#easter-eggs

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worn rivet
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They sell time machines, calling it now.

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/s

fallen jasper
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I assume we'll get to know when Dissun starts their stop

crisp eagle
fallen jasper
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Because it seems the current Easter egg hunt is around Vaiiya and dissun

crisp eagle
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Here we do get clues that make us guess at where it'll be next though

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Yea it's great. the Lore and EE's do kinda go hand and hand too. They've made this all super deep

worn rivet
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Did we try ASCII as a password?

snow walrus
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lines are equal on this map which is a Equirectangular projection i believe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equirectangular_projection

The equirectangular projection (also called the equidistant cylindrical projection or la carte parallƩlogrammatique projection), and which includes the special case of the plate carrƩe projection (also called the geographic projection, lat/lon projection, or plane chart), is a simple map projection attributed to Marinus of Tyre, who Ptolemy clai...

worn rivet
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Does it matter where u put in the password?

snow walrus
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wdym

bright ruin
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Alright, where's the tldr of the 2 months I've been MIA (hello friends DubuWave )

snow walrus
snow walrus
bright ruin
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Lol RHB vid was frontpage of my YT, watching it and prompted me to come back here šŸ˜‚
Thank you thank you HeartFrog

gloomy anvil
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annoyingly this wasn't eyed, while the black knight card RHB posted below it was, so idk if the King is relevant, but it seems like it should be

fresh quiver
bright ruin
fresh quiver
gloomy anvil
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If you'd like to catch up on Level 3, check the wiki for a timeline and rundown of clues happy_friend https://thefinals.wiki/wiki/Level_3_-_The_Hunt

It doesn't list all our theories, because those are just theories atm

THE FINALS

Level 3 - The Hunt is the third and current level of THE FINALS Easter Egg Hunt. It was activated on August 7, 2024 and currently remains unsolved.

bright ruin
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Have we at least had any new hints from rob for the passwords lately? Or is this another "you have everything you need" situation pain

gloomy anvil
bright ruin
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Hmmmm
Did we stash those in the wiki or the miro board? I want to take a gander

gloomy anvil
gloomy anvil
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Black Knight + King + Joker = Dagonet, King Arthur's jester (joker)

Alternatively, the Joker could point to comedy as a whole, and thus Monty Python and the Holy Grail

crisp eagle
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oh it was 1x2?

gloomy anvil
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yeah

crisp eagle
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I need to search things more haha I went off my (bad) memory. Thanks for looking out haha

gloomy anvil
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cordiform is the word for anything heart-shaped

crisp eagle
# snow walrus

The forward projection transforms spherical coordinates into planar coordinates.
So we possibly have to transform those coordinates given on the Level 3 page?

alpine junco
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have these been posted?

hard current
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@empty plaza you get a chance to look at rose stuff on monaco?

snow walrus
# snow walrus
1748.0825462393968 km, 2584.9500305023835 km,
3101.5548794379256 km, 1445.245489697768 km
9100.353233538717 km, 4136.737116315555 km
5198.299279478241 km, 6133.4285939815245 km```

edit: made a silly mistake. x is lon, y is lat. Fixed now. So do not ref the screenshot.
empty plaza
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Why don’t we use the same method we used to get the Alison Wonderland answer?

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3.1.2

alpine junco
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is this still unsolved?

snow walrus
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guys

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oh RHB sent this earlier nice!

fresh quiver
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this is from @coarse dagger obisian vault.

sharp flame
fresh quiver
sharp flame
alpine junco
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I know there are a couple old #official-art that havent been 100% solved and seeing if any of em could help us out at this tier

alpine junco
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I tried overlaying both the ā€œFā€ files since they have the same background

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Diagonal lines and circles

fresh quiver
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the circles are already on the Screenshot 19

alpine junco
fresh quiver
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might had a dumb idea.

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What if we try to overlay the unreadable things with some of the other unreadable things?

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Like not all belong to the puzzle. but to overlay each other. both

alpine junco
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iirc Rob said there are patterns

fresh quiver
cunning patrol
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Hello

copper zodiac
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Hi

alpine junco
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Could this be of any help?

fresh quiver
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But here is it scaled 4x times with hqx

proud minnow
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{

fresh quiver
eternal violet
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we did find {, though its not as bright as }

dull marsh
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AIIYA}

alpine junco
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Oh Rob

dull marsh
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(ASCII decimal)

crisp eagle
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everything in the images make up a set?

alpine junco
fallen jasper
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Yall have the dissun thing

crisp eagle
dull marsh
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Guys it's ASCII for 123, same clue as we keep getting about AiW, 01:23, 321, I we who (3 first words), etc.

crisp eagle
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so then the } we got would be 125?

dull marsh
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The Book of Numbers says that Aaron died at the age of 123.
Aaron could relate to Elvis, but that's pretty weak

sharp flame
dull marsh
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} is 0x7D and 0xD7 in unicode is multiplication sign Ɨ šŸ¤”

fresh quiver
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but then { again would make no sense

sharp flame
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KN is mentioned here, anyone remember that?

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KN was mentioned in the metadata of a very early image, and KN (Kitts Nevis) is where all THE FINALS domains are registered from

alpine junco
sharp flame
gloomy anvil
# alpine junco 123 125

The opening and closing curly brackets in the sponsor images could be 123 125, but they could also represent 123 321 (mirroring the opening bracket)

alpine junco
# sharp flame explain!

If there is any connection: queen, sea, knights, love, prize would be key words in this hunt, wouldnt they?

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I should say part of it

crisp eagle
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I don't know if this could be anything, but 1, 2, and 3 in roman numerals are the first three numbers before a new character is introduced. they are just made up of I's whereas 4 introduces V into the mix with IV

alpine junco
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1+2+3=6 G6 šŸ˜‚

crisp eagle
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I II III

crisp eagle
gloomy anvil
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1,2,3:

  • MW.AREA 1, MW.AREA 2, MW.AREA 3
  • 01:23 = Alice in Wonderland
  • 1, 2, 3 = first human numbers (from the I We Who study)
  • { = 123 ascii
  • Indiana Jones "X Marks the Spot" track length = 3:12
  • STS-123 was flown by Endeavour
  • ABC -> AB Cryptograph ?

sets of three:

  • 3 dawns
  • 3 dolphins
  • commence + promise + hunt = 19/3
  • las vegas + monaco + seoul = 19/3
  • slies + cetacea + asconce = 19/3
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I'm probably missing lots

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The planned launch date of STS-123 was valentine's day which is interesting to note. It also landed at Kennedy, SLF Runway 15, like STS-88 did (the latest STS-88 clue was "END")

eternal violet
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I We Who is also literally 1 2 3 based on the character count

dull marsh
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March 12 1989 (12/3)

Sir Tim Berners-Lee submits his proposal to CERN for an information management system, which subsequently develops into the World Wide Web

crisp eagle
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1, 2, 3 = SOH, STX, ETX

fresh quiver
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did we tried 1 character passwords?
Even when this is possible my worst ever suggestion.

dull marsh
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very unlikely, too easy to bruteforce. it's against the rules but it would be dumb to make it that easy

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12/3 is the Aztec New Year

gloomy anvil
# fresh quiver

Rob arrived in chat after samras forwarded this message about combining multiple images, and seeing a "pattern" to do so. The images we've combined so far have had the curly brackets.

fresh quiver
crisp eagle
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I only know the rule of thirds like in photography. was that a thing in the hunt?

gloomy anvil
fresh quiver
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tiers of L2 can be divided by 3.

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and I think L1 were 3 URLs?

gloomy anvil
alpine junco
crisp eagle
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Annia Cornificia Faustina, the sister of Marcus Aurelius, was born 123 AD

gloomy anvil
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Genesis 1:23 ends the fifth day of creation, in which God made creatures that live in the sea and creatures that fly. (Sega Genesis + Trinity + 123). Not sure how likely that is to be relevant.

dull marsh
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Perhaps 123 is about the 3 first URLs?

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In Level 1:

  • /devoncrossing is related to William Crossing of Devon
  • /galileo is about geolocation and coordinates
  • /ocb is about first geocache
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There was also a clue about Sherlock Holmes "The Hound of the Baskervilles" taking place in Devon, and STS-88 Day 10 Elvis song is "Hound Dog"

crisp eagle
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yea didn't Rob say something about going back to the start of the hunt? and eyed something TonyB said about needing to go to real locations

shy oracle
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well if anything math related is that rob has opened up the curly brackets meaning we've just figured something out now we just gotta put it together

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when he closes it probably means we've made that connection

crisp eagle
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so maybe it points to 3 things total, and each thing has 3 clues that point to them.

hard forge
fresh quiver
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Had Proxima Centauri ever a outcome? I just know it was eyed by rob

dull marsh
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123 can be year 1BC, also known as year 0 (rob 1st message was y0)

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Year zero was "invented" by Kepler

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A year zero does not exist in the Anno Domini (AD) calendar year system commonly used to number years in the Gregorian calendar (nor in its predecessor, the Julian calendar); in this system, the year 1 BC is followed directly by year AD 1 (which is the year of the epoch of the era). However, there is a year zero in both the astronomical year num...

snow walrus
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{0}

alpine junco
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{vii}

crisp eagle
snow walrus
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This is not fun at all... (O_O)

sharp flame
snow walrus
alpine junco
crisp eagle
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seems like this season they show contestants with the number 32 a lot. Then we get that Cerberus skin where it's number is 23 no matter what your number is. just missing the 1

crisp eagle
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well there is the 1%er diamond patch on the jacket haha

worn rivet
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I was JUST about to post that😭😭

crisp eagle
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what if the S5_KeyArt has been our "missing third image" This whole time? The contestant is holding an ISEUL-T Cerberus

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I can't photoshops, but maybe someone good at stuff could stack that dude with the others and see what happens?

hasty anvil
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A bracket is either of two tall fore- or back-facing punctuation marks commonly used to isolate a segment of text or data from its surroundings. They come in four main pairs of shapes, as given in the box to the right, which also gives their names, that vary between British and American English. "Brackets", without further qualification, are in ...

hasty anvil
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From wiki

gloomy anvil
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We could consider the time Rob sent the message, 10:27pm (22:27) CEST, as a possible supplementary clue to the curly bracket. It could've been random too of course.

woeful cipher
dull marsh
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12 3 is LC like Lewis Carroll or LeChuck

dull marsh
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3 21 is CU which can be copper, a metal in group 11 along with silver and gold

sullen warren
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is there a tool i can use to get caught up on where Easter egg is currently at

dull marsh
sullen warren
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thank you šŸ™‚

wind shadow
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idk if its been noticed or said before but theres a background behind the finals logo loading when you launch the game

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the one in bottom right

dull marsh
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STS-88 day 10 was dec 12 1998, but because the wake up calls are at 5:30 or 6:00 and the ISS schedule is in UTC, in part of the US it was still dec 11 1998

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And on december 11 1998 was released Shakespeare in Love, which is 123 minutes long

hard current
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Braces (curly brackets) first became part of a character set with the 8-bit code of the IBM 7030 Stretch.

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Originally designed to meet a requirement formulated by Edward Teller at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, the first example was delivered to Los Alamos National Laboratory in 1961,

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hmmm man I don’t understand how we’re supposed to use 123

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slies cetacea asconce

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1 2 3

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rule of thirds

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oh wait

crisp eagle
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Yea I keep scratching my head trying to find connections with everything else we have to 123

hard current
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sliesc etacea sconce

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if we treat the password as thirds, you’d get something like this?

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Slices, etacea, sconce

eternal violet
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youre missing an a, 19 is not dividable by 3

hard current
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oh you’re right I missed it between asconce and cetacea my bad

crisp eagle
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Maybe things that link together are passwords or parts of passwords going across, not down

dull marsh
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I think we need to look harder into Alice in Wonderland

crisp eagle
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Like how we have
mma1-a mma2-a mma3-a

slies cetacea asconce

dull marsh
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01:23 was AiW, Chapter 10 (X marks the spot) has the White Rabbit, "Porpoise" (was in Dolphin charm description, a cetacea) and "askance" (another spelling for "asconce"), and a gryphon (Level 1 started with that)

hard current
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how did 01:23 lead to that chapter?

dull marsh
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No 01:23 is just AiW

crisp eagle
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X marks the spot

dull marsh
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But Chapter X relates to all 3 parts of Level 3 activation

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Alice in Wonderland seems to be the central element of Level 3, not just 1 clue among the others

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Also before she falls asleep, Alice's sister is reading a book about William the Conqueror, and he is also mentioned explicitely in Chapter 3

hard current
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ā€œFather Williamā€ is mentioned in that chapter too

dull marsh
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Yup, although here it does not relate to William the Conqueror, but still noticeable

crisp eagle
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Rob did say something like ā€œnow look back at all the AiW clues you’ve been givenā€ when 01:23 was solved too

dull marsh
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And Rob has been talking about "rabbit holes" since the beginning of the hunt and we have /burrw...

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And many mirror clues which relates to the mirrored world in Throught the Looking-Glass (sequel to AiW)

crisp eagle
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Is the actual book title ā€œAlice’s Adventures in Wonderlandā€

hard current
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it seems like the lobster quadrille could somehow be instructions for us to.. go out to the sea?

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egad the word askance is in that chapter too!!

dull marsh
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Yes I said so haha

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The part I'm stuck on is to connect the following clues:

  • STS-88
  • Black knight
  • Alice in Wonderland
  • (optionally) /burrw
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Black knight and STS-88 are obviously connected, but I can't see a connection to AiW

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In Through the Looking-Glass there is the White Knight, which is likely one connection for Rob, but it has already been mentioned and is not strong enough imo

hard current
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sorry admittedly I’m painfully hungover and my brain is not firing on all cylinders

dull marsh
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Maybe it's the winning recipe tho šŸ˜„

hard current
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if anyone wanna read it

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welp… chapter X has a ton of things for us

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dumb question but, is there anyway for a player to throw another player

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maybe using a gadget?

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lobster quadrille is essentially just…. pairing up, and throwing a lobster into the ocean

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I wonder if there’s a way for players to pair up and throw the other into the ocean by the cetacea blocks

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or perhaps we’re meant to throw objects found on the map out into the ocean

crisp eagle
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The dance Quadrille is a ā€œsquare danceā€ with 5 figures. A figure in dance is a set of steps. We’ve got 5 sets of coordinate.

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Oh I didn’t even think to see if ā€œlobster quadrilleā€ was actually a thing haha I thought it might just be something funny Carrol combined with a dance

hard current
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the way the lobster quadrille is described doesn’t make sense.. ā€œline up and pairsā€ but a quadrille makes a square

dull marsh
crisp eagle
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I might try to get a copy of the book. I’m sure it can’t be very long. I’m wondering if there’s anything we need to know contextually that leads up to that chapter

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Maybe the events that lead to that part of the book are just as important as the chapter itself

dull marsh
snow walrus
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White Rabbit is kinda a herald in AiW
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herald

A herald, or a herald of arms, is an officer of arms, ranking between pursuivant and king of arms. The title is commonly applied more broadly to all officers of arms.
Heralds were originally messengers sent by monarchs or noblemen to convey messages or proclamations—in this sense being the predecessors of modern diplomats. In the Hundred Years' ...

dull marsh
crisp eagle
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Is that poem part of the book? ā€œAll in the golden afternoonā€

dull marsh
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I think it's at the beginning yes

crisp eagle
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Also included in various editions: an Easter greeting
A Christmas greeting. It’s a stretch but the book is bookended (I know) with gold and egg

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No way I found it on Spotify for free. See y’all on the other side 🫔

dull marsh
crisp eagle
dull marsh
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Yeah, but I didn't dive as deep in the findings, as Chapter X was the only one that seemed to have really obvious connection, the rest not as much

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I mean now more again, with William the Conqueror, but still Chapter X remains the strongest

crisp eagle
fresh kayak
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The white rabbit tattoo in the game is a matrix and alice reference. And the finals is s simulation like the matrix. Just thinking if the rabbit could be a Segway to the Illusion part of the matrix?

snow walrus
dull marsh
fresh kayak
crisp eagle
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From chapter 2 of AiW: Perhaps it doesn't understand English,' thought Alice; I daresay it's a French mouse, come over with William the Conqueror.'

hard current
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there’s a reference to france in chapter 10 as well

dull marsh
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I tend to stray away from stuff relating to france because as a french I know I'll be biased toward it, but maybe there is something there :/

crisp eagle
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I just don’t see many fiction books mention William the Conqueror haha

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I guess it never really registered that Simone Weil is also French. Kinda forgot about her signature joining the party

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Chapter 3 kicks off with Alice giving a lesson on William the Conqueror as ā€œthe driest thingā€ she knows in order to dry off the animals after they got caught in her pool of tears

dull marsh
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Isn't it the mouse giving the 'lecture'?

crisp eagle
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Oh wait yea I heard it wrong haha

snow walrus
pure loom
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That’s an interesting find. I’ve been wondering about Level 1 a bit.

pure loom
snow walrus
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Dartmoor kistvaens are burial tombs or cists from the late Neolithic and early Bronze Age, i.e. from c. 2500 BC to c. 1500 BC. Kistvaens have been found in many places, including Dartmoor, a 954 km2 (368 square miles) area of moorland in south Devon, England. The box-like stone tombs were created when the ancient people of the area lived in hut...

pure loom
dull marsh
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I posted all of that a while ago but I think it went a bit unnoticed

solid jay
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Just thought it would be worth mentioning that page 123 of Alice in Wonderland contains a scene with the Cheshire Cat during the Queen of Hearts croquet match.

dull marsh
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no idea what this is about but it talks about Alice Through the Looking Glass, eggs and empty set

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Given that the current level is called THE HUNT, I'm looking a bit into The Hunt of The Snark

solid jay
dull marsh
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They give 5 marks of the snark, given that it doesn't exist it could be '5 LIES'

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The book illustrations were made by Henry Holiday, an artist who also made stained glass, one of them on his wiki has a pointed finger a bit like the drawing we have in DISSUN's official-art background

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STS-88 could also be 88 = HH = Henry Holiday, as he signed his artpieces with 'hh'

solid jay
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Haven't we discussed quantum computing and superposition in the past? Which is contradictory to boolean logic.

dull marsh
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In it they have a blank map of the ocean, nand say that Mercator's north, poles and equators, [...] are merely conventional signs (just mentioning cuz we have coordinates and all...)

dull marsh
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From one of Lewis Carroll's math book

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There is a version of the long tale which uses A1Z26 cipher

empty plaza
pure loom
# proud minnow {

I’m wondering if this could be a double clue - so ā€œ123ā€ and therefor Alice In Wonderland as @dull marsh pointed out, but also The Matrix since it represents the start of a matrix. So, in the same way that the white rabbit began in AIW but reappeared in The Matrix.

hard current
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both alice in wonderland and the matrix are clues to a sort of false reality

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dreams, dreaming, illusion etc

dull marsh
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Tbf thus far the Matrix clues are pretty loose, there are definitely some ties, particularly thematically, but not much seems to be pointing to it at the current stage and we've mentioned many things related to it and didn't really get eyes or much else

eternal violet
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curly braces are not used for matrices ._.

hard current
eternal violet
gloomy anvil
pure loom
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This could be relevant: In music, they are known as "accolades" or "braces", and connect two or more lines (staves) of music that are played simultaneously.

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A bracket is either of two tall fore- or back-facing punctuation marks commonly used to isolate a segment of text or data from its surroundings. They come in four main pairs of shapes, as given in the box to the right, which also gives their names, that vary between British and American English. "Brackets", without further qualification, are in ...

crisp eagle
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@dull marsh did you ever point out 1+23 = 24 = X
I tried searching for it and didn't find it

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just further points to chapter 10

fresh kayak
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Highly speculative, Arc Raider's robots from "Meat Space" maybe have a similar connection to the robots from the Matrix? Just another twist to it? Do we know anything about lore of the robots from arc raiders?

fallow agate
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Do we know if the finals Easter eggs are related to Arc?

gloomy anvil
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Page 123 of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland describes the Cheshire Cat appearing in front of Alice. Cheshire is the English county that Lewis Carroll grew up in. It was also one of multiple areas targeted by William the Conqueror in the "Harrowing of the North".

There's a settlement called Warren in Cheshire.
OS Grid reference: SJ888688, Postcode district: SK11, Dialing code: 01625.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren,_Cheshire

ionic swallow
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About the practice range roses, I remember Rob said there were roses in other maps too.
I found these two in Vegas, looks like orchid to me, but the base is shaped like a golden egg and can be carried around. Could be related to that hunt? https://imgur.com/a/MTc9Zkx

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Orchids appeared here too

gloomy anvil
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Arthur: "one, two, five!"
Bedevere: "three sir!"
Arthur: "three!"
They use the holy hand grenade against the Rabbit of Caerbannog (white rabbit)

It occurs again in the "answer me these questions three" scene, where Arthur keeps referring to them as five questions. Also, when they spot the bridge keeper, they shout "Look, it's the old man from scene 24" as a fourth wall gag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D7hFHfLEyk

queen rain
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U guys insane yet?

clear adder
dull marsh
gloomy anvil
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Just noticed the stickers on the lower body too

queen rain
queen rain
gloomy anvil
gloomy anvil
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The March equinox falls on March 19-21 (3/21). It will next fall on the 21st in 2102, which is a seemingly relevant in-game year #easter-eggs message

In astronomy, the March equinox is the zero point of sidereal time and, consequently, the right ascension and ecliptic longitude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_equinox

alpine junco
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STS = see the signs

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seek the stars

dull marsh
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One simple link between the ISS and Alice is the idea of freefall

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Something in orbit is technically in freefall, and Alice going into the burrow ends up in freefall for a while

dull marsh
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Probably nonsense rambling, but

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The White Rabbit is late, very late, and we have a lot about Chapter X

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STS-88 was supposed to launch on Dec 3, but was delayed to Dec 4, so it was late, and 88 in ASCII is X

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Perhaps the common point is late-x?

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There is LATEX language which is used a lot to write scientific papers, and it has a heavy use of {} symbols

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There is also if we take burrw and mirror it we get wrrub, could be WR + rub = White Rabbit + Rubber = latex? šŸ˜„

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Also I suspect that all of the empty set clues are for us to look at /burrw

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{ is a perfect clue to link AiW 123 and /burrw missing "o" with empty set {}

snow walrus
dull marsh
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One reason I'm mirroring burrw is because one of the clues in VAIIYA's image is exactly at 1037x731, 1037 and 731 are mirrored numbers, except the 0 has disappeared, just like o in burrow

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Looking a bit more into xyrr1x2, it might actually lead to GPS

  • xy = coordinates
  • rr = Ronald Reagan
  • 1x2 in base64 = 220278 = 22 Feb 1978 = launch of Navstar 1, first GPS satellite
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The 3 regions NA, EU and Asia might match either:

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  • GPS, Galileo and GLONASS (Russia)
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  • GPS, Galileo and BeiDou (China)
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After Korean Air Lines Flight 007 was shot down when it mistakenly entered Soviet airspace, President Ronald Reagan announced that the GPS system would be made available for civilian use
Potential connection to 007

nocturne furnace
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Have we got anywhere with the roses?

dull marsh
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GPS has L1 to L5 frequencies, L3 is for enforcing nuclear test ban treaties (not sure how), could relate to L3AIM

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To acquire signal, it mentions Euler (not too surprising, but could be a link)

The carrier is a complex number where real and imaginary components are both sinusoids as described by Euler's formula.

dull marsh
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MW = 13 23, and 13:23 = 1:23pm, so perhaps MW.Area = AiW.Area = Alice in Wonderland Area

dull marsh
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perchance way

glass wharf
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I was just listening to a song called White Rabbit, and I know there are white rabbits in the finals. There was also a time with rob was playing with Rockhoundblack and waterdance and ( Sory if i butchered the names:) someone (not sure of their name) figured out that 1:23 (rob always posted I think at this time) was AIW which is Alice in wonder Land. Now I'm not to sure if it has anything to do with this song but I thought I would bring it up.
The song was in the Matrix
Its called White Rabbits by the Jefferson Airplane

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Maybe the song might have clues but I am not sure, just bringing it up

dull marsh
glass wharf
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well hopefully this might help

empty heron
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I think there's something to the parry arcs thing. I seem to remember there's an ancient south American stone. Record of a very specific kind of parry arc where the sun had three halos at sunrise.

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It's also notable that the Aztec sun stone has been featured multiple times this season in various ways.

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My bad it was the sumerians. Almost the exact other side of the globe. Here's that anyways.

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Also of particular note. These kinds of arcs would be found looking towards the sun from very specific positions. Maybe there is a certain spot on one of the maps where it's best to look at the sun.

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Japan is also "the land of the rising sun, ā€œ///ā€œ and the kiyomizu-dera temple is a well known sun-watching location and is prominently featured at the center of the Kyoto map.

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Gonna go do some sun watching on that map and see what I see

fresh kayak
fallow agate
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They could just be reusing textures

fresh kayak
hard current
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I miss Rob

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I wonder if he thinks about us

empty heron
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I have made a rather distressing discovery. Skyway stadium has no sun whatsoever.

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Sys also now confirmed to be sunless.

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Man Holtow's got some explaining to do...

empty heron
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Maybe more than half. I don't think fortune does either.

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And I haven't checked Bernal or Monaco, but I'm pretty sure I've seen the sun in Kyoto. Sys has a sunset, kinda. It's digital though and we already solved that one.

twin oasis
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sys has sunset varient no?

low escarp
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sys has sunny day with sun fully visible and sunset

empty heron
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Sunny day shows the sun? I was just on that variant and couldn't find the sun anywhere.

hard current
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yeah it’s the synth wave sun in off the seashore right?

empty heron
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Weird that I missed that. Could've sworn that was the first place I checked.

low escarp
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skyway

empty heron
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Ah no wonder I didn't see that. Alright holtow. You get a pass for now...

low escarp
low escarp
opal pond
alpine junco
snow walrus
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yea that was DISSUN's fault

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probably i shouldn't have said that as a signee šŸ˜„

pale quarry
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just found this on the back of seoul

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has this rabbit been found?

dull marsh
pale quarry
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but it only appeared on goo from the goo gun

worn rivet
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Do we have a bnuy spray ?

crisp eagle
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oops I thought this was off topic chat and it was a joke, which is why I laugh reacted. My bad

crisp eagle
snow walrus
# pale quarry

That must be a bug, one of the original WR is just right there

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Is that the outer wall of the data center? Partially destructed?

worn rivet
snow walrus
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Im on my phone ._.

worn rivet
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Me too

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My xbox is right behind me tho

dull marsh
keen ravine
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you can do this and move it around the map :3

crisp eagle
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So there is a WR spray?

keen ravine
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not that I know of

dull marsh
torn swallow
dull marsh
burnt sun
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the red mannequins in the practice range work the same

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if you destroy the floor they despawn, repair it with goo, they respawn

torn swallow
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So are you saying since the sign is destroyed its projecting above where it usually is?

empty plaza
worn rivet
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I doubt the grafitis are something new, but just in case

alpine junco
pure loom
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I wondered if Argon Casino might be in the NE, as in ArgonNE - but it's SW, so I guess a mirrored connection could apply, but it would be an odd sort of connection

hard current
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some thinking has prompted me to think of rule of 3rds, trinity, etc

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the only rule in the past we've had was simply e = 3

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sli3sc3tac3aasconc3

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not sure if it is anything but if it piques any thoughts

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sli3s
c3tac3a
asconc3

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ah it bothers me to know end that that password can't be split up evenly into 3rds

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or

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sli 3 sc 3 tac 3 aasconc 3

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I'm trying to take robs clues more literally... alot of the time we get deep into theory, history, etc, but don't consider what that means we have to do with what we already have

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that was all we saw in level 2, we had names, ideas, passwords, but needed to do something to them to figure it out

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and right now, all we have is sliescetaceasconce

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I think the first of the password tiers in this level might have to be built out of that

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but I could be wrong

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another theory I've had is

what if each part of this levels passwords correspond to slies cetacea and askance individually? can cetacea be broken down further into suborders? can slies and Llies and one other liar be present? etc etc

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Mysticeti

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Odontoceti

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doesn't look like there's a 3rd suborder :/

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The Eocene (IPA: /ˈiːəsiːn, ˈiːoʊ-/ EE-ə-seen, EE-oh-[5][6]) is a geological epoch that lasted from about 56 to 33.9 million years ago (Ma). It is the second epoch of the Paleogene Period in the modern Cenozoic Era. The name Eocene comes from the Ancient Greek į¼ØĻŽĻ‚ (Ēṓs, "Dawn") and ĪŗĪ±Ī¹Ī½ĻŒĻ‚ (kainós, "new") and refers to the "dawn" of modern ('new') fauna that appeared during the epoch (dolphins, cetaceans came around here)

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oh hey look, a dawn

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The word "askance" originates from the Middle English word "askant," meaning sideways or obliquely. Its exact etymology is uncertain, but it is believed to have evolved from older forms conveying a sense of sideways or indirect gaze.

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this is what we had to do to catch the 3HM right?

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have we tried triggering the dolphins with an indirect view?

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looking into the sphere maybe?

ruby prawn
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gonna shizo post rq - when it comes to the Practice range roses beans stuff, i found that coffee beans (turned into coffee grounds) can actually be used too "feed" roses

empty plaza
ruby prawn
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Wait actually? xd i thought everyone would just look at my message and go "eh ive seen that before" or "nah no way this is anything good " lmao

empty plaza
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Thank you! happy_friend

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Works right into what we've got going

ruby prawn
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i actually learned this a VERY long time ago in like 2nd grade when my teacher said something about using coffee to grow/feed flowers or smth

empty plaza
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If you have more stuff like that, join us in here

ruby prawn
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do i have the permission?

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i guess i do

hard current
empty plaza
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Aventine Hill, a Rose Garden in Cosmedin, Rome, overlooks the Basilica of Santa Maria, where St. Valentine's alleged skull rests. 🌹

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The trees and layout inside the Practice Range look eerily similar to those of Aventine Hill

eternal violet
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We have all the same stuff like in level 2, except 9 passwords simultaneously instead of 1 which makes this super hard, because the clues are not converging into one place

eternal violet
crisp eagle
dull marsh
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And in the 3 passwords, the first one probably leads to the second leading to the third

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So all clues should converge to a somewhat unique idea

eternal violet
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rob said he put 9 clues in the first image, very convenient number. they could be 3 for each areas first password, but i personally took it as one for each password field

hard current
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oh something else to note @unborn pilot brought up how rob specifically wanted the beginning password for level 3 to be 19 characters long, meaning the length likely is important for this part of the level (I can’t find the message where this was but cade doesn’t lie)

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is it possible we’re missing something with rule of 3rds as well?

rule of 3rds - dividing an image into 9 equal parts - we have 9 passwords

crisp eagle
crisp eagle
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I sound like a broken record but details like that make it so difficult for me to not have my headcanon keep falling back on The Dark Tower series or just Stephen King in general. There’s just no clues that point there definitely

hard current
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Everyone’s got their own ideas and we all pull in different ways, someone’s bound to figure it out eventually but cade and I agreed last night we want to start to being more literal

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we can find all the connections and everything we want but it feels like right now the only way to get any of the passwords is to derive it from sliescetaceaasconce

hard current
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ugh yeah that’s frustrating

sl
ie
sc
et
ac
ea
as
co
nc
e

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no good way to do rule of 3rds with 19 letters

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I’d like to try and trigger the dolphins in sys horizon sometime soon but only by looking at them askance lol

crisp eagle
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So do you think the clues we have so far point to ā€œthe firstā€ password, whichever one that might be, or do you think it’s been a mix of clues that each point to different passwords?

hard current
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I think the use of 19 near the end of the beginning of this level was no coincidence

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so many things pointed to 19 and sure, maybe Rob only meant it as ā€œthere are 19 characters in the passwordā€ but that doesn’t seem like him

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there’s a reason it’s 19 characters long

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I think it’s a mix yeah

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there’s no one central password to chase this time around, so it’s gotta be a mix unless Rob has like 10 more artworks with clues to give us over the course of this level xD

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so technically, there are 3 ā€œfirstā€ passwords here

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and best I see, a lot of things rn are pointing at

trinity/3rds/rule of thirds… only, WHAT should there be 3 of? what should be split into 3rds? we have a password with 19 characters, how do you split that up evenly then? etc etc

crisp eagle
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I was thinking maybe the images are split using the rule of thirds from photography. Each clue found on the far left side goes to a password, all middle clues for another, and all right side for another. But then there’s the hidden picture in powe_i_powe that kinda lands in all three sections

hard current
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check this out

fresh quiver
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Number 19 has connections to Lagrange. or more his four square theorem

crisp eagle
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I won’t lie, when it comes to the math side I get a bit lost but I see it. So we have The Rule of Thirds, The Golden Ratio, Golden Rectangles, and Golden Spirals. Then Trinity which would include Christ, who gave us The Golden Rule

hard current
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remember, afaik we haven’t ever had to DO any heavy math, it’s always been pointing to a concept more so

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slies - 5
cetacea - 7
asconce - 7

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simone weil lies 🄹

crisp eagle
gloomy anvil
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The curly brackets around the last two images indicate a set, right?

"SET" = 537 in leet (3,5,7) KBBQ_think

hard current
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oh wait that’s an image principal too

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The term composition means "putting together". It can be thought of as the organization of the elements of art according to the principles of art. Composition can apply to any work of art, from music through writing and into photography, that is arranged using conscious thought.
In the visual arts, composition is often used interchangeably with ...

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rule of odds, 1,3,5,7 objects in an image are better than an even number

gloomy anvil
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btw speaking of 3,5,7

unique sinew
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I just got here what should I do to get started learning about the easter egg hunt? Is there a lore document or something along those lines?

dull marsh
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Hello welcome here, you can start by having a look at #egg-hunt-onboarding , RockhoundBlack videos are a great place to start, the wiki has a lot of details and the Miro board tries to summarize all the clues for the big Easter egg hunt

unique sinew
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Thank you so much

snow walrus
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I think there is a potentially hidden flamingo charm from S1 idk how but I am going to post something about Las Vegas that connects (not directly) to RHB's šŸ‘€ed findings.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flamingo_Las_Vegas
Flamingo Las Vegas (formerly the Flamingo Hilton) is a casino hotel on the Las Vegas Strip. It is owned and operated by Caesars Entertainment.
The Flamingo was built on the Las Vegas Strip, known then as U.S. Route 91.

The resort was originally proposed by Billy Wilkerson who purchased the land in 1945. He partnered with a trio of mobsters to obtain financing. Among his partners was Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel.

By May 1946, the project had been named the Flamingo, although it is disputed as to who came up with the name: Siegel or Wilkerson. Mobster Lucky Luciano (I will come to this name later), in a purported memoir published in 1975 after his death, credited Siegel with the name.
Siegel purportedly viewed the bird as a good-luck charm.

The Flamingo figures prominently in the 1992 novel Last Call. In the book,
Flamingo is supposedly founded on Siegel's mythical/mystical paranoia of being pursued and killed for his archetypal position as the "King of the West", known mythologically as "Fisher King". Supposedly the Flamingo itself was meant to be a real-life personification of "The Tower" card of the tarot deck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Call_(novel)

Also:
The resort appears in Viva Las Vegas, a rock and roll musical film starring Elvis Presley as Lucky Jackson.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viva_Las_Vegas

These are my findings about the Flamingo resort. Now let's get to the names.

Flamingo Las Vegas (formerly the Flamingo Hilton) is a casino hotel on the Las Vegas Strip in Paradise, Nevada. It is owned and operated by Caesars Entertainment. The Flamingo includes a 72,299 sq ft (6,716.8 m2) casino and a 28-story hotel with 3,460 rooms.
The resort was originally proposed by Billy Wilkerson, founder of The Hollywood Reporter...

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Bugsy Siegel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugsy_Siegel
was an American mobster who was a driving force behind the development of the Las Vegas Strip.
His biographical film by TriStar Pictures:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugsy

Siegel was one of the founders and leaders of Murder, Inc (Big Seven) -It was initially headed by Louis "Lepke" Buchalter and later by Albert "Mad Hatter" Anastasia-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder,_Inc.

Murder Inc acted as the enforcement arm of the National Crime Syndicate. (speculation: NCS-> CNS maybe?)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Crime_Syndicate

the Syndicate was an idea of Johnny "The Fox" Torrio. (Five Points Gang, Bowery Boys connection here)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Torrio#Early_life
and it was founded at Atlantic City conference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_City_Conference which many underworld leaders attended, including: Johnny Torrio, Charles "Lucky" Luciano, Al "Big Al" Capone, Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel, Albert "Mad Hatter" Anastasia and more.

Charles "Lucky" Luciano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Luciano as an Italian-born gangster he started his criminal career in the Five Points Gang and was instrumental in the development of the National Crime Syndicate. He was also the first official boss of the modern Genovese crime family (Luciano crime family), one of Five Families of NYC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Families

His biographical film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Luciano_(film)

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it's pretty long so im not gonna post every detail to not clutter here as i put many links as possible to further read

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National Crime Syndicate and Atlantic City Conference wiki pages has many underworld mob names

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-and lastly, apart from this during my research I've also found this:

gloomy anvil
pure loom
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I've found a connection between a store item and the NYC Guided Age that I hadn't spotted before.

I had noted previously (#easter-eggs message) that this Flat Cap in the game's store has a houndstooth pattern (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houndstooth), and that the earliest known version of this can be traced to a cloak that was found in Sweden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerum_Cloak) - Rob responded to that find here: #easter-eggs message. But interestingly, In an early reference to houndstooth, De Pinna, a New York City–based men's and women's high-end clothier founded in 1885, included houndstooth checks along with gun club checks and Scotch plaids as part of its 1933 spring men's suits collection.

De Pinna was located at 642-50 Fifth Avenue which was previously the location of Vanderbilt Triple Palace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanderbilt_Triple_Palace

The Gerum Cloak is a nearly intact brown wool cloak dating from 360 – 100 BC that was found in a peat bog on Gerumsberget plateau, Vastra Gotaland, Sweden in 1920. The cloak is oval shaped and has a few small holes in it, mainly around the bottom edge. The biggest of these holes was made by Johan Fredrik Klasson with his shovel when he was diggi...

The Triple Palace, also known as the William H. Vanderbilt House, was an elaborate mansion at 640 Fifth Avenue between 51st Street and 52nd Street in Midtown Manhattan, New York City. The urban mansion, completed in 1882 to designs by John B. Snook and Charles B. Atwood, was owned by members of the Vanderbilt family. It was composed of two porti...

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The findings that led to that are in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epr-x50rEig

In Episode 11 of Beyond The Walls, I provide an update on Level 3 of THE FINALS Easter Egg puzzle and show you a discovery we made that revealed the inspiration for the entire lore of THE FINALS.

This series covers hot topics and news about Embark Studios' games, THE FINALS and the in-development ARC Raiders, and their communities, as well as u...

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Not sure if this is more EE or more lore, as lore-wise it seems to relate a lot to the sponsor and all, but EE-wise it seemed to lead to Central Park, which has a LOT of stuff related to the hunt in it

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(including a sculpture about Alice in Wonderland)

dull marsh
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I'm trying to think hard (with difficulty), I'm seeing 2 convergence points in Level 3:

  • STS-88 Day 10 Elvis song "Hound Dog"
  • and Alice in Wonderland Chapter X with all 3 elements of level3activation and more
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In AiW there is a hound dog called "Bayard"

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I'm also seeing a common theme in both which is about not catching a rabbit

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Hound Dog:

Yeah, you ain't never caught a rabbit

Alice in Wonderland Chapter X:

So Alice began telling them her adventures from the time when she first saw the White Rabbit. She was a little nervous about it just at first, the two creatures got so close to her, one on each side, and opened their eyes and mouths so very wide

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That Alice quote also mentions "opened their eyes"

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There is the term Rabbit Run (RR) which can mean a rabbit warren (/burrw?) or a rabbit hutch

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"Rabbit hunt" is a term in poker about revealing cards that would have been dealt if the hand had continued, but it doesn't seem super relevant

crisp eagle
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-Endeavour (STS-88) : Node 1 Unity
-Discovery (STS-120) : Node 2 Harmony
-Endeavour (STS-130) : Node 3 Tranquility

dull marsh
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I was thinking that SLIES does contain ISS + LE šŸ¤”

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Checked ISS 13 and 31 missions, there is an astronaut called AndrƩ Kuipers which caught my attention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AndrƩ_Kuipers

AndrĆ© Kuipers (Dutch: [ĖˆÉ‘ndreː ˈkœypərs] ; born 5 October 1958) is a Dutch physician and ESA astronaut. He became the second Dutch citizen, third Dutch-born and fifth Dutch-speaking astronaut upon launch of Soyuz TMA-4 on 19 April 2004. Kuipers returned to Earth aboard Soyuz TMA-3 11 days later.
Kuipers is the first Dutch astronaut to return to ...

keen ravine
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Do we know of any EEs connected to meteors?

dull marsh
hard forge
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i have too much to catch up.

keen ravine
dull marsh
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I mean we didn't get new eyes in a while so no big progress since then

crisp eagle
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at least whenever ya'll do catch up and have something to say, it's relevant. I just shoot in the dark and stumble around

unique sinew
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is there a easy place to find all the picture for part 3

unique sinew
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Thanks so much

pure loom
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I was just looking at some gameplay from The Secret of Monkey Island, and was reminded of Rob saying that Nama Tama likes to go to three places on holiday X, X, X #easter-eggs message

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I saw this keg of gunpowder with XXX on it

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I then looked at gunpowder on Wikipedia, and saw that it's considered one of 4 great inventions from China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Great_Inventions

The Four Great Inventions are inventions from ancient China that are celebrated in Chinese culture for their historical significance and as symbols of ancient China's advanced science and technology. They are the compass, gunpowder, papermaking and printing.
These four inventions had a profound impact on the development of civilization throughou...

hard current
indigo pasture
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do u think this is in relation to the dolphin easter egg?

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i found something weird in the files its IRS layer of some sort of hair and it contains text and numbers perhaps one of the hair styles in game has something hidden in them

fresh quiver
velvet narwhal
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I never noticed that. I think rob once said something about the sound the demat makes (might have to look for that).

velvet narwhal
gloomy anvil
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The 1944 short film 'X Marks the Spot' was directed by Warren Murray.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZQgmZUdCjw

It was featured in the MST3K (Mystery Science Theater 3000) episode 'King Dinosaur'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSIiqn2v7wE

Prologue delivered by Commissioner Arthur W. Magee. Careless & inconsiderate drivers cause accidents & deaths during war time. New Jersey driver Joe is killed at an intersection in a residential area. His guardian angel man (looks like gangster) takes him before the judge where examples of every type of driving mistake is made by the deceased. G...

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velvet narwhal
gloomy anvil
dull marsh
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I don't think yet, but it's cool thing to know, definitely sus

gloomy anvil
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Not sure if this has been brought up in detail before. "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure" was LucasArts' point-and-click adventure game adaptation of The Last Crusade film (which featured the "X marks the spot" scene and centers around the Holy Grail). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade:_The_Graphic_Adventure

It released one year before "The Secret of Monkey Island" and three years before "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis", which is the game Rob sent a screenshot from here in connection to "X marks the spot" and burrw: #1178137622359593043 message

Rob recently mentioned LucasArts point-and-click games: #1292576119849095210 message

sweet thistle
gloomy anvil
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Skyway Tri-Star > TriStar Pictures? Note the wings

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Might not be connected but another 3 stars in this sticker, plus "steal the spotlight" (STS / see the signs?)

velvet narwhal
dull marsh
snow walrus
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amazing..

keen ravine
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lmao perfect

snow walrus
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swtg twice in a row

keen ravine
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bruh

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this game

snow walrus
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i think its because the mode bank it

keen ravine
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It removes the color in the window

keen ravine
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just a lighting bug?

snow walrus
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that reflection comes from the rose window

dull marsh
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I'd assume so? I feel like EE's are made to leave no ambiguity šŸ¤”

snow walrus
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now its gone

gloomy anvil
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burrow + warren + carroll is 19 letters but I might be reaching with that one

dull marsh
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Could be worth looking a bit into this

hard current
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I commented

{

in water dances chat and rob said ā€œoh look we have a programmer in chatā€

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remember when rob commented that not long ago?

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maybe we’re thinking about it wrong

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{ } isn’t a set like discrete mathematics, but has to do with programming

dull marsh
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{} was introduced in programming in the B language, precursor of C

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Could be relevant with ABC = 123

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Before that in COBOL the equivalent was BEGIN and END I think

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Or it was in FORTRAN

fresh quiver
snow walrus
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The heart symbol is an ideograph used to express the idea of the "heart" in its metaphorical or symbolic sense. Represented by an anatomically inaccurate shape, the heart symbol is often used to represent the center of emotion, including affection and love, especially romantic love. It is sometimes accompanied or superseded by a "wounded heart" ...

rugged breach
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Time to start running in circles everywhere trying to summon roses

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Direction may not matter or be a certain sequence, as he was running counter clockwise and then clockwise

snow walrus
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Marker stone for the burial place of Robert the Bruce's heart, Melrose Abbey

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nothing related but worth to see :d

unborn pilot
unborn pilot
gloomy anvil
snow walrus
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You are right.. CNSpiracy theories are BEYOND us

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conspiracy.. remove o -> cnspiracy -> CNS?

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btw ^image from a demoscene called beyond from conspiracy

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look at the naming

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i think it's a pretty good abbreviation for in-game rogue hackers

dull marsh
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it is so so so fitting, CNS + piracy

snow walrus
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and yet no šŸ‘€.. 😭

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tbh he may not want to reveal that tho

fresh quiver
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I dig those demogroup websites etc for hours some afternoons.
and today rob just said about demogroups its not related to anything. atleast i guess we can say interpret that as this

snow walrus
snow walrus
fresh quiver
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could that mean

image = } = END (of password?)
and something { = begin (of password?)

dull marsh
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Could also explain why we got STS-88 clue with "END" (for Endeavour)

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We're trying to solve the Big Easter Egg hunt, it's a massive puzzle made by Rob

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Now we're onto Level 3 and it is pretty freaking hard šŸ˜„

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We got 9 passwords to find, and have very little idea what they are even about thus far

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Usually once we enter a correct password it leads to a page with a new image which also contains clues

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We think Level 3 is the last stage, but not 100% sure

hard current
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wait, maybe what rob is getting at is

Beginning {
middle
end }

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3 parts to each of the passwords

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maybe we’re not looking for entire phrases or words, but the beginning the middle and the end

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and something we’ve been given would tell us what the delimiting letter is

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i.e. A is the delimiter

mma-1a = ba
mma-1b = la
mma-1c = tro

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if you were to use balatro lol

dull marsh
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I'm not familiar with it @opaque reef

hard current
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better yet, given rr and 1x2 and xy, I wonder if we’re looking for code snippets

dull marsh
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Ah gotcha, with the depth of some clues we're never safe, Rob could drop clues in the most obscure ways šŸ˜„

low escarp
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found an EE frogonesie

pure loom
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I just found a strange little connection between numbers we've found on trees and the American Football outfits in the store (as well as another connection to X): #1203859365610922036 message

pure loom
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Can someone please link me to that super long cipher that's still to be deciphered? The one that has like 30 characters in it, if that helps to describe it. I can't recall which thread it was in.

dull marsh
pure loom
pure loom
fresh quiver
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which audiofile that is would help at the beginning šŸ™‚

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yes. atleast this would give us a clue about which audio you are talking

dull marsh
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Ngl I'm not seeing anything clear in there šŸ˜…

red light
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I did the same yesterday, just record demat noises of different objects in PR. I don't think size is matter here, for me noise and spectrogram always same

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Something that I notice it's four horizontal line in different frequencies that makes sharp sounds time to time. But I guess it's just how sound work

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Hmm interesting

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Horizontal line it's frequency

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Color represents level of sound I think

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Volume

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But I still think it's possible for something being hidden in spectr

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I have but I still can't post pics here:(

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I send later when I'll up my level on server

gloomy anvil
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Embark showing the R .357 animations in front of the 357 sign CH_PepeNotes

red light
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I notice if you demat few objects near to each other sounds will blend together and it's start sound different bc of mixing I think

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But only one demat object always sound same

dull marsh
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Another "coincidence" I assume šŸ˜„

mossy wedge
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Do you remember the white "bugs" in certain map locations just before the start of the 2nd season?

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Did it lead to anything specific?

dull marsh
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We called them the glitch clusters, there was apparently some stuff related to them but we never found out

gloomy anvil
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I'm probably reaching too far here but in the spirit of coincidences

  • X shape and "savage" (Fear and Loathing novel title)
  • "Sunset" and 11 points on the spur wheel
mossy wedge
dull marsh
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Yup, we didn't find any particular pattern

velvet narwhal
velvet narwhal
dull marsh
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Hmm thinking about it I think it was 4-4-3-3, which could be related to some poetry, in particular the sonnet

mossy wedge
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has anyone tried chatgpt to help with this? šŸ˜…

velvet narwhal
dull marsh
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Nope, we don't, it's against the rules and the spirit of the hunt

velvet narwhal
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and it's hallucinating useless stuff anyways

dull marsh
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If we don't struggle, then it won't feel rewarding šŸ˜„

velvet narwhal
mossy wedge
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well, if a year has already passed, the devs' efforts might go to waste, and no new content can be created by this matter. It would be great for the game to see more activity in this regard. I don't entirely see why AI is restricted in this way, as I can't read all the world's poetry myself, but I understand why such a rule might appear here

dull marsh
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Rob, who's the main EE mastermind for THE FINALSā„¢ļø, is completely fine with some EEs not being found

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As he explained before, he never gives EEs away, even for old games he worked on 20 years ago, because you never know if in 20 more years someone might emulate your game and make it run again and find those EEs

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But yeah the point of not using AIs is that it's a puzzle for us, and hunters have fun with puzzles, if we just feed an AI and it comes up with an answer then why even play in the first place?

mossy wedge
# dull marsh But yeah the point of not using AIs is that it's a puzzle for *us*, and hunters ...

AI can't just provide the answer because it only uses previously fed data. It can't solve EEs by itself since it requires collecting various pieces and making sense of them so AI can help find relations. I don't understand the criticism of AI in cases when it clearly helps people progress. While I agree that taking jobs away from creators is a concern and it's a shame to "hack" the solution but I believe the most valuable contribution from AI like is offering tips or ideas related to the task, such as potential names or authors and nothing more. Also, sometimes it's stupid and it can misguide you even more

Still, I respect the rules, but I just wanted to offer advice on how to attract more people into EE and keep the activity going, rather than just having one interesting video every few months for a niche community

dull marsh
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The question is not really about AI being ethical for jobs or anything, but as you said

I don't understand the criticism of AI in cases when it clearly helps people progress.
That IS the issue, if it helps us then it definitely found stuff out, and if it doesn't then might as well not use it

fresh quiver
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AI gives more then 50% wrong anwers about certain things.

mossy wedge
mossy wedge
dull marsh
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Would love to get Rob to answer that, I'm 100% sure he would say he's fine if we never find it, but sadly he's not over here often anymore sad_friend

fresh quiver
mossy wedge
mossy wedge
velvet narwhal
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We won't use AI and that's that

fresh quiver
mossy wedge
fresh quiver
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It said don't use it. So don't use it

velvet narwhal
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We as a EE hunting community have decided that

dull marsh
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We are not angry about it lol, I'm sure most of us are pretty fine with it, we're just giving some reason as to why it's not allowed in the hunt šŸ˜„

mossy wedge
fresh quiver
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I read the messages.

mossy wedge
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so why are you asking "why are you discussing about a rule?"?

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i wanted to find a way to attract more people to EEs but you lead it all to AI madness

dull marsh
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Ok I think the discussion won't go any further anyway and we should stop it there before we all get annoyed at each other hug_friend

mossy wedge
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the left one looks like minecraft creeper

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(no AI involved here!)

ashen hill
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Oh wait

mossy wedge
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left one

ashen hill
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Got my left and rights confused again dogCry

mossy wedge
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the right one - yeah

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and pacman in the middle

sharp flame
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eno + rino
INDUSTRIES co. ltd.

dull marsh
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Is it really "eno + rino" or is it supposed to read "enotrino"? šŸ¤”

sharp flame
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but I see how it could be

dull marsh
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oh yes yes for sure it's a "+", but is it just a stylistic choice?

sharp flame
cold heart
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my fingers are crossed anyways šŸ¤žšŸ¤Ŗ ok- im out

mossy wedge
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eno=one

sharp flame
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eno- and rino- are BOTH prefixes in Greek

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eno refers to wine
rino refers to the nose

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I have one more idea

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it may be an anagram:
eno+rino
neo-noir

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Neo-noir is a film genre that adapts the visual style and themes of 1940s and 1950s American film noir for contemporary audiences, often with more graphic depictions of violence and sexuality. During the late 1970s and the early 1980s, the term "neo-noir" surged in popularity, fueled by movies such as Sydney Pollack's Absence of Malice, Brian De...

sharp flame
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0123456789 on the eno+rino jacket

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looks like it's placeholder tho..

smoky owl
crisp eagle
sharp flame
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maybe we can figure out what the newspaper says here?

gloomy anvil
alpine junco
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I see ā€œThe Latest Of The Matchā€?

gloomy anvil
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From all 12 Fir.. Division
..... and members of

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It's repeated in lots of places

sharp flame
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RFU chairman Brian Baister attended the meeting together with representatives from all 12 First Division -

crisp eagle
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Looks like they reused that same main text

gloomy anvil
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clubs and members of sporting ...

sharp flame
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(RFU is the England Rugby Football Union)

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Yep, it repeats all over

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I've looked up the text but it doesn't seem to exist online..

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also there is a "Ct. Caval"

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and "Catalan.. low price.. Barcelona's-"

gloomy anvil
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The exact date of this newspaper could be a clue

sharp flame
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so we have a range of 3 years

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here is something close to a title:

gloomy anvil
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another part of it

dull marsh
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DiCaprio
minutes
Cfades afte
solemn
exquisite
Huin
Julius Cae
muscle, the
the Rod Base
Ho.. did
aliv

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Ring, ... director dr...
Vent Stock brokers, says: 'If you are (going?)
to invest for the first time,

sharp flame
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"be a good way to"
at the bottom

gloomy anvil
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looks like S.... brokers

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oh I'm late tothat one

dull marsh
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convectional faces?
advisory service
investors will not bar??
stamp duty tax as...
share ...

sharp flame
gloomy anvil
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C. Caval.
Catalan
low price

sharp flame
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game, rugby's governing body has become more conciliatory.
RFU chairman Brian Baister attended the meeting together with representatives from all 12 First Division

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largest chunk of back-to-back text there

dull marsh
crisp eagle
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RFU logo is a rose

dull marsh
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Yup, which is England's national emblem

hard forge
crisp eagle
dull marsh
red light
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Recently I was thinking about cannons on Monaco and which direction they pointed
Bc Monaco based of real location what if we overlay game map and real map
And maybe see where location on world map cannons are pointing

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Maybe someone alredy did this idk

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And as Rob said cannon are part of big EE too

gloomy anvil
wind smelt
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the pw to level 3 is still being worked on right

dull marsh
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The 9 passwords yes

fresh quiver
gloomy anvil
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the password to access the level 3 page is sliescetaceaasconce

fresh quiver
gloomy anvil
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it's interesting that it's still password locked

fresh quiver
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absolutely. just thought about it yesterday

crisp eagle
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I always think it’s a reminder for us to still use those words, or to remember we need to combine three things again in general

fresh quiver
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When it is still locked. normally it would mean we are not done with it yet. imo

dull marsh
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Brian Baister being happily retired, the RFU’s man from Llandudno
As @cold heart pointed out the other day about Llandudno's house where Alice Lindell stayed for vacation, which I think inspired either AiW or Through the Looking Glass

fresh quiver
unreal jetty
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After a long 6 month ban I HAVE RETURNED AT LAST AHAHAHA

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Dont worry I've had time to chill out and be respectful:)

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So did you guys ever solve the EE tier thingy? One with the 3hm dolphin and WR?

sharp flame
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the password was a weird combination of the 3

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but now we have more.. passwords..

unreal jetty
sharp flame
dull marsh
unreal jetty
unreal jetty
unreal jetty
unreal jetty
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Last thing I remember seeing was "Mods, goo this guy" and I was banished to Hueco Mundo

unreal jetty
sharp flame
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Did anyone buy the Partybreaker headwear?

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(the pinata)

crisp eagle
unreal jetty
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So none of the 9 passwords have been found right?

unreal jetty
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Is this like Surfer Coordinate Systems like longitude and latitude?

tired aspen
unreal jetty
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Yep I abandoned my last acc so that's prolly why it looks like I haven't. Maybe an IP ban

tired aspen
unreal jetty
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Okk:(

unreal jetty
tired aspen
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there. changed it for you. carry on

unreal jetty
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Whattt howw

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I didn't know you could do that

sharp flame
gloomy anvil
sharp flame
crisp eagle
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Well if nobody else gets it, I’m sure I’ll be buying that one just because that’s what I do, and I’ll let anyone point the sniper rifle at my head for science.

sharp flame
unreal jetty
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How do I join the Lvl 3 coordinate thread?

sharp flame
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in the "..." on the top right, you can select "join thread"

dull marsh
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No he needs to rank up first

unreal jetty
red light
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I think i was wrong... I tried demat objects in PR again and looks like tree sound different...

snow walrus
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Do you remember why some of the cards' back has this on the trailer

snow walrus
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If we remove duplicate letters of sliescetaceaasconce
we get 9 letters : **sliectano **
which can be:
coastline
or
sectional

shy oracle
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SILENCIO! PES2_HappyWizard lol

alpine junco
dusk siren
dull marsh
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I think Clade is also used for subcategory in taxonomy šŸ¤”

dusk siren
dusk siren
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Just to whet the appetite, this sort of thing:

hard current
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similarly if you only keep duplicated letters you get

eac, or
eeaceaace which lowkey could be a dolphin call fr (please ignore me)

dusk siren
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Yeah, coastline is gooooooood. I like it

hard current
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only thing I can think of is the weird stuff along the coastline of sys horizon

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it flashes symbols/numbers

dusk siren
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One thing about major taxonomies (botany, astronomy) that is nice is that significant people and events get referenced. Here is a plant named in part after The Red Baron (fwiw - maybe nothing)

dusk siren
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thx man... i promise i'll post once more then spend the next week just trying to read through everything you guys have been up to! Looks fantastic, though.

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Maybe there is one or two things that you'd suggest someone coming back to the community should focus on first?

gloomy anvil
unreal jetty
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So do you think this map has anything to do with the world tour map?

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Welp I'm not high enough level to send the picture:(

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The blue background world layout with the coordinates and dots

fresh quiver
unreal jetty
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Not sure but has Rob given any hints or tips as what to do with the map and coordinates?

dull marsh
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no

unreal jetty
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Oof

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Ig he doesn't give hints anymore?

snow walrus
dull marsh
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Hi Midas šŸ‘€

spare steppe
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@errant imp just made a discovery šŸ‘€

snow walrus
dull marsh
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Fantail #4 found by @errant imp

snow walrus
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ooh

sharp flame
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YOOOOO

dull marsh
hard current
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NEW

unreal jetty
dull marsh
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AYEEEE, gg @low escarp

unreal jetty
rugged breach
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3/3

unreal jetty
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Is that a steamer clam?

opal pond
unreal jetty
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So what theories do you guys have for what we are supposed to find for the passwords?

hard current
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right now… unfortunately very little

fresh quiver
snow walrus
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the worst part that blocks us to proceed in my opinion is: we couldn't find anything meaningful with the coordinates

fresh quiver
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we just need to find it lol šŸ˜‚

hard current
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allegedly per rob we know

xy
rr
1x2

are in the middle of 3 of the passwords

snow walrus
unreal jetty
fresh quiver
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no specific places

hard current
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so we’ll end up with only 3 and discarding the other 2

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I could be wrong tho

unreal jetty
unreal jetty
fresh quiver
eternal violet
unreal jetty
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Could someone link it for me please

fresh quiver
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There is a link to a TFEE Miro Board

crisp eagle
# unreal jetty Okok thank you

I can’t ever get it to work in mobile though. Just a heads up. I don’t know if it’s the same for everyone else though. Might just be my poop phone

unreal jetty
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😦

snow walrus
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wait till fully load and then try zooming

unreal jetty
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Alright I waited for like 5 mins lmao

snow walrus
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desktop mode also might help but not sure

cyan mulch
fresh quiver
cyan mulch
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That thing that fell from the building

snow walrus
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i've just tried on my phone and it loaded

crisp eagle
worn rivet
cyan mulch
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O boy I thought I had something

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Thanks anyway

unreal jetty
cyan mulch
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It does look a lot like someone just falling down

crisp eagle
dull marsh
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Trying to link a bit ISS and Alice in Wonderland, in zero-G you float around, and when Alice falls into the Rabbit hole, at least in the Disney movie, her dress does parachute and she just floats down šŸ¤”

worn rivet
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Love?

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Maybe a v in the start?

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Could you try other programs/ collors/ ways of showing?

dusk siren
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Did you guys ever solve this: 10.52, 24.71, 44.90? (Tried searching and came up with nothing, so taking a chance here.) Anyway, I was thinking RGB... which also corresponds to a hex code (cf. senidenary). According to an online RGB picker, which may not be exactly reliable, the code would be #0A182C. (Including a temperature, possibly? 182 degrees C? Searching "182" led to some interesting posts back in March '24 you guys did, some of which referenced temperatures and some of which referenced atomic orbital theory.)

* Admittedly, the decimals seem like they'd argue against RGB, though. Also, I admit I'm obsessed with the possibilities that colors give for clues and codes (other than RGB: wavelengths, frequencies, energies, etc.). Although, just off the top of my head, there was the Rob clue about zero being 'real', black being a color (RGB: 0:0:0), and Pluto affirmed as a planet (which would be the ninth planet), which purportedly features a color (ironically? black not a color? Pluto not a planet? zero not 'real' but having to be invented, despite being a 'real number'?) and since numbers seem to be involved, maybe a reference to RGB.

dull marsh
dull marsh
# dull marsh

Potentially leading to South America with a landmass of 17.84 million km2
A couple of things happened in 1784:

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  • Treaty of Paris which ends the American Revolution
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  • Bank of New York opens, first bank in New York state
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  • The phenomenon of black holes is first posited in a paper by John Michell
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  • Immanuel Kant's essay "Answering the Question: What Is Enlightenment?" is published
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  • Antoine Lavoisier pioneers quantitative chemistry
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  • Carl Friedrich Gauss pioneers the field of summation with the formula summing at the age of 7
dusk siren
dull marsh
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Well I looked at them too but didn't see any "obvious" number

South America 17.84
Africa 30.37
Oceania 8.526
Antarctica 14.2
dusk siren
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Kind of a big ask, but any suggestions on (a) how to get a clean copy of the original official art that this came from and (b) what I'd have to use and do in order to be able to extract that information the way you guys did? I think the way you guys dig into images is just awesome and clearly central to solving this thing.

dusk siren
# dull marsh Well I looked at them too but didn't see any "obvious" number ``` South America ...

One of many possibilities is that only N America, Europe, and Asia are relevant for at least one aspect of Level 3 (e.g., when you see the landing page divided into three columns, the passwords might simply break down along the lines of 3 associated with N America somehow, 3 with Europe, and 3 with Asia. This is not to say that the other continents don't have their own roles to play, but in other ways. Just that when you get three nice numbers like that, which you guys figured out were those three major landmasses, and the landing page looks like it does, I think the simplest theory is that kind of correspondence, no? (Obv, prob retreading old ground - apologies, as always. I do try to search for past posts, first, if I can find them.)

dull marsh
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Yeah haha, that's the conclusion we kinda arrived to too, and dw it's fine, might as well get up to date rather than search for stuff already solved

dull marsh
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Personally I use Photopea (basically Photoshop but free) to apply effects and look closely, and forensically (just Google it) to investigate stuff like noise and such

pure loom
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I think I might have stumbled on a breakthrough!

I searched for "Kara" (from the global coordinates finds made by @dull marsh previously #1270882064249520198 message) and "New York" and found a clothing store name Kara New York located where the old Roosevelt Field Airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Field_(airport) was.

In 1919, it was renamed in honor of President Theodore Roosevelt's son, Quentin, who was killed in air combat during World War I.

Quentin Roosevelt = unqtnoeir !!! #easter-eggs message

Roosevelt Field is a former airport, located in Westbury, Long Island, New York. Originally called the Hempstead Plains Aerodrome, or sometimes Hempstead Plains field or the Garden City Aerodrome, it was a training field (Hazelhurst Field) for the Air Service, United States Army during World War I.
In 1919, it was renamed in honor of President...

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There's another potential connection at that airport:

In James Thurber's short story "The Greatest Man in the World", Jack "Pal" Smurch, a two bit hooligan turned national hero, both departs from and returns to Roosevelt Field on his historic round-the-world flight. I can see that I'd previously looked at Jame Thurber's Wikipedia page, although I don't recall how I got to him. Maybe being a cartoonist - there might have been some link there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Thurber

James Grover Thurber (December 8, 1894 – November 2, 1961) was an American cartoonist, writer, humorist, journalist, and playwright. He was best known for his cartoons and short stories, published mainly in The New Yorker and collected in his numerous books.
Thurber was one of the most popular humorists of his time and celebrated the comic frust...

pure loom
crisp eagle
pure loom
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Roosevelt Field has a "Ring Road" around it - I wonder if that's the Apple with the circle around it on SYS$HORIZON (there's even an Apple store located there)

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Here's the Wiki entry for the shopping mall that's there now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Field_(shopping_mall)

Roosevelt Field is a shopping mall in the East Garden City section of Uniondale, New York. It is the largest shopping mall on Long Island, the second-largest in the state of New York (after Destiny USA), and the tenth-largest shopping mall in the United States.
Designed by architect I. M. Pei, Roosevelt Field Mall is managed by Simon Property G...

ruby prawn
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This is good stuff

pure loom
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Here's the Wikipedia page for Quentin Roosevelt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quentin_Roosevelt

Quentin Roosevelt (November 19, 1897 – July 14, 1918) was the youngest son of President Theodore Roosevelt and Edith Roosevelt. Inspired by his father and siblings, he joined the United States Army Air Service where he became a pursuit pilot during World War I and shot down one German aircraft. He was killed in aerial combat over France on Basti...

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He is the only child of a U.S. president to have died in combat.

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Alice Lee Roosevelt Longworth (February 12, 1884 – February 20, 1980) was an American writer and socialite. She was the eldest child of U.S. president Theodore Roosevelt and his only child with his first wife, Alice Hathaway Lee Roosevelt. Longworth led an unconventional and controversial life. Her marriage to Representative Nicholas Longworth I...

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*Quentin was engaged to Flora Payne Whitney, the elder daughter of Harry Payne Whitney and Gertrude Vanderbilt. Gertrude was a great-granddaughter of the shipping and railroad millionaire, "Commodore" Cornelius Vanderbilt. *

crisp eagle
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Freaking Vanderbilts of the Gilded Age again too

hard current
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wait

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is that simone weils connection too

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does it all just lead to new york?

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@pure loom it all just keeps pointing to new york then…

pure loom
hard current
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I wonder if sts 88 can be connected

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I wonder if there’s anything about sts88 and ny museums

rare robin
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Y’all know any Easter eggs ?

dusk siren
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If we only had / imagined a hidden "o" (possibly in one of the black spaces between the letters), you could get "no question." Would kind of connect to Vaiiya's whole thing, with the brain chip and whatnot.

EDIT: Maybe better than inventing additional letters and similar to the theories about "S Lies" where S might be an in-universe character, could "Question N" be a reference to Ichikawa Natsume, the CEO of ENGIMO? FWIW, I considered at one point a connection between ENGIMO and VAIIYA (telecoms + cybersecurity), similar to the potential connection between HOLTOW and DISSUN (see "sun insurance")

fresh quiver
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how you got to this numbers?
atleast I cant remember them

fresh quiver
worn rivet
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šŸ‡ø šŸ•Æļø šŸ‡·
šŸ•Æļø Robatama šŸ•Æļø
šŸ•Æļø šŸ•Æļø

sharp flame
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@crisp eagle Did you end up getting the Headwear

cold heart
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yeah true, does anyone have the Partybreaker (pinyata head)

sharp flame
crisp eagle
sharp flame
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okok

crisp eagle
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Coin for the win though 🫔

keen ravine
unreal jetty
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Hey can someone link the first image of this tier for me plz

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I need to see that pic because y'all were supposedly close already in October and then went south.

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Plzz link for me

unreal jetty
dull marsh
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Check the pins

unreal jetty
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Ok I am rn

dull marsh
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I don't remember seeing or hearing that

fresh quiver
fresh quiver
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@dull marsh i might have found the message. The Message is from October yes. But 2022...

unreal jetty
unreal jetty
unreal jetty
fresh quiver
snow walrus
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i remember rob saying suddenly it went south but that was for the old password

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it might be earlier than october tho not sure about that

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oh found it

fresh quiver
snow walrus
fresh quiver
sharp flame
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2022 aware

fresh quiver
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just a "bit" in the past šŸ˜‚

sharp flame
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clearly not what he meant lol

unreal jetty
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Oof lmao

fresh quiver
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Its fine. It can happen.

unreal jetty
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Bro the image is buried I can't find it

fresh quiver
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the 1st image?

unreal jetty
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I might been banned for a whole year

fresh quiver
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of L3?

unreal jetty
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For tier 3 yeah

fresh quiver
unreal jetty
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No way this sh*t again lmaoo

fresh quiver
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We got the Image after solving L2 T3. Which we think is now the 1st image of L3

gloomy anvil
unreal jetty
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Omg

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Thanks guys, I'm only using an $30 android so I don't think I'll be much help

queen rain
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Guys

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What if

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We ask rob for a hint!

fresh quiver
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we try that often when he is on twitch with some streamers.
But last clues we got are still the images & {

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We can be glad that he even helps us...

"For the next level you are on your own" -Rob