easter-eggs

[rain raptor]

how did you get to five threes?

[outer scroll]

###...###...###...

3 ### 3 ...

its six

[hasty anvil]

Welcome! #easter-eggs message. This is our Holtow findings so far

[outer scroll]

dyscalculia hittin rn

[hasty anvil]

Did that link not work? -_-

#easter-eggs message

Discord mobile update moment

[boreal adder]

im not a ee hunter and wouldnt know where to start but the new skin for the m11 in the store had a sticker with a QR code that takes you to a website that might be linked to some sort of ee

[hasty anvil]

Look at my linked message

[opal hull]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/18xwfcj/holtow_easter_egg_deep_dive/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[buoyant nymph]

feds got to it

lmao

[boreal adder]

my bad didnt see just thought id post somthing here for yall

[buoyant nymph]

i scraped it from my other tab like a dirty dog <;3

[unborn pilot]

Guys we have been on this sticker for a past year. Please give new people the proper info Everything is here and documented

#1185727960980922488 message

[celest geode]

Yeah, after seeing the docs I realized it's much deeper than this. Anyone new just needs to read the easteregg stuff

[rain raptor]

any way we can get it like a command sort of like -egghunt?

[unborn pilot]

For the past few days this Discord has been destroyed by reposting the same things over and over and over. While no one actually reads the progrsss

[celest geode]

there's also /search

[unborn pilot]

SEARCH is a function of square space for the 2000 time

It’s not an Easter egg

[celest geode]

I figured that since the new site had it too

[unborn pilot]

Reach the finals/search.

[celest geode]

Yup

[sharp flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutile

"Rutile Rolls" is a name on Vegas I think??

[opal hull]

yea

[velvet narwhal]

probably owned by quemby rutile (the ceo of holtow)

[opal hull]

ill post some information here on that goofy qr code im not level three in this server

[celest geode]

Also, are we sure "combind" isn't just a typo by rob?

[opal hull]

this is the barcode recreated on the reciept

970629400015

what the barcode says on the reciept is 9706294000150

but that wont work on a barcode so its either 9706294000153

[celest geode]

Read https://padlet.com/Kyne

It'll actually help

[opal hull]

or 9786294000155

[celest geode]

Interesting that the philosopher's stone is brought up 🤔 Sounds like somone is an FMA fan 😂

[pastel valve]

Or Harry Potter (could be alot of things tbh)

[velvet narwhal]

Robs a smart guy and most of his messages/typos are intentional. If its a real typo he'd have edited the message or clarified that its just a typo

[celest geode]

Fair

[unborn pilot]

We already have this

[velvet narwhal]

Yes but we never added it to the holtow thread

[opal hull]

exactly

[celest geode]

Can someone explain what the five truths is? I'm a little confused. or point me to where it's documented pls

[velvet narwhal]

#easter-eggs message

[rain raptor]

there isnt anything that can confirm what the five truths is, however what seems to be the common thread is the themes of the other passwords. (correct me if im wrong, other veteran EE hunters! )

[unborn pilot]

So posting it not in a thread again will certainly help

[rain raptor]

certain ranks cant post in the threads

[velvet narwhal]

well no... but it got posted again because we forgot to add it

[timid solstice]

welcome

[unborn pilot]

Done and added

[unique spruce]

multiple things in vegas reference elements/precious stones. argon, rutile, lapis

[low lintel]

for me the 5 truths are the equals

since equal is a truth

for now we have e=3 g=6 and o=0

but maybe im too deep in my rabbit hole

I also liked the Qeumby Rutile theory which would give D=8

all letters are in Gold egg so far

and we would miss the L for the 5th truth

[unborn pilot]

2 threads and 5 truths

#easter-eggs message

[velvet narwhal]

Did we ever get any connection to Quemby Rutile in this level? If its a truth we'd have a connection to him in every tier.

[timid solstice]

right, the main site has that to but we advised not to poke around

also testing, you can make it show with this
/? at the end
https://www.holtow.com/search/?

[celest geode]

I didn't see this discord til after I read the rules for egg-hunt

I know this doesn't contribute but /?? works too

[timid solstice]

but "cart" doesnt get found anyway

[velvet narwhal]

you can put everything there (except /cart and /search) to get the blinking dot. I think its set as the 404 page

[timid solstice]

but yeah we probably have alot of info already with the name, the hex code etc of the dot

[celest geode]

Rob said that two consistencies throughout the hunt were.. I believe astronomy and something else

[rain raptor]

you also have the periodic table and latin that seems to be consistent

[celest geode]

Chemistry, Latin, Astronomy

So, T2ABC and T2DEF are related to the T3 we are on?

[velvet narwhal]

Those are also my guesses. But i am unsure how to apply them.

[celest geode]

Okay, time to backtrack and read about those

[low lintel]

I saw this one #easter-eggs message

[velvet narwhal]

The wiki is good for that

[celest geode]

-egghunt

[wet leaf]

New to the hunt?

Check out #egg-hunt-onboarding
Catch up with this great summary: https://youtu.be/XaU6Fo2utBY
Follow the ongoing progress through Padlet: https://padlet.com/Kyne
Good hunting! 🥚

[unique spruce]

art deco also present in vegas

[rain raptor]

both https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Level_Two:_THE_PROMISE and https://padlet.com/Kyne are good info for the EE

[celest geode]

🤔 Wait, wasn't there something like not being able to create gold from the philosopher's stone? - sec

[unique spruce]

art deco and lots of ornaments decorated in gold with geometric shapes/lines, like faberge eggs, are considered vintage, wonder if vintage may relate

[gloomy anvil]

I feel like we were supposed to crack this one a while ago

(I say we but I wasn't here back then)

[low lintel]

it is in the padlet, link just above your last message 🙂

[weary creek]

Hey I have since learned it is against the rules but when I first hopped on the search I looked at files related to the source code to the website and found a file that you could download that had the word healthy in it

could this be anything of importance

[sharp flame]

brother read the first part of your sentence again

[rain raptor]

just wanted to add this to what ive talked about before with the elements and about the CNS #easter-eggs message

[opal hull]

do yall think i should make a video on everything regarding holtow

[celest geode]

Almost all api endpoints return healthy

It's not related

[gloomy anvil]

(T3) I would love to poke around this more if I could figure out how to actually apply the cipher
https://theconversation.com/deciphering-the-philosophers-stone-how-we-cracked-a-400-year-old-alchemical-cipher-167900

[celest geode]

Is this in the game?

[coarse dagger]

#easter-eggs message

Yeah, don't recommend doing these URL searches. For example, /cart is just a page added by our provider that has no meaning. This hunt is about finding clues, not inspecting a website Don't let this discourage you from taking part though, deteggtive! ❤️

[rain raptor]

nope, its a zoomed in version of a image that was shared #easter-eggs message

[somber gyro]

Got it, so no point in inspecting the websites

[celest geode]

It couldn't hurt but if you read the https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1100745453206786078/1182374358862282782/RTF_EE-QuickGuide_V1.png?ex=65a960ee&is=6596ebee&hm=11291b13e36c11db976a8445721a5957d1665627a2ff15e9ece314f198b29d8f&, it says softwares that are useful

That might be better if you're going into that

[opal hull]

do i?

[daring bluff]

sure if you want to

[opal hull]

im going to make it mostly based on the reddit post

[celest geode]

Go for it, free views and clicks

[opal hull]

true that

[rain raptor]

i know we've talked about "combind" being a typo and also that rob never leaves typos without editing them afterwards, and i just looked at that hamlet post again he seems to also write "actully" and not "actually", same with "trough"? #easter-eggs message

[somber gyro]

Did anyone try to overlay the 2 question mark images? Seems like they don't align

[gloomy anvil]

Yes there have been some more, I noticed one or two reading the wiki as well

Did we ever get far with the 'golden clues'?

Ohh, and then there are there are 8 “golden clues” so far in total that leads directly to the final tier of Level 2 - The Promise.

oh never mind

[rain raptor]

i think there was a post about the last level not having anything to do with ingame ee

#easter-eggs message

[acoustic canyon]

the clues ingame or not necessary for this tier but they can still help us

[velvet narwhal]

#easter-eggs message

[unborn pilot]

That’s not fully correct. The white board in game was used to solve the last tier and still holds clues. We also know we missed a lot of stuff that was in the game for the last year

We have everything we need to solve it but some hints are still laying around. It’s more likely new stuff in Vegas is tied to next level since it’s the newest map

[sour kernel]

Spotted an oddity. In the Mausoleum Medley skin pack I noticed the Rare Spray is the letters "R.I.P." and the name of the spray seems a bit on the nose. It's called "CR.I.P.TIC. TRIBUTE" I wrote it as it appears and noticed (besides the obvious use of the word cryptic) that the letter have periods in odd places suggesting it's actually an abbreviation for 4 different words. Definitely stuck out as something I should make you geniuses aware of.

[celest geode]

Why is the create date for the white ? xmp:CreateDate2015-11-06T02:25:46+07:00</xmp:CreateDate>

and the modify date is xmp:ModifyDate2023-09-22T12:35:46+02:00</xmp:ModifyDate>

[unborn pilot]

There’s also different time zones and the other ? has one date different

[celest geode]

Let me check

[unborn pilot]

BOTH
Created @ 2015:11:06 02:25:46+07:00
Saved @ 2015:11:06 02:33:47+07:00

QUES
Saved @ 2023:09:22 12:31:12+02:00

TION
Saved @ 2023-09-22 12:35:46+02:00

BOTH -> +02:00 STHLM time
Created @ 2015:11:05 21:25:46+02:00
Saved @ 2015:11:05 21:33:47+02:00

[celest geode]

Interesting

[velvet narwhal]

Yes, I think everything that was already available in the open beta is part of this level.

[unborn pilot]

The saved ones are very interesting. 12:31:12 repeated the 12 and 12:35:46 almost looks like 123456

[unborn pilot]

It could be nothing but since Rob added / kept the Photoshop Layer name and stuff, this date section feels edited on purpose indeed

[celest geode]

XMP doesn't usually scramble the date to many years prior, multiple times

So it's def. intended, but does that mean it's related

[fresh quiver]

i just took the difference between both dates what i put into this here 12:04:34

[celest geode]

Wasthe gif's name on holtow used at all in any previous challenges? I think it was like 5.15.2015. I hate relaying back to this but if these dates are 2015

maybe 2015 is significant

[unborn pilot]

No clue, but 2015 appeared before. 12/31/12 is the 366th day of the year and egg is 366. I’ve gone down a few rabbit holes

[celest geode]

interesting

[velvet narwhal]

The name was 5.15.25

[rain raptor]

you have some info in the pinned comment #easter-eggs message but other than that i have no clue :/

[celest geode]

My bad

0.0801

The difference between the creation and save for both ? files

It's a coincidence. They're both the same 0.0801 difference 🤔

[gaunt agate]

2015

Like Monaco 2015 😎

[celest geode]

Wish I had access to type in #1185727960980922488, but upon closer inspection on the site I found an svg sized to 0px, 0px with the path below. 🤔 Why is it there
d=M0,0.5 A0.5 0.5, 0 0 1, 1 0.5 M1,0.5 A0.5 0.5, 0 0 1, 0 0.5 Z

Trying to find a way to get that svg resized to see if it is anything

[unborn pilot]

That’s a circle mask svg. It’s what makes the square gif appear as a circle

[celest geode]

Yeah

Alright, time to look at something else.. That's a rabbit hole for sure 😂

Has anyone here read Ophelia (Hamlet)?

[gloomy anvil]

why do you ask? Ophelia has in fact been relevant to this tier

[rain pivot]

Nice

[celest geode]

Because there are five acts in Hamlet and I was just exploring to see if anyone has looked more into it

Act 5: Denouement

Ophelia is given lines from ballads such as "Walsingham" to sing, and, according to the first quarto edition, enters Act IV Scene 5 with a lute, singing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walsingham_(music)

I can't read sheet music but here's this

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/John_Bull_-_Walsingham_(Fitzwilliam_Virginal_Book_no_1).png

Don't know if it's related

[gloomy anvil]

I'm not sure how familiar you are with Hamlet's involvement this tier since you joined today, it would help to have an idea

[crisp glen]

guys guys guys... fire engine red? I wonder if you can start an ee with this

[celest geode]

I have not. Is there a specific starting point I can look at in the wiki?

Is it crucial for me to review everything since the first clue and all solves

[gloomy anvil]

Rob teased Hamlet last month and eventually gave us the answer to it, that being the 'Five Truths', he explains it better in his message.

That's not to say Hamlet is over, I've got no idea if there's more to be found in there

For the wiki, it's best to read through each subtier on the level 2 page. If you don't have the time, it's quickest to read the Summary sections that explain the relevancy of the main clues.
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Level_Two:_THE_PROMISE

enjoy the hunt

[celest geode]

🫡 I'll be back

[velvet narwhal]

I don't think its over, rob still sometimes quotes Hamlet.

[fallen jasper]

I will say the summaries were written by me and Smashel. Smashel has a better general grasp of the EE hunt than I do now, but it might still be a little inaccurate.

[rich dock]

dunno if this has already been checked, but there’s a ton of text scroll in the credits and i don’t think i saw anything super easter egg-y while watching it but i wouldn’t really know what to look for lol

[celest geode]

Is that on the wiki? Also thanks for everything :)

[sharp flame]

you might be onto something, actually

Fire Extinguishers, Red Barrels, anything of that sort

but yeah Fire Prevention systems

Rob did 👀 for Fire-Engine Red

[gloomy anvil]

it's been a month since this message

[crisp glen]

riiiight? im thinking theres some way to activate the fire system

[hard forge]

We have figured out the latin part tho.

[somber gyro]

I'm thinking 5 Truths - Gold, Egg, Chemistry, Latin, Numeric Representations

[hard forge]

I never glanced at it.
Thankyou.

[mighty flame]

dont know if it is relevant, but this barcode is not valid. This kind of barcode uses a checkdigit at the end, for it to be valid, the last number would have to be a 3 instead of a 0

[somber gyro]

What if the 2 question marks are 2 elements that need to be combined in an alchemical formula

[crisp glen]

if you read a little after that msg this was discussed

[mighty flame]

kk, sry

didnt see

i saw it at the thread, and didnt read main

[hard forge]

yeah. sure do it if you want Based on reddit, official discord or both. Just give credits in the video of who said what ,where when.

[hard forge]

there are threads here. I would have linked it for you I was not on mobile.

[hard forge]

1. Welcome and good find. I have to check it out. I am not aware of it because it was way before when I joined.

2. We are hive mind.

Damn. The new recruits of hunters give me hope. (Maybe also to SR).

Can we have a list/thread about some peculiar and promising finds so it doesn't get lost in this huge chat.

like for such information #easter-eggs message

#easter-eggs message

So much leads get lost. Only for someone else to do it again..
I wish there was a dashboard or some casual leads which looks promising or could be something and we are not sure if it belongs in the padlets

[somber gyro]

*Descriptions of the philosopher's stone are numerous and various.[24] According to alchemical texts, the stone of the philosophers came in two varieties, prepared by an almost identical method: **white **(for the purpose of making silver), and **red *(for the purpose of making gold), the white stone being a less matured version of the red stone.

[crisp glen]

id love to explore my lead more, I just hate how hard it is to get, and then explore specific maps

so im going to wait for custom games I guess

[somber gyro]

I've tried playing around with these hexes to construct a password, but no luck so far:
ffd700 - Gold hex
ce2029 - Fire engine red hex
f0ead6 - Eggshell hex

[hard forge]

gold from the image or standard?

[somber gyro]

Standard, might try the ones from the image

[unique spruce]

CR.I.P.TIC 315.9.13.1793

[gloomy anvil]

Bringing up something that hasn't been mentioned in a month or two

The background of Tfee_ques.jpg is not complete black, it's #060606. Unfortunately the background of Tfee_tion.jpg is all over the place, so less likely to mean anything.

[somber gyro]

Nope, no luck with hexes from the golden "?" image. Replacing the standard eggshell hex with hexes from the white "?" does not work either.

[celest geode]

5.15.25 - Boron (10.811), Phosphorus (30.973762), Manganese (54.938045) (name of gif converted to the elements of the periodic table). Just in case there was a relation.

[hard forge]

interesting

[somber gyro]

philosophers' egg, noun
1: the first matter of the philosophers' stone composed of salt, sulfur, and mercury
2: a medicine made of saffron and the yolk of an egg and once considered a cure for plague and poison

^ Still going in the direction of T2ABC "?" + T2DEF "?" = T3

[hard forge]

Something from the meatspace.

[gloomy anvil]

Not just yellow

(not very relevant anymore)

[hard forge]

where did you get this from?

[fresh quiver]

so they may be using a x-y coordinate system inside the periodic system of elements as a key?

[gloomy anvil]

It's from T1F https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/TFEE_T1F

first time I've found a link to gold in the DEF subtiers I think

[somber gyro]

In this case, "five" might be key to replacing S with 5 in some of the passwords that we try for T3

[celest geode]

Saffron ->
Etymology
Further information: History of saffron
A degree of uncertainty surrounds the origin of the English word "saffron". It might stem from the 12th-century Old French term safran, which comes from the Latin word safranum, from the Arabic (زَعْفَرَان, za'farān),[12] which comes from the Persian word zarparān (زرپران) meaning "gold strung" (implying either the** golden stamens **of the flower or the golden color it creates when used as flavor).[13]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron

[somber gyro]

Nice! We sure are digging deep down this rabbit hole of yolk + saffron :D

[celest geode]

In Hamlet refering to poison from the philosophers stone description
Hamlet, feigning madness, accuses Claudius of the murder of his father (Hamlet: C'est lui qui versait le poison! – "He's the one who poured the poison!").

I was wondering if Thomas was mentioned but not Norton. Because I was going down the rabbit hole of Thomas Hampson, but I found nothing appealing

[hard forge]

Rob's message on T1A.

Egg refference

[gloomy anvil]

there's a small egg inclusion in T1B too

[hard forge]

Thanks to Raid we can now say egg and gold truths are definitely true for all Tiers.

[somber gyro]

I wonder if we can link this to gold...

[hard forge]

I think this has been explore.

When I found out about Norton, I checked discord messages and saw there was a discussion on another Thomas.

I would have linked it, but I am on the phone.

[acoustic canyon]

it might be a stretch but saffron is a shade of yellow, which comes from the same old english word as gold, being "Geolu"

[hard forge]

autumn crocus.

saffron flower.

Am I imagining this or did we see a similar flower in the clues.

https://cdn.britannica.com/25/203625-050-64EDAEEE/Saffron-crocus-bloom-stigmas-flower-saffron-spice.jpg

"each corm produces only one or two flowers, and each flower produces only three stigmas."

[gloomy anvil]

this one?

[celest geode]

Looks close to saffron

Pretty much looks like it

[somber gyro]

It is close, it's missing the red seeds

[celest geode]

Probably can't see from this angle

[hard forge]

i think there was a flower discussion too.

Someone on pc or old hunters please help!

[gloomy anvil]

others speculated it as these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viola_odorata

[somber gyro]

Ah, they are called "stigma" not seeds 😅 https://www.usasta.org/copy-of-world-production

[hard forge]

i saw the flower I was referring to in padlets

[somber gyro]

This looks a bit closer to it

[hard forge]

and each flower produces only 3!

[celest geode]

V. odorata may be the species mentioned in Shakespeare's famous lines:

"I know a bank where the wild thyme blows,
Where oxlips and the nodding violet grows,
Quite over-canopied with luscious woodbine,
With sweet musk-roses and with eglantine"[23]

Either way -> Pointing to Shakespeare

[hard forge]

Man you know a lot about Shakespeare.

[celest geode]

No, it was just on the wiki 😂

[gloomy anvil]

The violet flower was a favorite in ancient Greece and became the symbol of Athens.

Greek symbols spelling the name "Abderus" were hidden on the stock of the AKM.

(relating to T1C)

I've been looking for more Greek connections on each tier in case it's a common theme

[celest geode]

VIOLET, SWEET
Greek : Ion
Species : Viola odorata
Description : A small perennial with sweet-scented, violet-coloured flowers.
Sacred to : Apollon (perhaps)
Myth 1 : Birth of Iamos. Iamos was a son of Apollon and the nymph Euadne. He was abandoned by his mother at birth. She left him lying in the Arkadian wilds on a bed of violets where he was fed honey by serpents. Eventually he was discovered by passing shepherds who named him Iamos after the violet (ion) bed. (Source: Pindar)
Myth 2 : Bouquet of Persephone The goddess Persephone and her companion Nymphs were gathering rose, crocus, violet, iris, lily and larkspur blooms in a springtime meadow when she was abducted by the god Haides. (Source: Homeric Hymns)
https://www.theoi.com/Flora2.html

🤔

[somber gyro]

This has been mentioned in padlets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_sibirica

[hard forge]

Thankyou

And where did it linked too?

[gloomy anvil]

also certainly similar

[celest geode]

I found this article -> https://www.fieldmuseum.org/blog/how-hunt-philosophers-stone-led-phosphorus
When looking at the 5.15.25 (15 = Phosphorus on the periodic table)

[somber gyro]

Seems it got linked to Iris (mythology) and Iris (human eye) then to Illuminati lol

[celest geode]

Well, didn't we see that image of an eye close up?

Sec let me find it

[hard forge]

yes it has been discussed and

possible relation to devil namatama

because in Latin phosphorus is known as Lucifer

[hard forge]

from a flower to illuminati. lol

[celest geode]

Hate to side-track but when looking for the eye photo, I see this red dot under her nose
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/TFEE_T2ABC#/media/File:THE_FINALS_Screenshot_015_3840x2160_F.jpg

Could be light reflection, idk

[hard forge]

lighting

[celest geode]

Yeah

[gloomy anvil]

when you mentioned an eye picture I thought you were going to link this one

[celest geode]

There was another one I think

[hard forge]

me too lol

ok back to 5 truths

and combind them

[celest geode]

Nvm I think I'm going too far off

Okay so let's lay out the 5 truths, what do we have

[hard forge]

#easter-eggs message

[median crag]

What’s up with the red dot holtow website that the QR leads to?

[hard forge]

see pinned message

[celest geode]

#1185727960980922488

[gloomy anvil]

Gold
Egg
Latin
Numbers/Numerics
??

this is as far as I'm semi-confident with

I want to say Greek, but not enough evidence

[celest geode]

Chemistry / Periodic Table seems to be consistent

[somber gyro]

Gold, Egg, maybe (Alchemy, Latin, Numeric Representations)

[hard forge]

rob said not to go into Greek holes

[gloomy anvil]

Rob confirmed that Latin has been a theme in every tier

[hard forge]

And we proved it

[celest geode]

Hamlet = Ophelia = 5 truths, so my assumption is Ophelia has a relation?

[median crag]

Ty

[celest geode]

What does "Hamlet = Ophelia = 5 truths" mean if somone can break it down

[hard forge]

no , we got 5 truths from Ophelia. nothing to look into it more

[gloomy anvil]

from Rob's message it sounded like Ophelia was just intended to reach Five Truths, now we've got there

I'm not entirely confident on the Hamlet stuff

but that's where we are

[celest geode]

I'm confused. Did Ophelia have five truths in the play? How did we get 5 truths from Ophelia?

[gloomy anvil]

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/theatreblog/2011/jul/21/five-truths-katie-mitchell-v-a

[celest geode]

ty

[simple thistle]

New to the Easter egg community what can y’all teach me? Send me down a rabbit hole

[hard forge]

Welcome!!!

Yes!

[celest geode]

Maybe let's not just look at physical items, but reactions or feelings too

[simple thistle]

-egghunt

[wet leaf]

New to the hunt?

Check out #egg-hunt-onboarding
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Good hunting! 🥚

[hard forge]

#egg-hunt-onboarding message

[simple thistle]

Damn I didn’t know the finals wa s built like that, just thought it was a great shooter

[celest geode]

So I'm guessing we now know we need 5 truths

[simple thistle]

I live Easter eggs in games

[hard current]

there are 5 things that have been true through this entire level, “combind” them and you have the answer

[low lintel]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Level_Two:_THE_PROMISE

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfveK-QScK3a7dr9LxGxIuFiw89nhoUxJvbfwCkMgXU/edit#gid=411951774

https://padlet.com/Kyne

[hard forge]

And also go through the TFEE wiki!!

[gloomy anvil]

combining these:

gold + egg = goldenegg (backed up by patch notes and question mark images)

• chemistry = substitute some letters for element, e.g. atomic numbers?
• latin + numerics = substituting numbers to roman numeral equivalents

Idk I'm tired

[low lintel]

space was also in a lot of theme

[simple thistle]

Omg i love this, can’t wait to go home and dive in

[low lintel]

couldnt find a space link to T1B and T1E

but rob said we didnt find all the clues too

[hard forge]

i am sure this is at least 70% correct

[hard forge]

looks like we know what we are doing today raid

[low lintel]

nevermind, appart from the meteor that hit the church on monaco, i cant find a link to T1A

[hard forge]

i think the meteor is good enough space connection

[celest geode]

Are there any references to "goose"?. I'm just thinking of Golden Goose Egg

[low lintel]

T1C > Luna 3

[hard forge]

Aesop fable? lol we wish

[low lintel]

T1A > meteor hitting church of monaco
T1B> ?
T1C > Luna 3
T1D > Copernicus / Saturn
T1E> ?
T1F > Proxima Centauri
T2ABC > ETA Cassiopeiae
T2DEF > same as T2ABC ?

[celest geode]

The Goose & the Golden Egg https://read.gov/aesop/091.html

[shadow shore]

Has there been many leads on things to check out in-game/certain maps, or has it mainly been finding the clues in the images?

[low lintel]

there was a whiteboard that was found in the game

it is in the padlet

[shadow shore]

cool i'll check it out, cheers!

[acoustic canyon]

he said that we didnt need things in the game but they might be useful as hints

[gloomy anvil]

in case you're wondering this is how applying that literally turns out

G O L D E Ne G G

G Oxygen L D E Neon G G

G 8 L D E 10 G G

gviiildexgg

needless to say not the password lol

[celest geode]

What about 6's for e's, or was it the g's

that's been common

[low lintel]

G was 6

[gloomy anvil]

6viiild3x66

[low lintel]

E was 3

[acoustic canyon]

g=6=vi

[gloomy anvil]

viviiildiiixvivi

at that point it's getting overly complicated

at least compared to the last 2 passwords

[celest geode]

There's another level past this one right?

[acoustic canyon]

yeah

[gloomy anvil]

yes, level 3

[acoustic canyon]

thats where most of the ingame clues will be used

[hard forge]

found the 1E space clue.

your space friend!

[unborn pilot]

5 levels total I believe

[summer grove]

I don't understand

[low lintel]

mmh, is it ?

in the other levels, it was a direct reference to space

[celest geode]

🙈 so much wiki reading

[summer grove]

😂

[hard forge]

i have installed the app now.

[celest geode]

I think I've spent like 5 hours sitting on this chair just reading and reading and going down wiki holes

🙈 FOR THE KRUSTY KRABBB!

[low lintel]

got my first negghtmare yesterday

[timid solstice]

In game thing to find;

WR: 2/5
Graffiti: 2/5
Lore messages: 1/10
CB2 Trailer Clues: 0/6
In Game EE's: 1/XXX

#easter-eggs message

[hard forge]

future sponsor?

[timid solstice]

DISCOVERY TECHNOLOGIES

is the gun makers right?

[unborn pilot]

That’s the original name right?

[hard forge]

even you knew it would happen lol.

[celest geode]

It is

[timid solstice]

hmm isnt the guns DISCOVERY CORP

[celest geode]

Yes

That was the name before "The Finals"

[unborn pilot]

Working title

[timid solstice]

Project Discovery yep

[unborn pilot]

But who knows maybe it makes a comeback even more

[hard forge]

welcome back experienced hunters!

[unborn pilot]

Sounds like a sponsor/company name

[somber gyro]

Imagine if the password is something related to Hamlet's "To (2) be or not to (2) be, that is the question"

[celest geode]

Who writes the wiki

I see some bolded letters here and there

[acoustic canyon]

rob did make a to be or not to be reference

[acoustic canyon]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1191470530180685895

[somber gyro]

Interesting...

[timid solstice]

its a community wiki

[celest geode]

Okay, thanks

[hard forge]

Flex I have updates for you.

[timid solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/who-me-gif-14906421967915870271

[hard forge]

We found egg relation in T1A,B
And gold relationvin T1E

so we are pretty much sure.

That Latin, Gold, Egg, and Space are 4 of 5 truths

And about the combind thing

let me link you some messages

#easter-eggs message

#easter-eggs message

[celest geode]

"The leetspeak cipher and the Roman numeral cipher were also present in the previous tiers." -Wiki https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/TFEE_T2ABC

[hard forge]

roman numerals are latin numerals

[timid solstice]

@sharp flame did we ever work out what this meant?
iris sibirica to mendeleev ?

[low lintel]

it is russian 😄

[timid solstice]

I remender this but never search it, seems must likely

Mendeleev: birth town in Siberia
Iris Sibirica: Siberian iris series

[mighty crag]

Man its so hard to keep up with this, i try and read everything but new clues have come up haha

[celest geode]

I'm wondering if the 5.15.25.gif will change like the LOADING gif did 🤔

[gloomy anvil]

I was skimming discussion on this tier, apparently the 680384 engraved on the gun in THE_FINALS_Promo_ISEULT_Candy_4.png is indigo in HEX, this is the only color missing from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, and the same/similar color to the flowers.

That's how I'm currently interpreting the flower inclusion.

The main clues were the Luna 3 far side of the moon mission and album cover of Pink Floyd’s Dark side of the moon

T1C

[timid solstice]

was space mentioned when he was saying "AND..."

[low lintel]

no, I only remember Latin and ...

• ofc gold and egg

[acoustic canyon]

#easter-eggs message this got eyed

[low lintel]

so it means space is in it, or could he eyed it for the other words only ?

[hard forge]

why would he eye the same words twice?

[gloomy anvil]

I feel like I've stumbled upon a historical event that hasn't happened yet

[hard forge]

Holy hell

[low lintel]

what would the last be then ? Botanic ?

T1A > Aethusa Cynapium

Iris siberian

[hard forge]

#easter-eggs message

[timid solstice]

#easter-eggs message

it was mentioned

[low lintel]

I thought you meant eyed, and snowzy mentionned a message where it was in it anyway #easter-eggs message

[celest geode]

EG

wait

I overlayed them and was messing with settings

[timid solstice]

looking back non of it was eyed but some replied to saying "and?"

[celest geode]

I'm finding some letters I think

[hasty anvil]

Hamlet quote was in response to 15

#easter-eggs message

[hard forge]

and he rechecked the password for himself #easter-eggs message

I assume he thought we already got it and he put the wrong password in the back-end.

[low lintel]

EG, like in EGG 😄 what a surprise lol

[hard forge]

you are going crazy. 🫂

[celest geode]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[low lintel]

though I wasnt here before, so not sure if it was discovered already

[timid solstice]

make sure to use the full res

[cyan zinc]

would a egg repaired with kintsugi be considered a "golden egg"

[timid solstice]

no reaction to that before

[hard forge]

We all agree on at least:

Gold
Egg
Latin

Right?

[somber gyro]

Yep

[hard forge]

that was eyes

[timid solstice]

need sleep, good luck everyone new and old, and remember to keep trying passwords!
(if you want your attempts added to the thread ask a rising star level)
https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1175206999802249307

[low lintel]

yes

and the rest could be space, botanic, art ?

art like : architecture, music (pink floyd and sonate)

[timid solstice]

where there are 2 common threads and 5 truths,
I think the gold and egg are the threads

what links every password on this level...? what are two common threads that are consistent throughout every single tier on this level...?

[low lintel]

music ?

[hard forge]

but we did find references to egg in T1A, 1B

and references to gold in T1E.

[pulsar mason]

Read through 600 messages since I was asleep to find everyone going in circles and 5 mentions of the holtow sticker. Business as usual lmao

[low lintel]

oO

[hard forge]

Most accurate comment of the day.

[timid solstice]

what are two common threads that are consistent throughout every single tier on this level...?
hmm good point

[low lintel]

but maybe the 5 truths are more, how do we come to Egg and gold

like :

• history/mythology
• space
• art
• geography

something like that

[hard forge]

dates

[somber gyro]

Don't forget Chemistry/Alchemy

[low lintel]

• botanics

science

nah we are already above 5 😄

[pulsar mason]

We need to figure out what constitutes a truth, I’m not convinced that truths are common themes there’s just too many

[hard forge]

i just got more confused.

what you quoted seems like the definition of truth to me.

[somber gyro]

Maybe we should think more like a direct link to already solved passwords

[low lintel]

well, at one point I really believed that the truth were all the hints we found with equal

o=0, e=3, g=6, then missing 2

[celest geode]

29EG - me searching this image for any possible clue of letters and numbers 😭

[hard forge]

#easter-eggs message

#easter-eggs message

I want everyone to pay attention to this

[gloomy anvil]

To me, Latin and numerics fit this definition better, but Gold and Egg still seem like the threads

[low lintel]

#easter-eggs message

[somber gyro]

1064 - melting point of gold - Alchemy/Chemistry
lxxix - atomic number of gold, latin numerals - Alchemy/Chemistry + Latin
5f137s2 - Mendelevium - Alchemy/Chemistry
0vif0rm - egg-shaped in Latin - Latin + Numerics (1337)
cacoiii - CaCO3 seen in egg-shells - Alchemy/Chemistry + Latin
vit3llum - Vitellum, egg yolk in Latin -** Latin + Numerics (1337)**
viold - gold, 6old, viold -** Latin + Numerics (1337)**
evivi - egg, e66, evivi - Latin + Numerics (1337)

[unborn pilot]

I mentioned that earlier too.

2 common threads: in every single tier this level.
5 truths: true through entire level. So not necessarily need to be in every single tier.

[hard forge]

#easter-eggs message
what links every password on this level...? what are two common threads that are consistent throughout every single tier on this level...?

#easter-eggs message
Five Truths... there are five things that have been true trough this entire level... combind them and you have the password...

[gloomy anvil]

I can't pull up the image right now but the whiteboard seems to clearly represent the 2 threads and 5 truths

[unborn pilot]

79 is the atomic number of gold.

[low lintel]

#easter-eggs message

[celest geode]

.

[somber gyro]

Thanks!

[hard forge]

This just strengthen the GoldenEgg Theory.

Passphrase is GOLDENEGG (backed by patch notes and 2 threads)

Passcode/key/cypher are the combination of 5 truths which are right in front of us already.

[unborn pilot]

Good summary.

[hard forge]

check the melting point of gold in Kelvin .. it's 1337.15

[somber gyro]

What about eggs? 😆

[hard forge]

again back to g e o we go. 😭

[hard current]

rob checking out the holtow thread….

[unborn pilot]

we mentioned g, e, o stuff as truths so many times and I don’t think a single one was eyeballed

[somber gyro]

Sadly it's not violdiiiniiivivi or 60ld3n366 lol

[hard forge]

Hey now, we are in the presence of SR. Cheer up little.

[unborn pilot]

Either the truths are Gold+egg+latin+?+?

Or it’s just Latin+4 more and gold+egg are the threads

[hard forge]

That narrows it down

I wish it be the first one

[unborn pilot]

Maybe periodic table is another truth

[celest geode]

That’s what I’m thinking because it’s constantly used in level 2

[hard forge]

it was also hanging in their office soo

it is

[celest geode]

Why don’t we substitute the atomic value of gold instead of using Latin for gold

[kindred saddle]

Could Leet (1337) be another one?

[celest geode]

That was also used at one point, I believe in level 2

But I don’t know if it was used a lot

[hard forge]

1064en366

[unborn pilot]

We mentioned it a lot but it was never eyeballed. Though it’s definitely being used in the passwords

[kindred saddle]

For 0vif0rm vit3llum viold and evivi

[celest geode]

10643n3vivi

o = 0

vi01d3vivi

[unborn pilot]

We haven’t used it yet but we had clues saying 79 = O as well

[celest geode]

79 is the atomic number for gold right?

What was 1064 then

[low lintel]

#easter-eggs message

[velvet narwhal]

Melting point in C

[celest geode]

793n3vivi

793vivi but that’s too simple

[hard forge]

Have we exhausted our eyeballs for T3?

[celest geode]

Yes

[velvet narwhal]

Could be... or we are very wrong/dumb

[celest geode]

We aren’t bringing anything new to the table. We have the padlet but aren’t really referencing it

We mention 5 but is that just how we spell goldegg? I have a feeling it’s more than just substitution

[timid solstice]

We might get a little help from namatama

[hard forge]

this is new tho.

[hard forge]

[celest geode]

🙏

[plain parcel]

Golden Namatama rotating on youtube

[hard current]

hm?

[plain parcel]

video of golden namatama on youtube

[hard forge]

🔗

[plain parcel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6X_Qy-PKrc

[celest geode]

Who made

[hard current]

that’s not part of the hunt

[celest geode]

🤣

[plain parcel]

I know ahah , just for laught 1 minute

[hard forge]

no peaking in my smooth brain please!

but fr I thought Embark dropped a new hint for us. Don't do that again.

[celest geode]

🙏 pws

Namatama

[hard forge]

our goldenegg

[kindred saddle]

the thing that fks me up is that embark said that t3 would be a walk in the park

[hard forge]

Rob. Saint Rob said that.

[kindred saddle]

Yessir mb

[pulsar mason]

Shakespeare in the Park?

[hasty anvil]

Any good progress made today?

[velvet narwhal]

This 'walk in the park' is probably a walk through the Northeast Greenland National Park (biggest park in the world)

[low lintel]

well, we know that there are 2 common threads and 5 truths

😂

[velvet narwhal]

So not really

[hasty anvil]

So back in last month's circle haha

[low lintel]

rob left a message here #1185727960980922488 message

[kindred saddle]

Don't forget the meteor shower event

[low lintel]

but not more than that

[hard forge]

#easter-eggs message

[hasty anvil]

i saw you found gold and egg in each tier

which makes me think threads

but truths errrr

[hard forge]

progress but backwards

[hard current]

hey @unborn pilot wanna have your brother run that eye emoji script soon

rob was on the holtow chat

I wonder if he maybe snuck an emoji somewhere

[hard forge]

And the search for the truth continues.

[hasty anvil]

Was thinking earlier, atoms relate to all tiers except T1F

[hard forge]

Well if you think about atoms make up everything.

[hasty anvil]

just have to find the latin atoms now

[hard forge]

i m sorry.😔

[restive comet]

found japanese(?) characters in a room on monaco 2014 during a game, no clue if its been debunked or anything, just joining the discussion

it wwas 3 of tehm vertically

[velvet narwhal]

Do you have an image?

[restive comet]

i tried to ill look again soon

its on some sort of power box on teh wawll

[kindred saddle]

I was thinking about the strange A used by rob

[somber gyro]

Btw guys in the patch notes where we have found the bold letters constructing GOLDENEGG I'm missing one extra E, so the anagram GOLDEN EGG would not be possible without the extra E. Am I too tired and missing the second bold "e"? 🤔

[hasty anvil]

Å
Here is the first one of the three extra vowels in Swedish. You can think of the Å as the ‘au’ sound in (British accent) ‘Paul’. Indeed, some Swedish Pauls actually spell their names Pål.
#1185727960980922488 message

Rob's A in his last message

[hard forge]

you mean this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185727960980922488/1193318179678732358/The_Finals_Screenshot_2024.01.06_-_17.08.01.85.png?ex=65ac4728&is=6599d228&hm=ad91a92b3e3587f3d5fb23c91124183e45a9cc4a2504b0f7b83f8057510bfbd7&

[kindred saddle]

if you check it up theres a system to measure atomic and molecular distances which is the Ångström

[restive comet]

think so

[restive comet]

yea i think so

not sure if its the same location

[hard forge]

#1185727960980922488 message

[crisp glen]

google lens translates to "fire well"

theres probably a better translation

[restive comet]

is it debunked yet or no?

[hard current]

it can’t be pressed as it stands afaik

[hard forge]

Xikari found it hours ago

[restive comet]

oh perfect

[crisp glen]

yeah I havent looked too deep into it but I think it could be a good lead on the holtow ee

[hard forge]

yes you missed one

[somber gyro]

Ah okay, then it's all good

[velvet narwhal]

One should maybe check if theres a interact prompt if you're very close to it.

[hard forge]

any leads on it?

[crisp glen]

it IS kinda weird that thats in Japanese and the rest of the map is in Korean (I think)

[hard current]

Au = gold

pronounced "Au"

[hasty anvil]

Å is pronounced au

[hard forge]

interesting

[hasty anvil]

if name is Paul, some swedish people have the name pÅl

from what i briefly saw on internet dont hold me to that

[hard current]

... has me questioning if there is something in there that could help us on this level

[hard forge]

i understood that. But..

[hard current]

perchance there are still things in game that may help us then?

[hard forge]

why would rob give us gold

[hard forge]

hmm

[hard current]

think about this way, Rob made a gold reference when talking about that receipt

gold has been part of this level

[hasty anvil]

Holtow bundle was in CB, so was the whiteboards, so there's potential

[hard current]

which has me thinking, there may be things in that receipt that are important

it may not lead to the answer for this tier

but could maybe help us with new themes/truths?

not sure exactly

[shadow shore]

was their mention of a "thread" by any chance anywhere?

[restive comet]

might there be multiple of those power boxes that spell a sentence out?

just an idea

it would make the words fire well have a meaning

[hard forge]

The first image had fire right?

the burning man with revolver

[somber gyro]

From Holtow GIF's filename 5.15.2015 could it be something related to gold prices at that time?

Oh wait it was 25 not 2015

[hasty anvil]

Is there an image of the entire receipt?

[crisp glen]

r.cades pic is the best quality we have

[hasty anvil]

okay good

[crisp glen]

I dont think theres anything above that picture

[velvet narwhal]

I think the 'au' is just a explanation for english speakers to understand how the å sounds.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Å

Historically, the å derives from the Old Norse long /aː/ vowel (spelled with the letter á), but over time, it developed into an [ɔː] sound in most Scandinavian language varieties (in Swedish and Norwegian, it has eventually reached the pronunciation [oː]).

[hasty anvil]

want to make sure there's nothing missing at the top of it

[crisp glen]

just the playername it prints when you get a kill

[kindred saddle]

Even the number 9 706294 000150 is always the same dunno if it could help us find anything new

[hard forge]

All I could figure out was it's EAN 13

[crisp glen]

its an invalid EAN 13

it should be 9 706294 000153

+3

[velvet narwhal]

anyway its getting pretty late over here. Good luck in hunt!

[somber gyro]

Same for me guys, I'm hitting the bed

I feel like we're getting close

Will catch up tomorrow!

[hard forge]

what's thread in Latin?

[shadow shore]

filum

according to translate, but now it's telling me filum is 'wire'

[low lintel]

isnt thread in english also the 'wire' to build clothing ?

in french, everything is "fil"

so it would make sense for that part

[kindred saddle]

Same for italian. We use "Filo" for both

[low lintel]

anyway, im out too, see you guys

[celest geode]

wish ios had that

[fresh quiver]

The timer or the statistic? U can do both in ios

[celest geode]

Timer on apps

[raven spruce]

Shrek smurf

[hard forge]

wrong chat

[pulsar mason]

#🥚┇off-topic

Focus on Easter Eggs please

[shadow shore]

I have a clear photo of a receipt if it's still needed

[crisp glen]

is there anything above the player name? if not then no

[tough viper]

what does the red dot mean when you search holtow.com

[crisp glen]

#easter-eggs message

[shadow shore]

Holtow
Liability Insurance

---

that's basically all I can see

[restive comet]

so what more do we need now

or whats still unknown

[unborn pilot]

@restive comet We should be able to solve this tier with info already there. We just need to figure out the final password here https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfee-level2

[spice lark]

What info is already there? @unborn pilot

[unborn pilot]

A lot. Check out https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/THE_FINALS_Easter_Egg_Hunt

[acoustic canyon]

i feel kind of stupid for not asking earlier, but has anyone looked into dragons? seems like they fill most of the themes

[daring bluff]

found Rob’s alt

[pulsar mason]

Oh?

[unique spruce]

the very start of this EE involved us decoding 2 words, devon and crossing, and combining them into reachthefinals.com/devoncrossing. have we tried that with viold evivi?

well i guess any words we come up with would go straight into the password page not some other url

[outer scroll]

why has rob not been on in SO long? is this a weirdly long amount of time?

[unborn pilot]

He wrote 3 hrs ago. #1185727960980922488 message

[daring bluff]

@hard current you missed the joke

listen to the MTM episode with Rob

[outer scroll]

we knew 2029 was important, I have been trying to hammer that home.

@shut onyx you might have been right about the sticker and the numbers leading to books of roman history and those green vans.

[spice lark]

Can anyone get better close ups of Xikari's photo from the sticker hunt?

[outer scroll]

I've also been trying to say that the punctuation being used by rob and the twitter account is very peculiar and we need to take note of it.

[spice lark]

Also, I think the one image which had the symbol of saturn on the ear was a possible connection reference to the Yamaha YMF292 aka a Saturn Custom Sound Processor.

[hard current]

checkout the diamond clues, that is in fact a reference

[spice lark]

I think Titan might have also been referneced in one image somewhere... that may be reference to the Sega Titan-V

[unique spruce]

how about combining both leetspeak + roman numerals into our gold egg? v10ld 3v1v1

[pulsar mason]

Did it work?

[unique spruce]

not that one specifically

but i think im starting to see 'combine the truths' differently

not simply combining words

[spice lark]

yeah i thought this was a 3v3v3 game

[unborn pilot]

Good thinking. Simple but hasn’t been tried.

[pulsar mason]

I like this idea

[unborn pilot]

it would be odd to go back to gold egg from viold evivi. It does feel like it should continue from there

[unique spruce]

so heres something wild about that thought

violdenevivi > v10ld3n3v1v1 > v10ldiiiniiivivi

eh idk

nm

[unborn pilot]

Haha. 😂

[unique spruce]

since i in leet is 1

[unborn pilot]

I feel the same way when I have ideas

[unique spruce]

the 1 ends up just going back to i

[unborn pilot]

Well L is also 1

[unique spruce]

is it? a few converter sites dont turn it into 1

[unborn pilot]

Google 1337.

[unique spruce]

oh duh lol

[unborn pilot]

And then of course 1064 c is 1337 k in gold melting funny enough

We haven’t had clues to say we should use 1 or I or L though. So idk if that matters

I is definitely 1 though too

But in Roman and leet stuff

[unique spruce]

still frustrates me we didnt need to swap o to 0 for cacoiii but whatever

a to 4 either

[unborn pilot]

Don’t. Every tier only use 1 thing

[unique spruce]

i see

[unborn pilot]

Nothing used twice except vi (both same tier technically)

Which leads me to think the next tier might only have 1 thing changed

[unique spruce]

in ancient times gold developed a red tint to it

[unborn pilot]

But that boggles my mind even more lol

[unique spruce]

greeks and romans always described it as red

[unborn pilot]

on the hue spectrum white, yellow, gold, red, all connect

Like the sun can appear very reddish or bright gold

These 5s turned out to be S and the 1 was a /

At least for the first part of it

Rest hasn’t been solved

[spice lark]

What current hints do we have for T3?

[shut onyx]

Oh, ok. But why? Some guy from there, explained me, that "numbers", doesnt meant anything, its just some random numbers

[outer scroll]

well rob kinda just said otherwise.

[shut onyx]

Im sorry, but, who`s rob?

[outer scroll]

head honcho who gives us hints

[shut onyx]

Oh, k

What does he say?

[outer scroll]

i just got k’d in 2024.

i can’t answer that. you just violated me.

[shut onyx]

🤔🤔

[shut onyx]

What abt the leaf?

[outer scroll]

the nissan leaf? not the best car but if YOU like it THAT much, go ahead.

[green lake]

I'm finally here

[marsh dagger]

what if its an actual cypher that was used for it

sure looks like it with the numbers but i dont know about the ? mark

[sharp flame]

Iris Sibirica, also known as the "Siberian Flag"

[gloomy anvil]

I can post the whiteboard image by itself, but when I attach a big summary message to it, it no go

[rancid rapids]

This should be all we need for T3 right?

2 threads, 5 truths (whiteboard diagram)

what links every password on this level...? what are two common threads that are consistent throughout every single tier on this level...?

Five Truths... there are five things that have been true trough this entire level... combind them and you have the password...

Threads / truths Rob has specifically eyed:

• Gold
• Egg
• Latin
• Space (?)

Threads / truths we're still speculating on:

• Numbers
• Chemistry
• Alchemy
• Space

also... no eye reacts since December 16th. I feel like this password is supposed to be really simple

[rancid rapids]

(got caught in automod for using # )

[gloomy anvil]

ohh thank you

here's the whiteboard related to the message

[hard forge]

Threads are consistent throughout all tiers.

So pretty much GOLD and EGG.

[bold merlin]

from the holtow sticker hunt thread, any new connections come to mind with Å? it's not the first time we see this

[gloomy anvil]

Expanding on this, here's every single common / popular themes and truths from every tier:
(that I could find)

T1A

• Gold
• Egg
• Roman / Latin
• Greek
• Space
• Chemistry / Alchemy
• Years / Time
• Numbers
  T1B
• Gold
• Egg
• Roman / Latin
• Years / Time
• Numbers
  T1C
• Gold
• Space
• Chemistry / Alchemy
• Years / Time
• Numbers

T1D

• Egg
• Roman / Latin
• Space
• Numbers
  T1E
• Gold (somewhat)
• Egg
• Roman / Latin
• Greek
• Space
• Chemistry / Alchemy
• Numbers
  T1F
• Gold
• Egg
• Roman / Latin
• Space
• Years / Time
• Numbers

T2ABC

• Gold
• Roman / Latin
• Space
• Numbers
  T2DEF
• Egg
• Roman / Latin
• Numbers

sorry for the giant message

[pulsar mason]

Pronounced Au, it’s the third letter of the Chamorro Alphabet in Latin script

It also appears in many other European languages and first used in print in the Gustav Vasa Bible that was published in 1541

It’s also used as the international symbol for a unit of length known as the ångström, equal to 10^-10 m (one ten-billionth of a meter) or 0.1 nm.

They usually use an Å to measure the size of atoms. Maybe the password has something to do with the size of gold in Ås

[pulsar mason]

Also note that the atomic symbol for gold is Au

[gloomy anvil]

Has Holtow been linked to Level 2 at all before? or have they been totally separate so far?

[pulsar mason]

Gold is 1.44 Å in size

[rain raptor]

any correlation to this? from this post by rob #easter-eggs message

[pulsar mason]

Maybe we add up the Ås of each element crossed? Or just the PTE (potentially toxic elements)?

PTEs are arsenic (As), cadmiun (Cd), chromium (Cr), copper (Cu), fluoride (F), lead (Pb), mercury (Hg), molybdenum (Mo), nickel (Ni), selenium (Se) and zinc (Zn)

[rain raptor]

can the crossed out elements combine into an "alloy/compound"?

[pulsar mason]

Negative

[storm leaf]

it seems like there aren't any compounds that combine any of those four elements (using this resource https://ptable.com/#Compounds)

[rain raptor]

what about these being used for something?

[pulsar mason]

Tantalum has an Å of 1.46

Cesium = 2.65 Å
Lanthanum = 1.87 Å
Gold = 1.44 Å
Xenon = 1.08 Å (maybe?)

[storm leaf]

theres a lot of conflicting radii for xenon

[tranquil valve]

My bad but what is Å in this context

[storm leaf]

@tranquil valve

[storm leaf]

it also doesnt help that there are multiple types of atomic radii like calculated, empirical, covalent, and van der waals radius, but i would assume the covalent radius to be the default

[bold merlin]

yeah, this is as far as I've gotten on the holtow thread

[gloomy anvil]

I can't tell if holtow has anything to do with level 2 / T3

[tranquil valve]

Im guessing it is more related to next level and maybe something within the site may change after T3 completion, the main clues for T3 should probably be mostly in the OB content (if its something ingame)

[gloomy anvil]

there have been a few 666 references scattered around this hunt, afaik never amounting to much

[green lake]

You guys also got this charm???

[gloomy anvil]

wdym?

[hard forge]

#1177374733969408090 message

[gloomy anvil]

you get this at career level 30

[hard forge]

#easter-eggs message

This message contains 2 passwords I know of.(T1C, T1E)

Could contain every password of this level.

[unique spruce]

The six elements of life are Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Phosphorus, and Sulfur. These elements are the six most common elements found in biomolecules or biological macromolecules. Biomolecules are large, organic molecules that are critical to living things. In relation to gold egg, could this be a link towards egg of life, tree of life, fruit of life?

And carbon is the 6th element

Enceladus has all 6

One of Saturns moons and it is the 6th largest. Discovered by William Herschel who also discovered infrared radiation, using a prism to shine light through (pink floyd album cover again)

The period 6 transition metals are lanthanum (La), hafnium (Hf), tantalum (Ta), tungsten (W), rhenium (Re), osmium (Os), iridium (Ir), platinum (Pt), gold (Au), and mercury (Hg).

Known as CHNOPS

[celest geode]

5.15.25, (from the holtow site.gif name), when added together equals Rhodium (45). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodium
Standard atomic weight Ar°(Rh) 102.90549±0.00002

Electrons per shell: 2, 8, 18, 16, 1
Rhodium (Greek rhodon (ῥόδον) meaning "rose") was discovered in 1803 by William Hyde Wollaston

I thought it was worth looking into. But if we break it down to the individual for 5, 15, 25.. we get the following elements.
5.15.25 - Boron (10.811), Phosphorus (30.973762), Manganese (54.938045)

A thought?
I brought this up because you mentioned Phosphorus. Maybe the answer is the missing elements that we haven't been given that makeup the Philosopher's stone?

[potent ferry]

https://www.holtow.com/ qr code from the new holtow pack stiker

[hard forge]

check pinned message for more info.

[jovial isle]

Funny, there's a page called /cart on this website, looks like you'll be able to do some shopping...

[fallow agate]

Finals merch?

[jovial isle]

More like Holtow specific merch I'd say

[fallow agate]

Sad

[jovial isle]

I mean, it's The Finals related so that is Finals merch, technically

[jade citrus]

that's a default URL for squarespace websites

[green lake]

On the Finals site you also can find /cart section. So maybe Finals merch))

[jovial isle]

Ah, I'm dissapointed then

[drowsy forge]

Any EE in this game?

[velvet narwhal]

yes we have already found some, but no major ones. We currently try to solve a password outside of the game to get to the next level. The next level is probably more ingame.

[fresh quiver]

-egghunt

[velvet narwhal]

bot dead?

on https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1100745453206786078 is more information on the egg hunt if you wanna join us

[drowsy forge]

Sounds fun, I might give it a try to see what I can find

[gloomy anvil]

can rob start reacting with angry eyes when we post something incorrect

just so we know he's watching

(not srs)

[celest geode]

xd

[fallow agate]

What was the follow up on all those numbers we had?

[tribal prawn]

The rock salt on the desk could be something

[gloomy anvil]

I believe it tied into the solution for T1E

[tribal prawn]

i was about to say theres a LOT of crystal references

[fallow agate]

What if robs just big into astrology

[tribal prawn]

if you google 3 aco you find this on wiki which is similar to part of the molecule on the window in the pic . O-Acetylpsilocin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-Acetylpsilocin

[main sequoia]

maybe

[celest geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011929497139953744/1106236741037338634/IMG_CDIV.png?ex=65a93f3f&is=6596ca3f&hm=3508c9f51c9536c0b002c8bd1dc3d1c50b868980dadade0c6c4e2d719a1e0785& When have we used this

At what extent did we use the periodic table with the x's in that image

[buoyant nymph]

Lots in that pic

c,a,3,o are missing from the keyboard.
Not sure what PTE = CNS is going for

made me giggle but specifically the photoshopped signature might be relevant

[celest geode]

PTE also could mean P (Phosphorus) 15, 30.974
TE (Tellurium) - 52 (chemically related to selenium and sulfur) 127.60

[celest geode]

The six elements of life are Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Phosphorus, and Sulfur.

[buoyant nymph]

Anything from g=6 tying with that navigating of y=6

[celest geode]

Pointing to N, or In (N (Nitrogen) 7, 14.007 OR In (Indium) 49, 114.82)

[buoyant nymph]

I'm still waiting to get jumpscared by an oversized golden paperclip

[celest geode]

Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Phosphorus, and Sulfur. When looking at the image of the molecule on the wall, that's what I got from this

From my friend

C36N4O4 structure

O, N are given so that leaves Hydrogen and Carbon

[tribal prawn]

Look up the structure of oxytocin kinda similar to what they have on the window

[fallen jasper]

That isn't actually photoshopped

[buoyant nymph]

That's some phone contrast if I've ever beheld it

This vaguely lockheed martin style A is super relevant for something I drew recently and I don't remember where I put it

Rip

[celest geode]

PTE

P (Phosphorus) 15, 30.974
TE (Tellurium) - 52 (chemically related to selenium and sulfur) 127.60

XE (Xenon) 54, 131.29
CS (Caesium) 55, 132.91
La (Lanthanum) 57, 138.91
Au (Gold) 79, 196.97
Hs (Hassium) 108, 269

N (Nitrogen) 7, 14.007 OR In (Indium) 49, 114.82

PTEXECSLAAUHS
PTEXECSAUHSLA

X = S

PTESECSLAAUHS
PTESECSAUHSLA

🤔

[buoyant nymph]

Caesar~style cypher for a dinosaur is my guess

[celest geode]

My friend said they believe H is 34

[celest geode]

Carbon and Hydrogen are now done. Which means ideally we've been given all of the periodic table elements for basic human life

UNLESS

I'm substituting TE for Sulfur, maybe the missing piece is S, unless X = S instead of X = 5

[tribal prawn]

any way the 3 aco from the keyboard factors into this?

[velvet narwhal]

pls refrain from using 👀 reactions. rob uses it to verify theories.

thx

[buoyant nymph]

i can use it to summon rob? awesome

[celest geode]

5 over 6 down is either Th or Pa

[buoyant nymph]

just kidding don't shoot me

[celest geode]

Thorium 90, 232.04 or Protactinium 91, 231.04

From left to right, top down, when observing the periodic table
PTEXECSLAAUHSPA
PTEXECSAUHSLAPA

[tribal prawn]

Time to play word scramble i guess

[celest geode]

thinking

[tribal prawn]

Applesauce xH

[celest geode]

Wait, if P = C, T = N, E = S. That's Carbon, Nitrogen, Sulfur

Which leaves Phosphorous which we found from a correlation the binary in game

[celest geode]

Other elements could be

from the .gif

The six elements of life are Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Phosphorus, and Sulfur.

😭 rabbit hole

maybe maybe not

[low terrace]

so uhhh anyone scan the HOLTOW sticker 👀 somethings coming

[celest geode]

Yes #1185727960980922488

[unique spruce]

Open your eyes > open your Is > ii = V?

[celest geode]

🤔

[tribal prawn]

I you unscramble PTEXECSAUHSLAPA you can get Scatheless as a 10 letter word with some leftovers. SCOTTY got out of the arena unscathed. hmmm

[low terrace]

thank you for sharing this!

[celest geode]

Where are you referencing this from

[unique spruce]

Holtow site gif - 5.15.25 - EYE - OYE - open your eyes

[velvet narwhal]

#easter-eggs message We believe OYE means Open your eyes

[buoyant nymph]

ora!

[somber gyro]

Btw guys take a look at this golden egg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabergé_egg
Not sure if related, but still :D

[buoyant nymph]

"Virtually all were manufactured under the supervision of "

[celest geode]

Could be interpreted as giving life

[buoyant nymph]

The most pawsibly deniable sentence ever written would begin with

[gloomy anvil]

If you're interested in CNS https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/CNS

[buoyant nymph]

well if we're talking nervous systems there's gotta be something related to eyes screaming for ice cream

just sayin

[tribal prawn]

P=C | T=N | E=S ??https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/File:CNS_pt.png

[buoyant nymph]

13 letter diff from c to p, 6 from n to T, 14 from s to E

there's no real centerpoint between the first and last

they'rew edged between ik and mn

myk hyn type levels of scrambling, would have to go unicode to pull further

[opal hull]

How much do I gotta yap to be in the holtow thread

[buoyant nymph]

just gotta paint a picture with your yapping

[velvet narwhal]

You need to get to Lvl 3. You can check here: https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1009841693593440367

[pure loom]

Yeah, I had wondered if it was telling us that it is part of a phrase that's "C______ N_____ of the S______"

(ignore number of underscores)

[buoyant nymph]

something of the south I think

what's that from?

onto you rockhound duo gun

[velvet narwhal]

Maybe it's C__ Network of the Simulation.

C could be Cognitive

[buoyant nymph]

eh my gut tells me congestion of the system

that's not as much of a joke as its looks like

[unique spruce]

Carbon nitrogen sulfur

Collectively its all... Geochemistry?

The planets, elements

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_cycle#:~:text=The biogeochemical cycle of gold,important determinants of gold mobility.

Not at pc to compare this closely but does this match up?

Chemical structure of rifampicin (a), metronidazole (b), ornidazole (c), and tinidazole (d).

[celest geode]

.

yeah

[tribal prawn]

Oxytocin the Neurotransmiter in the brain responsible for love and affection. It looks similar to me. Could be a reach tho... (I cant post pics) https://www.acs.org/content/dam/acsorg/molecule/archive-new/o/oxytocin-teaser.png

[buoyant nymph]

that filename lmfao

[unique spruce]

William herschel was knighted in 1816

[buoyant nymph]

for u, since u mentioned saturn

[fresh quiver]

there you go 🙂

[hard forge]

#1177374733969408090 message

[mild bolt]

I've been off discord for a few days, did we get closer?

[jade citrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoporphyrin_IX

[hard forge]

We are...
in a loop....
help us.

[hard forge]

On the office image too...

Gives brown egg 🥚 shells their color.

[mild bolt]

did rob give another hint or eye something or are we just chasing our own tails?

[hard forge]

yes in the holtow thread

[idle gust]

can someone @ me with all the things your working on I'll help but I just joined but I'm generally good at these things

[jade citrus]

yes, that's the molecular structure written on the window. just trying to clear it up for @celest geode

its from T1E

[hard forge]

-egghunt

[wet leaf]

New to the hunt?

Check out #egg-hunt-onboarding
Catch up with this great summary: https://youtu.be/XaU6Fo2utBY
Follow the ongoing progress through Padlet: https://padlet.com/Kyne
Good hunting! 🥚

[hard forge]

and wiki too

[jade citrus]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/THE_FINALS_Easter_Egg_Hunt

[sour kernel]

Had a late night digging in odd places. I have a list of possible clues but they are from in-game and don't quite pertain to the current discussion. Also some is just hidden lore but I feel it still may be relevant. Is there a thread I can put these clues into?

[jade citrus]

you can just put them here in the main chat

make sure to use the search in Discord to make sure that stuff hasn't already been found

[fresh quiver]

which of this things did we already have in some form?
79
Electron configurations
name

weight and Electron shell missing right?

also btw: may be coincidence or not. but Gold is in Row 1B and the first occurence of gold was Tier 1B

[idle gust]

it seems too convenient to be a coincidence

have you thought about taking all the numbers and convertujg them into letters so like 1 would be A, 2 would be B ect

[hard forge]

I thought of this, and I think the Big Bold 1B was a reference to the periodic table 1B group

@fresh quiver please also post any leads in the #1177374733969408090 message.

I will check it later.

[fresh quiver]

will copy & paste it there.
Sounds good. for me its already 2300. So i will hop off soon

[sour kernel]

Well my big find was the odd number sequence on the poker chip but it looks like that was already spotted. Let me make sure I didn't just find a bunch of already found stuff.

[idle gust]

has anyone got any idea on where the videos or photos original came from where the developers put it together drew on it changed it edited if ect

[fresh quiver]

@hard forge done.
i think the finding of the actual periodic table that they use is kind of useful

[hard forge]

Thanks mate.

[hard forge]

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1031539174743998526

https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1009830123463266365

[idle gust]

so who's made this server any account or anything that someone knows off the top of their head ideally where there based

[hard forge]

It's official by embark themselves

[idle gust]

yeah how do I explain what I mean

hang on

so where were the photos originally edited or drawn ect

[hard current]

photoshop?

but that’s not important, nothing will be in metadata

[fresh quiver]

no problem.

btw did we already had that 2015 would also mean Calcium & Phosphorus in the perodic system of elements?

[hard forge]

sorry. I don't understand what you mean.

I don't know if 2015 was used somewhere

And how is it related to Ca. and phosphorus?

ohh...

you mean if we had that 2015 periodic table earlier, we could have linked calcium and phosphorus easily.

is that what you are saying?

[fresh quiver]

oh. was discussed today or yesterday here i think. when we take a look at the dates of the pictures ques & tion. There is the create date of 2015. and modify date of 2023. we think someone messed with it for a reason

Phosphorus because of the philosphers stone atleast.

[hard forge]

ohh....

[fresh quiver]

#easter-eggs message

[hard forge]

understood

[hard forge]

yes I remember this.

[idle gust]

no man like where location just wondering if anything lines up with location or something it probably won't was just zoned out and it popped into my head

[velvet narwhal]

Embark is in Stockholm, Sweden

[hard forge]

so most probably there

[buoyant nymph]

this is wise

relative geographics & / geographic logics of the egg hunt/seekers

[idle gust]

if anyone has anyway if figuring out the location of where the images were saved after they were made or where they were posted

[velvet narwhal]

Posted here: https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1031539174743998526

And here by clicking the red Xs https://www.reachthefinals.com/tfee-level2

[hushed chasm]

magnum opus

[idle gust]

yk the sergels torg thing pointing us in a good direction or say the meta data from the images gives us a location or ip or something probablg used all thr wrong wor£s but i hooe you understsnd what I'm tryijg to sat

[fresh quiver]

geo tag is removed. I think a few people looked into the metadata already.

[idle gust]

is there anything similar to that that you've tried

[gloomy anvil]

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/THE_FINALS_Easter_Egg_Hunt

[idle gust]

what about finding the IP of where it was uploaded from anything?

[velvet narwhal]

checking metadata is not needed for the EE. Nothing EE related hidden in the metadata.

[gloomy anvil]

you won't find anything in image metadata, read the wiki, it'll save you time

[hard forge]

against the rules

[idle gust]

alr brother hang on

[hard forge]

@idle gust please read this.

we appreciate your inputs, but we would like you to be well versed with everything we know up till now.

[velvet narwhal]

its not against the rules... theres just nothing EE related. In some Images was a bit lore hidden in the metadata

[hard forge]

ohh...

[velvet narwhal]

and some messages for us:
In T1C

[fresh quiver]

and some morse found in the metadata / photoshop layers iirc what i read?

[hard forge]

Thankyou for this

[hard current]

definitely unneeded and won’t be part of the hunt

[idle gust]

just catching up and reading everything now two seconds

[buoyant nymph]

I think there's more in the raw data that aperisolve offers, than just the patterns that aperisolve can show

[fresh quiver]

aperisolve is my go to

[buoyant nymph]

It could, as well, be valuable to check the glitchier output images in terms of sound files

Though could is relative here

[fresh quiver]

lol. there may be sound embedded into the ques_ image

[green lake]

Soup...

I just watched 7 series of Evangelion...

Trying to think what if there's work with numbers and letters.

Like egg or gold are moved to 5, for example, letters
So it's LTQI and JLL

[hard forge]

5Ts?

[green lake]

G-L L-T and so on

Just for example

[hard forge]

interesting approach

[green lake]

I used 29 47 79...

Nothing works, just random letters

Maybe should use latin

[hard forge]

I checked latin numerals.
Found a relation with element Md.

It's temporary name was in Latin

[green lake]

Hm

[hard forge]

Right now I know people are either digging Thomas Norton, Howltow Sticker or Periodic Table (recent Å reference from Rob)

[green lake]

Thomas Norton?

Why

Dawg, so many information from last day I've been here

[hard forge]

#easter-eggs message

Rob's clue
#1185727960980922488 message

[green lake]

Wena..... with youuuuu...
I don't wanaaa bi with yuuuu

[green lake]

Didn't get it

[hard forge]

Å

[green lake]

Yesterday I had a light(like small) northern lights

[green lake]

And what?

[hard forge]

both unrelated btw

[hard forge]

Thats it. No further leads.

Norton lead is added to padlets

[green lake]

Did someone checked this already?

Unicodes are kinda good clue