easter-eggs

[white patrol]

MultiCo.Early.Talent.Program I believe

[misty halo]

i see but what is that and why did they stop it al together?

[white patrol]

that's the fun part

I don't know

[misty halo]

my guess was its somthing from the START of the finals, maybe something to get they started on becoming more popularized into making eveyone think ANYONE can be a star and had to shut it down due the MASS requests to be part of this program and seeing this they marketed it so much to desensitize poeple to where we are now in the story and how everyone feels about the "meat space"

this is a MASS stretch tho lmao and im just pulling shit out my ass to theorize, somehting that makes sense to WHY muli co had this program

[dull marsh]

But it's WRONG 😭😭😭

[surreal sinew]

yeah i sent that before i read that it was wrong

[misty halo]

WAAIIIITTTT HOLD UP URSA AND ODILA WAS ONCE BEST FRIENDS BEFORE URSA BECAME CONSUMED BY THE METP? ALL THE DESCRIPTIONS LEAD YOU INTO THINKING HE WAS TURNED INTO THE PERFECT A I AND LOSING ALL SENSE OF HUMANITY AFTER CONSUMING SO MUCH OSEPUZ, THE LAST THINGS ODILIA SAYS TO URSA GIVEN TO HIM IN A SECRET NOTE BEFORE HIS GRAND MAJOR AND STATS "Usra, dont become what they want. -O" WHAT IF IT WAS SHUT DOWN DUE TO UNTOLD HORRORS OF WHAT THEY DID TO THOSE IN THE METP TO BECOME PERFECT, TO THE POINT THEY REMOVED ANY SENSE OF BEING HUMAN FROM SOMEONE AND MADE THEY A COMPLETE CONTROLED ORGANIC A I

[surreal sinew]

WHY ARE WE YELLING

[misty halo]

my caps lock was stuck im so sorry

but like am i insane for thinking this>?

[surreal sinew]

arent we all but nah this is a decent idea ngl

[misty halo]

i feel like im tugging my hair after looking at this casue i went back to season 1 BP to read all of odilias stuff but nothing mentions ursa only a small thing about the meat space and how she has the same gloves in both realities

[snow walrus]

they are not 1:1 right?

[gloomy anvil]

I think the in-game bust is this one from the Museum of the Academy of Fine Arts in Kraków
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/bust-of-jan-matejko-by-jan-tombinski-d6203c12328743ee9b75ec32843fb089
https://muzea.malopolska.pl/en/objects-list/2260

[crisp eagle]

Since we were given the S5 KeyArt as part of L3, I’m wondering if there are any CNS KeyArts we might need as well. Now that Rob has switched his “sponsor” to CNS

Although, he could just be switching to CNS since he always reps them. Could be unrelated to the hunt, and just the one he always wants to have now that we’ve found the clues in Dissun art that he wanted us to find.

[fresh quiver]

well. he used Dissun and CNS in the same sentence. So might be

[gloomy anvil]

I really am confused about the "next CNS phase" stuff lol

but as Rob said "I will have to refresh that a bit since I planned that two years ago" I don't think we actually have the relevant CNS content/images yet

DISSUN should still be our focus currently

[surreal sinew]

yeah thats what i belive he means to

but ofc raid would say that since hes clearly robs alt trying to nudge us in the right way

[crisp eagle]

I think I missed that one too. I need to go back and read through those from The Revival

[snow walrus]

USS Skate was the first submarine to surface at the North Pole, on 17 March 1959.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skate-class_submarine

[past karma]

heh

[odd sequoia]

Why is it lit up like that?

[past karma]

cashbox light!

[odd sequoia]

Understandable lol

[snow walrus]

The gold they search for in the film is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_gold

[dull marsh]

always has been!

[snow walrus]

Confederate authorities quickly removed millions of dollars of gold to a "safer" location – the city of Columbus, Georgia

probably a coincidence but Columbus is 123rd city in US by population (2020)

[dull marsh]

bit wonky tho

can always change

[snow walrus]

Ye

I would focus confederate gold part instead

[dusk siren]

I have no idea how this would help, but the fact that Clint Eastwood's character is the "Man With No Name" could be relevant at some point ('missing', ∅)?

[snow walrus]

maybe but that character most likely has more significant meaning

Nordic place names use that character I've noticed today

[dusk siren]

Oh, for sure, I just mean the idea of a person with a "missing name"... I was using that symbol as the "empty set" in that case.
I thought I'd mention that just because I was unaware that Rob had hinted at the movie just recently until I saw @dull marsh 's post.
As far as I could see from a search, no one had mentioned that character's name before (which is pretty famous)
I really do like the "confederate gold" idea...

[dull marsh]

I don't know if he really hinted at it or not, could be unrelated, especially as the song was affiliated with fee-fi-fo-fum 🤔

[dusk siren]

Ah... thx for the full context... "Man with No Name" is also sometimes thought more generically as "Mystery Man"... possibly underscoring the dummy hidden in the wall?

[snow walrus]

If the Eastwood character is the primary connection, then R.357 may have a mechanic to trigger something in the map

[gloomy anvil]

If we're thinking of the same song, Rob did add "(not related to anything haha)" to that message

[dull marsh]

he has said that many times with many things that weirdly fit with everything else lol

[alpine junco]

and we have a confederate sword for light

[snow walrus]

Which one is it

[alpine junco]

The defualt sword, confederate calvary iirc

Rob said it was lore related

[snow walrus]

Well confederate flag (2nd and 3rd var) is kinda X shape too

[alpine junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_1860_Light_Cavalry_Saber
this one

[fading vigil]

R.357 - is REST in leet, yeah?

[snow walrus]

Oooooo I remember now. There is the one "CS" on it

[alpine junco]

yup!

[snow walrus]

I must have been missed that CS stands for Cavalry Saber. Nice

I always thought CS would be a person name

[white patrol]

Some questions about this image
Did we ever figure out why elements are marked with "X"
Why is Bromine(Br) painted with blue marker?

[dull marsh]

no

[alpine junco]

Hg is also marked with a blue marker?

[dull marsh]

yeah this pic has a ton of stuff

[white patrol]

ohhh true I didn't notice

[alpine junco]

it's all on the miro right?

[white patrol]

blue marker and pte/cns etc... are unexplained, blue marker isn't even on there

also red X markings

[alpine junco]

what about x=s and yolo?

[white patrol]

X=5 Y=6 is explained, dunno about yolo, my web browser can't handle the sheer information of that miro so it shuts down if I open the page for too long

[alpine junco]

oh y=6 it looks like yolo, i havent looked at that image in a long time

[white patrol]

what does CNS remember mean?
I don't remember

[white patrol]

one dark X marker

[dusk siren]

The blue is apparently an indication that they are liquid (at standard temp and pressure of some kind, presumably)

One less thing to worry about, maybe? 🙂

[alpine junco]

have we looked into these

university of oxford

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_the_University_of_Oxford

and Cambridge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cambridge

[dusk siren]

Lol... was just going to post this, but I didn't spot it until you pointed it out. 🙂 ❤️ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxbridge

[alpine junco]

two in one, even better

[dusk siren]

I'm still hung up on "ox" being interesting somehow... the origin of the letter "A"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph

[alpine junco]

Oxford Cambridge is written but wasnt sure

[dusk siren]

Yeah, I saw that... sure is, um, oddly written

[alpine junco]

i was like "of ford amnioa???"

[dusk siren]

Just in case it ends up being a "123, ABC" thing at some point, these origins might be of interest (ox, house, throwing stick/camel) 🤷

[snow walrus]

"The difference between the Dano-Norwegian and the Swedish alphabet is that Swedish uses the variant ⟨ä⟩ instead of ⟨æ⟩, and the variant ⟨ö⟩ instead of ⟨ø⟩."

So in this hunt we are not using modern swedish ig

[dusk siren]

Could it be that the "University of St. Andrews" is a "missing 3rd" given the context??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_St_Andrews
A stretch for sure, though

Three dawns?
(Ok, I need to close Discord for a while)

* Note: it's a crescent moon...

Per heraldry-wiki:
Origin/meaning
The arms were officially granted in 1905 and augmented in 2006.
The crescent moon represents Peter de Luna, the given name of Pope Benedict XIII who issued the bulls of foundation of the University in 1413.
The lion rampant is taken from the Royal Arms of Scotland and represents the royal authority of King James I (1406-1437) who was associated with the foundation.
The gold diamonds (mascles or) are taken from the personal arms of Henry Wardlaw, Bishop of St Andrews 1404-1440 who issued the original charter which incorporated the Studium Generale in 1411/12.
The open book with the red page edges represents learning and the blue and silver cross represents the saltire of Scotland.
The crest with mantling and an apple tree with the boar of St Andrews represents the tree of knowledge and the town of St Andrews.
("gold diamonds"... lol, a bit much)

Just wondering if the Boar of St. Andrews could be connected to the Calydonian Boar Hunt...

Can't find a great single source atm, but this has some interesting stuff in it (remembering that this might be relevant via the powe_i_powe image and St. Andrew's cross) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Andrews_Cathedral_Priory

[surreal sinew]

tho 357 magnum is a common revolver caliber so most likely not and just saying what round it shoots

[surreal sinew]

whats in the mugs reflection

[surreal sinew]

yep we have åäö which we have not seen

[austere rover]

That combined map image kinda looks strikingly similar to the actual strip on Las Vegas... Come to think of it, there was a scene in a trailer where the contestants were standing about there while an alien invasion was occurring too

[dusk siren]

Re: the Boar of St. Andrews
Rob did say "DIG"... an off chance that one meaning would be "bore" (as in digging holes)?
"boar"? "bore"? 🤔

A side note: in case "bore" ever becomes relevant, and etymological coincidence that it descends from "from Proto-West Germanic *borōn". The idea that Rob would ever use something like this as a hint for the element boron feels unlikely, but since people were just posting the periodic table, I thought I'd throw it out there.

[dusk siren]

I'm happy to concede it's a stretch and anything else just a coincidence. It's one of those ideas I'll just have to mess around with more and will let people know if I notice anything promising.
Couple related thoughts that have also occurred to me:

• There is an Alien Invasion scenario in which one of the UFOs blasts directly behind the Eastwood sign, which is roughly the location I'm going to look into
• "Eastwood Drive" and the shape of the sign are maybe a bit reminiscent of an old-time "Drive-In" theater
• Space alien movies are a classic movie genre (stating the obvious)
  I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't think it was a valid idea to add to the long (very long) list of Masterplan Markup map ideas.

[odd sequoia]

Hmm.. guess that’s a discrepancy on Xbox then

[white patrol]

@dark leaf Hey walker sorry to bother you, this is bannable right?

@barren hound @dark leaf

thanks CMs :3

[velvet narwhal]

I feel like an ambigram made out of caedmon could be one of the passwords. The ae would be the middle of the ambigram.

I also think that one of the passwords is a pallindrome using a "rr" or other double letters in the middle

Blaufuss (the german name of Krahule) could also be a password. It's kinda similar in structure to the Level 2 password: color + thing
0v0aurum: golden egg
Blaufuss: blue foot

[surreal sinew]

What happend

[sharp flame]

Pentafoil spotted IRL 👀

[surreal sinew]

wait did you go there

[sharp flame]

Completely different location haha

[surreal sinew]

damn

[sharp flame]

Here's a different building in the same area 👀

[sly latch]

Hello! Just joined recently bcause i wanted to help on the egg hunting, considering X = 5 and X=6 and considering the number designing the groupe and period of the element are marked down in green i searched for tantalum, a rare metal used in electronic equipment, it's name is based from the greek figure tantalus, i think that could be worth looking it up

[surreal sinew]

welcome to hell i mean welcome to the ee hunt where we all feel like giving up untill somebody makes a breakthrough and saves us from it thats the loop we got ees from the main whopp to the syshorizon secret room to practice range roses so weather u want to think smart and have 5000 wikipidia tabs open or u wanna try things in game theres a flavour of insanity for all of us

[sly latch]

[surreal sinew]

@dull marsh @gloomy anvil we should update this

since we found him now

also i really like how u guys split it up with phase one and 2

[oak mason]

who is he ?

[surreal sinew]

c(ae but combined)dmon

[surreal sinew]

heres a link to the church with the stained glass that this face is on

[oak mason]

but the original image was found as a reference? TBH i can't find image to represent him

[eternal violet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cædmon#/media/File:St_Andrew,_Bethune_Road_-_Stained_glass_window_-_geograph.org.uk_-_4398049.jpg

[oak mason]

Holy... yea thats him 😄

[surreal sinew]

I couldn’t find it but it was by @low escarp so ask him

[oak mason]

Ehlo sent the link

[surreal sinew]

That’s not to the og message tho

There’s his face but also the star blobs

[crisp eagle]

Those images are made and edited by Ludo. He’s probably busy being French

[surreal sinew]

ah true

[fresh quiver]

I dont say its anything, but I found some coincidences again.

St. Andrew, Stoke Newington is a church in London Borough (read as Burrow) of Hackney, England
The historical and administrative heart of Hackney is Mare Street, which lies 5 miles (8 km) north-east of Charing Cross.
The first surviving records of the place name are as Hakney (1231) and Hakeneye (1242 and 1294).
The "ey" suffix almost certainly refers to an island;
Hackney is bounded to six (hex) Districts/places

[surreal sinew]

where did you get ey from

[fresh quiver]

you could read "ey" as "eye" in theory.

and "ey" is mentioned also in the wiki article of "London Borough of Hackney"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Borough_of_Hackney

[surreal sinew]

oh i see now

[fresh quiver]

Charing Cross has been the notional "centre of London"

[surreal sinew]

yeah that ik but the uk left the eu and was never part of europe it was the british isles

[fresh quiver]

rob never said there arent any other centres. So thats my thought why the "centre" was still interesting to me

[surreal sinew]

yeah actually have we checekd if any of the numbers we have got is the size of the uk or the isles

[fresh quiver]

from the centre of London you can get to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilometre_zero

One such marker is the Milliarium Aureum ("Golden Milestone") of the Roman Empire, believed to be the origin for the maxim "All roads lead to Rome".

[snow walrus]

Seek the truth beyond the wallstreet

[snow walrus]

St Marks on center point

https://maps.app.goo.gl/cfxCbhJtZQpkPLLk7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8th_Street_and_St._Mark's_Place

[dusk siren]

Dang... @velvet narwhal , @fresh quiver , and @snow walrus on 🔥 today. Those all sound like legit leads. 🙏

[snow walrus]

funnily enough I was looking at Samras' link and idk why "kilometre zero" sounded to me greenwich so i went to google maps and typed greenwich and saw there is a place called greenwich village in manhattan. There are Bethune Street, Barrow Street and stuff there but not so close to where I have found 123ABC Avenues

https://www.metmuseum.org/met-publications/the-treasury-of-san-marco-venice

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_the_Evangelist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mark's_Campanile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasury_of_St_Mark's_Basilica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Mark's_Basilica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_Saint_Mark

According to legend, the tradition originated in the 8th century, when a man of low social standing is said to have fallen in love with a noblewoman from Venice. In order to win her father's approval, he became involved in a distant war. He was mortally wounded in battle, but managed to pluck a rose from a nearby rosebush for his loved one. A companion was entrusted with returning the blood-stained rose to his lover.

[dusk siren]

I noticed something I found a bit odd yesterday, which seemed to associate the word and concept of "mark" with various cross shaped symbols when analyzing the evolution of semitic alphabets 🤷
Not sure who gets to be the authority on what to call things in a table like this, though.

[snow walrus]

there is a cube next to 3rd Ave
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jBw6SWnCSyTnugDa8

[sly latch]

good there's the cube, now where is the cashbox

[snow walrus]

If we get any 👀 ..can search for the cashbox as well xd

[sly latch]

nah i m joking, hard to get on a mystery hunt midway, slowly reading what have been done to understand where to go from now

[snow walrus]

it wouldn't make any sense if you just read here because we are over 2 years of progression

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/THE_FINALS_Easter_Egg_Hunt

[sly latch]

thanks!

[surreal sinew]

thats actually a crazy stat

[snow walrus]

Idk how I could not see while checking out the map but that area is called
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_City,_Manhattan

[snow walrus]

No oval... simple rectangle grids the best right Rob?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissioners'_Plan_of_1811#The_plan

[mellow wasp]

Is the duck on the Monaco map part of the EE?

[dusk siren]

It was for the Monaco Gold Nama Tama

[mellow wasp]

tysm 🙏🏼

[onyx hollow]

does anyone else's ∞ symbol look like flattened out lately?

[solid jay]

@hard current illustrator of Jack and the Beanstalk won this award from the Royal Society of Arts(RSA)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Crane

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Medal_(Royal_Society_of_Arts)

[white patrol]

when is this added? I don't remember any video about it

[past karma]

In 8.9.0! They have an embed video on the patchnotes page, it's easy to miss :)

https://www.reachthefinals.com/patchnotes/890

[white patrol]

ahh icic :3 thanks!

[white patrol]

no destruction where those dirt piles comefrom? inside DCS

need digging? or just bug

[alpine junco]

Yeah was questioning that as well

[scarlet quiver]

I am sorry as this is reaching for the nozomi/citadel stuff. If everything is sequential, after the 3 ticket area have we explored the rest of the map to see any changes? They mention it needing teamwork. There are things like the metal detectors (possiblyrelated to the signs from translation:circuit maze and playground) and the cameras. Notice the cameras all change differently. Some change left to right and some flash to a new screen. Just some things I noticed. Not a bit lore person but I enjoy digging into the maps.

Also in the research facility there are a few walls with lights blinking. To the left of the receptionist area. It sort of looks like a circle plus a lot of rectangles. Could that have to do with anything in the operations center? Like I said im reaching. New to all this so just throwing stuff at the wall. Thanks/sorry in advance!

Cameras as in the lower level of connection center. Kinda reminds me of the odd squares we see in different floor levels

Sorry again. New to this stuff so it might have been covered already

[past karma]

I myself want to return to Nozomi tickets EE and explore the map more, especially after all the tickets are inserted! You might have more like in the #1381733504718606496 thread :)

[scarlet quiver]

It doesn't let me post my crazy theories/ideas there yet 😛 but I shall soon hopefully

[velvet narwhal]

should be quick. You only need 1 lvl to write in threads

[austere rover]

Did some looking into this, and it turns out that C N S on the Periodic Table of Elements would be Carbon, Nitrogen and Sulphur. These are 3 non-metal elements that are critical to life on Earth, and each have their own cycle that takes them through various parts of the environment. The only guess I could guess right now is that they're correlating CNS to life somehow? I'm starting to wonder if the 3 perfect frogs wasn't some other kind of metaphor than I originally thought... That's all I got

[solid jay]

I believe this has been discussed in the past. It fits in with the theme of creation.

I think I'm onto something in the https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1203859365610922036 thread btw

[solid jay]

I think the old book might be Köhler's Medicinal Plants

[onyx hollow]

i'm looking back at gameplay and at the start of S9 the ∞ looked normal & matched the rest of the text height. something's going on!

[mellow wasp]

Has anyone tried to do anything with the 5 stationary peeps in the Range and the 5 roses?

[sly latch]

Nah, only thing i tried rn was with throwable, medium transformation gadget and demat and dropping the roses out of bound but last one was just me goofing around

[surreal sinew]

There’s a roses thread better to ask there

[urban grove]

are there any easter eggs in fangwai?

[low escarp]

probably but we didnt find anything yet

[severe creek]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1448403604733034577 there's a thread of things that have been cataloged but no official ee's yet

[odd sequoia]

Anyone mind looking this over and maybe giving me some feedback?

#1203859365610922036 message

[mellow wasp]

Can we get a thread for lvl 2 EE or lore focused EE?

[solid jay]

There are tons of threads for all the various EEs already.

[mellow wasp]

Yeah but it feels cluttering to have big lore posts go in amongst discussions in the lore general chat and there’s not ones for the OSPUZE website/ photos or any of the other sponsors besides Holtow.

[solid jay]

I'd suggest starting here https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1100745453206786078 for anything EE related. Lore stuff can stay in lore.

[solid jay]

I was just thinking about this. I'm wondering if MW = Master Work

[surreal sinew]

Mainly since those are related to the big whoop and later stages check thk miro board for a general consensus bout stuff

[fading vigil]

Do I see a rose in the latest update art? (Left side of the art, growing from the pot)

[surreal sinew]

Doesn’t seem like it looks more like a small pineapple or palm tree or tigerfruit than a rose but good eyes

[robust junco]

Send a photo

[surreal sinew]

Photo is in game announcements

[robust junco]

Thx

[severe creek]

we did get another "steal the spotlight" flavor text

[unkempt dune]

all I think of from the phrase "steal the spotlight" is when everyone was using spotlights on Las Vegas during the Steal the Spotlight LTM

[snow walrus]

something something storm

[hard current]

I would try #📕┇lore ? Why level 2 specifically?

[snow walrus]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1262489229842317343
Level2: https://padlet.com/Kyne

[solid jay]

Have we had clues from game announcement images before? I thought it was just Official Art channel for the EE?

[surreal sinew]

i dont think so im not sure u should ask somebody with more experiance i was here att the start but i took a long break

[robust junco]

Is that thermal bore 💀

I cant tell

[severe creek]

revolver animation

[austere rover]

Someone did wind up finding metal VAIIYA emblems hidden on the Citadel half, at least 2 or 3? I personally think it could use more looking into

[dull marsh]

Oh I FINALLY cracked that date thingy hehe

Spoiler ||it's not a date||

[hard forge]

oh?

[dull marsh]

our interpretation of it is: 3 1/2 5/2 6 13 15 14

At the end we're not sure if it's 14 or 16 as the 4 or 6 is ambiguous

It's actually both potential 6's that are 4's, so we get: 3 1/2 5/2 4 13 15 14

Which gives us

3 1/2 5/2 4 13 15 14
C A/2 E/2 D  M  O  N
= Cædmon

[hard forge]

OYE 🥹

[solid jay]

So Caedmon seems pretty important I guess lol

[gloomy anvil]

nice !

[dull marsh]

also means his name is not what the clues are leading to

imo

actually think it points to St Andrew church 🤔

Cuz everything is about THAT window specifically, not Caedmon in general

[gloomy anvil]

it seems so obvious now .. half of a & e

[sharp flame]

You may be onto something. That window must have a deeper history

[dull marsh]

what took us astray was the 4 seen as 6

[sharp flame]

It really was clever, and stopped us from finding out the translation immediately (though it wasn't that hard) 😭😭

The JPEG compression has genuinely delayed some of these clues by months 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[dull marsh]

I noticed earlier that Ca/Be/BFMoN was WAYYYYYYY too suspiciously matching CAXXMON

[sharp flame]

Yeah, some clues are solvable only when we've already figured out the answer haha

[dull marsh]

tbf we could totally have found this one

[sharp flame]

defo yes

if the text was crystal clear and not up to interpretation I would have taken a shot at it

[hard forge]

the 4 and 6 urggg

[rugged breach]

With how little clues there were in poweris compared to the other images and 2 of them being caedmon, I'm getting a feel the other ones might relate to that specific thread as well

[sharp flame]

Why does Caedmon appear in a separate image then?

[dull marsh]

It's in both DISSUN images afaik

Just earlier were more cryptic and then in the second DISSUN image it's his face + name

[eternal violet]

they are both in the same image

[alpine junco]

Caedmon’s face, his name, the window, 3 things relating to one person

[gloomy anvil]

Dissun images share a common theme of clues. The window shape and road names are in the first. Caedmon is in the second (twice).

[eternal violet]

surely the window of a church refers to the church, not the person?

[dull marsh]

First one also has DUNSMURE BETHUNE

[hard forge]

i think caedmon is pointing towards that church

[gloomy anvil]

oh yep

[solid jay]

MW. Area = Major Works?

[dull marsh]

hey I said that already!

hehe

I may not even be the first one lol

[gloomy anvil]

I wonder if we could reverse engineer the 4492 & 4429 clues from Dissun

not literally reverse engineer, but get closer

[solid jay]

The window has caedmon loooking right but from the outside he would be looking left correct?

in the Dissun image he is looking left

[hard forge]

can you post the image of the clue plz plz

[crisp eagle]

Now for those pesky 2’s

[gloomy anvil]

Yes, interesting point. Could be outside, or a mirror clue.

[solid jay]

I just looked he's looking right in both images. Still soemthing to keep in mind.

But he is looking at Bede

[crisp eagle]

@hard forge right and left side

Actually it makes me think of the ISEUL-T image how it’s mirrored

[solid jay]

Theres a crane on top of the church in google maps.

[crisp eagle]

“Science is fun when you know the secrets”

I also wonder if the missing rsr along with poweris_poweris_poweris somehow point to that church or Caedmon

[rugged breach]

I think I found where caedmon fit, he confirms the theme

He dreamed that there appeared to him a stranger, who addressed him by his name, and commanded him to sing of “the beginning of created things.”
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclopædia_Britannica/Cædmon

• 123/ abc / I we who
• Null
• History
• Egg = beginning of life = namatama ("Level 3 is all about them")

[solid jay]

Apparently the windows on the south side of the chruch did not survive damage in WW2

[alpine junco]

anyone connect Caedmon, Whitby Abbey, and William the Conqueror?

[solid jay]

I mention something similar here

#easter-eggs message

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliand#:~:text=In the one language or the other, there are in existence the following three fragments

[snow walrus]

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caedmon_Manuscript
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain_and_Abel
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah

beginning is Genesis

is this the book we are looking for 🤔

[snow walrus]

oval - X - 1.23 - Rose hill - St mary's church
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eXe2w3BfQ2h3kmfR8

[hard current]

@dull marsh you so lovely good job

[dull marsh]

it ain't much at this point 🫠

[snow walrus]

What I dont understand is if all this is about the beginning(?) why the game is called as Discovery.exe

[low escarp]

if its about the beginning why is it lvl3

[surreal sinew]

I guess we need to discover why it might be called that

[solid jay]

I think it's more about creation and firsts?

[austere rover]

Ah yes, I listened to that song just the other day, performed by Peter Pringle on YT. It's called Caedmon's Hymn, he plays it on the Anglo-Saxon Lyre if you're curious

[dull marsh]

So far my takeaway is:

• DISSUN images: Caedmon stained glass at St Andrew church
• VAIIYA image: Empty/vacuum/null/void/...
• ISEUL-T: silk road, herodotus and a few other things (no major obvious theme)
• S5 keyart and Valentines keyart: seems like a mix of everything? hard to tell

[whole snow]

https://www.twitch.tv/ardyirl/clip/CuriousUglyCheddarPanicVis-OPkWDTMvrlpZotek Apparently the sys horizon room was found by Rio using the barricade fly bug

[gloomy anvil]

lol that's interesting

[alpine junco]

which means it could be an invisible box in the sky???

[odd sequoia]

So it’s stored oob and needs to be called in. So there’s a trigger and it’s not just.. well hidden somewhere. I’m guessing?

[gloomy anvil]

makes sense

[dull marsh]

So it sounds like it's high up and hard to reach for that reason, if there is a machanism to get in is another thing 🤔

[hard forge]

someone needs a beanstalk

[odd sequoia]

Well, he does say science is fun when you know it’s secrets. He’s hinted at the Apple being relevant. I’m thinking during a low gravity event.

[white patrol]

could the audio in keyart mean Caedmon's hymm?

[alpine junco]

And that apple got updated in a couple patches

[white patrol]

what's the context of this may I ask? :3

[odd sequoia]

It did?

[patent eagle]

interesting

[unkempt dune]

the health for it was updated or something along those lines

I've always considered health being a potential clue for an ee (ex. 3599 for something like 3rd of May, 1999)

[odd sequoia]

Specifically for that one apple?

[unkempt dune]

should have been

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/IncredulousPerfectSalamanderGingerPower-WTXSvCRFkr0TPDI1

[shy oracle]

Dang I want to know what it looks like but if it’s in the sky oob it might be like that one underground generator Monaco

[unkempt dune]

Fixed incorrect health value on one of the big metal apples in the Art Gallery building so it can be destructed as intended

it's one of the apples that had the "incorrect health value"

there's the full apple and the bitten apple

[odd sequoia]

Thank you for this!

I’ll be honest, I’ve had my theories and spent plenty of time in game testing ideas. But I was doing some research into the “science is fun if you know its secrets” hint.

The first result is The Finals wiki for Horizon. I never actually read through it so I took a moment to do so. Apparently the dolphins originally needed to be done by 7 people standing on specific tiles with specific loadouts…in a public match. I can’t even imagine how low the odds of that happening before it was changed would’ve been.

Truthfully after that I just feel hopeless it’ll ever be found. Tbh lately all the in game Easter eggs are feeling hopeless.. sorry for the random rant. 😕

[unkempt dune]

the dolphin ee trigger is different than the dolphin charm trigger

you are referring to the dolphin charm trigger, which nobody still knows for sure

the dolphin ee trigger is elementary

[surreal sinew]

the "i need to finish this guy" att the end

[fresh quiver]

imho it is.
But as always I still have my doubt a bit.
Yes. Rob telling someone of the EE? very likely sometimes...
Rob sharing the exact locations of the Egg? IMHO Very unlikely

Or I misunderstood it a bit that he found it by accident while glitching...

[low escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[surreal sinew]

we need to ask him about it a bit

[low escarp]

wait Ardy and Gerry talking who is rio?

[surreal sinew]

im gonna ping rio in the sys thread to ask him smth (had to go to phl discord to ask what his @ was lol)

[low escarp]

oh its him i know his face hehe

[surreal sinew]

yeah he was one of the analyists during the major

[low escarp]

hehe im just bad with names

[surreal sinew]

take a look in sys thread

@low escarp u think he will respond

[crisp eagle]

Really odd. I remember Rob at one point saying the secret room is a “nice place to go down and hide in.” Something like that. Going down, but flying.

[crisp eagle]

Might be weak, but ISEUL-T might be a connection theme. Herodotus’s writing were crucial for our modern day discover of the Silk Road through the Royal Road. And I think that’s the image we had GRUK which points to Piet Hein who made the game Hex which is about connecting one side to the other.

[velvet narwhal]

yeah pretty sure he said that. can't find the proof tho

[low escarp]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/AgileFriendlyPuffinJebaited-lpXdQzvm7KG4D7BF
Rob: So on this map (SYS$Horizon), there is a small little hidden room that you can go down and hide in

[surreal sinew]

Then he gets cut of from steals but he was gonna say a reason do we know if he continues to talk more after

[white patrol]

it's called flying barricade glitch, but IIRC it's not 100% flying, sometimes it just tweaking on/near ground

[low escarp]

right after this clip ends Ardy mentions something about the roses https://www.twitch.tv/ardyirl/clip/ElatedBloodySpiderStoneLightning-GvpDy9Wcjdz0EKP_

[past karma]

"They are all linked..."
??????????????

This terrifies me

I wonder what other EEs could "all" mean, and if the link is purely thematic or like an order of activation type of thing

[low escarp]

rob has mentioned something like " everything is conected" at some point

[crisp eagle]

Ohhh ok so I wonder if Rio said flying like it just launching him forward, but still ground level

[white patrol]

streamer/content creator knows more about easter eggs than us scares me

[crisp eagle]

Yea wasn’t it on a stream with Water and Rocko? He mentions something about how since we are in a VR world, lore-wise there wouldn’t be single maps, but an open world. So logically they would all be connected across “maps.” It’s just obviously we only play single maps at a time being an FPS game

[low escarp]

iirc ppl just called it the "barricade fly glitch/bug"

[surreal sinew]

barricade ufo

[crisp eagle]

Well yea. But they don’t work for hints like we do. They just get told the solutions. We solve

[low escarp]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/KitschyFairKoupreySoBayed-dju-27MaNBoL6N7_

[surreal sinew]

i have clip of me using it lemme get it

https://www.youtube.com/@purplemadnes/featured

its the only 2 videos on my channel

1 is the full clip the other is shortend

[white patrol]

rob just tells them? 😭

[surreal sinew]

(not self promo i dont make content its just easier to share the channel than 2 videos)

[surreal sinew]

apperantyl so we know exactly what to do now we have to make content get big and run a esports org not hard att all

[crisp eagle]

Well yea haha we just watched clips of Ardy and Rio saying how Rob told them everything haha

Not ALL creators. Please don’t take me saying that as they all know. I’m sure it’s only them. I feel like creators who stand to gain content from knowing secrets would creatively “find” them for videos. Which is never done.

[surreal sinew]

wait but he said all the maps does that include the maps that have relased since or does it get aded do we need maps that arent in the game yet does it get harder every map added what does it mean

[low escarp]

🤷🥀

[white patrol]

what else he said after this peaches? is there a vod?

[white patrol]

I'm gonna cry

[low escarp]

if u click on the clip on twitch theres a "watch full vid" or somehting like taht

[crisp eagle]

We will make it! We will solve these!

[crisp eagle]

He has mentioned an EE that grows. Which I’ve always assumed was the PR Roses since it seems to need to be fully solved by doing things across multiple/all maps

[white patrol]

genuinely feels it's easier to kidnap those streamers and ask than solving easter egg at this point :3 but yeah pibby we solve those

[surreal sinew]

feels impossible

[surreal sinew]

i was gonna make a joke about kidnapping ardy but felt like its a bad joke but yeah it might be easier lol (not that we would right guys)

[crisp eagle]

I think something else we need to remember is how in those two clips, Rio is saying how he did the barricade clip to “fly into” the secret room. Ardy then accepts that as a way of getting in there, but thinks he is talking about the PR. It’s interesting to me that both can be accessed by glitching the same way potentially and the reasoning is “they are all connected.” That’s just so wild to me. But I also don’t know computerz.

[surreal sinew]

what i feel like is that he shot through the roof of the pr where it is white (clouds that the beanstalk grow through?) but when i went oob before i came back to the hunt using the gateway i never saw stuff there

[odd sequoia]

I guess that makes me feel a bit better, thank you!

[white patrol]

Just reviewed the clip, ardy said he doesn't know how to do it, just know what happense :3 I now refund my plane ticket

[surreal sinew]

He said rob sent him everything also what ticket

[white patrol]

"rob said 'I told ardy what happens, I didn't tell him how to do it tho'" siad ardy

[surreal sinew]

Ah but maybe it could still work

[crisp eagle]

Plane ticket haha she’s just going along with the joke of going to get Ardy

[surreal sinew]

im confused

[crisp eagle]

I’ll explain in off topic

[whole snow]

They were just talking about their NDA's or something and this came along

[gloomy anvil]

Rio was talking about sys$horizon not the practice range

Also in that clip Ardy talks about getting like 30 DMs about the roses, and how he couldn't answer any, so I don't imagine pinging him or Rio will be worth much.

[alpine junco]

Well, the only area where you can really fly on sys$horizon is where the dolphins are

[odd sequoia]

Does anyone know what the default loadout for a brand new light was before they added the new system?

[surreal sinew]

dont want to inspire false hope but rio friened me but he hasent said anything

[white patrol]

make him talk (devilish whisper)

[surreal sinew]

im trying to il send a picture of dms when we done talking

[low escarp]

ask him if hes ok with u sending a screenshot of dms first tho

[surreal sinew]

i will

[low escarp]

just to be clear i didnt mean that in any personal way just in general we all get excited about potential leads in the hunt i think its important that we dont negatively effect ppl around it
that we all spam rob in a twitch chat is fair he kinda signed up for it by making them
but like we heard in ardys clip him suddenly getting 30 dms because rob mentioned him in relation to the hunt
he prob didnt sign up for that and we gotta make sure we remind each other of that whenever we get to eager on the hunt

[surreal sinew]

i pu it here and sys chat

[gloomy anvil]

I wouldn't read too much into that. Ardy isn't Rob and I reckon it's pretty normal for anyone to describe EEs as linked, in an offhand comment.

[low escarp]

ty @surreal sinew for asking and ty Rio for the response

[crisp eagle]

Wrong channel for that, and please don’t ping Embarkers

[flint cedar]

okay😢

[dull marsh]

I removed, pibblix explained well already! (no worries tho, it's just to keep this chat clean-ish)

[narrow oriole]

what stuff has been tried out on the vaiiya/cns map

[dull marsh]

We mostly solved the Arcade ticket hunt (tho there may be more to it? unsure)
Outside of that not that much

[narrow oriole]

is there any explanation to what that is? its been a long time

[snow walrus]

#1381733504718606496

[empty plaza]

I just realized THE FINALS's development name was Project Discovery

All the guns are manufactured by "Discovery Corp"

Just a thought lol

[surreal sinew]

ooo yah also hello wompie

[empty plaza]

hai 👋

[vital knoll]

@narrow oriole yeah me and some friends spend like an hour going around and breaking every camera and nothing happened

We also tried only breaking cameras that had red lights or only breaking ones that did not

[narrow oriole]

hmmm

I still think theres something up with them

I will check it out myself later on too

It makes too much sense to me that they mean something

[low escarp]

rob did mention the cams somewhere

#1292576119849095210 message

[narrow oriole]

Yeah thats what yourdoom said too

I think thats something ill comit some time to

[hard current]

I would actually try to find cameras that differ from others

I.e. what’s the standard behavior/look, identify the ones that differ

[solid jay]

Are there cams that are connected to CCTVs? Maybe you need to only break the ones that are displaying a feed?

[hard current]

Could be? I haven’t seen any in game cctv stations in any maps

[sharp flame]

day 1,234 of figuring out Level 3

✍️

[snow walrus]

how long you have been waiting for to type this 😄

[sharp flame]

not long, I made that number up just now

[snow walrus]

right that number goes to many years lol

but eventually we'll get there don't you worry Fish!

[low escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-mgr-speech-bubble-gif-25397532

[gloomy anvil]

I'm concerned that I believed this for a moment

[severe creek]

theres the cam room in connection center, but the images mostly repeat from each screen (same image is used for a card background too)

several cams that have weird behavior/placement tho, like cameras stacked on each other or the 360° free spinning one on nozomi side

[sharp flame]

sorry 😭

[glossy junco]

hi

[sharp flame]

I'm currently following a Level 3 Password link that MIGHT be something

and the best part? it's simple

[hard forge]

what is the best you got?

[sharp flame]

Pangea.

links the "humanity's origin" thread, the "continents" thread, the "geological history" thread

1 2 3 ==> "Triassic(?)" period, 3 major landmasses, etc.

[hard forge]

and MW?

[sharp flame]

and I'm chasing it because nobody in EE has hunted down Pangea as the possible answer before

[sharp flame]

don't have a theory for that

[hard forge]

Maybe MW is not a M W

[hard forge]

how did you reach here?

we have caedmon

[sharp flame]

I was looking at the continents thread

[hard forge]

assuming the numbers are co-ordinate?

we do have silk road

[hard current]

@sharp flame have you tried pangaea in the password fields yet

Pangea

However you spell it

[sharp flame]

just did, nada

[hard current]

Poo:(

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurasia

Laurasia is the more recent, and contains Europe, NA, Asia. Coincidence?

[solid jay]

The continental plates kinda remind me of that whiteboard image iirc

[sharp flame]

OH MY GOD

😭 WE ARE STUPID

or we aren't

but we had this omg

IMAGE 1:
EMPTINESS / NULL / ||N/A -> NA!!!|| -> NORTH AMERICA

IMAGE 2:
ENGLISH / ORIGIN OF EUROPE -> EUROPE

IMAGE 3:
SILK ROAD / ORIGIN OF ASIA -> ASIA

Continents was a primary thread since the beginning. For some reason, each image focused on 1 continent.

[hearty meteor]

so what does the cns image focus on

[sharp flame]

which one are you talking about?

[solid jay]

So MW = ??? Area = respective continent.

[hearty meteor]

idk! whichever one rob is trying to have us solve next since his tag is now cns

[solid jay]

MW = Major Works?

[sharp flame]

all theories we have, for sure. Just wanted to show the link, and how obvious it could be when you step back

[solid jay]

So if North America is null and empty. Then it would give us a timeline? As if it hadn't been discovered yet.

[sharp flame]

oo I didn't think of that. The connection I had was simply Null = N/A = North America

[solid jay]

Could be as simple as that. Could be pointing at the discovery of the continent. Could lean into Norse stuff being the first to land here in Newfoundland. (Columbus was a fraud 😂)

[gloomy anvil]

I feel like I mentioned this before but I had to recheck. Dissun+Vaiiya+Iseul-t is 19 total characters (including hyphen).

Most sponsor names are roughly the same length though so it may be a coincidence, and my belief has been that Rob didn't choose those sponsors for S5 just to fit the EE, but it's still something to consider.

[sharp flame]

very much a possibility yes

@gloomy anvil what do we think of Null/Emptiness --> N/A = North America

[gloomy anvil]

I think that's a very plausible straightforward connection

[sharp flame]

also, I remember going on a tangent about STS-88 -> Zarya -> Three Dawns. Do you remember that one?

turns out, the simpler answer, we missed...

STS88 took the first American module, the Unity node, to the station.

the ISS was a multinational collaboration, and STS-88 was America's joining

(and obviously that clue is in the VAIIYA image --> NA)

JUST solved this one too!

I thought 160704 pointed to 16th of July, 2004

but the OBVIOUS answer is

1607 / 04

April 1607

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jamestown,_Virginia_(1607–1699)

Founding of America

[unkempt dune]

357 is in the VAIIYA image as well. Las Vegas (NA) is the only map with that number

[alpine junco]

I was gonna say Battle of Gibralter, flagship Æolus

[unkempt dune]

Discovery, the ship, in also in that connection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_(1602_ship)

[sharp flame]

which links it to the ISS clue in the same image -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Discovery

[unkempt dune]

there's also ludo's observation of 1.23 being related to the ship #easter-eggs message

357 can be a leet speak anagram for SET too (357 -> EST -> SET)

an empty set (NA) connection maybe?

[snow walrus]

The expedition consisted of three ships:

• Susan Constant
• Godspeed
• Discovery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_(1602_ship)

as Atsu pointed out xd

[alpine junco]

Also, Aegean being eyed was 100% for æ (how i see it)

[sharp flame]

an obvious part we missed about Simone Weil (in the VAIIYA/NA image), is that she herself worked on the spritual idea of Absence (emptiness)

[unkempt dune]

I believe this was discussed, no?

[sharp flame]

although it's true her brother, Andre Weil, came up with the Empty Set / Null symbols, she herself directly worked on the idea of emptiness

[sharp flame]

might have been, at least absent on the miro

[unkempt dune]

I'm pretty sure it was brought up, probably not on the miro

I know someone listed like three things related to that in here somewhere

[sharp flame]

Simone did have a 3-set of works

and some people were focusing on her mysticism, etc.

[solid jay]

3 passwords. 3 Major Works

[sharp flame]

but I think it's nice to have the knowledge now to be like "okay, I think we know what these clues mean"

the N/A --> NA thing is neat, I wonder if the America clues are pointing to Null, or if Null is pointing to NA.

[unkempt dune]

there's also technically a "set" (stage set) on Las Vegas

[solid jay]

I was going to also mention EST is a time-zone in NA

[unkempt dune]

Since hex is connected to this level and not only level 2. Earlier today I made this connection to hex (6):

I wouldn't be shocked if that was where the early 666 reference was pointing towards (O)

as well as the 3 dawns (6 degrees in difference between each stage, 666), which we know are also on Las Vegas

so it's entirely possible ANN BET CHRIS is pointing towards 3 dawns. It wouldn't quite fit the whole idea where each image is tied to only one continent. However, it's possible all of them are connected hex to (or 3 dawns)

1 - NA (Civil)
2 - EU (Nautical)
3 - AS (Astronomical)

although that's technically not the order we have for 123 and the regions, is it?

[dull marsh]

we have EU, NA, Asia

[unkempt dune]

I kind of like the idea of a black knight fitting the 1 night role

it'd be like working our way to space

3 Dawns 1 Night instead of 1 Night 3 Dawns

I mainly say working our way to space because of this:

[solid jay]

No namatama in space yet. Just like there are no geocaches in space yet?

Or at least there weren't? I think there's one on the ISS now?

[unkempt dune]

I haven't heard of anything on that matter

[dull marsh]

So now we're back to NA, EU, Asia... full circle 😄

[eternal violet]

there's also a geocache on mars

[solid jay]

GC1BE91 International Space Station (Traditional Cache) in Kazakhstan created by Richard Garriott https://share.google/mFzTt1X4nN7kAc5fm

[dull marsh]

Idk I think we just really need 1 property/place/thing related to all three continent 🤔

[gloomy anvil]

It's in locker #218 on the Russian module of the ISS but is listed as Kazakhstan because of the mission launch site

[solid jay]

Columbus set sail from Europe to discover a trade route to Asia around the back of the globe and "discovered" NA

[snow walrus]

the oldest continuously occupied settlement of European origin in the continental United States, was founded in 1565 by Spanish admiral Pedro Menéndez de Avilés.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_St._Augustine,_Florida

[surreal sinew]

cns is stage 2 of something

[unkempt dune]

You know, considering we've had CNS involved with #official-art, I'm starting to wonder if the glitch locations from Season 1 were clues related to the big whoop

[surreal sinew]

we wants us to work more on dissun but since we now know we need to dig more on dissun stuff hes starting to refresh his memory about the cns bit

[surreal sinew]

wait arent they crashing the iss in a few years what happens then

[gloomy anvil]

well if Rob was expecting us to board the ISS to solve Level 4 he'll be sorely disappointed

as for the cache, probably just gets retired

[snow walrus]

but there is also this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Anse_aux_Meadows

[surreal sinew]

its all about irl forgets to mention u need to be an astronaut LOL

[solid jay]

Maybe that's why it's the most complex EE ever

[solid jay]

Yup, Canadian here. That's why I know about this 😂

[unkempt dune]

Seoul's (Asia) connection to hex or 3 dawns could be the 6 degrees of freedom (6DOF) apartments.

for Monaco, the Duck and Cover aspect could connect to 6 (G in leet speak) with G-force

[snow walrus]

an L3 coordinate points here

part of Newfoundland and Labrador

[sharp flame]

1. EU
2. NA
3. ASIA

I believe this is the order. The images released in this order, and the Landmass clue has them ordered the same way

[white patrol]

do we have a map that pins every location shown on the L3 page? :3

[snow walrus]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Y1kaL6V9KTrJMy1W7
and
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=1gTEAYxRe-rnCRTUCKRYY9WClHLtpnho&usp=sharing

[white patrol]

thanks dread! :3

[snow walrus]

then should this #easter-eggs message
mean?
EU: Ο
NA: ∅
AS: X

[white patrol]

I might be stupid but isn't this an egg shape in africa?

[snow walrus]

it's a perfect circle actually but the map is projected as mercator you see it as not-perfect circle. Should fix if you view as globe

[white patrol]

ahhh I see I see, but this is africa tho... rob did mention O ∅ X
the O we assume it's in EU right?

[hard forge]

geographically on the west we have NA

X could be asia

[gloomy anvil]

hm yeah

Ο = Omicron = Greek = EU?
∅ = Null = N/A = NA?
X = Asia?

[hard forge]

could be

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_be_dragons
Hic Svnt Dracones:Here Are Dragons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostrich_Egg_Globe

[hasty anvil]

Asia was next suspected gold namatama right?

X marks the spot

[white patrol]

I have a dumb question :3
these are discovered right dread?

hex, O, X

[gloomy anvil]

I don't know where those coordinates are coming from

[sharp flame]

The coordinates from the Level 3 page don't have NSEW designations

we have no way of knowing if it's 43 North, or 43 South, so we have duplicate coords

which does make it kinda misleading for people who look at the map

[crisp eagle]

I'm liking the talks recently. the pangea idea makes me wonder if we need to map the coordinates according to where pangea would be on the wold map

[sharp flame]

might be another good shout! in a perfect world, no advanced mathematics would be needed

mainly because there's no way Rob can guarantee we'll get the same coords as him

[crisp eagle]

also good ideas, fish with the NA stuff. I brought up the STS-88 thing uniting the US before along with the Endeavor being named after a ship that was meant to find the NW passage but I never really noticed the American links

[gloomy anvil]

If we assume the coordinates are presented as-is, they are in positive decimal format, which denotes NE, but we can't make many assumptions.

[sharp flame]

this is all postmortem, really

I knew to look for America, since the other solves finally cleared up the Europe and Asia links

@crisp eagle and also having the bravery to go back and assume the previous solves were wrong (or had better/alternate paths)

[gloomy anvil]

oh that was the D2 I couldn't remember earlier @unkempt dune, decimal degrees (the L3 coordinates format) is abbreviated to DD

[white patrol]

#easter-eggs message
according to the first link :3

[sharp flame]

it was easy to undo the Jamestown one because I never really trusted myself when I found the I, Robot, link in the first place

so I just had to have another look at it 😭 (though we can't discount I, Robot just yet)

[crisp eagle]

which is such a freaking good idea and simple haha like how have we missed this

[snow walrus]

Well we have a clue that points to NW from black knight keyart

but ofc best to not exclude NE just in case

[dull marsh]

right now you're taking 4 times the same coordinates just oriented different directions (east/west, north/south), so of course you'll more of less be able to make some X and ellipse, perfectly centered around the 0, 0 coordinate 😄

[white patrol]

oki thanks ludo :3 I was so confused lol

[sly latch]

Couldn't be here for a few day, was changing my pc for something that can finally run the finals at 60 fps lol, anyway i'm not sure about this one since there isn't a complete concensus to where was pangea and it's exact coordinates, it is theorized that pangea was centered around equator, couln't find more rn

[lime badge]

hey, i have a question

can you still go out the map

in the practice range i remeber you could in like season 1

[sly latch]

Yeah you still can

Using portals and training ground it's fairly easy

[dull marsh]

I'm not sure but we don't use that for EE hunting

[surreal sinew]

not sure where to put this but only this charm seems to have it but i didnt test em all

[unkempt dune]

I don't know about telecommunications, but I do believe there's a heavy connection theme with Asia if we are to assume ISEUL-T's image is for the Asia portion. The first thing I thought of was the Sky Bridge on Seoul (Asia) connecting two buildings together.

It's probably the most iconic part of the map in my opinion. Similar to how the Cathedral (1st Golden Nama Tama) on Monaco is one of the most iconic parts of the map.

MW for Major Work could be more like Monument Work/Waypoint.

Picking an iconic spot for Las Vegas would be tough since there's 4 casinos that are all iconic in a sense. It's possible the center stage is the iconic spot since it's surrounded by them.

and we do know there's a reason why the stage is there (he happens to look at the all casinos in the video too): https://clips.twitch.tv/CuriousColorfulWatercressAliens-8rcctGxM0zEFgYwc

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/AgileFlirtyPlumberNomNom-hOYCaJ0NDuE013ig

It's big, it's colorful, it's cryptic

[surreal sinew]

we should look into the angle he goes onto the stage how many degrees he rotates around and what angle he leaves att

[unkempt dune]

I don't think that's significant personally

[surreal sinew]

probably not but i have an idea about the second clip

[sharp flame]

holy crap that's insane

[surreal sinew]

where he says to just fill it into the level 3 password its probably just a sign

[sharp flame]

the dice rolls to a random value?

[surreal sinew]

yeah its super confusing

[surreal sinew]

maybe wait lemme look

[surreal sinew]

looks like it goes from a 1 to a 4

[sharp flame]

no it does. it literally spins and changes number

that's so awesome, the actual texture/model changes

[surreal sinew]

yeah look here its diffrent everytime

[rugged breach]

He's looking downards at the code on the stage, not the casinos, no?

We never soled that one

[snow walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/felix-the-cat-safe-cracker-opening-a-safe-unlock-the-safe-safe-cracking-gif-18035368

[rugged breach]

It does kinda look like a safe dial now that you mention it doesn't it 🤔

[hasty anvil]

There's this shape on Bernal

Near the NW mountains

Next to the church 🤔

[solid jay]

The on the stage could be the arrow to line up a combination?

[unkempt dune]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/AgileObliqueSoymilkTebowing-_tS44Ck-QmZtZtKy

[odd sequoia]

I wonder if this somehow ties into blowing up the volcano

[solid jay]

Oh and they mention a cypher on the edge? Could that link up with the lines in that Dissun image?

[sharp flame]

let me guess, it's in the DISSUN section?

[alpine junco]

yup

[sharp flame]

👀

[hasty anvil]

Unsure but its in the courtyard next to the church

there's 4 of them

But it matches the namatama map of the mountains, maybe something like 4 players standing on them?

[sharp flame]

going for private lobby to check, code is 7YH9

[low escarp]

theres 5
one is under the little thingy idk what its called but break it and its under there

[alpine junco]

which is where the Dissun sponsor is

[severe creek]

i tried this with some people a few months back and no luck

[hasty anvil]

If it were to link to recent DISSUN clues, why such an emphasis on Caedmon

Maybe like it's triggered with music linking to the hymn

[unkempt dune]

@sharp flame

[sharp flame]

this is a massive leak oh wow

[crisp eagle]

Those things on Bernal are there IRL as well. I can't remember when exactly, but some of us tried having people stand on the main 4 visible ones, then tried all 5 including the one "hidden" under the thingy

[sharp flame]

he does seem to be looking down-ish

[unkempt dune]

which is where you've got https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koru

[crisp eagle]

This still sounds like he says "It's big, it's colorful, it's pretty" instead of cryptic. Especially with him saying "just enter it into the level 3 page" as if it only needs to be entered as-is and not decoded.

[unkempt dune]

Here's all the casino signs from Las Vegas:

as well as the stage and its surroundings:

here's Steakhouse | Lucky Star - 357 too:

[crisp eagle]

something that's always stuck with me as an idea I can't shake, is taking letters with stars. but it would be more than four

like how ARGON has a star in the O, and GLAMORA has a star under the M

I think Lapis Grandstand has one somewhere on it

[unkempt dune]

one thought is that maybe Season 5 was picked for clues because it matches Glamora in some ways..

[crisp eagle]

along with how Rob has said something like "I wonder where a good spot would be on LV to stargaze." then gives us that hint about the center stage. It's a good spot to "stargaze"

[snow walrus]

GLAMORA sign is sus look closely. M is like twin peaks both A have triangle, eclipse at top

[hasty anvil]

AKA watching a 'rockstar' perform?

[unkempt dune]

Glamora is "night"

which would connect to the Black Knight

[crisp eagle]

I like that

Yea and we've got that confirmation on them being 1 night, 3 dawns I think. Ludo I think said it and it got eyes or

Zaraby is still my main culprit for golden nama

[unkempt dune]

Opposite of Glamora is Zaraby, which is NW

it's a tiny bit suspicious that the two THE FINALS logos on the middle podium is pointing towards Zaraby and Glamora, but that could very well be a coincidence

[snow walrus]

Only i can think of about Zaraby is Zorya which both starts with Z

[snow walrus]

Rob says a combination according to this transcript

[crisp eagle]

Yea that makes me think it can be a longer word. Just made up of four different letters

[snow walrus]

One letter from every casino?

[unkempt dune]

Zaraby, ARGON, CASINO EASTWOOD would be the letters: DOZE

[unkempt dune]

the colorful aspect could point to multiple signs for sure

[crisp eagle]

I’m sure it’s been said and I missed it. But I never really noticed how much the ARGON “logo” looks like Saturn

[unkempt dune]

for reference:

[rugged breach]

Super tinfoil hat, and prolly a coincidence without galmora

Zaraby, argon and eastwood total 19 letters

[snow walrus]

Dont forget
K R Rrrrrrupertius

Zaraby and Argon have letter R

[alpine junco]

glamora also has 3 arrows (pyramids) pointing towards Zaraby (Egypt)

[unkempt dune]

666 (#easter-eggs message) for the 3 dawns, which doesn't include Glamora

[alpine junco]

this has always had my suspicion since season 2

[snow walrus]

Lets try concatenation the 3 casino names like activation page

Just tried
argoneastwoodzaraby

[rugged breach]

#1226677330689261631Tried all combos already just in case

[unkempt dune]

cryptic though.. hmmm

[sharp flame]

I wonder who this fella is

[hasty anvil]

Vegas Vic
https://discordapp.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1011929497139953744/1418344665240961247
I looked into this before

Has some interesting stories

[sharp flame]

right, of course it's supposed to be him

however, it's not him

[snow walrus]

Can watch S1 trailer again

[sharp flame]

he's wearing a distinct outfit, and he's doing a different pose

obviously could be legal thing, but also it's a whole different person

[snow walrus]

https://youtu.be/D_-sYUHyhAw

[hasty anvil]

Yeah I assumed it was, might be a story behind this one though

[crisp eagle]

yea could be legal thing and still a good opportunity to sneak in something since they had to change it anyway

[sharp flame]

okay, stopping hunting for now @crisp eagle @unkempt dune @alpine junco

[dull marsh]

Pretty sure it's been metioned before but if you take the first letters from the subtitle part of the casino (the part which is in a different font) you get:

• AD: Art Deco Glamora
• C: Argon Casino
• D Casino Eastwood Drive (Casino is in the same font as Eastwood here)
• LV: Zaraby Las Vegas

Which gives AD CDLV, or 455AD, year of the Sack of Rome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_(455)

[snow walrus]

The scene starts with glamora

[dull marsh]

Also it matches the orders of night + dawns

[alpine junco]

i gotta go as well

[crisp eagle]

I'm also leaving for now

[sharp flame]

the order matters, but did these get chosen arbitrarily?

[unkempt dune]

Likewise

[snow walrus]

I've tried rome roma and their leet equivalents

[dull marsh]

no the letters are chosen based on the part with a different font

[sharp flame]

I mean the order of them

[dull marsh]

and the order is the one for 1 night 3 dawns (Blue, Pink, Red, Orange)

[hasty anvil]

In the trailer there's a cashout in the middle

Look what all the background team are holding

[alpine junco]

"steal the spotlight" event had Argon as the casino for the highlight

[crisp eagle]

oh weird. no stage

all Elvises

[snow walrus]

Wait it doesnt start with glamora it starts with mirrored Zaraby

[robust junco]

What?

[snow walrus]

We tried to sledge the main area before

[hasty anvil]

All their outfits are dressed as rockstars holidng guitars, I wonder if it's something to do with having a team match the outfits and maybe smashing the guitars up?

[dull marsh]

I'm confused, aren't we just looking for letters which make (somehow) a password?

Rob said that while they were in freecam during a team wipe, he couldn't have done anything to the map with his contestant

[hasty anvil]

Yeah i'm just thinking of the stage EE after watching back the season 1 trailer

[snow walrus]

But isnt that outfit locked behind premium bp

[unkempt dune]

is AD really in a different font?

[dull marsh]

Just comparing the 2 O's I'd say yes

[unkempt dune]

ah, I didn't realize you were talking about in that way

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glamour_(presentation)

[unkempt dune]

Rhodes is connected to Aegean, and Death by Rhodents is behind Glamora

[dull marsh]

A thing I saw the other day is that the Aegean sea was called "Archipelagos" (as a noun), and because it has many islands it gave the word archipelagos itself

[unkempt dune]

many islands, many lands, many maps?

[dull marsh]

what

what do you mean? XD

[unkempt dune]

just saying it could be a clue for something like multiple maps

[snow walrus]

This is interesting
https://www.britannica.com/science/morula

[crisp eagle]

https://www.glamora.it/en/special-editions/divina-collection/concept

this freaked me out

[unkempt dune]

it's possible Dragon Constellation Studios (Draco) is a clue to the casino signs for the first password #1204475718747029535 message

[dull marsh]

in which way?

[unkempt dune]

me or pib?

[dull marsh]

you 😄

[unkempt dune]

the link explains the Draco aspect, but the 1 night 3 dawns do form a Draco-like shape:

[dull marsh]

hmm

[snow walrus]

When the blastomere count reaches to 16 zygote is called morula

[unkempt dune]

there's the constellation on Las Vegas and the whole stargazing aspect, which could involve the middle stage, which is where that potential draco constellation would be

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleavage_(embryo)#Mammals

[crisp eagle]

we do ge the word GAZE starting with GLAMORA going clockwise and taking the firs letter of each casino. I tried it as a password a while back, but it could still be a little nod that it's a spot meant for gazing

[dull marsh]

yeah gaze always triggers me a bit with ASCONCE and the 👀 emoji and Master Oogway's eyes thingy

[crisp eagle]

no accidents. ever

[austere rover]

Remember that blueprint for the heist? That looks like the shape the path took
*the constellation, that is

[unkempt dune]

and somehow the constellation is connected to the monkeys (asconce) 😮‍💨

[crisp eagle]

Wait why asconce with consellation?

[unkempt dune]

Because that's what the monkeys spell

[crisp eagle]

no I mean what would constellations have to do with the monkeys

my brain is failing

[unkempt dune]

"guide you" was referring to guiding us with finding the monkeys on Monaco

It'd be fitting for said constellation to be one of the reasons why asconce was a part of the level 3 activation if it's connected to one of the passwords

[dull marsh]

hmm, idk I see this a bit backward tho

why would he tell us there's a constellation to find the 3HM as a clue for that constellation?

[austere rover]

Wait.. If he said the constellation is there to guide you, I know at night you can actually see constellations from somewhere in Vegas. Maybe the orientation of the constellation is to guide us on where to start the heist?

[unkempt dune]

the level 3 activation wasn't always a part of the plan I think

It seemed to be added to the hunt during/after S1

since we didn't even have all the monkeys when the game came out. They were added at a later time.

[dull marsh]

we've looked quite a bit at the sky on Vegas during Steal the Spotlight, iirc we managed to narrow down an exact date and time and place for it, I think it was the south pole, the date was determined from the moon itself, tho it's not unlikely that they just placed a random moon and called it a day lol

[dull marsh]

sure but if the constellation was where the 3HM were leading then he would never have told us about it

[unkempt dune]

on the topic of Draco, it does look like a backwards S and we do have 19 (S) rivets on the Black Knight helmet

[sharp flame]

this one is annoying

to find the original colour

[dull marsh]

my gut feeling tells me #887320 would be the correct one as it's the most common one in the list

it's a jpg so the variations are to be expected

[sharp flame]

in RGB: 136, 115, 32

aka 1361 1532

or: 1391 1434

or: 1381 1535

[dull marsh]

what why

[sharp flame]

or: 1371 1434

[dull marsh]

how do the digits change? XD

oh with the other values

[sharp flame]

just turning them into RGB values

then cutting up the values

[hard current]

iirc isn't "serpens" spelled out on the side of zaraby

or is it another casino

[sharp flame]

1361 1532
1391 1434
1381 1535
1371 1434
1371 1633
1371 1436
1401 1535
1351 1735

@dull marsh I think it's a strong possibility to be one of these ^

because they look like year pairings and are quite close to each other in year

especially ones like 1391-1434

or 1371-1434

such as this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_de_la_Pole

[dull marsh]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Baynard

Richard Baynard (c. 1371 – 7 January 1434)

[sharp flame]

but the uncertainty of the clue means we may not dig deep enough into any of the names to find a connection.. arghh

[dull marsh]

This guy could be interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He

1371–1433/1435

Reminds me a bit of Zhang Qian which basically opened the silk road around the 2nd century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Qian

(as in, both were somewhat explorers, although Zhang Qian was more of an envoy from what I understand)

[sharp flame]

also this just being a complete mystery

[solid jay]

There's literally a star in this image upon which to gaze.

And maybe the constellation is not in the sky.

Maybe it is the lights on one of the signs.

[austere rover]

That could be true.. One of the buildings does have a star on it, which someone found you can remove, which then dimms some lights on the sign

I just noticed looking back on some screenshots that the arena clock is red in Vegas at night?? From what I remember the arena timer overhead has always been in white numbers, not red numbers 🤷🏼‍♂️

[crisp eagle]

This. Drives. Me. Insane.

[sharp flame]

Ah, I reckon it's just a matter of time

Some transformation will make it readable I'm sure

[crisp eagle]

I bet sticking with the theme will be huge. Once we pin down 100% what it is. Like the letters in Poweris. Once we got the Caedmon/st Andrew’s church theme, it was clearly the street intersection

[solid jay]

Oh you can remove it? Interesting

[crisp eagle]

The last character is zero, right

[sharp flame]

Yeah

[crisp eagle]

It’s a group of 16

Just thinking out loud

[austere rover]

Wait, huh?? "DIT DAH DIT"?
Who and how did they use that to get this

[crisp eagle]

I don’t remember who, but they just overlaid the images and turned down opacity I believe

Too right shows the DIT DAH DIT

[austere rover]

So.. Where does '812a369f6ccfed0' come in?

[gloomy anvil]

It's the name of the Vaiiya image

[solid jay]

Hey quick question did we ever figure out this gif? #easter-eggs message

[crisp eagle]

Ohhh my bad. Yea what Raid said

[hard current]

pretty sure this one was a clue to "turning around" in order to see the 3HM

for asconce in level 2

[unkempt dune]

you can get LED from 812a369f6ccfecd0:

1. Hex to Decimal:
129 42 54 159 108 207 236 208

2. Get the sum of the numbers:
1143

3. Convert the numbers to letters (A1-Z26):
KDC from 11 4 3

4. Do a caesar shift of 1:
LED

kind of reminds of L.E.Demon

[solid jay]

Ahh okay that makes sense

[crisp eagle]

So our first Dissun image gave us Caedmon (old English) followed by the VAIIYA image with a William the Conqueror clue, who is responsible for introducing French to England and shaping old English.

Then back to Caedmon again with the following image being our second Dissun

English to French to English again just like what happened to England. Simone Wiel is even in the VAIIYA image. Maybe there’s a French theme in there we are missing?

[rigid adder]

Reading some of theses messages like reading about the assets of the Black Whole haha

Great job I guess

[silk wolf]

My magic 8 ball says we will hit new grounds this week

[surreal sinew]

isint that the same thing from ceademons church window

[surreal sinew]

i think that was waterdance reading twitch chat

[surreal sinew]

im thinking we just need to start putting in all the text thats colorfull into the levels as codes

do we know if the ee avalible on old vegas or new vegas (fallout refrance XD) or both of them

[surreal sinew]

and the hologram points up towards the sky (stars?)

[surreal sinew]

wait can you explain what all these numbers are about and the pixels im a bit outta of the loop here i think 😅

is there any specificy casing for the codes like do upper case lower case matter

[sharp flame]

They used subtract mode between the two images. However I don't think that was strictly necessary

[sharp flame]

These pixels are hidden in the VAIIYA image and have respective lengths of 3, 5, 7. The colour of each of these pixels SHOULD be the same value, but jpg compression means they aren't. So I colour-picked every pixel separately since it was likely that one of them should be the right colour. One of the pixels is #887320, one is #8b7222, etc.

[surreal sinew]

so your trying to figure out which one is correct

[sharp flame]

The exact original colour of the pixels is important since it's likely a clue yeah

[surreal sinew]

but how would it be a clue

i understand that it very well might be but how

(ig maybe its encoded with hex or smth)

[sharp flame]

The colour is a number, and we already have a crap ton of clues which are simply 6-or-so-digit numbers

Right next to this clue in the same image was the 3 squares which had the colour #160704 which was a clue for April 1607

[surreal sinew]

(thanks for not saying the unfunny number)

[sharp flame]

I had to delete it as I typed 😭

[surreal sinew]

can we please leave that in 2025 its so dogshit

i mean 69 was funny cus its random but i cant even count to 10 without some random kid yelling

[surreal sinew]

have you tried putting all the diffrent color values through smth like hex and seeing if anything seems usable or just googling all the results and seeing if anything pops up

[crisp eagle]

If you’re referring to the password thing that Rob was talking about in that clip, it’s for sure on original Vegas. Not sure about Vegas Stadium since a lot changes. But they were playing original in that clip, and it was taken way before the rework on the map.

[surreal sinew]

wait what was taken away before the rework

[crisp eagle]

The clip. If that’s what you were asking about

Where Rob says there’s four letters that make up a password

[surreal sinew]

was the clip taken away? (i might be stupid)

[velvet narwhal]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/ColdHorriblePrariedogKappaPride-rELVjIqfGTvCmLZQ

[crisp eagle]

No it’s still there. It was put in here again recently and helped kick off these recent discussions towards Vegas. I thought that might be what you were asking about

[surreal sinew]

wait what was taken away im so confused (im definatly stupid)

[crisp eagle]

I didn’t say taken away. I said “taken way before”

The clip was taken way before Vegas was changed

[surreal sinew]

Ooooh yeah I am dumb lol

[unkempt dune]

I was just thinking about it, but there's 6 lines coming from the Glamora sign.

[unkempt dune]

These two clips are 12 days after the Las Vegas password clues clips #easter-eggs message

https://clips.twitch.tv/ApatheticCrackyHummingbirdCharlieBitMe-UKneV9pm2ZnDoglM

rob: So you can fill in the following codes on Level 3: X Y double R one X two

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/WealthyFilthyDotterelDxAbomb-8iY2N-kvaozsyV5w

rob: I'm not lying, I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I love goats and- exactly. If you look at the- If you look- uh- If you look at the password, it's not very hard to figure out. It has RR in the middle. I mean come on seriously it's not that hard.

it definitely sounds like XY RR 1X2 are "codes" that are meant to be replaced/subtituted

[fresh quiver]

for me it smh still sounds a bit like mathematical variables for a equation...

[surreal sinew]

i mean cant it be litterally RR in the code

[unkempt dune]

Another thought is "goat" can be an anagram for "toga"

[surreal sinew]

something like KRRT (karl RR Tinus) from the karl rupertins hint

[surreal sinew]

i wonder if there is text or clue hidden inside the lights being on or off in the backround there

[crisp eagle]

Yea so ya’ll mean the X and Y need replacing. The RR in the middle stays there

With him saying the password has rr in the middle that makes me think only the rest is a “code” that needs replaced

[surreal sinew]

yeah probably but is the X in the 1X2 is it the same X as the XY or is it X as in multiply

[crisp eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/theworldmayneverknow-idk-goodquestion-gif-5415227

[surreal sinew]

no we will figure it out

we have to (we just need more people to help out)

anybody know what happend tom i feel like this would be a spot he would do good with

@dusk siren we need you buddy

[fresh quiver]

1X2 = 1x² = x² ? 😂

[surreal sinew]

yeah ik its the same but who knows maybe he wants that or its a hint who knows

[white patrol]

when did they add this?

[gloomy anvil]

the sponsor info is new this season

[white patrol]

I don't remeber this at start of season, probably missed it :3

[mellow wasp]

Does anyone know when Ursa was added?

[white patrol]

last patch of last season IIRC

[mellow wasp]

Accord
Ing to CEO Anna Delmar nov 16th update 8.11.0 so I believe your correct if what im thinking pans out this may be important but maybe not.

[velvet narwhal]

the trentila one is interesting. It talks about them having labs in orbit

[white patrol]

hmmmm

[crisp eagle]

With the new Dissun discoveries and us thinking each sponsor has a theme in L3, I’m wondering if that leaves the S5 KeyArt and from_embark__with___love as “keys”

Meaning they tell us how to use the themes?

[surreal sinew]

oh yeah thats a good idea ngl

we should take a look into it more but isint dissun meant to be the main focus right now

[crisp eagle]

I’m not really sure what is, if there is a singular main focus. The argument could be made we should wait for CNS images too now with Rob changing his sponsor

[surreal sinew]

on the miro board its not the original keyart right it has stuff removed what if we didint do that

[crisp eagle]

It is the original. It was given as a PS file, so folks removed layers to find things easier

It was a direct nudge from Rob randomly one day to look at that image provided by them for creators

[solid jay]

Hoping this has been pointed out.😂

from_embark__with___love
1, 2, 3

[crisp eagle]

It’s odd to me that Poweris_Poweris_Poweris doesn’t have a 123 clue.

[surreal sinew]

hmmm or we havent found it yet

[fresh quiver]

IWEWHOTWOTHREE

[unkempt dune]

I'd say part of the clue from IWEWHOTWOTHREE is that ONE is missing. Since presumably the Dissun images are connected to Europe (1)

[surreal sinew]

https://archive.reading.ac.uk/news-events/2009/February/pr19825.html @fresh quiver here it is

"Scientists at the University of Reading have discovered that 'I', 'we', 'who' and the numbers '1', '2' and '3' are amongst the oldest words, not only in English, but across all Indo-European languages. What's more, words like 'squeeze', 'guts', 'stick', 'throw' and 'dirty' look like they are heading for history's dustbin – along with a host of others."

here it includes 1

[crisp eagle]

I’m also still chewing on whether Caedmon or St Andrew’s church is the “target.” First Dissun image had the window along with the church intersection. Second Dissun image gave us Caedmon’s face and name. Either it was just more clues to solidify St Andrew’s, or it was narrowing down and zooming in on Caedmon

I’m leaning more towards Caedmon, personally. First Dissun could have been telling us to find the church at that intersection and look under the window. Which is where his image is. Then second Dissun confirms it’s the man on the left of the stained glass at St Andrew’s (Caedmon). That and the recently mentioned I, We, Who, 1, 2, 3 clues. They can point to early language. Caedmon points to early poetry.

[unkempt dune]

It's probably a combination of Caedmon and at least Europe since that's where the church is located

[crisp eagle]

Yea I just avoided the Europe theme since I assumed we all knew it was a baseline theme haha

I think the missing 1 like you mentioned, and the Lost in Space launch date confirm that one pretty hard. Like Fish mentioned a while back:
lost in space->Jupiter II->Europa-> naming of Europe

[hard current]

I’m 90% sure that it lead us to the church, not to Caedmon all the clues we got pointed to aspects of the church not to Caedmon

My guess is that as of this moment the investigation into the church is dead, we need to look at CNS stuff now

We have the where

[surreal sinew]

i dont think we need to do cns il be honest since he said he changed to cns since we now know where we neet to keep diging

yeah he said it here

[hard current]

Yeah… as in, his badge was pointing us to DISSUN images and clues.. and now CNS

He even said it’s time for the CNS phase

[crisp eagle]

You’re probably right. But I wouldn’t say all aspects point to the church. We have his name as a clue, and I believe (haven’t proven) the broken up letter-looking pieces in powe_i_powe are from his only surviving poem

Been slowly trying to see if I can overlay it somehow, but I’ve only had a chance to spend like 5 minutes on looking

That could still, arguably ultimately point to the church though

I also wonder if the CNS phase could be the VAIIY image. With those two being enemies, and Rob being CNS 4 Life, we could still have stuff there. And maybe if Rob is about to drop CNS art with clues, they might tie in with VAIIYA art.

[fresh quiver]

hm. just dove in again at the church.
The Stained-Glass is probably from Heaton, Butler and Bayne.

Heaton, Butler and Bayne worked alongside "Clayton and Bell"
funny enough you could also connect "Bayne" to our hunt.
read "bayne" as "bane" and you can connect it to "Dark knight"

[surreal sinew]

no he said hes going to refresh himself on it since we took so long lol

[unborn pilot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-123

caught my eye to see STS, 123, Elvis and Caedmon on same page but doubt it’s leading here.

[unborn pilot]

First English words and first English poet gotta have some connection 🤔

ONE missing here
one name missing from movie Missing 😆

It’s all clearly pointing to something.

[solid jay]

Was this the refurbished glass? The originals were destroyed during the war IIRC.

[solid jay]

1 missing could mean 1 missing continent. Correct me if I am wrong, but the dates preceded the discovery of NA.

The passwords for this tier seem to be related to the clues from their respective images each pointing to a continent.

[fresh quiver]

Bayne later joined "Clayton and Bell".
After the deaths of Alfred Bell in 1895 and John Richard Clayton in 1913, the firm continued under Bell's son, John Clement Bell (1860-1944), then under Reginald Otto Bell (1884-1950) and lastly Michael Farrar-Bell (1911 - 1993) until his death

[fresh quiver]

mayyyybeeee?

Ludo mentioned Kibo months ago.
Space Blanket connection page, there is the ISS Harmony Module (Node 2)
its connected to Node 1 (from STS-88) and connects to 3 other labs. Destiny, Columbus and Kibo

CNS can also mean College of Natural Sciences apparently

[eternal violet]

also 2008

[fresh quiver]

CNS also stands for Communications, Navigation and Surveillance in Aviation.
in theory GPS also falls under Navigation of CNS

[fresh quiver]

also the rack of Kibo are placed in a 6-6-6-5 format.
and we got 666 sometime in L2 T3 as one of the backgrounds rgb colors

[unborn pilot]

That’s interesting.

[unborn pilot]

We also had 666 as the crosses in three different colors

Twice I think

[unborn pilot]

Also kind of random Dissun & Cædmon are both six letters so that’s two sixes what’s our third

[crisp eagle]

Andrew

[unborn pilot]

And last 3 letters do end in Sun, Mon….

Sunday is the first day of the week. Monday.

[dull marsh]

I agree with some ideas here, I think the target of the whole Caedmon is either:

• His hymn (most obvious, maybe too obvious?)
• Whitby
• St Andrew church

[dull marsh]

poweris (1)
poweris (2)
poweris (3)?

[unborn pilot]

Well, to me that is just missing the word power three times. So three powers. Or to the power of three.

[crisp eagle]

Dumb thought: with r missing from powe_i_powe, I and we show up haha

[fresh quiver]

im taking this again...

Just a thought...
NASA Had wake up calls.
one of this wake up calls was "**Walk trough the ** Black Forest"
The Black Forest is a "National-park

Funny enough the Black Forest is in Baden Württemberg

[crisp eagle]

I also wonder if it’s three times for that reason. But why Poweris as a word? Prowess nod?

[dull marsh]

I'm starting to notice that a lot of those titles, plus the version of IWEWHOTWOTHREE are all "missing" some letters

(we also has missing as a clue)

What if the passwords are simple but we need to remove key letters?

[fresh quiver]

X is also used when letters or numbers are missing

[fresh quiver]

Could be a point of reference for sure

[unborn pilot]

I said that forever ago and I’ve been using it for my passwords i try

1 = i, 2 = r, 3 = e likely a new twist now with 1 i missing instead of only 0 null

[fresh quiver]

There are only 12 Castles in the Black Forest

I somehow think it might the Hohenzollern IF it is in the Black Forest like I suspect.
It was rebuilt 2 times so at all it was build three times

[dull marsh]

Lol, "Ire" a town in Oye, Nigeria 😂 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ire

[unborn pilot]

oye & yO come back every once in a while

If this isn’t the middle password then it’s gotta either have that XY or 1X2 in it then. Only thing i can think is that 1X2 could be IXR.

That’s assuming X doesn’t change through

[solid jay]

this assumes we aren't counting form a 0 based index, otherwise sunday is day 0 and saturday day 6

[solid jay]

What about 3 things relating to Caedmon that could be our 3 passwords for the MW.Area2 passwords?

[crisp eagle]

Another Trinity College Cambridge grad is Arthur Bloomfield. The architect for St Andrew’s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Blomfield

We only know about Caedmon because of the writing of Bede. Bede is known as “the father of English history” which I find interesting since we also have Herodotus “the father of history”

[dull marsh]

In the N16 church there is a plate for this George Daniels who made stained glass and cartoons (not to be confused with a famous Watch maker) https://www.sworder.co.uk/news/the-george-daniels-collection/

[austere rover]

Might explain why SYS is seemingly at a campus or similarly structured area somewhere

[fresh quiver]

CNS = Catalogue of Nearby Stars
example: Gai Catalogue of Nearby Stars = GCNS

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2023A%26A...670A..19G/abstract

thats CNS5

[hard forge]

Password soon. you got it hunters. OYE

[gloomy anvil]

The first Dissun image pointed to the church and its window(s).

We didn't get those, so I can imagine Rob using the second image to narrow it down: two clues for Caedmon directly, his name and face.

Also, we know that the St Andrew's window is the first image on Caedmon's Wikipedia page, and that it's surprisingly difficult to find that window by researching the church itself.

So I would hazard a guess that Rob was researching Caedmon first, saw the window, and decided to use the church as a clue trail there.

But we can't know what Rob was thinking, and Dunsmure has come up as a later clue, so idk.

[fresh quiver]

The first version of the Catalogue of Nearby Stars (CNS1) was published by Gliese (1957);
it contained 1094 stars (915 systems) within 20 pc.

The subsequent update of the catalogue (CNS2) expanded the coverage to 22.2 pc and contained 1627 stars in 1313 systems (Gliese 1969).

[fresh quiver]

i mean... people are starting to DIG again

[surreal sinew]

We really need to find the namas ngl

[fading vigil]

1064 was a lvl1 password, isn’t it ?

[fresh quiver]

L2, but yes.

but you are right.
In theory you could turn the 9 around to make a 6. and then you would get 1064

[fading vigil]

Oh, I saw 1064 there, not 1094(
My eyes like LLM now - showing desired instead of real:(

[sharp flame]

let's do this!

[dull marsh]

To dig is to remove solid material from a surface.
I can still hear him say that we're only scratching the surface... 🤔

[gloomy anvil]

This is probably stupid but St Andrew's N16 is between Bethune Road, Cranwich Road, and Dunsmure Road, which you could look at as B,C,D - with A (1) missing.

[dull marsh]

Hmm 🤔 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dig_(video_game)

[crisp eagle]

I do still think about this a lot. I want to know if the Gold Namas give clues to L3 passwords, or the other way around

[crisp eagle]

point and click again, you say. I forgot about that one

[dull marsh]

And made by LucasArt

It has asteroid, Attila the Hun (conqueror), space shuttle Atlantis

[crisp eagle]

Sean Clark was a designer on it. here are some of his others...

[dull marsh]

The moment we'll solve the ''coordinates'' is the moment we'll find a password

[sharp flame]

sorry for kinda doing my own thing here, I have some more ideas about how to break down our current Level 3 clues

[solid jay]

Don't apologize we need ideas lol

[sharp flame]

It seems each Sponsor (linked to a continent) in Level 3 also has another "hidden meaning"

that we have to get to the bottom of

For example. ISEUL-T, = Asia, of course, but the Silk Road angle will most likely lead to its' own password

in the same structure, VAIIYA = NA, and, for now, we have "null/emptiness" as our pin

then we have DISSUN = EU, and we have CAEDMON's Poetry, the first ever English verse, as well as I WE WHO TWO THREE, the 5 earliest English Words... which intrigues me the most

each of these threads is distinctly linked to their respective Continent, for some reason

[dull marsh]

I WE WHO ONE TWO THREE are the first words in human language, not in english

(and ONE is in the list, only omitted as a clue)

[sharp flame]

ONE isn't there, no

[dull marsh]

It could be pointing at the origin of english language, but it could also be a broader clue

[sharp flame]

we have fumbled around similar sites for a while now

however I'm trying to pin down the actual study by the University of Reading

it seems to have been taken down? that's why the quoting is inconclusive

[sharp flame]

I just want the truth - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7911645.stm
This site for example claims that "two" and "three" are in there, while "one" is actually slightly younger