easter-eggs

[dusk siren]

• Borromean rings (trinity) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borromean_rings

[ripe axle]

No that's not it

it' just a player voice line

When you get lockbolted or trapped by a gravity well, something like that

I do not think the dummies have unique voice lines

[dusk siren]

Were these ever connected and explored by people?

[rugged breach]

Not to my recollection but there is some progress on the bigfoot ee made over at https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1334548677636788234, though it's focused on the picture we got

[dusk siren]

I just thought I remembered one of the people who noticed the shoe prints saying they were "too big" to have been made by a player. But I could be misremembering.

[ashen hill]

anyone talked about this yet? I know it wasnt here before last update

[dusk siren]

Re: Hydra and Eggs

From the table of contents (I included "M-Pire Maps" because I always think back to the apparent NYC map clues)

Totally weird Martin Gardner article on "egg balancing" https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/1996/05/22165043/p08.pdf

Concludes with a reference to Piet Hein's "superegg" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superegg

Also, strange and discussed in the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus
* A little rabbit-holey, so will stop here unless we get some confirmation on this direction.

A little piscis vesica sighting, so had to post one more. Touches on chirality, as well.

[fading vigil]

I think it was mentioned and obvious a long time ago, but I want to say it again:
Nama Tama:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamagotchi

Nama means “raw” or “fresh” (if I googled it correctly)

But from Indonesian its “first name”

[white patrol]

Tamagotchi!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/747245673631449109.webp?size=48

my beloved

[naive rover]

Hello Easter egg hunters, how is the hunt for level 3 going

[white patrol]

which language did you use to search it 8? I don't see a translation for raw just googled it

[white patrol]

I'll give you one hint

[fading vigil]

English to Japanese

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1140256930741362698.webp?size=48

[fading vigil]

Because of tamagotchi is Japanese

[gloomy anvil]

Hello, we are looking for two more golden Nama Tamas hidden in the game we also suspect those Namas can be used for the passwords somehow

[sharp flame]

Nama Tamago means raw egg, I believe that's the origin of the name!

[fading vigil]

Nama tama goooooooo

[white patrol]

icic! thanks 8!

[lyric stratus]

https://medal.tv/games/the-finals/clips/km0mvuJjAMlAxLWrk?invite=cr-MSxCQWUsMzIwMDQ3Nzg2

the fuckk is HYDRA_Q.JPEG

[white patrol]

it's a @sharp flame reference dev added

[sharp flame]

It's appeared on multiple billboards as-of the latest patch!

[lyric stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-say-frowning-coffee-gif-14597430

[naive rover]

Ok, hmm intresting

[sharp flame]

on the square billboards it also says
HYDRA_Q_LOGO.JPEG

meaning HYDRA Q has a logo

[naive rover]

Ok, go

[white patrol]

#easter-eggs message
this

[lyric stratus]

what IS hydra q

[naive rover]

Lol

[white patrol]

it is at least a rose hint

don't know much about it

rose will be gone in S7 and comeback btw

[lyric stratus]

i thought it was gon forever

*to be

[white patrol]

so I think it's next season teaser + lore related + rose EE

[white patrol]

no it will come back

20 years of planning and rob just kill it? it's illogical

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/747245673631449109.webp?size=48

[lyric stratus]

where proof

[dusk siren]

Just to round out the most evocative Martin Gardner titles for anyone who wants to explore (limited to his books on Amazon):

• Origami, Eleusis, and the Soma Cube
• Optical Illusion Play Pack
• Space Puzzles: Curious questions and Answers about the solar system
• The Relativity Explosion: a non-mathematical discussion of Einstein's relativity theory
• Riddles of the Sphinx and Other Mathematical Puzzle Tales
• The No-Sided Professor: Light, entertaining stories relating to mathematics, chess, science, etc.
• Logic Machines and Diagrams (may include a discussion of the Alberti cipher, see below)
• Are Universes Thicker Than Blackberries?: Discourses on Godel, Magic Hexagrams, Little Red Riding Hood, and Other Mathematical and Pseudoscientific Topics
• The Ambidextrous Universe: Mirror Asymmetry and Time-Reversed Worlds
• Puzzles from Other Worlds: Thirty-seven science fiction tales, each featuring a puzzle by a master puzzle-maker

[white patrol]

one of water dance's recent stream, can't find the clip :c

[lyric stratus]

ok fair enough

[white patrol]

they are playing on fortune stadium and rob talked about rose EE

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1341374199020785725.webp?size=48

[dusk siren]

Re: 123 ABC; xyRR1x2
Struck by the fact that the outer circle of an Alberti cipher explicitly features 1 2 3 (though, traditionally, also 4).
https://www.dcode.fr/alberti-cipher

[lyric stratus]

my irl reaction after "talked about rose EE"

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/777910442541711371.webp?size=48

[lyric stratus]

"oh no i forgot this really important thing but its no biggie"

i mean rob is practically trolling at this point with the "lots of hints" he says

now im guessing this HYDRA_Q thing is basically a "open air" hint

or another rabbit hole

oh god i hope im not self-convincing to dig with a shovel again

[fading vigil]

All hints are obvious when you know where they lead

When lvl3 will be solved - we will laugh ourselves of tons of false theories here

But I’m worried what we will face when lvl4 arrive…

[lyric stratus]

if lvl3 is this hard...

oh god

[fading vigil]

Hope it will be less obscured but maybe with less clues

Basically , I think, we will know A LOT of Rob’s mechanics how to ee

Or if he is a real mad hatter..
We are doomed 🙂

[sharp flame]

Since it has a logo it might be a sponsor, or hacker group like CNS

[gloomy anvil]

laugh or cry?

[fading vigil]

Panic laugh is beyond crying)

https://attack.mitre.org/software/S0203/

A bit about hydraq Trojan

System network configuration
Snc-> cns

[sharp flame]

I had a tangent a while ago about Vega. Rob confirmed it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Vega_(1872)

[fading vigil]

HydraQ (aka 9002 RAT aka McRAT aka Naid)

[sharp flame]

This might be why Rob included it in the first place:
.. during the Vega expedition.. ..the successful expedition is considered to be among the highest achievements in the history of Swedish science.

Which has a massive connection to Sven Hedin's Wiki Page ^^

[lyric stratus]

HOW DARE YE ASSUME ROB ALMIGHTY HATES THE EASTER EGG COMMUNITY

[fading vigil]

It’s not a question about hate of ee community
It’s a question about what he loves more: create ridiculously obscured ee’s or solved ee’s

[lyric stratus]

id recon both were all blind

[sharp flame]

Had another brainwave about Level 3

There are about 4 "Hexadecimal" clues. We don't know what they mean yet

[fading vigil]

But if we talk serious, I’m a bit jealous of Rob, he participated in the greatest times of the free internet

[sharp flame]

BUT
Level 2's naming scheme, 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F 2ABC 2DEF

that is Hex

that is valid hexadecimal, it stops at F

maybe the Hex clues are pointing us at Level 2's tiers again? Or maybe Level 2's tiers were secretly supposed to be used as Hex the whole time?!

[gloomy anvil]

I was just thinking about the hex clues a moment ago and couldn't work out how they fit. That's a good observation.

[fading vigil]

Tried hex->binary->decimal->ascii not readable 😦

[sharp flame]

Either that, or Hex is a reference to the naming of the Level 3 passwords

1A 1B 1C, 2A 2B 2C, 3A 3B, 3C

not sure why he'd emphasize Hex so much

[fading vigil]

More readable than binary

Did we tried read art in hex?

[sharp flame]

OMG

This clue

I was looking at the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecimal#Verbal_and_digital_representations

and look at the paragraph at the bottom.

---

You can use Morse -> Binary, where Dit = 0 and Dah = 1

Dit Dah Dit = 010

---

and guess what

---

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/010_Editor

010 is a common Hex Editor

[dusk siren]

Oooh... I like this

I think we've had at least one bathymetry post previously

ocean visualization makes me think of where some of the geographic coordinates led us

Also, a potential Hex and tree association.

[sharp flame]

I think Hex being a 5-timer clue is big

[sharp flame]

as big as the "thirds" aspect

so we have "Hexadecimal" and we have "thirds"

[fading vigil]

We also had alpha-beta on art

We def need to try art in hex

[dusk siren]

"On the subject of early Computer Hex, notable early implementations include Dolphin Microware's Hexmaster, published in the early 1980s for Atari 8-bit computers."
EDIT: lol... as is so often the case, ludo mentioned this before

[lyric stratus]

ASCII --> text translation

[dusk siren]

so something like this would be used for "hacking" and "cracking"?

[dusk siren]

Re: the 010 Editor, which can be used to edit "tagged data (e.g. XML, HTML)"
I've been meaning to post about "Masterplan Markup" and "markup languages."
Isn't "markup" a somewhat odd choice of words, even if it helped with the alliteration?

[sharp flame]

I think it was more a reference to Hexadecimal, in general, but interesting to see where you connect this

[dusk siren]

Just when Rob was making those "back to basics" and "get cracking" comments, iirc

Whether those were early pointers to "hex" being the important clue, I have no idea

[dusk siren]

That 010 Editor find was sick, though 🙂

Probably looked at from the very start (also, I don't see how it would help), but perhaps some letter (e.g., g) or number (e.g., 5)?

[dusk siren]

long shot but if a clue, it would have a lot of potential (no pun intended)
Westinghouse?

[dusk siren]

Many clues have been pointing to "HEX", though we don't know if that is intended to point further on.
People have put forth many ideas related to "hex" as pertains to 6, but if people haven't already dug around on the "curse" meaning, perhaps worth a shot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse
* "Hex" in this sense redirects to "Curse" in wikipedia

As a plot device (for example)

Another variant meaning

[gloomy anvil]

could the clue "I WE WHO TWO THREE" be seen as using I for both the letter and the number 1? like this

[white patrol]

Roman numeral?

[gloomy anvil]

I was thinking I as leet for 1 but good point it's also the numeral for it

oh I forgot that "two" and "three" are listed alongside "I we who" in the 2009 study, so their inclusion in this clue isn't unexpected.

still, they probably have an alternative meaning, unless the clue only points to the study itself, which doesn't seem very likely.

that said, if Rob saw us going down a bunch of rabbit holes with "I we who" (after we got it for the first time), he could've added this additional clue to point us back in the direction of the "first three" theme and 123

[dusk siren]

UF6 (hex): Uranus reference, yellowcake association, fission-splitting-cracking, keep it basic (atomic level), Lewis acid, nuclear power, nuclear weapons, extinction risks, Manhattan Project, Alfa Acta silo, potential 92 (U) image reference?

[gloomy anvil]

perhaps this could line up like so

• December: Rob posts the S5 keyart with the "I WE WHO" clue
• January 22: Rob says "so sad that they didn't find the thing yet, because now we need to push that again" #1292576119849095210 message
• January 24: Rob posts the DISSUN art with the "I WE WHO TWO THREE" clue

[dusk siren]

Is your assessment that it really narrowed the search to that idea of "oldest words"?

not exactly accurate, but roughly indicating the invention (or "dawn") of language?

[gloomy anvil]

I'm not sure. If I had to bet I'd bet on it being another 123 clue. The only other thing I find notable about the research is that it was published on June 1st 2009 (1/6), but that can easily be a coincidence.

The whole article is paywalled so it's very unlikely we need to scour its actual content for anything.

[dusk siren]

I'm still bothered that XYRR = KLEE with a perfect 13 Caesar shift.
I've tried a lot of random stuff with "1X2," but all the interesting things that came out did not line up with a 13 Caesar shift (and if they did, it would mean 1X2 --> ?K?, and that doesn't seem great). XYRR = KLEE could easily be a dead end, but if anyone has any ideas of how to deal with 1X2, it might still be something. I just don't see how to justify doing different shifts on "XYRR" and "1X2," even if that might yield something.

If the second X doesn't have to match the first X, I would be more comfortable breaking that up and considering "1X2" as a date... e.g., 1922. But I'd be backsolving from Klee's life at that point.

Mathematician Victor Klee's wikipedia entry itself is relatively sparse. He won some interesting awards in years ending in 2 (Alfred P. Sloan Fellowship (1972), Guggenheim Fellowship (1972), Max Planck Research Award (1992)), but the most notable mathematical result I found was the Klee-Minty cube (1972). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klee–Minty_cube

Artist Paul Klee's wikipedia entry also offers some references to years ending in 2.
Travels to Paris and exposure to Cubism and "pure painting" (1912). Lectures at the Bauhaus (1922). Twittering Machine (1922). Affected Place (1922), Ad Parnassum, see also Mount Parnassus (1932).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_Parnassum

[river flame]

I feel like the gold egg in Monaco is part of level 3

[dusk siren]

I think that's starting to be the consensus... need to find the other 2, as well

[river flame]

This is so convoluted

[dusk siren]

Doesn't lessen the convolution (in fact, one could argue that convolution is the point), but I, personally, need the Miro (something visual) when I get lost.
If you haven't checked it out, yet, it might help that feeling, if I understand your sentiment. https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVK0idxbU=/

[river flame]

Thanks

[dusk siren]

There is a row of images in the Level 3 section with a bunch of unsolved clues listed. If you could crack any of them, it would be huge. No pressure. 😅

But feel free to roam around. Lots of unsolved clues from other parts of the hunt, some going back to the beginning, I imagine.

[vagrant mauve]

I mean Rob outright confirmed it the other day

[dusk siren]

Yeah, I know... was just trying to put it diplomatically 🙂

[dusk siren]

Stopping here before going too rabbit holey, but if, in XYRR1X2, the second X = 92 and it's a uranium reference, these are the two Klee paintings from 1922 that were highlighted.
(If X = 93, then neptunium, and back to Ad Parnassus (1932).)

[peak ibex]

You think there’s anything else related to Rene Descartes I know he was a small part of one of the answers in a previous level, but there’s a whole skin dedicated to him.

[dusk siren]

I definitely do. If you search the easter-egg thread, I wonder how many posts. A bet more than a few.

[peak ibex]

There are quite a few posts haha. I wonder if there’s a lot of reference to him(Merc skin, golden Nama) as a tribute. The Cartesian coordinate system plays a big role in making gaming what it is today so in a sense we wouldn’t be able to enjoy all these great things without his contributions.

[shadow shore]

Reading what Rob said about the 1, 2, 3... i just thought this?

Like 1. relates to either the vegas Nama, or Vegas in general. Or however they're related, i'm not sure. That's all i really got from his response to @vagrant mauve

[vagrant mauve]

Yeah we've been thinking something along the lines of this. My focus rn is on finding the other two Namas, which we suspect are on Vegas and Seoul, tho really any map is up for grabs

We do have a couple of potential clues you can look in https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1289459770063065088 for those

[low escarp]

#1292576119849095210 message

[white patrol]

I wonder what's the relationship between the three wise monkey and 3 golden Nama Tama:

See no evil: Sunglasses Nama Tama
Hear no evil: Headphone Nama Tama
Speak no evil: Samurai Nama Tama (?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_wise_monkeys

well, the original samurai skin does wear a face mask

Speaking of money, and the number 3
We already have 3 Monkeys (Three Wise Monkey), 3 Rabbits (The Three Hares)

Not sure if we investigated 3 dolphins, so I looked it up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin_Flag

[dull marsh]

In the clip from Twitch from a few weeks ago, Rob says "there are 3 golden namas in the world" and when asked if it's in THE FINALS world or not he doesn't answer

Given that he's confirmed we may have to find stuff IRL for Level 3 I wouldn't be too surprised if he hid one in NA, one in Europe and one in Asia IRL

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/485925505695088683.webp?size=28&animated=true

time to fly to Monaco and blow their church up

[alpine junco]

Uhhhhh

[white patrol]

(is it something offensive?)

[alpine junco]

out of context yeah

[white patrol]

😭 sorry oil, I was joking about finding Nama irl because ludo said we need to geocache

[dull marsh]

I think I think, I'm not sure 😭

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/747245673631449109.webp?size=48

[alpine junco]

No no. No need to be 😅.

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1135304410231230515.webp?size=28&animated=true

if it's in China I can help, I think

[low escarp]

"in the WORLD "
can also be interpreted as real world locations but ingame so not in sky not in fortune but kyoto seoul monaco

[dull marsh]

I think the insistence of clues about 1, 2, 3; NA, EU, Asia; Rob saying Level 3 is all about the 3 namatamas; and him saying there are 3 in "the world" seems like a strong lead 🤔

Plus the background for Level 3 is an IRL world map, not ingame

Now if that's true the question would be:
Do we need the golden namas to find the passwords or the other way around?

I'd say passwords first

[low escarp]

but we clearly dont need the password to find the monaco nama but how could the monaco nama help with a password idk

[shadow shore]

I heard that Rob did say that he put the background (or finishing touches) etc together quickly, so maybe it's just a background?

[dull marsh]

I think the Monaco golden nama is an ingame clue for the hunt

I don't think the Monaco golden nama is one of the 3

[shadow shore]

it's a golden nama tama tho?

[dull marsh]

Yeah but do you see what I mean?

[shadow shore]

nope

[dull marsh]

We KNOW that for level 3 we need to find IRL stuff

[white patrol]

Hmmm I see

I see whatchu mean yeah

possible

[dull marsh]

We KNOW Level 3 is all about the 3 golden namas Rob talks about which are "in the world"

[low escarp]

so the ingame nama is a hint for the real life nama?

[white patrol]

but what about pieces of lost legacy? also hints for the hunt?

[dull marsh]

I would think so honestly

[white patrol]

that explains a lot actually

[shadow shore]

surely Rob wouldn't want us to go out in the real world and search like to intensively?

that would also mean others couldn't partake

[dull marsh]

Well it's not like we had passwords that were literally about "geocache".. 😄

[shadow shore]

tbh i want it to be that, and have an excuse to dig up my neighbours yard but i reckon there may be hints irl on look googs maps or the like

[low escarp]

but then it would make more sense to find the ingames ones as clues to get to the real life eggs to then get password

[dull marsh]

If you have exact coordinates and it's in pretty populated countries, you would be bound to have someone nearby

[white patrol]

trips are expensive, maybe there IS something IRL for us but not Necessary for solving the hunt?

[shadow shore]

but i'm open to anything...i'm getting a shovel

[dull marsh]

Could be also!

[dull marsh]

Start digging, explain later

[shadow shore]

i'm already jumping the fence

[white patrol]

Bury me first, wake me up when S7 or Arc comes out

[shadow shore]

hmm i dunno i'm dying on the hill that there's 3 namas, Ludo found the first one on monaco. The 2nd is Vegas and the last is Kyoto due to the namas outfit

but maybe we should look on those geocache websites too

maybe Robo's dropped in there haha..

[white patrol]

that's also true, it would make more sense if we find it in game

[shadow shore]

i think i get you now... like the in game namas ARE the ones we need to find, but also aren't.

[white patrol]

Eh what if… Lost legacy are hints for the hunt, but not IRL? Like there won't be any golden Nama in game, but it's behind some website

[dull marsh]

Yeah I could see Rob doing that to show us what we're looking for, but imo it was WAY too easy to find ingame for it to me such a big thing in the hunt

[shadow shore]

https://www.geocaching.com/play

wow there's 3,354 geocaches around sydney

[white patrol]

that's true tho.. piet basically dig up the whole map already, unless there's a trigger, I think hmm

[shadow shore]

i'm 20+ hours from there tho

[white patrol]

isn't lvl 3 called the big whoop?

[dull marsh]

But even the Monaco one, I strongly feel like it would have been found before if it was just hanging there all this time

Sure I was looking at that area, but it stood out a little in itself

[white patrol]

you mean rob added that afterwards?

[dull marsh]

Maybe I'm just sniffing copium rn xD

[white patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

we all are

Isn't geocache took inspiration from pirate treasure or something? Maybe I'm tripping, iirc there's a description for the hunt says if I find the big whoop, I become legend pirate or something

but rob won't even let us spend a dime on cosmetics when solving EEs, flight ticket sounds even more ridiculous to do

[dull marsh]

Geocache is just some modern treasure hunt game, big whoop is Monkey Island supposedly treasure (although it's a scam)

[white patrol]

so the big whoop don't exist

[dull marsh]

Well in MI yes 😄

Actually no, it's the gates to hell

[shadow shore]

it was like anti-climactic?

[white patrol]

the whole level three is "the lie" contrary to "the promise"
ok lvl3 solved

[dull marsh]

boom GG over

[white patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[shadow shore]

https://tenor.com/view/fin-gif-5508214

[white patrol]

I really hope those Namas are in game tho, piet basically melee every inch of the maps :c, don't want that go to waste
Rob said something better is going to happen in S7 right? but not relates to the hunt? I guess we will see

[dull marsh]

Time wasted is just part of the hunt hehe

It makes the reward more fun 😄

[white patrol]

Every EE hunter is just masochist, they just don't know it yet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/704665003168366643.webp?size=28&animated=true

[crisp eagle]

I’m at a pow wow this weekend and missing a lot of conversation in here, so if this has already been suggested I’m sorry.
But what if the clues we’ve been getting for level 3 so far aren’t even for a password or passwords, but they are supposed to direct us towards the next golden Nama Tama we’ve gotta find

Ok going back it looks like it’s kinda been talked about. Floof and I have also wondered about Ludo’s idea of Rob hiding them IRL. I could see that being part of it too, but not 100% required to solve level 3. If they are out there IRL I bet they contain clues that are almost on par with a diamond clue.

[low escarp]

what if the cannister ballons are the hydras u cut down one and grow like 5 cannisters

[crisp eagle]

Cube comes from the Ancient Greek word Kybos which was a 6 sided die. Just throwing out things

[gloomy anvil]

The way I see it currently, is that the Golden Namas are in IRL arenas that correspond to each continent (so Monaco EU, Las Vegas NA, Kyoto/Seoul AS). The level 3 passwords are then based on those IRL regions and locations, for example European cathedrals (Pisa, Monaco), and Las Vegas with its rock & roll, gambling, etc.

I think something like that could be all that Rob meant with his IRL places comment. I wouldn't put it past him to hide Nama Tamas IRL, but I think it's very unlikely that us traveling around the world (or convincing someone in some country to search a location for us) would be required to solve level 3. Especially since the other day he said: "I gave you a season to finish level 3".

[gloomy anvil]

It does make sense though, with Level 1 being about Geocaching (telling us how to hunt), and the focus on coordinates. It would be fun too if we had to find a geocache Rob has hidden and registered on the website, but idk how likely it actually is.

[river flame]

I think vegas has new sounds and music

i don't see a significance to it though

[gloomy anvil]

The more I browse the various geocaches in Monaco the more I want it to be true actually, it'd be really cool to find something IRL for the hunt

but I still think the in-game Namas are enough

[crisp eagle]

I think if we were required to find IRL golden eggs, that would risk making people very angry and Rob would know that. Imagine taking vacation days, spending a bunch of money, then just not finding anything.

Maybe he meant in game whenever he said “it’s not called a hunt for no reason.” Since level 1 and 2 we didn’t really have to go anywhere in game to solve them. It could be solved without ever getting in the game. Now we know there’s golden eggs to find, and this portion is in game

[hearty meteor]

hmmmmmmm

[low escarp]

#1292576119849095210 message

[dusk siren]

Re: 4-letter Las Vegas clue
I was probably trying to get too clever with MOOG. Two, simpler ideas.

• Don't count the stars on Eastwood and use both Argon signs; ignore the location of the stars and use first letters.
  Result: GALA. Some nice features: GALAXY (leaving over "XY"), Mickey Appleman, LAS VEGAS, gala apple variety, the Met Gala
• Count the stars on Eastwood and just use Lapis Grandstand, Eastwood, Glamora, Argon (even simpler).
  Result: GALE (or some permutation). Some nice features: LAS VEGAS. Some interesting alternate definitions of "GALE".

Re: XYRR1X2
Thinking again about the KLEE+date idea and the two X's. I was looking at 1922 ---> X = 92 the atomic number of uranium and 1932 ---> X = 93 the atomic number of neptunium. But there is a plausible interpretation from a puzzle perspective, which is the association of X with "Planet X", the first candidate for which was Pluto. X = 94 would equal the atomic number of plutonium. KLEE1942? Would need a good significance for 1942, whether or not it starts with KLEE or not.

There was a memorial exhibition held for Paul Klee in 1942. https://www.phillipscollection.org/blog/2024-11-18-time-capsule-paul-klee

A 1942 exhibition featuring works by Klee and Calder. https://calder.org/exhibitions/group-exhibition/cincinnati-art-museum-1942/

[snow walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegina_Treasure

[dusk siren]

A Klee drawing at the MoMA with object number 182.1942 (perhaps indicating the year it was acquired).
Der Held mit dem Flügel (The Hero with the Wing) from the series Inventions (Inventionen) 1905
EDIT: Almost certainly a coincidence but 182.1942 as 18 Feb 1942 corresponds to a deadly shipwreck off Newfoundland when USS Truxtun runs aground near Chambers Cove and USS Pollux runs aground at Lawn Point, both very near the coordinates location off Newfoundland and possibly connected to "Pollux."
https://www.moma.org/collection/works/63858

Re: XYRR1X2
If the X in both cases represents 94, looking for wikipedia entries with both 94 and 1942, I found at least one so far, but not sure how the "YRR" in the middle would fit in, yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-94

[hazy mango]

Egg

[dusk siren]

Can't resist throwing this out there... 94LEE1942... in leet, GALEEIGAZ, phonetically almost GALAXY?

[dusk siren]

Re: I WE WHO TWO THREE
Because I'm stuck on radioactive isotopes, probably, but a relatively naive interpretation might be the following:

• TWO THREE = 23 = W (perhaps just trying to focus attention on the idea of converting between letters and numbers)
• WE = 235 (as in fissile Uranium-235)
• WHO = 238O? = 238zero? (as in non-fissile Uranium-238? as in Plutonium-238, though is that fissile? Pu-239 is the main fissile isotope used for nuclear weapons, so maybe not Pu-238)

If this is anything, any thoughts on what to do with the "I"?

I = 11 (but is this used ever to suggest a capital U?)

There is radioactive iodine (RAI, also called iodine-131 or I-131), but doesn't seem to connect with the rest.

Iodine is a "major" fission product of uranium and plutonium

I, WE, and WHO being, perhaps, the "oldest words" could deliberately introduce the element of time and an association with the concept of "half-life."

Also, someone mentioned alpha-beta recently. I was thinking about alpha decay and beta decay. In terms of radiation, alpha rays, beta rays, gamma rays are perhaps another ABC, though perhaps this has been noted already.

[gloomy anvil]

The geocache by the entrace to the Pisa Cathedral (from T1A) is called "A Walk in Pisa" (could be a coincidence). Also noting the oval-shaped stadium close by, which reminds me a bit of the whole NYC/Central Park thing, but idk how likely it is to connect.

[dusk siren]

Nice. What's the "A Walk in Pisa" connection? Something from previously in the hunt?

Re: I WE WHO TWO THREE; Rob: "get cracking now, we are starting pretty basic"; x-ray nama tama

• I = 1, a basic unit, a single atom
• I = 11 ---> I = II, a splitting of the basic unit, the splitting of the atom, splitting related to fission and cracking
• x-ray nama tama in the cash box at the beginning of the season 5(?) video followed by a splitting of cells and an explosion in their number, culminating in the cashbox exploding. Thought this was mitosis, but perhaps signifying a nuclear chain reaction. the x-ray already suggesting radiation, when otherwise it seems like a random choice. the exploding cash box suggesting a nuclear explosion
• Alfa Acta's nuclear warhead and silo, alfa acta perhaps similar to alpha radiation and alpha rays
• I WE WHO maybe a vague representation of this whole concept.
  • The "I" represents the splitting of the atom via I = 11 ---> I = II.
  • WE = 235 is a fissile isotope of Uranium.
  • WHO = 238O, which could be interpreted a few ways depending on whether it's U-238 or Pu-238.
• Potential Uranus and Pluto connections. Manhattan connection. And many others, no doubt.

[dusk siren]

I didn't realize that alpha particles, alpha rays, and alpha decay are not particularly associated with nuclear fission, but the first "splitting of the atom" involved them. "Eventually, in 1932, a fully artificial nuclear reaction and nuclear transmutation was achieved by Rutherford's colleagues Ernest Walton and John Cockcroft, who used artificially accelerated protons against lithium-7, to split this nucleus into two alpha particles. The feat was popularly known as 'splitting the atom.'" To the extent there is a fixation on dates of the form 1X2, 1932 might be associated with neptunium (X = 93).

[dusk siren]

this is really good

[gloomy anvil]

It's not really a connection, it just reminds me of "a walk in the park" which was a relevant phrase from Tier 3 and other EE things.

[dusk siren]

Switching gears, distinctly "pear-shaped" chungus. One of the mapped coordinates was basically in Peary Land at the northern tip of Greenland. Not sure we ever felt like the coordinates were leading anywhere (other than Kara, potentially), but maybe other people think that the pear shape in the image is both distinct enough and interesting enough. EDIT: speaking of Kara, some people noted it was very close to karat (as in gold), i.e., Kara(t). Perhaps other locations could yield a pattern. E.g., adding a letter to Peary could yield pearly (coincidentally the color of the chungus), i.e., Pear(l)y. 🤷

[hard geyser]

what are those

[rugged breach]

Looks like another player's goo

[rotund prawn]

What is the sparky fire thing when going OOB on the practice range?

[inland hemlock]

not sure what you are referring to but do know that the tutorials and Pratice range are actually multiplayer servers and when going OOB you might see other players stuff like in the pic above us

might've seen a thermite charge?

[rotund prawn]

ye i noticed it sjust that this looks vastly different from anything ive seen in game

its permanent

[inland hemlock]

oh and also no EEs are out of bounds

[rotund prawn]

hm ok

how do i post pics?

[inland hemlock]

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[inland hemlock]

but, you can send it to me and i can post it for you @rotund prawn

[rotund prawn]

aha!

Ok give me a second 🙂

[inland hemlock]

Pic from @rotund prawn

[rotund prawn]

its perpetual

wonder what it is

[inland hemlock]

does look odd but since there are no EEs in OOB it could be anything! from an effect missplaced in the void or another player burning stuff, or maybe just a glitch, who knows

[rotund prawn]

looks more like thermite than anything

but I guess yeah if no EEs are OOB then it should be nothing

[fading willow]

sup

[dusk siren]

I keep getting timed out but I don’t know why (sign from God, probably). Gonna post a few ideas one by one till I get timed out again. Associations to follow.

Skyway Stadium is in France?

In trying to translate "skyway" to French, I stumbled across the word aérienne (aerial)

Arianespace operates the Vega C launch vehicle.

Société Aérienne Bordelaise developed the SAB AB-21 bomber.

Also, working on Hôtel de Sable (Sand Hotel). @unkempt dune was the only one who suggested a Las Vegas connection to the Sands Hotel and Casino, which is interesting, but I think there could be another French connection (no pun intended). Also to one of the coordinate locations, maybe, the Crozet Islands or Îles Crozet. E.g., La Croisette is a thoroughfare in Cannes with hotels on the sandy beach. Tough because a handful of other locations in France are connected to the name Sable or references to sand.

[inland hemlock]

Skyway Stadium is a virtual map that takes bits from a bunch of map and so i don't think it's based on any real location (like how SysHorizon is)
still an interesting find

[dusk siren]

Totally fair assessment

[rugged breach]

Thermite animation that got stuck I believe

But ye like honeybadger said, there's no ees oob

[dusk siren]

To HoneyBadger's point, it is interesting that what we often shorten to "Dragon Studio" is actually rendered in Korean on Skyway. Might be worth considering that when you translate "Dragon Studio" to French you get "Studio Dragon," which is both a thing and Korean. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Dragon

The reason I'm pushing on Skyway being most strongly associated with France is the vibe, if I'm being honest. Also, I'm not up to date on the other places Skyway seems to draw from and allude to. I, myself, have tried associating it with all sorts of crazy places (like Chicago, USA?!), but when I thought about the little market and the style of the buildings, I'm not sure too many places with that vibe. Perhaps the office buildings are something different, though.

[fading willow]

georainbolt would find it instantly lol

[dusk siren]

The one tangent I noticed had to do with the concept of "aerial perspective" (perspective aérienne). I don't see an obvious connection to Skyway Stadium or the hunt, but I could imagine one, easily. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_perspective

[rugged breach]

I don't think skyway's got a irl counterpart like sys does. It's more like a virtual diorama based on monaco, hence the french vibes, no?

[dusk siren]

Yeah, I don't think there's a real life counterpart, either, but even based on what you say, maybe it is (predominantly) French. 🤷

Monaco ≠ France, fwiw

Course, some other European countries will have basically French subregions, as well.

[rugged breach]

City state in france, yes

[dusk siren]

I really can see your point, though, guys. Maybe I really want to limit myself to the part of the map featuring the hotel and villa as "French" (or being intellectually honest, just Monaco), with the part of the map featuring the steel and glass buildings as "Korean," and perhaps the construction area being the third map they were working on at the time the game was in development (so, Las Vegas?).

But if it does breakdown that way, we might still be able to make reasonable interpretations and connections for "Skyway".

I was trying for a "Skyway" connection in French, and maybe there is something there. But in that case, perhaps there is also one that Dragon Constellation Studio or Draco Studio is already pointing to as a "Skyway" connection in Korean. And maybe there is a "Skyway" connection to "construction" (something to do with the crane?) or the anticipated Las Vegas map (the big overhead metal structure) and in English.

After all, people have already pointed out Europe-Monaco, North America-Las Vegas, and Asia-Seoul as potentially having to do with the 3 nama tamas and the 3 columns of the Level 3 landing page.

Monaco and sable (sand) together associate with the Côte d'Azur (French Riviera). Although don't know if you needed the Hôtel de Sable clue when you can just look OOB in Monaco to the sea. I do like that it is color-coded, though. Cannes is in the French Riviera, as well, if there's a connection between the coordinates location Îles Crozet and La Croisette.

[dusk siren]

Was trying to figure out what the coordinate location just off the coast of Newfoundland could be (iykyk, I guess) and ended up looking into nearby St. Lawrence, Newfoundland, notable for, among other things, the American Newfoundland Fluorspar Company. Looking into fluorspar (aka, fluorite), I thought, what if these glowing things coming out of the wall on SYS are just a clue for "fluorescence". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence

Fluorescent (SYS color scheme?), UV light (black light), europium.

btw - the coordinate location (if it's anything) might be closer to the Labrador Current, the Gulf Stream, and the Grand Banks off of Newfoundland, if any of those ring a bell for anyone. St. Lawrence just happened to be the closest location on land.

That was a post in a fan art thread, so feels doubtful that it was an EE hunt clue.

Just thinking about the potential UV light, black light connection.

• black light / black knight?
• safe to say at this point that Rob is super into black
• I could've sworn that Rob said at one point something like "Pluto is a planet, zero is a real number, and black is a color" but I can't find it. Apocryphal? If he did, though, and to the extent color necessitates light, it could have been a black light reference.

The purple and black reminiscent of all those cosmetics from Season 2, some appearing to disappear (go outside the visible spectrum) periodically.

Was thinking of the gala apple variety and given the apples on SYS, wondered if apple cultivars would contain a clue. Found this one from Sweden called the Alice.

I saw another one earlier but didn't think anything of it, so gonna go through the list and see if I recognize anything else.

Oh, it was the one associated with Ariane and France.

Are there apples in the market on Skyway?

Here's the list if anyone else wants to go through it. (lol... 7,500) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apple_cultivars

Because why not?

"Skyway" seems to be associated with "air route." Interesting South Korea trivia involving Seoul. https://simpleflying.com/jeju-seoul/

[low escarp]

edit: yes def apples #1201288968562552863 message

[dusk siren]

Are the "skyways" the highest points on the various maps? Would be super great if they were all associated with nama tamas.

• Monaco: top of the cathedral (the location of the nama tama found in the ruins of the cathedral during the Duck and Cover event)
• Las Vegas: the Fremont Street barrel vault canopy (the location of the nama tama, perhaps during the Sandstorm event??? Coincidentally, the canopy is also razed to the ground in the Sandstorm, iirc, akin to the cathedral ruins???)
• Seoul: the construction site (the location of the nama tama, perhaps during the Under Construction event???)
  Hopefully cranes don't count, cuz I'm not sure they're very promising, though, who knows with Seoul. Kind of a notable one given the Hospital. Raze the Hospital with the crane? Knock the crane down in a specific place?
  Just spitballin'. sry.

[dusk siren]

That's a weird one.

Cloud structure of H2 in that pair of apples?

hydrogen pomme? hydrogen bomb? (sry... so bad, but if it's right, then it's on Rob)

[gloomy anvil]

It's possible the third Golden Nama (corresponding to Asia) has always been on Kyoto and never Seoul, since we activated level 3 after Kyoto released. Just something I realized.

No reason for it to be in the game before activation

[dusk siren]

Definitely. Good reminder. I was going off the idea that Skyway could be linking Monaco, Seoul, and Las Vegas. Also, if I were Rob, I think I might want the 3 nama tamas in the game from the start. 🤷

Separately, your point is good to keep in mind. Kyoto has some obvious "highest points," for example, if that "Skyway" idea is anything.

[gloomy anvil]

I imagine Seoul was always the plan, because we could've started level 3 during Season 1, but it's possible that when Kyoto released Rob moved it there before level 3 actually started.

that's facilitated by Seoul and Kyoto both being 5 letters

[dusk siren]

Furthermore, my thinking was the the construction area of Skyway would point to a map under construction, but when the game was released, Las Vegas was already constructed. Kyoto would be "under construction" at that point.

One question I'm keen on, now, is whether "skyway" = "highest points" might be a thing. Especially if part of the trick is knocking them down.

Obviously, everyone is checking every map, anyway, so I'm not sure my speculations are helping, but if I had to, I'd say the absence of unique variants on Kyoto is a strike against that map.

[low escarp]

was thinking this too because we need duck n cover for the monaco one

[dusk siren]

I think part of the barrel vault canopy in the sandstorm variant being in the sand is interesting too

@shadow shore noticed this thing with a lamp, too, if you click through his post that I forwarded.

[white patrol]

that's a good idea tom, I don't see las vegas(in skyway), but I hope it is in there!

[dusk siren]

Well, the contruction area could be something still being constructed. I was thinking in terms of the Las Vegas map technically being "under construction" during the beta events, when Skyway Stadium was already released.

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/811802529837875221.webp?size=48

wait...

holy sh*t that's a good point tom!

[dusk siren]

The more I think about it, if I had to make one guess for Seoul (so probability of success virtually zero), I'd say finding the nama tama involves knocking the crane down in a specific way and/or place.
Secondarily, using the crane to wreck something else, like the Hospital.
So, I guess I just made two guesses.

[white patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[dusk siren]

Come on. It's not that exciting. If I've learned anything on this hunt, it's to lower my expectations, especially for myself. 😂

[white patrol]

just exciting about realization how skyway could connect to level 3! nothing is 100% correct until eye of ro(rob) but it is a interesting perspective and I like it

[gloomy anvil]

It seems like Monaco / EU should be #2 because of its placement, and that Nama render, but the art clues point to it being #1. It's confusing.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193672244531052567/1376326214385537085/123.png?ex=6834eb2c&is=683399ac&hm=8cda7de167e21d31a82cae4755b99ca42584068975cefaf7c8726fd1be1abc93&

[fading vigil]

Was that area clues confirmed? Maybe we think it’s an area

[old haven]

I was in a privet match on Monaco with a friend and came across a billboard that I think normally would be an advertisement for one of the season sponsors
but instead it was glitching out and said "HYDRA_Q.JPE"
is this anything?
is CNS getting silly again?
(I have a screen shot if needed)

[gloomy anvil]

Not explicitly confirmed but they do perfectly line up with the continent land areas

[gloomy anvil]

We're not sure what it means yet but this is what we know: #1332758896594387066 message

[old haven]

Ooooo
interesting

[fading vigil]

Maybe need to check population numbers in cities

[dusk siren]

I took the placement to mean the order from left to right is EUROPE, NORTH AMERICA, and ASIA.
Honestly, I was thinking about how it would be nice if EUROPE-MONACO was actually 3, since you might get 3 ---> C ---> Cathedral.
I'm pretty sure it would screw up my "skyways" = "highest point" + "special map variant" + "knocking things down???" idea, which I don't want to give up at the moment, but such a system would certainly offer potential clues on where the other nama tamas are.
Example:
3-C = Monaco-Cathedral
2-B = Las Vegas-Barrel Vault Canopy (just what Wikipedia calls it)
1-A = Seoul-A...???

But...!!!

We really have 1A, 1B, 1C, 2A, 2B, 2C, 3A, 3B, 3C on the level 3 password page, right?

So maybe it is 1-C = Monaco-Cathedral, etc.

Not loving Seoul-A... though.
Hey, can you swing the crane all the way over to the Apartments on Seoul?

Venturing into rabbit hole territory, so stopping after this, but...
1-C = Europe-Monaco-Cathedral
2-B = North America-Las Vegas-Barrel Vault Canopy
3-A = Asia-Seoul-Apartments

So, perhaps the 3 nama tamas will help lead us to 3 of the 9 passwords according to some kind of scheme like this.

If we were allowed more flexibility, where 123 ABC is not taken to mean pairwise:
1-C = Europe-Monaco-Cathedral
2-C = North America-Las Vegas-Canopy
3-C = Asia-Seoul-Construction/Crane

Lol... maybe finding the nama tamas should still be the first order of business.

I kind of like this one, tbh, not that it's worth a cent

• 1-C = Europe-Monaco-Cathedral
• 2-C = North America-Las Vegas-Canopy
• 3-C = Asia-Seoul-Construction/Crane

Is the "C" a Nama Tama with some yolk coming out the side. 🤔 😵‍💫

[unkempt bluff]

Probably already discovered as it's a super easy to find thing but thought I'd post it anyways.

[gloomy anvil]

Thanks! I was wondering what they all were

[dusk siren]

Cool! Thx!

[white patrol]

Thanks for sharing! These should be the name of other player who also sharing the same PR lobby as you

(If the bottom right code it's the same as another person that means same server/lobby)

[white patrol]

cool nails btw 💅

[dusk siren]

Ya know... that opens up some strange PR roses EE hunt possibilities.

[white patrol]

yes we've tried something based on that

[dusk siren]

Of course! Why would I think we haven't?!

[native willow]

what's the theory on the blue cns like billboards that have been popping up recently?

[fading vigil]

#1332758896594387066 message

[frozen oxide]

CNS SEASON 7 BABY

[woeful cipher]

Is lvl3 even real?

[dusk siren]

Re: Hydra Q = Hydra Queen?

Earth X (1999)

The "Cosmic Cube" (aka, the Tesseract, which at least someone here suggested might be the "Hydra Cube") shows up in Paradise X (2002).

Lol... not sure I can take this seriously, but you never know, right?

Is MultiCo_OS V.105.05 always the "version"?

[gloomy anvil]

The password to Tier 1A was 1064. The tier featured lots of Italian clues and themes. You could see 1064 = IOGA = "Agio" which is Italian for "Ease". Not saying this is relevant to anything we're doing now I just want to note it.

[dusk siren]

No, "ease" is not relevant to Level 3 at all, apparently. Jk, that's a really good reminder and lesson for those of us who weren't here at the time.

Had to delete one of those brainless posts where I mixed up which letters I had. Was saying it's probably not great to mix lowercase leet with uppercase leet, but if you allowed 1 = L, then you would get 1064 = LOGA... not sure it makes any good Italian words, but "Algo" and "Goal" stick out. EDIT: "Gola" = "throat" in Italian, apparently.

[fallow agate]

Hydra Queen?
Queen?
ARC RAIDERS?!?!?

[dusk siren]

Possible it was pointing to apple cultivars, of which, Saturn is one. EDIT: There is such a variety as a "Four Square," but wikipedia certainly doesn't highlight it as interesting.

Re: bitten apple with a square around it (highlighted on stream by Rob)
Chess moves or grid coordinates are always good, right?
How about the Power Mac G4 Cube (2000) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Mac_G4_Cube

Literally in an art museum. The MoMA. 😅 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/82134

As for the full apple with a ring around it, it still reminds me of the Unisphere, which is in New York City, the "Big Apple."
Sry, if these clues have already been solved.

If these were these both correct (which I highly doubt), one nice thing might be that they yield numbers G4 = four, Unisphere = one.

[white patrol]

just to add to the context:
iirc rob said: why is it has a circle around it tho?

[dusk siren]

Re: The first of the three images and sculptures, the hand in the circle
A clue for "throwing your glove in the ring"?
If it were like the others, maybe the Book 5 of the Aeneid would be the source of a number, in this case 5.

[dusk siren]

ty!

[dusk siren]

Newton = gravity = Newton's apple incident = Newton's theorem of revolving orbits?
More vague and yet more specific?

If I were gonna speculate, maybe you get ancient literature (Virgil); modern science (Newton); post-modern technology, design and commerce (Ive, Jobs, Wozniak)? It's a stretch. Not even certain it's "throw your glove in the ring" for the first one.

[white patrol]

Regarding this "puzzle" someone already bring up newton but don't know what to do with it

I wonder what it could be

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/747245673631449109.webp?size=48

[white patrol]

#easter-eggs message check this out btw

[woeful cipher]

Also that was the season the anti-gravity cube was added..
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Anti-Gravity_Cube

[fallen summit]

anyone notice that the tv charm is off?

like theres nothing playing on it anymore.

[dusk siren]

So, these seem connected, right?

Obv, strong Kyoto vibes.

But if these are pointing to one of the two remaining gold nama tamas, I wonder if there's a slim chance that this is half red herring, half clue.

"Home Sweet Home" is what I'm thinking about.

That and the speculation that Seoul, Under Construction might be where the gold nama tama that some suspect will be associated with Asia might be.

So I'm thinking "Home Sweet Home" could be a reference to Seoul's Apartments.

Pushing the analogy, the mountains would perhaps be the high-rise buildings.

From the house next to "Home Sweet Home" on the gun (i.e., the apartments), you follow the path onto the map fragment to the "vault", which might mean across from the apartments, so again, the construction site in Under Construction.

The torn map fragment could be a clue that it follows on from the cosmetic (though if I'm being honest, I don't know if the weapon cosmetic predated the second Lost Legacy map).

The torn map fragment might also be an oblique clue for "Under Construction," as in, "not complete."

Anyway, bottom line is I need to test my theories myself and go looking around the Seoul construction site and around the Las Vegas canopy in the Sandstorm.

The W and N clues on the mountains on the weapon cosmetic may or may not fit with the theory once you get into the Seoul map, but if they did, that would be a positive.

Here's the one shot of the weapon cosmetic by itself, and so you can see at a glance how to the right of "Home Sweet Home" is the heart (perhaps a clue for X marks the spot or the gold nama tama).

"Days searching for the vault" would match exactly with the vault on the second Lost Legacy map.

This is the orientation I had in mind from the Apartments to the Under Construction site.

Something like this...

Or at least in that vicinity with respect to the Apartments (so maybe just across from construction somewhere).

At the risk of over-thinking, the heart to the right of the house on the weapon skin might also refer to the "heart of the map" (i.e., the center), which again would seem to place it somewhere in connection with the construction site, which is in the middle of the four buildings on the map.

[dusk siren]

Yeah, it's bothering me. Why put a samurai nama tama on Seoul? It seems in poor taste. I did look, though, and there could be some historical justification for it. This is via Quora, so cross-checking wikipedia might be better. It is interesting history. But I think you're right we should keep an open mind between Seoul and Kyoto.

As for your Kyoto theory, if we apply the "Home Sweet Home" logic to the Kyoto map, there is the RESIDENTIAL section. Perhaps using that as a starting point would help.

Unfortunately, I'm sure it has been thoroughly picked over by everyone already, but if I had to combine the above theories (hopefully grounded in some reasonable assumptions), I might trace the path from the RESIDENTIAL section to the TALL TEMPLE right in the heart of the Kyoto map.

If these maps are oriented with north at the top, then the W and N mountains on either side of the house on that weapon skin would maybe fit better than on Seoul, as well.

[unkempt dune]

Something I was thinking of the other day was that the cabin on the AKM skin resembles EX in HEX a tiny bit.

similar to how Ex in FedEx forms an arrow

[unkempt dune]

one thing I find interesting is that the door on the map is tiny since it's located on a vault

it's also a bit strange that it's on a vault and not a cashbox

[unkempt dune]

such a door on a vault would about this size:

both vaults and cashboxes can be moved

the main difference would be that vaults cannot be picked up while cashboxes can

[gloomy anvil]

big oil had an interesting thought about the door shape and size #1289459770063065088 message

[vagrant mauve]

I wonder if maybe it's on Seoul construction? I'm thinking a hidden area underneath a large logo on a wall. I cant remember if Seoul construction fits that criteria or not, but would be a good candidate. Theres also that wall on Kyoto, by the lake

[craggy sleet]

😱

[worn rivet]

Yup

100% agree

[craggy sleet]

lmao real

[worn rivet]

Do u know a password by chance?

[craggy sleet]

the pass phrase is nuggets

[worn rivet]

I'll try

[low escarp]

1 seoul has a mountain in the North
2 the torn map came with the ak skin in a bundle and a charm

[worn rivet]

Sadly no

[worn rivet]

Did the date lead us anywhere,

?*

[low escarp]

#easter-eggs message

[worn rivet]

Or "not complete" hinted at the broken church on Monaco, the egg we found already

[white patrol]

I don't know if someone already post this but, Holtow CEO name/ Rutile rolls, don't know if it's connected:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutile

[velvet narwhal]

A lot of CEO names are related to rocks

Sal Scoria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoria
Mackenzie Lapis (Lapis is stone in latin)
Yun Beam-Seok (Seok can mean rock)
Sophia Petronelle (Petronelle is derived from a greek word πέτρα that means stone)

Don't know if the other CEOs have any connections to stone:
Junior McJohnson
Ichikawa Natsume
Damien Vossler

[white patrol]

RHB is one of the CEOs

[alpine junco]

did anyone ever correlate this room to the vaiiya grid

unbreakbale ceiling lights

4x6

[dusk siren]

I like it!

[dusk siren]

Was thinking again how the Kyoto nama tama people are probably right (imho). Is there a logic? Perhaps this:

• Skyway (original) ---> Monaco + Seoul + Under Construction (Las Vegas?)
• Seoul (Iseul-t tower under construction) ---> Kyoto pagoda tower completed (similar position in the map and relative to apartments/residential)
• Skyway (original) ---> ... ---> Monaco + Kyoto + Las Vegas
• Why no special map variant for Kyoto like Duck and Cover or Sandstorm? ---> Perhaps it is not the map variant but the conditions variant.
• From the beginning many people were thinking, with many reasons to think, that Kyoto at night was likely special.
• Final thought: Rob seems to confirm that the gold nama tamas are keys to passwords, but this would seem to imply that trying to figure out the significance of the Monaco golden nama tama already found is still something we need to do. In that case, we would have the clues from the nama tama (Descartes' Demon, radio headset, Dede and her skin) and the clues related to its location in Monaco (cathedral, how it was discovered, etc.). Is this a fair assessment?

Descartes' Demon = DD = Dede... pure coincidence? (Is that Dede?)

[vagrant mauve]

I'm with team Seoul:

• I've looked all over Kyoto alr and found nothing :/
• Rob said "it's all about the gold namas... 1, 2, 3..." Which I think is supposed to be used with his "2 more in the world" clue. Which would then point towards Monaco, Seoul, and Vegas (as that's the release order of maps actually in the world)
• I think Kyoto's lack of any "exclusive" variants is more towards that not being the correct map. Yeah 1 doesn't make a pattern, but it can at least be a suggestion.
• Also Kyoto, while being a mountainous region irl, doesn't actually have any big mountains, unlike Seoul

[snow walrus]

no

[acoustic willow]

I hav been thinking bout the hidden room easter egg on syshorizon from rockhounds video, he mentioned the way the compass was made. If we can find a cup in the map and go to the area where the water is, is there a possible interaction that the cup might be filled with water ? Imma try that in one of the regular matches or customs if possible

[unborn pilot]

I have a feeling it’s referencing Deus deceptor which comes from Descartes. Being that it’s in Monaco where we also have S Lies & disappearing monkeys there’s some theme across them about deception, lies, etc. This is probably related to the password.

[acoustic willow]

Deception,lies......sounds like it would mean, that it's linked with the word "reality" or some word that is a part of the password.

[unborn pilot]

That’s an interesting point.

Also there’s probably a reason that the “demon” is under a destroyed cathedral.

[acoustic willow]

We could test that theory out by seeing the areas around the destroyed church section in one of the matches.

Cuz a devil can reside when a church which is a holy place is gone. We can also check it out by equipping the outfits that are related to "demon" themed like masks or outfits

Or we could destroy the church while wearing those costumes, and somehow we could resurrect or a fragment of "reality" could pop out of it.

Man why didn't i find this chat room of easter eggs earlier?

[dusk siren]

The radio headset has always kinda fit in with the idea of the Monaco Grand Prix (perhaps, specifically, the 2014 Monaco Grand Prix).
Have people really dug into that yet?
Here, at the top, you can see the southernmost part of the Circuit de Monaco marked out, and at the bottom, the part of Monaco that is in the game including the outline of the cathedral.

[acoustic willow]

What do the monkeys cover when they spawn ? Or is it just a monkey pic

[dusk siren]

On of the first things I thought of was "burrows" and "tunnels."

You can see several labeled on the map above.

There are others not labeled that might be interesting, as well (some which don't have an English wikipedia page, at least).
For instance: https://routes.fandom.com/wiki/Tunnel_Rocher_Cathédrale_(MC)

Which could be translated "Cathedral Rock Tunnel"

The winner of the 2014 Monaco Grand Prix was Nico Rosberg, incidentally.
Rosberg means "Mountain of Roses" (you can't make this up)
Alternate interpretations: "Rose Hill" or "Red Mountain"

[acoustic willow]

Something is being cooked

That means, there is some kind of trigger that needs to be pressed to "unlock" the tunnels, if there is one in the map.

[dusk siren]

In that map of the Circuit de Monaco above, where it says "18," that's actually turns 18 and 19, I think, and referred to as "Anthony Noghès."

[dusk siren]

Tangent to the Circuit de Monaco is the Quai Antoine 1er, which could be a reference to a "key"

"F1" itself is reminsicent of hex and several other grid coordinate or potential grid coordinate clues.

[acoustic willow]

If this map in game is in accordance to irl, we can check that place out.

[dusk siren]

It's off the in-game map, I'm pretty sure, but not certain.

Also, apologies if I'm retreading old ground from years ago, now.

[acoustic willow]

Grid coordinates. That could be something that would give us the position to find the so called key

[dusk siren]

It doesn't quite line up, but the top of the in-game map might roughly correspond to the Rue des Remparts, which would be fitting, as Rempart translates to "bulwark" or "A strong wall that forms the enclosure (of a fortress, a fortified city)."

Perhaps "Seek beyond the walls" is, in part, a hint to look beyond the Rue de Remparts, which would be towards the Circuit de Monaco.

[acoustic willow]

Also the monkey has to do something with the S lies cuz the monkeys are related to Gandhi's three monkeys

[acoustic willow]

That's a good theory

[dusk siren]

This is a pretty good fit, imho, for the combination of the Descartes' Demon and the radio headset (perhaps presumably an F1 radio headset) and the "hear no evil" idea someone was just suggesting (of the "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" triple, which really does match pretty well the sunglasses nama tama, headset nama tama, and chinstrap nama tama).

[acoustic willow]

Has anyone interacted with the big duck ?

[acoustic willow]

I was saying that those monkey are some references to the Gandhis three monkeys

[dusk siren]

Reposting @snow walrus's image. I get the impression this idea is resonant with the idea of trying to block out evil.

[acoustic willow]

Or maybe the reality

[dusk siren]

Don't know if Rob is a sim racer, but one association between "DD" and "F1" is via Fanatec's Direct Drive Wheel Base (whatever that is) https://www.fanatec.com/us/en/p/wheel-bases/csl_dd_qr2l_180_us/csl-dd-qr2l-8-nm-us

[acoustic willow]

If we think that this game is a world of its own then, s lies, the monkeys and thre nama tama statues is some sort of a link to the seek truth beyond the walls, meaning while need to see what is outside of this bubble of this virtual world, the truth or in other words, enlightenment

[dusk siren]

Sim Racing = Simulation Racing... not unlike the Finals, tbf

Anyway, certainly a lot of potential directions along this line of thinking, even if all wrong. 🥹

[acoustic willow]

My guts is telling me it's either related to "reality" or "enlightenment"

Idk, just a gut feeling

[dusk siren]

Oh, I just remembered from my own F1 fan days...
The "double diffuser" ("DD") was a huge technical innovation at the time! Though, it predated the 2014 Monaco Grand Prix.

[acoustic willow]

But what reality is the question.

[acoustic willow]

No no ur theory is solid , based on the facts u dug

[dusk siren]

Most associated with the famous 2009 Brawn car, its famous championship campaign, and Jensen Button's driver's championship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brawn_BGP_001

[acoustic willow]

Mine is focused towards what reality are CNS trying to bring u to ? What is the S Lies ?

[dusk siren]

Definitely lots of directions to pursue.

[acoustic willow]

I hav a shitload of things that are plausible

[stray shuttle]

found something on $y$ horizon, first time seeing it, not sure if its been found or just a visual bug

[dusk siren]

Though there's an interesting controversy over how Brawn ended up with a "double diffuser." They weren't the only car to have one, and some say that other features of the Brawn were at least as important, which let them start the season far outclassing all the others.

[acoustic willow]

S lies could mean, the system or scotty or sofia

[acoustic willow]

Check the building ceiling in case in every building u go. Check for whether there is a white grid which is indestructible.

[dusk siren]

Jensen Button's teammate was Rubens Barrichello (potential Rubens reference?), and the team was famously led by Ross Brawn.

[acoustic willow]

#easter-eggs message like this one u see in the picture

[dusk siren]

Just to re-up, "Samurai Nama Tama" maybe should be read as "Chinstrap Nama Tama" (lol), for speak no evil.

[stray shuttle]

didnt find anything

thought it could be a visual bug becausse its the same as the player card background

[acoustic willow]

Got it, looks we hav to check every building in the map to find for a white grid

[acoustic willow]

It's not a bug, it's an easter egg

[dusk siren]

Guess whenever we get a potential binary clue, in this case 001, you gotta run it down.
In morse it could be:

• "IT" (just saying this is "it"? yeah, I wish)
• "EA" (Electronic Arts had the official F1 game for a while, so a potential sim racing clue?)
• "U" (I always think of uranium, now, and the atomic number 92, which annoyingly, could point to yet another F1 calendar year, in 1992, won by the F1 legend Ayrton Senna)

[dusk siren]

"It's not a bug, it's an easter egg." This would have to be my motto if I ever tried to develop a video game.

Turn 18 (or 19 on some past circuit arrangements)... named for this guy: Antony Noghès https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Noghès

Originally the one to suggest the "checkered flag," which is kinda neat.
Also, married Princess Antoinette of Monaco, which seems kinda notable.

"completely mad"... this princess sounds kinda wild.
Sister-and-law of Grace Kelly, it would seem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Antoinette,_Baroness_of_Massy

[dusk siren]

Was thiking of @white patrol's 3 dolphins idea. I think we've all been bothered about the graphed coordinates for a while. I recall several in the ocean but near coasts.
Furthermore, perhaps it's 3 cetacea, given the actual password.
I know someone is gonna tell me that we know from the EEs that all 3 are dolphins, so I'm sorry if this is wrong.
But if not necessarily wrong, perhaps we could get something like 1 dolphin, 1 porpoise, and 1 whale, each corresponding to coordinate locations?

For instance, this is Burmeister's porpoise. It's native around the tip of South America, where we have a mapped pair of coordinates.

Newfoundland has a place called Whale Cove that is right next to where we have another mapped pair of coordinates. (You can see St. Lawrence on the map to know it's close.)

Newfoundland obvious known for whales, as well.

For instance, pilot whales

But several others, so probably not great to try to narrow down right away. Right whales, bowhead whales, northern bottlenose whale, et al.

Meanwhile, something like the Beluga whale does not reach as far south as that location off the southern coast of Newfoundland, but it does have populations in the Kara Sea, as well as the three other locations that might have mapped coordinates that far north.

IIRC, one potential pair of mapped coordinates was the Canary Islands. Just hard to narrow down what that may or may not correspond to as far as a mammal goes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_of_the_Canary_Islands

Anyway, it might be obvious what I'm getting at, but if we have 3 monkeys, 3 hares, and 3 dolphins (or cetacea?), then perhaps there is some correspondence between the locations of the pairs of coordinates and one of these types of animals.

Though, presumably, we would need lots of other clues to narrow down the species with their corresponding locations, if there is anything to this.

Take the Canary Islands. Conveniently, there is only one species of rabbit or hare in the list above.
Coincidentally, it is called the European Rabbit (again, can't make this stuff up)

In general, we might try wikipedia searches like "List of mammals of...", and perhaps we get lucky with something.

The mountain hare (aka, blue hare; aka, white hare) was introduced, coincidentally, to the Crozet Islands (which I think might correspond to the location of a mapped pair of coordinates). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_hare

I'll stop here, though, before literally going down a rabbit hole, unless we get some more confirmation from somewhere (namely, Rob, how 'bout it? 🙂 )

[dusk siren]

Am I crazy, or could "S. Lies" just be an early "VVV" clue?

5.1135 = VIIIIIV = VVV?

Sry if this has been debated endlessly already. Couldn't find it in a search of the thread.

Given the period, and whether from S. Lies or from VVV, there is this album from a pretty famous lady. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5:55

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Gainsbourg

She happened to star in a film titled "Three Hearts" , VVV ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Hearts_(film)

Once again, gonna stop there...

[gloomy knot]

Someone mentioned the Blue Screen could be referring to Hydrangeas. Before Rob mentioned how the Roses needed water, right? So what does this bit at the end mean?

[Cash Station and Cash Box at a table. Hydrangeas & 2 roses on the table. The atmosphere is romantic.]

https://www.google.com/search?q=the+finals+world+tour+sponsor+showdown+alfa+acta&oq=the+finals+world+tour+sponsor+showdown+alfa+acta&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRiPAjIHCAcQIRiPAtIBCTE5NTQ1ajFqNKgCAbACAQ&client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:396bdad0,vid:V7isAn1e36w,st:0

[white patrol]

I wonder

there's like two rutile rolls in here right?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1341374199020785725.webp?size=48

sorry peeps just woke up, don't even know the context of xyRR1x2

or it's "xy x RR"

[dusk siren]

Re: cinquefoil (pentafoil) and Kyoto (looking for more Kyoto-related clues)
Suitable for bonsai, interesting cultivar names. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasiphora_fruticosa

Potentially interesting common names include shrubby cinquefoil, golden hardhack, bush cinquefoil, shrubby five-finger, widdy, kuril tea, and tundra rose.

"Centigrana" might be interesting. "100 seeds" or "100 grains"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentilla_centigrana

Might be an interesting resource now or in the future based on the potential connection between cinquefoil and Japan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanakotoba

Originally via a Martin Gardner connection. Borromean rings (Japanese shrine connection), Hopf link (Hopf link? Japanese Buddhist sect connection), Torus. Would be a 123. Potentially worth knowing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopf_link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borromean_rings

[acoustic willow]

imma check for grids, in any buildings like the one dude who showed it on his screenshot

Btw is the dolphin easter egg still there ?

On syshorizon

Let's goo

[white patrol]

not sure.. rob said dolphins are sleeping until S7, don't really know if that means inactive :3

[acoustic willow]

Man goddayum it

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1341374199020785725.webp?size=48

Well, the next season going to be something new!

[acoustic willow]

We already getting some good ass hints bout it

There was also an easter egg related to the cannons on monaco

[fickle hedge]

what level yall on?

[white patrol]

3

annnnd we are stuck (sort of)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/747245673631449109.webp?size=48

[vagrant mauve]

We're just on The Hunt (for gold namas)

[white patrol]

stuck on that one too (sort of)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/821265255803387914.webp?size=48

[vagrant mauve]

So long as there's more ideas, we aren't stuck!

[white patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[acoustic willow]

Shit, we need to figure out what does s lies mean

[white patrol]

you mean who lies or what is the lie about?

[acoustic willow]

It could be something related to reality I guess

[vagrant mauve]

Isn't it just the OSPUZE CEO? Wasn't that the whole point of the last CNS breach (I wasnt paying much attention then)

[acoustic willow]

Right, but s could also means, system lies as well

[vagrant mauve]

Given the fact it's on MCO docs, I think one meaning is most likely... But who is L? And why do they lie?

[velvet narwhal]

CNS already told us that S stands for Sophia https://www.reddit.com/r/cns/comments/1jag6p3/wearecnsacceptnolieswearecns

[white patrol]

do we ever know what 4RCU5 stands for? Arcus?
Arc us?

[acoustic willow]

Right but what is she lying bout

[glad lake]

My money is down for L standing for Lapis (Volpe Ceo)

[glad lake]

could be everything. likely what Ospuze is really made of or what it does to people.

[acoustic willow]

Maybe one of the corporation is helping CNS to break through the game to sort of be king of the game

[acoustic willow]

It's maybe a manipulation drink

Bet a buck, it's the drink thats making everyone sort of hate the meatspace.

[velvet narwhal]

no, we have no idea what it means

[acoustic willow]

Maybe a name of the member of CNS ?

[alpine junco]

OYE

[acoustic willow]

It's called a miniscule

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ø

[acoustic willow]

But the question is what is the meaning for the miniscule to be there ? Or it's theta

It also means empty set

According to mathematics

[alpine junco]

it's from the menu mail box

[acoustic willow]

Yeah I know

It's too big of a clue to be ignored

[fresh quiver]

what was the name of this image?

[fresh quiver]

On Jan 6th Embark Rob posted the artwork “404”.

Symbol: Ø = Empty Set

[velvet narwhal]

404
#official-art message

[fresh quiver]

your too late 😄

[fresh quiver]

Also I took some extra minutes to find it in our Journey doc 😄

@alpine junco here you go.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLzGtj2w2elVkqEdPV6NgqRiszNAxnwIANXHK-Pa1Bk/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.eygab7knexy1

[alpine junco]

I posted it since it was in the main menu of The Finals

since we have null set and zero matrix

[fresh quiver]

and I just linked you to all the things we already got from it. / connected. As its a fairly old clue. But even old clues are used by now

[alpine junco]

which is also a fairly used clue tbh. a lot of repetition when it comes to small things

Makes me wonder if there are more subtle “hints” like this in the main menu

[crisp eagle]

Maybe we gotta setup a date similar to what we saw on the sponsor showdown video at the end? Dates cost money. Cash box has money. We’ve been staring at those hydrangeas they have on the table forever now. And then our NPK clue. There’s nothing more romantic than two people who have chemistry.

Cash box is also a cube

Also sorry again if I repeat anything others have said. I didn’t have service almost all weekend and there’s a lot to read

[ornate sapphire]

Do we have an idea of what's coming next season hunters?

[low escarp]

dont think about next season we got roses to solve 🌹

[fading vigil]

(Original of comics was stolen, all credits to the author)
How we seen by Embark:

[dusk siren]

Re: potential Kyoto Gold Nama Tama EE locations
* If there are any masochistic Kyoto EE hunters out there.
TL;DR: Consider the Main Temple as the vault and “heart” of the map, maybe containing or “spilling out” the Gold Nama Tama, moonlight presumed to be essential

Logic (such as it were):

All I got... also, when @acoustic willow wrote, "It's called a miniscule," I thought for a second he wrote, "It's called a miracle," and I thought we had something. Don't tease me like that. 🙂

[acoustic willow]

Bruh, it happens

[snow walrus]

if it's in Kyoto my guess is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinkaku-ji

[dusk siren]

Ah, I see... because of the water?

[snow walrus]

beucase of GOLDEN pavilion lol

[dusk siren]

I thought the buildings, while not perfectly laid out, looked like the To-ji Temple and nearby "Five Story Pagoda"

I'm finding it particularly hard with Japanese for some reason. When I don't know the language, usually I feel like I can use translate and navigate pretty well.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure this is something called the "Kondo" as part of the "To-ji Temple."
I thought it might be close enough to the Main Temple in the middle of the map.

This was a post by Ludo related to something on a weapon skin.

I was checking if Tō-ji or To-ji had been posted about yet, and this was the only other post, it seemed.

Anyway, "TO-JI-TO" is almost certainly a coincidence, but thought I'd put it there in case people wanted to retrace Ludo's steps and see if it's interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tō-ji

@unkempt dune had an idea to consider the VAIIYA grid animation as a chess board, despite it being 7 x 7. Since the white square comes from "off the board" from the top, perhaps it is coming from the equivalent of the 8th row. Then, by analogy, maybe the A column is "off the board" to the left. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHkETLWVNBE
I spent a couple minutes. Only reasonable thing I came up with was this (can't be hex, after all):

• C8 C5 H5 H2 C2 C4
• 38 35 85 82 32 34
• Unicode: 8 5 NEL (next line) BPH (break permitted here) 2 4
  85

---

24
I'm sure people have thought about placing the grid over a map or something, but when I searched "VAIIYA chess," nothing came up.

[dusk siren]

Dude... check this out from the To-ji Temple wikipedia entry.
The "Kondo" I highlighted as the "Main Temple"?
It's called the "Golden Hall"

If there is a building that looks a lot like this, it might be the "Golden Hall" we're looking for.

I assumed this would be the "Main Temple" in front of the central "5 story pagoda," but it doesn't have to be.

[sour needle]

sorry if it has already ben mentioned but i found a glitched screen during a match

i dont know if it was a bug or not

[storm horizon]

it says stay hydrated, means drink more water

[inland hemlock]

monaco screens were mentioned but i can't remember if the ones on vegas stadium were too

because they go back to normal ads after a couple of seconds

[sour needle]

or maybe ospuze

[alpine junco]

jpeg G

[inland hemlock]

Just the screen glitching

message was the same

[fading vigil]

#easter-eggs message

[dusk siren]

I really kinda doubt it cuz it doesn't seem to fit with "hydra cube" or "Qs in a cube filled w/ Q" (paraphrase), but Q =17 might hint at this: https://theskylive.com/sky/stars/17-hydrae-star

I thought about Q = 17, again, because I wondered if G = 7 was a thing. Ofc, seeing where the "G" is, almost as if it's the last letter of a word that got cut off, not sure the letters -> numbers thing will help (and prob too simple).

Q in the context of the constellation Hydra also makes me think of quasar (Quasar, also, coincidentally, related to Hydra Marvel lore; see also the "Ultimate Nullifier" weapon).
I know next to nothing about astronomy, so perhaps someone else can see if this is worth exploring.

Long shot... Hydra multi-object spectrograph (MOS) used to identify quasars.

source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/230997865_New_Quasars_Detected_via_Variability_in_the_QUEST1_Survey

Example of a quasar in the Hydra constellation https://www.eso.org/public/images/eso0122a/

[dusk siren]

Quasar Khanh - designer of the Quasar-Unipower "Cube Car," a piece of sand molded aluminum furniture called the Khanh Hydrair KX1, and what may have been a design for a hydrofoil boat or air ship called the Hydrairbus 100.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar_Khanh

I mean... no, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29u543fIX5g

[crisp eagle]

I never noticed “SAFEZONE” on them. Interesting

[low escarp]

the whole basement has been hammered
found nothing

[dusk siren]

What about the slope of rocks (if I'm remembering correctly), or even down the big yellow slope to the water below?
Honestly, I feel bad suggesting this to other hunters, so I hope no one feels compelled to test my theory on my behalf.

[dusk siren]

yeah, when I tried to search, the main thing that came up was references to a zone in a conflict between guerrilla fighters and the established power.
a CNS confirmation, as they would represent the guerrillas and multico the established power?

[fading vigil]

Did you noticed new anti violence chat msg?

[dusk siren]

Wondering if the Q is a reference to rational numbers... I need to check potential "hydra" + rational numbers connections, but Qs in a cube filled with cubes might relate to the cardinality of the rational numbers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph_number

If I can interpret the number theory, it seems like Q ~ ω, and ω^3 ~ ω, so if it's a kind of number theory riddle, then the answer might be
ℵ_0 (read aleph-nought, aleph-zero, or aleph-null)

[low escarp]

i hammered that a while ago when i was looking for golden nama on kyoto
also np keep sugesting ideas i have none left 💀

[dusk siren]

I also like this Aleph, Beth... progression. A bit reminiscent of Ann, Bet, Chris... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_number

[fading vigil]

Also on a skyway, June said: be killed by a lightning is so oldscool
What if there is an ee to make lightning storm?

[dusk siren]

Since you're kind about it, you did all this during nighttime conditions, I take it.
I would hope Rob wouldn't make it even worse, where it has to be during a certain kind of moon or something.
Obviously, I, too, am essentially out of ideas.

[dusk siren]

Maybe @snow walrus's idea is the one! 🙂

[potent sluice]

Hey lads, since you guys seem to be more knowledgeable about is, I have no idea if something I encountered is something of interest for easter egg hunters or if it was just always there and I never noticed.

[dusk siren]

If "how many Q's fit in a cube full of Q's," is really "how many rational numbers fit in an ω^3 full of rational numbers," the answer might be ω (omega).
In that case "hydra cube" might connect to "hydra omega" (it just doesn't seem like you need both of the clues Rob gave, i.e., "hydra cube" would've been enough, and I doubt one would get to omega just from that).

[potent sluice]

There's like a second background announcer (Not Scotty and June) talking in non-english after the english one here and that's the part I'm unsure of.

[dusk siren]

one thing you could try, but not fool-proof, is to search "in:easter-eggs [for your potential EE]"

[potent sluice]

Yeah, but I have no idea what keywords to even look for.

no clue what language it even was.

[dusk siren]

Example: you hear the announcer on Monaco in the background speaking French, you could search "in:easter-eggs Monaco French."

But like I said not fool-proof.

[dusk siren]

Just post it, then. Can't hurt!

🙂

I'm probably the most guilty of spamming the channel lately, so I wouldn't worry about sending your ideas.
But that's just my opinion.

I think it's greatly appreciated.

[potent sluice]

Just found a bunch of people saying monaco is french, but nothing about what I experienced.

[dusk siren]

It's been observed, but it might not have been. Worth the post. Who knows, your next one could be a breakthrough. You'd be a hero in these parts. 🙂

[potent sluice]

I don't have that kind of luck to be a hero in the hunter community, but I am excited by their advancements

[dusk siren]

u never know

[dusk siren]

If hydra refers to the hydra game (would be a Martin Gardner reference, among other things), then ω (omega) is an important constant in some versions of the game, specifically the Buchholz Hydra.

[low escarp]

😭 forgor tod just had it to random ill check tomorrow with night setting

[dusk siren]

Well, it's not like it can't wait given our timeline in recent months. Honestly, I wish I could get in there with you, but I'm currently saving up for a new computer after the fan in my gaming laptop crapped out, and I want it to be a good one. Mental note: either don't play the Finals at full blast on a laptop for hundreds of hours or maybe be responsible and clear out the fans more regularly.

[dusk siren]

There is a recursive formula for Hydra(n) - see above - which certainly ends up with exponents of 3 ("cubes") in it, but a more simplistic concept would be to treat the "cube" in "Hydra cube" as just "cube" = 3.
In that case "Hydra Cube" might equal Hydra(3) = 37.

As for why there might be a "JPEG," a hydra game can be represented visually as a tree graph (it usually is, actually).

To add one more speculation, you win the game by eventually eliminating all the edges and, thereby, the hydra. Perhaps that's where the "SAFEZONE" comes in. 🤷

The "HYDRA_Q" ---> "HYDRA_OMEGA" possibility could have lots of potential references, but many relate to fantasy and sci-fi games and entertainment and too many to distinguish between.

Along with aleph numbers and beth numbers, there is a related concept of epsilon numbers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epsilon_number

This paragraph has references to both the ordinal ω (omega) and the hydra theorem.
So, "Hydra Cube" could be one thing (perhaps Hydra(3) = 37), and "HYDRA_Q" could be "HYDRA_OMEGA" and possibly related to the ideas below.

Another name for the Hydra Theorem is Goodstein's Theorem, I guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodstein's_theorem

[white patrol]

it's a voiceline for every map 8

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1341374199020785725.webp?size=48

[dusk siren]

"SAFEZONE" is a bit odd... perhaps a clue in itself?

54(16/6?)320(14?)3... feels unlikely, but something else?

S FAZE ONE?

or it's nuthing

[white patrol]

Since CNS in S7 has been teased at start S6, based on the style, hydra_Q might have something todo with CNS
then safe zone can be something lore related, maybe a place outside MultiCO's reach? No monitoring, recording and stuff

[dusk siren]

Yeah, I think it's almost certainly lore-related (unfortunately?), but would Rob hide a clue in there, as well?
I mean when he posted about "Hydra Cube," was it an EE clue or a S7 clue or possibly both?

There was that "SZdeF" clue as well. "SAFEZONE" gives "SZaeF ONE" (unfortunately an "a" instead of a "d" though).
People also speculated that "de" might just indicate "D." Don't know if we fully explored "SZDF," either.

If the F were a 6... there is an SZD-6X (codename "Bat") experimental glider. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SZD-6X_Nietoperz

I the F were a 15 (cuz hex), there's an SZD-15 glider (codename "Magpie"). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SZD-15_Sroka

We had a Poland angle at one point.

[fading vigil]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Hydrae
was this mentioned?

[dusk siren]

I'm not all that convinced on the Hydra + Omega connection, but that's a great find!
A little "golden-hued star" action never hurt.

[fading vigil]

Also:

https://www.checkpoint.com/cyber-hub/threat-prevention/what-is-malware/hydra-malware/

[dusk siren]

SZaeF ONE perhaps "SZAF ONE"? I mean "Szaf" is Polish, but I'm not sure it makes any sense. As is, "SZAF ONE" -> "SZAFA"

[white patrol]

Hydra cube clue goes something like this:
how many Q to fill a cube, if a cube is full of Q

it is a clue for roses, lore related does equal to no EE involved, lore is part of EE after all (multico file is pretty good example)

[fading vigil]

Mentioned earlier Hudraq “malware” was used in “Operation Aurora”, attack style named as “waterhole attack”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(mythology)

[gloomy anvil]

Did we ever work out if this is an actual command or routine like SYS 64738?

If it isn't, it could be a clue for something else like level 3 disguised as one

[white patrol]

hmmm can this be related to lvl3 clues?
ABC 123 I we who etc

[fading vigil]

FE0FC

Coffe?

Or is it hex?
Fe 0 fc

254 0 252

Is it magenta?

[vagrant mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-bang-cat-gif-9228092957721715341

[alpine junco]

Weird that this is the only time this was mentioned.

we still have that coffee stain

“it’s roman”

[still horizon]

Does anyone know what this green thing is, or has it been solved already? (original image #official-art message)

[white patrol]

it's tree type, you can see that on the same tree in game too

[vagrant mauve]

has this barrier effect always been in the PR???

[gloomy anvil]

Looking at the I Want to Believe box arts again. There's of course the X on the ground with the trail around it. The extended edition has the characters' shadows making an X, which kinda reminds me of using lights to make an X like in Monkey Island, and the stage lights in Las Vegas. Also the X-Files logo (not specific to this movie) is an X in a circle, like what we have on the level 3 page. Just some observations.

[white patrol]

don't we have some clue about "I want to"?
the "I want to believe" is X file's motto or something?

[gloomy anvil]

Yeah that's how we get to the movie

[white patrol]

ohh I see isee, thanks raid!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/747245673631449109.webp?size=48

[velvet narwhal]

This cluster of candles is sus

[oak mason]

That "SZdeF" can give a clue that the word may be in polish because letters SZ next to each other. By the scramble it can give "SZFed" whose pronunciation is kinda the same as "SZWed". Which means "swede" (Swedish citizen)

[low escarp]

hammer the basement and the slope in clear night with @velvet narwhal
found nothing

[white patrol]

The flying roof got me thinking it is Las Vegas (OOB Zaraby building), and my brain goes "Las Kyoto"

[low escarp]

2 peaks
W and N

home sweet home?

[white patrol]

the triangle still weird to me

[low escarp]

what triangle?

[white patrol]

In front of the house there's this "pathway" peddle stone on the floor tha forms a small triangle that leads no where remember piet?

maybe these peddle stone have trigger mechanic like the old dolphin EE, do something and there's letter

it's just too random to be there

[white patrol]

yes that

very weird

V as in numeral 5, there's 7 stones

it's a path so that indicates "walking"? no idea

[oak mason]

Maybe it's an arrow? Which points to something ? :p

[white patrol]

tried that idea, nothing specific

[acoustic willow]

eh its just random placement

[acoustic willow]

#⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[vagrant mauve]

This is a known thing that happens when entering the PR. I think it's a bug? Either way nothing interesting has been found with it

[tall gorge]

hey, i could just be 100% late to the party on this, but i'm watching one of sanguinenight's vids on yt and on monaco, there's another "glitched" wall corner near the hotel. what did i miss?

[onyx ocean]

So me and a buddy are investigating the roses again because why not, ya know.

Where new to ARGs so what we are thinking, may or may not be helpful.

But the location the roses are at in the practice range seems to clearly represent Monaco. The big tips for the roses are it takes more then one person. The rose needs to be fertilized to grow, theirs an ocean involved, and the roses are found in the shadows.

The lamp posts light bulbs can be shot out, nex to the roses, and Monaco and Roses are very related. Theirs the princess rose garden IRL and in the center of that garden is a fountain. Also on the Monaco map their is an ocean.

So far we are in the process of trying to shot out all the lamp posts with light bulbs on then on the night time Manaco map.

Also what was In today's update ?

[gloomy anvil]

updates are on Thursday now

[onyx ocean]

I mean, for me it's wednesday, is that a time zone thing or did I get a 600ish mb update early?

[gloomy anvil]

not sure

[unkempt dune]

Has anyone suggested that the 357 reference in 812a369f6ccfecd0.jpg is referring to Lucky Star 357 on Las Vegas for the code/password of some kind that is supposedly somewhere on Las Vegas.

^ closest thing I can find would be that

[dusky elk]

this probably has been asked here before, but when did they add that new door in the practice range?

probably linked to a tutorial tbh, but it surprised me today lol

[fading vigil]

Last patch happened

[gloomy anvil]

My understanding is that the door will lead to the new practice range coming in S7

[robust finch]

That would make sense

[austere rover]

I don't know if anyone else has found this, but I noticed there was some morse code on this, but it didn't translate right..
With some creativity, I found the message! Pretty neat imo

[fading vigil]

Shoot the cash box in terminal while spinning?

Over the some rock?

Great find tho

[twin leaf]

I’m pretty sure this is the same background announcer as on other maps, but on Monaco and Seoul they speak the language of the area

[inland hemlock]

still think this is a rose btw

[austere rover]

At first I thought it was a zoopraxiscope or something lmao

[austere rover]

There's a few in the practice range.. maybe a few in Monaco too?

[gusty timber]

Anyone notice the VEIN sign the white rabbit is on is strobing funnily?

maybe connected to the Hydra billboard screens

[austere rover]

I'll keep an eye out. The one in Sys is a little weird now too. OSPUZE can shows up in it I think? Kinda strange

[frozen oxide]

It might actually be a praxiscope still, can someone try that out?

Nvm it looks like the exact same image layered, unless I’m missing something (besides the Morse)

[fading vigil]

It’s a LEGACY seal..
Can it be a clue for lost legacy?

[white patrol]

iirc it is related yeah

[fading vigil]

Also I saw a sign with single R on Las Vegas oob

[dusk siren]

Has this been looked at previously? I went to the "X" from the "Masterplan Markup" map during the Sandstorm and looked at the spot with thermal vision. At first it seemed like a clear "X" in exactly the right spot. Then I noticed that it looked a little off, as if it wasn't perfectly symmetric. Then, I looked from another angle and it looked like an "X" with an arc coming off of it, and maybe even connecting two of the arms of the "X" (I don't know if that's already a real symbol. I might be hallucinating the curved part). The "X" seems unambiguous to me, though.

As someone else noted the other day, there is a cash deposit spawn exactly above it, one floor up. Because of the "up" in "Markup," I tried a lot of things above the "X," including having the cash deposit drop down directly on the X. Then I tried a bunch of things with the cash deposit on the X. I tried eliminating an opponent who was standing directly on the "X," tried to have orbital lasers blast it, you get the gist. Of course, I'm certain that there are still lots of logical things that I didn't try, yet.

Anyway, so far, no luck. In fact, I think my confidence that the "X" is excatly like the one in the first "Lost Legacy" map is diminished somewhat. Simplest theory is that the two maps are the same, and somehow we find a gold Nama Tama near there. But I am now considering whether there isn't simply a symbol, a "markup," that is its own clue and could help us some other way.

btw - probably a coincidence, but I think I asked whether the crazy path on the "Masterplan Markup" looked like a "g" or a "5." I might be wrong, but when I imagined laying a chess style board on Las Vegas, and thought it might be close to where I imagined the "G5" square would be. Didn't know if this, itself, might be some connection to "masterplan," in which case, maybe we will end up with similar grid coordinates related to Las Vegas that could lead us to something.

Looking again at this: maybe "SZ"? We did get that SZdeF clue at one point.

I noticed at least one other thing. When you blow up the Argon sign and the semi-globe falls out, the empty space it leaves looked a lot like a giant "U" to me. I have a hard time believing that it is one of Rob's "4 Big, Colorful Letters," given the off-handed way he talked on the Twitch clip. Still, it's quite big, putting it on par with the giant "Z" in Zaraby. In order, from most to least probable, in my opinion: (1) Just a coincidence, not a "U." (2) a "U," but its own clue somehow. (3) a "U," and one of Rob's "4 Big Colorful Letters," and even then, it's not particularly colorful once the Argon sign is destroyed.

Random association, so last speculation for now, but if "SZ" is the "Masterplan Markup," perhaps it means swapping S's for Z's and vice versa.
The 4 biggest letters in the middle of the map, if you include the "U" hiding behind Argon, would seem to me to be Z, E, D, U. Initially, I thought, wouldn't it be nice if the "D" were an "S" and we could have ZEUS. But now (again, based on very tenuous logic), if Z -> S, we would have the letters we need for DEUS. Somehow, it reminded me of "Masterplan."

[unkempt dune]

You know, hex could be referring to hexagon. Hex -> Hexagon -> Nut (hardware) -> Nut (goddess)

[dusk siren]

Also, I've always thought the "Z" in the Zaraby sign was awfully weird, imho. I wonder if we could take some liberties with that letter.
If we also read it as "Laraby," for instance. "Laraby," itself, would yield a few potential associations, but mainly, if we had an "L" to play with as one of our "4 Big, Colorful Letters," we might not have to do an arbitrary S/Z swap, and still get something like DUEL.

Yeah, quite a stretch, that one.

Potential "SZ" -> "S/Z" connection (I knew I'd seen that somewhere.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/Z

Another stretch, here, would be connecting the "deF" in "SZdeF" to Ferdinand de Saussure. Throwing stuff against the wall, obv

[austere rover]

Took some thinking but I figured it out

[white patrol]

wanna spin it counter clock wise? since the finals logos can also act as a arrow

[austere rover]

Here you are!

[white patrol]

yay!! thanks!!!

[white patrol]

If The Finals Logo acting as a arrow, spinning counter clock wise might indicate the rotating platform's descend (the one on Bernal) :3
It spins clock wise when ascend

[austere rover]

Ooh.. Yeah it does!

That's actually neat

[frozen oxide]

I knew the logo was a F but with it spinning like that it’s so obvious now can’t believe I didn’t notice it when the game came out

[wicked pier]

banana pineapple banana...
taunting us with the number 3 again...

[atomic rock]

Pineapple in French is also Ananas so I think it’s just the ananas update

So if we remove everything but the Ananas we’re left with B, could B be special? 🤔

[worn rivet]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdkgeCpK/

28 might be a detroit become human reference?

(We had rob say something about 28 right?)

[inland hemlock]

yes, 28 comes up a bunch of times, also, rob's account number is "28"
it also appears in Arc Raiders

he also said "Remember 28" a bunch of times already, some think this might also be a BFEE connection #1201288968562552863 message
tho i wouldn't know why it would connect to DBH

[wispy edge]

I think I may have found something?
Either that, or that was a bug

Discord won't let me uploasd, so let me get that on YT

[inland hemlock]

neato! could you briefly explain it first? we might already know what you are talking about!

[wispy edge]

A floating dead body in Heavy Hitters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnJOFHiupNA

[inland hemlock]

lmao, grim sight, but yeah that's a bug, sometimes the coin animation doesn't play and you get, well that

[wispy edge]

What is that skin tho?

Oh I guess it's the tiger outfit, but without the team color

[inland hemlock]

maybe, but it's also part of the bug, it might be the original outfit of that player, maybe the panda one?

[wispy edge]

Could be
Anyways, thanks for explaining 🫡

[inland hemlock]

no problem at all!

[white patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-sleep-dog-dawg-eeper-gif-5083970977419902566

[inland hemlock]

too much ospuze makes you sleepy???

[hoary tendon]

I found an easter egg

..

I cant send image though fsr

[dull sundial]

Anyone knows what the code on the bottom of the "Hammered on juice" sledgehammer is for?
Might just be attention of detail but it doesn't look like your standard soda can codes.

I think it says 438-765-912-619

[hoary tendon]

🤔🤔🤔

[rugged breach]

You can dm to soemone with perms and have them upload it on your behalf if you want!

[inland hemlock]

yeah you need to level up by sending messages, i can send it for you, but could you briefly explain it, maybe we know it already?

[hoary tendon]

In sys horizon you can see a vaiya symbol out of bounds where the dolphins were

So who can i send screenshot to?

[inland hemlock]

like this one? #easter-eggs message

[rugged breach]

Did it move from where it was or is there a chance you're misremembering where the dolhpins are?

[hoary tendon]

The red box

Bottom

Nvm u found it

[inland hemlock]

ah oki! we know about it already! but good eye

[hoary tendon]

Very nice community 👍👍

[rugged breach]

Not solved it yet though 🥲

That said it's a great entry point to get people into the ees

[hoary tendon]

Btw was the french speeking on monaco always there

?

Bc i just noticed it like in 6.9 or is that just me

[full plinth]

yeah

[mossy wedge]

It wasn’t noticed much in the #1315046366417915994 , so I’m sharing it here as well.
▫️ The grid with a red dot outside the map is a 7×7 layout, and the dot is pointing at cell (3:4)
▫️ I calculated the map size on SysHor (~212×230) and found the center of the map
▫️ From there, I moved to the left, exactly as indicated by the grid
▫️ Exactly 30 meters from the center (which is the same as the width of one grid cell: 212/7) which should be exactly the middle of the red square of the grid outisde the map, I found another hidden grid, approximately 7×4.5 in size.
▫️ There are undestroyable roots in that area, which might be pointing toward another location on the map that we need to discover

the next "thing" might be in this area. The stairs are starting within 30m which is exactly the width of the grid cell. Hard to say what is the height since the new grid is not 7x7 but 7x4.5 so it might be 33-51meters

[dusk siren]

I really like this a lot... better than my idea. When I went in the map, I tried to line those up to be exactly W and N, though, and ended up at the house at the foot of the cliff, way to the edge of the map. A little simplistic, but the Lost Legacy map is, after all, a ripped off corner, so maybe corner of the map would not be a bad coincidence to have. That's as far as I got, though. I'm gonna hop back in later today, I hope, but I think that is definitely an interesting area to search, between the house you identified and the one I'm thinking of looking into.

[dusk siren]

You guys are the experts, so I take your word for it, but what's wrong with this, just so I know for the future.
Literally in the spot on the map. Or is it just that everyone has looked into it already?
I don't even think it would add anything, since Rob has since given an "SZ..." clue separately, but I need to know if it's like a graphics setting thing or just an artifact. Thx in advance.

[dusk siren]

B_B? The "ananas" thing is cool!

[atomic rock]

Bpb, bios parameter block

Here’s the Google definition

[dusk siren]

I think there is definitely something connected to this kind of thing in the puzzle that we haven't dug into yet. 101 Hex Editor. "Get cracking." Etc. Pls figure it out, thank you. 😅

No, but seriously, that is a good potential lead. Will try to follow it up.

[atomic rock]

I would love to help…. I just don’t know what I’m doing, it’s been a minute and I’m still trying to find my way back to where to start searching lol.

Also the coordinates on the level 3 page I’m not even gonna bother searching cause I know someone already did it here, they lead to anything?

[dusk siren]

Nothing definite that I'm aware of. I think a lot of people have some vague theories (I know I do), but I think all we need is to get one confirmation and dominos might start falling.

[atomic rock]

Ah

So I should search them anyways

Got it

[worn rivet]

well 28 apears to be important there as well

[dusk siren]

Re: 🍌 🍍 🍌
In addition to BIOS parameter block (BPB) and the "ananas" idea, the other wikipedia article that looks interesting is bromophenol blue (BPB).

[full knot]

GUYS THERE IS NUMBERS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE OSPUZE SLEDGE SKIN

your welcome

[ornate aspen]

AHEM your’e, get it right

[dusk siren]

You might have to check my assumptions, but I'm also going to look at this theory later (based in large part on your "pagoda tower = mountain" idea). Just in case you run out of other places to look and you haven't committed enough masochism, yet.

It's also possible that the "mountains" aren't the pagoda towers (though I doubt it, the idea that "mountains = height" is too intuitive, imo). The main basis for this would be the fact that Kyoto's "Five Mountains" were all more like the shorter and bigger large temples.

Example:

If the "Five Mountains" idea is important, then perhaps the "Home Sweet Home" is a reference to a real world location triangulated from a northern Five Mountain temple and a western Five Mountain temple (though, again, I doubt it).

[atomic rock]

So I went back to the coordinates on the page and I noticed the picture on the wiki shows a different coordinate for the third row than the other two were showing, think it was intentional? The listed numbers on the wiki also don’t show this one

It’s just the last number being 55.09871 instead of 37.16174

[alpine junco]

72.58514 64.02630
15.70363 23.22150
27.86234 12.98314
81.75162 37.16174
46.69812 55.09871

81.69812 55.09871

INTERESTING! 🤔

[atomic rock]

I’m on a phone so the website looks different and I can’t compare all the rows at once on a video so when I get home I was gonna do that and record it so I get the frame by frame

But that’s like 5 hours from now

[atomic rock]

I was thinking that maybe there will be repeat numbers across them all and that maybe only 1 of them never changes and that’ll be the main one we have to focus on

Because if you look at their locations they’re all deserts/oceans

[alpine junco]

two of them have the same 2nd part

the rest are unique

[atomic rock]

So you saw it happen while watching the animation?

That image I posted is directly from what’s on the wiki

Kinda surprised if it wasn’t noticed

[alpine junco]

trying to see

weird thats been there for this long and not noticed

[atomic rock]

Agreed

[alpine junco]

it's also the island right next to the one we have

[atomic rock]

I love that they all have Google reviews lmao

“I met a polar bear”

Imagine one of those islands has a Google
Review from Rob that is just a password

[alpine junco]

i noticed that the 81.69812 55.09871 flashes quite quickly

not like the others

[atomic rock]

So it does show up? And only that one does?

[alpine junco]

seems like it to me

[atomic rock]

Interesting, also weird how out of all the shots that were taken they got one with that in it for the wiki, would’ve never noticed it without that

Maybe there’s a 6 letter work that relates to where each point is

Or maybe it spells another location we should look at

[gloomy anvil]

I took the screenshot for the wiki, I did so in a way that captures one part of the screen a split second before the other. I can't test it now or say anything for sure, but it's possibly just that.

[atomic rock]

So you think it’s a bug?

[unborn pilot]

i think that's an artifact of the GIF as it tries to use transparency maybe to blend between frames. ive seen issues like that on my phone. but If you take the actual GIF and open it in photoshop you see there's 5 frames & 5 sets of coordinates.

[gloomy anvil]

trying to screenshot rcade's file in the same way produces the same effect

[sharp flame]

It'd be crazy if that's intended

and we have to use the horizontal shuffling like that

[atomic rock]

Damn thought there might be something

Have you tried looking at the antipodes of those coordinates?

[fresh quiver]

Bell Island 😄 funny enough that a island is named like that and we earlier got the clue JBB

[unborn pilot]

ugh, always some coincidences 😂

[alpine junco]

it's not a bug if it's a feature

[sharp flame]

wrong channel oops

[alpine junco]

i didnt see anything

[atomic rock]

Antipodes all lead to ocean so not this

Time to do the last thing where I find the center location of all the points and see what it says

I get…. Here?

Ukraine

At least it’s not a desert or ocean?

[fading vigil]

If you’ll need to translate something from Ukrainian - ping me

[atomic rock]

Understood 🫡

[dusk siren]

A few observations/questions for Kyoto experts (I'll post screenshots when I get the chance):

• I imagine it has been noticed before, but there seemed to be an indestructible tree along the edge of the map between the cliff and the villa compound. I just assume any tree with flowers in a Japan map is most likely to be a cherry blossom, but when I jumped up in the tree, it seemed like the flowers all had 6 petals. I have no idea how to identify trees with 6-petaled flowers, but it was interesting that there is a special word for cherry blossom trees with >5 petals (yaezakura, which is a specific example of so-called double-flowered trees). Could be analogous to a "4-leaf clover"? One other possibility could be some sort of magnolia. A Steel Magnolias reference, due to the indestructibility?
• I noticed three coniferous trees in the general vicinity, which I suspect could make two reasonable pairs if we were trying to match to this weapon skin, using the Kyoto pagoda towers to represent the mountains and looking for a pair of conifers on either side of a "house."
• Q: Anybody make anything of the Caesar shifts of HSH (from "Home Sweet Home")? XIX is one, but not sure how that would help or be anything new at this point.

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A while ago Rob made a nitrogen joke on twitch right?

In case he did, Siverskodonetsk first originated as a nitrogen fertilizer manufacturing area

Probably nothing serious but you never know

#easter-eggs message

This is around the conversation I’m remembering