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The sonar grenade does, and so does recon senses; is there another motion sensor equipment?
yes, it has a radius. but it does
will there be a tab on the wiki about events or is that already a thing?
do you mean in-game events (such as Meteor Shower) or events like Halloween, Winter, etc?
it'd be beneficial to include the CC BY-SA 4.0 license disclaimer in the footer
(terraria wiki for reference)

copyediting the general disclaimer hurt my brain bc of the amount of "the THE" being back to back
in game events
i feel like it'd be better to call them end game events
they are officially called Game Show Events
ah didnt know that
sorry for flooding the recent changes but this wiki is sorely lacking in template infrastructure
Some of the cooldown times (and other info) on the grenades need correcting:
Also, probably worth adding to the smoke grenade that as well as extinguishing fire it prevents fire from igniting gas, and add to the gas grenade that fire will ignite it (unless smoke or powder are present)
Also, the smoke section needs changing - the grey environmental canisters contain fire extinguisher powder, not smoke (it acts the same as smoke, but looks different).
Smoke has longer cooldown than gas???
Yeah, it is a bit odd, isn't it?
really odd
smoking is bad for you haha
added it to Smoke Infobox and the rest to Gas Uses & Interactions
we'll need to add Powder as part of Elements section
I don't think I can - it's all locked
i added it, and the cooldowns no worries
I have lots of info on these sorts of things too - like a pyro grenade on a gas canister acts like a 25-second fuse
you can just send it here and we'll update 
one shot to a gas canister is a 15-second fuse
Another one @lapis kindle
Also, all gas does 50 damage per second
(and is not cumulative between sources - i.e. if you have 3 gas sources in one location they will eliminate you at the same speed as a single gas grenade)
May i know the lore behind defibrilator
When you say clear it revives people.
Well… i mean like is there any story behind it
Behind the defibs? They're just... defibs?
Why do they go with defb, and not some sort of potions
Like, why defb, and not other stuff is what I meant, if i do make any sense
Oh
Sorry if i dont make any sense 🥲
Given that the game's art style for now is lite-futurism I guess it just made more sense on their end for the quick revive item to be defibs instead of something else.
I see, it’s quite cool tho, cant wait to see what they will come up with next.
Obviously that might change as new maps and seasons are released, right now it's more of a general slight futuristic vibe, given that the game thematically is a virtual gameshow there's not really a limit to what settings they choose to do.
My bp is almost maxed out and i didnt even buy the lvl 25 ones ☠️, hope there will be more content
This one also not edit yet it not effect the teammate already report this for a long time no one care
I changed it, thanks for pointing that out!
You can change it yourself if you wanted
never use wiki 😢 sry
The best way to learn is to try it, The worst you can do is muck up a page slightly which you can then fix 
Ok now I know how to do that
but can anyone add more legend ?
the wording is like how many that item exist at the time like Breach charge you can place 2 motion sensor you can place 3 etc.
The template would need to be updated to allow more value types
Hey my ranked guys I need your HELP.
Can a Bronze, Silver, Gold, & Plat Player send me a screen shot of your Rank progression from the leagues tab? (like this)
I am trying to get the required amount of fame points from each level.
i have not touched tournament yet lmao
Thank you.
Still need Silver
Actually I still need Silver, Gold, Plat
The problem is when someone shares their rank it will show that rank as their FP instead of the needed FP
EX. This Guy is Plat 2 and said that tier is at 4350 when I know it is not at that Odd number
This is what I have so far
atm, you can add that info as part of Use & Interactions - it’d need to worded according to what already exists in that section
Thank you will add info
sure thing, appreciate any updates that haven’t been done 
This is what I have and I still need the following ranks.
S1, G2, P2
If anyone can help that would be awesome
If you are the rank I need it will only show the fame point of what you are currently. I found S1 and it is 2750. Since you have gotten that rank you have gained 200 FP
Still Need Plat 2
Spread of Rank for the Top 10,000 Players
For some reason Silver goes plus 750 from S4 to S3 and then up by 1000.
images for the new Weapon skins in the Store have been created. we'll upload soon
Update again on the Rank Spread. These number are not intuitive. So this is good.
Don't know if you need it anymore but here you go
Thank you everyone who Sent me their Info

Does the FP earnings change from winning entire tournaments ?
Depending on what round of the tourney you end on points will be given depending on that, so a full tourney win is like 200 fp but if you lose after the second round you only get like 80 fp
I got like 600 from a full win and 200 for losing the last round
they should make defibs 1 shot heavies
Na this isn’t accurate
I got 550+ for winning, 350+ for losing the final round.
When you win the first round, you get 60-80 if you’re bronze, 45 minimum if you’re silver
what..?
Defibs should act as a nuclear warhead and only leaves the revived contestant alive
yup and make sure they make you auto win the game so it's balanced
I think overall it has to do with the amount of cashouts you get
if you miss a sledgehammer swing it should come out of the other guys monitor and knock his teeth out
it depends if you get in first place or 2nd from the rounds
Brilliant idea
do we have a chart on point gain per tournment elimation time IE 1st round 4th = -50 and rank cost
I don't think there is any easy way to find out.
WOuld involve getting one person of each rank teir and losing on each round while counting the number of cashouts. I do not even know if opening, starting, or stealing even count towards. SO many variables.
its just post
cus i reached diamond b4 but that was cb2 but i believe it hasnt changed
the cost was (-10) per rank bracket
anyone got a recoil chart for all guns?
Nukes need a buff
talking about ranks, does anyone know what affects SBMM?
some people say your K/D, some W/L but so far I haven't heard a concrete answer
as far as i can tell: W/L, performance (you can call this KD if you wish), and cash deposited per round affect how many rank points you put into your rank bar after each win. this is an oldschool style ladder where everyone starts at a flat 0cr bronze 4 though, and with the intense 60 game requirement for rank it will take a minute for the SBMM on the ladder to do its job which is why sometimes gold+ players are getting diamonds in their lobbies.
You guys are godsends love the idea :D
After years of development and multiple community Alpha and Beta playtests, the first season of THE FINALS started on December 7th, 2023.
This season was sponsored by HOLTOW and VOLPE, and featured an all-new arena: Las Vegas. Season 1 also introduced a 12-page Vegas-themed Battlepass, a new weapon, a new gadget, new contestant customization opt...
At the bottom of the wiki page. And on the top of the "T". Is that an image error?
it would appear so
though its interesting that its only showing for chromium
firefox
Oh yeah, I just checked Firefox. Nothing like that was shown.
Good old Firefox. I don't know why I even use Chrome. Will somebody fix it for Chrome users?
no its an error regardless of browser
So it is a "Wiki" error? I'm very new to this kind of stuff. The last time I F12 was to prank my 6th-grade classmate.
I'll look into it
Somewhere I saw a picture explaining the meaning of each icon of the problem with server connection, does anyone has it?
If something in the game does not work as intended, a series of red flashing icons will appear on your screen in the top right corner. Below
Huge thanks
I had at least 2 diamonds on my team alone when i was in bronze
goodmorning
CNS is that you?
what
They ‘hack’ the broadcasts during the games trailers lol
idk if anyone's sent this yet but heres all the weapon damage info https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17oI_V64feUYkiHrT5YGFE6kNGTCvfNaNiUiwrk9IITc/edit#gid=655924873
Intro
THE FINALS
All-In-One Informational Spreadsheet 2.0, by Valkyrie Aim (Please credit & Link this spreadsheet when you use it)
DPS & TTK For each weapon both Body & Head against EACH class!
All reloads may have a 0.2 second error as reloads are recorded directly after emptying a magazine in...
might be nice to mention the release date of the update somewhere here
perhaps similar to how patch notes are shown on the official patch notes page
hey do you have this icon in normal size and quality?

How much coin do you have
Yes.
anyone know what the weak spots on cranes are? tried using c4 on the walkway and it didn't work. can't tell if the wiki has it, but a page on weak points would be good
prollprolly the bottom
Somewhere on the base i think, usually i see the whole thing topple over
I’ve seen clips of the walkway getting destroyed
The entire crane is weak. You need 2 c4 or a charge and slam to destory it
Oh so I can break any part, as long as I have enough firepower?
Yeah
i'll work on making a {{delete}} template but that requires making so many more underlying templates to implement properly
slapping a page with [[Category:Candidates for deletion]] will suffice for now
depends if you want to go the Mbox module/template way or just have custom css
It's better to have it go thru a msgbox template, it'll be needed anyway
Module works too tho I've barely worked with modules so I wouldn't be able to do it myself
I'm pretty sure the Mbox template requires the Mbox module but we can just import that from Wikipedia
Yeah that'd be fine ig
I reference both Wikipedia and the terraria wiki since both their standards are pretty well laid out
starcitizen wiki is also a great one to reference as some of our design choices were inspired by that one
I haven't looked at their wiki so I'll take a look at that later
should have been a 1 shot with a c4 probably bad placement
its crazy how bad the sniper in vegas is compared to monaco
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1166779294404591707/1169024859834155108/image.png?ex=659dba3e&is=658b453e&hm=95ee50c1a74337ef34b07b383ccfbcb4b5182ffba1a34b0171a84dda9ab1157a&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1166779294404591707/1169025995702014072/image.png?ex=659dbb4c&is=658b464c&hm=37ddeb067be2009e4591a2f7e9244d98fc445729eaecbc7d2308df8c50f5a2eb&
where that mask at, embark?
can't find it anymore, no mention of it on the wiki
I want it back!
we haven't uploaded Season 0 Cosmetics yet
me wanting the blue iseul-t jacket from cb2
is it in the release though? I can't find it anywhere
it was a 400 coins (?) single purchase in the betas
It might get released in a bundle eventually
how long does it take for hp regen?
took one look at the main page and immediately see the inspiration
Is that true for every part of the crane? Tried blowing it up at the cockpit and nothing happened
that’s the strongest part of the crane
Thought so
The top one no
Or 2 red barrels
anybody knows the name of the track?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_-sYUHyhAw&ab_channel=THEFINALS
(season 1 trailer)
Provided to YouTube by Epic
Throw It Down (The Finals Remix) · Dominique Young Unique
Throw It Down
℗ 2023 Sony Music Entertainment UK Limited
Released on: 2023-12-08
Composer, Lyricist: Dominique Clark
Producer: Benga
Composer, Lyricist: Daniel Stein
Producer: The Invisible Men
Composer, Lyricist, Programmer: Jon Shave
Composer, Lyricist: ...
Weapons stats?
yes
No
did anyone know the cannons actually work in monaco
Found it out the other day and was super happy lol
yeah i found it out yesterday or sum and thought i was the first aahaahahaaahaa
for a long while
Please use this channel to talk about Wiki related subjects. Not anything outside of that. 
yo how did u do the big massive text??
magic
#and a space before the text amount of hashtags make it diff size up to three
but apparently ur not allowed to do it unless ur cm or other ranks
it’s hard to talk about anything with the slowdown 😭💀
They work on Skyway Stadium too
In the Closed Alpha you could rotate them left and right. Those were the days! haha
Where r they on skyway
The Monaco inspired areas have them.
what canons ?
at W and E i think at the very side like the walls there is 2 cannons that u can use
ohh i remember that... it was awesome idk why it wasnt in the release but god it was so fun
lmao
Ranked Console vs PC Top 10,000
is there a website for that information as well that refreshes ?
I was talking to the guy who made the Enhanced Leaderboard website and got the JSON file from his Source data website.
I then tool only the values that have a steam account and then a PC/PSN account name.
https://the-finals-leaderboard.leonlarsson.com/
https://storage.googleapis.com/embark-discovery-leaderboard/leaderboard-crossplay-discovery-live.json
Any plans to give individual cosmetics or bundles their own wiki pages? If it's not shot down I'd be happy to write some drafts.
not too sure what our plan is, we will have a page dedicated to cosmetics in the future most likely
I'd say there's some decent data points for cosmetics. Type, rarity, price, availability / source, history, supported items. Although if for no other reason, good cosmetics pages would give an SEO headstart over the Fandom wiki lol
was this supposed to mean something?
yeah pretty sure it was covered in one of the #easter-eggs tiers
easter eggs
oh i see you gotta opt into the channel so i didnt see
here is the full context
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/CNS
I just wanna say that I appreciate that the wiki uses the best mediawiki theme
@floral marten I tried to post a suggested update to some parts of the Wiki - but some words are blocked, I'm guessing. Are you able to see what words are the issue, so I can potentially change it? It says the post can be viewed by "server owners"
nukes, IEDs ICBMs
nope not those...
dont have access to it, kindly use #📧┇contact-us
Some suggested updates to the Gameplay section:
Current:
FIRE
Fire spreads easily through vegetation and damages all contestants that it touches. Affected contestants will then burn, inflicting small but constant damage. It can be released through orange Oil Barrels, Pyro Mines, Pyro Grenades and the Flamethrower. Fire will immediately be smothered by smoke, but will ignite Gas and quickly destroy Goo.
Updated:
FIRE
Fire spreads easily through vegetation and damages all contestants that it touches. Affected contestants will then burn, inflicting small but constant damage. It can be released through orange Flammable Canisters, Pyro Mines, Pyro Grenades and the Flamethrower. Fire will immediately be smothered by smoke or powder, but will ignite Gas within a second and ignite Goo immediately, destroying it in six seconds (provided no smoke or powder is present in the same location as the Gas or Goo). Fires from pyro grenades, pyro mines, and flammable canisters all last 12 seconds and deal 35 points of damage per second, and are not cumulative if there is more than one source in a location.
No worries, I'll work though it and figure it out
Current:
SMOKE
Smoke can act as a deescalator, blocking vision and allowing retreat. It can be released through grey Powder Canisters and Smoke Grenades. It instantly smothers fire. Smoke can be seen through using Thermal Vision. By using Recon Senses or other intel-based gadgets to locate enemies, smoke can be an effective one-sided barrier.
Updated:
SMOKE and POWDER
Smoke and Powder can act as deescalators, blocking vision and allowing retreat. They can be released through grey Powder Canisters or Smoke Grenades, respectively. Smoke and Powder have a slightly different visual appearance, with Smoke having a more billowing form. They both instantly smother fire and prevent it from igniting Gas or Goo, or causing damage. Smoke and Powder can be seen through using Thermal Vision. By using Recon Senses or other intel-based gadgets to locate enemies, smoke can be an effective one-sided barrier.
Current:
EXPLOSION
Explosions do immediate damage to both contestants and structures. Explosions can be created from red canisters, Frag Grenades, Explosive Mines, C4 and the RPG, or combinations of these, such as mines and C4 attached to red, flammable or gas canisters (known as "ICBMs," "nukes," or "IEDs"). Explosions can also activate buttons and displace Cashout Stations.
Updated:
EXPLOSION
Explosions do immediate damage to both contestants and structures. Explosions can be created from red canisters, Frag Grenades, Explosive Mines, Pyro Mines, C4, Flammable Canisters and the RPG. Explosions can also activate buttons, displace Cashout Stations, and potentially trigger mines or other canisters to explode
I think it was just the length of the entire thing
might be ill inform the team about this too
made my first edit to the wiki a little bit ago! just a little trivia about what Las Vegas is based on, can't wait to contribute more info in the future
I still think that adding a strategy page/section could be really nice
If it was in one piece then yeah that was absolutely what did it.
Yeah it was.
Discord no like my essays
I saw that on the wiki i cant find information about the QR code in Skyway Stadium (hotel area). There are also other words next to the code. Is it in the works? I can provide photos and stuff of it if needed
Most of all. Those the QR work anyway? Maybe it just doesn’t
this has been known since Open Beta. they redirect to the game’s website and the info on them are a reference to UE5 assets iirc
we could add it in the Trivia section
Ah sorry didn’t know
no worries 
does anyone have the math on how fame points are gained? and like the basis of it? like how much you get for winning? i remember seeing a link for finals wiki made by community but idk where it is
Btw, what about the QR code on the holtow m11 weapon? its just a blinking red dot, is that it?
Yes nothing more discovered by now
(I looked for it on wiki this morning)
I love the credits
How many seconds does it take to open the vault?
source?
the wiki
could you give me link, i didn't find
This game mode involves teams of three competing to collect the most cash within an 8-minute time limit. Teams earn cash by depositing Cash Boxes into Cashout Stations. Contestants must first locate an available Vault in the arena and open it, and a Cash Box will appear within 20 seconds. Contestants can then carry the Cash Box to one of the Cas...
just double checked the timings
and yeah it's 20 seconds
This chart makes FCAR not seem as strong as I thought
For some reason I thought it lost less damage at further ranges compared to AKM
both the rifles+lewisgun all have the same damage falloff (unless somebody can prove me wrong, please tell me if you do), 1/3 of it's damage lost at 40 meters and caps there, idk why the fcar feels so strong at range compared to the other two, probably the sights making it easier to aim tbh
@jagged mantle
That makes sense
do you guys know if its possible to disable the aim assist on meele weapons, it makes the dagger much less controllable and playable
the what
dagger LMAO
lol
bruuhhhhhhhhhhhhh
what did i miss here xD
Tier 1F EE page needs a little fix here:
switch it with a trashcan instead of a flowerpot
new Weapon skins from the Store refresh have been added 
Are there different sounds in the game when enemy hit me in a body and in a head?
there is for the opposing side(s) yes, it's a light Ping/Ching sound when they hit a headshot
Thx. Every game I get one enemy who hits every single bullet in head
We're not doing that here
Hey, what do I must do in quest "stay hidden"?
Can someone help? I have 74/300 for a week and dont know what actually is staying hidden
I'm going to assume it's probably using invis on light and standing still
maybe not the standing still part
easily achieved by using Cloaking Device on Light Class
thx
fixed, ty
also updated the elements section from your edits
Thanks! 
Do you get more fame points for a win the higher rank you are? Or do you always get the same amount of fame points for winning a ranked tournament? Because I cant imagine the top ranks playing like 1900 games in a month to get 290k fame
Thank you, that is all the information I was looking for and more, this will come in handy :) !
@lone monolith this clue should probably be added to the wiki entry for T2ABC/DEF eh?
How much xp does killing with the defib give you, if you can do it consistently is it worth killing people with it to level them up
Probably 
what does this mean
I think it means you have a bad connection to the server?
That is packet loss
@narrow knot you can still edit the corresponding update pages, it just grabs the page contents from the settings.
Thanks, I just saw it
You're doing some great work btw 
Do we know if the shop resets / adds new items at a consistent time?
Yes, we know. Every week at 13:00 GMT+0
Ooo tyty!
how do you guys get the game assets directly from the files?
not sure if this is the right channel, but has anyone had any luck modifying TAA config files to get rid of this god awful aliasing. i don't see the engine.ini file so i assume its hidden and locked.
Sir, this is wiki chat
some images were requested through cm channels directly from the devs.
datamining is stinky business
ah gotcha
alot of stuff is screen capped afaik
Usually I just asked around for things we needed that we couldn't get directly from the game without tampering.
All of the loading screens for Monaco and Seoul were me asking and begging for them hah
Shouldn't the infographic for the Closed Alpha be under the Closed Alpha?
yes
Distribution of Top 10,000 Players on Xbox, PlayStation, and Steam: A Comprehensive Overview of Rank Spread Among 30,000 Gamers
I made this btw
NICE WORK BTW
**Hello wiki users, please remember to add comments on pages with more information you'd like to see added by the community!! **
is there a reason for not showing a photo of every Specializations like weapons and gadget menu ?
they do it in the subsections
idk i just found it weird while looking around
Why does it matter if everyone is in the same rank pool
good point
we just haven’t updated, that’s all
is there ever going to be some sort of lore page on the wiki?
THE FINALS takes place about 75 years in the future, roughly around the year 2100. It is the greatest virtual game show on the planet, with a large, global fan base, and considered a window to a bigger world outside of the real one - known as the Meatspace. But most people spend their time in the Virtual World. Contestants join through VR-techno...
possible the finals will be an actual thing
its on the homepage 
- we have a search icon/bar in case you have trouble finding something

search for balls
🤨
not mod anymore? also, look it up on the wiki
I was never mod 
volunteer 🥲
all sorted now btw
cool
There needs to be more information on damage ranges and how big the aoe are.
oop
how long is the charge up for the sword? Like what is the minimum time it takes before you can release and attack
Is C0ntestants intentional? I know there have been some EEs planted around the wiki but those seem isolated to the TFEE articles.
probably not intended
the titles used to be in all caps but they got changed recently, probably why no one noticed until now
also @minor finch ty for fixing my mistakes
np 
The wiki says that a ranked tournament win should be +1000FP, but this diamond 1 player only receives 690 FP for winning tournament, what is the difference with the number stated on the wiki?
You’re getting 690???
no that's not me haha I wish, that's a screenshot from a diamond 1 streamer winning a tourney and (only) getting 690. While wiki says 1000FP
Fame Points (FP) are gained and lost based on when the team is knocked out of the tournament, or wins. The amount of FP gained and lost is dependent on your rank, with each full rank above bronze giving between -50 or +50 FP decrease/increase dependent on when you get knocked out. The baseline FP Gain / Loss is listed below:
Round 1 knock out:
4th: -100 FP (-50 Per rank)
3rd: -50 FP (-50 Per rank)
Round 2 knock out:
4th: +50 FP (-25 Per rank)
3rd: +100 FP (+25 Per rank)
Final Round:
Runner up: +600 FP (+50 Per Rank)
Winners: +1000 FP (+50 Per Rank)```
We're still using CB2 FP on the wiki. Need to update it 
Updated Odilia's pic on the characters page, higher quality and transparent (from the press kit). Feel free to revert if it's not preferable.
I think it'd be helpful to add item names underneath their image in the battlepass display like so.
File:P1-01.png|Level 1<br>FLOWERY SPEECH
Although if there are already plans to update this template (i.e. replacing the default tabber) do let me know.
that was the next step. feel free to add them
great addition! tho we avoid using PNGs when characters have lighting on them and would rather use them with their background. for Odilia, we used the Bundle image (even tho it's low-res) to avoid repeating the same image throughout the Wiki
gotcha, the lighting was bugging me a bit too. I'll swap it back, and hopefully we can find a higher quality version of the bundle cover 
Will you fix it?
yes, we will fix. we now have Batch Upload so it'll be easier to do
is inputting weapon after using gadget faster than automatic cycle ?
do we really have to do everything manually now? My python script won't help anymore 🫡
that was my bad, i was editing manually and it didn't seem to work
feel free to roll it back
the BP images haven been updated with new files that have Level names accordingly
I forgot my wiki password to log in from my phone. someone else will do it.
what script?
no worries, i updated them
now all Battlepass Cosmetic images have the right name. if anyone needs the image files, i've added them to my Wiki Assets folder under Game Info in the pinned msg 
sweet, thanks
Visual editing has find and replace but not source... so I can't change every 224px to 150px all at once 
for which section? i've already made the BP Main Article images 150px
OB
on the Battlepass page
ah yes, that will make them fit with the rest
good to know about the diff. between Visual & Source in that regards
done 
I took a piece of the Battlepass code and added pictures using the loop
does our rank get reset back to bronze after this season, anybody know?
it should reset
oh i should stop grinding then, kinda not gonna use the pistol
I have never gotten 1000 thats just a hard cap
Yeah turns out it's apparently numbers from the last beta, hasn't been updated yet
Since the https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/PERMANENT page was pretty bare I updated it with tables of all the beta permanent rewards (wip).
I was also thinking of moving it from Wiki/PERMANENT to Wiki/Permanent Rewards, any objections to a change like that?
It looks cool. I also think that we need to move the page to a different title.
by the way, you can add Battlepass images to the page https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Battlepass
From there, Battlepass can be shown on any other page (Although I think you know)
Yeah I was probably going to reuse the open beta BP images from that page, although for the closed betas I don't think any images are on the wiki already
oh I misread, you mean add them to that page
yep
I can add the CB1 and CB2 images for sure, although it'd be nice to have them all sourced from the BP itself, right now I'm using the permanent rewards graphics.
I've been looking for some clean HD pics from the betas to use for that.
these are useful
#game-announcements message
@silent hawk do you still have the reward images from the open beta battlepass? We could use it.
I think one of them has been put in the wiki
The other one hasn't, but it's available in one of the links in pinned in the finals chat
Understood. Thanks
Hm true
🔥
I put both of your images on the wiki iirc
Or just the CB one
These are on the wiki, it's just the individual items that'd be nice in HD / original quality.
I wasn't around for the betas so maybe it's trivial to fetch them from somewhere I haven't looked yet.
i might’ve grabbed screenshots of those but didn’t export them individually. i can work on them soon and batch-upload
i’ll let you know 
Thanks 
is this what 2100s soldiers look like?
I think that's just what a normal soldier looks like
i thought they will be wearing a exo suit or power armour
I assume ppl here know more abt the game than some others so I inquire, does anyone know what music is used in the finals release trailer
Where
pretty sure that's in the description
Provided to YouTube by Epic
Throw It Down (The Finals Remix) · Dominique Young Unique
Throw It Down
℗ 2023 Sony Music Entertainment UK Limited
Released on: 2023-12-08
Composer, Lyricist: Dominique Clark
Producer: Benga
Composer, Lyricist: Daniel Stein
Producer: The Invisible Men
Composer, Lyricist, Programmer: Jon Shave
Composer, Lyricist: ...
Based song
Based indeed
Sir this is a wiki discussion channel
Please keep that in the relevant channels
Thank you 
Guys have people already analyzed the new trailers for other lore clues? There are some parts in which the screen glitches…
Could be interesting
guess i only reached bronze in cb2... then again i aint used any of those other guns, or any of the guns from the career level rewards from cb1, ig i might have more than i hoped
#easter-eggs people have been breaking it down in here
Let’s go thx
Fractal Disguise bundle images have been added to the respective weapons 
new Sword legendary skin also added
Gadget stats have been updated to represent patch 1.5.0
weapon damages have been updated minus DPS as need to work them out
is that me or v9s gun model is smaller on ads after patch
read the name of chat
UPDATED WEAPON STATS SHEET FOR UPDATE 1.5.0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17oI_V64feUYkiHrT5YGFE6kNGTCvfNaNiUiwrk9IITc/edit#gid=0
WHAT FOV DOES IT CHANGE TO WHEN YOU SCOPE IN TRACKING DART/SNIPER
No update to sbmmatchmaking?
Still getting placed in games with people playing their first ranked match...
ty for this! i was wondering how the flamethrower was matching up now.
these kinds of questions go to #easter-eggs
I don't want to get ahead of myself with the wiki since I only joined recently, but what's the consensus on tracking Store history?
I added a rough example to my user page https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid, it's formatted as so
- Store (page)
- Overview of what the store is and how it works.
- Store History (heading)
- Lists every iteration of the store. tabber and scroll gallery make this easy and compact.
- Store/Date (sub-page)
- A sub-page for each store iteration that lists everything available during that week.
Maybe this has already been talked about and I haven't noticed.
i don't know the answer but it sounds like an actual pain to keep track of that
i tried doing something similar for another game wiki and gave up since it seemed like i was the only one attempting formal documentation for the store
like it's fine if it's for the first appearance
but onwards is just 💀
If it was daily yeah, but imo an update once per week isn't too much to keep track of, at least I wouldn't mind doing so to see how it goes.
while the effort is appreciated, i'd refrain from focusing on this. tbh, we do not need to track the Store at this level of detail - or at all for that matter. there are far more important aspects to keep updated and we are already tracking Cosmetics per Season
Fair enough, I'm generally more into cosmetics than most but I appreciate that they aren't too important compared to the core game aspects.
that is valid! if you'd like, you can focus on updating info in the Bundles' page which is where we'll see these concurrent updates
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I'm going to guess as there isn't some text before the heading it's confused and doesn't know what to put there
just going to double check
btw, i've gotten the footage (thanks RHB) to work on these assets 
goddamn it Smashel, disproving my theory 
Nice 
i just added some header text

I ended up on a Chinese account market just to get a clean Diamond AKM pic lol
also not sure I like the embed title just being THE FINALS, have to sort that
how is CS calculated if anyone knows?
Is there any info about XP gains yet? I got 6500 for a single 10 min quick cash.
No dailies or weeklies, pure round XP.
Still 😔?
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anything from anyone?
not the correct channel for that
Anyone know the fire rate of the v9s?
according to Valkyrie's stats, 600 RPM
I'm confused ngl, creeps? monsters? are we still talking about the finals? 
idk but looking at TTK its looking like it might be a good weapon to run again over the xp54
I tested it a bit earlier managed 280 dps
I could only manage 8 rounds a second
also incase people want to add it/test it i managed 7 rps with the l11 which comes out to 343 dps
Open Beta Reward images have been updated with their respective icons to match S1 BP images 
#🥊┇fair-play yes, if it provides an unfair advantage
which ones? the ranked rewards or the weapon level rewards
CB1 and CB2 images have been added to BP page - currently with the "locked" overlay for visual consistency since i couldn't find footage of all of them without it 
the weapon level rewards
how long is glitch trap effects?
Does anyone have a photo of the plat->diamond fame points map?
I'm not sure what resolution the current icons are in, but I found some 4K CB2 footage that includes the battlepass. The quality looks pretty nice and the first page is unlocked (comparison below)
Ah ok, consistency. Here's the video though in case you want it https://youtu.be/lhxEt-sxXTo?t=729
exactly, thanks for the link tho!
Goo Gun, Healing Beam and Guardian Turret all have skin images now
I loved your video about the lore, do more
thanks. the next video will be about lore - tho there haven't been that many new developments. that's why i've been delaying it
fyi, we've been pushing updates on the Cosmetics page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cosmetics
Beautiful!
wwaaaiit the frag skin was a part of the free set?
oh btw the body paint shows all the epic stuff on rare instead
might be a glitch
this lil guy? yup
holy crap fr
i was sad because i didnt buy the frag skin with the 1k set
but i was wrong lolll
Hmm
I'll take a look
there so many fucking Cosmetics 
sorry, i'll fix
there's an oversight, i'm gonna have to check all Bundle items
this has been fixed, Wiki is just super slow today. i'll verify all Bundles because it shows the Bundle rarity in Customization instead of the Item rarity inside the Preview Bundle 
👍
Lovely!
Anyone know if the beta had lh1 skins?
Maybe
if you mean as a Permanent Reward, it didn't iirc. we have the LH1 Legacy skins in the weapon page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/LH1#LEGACY-0
Thanks
Sadge no legendary skins yet
😦
Free skins?
There was a free Christmas bundle
Gam is free
darn it
Yo anyone know how much damage the AKM does?
Thx
new skins have been updated - Healing Beam, SA1216, XP-54, Flamethrower and Dagger
all Cosmetics belonging to Bundles now have their actual Rarity instead of the Bundle's
is it new game mode?
was this in patch notes? 🥸
We're investigating 🙏
Insanity
After some testing, it seems like the +10 damage buff to the CL-40 was applied to the max splash damage rather than the direct hit bonus.
Patch 1.5.5 Weapon AIO updated
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17oI_V64feUYkiHrT5YGFE6kNGTCvfNaNiUiwrk9IITc/edit#gid=0
are the ttk for headshot or body ? how can we swap one and another ?
Body, I will be doing ahead, Body, and Optimal TTK for my 3.0 sheet
Is there any reason this is unbreakable?
No way dude, did they already fix that?? Too bad I’m away from home now
ok this took a massive effort, but we finally have all the images for the current Style, Expressions, Pets, Watches and Bundles. you can find them in the Cosmetics page
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cosmetics
we'll be updating Sounds and Gesture later on + Specialization Rewards
amazing stuff, thank you!
The Christmas Skin is missing 
And the Cash Crow and CB Watch need to be swapped 
there’s always something 

sir this is the wiki discussion channel
Wrong channel bro
👆
I want to know more about the sponsors like ozpuze
spear! i love your videos
ty for watching 
Smashel has added the expression sounds to https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cosmetics#Sounds, we've also added a Sound template so it's just a clickable audio icon 
who
some random person
oh snap. the finals has a REAL wiki. thank god its not the fandom one, which is unfortunately being pushed by google results.
its always fandom, then reddit, then videos, and THEN the real wiki. kinda annoying
it’s hard to battle against their SEO, so we just focus on building the best platform we can 
It's unfortunate. We've got pretty good SEO for just "THE FINALS Wiki" but looking up gadgets will usually just show the Fandom one.
where can we find how long it takes to steal cashouts and cashout timers?
50 bucks they make a duck skin tihs upcoming patch.
-level
dose it serve flying beer?
you can request your game to be taken off of fandom iirc. and definitely should. fandom is atrociously awful
Its also completely empty in comparison
no it’s filled. just with ads
I have a suggestion for the wiki if its worth implaimenting.
In the team fortress 2 wiki and some others, there are separate wiki sections dedicated to teaching players about community made tactics and couterplay for the weapon.
This could allow not only for more involvement for the wiki but allow for the user to not only discover the weapon but also learn how to use it more effectively as well.
Link example: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Basic_Scout_strategy#Force-A-Nature_.2B_reskins
I also think listing every balance change done to a weapon will allow be nice to add.
Wait, is that the one we closed down with a massive notice telling people not to update it?
this is definitely something cool to have, i know other people have asked similar things. i think it's a matter of someone starting it and then we just continue to contribute 
Its definitely something to give the wiki more attention
agreed. we're almost 2 months in since release, so i think there's plenty of room for people to drop their strategies for the whole Loadout category
I've updated the latest social video as I totally didn't forget to do it last week
I can start a page for this after I get off work today
Sounds like a fun idea
Invite people to help fill out this too! I'll join in tomorrow morning I gotta sleep
everyone is welcome to fill in pages and help out 
maybe we could start Threads for pages? 
that would be cool
Hi everyone! Long time no see in here. Might start contributing more nowadays, edit some wording and pages
also happy you guys are still using my banner ❤️ haha
just noticed @lapis kindle changed it to the S1 hero image! it's an awesome fit!
I can see that swapping around every big update haha
if it ain't broken, why fix it 
just waiting for iseul-t season to roll around so we can pop this baby out <3
(or something better)
It'll depend on what the back lighting on that seasons character is
We stuck with the red background since Odelia has red back lighting
exactement, that's why I said iseul-t season, so we can use that character 🤣
CB2 might have been it
They were labelled as a Season 0 sponsor
Underdone though, if that is the case
Just realised it's not the same wiki - I guess someone felt they needed more than one
you'd think they would bring those cosmetics back though
they are bound to return in some capacity, probably with a full battlepass worth of items 👀
Welcome to THE FINALS wiki did you mean THE FINALS Fandom or THE FINALS WIKI Fandom or THE FINALS COMMUNITY WIKI
Hey what year is in the finals? If there information about it....
THE FINALS takes place about 75 years in the future, roughly around the year 2100.
THE FINALS takes place about 75 years in the future, roughly around the year 2100. It is the greatest virtual game show on the planet, with a large, global fan base, and considered a window to a bigger world outside of the real one - known as the Meatspace. But most people spend their time in the Virtual World. Contestants join through VR-techno...
Thks this gonna help me alot on what im doing
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Strategy putting this here for reference
AKM Diamond skin has been added, looks like we completely forgot about it 
Nice, I mentioned it a while back before I could see this channel lol. Ty!!
This page contains a list of different strategies for combat in the arena. Arena strategies, general gameplay strategies, and gamemode strategies are listed in their respective pages.
It can't be that good of a skin if we forgot about it
I'll keep telling myself this so I feel better about missing the beta 🥲
It looks like the search function does not ignore case on the query.
It seems to ignore case on the first char only. But not subsequent chars. so "ga" works for Gas Mine, but not "gas m".
hmm, is there something we can do about this @heavy gale?
probably needs an extension for a better search functionality, I'll try and get one sorted
Are we going to do something about the fandom page? It still dominates the search results
Not much we can do about it sadly
Sabotage it
Fill it with all the wrong information 😈
Guys can we wall jump????
I read the patch notes and it said something about a fix on fail wall bounce
pretty sure that's just mantling
New Twitch drops, one looks like headgear. I take it we won't use the render from Twitch's CDN since it has no rarity indicator? If not, we have til Feb 7th to claim them and get a good screenshot in-game.
i’ll use the in-game icons for consistency
In a perfect world we could use every icon at source quality and handle rarity indicators with css
but I know datamining is discouraged
The "Take the call" emote from the new Draco Star bundle has the following voice lines (in case anyone looks this up)
(SCOTTY) Hi! I'm calling on behalf of Sofia. Would you like to endorse Pro Juice? [referring to sponsor OSPUZE]
(JUNE) Hi, I'm calling on behalf of Mackenzie. Would you be interested in endorsing VOLPE?

magnificent, thanks for sharing!
Wait really? There wasn't any news about them

i believe this is all the new career rewards
There are 10 new lvls, ofc not all
right unless there is only 8 rewards im not sure of the last 2 that i missed
No bro there are 10 rewards look more carefully
I think it's just missing the glasses and one of the shoes :)
oo snap there is a career progression screen?
so there is 10
sorry didnt notice that
they're all just recolors, but it's nice that they are adding new levels
I’m so happy that they added black bandana
added new contracts https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Contracts
added new bundles (need images) https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Bundles
i'm working on images now
^ Bundle images have been added. i'll be adding the new Weapon and Style cosmetics soon
where did you get this photo?
Playstation Exclusive Bundle, available on your Steam acct via cross-progression
also, all new skins for Weapons and Specializations have been added
Wait, so we'd have to own a PS5 and rank up just to get it on PC? I only play PC and never intend to buy another console, so looks like I'm not getting that lmao
Just wait till they drop a PC exclusive
Why they dont add it for pc users aswell man
Closed beta 1 and closed beta 2 cosmetics are our PC exclusives 
We'll get more trust
cross-progression means your current progress is reflected on all accounts as long as you have all of them linked to your Embark ID. no need to rank up
Noo why this is exclusive 
I like the bandana and the jacket
I have all of these if you need in-game images?
If it's no bother to you it would be handy, the icons that is, best I can get is 1080p
Wiki be looking great, everyone doing amazing 
Thanks! I've been doing a lot of research and am working on more pages for the game elements 
I bet not many ppl knew about this goo mechanic 🤔
i saw the images when you uploaded them! really awesome info 
Thanks! do you have a screenshot of their covers too? like these with the rarity color too
that's where low resolution really screws things up
thanks 
@lapis kindle Do you know why we have these nice maps of Seoul and Monaco but not Skyway Stadium and Las Vegas?
These two were for uh, meet the maker I believe?
oh? do you know where the images were posted, as I can only find the 'podcast' audio
They're in an archived channel but we did tweet about it https://twitter.com/reachthefinals/status/1669000104747970562
We're about to host the 1st episode of MEET THE MAKERS on Discord: a daily show during beta where we dive into different areas of THE FINALS. Today we're talking to level designer Midas and environment artist Joakim about locations, maps, and level design! https://t.co/BfMLKiOkDE
These bird's eye maps were probably made using Unreal, now I'm wondering if Embark has the other two lying around...
oh it was on Discord? I thought they were just for Spotify
It was originally on a discord stage channel.
Do you think there's anyone at Embark from who we could get a top-down orthographic render/screenshot of the maps? Just a raw image, no need for them to be like the Meet the Makers images.
Reason I ask is because I'm interested in working on an interactive map for the wiki. Players could look up information such as area names, cashout spawn locations, zipwire/launch pad locations, etc. This kind of information is very hard to convey with just text. I know it would take a bit of work to make these screenshots but I think it would be super helpful to players, theorycrafters and so on.
I can definitely ask 👀

what Justice said
What does the numbers mean?
Ah yes I guess that makes sense idk why I was thinking we'd have to rank up again but still, that doesn't really answer my question. Still would have to buy a PS5 or find someone who owns one just to get this "exclusive skin" eh just not worth it. 😛 Maybe it's an incentive for console players to come hop on idk. I'll wait for a PC exclusive maybe one day... 😉 No biggie I just won't ever be purchasing a console again in my lifetime if I can help it. PS4 hopefully was the last one, I just hate having to also purchase PS Plus, all that bs. PC so much easier in general frfr. Now besides Sony's exclusives, which are kinda fire. Still waiting on TLOU part 2 for pc maybe later this year??? 😃 Even tho I have played it already on PS4, still would be great on PC.
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Goo#Placement
Basically the number of goo pieces that will be broken if you break this one first
What about goo barrels that are thrown at walls?
Same as the goo grenade, just add 4 more pieces. So the top goo that is attached to the wall is holding all 12 pieces
Mhm ok, thanks!
@pearl fern do you have any info about what orientation the goos spawns in? Like sometimes it creates a nice wall but sometimes makes a random pillar that's 1 goo wide
yeah I’ll write a page about it later but basically the 2 goo pillar happens when you throw a nade/barrel at a ceiling or sloped ceiling so just avoid that
phenomenal, lmk if you need help with other assets 
Is June a robot? Like based on the lore? In the lore video she sounds…digital, unlike Scotty
i mean they're both ai voices
yeah but june sounds actually like ai compared to scotty
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, she sounds like a robot
Guys, WIKI chat
ikr
Where else do we discuss this
not here that's for sure
#⚡┇the-finals-chat ? LOL
read the room, does it look like you discuss it here?
Fine then goodbye 😤
I've seen a lot of people confused about Twitch Drops, so I'm wondering if a page could help, specifically:
- Overview of drops, how they work.
- Step by step instructions on how to earn drops.
- List of previous and ongoing drop campaigns and items.
I put together a rough draft on my user page https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid. Would a resource like this fit on the Wiki atm?
i mean is this really necessary when this info is already on twitch
and is already kinda explained when the drop is announced in server
it's always nice to see the past twitch drops imo
ok i kinda didn't read the 3rd bullet point
I'd say it fits
are we supposed to get them on the 8th of february?
no, you get them whenever you complete the watch hours required for each one. you have until the 8th to get them
i didnt get any of them ingame
sorry i am dumb didnt link my twitch account
i got 10 rewards
OK, I'll fix the missing info and probably make it a page. It'd be an SEO advantage too anyways.
i'm working on uploading all of the tutorial videos so we can have them on their respective pages
all done
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Strategy
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Build:Cloaked_Assassin also added this, not finished yet
your page made me realize most of the weapon and gadget icons are still their beta versions
ah, we'll get them updated
i’ll update the icons soon
https://youtu.be/Y6PxS8spLOc?feature=shared&t=286
I want to add another note to this, this guy threw a goo grenade at the wall but it only made a pillar. but this is because the top piece of goo was trying to expand outwards, but the roof was blocking the necessary space for it to spawn, so it just terminated there.
it's also worth noting that the goo on the wall expands downwards, so when aiming, make sure there is a line outward from that point where there is space, and then some space below it to spawn the 2nd layer.
so the spawning starts at the top corner?
yip (in case of nades that hit a wall)
good to know
this is a thing btw https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/File:Cashout_blueprint.png
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need to work out the build heights using the cashout 
That seems so small but it’s not
nice! I will use this one for the cashout station page instead of the screenshot i cut out from the game
it's not as if we didn't already have other ways of finding that out
Where'd you get the file from btw?
it was shared by Rob in #1075060148004991067
Hey if i have auto-region on and the other have a specific region, it automaticly go to the guy region or we can have different region and be in the same server??
This channel is for talking about the wiki 
I saw some1 send an Exel table of all the data about weapons (damage, dps, reload time, etc, etc)
I cant find it anymore
Can some1 re-send it?
Ty
There’s also something a bit.. strange.. going on w̸̝͗h̴͉́ë̵́̓n̴̲̈́ ̸͎̈l̶͍͗a̴͊unching the game, keep your eyes open!
See you in the Arena, Contestants! 
~Oscar
Please someone tell me what this "strange" thing going on happened? I haven't noticed anything. From #game-announcements
cashout's only 50kg?
New cinematic, writing on the wall intro
That's not a cash out, it's just one of the random yellow boxes in monaco
ohhhhh
wait if we know which box that is theoretically we could measure each contestants height right?
uff that would be funny always wonderd what their actual hight is since the light looks so small in comparison. But thats probably because the heavy is really big
after doing some inaccurate measurements,
a rough estimate is that light is 1m60, medium is 1m85, heavy is 2m10
does the cap on the medium class increase their height or is it the same?
it's the same, but either way it doesn't really matter. the perspective and eye height difference between classes makes it impossible to measure accurately this way
righto, this is good info, cheers
Could we get a main template? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Main
Aye, you can just chuck it in if you want
fixed the variable btw, do you want me to add styling to it ?
Thanks, and yeah maybe a slightly darker box with cursive or something
I'll get it sorted 
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Template:Main How's this?
you get a max of 3 pages, you can do {{Main|page name}} or {{Main|page name|page name|page name}}
need to make actual documentation for it but that'll come later
Wiki addition: Players of all builds have an unknown tech where they can hold [interact] on a friendly statue to revive a teammate.
Thanks a lot. It looks great!
Huuuh, new cinematic, writing on the wall intro? I didn't get to see it possible I launched my game and mistakenly alt-tabbed while It loaded as well. Smh lol... Is there a youtube vid of it or somethin?
just overwrite it, I don't think it's used for anything on our side
(until it's one of those files that needs to stay in place to make mediawiki work
)
Ok I get it I seeeeee, they should've been more specific there's lots of walls in this game 😭
how do i help add wiki
All CEO'S have rock/stone as last name
correct. for those wondering
OSPUZE | Petronelle - "petra", rock in Latin
ISEUL-T | Beom-seok - "pattern of a rock" in Korean
VOLPE | Lapis - stone in Latin
HOLTOW | Rutile - natural form of titanium dioxide
👀
Is ee leaking again
⛏️
Many objects don't have official names. What do you guys is the appropriate name for the arena carriable that allows you to revive contestants? Revive Trophy? Contestant Statue? etc.
i think i've seen it referred as statue but whichever sounds good. not particularly sure what the playerbase calls it - we could always change it
The only official source I know is this image, which uses 'Statues' in the filename #official-art message
THE_FINALS_Wallpaper_Statues_001.jpg
Thanks, I think I've never seen the one with the puffer jacket or samurai outfit?
i think all builds are just using the one in the middle
I think so too, it's early concept art so I suppose things changed. Would be cool if one day statues reflect your appearance.
cb 1 patch note
Just checking, are there plans to improve the discoverability or navigation of cosmetics pages? (here I go again)
atm it's Loadout -> Cosmetics, with Bundles linked as a related item.
I feel an improvement navigation path could work as follows
- Loadout
- Cosmetics (nav page)
- All Cosmetics
- Bundles
- BattlePass
- Career Rewards
- Any others (e.g. Twitch Drops)
Just putting the thought out there!
yes, that's why this Cosmetics section exists. we just haven't update it 
Gotcha, thanks 
Personally I think it may be preferable if categories are missing or grayed out if they have no items so you don’t have to spend a click opening (or in this case, getting out of) an empty category
Oh, i just realized these are tabbers that are hardcoded on each page. That explains why this is inconsistent.
yes, what i did instead was to just remove the Legendary category in Cosmetics if they didn’t have items. maybe @heavy gale can look into it
i just saw your template and that's basically what we had planned. great work 
I can have a look at it but it'll probably require JS if we want to hide tabs without manually having to delete the tabs due to the fact the content and tabber selection is different elements and are not linked in any way apart from an id like "LEGENDARY-0", it's possible to do it in CSS4 but that's not a production thing at the moment as far as I'm aware
I had a related idea but I don't have enough mediawiki knowledge to know how feasible it is. The idea would be to have a central patch notes registry, where each patch note entry is tagged with the relevant page(s). E.g. "CL-40: Damage 100 -> 110" is tagged with CL-40. Then the template on CL-40's page would have this patch note show up because it has the appropriate tag. It would remove the work of needing to update and maintain the patch notes on every relevant page and would make it much easier to enforce consistency rules and such. However I don't know if it's possible and whether the benefits outweigh the implementation time.
This kind of system once set up could also be translated to other things like cosmetics, where items would be tagged with their category, their rarity and any sets they're a part of such as bundles, and then the cosmetics tabbers would autogenerate their contents. You could specify that a tabber should show all the cosmetics from the "Lost Marbles" set or all skins for the "Sledgehammer" instead of needing to repeatedly enter the same information on each page.
@lapis kindle I wanted to ask you about something completely different: I saw you edited some casing on the pages i uploaded, so i want to make sure i understand the logic of which links should be in proper case and which links should be lowercase. For example all weapon names and gadget names i do in proper case. But you left 'coins' as lower case but made 'Cash Box' into proper case. When is an arena object proper case?
where was that?
no worries, still valid. we need to have consistency in naming conventions
@static light these were your edits
Does the APS shoot down Mines (frisbees)?
Yes, while they are thrown, not if they were already attached
Weird, I swear I threw a gas mine underneath of one once and it landed without getting zapped, but it was laggy during that time.
I could also swear I've seen them zap down my frisbees before, but that one time has since confused me
it's possible that the gas mine's hitbox snapped to the ceiling before being in the projectile kill radius of the APS turret. and that the APS turret has a tick rate/order where it would check for projectiles after the gas mine did its snapping logic
Possibly, knew Wiki Chat had my back for obscure mechanics, thanks!
I think it's not really needed to capitalize cash box and cashout station; I would compare things like "Dagger" and "Goo Grenade" as 'names' that need capitalizing, whereas a cashout station i would compare to a word like "government body" where it may be significant but doesn't need to be capitalized when used in a sentence.
I think capitalizing these things when it isn't necessary can hurt readability, since capitals make you stop reading for a second.
We can see what @static light thinks about it
I like this idea, if I'm understanding correctly each item would be stored somewhere in a way like so?
{
"type" : "weapon_skin",
"name" : "GOLD DUST",
"supported_items" : ["akm", "cl-40", "sword"],
"bundle" : "GOLD DUST SET",
"source" : "store",
"price" : 1600
}
Ignore that it's Json, I'm not sure how MediaWiki would handle it.
Well the idea is definitely there, but this isn't a very useful implementation I think, I would separate each item separately because each item also has unique information, most notably the PNG file location for the item. Instead of the items being stored as part of a bundle, the items should be-- well, an item-- and they would have a list of sets this item is included in. In this case it would look a bit more like:
{
"name" : "GOLD DUST",
"icon" : "M32GL_Gold-Dust.png",
"equipment" : "MGL32",
"rarity" : "legendary",
"sets" : ["bundle_gold_dust"],
"source" : "store",
"note" : null
"price" : 1600
}
Another option is to have another database of bundles, which have a list of items that are included in them. But either way, items would need their own entry in their own collection, if only because it would be an orderly way to store all the image file locations in one place.
Oh for sure, the example I gave is also for an individual item, I just put it together quickly so missed out icons and rarities etc.
if by item you mean a weapon, in your example it's three items in one go, which means it would be impossible to add item-specific info like icons. That was the only thing that needed changing though and I guess if you meant to do it this way then we are on the same page
ah I'm getting you now, I was treating the "Gold Dust" skin as a single item that supported multiple weapons, instead of each instance of it individually. I agree it'd be better to do the latter.
well I'm curious to hear what luke thinks* of it all.
i, for one, think we should definitely look for a way to implement it 
i love javascript
Heads up, Ranked Rewards doesn't actually link anywhere yet, I only had it in my template as an example.
I was thinking, instead of a whole new page, it could link to a "Rewards" sub-section under Ranked Tournament on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cashout?
i think that works. we'll also have them under a section in Style
i haven't worked on the images but feel free to
I wanted to stay consistent with the capitalization in the Patchnotes
see https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Update:CB1_Balance_Patch_1 "Cash Box"
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Update:CB1:_PATCH_3 "Cash Box"
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Update:CB1:_PATCH_4 "Cashout Station"
But i dont think the patch notes are a good indicator, they are often inconsistent themselves.
@static light
well it seems like it doesnt really matter that much to Embark, so we just just choose one style to use for the wiki
in that case I would prefer to go lowercase, as these words are often used in the middle of a sentence to explain a mechanic, and making them capitalized just makes it a bit harder to read.
as in go lowercase for all arena objects basically
I want to add this logic is also based on how I see Wikipedia and other game wikis do it, and they probably spent a lot more time making those decisions.
sounds good, the "find and replace" function should make it easy to change everything
are you the same spear that does the finals lore videos?
because if so, i love your content and im hyped for the next video
i am, thanks!
Something that could be useful to add is the canisters. I looked around to see if it was already there but was unable to find them.
Odilia:
Odile of Alsace AKA Saint Odilia is the patron saint of the blind and partially sighted. As a contestant she sports fairly distinct eye makeup and in the release trailer she was the contestant seen throwing the Vanishing Bomb.
What are these from?
Reskin of relaxed jeans or whatever the name is
Appeared in my inventory this morning
Interesting idea, it is possible to implement as you can have a page dedicated to json like for example Module:Weapons/data.json and then you can use scribunto lua to create a module which parses through the json and pulls fields required. It would take a while to implement though as while I may have used LUA in the past, that is a distant memory 
There is probably easier methods to doing it that doesn't require scribunto and json but it's probably one the cleaner ways as long as people can not fuck up the syntax of said json file. I'll have to do some research to see what is possible and if it's achievable + if lua json reading is fast and doesn't slow down a page massively.
It's great that you're gonna look into it. I have a suggestion in case it has a performance impact: you could see if it's possible to cache the contents in the template. For example, on load, it only checks if it's up to date, if not it does the actual query where the new template contents are cached on the page. Other example: when changing the contents of the Weapons/data.json or whatever, run a manual script that updates every page using that template.
New patch
The wiki will not load for me right now. The slowness really bothers me 
It seems to chug wayyyy too often
We'll look into it
Wiki is back up. will be updating the new weapon skins and bundle images
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Arena_Carriables
I used the template twice on this page, but there seems to be an odd gap between the box and the following text. It could be something I did wrong though
fixed it
there was a random space in my template that caused a line break for some reason

reminds me that I should start doing the documentation for that template tomorrow

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cashout_Station
Finally made the cashout station page! a question people often ask is e.g. "how long does a cashout take", this page has all the answers.
is there a vault #7 in tourney mode? or is 6 the highest possible
@tardy bluff you asked this question in #⚡┇the-finals-chat message a long time ago but I've been doing enough research for the wiki to have the answer to your question.
In quick play / tournament finals it is obviously not possible to reach vault indices past #4 and #3 respectively. So we will focus on tournament knockout rounds.
• A tournament round lasts 9 minutes (plus up to 1 minute of overtime).
• A cashout normally takes 2 minutes and 10 seconds in tournament rounds.
• The initial vault is already ready to open, but subsequent vaults take 15 seconds of windup time.
• Vaults take 20 seconds to open.
This means that, in a hypothetical scenario where contestants are able to teleport between locations, and teams are working together to simultaneously open vault #1+#2 etc, it would take exactly 8 minutes to complete the cashout of vault #6.
In this case, a vault #7 might appear if it is actually programmed to be possible. I don't think so though. Keep in mind there is no art asset for a " Vault 7" indicator, so it would have to loop back to "Vault 1" like in Bank-It.
The requirement for a 7th vault to appear would be that the 6th cashout is completed before 9 minutes have passed in the game.
But this is practically impossible. If you reached each vault within 15 seconds (the windup time), then you would have 20 seconds to transport each cash box to the cashout station.
If someone accomplished this timing, I'm gonna guess that they would be disappointed as Embark probably made it so after the 6th vault they simply don't spawn. The few seconds left in the game would simply run out with no new vaults appearing.
Also, I'm pretty sure that Embark made cashouts 10 seconds longer in tournament mode to prevent this scenario.
Relevant pages:
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Vault
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Cashout_Station
you been cooking, amazing work as always
ive already solved this with my boy @winged pollen
oh well. did you accomplish the timing?
yep, we got the 7th vault
let me see if i can find the vid we solved it a couple weeks ago
here its the first part of the vid, honestly my boy has been doing tons of work finding cool things so if u havent watched his vids def do
I didn't know about the channel, that's really cool!
yeah were both content creators, i do more sweaty stuff he does more fun myth busting stuff
i also have a spreadsheet about all the tech, tricks, gadget and weapon info etc i use so im def into the nerdy stuff like numbers and strats etc and hes more like how can we break this game 🤣
your "field research" is going to be very helpful for the wiki 
ill pm u my spreadsheet its not public because its collected from other sources and im noty tryna plagarize its more just for me and my pals to discuss stuff
feel free to use the info but dont credit me
Alright
What is this ?
a discord
Obviously LOL
this channel?
Yea
channel for discussing and organizing Wiki stuff
yeah, the link is on the channel header
Do we have power to put stuff in the finals official wiki or something
it's not officially endorsed
it's made by volunteers, so yes you can edit and add pages
I mean it's not offically endorsed but I run it and Embark helps with it occasionally 
Embark pays for the server so yeah
oh! OK.
Speaking of which... 👀 how about the top down screenshot we were talking about 
uhhh
I think I asked for it 
Let me double check
we've asked for map overviews for a while 
Embark just be busy as hell at the moment, we'll hopefully get them in due time
Anyone know what the alien event actually does?
UFOs appear in the map, they shoot lasers that cause dmg and break structures and they activate a gravity lift with a green light that causes everything inside that radius to levitate for a period of time
a wiki for the finals?
Where would I find images of cosmetics that were in the beta but not yet in release?
For a video
there is a legacy tab in all the weapon pages that had beta weapon skins
Also (srry for all the questions) anywhere I could find the inspect of any skins like the baseball bat or Holtow fine print?
Do the characters have canonical heights?
I saw that one person estimated the Medium to be basically 2m tall using the AKM as a ruler.
@static gull says the map overviews is on their radar:
#easter-eggs message
Pinging for a cheeky check-in though 
If a medium is 2m tall I am literally terrified of Heavy
XP is a metric by which a contestant's experience in the arena is tracked. XP provides progression in the Battlepass and Career Progression tracks.
Just give them some credits

This channel is all about finals inspects and weapons
https://youtube.com/@FINALey?si=MjbT7Pix0NAhx04p
yeah the hosting seems to be having occasional problems
Thanks
I must've read this a dozen times before I realized how it was signed 
Where is that again 
footer
How did it end up in the footer
It was in the intro for the page 
It was using the secret text thing we made
@lone monolith can we claim it with multiple accounts?
Would anybody object to moving some of the Rank/League information out of the Cashout page and into a new Leagues page? It's kinda squished down there and I think a dedicated article would help.
The idea being that Cashout continues to detail the ranked tournament mode, while Leagues has more freedom to cover each league, sub-league, FP requirements, rewards, and leaderboards.
I feel it'd also improve discoverability, since the Cashout page isn't an immediately obvious place to go for this info.
Does the Tama View charm react to what is happening in game or no?
sounds good imo
it shows when you're shooting, when you killed an enemy and when you're on fire.....probably shows some other stuff too
Oh awesome. Mind if I use this footage for a video?
go ahead
New page made https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Leagues
There's still some info I'm struggling to confirm, so if anybody's able to fill in the gaps that would be great, I'll keep researching when I can.
For admins: The Ranked Rewards option on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Loadout can now link to Leagues#Rewards
Relinked it 
it’s looking great! my only suggestion would be for the reward images to be the 1st column instead of the last one – just helps quick visibility on the cosmetics 
Done 
i replaced/added icons for the Rewards so they all look visually consistent. i'll add the Nama Tama in a bit, it's the only one missing
Thanks! I've been wanting to use actual icons for beta rewards but I'm not in possession of any 😅
done 
Can I request an idea?
Make a page of people’s drip from the #🔥┇drip-check so some people can get some ideas
there’s already a subreddit for that r/TheFinalsRunway
Oh I don’t follow Reddit 😂
for the league page regarding the FP amount, do we want the total FP overall per division/subdivision or the FP required from 0 for each division/subdivision like it currently is in the league page?
like this
whereas my total FP overall is actually 2635
FP from 0 makes more sense to me
I've been experimenting with this a bit https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:Raid. I agree that it's probably best to display it the same way as the game does.
i like the bottom one better
Jeez that skin is beautiful
Fax
How does the xp work on weapons and equipments ?
for example the FCAR , do i have to kill / do damage / or just shoot the weapon to gain XP ?
That's a mystery
contracts and bundles have been updated
and images have been added
what gloves is blud using that the watch is compatible with?!
@celest citrus "better" quality image
do we have any archive that shows all the legendary items animations?
we do not, but it is in the pipeline
It’s just the black arm tatoo
With the finger gloves from the BP looks like
still so curious
Rolex in game
does any one know what is the max cashout someone had in a round of a tournament because matchmaking was glitched yesterday and me and my teammates got 112000
can you explain what you mean by "glitched" ?
ill send some vids later
Anyone knows if the finals has an API?
Doesn't have one for the public as far as I'm aware
Oh, that’s sad, could be funny for create stats dashboards or create some bots for friends
I have seen $8x,xxx before
Am I looking at this wrong or is the watch face placed on the wrong side of the wrist
Do you mean the max amount of cash at the end of the game?
10*2 + 15*2 + 22*2 from all 6 cash boxes = 94k
opening all 6 vaults = 6k
Then $200 for each kill your team gets
($400 if the death match event is active)
because there was 8 teams but 2 teams that were actually filled we wiped those guys a lot
so i assume thats how we got the 12
modes and events have been fun
This channel is for discussing the Wiki itself
I had 90K before
I think it could work if we nail the styling. I've got all the FP figures besides Silver now too.
Does anyone have gameplay of fame in spades skin?
How to obtain: 800 Multibucks.
A short, straight to the point skin spotlight featuring the Fame in Spades skin for the Throwing Knives.
Skin requested in the comments section of my previous video.
Thanks!!
are those from the store?
Yes
I assume silver 3 is 750
how did I miss that... 
ty :)
Ngl, cards are still better because of the snapping animation.
yessss
I've just noticed, that the 4th WR is missing in the wiki: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/In-Game_Easter_Eggs#White_Rabbits_(WR)
The day before Closed Beta 1 went live, content creators were able to post footage from an event. Creators mentioned the view from the top of the crane in Seoul, and Rob commented “you can see a WR from there.... ._.” and “just something for you to follow..!”.
These were the first clues that there was something to find in the Closed Beta playte...
and that it is supposed to spell S Lies
#1201288968562552863 message here the S Lies confirmation
#1197268508623515849 message here the moment it was found
Yeah I haven't updated it 
If you wanna update it feel free 
still trying to get a good pic of it, it's in a really awkward spot
Then you are at least better than me cause I wasn't even able to find the yellow stairs...
I've just checked the Mascots page. Who is the big flamingo?
i think there's a big flamingo balloon hanging above the map?
Ah yeah you're right. Didn't know he was also a mascot.
I think this was me. I wrote it in the middle of september and was trying to remember any mascots that actually appeared in game. 
We can probably update that soon since Nama and Moolah are probably more important than the Flamingo that is in every trailer for some reason

Flamingo's matter
i fixed it
need to work on a breakdown for that lore video intro from last month too
added
Hi
new Weapon skins have been added respectively
Hey Spear, do you have a video of the new lasso emote?
not currently but it looks cool from what i saw in the bundle preview
here is a preview, timestamped https://youtu.be/9ln3suVtzTY?si=2yOfFXUziM70XUQC&t=52
That emote would be cancelled in 1800
Made a to-do list page in case anyone wants something to work on, or needs to add something to be done
The purpose of this page is to keep track of actions that need to be taken by the wiki community. Any community member may add new items, or close out existing items if they have been completed.
Hi, can we get a better navigation section for the wiki accessible from any page? because I am unable to find one right now if there is one and it's really hard to navigate sometimes and see what content is there
When you press the 3 lines on the left a menu opens up with the most important pages. Is this what you are looking for? On mobile it's at the bottom when you scroll up.
oh wow there it is, it's usually on the top right of most wikis so I couldn't locate it, especially on mobile, totally my bad
I'm not seeing it unless it's the top left portion
I think that's just pareidolia.(Seeing faces/patterns where there aren't faces/patterns) It's a human condition to recognize faces in everything
Nah there is a clearly visible face in the top left corner
I think its CNS joking around
I like your videos
It's master oogway from kung fu panda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is a channel for stuff like this #easter-eggs
you are right
can someone add to the stun gun article that it's based on the Taser 7?
it's a bit different from its trade dress (probes are aligned rather than skewed apart, rounded trigger) but if the akm can be an akm with its godforsaken heatsink gap then this is a taser
sounds like you know more about it than me. it's a community wiki so feel free to add stuff yourself if you feel like it
i would, but any mediawiki article i touch has its formatting broken somehow for completely random unrelated issues
i genuinely do not fathom how it happens honestly since i usually edit from raw blame

If it breaks, we can always fix it or revert the change
damn commons doesn't have a pic




