💣┇weapons-gadgets

[agile willow]

"@CabbageBoii that is literally what I said.
Finding cover right next to you is running? peaking different angles is "running"?
Crouching to cover when you engage someone is not always "running" to that spot. You obv meant running away so stop trying to play smart "

this is what i meant to say but didnt type out because long

[honest willow]

Bro im literally saying that you are not saying effective range. Obviously the 1887 is not going to outperform the AKM and FCAR at high range, but you're leaving that out bc they have the "same range"

[agile willow]

they do, they're both hitscan. you can technically hit someone crossmap with both guns

[honest willow]

buddy. I said they do. They do not have the same effective range. You literally responded this. And I said the same thing.

[agile willow]

that was a counter to the other person's argument that range was the problem, so i pointed out it was not

spread is the problem and dispersion, that was my point all along

combat: you are literally mentioning your own experience here and trying to use that as "evidence". You don't know the first thing about how that works then. Your playstyle is affecting the "evidence" here bc you might just be a close range player. How can you say the same for someone who plays sniper? or likes to play AKM/FCAR from a distance? LH1? This is all your personal experience that isn't "evidence" of anything, just your OPINION.

i don't see how this is really relevant to the argument about 1887's, clarify for me

[honest willow]

^ I'm not even here to argue about 1887

bc Im not here to argue about the 1887. If you read the very first message you would know that

[agile willow]

technically by your logic it is factual because it is based on my experience, the way you argue that your experience and the other person's experience is valid as well

my point about experience was that they main light, have hundreds of hours on light but not as a medium against mediums

[honest willow]

IDC about your convo with that dude, you directly said my experience was wrong bc it was not yours.

[agile willow]

otherwise i would be able to tell

[icy sparrow]

Finally got it figured out fully

Double blade replacement should be a heavy sword for medium which has a fast downwards slash when jumping plus more damage if u fall from high and (60 damage) wide range swings on ground plus secondary deflect bullets

[agile willow]

soo did you reach plat in under 100 hours

our experiences are different, and playing at a high level, that's my experience

saying i can't invalidate your experience because its yours doesn't make sense, i invalidate it because it doesn't match the level of experience in the game

[honest willow]

So your experience is based off ranked TA? Which hasn't been the ranked mode for more than 1 season? Instead of the mode cashout which has been ranked for 2 full seasons?

[agile willow]

nope ranked cashout s2

[honest willow]

I never mentioned my rank. How can you know what level of experience I'm at?

[agile willow]

then what is it

[honest willow]

you're not even diamond? so someone from diamond can invalidate your experience?

[agile willow]

because if it matched or exceeded mine you would've used it as an argument

sure, but i am a diamond level player, i havent gotten the opportunity to reach diamond because i joined s2 halfway done

[honest willow]

no i wouldn't bc rank doesn't automatically mean you're right.

[agile willow]

so you're a diamond?

[honest willow]

diamond s2 and emerald this season if you are wondering

[agile willow]

nice, which gun

[honest willow]

fcar, AKM, model, and Light

[agile willow]

yes but it indicates more experience

[sterile needle]

Even the best M1887 player it still can't hit full shot every times in the whole game.
If you have that skill why just play sniper?
And even the best M1887 player can do this, is every diamond play can do this?
This not the weapon is broken, it is the player is great.
The same player switch to other gun can do it well even more than use M1887

[agile willow]

no main?

[agile willow]

sniper shooting and 1887 shooting is very diff trust me, aiming down a scope changes everything, also you only need bodyshots to do half health to a medium on 1887

[honest willow]

and more experience isn't everything. For someone who values logic so much, you really aren't looking at it very logically.

[honest willow]

Mained FCAR in S2 and AKM this season, with model as secondary main

[agile willow]

pretty much the same, i'm a heavily mechanical player

[agile willow]

generally it means a lot, i would trust a doctor more than a med student

[honest willow]

How about a doctor who has 30 years of experience but consistently malpractices? vs a doctor of 10 with a perfect record

[sterile needle]

go to the range and make POV tell me who is the M1887 can make the medium half with one shot?

[agile willow]

true, i guess i can make a distinction between focused experience and experience

[agile willow]

it does 128 damage per shot, 8 pellets, 16 damage per

[honest willow]

yes the 1887 can half the med

[sterile needle]

Just go the range and stand at 20m distance and shot the medium

20 m !

[agile willow]

also a doctor with 30 years who consistently malpractices indicates a doctor whose abilities are failing, which is irrelevant to this argument

[honest willow]

He has more experience flat out.

[agile willow]

uhh no its something else, his abilities are failing

which means that you cant take that into consideration

also medicine is different over time, a med student is probably more attentive but a doctor does better practically

[honest willow]

thats my point. you are purely saying experience matters, which like I mentioned, yes it does, but it is not everything

[sterile needle]

I know It can one shot med half at close
range 20m 1 shot
say the m1887 kill med need many shot

[agile willow]

in a video game, where no one is at retirement age, it kinda does

[honest willow]

there are more factors than just gameplay time.

[honest willow]

personal skill: reaction time, hand eye coordination, other games played, game mode played, map selection, etc

[agile willow]

sure i guess, resources, talent, and what not but two people who begin a video game, regardless of background will do differently with different amounts of time spent

[honest willow]

and both will have different experiences.

[agile willow]

someone with 1000 hours will always do better than someone with 100 or 500, barring extreme outliers

[honest willow]

wrong

still wrong

[agile willow]

uhh, you down to learn squash for 100 hours and go play a pro? see how that goes

[honest willow]

someone who plays casual consistently can have 1000 hours. Vs someone who has played many FPS games and translated well to the Finals is a different case.

[agile willow]

time put effectively towards something is always the determining factor

[agile willow]

wdym casual, like casual playing fps or casual games

[honest willow]

casually playing the finals

[agile willow]

yes they will do better if they have more time

[honest willow]

what about time not well spent, as you mentioned before with the doctor

[agile willow]

it doesn't even matter if they sweat to improve, putting time into the finals means improvement

[sterile needle]

I know It can one shot med half at close
range 20m 1 shot
say the m1887 kill med need many shot
just tell me the M1997 how to against the AKM at 20M distance

[agile willow]

playing a video game and medicine are different in that you can be absent minded in medicine, its not an always active task

[agile willow]

mb i think i screwed the numbers, its more like 10m but most of my gunfights happen there, i rarely have fights 20m and beyond

[honest willow]

time not well spent gaming.. throwing, tilting, or just fkin around. doesn' t make it matter that much towards 1000 hours.

[agile willow]

uhh the finals records time in game, steam records time doing what it is you said

[sterile needle]

If the weapon only in 15m distance has huge power, is that OP?
If the melee is more powerful it and can against the M1887, dose the M1887 need to be balance ?
Not damage cause M1887 strong it is environment does

[agile willow]

but the thing is the 1887 has so much space where it is powerful and the only place where it isnt is long range

1887 also competes with melee at melee range really well

[honest willow]

all of that is in game. dude if you're not able to comprehend the simple idea that some ppl learn faster than others in a shorter period of time, im done talkin

[agile willow]

i am that idea lmfao, but those differences are small, im saying talent and no talent will be around the same if they put that time in

if i had a friend with the same experience as me start the finals when i did, he would be just as good if not better than i am right now, even if i picked it up faster

[honest willow]

talent is MORE than just having experience. you're already proving my point that experience isn't everything

[agile willow]

yes but it doesn't matter

thats what i just said

[honest willow]

yea it does

[sterile needle]

Yes I know, I'm a sword player in The finals,
I say many times it is the Environment make the M1887 better them any other close range weapon.
M1887 has no reason to nerf, and the melee need a MACHANICALLY BUFF.

[agile willow]

in the grand scheme no it doesnt, most prodigies and geniuses are people who started early

[honest willow]

so you admit that experience isn't everything?

[agile willow]

no it is everything, when did i say that, i said talent is something that happens outside of experience but it doesnt matter

[honest willow]

who likely had a lot of talent. plently of little league kids nowadays who have no skil at the sport they started at a young age

[agile willow]

how would you know who had talent and who didnt if every one didnt start early

also you missed my point, people who start early in order to get a headstart to put more time in

[honest willow]

some of them dont have talent no?

[agile willow]

most pro players probably didn't have talent when they first started, its about the time they put in

[honest willow]

and those who didn't make it pro but put in a lot of time?

[agile willow]

everyday morning to night, no other activity time?

no, other wise they would be pro

[honest willow]

Yea thats not how learning works

[agile willow]

uhh thats exactly how learning works, time. if i started spending 12 hours a day playing tennis every day and nothing else, theres a good chance i can go pro. but because i started late, i wont have enough time to gain the experience necessary to play at that skill level

it seems like you think pro players are people who put in the same amount of time as everyone else, but just happened to be talented

[honest willow]

No. I am talking about the players who try to go pro who put in tons of time and still dont make it.

you do realize it takes more work for some ppl to get somewhere than it does others? thats like basic shit

[agile willow]

like luck and chance, thanks for proving my point.

[honest willow]

No like talent and skill.

[agile willow]

skill comes from time

and talent doesnt matter later on, only in the beginning

[honest willow]

no thats wrong lol. you're spewing shit again

you think talent has 0 effect on ppl magically once they turn pro thats dumb shit

[agile willow]

how would you know, are you a scout or smth?? if i have two kids one is super talented and one is not, i put them in the same training regimen they both going pro if they both have enough time put in

[honest willow]

No they are not?? you are absolutely fucking delusional. There are some kids with huge talent that put in a ton of work and still can't make it in. And yes, luck and chance are again OTHER FACTORS that play a role that can manipulate experience too, so thanks for proving MY point. You are literally arguing and giving me more ammo. Just stop dude, you're embarassing

[agile willow]

you like to argue just to argue

[honest willow]

No, I like to call out bull shit like the stuff you spew and defend others when you use that BS to bully them. And I don't like having some random shit on the internet deny my experience bc he thinks he's the main character.

[agile willow]

uh huh, keep going. what's your point in all of this. i lost track already, either bring up a relevant point or dont argue

[honest willow]

You clearly can't read

[agile willow]

you keep trying to pick apart each point or rebuttal i give to a previous argument

we went from 1887 to experience to medicine??? to sports

[crimson vortex]

yall both are mental

[honest willow]

bc you clearly need real world examples when you're this delusional in videogames

[agile willow]

yes, because i find its the best resource for arguments about the real world

[reef bear]

Do your thing embark

[crystal garnet]

Winch over nerfed. Please make it back to at least 15m

[crystal garnet]

@covert parcel Winch wasnt the problem. The heavies CQB weapons are incredibly powerful. Make the winch harder to land hits on, create a delay between pull and when you can attack, increase cooldown. Range nerf was not it

[covert parcel]

exactly

im getting roadhog ptsd, theyre copying the same balance chnages as overwatch yet not realizing its NOT working

the issue wasnt the distance, is was teh windup / victim pull speed / victim length from user

its a fine ability if it requires 2 people to capitalize correctly on

[white thistle]

overwatch is dead

[boreal laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-first-firsttry-batman-legobatman-gif-21703761

Every TK player ever

[covert parcel]

player count + views + blizzard funding

[fading frost]

We need this 😍

[cunning kettle]

oh man another rifle with a 30rd mag and easy to control recoil. i wonder where ive seen that already

[inland karma]

any suggestion for medium loadouts?

[cunning kettle]

demat, dual blades, goo, zip, defib

[inland karma]

is this more like offensive loadout?

[cunning kettle]

yea

[inland karma]

is it demat is meta now

i just came back to play this game since season 0

[cunning kettle]

no

[inland karma]

ok ty

[cunning kettle]

heal beam is always meta

[inland karma]

so i took heal beam, ak, jump pad, defib, pryro u think it's ok? i feel like turret this patch take down so easy and the activate time longer i assume?

[cunning kettle]

pyro is eh imo. i would rather use gas or frags

[inland karma]

more impactful for the frag or gas?

[novel glen]

frags goated... they dont hurt your team and u can throw them right through them.. and you get 2

and they deal way more damage

[vale obsidian]

gas is so situational, and when you need it there's plenty of gas barrel laying around

go frag so much more useful and always useful in every situation

you can even nade trapping with it
(last 2 insane)

[inland karma]

ohhh thanks every opinions here

[cunning kettle]

wait what are your movement keybinds

[vale obsidian]

you guys use WASD but i use ESDF

[cunning kettle]

why are pyros on w

[inland karma]

oh damn that's new to me

[cunning kettle]

makes sense ig, i just cannot use anything aside from wasd or else im gonna be holding side strafe trying to back up

[vale obsidian]

just move your keybord one key distent to the left (same thing with no downside)

btw ESDF give me more button i need in other game like quake

[cunning kettle]

its also better for 100% keyboards since you get more mouse real estate

[inland karma]

all these are sick clip btw if i have enough space for mnk i would be mnk player now im just move to roller cuz not much space for me rn

[vale obsidian]

whats mnk?

[cunning kettle]

rat and clicky board

[vale obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/the-nightmare-before-christmas-jack-gif-21147917

[cunning kettle]

mouse and keyboard

[vale obsidian]

ah ok

[eager wasp]

one-sided key plank

[ionic stump]

dont get in close range of the heavy

[plucky spade]

A perfect counter to winch is jump pad between you and the heavy, walls and obstacles dont work. It's the only way you can disrupt the ability after getting grabbed.

[vale obsidian]

Original massage was deleted

what happen?

[cunning kettle]

Someone yapping about winch or smth

[burnt canyon]

How would we feel if heal beam only healed if a player was out of combat for like 1.5 or 2 seconds instead of muscling through fights? Or some sort of gadget that could shut healing down like the tracking dart turned poison dart*

[icy sparrow]

We need a flare gun gadget(light) so bad that’s sticks to enemies or walls. It’s low damage but it long term so it help for enemy player to avoid pursuing and heal Lol it’s also bright and colourful sparks to show enemy location when it stick and leaves a spark trail on the map
Give sonar back to medium

[royal pier]

I'm becoming more of a fan of this idea floating around: Make certain gadgets/weapons do percentage based damage instead of flat damage.

For example, standing in gas/fire would kill all classes in the same amount of time. This buffs Light, and slightly nerfs Heavy. This would also make flamethrower more effective against other Heavies.

As for explosives, it would be a way to make RPG less devastating, while still strong. Maybe make it do a flat 25% to start. It would also help out the CL-40/MGL32 against Heavies.

[bronze spade]

heavy has already been nerfed

[vivid spruce]

Heavies had it the worst. RPG shouldn’t be touched anymore imo. Glad they fixed it from instant light player deletion

[boreal laurel]

This 👆

[royal pier]

It would be an opportunity to buff their other weapons.

[vale obsidian]

heavy balancing is such a mess

nerf op gatgid AND ONLY OP GATGID
and buff gun

[vivid spruce]

I have only really played heavy since the games launch and I feel most of the weapons are ok in their current state. Gadgets I feel a little different about

If RPG gets a damage slash it is going to have to be well compensated by a damage buff to heavy weapons. Most (not all) heavy weapons are low DPS

[rough carbon]

As someone who lights often I think rpg is fine and doesn't require more nerfs

[vivid spruce]

Yeah, I think it’s in a good state. I would just leave heavy weapons alone. But any gadget alterations must be considered

[covert parcel]

HHM isnt oppressive, double rpg isnt oppressive

yall crazy

[vivid spruce]

Can a heavy survive 2 direct RPG hits?

[rough carbon]

That's situational isn't it? Don't come across it too often

At this point we're going to see forced role queues or diminishing returns for class stacking

[vivid spruce]

Quite possibly

I’m wonder how the new winch claw distance nerf plays now. Is it still viable for closing gaps?

[covert parcel]

do you play world tour at all

its play heavy or lose

[rough carbon]

Sparingly, Mostly TA

[covert parcel]

its literally
Mesh / Winch-Charge / Heal beam

mesh closes the gap, winch gets a free kill, healbeam cleans up before the 2 enemies can refrag

[vivid spruce]

I use it often to finish off players I’ve already set on fire with the flame thrower

[covert parcel]

ohh you play erminal i see, yeah i was talking about WT

[vivid spruce]

I want a flare gun so I can complete my pyro build

[rough carbon]

That's fair my bad

[covert parcel]

nah ur good, light sniper is so annoying i refuse to play that mode until it gets fixed lol

[rough carbon]

I see the lights holding the flare gun

[vivid spruce]

Like a spotting tool Yh

Heavy has the motion sensor

[rough carbon]

I need more things to pair with sword for longer ranged picks and finishers after lunges

I'm fond of doing damage with the tracking dart, the thermal bore feels lacking

[vivid spruce]

I would like to see, possibly, a medium hip fire weapon like a Tommy gun

[rough carbon]

Tommy just feels like an appropriate pick for med

[vivid spruce]

Yeah I’d agree with that

[rough carbon]

Maybe a Bo staff for med or heavy that they could pole vault a higher jump with

As a light who likes mobility I believe everyone should have an iota of movement

[vivid spruce]

Bowling ball for heavy class

[rough carbon]

Give heavies a doomfist gauntlet

Horizontal movement for the big guys lol

[vivid spruce]

Pair of boxing gloves would be funny LMAO

[covert parcel]

pole vault heavy YES

[vivid spruce]

Pole vault into a charge n slam

[royal pier]

I'd probably just do a cooldown reduction and remove the bloom.

[vivid spruce]

Bloom?

I would be careful with RPG cooldown. Last thing needed is a bunch of rockets flying round all the time 😂

[rough carbon]

I'd like to see a cooldown reduction on the dome if they're gonna make it weaker

[polar willow]

Dome is fine as it is, Heavy is supposed to be a destroyer, not an unstoppable destroyer

[agile willow]

what is the sledge range

[icy sparrow]

Help me get heavy sword for medium

[rough carbon]

I really want a sword in the stone skin for the sledge where the hammer head is a huge chunk of rock

[icy sparrow]

Double blade replacement should be a heavy sword for medium which has a fast downwards slash when jumping plus more damage if u fall from high and (60 damage) wide range swings on ground plus secondary deflect bullets

[rough carbon]

Give the med swords a dash and I'm sold

And maybe the riot shield a longer slide with boogie board animation

Imagine that being a sledge

You get to retain the properties of a hammer plus the benefit of a cool looking sword

[hallow current]

I still want brass knuckles for heavies in the game. I don't care. It would be the most fun and the funniest thing ever to have brass knuckels in a shooter game be a meta option

I keep imagining all the clips of people turning just to see a Heavy clocking back a punch and pausing the screen. Hilarious 🤌🏾

[shut bane]

I know people have suggested an anti materiel rifle for heavies but I wonder how that’d work, obviously slow as hell but how would it interact with the environment

[burnt canyon]

Could create a pinhole through walls smaller than the ksg

[shut bane]

Mayhaps, maybe penetrating the wall would be pretty cool as well, im thinking the bullet travel time is slow and has a bullet drop after a bit to compensate for the big damage

[hallow current]

Probably pierces through a layer of environment before the "bullet" gets destroyed.

This sounds more like a specialization? If not then a gadget

[jade violet]

guys do u think the grapple is great

I already cant say how useful is this shit thing

my style is raider,and the grapple could make me really easily to raid enemy players

[pearl spear]

Possible idea for the medium. Get an M1 Garand that is medium to long range, but has a bayonet on the end for very close range situations. It could have 5-6 bullets in a clip but won’t shoot as fast as the LH1. It will have similar iron sights to the LH1 or M60. The most important thing though is that the crispy reload sound is included for every reload. Follow it up with WW 2 based cosmetics and an American WW2 grenade for accuracy rather than the German stick grenade.

[jade violet]

my light class equipment style is grapple,M11,thermal launcher,frag and sonar grenade
guys if u like the raid style, you can try this,its awesome....

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall2-gif-13494059

its like playing titanfall

[fading frost]

Titan fall was such a dope game! 💯

[pearl hollow]

Why m11

I use the other SMG and that's my exact load out and I can confirm, it is truly a Titanfall

Anyways, new bundle for 650 multibucks; Pro juice energy

Smoke grenade legendary skin; Ospuze can

New sticker: Every Last Drop (Ospuze can tilted, pouring out Ospuze liquid)

New charm: Quick hit
Ospuze can
When you quick melee with the weapon that has that charm out, you can hear it sloshing around

[lucid barn]

Buff some recoil on FCAR and Lewis

[bitter surge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/oCOT3pcdti 🤔🤔

[hallow current]

I would like them to add another element to the game to add more interactions.

Water or ice would be cool. Water barrels would be hard to add tho...

If we get a futuristic theme next season, Lazer weapons would be cool.
Maybe rail gun for the heavy
-Charge up
-Single shot
-Big damage
-Hitscan

[worldly tide]

guys can yall suggest a good build for a starter, im level 10

[north flint]

1887 needs a buff

[north flint]

They should add proper bullet mechanics before those like if I shoot someone with a sniper and his teammate is behind him he should also take damage

[shell sonnet]

As light you could use grapple with xp-54 and grenades
Just stay away and try to laser some people and get in chip damage
Dash is also really good, but you need to get closer and play more around cover

On medium all weapons are decent (except for melee and cl-40, though they still have their uses)
Id just go for akm since its deep mag makes it less punishing
(Also, try to go into the practise range and look at the recoil, then move your crosshair exactly opposit while shooting for better accuracy, works on all guns)
Team support gadgets are really good, since even if you might not make the best use out of them, your teammates still can
Movement items are awesome
And explosive mines are good to get to know the destruction gimmik a bit better

On heavy, winch claw with pretty much all non-automatic weapons is dead easy
Rpg is often a fight won for free
Some protection with goo, barricades or dome shield is not to be underestimated

Most importantly, just try a few different things and see whats fun
The rest will come naturally

Maybe you can even find some people willing to teach you in the lfg channel

[plain wasp]

There's already an ospuze can charm

[pearl hollow]

oh really? nice

[plain wasp]

There's a spray too

[mystic dove]

If they add bullet penetration then they better increase falloff damage. Can't buff the sniper!

[north flint]

All weapons have falloff damage

[mystic dove]

uhh yeah, and the sniper needs more of the falloff and less of the damage

your 2nd person should only take damage in close range, after 75m the person behind should take like 10

[vernal raft]

Aren’t the throwing knives fire rate slow enough already.

[pure pine]

Nerf heavys the dome shield is broken all the guns are amazing and charge is annoying as hell

[dim onyx]

tks are busted. thank you embark for only acknowledging it and doing nothing about it. all after you've been buffing ot for 0 reason

[brisk niche]

does anyone know very good builds for starters and a good class reccomendation

[low bobcat]

use medium. Heal, AKM, Jump pad, goo grenade, and defib

[low bobcat]

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[hardy dust]

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[low bobcat]

thank

[boreal laurel]

My go-to builds are:

• Light: XP-54, grapple, frags, breach charge, goo grenade
• Medium: FAMAS (AK is easier though), jump pad, glitch or exp. mine, defibs
• Heavy: flamethrower, charge or goo gun, goo grenade (or barricades), RPG, mines (either one)

[soft flower]

Wtf ur lag might be helping you 💀

[low bobcat]

why the lag helping you 😭

[inland breach]

Maybe l should go back to xFinity

[vale obsidian]

when that lag make your hitscan gun trun into a projectile lmao

playing at 300 ping or horrible sever would be more fun if the movement isn't sever sided

[jade violet]

XP54?Like C.A.R SMG in titanfall?yeah buddy🤓

M11 feels like R-97 in titanfall I think

high rpm low damage

[plucky spade]

Plain fists fuck it, we brawling it around here

[heavy pagoda]

use sledgehammer + winch claw(works well in Monaco or skyway stadium)

[north flint]

How😂😂
I just got used to it

[north flint]

How is it helping 😭

[north flint]

The 2nd kill was crazy right?

Hit that guy midair while he was dashing😆

[north flint]

I'm in south africa my ping is above 200 I think

[lucid barn]

BRING BACK NUKES

[vale obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-avalon-play-avalon-gif-24241051

[plush scaffold]

what is the best weapon for light?

[vale obsidian]

people use xp-54 because its the best "all rounder" weapon
but every other gun are as if not better in their own way
(except that burst pistol, fck that gun)

[upper sinew]

what if there wer diffrent spray parden for certan wappons tied to grip change as an ulockble with the curency we can only have 3000 of (maby full auto wappons only, shotgun not includet)

silincer for wappons in trade of for damge (fix stat, changin tk valiu to 1-3 bullets more)

[vale obsidian]

i want this sight to be an unlockable
(1,000-10,000 kills on gun)

[upper sinew]

yea unlockable (what im saying)

[upper sinew]

beside a handy cap isnt an advatage

[vale obsidian]

or we can unlock it by using that credit that we always have at 3000 🤔

[upper sinew]

.

[vale obsidian]

i was in a game
i couldn't read

[upper sinew]

maby im just to curous wha sound desing whold be use for the current wappons that re sylenced in a non sylanced way and oposide fo all other gunns

dont know if its a bad thng to be less able to hear a sniper tho

[vale obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-major-spelling-mistake-spelling-mistake-gif-25140477

[upper sinew]

(currently at bank it)

we won

[fleet brook]

Disagree but give heavy 2 C4 charges back

[upper sinew]

V9S got me thinking about it

[bright atlas]

i disagree

[rough carbon]

How about contributing to the conversation? Being a spambot doesn't get you far here.

[slim creek]

i was told all i needed was 35 messages, i don't really feel like messaging right now i'd rather get it done with

so im doing that

[gusty idol]

What is up with the RPG? I shot directly at two opponents right in my face and only did damage to myself.

[vale obsidian]

here i purpose an idea to nerf medium shotty
instant of the pallet being a + with 4 corner of a square like this
. .
+
. .

it be like this instead
. . .
. . .
. . .

actually no, now that i think about it i don't want the game to be dumb down even more

pls don't do this embark

[low mural]

Some pls gjve me a build for heavy defence a d offensive play

[shut bane]

Ok so what if we gave heavies a desert eagle for their primary

Actually it wouldn’t be much better than a revolver would it

[soft juniper]

Wanted to run this idea over here
What if Defib was combined with Healbeam so your left click would heal people like normal and your right click would activate a Defib ability so revive

(I say this partly because I don’t see much use for a Defib if your not running healbeam)

That’s kinda my problem Defib feels like it’s an always gadget + a movement gadget so there is only space for 1 free choice

If healbeam and Defib where combined it would at least give fun verity to medium builds

With light the “Must gadget” is a Taser and I see Taser as a Crutch

For heavy’s the “much gadget” is RPG but that one’s not as bad

[upper sinew]

(i, dont; know)

[late idol]

taser is pretty good with invis

[ornate schooner]

Nahhhhh, reeeaaallllyyyy

[hallow current]

The fun part about the finals is trying things out and finding what play style is best for you

Not trying to find the best build starting off.

[hallow current]

Stun, invis, xp-54 is pretty annoying ngl...

I play light so I just run away when I can but sometimes I'm just ruined

[soft juniper]

Taser cooldown is very shot from what I have seen and tested

And I see every L who uses it they just wip it out and use it as much as a H uses the RPG

[hallow current]

Imo the tazer reload rate is in a good spot, I think the way it effects players needs to be tested some more though... It feels like a sure kill just a bit too much.

Maybe stunned players should have 10% more movement or something idk

It's very good for stopping cashouts or taking cash boxes from ppl...

[hallow current]

I do like the fact that the light class has the stun gun as readily available as an RPG.

I don't think any heavy class will play without their RPG

[soft juniper]

Maybe if a stun enemy is damaged it gets removed

It would kind of make people rethink about stunning and then damaging them

Or if you increase the cooldown of it it would make them use the Taser more sparingly

[noble minnow]

i dont think there'd be a point to stunningif you cant damage someone

[shut bane]

ok get this, replace cloak with phase shift next season

[hallow current]

Basically turn gateway into a specialization?

[cunning kettle]

what did 93r do to you 😭

[cunning kettle]

get distance and elevation

[shut bane]

nah nah nah, phase shift as in limited invulnerability without being able to see or damage enemies

turn invisible in the eyes of the enemy team for that duration

[cunning kettle]

we do not need a panic button for lights 😭

[shut bane]

you mean dash and cloak isnt a panic button

personally id prefer a defensive escape method that also provides lights with some survivability benefits over whatever cloak is now, similar to what they did for recon senses where they turned the offensive ability into a smarter specialization

[cunning kettle]

cloak gets fucked up in the middle of a fight and they still have to dash to cover

giving the low hp class an invulnerability spec is kinda fucked up for everyone fighting them

[shut bane]

not if they/you cant damage you/them during the duration of the spec

its primarily an escape route but with a few changes to vfx it can be made to let others track them with few hints if the situation isnt too hectic

[cunning kettle]

what if you leave a light at 2 hp because you are using v9s and then they fucking turn invincible and run away so all your damage is gone in 8 seconds

[shut bane]

give the ability a wind up window why not

even if just 0.5 seconds, it wont be instantaneous invulnerability

[cunning kettle]

honestly a charge time would be great

[hallow current]

Then I reappear in the middle of a gunfight by accident because I can't see my enemies and I die instantly or get lucky and get away.

[cunning kettle]

do you not have headphones

guns make sounds if you didnt know

[hallow current]

It's still up to chance even if I have headphones.

Or do you have perfect echolocation?

I wouldn't be able to do it.

Or will this ability give audio cues for enemies camping around corners too?

[shut bane]

have hints on both ends, sounds would be a good indicator when in the other dimention

its a lot of work to be fair, but I think itd be a smart way to reinvent invisibility even if ripped straight from tf2

[cunning kettle]

You must have problems with your ears if you can’t hear the direction where gunshots are coming from

[shut bane]

call the ability "lag switch"

[cunning kettle]

I already have that 🗿

(My internet is just crap sometimes)

[hallow current]

I personally don't like some combos in the game but that's honestly only because they just put me into a 30 second respawn screen.

If they lowered the respawn time I would not be upset.

Therefore

I think this game is well overdue for a casual game mode with little or no respawn times. Just shoot us back into the action.

Let the hardcore mode be where the rewards are worked for like now. But let us be able to turn off our brains and play a death match mode or something like HardPoint where we can just play a simple objective and still prioritize kills...

Cashout is nice but it gets intense and you end up loosing and get mad.

I fr want them to add new modes for us to play and vote on. Damn.

[cunning kettle]

#👂┇game-feedback

[hallow current]

Your right buddy. I'm a few steps away from being deaf

[hallow current]

I'm just venting

[cunning kettle]

Then I don’t know what your point is

[hallow current]

Yeah

[sharp stratus]

I have one request that I really think should be strongly considered.

The final 2 level skins for the AKM (pink camo and black cheetah print) need to have the iron sights REDONE with a clean PAINTED finish similar to the level before it (level 6 is polished and looks much nicer).

The unpolished look makes the higher level skins (7 and 8) less desirable to actually use. Please fix this cosmetic.

[soft juniper]

Then increase the cooldown because personally I think it’s kinda sad to see lights use a taser to have to get a single kill

[shell sonnet]

Stopping steals and making someone drop the cashbox are incredibly powerful

It doesnt always come up, but when it does it can save whole matches

Running it would be high risk high reward

But currently it allows for easy hits, makes specifically sh1900 way stronger and turns melee users into free kills

It feels bad to face and doesnt need it that badly

[raven finch]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> LFG CHANNELS

Europe: #lfg-eu-casual • #lfg-eu-ranked

North America: #lfg-na-casual • #lfg-na-ranked

Asia: #lfg-asia-casual • #lfg-asia-ranked

Oceania: #lfg-oce-casual • #lfg-oce-ranked

South America: #lfg-sa-casual • #lfg-sa-ranked

Go to id:customize to show/hide specific channels.

[plain wasp]

What's going on in here gang

[deep badge]

nothing

[plain wasp]

Sounds suspicious

[dusk basin]

The Riot Shield:

** {Bugs with the Riot Shield:}** FIX A.S.A.P

(1). If the shield is hit by a pyro grenade it gets lit on fire like a wall and the only way to survive is to get healed or run in smoke but medium has no smoke grenade. Your teammates can even kill you with this to troll. It also covers your screen in fire making it really hard to see.

(2). Sometimes when you pickup an carriable item your shield will cover your screen for no reason.

(3). Projectiles get stuck in shield and make it hard to see parts of the screen.

(4). Cant use communication wheel when blocking

(5). Sometimes when you inspect the riot shield it does the default animation and you have to swap items to fix it.

{Problems with the Riot Shield:}

(1). It's hard to tell exactly where you're shield covers your body.

(2). Melees are able to pretty much goes strait through shield

(3). Heavy's can kill you easily with charge slam, winch claw and sledge hammer. There is no counter to fighting this all you can do is run till your team shows up.

(4). Constant loud noise that makes it hard to hear footsteps.

** {Suggestions for the Riot Shield:} **

(1). Add support score for blocking bullets with riot shield.

(2). Reduce damage and knockback of charge slam while blocking.

(3). The winch claw should not go strait through the shield.

(4). Reduce the sound the riot shield makes.

(5). Add a parry to the riot shield so that you can block melee attacks or if some one hits a shield while blocking it cancel's the enemy melee animation or knocks them back.

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-finals-the-finals-riot-the-finals-riot-shield-riot-gif-13514886661754554843

[north flint]

Sniper needs a buff it should 1 headshot anyone

[bright atlas]

I agree, but not for heavy

[north flint]

I agree heavy needs atleast 1 headshot and a melee

Just imagine how insane this clip was gonna be with the quick scope headshot from so far away

[bright atlas]

yeah, but it also could be unfair so i wonder

[hardy dust]

1 shot headshot is not fun

Although having it able to headshot + bodyshot a heavy would be fine

[viral ivy]

.

[north flint]

Yea but being up close and personal with a sniper isn't fun also

[north flint]

Make the revolver one headshot lights also and shotguns Deal headshot damage then it's balanced

[hardy dust]

While I do think quickscope sniper should be the primary form of gameplay for sniper, 1 shots are not fun and too powerful

[hardy dust]

That's a horrid idea.

Both weapons are designed to not 1 shot for a reason

[north flint]

1 shot headshot is fair coz it isn't easy getting a headshot so it should be more rewarding

[north flint]

And what's the reason

[hardy dust]

No its not. Getting 1 shot is almost never fair. While hitting a headshot is hard, when people are actually good at it it's way too oppressive and unfun

[north flint]

Doing this 1 headshot melee thing isn't fun

[bright atlas]

idk about that lol

[hardy dust]

Its not fun. It throws balance out the window

[north flint]

Shotguns can't do anything from long range so why not make the op from close range like sword and hammer

[hardy dust]

That's fine cuz you have to be in point blank and hit both the shot and qm

[north flint]

What's wrong with the idea

[hardy dust]

They're already better than melees up close

[north flint]

And it isn't gonna happen all the time I only done this twice out of my 1000 hours of playtime

[hardy dust]

I've done it a ton and I don't play sniper that often

[north flint]

You probably haven't bumped into a hammer main and sword main

[north flint]

Proof?

[hardy dust]

I am a sword/hammer main. They are worse up close. Hammer is strong because of destruction (winch is stupid) and sword is good cuz of movement

[north flint]

With your shotgun you not doing anything to a melee user in a closed environment because they could kill you faster

[hardy dust]

No they can't

[north flint]

That's telling me you not a good hammer and sword main

Try using a shotgun on melee users and tell me how that goes

[hardy dust]

I don't think you know how the game works

[north flint]

Whats that supposed to mean💀

[hardy dust]

You have no clue on balancing and gameplay

Sword ain't winning against db 💀

[north flint]

Balance is making guns like their real life counterparts

[hardy dust]

💀

Go play tarkov or smth

[north flint]

Shotgun bad at long range op at close range sniper bad at close range op from long range

[north flint]

Idek what that is

[hardy dust]

This has to be bait

[north flint]

Did I say something wrong because in the real world guns already have flaws that other guns don't have and those guns don't have flaws of other guns so why make them all equal

[hardy dust]

Okay why shouldn't everything 1shot

[north flint]

Weak ah reply

[hardy dust]

Also shotguns do well way more than up close

[north flint]

Because ak47 is a continuous damaging weapon with a high fire rate good from close to medium range shotgun slow fire rate good for close combat situations and sniper also has a slow fire rate so do the math

[north flint]

So you winning a fight against a sniper from long range with a shotgun?

[fleet brook]

Depends hammer is decent cuz of destruction if it didn't have it it'd be the worst heavy weapon

Also winch got nerfed (in a bad way) so complaining after it lost a chunk of range is weird

[hardy dust]

winch is still 12m free kill

[fleet brook]

That's my issuy

[hardy dust]

maybe, then it would probably be a slightly worse spear

[fleet brook]

It sucks at objective play

[fleet brook]

I mean heavy melee kinda sucks again anyone who isn't another heavy if they start 3 steps Infront of you

[hardy dust]

yeah

spear is just bad

[fleet brook]

Without winch gap closing is kinda impossible in this game because speed differences and lights (not complaining) seven movement tools

[gusty idol]

Thanks

[fleet brook]

The issue with winch is without it heavy melee will just get worse over time the more movement stuff they add or maps with tons of verticality and different levels play

With winch if the range is anything less than 10m it's useless

More and it's cheesy

[hardy dust]

sledge was more or less "fine" as a niche pick before s3

[fleet brook]

But also I hate how they only balanced winch with people using it on people in mind because now it sucks for objectives

[hardy dust]

and googun is a balanced way to close the gap

[fleet brook]

That's when people used to get stuck in it and personally I've always found it clunky

[fleet brook]

Tbf heavy literally could freeze you in place with 2-3 well timed shots

[fleet brook]

Also they added a ton of very open maps

[hardy dust]

yeah, but googun takes skill and isnt an end all be all

[fleet brook]

Tbf if the light was good there was no catching a light with melee post goo change

And they could stun gun you to just free get away

[hardy dust]

stun just screws over melee in general

[manic fjord]

is this fixed??https://youtu.be/c4MzvjEhPRU?si=akjlTrAE8SJmuyq6

[fleet brook]

Medium was the only class really in danger of a Melee heavy and that's if you're positioned poorly and A gun heavy could just C and H away from you and stuff you full of lead

It also seems the team is favoring open maps or long corridor maps with small engagement areas

So like somewhere something was gonna have to budge

Because overtime melee heavy just got slowly worse and then got mega buffed by adding winch and I have a feeling it's gonna get slowly worse again

[fleet brook]

I mean yeah but the skill for trade on goo gun kinda ain't worth it it shoots oddly and there's tons of fire in the game now and it no longer freezes people

[hardy dust]

still very viable

[sand monolith]

@grand hearth im not sure you understand how the post death damage counter works

all that shows is that a guy with sword killed you

not the amount of time it took or anything else

[grand hearth]

and it shows that the damage dealt was more than my max health
whats ur point

[sand monolith]

yes, that is required to happen in order to kill you. what is your point?

[grand hearth]

the max amount of damage to kill a player should be their max health why would it need to go over that threshold

[sand monolith]

if i have a weapon that deals 140 damage. and i hit a light with it twice, it will show up as 280 on their post death damage counter

thats just how the counter works. it doesnt stop at your max hp

[grand hearth]

😔 no wonder this game fell off got people like this in its community

[sand monolith]

heavy players trying to do basic math challenge

(impossible task)

[grand hearth]

light players trying to fathom the fact their weapons are broken (impossible challenge)

[sand monolith]

guys... he hit me multiple times totaling 354 damage... why did it show 354 damage........................

a mystery maybe unsolvable by the minds of our time......

[grand hearth]

🤗 u do u man im not gonna argue with a light player

[sand monolith]

heavy players never cease to amaze me

im a medium main through and through

i do hope you know this is their post we are talking about

heavy player dies to sword

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-edit-montage-politics-gif-12064253819728316021

[agile willow]

idk, i just had an average sword user drop 24 on a M-dominated lobby. the combination of dash with sword's dash secondary attack allows lights to become unhittable because they fly across screens faster than people can track. if the person getting attacked runs, then light easily catches up with sword dash or just dash or just light base speed, if they stay and shoot, they are a stationary free kill for the light, who does 140 during any point of the dash, and can easily finish off with 1-2 more swings.

[sand monolith]

just use verticality

[plain wasp]

Don't get hit

[sand monolith]

like genuinely sword is so easy to avoid. and the model1887 shits on it

[plain wasp]

Every weapon kinda kills light super fast

[sand monolith]

also yes i feel like a light using a weapon focused on burst damage should rightfully thrive in a lobby full of the support class

thats kind of on the enemy teams for not playing to the strengths of their team comps

[plain wasp]

Also using sword means I am forced to use nades to break mines

I have no other way to break mines

[sand monolith]

also glitch trap counters the entirety of sword

[plain wasp]

Yeah if I dash into a glitch trap I am not surviving

[agile willow]

no mobility gadgets which is probably a bad choice as m, but idk im still adjusting

[sand monolith]

just use verticality to your advantage. stay on top of things like the weird generators and any small height advantage you can get

they just wont be able to kill you and will have to wait for you to come down

[agile willow]

that's not always realistic, cashouts are sometimes inside and fights are often forced

if i could i would, also they can just look up to move the hitbox

also dash, which they can just use after a jump

[sand monolith]

dash doesnt really go upwards and the hitbox wont go through a prop

[agile willow]

if they are looking up after a dash it dashes up

[sand monolith]

very slightly yes. not really a lot

[sinful dagger]

Even if you understood how games can be created as well as 2nd grade math, it doesn't make light OP? Heavy killing another heavy can result in similar numbers.

[sand monolith]

believe it or not, killing a heavy will almost always result in dealing more than 350 damage because the chances that the stream of damage ends on 350 exactly is very low

[agile willow]

no actually, it carries you forward, but if you look up, forward is up

[sand monolith]

no it does not. or else you would be able to dash directly upwards which you can not do

dash would be much better if it could though

it used to do that in the first closed beta

[grand hearth]

not gonna argue with more people lil bro ur late

[agile willow]

no like diagonally up

that carries you up

[sand monolith]

yes you can go very slightly upwards diagonally but its not a lot

[sinful dagger]

Because you know you messed up and it hurt the ego?

[agile willow]

its enough to reach on top of whatever box or small obstacle

[sinful dagger]

🤷‍♂️

[grand hearth]

bc i get all the lights r baiting and its not worth my time

[agile willow]

its not a jump i know, but from my time playing light you can make higher jumps by jumping first and dashing up to reach a ledge

[sand monolith]

me when i dont understand basic math and someone points it out (its bait)

[sinful dagger]

I'm not baiting I'm just trying to show you how health caps and damage doesn't have to?

[grand hearth]

😔 yall fr dont have anything better to do than argue on discord?

[sinful dagger]

Good point, I was wrong

[plain wasp]

Arguingggg?? No we're just telling you you're wrong and you can't accept ittt

[sand monolith]

me when i post my opinion to a public server and get public responses

[sinful dagger]

He's too busy being ignorant and close minded to learn something I guess

[sand monolith]

i think he realized he was wrong a while ago and has just been baiting since then but its fun to entertain

[modern mantle]

What if there were a weapon pack for all the melee weapons that make them look like Ice? 🤔

[plain wasp]

I want icicle Dagger and long icicle sword

[fleet brook]

Depends what for

[cunning kettle]

hamer except big ice chunk on the end

[timid sandal]

Did they increase the recoil for lmgs I feel like both the Lewis and m60 bucks like crazy now

[cunning kettle]

Lewis got gutted with the recoil change, m60 starts high but gets really weak recoil after a few shots

[timid sandal]

Too bad the sight for m60 is garbage imo

[cunning kettle]

We need the anti-air irons for m60 frfr

[timid sandal]

what other gun could they even give heavy

[vale obsidian]

deagle

[cunning kettle]

Deagle carbine

[timid sandal]

everyone’s saying deagle even me earlier lol

[cunning kettle]

Deagle but .50 bmg

[vale obsidian]

deagle but fire 50cal

wrist breaker 9000

[cunning kettle]

Deagle but 20x110

[shut bane]

Some thing with 50 in it

[cunning kettle]

Ok but 20x110 is the size of a beer bottle

[vale obsidian]

now THIS Is a hand cannon

[next root]

Pool Cue Spear Skin?

[cunning kettle]

They need to add that

[next root]

With each ball as a Chain for 75 Multibucks each

or whatever that little thing tht dangles off your weapon

[cunning kettle]

Pool ball charm

Pool cue skin

[vale obsidian]

whats pool cue?

[cunning kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/smiley-billiards-pool-tongue-out-cue-ball-gif-16435331

[vale obsidian]

oh

[next root]

Chop Sticks Dagger?

[vale obsidian]

i was thinking pool noodle lmao

[cunning kettle]

Throwing knives since they are a pair

[next root]

Dual live fish for Knives

you just throw fish

Metal Pipe for Hammer

[cunning kettle]

Metal pipe and trash can lid for riot shield

[next root]

What ype of trash can lid?

Metal or plastic?

like those circle metal lids?

[cunning kettle]

Yes that

[next root]

Would light sabers be copyright?

[cunning kettle]

Yea but energy blades aren’t

[next root]

They should add dual weilding Desert eagles for the heavy

[cunning kettle]

20x110mm rounds fired out of this bad boy

[next root]

Hand gun for the pistol (L), like you shoot out of your hands

Beer Bottles for either Dagger, or throwing knives

[cunning kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/bom-obama-finger-gun-gif-14803526

[next root]

Duck Grenades

Like a rubber duck

You squeeze and throw

Minecraft Block Gravity Cube?

Fidget Spinner Throwing Knives

and the inspect is when you can spin them , or while their mid air

.
Riot shield Pillow

with a feather stick?

[cunning kettle]

Second pillow

[next root]

tiny pillow?

[cunning kettle]

Long and tiny

[next root]

dollar bills for throwing knives

[cunning kettle]

Money stack for dagger

[next root]

yes

and one of those money guns for the pistol

https://tenor.com/view/voxtur-money-gun-shooting-money-geld-schieten-gif-8921705392965805101

[cunning kettle]

93r

[cunning kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/voxtur-money-gun-shooting-money-geld-schieten-gif-8921705392965805101

[next root]

yea

well imma sleep and wake up with ideas. Until Nextime

[cunning kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-embed-fail-epic-embed-fail-gif-21568475

[viral quartz]

what's the most underrated gadget in this game?

[cunning kettle]

Flashbang

[viral quartz]

what's the secret power of it?

[vale obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[cunning kettle]

Pretty good with melees as a light

Also can show nametags if you barely graze them in the splash radius

[vale obsidian]

also looking away form flash dosn't work half of the time for some reason

[cunning kettle]

Yea

[viral quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1269832840929869987/GIF_20240727_141517_680.gif

wait... what is this? embed fail? unnaceptable

[vale obsidian]

me snaping my own neck to dodge flash irl

[cunning kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[vale obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/out-the-window-toss-call-of-duty-gif-26200115

[viral quartz]

thank you, I deserve it

[viral quartz]

😢

[vale obsidian]

back to this ^^^^
i think how much you get flash is base on how close the flash is to you

[viral quartz]

I just use flash to annoy my teammates

if I want to bully them, flash and poison is the way

[cunning kettle]

You the type of person to test if there is friendly fire in pubg?

[vale obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/valorant-twiggy-flashbang-flash-kayo-gif-22931812

[viral quartz]

I once shot my friend in pubg because he flagged me

[cunning kettle]

“I take gun safety very seriously”

[viral quartz]

I took it as a challenge

[cunning kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/boneworks-kms-suicide-cockandballtortureisfunnyhaha-revolver-gif-19983342

https://tenor.com/view/get-rekt-boi-elmo-shot-execution-gif-15314352

[viral quartz]

[cunning kettle]

(I’m gonna get warned)

[viral quartz]

for?

[cunning kettle]

Idk man I got muted for 4 hours for saying “my balls itch”, so a gif of a revolver pointed at the camera probably will also get me punished

[viral quartz]

you are just testing the limits

living on the edge

[cunning kettle]

Gearbot better not send me another dm

[viral quartz]

i only got warned once

[cunning kettle]

Spill it

[viral quartz]

posted a gif of a woman dancing and smothering herself in baked beans.. very disturbing

[cunning kettle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1040430876263186572/1171711874836987964/D5DE626C-DB24-4961-A033-9D7EE515D219.gif?ex=655dacb8&is=654b37b8&hm=33703668c26e78cb05726ce13541fcfe795410baec31cead3cdc02e6d6e4d440&

[viral quartz]

it was when the Summer games fest was on

and when the game trailer for that Bean game came on...

everyone was screaming "beans" in discord

so anyway.. back to gadgets huh?

[cunning kettle]

nah i got physics homework that i meant to do 8 hours ago

goodbye 😔

[soft juniper]

Taser will always be a crutch gadget for lights

make taser a gadget and see what light will choose

[hardy dust]

Its only a crutch against bad players

And it is already a gadget...
If it were a spec it would be garbage

[soft juniper]

ment to say special

I just feel taser is used too much on light

Takes no skill to use brain dead gadget

They need to make the Taser more situational by increasing the cooldown making you rally choose when to use it

Because I could easily go taser, Tase my first victim and then have it ready again for my next kill

[hardy dust]

A longer cooldown would be fine, but it's not very useful for kills unless you're fighting bad players

[soft juniper]

Do you run taser?

[hardy dust]

Only on certain builds

And I hardly ever use it for kills, only for stopping steals, getting people to drop stuff and shutting down specs

[soft juniper]

That’s the thing I don’t mind people using it to stop steals it’s when players just use it for quick kills

[vale obsidian]

longer cooldown would be nice, but i also want it too lock gatgid instead of spec so its more utility then killing

[hardy dust]

I think it should get reworked into a glitch gun, so it has more util and is less annoying to fight against

It would be stronger overall, but weaker as a crutch

[soft juniper]

Agreed I would feel like a fighting chance with specials over gadgets

[vale obsidian]

i won't mind that

[soft juniper]

Have it block gadgets over specials and longer cooldown and it’s fine

[cunning kettle]

pov: you stun a heavy and they charge at you:

[vale obsidian]

keep track of who have spec noob

[soft juniper]

Or you know….dodge

Taser has range to it you don’t have to be point blank

[cunning kettle]

i just find it funny that a heavy with charge n slam can still charge when stunned

legs paralyzed but can still run faster than a sprinting light

[vale obsidian]

when that hit, you can not stop

oh it got deleted

[cunning kettle]

wat did

[vale obsidian]

a gif

[cunning kettle]

😔

[hazy spoke]

nice! got once again 234 damage from one rocket launcher as light .

[vale obsidian]

btw why is your pfp that?

[restive plover]

THE FUCKING CARDS BLOCK PROJECTILES
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1001133572981272626/1276869147711770624/MedalTVTHEFINALS20240824134121.mp4?ex=66cb188f&is=66c9c70f&hm=87c58fbc0e09692190b99ee4eda1ed48a816a6874fc63ac5520ca8335dd18235&

[vale obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-unsee-how-to-unsee-blind-homer-simpson-simpsons-gif-17613101

[torn mantle]

Are there any other valid weapons for light besides lh and xp?

[vale obsidian]

yes...
every other gun is viable

[orchid lagoon]

This is wild

[ember vapor]

frags

but, which class do u use?

Then pyro

[torn mantle]

for light the lh1 and the XP

[ember vapor]

XP-54 and if u got straight hands SH1900

Stun gun forever, gateway, and last one on ur opinion

[torn mantle]

Stun gun, gateway / invis grenade and frag grenades \

[hollow dragon]

nerf is expected soon though right ?

[ember vapor]

Cloak

[torn mantle]

Dash

[ember vapor]

For who?

[hollow dragon]

the stun gun

[torn mantle]

it already got nerfed twice, theres no expected nerf

[tacit stone]

I love how the heavy GIRL looks

[ember vapor]

Who knows. I mean, it's only need to increase a little bit cooldown

Sometimes

[vale obsidian]

it more so how are you going to use frag then was better
frag: better for spam and making people low or half
fire: great for dueling and some utility

[ember vapor]

Well, One time, Light use on me stun gun and i still managed to kill him

So it's never mean free kill

[torn mantle]

not if the heavy is smart

nope, a smart heavy can put down barricade and dome, and stall

[ember vapor]

Frag under ur feet, or a little bit further

[tacit stone]

What is he best class tho??

[torn mantle]

Definitly heavy, it has a lot of op stuff

[hollow dragon]

for what ?

[vale obsidian]

ur mom

[ember vapor]

Most thinks it's heavy rn

[hollow dragon]

what about your mom ?

[tacit stone]

Fatfobic

[torn mantle]

Unless you're playing TA, then it's light with the sniper rifle

[tacit stone]

Lightfobic

[torn mantle]

...I main all three classes

[tacit stone]

It’s 2024🦹🏽🦹🏽🦹🏽

[ember vapor]

Bro is trying to say n-word through usernames 😭

[tacit stone]

I am 🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿

👩🏿‍🎤👩🏿‍🎤👩🏿‍🎤

[torn mantle]

I do. For light I use the XP / LH1 / TK with Dash, gateway, stun gun and frag, for Medium i use the AFK / FAMAS with Healing beam, defib, zipline and explosive / glitch mine and for heavy I use the SA / Flamethrower with Winch, barricade, dome shield and rpg

[tacit stone]

🧌🧌🧌🧌

[torn mantle]

only time heavy is worse then light and medium is with the flying platforms and sometimes Kyoto (for flamethrower)

[hollow dragon]

poor guy

[tacit stone]

Rabbit 🐇 in my house

[hollow dragon]

you know what to do

[tacit stone]

🤶🏿🧟‍♂️

[hollow dragon]

exactly that

[hollow dragon]

post pictures

[opaque valley]

I'd like to ask for help I dunno if this is the optimal build for my playstyle but I like the Medium Build and I like rushing and juking enemies whilst outgunning them and love to slide in order to at least deviate for some of the bullets of the enemy when spotted or when gunning down the enemy and they see me in order to reposition

Current Loadout:
Medium Build
AKM
Defibrillator
Jump Pad
Gas Mine

I am still unsure of the specialization if I should go for the dematerialization one or just guardian turret

[ember vapor]

Hmmm, Try to change gas mine to frag grenade
And for specialization (in this playstyle) I'd recommend guardian turret. Bc enemy need to choose who to shoot firstly, turret or u

[opaque valley]

thank you i'll try the frag and yah I just realized that

[ember vapor]

[opaque valley]

im loving it didn't know frag could be so useful 🤣

just a just incase what would you recommend for the substitute items

[plain wasp]

Explosive mines are good too, and still better than gas mines

Replied to the wrong message but yk what I'm talking about

[opaque valley]

hmmm

[ember vapor]

Like in reserve? I got there zipline, glitch trap, model 1887 and r.357. But between guns, u can change whatever u want

[opaque valley]

I like playing around the figurines of people as well

[ember vapor]

If I want change frag grenade, I pick glitch trap

[opaque valley]

hmm icic Imma chnage it afte this final round in WT

[ember vapor]

U should watch by their pick (Heavy, medium, light, yk)
If there 3 mediums with healing beam - glitch trap counter them
If there Lights with dashes - glitch trap also

Against heavy it's pretty useless

[opaque valley]

broooo my teammates are so badddd 😭

[plain wasp]

Also turret is for lil babies

[ember vapor]

I hate turrets too, but need to admit that they are good

[plain wasp]

Heal beam is way cooler

Because it actually has the downside of not being able to fight back

[ember vapor]

True
I use heal beam by myself, and have like, level 2 on turret (bc of TA xD)

But some people would like through attack, or strong defense, so they pick Turret

[upper sinew]

my music wen i play L and DBBS (https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/track/6lKxR1j4093K49grbtC9Ir?si=ca9c734510dc4ccf)

[vivid spruce]

Turret should be capped to 30s or 1 minute I reckon

[upper sinew]

but doesnt change that i forget to turn on music sometimes cuz im enjoing the game to mutch

[vivid spruce]

I listen to rock music when I’m torching lightplayers with my flamethrower 😂

[upper sinew]

go for it if you can (sounds chill)

[vivid spruce]

Tbh I don’t usually attack a light player head on as I will most likely lose. If u get the jump on them I will p pretty much always get the kill. Also I try to stay in enclosed spaces which aids me a lot with the flamethrower

[upper sinew]

if seen havy player using the goo gun to trap player and just pull out flame trower

[vivid spruce]

I have basically only used heavy class and the flamethrower since launch lmao

My character looks like the pyro from TF2

[vivid spruce]

What do you usually play

[upper sinew]

L and M most of the time (H just to do the funny)

[vivid spruce]

We love the funny

[ancient yoke]

bro medium shotgun gotta be nerfed

[ember goblet]

does the defib always gave you +100xp for ressing? it seems so slow to level it up

[ancient yoke]

oh absolutely, whith shotty tho i just cant compete when i get 2 shotted by one guy and

[ember goblet]

god damn

yet the flashbang gives me 5000, 7000xp per powershift match

[plain wasp]

I have my gateway 1/3 of the way to level 6 and I haven't unequipped it since release and playing mostly light

[shell sonnet]

@jade violet
muskets only have 1 shot, that would either mean its garbage for 1v1s or has massive damage potential, which makes it suck to face
not a good idea imo

even as a quick burst damage gadget it might be problematic

[next root]

New flashbang skin, The sun

[fleet brook]

It takes 3 shots to kill and has already been nerfed before

It's supposed to be the ranged shotgun

[ashen hawk]

The dome shield nerf was trash. The reason behind was alr, but they need to make it somehow encourage players to move in the dome shield and meelee. That shd be the whole point. Give it atl 7 secs. Or maybe make them more resistant to damage.

[ashen hawk]

No thank you. We alr have too many medium and heavy nerfs.

[jade violet]

guys do u think dome shield is trash now

only mobile shield still good

[vagrant scroll]

Shield is not trash its just isnt the best anymore

[soft rover]

What about an artillery item for heavy? Does make much structure dmg but only 50-100 against players. U can use it against these platforms and hanging structures

[soft rover]

Riot is trash

[vagrant scroll]

I was talking about dome shield not riot shield

[soft rover]

I know, but riot is still trash

[static bison]

I just want the Devs to play an entire team of emerald heavy's and get back to me on the state of the RPG right now

[sweet thistle]

Getting to lvl 6 is extremely slow. I basically stopped paying attention to it and voila it got to 6 lol

Getting it to 7 is a bit faster

[plain wasp]

Yeah why does level 6 take more xp than level 7 and 8

[restive plover]

The skin is a higher tier.

[plain wasp]

But 7 and 8 are bigger than 6

[cunning kettle]

But they look like dogshit

[plain wasp]

That is correct

Except for the level 8 one on the V9S specifically

[cunning kettle]

Level 8 is the closest we will get to a black paint job

[plain wasp]

Just wait till you see level 9

It better make our guns hot pinkkk

[restive plover]

This does not change that level 6 is epic and 7-8 is only rare.

[plain wasp]

Embark needs to make them animated or something

[shell sonnet]

what upsides do you have if you use lewis over m60?

[plain wasp]

Damage probably but that doesn't matter if the recoil makes you miss every shot

[restive plover]

Dome shield nerf

[cunning kettle]

😔

[restive plover]

Better ttk, way better range, better hipfire and faster tactical reload.

[shell sonnet]

Does it have like less fall off?

[restive plover]

Definitely pays off to go to the range for the recoil.

[shell sonnet]

Personally i struggle a bit with its recoil
Hard to imagine using that thing at range

[restive plover]

It's falloff starts at 35 meters and ends at 40 vs m60 starting at 25 and ending at 32.5.

It also keeps 67% of it's damage at max falloff where the m60 only keeps 40%.

[restive plover]

You could try firing in bursts.

[shell sonnet]

Where did you get these stats if i may ask?

[pearl hollow]

hot and spicy take:
AKM is better than the FCAR

[restive plover]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ud7Rdl3AgMw9mmfDwW2LtDMnzZQ9IIhnqSE4ivsaMTs/edit?usp=drivesdk

[restive plover]

This is not even remotely spicy, it's objectively true.

[pearl hollow]

the stats on the fcar look so much better but the akm feels like i can just beam people with it

[shell sonnet]

Aye, nice

[pearl hollow]

just got a 21 kill game with it, my highest kill game ever

[shell sonnet]

Ty

[shell sonnet]

Maybe i should give it another shot

[hardy dust]

Fcar and akm have very similar ttks

[pearl hollow]

well akm has like no recoil

you can beam the hell out of people

[hardy dust]

Fcar is faster against lights and heavy with bodyshots, and medium with headshots.
Akm is faster against medium with bodyshots, and light and heavy with headshots

And then akm has less recoil and a bigger mag...

[agile willow]

similar damage, better ammo count, pretty much yea

[agile willow]

if you aim for headshots anyways, a large mag makes more of a difference imo

[hardy dust]

Yeah, akm is just better

[exotic skiff]

Fcar have way better range not even close tho, just depend how you play

[cunning kettle]

the damage dropoff is so similar its not "way better"

[exotic skiff]

You can clearly see the diff

And that easier to beam at range with fcar than ak

Both are good just depend how you play

[cunning kettle]

see what

[exotic skiff]

Difference of dmg at range

[cunning kettle]

what am i supposed to see

[exotic skiff]

That fcar range is better than ak

[cunning kettle]

how am i supposed to see this

[exotic skiff]

Just go in practie range

[cunning kettle]

not worth booting up the whole game to test what someone online said

[exotic skiff]

Anyway nerf Model rpg, put lewis fcar like before that would be better

[cunning kettle]

#medium-build-main message anyways skul did the math

[restive plover]

It has a slight edge between 30 and 40 meters and then goes right back to being worse after that.

Mag damage stays worse no matter what.

[exotic skiff]

Ttk is not the question here but yeah they are pretty similar

[cunning kettle]

i mean like if you are comparing raw shot damage ofc the fcar will win it has better damage per bullet

[exotic skiff]

I talk about the dmg at range for both weapons

Close range ttk are similar

[cunning kettle]

the math skul did was at max falloff distance (37.5m)

[exotic skiff]

Didn't see that, but yeah fcar at this range got better ttk and way better visual recoil/cluter

[cunning kettle]

did he not see that akm is 0.02 seconds faster 😔

[low kettle]

isn't all this just copied from itznao's document? lmao

[restive plover]

I thought zafferman and nao had collaborated.

[low kettle]

ohhh i'm not too sure then

i think nao has left the community anyway, the CNS bot is down, the original spreadsheet is gone, they left the server

[polar trout]

https://tenor.com/view/yoshikage-kira-jojo-jjba-mona-lisa-jojos-bizarre-adventures-gif-15686244

Dis u

[restive plover]

'Tis true.

[polar trout]

Definition of self love

Get it

I'm fuckin hilarious

(ion think he got it)

[hallow current]

Does anyone have any concept art or renders? I wanna see some new shxt

[polar trout]

Idk

I don't think they leak new stuff like how ow does with heroes

[cunning kettle]

i mean theres the art channels but for offical stuff they dont leak stuff

[polar trout]

Earliest I've seen new stuff is the season trailer like at most a week ahead

[cunning kettle]

cms or employees sometimes will hint at something but i dont think we have ever gotten a leak from one of em

[hallow current]

I liked how the community made hero concepts for overwatch one time.

It would be cool if we had folks who made renders as well.

Renders for gadgets and weapons. Ideas for maps and stuff.

I don't have the artistic skill to make stuff like that but if I did I would definitely share my ideas that way

[polar trout]

Oh yeah designs for weapons and gadgets are often less important than hero designs, or are based off real stuff so people just make a desc of what it does

But maps tho

[jade violet]

maybe 6s dome will be better

[shut bane]

Let’s get mediums a drone they can use to tag people with trackers

[plain wasp]

So you want sova

What's next?
Shock darts?

Scanning darts?

[shut bane]

Let’s make them disrupt

Either that or my pocket gl with utility impact grenades

[north flint]

Shotgun needs a buff

[mighty cradle]

bro you need buff xDDD

[quartz kayak]

pls make it so i can turn off weapon view models

[plucky spade]

Thank god everybody just fed themselves to you

[hybrid aspen]

so i just had an idea for a medium gadget that i would call the ilusion wall or somthing like that so my idea was a curved wall just like the heavy shield that you can place and shoot and see thru from one side but if you look at it from the other the enemys/mates are invisible and you just see the invioment behind it you can still shoot at it but you are shooting blind at everything that is behind it also may be easy counter to throw a scnner at/behind it so the enemys get detectetd i think that would be cool what do you all think ? (sorry for my bad english im german)

[vale obsidian]

every game ever

[dusk shale]

C4 and brach charge have a limit range in order to detonate it with success?

Niceeee

Then ill try to use breaching charge as "mine" for light class, stick it with the enemies revive figures

Or stick it with items around the map, gas tanks, glitch tanks, etc to explode them near the cashout when enemies nearby

[plucky spade]

Can't deny it tho they went on you single file

[exotic skiff]

Just place the breaching charge to drop cashout, doesnt do anything to detonate those close cashout

[north flint]

What's that supposed to mean😂

[north flint]

Why😂

[vale obsidian]

"went on you single file"

i think its "feeding and dying one by one like walking in a line"

[north flint]

Am I really that bad😂

[north flint]

Oh so he means a killstreak or something like that?

[vale obsidian]

nah i bet it just the enemy being a bot and dying to him you like a dumbo (forgot its your clip)

[north flint]

How were those dumb kills I didn't miss a shot😂

You bump into alot of people when you aren't on the objective

[dusk shale]

C4 mine worked 😈
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmfH6pzEMhs

[north flint]

Fcar needs a buff

[hardy dust]

You didn't miss a shot cuz they ran straight at you and didn't fight back

[hardy dust]

Fcar does need something to make it better/more interesting

[north flint]

Oh yea sure the guy on the roof shooting me wasn't actually shooting me he was just staring that's why my health stopped regenerating he's stare was so menacing

[plucky spade]

They just went in front of you amd it took them 5-7 business days to do something

[north flint]

Yea exactly like a damage buff or something like that

[hardy dust]

The guy who missed all his shots?

[north flint]

I don't know if I'm blind but I don't see anybody just coming to me and standing still

[north flint]

Because I wasn't standing still

You expect me to just stand still and get shot?😂

[hardy dust]

They still missed a super easy target 😭

That's like missing all your shots on the training dummy's at the range

[plucky spade]

I too can just press a d and simply do nothing, what sarge said, you just had the ottr compilation moments

[north flint]

They stand still

[plucky spade]

I know what it's like i've been like these guys before

[north flint]

Super easy isn't a guy moving left and right while getting shot at😂

[hardy dust]

Yes it is 💀

Hitting shots on some dude walking left and right at 1kmh aint hard

[north flint]

Seems like someone's jealous

Ottrs opponents don't shoot back

[hardy dust]

They're just really bad and can't aim

[north flint]

Yea because you can predict what someone is gonna do before they do it it's not like he knew I'm gonna randomly start moving side to side

[north flint]

The opponents that saw me were doing something

[plucky spade]

bro they were just ottr compilations waiting to happen

[hardy dust]

Maybe they have 2 fps and they can't see you slowly move side to side

[north flint]

Ok whatever makes you sleep at night

[plucky spade]

Cheers to you

[north flint]

Yea sure that must be the issue

[north flint]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[north flint]

Let's see your clips of you getting 5 kills in a single video😂

[vale obsidian]

the buff fcar joke are pretty funny to me cause im actually drawing a buff fcar popaganda poster rn lol

[north flint]

These guys must've also been drunk or something

[vale obsidian]

let me throw it in here bc why not

[vale obsidian]

shit that lag
wait i saw this clip before i think

that crosshair bro

[exotic skiff]

This is so innacurate

[north flint]

Yes I posted it before

There's no servers in my country I play on European servers

[vale obsidian]

whaaat? its propaganda lol

[exotic skiff]

Model > fcar/AK > FAMAS

[north flint]

Yes those were some crazy kills bro

But show one where you weren't getting healed

[exotic skiff]

Model is so fucking broken

[north flint]

Ak is better than all of them

[exotic skiff]

Nice joke

[north flint]

It wasn't one

[exotic skiff]

Model is the most broken weapons for medium that not even close

[vale obsidian]

i honestly think both are better but in different situation

[exotic skiff]

And fcar AK are pretty much the same just different play style

[north flint]

Ak more bullets and better recoil and more damage or similar but with 11 more bullets

[vale obsidian]

it have different playstyle? i thought it just same gun but look different

[exotic skiff]

Fcar have less visual recoil, easier at range and faster reload

[north flint]

https://tenor.com/view/why-persian-room-cat-guardian-but-why-trendizisst-anyaboz-gif-2156104475561014590

[north flint]

Faster reload but 11 less bullets

[exotic skiff]

Fcar is better if you stay midrange and just beam

[north flint]

I can kill 3 people at once with a ak or kill 2 and leave one low

After killing one with the fcar you'll need to reload

[vale obsidian]

akm can beam the same it feel like

[plucky spade]

You just cleaned house, also nice one on the prediction of your lag

[exotic skiff]

AK vs fcar AT mid range you will lose every fight with ajm

[north flint]

I play with both I'm a medium main but ak has always been better

[plucky spade]

Nope, tf2 medic up your ass

[exotic skiff]

Just different play style, but before the nerf fcar was way stronger

[north flint]

Thanks I got used to it😅

[vale obsidian]

i out ttk a fcar at range all the time
but maybe that just match making

[exotic skiff]

But anyway rn model is turbo broken

[north flint]

And he was a heavy😂

[exotic skiff]

Yeah pretty much 0 matchmaking Every lobby feel the same you drop 20 kill every 2/3 round

[north flint]

I mastered the recoil of it but ak still feels more rewarding

[vale obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-tf2memes-tf2heavy-heavy-weapons-guy-meet-the-heavy-gif-24983567

[north flint]

Nah it needs a buff

[exotic skiff]

You are rage baiting

[vale obsidian]

yesn't and a half mayhaps question mark?

[exotic skiff]

If you dont miss a bullet you dont lose a single one vs one with model

[plucky spade]

All in all my guy, you can't hit proper team wipe clips without a team, otherwise you're playing against players in the current moment that downgraded to bots

[north flint]

I'm not I'm being serious it should 1 shot lights and mediums and close range and 2 shot heavies

[exotic skiff]

140 per shoot is stupid

[exotic skiff]

You are on some good crack brother

[north flint]

It's a shotgun what do you expect

[vale obsidian]

semi auto rpg 💀

[north flint]

I don't understand what you're trying to say

[vale obsidian]

it just going to out class every other gun
thats not balance man

[exotic skiff]

In every tournament, best team play three shotgun

[north flint]

Rpg does more than 150 damage on a direct hit😂

[vale obsidian]

best team have 2 heavys

[plucky spade]

Holy shit watch a proper game

[vale obsidian]

what game is this man playing

[north flint]

Buff it and every other gun instead of nerfing everything

[north flint]

What do you think

[exotic skiff]

Compete in some tournament and you will see

[vale obsidian]

yeah and let start with the storngest gun instead of the weakest gun

[north flint]

Killing a shotgun main is easy with a ak unless you indoors

[exotic skiff]

A good shotguns will just two shoot you

[vale obsidian]

at 10-15 meter

[north flint]

Strongest is light shotgun

2 shot heavies and it takes not even a second to shoot 2 bullets

[exotic skiff]

It take more that a second

[north flint]

A real shotgun will one shot you

[vale obsidian]

not in this long ttk game

[north flint]

I mean the time from the 1 bullet to the other

[exotic skiff]

Yeah the final is a realistic game mb 💀

[exotic skiff]

It does 140 max

[plucky spade]

Wohoah you'd be dead then though

[vale obsidian]

frag can do 150 btw, but you need it to be up your ass to bearly kill light

[exotic skiff]

That a bug btw

[plucky spade]

Therefore, no biggie

[exotic skiff]

Nade are meant to do 149

[vale obsidian]

feature 🙂

[north flint]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-excellent-extra-hello-hello-u-gif-21823546

ok but the magnum needs a big buff crazy how the last shot was a headshot

[vale obsidian]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1040430876263186572/1137762225193500876/INCOMINGMISSLE.gif

[north flint]

What's wrong with them

[plucky spade]

That was just teamplay, you just finished people.
Show me a clip of you hitting a midair rocket/gas can please

[north flint]

Me too pc is just ass

I got shot by this one guy midair and he didn't miss a shot

[vale obsidian]

this is the most revolver gameplay ever xD
miss every shot then hit 2 body and a crazy headshot right after that

[north flint]

Yea revolver doesnt do great with moving targets😂😂

[north flint]

But I hit 3 body shots

That's why it needs a buff there's no way I have 6 bullets and it takes 4 to kill a medium

[vale obsidian]

the big question is will it 2 tap lights

[north flint]

1 headshot and a melee is dead with a light they should make it 1 headshot and eliminated

[vale obsidian]

:)

this going to age like milk

[north flint]

Yea it's not really working out but they could atleast add other snipers in the game or other marksman rifles

[north flint]

Body shots yes

[vale obsidian]

its not going to be fair with that fire rate dose it :(

anyways here's a schoovement clip

as always i died in the end

[north flint]

Yea you've got to love getting 3rd partied

[north flint]

That mine placement though 👌🏽

I also die in the dumbest ways

[vale obsidian]

i can top that lol

it was a glass in the way so i can't climb it

[north flint]

🤣🤣

How about running into a wall when you want to jump out of the window

[north flint]

Try topping this

[vale obsidian]

🤣

i don't think i can