easter-eggs

[quaint wing]

I still creep from time to time to see where things are and how you guys are doing. I check out the threads and see if there's anything I can do, but it always ends up with me getting distracted. I do love seeing all the stuff you guys are finding ❤️

[shrewd fog]

it has to do with music right?!?!

[ionic orbit]

oh... did anyone even listen to the guys music on the cordinates we were given?

[fallen jasper]

Probably not? The entire hunt so far has been about eggs and space

[wicked pier]

a (non-digital) camera has a mirror inside, the first picture of the moon was done through a weird telescope like system iirc

[pure loom]

it did kinda hatch too

[plush dune]

Melody of the stars? That really weird phenomenon

[marble tree]

James webb telescope has 18 gold hexagons

[earnest wagon]

Shit, I genuinely think I might have this... It's matching up with so much stuff.

[worn flame]

Let's go chef!

[hard current]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-13997579

[opaque thistle]

my brother in christ it genuinely looks like a giant fucking GOLDENEGG

[hard forge]

now in 1 hr you will type the password without breaking a sweat.

[wicked pier]

water is also a mirror, at night, the sea reflects the stars above...................

[coarse dagger]

There's been plenty about music (and art in general) in the hunt as well

[earnest wagon]

The JWT is observing all the same stuff I've been drawing links to (although that's not too difficult given that it's doing so much).

[iron wedge]

to be fair the art was about eggs

[hard forge]

last time I was like this in Game awards 2023

[quaint stream]

Genuinely bummed I haven't been any help but I'll keep trying

[worn flame]

Just glad to have you here!

[earnest wagon]

It focuses on Infrared wavelengths.

[coarse dagger]

There's been plenty of art connections which have no direct connection to eggs. I'm not just talking about Paul Klee

[ionic orbit]

could try infraring the latin egg image 🤷‍♂️

[earnest wagon]

Wait, was Northrop mentioned!?

[fallen jasper]

Think Rockhound found a connection or something to it last year

[earnest wagon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman They made it.

[light walrus]

I feel like we're dancing around the answer constantly.
Origin/ birth of the universe
Gold
latin
and put that thang down flip it and reverse it

[fallen jasper]

Their stupid roadable aircraft

[earnest wagon]

I've done a ton of work on older tiers today, so I might be getting it confused with T3 stuff, but I've definitely written Northrop down somewhere.

[fallen jasper]

[gloomy anvil]

Just dropping this here again

[turbid tinsel]

are all the images on here?

[gloomy anvil]

yes

[turbid tinsel]

ill put it together should the password not be solved when i get out

[fallen jasper]

[earnest wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-DycJk0nbU

OYE

[pure loom]

it also produces six-pointed diffraction spikes

[hearty meteor]

but how do we incorporate latin

[light walrus]

If you back up like 10 feet from your monitor it looks like a person hunched over and looking to their left

[fallen jasper]

OYE?

[ionic orbit]

lots of stars/constellations are named in latin

[marble tree]

i dont get image perms cause i dunno how

[earnest wagon]

Open Your Eye

[hearty meteor]

host them on imgur and send a link here

[ionic orbit]

looks to be a hooded figure looking at the camera

[quaint stream]

Oh the Ab ovo is the big bang

[hard current]

I been sayin this hehe

[marble tree]

kk thanks ill be back with something relating to big bang and redshifting

[quaint stream]

And I've been asking about Klee stuff and no one is saying anything. >:C We need more orginization lol

[light walrus]

I tried a lot of iteration of big bang as passwords. Didnt try reversing it though

[marble tree]

https://imgur.com/a/NzebpKq hopefully that works

[timid cedar]

Maby someone from CNS

[nocturne sphinx]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_egg#Finnish_mythology Finnish creation myth that is very clue heavy mentions the bird that laid the creation egg as a goldeneye->james bond goldeneye-> arecibo observatory->proved that neutron stars exist and found the first binary pulsar->legacy website that is heavy on the EGG which stands for extra galactic group.https://egg.astro.cornell.edu/alfalfa/epo/egghunt.php

https://egg.astro.cornell.edu/alfalfa/index.php main site link

[marble tree]

mostly the redshift part, its a possible alternative if infared doesnt lead to anything, gathered from the webb telescope website https://webbtelescope.org/quick-facts

[timid solstice]

What’s the date?

[hard forge]

lambda is mirrored V

[ionic orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-disney-disney-ratatouille-disney’s-ratatouille-gif-6885947684231525203

[gloomy anvil]

JBB's birth date

[timid solstice]

Ah on the mirror thanks

[brisk hearth]

have we tried flipping the date on the mirror?

[iron wedge]

I feel like te answer Will be a mix of everything

[quaint stream]

5 truths but s lies?

[lapis sparrow]

what about cns and the hacks

[worn flame]

I think these might be seperate

[ionic orbit]

pretty sure S is a reference to the CEO of Ospuze

[fallen jasper]

This was supposed to be solved without needing the game

So

[gloomy anvil]

We're focusing on T3 right now

[fallen jasper]

[lapis sparrow]

is that an old one?

I’m new to this so idrk

[hard forge]

IT IS THE ONE

[silent plover]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Blueprints_of_the_James_Webb_Space_Telescope.jpg

[timid solstice]

So JBB was known for detecting pulsars
LIGO is known for detecting gravitational waves

We could focus the space truth to space detectors

[hard forge]

it was kind of eyed

[lapis sparrow]

I have a lot of ee space stuff

[rain comet]

We are getting closer to the solution

[fallen jasper]

The wrote the instructions in latin?

[hearty meteor]

what did hubble detect

[lapis sparrow]

thats JWST

[marble tree]

www.ospuze.com is a website with the finals icon but not made public yet so this may be the next step if we have a ospuze clue

[brisk hearth]

deez?

[jagged hatch]

Joe

[hearty meteor]

why the FUCK is this in latin

[lapis sparrow]

galaxies

[earnest wagon]

I suspect Rob built the telescope.

[timid cedar]

Fr!?

[lapis sparrow]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VSbWmlxl6Ke4MTbVWPCS0puCfWFdf9IJfRUQwnGXA50/edit

space ee shit

[ionic orbit]

likely what tier 3 will unlock. Ospuze's drink formula is very very suspicious and likely not what they say it is

[hearty meteor]

the mirror is called urna ut sem tincidunt

[light walrus]

Hacking Northrup Grumman to find satellite schematics is generally considered a US Gov no no

[silk flax]

We figure it out yet, been messing with my car this whole time

[ionic orbit]

you have too much faith in us

[mystic storm]

anything about the 3 nights till dawn still frame in the new video?

[marble tree]

if thats true @ me and i will make ospuze in real life and drink it

[ionic orbit]

oh word?

[brazen drift]

How’s egging been

[lapis sparrow]

I 10 tetration dog dare you to

[marble tree]

we got rob confirming "LATIN and MIRROR"

[brazen drift]

KNEW IT

[fallen jasper]

Hubble does all of it's things in Optical and Ultraviolet. JWST does Infrared.

[brazen drift]

Space Latin gold egg mirror

[marble tree]

so LATIN MIRROR GOLD EGG SPACE

[lapis sparrow]

check all reflective surfaces on the map? or is this current ee not related to in game.

[earnest wagon]

Development of the James Webb Telescope was managed by John C. Mather who received the Nobel Prize in Physics alongside George Smoot.

[timid cedar]

90% namatama egg yolk 10% shugar

[lapis sparrow]

EGG DROP it’s SCIENCY

[true iris]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_black_hole

[nocturne sphinx]

all of JWST mirrors have gold coating

[marble tree]

theyve been in pairs so space may have one (speculation)

[ionic orbit]

Yep

[lapis sparrow]

it looks like neutron stars colliding

[marble tree]

its a hangover drink lol (i mean it IS an energy drink)

[lapis sparrow]

does jwst detect neutron stars and pulsars

[opaque thistle]

red and blue?

[midnight granite]

Just found out about this channel lmao

[quaint stream]

All of this is think meat powered, no in game stuff right now

[timid cedar]

You dont know what power namatama gives you when you eat him

[lapis sparrow]

😏

[marble tree]

check light maps or see if certain items have a reflective image (some games have a reflection image instead of actually casting a reflection) THOUGH i dont think its in game EE

[gloomy anvil]

#egg-hunt-onboarding

[lapis sparrow]

mhm

[opaque thistle]

I think there is some interesting reflections actually, we've had sheoul bits show up in reflections on vegas, and had some other weird ones like the light refracting ong other maps

[hard current]

guys... no more in game stuff we don't need it hehe

[fallen jasper]

This doesn't relate to anything In game.

TFEE Level 2 can be beaten without having to know anything from the game, that includes the new lore vingette

[hearty meteor]

JUSTICE IS NOT KYNE????

[silent plover]

Please move this to off topic EE chat if you have access

[hard current]

alter ego

[jade citrus]

Kyne is CNS

[fallen jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweakin-elder-scrolls-skyrim-gif-25519944

[midnight granite]

Oh ok thanks

[hearty meteor]

i have been bamboozled

[timid solstice]

Reminding people here.
This image and name contains;

• vvv : veni vidi vici (a triplet)
• Egg
• Gold/Golden
• Latin/Roman
• Mirror
• Space (date on mirror) : Jocelyn Bell Burnell was known for detecting pulsars
• Numbers (corners) : LIGO is known for detecting gravitational waves
• Paul Klee Signature

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1198659083587297350/1198707197354447049/vvv.png?ex=65d25712&is=65bfe212&hm=535778df87e182fa0037617c0d0d4e0a14e84f3800f419ee143ed5ca9e6f904a&

[fallen jasper]

Anyway, yes. You don't need anything from in game to do this

[earnest wagon]

James Webb Telescope has four key goals:

• to search for light from the first stars and galaxies that formed in the universe after the Big Bang
• to study galaxy formation and evolution
• to understand star formation and planet formation
• to study planetary systems and the origins of life

I'm way too tired to sort this properly, but looking at my board, this links to Einstein, CBR, Ab Ovo and quite a bit more.

What it's actually capable of detecting lines up with some of what the likes of Smoot, JBB, LIGO etc. either discovered or researched and their discoveries in part aid this mission.

[south hedge]

has anyone tried scanning the bar codes on the anti cache skins

[brisk hearth]

Klees signature was also hidden in this image

[gloomy anvil]

#1199692820454322306

[true iris]

this mentions ligo a bunch

[south hedge]

👍

[lapis sparrow]

not ligma?

[true iris]

:0

[earnest wagon]

I even got my link from the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe... it's all coming together!

[lapis sparrow]

buh

I hate slow mode in this channel

[light walrus]

The JWST project lead, Dr. Mathers IIRC, worked with Smoot on the COBE project

[marble tree]

splendid.

[quaint stream]

Gonna have to remember to not over complicate things when I see this duder again. Laurels and a mirror? We would've came across latin mirrors way sooner probably

[devout merlin]

I have not been on here in a while was have we found out?

[hard forge]

I wanna sleep but what if you find the password without me!

[iron wedge]

if the password ends up being a joke like romegg im gonna kill a wall

[midnight granite]

Eggius Caesar

[earnest wagon]

#easter-eggs message Good catch!

[silent plover]

Look at the pins

[timid solstice]

We did instantly, it’s not new now

It was just eyed confirming it

[iron wedge]

dont worry i'll send you a dm telling your exactly what happened so you are up to date

[marble tree]

@opaque thistle i dont have access to off topic but yea that reflection was one i was talkig about

[quaint stream]

We found out what I saw was just a cash box vault. Might be worth looking into later but absolutely not related

[turbid tinsel]

Ligo is a latin which would be why

[iron wedge]

btw, rob told us the rgb code for purple

wasnt purple the color that Roman emperors used because it was expensive?

[midnight granite]

Does anyone know if the game art girl that keeps showing up (also the backround of tournament) has anything to do with lore or nah

[coarse dagger]

AFAIK he did not, only fire engine red

[marble tree]

yes, as well as through history Gold and purple have been seen as rich

[iron wedge]

oh right we mixed the color he gave us for the bunny hunt with blue

[brisk hearth]

Was plato ever talked about?

"One of Plato's most famous and influential concepts is the Theory of Forms. According to this theory, the physical world is a mere reflection or imperfect copy of a higher realm of perfect, unchanging forms or ideas. For example, the perfect form of a circle exists in the non-material realm, and physical circles in the world are imperfect approximations of this ideal form."

[gloomy anvil]

Rob gave us the hex value of Resene Carpe Diem earlier. Carpe diem being:

[austere palm]

Odes

[coarse dagger]

As a habit try to link Rob's messages when you mention them, and include them as a quote.

Too often people say "Rob said" XYZ, when it's something Rob never said.

[earnest wagon]

Rob kept saying we had to go deeper and use multiple images in multiple steps to get the VVV image results... JWT uses a multi-step process of image stacking to make it's **Deep **Field Image.

[coarse dagger]

This also helps newbies understand what we're talking about

[brisk hearth]

the answer is in ques-tion T_T

[earnest wagon]

My bad, I'm extremely tired but on what feels like a good thread - my hands aren't working properly either so can't type as quickly right now.

[marble tree]

see if stacking the official art hack images on top of others does any thing

[silent plover]

It’s unlikely we’ll find much more than we already have in those two pictures since they’re JPGs

[spice lark]

Anyone ever play that one game... Mirror's Edge?

[hearty meteor]

i think i’ll sleep now, my head feels like someone took a two by four and bashed it until it cracked like an egg

[sharp glacier]

I only played the kinda reboot
Mirrors Edge Catalyst

[hearty meteor]

i have namatrauma

[marble tree]

😭

[iron wedge]

Just to clarify this is where he said the red color for the bunny hunt

[quaint stream]

So does the big bang map looks like an egg and I'm noticing a nice line through it, so Im jumping into STS to see if that sky box matches that line

[timid solstice]

Ques tion

[hard forge]

good night hunter.

[unkempt dune]

Anser still seems like the best thing that connects: space, gold, egg, and latin

[quaint stream]

mirror also ^

[spice lark]

As in CE2029 is fire engine red color hex?

[iron wedge]

yup

[brisk hearth]

how?

[iron wedge]

and I think I got it but I still need to get seoul on a match

[paper scroll]

back from work, miss anything?

[iron wedge]

but enough about the rabbit lets think what connects all these 4

[iron wedge]

rob blessed us again

[marble tree]

imma take a short break, ill read stuff but unless i have a revalation ill be back in bit

[timid solstice]

#1204573219894468648

[iron wedge]

also, we are doing something rn with the chip he told us?

[spice lark]

anyone wanna hop on and do some fire engine red searching? I bet the rabbit is on one of the fire red explosive barrel boxes in hanging from the sky.

[thick hound]

any rob news

[charred otter]

has anyone figured it out if no one figures it out in the next 5 seconds im gonna lose it

[hard current]

read #1204573219894468648

[iron wedge]

you are on xbox?

[gloomy anvil]

#1197268508623515849

[quaint stream]

Cause latin mirrors? No?

[ionic orbit]

there is NO way they would dare hide them to that degree thats insane. however...

[mystic storm]

I am on, Snaggle

[quaint stream]

Interesting this is mirrored

[turbid tinsel]

were there only 3 images ?

[quaint stream]

Really strange that rome prize has a mirrored head

[jagged hatch]

Are you certain he is literally talking about a mirror and not just mirrored text? Maybe a hint that the password is in Latin and backwards

[quaint stream]

Well he mentions we do have to do image manipulation and such so it's just funny to see that medal. Not that it's anything special but it has mdcccxciv on it too so just a a shrug.

But James Webb stuff has the attention for sure

[worn flame]

James webb also won a nobel prize...

Probably already said but still..

[brisk hearth]

anser backwards is a no go :T

[valid lichen]

yes

when we getting the emoji rename??? lol

[lapis sparrow]

are there any bells on the maps? just a random thought

[turbid tinsel]

No-bell

[lapis sparrow]

😢

[gloomy anvil]

Gold + Egg + Space gives us something

We take that something and translate it into Latin (if it's not already). Then we mirror that Latin, and tada, we have the password.

🙏

[worn flame]

Nah. I dont think so. There are no bells....no bell...nobel peace prize!

[lapis sparrow]

ovum aureum

[turbid tinsel]

we keep doing gold and egg first then mirror, have we tried the opposite first?

[lapis sparrow]

muerua muvo

[thick hound]

im wondering if this has any meaning

[jagged hatch]

That's what my money is on

[thick hound]

i did the numbers per letter of the alphabet

[lapis sparrow]

JWST is to study stars no?

ad astra, latin for to the stars

what were those coordinates earlier?

[timid solstice]

We could take the Nama literally
golden mirrored and egg in Latin

nedlogmuvo

[lapis sparrow]

?

[gloomy anvil]

nedlogmuvo

[lapis sparrow]

buh

[austere palm]

Deep space Satellites use ovoid lenses and gold reflectors

[timid solstice]

#1198659083587297350 message

[brisk hearth]

man sometimes the pw prompt lags like 1 second and it looks like itl accept it T_T

[thick hound]

oo samuel barber got one of theses maybe it links to the nobel one some how ~~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulitzer_Prize_for_Music~~
i think its the rome prize that is significant

[lapis sparrow]

I wanna ping rob to ask how close we are

[timid solstice]

Don’t!

[thick hound]

DO NOT THE ROB

[lapis sparrow]

ik

[marble tree]

there was another award iirc may be stupid tho

[thick hound]

i dont see anything on wikipedia but possible its missing something

[marble tree]

ah ok then disregard

[quaint stream]

What about the northern lights and such

[thick hound]

HOHOHOHOHOO

[lapis sparrow]

auroras-> plasma-> plasma globe -> xenon

[thick hound]

Samuel Barber > Rome > Caesar maybe?

[lapis sparrow]

brutus

[brisk hearth]

what about a lead egg? opposite of a golden egg?

[worn flame]

Rome and Ceasar are already part of the Padlet

[thick hound]

i dont see the rome part?

besides still possible its a quarter clue or somethin

[austere palm]

Edwin hubble who is the namesake of the hubble deep telescope won the gold medal of the astronomical society

[thick hound]

wasnt the sundial a roman thing aswell i wonder if that has any correlation?

[worn flame]

No yeah, My bad! Its sorta lumped in with Ceasar and Latin I feel like. But yes! not officially on there!

[brisk hearth]

hey on the padlet, the carpe diem color.... doesnt that resemble iron pyrite? which is fools gold?

[timber crescent]

just wanted to pop in and add as a lurker, that Samuel Adams also wrote the Antony and Cleopatra Opera based off the Play of the same name by Sakespeare

It just a few more things that relate to the whole Rome, latin, and I believe some older mentions of shakespeare in the past

[cobalt terrace]

do you guy have found any eggs

[thick hound]

Theodosius of Bithynia is credited as the inventor of the sun dial and was alive during the byzantine empire (AKA the east roman empire)

could potentially link the space and latin themes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodosius_of_Bithynia

hi rocka

[pure loom]

I've been trying to combine a few images to find some patterns and these two produce this sort of rotatable Saturn's Rings-like pattern. I couldn't find others to add to this though.

(this was using the 'divide' screen)

[worn flame]

What if you were to mirror the top across the x axis?

[pure loom]

I'll try

[storm cliff]

any

[lapis sparrow]

what are you trying to find in the image?

[hard current]

am back

[brisk hearth]

eggs

[lapis sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/eggs-breakfast-cooking-gif-10114922192932991488

[lapis sparrow]

my perro perdió sus huevos

[thick hound]

no u were right btw he got the rome prize

[storm cliff]

ONE DAY

[thick hound]

24 hours

[lapis sparrow]

?

[marble tree]

YEA that was the one i was thinking about

[lapis sparrow]

what do you mean

[pure loom]

The patterns on the right really look like they form something, but aren't aligning with anything in the other image

[hasty anvil]

Remember the whiteboard. 5 things split to 2, 2 things become one. So gold, egg, Latin, mirror and space. 3 of those things become one, the other 2 become the other

[gloomy anvil]

If anybody can find a connection between 1149x635 and our current leads that would be awesome

[quaint stream]

Sooo hmmm

26 and 31 are missing on the roulette, I went to the James Webb gallery and put those in, and it showed up with the Reflection Nebula

[hasty anvil]

Therefore, going off the golden egg patch notes, I reckon golden egg is one of the 2 things, and Latin mirror space is the other of the 2

[quaint stream]

https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2018/14/4119-Image?itemsPerPage=100&keyword=2631

[thick hound]

have u tried the image on itself maybe?

[pure loom]

good idea!

[worn flame]

@pure loom Im trying some stuff on it too!

[true iris]

Ive been researching this most of the night https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_binary

havnt found anything though

[storm cliff]

IS THERE ANY EASTER EGGS IN THIS GAME?

[hasty anvil]

Found

[lapis sparrow]

no

[thick hound]

wait why did u delete it?

[gloomy anvil]

Never knew about this, connects to a lot

[paper scroll]

fuck mb

[gloomy anvil]

I can't try a bunch of passwords right now but I'd say give this a shot

[true iris]

yeah. Ive tried to get a code out of GW150914, but i havnt found anything. i tried roman numerals, reversing those roman numerals, and a bunch of other stuff

[hard forge]

add it to the padlet

[hard forge]

AWESOME FIND

[true iris]

thanks

[gloomy anvil]

I'm too comfy

[hard forge]

later then

[hasty anvil]

Also going off this, space was literally in the mirror, and Rob eyed ‘Latin + mirror’ , so I think Latin mirror and space all connect

[gloomy anvil]

Wig can add it I think

[hard current]

now this is how we should be thinkin;)

[thick hound]

how do you add stuff to the padlet or do u need a whitelist ?

[hasty anvil]

I’m on mobile in another country 🥲

[hard current]

you need to be added

[thick hound]

ah ok

[storm cliff]

im back]

[pure loom]

interesting result - the left-hand side has some static sections

[thick hound]

ive never used padlet

[lapis sparrow]

expand the top image and try maybe?

[hard forge]

but, did you meet Bob?

[thick hound]

like from monsters vs aliens?

[thick hound]

feel like that lines on the right could mean something ie a audio waveform or something?

[pure loom]

super tricky to get the circles to align doing this because the centre isn't visible

[pure loom]

to me it looks like if there were several of these they would maybe form a letter, or a shape of some kind

[thick hound]

maybe invert the top layer?

maybe the difference reveals a message or somethin

i would just try all the overlay effects tbh

[worn flame]

I think ive snapped

[thick hound]

ive got a idea for the image but idk how to describe it so imma just do it myself

[marble tree]

kinda looks like it says "the" like "THE FINALS"

[lapis sparrow]

…

[worn flame]

Games over. We got it!

[marble tree]

im going insane my bad

[jagged hatch]

Isn't the finals that fps game released a couple months ago? I wonder if it's related

[hasty anvil]

Just had another thought. G6 was a classification of stars clue, G6 = space. E3 was a mirrored clue. E3 = mirror. O=0 could be….

[quaint stream]

Maybe you gotta do whatever James Webb does to get pictures

[austere palm]

Infared

[quaint stream]

Well yeah but I dunno how you'd do that with Photoshop

[austere palm]

Ne meither

[worn flame]

We could try...

[quaint stream]

Besides red shifting but I'm sure you gotta do more than that

[thick hound]

the soldier image has these around im wondering if these are border to fit another image in@pure loom

[quaint stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVuonz26P0w

[thick hound]

i managed to form this but afaik its gibberish

imma see if free transforming it to fit specificall does anythin

[crisp glen]

https://tenor.com/view/genki-dama-spirit-bomb-goku-gif-12526925

[quaint stream]

You guys doing this with gimp or something. I ain't messin with photoshop lol

[lofty temple]

So both Ligo and the James Webb telescope use giant mirrors to look into deep space.

[worn flame]

PS. Only cause i have it

[lofty temple]

The James Webb mirrors are coated with gold

[worn flame]

omg. We have to point them at one another

[pulsar mason]

Did something happen in the #official-art chat? I got a notification but didn’t see anything

[quaint stream]

Well that youtube link is a guy trying to do what James Webb does so that might be worth a shot

[quaint stream]

Yeah unauthorized uploads but it's okay they're gone for now

[pulsar mason]

Okay cool, just making sure Rob didn’t drop a nasty little surprise on us

[alpine whale]

I knew it, I new that promotional was part of it

[pure loom]

I guess all the Namatamas could be aligned pretty easily because of egg

[random bramble]

I've just had an idea. Rob gave us that lil red and blue image. What if we need to overlay two pictures, one red, one blue, and then look at them through those ancient red/blue 3d glasses?

[thick hound]

has anyone got a HQ image of the uploads from earlier

[unkempt dune]

I'm thinking nothing like what has been found in previous #official-art images is hidden in the images from earlier. At the very least, nothing that compression would ruin.

[turbid tinsel]

seems like alot of work some someone when hes just throwing the asnwers at us

[marble tree]

thread https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1204573219894468648

[thick hound]

oh for some reason it closed it for me

[marble tree]

at the top

[random bramble]

I mean it may have been something we were supposed to discover way back

I'm thinking something more akin to this effect than 3D glasses: https://youtu.be/eHq-3dhDN_o?t=119

[true iris]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GW170817 This is a gravity wave that happened when two nuetron stars collided (how gold was first created), was recorded by LIGO, is a "golden merger" and is in a shell galaxy. I might be grasping at straws but its better than nothing lol

[normal holly]

i live in constant fear of a 3 headed monkey right behind me

[unkempt dune]

did anyone point out that in the holtow video, there's red, green, and blue segments, like ones from a display.. but each section of them is ordered: blue green red instead of the typical red green blue

[thick hound]

i think there is special type of display that does that i think its like microled or something like that

anyone got a HQ version of this cus i noticed this but idk if thats just artifacting

[worn flame]

@pure loom Have the rings in the images been mentioned before?

[thick hound]

i combined it with the other question mark but i dont think its important tbh

[twilit forge]

Are there any star formations seen by JWST that could correlate to any skyboxes?

[coarse dagger]

There's a trillion different ways we can combine or edit images. If you don't find anything in it then it's highly unlikely anyone else in chat will either, or even put in the effort to dive into it looking for something.

Post the images where you do find things, not the ones where you don't.

[unkempt dune]

it's also interesting that the images from today have a resolution of 1920x1080, which is typical for hd videos

all the other images from #official-art have a much larger resolution

[thick hound]

im sorry 😭 dont be mean tho

[pure loom]

I think we've seen that they existed, but not looked at combining them - I think we thought they were just a highlight/gradient as part of the art

[worn flame]

And thats what i thought too, but Rob saying to look for patterns makes me intrqigued. They all have some sort of blockiness to them...

[light walrus]

Those bands appear when using a lower quality version if the image. if you use the one straiht off the finals website they go away. I dont know why.

[thick hound]

ah just webp artifactin then

[pure loom]

yeah, there are diagonal lines running through a lot of them - we thought they looked a bit like the ZX Spectrum logo (rainbow thing)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum

[worn flame]

They dont seem like normal compression/artifacts to me.

[queen hornet]

could the ques tion images be used as a sort of filter on previous images to bring out clues we haven’t seen yet? i don’t know how you would do that but it would make a lot of sense

[pure loom]

they're pretty low quality JPGs which made us think they weren't really clue-providers like the other images

[light walrus]

I was in the shower about 30 minutes ago and had the craziest epiphany about the answer to T3...... and then i forgot it

[spice lark]

these were the images I was talking about the other day that made me think about overlapping. These are all single frames from the march closed beta trailer.

[pure loom]

Yeah, these have already been combined - they make a Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas version of Namatama - it was a hint to the LV map

[spice lark]

Ok cool

[worn flame]

@pure loom Have there been any hints inside of / worth it to check the photoshop files for some of the key art?

[coarse dagger]

Are you talking about in the Media Kit? Rob said to stop looking there.

(Trying to find the message now, it's a difficult one to find)

*Edit: nope, he said not to look in the brand guide (which is in the Media Kit)

[worn flame]

Good to know! Thank you!

[quaint stream]

So why did we stop thinking about the golden ratio?

[coarse dagger]

Here's the source:
#easter-eggs message

Yes, there is nothing in "THE FINALS - Brand Guide".

[lament juniper]

any new leads from yesterday or has the cycle continued?

[crisp glen]

check https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1204573219894468648

[lament juniper]

🫡

[crisp glen]

lots of new stuff

[urban wedge]

with the red and blue ⁠image⁠ i'm thinking we need to encrypt/decrypt an anaglyph, or run around with 3d glasses

[lament juniper]

Any connection found between odilia & Scotty?

[quaint stream]

This is more interesting now

[merry ocean]

Has anyone explored the seemingly random death damage amount from falling off the map? The number is: 32768

[silent plover]

Yeah I’m seeing a lot of search results in this channel

[merry ocean]

Ah okay

[storm cliff]

yeah ived had that

[left trench]

Always wondered. Used to be infiniity until recent

[merry ocean]

If some of the lore has to do with contestants being stuck in the game, and dying in the game isn't a way out, maybe there's some future connection to be found there. 🤷‍♂️

I remember seeing a post from rob somewhere on this discord about being "contestant'd".

[quaint stream]

@unborn pilot
VVV-WIT-08: the giant star that blinked. It was being eclipsed by something we don't know (some thought aliens and we do have aliens in the game)
Which would be the dot on Holtow's site before it got hacked which I think is what you were saying?

Man and then Tabby's Star and we have a conspirakitten

[light walrus]

Its just the lowest signed 16 bit integer
effectively "infinite" damage or the most amount of damage that can be done

[mystic storm]

Why do I feel there are weird ties together in the world like reck it Ralph? Characters seemed brought into this universe from cod, sot, rdr? Am I crazy?

[quaint stream]

and then the red moon in sky stadium

And then Au is also astronimcal units while also being gold?

[unborn pilot]

I forgot I even posted that so much happened since 😂

[quaint stream]

I am WRAPPED UP in it man. I absolutely think you're on it

[unkempt dune]

season 1 trailer video @ 1:00 shows seoul on its side and mirrored

for two frames

[quaint stream]

But nothing with mirrors besides telescopes and such

[unborn pilot]

If you can find anything with it and numbers 4,6,3,0 or letters g, e, o then it might be

[hard current]

guys.. I think mirror literally applies to the password, hence rob speaking in latin mirrored backwards

[quaint stream]

Oh okay

[random bramble]

Time to try all 4000+ passwords backwards

[hard current]

and we’re pretty certain the password will be in latin as well

[unborn pilot]

Yeah that too. Though I’ve been on mirrored for a couple days. Something with ovo or 050 as part of it most likely

[hard current]

the one thing I can’t figure out how is space supposed to factor in

[random bramble]

if you're too lazy to rewrite passwords backwards: https://www.flipyourtext.com/

[unborn pilot]

I think the other two Vs are VI and IV.

[hard current]

if we go that route

we know the password is latin
we know the password is mirrored
we know the password has to do with egg/gold/space (egg, ab ovo, the beginning?)

#easter-eggs message

if you guys want, start here and scroll back to the next time rob messages on a previous day, something said between this night and the last time he said something spooked him

[unkempt dune]

or maybe the password is one that looks the same mirrored

[quaint stream]

space in latin is locus

[unkempt dune]

rotator

would be an example

[random bramble]

God I hate when the PW page takes a sec to say please try again

[unkempt dune]

these kinds of words are called palindromes, which comes from the greek word palindromos.

[merry ocean]

Considering the last two passwords, "viold" in Latin is "inanis", which translates to "inane, foolish. vain. void, empty, hollow". Not getting much on "evivi" besides some rice lol. But also if you pull out the "vi" you get "old e" which could be "old egg", potentially relating to "ab ovo"

[gritty cloud]

maybe there's just a space in the password somewhere

has anyone tried "gold egg"

[hard current]

no spaces in the passwords:)

[gritty cloud]

welp

[unborn pilot]

Only eyeball today -> #easter-eggs message

[hard current]

i’m headed to sleep:) gn all!!

[unborn pilot]

gn

[kind cargo]

gn

[fossil valley]

Did Rob work on Mirror's Edge? References to that game?

[queen hornet]

missed this, mirrors 5th truth?? or just another clue?

[jagged hatch]

Latin
Latin is also found in the form of Lorem ipsum (which is actually not proper Latin), on glass signs in the subway.

The Latin phrase found displayed throughout; Finis Coronat Opus; literally means “the end crowns the work”, often translated as “the end justifies the means”.

[random bramble]

I had a look but I think I'm too dumb to come to any conclusions

[jagged hatch]

From the mirrors edge wiki

[opaque thistle]

Hehehe

[worn flame]

Omg! I didn’t see this earlier! That feels great! Is that considered our last truth?

[unkempt dune]

A fountain on Monaco is mirrored for 1 frame in the update 1.5.0 video @ 0:15

after going through all the videos on the youtube channel frame by frame, none of them contain a frame that have a similar distortion pattern to the ones from today's images. However, the closest one that I saw was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_-sYUHyhAw @ 1:15

[merry ocean]

If we have the "5 truths" that have been eyeballed by Rob, can someone add all of them here? We have: gold, egg, mirror, Latin, and?

[kind cargo]

space?

[opaque thistle]

actually it's "latin and mirror" now thats what the eyeball confirmation was

[merry ocean]

Assuming the combonation of the "truths" is important?

[opaque thistle]

ye

[opaque thistle]

gold, egg, space, latin and mirror. I imagine that's all of them but considering it's latin and... mirror then I almost have to wonder if there isn't an extra truth if they take up the same slot lmaoo

[shadow vapor]

Snack posted the James Webb blueprints earlier, Latin was heavily featured in the schematic.

Plus Rob giving clues to hexagons, paired with the JWT having hexagonal gold mirrors.

I think it's in there somewhere.

*The answer that is

[merry ocean]

And the mirrors on the telescope were gold....

The Webb telescope

[shadow vapor]

Exactly!

[urban wedge]

there's a mirror in game, if you use thermal vision and inspect it, it's a reflection. Might work on that diamond on Skyway or at the vegas x marker

or any points of interest, e.g. Vegas nighttime

the moon, posters, etc.

[shadow vapor]

I was thinking about trying to parse a Latin translation of James Webb, but "web"/"Webb" tapered off with no direct translation.

The Latin translation of "James" is "Iacobus" if anyone sees something there.

[urban wedge]

speaking of that, have we checked thermal vision for clues? like whiteboards and such?

[unkempt dune]

here's a quick comparison of why I say this was the closest frame to the unauthorized post from earlier: https://i.imgur.com/kDVO2C9.png

[merry ocean]

I think the password answer def has to do with james webb (JWST) as the purpose was to look back to the beginning. Before or at the time of the big bang

[unkempt dune]

none of them are 1:1, but they're close with positions and shapes

[shadow vapor]

I'm right there with you @merry ocean , I'm just not sure exactly which direction we need to follow.

[merry ocean]

There was also the number 3 going around and JWST is " three mirror anastigmat telescope"

[shadow vapor]

Did a little more translating, found "reflect" has no direct translation but "reflection" is "cogitationis".

I'd play with the number cypher, but that's far out of my wheel house.

[opaque thistle]

ohh yeahh I've used that before, haven't tried it there tho

[merry ocean]

Yeah the deciphering arena is out of my league. Leave that to the OGs of ee's

[wary birch]

I’ve ran around shooting range with thermal and was nothing maybe in certain maps

What’s up with the roses 🌹 on the park bench in the shooting range are they for an Easter egg?

[queen hornet]

so JWST has-
egg (birth of universe, ab ovo?)
Latin (schematics)
space (obvious)
mirrors (part of it)
gold (gold mirrors)

making sure im understanding this correctly

[shadow vapor]

Oh, @merry ocean you also brought up JWST looking into time before the big bang.

This level of the EE is called the question.

Maybe the question of life?

And for sure,the cyphering is far too much for me.

[merry ocean]

More info on JWST: https://webb.nasa.gov/content/observatory/ote/mirrors/index.html

[shadow vapor]

Thank you

[merry ocean]

Pretty sure

[queen hornet]

that’s gotta be it then

[urban wedge]

there's a spot in shooting range where if u use thermal mirror on a specific spot for middle building it disappears, could be just a glitch but

[merry ocean]

It's kinda in your face when looking at it plainly. At least now that a lot of the decoding of other encrypted information has been done. The fact that the schematic is in latin is the last piece that ties it all together. Besides that, if there isn't anything else about JWST that relates to latin, may not be it.

[queen hornet]

where’s that schematic image again, can’t find it

[merry ocean]

However I'm sure there is more deciphering to be done in regards to the PW itself

[merry ocean]

https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/blueprints-of-james-webb-space-telescope/

[shadow vapor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1011929497139953744/1204591409978417152/IMG_5796.jpg?ex=65d54a2c&is=65c2d52c&hm=5a888001ecc988a00942416ca20077745c59aed531f3eabe0df66c683e6122c6&

[merry ocean]

More info about the JWST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE3ZowuvAJY

[shadow vapor]

I'm just circling back to what Rob has been saying all this time.
That we have all the clues we need.

The fact that this level of the EE is called the question is really tickling something in my brain.

I've thought about maybe "before" or "after" in Latin or possibly even "time".

[merry ocean]

Trying to find the video the schematic was made for. Maybe it appears at a higher quality in the video

[silent plover]

a reminder that this is the URL endpoint for the VVV.png namatama:
"whydidntanyonefindme-aminotimportant"

[shadow vapor]

Good point, could be something JWST has been looking for or something we've missed.

[merry ocean]

How was this URL discovered? It was pulled from the image which links back to the image? With the url message being most important and that we are still missing something?

[silent plover]

#1198659083587297350 message

[merry ocean]

Ah yes, the QR lead to that. Never read the url when following the QR

[coarse dagger]

There's 2 images. VVV.jpg had a hidden QR which led to vvv.png

[queen hornet]

random silly connection but 6+6+6=18=number of mirrors on JWST

[quaint stream]

I couldn't find a thread of of this nama tama or any results

[queen hornet]

[shrewd fog]

I FIGURED IT OUT, RED AND BLUE MIXED MAKE YELLOW!

[queen hornet]

they do??

[jagged hatch]

you mean purple?

[quaint stream]

Wrong

[queen hornet]

definitely not with additive colors, how did you get this?

[silent plover]

#easter-eggs message

[shrewd fog]

oh yeah nvm my bad, blue and red def dont make ylelow

[quaint stream]

Those are axes though, this one has CANS

[queen hornet]

it’s robotama, aka our lord and savior saint rob

[merry ocean]

Nama Tama in Latin is "praenomen" meaning: an ancient Roman's first or personal name. Not sure if that means anything

[queen hornet]

been trying to translate the schematic (specifically this part pointing at the mirrors) but i have 0 latin experience and no translation is making sense

[merry ocean]

How is yours so high quality??

[austere steeple]

Could "Glitch" be a truth?

[silent plover]

i kinda doubt this means anything. I just posted it because it seemed neat

[brisk hearth]

guys....red and blue sit on opposite sides of the color wheel.... "mirror"

[silent plover]

it was a novelty blueprint NASA made for the JWST

[swift scarab]

are there more roses then the ones in practice arena?

[queen hornet]

ah, maybe that’s why the latin makes 0 sense (try translating ANY of it)

[silent plover]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1203859365610922036

[worn flame]

I think red and green are opposites.
Blue and orange would be opposites too.

[queen hornet]

i feel like we are SO close to the password with JWST but i just don’t know what part of it would be the pw

[brisk hearth]

isnt orange opposite of purple?

[merry ocean]

What would the opposing HEX code be from the purple created when adding the HEX of the blue and red together?

[worn flame]

No orange is the opposite of blue.
Blue-orange
Red-green
Yellow-purple

[merry ocean]

Yellow could still be concidered gold

[queen hornet]

id say gold is more yellow than orange, yeah

[pulsar mason]

Blurple

[worn flame]

I’d agree.

Quick idea. Are there specific photos that could go along with the 5 truth?

I know someone said that the Namatama pictures don’t need to be used anymore. But could any of the others match?

[brisk hearth]

so blue + red = purple which is opposite of gold 😛

[merry ocean]

Maybe find the "latin" that actually translates to something? If anything?

[queen hornet]

nasa is not involved in the EEH, lol

[merry ocean]

Lol, maybe time for me to step away for the night haha

[queen hornet]

before the namatrauma sets in

[shadow vapor]

I think the JWST is a heavy clue.
Maybe not inherently the answer itself.

But I feel like everywhere my leads end up is too esoteric.

JWST searching for what came before us, or seeing the egg before it cracked, so to speak.

Who knows maybe I'm cracked at this point.

[opaque thistle]

I was actually wonderin abt this nama I've seen this one before

[austere steeple]

https://www.space.com/15421-black-holes-facts-formation-discovery-sdcmp.html Section from this page: "The first black hole ever discovered was Cygnus X-1, located within the Milky Way in the constellation of Cygnus, the Swan. Astronomers saw the first signs of the black hole in 1964 when a sounding rocket detected celestial sources of X-rays according to NASA. In 1971, astronomers determined that the X-rays were coming from a bright blue star orbiting a strange dark object. It was suggested that the detected X-rays were a result of stellar material being stripped away from the bright star and "gobbled" up by the dark object — an all-consuming black hole. "

[opaque thistle]

Cygnus is also one of the same constellations we'd pulled before and is related to the swan too

[austere steeple]

Do you think black hole could be "combining" the truths?

[opaque thistle]

uHHH

[queen hornet]

not really… space, definitely, but other than that i’m not seeing it

[swift scarab]

I dont have permission to speak in the rose thread 😦

[austere steeple]

Idk it's got a gold color and it's kinda shaped like an egg?\

Maybe stretching a bit lol

[swift scarab]

Ive been trying to plant the roses and find a way to grow them

[queen hornet]

you can once you’re lvl 3 ( #🏆┇rank-check )

[swift scarab]

yee alright

[austere steeple]

two words as well? black hole

[urban wedge]

Paul Klee's notebook definitely refers to RBY instead of RGB so adding yellow to something or yellow may have a part in it

[austere steeple]

and we have two questions marks

[shadow vapor]

That's making me think about our sun it was the "egg" that allowed us to survive plus yolk colored and in space. Haha

[queen hornet]

an egg that massive could feed a universe

[shadow vapor]

Hunger no more brethren

Also, Solaris might be of some use.

[queen hornet]

what if we covered everything with egg

by that i mean overlay or combine the yellow color rob sent with previous images, or pick out only pixels with that color, anything?

[worn flame]

We could try that! Overlay just the solid color on the images?

[shadow vapor]

Clever, Rob was dropping yolk colored hex values earlier.

[quaint stream]

Had no idea Wolfmother did an album called Cosmic Egg

[queen hornet]

i’m extremely new to image editing of this sort, just any process involving the color tbh

if we do find anything, it came ‘ab ovo’ ;)

[jagged hatch]

UMM

i discovered something on wikipedia, if you go down to the references for samuel barber theres a reference to cygnus arts creative centre, which is located in egg harbor township

[shadow vapor]

I also think @quaint stream was on to something earlier with the reflection nebula.

[queen hornet]

can you link a message or something?

[quaint stream]

#easter-eggs message

[merry nimbus]

[merry ocean]

I wonder if this is the constellation that we need to find on the Vegas map?

[shadow vapor]

Sorry Link,looks like Husbandrew got you covered though.

The reason I brought it up was because "reflect" has no direct latin translation but "reflection" does.

[jagged hatch]

cygnus arts has got to be the link to samuel barber right? thats just confirming we should be looking at the cygnus constellation

[merry ocean]

Cygnus is the "northern cross" but there is a "southern cross" constellation called Crux (mirrored)

[jagged hatch]

yooo

[shadow vapor]

I don't have anything to add to the constellation theory.

But you reminded me Pixels, when I was hunting in STS last night, when you walk past the "virtually all in" casino.
Only the "vir" and "Al" are illuminated.

Reproduced multiple times on my end.

I can post to imgur if anyone thinks it's of interest.

[latent pasture]

G E L B

[vague flume]

B L A U

[fresh quiver]

color names in german ^^

[quaint stream]

I'm still trying to figure out passwords and mirrors and latin and gold and astrology stuff so no worries BUT does Rob ever just come in and happen to react to anyones random nonsense if it was techinically right or do they need to be more certain they got an answer? I've taken like 8 trains of thought today. the vvv and the blinking planet with alien stellardiscs and now wondering if this is more Orphic Egg stuff since this is the beginning of THE FINALS and seeing this Gold Orphic Tablet relating to Orpheus who wants me to have a happy afterlife.

[austere steeple]

Pulsar Glitches: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_(astronomy)

[shadow vapor]

As far as I know when we're close to an answer Rob will eyes emoji react to let us know.

But I'm right there with you, I'm running a bunch of different wires in my head, trying to parse something together.

[ancient mist]

Hi JWST dont look into time before the big bang, this is not possible. It just look at old galaxies

I am a PhD in Material Science, when i looked at burrw i directly thought about a fabry perot interferometer or deby scherrer rings, however a fourier transfor didnt help. Maybe some can overlay the pictures of the burrw gif to a single picture. I dont have so much time, since i have to focus on my real life. Whish you good luck

Concerning Paul Klee, i think the codes and easter eggs till now are not really connected to art so maybe we have to be careful with this, maybe just klee (clover) what we should get from it

[shadow vapor]

Yep, I misspoke.
Meant to say that it's trying to get pictures from the earliest temporal point of the big bang.

Should have re-typed before I hit send.

[unkempt dune]

huh, didn't know glitches were related to pulsars

[ancient mist]

"We see these galaxies as they were over 13.45 billion years ago, just between 330 and 350 million years after the Big Bang." Space.com

[shadow vapor]

Yep yep, I'm in complete agreement.

Temporally as close as we can get, post big bang.
I've just got to stop getting so smacked before I type. Haha

But your "debye scherrer rings" point is intriguing, the electron powder reference on wiki looks eerily similar to one of the photo edits I saw earlier.

[jagged hatch]

the mention of orpheus is interesting could that relate to Ovid

and his books of metamorphoses

" In Ovid's Metamorphoses, there are three people named Cygnus, all of whom are transformed into swans. Alongside Cygnus, noted above, he mentions a boy from Tempe who commits suicide when Phyllius refuses to give him a tamed bull that he demands, but is transformed into a swan and flies away. He also mentions a son of Neptune who is an invulnerable warrior in the Trojan War who is eventually defeated by Achilles, but Neptune saves him by transforming him into a swan. "

[shadow vapor]

Went to the wiki of the orphic egg and this stood out to me "The egg is often depicted with a serpent wound around it.

Phanes was believed to have been hatched from the World egg of Chronos (Time) and Ananke (Necessity) or Nyx (Night). As she created nighttime, he created daytime."

I'm especially intrigued by the fact that Phanes who was birthed by the egg, created daytime.

[cyan spruce]

Did yall figure out what the moon flashing was?

[austere steeple]

moon flashing?

[unkempt dune]

unrelated to the main hunt, in the steal the spotlight ltm, there's flashes on the moon

[austere steeple]

oh

[unkempt dune]

it's not even a confirmed easter egg or anything atm

[jagged hatch]

the final unlock of the battlepass is the black swan outfit, which references "Odilia's" legacy, odilia is the patron saint of the Alsace region of france, the traditional flag of Alsace you can find IN GAME on buildings, notably on the buildings above the doorways in the training map

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsace

[austere steeple]

Not sure if the Vela Pulsar is related in anyway, but Vela is latin meaning "sail" and currently has the most known "glitches"

[cyan spruce]

Beyond the walls, I figured moon could be part of that potentially

[austere steeple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_(constellation) "Argo Navis was one of the 48 classical constellations listed by the 2nd-century astronomer Ptolemy, and represented the ship Argo, used by Jason and the Argonauts on their quest for the Golden Fleece in Greek mythology."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_Navis#/media/File:Argo_Navis_Hevelius.jpg

[jagged hatch]

does anyone have a link to the status found in monaco?

[coarse dagger]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Monaco

[jagged hatch]

interesting connection to odilia though

[opaque thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SKLSOGtayE

odile the black swan?? from this royale ballet maybe?

seems pretty direct

[unborn pilot]

Could be nothing but “Ab Ovo” also led me back to binary stars which use the prefix “AB”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AB_Andromedae

[lucid tiger]

? on art hack. top pic
https://imgur.com/a/OgyKgsI

[jagged hatch]

theres the white swan set as well, maybe reaching but that could be mirror reference

[opaque thistle]

Yeahh could be, plus theres the whole twin swans thing, could because they're meant to be mirrored so thered be two

I've also seen saint odile/(aka saint odilia) before and noticed that her feast falls on december 14th which lines up with saint valentine's feast being on the 14th of february, and it says that the commune her statue is in "has been awarded one flower by the National Council of Towns and Villages in Bloom in the Competition of cities and villages in Bloom." which could be another connection to the roses

[velvet narwhal]

Don't we now know all the truths? I feel like we have to try A LOT of combinations now

[opaque thistle]

uhhhmmm I'm not sure but the roses don't haver to necessarily relate I was just mentioning it. I do think there's a possibility robs making us think we have all the truths though. The fact that it's latin AND mirrors makes me think it was a sneakyyyyy misdirect in the fact that it could be that the truths are Egg, Gold, Space, "Latin and Mirrors" as one truth, and stops with the last truth left unknown...

I'd like to continue thinking it's complete, but I'd still keep an eye out on the edges. I imagine rob's got stuff to guide us everywhere we can connect it but working under the assumption it's all 5 is good to help pull strings together in the meantime and keep things more focused while we work at catching another big hit on something/or put together the password but I still don't wanna disregard anything that could be a clue either

[quaint stream]

Hey that's a 3 and Rob mentioned 3 being a constant, IIRC

[velvet narwhal]

It's either that we have the 5 truths Gold, Egg, Latin, Space, Mirror and now just have to find a password that fits

OR Gold and Egg are the 2 Threads and we are STILL missing 2 Truths

[jagged hatch]

i got timed out for trying to post about a swedish version of swan lake lol

[unkempt dune]

I don't think mirror is a truth just because I don't recall mirror being of part of the other tiers of this level

[opaque thistle]

someone brought this up already and was kind of shot down with how rob had been referring to it regularly all along and we didn't really pick up on it

Also brown eye'd girl literally has a reflection of monaco in her eye

[austere steeple]

Mirror as a truth makes sense imo

[eternal violet]

Wdym, mirrors are everywhere, main clue to vitellus was to mirror the e

[jagged hatch]

the headgear of the steal the spotlight set is a mirror ball kinda

[silent plover]

#easter-eggs message

[opaque thistle]

I think it's possible the two threads could be mythology and constellations, while Gold, Egg, Space, Latin, and Mirrors (or "latin and mirrors" +1 unknown) are the truths we have.. which could also make sense if another truth is related to prize or noble/nobel honestly

[unkempt dune]

I see.. hm

[velvet narwhal]

I think gold, latin, mirror are a group and egg, space is the other group

referring to this image: #easter-eggs message

[eternal violet]

If you treat "latin and mirror" as one truth then you need to treat "gold and egg" as one too cause that's been eyed as well, but this reasoning just throws unnecessary wrenches into the solution

[unkempt dune]

Hard to refute it when it has eyes

[austere steeple]

Could the answer be stella/stellar (Latin for star)? Life cycles of stars have two paths "mirrors" and they have the shape and and color similar to a Golden Egg https://www.schoolsobservatory.org/learn/astro/stars/cycle#:~:text=The exact lifetime of a,shine for several billion years.

[wanton horizon]

So, I am very new to this side of the finals. Only stumbled upon the Easter eggs accidentally after getting curious about the qr sticker. Might have been referenced already, and might be a wild stretch, but considering the truths we have, I'll go for it. The last Imperial Faberge Easter Egg, commissioned by Czar Nicholas the 2nd, was called Constellation. Could it be anything?

It was also never completed, only two halves. Middle was never finished. Might tie in to mirrors?

[opaque thistle]

constellations are a huge part of this aswell yes thank you that actually looks like a gorgeous piece of idea to work with

[jagged hatch]

going through the search its been mentioned before but it seems they werent getting anything from rob so dropped it?

[wanton horizon]

https://wartski.com/the-imperial-constellation-egg-by-faberge/
Might be a good link to start with I hope! Happy to help

[wanton horizon]

Ah I gotcha

[weary gyro]

any eyes recently?

[coarse dagger]

This throws me off of that theory IMO, but we've been spinning in circles so long with the truths, I could be misguided:
#easter-eggs message

i still think there’s a chance the “truths” are

g = 6
e = 3
o = 0
?
?

#easter-eggs message

Those haven't been consistent through the full level.

If we don't listen to what Rob tells us then what's the point?

#easter-eggs message

You are correct, it’s been a common theme in clues, communication and hidden information for this entire level… but 0FC you have not found all of the clues and hidden messages (perhaps you found around 60-70% of all the clues provided)… but again you have all the information you need to crack this.!

[lyric goblet]

y'all have seen the holtow site by this point, right?

[silent plover]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1185727960980922488

[jagged hatch]

e = 3 being egg as one of the truths makes sense but what about the other two

golden?

g = 6

[lyric goblet]

Alright cool making sure. Anyone have a recap of everything we know so far?

[jagged hatch]

https://padlet.com/Kyne/the-promise-t3-dyra282bx402xxzy is the best recap

its a good idea to do a search of the channel before you bring something up otherwise people get cranky

[lyric goblet]

fair, also holy fuck y'all been grinding

[velvet narwhal]

This is also a good point. I feel like we have
Gold Egg as Threads
and
Latin Mirror Space as Truths

The g=6 e=3 o=0 could also be a truth called geo
Then we would only be missing 1 Truths

[cyan spruce]

I’m pretty sure rob posted eyes on the moon thing on Vegas btw… not sure why this isn’t being looked into

[dim rivet]

might be a coincidence, but "goldegg" only has 5 different letters.

[lyric goblet]

Here I was thinking Celine was a difficult ARG lmao

[vague flume]

What words we already have?

[eternal violet]

Can you link that msg?

[cyan spruce]

I don’t know how to search it up again

[velvet narwhal]

Latin can be done with numbers to roman numerals or using latin words of golden or egg

Mirror could be used by mirroring the pw horizontally or vertically
Horizontal mirror would turn the vi into a xi

Space is still a truth where i don't know how to apply it.

The geo truth is self explanatory on how to use it.

[eternal violet]

All those modifications were part of previous solutions, and I kind of like the idea that truths are strictly just the modifications

[unkempt dune]

What would be the modification for latin?

[austere steeple]

Is it possible the password could literally have a space? " " Or would they not do that.

[eternal violet]

Decimal to roman transformation

[vague flume]

it might have "_" symbol to represent space

[timid cedar]

Mirror and you get Poland my country🥹🤡

[coarse dagger]

Huh, this is a good thought as well....

If
g=6 -> gold
e=3 -> egg
o=0 -> ????

[velvet narwhal]

6 = vi; 3 = iii; etc or just using a latin word of gold or egg

[coarse dagger]

We've said null in the past, but idk if that's strong enough

[quaint stream]

So if we have all the information for tier 3 password why is Rob still reacting to things instead of enclosing the circle or at least stopping it from expanding? Just interesting

[jagged hatch]

o = 0 could refer to a space like @vague flume referred to

[coarse dagger]

Because we need help

[jagged hatch]

also space was one of the truths? could literally be a space not space itself

[coarse dagger]

We've had everything we need since the start of T3

[lyric goblet]

ophelia lol

[austere steeple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullah_(disambiguation)#:~:text=Zero%2C nulla%2C nullo%2C or,an Australian Aboriginal war club Zero, nulla, nullo, or the letter N as an unofficial Roman numeral (from the Latin word nulla, meaning "none", "nothing", or the number zero)

[velvet narwhal]

we got "goldenegg" from the launch patchnotes

I feel like we have goldenegg and apply the 5 truths on it

[unkempt dune]

I think the issue with treating truths as modifications is that you wouldn't be able to identify the answer from the truths

[eternal violet]

Wiki says no space in passwords, but _ is a nice idea

[jagged hatch]

dang it

[quaint stream]

Well that's what I'm saying like, I really can't tell if the circle has gotten smallar after discussing latin mirror holidays valentine romance northern lights rhodium yttrium stuff

[vague flume]

Wait, do we have like.. An order for this words? Like... What goest first, second, etc.

[jagged hatch]

i mentioned it earlier but rob posted the coordinates to samuel barbers childhood home, if you go to samuel barbers wiki page there is a reference to "Cygnus arts" who published a book which references Samuel Barber, cygnus arts is located in egg harbor township

[velvet narwhal]

We can only use Standard ASCII and _ is part of that. So thats a valid idea

[silent plover]

probably mirrored?

[austere steeple]

https://www.schoolsobservatory.org/learn/astro/stars/cycle#:~:text=The exact lifetime of a,shine for several billion years 5 stages of a star? 5 Truths? Maybe they align in an order?

[jagged hatch]

also the cygnus constellation was mentioned earlier but im not sure of the context

[velvet narwhal]

I once had the thought space is pretty empty
What else is empty? null
null = n?

So maybe just remove the n from goldenegg
goldeegg

[random bramble]

It's a constellation and the latin word for swan, swans lay eggs, probably the thread people were tugging on

[jagged hatch]

isnt cygnus latin for swan?

[unkempt dune]

Anser is goose

[jagged hatch]

i kinda get the feeling rob uses wikipedia to create the easter eggs so its a good place to search for things

[wanton horizon]

:Gamma Virginis is a binary star system in the constellation of Virgo. It consists of two almost identical main sequence stars at a distance of about 38 light-years"
Taken from wiki. Star sequence located in the "Faberge Egg Galaxy"
Could be correlation to "space" "mirror" "golden" and "egg"?

[velvet narwhal]

yeah wikipedia is the main source. But he doesnt use only wikipedia

[jagged hatch]

i should stop trying to metagame the easter eggs haha

[wanton horizon]

I'm so hung up on the faberge egg theory since they're literally golden Easter eggs haha

[jagged hatch]

its not a bad place to start it looks like people didnt get anywhere with it but it seems connected

[random bramble]

It's moreso that people have tried and got no eyes from Rob about Fab Eggs (I hope I'm remembering this correctly)

[quaint stream]

Now I'm just thinking of gold alloys like rose gold because yttrium is an metal alloy

[eternal violet]

"ab ovo" also ties to a swan, so that's nice

[vague flume]

idk if anybody found this but...

If you search 'Swan egg' you will get Wikipedia article about Faberge Egg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_(Fabergé_egg)#:~:text=The Swan egg is a,for her 40th wedding anniversary

[wanton horizon]

Ah I suppose it would be too on the nose

[jagged hatch]

theres a lot of swan references, also swan lake and faberge eggs being russian could be seen as a connection

[random bramble]

Yeah, think it's confirmed here that it never got eyed by R #easter-eggs message

[vague flume]

"The egg is made of mauve enamel, with gold trim."

"The Swan egg is a Fabergé egg, one in a series of fifty-two jewelled eggs made under the supervision of Peter Carl Fabergé. Commissioned in 1906 by Tsar Nicholas II, the egg was presented to the Dowager Empress Maria Feodorovna on Easter that year for her 40th wedding anniversary."

[jagged hatch]

maybe they just werent using the correct wording? I noticed when he eyed the Latin and Mirrors by @opaque thistle someone mentioned those two a few lines above him and he didnt eye it

[vague flume]

NO FUCKIING WAY

Latin here.
It's from Faberge EGG article
Egg contains GOLD
Exactly SWAN Egg contained gold and this.. metal?

ROSE-CUT DIAMONDS

[naive rover]

Damn, Sherlock, we got a lead

[vague flume]

Basically EVERYTHING is in this article

Roses
Egg
Swan
Latin
Gold

[velvet narwhal]

Roses are not part of the main EE hunt

[austere steeple]

Just putting this as a reminder.

[umbral shell]

^yea pretty sure mirror is the last truth

[limpid yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/tanjiro-scream-breath-in-anime-rage-gif-27226954

me when roses are mentioned ^^

[umbral shell]

Damn literally minutes beside leaving to work rob ignites the chat

Before*

[coarse dagger]

Did it come from space?

[unkempt dune]

so when LIGO was provided as a hint, it came along with XVII

that 17, is it really supposed to help identify LIGO?

because that's all it's been used for, which I don't think is necessary to identify it

[umbral shell]

Last time I checked in people were talking about the James Webb telescope, any update on that?

[eternal violet]

I think 17 provides connection between JBB and Ligo

[shadow vapor]

I'm still on plucking the JSWT threads.

Even tried Astratelescopia and spatiumtelescopia as passwords.

Granted I don't know the cypher.

[austere steeple]

I found the answer to all our problems lol. https://bower-studios.com/collections/mirrors/egg-mirror/

[velvet narwhal]

on the 17. August 2017 LIGO detected a collision between 2 neutron stars

[umbral shell]

Heard fam, appreciate it. Where can I find the cypher?

[unkempt dune]

what were the neutron stars

were they almost identical or something

[quaint stream]

There's a Apollo 14 fabrege egg?

[unkempt dune]

I'm just trying to understand why that date would be significant for a clue

[shadow vapor]

I'm actually not sure, as far as I know the hunters have figured out G=6 and E=3 so far.

I think they're trying to work out the "Null" variable right now.

But it's in the "Rob look here" thread.
Should be toward the bottom.

And no worries.

[velvet narwhal]

don't know. Heres the link to the event: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GW170817

[wanton horizon]

3 LIGO scientists also received the Nobel Prize in 2017

[umbral shell]

Thanks again 🫡

[umbral shell]

Was going to mention this as well, this being what connects JBB and LIGO

[shadow vapor]

Not a problem,dawg.

We're all part of the team!

[somber forge]

Anyone on the finals rn

[austere steeple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star_merger#:~:text=A neutron star merger is,and resulting in a kilonova "A neutron star merger is the stellar collision of neutron stars."

[jagged hatch]

what is the finals

[vague flume]

found only that Egg was presented on World's Fair exibition where later was The Yerkes Great refractor telescope mounted at the 1893

but probably that's nothing

[jagged hatch]

there was a reference to the astronomer olin J eggen in the patch notes could be something there

[quaint stream]

Apollo 14 Fabrege Egg, brotherman

[wanton horizon]

So, if truths can be combined, latin, mirror, and space, pretty much has to be telescope, right?

[shadow vapor]

That's where my heads at too.

Been wracking my brain trying to think of how.

[vague flume]

Maybe it has to be something with Faberge Eggs?

[quaint stream]

Doubt it but it's a space egg at least looool

[unkempt dune]

could be the name of a telescope that was used to find a golden egg in space that has a latin name 🧠 👈

[wanton horizon]

Oh my god. Space egg. Please tell me this has been mentioned before.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporating_gaseous_globule

[vague flume]

I mean

Swan - Swan Faberge Egg
Space - Apolo 14 Faberge Egg
Rose (I know it's maybe not main EE but still) - Rose Trellis Faberge Egg

[limpid yarrow]

when did swan become one of the 5 truths ?

[jagged hatch]

it didnt but its mentioned quite a bit

[velvet narwhal]

it didn't

[vague flume]

ooorrrr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_(Fabergé_egg)

It's literally called Constellation, egg by the way was never finished

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabergé_egg

[wanton horizon]

^

[unkempt dune]

the stars that merged were a binary pair, which could point to mirror

[shadow vapor]

The JWST hits the marks for Latin schematics, space, gold, and mirrors for lenses, and that big boy looks like an egg.

Plus the hexagon equation Rob dropped earlier.

Does anyone know if any of the dates Rob has referenced are significant to the James Web Scope?

[jagged hatch]

James Webb was the Nasa administrator during the apollo missions

[limpid yarrow]

i think rob didnt eye any msgs with james web in it when it was mentioned previoucly

[shadow vapor]

Nice,thanks for the heads up.

Gonna see if I can cross reference any of the manned crew flight dates to anything Rob has left behind.

[limpid yarrow]

howevre that could be about the sat not the person

[jagged hatch]

yeah just thought it was an interesting connection to the apollo faberge egg

also it uses gold coated mirrors so thats something

[limpid yarrow]

tbf constelation egg would seem like a tronger one as i think alot of hints points to them being used

[earnest wagon]

Despite making all the JWST links last night, I do have some rather meta-based reservations about it. I've got to head out for a bit, but I'll pick through my notes and add it all to my padlet of pondering later in an hour or so.

[vague flume]

Swan - Swan Faberge Egg
Space - Constellation Faberge Egg
Rose (???) - Rose Trellis Faberge Egg
Latin - ???
Gold - Hen Faberge Egg (???) (literally looks like just golden egg)
Mirror - ???

[jagged hatch]

ALSO rob posted the formula for an area of a hexagon, and the mirrors on the james webb telescope are hexagonal

[earnest wagon]

At no point has Faberge ever been eyed, and there are no clues that point to it/him directly, only tangentially.

[shadow vapor]

I completely understand your reservations @earnest wagon

Thanks for the help and digging around with us.

The Hexagon equation is definitely what still has me spinning my wheels on James Webb

[jagged hatch]

honestly coulve just been his version of a joke, maybe he was referencing that emoji haha

[shadow vapor]

Fair point, as well.
That would be pretty damn funny.

I'll keep plugging numbers into the search and see if I find anything.

[sharp glacier]

But a stop sign is an octagon

[wanton horizon]

Has Cygnus been mentioned? Swan constellation, deriving it's name from a Latinized Greek word for Swan

[jagged hatch]

😂 youre right

[umbral shell]

Yea they were talking about like a couple hours ago

[limpid yarrow]

could it be a magic hexagon we need ?

[shadow vapor]

Man I forgot about the fact that stop signs have 8 sides.

Don't smoke and EE hunt, y'all.

[earnest wagon]

The main (there's more, but given the nature of what we're dealing with it's pretty typical for there to be some accidental crossover) JWST connections I found are:

• Gold Mirrors
• Like the Nobel Prize, they're not actually solid gold, but gold-plated - JWST has a Beryllium core, NPP has Electrum
• Mirrors are hexagonal
• Early development was managed by John C. Mather, who received the NPP with George Smoot, who wrote Wrinkles in Time
• Studies all manner of things connected to other scientists / discoveries (dicey territory here because it's mission is pretty broad) - inc redshift and the expansion of the universe, big bang etc (possibly linked therefore to Ab Ovo)
• Uses a system of both stacking images and piecing together separate parts to result in a final image (like the method described to 'solve' VVV to see Klee's signature)

I'll be connecting all of this visually in a bit, but hopefully this is helpful for now.

[wanton horizon]

Rocking Horse Cluster mentioned? Open star cluster in Cygnus with two prominently gold hued stars

[shadow vapor]

So no luck plugging dates of the Manned crew flights from Apollo.

However, interesting fact, "On February 14, 1961, Webb accepted President John F. Kennedy's appointment as administrator of NASA".

And if I recall correctly the STS event is supposed to end on the 14th.

Most likely a stretch, but the date is intriguing me.

[jagged hatch]

@earnest wagon do you manage the padlet? i have somethign regarding samuel barber you might want to add

[austere steeple]

Why isn't the answer just "golden_egg" translate to latin "ovum_aureum" Put it in a Caesar Cipher and gg. "_" is for space and Eggs are symmetrical or "mirror" shaped and they're shape is used for mirrors.

You can get that from the crossword alone.

[wanton horizon]

I do not. I'm entirely new to all the Easter egg stuff

[earnest wagon]

I have access to add stuff, but I use my own (which you can see here: https://padlet.com/suitablyodd/TFEE_T3)

[umbral shell]

It was very helpful ngl

[jagged hatch]

ok thats a lot more thorough

[wanton horizon]

🤦‍♂️ sorry it's like 4am where I am. Didn't see you tag someone else

[limpid yarrow]

what about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pappus's_hexagon_theorem ?

could be we use numbers or something from abc for top cords and maybe def for the bottom

[earnest wagon]

My reservations for JWST are pretty meta. I'm sure it's not 'the answer' and I suspect might still be an accidental link due to the following:

• No clues seem to point to James Webb (the man) directly
• No clues seem to point to any of the major discoveries / images that JWST has made directly
• No clues seem to point to an aspect of JWST in a manner I can say for certain is because of a unique factor it has

I'm working on these today, but feel free to join in!

[silent plover]

maybe it's just something as simple as new sun or sunrise in latin, but written backward in the same way rob said this #easter-eggs message

#easter-eggs message
what prize? ques tion?

[quaint stream]

This is awesome and thank you for pointing these out

[silent plover]

https://guldagget.se/english/
maybe rob is just trying to be nominated for this award

[shadow vapor]

I also thought of the sun and brought up Solaris earlier.

Glad I'm not the only one making that connection.

[brisk hearth]

could the hexagons lead back to a Klee painting?

saturn also has a hexagon cloud formation on its surface

"On larger scales, the universe itself exhibits a large-scale structure that can be reminiscent of a cosmic web with interconnected hexagonal patterns. This structure emerges from the distribution of galaxies and cosmic filaments on the largest scales."

[limpid yarrow]

actually i dont think Pappus's_hexagon_theorem fits as it doesnt connect to egg or gold but does connect to latin

[eternal violet]

Nobel medal

[unkempt dune]

skyway stadium whiteboard guess https://i.imgur.com/hJbN417.png

[wanton horizon]

Too obvious connection to aesop?

[shadow vapor]

Touching on what Snack was saying a minute ago about new sun or sunrise, I'm thinking maybe "birth" the Latin translation is "Nativitas".

Crack the egg, birth the universe.

Again, I'm probably reaching.
But I'm just making guesses.

[brisk hearth]

how much have we looked at GW170817?

[shadow vapor]

I also keep seeing Aesop pop up in my searches.

I've been trying to tie the themes of greed into the clues we've seen.

[wanton horizon]

Greed seems common with the sponsors I guess?

Unless sponsors aren't tied to the ee hunt at all

[shadow vapor]

For sure, that's where my head goes immediately.

[wanton horizon]

Oh perfect

[brisk hearth]

GW170817 resides in lenticular galaxy

lenticular galaxies kind of look like a sunny side up egg

[wanton horizon]

Since you mentioned,,,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_7742

[brisk hearth]

fried egg galaxy....

[shadow vapor]

Shit, I think y'all are on to something.

[brisk hearth]

so we have egg... GW170817 produced a shit ton of gold...so we have gold, obv we have space, and LIGO is the latin connection

mirrors...i dont know

[wanton horizon]

Well, LIGO does use mirrors in its construction. Pretty important too

[brisk hearth]

well there you go...

[fresh quiver]

you may just ask here if something should get added. there are some people with access to the padlets. 🙂

[jagged hatch]

i just wanted to mention the link to the cygnus arts centre, its mentioned as a distributor for a book that mentions samuel barber, and the arts centre itself is located in egg harbor

on the samuel barber wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Barber

samuel barbers birthplace was posted by rob earlier today

[wanton horizon]

Why do I feel like we're standing right on the edge of this thing

[fresh quiver]

because we are doing that since the beginning of Tier 3 ._.

[shadow vapor]

Seriously, feels like we're yanking a serious thread here.

[brisk hearth]

welp its not ngc7742 nor is it ngcVIIDCCXLII

[wanton horizon]

This rabbit hole is deep....

[quaint stream]

I wish you guys would explain your password attempts lol

[brisk hearth]

did you not read like 5 lines above?

[wanton horizon]

Ascii is a hell of a thing

[random bramble]

Hey I noticed on your padlet that you said you don't know how burrw was found: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Diamond_Clues pretty much sums it up

[ancient mist]

The cryptoxanthin in NeverOddOrEven was already found right?

[quaint stream]

No no I mean tons of other people

[fresh quiver]

ascii rabbit hole? have fun 🙂

[earnest wagon]

Ah thanks! I completely forgot to go back and fill that in.

[wanton horizon]

Okay, so is there a connection between Samuel Barber and LIGO?

There's gotta be something with gravity or gravitational waves

[swift scarab]

Possibly a spot on a map we can only see /get to on low gravity?

[earnest wagon]

I've got some notes on Samuel Barber, but I think the main thing (there might be multiple) that stands out about him is he's noted for winning a Pulitzer - a round gold medal...

[wanton horizon]

We know LIGO discovered the first gravitational waves. This is something that Albert Einstein predicted. Albert Einstein was played Adagio for Strings at his funeral. Adagio composed by????? SAMUEL BARBER

[brisk hearth]

eintstein i think is on the padlet

[lucid tiger]

what if AB ovo means search in Level 2 - t1A / t1B, and ovo ofc looks like mirrored

and Rob said this on T1A "There are actually some clues you missed in the images released for Level 2 - T1A... some of the clues have multiple levels so they can actually help you in the future"

[austere steeple]

@proud minnow help 😭

Heading off cya guys.

[wanton horizon]

Please tell me I have something. No way Rob gives us LIGO and Barber and there's any other connection

[eternal violet]

A and B also gold themed, so with "ab ovo" we're back to the golden egg 😄

[earnest wagon]

I've a really off-the-wall idea I was brewing up on my walk back from the shop. I'll spitball it here because it might be of interest...

There's multiple, seemingly disparate parts of the puzzle that we're trying to connect through concrete details, but perhaps the connection is more thematic than it is direct?

• Multiple references to different scientists and installations that were awarded for their accomplishments
• Gold medals, closely linked to the Nobel Prize in Physics - often for discoveries made, and for the idea of being 'first'.
• The idea of a question, and an answer that needs to be found.

Is the theme discovery?

[shadow vapor]

Discovery is a good point!

I've been barking up the " great question" tree for a minute now.

[hasty anvil]

I’ve said this before too, Nobel prize of physics is the common connection (tertiary clue?), leading to discoveries/inventions theme

[random bramble]

The game's exe and pre alpha name was/is Discovery(.exe) as well

[umbral shell]

Discovery is interesting for sure

[hasty anvil]

We need to try to model our clues I think into a tree, going from the primary clues we need down to Quinary clues

[earnest wagon]

Yup, I was trying to find a link to share on that - but it's what made the idea stick a little more than it would have done otherwise.

[lucid tiger]

main theme is from beginning

[hasty anvil]

Quinary clues are gonna be the ones straight up given. LIGO, JBB, G6, Klee, so on

[random bramble]

I can't wait to read the password and how we found it when I wake up tomorrow, godspeed hunters

[umbral shell]

Inventio is discovery in Latin

[quaint stream]

Night brotherman, I hope we can make you proud

[hasty anvil]

Quarternary clues are gonna be the basic core connections. Nobel prize, pulsars, binary, space.

[earnest wagon]

I tried a bunch of passwords out, but there's a chance I missed something.

[wanton horizon]

10 of Klee's etchings were titled "Inventionen" or Inventions

[umbral shell]

We can do some brainstorming

[hasty anvil]

Latin clues have been Caesar, Roman numerals, vi=6, e=iii, Vitellius. Latin points to me as a tertiary clue

[umbral shell]

It wouldn’t be as plain text as that though, what are some digits that are of interest as of late?

[potent orchid]

Hey guys I just started doing a bunch of research on this Easter egg stuff so correct me if I’m wrong or have any info wrong or it’s already been tried, but a clue a while back rob said was that “t3 would be a walk in the park” and if you walk in the park in training you find the roses which are the only significant thing there so would if roses tie in to the code directly

[hasty anvil]

Please use discord search function

[umbral shell]

Check out the roses thread fam

[potent orchid]

Gotcha

[wanton horizon]

I might have something. But it might be going in a totally different direction

However I haven't found anything with as many hits

Castor and Pollux

[shadow vapor]

The wiki refers to them as the "Gemini" ,aka twins, aka Mirrored.

Definitely got me thinking too

[hasty anvil]

Trying to think of base clues given, without the connections (yellow are definite connections), am I missing anything?

[wanton horizon]

Twins (mirror) from Greek mythology. Said to be born from an Egg from Leda and Zeus, who was guised as a Swan. They also helped Jason and the Argonauts retrieve the Golden fleece

They literally make up the constellation of gemini

[shadow vapor]

I think you've got it locked in.

There's a few leads from earlier, but nothing I could classify as definite.

[hasty anvil]

Im trying to think base, raw image clues, 0 rabbit holes haha

[jagged hatch]

James Webb was the administrator for nasa during the Gemini programs

[shadow vapor]

Absolutely, that's a solid write up so far.

[jagged hatch]

Also Mercury and apollo if that's relevant

[shadow vapor]

Thank you, for that.

I noticed on the wiki earlier that Webb took his position at NASA on Feb 14th which coincidentally is the day the STS mode ends.

[jagged hatch]

Oh boy here we go

[shadow vapor]

Oh, I could be completely out of my mind, but with the hexagonal gold mirrors and all the dates hitting, I think we're close.

[hasty anvil]

Feb 14 Valentine’s Day too

[eternal violet]

where does o=0 and g=6 come from T3?

[hasty anvil]

We had G6 in a clue from an early image binary barcode (on padlet). This tier rob has used OFC and 0FC in his messages

[velvet narwhal]

rob often uses o and 0 interchangably

[earnest wagon]

Samuel Barber: #easter-eggs message

1. Adagio for Strings was played at Albert Einstein's funeral

Some meta analysis again, but this piece has been undoubtedly played at probably hundreds of thousands of funerals and memorial events. I've used it in my work more times than I can remember. Einstein is only singled out because of his similar notriety. I wouldn't ignore this possibility, but at this stage in the hunt any clues Rob gives should be either shoring up correct theories or giving us a clearer clue in the right direction - His Samuel Barber comment wasn't in relation to anything Einstein related, and no further Einstenian points were eyed or alluded to.

2. Wrote Horizon and at Twilight

It's the second thing that leapt out to me, but I've been pushing a celestial navigation angle for a while with nothing concrete to show for it. I've put this on the back-burner too as (putting the meta-analysis hat back on) it's not big/clear enough a clue at this point in the hunt. These pieces aren't particularly notable and any connections to the Aurora etc. that I've noted are likely coincidences.

3. Wrote Agnus Dei

This is Adagio for Strings with lyrics! Agnus Dei is in Latin, which is where the connections begin and end unless you squeeze it's translated meaning 'Lamb of God' into a connection with Ab Ovo. I'd scrap this one.

4. Won the Pulitzer Prize for Music

This is the most compelling link for me. We know 'Gold Medal' is a concept that has been eyed, and if the confusion over the original QUES + TION image dates is founded then it actually points to the day Jocelyn Bell Burnell received the CSIC medal - another round golden medal. Making this three round, gold-plated medals with direct clues pointing to them.

Conclusion:
While there's undoubtedly secondary links for the Nobel Prize awardees, the round gold medal link is the one that stands out as being the most purposeful. Given this seems to be the only link to the Pulitzer prize specifically, I suspect we're not looking for differences between the medals themselves (diameter, weight, core metal etc.) but that this is simply following the 'Rule of Three' - i.e. three clues all pointing to a single common answer.

[shadow vapor]

Yes!

I think Rob also eyed 622 in roman numerals which is the year that St. Valentine was assassinated if I recall correctly.

[hasty anvil]

My only thing about the topic of gold medals, we’ve only had links from Nobel prize, I’m surprised something like gold medal Olympians, or other sports in general, weren’t given as clues. Maybe that would’ve made it too obvious

[earnest wagon]

https://www.epsnews.eu/2015/07/csic-golden-medal-awarded-to-professor-dame-jocelyn-bell-burnell/

[dry ginkgo]

5 truths

did we end up with 5 latin words that are needed?

[hasty anvil]

True true, maybe that’s enough Quinary clues or something

[earnest wagon]

If the date from QUES+TION did point to this date, then it's technically the only clue we've actually gleaned from the original images.

Considering T2ABC only added a single clue into the mix and pointed to the rest of the tiers to get us going - we're in a similar position here, that single clue could be very important.

[velvet narwhal]

and gold and egg of course since the ? are golden and eggshell colored

[earnest wagon]

Yup, but they're both the answers from T2ABC and T2DEF so we already had them, the colours likely just point to them in the same way the naming convention for T2 did to T1.

[wanton horizon]

Please stop me if I keep circling back to stuff that doesn't matter, but the collected data that led to a complete picture of the aftermath of the gravitational waves from GW170817 was collected by the U.S. Gemini Observatory

[earnest wagon]

The counterargument to this would be that the same method could have been used, perhaps T3ABC+DEF or something, but it's messy, and why use the same method of hinting when there's a more elegant solution (and you need something to add to the image)?

[shadow vapor]

@earnest wagon
Solid write up, the conclusion got me thinking about gold circles.

The one that comes to mind is the voyager golden record.
Which included spoken greetings in 55 ancient and modern languages.

And the inspirational message "Per aspera ad astra" in Morse code.

Just a thought.

[earnest wagon]

Yeah, that seems like the closest link to me too, but it's never got eyes unfortunately.

[shadow vapor]

Fair enough, thanks for the heads up before I dove in. Haha

[earnest wagon]

It's possible it wasn't seen, but it did get discussed a bunch. It has links to pulsars, astronomical navigation etc. but there's a lack of clues pointing to other aspects of it.

[hasty anvil]

Oooooh new discovery.
Ques date: 6/11/2015
Tion date: 11/6/2015

6 and 11 are mirrored

[shadow vapor]

Yeah, that totally makes sense.

Just a thought that caught me when I read your write-up.

[civic hornet]

is this from the metadata of the images?

[earnest wagon]

Rob had a bunch of clues pointing us towards the date, and how it was meant to be formatted - I think he was trying to tell us we had missed 11th June 2015 early on.

[eternal violet]

file dates are exactly the same for me

[crystal salmon]

Formatted differently?

[hasty anvil]

Maybe when you downloaded it, but file creation is those dates

[eternal violet]

https://i.imgur.com/CedT3qz.png

[hasty anvil]

Hmm, the padlet said they were different dates

[velvet narwhal]

They are both 6/11. The padlet probably has an error

[hasty anvil]

X and Y are mirrored, I’m seeing mirrors everywhere now

[eternal violet]

the website also shows different size of images based on your screen size, well thats fun for steganography

[gloomy anvil]

The Padlet lists different interpretations of the 11/6, those being Nov 6th and June 11th

It could be made clearer

[hasty anvil]

Ohhh I see, hmmm I think that can both stay then that makes sense

[dry ginkgo]

we got NA'd as usual

0vum, aurum, yttrium, rh0dium, drac0, lig0 I imagine sp3cul0 is not needed since you have to flip the word. anything else for latin words worth mentioning?

[hasty anvil]

1149x635 Ques and Tion dimensions. 2015-11-06, times are 02:25:46 and 02:33:47.
Date and dimensions share 11 and 6 again, leaving 49 and 35

[eternal violet]

i still dont understand june 11th, the file shows format based on your pc location, doesnt matter the format the date is still one and the same

[fresh quiver]

also to mention a thing we didnt found out yet:
why does the date has a +07 as timezone. and not sweden as usual

[hasty anvil]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B07:00

[earnest wagon]

Yeah, looking back I think that's where we circled around to. JBB's award could be a coincidence.

That said, Rob is pretty proficient at finding connections that work in multiple ways, and he was pushing the date format (Days, Months, Years etc.) quite a bit.

[fresh quiver]

but could also be a hint again to "west"

[velvet narwhal]

also the dimensions 1149x635 are still a mistery

[hasty anvil]

True, it is UTC though right?

[fresh quiver]

i´m gonna cry again. UTC+7 is Date-time group G
Everything is haunting us by now 😄

[hasty anvil]

That’s definitely it

[fresh quiver]

Date-time group G is UTC+7 yup.

just doublechecked that. but it is G..

[hasty anvil]

I linked your message in Rob look here, definitely worthy. I checked too

[fresh quiver]

#easter-eggs message
here you have all times in the picture
maybe write the complete time in your message. Its easier to follow for new one

[hasty anvil]

Nice, went of the imgur for that I’ll change it

[quaint stream]

What's the arrow pointing at?

[hasty anvil]

I’m not sure we figured it out, we played around re-mirroring it but didn’t really work it out

[quaint stream]

Dang, was wondering what the intersection was gonna be

[hasty anvil]

635, 63 in ascii is ‘?’, or 3F in hex

[eternal violet]

63.5 also atomic weight of copper

[hasty anvil]

1149x635. 536x9411 mirrored

536 was nominated as ‘the worst year to be alive’ due to the volcanic winter of 536. Just interesting lol

[wheat portal]

What has changed since yesterday

[hasty anvil]

Nothing significant

[wheat portal]

Nice to know there it is still collectieve madness

[hasty anvil]

Wait… does hexagon equation just mean to use hexadecimal?

I missed that conversation I need to read the context

[quaint stream]

I was just googling that lmfao

18 hexagon mirrors

[fresh quiver]

madness?

thats insanity already

[earnest wagon]

Entirely possible, it was accompanied by other hexcodes for colours.

[velvet narwhal]

Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact... same fucking thing... over and over again expecting... shit to change... That. Is. Crazy.

[fresh quiver]

tbh. sounds like us 😂

[earnest wagon]

#easter-eggs message
These dates/times are important. They're the only 'new' clue we got when the QUES+TION images dropped (that we've found so far).

It's only ever been associated with the NYT Crossword, but I'm not sure the time was correlated with it. 2:25 didn't seem to relate to anything within the crossword itself for instance.

[velvet narwhal]

Insanity is trying to connect roses to the EE Hunt... over and over again expecting... shit to change.

[fresh quiver]

atleast we are not trying again to look if we can connect holtow to the main hunt. but yes. apparently we could do that now

[hasty anvil]

2:25 has Latin and religion connections

[wanton horizon]

What was the date on that crossword?

[civic hornet]

https://astronomynow.com/2015/11/06/looking-for-artificial-radio-signals-from-star-system-kic8462852/ found this article

[earnest wagon]

6th November 2015

[civic hornet]

Looking for artificial radio signals from star system KIC 8462852, released on 6th November 2015

[fresh quiver]

did we ever got confirmation that the crossword is right/connected? I think of now we just implied that the crossword must be connected
as the mirror date 11 june leads to JBB

[earnest wagon]

The problem is that this is the date of the article, not the date of the discovery. Given that multiple sites can report on the same thing on different days I've been ignoring publication dates unless the publication is the clue.

[hasty anvil]

He gave us the password, but idk if any answers from the crossword has been eyed before

[civic hornet]

fair

[pulsar mason]

Any major breakthroughs lately? I’ve been mia lately with work

[hasty anvil]

That might be it. He gave us the crossword for one date. Then the date mirrored gave us JBB. So both dates work and can be used as a mirror clue

[fresh quiver]

rob is getting nervous haha. It seems that he want us to find the password quick.

[quaint stream]

Just by chance BUT https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2018/14/4119-Image?news=true
Is the Relfection Nebula from the JWST, it's 2631 the missing roulette numbers combined also
And the date and time is there for when it was taken March 09, 2018 10:00AM (EST)

again just a shot

[civic hornet]

Thought Id keep looking into it anyway, and the star found is called Tabbys Star, its also called "LGM-2" – a homage to the first pulsar discovered, PSR B1919+21, which was given the nickname "LGM-1"

[quaint stream]

err not the JWST itself but the website lol

[wanton horizon]

I see Aesop popped up lmao

[quaint stream]

Ab ovo which is the beginning and then we think the JWST can see into that?

[fresh quiver]

that will be some loooooong days.
we should going back through all our clues and mirror them ;D

[pulsar mason]

Oh brilliant, I don’t blame him. I’m confident the answer is literally a form of “anser” it’s just in what form. Can’t believe we are still stuck here

[fresh quiver]

oh dont be sure about that. just look for robs latest clues...

[earnest wagon]

Rob said this: #1175202375070384208 message in #1175202375070384208

[civic hornet]

@earnest wagon Tabbys Star also has unusual light dimming, might see if the dimming lines up with the moon at all

[pulsar mason]

Oh fuck I just saw them… what on earth

[hasty anvil]

Klee was known for colour theory, + hexadecimal connection maybe

[eternal violet]

"to search for light from the first stars and galaxies that formed in the universe after the Big Bang" one of JWST goals

[fresh quiver]

my thought yesterday aswell...
Just was getting to sleep. already was in bed. Saw 1-2 of robs clues. and just thought. NOPE im gonna sleep or it will be a sleepless night again 😂

[pulsar mason]

Is the bot still working on putting eyes in a google doc

[fresh quiver]

it needs to run again as soon as something other gets eyed. they are not automatically imported.

But someone of us already put the latest things in I think

[velvet narwhal]

I have never seen such a small image. #easter-eggs message