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quick sapphire
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no citation i guess

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they have a pic of it on their press kit but it's a pdf

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also every instance of the word "equippable" is written as "equipable" but i've never seen it spelled like that in my life and i've been everywhere

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in any sense it's still jargon so just saying "wieldable" would be better

torpid lynx
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Uh... Pretty sure Night Vision is no longer available for Medium and Heavy.

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Can we remove it?
Because i just meet a guy who thought that Heavy Have Thermal Vision because of this Icon.

heavy gale
torpid lynx
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Also i want to check for how long Goo can burn, and put it in description of Pyro and Goo Grenade, Flamethrower and Goo Gun, Pyro and Goo Caniser, and probably "Game Tips" section.

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Let's hope i won't forget this next time i join game 😅

violet lance
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torpid lynx
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Still probably better to put it in all related Goo and Fire pages.

torpid lynx
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Oh, that explains.

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violet lance
static light
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should Goo be capitalized or not

heavy gale
torpid lynx
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Agree.
It is not just random goo, it is The Finals Goo

static light
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Goo™

torpid lynx
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Lmao

minor finch
heavy gale
minor finch
heavy gale
minor finch
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Looks like it is indeed accessible to non-admins

heavy gale
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cool

lapis kindle
static light
minor finch
heavy gale
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Don't XP farm

proud wraith
cloud prawn
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Hey has nobody noticed how outdated the cosmetics page is?
I think there is nothing that was added after launch

heavy gale
cloud prawn
heavy gale
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@minor finch currently working on a cosmetic card which is based off the one you made in your page a while ago https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:CosmeticCard, I still need to make it into an actual template with parameters but just thought I'd show you how it looks atm happy_friend

minor finch
heavy gale
lapis kindle
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since the Rarity pill changed in the latest update, we thought it'd be best to follow your recommendation. this way we can just update the images directly and change rarity in-Wiki. and on that same note, i'm working on a quick PSD template for cosmetic images for anyone to use later on

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lapis kindle
heavy gale
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optional = the greyed out bar, rarity = determines colour, name = cosmetic name

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ignore it looking a bit scuffed as it still contains the picture yellow bar

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red colour = you didn't input a correct rarity or none at all

minor finch
heavy gale
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cool, I'll leave it for now then joeDead

static silo
drifting jolt
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this game is going to blow up mark my words this is the finals year 2024 😤🔥🔥

lone monolith
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This is the channel for talking about our commuity wiki. Not for discussing unrelated aspects about THE FINALS.

chrome sigil
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like was it light thermal? I cant remember

torpid lynx
violet lance
torpid lynx
violet lance
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Hmmm then I understand why they removed it...

lone monolith
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It just had a regular night vision effect.

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violet lance
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This would only make sense if there were a pitch black map variant. But normal contestants should then have a flashlight or sth else

gloomy stream
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Guys in the Finals Wiki, It would be nice as a little graphic Feature how in the Game, If you Hover over the Buttons, that the colour appear and its Not Just yellow, What do you think about my Idea?

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lone monolith
compact talon
gloomy stream
lone monolith
lone monolith
lone monolith
heavy gale
gloomy stream
lapis kindle
minor finch
gloomy stream
minor finch
lapis kindle
minor finch
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thanks hug_friend

woven ingot
lapis kindle
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@frigid stone can we utilize your overview maps for Skyway and Las Vegas in their respective pages in the Wiki? at least until we get the official ones from Embark happy_friend

frigid stone
lapis kindle
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you might see the Style section in the Cosmetics page a bit broken today with images looking different. no worries, we're updating the page a bit so stay tuned

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lone monolith
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Does the Finals Wiki also entail some Community Memes like Moolah, SOON or the Snuke?

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lone monolith
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lone monolith
lone monolith
proud wraith
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violet lance
static light
# violet lance Add to the strategy section that it can be turned into a nuke <:Kekw:75766189979...

https://youtu.be/UFMC1HH3voU?t=17

YouTube
THE FINALS
THE FINALS | Highlights | Episode 2 | OB

Thank you again for an amazing open beta, we miss all of you yolks. Here are some amazing highlights to clench your thirst! Brought to you by OSPUZE. Generous sponsor of THE FINALS. Who needs water?

Visit the Website: https://www.reachthefinals.com/
Follow on X: https://twitter.com/reachthefinals
Join the Discord: https://discord.com/invite/the...

▶ Play video
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"Uh oh, there's a C4 on that statue!"
-Scotty

lapis kindle
topaz radish
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Isnt there a Challenge for killing someone with a defib

distant reef
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how can you kill someone with a defib

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any thrown object does 50 dmg though

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at least afiak

violet lance
distant reef
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what

violet lance
untold arrow
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Nice

topaz radish
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I killed someone with it yesterday, but I swear I remember reading a challenge somewhere

chilly sigil
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Idk if it's known, but for the bounce a meteor off your jump pad achievement, you can actually get it during the alien event. If a UFO does it's thing above your jump pad it counts as a meteor and gives you the achievement. Idk if this is even good info for this channel but thought I'd put it here

thorny escarp
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Hey, is there anywhere i can get the cashout steal alarm sound, raw, without the cashout music alongside it

stoic grove
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Can I +1 MasterAenox's request, but the team whipeout sfx? That thing is satisfying

topaz wind
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WTF no, a SNUKE is a Slow NUKE which is what happened when they first patches the nukes, you would end up with suuuuuper slow moving ones mix of snail and nuke

minor finch
lapis kindle
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we'll update if we get more info in S2, same goes for CNS page

minor finch
ebon flume
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shadow nerf on stun gun hitbox ?

heavy gale
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we have pushed an update to the cosmetics page to use the new CosmeticCard template, mostly all are updated but stuff like emoticons will be changed in the future

dusty quail
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hm

lapis kindle
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there's always something

heavy gale
# dusty quail

technically not incorrect but also incorrect at the same time, there is common safety gloves that are apart of a bundle for 1,850....it's just not the correct picture KEK

lapis kindle
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fixed. but noticed i need to add the Smoking Guns event cosmetics. will do soon

minor finch
lapis kindle
compact talon
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who up buyin gloves for $20

lapis kindle
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it’s a bundle

umbral gust
# lapis kindle it’s a bundle

I think you should be able to buy single items from bundles, the amount times I found something cool I would totally wear, but rest of the bundle ass, means I ain’t buying it, and that’s happened a lot. I ain’t buying a bundle of 3 skins cause there’s a cool skin for the shotgun, but the rest of the 3 skins are not only ass, I don’t use the weapons.

manic reef
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sir this is a wiki discussion channel

pearl fern
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I've seen these around maps, it's not part of the map right?

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there was also one on top of the housing complex of Seoul

heavy gale
pearl fern
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ah yeah hadn't found the thread happy_friend

violet lance
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There is no mention of Discovery Corp in the wiki

lone monolith
violet lance
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We know that they make the virtual firearms, don't we?

lone monolith
static light
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bundles are updated Checked_Yes

manic reef
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wrong channel bro

pearl fern
heavy gale
pearl fern
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@vivid lily I want to comment on your rewrit with a few points:

  • A square and circle are 2d, while this info is about 3d objects. But if you think something is too complicated for the reader, it would be a better idea to rewrite the original text than to add a simplified version in parentheses.
  • "eventually... after a while" is a tautology,
  • why capitalize Equipment if it's not a link to the page,
  • Contractions like "it's" instead of "it is" are informal,
  • And I don't think the reader should ever be directly addressed like that ("you'll find")
    these things all go against wiki standards.
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i'm going to adjust them a bit if you don't mind, but I also wanted to let you know so I'm not going against what people think the style should be. It's important that everyone agrees of course

edit: We talked about it in dms, but if anyone reading disagrees with the points please say so

pearl fern
lapis kindle
pearl fern
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I wish we had ai generated descriptions of what was changed on a page because I'm too lazy to write them for small changes 😭

pearl fern
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@static light instead of text we can use this template: Main
it's a new template

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cunning ore
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What has Scotty done that he was such an insane competitor? Other than no death? Like what was bros fav loadout

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Like I really wanna know his lore

lapis kindle
cunning ore
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Aye. happy_friend

pearl fern
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@barren jetty what's the point of these templates?

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barren jetty
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think of them as escape characters for template usage

pearl fern
barren jetty
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the most common use case for them would be for complex wikitable templates, usually when they are multiple layers of templates being used

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instead of using the standard wikitable markup, these would be used instead

pearl fern
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oh okay, so they are not currently being used?

barren jetty
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they're common infrastructure, so it's a good idea to have them for later use

pearl fern
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Thanks for the explanation

pearl fern
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I've made a template that has some instructions on throwable gadgets, and this template would be shown on the page of every throwable gadget. Basically a bit information that's the same on every single page (which is why I put it in a box, to not make it look like we're just copypasting stuff over a bunch of pages)
I'll be making some more of these for other things like 'sticky gadget instructions'...
I know it isn't the prettiest right now. please let me know if you have any ideas for the style.

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static light
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really good work, it looks nice

pearl fern
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@static light

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tried a few things to get the label to look like this, want to help out?

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stuck on this

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static light
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this isnt really my strong suit tbh kekw_c

pearl fern
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that's fine, yeah i tried but that wasn't workin

static light
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let me get an expert on the line

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@heavy gale

vocal laurel
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hi does anyone know how much multi bucks does the batttlepass gives you with out the free ones?

lapis kindle
lapis kindle
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hmm after reading through it and seeing it live on the page, all that info belongs in the respective sections of the Wiki

heavy gale
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In terms of it on live pages though, I feel like if we want to use it, it could be used for like trivia points or tutorial points but we would need to look into that. In terms of it taking up like overviews and other standard wiki related information, I feel like that should be left in wiki style just for the ease of editing for newbies.

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I think the main thing is we'd rather keep it more wiki like than having it too styled to the point where every page is basically a template and basically acts as a standard website page instead of a wiki page

dusty quail
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👀

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❔❕

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WHY IT LOOK LIKE THAT

heavy gale
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why what?

dusty quail
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click it!

lapis kindle
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da hell

sand venture
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wtf

heavy gale
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wah looks kinda sick though

final token
minor finch
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CNS got the wiki 😭

lapis kindle
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me after all that work put into the Main Page: 🧍🏻

lone monolith
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Damn

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Can't have anything anymore KEKW

barren jetty
minor finch
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I love that both links in the intro are also hacked by CNS, you can't escape it

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pearl fern
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finally a season 2 teaser

dusty quail
heavy gale
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@narrow knot You are doing a great job with the wiki! However, we have removed the Tokyo page you added. We aim to include only officially confirmed information in our wiki, rather than speculative information, which may mislead some people if they regard the wiki as a trustworthy source of information.

dusty quail
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Yeah we have nothing solid on the map location yet

pearl fern
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Do we know where Skyway is? I often hear a female announcer saying something in French at the beginning, then it swaps back to the regular announcer.

static light
pearl fern
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but why tho

static light
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Skyway is an amalgamation of Monaco and Seoul. It uses architecture and assets from each one in different sections.

pearl fern
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yeah, it's not very interesting thematically

lone monolith
rain willow
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I think you've got both in-ARENA casters on skyway.
By the way the French lady says on Monaco and Skyway
"Welcome to the wonderful city of Monaco. Our contestants will be fighting..."
They just reused the line for Skyway when you spawn on that part of the map

slender temple
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will the account level stay the same or does it reset with season2?

static light
pearl fern
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when you're working on a complicated template and click preview and then...

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heavy gale
minor finch
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yeah CNS hacked the wiki a little too well 😅

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pearl fern
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It's takings quite long so it seems like the server needs rebooting... is there an Embarker that can be contacted about this kind of thing or are we just going to have no website for the next 2 days?

lapis kindle
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it has happened before so it’s temporary – nothing much we can do afaik. at least it’s during the weekend. i’ll resume cosmetic updates in the next few days

pearl fern
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i'd think more people look for info on the weekend

lapis kindle
static light
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back up finally

minor finch
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This is by no means important, but could we make the banner link to the trailer premiere? (like the official websites do) Right now it just expands the image.

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could be a nice extra touch

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uh and by "we" I mean CNS, of course 😅

static light
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hopefully CNS is okay with me making that change 🙏

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(i'm only an intern after all)

minor finch
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Just checking is there a consensus on using S01 / S1 for cosmetics?

If so I can make them all consistent in my next edit

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and awesome work on all the expressions and pets etc today happy_friend

lapis kindle
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we haven't finished updating but it should be S1

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it's shorter and gives us better padding

lapis kindle
minor finch
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sounds good, ty!

lime hornet
lapis kindle
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Cosmetics page has been updated with latest template, including Charms and Stickers - the only thing missing is to add the "optional" field with the required text (S1 BP Level, Career Level, Event Contract, etc.) in the cases that don't have it

pearl fern
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You can pick and choose which controls to display, and add a description of what the button does
{{Control scheme|interact=Open vault}}

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pearl fern
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all the buttons were painstakingly crafted using css chemistegg

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@heavy gale I want to comment on your feedback on instruction box i was working on,
I agree they shouldn't be used for every type of content, but i think that with specific rules to their implementation they do belong on the wiki.
The rules are:
• It is strictly used to explain how to use something inside the game, in terms of player actions and button controls rather than talking about purpose and strategy like the rest of the wiki content.
• the instructions block is placed after the Usage section
• the instuctions block shouldn't break up a text section
• The content is concise
• it is used when the same information is useful across numerous pages, but can't just be placed on a separate page, as that page would not be interesting enough for people to visit, so the information should be adopted by the pages to which the instruction block is relevant.

lapis kindle
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is this live?

pearl fern
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not on each affected page, only on this page

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so there is still time to change things chemistegg
(also since its a template if the information changes at a later point it can always be adjusted on all the relevant pages at once)

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Here is another example of how it looks for the Barricade

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lapis kindle
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i get it. but i honestly don't see what we gain from having another template when the "Instructions" text can be a section on the Wiki and the image + Controls can live inside the Infobox. the issue with the template rn is that it breaks the page layout when we already have places where the info can live

pearl fern
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well, the obvious benefit is that by not just copying the plain text across each page is that there is less overhead when something needs to be adjusted.
but there is another benefit, which is that when this information is contained in a box, readers can 'recognize' the box after they have read it the first time, and skip over it if they already know its contents. if you just paste this information into the actual article, then the article becomes harder to read, as it is harder to recognize that this information is no longer relevant to you

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and this information is still relevant, for example some people may not know that you can pick up a barricade. by seeing that the barricade is similar to the jump pad, users may learn this kind of information. but if we put it as plain text, you will not be able to associate that the instruction is the same as the jump pad, because you would skip over the wall of text thinking you already know how this gadget works. this is the benefit of associating gadgets with eachother, in that the barricade is similar to the jump pad for example

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also, i don't want the image to float in the article, because then it won't be placed together with the instructions it is relevant to, it's not relevant to the rest of the article
(if you place it in the same section it would appear to the right, but this means there will be ugly lines of text that take up full-width between this image and the infobox)

candid locust
lapis kindle
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all the information we have on articles is relevant to the Wiki and it is organized in a way that readers can follow it when reading. i do get the updating part, but instructions on a Gadget would hardly change - that's why we have Templates for things that will be updated periodically, like the Stats (Infobox)

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all of the info and assets you created can live in a section, without losing their merit and focus

pearl fern
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i hate copy pasting stuff when it could be abstracted. but I understand the argument. another thing is that i liked having an image but it's too much work for me to take an image of every single gadget, while it made sense to use a 'general 'image while the info is in the box

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because for example an image of mines on a cashout station demonstrates how sticky gadgets work, but i cant just put an image of mines on a page about motion sensor

lone monolith
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tbf I don't think we really need a tutorial for how every gadget works. The people going to the wiki are looking for more advanced things that can't be easily tutorialized, not basic mechanics of the game that are explained in the game.

pearl fern
lapis kindle
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i think it's good to have the instructions/tutorial

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what i'm not particularly keen on is adding another template to these pages when that info (that won't change that much) can live in the article

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we use templates when we need to change lots of parameters constantly for many pages, but instructions are a one time thing. so why not just build it once and then let others update in the same page?

pearl fern
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i understand, and what of the image?

lapis kindle
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that's what contributors are for!

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say you created X amount for Y gadgets, maybe other people can help come up with the other images

pearl fern
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@lapis kindle

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Now it's a bit weird with Uses & Interactions vs. Usage

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What should the standard be

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I can also call it 'Instructions'

lapis kindle
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i think the Image can be after the first paragraph so it looks like this and people understand it's related to the text

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pearl fern
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well the infobox is in the way

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do you mean inline?

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the image you sent is a floating right image

lone monolith
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Is the image really necessary? Feel like adding "When you press and hold the throwing key, it will display a outline of the flight path" gets the point across just as well.

pearl fern
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well an image speaks for a thousand words...

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i could also put "Left Mouse button" instead of making the icon. but i made the icon because thats just a lot better..

lapis kindle
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pearl fern
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I won't, I spent way too much time on it

lapis kindle
pearl fern
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after trying to make the template work with wikitable I ended up having to make it a HTML table because the template generator really likes inserting sneaky <p>s

pearl fern
lapis kindle
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well obv that doesn't look good spear_lol

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i'm not on the Wiki to edit myself but i'm sure we can find a way to do it

pearl fern
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no I don't get what you mean

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i can't make it float to the left of the infobox if that's what you mean

lapis kindle
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unless the Controls and Image are within a Gallery or Table? just spitballing

pearl fern
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I see, uhh that would look bad on mobile, would need some kinda flexbox setup and also the image isn't exactly directly linked to the controls (its linked to the explanation) so semantically combining these into one template doesn't really make sense

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"controls plus image" lol

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this is how the barricade page looks with this setup

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lapis kindle
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what we could do is create a "fake" container for Instructions. that way the image could perhaps be were you want it, instead of going wherever?

pearl fern
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then we are basically going back to the initial setup

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where the instructions break up the page as a box

lapis kindle
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not necessarily

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it wouldn't be a template

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i'll see what i can do with Luke soon

pearl fern
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i think this is what you mean

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lapis kindle
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well yeah, but rn it's not happening automatically right?

pearl fern
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i just have to put a div with overflow:auto around the section

lapis kindle
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if it works then there you have it

pearl fern
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i don't think it looks very good though lol

lapis kindle
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what is it that you want it to be visually?

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it's doing exactly what it is intended

pearl fern
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those paragraphs look pretty messy when they are this narrow and not justified

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it's * alright*

static light
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yappington city up in here today

pearl fern
lone monolith
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Honestly I think just removing the image fixes this problem

pearl fern
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Justice image hater number 1 🙄🙄 !!

lone monolith
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Nah I'm just the Wiki Lead and I think it doesn't look that good. Yes I am a certified image hater.

pearl fern
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images flavour up the page anyway so im happy to keep them

lone monolith
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(I am a certified Limoen control section fan tho)

pearl fern
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lets say the finals ceases to exist, how will people know what attempting to place a barricade looked like

lone monolith
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If the finals ceases to exist the wiki ceases to exist KEKW

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We'll have bigger problems then not knowing what a barricade placement looked like wah

pearl fern
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Okay but
if we put it in spot #1 it's not going to mess up the page as much

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I think this should be fine

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lapis kindle
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it's fine tbh. we found the solution and got to keep all the assets

pearl fern
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having an in game screenshot in some way is nice imo and the truth is someone probably wasn't gonna add one

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@lone monolith permission to let the image live here

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I also prefer not having a weird div around the text that you can't see in the visual editor, only in templates i would use those

lone monolith
pearl fern
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🔨 🔨

static light
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Sorry Mr. Overlord Justice I will get back in the wiki dungeon

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oops wrong chat

lone monolith
pearl fern
heavy gale
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that control scheme template is indeed awesome and I do agree with what SPEAR is saying when it comes to templates + normal information that doesn't really change and can easily be put into sections. The main goal is to make it easy to maintain in the end and allow multiple people with varying experience in wiki's to help out.

The image to the right combined with the current text is decent looking. I feel like once pages get more information in the future then it will all start blending together in a good way as at the moment it looks a tad weird in terms of the side picture but that's fine.

violet lance
pearl fern
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if there are any other errors with PS let me know, the xbox ones I got from my computer but the playstation ones I basically translated based on what the battlefield devs did

violet lance
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Does someone have the weapon stats as a table?

pearl fern
lapis kindle
tardy bluff
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BuffM60 made the best chart, has more details and is actually accurate, theres some glaring issues with that chart such as the rpm of cl40 being 210, the akm and fcar being the same fire rate, the m60 saying its a faster ttk than the lewis

lapis kindle
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alright no worries

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it's just the one i had at hand

tardy bluff
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yeah it's the most popular one, which is unfortunate because it just spreads bad info i used to use it too

lapis kindle
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that's fine, we're about to see S2 changes anyway

tardy bluff
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I'm hyped for them! I know you are too 😉

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waiting on those s2 lore videos i am expecting you to make ❤️

pearl fern
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it's getting worse

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heavy gale
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CNS is really getting into the system

lapis kindle
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they don't want us making the Wiki this good fiend

pearl fern
woven ingot
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Casually waiting for season 2

round raven
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Bad news but why The Finals wiki is down

barren jetty
lapis kindle
pearl fern
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I've measured the amount of gas canisters that can fit in 10 meters, and it's 10. so one gas canister is approximately 1 meter in length

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although the 10m of the practice range should probably include one yellow stripe, so it's probably a little less than 1.0m per canister

manic reef
pearl fern
manic reef
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i guess

pearl fern
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so i measured this

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it looks like most grid tiles used in the map buildings are between 2.5m³ and 3m³ (since gas canister is around 0.92m in length)

pearl fern
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New gadgets in season 2:
Gateway [LIGHT], a thrown gadget that spawns a portal. Unknown how the exit-portal location is determined, it could be that this is based on your previous usage of the gadget, or a location straight forwards through buildings.

Reshaper [MEDIUM], a tablet gadget which appears to be ground-targeted, and replaces arena objects, including sticky gadgets, turrets and arena carriables. It turns dangerous objects (like a turret or mine) into safe objects (like potted plants). It turns barrels into other barrels for when you need a different type.

Dematerializer [UNIDENTIFIED], antoher tablet gadget which is also ground-targeted, and creates a hole in the surface; however, upon recast, the hole is sealed again like nothing happened. In the video, it is used to bring down a cash box through the ceiling, and to poke through a wall.

Gravity cube [HEAYV], a thrown gadget which also appears to deploy upon first impact. It lifts up everything like a UFO tractor beam, but unlike the UFO, it also lifts up cashout stations and contestants.

Map:
after analyzing the architecture, i can safely say it's a completely new map and not a reskin of an existing map. It's arcade-themed mixed with modern-futurist architecture and very visually unique compared to existing maps. Two of its variants include: the left picture, and the right picture which appears to be vaporwave inspired.

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Additionally, there appears to be a new gun.

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It looks similar to the SA shotgun but its details do not match.

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@pearl fern i think you need to check the steam page

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some deets are already there

minor finch
pearl fern
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oh crap

minor finch
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oops yeah like lettuce said

manic reef
lone monolith
pearl fern
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yep

lapis kindle
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great work regardless, appreciate it

pearl fern
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some details are missing, and they would be important for the pages to make sense

static light
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We can create the pages for now and then fill in the info later imo

lone monolith
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^

static light
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We can set up private games now to test the new stuff

pearl fern
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I guess it doesn't really matter either way, since Google isn't gonna show the pages to anyone within 2 months of writing them 😭

lapis kindle
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let's set up as much as possible. i'll update assets soon, at least the main banner and such

lapis kindle
pearl fern
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@static light shall i start on a p[age for the gadgets? are you already working on something?

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i just typed gateway.png as a placeholder and this showed up

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😭

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thank you mediawiki

lone monolith
pearl fern
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does the wiki embed not have the picture? 🤔

lone monolith
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No

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We're lucky it has the text and not just .

pearl fern
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Ha that's true

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it's another SEO thing

pearl fern
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yes, this is on pages where people begun their page with an 'Overview' header (or any other header) above their opening paragraph instead of just beginning with text, it's the wrong way to write a wiki page, i have been removing those unnecessary headers on various pages

lone monolith
pearl fern
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someone had to put an end to your absolute tomfoolery

lone monolith
pearl fern
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i dunno which of y'all last managed the meta properties (if it isn't just the default settings) but the following could be done:
<meta name="theme-color" content="#COLORHEX"> - if you make this THE FINALS RED, then that little stripe on the left of the discord embed will be red
<meta name="og:image" itemprop="image" content="path/to/image.png">
^ this should preferably grab the url of the first image element on the page, if that is difficult, just make it the Finals logo

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it also appears the meta keywords tag is not being used, which is bad for SEO. it should have: "The Finals", "Pagename", and e.g. one entry for each category the page is in

static light
lone monolith
heavy gale
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the other one's, I can probably sort something out for that

pearl fern
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that would be nice

heavy gale
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Also we have risen through the ranks and are the #2 result for the finals wiki

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now we just need to beat fandom somehow (never gonna happen)

pearl fern
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on some pages, fandom is left in the dust

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whereas with AKM, its vice versa Kek

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heavy gale
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slowly getting there

pearl fern
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meanwhile the fandom wiki:

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normal ermine
pearl fern
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yeah they are lightyears behind in terms of updates just checked

lone monolith
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The guy running Fandom dipped out when the game went into Open beta KEKW

pearl fern
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fandom will never agree to take it down though

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they want to squeeze out every last cent of ad revenue

solid aspen
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how can i support the community wiki?

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frick fandom

pearl fern
pearl fern
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is the term 'gravity glove' still referenced anywhere in the game / surrounding media or is that just a remnant of the indev versions of the game?

static light
static light
pearl fern
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Right, so I suggest that we move the information from that page to the Arena carriables page and remove that page

pearl fern
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@static light Sneaky

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static light
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SHOUTOUT TO LUKE AND SPEAR THEY ARE MASTERMINDS

cunning ore
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YO! LOOKS SO GOOD!

stiff dove
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that looks so nice

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🔥

pearl fern
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what the, everything turned purple

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Very interesting

heavy gale
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Everything vaperwaved

lapis kindle
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CNS must be hacking again

pearl fern
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does this mean the finals client is gonna do this too 👀

lapis kindle
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we don't know, this is just our way to match S2 aesthetics

pearl fern
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alright

heavy gale
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Inb4 the actual S2 aesthetic when it updates is completely different and we need to change the wiki again kekw

minor finch
pearl fern
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darker
wait no

heavy gale
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Background is still the same

lapis kindle
lapis kindle
heavy gale
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It does look good and I love the cyan

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Well darker cyan

pearl fern
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I like it and if anything it shows that this wiki is actually being maintained

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@heavy gale in this overhaul did you happen to look at the meta image thing?

lapis kindle
barren jetty
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there was a brief moment of the wiki returning a 503

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not sure how long it was for

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i experienced it for at least ~5 min

sick lion
deft marten
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I agree

heavy gale
pearl fern
tardy bluff
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does anyone have all of the map top down blueprint photos? i've seen a few but they always have extra drawings on them

violet lance
pearl fern
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They only exist for monaco and seoul

violet lance
tardy bluff
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dope ty i got them all downloaded

heavy gale
pearl fern
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It may be worth considering whether the image should show as a thumbnail or like this (type thumbnail vs type image)

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I think this is fine

minor finch
lapis kindle
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y’all smell that? someone’s been cooking

torn plover
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Are you able to rename the head category to something more appropriate such as Crit.
And in the technical section, perhaps displaying the time it takes to perform a backstab would also be good information to note down.

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I would probably suggest replacing this with dash as far more lights use dash compared to cloak with the dagger, as cloak is much easier to detect compared to closed beta.

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torn plover
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May also be worth to mention that you can kill a heavy near instant by using quick melee right after the backstab, you can also do this to heavies which have a healing beam on them but the timing has to be very fast.

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You could also add the melee range too which is 2.5m

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good point

lime hornet
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logo for the sidebar maybe?

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nah its too dark

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maybe?

lapis kindle
# lime hornet

this is a great idea, we can use the full Magenta on since the gradient doesn’t translate well at that scale happy_friend

lime hornet
lime hornet
lime hornet
lapis kindle
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ye we have the assets, thanks!

lime hornet
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i have been making vaporwave for a while, can do a 3d render or even somethin like this

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@lapis kindle you can pick whatever one now!

i cant edit just yet cause i havent verified an email but still wanna help

lapis kindle
lime hornet
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(since my thing is vaporwave, when the new theme was announced i was so hypeddddd)

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this is legit my steam lol

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violet lance
# lime hornet

Maybe make the background this style and make the finals logo white or background color. Then it would be similar to how it is on discord

violet lance
lime hornet
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can do

heavy gale
minor finch
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I've add CB1 items to https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Career_Progression and split the page by season, since it sounds like Season 2 will shake up the career system entirely. 👇

A new Career Circuit system offers weekly rewards from Seasonal Sponsors, allowing contestants to move from Rookie to Master by completing contracts throughout the season.

If anybody has the in-game descriptions and icons of the CB1 items, they would be greatly appreciated.

torn plover
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who ever made the additional changes to the dagger thanks hug_friend

harsh umbra
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so just to clarify is the season gonna end in 30 hours or 2 hours like the daily?

pearl fern
sudden trout
wicked shale
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34 hr 22 min from now is s2

lone monolith
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wiki is down?

strange frost
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I can't check the wiki as it's down, but are there breakdowns for the xp gains for gadget and specialisation use on there?
I did some pretty extensive testing earlier in the season and have exact numbers for a lot of stuff

pearl fern
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it only has xp gains for leveling atm, not gadget upgrades

strange frost
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They're so uneven lol

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Some can get level 6 in like, 15 games if you farm them hard. Others will take tens of hours

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And I'm pretty confident the Pyro Nade xp is bugged. Most damaging gadgets earn 1xp per 1-5 damage dealt, while the Pyro gets roughly 20xp per point of damage lol

minor finch
strange frost
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Yup. Pyro Nade and Breaching Charge are, I think, the fastest natural farms just by playing normally

tulip torrent
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and Pyro, for that matter. I might not use Pyro as much because I am a support build. Even in other builds I don't reaally use it regardless of weight class

strange frost
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If you really try to farm environmental damage with it, you can get upwards of 25 000xp in a single match

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Pyro Nade just seems to have straight broken damage conversion. E.g. gas nades and gas mines seem to convert player damage to xp 1:1, RPG converts at a rate of 5dmg:1xp - Pyro is more like 1dmg:20xp

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So I guess farm your level 6 Pyro Nades if you haven't already, cause it could get patched if it really is busted

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RPG and Zipline are the worst. Explosive Mines are pretty woeful too

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Oh and Defib is cheeks

tardy bluff
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the barricades also get a lot of xp naturally

glad steeple
pearl fern
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I've created a bunch of redirect pages for equipment items that are written in uppercase.

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This way, the corresponding weapon actually shows up when you type it in the search bar

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did it this way since I understand there have been some difficulties fixing the issue of searches not ignoring case, but having no search results pop up was just too confusing for users, so this is a band-aid. if the issue gets fixed at one point these pages can be removed

cunning frigate
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The page for the Model 1887 could do with a blurb mentioning that if you hold down the fire button after reaching 0 shells, you will continually reload one shell and fire, effectively making it a pseudo-full-auto.

It should also mention that it's more efficient to reload at 3/6 and 0/6 due to the player putting in two shells at once.

pearl fern
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all gadgets done too!

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i hope someone didn't already do all of this 🥲

lone monolith
pearl fern
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I looked on the wiki and only saw pics for specialization ranks but let me know

lone monolith
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We appreciate the effort but uh, we've already got all of them wah

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lone monolith
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Sorry minor sleepy brain

pearl fern
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everyone typing just spill the beans already

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if the pics don't exist yet I'll wait for S2 and upload them

lone monolith
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We don't do non-transparent images when showcasing skins.

lapis kindle
pearl fern
lapis kindle
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yeye

lone monolith
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We just have a white background for these so it's a bit easier to tell with memory which ones are which. For the showcases we manually mask out the background.

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lapis kindle
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this is perfect for that

lone monolith
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Ah

pearl fern
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could put the skin cutouts there, but i think that would look weird because they are oriented differently than in game etc..

lapis kindle
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that’s awesome work honestly

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don’t worry about the PNGs, i already have those in the work

pearl fern
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it was a fun image processing exercise happy_friend

pearl fern
lapis kindle
pearl fern
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you mean the HD transparent screenshots?

lapis kindle
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plus the ones we use for the Icons Menu

pearl fern
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that's cool, the skins sections were only available for weapons so far

pearl fern
lone monolith
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Among other things

pearl fern
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i saw you were uploading every sticker and stuff recently

lapis kindle
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Wiki is slow, hold on

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these. i'm working on the rest of Specializations and Gadgets that don't have them (S1 + S2)

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that's why you probably saw some of the pages without them

pearl fern
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nice!

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so uh.. i'm a little confused on whether the image set is useful

lapis kindle
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i think we should add a section for these that includes the XP and all

pearl fern
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yeah i wanted to have a simple timeline with the 6 cards on the level points

lapis kindle
pearl fern
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ok that didn't make sense
i just mean a line with 6 dots lol

lapis kindle
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you can use the Career Progression as a template and iterate upon it

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or something like the Ranked Rewards as well

pearl fern
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oh i see, yeah i'd wanna show them all without extra clicks tho

lapis kindle
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we try not to keep creating new templates or modules if it's not necessary

pearl fern
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i'll have a look, gonna wait till s2 drops since who knows if they're gonna overhaul the ui anyway

lapis kindle
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visual similarity between these pages helps viewers navigate it quickly

lapis kindle
pearl fern
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that seems like it could be done with just css

lapis kindle
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we haven't pushed that update in all pages. that's why you don't see it in CP

torn plover
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Can we include in-depth stats for gadgets like C4? Something like min & max damage, explosive radius etc...

naive vapor
static light
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I will be at work tmrw, but I can help with all the new info when I get home. Have a good S2 everyone! hug_friend

lapis kindle
buoyant forum
ancient wharf
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anyone know the famas per bullet?

lone monolith
buoyant forum
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Ah

placid drift
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Hello Finals WiKi!!
Fun Fact:

Did you know depending on the language you chosen for the game your build name get saved in different language

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buoyant forum
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Do we have name plates now? And emblems? moolah

placid drift
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nono it just same Heavy and lite thing but it seem the language just change

buoyant forum
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No I meant in upper right corner

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Picture beside your name

placid drift
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you mean that badge ?

buoyant forum
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Ya

placid drift
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that ur rank icon

buoyant forum
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Not league?

placid drift
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i think it your rank icon

buoyant forum
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Huh

minor finch
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I've added the S2 Career Circuits to https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Career_Progression ospuze

Since there are several layers to these, I've tried to use straightforward and intuitive navigation. Chances are there's a better solution that requires more effort, but lmk if you have any thoughts.

lapis kindle
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we can just update this along the way happy_friend

minor finch
pearl fern
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time to rewrite some code

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unborn ether
pearl fern
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apparently throwing knives didnt get a level 7 💀 💀
(this is the only equipment item with a level 6 skin but no level 7 skin, i think they actually forgot)

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pearl fern
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additionally, level 6->7 takes less XP than level 5->6 for some reason, instead of increasing

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lapis kindle
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93R, FAMAS and KS-23 infobox and skin images have been uploaded. feel free to populate the pages with info. i'll be adding their icons for the menu soon happy_friend

static light
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bundles are updated

static light
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working on bp now

lapis kindle
pearl fern
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https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/SYS%24HORIZON

This really needs to be moved to wiki/Horizon. Not just because this is an ugly URL, but Sys$ is just a prefix, just as 2032 is a suffix to LAS VEGAS 2032, which we have on wiki/Las_Vegas.

CNS has introduced a new map: HORIZON. It’s a glitchy, colorful cityscape that’s partially loaded with floating geometric shapes.

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@lapis kindle if you agree I can move it over

lapis kindle
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in the description we can have "Sys$Horizon, or simply, Horizon" so people know the real name as well

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new weapon icons and bundle images have been added. i will continue with cosmetics tomorrow

pearl fern
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redirect added happy_friend

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lapis kindle
violet lance
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Will the favicon be changed to fit the new theme or stay the same?

barren jetty
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a matching favicon would be cool

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hmm might wanna make that page eventually

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hmm actually i guess a redirect to THE FINALS:General disclaimer would be fine for now

static light
lapis kindle
heavy gale
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You are amazing

golden laurel
heavy gale
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Embark is amazing

potent lily
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noticed some other things but not sure if its worth diving into for a deeper look.

lapis kindle
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it’s assets for the Wiki, there are no EEs hidden there

potent lily
golden laurel
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hmmmmmmm yeah this is not a fully cleaned up image

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Let me pull it back and get you a better one

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can you take it down until then?

potent lily
golden laurel
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If it is already Wiki-fied

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Yeah but I realize I did not do my due-diligence and make sure it was all clean. Rob is working on now while shaking his head at me and making tsk tsk noises Robatama

potent lily
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its in the bug channel, team has been notified

heavy gale
fair gyro
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Hopefully embark adds a new rank for top 500 😁

rustic glade
fair gyro
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@rustic glade but if there’s no exclusivity then kinda of defeats the competitiveness (like anyone can get the fcar skin rn)

rustic glade
static light
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typos in the battlepass, literally unplayable

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tardy bluff
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the wiki is the first on google search for me now, nice

ancient cove
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yup, finally passed the fandom

harsh umbra
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I have a question about the defib changes. What was the reasoning behind the timer for a defib revive when they spawn in?

ancient cove
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this is not the channel for this i'm afraid

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i mean unless you're trying to put it in the wiki to provide an explanation

pearl fern
tardy bluff
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weird i had same search

pearl fern
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for some of the pages, the wiki > fandom, but for most older pages it's still fandom

lapis kindle
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oh well. that's fine - you can't beat them because ads

vague basin
pearl fern
vague basin
pearl fern
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okay, which item?

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i can tell you that for weapons, it's just: more damage means more XP gained

vague basin
pearl fern
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No, contracts only apply to career rank and battle pass

vague basin
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ah

pearl fern
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item mastery xp can only be earned by using that specific item the intended way

vague basin
pearl fern
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well for example, frag grenade gets XP based on damage dealt to enemies, dome shield gets XP based on how much damage your domes took, jump pad gets XP when you place it down

vague basin
pearl fern
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so if you dealt 840 dmg with grenades in a round, let's pretend the conversion rate is 2.0, you would get 1680 XP for that round

vague basin
pearl fern
pearl fern
dense pasture
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How does the new ranked system work without fp ?

pearl fern
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damage falloff for revolver is pretty intense

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green=body shot, blue=headshot
(x=meters distance, y=damage)

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This is what 23 meters looks like, anything further rapidly drops in damage

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static light
pearl fern
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dmg is 100% to 45% from 23m-40m

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looks like that is already there, but uh, that is a bit confusing, the damage that falls off is 55%

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45% is where it ends up

static light
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i might just rename the falloff% header so it makes more sense

pearl fern
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I'll put it on 45% if it's supposed to be the inverse

pearl fern
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for the others, "falloff start" and "falloff end"

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current titles are pretty confusing

static light
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yeah

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does this makes sense?

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pearl fern
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No, then it should say 0% at min falloff

static light
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lol my bad

pearl fern
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well, i’m reconsidering “end” as that implies anything past 40m is full dmg;

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Falloff cap could work

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I think falloff start does work better than min falloff

static light
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how about falloff start and falloff max

pearl fern
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sure

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max falloff probably reads better even if it feels a little inconsistent

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max is preferably an adjective here

minor finch
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Embark included a sort-of official Power Shift render in the 2.0.0 patch notes. It might work better on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gamemodes than the screenshot used currently.

Example with Power_Shift_cover.png, I can't add this to the page myself.

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normal ermine
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this is not the place you are looking for

pearl fern
lapis kindle
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most of the new BP and Store skins for Weapons have been uploaded - just need to work on some of the legendary ones

pearl fern
# minor finch Embark included a sort-of official Power Shift render in the 2.0.0 patch notes. ...

it's also worth noting that the Bank-It picture, for some reason, has a cashout station in it. the deposit station looks like this: http://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Deposit_Station

THE FINALS
Deposit Station

Deposit stations are objects that appear in the arena periodically during Bank-It rounds, where they replace the usual cashout stations. Deposit stations are used by contestants to secure any coins they are carrying for their team.

heavy gale
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nice embed YEP

pearl fern
static light
pearl fern
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I was planning to make some pages for the events with images and mechanics at some point, just haven't found time

pearl fern
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@static light why is Bank It called Bank-It on the wiki?

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i never questioned it, but after checking, that's not what embark calls it

static light
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I think that's what it was called wehen it was first introduced

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you can make a redirect

pearl fern
static light
pearl fern
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thanks happy_friend

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I've updatedthe other mentions across the wiki

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Now also updated the bank it page to have its information organized better
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Bank_It

THE FINALS
Bank It

This game mode includes four teams of three battling for coins in a casual-friendly, combat-focused setting. The team that reaches the max limit first, or the team with the most cash banked at the end of the round, wins.

crystal sand
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checked the wiki cause i couldnt find anything elsewhere does the impact canditate have a custom voice like the lancer outfit?

lilac glen
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Whats this thing? A pug? Got like code in its body

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heavy gale
pearl fern
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93R: Beretta 93 Raffica (🇮🇹 volley/burst)
LH1: ❓ (based on M14, appears to be an exact replica of SOCOM 16)
M11: Military Armament Corporation Model 11 🇺🇸
SH1900: Remington Shotgun Model 1900 🇺🇸
SR-84: Browning A-Bolt Sniper Rifle 1984 🇯🇵
V9S: Laugo Arms Alien 9mm Suppressed 🇨🇿 (V likely replaces A for copyright reasons)
XP-54: Heckler & Koch Machinenpistol Werknummern 54 🇩🇪 (X likely replaces M for copyright reasons)

AKM: Avtomat Kalashnikova Modernizirovanny (🇷🇺 Kalashnikov's Automatic Rifle Modernised)
CL-40: China Lake Model pump 40mm grenade launcher 🇺🇸
FAMAS: Fusil d'Assaut de la Manufacture d'Armes de Saint-Étienne (🇫🇷 Assault rifle from the Saint-Étienne Weapon Factory)
FCAR: FN Herstal Combat Assault Rifle 🇧🇪
Model 1887: Winchester Model 1887 🇺🇸
R.357: Taurus Raging Bull Revolver .357 Magnum 🇧🇷

KS-23: Karabin Spetsialniy 23mm (🇷🇺 Special Carbine)
MGL32: Model 32 Multi-shot Grenade Launcher 🇿🇦
M60: Machine Gun, Caliber 7.62mm, Model 60 🇺🇸
SA1216: SRM Arms Model 1216 🇺🇸

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Hoping to figure out what the different letters and numbers of all the guns mean.
If anyone has any clue on what one of those Light Gun names means, it would be greatly appreciated! friend

lilac glen
bitter shard
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And another thing, the m14 is not a modernized M1 grand, as they use entirely different feeding systems, and ammo calibers

quasi pivot
lone monolith
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Hello wiki chat, does anyone have a good resolution picture of the top of the CB2 Stealth Outfit?

lone monolith
pearl fern
pearl fern
pearl fern
# bitter shard And another thing, the m14 is not a modernized M1 grand, as they use entirely di...

The M14 represented a modernized update to the M1 Garand, with numerous upgrades and enhancements. However, the most obvious change was the switch from the Garand’s en-bloc clip system to the M14’s detachable box magazine system. (https://www.thearmorylife.com/an-m14-garand/)
i included that info only because it could be of significance for the naming of the LH1.
the other info you sent speaks for itself from the names that are already figured out. and if you found some more specific info on one of these guns related to the in game name, it may mean we can get closer to finding out these names.

lone monolith
quick sapphire
pearl fern
lone monolith
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@stiff dove, @loud solar, you heard the man

pearl fern
lone monolith
pearl fern
lone monolith
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Can someone pull out a pic of the LH1

pearl fern
lone monolith
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Just had a thought on what it could be referring to

pearl fern
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I can pull an alternate angle from the game if you'd like

lone monolith
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That's alright

pearl fern
lone monolith
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Ok not an M14E1, maybe an M14A1 minus the bipod?

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Note I just woke up from 6 hours of afternoon sleep so I'm probably pulling nonsense, but still

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pearl fern
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It looks like it yeah, besides a few modern tweaks

lone monolith
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Also found this regarding it (M14E2 was the previous designation of the M14A1)

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Here's a replica

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Courtesy of Random Guy on M14Forum

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Right, I'll try and actually wake up now

quick sapphire
lone monolith
quick sapphire
lone monolith
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Yarp

pearl fern
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Springfield Armory M1A

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quick sapphire
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I've had the pleasure to shoot one a while back it's a really fuckin' nice gun too.

lone monolith
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Never got around to shooting rifles of that design myself

quick sapphire
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Can't do anything about the weight but the thing has disgusting range for a carbine.

pearl fern
# pearl fern Springfield Armory M1A

wiki user 0bleedbeliever claims,

The LH1 is modeled after the Springfield Armory M1A semi-automatic rifle, which itself is based on the M14 selective-fire rifle. The in-game model of the weapon bears the closest resemblance to the SOCOM 16 variant of the M1A, as evidenced by the shortened barrel.

lone monolith
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But hey if you need help with sidearms or eastern production weaponry, dab me up

quick sapphire
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The thing I'm really stumped with is the SR-84. Genuinely can't find a real-world counterpart for it.

lone monolith
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Lemme look at it better, hit me up with a photo

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I just pulled the name theory out my ass icl

pearl fern
quick sapphire
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I think the XP-45 is just an inversion of the HK54 internal name for the MP5.

pearl fern
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It's XP-54 I think

quick sapphire
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oh

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so it's literally just that they replaced the hk with an xp

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It literally is just an MP5A5 though, and it was called an MP5 in the Beta (i.e. while they could still call it that without monetizing the game and forking over money).

static light
quick sapphire
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I'm gonna go drink some water.

pearl fern
heavy gale
quick sapphire
heavy gale
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M11 used to be M-10 ??? or MAC-10 but that I might be misremembering

quick sapphire
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I still find it weird that they never changed the named of the R.357 to R.44 honestly.

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It doesn't make much sense to leave it as .357 since the only Taurus model that fires .357 to my knowledge is the Raging Hunter.

pearl fern
quick sapphire
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Also I did go and clarify on the XP-54 page that it's based on later revisions of the MP5A3.

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Since the one ingame uses the Navy lower with the bullet indicators.

pearl fern
quick sapphire
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fucking mario party what

pearl fern
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@quick sapphire [on researching the XP-54's name:] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch#HK_naming_system
'54' means: Selective fire carbine & [Handgun cartridges/9×19mm Parabellum, .40 S&W .45 ACP, etc. ]
this is correct for the MP5A3.
now, "XP" may just be a copyright-safe version of "MP" meaning "Maschinenpistole" also present in MP5A3. I can't really think of anything else. H&K does not have a designation for XP

quick sapphire
pearl fern
pearl fern
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valmet_Sniper_M86

Valmet Sniper M86

The Valmet Sniper M86 (also Valmet M86 Sniper and Valmet Sniper) is a Finnish sniper rifle designed by the former Finnish state firearms company Valmet. The rifle was Valmet's first and only proper sniper rifle, and after the merger with Sako in 1986, its development work was the basis for the Sako TRG sniper rifles. The rifle was produced only ...

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The end of the stock is closer to the barrel because it doesn't have a bipod attachment

unborn dust
minor finch
lapis kindle
torpid lynx
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Greetings comrades.
I have a stupid idea.

My friend trying to grind for Invis Watch Ghost Charm Level 5 Reward.
Can and Should we make a chart or something on a wiki that shows how much Experience you get per action with each Equipment and Weapon?

minor finch
pearl fern
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as for invisibility, you get XP for the amount of seconds you had it enabled in the round. no exact conversion rate is known atm, volt probably has it (he's out of town at the moment)
EDIT: that's not quite right see message below

strange frost
# torpid lynx Greetings comrades. I have a stupid idea. My friend trying to grind for Invis W...

At the time I tested, bearing in mind I haven't played S2 yet and they've apparently made some changes, cloak only gained xp for each time you activate it.
Time spent invisible, proximity to enemies while invisible, and attacking from invisibility - none of them gave any kind of xp bonus.
You get 20xp each time you toggle cloak on, that's it.
As a result, the fastest way to level it up is to rapidly spam turning cloak on and off, wait for it to recharge, then spam it again.
It's annoying, and it's boring, but that's all that contributed when I tested it

pearl fern
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Oh! that means the nerf to invisibility, where it costs 2 seconds to trigger it instead of 1 second, is a big hit to this xp farmer sad_friend

strange frost
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Yeah it's not great, but my testing took place after that change, and spamming it practically all game still resulted in an xp gain between 4000-6500 per round depending how long it went

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It's just a really boring one to farm

pearl fern
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well, good thing the max level 5 only takes 108k

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not the 414k like level 7 gadgets 😁

strange frost
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That ain't happening lol

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I'll be home this afternoon (Australian time). Got some work I need to do once I'm there, but time allowing, I'll try to put the Season 1 info I got into some kinda document and link it here

minor finch
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I can test the data reshaper today since I've been grinding its mastery levels. It's most likely either times activated or number of objects reshaped.

pearl fern
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data reshaper is 20 XP per use, amount of objects reshaped does not matter (only tested using it on barrels tho)

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but since it doesn't matter how many barrels you take, i reckon it gives XP on activate, so it doesn't matter if you're transforming enemy traps instead

minor finch
strange frost
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Would be worth testing on enemy props imo, just because glitch grenades have a unique xp interaction there

pearl fern
strange frost
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Glitching enemy gadgets with nades gives bonus xp, so reshaping may have a similar allowance?

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But just speculation

minor finch
minor finch
pearl fern
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but again, i'm not 100% certain there isn't a bonus reward for polymorphing enemy defenses

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but knowing the other gadget xp gains are pretty boring, there probably isn't

minor finch
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Just tested on normal barrels and it looks like +25xp per-activate (same with the dematerializer). Haven't tried on enemy objects yet.

minor finch
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an enemy turret was also 25xp

heavy gale
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how ya'll finding the XP values? NOTED

pearl fern
# heavy gale how ya'll finding the XP values? <a:NOTED:1154029517816479805>

you can try to capture the XP gains at the end of the match, but it's easier to write down how much XP you have on an item from the equipment menu before and after the game and then compare.
in the game, you use the gadgets sparingly, just enough to analyze which interactions with the gadget are giving you XP, so e.g. you write down that you jumped on a jump pad 5 times and placed one down 7 times (or you just record your game and skip through the footage afterwards)

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if you got +1400 XP after the game, you would know that it's probably +200XP per placement and no XP for jumps (of course with more tests, you can test additional interactions and the more tests the more sure you can be)

play a mode where you can swap to your reserves, so that you can test 4 additional items besides your regular loadout throughout the game

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for some gadgets like the grenade you get XP for damage, so the best way to measure that is to eliminate yourself after dealing dmg to an enemy (e.g. putting 2 mines at your feet) so you can see the damage recap and note that down

lapis kindle
minor finch
vestal knot
pearl fern
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@lapis kindle Added a new style for the levels on the battle pass, based on the in-game look and feel, hopefully makes it easier to read and easier to see which levels are free

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lapis kindle
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this should be secondary info and not as prominent as it is now

pearl fern
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when you think about it, in game, the "icon" and "level "are the only two things you see for each of the Levels unless you click on them

lapis kindle
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again, we're not trying to recreate everything that is in-game

pearl fern
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of course

lapis kindle
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the idea of this list is to have a quick glance of the cosmetics in numerical order - everything in the table is easy to read and understand, but we need the image to be the focus

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that's why we just have an asterisk and a disclaimer. if we want to add this, then it needs to be adjusted according to that hierarchy

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i also don't know what happened here but this used to be aligned

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pearl fern
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just check the cells down the column for extraneous data

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most likely one of the images didn't load on your browser, and thus shows as a filename instead.

lapis kindle
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ye that's it

pearl fern
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I will make it smaller
the colors are from the game, do you think they are too prominent?

lapis kindle
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anyway feel free to adjust these so they don't look out of place

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it's late over here and i'm not working on the Wiki currently

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it's not about the color, it's just really not necessary in this table - that's all. we don't add more things that the viewer needs to figure out for the sake of aesthetics or looking like the game. that's why you'll see many things staying rather simple and wiki-ish

pearl fern
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i dont agree. if this was really the style you were going for then Infobox should have looked like a borish table as well, but you went for something more playful. and to be clear, i would also say that's the right direction for a wiki about this game. so i wouldn't feel too pressed about making the wiki look like a monthly sales report instead of making it a bit more fun where it's appropriate.
in this case its just a highlighted number. the 'hard to understand' thing doesnt really apply here imo. anyway this is just my two cents.

lapis kindle
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that’s fine by me - i gave you my opinion on it but also said i liked the idea and it just needed tweaking

pearl fern
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alright. sorry if it sounds annoyed

lapis kindle
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it sounded rude tbh, but that’s just online chatting

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and it’s all good, i don’t take these things personally

pearl fern
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i hoped to give some constructive criticism bc we have different ideas on what some things should look like but of course i will always respect what your wishes are for the looks. thats why i pinged you with this idea too

lapis kindle
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like i said, all it needs is adjusting if you want to implement it

pearl fern
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Updated to smaller boxes

strange frost
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Putting together a Google Doc now

strange frost
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That's all the testing I did last season.

wintry remnant
static light
tawdry granite
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Yow, I just wanted to know if it was possible to transfer some credit from an account to another (I'm on steam but my friend is on a PS5 so I was wondering if I could offer him a skin or smth directly from the game)

torpid lynx
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This Guy.

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Should we make The Finals sound bank?

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Made this clip for him.

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But my game running so hard with recording software on, that quality sucks.

minor finch
torpid lynx
torpid lynx
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Already found it on Loadout -> Cosmetics

sharp fox
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They need to replace the level seven with this

minor finch
lone monolith
torpid lynx
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So far i really like WIki Page, doing great comrades 👍

lone monolith
pearl fern
quick sapphire
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another thing to note: the SR-84's weaver rail isn't integral, it snaps onto the irons

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it's easiest to see on the Eerie Ossuary or Scrapyard Scars skins

violet lance
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Projectile speed would be good in the infobox weapons template. We know the projectile speed for the throwing knives now.

quick sapphire
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I FOUND IT

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IT'S A BROWNING A BOLT

pearl fern
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🫢

quick sapphire
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DESIGNED IN 1984

pearl fern
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Damn hats off to you

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down to the crevice in the comb

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designed US, manufactured JP 🤔

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we’ll put both

violet lance
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Why is falloff for the R .357 in the wiki 55% when patchnotes say 45%

pearl fern
quick sapphire
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oh i found the sh1900

pearl fern
quick sapphire
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it's a Remington Model 1900

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big whoop, i know

pearl fern
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You’re on a streak

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This thing does not even have a wiki

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guess that made it hard to find

quick sapphire
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the V9S is literally just an Alien, I think the 9 comes from it being chambered in 9mm?

pearl fern
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Added Remington 1900 to the list

pearl fern
violet lance
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And we have already confusion errors because the FCAR uses the original 55%

pearl fern
violet lance
pearl fern
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Its also semantically easier to understand when you list it together with start and end off falloff (100% to 55%)

quick sapphire
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the S might come from Suppressed?

pearl fern
pearl fern
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the suppressor is not a standard feature of that gun by any means

quick sapphire
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real dogshit gun btw, had the displeasure of shooting one (also in vegas)

pearl fern
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Oh you mean IRL lol
Thats a nice coincidence that you got to shoot it in las vegas

quick sapphire
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lmao yeah

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i'd say the main issues with it are just the overall build quality for a 7k gun and the fact the irons are REALLY high up

pearl fern
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Their selling points low bore axis

violet lance
pearl fern
quick sapphire
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could also be from the 500

pearl fern
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Could also be Version 9 if that has any significance

quick sapphire
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actually 500 wouldn't make since, that'd be D9S

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i could take a stretch a bit: the word "Outer Space" in Czech is "Vesmír"

pearl fern
unreal blade
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ive counted, if u are free player that came since Season 1, if u get all buck last season and this season in bp u still cant buy season 2 bp for free
sad 😢

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🥺 unless the weekly thing in this season giv buck

pearl fern
violet lance
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It's 1550 with the premium version multibucks right?

pearl fern
unreal blade
violet lance
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Isn't Ospuze a sponsor this season too? https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Season_2 There's only Vaiiya listed as sponsor

THE FINALS
Season 2

Season 2 of THE FINALS started on March 14th, 2024.
This season was sponsored by VAIIYA, and featured an all-new arena: SYS$HORIZON.
Season 2 also introduced:

New Cosmetics
New Retro-themed Battlepass
New Weapons: 93R(L), FAMAS(M), KS-23(H)
New Gadgets: Anti-Gravity Cube(H), Gateway(L), Data Reshaper(M)
New Specialization: Dematerializer(M)
Ne...

pearl fern
violet lance
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I paid because i like to support Embark Studios

unreal blade
lapis kindle
vestal knot
violet lance
lapis kindle
violet lance
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Do we have stats like Cashbox activate time, Cashout time, Cashout steal time on the wiki?

normal ermine
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i would be nice to update the website with the new map

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lapis kindle
normal ermine
heavy gale
normal ermine
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practice range should be at the bottom

pearl fern
heavy gale
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it still kinda sounds as an arena

pearl fern
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eh idk what someone would wanna look up about the practice range

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Oh yeah, i see now that Bank It is still spelled with a hyphen there

heavy gale
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added Horizon, added Power shift, changed Bank-it to Bank It

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might take a while for it to actually update

heavy gale
pearl fern
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makes sense, tho if you wanna do it to honor those players maybe hall of trophies needs its own link, and on that page would be a link to practice range article since it's located there

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^ under game info or something.
also idk if pre-release is still as relevant to have a link in that menu, maybe it could be paired up with Seasons.

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just got a popup from NEXON Game Security accessing my hard drive when launching the new finals patch 🤨

heavy gale
pearl fern
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so no more easy anti cheat?

heavy gale
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layer upon layer

pearl fern
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:despair:

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hmm they didn't add the missing level 7 to the throwing knives

heavy gale
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arenas page gonna need a redo anyway once we gain more arenas

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else it'll just look messy in the future

pearl fern
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although I would classify a map as an arena if there is some sorta competition going on but yeah i get that

pearl fern
heavy gale
pearl fern
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this is another protected page :|

heavy gale
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it's a low priority thing for now though, in the future might just use the category page for arena as that will work Shruge

quick sapphire
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so called wikis when i protect all their pages

pearl fern
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wouldn't want a funny person to add Bikini bottom there or something idk

pearl fern
pearl fern
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Your call on the SR was genius

lone monolith
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I protected most of the transition pages since we won't need to update them that often and we don't want vandals

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Like when someone vandalized the main page for like 20 minutes KEKW

pearl fern
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oh yeah, i get why you'd wanna protect the main page

abstract tendon
pearl fern
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just uploaded 417 files and i forgot to enter the description beforehand sad_friend

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thought there would be a confirmation button lol

quick sapphire
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i'm genuinely stumped on the lh1 honestly

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i'm thinking it probably is just patent dodging like the xp54 but i still have no clue where the lh comes from

pearl fern
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today in a game I got confused when my SR-84 did only 94 damage. apparently the gun has damage falloff.. it's just.. super far
here's the sniper doing around 33% of a medium's health, which is 83 dmg (instead of the usual 115)

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pearl fern
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solved, I'll add it to the page

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0% to 25% dmg falloff between 80m and 100m

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oh looks like the wiki actually only has falloff documented for like 3 guns to begin with

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even though every standard gun has falloff and for some it's more dire than you'd expect

tulip torrent
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Wait can i have that doc

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Oh i can just find out myself in practice i guess what I need

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Is that damage drop off?

pearl fern
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then just fire a shot and see if it’s less damage than before

violet lance
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Would it be better to show the damage numbers instead of the percentage of the falloff?

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I just checked how it's done on the BF1 wiki 🤮

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violet lance
lapis kindle
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and i think dmg# (distance) is also good - it's more precise than %

violet lance
lapis kindle
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and i don't think we'll get that info any time soon

pearl fern
violet lance
pearl fern
violet lance
pearl fern
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yes, one could use input type=range, which your browser will turn into a slider, with the right css it should be possible to make something w/o js scripts