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I also wondered that, they stopped after the geocache part was over, iirc
what the heck is that lol
Kepler's symbol for earth
My guess is that 1. They want something for us only ♥️ and 2. It’s probably not art they feel promotes the game specifically.
Ah ok he put crossbones on earth because he can see the future
I feel that 2 is pretty much why. It's just random images that doesn't say much and would most likely make the wider audience wonder why they are sharing non-important images of guns or faces on the twitter account haha
Lots of orbital clues, but the light clues seem a little unrelated to that. 
But it would be great if there was some more brains joining in, just for more far out ideas
Exactly.
many of the far out ideas seem to have worked out in the long term
I keep mentioning it in videos about the EEs but no one comes 
You are doing amazing, thanks for trying ❤️
We should just lock this channel for us! “You had your chance!” 
you're doing good tho. it's just hard to pull people in when there's no "tangible incentive" for them – OGs remain 
I've invested too much time into this to give up 😭
Same. It’s basically a part time job for me. 
we here to have fun 

very deep...
We are actually living in a Pink Floyd song.
In Epitome Astronomiae Copernicanae by Kepler, he confirms the Copernican system using the 4 Galilean moons of Jupiter
gonna look back on those 4 moons
maybe they're the key
Mostly just loitering by The Wall
Thanks for getting us back on track 
I'm just happy I managed to miss the start of this tier, so I could actually play pokemon all the way through and perhaps gain some few hours of relaxtion during the evenings. But with that said, soon I'm gonna be sucked back into the abyss again 
They also feature heavily in 2061
I just think the answer, like before, is gonna be super close to the strongest clues we have so far
Euclid, and Jupiter must connect in some other way
What's the main theme of this tier? A lot of projected logos on faces
That’s good, and most annoying at the same time 
as well as 110D631
The opening chapters of 2061 gradually explain the events that have taken place in the interim years. The new sun, dubbed "Lucifer", has transformed the moons of the former Jupiter: Io has become a volcanic hellhole, Europa an ocean world shrouded by clouds, and Ganymede a temperate world that the human race is colonizing.
Wait, Jupiter?
sorry, Saturn
Jupiter is for the Galilean moons
but still Galilean is a super strong connection
I was like “what did I miss??”
From the time of Plato through the Middle Ages, the quadrivium (plural: quadrivia) was a grouping of four subjects or arts—arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy—that formed a second curricular stage following preparatory work in the trivium, consisting of grammar, logic, and rhetoric. Together, the trivium and the quadrivium comprised the ...
galilean moons seem unconnected to Saturn then
wondering what they could be for
I looked at this a while back but couldn’t make ground out of it. It wasn’t the password either 
Seems good because it's a convergence of all the topics we've discussed so far
it is?
Galileo did see Saturn’s rings, but couldn’t resolve what they were.
Yeah, that’s why I really liked it
arithmetic, geometry, music, astronomy
ah, maybe the galilean moons were supposed to point us towards Copernican stuff by Kepler
Where have they been mentioned in this Tier? I might have missed that.
The Oxyrhynchus papyri seemed like a really strong link between Saturn and Euclid too, but it kinda went nowhere. Lots of these rabbits don’t know how to dig very deep 🐇
I thought these were moons with Saturn’s rings.
not sure, but I was just recalling where they were mentioned
Though you saw a cotton tail sticking out of that hole and grabbed it only to find it is but an old sock
ooh like the Brown Eyed Girl's left eye
The new dude’s eye looks like the diamond ring effect during an eclipse, with a planet or moon in the lower left.

kinda looks like a picture of Jupiter, eh?

Lumbelhart?
Kumbethart

ye i was looking at that rn before i came here 
it's cause I was trying to get to this
Goo Gun Mania.
did we already talked about the squares on the edges?
Bean Wars
only the bottom left I posted
yeah but no clue what they mean yet
ye exactly
bottom left is 21 I think
I don't see one top left
Is that the blue bubble thing?
no
Oh right
You see a seven here? 
oh i see it
7x7
just mega tiny
21x21
top right is 18x18
bottom right is 11x11
bottom left is 21x21
top left is 7x7
.
18 11 21 7
.
but not in that order necessarily
KRUG
That’s the drink Embark are putting on for the party when we solve this 
“We regret to announce that THE FINALS will no longer be free to play due to the drinks bill being $250,000”
324, 121, 441, 49 if we use the sums
that kinda looks like the chevrons/Euclid stack
I agree
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god evening yes it looks great
"kumbelhave" is chichewa for "it's crazy"
THE_FINALS_Wallpaper_Beside_You_2880x1620 - what letter might have been left out but doesn't look like it because Beside and You both are words?
Maybe, but then it doesn't really make sense
Then you reply with "It does for everyone, besides you" 
Rob has been messing a lot with the word "you" though
Have these dots in the top right corner of the second image been noted before?
Not that I'm aware off 👀
7 of them in the bottom right corner
3 in the bottom left
1 in the top left
1, 6, 3, 7 - left to right, top to bottom
A F C G for numbered alphabet
Nice find!
Looks like a date to me
Notable person William Neile was born. Founder member of the Royal Society and heaps of maths formulas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Neile
William Neile (7 December 1637 – 24 August 1670) was an English mathematician and founder member of the Royal Society. His major mathematical work, the rectification of the semicubical parabola, was carried out when he was aged nineteen, and was published by John Wallis. By carrying out the determination of arc lengths on a curve given algebraic...
1637 Swings asteroid was named after Pol Swings From his study of cometary atmospheres, he is credited with the discovery of the Swings bands and the Swings effect. Swings bands are emission lines resulting from the presence of certain atoms of carbon; the Swings effect was discovered with the aid of a slit spectrograph and is attributed to fluorescence resulting partly from solar radiation.
Pol F. Swings (24 September 1906 – 28 October 1983) was a Belgian astrophysicist who was known for his studies of the composition and structure of stars and comets. He used spectroscopy to identify the elements in astronomical bodies, and, in particular, comets. Swings studied at the University of Liège, where he was professor of spectroscopy an...
"slit spectrograph" is interesting
I'll add this to the padlet
Discourse on the Method of Rightly Conducting One's Reason and of Seeking Truth in the Sciences (French: Discours de la Méthode Pour bien conduire sa raison, et chercher la vérité dans les sciences) is a philosophical and autobiographical treatise published by René Descartes in 1637. It is best known as the source of the famous quotation "Je pen...
1637
They are all great matches 😭
Add yours into the padlet
sure!
Up and left of the main image
I think i found something..
Kumbelhaven is a park in Denmark filled with artwork dedicated to Danish mathematician Piet Hein Aka Kumbel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet_Hein_(scientist)
Statues in the park contains a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superellipsoid
And other statues i havent figured out yet
Piet Hein (16 December 1905 – 17 April 1996) was a Danish polymath (mathematician, inventor, designer, writer and poet), often writing under the Old Norse pseudonym Kumbel, meaning "tombstone". His short poems, known as gruks or grooks (Danish: gruk), first started to appear in the daily newspaper Politiken shortly after the German occupation of...
In mathematics, a superellipsoid (or super-ellipsoid) is a solid whose horizontal sections are superellipses (Lamé curves) with the same exponent r, and whose vertical sections through the center are superellipses with the same exponent t.
Superellipsoids as computer graphics primitives were popularized by Alan H. Barr (who used the name "superq...
Kumbelhaven is a great fit
Ayy
Gruk
came back
Squares in the corners are letters K R U G
Great find!
In geometry, a superegg is a solid of revolution obtained by rotating an elongated superellipse with exponent greater than 2 around its longest axis. It is a special case of superellipsoid.
Unlike an elongated ellipsoid, an elongated superegg can stand upright on a flat surface, or on top of another superegg. This is due to its curvature bein...
I've added the new image to the padlet - please add your clues everyone 🙂
on mobile right now
theres no more space to the right haha
I can add ones that you see if you want 🙂 Just give me good directions
I've gone down below it
yeah I see
I'll go back through and grab the finds
Have these three lines been interpreted?
Yeah
Ah, yes. Great.
oh ye?
*secret service has entered the chat
Piet Hein won a design competition using the superellipsoid shape
For a roundabout in Stockholm
Named after a sculptor
who made a statue
of Descartes
whhaa
yeah I know right
could be like Mendelev statue
No wait
oh oh oh!
He also designed sergels torg in stockholm using the superelipse .
yes yes yes
Looks like numbers above his eye here - sorry if I'm repeating what has already been found, just having a good look now
my brain is mixing words around now 😭 need to rest
Yep, just the e though
Just the "e"?
yeah
It's the Book ID for 2061 Odyssey 3
Black and white shows it well 👍
great connections folks! 
ye thats for the arthur clarke book
Okay so Descartes is our Mendeleev?
since half the clues we found so far are pointing to him
Yeah he definitely a huge piece of this puzzle
Can someone find which monument Sergel made of Descartes?
I haven't had much luck on mobile
Ok, we have quite a few of the clues added to the padlet now
Stockholm, Sweden. Monument to Rene Descartes in Adolf Fredrik Church. Rene Descartes was initially buried at the graveyard of this church. The monument by Johan Tobias Sergel was erected in 1770
Ty
np !
Pretty insane to think Embark is a 15 minute walk from this
Huh, maybe Rob used it as an inspirational basis
Probably while he was in the church praying that we would eventually solve an earlier EE
I know right! Another crazy thing. if Descartes lived for another 30 years he could have visited embarks office building
The old one
Meteors, Light, and Geometry
All of which have been covered
it's all connected......
Ooh and also
his skull is on display to the public
the skull in the image might also be referring to that
Aah i can see that!
where?
BIV
on the bucket hat
oh
In the Iseult image
Okay Huygens is strongly inspired by Descartes
So iirc that links our two sides now
Just wanted to put my theory out there, I think we need to be looking at Mars, here are all the things I've found that link Mars so far. First I think the eyes are a reference to David Bowie's eyes with the pupils being different sizes. I also think the brown eyed girl image had different-sized pupils as well.
We also have the lighting bolt symbol that is the exact same as the David Bowie one, even down to having the blue highlight on the left side.
From there, I think we can link David Bowie and mars with two things, his character Ziggy Stardust who is from mars and he has a song called Life On Mars.
Next, I think 'Beside You' is referring to Mars being beside Earth.
Then I think a lot of the people we have been looking at all have pretty significant links with mars for example. The first telescopic observation of Mars was by Galileo and Kepler discovered that the orbit of Mars was an ellipse.
And finally
There is a lot of stuff about what would happen if Halley's comet hit mars and that if it did it would cause a much wetter Mars than we're accustomed to today. And then also in the same area, I think the water droplet is hinting at us looking for water on mars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superegg to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus made me find this gem
heres the roundabout, the connection to Sergels torg, Piet Hein designed this roundabout, its a superellipse / superegg and right next to the square. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sergels+torg/@59.3324475,18.0642901,179m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x465f9d5e7a44bf1f:0x47973eea6a251a0f!8m2!3d59.3323565!4d18.0645449!5m1!1e4
egg
I agree, the bolt by itself is enough of an connection.
Roundabout seems to have quite a large dropoff~
just noticed you mentioned this already, and fishxw mentioned it before also
Looking at stockholm is weird, there's so much water. The nearest body of water you can actually go into for me is like 22km away.
TFEE when serpenger finds the answer

Unplayable!
Hahah
How did you get to this in the first place?
This could bring Hasselblad back into the mix too
Ah, they’re in Gothenburg
Nvm
This is brilliant!
I love it!
BTW If you are in Gothenburg, swing by the Hasselblad Center, been to many amazing exhibitions there.!
Amazing hahaha
irl easter egg hunt
Piet Hein didn't have a "Works" tab, which I usually skim when it comes to these people. "Recreational Mathematics" was the closest thing so I skimmed that. Superegg was what I posted first, cause, well eggs had been popping up a few times already.
Then I saw that the roundabout he designed with the egg shape was in Stockholm
so clicked on the roundabout
and then in the first paragraph it said it was named after a sculptor
so I went to his page
and then I went to "Works"
which, actually, didn't mention his Descartes statue at all 😭
You had to go to "Life" and scroll down to the very bottom
it's actually quite well hidden
anyway sorry for the word vomit
Sorry I didn’t add more faces I had to sleep 🤣
Oh, I see, from the kumbelhaven clue
I was like “who even is this guy?”
@latent peak should get all the credit for this amazing find though
it was so blurred I didn't even think it was a word at first
I'm just thankful Resk posted it, even if it didn't seem to connect to anything yet
for sure! no idea how that was able to be read
look how tied in all these clues are
After a few steps from the Pier Hein page, via the superegg page, I ended up on this page. It might be useful, although I have seen anything obvious apart from the intersecting circles: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_shapes_with_metaphorical_names
Many shapes have metaphorical names, i.e., their names are metaphors: these shapes are named after a most common object that has it. For example, "U-shape" is a shape that resembles the letter U, a bell-shaped curve has the shape of the vertical cross-section of a bell, etc. These terms may variously refer to objects, their cross sections or pro...
You can also get to within one page of that shapes page from the eggplant page!
The leaf shape section goes here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_leaf_morphology#lobed
The following is a list of terms which are used to describe leaf morphology in the description and taxonomy of plants. Leaves may be simple (a single leaf blade or lamina) or compound (with several leaflets). The edge of the leaf may be regular or irregular, may be smooth or bearing hair, bristles or spines. For more terms describing other aspec...
And the shapes page links to that.
On a side note, Scott Manley’s most recent video about Artemis 1 discusses a lunar orbit that is essentially a square.
I’d expect Rob, as an artist leading other artists, needs to have a pretty good shape vocabulary so he can ask them for changes clearly. Like “make the goo gun barrel more vesica piscis shaped” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesica_piscis
The vesica piscis is a type of lens, a mathematical shape formed by the intersection of two disks with the same radius, intersecting in such a way that the center of each disk lies on the perimeter of the other. In Latin, "vesica piscis" literally means "bladder of a fish", reflecting the shape's resemblance to the conjoined dual air bladders ("...
I think we've mentioned this already, but I think the Bowie clue was in referral to Space Oddity, released around the time of Apollo 11, and, name wise etc was based off of a 2001: A Space Odyssey
which connects to 2061: Odyssey 3
This level has been a minefield of clues, feels like 47 rabbit holes to go down! 🐇
I was trying to get my mind off this 😭
Nah Dusty, it's way more clues than that so far.! BUT let's hope they follow the white rabbit and nt the red herring... ._.
not you too 🥹
okay fine I guess I will spend another hour on this after the match
that looks like a stickman raising their arms 😭
hahaha
okay lets do some digging real quick
White Rabbit -- > Alice in Wonderland?
oh
The Matrix
and
Jurassic park
don't tell me 'rabbit hole' was always a matrix reference 😭 😭 😭
Most of the rabbits must have very little persistence, because some of their holes are pretty short! 

The thing about rabbit holes, you never know how deep they go..
so all of them are worth checking
Or what sort of psychopathic rabbits live down them 
Hi, rabbits live on the moon
Surely they've spotted us delving into the matrix already
Perhaps the answer is more centred around it than we think..
Maybe they’re trying to stop us from our quest.
Animal control officials rescued 47 rabbits from an extended-stay hotel in Illinois, authorities said.
thats the pythagorean theorem right there
yeah id recognize that shit in a heartbeat
also I think we passed over it last time, but it seems Isaac Newton is pretty connected to all of this
this whole thing was his discovery
he's pretty well connected to Kepler, Euclid etc. too
also back to Pythagoras, who discovered the Platonic Solids
which Kepler used in his Solar System model
also is it just me or is that dark spot in his nose quite weirdly shaped?
very weird
PL-47 is a Machine-designed cosmic vessel capable of going into space. It looked like a flying teacup and flew like ships from "Star Wars". The spacecraft existed both in the Matrix and the Real World. The Real World version could be jacked into which would allow the pilot to have an expanded 360 perspective of the aircraft from top to bottom an...
Just remembered I made this...
I'm guessing if we need to follow the white rabbit, that is referring to Rene Descartes...
"Cogito, ergo sum"
The New Zealand government introduced The Rabbit Nuisance Amendment Act in 1947. I doubt this is a rabb ahem, a path we want to go down though, but it’s an amusing fact. 🐰
Yes, it looks overly dark. Almost like a bleeding nose.
And yet quite circular and blurred on the edge
could be a dark spot on the sun or something
Who knows? 
All I know is these later hints are supposed to refer us to what we should be focusing on
and these missing letters are really doing my head in haha
I feel like things will be a lot clearer once we figure out what those mean
A new rabbit hole I’ve just thought of is that the images include a lot of projection elements as well as astronomical ones, so perhaps planetariums are involved? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetarium#Traditional_electromechanical/optical_projectors
A planetarium (pl. planetariums or planetaria) is a theatre built primarily for presenting educational and entertaining shows about astronomy and the night sky, or for training in celestial navigation.A dominant feature of most planetariums is the large dome-shaped projection screen onto which scenes of stars, planets, and other celestial object...
I'm gonna be out on holiday for a few weeks, so I don't think I'll be able to contribute as much
I wish you all the best! 
I think this is the most bizarre Easter egg I’ve ever tried to solve! You’re, like, inside the EE. This is like EE Inception. 
Rob is at the new map
You were the one that found the Descartes connection though! I was already down deep in another rabbit hole.
Oh and have a lovely holiday! 
Btw, did anyone find out what the white house thing is about yet ?
I’m not sure these are the droids I’m looking for 
Possibly more promising, albeit a loose connection: President Woodrow Wilson was an academic, attending John Hopkins University which was modelled on Heidelberg University.
Also, on a different tangent: Galileo’s house in Florence is, literally, a white house:
Did some researching and found that the white house got its first phone number 1877.
In 1877 American astronomer Asaph Hall discovered 2 moons of Mars.
Asaph Hall also "determined the orbits of satellites of other planets and of double stars, the rotation of Saturn, and the mass of Mars."
Great angle on this!!
You’re on fire!!
Haha
Oh, I thought this meant the first number was 1877, which I thought was peculiar
the actual one is even weirder
it's just "1"
For his son, Hall Jr, "Hall used the Yale heliometer to determine the mass of Saturn using the orbit of Titan when writing this thesis paper"
Remember Rob put a single 1 at the end of one of his comments
I find typing "embark rob" works for me
Keplers first law
"planets move in elliptical orbits with the Sun as a focus"
Descartes Meditations on First Philosophy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations_on_First_Philosophy
Euclid's elements book 1...
Meditations on First Philosophy, in which the existence of God and the immortality of the soul are demonstrated (Latin: Meditationes de Prima Philosophia, in qua Dei existentia et animæ immortalitas demonstratur) is a philosophical treatise by René Descartes first published in Latin in 1641. The French translation (by the Duke of Luynes with Des...
I didnt realise that you posted this because of the 47 and not the red and blue light in the latest image
Another thing I just thought of is that this EE has been extraordinarily wide-ranging in its clues and potential subjects. That could point to an answer which relates to that. The FIRST person, I think, to have that sort of wide-ranging knowledge was Aristotle. He is considered scientist number 1. Here are his interests:
Aristotle (; Greek: Ἀριστοτέλης Aristotélēs, pronounced [aristotélɛːs]; 384–322 BC) was a Greek philosopher and polymath during the Classical period in Ancient Greece. Taught by Plato, he was the founder of the Peripatetic school of philosophy within the Lyceum and the wider Aristotelian tradition. His writings cover many subjects including phys...
He was also alive in 325 BC - 325 was the very first clue.
Archimedes heat ray -> Burning Glass -> Camera Obscura -> Johannes Kepler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camera_obscura?wprov=sfla1
A camera obscura (pl. camerae obscurae or camera obscuras; from Latin camera obscūra 'dark chamber') is a darkened room with a small hole or lens at one side through which an image is projected onto a wall or table opposite the hole.Camera obscura can also refer to analogous constructions such as a box or tent in which an exterior image is proj...
A helioscope is an instrument used in observing the sun and sunspots.
The helioscope was first used by Benedetto Castelli (1578-1643) and refined by Galileo (1564–1642). The method involves projecting an image of the sun onto a white sheet of paper suspended in a darkened room with the use of a telescope.The first machina helioscopica or helios...
interesting, could be the reference to the projected light on the characters
A good line of reasoning. I tried a step further with the Box Brownie camera (Brown-“eyed” girl and 1), but no luck with a password so far (I even tried the camera’s patent number):
A lot of clues potentially do hover around photography though. The projections, crossed circles look like a convex lens, lens flares, the line diagram on the mic could represent a polarising filter too.
Even Huygens image from the surface of Titan was quite Box Brownie-like in its quality.
The Matrix being a movie has an indirect relationship to cameras as well.
Plattan in 2008 was a literal warzone, so checks out 😎
(Edit: In the above sentence "literal" is meant to be read as figurative)
The Mithra 47 camera (47 from Dusty’s comment). Mithra is an Iranian deity. http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Mithra_47
Mithra (Avestan: 𐬨𐬌𐬚𐬭𐬀 Miθra, Old Persian: 𐎷𐎰𐎼 Miça) commonly known as Mehr, is the Iranian deity of covenant, light, oath, justice and the sun. In addition to being the divinity of contracts, Mithra is also a judicial figure, an all-seeing protector of Truth, and the guardian of cattle, the harvest, and of the Waters.
The Romans attributed the...
I'm thinking now that all of the Euclid stuff may be in reference to Descartes
and that we should be focusing on the Matrix/false reality stuff
especially with Rob saying we should follow the "white rabbit" (Alice in Wonderland/Matrix) and nt the red herring
Time to go down rabbit holes
-An infusion ✅
-Saint Rob Altar ✅
-Cool mug ✅
(I painted it myself, I'm proud of that smooth line between the colors 😛 )
Got the Justice™️ padlet. The Saint Rob Shrine, and the RHB mug. Truly living the life.
I love the ™️ 😂😂😂😂
It used to be a Giriko padlet, and before that a Pov padlet. Guess we aren't all created equal 👀
It's a TFEE Community ™️ padlet 💪🏻
I'm seeing many Van Morrison clues. His wife from 1968–1973 was "Janet Planet", could that be Rob's way of saying the answer is Planet-related? I see many mentions of planets in the Padlet too
The Kristallvertikalaccent in the superegg roundabout looks really cool!
Even I don’t have one of those mugs! 
Or is the Matrix the red herring?
It’s almost like Rob doesn’t want us to solve this easily or something 
Do you have one of the new designs? I like the Kia Kaha one
I thought id share what I think is a kinda rough overview of this puzzle.
!(I made a mistake, replace Cassini with Kepler)!
I think the White House thing is Rob's way of saying "Oval Office"
Thats an interesting angle, there's a lot of oval things in this one
Yeah, I saw that, round things are a common theme
No! Lol
I’ve just realised O=Ø=o=Ø could be Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune because both Saturn and Neptune have rings!
I think you are onto something
That could be something, though its probably more fair to read it as O=0=o=0
The font i used might be a bit missleading : )
But a zero is usually drawn with a cross through it in mathematics/science to avoid confusing it with an O
ooh, then, good point!
I just tried “giants” as a password, but no luck - thinking that we’ve been presented with gas giants, giants of science and some pop culture ‘giants’ - although I’d actually argue Van Morrison wasn’t a music giant. Anyhow, I was wrong.
And that doesn’t account for the light effects clues
Not saying you are wrong RHB… but I’m a little bit more complex and sophisticated than that… ._.
(I’m not sophisticated at all to be honest…)
It would be easier on all of us if you were more simple. Maybe something to think about eh? 
Sophisticated enough!

This EE is like one rabbit started a hundred holes but didn’t like any of them. Pesky vermin!
BTO -74
I believe this is the way to go
BTO - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet (Single, Album, Not Fragile 1974)
Randy Bachman - Vocals, Guitar
C. Fred Turner - Bass
Blair Thornton - Lead Guitar
Robbie Bachman - Drums
Looking at the clues, I see the O 0 o 0. I think this was meant to guide us that way, but we didn't see it because of the font
That's why we got O, o and NULL (which ALWAYS has the crossed line) on a later image, to clarify that
I think the others might have rings too
Not sure why they are united by a =
Yes… you aint seen nothing yet, you are in for ride.!
Missing another letter, 'A' this time
Do we have a list of letters he missed? 🤔
Jupiter: 4
Saturn: 7?
Uranus: 13
Neptune: 5
Not the answer:
47135
4=7=13=5
I think the fact that something is missing from the words might be telling us something
more than the specific missing letters themselves
Also interesting to think about, but the 0s used in 0x30 don't have lines through them so it would seem weird for a font change
also it does seem like all 4 gas giants have rings
also, unrelated, but apparently yesterday the LNBLab achieved a net-positive-energy fusion reaction for the first time ever
H from Caracter, D from Aventure, O from Nt, O from Yu - any I missed?
“HOOD” - whoever guesses the password clearly wins a THE FINALS hoodie.
True. I think Saturn and Neptune are the more easily visible. Hmmm… maybe I’m wrong.
Yeah, that's the number of rings each one has
A in the latest one
Planethood, the status of a planet 😛
A Hoodie? 
47 - Atomic number of silver
Also, and perhaps more relevant: The 47-year cycle of Mars: after 47 years – 22 synodic periods of 780 days each – Mars returns to the same position among the stars and is in the same relationship to the Earth and Sun. The ancient Mesopotamians discovered this cycle.
Did you get anywhere with this? 🤔
I'm thinking that looks like an eclipse
so do the overlapping circles
Partial eclipse, but why use the marker?
🤷🏻♂️
I didn't get that far 😂
I'll leave this here in case someone find anything useful in it 😂
Solar eclipses on Saturn occur when the natural satellites of Saturn pass in front of the Sun as seen from Saturn. These eclipses happen fairly often. For example, some of Saturn's moons can have a solar eclipse every day depending on the saturnian season.For bodies which appear smaller in angular diameter than the Sun, the proper, more general...
Speaking of oval things, a reminder.
The silencer in the third picture had the number 136 108
136108 Haumea is a oval egg shaped planet in our solar system.
That's as far as I got
This is a pretty crazy image
Hello everyone
@pure loom you like astronomy?
I want became astronaut
Crazy images
@pure loom you wrong it's not easy to see Neptune and Uran, you only can see telescopes
1.Mercury
2.Venus
3.Earth
4.Mars
5.Jupiter
6.Saturn
7.Uran
8.Neptune
Could you post an image of that clue?
just wanna see if it can be interpreted in any other way
Ooh yeah
I think it's pretty likely to be Haumea
plus it's the first ever ring system discovered around an object beyond Neptune
so the ring part is relatively important to it
perhaps these rings are what we should be looking at
So far, the missing letters/words are
to, d, o, o, a
2DOOA?
I don't think this is the kind of thing that would have IRL clues though
You left out the H from Caracter
oh, right haha
Sorry, I didn’t mean visible to the naked eye, just how visible they are overall.
I mean looking back we might be looking into Robs English a bit much hahaha
"where Mendeleev where born"
I’ve never noticed him make mistakes like that in any DMs I’ve had from him.
I'm a swede that sucks at grammar, hehe... ._.
Maybe he meant “Where Mendeleev? Where Bjorn?” 
I do think that the missing letters are super intentional though
not sure about the missing "to" though
that's just grammar
Possibly - the Aventure was definitely intentional
How I understand we need to know more astronomy to unlock new tiers, because Galileo is astronomer
I'm wrong?
He was astronomer, scientist and physyc
Ok
Uran 3 billion kilometers far earth, and Neptune 4.5 billion kilometers far of us
@pure loom I subscribed you, and you doing interesting videos about news TF, Easter eggs and that so on
Usually most of the astronomy here will be connected to the names and numbers in the images, and can be understood with a quick google search
I've learned a lot of astronomy since the hunt started haha
I got a new theory, not very wild actually, but certainly only half-baked. All the Saturn clues refer to the Roman God, and are meant to lead us to Cronus, its Greek equivalent. (He also uses a scythe). Cronus is a Titan (Titan clues), and also the King of Titans (Rex, like the T-Rex. Del Rey, like the 2061 book publisher. Both mean King). He's also the God of Harvest (Eggplant?). ~~There's also something about Phanes being born from Cronus' World Egg, but haven't had found much on it yet. ~~ [EDIT: It was Chronus] What convinced me the most about this theory is when I found an image... at first I thought it was Atlas, because he's carrying the world on his shoulders, but then I saw the scythe pointing to time (I think), did a little more digging and it looks as if it is Cronus indeed, and the best part is what's above him on the wall...our friend Nicolaus Copernicus 😅
I think today might be the day 💪🏻
Oh wait, we don't have NamaTama image yet, lets wait then
We can pray to SR in the meantime for an image of NamaTama... ._.
@vestal sedge https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLzGtj2w2elVkqEdPV6NgqRiszNAxnwIANXHK-Pa1Bk/edit#heading=h.3ibyff9jhzg8
Also here's the current padlet for the tier
Maybe you are right
I wonder if these were references to "time" and Chronus (Personification of Time), and the whole "Caracter" (missing H) is showing the difference between Cronus and Chronus 🤔
I like the depth of this. It seems to fit well with the nuanced complexity SR has stepped up to with this tier. The part that I feel is missing though, is it’s relationship to the light effects shown - projection of light, interference patterns and slit diffraction are repeatedly shown but we have almost nothing down that path that fits in.
This is where I’ve been wondering if polarisation somehow plays a part as we have both light wave effects and letters being removed (like certain light waves being blocked). Some similarities there.
Where did you get “Del Ray” from?
Hmmm maybe the light thing is the link we are missing 🤔
2061: Odyssey Three is a science-fiction novel by the British writer Arthur C. Clarke, published in 1987. It is the third book in Clarke's Space Odyssey series. It returns to one of the lead characters of the previous novels, Heywood Floyd, and his adventures from the 2061 return of Halley's Comet to Jupiter's moon Europa.
Clarke had originally ...
It's the publisher of the book
All the images have multiple light effects. Diffraction, lense flares, projection, eclipses etc. 
Rey means king in Spanish. Rex means king in Latin
Oh, ok. But any reappearance of them elsewhere?
Nope, but it ties to the king thing
Ah, gotcha now. 👍
My Spanish is limited to ordering a couple of beers 
donde esta la biblioteca
You know what amazes me is not only how complex SR has made these Easter Eggs, but that he’s doing it in his second language.
I think if the light projection stuff plays a role, I don't think it would be as central as the other threads
Such as Saturn, Copernicus, Kepler now
and if anything it might just be to reinforce those clues
Thats where you are wrong, Easter Eggs is what he speaks, it doesn't matter the language 😂
He’s doing it in his third language then. Even more impressive! 
Inb4 tier in Esperanto
Now you’re scaring me! Haha
you know full well by Level 3 Rob will have invented a whole new language which we'll have to decipher 😂
Eggian
I love that “egg” has “gg” in it btw
On Kepler's page, I also found connections to Projective Geometry, in the optics section
Yeah, I agree
which would connect strongly to the O = 0 = o = 0
with how Projective Geometry works
Could they be a projected “o” going through lenses?
could be yeah
Hmmm I guess that ties with Euclid, and how it differs from Euclidean Geometry 🤔
I wonder who invented the multi glass lens?
Joseph Petzval (6 January 1807 – 17 September 1891) was a mathematician, inventor, and physicist best known for his work in optics. He was born in the town of Szepesbéla in the Kingdom of Hungary (in German: Zipser Bela, now Spišská Belá in Slovakia).Petzval studied and later lectured at the Institutum Geometricum (currently Budapest University ...
Fits right in on the geometry path
It's actually considered a subsection of Euclidean I think
His father was a geodesist
I'm just wondering what specific point we're supposed to arrive at when connecting Descartes and Euclid
cause they seem to be part of a singular clue thread
what's a geodesist?
They study geodesy which is the study of the Earth’s shape, which in turn was critical for measuring distance in space back in the day.
Hmm
Maybe Descartes and Geometria was just to connect to Projective and Euclidian Geometry
all these people being men of science doesn't really help us at all 😭
One of them will make a breakthrough for us though I reckon
why do I have the feeling that the first few stages were a warmup 😭
What scares me is if we are still in the warmup
Oh.. right
Coincidentally, this meme was filmed about an hour from where I live! Hahaha
You live near the Shire? 😛
I’m like coastal shire. Where Bilbo might have had his beach hobbit hole 
Want to know something even funnier (sort of)? I met the location scout for LOTR and The Hobbit (who has, sadly, since passed away) and he said he needed someone to help with scouting for The Hobbit - my background actually fits quite well with doing that sort of work - and I didn’t take it any further! D’oh! I think I was worried it might not go anywhere after that. I think I’d handle that differently today. Lol.
That's so cool! I guess the "rock hound" part of the name has more meaning then that ties with that 🤔
Put it this way, I know the South Island of New Zealand very well. But live in the North Island now, which is still a bit new for me. I’m on the east coast about an hour’s drive east of Hobbiton.
I’m distracting us from our mission!
You are good
Petzal’s father had a patent for a polygraph (typewriter) - early typewriters missed letters a lot, I think.
Petzval invented a lens for projectors!
“Petzval's achievements are used today in cinematography, astronomy, and meteorology.”
I think at this point the answer doesn't lie with any new threads, but ones we've already discovered
I'm only saying that based on what we had last time, where Mendeleev appeared more strongly in the 3rd/4th image
I completely agree.
We (almost) got this!
I mean maybe Kepler is where we shouldve been looking all along
He's the most recent pointer to what we might need
But I think Descartes fits our case more strongly
Leith in the first pic, BIV in the second and Matrix clues now
not quite I don't think
there's a bunch of clues and we have to extrapolate a password from them
and we do that over and over again
everything is connected 👀
well so far each solution has given us the start of the next part
we know how many parts there are?
but I reckon there's probably something pretty sweet waiting at the end
i see
we do
anyway i can catch up with what there is
the padlets are probably the most useful hahaha
what level are we on as of right now
Level 2
alright
which should last us until release
There are 3 Tiers, 1 2 and 3
what is the current tier
we are Tier 1
is 1 better or worse
A-F sorry
there are 6
18 then
lmao yep
quite a bit
However I think we are slightly behind schedule
how would you know if u finished a part
the password works
where
there's a password page
ah i see
on mobile so I can't link it
Here’s the password page: https://www.reachthefinals.com/t1-d
For this tier
alright thanks
don't think you can access the overview from there though
I’m on mobile and don’t have the padlet link either. Is it pinned?
That’s the previous one
here
Welcome by the way!
ty
in terms of colours, ^ green is for clues identified in the image ^ red is for (basically) confirmed connections and ^ orange is speculation, strong or not
Not many red ones haha, so really not much to sift through
Blue: Embark Clues
Red: Current Tier We Are Working On
Green: Clues From Embark Images
Orange: Our Investigations.
Red is a bit weird as I tend to shade things red that are like, directly in reference to the tier, so the password guess page when we still had one, the EE document, and the password page for the tier was red.
We should be good unless we need more than 20 padlets.
16 padlets per level
Worst case scenario I go from paying $7 to $10 a month for unlimited padlets
Until we no longer need them lol
Speaking of wasting padlets I'm working on one now
Ooh, EE related?
Polarisation is a good theory
To make light disappear it’s called Cross-polarisation
❌-polarisation ?

I've probably missed a bit
Let me casually put all the places I've lived rq
Oh
I'm actually a idiot I think I just broke every pinned padlet link on this
Okay fixed it
Don't know if it's that important but there's the logo from the website
It's one of the ones that got flashed on the-
wait a second
Is Arc a robotics company
That sponsors this
And Arc Raiders takes place a fair bit after it...
ye, thought that was already theorized
That would be really cool
Lore acquired
Oh it would be awesome if ARC was a sponsor here
Be a really cool crossover
Maybe when ARC capture you, you end up in a Matrix-like state where they make you play THE FINALS 
The PCs seen in AR concept art look like they might struggle a little 
I would absolutely love it if one of the battlepasses had Arc cosmetics and the backpack was a little prototype roller.
Are either of them mentioned in the EE?
I will admit I haven't been paying that much attention besides fixing the padlets if anything goes wrong
Not directly, but Joseph Petzval did design a projector lens and has quite a few other paths in common with the geometry etc
The map padlet has been updated with a story like Darnoux's
It’s almost like there are two EE paths with this tier - what is being shown (scientists, geometry, Saturn etc) and how it is being shown - projection, light, diffraction patterns etc. It’s like if you look at a painting you can talk about the subject matter as one subject and the way it was made as another. I’m wondering if the subjects of this EE are the red herring and the light projection path is the white rabbit (or is it the other way around).
Hey guys, do anyone know if this kind of calculation has a name?
maths
That's an equation 🤓
TECHNICALLY is an expression, equations need an equal sign. I know, I'm not fun at parties 😂
Thanks guys, I was thinking the password might have to do with orbit calculations/equations/formulas.
Sorry @mortal ivy, I realize now that my comment sounds a bit annoying. I figured he was looking for an exact answer because of something he had found. If it's just how to refer to them, I guess any of those things works
haha no worries at all ❤️
Equation for an oval is all I got
Cheers! : )
A statue of Christiaan Huygens in Delft, The Netherlands - interesting inverted V in his hand
His hand egg 🥚
It looks like that doesn't it!
It's actually a disc
And the V has a pendulum thing on it too
hmmm, maybe neither are significant
@pure loom your videos are very interesting, and I subscribed you
Thanks! I'm pleased you like them 🙂
Yes
Found this "physicist and horologist Christiaan Huygens invented the pendulum clock in 1656 and patented it in 1657" 🙂 I had no idea
I think this was when it was first unveiled - at some event indoors
I think we'll need multiple confirmations - there are so many clues, many of which don't seem to connect very well right now
I asked DALL-E 2 to create an "egg plushie dressed as Christiaan Huygens." We can create our own "friend you need." 
Possibly not relevant, but timely: https://youtu.be/ktzxaTotw-w
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about a discovery of an extremely accurate 2200 year old Hipparchus star ca...
That's pretty cool!
lowkey need more arc content
based
wish i could help with the hunt but holiday is tough at work. glhf hunters 
Clicking through links on geometry wiki pages be like:
https://youtube.com/shorts/9N2ocVoqPj8?feature=share
I guess that if we get a NamaTama eating a mini-NamaTama, we'll know that we have to look as Saturn as a god and not a planet 😛
Do any of you know if Roman mythology has titans? I know a lot of their mythology was based on the Greek, that's why many things overlap. But was Saturn a "titan" in the Roman mythology as its Greek counterpart, Cronus, was. I thought titans (pre-Olympian gods) were only in the Greek mythology, but I've seen places that referenced Saturn as a titan too 😅
Basically, I understood that "Titans" was used to refer to pre-Olympian gods, and that Olympus is the place where Greek gods reside. My question is, are the Roman equivalent of those pre-Olympian gods also refered as "Titans" in the Roman mythology?
@fallen jasper I know you like history, not sure about mythology, maybe you know this? 🤔
Maybe?
It seems like at least one of the Greek titans got turned into a god in the Roman Pantheon and the fest of them remained titans.
Hmmm because this theory is based on the word "titan" being used to guide us to the Greek mythology, but I guess that if both used the word "titan", then it doesn't hold. What surpises me is the Cronus/Copernicus connection, is very Rob 😂
Thanks for the help! 
(Saturn being the red herring, and Cronus being the actual clue)
I don't think the Romans really used the titans though
From what I can tell all of the Roman accounts of it are explaining the Greeks understandings of the titans
Hmmm I guess I can continue looking into it then. I don't know where to go from the Cronos/Copernicus thing 😂
Does the Royal Castle at Warsaw mean anything to anybody? Or the Hall of Knights / Knight's Room?
😂
Or any of those things?
MDCCLXXXVI = 1786
I reckon this ties in a bit
I'm just not sure if it's Copernicus we should be looking at, or Descartes, or Euclid, or even Kepler
I feel like there's a singular thing which connects all four of them which we need to find
Using a bit of reasoning, I think we can rule out Kepler and Copernicus, since I don't think they'd put the signature of the key to the answer as a clue, seems too easy
That leaves Euclid and Descartes
I think we've had just as many references to both
Euclid early on, Descartes later
Im not sure if this is a specific connection
...
but I think the Scientific Revolution connects all of them (Aristotle and Descartes are mentioned here too)
I like the connection. It seems a bit "wide", is there anything more specific? 🤔
Hmmm what about Euclid? 😅
Idk or maybe it's just that Kepler, Copernicus, Huygens etc. happened to be alive at the same time
but I don't think it's a connection
however since they were all alive at the same time surely it's something that they all contributed to?
there can't be too many things to list
Kepler and Copernicus were influenced by Euclid's Elements, not sure about the rest
I think Euclid's Elements is very close to the answer already
plenty of clues hint at it but none mention it
I mean the initial 325 might've been a little on the nose
but idk it might just be our answer
Hmmm I guess Saturn could also mean "lead" 🤔
Yes
This is a very good point
“Elements is the oldest extant large-scale deductive treatment of mathematics.” Rob’s “1” could point to this.
Just wanna refer back to this image
which also might hold some extra merit, (Robs reaction)
“For example, Euclid provides an elaborate proof of the Pythagorean theorem (Elements I.47)” 47 appears here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudoxus_of_Cnidus
Eudoxus of Cnidus (; Ancient Greek: Εὔδοξος ὁ Κνίδιος, Eúdoxos ho Knídios; c. 408 – c. 355 BC) was an ancient Greek astronomer, mathematician, scholar, and student of Archytas and Plato. All of his original works are lost, though some fragments are preserved in Hipparchus' commentary on Aratus's poem on astronomy. Sphaerics by Theodosius of Bith...
Pythagorean Theorem seems like a pretty good pointer
It's one of the most famous and just happens to be no47
Not that crazy of a theory tbh
Eyes and illumination fit quite well into this tier lol
I think Camera Obscura is a good lead here
- All of the images involve projection in a dark room against a wall (typical example)
- It was used to project the sun through Cathedral rooves to tell the time/year (egg from part A)
- Strong connections to Kepler
- One of Euclid's topics of discussion
- The eye is focused on in these images, which also is a Camera Obscura
^Geometria^ (translated)
Possibly not related (although the name Saturn does appear on this website), but there are some amazing structures on this website: https://www.geometrica.com/en/home
The science museum in Malta is 🔥
Also camOs were used to stare at eclipses safely and view the sun
Is that the hexagon-tiled super-ellipsoid thing?
That one brings joy
looks crazy
I don’t know!
interesting how similar those triangles are to the Stockholm square though
And that we have seen similar structures teased for an unknown map for the game
also the projection in the first image looks like the surface of the sun projected on her face, no?
Museo Soumaya I guess is what it's called
I think the mere fact that the sun is projected in that way could be hinting towards the camO
I spent many hours trying to find out where that one image is from
no beans
Me too. Beanless.

where are you guys seeing this
yeah
ye i see that
Since we're speaking of exclusive societies anyway, might as well bring up that the Free Mason logo contains a compass. Archimedes and Euclide's weapon of choice.
Weapon 😂
Archimedes died wielding one after all haha
This is definitely not an excuse for me to learn more about freemasonry
Apparently the letter G often included with the Square and Compasses stands for either God or Geometry depending on who you ask. So there's that.
True that
Tarantino needs to make a movie based on that 
100% would watch
It’s all geometry until someone loses an eye
Anything with Tarantino's name on it tbh
Math giants fighting it out to the death, with mathematical tools
now that sounds like cinema
"We all get subtracted sooner or later..." 
Oh shiiiid
Yeah no wonder it was so unknown to us
Ohio is basically another planet
A clue!

but...
certainly it can't...
Members of the Grand Lodge of Ohio when a group of sweaty gamers burst through their door wailing of sentient eggs and Saturn:
The 13 books are the Elements
Hippity Hoppity your picture is now my property
They are, but you gotta agree that that was more subtle than something like the word "Elements"
I guess because it would lead us to the wrong elements if the word was actually hinted and would throw us off... even more
Hmm perhaps
Yeah actually you're right
I don't think The Elements is a form of the answer directly however it seems pretty close
btw alt code 47 is / ... maybe a forward slash meaning look at a certain website or url
perhaps we missed something
I suppose if there was a URL, there's no way we'd ever get it since nobody is trying URLs
and this is their way of hinting it
but... there are so many possibilities and it seems weak enough a connection that I don't think we'd be able to guess it

It could hint to the answer not being on Wikipedia, but a general website.
That would be so meta 😭
OnlyEggs
I'm so scared!
😂
That just opens the whole World Wide Web as an answer, no biggie 😛
my candles are back 🕯 SR 🕯 |
SR works in mysterious ways 😂
I wonder if the eyes emote reaction is a play on the joke/trick "what does "e y e s spell ? " and people say "E yes!?"
I will now read it as "E Yes"
I think for this Tier we might need Rob to use the SR so he guides himself to guide us 😂
reachthefinals.com/(...) for anyone wondering
is what we've used so far ^^
just found out the cross makes an in-game appearance haha
I wonder if the red X has a hidden meaning
Just put in any keyword you think might help
It wasn't in the game during the beta
Kepler showing his Easter Egg notepad
All I can say is.. #server-announcements
take the survey...
Oh right, then I don't remember it from back then haha
only when it came back in the... thing
yeah don't think so
by the way, what were previous URLs that worked?
how do u get devoncrosssing as a answer
is devon crossing like a road or smthing
Just translated them and they said Devon and Crossing
ah alr
William Crossing, from Devon
nostalgia
cus without that it is very specific
I wonder if we've been missing URLs this entire time cause nobody was typing them in
back when we didnt know ANYTHING could be the answer
Maybe if we just typed "Kramer" as a URL we mightve gotten something
When Dusty mentioned 47, Rob followed up with a message excluding "o" in "not". Maybe those missing letters might be useful for the url ?
minefield could be like an asteroid field
the clues are... they make our heads explode
hahaha

