👂┇game-feedback

[eager mist]

Maybe having a gamemode where each match is sponsored by a different company giving a permanent change for that match? Not just a mini event?

[queen cloud]

I'd love to see a different game mode with proper balancing taken only from actual good players/comp players.
Embark is mostly listening to the casual community, and the problem with that is most of their input is a skill issue. And this leads to the dumb double heavy meta we have now.
Heavy is soo just soo much better than any other class, and it would be okay if it were actually a mechanically/aim challeging class, but it's actually the opposite. You can do all the mistake you want and you still don't die. This would also be okay if he didn't have insane dps/burst dmg potential at any range by combining rpg + lewis.

[lofty coyote]

Is it just me or does fcar feel bad to play after the patch? The game has lost so much of its DNA since launch due to too many nerfs.

[supple oasis]

so, I've just won a game of Terminal Attack, it was my twelfth game of this, and I noticed something
first : the mission of the event to play 10 games of Terminal Attack is actually 12/10 and I believe that I didn't got the 1000 exp
second : I have a daily contract and a contract from the Pro Circuit about winning a game, and that didn't increased after my win
any news on that ?

[rough herald]

Add fall off to sniper
so a sniper headshoting me form mars do a normal body shot damage

[river hill]

I totally support this. However, should we add fall off to all weapons?

[olive vector]

Right there is about a negativity and I get ir there is tweeks that still need doing BUT time for some positives!

Syshorizon is ALOT easier on the eyes and works really well for the new game mode.

The new game mode is SO much fun my team loves it please make it permanent!

Glitch grenades works properly now! 😍

The stun nerf was the right amount and this is coming from a lightweight!

Fcar new mag is SO much better thank you but the recoil seems abit to much on it. And tottally wish you would put 5 more bullets in the XP Sub mag aswell please. 😁

Being able to buy seperate things in a bundle in the store is a mega W!

I personally think the snipers need a damage increase BUT have bullet drop to make them more realistic and harder to use so they arnt just hitscan

The 2 negatives: Cloaking needs addressing. It needs an outline or something. We still cant see it ATALL and it's waaayyyy to overpowered. &
Servers BADLY need sorting. We get so much lag and it's almost impossible for us to use the hammer in england as we Hit people hear the noise but nothing happens.

Anyway thanks embark we are loving the new update so far 😁🤘

[vestal coral]

sbmm still sucks

[main knot]

W E. W A N T O L D. R A N K. S Y S T E M. Thnx

[astral shell]

That contract which requires to play 10 matches of terminal attack is unironically glitched?

[proud eagle]

W E. W A N T N O C H E A T E R S. Thnx

[still tulip]

Revert to old barricades

[chilly plinth]

You should not be able to go rank with your friends if he is lower than you in rank, i can't even count the amount of lower rank premade that i have. It make non sense with the article about the ranked league post with the update

[balmy ivy]

u need to play 14

[pseudo breach]

Please allow us to at least reroll circuit contracts once or twice. Playing Power Shift is impossible when you're the only Medium and 9 snipers. Or have fixed loadouts or make game mode neutral contracts. This is just brain dead

[smoky sluice]

players who play a stretched resolution cant change character at the beginning of a round anymore...

[quick coyote]

pls sent this type of bug in#1201841543926005810

I'm looking for people who will help me level up

[distant chasm]

we will have keybord and mouse support on console

[rough herald]

nah just anything that have 2x scope plus

[pliant moss]

I HATE ranked tournament, my two teammates just disconnect in the last game, I have to wait 15 min to the match go finishi all alone 1 vs 3 🤬🤬🤬

[signal basin]

Very interresting meta in ranked mode. Just to remember you.

Congrats Embark for destroying your game by listenning whiners medium and heavy players

[toxic iron]

lmao youre in gold none of these guys are playing meta lol

[hazy shore]

The sword is basically not usable with how many hit regs it gets per game.

[gleaming summit]

meta = HHM jump in with 2 RPGs, place 20000hp shield, destroy everything = win
and after the fcar nerf you can kill mediums so easy as heavy.

[vestal coral]

heavy nerf too strong and easy to use

[rapid stream]

MMM isnt meta

[cold glen]

ranked is very flawed, gold 3 players dont even know basics of the game

[unreal fossil]

'That was its fkn purpose to punish players that were not playing their role or objective'... This is very hypocritical, outside of Ranked, most Lights I've played with or against didn't care about their team or the objective.

My reaction is based on countless Quick Cash games with triple L invis+stun teams that did nothing but chase easy kills, using the stun gun crutch to get a miserable 1:1 KDR, annoying the hell out of everybody else for the entire duration of the match.

Light players got the stun gun nerfed just like Heavy players got the nuke nerfed. 🤷🏻

[river hill]

Power shift in a nutshell

[hoary timber]

game good, just revert some of the light stuff, actually i just had a cool idea, what if you put two cashhboxes into a vault and its worth like double

[rose condor]

Hey is there any reason that when I'm playing on fullscreen mode my mouse goes outside the window and when I click to shoot someone my game just exits into windowed mode and I die when I shouldn't have

[north eagle]

dagger's backstab is a little off sometimes. it seems the back of the head doesn't count for a backstab, and sometimes I'll backstab, and the hit marker is right on their back, but I don't get the sweet, sweet critical hit.
can you guys fix this maybe?

[light charm]

game is crashing more than ever. ive played 3 games and all 3 have crashed, pls fix this asap

[random patrol]

please add messaging system, im not even joking when i say cheaters deserve to be mentally abused

[devout aspen]

x)

[upper citrus]

this is already in the game

[vestal coral]

but can you fix this game? I'm serious, it's a horrible experience. Sbmm horrible done very badly, loners who have to play against teams, very strong people put against very poor people, it seems that the alone and the poor are only placed to fill the lobbies and entertain the teams of sweaty lifeless people, cheaters almost every game, general balance of the totally busted game. It's all so obvious that it's done very badly, just look at the fact that there are teams where just one gets more than 15/20 kills and then entire teams where they get 1, 2 kills and 10 deaths. And if everything is done really badly, nothing can be saved from this Game, the only thing that is saved is that it has enormous potential that you are throwing down the toilet.

[glad lance]

Please let us crouch, use emotes, use voice lines, and basically do everything except move during the countdown before a round of the new mode starts!

[quick coyote]

stop make a npcs matchmaking pls.... g2to g4 easy in 1hour

[queen cloud]

fcar should have never got nerfed with how op heavy was

[pseudo breach]

Everything is broken in this game man. I'm pretty sure not even the devs know how the ranking system works

[toxic iron]

its like that in the higher ranks, i know shocking that high ranks is hard

[quick coyote]

I'm looking for people to play ranked gold +

[river hill]

A competitive game, but they don't know how ranking works? That's funny

[jovial bane]

Please add a Geo shaped Fox outfit for your contestant with a Tail and tuxedo leggings as well as a tuxedo as a upper-body, with a added skin for the handgun for medium as a nine tailed fox theme Making it as if you were a Sly fox James bond. Would look sick

[signal basin]

Fix this too Embark. He's not a medium

[wind gulch]

The impulse to use Tracer's recall / rewind ability while playing Light is still as strong & frequent as ever. Would make for a great gadget.

[versed dagger]

M1 garand skin for the lh1

[queen cloud]

i'll never be comp because devs keep listening to this dumb community

[pseudo breach]

Well, not a single person from Embark has explained how this new ranking system works. You can win 3 tournaments in a row and go up 1 rank, get to 2nd place in the 4th and go down 2. It's idiotic

[viral cipher]

how about just remove the stun and replace with something better like how recon was replaced with demat

[stuck trench]

Bruh this isn't a competitive game.

Embark exclusively balances for people so bad at the game I'm convinced they eat glue and stick crayons in their nose.

[unreal fossil]

Cant happen due to the ammo count, unless you want to see 8 round clips count as 15.

I would like to see an EBR skin however.

@pseudo breach could depend on which rankings the teams you won/lost against were.

From my experience losing against teams that were higher tier resulted in a minor rank up or minor rank down. Losing* against lower tier, major rank down. Winning against higher tier, major rank up.

[chilly plinth]

Well if you consider Platinum 2 is high rank you are right i guess. I've never had anything like that before the update, it was all fine but whatever...

[tardy orchid]

I dont have some rewards from finishing the new game mode challenges. Is this a bug that's going to be fixed

[fast mortar]

Lol you should only be getting better at this game. If you can't compete in ranked then don't play ranked.

[arctic tartan]

My account must be fucked or something but out of 102 games 74 wins 28 losses still going down on ranks is pretty nice😂 I get arrows up only on winning the ranked game

[quaint badger]

let us see our ranked points

[upper citrus]

The lewis gun is a genuine design failure

It's standard FPS design for the "tank" class to be limited in it's range, this is ALMOST how heavy works. It really seems like you guys stuck to that. Every other heavy weapon is designed for close range and loses at longer ranges. The MGL is also genius because it gives heavy the option for long range while being very limited and committal to it's playstyle, being practically useless up close. These weapons are all incredibly well designed and fit the class perfectly.

Everything breaks when you get to the lewis gun. Better TTK than the M60, Better range than the M60, Can beat the SA1216 close up in a 1v1, Can beat the M60 close up in a 1v1. Where is this weapons weakness? The reload isn't longer compared to the M60, The ammo difference hardly matters when both weapons have a ton, it's not limited to ranged engagements by being weaker at close range via low fire rate, it somehow has BETTER hipfire than the M60. What is the trade off?

If heavy is going to have a long range option it needs to be committal and weak at close range. Honestly, slightly buff the lewis gun's range (min and max fall off), lower it's recoil, and drop it's rate of fire by 25-30%. This will force the lewis gun to be used for long range defense and will have it lose to the other options close up, even the options on medium. Long range options on heavy should be niche picks, they should be reserved for when your team's comp lacks on range but you rely on having a certain amount of heavies.

[digital shoal]

I'm perturbed that my cumulative XP between reaching Lvl 96 and the release of the Battle pass extension is not accounted for. Days and days of XP gone to waste. The pain is even greater with the 24k per lvl requirement. I appreciaetthe BP extension, but don't forget I did pay for it.

[toxic iron]

just keep playing the game you'll get it in no time

[tepid flame]

Skyway powershift has such an unbalanced spawn. Doesn't feel fair that the one that spawns on the building gets free cover in their spawn and can snipe freely but the spawn at the construction area gets 0 cover and is always under fire from snipers no matter where they are

Just saw there was a powershift feedback channel, just gonna leave this here still anyways

[queen cloud]

but then all them heavy mains complain they get beamed while running in the open like bots.

[violet elbow]

this game just feels like its exclusively balanced towards heavy being the best class at this point, medium is just a healbot and light has zero place in the meta now, your balancing has just failed because you only listen to casuals who cry every time they get axed by somebody better than them, its a shame

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[quick coyote]

Ranked is too punichsing now that it's 3, DUDE. at Plat 1, I made it to round 2 and I lost two down arrows wtf? NO FP change is ok but 2 down arrows for not making it to final round?

[digital shoal]

24k is too much. Going from 3k-6k-9k all the way too 24k? Too grindy and not as rewarding.

[rancid pine]

next page is 40k btw

[wicked hamlet]

debuff stun gun + debuff cloak+ debuff invis grenade+ debuff xp-15 BRUHHHH. Is the dev trying to remove Light?

[mental anvil]

Think maybe talk it over to where in the settings you could have different sensitivity and controller/button mapping for ea build class .. would be a huge QL feature

[queen cloud]

have to give it to them. Audio is soo much better now. But balance is even worse 😄
nerf light and fcar yet don't touch the most op class in the game... Now it's even more op, H/H/M is such a dumb meta.

[wise kindle]

There should be more ranks, like Master, and an actual Top 500 division

[tribal olive]

distant sounds of French approval

[fossil hawk]

I miss the wacky explosive canister grapple thing

[thick sorrel]

Funny how many complain about FCAR now.
1 Nerf (Damage) but 2 Buffs (Damage Range, Magsize) It's more forgiving for casuals and has the same TTK like the AKM which is not bad at all. Stop complaining!
Lights got huge nerfs and got which buffs?

@brittle obsidian He's right. Thanks to Lewis (also Jack of all trades) Heavy's have the best TTK and most HP, countless Shield options and the best explosive arsenal - the only counter Light got destroyed...

@brittle obsidian Ok🤣

[kind light]

1. Fame system based on amount of money earned in the game is total shit. Many diamonds just grief other teams after earning enough money. 3 and 4th place should be considered the same
2. I hope you see that there is like 10% of Light in ranked mode so you should understand that focusing nerfs on casual players whining was a mistake
3. I just get double-down playing second round against 3 teams of premade diamonds+plats while i play solo with random plats. What the hell is this system????

[brittle obsidian]

bro yappin

[warm compass]

why the characters resized even the arena now become smaller less width

[summer elk]

Embark, please let us name our Contestants

[violet pulsar]

Light is Completely unplayable now. give Light a faster regen and remove the reload time from the stun gun

[versed bridge]

#1213572237941284864

[digital shoal]

Punishing.

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[stray basalt]

Love the UI changes when you get kills, assists, and cash outs feels a lot more clean

[brave copper]

They nerfed the mesh in the patch with the cloak nerf and they nerfed barricades in the patch with the fcar nerf. Cry all you want but at least read the patch notes first.

[odd arch]

Remove fucking low gravity

[open elm]

why haven they patched the sword glitch? like hello?

[peak lark]

Dagger is worthless now, bring it back please

[stable lagoon]

Tbh I feel like this balance patch is half-baked at best. FCAR didn’t need to have it’s mag size increased and damage reduced, just a firerate nerf would've made it more noob-friendly. Now it’s even more similar to AKM than it should be.

Also, pretty sure Cloak's 33% charge nerf was supposed to be reverted after it got that other nerf which was supposed to ship last week, and now that we have it when will that nerf be reverted?

[uneven pebble]

buff light.

[kind light]

Solo matchmaking is the worst possible part of this game. I play against premade diamonds stacks while never got any diamonds in my team while playing with randoms. I double-down almost every game even from the second round

[thick sorrel]

I admit Stun & Cloak was a must pick. After several nerfs there is no buff for Light at all. There are plenty feedbacks for Lights already.

[novel zephyr]

Please get rid or change 150K cash deposit circuit contracts. These are very tedious and takes forever to complete. Team contributions don't count for Bank It either, if optimistically you can bank 5K per game that still takes 30 games to complete. And that is probably the best game mode to do it, because good luck getting a good team with Quick Cash.
It doesn't promote healthy team play either with this.

[mortal thistle]

I just grinded bank it for an afternoon

[river plover]

150k is very easy in unranked tho

Oh wait

[flint panther]

sword is broken 140 is too much for a attack

[unreal fossil]

Lowering the ROF would have made the FCAR harder to use for less skilled players, not the other way around. Slow ROF/low ammo count makes missing shots more punishing. Especially in a fast paced FPS where your targets usually don't sit still in the open.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Embark needs to find ways to break off from the current H/M shield/heal/defib meta.

I totally agree with @upper citrus on the Lewis needing major tweaking to put it in line with other Heavy weapons.

• Make the mesh shield narrower
• Move defibs to Light class
• Give Light class faster health regen
• Restrict the healing beam any way you see fit so that it becomes a recovery tool, not a combat support tool

Stalling should not be a way to win fights and games, being the most offensive should.

Also add cash rewards for unlocking vaults, starting and defending cashouts, so that playing the objectives at all times is more rewarding than opportunistic third partying.

[brittle obsidian]

I know he's right, i made the same post yesterday. I just like annoying him because its funny

[tame pivot]

the problem is that they aren't new players, you got heavy mains that have been playing since closed beta who are convinced that the heavy class has been getting the short end of the stick since the beginning 🤣 you literally had people calling a MMM meta during the nuke meta

[grizzled canopy]

Day 30 of asking Embark for medieval cosmetics/bundles ||i gave up 😔||

[lethal sand]

I'm plat 1 and I almost hit diamond (I'm doing it solo). I consistently reached the semifinals and finals and got arrows up, but after the update, loss in the second round in 3rd place takes away arrows from me as much as victory in the final gives. Is this exactly how it should be? 😭

[wintry basin]

Game feels so shit after the patch. Heavy raigns again. Nerfingmedium and light is no brain. Also the new ranking system is impossible to rank up

[foggy orbit]

Don't get me wrong I absolutely love and adore every CM here, they are incredibly valuable to the integrity of this server, but when it comes to feedback, only being able to pass on information to the developers is the biggest issue. I absolutely hate how there is no interaction or open discussion to be had from the embark developers that alter the game balance and pull the strings in the background. I, and I'm sure many other would love to understand the direction this game is heading. Despite the fact that developer insights are shown in the patch notes with a dev note, not every significant change features a developer note, and quite often the dev notes tend to be incredibly vague.

Seeing how they nerfed cloak and wanting to make visibility easier to see, with no other buffs to cloak or any other specialization to compensate for the massive nerfs it got, I simply wonder why?! How do the developers want me to use cloak? Cloak used to be a stealthy specialization, yet the iteration of the cloaking device we have today seems to make you easier to detect at close to mid range (where most team fights tend to happen) compared to not activating it at all, that to me speaks volumes speaks volumes to how unsure the developers are with the balance of their game. I wish they would lean on the stealth and utility of cloak, being able to get into positions and actually surprise the enemy, there are so many ways they could have reworked cloak to be more interesting and better to fight, but instead they chose the path of destruction, and made it horrible to use out of the fear of the casual playerbase.

[sturdy thicket]

fishnets skin

[digital shoal]

3k-6k-9k---24k----40k is not a good BP spread. In the spirit of not just complaining and offering a solution, make Daily's worth 4k ea. Perhaps penalize rerolls so they are worth less. So at least I can get a level within a couple days of casual playing and not balls to the wall grinding. You will lose my attention if rewards are too few and far between. I don't even like the page 14 rewards. Yellow is gross. But I still feel compelled to try and unlock them. Don't take that away.

My original complaint was that experience gained during the gap between me completing the original 96lvls and the BP extension is unaccounted for. Why not retain those points like you did when expanding the Career progression during Season 1?

Also, I miss my FCAR. I read your motivation behind tweaking it but feel it was just fine the way it was. Very damaging of M class to have changed it.

Sorry to complain! I do love your game and I know I'm not a developer and don't know all of your motivations. These are just my grumblings from the most recent update. Less fun for me all of a sudden.

P.S. I do like Terminal Attack.

[rain axle]

They should keep the new game mode ong

[vestal coral]

sbmm it sucks can we improve it before 2 years?

[warm compass]

new game mode is boring we need faster gamebased objectives

[open elm]

cant believe they keep bringing the skill ceiling closer to the ground. Even after nerfing the Fcar dmg once and adding a range multiplier, why was it necessary to nerf its dmg even more to the point its basically an AKM with a scope and less in the mag? It was a gun for players that were confidant in there shots, knowing they had limited bullets but a higher reward. The fact that this gun got nuked twice, and the lewis is still doing more dmg than a 20 mag gun shows who they are really catering too. Idk who was whispering in embarks ear, but this change was not needed. Fcar is a playstyle, not just a gun

[rough herald]

nerfing stun to only slow without hipfire is like nerfing mines to only boop people in the air without damage

[quartz oak]

It’s a W mode idea but people die so quickly, it feels like the objective is pointless

[floral phoenix]

plase make it so i dont get the same contract 3 times in a row, k thx

[pale cloak]

I think the FCAR nerf was good because it makes the FCAR not the best weapon between the AKM and FCAR and it lets you choose depending on your strengths as a player, not forcing you to use the FCAR because it’s a better weapon. The FCAR nerf also made lights with evasive dash more powerful because missing a couple shots could result in the light player winning (making the AKM more powerful in a match filled with lights).

[pseudo latch]

Lowering the RoF would have made controlling its already non-existent recoil even easier and thus lowering the difficulty of use for newer players without buffing skilled players like an extra 80 damage in the mag has.
They do, but gutting heavy as you suggest is not how to do it. Nuking Lewis down to how weak the rest of heavies options are? Narrowing mesh shield to weaken its original purpose of team defence? Are you nuts?
Defib does not need to be a light tool, it would be used so improperly 90% of the time, if light players used it at all.
Nerf medgun “as you see fit” doesn’t help anyone. What does this mean?
I love brute force as much as the next guy, but brute force shouldn’t be the best and only way to win, stalling out a point is and should be a viable strategy.
There is literally already cash rewards for doing those things but just gradually defending, which I agree would be nice, a portion of cashout should be from defending it, but not enough so that third-partying or stealing last second isn’t worth doing.

@river plover they wouldn’t be good revives though, would they? They’d be “im putting you at half health back in the middle of that team, good luck!”

[river plover]

As a resident light user I wanna add that I would become a crazy combat medic going for the wildest revives ever if I was granted defibs

@pseudo latch
Thats why light is so nice, you already know I would be doing the most crazy dash juking to quickly get to a safe spot

Portal would also do wonders

[north eagle]

thoughts for light:

give light a selfish healing item (like a stim) to get back in the fight quicker, or tank damage by instantly healing it back, because light dies super quick

remove explosive mine. they're so annoying, and super campy. also, two of them clumped together can instakill lights and mediums. almost every single non light player has explosive mines in their loadout, and removing them will make people use different mines

give lights a tracer style recall, so they can get in and out of a pickle, and get behind people who are chasing them (maybe for a backstab)

[wintry basin]

They just making it like call of duty. A lot of guns but no skill expreession. all same bullshit. Fcar was a tradeoff gun. Now its just a worst ak with scope. Cant balance shit for casuals and competitive. it never works. do it like league of legends balance gamemodes not whole game. Might skip this patch. Not having fun at all with medium or light

[pseudo breach]

I have no words to express how much I hate the stun gun, but the nerf to that extent was unnecessary. I feel like ADS should be allowed, but not specialisations or gadgets

[strange quail]

Can we get more game mode variations? Say a cash out of 5v5 or a ranked option for a 5v5?

[sharp violet]

I don't want to make it seem like I'm specifically attacking you, but this mindset is just crazy to me.

What exactly was the FCAR bad at prior to this patch?

You said it was a "tradeoff gun" but what tradeoff was there? It has a very tight pattern, the recoil is very easy to manage, the best sight of all the rifles, and of course it has a smaller mag, but a noticeably fast enough reload that it rarely gets you into serious trouble if you're playing right.

It was the most dominant for a reason - the damage it dealt was superior to the other rifles while having almost no real downsides or tradeoffs for how much better it was than both ARs

And that's just talking about ARs. If you want weapons that have more skill expression, the model and revolver are right there waiting for you.

Even the riot shield and cl40 have a lot of tech and can be pretty scary when you use them to their full potential.

It's just disappointing & childish to see people making generalizations about the balance of the game because a single gun got nerfed lol

[thick sorrel]

Amen🙏🏻

[cyan void]

As someone who just got into ranked now to get the gold gun, how the FUCK does this ranking system work. Last three games, I won a tournament and my rank stayed the same. Then I lost the next match in the first round, and my rank stayed the same. Then I lost the next match in the first round, and my rank went UP two pips? Explain

EXPLAIN

not to mention how people of very different ranks are constantly getting matched against each other. I had to fight entire teams of mid-golds while I was slogging my way up silver yall

[stone temple]

same here, ranked system is very confusing tbh

[peak gust]

One of the main reasons i started playing this game is that i loved how good the sound worked, but after every "fix", for me the sound gets worse and worse, and now i cant hear light players at all, even worse if they are invis, cant see them at all or hear them at all anymore.

[wise kindle]

9 Ranked marches in a row i get randoms that are so bad they play like BRONZE, fixe your game fixe your ranked play its fucking dog shit !

[unreal fossil]

Lowering the ROF with the same ammo count essentially lowers the DPS and raises TTK, I really don't see how that would be easier to use.

[warm crown]

Y u destroy fcar 😢

[signal root]

Skill based matchmaking is doing its thing, that’s where you’re at until improvements come

[pseudo latch]

Yeah that’s the point of a nerf, like what the FCAR was supposed to get. Not a buff disguised as a “high elo nerf”

[solid glacier]

you have until the end of the seeason to complete it, no? not every challenge can be completed in one evening

[lucid barn]

When will Heavy get nerfed?
No. don't ruin heavies accessory.
Restore heavy shields as they were.

All you have to do is to strongly: Reduce. the. damage. output.
Heavy should be low range low damage, high survivability. Not a panzer doing as much damage as a medium

[lusty portal]

Ranked is chalked now, I can make it to the finals and win and somehow go down an arrow? No point in playing ranked anymore.

[ruby brook]

new gadget stim for light adds 150 hp over 3 second with 2 uses can be thrown at teamates for the same effect makes light into a healer while also fixing the health debate

[hollow breach]

Balance changes wish list season 3:

Add the second C4 charge back to Heavy class. Carriable nuke meta is gone so please bring it back.

Give the following items an internal cooldown (An internal cooldown prevents specializations and gadgets from being spammed whenever)

Mesh shield 5 second cooldown after putting down the mesh shield. Revert some of the mesh shield nerfs. Revert some of the Mesh shield nerfs. The problem with mesh shield big health was not because it had a lot of health but that you are able to pull the shield out whenever you felt like it making it feel oppressive and unfair to play against with such high health and no cooldown between each use.

Cloak honestly needs a buff. Give it a 3-5 second cooldown when you take DMG while in your cloak making it so you're unable to re-cloak back every time and please revert the duration and consumption rate of cloak.

APS turret and Sentry turret. I am honestly surprised they don't have this in the first place. Why you're able to place down one of these turrets and the cooldown already starts so you are able to place another one right after the previous one is destroyed. It's very oppressive to play against. Make it so that cooldown starts after it's destroyed! It also promotes picking up the turrets rather than just spamming it whenever.

Give Data Reshaper 2 charges and put a 3-5 cooldown between each use to prevent Mediums from deleting everything on the map.

Heat Vision should display hazardous elements such as fire and poison etc.

Glitch grenade still feels niche against Mediums. I propose that glitch grenades destroy APS and Sentry turrets and remove mines without triggering the effects (fire, poison, explosion, glitch, etc.), increase glitch grenade duration to 7-8 seconds

Glitch trap needs a major buff!!! Increase duration of glitch effect to 15 seconds. Give an indicator whenever somebody has stepped on your mine. I've tried it out and you can't tell if somebody stepped over your glitch trap because it deals no DMG so it doesn't have a hit indicator on your crosshair. It also deals 50 DMG now

Increase smoke grenade duration and radius

Defibrillator revive animation should start when WITHIN revive range of the statue. This change makes Mediums more vulnerable during revive. I still think it's ridiculous a medium can fall out of the sky and instant revive their ally and disappear again.

Defibrillator optional increase the revive duration as if you were reviving by hand.

Fire (Pyro grenade) should prevent healing or reduce healing of healing beams so it works kind of like a caustic effect

Give tracking dart 1 more charge and give it to mediums.

Increase sonar grenade duration

Give stun gun the ability to disable gadgets and specializations

Remove flashbang from blinding allies because there's no warning or indicator to tell your teammates that you've thrown the flashbang it also give you a falls hit mark indicator when it blinds your allies making it a confusing gadget to use.

Increase flashbang duration

Give breach charge a second charge or lowers its cooldown or be able to detonate it faster

Increase 93R DMG slightly and headshot dmg too

Give grenades and similar items a WARNING like a indicator something like waygate. It makes no noise or any warning of it being thrown. it's deadly. Same goes for gas grenade, pyro, flashbang, etc.

Give motion sensor 3 charges, bigger radius and it should only make noise when someone walks in its radius instead of constantly making noise. So basically it's ''offline'' until someone is in it's radius and then it goes ''online'' and starts the signaling and sound effect. This makes it a more stealthy / surprise element. Same could be applied to sonar grenade

Increase gravity cube duration, radius and health. After it has ended it does a gravitational pull to the ground and enemies being pulled down take some DMG. This encourages to destroy the gadget more

Give grapple hook two charges

[woeful arch]

Loss streak on the game today, including in my favorite game modes so feeling a bit down. Recently my most exciting wins and win streaks came from playing with gamer friends met through The Finals' VC. But the problem is that if we don't stay in touch outside the game's VC we miss each other's game time and not everyone has Discord so it's easy to lose track of people and go back to queuing solo. There's a case when I stayed in touch with gamer friend on Discord and things were said in voice that made me uncomfortable and even more anxious to get on VC with random folks.

Seeing that winning the game is very dependent on team communication, it's hard to understand why basic text chat hasn't been implemented yet. If there's no text chat in Season 3, I'll unfortunately not be able to keep playing the game as going on Discord VC or even game VC is now giving me some level of anxiety after aforementioned bad experience. Love the game and it'll will always have a special place in my heart but I have to prioritize games that make me feel comfortable and safe when interacting with fellow players. Hope The Finals goes even more in the direction of that sort of game ❤️

[silver sparrow]

Out of the 24 in my previous ranked tournament, 13 got kicked from the first round. The one remaining 3 stack team obviously won…just an issue that made it not fun….

[wintry frost]

The new popup when you do kills/team wipe/cash out + the sound is amazing!
You get a great dopamine hit

[vestal coral]

too many mines and turrets

[drowsy stump]

I think we can all agree because they added 8 more levels to the battle pass let’s not go making the future ones cost more. Am I right people? I can smell a cash grab on the horizon.

[tired girder]

Why was the slide mechanic changed. It's ruined movement. I can't place a jump pad and then slide into it any more. Can't slide while using healing beam. Can't slide after melees Can't slide immediately after being revived. Can't slide while defib. It's completely changes the feel of movement and I feel like it's a bug or a mechanic you tried to change for another purpose with the oversight of how it would affect so many other aspects of movement. Many times I go to slide around a corner and end up dying because it just results in me crouch walking instead. This had never been an issue before. The game now feels very clunky to me.

[sharp jasper]

Please continue to add bonus pages in the battle pass

[slow crescent]

Embark, you should to give more ranked points when in match you play on plat an against you only diamonds and less do minus them. And i dont now how it is really do, because stupid arrows

[acoustic storm]

Currently, when throwing goo barrels on the ground there is a chance for them not to "explode" and just bounce off the ground.

[unreal fossil]

I'm not saying I agree with what was done to the FCAR, though.

On the Heavy subject: AFAIK the Lewis deals 25 damage per hit (non crit), which puts it on par with the FCAR prior to the latest patch, with more than twice the ammo count, slightly slower ROF, in the hands of the tankiest class of the three. It's efficient from close to mid range, has decent hipfire, and its lateral recoil that kicks in if you fire it for too long isn't even a downside, since you don't need to fire more than short bursts to deal a lot of damage. It clearly outshines the M60.

I'm not suggesting that the mesh shield should be reduced to only protecting its user. Making it narrower is just an idea to reduce its efficiency, without nerfing it too hard (HP nerf for instance).

Your argument on the Defibs topic doesn't convince me. You're just assuming that Lights would not use it. Maybe not in casual games where reviving matters less. But why wouldn't they in a competitive setting, where avoiding team wipes is much more important ? And the Light class is actually very suited for pick & run tactics. Just grab your downed mate and dash/grapple away to safety. I am convinced that spreading survivability items across all three classes will help breaking off the HHM/HMM meta.

Healing beam nerf can be done in many ways. Some people have suggested disabling double healing, or making its HP regen rate slower for the first few seconds. I would personally make it Battlefield-like, where you can't recover HP at all while taking damage. Which essentially means that if a team has the upper hand in a fight, the opposing team is almost always forced to pull back temporarily. But that may be a bit too far fetched for The Finals.

It's not a matter of favoring brute force, to be honest. But we're definitely too much on the stalling/defensive side of things right now. Winning games should be less about "who's the best at not taking damage/staying alive" and more about "who's the best at killing enemies ?".

[wintry storm]

add a option to give up on ranked when both teammates disconnect, for the love of god, i just want disconnect and queue again

[chilly plinth]

Win a tournaments and get down arrow ??? NAH THIS is sooooo bad, if i got that one time, i would quit.

[scarlet anchor]

you guys should check out "ollie taylor" new video about The Finals

[shadow wraith]

Does anyone get this bug where if u win a round or two in a ranked gamed u get a tick down?

[drowsy stump]

No need for cash grabs. Let’s not go adding extra ways to grip money out. Cosmetics is fine keep up the work and EARN your money. Not that I agree with how they reskin crap then sell it again but atleast it’s cosmetics I don’t have to buy it.

[cyan void]

I was eliminated in the first round and went up two pips, I'm just built different

[quick coyote]

many cheaters using LH1

[warm summit]

Anyone else think they need to work on the sbm out the ass?

[manic vortex]

Yeah i agree it dog poo

[crystal cave]

Make the light self heal much faster than the other classes

[tardy orchid]

Why do I get down arrows if I've won a match in a tournament?

[lean birch]

From my observation it is like this:

• Lose in the first round: -3
• Losing in the second round in last place: -2
• Losing in the second round in penultimate place: +1
• In the final, winning or losing: +3

[plucky estuary]

why the fuck the game every singl rank game kick me from the game, but when im playing quick or platform 3 hours in raw i never get kick from the game

[somber gyro]

I miss the old fcar 😔

[hallow tartan]

Same😭

[wheat wyvern]

Does anyone else deal with a bug where when you're trying to ADS, your gun just spasms out instead of just aiming down the sight??

I'm an xbox player, and I'm tired of losing gun fights because of this

[pseudo jetty]

It’s a joke that I can still somehow get glued to goo randomly and end up losing. Fix this shit already

[reef jasper]

terminal attack might be the most dragged out, slow, and boring game mode ive ever played

[brittle obsidian]

if you want to delete lights just switch to cl40 or model

[slate epoch]

i'm struggling to complete "Deal 3000 damage from 75 meters away or more" (stage 3 pro contract) i'm about halfway through it but it's def not my guns counting for damage lol, does anyone know how i'm making progress on this?

[river plover]

Please please please fix the spawns already
Fixing spawns will punish players less for dying, which invites players to do crazier plays and get less mad cuss of stuff

It also just kills the entire pace when you have to wait 50 seconds before getting back into the fight when you die

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[carmine warren]

I'm tired of seeing so many nerfs. The power level of the game has dropped a lot since launch. I know there are still outliers (heavy cough cough) that need to be brought in line, but we need some buffs too.

I'm not saying that nerfing is bad - it's an important tool for balancing. That said, buffs are important too. It's disheartening seeing patch after patch after patch dishing our nerfs. The good stuff doesn't feel as good as it used to, and the bad stuff still feels bad.

[vestal coral]

please improve sbmm and ranked they suck too much

[spice stag]

would love a dev to explain why they decided to completely gut the dagger

[rustic grail]

Maybe devs can try giving us a limited time mode in which the balance of OB is back in order to test whether the trend of current balance is proper.

[clear trout]

stop nerfing shit that doesnt need to be nerfed and acknowledge the fact that there is a meta

[warm compass]

boring game mode die with no respawn no healing one time gadget use . waiting in lobby for entire match cancel this mode

[lucid barn]

Also why are respawns STILL broken? Sometimes you respawn on the other side of the map.
When you finally reach the target location the game is over or already cashed out

[peak lark]

bring back dagger

[wet herald]

A nerf sure, not the one it got

[pseudo latch]

A better question, was getting an extra 80 damage a mag for a negligible DPS reduction really a nerf?

[scarlet anchor]

YOU GUYS SHOULD CHECKOUT ''OLLIE TAYLORS" NEW VIDEO ABOUT THE FINALS

[hazy rapids]

IMO I use Fcar because of the sights. I wish all guns had a sight of some kind.

[indigo gull]

facts

[queen cloud]

yes. fcar is soo much worse now

[sturdy ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/k8L4E45rOu0?si=gf64WHV0LUYSJwIv

[crystal umbra]

Based on the votes the FCAR isn't dead, it's just corrected.

The unfortunate truth is that the meta players who only have fun beating the pulp out of players by using the "Most Effective Tactics Available" are not the majority of the player base. In fact, these kinds of players are the minority.

It's a spit in the face of the devs for making any other weapon other than the FCAR.
It is also equally important that the game becomes bland if there is no reason to use any other weapon. (Like the burst pistol on the light class)

People who cry about a weapon is dead is more likely to be wrong. They just like overturned aspects of a game to abuse.

Balancing weapons to make them all viable is for the health of the game.

[plush grotto]

Give famas +1 damage

[fiery orbit]

Add more animations, such as, if a player is mid air he could wave his hands for balance, or if hes fallen from high place and at fast speeds he would fall on his knees and that stuff

[slate epoch]

i agree, the FCAR balances were needed, it was too strong if you knew how to use it and too hard for other people to approach, the balancing works really well from what i've experienced so far (being someone who liked the FCAR already and is still using it lol) if you're... good at the game, landing an extra couple bullets isn't a big deal...

[merry creek]

Seriously what is going on with ranked on xbox?

[desert anchor]

I’ve been experiencing a glitch when I use the vanishing bomb, I stay invisible for the rest of the game even after respawning

[heavy vortex]

Is anyone else really struggling with the new name fonts and health bars, stricty accsesability wise they and very difficult to read while moving fast and health bars are really difficult to see when attacking or using a healing beam.

[night dune]

this game is dogshit most ranked matches are crashes or missing teammate

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[proper chasm]

FCAR needed the nerf but it's damage was over corrected by just the smallest amount

Same with the taser actually. before it was far too OP now it's just a little too underpowered- the taser needs it's UTIL loss back. Before when I got tazed it was god awful now when I get tazed I barely notice the effect.

[tall kernel]

Love the new ui update, the names and pings used to block enemy playe and I couldn’t see who tf was shooting me. Thank you so much for changing that. It was so frustrating

[hasty cliff]

you mind explaining what makes you feel like its dragged out and boring? the devs cant exactly improve with this statement if they dont understand whats causing it in the first place

[sacred siren]

would be cool if you did something special with the diamond fcar skins for top500 or d1's or something, like engraving their leaderboard spot on the skin somewhere

[spice lintel]

in my opinion simple map can be introduced right this mode doesn't goes well with cashout maps...

[pseudo jetty]

Can we start a petition to keep terminal attack permanently?

[carmine warren]

I second this

[autumn yacht]

Agreed, not a fan of the ui changes from the latest update

[queen cloud]

it's an fps game. skill gap is a good thing...
And this is why game balance is soo bad. Devs listen to these people for whatever reason.

[sly arch]

Can we get fewer SYS$HORIZON games, dang. It feels like its the most common map and it was neat when it was new but dang, a little balance between maps please?

[warm compass]

why nerfing vanish clocking visviblity its to easy to see what have you done ???? why nerfing something doesn’t need to be nerf just nerf the stungun why other things please embark buff the clocking and vanishing visibility

[merry holly]

It'd be awesome if the devs actually optimized this game's performance so it could be playable. Apex is more playable than this lol

[fresh shell]

Fix the rewards for the current event contract. CNS shirt is "rewarded" but not in my gear. Same with the call me sign.

[burnt notch]

me an my buddies have noticed connection issue when playing terminal attack. no other game or gamemode has had such severe or frequent lag spikes as terminal attack has. if u could confirm this that'd be great

[vagrant lake]

80% of the matches I've played with terminal attack had one or multiple people not being able to connect, constantly disconnect or just crash before they get into the game, resulting into extremely long loading times. I haven't experienced crashes yet though

About the circuit for terminal attack, I have not received the CNS shirt, didn't check any other yet

[reef jasper]

that is fair!

So when playing the FINALS you can expect fast paced action, a unique objective style, and unique abilities.

With TA (terminal attack) it feels almost entirely the opposite. Playing reserved, limited use of abilities that make the game so exciting, and an objective that is an exact replica of search and destory on COD. It just is not a mode that fits this games playstyle and theme

also should be best of 5 (winning at 3 rounds) instead of best of 7... makes the games extremely long (almost an entire 3 round tounrmanents length, unless the game is a wash on one side or the other)

[crisp oxide]

give us A FREAKING CHAT FEATURE I GOD DAMN SO WE CAN SET UP SQUADS FOR THE LOVE OF SWEET BABY JEWSUS

[marble flume]

Pls bring back snap aim for shotguns it makes them feel terrible on controller or at least have the first shot have aim assist

[proper chasm]

Could we have the 4 ladder ranked matches back? 3 ladders doesn't feel like a tournament

[urban yoke]

why is the game using 93% of my pgu

[dull elm]

https://youtu.be/eyhHeK7ivzk

Just dropping this in here so it'll get a bit more attention

[hasty citrus]

loading screen keep loading infinitly when i'm playing ranked and because of that i lose some games without even knowing. fun times happened at least 15 times since the new update dropped

[silent vapor]

is there something genuinely wrong in the ranking system,or is this just a bug? i keep winning/getting to final rounds and i still barely rank up even when playing with friends the same rank as me they rank up faster. is there a reason for this other than just straight bs?

[willow leaf]

Can we please have collision in the game. I just lost a tournament because of the enemy hiding inside of each other. Super annoying

[pliant moss]

40k of xp for the last battle pass rewards is gigantic 🤯😫

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[timber hazel]

The way you said it make me grin everytime.. Try other gun dude, doesn’t seem like they reverting the change anytime soon. A bit bias here since I grind rank with model 1887 but trust me man. Once you get those 2 shot combo on medium or light. You won’t pick up any other gun.

[honest harness]

This 💯😢

[earnest sierra]

please fix this respawn system i'm tired of it :))

[thorn quiver]

what if the devs made a virtual extension on the v9s (or just a 1911)

[silk sail]

give us back the old season 1 progress tracker for ranked this arrow system is terrible also add more stufff to the wheel like "stay alive|" enemies on my body" if u wont add a game text chat then give us that stop being lazy

[proper chasm]

Can someone tell me why after 2.6 the ranked system suddenly became so much more difficult? I'm constantly being matched with plats that feel like diamond 1 and 2s

[late nymph]

I think the spawns in ranked need to be looked at again. They aren't balenced right now. It seems that there is constant just tripple stacks on points now....

[sharp jasper]

It seems like match making has been fixed imo, i've been matched with my ranks and looking at SS's so have other players

[dark depot]

HUGE RANKED CHANGE NEEDED !!

Please stop deducting points for losing when a member of your team Dcs or rage quits in round 1 !! And if me and my team are DO get through the round then give us SHIT LOADS extra points for doing it 1 man down !!

Too many games are being lost by random who suck then leave ...making an already VERY FECKIN DIFFICULT GAME almost IMPOSSIBLE as 2 players (or sometimes even just as 1 if both your teammates quit)

I shouldn't get negative points because of this

And before you say "but that could be abused" ...no it can't...yous made a game with reconnect. If they don't then they are trolling it's simple

Deduct them not me and make it fairer

[cold bolt]

hello please make spinning your character in pre-match visible to everyone thanks

[slate epoch]

this!! i know it would make me motion sick but also funnny

[short oracle]

Do you know how happy your community gets if they launch their game, or after a match get back to the lobby and a popup shows up saying "a player that u reported has been permanently banned"

we could get that, would be awesome, cuz I do get happy when rob tells me my #video-player-reports made someone get banned

[sour crescent]

😦

[pseudo breach]

Day 38 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[nova socket]

there should be a text channel when your in the lobby thing were u can customize your character n stuff - so you dont have to use voicechat if you want to say stuff to your teamates

[pseudo jetty]

You guys need to better adjust the join parameters in quick play matches. I’m so sick of joining a bank it match, be put in a team by myself or with one player and be losing. Or join a match that ends in 1 minute as a loss cause it’s the end of the match. So stupid

[slim wyvern]

why does it feel like my fire damage does not count on the contracts half the time?

[patent night]

maybe you just need a break dude

everyone raging like this needs one

[proud lantern]

skill issue respectfully

[willow leaf]

Can we please have collision in the game. I just lost a tournament because of the enemy hiding inside of each other. Super annoying

[still forge]

Stungun+Light countered by Heavy:
-Mesh shield
-Dome shield
-Barricade
-Charge N slam
-RPG+1 shot
-Just shoot back because you have +200 HP MORE

Heavy countered by Light:
-LITERALLY ZERO
-F*CK YOU LIGHT PLAYERS!

[clear trout]

issues with the game:

• no balance and the balance patches always cater to shitters, idk why the fuck the devs thought it was a good idea to pummel light, which has been unanimously regarded as the worst class in the game since release while you leave the meta untapped

• servers are dogass; infinite loading screens, random kicks inbetween rounds and also unplayable lag are all really common issues and barely anything has been done to address them

• spawnpoints being "fixed" a few patches ago only made them worse, you have barely enough time for a last second steal? nah, i think i'll spawn you across the map

• cheaters are fucking everyone and everything up, and now there's alot of them in eu AND low ranks, i'm not sure how to dev but i'm sure that it's not that difficult to detect someone 250m away hitting only headshots. Also, what the fuck was the team thinking when they said that cheaters get a 1 week ban before a perma one? Just get rid of them permanently the first time.

• More on cheaters, does the anticheat not hardware/ip ban? cause so many people are ban evading by just making a new account

• sbmm does not work at all, if you do really good one match, you will get shit on for the next 3 matches and that is a guarantee

[placid hazel]

make it where you can tap cashout in new game mode

[jagged cedar]

would love a dev to explain why they decided to completely gut the dagger

[lime crane]

Issues with long distant sniping
The far character models are blurry and ghost. I have tried different settings and DLAA seems to be the best setting, but it is still awful. Am I missing something? An improvement could be fully rendering the far scene while zoomed in. I know many other games do this to increase clarity. Right now, sniping is next to impossible from far distances due to the ghosting.

[thick notch]

Oh i hope they could make like a hide and seek game mode

[signal basin]

Can you add a icon for nade please so we can SEE THEM FOR REAL ?
I just lost a final because of that and because I die full HP by 149 dmg nade... Can you explain me this please and do something for it ?!

[late nymph]

@frozen solstice The ranked spawns are broken. It is just constant triple stack in ranked right now. Please reevaluate the spawn locations.

[wild axle]

Hello, I have some feedback based on a game I just had.
I was playing powershift, and because the opposing team had 4 Mediums each using healing beam, defibs, and ADS turrets, my team could not deal more damage than the enemy team could heal, and the ADS turrets stopped the counter that would have been found in glitch grenades.

Medium having the only source of healing and faster revives in the game and having as much firepower/utility as they do is inherently unbalanced. Medic from TF2 didn't have good guns for a reason.

For example, if 3 or more Mediums are on the Obj with healing beam, ADS turret, and defibs, it is next to impossible to take the Obj. You can't reasonably deal enough damage to 5 players with 3 sources of healing and revives when you can't use glitch grenades. The shape of the obj also makes it incredibly difficult to shoot out ADS turrets.

[coarse lance]

please revert ranked, it is much harder to rank up now, even when getting to the final round you only go up one tick.

[snow panther]

That wouldn’t be the case if they didn’t shoo off 11k players by nerfing light into the ground

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[alpine wren]

please add more diversity to the quests

[pseudo jetty]

Numbers are exactly where they’ve always been. What do you mean?

[ember maple]

Why is it that when an enemy has a teammate leave it fills the spot instantly regardless of when it happens in the match but when my team has a leaver it is NEVER filled?

[keen lily]

fuck this game you can be putting top scores and you still get demoted to lower ranks, unplayable as solo q

[still forge]

solo queue indeed is just terrible and the worst from any shooter i played before. I always plays against higher ranks and almost never see Gold against me. Instead i got devoted in most of my matches after the recent update. This update is a total shit for solo players. Seems like Embark hate LIGHT and SOLO players because maybe they buy less skins

[vagrant lake]

why is there no idle timeout? dude stands afk 9 minutes and only moves in the last like 10 seconds and somehow this is fair lol

[little tundra]

Wait it used to be good?
(Edit: Gotta love that 30 minute slowmode)

[dawn aspen]

You could improve the post game feedback survey. Lots of the options are repetitive and miss some opportunity for other feedback (e.g. stability, people DCing)

[jagged cedar]

it was never good, it is just completely useless now instead of sorta useless

[unreal fossil]

It's extremely hard to compete as a team of solo players against premade teams with vocal coms. Solo queue in general puts you at a huge disadvantage no matter the game mode, but even more so in ranked.

[patent night]

Yeah dude just.. take a break.

It's not your fault that the game's ranked system is shitty, bur a break here and there is pretty nice man. Maybe you'll even win mors since you're refreshed.

[sullen aspen]

sweeet it looks like the new patched banned linux again.
I'm running linux+gamescope (written by valve iirc for the steamdeck) to be able to launch in wayland and I just got "disallowed tool kicked"

[hollow valve]

Imo there are only two ways to balance things
1 Nerf everything to the ground so you have time to react.
2 Buff everything to overpowered so everyone has a same level ground.

[late nymph]

@dense gulch Ranked spawns are not good right now. There is always a triple stack and one team getting off scott free.

[earnest sierra]

this is too much tbh please fix the respawn system

our cashout and we spawn 100+ meters away? why??

[alpine wren]

Here's a list of bugs I've encountered:

In game :

• The cashbox sometimes drops below the map in certain situations

• When you are revived, the reaction wheel is obsolete for a short time.

Quests:

• The new game mode is not taken into account for the quest "Do 150,000 arena damage with arena items".

• If you move your mouse over the border of a square at the end of a quest page, there's a display bug.

• It's still possible to navigate the menu and hear the sounds, even on the loading screen.

[thorn geyser]

Is there going to be any merch I can buy?

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[keen lily]

this game maybe will be good in 5 seasons if the devs will keep balancing it around casual game modes, no point in playing it until then

[flint ledge]

make it so you can wear some facewear like glasses with the ski mask

[willow leaf]

Just had a guy phase through my goo and the floor and kill me. Awesome! So fun playing this game

[muted wasp]

Clean your pc

[sharp jasper]

Thoughts on the addition of a Weapon Charm -- Ammo Counter

[bitter terrace]

in almost every ranked game i've played in past few days either enemy team members drop or my teammates drop out of the game

[midnight estuary]

pressure makes diamonds... and i love pressure

[violet solstice]

Are u fucking kidding me???? > "The 2 negatives: Cloaking needs addressing. It needs an outline or something. We still cant see it ATALL and it's waaayyyy to overpowered." What the fuck cheapass system are u playing on??? A commodore 64??? Try changing some settings or get a better system/monitor or get some glasses cos a Cloaked light is so easy to see now its like not being cloaked at all...FFS all u ever do is whine about Cloak. No matter how much they nerf it & no matter how visible they make it u just whine & whine & whine that u cant see it & its OP...Its barely worth even using it now because of whiners like u. Go back to minecraft.

[sick schooner]

It’s also loud as hell too

[tulip flume]

Best competitive game out there right now. I have 300+ hours played, rank ~300 right now. Buffs and nerfs have all been great, I feel like Embark has a great eye for balance. I only ever play with a 3 stack though, so I don’t have anything to say about solo queue. That said, my current grievances are:

• My team has 2 crashes/timeouts minimum per 3 hour session
• Please bring back the ranges (or some equivalent) on the vaults when you first spawn in. That first couple seconds is really important, and now there’s no way to tell whether you’re going the right direction at first.
• The ranked system is pretty obscure, but given that most recent post it sounds like you exactly what to do about that.

RE: cheaters, I’m an NA player and I very rarely see anyone cheating blatantly enough for a report. The last few cheaters we did encounter we were able to beat because they had 0 game sense. I think that either the cheating complaints are overblown, or they’re all from other regions where cheating is way more rampant.

[dense lark]

Hey, I did all the missions for the new event and don't have the CNS hoodie. Is there a bug?

[cold bolt]

it wasn't overblown, it was just a bigger presence prior to late s2, so whatever they're doing now is working more

[sullen aspen]

yep, The Finals is 100% broken for linux right now. Every second set of the new mode crashes the game due to "disallowed tool" when I'm running 100% bare minimum to get the game to launch (that is proton, and gamescope). I'm not even going to bother with QM or ranked

[olive vector]

Why does the gas stay WAY to long?!

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[tardy mirage]

Recommendations for the future:

-Please add ability to see all contracts and challenges in game as this will promote queuing and not stopping at the menu 🙂

-Please eventually add more account levels even it its only small rewards! More things to level up means more time in game!

-Keep listening to the positive feedback from the community while continuing to "Exhale" silly/not helpful comments as this really makes me feel like I can put as much money as I want in because the game will not go anywhere 🙂

[wicked ledge]

Can we have 9 loadouts instead of 6 so we can create a loadout for each specialization?

[reef jasper]

having spent some decent game time with the new patch, i gotta say i do like it a lot. Even as a light player, the class could def use a little love in the next patch but i trust embark to get it done

[jagged cedar]

would love a dev to explain why they decided to completely gut the dagger

[willow jewel]

Add a "Random skin" option when selecting skins

[sick schooner]

Amazing idea monkey, hire this man 👏🏽

[whole acorn]

did anything happen to light health? i havent played in a while as a light but im getting lit up so quick im not complaining thoi just wondeirng

[solemn sedge]

I’ve been plat 1 for 2 months, I’ve won like 40 tournaments, top fragged almost every time, and I’m still not diamond. WHY, it doesn’t matter how good I am I’m still plat 1. How does this stupid system even work? If I get to the second round (there’s only 3 now) and I go 10:0, plus we get third place, why do I go down 3 arrows? I don’t even know what to do anymore, I played all day, 5 hours straight and still nothing, no matter how many arrows I go up. I know this is more of a rant than feedback but please listen to me. HOW DO I RANK UP. Apparently winning 5 tournaments in a row doesn’t do it. SO WHAT DOES??

[warm sorrel]

Every character size needs 50+ more hp

[willow leaf]

This game would be better without medium

[near lava]

AS A MEDIUM MAIN MYSELF NERF HEALING BEAM JESUS

[iron flint]

FCAR, AKM (start), M60 & Lewis Gun all need their recoil reworked to actually be learnable. It's almost impossible to perfectly spray these and track at the same time due to their deviation angle's and the inconsistency

[sonic spoke]

Maybe the lowest diamond plays for 6 hours and gets seconds or firsts. If rank is skill based then if you are regularly mixing wins with losses then you are probably at the right rank.

[sudden spire]

I like this idea

[inner acorn]

Thank you for the balance updates thus far.
I would like to add a request, please nerf the ladders. To easy to climp up as we are walking by. ;-;

[indigo thorn]

Idk if it's a new bug but i finished all the challenge for the temporary event and i shouyld have the call gesture and the CNS hoodie and the career says i should but when i look in my contestant style, they aren't there

[proud lantern]

all you guys do is complain and say the most dogshit outrageous takes ever conceived by mankind and every time you guys give your reasoning if at all just screams SKILL ISSUE.. honestly if your parents listened to the things you guys said in here and actually understood them ya’ll would be kicked from the inheritance. whenever i want to feel better about myself i can just come to this channel and just remind myself how 80% of you guys wont ever succeed in real life if this type of thinking translates to you irl. Devs are literally playing aunt limiting what im able to do because my little cousin is 6 and is barely forming a consciousness and i dont blame them one bit because as a business they obviously want to cater to revenue… use your heads and THINK on why you died instead of blaming it on x or y.. yap yap yap i could go on but ik most of you dont even have the attention span or reading comprehension to follow. moral of the story 80% of you guys are braindead and suffer from skill issue and the worst part is y’all dont even know it. Thank you for coming to my ted talk. i love everyone equally ❤️

[vernal steppe]

not sure if someone has already sent this but the design ideas here are incredible and I've had many people say this is spot on what they hope for in the future. Just an idea I want to share! https://youtu.be/k8L4E45rOu0?si=RXF-rVxkEtEF0kJU

[astral dust]

DEMATERIALIZER DOES NOT WORK ON VEGAS

[quick coyote]

You need 14 matches instead of 10 (Visual Bug)

[tawny oriole]

I saw on tiktok that they added report channel , exactly what i ve suggest 2 month ago , finaly they start listen to community and thats why im back to the finals now . Respect to the devs

[stiff wolf]

I came across this video on youtube with around 5k views atm. Everybody go check it out this guy has a lot of great ideas on how we as players can have a more enjoyable and immersive experience whilst playing the finals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8L4E45rOu0 (edit) i just noticed that @vernal steppe also referenced the same video i'm talking about above^^ how wild.

[wintry pawn]

Is it possible to add a toggle old UI mode I don't like the new healthbars and I want the old one

[frosty compass]

Terminal attack definitely should be permanent! My favorite game mode used to be bank it but I haven't really played bank it this season at all Terminal is super fun!

[vernal path]

Indeed

[past moat]

the game feels absolutely terrible after the patch unless you're a heavy main

[peak lark]

bring back akiba step. it's the only thing that made dagger useful and wasn't even good for comp. Why nerf it?

[sly arch]

Add Bank It specific contracts. You have contracts specific to Cash Out and Power Shift, but nothing for Bank It.

[magic cobalt]

faxxx

[reef jasper]

I did not receive the CNS hoodie after completing challenges and resetting the game @true epoch

[queen cloud]

I'm soo sad to see a game with such potential die... All due to the devs listening to casuals players regarding balance.
Everyone just wants it free and easy...

How about just make the game easy to learn but hard to master like most comp games? and ignore all the casual skill issue bs regarding balance (90+% of feedback in here)

Aim and mechanics should matter a lot more. There should be more movement tech like apex. The heavy press W and jump in with rpg+ whatever needs to go, 0 skill. If it's a tank, it shouldn't be able to burst dmg like that and use shields whenever he makes a mistake.

[ionic panther]

terminal attack does not count for daily first win of the day contracts

[slate epoch]

so i don't understand the issue, the fact that casual players have become more of a threat because things are getting more accessible? lol "i can't stomp casual players anymore..." sounds an awful lot like a skill issue to me

[dawn mountain]

Wdym

[plucky marsh]

Quest is bugged. Play 14 total matches (including the 10 u just did for the quest) and then reload the game. It should appear in ur inventory after

[runic crater]

Love the rage bait ❤️

[river grail]

If you clear the key settings in the system menu from Mouse and Keyboard Settings, you will no longer be able to assign the ESC key.
Please improve.

[fresh hill]

9rangel: writes an incoherent, rambling blob of text
also 9rangel: "you dont even have the attention span or reading comprehension to follow"

[willow jewel]

nerf rpg and lewis, coming from someone who uses the rpg on heavy its nuts

[severe wave]

Embark buff the medium handcannon it takes the most skill in the game but its one of the worst guns....

[indigo thorn]

Ngl, the game esthitic is awesome, clothes are dope, guns are great and if you put aside the problems like SBM, the game is awesome!

[unreal bolt]

the recent matchmaking update makes no sense
previously if you made it past round 1 you were already rewarded elo and it made sense since you were already in the better half of the players
now when i get past round 1 and get eliminated in the 2nd round i lose 2 bars of elo so the only way to get any elo is to constantly get to the final round which isnt the easiest while playing with randoms and it just doesnt make sense

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[sonic spoke]

The volume of All headshot no misses has increased substantially in the last week. I love the new mode but it so promotes cheating. Need the hacking/exploiting dealt with big time.

[high jolt]

How come the only Gas Mask that doesnt fit under any hats is the one from the hazmat set? Kind of a bummer not being able to use that gas mask when both of the other ones fit just fine under the hats

[daring fossil]

please fix smokes, you literally can't see the smoke with shadows set to low

[unreal fossil]

I see lots of feedbacks like yours recently, and while I don't doubt any of it, it's very weird, because my experience in ranked has been very different.

I just got promoted to Plat 2, despite losing the final round of my last tourney. In this format or the previous one, winning or losing round 1 would always mean ranking up or down respectively. No matter the outcome in round 2 and beyond.

Since the last patch, most of my lobbies have been evenly matched in terms of ranking: mostly Plat teams, with some Gold/Silver/Diamond players here and there. It was much more stretched out before the patch, while ranking up Gold I frequently had Diamond players or even full Diamond teams in my lobbies.

So I really don't understand how things could apparently work as they should for me, but not for many other players.

[twin stream]

please add a stay as team button at the end of a match. there's times i want to play with the same people again but dont want to add them as friends.

[cerulean echo]

the time to afk kick is slightly too aggressive.

[hasty citrus]

The game should force a L/M/H group in competitive, less defib fights and healing beam fights edit 1 : @willow jewel they could implement a queue role for which class you want to play/ edit 2 : @upper citrus you didnt see what i wrote / edit 3 : @willow jewel They gotta do something about the overwatch 2 gameplay because light can't do their hit and run gimmick anymore and it always feel like trash when you kill an entire team just so they all rez 3s later or the heavy getting pocketed by a healer

[wintry acorn]

why do we still get punished if a teammate leaves in ranked?

[sturdy python]

The option to do cash out ranked or Terminal ranked for the same rewards would be cool

[willow jewel]

remove the sniper from powershift, @hasty citrus horrid idea bluntly, would crank up matchmaking times and forcing people to play shitty classes and forcing people to play specific classes is always a bad idea, @hasty citrus once again, queue times, cranking up alr bad queue times would be terrible for the game @hasty citrus yeah unfortunately no one wants to play light cus they fucking nerfed it so much, once again ruining queue times

[upper citrus]

this would literally kill the game. imagine being forced to play a class you dont want to

[dim sun]

its been a couple days. have you hotfixed the dagger yet? its unplayable

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[sacred isle]

happened three games in a row, all quitted.

[upper spear]

akm yes yes bad 🗿

[haughty smelt]

Currently enemies that kill themselves don't give you the kill, so if you get someone with an explosive weapon down to 1 hp and they kill themselves you won't get that kill which in the grand scheme of things, doesn't really matter, but making it so those situations would still award you the kill would remove a lot of the feeling of being robbed

[odd flax]

this is a joke right ???? playing cashout 17 times in a row always joining midgame and the matchmaking taking so long wtf???? also sometimes stuck on loading screen, after the last update this game getting worse so many bugs, and the healing beam bug still not fixed

[zinc carbon]

Im silver, and i got two other slivers on my team. But every other team was gold ;-;

[civic plover]

Please add a setting to show network latency in game

[willow leaf]

The spawns in this game are atrocious. My team respawned across the map from the final cashout so we literally had no chance to defend are spot at second place and we lost. How is that fair?

[hasty citrus]

Guys they need to put a conquest mode with a 5 vs 5 and the enemy team has to defend some parts of the map and it last like 10-15 minutes. Big chaos across the whole map

[earnest sierra]

some suggestions that no one will think useful but would be pretty useful in the future

FSR 3.1 instead of 2.2 which the finals added in 3 may and XeSS 1.3 please

replay system for kills and a man of the round/match at every round just like overwatch would be perfect for the finals

player stats in their profile to know if he's legit player depending on the accuracy of his shots and headshot rate and all that so it would be much much easier to tell if someone is hacking or not and also way easier for embark to ban players with abnormal stats

bringing back the recon but make high risk high reward ability i suggest it if the player is using recon it restricts him from shooting or using any gadget at all until he turn off recon and make a gadget for light players to use to counter the recon in someway so recon doesn't become the most used ability in the whole game again and all overpowered and at the same time make light more useful because tbh devs killed the whole light class by the recent nerfs to cloaking and stun gun

replacing the vanishbomb or tracking dart with health bomb which heals the light for 50-75 of his health depending on his current health % i see that this would be so decent for light and make them more viable in fighting as it's so hard to backstab in the finals or hit n run with this class the games mostly is 1v1 firing and it will also make light chances to survive much more and he doesn't have to wait 10 secs to fully heal and get back to fight just to get 4 shots from a medium or something then get back to hide to heal again

and please improve the optimization.. i really don't know what have happened the finals optimization was so great at launch and i was able to run it 60fps everything maxed out at 2k naitve dlss DLAA and all great but it really got worse for some reason..please work on that..

otherwise all love to embark devs who's making really great work at running this game, definitely the best fps game released in the last 5 years❤️

[sudden tangle]

Just play a class you want to play?

Find suitable teammates/friends.

Or just queue quick cash with friends?

[upper citrus]

and when you queue with friends and more than one person wants to play a class?

or just... dont force people to queue classes they dont want to...

[quartz dock]

Ranked matchmaking still needs work, plat 3 in a plat 1/2 lobbies with a silver 4 and gold 4 as a teammate 🥴

[keen skiff]

the optimization for this game is getting unnecessarily worse. i shouldn't' t be getting 40 fps even in intense settings now when the game ran a steady 150 fps max settings w/ ray tracing for me at launch. I've tried multiple drivers and it doesn't make it much better. the fps seems to be fine at some moments and then suddenly dies at others

[graceful slate]

if youre in a party with the lower ranks then its normal since the matchmaking goes by the largest rank.

[floral hedge]

Win 10 Rounds not tracking the new game mode rounds?
even matches won in that mode are not counting towards the challenge?

[rustic birch]

Could you guys make FACE paint and BODY paint options? i feel like theres enough to justify a split
(also itd make your customization options look even greater than before ;))

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[willow jewel]

nerf rpg and lewis, fix sword/melee hitreg, find a way to make dash not get ruined by desync, make ranked actually fun and not bs to play, add a random option when selecting skins/outfits, let us create custom outfits, let us customize the randomization button(if added) to choose between select skins/outfits

[acoustic sparrow]

fcar lost its identity,
ranked queue times didnt even change but now i lose points even after winning a round,
heavy is still broken and overtuned has way too much utility for the amount of damage it can put out,

also delete las vegas

[cinder ridge]

left a terminal attack game because there were 5 heavies on the other team. cant play for 10 minutes. thats cool

[sharp jasper]

I agree with all of this except for Vegas, Sandstorm Vegas is peak

[unborn rose]

fix the cheaters

[crisp heart]

Pls add a hud safezone

[nimble valve]

40k XP per level on page 2 of the bonus battle pass rewards is insane. Please make it 24k like it was on the first page 😭🙏

[upper citrus]

Once rpg, Lewis, and lh1 are nerfed the game will finally have a much healthier meta and we can start buffing the weak items

[fierce valve]

I'd like to see certain "Head" cosmetics and "face" cosmetics stack ontop of eachother, like Descartes Demon and a bandana or something

[keen skiff]

update: in the past 30 minutes I have died multiple times due to freeze frames (some even for 5 seconds and more) and generally low fps. even standing idle at spawn it averages 45-ish fps. the game is actually unplayable and idk why. does anyone have any nvidia driver reccomendations that you know work well for this game? trying all options rn

[floral hedge]

are you reporting that a good feature is working correctly?
🤡

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[cinder ridge]

i shouldnt be penalized for leaving an unwinnable and extremely unfun game

[hasty citrus]

we got the joke stop spamming, youre not funny anymore

[odd flax]

this is a joke right ???? playing cashout 17 times in a row always joining midgame and the matchmaking taking so long, and respawn near enemy cashout wtf???? also sometimes stuck on loading screen, after the last update this game getting worse so many bugs, and the healing beam bug still not fixed

[wheat nova]

1. didn't get the final terminal attack reward but I'm guessing they know that already

2. fcar still is good, anyone saying it's not might need to get their skill checked

3. glad to see invis/stun gun lights are now limited to those few light mains who refuse to adapt to a new playstyle

concludes my report 👍🏽

[cloud jungle]

BRING BACK SLIDING WHEN MELEEING

Melee didn't need nerfs, now you can't close distance AT ALL mid-swing

[young drum]

why does the rpg still hit for 140. so skilless. pls drop the damage to 50 so it can be used as utility

[restive crescent]

why getting banned for game crashing in a pre made team? i needed to restart my hole f pc to get in the game again, not to mention the time the game takes to even open "waiting game" in anti cheat stage. my team is still in the play as i say this, its ridiculous why i cant get back, raise the time you have to reconect to a game, or fix all crashes

[west geyser]

same thing happened to friend of mine in final round

game crashed, and after attept to join us, gets banned and we played 2v3

[flat solstice]

Ive gotten stuck in goo whether in cashout or power shift game modes and its particularly annoying. Can this be resolved?

[quartz dock]

Solo queue. I shouldn’t be paired up with such low ranks lol

[raw bay]

Why do I rank down when I make it past the first round even tho there are three rounds now

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[floral prairie]

Idea:
Give lights defib instead of medium to give light a chance at being useful.
Nerf the turret and medium as a whole.
Rebuff cloaking device and stun gun.

[buoyant ore]

I think need to strengthen Light's ability to move. Dash and grapple need buff

[sick schooner]

As invis main I would love the invis change to be reverted how it was before the last nerf but I also wouldn’t mind a dash buff lol

[rose snow]

Anyones counter stop counting on their contracts. For the structural damage to arena specifically

[quaint badger]

i think my accounts bugged, when i lose games i dont lose rank on the leaderboard and sometimes i go up 2 even tho we get out first round, im diamond so this makes no sense

[empty arch]

For real , I am really missing the season 1 music ... I know season 2 music is good too , but the season 1 had some awesome gameshow vibe ... please bring it back in season 3 😁

[shy swan]

SUGGESTION:

• nerf heals and give heavy smoke grenades. also let thermal vision show team colors. and make power shift platform not move when your contesting the point. buff the glitch mine.

IDEAS not suggestions:

• specialization or gadget that randomizes loadout (or the gadget?) slot on use
• healing bomb for light? or healing device or drone? stationary or mobile?
• semtex? light only? (timed sticky grenade)(smaller radius?)

[obtuse yoke]

The stun gun is pointless now why THE FUCK would you remove the whole point of a gadget you can now ads when stunned meaning the only thing that stun gun does slow you down, what's the point of that, you literally have access to every other ability you have. AND WHY THE FUCK HASNT THE SNIPER BEEN NERFED. ITS HITSCAN VIRTUALLY NO DAMAGE DROP OFF BECAUSE IT JUST DOESNT MAKE A DIFFERENCE ITS STILL THE SAME AMOUNT OF SHOTS TO KILL ANY CLASS WHY IS IT NEEDED IT TAKES NO SKILL TO USE AND ANYONE THAT USES IT IS BRAINDEAD

[floral prairie]

Can we get a reworked respawn system. I hate dying and having to wait 20 seconds or when team is wiped it going from 2 seconds up to 30 please EMBARK 5 to 15 second respawn timer 15 second being maximum.

[sick schooner]

Love this suggestion about the heal bomb that would be so nice

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[earnest sierra]

i just found this post on reddit talking about some kind of "healing bomb" for light that heal light

as the guy in the post suggests it heals 100hp i would say that's a little too much and unfair and would go with 50-75 depending on percentage of current health..

maybe it could be an ospuze juice or a healing bomb for throwing but if it's a bomb it would have to aoe heal team mates too incase it was casted on another team member but if it's an ospuze juice it would be only self healing which i see would be more fair as for competitive playing and for light playstyle and heals 50-75 depending on health percentage

hope i see this suggestion one day in the finals♥️

[timber hazel]

can we get some love for the CL-40? It'd be super helpful if there was, like, an arc when we aim down sights that shows exactly where the grenade will land, just like with throwing grenades. This will make it easier to learn the projective while boosting the combat viability of the CL in long range fight.

Also
Riot shield is the weakest melee in the game
Because medium doesn’t have a reliable way to close the distance like sword dash and goo hammer does.
Please buff the riot shield

While we at it Please revert the fix on sledge hammer that allow him to slide after a heavy swing
Hammer doesn’t need a nerf
Since on top of being the slowest class, he also have a giant hit box
Which make him the second worst melee in the game tie with light dagger

Lastly, I’m a medium main but I feel for light player.
Please buff their dash or grapple to make up for it
Also I think just the stun allowing people to aim down sight is more than enough, people shouldn’t be able to use specialization while they’re stun.

[mystic nebula]

I’ve been struggling with this. It seems to work in some matches and not at all in others. Esp power shift seems bugged.

[brave copper]

With the new modes and their varying metas, its would be a great time for a few more contestant slots.

[real moon]

buff throwing knvies, rework the cl 40 as rn it's just anti light and anti melee

[steady flame]

is anyone not getting the final reward from the termail attack quest me and my bf finished them last night and the reward was not in

[lapis oriole]

Maybe Embark should get rid of basic looking skins and leave them for camo farmers; implementing universal camouflages for every weapon just like Modern Warfare. Each weapon/gadget could have unique and challenging objectives, encouraging players to spend hours and hours of farming camouflages:

• Consisting in at least 10 unique camos for every weapon/gadget, with tiers and rarity
• Rare/common skins should be revamped and refunded¹ and some epic skins should be refunded and reintroduced², those mentioned should be universal camouflages for obvious reasons
• Some skin series should be universal³ but for the design and quality of the mentioned, the pricing is good
• If this model continues, will damage the variety and accessibility for skins in long terms⁴ and the loss of a reliable way to retain players
• Legendary skins remains the same

¹Fractal Disguise (and those skins worth 100-150 multibucks)
²Boreal Blink, Techno Honeycomb, Catacomb Party and Vandal's Edge
³Never Evanesce, Bed Of Roses, Marble Majesty, and more (this includes some skins from BP)
⁴This implies the restrictive model of 3-series skins, in which some players may like the skin, but not the weapons

Universal skins do not disrupt the economy when there's a solid ecosystem of legendary and epic skins with unique animations. Therefore, there's nothing to envy about solid/military/pattern/exotic-based camouflages that could be used universally across weapons/gadgets

(Not fully complete or accurate feedback since most skin series of 3 are somewhat simple or that's just subjective In some cases)

Diamond/platinum/gold and sponsored weapon skins are also part of the problem⁴ but that's for another monolog and approach

[versed bridge]

Seoul as a power shift map is quite unbalanced, it heavily favours the team who spawns at the large building with multiple floors and a diagonal roof
That building has a bunch of built in terraces and ledges to stand on which allows for a large amount of siege power

I've never seen any team push the platform past that one building for this reason
It doesn't matter how many times the other team gets wiped, they can easily just fight and win a battle of attrition from varying points of high ground as there is little to no cover for the platform moving through

At this point in progress on the other side, the platform is destroying the roof of the spawn building of the other team and there's very little space that works as high ground, as well as the destroyed building providing ample cover at times

[still crater]

Invasive dash is too powerful. It has no cool down and you can dash twice allowing you to avoid too many shots.

[unreal fossil]

Why not make the CL40 grenades heat-seeking ? This would make its use even simpler. Just aim in the general direction of the enemy, and it will hit. Oh wait, that's already pretty much what it does right now...

It's an AoE weapon that can be constantly spammed while requiring the least amount of aiming skill. It can already erase Lights in two hits with way too much ease.

Unless you want to see full lobbies of CL40 bunny hoppers making everyone's lives miserable, buffing it in any way, shape or form is a terrible idea. This would definitely bury Lights as a playable class. Let's keep it a troll gun for casual games...

@still crater Light class has already been hit by several major nerfs, do you also want their next best spec to get nerfed ? Way to really make the class unplayable.

[shy swan]

SUGGESTION:

• nerf heals and give heavy smoke grenades. also let thermal vision show team colors. and make power shift platform not move when your contesting the point. buff the glitch mine.

IDEAS not suggestions:

• specialization or gadget that randomizes loadout (or the gadget?) slot on use
• healing bomb for light? or healing device or drone? stationary or mobile?
• semtex? light only? (timed sticky grenade)(smaller radius?)

[ember marsh]

Remove all melee weapons

[empty arch]

Bruh u for real ?

[cerulean matrix]

Pls Bring Back goo gun flying

[rose condor]

Just had my first crash since the update

[quick coyote]

Silver through Diamond again in a tourney. with more players playing than there were pre update. gg embark lol

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[timber hazel]

gimmick weapon shouldn’t be s throw pick that can only play casual. Cause if that’s the case, why not just keep light nerf. You can still play it in casual. Instead every weapon should be viable so that people can play whatever they want to play. Just like how light should get some buff and become more viable in rank. Spam??? SPAMM with Cl-40? Dude. Do you see how many people ask for cl-40 to get 1 or 2 shot in the mag? Guess why. It’s because the biggest thing holding this gun back is the lack of sustain. Even the tactical reload of this gun is extremely long when you consider it only give you an extra bullet. So what’s so wrong with me asking to make this gun more beginner friendly by making it easier to learn projectile. If you hate the cl-40 that much, here’s a tip you can use even as a light. Don’t engage in close combat, take the high ground so that they are forced to hit a body shot, bait out the 4 shot before you start standing still and shoot. Forget an APS or mesh, even a dome shield render the Cl-40 borderline useless cause guess what. THE LACK OF SUSTAINNN

Also seriously? Heat seeking? Brother, don’t compare my request to something so busted when you know it’s not. Literally, all I’m asking is just way to learn the projectile easier, not aim bot.

[obtuse yoke]

Anyone who uses snipers should rethink what their doing with their lives and maybe kill themselves

[floral prairie]

Idea:
Team death match. Would love to win by getting eliminations rather than claiming a platform at the last 2 seconds or a cash out

[hasty citrus]

just remove light, it's dead

[abstract rose]

Nerf light 👍

[sour crescent]

i thought tuxedo's arc idea was pretty good, especially since irl grenade launchers have a ladder sight to compensate for the slow moving projectile, they could also just make the ads use the ladder sights but imo the game is too fast paced for that

[warm crown]

Nerfing fcar just makes the shotgun the only good gun on medium making u basically useless if u don’t use one

[floral hedge]

game needs to display ping in leaderboard

[versed cloud]

Spicy take

[coarse ivy]

remove sniper from terminal attack

[rain drum]

Hi embark, can you do everyone a favor and only allow people to have one mine and Nerf the damage for mines. because I just played your new search destroy game mode and there were three mediums and they double stacked gas and explosive mines and they were absolutely terrible,. you shouldn’t get so much damage out of something that takes absolutely no skill.

[cerulean matrix]

Huh?

[celest tree]

add xp bonus for finishing all daily contracts.

[timber hazel]

Sniper doesn’t need to be nerf in power shift. People just need to bring barricade or goo grenade or use the pink canister randomly found in game. It’s this or the dev can just give the platform some more cover either by having something like a barricade at the middle or on the edge.
And maybe the barricade on the edge should be able to be move around the platform similar to how we can move the direction of the cane

Another idea is just to make a pink canister always spawn on the platform after 50 second

Speaking of power shift, please please don’t allow spawn to be behind the platform

Like whenever a team is spawn behind a plat form and need to chase it
I notice they always lost.

[twilit condor]

Requesting revives should make a sound cue. All it does is just flash a few times and most players don't notice that.

[drowsy stump]

Medium recoil needs to be more fair other than famas. Lights can dump a mag from across map but every other gun is unable to do this gotta keep fighting recoil.

[hidden mason]

Please fix voice chat on Xbox series x. It’s been months now without it working. It’s impossible to play ranked like this.

[cinder fable]

nerf rpg and lewis

[glad delta]

can we have a direct counter to sniper? also can we make the grenade throw over the banisters? a lot of them are like eye level instead of just below

[tired girder]

Why was the slide mechanic changed. It's ruined movement. I can't place a jump pad and then slide into it any more. Can't slide while using healing beam. Can't slide after melees Can't slide immediately after being revived. Can't slide while defib. It's completely changes the feel of movement and I feel like it's a bug or a mechanic you tried to change for another purpose with the oversight of how it would affect so many other aspects of movement. Many times I go to slide around a corner and end up dying because it just results in me crouch walking instead. This had never been an issue before. The game now feels very clunky to me.

[graceful slate]

True but that’s how the cookie crumbles, matchmaking is bound to be pretty unfair when the playbase isn’t that large.

[crystal cave]

When did they make this change

[flint panther]

sbmm make your kd close to 1 but it is not fun

[inland plume]

I never tilted on this game even if its ranked or casual, but today, it felt horrible and unfair when you get matched up to a premade team of two Diamonds and a Plat against a solo 3 Gold team. They literally stoled every single Cashout from just one game, INCLUDING the 2nd placer. Its like they are making fun of us the whole game. Wanted to post a screenshot of the match leaderboard post match for proof but this sub doesnt allow it so too bad. Hard stuck at Gold 1 btw, playing at Asia server.

[floral prairie]

Snipers need nerfing. Especially in power shift. All they do is sit back and click a button every few seconds either stealing my kills or killing me. It takes zero skill to use a sniper and is boring to play. Look I don’t play heavy which means I can’t place a barricade. Also I’m not just getting sniped on platform + you can get sniped at random times and it’s almost impossible to predict

[ebon tendon]

@fluid laurel #⚡┇the-finals-chat

[timber hazel]

Oh how mean. And I’m just trying to make a game a better experience for everyone :,3

Anyway no. Not a sniper main
A Healing medium shotgun main currently diamond 3.

Yeah, when the power shift first come out. I was one of the first people to realize how busted a sniper can be and abuse that knowledge for like half a week. But nowaday if I play light in power shift, I just play throwing knife.

Pissing off people and having them tea bag me after I got kill just doesn’t sit well with me. It’s like, you know, i don’t really mind using off meta weapon if it mean everyone can have a more fun game :3

“Many people say sniper doesn’t have a place in this game”
Immediately this remind me of tf2 sniper
Where normally he just a mediocre class that get pick here and there but in the right hand, he just become oppressive

So that’s why I figure the same solution could work here.
When it come to sniper in a game where combat is usually in a close range fight

It all come down to map design

For our game, the placement of cash out and powershift platform

For what it’s worth, I think sniper is pretty balance in normal cash out mode.
Some cash out are more open than other and some are in door but with a proper set up
You can also create some good sight line for sniper

However i don’t think this make the sniper overpower since the enemy, can also equally create wall in the form of mesh shield, smoke grenade, goo grenade, body block l barricade on the cash out.
Plus since sniper trade out his close range viability, I think it’s only fair that he has an advantage in long range fight

Anyway back to our favorite casual game mode
Power shift

Map design in power shift is difficult cause the the platform move all over the map and sometime it even dip to the low ground for no good reason. (Make sense, attacker always come 1 by 1 instead of attacking in wave which is why dev make it a bit easier to attack)

Anyway, since redesigning a map probably take too much effort
And changing the path of the platform won’t do us any good
Thus I suggest that there be some natural cover on the platform

Or just have a goo canister spawn every so often

Cause I get it, we can bring heavy mesh shield. But who want to hold down a shield for 6 min.

@floral prairie
When I try hard in platform as medium
I use goo grenade. And APS.

I’m not saying your argument is invalid btw. I’m just telling you what you can do while the rework to sniper or the map is yet to come.

For me I think sniper spot can be predicted. That or But that might just come from my unhealthy long hour of this game.

So yeah if that’s your argument for nerfing the sniper. Map design won’t help much so I guess another solution to the sniper balance you might be looking for

Is to make the sniper have s red line that become more traceable when he start aiming down sight

That or I guess we really need to have a charge up machanic like sniper tf2

@fluid laurel
Hii :3

[coarse junco]

If you guys do not fix the damn sword melee lunge not registering im literally gonna go insane its been forever and no fix FIX THIS BS BRO I AM LOSING MATCHES/TOURNAMENT'S CAUSE OF THIS B

[rain ocean]

Game balance is in a really good state currently and I genuinely enjoy every mode but please for the love of god get rid of either cashout or quick cash, the queue times are unbearable sometimes when I wanna play for quick cash. I spent like 10 minutes in queue last night before getting a game for quick cash. I'd honestly rather cashout goes away, it doesn't feel arcade-y enough to be a warmup mode for ranked.

Also the melee rework feels weird, I feel like I'm missing more normal (not sword/dagger/hammer) melees than usual, even when I'm right in their face

[versed bridge]

Don't step on the mines :)

They flash and make sound
It's not too hard to notice them
You don't even need to actively look for them

Just be more aware of potential points where people may place mines

[tame nimbus]

I've done all challenges for for terminal attack but I haven't received the last reward yet?

[rain drum]

it’s really hard when there’s eight or more mines in a building. I shouldn’t have to look at my feet all the time.

[unborn rose]

get rid of the cheaters and get rid of the sniper, having both of them in one game is the worst

[warm crown]

I think quick cash is a good mode they should bring back unranked tournaments

[vestal coral]

Yes it's very true all those who cry about nerfs are meta abusers, people with no skills, if you take away their favorite toy they cry. And the thing that makes me laugh is that they are the first to tell others about problems with talent and noobs. When they are the ones who cry about the nerf without skills.

[obtuse yoke]

Bro looks like this: 🤓🤓🤓

[empty arch]

i really want the season 1 BGMs back TwT ... they were so good , season 2 is also good , but aint got the gameSHOW vibe

[river sleet]

Hi Devs.
May I suggest some small add-ons for the game.

• Implement an easier way to calculate KD something like = 2.1 KD for those who watch KD more than anything.

• Add win/loss % please.

• In some ways, I get "benefits" as playing support example I have games that I do 1/15/3 basically I'm just losing KD and don't get any "Reward" for being supportive.

• Implement for support role players an "Assists" score that shows that your good supportive role

• Implement Total Combat, Assists, and Objective scores for people that need to see your "Combat Effensivy"/"Support capabilities" etc

• Ability to see other players' stats

• When quin to Ranked cable possibility select your role
  -L , M, H
  -Combat ,Support ,Healer
  Ranks that you want to play with

and would possible to see who qued with what setups they running for faster queries who don't care about setups

Thank you for the great game and hopefully this helps @DevTeam

Ps. If community like this post +1 to Devs would see it better

[honest harness]

Revert everything to season 1 start. Back than there was almost no flaming or crying and the game was pure fun.
Since the last (idk) 2 updates the reputation of this game got worse and worse. It's a shame. This game has so much potential. I loved playing it but tbh now it feels like work. This might be a bit harsh but... That's the way it is right now - at least for me.

[solemn sedge]

I just played for 12 FUCKING hours straight and I’m still plat 1, I don’t know if I should start crying or throwing things. H E L P M E I M L O O S I N G I T

[keen lily]

dude I'm plat 2 for a month, jumped into plat 1 only for one game lol. I even had a streak of 10 finals in a row with 3 of them won in a row and this is not enough apparently. ranked just does not work at plat 2/plat 1 and there is no point in solo queueing behind this point

[celest tree]

terminal attack wins don't count toward "first win of the day" challenge

[deft valve]

Why does Embark now require 40K xp for ranking up each of the last levels of the battle pass 💀 I mean, this needs mad farming for it and the season is like a month and a half from ending 💀👀

[cerulean echo]

wht if the in game store / skins set up were persistent throughout intermiisions inbetween knockout rounds. would be cool but dnt knw if possible

[desert blaze]

Can the pets make noise if we win a cash out or get a team wipe. Please Ten bucks for the robot and he just and at me with his small Lego hands

[sharp jasper]

It's bonus, get ur xp up

[willow jewel]

takes like 10 matches for 1 level, @river plover it just feels so slow, also circuit/challenges only get you to around 80~ by completing them regularly, 150 matches this season and im around bp lvl 83

[pseudo latch]

What I wanna know is why medium nerfs get to come with compensation. The FCAR nerf came with a considerable buff and a reversion of an old nerf. Whenever light or Heavy get nerfed, it’s a nerf, plain and simple. I don’t call favouritism without a pretty ample showing from the balance team that they don’t want medium to stop being as good as it is.

[river plover]

Finally a reason to grind a bit? Nice! Good on them for adding it later as a bonus so people cant complain about "forcing people to play" because they arent losing anything compared to whrn they originally bought it. 40k doesnt seem like that much if you spend any thought on the challenges

[deft valve]

Yeah, the added pages give some pretty cool skins. Done the challenges already. I gues I have to try out tournaments 🙈. I saw Ottr on a livestream getting like 120K xp from winning one tournament so, I guess they give you more xp than the 1200 you get after a powershift game 💀👀

[keen beacon]

Okay. Ranked still isn't perfect. Here's my (diamond) experience:

1. Get to round 3 or win a tournament. Gain 3 arrows.
2. Sometimes lose in round 1, then lose it all. If you only got to round 3, you lost more than you gained.
3. Repeat.

This is physically and mentally unsustainable. You need to create more factors in order to actually make the current system work. I don't think there's a single human out there that can actually tank the amount lost from losing a couple games. I've already lost around ~400 - 500 positions because of this.

Edit. Just played again!
I made it to round 2, lost, then went down one arrow. Excuse me?
I was rank 2800. With the new system. I am now rank 4091.

Other than that, everything is alright. You guys did a good job with this one.

[jagged crane]

rank system is still broken and ridiculous. i've been only duoing with my friend and yet he's gained 4 ranks ahead of me. i started at gold 3 while he started at gold 4. he is now plat 2 while i'm stuck at gold 1. why is he gaining points when i'm losing them? honestly such an unforgiving system that makes zero sense. literally zero incentive to even play this game anymore. thank you for nerfing light though. no wonder the playerbase is dying.

[spark shard]

100% agree, they need to consider more factors for the ranked, losing so many many many matches at the first round in a row (at least for solo players like me - plat 2/3 -, if you have a friends and good team, different story, you have more chances) is mentally frustrating, considering not play anymore until this situation changes at some point.

[vast bear]

WE NEED A GIGACHAD SKIN BUNDLE

[plucky elk]

Please keep Terminal Attack and add it as a ranked mode.

[midnight oxide]

Hey embark ranked is so so much better now thank you for the fix 🙏🏻 . Also terminal attack is very fun and if the numbers are with it definitely consider keeping it as a permanent mode.

[slate epoch]

maybe they should put the FCAR back... it sounds like the people mad about the lower damage need all the help they can get >_< poor things...

[keen lily]

What are you smoking ranked is terrible

[keen beacon]

This is me, a week before the update (4/30/24): https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087147257708679218/1235118895334035486/image.png?ex=66387b9c&is=66372a1c&hm=bd049edadf2f304f543e36b65238eb1cf6317e3bf861470a92e061afac555973&

This is me, post-update (5/5/24): https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087147257708679218/1236595094023438406/image.png?ex=6638946d&is=663742ed&hm=7908c9d7d8007d87ac7a26a36c05da02c446e95a66c619f97a10fcb728987730&

(This post is an addon to #👂┇game-feedback message)

Do I even to say how many positions I lost? This is unplayable. It's frustrating. Everyone I talk with hates this. Not because of the players, but because of how the ELO scales in comparison.

I have lost SO MUCH rating. It's unfathomable (mainly due to third partying). I get severe punishment for getting knocked out first round, DESPITE my performance, and my team's performance. If cash and placement is the only thing that matters, this is cooked. That is NOT a good way of doing it.

Imagine putting all your effort, just for the game to be like "Oh. You wiped all three other teams multiple times. You stole multiple times. You have revives, dropped 30 kills, and even have 0 deaths. Your objective score is also really, really high. However, you're in fourth place. 3 arrows down for you."

That has CONSISTENTLY been happening to me, and it's not fun. It doesn't push me or motivate me to play competitive anymore. In fact, it does the opposite.

So while (most of) the changes you have made thus far are really good, when it comes to ranked, it stinks. It sucks. It's pretty bad. A lot of people already agree with me on this one. A revert would be better, but not by much.

Until this is fixed, I'm probably going to avoid playing tournaments. There's no point in playing when I can barely even move one spot on the leaderboard. I can't even get back, or even close to my original spot.

P.S. I know I'm still Diamond, but I am DISTRAUGHT. 2000+ positions. Gone. Just like that. Everything that I worked so hard for in the last month or two, just completely set back.

[strong vessel]

Pretty sure that he got that much only because he was playing on a new account and got some challenges done. I dont think tournaments are that much better for xp.

[night surge]

yikes

[vestal coral]

it's so disgusting this game is full of cheaters and sbmm ridiculous, we're an all gold team against all the other platinum teams. Well done embark, you are throwing a potential masterpiece down the toilet.

[worn horizon]

iam light main and the stungun nerf was very hard, its still useful dont get me wrong but i would like to see a small buff. add 5 damage to it, just like tracking dart, it helps to reduce the TTK for some weapons by 1 bullet, which is a decent buff but not annoing for the enemies. also you get assist for stunning them while your teammates finish them

[rain hollow]

They should add a buff where stun either disables specialization or gadgets, but not both, and also not neither.

[rain axle]

I finished the new game mode circuit reward but in my locker I don’t have the cns jacket😤‼️I’m so mad because I grinded for that. I’ve tried to close app a multitude of times and it still hasn’t worked.

[hollow badger]

nerf charge n slam

[dapper meteor]

So how about those massive lag spike? Playing on EU servers and it's almost unplayable

[shy swan]

nerf heals and give heavy smoke grenades. also let thermal vision show team colors. and make power shift platform not move when your contesting the point. buff the glitch mine

IDEAS:

• specialization or gadget that randomizes loadout (or the gadget?) slot on use
• healing bomb for light
• semtex? light only? (timed sticky grenade)

[signal basin]

Oh and again. Read my name.

[ionic spade]

Im really eh about syshorizen and las vegas. I really hope we get back to some of the first maps like seoul and manaco. i think part of it is that both las vegas and sys is very big. and las vegas being very confuseing layout. I really think sys was better since i could easier find my way around the map. but the big open gaps and both maps is so deiffent then any of the older maps

I think the sandstorm mode is the only version I want to play, since it has more ways to get around. the sides feels better since thereisnt a lot going on. simple is key with sandstorm and is a fun take on the las vegas. the sounds and light ofc very vegasesk but just makes me want to play anything else.

Sys it doest strike me with any of the map types being any thing really. is either day or night, i like that it make it easier to get in tocth with and between the 2 i think sys is the better. i really dig the artstyle ofc not every one is .

i have a lot of buddys that loss so many frames on both. persoanly i cant feel it that much but i can see if other people have a harder time running the map is not fun.

I really think seoul and monaco is the best way of playing the game. they have open areas that are blocked but feels very easy to navigate. they are big but not to are point that makes it hard to get back on track after a fight.

both have a big tale on where you are on the map the spire and the cruch works very well like a compass to me.

Both have version that changes up the maps like platform or the contusions/chruch ruins.

I hope we can get back to the older style of maps.

[vestal coral]

could you put an option so that when you aim the icons in the hud disappear? Such as goal icon. So as to make the aiming view clearer.

A suggestion for a new mode, what do you think about putting a conquest mode similar to Battlefield in the future? But not with gigantic maps but existing maps are already fine.

[frail prawn]

Same for me, good performance, bad position => 3 arrows down

I also have gotten 1 arrow down on the final round, we lost final round and I personally was just protecting the cash all the other rounds, didnt get much combat score or objective cuz I was protecting and never got stolen, the thing is... why if I managed to reach the final round, even if I was using a more defensive strategy, why is also my rank down???

Basically you get rank down even if you get a good performance but lost at the firs round but you also get rank down if managed to get into the last round but with not that good performance, the issue is, now I need to constantly get kills or score points somehow, which completely destroys the point of the game that is the cash box, cuz as I said, I have won some tournaments basically preventing people to enter the cash while my team kills them, that works very good but now its useless cuz even if my strategy is good, it doesn't matter cuz winning the rounds its not important, neither is having a good performance, you apparently need to do both, it doesn't matter if you are the best of the match with an ugly team that did nothing and it also doesn't matter if you are good enough to always win tournaments if you was not getting good score points

[tall wave]

add performance mode on console we want more frames !

[pastel turret]

try https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1218156215008235613

[green epoch]

Petition to add text chat 💯

[dull fulcrum]

yes 💯 sometimes i have so many nice things to say to ppl that don t connect to voice chat 😭 pls add

[chilly plinth]

I couldn't agree more. Since the update, the ranked system is broken, they removed one round but they probably didn't remove the punishment down arrow for getting knocked out round 2 although it's very hard to qualified even a single round. The most infuriating part of all is that in the article "Ranked Leagues in THE FINALS" they said specifically :** "Skill ratings and league systems are nearly impossible to change in the middle of a season. Drastic changes now would mean sudden and massive changes in match quality, sudden rating changes, and so on. This would end up feeling broken, confusing, and unfair"** but brother with one single change update you already made massive change in ranked 💀 at this time i'm pretty sure they are not even aware.

[signal basin]

Remove this event

[worn horizon]

i hate it so much its not fun and just slows down the game

[limpid lava]

Despite being a medium main I agree with some people that defib feels a little broken sometimes... but I know a nerf could hit way too hard.

One idea I had yesterday was for players who have just been defib'd to come back with all their gadgets on cooldown.

[tropic egret]

If anyone doesn't know yet the circuit reward for the event and emote says 10 wins but it's 14! so play a couple more rounds and you get it!!

[golden rock]

Yeah but this change doesn't impact skill ratings and league system. What the specifically meant was that if they changed how points are calculated now and how they place people it would mean that you would have all league in the same pools depending mostly on how well people played during placements not how much they played overall and the visual missmatch between leagues would be annoying for one side or the other if not both.

The change to rankeds they made was intended to lower queue times and the only change it made to gaining ranks is, you don't get the chance to get even more points in the final, the first three rounds basically only lost one spot for positive points which isn't a lot for faster queuing

[hidden edge]

As a light main with dash I really don't mind low gravity.
But hell playing a heavy and accidentally launching in the air blows lol.
I don't want it gone, I like the chaos.

[merry creek]

PLEASE MAKE CONSOLE VIABLE AGAIN!! Can't turn crossplay off and play ranked

[hollow breach]

Balance changes wish list season 3:

Add the second C4 charge back to Heavy class. Carriable nuke meta is gone so please bring back C4 2 charges.

Give the following items an internal cooldown (An internal cooldown prevents specializations and gadgets from being spammed whenever)

Mesh shield 5 second cooldown after putting down the mesh shield. Revert some of the mesh shield nerfs. Revert some of the Mesh shield nerfs. The problem with mesh shield big health was not because it had a lot of health but that you are able to pull the shield out whenever you felt like it making it feel oppressive and unfair to play against with such high health and no cooldown between each use.

Cloak honestly needs a buff. Give it a 3-5 second cooldown when you take DMG while in your cloak making it so you're unable to re-cloak back every time and please revert the duration and consumption rate of cloak.

APS turret and Sentry turret. I am honestly surprised they don't have this in the first place. Why you're able to place down one of these turrets and the cooldown already starts so you are able to place another one right after the previous one is destroyed. It's very oppressive to play against. Make it so that cooldown starts after it's destroyed! It also promotes picking up the turrets rather than just spamming it whenever.

Give Data Reshaper 2 charges and put a 3-5 cooldown between each use to prevent Mediums from deleting everything on the map.

Heat Vision should display hazardous elements such as fire and poison etc.

Glitch grenade still feels niche against Mediums. I propose that glitch grenades destroy APS and Sentry turrets and remove mines without triggering the effects (fire, poison, explosion, glitch, etc.), increase glitch grenade duration to 7-8 seconds

Glitch trap needs a major buff!!! Increase duration of glitch effect to 15 seconds. Give an indicator whenever somebody has stepped on your mine. I've tried it out and you can't tell if somebody stepped over your glitch trap because it deals no DMG so it doesn't have a hit indicator on your crosshair. It also deals 50 DMG now

Increase smoke grenade duration and radius

Defibrillator revive animation should start when WITHIN revive range of the statue. This change makes Mediums more vulnerable during revive. I still think it's ridiculous a medium can fall out of the sky and instant revive their ally and disappear again.

Defibrillator optional increase the revive duration as if you were reviving by hand.

Fire (Pyro grenade) should prevent healing or reduce healing of healing beams so it works kind of like a caustic effect

Give tracking dart 1 more charge and give it to mediums.

Increase sonar grenade duration

Give stun gun the ability to disable gadgets and specializations

Remove flashbang from blinding allies because there's no warning or indicator to tell your teammates that you've thrown the flashbang it also give you a falls hit mark indicator when it blinds your allies making it a confusing gadget to use.

Increase flashbang duration

Give breach charge a second charge or lowers its cooldown or be able to detonate it faster

Increase 93R DMG slightly and headshot dmg too

Give grenades and similar items a WARNING like a indicator something like waygate. It makes no noise or any warning of it being thrown. it's deadly. Same goes for gas grenade, pyro, flashbang, etc.

Give motion sensor 3 charges, bigger radius and it should only make noise when someone walks in its radius instead of constantly making noise. So basically it's ''offline'' until someone is in it's radius and then it goes ''online'' and starts the signaling and sound effect. This makes it a more stealthy / surprise element. Same could be applied to sonar grenade

Increase gravity cube duration, radius and health. After it has ended it does a gravitational pull to the ground and enemies being pulled down take some DMG. This encourages to destroy the gadget more

Give grapple hook two charges

[teal minnow]

Thats the meaning of the event??? To slow down a game ¿

[signal basin]

Lol just stop with nuke meta. It's a FPS , not Bomberman.

[dry herald]

this is kinda based ngl

[clever hawk]

I wonder what % of messages in here ever get read by Embark. Such a shit way to give feedback; a mass-spammed channel with minimal moderation. That it’s the only way is abysmal.

No way to know what Embark is thinking about a specific subject, no way to have a discussion about it, no way to influence balancing.

An official presence on the Reddit and designated discussion threads would be so, so much better.

[dull fulcrum]

Just wait till u get to the part were u find out that report tickets actual dont do anything 🤣

[royal gust]

Why do I get 1 tick up whilst finishing in the finals in ranked in PLAT 1? I just don't get why you guys picked this system where u only really rank up when u place 1st? Why did they destroy ranked with 1 tick ups when ur 2nd? Maybe if ur dia1 and u get 2nd i'd get 1 tick up i guess but not in plat. For the love of god is there a dev that knows of this issue? The Finals really destroyed ranked for me like this. It's impossible to rank up. If i get 2nd I even derank on the leaderboard. Shits crazy

[worn ravine]

I didnt get final event reward even tho game says i have it
i cant find it in my locker
has anybody had similiar problem?

[covert nest]

The game has some very swaying matchmaking which is really bad.
One match I do really shit, then Im matchmaked with much worse players and I go ballistic not even dying once, then I get placed with much better players but then I get wrecked, and so it repeats.
This gets very annoying and its very noticeable

[unreal widget]

chat needs to be implemented ASAP because solo queue is literally dead, how can i communicate with my team if they are not connected to vc

[chilly plinth]

I understand your point but "this change doesn't impact skill ratings and league system" I'm sorry but I'm pretty sure it is. The guy I replied to lost 2000 position in leaderboard, okey he can loose because he played bad, not all games are good but i've seen a lot of people struggle too since the update. Like seriously, yesterday someone said he got an arrow down for WINNING a tournament 💀. If your own stats and performance are not in count in the process of ranked, that mean you have no control over your rank and this is not good from my pov.

[brisk wolf]

real
30 minutes cooldown is diabolical

[hazy shore]

role q when?

[idle cloak]

if your gonna have a sniper in the game, headshots should be an insta death, screw the body shots buts a head shot sould = death, stupid af it doesnt kill instantly

[copper wadi]

Does anyone have problems with the rank scoring system?
I am playing very good but I always lose points on the second round😭
It has started since 2 weeks ago when I got demoted to Plat 2 for the first time.

[honest harness]

I thought about why lights are not even needed in that game and as I'm a light only this few things could help to make them more useful:

• Make the mash HP 1100 again (or even more - lights can glitch and that)
• make cloak more invisible again (lights can scout and check what the other teams do)
• rework the stun gun again (it's just not as useful anymore)
• make the barrier smaller again (to make mash a better option)
• more hipfire spray to all weapons based on there mag size (just so that a light may have a bigger change of getting away)
• change back the fcar (because of prev. point)
• make the APS glitchable
• slower the turret fire rate OR decrease the cloak delay (to have a better chance of escape)

And some things I did not think about that much but...

• maybe give the frag mines a tiny delay?
• maybe make the glitch mine to have a smaller radius but opaque the mine itself?
• maybe (and that's a very big maybe) let us glitch the jump pads (both from the arena and those from mediums)
• maybe give us lights a gas mask (to make is possible to steal a cash point while it's gassed)

I know that those changes will probably never happen and some if not all of them are pro light only but I just wanted to write them down anyway.

[swift skiff]

btw why did the battle pass got 2 pages, if those pages fit more to the level system? Sponsors always were at the normal level progression and now they are in the battle pass? I would have liked more to get rewards until level 60 instead of 2 more bp pages. This is heading a bad way.

[idle cloak]

show kill cams, your just asking hackers to slao you in the face

[queen ocean]

Battlepass is a few bucks only, in a FREE GAME that gets ALOT of updates. I know you might think everything is for free, but its not, its a passionate business for them. They HAVE TO make money otherwise they cannot keep the game alive. Use the thing that sits between ur small shoulders.

[dawn hazel]

Although I highly agree with supporting the game. (I’ve bought both battle passes and cosmetics from the shop) I do think the level cap should be increased for FTP players so that they might be enticed to spend money on the game later on. Also, I wanted to come here and say the new game mode is fuggin INCREDIBLE. Addicting as hell and the new ranked system is just as amazing. Doesn’t take damn near an hour anymore for one tourney and I love that. Keep up the good work Embark. 👍💯

[tired oasis]

you really haven't thought about the game design by increasing the size of the barricades, there are plenty of places where we can no longer place them because of their large size.

if it was the head glitch that you found too powerful, just do like the RPG and prevent us from being able to shoot above the barricade, but I found that the head glitch was not too powerful given that we expose our head and 200% damage on us. The barricade allowed information to be gathered without revealing too much, now it is more of a handicap than anything else.

[bold lantern]

More customization and options for the crosshairs;

• Static crosshair (The current one moves around)
• Toggle to always show the crosshair even while ADSing/scoping
• Option to only use a dot or circle without any external bits
• Option to have different crosshairs for different weapons or weapon categories (i.e. circle for shotgun, dot for rifles, dot + cross for automatic rifles)

[hollow breach]

This is so melodramatic

[bleak coral]

the end is near 😭 😭

[oblique bane]

The players that play this game are litterly so toxic I can’t even bare to solo queue the game anymore at this point I join a pubs game with my mic off play objective nobody’s talking which is fine but then both my teammates will just leave in the first minute of the game and then I spend half the first cashout trying to find a second I go to ranked where I get shit talked for every single thing I do no matter the circumstance I was playing heavy he was fighting the last guy on a team with the cashout I steal it but get killed by a different team moving in after he died as a heavy to a light player and I have to sit there and listen to this idiot blame every single thing on me and what a shit player I supposedly am when I go to report him he teamkills me for standing still to type idk what I’m doing that’s causing my teamates to just be so butthurt off rip but it feels like it’s constant now just trying to solo queue a few games before my friend hop on is absolutely miserable every time I try and do it the past week it’s like litterly the only way you can find a decent game is on the discord but it’s seems pretty dumb I can’t just open the game and play it I have to get my phone out because I’m on ps5 and hop on discord to find two people who may or may not just turn out to have mic’s but only use them to try and force me to play healing beam medium

[reef jasper]

more crosshair customization options

any sort of small buff for the light class

SH1900 buff, 2 shots and a melee to pop a heavy and almost 3s reload makes it very inefficient to use

MODEL SHOTTY needs to be reworked to not be so dominant

flamethrower is too powerful as is

let us see fame points so we can track progress on rank ups

m1 garand weapon skin for LH1 pls

[sand ridge]

Please make it where you can opt out of ranked with people. It so aids getting two random using melee in ranked. Like I want to win not meme. There should be away for you black list certain weapons. Don’t even party me up with a melee user. Imma just leave.

[sly estuary]

I know this game is teambased and you cant play solo but can we get some TDM only mediums so we can play this game when we dont have 2 friend online. It will be fun and good to train aim. I dont want to play with randoms who dont have mic against 3stacks

[idle cloak]

barricades aren't any issue imo, just the unlimited range of weapons is stupid and makes no sense. Like ima hit you with a magnum from 400 yds out an 3 shot you. dumb af. Snipers/rockets not doing cheese for damage is also dumb more so the rpg, Lights should be a 1 shot. i mean fr get shot with a sniper or a bazooka than walk it off. Your not gonna be hit with a nuke and walk it off. Stupid af. Gernade damage increase would be feasible too, medium should be hit with half damage. a light should be 1 hit, heavy is a quarter. Tbf the fact they dont 1 shot lights is stupid and lazy. Your not copying cod

[hollow badger]

nerf sword

[high swallow]

the new game mode is so freaking good or as the young bucks might say: W

[cinder ridge]

That’s basically bank it. @sand ridge I agree w you. If I get matched with a dumbass useless riot shield player again I’m just gonna go 3rd party people the whole game.

[hidden edge]

Ughh the suspended structures quick cash is super frustrating.
They need to be closer to buildings.
Did they change jump pads so they couldn't reach the platform?
I couldn't reach even trying to vault up.

[swift skiff]

1. making the battle pass 2 pages longer doesnt bring them much money because they dont sell the 2 pages extra and main selling time was at the beginning of the season. If they partly sell the level system as a permanent battle pass they make more money than adding it to the current battle pass

2. the finals makes some money by battle passes but less than you think. The bp gives you enough coins to buy it in the next season too so the majority of players who have the battle pass will use the coins for the next battle pass. Most of the money comes from so called whales (people who spend much money on games and in the finals buy every cosmetic) thats why they push out so many cosmetics too. Every cosmetic is the price of the battle pass or more

3. I mainly said it because it fits better to the level progression system than the battlepass

4. dont talk to me like I am a kid who doesnt know anything about gaming industry and how it makes money. In fact, I would even say that I know more about this than you because I already made smaller games and watched countless documentaries about this

@hollow breach I just wanted to mention it

[arctic relic]

buff flamethrower damage.

[unreal widget]

i think defib should be limited to one per team, playing against 3 mediums is like playing 3v6, especially when you are solo queue

[sly estuary]

No its not. Its just how some people play on bank it mode like its TDM they go for kills and half goes for objectiv. That is why mode sucks. TDM with only 1 class so everyone is on same HP and smaller map for fast pace dopamin rush. @cinder ridge

[golden rock]

I think it is because most of them are changed battlepass skins. The 3 Vaiiya weapon skins have the same idea as weapon skins at page 10, just white and red instead of black and purple and all but the weapon skin from the last page are golden versions of other battlepass skins.

Some people might have found it unfair if other where able to get the same, albeit slightly different, skins they got from a battle pass, for free and much faster too, assuming not everyone has finished the battlepass yet (I know I didn't)

That said I have no idea which skins are free in the battlepass and which ones are only unlocked when you pay for them, so maybe they are all the same skins, in which case, ye they should probably be in the leveled progression.

If that is the case the only option why they are in the battle pass is because they want them to be a limited run, not unlockable later on (which also aligns with the fact that they are recolors of other skins) possibly hinting that Vaiiya might not stay a sponsor for long

[cosmic narwhal]

I just got respawned into the bubble in sys$horizon

[queen ocean]

Adding 2 pages to the Battle Pass is giving people more value for their already spent money, which is freaking amazing. Love that company.

My whole comment was regarding your "this is heading a bad way".

Calling people "whales" who buy 10$ skins is actually hilarious. Buying Skins is literally peanut money.

You can watch as many documentaries as you want. Where I come from, you got to earn your place.

You wouldn't be talking like that if you would make serious money.

They got to make money and for the FREE GAME and updates they provide, they have every right to do so. Not like CoD or most games on the market, which give you nothing for your money.

[slow crescent]

We need transparency ranked games

[hazy shore]

i think the bp gun animation for m11 is bugged. when i equip it and go to another screen, it unequips.

[teal minnow]

Season 3 they said.

[spare cape]

Y’all killing it sorry for all the toxicity y’all get all I wanna see is haptic adaptive trigger support for ps5 it would be a huge quality of life change for the finals especially since y’all gotta huge following on console. Being able to feel all tha different guns and gadgets would be sick with proper rumble when running through walls and walk-in on terrain Broo y’all would be cooking fr

[sand ridge]

Can you remove melee weapons from ranked games. I get people like to have fun and shit but the pain I get when from spectate my melee teammates who has to ignored every fight because he doesn’t have a gun make me want break stuff. It’s an almost guaranteed loss and you can’t opt out of bad teammates. My rank shouldn’t be so drastically tied to my randoms load-out. I should have a say in what kind of team I get.

[violet elbow]

The FCAR, AKM and FAMAS are all worse than the M60 and the Lewis now in terms of total damage, ranged damage and DPS, on a class with 100 less health.

will there ever be a point where Heavy isnt objectively better than every other class or is that just what embark wants?

[quick coyote]

MUTING SOMEONE IN-GAME DOES NOT MUTE THEIR COMMS
this feels like a huge oversight. i rarely find people using voicechat, let alone being annoying with it. muting someone should 100% stop their comm notifications. i just had to play and entire match of terminal attack while two of my teammates were spamming the "Thanks" comm

[hearty sun]

buff throwing knives, should 1 hit mediums on a rmb headshot

[hidden edge]

Just buff them in general lol

[wintry oyster]

So I got four things to say:

1.) I think that challenges like "steal x cashouts" should be counted for the whole team in round and not just one person (kind of like in Hunt: Showdown). I personally think that it is not beneficial for the team dynamic when I constantly have to go on cashouts to steal them instead of just letting positioning and tactics decide who does it (in a team).
It kind of leads to situations where I am "playing against my own team" just to get the cashout at all cost. Due to my Gameplay I have to grind those kind of challenges just to get them by and it is really annoying (for me and my teammates) because it leads to unwanted situations.

2.) It is sometimes annoying to open the scoreboard just to not be able to read it due to an upcoming event. It would be nice if the scoreboard would overwrite the "Event-announcement"

3.) I said it already plenty of times but just to make sure I am gonna add it to the list again:
Please change the Death-/Killscreen UI color to either blue, the color of the team that killed you or totally new color not implemented in anyway yes. I got usedto it but i think it is really unintuitive that it is just downright purple which already represents an enemy color.

4.) I find the new uprank/downrank display very confusing. I think the definite points were much better to tell how the match effected your ranking

[swift skiff]

giving more value to the bp doesnt bring them any money

if your comment was regarding "this is heading a bad way" why are you talking about them making money then?

I am not talking about 1 10€ skin when I am talking about whales, I never said people who buy 1 10€ skin are whales. I am talking about 20 10-20€ skins and many more cosmetics 3-10€

"Where I come from, you got to earn your place." are you 13 yo or wtf? 😂

yeah, I made money from my games

I never said they shouldnt make any money, I even said they could make a paid path for level progression. Read what I write:

"making the battle pass 2 pages longer doesnt bring them much money because they dont sell the 2 pages extra and main selling time was at the beginning of the season. If they partly sell the level system as a permanent battle pass they make more money than adding it to the current battle pass

the finals makes some money by battle passes but less than you think. The bp gives you enough coins to buy it in the next season too so the majority of players who have the battle pass will use the coins for the next battle pass. Most of the money comes from so called whales (people who spend much money on games and in the finals buy every cosmetic) thats why they push out so many cosmetics too. Every cosmetic is the price of the battle pass or more"

and @golden rock yeah ig you are right, what you write actually makes sense compared to the alpha 13yo kiddo arguing without arguments xd

[bleak coral]

this channel isnt for arguing guys

[golden rock]

So after playing the new mode for some time now and seeing how much better lights are there compared to rankeds I came to a conclusion that it is the health regen or lack thereof that is helping the light class the most.

I think it could be an interesting idea to try and implement that system to the rest of the game, not necessarly the way it is in the terminal attack, coz it feels like it favors lights too much and would not be good for the extended fights of cashout matches.

I think good thresholds would be:
100 HP for lights
150 HP for Medium
200 HP for Heavies
or 150 HP for everyone (tho that might be a tad too unfair towards lights)

At least for the beginning, those could of course be adjusted later. At the same time changing that without changing the healing beam would probably make it the best specialization in the game so I imagine both its' maximal healing output and recharge rate should be hit with the nerf hammer.

Meaning it would be able to heal less overall health and you would need to wait longer for it to be healing again. I think the healing rate it currently has is fine as long as you can't have it in every fight, for the entire fight as it basically is right now, and those changes would make you choose between healing or engaging in the moment with the heal.

[glacial sierra]

another day, another request to explain why i'm stuck with 12 more personal cashout steals to do when you're promoting a game type that doesn't feature any cashouts, or at the very least a solution to getting rid of the f___ing thing.

[shell steppe]

Hello Devs,
[Feature request for Powershift]
are there any plans in adding marker or a percentage to the Powershift progress bar on top? It would give way more feedback regarding the current state of the platform.
For example either a 0-100% counter on each side to see how far the platform has move inside the enemy territory
Or multiple lines at the Bar to at least get a hang on the current state (every 25% for example)

Thanks! love the game!

[real egret]

Not like the game has 3 popular full game modes that have cashouts…

[mystic sierra]

there's money bar on the top right which tops up to 40k

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my problem is that there's nothing you can do now with light melee dashers since stun gun doesn't limit their mobility at all and glitch grenade/mine in that case is still useless, the game asks you to use two utilities now and one of them has a long delay

[acoustic edge]

To address the situations where you're getting hopelessly goo'd in or stuck behind goo in unfortunate situations:
Adjust melee damage to goo to be 2 melees to break a goo block.

[hearty sun]

should turn this into something like bugfixes, where it's a thread per post or smth, and ppl can talk abt it in the thread

[wintry oyster]

I do absolutely agree though that those missions can be tedious to fulfill since you are required to do it alone too. And I agree that the cashout modes are popular and in my opinion the "true roots" of this game

[obtuse viper]

since update i get more game crashes..

[tired oasis]

Barricades Feedback:

you really haven't thought about the game design by increasing the size of the barricades, there are plenty of places where we can no longer place them because of their large size.

if it was the head glitch that you found too powerful, just do like the RPG and prevent us from being able to shoot above the barricade, but I found that the head glitch was not too powerful given that we expose our head and 200% damage on us. The barricade allowed information to be gathered without revealing too much, now it is more of a handicap than anything else.

[polar mist]

Now that FCAR has been nerfed, no one can stop the heavies. They have too many skills to damage their opponents despite their high strength. They are tanks. They should be more defensive.

[swift skiff]

yep sry for that

[mild gust]

highly agree heavies are too broken pls nerf 🙏🙏

[white otter]

Stop making matchmaking worse with every fix. Somehow each "fix" makes matchmaking worse on console without cross play enabled. Haven't been able to find a ranked match since the last update.

[golden rock]

1. Headshots aren't always 2x damage, most weapons actually have a lower multiplier on headshots and some don't at all so having only your head exposed actually hinders weapons like shotguns and CL-40

2. I think the problem was more the fact that player models have their guns behind the barricade while still being able to shoot through it, because guns are positioned slightly higher from the shooter perspective ad it was bewildering to see a heavy with his gun behind the barricade still be able to shoot through it.

3. While I agree that maybe adjusting the barricade was not the best option it was a fix that required the least amount of testing, basically just saying "no you can't do that anymore" in an obvious way, if they instead changed the barricades so that you just couldn't shoot above them it would probably take some more coding and it would feel weird that you cannot shoot what you are able to aim at, and a whole lotta stuff like that.

[drowsy stump]

Recoil for medium needs to be fair if some kid with a smg is gonna drop a mag with no recoil from across the map.

[glacial sierra]

not with reasonable wait or full teams where i live.

[zenith linden]

when scoping with night vision its all white

[fading pelican]

What do you guys think of having an alternative contract system? Like instead of Steal 15 Cashouts it's "Steal 15 Cashouts or Eliminate X number of enemies"? I used to play League and they have two options per mission (on certain missions).

[outer abyss]

it would have pros and cons, the pro being that youd get faster through the quest, but they'd have to make the pass longer / more xp needed per level

[fringe monolith]

I didn't recieve my terminal attack event reward

[timber sage]

please nerf the 1887 or at least make other medium guns as strong as it. i don't want to use the 1887 in pubs and i'm kinda getting sick and tired of dying to them easily

[violet elbow]

the pathetic excuse thats called "balancing" in the weekly updates has genuinely killed this game's sandbox, Light is in the worst state its ever been in and medium is just a healbot now, HHM is the strongest its ever been, and all because you listen to dogshit casuals with zero clue on how the game actually plays that complain because they fucking suck. nerfing guns in ways that make no sense (recoil and range) before DOING OTHER NERFS ANYWAY (FCAR damage nerf) because you just cant seem to get your balancing right, its so fucking disheartening when everything about this game constantly improves but the balancing team shits the bed every fucking week with tone deaf nerfs nobody remotely decent asked for

[upper citrus]

Weapon balance suggestions

FAMAS: buff range (10m min and max)

REVOLVER: buff range (5m min and max)

MODEL 1887: increase the dispersion of the 4 pellets in the middle of the shot slightly so that the shotgun is less effective against light at range

Lh1: nerf fire rate by 50%. Buff damage from 49 to 50. Lower min damage fall off to 50m and max to 80m

Xp-54, 5% fire rate nerf. Reasoning: the XP is a generalist weapon that also happens to be just as good as the other light weapons in their respective niches. Those weapons aren’t even bad either, the XP is just too strong. A slight adjustment like this would help the other weapons stand out as being more worth it. The Lewis gun and rpg nerfs at the end of this giant suggestion will more than make up for these necessary light nerfs

93R: give it a drum mag, if damage stats are going to be significantly worse, allow it to sustain that lower damage for much longer. 60 round mag.

Lewis gun: buff range (+10m min and max) nerf fire rate by 20%. Reasoning: there is no reason why the long range alternative to the m60 should beat both the M60 and the SA1216 at close range, these changes will encourage users to play to the strengths of the weapon and give it a weakness close up

RPG: nerf damage to 80, remove aoe fall off, reduce cooldown by 20s. This would encourage using it for team splash damage instead of being a “fuck you” button for lights. The cooldown buff would also make it less punishing to use for destruction

[tired oasis]

You can't with the rpg

[empty pike]

Does anyone else experience inconsistencies regarding gaining and losing ranks in ranked?
i played all my games with a friend. I play H, he plays M. For some reason he gains almost twice as much points than me and also loses half of it. We've been hovering over dia 4 and plat 1 but he always gets more "arrows up" and less "arrows down" than me. Sometimes he even gains 1 up when i get 1 down which honestly should be reverse since he is higher in rank than me.
I havent read anywhere that there is performance based ranking, only that the wins and the money at the end matters.

[vestal coral]

please improve the matchmaking and ranked as soon as possible as it is really bad and unplayable.

[proper chasm]

Yea this new ranked change broke something quite horribly

[hidden edge]

Can we get or is there already a channel for outfit/clothing suggestions?
I missed the skill issue (freaking relevant lol) singlet and I really want a singlet for my contestant!

[foggy dawn]

Good to see Ranked is in the talk right now. I started playing the Finals a few weeks ago and today was finally the Day to start Ranked with my Friends. Both of them are Gold 1. We played against Gold and Platinum and we won 1 Tournament, got 2nd once, went to round 2 two times and got our ass beat one time with a loss in Round one. How in the ever living ... is it possible that i get Ranked in Bronce 4 after that? What kind of joke is this suppose to be?

[fringe burrow]

I noticed yall made the new bundle in the store purchasable piecemeal which is awesome, can that be applied to some of the older bundles too, still want the chicken emote and back cosmetic but hate the outfit it comes with lol

[golden rock]

The recent blog post about the ranked games from the devs explains it more or less, but to save you the trouble of searching for it TL;DR is basically you get placed lower than you should be, but rank up faster to that point, just so you can experience climbing up and progress instead of feeling like you are stuck at your starting rank forever. They plan to change that in season 3 (this is also a bad place to talk about it more since the 30 min cooldown on messages)

[topaz ledge]

I think reloads should be interruptable, having uninterruptable reloads makes reloading more of a tactical choice however being caught in the transition animation from a canceled reload is enough imo

[forest veldt]

When you mouse over the Fcar in the edit contestant screen, it still says it only has 20 bullets.

[alpine wren]

I think the quest: "deposit 150,000 in cash in any mode" is buggy.

[hard badger]

please ban snipers on power shift mode. Its the only annoying thing in this game mode and the snipers are not moving at all, so they aren't contributing to teamwork what is stupid. I have never seen a sniper on the platform lmao, says everything

[fading pelican]

Contracts should have alternatives. Like do this or that. Lessens load on the player. Sticks with options and alternatives.
Contracts like "Steal 15 Cashouts" should count teammates so no foul incentives to throw a nade when a teammates arrived first to steal, or to leave a cashout to steal another and leave your teammates behind for selfish reason. Quitting early will also be reduced. I know because I quit to get into another game when the one before doesn't have chance to steal cashouts anymore.
Devs should get someone who understands behavioral science to write some of the contracts. Some of the contracts don't make sense but they can't monitor the effects because they don't seem to know what to look for. I've quitted games because of some unnecessarily difficult/particular contracts. The reroll was a good idea too (for the dailies) but the others need some solution too.

[west ivy]

Ok im done 3 cheaters in a row with a derank in 2nd set, goodbye finals it was fun while it lasted

[outer abyss]

the problem would be that they'd have to make them give less xp, which would also not be so great...

[upper citrus]

you are meant to spawn far from doubled cashouts in order to add more risk to doubling them, before s2 it was very common to double your own cashout and then just never lose it because teams would be too busy fighting and respawning super close to ever be able to steal, the respawn system definitely has issues but this feature specifically is actually good.

[foggy ginkgo]

Factsss

[pastel python]

when they gonna add anti cheat?

[young rapids]

You know what would really help with queues? Instead of having separate queues for each mode allow people to select which modes they want to queue into and queue for them all at once. So if you want to play cashout or quick cash you can queue for both same with powershift, bank it or terminal attack.

Right now the playerbase is split because there's too many modes with their own separate queues.

[somber patrol]

Add some sort of protection against 3rd party squading.
Regen hp after enemy squad wipe or add shield hp like in Terminal Attack.

[muted wasp]

Good question

[vestal coral]

nerf mines and turrets, enough with double mines, Sometimes there are a lot of turrets and mines everywhere.

[proud eagle]

they did and EASY anticheat is the basic of basic anticheat system. it's free, hence the number of cheaters.

[grizzled canopy]

Day 31 of asking Embark for medieval bundles ||im not giving up||

[upper citrus]

Light is in the best state it’s ever been in for competitive what? Fcar nerf was amazing for light and the only things that got nerfed on light were the crutches for quick cash. I’m having more success with light in ranked than ever

@violet elbow spoken like someone that wants to blame the balance of the game instead of admitting they might just not be that good

[violet elbow]

spoken like somebody with zero clue on anything that only looks at numbers

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[cinder ridge]

Well said buddy

[hollow cape]

now, will the event mode stay as a playable normal mode???

[halcyon dock]

True

[analog bear]

I agree, light feels great right now

[timber hazel]

High rank medium main here, yeah now it no longer as frustrating to play against light but I still think dash and grapple should still get some buff
So that the only viable specialization in rank isn’t just cloak :o

And honestly, I think they nerf the stun too hard.
Just letting people aim down sight while stun were already been plenty

Cause now if light stun a heavy, they just shield. Which I guess that just mean they learn to stop stunning heavy? But I’m not sure

[spare cape]

Haptic adaptive trigger support for ps5 ❗️🙏🏾🥲

[wintry basin]

Heavy being able to 1 shot a medium with his slam is not healthy. He can hit u 3 times with a single ability... And kill a medium. Thats not how it should be. It should only deal damege once not matter how many drifts he does and hits u.

[raven jacinth]

2 times in a row i'm facing ddos abuser in ranked

[narrow timber]

So you're admitting you were not a light player before the nerfs? I mean, light rn is just worse than what it was before, if you're saying you're having more success with light than ever you're just indirectly saying you are not a light player

[fading pelican]

I would be fine with that I think. Maybe there's another way to make-up for that the xp loss. Such as more contracts (but as I said with alternatives). I just don't like incentives that make me go against the interest of the team. It sounds absurd. The other contracts don't do this to me. But unnecessarily difficult/particular contracts make me even quit games early (and I've noticed it). I don't really quit games but this contract made me quit early in 6-7 games just tonight now that I think of it.
.
On a side note, since I can only send a message every now and then, they should fix the following:

1. The enter/exit voice chat ("K") working even though one is typing in a Report (Player). It shouldn't! I see some unintentionally join the voice chat when making a report (see: when they type with the letter and the game thinks they're activating enter/exit the voice chat).
2. F12 being the button/key to remove the overlay/user interface. F12 is screenshot in a lot of games/platforms (such as Steam) so here it does both for me which is crazy. I hope the remove overlay/UI button/key can be remapped (ex. to F11).
   .
   Please, Embark. At least acknowledge some of these things in the patch notes. Thank you.

[dull elm]

Maybe reconsider the stun gun changes bc if an enemy has dash or charge the stun is literally useless since they can still move...

[plain lotus]

Maracas 🪇 for throwing knife skins and they rattle lmao I would love that

[high wing]

remove auto aim from pc

[narrow owl]

Embark, please have contestants facing the direction of the active deposit box when spawning.

[rustic grail]

Devs should change the current rules of ranked tournament into the rules of Quick Cash, which avoids chaos and simplies the game, making the game clearer and easier to understand .

[light beacon]

Anyone else disliking the new changes in the HUD/UI in game? (Not showing the distance from you to bombs unless u aim in the icon of the bomb, skinny health bars...)

[obtuse viper]

yeah.. idk what they changed but im maining revolver and can't perform how i used to before the update.. have a feeling they changed some more stuff that i can't really put my finger on

[forest veldt]

Remove snipers

[violet elbow]

yeah not like the Lewis has always been better than the FCAR and still is, while the SA12 is still the most busted gun in the game, and rpg still does 140 damage, but hey all the medium rifles are worse than the lewis and M60 now so clearly light is strong now and its not just HHM meta 💀

[opal swallow]

Hi Embark, you'll probably never read this anyway, but I'm still writing something because I'm fed up. In my opinion, the "improved" ranking system is only a downgrade, who even wanted to have only three rounds? I (Plat1) play against Dia1 people, where I wonder what you have a rank for at all, after all, it doesn't seem to bring anything anyway. Likewise, I still don't understand why I get 2 arrows down in a game for the first round but 3 arrows down in the second round. Where does that make sense? I don't have a queue against longer waiting times, but I have something against unfair matchmaking. Please do something that I also play with people who also have my rank.

[inner sparrow]

Will embark ever add mouse and keyboard support for consoles?

[alpine jungle]

As a player that has been playing Finals since the start of this game in beta what was a fun FPS game has been very changed up... I understand the removal of recon ability that medium did have thats fine because medium still had sonar nades to counter light when they would go invisible etc. Not just that but before going into revive/actually play the role as support you could scan the area with a sonar nade.

Now medium has had sonar nades removed from medium and given to light who can go invisible. Again the removal of recon ability imo slowed down the gameplay of this game but that was fine because medium still did have sonar nades... NOW we dont even have sonar nades as medium.. Medium has 100% been changed up from its originality that is for sure but help me undserstand why light can go invisible yet we have 0 way in this game to counter said ability because the only counter we had was removed from medium role.. Btw that new snd mode is nice!

Heres a idea since we have 0 counter to light going invisible. The only counter is actually using our eyes and ears but just as players called for the removal of recon ability because there was 0 counter to it. How bout light gets the invisibility ability removed seeing as to there being no counter now to that ability.

Also the matchmaking in ranked what exactly has changed? There is still lower ranked ppl being matched up vs stacked diamond players. Could you imagine being solo Q with randoms on your team who has 0 clue how to play the game yet the games matchmaking puts those players on your team and puts you vs stacked diamond players who sit in discords playing Finals ranked from 9-5 daily and knows everything about the game. What great balanced matchmaking when the simple solution is as I been saying all along... STOP matching solo Q players vs stacked teams meaning if a player is solo q dont put them vs ppl who are partied up together as a team. Match parties vs parties that is how you create fair balance matchmaking. You can put a diamond solo Q vs a team of bronze stacks but its still not going to be a fun experience. Its wait 5 mins for a balanced match to match solo Q vs solo Q or find a stack and go and play vs other stacks with a quicker queue time. Its that simple thats how you fix matchmaking in any game.

[main knot]

Nah, console player are Just meat for PC player

[solemn girder]

FIX SEARCH MODE DISPLAY !!! it sucks when random dudes invite you and you see ok were going to play quick cash but they search for ranked but the stupid search display shows quick cash

[subtle oak]

It has been a while since Ive read this channel.

Really interesting to see people in here that think light is useful.
For pub stomping it might be amazing. For ranked its useless against heavy, medium healer teams. The cloak and stun gun nerf werent even necessary, the class was already bad, now even worse.

[floral phoenix]

apparently there was unofficial support on xbox for m+kb and, and kb but not mouse support on PS5. Both have been patched out which hints at Embark not wanting KB+M on consoles.
Though it would be nice to have that option since we have crossplay.

[upper citrus]

Lewis has literally never been better than the fcar until now, it had less range and less damage until 2.6

SA12 is not the most busted weapon in the game there and it literally loses to the m60 and lewis gun in a 1v1

Medium's weapons SHOULD be worse than heavy's weapons in terms of dps but they should have longer range.

HHM meta was DIRECTLY nerfed in this patch

And yes I've said numerous times that lewis gun, rpg, and lh1 need to be nerfed and then the game will be in a balanced spot. That doesn't mean that the fcar nerf wasnt a huge buff to light.

[fierce bolt]

progression bar to ranked when? takes like 10 lines of code to do that

[slow saffron]

Please implement text chat! Or at least a way for multiple "parties" to accept invites. I have a pre-made with one other person, and it would be nice when others invite me, they could be notified of my "party" and be able to invite them as well.

[queen cloud]

the fact that lewis has faster ttk than all the ARs on medium class is baffeling to me. Like how can you have more bullets in a mag, more HP and shields and do more dmg?!?
And that is not even accounting for the rpg that every heavy uses to start a fight inflating ttk even more.

There is no fps out there where an LMG is more effective than an AR, it makes no sense. Let alone an LMG exclusive to a class with 50% extra hp

[tame pivot]

trent had an H next to his name until recently, he's biased as fuck

[golden rock]

because heavies are incredibly slow and easier to hit at long ranges, making it easier to harras them with nades before a fight too, also their recoil makes it harder to win in long range engagements, all you have to do is not faceplant into a heavy and you can win with him.

Sure the equations change a bit when he is getting healed, but it is not like they are getting healed faster than other classes so it shouldn't be a problem

[sour crescent]

fcar no no good 😦

[little tundra]

Light balancing suggestions
-Give the grapple hook another charge, the only people I see using it are snipers, and honestly that's a shame cuz it feels like it can only be used as an escape option.

-Nerf the sniper into oblivion, or put it on mediums, the only people you see not pulling at least 10-15 kills with it per game are people who just stay in one sniper position the whole game instead of relocating after dropping a mag, my suggestion is upping the fire rate, lowering the hipfire spread, and lowering the damage significantly, maybe keep headshot damage relatively the same, so that those who put in the work can still succeed with it, but don't reward body shots as much, and the higher fire rate will allow them to support with suppressive fire, or destroying turrets and barricades more effectively, makes them actually useful to the team dynamic instead of having those games where the light is the most useless member of your team.

-Buff Double Barrel, for the love of god that weapon is so close to greatness, that reload time is stupid, I'd understand if the weapon had additional perks, or we had a secondary weapon to offset it, but as things stand it's a weapon that has to coordinate with team members to be effective, which sounds good, until you realize that means the light is just picking a worse weapon by comparison to the rest of it's primaries, as things stand picking an smg is just straight up better and offers more consistency and picking off priority targets is better for your team anyways.
My suggestion is buffing fire rate and reload speed, because 90% of the time you wind up popping off both your shots, whiffing half the pellets on the second shot, and then die because the second they hear that shotgun it triggers a "KILL KILL KILL" reaction in the enemy team. And just to be clear, I'm not saying it should kill in every interaction, I'm just saying it shouldn't be a death sentence to not perform immaculate with the weapon.

-Change up throwing knives, allow the light's to throw a third knive with m1, this is more of an experimental suggestion, as I'm aware with a little tweaking the throwing knives could completely tip the scales, but currently they are just niche and while fun to use, the time to kill with m1 (the only viable means of killing close range) is pathetic, I think the extra throwing knive would allow the weapon to be less punishing for new players and allow for a higher skill floor as well, since now you're aiming and leading a third shot.

-Buff dagger, literally just copy paste spy from tf2, or better yet just make it a secondary weapon for the lights, sets them apart and gives them a strong ambush weapon that they always have access to, and allows them to finish enemies after they've run out of ammo (ahem potential offset for the DB Shotgun) plus you could also do some shenanigans like giving the sword and dagger a unique moveset.

-93R, this weapon is just an inverse V9s, which means it sucks, yeah, more range is nice, but those ironsights make it feel awful to use for it's intended purpose, the spread of hipfire make it a crap chute for mid range scraps, and at close range you're better off with literally any other weapon, even if you claim "skill issue"... well I could just pick another gun and do better than someone who is playing out of their mind with this weapon, like... idk... V9s. There is legitimately nothing this weapon does that I can't do better with another weapon, there's just no legitimate reason to use it over the other weapons, which sucks, cuz I actually really like burst weapons.

-Breach charge, get rid of that stupid delay before you can pop it, genuinely one of the most baffling decisions I've seen. And also, give the light some gadgets that make sense for an aggressive playstyle, or better yet, do as I suggest earlier with secondaries, but instead, have it take up a gadget slot.

[river plover]

So if its not not good does that mean its good again 🤔

Also Embark please fix the the dagger just temporarily revert it to how it was pre 2.6 PLEASE I just want to play the game and thats impossible with this dagger PLEASE do everyone in the dagger community a favor and revert it, we are crying

[dreamy stratus]

SkeletalVision#1791

[vestal coral]

the game is not only full of cheaters, noob brain dead, bad sbmm, and also full of smurfs. Actually, if they don't fix it as soon as possible, this game will die soon, people are getting tired of all this crap.

[silent granite]

Sudden Death is the opposite of fun or fair

[willow jewel]

fix the triangle jumpads on seoul and skyway to carry momentum properly, nerf lewis and rpg, fix hitreg melee/general hitreg, stop lowering the skill cap, fix the sliding issues, make dash not get ruined by desync, make ranked fun, add a random option when selecting skins/outfits, let us create custom outfits, let us customize the randomization button(if added) to choose between select skins/outfits, also nerf mines

[tame bronze]

I now this isnt very important, but embark, you should drop vaiiya trousers pls, for the full outfit

[hushed quiver]

istg how much longer do we have to wait for text chat / better crosshair options to be implemented?
never seen a dev who ACTS like they care so much about their game just to fumble it by not adding the most basic QoL
At least you listened to redditors and nerfed light to the ground, nice good focus, epic chungus deluxe

[acoustic edge]

I play dash and grapple, and I think they're both entirely fine on the ability side. It's just the flat problem that light is always killed faster than they can kill regardless of movement if your opponent has any aim. The only thing that'll be a meaningful buff to light here is a health or dps increase.
I'm totally ok with them nerfing stun too hard because it's a really unfun ability, items that are so cancerous should generally not be powerful for the health of the game. Same for cloak, cloak sucked ass to play against and I'm glad it's now not a good tool to engage on. But they need to pivot with these changes and hard buff the base light, preferably with a straight up 10% damage increase

[sterile ermine]

Hi I face this problem several time, when I play rank game and advanced to the next round, sometimes, my screen will keep loading on a "Waiting for other contestant to join the next match" and it will keep on this screen for 10+ min and then I just disconnected. Also my rank result is dropped after I got disconneted, hope this is fix soon 🙏🏻

[loud zephyr]

CHANGE THE RANKING SYSTEM IDK EVEN KNOW HOW FAR I AM FROM GOLD

[mortal parcel]

Can we get 2 charges for the data reshaper please😁

[boreal wagon]

30 min ranked queue time...?

[wise kindle]

Get the fame point rankind system back for next season, this system is really bad

[brittle latch]

Terminal Attack and Power Shift should both be added to the Ranked Pool especially once the ruleset becomes more honed out. Example? 6v6 and not 5v5 for ranked. Why? Teams of 3 perfectly add up to 6 v 6 so you get to work with your enemies in one round and fight against them in the next should you qualify! Nothing lost. This Terminal Attack health regen BS is BS and I will not use any other language... be real guys that is just not a good idea.

[unreal fossil]

Powershift is unfit for Ranked. Most maps have unbalanced teams respawns and favor snipers too much. Sys$Horizon may in fact be the only exception. It's fine as a casual mode, but wouldn't work well for competitive games, even if snipers were banned.

[queen cloud]

sbmm works a bit too well, even in quickplay. Logged in on my other steam account for testing purposes, first game... Also orange lights were clearly smurfing just like me :D. Using dash well/knew how to approach fights/good aim

[upper citrus]

I swear people only look at the weapons as if they're meant to be balanced around realism it's insane. In terms of RAW DPS, heavy should be the 2nd highest but heavily limited by range. This makes perfect sense because heavy is the tank/defense class, if you are close to a heavy it means that you either fucked up your positioning or that you are attacking a heavy's objective, in which case, the heavy should have the advantage. Medium should be the lowest DPS of the 3 classes, not every class should get it's power from it's primary weapons. The trade off when picking medium should (and currently is) that you trade DPS for team utility. Medium posses many unique abilities (healing, projectile deletion, instant revive, team movement, etc) that are incredibly strong and should be the reason why medium is picked. Every class needs a trade off. The only class left without a trade off is heavy and it's entirely because of the lewis gun. Heavy shouldn't have any consistently good long range weapons, that is very standard tank class design. This is how you give medium the ability to play against heavy without just buffing dps which in turn, screws over light. Medium needs more range than heavy and less dps (currently only has less dps) Nerf the lewis gun, rpg, and lh1 and the game is in a perfect spot.

There is no reason for the support class to do more dps than the tank class.

[tame pivot]

ah yes the classic heavy should be an insta win on close range for ''reasons'' while having 3 get out of jail cards that negate poor positioning ( mesh shields, dome shields and barricade ) and the only 100% reliable burst damage ( the RPG ), there's no reason the tankiest class should literally delete everything close range when you're force into CQC fights because the game is objective based, we get it you think medium should be a heal bot, light free kills while heavy just dominates without even trying you can stop now

[mild tendon]

anyone else not able to unlock the cns jacket after doing all the challenges?

[pliant zealot]

can't either 🤷‍♂️

[worn sigil]

Got stuck in the infinite loading screen of PowerShift, I thought this bug was fixed? NANNIIII

@solemn sedge ranked is based on win streak mainly this season

[solemn sedge]

I’m probably gonna contact the devs directly, but, I just played this game for 15 hours straight, and I only got to top 8,200. I go to bed and now I’m top 9,900. Which means all of my progress to diamond is gone. I don’t know how this system works or why it’s so terrible, but I am GENUINELY going clinically insane because no matter what I do I can’t rank up. This game has been the highlight of gaming for me cause everything else sucks. But now it’s making me want to do something violent, please, for the love of god, LET ME RANK UP

[placid hazel]

womp womp skill issue

[forest veldt]

Data reshaper needs 2-3 charges.

[nimble valve]

why am I being queued with diamond 3 players as a gold 3???? just became gold 2 bc of that bs

[valid moat]

Can we please get a "Sorry" option in the communication wheel? I suck at this game and make a lot of bad plays and I'd like to be able to acknowledge to my teammates that I know I screwed up and am sorry without having to get on voice chat and risk being raged on and yelled at.

[humble temple]

14 games not 10. UI bug

[brittle latch]

I'm Diamond with 500 hours I just want this game to be fresh on life and things that are inconsistent with the overall system of the game will always be outliners to be fixed. The Health Regen is trivial it limits my One-Trick Pony builds of Melee Or Flamethrower because I'm getting Turreted and Chipped from Narnia... I get it really I do though it's the same as complaining about Sniping in Power Shift. Realistically unless they upgrade Ranked in some extreme way I'm not sure where else it can go at this point. 6v6 with class/gadget regulations as well as other minor rule tweaks maybe spawn adjustments I could see Ranked evolving like Overwatch did. Power Shift and Terminal are seriously well-designed modes and I'm having fun with both more than ranked in Season 2 personally.

[hollow badger]

buff m60

[rain sedge]

I DONT GET "FIRST WIN OF THE DAY" FROM NEW GAME MODE

[plush coyote]

This. There's been many times where I accidently did something against my team and felt rly sorry

[bleak vector]

🪲 Bug 🐛 I tried to play but was stuck in a previous game. My two options were:

1. Reconnect: I could "reconnect" to the end game view which let me see how many kills I got and whatnot
2. Leave game: I could also leave the game but incur a penalty for leaving a competitive match early

I tried the first one but was stuck in a loop because even after exiting, I was still stuck with those two options. I left my house and came back hours later to the same predicament. Figured I'd just hit leave game so I could play. Now I'm stuck with a 30 minute timeout before I can play again. I think there's clearly a **bug **happening here, and there's no way I'm the first (or last) to experience this

[slow saffron]

Well-said and thorough, and I agree with most points brought up. Better than killing the light class. Thank you for sharing!

[alpine wren]

Day 2 to ask Embark to play the old music in the game

[novel lily]

im sick and tired of these no skill light weapons on power shift, im talking to all the sword and sniper mains on power shift, go fuck yourselves

[mild tendon]

@humble temple but, jacket has the checkmark, and isnt in contestant inventory? i feel like ive played more than 14 games idk..

[quick coyote]

yo can you idiots fix the sledge hammer not slamming half the time but it still does damage as well as not always seeing when people die in kill feed. its quite pathetic

[queen cloud]

ye... 10kd?! Killed myself a couple times. SBMM really works. There should be no sbmm in quickplay whatsoever
Also the only people that stood a chance upclose against me were on console. Aimassist probably a bit overtuned aswell, but not my much. Pc players were much worse at these low sbmm level

This third match i could feel i was already on an upper tier of sbmm

[charred crest]

I feel like an easy and good addition to the game would be to add a quick enemy ping. I rather not doubleclick every time i fight someone. People don't give the ping enough credit, it tracks about a second and allows you to see through brush, follow around corners, and teammates get to see where you're shooting

[modern wedge]

new mode kinda cheeks ngl it doesnt fit this game at all idk why you added it

[hollow dune]

so you telling me there's no other silver ranked players no more in the whole entire game🤔

[ionic marsh]

Yh knew mode doesn't rlly fit the feel of the finals

[hasty citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/desmondpacito-cooking-chef-gif-12378159

[glass fjord]

Still fighting the same top triple stack team at plat 1 that I fought as a silver 4..... rank 13k now, why am I going up against the top team in the world over and over again? There's seriously not 12,997 other players out there I could potentially fight instead? Like wtf is this, I've been fighting the same team since I was placed at silver 4. Its so insanely frustrating and demotivating to try and rank up when I'm not even diamond yet and I have to go against literally the best team out there and face deranking for it. Not just once. MANY TIMES. And for what? So theres a short queue time? I'll honestly wait 10 minutes to go up against the teams that are closest to my leaderboard rank, I don't need a 30 second queue just to get shit on for a whole match or two. SBMM IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKED.

Side note, I've been playing with one friend the whole season. He's been plat 1 for two weeks. I was gold 4 last week and am now currently plat 1. We played all the same games in that week, how does he not rank up once? I went up 4 leagues and he doesnt go up 1? Might want to just revert to the last FP system huh?

[swift gust]

how many decades will embark take to fix the stupid shit spawn mechanics?????? It has been ruining the ranked mode for a long time and yet they're ignoring it.

[hardy bridge]

to quote ultrakill dev hakita "It's a good thing you guys aren't designing ultrakill or it would suck"
replace ultrakill with the finals

[brittle latch]

Agreed. A ping overhaul in general would be excellent as I climbed to Diamond with no mic and will continue to do so every seasn

[prisma sun]

nerf invis more

[gentle nexus]

This new 3 game ranked ruined progression. You get a win and go up 3 then get 1st rounded and lose 3. Am i supposed to win every game?

[slow saffron]

+1000

[cinder ridge]

I won a tourney and only went up 2 arrows 😭 haven’t lost since update so who knows how many I’d lose

[hearty hazel]

GAME CRASHED DURING RANKED TOURNEY, I REJOINED MY TWO FRIENDS AND WE QUALLED TO NEXT ROUND, I GOT KICKED OUT WITH A 10 MINUTE BAN. WENT TO EAT SOMETHING WHILE BAN WAS FINISHING AND I COME BACK TO SEE MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED FOR A WEEK !!!?????????????
FIX YOUR GAME

@quick coyote @quick coyote
can you do anything to look at my ban / fast track my ticket ?
this is a joke....
ign: breezy#0999

[tired girder]

I Why was the slide mechanic changed. It's ruined movement. I can't place a jump pad and then slide into it any more. Can't slide while using healing beam. Can't slide after melees Can't slide immediately after being revived. Can't slide while defib. It's completely changes the feel of movement and I feel like it's a bug or a mechanic you tried to change for another purpose with the oversight of how it would affect so many other aspects of movement. Many times I go to slide around a corner and end up dying because it just results in me crouch walking instead. This had never been an issue before. The game now feels very clunky to me.

[acoustic edge]

Anyone else been having a really good time with ranked since the last patch tweaks?
We've only had really nicely balanced fills and lobbies, and 3 rounds is actually so much less of a chore than 4.

[upper citrus]

Do not do this. Losing to a team that’s hard buffed because their teammate left would be terrible. Just add greater ranked penalties for leavers and soften the blow of the loss.

[autumn sedge]

The soundtrack is gold

[high wing]

remove auto aim from pc

[blazing willow]

HOW TO FIX THIS GAME:

1. Add sex

[patent torrent]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/MJ1Ux4GjiO

Worth a look.

[raw sail]

nerf the heal gun

[rancid thistle]

Does anyone else still get the bug where you aren't able to shoot any gun and after a death or a long time it works again?
I binded mwheel down to jump and sometimes when i spray I jump (could be physical error on my mouse too). Idk if its somehow related to that

[plush coyote]

I've been thinking a lot about this season's balancing changes and I am a little bit confused and would love some design input here but wouldn't made sense if:

1. Light build had Recon Senses specialization (since this is a more of hunting/flanking build, having a specialization like this would make hunting down solo players more easy + a great counter to players using Cloaking device and/or Vanishing bomb)

2. Shooting a player whose ADS'ing with a sniper knocks them out of ADS ( Having a sort of sniper flinch mechanic would make sniping more of a challenge but also would make suppressing fire a reality)

3. Medium and Heavy builds had Thermal vision gadget rather than Light build having it ( I believe this would alleviate some of the complains against players using Cloaking device and/or Vanishing bomb non-stop)

4. Players who are invisible have their eyes glow with the color of their team. (Should make spotting them easier + some real Predator stuff right here)

5. Medium build had Motion Sensor gadget (I haven't seen a single Heavy build player using this gadget as opposed to the barricade and/or dome shield, a gadget like Motion sensor feels like a good gadget for a Medium build with a APS turret and/or Guardian Turret)

**6. APS Turret loses health with each successful enemy's projectile shot down **(pretty much self explanatory, I believe this is a much needed nerf)

**7. Power Shift and Terminal Attack had a remove 2 weapons, 2 gadgets and 2 specializations phase at the start of the match **(each team would take turns to remove 1 weapon, 1 gadget and 1 specialization, this should allow for games to not rely too much on ''metas'' and spice things up a bit)

**8. Dagger was a gadget **(As a weapon, the dagger underperforms, if it was a gadget, it would have 1 charge, if the player lands a hit with it, it spends 1 charge and then they have to wait a couple of seconds to use again, if the player misses, they keep the charge)

[brittle obsidian]

Recon ruined the game, putting it on the worst class won't change that. Cloak is already completely worthless outside of stomping casual. Dagger was literally fine as a gimmicky style points weapon before the hitreg changes.

[pseudo jetty]

CL-40 is soo fun but also inconsistent as hell

[coarse junco]

If you guys do not fix the damn sword melee lunge not registering im literally gonna go insane its been forever and no fix FIX THIS BS BRO I AM LOSING MATCHES/TOURNAMENT'S CAUSE OF THIS BS 2ND TIME SENDING THIS

[willow jewel]

oh god this is terrible, 1 recon was op and we most likely wont ever get new specializations unless all 3 classes get new ones, 2 sniper is not fun to fight, making it even LESS fun to fight is a horrid idea, 3 thermal sucks and other gadgets are better on med and heavy it would never be picked AND you are by proxy asking for a nerf to light which is clownery, 4 FUCK NO !!!! you should uninstall the game if you cant alr see cloak/invis ESPECIALLY after the last nerfs, so you're self reporting rn as a terrible player, 5 no opinions cus idrc abt it, 6 good idea aps is not fun to fight and is general yucky for the game (finally a good idea) 7, power shift and terminal attack are both casual modes, AND this would cause horrendous amounts of bugs/problems for newer player who only have 1-2 guns and it wouldnt work, bad idea, 8, all dagger needs is a fix and buff, removing a weapon will do nothing but piss off players who liked and used that weapon, although i must say that having a dagger gadget alongside the dagger would would be a cool idea

[main notch]

these are actually pretty good ideas and i would like to see them in the game

[narrow owl]

Please add the ability to preview weapon skins on our character that have not been purchased.

[naive burrow]

Matchmaking still sucks

[copper nacelle]

how tf am I getting 2 afk teammates in gold 1 ? Wasn't the afk issue already adressed ?
and they're not getting kicked because their character just moves forward forever

[pseudo breach]

Day 39 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[dreamy turret]

do something the game don't fucking stop crashing

[reef jasper]

POWERSHIFT FOR RANKED!

[fast shale]

Check out bug that doesn't let you shoot or do anything with gadgets

[vestal coral]

oh my god this game is increasingly full of smurfs and cheaters it's making me vomit because of how much the toxic community part sucks!!

[plush coyote]

I didn't feel like Recon senses ruined the game (yes it was a bit OP and definitely overused in comp) but it just needed to be reworked and feels more fitting for a Light build to have that rather than Medium whose role should be more a support rather than hunter'ish (or at least that's the design approach with Medium I think the devs intended), Cloak is worthless in a competitive scene yes but there's been complains about it pretty much since season 1 (gotta think about our casual friends here, since I assume they make most of this game's player base), as for the Dagger, even though it was supposed to be gimmicky, I legit think it was the worst weapon in the game and after the hitreg changes, it feels even worse now, would like to see some changes to it.

Appreciate the response 👍

[spark shard]

How many complaints does it take for matchmaking to be reviewed? Is it necessary to create a change.org?

[iron charm]

It is becoming hard to enjoy now as an average solo player. Feel like i'm getting stomped a lot of the time. Not sure if its' cheaters or just the smaller player base and only the good players are left but i'm struggling to enjoy it.

[high wing]

remove auto aim from pc

[burnt dawn]

Why are of light's Gadgets grenades?

[slow saffron]

I like number 6 and 7! 6 can use some nerf, either less life in general or while in use or requiring line of sight. Also for 7, I think it would easily show the developers which items are failing or need some rebalancing.

[sly wharf]

Buff the hammer for heavy

[spice stag]

i dont think ive seen a single person who played dagger be actually supportive of the changes done to it this patch, can only pray they get a grip and revert it

[analog bear]

Cancel the Ranked match if all players dont join, dumb to play 2v3 against all other teams

[slow mountain]

fcar nerfed too much

[hardy bridge]

I think you just hate light

[pseudo jetty]

BUFF THE RANGE OF THE CL-40, THE THING IS GARBAGE AS FUCK

[sharp kraken]

NO TO POWERRSHIFT FOR RANKED, THATS A BAD GAMEMODE. TERMINAL ATTACK FOR RANKED IS BETTER

[honest pollen]

Why not just both

[umbral wyvern]

the stun gun nerd W or L? before the nerf, fcar spray from a moderate distance could still kill you

[versed cloud]

Man please no more ranked modes that shit is pure cancer. They gotta fix normal ranked first.

[sinful fog]

Too much modes for ranked = More ranked leaderboards OR various ranks/systems = Much more work to do. Devs should focus more on the problems we already got, and occasionaly drop such content bombs on us such new gamemodes so we dont lose all our mind in Cashouts and Bank It and leave the game.
Also, balancing Power Shift/Terminal Attack for ranked will be very hard in the terms of leaderboards, because they will probably need additional ones with their new ranks and ranking systems, and that will take like eternity. to make. Devs should work in their own pace so they dont overwork and get tired of simply thinking about the game itself.

[queen cloud]

ye guys. New account is soo much fun in quickcash :D. Prob got 10 milion reports by now. Also pay atention, the people with most dmg are controllers. This has been a trend in low sbmm lobbies, which tells me aimassist is too strong.
I'm not complaining or anything, it's just not fair to have computer assisted aim regardless of input. Apex legends is enough

[tame crag]

Power shift feedback really should be opened back up, I don’t think closing it because there is 50ish days worth of feedback. It also just makes it easier to provide feedback

[raven jacinth]

3rd game with ddos cheaters in ranked, its unplayable

[late nymph]

Ranked spawns are broken right now. You spawn 200 meters from boxes with no one fighting at them. It is all triple stacks right now.

[willow jewel]

heavy needs nerfs, no other class is so oppresive, unfightable and lame to play around

[burnt dawn]

Can you let us view steam profiles so we can add people/communicate more efficiently

[high wing]

remove auto aim from pc

[unique urchin]

Are you asking, or are you telling us that mouse and keyboard support is coming to consoles ?

[indigo sail]

Revives are fucking broken, most games I can’t see teammates when they’re dead and when I do find there trophies it won’t let me revive them

[opaque aurora]

i keep getting kicked from games for "unauthorized tools running" on linux. i'm not running any tools at all, all i have open is discord, firefox and steam.

[plush plume]

why is it that every time you get filled into an ongoing game you spawn on the other side of the map of where your team is and basically just spawn in the middle of an enemy team???????????

[sly wharf]

Buff the hammer for heavy. The swing is slow as hell. And when you undo the mess shield there’s a glitch where you can’t do an overhead leaving you open to get absolutely lit up

[zinc horizon]

Make movement faster

[jade kraken]

Seoul needs a huge rework. It doesnt work with spawnpoints and cashouts.

[upbeat ore]

I finished the terminal attack event and got the 10 games played, but it still says the call me gesture is locked. It just seemed to not register and it doesn’t matter if I play more games, it will just always be locked

[zinc carbon]

Yeah but it already one shots Light if you do an overhead hit

[queen cloud]

yes. It's actually disgusting.
Just jump someone with rpg+lewis = insta kill no chance to fight back/free kill.
No matter what mistake he makes, can always use dome/mesh. A class with 350hp and shields should never have more dps than a medium and a 140dmg rpg on top.
No skill, brainless class.

[upper citrus]

nerf rpg and lewis and heavy is fine (big nerfs, not slight nerfs)

[sharp jasper]

Please add glitch barrels

[unreal bolt]

the latest matchmaking update is the worst update this game has ever seen
theres no point in playing ranked when i lose 2 bars of progress even after qualifying for the 2nd round and the only way to get any elo is to get to the final round constantly which is impossible with randoms who have double digit iq

[rotund skiff]

I'll mix it up and add some positive feedback in here: I think matchmaking for gold+plat has been massively improved (from my personal experience) and really enjoy the new game mode. Enjoying the additional levels in the battle pass since I was maxed before. Rank change visibility is also a lot better. I'd love to see more map-specific stats (e.g. win rate per map) in the career section. Overall really having fun with friends playing this game

[terse lark]

i really like the new gamemode

[coarse junco]

If you guys do not fix the damn sword melee lunge not registering im literally gonna go insane its been forever and no fix FIX THIS BS BRO I AM LOSING MATCHES/TOURNAMENT'S CAUSE OF THIS BS 3rd time sending this

[dense skiff]

Matt Lowe needs to find a new profession. How can you loose second round in a lobbies with every team full diamond WHEN I'M PLAT and still go down 3? And then in other games WHILE I'm diamond vs. plats and golds I can loose second round and get an up one. It makes literally 0 sense. I go from being top 5k to 9k in TWO GAMES. Everyday, since the update, I have de-ranked and then ranked back up, and there is no consistency at all in why this happens. I literally won three tournaments in a row yesterday and now I'm back down to plat 1 after loosing 3 games in round 2. And as an added kick to the nose, 2/3 we lost in 3rd place and I still got 3 down arrows. **Matt Lowe is the most incompetent game designer I have ever come across. I could do a finer job than him before the next season begins. **

[slow saffron]

Please shorten the reach of the flamethrower, its so long! Also I would love some more glitching items/customizations!

[willow jewel]

nerf mines, nerf rpg and lewis, nerf heavy in general, fix momentum on jumpads (in map ones), fix hitreg in general/melee, stop lowing the skill cap by removing tech, fix the sliding issues, make dash not get ruined by desync, add a random option when selecting skins/outfits, let us create custom outfits, let us customize the randomization button(if added) to choose between select skins/outfits,

[neon rune]

lol i'd love to see you use the sword and find out how "no skill" it is

[distant granite]

Buff lights and increase time for cashout

[lime fable]

I think they should buff akm range and revert fcar to what it was before and buff other classes too no more nerfs please

[floral plume]

ranked mode is cooked, I’m stuck at plat 1, I keep getting put up against diamonds and I will win first round and go down 1 or 2 it makes no sense

[golden rock]

bro listed both of the highest skill ceiling weapons in the game on a class that is hardest to play due to its' limited health and called them no skill smh my head

[sharp kraken]

theres pc assisted aim? what do you mean isnt that just on consoles?

[pliant lion]

Can we talk about the defib revive animation being see-through but not letting bullets pass through it? The short invincibility after a defib revive is already questionable, but being able to take cover behind someone that's being revived doesn't make sense to me. The defib is already so strong it's a no-brainer gadget to choose and not having invincibility after a revive or sitting behind the animation likely won't influence that in any way. This thing has lost me multiple matches because I'm shooting at someone who's trying to ninja revive, sometimes they manage to survive because they get the ninja revive off and the animation absorbs all my bullets. IMO ninja revives shouldn't pay off if there's an entire team shooting at you, especially considering the long TTK in this game it's often impossible to kill someone before they get their defib revive off.

To me it feels like a bug but I mostly want to know if it's intended or not.

[untold haven]

for the love of god please let me copy and paste cosmetic load outs

[zinc carbon]

Fcar has higher dps... also Heavy is not a brainless class while alot of medium is just getting into a group and spamming healing

[fossil hawk]

give m-11 slightly better hipfire, give v9s less visual recoil (thing bounces all over the place and i gotta aim with the hitmarkers i rarely get) and uhhhh replace rpg with something not as lame

[tame pivot]

heavy has higher HP which means that the TTK of the FCAR vs heavy is higher than the lewis vs medium

[lilac mango]

add a sorry to the wheel... i failed the clutch

add a "you're cracked" to the wheel too

[queen cloud]

Typical heavy main. Strongest class in the game and comes here complaining about light 🤣
skill issue my friend... Especially if you die as a heavy to a light with a sword. Light+sword on the hands of a good players that knows how to animation cancel is quite strong, but has a heavy u literelly breath on him and he dies.

@zinc carbon It used to have a bit higher dps before they nerfed it. Now it's lower. only has 25bullets vs 47 on lewis and heavy has rpg that inflates ttk when you start fight with it. On a "tank" with 350hp + shields it's not fair whatsoever.

Updated ttk charts: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ud7Rdl3AgMw9mmfDwW2LtDMnzZQ9IIhnqSE4ivsaMTs/edit#gid=2136619021

[rotund rock]

+1 on adding "sorry" to the wheel!

[wheat wyvern]

A class that has:
350 hp
3 options for shields (mesh, dome, barricade) 2 of them you can shoot through (suck it barricade head glitch)
An RPG
The best weapon arsenal out of every class

Plus I love how you decided to show just body damage numbers for Lewis gun, then you show crit damage for fcar. Lewis gun does 38 crit damage, which is 5 more higher than 33 crit damage. Let's also not forget that fcar only had 25 rounds while Lewis gun has 47. Lewis gun out performs fcar

Heavy is more brain dead than the other 2 classes. It's just been proven

[obsidian otter]

With the new terminal attack event I got all the rewards but it won’t give me the legendary shirt

[willow jewel]

ofc its the pilgrammed player 💀

[cold bolt]

you can equip equipment skins to multiple loadouts at once, but I'd also like the same functionality for style category stuff, it is very annoying to do it individually

[high wing]

fix the worthless servers that has 2 seconds delay for everything, a faced paced fps cant have 15 hz servers

[violet elbow]

give shotguns across the board more structure/wall damage

makes them more viable at map prepping and will give Light another way of breaching walls with the double barrel and would make breaking mines easier on the class thats generally at the highest risk of stupidly dying to chip damage from a mine

[broken lake]

Make mines have 5 HP instead of 50 please 🙏

They are mines, not walls. They do not need to have a third of light's health.

[unreal bolt]

exactly they should bring back the ranking system from before the recent update
its impossible to rank up rn because even if you make it to the 2nd round you still lose 2 or 1 progress bar and previously you would usually gain one progress bar for that so if you played 3 games and got eliminated in the 2nd round each time before the update you would've gotten 3 progress bars but now in that same scenario you would lose around 5 progress bars which is an 8 progress bar difference in just 3 games with the same scenario and it just doesnt make any sense
its a shame because i was actually looking forward to grinding to diamond 1 this season but now im probably gonna be stuck at diamond 4 for the rest of the season

[upbeat ore]

^

[zinc carbon]

How does it have the "best weapon arsenal" with 2 shotguns that no one uses and a sledge thats only good for powershift? And Medium is a support class all you do is use healing beam and get in a group, and acting loke heavy is the most used class (which it isnt) is unfair?

[pseudo wind]

please bring back unranked tournament. The other pub modes does not match up with how good unranked tournament was. Quick cash is just a grief fest. In unranked tournament people actual tried to win, there was a satisfaction in qualifying and winning the final.

[slow saffron]

Can we add polls here or have an official Google form/website to submit these to? It feels like we are talking to the void here.

[past cypress]

• even if you are in gold you still lose 2 bars on the first round and 1 bar on the second

[bitter coyote]

Why am I losing 3 arrows in ranked on the FIRST ROUND, this game is so fucking horrible dude. There is not consistency, MM is still horrible, this game will burn to the ground and at this point it fucking deserves it

[torpid pawn]

Guys. Hi. What's going on I can't pick up my final award in the new event. What the hell? Am I doing something wrong? I can't take away the emotion and the final hoodie with it. I'VE DONE EVERYTHING. I played 10 games in the new event, they gave me everything except emotions and the legendary hood.

[halcyon dock]

U need to play 14. Its bugged and shows 10

[dull elm]

Check light chats
80% in there are dagger mains and they're very very very upset lmao
And I get it, so please do something about it

[quick coyote]

yeah, quick cash is just trash

[obtuse fable]

literally have the same problem and literally NO ONE, even the CMs are mentioning this or helping at all. It's just a simple Contract. How can this not get hotfixed in 1 day ??

[hardy bridge]

NERF NERF NERF NERF EVERYTIHNG I DONT LIKE

[arctic bramble]

put ranked back to the way it was.. nobody asked for the ranked change

[sonic wigeon]

That sounds weird, I have got knocked out after the 2nd round and got + bars everytime.

[upper citrus]

Everything besides the mine nerf is warranted lol. Idk why people get so upset with nerfing genuine affronts to game design. Who needs teamplay when I can 1v3 on heavy. It’s fine tho just buff everything else that’s already well balanced to compete and power creep the game into oblivion ( @short dagger reference )

[proper chasm]

Everything feels like it's been over corrected just a bit too much

FCAR a needed nerf but lost 3 damage to account for the 5 extra bullets but now has a worse DPS than the AK a gun with nearly 40 bullets

Stun gun a needed nerf but it went too far and now when I get stunned I nearly never notice it happening it needs to regain it's Utility loss

Invisibility/Cloak it's visual shimmer was fixed but it's max view distance was also increased

Barricades fixed the head glitching heavy meta (Of which I fully used) but it was made too big and now can't be used in a lot of areas

Ranked supposedly made the SBMM tighter but now everyone is deranking because we lost 1 of the ladders and the points system wasn't adjusted to compensate

[hearty marten]

I think it is an issue with hidden MMR. I have a friend I frequently queue with who is hard stuck plat 1. I am diamond 3 and even when we make round 2 I get 1 up arrow and he gets 2 down arrows because game thinks he shouldn't be climbing

[broken lake]

Sledge is by far the best melee weapon, just be good with goo gun tech.

The auto shotty is also still a stromg option.

The slug sucks ass. It should be buffed

[zinc carbon]

I say nerf cloak again /j /dont sue me

[torpid sky]

THIS ^
And it should be just normal mine when u step on it it triggers not proximity fking mine

[remote loom]

please don't tell me they disabled the xbog game bar overlay

[quick coyote]

**Focus on competitive play **
just because something is balanced for comp play doesn't mean casuals suffer what it does
is that it allows good players to grow and casual players to learn, we dont need things to be balanced for the casuals
Embark marketed this game as a possible esport and as of rn they butcher it by making one class irrelevant or one class way to strong

[gleaming summit]

when get the sword exploit cheater get banned? or killswitch this fucking bugged sword, ppl stream it with this holy fuck, Embark team is afk for months

[sharp jasper]

Buff data reshaper

[jaunty rivet]

Still a bug where it says “ALEIEN INVASION” stuck on my screen the whole tourny

[violet basin]

can we have some way to link the expressions of all my characters? its annoying to change each one separately

[fossil hawk]

reduce horizontal recoil for the m60, its TTK is already terrible

[storm siren]

Fcar can shoot farther and easier to control recoil,
I main medium with fcar and I’ve 1v1’d heavies multiple times and won

[tranquil bolt]

thank u embark for the tourney changes this update ...... love u 4ever

[silver sparrow]

I should not be going down in ranks if teammates disconnect during a match or if I start the tournament with only 2 teammates. Almost impossible to win 2v3v3v3

[celest anchor]

can you guys make it a little easier to level up the data reshaper? it feels insanely slow to gain xp with.

[slender hazel]

TONE DOWN SBMM IN QUICKPLAY THIS ISN'T COD

[tulip juniper]

Join terminal attack with only one other teammate, leave and get a 30 min suspension

[violet elbow]

the SBMM in question

[sharp snow]

There NEEDS to be a “sorry” option on the wheel

[upper citrus]

Why would I ever need to play with my team when I have a Lewis gun, rpg, and an instant 300hp shield

[teal minnow]

Revert 24 players to 48 in ranked later on it was better imo. I understand why you guys made it 24 players and it's been more equal in ranks since the update. I would like to see 48 player ranked again late on

[prisma sun]

add fucking tdm or something

[unreal bolt]

from what i've seen on this channel its very inconsistent - some people like me complain that they lose progress bars even after qualifying for the 2nd round while others gain progress bars in he same scenario regardless of the rank

[south gale]

So now I could throw games just to derank cause I hit diamond and keep all my rewards? Seems kinda stupid to allow dropping out of ranks then lol. ESPECIALLY cause you can lose a teammate and not get loss forgiveness. Y should the team you were on get punished for that? If that specifically doesn’t get fixed idk who else is going to keep playing this game actually

[ionic panther]

its called the revolver

[sharp jasper]

Add glitch barrels

[keen light]

Yes

[golden rock]

So the wierdest thing just happened to me. My game crashed during a tournament game and I managed to get back and we still won that round, but right after it ended I got booted from the game and got a suspension (that was already at 1/9 minutes so basically like I was kicked from the game before the round started) I am not really sure if that is a bug, but for sure feels like something not intended to happen, happened

[valid moat]

please?

[cinder ridge]

Good play too

[brittle obsidian]

pretty sure theres a different problem in this statement.....

[willow jewel]

the only point you can make with that is mines, and thats solely becus i heavily dislike how they play and believe they are bad for the game

[mental dagger]

It’s based on the position if you go through at second place and then come last that’s bad but if you win and come third it’s less on the loss

[hearty marten]

It's not just based on that. I have a friend I queue with often who is hard stuck plat 1 and I am diamond 3. In round 2 finishes we get varied amounts of arrows and I have gotten +1 arrow while he has gotten -2 arrow. He's even gotten -3 arrows for round 2

[daring fossil]

the seam for the animated texture on this skin should have probably been put on the bottom of the barrel, just saying

[modest shuttle]

I'm getting annoyed that the game is forcing me to play contestants I don't like playing to satisfy "challenges". It isn't a "challenge" to play two rounds as a type of contestant I don't like.
EDIT: Especially when after playing two rounds, its actually only registered one round.

[wheat wyvern]

@zinc carbon Wdym two shotguns no one uses, my guy they're the two best shotguns in the game! If a heavy isn't running Lewis gun (for some reason) , they're running SA1216 or KS-23. Sledge I wouldn't use in comp personally, but in quick cash? All day. Super fun when you play differently. People don't suspect it.

Medium is too well rounded. It doesn't need both healing beam AND defibs. Kinda dumb decision making on that one.

@storm siren
Comparing a red-dot sight to iron-sights is kinda lame. And not so much after the recent nerf it got. AKM feels so much better than fcar now. And plenty of us 1v1'd heavies and both won and lost, but it doesn't change the stats of the weapons. OP only showed body damage for Lewis gun from a screenshot of a Google search, but showed the full report of fcar on an elitist website. Lewis outperforms fcar on damage, but that's it really.

[gleaming bobcat]

I think its good where it is.

[uneven rampart]

@dense ocean @paper jackal and Myself are joining up to vouch for an Ashbringer weapon for Heavy as a sledgehammer skin.

I'm sure Blizzard mind the cross references.

[dense ocean]

I'm in

[cold bolt]

please fix melee, you can't even lunge with hammer anymore

[lime fable]

Can bad light players stop playing the game, u have zero impact on team i don’t understand whats fun falling over again and again, if u cant hack it please stop it’s infuriating constantly losing due to 4 of my tm8s playing light sniper

[south gale]

2 min left and no more vaults spawn…. Niceeee great ranked game

[novel zephyr]

Can we please do something about balancing the match with leavers? In Terminal Attack, every time someone leaves, the game never fills the spot. I have leavers in 80% of my games, and it always ends up 5v4.

[true harness]

I forget if I ever posted this feedback, but I just want to say, as someone who doesn't even use light much, you guys took the "fun" class that is lights, and absolutely destroyed it. It's just not fun anymore. You're turning the game into a 2-class system, and that's simply not how it's supposed to be.

[novel lily]

get rid of the sniper on power shift. theyre all fucking pests who stand at the other side of the map. it requires no skill and the only way for a non sniper to get rid of them in most instances is to run all the way arcross the map from the platform and lose control

[stuck pumice]

ranked actually sucks. here’s why:
teammates don’t like the build you chose? disconnected.
teammates don’t like a play made?
disconnected
teamates unhappy with the way the game is going?
disconnected
what is even the point of trying to play ranked games when all my teammates are leaving early or at the beginning of the game? I can’t play by myself and the game won’t give me new teammates in ranked games. if I leave then i get penalized and my rank could go down. how is this fair at all to players who actually want to try to ascend in rank and are screwed by people leaving them high and dry

[unreal fossil]

Sadly it's a solo queue problem. What do you want Embark to enforce to prevent rage quitters ?

[wheat wyvern]

They've already put a penalty timer for leaving the new game mode early. That's not enough to stop players from quitting early sadly.

[ripe verge]

Can we talk about the ranked system. it bad and you know it, I top-frag 80% of my games and have dropped from the edge of D3 to mid plat1. Why because I can’t find good teammates. NO. Because I’m fighting three other teams at the same time, and the game rewards that? I don’t even want to talk about the sham that solo Qing is. I just don’t know if I can continue to play it at all.

[cedar haven]

I rarely get teammates who dc

[tough merlin]

Feel like each update is making performance worse not better >.>

[junior grotto]

two teams gething together 1 team fight with us other team got the cash they have to solve this shitty situation

[fossil hawk]

make the m-11 have the same damage as the xp-54, m-11 already has pretty mid hipfire and crazy horizontal recoil when aiming in
and also reduce the recoil of the 93r, thing literally has a foldable foregrip built in, AND A STOCK ON IT. and give it some glowing, sort of tritium sights or something, anything bruh, the throwing knives would be a more useful weapon to use, its crazy
edit: this will be a buff of 2 points of damage lol

[ember marsh]

the fcar NEEDS a buff, yall ruined it

[smoky jacinth]

Having EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION issues. Game unplayable even with the -d3d11 fix. never had a problem until patch.

[delicate marlin]

My game crashed but i rejoined. I lost a lot of rank it it banned me from playing for a bit even though i rejoined

[pseudo jetty]

You guys need to fix your latency issues. I’m going literally insane with the amount of times I die behind some form of cover. It’s beyond bullshit. This games infrastructure is just cracking at the seams. Phasing through the ground, latency issues, bugs galore with cashout boxes and cashout stations, inconsistent as shit grenade launchers, OP RPG

[empty shoal]

Yeah tru desync pretty noticeable

[rain ocean]

Revolver needs more tweaking, hit reg is so inconsistent with it and the drop off makes it terrible to play with, you pretty much have to shove it in people's faces to guarantee hits

[little pawn]

HARD NERF HEAVY ASAP ⚠️

[oblique notch]

I can agree with the desync issues being worse this patch, and they definitely need some work, but calling RPG overpowered as a light main is comical

[warm crown]

I love this game, add more t shirtsss pls , there is only 2, and I think the clothing as a whole has a lot of potential so I hope more clothes u can unlock just by playing the game continue to be put out

[reef jasper]

even casuals have regular hackers in them

[quick coyote]

[manic compass]

I think we should see more tank tops, would make it easier to show off the cool tattoos. The few tank tops we have are already awesome just imagine more colors

[heavy karma]

On controller I like to play heavy with the barricades. However it is hard to play with them in the midst of a firefight because when I go to switch back to my primary I end up attempting to pick up the barricades. This also happens in doorways or fighting around a freindlys statue.
To prevent this and make gameplay smoother I would love the ability to select priorities for these actions or bind my Y (or quick swap) to another button without “interaction” following it

[modest shuttle]

Stop. Giving. Me. Seoul. In. PowerShift.
NOBODY LIKES IT.

[tame crag]

I dislike the power shift cart track for Seoul, I don’t know what could be done better however I don’t like that on some matches you just entirely won’t fight in spots of the map.

In Skyway and Horizon this isn’t an issue at all, as you use most of the map on both teams, on Monaco you technically don’t but the whole map is very similar so it matters less.

Seoul has a wide variety of terrains and I find most of the time the match ends up staying in the center building, which by the way, fantastic job this is certainly the most balanced map out of the box.

[sick schooner]

My suggestions for potential Light buffs to make them more viable.

1. Make lights intrinsically heal faster while out of combat (X %) just like how lights are 10%~ faster than the other two classes.
2. Revert the previous nerf to invis and buff dash
3. Added some sort of support gadget like a AoE heal bomb or some sort of light overshield sort of gadget.

[hardy falcon]

Adding the last two pages to the battle pass without warning to people who paid for the battle pass is wrong.

I budgeted my time to ensure I would complete the battle pass. You've added two pages and there is not enough XP in the game between the masters circuit and the remaining dailies to finish these two pages. They should have been in since the beginning and I would have done more dailies.

[delicate notch]

I love many things you do with the game Embark. Also the new gear and battle pass extension, very grateful for that. However, to start, Powershift... this is by far the most unfun mode for me to play. Just.... awful. Having to play this thing for the Circuits was absolutely annoying. And yeah... the same old story: Light I really hope you are planning on significantly buffing this class and fixing weapons' hit registration (dagger and sword e.g.). All 3 specializations that Light has are fun to play imo, they also enable different weapons. I agree that invis + stun was annoying and smth needed to be done about it. Please revert the changes made towards cloak, it does NOT need 33% activation and it does NOT need to be more visible. People have to learn to be aware of the cues of a roaming Light. It's normal having to learn things. I for one know exactly when someone is trying to sneak up to me. And as if it wasn't already discouraging enough to play ranked, I could probably not even find anyone on this server who would like to queue with me bc I play Light. Everyone says no Light. That, I think, is a sign, that the class needs buffs, not nerfs.

[queen cloud]

Everyone says no light because most people on this server are not tht great at the game.
Unless you like trying to find people to grip top 500 it doesn't really matter what class u play.
And even then, light is still viable I'd you know how to play it.

No way in hell I'll play heavy. It's just not fun even if it's the best for ranked. Light or medium only.

[carmine warren]

Absolutely love revolver, but yeah the hit registration is terrible. It would be such a fun gun if it could just land its shots

[half jackal]

light has the highest DPS weapons in the game and the ability to outrun both the other classes with ease it does not need buffs, learn to use and abuse your speed and dmg and you will be fine

[undone eagle]

honestly best improvement to the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8L4E45rOu0

[nimble bane]

Could you guys add a little bit more recoil to the fcar. I don’t think it has enough

[unique nimbus]

Sad to see power shift monaco 2014 still not getting spawn ballanced. Team spawning opposite to the cathedral doors is still loosing just about always. It's getting to the point where if people see monaco and they're on the predominantly losing side, they start leaving and if we spawn on the doors side team then it's a guaranteed game win

[hasty citrus]

would be cool if we could sacrifice a specialization for an extra gadget

[lofty anvil]

theres nothing embark can do to fix that its not their fault the average playerbase kinda sucks

[pseudo jetty]

It does 90% of a lights health, 55% of a mediums health and 33% of a heavies health with a click of a button that heavies all use as their primary basically. It’s silly at this point

[tall kernel]

Idk why people are saying light is not good.. It just takes a little more caution and skill to play with considering the how much life they have. Stun gun is still a great option as it can stop steal from even further away which is huge.. invis is a little harder to use but it’s far from unusable.. the only thing I would like to see is 2 grappling hooks as no one uses that gadget and feel like it will bring players to use it.. I love that lights have sonar grenade now, it’s always been my favorite.

[jagged cedar]

can a dev make dagger usable again?

[stiff wolf]

Its already been nerfed.. it used to 1 tap lights. Its very preventable KNOWING how often its used. heavy can counter with mesh, dome, and barricade. Medium can counter with aps, and lights just need to use caution which is already part of their game. I think its in a good spot.

[spice stag]

would love a dev to address the silent gutting of the dagger

[real moon]

buff throwing knives, revolver and make dagger usable again, also bring back breach charge doing max damage if it's exploded early 🥺

[delicate notch]

I agree, it's avoidable.

[misty jasper]

Yes there is? isn’t there like another month left of the battle pass too

[nimble vale]

Probably been said already but: The sword hitreg has gotten a lot worse since the latest patch, there's also a new bug that doesn't allow the Light player to slide after lunging.

[oblique notch]

they arent the rewards you initially played for btw (they're extra, free cosmestics)

[nova veldt]

Nerf heavies dash, it shouldnt do 350+ dmg on single target. make it only dmg once per target

[topaz latch]

Can anyone tell me why I got to spend on vallya encryption when I already bought battlepass?

[unique nimbus]

Anybody actually enjoy Terminal Attack? The constant loosing is getting real boring real fast

[severe comet]

Change the ranked system to were when the game puts starts a terny and it’s only you and one other person or your team leave and it’s only the player that it doesn’t penalize you? It’s like the you guys put in play that if you’re left alone you have to perform as if they’re is still teammates with you

[pseudo jetty]

they nerfed it 10 damage and its still spammed constantly, but yes, thats balanced

[hexed summit]

Hello I just came here to cry about goovement being gone. Does anyone share my sadness here?

[zinc carbon]

Thats cool but the light is the offense it wouldnt work for a healing bomb but it would be great for medium (cause its the support class(

[lofty anvil]

how are you gonna sit and complain to the devs that your teammates suck. how in the world is that embark's fault

[solid orchid]

I like terminal attack.

[willow jewel]

matchmaking

[bitter flame]

looks fine to me he should probably look for temp or perma premades

[south gale]

They need to balance the game for leavers in all ranked modes… also just had the worst glitch EVER… no more vaults spawned with like 2:30 left on the clock… is it cause the vaults were planted in the cash outs at like the same time? Idk but it was dumb and cost me 3 down arrows lmao. Ridiculous

[vagrant bronze]

I'm sure this has been asked before but what's up with the structural damage objective in the pro challenges

[severe comet]

Like how apex doesn’t penalize you when teammates leaving mid match

[quick coyote]

Rank should be protected if teammates disconnect and permanently just decide to leave or get kicked. I shouldn't go down 3 arrows because of someone else deciding to disconnect.

[queen cloud]

It's soo funny to see people complain about team mates and matchmaking.
I actually found matchmaking to be pretty good after season 2. But you can't expect to get carried, you'll have to carry yourself if you want good results

[hearty hemlock]

i feel like embark doesnt have a long term vision for balance, it all feels like week-to-week reactions to chats like this

[wraith igloo]

Yeah the track on seoul needs a rework for sure

[night surge]

+1

[quaint pebble]

I think the ping system could be updated, right now it feels clunky and is heavily magnetised to objective. I’m using apex as the benchmark because they honestly have the best ping system imo but it feels so much more precise. It’s not a dealbreaker but a more accurate and precise ping system and one with more depth would make solo queue and the game as a whole a lot better. Text chat as well

[slate epoch]

welcome to skill issue chat, where we got um guy mad about FCAR and uhh yeah

[heavy karma]

Something constructive to add would be that premade squads have a much easier time crushing the lobby compared to solo queue teams putting them in with other premades or high skill lobbies would balance it out a little

[drowsy stump]

Medium needs recoil fairness or at least increase damage again. Lights shouldn’t be able to use a smg far off and shred me. While I fight recoil to hit him.

[floral phoenix]

Please revert FCAR

[cinder ridge]

ffs remove low grav. the mantle and terrain traversal is bad enough on its own

[severe comet]

Change the ranked system to were when the game puts starts a terny and it’s only you and one other person or your team leave and it’s only the player that it doesn’t penalize you? It’s like the you guys put in play that if you’re left alone you have to perform as if they’re is still teammates with you

[junior dawn]

attackers have WAY too big of an advantage in the new gamemode. you need to do something to help defenders in some way.

[ancient heron]

maybe the attacker who is planting the key can have a small animation (similar to a cashout steal) in order to place the key in the terminal, rn it feels like attackers can easily place the key and dip

[cerulean echo]

door functionality can be improve upon and it is easy to die to them

[upper citrus]

I really hope we slow down on the amount of primaries being added. There are going to be a lot of repeats and clone weapons if we don’t.

Assuming we get 1 for each class again for S3, I’d hope we get

Light: gimmick/niche weapon

Medium: gimmick/niche weapon

Heavy: more normal weapon/gun

After that I don’t think we will need any more primaries for a while, more gadgets and specials would be nice instead

[drifting pawn]

^ please fix

[daring fossil]

there's enough XP from the masters challenges alone to get 9 out of the 10 unlocks on the bonus pages.

[jagged cedar]

make dagger a playable weapon please

[pseudo jetty]

This game also has the literal worst spawns ever. My team is at the cashout, I coin, and I spawn across the map. Fucking why?

[radiant canyon]

Skill issue

[solemn sedge]

So um, I don’t think the devs ever check this channel. They ain’t listening, I don’t mean to be rude but unless they say otherwise we all talking to a brick wall. :/

[ebon tendon]

🎶 One of these things just doesn't belong here🎶

[inner sparrow]

Add support for mouse and keyboard for consoles like Fortnite or COD have! 🙏

[glossy bough]

Almost certainly because the other two are partied together, I think matchmaking matchmakes parties based on highest ranked player

[sly wharf]

Buff the hammer for heavy. It’s dogshit now

[hardy bridge]

they never even touched it lmao

[pseudo jetty]

ok kiddo

[carmine thistle]

Can glitch honestly last 8 Seconds instead of 5

[versed cloud]

Literally have to reach the final round now to get any positive traction in ranked, at this point it's making it less fun to play as a whole

[lyric junco]

I mean I won’t say no to a buff hammer is the only thing I use lol make it 1 hit medium lmao

[hardy bridge]

alt fire buff by 10 so you can quick melee to kill after

[silver sparrow]

4th tournament today that I have started with only one teammate

[feral shell]

Snipers absolutely have to be removed from TA. They become one shot kills in late game. Either that or increase health regen to 150. They're definitely holding the mode back rn. Turrets are a bit OP too but more managable.

[cinder fable]

i think defib should be limited to one per team

[graceful pike]

I absolutely love the new gyro controls good job on them.
I would just prefer to have adjustable control of sens with scoped weapons, they are a bit hard to do gyro flicks now. But in current state beautiful

[hushed sky]

If you guys are so much interested on balancing the SO CALLED GAME - WHY IS CHARGE SLAM STILL IN GAME? - That is the ONLY SPECIALISATION WHICH HAS ON DEMAND INSTANT KILL/DMG CAUSING ONES....Rest All specialisation HELPING THE PLAYER IN NON LETHAL WAY/NON INSTANT KILL ESQUE....

[abstract narwhal]

any emabark dev pls explain this dogshit rank system to me losing without a 3 man in round 2/3 does not warrant 2 downs espiecially when i perform well its bullshit to lose so muxh rank when theres so many bs last second ways to lose and now that theres only 3 rounds i lose rank unless i get to the finals or win where is the logic

[frail osprey]

So if you go round 2 you lose elo?

[versed cloud]

Doesn't everybody? You only go up if you get to the final round now

[shy swan]

SUGGESTION:

• nerf heals and give heavy smoke grenades. also let thermal vision show team colors. and make power shift platform not move when your contesting the point. buff the glitch mine.
• add terminal attack perminantly to the game after some tweaks

IDEAS not suggestions:

• specialization or gadget that randomizes loadout (or the gadget?) slot on use
• healing bomb for light? or healing device or drone? stationary or mobile?
• semtex? light only? (timed sticky grenade)(smaller radius?)

[earnest sierra]

the finals isn't officially supported on linux but i really hope that embark does officially make the finals supported on linux..

while i know that this is going to be complicated and comes with obstacles to be done because of the well known ass shit called EAC i hope that embark don't give up on linux players and community they may seem small compared to others but they're the best and the cleanest💙

love to embark devs♥️

(I'm a windows player myself🫡)

@slow saffron actually the only thing that doesn't make me fully switch to linux is the finals lol

i have seen linux doing good with the finals in the mean time but the last update bring a lot of bugs with EAC kicking linux players randomly from the game but before that i heard it was totally fine..i don't know if that was intentional by embark but maybe they was testing it idk maybe the official linux support is near? Hopefully though they don't just say (nah linux support is not worth it) like other greedy ass companies ehm ehm(riot)i have high hopes with embark devs♥️

[slow saffron]

I would love this! I had to purposely install windows to run this and other games due to anticheat and windows requirements. On popos the game would keep hanging but works totally fine on windows. Linux support would be incredible!

@earnest sierra yes it was running and we'll until the Easter patch, then for me the crashes started happening. But others were running the finals with no problems. I couldn't get any support though because the OS is unofficially supported. Fingers crossed that changes!! 🤞

[night wave]

nerds game

[glacial sierra]

make the timout 3hrs or something.

[jagged cedar]

make dagger a weapon again

[turbid dagger]

Left the game 1 month after launch because woke swedish management refused to region lock servers from famously cheating countries because ✨Xenophobia✨. Something tells me they still didn't listen and now this is the results. It is reaching "new world" in terms of players in 1/3 of the time

[floral prairie]

As a light main rebuffing cloak would be amazing and so helpful along with rebuffing stun gun because it’s basically useless

[dull otter]

i personally think its related to the lack of viable weapons, and lack of another solid ranked mode. Not going to lie playing beta was kinda expecting to see a surplus of weapons not seen there to add more variety and game kinda felt repetitive fast. I think once they get more weapons and a new ranked mode game would start to thrive again. Just feels like its lacking a true competitive mode atm

[rain ocean]

I kinda agree on the ranked part, ranked solo queue suuuuucks right now, it's one of the drivers of my dropping it season 1 after finishing the BP. I picked the game back up in season 2 and have been playing it every day so far though since power shift and the new modes are super fun. Queue times are atrocious sometimes though. Ranked needs a more transparent MMR and an actual SBMM system so I don't get into games with plats as gold and have bronzes on my squad.

[upper saddle]

A love letter to the current ranked system we have and my hopes that we won't shift to a worse ranked system in the future or this ends up as a game that overhauls it's ranked system every season-

As it stands the ranked system when understood is one of the best in any game not just shooters, understanding the system which took me and friends weeks of experimentation to comprehend the system using multiple accounts and constantly tracking our up and down arrows the ranked system we have now is what best reflects 'The Finals' as a game where skill is difficult to calculate as the difference between victory and defeat can be one well-timed Goo/Frag Grenade.

Currently it's based entirely off of wins and losses, fortunately wins and losses are an easy way to calculate skill where as what if we got points for every action we did in the game... such as scoring kills and stealing cashouts? How would we calculate rank deserved from blocking damage with goo grenades or mesh shield, being a distraction for our teammates with the riot shield? How do we make sure healers are ranking up along side they're fragging allies? just as importantly- how do we ensure people can't exploit these gain rates?

I would like You guys at Embark to make this system more understood and see the community's feedback on a more transparent stance on this system before going forward and moving to a new ranked system which could hurt the ranked progression of many players, knowing that there was a hidden MMR Value that influenced up and down arrows and sharing that knowledge has helped so many players understand and appreciate this system more than the last one... there are some players who want a different, easier system but what's the point of a competitive ranked system if it's easier? It should be difficult to climb to and hold onto high ranks, tis the spirit of competitive play after all.

[true harness]

Latency. Valid complaint. RPG. Not even close to a valid complaint. It's very much NOT OP.

[strong sorrel]

best game ever

[turbid dagger]

Majority of people dont wanna play a game with cheaters killing you from hundreds of meters.

[slate epoch]

try moving around, you'll be harder to hit (i don't encounter cheaters much... if you're getting wasted all the time it might be you)

actually catching up on chat a bit... it doesn't even look like you play this game? left 1 month after launch? why are you even here then?

[onyx hound]

m11 nerf today please, damage drop off, anything

[hasty citrus]

I swear every plat player i get have terminal brain cancer with down syndrome and refuse to play in team when im in diamond

[vapid dagger]

[mint lintel]

Heavy feels unbalanced because of the RPG, it just drops you down to too much health and straight up retires lights while lewis and M60 have higher dps but low handling and lower mobility. Turn RPG into a mobillity weapon.
give us TF2 rocket jump - damage to 50 ammo to 2 self to 20 give it better vertical movement over horezontal(eg when you shoot yourself up you cant move around while mid-air, so if you get charge and slammed then its basicly your fault.

Glitch grenade just sucks, the only 2 things that its meant to counter are two temp shields and the effect does not last long enough. In most cases its faster to spray your weapon and reload then it is to pull out the grenade throw and go back to gun.
Rework tracking dart to be a EMP coil that lasts for the same amount of time, cant dodge it, puts enemy out of action for valuble time so, making it more worth it than just throwing a grenade. could remove glitch G if you do this but its your oyster.

give smoke to heavy, give sonarG to med

rework Heavy GL to a sticky bomb like the softball from titanfall 2, grenade sticks to any surface including the player and detonates with a fuse after attaching.

AKM and FCAR are balanced stop complaining

hot take fire fr

True gonna use this to skip slowmo

[naive fulcrum]

hot take, give smoke to every class, if every class has pyro, every class should have smoke

[quaint badger]

the new ranked system is weird, going down 3 each time even if its second round and sometimes only going up 2 for a win? the only way to rank up is to consistently win each game you win, i went on a 5 win streak yesterday and still didnt rank up, which is hard considering a lot of people dont have three stacks to play with

[dry kiln]

Your only counting pc players there bro. Your leaving out PSN Network and XBOX so pc players are only a fraction. Thus your not proving anything by posting the pic.

[rough herald]

APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem (Day 22 of asking)

Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. also seens we're talking about powershift, its basically impossible to destroy the aps not only because the wall but also the fact that it can be replace instantly due to no cooldown on destroy
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever

Suggestion: what i want to see
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 3 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have

Suggestion: what i would like to see but ok without
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime
. cool down on destroy

(embark pls fix )

[cloud jungle]

Can we get ladders without automatic climbing already? I've died more than once because they don't work like the ziplines do

Also
FIX MELEE SWING AND SLIDING

[fleet adder]

Womp womp skill issue

[slate epoch]

oh we complaining about free content now? "how dare you give me more stuff" smh

[tawdry adder]

if you're going to have ranked take so much rank away after a loss then do something about trash ass diamonds playing on alts to make other people lose rank. Thanks!

[hazy rapids]

When I run APS I feel like I'm cheating. I always keep it in my pocket for any GL users and it completely destroys their playstyle. Imo a cooldown in between shots could be helpful as well.

[hasty citrus]

takes a whole day to farm a single bonus item from the bp wtf

[worn horizon]

If they nerf m11 I will not play this game anymore

[zenith scarab]

💀

[merry totem]

I'll be glad when they keep Terminal Attack because that can be the 5v5 mode. I need quick cash to stay so I have an option when I don't want to think so hard in Cashout (yes, my brain is this tiny). I'm cool with whatever, though. Also, my experience with solo bank it was just third, fourth, fifth, sixth partying... I was probably playing with a bunch of relatively low level casuals just running in but I wasn't surprised when Embark ditched it.

[rough herald]

Heavy effective Health Point issue:
Note:

• what is effective hp? well its not the actually hp on the ui, thats your base health point.
  effective hp is the amount of damage needed to kill
• heavy have alot of ability that give him alot of effective hp like 750hp mesh shield, 300doom sheild, and unbreakable barricade. ON Top of the thing you already have like 350hp of heavy, heal beam and adding all that together is 1400 effective health not including heal beam

Suggestion: i have no idea how to fix this and this is the only good idea i have, even then i think its bad change

• cut all shield hp by 100hp but in retrun give it 1sec invisibility on activation
  . this will make the shield more offensive holpfully (don't give this to mesh

[quasi forge]

Is text chat in the works?

[floral prairie]

Lights don’t need a nerf. Plus m11 does have damage drop off

[feral bloom]

We need to have like weapon modification kits so we have like different set builds rather then embark breaking their heads over each specific attachment and balancing
Other users involved with planning: @umbral sedge @quick coyote @drowsy zephyr

[round monolith]

I’ve completed the contracts and is shows me that i got the cns hoodie but it is not in the customize menu

[torn sand]

i feel the push to talk voice is odd, it keeps going after i let go

[proven trellis]

Bro this ranked system is so shit, and I'm not just saying this because I'm tilted over being hardstuck plat 4 for 15 games plus, but also that I've won two ranked tournaments and then followed them both up with a win in the first round of the next match and I STILL haven't ranked up. I was on 3 up arrows and then lost in the second round and now I'm at one down arrow again SMH. FIXED YOUR RANKED SYSTEM EMBARK

[jovial bane]

The Finals is doing good so far when it comes to the gameplay physics, and the endless onslaught of players fighting. There may be a couple of bugs but besides that it is a good game to play daily when given the chance. The ranked system could be refined a bit when checking your player stats and game wins by utilizing overall score to tell the player what they could improve to better their chances at ranking up. Rather than being left in the dark.

[patent sphinx]

Day 22 skill issued GL noob asked for dumb APS nerf, which no one need and want, when APS easy countered by Data Reshaper (especially after huge buff), or just simple ask teammate to shoot it. When we see feedback section with constructive suggestions, instead of whine and complains of noobs, who absolutely not understand in-game balance and can't get better?🤔

[spiral prairie]

Could we please please please lower the requirement for the "Deep Pockets" achievement? It takes an immense amount of game time to complete.

I currently have over 215 hours logged and have unlocked every single achievement besides "Heavy Hand" (need ~90 more wins) and "Deep Pockets" (~16mil/50mil). I'm not going to log another 460+ hours to the game just for this one achievement (I did the math) I mean cmon

[hasty citrus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1cks2s2/embark_hire_this_man/ embark should look at this. this guy spitting crazy ideas

[cloud jungle]

Let me slide after starting a melee swing, it broke in the latest patch.....

[signal root]

Now more than ever, we need to change the light’s sniper to a projectile weapon. It has been too strong of a pick in bigger team modes

[cyan wadi]

only in the finals

[rough herald]

"just simple ask teammate to shoot it" like i have teammate with a functioning brain and also i don't have a mic.
and why i ask for it is because of hard counter, those are just not fun in any game ever. everything should have a counter play no matter how small. like yeah fair data reshaper is a counter play but what about heavy and light?

@proper chasm it take 3 shot to distroy the thing and 3 shot to kill a medium, by the time i reload/shoot enough thay will just kill me in the time or like this one time that happen to me, an enemy medium was bm-ing me picking up the aps and placing it down again when im reloading

[proper chasm]

I do think the APS needs to take some sort of damage while it's in use but if you're a GL40 user you can shoot just out side of the ring and splash damage those fucking things to death.

I do the same thing with my rocket launcher

Well I can't say I've ever experienced the APS doing that and I play with the guy that uses the nade launcher so we work together to destroy it

[pale crane]

after making cloak visible, noisy, and nerfed, then stun gun nerf, this game is dead for Light players...

what's next ?
make Light run slower it's too fast
Light is too strong, low his dps,
Light have too much Hp, 2 shots are too much for kill him, give him 50HP

seriously, stop listening ppl who get pwned by Light ..or nerf all the game and make it smooth, and no fun

[turbid dagger]

Ps5 and Xbox players probably play something better and if they play the finals they turn off crossplay so they dont encounter cheaters from pc

[willow leaf]

Worst balanced game I’ve ever played

[smoky gust]

@patent sphinx

which no one need and want
no there are plenty of people, just because we don't post about it every day doesn't mean we don't exist

APS easy countered by Data Reshaper
data reshaper only has so much range, even after the buff
and its very situational, so you basically handicap yourself for trying to play the game
and you need to pick it at all times, just in case they run aps, which you have no way of knowing beforehand
leaving it it even more worthless if they dont

just simple ask teammate to shoot it
"ask the unreliable to be reliable"

When we see feedback section with constructive suggestions
looks pretty constructive to me
at least more constructive than this
skill issued GL noob asked for dumb APS nerf

not understand in-game balance
players being denied by a single gadget is not well balanced

can't get better?
i assume you're talking about the shooting outside the radius thing

might be interesting to @proper chasm too

i have plenty of clips where projectiles got destroyed even though they were outside the radius, or where you just couldn't shoot it no matter what
but even if you can, its not just about if you can destroy it, but also what effect it has until its gone (see replied message)

@patent sphinx "just 2v1 them"
doesn't sound very balanced to me
and you probably shouldn't force sweaty 3-stacks to be allowed to play the game

red canister doesn't even destroy it

find another way to lure foes
not like they can pick it up before chasing me
and sometimes you need to engage, then they just sit on it and you loose

you have listed your points, we explained why they don't work
just repeating it doesn't work now

[rustic grail]

Nerfs make ttk longer, and long ttk requires better team cooporation and brings worse solo experience. The most crucial problem is that it brings lots of frustration, making people always quit.

[dry kiln]

Stop trashing the game bro and get off the feedback channel if your not going to give real feedback.

[patent sphinx]

Heavy and light can just shoot it, (and they just do) you know? Anyone with 3,5 braincells left can. Your teammates without mic or cooperation, or you can't drop it with red canister, or be creative and find another way to lure foes to GL/destroy it, not a reason to nerf so viable gadget, for entire game, just bc of you uhm, uhm... Love GL and can't find teammates in LFG. World is not revolving around you, ok?

[severe pier]

i cant claim 2 of the rewars for the new game mode contracts for some reason

[vestal coral]

This game is becoming more and more rubbish, the servers are getting worse with each passing day, the cheaters and Smurf are increasing more and more, the general balance sucks, the sbmm is horrendous and very badly made, the ranked games are vomiting, the game is no longer entertaining or casual or competitive, it only entertains fucking fan boys. Wake up and get over it, you're doing a terrible job, you started off well but you're destroying a game with very high potential.

[rough herald]

World is not revolving around me? dude what are you on about? all im asking is for the aps to not hard counter my gun and tone it down to just a soft counter.
and the teammate part, they only shoot player and not gadgit and when they do its because they want to throw a frag and not because i can't do anything because of it.

a mesh shield for example, denal damage like the aps do but it have a limited amout of hp so it can only denal damage for so long, aps on the hand hand will stay up for ever.
and what you're saying finding creative way to counter is valid but the fact that i have to go out of my way just because of a gadgit bring way too much value for what the aps should worth

[spark shard]

what cool ideas, love them!

[glossy bough]

We need to see who is partied with who in the ranked scoreboard, this is important for getting video proof for people getting boosted by hackers as this is a very large demographic for hackers. Hitting these boosted accounts is how you get people to stop paying for boosts which would heavily cut into the motive to hack.

[prisma sun]

game is terrible to play without a team/casually

[charred ivy]

Move terminal attack to a mini-seasonal ranked mode, or anything similar, please. Lets see what this game mode can be instead of what this game mode clearly is not, which is uncoordinated bronzes running around dying

[turbid dagger]

I gave enough feedback at launch and for a month after everyday. They didnt listen, game is basically dead in a year

[umbral rampart]

Blocking a player should mute them entirely. No pings, no voicelines, muted in voice.

[unreal widget]

why is push to talk called that, when its a toggle

[misty jasper]

The arrows filled in is not your current progress shown.. it just tells you how much you’ve gone up by. 3 arrows up means you got a lot of positive gain towards your next rank. 1 arrow down means you lost a little bit of rank only.

[slate epoch]

the knife's lunge should be given infinite range and make heavy detonate on backstabs

[ornate lichen]

push to talk is push to talk

[severe pier]

i just played a game of terminal attack where it was just me vs a team of 5 the whole game

[patent sphinx]

"no there are plenty of people"
1st of all it was obvios hyperbolisation.
2nd, no, you noobtubers are actually very small amount of M/H, and there is always way to counter even strong gadgets, and it's not worth do nerf APS only for such small amount of playerbase (you overestimate your count) - (imo)

"So you basically handicap yourself"
You handicap yourself by equipping so strong gadget like Data Reshaper, which counter not only APS, but mines and turrets, even grenades in flight. And what about range complain, if you using GLs almost always come to close ranges where it is viable anyaway?

"ask the unreliable yo be reliable"
What is even about?

"look pretty constructive to me"
Not for me.
From what you decide that my crititism yours no so constructive suggestions, is an suggestion?

"players being denied by single gadget is not well balanced"
Again you not denied from single gadget which, not even every medium player run in loadout, but your inability to play with team or creative.

"i assume you're talking about the shooting outside the radius thing"
No, i'm not.

"just to 2v1 them, doesn't sound very balanced"
Playing as a team in teambased game, where cooperaion mandatory to win, not sound balanced? Especially for support class? Hmmm

Also GL falls in the weapon category (like revolver) where to outDPS enemies you need help with cover (Mesh Shield, or just cover)

"red canisters doesn't even destroy ot"
I'm aware. It was an e.g., in most cases APS placed on wall/ceiling, and even when you're solo (situation when you absolutely shouldn't be at), and can't destroy it now, you can get it from your way.
If you face it in open ground, what are doing in open ground with GL? That's sounds like wrong positioning and skill issue.
(C) Who wants - cease possibilities, who don't - cease excuses.

"you have listed your points, we explained why they don't work"
Well you listed your takes, i explained why they are invalid and wrong.
Questions?

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