💣┇weapons-gadgets

[soft juniper]

But Heavy Hammer can be countered with a Goo Gun easily so it’s really only ranged people but as a Flamethrower user you should be trying to play where you are at advantage

[rain cloak]

Use the goo gun to trap players then burn them up

not with a decent cooldown, also it would be fun

and make it melee range

so you actively have to go into danger to use it

[golden adder]

That’s fine I was gonna say heavy’s charge can boop but it’s fine because they have to put themself in danger

[rain cloak]

Ya not like a ranged repulsion gun or anything, but like make the gravity glove we use for objects and you slam some sort of magnet in it as the animation to change the polarity lol

[bleak drum]

I just started using goo gun a few days ago and got it maxed it’s awesome seeing ppl struggle to get to the cash out just to finally breakthrough and get melted but it’s way to situational only works on 2 maps

Flamethrower is only viable on Monaco and seol which is annoying

[rain cloak]

it's def kinda niche but it allows for 200IQ creativity and can delay cashout thefts

[bleak drum]

True just after the nuke nerf I’m getting shit on in maps like Vegas and skyway bc I have no range and no mesh

[rain cloak]

goo yourself if you need to delay for backup lol

[bleak drum]

I try and also try gooing them to make a run for it but most of the time it’s just MMM fcar campers on buildings beaming me 😭

[rain cloak]

Ya going to be hard to deal with meta slaves in any case. Might just have to swap to something if you run into that.

Or just try really hard not to get split from your team

[spare lynx]

Dual wielded flamethrowers

[sullen tree]

Build a two-goo high wall in front of you with four shots and then crouch benhind it

[somber halo]

if they add motorcycles they should be faster or slower dependent on ur class

[jade lava]

Throwing knives should persist after death. If I throw a knife right before i die it should persist after not disappear.

[twin berry]

throwing knives is dangerous...be careful out there

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[woven geyser]

@twin berry wups wrong chan ur right take care everyone ❤️

[twin berry]

[slender magnet]

Why are the picatinny rails on the M60 and FCAR different? The m60 pic rail looks wrong.

[restive plover]

Take the SR-84, give it a slight buff ..and give it to Medium!
Take the LH1, give it a slight buff and..give it to Heavy!
Now everyone has 7 weapon options..
Buff the throwing knives to have 3 ways to attack.. the two we already have and a 3rd option that is a short and wide range attack when you hold the alt fire.
Buff the Heavy grenade launcher to explode on hit ..no bounce in this game unless you hit a bounce pad..should give Heavy and light more gadget options.. Smoke,Pyro,Gas,Goo,Frags, Breach-charge and Flashbangs should be available to all weight classes in my opinion

[sacred halo]

Take the LH1 give it a substantial nerf and give it to heavy. Even how it is now would be absolutely absurd in a heavies hands. Take the SR-84 and remove it from the game.

[golden adder]

Heavy doesn’t need a good ranged tool. Lewis is already too much

[soft juniper]

I wish revolver could reload just slightly faster

2.15 sec feels a bit to long 1.8 would good on it

[river moat]

swords are so stupid

i hope they remove them

[soft juniper]

just dont let them get close

[river moat]

not that easy in close range maps

[soft juniper]

well then that just so happens to be where they shine

you just sound like someone who is just mad on the receiving end of the blade all the time ever played it?

[whole cedar]

Yeah sword is incredibly hard to master and can be easily countered by just being alert and hitting your shots

C4 should be available to every class then us lights could fight back against the heavy’s

[soft juniper]

we have breach

[leaden sage]

shotgun was our counter to heavies

[soft juniper]

well its called "find another way"

[rose scarab]

is lh1 good???

[soft juniper]

surprisingly it is I just suck at aiming so Im mostly a melee main

[rose scarab]

rofl

[sage drum]

anyone got some good crosshair settings?

[rose scarab]

idk

[soft juniper]

they all suck there is no creativity

[sage drum]

yea i'm starting to realize

finna just continue to use default

[supple crypt]

peerlesxpert#0942

[round bridge]

peen le sexpert lol

[dry tartan]

gg

[barren harbor]

bro thinks he's clever after changing his profession to clown

[maiden umbra]

Combine throw knife and backstabbing knife for a better gimmick weapon

[median girder]

I just made mine purple

[novel orchid]

Rate my Medium setup:

AKM
Healing Beam
Zipline
Gas Mine
Defib

[solemn hedge]

sa

[hoary coral]

Give light a stim, medium a teleporter and heavy a huge block he just throws at people or buildings

[sullen dirge]

Diamond Controller sniping clips

[fading wharf]

Heavy should get a airstrike

[west maple]

How bout a tactical nuke

[vernal meadow]

🤝

[vast kite]

evasive dash and dagger is the ultimate hooligan loadout and i love it

[west maple]

When you dash and right click you can backstab from front. It it's so inconsistent for me

[covert sundial]

Pls give mideum a breachcharge

[restive plover]

Hi

[gusty crater]

this is me typing to level up to 1

[soft juniper]

Honesty this would be nice I almost never use the right click on the throwing knife and I rarely use the left click on dagger unless I mess up the backstab

[soft juniper]

When you dash and backstabs you need to not only time it right but do a 180 when dashing past them to hit the back stab

[near oak]

m

[spare lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/inspector-gadget-happy-karate-gif-345226813656425499

[near oak]

dude what

[uneven whale]

bubble>>>barricade

[west maple]

I'll have that a go

[hoary coral]

should i change something on my light setup?

sniper
grapple
frag
stun gun
flashbang

[restive plover]

Ur right.. keep LH1 but give it the recoil it had before..haha Sniper rifle can get trashed

[restive plover]

Yeah change the sniper

[hoary coral]

but i like the sniper....

[restive plover]

Ur teammates probably don't

[gusty crater]

whats goin on gadgets

[restive plover]

Playing sniper requires excellent aim and not just aim assistance from zoom snapping and great movement ability

[hoary coral]

i mean i have somewhat of good aim

[restive plover]

Try other light weapons and stick closer to your teammates... but if you like to snipe then have fun doing that too.. it's just a game so have fun

[hoary coral]

should i change some gadgets maybe

[soft juniper]

Take it to the practice range better to learn it there first and I will say when you do pull one off it feels so good

[soft juniper]

Only thing I would say is maybe change up flash bang for Glitch based on match up

[restive plover]

Nah ur gadgets are all good but I would try everything at least once, or try stuff out in the practice range

[soft juniper]

👆 that too

[hoary coral]

oki

[golden adder]

There’s only so much you can do to make light work and sniping makes that goal even harder

[hoary coral]

yea lol

bro give light a stim or somethin

[soft juniper]

All I can say from someone who has played with a lot of bad snipers rotate to areas your team is don’t just stay in the highest place and fish for kills

[hoary coral]

i use sniper as a shotgun lol

i do stay up on high spots but thats only when i can see the cashout very clear

[soft juniper]

Bro I don’t know how people no scope and get headshot after headshot it’s super damn fishy to me

[hoary coral]

lol

[soft juniper]

It’s either lucky as hell or stinky 3rd party stuff

[hoary coral]

easy aim at the head and shot

but what is a good ranked laodout for light?

[errant whale]

Slug shottie goes hard ngl

[median girder]

i feel like shotgun has had some of my best plays and worst plays

[errant whale]

not the SA but the slug for sure

[west maple]

I tried on practice made but when you direct hit the hit box it stops you

[formal crown]

why are there so many tf2 references in the finals

or at least things found in tf2

[soft juniper]

Go from the sides

Like be infront of them but dash passed one on there sides

[formal crown]

how wide is the dagger-back-hitbox?

because if it's 180 degress behind you can theoretically trickstab an enemy

[soft juniper]

Is a cone on there back but it can be tricky because sometimes you dagger will hit there arm instead and that dose not count

[formal crown]

so its torso's back only?

[soft juniper]

Take it to practice range a learn the limits

[formal crown]

whats better doublebarrel or dagger? from ur pov

[soft juniper]

Double barrels easy mode daggers hard mode

But personally I prefer dagger because I feel that the double barrels reload time is just a little too long

[spark saddle]

Ay what are yall thoughts on the repeater?

[tight compass]

I was just getting owned by a guy with the dagger. How viable is it?

looked fun

like the melee buy in a game i used to play

[soft juniper]

Competitively not really, fun value hell yeah, it has a very high skill ceiling but it’s so satisfying when you get those backstabs

[nova nest]

the xp is usually better than m11 right

[crude quiver]

dsa

l

[oak vessel]

Nukes still broken

[upbeat fractal]

Ya

[golden adder]

C4 shouldn’t stack damage ez fix

[upbeat fractal]

Agreed

[soft juniper]

My take on how to fix the nuke problem is to give C4 only 1 charge but give it a slightly shorter cooldown, that way they either have to spend a slot on a land mine or have there team help them build it

they can’t really nerf it anymore on throwables they have to target C4 itself

[hallow leaf]

If you are going to remove a charge you are basically making it a breach charge and at that point just remove the c4 and give heavy a breach charge

[soft juniper]

But I’m not talking about practical uses I’m trying to give ideas to nerf the nuke and I’m not wrong this would make it less destructive

[cold escarp]

i just dont think the c4 should be able to stick to the explosive barrel

if a whole team is using it , they can wipe a whole team or 2 teams instantly

[upbeat fractal]

^^^^

[hallow leaf]

Best way to nerf nukes would be to make c4 do only environmental damage and very little to no player damage, so keeping them useful for destruction but useless for no skill easy kills

[young rivet]

I honestly think the easiest way is just to make them heavy so once more than one is put on a red container it will act like it has 4 mines on it

Yes atm they have taken a huge nerf but they are still useable , tbh I'm not unhappy with how they are atm but I think no or little player dmg isn't the way to go - but thats just my opinion:)

[soft juniper]

You do realize no one is going to use it at that point if that’s the case then while we’re at it why don’t we do it to other gadgets to that are meant to use for only “environmental” charge and slam, breach charge, Hammer heavy swing and so on

And nerfing it like that will ruin the uniqueness that the finals is I love the chaos

[young rivet]

Agree - problem is going to far with these nerfs will risk taking away what makes the game what it is and not just some generic shooter

[golden adder]

C4 needs less range and the damage shouldn’t stack when you use two.

Every other solution here is too extreme or removes interactions.

[soft juniper]

I would say make the blast range for C4 smaller but still bigger then Landmine so there is a differences + I will still say that removing a charge on C4 but decreasing it’s cooldown is a good play

[young rivet]

Yeah it's such a hard call on what to do with the C4 but I am very happy with the nerfs that have happened, I don't get nuked all the time anymore

[soft juniper]

I almost never see it but I have been throwing Mini nukes around (Breach charge on a throwable)

[wet flume]

Idk what class but I really want a bow and arrow in the game☠️

[sonic heron]

Okay I am going to join the other Sledgehammer mains and say melee auto aim needs to be an option

I had a double kill lined up for right swing to left swing and the game decided I should target the wrong person

[chilly turret]

what if: MG42

controllable recoil, high fire rate, lowwwww damage-

more for a suppressive fire role

[safe timber]

I really think that the Sr-84 (sniper) needs a buff, I would either be happy with fire rate, or damage. This is my favorite gun to use and I feel that it is severely underrated and looked down upon/not payed attention to.

[heady hare]

i really dont think the sniper needs any modification

no its not as popular, but i do not think its a bad weapon at all

[chilly turret]

I say: do not touch the M60

I love it where it is

[west sleet]

Kk

[sonic heron]

Sniper is great but it is overshadowed by the meta weapons. FCAR pretty much invalidates it in a lot of ways

[sinful dagger]

If you want a weapon that can confidently 1v1 any class its sword

[chilly turret]

give heavy a slow, bulky, long-range weapon

oh, and nerf the damn smgs

I’ve tried both of them and what the fuck

[golden adder]

In the trash?

[safe timber]

I think the M60 is okay, but the Lewis gun is just a bit better (in my opinion)

[sleek acorn]

Hi

[safe timber]

Hola

[sleek acorn]

Can you get a free skin from joining this

[young rivet]

A free skin ? Not that I'm aware of

[chilly turret]

I dropped a 21-kill game with it, fym in the trash

it has a role, just takes some time to learn. I have more fun with it than the Lewis

[golden adder]

Means nothing. Lewis is miles better m60 is mid

[chilly turret]

you’re entitled to your opinion, but I’m not gonna change

[golden adder]

I mean the only thing the m60 has going for it is ammo. Lewis is better at killing up close and can actually be used at range

[young rivet]

I feel the M60 was in a very odd spot , like when I tried it it sucked compared to Lewis at range and up close I would probably rather go shotgun but it's been a while since I tried it

[golden adder]

That’s exactly how I feel

[midnight crow]

fix the fcar please

[chilly turret]

my playstyle isn’t one that finds itself at range most of the time, so I believe that influences my opinion on things

I like being much more aggressive and having ammo to spare after beaming down some bumass light

And after learning the recoil of the m60, I can use it at the range I want.

[inland breach]

What needs fixing on the FCAR? 🤔🤔

[leaden sage]

lower its damage range it's insane close - medium - long range

[inland breach]

Yessir, it does need a range nerf and maybe some reduction to handling + reload speeds

[leaden sage]

maybe even fire rate,it just melts everything

[inland breach]

I don’t think any more damage nerfs or even a hit to the rate of fire is the right balancing update unless it gets its -1 damage back

[midnight crow]

its really stupid how people can just snipe me with a few bullets from across the map, sorry to hate

[chilly turret]

hmm… does anyone have any ideas for what new weapons could be added to each class?

[rose scarab]

I finally got every weapon and specialization

[rose scarab]

More healing stuff………..

[raven hedge]

I always thought the grease gun would be a cool addition, the iron sights on it aren’t the worlds worst and embark clearly likes using iron sights. Like the akm and fcar or Lewis, it has a reputation already and is pretty well known so I just kinda thought it could be a good fit

[chilly turret]

For which class?

[rose scarab]

I want a mid range shotgun for light

[raven hedge]

I was thinking medium, either make it stronger and slower firing than fcar. Or make it a middle ground between both, but I think putting ut between both would make it seem too similar to the fcar and akm

[chilly turret]

I’d like to think it could be a medium SMG

[raven hedge]

My thoughts exactly. Maybe something like 17-18 damage with maybe a 650-700 rpm fire rate

[chilly turret]

What about heavy?

I feel as though heavy has the most need for a new weapon to introduce a new playstyle, keep things fresh

[raven hedge]

Hear me out, a sniper. Idk if you played BF1 but there was a special class called tank hunter that got a giant, prone only, iron sights only, one shot only, sniper

Or ever something like the BAR, it’s an lmg with only like 20 rounds. Slower fire rate but hits like a truck

[proud perch]

Weapon Skin: Katana for the Sword

[midnight crow]

railgun or harpoon gun for heavy

high damage/extremely low fire rate

maybe a crossbow for medium

[pearl mason]

some hatchets for medium would be kinda sick. riot shields are for chumps

for a melee option

[midnight crow]

I would just like to see more fun weapons, the regular ass guns are so boring

[pearl mason]

true . really everyone got an akm or plays invisibitch

sledge is jsut fun to wreck the map with

[raven hedge]

Coming from an akm and fcar main, yeah you’re right

[pearl mason]

you cant beat it

[raven hedge]

A bow/ cross bow for any class would be cool asf

[fierce lodge]

Any one want to run

[midnight crow]

honestly a longbow would be even weirder/cooler than a crossbow lol

[restive plover]

goo mine please

[heavy summit]

.

[woeful agate]

is weapon xp/match capped at 1k?

[chilly turret]

I say, make a fuckin mossberg for heavy or something

Give heavies a deagle, perhaps

[soft juniper]

Deagle would be a nice low reload time weapon for him

[chilly turret]

Eight rounds of .50 AE would be super nice

Make it like the 357 for medium, but with higher recoil to compensate for more damage and fire rate

[soft juniper]

Yeah

[soft juniper]

Maybe like a 2sec reload as a starter? Maybe 1.8

[chilly turret]

yeah, flick the mag out and do the whole mag grab thingy to extend the reload

[midnight crow]

YES

[junior kelp]

L

[umbral elk]

i like the dome shield

[blissful linden]

Personally like the dome shield as well. I get why but have never found the barricades more useful

[umbral elk]

dome+barricade go hard on a steal!

[blissful linden]

True but could also goo it up

[umbral elk]

goo op truuu

i been using skledge alot

[pliant fog]

Maybe reworking glitch mines into some kind of snare would be cool. Otherwise I never really see anyone using them

[sonic heron]

Make glitch traps low mass so they can be used on barrels as an emp

[slate forge]

Hello

how are you

[restive plover]

I feel like the glitch trap should act like a C4 or Breach, think about it, you place it on the cashout and play off-site, a heavy tries to dome and take, and then you activate it, disabling both their shields and their abilities.

[west maple]

imagine how op would tazer be with shield

[opaque path]

I think tazer should be able to remove shields, and if you did so it wouldn't stun the target, only remove the shield. That would balance out heavy and light.

[sonic heron]

Don't remove heavy shields lol.
Just make them where they block everyone's bullets from the outside but anyone can shoot from the inside out. So you would be able to take a dome shield from an enemy and use it as cover to shoot out of.

[restive plover]

Only being able to shoot from the inside would make the dome shield especially situational, and allowing other teams to use it would pretty much nerf it to the ground.

[golden adder]

It’d still be worth using even with the nerfs. People act like the must picks of a class can’t be brought down to the level of other gadgets.

Barricade hardly ever gets used over the dome shield, and only because it synergizes best with the OP Lewis gun.

[tardy pagoda]

Love how all the mediums here are trying to nerf heavy and light when their class is by far the strongest. Nerf medium a bit and buff light and you have a more balanced game.

[calm creek]

what is the best weapon for L

[tardy pagoda]

Xp

[distant hawk]

the sledgehammer in his/her face

[rose scarab]

Glitch Grenades should explode on surface impact IMO

[tardy pagoda]

agreed

[spare lynx]

Impact grenade or Semtex would be nice

[rose scarab]

Semtex??

[spare lynx]

Like a sticky grenade yk

[rose scarab]

ah cool. I want a breach charge for medium or just a destruction option in general

[spare lynx]

Yeah it’s odd they have nothing

[rose scarab]

the GL doesnt work for it

[spare lynx]

Yeah

[soft juniper]

Well double Landmine can destroy a wall/floor so they do have something but it’s expensive

[golden adder]

It’s medium’s weakness in exchange for all the other crazy utility medium gets

[gusty swallow]

Who needs destruction when you get a riot shield and a beat stick

[soft juniper]

Honestly I agree if one class could do it all the game would become a one class only play style

[soft juniper]

I’m already bored of seeing every class playing the same Full auto weapon all the time

[rose scarab]

Cool

[soft juniper]

It’s not super optimal since it takes a hot min to set up and a while for it to come back off cooldown

[vestal wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVgVn94xEs&t=3s

[golden adder]

@soft juniper
Yeah it gets old.

It’s tough to make ranged hitscan weapons not completely dominate the meta when you have a mix of all kinds of weapons.

Hitscan has to feel extremely weak at all ranges or have some odd reverse falloff thing going to truly be balanced compared to projectile/melee.

Devs never do that, but if they’re smart, they avoid adding jack-of-all-trades hitscan guns in the first place.

[rose scarab]

should I get the landmines next??

[reef sage]

Fellow riot shield enjoyer, I salute you 🫡

[rose scarab]

fr

[reef sage]

Nothing like bashing light swordsman head with a stick

[rose scarab]

ok

[gusty swallow]

Nah bro nothing like beating on a heavy as he panicingly mag dumps and misses every shot

Or them pulling up their mesh shield like it's gonna help them

[rose scarab]

should have ads

[reef sage]

Or when the light tries to slice you with his butter knife and you pull out a sledgehammer

[rose scarab]

fr fr

[reef sage]

Damn it was so hilarious today when this one guy zapped me with a tazer and I've killed him with a single heavy attack while he was trying to slice me

[soft juniper]

If you want

[rose scarab]

or maybe glitch trap?

[soft juniper]

I would probably say give them more falloff damage and make them more of a close to mid range weapon

[soft juniper]

I don’t find a that useful

[rose scarab]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmok

[soft juniper]

But it doesn’t really matter you will unlock every gadget eventually

[rose scarab]

true I am only 6-7 away from getting everything......

[soft juniper]

Just keep playing what you normally do and unlock everything the start experimenting

[uncut glacier]

most useless gadget is the tranq dart

[sonic heron]

The Finals has melee weapons, modern day guns and historical guns. Now we need biological based weapons (think Hivehand from Half Life), laser guns (Star Wars) and smart weapons (like Cyberpunk 2077)

[tardy pagoda]

Or they could just add more variety of normal weapons instead of turning the finals into fortnite

[gusty swallow]

If the shield keeps the players on his left side they hit the shield lol our ads don't help much if your hitting a sheild

[rose scarab]

hmm ok

[rose scarab]

fr

[tardy pagoda]

That sentence just game me a seizure

[golden adder]

Turns out with all the variety of guns and weapons in the game the meta for any class is still basic guns you’d find in CoD.

The game is a VR simulation, wacky/fantasy weapons aren’t off the table.

[tardy pagoda]

I think if they were going to do something like that they would have done it already with the alien theme

[golden adder]

They have added throwing knives as a new weapon so far and vanishing bomb as a gadget. I think it’s fair to say give it time we’re on season 1

[tardy pagoda]

I think something they might do is more weapon cosmetics. For example: Making guns look futuristic or drastically different, adding bullet cosmetics, and adding different sound effects.

[stark ledge]

I'd like to see changes of weaopns to make them act different, so you can customize more and not just cosmetics...

[sonic heron]

Oh and I guess Magical weapons like a Magician's wand and the like.

[modern musk]

I feel eventually there should be some form of cryo elemental damage and with that add a cryo grenade of some kind for slowing enemies temporarily but doesn't do much damage

[stark ledge]

They need more funny stupid shit weapons that are hard to really get right, but are awesome what you do, one of those moments when you get the kill it's a "F U!" ...slime gun where they slip would be rad.

[nimble pewter]

Smart weapons like tracking missile

[rose scarab]

Fr Fr

[sonic heron]

Maybe lol. Would have to make you track someone for a bit before you can send it out though. Otherwise it would just be a Titanfall Smart Pistol moment.

[soft juniper]

Nah Tracking gets more used then other gadgets try glitch mine

[radiant kelp]

It's kind of sad there are some really cool gimmicks in this game like thermal vision + smoke grenade that don't get any time to truly shine because of how the team composition is headed right now, lights are basically useless in a competitive setting

[steep escarp]

use glitch nades, frag and stun - boom light is now playable in ranked if you wanna work 2x as hard as a medium

[uncut glacier]

Yeah the tracking grenades or the recon senses, but I ain't never seen anyone using the tranq dart

[soft juniper]

I feel Tracking dart would get more use if Lights had it

[iron hill]

Oh dude you just gave me a flashback

[sonic heron]

You are welcome.

[quick crypt]

i have some amazing ideas alr
-goo mine
-flashbang mine
-give pyro mine to medium
-smoke mine
-stun mine

[soft juniper]

Man this channle need to be like what bug report is and have little post systems so there can be shared ideas therer with descusions going on there

[waxen yew]

as a heavy: default machine gun, bashing, rocket launcher, deployable wall, mines. It allows you to be aggressive but also be defensive when needed

[elfin sluice]

What if heavy was given a mini gun to use as a special ability

[waxen yew]

I mean they already have an LMG, unless you mean something different?

[elfin sluice]

The light build will finally (possibly)be given a trap - a trip wire that can be put in door ways causing player to slow down when walking through good idea or nah?

[waxen yew]

that could be neat

[digital saddle]

nice, but not enough. we need support gadgets like stims (heals).

[elfin sluice]

Best idea.

[waxen yew]

I'd rather see some other function other than another heal, there are so many possibilities (but I am not sure of what it can be)

[digital saddle]

less please. there is mines every which fuckin' way you turn

[waxen yew]

also true 🙂

[serene lantern]

spoken like a true light main

[nimble heron]

.

[dawn geode]

hi

[chilly turret]

What about the RPK for heavy?

There is also the almighty BAR

[glacial pasture]

“Amazing ideas”
-bad balancing changes and just turning more grenades into mines

[chilly turret]

I’m trying to think of heavy infantry weapons for Heavyweights but tbh there’s not a lot of options

what about another melee option for heavy?

[glacial pasture]

Kinda hard to think of what to give them
A flail or axe or something maybe?
I want an MX4 for medium though

[chilly turret]

A fire axe skin for the sledgehammer would go hard

what about a greatsword or one of those square claymore things

[glacial pasture]

greatsword could be cool but like how would the alt attack work

[lapis cypress]

it would be cool nonetheless

[chilly turret]

Ah, I was thinking of the Konda sword- the alt fire could be a sort of lunge-sweep attack, capable of damaging multiple targets

leaves lights weak, finishable via quick melee

oh my god what about throwing axes

[glacial pasture]

If we’re going the sword route maybe a katana for med?

[glacial pasture]

You could use them like normal and then throw them with alt fire

[languid patio]

yo

[chilly turret]

YES

[chilly turret]

hmm.. I think Medium is better suited for a weapon like a half-sword, or something stylish along those lines- it has to be an iconic and functionally unique blade

seeing as light is currently hogging a lot of options with the potential of skins for the sword, knife, and throwing knives, we must think outside the box for this one

[reef sage]

Give medium a spear

[glacial pasture]

Yeah with like a charging running attack

[glacial pasture]

I just like katanas and dislike light so 😔

[chilly turret]

Spartan loadout

[reef sage]

Can throw in aspis shield as well

[chilly turret]

you must consider others as well, unfortunately- just like the fire axe. Its debut would most likely be a skin due to the similar functionality between the two items

for sledgehammer, I mean. Just like a katana. It does what the sword does, and thus would be implemented easiest as a skin.

[reef sage]

I tell you, spear would be nice, can even add a few cosmetics like Corinthian helmet, bronze greaves and a red cape

[glacial pasture]

Medieval riot shield

[reef sage]

More like ancient one

Another suggestion, how about a simple club? For OOGUH BOOGUH

[glacial pasture]

sledge skin again

[reef sage]

Damnit

[whole aurora]

change dagger to a gadget for light and add a speedboost when equipped while keeping the backstab with reduced damage

[reef sage]

Fireaxe for a medium would be a good addition

[glacial pasture]

see blitzs above reply

[reef sage]

They're different kinds of weapons though, sledgehammer is blunt, axe is bladed and I think it would work the best medium, it would be a bit weaker than a sledge so no oneshoting lights with a heavy attack

[patent bloom]

Lmao imagine tomahawks on medium class (like throwing knifes on light but worse speed, also could be used in melee combat, with right-clicking for a throw, which would cast long but would be high risk - high reward like)

[restive plover]

Tomahawks would be sick

[patent bloom]

Also ability idea for medium class: fire extinguisher ( would be basically like flamethrower for a heavy class but as an ability, would be pretty much their counter, also would work great with gas mine + gas grenade, as it would basically spread smoke everywhere. Not gonna talk about how that would allow lights tend to use thermal vision more frequently)

[patent bloom]

Yeah, they might be like worse than sword in damage, and worse that throwing knifes in speed, but be a hybrid

Also i have a third idea, although this one may be hard to balance, basically, it would be an ability for light class - ghost mode (would basically gain an i-frame for a short period of time, as well as allowing you to travel through objects like walls or doors or etc. For example: it may have 2 charges each lasting 1.5 seconds, with 10 second cd for each charge. Also, during ghost mode you wont be taking any damage, even DoT damage, however, this ability would be quite hard to utilize in order to kill. Oh and this ability would interrupt healing teammate or stealing cashout, preventing players using it for an advantage while stealing)

[reef sage]

Good idea

[soft juniper]

Man ran into a cheater using SMG getting nothing but perfect shots at all ranges very sus

[junior robin]

Add a one- shot sniper but balance it by giving it to medium and slow reloading plus slow movement

Also make an light class SMG that can kill heavy players

[patent bloom]

It is already op by giving it to medium class. + There will be too much cheaters out there just oneshoting everyone. Not gonna talk about how medium class is the most picked one

The game will just be full of campers on roofs

I mean it would be ok as a gadget for a light class with longest cd ever, but as a gun for a medium... Nah bro too overpowered

[agile locust]

no more stungun:(

[tight rampart]

What abt the stun gun, did they remove it?

If so that actually sucks dudee even if it was kinda op sometimes

[carmine reef]

Give heavy a rail gun gadget that can replace the rpg so there’s some variety maybe make it hitscan & able to pass through a few walls destroying them

[tight rampart]

That’d be cool, make it like 2k points to buy tho

[carmine reef]

Yeah but keep it high damage like able to one shot a heavy to the chest & pierce through to anyone hiding behind

[tight rampart]

Yh

Maybe two-shot actually

If it does happen i would like to also see a charging mechanism to it which would obviously release more energy which would deal more damage to the players/Environment

I would also like to see more weapons being added to the medium build

[coarse basin]

Some more destruction items for light class, even if it doesn't do a lot of damage breach charges are the only destruction we have. Same with mediums. Or at the very least give mediums access to the breach charge

Also maybe an oil can item that you could spill on the ground and it would make the floor super slippery, making running on it difficult, think ice physics in other games

[agile locust]

nah they need to get ri of stun guns or nerf it

[patent bloom]

skill issue? Its like saying "nerf light" while they are obliterated immediately with average heavy main

Most of the complains about gadgets/items is that people just have skill issue 💀💀💀💀 like why dont yall talk about how useless dart sniper for medium is, cuz its high effort - low reward, you can literally throw a sonar and it would do the same thing but with A LOT less effort and not just for 1 player. The dart sniper is just powercreeped immediately from the start bro... I dunno but the only advantage may be when you need to kill 1 hp enemy on a long range, but even in this case, THERE IS AK/SCAR. There's no point this gadget needs to stay in the game. Either they rework it entirely, or delete it

Im sorry but it almost has no use, its too skill relied and not as much rewarding, + there are better alternatives for the same class lmao 🤣

[tired cedar]

Facts, it's people who don't want to or plan to adjust their gameplay to someone who's play style is countering theirs. I love the light with throwing stars and can do really well against, heavies with melee or most mediums and lights with pistol and gadjects like shields. But swap out to bring medium or heavy grenade launcher with your reserve and I have a bad game, then if I team wipe, I'll need to change weapon for more distance. Also fire is a pain for my light throwing star + dash play style and I haven't even figured out why yet

[jagged owl]

M16A3 or Famas for Medium pls

[patent bloom]

Whats the purpose 🧐 i mean if famas would be burst-typed, like 5 bullets per click, then yeah

[golden adder]

Medium needs more guns to jump pad onto a rooftop with

[patent bloom]

Harpoon lmao

Medium-close range, little bit better than the flamethrowers. Would shoot 1 projectile and if hit an enemy, travel to it with left mouse key, or travel the target to you, with right mouse key.. hmmm

Would one shot lights in the head and two shot mediums in the head.. 3 for the heavy. And hitting the body would deal half of the damage made to the head

[civic basin]

i think itd be cool if Heavy got a sniper. like a 50. cal monster

[patent bloom]

Oh no..

[civic basin]

give it like 2 bullets then reload, and a long reload. but it deals like 140 body damage, 280 headshot

and ofc a slow fire rate

[crude leaf]

Who should I @ for an Embark employee to appear, cuz I found a slight bug with the tracking dart

[civic basin]

maybe it could even be a gadget instead of a weapon, and make the bullets regen on a 60 second timer each as its a powerful tool

[agile locust]

i said nerf stun gun cuz if theres som behind u ur fucked

[civic basin]

nah stun guns fine. annoying, but thats light ENTIRE trait. being annoying

[agile locust]

yeah but lights could also be a moira

[golden adder]

Giving a tanky class a sniper that deletes everything but other heavies in one shot is a horrible idea

[patent bloom]

Somebody still uses that lesser gadget 😭

[civic basin]

well its strong but its drawback is slow usage and needing skill to use. you get 1 bullet every 60 seconds, capping at 2 bullets, and doesnt even 1 shot any class unless you headshot

[golden adder]

Light sniper is as much damage as a sniper should have in this game. One-shots don’t belong on anything but rare instances for lights

[crude leaf]

Is it intended that when you aim on the tracking dart, your character automatically stands up? Or is that a bug. I mean no one even uses the damn thing, but in my experience with it, I couldn't crouch while ADS. The least they could do is just fix that

[agile locust]

yeah i feel like they should have a sniper but not make it broken

[civic basin]

as a free use sniper yeah i agree. but as a long cooldown tool, i think itd be cool

[crude leaf]

Perfect for when you're running Riot Shield

[patent bloom]

Why..? Riot is close range, remember..?

[terse gorge]

Would be so cool if they would add an destroying item like a drill for middle

[patent bloom]

Aand sonars exist lmao. Track more than one target 🤣

[crude leaf]

And tracking dart is hitscan just like the sniper rifle, so instead of always chasing someone, you can easily disengage and know their snapchat location

[crude leaf]

They recharge slower

[agile locust]

i feel like with a sniper it shouldnt one tap head for anyone but maybe light

[patent bloom]

But why would you use it over some other more valuable options?? I dont get it... Tracking one person is not worth it, UNLESS you play against lights without reckon senses lol

[patent bloom]

Nobody would play sniper then

[crude leaf]

It deals damage

[patent bloom]

They shouldve gived tracking dart to lights. It suits their kit more, as they are hunting one target per time

[agile locust]

yeah its not weak its just not broken

[crude leaf]

That tickle of damage can kill someone

[patent bloom]

While mediums arent meant for that specifically

[agile locust]

yeah i agree and then sniper for medium

[patent bloom]

Damage? You mean the same damage as the melee, lol funny

[crude leaf]

I'm fr playing Buckshot Simulator with the tracking dart

Again really only something you should use with a riot shield, plus you get a scoped view and are able to track 2 people from a great distance with a good recharge time and the tracking lasts a great amount of time

There's no reason why you should ever run recon senses on riot shield. Only acceptable option is the turret or heal beam

[patent bloom]

I prefer using mines and gas grenade or sonar + jump pad with shield, dunno

[golden adder]

I’d give tracking dart to light + add in a long but low damage over time to prevent health regen

[agile locust]

or if it did like a little gas damage

[patent bloom]

Yeah i know, i just dont get it why mediums have such a specific gadget like tracking dart which barely utilises considering their kit. It really looks like a light gadget, 100%

[crude leaf]

It's really good for The Final round

[patent bloom]

Its meant to be used for snipers on long range to kill low hp opponents, or track ONE enemy = ideal for light snipers

And mediums? There are other useful gadgets out there

[crude leaf]

You're not wrong

[golden adder]

Yeah mediums kit is already full of redundant tracking tools

[patent bloom]

Mediums and heavies are more like AOE, while light is specifically solo targeter

[crude leaf]

Also are gonna ever fix the bug where you can't ADS on Tracking Dart while crouched, it just automatically makes you stand up

If this is intentional, then it should at least be changed cuz again, no one uses the damn thing

[golden adder]

It’s likely nobody noticed since nobody uses the thing

[patent bloom]

Yep

Why complain when theres nobody to complain about it? Haha

[agile locust]

fair

[patent bloom]

Although i dont know if they should give it to lights and remain on medium class too, or remove it from medium entirely

[golden adder]

Medium doesn’t really need it with all the other similar gadgets/recon. Plus it fits light’s playstyle a lot better

[tight rampart]

I feel like wall running would be a pretty cool gadget/passive ability for light builds

[patent bloom]

Maybe sticky grenade? For light class

Considering that they are meant to kill solo targets / harras

Sticky grenade would lower movement speed by 85%, wouldnt allow you to jump if stepped on, BUT would be immediately destroyed by fire

Aand maybe there would be 2-3 charges of it

[fast aspen]

Can i get some opinions on the following statement?
RPG should have less explosion radius, good for self and others.

[agile locust]

i feel like rpg good the way it is

[fast aspen]

i feel like the radius is too big, i keep doing self damage even if the person is on the other side of the map

[agile locust]

i dont rlly have that problem

no offence but i think is a skill issue

[fast aspen]

also, it's odd that you cannot shoot the RPG over the barricade

[agile locust]

i agree

its 6 am im goin to bed

[fast aspen]

good night 😛

[hushed spruce]

I haven’t checked but is there goo mines in the game

[opal pulsar]

nah

[hushed spruce]

Cuz a goo mine that when activated leaves a goo puddle that stuns /slows enemy’s would be nice. And it can be combined with flammable to just trap and burn enemy’s

[swift saffron]

Nah If I would put a goo mine in the game it would be like one of the goo barrels and they would be stuck in the go for a couple seconds

[steady mango]

I play medium but not the best at support, more like offensive. What gadgets are best to use? Rn im using gas grenade, frag and jump pad. Any improvements?

And a turret ofc

[opal pulsar]

both mines at once 😳

[steady mango]

No not the mines, the grenades

I like the mines but i think i wasnt getting as many kills cuz the mines woulndt detonate as close :/

[patent bloom]

it would be interesting if goo mine worked like this: you step on it -> it covers you -> you make a contact with fire -> you burn until death OR until you go in a smoke

• goo mines would work pretty well with flamethrower heavies

[heady hare]

I am fighting nothing but GLs every game lmao

[reef sage]

Would work nicely with Goo gun+flamethrower build

[whole imp]

imagine a heal bomb ._.

[tight rampart]

I wonder how that would work, i mean it is a simulation after all

[whole imp]

Just throw it and heal yor mates ig lol, it would be useful in a pinch

[tight rampart]

Definitely

[slender magnet]

when did they release this?

Best skin in the game (og AKM)

Also, Bakelite AKM Magazine skin when?

Also

(without the optic ofc)

More like this

[split notch]

Wow, that is sleek. How much is the skin? Can’t check atm

[slender magnet]

125. There is also an OG skin for the 1887 now.

[split notch]

I can feel my wallet getting lighter with nice skins like this

[whole imp]

Also check the Lewis Gun too

it's got a nice wood finish that i would show you but it wont let me paste it :/

[split notch]

Did they happen to have a .357 skin with wood grips? Seems like the perfect opportunity to have one

[slender magnet]

Ik

[slender magnet]

There is only the 800 one from before

Btw how the AKM skin looks in-game

[split notch]

Rip
always next time.

[whole imp]

another good addition would be for the m14 with wood grips

[slender magnet]

yeah

Or just an m1 garand skin instead

[reef sage]

Has anyone encountered a bug with stickers, charms and inspect animations not equipping when you load into the combat? So annoying

[slender magnet]

M14 og would be awesome

In a Vietnam War themed cosmetic pack

[split notch]

Can’t say I have. Unless it only started occurring with this update.

[reef sage]

It's been bugging me since valentine's day update, so... Since last week

[split notch]

This might be a very dumb question. But you equipped them through the contestant edit menu yeah? I assume you have.

[reef sage]

Let me guess, this shit is broken?

[split notch]

Most likely.

[reef sage]

Well, fuck

So where should I apply them?

[night hamlet]

a bit off topic, but - anyone else here got the CB1 cosmetics?
Haven't been seeing many players rocking the fit, and wondering if it's now v rare

[split notch]

I’m not sure. If you did it through the contestant edit menu and it didn’t work, idk. I would leave a post in the game feedback page. Wish I could be more help.

[reef sage]

Well, I've already filed a bug report to Embark so I hope they'll look into it. I was just curious if there's someone else experiencing it.

[split notch]

Yeah, hope they fix it fast given people are spending money on that kinda stuff.

[opaque crown]

How do isend a picture here bc I have a very cool idea

[reef sage]

Equipping them through main menu worked

It's a bit frustrating but it'll have to do

[grave dirge]

Add glock for mid

[vale obsidian]

we already have that gun in a foam of LH1

[lone compass]

they also added a realistic lewis gun skin

[cerulean hedge]

which main menu? mines broke too

[reef sage]

when you load into the game under your constant under their feet there's an edit button

use it to apply those

[iron canyon]

hello

[fast girder]

why is there so few skins for FCAR bring good FCAR skins !!!!

[split notch]

I am curious about what they could do to the FCAR. I just feel the design is overall limited imo, so I guess I have a small imagination. But it would be cool to see like. An FAL skin replacement. Call it the FCAR Classic or something

[rigid void]

Fr

[west maple]

Season 2 😉

[hushed spruce]

Add hamster

[thorn tree]

this is actually an important point.

Devs take notes.

[soft juniper]

Imagin a gadget that let you booby trap vaults and Banks when you interact with them they will have a specific sound when triggered and you a a short few seconds to get away from the objective or the trap goes off either doing Fire, Gas, Explosive or taser effect

But the effects arnt super great just a small amount of it

[west maple]

New gadget: liquid slime grenade, when walking through it your movement will slow down by 90% and if you stop sprinting you get stuck for 1 second

[slim linden]

#👂┇game-feedback

[west maple]

Is this section only for existing gadgets ?

[soft juniper]

It’s for new weapon and gadget ideas too

That’s what it been used for along with balance changes ideas

[west maple]

Oh okay thought I was wrong when @slim linden tagged me lol

[soft juniper]

They probably think the opposite

[left iris]

I just thought about how a sort of force manipulator gadget could be cool. My idea is that it would be some kind of force manipulation device and it would act sort of like the pick-up but it would amplify the speed and distance thrown of certain objects, alone with being able to take out chunks of a wall depending on what class (I would give this to medium or heavy’s) and possibly a charge secondary fire that would create a sort of shockwave that would repel and maybe push out a section of a wall for example and the longer the fire button is held the more powerful to a point the shockwave, it would also work for things being held in the pickup mode

[west maple]

Or an ability to absorb incoming damage from all sources and send them flying back to the enemy, or a hack gadget

[slender magnet]

Yes, Ik. I am talking about the skins

[left iris]

I like the idea of the reflect shield type thing (there is something like it in titanfall 2) and we already have the glitch nade so are you suggesting something like that but an active ability like (sombra’s hack in overwatch?)

[west maple]

I'm suggesting that gadgets like zip line, mines, turrets etc could be stealthily hacked , zip line could break half way when hacked, jump would toss you in another direction

[left iris]

That would be so funny and I would be so down for it

Also they could probably intergrate it into the lore or something and imagine an April fools game mode where everything is hacked

[gritty swallow]

The troll Potential on the zipline would be huge

[left iris]

Agreed, imagine dropping someone halfway up the in construction tower on Seoul 😂

I think it would be good on light mains with invis and a rosta of other gadgets

[gritty swallow]

Imagine medium zipline tot the Point over a Gap and hack it when your team has used it to make it hell for the other teams

[west maple]

DEVS TAKE NOTES

[left iris]

😂 this would be perfect and hilarious if it didn’t show it was hacked when they got on it

[gritty swallow]

Rn you can just camp the zipline and break it when they get on it

[upper seal]

+1 heavy in team
voice discord

[left iris]

True but I think the hack idea in general is a good idea

[molten geyser]

game is killing itself with the nukes hahaha gg embark

[remote sable]

as we approach season 2 i really really hope that the sr-84 sniper rifle gets some sort of buff
i won't advocate for one shot headshots (even though this game's hitboxes are VERY unforgiving), but more a look at the rechambering speed getting faster so that snipers can get a followup shot and capitalize off their reward

i know that snipers are very much a coin toss on destroying shooters or being useless, and i think the sr-84 is very close to being a good entry for the game, however it is far too difficult to get a full capitalization of landing a (head)shot on an opponent due to the slow rechambering of the weapon. i hope that the gun gets some much needed love

[west maple]

thanks bro

[west maple]

i feel llike it should be able to shoot though walls, would bring more uses to detecting gadgets

[left iris]

Maybe add that to the revolver as well

[restive plover]

give the sledgehammer 4x the range and make it do triple the damage then make it do fire damage

and be able have dual weild the sladge hammers and be able to run faster when holding it like faster than a light

my bad it was a misinput

[gleaming oak]

I got my first ranked win using a flamethrower after weeks of just reaching finals. Any recommended builds with the flamethrower?

[dusty ruin]

I can't equip a weapon skin, it just keeps the previous one on. Anyone know a fix?

[thorn tree]

might try deleting the contestant.

[leaden sage]

a dual weiled weapon would be fire

[restive plover]

Dual Berettas

[digital saddle]

both skins selected? it is a bug. just delete the contestant and create it from scratch

[obsidian island]

Imo as much as i love this game, i think l that there needs to be a funner viable weapon for medium. Lights are so fun to play but a bit lacking, heavy is really funny to destroy and wreak havoc and imo mediums are kind of bleh. Cl-40 is the funnest weapon but not bible comored to akm. Either a weapon with more movement or destruction capability I think would work best

Or it’s own niche. I know medium is the “best of both worlds” but they play as “default character with nothing unique”

Doesn’t make them not super strong and viable, just feel like the least fun to play, especially while heavy and light have fun unique play styles and a wide variety of classes, every medium is probably akm/fcar with dfib jump pad and some grenade or mine. The specials are varied but don’t change play too much as opposed to light and heavy specials

(and if im wrong tell me a fun build cause ive been looking for a fun medium build)

hear me out a whip like weapon that pulls enemys in with alt fire, and has a melee flurry for normal click

esp good with mine combos, and playing with a heavy

[grizzled star]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxLjYFQWrrhqVKaP46jCNmkrF-0jixIAEl?si=HFEC4FyZD269-JoM

[obsidian island]

or maybe a bow with an alt fire of shooting a rope tied to it that lets you accelerate towards enemys, and if you shoot an arrow through fire it is on fire (and sets enemys on fire)

[chilly turret]

1887 and Revolver are stupid amounts of fun, use Recon Senses and focus on offensive (keep defibs on tho)

[cloud anchor]

Without healing beam, is defib really worth using? Usually just results in teammates reviving mid-fight and the poor revivee 🤕 dying again near instantly, especially if they're not a heavy

[obsidian island]

havnt tried 1887 will do!

[soft juniper]

alot of defibs dont revive you in a safe place and prefer to revive you in the middle of a fight Its ok if its a heavy but as a light its not fun at all

[obsidian island]

what i love about this game is being able to play a whole bunch without finding some crazy build thats fun / cool. I hope this continues with every new item synergizing with every other item creating new awsome combos

[cloud anchor]

That's the thing, if not using the healing beam, then the best option is to take the statue to a safe place to revive, but at that point you may as well revive without the defib, so they get full health 🤷‍♂️

[chilly turret]

teammate dies
kill the person who did it
make sure nobody is around
defib

It’s quick and doesn’t slow you down as much

[cloud anchor]

True, but in most scenarios their teammates are around the corner to follow up

[chilly turret]

it is also personal preference, but defibs are a must-have in some situations and it just wouldn’t be the same without em

[chilly turret]

sometimes, I’ve noticed that some enemies will run an isolated attack and be reckless, often two people away from obj fight and I have to revive my teammate because he was doing the same thing as the other guy

It is very situational, so you are very much correct

[cloud anchor]

Yeah, it can definitely be useful there, agreed.

[chilly turret]

combat revives are best used on competent teammates who won’t die instantly

[obsidian island]

(good on lights who have dash tho)

[chilly turret]

Mhm. Dash isn’t my preference (grapple user bc Titanfall) but that’s true

Also if you really wanna be oppressive the M60 (when you learn to use it properly and at the correct range) is a monster

[soft juniper]

I really only keep healbeam for the dailys

[cloud anchor]

Same, I maxed it some time ago, not as motivated now to use it when solo-queuing

[restive plover]

I still haven't switched off it, even with the other two unlocked. I like seeing those support points.

[obsidian island]

i think medium variety is still a bit lacking tho. it falls victim to being a jack of all trades. i think every agent could use one more special and medium could use one more weapon, maybe 1 more gadget for everyone and then i think thats good. the game is super fun esp for first season i just hope that it finds a way to keep it fun for a long time

[soft juniper]

just wait till new season where the battle pass is important again

[obsidian island]

imo new season is gonna make or break it, but i trust embark

[chilly turret]

In embark we trust

[distant hawk]

mg42 when?

[chilly turret]

the ex-battlefield devs haven’t fucked it up so far, best thing to do is be encouraging and help them how we can

[chilly turret]

PLEASE I am begging for one of them

[distant hawk]

mg42 or mg34 for heavy

and m16 or m4 for medium

[obsidian island]

is going so good rn esp for 1st season, great thing about subclass based selection is that every item isnt just one new plasystyle is a whole bunch of synergy, as opposed to say valorant where agents are one thing and kinda standalone making them not add much

while just one new item could be a massive update because of synergys in the finals

[soft juniper]

im still gona play this is my game since Gundam Evolution shut down

[obsidian island]

oh fs, but the more people that play the funner

and the more likely ranked will... like work at all

[soft juniper]

yeah true

[obsidian island]

cause rn idt there are rlly enough people to do ranked well

[soft juniper]

Im not much of a ranked player I have delt with to much toxic players + I tend to do Off-meta stuff and focus on doing fun builds in this game like dagger

[obsidian island]

same

[hazy summit]

Ay I need 2 ppl for ranked on xbox

[halcyon panther]

what are the best gadgets for medium

[obsidian island]

how do you want to play

theres no best theres just best for your playstyle - although i think
-gas nade
-jump pad
-defib / expl mine

i tend to go by the rule "if i use it whenever it is recharged i want it in my kit"

[reef sage]

It depends, defib and aps turret are must have I'd say, they're always useful, jumpad, zipline and mines are situational, grenades are always good to have, frag and gas especially

[heady hazel]

No way

[burnt gyro]

rpg frfr

[soft juniper]

20 days till next season woot

[somber python]

Sword lunge into quick melee against Light classes is so stupid broken in bank it I love using sword so much

[static lodge]

A lot of light vs light fights can end very fast :)

[bleak lantern]

gotta love how they shit the bed with c4 update, in 10m range you do more dmg to yourself and sometimes dont even do dmg to enemy player, how to make the c4 shit, great job

[lost blaze]

https://youtu.be/f-wAW35IxWQ

[novel panther]

If its so shit why do 100% of Heavies in ranked use it?

[soft juniper]

Me over here adapting and finding a new way

[chilly turret]

the human ability to adapt to shit is something most finals players lack, apparently

[cosmic ember]

Why people mad about c4 change. It wasn’t really meant offensively

Even then it’s still very usable

[frank timber]

Defense- gas mine, defibrillator, aps
attack-frag defib, pad/zip
Support-sonar, defib, pad

That’s what I would use depending on my play style

[slim hatch]

Defense - expl mines gas mines glitcb mines
Attack - expl mines gas mines glitcb mines
Support - expl mines gas mines glitcb mines

Too lazy to fix minor spelling mistake 😭

[frank timber]

gotta use the cl40 then 💀

[slim hatch]

Cl-40 ironically goes crazy when you need to blast a revive statue towards yourself

Also great in preventing a defib runner

[frank timber]

True

[slim hatch]

Placing 6 mines on a revive statue is also funny

[frank timber]

atp just leave

[soft juniper]

Heavy’s are upset because they can’t nuke people more then 10m away & others are probably still mad claiming the nuke problem was never fixed

[cosmic ember]

To be fair I don’t think anything really was fixed or changed. Yeah I ain’t getting cross mapped by a nuke now but it’s still a issue but to be fair it’s easy to avoid

@soft juniper

[soft juniper]

Exactly people just need to plan for it but there not willing to change there builds for it

But if they are to try and nerf it more they are gona have to target the C4 itself and nerf it’s damage or blast range

[golden adder]

Explosive gadgets shouldn’t stack damage is the issue more than anything.

[cosmic ember]

I feel like they should just change the damage a little just to make it a more precision nuke so that it isn’t just a general vicinity

[frosty pike]

most complaints about the nuke are actually regarding a major skill issue, rather than a broken mechanic. One simply needs to learn their enemies and prep for those who frequently use nukes. It's also not that hard to shoot/blow it out of their hands, resulting in a free kill or two. yes, i can see the problematic side of the situation, but i think majority of players make it seem like a bigger deal than it really is. one can run goo grenades, or some form of shield to block the nuke. it takes 1 object to send it the fuck away and do next to no damage

[frank timber]

They never gonna get rid of nukes tbh, it’s almost always in the trailers 🤷

[frosty pike]

its used in the trailers because they are intended. + this is a chaotic, gameshow, heist competition. how can it not be filled with explosions and fires and madness all over? the game is not supposed to be like cod, generic shooting your enemies over and over. houses are supposed to disappear and people to blow up. But a lot of players simply wish to cry over the slightest advantages. i'm OK with the nuke nerfing so far (not a fan but im ok), and i don't think we need to do anything drastic anymore. Medium however... i can think of quite a few things to do with them..

[golden adder]

Putting two c4 on a throwable isn’t worthy of one shotting anything within 8m of where you throw it. The game works so hard to not allow one shots without truly earning it situationally

[frank timber]

Ofc that’s why they were nerfed to make it not too strong, but the game is never removing them entirely, I think as it is now it could use delay when thrown imo.

[golden adder]

Attaching something to a throwable shouldn’t one shot even a medium unless you direct hit them and the canister exploding itself does the rest of the damage.

It’d be stupid to remove interactions from the game but let’s not pretend nukes need to have the capability of one-shotting a heavy let alone an entire team of them

[cosmic ember]

Hopefully no one nukes me on the way home

[soft juniper]

Think fast

[cosmic ember]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-gif-26347862

No gif for me

Literal skill issue

[soft juniper]

Don’t worrie I never really used the nuke when it was good besides I adapted and have created the “Mini Nuke”

[main cloud]

wouldnt an aps turrent destroy that?

[soft juniper]

Yes it destroys all objects besides bullets (cant remember if grenade launchers Count)

@main cloud

[main cloud]

yes it does sadly

[soft juniper]

So to counter Nuke all you needed was APS but people didn’t want to take it because they didn’t want to waste a slot for there perfect Meta build

[main cloud]

lol i feel like thats op

but you need the defib @soft juniper

[soft juniper]

Defib + one movement gadget and then you SHOULD have a flex slot for situation based

[heady hare]

Turrets are probably the worst thing in the game

[soft juniper]

To lights it’s a bit of a problem to mediums and heavy’s not so much

[frank timber]

Glitch nade make it easy

[bleak lantern]

not talking about change, talking about the c4 range, u mostly kill yourself now bc of that, no way that it must be like that.. and the c4 have a bug where it drops from barrel ..

[bleak lantern]

show me the stats pls.. 100% xD cringe

[jade ermine]

I would quit the game if I saw that coming right at me 😂😂

[soft juniper]

With nukes being nerfed imagin seeing a light suicide bomber coming at you

[lone compass]

what do you guys think about barricade and if it is viable in comp?

[wicked sundial]

barricade is okay, I prefer goo grenades

I usually run goo grenades, rpg, and dome shield on heavy

[lone compass]

ive been using barricade and noticed alot of people arent able to hit me and it allows for 1vs2's and 1vs3's

[ancient hazel]

send me good med and heavy builds guys pls

[soft juniper]

Barricaded is a nice replacement for Dome shield + with goo gun you can block out a door way by placing it and shooting 2 globs of goo above it

[delicate bolt]

Karmacrow i agree

Shit he needs to own the game

Oh shit

[molten geyser]

you honestly are either really braindead or have no idea how fps games work

[molten geyser]

are you actually serious? if you are, please consider deinstalling any fps games and play minecraft 🙂

[west maple]

It's a game based around rules of physics being experimented on not your milsim shooter that you probably signed up to be a mod server for sweating your Cheetos fingers over, so next time you thinking bout rope, just do it

[frank timber]

It depends on play style 🤷

[cloud anchor]

Ha, who are you? You replied to a message that wasn't even addressed to you a day later, just to insult my opinion. Wow. Next time just say you disagree

[frank timber]

I feel like if they were to add that they would add “rounds” and it would have strengths/weaknesses

[west maple]

Wall pen rounds - makes your bullets travel and gets rid of hit scan completely

[west maple]

I can give you a tip, run scar if they have a lot of heavies, run ak if they have a balanced team

P.s ak is more forgiving to miss your shots due to higher count of mag

[chrome rock]

xp54 should do more damage

[stone rampart]

bro did not just call the fcar a scar

[stone rampart]

also heck no the XP54 is right where it should be

[atomic geyser]

Weapon - Burst AR
Name - (Can't Think Of One)
DMG - 5 Per Bullet X 3 (BodyShot) | 7.5 Per Bullet x 3 (HeadShot)
Magazine Size - 33
Fire Rate - .1 second distance between bullet | After 3 bullets 1.5 second
Reload Speed - 2.7 seconds
Sight - Iron Sight

[primal dove]

Flamethrower goo combo 100%

[remote turtle]

haha

[craggy harness]

guys what is the worst weapon for all classes?

[obsidian island]

medium is the revolver imo
heavy def the grenade launcher
all light weapons seem pretty good

[remote turtle]

nah, sniper light. I mean, those guys cause us to lose. bwhahah

[obsidian island]

"res? i unbound res" - sniper main probably

[remote turtle]

could we maybe get some chonkla skins for the grenades... then playing the game will feel like home

[faint burrow]

“sniper main” mf sat on roof tops breathing down their scopes and call them selves “ sniper main”

dont forget the cranes, their favourite place to sit on

[rose scarab]

guy I am 93/96 !

[clever aurora]

Did I just play you?

[faint burrow]

nope not really, Did I play you tho? Cuz I usually beam them off

[obsidian island]

sniper main proceeding to snipe the outside of the cashout building while its being stolen

[faint burrow]

cashout is mostly in building, this aint cod

[clever aurora]

There’s windows tho. I just dash in and taze when stealing

[rose scarab]

so hyped to finish the BP

[uncut glacier]

Again, asking for gatling gun for lights

[inland breach]

Tracking Dart in this current meta guys it’s so good wtf

[wicked flame]

What's contestant

I'm also spamming to become contestant.

[rugged spindle]

There should be a bow for light in my opinion

[obsidian island]

hmm... maybe, how would the bow differ from the existing weapon choices. what playstyle is it best suited for, what range is it meant for, are there any significant features of it that make it differ from a regular weapon, any specific uses besides dealing damage? What would make a player want to interact with its mechanics?

@flat birch I'm not sure about having damage scale with charge time like that, since it encourages meds to leave fights, shoot, hide, etc. which isn't fun for either party.

[restive plover]

I mean it is just a scar 17 with a weird offbrand name.

[timid plume]

Light should get a healgrenade, healing 100 Health for everybody in the Range. Maybe a gadget to Hack enemy gadgets and Let them work for you. (Torret, shields, aps etc) light got already 9 weapons. Give Medium a burst weapon, a silenced m4 or a m4 with grenadelauncher attachement (dealing less dmg than normal grenades). For Heavy Maybe a pistol like deagle.

[covert snow]

bro revolver is cracked! i would have said riot shield is the most useless out of them all but i reckon it is very niche and some people are very good at it
heavy nade launcher for sure
and then sniper, dagger or throwing knives

[obsidian island]

i actually just forgot about riot shield its so bad 💀. Im sure some people can use it well but like its still bad

[versed oxide]

Plz buff throwing knives, more accurate while moving would be huge, as a light im a sitting duck waiting for those things to charge and the range is horrible, maybe a little quicker, and let us charge up the alt fire 🙌

[flat birch]

There are very few weapons with slow loading times, so I gave those ideas and many people liked them, and even less the bow, which would be that it doesn't take long to load the crossbow and cannon, those do take time and it also makes sense to take time to reload because in life Real also takes time to recharge, and the VRS thing is the best idea and I hope you listen to my ideas

GUNS IDEA
I have an idea for the game, since we already bought everything in the weapons store and the vrs is no longer useful, I propose an idea to spend the vrs on xp for the weapons, that is, unlock weapon skins with the vrs since the vrs in a future will stop being useful since we bought everything, in fact I already have everything and the vrs is of no use to me, so I propose that the vrs can be spent on weapon xp and also an idea of adding a new weapon, a crossbow for the character with agility with great damage, the crossbow takes a long time to reload, and a simple bow for the medium one that shoots arrows with a normal speed and takes damage depending on how long I left it stretching the arrow, it will do more damage, for the big guy a new rocket but it is a cannon and it takes too long to reload but it makes everything explode and it can make holes in buildings or houses

[elder portal]

Buff the breach charge again so you can use it with barrels

[chilly turret]

transfer your VRs (if they are full) into multibucks

that would be a cool gameplay incentive, make the grind a little more worth

[royal thicket]

Sadly no

[tight rampart]

Yeah that would be great instead of actually buying fake money with real money

[zinc rapids]

That would be super good!

[tight rampart]

Even if its like 25 multibucks each max VRpoints i would still like that idea

[misty axle]

I end up calling it an HCAR half the time by accident because of the name haha.
They actually could use Mk 17 or Mk 17 Mod 0 since that's a military designation while SCAR is an FN brand name.

[misty axle]

Isn't the LH1 just an M1A?
I'm not sure if the MP5 could be used as long as they omitted the HK in HK MP5
Or the Laugo in Laugo Alien
The MGL32 is really close to M32 MGL and rolls off the tongue better anyway.
I think it's funny that they straight up called the (Winchester) Model 1887 by its name, but I don't think the copyright is still active anyway.
They also called the M60 by its military designation outright, so they're not against doing that - I wonder why they chose to make off brand names for some of the guns unless theyre, like, designations of other countries' armies. But, I could only get a plane for XP-54 and a bike for LH1, though I didn't look too hard.

Also, I just want to say that certainly was not expecting to see the Laugo Alien in AA+ games so soon.

[chilly turret]

Or like 100 multibucks for every thousand you have, like a “cash in” feature

[misty axle]

I think their point was that they'd want the feature, even if it was an agonizing drip-feed instead of something more convenient, just so that they at least could grind something.

[chilly turret]

That was my original point as well, I simply wanted the numerical values to match up

“Cash in” is a feature I’d love to see, and should only work when the you have max VRs. Gives like 100 multibucks, sweetens the pot a little

[misty axle]

1000VRs to 100MB would be insane to me.
I think I'd be able to buy the Battle Pass in a couple weeks by playing a couple hours a day.

[chilly turret]

Yeah, that does seem a little too much

[misty axle]

Doesn't a decent unranked tourney run give you ~300?

[chilly turret]

Wait HUH

[misty axle]

It's been a while for my swiss cheese brain haha

[chilly turret]

I didn’t know you can get MB from tourneys

[misty axle]

No, VRs! Ack

[chilly turret]

oh right I’m stupid

[misty axle]

But that'd be ~30bux if my original estimate should be correct.

[chilly turret]

Yeah, seems so

[misty axle]

Using my original estimate of 300VRs per unranked tourney, that would be 2.5 bucks per game, which is kind of reasonable in my eyes as a slow drip feed, esp if you save up for the battle pass, which gives out more than its cost (at least in this season).

[frank portal]

what about flashbangs

[misty axle]

Flashbangs are kind of bad since the enemy has to be looking at it (I never tested if FoV is factored) and it can hit your teammates.
Not to say that it's useless since you can toss it behind your teammate, yourself, the cashout, or a deployable to bait people into looking at it. But you should coordinate with my team so they don't get blinded.

[frank portal]

how long enemy can be blind?

[misty axle]

It depends how close it is, but it can be several seconds - I don't remember the exact time, maybe 5 seconds?

[frank portal]

ok thx

[golden adder]

Without the friendly fire, flashbangs would be worth taking.

I tried them the other day not knowing they affect teammates until a dude hopped on the mic screaming.

[wooden steeple]

What if it’s own game mode where you have to cash vrs out to get multi bucks while fighting other players and it costs like 1000 vrs to get it and you can get like 200 MB

[misty axle]

I think they'd also kind of need an AoE radius that they'll work in even if you don't look at them (inspired by Siege).

[misty axle]

That's a cool concept, to basically wager your cash, but it'd likely have all the issues people don't like about the Ranked meta and you'll have more loss potential in terms of hours of progress lost.

[honest field]

.

[alpine rapids]

yessirm i tihnk more gadgets for light

and medium

[heady hare]

Gimme a gas mask gadget

[timid plume]

change vr to mb will never happen.... think about why the game is free and how free to play games work..... cs, dota, lol, apex........so give them money for their work

[wooden steeple]

Maybe making it a bi weekly event could make it even better

So you have 2 weeks to rack up VRs and then play the vr to mb event and it continues to cycle

[timid plume]

but thats how they get money. so if we stop giving them money for skins, they have to fire people, so we get less skins until the company goes broke, cant pay servers anymore and the game goes down. so u want this?

[tight rampart]

Reason why i say 25 is that you get like 75 each from the season pass

But yeah they could do that, maybe even maximise the Vr Points to like 5,000/10,000

[chilly turret]

That makes it very agonizingly slow, which is why I chose a middle ground for 100MB every time you “cash in” your full 3000 VRs

[timid plume]

its like playing 5 tournaments.... i play 10-20 per day.... so 200-400 mb per day.... you know how much this is?! 😂 you guys should google how free to play games work and how they generate money

[tight rampart]

You get multibucks from tournaments? Or just from the season pass by XP

[timid plume]

no, if u give 100 mb per 3k vr. thats the calculation. u can get multibucks in battlepass or buy them and thats how the company stays alive. so stop this ideas

[restive plover]

I mean most free to play games do have some way to reliably earn premium currency, just at a significantly slower rate than if you paid upfront.

[lost blaze]

https://youtu.be/qzzdHwKmsLc

[flat birch]

GUNS IDEA
I have an idea for the game, since we already bought everything in the weapons store and the vrs is no longer useful, I propose an idea to spend the vrs on xp for the weapons, that is, unlock weapon skins with the vrs since the vrs in a future will stop being useful since we bought everything, in fact I already have everything and the vrs is of no use to me, so I propose that the vrs can be spent on weapon xp and also an idea of adding a new weapon, a crossbow for the character with agility with great damage, the crossbow takes a long time to reload, and a simple bow for the medium one that shoots arrows with a normal speed and takes damage depending on how long I left it stretching the arrow, it will do more damage, for the big guy a new rocket but it is a cannon and it takes too long to reload but it makes everything explode and it can make holes in buildings or houses

[slow lake]

b

[tight rampart]

B?

[remote turtle]

?

[digital saddle]

bots are getting sillier

[remote turtle]

must be the case

[indigo prawn]

NEED A STIM

[soft juniper]

We might get it next season

Since they have not touched balance changes for these last few updates just bug fixes

[elder portal]

Gas mines are s tier 👌

[stone rampart]

yes and we embrace the name after all it isnt a scar-17 :)

[heavy warren]

i think they should give medium a marksman rifle

[wanton owl]

I would like to see weapons kinda like Battle feild 3 had

change sites add a differnt barol ect

[restive plover]

It is, and scar rolls off the tongue smoother anyway.

[coral bolt]

I cant choose between shotgun and lewis for heavy, is it just down to preference between the two?

[desert mango]

on heavy you dont use weopons just the goo gun if your trying to be optimal

[radiant crescent]

You guys should buff the 1887 shotgun the reload takes soooooo LONG

[restive plover]

If you're not already, make sure to empty the magazine to get the shortest reload.

[woven hornet]

s

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[steady prairie]

Whens the spear skin for the sword coming out?

[quartz hatch]

New here. But what yall think is the best build for Medium rn thanks

[steady prairie]

AKM if your aim is worse for wear, can never go wrong with the shotgun

[restive plover]

Akm is good even if your aim is up to par, having 220 more damage in a magazine over the scar goes crazy.

[hoary trellis]

I swear to y'all, When you manage to combine skill with Focus on the Zipline and use the pistol... Man, it's bliss, for me

[quartz hatch]

The sight on the fcar helps my blind ass no lie😭 yall are right about the extra 220 more damage tho

[quartz hatch]

The pistol goes crazy if you can land them head shots

[hoary trellis]

Gonna be honest, Being a light user is a Complete 50/50, every match in ranked tournament

[soft juniper]

Meme idea: turn Dagger into a Gadget and it can one shot anyone in the back at full hp or it does half there health anywhere else (Note: you cant kill them with this unless its done in the back other wise they would be left with 10hp) this would have a long cooldown in turn to it, Now remember this is a Meme idea dont take it seriously

[obsidian island]

i wish we could change the scopes, i hate iron sight, but i guess (?) its a balance thing

[obsidian island]

imo smoke grenade and canisters should remove gas, and gas thats burning should deal extra damage for the 3-4 secs its around, opens up more synergies with other things, flamethrower gas grenade

[main cloud]

stop lying 😦

[quartz hatch]

In that case I think they should make it a option for different scopes but you have to buy them through there VR coin things that you get from leveling up

[obsidian island]

yeah, i get it if they dont want to though

[soft juniper]

Maybe Glitch should also glitch out cash out spots making it so you cant cash out there or steal it (does not work if its your cash out)

[sand sentinel]

agreed that would be dope

[agile locust]

a sentry meant to take out sentrys

[elder portal]

Just got 31 kills in a quick cash round with it

What else would you take as a medium?

I think it’s a really solid pick for playing medium and in my opinion definitely an s tier gadget

For me the mines are more consistent than the frags or other grenades

You just gotta know how to play with them

[west maple]

Everytime I see light user on ranked, they get knocked out first round

[soft juniper]

Meme idea: So this Special when activated you are put stationary and you start to Matrix dodge all incoming damage (Besides Fire, Poison, Explosive) as long as you hold the button down, How ever you can only do it for so long

[warm dragon]

any new iteams that you think would be funny in the new season?

i think maybe a bee-bomb like gas but targets enemys

[rough tulip]

Does anyone have that Tama view charm? Curious as to if it reacts to the game

[near hornet]

Not really a “funny” item but I think they should add knuckle dusters for medium

[harsh wasp]

I had a few suggestions for guns and a melee in my head, have a list:

Light:
A Stun Baton (sounds a little too crazy)
And an FN Five Seven pistol

Medium:
A B&T MP9 and the VZ-61 Skorpion because i think mediums also need some smgs

And for the Heavy:
A Desert Eagle XIX
And call me out for this but i think there should be an AA-12 with an 8 round box magazine (it may just be a good alternative to the SA1216 if you cant kill someone with a whole tube)

[remote turtle]

but do we really need more guns?

[ebon garden]

does the glitch trap also disable your own things or just enemy ones?

[cosmic harbor]

I think some of the mediums weapons need to change, because right now the fcar is undoubtably the best medium weapon, which is evident by how its run by 90% of all mediums. What makes the fcar the best is that its viable in all ranges, has incredible dps, amazing accuracy, and its only downside is its magazine size which is easy to overcome. The fcar needs to be nerfed, and not with some annoying damage fall off or bloom. I think a damage reduction would be best. The fcar being strong isn't the only thing that makes it the best however, the revolver and shotgun being too weak are also what makes it so commonly used, (i don't mention the akm, because i believe it to be a balanced weapon, the only reason its not used much is because of how objectively better the fcar is). The revolver for starters is so unnecesarily nerfed, the iron sight on its own isn't too bad, but then it has damage fall-off and bloom. I can understand with the revolver having a 2x headshot multiplier that you wouldn't want it to be easy to abuse this, so I suggest reducing this to 1.5x and then removing the bloom and damage fall-off (or make fall-off incredibly minor). the shotgun was done dirty because it couldn't decide how good to be in close and mid range and so just ended up being trash at both. for starters, why is there a 2-3 second animation that can't be cancelled by firing when tactical reloading, it's very weird how abnormally long it is. The damage of the shotgun isn't bad, but its pellet spread is. The spread is such that half are at the centre and then the rest are spread weirdly far outwards, this makes using the shotgun at any range other then close instantly do at least 50% less damage. Because of its time to kill its hard to win fights in close range, so making it guranteed to do less damage beyond close is unfair. This feedback is something that I believe will be a massive benefit to balancing the medium meta and making it viable to use a weapon other than the fcar.

[dark echo]

absolutely on point

[west blade]

1887 is like busted good

you can oneshot lights if you follow up with a melee attack

[glossy zinc]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[rapid flicker]

Both are good, depends on your playstyle

[little oyster]

Yes I agree

[rapid flicker]

riot shield is pretty good too

[little oyster]

I like LH1

[fringe socket]

Devs, please add a real shotgun into the game for mediums, the old ass 1887 is shitty at best, at worst, it's completely unusable, and it just doesn't look nice, idk, maybe make a double barrel for the medium as well, just make it slower but have better range than the shi, or a Winchester 1897 (trench gun), the current 1887 sucks massive balls,

[hollow hound]

fcar has higher dps, akm can do more damage per mag

fcar also has an easier recoil pattern

so it depends on if you're going to be spamming or taking duels as well as personal preference

[glossy zinc]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[obsidian trench]

Any tips on how to more effectively use the sledgehammer? I feel like I struggle to close distance on other members in the match, I can usually get about 8 kills a match but what to get better, Mostly my kills are against medium or lights especially while they are not paying attention, kinda wish its had a faster swing recovery or a more forward motion with the swing

Not to meantion it seems like even medium build can walk backwards faster than I can swing forwards at them causing near misses but misses non the less, and if I miss I'm basically toast

[glossy zinc]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[obsidian trench]

Yeah, I know the mesh shield helps but this makes me slower then I already am, I dont necessarily thing the damage should be buffed but I think its swing time recovery should be decreased, 95% of players I come across feel like I just get deleted by one guy as I'm hitting him, either swing time recovery buff or a more forward motion on his attacks, seems like all the close range weaponry is inconsistent

Do 60 dmg at point blank center mass with the double barrel, I even did some simple testing with its pellet spread, it says wide but its not that bad, about the size of a soccer ball from ~20 feet, problem is aiming or just firing from the hip is the exact same, ADS for more accuracy with the db seems like a time waster, if your run & gun/hip fire accuracy is decent its better to do that it seems

[covert snow]

Use goo gun to trap ennemies, then run at them (you'll find plenty of videos of people doing that on youtube) or use the charge & slam to close off distance

[obsidian trench]

Never thought of using the goo gun with sledge hammer since it doesn't break easy with the sledge hammer, Ill have to try this

I do use it with the flamethrower though, Essentially have a fire wall, when I hear people coming I light my goo wall up and sometimes surprise them. I also use a lot of mines to run away and escape chases with sledge hammer, but I will watch some guides thankyou

[restive plover]

yoo

[graceful pagoda]

Guys is it just me or the Fizzy Tiger skin is hella weird? The recoil is all over the place

[formal lion]

How dare you claim the shotgun is weak.

I have never been so offended in my life. The 1887 is actually DISGUSTING. Also, FCAR could probably use a damage reduction. 26 to 25 wasn't a hit that affected the damage thresholds. 24 would, it'd be interesting to test that.

But I wouldn't claim the 1887 is anyway not up to snuff. The skill ceiling is just much higher and the skill floor is much lower than AK or FCAR.

[dusky bramble]

lower than the fcar??

[golden adder]

Any gun that’s great close quarters and outranges everything but a sniper shouldn’t be putting out even 20 damage a shot

[flat birch]

GUNS IDEA
I have an idea for the game, since we already bought everything in the weapons store and the vrs is no longer useful, I propose an idea to spend the vrs on xp for the weapons, that is, unlock weapon skins with the vrs since the vrs in a future will stop being useful since we bought everything, in fact I already have everything and the vrs is of no use to me, so I propose that the vrs can be spent on weapon xp and also an idea of adding a new weapon, a crossbow for the character with agility with great damage, the crossbow takes a long time to reload, and a simple bow for the medium one that shoots arrows with a normal speed and takes damage depending on how long I left it stretching the arrow, it will do more damage, for the big guy a new rocket but it is a cannon and it takes too long to reload but it makes everything explode and it can make holes in buildings or houses

[restive plover]

Or pauses the cash out for a few seconds.

[whole imp]

another good idea for a gadget would be a stim- like stimpack but boosts speed and recovery rather than just bulk health

DRUGS MAN

[slender magnet]

The skin affects recoil?

[timid plume]

Weapon and Gadget Ideas

Light:

• Healthgrenade (healing 50 HP for all Mates in range)
• Hacksystem (hack one enemy gadget like torret, shields, aps etc and let them work for you)
• Camera

Medium:

• Burstweapon like a Famas
• Techbow
• M4 Silenced
• M4 with Grenadelauncher (less Bullet and Grenadedamage)
• Mortar (gadget)

Heavy:

• Desert Eagle
• Elephant killer gun
• Slow Grenade

[slender magnet]

That defeats the purpose of being strategic with coin usage in ranked as anyone can just retreat and heal quickly.

[restive plover]

Man if we had a famas I would use it all day every day even if it sucked.

[soft juniper]

Maybe it pauses it and makes it so no one can take it basically it’s a match Staller

[ebon tapir]

mortar is crazy lol

if we add bows light should get an ordinary bow and medium should get a repeating crossbow with less damage

[restive plover]

Heavy should get the longbow and light the crossbow.

[nimble crane]

a sentry meant to take out sentrys that's meant to take out sentrys

[dawn granite]

If we had llamas I would use them every day too even if they spit

[cosmic harbor]

i notice a lot of people making new gun suggesons, however I don't. think this is the best idea. quality over quantity. I don't think more weapons should be added for the sole sake of adding a new weapon, and before the idea of new weapons is suggested i thinkthat all the current ones should be properly balanced first

[timid plume]

there are 9 weapons for light and 6 for medium and heavy. how u want to balance the weapons for equality? there are weapons for different situations. a sword will be never as good as a scar at range, so u need different weapons for different situations. they will never be all equal, cause they are made for different situations and different playstyles.

[cosmic harbor]

i believe there is a big difference between balanced and equal. I personally think that to have all weapons balanced means that they are all viable options. Currently i would say this is not the case, as seen with the fcar meta.

[timid plume]

this will never happen, cause there are meleeweapons in the game. u cant make them really viable. u can just add more options

[queen turret]

yes add every single gun that was ever invented

[wispy drift]

What’s the best class right now and gadgets and medium small or big 👍👍👍?

[timid plume]

all classes are good if they fit your playstyle. played the game now for over 500hrs and its not about the classes, its about how u play them. in ranked u will find most lights with cloak, mp5/m11, stun gun, fraggrenade, glitchgrenade. medium with heal, scar/ak, jumppad/zip line, defibrilator, grenades/mines. heavys with shield, lewis gun/shotgun, rpg, c4, dome shield. this is the meta atm

[wispy drift]

Dam you put time for that response appreciate it what class do you play ?

[timid plume]

I really play and enjoy every class. Normally i pick what is needed for a good lineup. As light u need to deal with low hp and try to avoid gettin hits. Mapawareness and gamesense is important, cause fails will lead to death. Medium overall allows more fails. Heavy got nice defense and biggest damage with rpg, c4 and Lewisgun/shotgun. If you are new, i guess Medium is the best Option in my mind.

[graceful pagoda]

Yes. I made a comparison between the Evanescence and the Fizzy. I have to ADS to Fizzy to control the recoil....

[burnt gyro]

perfect or even lower fcar firerate

[burnt gyro]

like the vrs idea but i dont think a bow would fit in

[flat birch]

The bow is a surprise how they edit it and make it, maybe they make the bow comfortable enough to attack and if people don't like it then they don't use it and that's it.

[glossy badger]

lol

[kind cosmos]

grenade launcher=good

[lament sail]

Finals is the best!

[normal solstice]

Looks like u want be level 1 hahaha

[verbal jacinth]

When are we getting the katana skin man

[graceful pagoda]

[rose scarab]

I almost got every single gadget just 3 more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[upper thorn]

i just finished buying the whole light market

[lavish glacier]

Best gun is for light

[soft juniper]

depends on playstyle

[slow lance]

Mp5

[warm swallow]

burst would be cool

[soft juniper]

Long Range: LH1 (Sniper if your good at headshots)
Short Range: M11 (Sword if your feeling ballsy)
All A rounder: XP

[warm swallow]

xp54 for sure

[midnight hinge]

Please please pleeeease make a gas mask gadget

[royal crag]

Yeah gas mask would be amazing. But I guess it's not really worth it to waste a spot

I mean you could just throw a molly and the gas is gone. So why waste a slot?

[elder portal]

No need for it

You can counter gas with fire

[graceful pagoda]

Sniper for heaviesssss

[midnight hinge]

Yes but then to countwr the fire you need smoke and as soon as its smoked it can get gassed again, so a gasmask should be addes to counter this

[midnight hinge]

yesh you throw a molly to counter gas but then to wate a smoke to counter the fire in which another gas grenade can be thrown in and the cycle continues

[elder portal]

Get the idea but don’t think so

[royal thicket]

What in the actual fuvf? Why would you want that?

[chilly turret]

make a boltgun for heavies (somewhat joking)

I want to be a space marine, dammit

[trail depot]

barricade broken

[jade lance]

Wow so cool!

[primal orbit]

Healing Bomb
I can share my details 🙂

[modest moth]

Healing bomb would go crazy or any sort of heal really

i guess thats the point of medium thou

[primal orbit]

If you run away for a while, you run out of health, so it can be a nice balancing act.

[jade lance]

guys can u heal me with ur love

im dying

[reef sage]

How about a crossbow for light or medium?

[obsidian island]

what makes the it different from existing guns?

[reef sage]

It's a crossbow, it shoots pointy sticks

[obsidian island]

mechanically different

why would it not be a worse CL, or a worse LH1 (depending on which route you go)

[reef sage]

Hmm, how about flaming bolts? Cool stuff

[thorny saddle]

Guys new here, what’s the meta gun and gadgets for Medium build

[lucid rivet]

Whatever you enjoy

[soft juniper]

Honestly any weapon is good but everyone gravitates to the Full autos or what ever weapons TTK is the fastest and easiest to achieve

So you will see a lot of Mediums Constantly running “Fcar” but some still run the “AK”

I always tell this to everyone who asks “Best Weapon or gadgets” slowly try out everything because you will find a play style you like and find your preferred gadgets and weapon/weapons you will use

[thorny saddle]

Cheers I’ll keep that in mind

[crystal pecan]

I personally like to always have smoke grenades and defib if im medium, i can smoke for cover or to put out a fire and the defib always helps w quick rez’s, it only restores half health when rez’d tho so a healing beam is always a nice thing to have equipped too

Althought the turret is helpful aswell

[still root]

more guns

[vagrant sundial]

more maps

[mint karma]

U gotta be careful when adding more healing to the game tho

[soft juniper]

Mediums don’t get smoke Grenade to my knowledge

[late lark]

ye

[lilac crown]

sword

[mighty prism]

sword

[broken coyote]

Make it so you can add attachments to a gun like a sight, laser, foregrip, psecial ammo, and more, but they only unlock with teh gun levels. Also can you make more levels for guns as It seems pretty easy to get through

[tiny iris]

yo

[lavish stump]

I love the ak to your point about playstyles that’s still fits me the best

[brittle meadow]

I've always thought of it as "FCAR if you can aim" and "AK if you can't"

[versed oxide]

make throwing knives better

[soft juniper]

But if you can aim then stay on the AK for more ammo

[fierce hull]

has meta changed for mediums? AK, Heal gun, defib?

[soft juniper]

Well with Defib getting nerfed so the respawned immunity was dropped to .75 sec I have seen some people drop it completely but some people still run it just look at defibing someone in a safe location

[fierce hull]

what was the nerf?

[stone rampart]

I think we should give the defibs 100 damage

it would be very silly and it's pretty hard and stupid to use them on an enemy anyway

either that or the taser effect

[chilly turret]

I picked up the FCAR because there’s no big, slow, heavy rifle (I want a bolter-esque weapon)

[low ember]

need a medium DMR weapon in my life

[ocean lava]

I think mediums should get smokes to better get heals and revives off

Dosnt really make sense for the light to have it when they already have cloak

[low ember]

fr smokes being locked to light makes it so useless

[primal orbit]

If you get the balancing right, we don't have optimization problems.

[soft juniper]

When you revive people the Respawn invisibility Defibs give is only .75 sec no longer 1 sec

[analog sandal]

FCAR is fine

[soft juniper]

wish kill cam was in the game I come across so many sus aim players under very sus conditions

[lost blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIiGy-qEv7I&t=2s&ab_channel=holo

[cosmic harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-meme-bald-guy-staring-gif-16652283412331227052

[mellow forge]

defib kills are so shameful xDD

[silver frigate]

same here

[outer fulcrum]

The 1887 could use a slight boost in attack speed, as it’s slow one requires lightesque dodging, however this would be a good transition to medium from light, which would result in a health boost and honestly a gadget boost.

[formal lion]

Medium mobility already competes with Light as is. That attack speed boost would cause large balance issues with the gun, especially with how hard it can hit AND with the amount of mobility in the game.

[slim hatch]

the shotguns in this game don't need a buff right now 😭
(well, the db shotgun is crippled to the ground rn so that actually might need a change) the heavy's shotgun def needs a nerf tho, wont last a second in the near vicinity

[formal lion]

Facts. Anybody who thinks the 1887 needs a buff doesn't know how to use medium movement tbh

[pliant badge]

build L?

[sour adder]

Only thing the 1887 needs is for it’s reload to be more consistent in terms of how many shells you have to reload before you can shoot again.

No other buffs necessary.

[potent vine]

I agree i wish kill cams were in the game too as well as a mini map of some sort to help new players, and for people saying the 1887 needs a buff your wrong i main the 1887 as of recently coming off of light and it hits like a truck you just dont know how to use it i feel like its perfectly fine where its at with no nerf or buff needed

[urban gulch]

is it true that they removed a lot of gadgets from heavy and light?

[soft juniper]

What do you mean? Like recently or since the beta?

[modern blade]

not that im aware of, no

[ocean lava]

I feel like they need a different Crosshair for shotguns as the standard one is a bit confusing at times to dictate spread

That it make static crosshairs like CS

[soft juniper]

I kinda hope we can get more crosshair options because I prefer running only dot or making my crosshair smaller and closer to the dot

[restive plover]

Would be nice if embark wasn't so arbitrary about custom crosshairs.

[forest delta]

Can I share some skin ideas here?

[mortal saffron]

Oh, how I need a nerf to Shocker, since I only play with daggers, and against me there are people with Shocker, and I have no chance of surviving, since I don’t even have time to shoot once

[pearl wadi]

In fanwork

[stone rampart]

so true

[lost blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHqrf6kRysM&ab_channel=holo

[daring quiver]

can the grenade launcher please get reworked. game is no longer fun cause its just a bunch of healer bombing everything. game is now ruined

[hoary trout]

its been since release like that wym.

[chilly turret]

Tried the FCAR and damn it slaps very very hard

[sonic heron]

So people have talked about vehicles before. My solution is to give Mediums a Go Kart as a gadget they can place that two people on the team can ride on. Imagine the tomfoolery.

[stone rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/detroit-become-human-detroit-androids-public-opinion-up-gif-21880077

oh yeah thats right no gifs in here :(

[chilly turret]

are you suggesting we do drive-by’s with an RPG

[soft juniper]

Sounds like a skill issue

[sonic heron]

That is what I am suggesting yes

[wraith marlin]

1

[sonic heron]

Light stun needs reworked. It is an ohko on some weapons and useless on others

It should not lock you in place. Make it have decent damage and stop steals without the movement lock