💣┇weapons-gadgets

[slim hatch]

gas is better
until someone touches it with a little bit of fire OR just heals/tanks through the damage.

glitch is better imo when theres multiple people with healers/tanks that constantly heal and send out rpgs into everyone's faces

Plus glitch can't really be disabled/stopped per say, just avoided or ran away from (which is nice for giving you a bit more time)

gas can also backfire more if you're attempting to locate who is stealing/in the gas

[solemn sierra]

add a reflection gadget to reflect the nukes thank you for my ted talk

[bright hill]

It is dumb that a player with 47 hrs on the sniper only has it blue, more xp !

[proper halo]

I have a solution for you because I was having this issue. Go to your contestants page, delete the bugged loadout and recreate from a clean template. Reselect your main items, spec and reserve, and equip ur skins. It should work and save without issues.
I did this to fix a charm that kept re-equipping itself after I removed it from my gun many times. This proccess fixed it definitively for me.

[small anchor]

fortnite battle pass

[harsh condor]

https://www.youtube.com/live/ybTYOCYTuVM?si=6S25uXiemeD_8x3f

[broken flax]

im not sure if its just me or not but i somehow have all my unlocked light shotgun skins equipped

im not sure how i did it but i cant unequip them

[outer kraken]

Will there be a new plat skin when season 2 comes out?

[orchid mountain]

ASD

[restive plover]

Slt les fr

[orchid mountain]

HI

[calm verge]

ok ill give it a shot thanks

[orchid mountain]

[static plover]

I think it would be a good idea to nerf the double barrel shotgun to the point where it shoots marshmallows

[vocal copper]

What equipment do people use with riot shield?

[spark canyon]

It lasts like 10 seconds, it's long but doesn't stop people from shooting back at you

Which is usually the worst thing they can do to ruin your day (filling your head full of bullets)

[warm lion]

i like turret and mines

[spark canyon]

I prefer gas mine because it forces people to move away from it or even sprint (thus preventing them from shooting back at me) not to mention it can kinda act as an impromptu smoke bomb since it's so opaque

[warm lion]

glitch is too short duration to be used defensively

[spark canyon]

Glitch trap is usually better served by using a glitch grenade (though that would force you to play light) while you get more gas mines than you would gas grenades so it has an advantage over its grenade counterpart

[spark canyon]

You can say a lot of things about glitch, but the duration being short is not one of them. If I recall it lasts for 10 seconds which is more than enough to find the enemy who is glitched and then murder them ruthlessly

The problem is, we're not usually all that reliant on our gadgets and specializations to kill people

[warm lion]

exactly

[spark canyon]

So the enemy can still pretty consistently win a fight against you while they are glitched

If anything it's almost a benefit to their damage output because they don't have gadgets to misuse when they should just be shooting

Glitch is the most reliable way to prevent a Defibrillator revive though if you can manually detonate it as the medium approaches

[boreal laurel]

Same

Also I’m surprised to hear that there are other people in the world who like riot shield besides me

[spark canyon]

Riot shield is cool

[boreal laurel]

Very 😎

[vocal copper]

Do sensors reveal cloaked enemies? I thought glitch was mainly to shut down melee users

[spark canyon]

I use it most to shut down barriers, defibrillators, and just heavies in general

[soft juniper]

I just never come into situation where glitch is useful even as a light

[spark canyon]

It's usually barriers

The big glowy shields, whatever they're called

[soft juniper]

Mesh or dome

[spark canyon]

Yeah those things

[soft juniper]

But I’m seeing alot less mesh shied these days

[spark canyon]

And for stopping a Heavy from RPG instakilling you

But Stun can do that just as well

[trim saffron]

it’s good from stoping a push onto cash out

[spark canyon]

So can two frag grenades though

[boreal laurel]

If you play Quick Cash, your team will be forever grateful if you glitch all the gas mines on every cashout…

[trim saffron]

true, i usually follow up with frags

[spark canyon]

You can just use pyro for the same effect though

[soft juniper]

With my luck so far I’ve barely ever had to use glitches so I just been using some other stuff

[spark canyon]

Maybe you need to get more creative and try and use glitches more often as an engagement tool or a defensive tool

Just make a habit of glitching people whenever you have the opportunity and notice how it changes the results of some encounters

You can also glitch utility placeables such as turrets, mines, APS, even just straight up delete dome shields

And the 10 second duration means you can steal a cashout through mines and C4 for instance

I would say it has enough utility to be worth taking, especially in team play

[trim saffron]

as light i like to always have my glitches and frags on cooldown as using them as much as possible is best, like hero said using it for engagement and defense is extremely effective. also glitching someone behind a box when you have height and fragging them right after is a sure fire way to get them off said box

[spark canyon]

And that its utility is distinct enough from stun gun to make it worth taking both

IMO anyways, I tend to play a more team-oriented Light

[trim saffron]

i feel like light is best played away from the team but still playing off of the team

i.e scouting from a roof or 2 away while invis to give you team early info on pushes

[spark canyon]

You kinda have to orbit your Medium-Heavy combo

[trim saffron]

LLH is an extremely good combo for offensive play but MML is probably my favorite combo right now as the scouting and support is insane with it

[spark canyon]

imo an MHL team is honestly the best because of the variety of tools

You have more options than a team without a given build

Especially with heal beam, mesh shield, and dash specs imo

[trim saffron]

light can get easy frags with either dash or invis (dash would be better if your med is running recon as you have no reason to scout) and med can 2 heal or run 1 heal 1 recon

[spark canyon]

Dash spec synergizes pretty well with mesh and heal beam

[night oxide]

I’ve found MMM or MMH works best for me

[trim saffron]

true but i feel like heavy isn’t all that useful in most parts of play, besides from bringing a cash out down or throwing the occasional shield i just don’t see the appeal over 2 heals or recon + heal

[spark canyon]

Invis is kinda counter synergy with heal beam since the heal beam can reveal your position (though ofc your med could just know not to heal you when invis)

I feel like dash is better tbh, especially since we have invis bomb to replicate some of the invis utility

[spark canyon]

C4 nukes are very powerful and the Heavy's weaponry has fantastic DPS (particularly the shotgun)

[trim saffron]

MMM is really brown rn especially with the recon meta

[night oxide]

Eh I don’t prefer recon, what’s so special ab it?

[spark canyon]

Having the sheer explosive power of a Heavy makes walls, floors and ceilings more of a suggestion

[soft void]

literally wallhacks

[spark canyon]

And the shields are pretty nice so your Med with heal beam can top everyone off safely

[trim saffron]

true but i’d rather not rely on a nuke to be the reason i pick a heavy over someone else

[night oxide]

Hmm I’ll have to try it out, I use heal beam currently

[torn maple]

I love seeing lights as a heavy. The C4 nukes kill them from miles away. Don't even need to worry about throwing it right on them. RPG EZ. Explosive mines still wreck them. shotgun still wrecks them. LOVE it!

[spark canyon]

You pick a Heavy for the raw damage and survivability

Not just C4 nukes, not just RPG, not just the heavy weapons or the shields, but all of it combined

[trim saffron]

being able to see everyone at any point (literally just walls) is extremely good for either finding where to go next (which cash out has nobody on it) or when a push is coming, or to chase the last enemy on a team

[spark canyon]

It's not like you only pick Med for the wallhacks, you also pick them for defibrillator, jump pad, and their high damage long range weapons

Same applies to Light and Heavy, you want the whole package

[trim saffron]

fair, i just feel heavy gets outclassed by medium at most points in play but it could be different depending on the ranks or play style since im g1 and 99% solo queue

[torn maple]

M healer, M recon, H w/e as long as they have C4 and RPG. Ez team. Feels like cheating when you face teams with lights

[spark canyon]

If a Heavy and a Medium are straight fighting each other, the Heavy wins 9 times out of 10

He has more HP, his weapons deal more damage, and his gadgets give him EVEN MORE damage

[trim saffron]

true but a lot of fights aren’t 50s if taken right

[spark canyon]

Yeah Medium is definitely the strongest class in the game

But Heavy has a place in the same way that Light has a place

[trim saffron]

true, i can definitely see how heavy is viable but from my experience as a solo queue my preferred team comp is MML

[spark canyon]

Most players' preferred team comp seems to be MMH

Against an MML comp the heavy can just pull out his RPG and make it a 3v2

[trim saffron]

MMH is most definitely better for 3 or even 2 stacked teams but i wouldn’t recommend it for solo queue

[spark canyon]

In solo queue I like MMM

Because it's pretty obvious how everyone should support each other

[versed mulch]

is there a way to pull out a gadget faster on console?

[trim saffron]

well that’s if the light is an idiot, as a light you should never be taking 50s especially not against a heavy, that’s what stun and glitch is for

[trim saffron]

directional equipping i’m pretty sure it’s called

[spark canyon]

Most solo queue lights are idiots in my experience

[versed mulch]

can i bind the gadgets to the dpad?

[trim saffron]

they’re already bound to dpad

[spark canyon]

At least a heavy who is an idiot has enough time to do something if you shove enough heals up his ass

But a light who's an idiot just ends up getting farmed the whole game

If YOU are the Light I can see why you would rather have a Medium on your team than a Heavy because the Medium supports you and the Heavy doesn't in the same way

[trim saffron]

i can 100% agree, but as i’ve been getting to higher ranks i see less dumb lights and more people are using their mic

[spark canyon]

When you're a Light playing with a Heavy the Heavy feels way too slow to help you at all

You already ended the fight by the time the Heavy even got there

[trim saffron]

yup, i’m a light main but i fill medium if needed so that answers most of that

[spark canyon]

I think competent heavies are fun to play with as a medium

High ranked heavies feel very impactful and often top the leaderboard for kills and damage

I feel like the raw explosive damage and staying power gives heavy a unique utility that the other builds don't have, so there's a reason to have him alongside other builds

[trim saffron]

yea definitely, heavy i feel is best with a premade team but alone with heavy isn’t great at all and just weighs you down more than anything, since half the time they went even there to be in the fight as they’re so slow

[covert holly]

Good on top

Goo*

[ancient thistle]

Is the MGL worth running on Heavy?

[soft juniper]

I forgot what gun the MGL is

[atomic warren]

i think that medium should be able to use c4 because both other classes have it

do yall agree

[soft juniper]

Wait I remember that weapon I will say its more on the fun side if you learn how it shoots it can be useful but its more of a Fun value

[soft juniper]

kinda yes kinda no if they did it would have to be stronger then breach but weaker then C4

[atomic warren]

because i love playing light because you can drop cashouts through floors and that would be so fun as a medium so you can help out your team

because thats what medium is all about

[soft juniper]

well medium has alot of support power that other classes dont have so if they got a way to break through walls easily Medium would end up becoming the only class in the game thats played so im gona go back on what I said and say No its not needed

[viral rune]

I think frag nades can break walls

[soft juniper]

they can but I think they take like both of them depending on the damage of the structure

but for me as a medium I like going full Healer with Defib, Sonar, and either movement Gadget

[vernal tinsel]

is weapon xp based on damage or kills/assists?

[arctic scroll]

toss explosive mines on ceiling and blow them up. essentially a breaching charge. works for me all the time. drop cashouts right into my lap

[split urchin]

k

[soft juniper]

a single mine cant destroy a wall you have to use 2 and thats to much

[pliant cipher]

sus

[proud parcel]

After you thow like 8 of them. You need to throw a mine and then throw a frag.

[hybrid quail]

pls add a gas mask man

[orchid mountain]

[dawn parcel]

how do you detonate a C4 on controller?

[quick grove]

orange team in las vegas sandstorm is a nightmare like wtf

[quick grove]

R2 or RT depends on binds

[hallow python]

plat med LF team, i play defib and heals

oops

[ember haven]

Grapple hooks could totally have a skin. Just sayin

[random crypt]

That would be pretty cool if they did

[ember haven]

Silly string grappling hook

[random crypt]

Chain? Idk

[ember haven]

Like Scorpion yeah

[ocean osprey]

It would be cool if you could change the sounds of a weapon

[ember haven]

That is true

[ocean osprey]

Make the pistol go "pew pew"

[ember haven]

Honestly, with the excuse of a VR game tournament the game could stand to be a lot more customizable or diverse in cosmetics for stuff like weapons.

It's not like you're going to notice a differently shaped foam grenade right? So no fear of pay2win cosmetics in that sense

Also. More load outs please

[wild ether]

remove defib

[hearty lake]

no

[wild ether]

enjoy your downvote, kid

[hearty lake]

sure thing harmlessbat!!!!

[gusty crag]

Has anyone had the same issue with gas/frame grenades under throw? Like falls from the hand😑 The game seriously needs to fix this.

[quaint shard]

What is best gadget for medium class?Opinion?

I mean specialization sorry

[turbid perch]

Really depends, but turret is a good bet usually

[quaint shard]

Agree

[soft juniper]

For me its heal beam I come across more situation where its more useful I would use Recon but I got Sonar Granades for that

[plush tulip]

Agreed, it being a “vr simulation” this game can literally have anything in it

[shut kettle]

j

[empty kindle]

what is the amount of money you have payed for skins in the finals

[soft juniper]

true Steam boat willy is public domain let put that in the game

[plush tulip]

Exactly

And then Disney will swiftly come after this game in fury

[soft juniper]

depends on the look you want but for one of the Store bundle outfits you might be looking at $20+ or if you want you can buy the battle pass and get the outfits there you will just need to grind the game

[soft juniper]

why stop there lets get Nintendo on embarks ass lol

[plush tulip]

Getting killed by the Mario brothers and peach

[warm lion]

what the hell is bro on

[soft juniper]

But all jokes aside seeing some cool weapons or gadgets that are crazy since it’s vr based would be cool like make the flash bang have a skin where it’s just a light bulb or gas mine that looks like a Whoopie cushion that makes a fart sound when it goes off

The game can be serious but people would laugh at the dumb skins we could get

[turbid perch]

Call of duty tried this and suffered

[warm lion]

yeah cause call of duty is sort of supposed to be serious real life shit
not vr

[true orchid]

You probably just right clicked, that is the button to throw downwards

[serene crystal]

I'm trying to use the goo grenade more but last night I threw it twice while my team mate was capping and it pushed them off and restarted the timer. Is this a normal interaction? I was watching streamers and I thought that they were just covering the cap in goo to protect it

[trim saffron]

that’s just an issue on where you’re throwing it

[serene crystal]

Have any tips? I'll watch some more videos thanks

[trim saffron]

just throw it a little away from the cash out and not right on it, it’s used mostly to just block the main LOS from enemies

[serene crystal]

Thank you 😎

[molten marsh]

Anyone need help?

[bitter pulsar]

how to make teammate burn enemies instead of me

[frank portal]

Are there different sounds in the game when enemy hit me in a body and in a head?

[harsh hound]

Heeeee

[radiant python]

@restive plover ?

[molten marsh]

If you're playing a team-based game and you want to strategize with your teammates to make them draw enemy attention or "burn" enemies instead of you, communication and coordination are key.

[molten marsh]

In many video games, especially first-person shooters and third-person shooters, game developers implement different sound effects to distinguish between hits on different body parts. The intention is to provide players with audio feedback that can convey information about the severity or location of the impact.

[crimson zodiac]

طيب

[elder ice]

Wish there was a way to balance having multiple classes running the same gadgets.

2x Heavy team running domes/barrier should have the HP reduced so that they cant just stack on each other and be 2x effective. 2x Meds running heal beams should have reduced rate and not be able to double-heal a single person.

Encourage variety in loadouts and force better gameplay

[ashen siren]

Ranked should just not allow 2 players of the same class to use the same specialization tbh

[elder ice]

Specialization is less of a big deal than gadgets are. Im thinking more of items like mines, to be honest. But a team that just stacks barriers/mines is impossible to counterplay since running a Light soley for Glitch nade is a throw pick.

[verbal apex]

I mean an APS turret should take care of mines and such well too. Several layers of mesh and dome shields get annoying tho

I don’t know if nerfing an already underperforming class is a good argument though

[dusty flare]

APS turrets are def the way to go

[elder ice]

Or maybe give Medium access to Glitch nade too... but that kinda renders Lights even more useless

[ashen siren]

I’m fine with the gadgets being used 2/3x (besides dome shield) - now you can counter 2/3enemies gadgets with 1 counter instead of having to counter 2 different gadgets

My issue is double recon, triple healing beam, triple turret, double/triple mesh shield

[ashen siren]

Been saying this - glitch trap seems downright worthless although I never actually tried it. Just seems easy for enemy to avoid

[elder ice]

I feel like Recon Sense could be balanced by either increasing the cost/CD time for toggle activations, or make it be a single use CD with set duration and recharge time.

It's too easy to toggle activate and maintain high uptime with good regen for how impactful it can be.

[ashen siren]

Been saying this as well! Once you pop it, it drains fully and has to recharge. No toggling.

Get out of my brain 😂

[elder ice]

Ultimately I just want abilities/specs to require more thought per use.

If you commit to Recon Sense and no ones near you to take advantage from, too bad. You're fucked for when they actually push in and you can't pre-aim

[ashen siren]

Yup, make the specialization feel like it needs to be treated special and not just used all willy-nilly

[restive plover]

Feels like only recon suffers from that

Everyone else feels fine, recon is just Björked

[terse raptor]

Does anyone else who is on controller think the v95 should have full auto to make it viable on controller

[kind warren]

Machete variant for the sword wen?

[fringe steppe]

No.

[terse raptor]

@fringe steppe Mkb player I assume. Have I assumed correctly?

[mild wing]

That would just make it significantly worse than the healing beam

Which would have impact at any time

[elder ice]

There are adjustments they could make to Beam too.

Reduce healing rate/capacity, have it expend resource when channeled (as in pre-healing someone at full HP), have the beam break when dropping LoS, reduce the range that it locks onto someone.

[tropic stirrup]

swap triggers with bumpers, feels so much better to shoot

[warm lion]

i mean honestly heal beam really has some obscene range

[terse raptor]

I'll try it out but I think it would mess with my mucle memory during other games

[eternal wigeon]

This can happen when you have an object just below or in front of the throwable

[warm lion]

you can heal a dude 2-3 floors down

[rugged stratus]

You can also grab people's statues from an insane distance

I saw someone grab a guy from across the room

At least it looked like that

[patent zinc]

Does tracking dart show up for teammates?

[teal lance]

If you hit the enemy yes

[patent zinc]

Cool thank you

[clever geode]

A one shot but very high aim down sights sniper for medium

[terse raptor]

That would outclass lights sniper too much its just the same as lights but better

[sturdy pebble]

medium bow or xbow would be sick

[ember echo]

coc reference?

[sturdy pebble]

excuse me

[sullen tree]

I wish they would make throwing knives high skill and useful instead of just garbage

[terse raptor]

I love that idea as long as the bow isn't hit scan

[vernal tinsel]

I wish they'd fix the throwing knives xp

[sullen tree]

yea, same. I also wish they would fix the dagger

[paper dagger]

Anyone know what gadget to use for light

[gray spire]

All of them

[vernal tinsel]

I like to use the inspector

[storm fractal]

I use invis then use frag pyro and flash with mp5

Just dropped 25 kills no deaths

[restive plover]

defo id say sum cool u cud do is like atach a tracking device to an arrow kina like hanzo itd be cool ash

[dusty shore]

Had a gadget idea for heavy that I was wondering what others thought about it. I would love a gadget for heavy allowing them to pick up and move a cashout. I was thinking like a movers strap. Heavy would be slow and can't use any weapons or gadgets while useing it but could still use Jump pads and Zipline. Sometimes I just hate Cashout spawns and this could allow you to change that easier then goo gun, jump pad methods.

[warm lion]

you know that used to be a thing in the alpha
at least probably considering one of the earliest trailers

[bitter prism]

PLEASE add a Zipline gun model instead of the fortnite build sheet, like the icon is

[tame comet]

Gadget idea, a tiny R/C car that the entire team can get in but you all die if it gets destroyed. Like a clown car. Probably trash idea

[ocean comet]

Hey does anybody is good at guitar and can help me to figure out what is the table of the guitar’s hammer inspect

[restive plover]

Give Heavy a Railgun, slow charging gun that rips through walls doing around 140 damage.
Alternatively a Longbow, long draw time and slowed movement whilst drawn but it does 200 damage gotta arc it when you're really far away

Just a goofy longer ranged option

[junior urchin]

Can we just get a fat fucking Claymore as a reskin for the hammer? Same set of animation works

[restive plover]

Oh that's hot, yes please

[scarlet quiver]

This would make for a really funny Combat Spawn that lets dead players spawn on it instead of wherever else they spawn

Like imagine placing it 2 rooms away from a cash out and being able to consistently spawn on it instead of getting placed 300m away

[static lion]

Am i missing something or do the grenade launchers need a buff? I mean i understand its probably hard buffing them but i feel like rn they are borderline useless

[zenith bramble]

Nah, they’re op if the player knows angles and is good

[ivory dust]

R359 revólver considering it’s limited ammo count, should kill

Lights
Headshot: 1 (currently 2)
Chest:2 (currently 3)

Medium
Headshot: 2(currently 2)
Chest: 3 shots (currently 4)

Heavy
Headshot: 3(currently 3)
Chest: 4 (currently 5)

Killing everyclass except the light almost garantee you have to reload to engage on another fight, while other meta weapons do not suffer from the same

And while the FCAR is meta and usually needs to reload after Killing 1 player, it does not need you to have a precise aim like the revolver

“Are you insane? Killing a light With one HS?”

Dude that find this op is the same dude that stuns me while invis and “hit kill” me with his double barrel than run invis

[honest zinc]

Please nerf the SCAR. I don't want to use anymore it but have to to compete it feels like. Every time I go back to it I'm like, "wow this is way better than everything"

[ivory dust]

Same, I,m trying to use the revolver but as I input 2 bullets to the Chest the other dude puts 6 of the scar to mine, and i die.

Headshot or die

[karmic whale]

just dodge

[jovial ocean]

Biggest issue with scar for me is it's range. It feels like it outranges every other gun in mediums kit while also doing more damage

[kind warren]

Polishing what may be a new movement/firearm tech? Best of all it's usable with all three builds. Will report back here

[austere tulip]

I think a cool item that could appear around the map like vaults is a cube you could throw in a cash out that freezes the timer/ slows down the countdown or reverts a certain amount of time on the cashout this item would obviously be limited to excessive match time and should only spawn like once or twice a match

Another thing i feel could “spice up” the arena are vending machines in wich you could purchase things with your teams money such as canister,revive tokens,etc

[austere tulip]

There should be something to prevent grieving teams by limiting how many items you could purchase or giving teammates certain percentage of the team’s money you could spend etc

Ohh also you could buy company plugins like ospuse energy drink that gives you a speed boost

[plucky hazel]

That go against the spirit of this game

[austere tulip]

In what way

[plucky hazel]

Devs deliberately give you infinite ammo and no looting for a reason

Even your hp auto regen out of combat

[austere tulip]

You make a good point

I could see how it could overcomplicate things

[austere tulip]

In bank it you loot coins

[plucky hazel]

Its just running over the corpse you shot at

Maybe your idea of midgame buffs can be certain spots spawn buffs if someone run over it

[austere tulip]

Still a looting system plus the machine could be simple thing such as singular items with rng or something reminiscent of the crane controls

At the least i think it would be cool to see them lean into the sellout game show esthetic and see people drink ospuse for a buff or piking up holtow insurance to prevent loosing 30% of your money on squad wipe in ranked

Or something like that

[plucky hazel]

That sounds pretty doable

[austere tulip]

I like the idea of gambling with the money you’re earning

[plucky hazel]

Maybe make it when the vault unlocks the buff spews out

[austere tulip]

?

[plucky hazel]

So theres incentive to do so

[austere tulip]

Some spelling errors dunno what u trying to say

[austere tulip]

Thank u

Not bad idea especially since it gives more of an incentive to go for vaults instead of just camping cashouts

[old locust]

guys i cant use/ecuip a buyed weapon in game i just have the default ones is it bc im new?

[austere tulip]

Its a bug sometimes when you customize your loadout or cosmetics it doesn’t save just next time you’re in the lobby check your load out to see if the changes you made saved

[old locust]

its not even n the loadout to change ingame

[plucky hazel]

You need to be in the lobby

In game you can only change with your reserve loadout

[old locust]

oh nvm i think found it out

thanks a lot guys saved my evening 😘

[golden adder]

I don’t get why the game limits what guns/equipment you can take and straight up doesn’t let you swap anything mid-round in ranked.

[unborn thunder]

Bro The sawed-off shotguns are so overpowered they need a big nerf they litteraly 2 shot heavys

[proper tiger]

well heavys can deal 150 dmg in 2 seconds

and they have a god scared ROCKET LAUNCHER

Heavy should be focused on tanking not to burst uk

[inland breach]

Why am l allowed to run both Cloaking AND a Vanish bomb at the same time??? This is absurd, the uptime of on-demand invis is wild

[pale scaffold]

Can mines attach themselves to players Riot shields?/

[unreal nexus]

Cloak bomb dont make sound either

[warm lion]

cause cloaking isn't really that amazing

[elfin nest]

tell that to all the short dudes running around at mach 10 invisible with a butter knife

[hard plank]

because thats the point of the game... DUH

[warm lion]

skill issue

[elfin nest]

lmao ok bud, if its not that good why is most light classes ive seen using them? Like bro stfu lmao no one cares about your tiny (opinon)

[warm lion]

no it's facts clearly

[golden adder]

I don’t think the point of the game should be hoping you didn’t run a grenade launcher into APS turrets and not be allowed to do anything against it.

[hard plank]

you can bring weapons in your reserve slot

or just be an idiot like you clearly are, either works

[kind warren]

#🔴┇media-chat message rough draft for THE GRAVITY GAUGE movement/firearm tech

[golden adder]

Have you ever tried playing a ranked tournament?

[hard plank]

play many my man, and never had an issue with aps turrets, because I use a normal weapon

[golden adder]

Terrible argument just completely ignoring the issue.

It’s garbage game design to have guns with such hard counters you have to hope you’re lucky enough weren’t picked.

Rewarding luck and punishing skill/tactics by locking loadouts is bad for the game.

[hard plank]

you just suck imo

[golden adder]

You’re not worth talking to

[hard plank]

I never had a problem so cant be a game issue

if you dont like it you could just, play another game

[kind warren]

let's try to be respectful to one another here Yolks for Nama Tama's sake

[hard plank]

Bless

[lyric hound]

it would be cool to see some longer ranged options on medium/heavy like how the light has the sniper and the LH1. tbh im crossing my fingers they add a bow/crossbow situation for medium/light because that would be a blast i think

[muted orbit]

WHY KILL THE SHOTGUNS ON CONSOLE? SO WE ALL PLAY WITH THE SAME GUNS NOW???
Having ZOOM SNAPPING on ONLY SOME guns now is just killing the fun of using other guns than SCAR and AKM for M class.
GOOD JOB

if now even if you aim good, most of the pellets go out of the hitbox bro... before if you had good aim, you d zoom snap so u hit center mass..... now they removed the consistency that rewarded good aim

[golden adder]

Rooftop fcar is bad enough I also wouldn’t want more people to play like light snipers

[muted orbit]

Nah this patch was just dogshit on this ZOOM SNAPPING only on SOME guns now

so now as a SHOTGUN CONSOLE player, you have to aim for center of the body 100% yourself and Rifle users dont???? wheres the headshot pellets multiplier?

they fucked the shotgun so bad now, it was fun to use.. im just lucky i didnt get to buy the wrangler skin. was about to buy 1000 multibucks for that skin but now.. lol

only AKM and FCAR BORINNNNNG

I agree nerfing the AA creating a skill gap. but NO ZOOM SNAPPING at all on the shotgun. m1887 wasnt even meta. now its just unusable

i used to go shotgun mode on casuals when i wanted some relaxed fun gameplay.. jumpshots, movement between shots. now i just dont care to use any more gun.. even the REVOLVER was killed by this part of the patch

NERF AA OK. But there was absolutely NO NEED to kill SEMI guns in the process. who the fuck was abusing this already HARD META guns?? NO ONE

[warm lion]

sounds like a skill issue

[muted orbit]

yeah? how? u are all formatted mindset lol. give me arguments then

[warm lion]

having to aim for center of body 100% yourself is what m&k players do all the time
so skill issue

[muted orbit]

how is it a skill issue to want to be able to use different guns in a fresh new game? its just very biased now

[warm lion]

it's a skill issue because you're not playing on m&k
also because you can't aim without AA

lmao

[muted orbit]

u a noob boy. at least tell me i should aim for the head. but you know there is no headshot pellets multiplier for the shotguns..

[warm lion]

why would i tell you to aim for head when that doesn't do shit for shotguns
dummy

[muted orbit]

its a skill issue just because im playing controller? wtf i even play CROSSPLAY OFF bro

its just that now a m1887 wont have ANY chance against a FCAR

so youre giving 0 new information on why its a skill issue

cringe argument. yeah follow the rest of the sheeps MEEH MEEH -.-''

[warm lion]

ok person who misses their shots

[muted orbit]

kkkkkk see? you assuming something you dont know, you just dont see my point bro. im not trynna gain enemies or sum. you just a sheep

u never see me playing so assuming is a skill issue is CRINGE MINDSET bro. listen. they nerfed AA okay none against it. but pay attention to this part.
AA with being OP or being very shit, is okay if it was nerfed in the same degree for every gun right? im playing against players with the same context as me.
The thing is that they COMPLETELY REMOVED one of the AA features for ONLY some guns. understood now? i know you re not that smart but try

[muted orbit]

and you the "melee weapon main" kkkk i miss my shots and you dont even try to shoot xDDDDD

[warm lion]

Yeah, can't miss shots if I don't shoot 🧠

[muted orbit]

kkkkkkkkkk fkn noob xDD

[warm lion]

Says the guy relying on AA

[muted orbit]

only at the same degree like everyone else on my platform. once again your argument says 00000

[golden adder]

I can see why the zoom snapping was taken off for burst damage weapons. I have no experience with controller in this game so I don’t know what feels fair or not.

The tracking for the first shot is important so if it’s a full auto gun the snap is less impactful

[muted orbit]

i could deal with AA OFF for everyone. so now everyone has to manually aim regardless if using a scar or a m1887.. that would be ok for me

[warm lion]

Exactly
They should delete AA for everyone

[muted orbit]

yeah bro, i can understand that. maybe nerf it more than the other.. but completely remove it is just BAD. will make everyone use the same meta even more

[muted orbit]

yeah like for real, i truly think that is just impossible AA OFF with a controller would be a blind game xDDDD

thats why im probably moving to PC game is just better there. at home i play on my bros PC, i only have a console for now

[warm lion]

People gravitate to the meta anyway

[warm lion]

Praying you get a PC soon : 🙏

[muted orbit]

but now for console you ll only be able to do smething with rifles.. forget revolvers, foget shottys.. its not a skill issue, i didnt even used this guns on ranked they were already OFF META. its just that they making the game sweatier on console at least

i really think this is good DEVS behing the game, but this little feature on the patch fucked ALOT of the experience on console. now its just unfair to use other guns than the meta ones.. FCAR AKM or nothing else on M CLASS

[muted orbit]

yeah me too, on ranked. but now my casual gaming with the shotty is gone 😢

[golden adder]

I can’t really form an opinion without testing but all or nothing on the zoom snap probably feels jarring.

[muted orbit]

i can really tell because yesterday i was in shooting range with the m1887 and it felt good jumpshoting if you aim a little bit good almost on the target, zoom snapping would reward you. and now they completely removed this feature i was having fun yesterday

tuning my sens around it, now its gone.. NOW USING SAME GUN EVERY GAME IS BORING

its easy to understand. the most meta guns still have AA even if its less..
the FUN GUNS just dont have the most important feature for the AA now

it sucks but yeah ill adapt and use the sameee gun everyyy game

[winged ocean]

all I'm hearing is someone not using throwing knives 🗣🗣💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥💯🔥🗣⁉️🗣🔥💯🔥🔥🔥🗣🔥🗣‼️‼️🗣🗣⁉️⁉️💯⁉️💯⁉️⁉️

[muted orbit]

kkkkkkk

[muted orbit]

there are 2 ways devs could follow to re-balance the fun in the game on console:
1- completely remove zoom snapping on ALL the guns
2- come back with some minimal but at least some degree of zoom snapping for the shotguns and revolver

if not, the finals on console will only be about rifles

automatic rifles*

[charred tiger]

What does zoom snapping mean

[muted orbit]

on console when you aim at a player, if the crosshair is really near the enemie. ADS would put the crosshair on target.
now all guns do that except shotguns and revolvers lol

so they just killed the shotgun user @charred tiger

now even if i hit a shot with a shotgun it takes veryyy less damage than before. even if you aim good, wont be worth it

since i arrived home im trying to play shotgun and its just dead now. i was fighting a HEAVY guy .. he missed almost evey shot with lewis gun. and i hit evey 6 shots on the magazine. even in this scenario he still had half of his HP

its just impossible to play shotgun on console now believe me. it was hard before, now its just impossible without a mouse. its so unfair

so yeah now on console with shotgun there is NOOO point on ADS

not even aiming to the head is rewarding, no headshots multiplier on shotguns

for these reasons shotguns are just dead now, not worth it. they dont do almost ANY damage and im a decent player

i play double claw, GOLD 3 with almost only solo queueing that is so hard in this game. they always put me with some noobs BRONZES and UNRANKED guys. some of them dont even play half of the game they leave and i still lose points

that is another topic. solo queueing and points system is BAD too

game overall is good but these are some GAME BREAKING things

[storm flume]

The game will die quickly if these are the patches we're gonna get all the time

Shotguns on console are now useless because pc players won't stop bitching about nothing

[undone mountain]

Fr tho😂

[bold totem]

they just came back from xmas break and already fixed the aim assist issues. they also said a content patch is slated for next week, i think you are being a bit hasty with the call

[gilded ivy]

I just started playing yesterday and I'm already so tired of melee weapons

[viscid orchid]

Did you... buy one, or...?

[maiden thunder]

Sorry but they hella easy to counter

[gilded ivy]

Idk man anyone with a sword is just wiping the lobby

[muted orbit]

i think they nerfed AA that much because of the opinion PC players had after some people using REWASD but they forget that AA was not supposed to work with a mouse but with a fraking liny THUMBSTICK

[tame comet]

Any shotgun feels bad for melee players

[tame comet]

Rpg them

[gilded ivy]

👌🏼

[storm flume]

There weren't any aim assist issues to begin with, it's just the cycle of a game coming out and pc players jumping on the same dumb as fuck bandwagon of "oh no I'm getting clapped by people on console, better get my pitchfork and beg for them to nerf aim assist again wah wah wah"

every shooter that comes out with crossplay now is just going to be inundated with pc kids crying about something that isn't nearly as overpowered as they claim it to be, I have played hundreds of hours of shooters on both pc and console and the ease of use that a good mouse and keyboard gives you is night and day over using analog sticks, using your whole arm to finely tune and micro manage your aim? why are people shocked that console players need aim assist for it to be a level playing field

[gray prism]

The sniper was fun to use and admittedly bad before, now it's bad and not fun to use. I never ran into anyone else using the sniper in tournament mode and only a handful in quickcash or bank it.

[muted orbit]

yeah L patch for console in general

[storm flume]

It has one shot kill potential though, that's it's only selling point. You can hit for over 300 damage on someone in one shot which is insane if you can aim, but of course you can't on console because they're not allowed to enjoy the game at all it seems

[storm flume]

L developers caving to pc crybabies again

[muted orbit]

im really putting the time in but for 3 hours getting used to it, shotguns are really dead. the beams are not the same any more, at least its not only me

i see 1vs1 im in, everyone missing shots

too many people on the objective. looks like a blind match kkk

[storm flume]

The game will not last long if they do not make the game level for people on console, it'll become a pc game that has a dead player count on xbox and ps5

[muted orbit]

its quite early to tell, lets try to get used to it. theres a learning curve. only thing i know that will never be close to usable is the shotguns

fuck crossplay. the experience is just worse now

i wont use my fav weapon never again m1887

[storm flume]

The overall aiming feels horrible for console too, I have to play on linear because the other two aim curves have a huge deadzone you can't get rid of

[gray prism]

Im just surprised they absolutely gutted an already bad weapon before looking at something like, idk, recon senses which is objectively absurd in ranked. The revolver too was considerably worse than either of the ARs before and is basically trolling using it now on controller.

[storm flume]

Half of the game is absurd rn, invis is completely broken and the clear meta, the mesh shield and rpg are both very op too

[gray prism]

Yeah the invis is tough, I play on my PC with a controller and dont have the best graphics card and seeing the invis without running thermal is impossible sometimes.

[storm flume]

Stun gun lasts about 10 years, Lewis gun has zero recoil whatsoever, and auto turrets have constant aimbott, and way too much health

[plucky hazel]

Can you halt the bullshit and acknowledge the autoaim was too strong on console

[storm flume]

Three mediums running two turrets and a healing beam with gas is literally unbeatable

[plucky hazel]

They dont nerf auto aim because of pc

[storm flume]

No it wasn't.

[plucky hazel]

They already fixed wasd exploit

[storm flume]

it REALLY wasn't all that, call of duties is noticeably stronger lol

the auto sim is almost never too strong on console, pc players have a issue with console players having aim assist at all which is why we need to stop pandering to them

Aim assist was put into console shooters for a reason and that was to make aiming balanced, this whole wave of pc crybabies is a recent development, not something that was always been around

[plucky hazel]

I do agree shptgun on console do need some auto aim

But nerfing auto aim strength is different

[storm flume]

Aiming and shooting accurately with any fully automatic weapon except the Lewis gun on consoles rn feels horrendous, even before the patch

The aiming is totally off on console and it was even worse in the beta, I play with crossplay off entirely because I will just get beamed across the map by an FCAR if I go into pc lobbies

[plucky hazel]

Maybe you should stop thinking cod is the golden standard for fps 😩

Why tf im i still continuing this

[storm flume]

When did I say that? Typical pc dude putting words in mouths man

[plucky hazel]

Also since when i look down on console

[storm flume]

Does that sentence say "cod is the gold standard for fps games" or do I need glasses

[plucky hazel]

This is a waste of time

[storm flume]

Considering you can't read I'd say I agree

[muted orbit]

nah bro

game is really awkward right now i can tell on console. alot of people in the same spot feels like everyone is a kid playing, trying to control sprays with the strafin left and right now kkk and the shotguns without ADS AA is nonsense

they were too weak on their mentality, so we can all agree that everything some players start crying about they have to nerf or buff instantly.
this AA topic discussion only got to that dimension and so big because there were people with AA on PC.. us on console were not even close to someone average PC player

and they decided to nerf AA faster than they nerfed the C4 NUKES meta and the INFINITE CLOAKING and INFINITE MESH SHIELD. And IMPOSSIBLE soloqueing ranked experience lol

[boreal steppe]

I hope the next few updates include hit registration fixes on single shot weapons or whatever the issue is where the bullets do not come out of the reticle when moving.

[muted orbit]

there were some thing waaay more urgent than AA on console. REWASD yes was the problem, not the AA ON ITSELF

[storm flume]

Factually, if the aim assist we've been used to for years now was nerfed across the board, we would not be able to compete with the average pc player, that's not a skill issue, it's an "I have to use two little sticks while you use your entire arm" issue. And pc players whining about it every time a new shooter comes out is really telling of what they want out of games

Obviously they're not gonna say "I wanna shit on console guys and I don't want it to be difficult for me to do that" but we know that's what they wish they could do

[muted orbit]

yeah not to talk that only on their mouse they have tons of buttons, we are desperate to have 2 more triggers lols

AA was fine i think, maybe a LITTLE nerf on the aim sticking was okay. this was a BIG one

now cloaking is even more sweatier, aim dont stick when they cloak

[gray prism]

Yeah definitely not playing this shit on the PC anymore, it was hard enough without being able to filter by input device and I dont feel like wasting the space to download this on the playstation lmfao. If anything they're content with the meta being tripple M, or MMH every game. And to all the people crying that controllers were so broken go and see how many legit controller players, and not REWASD warriors were in the top 1000 players maybe 50.

[muted orbit]

only good meta whas ADS shotgun on light invisible players.. AHAHAH TRY IT NOW

of course

they were making such a mess because there were ALOT of controller players but this guys are REWASD users. not legit controller users lol

[wary oar]

cant u turn off crossplay?

[muted orbit]

EMBARK u need to sort it out, game is so different now.. shotguns dead. ADS on enemies dont track center mass

yeah u can turn OFF crossplay but not INPUTS

so there are people on XBOX play MSKeyboard

[gray prism]

You can but I have a son that usually bogarts the console lmao so I typically played on the PC with a controller.

[storm flume]

The levels of care devs put into anti cheat now is appalling

[muted orbit]

and if you play on PC there will always be players playing controller on PC lobbies. the thing is the AA is so less powerful now that they have nothing more against you

[storm flume]

They just don't give af, people bypass inputs and use all manner of bullshit like xim/cronus etc and nothing changes

[wary oar]

interesting, i dont feel as if I have encountered a cheater yet. and my ranked games typically seem to have a diverse array of team builds but idk im not insanely high rank

[storm flume]

There are tons of people using cronus on console rn, that's the issue pc players should be crying about not aim assist

[muted orbit]

only way im enjoying THE FINALS again is when i get a PC. Game on console will die if game stays like this

on a BIG TIME TO KILL game like this u need good sticking AA. otherwise without a mouse how will you kill a HEAVY with lots of shields and 350HP?

today i went back to EAFC 24 since the first day i tried THE FINALS

[half void]

Heavy sniper, maybe a 50. Explosive so you can use it to break walls

[half void]

womp womp

[boreal steppe]

I've personally encountered 2 cheaters in casual Bank it which I thought was sad. there were beaming people across map with the XP-54.

[muted orbit]

i was reallly enjoying the finals. spent already like 40€ on the game. never spent anything like that in a short amout of time.
today was a bad day for console 😦

was really close to recharge more 10€ for the Akimbo shotgun, since it was a fun and good gun if you were good aiming. now its just trashhh

[golden adder]

Recon sense 3 stacks in quick cash are AIDS. What a broken ability to get the jump on every other player with 0 counterplay or notice

[bronze blaze]

Anyone else notice the mp5 optic doesn’t match with bullet placement or is that just me?

[muted orbit]

yeah nerf abilities in general. but recon if recon is broken. cloaking and mesh are too

at least recon u cant spam it. like cloak-shoot-cloak-shoot-cloak. the same for mesh shield
all these abilities should have a activation fee like recon senses have. so we have to use it wisely in the right moment. cloak and mesh u can just spam it between shots

me as M Main hate fighting the SMALLEST, INVISIBLE, FASTEST MOVING charachter in the game spamming his invisibility. not even recon senses can spot them on sight. onyl behind walls

[dire crag]

For the love of god buff throwing knives, why do they do so little dmg and why can't I hold click to throw more accurately

[primal dove]

Damage is great, but the secondary throw sucks. If we can hold it or have it be instant but have a cooldown would be great.

[dire crag]

If they fix accuracy the dmg is probably fine but right now it's not enough for how many knives you can actually get on target. I hope they change one of these tho, preferably accuracy

[warped cypress]

Medium recon nerf should reveal the user to the enemies as well while the ability is active. And ultimate Ranked fix for higher skill ceiling potential and less campy toxic similar team strats every match should be the comingly mentioned L,M,H role cue or at the least you can’t double/triple stack on specializations (double, triple medium heal beams)

[tranquil rose]

All optics and ironsights dont match, they all shoot from the middle of your screen

[twilit cedar]

Why do you TYPE LIKE THIS it's QUITE ANNOYING

[real wave]

I don’t find it annoying royal rose

[warm lion]

I think he just needs to learn how to do this to his messages

[queen osprey]

does the aps turret shoot bullets or just large projectiles like an rpg

[half void]

It destroys any projectile in its range, not bullets or barrels

[sturdy plover]

im kinda torn between the ak , the revolver and the shotgun as my 2nd medium weapon

or should i be using something else

[restive plover]

Nerf rpg

[past sparrow]

Nerf SH1900

[placid oriole]

def ak

[silk viper]

You can put multiple weapons in your reserve

[bleak drum]

Buff model 1887 I beg of you. Most fun gun to use but the consistency sucks ASSS! Might as well make it a slug shot doing 20 damage point blank! SMFH! (I might just be terrible at the game)

[vocal flume]

Nerf the Mediums shotgun, does way to much damage on proper servers but on trash servers which you have it does little damage

[bleak drum]

If your saying it’s over powered you are out your goofy ass mind 💀

[vocal flume]

it does really good damage even far away which makes no sense, it shouldnt have range thats like 5 buildings away

[paper peak]

The medium class shotgun is wrongly classified, it should be put under sniper rifles rather than shotguns ahlieeee 😂

[bleak drum]

Lmao Id be fine with less range but more damage up close. It’s just weird that I hit ppl 4-5 times while they’re running away or reloading and then they just laser me when I’m out of ammo. Makes the only two options for medium the Ak and car since their both just as reliable close range as the shotty

[soft juniper]

To anyone willing to participate how would you buff the dagger to make it more usable? and get creative best Idea I though of was adding 5 poison damage on each light attack that can stack so the more you auto the more the poison damage stacks up and will kill your enemy over time even after your dead

[restive plover]

Dagger is usable, the problem with dagger is the prolific use of recon mediums spotting you through walls. Hard to sneak up on someone when they see you highlighted through walls at all times

[sturdy plover]

my other weapon is shield lol

im one hell of a jackass when using it lol

its really dependent on teammates though

[half void]

I think riot shield was made for light and sword for medium

They are just so much better that way

[quasi stream]

if you play right you can demolish rifle users with the m1887, but you have to avoid medium to long sightlines

[quasi stream]

nah

[soft juniper]

Well another thing is I think they should let you hold the charge for the back stab but not for a long time if held for too long it will just go off

[restive plover]

nerf rpg

[soft juniper]

How so?

[restive plover]

one shots lights+ does no damage to the owner istg

[pure osprey]

Yea but its on like a 30sek cd so its not like you can spam it

[soft juniper]

Lights are a squishy class with the best mobility yeah it’s fair the rocket would do that + the rocket does hurt the user when it’s close enough

[soft juniper]

This too

[restive plover]

😭😭😭

[pure osprey]

I see one very simple sulution to hhis

[restive plover]

e

[soft juniper]

I know what it’s like on both ends get over it there are ways to counter and deal with this

[pure osprey]

Stop engaging heavys from the front ad an light

[restive plover]

thats like saying"stop dying"

also im not a cloak user cuz i have a life and im educated

[pure osprey]

Well it works for me, and i only play light😂

[pure osprey]

Me neither, i use the dash

[restive plover]

same sword + dash

im eidorians long lost nephew

[soft juniper]

As a melee user your gona have a difficult time against heavy if you can before fighting a heavy throw a glitch or taser them

That or use a vanishing bomb to help you get close to them best case is you force them to blow you and themselves up

[pure osprey]

Or focus on the other 2 people on the team

[teal lance]

I like how the clip shows a heavy hurting themselves to the rpg

[spice panther]

use hit and run tactics and use your mobility go use flanks

or glitch grenade

[remote solar]

Lol

[rotund jay]

Dagger my beloved

[frosty lintel]

LF EU 1 PLAYER UNRANKED TOURNAMENT

[viscid orchid]

I'll engage from the front. Just for a moment. It's surprising how often peeps try to hold an angle in a game with this much mobility. Then I engage from somewhere else

[bright hill]

Nerf turret

[quick grove]

???

[devout yoke]

Have you guys gotten a glitch where you have 2 skins equipped and can't unequip

[median grove]

No mp5 skin😭😭😭😭

[restive plover]

PUT A SWITCH ON THE REVOLVER PLEASE!!!!!

I’m begging!!!!

[bronze zenith]

anyone play ark?

[restive plover]

Me

PUT A SWITCH ON THE RPG PLEASE

[sharp berry]

wtf is a switch

[restive plover]

FULLY AUTOMATIC

[keen panther]

the RPG is fully automatic, you just can't tell because you only get one round

[halcyon urchin]

it can be annoying when with the heavy grenade launcher you direct hit them but do no damage

[tacit venture]

What is the range on the stun gun?

[cloud barn]

They just increased the range, right?

[soft juniper]

I noticed this I goes right through them and that’s annoying

[soft juniper]

It was 10m at launch then for Christmas patch it was 12m

[lone matrix]

They need to take off the Zipline from medium and go ahead an just give it to heavy. Mf has no mobility whatsoever and who even uses Zipline over Jumppad anyways?

[narrow igloo]

me

[soft juniper]

Same

[radiant pilot]

zipline goated

[rocky willow]

[trim cloak]

thank you bart

[slow nova]

lol

[neat bobcat]

they already did you basically have to get a direct shoot to one shot

[torn adder]

Is goo gun meta yet?

[ember haven]

yeah, same with charms. Delete and remake the contestant, that fixes it

[ember haven]

I use both tbh

[frigid umbra]

What is an arena object? Pls

[rain tapir]

anything you pick up

[frigid umbra]

Ok ty

[spice cape]

HERE ME OUT

[neon pelican]

listening

[spice cape]

the fully leveled up skins are mid

insted they should make the triangles pop out and make them sparkle

[buoyant ridge]

why doesn't the riot shield's shield count towards the damage blocked weekly challenge

[buoyant ridge]

same here & I totally get what you mean with the teammates

[buoyant ridge]

they definitely need to shorten the reload on the 1885, but personally I think the FCAR should have a 4 round burst fire & 28 round mag

[slim bridge]

maybe could be a diff gun

[viscid orchid]

Yeahhh, tune the numbers all you like, but don't take away the gun's base function

[restive plover]

I saw a video with a person using ironsights on the FCAR. Anyone know how thats possible?

[hidden compass]

Anyone else on PS5 having issues with charms and stickers on weapons? I unequip one charm and equip another, but it puts the unequipped charm back on once I'm in game

[fossil cobalt]

Maybe switch to Xbox

[hidden compass]

I'm good, just wondering what the glitch is. I'm not sure if it was happening before the recent patch

[void thicket]

dm me if you wanna play the finals with me in relitively kn==new but know what im doing just trying to chill and have fun

[soft juniper]

Anyone else exited for next week since they said it’s a big patch with new content?

[proud parcel]

During the closed beta tests when it was added it still had iron sights.

[orchid mountain]

Anyone else on PS5 having issues with charms and stickers on weapons? I unequip one charm and equip another, but it puts the unequipped charm back on once I'm in game

[tribal moon]

Had this issue on PC with weapon skins, seemed to fix itself after a long while

[opal token]

@tyguy I'm naked grandma

Aka feet licker

[lucid fossil]

i need a tank with a switch

[steel kraken]

🤝🏿

[heady skiff]

Need dual pistols for medium class

[quick grove]

hell no.

[heady skiff]

Why hell no

[quick grove]

for a light yeah but a medium nah need another like battle rifle for a medium

[heady skiff]

I see ur point bro need a battle rifle

[quick grove]

lmao 2 pistols is insane ??

[turbid perch]

No slowmode in this channel

[heady skiff]

Yes

[pure osprey]

The flip-out flayer skin for the dagger is got to be the best skin in any game😂 the disrespect killing someone holding knife smaller than man toe with 2 fingers is insane😂

[rocky path]

Zip>Jump
Frags are great
Defib is busted

[tribal moon]

all facts, real ✅

but defib shouldnt be changed too much imo

if ur team doesnt have a healslave medium your comp was flawed from the start

[bright hill]

Defibrillator should be nerfed to give less health when it spawns you that way it can be rewarding to run heal instead of the fing TUrrEtS

[grand drift]

Does the Light Motion Sensor count as "detects" for weekly contracts?

[bright hill]

Yep

[grand drift]

tyty :))

[tribal moon]

whats "healninsyead"?

healingbeam?

[grand drift]

Healing instead I assume

[bright hill]

Wdym?

[tribal moon]

your typo made it impossible to guess what word you meant

but I get you now

I dont understand people that take turret over healbeam, even the x-ray vision is more useful

unless you already have a healer of course

[near shard]

Running up against a triple turret med stack is migraine inducing. Hearing non stop wubs as your trying to push the cash out 💀

[pseudo gale]

Dear representatives of Embark and the teams working with you. Hello. My native language is not English, so I apologize for my incorrect words. I see that you are listening to the opinion of the players. Your game has become my number one since the first day of playing in beta testing. I'm playing on the Xbox Series. My friendship is simple enough. Don't kill the aim assist in this game for Xbox and PS players. By reducing the magnetism in the aim assist, you make it incredibly difficult. After today's patch (1.4.0 or 1.4.1), it became very difficult to aim. And in class L, when invisible, the aim assist does not work at all. This is not to mention when you play against players on a computer who use all sorts of programs and the advantages of a keyboard with a mouse. Hear my words and I will be very happy about it. Please 🙏🏼

[tribal moon]

sounds pretty funny imo, being shot from 6 sides and them standing up again like zombies after getting defib'd

[azure ginkgo]

Lol we are not using any kind of program
Just learn the game and train your aim
If controller was going to have a huge advantage in the game what was the point on playing with keyboard and mouse! Then everyone had to play controller

[tribal moon]

aren't consoles also able to turn off crossplay?

who not do that, completely equal playing field that way @pseudo gale

also after the last update the common PC aim assist should have been fixed and removed

[halcyon urchin]

I've said it before but the heavie's grenade launcher and I think medium's as well, should really have damage on direct hit as well,

[near shard]

Pretty sure Med launcher explodes on impact whereas Heavy bounces

[cyan flax]

pluh

[stark trout]

Y’a des français Game 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷

[strange mortar]

Needs to be a short range scope on the LH1

[tribal moon]

how or why is the medium yapping to the heavy about nukes?

[kind warren]

Mediums buff heavy with healz n defib we rely on them, whereas the Medium relies on the heavy for extra destruction/damage/chaos. it's a symbiotic relationship really

[tribal moon]

I hate L and H (I'm a M main btw)

[kind warren]

🇱 take but ok

[tribal moon]

hahahah, just saying stupid shit dw

[kind warren]

bruh same I hate lights also (also learned to play the game as a light)

[tribal moon]

real and same

Tbh heavy's most valuable trait are his shields, more so than his damage or other strongpoints imo

[kind warren]

oh im all defensive play 🌐 it's the old tank demon from WoW days in me screaming "playHeavyplayHeavyplayHeavyplayHeavy"

[tribal moon]

using 🌐 to indicate dome shield is hilariously effective

[kind warren]

I guard Medium contestants like precious gems that they are 💎

🌫️🌫️pew🌫️🌫️pew🔫 "shooting some goo"

[tribal moon]

I may be precious but I'll still miss half my akm mag 😭

[kind warren]

started running the 1887 me like (as big same I ruin all my chances to get kills with the AKM recoil somehow)

[tribal moon]

might put that in my reserve to try out

[maiden rose]

Letting thermal vision cooldown be varied based on how much of it you used is what's breaking the skill. It should be full cooldown no matter how much of it you used. Anyone agree or disagree?

[tame sinew]

yuh

[tribal moon]

can you explain how varied cooldown is breaking it?

I get that it enables it to be used way more, but the skill is far from OP so how does it matter?

[restive plover]

with a holdable gadget you travel faster

what happened to the sniper hipfire anyone know?

[real wave]

Probably effected by the aa nerf thankfully

[winged surge]

Havent noticed any major change

[void thicket]

dm me if you wanna play the finals with me in relitively kn==new but know what im doing just trying to chill and have fun

[maiden rose]

Recon sense is OP. If it wasn't op then you would see more variation in high level game play. Right now everyone in the top levels of play is running Recon sense. A toggleable "wallhack" that doesn't have a cooldown eliminates any element of surprise or escape. There's no juking someone out or sneaking up on a team. Mind you the light class is defined by their evasion and stealth. Adding in a cooldown will make the ability more balanced as it now requires proper timing and only gives sight for a more limited period of time.

[tribal moon]

#💣┇weapons-gadgets message I was replying to this message, your message was about thermal vision which is a different skill on the light class 😅

I feel sorry for you writing that long text, I fully agree with you on recon senses being OP haha

[maiden rose]

😅 My bad, I did write thermal vision, but I meant to write recon sense. >.< Thermal vision does have a full CD no matter how much of it you use. Also it requires you to put your weapon away to activate/deactivate it. If they just switched the mechanics for recons sense and thermal vision I think both skills would be more balanced.

[tribal moon]

I agree that switching the mechanics would be more balanced overall but it can't be the final solution. since its your "main skill" like turret or healbeam and tied to the nature of your character its only natural that you can use it when you feel like it (just like light invis)

otherwise your main skill that truly sets you apart will be on cooldown most of the time taking away whatever medium has going for it (apart from a solid AR)

[maiden rose]

Yeah I agree. Switching them is just a quick take at balancing the two skills. Also on your point, light invis needs to be reworked too lol. The distance and duration on recon sense needs to be reduced and some sort of CD needs to be added to light invis.

[potent kite]

Boutta make a purchase for my light build, should I get the XP or the SH?

[tribal moon]

light invis suffers from the same problem but worse, not being able to go invis after taking even the slightest damage would ruin it. It'd be interesting to me what would happen if the invis effect became a tiny bit less effective within 15 meters or so

[maiden rose]

I think light needs more HP. As for light invis, I think a small 1 - 1.5 sec CD after leaving invis makes sense. Idk, I don't have a problem with invis light because I run thermal vision, but from what I've heard with people complaining about the ability the short CD would make sense once you fix lights HP issues.

[tribal moon]

1 sec cooldown on invis sounds funny but often once they manage to get close its too late already

now that "more hp for light" take thats controversial hahahaha
I think it'd be unbalanced af, basically a medium with insane mobility and guns

light is high risk high reward

[maiden rose]

I mean if you gave the light 250 health then yes it would be very unbalanced. However I think 175 makes sense. No longer 1 shot by RPGs sounds like a more enjoyable experience. The 1 sec CD on invis just adds repercussions to getting caught while invis. I also agree that light is high risk high reward, but it needs to be buffed somehow. It doesn't even exist in high-mid level gameplay. The HP buff is the only thing I can think of without reworking the entire class.

[tribal moon]

ohhh 175 hp is fine hahaha, dont think it'll fix their place in ranked mode tho

light's whole nature is that it's a fun but unreliable class which makes it bad for competitive gameplay

I talked about giving them more respawn coins in #👂┇game-feedback seems like a valid idea to me

[maiden rose]

Alright hear me out. Light gets a new gadget. A teleport grenade. You throw it and it teleports everything within a small radius of you to where the grenade lands.

Right now I think lights big issue revolves around distance. They get out ranged heavily. If they do get into range they are deadly, but usually they are alone because their teammates can't close the gap like they do. Giving them a bit more HP would allow them to assassinate a player more reliably, allowing their team to advance.

[tribal moon]

very interesting, first though was "thats way too unrealistic" but then invisibility and wallhacks came in my mind haha

would it be a main ability like invis or grapple or of the others?

[lost dew]

Just imagining playing against someone using "teleport grenades" hurts my soul

[maiden rose]

No a gadget, like glitch grenade.

[tribal moon]

I personally dont see how 1 AR bullet of health extra would improve light in a meaningful way tbh

[maiden rose]

more than actually playing against someone with wallhacks?

[tribal moon]

tbh invisibilty and wallhacks are about as bad as it gets hahaha

[maiden rose]

AR bullets do 25 dmg?!

[tribal moon]

akm does 20 or 30 and fcar does 30, yes

[lost dew]

Ivis isnt that bad because you can see the shimmer up close, within Light's effective range, and not enough people use walls for it to be that annoying

[tribal moon]

I think a teleport nade with a cooldown (of course) wouldnt be so bad, having 1 light use it in maybe half of its fights cant be that bad

[maiden rose]

What do you mean people don't use walls?

[tribal moon]

even tho recon senses is 1 of 3 abilities I dont think a third of mediums use it

[maiden rose]

So in my proposal I said that it teleports everything within a small radius. This would include teammates. Whats your take on that?

[lost dew]

A vast majority in my experience, most lights run invis, with less using the grapple, and even fewer using the walls

[maiden rose]

Would be chaotic at times, but thats the nature of this game honestly.

[maiden rose]

Are you referring to walls as in an ability?

[lost dew]

yuh

[tribal moon]

I find it hard to imagine what gameplay would be like, you could use it after team wiping to instantly move your team closer to an objective which is very powerful in the current state of the game

also being able to teleport 2 heavies into the middle of an objective is very very powerful

[maiden rose]

Yes you can also put a jump pad on an angle to move your team closer to the objective too. I don't think jump pads are breaking the game.

[maiden rose]

Would you say so powerful it breaks the game? or so powerful it might make light a viable option in ranked?

I think it would make goo gun a more viable option too. Actually sealing up a point so a team can't tele in.

[tribal moon]

hahaha very interesting thoughts, I dont know

[lost dew]

If it makes goo gun better, im all for it. I have changed my stance on this.

[tribal moon]

that'd be very hard, sealing off an objective so that a grenade cant be tossed in is a big accomplishment

[maiden rose]

Depends on the point, but yeah the majority of the time it is a big accomplishment.

[tribal moon]

I'd love for the game to get some events in the future that experiment with ideas like these

we'd be able to try things like this and test something before committing to adding it in the game

[shy parrot]

does the revolver have a problem with hitreg? I feel like im missing shots that are dead on. it's pretty frustrating.

[tribal moon]

no clue, seen some weird stuff with snipers as well

[humble vector]

sword 🦾

[shy parrot]

i know there is a problem with weapon sights not being accurate because the bullet always shoots from the center of the screen

[cinder kelp]

crosshair overlay gng

[shy parrot]

actually haven't checked if i have one for my monitor. ik that third party overlays can get you in trouble i believe

[cinder kelp]

tape and sharpie is ur best friend

it is weird how it is bannable, only game ive seen that is weird abt it lol

we wouldnt have to use them if they j fixed the guns

[shy parrot]

yeah lol hopefully they fix it soon

[cinder kelp]

my confusion is like if someone who has a monitor that comes w one, how is that any diff than crosshair x or anything else like its j funny seeing how the devs run there game

[shy parrot]

i think it's because you can't detect the one that comes with the monitor

i think the revolver also has some bloom to it making it even harder to hit shots

[sterile perch]

Can someone explain to me how the stun gun or the glitch grenade is any fun

Because stun mechanics are the worst thing in the world to play against.

[proud parcel]

Glitch nades don't stun you, but the taser is extremely obnoxious and unfun.

[boreal laurel]

To me it’s less about fun and more about necessity

It’s a crutch for light

But glitch grenades are nice when the cashout is home to 800 gas mines…

[drowsy walrus]

Light just needs a health buff and a cloak nerf

[vocal sequoia]

love this game

[soft juniper]

I agree stun gun is annoying and I’m almost finding no point in using it besides to slow someone down using melee or to stop someone from cashing out or just to hit a heavy with it so they don’t use the rocket launcher on me but the stun gun also takes away time to kill so I’m honestly tempted to not use it anymore

[proud parcel]

It guarantees a kill on an out of place enemy and due to the 12m range you can fuck an enemy over in a team fight from relative safety. You even listed two more use cases for it. It's very very useful and very unfun to die to.

[soft juniper]

I will say it’s probably just a me problem then since I’m better at melee weapons then ranged

[soft juniper]

I’m probably one of the only lights then that does not use the taser all the time to kill someone just the the listed reasons

[twilit magnet]

whats like the fastest way to lvl up ur weapon for skin level 6

[dapper valley]

play bank it and farm kills

[soft juniper]

And depending on the weapon will determine the difficulty (Rip if your going for L6 dagger)

[hidden compass]

Anyone else on PS5 having issues with charms and stickers on weapons? I unequip one charm and equip another, but it puts the unequipped charm back on once I'm in game

[fresh junco]

Imagine eating a grilled cheese while snowboarding

[vocal sequoia]

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

i like dogs

[tough gazelle]

Why do you think cloak needs a nerf?

[turbid perch]

Cloak is fine

The noise is obnoxious enough

[sterile perch]

I just find it very unfun to be in a gunfight and all of a sudden I can't ADS or use my gadgets. If they arent point blank im dead 9/10 times. If I could counter it or something, it would be fine ig. I'd just rather Light have another tool that expands their skill set instead of something that takes away other player's skills.
Its not fun to be in a position you should win, only for you to be crippled with no warning or way to work around it.

Even if it still took away my gadgets, if I could still move as usual it wouldn't be as big of a deal. Its infuriating to be both immobilized and unable to fight back

Stun mechanics are not fun in a game that relies heavily on movement mechanics. You should not be giving players abilities that stop other players from being able to play.

That being said, I appreciate that the devs have started with very strong weapons and gadgets that should be nerfed, Id much rather the early days of this game be a little bit of a power fantasy than a slog

[zealous carbon]

I understand where your coming from but I feel like to an extent there is counter play it doesn’t hit very accurately at range forcing you to get up close lights have the thermal vision mediums have the recon senses to see they making the rotation I do agree it is anoying to get stunned especially in the modes you have unlimited credits because it allows for lights to run a little more rampant without being punished but I think the tasers in a pretty good state if anything just lower the cooldown so it takes longer in between uses I personally think the only thing they could change to make it a bit more fun is making the double barrel do 345 with two pumps to a heavy and the rpg dealing 145 both would have 5 health they could use to try and outplay the opponent without being directly one tapped allowing for more skill expression I.e a good light getting away and repositioning or a good heavy turning around to challenge it does take lot more skill to get up close with the shotgun but this way it allows skilled players to effectively do the same thing as before if they punch them after the shotgun shots or the heavy to use whatever utility he has to turn the situation in his favour I also wouldn’t mind c4 and breach charges only being able to be attached to chairs and plants leaving the toxic barrels and things for cash out plays and counter plays rather than icbms but the game is very balanced if you look at all the different counterplay I feel like every class has a few things that make them “broken” but in the words of syndrome from the incredibles if everyone’s super nobody is every class feels like they have a place to shine devs have done fantastic work bless their souls

[sterile perch]

At the very least, stun mechanics shouldn't be on light. Light builds can get in and out of range too quickly, and adding the stun is salt in the wound.
As a medium or heavy gadget, it would be something that counters the light build's speed. The slower classes also wouls need to commit to being close to the target since they can't duck in and out of range like light builds can.

[dense mauve]

They got a glitch mine

[elder edge]

Why is the sword so underwhelming

[honest saddle]

Does anyone have a problem with the cosmetics on the throwing knives

[tame stump]

does anyone else hate the sledgehammer hecays destroying every building

[twilit cedar]

are there any way to cancel the charge

[soft juniper]

what if the taser was switched to a electrical mine instead? still would effect one person but would be place insted of running around with a gun

[soft juniper]

only problem I have is throwing the cards they turn into knifes still and not throwing cards kinda missed opportunity

[honest saddle]

Yeah, same thing happens to me

[sterile perch]

Would fix it imo. Watch your step and youd be fine.

[soft juniper]

it would make for some great traps too

stun mine + gas mine = Gross

[dusky pollen]

yeah, but, it just sounds like a skill issue

just dont get tased, take active precautions

imagine getting tased in real life and then complaning to the devs to nerf it, its ridiculous, your fault you let yourself get tased, right?

[warm lion]

lack of awareness moment

[storm cipher]

Which weapons headshot? Is it just the sniper rifle?

[hybrid fox]

I’m sure you can headshot with any weapon

[storm cipher]

really?

even goo gun????

[hybrid fox]

I’m assuming because I’ve gotten shots on none snipers. Also I didn’t know they’re was a goo gun?

[storm cipher]

goo gun! heavy specialisation

[hybrid fox]

Lol I’ll have a look never played heavy tbh

[storm cipher]

you should, it's pretty fun

[dusky pollen]

all weapons headshot, at a 1.5x damage buff afaik

[storm cipher]

cool, thanks

[drowsy walrus]

Because every light is using it and it's boring having invis as the meta

[hardy yarrow]

dash invs bomb is way better

[shrewd echo]

my bro I dont think light is meta in general 💀

[silver shoal]

good lights have 20-50 kills per round. still useless tho

[shrewd echo]

in ranked?

[twilit glade]

make the turret stronger

[silver shoal]

no. quick cash

[shrewd echo]

yeah, thats why 😭

[violet vigil]

Goo goo gaga

[rustic coyote]

riot shield is underrated

[violet vigil]

waaa

[drowsy walrus]

meta for playing light*

[glad wraith]

Anyone havfe tips on how to use the glitch grenade? i can never land hits

[zealous carbon]

Left trigger is a low Throw sometimes it bounces which can throw it off I find the best way to land hits is from above and just dropping it in with left trigger or throwing it trough a window I know the objective is near

[glad wraith]

thanks

[zealous carbon]

Ranked lights are used for counterplay from what I’ve seen you don’t see it often but when I team is hiding behind the heavy’s shield hitting them with a glitch grenade can change the course of that fight I think the light can be meta in the right hands but he favours team coordination if your solo queuing he’s not as great as you can’t rely on your team acting on the opening you can give them as a light

[zealous carbon]

And pro tip play medium with recon senses it’s a lot easier to deal with when you can just hit one button and see them running up lol

[peak sandal]

pluh

pluh

[oak cypress]

stun gun go burr

[peak sandal]

pluh

[muted orbit]

BUFF M1887 ON CONSOLE. ITS DEAD NOW

[peak sandal]

pluh

[jagged prism]

Anyone know how many games you need to get white skin? And do kills wins effect XP or is it standard

[rare crown]

108

[buoyant canyon]

what gadget and class to "detect" people the quickest? does it matter?

i mostly play light but i dont want to unlock thermal vision if there is another class and gadget that would make it go quicker

[muted venture]

medium is great for detecting people because they have recon sense and sonar grenade

[earnest sorrel]

LFG Gold rank

[heady skiff]

Gun attachments?

[reef tinsel]

yeah u can unlock them for $4.99

[dawn totem]

Recon sense does not count towards the challenge

[muted venture]

then use the sonar grenade thats what ive been doing and it works

[rocky juniper]

Taser needs a nerf, it’s a one shot gun. If you get hit your 99% dead, or give medium a one shot weapon/gadget to 🤷🏼‍♂️

[wary orbit]

how?

[reef tinsel]

in hidden store you have to go to their website, right now it's only a suppressor and some grips for the rifles

[wary orbit]

wheres the hidden store?

[rocky juniper]

There is no hidden store.

[wary orbit]

lol

[reef tinsel]

just say you can't find it bro don't have to be upset over it

[reef tinsel]

are you sure you want to know?

[wary orbit]

yes rn

[reef tinsel]

wait give me 5 minutes i have to find it again then

[wary orbit]

k

[sand mica]

Fr

[heady skiff]

How tho

[crisp glacier]

put it on a gas canister

[tidal hawk]

search for heavy build

[clever storm]

i directly hit someone with it and they kept moving and continued shooting me, does anyone know why?

[glad oasis]

you missed

[scarlet rapids]

Medium has wall hacks and you're complaining about a stun gun lol

[clever storm]

no it also had the stun effect thingy

[soft juniper]

Ah yes take precautions against the cloaking lights that can hit me with a taser at 12m I was only giving an interesting idea of making the taser gun a taser mine, the Taser being annoying is just a fact to all players when dealing with it

[soft juniper]

Lights have Taser, mediums have wall hacks, Heavy has nuke pick your poison

[dusky pollen]

i admit, taser mines would be cool, and i would prefer if the taser gun wouldnt slow you down, its a bit too op if you can actually aim

[soft juniper]

That or the time of stun is reduced

[dusky pollen]

i just feel like if they stun you they can just 2 shot you with shotgun or whatever and it feels kinda cheap

[soft juniper]

Maybe tasers effectiveness should be based on class type?

But im just spitting ideas here embark is planning a new patch and said it was happening this week so we will see what they do then

[sweet mica]

Yes, you press the same button again and it stops. Also jumping makes you do an extra jumping slam which stops it.

[glad wraith]

anyone feeling like lights cloak should be nerfed

[exotic spear]

whomp whomp

[exotic spear]

nah but yo defo should be able to strafe more

and maybe ads

[keen panther]

i dont mind the stun tbh but i feel like it wouldnt suffer if it lost a second of duration and made it up with a lower cooldown or longer range or something. it feels lame when you are able to fight off the enemy light and then just have to sit in a sad dark room for 3 more seconds that feel like eternity

i enjoy the adreneline hit of my screen screaming STUNNED as a furiously spin around and attempt to big-league headshot some greedy light

[restive plover]

Can we remove nukes or DB

Or is super low TTK with no way to fight back the idea of this game

In a game with specifically high TTK

[soft juniper]

I mean if they left taser the way it is but increase the cooldown on it so it’s seen less often it would make light have to think when to use the taser

Ok besides talking about existing stuff is there anything new people are hopping for?

[forest vale]

Cheap? Really? When mediums are walking around with defibs and heavies are walking around with nukes. Whatever dude.

[cunning palm]

Bros not lying

The tazer is balanced compared to rpgs and debifs lmao

[forest vale]

Complaining about DB. The one good thing light has when ALL the other classes are OP out their asses.

[keen panther]

i'd love an explosive that felt like a mortar. i want to rain doom from above

[forest vale]

People see it as THROWING a ranked game when someone picks light. I wonder why? Almost like Light is the only balanced class while the others are too OP.

[keen panther]

i already get a ton of joy from proccing Orbital Lasers to hit unexpected places

[restive plover]

I just want high TTK, but this game has glass cannons and Uber tanks. Cant have both in high TTK which is unfortunate

[keen panther]

i wonder if a valid gadget could be a thing that lets you slowly phase through a wall without destroying it. very sneaky

[restive plover]

Instant defib, cloaks OR DB, nukes OR shields is what I want

Raise the TTK

[keen panther]

me in literally any game i play haha. i love shooting for longer

[restive plover]

Just remove one of those per class or make them specializations. Make us choose. I just want high TTK, I hate all this burst damage

[keen panther]

i suspect, but cannot prove, that without the burst damage you find yourself in some sort of medgun medium meta with unreasonable sustain. well used shields add a ton of effective HP to a fight and i could see things spiralling upward with enough defensive tooling
(enter glitch grenade 🙂 )

the medgun is good for what, 450hp before it overheats? its a very strong tool

idk if nerfing the medgun is viable because i think direct healing is a fantasy a lot of players enjoy fulfilling. people like being healers

[restive plover]

Turn it off if someone gets shot

Not like gas or fire

[glad oasis]

ik im not the best with a gun but let me heal and ill put up 10k support score a game

[exotic junco]

ÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑññññ

[bright hill]

Nerf C4

[stiff dragon]

nah

buff flamethrower and grenade launcher they ass rn

[midnight grail]

100% agree

[restive plover]

Flamethrowers aren't bad, you just take the wrong positions. Run it with Mesh Shield and slap it up after you've got some damage to absorb shots then drop it to finish them off. Also it's an actual menace in tight space like rooms the deposits can spawn in.

GL definitely needs some love though, good support but you are genuinely a sitting duck if anyone wants to come get you

[slim vault]

Imo specializations should be locked to 1 player per team. No triple healing beams, invis lights, shield heavies, etc. Mostly for ranked

[warm prism]

Could there be a skin for the sword that turns it into a pool cue

[soft juniper]

I know in the closer beta there was a stick so noodle sword would be cool

[keen panther]

Idk if I agree but I'd definitely be willing to pay it for a week and see. Potentially viable!

[dusty flare]

Oooo maybe they could add diminishing returns if you run duplicate specs, like 2 healing beams is as good as if you only had 1 healing beam to deter people

[ember haven]

The Medium shotgun doesn't get head crits?

[opal token]

@ember haven none of the shotguns get head crits

@ember haven the pellet spread also stays the exact same regardless of ADS/ hipfire as well as distance I've tested all of these out myself

[dusky pollen]

yeah, exactly, but then i was reminded that lights have invis, but you see, medium and heavy dont have invis

[shrewd echo]

Ngl I would trade invis to wipe a team with nuke

[dusky pollen]

i dont even know the last time i was rpged it was so long ago

i genuinely think its a skill issue

[ember haven]

well that sucks

seems a touch unfair

[regal wyvern]

counter to the grenade launcher point, three heavies with grenade launchers is very hard to beat

evidence A:
disregard the rpg murder

[snow dust]

Lmao, this is brutal

[regal wyvern]

i could smell their fear

[obsidian heron]

does trophy system break mines too?

[cedar hill]

Yes

[soft juniper]

question what does the memory dump error mean?

I dont think its too much consern

[restive plover]

Kind of the point if you need 3x the firepower to saturate an area. If you all had any other weapon you'd have done the exact same thing but faster and easier

[wild spade]

fcar vs akm for med?

[proper gorge]

Akm by far

It’s better in like every way but the scar has easier recoil with an optic

[silent lotus]

I prefer the fcar personally for that reason and the damage feels better. But I will admit that the AKM having more shots is hard to beat

[dim phoenix]

If you can hit your shots hands down fcar

[wild spade]

considering i just dropped a 20 bomb with it in quick cash i think fcar is the way to go

[leaden kite]

anyone know the best way to get a headshot kill while sliding

[candid osprey]

Slide down hill where enemies are. Shoot them in the face hole

[graceful quiver]

🔥

[plucky hazel]

its bad

it does less dps than ak

[soft juniper]

Flamethrower is a chaotic weapon its mostly to put teams in a panic I personally see it as a supportive weapon so my other teammates can kill someone faster kinda like with the Grenada launchers for medium and heavy

[restive plover]

You shoot someone put up mesh shield and let them waste shots whilst they burn, drop and keep going. It also hits multiple people so you can get obscene value in tight spaces.

[plucky hazel]

you can do the same with lewis

[restive plover]

It's also never missing, alot of people will miss when they can't see you through a cloud of fire

But you're not getting free damage with the lewis gun and I win more than I don't vs Lewis gun in my effective range

[warm osprey]

take out the c4 so od. literally no ttk time. shits so dog shit

[little onyx]

stun gun is so aids to play against

[pallid gulch]

The thing about the stun gun is that it’s either really annoying to play against but if you nerf it in any tangible way it will lose all of its usefulness

[spiral sluice]

I think the smallest adjustment to the stun time would be good enough, you can almost get two full XP-54 mags off before the stun ends.

[sharp ridge]

Stun gun used to be super powerful, it's in a good state now IMO.

[wispy moon]

I think it’s going to be a mess watching nuke reliant teams learn to rotate and fight again. You guys think there is going to be a big boy change from the devs or no?

[boreal laurel]

To me it’s actually pretty easy to beat, because I use riot shield. Get stunned, pop the shield up, stay put, and two-shot the light when he comes in for the kill. Now sledgehammer…that’s a different story…

[twilit cedar]

0m charge time.

[west plover]

Man the tazer is out of place in this game

[devout karma]

pls buff shotguns

[restive plover]

@warm osprey this isn't an arena shooter, quite whining about ttk. Go back to cod baby

[bright hill]

The Fcar is almost unaffected by the stun gun, it has almost perfect hip fire accuracy for up to 20 meters

[rocky willow]

burst rifle for the medium would be great

[bright hill]

Wait fr thatd be cool

[sharp ridge]

Are you trying to say the stun gun should guarantee a kill without any resistance whatsoever?

For just landing one shot?

[graceful quiver]

😂

[stoic forge]

previous stun gun meant getting hit and mild strafing would be an instant win for light

[kind warren]

them: nerf the nukes

heavy builds:

[olive wharf]

Best strategy

[heady nimbus]

can anyone give me a good loadout

[short tusk]

Idea for weapon/gadget something similar to the healing thing the mediums got but for the cashout to be able to steal it from like 10m to 20m away. that would hilarious hahahah

[golden adder]

I suggested something similar before but for light where you can throw down a destroyable device that can capture/revive

[bright hill]

Bro what u on ab I'm just saying that Fcar beats Stun and Stun beats Defib and Defib beats Fcar, like Rock Paper Scissors

[heady skiff]

Add a cheese slicer skin for light dagger

[bright hill]

Yeah

[mystic zodiac]

Season rewards would be better, if each class had a weapon skin as a reward. Instead it makes it hard to want to grind ranked for a skin i don't care about in a class i will only ever play for daily or weekly contracts.

[tired lark]

fix error code tfla0002

[snow token]

Hello, I have encountered a tfla0002 problem. I tried all the solution methods that are listed on the Internet. What to do?

[dusk gate]

im emptying my wallet if i see them drop a good clean katana skin for sword

[median elk]

fcar or akm? I've seen people say both

[errant spoke]

i have the same problem ...

[ivory sable]

fcar if you can aim. akm if your aim is shite

[forest vale]

Why do people want one of lights only useful equipments to be nerfed? Take that energy towards defibs and nukes.

[median elk]

dang I somewhere inbetween, like I can't hit my first couple shot then when lock on I'm fine

[ivory sable]

then use the akm. its roughly a 25% dps decrease but its much much more forgiving if you miss shots

[soft juniper]

For what class?

[soft juniper]

There are 2 ways embark could take the changes either nerf the good stuff or buff the bad/other stuff so that it’s considered useful

[buoyant ridge]

have were glitch grenades don't effect the user if they are caught in the radius

[distant harness]

the flame thrower is too OP

[spiral sluice]

Defibs and nukes weren’t part of the conversation, happy to chat nerfing those.

[soft juniper]

No I think it’s fair if it does but maybe for not as long

Ok interesting thought I just had switch the effects of the stun gun and the glitch grenade

So the taser glitches them and the grenade Tases them

[buoyant ridge]

nah @soft juniper I am ok with effects of them just not the cooldown on the taser and being able to effected by my own glitch grenades despite the fact when my teammates are caught in the radius of my grenades they aren't effected

[exotic topaz]

How do u get your aim better settings

[left yarrow]

If u meant to ask “What are the best aim settings?” I gotta know on what u play first

[rocky field]

Thoughts on this loadout?

[spice panther]

is goo gun good? whats the common uses for it

[uneven temple]

mostly closing off common entry points & windows, if your team has mostly cqc type weapons it can force enemies in thru a specific doorway or something, or block a sniper from ruining ur day

[spice panther]

ooh interesting. I might try it just cus I forget to ever use charge and mesh shield when I eq them

[warm lion]

using it to trap players if you manage to actually land goo directly on them

[upper grove]

goodnight

[vital mauve]

And this is why you should run 3 mines

[frail kite]

what do u guys think r the best loadouts for each class?

[boreal laurel]

Personally:

MEDIUM
My loadout: riot shield/AK, both turrets, exp. mine/pyro grenade, and defibs (of course)
I main riot shield and keep AK as a backup—it’s the most forgiving medium weapon. FCAR is solid if you’re a better shot than I am 😁. The other guns are harder but still rewarding if used right (in other words, no really bad guns on medium—your choice).
All special skills are viable depending on the situation. Use recon senses if you’re a sweat, heal gun if you have a decent team, and turret otherwise.
For gear, PLEASE take defibs…. Other than that, pyro is always nice given the sheer amount of gas in the air these days. Carrying one grenade or mine of your pick is advised. APS is quite nice but not necessary (I just like it). Zip line and jump pad are good if you want to prioritize movement.
Takeaway: with medium it’s hard to go wrong. Go with your gut, but PLEASE use defibs…

[frail kite]

awesome ty (:

[boreal laurel]

HEAVY
My main build: shotgun/flamethrower, both shields, exp. mine/C4, RPG
For-fun build: sledgehammer, charge, same gadgets
All heavy guns are viable to some degree. Shotgun and Lewis are meta, hammer and flamer are fun, the other two are meh (or just situational). Go with your gut on this one.
Let’s be clear: goo gun is hard. Only take it if you’re daring. Otherwise, it’s simple: shield if you play defensively, charge if you’re going aggressive. You’ll need one or the other.
RPG is a MUST-HAVE. You’re probably going to want a defensive gadget too (barricade or shield). Then a grenade or mine as usual, but C4 is not bad (just hard to use except to make IEDs/nukes).
Takeaway: build your heavy build around either defense or assault. That will make your picks easy.

[frail kite]

sounds good

[boreal laurel]

LIGHT
My build: sword, cloak, glitch grenade, stun gun, pyro grenade
I’ll be honest: I’m not good at light. But here’s my two cents’ worth…
Overall, the MP5 and V9S are the best light weapons because of their versatility. Everything else is situation-specific. Use shotgun, M11, knives, sword, and dagger if playing an assassin style. For range, the rifles can work, but I don’t recommend them. They don’t help your play or your team that much.
Cloak is probably the most forgiving ability on light. Grapple and dash can work, but you have to get good. Cloak is for ambushing and assassinating, dash for outplaying opponents, and grapple for positioning and traversal (you wouldn’t believe how fast you can cross the map with well-used grappling). As always, pick what suits you.
If you’re playing anything but Bank It, definitely bring the glitch grenade to clear enemy mines, shields, etc. and mess with defenders. Stun gun will help your assassin build, but don’t lean too heavily on it—in a 1v1, a stunned enemy can still nail you. It’s a force multiplier only—not a substitute for skill. Other than that, basically all of the other gadgets are viable. I just use pyro to deal with gas.
Takeaway: I don’t play light much 😉

[swift knot]

diamond ranked add me fizzyspark#3899

[wide tapir]

silver ranked add me

[warm lion]

This isn't an LFG channel

[hardy latch]

lmao

[soft juniper]

Where’s the dagger?

[rocky field]

Ew no

[boreal laurel]

There’s two of them… 😉

Seriously though, anyone who plays knives has guts. Or is way too self-confident, but we won’t talk about that…

[soft juniper]

Dagger does take time to learn

[boreal laurel]

Also true

And time to recover from the PTSD it causes when your enemies use it… (Ask me how know that)

[soft juniper]

oh boy a story

[boreal laurel]

IKR

[soft juniper]

because I know cloake and dagger is a great start but people who can Dash and dagger are more scary

[boreal laurel]

I can’t argue. I think that’s what the one guy who kept ambushing me had. Never saw him until it was too late…

[dawn nova]

I’m a sniper and TK main

[soft juniper]

Im working on Dash and Dagger (DD for short) and the hardest thing is learning spacing so you can charge and then dash behind them and backstab them at the same time

[boreal laurel]

Then kudos to you. Except I hope you’re a better sniper than the people I keep getting stuck with…

[dawn nova]

Check out my vids if you’d like 🫡 80% of lights are ass. 90% of sniper players are ass. I’m definitely not the 90% 💀

[soft juniper]

Im gona be honest I dont like seeing sniper because all I see they do is Fish for kills and never try to get objectives or reposition better

[boreal laurel]

They’re only good if they actually help the team. In that case though they can be game-changers.

[dawn nova]

Exactly why I said 90% of snipers are ass lmao. I’m an aggressive player AND I still support the team and clutch up cash outs

[soft juniper]

Like don’t get me wrong I love a good sniper and I wish I was good with one

[thick skiff]

had a game today where both my teammates were on snipers

worst game of the night by far

[soft juniper]

If the game mode is bank it best you can do is wait at cash outs and steal others money

[devout schooner]

Hi

[clever mirage]

Heil bomb ( PLS )

[pearl ridge]

Whenever I see a teammate with a sniper I 99% expect them to throw the game lol

[chrome dock]

I just had an instance where I hit someone with a stun gun but they did a quick 180 turn on me.... how is that possible? or was this person cheating some how?

[junior salmon]

you can turn now when stun gun hits.

[dusk blaze]

Sup guys. Anyone know if they’re nerfing c4s?

[lucid geode]

convert your game sensitivity from the game your coming from

[cursive wolf]

nope

[limber gull]

The best nuke nerf would be having the C4 weigh the barrels down, and reducing the barrels health.

This nerfs the tactic but doesn't nerf the heavy class itself.

Recon senses just need to be reset to where it was before it was buffed.

The complaints about invisibility and double barrel have almost completely gone away with the ADS patch, and people discovering that recon is an effective counter.

The issue with lights are their viability in competitive play.

It's an extremely high skill class to use.

Ranked mode has players maximizing strategies. This is why nukes, defib, heals, etc are so prevalent.

It would take a highly skilled team player to run light in a ranked mode that by it's nature and ours is filled with meta strategies to insure a win.

The light could use a few more team play gadgets, but it doesn't need a nerf.

Competitive gaming destroys enjoyable gameplay because the win is more important than the experience.

[chrome dock]

when was that change implemented? cuz I can barely move when i get hit

[cursive wolf]

What is the best weapon right now?

[dense granite]

Hm I agree

[limber gull]

Embark.

Recon senses is a great ability.

Please don't listen to the opinions of the players wanting it changed because it's countering them.

The only "nerf" it needs is to be rolled back from it's buff patch.

I'd hate to see these fun and powerful abilities get nerfed into weaker versions that become useless.

I'm really enjoying the gameplay.

I main:

Light: Dash+Sword

Medium:
FCAR+Turret

Heavy:
Charge+Sledge

[dense granite]

Meow

[warm lion]

turning as in it doesn't reduce sensitivity anymore

[dusk blaze]

c4s on barrels are way too strong lets be be honest

[golden adder]

Any ability where you can see anyone on the map with no counterplay or indication you’re being wall hacked is one of the least well-thought out abilities I’ve ever seen.

Sonar grenade is exactly what a balanced recon sense looks like.

[warm lion]

i mean you can hear recon

[graceful quiver]

🔥