👂┇game-feedback

[pseudo latch]

Dematerializer being a replacement for recon feels good. It feels like embark went “yeah we can’t make this fair, better to replace it with something else”.

I do hope there will still be room to add specializations over just swapping them out as they go.

@molten trail like I said, I’m open for revisions. 300 bullets dissapear fast when you’re firing 20 a second, and again, I want the spread wide. You wouldn’t be hitting 240 unless you’re right up against someone, and with the noise you’d be making, if they got that close, they’d be doing it to themselves.

[proud sparrow]

that would be cool is they add an auto-sprint option, this would be good.

[versed dagger]

Actually now that I think about it the new map actaully reminds me of glitch or wargames in titanfall 2. Both theming and design.

[timid pumice]

Im so glad I blocked that minigun guy so I never have to see another one of those minigun posts again

[supple compass]

I'd like ping to be a factor in matchmaking.
Not latency, but the ping button.
Match players who ping a lot with other players who ping a lot.

[vocal shadow]

1 good change to defibs that should be made if its not already to late to implement before the new season, and if it is, then maybe in a patch later on is a defib rejection option. so say one of your team mates revives you in the middle of a whole team shooting at them and in your direction, you have the option and a short time to asses the situation to accept the revive or not. i know this is already an option in bf4 already. so i don't understand why this isn't already an option in this game.

with the new changes to defib and how it will work, it could encourage griefing to a higher degree. intentional or not. where there is now a respawn timer, but from what has been seen on videos posted, there is no option to accept or deny the revive. in this situation exclusively, someone could run over and defib you, die and now your totem is being camped by 3 people ready to delete you from the match instantly as soon as you respawn with no recourse.

this is already currently an issue. however, at least it is currently instantly and you're not having your time wasted by watching 3 people camp your totem until you're force respawned by the game with no control over it. leading to unnecessary deaths and opportunities for people to troll or grief you.

please add the option to accept or deny revives from defibs in this game.

[vocal cave]

u can use pings to be toxic so I don't know if this really is a good thing 💀

[quick coyote]

where did you found balance changes? i cant see patchnotes
UPD: thank you, im glad they did of after half of year of us asking

[lilac pelican]

For the cosmetics that have Hoodies, could an option be added to have the hoods up/on your head and it takes away your head spot (obviously).

The one jacket that has bunny ears on it; id love to have those showing on my head 😂

[violet elbow]

no notes yet, but stuff like C4 Nerf, Defib Nerf and Recon being removed was shown by content Creators that got to playtest it
@quick coyote

[vernal swallow]

So can someone explain to me the new animations? Cuz they seem like inspects and they’re kinda long animations, but I think some people have said their reloads? It’s confusing to me since the m11 reloads super fast but the animation is long so I think their inspects right?

[pseudo latch]

Alright, how’s about as a revision:

• 200 round magazine
• 20 rounds per second, 11 damage per shot, 220 DPS

Better? Not enough?

[quick coyote]

either talk about game feedback, or don't talk at all here, thank you

[spark girder]

It’s insane that medium is going to get 3 charges of their dematerializer specialization according to the preview footage.

Heavy doesn’t even get to destroy 3 walls using c4 and rpg anymore as of season 2.

Medium no longer has any built-in weakness to offset their access to the best guns and utilities.

[robust ocean]

It’s called balancing. Heavy was like the #1 used character outside of medium. Gotta compromise somewhere

[cursive warren]

Gadget Change Feedback:

• I believe since you devs gave us lights Tracking darts & Recon sense, that heavies should get our Motion sensor.
The Motion sensor doesn’t serve any fluidity towards us lights and makes no sense for our class since we’re on the move constantly whereas Heavies are stationary and having a motion sensor added to their kit would make more sense.

The recon nade will be picked over the motion sensor via us lights so just move the motion sensor to the heavy class so it can gain utilization.

[bleak coral]

heavies ARE getting motion sensor

[tawdry mesa]

I’m totally shocked by the new update. With all the hype it even exceeds my expectations! Well done Embark

[mighty fossil]

BRO they removing the NUKES, WTF thats so annoying... like leave some space for fun! doesen´t have to be that balanced... if you place C4 on a throwable you cant detonate, how ridiciolous.. they could at least just adjust the damage it does...

[quick coyote]

bruh, I was joking lmaoo. here comes the fun police. where were you when there was beef brewing about nuke mains getting nerfed? heres some feedback: if there is still disconnecting issues in season 2 then the player base will fade after the honeymoon phase is over. almost every tourney round I play has at least one disconnect on a team. its not fun to win or lose that way and people will get fed up with it. especially since in rare occassions it wont even let you boot back into the match and you lose almost 1k ladder points

[fossil walrus]

They are leaving space for fun. Fun for everyone else in the lobby to not get deleted instantly by no skill having Heavies who rely on everything but their guns to get kills.

[knotty crow]

please embark, we need more lockers because there are too many cool items, and if possibile a random skin for the weapons

[crude brook]

damage taken from a grenade launcher should point to the person firing the grenade not the grenade itself

[amber bear]

Hear me out. Hair spray and lighter for a Flamethrower skin🔥. I don’t want credit. Just want it for myself. Take it to the higher ups. It’ll make you bread

[dapper fiber]

I feel that being insta killed by a heavy with 2 c4 on a red barrel was a little broken, but to nerf red canisters in combination with heavy only having one C4 is a little much.

[severe wave]

Nah its good nukes were too op. They properly nerf every busted weapon/gadget now which is amazing

[limpid light]

Yeah, I would prefer if we could still have 2 C4 but just prevent them from being used when atached to an object

[pseudo latch]

Nukes still exist, the C4 arming time is just delayed until the barrel is thrown, meaning there’s a grace period for people to get out of the way like any other grenade. They didn’t remove it, they just finally made it fair.

[vocal dagger]

Also seeing hand gestures

[quick coyote]

idc abt joking here, man. if fights come up, please do tag the online CMs to take care of it.

thank you for your feedback.

[sacred siren]

Yo pls don't make the mistake of only including quick cash and bank it in custom matches, pls include some form of tournament format as well. If you can't do a full 16 team one, then a single round with 4 teams is fine as well

[scenic raptor]

Gues you have not seen the whole update video

[crimson bay]

love it, but deal with the cheaters pls...

[mighty fossil]

their work arround with the NUKES is just lame, they could at least make C4 detonate on a barrel without the additional damage of the C4 so that you can still decide when to detonate the throwable,
very disappointing... its the same with the "dead go boom event" just bring it back and make it "map damage only".

[abstract patio]

should defo add solo bank it back

[pure adder]

Can we get a competitive Quick Cash mode. And game chat Plez because I’m scared to talk sometimes

[vernal swallow]

Ikr, c4 at this point is worse than breach charge, it’s dumb there’s so many better ways because at this point it’s not a nuke nerf it’s a c4 nerf which is affecting other parts of the game which have nothing to do with nukes

[clever minnow]

I'd love to see some more accessibility options. I'm colorblind (Deuteranopia) and as cool as the new maps look they also look like they might be a nightmare for me (red enemies against an all green building ). The current colorblind options don't really do much. Custom enemy colors would be amazing!

[quick dew]

how do you know this?

[bleak coral]

https://youtu.be/kNQ5aEkn1u8

[pseudo latch]

I’m assuming they’ll revert some old nerfs as to make sure C4 isn’t just a worse breach charge. Probably see most of its range and some of its damage return.

[cedar heron]

@quick coyote I'm asking again but can we get some EE-specific vocal channels?
With the custom lobbies we're gonna need some vocal to coordinate, especially with a 6 or 9 people limit, else it will be very painful via text or splitted into multiple channels...

[quick coyote]

Maybe not EE specific but we are looking at the VCs and how to work them with the Custom Games coming.

[upper citrus]

fun for 1 out of the 12 people in the match

[fossil walrus]

I guarantee you that the people who complain about nukes and recon's removals wouldn't have been asking for them to be ADDED in the game if they weren't there already. No matter what it is and how broken there will always be a group of people who will defend it to the death and talk about how much "fun" it was. I guarantee you that nukes were one of the main mechanics that pushed people off the game.

[mighty fossil]

yeah those people are just mad at anything, they play this game with such a low patience that they leave early when they die once, its just cool to have something really danger in the game, removing such high values makes the game feel flat one day, mark my words! its the same with overwatch... whenever i was getting NUKED i laughed about it, and as i said they just had to make a better work arround, but completely removing the ability to detonate on a throwable is absolutely boring.

[vocal shadow]

idk if i'm jumping the gun at this point but i can see dematerializer being an issue needing a nerf already just based off of the videos posted of people using them.

the main problem being the fact from what i've seen, is that it recharges each use as fast as lights dash ability. how the maps are currently setup, pathed and spaced, you can relentlessly chase someone down with 0 downside to it and never need to use all 3 charges and you can never get away if you need to.

current recon sucks just because the person using it has in game cheats but at least they cant shoot, run through or pass through floors, and walls if they see you. so this may be jumping the gun and we'll see. or maybe this is foreshadowing because i can see this being highly abused.... but the charge limit should be reduced to 2 charges with a 15 to 20 second charge time between charges so that it can still be used tactfully but not spammable and cant be abused.

[cosmic ridge]

You guys should add a Game Master function to the custom games, as seen in the (now abandoned) Game The Darwin Project

This gamemaster can use the freecam and activatie certain events or influence the map a bit

For example trigger a low grav event, alien invasion, lasers etc

The possibilities are limitless and it would fit perfectly into the setting of the game and also gives content creators and streamers some very cool tools to work with the game

[primal vault]

The finals is a newly adapted multiplayer game which climbed to the ranks of global stardom, in an era of competitive multiplayer scenes. The game attracted a huge percentage of great players, but sadly faltered due to a series of mishaps with damaged the game’s reputation and image in retrospect to other games. Here’s why:

The finals was that one game that had massive competition to win against Call of Duty, unfortunately with an influx of cheaters, lack of content and other instances; the game has failed to make a significant impact towards their competitors, thus reducing the player count available. The game fell off massively due to some of the following:

• Present cheaters
• Lack of content: the formula gets boring fast
• Developers not communicating with the core player base

By following these three reasons, The Finals, a game with a huge number of mishaps and incoherent content, has failed to win against its competitors.

[sudden tangle]

season 2 launches in 4h ?

[pseudo latch]

Nah man I’m sorry but nuke had this coming.

Also I’m super excited for antigrav because it’s basically a slow-field grenade. Gonna be fun throwing it in doorways and watching all that strafing turn to shit.

Also HAOLY FUCK THE NEW SHOTGUN JUST EATS WALLS THATS KINDA SICK

@vernal swallow four of its six shots smashes holes through Monaco buildings. It shreds buildings.

[limpid light]

It would be super cool if you could dye the default yellow gear different colours because I realy like how it looks but I realy don't like how the yellow doesn't fit with many of the weapon skins.

[vernal swallow]

WAIT WHAT IT DOES????? 🔥🔥🗣️💯🗣️🔥🗣️💯🗣️🔥🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🔥

embark has been preparing a meallll

[warm raven]

bro i hate when im gold and i get paired with top 2k players

[daring fossil]

im a light main, I rarely play heavy and when I did I didn't abuse nukes, but with C4 being limited to 1 like I've been suggesting for months (like breach charges), damage needs to be reverted to pre-nerf states or just increased. Breach charges currently do more damage than C4 which doesn't make sense, but C4 has a much larger explosion radius (like x3). If nukes got nerfed the way people are stating (arm timer doesn't start until you throw the object) then C4 needs to be reverted as not to negatively impact the non-nuke useage of C4 (which right now is basically a bigger explosion breach charge that doesn't kill anything). Also, C4 weighing down props as much as it did should get looked at again too. abusing nukes is lame, getting insta-wiped with nukes with no ability to counter or dodge is lame, but throwing shit is fun, and that's been basically removed from the game.

[cedar heron]

I think it could be a good idea to have a couple of separate channels as we are a small group of EE-hunters, and when we go into regular channels we often get people joining just looking for teammates to play normally which is unpractical for everyone involved 😉

[quick coyote]

You can let me know when you're doing hunts and I can lock the channel down to 2 pople

Or increase it, either way.

[young minnow]

I’m confused the game says theres only a couple hours left til S2 but the trailer said S2 will launch on the 14th. Is it launching today or the 14th?

[harsh creek]

When does s2 start?

[sacred siren]

or, maybe i did and, im concerned that one of the major reasons for people wanting private matches/custom lobbies wont be fulfilled if theres only those two game modes. and as a result, noones going to touch them unless its for niche reasons, resulting in a significantly less amount of people who would be using the new feature than if the tournament modes were implemented.

[spark girder]

It’s gonna be amazing utility for medium that it didn’t need. I don’t play light and I fully support dematerializer as a light gadget with 2 charges and higher cooldown.

Medium with the ability to shape the world more than heavy, considering the guns mediums have access to is a god-awful idea.

Quote me on this, the game is gonna be dominated even more by medium once we have to deal with AR laser beam Fortnite editing.

[mighty fossil]

also NUKES where a very "high risk reward thing" because you just had to shoot the C4 once and you would kill the Heavy instantly, just boring how some people are looking for a game that pleases them easily instead of working on their skills.. there are many games that got boring because of feedback from people who are just bad or unpacient to accept challanges, they belong to call of duty deathmatch but not in such a NEXT GEN game like the finals, i mean its your job to be sneaky with a light.

[crude brook]

have you ever shot the c4 on a heavy once? did you intend to? if shooting the barrel damaged the c4 thatd be cool, but you have to shoot a pixel on your screen even if youre close to the heavy

[quick coyote]

i got nuked 3 times in a row on ranked match, everyone is running heavy with nukes the more you climb up your rank
annoying as heck

[tight musk]

there's not a high ceiling skill for playing nukes. to pretend otherwise is delusional..

[coarse harbor]

Yep, that's me. Got bored of instakilled by pretty much everything

[upper citrus]

people say "high risk high reward" to get away from the fact that you shouldnt be able to instantly team wipe someone because they didnt see you. having them lower risk and lower reward like s2 will is so much better. one tap or be one tapped is not fun

[errant flame]

Any info on weapons balance changes? (Besides lewis recoil)

[tame pivot]

people saying nukes are high risk are also full of shit, gigz was nuking people 24/7 and barely ever getting blown up

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.
@vocal shadow while you're down there riding my meat for the trillionth time you may as well tell me why

[pseudo latch]

Not a high priority, but there should be a “random” option for your weapon skin, where every time you spawn in it gives you a random skin from your owned skins for that gun/gadget. You could even make a library for skins you wanna switch between,

[scenic raptor]

Just chill and wait a little, the Season is not even live and you're already worried about future features being implemented or not

[fossil walrus]

What's the point of a game with a decently high TTK if people can one shot you with an easy to use AOE explosion? I don't understand the justification for it. I think if the game launched the way it's going in season 2, the population would be at least twice what it is now. They lost a lot of bigger streamers that motivate other people to play the game. @quick coyote

[mighty fossil]

I died from players shooting my NUKE several times and i also did it to them, but tbh it was more commen in the Beta, i feel like they changed C4 health or Hitbox but im not sure.
But maybe making it more punishable would be a better work arround than completely removing it, because as you can see allot of people are not happy with the change. they could even try
something like a position reveal for someone whos holding a NUKE near you, i played for over 140 hours and the frequency of getting killed by NUKES is not that high.
ANYWAYS the right combination of a few nerfs to the NUKE situation is better than removing it completely, i hope they figure it out in a way where both sides are happy with. 😉

[toxic shadow]

i hope it stays weak as hell, who wants naiton-wide onetaps in a high ttk game

[tight musk]

dude you can just say the quiet part out loud. you really want to just say "i want to do the most amount of damage with the least amount of work at the expense of the enjoyment of other players"

[crude sundial]

I have no problem with the nukes, but a VERY quiet beep on C4 would be better than showing people holding them

[daring fossil]

c4 already beeps, and that doesn't help hearing a heavy coming. it doesn't matter anymore now though since you have a second to run from a barrel once it lands at your feet now. but since C4 is limited to one, damage needs to be increased back to at least grenade/mine damage, and weight needs to be a little less (maybe, throwing items with 1 c4 vs 2 might not be bad). I still think the AOE range needs to be halfed though. currently you can one-shot a light with an explosion like 15 feet away from said light

[upper citrus]

there is a reason everyone is disagreeing man. you say it was "fun" but everyone is glad it was removed. it really seems like very few people actually found it fun

[quick coyote]

Oh God. Are we still talking about nukes?

[pseudo latch]

Trust me, nukes were fun for a while, then everyone realized how “fun” winning a fight outright was.

Now they’re balanced, you can still nuke a person for, at minimum, 200 damage, securing a massive advantage there and then, only now your opponent actually has room to respond and even defend themselves.

[cunning barn]

Happy that ranked is getting improved, tired of getting ballstv in my lobby whatever tf the name is

[dense elm]

Praying they added the option to set a ratcheting button for the gyro users

[vernal swallow]

I know the custom game is gonna get all the game modes eventually, but how about some others like 1v1, ffa, and other stuff like that? I mean makes sense if it’s not the normal game modes but for a custom lobby we should have some custom modes

[mighty fossil]

i am getting missunderstood here, i didn´t mean to say NUKES should be still a thing, but at least it should be possible to detonate throwables,
you cant detonate a C4 on any throwable anymore, do you even know this? :`D They could do many other work arrounds for this in my opinion.

[daring fossil]

yeah, we need to be able to customize the ruleset and make our own game modes, this is how these types of games flourish. Counter-strike would never have been as popular as it has been for 20+ years without custom maps/gamemodes, but I understand that running extra servers is extra cost to embark, so it kind of makes sense. ramping up a server for a 1v1 isn't really feasible.

[vocal shadow]

TAKE. AIM. ASSIT. OFF. OF. MELEE. WEAPONS. ON. PC

[pale quest]

this would make game stay alive even if updates suddenly stopped. custom servers with custom gamerules

[pseudo latch]

What are you smoking? Deployable can be detonated while attached to throwable objects, the difference now is picking up said deployable resets the arm time, meaning you need to throw it for the C4 to re-arm again, creating a “fuse” period where the nuke cannot be trigger-detonated.

[acoustic edge]

__Please adjust pings and on-screen icons so they don't obscure the game __
With just some very minor tweaks this issue can be solved. Example:

1) Guy at a reasonable distance:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fgjn20we2867c1.png%3Fwidth%3D1920%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D79c1f126e709a6b8e11ef2f4e6b264a47956a201

2) The problem - guy being entirely obscured by icon:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fef280ih0867c1.png%3Fwidth%3D1920%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dbd6aef3293575f6acc57514bb1011929e1d3e49d

3) One possible solution:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F24rxzzc6967c1.png%3Fwidth%3D1920%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da2c1cfe28ae17499173e057cc91121e1aeace5aa

[bleak coral]

rather, make it so when you lock on you always hit them

[slow zenith]

you can, the c4 won't arm until you throw it 🙂

[calm sonnet]

Should have added AKM cosmetics in the season 2 battlepass

[vocal dagger]

My thoughts on the nukes are that they should return because they're very fun, but with a chance to counter it like they're louder or they're hotbox is bigger, you can shoot it and kill the carrier easily. It also takes a while before you get 2 c4s again

[amber bear]

Hear me out. Hair spray and lighter for a Flamethrower skin🔥. I don’t want credit. Just want it for myself. Take it to the higher ups. It’ll make you bread

[mighty fossil]

OOOOh sry my bad, i totally missunderstood the video i´v watched, ok im fine with that change, thank you for the info. 😄

[daring fossil]

but due to the way destruction and stuff is server-side, you can't run a local game off your machine. They would have to implement that, and only people with beefy PC's would be able to run local servers. Unless they go the route of games of old where you could rent servers

[tough willow]

It would be awesome if swords could parry tasers and grenades. It would make being a melee light just a little less painful.

[nocturne cloud]

Can we add contract tracker in game?

[azure rain]

please help

[versed dagger]

might be a different timezone?

[honest nacelle]

very excited for the new season, new stuff seems very interesting. However. I don't understand why we are giving 2 new toys to the medium class. Every ranked game and most of unranked tournaments are already dominated by triple medium teams, which is very frustrating - and now we are giving the class a new gadget and a specialization that eliminates mediums main weakness (inability to destroy walls efficiently)?

I just don't understand why any competitive player would want to play anything other then the class with arguably best and most versatile weapons, access to best gadget in the game (defib), and now also an ability to make any wall or celling disappear on demand and close it back up when you're done (as I figure from the trailer you also do it with virtually no sound, and no smoke and debris effects, which make this spec arguably even better in sieging an objective then explosives).

Now that they can destroy walls, medium seems like strictly the best class in the game even more then previously. They just do it all - best weapons, best mobility (that your team can use unlike lights mobility), best support gadgets, decent survivability - and now their lack of destruction capability, the only thing holding them back previously, is nonexistent as well. Other classes just seem obsolete and inferior to a triple medium setup. All of this feels like a move away from the rock\paper\scissors balance between classes that appealed to me personally on launch. I'm really hoping that I'm in the wrong here and nerfs are coming for mediums in order to compensate. But for now, I feel like we're going even deeper into triple medium meta, and slowly becoming a medium-based shooter instead of a class-based one.

TL;DR: Please nerf medium, triple medium every game is cringe, and I'm scared that season 2 changes will make them even stronger 😦

[tight musk]

A good HHM or HMM will still beat a MMM most times

If they haven’t adjusted the SA for the Heavy, I still say Heavy shreds an all out Medium comp. Heavies allow for last minute cash out saves that you just can’t really do with an all Medium comp

[pseudo latch]

He’s still got a point, medium is gonna undeniably be the class to play next season.
Best guns, best support tools, best anti-explosive tools, best zoning tools, best mines, the only source of healing in the game, the ability to revive a teammate without making yourself vulnerable, the best form of destruction as you can open and close walls at will,

The only thing they don’t have going into season 2 is recon, and frankly, they really don’t need it.

Medium being able to invalidate the existence of your cover and your deployables grants them so much strength it’s kinda gross, and the fact that they can make holes in walls you can’t use even moreso.

[quartz socket]

Make private matches startable with less then 6 people

[grizzled torrent]

that's true stickers under that comment. defibs were a huge problem buttttttt i just feel like balance needs to come from buffs esp to light who still feels so weak. Also sadly there will never be perfect balance i think personally for this game balance will come from "op" aspects for every class light bringing back the slowed sensitivity to lights again that was horrible. Just my take. Sorry if that was horrible to read lol.

[daring fossil]

medium is getting a new specialization to replace recon sense which was removed from the game (thank god), and then a gadget like the rest of the classes. Defib also got a huge nerf, and there is no word on nerfs or buffs (damage values) for weapons.

[sick pier]

Allow us to make style presets, so we can apply our favorite outfits to characters easily and have a way to store them

[stark notch]

I never had an issue against people using defibs. the vulnerable part is them running to the body with their paddles out. I farm so many kills from defib chaining. I do hate going against triple heal beam mediums though and rather face recons tbh.

[charred merlin]

Did the devs communicate anything since the launch on the CPU usage? Is it expected to be super high (higher than 80% even with capped FPS) even with decent CPUs (5800x3d) ?

[spark girder]

The change to defib isn’t that big of a deal and it’s still going to be always run.

And its new specialization is going to be even worse for the game than recon ever was.

Medium doesn’t deserve another escape tool and destruction with everything else it has going for it.

[thorn patrol]

I think we should be able to go back to old battle passes when a new one releases, similar to Halo infinite

[glad delta]

how would the game be different if lights had defib instead of medium?

[upper citrus]

light honestly might be strong enough to kill medium next season. depends on how they nerf the fcar @inland pendant they get 6 tapped and killed in under a second by fcar lol

[inland pendant]

when was light not strong enough to kill mediums?

[primal vault]

The finals is a newly adapted multilayer game which climbed to the ranks of global stardom, in an era of competitive multiplayer scenes. The game attracted a huge percentage of great players, but sadly faltered due to a series of mishaps with damaged the game’s reputation and image in retrospect to other games. Here’s why:

The finals was that one game that had massive competition to win against Call of Duty, unfortunately with an influx of cheaters, lack of content and other instances; the game has failed to make a significant impact towards their competitors, thus reducing the player count available. The game fell off massively due to some of the following:

• Present cheaters
• Lack of content: the formula gets boring fast
• Developers not communicating with the core player base

By following these three reasons, The Finals, a game with a huge number of mishaps and incoherent content, has failed to win against its competitors.

[paper stream]

I don't need the game to win against competition. It's fun to play so no idea what are you smoking.

[versed dagger]

Honestly I do agree that medium will be strong but not as strong as you think. Medium lost recon, sonar grenades and the tracking dart. Gas can now out dps the heal beam (I think). Medium also has no defensive abilities aside from goo grenades. Defibs were nerfed to res over time so it isn't instant. Light also has the gateway which is arguably better than a jump pad/zipline

I think the main composition will be at least MMH or HHM still, probably two fcars, a heal and dematerializer .Heavy would have mesh shield and lewis. gadgets I don't know about gadgets but it will probably still be two defibs, jump pad and probably mines. Heavy with at least dome shield.

[honest nacelle]

they probably would assuming a skill diff in season 1, but will they do now? why would I run a heavy in the composition when I can get another medium (another defib) with a suppressed c4 that can build walls back up too in season 2?

also @daring fossil thanks for letting me know, I actually didn't know that. shame they couldn't make recon work, I thought it was a cool spec.
btw where are you getting this info from? were there patch notes?

@versed dagger ok I see thanks ❤️

[vocal shadow]

well when you got hundreds of people crying about light and heavy 24/7 in the feedback instead of addressing issues about how broken medium is, ofc they're gonna make medium op af to appease the cry babies. they even gave medium a new gun but the meta slaves still gonna fcar spam every game. you can even see in the new videos about it these mindless slaves spamming fcar even though they got a new gun.

[pseudo latch]

Depends on IF they nerf FCAR. People using it in the CC test region haven’t noticed any differences, and in fact Ottr insinuated it felt better to use than it does on current patch.

@vocal shadow don’t look at me, I’ve been calling out medium favouritism since launch, and whenever i tell people to lay off heavy and look at medium in here I’m flat out fucking bullied lmao.

Also I don’t know how yall are bullying that one dude when this loser exists. This is all he does. Least the “make heavy do lots of damage” dude contributes something.

[sinful gazelle]

The whole power play with the defibs was picking up teammates instantly middle of the fight and having a chance to fight back.

With this nerf. Who the fuck finna wait for their enemy team to defibs back up?? By the time they kill the person that defibs their teammates, they can just walk over to the defib person and shoot them in the head.

Ez +1 kill if you aren’t bad at killing someone fast enough.

I can eee how that defibs can be replace by smth else

[tawny oriole]

I saw a season 2 early access video , nuke is defintly over. With other words bye bye for ever nuke

[torpid lance]

🗣️Remove Las Vegas🗣️

[edgy lotus]

has anyone else had an issue where at the wrecking ball controls, they could only turn it left?

[daring fossil]

yeah, I think the defib nerf might actually be really bad. As it is now, if you get combat defibbed, you're usually dead instantly anyways (nobody moves statues to revive, its annoying) Now the enemy can just sit there and wait until you revive and then insta-kill you.

[azure rain]

my game keeps crashing while loading into knockout round 2 in ranked matches and now I have been suspended from tournament games for 1h, im annoyed, because I am very close to the next rank and I was hoping to reach it in season 1 but seems I can forget about it.

[quick coyote]

we need midlle east servers bro Im just lagginggggggggggg

[lavish shard]

I hope so stungun nerf 🙏🙏

[bleak coral]

prediction: in 3 days everyone here is gonna be crying "nerf light"

[stray basalt]

Fr

[solid narwhal]

Yo 2 hours, just wanted to say these devs are definitely revolutionizing gaming for the fps genre, and for games in general. You already know imma get that battlepass to support this great game 💪

[glad delta]

this is me telling Embark that lights with defibs would be enough to make them viable at least in terms of teamplay and because they don't have the healing specialization, would be significantly less annoying.

as in, defibs being a light, and not a medium gadget

[severe wave]

Nah bro i dont think light is gonna be op in saison 2 maybe somewhat strong but they needed that lol

[paper stream]

Defib to light. Invisibility to medium. I like it 🙂

[near snow]

im surprised they let you post the same wall of text over and over again, other discord ive been in stop you from posting the exact same thing over and over again

[pseudo latch]

I’m sorry?
If you’re referring to the minigun/ks posts, I edit the minigun post as I receive feedback, and I do in fact say other things in this server besides “giv minigun plz”
Oh shit, rip 15 minutes.

@daring fossil I think giving the high speed class a “scout” role opens up some much-needed team support for the light. It lets them scope out a place while their team is still on the way. Teleporter is gonna demand some smart use but it will be used well.

[daring fossil]

I don't think giving light recon nade and tracking dart, plus the new teleporter is really going to change anything. I doubt many people will even using recon or tracking dart now because the light needs the best util it has to be useful.

@pale quest it would be steep requirements though because server-side movement and destruction

[pale quest]

we could host our own servers if they gave us dedicated server kit

@daring fossil It's not as steep as you imagine. servers dont need to render anything so no gpu required at all just decent cpu but im talking about dedicated servers not local running on same machine as someone playing game

[carmine vector]

They gotta add a random gamemode button

[honest nacelle]

I actually really like that change, since now at least you have a reason to run light in your teamcomp. want the info - run light. previously lights had virtually 0 team utility gadgets, and their motion sensor was completely outclassed by medium gadgets and recon

Having a monopoly on info based gadgets gives them an identity - something unique to bring to the table compared to other classes

[vernal swallow]

just got out a match with a medium using aimbot or no recoil script and saw this lol 💀

[sick pier]

Make riot shields actually lower their shield when they are stunned??? The stun gun already deflects off the shield, why are they fully safe even if they are hit?

[frosty notch]

I’m thinking teams should be one build per team, max two of the same builds (if that, then im thinking each of the same builds has to have different specializations) ex. if two mediums then there should be no double turrets on a team, instead one healer and one turret

[final siren]

WE NEED BETTER CROSSHAIRS

[upper citrus]

why? the fact that theyre stacking turrets means that they're lacking in healing, exploit that and push in

[sleek blade]

Add MnK back to finals on console please thanks

[daring fossil]

right, but I don't think it's going to make the lights any more "powerful" which is what I was getting at.

[pure arrow]

I stand by this actually

[weak escarp]

Embark omg why did you have to COOK SO HARD with the new season? They hiding something for sure.

[shadow stirrup]

no one needs access to the game data to know that triple medium is easily the most broken team comp. I feel like Embark responds to incredibly well to community feedback except for this one issue. Just hate to see the game become stagnant cause one class is able to do it all. Either neuter the healing-defib combo or make the medium weapons way weaker, something needs to give.

[tame pivot]

have you guys ever considered that the reason the people with the data haven't nerfed medium is because the data shows MMM isn't the most broken team comp like you guys would like to believe? 🤣

[jagged cedar]

triple medium is kinda mid tbh. It's strong but any triple medium would be better off on hmh or mhm. This will probably change with the new season but a lot of what made mmm good in some situations is being reworked or flat out removed so like

[lament talon]

Don't think the defib nerf was a good idea at all. They shouldve just made the invincible time less since as a good player you can then kill the defibed person with 1-2 bullets. Now the game is even more punishing for dying making high elo and even slower slug fest rather than high paced gameplay^

If you nerfed it via making the invincible time lower it would be balanced. They just needed to buff light a lil and the heavy 1 shot nerfs.

You guys don't understand high elo games it will be very very slow since dying is more punishing you couldve also nerfed it by making the cooldown longer

[quick coyote]

have you ever played rankd? its a defib/revive fest
complete shitshow

[stoic marten]

The repeated nerfs to medium will no doubt turn this into a dominated game. Which is a complete turn off considering Light has the biggest loadout variance of any class, essentially multiplying the gimmicky combinations you can face. Unpredictability brought about by the game itself is some of the most frustating shit to face, like getting nuked by a clueless heavy because you accidentally face checked him around the next corner.

[exotic swan]

Okay, I have to write about this - everything with the Season 2 launch has been amazing, the hype leading up to it, the reveal and all the content and I was so excited to go in and figure things out for myself when the season started. Open the PC today and its a shitshow online because you guys decided to do a plebs and royals system and have early access given to streamers to spoinl the crap out of everything and the rest of us be the losers that play later
How is this possible and what was the reason behind it , I have no clue but one thing that it did for sure for me at list , is just ruined my experience of discovering things and all of us collectively discovering new things because streamers posted their opinions and all the socials are spammed with content about Season 2 which I dont care for because I wanted to learn from myself. Just my 2 cents.

[timber sage]

I totally welcome private matches as well as the cosmetics :p
I do hope this can get people to experience a deathmatch flavored Finals experience without matchmaking restrictions for one. It won't change the FPS market overnight (if ever) but I'm hoping those who don't want to get a new game every year just for a deathmatch fix can use this as an alternative. I like that custom games in Overwatch exists and is reasonably active, but that game's reputation has been terribly sullied by its management in a fruitless chase for esports profit.
I understand why progression is disabled in them even as I'm not a fan of it.

[sick pier]

Step in the right direction - lights just need more teamplay util that can help them feel as useful as mediums and heavys. Medium offers heals and defib, heavy offers shields (and big hp pool). Lights rn are glasscannon without the cannon, the damage they do is very similar output to the other classes and they die instantly cause very low hp pool, so in extended gunfights it's hard to provide similar value like medium and heavy easily can.

[pseudo latch]

Good, they don’t need more power, they need more team versatility, more tools to let them benefit more than themselves. These changes give them that.

Fair enough, yeah no this ain’t a light meta, it’s still Defo a medium meta, even moreso now.

[lament talon]

Then you clearly don't know how to play the game

H-H-M beat M M M and potentially H-M-M the only thing they needed to do is increase the cooldown + turn down the invincible timer to almost 0 + buff Light!
This way with a fast paced teamfight you wont be able to res anyone really.

I shouldnt be arguing with low elos anyway

[daring fossil]

I wasn't saying they need to be more powerful, someone said people are going to be in here in 3 days crying to nerf light, and I said it's not going to affect anything or make lights more powerful

[spark girder]

The world if lights were given OP tools like dematerializer, jump pad, and defib

[serene spoke]

Light is a good enough class

[novel gust]

Can we please get ranks to be shown on the scoreboard in ranked? The matchmaking seems to have nothing to do with what ranks people are and only have to do with who is online. I just played a game where i had 2 bronze players on my team and one of the teams was obviously plat or diamond. My guys couldnt even get a shot off before they died.

[molten trail]

Wow i come in the chat and first thing i read is crying about defib nerf 😂

[severe wave]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-spit-take-cracking-up-haha-so-funny-omg-gif-17921247

[hard badger]

Lights are op in terms of movement. If ure a good light player you can outplay medium and heavy players. The only thing I realise is they have to few hp.

[pale quest]

suggestion: remove stungun

[pure arrow]

Not gonna lie, as a medium who’s never even made a nuke.. it’s sad to see in a game with so much destruction that they’re pretty much dead.

[karmic sun]

they should have a vote kick or surrender on this game lmao that would make it less painful when we get a afker hahaah

[modern spindle]

is there an API planed for creating private games? the current imp sugest that if you are running a custom turnement it requires a admin to setup the loby and then hand it over. API and spectater slots would be awesome

[pseudo latch]

That would lead to trolling and griefing so fucking fast.

[spare cape]

Please add haptic trigger support for ps5 idk if it’s coming for next season really hope so 😮‍💨💯

[fossil walrus]

Wtf are you talking about? They gave people early access to test things and make content on it to build anticipation. Believe it or not people are more inclined to try out a game if a streamer they watch is showcasing it rather than if "Alexandru" is in the lobby.

Streamers literally hard carry the populations of some games(Jynxsi for R6 Siege) and keep them relevant. No one told you to watch videos on the new season before it comes out tomorrow. It's your own fault you got spoiled.

Stop acting like a damn baby and play the game you pretend to enjoy. Everything isn't about you.

[exotic swan]

Like I said, its my opinion and maybe others think the same. How would having streamers access at the same date/time as the other rest of the player base affect their ratings? I dont think it would and I think you arguments are weak. Fortnite is doing just fine in that regards and it had 2mil concurrent on release.
How is giving feedback make me a "baby"? again, weak arguments. You have no clue what you are talking about and can't even debate a topic without flaming.

[ebon peak]

This is a game feedback channel,,,stop please

[upper citrus]

this was a thought i had for like 2 seconds and then i stopped caring because the season is peak

[fading dirge]

"Login failed due to a service interruption, please try again later."

I get this error 4 days in a row and really hope it will be fixed
Only VPN usage fixes that

[severe wave]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-the-protagonist-jack-donaghy-30rock-alec-baldwin-i-am-the-main-lead-gif-21568049

[bleak coral]

agree tbh, but also it is only season 2 and they view giving streamers early access as free marketing - which it is.

[daring fossil]

THANK YOU FOR REMOVING RECON SENSE! Can you unblock the 300 recon sense users I blocked so I don't have to wait 3 minutes for QP matches.

Edit: oh shit I just realized I can see my blocklist on the website

Edit2: apparently you can only block 50 people which would explain why I still got matched sometimes against people I blocked.

[karmic sun]

yeah good point but i swear there are so many AFKers and its so frustrating like we need to find a way to penalise them

[ancient cloud]

It would be cool to see solo bank it as a permanent gamemode because it was imo the best gamemode of all time and also it's good for doing contracts

[normal ferry]

Make when the seasons come out more clear and get rid of countdowns that are not actually true.

[nova sluice]

[GADGET IDEA]: grenade which upon explosion creates a bubble which slows time/movement in it.

bubble is small-medium size

[rough imp]

Exactly. have been waiting all fucking day for this and then they say its not coming

[fossil walrus]

iFireMonkey, Shiina and a bunch of other people have creator codes and make money by leaking Fortnite seasons. Epic knows they create hype. It's like you haven't looked into your own example.

I've already seen plenty of people who are talking about reinstalling the game just on the videos they've done on it.

Embark can't showcase things like players who actually grind the game can. It's great advertising that you're complaining about because of some kind of main character syndrome you have. You'll get to play tomorrow. Don't worry.

[signal mica]

If they correct the issues with light I'm almost positive people will complain about invis but that's just me thoooough

[weary sparrow]

Hola cómo puedo invitar a mis amigos? No puedo invitar por eso

[bleak coral]

thats exactly what im on about, as well as giving light tracking dart means they can rat u so hard and theres nothing you can do.
anyways looks like im maining light this season lol...

[modern spindle]

S2 patch notes... give em naw !!!

[wind hemlock]

Why is the game running like absolute trash on xbox? Used to be really consistent, some instances my game will just run on 1fps if anything big is happening

[modern bramble]

I absolutely love the finals. I have had an idea for the game that I think could be a successful addition whether it be temporary or permanent. Assuming season 2 will last until at least the end of quarter 2 2024, I think there are a plethora of fun ideas and additions that could be added around Halloween with Halloween theming. Imagine this: you're playing a typical game of the finals and then boom. zombies. Adding zombies to spawn around the arena as a field event mid round would add an entirely new level of depth and strategy to the match, as the only things you need to shoot currently are other players. I understand the complexities of adding AI and mapping to non player characters, but I believe that with proper polish an addition like this could be an awesome way to easily incorporate elements of pvpve into the game for the first time. I do not think this would be thematically challenging, as it has been established that the finals is a virtual world where anything is possible. Just an idea I had, and this is the only way I have figured out how to share it. Thanks!

[near snow]

your player support page website is pissing me off by not solving my issue and not letting me talk to a real person. its been almost a week and i get nothing but bot responses

[untold cypress]

It's better to be pissed off than pissed on.

[keen lily]

I wish the developers would actually play the game a little at all ranks to ban the cheaters, theres just so many of them today its ridiculous

[timber sage]

...how would AI generated pee feel like?

[modern wedge]

rpg rework

-does percentage dmg to players, deals 60% of players current health (light would be left at ninety hp if it was full, and 45 if it was half)
-does much more map damage
-flings affected players
-friendlyfire on, but only does 30% of their health (as compared to 60 on enemies)

[hard badger]

Will there be a chat function in lobby in season 2? If not, please add it, it would be so handy to communicate without using voice chat!

[fossil walrus]

According to Ottr there might be some kind of performance update. The Season 2 beta ran much better for him than the live game so hopefully that continues tomorrow.

[quick stirrup]

My mic just wont work on the finals on playstation, any reason why? Its really confusin

[bleak delta]

The new season looks sicks, but please please don't just sit for the next 3 months doing nothing. You should keep adding new maps new weapons new game modes . You can add hardpoint or capture in the final round in ranked.
Do whatever u want just don't keep us 3 months with no changes

[ebon kiln]

AURORA PROJECT UPDATED:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14qdeNL72R7Mr2kq00WD4EEXYbQinH7f9lTnwGz-gM9c/edit#heading=h.snsft4q1vivr

3.2.3. Tracking Dart
[...]

• Another option that comes to mind for this Tracking Dart, and which I find very interesting, is to make the bullets "curve" towards the direction of the target indicated with this dart, as if the bullets are "tracking" you. I don't know if you've played Cyberpunk 2077, but there's a type of ammunition that does this; you can shoot at a target and miss slightly, and yet the bullets will curve to try to hit the target. The "curvature" of the ammunition shouldn't be very pronounced to avoid becoming a total imbalance, but you could "slightly follow," "slightly assist" the bullets that have missed. In this way, those bullets that under normal conditions would pass very close to the target but would not hit it, if the target is being tracked by this dart, these bullets would end up hitting it.

[jagged cedar]

chlorophyte bullets

[lunar mountain]

Does anyone know of any news on a heavy balance or hacker ban?
c4 explo cylinder meta needs to go
7 tournaments in a row i/we encountered hackers. We are also forced to play on the asia server as australia servers are dead

[mighty fossil]

so which time does season 2 start?

[runic harness]

heavy nukes are getting nerfed pretty heavily in season 2

[keen lily]

are there patch notes

[zinc fern]

Been waiting for this update when is it dropping?

[sick pier]

Tracking dart should do a very small aoe ping upon impact and it should do damage, sonar nades should be moved back to medium 🤔

[hasty citrus]

the timer dropped to coming soon wtf rigged, scammed, bambozzled and sad

[runic moat]

i guess i need to type more

[narrow edge]

Been waiting for this update when is it dropping?
soon when 1 hour 2 hours ?

[upper citrus]

they said on twitter there will be a week of downtime between season 1 and 2

[tawny oriole]

the name of season 2 is apinal mix between the finals season 1 and apex

[red parcel]

bruh they literally said march 14

[chilly moon]

Is the update out for yall?

[harsh sable]

7 hours

[molten onyx]

sick

[true cove]

source?

[vernal swallow]

source, I felt it in ma balls

[heavy elk]

It’s 1am march 14th in Sweden

[strong oyster]

man really? Why didn't they update the timer accordingly? I was so excited

[finite dew]

TOURNAMENT MODE CUSTOMS, WHATS THE POINT OF CUSTOMS IF THERE IS NO TOURNY MODE

[drifting cape]

won against the cheater in the last round XDD but guys improve anticheat

[lapis nimbus]

its already 1:22 am there

[sinful gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-in4k-caught-you-in4k-meme-caught-in4k-meme-caught-you-gif-25209362

[compact mason]

bro, look at the patch and how fucking huge it is, embark needs time to implement that. For the first im totally fine with this kind of customs, at least there is one. Also they said its just not finished.

[lapis crystal]

Instead of Season 2 ends, maybe for next time put Season 3 starts, that way you won't confuse people

[dawn mountain]

Oh my God just have season two start now we know it's ready

[last harness]

Maybe it'll drop at twelve, the new season

[sick pier]

downtime is always needed for games to rollout an update

[pastel tiger]

@worthy roost Or someone else from embark I just bought the coins for the battle pass and wanted to get the starter pack aswell, but the starter pack is no longer showing up in the store. This seems very recent because I just saw it there 30 mins ago. Can you please help with whats going on?

[sleek blade]

Hey devs mnk support for console maybe it would be cool n shi

[tame pivot]

brother you had 3 months to buy it, it's gone

[half igloo]

My brother in Christ

[hasty citrus]

u had 3 months like that's on you

[rain current]

Push the update through already

[sour bane]

Really like that Embark realized that Recon Senses is not an ability any FPS game should have, and that Defib got reworked, and Light got some recon abilities.

Great additions ❤️

[wet light]

It will come soon, Oscar said every game mode which should include tourney mode

[knotty smelt]

mouse and keyboard support for ps5 when 😪

[untold cypress]

I'm glad there was a change to defib but if a single person defibs me I'm leaving the game now.😅

[winged urchin]

This isn't a major bug but there was a glitch where if you used mesh shield and sledge and went off of your mesh shield and quickly did your heavy swing, you would do damage but have no animation.

[upper citrus]

it was literally there for 3 months and just left for season 2. there will be another one in a few hours for season 2 starter pack

[quick coyote]

Are there plans to make some clothing items with more combinations? For example the yellow flak vest can not be combined with the getaway duffle bag even tho that upper body clothing item is virtually the same as the steal the spotlight vest and the flak vets from the so sleek set. Same thing with some face masks like the antagonist mask that can't be combined with any headpiece

[lapis nimbus]

i noticed that and i adapted xD
but i wish they fix it yeah

[dawn mountain]

Bro just have the update we all know it's done btw I have June hostage rn

[quick coyote]

sniper rifle is trash, please remove it from the game or fix its not dealing damage (literally, i see coins fall, but 0 damage, happens very often)
BTW because of this bug, i killed a guy, and he just continued to run around and kill my teammates being invisible while his statue lies ot the floor

[daring fossil]

I agree, and only because it cut down on the amount of lights playing DM in QP. I personally hate bank-it, and the solo mode was worse IMO.

[pastel tiger]

Sorry about that, I bought the season pass and got my cosmetics so its all good

[oblique olive]

ranked matchmaking is straight up brainrot. why would you put bronze players on gold+ ranks

[sour bane]

Really really love the changes and in making Light more team-oriented. Gas rework is also smart.

I gotta say, good job Embark. And THANK YOU for reworking Defib and getting rid of Recon Sense. I was one of those "whiners" that asked to rework or just straight up get rid of RS because it was such a busted ability.

[hallow tartan]

Wait is it removed completely or reworked?

[ivory patio]

Does anyone know if the new season comes out at midnight or is it at like 4am?

[sinful gazelle]

recon sense removed and replace by the new skill

defibs got nerf, not really a rework

[quiet quiver]

Season 2 - defib got nerfed, reinstate prior defib status it didnt need an update - waiting on full nuke reinstatement as nerfs on that just ruin the fun for players - shotgun for heavy is useless, damage output is weak just like the RPG - RPG is what needs the rework as I can shoot point blank and it does NOTHING so your dmg collision points are broken - data reshaper ruins mining an area so you can't even level them up anymore

[lapis nimbus]

https://youtu.be/kNQ5aEkn1u8?si=GwAvItcBQiSEtrbe
Here guys if you're so impatient like me to see what's on season 2
everything you need to know is there ENJOY ❤️

[stray rampart]

In b4 people start complaining about the new ability 🫵😎🫵

[slim karma]

😂

[timber sage]

one thing i ask about private matches - if there's no xp progression, i would like other stats to remain unaffected
i would like to potentially use private matches as an opportunity to practice the finals in some cases, so i can quit crying about my kdr when i play bank it

[hearty rose]

Arlight team just very minor thing to say

Everytime I play with my friend he says thay why I cannot rotate your character to see you

Could you please think of it as well
I know it's idiotic but at least it gives more reasons to defend the game

[analog harbor]

they really put a countdown just to say " coming soon " what the fuck.

[fossil walrus]

"nerfs on nukes just ruin the fun for players" while numerous people quit playing specifically because getting one shot by nukes isn't fun. As far as the defib changes are concerned it did need a nerf and it's a good idea to see how the changes play out before you ask for them to revert. None of us have had a chance to play season 2 yet. Don't jump the gun.

[dawn mountain]

RELEASE NOW I HAVE JUNE AND SCOTTY HOSTAGE RELEASE NOW I HAVE JUNE AND SCOTTY HOSTAGE

[ancient cloud]

I personally think that solo bank it was great because you could just do carnage, ypu couls just shoot at everyone without even thinking and doing really whatever you wanted. It was a deathmatch with a twist that you actually had to cash in the kill. I mean obviously that's what normal bank-it is but with normal one you have to think about your teammates and be aware of enemies teammates because they often walk together. I think that solo bank-it was just a more chaotic and more fun version of normal bank-it

[neon fjord]

Bring back solo bank it™

[daring fossil]

it's kind of a nerf but kind of a buff at the same time. At least now when you get defibbed you have 3 seconds to scope out the battlefield instead of just getting combat revived out of nowhere and getting beamed in the face before you can react

[gaunt zinc]

God I love this game

[fervent vortex]

its just a nerf man, although its a solid one in game balance

[lapis belfry]

Day 2,482,340 of asking for nukes to be removed

[manic sandal]

I would also love to be able to create more contestants. At least just for creating more skin setups

[glossy glacier]

ability to gift friends the battlepass and multibucks

[rapid stream]

It’s your lucky day.

[teal hearth]

Update the season already

[boreal forge]

xp needed for level 7 is too hight
i need at least 2 month to get level 7 (165x2) games bruh
(guns) leveling

[vernal swallow]

level 7 for what? battlepass or progression?

[stray basalt]

Don’t add input based matchmaking and MnK for console. Please and the thank you.(I’m just messing with Knoc and ruining his progress)

[willow bough]

I know Season 2 is right on the doorstep, and that means there will be bigger priorities for a while, but eventually I personally would love to see a system where players that reach diamond could spend their VR’s to choose which weapon they receive their diamond skin for

[gaunt zinc]

I’m so hyped for s2 this is going to be so refreshing

[hasty citrus]

basically overwatch

[buoyant basin]

make timer accurate

[vernal swallow]

tbh I hate it when the crowd counts down from ten and the game ends when they say anything from 7-4, its so annoying please fix it I know its not that important but like cmon

[fast pebble]

i love the direction

[edgy urchin]

i second this

[stiff spoke]

I wish the Battle Pass timer / cutoff was more clear. I wasted 900+ multibucks last night to buy the last 6 levels and complete the pass because the timer implied that it was ending before I'd be off work and back home. Tip for next season maybe? 🙂

[coral hedge]

Best game ever

[polar moth]

I would love a prestige or "jailbreak" system where you can spend your late game saved up 3,000 vrs on something cosmetic showing off your level! Instead of sitting on 3,000 vrs for weeks at the end of the season

[fading plank]

I'd like to swipe more, please offer me some dank Sniper skins. There was a cardboard one in Beta 🙏

[toxic saffron]

They have destroyed performance for the game, it is unplayable for me when I used to run it on medium-high. It's so bad I changed my review for the game to negative since I spent money on it and can't even play anymore

Ottr said that he had better performance on the new update, fingers crossed it fixed my issues

[hollow dune]

literally just played two games back to back and I hope I'm praying to God the ranking system is way better next season

[modern wedge]

return of solo bank it

[manic saffron]

its a minor inconvenience but itd be great if the game could support wireless dualsense on pc, mainly just at least the glyphs as having to use steam input makes everything show up with xbox icons

[toxic jungle]

I feel you

[sick pier]

it was actually good!

[stray basalt]

Part of the nerf buddy’s almost everyone wanted this.

[wise falcon]

What made Embark think blocking console players from MnK was a good idea...

[covert dagger]

Praying for invistun change tomorrow

[ebon elbow]

Especially since it is a crossplay game

[modern wedge]

i propose this:

after being hit by the wire, you have a second to move before it activates. this way you have a chance to not get absolutely fucking beamed down (mainly as a light and especially as sword/dagger user)
also, there should be a lightly visible wire hanging in the direction that you were shot from
becuz of these nerfs, make gun last one second longer

[bleak coral]

good job deleting recon, now delete fcar - thanks

[sick pier]

replace invis specialization next

[toxic jungle]

Bruh invis is fine it’s just taking health for visibility

[wise falcon]

So since some people have to cheat with cronus, the rest of us have to suffer and still play against PC cheaters?😂 makes sense to me I guess

[ornate ferry]

Yes

[void sleet]

#👂┇game-feedback The UI after selecting “Play” has an invisible option to play the Wild West game mode.

[molten trail]

Make glitch grenades explode on impact plz ok tyty

[weary prism]

aye

[naive apex]

omg i just want to play season 2 already

[wise cliff]

So no tournaments in the private matches sadly

[fading plank]

yet

[buoyant violet]

Recently, l've been trying to get in the ranked scene and have been grinding for the past week. I got a new mouse and keyboard that allows me to reprogram the buttons. Currently I have my scroll bound in all four directions to different utilities. My sprint key is right next to my walk key so I can press them down at the same time along with some other quality of life things. But l've been getting kicked from matches and now my ELO stands at massive zero. One time I was kicked even while spectating one of my teammates. Another time when I fell off a building, bumped off a tree and landed on a fence rail. Anticheat said game over I guess.

[rare kindle]

I'd like to see some improvements in the colourblind filters. None of them actually works for me, as they all have at least 2 confusing colours each. Atm im using the protanopia one, which isnt the right one for me, but somehow it is the most comfortable right now.

It doesnt make much sense that using a colourblind filter the colours of the teams I would go against (for example red/pink/purple) would be totally different from the colours my team mates playing without CB filters are seeing (for exemple green/orange/blue). The filter is supposed to help me communicate the colours I see by making them more distinguishable. These filters actually make communication harder as my team mates obviously dont understand what im talking about when shouting "RED TEAM INC!" when they're not facing any red team lol.

The background colour for objectives markers (which is orange for vanilla settings) should remain white with CB filters on (like they do with the protanopia filter) as sometimes it can be a real struggle to have 2 colours superposing each other (background colour + controlling team colour) on a so small UI element (this is more about astigmatism than colourblindness but still relevant imo).

[weary prism]

there is a glitch with the friends system where i can't friend them nor invite to party even after I've already invited them and friended them

[granite gale]

I feel like some potential changes to the gas and smoke grenade mechanics in the game could be done. Rather than creating a static cloud, I propose that the grenades dynamically follow the contours of the room. Also implementing a feature where the effects of the gas and smoke grenades do not penetrate through walls.

[fossil walrus]

I have a low end system and didn't play the beta. I pine for the great performance people used to have on this game because I never had it. The most I get is frames in the 70s with drops to the high 50s

@wise falcon What does mnk support on console have to do with PC cheats? Especially since console players cheat their asses off.

Also Cronus doesn't have anything to do with native mnk support either so those reactions are pretty weird as well.

[fluid geyser]

So with the new season bringing custom games, is it possible the finals my endorse a competive scene? If so what game mode would it be?

[loud quail]

@pearl kiln I fully wiped my PC. Downloaded steam, discord, steelseris sonar, Logitech Ghub, and the finals. I got a system integrity violation a disallowed tool detected. How is that possible?

[wise cliff]

As of now it must be Quick Cash, since you can't really choose anything else in the private matches aside from Bank It and that one just isn't very competitive

[inner coral]

I couldn't help but think this now seeing the Pencil Dagger skin..
Can we please get a setting for Left Handed weaponry ?
AT LEAST for melee stuff. 🫲

[whole acorn]

Is the games season two releasing right now? Or later? Pls lmk I stayed up lol I’m so tired

Update: Based on information from Oscar in this message #⚡┇the-finals-chat message we can expect Season 2 to start during working hours in Sweden.
So, we can anticipate the new season between <t:1710399600:f> and <t:1710428400:f> (time shows in your local time)
You can add the #game-announcements role from id:customize to be notified as soon as Season 2 drops

[dawn mountain]

My g just have the update already

[potent raven]

When is season 2 dropping

[hasty citrus]

dropping 14 mars. they lied about the timer for some reason which made me hyped for nothing today

[acoustic comet]

Is anyone else having isssues when trying to add friends??? Please help idk how to fix it

[remote citrus]

there needs to be punishment for palyers who join and throw in ranked. actively killed themselves, helping the enemies. this is so fucking stupid, wasting all his tokens immediately.

[neon fjord]

real

[fresh kite]

this

[tribal wind]

PLEASE BRING BACK MOUSE AND KEYBOARD ON XBOX

[quick coyote]

they didn't lied about anything, its clearly dated to day 14 of this month
timer had nothing to do with it

[knotty smelt]

bring mouse and keyboard to ps5 too 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[hasty citrus]

i beg to differ

[rich fox]

https://youtu.be/tujd-bb2eDg?si=ocP0B6go_j9JKqPp

just got done watching this vid and all i gotta say is, good stuff Embark.

you guys addressed many pain points from season 1 and im so stoked to hop into season 2.

[hoary turtle]

Game is amazing , stoked for season 2! A fine tune of the Matchmaking would be awesome.

[thorny hedge]

My two friends and I are all having issues. We started this game today. Added each other. Couldn't join a game together. When we restarted our game, our friends lists were suddenly empty and will no longer allow us to add each other (we get "failed to send a request" messages).

[safe seal]

What time is season2 dropping??

[hazy pendant]

GOD GAME

[balmy wind]

Please create an anti cheat

[gray crypt]

YES

[wicked void]

xims are for cowards, buy an elite or something

[quick coyote]

ye

[woven rock]

not much to say AGAIN but i dont see the purpose of alien invasion ingame event, it just drops everyones fps and it does nothing but destroy buildings. i like the new 8 bit invasion thingy tho just ditch the alien invasion man should be easy

[weary prism]

needs skill based match making 😭

[quick coyote]

3 weeks, 8 days, and 31 hours from now

[digital coral]

Please Let us have the choice to Accept a teammates Paddle Revive, I have been revived more to instantly die then to live and fight by Randoms.

[hasty citrus]

say that to my fellow helldivers! they die and fight everyday without question!

[fading dirge]

why the hell ranked system and leaderboard still haven't shut down?

[willow bough]

Yeah lol 🤫

[polar shell]

why did the countdown lie to me... sniff

[wise falcon]

@fossil walrus I think they were suggesting I use a cronus

[brittle fox]

hackers, hackers EVERYWHERE.

[slim sun]

Just amazing game

[hasty citrus]

OPSUZE merch when? summer is coming and im becoming more thirsty everyday

[polar shell]

same as literally every MP single game ever,(on PC) always has been always will be, play on a platform with a locked bootloader eg ; an actual gaming platform in stead of dev HW

[inner coral]

even back in the pre-cross play days
we had modded controllers that ran scripts in console games (full auto FAL in mw2 or plasma pistol in halo) were both common back then.

[strange sequoia]

delete the casino map PLEASE!
its WAYYY to annoying to get around, combat is to close, it feels like you're stuck in a room WHICH IS THE CASE SOMETIMES, and everyone leaves when they get into the map.

[mental sun]

headshots need to be looked at with sniper, back of head doesn't count as headshot, really annoying considering sniper is one of the worst guns atm.. and the RNG is to much on no scope, jesus.. guy in the barrel and some how misses.

[polar shell]

not the same as kernel hacks, idc if noobs wanna use controller hax ... I still pwn them either way, its not like ESP/Damage/aimbot (kernel) etc etc not even the same ballpark, the only place is xbox now since ps5 got hacked, sux I know and nobody talks about it becuase $$ but it's facts. I think MnK shud be allowed to play on console as it's the last best place (or closest to) to game fairly. Cod was fine until M$/Activistion took away crossplay toggle becuase $$ and ruined it

[earnest badge]

Embark, you have made an amazing game. Don't listen to all the whiners talking shit. I love this game because it gives me a chance to win in a genre where usually I'm just getting killed over and over. Having a game where the kills alone aren't enough is amazing thank you.

[inner coral]

yeah consoles should have the same access to inputs that we do on pc-
and i agree it's only gotten dramatically worse..

[edgy lotus]

you know what would make this game have more of that "game show" feel? small talk between the hosts, not directly correlated to any action going on. If there's no conflict detected (I.E. teams aren't fighting, nobody's dying, they're just waiting on things to happen) the hosts strike up a conversation about something at random. my main worry is that you'd need a lot of these conversations to avoid it getting repetitive

[fervent marsh]

How do y’all set a timer for the next season and still not post it?😂😂🤡🤡

[ebon elbow]

Been saying this for weeks now, I don’t think thy are gunna add it

[obsidian grail]

Scam Information, the stated time has passed It has passed

[polar shell]

Yeah I get irritated with ppl who blame devs when it's the HW/OS. Embark Imma big fan: Woul be cool if we had 'sorry' and 'curses' and or 'we got this' instead of half the 'hype' voicelines just saying 'let's go' I also think huddle here shud be group-up/stay together

[sturdy ginkgo]

So whens this update happening? The timer has disappeared from the title screen and it just says "coming soon"

[tribal wind]

Im not talking about xims where you got aim assist i just raw kbm

[long jewel]

day 103 of requesting real voice acting

[rigid vessel]

the cheating problem on asia is so fucking BAD holy fucking shit
DO SOMETHING

[fossil walrus]

Why do you guys keep bringing up XIM and Cronus when people ask for official MNK support? Do you not know the difference? If you don't then simply ask a question. Why the hell would people be asking Embark for Cronus support? Come on man

[polar shell]

it's still the the same driver input they are almost as overrated as aim assist is, plus most game mnk gets movement assist in most games to make up for WASD being digital... controller input is the equivalent of 300 dpi at best not to mention the latency by adding cheat HW, Elite 2/Turtle beach stealth is better and has the added advantage of still respecting urself in the morning. I prefer games without mnk movement assist it's hard to balance. The finals like apex is very vertical, and movement based, this helps controller somewhat

[foggy thunder]

This issue should be fixed:

• When buying the battle pass ingame it resets pass progress back to 0.
• Unsuspecting players will freak unknowing restarting the game fixes it.

[ebon elbow]

PLS ADD MNK SUPPORT TO CONSOLES,

I doesn’t make any sense why u can go against someone playing on mnk in ranked and Not be able to use the same input,

as this is a crossplay game and pc players can use controller so I don’t see why this shouldn’t be added to the game

Many other major games like cod or Fortnite have this with no problems at all

Not only will it stop xims being used but also help queue times as we won’t be turning crossplay off every game

Pls and thank you

@fossil walrus said by literally no one ever

[quick coyote]

@feral osprey
This is my main worry. Any news on your end?

[fossil walrus]

That's the exact opposite of reality. Mnk tends to have better movement than controller on every crossplay game apart from Gears and Rocket League. I don't know what you're talking about with movement assist at all since the hardest movement games ever have been mnk only.

The only thing that helps controller is when people stop using sticks and use gyro instead or the devs overtune aim assist to such a ridiculous degree that it's literally aiming for the player so that inaccurate sticks seem like they are a decent way of aiming in shooters.

[feral osprey]

Still checking. I think that you should be good at this point, but I do hope to have a solid confirmation for you. If anything, remember to catch a season 1 starter pack and then grab BP 😉

[cursive hollow]

1 turret per team

[gritty depot]

I would love to see a voice customization option which would allow you to change which voice your character uses, whether its a male voice, female voice, higher, lower, maybe some more unique voice modulated robot ones. i feel like this would be cool

[feral osprey]

Got confirmation that you should get everything if it's still available in the store 😉

[tropic sage]

I feel like we should be able to join friends lobbys or see if theyre in game. They wont see the invites unless theyre in lobby and theres no way of telling if theyre in the lobby.

[foggy thunder]

I just bought the pass. Just make sure you reload the game after you do.

[signal mica]

If they fix light's inherent issues, just know the specialization that is invis that was essentially being used as a crutch to allow lights to survive in higher levels is going to straight up become insufferable across the board. So here's to hoping the devs had the foresight to curb invisistun beforehand.

[static lichen]

they should add peter griffin

[mental sun]

wat

[tribal wind]

they should just have mnk support for console but make it so that if the player is using mnk they have to play in cross platform lobbies

[upbeat glen]

when is season 2 out in Oceania

[cursive wave]

Am I the only one that thinks that the ospuse poppin' is a pay to lose skin

[mental sun]

Jesus make the defib one use per life.. my god 3 M teams are so toxic

[static lichen]

[tidal night]

Happened to me as well, I almost had an heart attack, it was also showing me that I was level one in the bp

[valid basin]

Have they confirmed the release time?

[granite gust]

will season 1 skins dissapear from the shop in season 2?

[polar shell]

Left stick= Analogue ie; very controllable WASD= Digital on/off 1/0 end of story... when u get pwned by a controller player u likely sook and say 'ooh aimbot' or something similar because like the rest of the 'PC Master-brain-owned-by-PC-industry-cant think for yourself' you dont realise that we actually use both sticks to aim and strafe more smoothly ,not only that: more than 8 directions, when I am forced to turn cosplay-on by one of my friends, I often use dash as dashing in directions with precision is something KB is incapable of... reality LMAO. But then again ur platform has actual aimbots why even use mnk, why even play at all

[earnest badge]

Man some of yall are bitches. Quite bitchin and play the game bitches 😂 jks but fr, this isn't feedback half the time it's childish af.
This a good game. If we keep buffing this and nerfing that and so forth it could lose the essence of what is good about it. It's a good thing if you have to adapt your skills to win, games need a change up and this is a good shot at it. Let it play yall 🙂.
To counter the inevitable response to this, I'm not saying it's perfect. Just like, alot of the changes I see people put forward are kinda wack. Like just adapt to it. Good job embark!

[fossil walrus]

So basically you have no idea what you're talking or don't understand the history of gaming past a few years ago. Why do you think controllers need confígs to do advanced movement on Apex?

Look up footage of a low FOV aimbot and Apex on controller and tell me the difference. There's a reason why some PC players literally call it aimbot because that's essentially what it is.

Tech illiterate people who know very little always seem to say the most. Weird how that works.

[idle epoch]

lj

[slim sun]

the s1 was so awesome thanks guys

[amber marten]

Did the update go live yet?

[polar shell]

Those configs use STEAM KB INPUTS ON PC(to take advantage of movement assist,) look it up dude... you cant do it on console, and yes you are tech illiterate, you just dont know how much. Mic drop end of story

[alpine rain]

When IS UPDATE

[fossil walrus]

Yes. Configs for CONTROLLERS. That's what we were talking about. You said and I quote "Left stick= Analogue is; very controllable WASD= Digital on/off 1/0 end of story". You can't even follow your own arguments. Like I said the only thing that gives controllers any advantage is if they use gyro or have so much aim assist that garbage players can track by using sticks to aim. That's it. Try and follow the conversation that you started. It helps.

[earnest badge]

Agreed. Right on JOAJ

[fast cave]

Also aXL totally forgot about the mouse when he was talking about WASD and movement 😆 but tbh, i don't think we should discuss this further, at least not here where feedback to the actual (very good) game is supposed to be ❤️

[lapis pollen]

no update🥲

[tropic sage]

someone posted the times that the company is open to give us an idea but I think it's pretty far up in chat

[violet vigil]

please give us 9 custom contestants embark

[languid lotus]

ya know we need that sweet stick skin

[lapis pollen]

I don't mind. If heavy is willing to trade rpg to stun gun.

[waxen copper]

if u butterfly/drag Click u get kicked… i think it is bcs the game thinks u use an ac but idk

[quick coyote]

turn it into a net gun instead

[buoyant nebula]

.

[weary wave]

It would be amazing

[severe wave]

SAISON 2 OUT BABY

[iron oak]

Add a tdm mode like 1v1

[mental sun]

Having 4 cowboy boots that is exactly the same, but different color is plain lazy. Do better.

[sullen lantern]

hopefully there will be less cheaters in this season, which would help retain the player base

[tropic sage]

I was lied to

[obsidian solar]

Looks like I'm gonna have to start again, since nothing was changed about the shield
BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[fervent halo]

It's up!

[fossil walrus]

Report if you get better performance here. Ottr said that the season 2 beta ran better so hopefully that's the same for the live version. Also restart Steam if the update hasn't started already

[violet elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-27687064

[pseudo latch]

@upper citrus FCAR got off the hook. Called this.

[fringe adder]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1009830123463266365/1217769471020761088

[quick coyote]

I think having some sort of (skipable) kill cam would be very helpful for catching cheaters. It's surprisingly hard to notice when you aren't seeing it from the cheater's point of view.
A few options may look something like:

-A way to go back through games and spectate from other people's point of view.
This would be extremely helpful not only to catch cheaters, but to help new players learn techs and routes they might never see or use otherwise

-As I said, a simple kill cam.
It doesn't have to be long, it doesn't have to be complex, just enough to make sure there's no aim snapping.

[pine raft]

Only had limited time to read the notes, but did they buff the fcar? All the other good changes but what the fuck is that?

[toxic shadow]

This patch is so goddamn good, if fcar and sa12 were nerfed it wouldve been absolutely perfect

[gritty depot]

Just want to point out that the names used for the barrels in the patch notes were not consistent. One part mentioned “Fuel barrels” which I think was taking about the orange flammable barrels but maybe it was the red explosive ones. slightly later it mentions “oil barrels” when talking about the orange flammable barrels. just would like to see consistency in the patch notes to make it easier to understand

[woeful pelican]

if recon sense is removed, what about the rewards that were for lvl?

[uneven mountain]

i glaze to the defib nerfs

[quick coyote]

If you're going to remove something I unlocked (recon sense) then overcap my currency so I can just buy what the new shit, or just unlock the replacement

[bold lantern]

Much appreciated that the patch notes now list "From [old] to [new]" instead of "To [new] from [old]" for changed variables. It was incredibly weird to end the sentence on the old value instead of the new one, especially while glancing over the patch notes.

[wraith igloo]

Thank you+++ for listening and removing recon senses, it was cancer.

[tawny oak]

fix the sniper rifle already

[mental sun]

Man new Light pistol is super garbage..

[tropic sage]

riiiiiiiiiiip

[pseudo latch]

Gutted heavy and medium got a slap on the wrist. To anyone this surprises, you havent been paying any goddamn attention

[rustic hull]

Season 2 no opacity slider :D

[upper saddle]

Love You Embark, keep up the great work! Good Riddence to nukes.

[sand mauve]

When is the update coming out

[lofty bough]

Ranked down or sumn I can’t get a game

[teal oxide]

The FCAR was nerfed. Reducing a damage multiplier means the output damage is lower. The FCAR now deals a sizable amount of less damage at range.

[toxic shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-nfl-football-crying-crying-happy-gif-20762708

[upper citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-batman-angry-robert-pattinson-gif-10116595182912068115

[sinful gazelle]

RIGHT NOW

[slow zenith]

gigantic W patch, doubt the fcar and lewis were nerfed enough and for some reason the sa1216 wasn't touched but i don't see a single "bad" change in my opinion, embark cooked

[nimble steppe]

Were is the update for console ???????????????????????

[steep pendant]

Is the level 7 for weapons supposed to be less xp than the level 6?

[echo viper]

A light gun got a more meaningful nerf than the actual best weapon in the game. Ima leave it at that.

[cerulean nymph]

Na but whoever put the moolah sticker into two to tango is such a scam artist istg

[mossy lichen]

please i need a pure black and white tank with no sleeves

[severe wave]

I hope the player count gets up this saison just imagine 40-50k steady count just on steam would be good for ranked man i hope the game explodes this saison

[errant flame]

🇹 🇭 🇮 🇸 🇬 🇦 🇲 🇪'🇸 🇱 🇴 🇬 🇮 🇨 & 🇧 🇦 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇨 🇪 🇦 🇷 🇪 🇭 🇴 🇵 🇱 🇪 🇸 🇸 🇱 🇾 🇧 🇪 🇾 🇴 🇳 🇩 🇸 🇦 🇱 🇻 🇦 🇹 🇮 🇴 🇳 & 🇷 🇪 🇩 🇪 🇲 🇵 🇹 🇮 🇴 🇳

[edgy lotus]

everything feels SO different with the menu chance. I also noticed that Scotty sounds significantly off in powershift. i only played one match but, it was clear that it wasn't him. it was a bit higher than normal.

[white lily]

Already there....

[mental sun]

I love powershift.. great unique game design!

[clever gyro]

• Make that new season intro unskipable like Warzone and Fortnite.

I have a lot of TikTok brain friends who auto skip out of impatience, but with when they don't skip and are a couple sec into it they love it everytime and get hyped.

It really sets the tone

[molten hinge]

Is there a long term plan for the usefulness of VRs?

[quick coyote]

Balance changes were great, could be better but still great. Dunno what you on.

[pale gorge]

Why does the Power Shift announcer talk about a "second half" when there isn't one? Very confusing

[vestal glen]

It would be great if we could buy more loadouts with the in game currency. We need way more than 6 with all these new skins 😮

[dry void]

Thank you devs for the great update, trailer, community listen, hard work. We love you Embark, keep doing things this way

[pseudo latch]

Could we add the option to choose either voice A or B? I wanna use the new character skin but it uses the other voice from the one I wanna use.

[lapis pollen]

First time begging for dagger change/rework since S2

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1bcpged/do_you_think_the_right_button_of_the_dagger/
People more like Open Beta dagger than current one. I sincerely hope you devs consider this proposal.

[teal oxide]

In future patch notes, it might be prudent to add a quick "Buff:" or "Nerf:" ahead of balance notes. The amount of people who think the FCAR got buffed because the note says "reduced damage falloff modifier" and they don't understand how multiplication works is staggering.

[steel tinsel]

I've been asking for patience and it rewarded, now lets go with an aggresive marketing campaign and lets keep pushing this game

[sharp acorn]

Would love to have player card backgrounds

[supple meadow]

Aight then, TP grenade can get you out of the map

[errant flame]

No damage nerf to light weapons. Light is still the DPS of the game.
M11 got YET ANOTHER accuracy buff.
Not enough nerf on FCAR.
Most heavy weapons still suck. Lewis sucks even more now.
Nuke dead.
C4 dead.
RPG dead.
Heavy has no firepower now.
@plush cloak haven't tested yet
P.S. From what I heard it deals 120 dmg, so 2 tapping mediums is out of question

[dreamy ledge]

That shotgun is still poweful, it didn't get changed

[plush cloak]

have you seen the new shotgun? @errant flame well if youve benn touched by damn near any dmg then yes oh yea theres still two other tm8s

[simple crypt]

Buff FAMAS pls🥹

[spring vortex]

Still no "Equip to multiple" button for Contestant Style or Expression ;_; Please I'm fucking begging

[velvet moth]

Lewis never sucked in the first place, and now M60 is buffed try that one instead. And for lights, now with the portal granade and vanishing bomb buff, we might see them more often in competitive.

[unreal lodge]

VRs are still useless for long time players whos unlocked everything. Give us a way to convert VR into multibucks or maybe more stuff to buy with VRs

[next pike]

bro saying nuke is dead like it's a bad thing 💀 (that shit needed to go)

[gusty wagon]

reduced damage falloff modifier

[worn spade]

mouse and keyboard support for ps5 when 😪

[pliant quartz]

the 5vs5 mode is fun

[rigid vessel]

WHERE IS THE HEAVY SHOTGUN NERF
DUDE I CANT FACE GETTING INSTA MELT BY THOSE SKILLLESS WEAPON WHOLE SEASON AGAIN

[pseudo latch]

Powershift feels so fuckin good

[quick coyote]

XP got a small nerf by the way.
Heavy should not have the most firepower if it has the most health + 2 shields.
Shotgun is untouched, which was already heavy's strongest weapon.
Mesh shield was also very slightly nerfed so shotgun + mesh will still be super strong.
Lewis was also nearly unchanged, it's only the recoil that's harder to control with sustained fire but can with enough time and practice be negated completely.
RPG's damage was also untouched so it's still just as good but slightly clunkier/harder to aim.
C4 Deserved a nerf, it had an extremely negative effect on the game.

I know it's difficult for you to realize after all that happened in this channel but heavy should not be the high damage class with so many defensive abilities.

[teal oxide]

Yes - the damage falloff modifier is what modifies the damage falloff. If your full damage is 100, and you deal it at a range that incites damage falloff at a modifier of 50%, you now deal 50 damage. If you reduce that falloff modifier to 40%, you now deal 40 damage.

Unless that was just a correction because I misquoted the patch notes (which I did), in which case thank you, and disregard the above.

[tall herald]

jeeez how is it possible that this game improved so much but the damn report function still doesnt work properly...

[acoustic gust]

Please add virtual extension skin to more weapons, primarily for the MP5, M60 and RPG-7

[restive crescent]

performance is better on S2 or nah?

[lapis pollen]

I call on all dagger mains, we must take action to make changes

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1bcpged/do_you_think_the_right_button_of_the_dagger/
People more like Open Beta dagger than current one. I sincerely hope you devs consider rework it.

[swift horizon]

so uhh.. bug with the auto sprint (i think) on 0 delay, standing still crouch and then aim with weapon really shaking out, tested in practice tool tho

also gateway 1 animation can be canceled with pretty much any action even sprint

[foggy orbit]

Buff the level 7 camo, level 6 looks better :c maybe give it some glitch animation to fit with the theme of the update c:

[slow zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-gif-22219180

[raven reef]

Anyone else not get their ranked charm?

[woven hawk]

[strong geyser]

I'm really enjoying playing the new season and all the new items bring a lot.
I think it could be cool if at the end of the game there was a compilation of all of different people's best plays in the match.

[gaunt perch]

5v5 cashout would go way harder than this power shift mode

[dire notch]

do the announcers voices sound kinda higher only on the new map? i have only played one match (immediately on the new map) so I don't know if it depends on the map

[edgy lotus]

please add some way to change the game menus (specifically the ones that appear during matches) to be more familiar to what we saw in season one. the change is incredibly jarring and it feels weird

also @dire notch i noticed that too! What is up with that? It's a similar vein to the game menus.

[timber sage]

impressions on s2 so far:

• love the FAMAS, makes medium really strong, but I do think that balancing might be in place regardless. do miss being able to recon on medium, but I hope they'll figure something out
• 93R on light does take some skill to use i guess
• skin I want isn't coming out yet but I can wait
• haven't tried private matches yet, but i would like something like custom games in overwatch 2 generally, just so finals fans jaded with actiblizz can have something to fall back on if they want to practice getting good in the finals. i know i want something like it because i hate dying so often and i want an environment where i can work on this without worrying about lifetime stats.

[strong escarp]

Happy with a lot of changes, but sad that the SA1216 got zero changes. It's hard meta for Heavies, being the fastest killing weapon in the game, and frankly the easiest weapon to use for how fast it deletes people with barely any aim. PLEASE do something about it, whether it's reduced fire rate, increased spread, or both.

[unique wasp]

I was trying to test if the light portals inherited player momentum in practice range and almost immediately accidentally went out of bounds, which is a little concerning

[gray pawn]

Season 2 Thoughts:

New Map : Map overall layout will play great cant fault the that but the complete look of the map is definitely half arsed job, I understand the pixel/hack look but its just makes the map completely look tacky, It don't even feel nice to play on the colour pallet for it is way out and feels bland and depressing more than anything compaired to the other maps you guys have built.

Weapons: Weapons overall so far they seem great the Famas could probably do with a recoil adjustment as its like a sniper right now, Other Medium gadgets are dope abit weird to adjust but they will overall be great, (not played light/heavy new stuff)

Challenges: Love the way the new challenges are done i think its gonna give some people a lot more to do as completing daily/weekly was kind of easy

Cosmetics: Yea they great but they just cosmetics for people too use lol nothing special but they look cool i guess

Career Levels: Well we havent had any new levels which kinda sucks as capped at level 50 well since you boosted it from level 40 so could ideally be updated to 60 or even 100 be better.

So much more i could say about this update but iv gotta go work so i guess i update later 😂

[humble totem]

New season is pretty amazing rnnnn ngl

[tender stratus]

New season fucking rocks! Amazing changes and lots of em! Shows great potential

[primal spoke]

Why does the jackpot juggle for my akm keep unequiping itself

[chilly socket]

I think increasing the xp gain, imo, makes it more fun. New players being able to unlock equipment easier might keep them coming back

[dusk mesa]

new gamemode crashes my game

[gloomy sleet]

Prestige system

Playing at level 50 doesnt feel rewarding, atleast not in S1 (I have not tried S2 yet).
Therefore I am suggesting a prestige system where you reset to level 1 to earn prestige cosmetics, gun skins, character cosmetics and VR's to start at level 1 with your favorite weapon or gadget.

When you prestige, you could:

1. Get a prestige token to spend in a prestige shop to get certain cosmetics. These skins can cost from 1 token (Maybe sprays/stickers?) up to 5 coins (Outfits).
   Gun charms could cost 2 tokens.
   Gun skins and character cosmetics could be 3-4 tokens.

2. When you prestige you get a set item for each prestige.
   Spray/stickers for the first prestiges, gun skins and character cosmetics for later prestiges.

Prestigeing also rewards the player with a icon in-game next to the scoreboard name that tells what prestige this player is.
I know this is straight out of cod, but i think playing towards somthing at level 50 doesnt drain the player as much as playing for fun.

[jovial blaze]

Outfit effects like the CNS glitching or the cowboy movie effects should be separate from outfits. As it is, it is VERY difficult to match these skins with anything outside of their set.

It would be much better if we could trigger it or equip it as a separate slot.

[quick coyote]

I second this. The lvl 7 dagger looks atrocious lmao what is that, should've had more level skins on launch or at least stack the previously earned XP when it was maxed out. But, no hate. I'm still loving the update, this was a bit inconvenient lol.

[tall herald]

yeah the feedback thing needs abit more nuanced feedback than just be like "fuckin awesome!" or "fuckin bad!" 😂

[solemn linden]

I wonder if level 6 needs less xp now, with level 7 needing 144k instead of the 162k of level 6. If that is the case, Im kinda mad because I was about to max all medium gadgets and with trackingdart being gone now, I already lost a lot of progress :I

[livid furnace]

Why there no add to party button in the friends list?? I can't add mu friend to partying

[sullen crane]

The new heavy shotgun is just....just bad its not good the range is funny but it stands almost NO chance against mediums lights its funny cause two shot but mediums will just melt you with their arguably better then fcar famas

[pine needle]

TIL the heavy class exists 💀

[timber sage]

i would much prefer it if i could play a private match just to practice the game without worrying about my KDR affecting my lifetime stats as here

[indigo oracle]

Long queue time boss 🙂

[boreal sentinel]

BRING BACK MEDIUM TRACKING DART!!!

[young violet]

f

[humble totem]

What is that queeee 😭😭

[woeful void]

FAMAS feels decent but that burst pistol is god awful

[weak axle]

LOOL

[olive breach]

Yess 😢

[wise falcon]

Seems like what the community wanted wasn't really examined for this season. I don't know anybody that thinks the XP-54 is okay where it's at...absolutely bonkers to not nerf that thing

[wraith beacon]

the new mode is awesome

[lofty halo]

Still no update for MnK on Consoles

[elder breach]

Guys do anyone know a solution to why i cant add anyone as friend

[red wolf]

I hope they add more gadgets oriented towards that.

[stable crater]

Why do we only get 2500 XP per day and no weeklies anymore?? How should you finish the battle pass, if you need 4 days for one level?

[errant flame]

Well, at the the antigrav is a little refreshing. The hovering animation brings back the memories of hovering in Immortals of Aveum.
Kinda don't get what's the intended range of KS-23 yet btw.

[jovial blaze]

Hacking trees leaves these rectangle things behind

[graceful lion]

can we PLEASE have the glowing dot thats on famas on akm as well plz in green or red

[spark girder]

Also melee not addressed, APS not nerfed, MGL still a joke, mesh and defib still necessary, medium AR lasers still going strong, SA1216 untouched.

Light is still not viable, medium has less weaknesses now that they have destruction, heavy had some things gutted but still can shield/shotgun bot like before.

[latent lava]

skill issue ( i suck at this game )

[snow rampart]

I downloaded the Finals yesterday and after adding someone as a friend I can't invite them to play. when i restart the game it shows me they are not a friend anymore and i cant re-add them as friends. Can anyone help?

[mint lintel]

sounds fancy

[polar shell]

suggestion: Make a game mechanic that gives you sponsorship eg if ur on a win streak u get a uniform with ur name on the back... loose 5 games in a row and they pull it (or something)

[supple meadow]

Is the game dead now, do y'all see a recovery for it? Cashout system is still irritating to play but with the new balancing changes it feels alot better.

[shadow gyro]

beards

[winged locust]

Lets see if they finally fixed the ranked system or if this game goes dead before s2 ends.

[strong escarp]

Nerf the SA1216 (with reduced fire rate and increased spread) if you don't want to see this braindead gun dominating for another 3 months.

[boreal sentinel]

I WANT MY FUCKING TRACKING DART BACK!!!

[random onyx]

6 players minimum for private match is a little silly. I was gonna go with a friend to test some damage numbers and mechanics involving the new stuff vs deployables

[true grove]

New music SLAPS

[frail escarp]

Still no fix for controller rebinding in the patch notes i see

[errant flame]

Agree with reduced firerate, but they should increase the damage to make this weapon finally good.

[daring ravine]

Update is great so far.

Please add keyboard and mouse support back to consoles!!

[glass violet]

Nope it’s a game ending bug for me that support said they are aware of but don’t have a timeline for fixing

[clever gyro]

But let them match with pc then 👀

[jovial blaze]

I can't click the level 1 skin here

[edgy lotus]

at the end of the game where everything becomes slow-mo, it seems to be... off. i feel like the game actually speeds up for a second before entering slow-mo.

[woeful adder]

It's on the Light class now

[vernal swallow]

Its a glitch or something on all the guns, just go to the skins tab and then you can view the level 1 skin

[tawny oak]

FIX THE SNIPER

[plain steeple]

tf you mean "finally good" your 2 shot lights and 4 tap heavys literally what else could u need

[boreal forge]

power shift is better then the finals ():

[lean notch]

RIP C4
Entirely removed from the game XD

[white lily]

Is anyone else Stuck in Queue? We cant find a Match for already 30 mins. We restarted, tried everything

[solid narwhal]

Add input based matchmaking and a xim/cheat detection rework so we can have kbm on console
Please and thank you.

[gaunt perch]

Light still feels rough to play, Light skill ceiling is definitely higher than it was though

[errant flame]

Ah yes, the spherical numbers in a vacuum.

[fallow loom]

Fcar recoil needs a nerf, beta recoil is good enough

[unreal lodge]

Instead of stickers, sound emotes that no one uses, can we get more reload animations?

[lament talon]

give medium sonar grenade back. Give light 25 hp or armor on top of his hp so the light mains stop crying.

Giving them just the few recon abilities didn't change their duel potential

[formal sphinx]

We’re winning power shift, 2 mins left on counter and all of a sudden the win is handed to opposition team. Programmers huh?

[pseudo latch]

Day 4 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
• bullets do high damage to structures, allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[dusky apex]

the description of the defib still says 'instant revive'

[unreal kelp]

I love getting camped by 3 heavies while waiting for my defib

[gleaming tide]

REMOVE MINIMUM PLAYER REQUIREMENT FOR CUSTOM MATCHES. LET US WALK THROUGH MAPS AND EXPLORE THEM.

[dire notch]

will there be any compensation for the progression of the removed from the game sonar and recon?

[warm leaf]

YES, I want to play 2v2s with friends as well

[limber elk]

Did anyone else have trouble logging in earlier?

[compact nexus]

New season still getting teamed on

[fervent vortex]

Servers cost money so prob unlikely for a while

[prime wing]

still no extra nade in clip for cl40 but dw we got that sick tracking dart update we were all asking for!

[eager rivet]

I bought the battle pass but my rewards are still locked

[ashen peak]

lol how, 1v1 light can easily win. Invis, dash, high firerate weapons, bugged melee hitrange and now with the teleporter/gateaway they can just get away easier. Medium class also has no counter against light invis/dash now

[timid kiln]

please add option to make baggy pants go over high shoes and not inside regardless

[burnt sparrow]

Should change the description of the Medium build under contestants since they no longer scan

[potent raven]

Did they buff the sword without putting it in the notes??? I am getting one shot at full health everytime by a charged sword shot from the front or back

[gaunt perch]

I don't understand the playstyle, I'm using all the utility to get in and escape it just isn't working, the light healthpool is still so low, i get no value

[buoyant olive]

can you make the keys to use the gadgets on the controller to be toggled? I use d-pad left, right and up for my gadgets but I have to press triangle each time after using a gadget to return to my weapon.

[odd violet]

Drip channel is gonna be all over this: the character in creation is a bit sunken into the ground and the camera on the light character distorts the feet and makes it look funny

[drifting thistle]

feel like this season is the death of shotgun and melee. Range shot feel like rule the all

[sharp rose]

I think there is a bug, imo the new shotgun damage doesn't count as heavy damage for the contract

[vapid latch]

Powershift feels like WW2 lol

[regal ruin]

gonna be ruined by people giving 0 fcks about platform

[lament talon]

It's just that most light players are bad and get caught out in the open. Not everyone is in diamond.
That's why I would give them a passive or a tiny bit more hp/armor rather than giving them sonar grenade

Or give them a passive so they heal faster when outside of a fight

[ebon peak]

They cannot,,, the finals destruction and everything is on server side, hence it will be very expensive for them to host single player servers

[vestal notch]

make regional prices

[balmy compass]

So you can't leave ranked games anymore when people leave? That's fun being forced to sit through 10 minutes of losing because people instantly leave.

[worthy moat]

Please add more loadout slots.

[fringe adder]

TURRETS ARE STILL BUSTED

[quick coyote]

The new Slug Shotgun has wild bloom, worse than the Revolver

[humble totem]

just use the new gadget that medium has then poof gone rahhhh

[severe wave]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-adventures-yummy-yummy-food-yum-stormy-zelda-luci-gif-27322655

[spark girder]

Meanwhile ranged laser famas and fcar have insane hipfire.

[mental sun]

https://tenor.com/view/he-doesnt-know-what-hes-talking-about-james-engvid-he-knows-nothing-hes-ignorant-gif-24544026

[lapis pollen]

I call on all dagger mains, we must take action to make changes

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1bcpged/do_you_think_the_right_button_of_the_dagger/
People more like Open Beta dagger than current one. I sincerely hope you devs consider rework it.

[tulip sandal]

Still hope to be able to use mouse and keyboard on Xbox. Any news about that?

[formal sphinx]

New game mode is completely busted. We were winning for ages. Got fuck all. Other team on it and get 60% points. What is this joke?

[obsidian solar]

Looks like I'm gonna have to start again, since nothing was changed about the shield
BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[dusty marsh]

no grammar check for the patch notes, got it

[vestal notch]

its hard do pay 100 money to buy one skin

[hard badger]

devs I love you guys but come on let the game look at my kd first before matching me with twitch players (in ranked) and actually 2 guys dominating (or hacking) the entire lobby. I am not that good you know, make it much fair or I will never touch ranked again because it really sucks this way! It was my first ranked match and I get stomped, thats not the way it needs to be...And also anticheat is crap, its so easy to hack with easyanticheat especially games on steam.

Also is it godmode or is it a bug but I could a long time not shoot or using anything, just running around, like what...?

@quick coyote yes ranked

[quick coyote]

were you playing ranked?

[main dove]

the "cant shoot" thing is a known bug

[gentle scarab]

I want most of the old battle pass content to be back, hell, even better if all of it was back, I hate fomo

[dusky apex]

spawning 200m+ away on the final 25 seconds is pretty broken in QC actual auto lose

[tired sequoia]

ok

[gusty warren]

Was genuinely hoping there'd be more sensitivity options this patch, as well as a look sensitivity increase from 100% to 200% at the least for mouse players. Only fps I've played that has such a slow max sensitivity 🙁

[lapis pollen]

I call on all dagger mains, we must take action to make changes

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1bcpged/do_you_think_the_right_button_of_the_dagger/
People more like Open Beta dagger than current one. I sincerely hope you devs consider rework it.
Revert it like it was in the Open Beta!

[tribal spoke]

was kinda hopping the non sword melee weapons got a balance pass

[dusty marsh]

the last several AAA and even AA battlepasses have been been available forever (halo inf, helldivers, fortnite) idk about this patch man, on paper everything looks worse

[obsidian solar]

I always include the dagger on my Riot Shield buff request i'm with you even though i don't use it

[formal sphinx]

Yeah this has been an obvious fail since day 1. Basically it says “ you may have competed but now you lose, just cos”

[glad delta]

I think sonar is going to help a lot for the way I play. Part of avoiding getting your back blown out by a heavy/med shotgun is knowing where the enemy is coming from

[modern wedge]

THANK YOU EMBARK

[regal ruin]

bwhahaahaha the new game mode is omegaeasy. medium places aps turret, heavy barricades itf and free win easy

[timber dove]

The new pistol is kind of ass ngl

[severe wave]

the normal light pistol sucks ass aswell haha poor lights

[sullen lava]

was just thinking that the 93r is pretty bad after testing it, better off using the v9s or xp-54 it seems. a shotgun, a bolt action with iron sights, or a smg would have been better.

[mortal forge]

Would appreciate if we could see the weapon/equipment XP gained screen after each match (maybe have option to turn it off?), annoys me I have to seemingly complete a contract for that screen to appear.

[bold lantern]

The thing needs overtime if you're capping it at the end. Right now the entire mentality is just "Don't bother it's already too late". Goes for all gamemodes that involve a delay where you need to stand still and hold E to score points.

[gentle scarab]

This right here, cmon embark, even if I dont get the cool 1st sticker I still want the old content to be back

[ebon peak]

The name - turret itself is busted,, it is meant for chaos,, they have provided counters though. What is the issue then, everything cannot be nerfed right.

[pure lynx]

I don't know if anyone else feels this way as it's not really a gameplay complaint, but more of a fashion complaint, but I'm not a big fan of clothing that has animated filter effects on them like the final skin on the battlepass or the cowboy outfit from the past event because it makes it hard to mix & match for fashion. Very, very minor issue for the game overall, but I'm nitpicking lol

[mental sun]

Weird glitch where i (sniper) scoped and reloaded same time, made it where i can't left click to fire, throw, or anything. All I could do was melee till death.

[quick coyote]

no, it doesnt.

[desert zinc]

why?

[lyric patrol]

it doesnt if you are between 1-15 meters after that its trash

[queen sand]

Anyone else’s battle pass glitched?

[worldly whale]

I am currently struggling to get over 100 fps with 4090 and 7900x on 1080p low settings. Any help?

[rain gust]

AKM is the most disgraceful nerf change to the weapon roster of this season thus far.

It was already inferior to the FCAR especially in terms of damage dropoff. For it to be reduced even more than what it already is is astonishing.

AKM was in desperate need of a buff to rival the FCAR, but instead, it got multiple nerfs.

[lapis pollen]

Thank you, I remember that you have keep action for long time, respect!

[untold haven]

being able to see the intro cards for each intro would be useful

[spark girder]

Fcar now needs to get nerfed to AK level. Youre suggesting power creep to the best gun in the game

[lost minnow]

Can someone please confirm whether there is RBMM now?

[covert idol]

We need TDM! Would be dope

[timber dove]

APS turret is single handedly ruining 5v5

[cunning dagger]

What's the meaning of damage drop off?

[steel fossil]

cant enjoy season2 because of this cheaters everygame

[sonic sequoia]

Potentially look at adding customisable player card backgrounds? (heart eyes)

also, yall r tweaking. all the balancing feels smooth and well thought out, wayyy better than s1/cb/ob. fcar doesnt need a nerf at all, yall just coping

[bold lantern]

Percentage of the regular damage that remains at long range.

[ruby glade]

So for example if a weapon does base 20 damage per shot
and maximum damage drop off is at 40%
the minimum damage it can do is 8 (0.4*20)

it's a little weirdly worded
a higher minimum drop off is better, because the amount damage can be reduced is lower

[nimble steppe]

Big love embark 🤍

[gaunt perch]

The riot shield is good except that it never blocks damage when I need it to

[misty jay]

I'm curious why Lewis Gun was nerfed while SA12 remains the same. All top 500 heavies already use SA12 and the mesh shield nerf was negligible

[tall yew]

FAMAS damage and burst fire rate is good, it is way too accurate as it stands though. Just my opinion though.

[mental sun]

Why no new map for powershift

[fierce tangle]

Probably wasn’t properly devolved for that mode yet

[hazy depot]

List of stuff I want real bad:
-More contestant slots
-Make it so you can name contestants
-Make it so you can pull up your quests while in a match
I love this game that is all

[sonic sequoia]

the ak dropoff mod got reduced from 67% to 55%. that means LESS damage dropoff. the ak got buffed. learn how to read pls :) edit: @rain gust the other 2 changes werent nerfs, as where one decreased min range the other decreased max. one was a "nerf" and the other buffs it, so all that really happens in the dropoff bracket/threshold 'moves'

[slim sun]

amazing update omg

[rain gust]

I’ve already acknowledged that part. But that doesn’t excuse the other two nerfs it got, as the FCAR got a similar buff.

@sonic sequoia Ah, that makes sense now.

[sudden tangle]

I want a slow rof high damage semi auto weapon for light, like a deagle, not a fking peashooter knockoff famas

[lament heron]

I hate the lv7 skins guys.. I’m the only one???

[hushed edge]

I love the nerfs to nukes but some of the new explosion mechanics have removed FireBalls which is a bit of a dissapointment
Please make explosions do the same dmg when airborn as when grounded

[frail prawn]

I love the new patch and some of the buffs and good nerfs but Im a bit disappointed to not see any propper balance changes to the most broken weapons (at least Lewis got touched, lets see how that ends):

• FCAR being a death beam even at close ranges or hip fire.
• SA1216 an automatic shotgun than shreds even at medium range.

And its disappointing not seeing any propper fix or touch to:

• Dagger inconsistent backstab
• On/Off option for melee auto-lock
• Riot Shield alt-fire letting tons of bullets hit
• Riot Shield bad aim assist
• Bug that makes melee weapons to deal 0 damage (if fixed, it was not listed on the patch notes at least)

[violet vigil]

Dagger's backstab hitbox size needs to be improved or reduce the charge stab animation duration.

Remove all melee auto-lock.

Fcar needs reduced hipfire accuracy.

Sa1216 needs reduced maximum damage.

Mesh shield should have less health with a shorter regeneration delay.

[quasi pewter]

was hoping for more crosshair options. There has been enough debate already. Please embark🙏

[gentle scarab]

I still want the old season 1 content to be available embark please

[frank kernel]

Hi Embark!

Loving the new season so far, glad to see burst-fire weapons being added as well as the weird soviet shotgun getting some recognition as I've only seen one other fps feature it, wish the ads was actually an ads though.

I've been wanting to ask, are you planning on penalizing leavers to some degree in the regular gamemodes that aren't tourney? I don't mind having to fill someone who had to leave, that's why it's a standard gamemode however past two weeks in my quick cash experience almost always somebody leaves just because they're losing or they saw that they have 2 L's in their team, and then the person who fills leaves as well equating to about 80% of the matches not being actual 3v3v3's or 3v3v3v3's it's not very fun.
If adding any sort of penalty to regular gamemodes is a no-no maybe just add a leave counter beside wins and losses to the players statistics, it might help as some would be rather ashamed of having three digit numbers for their "left game" stat.

Keep up the good work, hopefully someone from EMBARK notices this!

[nova veldt]

When will they add, Melee Aim Assist Off/On option?? it keeps swinging nowhere or to different target than which i target first, and i have lost so many matches cuz of it

[frosty obsidian]

I love the game only thing i would add is a Private message and chat system in lobby.

When i find someone i liked to play with and add them.

There is 0 way of asking to play again (other than trying to find their steam which does NOT work most of the time.)

and that we see what friends are doing so we can actually invite them when they are in lobby :)

so i can que with the people i liked playing.

[gaunt perch]

PLEASE MAKE RIOT SHIELD BLOCK STUFF BETTER I'M GOING INSANE

I also agree with riot shield alt-fire being particularly useless and aim assist / aim lock is terrible when meleeing

The riot shield is so close to being really good except that it like doesn't block damage. If it just blocked damage properly it would be so interesting to play. Right now it is completely useless because it simply doesn't block damage. I'm okay with it doing damage like a wet pool noodle at melee range if it just BLOCKED DAMAGE IS THIS TOO MUCH TO ASK. MY CHARACTER IS NOT A THREAT UNTIL I GET INTO MELEE RANGE AND I CURRENTLY CANNOT GET INTO MELEE RANGE WITHOUT TAKING DAMAGE

I currently need to use every single medium traversal ability to get into melee range relatively safely (dematerializer, jump pad, zipline, and sometimes goo grenade) BECAUSE my riot shield doesn't block anything when I need it to, and then when I'm in melee range I do no more damage than an FCAR does in like 2 bullets across the entire map, plus I cannot chase lights because I'm a slow medium. I shouldn't need to use all this utility just to do what the riot SHIELD is supposed to help me do in the first place. You might as well just give me a baton and nothing else.

If I'm 1v1ing someone I often just lose with bullets and explosing ignoring my shield and hitting me.
Then if literally ANY other person looks at me I'm a guaranteed dead man because I can only block like a 1deg angle from damage it is just not wide enough to deal with anything more. Just widen the shield PLEASE

[nova oyster]

Letting be join back after time out would be a cool feature

[cosmic ridge]

what do you guys think about a waterpark themed map for summer season ?

[faint coral]

TFAV1012 errors are crazy, why the finals cant fix this? the game has this problem since beta, wtf embark?

[solemn linden]

With so many amazing new cosmetics we should have either more contestant slots or be able to bake custom outfit presets

[spring gyro]

Can someone add friend in game?

[uncut rampart]

Spamchatsforconteatantrolebtwhymakevoicechatimmediatelyavailablewhenfuckyou

[wheat trench]

can we get mouse and keyboard input on console ?

[pale quest]

sniper lights ruin 5v5 mode

[buoyant bluff]

5v5 has a camping problem. There's like 1 heavy per game who runs to the platform, everybody else just sits on buildings xd

Aside from objective players, there's no reason to run into the platform when everybody else is camping roofs.

[keen beacon]

okay, i actually LIKE this new mode compared to the limited time ones

[stable crater]

Why do the dailies give so much less XP, HOW should you level the battle pass with 2500 XP a day, when a level is 9000 XP

[twin hatch]

Imagine nerfing medium range and not giving them a range gun and not nerfing heavy shotgun

[oak berry]

what light pistol u guys liking more?

[shy fossil]

What did they do to the game? Everything has been nerfed, if the rocket launchers were already nerfed, why nerf them more?
Now the defribilator is impossible to use, I think it's more convenient not to carry it, they need to reduce the respawn time with the defribilator too, the ally respawns with all opponents aiming at him, what were they thinking to increase or create delay in len some gadgets in a fast game, the game is characterized by being frantic, not tactical.

[spark cargo]

Feel like I might've just been in the same game as rmrx and Zanti haha, absolutely awful in the 5v5 with a team full of snipers, defeats the purpose of the gamemode, absolutely hated playing it

[fiery patio]

solo players need an isolated q

[unique patrol]

Season 2 we just need clan support

[wraith igloo]

Seems like the 5v5 mode wasn’t thought out. Need to disable dome shield and aps turret

[graceful lion]

Dot of Famas not visible in shady areas, why include the dot then. Also bring it to AKM and make it brighter

[analog vapor]

true was waiting for the heavy shotty nerf, didnt get it, the meta will still be MHH

[bold silo]

Cool new game mode, gadgets and map

It is a shame light is still usless + got nerfed only gun that was almost viable xp-54

Snipers, throwing knifes, sword all still usless.

Hipfully they balance until season 3

[wispy meadow]

is it me or new slug shotgun is ass? no hs dmg, slow rate of fire and realoding, need 3 hits to kill medium or heave and 2 if light. They should add headshots for it, because any gun is much better than this shotgun rn. Those disadvantages like low-velocity, rate of fire and reloading should be compensated by huge dmg outcome.

[ionic hedge]

WHY THE HELL ON CONSOLE I CANT PUT THE OBJECTIVE FROM MY HANDS OUT BY PRESSING TRIANGLE?

[vague crest]

Make it where different guns deal different damage to shields instead of the base player dmg

[real jasper]

drip is good thats the only thing that matters

[vestal notch]

add the highlights sistem on nvidia shadowplay

the throwing knives charge be hold

[woeful adder]

Issues with Goo that is moving on the power shift platform. I was standing next to a goo wall I had made and basically got slightly clipped into the goo wall and trapped. Hard to destroy it to be able to move again.

[stoic wigeon]

thank you so much for such a great start to a new season of The Finals! really hype to see how dramatically and creatively the team addressed a lot of the pain points in the game for us players. such a good feeling to see a development team actually tune in to their audience and make sensible adjustments. hype af to see how the season progresses! much love <3

[quick coyote]

New weapon balance is trash, famas has acc, range, damage of sniper rifle, and every other hun been nerfed to the ground and not playable at all, landmines got removed from fast game, devs, wrf are you doing?

[pale quest]

@wraith igloo skill issue you need to coordinate a push you can just walk past shields and shoot opponents

anyway: reviving on payload in 5v5 is very buggy. often statue moves because platform is turning or going higher and you need to start over. reviving should give some room for error if statue moves just a little bit

[gaunt perch]

FIX RIOT SHIELD HITBOX

[neon bloom]

spawn points in ranked are busted right now, leading to every fight being 3rd and 4th partied

[ruby pike]

Now if i have my gun on me and i pick something up like a dead team mate
Or cash box I can't drop it if I click on what i use holding already like for the gun (Y or triangle) , but I can drop it if I'm holding a gadget then I click Y or triangle

[solar narwhal]

dnc

[junior spear]

you could make it so the overtime thing in power shift would give the people that came the furthest gets the cash and the other get more cash by getting further than the other team

[tough willow]

Playing as light as awesome! I can use the sword in Cash Out now!

[lilac pelican]

Famas damage is terrible.

[granite topaz]

you drop it with square

[carmine mist]

During placement matches if a teammate leaves don’t count the match please. My first placement match my teammate left and never rejoined and I wasn’t able to leave the game cause it said it’ll suspend me, please fix that.

[thorny hare]

Heavy auto shotgun needs a nerf. Baffling that they didn't nerf it, when less useful weapons were nerfed further.

[bold silo]

DEVS

There was no need to prioritise new mods, gadgets or weapons. Game was good already but was lacking a balance in weapons and classes. Now you are just making your job even harder adding additional enthropy and new things without balancing existing ones.

You have data of weapons use/ win rate, you have players feedback, why would you not listen to any of it?!?

No buffs to low used weapons at all... Nobody will play Light, nobody will play sniper, knifes, dager or sword in ranked.

If you are not able to balance < 20 weapons what hope is there for future of this game and why would somebody commit or ask friends to join and start playing.

Hopfully you are able to fix it soon.

[rocky harness]

gas is broken af holy shit

[subtle niche]

Wrong. The game was stale from a lack of content. This is a step in the right direction.

[chilly socket]

I agree

[spark cargo]

KS-23 is fun to use, but feels extremely low-mid across the board, 3 shots for medium feels far too many for a gun with no spread, slow reload, slow shots, and no headshots.

[restive bramble]

Look I just played two rounds and though I like some of the changes I'm annoyed and confused about other changes. You swapped around equipment that makes no sense.
Though I would've loved to have played during alpha I got to play during beta and loved the enjoyment of everything.
Ilearned a setup that worked for me and I'm not saying I'm the best but I work to get better everyday. What makes little to no sense to me is that you have a teleportation grenade option to the light class and than gave the motion sensor to the heavy class. Heavy has a hard time moving around and teleportation makes sense for them. Lights are supposed to be in and out and motion sensor helps individuals see what's going on especially because of the 150 health bar we got to deal with. It doesn't make sense that you gave the light class two medium options with the tracking darts and the sonar pulse.
The only thing everyone has asked for was for mediums is to change the recon sense for medium or just get rid of it in general because it made the game ultra unfair to other players and teams. I just don't understand the reasoning behind all of that.
Also what's up with the level seven for achievement on weapon/gadget progression. You took a skin the used to cost some credits and put it as something to achieve. A pink zebra skin doesn't make me feel super excited or proud of using that item. Personally I would recommend looking into something more immersive with the user base or just not having the level 7 progression there in general.
I'll even bring in COD on this one. You got multiple ways to achieve amazing looking skins and that's a dumb skin to look forward to. If it was a level two skin or something fine.
But make our progression feel worth it.

[dusty marsh]

same with fighting tooth and nail to get an obj, only to get third partied by a team that just respawned with everything off cd

[lapis pollen]

That's why we need to leave a feed back here

Only when there are enough feed backs will the devs handle the problem

Keep it up, we all need it

[small tusk]

I hope they will further improve the socials

[wraith igloo]

Yeh everyone said “skill issue herp a Derp” when anyone complained about recon senses. Now it’s totally removed, for good reason. Maybe there’s slight issues with the totally brand new game mode too, maybe.

[daring fossil]

Recon Senses

Removed for assessment

    Dev Note: we’ve concluded that Recon Senses have been detrimental to the game at large, and have decided to put it out of play for now. The specialization may return in some new form down the line, but only after a major rework. 

Keep this shit out of the game permanently please

[empty gate]

hey loving the season and all the new content including the tutorial, but i was wondering if it would be possible at some point in the future to have a more intensive training exercise. whether that be having a speedrun style training course like titanfall 2 or a large shooting range with faster moving dummys. I have been wanting to train recoil while having a fast moving target but none of the dummys in the current range move as fast as the average player. This causes me to get into games and be inconsistent in my aim against players while in the range im perfectly accurate. Thank you guys! The seasons amazing! Thanks for the content!

[gritty garnet]

get the sentries off the power shift pls

[loud sinew]

can u make gloves less shiny and more leathery like they look like cheap plastic aliexpress gloves like that

[ebon marsh]

C cool le nouveau mode sauf quand y'a des sales fils de pute d'incestes qui jouent triple lourd sur le point donc faut aller de faire enculer embark nn ?

[obtuse steppe]

Anyone has Problems with Laags ?

[ocean shore]

give a slight buff to the burst pistol (P3R). its hard to hit shots with iron sights already and the ttk needs some improvement

[nimble parrot]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD EMBARK DELETE THE STUN GUN OR AT LEAST ATT LEAST ALLOW ME TO AIM WHY GENUINELY WHY CAN I NOT AIM USE GADGETS CROUCH OR RUN DELETE IT PLEASE

[sick pier]

bring weeklys back

[agile gale]

Does anyone know if they changed dmg and increased recoil? So far I've only played on the heavy and noticed the lmg seems like the recoil is changed or increased I'm not sure tho and also seems like the shots that are connecting isn't doing as much damage. Is it just me or can someone verify??

[spice basin]

Ive played 5 rounds and only gotten Monaco and Skyway like WTF. Duude like Embark what is goiing on ive now been in 7 matches and only gotten skyway and monaco jesus

[oblique crater]

Add mouse and keyboard compatibility on ps5

[quick coyote]

New weapon balance is trash, famas has acc, range, damage of sniper rifle, and every other hun been nerfed to the ground and not playable at all, landmines got removed from fast game, devs, wrf are you doing?

[broken summit]

new heavy shotgun feels bad doesnt have good accuracy unless you adc slow projectiles soo yeah also it doesnt have a headshot multiplier

[shy fossil]

The XP system that exists now is good, but put the old XP rewards back, the weekly ones to 10,000, and in the daily challenges put back rewards of 3,000 for completing 2/4/6 challenges and the same with the weekly ones , please.

[white lily]

You are playing another game than me

[short yew]

Hey. The ranked season rewards for season 1. Did we get them at the time or are we meant to have them now that season 2 started?

[bold silo]

DEVS

I mean you don't need to be genius to balance the game, you can take the easiest approach

Take top 500 diamond players stats (hope you have data analylist in team) and see which weapons are underrepresented.

If there are no knifs, sniper mains there just buff a weapon by 5-10%. Do it weekly until there is equaly represented weapons in higest skill elo.

Also game is again laggy(fps drop) after update...

[fervent vortex]

Homie there will always be a meta, not saying these weapons shouldn’t be buffed but the meta will always exist

[white wing]

Yo I got a question, so I added my friend and when I go to invite him it ain’t showing up, why???

[gaunt perch]

BUFF RIOT SHIELD HITBOX

[knotty crow]

would have been nice to have an interaction with the little robots

[small tusk]

Yes would have been nice

[daring fossil]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1182539485787979886

Also, it's kinda fucked I have to unlock the dematerializer when it replaced recon sense which I already had unlocked

[dense hamlet]

Why is tracking dart now on light?
My favourite niche gadgets is no longer on my favourite contestant loadout 😭

[spark girder]

Really oversimplified and bad way to fix the game but there’s truth to looking at stats to see what’s not being used or not working and fix.

Definitely not “add 5-10% more power” which means nothing

[hearty hound]

add indian servers pls

[nimble parrot]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD EMBARK DELETE THE STUN GUN OR AT LEAST ATT LEAST ALLOW ME TO AIM WHY GENUINELY WHY CAN I NOT AIM USE GADGETS CROUCH OR RUN DELETE IT PLEASE I WOULD'VE PREFERRED RECON EVERY GAME AT LEAST I CAN FIGHT BACK DELETE THE STUN GUN

[void scarab]

i love to use the sledge but the melee AA is ass as it usually result in a 180 miss.

[dapper olive]

love game

[chrome merlin]

I cannot play the game but need to know if the dagger has received any changes, has the aim assist been fixed, does it feel better, have they done anything else than fix the animation

[sudden tangle]

Thats the issue with balancing though. What works in high level play doesn't necessarily have to work in low level play.

So it becomes a question of for which level of play do you balance. I'd argue that whatever meta happens in higher levels of play will slowly "trickle down" to all levels of play, but it takes time.

A good example for high vs low lvl of play is the light class.

The light class sucks major ass in high level of play where teams are coordinated and everyone has good enough aim to hit a L and simply win by HP diff.

In low levels of play the L class can be very oppressive since players aren't very coordinated, also tend to play the L class (instead of only playing M or H) and cant generally aim as well so the L class does have some windows to kill players, especially out of position players.

Over time, even low skilled players will stop playing L though, because there is a very real reason why L isn't played in high level. These people are called META slaves. They blindly (but for a good reason) follow the meta, don't even utilize the actual reasons behind why stuff is META, but simply by blindly playing meta, they will on average have higher chances of success.

What I would argue for needs to happen balance wise is to definitely look at success rates of each weapon and class across most ranks (gold-diamond) or something like that. Success rates being which class/weapon makes it to the final round and how often. I am fairly certain from personal experience as well as other peoples experience (streams, youtube) that the L class is the rarest class to make it to the final round by far. Across all ranks. Further evidence is the LFG. Literally NOBODY actively looks for L teammates. Nobody stacks L as well. L is just a really bad class compared to M and H, simply because of the HP diff. If all things are equal, an M and an H always wins. Simple as. L would need to be dealing more than 2x the damage of a Heavy for the HP diff to even out.

[sharp tendon]

I think I’d like a more transparent explanation on how the new ranked system works

[drowsy cargo]

As a low-level M-Revolver player, I would love to know what high level players did to get the weapon nerfed into the state it's in.

[vague crest]

Add dmg numbers

[glacial jetty]

The new shotgun (KS-23) should be nerved, 120 damage is too much, you dont even need a rocked launcher
as a light you are dead in one second and even mediums die too fast
I think 70 damage is enough and the range needs a nerv too

[torn canyon]

Could we maybe add a collapsible shield to the top of the objective in power shift?

[dark ginkgo]

Can't connect to the game, stuck on the connecting screen any ideas? Not sure if this is the right place to ask

[analog vapor]

Nukes aren't the only reason why heavy is so strong in s1 ranked, it's the auto shotgun, i would say the 2nd best weapon in the game slightly under Fcar, but better than Fcar's ability to clutch 1v3's more consistently due to heavy's kit and the burst damage, and charge and slam also deals a heck ton of damage.

[glacial salmon]

gane is dead just play helldivers

[open summit]

Please change the PLAT: logo, sticker and skin add a bit more pearlescent to it. Looks too much like silver rank

[bold silo]

I understand that but seems most objective, if all weapons are almost equally distributed amongst highest rank it would not be problem because lower ranks would not maybe be able to play up to 5 hardest skill-based weapons until they learn a bit. Currently they canot play 15 and be good haha.

Problem is there is not meta in 1 of 3 classes, light, not 1 weapons is viable which means basic class needs buff in HP probably or significant buff in all weapons.

It is just mind blowing to me that nobody in EMBARKS looks at data rather their subjective views it seems.

[hardy basalt]

can you make it an option to have back the old option for last S where im able to hold the hold and drop it instead of throwing it? what i mean by drop is to quick swap back to my weapon.

[timber mural]

Normally, Im an A class embark fanboy, but today i am deeply deeply angry at something embark has done

this will go un noticed by most players because its an extremely niche and high skill tactic that goes unused by most

In Season 1 there was a tech called pocket sanding, where you would manually detonate your breach charge with your quick melee, demonstrated in the video below, this was VERY high risk as you would essentially risk instant death to yourself everytime you did it if you messed up the timing, or got exploded by somebody else, all for a little bit of damage

I commonly used this against heavies to get my damage in because i am an all melee player and this was one of the best ways for me to kill a heavy without getting dissected, i am very livid it was nerfed, especially on this scale, and i would greatly appreciate if embark considered un-nerfing this, especially because i dont think it was intentional

Media below:
Pocket sand demonstration video
Patch note screenshot of where it was nerfed
season 2 pocket sand max damage

[quick coyote]

Menu music is bugged and randomly stops, loadouts are bugged and randomly default, and player animations skins and customization is also bugged

[static tusk]

Make the player cards better

Add badges and backgrounds kinda like battle field. Because I would spend hours trying to get a certain background or badge to put on my player card

[ivory summit]

power shifts pay out should be more then 1k
like we are all fighting over it for like 10 mins for 10 k when everything else we can easily gain 10k or more

[hallow olive]

This upd is crazy, but flamethrower in 5v5 is a bit too op

[daring fossil]

its on the patch notes, it was intentional.

[shell notch]

here are the changes made to the heavy’s M60

• Updated weapon recoil pattern to be slightly more accurate over time during sustained firing

• Increased accuracy by decreasing bullet dispersion while moving when firing from the hip

• Increased accuracy by decreasing bullet dispersion while moving when firing while aiming down sights

• Decreased accuracy slightly by increasing bullet dispersion while standing still when firing while aiming down sights

[serene oar]

can anyone tell me how to get coms working in round 1?

[nimble parrot]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD EMBARK DELETE THE STUN GUN OR AT LEAST ATT LEAST ALLOW ME TO AIM WHY GENUINELY WHY CAN I NOT AIM USE GADGETS CROUCH OR RUN DELETE IT PLEASE I WOULD'VE PREFERRED RECON EVERY GAME AT LEAST I CAN FIGHT BACK DELETE THE STUN GUN

[snow garden]

Anyone else lose the smoking gun cosmetics this update?

[agile gale]

Ok. My feedback after reading the patch notes and testing heavy class with Lewis gun. The Lewis gun is trash. And the defibrillator animation is trash. I got revived and while I was materializing back they circled me and gang banged me. See this being a issue... from my experience overall from season 1 to now the game was pretty fun last season the only thing I dislike then to now is the stun gun still stupid but everything else was tolerable. If you would have added all this new stuff and not changed some of the recoils and what not it would have been better in my opinion.. so please change recoil and dmg back to last seasons and change defibrillators back and just remove the stun gun. Thanks.

[misty jay]

Ranked queue at 10 mins and not finding a match yet

[glacial jetty]

you dont need to spam and i dont have a problem with the stun gun, it already got nerved a lot and is quite easy to counter

[dapper olive]

its good ig

[bold silo]

I agree that is why I said easiest approach which is miles ahead current "non-existing" one.

There are more sofisticated and effective ones for sure but let them just start by doing anything at all.

[brittle marsh]

LETS GO AUTOSPRINT

[quick coyote]

Ok so like I really love this update but I'm really shocked you guys didn't do anything about the dagger whatsoever, all we got was an animation bug that wasn't even that big of a deal. Hope you guys give it more attention next patch, great update and keep up the great work.

[abstract birch]

everything (apart from 93r and the fact that the game sometimes crashes) is very good thakns embark

[gaunt perch]

Day 9000 asking for Riot Shield hitbox fix

[clever junco]

Add a seperate gamemode for the 1st week of the new season, where players can queue only the new map, ive played 20 matches, and have played the new map once, and that one time was extremely fun. It also helps players learn the new map.

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
• Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them.
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[frail prawn]

Here are some bugs than should been addressed, I don't know how this 2 wasn't touched yet, specifically the one that makes your melee attacks to deal 0 damage that is still on the game

Bugs that should have been fixed

• https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1213759290347753522
• https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1213572237941284864

Feedback for melee weapons

• Please make the Lock-on from Dagger and Sledgehammer alt-fire a On/Off option, its really annoying trying to hit someone and the Lock-on moving your aim into someone else.
• Sword is good.
• Dagger really needs some love, it needs a better back hitbox to help the backstab to feel more consistent when you are on their actual backs or/and it needs to be able to hold the alt-fire.
• Sledgehammer its fine.
• Riot shield needs a fix on its alt-fire, most of the time its useless and its better to just walk/run in diagonal due to the alt-fire letting most of the enemy fire hit, specifically the right hand appears to receive damage through the shield, there's also a couple visual bugs than shows the shield in one position but protecting fire from another when attacking.

[mild ember]

It seems you don't get points in ranked matches

[nimble parrot]

Bro I'm not changing my entire load out just to beat the 4 lights using stun gun every game I shouldn't have to change my load out cause a gadget is being abused it shouldn't be a thing to begin with recon was healthier for the game then the stun also embark please make it so I can shoot teammates it's hard team killing the lights I get that actively have the stun equipped

[daring fossil]

I'm so glad you guys made the M11 better at hipfiring 🙄 cuz it definitely needed a buff...

At least the new season seemed to bring new players since I keep getting potatoe team mates.

Also the new defib nerf is absolutely terrible, I would rather be combat revived and instantly killed over being revived and left by a team mate to be surrounded by a team and gang banged 3 seconds later. There's literally no reason to use defibs now over manual revive.

I'm also really surprised another 10 career levels weren't added.

[pure lynx]

Yeah we really need the lock-on feature for melee weapons to be optional. Fortunately I'm not a literal toddler and would like to be able to aim my melee attacks how I want to. It's annoying turning 90 degrees because I dared attack an enemy that was just to the side of my screen

[prisma vault]

U do it's just hidden now I believe

[scenic dawn]

My friends disappeared when I restarted the game and now I can’t add friends

[upper citrus]

everyone complaining about the defib doesnt realize that one gadget isnt supposed to be a hard carry and is just supposed to supplement your team. defib is a lot worse now but its closer to being on par with other gadgets and no longer a must pick. thats how it should be. yeah @spark girder its literally still great idk why people complain so much

[spark girder]

Except it’s not much worse and still far better than any other gadget.

[hoary turtle]

still no Loc hairstyles ? that is kinda weird

[silk lintel]

am i the only one whos completed the rookie and day one challenger circuit in day one already. I think if they grant extra awards surely they should be open an not used to replace weeklies?

[wise falcon]

GGs Embark😂

[sick pier]

why were weeklys removed?

[sudden tangle]

I do agree with you that the balancing doesn't seem very data driven. I think they are taking a more casual customer pleasing approach, and lights shit on casuals so that's why.

[blissful sequoia]

Is ranked still skill based or is it now ranked based?

[nova veldt]

My game crashed after third round in ranked and when i launched it again, i got suspended and wasnt let back in the match, is this normal?

[dusk nova]

Anyone from Europe to play?

[sand marten]

seeing some artifacting when in free camera mode particularly when there has been a anti-gravity mine emplaced and a dematerialized piece of wall is near by as well

[prime moth]

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[modern wedge]

i love you embark

[bold silo]

I know, but this suppose to be esport competitive game and it is currently not close

[severe wave]

Heavy is finnaly not op anymore thx embark nukes ARE gone❤️

[fast rover]

how about adding good and clear sound? footsteps etc

[lusty grotto]

embark I'm sorry but the rocking is shit the medium is still god

[willow violet]

anyone cashout in the open spot in new map? its really bad to hold in quick cash as the 2 team spawns are to each side of the cashout and you barely have enought time to reset after a fight.

[teal minnow]

I bought the BattlePss but I can't get the rewards???

[unreal lodge]

Can we get more reload animations instead of stickers and spray paints

[quick coyote]

yay buggy and still missing balancing gotta wait till season 3

[onyx zodiac]

still have the glitch of not being able to shoot anything

[glacial jetty]

all you need to do to counter them is stay with your team and pay attention to sounds, you dont need a specific weapon or loadout
and being able to sprint, use gadgets... makes the stun gun useless

[daring fossil]

stun range needs to be nerfed if every gun in the game but FCAR and M11 is going to have terrible hipfire

[toxic cave]

Then you gotta wait til season 3

[wicked void]

he said bring BACK which makes me assume he was referring to how they added xim detection

[wet light]

No idea why but there was invisible ground in sys$horizon the clip shows proof anyone know why/ how this happens

[nimble parrot]

That hasn't once stopped me from dying to a light even if they die after that doesn't justify the stun guns existence in this game it makes zero sense how recon was removed but stun gun wasn't both was being abused EVERY SINGLE GAME I can at least fight a medium with recon I can't fight a light stunning me from behind with the dam cloak every time PLEASE EMBARK I LOVE THE FINALS SO MUCH BUT THE STUN GUN IS MAKING EVERY MATCH SO UNFUN

[bitter frost]

Could we please get a stat comparison button for weapons?

Also, could we get 3 custom outfit slots? (I don’t mean the 6 loadout slots)

[bold silo]

Well after playing placement matches, this might sound harsh but game in this state is really shitty, lets sit out and give a season 3 a shot ❤️

[broken light]

So far:

• Weeklies should not be replaced. Now it feels like it will take FOREVER to finish this pass, and not casually possible like S1. Keep the career mode, but why nerf all the daily XP values at the same time? Did Nexon hold a gun to your head or something?

• More Outfit slots. Can't expect me to care about more cosmetics when you have all the loadout space that's just unusable.

[prime knoll]

Can't see any ranked progression while playing within the league is not a great change

[dull elm]

I love the new map but it has a problem: it's kinda hard to see pink/Purple because yk... The map is pink/purple

And that shows an even bigger issue, the team colors
It's still very hard to tell teams apart

[gray temple]

Movement needs some rework in general. It feels a bit clunky and unsmooth. Also id like better sprint speed in medium build

[nimble parrot]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD EMBARK DELETE THE STUN GUN OR AT LEAST ATT LEAST ALLOW ME TO AIM WHY GENUINELY WHY CAN I NOT AIM USE GADGETS CROUCH OR RUN DELETE IT PLEASE

[steel tinsel]

If we delete everything that kills us we can expect the next update to be The Sims 5

[desert rover]

remove the sword its so op

[foggy orbit]

level 7 camo should have been something as gorgeous as this

[daring fossil]

yeah the 7 camo isn't even worth grinding

[open summit]

Factual

[sinful valve]

I have 250 hours in the game, and around 230 on sledge solo.

My hate with sledge comes with how AA works intermmitently, with no way to turn it off, how left click allows speed boost, but not right click, and how withen melee distance, hits can be inconsistent.

I would advocate allowing heavy heal rewards for sledge, since if you are that close and get killed, heavy has a limited engagement time with sledge due to health loss per battle.

[nova veldt]

i can never load into second round in ranked, im just stuck in loading screen hearing all explosions and shooting, if i relaunch game i get suspended and not allowed to reconnect

[analog shuttle]

Please return the sonar grenade to the medium

[indigo forge]

give meduim back the tracking dart why would u move it to the useless light class

[carmine thistle]

so they actually have a purpose???

[untold flint]

Nah

[outer radish]

why have you taken out fame points ?

[jaunty inlet]

Crosshair customization/actually precize shooting still hasnt been added to competetive shooter?

[novel hollow]

Why can you change classes in the 5v5 mode? It should be like the others, what you pick is what you endure the whole game

[lusty grotto]

I alone in ranked embark good matchmaking

[quick coyote]

I think there’s some glitch with the self heal because I sat in a corner for at least a minute and never healed and it lost us the fucking game, also I think they made invis quieter because they are just fucking appearing out of no where with no audio cues and it’s actually fucking bullshit

[onyx zodiac]

YOU CAN ANIMATION CANCEL NEW HEAVY SHOTGUN BUT NOT MED SHOTTY

[lapis pollen]

This is a good idea. People will be punished if they are too close to the sledge,and shooting from a distance will not trigger hp regeneration.

BTW I'm having fun with every sledge 1v1 fight when I use dagger. It literally just like duel, only one will live.

[wide mist]

embark w

[quick coyote]

AWESOME GOTTA WAIT ANOTHER SEASON WEEPY YEAH COOL SWEET

[spiral horizon]

"I think they made invis quieter because they are just fucking appearing out of no where with no audio cues and it’s actually fucking bullshit"

Says the light main oh the irony.

[marble geyser]

I have some feedback, they need to change the defibs? someone can get mine trapped and when they get revived they just blow up instantly

[unreal lodge]

Smoke grenade still useless

[cloud vale]

i mean, if someone plays pyro nades as i do, a smoke player would be a pain the ass

[median frost]

Glad to see a new meta Kappa

[night dune]

omfg new game mode is GOATED grenade launcher + barricade + anti grav grenade + rpg

[queen cloud]

I don't get the balance changes. Why would they nerf fcar and akm range while buffing m60 and no changing lewis??

Now lewis is even more broken. Makes no sense to play medium whatsoever.
ARs should always be more effective and versatile when compared to lmgs. And now lmgs have more range?!?

[upper citrus]

the support class really shouldn’t get most of its value from damage. the utility that medium has is amazing and is more than enough of a reason to have one on your team

[violet elbow]

New Light Pistol has god awful hipfire accuracy and that just kinda ruins it imo

Burst weapons should have consistent and good hipfire considering how punishing they are for misses up close already

[faint fern]

• Sonar Grenade
Moved from the Medium archetype to the Light
• Tracking dart
Moved from the Medium archetype to the Light
WHY???

[burnt lark]

i love how s2 been out for like 6 hours and people are just complaining and spamming for the addition of something they want or buffs on something they use. no appreciation for the devs who are making a very ambition game from the ground up. just be grateful tbh. Anyway, solid update keep em coming

[lofty anvil]

I saw that bunny costume, we clearly need an Easter Bunny 5v5 with jump pads, Easter egg frags, and goo grenades. Give the lever action a skin that looks like a big carrot for good measure

[umbral fox]

Is it normal that in ranked mode my items stop working and my weapons stop firing?

[vital coral]

Bring back old music pack 😦

[nimble parrot]

Embark before changing LITERALLY ANYTHING DELETE the stun gun

[balmy tundra]

custom game is min 6 players 😦 cant learn maps or expirement as I thought we couldve.

[slate dock]

I have encountered the same situation many times. This may be a network problem.

[tight orbit]

whos game shutting down at random and has poor performance overall?

[echo flare]

pls delete cloacking device

[indigo forge]

whoever decided to move the tracking dart needs to go get help the light cant use it they have awful ranged weapons ruined my fav game thanks

[stoic cosmos]

Do 8,299,218 damage with grenades... noice

[crystal cloak]

i literally got tased while being materialized after defib why is that allowed? I literally fell to my death after taking a map jump pad when the low gravity event ended please fix that

[high wing]

i still dont get that they didnt fix the team colors

[carmine thistle]

Ain't no way you said this, light literally gets to play the scout role and suddenly its a problem

[opal herald]

The Finals Twitch cover seems to be a little squished vertically FYI, at least on mobile, can’t speak for web

[eternal kayak]

Thank you Embark! You guys did an amazing job with season 2 definitely proud to be a loyal player since open beta!

[plain dock]

maybe i'm using it wrong, because i'm more of a pushy light player, but the new gateway nade feels a bit short ranged. love to shoot one as far as a grenade to maybe flank faster/unpredictable.

even for a fall back it feels a bit slow/slackish. dunno i may am not used to it yet but yeh new season looks nice! ❤️

[fossil walrus]

Around launch, Xbox actually had mnk support. You could just plug in a mouse and keyboard and play. That was removed in a later update so people have been asking for that back and to simply be forced to play against PC players

[untold flint]

Can we please have separate key binding profiles per contestant? Some key bindings work better for different classes than others and not everyone plays the same. It only makes sense to allow equip-able keybindings per contestant.

[glacial storm]

removing the ranked ladder was a really odd change

[quasi flax]

Yk I like the new player cards for people that die to you, but I feel like there was a missed opportunity by not including the option to choose any spray as your background
Especially with all the grafitti options

[daring fossil]

just rearrange the order of your utility?

[pseudo breach]

Why am I still not able to shoot or use gadgets? This bug has been there since beta. Wtf?

[stable crater]

had the same, but didn't have it for a longer time. Thought it was fixed

[harsh dagger]

The new voices sound kinda off. June and Scotty seem less.. June and Scotty-like? Maybe its CNS using AI 😉

[worn epoch]

We need solo queue only matchmaking in ranked

[median frost]

Queue times are already way too long. They can't now that the playerbase dropped

[neat siren]

Thumbs up for auto-sprint

[queen cloud]

medium is not a support class. It can be played to be support or not. That's why u can swap healing beam for something else.

Also ARs should be the versatile weapon like in any other fps game or even real life. Good at everything but not best at everything.
AKM range nerf was not needed at all. This just reminds me of revolver nerf and cl40 buff. Same dumb shit, at least now they buffed revolver range again.
At least they nerfed lewis recoil... But y, all this is an indirect light buff which is a good thing.

Feels like 2 steps forward 10 steps backward. Bad balance as usual.
Strongest class in the game, barely hit by nerfs. Weakest class no buffs. Medium which was in a good place without recon ofc, got the most nerfs....

[wicked void]

I see. The only exposure I had to the game on console was PS5, so I didn't know this. Cool.

[leaden umbra]

Isn't 500vrs to reroll contract is to expensive ? What do you guys thinks ?

[echo crescent]

what's up with the que times... we are 2h in que and can't find shit

[nimble parrot]

Askan I 100% agree but we gotta focus on the real enemy lights embark DELETE THEM

[restive field]

I feel like mission for 5k damage with grenades is too much, Im just stuck playing power shift, throwing nades, its been 5 matches already and Im only half way

[zealous mural]

overall gj on the season. daily quest "insert the box 3 times" is pure BS. it should be 1

[quick coyote]

both akm and fcar received range nerfs, its quite obvious they are trying to reduce medium power from long ranges
its not a bad nerf at all, its healthy for the long run
we shouldnt be beaming people from 100m away with these guns

[lavish shard]

Remove las vegas and the game is awsome 😎

[steel fossil]

dead game so many cheaters

[slate dock]

I have reported cheating, but the official does not have any feedback. I think the official should learn from pubg and
give us feedback.

[quick coyote]

AMEN

[mild gull]

the 93r needs a damage buff: it's 21 round mag makes it very unforgiving against the likes, of, for example, the v9s, which sure, has 1 less round, but since it's semi those 20 rounds last.
on the famas you can afford to miss some bursts because of its higher ammo capacity and good damage at range. that's not the case with the 93r though
i'd really like for this weapon to be viable because it is a blast to use (very fun)

[royal fractal]

possible to make private matches starting from 1 or 2 people? instead of 6

[wheat basin]

I hate the light spam every game I get into is a bunch of lights running invis stun gun and like an smg and they never win they just run around the map and stun gun you and annoy you and all the other players are heavies running flamethrower with no skill

[indigo forge]

the counter was a tracking dart but embark is stupid and gave it to the light so thety have no counter

[inner pollen]

Stop nerfing everything ,make more map with high building ,and altidude

[subtle saddle]

i hate every class except the one i play its the only one with skill

[toxic otter]

Hello, I can only select BankIt when making a private match, I think this is a bug?

[brittle tendon]

just played a 5v5 and the entire enemy team were mediums.
All of them placed turrets and aps on the platform and we couldn't do anything about it.
How could one get around this?

[spice stag]

👋

[toxic shadow]

sorry bout that

[brittle obsidian]

LMAOOOOOOOOO

[timber mural]

season 2 is great BUT
And normally when things like this happen i can kind of just ignore bad changes as long as they dont effect gameplay THAT much

BUT they absolutely gutted explosives in an effort to stop nukes and they did just that, nukes are basically useless as of writing this
and while nukes were bad, c4, breach charges, and mines on their own were not, and they got hit in the cross fire

lets go over all the changes one by one

• Theres now a damage reduction for stacking explosives, so if a c4 does 100 damage, 1 c4 will do 100 damage, 2 c4 will do 160 damage, 3 c4 will do 200 damage, and so on and so fourth, theres a damage modifier on all explosives that now dimishes the more explosive damage you take, effectively capping the stacking damage

• when picking up a throwable, it will disarm any explosives on it, and they will not rearm until you let go and they complete their arming sequence

• gas canisters now wobble off course when they have attachments

• decreased the health value of propane and gas tanks from 250 to 120, great they can now be shot out of your hand

• 1 c4 removed from heavy

decreased minimum damage of c4 from 93 to 75

and finally the one i am the most upset about

• The explosions of from c4, breach charge, and every single mine when detonated from the unprimed state, either by shooting them, quick meleeing them, or blowing them up
  WILL ONLY DO 20% DAMAGE

i do not understand this change, it effectively kills creative strategies like pocket sanding, and doesn't really effect nukes at all, its just a direct nerf to the explosives themself which... not many people had a problem with

and this is a strategy i as a melee main have relied on for a long time, despite it being risky i managed to incorporate it into my playstyle down to almost muscle memory, and now its just gone, despite not being overpowered, or widely hated

[upper citrus]

aye my bad pimp

[fiery relic]

👋

[tropic saddle]

the glitch gernade helps with this problem. it disables the turreets

[elfin portal]

There is no quick drop for items anymore 🗿

[fallow idol]

I am LOVING the 5v 5 game mode ❤️ Thank YOU for such a fun fast pace team based game

[granite topaz]

#patch-notes

[lusty grotto]

Embark seriously balances the game in ranket everyone is medium, it's disgusting, fuck it, do something, nerf medium.

[peak fiber]

why are the servers so shit in this game. always. I enjoy the gameplay.. but damn its hard.. I would like to know im getting shot before half my health is gone. it wont even show the ping.

[hexed karma]

So my friend keeps getting this error code, TFAV1012 and gets kicked from the game pretty much instantly every time we try to play now. We'd been playing for 3+ hours with no issue, and now he can't even be in the game for more than 5 minutes. Any idea's what this is?

[thick sorrel]

glitch nade needs a buff at least in range. APS spam on payload is OP...

[versed depot]

I like the new mode, I don't like dome shield.

[quick coyote]

i wanna say that last point was probably changed because GL players keep throwing mines and detonating them on the fly, so its a big nerf to them aswell

[wise estuary]

it may have been fun for those of you that did abuse explosives, but for all the players eating instant deaths it just wasnt

[graceful slate]

i dont see the issue with there being so many mediums since the defibs got reworked, it actually feels fun to play against mediums.

[drifting valve]

5v5 ranked would be cool

[pine raft]

nah ranked is still absolute hell, even worse with the rank reset

[rose olive]

New map causes headache. I NEVER get those from flashing lights, but just seeing bright colors like that is actually bad for the eyes

[hidden flame]

Why does the platinum XP54 look default🤡

[fresh shell]

5k grenade damage challenge is way too slow. Only get about 300/match even in powershift with massive enemy pile-ups.
Gas and Pyro also don't count towards it.

[nimble parrot]

If the stun gun gets removed the game would be so much better it will actually be fun again

[lyric patrol]

lights are already weak enough

[last saddle]

I think the Anti Grav cube for heavy needs a slightly larger radius

[untold flint]

That makes no sense? Games like overwatch add keybinding profiles per character instead of carrying over all keybindings across them all.
A game this varied absolutely needs keybinding profiles to streamline character control depending on the contestant you play.

[wheat basin]

Try grenade launchers

[fossil walrus]

The main thing they need to change is it should allow you to ADS when you're stunned. That's the main annoyance.

[inner pollen]

Thats the best word how to put it out thanks man

[harsh carbon]

is the slug shott y supposed to be completely innacurate even standing still on standing still target??bug??

[subtle saddle]

brother you can literally make any build play exactly how you want. change keybinds? ability order?

[gaunt thunder]

Why we don’t get any s1 diamond charm only sticker 😞

@carmine thistle but the weapon and character not xd

[lament sluice]

Please make the change to dropping items a toggle in settings it feels so much worse on controller now

[bleak karma]

you nerfed my playstyle

[quick coyote]

NERF THE FUCKING HAVIES OH MY GOD

[daring fossil]

I dont understand what you would want different, this isn't like overwatch with how the abilities are, you can rearrange your utility and that determines the keys you push to switch to those utility, if you want your special key to be something different on another character then bind it to another key, it can be bound to 2 at once.

[timber mural]

I didnt think about this, ill try to find some gameplay of it and maybe update my opinion

@inner pollen if you want to join me in protest you can copy my name

[crimson mirage]

Bring back the FP display! Makes the grind actually feels worth it!

[carmine thistle]

just be glad the skin is fire

[ebon isle]

i dont get ranked points?

[tawdry owl]

I really wish the account level was uncapped. Personally I think it should represent how dedicated you've been to the game, not how many of the free cosmetics you've earned.

[wild axle]

Early impressions? This update fixed every gripe I had about the game.gadget shufflong worked out great and everything.

[inner coral]

#👂┇game-feedback
Consider allowing for tap fire on burst rifles.
Maybe if so add a limit to how fast you can semi auto tap fire so it's not just a replacement for full autos, but adds more control to the weapons.

Left handed weaponry (a toggle, at least for melee items)

Uncapped Levels

Show progress for current to next rank

Allow us to change the Firing Range into a small version (or a segment) of actual maps, as well let us load into the range with more players to practice together and test out team compositions.

PLEASE consider making nade launchers a limited use gadget like the RPG as it is unreasonably oppressive to stand over a cash out and dump explosive bouncy balls onto the defenders..

New Game mode is super fun and mad hectic
New Guns feel great to use
New Gadgets have a high skill ceiling for mastery, I couldn't be happier with most of it all.

Thanks for this game, and I applaud all the major changes this season.
Rebalances and resorting alot of gadgets from Medium to Light was much needed.
Thank you Embark 💐

[bitter frost]

Can we please have an option to use the iron sights on weapons like the CL-40 and KS-23?

[nimble parrot]

It also slows ur movement so even if you can aim if you get stunned from the side or the back ur dead regardless I say the stun doesn't need another nerf it was nerfed once and is still just as annoying as before just delete it give light 50 more health remove invisibility and make they guns just a bit weaker and bam you have a slightly better medium

[broken lake]

also, breach nukes were never an issue. They had to direct hit a medium or light to maybe get a 1-shot

The fact they keep getting collated sucks.

[fresh shell]

mid/hev launchers also don't count. neither do RPGs

[plush grotto]

why yall gottta nerf jumpad 😦

[lofty anvil]

Oh, gonna put this idea out there again. Enemy slam for charge and slam. When a certain key/button is pressed during charge and an enemy is in reach a 3rd person animation (similar to executions in other shooters) occurs where the heavy slams the enemy through the wall/floor. Bonus points if you activate and catch in midair. Suplex? Chokeslam? Hard to say as long as Scotty has a Wrestlemania style freakout if someone gets slammed off a rooftop.

[fossil walrus]

It slows movement but the thing that annoys people the most is the fact that they feel like they can't fight back because of the lack of ADS. You would have to change much more than just health if you're going to get rid of invisibility too. It's not that easy to change something that fundamental to what's already the weakest class and not make it a worthless slot.

[sonic spoke]

No Availability on TIdal for the sound track 😦

[wide hamlet]

why did they nerf the defi so bad bruh

[wheat basin]

Ngl it’s not that bad of a nerf…

[daring fossil]

game still says push space to respawn even though enter is my respawn button because I can't have space as respawn since it's my ADS key (even though they dont conflict)

@timber mural I think the thing you're upset about was made that way because of all the people throwing mines on the ground and then GL-40 spamming, it was just as annoying as nukes. not sure why breach charges keep getting touched though for sure.

@upper citrus yeah, I've been playing shooters with right-click as jump and space as secondary fire since before quake 2, and then that ended up being secondary fire and (sort of) ADS with the original counter-strike

[upper citrus]

space for ads?????????????

[timber mural]

Exactly these changes were absolutely overkill, we really need to voice our opinions on it to embark, if you have anything to add that i havent said or others havent said please share im making a video on it that will be released withen 2-3 days

[dire ice]

Did you guys change scottys voice!? He sounds higher pitched? Why?

[quick coyote]

Love the new 5v5 gamemode. Would like to see even bigger matches in the future.

[subtle saddle]

yeah they both sound a lil different!
(better i think! in terms of naturalness)

[vagrant pivot]

Thoughts on how the commentators sound now?

For me they sound really odd, season 1 Scotty and June sounded really life-like that i didn't believe they were AI, now it's really weird and obvious.

[icy marsh]

I wish the announcers could do more specific voice lines pertaining to individual player actions in the game

For example you might hear a specific line only you hear when you place a mine down on a cash out

“Player Name is setting up a trap let’s see if enemy falls for it”

If that mine gets kill - “Players trap caught enemy name off guard”

[quick coyote]

the new guns need to be tweaked for sure

[arctic hare]

Hey guys, love the game so much. But could you please add a playlist for the new map? I have played like 9 games without seeing the new map ONCE. I just wanna play the new content 😭 Even if you just weight the probability for a week or two, that would be amazing

[sour bane]

Cope, scrub. No more abusing triple Med Defib cheese for you.

[wet light]

WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT IF YOU CAN HAVE A TUTORIAL FOR EACH SPECIALIZATION/GADGETS?! THAT SOUNDS AWESOME

[onyx zodiac]

stun would literally be pointless then

[modern wedge]

text chat :3

[arctic jolt]

guys hello i cant invite my friend to lobby if i restart my game hes gone from my friend list can someone help me

[wanton dove]

Read the season 2 patch notes. Great changes but It's late.
Most people already left and have no trust in your management.
You had tons of feedback and you ignored all of them until now.

[shadow nacelle]

Is anyone not getting rank in ranked?? Won the finals and still havent gained anything...

[smoky lily]

Heavy feels significantly nerfed, Nukes needed to be removed but nerfing rpg Lewis and dome makes it really hard to trade

[cedar ravine]

Makes it hard to solo entire teams effortlessly you mean?

[nova crypt]

Bro games only been out for like 3-4 months 😂

[fossil walrus]

No it wouldn't be. It still completely slows people down so that you and your team can beam them without them being able to reset. It would still be very, very good but wouldn't be a free kill.

@wanton dove There were people giving feedback in favor of nukes too, so Embark actually had to see how the games played out before making a drastic change. At one point during the beta people thought recon was useless. Imagine if they were as impatient as you and took that feedback.

[cinder quartz]

My only problem is I was excited for some type of tournament play, and the lack of private support being only two game modes seems unfortunate, and then the 5v5 mode that I’m assuming they want to push, is push, overwatches least we’ll received mode, instead of the unique gameplay they already created.

[crude brook]

powershift oughta give the win to the team that pushes it farther and go into overtime while the losing team is pushing it

[fresh shell]

You can heavy-dash during the defib animation, it won't do anything but consume the dash

[safe umbra]

In-Game Chat when

[nimble parrot]

I don't think the stun needs nerfs it was a bad idea to begin with just delete it and never return it EVER

[rough imp]

power shift needs to give victory to the team that made it furthest, not the team that is further when the game ends

if the winning team has the platform at 1%, it doesnt matter if we pushed it to 99%? we lose because they were further at the match end

[tidal mist]

Please please please make private match minumum 2 to players to start instead of 6, this will make the games 10x better

[sudden tangle]

it really isnt. the devs have stated multiple times that they want this game to be casual first. trust me, im the first person to disagree with this, but it is what it is, and the game is still pretty fking good

[dark kraken]

Why is queue so long been in it for 30mins

[primal folio]

Anyone else notice the va quality skyrocketed
Did they like get a better ai or smth

[quick coyote]

100%. Like overwatch does it.

[ashen sigil]

fix the bug that prevents you from sprinting on respawn please

[shadow nacelle]

Wondering the same thing... And now you cant see fam points... Won two tournys and havent ranked up any

[sour bane]

COPE MEDIUM LOSERS

No more busted Defib, no more free wall hacks, no more cross the map FCAR, no more Recon gadgets!!!!

Now you actually have to learn to play the game and learn some basic game sense

[dire drum]

Why can’t we drop objects and revives. & Have to throw my teammates dead body across the map and famas is useless changing my name

[simple quiver]

The Season 2 Aesthetic is amazing, thanks for releasing the soundtrack day one! Please add something to notify people that a skin has custom animations

[near snow]

did you try right clicking while holding something?

[abstract fern]

great feedback man i'm sure the devs appreciate you letting all your frustration out on the old state of items in the last season 🤡

[split drift]

LOOKS LIKE YOOU GOT UR REQUEST LOL

[rancid thistle]

hope we get more qol changes like more loudout slots

[grave wren]

The power shift platform needs to have some cover. It's pure anarchy without a lick of skill involved from any of the teams. And as much as I hate to admit it, 5v5 is a bit excessive.

[toxic scarab]

Is the circuit not giving out xps? Where our weekly challenge?