easter-eggs

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1092485647635320872.webp?size=48

good idea ngl, nice thinking!

[wicked pier]

there isn't anything related to emergencies or medical equipment in las vegas, isn't it?

[white patrol]

as far as I can remember no, but Seoul/Skyway has it along with some other maps

[alpine junco]

50:50, Phone-a-Friend and Ask the Audience

which means paying for a hint was an extra option

hehe

[white patrol]

when odds are overwhelming, I get overwhelmed

[gloomy anvil]

if we treat it as 1: XY, 2: RR, 3: 1X2, then the Asia component (either Seoul or Kyoto) would be what 1X2 associates with in some way

it's also possible that XY, RR, 1X2 are for only one MW.AREA, so for example 2C: XY, 2B: RR, 2A: 1X2

[wicked pier]

XY = 2 variables
RR = Real numbers? there's 2 of them?
1X2 = possibly an operation or solution

[gloomy anvil]

1X2 is a term for sports betting odds if we were to take it literally

[wicked pier]

maybe it should be read as "1 crosses 2"

or maybe we need to replace X, literally as if it were a string

"1"+x+"2"

so X can be anything, even a .

[wicked pier]

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/101655/0961/8051-Instruction-Set-Manual/Instructions/RR

RR - Rotate Right one bit

[dusk siren]

Good catch! Either means the star thing is more likely or less likely (great). If this is the same idea, though, those 3 stars might be pointing to "TEL"

What if... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Won-rAlxTw

This not entirely unrelated to that TEL-Skyway network-Skyway Stadium-De Sable Hotel idea, since I'm pretty sure it went through Chicago (btw - I original posted about this Skyway thing because of it being an early "RR" = radio relay and also going cross country from NYC to San Fran) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Baptiste_Point_du_Sable

I really want "xyRR1x2" to be "MORRROW," now... don't always get what you want, though.

Some associations:

• if xy are just variables, then why not XY = MO
• if 1x2 is indeed a row matrix then why not 1x2 = ROW
• bracketed with an "MW" (like in the Level 3 MW.Areas)
• MORRROW = MORROW having to do with days and dawns
• rotational symmetry around the "RRR," perhaps 3 rotations around the RRR, i.e., the sun coming up 3 times
• Rob saying R-r-r-upertius had me thinking we might get a "R-R-R..." somewhere, i.e., as many R's as we might need
• Three R's kinda nice, maybe three dawns (three morrows) association

Perhaps a further Chicago-Skyway connection https://www.chicagoskyway.org/the-skyway/

[glad lake]

regardless if this is something or not this is a really interesting watch

[dusk siren]

I thought so too! 🙂

Sable-Chicago connection: Mercury Sable and its Ford Taurus counterpart were both manufactured in Ford's Chicago Assembly Plant, Ford's oldest continuously operated mfg plant, on Chicago's South Side https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Sable

DuSable Park in Chicago interesting, too... I'm gonna look and see if the area bears any resemblance to Skyway Stadium's layout

It's interesting that there are canals around the area of the park. Accounting for the chasms cutting through Skyway??? Sorry, trying not to force this connection too much

[gloomy anvil]

Something I keep forgetting to factor in is that the coordinates are seperately attached to each MW.AREA. Which implies they can be interpreted or treated differently for each. It's weird having 5 coordinates though, doesn't seem to line up with the requirement of 3 solutions (Xs) per-area and you can't exactly make an "X" with more than 4.

Something you can do is make triangles of three points for each area, starting with point 1 for area 1, point 2 for area 2, and point 3 for area 3; that ensures all 5 coordinates are involved. It's kinda random though so this probably isn't what we're supposed to do. Still just in case here are the areas of each

• 1: 4,702,753 km²
• 2: 4,174,669 km²
• 3: 8,924,955 km²

it's so hard to work out what to do with the coordinates

maybe "Kara" was correct all along, but Rob never gave it any acknowledgement

he might've said "K R" in that clip we were discussing yesterday, but not sure

[worn rivet]

do we have a password?

[gloomy anvil]

no

[worn rivet]

Why not?

[dusk siren]

Whether or not the stars point to letters in the signs they appear in, they are interesting themselves.

• In the Glamora star, one could note the fact that it's 8-pointed and in a shape perhaps most associated with the Star of Bethlehem
• Taking the four stars across the three signs of Argon, Glamora, and Eastwood, you get one 8-pointed, one 4-pointed, and two 5-pointed stars
• Possible association to 8 = H, 5 = E, 5 = E, 4 = D.... or HEED (or maybe H33D, kinda like S33K)

[alpine junco]

yes, technically

theoretically and meta-physically

[burnt sun]

If anyone is down to investigate LV further, I've got time today :P

[spice lark]

have we progressed anywhere in the past 6 months?

[vagrant mauve]

I'm watching prohub finals rn but once it's over I'm down to look at Vegas. I need to get back on the Nama hunt

[dusk siren]

We don't talk about that. (Actually, we do.)

Another thing driving me crazy

[vagrant mauve]

We have more delusions 🔥

[dusk siren]

the true definition of progress

[burnt sun]

in terms of passwords solved or EEs done, no - in terms of getting more connections and hints - a lot

[dusk siren]

Wonder if this is anything for "pentafoil" or "cinquefoil" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentilla_argentea

[burnt sun]

thanks for the reminder, also turning in :D

[dusk siren]

this potentilla has some potential, imho (rosacea, roses, silver)

Wow... lots of potentilla already in the thread! Good sign or bad sign.

No association yet between the potentilla argentea and pentafoil/cinquefoil that I could find

Many other "cinquefoil" plants, as well.

example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentilla_norvegica

Anyway... fwiw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinquefoil_(disambiguation)

Was also looking for a rounded font that had that shape for its asterisk, but no luck, afaik

[alpine junco]

Dasiphora fruticosa

[dusk siren]

it's the separation of the "arms" and lack of perfect rotational symmetry (as far as I can see) that is so infuriating

I was so desperate, I was looking at gingerbread men silhouettes, never mind turtles

I really thought the font idea was the best bet, but maybe it is simply pointing to "cinquefoil" and we have to go from there. Lots of good plants in there, as you've found, obviously.

[alpine junco]

jasmine

[dusk siren]

See what I mean, though? Close, but no cigar, as far as I can see

[crisp eagle]

I always thought it was the flower shapes we have on Bernal right next to the church

[vagrant mauve]

@burnt sun booting up my computer now

lmk the room code when you have it

[alpine junco]

what if it just means 5

[burnt sun]

Z3AR

[dusk siren]

someone was talking about a church idea yesterday that I thought sounded like something to try to run down

anybody try to raze every house of worship in the game yet (geez, sounds more sacreligious than I expected it to)

[dusk siren]

better not be 🥹

[burnt sun]

I stumbled across a light that behaves very different. It turns on/off by proximity. It's clientside though - if 2 players are around, it will only light up for them if they're the one being close to it.

[gloomy anvil]

are there any "on" lights elsewhere that are visible from further away?

as in, don't turn off when you move back

[burnt sun]

yeah, basically all the other lights

its only this specific lamp

[gloomy anvil]

gotcha

[crisp eagle]

does it turn on and off for you whenever someone else gets near it?

[burnt sun]

No, as I said its clientside. But it behaves the same for Fysics

[crisp eagle]

oh oops haha I missed where you said clientside

[burnt sun]

its the only light for him too, that behaves like that

[vagrant mauve]

proof its not just that kind of light

[rugged breach]

What setting are you both on? Including global illumination

[burnt sun]

glob. illu is static for me

global illu resolution is low

view distance high, shadows low

the lamp itself, even in that specific setting next to a bed, is all around that specific floor and the map in general. just in this room it acts so weird

[vagrant mauve]

everything high but static illu, I did try changing to epic and stuff. Can see if it changes with raytracing rq

[alpine junco]

i cant find this image on the miro board for some reason

[gloomy anvil]

because we got no clues from it

[unkempt dune]

I don't think we found anything in it except like one thing..?

[alpine junco]

you know what i noticed in it?

[gloomy anvil]

oh one

[alpine junco]

... S

or if it's a space IE

[unkempt dune]

for Internet Explorer 😏

[unkempt dune]

I believe that was in the metadata though, right?

[gloomy anvil]

the binary is by the footer iirc

#1205252969348595753 message

[alpine junco]

going thru all the recent art so seeing if we missed anything

[alpine junco]

i mean, WWW

isnt this the only one artwork with one thing in it

[gloomy anvil]

I always considered it odd that we only found that binary and nothing else

but maybe Rob really did only put one thing in

[alpine junco]

and the image after that was L3AIM

[gloomy anvil]

besides I_Want_to yes

the QB image was during T3

[burnt sun]

I ran around LV and simply took note of all 4-letter-words that are somehow bright and colorful. The area should be roughly were we estimated rob could've went to while dying inside Zaraby and then flying around as a ghost for about 8-9s before spotting the word.

Rest (Slotmachines)
Exit (Exit Signs)
Keno (outside red band)
Pour (ospuze logo)
Mini (prize size on slot machines)
Star (steakhouse sign)
Wins (Slotmachine)
Spin (slotmachine)
Coin (Slotmachine)
Deco (art deco)
Eggs (Steakhouse sign)
York (between "Rob's" Shops outside map)
Odds (sign with dices on street)
Hold (Poker signs on street)
Beef (Big Steak House Las Vegas Sign Outside)

bit further away we also have:

Cage (end of eastwood casino)
High (end of eastwood casino)

[alpine junco]

also L3AIM and WRD3HM are both aiming left

[dusk siren]

Does that say "SUS"... jk. Good find!

[dusk siren]

btw - i am spamming the main channel, but how does one know that if you post to the correct thread that anyone will see it in a timely fashion? Maybe I'm not using discord correctly.

[fading vigil]

God, why you showed that to me?
Now I see another face

Or I am trippin?

[dusk siren]

Look what you've done, Big Oil. Anyway, now that you've opened the box, is this a number?
125111 or something? EDIT: 125118 -> LEAR... yeah, I know

Feel like these are like those line segments and angles from the Iseult image. Not just the random scratches or lines everywhere else in the image. Maybe just an optical effect that you guys already know to ignore?

sry - did you create a special thread for this image already @alpine junco ?

[dusk siren]

a crude "21" and back to "blackjack"?

[vagrant mauve]

in this corner of kyoto the cashbox freely moves OoB and ignores collision with most pieces of the environment. This isn't normal, as seen when it hits the barrier. Maybe related to lost legacy sticker? idk.

something satisfying about it

may just be a glitched corner of the world tho

[dusk siren]

Is this just how an artist generates these images, where line segments are used in a subtle way to create the illusion of something rounded? The right side of the helmet seems like a curve, but the left side, and the stripe down the middle seem to consist of a definite number of line segments.

I think I'm thinking too hard about this again

[burnt sun]

I followed that idea and deforested whole bamboo forest in kyoto with the MGL to keep as much as explosions as possible happening at all the rock formations... Nothing so far

[dusk siren]

Maybe haven't had a good geographic location associated with the color black in a while.
From cinquefoil, to "the hardy spring cinquefoil (P. neumanniana), the floral emblem of Cromartyshire," to the Black Isle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Isle

[burnt sun]

@low escarp - again following your idea of the destruction trigger, all of this has been destroyed by MGL without a finding so far

[hard current]

but what password…

@fading vigil have you tried it in any of the password pages?

[fallen summit]

just tried and not lvl3 (shocker)

[hard current]

damnit

still cool

maybe it’s for the future?

[fallen summit]

@gloomy anvil put it in miro?

[hard current]

for any of the pages? :/

is it possible redwhalefield means something else?

[gloomy anvil]

remember we got this image in tier 3

could be for anything though

even a diamond clue

[hard current]

interesting yeah I wonder if it connects to a diamond clue we’ve missed

probably not related since that’s brand new info for 2025 january and this was likely created years ago

remember rob made the hunt over the course of years iirc

well before 2025

[fallen summit]

true true

deleted it so it dosent fill the chat

[craggy narwhal]

or R.W.F?

[dusk siren]

Cinquefoil -> cinquefoil knot -> Solomon's Seal knot -> Solomon's seal
note: @dull marsh and @snow walrus were working on this first. Check their posts for more. @neon stream posted Seal of Solomon once before, as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon's_Seal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Solomon

Another star, to the extent we might be collecting them

Now that "Hex" is confirmed, interesting that there hasn't been a recent mention of a "hexagram" in the thread. Fact that it is composed of reflected triangles perhaps interesting, as well.

Solomon's seal also associated with pentagrams or pentangles, with subsequent association with Sir Gawain and the Green Knight and, later, a British folk rock band named Pentagle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Gawain_and_the_Green_Knight
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentangle_(band)

[dusk siren]

If one were to take the horse with human arms theory seriously, possibly a Bojack Horseman reference?

[dusk siren]

Man, this is good! I know others have worked on this, too, but this is laid out well.
Q: What if you only take the letters where the outline is definitely burnt out?
Might look different from in the game, but from your images, I only got EPESR when working from that assumption.
If this seems plausible to you or anyone else, then it might be that we don't double the E and get a candidate for the 4-letter clue (REPS), or you get things like PEERS, SPREE, SPEER, ESPER, PERES, or PERSE, all of which have wikipedia entries, and which might be a potentially separate clue altogether.
Sorry if I'm off base. Like I said, it might be clearer from inside the game that the other letters are obviously "out," as well.

---

Re: the 4 casino signs
I think I've exhausted all my ideas after this, but if you just take the letters that stand out from the rest on their respective signs, you might select the enormous Z from Zaraby, the enormous E and D from Eastwood, and the O with a star in it from Argon.
Result: DOZE
The craziest thing is that you might have found the same word over a year ago (see image). Wonder if anybody still remembers that.

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1099086249681223710.webp?size=28&animated=true

thanks tom

some lights are off some lights are dim, I had the same thought but I kinda forgot about it

[dusk siren]

Just trying to think of a motivation for DOZE, especially in the context of earlier passwords, and having the idea of missing parts of things and letters in my mind, what if DOZE made sense as a clue/password because it is DOZEN (as in, a dozen eggs) but missing an N.
As Rio just suggested, though, I am in full chasing my own tail mode at this point. sry, all

[white patrol]

hold.. up

tom I have a idea

thanks for bringing the sperpentes up, I think I found something

[dusk siren]

Don't get me wrong. I like serpentes a lot! It has come up before, as well, iirc

[dusk siren]

don't hold back now 🙂

This is amazing. If it deciphered to that specific string, that has to be real (in some sense, anyway).
I love that it is color-coded.
I love that it has 3 parts.
I love that we have locations where one would find whales, fields, or things coded red.

[white patrol]

Serpentes is Snake/Serpents suborder, and that kind of set the theme of biology. (Carl Linnaeus is a biologist after all)
Now we look at WHERE, "Serpentes" as a word showed up in game? Argon Casino

Combing aspect of biology and Serpentes and Argon, we get

"The Serpents Are gone"
which if we say this in aspect of biology, that means
Serpent's ancestor.

The serpents once existed but forgotten in evolution.
lead us to:

Burrowing lizard

[dusk siren]

Normally, I would say this is plain crazy, but... how about this interpretation:
"The Serpents Are Gone" = something relating to the extinction of the dinosaurs

I guess it's not great

serpents standing for dinosaurs?

[white patrol]

yes good idea, we have a mammoth in sys, we have huge natural disaster theory in arc raiders, extinction is not so far away of a theme

[dusk siren]

lol... when I search for "serpent" and "dinosaur" simultaneously, most of the articles are about biblical references.
maybe that isn't a bad thing.

[white patrol]

Are gone is a rose clue btw, so it is (maybe) not that crazy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1341374199020785725.webp?size=48

[dusk siren]

Wait a sec, the most obvious interpretation of "The Serpents Are Gone" would be as a reference to St. Patrick driving the snakes out of Ireland, I would think. Metaphorically. Anyway... 🙂

[low escarp]

explosions dont work on the monaco golden egg
neither does flame thrower
best way to do it is qm or hammer

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1372238089568653403/0511_1.gif

[wicked pier]

Don't we have some weapon skins with orange shiny snakes?
Orange is also Las Vegas' color in game...

And also Las Vegas is the only one with a sandstorm variant, which might be an habitat of some sorts?
Hidden snakes -> year of the snake like year of the rabbit (2023) brought us hidden rabbits?

[white patrol]

I'd like to think Las Vegas sand storm has something todo with burried city but everything can be possible

[burnt sun]

Damn .. okay that still leaves some room in the marked areas then .. ..

[alpine junco]

what if Aegean is AEGEAN and similar to ASCONCE

it is AEGEAN on the carabiner so it would only make sense

[alpine junco]

3 1/2 5/2 6 13 15 14
3 .5 2.5 6 13 15 14
3x.5x2.5x6x13x15x14
61,425

possibly a distance?

[low escarp]

explain
where did the nubers come from

[buoyant vector]

LFG with @exotic rose Ruby dm him your embark id

[exotic rose]

NO DO NOT DM IT

[velvet narwhal]

Image: https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1332285869574590515

[dusk siren]

Anything special about the painting on the wall there, maybe?

[dusk siren]

Not sure real world locations within Finals maps have helped so far (perhaps someone has a perfect example), but perhaps we could think in terms of real world "vault" locations (banks, museums)?
Example: I'm not sure the location of the Homotsukan (Treasure Museum) is within the bounds of the Kyoto map, but just as an example of the thinking.

To take @low escarp thinking about the Monaco Lost Legacy connection, it might be worth expanding the logic, though. In that case, the lost legacy was connected to the cathedral (the ruins, specifically). Of course, cathedrals feature architectural "vaults," which kinda fits the line of thinking.
EDIT: People have noted the door in the vault on the map fragment. Would seem to fit the idea, as well.

[dusk siren]

I like this idea. Seems such an obv thing to do one you actually did it. What about a sum? The halves fit nicely. Assuming we identified the numbers correctly from the image, I get 57. 🤷

61,425... Maybe crazier connections to obscure numbers have been found, so, could it be an attendance figure from a Chicago Bears-Pittsburgh Stillers game from the Chicago Bears famous 1986 championship season? We have had prominent American football imagery... course, I've had Chicago on my mind since yesterday, so I'm biased.

[burnt sun]

Nah, its mostly 1 floor with 1 of the same picture in every room :s
Theres only very few unique ones

[hard geyser]

i don't think it is important but on the practice range, the café name is "Le coin" and a bistro with the same name existshttps://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g189934-d26682073-Reviews-Bistro_Le_Coin-Helsinki_Uusimaa.html

[alpine junco]

They made the cafe after The Finals, talk about copyright infringement

[hard geyser]

https://lecoin.fi/en/

[hard geyser]

considering how new the finals is i think that le coin was there before it

[glad lake]

Very likely just a funny coincidence

[hard geyser]

yep

also it has an image of an ice cream

definitely just coincidence.

[rigid adder]

I have never noticed that label ever before 🙏☠️

[hard geyser]

i just found out that you can go inside these throwing practice things

[alpine junco]

is joke :p

[rigid adder]

Holy cow

[glad lake]

"This is my hole! It was made for me!"

[hard geyser]

i know they wouldn't do it, but it would be very cool if the top one had some secret lounge with a bean bag, a tv and some other stuff

and just cans of ospuze lying around

why can i change the hair on barry?

[glad lake]

why wouldnt you be able to?

[hard geyser]

now he looks like some target that escaped

"it just appeared nowhere... and it shot all my friends"

"i have been hiding here for years"

[glad lake]

"I'M NOT GOING BACK TO THAT RANGE"

[hard geyser]

i think they should do that

or like a voiceline like
"And the live wires are-
SCOTTY ONE OF THE TARGETS ESCAPED!
WHAT? HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE!?!?
IM NOT GOING BACK THERE AGAIN!
AAAHH
Rogue ai succesfully defeated. in the background silently"

[dusk siren]

sry to bug you on this, but i dont know where that room is. Is there a room number or anything else to identify it for someone who wants to see the effect?

[burnt sun]

Nono man, all good all fine :D It should be the second/third floor of Eastwood..and iirc no rooms have any specific numbers to them. Only the floors

[low escarp]

its still possible that all 3 namas are on monaco and i thought the one we found is next to the still standing pillar and theres 3 of them

[white patrol]

yeah I checked area under pillars too but nothing really :c

[low escarp]

same

also this same type of stones are everywhere

[burnt sun]

on kyotos rubble theres a weird coal like stone

[burnt sun]

@prisma vapor @vagrant mauve maybe one of you screenshotted the leftovers of the kyoto destruction? basically its cube shaped pitchblack rubble

[prisma vapor]

i did not, but i saw that below the lake house in kyoto. unsure if they were black cause of the MGL explosions though

[burnt sun]

If thats the case, then they stay black though. Other non-destructible walls will "clear up" after some time

[vagrant mauve]

Nope, idk what you even mean

[dusk siren]

obv you guys dont need my help on this, cuz it sounds like steady progress to me, but thinking of @low escarp's comment about how qm or hammer seem to have been required to uncover the monaco golden egg, perhaps there is a correct tool or device for dealing with breaking the coal like stone??? flamethrower on the coal???

[slim harbor]

I used the search function here on Discord, but it doesn’t seem like anyone has mentioned this... so here you go:
https://imgur.com/a/iKopymY
I think I may have found a hidden letter in ready_.gif

[rigid adder]

https://x.com/reachthefinals/status/1924480233350000669?s=12

THE FINALS (@reachthefinals) on X

Spoilers. See you May 22!

X · May 19, 2025, 3:00 PM

[alpine junco]

finally getting the tiger ospuze pistol

[rigid adder]

Are you sure it’s coming back ?

[alpine junco]

i hope so

[low escarp]

qm or hammer arnt required u can just shoot the rock
only explosions and fire dont work

also what progress

[gritty crown]

God hears u

[white patrol]

is this found?

[velvet narwhal]

yes

[white patrol]

thanks nova

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/793287254432546856.webp?size=48

[alpine junco]

sadly there are another 8

[white patrol]

same type of spray you mean? oil

[alpine junco]

3/11 graffiti on monaco

we dont know what they look like

[white patrol]

hmm do we need trigger mechanic for them?

[rugged breach]

4, unless we're not counting s lies cause it's a different style

[white patrol]

are they used as clues?

[rugged breach]

Likely but we don't know for sure. Mostly going off of how little have been found both since the start and during the monkey hunt while scouring every pixel of the map

[white patrol]

you guys leveled the map too right?

[rugged breach]

Several times, yeah

[glad lake]

When were they added? or are have they been part of the game since launch?

[alpine junco]

ive leveled down monaco on skyway

[alpine junco]

since the beginning, season 1

[rugged breach]

Also worth noting there's 2 more monkeys that need something more to find and also the cathedral has spooky ghost sounds that are "there for a reason"

[white patrol]

the residential area?

[alpine junco]

yuh

[glad lake]

mh ok so unlikely needs stuff like the data reshaper to find them

[white patrol]

poggers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1006611338992295976.webp?size=48

[alpine junco]

@low escarp and i noticed that they moved one container closer to a building on Monaco, which is weird

the gap used to be about half a foot

[glad lake]

do you think embark might have planned for stuff like the Data reshaper / demat being added in S2 and graphiti is hidden behind that. like the lines on SYS?

[alpine junco]

hmmmm

demat rock walls

[slim harbor]

iirc, keyart for season 5 is leaked during open beta (or season 1)
so yeah, it's all planned

[glad lake]

guess im dematting every single wall

[gloomy anvil]

which one?

[alpine junco]

the one next to the plaza near the guard booth rob was spinning in

[burnt sun]

is there a collection of those which have been found?

[rugged breach]

https://coolstuffgoeshere.github.io/

[burnt sun]

exactly in here

[low escarp]

trying to summon the golden one

[glad lake]

It's not a Cult guys

[low escarp]

wild vault
i think i see some lines mabye text on the vault

[glad lake]

@low escarp honestly we should have tried different Gadgets / Specializations on the Vault floor now that im thinking of it.

[low escarp]

we tried anti grav and vortex

[glad lake]

hmm

[hoary stratus]

Is it possible to get a group together to complete the sunset dolphin easter egg? I really want the charm :/

[inland hemlock]

#easter-eggs message this one?

the dolphin charm is there to redeem!

[hoary stratus]

Thanks! I didn't realize there was a code for it

[inland hemlock]

yup! here's some context #easter-eggs message

[low escarp]

#1182955042416893984 message so we destroyed all of the hydrants at the same time
on old vegas standard variant

[low escarp]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n46-EIjZFmO9Y873iCPkz5XF0KHhbL2_/view?usp=sharing

[glad lake]

cries in water & roses

[low escarp]

#1292576119849095210 message
tried to waterdance

[inland hemlock]

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/EndearingNimbleStapleBleedPurple-rr7DClC9EW09_Hst i wanted to take a look at this again

[tepid adder]

Do you think the number of jets or their contrail colors is an Easter egg?

https://youtube.com/shorts/NxUhAQ8SRkk?si=l5C1E0SeI_5Np4Is

[hoary stratus]

Is there any way to explore the maps without other players? I really don't want to start throwing games by searching in those, but it won't let me explore alone otherwise.

[dusk siren]

Anybody willing to opine on this? I never know (a) what has already been found and (b) what is just my eyes playing tricks on me.
I see what DarKCroX is saying, I think.

[unreal jetty]

Anybody have the link to the red dot gif ?

[gloomy anvil]

Unfortunately no, but you can drop a message in #1217498821563514951 anytime you want to start a private match and somebody might join!

[hoary stratus]

Thanks!

[fading vigil]

Where this art is?

[dusk siren]

@slim harbor

[fading vigil]

Nvm, found it

Two frames
There is some sort of E or F, but it looks like stretch

(Orange is my underline, under the approximate E/F)

[vagrant mauve]

Defo a stretch but I see MHZ, starting a little left of your underline

[inland hemlock]

Hello hunters, if any of you has a video of this sequence in higher resolution please @ me!

im currently working on aligning every frame, example above, but i only have my low quality recording and im pretty sure it doesn't show the whole sequence

[fading vigil]

#1231616408270405762 message
might be helpful for you

[inland hemlock]

checked that already! it doesn't seem to have every single frame and they are way too low quality unfortunately

If I have time tomorrow, I'll go in again to record a better version. In the meantime, it's worth a shot to ask :P

[dusk siren]

Okay, I got a new project (sorry, all). Project Orp (Old Rob Posts).
So I might be dredging some stuff up (again, sorry, all), and apologies if I can't track down everything already covered in the past.
First up, a classic from @dull marsh
My contribution:
TL;DR - If no "orange dawn," then "orange night." If "orange night," then "blue dawn," "purple dawn," and "red dawn." This would make Zaraby the night, Glamora a dawn, Argon a dawn, and Eastwood a dawn. Perhaps only coincidentally (thought seemingly backwards), Zaraby is the only one without stars featured in the sign, while Glamora, Argon, and Eastwood do feature stars in their signs.

• If you start from the wikipedia search box and try "orange dawn," you get nothing, whereas "orange night" results in the following. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Night
• If you try "blue dawn," the only thing limited to that is "bluedawn" (though another music reference). As a positive, only one result. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluedawn
• If you try "blue night," you get many options to choose from, which might be good or bad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Night
• If you try "purple night," you get a single article and another music one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Night
• If you try "purple dawn," you get a single article and, in this case, an old silent film. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Purple_Dawn
• If you try "red night," you get a single article, another old silent film. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Night
• If you try "red dawn," well, unsurprisingly, you get many options to choose from. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn_(disambiguation)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Night

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn_(disambiguation)

I highlighted the first entry in "Red Dawn (disambiguation)" previously in this thread: John Milius's Red Dawn (1984)
Some notable Red Dawn (1984) trivia:

• The movie was filmed in and around the city of Las Vegas, New Mexico.
• The director John Milius was also one of the screenwriters on Dirty Harry and Magnum Force, famous Clint Eastwood movies.
• Milius also wrote a biographical film of Evel Knievel. Knievel experienced an infamously horrible accident trying to jump the fountains in front of Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas.
• The screenwriter Kevin Reynolds eventually directed an adaptation of Tristan & Isolde (2006)

If I find others like this, I'll try to limit them to one or so a day, for my sanity and yours.

[fading vigil]

somehow Argon dawn reminded me of a https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Argent_Dawn

[dusk siren]

Would love to wait for some confirmation, but I did have the following thought as a means to generate a 4-letter word.

• Suppose dawn = first letter in the name and night = last letter in the name
• Zaraby = night ------> Y
• Glamora = dawn ----> G
• Argon = dawn -------> A
• Eastwood = dawn ---> E
• Most obvious idea GAYE (which seems like it would most likely refer to Marvin Gaye, though there are other possibilities)
• Even if not, it is possible that "dawn = first letter in the name and night = last letter in the name" is still correct. We could try brute forcing the other possible permutations to see what other potential words we might generate. UPDATE: I think under this assumption, Zaraby being one of the dawns would pose a problem, as Z doesn't seem to offer a good candidate if I'm imagining things correctly.

Huh... YAGE
This one is kinda wild.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yage

[dusk siren]

"Magic Skyway"

https://www.disneyhistoryinstitute.com/2014/05/disney-history-institute-celebrates-2.html

[white patrol]

to make a EE hunt like this, I am actually not suprised if rob ever ospuzed it lol

[dusk siren]

ospuzed a new verb now

Another inspired by an old ludonope post on the red moon on Skyway Stadium that Rob eyed.

Red Moon (1990) was the title of an album by the group The Call.

Perhaps this is about "the [first] call" over AT&T's microwave telephony Skyway network and/or something about it (e.g., the date of the call, August 8, 1951).

Alternatively, Red Moon (1985) is the second game in Level 9 Computing's Time and Magik trilogy, published by Mandarin Software, released on all the good systems of the day.
Also, Mamamoo had an EP titled Red Moon (2018) featuring a song titled "Sky! Sky!" realeased in collaboration with the mobile game Icarus M.
Interesting connections through Kim Woo-seok (singer), who had a single titled "Red Moon."
Norwegian Eurovision contestant Red Moon had evocatively titled albums Phase I:XI and Phase 2:22.

[obsidian flicker]

Anyone know why the ceiling lights on skyway are sometimes red for seemingly no reason?

[white patrol]

it has a reason for sure but we just don't know it yet, it appeared in last CNS wt in S5
there's 3 type of light in total: red/green/yellow
#easter-eggs message

[obsidian flicker]

The traffic light easter egg...

[vagrant mauve]

The lights, the Vaiiya grid, sys horizon wall...

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[obsidian flicker]

I'd assume it's nothing, but is there an actual explanation for the roses in the training area that do not appear anywhere else in the game? Seems weird to model, texture, and add that to the game just to shove it in the back of the training map and nowhere else

[velvet narwhal]

It's an EE we haven't solved yet

you could look through the pinned messages in here if you're interested https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1203859365610922036

[low escarp]

why can we mine dirt in seoul ⛏️

[fresh quiver]

interesting. thats a good question why

[low escarp]

this is mineable

as far as i know this is the only dirt that works that way in the game

[alpine junco]

probably where we would watch the volcano ee on bernal

[low escarp]

u know how in pirates of the carabean they spin that thing on the ship to summon the kraken

[alpine junco]

yeah, was just doing that to the platform but timing the spins

theres about a 2 second cooldown between each button press

[crisp eagle]

That’s a good idea! Like a giant button to make it erupt I like it

[low escarp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8qmUV6PDGY

[fading vigil]

Like we should do something in 2 sec gap to trigger

[slim harbor]

it's on https://www.reachthefinals.com/t1-f

[low escarp]

what if we raise all lifts and walls in bernal

then all stand on the spinny to not touch the floor cuz its lava

[alpine junco]

maybe a reason there are so many little bridges connecting the buildings

and also probably a timed thing where u have to reach the spinning platform

[burnt sun]

If theres a connection to world of warcraft, I'd be baffled :D

[fading vigil]

Me too, frankly) but younger Rob lived in epic times of the internet, so world of Warcraft could be a big part of that times

[burnt sun]

I also lived in that time, playing WoW since release 21 yrs ago on and off :D

But I never thought "this might be connected" so far

Not saying there is no connection - but if then it's really well hidden and nuanced

[fading vigil]

Me too, but my country is a bit slower than other world, so my wow started at the end of bc and release of wotlk

Still miss that vibe of the wotlk and dk

[fading vigil]

Only 2 lifts?

Would be funny, if lava can flood the level

[burnt sun]

pm'ed u =)

[dusk siren]

@alpine junco and @low escarp onto something on Bernal, guys. Get in on the action while you can.

Is the spinny thing the "vault" from the Lost Legacy map? Something already suggested?

Yellow. Has door shapes at the base. Near those W/N mountains with what could be evergreen tree species nearby. (I'm prob getting the timing of everything wrong, though, as far as the map and cosmetics, aren't I?)

[dusk siren]

If you treated the initial phoneme of "argon" as the letter "R," instead of just the first letter "A," you could generate the word GREY.
Kinda nice, blend of light and dark, day and night.

[low escarp]

bernal as a map looks fitting with the ripped lost legacy sticker but bernal is s5 sticker s4
and i dont think we would get a map to a ee before we get the arena to do it in

[gloomy anvil]

I think you're right that they wouldn't release the map before the arena, but during this time Rob put a lot of focus on Season 5 for the main EE hunt. He said he'd start dropping clues again after it launched. When we asked about the Lost Legacy bundle that released in 4.10, he said something like "oh that was today?"

https://www.twitch.tv/waterdance/clip/ArtsyBlazingOpossumImGlitch-9r556yjN8Nj-xcE5

[tall anvil]

hi every one .hope you have a good time

[low escarp]

what is waterdance trying to say here

[glad lake]

u tried the Flamingos on the Center Stage right? Also the small circles for performers? Sorry for asking again lol

[warm tiger]

can someone join my private match pls i want to look for ee 22YZ

[glad lake]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1217498821563514951 idk if people are looking rn but I think most private lobbies are organized there!

[warm tiger]

ooh ok ty

[vagrant mauve]

What rituals are we trying to summon a gold nama now 😂

[atomic rock]

@inland hemlock you have the photos, anyways computer screens on horizon, do you think if we took each of the screens that pop up and aligned them properly (maybe colour the blue areas white to separate blank rectangles to non blank) they might make a code or a bar code or something

Maybe the blank areas will make some sort of binary or Morse code

[inland hemlock]

yeah, they clearly show a pattern we just need to align each frame, it is also possible that the pattern is visible only when the frames are moving so it could take quite a bit of work

[atomic rock]

Yeah I’m willing to film them Later tonight if I can get on, I can get them in the best quality possible then I’ll do a bit of colouring if I need to

So far I just copy the video you took

[inland hemlock]

that should get us started, thank you very much

[crisp eagle]

Haha did you post that on her server?

[alpine junco]

#easter-eggs message

[crisp eagle]

Also does anyone remember whenever the TNT skin for the C4 came out? I’m wondering if it’s a hint at what Pietjes is suggesting for Bernal. Like a plunger for TNT (volcano)

[alpine junco]

heres a higher res

[crisp eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/demolition-expert-explode-gif-15448905

[atomic rock]

Ok so now we just gotta paint

[glad lake]

Pretty sure it came out within season 5

[atomic rock]

Although, looks kinda different than the one we saw the other day

[alpine junco]

do you think there is a specific computer with more detail

[crisp eagle]

The empty spaces between the clips of characters makes me think of Tetris for some reason

[glad lake]

@vale drum you can find the insanity here and in the threads

[atomic rock]

Uh oh

[inland hemlock]

no, for now i don't think this is the case, i've checked out a lot of them and they all looked the same

[atomic rock]

I was thinking more of any space that letters show up get completely coloured in

[white patrol]

Imagine all that just give us a loss meme

[atomic rock]

That way it’s just open space and non open space

[alpine junco]

im noticing a lot of lines on some frames and some not having a lot

[white patrol]

#1231616408270405762 message
btw this is what Toxena collected, hope this helps

[alpine junco]

such as this one

[atomic rock]

Hmm think you could show what you mean, I gotta do some work for a bit

[inland hemlock]

they did a great job but unfortunately they are a bit too low quality and i think a couple of frames are missing

[alpine junco]

not a lot of lines

vs the one above with more

[gloomy anvil]

has anybody tried overlaying all the frames at once?

[inland hemlock]

i can try once we get all the frames

but i don't think that's the way, because here for example i've aligned 3 frames, i called this sequence "RVY" because i used those 3 letters to align everything

[rugged breach]

Incredibly roughbly, but yes

#easter-eggs message

[rugged breach]

Give it a shot!
#1231616408270405762 message

[inland hemlock]

i missed that lul

[rugged breach]

Always worth to doublecheck even if it's a re-discovery, I don't think there was another attempt and even then I was saying it's an incredibly rough job

[inland hemlock]

i just wanted to take a look at the sequence in higher quality, pibblix also reminded me of this clip: #1292576119849095210 message

rob described this EE as useless and complicated basically so i wonder if there's more to it

[austere rover]

It starts with a Q. Reminds me of qwerty

but there is no T, it is a V instead, and there is no W or E

there's evena [ on the right. as it is on the keyboard

The Finals ee enthusiasts when they noticed my message said
TV and WE
@__@

[fading vigil]

So the pc’s has cases on the table and under the table

[atomic rock]

I feel like if you were to take all the frame and put them in a square or something you might get a barcode, everything seems to be separated by perfectly straight lines

[austere rover]

I'd take note that it may or may not have several layers. May need a specific combination of frames to get what you are looking for

[atomic rock]

I was just looking at #1217498821563514951 message and thought that maybe it’s not even the computer but something appears on the desk when the lasers go off, he says “it’s working” as soon as the lasers go off

The other thing is that he says “it’s actually still there” before he’s even at the desk so it could be the physical object on the desk like the driver tower or the paper stack (whatever it is)

[fading vigil]

i`ve made minute recoprd of the screen, the same pc that Rob destroyed: https://we.tl/t-ryIoyovaP0 (200mb file)

[fading vigil]

there are a cup with pencils

on the right

The song Rob is “singing” is the same as about seoul elevators clue

This clip:

#easter-eggs message

[atomic rock]

What’s the box that I saw in the stream clip then?

[austere rover]

I think with you saying that there must be a specific desk that you have to be standing near for this to happen

Seems like they were using the orbital lasers to target specific computers, watching the screens for something while it happened

[worn rivet]

ROB IS ONLINE!!!

[glad lake]

[atomic rock]

That’s what I’m thinking

As of the code on the computer changes when the lasers come at them or something on the desk as a pattern that shows only before it’s about to be hit by the laser

Maybe you need all the desks to be destroyed at the same time by the lasers or something

Desks in that room at least

[austere rover]

They were done individually in the referenced video

Objects on the desks may be distinguishing identifiers

[atomic rock]

There’s 4 letters in the codes for level 3 right? Maybe each one of those computers show a different letter before they break?

[austere rover]

Perhaps something to do with exact location and or order

[atomic rock]

Or maybe each letter is linked with something on the desk

[austere rover]

Yeah, perhaps they do! Maybe that and a combination of the combined frames as mentioned earlier would shine a new light on this

[atomic rock]

Like maybe a D for drive rack, P for pencils, etc

[austere rover]

I did notice they were in the same order as shown on the keyboard, same orientation as well. As for where they appear on the screens, idk

But not all of the letters corrispond, some are changed

[atomic rock]

You mean on the screen?

[austere rover]

yes

[austere rover]

here<

[atomic rock]

Because looking at what’s shown it’s just everything in order alphabet, numbers symbols etc

#easter-eggs message

see if you fill in the blanks it’s the alphabet for this one

[austere rover]

Interesting!

So in the image after that one they are different...

[atomic rock]

Maybe each of the computers show a different order

Keyboard layout
Sequential layout
Phonetical layout
….

[austere rover]

!!!

[atomic rock]

Phonetical will be a pain to go through lol

[austere rover]

We will need reference keyboards or images

Would you say there are also different language characters in there?
such as Russian

[fading vigil]

pc ee is stand-alone, very "obscured" and not connected to the hunt

so, its can be fun to solve it but no clues for other ee`s

[austere rover]

What's the ee after? Rather, what's the group looking for

I never got a conclusive answer just by hanging out here, I never asked

[glad lake]

Like the end goal of the Big EE?

Or wich one are you referencing?

[austere rover]

Is there an end goal?

I know there are many different easter eggs

[glad lake]

Unclear and tbh unlikely? I mean maybe we get some sick Ingame events. Given that Rob was responsible for the Megalodon in Battlefield. But it's more of a the journey is the goal. And there are goodies on the way there. (i.e. Dolphin Charm)

[fading vigil]

As I remember correctly : there are a bunch of cosmetics, also a “secret room” on sys maybe with names of first finders or so
And just a fun for defeating “the mad hatter”)

Some of EE’s can be just funny map modifiers, like Bernal volcano (maybe it can flood the map by lava or something like that)

[wicked pier]

Finishing the EE will make Namatama happy.

[atomic rock]

That’s one thing I wish I knew, I don’t know what I’m supposed to be looking for

[atomic rock]

When I asked all the way back in season 2 he said there are no secret or hidden rooms yet

Was before Kyoto though

[fading vigil]

you can browse through the threads. barely every thread is connected to some EE. there are a lot of them, the main one is named "The Hunt". You can read about current search in the wiki, look at miro-board for understanding what clues was found\connected\approved by Rob

[atomic rock]

That sounds like a lot of reading

[fading vigil]

thats true)

but if you want to be on the same page - it`s worth it

[dusk siren]

Q for the EE hunt veterans:
Was the EE with the elevator outside of the map on Seoul ever solved?

[fading vigil]

nope

[atomic rock]

I want to, I just want the time to read it, however long it takes a normal person, multiply it by 12 for me. Reading disorders out the wazoo

[fading vigil]

iirc we dont know what elevator should be solved -.-

[fading vigil]

you can find RockhoundBlack on YT and get a big chunk of hunts via his videos

but if you want to participate some particular one EE - you should read the thread about it

[dusk siren]

good call. I've watched most, but not sure i really want to go back and watch them all. but yes, they are fire.

yeah, I was going back to old posts on the elevator. gonna forward a potentially relevant one. was hard to know whether it ever got resolved though just from the search

@gloomy anvil made a video of the elevator last November. The absolutely simplest interpretation working from his assumptions was just a series of F's, A's, U's, and N's. Just found it interestind that there was also an obscure post on a work of art featuring a FAUN that was coded according to a previous EE clue. Seemed to have been doubted at the time, but that format could easily have been other than a coincidence (I spent some time on the alternate interpretation of geographic coordinates and there was always an extra X that really bothered me, whereas this other interpretation does not seem to have that particular inconsistency). I wasn't there for any of this, though. 🙁
#easter-eggs message

[dusk siren]

A few watch cosmetics in the game all pointing to CASIO? Combined with Cassiopeia, were these potentially pointing to the Casio Cassiopeia line of personal digital assistants from back in the day?

Also, Cassiopeia was visible on Las Vegas, Eta Cassiopeiae is a binary star system, the Eastwood Hotel sign has two stars on it... fwiw (as always, likely nothing)

If there is anything to something like this, the hotel on Skyway has 3 stars on its sign. Perhaps a connection to some triple star system? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Triple_star_systems

Two star motif on the Eastwood sign possibly an obvious graphic design choice, but Robert Heinlein wrote a novel titled "Double Star" with a first-person protagonist who is an actor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Star

[dusk siren]

Ludonope's observation of color-coded signs on Las Vegas got me wondering about other colored things that could be relevant. There are solar spectra and stellar classifications. "Dwarves" (red dwarf, orange dwarf, yellow dwarf) and "Giants." In fact, I wonder if "fee-fi-fo-fum" might be a clue about giant stars (e.g., red giants?). Not sure how, but perhaps a "giant" that hasn't been carefully considered yet.

[gloomy anvil]

I still wonder why all the golden nama cosmetics and appearances pre-monaco had this ring/halo

[dusk siren]

Re: 1 night, 3 dawns
"Morning Star" idea:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHL0137-LS (single star, presumed)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius (binary star)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorus_(morning_star)

Notable mention: Mercury and Venus as "evening stars" and "morning stars" depending on their relative locations

[dusk siren]

Re: Skyway Hotel / triple star system (h/t @glad lake )
De Sable ---> DS ---> Delta Sculptoris? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Sculptoris

Less likely, Hotel De Sable = HDS = HD 53367 / HD 190655 triple star systems

Delta Sculptoris is "a candidate member of the AB Doradus moving group, an association of stars with similar ages that share a common heading through space." Doradus relating back to gold.

[velvet karma]

https://i.imgur.com/D3lhqp7.png

I don't think im on to something

[vivid swallow]

Whats the red dot wall outside border on Sys?

[gloomy anvil]

It's a VAIIYA thing https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/SYS$HORIZON_Secrets#VAIIYA_Grid

[dusk siren]

Re: 4-letter Vegas word
I thought I was finally out of vaguely plausible ideas, but just thought of what is hopefully the last one.

• Focus entirely on the Eastwood sign: the oversized E and D are very prominent (not "colorful," so a strike against the idea, already)
• Next, look below at the small * DRIVE *: again, I wonder if the stars are pointing either to the D + E on the ends or to the S + O above.
• Inferred candidates: DEED, DEDE ( 😲 ), DOSE, ODES, DOES

[velvet karma]

dose is german for can as in beverage can

maybe an ospuze thing

[dusk siren]

Interesting. I think so many candidates have already been ignored by Rob, I just don't know what to think. DOSE might have been one that he's already ignored for a while.

I can't get in the game to check till I get my new PC, but is the "ON" brighter than the rest of the "ARGON" sign, or is that just a rendering effect from having those letters face head on in the image? Presumably just needs to be glanced at in game.
As a positive, the ARGON sign is quite colorful and quite large. Perhaps there are two other letters that stand out when you look closely at the other signs. Or... as I said, you go in the game and all the ARGON letters are actually illuminated exactly the same.

[dusk siren]

btw - I never thought much about that very obvious pedestal thingy in the middle of Las Vegas. Presumably people have simply stood on that and looked around to see if they can notice any subtle changes when they do?

[vagrant mauve]

It's just one good nama 😇

[fervent temple]

All I can think of when I see those letters is “DDOS” I’m sure that doesn’t help but it might

[dusk siren]

That's kinda interesting fr

I still think this idea (@low escarp was thinking along these lines way before me) is still worth running down.

Perhaps we ignore the silly little stars on Eastwood.
The Glamora, Argon, and Lapis Grandstand stars are great, though.
Are there any other large, preferably colorful, letters with a star in, on, or right next to it visible on the map, probably close to those other three?

Those three would yield G, M, O...
EDIT: Unfortunately or fortunately, the only common English words that can be made with those is SMOG and GLOM. Can I buy an S or L with a star on the map?

* There's a second Argon sign in the distance, so that could be another O. Not a word, per se, but MOOG?

Clearly, the Moog synthesizer would have some cool trivia, and we know how any cool trivia can seem to be intrinsically connected to this hunt.

Weirdly reminiscent of the AI debate today. (Banned from use?!)

At least one of the tracks on this Van Morrison compilation album must have featured a Moog (good album title, too) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Philosopher's_Stone_(album)

Anyway, tons of amazing musicians, albums, songs, and lore having to do with the Moog synthesizer... if it even has anything to do with the hunt.

fwiw, this is the image I pulled from above that illustrates how one could pan and quickly see all 4 of those starred letters in quick succession, including the one in the Argon sign in the distance.

[glad lake]

Oh so that's what the device is that's mentioned in that one Daft Punk song! I never really cared enough to look that up specifically tbh. That's actually pretty fascinating :O

[glad lake]

Heyo! I’ve been doing a lot of noting things down and I wanna test 2 theories regarding #1203859365610922036 later tonight (or on the weekend if we don’t find 8 players today for Theory 2). After that is done, we can hunt for other EEs / Namas, etc.,

Meetup after today's event stream ends? ~ <t:1747846800:f>
Map: Monaco
**Variant: **Suspended Structures (Jack and the Beanstalk -> Castle in the Clouds)
**Time: Rain or Night **(Rain = Water / Jack and the Beanstalk “The Beanstalk grew in the night”)

Theory 1:

Detonate smoke/powder in the 4 fountains of Monaco at the same time. Going off the fertilizer idea and the components of IRL fire extinguishers. (Yes, this might be more complicated than just smoke, but I want to start off simple.)

Theory 2:,

“Dead bodies.”
Timed kills inside the 4 fountains across the map. (Would potentially require 8 players unless we use mines / C4.)

There are some hints towards defeat/victory and obviously Saint Valentine’s death. In addition, human bodies do contain nitrogen, potassium, and phosphorus.

Both of these are based on the idea that you need at least one other person to pull it off, going off Rob’s hint that it requires multiple people to trigger.

Obviously if anyone already tried this please let me know!

Oh! And leave a reaction to post if you’re interested in helping!

[dull marsh]

Numbers

[ornate aspen]

it has the year 2025

they probably scanned a real can they made and used it

[low escarp]

had a idea for the roses that we have to find unique items that we can pick up in each map map too many have nothing fortune dosnt have anything beside cannisters

[glad lake]

My assumption would be if they are truly available on every map. Then it has to be related to Canisters or Gear people bring into the match. Because if it was a unique item. People would have found it already.

[low escarp]

i mean we have found unique items just didnt connect them to the roses ee

[glad lake]

time to make a list of every prop on each map

[alpine junco]

red canister, pink canister

[low escarp]

#1203859365610922036 message

[alpine junco]

also "blooms" like a flower

[storm horizon]

cheer for the Rob

[glad lake]

might be a bit too out there but maybe the pattern of the Flowers on Kyoto are something? I'm thinking of Lost legacy etc. but I sorta doubt it the more I look at it

[white patrol]

this is some weird bullet pattern

[crisp eagle]

Maybe a hint at Saturn. I think we had Saturn in Level 2 right? If so, and already suggested my bad. I have a lot of catching up to do here today haha

[exotic flume]

all praise rob

[dull marsh]

Hey don't judge my skills

[white patrol]

oh I didn't know you signed signature on my riot shield! thanks ludo

[storm horizon]

Actually it's pretty average shoot pattern of my solo q teammates

[low escarp]

ROSE 🌹🌹

[white patrol]

just about to post this!

🌹

[inland hemlock]

we gotta go on a e date in order to find them!

(at this point it could be possible)

[low escarp]

rin u wanna go on a date to skyway? 🌹

[inland hemlock]

you two go on a date i'll be the waiter i guess

i'll bring you a Rosé

[white patrol]

can I try few rounds of heavy hitter please? then we can go 🌹

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/586258033458544640.webp?size=48

[low escarp]

all good

[white patrol]

yay!

[low escarp]

hydro slam

567478

[velvet narwhal]

Those anims are sick

There's an anim pack for sledge called "VI Hammer Moves"
What does VI mean? Wouldn't VR make more sense?

[white patrol]

Roman numerals?

[low escarp]

HUH

[inland hemlock]

guh?

[velvet narwhal]

[glad lake]

[low escarp]

we gonna have to activate smthing

[velvet narwhal]

It also shows the other players now too when they leave

and everytime when a dummy respawns...

[inland hemlock]

why is there a floor there ?

what they hiding there?

what is big embark hiding now...

[inland hemlock]

isn't Newton the fella who pushed the petition? i might be remembering wrong

[errant imp]

mhh yes water

[white patrol]

wait this is the door right?

[velvet narwhal]

"a door"
"a door"
"door"
"a door"

[alpine junco]

Oh the secret door

From that one stream

[low escarp]

diff tree

[fading vigil]

Is it leaves part that looks like V?

[white patrol]

this change now

[low escarp]

8 spots in the wall and a water fountain

[fading vigil]

Tried lay plant under the crane?

[inland hemlock]

we think maybe killing a player with a flower pot in each of those

fatal florist style

[gentle wasp]

Hi yes I am Newton

It was my petition

[inland hemlock]

ayyy! congrats!

[gentle wasp]

Thanks!

I imagine a lot of people are gonna be like "who the heck is that"

[inland hemlock]

me and @low escarp tested this out, and it doesn't seem to do anything, maybe we need more players?

[cold heart]

maybe "feed me"
is a really round about way to ask "take me to dinner"?

[inland hemlock]

when the "mouth" opens you gotta throw a flowerpot inside it

[alpine junco]

Now lets see Paul Allen’s cash out

[inland hemlock]

i also feel like this shot wasn't random

[low escarp]

theres a cashout spawn on the lift but not there next to the fountain

[inland hemlock]

yeah i think they moved it so the fountain would've been in shot

@zinc trail found this

@zinc trail (also im bugged now, could you melt me or something)

[alpine junco]

hydra qube

*F1I35-N07_7011I)

[inland hemlock]

Files not ....?

[alpine junco]

tollid?

[inland hemlock]

also at the top it says MultiCo_OS V.105.05

and bottom left is HYDRA_Q_LOGO.JPEG

and another

[low escarp]

i think its 9 screens make the whole

[tall anvil]

hello guys.hope you are having a good time today too 🙂

[white patrol]

woah

[oak mason]

F1I35-N07_7011I) it's leet. It's "Files not toiil ? xD

[white patrol]

Hydra Q is something relates to S7 I feel like

• Hydra Q for rose clue
• End of season tease
• Rose will be gone in S7

[burnt sun]

this is also new

[white patrol]

MultiCo_OS V.105.05

[oak mason]

guys multico have it's own site liek holtow.com ?

[white patrol]

consistant dots

[burnt sun]

this is the second one, but the line on top is simply too pixelated (unrelated to graphic settings)

[white patrol]

hmmm not sure..

[fading vigil]

files not tolld?

[snow walrus]

yes and no, there is one but not active

[fading vigil]

Or we think it’s inactive.
Maybe we need to check it on specific port (not default 80)

[snow walrus]

No it's not open to public meaning has not been configured yet

[fresh quiver]

remember the times people tried to crack the Squarespace passwords that prevented you to access a site which was not live yet xD

[white patrol]

weird reflection from this angle

was this like this? can't remember :p

[rugged breach]

Night variant yes, I think so, has been for several seasons at least if not since release

[gloomy anvil]

omg something happening yes

[white patrol]

on seoul too

[white patrol]

ahh icic, thanks tox!

where did you get this may I ask?

[alpine junco]

im guessing the game files from steam

[cold heart]

we dont do that here

please dont post things from the files/ movies folder, thanks

[white patrol]

@analog pagoda I summon orange kitty

EAT HIM MARSHALL #easter-eggs message

[analog pagoda]

Please do not post data-mined content, thank you!

[white patrol]

W CAT

[ebon roost]

did he post alfa actas upcoming watches?

[gloomy anvil]

It was just the billboard file not a leak

[white patrol]

small screen no more ads now

[open lily]

New Sizzlecore helmet has numbers on it. The numbers are 428-785-912-815. Some of them scratched so its hard to see.

if you add the numbers together you get -2084

[rugged breach]

Picture for reference

[open lily]

Hydroslam also has numbers on it 567478

[dull marsh]

ASCII for ffff00

[rugged breach]

Pure yellow

[dull marsh]

102 102 102 102 48 48

Ah yes forgot to specify lol

[odd crater]

Could be they will take more spot of monako to sponsor the hydra?

[ornate aspen]

i can’t tell if this means it is or if this is a clue

[dull marsh]

If I had to guess it could be a clue of some sort to tell us to look at color hex conversions

Or it could be nothing

[rugged breach]

R,G no B

1,2 no 3?

Since we have hex as a clue in the mainline hunt

[dull marsh]

I mean that's just yellow

[odd crater]

Ospuze yellow. Isnt the same yellow the ospuze one that the level 2 rewards and the finals color :/

[rugged breach]

Ospuze's more orange than pure yellow, no?

Slightly so

[full plinth]

OMG

THE COMEBACK OF CNS AS STARTED :)))

(sry for the ping)

[fresh quiver]

tahts interesting

[alpine junco]

coincidence?

2 1 3

[jovial pumice]

heavy hitters event is in a massive can of ospuze (piss)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785234908594700339/1375141468779319346/image.png?ex=68309bcb&is=682f4a4b&hm=7014b8d81d16da53fc98dc78ff513d59475df027dedabd68d477f71c7cb2b49d&

[ornate aspen]

same color as this

[dull marsh]

Guys FFFF00 is pure yellow, Rob said that as an aswer to something about yellow light

[ornate aspen]

main reason i asked the question

[fading vigil]

HydraQ: 10 “he”
Billboards: 7 “he”

If I count well

[ornate aspen]

so hydraQ is a back door?

definitely has something to do with cybersecurity just by looking it up

[fresh quiver]

just for the lulz.
hydra does not have a -Q attribute. only a -q . but thats normal for quiet

[agile wren]

Something new about HydraQ

[slim harbor]

Hydra (constellation):
One of the constellations in the southern sky, represented as a giant snake.
Hydra (island):
A Greek island in the Saronic Gulf, known for its picturesque harbor and historic buildings.

maybe related to aegean

[vagrant mauve]

Hydra Q???? Right after we got a "Hydra Cubes" and "Q" related clue for Rose???

[dull marsh]

lol

[sharp flame]

woahhh

[fading vigil]

https://www.reachthefinals.com/xpdash
do we ever got something from this page?

[gloomy anvil]

a couple of level 3 mentions from Rob

[sharp flame]

Love that from him

[ornate aspen]

how long has it been since we made a massive breakthrough on it besides the coordinates

[gloomy anvil]

have we made a breakthrough on the coordinates?

[wicked pier]

i wonder if the new ospuze tiger brand is just an absorption of this poor one that got only one skin to my knowledge..

[gloomy anvil]

The last big EE/lore theory to have been eyed by Rob was in October last year #easter-eggs message

We've made lots of connections since then, various theories, but Rob hasn't confirmed anything "breakthrough" worthy.

[sharp flame]

I wonder if it was owned by OSPUZE the whole time

[sharp flame]

😭

[timber narwhal]

? whats this

[alpine junco]

the hydra Q-ube

[wicked pier]

browser exploit?

[hasty anvil]

Fe Fi Fo Fum. And similar to 000f f000 image names (or whatever the names were it's been a while)

[ornate aspen]

nice catch

[fading vigil]

What can be “fe”, if:
fi - fire
Fo - foam(goo)
Fum-fumes(gas)

[sharp flame]

fumes would be smoke imo

[alpine junco]

Fe

Iron

[white patrol]

how many Q can fit in a cube so I think it should be same thing yes

[vagrant mauve]

Leaked art?!?!?

Chat we gotta find these namas

[snow walrus]

So level 2 was connected..

0v0aurum 1,2,3

[pure loom]

I wondered if "Q" might represent the number 17 - and found this record reference which has "Project X" in it, but this doesn't really seem to provide any other info: https://www.discogs.com/release/7934287-Hydra-Hydra-Project-X

This could be a possible path from the Greek Island, Hydra: "In ancient times, the island was known as Hydrea (Ὑδρέα, derived from the Greek word for "water"), a reference to the natural springs on the island."

[sharp flame]

OOO

[empty plaza]

Hydra connecting with CNS (I’m not in the loop idk if this is old info)

[sharp flame]

?!

[vagrant mauve]

I think TFEE and Rose are much more connected than we once thought... Maybe rose will end with a diamond clue??

[pure loom]

Interesting - it might point more to the Greek mythology then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernaean_Hydra

[vagrant mauve]

It seems like most clues are pointing towards the periodic table or Greek/roman mythology. Like this could be Li = Lithium

LiFE -> "Lithium Fluoride Energy" -> batteries

[fading vigil]

So, if we start from this art:
#official-art message
1- usa (las vegas)
2- europe (monaco)
3- asia (kyoto\seoul?)

is it correlates with lvl3 page coords?

[vagrant mauve]

Maybe implicates Arc lore connection? They use batteries for "life"

[pure loom]

I think Las Vegas is a strong lead for the golden nama - we also had the Master Plan "treasure map" for that map, not dissimilar to the clue leading to the Monaco nama (I forget what what treasure map/clue was called)

[vagrant mauve]

Lost Legacy.

[pure loom]

yes, thanks

[fading vigil]

yeah, i remember. just truing to connect 1 2 3 - a b c - passwords

[vagrant mauve]

1, 2, 3 could also be the release order of maps, so Monaco, Seoul, Skyway (I think)

[white patrol]

rob showed up??

where??

[empty plaza]

#⚡┇the-finals-chat for about 30 minutes

[white patrol]

then it is not part of rose EE, rob said solving rose EE won't help you with the hunt password stuff like that, if lvl3 is all about them then it belongs to the hunt

[empty plaza]

I convinced him to add wrist wraps to the Embark store

[white patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/956763266355441664.webp?size=96&animated=true

I missed him

noo

[alpine junco]

Hydra Aegean

I was thinking since AEGEAN got eyed that each letter represents something hidden somewhere on Skyway

Since we also had the reflection of the studio eyed

[hard current]

wait rob was here today?!

Ok so, then we know we have a golden nama in monaco, problem is, how does it tie into level 3…

[white patrol]

lost legacy map and coordinates? maybe this is where the route of the map become useful

[hard current]

is there anything we have in level 3 that COULD have been used to find the monaco golden egg?

[white patrol]

the lost legacy map itself is enough for us to find the golden egg, there's no level 3 connection so far iirc

[hard current]

besides rob saying allegedly that’s what level 3 is all about

[hard current]

here

[white patrol]

yeah that's probably why we haven't got any password yet, didn't connect lvl3 with Nama

[gloomy anvil]

finally confirmation

[vagrant mauve]

I mean you say that but also Hydra_Q.jpeg is almost definitely related to Rose. I think the two EEs are separate, but connected at some fundamental level (like all being related to the lore of The Finals or part of CNS's schemes). It's possible aspects of the in-game clues are related to both in some way, but actually solving one will not help solve the other.

[pure loom]

I suspect this is a method that Rob uses, of having clues between separate EEs link to one another. And I think he does this for two reasons:

1. It allows him to deliver clues for an EE in a place we wouldn't expect it.

2. It's confusing.

[white patrol]

yes that's what I'm thinking Rose EE - lore - The hunt connects like that
but if Nama is a big theme in lvl3 or it is really important, it shouldn't have anything todo with roses, because ofc, it will NAMA will help you on passwords so that means not related to rose at least in a fundamental level, there might be connection but shouldn't considered as clue

[gloomy anvil]

We've already received information that:

1 / 1C = Europe
2 / 2B = North America
3 / 3A = Asia

That lines up with 1 = Monaco, 2 = Las Vegas, 3 = Seoul/Kyoto

[pure loom]

yeah, and it's that "it shouldn't have anything to do with it" that I think Rob uses because he knows it will confuse us.

It's a deliberate ploy to give us clues without us realising what they're connected to

[pure loom]

what was that geographic info?

[alpine junco]

to add on

[gloomy anvil]

Big Oil just posted it

[vagrant mauve]

Yes. Namas might be "step 1" for both EEs, but also Namas aren't the "solution" for either, therefore one doesn't help solve the other. One could even think of Namas as their own EE, and therefore it exists tangentially to both. Also it's fitting for all major EEs to help piece together the lore.

[pure loom]

can you share the link please? Looking at @alpine junco posts I don't spot it

[gloomy anvil]

just above :P

#easter-eggs message

[alpine junco]

one sec getting the full images

[pure loom]

oh shoot right there hahaha

I was looking way further up

[alpine junco]

from the miroboard

[white patrol]

yes rock I get what you mean but, did rob said anything he don't like misleading? don't really remember, anyway- he said "it shouldn't help you with the hunt" that means there can be connections but rose EE clues or solving it shouldn't help you with the hunt, fyisics said Gold nama tama is the fundamental clue for rose EE, and Rob said gold namas are a important thing for The hunt lvl3, that means Nama will help LVL3 which proofs Nama shouldn't be a starting point for rose EE since he said "Rose EE won't help you solve the hunt"

[pure loom]

ok, so the current numbers we have would fit well with this because they (mostly) span Europe

[vagrant mauve]

This also leads into something else I wanted to mention. Since TFEE is supposed to contribute to the lore of The Finals, and we've recently pieced together a lot more of the lore surrounding The Embarkverse it's a good thing to keep in mind that clues should, in theory, eventually tie back into the games lore in some vague way. That's part of what makes the "robber baron" idea so good. We have a lot of instances where the concept of a "robber baron" ties into the games lore.

[alpine junco]

nama tama locations could be 3 letters
ex: Monaco = C (cathedral) or R (rubble/rock)

[vagrant mauve]

This idea can be used as soft confirmation of whether you're on the right track.

[vagrant mauve]

I suspect each Nama is gonna look different, and those differences will help clue us into something/help with the password

[alpine junco]

we also have 4 sets of numbers and characters that led no where

[white patrol]

help me understand this fysic
solve rose/rose clues won't help the hunt
gold nama is a important lead for lvl3 = helps the hunt
then gold nama also is clue for roses? then rob contridicted himself or something

if misleading = contridicting that's not good, no?

[pure loom]

I think misleading is different from confusing - providing clues in unusual places doesn't mislead us, it just means we need to work harder to figure out what it relates to. Misleading would be telling us something false, which he almost never does (once or twice)

[white patrol]

ahh I see yeah, I was reply to fysics, he thinks gold nama is fundemental clue for roses, that's why I'm saying it's misleading because if that so, rob contridicted himself

"rose ee won't help you with the hunt" end up being one of most important clue for the hunt, that's misleading

[pure loom]

I agree. The other way around could apply though

And like I said - it is very rare for him to mislead, but it has happened

[white patrol]

that would be a trouble.. since rob is usually not here, no one is stopping us going down the rabbit hole

[pure loom]

I think given how far we are into it now, it won't happen. The last time was in like mid 2023

[dusk siren]

Re: safezone
CNS link? more lore than EE?

[pure loom]

I think he thought we were going to finish it too quickly haha

[vagrant mauve]

Gold Namas could be a point of intersection between these two EEs. He said that "finding the reason you can pick up the roses will not help you solve the big hunt", he did not say the two are not related in any way. It's entirely possible he doesn't even consider the gold namas part of either EE, but rather its own EE with implications in both. I just don't think it's so simple to say that because gold namas is important for TFEE, that it doesn't matter for roses at all.

Either way it doesn't matter much, we just find the gold namas and find out

[white patrol]

I still remember when rob said "It's time to up the game", a hunter said "what do you mean up the game, you think we are too good at it?"🤣

[dusk siren]

This where the gold nama tamas are? Have we only found the one on Monaco so far?

[warm tiger]

did you guys hear the new june voiceline?

[pure loom]

yeah, when we worked out who Jan Matejko was, I think he thought we were going to get to the end too quickly, so he downplayed it - in a dm to me, to be fair. Which put me off investigating Jan more for ages

[gloomy anvil]

he said he downplayed it, or you suspect he's downplaying it? just to clarify

[white patrol]

"you can hear it all the way from meat space"? if this then yeah

[warm tiger]

yeah that one

[pure loom]

That's my interpretation of what he told me. It made it seem like Jan's bust being in-game was inconsequential

[dusk siren]

If a strong hacker/cracker connection ("get cracking"), then this might be something. Have no idea if this tool was "big" in its day or just a random association.

[pure loom]

can you share the link to this please?

[white patrol]

yes it's same thing
reason to pick up rose = helps solve rose = won't help you with EE hunt
but yeah we will see, it is important nonetheless

[dusk siren]

I'm guessing mixing Leet and simple alphanumeric indexing is unlikely, but if the first 7 = T, but the second 7 = G... something like NOT_GOLD? (as in all that glitters is...)

[dusk siren]

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/how-to-use-hydra-pentesting-tutorial/

[alpine junco]

x = 3
y = 3
3x3 = cube

also it is a cube above the water

[dusk siren]

sry to re-up, but for anyone who knows the whole EE hunt history, what's the current status of the 3 hidden gold nama tamas?

[pure loom]

we found the Monaco one, and that's it so far. We suspect one might be on Las Vegas.

[white patrol]

might be a dumb question OIL-
where did the 3 come from

[gloomy anvil]

Just going to rehash what I think is the most accurate top-level overview of level 3.
(Not anything new and I do post it a lot, but Rob confirmed the golden Namas today sooo sry )

Level 1: The Commence = Introduction to hunting and finding hidden objects (geocaching)
Level 2: The Promise = The reward, what we're hunting for (golden eggs)
Level 3: The Hunt = Hunting the golden eggs (Nama Tamas)

MW.AREA 1 = Europe -> Monaco (we've found a Golden Nama here already)
MW.AREA 2 = North America -> Las Vegas
MW.AREA 3 = Asia -> Seoul/Kyoto

19 (helps glue things together)

• Commence + Promise + Hunt = 19 letters
• Rabbit + Dolphin + Monkey = 19 letters
• Slies + Cetacea + Asconce = 19 letters
• Monaco + Las Vegas + Seoul (or Kyoto) = 19 letters

X (theorizing)

• Level 1 was comprised of 3 Xs that each related to the level's solution (devoncrossing, ocb, galileo = geocaching).
• Each MW.AREA is comprised of 3 Xs, so these may need to relate to each arena's Golden Nama. (maybe XY RR 1X2 comes into play here).
• Rob replied to "Where does Namatama like to go on holiday?" with: "Three places, X, X, X" #easter-eggs message
• X marks the spot -> X marks the Golden Namas on maps. (Monaco Lost Legacy, Las Vegas Masterplan markup, and the other Lost Legacy).
• The 'X-Citing Discovery' sticker has 1 X and 9 dashes, and is in the shape of an S (19th letter) #1289459770063065088 message

again, nothing new, just a summary

[alpine junco]

graph 3 across and 3 up

[dusk siren]

brilliant summary! thx!

[alpine junco]

nvm, it's a holographic crane

[dusk siren]

We found Monaco in part because of a cosmetic (map, right?). Anything promising like that that could be related to a Las Vegas location?

[gloomy anvil]

that's where masterplan markup is relevant

we got it in season 1 iirc

[alpine junco]

what if we gotta hit the slot machines on the way

[inland hemlock]

Gambling addiction

[vagrant mauve]

I think his clue "1, 2, 3" and his clue "there are 3 Namas hidden in the world" suggest that we need to be looking at the first 3 maps that are in the "world", aka Monaco, Seoul, Vegas. Kyoto comes later and Skyway isn't in the world

[unkempt dune]

As a reminder since we haven't gotten any new submissions this year... there's a google form related to the cosmetic numbers. If you haven't submitted your cosmetic number info yet, it'd be nice if you did! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QGisU0icgvXLoVXKbVMz1B87Kg8DHP1u0gFEPGD4qKY (https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1289459917337399317)

[pure loom]

here's an idea - if the gold Namas relate to Europe, Asia and USA for the main puzzle (coordinates), then two things:

1. Nama 2 should be on Las Vegas, and Nama 3 should be Seoul or Kyoto

2. Maybe the location they are found is meaningful and related to the overall puzzle - so the Monaco one is found in marble ruins, so maybe the main puzzle answers relate to Calcium Carbonate through that, and the location of a ruin in Europe. Likewise, the Las Vegas one would relate to gold, and Asian one to egg.

[alpine junco]

looking back at steal the spotlight, it was only clear night

which is at 1 in the morning

[pure loom]

If anyone has number 24, please ping me!

[vagrant mauve]

Also just to put it out there, I've looked around Vegas extensively, including around and underneath every cashbox, with nothing. So I don't think it's there in general

[pure loom]

that's a good point - because duck'n'cover is very specific for Monaco. Maybe we should expect the same for the others. So maybe Seoul construction is a good option too.

[alpine junco]

this vault spawns over the X, i am not sure if it is repeatable

[pure loom]

A few of us have looked a bit (not a lot) on sandstorm too

[unkempt dune]

Typically you dig down for treasure at the X, but what if you dug up in this case? 😂

[vagrant mauve]

I just think Seoul is the clear option, and I will be looking there over Kyoto now.

[pure loom]

Just adding the image of the Monaco Nama for reference to the ruins and Calcium Carbonate aspect here

[alpine junco]

D H E D
HEDD
hedd = "peace" in Welsh

https://monkeyisland.fandom.com/wiki/The_Flying_Welshman

just an idea from @white patrol

[dusk siren]

So the first was found via "Lost Legacy" (LL) and for Vegas we have "Masterplan Markup" (MM)?

[gloomy anvil]

The third map is called Lost Legacy, so LML

LML shifts by 7 to STS, which also shifts to KLK and RSR

[dusk siren]

The "Lost" could refer to the cathedral ruins? What could "Masterplan" or "Markup" potentially refer to?
Unfortunately, I do wonder if you have to do things along that route in the Masterplan Markup, especially if there is not a lot one can do to actually damage the vault room.

[dusk siren]

Ah, I was just thinking along those lines.

[gloomy anvil]

yeah I just realized it too

[dusk siren]

"Markup"? Sprays?

[dusk siren]

Yeah, it would be great if we had something like the CaCO3 clue to go with the Las Vegas map.
Any thoughts?

The vault or boxes seem to be steel... Fe...?

[alpine junco]

S O M O

[gloomy anvil]

Just gonna note the shifts from a starting point of "aba"

KLK - 10 (Karl-Linus Kaninus)
LML - 11 (Lost Legacy, Masterplan Markup, Lost Legacy)
RSR - 17 (Missing letters in the 'powe_i_powe' filename)
STS - 18 (STS-88, see the signs, steal the spotlight)

[dusk siren]

I suggested that just a couple days ago. Always frustrating that we can't get timely feedback on whether right or wrong.

In fact, I posted LOTS of star-letter ideas, for better or worse.

[dusk siren]

To be fair, I guess I didn't suggest "SOMO," specifically. I like it.

[alpine junco]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/somo

or it could be straight up "MOOS"

[dusk siren]

xyRR1x2 contains "XYX," fwiw

I think it's like you say. "LML." But if we did instead "LL," "MM," "NN," are there any "NN" cosmetics or connections to Seoul or Kyoto?

[pure loom]

Or gold kept in them

[dusk siren]

Now, MOOS I did suggest. 😂

come on, Moolah! everyone loves him!

[pure loom]

Back to the secrets of science clue too

[alpine junco]

also we have P.E.A.C.E center from alfa acta

which is a scientific training ground

[dusk siren]

Hmm... "Masterplan Markup"?

What's going on above the X on higher floors?

Is the Eastwood in the game meant to be the same location as the Golden Nugget? If it is or isn't, I bet somebody has already confirmed either way.

The awnings are more reminiscent of the Argon if I'm being intellectually honest.

If anything, then prob lore and not EE, but...
"safezone" ----> HOLTOW?
Hydra -------> MultiCo?
Q --------> Quemby Rutile?

[odd crater]

i think Q is for the quality of the JPEG

[dusk siren]

Ah... is that something typically used by people who work with JPEGs?

[odd crater]

its what i find but then should be Hydra Quality so that can be other road we get to. 🤔

[sharp flame]

Guys

in the bottom left corner of some of them it says HYDRA_Q_LOGO.JPEG

[dusk siren]

CaCO3 is actually essential in traditional blast furnace steelmaking. Something I wasn't aware of, anyway.

[unkempt dune]

Water competitor for Ospuze

[odd crater]

nah could be somenting about boats. 🤔

[dusk siren]

"hydra cube" (just going back to an earlier clue, and using the original root for hydra, which is the same as for hydro)
does make me think of litre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litre

[wicked pier]

in mythology, hydras to be defeated require you to cut off all 3 heads at the same time
we need to cut the 3 heads... at the same time

what's the hydra in this case?

[dusk siren]

I'm not really pushing for this, but the fact that the image is blue (associated with water) and seems to demarcate a square (and perhaps by extension, a cube), might be interesting.

[odd crater]

you dont have already a cube there? connecting the four +

[dusk siren]

I didn't mean literally, but it's a good point. I don't really feel like pushing it. Even the water angle.

Ofc, if we take the water angle, as naive as that is, perhaps the Hydra Cube / Hydra Q refers to something on Kyoto. Perhaps one of the buildings set down in one of the pools of water?

More likely a coincidence, but sometimes clues are embedded in or timed with patch notes.

The change to Kyoto's water with the latest update is possibly interesting.

[empty plaza]

arewid casually just dropped this without context

[dusk siren]

In traditional French units of measurement, there was something called a Quade.
1/1.904 = ~0.5252... quades per litre

[crisp eagle]

the "Q" makes me think of this message from Rob #easter-eggs message

[dusk siren]

1 quade = 2 pintes = ~1.904 L = ~0.5 gallon (U.S.) = ~0.42 gallon (Imperial_

[crisp eagle]

Also, Hydra is an Island in The Aegean Sea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydra_(island)

[dusk siren]

I'm curious. What was the "Q" connection at the time?

[crisp eagle]

I don't think we ever found it

It was odd he spelled "guess" with q
"quess"

[dusk siren]

oh... I didn't see that! 🙂 thx

Well, that fits pretty well with his two recent "Hydra Cube" and Hydra "Q's" clues.
Take "quess" to be read as the plural of the letter "que" ----> Q's

The dolphin gives a water association

[empty plaza]

What is arewid smoking

[crisp eagle]

I still really want an atlatl

[dusk siren]

If Q = 17, perhaps involves computing some quantity of oxygen-17 isotopes in water?

[slim harbor]

or maybe Q = 17 = password length for MV.area #2 ?

[hard current]

man do I miss the days when we’d get eyes

I lurk here everyday but I haven’t been able to make heads or tails of level 3

[gloomy anvil]

seems like it was more enjoyable then

[sharp flame]

Documenting all HYDRA_Q text on the billboard:

MultiCo_OS V.105.05

HYDRA_Q.JPEG

HYDRA_Q_LOGO.JPEG
SysError_Code_*F1|35-N07_7011|)

---

So HYDRA_Q has a logo which is supposed to be displayed on this screen

and ************

12 asterisks

[crisp eagle]

I was looking up if Q was on the periodic table and found out J and Q are the only letters in the English alphabet not used in the periodic table. Probably already known here, but just in case 🫡

[sharp flame]

OSPUZE getting scammed with this marketing

[gloomy anvil]

FL|ES-NOT_TOLL ? we know CNS uses leet a lot

[sharp flame]

FLIES-NOT_TOLLI

yo it could actually spell something

[slim harbor]

|) maybe D

[gloomy anvil]

yeah they use that style of typing too

NOT_TOLLD = "Not Told" ?

[sharp flame]

weird double L then

F LIES NOT TOLD?

*F could mean Five, or F = 6

5 LIES NOT TOLLD
6 LIES NOT TOLLD

[crisp eagle]

the - between "Flies" and "Not" is interesting to me too. instead of _

[gloomy anvil]

I don't know of any character names starting with F, besides maybe "Finals" itself

[sharp flame]

YO

wait

we might have it wrong

[hard forge]

FILES-NOT_TO

[sharp flame]

| = L

[crisp eagle]

We usually do haha

Files!

[sharp flame]

1 = i

FILES NOT ______

[gloomy anvil]

FILES NOT TO 111 )

only mentioning that because of Rob's 111 clue for the MultiCo doc

[hard forge]

FOUND?

[crisp eagle]

Files-Not_Toiil or Toiid

[sharp flame]

We should look for alternatives

7 can also be Y

TOIID

[crisp eagle]

True

[sharp flame]

YOIID

[crisp eagle]

I really like the D idea

[sharp flame]

TOIID is an anagram of IDIOT

FILES-NOT_IDIOT

*F1|35-N07_7011|)

[gloomy anvil]

Found would make the most sense if we're not being very specific with the characters, since the JPEG file clearly isn't appearing

[crisp eagle]

7 = G
Files Not Golld
Files Not Gold

Files Not Good maybe?
7 = G
0 = o
ii = twice
|) = D

[hard forge]

whole thing could be anagram

[crisp eagle]

So G double O if that makes sense

[sharp flame]

FILES NOT TOIILD
FILES NOT TOIID

if we assume the translated letters stay constant, here is what we MUST have

FLIES-NOT-TOLLID
FLIES-NOT-TOLLD

---

only other possibility

unless of course 11 means something other than LL/II

https://rpo.library.utoronto.ca/content/grave

The poem "The Grave" has the words "Flies", "not", "toll'd"

[pure loom]

made me think of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Tasks_of_Asterix

[dull marsh]

For the 3 golden namas I'm thinking since the Monaco one seemed to have been buried centuries ago, perhaps each one represents a different era, another one could be a fossil for example (which would match with the Sega coin clue we have)

[hard forge]

hmm

[pure loom]

which is apparently inspired by this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labours_of_Hercules - which mentions Hydra

[dull marsh]

And one egg, more recent could be on SYS, for an era being digital/gaming 🤔

[dusk siren]

If it's not leet, some other possibilities?
F1|35
FA|CE?
FAME?

[sharp flame]

Did I get pinged

[gloomy anvil]

If you have notifs on in #1332758896594387066 yes

[sharp flame]

We should put HYDRA_Q in there since it's pretty big

[gloomy anvil]

yeah I was just about to

[sharp flame]

unless you're waiting for us to solve that string

[dusk siren]

Different era idea is good, imho

[dusk siren]

ah... so like "tolled" 🤔

[sharp flame]

That's the only way it's a real word imo

[dusk siren]

Back to the gravestones and gravesites?

[dull marsh]

I have a feeling it's supposed to be FILES NOT FOUND

[sharp flame]

Sure, but it is really hard to fit

11|) --> UND

so either 1 = U and 1 = N

or 1 = U and 1| = N

or 11 = U and | = N

[dull marsh]

Ye ye I can see the issues

[sharp flame]

another idea

the letters are going offscreen

11 = U and |) = N

I can see |) = n

and I can kinda see 11 = U

[vagrant mauve]

there's no E

[gloomy anvil]

He

I think Pib means not used anywhere at all

[sharp flame]

Can someone help me load into a private match, the code is Z1EG

I need a better angle of the ending Code

[crisp eagle]

Yes, that one

[hard forge]

that's what I am saying

[dull marsh]

Either that or it's missing the N on purpose
Not particularly likely but it's part of CNS 🤔

[sharp flame]

FILES NOT FOUD

[dull marsh]

They forgor 💀

[hard forge]

FILES NO. 7-7011D

[dull marsh]

Wait isn't there a brand called FOLID?

[sharp flame]

bruh

[dull marsh]

FILES-NO. 7 FOLID could fit 🤔

[hard forge]

where did the F come from?

[dull marsh]

But still I'll believe it's more or less NOT FOUND just looking weird 😂