📂┇the-finals-wiki

[lapis kindle]

what’s this for?

[lost marsh]

some ospuze charms

idk where are those from tho

[lapis kindle]

they’re from OB, we already have those

[lost marsh]

good to know, ty

[sour flare]

updated holtow appearance table
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Holtow

some images haven't been updated. if you have the image for that item, it would be great if you could upload it. thanks!

[minor finch]

Some of these images have already been uploaded and follow the naming convention of Rarity_ITEM_NAME-Additional_Info

So in the case of the helmet, it's currently on the wiki as Epic_HOLTOW_RIDER_HELMET.png
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sponsorships#HOLTOW-0

[sour flare]

thanks didnt check this one

[lost marsh]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Ivada
Did it, will be adding more cosmetics to the page

[sterile fjord]

I miss these days

[autumn field]

Can the wiki get translated to other languages? I'd be happy to help with spanish!

[compact talon]

hi idk how to edit the wiki but the turret can also be disabled by throwing smoke on it

[willow ice]

Updated it, is this better?

[compact talon]

Yes now put ads on the wiki and pay me 100% of the revenue for my amazing contribution please

[willow ice]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1188886800584937543.png?size=160&name=STARE

[compact talon]

but actually tho thank you for adding it :))

[willow ice]

np

[sour flare]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Battle_Pass
all battlepass page is up

[lapis kindle]

nice. i don't think we need the "every season BP" section tbh

i'll also work on some images for S0 BPs that are more standardized

[sour flare]

ok

[lost marsh]

lmk if there's anything left out in IVADA cosmetics besides the last page of BP, will add it once I unlock it

going to add weapons and expresions now

[sour flare]

why the image that you upload crispy lol

[lost marsh]

idk

oh wait, might be amd

might be this

yeah I think that's it

[lost marsh]

is there something wrong w them being a little crispy? I can reupload them

[sour flare]

nothing wrong just asking

[lapis kindle]

would recommend that images have no filters so it shows the cosmetics as they truly appear in-game

[lost marsh]

sure

[lost marsh]

Ivada page done

[heavy gale]

nice work

[lost marsh]

just found out the rambo set is ivada too, crazy

[bold tangle]

Ooooohh unluckyyy

You got 70, you're 1 off of the optimal number to get

[lost marsh]

what does count as IVADA

cuz you know each BP page is from a specific sponsor

this watch is ivada, does that mean all of the other stuff is too?

[lapis kindle]

i would only add the ones that actually the sponsor logo on it, even if the entire page is "related" to them. that would be more accurate imo

[lost marsh]

[willow ice]

are Arena Carriables, Liftables? Are they the same?

[sour flare]

yes

[willow ice]

updated Data Reshaper rotation

glitch barrel does go in to random

oversight from the devs i'm assuming, because it should go to red canister

[sour flare]

huh that's weird to look

[violet lance]

I think stuff like grenades and rpgs turn into a random flower pot. I'm not sure tho, haven't played reshaper since S2...

[willow ice]

they're considered enemy deployables

but i might edit it to make it more clear

[haughty lake]

I've seen this on youtube before

was it leaked?

[lost marsh]

idk, don't think so

[lapis kindle]

it wasn’t. these were shown on Twitchcon

[lost marsh]

yes that

[rose geyser]

Has anyone found any sponsors on the Chopperaider skin bundle? Would be interesting if it didn't have any, given even the fire department is sponsored by Ospuze.

[lost marsh]

fire department isn't sponsored by ospuze, it's just a collab, IVADA hammer has the fire department logo too

[rose geyser]

Seems Ivada and Ospuze are sharing a fair share this season

[lost marsh]

just like City Lancer top is a collab with DXZ

[lost marsh]

yes they are the main sponsors of this season, most of the BP is just IVADA and OSPUZE

[rose geyser]

Then I imagine no luck with sponsors on the Chopperaider set

[lapis kindle]

also next time, would recommend checking in #easter-eggs first as hunters are the first ones to check this kind of stuff

[rose geyser]

Checking in with them also, but after all, most information of the Finals ends up here somehow

[haughty lake]

ah makes sense

[sour flare]

this ivada right?

[lost marsh]

it's kinda unclear

[sour flare]

but i think it is

[lost marsh]

maybe but some skins have barcodes

[lapis kindle]

yes, it is one of their graphic elements

[lost marsh]

but some skins like dissun use barcodes too right?

wait it is ivada, the X

[sour flare]

sponsor collab is a thing you know

[lapis kindle]

IVADA has a very specific one like that above

it’s part of their brand elements

[sour flare]

x7//av and ivada

[violet lance]

DXZ also has that X in some cosmetics iirc

I just noticed the BP Lvl 16 Outfit has Ivadas slogan on the back:
"IVADA: EQUIP. ENGAGE. EXCEL."

[violet lance]

It's still missing in the wiki. I'll add it in a few hours if someone else hasn't until then

[lapis kindle]

tons of things are missing, so thanks

[lost marsh]

nice

[verbal drum]

can you choose teams in a custom match

[sour flare]

nope i think it's random

[verbal drum]

oh

so you cant do like 2 v 2 v 3 and what not

[sour flare]

oh you mean like that? idk

[verbal drum]

nah like choosing teams is what i meant
surely you should be able to choose teams but yea

[sour flare]

choose team name?

[verbal drum]

no just which one of my friends is on my team

[sour flare]

nah idk man sory

[verbal drum]

all good, ig this is a suggestion for the game

[lost marsh]

yes

[verbal drum]

oh no you can i just figured out how

[lost marsh]

you can, it's from the order of people joining

[verbal drum]

you just enter with ur 3 man or 2 man an whatnot

[lost marsh]

tht too

[violet lance]

Who are the real official sponsors of S4?

The Season 4 page says Holtow, Iseult and Engimo are the official sponsors.
Ivadas page says that they are an official sponsor.

Ivada & Ospuze are in the BP and the 2 extra pages.
Ivada & Ospuze are in the bottom of the S4 teaser.
Holtow, Iseult and Engimo are in the bottom of the S4 trailer.

Did scotty/june ever mention the "official" official sponsors?

[lapis kindle]

we had this convo last week. technically the only official listed ones are these 3, even though we know OSPUZE and IVADA sponsor the BP (and potentially future WT stops)

[sour flare]

i thought change the game was cns slogan

[lapis kindle]

it’s OSPUZE’s. CNS using it is more of a lore related thing rather that it being their slogan

although, you could argue it’s a THE FINALS slogan more accurately

probably best to remove it. i wrote that description back in S0 when we had very little info

[sour flare]

it's kinda confusing idk

[violet lance]

It could be replaced with WHO. NEEDS. WATER. if that one is still missing

[lapis kindle]

like i said, it’s only confusing if you don’t know the lore. so best to change it to what Nova mentioned above

[lapis kindle]

CNS technically doesn’t have slogans. they use tons of phrases to deliver a message and they’re not an official sponsor of the game. if you want, you can add this as appearances but also check #easter-eggs as it’s tightly related to the hunt

[distant wyvern]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/NVdRYqqwFL

Sonar now breakable

[bleak jetty]

Heres some more of the holtow stuff without the locked symbol

[lost marsh]

how do you farm that much fans

[minor finch]

@narrow knot is it still possible to get full size keyarts from old events? like the Dissun Helmet render
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GU8ugYjXwAAxPXR?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

I've been updating https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Events and have added cropped versions in their place

[willow ice]

HOLTOW, ISEULT and ENGIMO sponsor Season 4

OSPUZE and IVADA sponsor the Season 4 Battlepass

Officially, it's just the first 3, but I guess technically it's all 5.

[willow ice]

What do you guy think is more clear?

"Enemy throwables" or 'Enemy projectiles"

Referring to things like Grenades, RPGs

[minor finch]

I'd say throwables because "projectiles" includes things like CL-40 and Sniper shots

[willow ice]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-gif-26660577

[violet lance]

I wonder if the sniper projectile is reshapeable 🤔

[willow ice]

[wary rover]

Should the "Random Barrel" icon be an "Oil Barrel"? I feel like this is confusing:
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Data_Reshaper

[wary rover]

I think throwables are more clear, but I would not assume that included RPG

[sour flare]

what image it should be then

[wary rover]

Hmm, What about a cylindrical outline?

[wary rover]

idk, I thought it would be fun to try my hand at an attempt:

It wouldn't look any good haha
Maybe just a big question mark would look better, idk

Yeah, I think that concept fits better. ~w~;

[heavy gale]

The question mark looks weird imo but it'll do until we find a better alternative, maybe the symbol for random/shuffle that music apps tend to use

[sour flare]

what about a gif?

and we should remove the "from..."

[wary rover]

That's a good idea!
Also, I just slapped a screenshot into an art program just to show concepts - none of my above are live.

[willow ice]

It should be a lot better now and more clear with the wording too

@heavy gale I'm trying to edit this so there's no blank line, but whenever I publish the changes it adds it back, any idea how to fix this?

[minor finch]

is this what you have in mind?

[willow ice]

Yes

[minor finch]

source edit
Any [[Gadgets|enemy throwable]]<br><small>(including [[RPG-7]])</small>

[heavy gale]

ah mediawiki and loving to encase stuff within <p> Raids one should do

[willow ice]

thank youuuuuu

also - thoughts on the random icons?

[minor finch]

I like them

[minor finch]

If we're on the topic of mediawiki, do you have any idea why some articles include this empty space? Their source looks no different to other articles, as far as I can tell.

[willow ice]

unrelated but the naming discrepancies on the wiki are killing me

I understand why they are called "Smoke Canisters" on the wiki, but the name should be "Powder Canisters"

[heavy gale]

fixed

it was caused by the infobox gamemode template as the Infobox template started technically on a new line which mediawiki always uses <p> for new lines.

[minor finch]

thanks

[heavy gale]

so just moving --> <includeonly>{{Infobox|

to

--><includeonly>{{Infobox| fixed it

[minor finch]

did the wikitable class change? It has a border now 👀

[heavy gale]

oh

looks like they may have updated the citizen skin

yeah, they updated the citizen skin

well you now have pure black mode which doesn't even work properly from what I can see

if you like pure black

wonder if them updating it is going to break any css changes we made to the skin

[minor finch]

one more thing, if it's not just my browser, the edit button shrunk

[heavy gale]

yes it has

ah it's missing it's little edit icon for some reason

[willow ice]

The edit icon shows for me and then disappears after like 2 seconds

btw any1 know where the "Tip of the day" comes from?

[minor finch]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Tips
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:DailyRandomTip

[heavy gale]

and https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Module:RandomTableRow

but I don't suggest changing that module

[willow ice]

thank you! yeah just looking at the tips and maybe adding some

[minor finch]

I only just switched all of these to the wikitable class, and now the new border looks weird 😭

might go back to the default lineless table

a template would might be better actually, for this specific type of content

[heavy gale]

is the wiki dead now?

nope, just took forever to load

[willow ice]

wouldn't be suprised

[narrow knot]

I think it's just asking Dusty

[minor finch]

ohh is that how you uploaded them before?

[minor finch]

regardless, I will leave @golden laurel a friendly ping

[narrow knot]

Community event banners are uploaded to encrypted game archives, and the rest are uploaded to files just like videos

[willow ice]

she been gone for like a week 😭

[minor finch]

I hope she's having a nice autumn relax

[sour flare]

anybody got this?

[heavy gale]

yep

[sour flare]

thought it was me

[heavy gale]

on the bright side, the edit button seems to be back to normal size

[minor finch]

all Emerald rewards are on the wiki

[heavy gale]

Danke Raid

[minor finch]

now I just need to chase down people who played ranked last season

[lost marsh]

good luck w that

[heavy gale]

it'll be fine

[lapis kindle]

i'll upload the weapons skins soon

[lost marsh]

what do you need from ranked players'

[minor finch]

thank you!

[minor finch]

for each ranked item, its

• small icon
• name
• description

[lost marsh]

gotchu

[narrow knot]

Emerald Prime // Your strength is more than just physical - it's just radiant.

[lapis kindle]

ty, i’ll mask/add them soon

[sour flare]

this is for wiki

[torn plover]

I updated the info with the dagger and added some extra details, sorry for all the weird edits, got the hang of it now.

[sour flare]

thats alot of edit

added iseult appearance
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/ISEUL-T

[lost marsh]

the cosmetic card is really cool omg

[minor finch]

Is there any way we could contribute at this stage? Like preparing information for cosmetics ahead of time.

[worthy spear]

Prolly a little brain fart on ur part but the cosmetic introduction says "holtow" not Iseul-t

[sour flare]

don't have to call me "brain fart" ill fix it in 5 seconds

done!

[lost marsh]

everyone makes mistakes tbh I see back sometimes stuff that I did and notice mistakes

[worthy spear]

Mb I wasn't calling you that I was just saying maybe ur brain kinda skimmed over that one, I didn't mean to be be mean lol

[proud rivet]

Are the commentators ai genarated voices or real voice actors?

[lost marsh]

I believe the original voices are real actors and after that they used their voices to generate more voicelines

[heavy gale]

There hasn't been much development on it, been busy with other things sadly. Hoping to have a look into it

[minor finch]

Gotcha, well if you arrive at a format for storing cosmetic data, let me know and I'd be happy to start compiling

[lost marsh]

Finally finished the ivada page, added the rest of the cosmetics that should be all cosmetics related to or with IVADA logo, also changed it so it uses cosmetic card instead of just images, would like to receive some feedback and if I missed anything!
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Ivada

[sour flare]

forgot to tell you that it's only for cosmetics that have the sponsor logo on them. but whatever you already include the cosmetic that relate to ivada

[rancid bronze]

does anyone has some description for every brand in game and what they serve?

[sour flare]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sponsors
this is all we have

[rancid bronze]

Do we have information of if sponsorships are gonna be still present in next season

[sour flare]

i mean yes of course it is gonna be in the next season

[lost marsh]

It's easier to delete than add cosmetics, but there's some stuff that doesn't have the sponsor logo yet it has stuff related to it like L.E.D weapons and stickers and so on, but you can delete the ones you think are irrelevant or just lmk and I'll do it

[sour flare]

nah it's fine ill just leave em like that

[lost marsh]

[willow ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1089902659911295006/1292391663766867978/95sjml.gif

ok not down but like 30 second load times, that's my complaint

[lapis kindle]

💀

until the Wiki gets another hosting, i'm afraid we're just gonna have to deal with it

[willow ice]

@lone monolith

https://tenor.com/bwSAd.gif

profesional CM annoyer

i only annoy the BEST CMs

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-13615098530330361084

[willow ice]

we get sponsors every season, like a guarantee basically

[minor finch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979636945690972170/1013988756996501584/image0-32.gif?ex=670e72de&is=670d215e&hm=fe83922936c1bd2029c10eb61c3851c10111e770e79e8a54de981e6bb75c830d&

Fixed

[sour flare]

added eno+rino page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Eno%2Brino

also update some of the sponsor logo

also move this 3 no name brand lower

[lone monolith]

I'm gonna have to make a bot to respond to you and ludo with a "Eventually"

[lost marsh]

do the X7 AV has any relation to ivada or DXZ?

[lapis kindle]

we don’t know the relationship between any of these brands outside of them appearing together in some of the cosmetics

[willow ice]

I think you mean a

[sour flare]

is this accurate? found on reddit

[lost marsh]

might be

crazy that there's no amethyst L or M badge

that we have seen

[willow ice]

chat why is this button not in english

[sour flare]

mediawiki bug

[heavy gale]

If you click the little account icon in the bottom left you should be able to change the language to English

[willow ice]

I am in English, think it's a bug

[sour flare]

from: @slate rock hey, can't post on wiki page. It is accurate. Have photos for everyone. Low badges were grinded out on smurf account specifically for them
The only badge that could be questioned is the money amethyst one. As it's between 228M and 440M. 250M is quoted in the wiki originally, people keep referring to it and it is the logical progression Diamond to Amethyst one. However any value of 250/300/350/400M is possible theoretically

[minor finch]

Thanks @slate rock!

Balise is the only person I know with the Amethyst cash badge. When I asked him, he had about 440m total, I assume Coco got their data from him too. So it's not definite, but I'm relatively confident in 250m, maybe 300m.

[minor finch]

Thoughts on an ItemCard template, that behaves basically the same as CosmeticCard but without the rarity? something we can use anywhere we see fit, like we do with InfoGridCards

• Text bubble above
• Main content (image or other template)
• Text bubble below
• Plain text
  Concept of some potential use cases https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193672244531052567/1295731567615803474/image.png?ex=670fb78f&is=670e660f&hm=2df9351ce8d0bbf5304b7d7a09d54afa89809258727a7ded40bd4bc1af4d54a2&

I'm not so sure about using it for Leagues, a table still works well, but it's to demonstrate the usability

[lapis kindle]

mm i’m not a fan of it tbh, might be useful for other things

[minor finch]

Fair, right now I'm trying to navigate the balance between standard wiki elements, and the templates we use like InfoGridCards, for presenting information.

On a similar note, any objections to me adding a template that isolates the image+rarity bar part of CosmeticCard? For cases where the 6px margin and other text elements aren't necessary, like https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Events

If modifying/removing the margin could be built into CosmeticCard, that'd of course be even better

[minor finch]

Here's an example of the standard element vs custom template thing. I'm not sure which of these would make more sense to be on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sights

[lapis kindle]

i honestly don’t mind the table, it’s very easy to read/understand (in this context)

we could have the other template just in case. depends on what it’s used for

[minor finch]

do you mean the ItemCard thing, or the template used for Sights above?

[lapis kindle]

the template for Sights. i don’t entirely understand the ask about the ItemCard

[minor finch]

the template used for the sights is InfoGridCards, just wanted to clear that up

[bleak jetty]

Heres the hammer skin without the lock

[bleak jetty]

and hoodie too, noticed that still had locked symbol

Are the sponsorship titles past 20 documented anywhere yet?

[minor finch]

Added both

[tropic path]

I wonder if they'll add scotty's victory dance as an emote

[lost marsh]

Ivada might be a military corporation with all the stuff military related they've released

[lapis kindle]

yeah it’s been theorized for a while now, we’ll see

[languid wing]

Hello, does anyone here know how to calculate the fans? So what stats do the fans count in at the end of the round?

[slate rock]

I've collected 45 WT/Ranked game data for fans and tried plugging it into chatgpt to get some clues. Every time I get an answer of multiple stats calculated for the fans, and the formula is quite complicated in the end

[marble badger]

this was said in the chat yesterday #⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[slate rock]

True, support score seems to do a lot. My buddy who plays medium heal beam every game has like 50% more fans then I who play heavy. However, that's where the science ends pretty much

[robust magnet]

Maybe but given the other outfits they have created for example the fencing outfit or the techwear style outfits. But their slogan is special because it sounds military "Equip, Engage, Excel".

I feel more like it's a virtual fashion company.

[sour flare]

update scotty and june page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Scotty_and_June

[sour flare]

update 3 other ceo page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sofia_Petronelle
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sal_Scoria
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Mackenzie_Lapis

[cunning frigate]

The Sonar Nade page has some incorrect data.

Ok, so @brave prism and I did some tests on sonar nade destructibility.

I have footage if anyone really cares, but the basic rules are:

Fire, Explosions, Melee Weapons, and Quick Melee: Can break them.

Regular Bullets: Cannot break them.

[slate rock]

I can debunk that immediately. I've been shooting them out the entire season with any weapon. They get destroyed, usually by 3-5 bullets but they do.

[ripe mural]

Is there a way to see the patch history affecting certain weapons? So you can see how it got changed over time?

[heavy gale]

yesn't, some weapon pages have patch notes, some don't....it's a work in progress which I need to actually finish at some point

[celest citrus]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sponsorships

I think we should add the titles for each page of the sponsor track somewhere on the page and that after page 4 you get the "rising star" title

Rookie, Up'N'Comer, Fan Favourite, Pro, Rising Star

[celest citrus]

I'm also trying to find out if the rising star has a limit or whether it just keeps going, so far the #2 on the leaderboard is at rising star level 25 and he's at 400k fans

[sour flare]

is deathmatch game show events gone?

[lapis grotto]

Incredible idea my friend

[heavy gale]

maybe one day it'll actually be a thing

[sour flare]

yeah i hope they put more game show events

[torn plover]

Hello, I have made some changes to the cloaking device on the wiki and will continue to monitor it as there is some really bad information about how the mechanics work. The section on "tactics" was misinformation and anyone that would follow it would make themselves a free kill :(

[lapis kindle]

any updates are welcome, most of these pages haven’t been touched since before S3. whatever you can do to make it more accurate is welcome

[torn plover]

it's not even outdated information, it just straight up misinformation, but yeah I'll update anything I see

[heavy gale]

It's always the problems when you have stuff like "tatics" on pages as some tactics can work for people and not others or something they put down a that tactic might cause more problems even if it works for said user who put it

[torn plover]

That's why I try to keep it as objective as possible, when someone writes move slowly to be harder to spot and hear, it's misinformation, because I've done extensive testing and have over 1k hours with cloak and regardless of your movement, your visibility and audibility is the same (except when motionless)

[cunning frigate]

I'm not home atm, but I have clips of me unloading into sensor nades and not destroying them.

Fire, explosions, quick melee, and melee weapons all seemed to reliably work.

That being said, it was hard to test since they took solo bank-it from custom mode.

It'd be odd and worth adding if allied bullets don't destroy it, but all the aforementioned damage does. If enemy bullets do destroy sonar nades, that makes their destructiblity seem even more like a bug that it already does.

Zero consistency.

[slate rock]

So I think what's happening here, you're testing your own sonars. Which is different.
Enemy sonars can be destroyed by ANYTHING.

[cunning frigate]

No, @brave prism threw the sonars, I was the one destroying them.

We had to be on the same team due to custom game limitations.

But that doesn't change that it's bizarre that allies can destroy friendly Sonars with some kinds of damage, but not others.

[slate rock]

Yeah that's how turrets work

Or at least that's how it used to be. You couldn't shoot your teammates turrets, so you couln't grief. Anyways, regarding custom games. Here's how you get on different teams:

Start a private game alone
Copy the code and give it to your friend to join.
And now you'll join the game in different teams.

[minor finch]

I've overhauled https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Limited_Time_Modes to be more informative and include more details, such as exact loadout limitations for each mode, and to follow a similar format to other gamemode articles.

[minor finch]

Added two new templates: {{SeeAlso}} (copied from {{Main}}) and {{NotMaintained}} which adds a banner to articles like Bundles that purposefully aren't updated anymore.

Feel free to revert of course, especially if there's already some wikimedia feature that makes the last template redundant.

[sour flare]

why not just delete that page

[minor finch]

up to admins, I'm not familiar with the deletion policy

when we last talked about it, "archived" was the language used

[sour flare]

[willow ice]

Smoke_Canister has been moved to Powder_Canister

All pages that mention Smoke Canisters (or linked there) have been updated to link Powder Canisters instead

I can sleep peacefully knowing the wiki is using the correct Canister terminologies

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-anna-gunn-skyler-white-yo-crying-gif-14653036763871554707

@heavy gale unsure who I talk to regarding this :P, but I have to assume the logo is not meant to be squished?

[sour flare]

it's a powder???

oh wait it is lol

[heavy gale]

yeah that always surprises people

[heavy gale]

I am aware

[void path]

I've seen some chatter about the math on fans, but nothing concrete. I believe each kill is worth 10 fans. Might do some math myself if i remember to write down enough games

[minor finch]

Added {{VRIcon}} that can be used in the same way as {{MultibuckIcon}}

The icon recreation could be made cleaner, but I think it works for now.

[sour flare]

isnt vrs icon supposed to be yellow?

[tawdry sail]

They can be white too if I remember well

[minor finch]

They can appear in yellow, white, and black. Using white on the wiki just makes most sense to me. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075151392014073957/1236069835306434590/what_is_this.png?ex=6716217d&is=6714cffd&hm=6ca7dc16c90b361db02912c389aa97fb3e21d3017eab6818ba2457de60c636b9&

That said, it's hard to see in light mode. If we could make the template display different files depending on the user's theme, that would be nice.

or just apply filter: invert();

[sour flare]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-oh-damn-oh-daymn-daym-damn-gif-2649905700736798302

[minor finch]

Luke can correct me but I think just this in Citizen.css would do the trick

.skin-citizen-light .template-vr-icon img {
  filter: invert() !important;
}```

[heavy gale]

added

[slate rock]

Saw this reddit comment:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1g6y5qo/all_but_confirmed_combat_score_will_gain_you_zero/lsmnkf4/

Basically saying Fan calculation is different for each class. Light and heavy getting fans for kills mostly and mediums for support score

[void path]

I think its strange, and might even be gamemode dependent. For example in bank it, i joined late into a match, got 1 kill and the game ended. Happened twice, 10 fans each time

Also in bank it, i get pretty much 0 support score and average 500 fans per match, so there are some funky things going on for sure.

[lost marsh]

wrong channel for that

[lost marsh]

just noticed there's alr stuff added to each sponsor lol

[mint jungle]

I coulda just thrown it in here for you if I knew this is where it was needed. 😂

[void path]

I've been doing some science on the fans calculations, and while im not satisfied with the results yet, it at least gives a rough idea (in my opinion). Keep in mind that this is for light in bank it, and the numbers are likely nice and rounded, im just missing some factor.

[crude aurora]

Anyone knows how much point it takes to hit emerald 2 ?

[minor finch]

2,200 https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/World_Tour

[crude aurora]

Thanks, didn’t know you can see the progress in the website honestly

[cunning frigate]

Ok, so...

Enemy Sonar Grenades can be shot/exploded/burned/etc.

Allied Sonar Grenades cannot be shot, but, they can be exploded/burnt/quick melee'd/hit by melee weapons.

Very inconsistent.

Explosions and fire I get for the most part, but why quick melee and melee weapons?

[proud rivet]

What is the best reticle/crosshair settings

[lost marsh]

whatever you like best, but I like to use the square ones so I can understand better the spread

[proud rivet]

Can show me a picture?

[lost marsh]

everything inside the square is where bullets would go

[proud rivet]

OK interesting 👍

[lost marsh]

example with the model, but try whatever you like more

[proud rivet]

Should I keep in world crosshair on or off?

[heavy gale]

If it's off then it's static in the center, if it's on it basically follows the camera

[proud rivet]

What's better?

[heavy gale]

I use it off but it's personal preference

[lost marsh]

off

[proud rivet]

What should I keep the opacity and the thickness for this stuff?

[heavy gale]

This is very not wiki related

[lost marsh]

opacity 100% thickness arround 3-4 more than that and it's too thick

[proud rivet]

Thank you

[minor finch]

Floating this as an idea, seeking opinions

more examples on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid

[lapis kindle]

looks like a good QoL change

[lost marsh]

looks cool, maybe a little hard to read

but I like it, reduces the space rarity takes on the wikitable

[heavy gale]

    --rarity-epic: #df4d92;
    --rarity-rare: #2bb2d4;
    --rarity-common: #13c3a6;
    --rarity-none: #575757;

for ease of life if rarity colours ever change for whatever reason, might be worth using the above vars instead of just hardcoding the colour into the css

[lost marsh]

I also suggest you to use cosmetic cards for images they end up looking so much better and you can save some space

[heavy gale]

so background-color: #13c3a6; == background-color: var(--rarity-common) instead

the vars are in Citizen.css so don't need to define them

[lapis kindle]

this is also a good option

[lost marsh]

I am wondering abt removing the rarity column bc I think ends up as somewhat redundant, idk

[lapis kindle]

honestly, considering players are already familiar with it, we can get rid of that column

[heavy gale]

also I saw you had a concept for the Monaco arena page @minor finch, how'd that go 👀

[heavy gale]

might need to put a colour key somewhere just in case someone who isn't aware of what the colours mean can understand

[violet lance]

I just noticed that every iron sight has the AKM as "In-Game" image. I think it'd be better to show the iron sight of the weapon.

[heavy gale]

I'm going to guess it's basically a placeholder

[minor finch]

I only grabbed one screenshot of each sight yeah. It would be nice to have examples of each on every weapon.

They were originally uploaded just for https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sights, so I hadn't considered taking more at that point.

[minor finch]

That's just me experimenting with using more standard wiki elements and formats, like a plain text opening paragraph instead of one contained inside a template (as is the case with Arena articles). I feel like it would help with accessibility, embeds, SEO, etc. There's a fine balance I'm trying to navigate.

[heavy gale]

I liked it

[minor finch]

I've wondered about this, tbh I don't know if the rarity bar belongs in the column designated for icons. Removing the rarity column also reduces the amount of literal information included in the table, meaning rarity is communicated purely visually.

But if we do go for it, I suggest a new template separate from CosmeticCard with 100x100px images and no margins, to keep things consistent.

quick comparison

[lost marsh]

I like how it looks on the right

you could even put the level unlock under each cosmetic but that's just personal choice atp

[crude aurora]

How does the Fans system work ?

I gain so so little per game

[minor finch]

I think this one would detract from the table's purpose and how it's designed to provide information

just my take

[lost marsh]

fair take

[lost marsh]

it seems to depend in gamemode and performance, light seems to benefit more from KDA and combat score and medium more from support score, heavy is also like light it seems

but yeah support score benefits a lot

also Bank it is the mode that gives the most fans

[crude aurora]

Good to know

[violet lance]

We could also just remove the table altogether if we remove more cols...

Cards could also be a way to show BP lvls. They'd probably look better on mobile too. This is a quick design I made in figma:

[heavy gale]

I think that might be hitting the "too styled" for a wiki

[narrow knot]

It would be possible to add a small window with information when hovering over an item or link
(but this is like a separate extension for Wiki as far as I know)

[slate rock]

Does anyone want to include this difference in thermal vision page?

[sour flare]

that might be a bug

thermal vision is kinda wonky in this game

[slate rock]

If it is, feel free to report it. This is how it's been working for at least 2 seasons now

[steady nymph]

what are these?

I found it in teams/sponsor/brands webpage of the wiki

are they connected to The Finals?

[violet lance]

Those logos can be found on a few cosmetics

[rugged spear]

how much kills is the golden badge

[steady nymph]

Interesting. These logo's are the same as the factions on Arc Raiders

[violet lance]

3000

[rugged spear]

alright cheers

[minor finch]

I suppose we're changing the labels to the store prices?

[sour flare]

maybe yes...

[heavy gale]

uhhhhhh, most likely

we'll give it like a few days and see if anything happens

[sour flare]

what do you mean if anything happens lol

[lapis kindle]

we can have both labels then

[minor finch]

is this the end of every label fitting into one line 😔

this day was inevitable lol

[lost marsh]

you can left it on the BP page like that and change it everywhere else to MB price

maybe add both? idk

[daring pulsar]

is it actually called the "Meatspace" or is it misspelled "Metaspace"

[sour flare]

yes Meat Space

[daring pulsar]

thats wild

[lapis kindle]

it was a common term used in the early days of the internet to refer to IRL

[daring pulsar]

oh yh, just searched it up, goofy ahh word

[sour flare]

i don't know maybe you should check game announcements

[minor finch]

Raising some potential sidebar updates since only admins can edit it

• add Fortune Stadium to Arenas
• remove Bundles from Cosmetics
• "Battle pass" -> "Battle Pass"
• "SYS$Horizon" -> "SYS$HORIZON"

[heavy gale]

[lapis kindle]

i wouldn’t use uppercase in the menu so either Sys$Horizon or just Horizon

[solar abyss]

After some testing, it seems that a revive with medium is worth exactly 25 fans (tested with defib)

[tiny tapir]

#game-announcements

[dire crown]

Is duskvane the OSPUZE champion?

[lapis kindle]

no, there is no evidence suggesting that it's a character. it's simply a cosmetic atm

[minor finch]

seems like the name was changed back to Proximity Sensor?
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Motion_Sensor

[heavy gale]

back to proximity sensor it goes I guess

[sonic scroll]

Took you long enough to find out lol

[heavy gale]

helpful

[echo turtle]

How much points is it to get to emerald?

[minor finch]

https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/World_Tour

[opal vector]

And how can i check the community event items in wiki?

Twitch drops, is it live now like i can go watch and i’ll get them, and the community event defib i saw some people had it so is it done?

[sour flare]

i dont think anyone update that new event yet

also defib community skin isnt done yet

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Events

[lapis kindle]

items are simply added when one of us uploads it. besides you can check in-game yourself

[opal vector]

What about the twitch drops cuz when go to twitch it should pop up like the last ones

Never mind i found them

[lapis kindle]

@minor finch thanks for uploading the latest charms/stickers. lmk next time so i don't duplicate by mistake

[minor finch]

lol will do

[minor finch]

Can I propose an update to the item page layout, that switches the heading order
(1) Trivia, (2) Videos, (3) Weapon Skins, (4) Change History
to ...
(1) Weapon Skins, (2) Change History, (3) Trivia, (4) Videos

Since skins and change history are more likely to be reasons someone visits a page, and trivia and videos are more circumstantial and less immediately significant.

@pearl fern ping since the current layout is largely your work

[mild verge]

Has the 512 or 51.2 engraving and 125 engraving been solved?

[sour flare]

what are you talking about?

[minor finch]

Hi, this channel is for discussing the wiki itself

[heavy gale]

I agree videos/images should probably go on the bottom probably just labelled "gallery", change history can move higher up but we should probably fill it in more before moving it about as some pages are quite outdated in terms of change log

[minor finch]

on the topic of change history, do you think it should include all bug fixes that affect the item, or only intentional changes to how it performs / behaves?

[heavy gale]

in terms of length I would say just intentional changes to how it performs / behaves would be better. However, in terms of ease and decision if a log should be included, I'd also say everything is fine.

@static light and @lapis kindle, what do you think would be best?

[lapis kindle]

i agree with this

[tropic path]

someone should change meatspace to metaspace in the lore

[lapis kindle]

“meatspace” is an accurate and real word used back in the early days of the internet to refer to IRL. it’s intentional

[tropic path]

oh

i looked at the history and it says it got changed to meatspace, then to metaspace then back to meatspace again

wait im wrong

this is what i saw

[heavy gale]

It was changed to metaspace by someone who thought it was incorrect when it wasn't which is why it was reverted back to meatspace in the next revision

[tropic path]

Ok I get it now

[sour flare]

INDUSTRIES co. ltd.

[fading juniper]

The wiki should have some rough dev information, sample :

Chief Content Officer - Rob Runesson (Battlefield V, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 3, Medal of Honor; Head of Art for Mirrors Edge, Battlefield Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 1)

Creative Director - Gustav Tilleby (Battlefield V, Battlefield 1, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 3, Battlefield Bad Company 2 , Battlefield 2)

Executive producer - Jonathan Lindsay (Dreadnought)

Design Director - Matt Lowe (Outcasters, Dirty Bomb, Brink)

Level Designer - Midas de Laat (Outcasters, Horizon Zero Dawn, Fragments of Him)

Senior Environment Artist - Joakim Stigsson (The Last of Us 2, Battlefield 1, Crysis 3)

Technical Animator - Arvid Burström (Battlefield V, Star Wars Battlefront 2, Mirror's Edge Catalyst, Battlefield 1)

Animation Director - Mikael Högström (Battlefield V, Battlefield 1, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 3)

Weapon Animation - Oskar Wetterbrandt (Battlefield V, Star Wars Battlefront 2, Battlefield 2042)

Sound - Andreas Almström (Battlefield 2042, Battlefield V, Battlefield 1, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 3) and Carl Strandberg (Battlefield 2042, Battlefield V)

Concept Artist - Esbjörn Nord (Battlefield V, Star Wars Battlefront 2)

Character Artist - Urszula Czyz (No Credits)

Brand and Communications Director - Sven Grundberg (Battlefield V)

Note : Christian Martinsson joined in late 2023 and Stefan Strandberg/Bence Pajor are not listed in the dev team

[rain willow]

Embark can we please have clear guidelines for earning fans? This number randomly goes up at the end of my games, and I'm trying to farm the Holtow rewards as fast as possible

[sour flare]

bro just play the game lol, you got like 2 months to finish it

[rain willow]

Yeaaaah that sponsor grind gets exponentially more demanding. Would really help if they explained how that system works when pushing it live..

[cinder island]

he litraly said he wanted it as fast as possible

[sour flare]

well with the latest patch notes its clearly embark doesn't want you to earn it as fast as possible

and i suggest you just play bank it

i got like 400-600 permatch

[pallid iris]

hey! can someone give me a definitive answer for fans? how to gain what is effecting the fan gain and such?

[minor finch]

Unfortunately we just don't have a definitive answer yet

[pallid iris]

someone was talking about scores of support medium kills for light and obj for heavy and such. and they just nerfed the healing beam "exploit" idk what it is

[minor finch]

It's certain actions in-game that reward fans. For example, using the healing beam (but that was disabled today). I expect things like kills, revives, assists, objectives all award their own sum of fans.

The healing beam "exploit" was people abusing the healing beam fan gain and disrupting matches by farming it instead of playing.

[pallid iris]

me and some people included is getting weirdly low fans tho and not with like random end scores there was matches that I was the mvp with at least 2 score types and still getting low amounts. I tried getting kills reviving or playing obj I can't really find out whats the most optimum way to gain fans xd

[sour flare]

I think it’s based on so many factors. That’s why the devs never mention the exact way to gain it

they only say
'We want Fans to be earnable for actions that can be completed regardless of the contestant setup'
and
'Earn Fans by completing contracts and performing well in the arena.'

[pallid iris]

kinda annoying because it takes a good while to get the rewards and I heard some play everyday and still not being able to get proper fan gain

[sour flare]

like if they wanted to explain how to gain it it would be like 1,000 rows of excel paragraph

[pallid iris]

lmao I mean thats not what people ask for but a simple answer with this and this score will earn you fans or the mvp or team factor or coop actions this and that etc etc

[sour flare]

"Earn Fans by completing contracts and performing well in the arena."
this is the simple answer

[sour flare]

and i don't think it's based on "score"

[pallid iris]

performing well is basicly the score tho xd

like its annoyingly confusing and mysterious to me idk

[sour flare]

yeah

[pallid iris]

got any suggestions?

[sour flare]

well if you really need the fans i suggest go for the dailies contract and play only bank it

finish the match as fast as possible youll get like 400+ fans from deposit the bank (if you win)

[sour flare]

and they update the fans now i got 1000+ fans from winning in bank it

[lofty blaze]

Yo guys, i have a question. currently im not home and therefore not able to gain tickets for the wheel for 2’days, Am i still able to get every single reward from the event???

[lost marsh]

wrong channel to ask, but maybe

[lofty blaze]

True youre right

Idk imma just play and see

[crisp depot]

who has wiki link

[static light]

Welcome to THE FINALS Wiki channel! ➡ https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki

Here we are open to discuss and organize what information is being added to the Wiki and what we can be done to ensure it is always accurate. The rank requirements for the channel are a little bit higher than normal and please keep all chatter related to the Wiki.

[rancid skiff]

Is there a place where I can check every TREAT HUNT wheel rewards ?
I want to figure out which ones are VR-Purchaseable and which ones are not.

[lapis kindle]

i mean you can check in-game but idk if we have the event explained like this on the Wiki yet

[minor finch]

I was considering making an article for the Treat Hunt event itself that includes details about the wheel. By extension, we could make articles for all events deemed significant enough to warrant one, rather than limiting them all to the Events page. Thoughts?

[lapis kindle]

seems reasonable. a case by case basis sounds good to me

not all events will be as “convoluted” as this one in that sense

you can just link them in the Events page and people can find them when searching

[minor finch]

[minor finch]

Article is up featuring all the rewards. It's missing the purchase costs of 4 because I already claimed them and can't check. If anybody could fill those in, that'd be great!

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Treat_Hunt

[heavy gale]

added 3, just missing BOO BLAST now

[pallid furnace]

does the finals use any skill based match making or are servers entirely random?

[mint jungle]

Only in ranked. And even then, their SBMM is kinda.... ehh? a lot of the time. But as far as I'm aware, only in ranked.

[lost marsh]

basic sbmm based on your RS (Ranked Score)

[pulsar wing]

when you lose there is sbmm, when you win there is no sbmm

[sour flare]

with and without |thumb| on mobile

[crude aurora]

What’s the TTK for model against the heavy class ?

[lost marsh]

3 shots

like 1 sec and something?

[crude aurora]

[heavy gale]

probably due to using fixed height/width

I've changed it to using thumb instead of fixed 480px just for mobile friendliness and also it allows Mediawiki to create thumb images which are lower size.

[sour flare]

updated season 4 battlepasspage 7-14 image
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Season_4#Battle_Pass

[compact talon]

1.8s

Time between shots is .9s and it takes 3 shots to kill. Minus the .9s from the first shot because there’s no waiting period for it

[echo turtle]

What's the emerald rewards this season?

[minor finch]

They haven't been revealed yet

[echo turtle]

Kinda weird

[proud rivet]

What was the budget to make THE FINALS?

[haughty lake]

idk if you guys know already buy this is at exactly 300 wins

[tight plaza]

does the wiki have pages for the smaller brands, like the sunglasses brand seen in vegas?

[lapis kindle]

don’t think we have, it’s been mostly sponsor related ones. but these could be added somewhere along the way. maybe as appearances in the arena pages

[slate rock]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Badges

[drifting oracle]

does anyone know who the Holtow commercials' voice actor is?

[sour flare]

i think most of the voice lines like all of them are ai

[drifting oracle]

yes its AI but its based on real people with their consent/paid out

[lapis kindle]

we don’t know who any of the VAs are in the game

[sour flare]

lol i don't even know who voices scotty

and i think it's better that way

[drifting oracle]

that really sucks i would love to hire the guy for a few voice lines 😅

[haughty lake]

it's AI

:/

[heavy gale]

the AI is trained off real voice actors they hire though

[haughty lake]

fair enough

[sour flare]

how do i hide the hud in game?

nvm they disable it

[lapis kindle]

the didn’t. it’s F10 but you can’t use it in Practice Range

[sour flare]

ohhhhh thanks you

[sour flare]

update the https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Arena_Carriables#Types_of_Carriables image and table make it more consistcenta

[sour flare]

we don't put world tour on gamemodes page?

[timid night]

wt and ranked is cashout

[sour flare]

isnt it whole different gamemode?

[timid night]

no

[sour flare]

like we got this pagehttps://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/World_Tour

[sour flare]

so you telling me that cashout and world tour is the same gamemode

[timid night]

wt is 2 rounds of cashout and 1 final round of 2 team qc

same with ranked tournament

and ranked, wt and qc are all gamemodes in which you cash out

[sour flare]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-oh-damn-oh-daymn-daym-damn-gif-2649905700736798302

we can't do this? lol

[sour flare]

i think they just forgot to add world tour link page in there

whatever im just curious

[timid night]

and if they were to add an extra section for wt they would also need to add sections for quick cash and ranked tournament which would make it very overcrowded

[timid night]

where is quick cash

[sour flare]

im just saying i mean example

[violet lance]

The official page counts ranked tournament as a Cash out mode https://www.reachthefinals.com/modes
(WT is missing for some reason)

[timid night]

also you gotta think about phones that would be a pain to scroll through

[violet lance]

and they differentiate between Cash out and Cashout

[sour flare]

fotgot about phone

[sour flare]

embark don't do much on reachtehfinals page

https://thefinals.nexon.com/gameinfo/gamemodes

ita offical ofc

[timid night]

on ultrawide and normal screens it would be great but including phones the current thing is just more user friendly

[sour flare]

ill try on phone

looking fine for me it's look just like every other page that use infocard

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Wetbattery

what do you guys think?

[violet lance]

I don't think we need extra WT, ranked or qc cards. They are Cashout modes imo

[sour flare]

ok

[violet lance]

I'd prefer a Cashout section that has these cards. IF we were to decide to add them

[lapis kindle]

we’ve discussed it before and we settled for keeping it under Cashout since that’s the game mode

[violet lance]

Should we rename the game mode to "Cash out"? I think "Cashout" is the mode with only 1 tournament round

[lapis kindle]

also i feel like we need to promote “searching” on the Wiki. people seem to forget they can also search for things

[lapis kindle]

this is such a minor thing, but it should be kept as shown in-game, whatever that may be atm

[sour flare]

I wanted to add the other skins for gadgets too, but I'm not sure how Spear did the scaling. If I tried, the images might end up bigger or smaller than the rest.

[lapis kindle]

which Gadgets in particular?

[sour flare]

breaching charge?

maybe you update it already it ill check

[lapis kindle]

i've only done the Gadgets that actually have different skins but i haven't updated them, like the Goo or Frag grenades

[sour flare]

but how you do it though?

[lapis kindle]

i grab full screenshots in-game on their default position, manually mask them and then export in a size that has enough bleed to look good on the Wiki

[sour flare]

got it

[sour flare]

which cosmetic that mentions volpe VR tech?

can't find anywhere am i missing something?

[lapis kindle]

this was all revealed back in OB and S1

[sour flare]

cosmetic?

[lapis kindle]

i can’t remember them atm nor am i in-game

[sour flare]

it's okay

[lapis kindle]

check the VOLPE Haptic Jab outfit

[sour flare]

alright thanks you so much

[sour flare]

wait i just see this

it's shutifura logo

have anyone mention this before?

[lapis kindle]

ye you’ll see placeholders in old art

[sour flare]

wait where?

nvm saw it

[lapis kindle]

old discussions, you gotta remember we check everything in #easter-eggs since before the game launched

[sour flare]

that would be really long scroll

[sleek glacier]

i wish the wiki had patch history on related items in balance changes

for example, right now i want to compare the sword nerf to the buff they added last time they changed it, but i dont know which patch it was... so had to dig into the patch notes (it was 4.0.0)

[minor finch]

This is something we do have, but not on all pages yet. For example it's on https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Pike-556 but not Sword.

[austere bridge]

When the game will get ui where we can switch teams & other options in the private match screen

[sleek glacier]

oh snap! I'll add it to the sword then

[sour flare]

in the menu or in game? If it's on the menu you could just switch off the menu and go to loadouts if it's in game It depends on the gamemode you play

nvm i read your question wrong

[austere bridge]

In the private match screen where you can 2v2 with friends

[sour flare]

you cant do that for now i think if you play with your friend like 4 people, the game would just do 3v1 not 2v2

myabe idk dont play much of a private match

[minor finch]

Just added it to https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sword

[minor finch]

oh sorry I didn't catch this, I just added it 😅 thank you though!

[sleek glacier]

lmao when i went to publish your changes were just in

[minor finch]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-lampo-speed-gif-18173027

[austere bridge]

I have tried everything, if you make a private lobby while in a party or invite players in a private lobby, it will be 3v1
.
But if they join via code -
1st & 3rd will be a team
And
2nd & 4th will be a team

[sleek glacier]

how'd you pull up the older patches so quick (and is it complete)?

searching sword in #patch-notes or somesuch

[minor finch]

since the wiki has pages for each patch, you can search for the item on the wiki and find each patch page including it

[sour flare]

right now you only have to pray for embark to add it to the next season

[austere bridge]

💀

I guess we don't have a choice, someday they will add it if they feel to . . . Coz I don't think they monitor these messages TwT

[lapis kindle]

it’s a common feedback, but this channel is just for Wiki purposes

[austere bridge]

Wiki 👀

[hollow wren]

Is there a online archive/library of sound effects for the finals?

[sour flare]

nope i don't think so

[sour flare]

anyone know where this helmet come from?

can't remember when i got this

[lapis kindle]

think i forgot to add it on the Wiki. pretty sure it was a Contract reward

[sour flare]

i already added the image idk what to add at the bottom text

[lapis kindle]

Contract Reward as opt text

[minor finch]

This was part of the S3 Masters circuit stage 3 reward, it was bundled with a lower back counterpart.

I meant to add it to the circuits page too

ty for uploading

[sour flare]

update dissun and dxz page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Dissun
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/DXZ

[copper steeple]

What are all the sponsor titles? Just curious as I finished everything up and then reached rising star 2

[sour flare]

dont think we have that in wiki yet

[feral patio]

Rising Star
Up-n-Comer
Pro

If I remember correctly

[copper steeple]

How far does rising star go? I saw someone say they were rising star 7 so I’m wondering what the person with 700,000k fans has as a title or if it maxes out

[lost marsh]

rookie

[lost marsh]

I don't think it maxes out

[static light]

the wiki when I really need it to load:

[compact talon]

The wiki when you are actually trying to open it vs when you open it on accident or have your tabs come back up when you open your pc

[tranquil python]

whats up with the xx's in dagger desc?

[heavy gale]

good question

[lost marsh]

ivada famas

[jolly tide]

when we getting this outfit embark

[sour flare]

we have to pray embark to add cometa sponsorship in the next season

[sour flare]

anybody got this namatama heart charms description?

[violet lance]

"Make this part of your arsenal of affection in the arena."

[sour flare]

update mascot page!
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Mascots

[heavy gale]

.

also nice

[sour flare]

[rancid skiff]

Tried my luck in #⚡┇the-finals-chat but everyone is communicating via meme gifs so I hope to get an answer here;
Does anyone know the exact end date / time for us to spend our Wheel Turn Tickets for the Treat Hunt Event?

[minor finch]

We have two different dates. The event graphic said November 13, but the wheel says "ends in 3 days" which would be November 15.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbIctbNXYAAdIg5?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[rancid skiff]

Thank you so much for the reply !
Do you believe it's better to earn 3 turns in 2 hours and then spend my Multibucks if I want the most out of the spin tickets? 🤔
Since it shows 2 days for me instead of your 3.
Makes me nervous 😅

[minor finch]

I can't make a recommendation, but personally I think I'll buy the remaining items tonight, just in case it does suddenly end tomorrow. I heard Waterdance mention this to Rob, and (I think) he replied as though November 15 was correct, but I really don't know.

It wouldn't technically be the first time an event has ended early. I think it was Smoking Guns or Steal The Spotlight that ended while it still had 8-12 hours on its countdown.

[minor finch]

@rancid skiff

[slate rock]

To clarify. You can earn tickets up until today, but you can purchase items for the next 3 days. That's why there are 2 different dates

[rancid skiff]

Thank you all for the clarification !

[oblique skiff]

Has the firing time for the AKM been updated after the mag size went down to 32? It should be something like 3.11s not 3.50s.

[minor finch]

btw is there some way to make Discord ignore hidden text?

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Easter_Eggs

[violet lance]

I never noticed that

[static light]

💀

[next fulcrum]

Would be nice if the wiki shown cosmetics equipped on each character or gun instead of thumbnails

[sour flare]

no one's going to do that, i'm telling you haha. maybe in the future, someone will have the time to do it.

[next fulcrum]

Yeah man taking 3 different screenshots with hud hidden is hard

[sour flare]

is that sarcasm?

[heavy gale]

Go ahead and do it if you want to help and don't forget to get rid of the background of every image so it's consistent

[modern isle]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but are there rewards for world tour ranks other than emerald? And where would I be able to find those?

[minor finch]

There are Multibuck rewards, you can check at https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/World_Tour

[unkempt obsidian]

quick question to the big wiki bros, is the dot in there on purpose on the easter eggs wiki page?

[tall lintel]

arc and the finals have 2 separate dedicated teams

[minor finch]

This is Rob's (EE creator) signature punctuation style, so it's included as a small reference to him

[lone monolith]

What Raid said. If you see any page embeds with . though that's just because discord embeds are a bit annoying

[unkempt obsidian]

oh yeah, right, thanks for the reminder!

[unkempt obsidian]

alright, ty!

[glacial hatch]

Yall need to add the flash bangs range for blinding someone

[sour flare]

where do i get this namatamas original image?

[minor finch]

you can find it in the press kit
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ipd2ByykQXpgv9fCTuRfz5SsoSJAJjup

[sour flare]

thanks

[sour flare]

added more namatama!
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Mascots#Nama_Tamas

[sour flare]

this called "Totem"

[unkempt obsidian]

okay, i am now realizing they updated terminal attack recently to be a best out of 9 gamemode, changed it on the wiki, but when did they actually change this, i genuinely don't know??

[lost marsh]

no mention of that in patch notes, maybe on S4 patch notes

[lone monolith]

Do you want me to update some of these names? the magnifying glass is the TFEE Mascot, Spy is 007, Jewerly is Kynezantama, Binocular is Galileo, Mirror is Ceaser.

[compact talon]

Dumb egg. It will be my breakfast.

[lost marsh]

damn the charm n stickers section got nuked

@sour flare 😭

[lapis kindle]

where exactly?

[lost marsh]

whole section, ivada page

[lapis kindle]

ah, that's fine they're probably redoing it. thought it was on Cosmetics section

[lost marsh]

oh well okay

[sour flare]

[crimson crag]

Season 4 day 1

[unkempt obsidian]

well that just shows how i have neglected terminal attack since season 4 lol

[violet lance]

I think using their real names would be better

[sour flare]

so i assume the other balloon animal is a mascot too?

[lusty matrix]

does anyone know what this means

[lost marsh]

high ping

[viral cove]

get a better anti cheat

[lost marsh]

wrong channel

[dusk ice]

What map was this?

[sour flare]

fortune stadium

[dusk ice]

Interesting

[sand venture]

You took this from ingame?

[sour flare]

yes

it's just a visual bug

[lost marsh]

or is it?

[dusty quail]

well it usually plays for SYS$HORIZON and we know the sponsor intros are confirmed to be broken since last week haha

[raw sparrow]

this looks neat

[fallow sparrow]

#game-announcements message

see the final version

[minor finch]

I've been meaning to add this to the wiki I just can't decide which page

[fallow sparrow]

so those are what they mean?

thanks Embark lol

[lapis kindle]

i mean, they have it on the support page as well

[lapis kindle]

maybe it could be added to Game Info somehow?

[fallow sparrow]

fair enough but why can't we see ping in ms

[lapis kindle]

don’t know but tons of people have asked for that QoL

[full field]

NAMATAMA!

[lost marsh]

I think there's one missing

nvm it's just 4 for some reason I always think it's 5

[stray dock]

Might be something to do with consoles?

Nvm it just became normalised in consoles, xbox and playstation don't have anything about it in any tos

My guess is something to do with cross-play networks. Could involve complex routing. The displayed ping might not accurately represent real world latency due to intermediary factors. As well as hiding potential factors for people to blame when they don't do well :p

[stray dock]

Can you create a new page inside Game_Info called Technical?

It is technical information about the game afterall

Perhaps with the blue print tama image 😳

[lusty oracle]

ive been getting that ever since the update dropped and ive been having bad iput lag

[willow ice]

i cant find the gif but the wiki is down 😔

[crimson crag]

yellow is moderate server side issues and red is severe latency variation

[haughty lake]

namatama gift cards?

[lapis kindle]

THE FINALS KR treats the brand a lil different than Embark

esp. when it’s related to events in their community

[safe ferry]

Hello, Yolks! Would someone please tell me how to hide HUD in game? I'm trying to make some cool thumbnails for my videos : ) thank you!

[abstract tendon]

F10 but it doesn't work in Practice Range

[safe ferry]

aww okay I see thanks! : )

[sour flare]

where you guys got this image from?

[minor finch]

If we update the arena pages, the structure I'm thinking is

1. plaintext opening paragraph, no template, infobox or image
2. overview

• arena map
• arena variants
• arena modifiers (weather, time of day) - I noticed @sour flare combined this with loading screens which I think is a good idea.

3. locations

• table of named locations, based on the official arena maps

4. strategy

• strategy section, if applicable

5. supported gamemodes

• bulleted list of gamemodes the arena supports

6. trivia

• bulleted list of trivia

7. easter eggs
   * -> bulleted list of arena easter eggs, with link to the main easter eggs page

Example on user page https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid

[sour flare]

yooo thats what ive been thinking

[lapis kindle]

looks good to me

[mossy plover]

Is there a way to play 1v1v1 in customs without it putting you on 2v1v0?

[sour flare]

nope i don't think so

[minor finch]

I've implemented the changes to https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Monaco

[lapis kindle]

feel free to apply to other arena pages, whoever can/wants to

[minor finch]

Seoul done

the storm TOD might need correcting, couldn't find all the data

[sour flare]

where do you guys get these image from?

[lapis kindle]

from Embark. sometimes loading into the game doesn't have the UI so we grab them from there if needed as well

[sour flare]

so to get these image you have to pray? lol

[lapis kindle]

no we just ask for them

[sour flare]

the "sometimes loading into the game doesn't have the UI"

can we use the normal loading screen if we don't have some of them?

[lapis kindle]

well yeah, that's just a bug. but we always ask for images anyway, thing is the team is always busy so it happens when it happens

[lapis kindle]

you can, temporarily

[sour flare]

yeah temporaily

thanks you for info

[minor finch]

I used this for a Kyoto loading screen today. Cropped the screenshot into a 16:9 without the black bars.

[sour flare]

so that's what it looks like

[narrow knot]

if you reconnect to the match immediately after logging, then all loading screens during the match will be without UI

[sour flare]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-oh-damn-oh-daymn-daym-damn-gif-2649905700736798302

[minor finch]

thanks, I think it was actually one of your messages I got the Kyoto screenshot from

[sonic scroll]

Haha, love it

[willow ice]

anyone know where i can find maps with terminal/cashout spawns overlayed? and maybe powershif paths

i know they exist, just not sure where, seen some people share them before

[sour flare]

nope its not exist no one make that layout yet....

[willow ice]

people def have

[sour flare]

🤷‍♂️

[soft sorrel]

I would say "Revolver" should be renamed to "Contestant"
with the duct tape & helmet, it feels more fitting

[sour flare]

nah revolver is more easy to recognize

[sour flare]

and there is namatama holding c4

[jagged flower]

how lonmg does it take to steal a cashout in the finals

[lone jay]

There’s a wiki in the server?

[sour flare]

7 seconds

[sour flare]

yes

[solar abyss]

Hello! I was looking through the wiki and I wanted to ask, isn't it a bit redundant writing "new cosmetics" "new battlepass" and "new carreer levels" for every season? It kinda clutters it up and it's already mentioned

(https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Seasons)

Oh also, the events page is missing the rewards from the holiday event from season 1

[solar abyss]

Permission to change this?

[minor finch]

I don't believe the happy holidays event had rewards, unless I missed them

[violet lance]

I think it had rewards or I'm mistaking it with the stuff that was in the shop

[minor finch]

It is somewhat redundant, but also fulfills the purpose of listing effectively everything that was added with the launch of a season.

[violet lance]

I just checked. There was a free bundle in the shop but no cosmetics unlockable via contracts

[violet lance]

I think we can remove the "new" because the column is already called "New Content"

otherwise we'd have to add "new" to "Weapons" too

[minor finch]

It depends if the feature itself is new or not.

"Weapon sights" is listed as new content for S4, because they didn't exist before then. But if S5 adds new sights, I'd list "new weapon sights", because sights as a feature is no longer new, but the individual sights would be.

You're right that it should say "new weapons" instead of just "weapons" then, I must've missed that one earlier. The other list items should all follow that rule though.

err besides Arena too

I'm waking up to the inconsistencies now

still, better than it was before

[violet lance]

Maybe we somehow separate new content and repeating content?

[lapis kindle]

i don't think that's needed tbh. just remove redundant terms

[solar abyss]

I suppose so, but I still think that it could go in a seperate place? Perhaps have a list of "reccuring content formats"

[solar abyss]

Those are the ones I meant

[willow ice]

does this work as a tip?

[sour flare]

it sounds like more of a fun-fact

[minor finch]

Embark changed "Badge" to "Emblem", probably because of player card badges

[sour flare]

https://tenor.com/view/poe-dameron-heavy-sigh-star-wars-sigh-sighing-gif-26030273

[sour flare]

is there seoul sponsor picture listing anywhere? like this

[lapis kindle]

no

if you want to do it, recommend no HUD (F10)

[idle sequoia]

Rizz

[dusty quail]

https://fxtwitter.com/reachthefinals/status/1863634200823304239?t=nIz-BLeahV5KvRZ_yus30w&s=19

DISSUN CEO: Damien Vossler

[minor finch]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-kermit-typing-kermit-typing-on-typewriter-kermit-on-typewriter-typing-fast-gif-6766768323810342682

[gusty sable]

How many win points do we get WT? I'm 400 short of diamond 3

I mean emerald 3

[sour flare]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/World_Tour

[gusty sable]

Lol thanks!

[frosty bluff]

the 950 alt fire is not quite correct

Its technically correct, but also not.

The windup is 800 (810) ms

after which you can release then the animation plays which is the 0.14 seconds

but if you start the hit animation while looking at the back of the enemy you will still get a hit.

Its hard to make it understandable for non dagger players but you can look away during the hit animation if you looked at the enemy at some point and kinda get a "ghost hit"

Also the skin category is outdated and doesnt include the Three Virtues aka japanese kitchen knife

Aswell as the rare color variants

[sour flare]

You can log into the wiki and fix it some of the weapons page is outdated

[sour flare]

is there a way to merge certain file?

like a duplicate one

[heavy gale]

Unfortunately no

[ripe hull]

iseul-t skin for frag is missing from wiki.

[sand inlet]

[hollow wren]

Someone PLEASE tell me that someone, somewhere, archived the sounds/sound effects

[minor finch]

Do you mean the expressions? There are some on https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Style but not all

[hollow wren]

I'm talking like.. the respawn sound effect, the team wipe sound effect, etc.

[minor finch]

ah I'm not sure then

[lapis kindle]

we don't have that on the Wiki. anyone is welcome to do it if they want

[sour flare]

need frag name and description

[ripe hull]

I made an account and logged in, cant find that page or where i'd edit the information. Here's Name and description though:

[sour flare]

update almost every image of equipments page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Builds

[sour flare]

Is this really needed on the weapons page, or is it just to fill the page and make it seem more informative?

[cobalt slate]

?

[cursive gyro]

Hi everyone. Is this known issue? Most of the pictures doesn't open for me.

[sour flare]

yeah sometimes it's not work you have to click on the bottom right red button

[sour flare]

ill fix it

[cobalt slate]

[sour flare]

added gif video to each one of specialization
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Specializations

[violet lance]

those are the official one you see in game right?
What was the cloaking device lights plan at the end 💀

[sour flare]

it is official

it's suppose to tell you that if you do anything other than run you will be out of invis

[violet lance]

They are needed imo. But maybe it possible to use a nicer format. (I'm fine with the current one)

[heavy gale]

it's a quirk of the AWS extension and object storage, the little preview thing doesn't work 100% of the time.

[lapis kindle]

idk if this was needed. i'm assuming you replaced the ones we had with tge ones from the Nexon website for some reason?

[sour flare]

yes, why not? some of the image is outdated

[lapis kindle]

it's mainly due to resolution. if there were outdated images, we can just create them

but it's fine

now you have to be in the lookout for when Nexon posts new stuff for consistency sake

[sour flare]

do we need that big image? i mean the image that we use right now it's only this small

and it's look good too

[lapis kindle]

it's just sideview image with a shadow / reflection

[sour flare]

okay...?

[lapis kindle]

the main reason we had that size is to benefit those that use the Wiki for image purposes, which is a lot of people

anyway, all this to say. it's best to let the channel know when you're doing such update since this affected every single build item

[sour flare]

yes i did

[lapis kindle]

i mean informing before doing the update not after it's been applied and it's harder to revert if we have feedback

[sour flare]

ill do it next time

[lapis kindle]

it's meant to be as informative as possible. this was a huge rework done by Limoen a while back. if you have suggestions for updating, feel free to comment

[minor finch]

Is there a better place to put them on the page? maybe a gallery at the end? I've just never seen a wiki put files above the opening paragraph.

[lapis kindle]

please, move that elsewhere

there’s a reason we made templates, so we could add stuff without breaking the look and flow of pages

[sour flare]

i could remove it, the gif file won't work if you put the 200px on it

ill revert it

[scarlet storm]

why is r357 fire rate is in weird number ? 2.14 firing time vs rpm ?

[bold tangle]

Most game wikis have a block with image then stats of the item just below

[violet lance]

We have that too (the thing on the right)
The thing Raid talks about is a gif of the ability.

[bold tangle]

Yeah he was saying he never sees it like that

[sour flare]

i already remove it

as i said the gif is not working if you wanted a different scale, so if you want it to be smaller the gif won't be played

nvm i fixed is this better?

[violet lance]

je that position is for sure better

[lapis kindle]

if it’s position-fixed under the infobox for all screens (responsive) and it works for other pages, then yeah

[sour flare]

oh also i rearrange the style page

the items that can be bought is above and the one that can't and only be aquire by doing quest contract blabla is under

[lapis kindle]

[sour flare]

oh no?

[lapis kindle]

why is this necessary, and again why was the change applied without consulting us first?

[sour flare]

why not? it is that bad?

should i revert it?

[lapis kindle]

we can’t be changing templates for the sake of changing

the Style page is just an image database arranged alphabetically and by tiers. players know what they can buy because the prices and icons are there. why do we need to separate the items and make the page even longer and harder to navigate?

[sour flare]

so revert?

nah no revert just replace the <br> to nothing and everything will come normal

[lapis kindle]

again, if you have a change in mind that’s gonna affect the pages just let us know first

if something doesn’t need changing, then don’t change it unless it’s actually optimizing or improving the pages

[lapis kindle]

please revert the change

[violet lance]

Ivada is still shown as official sponsor of S4. This should probably be remove right?

[sour flare]

no it is official sponsor of season 4

it said on their cosmetic

[lapis kindle]

since they were indeed sponsoring the BP, i think we can reword this to specify it

the same thing will probably happen with Trentila in S5

[violet lance]

something like "IVADA is the sponsor of the S4 BP"?

[violet lance]

Which cosmetic says that?

[lapis kindle]

yeah, you’d need to check the nomenclature. not sure if we use S4 Battle Pass or BP or BattlePass

[lapis kindle]

pretty sure the bonus pages in the BP. but the truth is they only sponsored that, not anything else in the season

[sour flare]

if spear said so

oh wait it's only said official sponsor of the finals

[violet lance]

I think that means that they're an official sponsor of THE FINALS in general

[sour flare]

yeah yeah my bad

[violet lance]

I changed it to "IVADA is the official sponsor of the Season 4 Battle Pass."

Should a similar text also be added to the Ospuze page?

[violet lance]

I think adding all the sponsorships to the Overview could overcrowd it.
Maybe we'll have to add a "Sponsorships" section to brands that sponsored a lot

[lapis kindle]

agreed. i would recommend only adding it to the “newer” sponsors

in any case for OSPUZE we could edit the last sentence to say something like “Open Beta, Season 3 and Season 4 Battle Passes were sponsored by OSPUZE” or something like that

since Wetbattery already added the cosmetic appearances to all these pages

[lapis kindle]

the same could be said in other sponsor Overviews that require it

[lone monolith]

Generally I think it would be easier and more relevant to just say these are sponsors of THE FINALS than saying what battle passes they’ve been in.

OSPUZE and IVADA are sponsors of THE FINALS. HOLTOW, ISEUL-T, and ENGIMO are sponsors of Season 4.

[final fjord]

Does anyone know where I can get the raw trailer footage from the PC Gamer event? Looking to use those assets. I normally use what they upload on their content kit or post on their YouTube channel. But they don't actively maintain the content kit and the only video of the trailer on YouTube is from PC Gamer but it doesn't go higher than 1080p and includes the PC Gamer watermark. I'm specifically looking for 1440p.

[hollow torrent]

dose anyome know how much wins it takes from emrald2 to emrald1 ?

[sour flare]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/World_Tour

[bold tangle]

The footage there was nothing new it wasn't the right video that was supposed to be played

[final fjord]

Oh ya plenty of the assets are reused from previous trailers except these didn't include the "pre-beta footage" text on it. I know it's a strange thing to be picky about

[lone monolith]

Would it be appropriate to have a page dedicated to Gyro controls for people like me who use them? Its an undervalued and misunderstood feature in not only this game but controller's in FPS as a whole, I main Gyro + Flickstick on The Finals and some of the descriptions on the in-game settings are lackluster.

I actually tried to visit the wiki to see is if the Gyro sensitivity was talking about Real World Degrees (eg a sensitivity of 4 in game would mean for every 1 degree you move the controller irl your camera would move 4 degrees in game) but there is nothing about this.

I've never really written any wiki pages before, but I could get it started perhaps if this kind of stuff would fit the wiki.

[lone monolith]

By the way I did just do a real world test, yes the setting in TF is for degrees, so if you have a sensitivity of 1 and turned your controller a full 360 degrees your crosshair would be back on where you started as if your character did a full 360 degree turn.

[lone jay]

How many sponsors are there?

[sour flare]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Sponsors

[lone monolith]

I wonder - wouldn't it be better/possible to put all the Stripes & Solids skins into one, as a gif/webm?

[lapis kindle]

for sure

[sour flare]

anybody have this community event iseult name and descriptions?

[violet lance]

ISEUL-T TRENDPLATE

For contestants who refuse to compromise on either look or performance.

[sour flare]

it is EPIC rarity?

[violet lance]

Yep

[slate perch]

yall think the emerald player card is the same as season 3?

[sour flare]

i think yes, they will just change the number for the season or maybe no they might change something

[sour flare]

i can do that if no one is doing it

[sour flare]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Frag_Grenade#Gadget_Skins

[sleek solstice]

Lottsa flavours :D

[pallid iris]

do we have the change list?

[minor finch]

Not until the season launches on December 12

[pallid iris]

what do we know so far? is there a list of that? xd

[lone monolith]

Ivada's item list incorrectly lists this famas skin as an FCAR

[minor finch]

Thanks! feel free to edit if you get the chance btw

[lone monolith]

Ah, I can try but I don't want to mess up anything 😅

[minor finch]

No worries, I'll fix it for speed

[lone monolith]

oh one thing I noticed is the image does call it an FCAR too

[minor finch]

sorted

[lone monolith]

thank you!

[sour flare]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gadgets
added a gif video to some of the gadgets. (added it yesterday but forgot to tell)

[jolly tide]

what does ivada do?

[sour flare]

they have performance division to engineer virtual products

[violet lance]

We have no mention of Moist Man in the wiki. On what page should he be mentioned?
I don't think he'd fit in the Mascot page since he isn't really a mascot imo.

He could be added to the MultiCo page because they own the IP iirc.
Maybe we could add a Products section to sponsor pages. Such a section could also be used to describe the Vaiiya brainchip.

And was Örf! ever mentioned as mascot of The Finals in the game? They are currently on the mascot page.

[sour flare]

what moistman

oh that green monster? it is important?

if it's kinda easter egg or something you maybe can put it in https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cosmetic_Secrets

[violet lance]

I'd say it's important for the early lore of MultiCo

Or whoever made Moist Man and Örf

[sour flare]

it connect to multico?

[violet lance]

I'm not sure but i think the moist man cartridge has a MultiCo logo

[sour flare]

you can put it in multico page then, in gallery section

[sour flare]

orf look cute so i put em on mascots page lol

jk it's from this

orf prank call nama tama so i think theyre mascots

[violet lance]

#easter-eggs message this is a REALLY bad image but you should be able to see the MultiCo

[sour flare]

it's ok i can look in-game in a sec

hmmmm i can't see anything

oh nvm it's a different one

[violet lance]

jo wtf... is that quality

[sour flare]

it's suppose to be 1887 skin right?

[violet lance]

yeah I wasnt sure which one of the 2 has the logo.

[sour flare]

it is multico

what now

[violet lance]

@lapis kindle What's your opinion on this?

[lapis kindle]

this has been known. i think it can just be added as brand appearance

since we really don’t know the implications atm and they’re just theories

[violet lance]

I'm not sure if the Örf backpack has a MultiCo logo.
It should probably be added as brand appearance too if it has one.

[lapis kindle]

FYI don't worry about S5 cosmetics and weapon images, i already have those from the Preview Event and have been working on them. i'll upload in the following days

also, Main Page refresh is live. have fun with the new season!

[sour flare]

i think the green is kinda weird, maybe i'm not used to it yet

[lapis kindle]

you’ll get used to it, same thing happened in S2

[hidden sail]

last round i saw sombody with a read shirt with the the Finals on it does any body know how to get it?

[minor finch]

It's being sent in email

[heavy gale]

the Dissun cerb looks better than the other 2 ngl

[hidden sail]

how do i get it i need it for a spiederman build

[sour flare]

it's sure does

[heavy gale]

It's being slowly sent out, you should hopefully get it

[hidden sail]

do i have to like consent to get emails and wen yes were?

[heavy gale]

You can try logging into https://id.embark.games/id/profile and seeing if you have an email linked +

[hidden sail]

nice thank you are there new codes?

[heavy gale]

Not sure how they're doing it in terms of people who didn't have an email linked before the send out

[hidden sail]

had it on

[sour flare]

I was thinking about rearranging the contents on the equipment page, keeping all the information the same but switching the placement and using bold text instead of === for every headline. what do you guys think?
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Wetbattery