⚡┇the-finals-chat

[hard cedar]

How do you all feel about... Aspartame?

[modest nexus]

Not big of a deal unless you only eat instant ramen every day

[fervent aurora]

Nothing bro i eat that everyday

[drowsy iris]

i have a friend who eats buttered noodles for breakfast every day

[tulip forge]

i have 1 everyday.

sometimes two, it depends on if i wanna cook something for dinner or not

[fervent aurora]

Ah shit imma die soon

[modest nexus]

Nothing because I'd have to eat a completely unreasonable anount

[uneven parrot]

Glitch trapped 😓

[fervent aurora]

So yall fuck with sea food?

[honest arch]

yummers

[modest nexus]

It's decent

[fervent aurora]

I despise you

[honest arch]

Despicable me ;3

[modest nexus]

Salmon is stupidly overpriced here, it's 400 in the currency here for a kilo which is about 20 dollars, meanwhile tilapia is 140

[hard cedar]

I think it's criminally OVERRATED

[fervent aurora]

And why is that

[tulip forge]

not really, though i don't mind a nice salmon or tuna

cocktail shrimp is also pretty good. but for the most part i don't like seafood. especially how it smells

[honest arch]

idunno I like sushi and salmon yum

[fervent aurora]

Cmon guys, we were supposed to start a drama man, chat is too dry

[honest arch]

I ate the drama, oo tuna

[modest nexus]

Salmon, tuna and tilapia are the one I'd go out of my way to get honestly

[fervent aurora]

Ofc u did

[fervent aurora]

I dont like any sea foods…

[modest nexus]

Calamari rings are fire but it's an appetizer, everything else I haven't had or meh

[honest arch]

Guwd for chu, I prefer meat more tbh

[fervent aurora]

Ive never seen anyone so into sea food

[modest nexus]

Oh yeah beef and pork is so much better

[sharp elk]

Did someone mention something splatoon related

[honest arch]

I mean I never ate a squid , yet

[fervent aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-tears-tearyeyed-about-to-cry-gif-4917303

[untold bobcat]

Sea food is good wtf do u mean

[near leaf]

i stopped eating red meat :P

[fervent aurora]

[modest nexus]

I'd agree it's a bit overrated, people lose their mind about seafood when it's just okay

[tulip forge]

squid tastes alot like ]shrimp does but it has a gross mouth feel

[untold bobcat]

Remember as a kid me and my dad would catch sea urchins

[honest arch]

shwimp

[fervent aurora]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1224183738364334270/1469727132362997960/attachment.gif

[untold bobcat]

I also fricking love crab and lobster. My dad makes a good cheese lobster

[hard cedar]

Beef, pork and chicken, what else would you need, truly?

[tulip forge]

lobster is alright.

i don't hate it

[honest arch]

they should add dominations from tf2

[hard cedar]

He's jus another me

[untold bobcat]

Shut up. You're made of wood you don't get to judge human foods

[tulip forge]

i think it's way way overpriced tho

[untold bobcat]

Ofc on a small island it wasn't as expensive

[tulip forge]

https://tenor.com/view/this-shit-aint-nothin-to-gif-10654407095131904619

[fervent aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-suicideboys-scrim-dancing-ruby-da-chery-g59-gif-14787970074919740005

[untold bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/5-whole-dollars-monsters-vs-aliens-funny-die-gif-7032773762547471306

[honest arch]

bleh I can't even buy ultimate battlepass with that twin TwT

[lean trench]

Should I nap

[fervent aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[honest arch]

Go get some eep, dummy

[untold bobcat]

In China 2usd can get a doordash order of a burger, a wrap, a chicken leg, and a medium coke

[fervent aurora]

Without me?

[abstract cliff]

handsome jack be like

[honest arch]

bleh I'd eat that in 1 ms

[hard cedar]

Ultimate battle pass is kinda not worth it, if you have money, go ahead and buy it. But otherwise the premium battle pass is just fine.

[untold bobcat]

All for 2 usd, imagine how much you could buy with 5usd

[honest arch]

looks yummy

[sharp elk]

I agree it's mostly just mid variety of the premium skin for 3x the price

[hard cedar]

I bought the S1 battle pass and I've had premium ever since. As well as the starter packs before they made them cost real money

[modest nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/nekomata-zenless-zone-zero-zzz-cute-gif-17881429060191703971

[oak schooner]

Respec Order is a meh change imo, idk if it should be implemented long-term

[tulip forge]

the ultimate bp has always been basically a supporter pack
it's never been "worth" the extra money.

but it's perks are a nice to have and the skins are usually pretty alright
but nothing mind blowing.

[cold whale]

You also get 1000 multibucks and 20 tiers, it’s honestly pretty worth it if you don’t mind spending 30 dollars on cosmetic content

[modest nexus]

I'd much rather have vanilla Finals over Respec

[lament blaze]

how is this a possible matchmaking in this game.
ranked is a joke when matchmaking like this is possible

[hard cedar]

I don't think so, it changes light in such a weird way. 150, 250, 350 is how it should stay, and maybe a speed change.

[tulip forge]

i like the new changes personally

lights are slower and heavy is less spongy.

[lament blaze]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-matchup-brokuza-gfVKiSljZxTkLa0GOo

[modest nexus]

Heavy being less tanky only affects specific match ups, everywhere else it's being able to move very slightly faster

[oak schooner]

175 light seems to be the biggest issue for me, 2 repeater headshots not killing feels terrible

[sharp elk]

As someone who doesn't play this game 24/7 it really doesn't make sense especially with how little new content there is for it beyond the multi bucks and levels

[tulip forge]

i can't say i even notice the speed change on heavy.

they seem the exact same speed. but i have noticed the speed change on light
they are noticeably slower

[sharp elk]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-barbenheimer-barbie-oppenheimer-movie-gif-14455380668331281856

[modest nexus]

Repeater bodyshots, though it does mean Repeater is now neutral vs Light, Chimera is now more of a winning match up by being unchanged

[hard cedar]

My point exactly. This gives lights freedom to play in a way that entirely goes against the archetype that is the light class.

[oak schooner]

*bodyshots, mb mistyped

[modest nexus]

Too much freedom, they already had a lot and this is coming from someone that did too well as Light as someone that doesn't main the class

[cold whale]

I disagree, light being 150 hp heavily limits the game’s balance because you have to worry about certain weapons being too effective against light, pike is a perfect example, where bringing it to 50 damage makes it absurdly overpowered against lights but anything below that suddenly makes it useless against other classes

[white light]

all that flaming for bro to go without a kill the entire match

[modest nexus]

But also if Pike got reverted, it'll be too good vs Med

[idle hazel]

they said they'd do a balance run of the weapons if the changes do happen, but its stupid asf to do a test with the weapons as they are now cause ofc it feels terrible if we're using weapons balanced around different breakpoints

[hard cedar]

Exactly

[gritty carbon]

you should send that to oscar

[sharp elk]

I agree. The problem isn't light itself but the environment embark is building around it with the content for medium and heavy. Light also is getting continuous nerfs like the stun gun rework and thermal rework not to mention the more defensive high single shot meta of heavy making light so unviable in a non casual setting

[idle hazel]

i dont think itd even be a bad change since weapon balancing would be easier since hp values are closer together, but the way they doin it is dumb

[hard cedar]

Coming from a light main, light does NOT need a health increase.

[gritty carbon]

fr

[sharp elk]

But will embark listen. Say it all together everyone, NO

[hard cedar]

This will create more problems than it solves

[half trench]

How is winch still in this game

[hard cedar]

It's not really OP, might need a slightly longer cooldown but other than that it's up to you're positioning and team coordination

[tulip forge]

Sammich time

[half trench]

How is being able to stun somebody out of every animation and then being able to pull out a gun that has massive dps faster than the guy being grabbed not op + grabbing through walls + moving cash out

[tropic belfry]

tracking dart is so fun to use ngl
*hits someone*
you are now... marked for death

[sweet vine]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-heavy-gif-21772094

[near leaf]

i just switched to holtow :)

[tulip forge]

chicken nugget looking sponsor

[untold bobcat]

I couldn't distinguish the bread from the paper

[gritty carbon]

here you go, shouldnt be happening

[tulip forge]

kinda bread do you eat

[hard cedar]

Like i said it's up to your positioning and team coordination, and apparently your weapon choice as well, there are multiple guns that have a faster ttk than a vast majority of heavies weapons

[untold bobcat]

The lighting

[sweet vine]

Jeus type, Cool

[gritty carbon]

[lament blaze]

@gloomy trail hey, so not only can silver get matched with diamond, it can also get matched with ruby

[tulip forge]

might be your monitor colors

[untold bobcat]

I'm on my phone, oled screen

[tulip forge]

then your phone
idk

[untold bobcat]

I see it now but couldn't tell what it was at first glance until I read sandwich

[half trench]

TTK only counts against same classes light and medium lose in TTK vs heavy Shaq and SA12 with the fact that heavy can pull out his gun faster then you while in winch means you just die

[sweet vine]

I see crust of bread

[hard cedar]

Not really, I can't explain this to you, nor am I going to try.

[sweet vine]

Wait a minute you got cozy computer's space inside the wall

[half trench]

Well look at stats thefinals.wiki
And you can't outposition inside buildings unless you have something to break walls but then again everybody will see that unless they are bad at the game

[sweet vine]

Cries in rented house

[hard cedar]

🧱

[sharp elk]

Imagine caring enough about this mess of a video game to care about your stats

[raven cobalt]

Buff winch.

[wind halo]

I need help

[fervent aurora]

Whats the problem then bruh

[tulip forge]

Closet gaming, had no use for the closet so I put a set up in there

[sweet vine]

911 what's your emergency

[wind halo]

Im on xbox series s but im not seeing any 120hz mode im also on a 180hz monitor

[sweet vine]

Still🔥 i need this

[fervent aurora]

Oh yeah gg bro, had the same problem, but i fixed it with a ps5

[wind halo]

Any way to fix it do we know

[sweet vine]

Cries in empty wallet

[hard cedar]

Get a ps5

[sharp elk]

Sir you need to go to best buy and get a PC immediately

[untold bobcat]

Literally all class, of they shoot at the same time heavy wins

[lean cedar]

TBF that guy would be counted as a gold cuz he's likely matchmaking with a gold player

[wind halo]

So whats actually happening with it since im literally on 180 hz monitor xbox series s also

[tulip forge]

does the series S even have a 120hz mode

[fervent aurora]

Its just the game for that console not optimized for 120fps

[hard cedar]

But that isn't realistic to say a heavy and whoever was winched will be 100% accurate.

[wind halo]

Yes it does

[lean cedar]

? Its a fairly old GPU

[untold bobcat]

Did someone say winch

[lament blaze]

hes still a silver whos getting matched up against ruby, and also gold vs ruby is not much better

[tulip forge]

i know the one X has a 120hz mode in this game but i doubt the regular series S does

[lean cedar]

On the series S it won't perform that well

[fervent aurora]

You cant do anything, no settings will help, its just how the game runs on xbox series s

[sweet vine]

Bro literally said "F that shit i'm— AHHHH" on first clip

[lean cedar]

I mean true its totally bullshit. But what can we do. Finals ranked is kinda dead

[untold bobcat]

Only reason I didn't die second clip was because the heavy had to "animation" the sa12

[lament blaze]

its exactly because of stuff like this that its dead

[hard cedar]

There's a reason light has escape abilities

[untold bobcat]

How was I supposed to escape the first or third clip

[fervent aurora]

Wtf are those keybinds

[sweet vine]

404 with that

[tulip forge]

winch is a fair and balanced spec with no GLARING issues what so ever

[untold bobcat]

They're all on my mouse. My mouse has a tilt scroll wheel. It can tilt left and right for keybinds. So push my scroll wheel right it's gun push it left it's gadget 1 , scroll up gadget 3 scroll down gadget4

[fervent aurora]

Winch is BROKEN, they literally hit me behind a wall then drag me through it bro

[wind halo]

But i used to have 120 hz mode on the finals but now i dont

[raven cobalt]

insert winch take here.

[untold bobcat]

ESPECIALLY IN RANK WHERE ONE DEATH COUNTS SO MUCH

[tulip forge]

winch needs a rework

[fervent aurora]

Probably with the new season they changed it, ask a dev or sum

[ripe shadow]

i was watching my elimination replay yesterday - bro was shooting in air yet every single shot damaged me and i was clearly not in their "aim" area
how???

[ember heron]

Speak no frog, hear no frog, see no frog

[modest nexus]

Replay jank

[glacial zephyr]

insert argument

[cold whale]

I guess winch just doesn’t phase me after dealing with old stun gun since cb2 so it’s not even that bad in comparison

[sweet vine]

After reading all this and still Don't have any idea how conmplicated that keybind is

[ripe shadow]

only way it can make sense 😭

[untold bobcat]

If I played nothing but point break and casual modes winch doesn't matter much. But in ranked where they just need to get that spec on you for an instant 3v2 against your team it's fucking annoying

[modest nexus]

It's not overpowered but just annoying

[fervent aurora]

Fr

[wind halo]

How do i ask em

[untold bobcat]

It's just left right up down. Not hard

[raven cobalt]

Stun gun > Nullifier seeing as you could actually shoot back.

[modest nexus]

The entire code is held together by strands of spaghetti so yeah

[oblique sonnet]

from scale of 1 to 10 how much do you rage losing the final round by them stealing it last second while you been sweatying the entire time to guard it

[raven cobalt]

Its not fun is the biggest argument Winch nerf has. And its a valid one.

[untold bobcat]

Id show a video but I'm not home

[fervent aurora]

Probably #1201841543926005810 or #bug-discussion , or you could just wait until a dev comes here in the chat

[cold whale]

Nullifier is way more balanced, stun gun made you into a free kill, especially back when it lowered screen turn rate

[modest nexus]

Yeah it still needs a rework

[gloomy trail]

this looks cozy as hell

[untold bobcat]

Not only that you couldn't ads too and the hip fire got worse

[fervent aurora]

Speaking of devs, here he is

[modest nexus]

Yeah Null is a more suitable design than Stun as it's a nuanced gadget instead of harsh debuff for free

[wind halo]

Any devs in here

[raven cobalt]

Nullifier has 0 actual counter. You are forced to not interact with the game for 4 seconds. At least when I got stunned I had a chance to actually kill the stunner whilst stunned.

[fervent aurora]

Are we deadass 💔😭

[sweet vine]

My god
Behold everybody
Ospuze Lord oscar is here

[ember heron]

Are you on your break? 🤨

[untold bobcat]

Against any good light that was practically 0 lets be honest

[modest nexus]

The stunner could also do the same by stunning you, killing your teammates in a 2v3 and nothing changed

[gloomy trail]

Hey chatting on Discord is actually part of my work description

[wind halo]

Gotta ask to find out😂

[raven cobalt]

You could also get third partied randomly so, theres that same argument

[fervent aurora]

Theres a dude needing help so

[sweet vine]

Dream job

[sterile garnet]

Doing yo job

[ripe shadow]

phonk listener alert

[ember heron]

Valid actually

[wind halo]

Gimme a job then 😂

[tulip forge]

🤝

[fervent aurora]

Bro ask him about your problem 😭

[cold whale]

That’s the funny part, you didn’t. Nullifier gives you time to reload and reposition before continuing the fight when hit, and depending on the situation can be used against the light that did it to you, stun gun was just a straight debuff with no tradeoff other than making you way easier to kill

[modest nexus]

It's the same idea for both except with Null it's not a mark for death debuff you now have down time to reload and relocate

[ripe shadow]

has oscar seen the ospuzing it gif?

[wind halo]

Do you know why i havnt got 120hz mode on xbox series s?

[modest nexus]

It's a Series S

[gloomy trail]

Nope

[untold bobcat]

Xbox

[sterile garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1460664613073981674/image0.gif

[fervent aurora]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1392756718571884596/1440982974697963561/oscar_wide.gif

[wind halo]

Yes

[raven cobalt]

Personal experience, Stun Gun i won the interaction as ranged more times than not.
Ive died to being Nullified and ganged up on. Ore times than Stun ever got me killed

[tulip forge]

apparently the series s does have a 120hz mode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjPgoa1Fahc

[gloomy trail]

Probably because series S is the version with less performance, so it can't support it!

[raven cobalt]

So, anecdotal. But I apparantly experience the game differently.

[modest nexus]

People know how to use the new gadget better, therefore it's bad game design

[fervent aurora]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1466386269344104772/GIF_20260108_192419_084.gif

[untold bobcat]

Everybody experiences the game differently

[sharp elk]

Let me guess. His next video is my house burnt down from the finals on Xbox series s

[tulip forge]

that'd be base ps4

[raven cobalt]

I think winch is fine, its a fun issue not a broken issue.

[untold bobcat]

It literally kills rank matches

[wind halo]

It used to support 120hz since i had it but now its gone

[sweet vine]

Neighbor : I hear chopper noise

[modest nexus]

It's Heavy's 2nd weakest spec just above charge

[raven cobalt]

I experience the game differently.

[wind halo]

Did they remove it or?

[untold bobcat]

Yeah, not ranked

[raven cobalt]

See above, I experience the game differently.

[untold bobcat]

NA and not ranked

[raven cobalt]

NA and my experience is different.

[tulip forge]

i didn't see anything in the patch notes.

but they occasionally do just shadow change things

[untold bobcat]

Yeah, doesn't mean winch doesn't kill ranked matches when all it takes is a winch to lose a cashout

[fervent aurora]

What is that bro 💔

[sharp elk]

We fixed the spawns! (In power shift and not wt)

[untold bobcat]

The light buff we needed

[modest nexus]

Thing about claw is that it's a pull stun which is a dedicated middle finger to one person, when the utility of goo gun and mesh shield are a lot better

[sharp elk]

Me when jumpad charge and slam

[minor wing]

cashout manip

[modest nexus]

However having two heavies, one centered around utility and one with claw, dangerous combination

[raven cobalt]

Yeah. I dont have the same experience when I play. I believe others when its an overall fun issue in general. But winch isnt that hard to adjust to on my end. Again, anecdotal.

[modest nexus]

It's great but Goo gun I'd argue has a lot better utility in defense than moving the station

[untold bobcat]

Ok how was I supposed to adjust to these situations then

[minor wing]

having easy high ground and easy targets makes fights a lot easier though

[modest nexus]

Though like I said adding a claw heavy with a Heavy that has Mesh or Goo, scary

[untold bobcat]

Only reason second clip wasn't instant death is because he had to do the animation for the sa12

[minor wing]

not to mention winch will usually stop a steal

[hasty kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367834588753690655/1017567793614430229/image0-14-1.gif

[cold whale]

Tbh heavy’s specs are the most balanced out of any class

[tulip forge]

winch should literally just move the cashout, it grabbing and stunning people is stupid
hell make it a short range grapple hook that also moves the cashout.

it'd still be an S tier spec.

[modest nexus]

Besides claw being just really annoying, yeah

[sterile garnet]

It's real weird how heavy can effectively use every spec it has as a panic button

[raven cobalt]

1st one, you got jumped and you had dash, winch is a valid counter to dash

Second one you got away fine.

Third just shows winch and the servers not syncing, tick rate or whatever, done shafted you.
Pretty sure on his end you were still in the room.

[modest nexus]

Med has turret so they're automatically DQ'd and everyone only runs dash on Light, meanwhile Heavy I see a lot more variety

[slim furnace]

They should replace winch claw with 🗜️

[dire timber]

Cope lil bro.. just position correctly smh heavy been weakest class for seasons

[cold whale]

All of heavy’s specs fill a unique niche and are powerful depending on the situation, compared to light which basically only has dash and medium which basically only has heal beam, demat, and maybe shockwave on rare occasions

[raven cobalt]

Replace winch claw with winch throw

[modest nexus]

Potemkin buster from Guilty Gear

[grave gate]

the finals 2

[untold bobcat]

Ok for the first if I was heavy or medium it still would've been a death sentence no? Second one i literally only survived because he had to do the animation for the sa12

[slim furnace]

Pre nerf potemkin buster indeed

[dire timber]

Demat is clunky as fuck compared to any other spec and shockwave jus got nerfed its heal beam only again at high ranks. The MIDIUM lifestyle

[modest nexus]

Actually it needs to be heavenly buster and getting hit is the exact same cutscene

[sterile garnet]

Remove the rotation 🗜️ on sword

[slim furnace]

Fucking autocorrect man how do I turn this gay ass thing off where it finishes the other half of the word

[modest nexus]

No

[ember heron]

Oh btw, i'd love to if the narrative/lore team would interview us at HOLTOW. I'd love to talk about insurance plans. (Please i need to hear what i sound like 😭)

[modest nexus]

Just loosen the clamp to 60 degrees or something, not delete it entirely

[sterile garnet]

Actually I want to be blind every time I lunge

[cold whale]

Demat is clunky but still good, it’s nearly equal to heal beam at their best tbh, especially considering the current meta and how easy healing is to come by from other classes

[grave gate]

hear me out radahn skin for heavy AND his weapons as a skin for dual blades

[slim furnace]

Buff dagger so that hitting someone in the 🥜 by sliding counts as a backstab too

[sterile garnet]

Actually I want my PC to shut off every time I lunge

Seems fair

[raven cobalt]

Getting surprised is "usually" a death sentence in a 1v1.

You still got away, although it looks like another desync issue that favored the wincher, as winch is SUPPOSED to break once you kill LoS right?

Winch just seems bad for the current server tick rate.

[modest nexus]

Replace the Sword model with SR-84 so you'll find the true utility of sniper

[dire timber]

Ya I do good with demat but dash and winch are way better the demat delay time is hell and sucks in chaotic battles. And I don’t think high rank players have demat equal to heal beam. They would rather just go HLL unfortunately

[modest nexus]

Being to give up and just smack people

[raven cobalt]

Its medieval theme, remove gun main melee

[untold bobcat]

I wasn't surprised by any of these encounters. First clip i literally saw him and decided to run. It's not like he came from behind and killed me

[peak pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-side-eye-rolling-window-up-gif-13323690016508828792

[cold whale]

That’s just the nature of high level play rn, medium can’t compete with the others atm

[sterile garnet]

I'd rather have no clamp than m1 spam

[slim furnace]

My birthday is in 5 days can embark buff melee as a gift 🥺

[dire timber]

Ok ya so we agree remove demat delay 🔒 (plz embark I love demat)

[modest nexus]

So revert the M1 damage buff and lunge buffs but remove clamp

[untold bobcat]

I've been seeing Hll a lot recently in ranked. Ran it a couple times too with success

[dire timber]

Dude if u can’t always be ready for a 12 meter range instant kill then this not the game for you lil brah! Get good

[dire timber]

I can play support better on light with arn at this point even with the h+ nerf

[untold bobcat]

True, time to turn on recon sense and turn up my amplifier so I can hear the clapping of heavy's bootycheeks so I can constantly stay 15m away no matter the situation

[raven cobalt]

Thats an odd winch. Well, ill concede that it probably needs a range nerf to -10m. That seemed wild.

[dire timber]

Or just carry a glitch can with u at all times. Pretty simple really

[untold bobcat]

Dash, almost any gun on a light, glitch, heal infuser, and gateway and you're pretty much the best support your heavy has

[dire timber]

Dashing behind a mesh and instant full healing lmao shits cracked

[untold bobcat]

I automatically drop the can when winched though

[cerulean sparrow]

Question: will every gem skin from now on have this carbon fiber texture or will it change every season

[untold bobcat]

At this point i feel like just making the winch more "readable" and adding a minimum delay would just be better. Give the winch a wind up animation and it can keep it's range

[tulip forge]

HAHA

[dire timber]

I think I’m gonna try light again demat been cool but it’s so nerfed compared to dash. Dash u feel like a ninja instant dashing while I have to fumble pulling out my iPad mid fight. Idk if I wanna go xp54 or arn tho

[modest nexus]

Besides it being a projectile it is just an instant middle finger stun pull so yeah

[slim furnace]

They should nerf winch heavies by making them dummy thicc and making it clap as they start sprinting

[untold bobcat]

Honestly dash feels kinda bad now with the extra cooldown. Find myself too used to the old cooldown and always needing one more second for a dash only to just stay in the same place like an idiot and die

[dire timber]

Now we’re talking!

[raven cobalt]

I think its just not fun to get stunned and yanked and it should 100% be patched because of the fun.

Thats why people feel nullifier is better than stun.
People feel like moving around is better than being able to fight back.

[modest nexus]

What if they run the muscular model instead of default?

[dire timber]

That’s fair I’m using normal ranged guns tho lol

[untold bobcat]

True

[slim furnace]

Still make em clap

[modest nexus]

Which side note, please add for Light and Med

[untold bobcat]

Oh yeah it mostly affects my dagger. For ranged it's not that bad

[dire timber]

I got backstabbed yesterday but I killed killed him 3 other times just by backing up had to respect him tho dagger life ain’t ez

[modest nexus]

Yeah after running Dagger I grew to respect people that main it, still annoying but dang

[slim furnace]

Yknow what would be a decent cloak buff? 10% speed boost when it's active

[chilly holly]

ANOTHER CREATIVE CL-40 CLIP ARRIVED

[untold bobcat]

Literally the best counter to dagger is back against wall

[dire timber]

Aight is there any reason to xp over arn/m11? I guess argument most fights in this game are close or far? So xp is never the best? But it’s more versatile?

[modest nexus]

That would be an interesting passive buff for melee weapons

[chilly holly]

RATE MY SKILL

[lucid sage]

Nerf winch by allowing me to parry it, then the heavy gets hit with the S1 stun gun effect 👍

[torpid schooner]

what is the quickest gamemode to get a match, its monday and it seems nobody is playing

[tulip forge]

sudden/10

[modest nexus]

The best counters are Light, situational awareness, not being at bad positions and good tracking

[tepid flame]

based

[modest nexus]

With Light being a bad match up, not only they can escape with dash or grapple, they also have stupid high DPS up close

[cinder relic]

i thought you'd like the art, but its fine

[modest nexus]

Best part of all, it's rarely worth backstabbing a Light as that could have gone to the Med or Heavy

[modest nexus]

I use the emoji for everything but I meant as it getting my attention, lol

[peak pilot]

Cloak should have a toggle option to put ur weapon away for full cloak, less sound, and the speed boost. With the downside of pulling ur weapon ir gadget out makes a noise while in that state when it deactivates

[modest nexus]

I mean characters in maid outfits I find unoriginal but it's Anby so meh

[tulip forge]

not a bad idea

[exotic pivot]

Chat, what is up with these stutters? game runs so ass, ass soon as there is a explosion

[modest nexus]

I think instead the glitching sound which appears when Invis is almost over should start playing sooner if the weapon is active

[pearl sorrel]

After you loaded the shaders did you restart the game?

[untold bobcat]

Your cpu can't keep up

[tulip forge]

are you playing on DX 11

[exotic pivot]

ofc, i tried everything, im lit playing on the lowest settings with, Dlss to balanced, shit still runs like ass

[modest nexus]

Destruction is murder on the CPU

[untold bobcat]

Or shaders haven't loaded

[exotic pivot]

also tried playing on that my fps wont go above 80 and would drop to 60s when there are explosions near by

[untold bobcat]

Check bottom left does it say anything. Like preloading shaders

[pearl sorrel]

Then its over time to upgrade the pc

[tulip forge]

i mean you have to have a pretty ass cpu if you can't run this at alteast 60fps

hell my 10 year old i5 8600k gets 90-110fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_sYtauVQvo&t=1s

[modest nexus]

Finals has gotten both easier and harder to run it's weird

[tame jolt]

Hi, I wanted to ask how I can check my ping. Can someone tell me please?

[tulip forge]

for me it's been the same. but some people with far better specs get worse performance then i do

[untold bobcat]

Can't

[modest nexus]

Easier because the optimizations they have done are crazy, harder by smooth destruction and more detail

[exotic pivot]

na i have a RTX 5060 with ryzen 5600, it ran perfectly fine before before season 10

[tame jolt]

Anything I can use externally?

[untold bobcat]

Not that I know of

[exotic pivot]

ofc, ik what shader preloading is

[tame jolt]

How do I know which servers I'm connected to?

[tawdry vault]

wdym taking down a light makes sure it doesn't run away or recover, the low health of lights also make it less worthwhile to revive them than other classes

[untold bobcat]

Go into settings general, should be first one. Set it manually to your area

[pearl sorrel]

Mb

[tame jolt]

It's set to auto but when a game is found, how do I know which one I'm in?

[modest nexus]

It's more that if you're going to dedicate a 320 back stab into someone, Light should be the lowest priority unless it's a sniper at a bar spot or the only target

[tulip forge]

when they first added the smooth destruction in s7 i did notice worse performance at first, along with some stutters, but by s8 those were cleared up

[modest nexus]

What Dagger does best is changing the odds to your favor by dropping their Heavy or Med immediately

[untold bobcat]

Can't know

[tawdry vault]

nah the slippery little flies need to be taken care of with 1shots to prevent escape

[untold bobcat]

Or accidentally backstab on the invis light. Done that plenty of times

[tame jolt]

Is there any plan by them to add such basic statistical stuff to the game?

[modest nexus]

That's when you run DB, not Dagger

[untold bobcat]

I'm not sure. This game isn't really transparent about it's servers

[tulip forge]

just set your server region to the one closest to you

[modest nexus]

DB is a counter to all 3 especially Light, Dagger can be a counter especially Heavy

[modest nexus]

But first, drip am I getting any of this right or is my goofy ass stupid?

[exotic pivot]

guess the game is cooedk

[pearl sorrel]

Fr

[untold bobcat]

Abt what

[modest nexus]

Dagger being best vs Heavy and Med but not that good vs Light, and instead should just have DB for Light

[pearl sorrel]

But i really need to upgrade with my i3 and 1650 i cant keep up

[tulip forge]

mythical recommendation pull

[untold bobcat]

Yeah pretty much. I almost always swap off dagger if there are too many lights in match. Dagger is mostly for when there are mostly M and H. Or if I'm feeling frisky going dagger against lights. It can work if you catch them off gaurd and butter knife them or 2 charged stabs

[tulip forge]

which i3 do you have

[untold bobcat]

Yeah, that's not gonna cut it for this game. Very demanding

[tame jolt]

Yeah I'm probably good with CS being better than this game then. 50 minutes lol, I can't stand this game gaha

[modest nexus]

With the best utility of Dagger and the absolute highs is changing the odds to your favor by stabbing their Med or Heavy

[pearl sorrel]

I3 10105

[rare pagoda]

Why the fuck isn't starlight hollow out of rotation, they did zero playtesting, shit's unwinnable for attackers

[untold bobcat]

Which region are you? Oceania is pretty much dead besides quick cash

[pearl sorrel]

It kind of runs good getting stable 60 fps

[untold bobcat]

Definitely gateway. The amount of times a good gateway just bypasses all the enemies and delivers you straight to the backlines with a height advantage is crazy

[tulip forge]

i mean the 1650 isn't a fast gpu but it can get 60fps with upscaling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-XNJ6fuHMI

it's really just the cpu that is most liekly the bottleneck.

[untold bobcat]

You could try and get better fps by debloating win11 and turning off all non necessary background services to free up cpu. Then it's probably gonna be at most a 10fps increase

[modest nexus]

4060 can get decent results at high 1440p with upscaling, sure it's only 60 but it's consistent

[tulip forge]

this game is not gpu demanding like at all.

well unless 4k, maxed with ray tracing but you know what i mean

[sharp elk]

still embark is pouring too much time into cosmetics and not enough into optimization or proper ballancing

[untold bobcat]

Ray tracing also takes some of your cpu resources too

[modest nexus]

So max out the GPU demanding settings

[sharp elk]

it runs awful for me even at the lowst settings and ive got a 2060

[pearl sorrel]

Im playing on win10 never upgrading to that slop

[tulip forge]

optimization is great. idk what you talking about

balancing ig i understand.

[untold bobcat]

That's what I did. I have 9070gre and i5 12400f and I play native fsr4 with gpu demanding settings set to high

[tulip forge]

win 10 gang 💪

[modest nexus]

[untold bobcat]

Win 11 is fine once you debloat. The game runs smoother on win 11 for me. After debloat ofc

[pearl sorrel]

Dont want the hassle besides i got worse games to play like fc6

[tulip forge]

just doesn't seem worth upgrading to imo
10 will still work for a LONG time

also once steam OS gets really good. ill just use that

[untold bobcat]

This play was only possible with gateway

[untold bobcat]

Yeah. It's not for everyone. At that point just switch to linux but I don't wanna clean install. Maybe after I upgrade my cpu and mobo later this year

[modest nexus]

Play Binding of Isaac

[tulip forge]

whats the meme going around rn
With binding of issac. i keep hearing about it

[modest nexus]

Which one?

[pearl sorrel]

Not buying anything now but i will

[oak tulip]

cant believe i dropped a 36-2 point break match

[ember heron]

Goated name

[tulip forge]

idk iv just been hearing about binding of issac alot recently

[sharp elk]

hes the DLC

[modest nexus]

Oh it might just be my "56 Brimstones" shenanigans as I do play it

[pearl sorrel]

I liked deadcells and hades i got fond of both games

[novel goblet]

i just had 2 ppl in my game call me and idiot for telling them to talk to me 😄

[sharp elk]

when there is a lot happening on screen ill get some bad dips as low as 20 fps

[tulip forge]

im not sure but alot of people have been talking about it

[tawdry vault]

actually true

really appreciate how Finals is pretty relaxing in terms of cpu and gpu requirements even with all the destruction

[tulip forge]

weird i do not get drops. lowest iv ever seen was 75fps in pointbreak

[ember heron]

Guys, 1 month until FH6 drops 🔥

[lavish kite]

I really feel like there should be more movement and combo techs for melee weapons it’s already hard to use. At least let us have some more skill expression

[untold bobcat]

@dusty jay plays 30fps at best lmao

[modest nexus]

I need to get Dead cells as apparently the composer recently did the OST of a game called Cinderia

[tulip forge]

and im on a 10 year old i5 8600k, RTX 4060 and 16gb ddr4 3200mhz cl16

[tawdry vault]

hearing about memes? Unc really checking out memes in his radio huh?

[ember heron]

https://tenor.com/view/forza-horizon-6-drifting-cars-forza-gif-9565832569516415995

[tulip forge]

indeed i had to tune into the frequency of "twitter"

[pearl sorrel]

Never heard of that game before

[untold bobcat]

I'd play if there was vr

[sharp elk]

i would love to vr charge and slam kill someone

[ember heron]

Meh, i'd play it anyways. I like cars, and love Japan

[modest nexus]

It's a roguelite that opened in early access last month, it's a promising start with more to come

[untold bobcat]

Dead cells is frustrating at times but fun. I fucking hate the beer barrel area though

[tulip forge]

yeah tbh it's fukin wizardry how well this game runs.

[tawdry vault]

kinda explains why people say "gaming is ded"

people don't even know about indie titles, Dead Cells is probably one of the most famous indie titles

[pearl sorrel]

Sounds nice

[ember heron]

You want frustrating? Play PEAK lol

[untold bobcat]

I just can't play any racing games not in vr anymore. It's just not immersive at all on my 27 inch screen

[white light]

taking down a light w dagger takes far more resources then you should expend, only go for it if you see a good oppertunity or you know you can consistently goo-lock

[modest nexus]

My way to describe it is Hades gameplay but with more options for abilities and items

[tulip forge]

just picked up that mouse pi for hire game

it's downloading atm but it looks fire

[cedar ferry]

@soft gulch

[tawdry vault]

i sail the high seas for all games, if I like it I then buy it

[modest nexus]

Also the controls don't need a while to get used to I genuinely forgot how floaty Hades 1 felt

[cedar ferry]

we ended wake up

[untold bobcat]

Sometimes I forget how expensive pc parts are outside of China. It's already expensive here but you guys probably have it worse damn

[modest nexus]

Thank you AI

[ember heron]

What kinda screen you play on lol

[tulip forge]

iykyk

[tawdry vault]

Asia*

Be it SEA, SA or MENA all of these places have so cheap imports from China esp

[cursive pond]

how has the v9 genuinely not been nerfed

[untold bobcat]

An acer 27inch screen. Got it for cheap and become it came with it's own built in speakers. Probably gonna get a mini led monitor next for hdr1000

[ember heron]

Nvm you said inches, i thought cm

[modest nexus]

It was nerfed pretty hard after 9.0

[tardy trail]

That’s what I’m sayin

[untold bobcat]

I'm at the source

[ember heron]

One horizontal, and one in the up axis

[runic mirage]

It was, its ttk was raised by about 0.75 seconds

[tardy trail]

Then why is it still so good?

[tulip forge]

it's nice to have built in speakers on one of your monitors

my secondary screen is a benQ gl2450 1080p tv that has speakers

[untold bobcat]

27cm screen lol

[tawdry vault]

it's been nerfed, its very strong but not as powerful as it used to be

[modest nexus]

It's Light, the class always does stupid high dps

[ember heron]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

[tardy trail]

Fair.

[tulip forge]

THEY HAVE RAM

GET THEM !

[untold bobcat]

Yeah, I mostly use headphones but when my family wanna watch a video with me and I don't wanna buy speakers it's useful

[sharp elk]

its because embark has a massive problem of never listening to the community feedback

[modest nexus]

Max rpm is 360 with 38 base damage

[untold bobcat]

Next challenge. Solo q to ruby on 27cm screen

[runic mirage]

Doesnt help companys scalp us before the scalpers can scalp

[modest nexus]

Because if they listened, they would be buffing Light by reddit

[tawdry vault]

are u fr? minigun, crossbow and m26 literally came from feedbacks

[tulip forge]

it's just nice as an option. i had some logitech speakers before i got this second screen and while they sounded slightly better (maybe,it's been awhile)
it was just annoying to have speakers on my desk

[untold bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-you-know-it-i-know-it-everybody-knows-it-its-true-gif-24093466

[sharp elk]

i more mean the speed of the adaptation of the feedback

[untold bobcat]

Yeah, some speakers are massive

[modest nexus]

That is fair honestly

[tawdry vault]

reddit is 99% heavy main still mad at Embark for even thinking about nerfing goo gun even though the 0.8 is overtuned

[runic mirage]

Bruh a new pc is gonna cost more for storage than the gpu 💔

[cursive pond]

Was it really under a second to kill a heavy with only body shots before? because it's 1.5 sec now (which is INSANE for body shots, please for all that is holy nerf it's body shot damage)

[modest nexus]

And also people still thinking 7.0 Sledge nerf was unjustified

[untold bobcat]

Blud doesn't know s1 v9s

[modest nexus]

It was overdone but Sledge has been fine since 7.9 which is current Sledge

[cursive pond]

It should be like .5 or .6 tbh, anything less and the goo gun is even worse, and it's very ehhh rn

[untold bobcat]

Your current one has a much better vibe ngl. Did a really good job.

[tulip forge]

tbf i only was at that other place for about 3 months
so i didn't really set it up much

[modest nexus]

I'm leaning more into .4 or .5 but yeah

[tawdry vault]

tbh I'd personally settle for just 0.3s, the firerate is high enough combined with Heavy's increased speed

besides goo wasnt ever intended to be cc, mainly for fortification

[untold bobcat]

Ahhh, my setup is still ass. Form over function. I plan to fully redo my room in a couple months. Too much wasted space

[sharp elk]

also i think a reason they havent fixed v9s is because then the meta would be m11 which requires little skill

[modest nexus]

Except Goo gun without stun is like really powerful for Heavy, a defense tool that's also mobility for heavy plus use in offense, that is insane

[tulip forge]

i do miss that glass desk tho

i still have it in storage but i didn't have enough space to fit it in here.

i had to get a specific size of desk to fit in the closet lmao

[novel goblet]

o

[untold bobcat]

Glass desk? I never thought about that. Is it better than wooden or metal desk?

[cursive pond]

But yeah why do they remove oneshots against light because it's not fun then give light almost oneshots/ under a second kills?

[sharp elk]

because the light mains cry louder than the heavy mains

[tulip forge]

im moving again here by may 1st.

so ill have to redo my set up. but i think there's enough space in the new place to use that desk

also i just like the glass. it was tempered glass so heavy as shit but i really liked the way it looked. (this is the new place, video small cause fb has scaling issues.)

[modest nexus]

Two I'd argue are reasonable are old Model and 8.0 Titan

[edgy python]

I can confirm 🗣

[wide birch]

The KS-23 was suggested by @broken gyro

[untold bobcat]

Update us with the new vibes when you've finished

[modest nexus]

Model with 108 damage is fair, it's really good right now, so that bit of extra damage and extra middle finger to Light would be dumb

[tulip forge]

will do will do

[modest nexus]

With Titan, a precision weapon doing 98 base damage

[untold bobcat]

I could probably take a few pointers tbh

[untold bobcat]

It's mostly ranged oneshots. Hammer, cerb, sa12 still kinda oneshot light

[slate solar]

Can chinese players still play the global finals server without vpn? Or is there some restriction so that they have to play the chinese version?

[tulip forge]

imo. its all in the theming

pick a theme and stick to it
i like retro wave so i themed the room entirely around it

[untold bobcat]

We can

[modest nexus]

Cerb needs QM as 104 + DoT isn't enough

[sharp elk]

the idea being make them one shot and not be a one shot overall ot chip combo especial with cerb due to the idea of medium being a supportive class

[slate solar]

Do you know which version is more popular there? Chinals or global? And by how much?

[pearl sorrel]

They need to add an antitank rifle to heavy or an awp to medium that one shots lights

[tulip forge]

you don't want clashing of theme/style

[untold bobcat]

Really 😲

[sacred sage]

this look amazing omgggg

[untold bobcat]

Oh yeah. There's like absolutely no theme in my bedroom

[tulip forge]

🤝 thanks

[modest nexus]

I think I've counted 5 ticks of DoT whenever I get a meatshot in practice area

[tawdry vault]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-role-mha-discord-role-gif-9682862357697337306

[untold bobcat]

Idk I only play global. I don't play the cn version at all

[tulip forge]

lol

[sacred sage]

heyo

[slim estuary]

since the last update i crash every game pls embark

[hushed gazelle]

🤪WHOS COMING WITH ME TO ARBYS🤪

[slate solar]

Thanks for answers

[sharp elk]

https://tenor.com/view/sueñitosgifs-traumatized-mr-incredible-los-increibles-meme-gif-24305569

[sacred sage]

have you made a bug report? that would be super helpful to take investigate! 🫶

[tulip forge]

sir.... this is a Wendy's

[bitter bronze]

@soft rain

[smoky kestrel]

Just wasted 10 mins playing against the biggest fucking cheater I've seen in a while, 10 mins of my life wasted

[tulip forge]

if you recorded, report it

[untold bobcat]

Yeah, I never really play cn version of games unless my friends play them, like league（英雄联盟）or Val (无畏契约) . Also all pc cafes I've been to have tje global version of the finals and all my friends play the global version too

[slim estuary]

how ?

[hushed gazelle]

is there a possibility of me getting banned for sending arbys images ok the chat (dont ban me pls)

[tawdry vault]

btw y'all made a great step with the healh n speed changes, ignore the haters

[hushed gazelle]

respectfully disagree

[modest nexus]

It's safer to revert it honestly

[dire timber]

Shits watering the game down for casuals lmao

[untold bobcat]

I don't mind, but OSCAR PLEASE DON'T FORGET US DAGGER PLAYERS. WE NEED A SPEED COMPENSATION

[slate solar]

I see. I would have expected the chinals version on pc cafe instead

[bitter bronze]

[alpine stump]

when daggers r basically spies from TF2 lol

[minor ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875757279230701628/1386763902146183318/4_of_them.gif

[sacred sage]

You can make them in #1201841543926005810

[soft rain]

more

[untold bobcat]

Spy doesn't have to move slower than a snail with his knife 😭

[minor ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875757279230701628/1386763902146183318/4_of_them.gif

[hushed gazelle]

i think we shouldkeep the health respec change topic in the health respect text channel?(then again it is 6 hours cooldown…)

[alpine stump]

true but he does have ALOT of options tho compared to what we have cuz all we got is dash/invis with a fuckin knife

[untold bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/ephemeral-attachments/1009830578545246213/1495796030204150062/globe.gif?ex=69e78c1c&is=69e63a9c&hm=75c1d8035d278f6951dd236c342ae9771feb6f811a16f867188a743a2772bdfe&

[sacred sage]

happy that you are enjoying the changes!! we will take all the feedback from the test into account once the test is done!

[slim estuary]

thk

[nocturne goblet]

Art.

[smoky kestrel]

Litteraly only hit headshots btw, you can even hear it in the clip, it went like this for 10 mins straight, not matter which one of us faced him

[minor ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-licking-an-ice-cream-cat-licking-ice-cream-black-cat-gif-2524499483309230510

[tawdry vault]

150hp one-tricks who can't sustain fights and 350hp slugs who can't keep up, yeah it would do good for you to actually learn to be versatile

[dire timber]

lol what

[smoky kestrel]

I love the respec order thing! its rly cool to be able to keep up a bit more on heavy

[ember heron]

Caroooline, please have Ines, Sorush and Kim make an 'Interview' with HOLTOW CEO, i need a voice 🥺 like a video on yt

[untold bobcat]

Can all cheaters just be blinded whenever they cheat please

[tulip forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381596265559097354/1262566337822195792/6c9c9f3f12f72d9e14b784d9ad22433d.gif

[smoky kestrel]

no bans. cheater only lobbies like in GTAV

[untold bobcat]

Oh yeah, for heavy the movement speed feels worse when i play ranked

[untold bobcat]

I hate the idea of wasting server space on those things

[sacred sage]

niiiiice! it's been really fun to try it out and see how it affects the calls I make when playing too

[sharp elk]

scotty would be having a stroke saying all his voicelines in those

[sacred sage]

haha i'll pass this on to them!! not sure if it'll help but

[wide birch]

noticed greatly increased team cohesion
not bad

[smoky kestrel]

btw, Could you watch the clip I sent? I'd like your oppinion on the light that absolutely head-beamed me right there

[tulip forge]

i just like how heavy isn't as spongy

[brazen veldt]

you actually aren’t allowed to learn anything new in this game, the moment you try something out, you will get matched against a ruby who treats tdm like it’s the final round of a 300k tourney

[ember heron]

use your charm hah

[alpine stump]

meanwhile he has a goo gun dat makes him REALLY spongy

[sacred sage]

that's super cool!! i was curious to see if others felt that too, i feels like i was way better at playing with my team as well!

[sacred sage]

hmm, not sure what clip it is and what you mean with opinion? 👀

[sacred sage]

i'll send them this emote

[smoky kestrel]

This one

[untold bobcat]

Is pinging teammates bugged? Can't seem to ping my teammates to say right behind you

PLEASE don't forget about dagger if you guys go through with respec. Dagger is already having a hard time with the dash nerf and now it's gonna be even slower

[desert stratus]

Not enough to warrant a ban

[smoky kestrel]

Almost thought so yeah :/

[sweet vine]

I want to eat with cat

[wide birch]

it'll certainly benefit new players. Didn’t notice a lot of immediate problems with balance also, but I only did a few matches, but you guys are better suited to identify specific problems

nice overall good job

[dire timber]

Scared me

[desert stratus]

Its better if you posted a few killcam views of that

[sweet vine]

Tired sorry

[sharp elk]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-meme-stolen-meme-fella-shiba-inu-theif-gif-12231823078672220472

[sweet vine]

Dogo for evening

[smoky kestrel]

Yeah I shoulda clipped it more 😔 That was the only suuuper obv clip tho, the other ones weren't all headshots but this dude just tracking PERFECTLY all match long

[untold bobcat]

Just don't forget about us dagger players

[livid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/gatsby-cheers-great-gatsby-leo-gif-317796149050832548

[sacred sage]

i'm glad you tested it!! it's super valuable to us with all this feedback, make sure to share in in the #📣┇respec-order-feedback too, it's been super fun to read the thoughts!! 🫶

[untold bobcat]

He just had a better gaming deskx

[smoky kestrel]

Better Steering wheel

[wide birch]

isn’t a melee rework intended for S11 anyways? let em cook

[cursive pond]

Health changes: we make light survive 2 more shots from most full auto guns, and breaks most breakpoints. Heavy just feels worse.
Speed changes: Light is unaffected. Heavy barely faster.

[untold bobcat]

S11 is 11 years away

[ember heron]

damn, luckily i've got year insurance

[dire timber]

Ya but bronze lights won’t die 10 seconds early now it’s only 5 seconds early so the player base will increase

[silver sinew]

They better make dagger playable again man they killed my baby

[livid ruin]

Auto mantle on/off feature please

[sweet vine]

S11 ain't a GTA6 bruv😭 😭

[untold bobcat]

Heavy feels much better. It's noticeable if you play a couple wt matches then switch to ranked

[smoky kestrel]

Btw as a fan of this mask, it is my obligation to annoy every embarker I see about this

Can we get these edits I made as recolors of the mask pleeeeeaaaase

[sacred sage]

i don't want to wait 11 years for S11

[untold bobcat]

It feels like it

[livid ruin]

No shop update today?

[dire timber]

I don’t want heavy to feel better they have cracked gadgets and specs and health poop to make up for it. Also gateway pad and zip get ur team to a spot together easily

[wide birch]

Heavy lost, on average, about 5% survivability
Lights gained, on average, 12% survivability

with a full balance rework these are easily adjustable values

[sweet vine]

https://tenor.com/view/no-update-gif-27030806

[livid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/why-asking-confused-gif-4593721

[sharp elk]

mad aura and it will be untimate exclusive and need a 30 buck payment

[cold walrus]

recreating the game's hud in after effects, anything feel off?

[cursive pond]

money just snaps

[smoky kestrel]

idk I'm buying UBP's religiously anyway

[sacred sage]

this looks amazing!! i'm not the one making the skins (we should all be happy that my stick figures are not making it in to the game lol) but i think the re-colours looks great!

[untold bobcat]

But don't rush! I can wait for what you guys are cooking up next. The finals is my most played and first ever steam game and I'm looking forward to what you guys have planned

[tulip forge]

Dorg

[desert stratus]

It loses survivability from mobility and movement changes much more though

[tawdry vault]

dagger is too much of a one-trick to only be either op or weak, TF2 fixed this by simply giving Spy a revolver and DoTA fixed this with extra mobility

[cursive pond]

man pyro nades are obnoxious

[sharp elk]

im to broke and think the ubp varients are cheep and not worth it

[sweet vine]

That smol fren feels like to bark "bork"

[wide birch]

right, so there’s basically not much to complain about

[tulip forge]

color wheel please

i BEG OF YOU

[smoky kestrel]

One day the person responsible for skins will see my stuff 🫡 no matter how long it takes. Glad you like it tho ^^

[sacred sage]

i feel like S7 was yesterday, time moves sooooo fast

[cold walrus]

rosegold reskin of the playing card throwing knives skin (S1 BP) when

[desert stratus]

I mean light being worse for no real reason isnt very great

[sweet vine]

There will be person wearing full hotpink'd short pants

[smoky kestrel]

and THIS omg this

[livid ruin]

Did u make that 1 m11 skin with the coins mag?

[dire timber]

Ah s7 the last time u could use demat without waiting 2 seconds the good ole days

[sharp elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1494939479994269746/9208.gif

[wide birch]

It felt fine in my opinion? I won 3 tournaments out of 4

[smoky kestrel]

Yeah that was me

[sacred sage]

rosegold

[desert stratus]

Its playable just worse

[tulip forge]

i want this outfit in all purple and pink

[livid ruin]

Ur goated bro

[sharp elk]

the embark expernce of getting stuck trying to go under some stairs. do they fix it. no but we get new cosmetics no one asked for

[untold bobcat]

Oh yeah, i just wanted to let you guys know some of the newer settings don't have proper Chinese translations. I wonder if these could be added in a later patch

[fallow steppe]

goop goop goop

[livid ruin]

Show this to Oskar Wetterbrant

[alpine stump]

how are u able to pull dat off

[tulip forge]

i have no idea of the value of any of this

[sweet vine]

Ngl it will looks like teletooby (in positive way)

[sacred sage]

now i don't get jump scared as much, it's good for my lil heart but if you do have some feedback for it feel free to put it in the feedback channel!!

[sharp elk]

embark making hitboxes intersect wirdly making me get stuck and beeing a bomb to get free

[fallow steppe]

a lot of colorful items often means it's good

[sacred sage]

Oh no, do you have some examples? 👀

[tulip forge]

i just like purple and pink
And there really isn't much in those colors which fits together

[alpine stump]

crazy

[dire timber]

But u left winch how it is. idk about that logic but I will leave feedback and pray

[sweet vine]

Black and pink I recommend

[sharp elk]

gotta get caroline on that

[forest saddle]

what

[sacred sage]

feedback is always welcome!!

[hybrid estuary]

Let's see how many agree that flamethrower is a cheap weapon that boost noobs too much?

[livid ruin]

@sacred sage Oskar should work with this guy

[sweet vine]

Uhhh range is too short

[untold bobcat]

im currently not at home so sadly no. I just remembered at the start of the season i went into settings and some of them didn't have translations. Didn't put much though into it back then. Also can you put in a word to the skins department for a mythic rarity butterfly knife dagger skin? It's an instant buy if you guys release that

[cursive pond]

holy fcar is so strong now

[alpine stump]

how it does so little damage tho?

[sweet vine]

It never been changed since s1

[wide birch]

on the other hand, heavy could be killed very slightly easier

Lights gained more HP and definitely adjusted a lot of breakpoints… especially with guns such as the repeater and especially the main branch 93R (light deleter)

93R on this patch can’t 2 burst lights.
very welcome because truthfully the 93R on the main branch is way too overturned versus lights

There is a better way to balance it, because even with the added 1 damage it’s still mediocre versus medium and heavy
revert damage back to 24. and just mess with the burst delay and RPM lmao

[tulip forge]

heh

[hybrid estuary]

why it's used by at least a guy in every match and in 50% casses they have the most kills?

[livid ruin]

They just increased fcar fire rate

[sharp elk]

when has it not been tho

[tulip forge]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-lies-lie-internet-lie-stop-lying-gif-16106191074125891844

[sweet vine]

He's just good at it

[sacred sage]

hmm, this sounds strange! if you have clips it would be great to get them in bug reports so the team can take a look!

[sweet vine]

Mine should be activated when we step on it not jump over it

[alpine stump]

then dats sad cuz its easy to counter them just out range em or just use a high damage output gun

[forest saddle]

nerf mgl

[sharp elk]

sadly im not at my gaming pc right now but i can get those soon and file a bug report

[desert stratus]

For heavies its unnoticable really, if youd die with 325hp youd likely die with 350hp aswell, the movement speed buff just allows you to do your plays faster but the general gameplay is same same

[hybrid estuary]

My friend (a beginner) who barely can get 1 kills used flamethrower a few matches, now he gets over 6

[sacred sage]

if you see anything off later on you can make a bug report and we can pass it on to the right team! that also sounds like a really cool skin 👀

[tulip forge]

get to the battlestation

[sweet vine]

If embark does i will quit the game

[wide birch]

yo caroline but fr y'all should check out my thesis on the 93R lmao

[livid ruin]

Leave my beloved out of this

[lofty matrix]

Ranked has been miserable to me ;-;

[sweet vine]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-i-quit-spongebob-movie-squidward-pass-gif-14140714269292708707

[sharp elk]

im in class right now

[sacred sage]

no stress, that would be amazing! thank you so much!

[tulip forge]

big sadge

[livid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-10576833416044093400

[forest saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/plotting-plottin-hehe-planning-evil-plan-gif-16790293

[desert stratus]

Overall its generally better to balance utils and gadgets over core stats

[dire timber]

Especially when half the reasoning is people don’t know how to play as a team without being handheld

[cursive pond]

???

[rare tinsel]

?

[lean cedar]

Please petty please get rid of the cheaters and smurfs in the asian server. The gambling game mode is even more of a gamble now

[tulip forge]

lol

[fallow steppe]

accept no?

[desert stratus]

Yeah the light getting from A to B too fast is just bad timing and not paying attention really

[smoky kestrel]

Crazy username in a video game

[lean cedar]

You mean yeaaa~~~~~

[cursive pond]

You mean dumb people who play light to play team deathmatch... don't play with their team and play team deathmatch?

[untold bobcat]

I asked some of my other friends who are also players from CN and they said it's all been resolved! All settings are translated into Chinese

[dire timber]

The whole point or atleast from my pov was that they could scout ahead and then engage with you. This just kinda kills that to an extent idk just grasping for straws at this point the balance is fine

[sweet vine]

That motor would sound like "Brrom Vrrom💄 "

[livid ruin]

Fuck it make it so that you have no weapons at the start of the round, the more elbows u land the more u gain ult charge, when u have ult u can use your weapon ONCE. Hazah the game is playable again. 👍🏽

[smoky kestrel]

I want a czech translation for the game man

[sweet vine]

Uhh why
Ohhh you meant Translation

[sacred sage]

eeeey amazing!! thanks for checking!! 🫶

[desert stratus]

Im assuming its more of to make tracking easier mid sprint tbh

[hasty kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[tulip forge]

pin wheel dog

pinwheel dog

[desert stratus]

And youd have to track for a longer amount of time with more hp so its to negate the hp buff which seems weird

[sweet vine]

I love that dorg

[tulip forge]

dorgo

[desert stratus]

So the hp buff just kind of does nothing on paper

[wide birch]

it does?

[tulip forge]

dog burrito

[livid ruin]

Remove all weapons from the light class. And decrease their health by 75 and give them 1 dash, with a 180 second cooldown, with 200 percent movement penalty, and give medium EVERYTHING!! There the game is playable again

[desert stratus]

Either youre ever so slightly harder to track at 150hp and reach cover faster or you reach cover slower and are easier to track at 175hp youd still die the same way

[copper sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/true-patrick-spongebob-truth-nuke-gif-15777863855591434629

[livid ruin]

Matter fact delete the whole class

[earnest kite]

https://tenor.com/view/true-minecraft-movie-meme-the-truther-the-nether-gif-10663098740832673180

[dire timber]

Just shuffling chairs around lol

[sweet vine]

Three embed fail

[copper sonnet]

nooooooooo

[noble lily]

3 for 3 I thought I ranked up enough

[tulip forge]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[desert stratus]

Lights more of die because of mobility not because of health in the first place alltogether

[noble lily]

lights die when they suck its easy to explain

[sweet vine]

3 embed failure is lwky fire

[desert stratus]

So idk the 1btk change is like barely noticable on both classes

[untold bobcat]

@dire timber FACK I FORGOT TO ASK FOR GYRO FIX

[noble lily]

im gonna crack you and thatll be fire

[desert stratus]

The issue is that they were easy to kill before its just even easier now

[cursive pond]

my hottest take is that almost every gun should have it's damage falloff decreased by like 15 meters

[sweet vine]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-26988716

[dire timber]

Lmfao just buff aim assist and winch thank you very much! #skill

[noble lily]

because they're sloweR?

[sweet vine]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

[desert stratus]

Just mobility being ass and then being slower yeah

[dire timber]

Just use arn dash and u can never die if u have gamesense

[untold bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850448260434624573/1319229600382980146/caption.gif

[noble lily]

its barely noticable to me and I've played light since the OB

[ancient root]

good morning chat

[desert stratus]

Dash is too easy to track and predict

[sweet vine]

It's 12AM here💀

[ancient root]

i doubt that.

[smoky kestrel]

hii

[noble lily]

i mean if you know when to use it and how it can be harder to

[desert stratus]

Id rather them adjust survivability by making dash harder to track and read

[amber dome]

Halfway to Emerald!!!

[sweet vine]

Good morning there btw

[dire timber]

That’s why u use arn and just sit far as fuck. Also dashing while shooting will win most gunfights unless the player has really good aim then ya

[noble lily]

im already there im such a chud

[amber dome]

(Please fix the fact that D4 is halfway to E1. WTF.)

[cursive pond]

Dash, the most used specialization?

[ancient root]

am i red rank yet

[desert stratus]

Not really, you just dash out of fights if you have a ttk disaadvantage, i wouldnt engage any decent player into a duel with that dash

[sharp elk]

i got that thrown in bug report caroline with the clip of the incident

[smoky kestrel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bugs-bunny-bunny-1

[untold bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/suguru-gif-2376732307775724251

[sweet vine]

Ask ranked

[livid ruin]

Embark buff teammates

[dire timber]

PISS

[desert stratus]

Thats purely because light doesnt have any other good spec, not because dash is particularly good within itself

[noble root]

I would genuinely smash my entire setup if that happened

[amber dome]

Ope, looks like this Cashout match has an estimate of 1 minute but I've already been in queue for 2:30.

Sure wish there was a faster way to enter Finals matches. Maybe one where I don't fight 3-4 third parties per round, too?

Oh well, we could never have such a thing like that.

[ancient root]

cloaking can be annoying

[sterile garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-tf2-waiting-piss-gif-27404794

[storm zealot]

it finally arrived

[smoky kestrel]

my hoodie arrives tomorrowwww

[amber dome]

And yet, you're a sitting duck

[dire timber]

Well atleast the new map playlist is still there right?

[sweet vine]

That green cans makes me feel thirsty

[amber dome]

🤔

[desert stratus]

Can be yes but i wouldnt say its a great spec, if youre caught lurking then you dont really have any options

[livid ruin]

Guys I think the propaganda is working. Yesterday I had not 1, BUT TWO HEAVYS BODY BLOCKING FOR ME WHILE I STOLE!!!

[ember heron]

Boint Preak ain't that bad ngl

[dire timber]

Son of a bitch. I told an embark dev or whatever the fuck about demat delay and they said it too scary and quick unlike skilled balanced and slow winch. It’s over

[sweet vine]

Damn most of my dummy teammate pushes me with RAHHHH

[desert stratus]

And you have vanish bomb anyway so its like kinda sensless to run it when you can have dash vanish

[sterile garnet]

Quembama using fcar?

[amber dome]

Yesterday I tried to stop a steal and I got goo'd 9 times and then we lost the game

[sharp elk]

its fine when you have teammates who know how to use LMB

[ember heron]

ofc, that HOLTOW weapon skin + revolver are peak

[cursive pond]

"a sitting duck" maybe just having 3 charges of get out of jail free is more overtuned then a grapple that sends you a third of the way across the map

[livid ruin]

lol

[sweet vine]

So no one noticed he called him quembama

[sterile garnet]

What about the receipt printing skins

[amber dome]

Took almost 3:30 to find a fucking cashout match. LMFAO

[livid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-defeated-give-up-gif-5507795813322566763

[amber dome]

Yeah? 3 charges of cloak?

Are you even paying attention

[sweet vine]

Cause it gains nothing after that long boring match I guess

[cursive pond]

I'm saying dash is overtuned

[ancient root]

my last cashout match win was literally carried by me

i stole every single cashout that made us qualify

next 2 matches wasnt so great, but it was expected

[desert stratus]

Cant do anything do this pretty much

[sterile garnet]

Heavy players are so oblivious

[rare tinsel]

I’m dying man

[desert stratus]

Dead without outplay room

[cursive pond]

remove 1 hp from light, they are balanced

[livid ruin]

This be some of the takes I hear in discord 😂😂

[sharp elk]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-18089782898853427957

[sweet vine]

At least they almost dies when winched, Cheers

[ancient root]

this is #👂┇game-feedback explained:

[amber dome]

And I'm talking about cloak.

[dire timber]

I think in fairness most heavies would agree winch is overturned or atleast a few tiers above demat. The top 2 demat players switched off medium completely this szn

[knotty swallow]

This is waffles and pancakes all over again...

[cursive pond]

You say "cloak is bad because you are stuck still" and I say "maybe it seems bad because dash is overtuned"

[copper sonnet]

ive seen enough buff medium

[desert stratus]

The stun on winch is cringe

[dire timber]

Don’t think dash is overturned it’s in line with the other top specs. Other specs need buffs tho

[amber dome]

I love the finals. I waited 3:30 just to paly fucking quick cash

[desert stratus]

Just forces you to get shot

[rare tinsel]

Guns that I feel are super strong but not a lot of people are talking about..
FCAR + ARN + BOW

[sharp elk]

i would argue medium is in a not perfect but solid spot right now and all complaints are a massive case of skill issue

[dire timber]

People talk about all of those I promise

[copper sonnet]

honestly valid

[dire timber]

I don’t even wanna know what gif is

[copper sonnet]

lmao

[rare tinsel]

Maybe you’re right.. I don’t check here a lot

[cursive pond]

Fcar and crossbow are def overpreforming

[livid ruin]

Reading the description of that gif is wild 😂

[grim raft]

almost

[sterile garnet]

Read embed and weep

[sweet vine]

Jesus christ

[dire timber]

Oh I’m doing more than weeping my fiend

[sharp elk]

look at the gif title

[alpine stump]

wym crossbow doesnt have GOOD hipfire and GOOD damage or anything

[sterile garnet]

Clamp

[dire timber]

Compress!

[livid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/expose-gif-7820939340018294834

[untold bobcat]

@dire timber I'm curious. How old are you. Just wanna know if we're the same age range

[tepid flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/606497915287896076/1455162932773126359/retard_flashlight_speech_bubble.gif

[sharp elk]

a bit but not too much to where its broken

[amber dome]

"Cloak is kind of useful" - Someone else
"Cloak is sitting duck" - Me
"Dash is OP" - You

[copper sonnet]

dash is good and balanced

[sterile garnet]

The strat🤯

[dire timber]

Oh god we’re getting really serious in this relationship.. ok lol fr tho im 25 don’t tell anyone tho

[alpine stump]

ah remember the good ol days where cloak was so OP

[tulip forge]

same age (well in a month)

[tepid flame]

I'm taking notes ngl

[dire timber]

Respect to plank ideal age ideal year

[sterile garnet]

Damn bro

[untold bobcat]

I'm the 弟弟 in the relationship . I'm 20, man I feel old. I remember when my age used to start with 1

[dire timber]

Ya bro I’m creeping on u lowkey

[tulip forge]

it's weird to think im gonna be half way through my 20s in a month

[livid ruin]

“MGL is a horrible weapon”.

Me:

[grim raft]

😏

[sterile garnet]

Nah you just creepy

[dire timber]

Ya it goes by fast

[dire timber]

Perhaps

[alpine stump]

I already am buckle up bucko

[tulip forge]

🥲

[livid ruin]

Yo life over twin

[sterile garnet]

Anybody else 5 trillion light years old

[untold bobcat]

I miss not having responsibilities

[tulip forge]

same brother... same

[chilly holly]

my mvp...

[dire timber]

lol ya took it for granted. Has its perks tho I get to play finals after work! Yipee

[livid ruin]

Just don’t celebrate ur birthday for a couple years that should fix it

[alpine stump]

the weird part about age "I wanna be older so I can have more freedom" "I wanna be younger so I can have less responsibility"

[untold bobcat]

That's good. Still have some free time

[tepid flame]

he's cooler

[sterile garnet]

"Can't wait to have white hair when I turn 13"

[dire timber]

The grass is always greener

[untold bobcat]

True, at least now I can buy a whole cake and eat it by myself. Has some perks I guess

[alpine stump]

truly

[alpine stump]

like with everything where theres a downside theres always an upside

[untold bobcat]

That's why I spray paint mine

[tulip forge]

only nice thing about being an adult is money

[noble lily]

cake is still cake even if it has a candle brother

[livid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/evan-almighty-noahs-ark-white-hair-white-long-hair-hi-gif-3462972

[alpine stump]

true unless ur asian and u celebrate lunar new year

[untold bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cat-girl-talk-fast-online-chat-gif-16273991575876544877

[noble lily]

you already know it

[untold bobcat]

I have yet to give out 红包 because I'm not married

[alpine stump]

damn rip

[cursive pond]

In my current match all of our cashouts have had every team on them

[chilly holly]

making a perfect shot without guessing is my power

[dire timber]

What’s ur uhh birth animal? Mine is snake i think

[untold bobcat]

I'm year of the dog

[alpine stump]

I am the other version of a snake

[untold bobcat]

I don't plan on marrying till I'm able to buy a 5090 or the equivalent without worrying 😂

[tulip forge]

iv never really understood the reason to legally bind yourself to another person
but i respect the commitment.

[stable ore]

A dumbass?

[alpine stump]

true

[dire timber]

dragon? Or uhh bunny?

[livid ruin]

Stay signle

[amber dome]

Get off my cashout

[alpine stump]

damn how u figure it out so quickly

[alpine stump]

dragon

[untold bobcat]

I'm in a relationship of 2 years already. Just not gonna marry very soon

[chilly holly]

rate my recent clip

[rapid girder]

Good morning

[alpine stump]

good progress nowadays u dont always have to speedrun to get married good dat we arent forced to

[untold bobcat]

Cl/40

[livid ruin]

Didn’t know u had motion like that. My apologies

[modest nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/bridget-bridget-guilty-gear-brisket-taunt-gif-26654715

[livid ruin]

Maidenless

[dire timber]

Ya I gotta lock in

[inland turret]

embark I pray you bankrupt and all your games shut down

[untold bobcat]

Oh yeah. It's funny looking back whit me talking to my gf about marriage very often.

[tulip forge]

lighthouse less?

[modest nexus]

It's nice chilling as single, don't have any interest in romance, and no it's not because of no lifing Finals

[untold bobcat]

You got this Mike

[cursive pond]

genuinely like 2 teams just peacing out so they can both fight us together

[tulip forge]

its why 3v3v3v3 doesn't work

[alpine stump]

yea good thing we arent forced to speedrun into marriage taking our time is more beneficial

[livid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-gif-16502337422339586589

[sterile garnet]

Relationships be like a quick cash game

Third party always comes by to steal

[cursive pond]

why. like why. one of these teams even lost, just so we would lose and I lost 600 rs because of it

[dire timber]

Thank you drip. I will start daily workouts and better diet for you goat. Only get one life 🔒

[tulip forge]

if you say so

[livid ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

And they said Shakespeare was dead

[modest nexus]

Real but nah, my way of seeing it right now is just not interested

[untold bobcat]

True. Definitely start daily workout. Even 10mins a day you'll feel it in about a week. Don't forget to stretch too

[jagged peak]

bro what is this ass matchmaking, go in to a ranked game, 31k plat, guess what. 3 full stack ruby teams to fight against, guaranteed loss, lets go

[tulip forge]

imo i wouldn't get into a relationship until you are stable.
like a solid job and a place of your own.

adding a relationship onto trying to keep down a job and still living with others, is alot to ask

[alpine stump]

sometimes I am glad I dont touch ranked in this game

[chilly holly]

Trash competitive game that doesn't give a shit to rank

[alpine stump]

Playing point break or power shift I find more fun then cashout

[tulip forge]

life can already be stressful enough

[modest nexus]

And not in a mental state where you constantly rant about everything mentally like it's Tear along the dotted line, goated series by the way

[tulip forge]

same here, i only play powershift and pointbreak

[inland turret]

the greatest part of the finals is you can make all the right calls and still lose what a wonderful game

[jagged peak]

yes

[alpine stump]

its just less hassle when u focus on just two teams

[modest nexus]

That's honestly universal, I have this problem in every game

[alpine stump]

great way to just play without worry of third parties and stuff

[dire timber]

Preparing u for life

[inland turret]

its most extreme in the finals or games with mutiple teams

[chilly holly]

"hmm i decided to kick pink this game" is the problem here

[tulip forge]

yeah. it's why i don't play ranked, if H2H was the ranked mode i'd play ranked
or even hell id play it if it was powershift, i dunno about pointbreak ranked though but maybe

[amber dome]

Pink team has 3rd partie dmy team twice this round. Purple team has fourth partie dmy team once. I love the finals I love the finals why is there no fucking sbmm in this GAME

WHY IS PURPLE TEAM THREE RUBY PLAYERS AND PINK TEAM HAS NO IDE AWHAT THEY'RE DOIIIIIIING

[tulip forge]

there is but the ranked player pool is pretty small

most play casually

[modest nexus]

I mean, even if really scummy, there's something unique about being able to force a team out even if it feels bad when it happens to you

[alpine stump]

if Pointbreak had ranked oh boi the coordination and meta would prob ruin the mode

[amber dome]

I'm about to just start playing ranked isntead of cashout if my matches are goihng to keep fucking being this way

[untold bobcat]

I kinda agree. But if it happens just let it happen I guess? Having a partner can be a great motivator

[modest nexus]

With it being more extreme here, not really it felt worse in Rivals and Overwatch

[jagged peak]

so accurate lol

[alpine stump]

once the mode gets competitive its just gonna get ruined by min maxing everytime

[amber dome]

Same shit, but at least I get a fucking weapon skin if I'm being griefed and I'll generally just straight be better than averyone else

[inland turret]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-say-what-wait-what-huh-confused-gif-6106526198908117631

[tulip forge]

its up to each person to do as they see fit but i'v avoided a relationship until just recently.

[modest nexus]

Might be different player experience but it felt worse in those two games even if it isn't

[chilly holly]

But if this game want this shit as to be a function or fun then game should make fair matchmaking not this broad, and that is bullshit part because 1 team just rule whole game by their own and it's enabled by system

[alpine stump]

I will never forget how rivals made supports the most strongest class in the game

[untold bobcat]

Each circumstance is different

[modest nexus]

Not saying it IS worse, but it FELT worse

[tulip forge]

yeh

[untold bobcat]

I'm hungry for chicken

[modest nexus]

Yeah matchmaking in this game is still ass, just saying that I'd much rather work around cashout than a spiderman and a widow in Rivals

[jagged peak]

jesus h christ, talk about a WWWIIIIIIDDDDDDEEEEE matckmaking lol

[frank drum]

You sound like a bundle of joy

[inland turret]

you can lose at anytime in pretty much any game but if your team all play a situation very well the finals will still punish you for it

[chilly holly]

And embark wondering why nobody enters rank; who the fuck want this kind of rank in big 2026

[tulip forge]

because i didn't want to have to worry about having a relationship, while trying to hold down a job and living with other people?

i guess then

[frank drum]

Indeed

[modest nexus]

Yeah it's another team pulling out the devious strategy which works by being really scummy

[alpine stump]

wym My rank is in point break where there is none 😄

[tulip forge]

hmm

[chilly holly]

Enjoy while it last, competitive game that doesn't gives a shit to rank always died and it is inevitable

[inland turret]

or just decided they don't want to play against you in the next round so they team

[frank drum]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-paul-dano-riddler-somarra-gif-835799788689308789

[noble lily]

I was a full stack gold (all 28k) and we got seeded with full diamond and ruby earlier this game sucks with it

[modest nexus]

Yeah that's just how Finals goes

[untold bobcat]

6th place -700 rs take it or leave it

[inland turret]

yeah its terrible game design

[chilly holly]

This ranked system sucks

[modest nexus]

Hell it's promoted by June and Scotty even if they don't directly mention third partying

[noble lily]

it really does

[alpine stump]

pretty much but atleast I get to just play whatever I want in point break which is very fun for me

[untold bobcat]

It does not respect player's time AT ALL

[noble lily]

theres worse ones out there but that doesnt mean its good

[jagged peak]

real, i dont think a silver player should be able to fight a diamond lol, if they made it so the players you fought were closer to ur skill level but the q times were longer i would take it personally, quality over quantity in my opnion

[alpine stump]

the fact dats even possible is a PROBLEM in of itself

[untold bobcat]

Honestly the rank population is so dead that it's hard to do