👂┇game-feedback

[true geode]

The Finals is the best game I have played in years and it's free. There I said it. Thanks for creating this work of art guys. If you guys are still looking for developers, hit me up

[boreal fable]

The extra weight on the cannisters is too much, makes it very hard to get them safely away from yourself and mines on the red one are laughably slow to where you can run faster than it.

[sick marten]

Still can't even launch the game. I get to the EAC screen and then it just closes, no error code or message or anything.

[steel stirrup]

Bet need to wait 1-2 weeks so they fix shit on console

[zenith ocean]

Errors while loading a game, can't play the game

[crisp oxide]

MEDIUM IS NOW THE ONLY VIABLE RANKED PLAY CLASS. EMBARK HEAR MY PRAYER…YOU FUCKED UP!

[feral canopy]

I do, and using the scroll wheel on the v9s still feels like the cap should be lower.

[nimble steppe]

So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!

Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬

[void horizon]

Hmmm, odd. Maybe try throwing the canister without putting shit on it? I think the point of the nerf was to stop the cheesy bs strat you are trying to use…

[hollow wadi]

KBM support get taken off of consoles?

[drifting heath]

Playing with keyboard and mouse against on console gives you an advantage over people playing with controller on console, not pc players.

Also, You can basically build a 1080p gaming system for the same price as a ps5.

[wide summit]

Something feels off about tge Lewis gun

[solemn linden]

I know how it works, but after the update smoke in a room with bright light cough las vegas or outside is like a flippin flash bang and before the update that definitely was not the case

[quick coyote]

Ban lights from new game mode

having an issue on console i have aim assist on but its not working went in firing range and it stays at the same speed when aiming over an enemy, it slows when i aim over loads of enemies but if its just one enemy it doesnt work

[wanton quarry]

Fix AA slowdown on ps5 within 20m bug. tysm

[arctic ledge]

please bring back m&k to xbox

[reef jasper]

Recon:

• games are entirely too dependent on which teams have recon or not, the information gained from the ability is removing a lot of key elements from the game. Movement doesn’t matter much because recon allows you to simply track EVERYBODY ANYWHERE.

DEFIB:

• the invulnerability off revival should be much shorter and not allow you to shoot your gun while invulnerable. Cooldown should be increased. Too many teams are abusing 3 mediums and ruining the ability to play diverse teams and win.

Light:

• this class is not in a good spot, there are very few players who are able to find success with it in ranked, definitely something that needs some work ups to be more equal to other classes

just reposting so it’s not too far gone

[frozen viper]

🐛 only the tracking dart's visual cooldown is 13s, the actual time of it is still 15s

[gray folio]

Yeah its a lot of practice, which we KBM players have already obtained through KBM, now we have to learn it all over again, making it unfair for us. And + not every player is crazy at controller. It's a well known fact that KBM is dominant compared to controller...

[kindred harness]

This enables more cheats for console. Granted, you have zen...but... 👀

[fickle acorn]

MAKE LEVELING UP WAY EASIER

[sweet tundra]

there is a glitch where I cant use any gadget nor I can shoot , it happens to me a lot

[balmy flume]

So, just a question about nukes, you made C4 having a weight system, tho for heavies (who were the bigger nuke issue) it doesn't change much, and for lights you literally cancel them from doing it, cause they don't have the throw buff heavies have, lights nuke were a very good thing to give them a little purpice in ranked in my opinion

Otherwise, good patch 🙂

[meager rain]

remove vegas, worst map.

[sinful torrent]

Aim asst off ?

[broken lake]

breach charge nukes didn't have to catch a stray from these changes. They were already very balanced and required literally a direct hit to do decent damage. Please revert the weight thing for just breaching charges.

(it would also give them a better niche)

[rancid cipher]

Why did mnk support get removed for console there is not enough buttons on a normal controller to play this game bring it back

[reef wren]

tried to log back on the finals since the controller nerfs, closed the game right away. and with these new changes, it only seems like playing medium on m&k is the only viable strategy now

[quick coyote]

Light still does barely any damage compared to the likes of medium and heavy and they are still a dominating meta over them i think that should be fixed

[tribal river]

Did they remove the use of mnk on console cuz mine won't work??

[polar lodge]

@tribal river yes sadly

[tepid shoal]

I'm asking a inbuilt messaging system

[pallid gull]

Have you tried connecting your m&k to your PC?

[tough topaz]

Bro, let's be honest, buying a keyboard and mouse is MUCH easier than putting together a new setup just to play an FPS game. Bringing support back is the right thing to do, period.

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for grapple hook to have two charges

[blissful vector]

not every player is crazy on controller and its why you gotta practice, obviously KBM will be superior as a control method since you have the ability to move your limbs more for micro adjustments etc, it is indeed just objectively better but it doesnt mean that a controller player cant be better right? im not well informed on the subject, but, isnt console kinda meant to be played on controller?..i thought use of a keyboard and mouse on console was considered an unfair advantage to other console players and was called cheating? (pls correct me if im wrong im going off what ive heard)

[dense willow]

Aim assist doesn't feel like it's working since the new update please leave a reaction if any other console players have noticed this as well

[wary valley]

Throwing Knives

• Added new trail effects to make the projectiles easier to see

• Shortened the lifetime of Knives stuck in metal surfaces

Yeah this is great and all but can my throwing cards skin show me cards in the wall/metal surfaces instead of knives? It's KILLING my immersion in the practice range.

[plucky torrent]

NEW bug I found. At least in the practice range, backstabbing with the knife no longer gives the yellow hitmarker, instead just a white hitmarker.

[feral canopy]

If it wasn't intended it wouldn't be a literal achievement lol

[nimble steppe]

https://www.reachthefinals.com/patch-notes-7

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Console

• Fixed an issue that allowed Mouse and Keyboard to be enabled on some consoles

[strong pendant]

The change they made was to balance console lobbies so that players on Kbm wouldn’t have an unfair advantage, the thing is, there aren’t any console lobbies. The game only features cross play lobbies. So by removing Kbm on Xbox, they removed the ability for console players to have an equal playing field with the pc players they are going up agains

[stiff tusk]

Lights do the most damage

[gloomy wraith]

@hybrid kraken @feral osprey

[tough kraken]

game wont start since last update

can someone help?

reach support and did a bunch of troubleshooting with no success so far

[foggy orbit]

Explains why embark are taking a very stubborn approach on balance changes.

[prime wing]

c4 whiners finally got their way while also getting multiple buffs in the same patch, ya HATE to see it though. On a side note blowing up walls is way too powerful and allows enemies to follow me when I don't play my class correctly, could we remove destruction entirely in the next patch plz?

[fringe pilot]

+Increase damage per pellet on SH1900. 10 damage per pellet makes it do a maximum of 300 damage per mag. Impossible to kill heavies now, even with a melee. 11 damage seems like a good compromise, lights can 2 shot than melee a heavy for kill.
+Increase damage for RPG back to 150 so it can 1 shot lights, maybe decrease damage area or increase falloff so it cannot do so much damage to teams.
+Increase damage on SA1216. It now has a slower DPS than the M60. So it is worse in every way.

Just based on the patch notes. Does not include balance issues that have not been addressed since last patch.

🅰️ - SH1900 change
🅱️ - RPG Change
🇨 - SA1216 Change
🤡 - Hurt my feelings

[turbid moss]

Faster health regen:

Faster for mediums and lights
And keep it as it is for heavies

[crisp oxide]

light and heavy unusable. GGS embark. you guys listen to the community which is great. but in this case you fucked up. godamnit im so mad. this game was so amazing now its complete shit unless youre a medium.

[gray folio]

yeah its meant to be played on controller but some people prefer kbm and its just dominant it would level the playing field if we could use kbm on console compared to the people on pc its not cheating if its allowed + this should be just for crossplay

[subtle oak]

I’m on PS5, crossplay off but we are getting mixed lobbies as if it was on.

So crossplay broken?

[maiden frigate]

state of soloQ bank it : only medium with recon, GOOD JOB EMBARK ❤️

[sudden topaz]

I dont know which channel is the right one to post this in but I've just launched the new update and gotten a warning from easy anti cheat for using cheat software... I'm not?!?! anyone know where I need to go?

[sage bison]

Again, as a pc player I don't understand why they would remove mnk from console, I'd love an explanation for that. The problem with consoles is roller trash abusing aim assist (aka cheats) to get unnaturally attainable aim, going way farther than simply compensating for a controller having less precision than a mnk. I can't believe how many casuals are seriously whining about the fact they can't outaim PC players using cheats (aim assist is soft cheats), when PC players have to actually train their aim and aim assist is a literal cheat that good console players can abuse to achieve aim superior to what is achievable on PC, again, because it is literal cheats.

If the game isn't fun because you can't outaim PC players, get better aim shitter. In some games mnk top level mnk players HAVE TO switch to console becaus the aim assist is so strong, it is better than anything achievable by mnk, I would argue this was the case before the aa nerfs in the finals but is less the case now. If you are a casual who only has fun by abusing aa to make up for your shitty aim, skill. issue.

[spark sparrow]

^^^ totally agree

[severe mason]

Heavy is still fun and not absolutely broken. Good challenge.

Medium is the same. Really good all around. Can't really go wrong.

Light is really fun still. I think I'm just not good at being light, because there's some cracked light players.

[queen rover]

Playerbase about to crater after this clown patch💀

[wanton quarry]

Fix the AA slowdown on ps5 within 20m bug. tysm

[tender minnow]

I dont understand why keyb and mouse is removed on consoles like the game is literally crossplay!!
nuke nerf shouldnt have been SO big making them totally unviable, it's a desturction, physics sandbox game shouldve stopped with c4 nerf or shouldnt have made the nukes so heavy
competitive mode's only logical option is medium, all classes should be necessary in a class based game this is actually braindead

[polar ice]

Not a bug. Read the patch notes.

[mortal creek]

The only thing that made the game fun as a heavy was nerfed to the ground with this patch.
How does a C4 make a gas barrel weigh 5T??

[earnest granite]

1.I love to play as the heavy class and now both heavy and light are unplayable,medium with the model 1887 is overpowered ,fix the heavy and the light

2.When a person loses a match ,the person is rewarded with 80-100 VRS and on winning receives a maximum or 110 VRS ,The difference in winning and losing is too less and winning a game feels much less satisfactory ,Same is with the tournament When a team wins all 3 rounds ,the max reward is 330 VRS but it should be more as winning 3 rounds in succession is much more difficult and many times the teammates don't play well so it becomes even more difficult ,so the rewards for winning a game and a tournament should be increased .

3.Lastly when a person unlocks most of the gadgets and weapons he has no where to spend his VRS ,so I recommend that there should be a system that a person can convert 1000VRS to 100 multibucks(The payed currency)

4.Pls balance the classes in the game sometimes the heavy is too powerful with what feels like unlimited health and then a invisible light player empties an entire mag of xp-54 in ur head u can do nothing abt it.Sometimes the light player do extreme dmg and some times they do little to no dmg ,same for the heavy class

5.i played abt 10 tournaments and got monaco 2014 in like 8 of them ,pls let me play other maps

6 The most imp ,it takes abt 15-20 min to join a game of ranked in asian server.

[narrow parrot]

The double c4 on a barrel still oneshots heavy medium and light, saying that it’s not good anymore is a absolute delusional take. It had to be nerfed and it got nerfed. You can still kill easy people without needing to „aim“ a gun. Heavy still is very strong, it’s at the same level as medium now, playstyle is different, key is teamplay. Lights are only good in 20% of the playerbase hands and that’s because those people are just better and know how to use it. For the rest of the 80% of the playerbase its „weak“ because it is still getting killed by a slight touch of something that does damage, yes. Thats why there’s basically no lights in ranked. Medium because of the FCARs damage is the strongest rn in a overall take.

[quaint vigil]

VRS to multibucks is the best option, just do this

[gusty surge]

Fix the dagger

[misty owl]

FIX THE DAGGER, PLEASE!
Remove the melee auto aim(or make an option to disable it) and fix the hitbox of players back.

It's trash compared to any other weapon. Fixing this things will make it better. And a prefect buff would be removing charge on rc

[plucky torrent]

Dagger nerf is bad. It takes 7 strikes to kill a heavy that can melt you in three shots

[pallid gull]

Well it's pretty simple.

Mostly m&k has to be connected with extra hardware to console which also has mods and makros like anti-recoil scripts preinstalled.
Even works for controller. I won't name any brands for obvious reasons.

And don't be ignorant enough to believe that most people owning such hardware won't be using its cheating software on it.

So it's a pretty simple and effective anti-cheat measure for console.

[vagrant swift]

I don't know how bad nexon is breathing down your neck but 10 euro for a camo texture and a sticker is not a good pricing model to get people to spend money

[swift pulsar]

Make recon senses into a new ability called recon pulse. It's wallhacks but only a 1s pulse of them. Then add a few charges like dash for light.

[noble nimbus]

recon needs more nerf plzzzz. Flanks are basically impossible especially against a triple M team that's good.

[strong pendant]

Dog, games like Fortnite, COD, Overwatch, even Roblox have Kbm, anti-cheat exists and can be very effective at preventing many of these problems, but if your still concerned with fairness, they can do what Overwatch did and prevent console Kbm in ranked games

[quaint jackal]

put aim assist back pls 😂

[valid night]

why all weapon have ads spread now except medium weapon?

[void horizon]

Oh it was intended. Just not meant to be the ridiculously op Strat it is now. Hence C4 getting nerfed along with throwable. Did you not read patch notes??

[sour bane]

I don't think recon senses is healthy for the long term future of the game. Anyone learning game sense, being sneaky, spawns, flow of the game, is automatically nullified. Rotations to points are automatically detected (I know because I use it in ranked)

Recon Senses is legal dev-sanctioned wall hacks and it's frustrating that this is something that's an ability in the game on arguably the best class in the game

Wall hack meta was a big boon to the Apex competitive community for a whole year (with Seer being a must pick). Lion in Siege was a boon for a few weeks with that also being a must pick. And yet Recon Senses is better than both those abilities combined.

As someone patiently waiting for some improvements to class balance, I think the changes to Heavy and Light has been good! But Medium surprisingly (and the most played class in ranked) was untouched. Mind boggling.

I was genuinely hoping todays 5 page balance changes was going to do something to address arguably the most powerful two abilities in the game for ranked (Recon and Defib), but instead we saw nothing of the sorts. In fact, Recon was actually buffed minorly

I would love a comment and or statement from the devs on how they feel about this ability?

[grim edge]

I don't know what setting or driver or what is causing this issue, but me and my friends have been getting errors like being kicked from servers or "system integrity check failed" errors.

I'm hoping I can get some help from a dev to figure out what exactly is causing this to be triggered and how I can fix it. I just want to be able to play the game without worrying about being kicked out of the game randomly.

[undone cobalt]

You know it's bad when double recon is viable with a heavy instead of some type of healer
@abstract patio as long as you got one with wallhacks heals is extremely valuable when playing with a tank with double shields that can also c4 rpg doorways to instakill anyone pushing

[quick coyote]

It doesn't work.

[abstract patio]

wall hacks > healing always....???

[crisp oxide]

explain how heavy is not broken when rpg is trashed and nukes are trashed and mesh shield is weakened.

[willow laurel]

if both of your meds have recon and knows how to play, yes recon is far better on both of them, the damages they don't do while healing are a huge factor

[round monolith]

NGL zero AA for console players in a movement heavy game is dumbest move

[cold musk]

Theres no AA 🥲

[sonic axle]

fix the healing beam in ranked man 3 people are absolutely ridiculous to use it the turn into a healing orgy

[toxic saffron]

They really nerfed lights, took the boring option to nerfing nukes (just make barrels explode in your hands when shot so it is still fun), and didn't touch medium at all???

Bruh. Good thing I only use medium in tanked tournaments because these changes are pretty disappointing

[tame pivot]

the rpg is still 140 damage, nukes are still possible with red canisters and mesh shield is still 1000 HP

[nocturne rose]

You can use a gun to kill people

[untold pendant]

give the riot shield more love, please embark its been in the shadows long enough

[harsh trail]

i am once again asking for a throwing knives buff to make it a viable weapon please embark

[brisk sonnet]

am i the only one having problems when respawning ? i cant shoot i cant throw nades

[gray folio]

with what extra hardware? you dont need extra hardware to connect kbm?

[sinful gazelle]

Yeah. Heavy is still pretty good, the stuff got nerf a little bit. Proby to test how it is.

[gleaming frost]

somtimes that happened to me just mash buttons until something happen

[wanton quarry]

Makes sense in a game like R6, not this.

Embark - Fix AA slowdown on ps5 within 20m bug. tysm

[lime isle]

Dont listen to anyone complaining about this patch, just need to add a ranked matchmaking and nerf defibs

[tough kiln]

Lol People whining because they can't get free kills with nuke barrels or one shot a light with RPG anymore are a joke. Get better at shooting or don't play a shooter.

[midnight canopy]

This channel is literally meant for constructive criticism. Also it's basically a consensus that recon needs to be nerfed as well

[quasi fiber]

Why are people asking for defib nerf? I don't find it op

[tacit tapir]

more about the ability to instantly bring someone back in a fight, and the revived player getting invulnerablility frames, making it dumb easy to chain defibs

[earnest granite]

1.I love to play as the heavy class and now both heavy and light are unplayable,medium with the model 1887 is overpowered ,fix the heavy and the light

2.When a person loses a match ,the person is rewarded with 80-100 VRS and on winning receives a maximum or 110 VRS ,The difference in winning and losing is too less and winning a game feels much less satisfactory ,Same is with the tournament When a team wins all 3 rounds ,the max reward is 330 VRS but it should be more as winning 3 rounds in succession is much more difficult and many times the teammates don't play well so it becomes even more difficult ,so the rewards for winning a game and a tournament should be increased .

3.Lastly when a person unlocks most of the gadgets and weapons he has no where to spend his VRS ,so I recommend that there should be a system that a person can convert 1000VRS to 100 multibucks(The payed currency)

4.Pls balance the classes in the game sometimes the heavy is too powerful with what feels like unlimited health and then a invisible light player empties an entire mag of xp-54 in ur head u can do nothing abt it.Sometimes the light player do extreme dmg and some times they do little to no dmg ,same for the heavy class

5.i played abt 10 tournaments and got monaco 2014 in like 8 of them ,pls let me play other maps

6 The most imp ,it takes abt 15-20 min to join a game of ranked in asian server.

[plucky torrent]

The instant revives and invincibility frames feels unfair quite often. Getting a whole player back at that you cant even shoot at in an instant is just discouraging to play against.

[swift pulsar]

this!!

[full thistle]

Nerf defibs, nerf reckon, rework light class cos it's useless for ranked, Add mnk support for consoles

[faint saddle]

The Finals changes:

The Dagger critical damage backstab feedback is gone; you receive the regular hitmarker on critical hits, which is quite annoying.

They should keep the superglide mechanic.

The Recon sense is bugged and can only be activated until it runs out, instead of the timer. They Nerfed it with this bug; it's now a one-time use.

The Throwing knives' visuals are too large and way too easy to see; they need a slight buff in spread when jumping.

The Light Shotgun nerf is not noticeable, and you can still one-pump lights, but not two-pump heavies anymore.

Most known exploits that are gone:

• Heavy Class shotgun reload swap to skip the barrel swap.

• Lights grappling onto a motion sensor; they should keep that for a few light playing hook + motion sensor.

There is still a bug when you have two contestants equipped with the same weapon in the primary slot. When you change the skin on one of them, the other one bugs out, and you cannot swap skins anymore. Also, you can't change charms or stickers during that.

[sacred harness]

let us name loadouts

[fiery thorn]

I feel they should make the recon senses like the HRV from Blacklight Retribution. (If anyone remembers that game) Get rid of the activation and deactivation cooldown, but introduce an animation that you have to do to get in and out, so it isn’t I stand like invis. Also make it to where you cannot shoot while using recon. Whenever I first used recon I immediately remembered the HRV from blacklight.

[supple flare]

Just make it so I can play against people of my skill level pls

[pliant rock]

still struggling with optimization issues, please embark fix the fps drops its insufferable

[humble folio]

Daily tasks are bugged

[quick coyote]

Love the new solo mode thx

[blissful bridge]

Exactly how most opinions are formed. 100%.

[spare nebula]

Fix crossplay p

[fringe pilot]

The Light Shotgun nerf is not noticeable
🧢

[dapper flicker]

Been loving the game since release, love it more with the new update. Absolute GOAT devs.

[gloomy wraith]

Stay mad

[proven sapphire]

[Bug Report] New C4 damage values not applied when two charges explode at once.
I made a steam forum post (with video example) about it:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073850/discussions/0/4133808627030553185/
Don't where else I could posts this, anyone has any ideas?

[short oracle]

"Fixed an issue where players could use Quick Melee on ladders"

fr.. just made it a bit harder to break, idk why that change

[shell jacinth]

Whack store selection 🥱

[quick coyote]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3126170544

[broken lake]

embark should let us hold the backstab again

[sour bane]

I can't believe they nerfed the best equipment of each Lifht and Heavy and didn't touch any of our stuff actual GOAT devs

Medium supremacy, seethe Lights and Heavy

Gonna go back to abusing legal dev sanctioned wall hacks in ranked

[hasty eagle]

something about this feels... off

[turbid bluff]

anyones aim assist not working?

[oak kernel]

Idk why the new game mode isn't just DM. Having to cash out makes heavies have a pretty tough time I find

[astral abyss]

Please give us 120 fps on consoles, Embark.

[harsh trail]

day 24 of asking for a throwing knives bug fix/balance patch to make them a viable weapon option

disappointed at the results of this patch so i will try to include more specific requests from now on:

the current throwing knives deal great damage but the problem comes from the clunkiness of the projectiles and the inconsistency of their behavior. some things i think could be done to resolve this issue:

• slightly reduce projectile dropoff
• slightly increase projectile speed
• tighten spread of knives while sliding/sprinting (as they’re wildly inaccurate currently)
• allow right click to be held

please show some love to this weapon embark i will not stop until we get something i am begging. see you all on day 25 😔✊

[tough kiln]

I motion to have this comment repeatedly posted every 15 minutes until Embark listens lol.

Also, while I fully agree with everything said in @sour bane 's comment I genuinely appreciate how many important things have been addressed in the patch that people pointed out as issues. It does feel like Embark is listening. Still surprised recon and defib didn't get the nerfs (or rework for recon) I feel they need.

Overall I love this game. Well done devs. Just please continue to listen and improve so we can all enjoy your game for many years.

[icy charm]

[Bug Report] On console, if you rebind your ping Button to A (XBox) or X (Playstation) you cant respawn anymore.

[sick marten]

Having the same issue as well, you get to the EAC screen and it just stop?

[hollow shoal]

i noticed the patch notes mentioned c4 will affect throwables now as far as speed/distance, however im noticing the red canisters seem to act exactly the same unless im just not noticing the difference lol

[sonic axle]

someone has to fix the shop issue with it telling you the same stuff is new after every match, its so annoying

[shrewd vine]

Create a ping that signifies: 'Don't plant' or something. So many people don't understand the way economy works in tournaments and I've lost many games because of solo teammates planting when we're up enough to win by doing nothing.

[minor sierra]

Am i the only one that isnt able to get in in a match or even the firing range? it give me the countdown the second its loading in my game just fully crashes.

[restive scaffold]

Game just insta crashes now, after the update, without crash reports 😭

[tough kraken]

yeah exactly

[wise flame]

So how exactly does getting banned for idling work? Does the game calculate you idling multiple matches in a row or is it only after one match. Because if it's the latter then let's say someone had to leave their game because something urgent happend irl to them.

[tender minnow]

Depoyable explosives such as C4, Breach Charges and Explosive Mines will now add mass to throwable objects, causing them to travel less far when thrown
less is an understatement, shouldve stopped with c4 debuff because that was what made nukes op, im convinced this artificial debuff is temporary, nukes is such a cool thing making the game standout more and making them totally unviable has to be a mistake

shadow changes for the lewis gun and other weird bugs along with removing keyb n mouse on a cross platform game only creates more trust issues, literally every other multiplayer fps game has keb n mouse support on console such a weird decision

[wanton quarry]

There is a AA slowdown on ps5 within 20m bug.

[blazing atlas]

Man I want my AA back on console!

[grave sierra]

i've been playing in the practice range testing some stuff out, might have found some bugs which ill explore and report later, but i noticed that dummies aren't affected by a few things, they don't take afterburn from fire damage, just the raw damage from the weapons and the fire puddle if they are standing on one, which makes the flamethrower feel a bit worse than it is, they don't activate motion sensors, aren't affected by the glitch grenades or at least don't show the glitched effect, and friend dummies aren't affected by the vanishing bomb. id prefer if damage and gadgets worked on dummies w the same consistency as human players, just to make testing results more accurate

[plucky torrent]

Allow lights to regenerate health faster. The class is too underpowered and that compliments its play style.

[drowsy shell]

Can't post images here yet, so here is my hot take on the recent patch

(triple stack mediums are happy)
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/D0hTvNZnrk

[crystal cloak]

The c4 nerf is immaculate

[regal dirge]

As long as the bug persists that puts you into pc lobbies when crossplay is turned off, especially with the nerfed aim assist, i'm gonna take a break off this game. Been playing every day since launch

[plucky veldt]

light RIP

[modern wedge]

please add team name grand slam

[bleak coral]

play some aim training and come back!

[short oracle]

wtf how many tons are those c4s?

[quick coyote]

I agree. It's so cool to be one shot or squad wiped from across the map with an instant kill button! I hope they revert it too.

[wary valley]

Bump;

Would love to also get my throwing cards skin to actually throw cards from my hand, and not knives 🥲

[mellow talon]

ranks should be

Unranked
Bronze
Silver
Gold
Platinum
Diamond
Champion
Top 500

That will 100% even the playing field out

I was in a lobby as a Plat 3 and played against two dudes in the Top 500.

[undone belfry]

Is anyone elses console turning up like craizy? It wasnt before the patch. My series x is so loud now while playing. And its no series x issue all other games are fine

[compact fog]

why are dagger backstabs not crits anymore

[zenith glen]

I'm fine with the RPG not one shooting lights, it is fair. Yet in that case the rpg should be able not kill its user in one shot if it is aimed at the users feet while trying to kill an opponent. It makes not sense that in a similar radius blast that the light survives and not the user heavy user fo the weapon (both full health).

[balmy abyss]

Can we get the ability to reroll daily and weekly missions, I hate the melee ones

[turbid bluff]

Anyone on pc having aim assist not working even though its turned on?

[stoic crow]

Did any of the devs/community managers comment on the recoil patterns having bloom at the moment? Is it a bug or...

[sinful gazelle]

Maybe don’t cheat lol?

[cerulean elbow]

please add a hud opacity slider for like objectives and revive symbol

[broken lake]

while they're at it, let us hold dagger backstab again

[hollow shoal]

idk guys seems the red canisters working fine lol time to make people angry 😄

[restive scaffold]

Sniper fixes:
Remove damage drop off completely.
Give it 100% scoped air accuracy.
Make the single bullet reload speed slightly faster.
Decrees the mag to 5 bullets. 🙏

[true grove]

Since update I have no audio 😭

[junior ridge]

Give recon senses a small surrounding zone like for sonar nades.

[subtle niche]

I wish they would fix the bug where you can't fire your weapon until you die and change your loadout

[silk cedar]

Aim assist is absolutely broken. Doesn’t work at all anymore…

[devout geode]

Aim assist is non existent. It’s bs

[minor sierra]

man at least yall can get in a game -_-

[copper lark]

ok all the nerfs are good, but could we get more buffs for light and heavy (maybe more options for heavy like new gadgets) medium is extremely dominant in the meta and nerfing it would be annoying for so many people(i can get behind defib nerf)

[sour bane]

Have 200 hours on Medium since closed beta

My suggestion for buffing Medium class, it honestly feels a little weak in my hands (usually am .2 k/d on a good day, I can't even hit high Silver)

• Give Defib 2 charges, with a small delay between each Defib. Invincibility lasts 5 seconds (you shouldn't die immediately after Defib), while full healing the Medium defibbing and reloading the Defibbed player (it sucks to die immediately and can't shoot back)
• Recon Senses needs to have better visibility, and work at all times. Add audio cues too for those that don't see as well
• Give FCAR higher headshot damage and 5 more bullets, it's too weak right now. Lower recoil too
• Double the Turret's health, it's too weak right now. It can be shot down in a second
• Heal beam should increase damage by 50% too, it's useless at its current stage, no one uses it
• Matchmaking should make at least one Medium mandatory, other classes can choose what they want
• I think Medium needs more team utility, maybe a special one-time use item that lets you full Defib your entire team when you're close to them and their statues are together. The team utility of this class is genuinely weak. To make this balance, make it so that you need to "charge" the item with kills before you can use it.

Vote if you agree 👇.

[spark sparrow]

There’s no aim assist on keyboard and mouse on console. Idk why people are voting to take it out, I see it as playing the same way on pc. If it somehow is enabled. Why can’t the finals take aim assist out when using keyboard and mouse and still let console players use keyboard and mouse.

[sudden marlin]

Has anyone encountered the problem that aim assist does not work at all?

[short oracle]

funny how clips of sniper trickshot were only possible cuz they used a bug with taser, and now is no longer possible

[violet ocean]

it's just 1500, you can do it in one game

[edgy dove]

Hello, the mouse and keyboard do not work on my Xbox after the update?

[boreal zodiac]

There’s 0 aim assist slowdown within 20 m

[inner flax]

bankit vaults glitch thru floor constantly

[thorny bone]

i keep getting this error called "failed to open descriptor file ../../../Discovery/Discovery.uproject" means? it happens when i launch the game and prevents me from playing

[heavy citrus]

New game mode is terrible, it was really a mistake to add it
No point in adding solo modes to a coop game like that, especially when everyone is just camping on banks

[gleaming frost]

AA is still bugged on Consoles.
Matches are still bunch of melee weapons
DB shotgun can be removed from the game if it cannot kill a Heavy.
Shotguns, Sniper and LH1 can be removed from consoles since no one is using them

[scarlet junco]

Add custom game

[surreal meadow]

Defib nerf idea:

• Light rez is instant
• Med rez is half a second
• Heavy rez is a full second

also make light more viable in ranked pls

[fathom pivot]

Guys, it's a game with crossplay, that is, we play against people using Mouse and Keyboard too, I started the game and I'm already addicted to playing with it, I bought the Pass yesterday and I was super hyped, but not being able to play with Mouse and Keyboard is ridiculous, do you intend to provide support for using it??

And I know it was on purpose, but it doesn't make sense

[manic quartz]

It wasn’t a “mistake.” It’s an experiment, it’s fine if it doesn’t pan out, that’s the point of doing them in the first place.

[stuck depot]

Read the patch notes, they purposely removed it

[gloomy wraith]

Any Dev reading this Goodjob on fu*kin over every console player AA is fully gone now How u go from 50% AA to 35% then LTERAL 0 @feral osprey Patch is 💩

[sage bison]

haha rollers in shambles rn, time to get a PC boys

[plucky torrent]

I mean people who aare actually playing on controllers need some form of AA

[bold notch]

pinging a CM to complain about a patch

someone needs to make a The Finals Bingo Card for all the chat tropes that we see

[brazen zodiac]

This is for a message to the devs of the finals I'm done playing this game I do not find it any fun I do not find it balanced anymore when this game first launched it was extremely fun and extremely balanced but now with all the nerves and changes to the game it is incredibly unbalanced and no longer fun I haven't picked the game up in 2 weeks and now I hear there's more changes so I'm definitely deleting the game now wish you guys would just fix the bugs and not do so many changes with nerfs and stuff

[compact fog]

controllers just need to aim better and stop aa crutch

[jovial bane]

Maybe it’s time to “420 falife” and chill out dude lmao

[quick coyote]

Okay the troll posts were funny the first 20 times now it's just too obvious.

[wanton quarry]

Fix AA slowdown on ps5 within 20m bug. tysm

[pearl mica]

Patch day and no changes to matchmaking. I am solo queue Gold 3 get teamed with two silver 3 players and get matched against Lystic, the No. 89 on the entire leaderboard.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!?!!

[valid tree]

Yeah the ranked system doesn’t make any sense

[vernal rock]

is anything going to be done about the sniper sway?

[tired crescent]

Really wished that watches would show on top of gloves and top parts more, I bought the watch because I thought it was dope but I can barely use it with anything

[round monolith]

They put everyone zoom multiplyer at 120% check that

[green owl]

Adding random spread without mentioning in the patch notes was rlly weird

[shrewd vine]

Same, Gold 1 and got matched against a trio with the #4, #6 world and an ex-OW pro.

[sonic spoke]

Go back in to settings. It was reset.

[formal river]

Not enough. Not enough my friend. Need at least 3 defibs to be viable

[unkempt urchin]

hey so i got the pop up that i am using cheat software, what could trigger that?

[south pumice]

when i try to open my game it gives me a warning to stop using cheat software but i am not cheating and the only apps i have open are my browser, music, discord, and steam so i'm not sure what to do and it says if i keep using cheats i'll get suspended from the game does anyone know what to do in this case?

[quick coyote]

If you use cheating software.

[sudden marlin]

and how i supposed to play the game if i have just only sensitivity reduction on 20m+. Back AA devs bro

[fathom pivot]

#revertthechangeinkeybordinconsoles

[subtle oak]

Crossplay is broken and aim assist is gone. Rest in peace console players

[sour bane]

make it 4

[heavy citrus]

Spending that much time into developing that kind of game mode is a mistake in my opinion
Time is precious and there were no need to do such development
Adding more maps for example would have been way more beneficial
Or even focusing on bugs such as announcers saying a comeback when no one has points, lod not properly displayed and so on, so it was a mistake in my opinion

[severe mason]

Because you can still beam lights and meds.

[cerulean elbow]

OPAQUE HUD (pls i beg)

[manic quartz]

Bank It is already a developed game mode, they just increased the number of teams and reduced the players per team, you’re way overselling the development cost of what this is and you’re way UNDERselling how much work goes into a new map.

It’s a false equivalency.

[royal flume]

Why does this game cater so heavily towards PC? They can use either input method, meanwhile m&k support is removed from console. Please add performance mode to console and buff AA slightly or let us use m&k as well. It’s a bummer that this game doesn’t even hold 60 fps. I don’t care how good a game’s graphics look. If it’s running choppy, it looks like garbage

[nimble steppe]

https://youtu.be/TNbZInMqIvE?si=16ZzHPR9UkjKTbly

[reef jasper]

Recon:

• games are entirely too dependent on which teams have recon or not, the information gained from the ability is removing a lot of key elements from the game. Movement doesn’t matter much because recon allows you to simply track EVERYBODY ANYWHERE.

DEFIB:

• the invulnerability off revival should be much shorter and not allow you to shoot your gun while invulnerable. Cooldown should be increased. Too many teams are abusing 3 mediums and ruining the ability to play diverse teams and win.

Light:

• this class is not in a good spot, there are very few players who are able to find success with it in ranked, definitely something that needs some work ups to be more equal to other classes

reposting so it’s not lost

[cunning stag]

Console players say "get a PC if you wanna play MnK" but PC has controller support and aim assist just like console 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡. It's so stupid not to have MnK on console.

Why are console players so afraid of MnK??? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[feral sage]

everytime i try to launch the game i have the connextion error TFLA0002 what can i do?

[boreal wagon]

Absolutely outrageous to me that they barely nerfed recon senses which is by far the strongest ability in the game.. Id rather nukes be too strong over literal legal wallhacks...

This single lazily designed ability just completely counters light class' intended gameplay style as a whole

[junior ridge]

Rework or remove recon senses.
Remove defib invinciblity.
Rework spawns.

[gloomy wraith]

Ur more a joke then the clowns u put in ur message

[tame pivot]

Reverse the bloom changes on all weapons

@celest forum all guns have a lot more innacuracy now when spraying

[celest forum]

What's bloom change?

[turbid bluff]

Not playing till they fix random recoil what kinda crap is that

[sage bison]

I like these changes

[abstract patio]

look how up to change your mouse dpi and git gud kid

[blissful bridge]

Exactly, it's a counter to lights.

Nerfing one class is not the way to buff another.

Light needs rework, not recon.

[broken lake]

it's annoying to pull off some 900 IQ movement play for a flank, only to run around the corner and see them pre-aiming you with an Fcar because they could just see you through the walls

[latent lava]

since when is the turret so strong?

[marsh pine]

Hey, where is the place to give some feedback about video settings? Im sorry, im new

[wary wedge]

hey I'm dropping in to ask if anyone knows if the game still keeps crashing and freezing PC's randomly? (I know they finally added it to the known issues list, and this patch says nothing about them)

I really don't feel like launching the game to find out since I have to reset my BIOS settings every time the game crashes since it causes other games to crash as well 🙂

[tender minnow]

love you

[tough glade]

For those who are getting an error message saying "Cheat software detected." after the update, be sure there are none overlay applications that could be flagged as a false positive.

I got an app that's called MicMute that I'm able to mute/unmute my mic with a set key, and after closing it I was able to open the game with no problems again.

Kinda annoying and I hope it gets fixed.

[glad delta]

I'm happy they buffed lh1 but idk it might still be 1 damage short we'll see

[sinful trail]

Remove Bloom PLS! bring back recoil pattern 😦 ty

[hollow shoal]

can we get a weapon xp adjustment for certain weapons that dont get free "poke" damage throughout matches? got at least 200 hours on heavy and have played the shotgun a lot and im barely a quarter of the way through that last level on yet meanwhile all gadgets and the lewis gun are maxed and it was noticeably faster being able to get damage from just shooting people. problem is the shotgun is pretty much a kill or no kill weapon, i cant just shoot people from long range and pick up easy damage which seems to correlate directly to weapon xp, rather than actual kills

[slender mountain]

in the bases loaded set there should be baseballs to replace glitch nade and flash maybe

[carmine warren]

YES the bloom thing looks so bad. I hope it was added on accident, since it's not on the FCAR. <@&1012034066876473384> can you confirm if this was on purpose or an accidental change?

[quick coyote]

Why balance like this

[outer sonnet]

If you think they should nerf Light, you're crazy, you're delusional, or you just can't play. Light is more balanced than Thanos in the Avengers movie. The stun gun can be easily countered by anyone who can aim, and the weapons do no damage. Also, you can easily spot people using the cloak; they can't sneak cashouts because they will literally get one-tapped by a gas mine. Turn on your brain and think.

[sick marten]

Still can't even launch the game, also buff dagger pls 🙏

[quick coyote]

beautiful patch. dagger and throwing knife buffs soon brothers

[heavy citrus]

Yeah I guess you don't have any clue regarding game development
So I'll leave it there, thanks

[valid tree]

Probably hard to change those as the user base is very small compared to other guns. So data won’t be as easy to average out

[sturdy galleon]

can we please get the watch to be visible with all upper body pieces!!!

[brave quarry]

Still no MMR for Ranked? Seriously ? 10M players is enough no ?

[gilded sleet]

100%

[daring fossil]

you'd think the fact there is barely any data for those weapons shows there is a problem

[lament minnow]

only casual tournament players are complaining about lights. easily countered in ranked and most of the nerfs were unnecessary. (except stun i agree on effect time being reduced.)

on another note, recon sense completely counters the entire point of playing light, and it should function like a bloodhound pulse not literal wallhacks. Medium has the easiest to control and highest damaging weapons aswell, and im not saying nerf the fcar or akm i think they are fine

however change recon's functionality entirely, ranked is unplayable as a light or anyone not running recon as well.

[silver warren]

Its saying I have a cheat software but I don't and none of my applications have macros can someone help?

[bright knoll]

did anyone see the "leg bug" at the final screen, when the winners are walking? 😄

[nova dragon]

Fix matchmaking. I'm by no means a pro, make fun of me all u like chat, but I'm a casual player and I'm tired of getting thrown into matches with people with twitch handles on their names.

[manic quartz]

It’s okay to be wrong, it’s not okay to be wrong so terribly ungracefully. Hope you can work on that next time you’re incorrect.

[spark sundial]

CUSTOM GAMES WHEN? OR 1V1 MAPS

[quick coyote]

no comment, we don't know if intentional or not, we gathering evidence to ask devs!

[quick coyote]

no idea if intentional or accidental or what, pls hang tight!

[brazen lotus]

please give us more crosshair options

[compact fog]

dagger backstabs dont show as crits anymore is that on purpose

[ocean locust]

Make it so that glitch nades make screens they effect go black

[boreal wagon]

I disagree with that. Recon senses is so prevalent rn that it just counters any team that is not using it not just light. Light is just the most punished by it

[sonic spoke]

Twitch handle just means you get to embarrass them live on the Internet, like the contestant last night who ran into all the mines, rpg, and bullets from our team, over and over! Lol ♥️

[sage bison]

Recon is broken and wasn't remotely nerfed hard enough

[scenic idol]

aim assist is completely gone?

[daring salmon]

pls buff aim assist on console

[quick coyote]

Turn off crossplay if you’re going to take out aim assist instead of keeping it on for everyone. PC has an unfair advantage

[sour bane]

🙏 thank you embark for nerfing light and heavy, making it even easier for me to abuse recon senses & defib in ranked 🙏

[faint saddle]

The Finals changes:

The Dagger critical damage backstab feedback is gone; you receive the regular hitmarker on critical hits, which is quite annoying.

They should keep the superglide mechanic.

The Recon sense is bugged and can only be activated until it runs out, instead of the timer. It’s bugged; it's now a one-time use.

The Throwing knives' visuals are too large and way too easy to see; they need a slight buff in spread when jumping.

The Light Shotgun nerf is not noticeable, and you can still one-pump lights, but not two-pump heavies anymore.

Most known exploits that are gone:

• Heavy Class shotgun reload swap to skip the barrel swap.

• Lights grappling onto a motion sensor; they should keep that for a few light playing hook + motion sensor.

There is still a bug when you have two contestants equipped with the same weapon in the primary slot. When you change the skin on one of them, the other one bugs out, and you cannot swap skins anymore. Also, you can't change charms or stickers during that

[karmic flax]

Can we please get the ability to customize gear in the equipment page!!??

[grave sierra]

looked into some other bugs as well, i dont mind the bloom on ads in some weapons, keeps the weapons in their proper ranges imo.
something i noticed about the gadgets adding weight to throwables is that, since each class has a different throwing strenght, light being weakest heavy being strongest, and the fact that gadgets have the same weight added to a throwable, it means that nukes are now more exclusive to the heavy class, a light throwing a canister with a breach charge on it can throw like, 8 meters sprinting 4 meters standing, heavy can throw w 2 gadgets like 15m sprinting which is still p good for its power. not sure if that's entirely a good thing? if gadgets had different weights to it i feel it'd be better?
also there's a time limit in the practice range? that's so weird

[quick coyote]

Why balance like this,dev

[quick coyote]

this is wrong. hit training, the barrels weight overrides throw distance between classes

[daring fossil]

Recon Senses

Increased activation cost from 1s to 1.5s

Decreased minimum charge time to activate from 2.5s to 2s

RPG

Player damage decreased from 150 to 140

What the shit kind of backward ass nerf is this?

Recon sense needs to go or needs a proper nerf, this ability is bullshit and this nerf was lazy and barely a nerf, and RPG should be able to one-shot a lights (I main light), I'm losing faith in this game fast.

Still no fix for quick melee cancel spam that lets you hit people 5 times in 1 second.

Dagger and throwing knives are still mostly useless.

I was excited for this patch until I read the notes, what a joke you guys.

@glad delta you obvious can't read and see the part where I said I main light

[open elk]

Feature suggestion:
It would be nice if we had a skin locker, someway to safe judt outfits and not a whole loudout just like on the outfits tab for purchased skin outfits. Just that we could save customized outfits.

[glad delta]

you obviously play heavy and have never been 1 shot every 30s by an rpg that doesn't even need to hit you dead on

[marsh pine]

Hey guys, I think you should have a setting in the Video Settings to select the desire display for the game. In my case, I play videogames in my extended display, so every time I want to play The Finals I have to press alt + enter to put the game in window mode then move it to the second display and then set the video setting as full screen, it's very very annoying. You can check Valorant if you want to test that feature, they have it and works properly.

[fervent magnet]

Keyboard and mouse support on console

[cold musk]

When controller getting aim assist

[slim karma]

They added ADS bloom to every weapon except for mediums... Why????

[surreal meadow]

Bug found: when ADS tracking dart on medium you cant crouch. if you try to it glitches out a bit

[sudden marlin]

it deleted permanent

[marsh maple]

Trust me bro I get twitch people all the time but they’re useless teammates all they do is go for kills so they rarely control the cash out

[stoic crow]

Thanks for the answer!

[solar trellis]

check it now with bleeding edge

[fast bison]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[placid valley]

Add 50 extra hp to light and remain the damage of rpg at 150, light has tiny chances to win a counter with medium, even open from the back . AKM and FCAR do way better in the most of distance.

[floral thorn]

Bug found: Bloom on all guns but Fcar and auto shotty

[gilded urchin]

is there an option to activate fps counter and ping on pc

[quick coyote]

Having no aim assist on console is like giving a kid with cancer a flu shot and telling him this is gonna help make you better

[hard wind]

i feel like i shouldn't get a warning that i will be banned just for having autohotkey running, i just have a script to change my computer volume lol

[finite coyote]

Bring back aim assist

[sage bison]

Leave aim assist where it is ❤️. xDD aim assist wasn't touched this patch, please uninstall the game filthy roller casuals, don't let the door hit ya on the way out, bye bye

[fathom pivot]

#REVERTK&MINCONSOLES

[heavy citrus]

You don't need to have the last word, no issue with that
Also, saying the other one is wrong when he has another opinion than you doesn't make you smart, and no need to edit 5 times your message to seem more cleaver
I thought I was talking with someone who had knowledge on game development, it's my bad, no worries, as I said, I'll move on now

[lost cedar]

It feels like Aim Assist is gone completely

[upbeat anvil]

where is solo bank it? I dont see it as a game mode??

[royal flume]

Please. It really doesn’t feel good to play right now. It doesn’t need to be as strong as before but it’s basically non existent in its current state which sucks. It only got nerfed into the ground because PC players were abusing it, now just we’re extra screwed.

[smoky storm]

Nah M8 he's completely right on that one lmao a new map is a much bigger undertaking than making a variant of an existing game mode.

[tepid shoal]

Should people buy skins if there're actually a decent player?

[minor sierra]

Bro what is that question

[devout geode]

Thanks Finals. Will be uninstalling this game. It’s feels horrible now, aim assist is non existent. You cater to pc players. ✌🏼

[daring fossil]

I have about 500 hours in the game since alpha, 90% of that is as light, 8% as medium and I only play heavy when im forced to for contracts (which i dont even need to do now since im done with the battlepass and career). It's a fucking RPG ffs not only should it kill you, it should blow you to fucking tiny little pieces just from the concussive force. There were a dozen different ways they could have nerfed it differently without touching damage, ive seen tonnes of good suggestions and provided a bunch myself, but it's become clear they will just do the laziest nerfs possible.

[smoky gust]

funny that you say stun-gun can be countered by aim, when it literally removes the ability to aim down sight

on that "easy to see" part, would you like to prove it?

[queen cloud]

unfair is being forced to play against aimassist just because roller kids are used to having games aim for them

Aimassist is working. 35% magnetism is a lot actually and u still have snap aim on full auto guns.
Apex is 40% on pc / 60% on console,no aim snap. roller is better than mnk on pc, and playing against console feels like aimbot at times with 60%.

[sour bane]

📞 hello embark?

☎️ yes, medium?

📞 light and heavy feels a little weak, i can't even kill them with fcar and recon sense and defib

☎️ say less, let me nerf them for you

📞 thank you embark, now everyone can play medium in ranked

☎️ no problem, enjoy!

[molten dagger]

WHERE IS M AND K FOR CONSOLE

[kindred nest]

After the update i've been getting errors as well, i get the ''Certificate Check failed'' one and can't even start it up

[quick coyote]

aim assist gone , but im still gonna play the game i will just have to get used to it

[deft terrace]

All you had to do was remove the safety net around the nuke, embark. Instead, you removed the nuke.

Was it really such a foreign concept to make it so incoming fire would easily detonate a nuke? Cause that's all it needed was counter-play.

[cinder roost]

Ahaha at least they nerfed recon

[quick coyote]

[tame pivot]

nukes are still here, just use a red canister and learn to aim

[thin nexus]

@sour bane i agree 100% with that statement.

[floral cradle]

buff grapple hook pls

[silver warren]

I cant play the game because it says I have cheat software and I dont

[rancid kelp]

Flamethrower dmg buff is whatever feels like the dmg isnt problem the utility of it is

[shrewd vine]

It's not really a nerf. As a recon sense medium player, its the same as it was with like, a minor difference. It needs more drastic nerfs/ changes. Wallhacks suck to use and to play against.

[elfin swallow]

I’m liking the new fcar recoil since the patch. Consider making the other recoil patterns similar to that

[spark sundial]

did u try recon in range? because this happen only in range

[mellow gull]

Keyboard and mouse support on console please 🙏

[wide summit]

... i heard it was not effected at all, other guns were ruined lol

[mortal creek]

its not about the damage, a heavy can throw a barrel with 2 C4s at a distance of like 3 meters

[quick coyote]

kbm support on console

[languid ridge]

When you use a MnK on console, the input delay is horrible, the game doesn’t change the input hints (such as “press E to pick up”), and also you are not able to change your keybinds as the settings menus does not have a section for MnK settings if you are on console.

[hearty jasper]

on proton experimental, still crashes ):

[noble latch]

This game is good definitely prefer this over cod but I feel there needs to be more game modes like tdm or free for all that would be fun also the sniper for light needs a buff that thing is not that good

[cunning stag]

It depends mate, if you're used to playing in a good PC and switch to console, you will feel a delay but if you haven't played in a good PC, it's gonna be the same, you won't feel anything.

I used to play on a gaming laptop, switched to console and it's the same for me, I play cod and Fortnite on MnK and it feels the same, like it felt on my laptop.

Also, if the game supports MnK natively, you can change everything you want in the settings, sens as well as keybinds.

[solar trellis]

Have nothing to say it works for me

[dense orbit]

The game crash with the new version 1.5. It never crashed before

[daring fossil]

vs 100 meters like before? so you're saying nuking takes some skill and thought now? holy shit an actual thoughtful nerf, good job embark slow clap

I still think they should have just made C4 like breach charges with the cool down before placing the second one, and lowered AOE player damage, this would have stopped a lot of 2 c4 nukes.

[glacial salmon]

Why are people using this channel as a chat section? Yall willing to wait 15 minutes for a reply

@tulip wagon nuh uh no i didnt cause im big brain

[wanton quarry]

Fix AA slowdown on ps5 within 20m bug. tysm

[tulip wagon]

You just wasted yours to write that

[leaden stag]

hello. how r u?

[dapper cliff]

why in the world did they patch superglideing?

[limpid rampart]

very very late reply, but imo the first cashouts are for some type of leaderboard control. If you get the 10K + vault touch + cashbox insert, and another team gets 15K, you have the ability to wipe the 15K team to take back your spot, even if you didn't get a 15K cashout

[tough kraken]

same

[vagrant raptor]

i didn’t buy a console to sit at a desk. i want to relax on a couch and i cant do that with a controller if i have to go against m&k sweats. buy a pc if you want m&k you bum.

[still swallow]

this only works if you havent wiped, wipe the 15k team, the 15k team didnt also get a 10k cashout, and the 15k team had fewer vault touches/vaults put in cashouts than you

[mellow gull]

I would like 120 fps on the new generation of consoles. And also keyboard and mouse support.

[fast bison]

have you tried to aim on console with a controller today brother

[unkempt void]

After today's patch the aim assist is completely gone for me on xbox

[sour bane]

I expected a little better thoughtfulness towards balancing for this game. But it seems the devs aren't really seeing things the way the ranked community is. Recon Senses buffed slightly? Not reworked? Good luck with the game, Embark, am out Disappointing.

[frank talon]

Devs, thank you for the update, especially about the RPG dmg decreased to 140 (but overall the other nerfs/buffs are pretty based) I’ve never seen devs actually listening to their players. Thank you very much and keep going like that ❤️
(If you suck at this game react with the clown emoji)
Only bad thing is the stun gun nerf… but nobody is perfect

[sharp citrus]

Tik tok tik tok.... recon wasn't reworked I sense a game dying

[quick coyote]

kbm support on console

[surreal meadow]

question: why does everyone want MnK on console?? XIMing is cool now? allowed??

[dawn grove]

ur gunna open a whole can of worms buddy

[cold tulip]

great so they nerfed light and medium is still broken. just terrible. wont be playing this game for a while

[daring fog]

i feel like even though the changes were overall positive, the meta is still heavily oriented towards explosives, which takes away from the overall experience heavily. c4s should be limited to 1, with a larger AOE damage and more destructibility.

[sage bison]

I want mnk to be natively supported on console so ppl dont start using shit like XIM

[ebon peak]

Mnk support on consoles please,,, just like fortnite and warframe,,, Devs plz listen, every other thing in the game is perfectly balanced now!

[tulip wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[placid panther]

Where fsr3

[jovial leaf]

The game's tendency to punish you for disconnects is way too sensitive.

I had a game (premade team) where I lost power right at the end of match 2. I finally got back in, match 3 was about 20% done. The game had already punished me and prevented me from rejoining.

You shouldn't get a leaver penalty if you make it back in. And if you are in a premade, you shouldn't get a penalty. Your teammates can just report you for leaving if they feel like it is necessary.

[copper jetty]

Some notes: The stun gun nerf was good, but the distance imo needs to be gutted. People get crazy distance on it. Solo Bank It is good, Maybe just one more cashout station pls? The Shotgun for Medium honestly feels so inconsistent to use

[wanton quarry]

Fix AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5. tysm

[daring fossil]

c4 needed to be made like breach charges, you can still place 2 but have to wait for the second one, and it needed an AOE player damage nerf while leaving destruction AOE in tact. I'm still ok with this nerf to nukes but they have repeatidly nerfed everything the wrong way.

I'm so glad we all waited 2 months for a 5 page list of the most laziest changes I've ever seen

[solar notch]

Guys, help me solve the problem ( the finals login failed due to a service interruption please try again later ) reload the game It didn't help

[ionic totem]

The game is good but has lots of bugs. When you have custon keybinds u cant use ur self rause tokens. It makes the game so unplayable. U have to fix this so many people have this issue.

[solar cliff]

Haha mnk noobs 😄

[severe linden]

Was there an actual update to aim assist today or are people bullshitting?

[floral robin]

Remove the low gravity event!!

[quick coyote]

yeah theres an aim assist bug since todays update

[hollow dune]

what nerf did they do

[mellow gull]

I would like 120 fps on the new generation of consoles. And also keyboard and mouse support.

[eager raven]

Lol yall forgot to have the baseball bat have a swing lunge. it just lunges like the sword

lol boxbox u responded to the wrong guy

[still swallow]

im honestly pretty shocked that so few people consider the extreme centralization around the last cashout (usually 15k cashouts) a problem. is there something im missing here? does nobody else feel like the first 80% of the game is a complete joke and only the last 20% really matters and actually determines who qualified in the majority of games?

[sharp citrus]

100 percent agree bro I say this to my buddies all the time... why the heck are the later cash outs worth more money... many of times now we dominate the whole game just to get wiped and cash out stolen last second of the game . Its is quiet literally one of the worst feelings I've ever felt playing a competitive game ever. They absolutely need to rework the entire game mode FOR RANKED. 10k each cash out no matter what . Makes no sense in a Ranked environment to allow people to win based of off one last minute lucky 4th party it kills the integrity of Ranked. I've lost so many games where we get 2 cash outs lose the 3rd get wiped might even only have 1 death the whole game with 20 kills and lose...... this and recon are the reasons I will be quitting the game

[manic aspen]

nerf recon, and fix accuracy

[royal flume]

I completely agree. I think a possible solution to this would be to have the first boxes also be worth 15k. Then the 22k would still be impactful but not as much so and there would be closer matches in general

[inner flax]

ziplines attachewd to the moving elevators kick you off instantly

[minor zephyr]

The game is now crashing for every match type during the loadscreen. I cant play at all now.

[worthy mesa]

PC Client does not report to XBox App that you are "Playing The Finals".

[violet mulch]

I don't think the cashouts need to increase in price. You already have the ability to wipe a team to lower their score

[upbeat timber]

Did the Devs mean to add random bloom and increase it over all to every automatic weapon? They are so inaccurate now past close quarters. The automatic weapons feel terrible now. I wonder if it's a bug instead of an intended change?

[strong escarp]

REMOVE BLOOM ON GUNS

[uncut pier]

Do you agree that they add for all weapons that have recoil more randomness to the spread bu the recoil is the same right? And it is way worth with weapons like Lewis Gun or M60

[restive scaffold]

I mean i still hit air shots from time to time, when scoped in, but it's not 100% so it's kind of annoying.

[patent tartan]

Why do the fully auto guns have random bloom??? They already have recoil. This makes the guns feel terrible to use. Was this intentional?

[inner dagger]

Hey Guys, got this UE5 error since update. Updating windows and graphics card drivers & scanning the game files didnt help

[peak wagon]

Dude, THANK GOODNESS y’all stressing the devs out with this type of behavior 😮‍💨😭

[summer ginkgo]

I assume the gun bloom is a bug, but for now everyone has the same handicap so it’s really not a huge deal. In practice it feels different but far from unusable. My experience has just kind of shortened the engagement distance across the board (with the exception of medium weapons). Annoying, but tolerable

[wraith imp]

nerf recon

[tight spade]

everyone wonders, but complete radio silence from devs as per usual?

[smoky gust]

Please let us change specialization before a match starts

I just joined a match and got put into a team with 2 lights
I don't mind playing with 2 lights but I knew they would probably go off to do their own thing
So I would have liked to swap to recon or turret since they would have been more useful but since my medium loadouts both have heal beam I could not swap

I understand not being able to swap mid-match but why not before it starts?

[still swallow]

i think this could make the game come down to unfortunate situations where you either tie with another team or win because of vault touches, i think the real issue is how few meaningful ways there are to gain/lose money. it could also lead to strategies where teams will camp after winning the 1st cashout knowing the game wont go to a 3rd cashout if they have a money advantage from vault touches etc... experimenting with cashouts giving money over time or potentially even giving a reward for kills or a monetary cost to respawning or using certain gadgets could possibly lead to more interesting gameplay, not sure.

One idea is to introduce a gadget slot that costs money to use, certain inherently OP gadgets such as defib could be moved into this slot and could be balanced accordingly.

[sour bane]

Embark not touching Recon Senses (in any meaningful way) is a baffling decision. Completely baffling. Ranked prior to the patch was already MMM/MMH. After this, it's an even more shining endorsement of that meta, which is a completely snoozefest to play (yes, I play Medium with Recon. No, it's not fun at all).

Does Embark think toggable wall hacks that works across the map is the way forward for this game? Who are you catering this game to?

Disappointment is a massive understate at this decision.

[fluid raptor]

Create a new profile with that special.

[blissful furnace]

They didn't touch turret so what makes you think they'll touch the recon senses.

[covert scarab]

lol they definitely touched it. I know it’s not the biggest nerf in the world but it’s a start. Might wanna check those patch notes again friend

[dapper cliff]

why did the devs patch supergliding what was the reson for it do you not whant fast paced movement in the game or dont want casuals having to learn complicated movement tech just to keep up with the avarge player?

[sick marten]

to anyone who is facing the game not launching bug, it may be due to your account, I booted up the game on my alt steam account and it worked as normal, but after switching back to my real account it goes back to not launching. I suspect my main might have been banned for some reason (possibly my username or I was so good at spamming sword I got flagged for cheating) but I don't know for certain because I'm not getting a message or error code saying I am banned nor an email stating such

[quick coyote]

They touched it because invis got the same change. This just looks how they'd do any activation skill now. It's by no means at all changing how busted it is lmao.

[royal flume]

I see what you mean but the point is more so that the 22k is worth more than 2 of the first cash out. So a team with no cash can swoop in at the last second and qualify. It really does render a lot of the match pretty pointless. I think raising the amounts would actually promote more team wiping since you would have closer but also higher scores in general so wipes would be required to lower a teams’ score enough for stealing the 22k to even give enough cash to qualify. The vaults being closer in value shouldn’t cause any tied scores since you gain and lose cash in a variety of different ways.

[coral hawk]

Genuinely this patch shows how little the devs care about the long term health of game. Recon sense not getting completed changed or nerfed into the ground just killed your game. Ain’t nobody streaming this game anymore

[sage bison]

turret is nothing compared to recon xD, what u talking about @mortal creek maybe in ur piss low elo

the meta is MMM w/ either recon or heals, no turret

[daring fossil]

it got the tiniest, laziest "nerf" ever, they didn't even try to adjust it, they just made it so it could be activated marginally less.

[twilit lily]

There is like 100 counters to a turret...There isn't exactly a counter to recon senses. You having trouble with a turret is a skill issue.
@covert scarab Those changes were actually an overall buff. So you might want to check them again or at least learn how it operates. The only thing those changes did was stop you from spamming it on/off as fast BUT you got a buff in exchange for that.
@dapper cliff Because it's unintended movement and this game is made for casuals/non-competitive players. Devs have stated that tons of times. So anything that requires abusing tech is going to get patched.
@faint vector Check your sens in settings. They apparently changed everyones sens. The aim assist is still the same as from previous patch where they nerfed it.

[ionic totem]

The game is good but has lots of bugs. When you have custon keybinds u cant use ur self raise tokens. It makes the game so unplayable. U have to fix this so many people have this issue. I have this issue on my ps5 and it makes the game so unplayable especually solo mode. Please fix this.

[tranquil lake]

when did they say its made for casual/non-competitive players?

[digital thorn]

Please Fix the ads innacuracy 😭

[mortal creek]

back when it was fun to play as anything other than M
now its just 3 M teams all tournament, 3 revives, 2 med guns and 1 turret

[fringe burrow]

Can we get an experimental game mode that functions like QC/tourney but instead of making the last 10s of a cashout matter the vaults take a bit longer to unlock and then the cashouts give cash continuously over time instead of being ine lump sum at the end? To make whoever holds them for the longest time will get the win. Want to see how the gameplay changes with that mode.

[wind frost]

please adjust the bloom or whatever this effect is called. the visual clarity is already terrible.

[weary wolf]

Hey guys, since the update today, I can't start the game because steam seems to detect a cheat software!? I didn't install any cheat software. I even close a lot of programs running in the background, but it didn't fix the issue. Can anybody help me? :)

[quick coyote]

DEV WHATS YOUR TIER
I JUST WANNA KNOW🙂

[cloud jungle]

Rework or remove Recon, number tweaks aren't enough. Mapwide sonar pulse with like 2-3 charges or something

[flat vale]

Agreed. And players should be able to see that pulse somehow cause the amount of times someone just instantly turns the corner and then shoots me is insane and I’m sitting there like how tf and then remember

[placid harness]

Please make the skeleton gloves and watches usable at the same time 😦

[midnight sierra]

i knew they were gonna just start using the red canisters instead of the orange ones the moment i hopped in practice range and saw how far they still went 😭

[golden wave]

In the shop you should be able to take cosmetics into the practice area to test out animations and play around with them to see if you want to buy it

[hollow shoal]

sounds like something a cheater would say 👀

[ionic charm]

A riot sheild buff would help balance its flaws. I really enjoy the riot sheild as a meme, but seeing it not be bad would be fun.

[sharp citrus]

Doesn't even need to be map wide too much info too op to not use. Needs to be a diameter around you like 75 meters. Simple easy fix I don't know who ever thought walls in a shooter was a good idea lol crazy absolutely crazy

[olive atlas]

I love how I'm in silver 2 and getting matched against diamonds, every game

[void scarab]

i think you're mistaken in that, i think that everyone is just going to play medium in ranked and if you don't, you're basically throwing/trolling

[eager raven]

Hi please fix the baseball bat lunge :) it was a big swing in the beta but now its just the normal sword lunge and it looks so goofy

#👂┇game-feedback message
@lapis jewel I'm saying it used to be working properly, they want the lunge to be a swing... they just forgot

[lapis jewel]

Its a skin for the sword, it should do sword lunge

[rotund orchid]

Some feedback that I have in regards to the skins in the store is that a lot of the weapon skins from the bundles are too scratched / too much 'wear' on them which instantly puts me off from buying them despite them looking pretty cool. I know that there might be an audience for more battle-scarred skins which could be argued to be more realistic. Speaking for myself I would much rather prefer the skin to be clean and look "new".

[blissful furnace]

Found a turret user. Turrets have way too much health and its a problem. You just dont want your little turret to get nerf. And you're probably one of those people who drops a turret in a 1v1 gunfight.

[daring fossil]

I had to bind respawn to enter, why it doesn't let you have respawn as spacebar if you change it is beyond me, it doesn't conflict with anything since you're dead. I have to hit enter with my mouse hand which I often end up not being able to hit it in time to spawn before a team wipe.

@cloud jungle it should not be map wide, like 30 meters max. I would just prefer they removed it altogether, such a bullshit specialisation

[tired belfry]

Nah give the patch time. Now that light doesn't die to one of 6 different one shot kills you'll start seeing them more. Once there are more lights that's more glitch and tazers to stop defibs heals. If they revert the glitch changes so that it is more reliable and easier to hit or make it explode on impact you'll probably see every body type in the game pretty evenly. Heavy still offers the most defensive measures in the game. Medium offers the best support. Light will be able to kill Medium's support. We're one more good patch away from a really well balanced environment.

[smoky gust]

There are 9 specializations, we have 6 slots
I couldn't do that even if I wanted to

Even if we did, I like to use different guns

If I had 1 slot for every special, what happens if I want to use heal beam with the CL-40 or the AKM?
Now I have to either waste a reserve slot for it or have to use another contestant slot
In which case a different contestant cant have a slot for one of their specials

[hollow dune]

men this some bullshit 😔

[versed remnant]

You cam put in more than one weapon in reserve

[sudden marlin]

no its completely gone

[sonic spoke]

Robots are friends

[wise estuary]

REMOVE DUMB FORTNITE RECOIL BLOOM. AND REVERT IT TO NORMAL

[inland lagoon]

normla 🤡

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for more visual feedback when both of your teammates are dead, and you dying will result in a team wipe. Having to look in the bottom left and see if they have skulls or healthbars takes too much time in the heat of the moment, and doesn't show the urgency of staying alive in that moment

[lament talon]

Quick melee aimbot feels bad

[marble gust]

Someone have launch problem with the game after the update ? seem like anti cheat don't want the game to be launch 😦

[royal flume]

The game could really use some form of weapon customization. With only 4 maps and very few viable weapons at the moment, most matches start to feel very similar to each other.

[paper jackal]

I take my dog outside to play in the snow I come back to my phone burning in flames

[wind frost]

we dont wanna play with you either 👍

[wraith imp]

Do i have to explain it like this?: Oh, buckle your wacky seatbelts and hold onto your zany hats, because let me spill the beans on the final game's recon ability—it's downright bonkers! Picture this: your opponent tries to sneak around like a stealthy pineapple, but bam! The recon ability exposes them like a disco ball at a quiet library. It's so goofily broken, it's like having a super-spy chipmunk on your team. Enemies might as well wear neon tutus because hiding is a total goof-fest. It's so loony, they should rename it the "Snickerdoodle Surveillance." Get ready for laughs, chaos, and a side of silliness, because this recon ability is a certified giggle generator!

[fluid raptor]

yeah, it's more of a solution for the time being. i think it's stupid too but the only option we have rn is profiles

[ruby lintel]

actual facts bro, this is teed explanation

[wanton quarry]

Fix AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5 tysm

[weary wolf]

Haha I know, but the internet can't help me, because nobody seems to have this problem. Actually I didn't know till now that people are actually trying to cheat. Why should you do something like this!? Anyways do you maybe know a solution?^^

[sour bane]

This game isn't going to last a year if they don't address recon senses

[plush plaza]

Give recon sight to light class and remove it from medium, it would instantly make light an actual useful class in competitive mode. Also fits light role way better since theyre supposed to scout for the team.

[chilly shale]

I just had a chance to review the release notes of the latest patch; I was expecting a patch to fix voice chat, but it doesn't look like there is any. Voice chat has not worked for me since a week or 2 after launch. I see tm8's voice icon animating, but I never hear anyone. Does no one else experience this issue??

[undone kestrel]

We came this far with recon sense now we complaining personally I run light and I never said OMG recon sense is OP 😆

[rare plinth]

Why did they remove the feedback from Critical Hit (Yellow Mark) from the dagger? The biggest problem with this game is that the direction the enemy is looking is never the right one. Sometimes you have 100% success of a backstab because you see the enemy with your back turned, but they're actually looking in a totally different direction. How many times on my screen in a 1x1 the weapon on the opponent was more than 90 degrees of error, shooting at nothing, this takes the dagger to a terrible level of efficiency, it is already an extremely difficult weapon.
And the only sign of a backstab was the critical hit mark, and it was removed... Now you have to guess whether you got it right or not

[hard wasp]

ofc the fcar was not nerfed, a skin for it was just released. Medium had to be nerfed not light or heavy. Only c4 was warranted

[stiff sky]

I'm just gonna get right to the point, the game isn't fun on a console with a controller. I much prefer the keyboard and mouse setup and, up until today, I was able to enjoy it. I understand it was a bug, but sometimes bugs are features. I feel that it should be added back, with maybe some keybind changes as wey

[bleak karma]

I’ve just seen the new patch notes and I’m a bit confused about the mouse and keyboard patch for consoles, have they removed MnK for consoles completely or fixed the bug that stopped the mouse from working on PlayStation consoles?

[gleaming frost]

https://streamable.com/msdbhy?src=player-page-share

AA still bugged. Weapons dont even work. All melee lobbies are fun

[true owl]

Surely the recoil issue was an accident there is no way they meant to fuck it up that much

[south sage]

anyone know how to fixx problem TFLA0002??

[oblique oyster]

Hello guys, i just encountered a annoying situation that removed all fight flow from the game:

Seoul, tournament final and the opposing team had 1 vault already. Then the next vault spawned on the Hospital thats only reachable via the 2 bridges, the small one they destroyed. Then for 15 Minutes (the remainder of the game) they just camped that vaultspawn and everytime we tried to attempt crossing the only single available pathway they shot us from afar.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3141677516

=> In a final, if a vault is not activated for 5~10 minutes, maybe it would make sense to respawn it somewhere else to avoid this total campy behavior that basically drags out till the end of the round.

[coral flicker]

Wow this game sucks ass now. Desync is worse than before

[night cypress]

Has anyone else had performance issues after the update? My game used to run just fine before

[dapper cliff]

they should just remove invis and thermal with light and switch out invis with a speed boost like octane stim but different then switch thermal for like a sniper like the tracking dart but it will glitch the players ability's and has a fast pullout time and then maybe add a ability to light like shadow bomb but instead of turning your team invis it heals them 50 hp or something so light can have at least like one team based ability. this would balance the game more because invis is so op.

[sharp citrus]

Removed

[cloud jungle]

Recon needs a rework

[crisp oxide]

EMBARK ARE CLEARLY MEDIUM MAINS. THANKS FOR NERFING HEAVY INTO GROUND GGS

[sacred terrace]

2x teams many times a ranked play. wtf.. and still got max -80. this comes after patch. not playable.

[wanton root]

Something more to work for - completed the battle pass a while ago and although I'm working on ranking up all the gadgets/weapons, there's not much else to work for progression wise, the xp required for each level is a grind on its own.

But I dont know, I think I've just come bored of camo progression in my years playing games

[obsidian frost]

you were close, the projectile wont reach as far now.

[tepid trench]

Day 2 Of asking for kill cams

[sudden tangle]

I was about to hit rank 6 and diamond 4 using light with DB and now that gun is completely gutted. I understand the other L nerfs (i don't understand the lack of M nerfs), why the hell does L have so many nerfs...

[wheat bay]

The new gamemode is a ton of fun. The only negative thing that I have to say about it is the respawn. The time that it takes to respawn is fine but I think that there should be an auto respawn option. I keep finding myself taking 5 extra seconds because I forget to click spacebar.

[lavish oracle]

Random bloom on recoil is garbage and will kill game.

[gusty mountain]

I appreciate the minute UI changes in the latest update.

[brazen lotus]

anyone knows a fix for 2 skins being shown as "equipped" making me unable to equip the skin again

[sonic spoke]

Delete Character remake

[hollow dune]

The damage tho all 3 of use had die

[compact stream]

So the recoil patterns have been messed up and are no longer predictable. Still no kill cams. Xbox servers are on fire and struggling heavily. Console blatant cheaters already, Xbox and PlayStation users both complaining of thousands of "soft wallers" played a game three nights ago (haven't been able to play for two full days because of Xbox servers.) Had a Xbox player drop 42 -2-0 with the Mac-11. Straight up tracking people through walls and trying to shoot people through walls. Anti cheat is heavily needed.

[civic olive]

i had issues with my game crashing in ranked, and then it dropped my rank by like 500pts, i feel like that was an unecessary punishment

[rain root]

I'm assuming they already had weapon bloom in the game just not as noticable but they seem to be laying it on harder with lewis gun now which i dont like but weapon bloom is def not foreign to battlefield developers and the like oh boy we already got the visual recoil now we gotta deal with rng bullets yall oh boy oh boy.. maybe they just assume people are using crosshair overlays so they gotta put the bloom in idk.. i say just remove da bloom and use damage fall off range to balance that type of stuff idk

[fair barn]

Recoil patterns changed after the new patch and its causing your bullets to have rng atm

[sage bison]

why do bushes block revive? if ur gonna hve this broken ass ability in the game at least make it work correctly

[grand dawn]

just wondering how are lights meant to kill heavies with DB now?

[undone belfry]

Aim assist also still broken 🫠

[slim karma]

How did heavy get nerfed into the ground? He's still very strong it's just he can't insta-kill ppl as effectively with nukes. Unless you're refering to the ADS bloom that affects every class except medium

[wide aspen]

SH1900 was over nerfed...two 100% accurate shots + melee not being able to kill a heavy. There is no point in running the weapon anymore. All the risk of being up close and none of the reward.

[hard wasp]

Recon senses not being nerf is the bigest dissapointment I have in this game since launch. I bought every skin and battlepass but I will not fun this game anymore because this ability is just utter bullcrap. I expected it to be nerfed since it is literally dominating the game. I have PTSD from that stupid sound it makes, always getting chased and being unable to play because of it. Disgusting.

[quick coyote]

hey guys im new to the game but i cant get in it appears TFLA0002 error on my screen what can i do?

[echo sand]

Hi devs, just wanted to say good job with the latest patch. Lots of great changes and I’m really happy with how this game is being handled. Keep up the good work!

[midnight sierra]

yea i agree, the removal of mnk on console was a weird choice especially when i can just hook my ps5 controller to my pc lol. i had to do a double take reading it on the steam page

[stiff sky]

Yeah, it caught me off guard too. I physically can't use a controller so this kinda bums me out

[dapper cliff]

They should just remove invis and thermal with light and switch out invis with a speed boost like octane stim, but differently, then switch thermal for like a sniper like the tracking dart, but it will glitch the player's abilities and have a fast pullout time, and then maybe add an ability to light like shadow bomb, but instead of turning your team invis, it heals them 50 HP or something, so light can have at least one team-based ability. This would balance the game more because Invis is so OP.

[tired belfry]

I agree with this guy if you needed 2/3rd's of your gadgets to one shot kill light and 1/3rd of your gadgets to be able to one shot kill every other body type maybe you just aren't quite as skilled at the game as you thought you were. No other body type could one shot heavy with ANYTHING. Heavy could one shot every body type with one gadget and one shot light with two of their gadgets. Heavy STILL has the most effective HP in their gadgets and specializations and STILL has the highest damage capability in their gadgets and specializations. People were crutching one shot kills too hard no other body type had it as easy as heavy did to drop double digit kill games. Plus the double barrel doesn't one mag them anymore which is a HUGE buff for their cqc survivability.

People need to let this patch breathe and just play with the changes. Recon and Defib will probably be up next on the chopping block, we lived with one shot kills for a month you can at least try not having them for a day.

[young leaf]

They need to add a damage drop off to the scar had a medium 3 buildings away kill me

[livid badge]

the mouse and keyboard don't work, but they worked before... Xbox series x

[ruby lintel]

xbox not intended for mnk

[opaque valve]

I don’t think PlayStation ever had accessibility for mnk either

[vagrant slate]

everytime we try to join a eachothers party on pc it just says failed to join party

[sacred yew]

Thoughts on having a full mag after a revive? ive had some situations were a teamate was able to pull off a skill res with the defibs and after dying in a fight m magazine only had a few bullets and I was immediately downed again, just kind of feels like you get cheated out of your second chance

[hollow dune]

@uncut tartan

[quick coyote]

@quick coyote Did you add bloom to recoil but didn't mention it in the patch notes? Every gun the spray patterns have random deviation around where the bullet should have gone so they are never consistent, ever.

[sour bane]

Embark just delete Light from Ranked please. So sick of these skill-less team-utility-less wastes of space on my team. You guys want a Recon Defib meta anyways, just make it a MMM role queue.

[valid night]

why there is bullet spread in the game plz fix

[main shoal]

Where can I report a bug I found in 20 seconds? Broken sniper viewmodel

[sinful gazelle]

Sounds like you need some teammates. Just like how you get the undesired out come from any character based games whne solo queue. You are expected to have interesting teammates.

[lament nova]

Thoughts on the Riot shield change:

Fixed an issue where the Riot Shield could block bullets while the player climbed a ladder
I say embrace the realism. The riot shield should block damage from behind. Let the mediums go full turtle mode on ladders

[exotic wave]

I think charge & slam may need it turn radius increased. Side stepping a heavy just for them to turn nearly on a dime to hit it anyway feelsbadman.jpg

[slim karma]

The patch was still a huge disappointment, mainly because recon senses was hardly touched and even buffed in an area. The other changes to stuff we wanted to see buffs on were so small and insignificant that it did nothing. Not to mention they hyped this patch with a trailer, we expected embark to deliver and truly tackle the pain points, and they failed colossally.

[austere lily]

why is there bloom now?

[gaunt thunder]

The crossplay issues should be fixed I have it off and still get pc lobby’s it’s a huge disadvantage for console players in ranked

[rotund orchid]

My thoughts on the Defibrillators:
The Defibrillators feel pretty strong, too strong in some scenarios. Using a defibrillator mid-fight should come at a high risk but I feel that this risk is not as high or punishable as it should be. You would think that the optimum way to counter this is to instantly shoot the revived player for a quick kill but this is not often the case. How the scenario would often go is that you would shoot one player that gets downed and then a teammate of theirs goes for the revive mid-fight so you will have to choose to either try and kill the new player or wait for the downed player to get revived. I think the problem is when you decide to shoot the revived enemy player and there, due to the i-frames that one gets from being revived by the defibrillator, you end up wasting a lot of bullets and having to reload your weapon and then you might end up dying. You could argue that this is a skill issue which I would agree to on some levels but I still think this style of gameplay where someone can go for an instant-revive mid-fight should come with a higher risk to it. My suggestion for this specific problem would be to reduce the time that the revived player has i-frames and during the i-frames, bullets that would otherwise hit the player would go through them and potentially hit the enemy behind them.

[graceful tapir]

So the db, like one of the only things keeping lights relevant is now nerfed to the ground but recon senses is nearly untouched? We truly live in a society.

[elfin swallow]

The new recoil is fine just please update the recoil patterns to work better with it

[pine bane]

How tf did you guys leave recon as it is lmfao

[nimble delta]

anyone else not able to use voice chat rn?

[tacit prawn]

Seems cross-play is stuck on?

[latent bobcat]

This fkn game is make for light players, with latest patch a full light team melt the entire lobby

[restive fern]

lights just got super nerfed? LOL

[noble latch]

I'm having fun with a sword

[fathom jay]

add different crosshairs for weapons

[solid ridge]

#👂┇game-feedback I’ve been loving the finals but something that could be beneficial is to add some weapon customisability, nothing pay or play to win but where you could swap a scope for a smaller mag or less recoil for no scope

[quick coyote]

Did desfib invuln got nerfed?

[livid badge]

since the mouse is turned off at the crossplay, it's time to remove the game

[tired belfry]

It wasn't buffed in any area and anyone with basic math can tell you that. If it can be activated at 2s and it costs 2s to activate how much recon sense do you get? 2 - 2 = 0. You don't even get half a second of recon if you activate it at it's new activation limit. If anything it's a FURTHER nerf because if you spam the button to activate it now you don't get ANY use. Just because a patch didn't address one or two things that needed changes doesn't mean the other changes weren't necessary. Literally every single one of my pain points aside from defib and recon were addressed in SOME capacity. That is better than every other FPS game out there right now that just nerfs something to unusable while buffing something to must pick and they just run that cycle until the game dies, you play flavor of the month that way.

Just because recon wasn't nerfed enough doesn't mean the patch was a let down or bad, every other change was solid and helped address issues that had long been complained about. Next patch I bet it will be changed because people are right it is just a bit too strong, but man everyone acts like this patch is the end of the world when everything in it was great for the health of the game. Aside from maybe the bloom issue which wasn't communicated so I doubt it was meant as a feature.

[dapper cliff]

My feedback is that them saying external crosshairs are banable is bull because if they are going to say that makes the in-game crosshairs usable, there are also broken ads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5NnatfZifo. Here is a video that shows how all the crosshairs in the game are broken. This may be why a lot of people are missing shots. This has been in the game since launch, and it needs an immediate fix. and external crosshair overlays are not unfair anyone can draw a dot on their screen with tape and can have one

[wheat snow]

this, it's a huge hit to its general use. without touching other aspects, it was really unecessary. I hope at least they'll roll back the change to 11 per pellet at some point since that would give the full combo heavy-killing potential again

[foggy orbit]

I see why you call yourself a dumb jester

[mental cipher]

what happened with aim assit after this patch there is none

[waxen granite]

Please remove recon please remove recon please remove recon please remove recon

[noble gull]

Q: why does this game feel choppy when I have mid to high end computer parts

[quick coyote]

They buffed recon in the patch lnao

[tepid trench]

(Restarting) day 1 of asking that 3000 diamonds can be converted into 5 multi bucks

[royal mica]

Nukes still overpowered, need to find a way to remove them completely. I.e make throwables unatachable

[vagrant slate]

DOes anyone know how to fix the "FAILED TO JOIN PARTY" issue? Ive never had problems before but today i cant join any of my friends parties but they can join eachother. i restarted, even restarted pc, and updated windows, same problem.

[ionic plover]

It wasnt just that recon wasnt nerfed properly its that nothing else on medium got nerfed at all whereas the other two classes had some pretty big nerfs even though medium was and still is the best class

[quick coyote]

A: optimization issues (also might be due to your setup, this game does not like Intel users)

@tough kraken rollback your nivdia driver, some updates break the Finals

[tough kraken]

my game was working yesterday but after upgrading it and my nvidia driver it wont now, great

only fix I currently have is to bypass to use DirectX11 instead of latest and it still crash if I go to ingame settings ??

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[sharp vigil]

instead of adding new modes and fixing character outfits, focus on not making the game crash every 5 minutes

[karmic cloud]

why does the breach charge weigh as much as 2 c4? literally cant even throw things a couple meters away with 1 charge on it

[rain root]

Adding bloom to the game will mean people wont get beamed by multiple people as effectively at range, but at the same time makes the game feel less intuitive gunplay wise.. perhaps this is to curb people from using crosshair overlays to basically cheat (yes its cheating lol dont even try to argue im finna pu with a dam essay on yo dummy butt) and also make the class dynamics more pronounced (medium is medium range with ars, lights with smgs shouldnt be as accurate same with heavy with lmgs and so on..) but i personally think its makes the game feel way worse.. they may wanna implement that suppression mechanic where if u shoot near an opponent it suppresses them and makes them less accurate or whatever.. i personally think they shouldn't.. not really sure why they would want to implement weapon bloom at this point in the game.. if they wanna make sure some weapons have weaker ranges maybe just go extra hard on their dmg falloff range.. since i've seen more than enough people saying that external/internal crosshair overlays aren't cheating ill have to put why i guess even though anyone with an ounce of competitive integrity would know this lmao.. its just a unique shooting mechanic that differentiates this game from other games lmao.. imagine using recoil scripts in csgo because "MY BULLETS DONT GO WHERE MY CROSSHAIR IS OH NOOO" LOLOLOL but whatever.. yall can do whatever you want because chances are you aint doing nothin with this game and if u ever do u gon get plowed because you been using a crutch.. if the devs of this game want to introduce weapon bloom and lean off of the visual recoil it wont matter, players will complain about any aiming mechanic that isnt basically call of duty.. if the devs want to introduce both bloom AND the visual recoil then the game is gonna start feeling a lot worse for good players, but casual players may not care or even notice..

[vernal rock]

ever going to fix the snipers or give us any updates on the sniper balances? dog devs

[slim karma]

Just becasue the bar is incredibly low for game developers to do their job at making it fun for everyone, doesn't mean we should praise embark for delivering a patch that barely passes the bar. It still doesn't address the pain points, observing how they are approaching buffs, nerfs and total reworks is what many of us have taken an issue with, and just because the pain points for you were addressed, many of the pain points for the majority of us weren't addressed and are ruining the causal and ranked scene. This patch indicates that embark have no idea how to address any of the problems, many of the feedback suggested into this channel has been completely ignored, and this patch confirms that.

[waxen monolith]

Why on earth did you get rid of mouse and kb support on xbox? That's the only reason I downloaded the game

[balmy briar]

Embark: Please bring back the old Mouse2 attack animation for baseball bat, its not doing the bat swing like in the beta, just does the forward slide like the sword.

[quick coyote]

You don't have to ping us with every suggestion or feedback you have . We look at the chat and write things down.

[blissful furnace]

Random recoil patterns is criminal and just adds RNG to gunfights

[bleak vector]

can anyone share how to play solo bank it on steam? I dont see the game option anywhere

[dapper cliff]

embark please unband external crosshairs because until you fix the broken in game crosshairs they should be allowed here is a video explaining the issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5NnatfZifo

[sudden spire]

Random Recoil sounds like a good idea to me

[foggy orbit]

when you write it down do you show embark at all? because a lot of feedback has been submitted here and based off the patch notes, there are so many balancing issues still?

[severe linden]

There’s a bug where PC players can get into console only lobbies

[quick coyote]

Yes. Takes time for some adjustments to be made

[blissful flame]

Feedback suggestion:
It would be nice if you could send a 👥 Steam invite to your Steam friends so that they get a notification in their chat, and can click "Join game" to join your lobby (this is built into steam but not supported by THE FINALS).

This would also make people more likely to play THE FINALS. Since currently you can only invite people who have THE FINALS open.

[flat spruce]

^^^

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:
-While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
-Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
-Add a slow down effect after being hit by the shield, nothing too crazy just a small reduction to movement speed and the effect should only last 500ms max (Same reason as above, medium lack ways to finish people off or catch up to them, this would prevent infinite chases, also this slow down would only work on medium and heavies, light can still run away)
-Increase damage from 84 to 90 (to kill heavies in 4 hits instead of 5)
-Add a charge like attack, to activate it press the attack button while blocking kinda like charge N slam, of course less powerful and without the destruction effect, it would add variety, also all the other melee weapons have two attacks)

[gilded urchin]

without fail every time i get into a fight theres a massive lag spike

[humble wave]

The patch was acceptable, but Embark could you enhance the effectiveness of throwing knives ? They seem quite weak. Also, consider adjusting thermal vision to display enemies in red instead of white, and explore ways to make light more useful. Thanks for your attention.

[wanton dove]

C4 still one shots.
RPG 140 dmg is too high.
People rarely play Light on ranked and you guys only nerfed light.
More balance please.

[tired belfry]

We obviously have different opinions on what changes need to be done if you think this patch was a "major disappointment". But I do want to clarify that recon was not buffed in any way. The 2s activation limit looks like a buff but if you spam recon off cooldown now it immediately goes on cooldown because it costs 2s to activate. You get no info if you spam it off cooldown and effectively wasted the 2 seconds you built up. If they had kept it at 2.5s you would've gotten the half second pulse of info. It wasn't a buff it was a further nerf to spamming the skill.

[fathom pivot]

TOOOO, and why crosplay exist so?

[dark creek]

Add squads

[sage bison]

The mods have to filter ur ramblings and remove comments from casual roller trash xD

[tough topaz]

Using a mouse and keyboard on the console has never been a problem for anyone! In fact, this makes the gameplay fair for all platforms! We gamers should unite so that games are fairer for everyone equally! We already have crossplay within the game, so why take away the support that makes the game more balanced? We don't want to have an advantage over computer players, we just want the same gameplay experience! Not everyone has the money to buy both a console and a computer, I'm poor and I want to have fun with what I have! Please bring the support back!

[granite lava]

Add servers for South Aftica. Or at least Africa

[wide aspen]

Add 1 damage back to the SH1900, or add 20 damage to stun gun.

[vagrant bison]

Removing MnK support on consoles was so stupid, crossplay exists so why would that even be an issue lol

[zealous walrus]

Youre guaranteed a different experience if you're on a console, the two systems aren't the same. If you want the same experience, get a PC.

Not saying I agree with removing the support. Just they are fundamentally different

[quick coyote]

Would love to see more choices in character creation. Not enough variance between characters. What would be ideal is a character mode that allows custom face designs, skin tones, etc.

[tall sparrow]

Fix Aim assist

[slim karma]

I've been using recon in all my games because it still remains to be the best ability in the game, it lasts way too long, too easy to manage, and there's a huge reason why it's in every team composition, I've never known an ability that takes so much fun out of the game, even when I use it, most of the kills you get with it are so undeserved, and the ability to hunt down someone relentlessly with ease with zero counterplay, is what makes it so infuriating to play against, you know exactly where to position yourself and pre-aim, it destroys any stealth or flanking playstyle. Overall it did get nerfed in the patch but it is hardly enough to conisder this pain point as somewhat addressed, and that is just one of the pain points...

[finite ridge]

Let players go to the practice area in a group

[cloud jungle]

Recon has to be reworked heavily

[waxen granite]

Remove recon or i will legit quit this game

[quick coyote]

translation: man we don't fucking care about your opinion, nor others'. We won't read anything and we will just release poorly crafted patches with placebo adjustments to give you the sop

[lost owl]

Feel like I should be able to equip some body paints together. Like ones that only effect the face and ones that effect the arms at the same time.

[restive dove]

they gotta patch this patch bro 💀

[sour bane]

Delete Light and Heavy class. It's clear Embark only cares about Medium.

[manic aspen]

chad post nerf c4 vs virgin aps

[patent tartan]

So does this confirm that spread rng has been added with this recent patch?

[tough kraken]

tried two older nvidia patches with no success :/

now uninstalling/installing the game, my last hope kinda

[frail prawn]

Recon should be a kind of mapwide sonar pulse with charges (maybe 2 or 3) instead of time based

[twin sage]

pResource->Map(Subresource, pReadRange, reinterpret_cast<void**>(&pData)) failed 
 at Runtime\D3D12RHI\Private/D3D12RHIPrivate.h:1387 
 with error DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED with Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_HUNG

MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK

Seriously? A massive patch an entire month after the game releases and a constant crash bug isn't fixed? Am I doing something wrong myself? I've done everything that the pinned message said to do, yet nothing will stop my game from crashing. I really want to enjoy THE FINALS but it is really hard to enjoy a game when I crash at least 3 times PER GAME.

[daring fossil]

i played 1 round of solo bank-it and I can already tell it's going to just be a "camp the cashouts" mode. most of my coins were just from going to a cashout to deposit and killing a dude trying to deposit.

[fleet coral]

And if i dont use it i will be in very disadvantages situation. Not only teamplay, but also light with cloaking while i am focusing to a player.

It will be good if recon sense and cloaking device gone at the same time. Defib too if can.

[keen steppe]

Better communication with us would be much appreciated.

If you were to do a dev blog or something along those lines in which you explain your reasoning for the changes you implemented, what you are currently working on or keeping an eye out for and what you plan to address in the future would go a long way towards appeasing some of the fears we have about the future of this game and its balance.

Open and honest communication is one of the most important aspects of keeping players engaged with your product even if there are problems with for examples balance patches or bad/stale metas.

So far the only communication I see is "we are reading the feedback channel" and " " which is too little.

[tired belfry]

And I agree my guy Recon is ridiculously good and needs more changes. But because it wasn't addressed doesn't mean the patch as a whole was bad. What out of all these changes would you revert is what I'm saying. There is nothing in this list again aside from the bloom, which isn't listed so I don't know if that is a feature or not, that I would revert which to me that is a GOOD patch, Embark is going the right direction in my mind, there will always be more stuff to fix balance is never "fixed" but they are making the environment more healthy and I want them to know I want more patches like this one. So I think calling the patch a "major disappointment" is a bit disingenuous.

[graceful tapir]

This patch feels really biased towards mediums... How did basically the worst class that's barely hanging by a thread with the cloak and db get nerfed? And how come medium, the strongest class get out untouched? Funnily enough the recoil bloom some people have been complaining about barely affects the fcar, the best weapon in the game by far.

Still have high hopes they'll notice that people didn't like the patch and go about doing the right thing.

[flat spruce]

It would be great if the game would correctly identify in shadowplay (and other apps like GHub) and stop recording all my clips to the "Desktop" folder

[eager barn]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepo-riot-riot-protest-peepo-angry-gif-21768097
Embark.. your losing player.. do ypu rly think your patch is good?.. jeez.. i can see ur not playing ur own game

[clever kernel]

Increase sniper damage from 115 to 125. it should be able to two-shot a medium

[fathom pivot]

MANS, REVERT M&K CHANGES

[humble wave]

New content = portal gun for light, you are welcome

[wind hemlock]

I'm only in Gold but since this update every single team is running x3 meds with at least 1 running recon. Fights last several minutes now with people just dancing around defibing and healing each other, it's beyond painful. Zero variety is so sad to see

[deft merlin]

RECON NEEDS TO BE REWORKED!

Gathered and brainstormed by a few people in the community, if Embark REALLY needs this Specialization in the Game it should be reworked into an Active Gadget rather than the current Togglable Specialization that just gives you straight up ESP.

Give it to Light by replacing the Thermal Vision, cause as that gadget stands its currently overshadowed by the rest of Light's kit.

The gadget would be a camera or a device of some kind with limited usages that recharge. Say 3 uses and they recharge. Instead of constantly seeing players position, it should be a ping of about 50-75m that marks the location they were pinged in. You can't shoot while having it out as well.

I think this would both simultaneously help to lessen the current Medium meta and give light a reconnaissance/intel gathering role since its already a roamer playstyle, Recon right now is a specialization that just promotes a very solo, deathmatch playstyle in a Team Base Objective oriented game that actively is killing the games sense of identity in creative freedom and player expression

[tall sparrow]

Make it so you cant put c4 on barrels
Over these fuking nukes
And Fix Aim Assist the nerf was too much , you only needed to nerf snap aim
Not aim assist

[rare lotus]

yup

[worldly fable]

Jesus Christ Embark people won't play the same 2 fucking gamemodes over and over for long ADD NEW ONES

[noble nimbus]

please for the love of God fix aim assist if you want console players to stick around... yes it was a little strong on launch but now it's non existent or just really inconsistent.

[blissful flame]

It seems like the 💥 Explosive Mine barely gives item mastery XP when you're playing with it. You can kill 6+ people with mines and only get 200 XP, much less than other gadgets.

If I can make an assumption, I think there might be a bug where the mine does not give experience when it's triggered by certain sources like other explosions or another player's stray bullet. If not, the damage-to-XP conversion is not generous enough.

[woven storm]

Guys i really enjoy the game, but its ABSOLUTELY unplayable. I disconnect every round few times

[crisp oxide]

Thanks for ruining a great game Embark GGs Finals you will be missed 😭

[quick coyote]

Console here. Tomorrow I finally end the Battlepass. I guess ill return to play when aim assist gets fixed and a new and good new mode gets added ( solo quick cash is a joke of a mode)

[hybrid harness]

Uh idk if anyone else has this bug but after a round of ranked I got a matchmaking suspension even tho didn’t leave

[waxen vault]

An idea for communication, it would be really helpfull if you have a chat you can send messages in instead of quick chat only. have had alot of times where teammates turn of voice chat and there is no way to reach them about any information so having atleast 1 option to contact them would be helpfull. Also a chat in the lobby for if you want to get information about discord or any other service without turning voice chat on

[high wing]

nice nerf on nuke. NOT

[uncut pier]

don't get too close to heavy that is the only rule. At least you cant get nuked from 20 or 30 meters away

[blissful furnace]

Not gonna lie, this is a bad patch

[gilded sierra]

i dont know if ill keep playing after they nerfed the heavy into oblivion. they've nerfed the rpg TWICE now, no more nukes, less mesh sheild health, AND a shotgun debuff. They might as well have just removed heavy as a playable class because that's WAY too many debuffs/nerfs for a single class on one patch.

[sour bane]

Uninstalled today. Dead game in 6 months. Good job Embark! You had something so good going on but your bias for one class is showing a little too much

[dapper cliff]

they added a solo mode that everyone has been asking for and now everyone hates it lol

[sand sable]

The game is basically unplayable on console rn

@cr0w.. good for you

[keen steppe]

Better communication with us would be much appreciated.

If you were to do a dev blog or something along those lines in which you explain your reasoning for the changes you implemented, what you are currently working on or keeping an eye out for and what you plan to address in the future would go a long way towards appeasing some of the fears we have about the future of this game and its balance.

Open and honest communication is one of the most important aspects of keeping players engaged with your product even if there are problems with for examples balance patches or bad/stale metas.

So far the only communication I see is "we are reading the feedback channel" and " " which is too little.

[bleak vector]

I don’t understand why the FCAR didn’t get nerfed. It’s more broken then any other gun

[fluid raptor]

it's clearly a fuckup. calm down and wait for them to fix it. yes, there is no communication and that sucks but crying "dead game, uninstall, unplayable" wont help and is far from being constructive feedback. CHECK GAME UPDATES, IT'S NOT INTENTIONAL AND THEY ARE WORKING ON A FIX (:

[wide aspen]

Give melee attack a buff to 50 damage

[lament lagoon]

im playing it on console rn what

[waxen granite]

Please remove recon if you want your game to live longer. And then write all of us a hand written apology for making such a horrible specialization. Literal wall hacks shouldn’t be in the game thanks. I will quit if its continues to be a thing

[quick coyote]

So console here (ps5)
Forse off all me and my friends have crossplay all turned off but after the updates we are forced to play pc players anyway? And this is then added to the aim assist being (almost) completely gone? Wtf is going on here? I mean mbk with no aim assist is fine by me (I wish I could afford a gaming pc) but Jesus this game has just became unplayable for me, and probably thousands of console players with me. Please bring back the aim assist (like at a battlefield kinda level)

[fleet coral]

The game has variety of weapons, gadgets ends up 2-3 builds on 12ppl in ranked mode is not balanced enough. Please tell me this is not the only balance changes in upcoming months.

Every ranked match i can see only MMH, HHM and the "M" must have recon sense.

If this is only balance change you can do, this is not stepping forward.

[silver flower]

pls add keyboard and mouse again in consoles

[calm vector]

Why can I not cap my fps when using NVIDIA DLSS Frame Generation? It's greyed out and makes frames uncapped

[astral abyss]

I would be careful asking for nerfs. You might get more than you asked for. We should instead ask for buffs for the guns that are lagging behind.

[split hatch]

hey kinda off topic but something I'd love to see changed is the thermal vision gadget on light. making it a meter like recon senses or invis would be great, i keep accidentally double tapping the button and wasting the full charge D:

[proud ocean]

Don’t know if it’s aim assist or something they changed in sensitivity but yes default aim settings are completely different from patch 1.4.1. They messed around with settings and made the aiming quite terrible at the moment.

[sour hollow]

Probably been said a million times, but is anyone’s aim (assist) really off on console? I don’t mean the ADS sens that changed with the update - I reset that back to previous value - but aiming really doesn’t feel the same as it did pre-patch.

[untold haven]

the cl40 needs to do SO much more self damage it is ridiculous that you can just shoot at your feet and win

[sturdy galleon]

MAKE THE WATCHES VISIBLE WITH ALL THE UPPER BODY CLOTHES PLS

[long river]

my best suggestion is to delete the game🥸

[mint jewel]

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FOREVER, THIS GAME PLAYABLE
I LOVE THIS PATCH

[opaque mural]

What's with the random bullet deviation added to every automatic weapon in the game on today's patch? It wasn't listed in the patch notes at all.

[restive dove]

make recon like bloodhound scan in apex

[tough kraken]

i beg to differ since i literally can not launch the game since last patch lmao

[lapis ravine]

The front pocket satchel floats slightly off of the character with the light and heavy class but not medium.

[tacit topaz]

agree with the new random spread thing. The patch is on the right track and I understand that you may want to fight recoil scripters, but I think that anyone with experience in competitive shooters would agree that this new random spread is very disappointing, even a deal breaker. No matter how I train my recoil patterns and my aiming skills, every time I shoot is like I'm flipping a coin. The gunplay is overall MUCH worse than in previous builds.

I hope you guys find a different method to fight them, but rng spread/increased bloom is not the right way IMO. I don't think I can play a competitive game with this rng gunplay

P.S. Please, fix the crosshairs too. Static, etc. and more accurate crosshairs are essential

[spice crane]

Add keyboard and mouse back to console, you just ended a large group of players. I can't play anymore and I was just starting to get really good

[undone belfry]

Wtf man so many k&m players on console.. glad that embark patched it... there's only the xim rats left

[blissful flame]

It's possible they couldn't confirm whether a console user was using mouse/keyboard, or some other issue that meant they couldn't determine whether aim assist should be turned off.. I'm sure they didn't just remove the support for no reason, but it would be nice if it was possible without aim assist.

[quick coyote]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN CROSSPLAY IS FORCED? It cant be real... no?

[bleak vector]

I had to uninstall and re-install the game on steam to get the update...

the random recoil pattern is dumb

heavy was nerfed into oblivion

FCAR is still a literal laser beam

wall hacks (recon senses) needs deleted yesterday

[quick coyote]

All those console players crying cause they took the training wheels off 😭

Lmao, Aim assist is on the same level as Apex, you just got used to the snap feature that got neutered and shouldn't even be a thing in a game like this.

Hint hint, is not TDM you don't win by killing people

[rustic fossil]

gadget idea for the heavy
roller skates that last as long as the vanish bomb
this would give the heavy a mobility option when using something other than charge and slam

if people think this would be broken you could remove the heavy's ability to attack during this mechanic

[devout geode]

Don’t tell me…. You’re a pc player? 👀

[eager raven]

Resume is in the bottom right corner in case you wanna hire me

[pliant temple]

Increase the player level from 40 please love the little grind of cosmetics for playing

[severe mason]

🤣

[pine needle]

I... legit can't feel a single piece of difference.

Plus, in short imho, I think this actually makes the game more accessable for casuals and nerfs sweats.

That I can only honour a choice like this, with the oversaturation of competitiveness nowdays. If you want serious competition, focus on those games.

[exotic wave]

Ping would be a nice metric to see in game, and especially before game.

[stiff sky]

That might be a bit much, but I agree they should bring it back

[waxen granite]

I actually would rather be a victim of identity theft and have the shit beaten out of me than play in a lobby fill of recon users. Please remove wall hacks from the game

[rough finch]

Give us rbmm until something that actually works is found, ranked is actually unplayable rn

[snow tartan]

anyone else annoyed by the fact that the stun gun has to be reloaded even after the cooldown?? im a casual player so it may be better for ranked but it's frustrating

[silver flower]

put the keyboard and mouse support back, it makes no sense for the game to be crossplay and remove the keyboard and mouse from the consoles

[summer venture]

Remove recon, legit it doesn't belong here. It's insane how little you've heard from the launch feedback, honestly it's discouraging to see feedback being ignored.

Congrats, now MMM and MMH will be even more meta dominant. Remove light if your intention is to make it unplayable (esp in comp) anyway, really disappointing

[coral ferry]

^remove recon its no fun at all ^

[jagged ocean]

Pls fix the "off" for crossplay, it doesnt rly work as off as i still get matched with pc anyways.

[edgy pulsar]

this game has literally turned into the meduim and Fcar simulator used to be various builds and more fun now its just one gun one class

[sour bane]

Not sure why all of you are bitching. Just play Medium and use Recon, Defib, and FCAR as Embark intend. Stop complaining and pick up the wall hacks.

They don't care what you have to say.

Medium is the only class you should play and you will be HAPPY about it

[proud ocean]

Reverting settings back to 60% on console still doesn’t feel like before the patch!Have you test it?? I found the closest value to previous default settings is 40%. Oh and crossplay is on by default. That’s crazy! Please bring AA and gunplay in general back to 1.4.1! 🙏

[brave quarry]

Next step for the next patch : completely delete the light

[fleet coral]

Seems like u're right. And when we get bored because of repetition then most of us leave XD

[lapis acorn]

JUST CHANGE IT BACK TO 60 IN SETTINGS

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for a jetpack (likely won't happen because it would need to be an addition to the player's character model, and that won't play well with skins)

[thorn elbow]

Embark loooooves wallhack and hates explosions it seems, bring me back to cb when the game was fun

[rustic maple]

do something about matchmaking because there is no way i get people that played 60 rounds to get ranked and STILL dont know this is a team game

[wanton quarry]

Embark - any update on the Fix AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5 tysm

[wicked crest]

PC players are in Playstation only games since the patch.

[vocal shadow]

sweet. so you mean its gonna be like taking candy from a baby?

[tropic sequoia]

Why are you nerfing the cloak? Light was the weakest class in competitive environment already … No one is playing light in ranked which shows that it rather needs a buff

[neon lark]

They need a duos mode

[wind hemlock]

Should be able to see other people's ranks in ranked. No idea if I'm improving by beating high rank players, or just killing off bronze players on their first ranked game

[graceful tapir]

Light is dead.
Heavy is oppressed.
Ranked is full of Mediums.

Waiting for the emergency patch for the previous patch.

[narrow salmon]

fix recon

[rose surge]

Please oh please make it so that cloak beats recon ability. Recon should not detect cloak. That's so OP and ruins the viability of lights.

[boreal tusk]

The only nerf needed to recon is longer cooldown AND inability to toggle making it a calculated choice to get info. As it is now you can toggle on/off for most of the game with no real penalty, making it use the whole charge to gather info and feed to the team balances it and makes it require some thought on when it would be best used.

[simple hazel]

Seeing a lot of anti-Recoil Configs today.

[sturdy blade]

The ability to turn off cross play seems to be broken.

[next raft]

Healing is still very op, i can't rememebr the last time my healing gun overheated. Defib should revive with 1 quarter health.

[rocky verge]

Cb1 is #1

[rustic fossil]

How about a good steering wheel that doesn’t fly off your hand while you’re driving.

[queen cloud]

If they make aimassist strong to point it makes casuals happy (they want the game to aim for them) I'll be too OP in good players hands. Like top controller players will demolish top MnK because of aimassist.

Casuals have to understand u need to get good with aim. Aimassist should never make up for your trash aim.

Apex has 40% rotational aimassist on pc and it's already OP. Top roller > top mnk aim wise. Most pros/good players, 90+% of preds are all on roller.

Aimassist is already strong as is. Opinion from actual good players on pc. Snap assist works with all auto guns and it's busted (should be removed).
Also console has insane input lag at 60fps+vsync compared to a good pc at like 240fps. Soo if they buff it even more to compensate for that good lord run from pc roller players.

[steady ether]

This update has demolished the game.

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for a bow

[proud ocean]

It’s not about making AA stronger. There’s something wrong with controller settings that makes harder to aim at default configuration. Aiming feels weird even when resetting sensitivity at 60% like they said still doesn’t feel like before the patch. AA, aiming and gunplay was fine on console after AA nerf with patch 1.4.1.

[sudden tangle]

HI HELLO ITS ME THE GUY THAT ONE TRICKS LIGHT, JUST WANT TO SAY, FK THIS UPDATE. YOU NERFED 3 THINGS I RAN, STUN GUN, INVIS, DB. MAYBE JUST REVERT THE DB I CAN GO BACK TO ACTUALLY PLAYING LIGHT AND NOT THROWING THE GAME.

[woeful prairie]

the season 1 cosmetic pack should automatically unlock when you spend your first 1150 credits, I forgot to buy the pack twice now despite the fact it's basically "free"

I feel like the revolver shouldn't have spread/bloom/sway (whatever you want to call it) and could do with a faster reload similar to FCAR, it's a skill-shot weapon that rewards high precision but even if you hit all your shots it's still significantly behind the FCAR when you include reloading in team fights.

[wanton quarry]

PS5 players went from 50% -> 35% -> 0%. Shits busted.

Embark - Fix the AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5 tysm

[waxen granite]

Console players realizing they now have to aim 😂😂

[native flax]

Surprised defibs didn't even get addressed in the last patch notes... |

Double/triple medium meta game is boring.

Medium already has if not the best gun and ability combo in the game (scar and recon). Defib turns medium into a no-brainer pick, no variation.

triple medium turns a 3v3 into a 3v6, sometimes even a 3v9 since the CD on defib is only 45 seconds.

Defib needs to be addressed and it's concerning that the team hasn't yet.

I'll give my ideas surrounding balance for defib:

• CD doubled so it can't be used within the same fight
• Invincibility period on revive removed (only for defib revives)
• Defib should be risk/reward

One last thing - Recon senses should not pick up invisible characters

With that last change I mentioned we would see more lights at higher levels of play because they don't get blatantly countered by triple M with recon.

Appreciate the time you take to read this.

EDIT:

Start thinking about the Esports scene and what it would be like for the viewers.

Imagine us watching the world tournament of The Finals and all we see is 8/10 teams running 3M and the occasional 2M 1H...

How damn BORING, rooftop lasers where everyone knows where everyone is at all times.

[fading yoke]

I'm not dying to nukes as much which is good, but FCAR is still fucking borked. There still is no reason to pretty much run anything else than MMH or just MMM because medium class is so overtuned and FCAR is a big part of it. You laser people as fast as light class does, from farther away, while having superior utility (mainly defib and recon senses) so there's just no point playing light if you take this game seriously.

[sudden marlin]

bro wtf are you talking about? after patch AA is fully gone, it literally NON existent, all complain about it. Remains only sensitivity reduction on 20m+

[carmine ginkgo]

finally someone who knows, they just need to add input based matchmaking then remove console v sync then all controller and mnk players in the world can play in peace ong 😭

[quick coyote]

Replace Recon with Defib as a Specialisation. Then delete Recon from the game.

[stuck torrent]

why voice chat in this game is not work?

[quick coyote]

So gun spread was officialy bug.
And its a big problem.
WHEN UPDATE WHEN WHEN

[nimble steppe]

So in the recent update they removed mnk support from XBOX and they knew there a lot people asking for mnk on console. They don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard while we playing with/against pc players?!!

And the game on pc support both inputs without any problems at all why they following DICE steps when they don’t want to support the game with mouse and keyboard for console while we play in PC lobby??!!

Look at the other games like call of duty and Fortnite and even Roblox it supports mouse and keyboard on console without any problems. This so stupid and makes me so frustrated. 🤬

[noble saffron]

brinfg the og map

[sand sable]

When majority of them will quit (what many will do 100% after last 2 patches) you have noone to laugh about anymore. And embark probably loses majority of income

[sour bane]

Nerf Defib + Recon. Or this game will just be MMM for the next six months (it already is in ranked)

[split rain]

Hey guys, Im having this problem (Fatal Error - Certificate Check Failed), anybody knows whats the problem?

[fringe mica]

Still no fix for similar team colors?

[fossil badger]

I've been having loads of issues with ping when playing this game on my ps5, and this is the only that I have issues with. My Wifi connection is great, anyone have any idea? I really want to enjoy this game :/

[desert nebula]

ikr

[sharp belfry]

When they went ahead and made triple medium stronger

[boreal wagon]

Please for the love of god rework recon senses.... you guys barely nerfed what is by far the strongest ability in the game.. such a lazily designed mechanic. Toggleable wallhack for free.
Please please please make it a pulse charge system where you have like 3 - 4 charges that last 1-2 seconds at a time so you have a chance to counter it instead of just getting tracked through walls...

[frail prawn]

** General Feedback **

First I wanna genuinely thanks to the devs for all the work you did on balancing things like the RPG and Nukes, even when I'm a Light main I'm happy to see than Nukes haven't been removed since that kind of freedom its what makes this game so good

I do wanna talk about some points that I found on the recent patch

• Baseball skin: haven't purchased yet but I see some people complain about than the swing animation being removed which is sad since it was very cool and original to the weapon skin.

• Dagger: in this recent patch due to the change of the crit hitmark, now it has been removed from the backstab, its not just than it feels better to hear the "ping" of the crit and see the golden hitmark but also it was a good way to tell if you hit a proper backstab, now lacks a visual or sound difference between a backstab and a failed stab unless you see the enemy hp (vid 1).

Alongside with the dagger, I really think backstab needs a fix or a rework since its so inconsistent due to the so long startup animation letting enemies to move spontaneously and preventing the backstab, it could be a hold or an instantaneous with a long end animation to prevent the spam (than its probably the reason you added the startup in first place) (vids 2-4)

• Throwable Knives: Thanks so much I now can see the cards as a projectile, I love it, I don't think its a need but it would be nice an increase on the projectile speed or the shooting rate alongside with decreasing/deleting the dispersion when jumping, sliding since its really high chance to fail in those situations for an already so hard to land weapon (vid 5)

• Recon sight: it really needs a rework, I recently played with it and you can literally know where anyone spawn or its at any moment, it could be a mapwide sonar pulse with charges (like 2-3) instead of an skill than its always active

• Defib: Please remove the respawn protection only when revived by a defib

[royal flume]

Sweats need to understand that not everybody has the time or desire to grind a game like it’s a full time job. The game should be able to be enjoyed by everybody. Just buff aim assist between where it was before and its nonexistent state now and have input based matchmaking. Problem mostly solved. Console is still at a huge disadvantage as this game doesn’t even hold 60fps during most fights. It’s not about “getting good” controller with no AA stands zero chance against m&k with all of PCs other advantages , this isn’t even debatable.

[rose surge]

I'm currently in a game with ONLY mediums. This update ruined the game. I'm deleting it until they make changes to fix this broken meta.

[lament minnow]

update made ranked unplayable, everyone can spam recon since they buffed the CD and it literally defeats the purpose of all invis or anything like that. not to mention the fcar is the only gun without bloom rn

[royal fractal]

The backstab hit marker is not yellow anymore :C

[sage bison]

embarrassing hit boxes lol, making a terrible weapon even worse, both throwing knives and dagger needs some love

[smoky gust]

defib has a wind-up animation that is, in theory, supposed to balance it
but in practice it doesn't do anything, since you can pre-charge it while running to the statue

if you had to do the animation at the statue, it would force you stop moving, making you vulnerable to headshots

this would give it an actual risk-reward factor while not nerfing it outside of combat/if you managed to get away with the statue

(if you got any different ideas, please tell me)

[hoary turtle]

idk if anyone mentioned it , but some weapon skins are equiping 2 at a time , was causing a friend to return to lobby every time we would find a game. atleast when we look up code, thats what we found . only returned me 1 time to lobby

[queen cloud]

soo good MnK players that care about aim and top players should suffer because little timmy thumbsticks needs his auto aim?
It's because of people like u 90+% of preds on Apex are on controller and most good MnK players left or switched

[hard mesa]

I am once again asking for grapple hook to have two charges

[waxen granite]

i disagree. Console players will keep playing. Remove recon it will kill the game faster than Aim Assist nerfs lmfaoo, Recon was single handily the dumbest shit ever thought of and I honestly don't understand how the devs thought Wall Hacks was a good idea. Especially in a FPS game.

[keen steppe]

Nobody says you have to grind to play BUT if you want to do good invest the time to get good. How is it that nowadays people always want stuff handed to them.
You can also enjoy games while being bad at them unless you believe that winning = fun. If so then invest time to in practice and get good on your own without relying on software. Especially if there is cross input.

If it is spereated inputs, only controller vs controller, its a different story. If you guys want to laser each other with software then thats fine.

[timber anvil]

hi how to fix your login attempt failed in the finals error code ta0002

[eager raven]

Yeah all of this...

[green root]

i’ve been playing on controller for the past couple weeks and play on a pro playstation controller. today i logged on and realized something was completely off in my settings. my sensitivity was completely different and i checked my controller settings and everything was the same. did something change with the update today? why can i not aim? the sensitivity ads and hipfiring are completely the same it’s it’s absolute garbage. i’m so upset because i don’t know what happened even when i checked the update logs. if anyone knows anything please let me know. this is very frustrating.

[pearl jay]

yo i keep getting a unreal engine 5 error everytime i load up

[summer venture]

.

[wanton quarry]

Fix the AA slowdown on ps5 within 20m bug. tysm

[vague sigil]

for the last time. the red menu is miserable to look at.

[sand sable]

Im with you on recon its completely broken with how it works, there are ways to change it in a ways that it works but currently it does not.

But on console the game is literally unplayable rn. Hate on aim assist as much as you want idc it just is needed on controllers as it has almost always been.
I liked the aim assist nerf initially but unfortunately i was wrong and it is just really really bad.

[daring fossil]

throwing knives are still trash, dispersion needs to be removed, and a range increase so I don't have to stare at the sky to throw them beyond 15 feet.

Revolver seems even harder to land shots after the patch even though it wasn't touched.

remove recon sense.

[split rain]

Hey guys, Im having this problem (Fatal Error - Certificate Check Failed), anybody knows whats the problem?

[sick marten]

still can't even play the game 💀

[royal flume]

I’ve been playing online shooters since Halo 2. I have thousands of hours playing them. I’m not a pro but my aim is just fine. All I’m arguing for is input based matchmaking or no PC console cross play and some AA as there is currently none. There has always been AA for controller, we all know it is necessary. The best players will still do better than average or poor players because they have the same advantage. It’s always been this way. Im not saying I want aim bot. I’m speaking on behalf of myself and everybody else who has to deal with playing against PCs that are superior in every single way. I don’t need to win to have fun but nobody is going to enjoy racing a lambo in their ford focus in what is supposed to be a competitive setting.

[lapis acorn]

just wait like 2 hours and they will revert it back tbh

[nocturne falcon]

why is the fractal disguise set with thee blue skins going at 1150, usually the blue recolors go for 150 each on the weapons why cant this pack be like 800?

[sour bane]

Stop complaining and just play Medium Recon Defib FCAR as Embark intends. They're not going to listen. Or just uninstall the game

Medium has been like this since open beta and it's very clear they have no intention to change things up despite L/H catching nerfs every update

You'll only play one class and load out and you'll be HAPPY about it

[mild ember]

https://x.com/strimitf/status/1747764209201377353?s=46&t=7iXMA5LHYs2Vv4DXj3y6_w my feedback here 😇

[fervent sable]

It just says login attempt failed? what do i do

[sullen oar]

Remove Defibs from the game. Thank you.

[balmy flume]

True

[autumn iris]

https://tenor.com/view/no-come-on-nah-nacho-nacho-libre-gif-24343910

[soft bolt]

didn’t they nerf aim assist by 30% of something stupid like that? i’ve had to completely change my settings to get used to it

[daring fossil]

seems like everyone is just crouch/jump spamming now because everyone knows how shit the games interpolation/lag compensation is. it would be nice to be able to see player pings too.

[astral abyss]

Yeah, the game is extremely console unfriendly right now and I hope Embark realizes that. 120 fps is the new norm that makes crossplay with PC somewhat fair but we're locked at 60. Then compound that with the now weak and/or often non-functional AA and harder to control recoil...it's not great.

[sudden tangle]

OKAY SO AGAIN, LIGHT IS DOGSHIT PLEASE BUFF IT

[delicate topaz]

No MnK support on console even though this is a cross platform game??? If I’m not allowed to play MnK against people that ARE using MnK, I’m outta here.

[green root]

i think they completely removed it. idk why the devs must think this game is seige or something

[steady ether]

Fix the pc/console MM and fix how you throw nukes im fine with dmg reduction but don't take away how far you can throw canisters just make c4 have less radius, if ppl think pc should play with console your lost.

[rocky steeple]

Tried asking in another chat, no response. Anybody else KBM having issues with their sens stuttering and just being overall extremely inconsistent after the patch? To clarify: half the time I can't even 180, crosshair randomly sticks/is not fully registering my movements. Occasionally it is so bad I get maybe 15 degree turn when trying to bhop 180 and back. Nothing changed in my settings so idkwtf

[late hinge]

I can't be the only one who wants a throwing knives rework

[tough kiln]

Embark: I stopped playing Apex when The Finals came out. Played Apex since season 1 and mained Crypto since he came out. I like recon characters. Knowing enemy locations is super cool to me. I also main medium build because the revolver is dope as hell (nice job there!). So I hope that gives me a little weight when I say Recon Sense is dumb. I don't enjoy using it because it feels broken and unfair. I have more fun playing with things that feel blanced and require skill to use (why I use revolver). It needs at the very least a complete rework or to be taken out. Please do something about this serious problem. I REALLY want this game to succeed. I love it. So many awesome things about it. Just very worried about some serious issues.

Similar issue with defib. Way too strong. It feels like a mandatory pick. If you don't take it you are at a severe disadvantage to teams that have it.

[tiny grail]

Idk if there is a survey or something to give feedback, but I would like to see a cashout terminal in the training area, maybe on an upper floor in the destructible house, such that we can test gadgets/strats with it.

[vagrant raptor]

the stun gun didn’t need a duration nerf. what it needed was to not have our abilities and gadgets disabled while stunned. its not a glitch grenade so why cant i pull up a mesh shield while stunned? it also should have had its cooldown doubled, its up too often.

also the rpg nerf was unnecessary. it has a long cooldown, at the very least it should be able to kill a light if they are dumb enough to sit still long enough for us to hit then with it.

the c4’s cooldown should have been reduced with how big of a nerf it got as well.

[lament minnow]

REWORK RECON AND ADD DEFIB BATTERY LIFE PER ROUND OR LONGER COOLDOWN

[rich fox]

i totally understand why invis was nerfed… i don’t understand why recon wasn’t tho.

medium is still the most dominant class in the game and i was truly hoping that after todays patch, they wouldn’t be.

idk, maybe i just suck at the game lol.

[sonic flare]

Recon at least got a cooldown nerf

[edgy lotus]

i'd love for there to be an option for, when creating a new contestant, to copy one you already have. like for solo bank it, I want to make a contestant that's only a slight modification of my current medium build, but i don't want to have to equip everything again

[steel stirrup]

So is that really a bug on Console with AA ?

[eager raven]

Yeah throwing knifes are currently really, really bad. Super fun!.. but very not good to use. Kind of throwing. (haha, get it?)

[unique urchin]

Update 1.5.0
Console:
Fixed an issue that allowed Mouse and Keyboard to be enabled on some consoles.

What does it mean???

[daring fossil]

i rarely ever play heavy and I think the nukes got over-nerfed the heavy shouldnt be able to throw a nuke 100m, but nerfed to 5 feet is pretty extreme the damage nerf didn't even do anything to its burst potential and light nukes (even waiting for the second breach charge cooldown) isnt even viable anymore (it wasn't really to begin with), and RPG shouldnt have gotten another damage reduction. could have done a dozen other things to make harder to use instead of taking away its one-shot ability.

[modern locust]

include enemy's kills in the killfeed

[exotic wave]

Why would you want a weapon to 1 shot light players?

[candid delta]

I feel like one of the best things they can add to this game a better rewarding system. Simply giving us something to make us want to win for, other than fame points or exp, will make players want to work harder and get more immersed into the game. IDK what rewards they could implement but making the winners feel more special would rly motivate the players IMO. I have every equipment i can buy, im done w battle pass, and once im in diamond id only be playing to play atp. Giving us more to work for would be rly nice and would take this game to another level if done properly.

[late hinge]

I would suggest giving the throwing knives a much faster travel speed and making the throws less of two throws at a time and more one throw at a time with a good frequency and maybe a damage buff with that but I'm not sure it's necessary

[orchid island]

why is the fractal disguise set a epic set, all its items are rare, the other sets all have an item the same rarity of the pack. Like Urban Operative has a few legendary items in it, and thus is a legendary pack.

[pulsar jackal]

"Solo Bank It" should count being in top 3/4 as a win in the challenges and stats.

It makes zero sense to play Solo Bank It and try to get a daily win, think of it like this: There are 3 teams in the normal 3v3v3 modes, where in Solo Bank It there is 12 players, and only 1 gets to score a win, so a 33% win chance in team-based modes versus 8.33% in Solo Bank It.

[rustic fossil]

A great steering wheel that doesn't whiff out of the window while I driving. That is a good idea.

[inner coral]

1.) Jet boots / gravity boots would be easily implemented (without impeding on the foot structure/model)
Also #👂┇game-feedback 2.) Please add optics ,stocks and/or barrel mods so we can add a buff to other guns we would otherwise not pick.
ie : switch the scope off the FCAR for a bigger mag- or take a smaller mag on the AKM in exchange for an optic of choice.
3.) please don't cover my watch with gloves. adjust the glove or check which ones actually clip please- I want to wear the watch from CB2 but I also love the Skeleton hands....

[raven hamlet]

idk where to post this since theres not a bug report channel but just had a bug where i couldnt shoot the light shotty. i couldnt reload since it said 2/2 in the ammo counter. only thing i remember that could be a cause is i was revived with no ammo and i reloaded then died immediately afterwards again

[cloud jungle]

Remove dead go boom or make melee kills not trigger it

[crisp oxide]

Thanks for ruining a great game embark. I have nothing to look forward to anymore in this cruel world.

[frail prawn]

Do not add mods to weapons, it always end up with a game way harder to balance and in super ugly meta weapons that ruins the game

[delicate topaz]

That means that you have to use a controller with no AA against PC players on MnK. I only played MnK on this game on Xbox. I really don’t even want to try with a controller when there are other, good shooters out there that support MnK. It’s a bunch of bullshit. Embark is totally fucking this game up.

[daring fossil]

because it's an RPG. theres tonnes of ways they could have made it harder to use, or slowed its swap-to speed and projectile speed giving lights a chance to dodge. the biggest issue with the rpg was that a heavy could just pull it out mid-fight and insta-shoot for a free kill.

@late hinge I think they just need movement/slide/air dispersal removed, a slight range increase, and maybe a slightly faster primary throw speed.

[clever haven]

The 1 round requirement to play tournament was a bad change. If your a solo player, you can now expact to get teammates who don't understand how to play the game, have little to no other equipment than the basic ones to play in a team with you. It should be changed back to 12 rounds.

[grim olive]

Did the latest patch add forced crossplay to rank games?

[kindred nest]

No one is gonna answer you here, have the same problem and still didn't find any soultion, i've made a post on steam and it seems a lot of people are having the same problem

[unique urchin]

Don't understand why they don't add mouse and keyboard support while you're cross playing. PC players can choose but console players are stuck with a controller.

[sour bane]

People are going to be argue about different things because the game is fundamentally different if all you play is the casual game modes vs. ranked

In casual, Light dominates because it's stealthy and high damage, and excels in catching people in 1:1 situations, so all the casual-only players are going to argue that Light is broken, busted, and call for nerfs

But if you play ranked, you see a completely different game where MMM/MMH is common, and if you play Light, you are pretty much at a disadvantage, and Mediums running Recon/Turret/Defib/FCAR is 90% of games

These two communities yelling at each other are comparing apples to oranges and just yelling at a void

What makes Medium good in ranked may not make it as good in casual modes, and what makes Lights good in casual modes makes it quite weak in ranked.

I don't even know how Embark can balance these two and it seems they chose not to balance for both casual and ranked, and instead opted for balancing for casual

[tulip wagon]

An I think you should leave reference WHAT

[summer venture]

It's a rework at BEST, the few times I played with it the min req was the most annoying and they made it easier, these devs are smoking something fr

[tough topaz]

WE WANT MOUSE AND KEYBOARD SUPPORT BACK ON CONSOLE!

[tiny grail]

I think some of the nerfs were too harsh. I like the throwable weight solution, but it seems a bit more dramatic than perhaps necessary. The RPG damage nerf seems misguided. I think activation time rework might have been a better solution to it deleting light players, but I think it should still be a OHKO even if there needs to be some balancing solution.

[quick coyote]

the SH1900 should of only decreased to 11 not to 10, too big of a nerf.

[placid valley]

Light doesn't do higher damage relatively. Heavy and medium can still kill light in 3s if they are accurate enough. Light is just a class that bully those other players who is obviously bad than itself.

[boreal wagon]

Yeah mind blowing that embark opted to nerf the least played class and barely made changes to the most used and most toxic ability in the game...

[lapis acorn]

you can disable crossplay if you are on console so u never face a PC player. you are playing against other controller players with the same settings. but i do agree with you in saying we want input based matchmaking from the start even with old AA. rank 2 is on controller and still beams just fine against PC players along with the other controller players in top 50.

[serene meteor]

WE WANT MNK ON CONSOLES, YOU GUYS ALREADY TOOK AA AWAY WTF GAME IS FOR COMPLETE CASUALS…. how many console players are top 500 compared to pc

[stiff linden]

Two things: there is a visual glitch when using invis bomb that makes you stay invis mode permanently effecting your pov making it grey and messing with thermal sights … still existing post patch also please add more options to practice tool like map access as well as turning off cooldowns to try to train certain things

[tribal bramble]

Vaulting now feels really weird. I get stuck a lot more and I also fall down after using vertical ziplines way more often

[brisk lagoon]

i dont understand how the career level works as i dont have career level rewards for level 3 but am way past it.

[gloomy merlin]

after playing some time today, update is a step in the right direction. Recon obviously still needs to be toned down but the game feels better so far imo.

[delicate topaz]

WE WANT MNK ON CONSOLES, YOU GUYS ALREADY TOOK AA AWAY WTF GAME IS FOR COMPLETE CASUALS….

[clever haven]

Ranked should be separated from PC and Console. Separate ladders, separate top 500 charts. Console was filled with controller players in top 500 before aim assist nerf. Aim assist nerf was necessary.

MnK shouldn't be allowed on console, that would give players who are able to XIM on console have an unfair advantage over other console players.

[rancid skiff]

Bring AA back. I just want to have fun.

[proud gate]

The invis nerf isn't really important, and make glitch EOI again cuz it kinda isn't as good

[daring fossil]

reduce Grapple cool down by 3 seconds

Also, I was already getting bored of this game (unfortunately), this last patch was extremely disappointing. misguided over-nerfs and not actually adjusting the things that should be adjusted is going to make people quit.

@flint falcon @dusky yoke #game-announcements

[flint falcon]

Don’t know how it was managed in such a short time but y’all managed to make every gun in the game dog shit less than a year after launch

[dusky yoke]

FIX ADS RECOIL AND BLOOM. REVERT THE PATCH IF YOU HAVE TO.

[ruby sentinel]

I think it’s just the pc players having fun now

[fervent pilot]

Light needs a buff imo

[cunning stag]

I'm done with this game

[versed oracle]

Duos please bru

[wanton quarry]

0% AA on PS5
No MnK support on console
Crossplay forced on

This is what PC players wanted, to shit on console players, you bet they having fun.

Embark - Fix AA on PS5

[left jetty]

Please make the games end faster, or if the game is ending in less than a minute: get rid of losing your score as a penalty. When a game ends it takes too long lmao I don't care about all that stuff I just want to go immediately to the main menu and get on with it.

[flat girder]

is anyone having problems playing in a party? Like one player being invisibe in the lobby

[gaunt jay]

can we have an teammate preference in ranked?!

[urban granite]

1.5 Bug - Hair Glitching through clothes still happening on all Free unlock hoodies. Paid hoodies were all fixed

[mystic plinth]

Idk what were you trying to achieve with this patch literaly nerfing everything that plays. Maybe try to instead buff things that are isnt played very often such as grapple hook dashes goo gun, throwing knifes and so much more. Light is still 150 and is collateral doesnt matter how good you play him, heavy is still 350 and is a fucking tank, lewis gun can still hipfire outshoot everything... I mean no changes is worse than small changes but i think you guys are missing the point with those patches. BTW game stability(crashes, freezes, fps stability etc.) are still to this day werent adressed.

[wild shale]

PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE
ADD CHAT SO I CAN SPEAK ( I DONT HAVE A MIC )
PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE

[earnest tide]

love the changes makes lights and heavy so much easier to kill as a medium player keep it up

[autumn iris]

get one

[warm pasture]

Why does MKB doesnt work on console?

[icy aspen]

Have they done something more with aim assist this update it feels non existent

[autumn widget]

Recon Senses --> Recon Pulses
Changed from being wall hacks to Recon pulses that has a 60m range that reveals enemies 2 times with 2 second delays between each pulse (2 charges)

[sour bane]

thank you embark, next patch just delete light and heavy please thank you 🙏

[crisp oxide]

matchmaking error perists. you made this game medium only for ranked.l; why embark why

[quick coyote]

It's going to be widely known as "how to ruin a good game".
And the author is a Embark.

i love how this chat is completely ignoring the multiple buffs to the light class through weapon damage increases and explosion damage decreases

[sudden tangle]

competitive balance is fked

[chilly bay]

game still crashed all of the time :/

[orchid island]

#bug-discussion

[daring fossil]

pretty clear where their priority is.

@quick coyote the nerf to the c4 damage makes no difference to lights. the RPG damage does barely, but as a light main I think that was unnecessary, it needed it's swap-to-fire speed nerfed if anything, not more damage decreases, rpg should one-shot a light, at least on direct hit, and the damage buffs to LH1 and Mac11 just made it easier for lights to kill lights, that's it.

[karmic summit]

I've created more content on solo than on a team...interesting. 🤔 🤔 🤔

[cerulean dust]

fun fact: the sledge hammer looks like the heavy is flayling around a -5 pound stick

[median frost]

How's the Recon FCAR club going pal'?

[placid valley]

Compares to the incredible low hp, the damage increased is not a thing. Light is still being killed by heavy and medium in 3s without cloak spam. Light has been bad alread. They removed the cloak spamming but they didn't add anything to make it up. When the most of time you don't have full hp, rpg can still one tap you.

[autumn hazel]

Thank you embark for making the game so much more enjoyable. As @crisp oxide mentioned nukes were a big part of why this game was going down the drain. But now there is light! Now there is hope!!

[edgy urchin]

I think the recent updates are some of the best, however i think light should get a slight health buff and the invis should get more of a cooldown so it cant be toggled on and off so quickly

lol people are fr sitting here clown reacting waaa the game got more balanced waaaa 👶

[tacit dune]

great game

[stoic pumice]

I'm just brainstorming here but what if we kept the 1.5 nerfs to light but made the light a smaller target/hitbox and buffed movement speed

[quick coyote]

i don't see this mentioned a lot but the fire canister throwable really needs to get buffed, it takes FOREVER to explode, the fire area is so small and since it destroys terrain you cant even use it as an area denial, besides when the canister is on fire it should remove gas clouds instead of waiting untill after it explodes.

[deft terrace]

remove the trail from the throwing knives. It looks dumb and also makes the knives look like they're moving slower than before.

[solemn viper]

I just won my first game of solo bank it and I feel like this is also applicable for all modes on the finals but I just wish there was a little more in terms of micro rewards or stats to identify ranked tournament wins/solo bank it wins vs just the overall round wins. Even just give me one more screen after the game ends to celebrate the win. With ranked modes for example you can grind for almost an hour and then right after your squad walks out (which is kind of underwhelming for me right now) then you just get your normal XP, no bonus for actually winning the game. Like dang, throw me an extra 1k xp for winning? A trophy? like anything would be cool besides just going back to the homescreen with nothing.. just a thought

[true zinc]

I think the single most obvious and necessary change is fixing the ranked matchmaking. I am in gold and I was matched up against staycation who is diamond 1 and has been in the top 500 players. At this point ranked is just luck because sometimes you face bronzes and sometimes you face diamonds. I dont care if the queue time is a bit longer as long as I am getting fair games.

[sharp idol]

anyone know how to fix the cant login glitch

[frank skiff]

Yesssss

[plain bridge]

Where’s the rank matchmaking fix?

[delicate topaz]

WE WANT MNK ON CONSOLES, YOU GUYS ALREADY TOOK AA AWAY WTF GAME IS FOR COMPLETE CASUALS…

[mental cipher]

so they just completely take out aim assist this patch then not say anything?

[wicked crest]

@vocal shadow Yes, cheating is like taking candy from a baby...PC and console players shouldn't be in the same lobbies unless crossplay is on. PC players are in Playstation games with cross playoff is obviously a bug from the new patch that needs to be addressed.

[daring fossil]

i would argue the game isn't for casuals if they keep nerfing casuals

[upper citrus]

bro suggested power creep

[placid valley]

I mean the core strategy of the game is to defend/offend nodes. While other classes having shields and turrets, if light has no advantage on 1v1 or picking up heads, then it's meaningless to play. Removing the cloak spamming is a good thing to make light not that extreme. But if it's not that extreme anymore, the hp should go higher.

[surreal goblet]

Just wanna mention the infinite melee hack still exist here in Asia. Idk what the update does exactly.

[quick coyote]

Team chat since PTT is weird and is buggy

[sonic spoke]

Aimbot + no recoil does not seem to have been stopped

[icy aspen]

Yep.

[clear nova]

Can’t que in with three players

[cold pilot]

REMOVE RECON

[faint torrent]

aim assist completly gone!!!!!

[waxen granite]

I'd rather die from exposer from sleeping outside and have my lifeless body robbed and picked over than play against a lobby of recon users. remore recon or i quit,

[west kite]

Here are some changes I think would be beneficial to the game:

•Classes are not balanced. That is clear as day, especially with the new patch that was released. Mediums dominate the meta (especially now). Please focus on fine tuning the light and heavy classes to bring them on par with the medium class, so all classes are viable (especially for ranked). You are essentially handicapped when you have a light on your team (most of the time, there are some cracked light players.. but not as consistent as playing medium or heavy class)

•Matchmaking (especially in ranked) needs work. What’s the point of ranked when you are playing people in multiple different ranks. You should only play a ranked game against people in the same rank as you. So if you are in plat, you should only be playing against other plat players. Ranked doesn’t feel like ranked. And that is something that players have complained about in other shooters, like Apex for example.

•Weapons need balancing to bring other weapons in line with other weapons.

•Please add a text chat

•More modes need to be added. I understand that the solo mode was added to get player feedback. But more modes need to be added. (TDM, 6v6, king of the hill, maybe a duos mode, just throwing out ideas. I understand maybe all these modes won’t get added, but just throwing out ideas)

•AA needs to be fixed

•Directional audio (especially foot steps) needs work. Teammates foot steps are generally more prevalent than enemies.

There are more things obviously that need some work and that people have mentioned. Overall, I enjoy this game and want to see it succeed.

Quality> Quantity. It doesn’t really seem like this patch really took the time to test the changes that were made and/or the good feedback that was given from the community. It wasn’t all bad. But it wasn’t great.

[eternal apex]

same problem

[tired falcon]

goat legs help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sudden tangle]

the balance is hilarious. i used to be a light main, now im playing heavy and its fking stupid. it is SO MUCH EASIER to do stuff. LIKE SO MUCH. ITS SO UNBALANCED ITS UNREAL

[tall sparrow]

Fix AA nerfs to strong

[wise flower]

downloaded the game for the first time and i cant even play it lol it says i have TFLA0002 bug

[rustic crescent]

skill issue

[dull pasture]

That's because lights are risk over reward. You either suck at it or your good. Can't expect just because you can't get it it's underpowered

[rose surge]

I think the solo-bank-it was a poor way to address the problem of solo-queuing; however, I'm happy that the developers made an effort.

A better solution would be a mode with larger teams, perhaps a 6v6 mode. This works because it's very rare that there are full squads of 6 people. It's no problem to solo queue into a TDM in COD because there are so many people that communication is less important. I think a 6v6 mode that could be fun would be Capture the Flag. This would also allow for lights to have more utilization and it would also make use of the large maps that the game currently has.

Edit: also in the 6-v-6 mode, remove respawn delays. That would be more fun as well.

[daring fossil]

I played light main since alpha, through all 3 betas (300 hours) and now release (150 hours) and even if you're "decent" it's not fun to play lights anymore (and I dont use the cloak cringy builds either)

[untold copper]

womp womp

[karmic wren]

GOAT LEGS

[fresh frost]

help goatlegs

[nocturne falcon]

CAN WE PLEASE GET RID OF RECON THIS IS SO STUPID LOL

[steady ether]

Agree I still nuke ppl but it kills you and them cause your right it only goes 3ft in front of you so yea thats very extreme and def needs fixed asap.

[wanton root]

Please keep recon there's nothing wrong with it 🙂

[quick coyote]

Revert update, you nerfed light, didnt gave us grapple hook, abd buffed recon wallhack, and rewasd aimbot is still works!!!

[wanton quarry]

Fix AA on PS5 tysm

[dim pulsar]

Flamethrower did not need the buff

[clear nova]

Fix AA

[quartz wave]

yea this update is bad, game feels so much worse and boring and completely fucked mine and so many others playstyle

[native flax]

I agree with that sentiment. Lights are meant to be risk/reward but as it currently stands. The strongest thing that lights have is invis with db and they nerfed that.

I understand that invis toggling can be annoying to play against and 2 shotting heavys is probably dumb for the game but the overall problem with lights with invis is recon/scar meta dominates every light because recon sees invis.

I would have said 1 hit rpg also stops light from being played in high level ranked but that got fixed which is a good step forward.

So as I’ve suggested many times, recon should not see invis characters.

[left jetty]

I'm tired of these default crosshair settings, so from now on I will post in here every single day until we get more crosshair options.

We need more crosshair options.

Give us more crosshair options.

[kind iron]

^ let me have my dot crosshair

[spiral merlin]

please add key board and mouse compatibility with console, maybe make it put them into kbm lobbys if they are useing it. im literally begging

[remote citrus]

Barrel nuke is still broken. still able to be instant killed :S

[drifting storm]

When are they nerfing this dumb c4 barrel thing all these noobies keep abusing

[delicate topaz]

WE WANT MNK ON CONSOLES, YOU GUYS ALREADY TOOK AA AWAY WTF GAME IS GOING DOWNHILL FAST…

[green eagle]

just turn your zooms sens multiplier and scoped zoom multiplier to HALF of what it normally was. boom aa feels the same

[sour bane]

buff recon

[toxic otter]

as a light player, RPG should maybe one shot lights on direct hit to reward skilled play

[autumn hazel]

There is 100% nothing wrong with recon. Embark if you’re reading this keep it the way it is😁😁

[dull pasture]

Lmao thank all the under aged kids playing games with zero brain development, whining like they know whats good for the game after playing it for 1 day. 🤣 🤓 what happened to the old style gamers who just deal with it and get better then your opponents instead of crying to mommy (devs) to fix the game.

[true roost]

buff defib 💀
buff fcar 👍
buff recon ✅

[real pier]

Please add mouse and keyboard support to console

[royal flume]

Why does it take so long to load into the practice range? I seriously get put into matches quicker sometimes

[flint falcon]

I would try to get good but having one class dominate ruins the game what’s the point of heavy and light if they are just dog shit dumbass

[tall sparrow]

I was happy for them to nerf it not make it non existent
Not a skill issue, we don't aim with our hand or have the strafe movement pc do
It was all good for pc to complain about AA you hypocrite

[swift surge]

buff riot shield

[wise sky]

i just got done playing a round of the new game mode it was really fun but i dont know if its just me or if its lagging a bunch and i think the res time is a bit to long

[sudden tangle]

I AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING FOR YOU TO REVERT DOUBLE BARREL NERFS

[tiny grail]

They did nerf it(this patch), by adding projectile weight to the c4 so that it wouldn't go as far and would fly wonky, which IMO is the right direction on how to nerf it

[thorn elbow]

as a heavy player i was fine with nuke being removed entirely because it shouldn't be part of the game. Recon sense is in-game wallhacks and shouldn't be in the game. They nerfed one and buffed the other. Really makes you think about what class they want to run the lobbies

[noble carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/doctorevil-no-gif-22331678

[surreal goblet]

this mode is rat's dream

[nocturne falcon]

please do somethng to recon besides buff it

[sinful lance]

doesnt matter how much dmg your character does when you're never alive to deal it

[maiden frigate]

Anybody up for cs2 ? cuz at this point it's better

[fallen wind]

Dont understand the flamethrower buff would really be nice if you guys nerf that instead of buffing it was playing against a double flamer team and they just spam that

[toxic otter]

I think cloak nerfs would have been fine if reduced by a half second instead of 1

it seems kind of extreme to nerf it by 1 second when recon was adjusted by a half second instead

[gilded ivy]

people whining about recon are probably the loser lights who run around invis trying to get an easy cheap kill on you 🤡

[remote citrus]

for long range, short range toss can still isntant kill on a complete miss

[smoky storm]

Rework double barrel shotgun and sniper rifle into gadgets, instead of primary weapons.

Replace DB with a different style shotgun, such as an AA-12(full auto), or SPAS-12(pump action). This would be much easier to balance.

1)Turn the DB into a utility gadget. Shoots both barrels at once. Both target and shooter get knocked back(similar to Ashe shotgun from Overwatch). Can be used to double jump, or as a pseudo dash, or to knock back a target and/or create distance between you and a target, or in a pinch, finish off a low HP target.

Double barrel shotguns and snipers are inherently difficult/impossible to balance, especially with the huge hp differences between light/medium/heavy. Either the weapons are good against heavy, but OP against light/medium, or good against light/medium, but useless against heavy. The numerical HP differences just do not allow for fun/fair balance with those two weapon archetypes. The above solution keeps both in the game(including all their assets!) but gives an option that will be easier to balance and better for gameplay.

No matter how the current DB is numerically balanced, it will either be OP/cheesy, or insanely week, but still annoying/cheesy to play against. The best solution is giving lights another interesting and fun utility gadget to further enable skill expression using the already existing DB model - making sure no assets or work goes to waste while also improving the class.

2. For snipers, turning it into a gadget similar to the tracking dart would be ideal. You get X amount of shots, then it goes on a cooldown, and has to be reloaded once it's off cooldown. This turn the sniper rifle from a problematic primary into a utility gadget, giving you a limited long range option. This alleviates pressure on everyone in the lobby, including those unfortunate enough to have a light "sniper main" on their team who feel they do not contribute to objective play, due to the inherent limitations of sniper rifle archetypes.

[quick coyote]

I wanna go back to open beta.

[drifting storm]

the right direction is to not make it one tap mediums and lights lmao, its super easy and way top strong

[untold copper]

bitch and moan simulator

[vocal shadow]

Til playing a game is cheating

[true zinc]

I think the single most obvious and necessary change is fixing the ranked matchmaking. I am in gold and I was matched up against staycation who is diamond 1 and has been in the top 500 players. At this point ranked is just luck because sometimes you face bronzes and sometimes you face diamonds. I dont care if the queue time is a bit longer as long as I am getting fair games. Reply to this if you agree. Also i want confirmation that devs actually look at these so I am not wasting my time.

[winged turret]

i feel like more variety in the crosshair types you could make in this game would be great aside from just color changes and thickness changes. I think it would be cool to add crosshair codes for players to copy from others as well as different styes that can be custom made or preset options. Some preset options could be like a dot, a smaller cross that doesn't get smaller or bigger depending on player movement or weapon, hollow circle, upside down v or whatever you call that, of course the default crosshair for those who like it, etc. Something like this would add just a little more variety to a newer game like this and I think lots of players would enjoy it. i also think it would be a nicer quality of life change as in games like csgo or others personal preference for crosshairs can be important to some (like myself). Thanks for the consideration

[real pier]

Please add mouse and keyboard support to console, every modern fps game has this option, I play with cross play on I just want to get better with keyboard and mouse and this game is funnn

[thorn elbow]

remove recon senses
remove ability to stick c4 to canisters
nerf fcar
revert RPG to 150
buff dB (SH1900) pellet dmg from 10 to 11
increase defib cooldown significantly AND/OR make it an ability (to replace recon)
decrease turret ready time but nerf damage dealt to players a little
decrease medium shotgun damage based on the distance from target

[rustic crescent]

tell me you're sped without telling me you're sped

[tiny grail]

I think it's probably fair to one tap lights, and be a decent kill confirm one mediums, but I think c4 range should be adjusted while on projectile (not overall) or something to make it a bit harder to actually kill someone with it. I mainly want to preserve the tech aspects for activating barrels (DoT and such) and for building destruction. Player damage and damage range I can see needing adjustment. Regardless nerfing the throw range I think is good so that you have to be in the contested area to get it off, and so can't do it as easily and safely as before.

[lone charm]

Add kbm back to console

[glass sonnet]

All the casuals got their way and they officially nerfed heavy into oblivion. Classic overturned adjustment based on the quick play criers.

[stable moon]

Test your patches before you bork matchmaking every single patch

[lavish oracle]

Remove the bloom from the .357 while you're at it, cuz it's dogdoo atm ❤️

[sinful lance]

wow recon sense is still in the game. guess i'll see you guys never. have "fun" playing high tier lobbies full of 12 medium players

[shy current]

Please fix team play bug

[untold copper]

boohoo

[wind hatch]

game went from 240k to 80k in under 2 months, which is its entire lifetime at this point. maybe its time to actually start getting rid of the stuff people keep complaining about before the dead game memes are legit. the people who are argueing git gud and all that are clearly the smaller part of the player base.

[wintry bluff]

Hello Does the new update include support for the PS5 mouse and keyboard ??

[drifting storm]

the nerf doesnt effect explosive barrels btw...

[normal bone]

ps5 mouse support asap

[keen niche]

Matchmaking for parties is borked. TFMR0100. Always says other party member cancelled matchmaking. Tried steam restarts, verifying files, PC restarts, changing regions - no luck.

[potent pasture]

We had that, changed hosts , was fine after that

[random falcon]

me nad my friends are having a lot of trouble get into games and not getting disconnected. We are getting punished for game crashes and EmbarkID problems that the support team are unnable or unwilling to help. They have a great game but at this rate, the game is only going to die

[mystic smelt]

Why nerf cloak, it was so unnecessary, light is still a terrible class to play. Either lower the amounts of damage of environment like gas and fire to % of hp per second or buff light to 200

Also three-stacking doesnt work, cancels Q

[maiden frigate]

idk but fix plz

[placid valley]

Basically lights are still being one tapped. If you play the game you know the whole environment is full of tiny damage. There is no way you can keep full hp in the most of time. 10 damage less is not a big deal. Light is simply the worst class

[fading yoke]

Actually the game is extremely biased towards medium class. It's the best class by far and any ranked mm is pretty much filled with 12 mediums because light is completely overshadowed by mediums with fcar which does only 5dps less than MP5 but shoots farther with less recoil+defib+recon senses. Lights and heavies both got nerfed while medium stayed in their totally overpowered state.

[frail prawn]

Disagree, Heavy its not the best class, but medium is, M can do a 3 healer team with a beam of destruction each one (aka FCAR) and a defib in order make a team with virtualy 6 players, constant heal and a weapon that can delete anything on its sights

[tiny grail]

I haven't played heavy enough to be that informed on this, but is there really a need for 2 c4s? maybe the nuke meta could be adjusted by removing a c4 and buffing cd? That way you don't get a double c4 nuke. Also it does affect explosive barrels, but not as much(makes it off balanced and fly weird, I think that's good, but should be a stronger effect). Generally I think it should be a tech, but more for utility than direct combat(e.g. Applying DoT affects to an area and dealing environment damage, while being a kill confirm for people at low/med health)

[quick coyote]

Dev should play the game.
They need unless silver tier.
🤣

[languid breach]

Mnk players have a ridiculously huge advantage now i get the AA was op but now it doesnt exist and im stuck just chilling in diamond

[frigid idol]

is crossplay working for anyone i cant play with the xbox bros

[livid oasis]

Can we get an APS turret nerf there’s no way it should be able to destroy stuff infinitely. Give it maybe 4-6 shots and then it destroys or if it’s going to be kept infinite make it a specialization

So what if it’s not? It’s still annoying to deal with and broken asf

[autumn iris]

it's not really that hard to destroy

[hazy yew]

this happened to me too. ontop of it the numbers dont correlate eitehr. so irritating

[sinful lance]

it was a red tank coming directly at you... you shot it yourself while ADSing and self elimed. no cheats here dude . you can even see the red tank in the lower frame of your optic sight at 4s if you just slow down the footage lmfao. you can even see where you shot it while it's flying directly at you...

[quick coyote]

The daily missions were not updated today?

[dull pasture]

It's because it's free and all the kids whose parents don't buy them games just downloaded this to see what's it's about. The "Git gud" is clear and true, this is a skill based game with communication being key and 15 yr olds I'm sorry don't have the greatest communication let alone a mic half the time so yes alot of the whining is just whining. Then when the devs listen to that whining and act on it the player base that will actually stick with the game ends up leaving and so does the whiny kids because even after they fix whatever they cry about there is always more whining. Kids just need to play games at the right age and we wouldn't have all this whining bullshit on a real note.

[thin nexus]

medium is still broke wall hacks op as hell

[karmic cloud]

why did i start getting 10 less vrs than other players again?

[last bison]

Silently move cheaters to a cheater section of the game. That way they don't know they are playing with a bunch of other cheaters and all the honest players are left in peace.

[balmy pewter]

add grenade notifs

[vital widget]

pls add tsr the game can be so fuzzy at times

[deft thicket]

My feedback:
I like dis game

[spiral mango]

make LFG channels for ranked and one for casual

[sour bane]

recon med with fcar is literally ez mode. ranked.

i dont even need the right half of my brain to play this class and with recon. just let wall hacks tell me everything i need to know

[viscid oriole]

This wouldn't work as you'd expect. The point of each class having a even number difference is the same as across most FPS games. So you can figure out how much damage they need to die. Imagine you play CS or Val and instead of balancing the guns you changed the total heath to 114 and light shields to 32 and heavy to 49. For simplicity yes, they change the gun damages and therefor change the meta to evolve how people play the game.

To your second point, that makes absolutely no sense. Mainly because it would be opposite. The fact that it would do percentage is like saying, "There shouldn't be a difference between classes." Also, in total relation of reality it would be the inverse of you were saying.

Lastly, the heavy already can't go through grates like the mediums and lights can plus they move like molasses. In the inverse of your grenades, If you want to change the speed I think that each class should be able to throw them different distances too. Since each class currently throws them the same distance, why is a 6'6" 300lb man able to throw the same as some 5'1" 90lb man in this game? The Melee is a core part of the game because people enjoy that style. putting it in it's own game mode would ruin those weapons for those that like it. Also, restricting what weapons and abilities are able to be used gets rid of different playstyles also. Along with everyone's ability to get used to knowing how to deal with them.

[queen rover]

MMM every game now, if that was your goal good job but I'm done for now. One more clueless update and I'm out for good shit is a joke

[placid valley]

no, it isn't. I don't have enough bullets to wipe out a team. need more bullets for sure

[ancient hare]

Was controller zoom sens being doubled the only thing that got messed up in controller settings? I spent a long time configuring everything how I like it and I'm hoping when I log on I don't gotta redo my whole setup. I'm on pc

[quick coyote]

I make a list what I like in this game 👍👍
First thing is

[ocean mesa]

Messed up for me too.
I also can’t queue with my friends

[sudden tangle]

i love how L isnt viable anymore, very smart balancing

[wanton quarry]

Fix the AA slowdown within 20m bug on ps5 tysm

[surreal knot]

Do you guys can play on teams of 3? I cant, i get some error about queue cancelled everytime

[spiral merlin]

KBM ON CONSOL OPTIONS JUST PUT US IN PC LOBBIES IM BEGGING

[sharp belfry]

The only fun matches anymore are the ones without mediums, which is basically none

[sinful lance]

tbh it never was viable. people just didnt know it was bad yet

[mystic smelt]

@true epoch We cant que in parties with 3 people, thought yall should know for game-announcements

[quick coyote]

genuinely, i would like to hear how you’d fix lights. ive heard a lot of dissatisfied opinions but nothing constructive. any takers?

[deft wing]

This. I loved this game, played it every day since launch pretty much, and now I refuse to touch it and uninstalled it.

[languid breach]

THE FINALS = 🗑️

[craggy tree]

Please re add keyboard and mouse to consoles to the finals I find the input much more enjoyable and not everyone can afford a high end pc, hope you re-add it officially cause until then the game is much less fun over all.

[karmic cloud]

i just tried to play the finals but got into a match where every team was 3 mediums, unplayable lol. all fcar all defibrillator

[quick coyote]

Big brain = Uninstall sooner

[grizzled sorrel]

YES PLEASE 😭😭

[tiny grail]

Random thought, but I think a gamemode like bank it, but where the vaults spit out coins over time (kinda like a control point) instead of lump sums might be nice to kinda help with distributing coins around a team rather than betting it all on one teammate

[flint falcon]

The only reason I complain is bc it seems that light needs more survivability and heavy just doesn’t pump out enough damage with some guns like the Lewis gun used to be good and now it feels like a pea shooter

[finite charm]

Im having a new issue today with making lobbies. If a third new member joins, it says that they keep cancelling queue at around 15 seconds. This happened to me with 2 different parties and people. It was not an issue with cross play turned off, and instead a separate issue. Thought yall should know, but otherwise it’s a pretty good update!

[ancient hare]

was the zoom sens all that was bugged or did you have to reconfigure everything? I'm wondering if waiting to log on when all that stuff is fixed is better

[delicate topaz]

WE WANT MNK ON CONSOLES, YOU GUYS ALREADY TOOK AA AWAY WTF GAME IS GOING DOWNHILL FAST…

[noble rune]

has any fix been posted for error code TFMR0100? keeps canceling matchmaking for my trio. We all tried restarting/verifying/changing hosts/restarting steam

[spiral merlin]

YES YES YES

[naive apex]

welp cant enjoy the finals on xbox anymore, aim assist is non existent at this point

[storm bramble]

Hi I like the game but I am a lefty so is there any way of putting a setting in to switch joysticks functions to make the right the left and such

[vague summit]

same

[ocean mesa]

DO NOT ADD MNK ON CONSOLE PLEASE. THIS PERSON IS LYING WE DO NOT WANT THAT.

If you do add a separate gamemode that only MNK people are allowed to play

[rocky frigate]

the game just feels like trash now

[stable moon]

wtf is medium attribution

[drifting pawn]

bug: sometimes when queing for a match with a party, the message at the top says the wrong game mode for the type of game you're searching for

[craggy tree]

Ur crazy why shouldn’t they, all the devs have to do is make it so you match make with mnk players.

[finite dew]

heavy is so shit now, actually made the game so bad

[strong lark]

na

[thick turtle]

Yea the new patch just made Medium being the best class even worse
Nerf the Bloody FCAR

[worthy quarry]

how so

[cloud jungle]

REWORK RECON

[rustic scarab]

CROSSPLAY QUEUEING IS FUCKING BROKEN WHO CAN FIX THIS

[limpid elbow]

agree x100

[placid valley]

Buff Fcar, you don't understand the game. Who told you to play other two shit classes

[last bison]

Please bring back different enemy colors. This makes it so you have to strategicly think about who you want to have the cash so the game goes longer.

[sick osprey]

i cant believe mediums were not touched with any nerfs, the recon nerf was not enough and at this time the meduim reigns so supreme it is not woirth playing any other class, and to nerf tyhe lights that are alreadfy unplayable was madness

[delicate topaz]

WE WANT MNK ON CONSOLES, YOU GUYS ALREADY TOOK AA AWAY WTF GAME IS GOING DOWNHILL FAST…

[candid flame]

on god

[quick coyote]

Embark devs need to play the game.

[spiral merlin]

WHO IS THIS WE !!!!! BRING BACK MNK JUST PUT US IN PC LOBBYS

[hard ether]

No changes to directional audio in this patch?

[storm bramble]

And are you planning on a third person mode And maybe a Double jump for Heavy's That would make it even better

[honest musk]

anyone have a solution to error code TFMR0100?

[frank nymph]

Should remove cross play entirely. I can't be the only one sick of the constant pc vs console bullshit that's happening in chat.

Also no AA for pc thanks. Could care less about consoles. They have their own lobbies.

[sharp belfry]

Seriously, nuke was the only saving grace

[tulip nimbus]

been all day