please please add more short-sleeve variants for shirts/jackets šŸ™ My cowboy guy needs to show off his arm tattoos but can't with his denim jacket because there's no short sleeve variant

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misty jasper
queen cloud
quartz cedar
neat salmon
spark shard
quick coyote
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here after they ruined ranked :(

proven pelican
tawny oriole
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To attract COD players to the finals, you have to add game features from COD in the game. So stop crying about the finals becoming COD

runic surge
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If exploiting sword emote glitch is bannable, how come people doing it aren't getting banned, or even more important, why aren't the devs fixing the exploit? It's been known for a long time

wintry pecan
hasty cliff
twin slate
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NERF THROWING KNIFES

magic slate
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aynen

fervent blaze
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high key terminal attack sux if it's the only ranked mode

stark notch
pseudo leaf
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getting high ranks is too easy make it harder so i don't want to see plat1 and diamond 4s don't know how to move or shoot ,even some high diamonds are bad at basics in the game

quick coyote
pure matrix
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i would love the ability to spectate a private match if you arent participating, maybe you can switch between any player or maybe a free roam camera like that of a team wipe

void blade
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I really thought embark could make this game blow up for season 3. Instead they blew it. Ranked is now terminal attack and terminal attack only, meaning we are losing cashout tournament ( the only reason i really play), we are losing the current playerbase because of this dogshit decision, and we arent gaining new players because everyone in the community is fuming over the bad decision, turning new players away. You had one simple easy fucking job embark, make a new map, new weapons, and new skins, and then market it, so what the fuck is this?

Side note; if they had them both as ranked and just gambled on getting the player base up by marketing they couldve solved the issue with there being to long of a que time for two ranked modes being in the game, so theres no excuse for them being cowards.

shut orbit
nocturne fern
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moving platforms is so bad on seoul

barren coral
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I would love to see more faces in the shop alongside more variety of hairstyles outside the BP

coarse junco
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Nerf the damn rpg and chargenslam dude

autumn sedge
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Think of it like this: If power shift will be on the new map, people will take a while to get used to the new environment, and they won't know how to get to you

golden surge
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React faster with Balancing things. You had 2 Patches after buffing the Throwing Knives. Two fricking Patches and not a single nerf there.

Same thing with invisibility or Nukes

placid vortex
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Guys let's keep our balancing suggestions linear and one-sided cause I must umagine devs get confused when some people say to nerf throwing knives while others say to buff them.

blissful void
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Hey, @rare spear ! Iā€™m seeing a lot of reactions online to what I believe is incorrect.

Can you please confirm that TA is an additional ranked mode to play for season 3?

My understanding is World Tour will feature Cashout Tournament style play and is primarily a naming convention change with included clarification as to your approach to the tournament style moving forward. I can understnand how the vocabulary can be a bit confusing, but it seems pretty clearly stated to me. You mentioned below:

ā€œIn Season 3, World Tour will feature Cashout tournaments with 24 players as the primary mode. You'll be able to rank up your badge, prizes, check the leaderboards, and play the mode you know and love. These events will always be on and available to play throughout the season.ā€

ā€œCashout will never leave the spotlight as the most important part of THE FINALS. In fact, our first high-profile, official tournament will happen very soon and the mode will be Cashout.
Make sure to be on the lookout for news about that!ā€

void blade
dull elm
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Okay so it's probably way too short term for this to be changed

But it would be cool to have ta be an 5 round gamemode with 3 (so shorter)
And make it a tournament!!!
This keeps the name and also gives it the uniqueness of the finals

I really hope this can be added

odd ibex
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@pearl kiln plz add Kusarigama to lights as it has both chain and blade so can u go for charged attacks for longer range chain blade attack and close range attacks,extremely versatile weapons.

Add chainsaw to heavy class for a short charge forward attack and heavy swing like hammer,imagine the destruction

Add a automatic crossbow(look at the weapon in farcry4)for medium or heavy that sticks to walls and u can climb on it,it give a new range for vertical travel

Add a fast downward lunge attack for dagger while falling and since u go fast downward gravity isnā€™t floaty that does more damage the higher u fall cause I donā€™t want to chase people around like a dumb goose and actually ambush people

U can add a laser sight to rpg thatā€™s visible to everyone as a warning and u need to aim down sight to use rpg so no quick spamming rpg out of nowhere.

U should use grapple hook to stick whenever u want no cool-down to horizontal surfaces up on rooms for ambush and vertical too.

Healing dart gadget for lights so I have a reason to follow team mates not not go solo,atleast u have to be accurate and not a auto-aim beam spam

Add single action fanning revolver for light thatā€™s projectile based,itā€™s accurate long distance and fast fire at close.

Sorry for the ping cause others r complain about s3

autumn sedge
covert nest
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The MMR is still all kinds of freaking whacky :(

lime fable
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Can we get recolours of the default skins for vrs, i want a white symbol instead of yellow on the black shoes but i think recolours of all would be easy to add and easy for me to buy šŸ˜‰

hollow valve
# quartz cedar Half the players can't even deal with losing the first fight, and leave instantl...

I personally do rage quit. And here I'm apologize to the people who might be good but I left alone.

But for most people, LMAO. Why don't they look at themselves and tell whether they even deserve to play with me. No game sense; 50 damage dead after the first fight; leaving me 1v3 and they camp at some corner to wait the cashbox to spawn after I pinged the enemies thousands of times; or no brain rush in 2v3 but couldn't even kill one and die instantly; and most basicly don't even look at the ping rush to some box 180 meters away but not going to a box that's 50 meters away. I sometimes really question whether this matchmaking intentionally nerf me and my teammates' sanity. Only after this can you understand why there would be some pros so toxic and stack up to slaughter the entire noob lobby. And in cash out you better not play the objective and run when you see the things go bad, because it's not worth it saving your team who can't even shoot straight.

I can say it's not worth it to stay and play with them.

And for the good teammates, such as coordinating each other's move, voting our next move, ability supporting each other, even I have a 2 KD and am losing, I would still stay and fight to the end alongside them. Even after one rage quit(happened just yesterday).

warm path
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Solo Bank It mode should be permanent. Light class only. I'd play this mode all day, solo q in ranked is worst.

idle thistle