⚡┇the-finals-chat

[amber gate]

https://tenor.com/view/67-six-seven-void-purple-skeleton-gif-11619761405114423038

[urban scaffold]

🦅

[dull charm]

Funny enough regarding that aspect, I'm Vegetarian. My coach always would harp on the red meats for muscles, but I made do with being vegetarian because it made me watch my natural proteins a lot more than the animal proteins.

As for coop training, typically just gotta find someone at your level and make it your goal to grow with them in a competitive way, helps both of you if you know that youre each going to fight each other with all you got and no emotion tied to it, just purely doing it to get better.

[haughty gale]

ok but have u ever had a 50oz tomahawk steak tho

[timid peak]

servers down?

[covert flax]

OH

[errant prairie]

You scared them off

[sour sphinx]

embark u good?

[latent leaf]

servers down?

[amber gate]

they couldnt haandle your aura

[timber path]

same happening here lmao

[manic anchor]

OOOOOO OKAY BET. Yes sir

[covert flax]

the servers took an INSANE shit

[misty falcon]

same too

[soft rain]

[haughty gale]

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

[errant prairie]

What did you do to the servers

[dull charm]

50oz? Geezus, no I haven't. 😂 I've been vegetarian for basically 17 years now.

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/this-server-sucks-this-server-sucks-server-sucks-gif-20441118

[covert flax]

game works tho

[hasty kayak]

they just sneezed no worries

[royal torrent]

Server down?

[sterile musk]

Did thge servers die just now?

[hollow hornet]

no finals today 😭

[vivid linden]

My whole lobby gone but I’m still here

[soft rain]

just hold up

[misty falcon]

https://tenor.com/eioOgcOJkUr.gif

[smoky kestrel]

I swear to god I could not go without my pizza, and frankly everything my parents cook, its litteraly so good

[sterile musk]

Nvm, just saw the rest of the chat.

[random eagle]

Thats it 5000 m11 buffs

[haughty gale]

yea but until you've had 50oz of juicy meat in ur mouth u arent living

[fluid schooner]

Neat, i left the game at the good time

[hasty kayak]

thank you marshall for working even off the clock

[narrow solstice]

servers died?

[urban scaffold]

yes

[random eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-perms-discord-gif-discord-permissions-no-perms-gif-19575106

[narrow solstice]

good cuz random team was throwing a ranked match

[dull charm]

I still have pizza, I'm not vegan.

[fleet sparrow]

server dead?

[covert flax]

uh

[urban scaffold]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[haughty gale]

folk 😭

[smoky kestrel]

oh right, just no meat right?

[lavish adder]

why is it that you wear socks with sandals but no socks with shoes (in the finals)

[edgy python]

Think i genuinely need to uninstall this game before i break something

[dull charm]

Correct

[narrow solstice]

I DONT WANT TO WAIT FOR OTHER CONTESTANTS TO CONNECT!!!!!!

[tranquil valve]

This could be us rn

[sterile musk]

Literally my entire team disconnected, but the enemy in the final round did not and could cash in both boxes...

[hasty kayak]

Quantavious Eugene the III i saw you in game the other day

[dim ocean]

not just yall

[smoky kestrel]

😋

[leaden basalt]

nothing makes me feel old like the Olympics, and I'm young

[dull charm]

Caboose.. what is it this time..? 😆

[manic wagon]

are the servers down ?

[manic anchor]

It could, distance exists tho.

[fluid schooner]

Vegetarian - can eat food produced by other animals still, but not meat ( or something)

[random eagle]

Was i a big black guy that may or may not have thrown your game?

[manic anchor]

Woah honey… let’s breathe.

[hasty kayak]

i think so

[smoky kestrel]

Ty for explaining ^^

[edgy python]

Going 0-6 today in cashout I’m just unable to win or perform

[haughty gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1460536653536952385/200_6.gif

[manic anchor]

Everyone has an off day. Give yourself a break.

[dull charm]

Sounds like you forgot to pop and pour first.

[hasty kayak]

hit some kovaaks today young blood gotta train that aim

[haughty gale]

https://tenor.com/view/me-watching-this-stupid-server-gif-12407571647688628018

[edgy python]

I’m getting shot before I can react, my aim is fine

[urban scaffold]

RAHHHHHHHHHHH

[fluid schooner]

If it's true, give me clip

[oblique bobcat]

You meant dumb* instead of freaky

[hasty kayak]

hm hit some meditation and open up that 3rd eye young blood be aware of your surroundings

[strange lily]

Shit game lost 1k points because shit servers BRRRR

[urban scaffold]

nuh uh

[dull charm]

This sounds like a positioning issue, which wouldn't surprise me considering the fact that we had that issue when I was watching you

[haughty gale]

cant wait till asus makes a 360 monitor that turns ur chair and for u whenever ur getting shot from behind

[oblique bobcat]

I know a piano fell on you like a looney tune skit

[fluid schooner]

You didn't see what he typed 30 mins ago

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/daffy-duck-piano-flying-falling-down-looney-tunes-gif-11647869411154968346

[edgy python]

No I’m getting dove by lights and I just die

[fluid schooner]

My man is the epitome of freak

[oblique bobcat]

Idk which one so can you just idk ping it?

[dull charm]

Switch out barricade for dome

[edgy python]

I have

[manic anchor]

OHHHHH… I see now. That’s a valid issue to have.

[unreal kite]

Servers crashed, tried reconnecting 2 times, disconnected from server, got penalty 👽

[random eagle]

So i think WE all can agree that if we se a light main irl we are touching them mad aggresive right guys?

[fluid schooner]

Support ticket etc

[manic anchor]

That’s kinda gay

[hasty kayak]

gulp

[haughty gale]

Yes! 😂 ✌️ (im a light main)

[manic anchor]

GRAB YOUR MATTER GENTLEMEN

[manic anchor]

DB lights?

[fluid schooner]

Fuck db lights

[hasty kayak]

ew

[ember heron]

https://tenor.com/view/get-on-dbd-get-on-dead-by-daylight-dead-by-daylight-dbd-gif-11741513185320654907 tf

[haughty gale]

fuck flamethrower too, not that i constantly lose against it just annoying to go up against

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/xisx31-cap-lies-lying-capping-gif-13089098306084299451

[fluid schooner]

Too late

[manic anchor]

Personally I love fighting em. As a sniper main that is.

[ember heron]

https://tenor.com/view/laurel-and-hardy-gif-1350316672571164714

[edgy python]

Im tired of losing all day and I cannot seem to fix it

[haughty gale]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-what-are-you-talking-about-bruh-wolf-of-wall-street-nose-pinch-gif-2883543456073544458

[fluid schooner]

Welcome to power shift

[manic anchor]

Shrimply poke

[hasty kayak]

gotta take a break vro can’t keep playing on a loss streak like that

[haughty gale]

Yea this'll never happen but certain weapons do not need to be in powershift, sniper for one

[ember heron]

Dbd lights

[fluid schooner]

Skill check

[edgy python]

I haven’t won in like 3 days so you’re probably right

[manic anchor]

BUFF platform

[hidden ridge]

wtf yall need to eat more crayons

[haughty gale]

good one stove

[hasty kayak]

oh 💔 yeah maybe take some breathing room cause mentally i’d be so tilted

[fluid schooner]

We're not in destiny 2 server

[ember heron]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-obama-cartwheel-goodbye-chat-goodbyechat-gif-11045688346184983142

[hidden ridge]

healthy body healthy mind

[placid sorrel]

W embark keep killing your game !

[ember heron]

Wat

[haughty gale]

send another 2 billion to arc raiders next embark

[hasty kayak]

destiny 2 referenced i love spending $700 to buy all the DLCs 🔥

[haughty gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1439688589113032826/1469920870217678996/IMG_0118.gif

[placid sorrel]

they are dog shit balancing and optimize their game

[fluid schooner]

Gotta love to use dagger against them

[edgy python]

I have uninstalled it off the Xbox I need a break

[urban scaffold]

i love the reference

[haughty gale]

daggers not even that bad of a weapon i see a lot of people complaining about it but i think its pretty balanced imo

[fluid schooner]

Dlcs? I call it base game

[hasty kayak]

bungie killed their game when they made it pay to play every DLC

[ember heron]

"oh no my gun deal 2 less damage how will I get by! I can't learn to Adapt! Wah wah!"

That's how y'all sound

[hidden ridge]

thank you ceo

[haughty gale]

i also think a lot of people see streamers like neon pull off crazy clips with a dagger and are lil more biased cause of that imo

[placid sorrel]

???? repeater 2 shots everyone, bfr too, db too, bow too wdym bro

[fluid schooner]

It's a niche playstyle weapon, can't say it's bad

[ember heron]

As I said, can't adapt

[placid sorrel]

servers gets ddos every 2 days bro, matchmaking is so fking broken

[ember heron]

Not true

[hasty kayak]

how it feels to discuss balancing in finalschat

[placid sorrel]

you just dumb

[fluid schooner]

Are you light

[haughty gale]

most melee weapons are countered easily by people with good aim. only useful in chaotic situations where there's multiple people. (at least in gamemodes like cashout)

[hidden ridge]

cope

[placid sorrel]

playing heavy since beta the game is just dead

[urban scaffold]

im crine😭

[ember heron]

Ah yes, the 100% guarantee Escape card

[hasty kayak]

this and #👂┇game-feedback is what this feels like

[fluid root]

Apologies if this gets asked a lot, but when does the next set of weeklies come out?

[smoky kestrel]

Thursday

[placid sorrel]

you know im right, the game can't continue with the dumbest meta ever bro, you are delusionnal

[fluid schooner]

Dual blades are only countered by 2 players or aoe damage

[fluid root]

Appreciate you 🙏

[covert flax]

dude

[hidden ridge]

you sound like you have a 2.1 gpa

[ember heron]

Bro tf you talking about. Chat???

[covert flax]

BECAUSE THE SERVERS BROKE I HAD MY FIRST FULL FRIENDLY LOBBY

[smoky kestrel]

White roles

[urban scaffold]

worst takes ever are created on #👂┇game-feedback 💔

[fluid root]

They're annoying, but they're also not very hard to outpace

[fluid schooner]

Arc raiders type shi

[covert flax]

yeah right!

[placid sorrel]

i just lost 900 pts because i left the game cause of the crash, W EMBARK

[urban scaffold]

green roles🫡

[hasty kayak]

game feedback is land of the stupid home of the ill

[smoky kestrel]

🫡

[placid sorrel]

im employed pal

[fluid schooner]

Support ticket and you good

[covert flax]

I have like
a ton of gemerald clip potential now

[haughty gale]

"most" lol. I do think dual blades is in a weird state, theres times where its utterly broken and times where its utterly useless

[hidden ridge]

message support, they will give your shit back

[placid sorrel]

just fix the game

[hidden ridge]

goddamn stop complaining, are you 14?

[smoky kestrel]

"Embark I hate you for getting ddossed"

[cold walrus]

Repeater is an outlier in terms of balance and definitely needs to be nerfed, though the weapon would become near useless at most levels if nerfed to be mid-tier at higher levels of play, so it's a harder position for Embark to be in than most people realise

BFR has a small ammo count and is slow to use, definitely weaker in this more shield-dominant meta. Still strong, but not OP

DB has no range and any remotely decent team can obliterate a DB player's bloodline

Bow is a solid weapon but CERTAINLY not OP LMFAO

[urban scaffold]

[wheat thicket]

how about fix ur pc?

[twilit gyro]

Hi

[fluid schooner]

It's not their fault that the server fell, it can happen to any game

[ember heron]

That old???!

[urban scaffold]

hi twin

[heady sapphire]

They said if no one buys it will drop to 500 so I'll wait

[edgy python]

Discord is implementing age verification next month 😭🙏🏻

[placid sorrel]

the game is just dead over all bro wdym

[heady sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158156942347350156/1470536360208105758/616fcb33-7024-4417-9144-f55d36e7df79.mp4?ex=698ba735&is=698a55b5&hm=6f1828b525c1770799e444a580deb34ba0d3a39f8d6eb46604583b0a5c55d4cd&
Felt a Disturbance in the force

[placid sorrel]

it happen everytime bro

[smoky kestrel]

😔 ✌️ 🤡

[haughty gale]

ur just baiting atp and its sad that people are falling for it

[green aurora]

That was mad weird

[fluid schooner]

What.

[hidden ridge]

i cant stand to read that karne guy anymore lmfao

[cold walrus]

the game has incredible player retention and a healthy playerbase 😭

[urban scaffold]

healthy...

[smoky kestrel]

Yeah I was about to hit that block buton too XD

[heady sapphire]

Stagnant Wata

[fluid schooner]

Healty...

[haughty gale]

I think this is honestly a good thing but they're definetly gonna go the roblox route and make it easily bypassable unfortunately

[manic anchor]

Helty…

[placid sorrel]

gettin poke accross the map by all these weapon (not db ofc) its just annoying, getting -150 with one shot is ridiculous, tap tap meta is cringe and skill less

[urban scaffold]

dont diss me for not knowing English 💔

[hasty kayak]

i think the playerbase volume hasn’t really changed since like 3 months after release

[fluid root]

Assuming like many others, I've been playing since December of 2023, and the amount of times I've heard people say The Finals is "dead" is crazy
Let me point you at Splitgate numbers and then come back to me about "dead games"...

[fluid schooner]

[edgy python]

I fucking hate the eu censorship movement 🗣

[placid sorrel]

having a playerbase doesn't mean that the game is in good state lmao

[covert flax]

so, the game started like normal

[haughty gale]

The Finals is not dead 😭 anyone who thinks it is has never played an actual "dead" game lmao

[placid sorrel]

it's not

[amber gate]

not specific to the finals but i am trying to actually learn the recoil paatterns for the guns i use most and i always find myself either over or under compensating, what do

[cold walrus]

clearly bait at this point

[desert stratus]

my god why do people 3 stack in tdm games i dont understand

[edgy python]

Idk bro warm ups?

[haughty gale]

focus on one weapon at a time, each weapon's pattern is different

[fluid schooner]

Continue to practice still

[cold walrus]

warming up for ranked or are just chilling trying to play a casual mode as a group of friends

[fluid root]

emphasize the team in team deathmatch

[desert stratus]

hardcomming in tdm isnt chilling lol

[green aurora]

Yeah, that was me at the end xD

[cold walrus]

that's what the "or" in my message is for

[desert stratus]

i love being cancered on by dia stacks

[cold walrus]

I do think warming up in TDM of all modes is a little goofy though, H2H is perfect for warming up

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepycatesb-gif-27300122

[cold walrus]

anyway back to the long ass message I was typing about how Embark should change the ranked reward system to match Rocket League's more

[haughty gale]

even point break is arguably better to warm up in then tdm

[fluid schooner]

I'm not a fan of h2h, least favorite

[haughty gale]

^ remove h2h and bring back bank it

[covert flax]

then, shit broke and FAST

[fluid schooner]

Bank it returns soon btw

[hasty kayak]

god forbid someone wants to have a little fun and whimsy with friends in some TDM

[fluid root]

https://tenor.com/bzPnF.gif

[haughty gale]

i heard that, so its not a rumor?

[fluid schooner]

Nope, it was even teased by embark

[harsh dome]

i think we should host a hunger game type game irl for all bronze-gold players in the finals and only the winners get to move to plat. but if they drop out of plat they get instantly scarificed to Embark so embark can make the game better fr fr

[cold walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTfqwZXGv5g

[old hare]

in world tour points, it saays i'm Silver 3, 863 but whenever i view the rewards im on gold?

[haughty gale]

yea i saw the teaser but all i saw were people in the comments speculating it. not an actual confirmation

[cold walrus]

send screenshots

[old hare]

can't, too low level or smth

[fluid schooner]

Do you check ranked or in other gamemode

[desert stratus]

godforbid not putting abysmal sbmm in casual modes

[cold walrus]

That's a Bank It deposit box with the depositing sound and a message at the end that says "DON'T DROP IT" at the end, it's very clearly Bank it

[tranquil valve]

Make all players under plat wear haptic suits so they feel my sledgehammer going through their actual cranium

[ember heron]

Ngl i think this map is too much. It's beautiful, but there's just a LOT.

[harsh dome]

LMAO phantom suits 😭

[cold walrus]

casual has almost no SBMM, as it should be

[haughty gale]

i havent played it since season 5 to be fair, but im happy its coming back

[green aurora]

Lmao you got it on tape, I was standing next to Orange when it happened, we both just stopped shooting and stared at each other like wtf

[old hare]

ranked score would say rank score, not world tour. Where do i ssend screenshtos for proof?

[fluid schooner]

[round ore]

Any tips for me I still haven’t gotten a win in cash out

[tranquil valve]

Sledgehammer

[desert stratus]

very blatantly the matchmaking is bad stop coping

[round ore]

Ok

[cold walrus]

863 WP, right?

[fluid schooner]

You reminded me when both players miss shots on each other and in silent agreement just walk away

[cold walrus]

Casual playlists have ALWAYS had minimal SBMM, it's not cope that's literally just how it is 😭

[old hare]

yeah

[haughty gale]

yea idk why people try to justify that sbmm shouldnt be in any gamemode outside of ranked

[cold walrus]

That's plat, not silver lol

[desert stratus]

yes diamond players are the average players playing this game every game surely

[old hare]

ohhhh

[light phoenix]

So did I miss something or is cashball just gone now

[old hare]

sorry, looked silimar to silver so i was confused lol,

[haughty gale]

its kind of the reason why player counts have been stagnant for awhile tho. A lot of new players arent immediately jumping into ranked and get shit on by ruby/diamond players in casual. Not to mention smurfs 🤷‍♂️

[cold walrus]

like actually yes, the players that play this game more will tend to be online more often and at a higher skill level than the rest of the playerbase

[covert nest]

Was only up for the weekend

[fluid schooner]

Nope, it was limited

[desert stratus]

either youre bronze or a liar

[fluid schooner]

I'm bronze player

[light phoenix]

But it still shows "ends in 2 days and 12 hours"

[haughty gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379553494545076235/1411462672536309903/heist.gif

[smoky kestrel]

Wait cashball was only one week?

[cold walrus]

sure mate

[desert stratus]

so youre a liar

[cold walrus]

about what LMFAO

[dull charm]

Ive tried telling you earlier... if you want sbmm its in ranked, casual ain't got it.

[covert flax]

[haughty gale]

ay im with the pickle dude on this one, some of us just want decent teammates for some of the casual modes

[hasty kayak]

my favorite thing about higher ranks is when i get the same 30 people in my ranked lobbies over the span of 5 games

[smoky kestrel]

I would appreciate good SBMM at least in Cashout

[fluid schooner]

Before and after gems

[cold walrus]

alright NOW back to my super long message

[wooden kestrel]

Bro the arc server is more cooked than I thought, someone posting videos about cheats in the one media section and I don’t think the cooldown got any better

[covert flax]

I was gonna show clips in chronological order, but tbh, this one is VERY worth sharing

like wdym I can make a COMEDY SKIT with ZERO communication????

[haughty gale]

Yea, and idk why we're all acting like the matchmaking is perfect in ranked either lol

[desert stratus]

why do we lie

[covert flax]

tell me this isn't just a Family Guy cutaway gag

[smoky kestrel]

I can't speak on that since I always Q with stack but yea

[hasty kayak]

stuck on like 2min slowmode cause there’s too many people active in that server

[haughty gale]

yea i have a duo and we tried running ranked but the random we get is always hit or miss. especially when 99.9% of them dont have a mic

[wooden kestrel]

Yea that’s what I’m sayin too many ppl ruins it and its not even like there’s that many people to monitor here just let us have freedom when there’s lik 4 ppl like rn we don’t need the cooldown here

[ember heron]

now that's a nice enemy

[fluid schooner]

Can there be perfect matchmaking though? Don't all games have this problem?

[haughty gale]

gus?

[hasty kayak]

fr they should probably make some more overflow chats, way too many people for too little channels

[ember heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1470205575982743765/Quemby_Pc_Thumbs_up.gif

[desert stratus]

surely pc players are more common than console players (not btw) and surely diamond and above is the most common rank in the game apparently especially in casual modes surely

[haughty gale]

i find the finals to have a lot of smurfs which is frustrating

[desert stratus]

like why do we lie to ourselves here gentlemen

[smoky kestrel]

All I can say regarding matchmaking is I played standart cashout with my duo up until the start of this season and my 3rd random mate has always been an absolute catastrophy, 90% of the time the were wayyyy below us and below 10.000 kills, while he was at like 27K and I am at 35K-ish

[covert flax]

hold on, could this make it into a highlight reel?

[desert stratus]

surely 1.3k wins at 30k+ elims is an average player surely

[haughty gale]

we just stopped playing ranked cause our random would always be terrible. We only do WT now and we still face the same issue but we dont lose anything so we dont care as much. Its especially frustrating when our random end up going negative on light and decide to use their comms at the END of the game to call us trash lol

[desert stratus]

surely google is lying to me that there is sbmm in casual modes surely

[fluid schooner]

Copium

[covert flax]

YEAH
tbh if I had the looking around confused emote equipped that would've been perfect in this situation LMAO

[smoky kestrel]

Exactly my experience, without the giving up ranked part tho

[haughty gale]

to each their own 🤷‍♂️ we'll find our third one day

[covert flax]

that feeling when I realize the other two teams are friendlies

[fluid schooner]

I have to find 2 others.... Cause I'm soloq player

[haughty gale]

hmmmmmmm i might have a solution

[fluid schooner]

Problem though

[peak thistle]

hola chat

[fluid schooner]

I wanna talk in a specific language only

[haughty gale]

yea i only speak english lol

[peak thistle]

i do to

[covert flax]

"wait why they in two colors"

[fluid schooner]

You glitched 2 different team players, duh

[fluid schooner]

Or flashbanged idk

[covert flax]

yea
but like
the moment I realized that they were just there without gunfire I was like "OH THEY THOSE PEOPLE OOO"

[dull charm]

I 100% see more pc than console while queueing

[green aurora]

We had to team to stop you from taking the box hahahaha

[fluid schooner]

It's fascinating to see different teams vibe with each other

[covert flax]

this is the type of stuff you'd "only" see in ARC Raiders lmfao

[desert stratus]

i wonder why because sbmm isnt in the game so why arent you seeing more of the average console player dominated playerbase

[green aurora]

I wonder what happened to the 6 random other people that disappeared....

[manic anchor]

Fun fact: the model was once called the repeater and heavy used to have night vision in the beta

[desert stratus]

like lets not lie to ourselves here idk why we do that

[covert flax]

ohh, were you guarding the box, before I showed up and started to sound spam?

[covert flax]

"...I was one the high notes had"

[steady sapphire]

like when a new player can easily pick up cl40 and play it really well on less than 200 hours literally shows for how boring and unskillful the weapon is. now i've turned off cross play its much worse on controller.
Thank You Embark i love facing cl40s every game really cool.

[fluid schooner]

200 hours is a lot tbh

[covert flax]

idk how but I survived the servers skipping a beat

[green aurora]

Me and orange just emoted till both our teams arrived confused as to what we were doing, after a while your team started to open the box so we all ran over to guard it yeah xD

[fluid schooner]

Buy a lottery ticket

[covert flax]

and I'm goddamn glad I did

[covert flax]

oh right, we had just finished cashout 2, and we were gonna rush the box thinking the game was still on

we genuinely did not know what was happening on the other side of the map when we were cashing out LMAO

[glossy pier]

low IQ demat players need to be forced onto heal beam until they can prove they understand what a smart play is. Just had a demat player drop the cashbox two floors, run to 1v3 the enemy team, die, then prevent the rest of the team from being able to defend the cashbox

[covert flax]

it's like playing ARC Raiders and a corner of the map is having a dance party while one whole region is PvP exclusion zone

sometimes you do not know what is happening elsewhere
goes to show how much gunfire gives information to the whole map (in both ARC and THE FINALS)

[edgy lagoon]

I remember once there was a tdm match where the entire enemy team disconnected, we literally just danced and set eachother on fire

[covert flax]

ARC Raiders discord*

[ionic wraith]

Looking to play anyone down

[green aurora]

Yeah we were there for a solid couple minutes, luckily both our new teams just joined in haha

[smoky kestrel]

-lfg

[amber jacinth]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> LFG CHANNELS

Europe: #lfg-eu-casual • #lfg-eu-ranked

North America: #lfg-na-casual • #lfg-na-ranked

Asia: #lfg-asia-casual • #lfg-asia-ranked

Oceania: #lfg-oce-casual • #lfg-oce-ranked

South America: #lfg-sa-casual • #lfg-sa-ranked

Go to id:customize to show/hide specific channels.

[random eagle]

Yo can someone buy me arc raiders and ps plus please?

[lean hazel]

NGL attacking in Sys is kinda horrid, feels like I'm in D-Day at the last points

[smoky kestrel]

ask the Arc discord

[edgy lagoon]

Buy me a house and I will

[fluid schooner]

It's so good remembering that you DON'T NEED to buy ps plus to play online games when you're on oc

[burnt gulch]

reported

lol

[cold walrus]

it was even worse before the grand vault changes recently

[marble maple]

Denied.

[burnt gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-master-race-gaming-the-feels-gtx1080-gif-7941212

[random eagle]

😔

[burnt gulch]

dont beg man, its kinda pathetic ngl

[cold walrus]

anyway are people in the chat right now incapable of reading more than two sentences or should I post my mini essay of a message

[random eagle]

Wait... I JUST GOT PROMOTED!!!

[fluid schooner]

Drop it

[covert flax]

I love how the game ended where the first accidental standoff & teaming took place

[smoky kestrel]

Where'd u post it, ima read it

[fluid schooner]

I'll be skipping it after the drop (jk)

[cold walrus]

I got bored and wrote a three paragraph message on why Embark should change The Finals' reward system to be closer to Rocket League's reward system. Can't wait for the "I'm not reading allat" replies

TLDR: This would make ranks more accurate early in the season, promote more diamond level players to play beyond 40k RS other than hitting Ruby, would make boosting players for rewards harder, and make ranked rewards mean a player is actually at that skill level more than they got lucky and peaked at the bottom of that rank

The Finals' ranked rewards system should be like Rocket League's where player have to climb through the reward tiers instead of simply getting the rewards for reaching the rank. In Rocket League, players start at the bottom, receiving nothing at the end of the season regardless of their rank. As players win ranked games, they progress to the next reward tier, but only if they are at that next tier's rank or higher. A gold player can progress from bronze to silver to gold rewards, but cannot progress to platinum rewards until they win games while at platinum rank. If you derank before finishing a reward tier, your progress is kept and will continue to progress once you rank up again.

In The Finals, this both makes ranked rewards mean something more than simply hitting a peak (as a player has to maintain a rank long enough to hit that rank's rewards) and prevents the entire ranked ladder from being compressed early in the season, placing players much lower than they should be, making ranks incredibly inaccurate for a significant period of time at the start of every season. This would lead to another issue of barrier for Ruby skyrocketing as reasons progress, this could be fixed by limiting the max placement RS to 42500 (instead of the current 28500). This new system also encourages low diamond players to play more beyond barely touching the bottom of diamond, which is healthy for all ranks as high plat and diamond+ players will have more players playing at a time, leading to fewer high ranked players in gold/silver lobbies.

In Rocket League, players must win 10 games per reward tier to progress to the next. In The Finals, not only would this have to be reduced as even a single round of a ranked tournament lasts longer than an entire match of Rocket League (I propose something like 5 wins), the idea of a "win" in the context of this new rewards system would have to be changed too if we want progression to feel fair across all ranks. I propose that a win for ranked rewards should be counted as a tournament where RS isn't lost instead of simply qualifying to the next round or winning the final round. This makes progression fair as RS gain and loss is generally indicative of how the game expected you to perform in that tournament. A player will have to perform better than expected for the game to count it as a win (for the rewards system ONLY, I'm not proposing that this W/L system is used for actually tracking wins and losses.)

As a sidenote, this new rewards system shouldn't affect the ranked player card badge, as that's indicative of peak rank more than anything.

[hasty kayak]

you should throw this in #👂┇game-feedback they might delete this cause it’s too long 😭

[edgy lagoon]

I read allat

[cold walrus]

I'd be a little surprised, it's not really spam

but good call on throwing it in the feedback channel, forgot that was a thing

[hasty kayak]

yeah it’s just incredibly long and takes up a whole lotta space lol i also wann be able to read it without chat auto scrolling on me

[edgy lagoon]

lol

[cold walrus]

It's just so full of absolutely awful ideas I've removed it from memory

[steady sapphire]

not against 1800 hours

[elfin sky]

awww yeah, more rocket league goons in the chat

[edgy lagoon]

“Nerf dagger its op”

[ionic wraith]

Yoo you down ?

[smoky kestrel]

no. I was redirecting you to the right channel to search for people.

[cold walrus]

haven't played since they removed trading, but the ranked system and it's reward distribution is one of the best I've seen

[ionic wraith]

Bet thanks man

[fluid schooner]

[fluid schooner]

I read it fully

[cold walrus]

thoughts?

[smoky kestrel]

I like this, I also posted this a while ago. lmk what u think

[fluid schooner]

I have none, but i like what you said

So basically we need a qualification for the ranks, not just by tapping in one

[cold walrus]

Essentially, yeah. Basically a shorter ranked only WT progression where you can only progress if you're at that rank or higher

[cold walrus]

Idea sounds interesting, lemme look into it a little more

[green aurora]

Yeah that was hilarous, chasing around for the box

[fluid schooner]

I honestly would love to see higher ranked start placements if you placed higher than gold-plat in previous season

[cold walrus]

yeah, honestly the biggest reason I want the change, ruby players being forced down to gold 1 makes EVERYONE miserable

[fluid schooner]

It's something that gave me pain when i tried to rank up

[dull charm]

So basically s3 emerald requirements (which I liked)

[full badger]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-buzz-lightyear-skull-skull-emoji-dance-gif-75288921643871910

[smoky kestrel]

and the reason I want them in the ruby competition is so that high plats aren't misserable 24/7

[covert flax]

this is funny as shit

[slow dagger]

where update

[fluid schooner]

I remember i fell down to silver, though i still remember a guy saying i was too good to be in silver, kudos to him

[desert stratus]

thats deadass not a thing lol?

[cold walrus]

But for every rank and with a more lenient definition of a win, pretty much

[slow dagger]

update when

[desert stratus]

i feel like any ranked game should be like that

[lean hazel]

Dawg defending on Sys horizon is so free

[fluid schooner]

Max you can get is gold 1

[cold walrus]

highest placement is 28500, aka mid Gold 1

[desert stratus]

jesus christ

[fluid schooner]

Gonna find you and stab you with a dagger

[desert stratus]

so early season is miserable for anyone that was actual gold level player

[slow dagger]

bro i havent played this game in 1 month no update😭

[dull charm]

Ive said it before as well...

Current placements are Bronze 4 - Gold 1

If you placed in plat the last season your placements range should be
Silver 4 - Plat 3

And if youre in Diamond last season, your placements range should be
Gold 4 - Diamond 3

Giving a instant boost to the higher ranks player counts earlier on, and keeping ruby players out of gold at start of season.

[lean hazel]

Automatically would make you the best player on your team

[cold walrus]

for anyone that isn't a top player, yeah

[burnt gulch]

im bronze 2 gonna try and get to silver today

[dull charm]

Yes

[burnt gulch]

day 2 of comp

[dull charm]

Highest RS anyone can get right now out of placements is Gold 1, no matter prior rank or skill.

[fluid schooner]

it's weird when a dagger player gets the mvp tho

[desert stratus]

ngl i thought i placed that low only because it was the first rankup games we did with my team

[cold walrus]

The only issue I see with this is the fact that players can START the season in diamond, which would absolutely kill a large chunk of the ranked playerbase almost immediately, though I like the idea if merged with my ranked rewards system change

[lean hazel]

Hey, at least I know it's earned

[dull charm]

Right if they merged the two ideas to make you earn the rewards, it would work.

[fluid schooner]

That's what i thought of too

[elfin sky]

like you mentioned, if they needed to grind 50 wins to get diamond rewards it would be fine

[desert stratus]

theres like a very huge difference between someone that got diamond and gold 1 though lol i wouldnt place a diamond player that low

just a miserable ranked grind aswell it takes quite a few games to get back up to diamond if you place in what 27k something?

and lowest diamond is 40k?

[cold walrus]

with my proposition it would only be 25 wins to get diamond rewards, which is less than most diamond players will get a season anyway

[fluid schooner]

Try soloq

[full badger]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-buzz-lightyear-skull-skull-emoji-dance-gif-75288921643871910

[polar epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-buzz-lightyear-skull-skull-emoji-dance-gif-75288921643871910

[lean hazel]

Tru, plus you're stuck in limbo between having new players on your team and fighting against rubies

[elfin sky]

nah 10 wins/tier 😏

[desert stratus]

yeah nah i wouldnt play ranked in this game solo lol

[lean hazel]

It's been painful ngl

[desert stratus]

in any game for that matter tbh

[fluid schooner]

I use it when i feel goofy

[elfin sky]

but not full wins, just round wins imo

[cold walrus]

a single round of a tournament is longer than a Rocket League match 😭

[lean hazel]

Dagger is fun... when I'm winning with it at least

[smoky kestrel]

Do u play a lot of RL?

[fluid schooner]

It gives me a dopamine rush when i kill someone

[cold walrus]

read the third paragraph in my message

[desert stratus]

whats the max tournament time anyway

[elfin sky]

i cant read 😄

[lean hazel]

I think to myself "why tf am i playing this garbage" then boom I get a backstab lmao

[cold walrus]

used to until they killed trading

[smoky kestrel]

mh, so you prob also can't helop me with my issue

[daring current]

how you doin fellow kids

[solemn roost]

dagger is very cool but it sucks poopoo

[elfin sky]

whats goin on

[desert stratus]

they should give performance based rs extra if you hard snowball wins in ranked tbh

[fluid schooner]

Type shi (i sent it before, ik)

[lean hazel]

Still better than medium's melees

[covert flax]

https://tenor.com/view/james-lee-mlfiresoul-nox-dopamine-man-dopamine-gif-6677111762707789299

[desert stratus]

would make ranking faster for diamonds

[cold walrus]

I think like 42 minutes if you ignore loading screens and queue times

[covert flax]

INSANE dopamine the moment that happens for the first time

[solemn roost]

nah not at all

[desert stratus]

with or without overtimes?

[lean hazel]

Yes at all

[cold walrus]

with

[smoky kestrel]

Every single controller I connect I have stick drift on the right stick in game. It litteraly cannot be the controller because it does that with all 3 controllers and only in rocket league, I litteraly can't play normally

[elfin sky]

sounds like the cable or a deadzone setting

[desert stratus]

yeah nah thats an abysmal amount of hours you need to put in to get diamond thats sad tbh

[solemn roost]

medium still has team utility and their melees make them very durable but the counter to dagger is literally look at them and the light evaporates

[smoky kestrel]

One controller has a dongle. the other is a ps4 with cable, the last is a ps5 with USB C cable. same problem with all 3

[cold walrus]

That's the MAX tournament time, games typically last ~30 minutes if you have overtime in both cashout rounds and go to last box in the final round

[elfin sky]

are you using the same port on your machine each time?

[daring current]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-paws-gif-22060603

[desert stratus]

still quite a lot of hours unless you snowball to diamond and get like 1.6k+ rs every game

[fluid schooner]

Check the graph and see if the stick is actually moving without touching

[cold walrus]

I mean to be fair if you're a diamond level player you probably spend that much time on the game anyway, only about 10 hours of playing if you win every tournament

[smoky kestrel]

Graph?

[light folio]

When are we going to kill light mains

[graceful tinsel]

10h aint that much

[cold walrus]

I thought we already did

[light folio]

More.

[fluid schooner]

Idk how to call it differently

[graceful tinsel]

When the revolution happens orange role

[urban scaffold]

guh

[fluid schooner]

[graceful tinsel]

where did you learn that word?

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-cat-babby-slime-squish-gif-14494939531856206329

[lean hazel]

Light's mobility alone just makes it so you can play the game with the melee.
Medium's melee will never be good soley on the fact that you have no way to close the distance compared to heavy or light.
Thus making their melee's non threatening at best.

Yes staying with your team hard counters dagger but that also applies to all of medium's melee as well. Also in general

[graceful tinsel]

aww nvm then

[urban scaffold]

is this some secret code for you? can i join the cult🔥

[lean hazel]

Getting immediately one shot for looking the wrong way is way more threatening than playing cat and mouse with the slowly approaching riot shield or dual blades

Riot shield is at least decent. Dual blades are ass tho

[fluid schooner]

I'll still run away from dual blades, they're like wasps or mosquitoes

[cold walrus]

medium has pad and zip, but also their melee can block/deflect bullets

[solemn roost]

sword gives mobility so if we were talking about that i would agree, but dagger cant even keep up with a heavy while backstab is ready

[smoky kestrel]

I'll look into it next time, its super weird tho bc it only does that in rocket league, I tried other epic and steam games with all controllers and it doesnt do that in other games

[graceful tinsel]

No I was just wondering if you came from this community which was like the only place I've seen guh used before

[cold walrus]

you can maintain backstab while dashing and using grapple

[desert stratus]

abysmal tbh unless you have a very dedicated team

[urban scaffold]

and i thought 15 seconds was to much💔 people in arc cannot keep up with the convo

[fluid schooner]

Do you have anything else connected via usb?

[smoky kestrel]

a lot tbh

my mb backplate is litteraly "Someone's daughter"

[elfin sky]

try adjusting your deadzone, might be too sensitive and is picking something up that other games arent

[lean hazel]

Two gadgets that your enemy can also use to run around you without the medium being able to do anything.

Dash alone is leagues better
Winch/Goo and lockbolt also puts those to shame

[urban scaffold]

nah

[cold walrus]

I'm sorry but 10 hours per season is nothing for hitting a high level rank in any game 😭

[desert stratus]

my team like play the game max 2h a weekend together or something

[desert stratus]

over the duration of the season yes

[graceful tinsel]

there's an arc server?

[fluid schooner]

Don't forget Charge and slam

[lean hazel]

Could you elaborate more on "keep up with heavy?"

Cause yeah theres a movement penalty but obviously you're going to be using dash to close the distance

[cold walrus]

is that not what we're talking about?

[solemn roost]

yeah but with dagger you dont have enough to get in AND get out safely, plus you are squishuer than a healing orb

[lean hazel]

Yeah thats an option too but winch and goo are just much better for melee

[cedar frigate]

why wouldn’t there be

[desert stratus]

no i meant getting to dia fast

[cold walrus]

play cover, then

[urban scaffold]

yes

[desert stratus]

as in a short amount of time within the season

[cold walrus]

yeah 10 hours is fast 😭

[lean hazel]

Even taking into account backstab it's still easier for a light to escape compared to a medium

[solemn roost]

i mean without dash while charging the stab you walk slower than a heavy which feels wrong to me

[fluid schooner]

Running away from a dagger is a big no no

[lean hazel]

Ok but dash mostly alleviates that weakness.
Can't say the same for medium which has nothing

[steep raven]

Morning..

[lean hazel]

Literally what it wants lmao

[smoky kestrel]

hii

[fluid schooner]

True, it's like a piece of cake

[desert stratus]

thats assuming you win though you get like what 3x less elo if you get second place lol, 3 second places is like 1 win worth of elo, so like 1 1/2 hours extra if that

[solemn roost]

medium can often make do with pads, zip, goo and demat but in open areas any close range weapon will struggle

[full badger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1132893222776078409/1469889872528408576/speechmemified_pasteimage.gif

[solemn roost]

balright bro

[smoky kestrel]

As someone who showers too long and too often. this is really disgusting

[cold walrus]

even 30 hours a season isn't bad

[full badger]

the buble is above my name i know, thats why i send ts

[cold walrus]

what the fuck

[lean hazel]

Heres the issue though - pads and ziplines don't close the distance. Not to mention your enemy can just as easily use them against you and you're put into a standstill at best.

If you get winched or lockbolted for example thers a very high chance you're taking a bunch of damage with hammer/spear or just outright dead

And with light you aren't ever out running it

[fluid schooner]

I really need to go to sleep.... With that thought, I'll go now
Good night

[lean hazel]

G'night kind sir

[desert stratus]

if youre able to consistently get first 2nd place then yes

[urban scaffold]

good night twin

[cold walrus]

even 50 hours isn't unreasoanble

[desert stratus]

how longs a season

[cold walrus]

90 days, typically

I think season 3 was like 110 or something

[visual juniper]

this is wrong, its like half instead of 1/3

[covert dust]

1000 years

[lean hazel]

Ofc they made the worst season fucking 110 days

[solemn roost]

if you are put in a position where you need to rapidly close distance with any melee weapon (except possibly seord) you are probably cooked

[visual juniper]

I get 100 for 2nd and 200 for 1st usually

[urban scaffold]

1000 years of season 1

[graceful tinsel]

1000 years of nuke

[cold walrus]

they wanted the S4 preview event to line up with TwitchCon IIRC

[visual juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-noted-glorp-noted-glorp-noting-this-down-alien-cat-gif-11958671377507601335

[desert stratus]

half of winning?

[lean hazel]

Too vague of a response tbh. There are scenarios on top of scenarios where you would and wouldn't.

Either way point is medium melee will forever be bad until they have a distance closer which heavy and ligiht already do

[visual juniper]

what else would I be talking about lmao

[desert stratus]

maybe you get more rs the higher your rank idk

[cold walrus]

not even, closer to 2/3

[graceful tinsel]

I hope they bring back TA next season, third parties and griefing are ruining ranked (said the diamond player)

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-the-finals-game-finals-cl-40-the-finals-cl-40-gif-7434630383333094104

[graceful tinsel]

lol

[visual juniper]

not really

[desert stratus]

we havent played much after placements yet

[cold walrus]

TA would kill the game like it almost did before, third parties are a part of the mode and griefing isn't nearly as prevalent as it used to be

[visual juniper]

my 2nd place rs ranges from 70-110 and first place 180-220

[wooden kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-uno-meme-oof-big-gif-8789740406551729907

[desert stratus]

but usual ive seen is 1.6k rs+ per win and like 600rs something for second place

[cold walrus]

I've found that it typically fluctuates from 1/2 to 2/3

[covert dust]

[cold walrus]

the fuck? I usually see closer to 1600/1200

[desert stratus]

wtf

[solemn roost]

melee in general is weak but dagger is so inconsistent i cant justify it; the reason i prefer medium melees over it is because once you do close the distance you have some advantage whereas with dagger they have to be looking away from you (people are good enough to track you mid dash nowadays)

[covert dust]

Nuke can be back. Just make it a 1m blast radius

[stable bison]

Wait are throwing knives melee?

[visual juniper]

never

[old hare]

If i buy 'shoulder draw' for one weapon, will it go to other weapons too?

[desert stratus]

idk we were pretty shocked when we saw 600+ per 2nd place for a few games lol

[solemn roost]

...no, you throw them

[covert flax]

nope

[desert stratus]

unless you get more elo in plat for lower places

[old hare]

damn that sucks.

[stable bison]

I see…

[wooden kestrel]

No it says in the item name “throwing” they’re are ranged but very close range at that they’re slow projectiles and hard to hit

[cold walrus]

what rank are you?

[desert stratus]

or if higher difficulty gives more rs or something

[cold walrus]

oh so that's how that looks when you're ruby

[wooden kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-touch-grass-gif-24659299 wait dudes in socks ffs he don’t mean it. Who made this gif

[desert stratus]

27k something just finished placements and some games

[cold walrus]

the lower your TRS relative to the other team's TRS the more RS you gain

[desert stratus]

havent peaked yet so idk what max rank is

[visual juniper]

guess what

[desert stratus]

guessing

[visual juniper]

chicken butt

ggs get shit on

[desert stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-disappointed-sad-frustrated-facepalm-gif-17732698

[wooden kestrel]

Guess it

[hollow basalt]

no you throw them theyre ranged projectiles

[finite sail]

they ruined FCAR

[wooden kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-literally-just-said-that-thats-what-i-said-copy-cat-my-idea-stole-gif-14648615

[cold walrus]

it feels basically the same 😭

[hollow basalt]

i didnt read that far ahead

[visual juniper]

it feels the same icl

[wooden kestrel]

It’s slightly more forgiving and higher max damage per mag wdym

[desert stratus]

i wish for akm meta

[hollow basalt]

the firerate nerf was unneeded tbh they couldve just given it the +1 dmg and nothing else

[solemn roost]

remember the horrors of 25 damage fcar

[cold walrus]

never gonna happen, though the weapon will almost always be viable at most ranks

[wooden kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-poorly-educated-speech-acceptance-gif-12226220 learn to read

[visual juniper]

deagle meta when

[cold walrus]

20 round FCAR with recon

[desert stratus]

yeah its a good gun

[hollow basalt]

about 3 seasons ago

[visual juniper]

it was never meta back then either 😭

[solemn roost]

i thought deags were pretty popular at high levels

[cold walrus]

too inconsistent, though not unusable

[hollow basalt]

i miss when bfr didnt exist so there was a reason to run .50

[wooden kestrel]

Did they nerf it then? All I remember was a 2 meter range nerf in s8

[visual juniper]

Ive been maining them consistently on heavy but it just feels like bfr is better whenever I switch

[hollow basalt]

theres no point in using the .50 when the bfr exists

[desert stratus]

i saw bizzy scrim with deagles

[solemn roost]

bfr is juicy i love it

[wooden kestrel]

2x headshot multiplier and better reload/mag size? Bfr is unforgiving af

[desert stratus]

so prob is pretty strong still

[hollow basalt]

the bfr still does better damage and is better for poking

[edgy lagoon]

Yo did someone mention the 2nd most spammable weapon in tf?

[cold walrus]

yeah is it not pretty much just BFR and SA12 with some Lewis and Shak at higher ranks?

[hollow basalt]

specially since .50 got hit hard by range nerfs

[visual juniper]

the bloom is horrible

[desert stratus]

shak melts insanely

[cold walrus]

but has minimal range and a low mag size, amazing at single picks at close range, but mediocre at everything else

[desert stratus]

yeah i just played it i couldnt tell if the spread was insane or if the servers were burgers

[desert stratus]

fair tradeoff for a gun that melts that fast in cqc

[wooden kestrel]

“Better damage” the ttk is like a half second longer in headshots and a bit on the body the deags have much better potential and poking don’t matter if you have advantageous positioning

[old hare]

Why whenever i get a light that plays sniper, they dont have the brain capacity to scope in????

[solemn roost]

yeah it is literally just slower, less accurate LH1

[desert stratus]

id uninstall if it had strong range too lol

[wooden kestrel]

It’s really not until long long ranges and the hipfire is fine

[hollow basalt]

bloom is awful reload is worse and range is way way worse

[steep raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1331509914706907170/1399072964145578157/watermark.gif

[wooden kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

Saying the Reload on bfr being better than deagles is crazy

[hollow basalt]

im serious and its the reason you dont see .50 used anymore

[edgy lagoon]

guys give me 1 reason why light is meta

[hollow basalt]

it is better because loading 1 bullet is faster and thats all you need to shoot

[wooden kestrel]

Name one fast part about the bfr reload, you feed that thing more than a black hole

[visual juniper]

Im 50k with deagles, I PROMISE YOUUUU bfr is better

[solemn roost]

gateway zoomzoom?

[desert stratus]

ngl i dont see many heavies lately ingeneral compared to several months ago when i first played

[edgy lagoon]

But now only 50 m zoomzoom

[visual juniper]

unless im just shit at the game

[wooden kestrel]

You don’t need one more if you hit your shots to begin with but then again if you can hit all your shots deagles have better potential with headshots

[desert stratus]

usually like 1 team per game running double heavy or something

[solemn roost]

😔

[visual juniper]

hm? if anything I think theres more heavies

[hollow basalt]

if you can hit all your shots bfr is better because it has better range

[edgy lagoon]

: (

[desert stratus]

idk i havent played out of gold yet i see a lot of weird lineups tbh

[wooden kestrel]

wtf I can’t tell @solemn roost and @visual juniper apart ffs why are you two got similar pfps

[visual juniper]

my twin

[solemn roost]

trust the ruby player is just trash guys deags are good

[wooden kestrel]

I’m hardly ever taking fights beyond 30 meters

[visual juniper]

might be true

[hollow basalt]

wish i could say the same

[solemn roost]

💯

[sterile garnet]

most times I hope for the opposite

[solemn roost]

i like to take 100m+ fights with bow it makes brain go bzztbzzt

[wooden kestrel]

Deagles have so much better sustained damage you can kill a heavy in 3/4 of a second with headshots bfr is still at like a second or more and you use most of your mag even with headshots it’s so much worse in most circumstances

[sterile garnet]

its like the only way to play pike nowadays

only engage at long range and pray your target isnt bfr or repeater

[hollow basalt]

if you get monaco or kyoto as a .50 heavy and theres a heavy using bfr you may aswell just hand them the win honestly

[desert stratus]

yeah i find it hard to imagine playing bfr regularly tbh

you need very spacing centered fights with it

[hollow basalt]

i wish this was true i really do

[wooden kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/pike-pog-gif-24462567

[visual juniper]

in a poke meta btw, bfr just has better range

[hollow basalt]

sustained damage doesnt matter when youre poking out for less than half a second to do 2 or 3 times more damage with bfr over .50 while getting healed from 3 different sources

[visual juniper]

deagles are better in some situations but I think overall bfr is better for most situations

[hollow basalt]

at 40m+

[wooden kestrel]

Explain how having a reload that takes a total of 4 seconds to get full on bfr and only 3 seconds (empty not tactical reload) and having about twice the damage per mag(s) and better headshots ttk is worse?

[solemn roost]

just wait until they give heavy a 50bmg

[wooden kestrel]

Barret .50 bmg? More than one gun with that cartridge

[desert stratus]

poke meta is so insanely hard to approach with ars

[hollow basalt]

because it doesnt take 4 seconds you only need 1 bullet to outdamage the .50 heavy and you do way more damage over way longer distances ttk doesnt matter when you arent letting the other guy see you between shots at all anyway

[visual juniper]

give heavy a gun that does 350 dmg per shot

[wooden kestrel]

The browning automatic 50 bmg would go crazy on heavy tho

[hollow basalt]

also idk where youre getting that the ttk is better when the .50 has had some awful falloff since bfr was added meaning the bfr heavy can just outdamage you while standing completely still from across the map while you miss half of your bullets because of bloom

[solemn roost]

gm6 lynx would be cool

[wooden kestrel]

You can’t see them when they can’t see you if you duck or peek behind cover they can hide behind cover the same and one headshot on deagles is the same as a body shot on bfr and when your getting to that extreme of ranges nobody’s gonna win bc you can hide so much easier

[desert stratus]

played against a team with double repeaters and a flamethrower heavy with claw and boltlock gadget or something

[old hare]

minigun but it shoots mini nukes?

[errant prairie]

Deagles are better imo

[desert stratus]

idk i couldnt figure out how to approach them

[fierce frost]

people looking at raw ttk when people dont just hit 100% headshots in the actual game

[solemn roost]

skill issue

[wooden kestrel]

He hit one shot lol. Of course he loses

[hollow basalt]

yeah nobody wins that is the point of a poke meta its to shut down rhe engagement before it can even start lol

also you yourself are saying bfr does more on headshot and unlike .50 bfr is accurate so you are bound to hit more headshots

[desert stratus]

yeah pretty much

[hollow basalt]

the time it takes for .50 to do the damage the bfr does in a single shot is far more and you only need to shoot once before hiding

[wooden kestrel]

Deagles aren’t that inaccurate and so what if it’s more damage this is like argueijg with a toddler, more damage in one shot does not equate to dps

[visual juniper]

why we hiding names💔

[desert stratus]

head hitbox is pretty large in this game a good aimer probably lands quite a lot of headshots in this game

[hollow basalt]

no it does not equate to dps because dps doesnt matter in a poke meta am i arguing with someone playing the same game?

[errant prairie]

Old username I had and left behind so I don't want people to find me from here if they find out from that video

[solemn roost]

alright bro they are pretty damn innacurate especially if you shoot at max fire rate

[visual juniper]

yeah deagles do be hitting sometimes but bfr poke is js sm better in the current meta

[wooden kestrel]

I never play poke lol I dive or sustain why are we having this conversation they are different weapons with different use cases

[hollow basalt]

are you fucking standing on an open field with no cover no team no gadgets what are you trying to say dps doesnt fucling matter when the bfr bursts you down far faster than you burst them down with .50 while also having better range better hipfire and synergizing better with healbeam and infuser both of which have a 100% pickrate in the current meta

[desert stratus]

yeah you just cant really approach pokes well unless not and i cant figure out a way to it

[wooden kestrel]

The dispersion is literally fine at long ranges I never have problems with it. ekazo said that in his video about using the deagles as well and I think he’s better than me with them 👀

[hollow basalt]

i sustain
weird way to say "i lose"

[desert stratus]

got a headache trying to approach 2 headglitched repeaters

esp if you know spawn points you can put in so much damage before getting close to obj

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/adalfarus-who-ping-seal-who-ping-gif-4495073208851529899

[hollow basalt]

and diving atm gets shut down by poking
theres a reason everyone is playing long range

[urban scaffold]

hi twin

[wooden kestrel]

Hmm almost as if one cannot understand the concept of better dps and keeping the opponent from peeking

[wooden kestrel]

Since when am I your twin. I came out alone

[hollow basalt]

in casual and low elo matches this is probably a good argument but at higher levels poking outdamages and outranges any dps you can dish out so it doesnt matter

[solemn roost]

ok the brain damage is starting to set in

time to go play the game

[desert stratus]

unless you manage to make them give up their positions and make them cut off from eachother i cant imagine it being easy to win

[wooden kestrel]

And when you have winch or charge n slam nobody can hide enough to poke

[fierce frost]

haha. wrong

[hollow basalt]

they can, winch doesnt have the range to contest poking and charge is a joke

[somber kernel]

Is anyone else not able to matcmake in Super Cashball?

[desert stratus]

why would you play charge lol

[hollow basalt]

in fact one of the reasons poking is strong is because even if you do manage to dive the heavy can winch you anyway

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/vro-twins-cat-sillycat-gif-1670230978140696872

[fierce frost]

id love to see you winch a repeater m or bfr heavy whos sapping your hp away from the other side of kyoto

[desert stratus]

you wont even reach close enough properly to charge against poke

[hollow basalt]

you are genuinely better off running mesh if you want to counter poke

[wooden kestrel]

Charge is mainly anti melee and area denial it’s not your primary weapon

[hollow basalt]

thanks for the trivia

[desert stratus]

but you wont get close enough to charge them thats the issue

[visual juniper]

camping on pagoda 😭

[desert stratus]

you just cant properly approach poking

[hollow basalt]

people talk about campong on cliffside or lakemanor or pagoda in kyoto but camping with bfr on monaco church is a fucking devil's hell

[fierce frost]

real

[wooden kestrel]

If they’re poking behind cover so can I. You act like when you poke it automatically it invalidates any positioning I have which is bs bc I can hide just the same and take alternate routes

[hollow basalt]

ive done it on a lot of ranked matches and if they cant outpoke you its just free kills and money for your team

theres just nothing anyone can do specially if your team is listening

[visual juniper]

yeah that shit is cancer

[desert stratus]

right and a better poke weapon is bfr because it outputs more damage

[fickle kite]

they slimed out cashball 💔

[desert stratus]

youll be out dpsd against headglitched bfr with deagles

[hollow basalt]

also bfr sniping on that one side in fortune stadium
you know the one

[fierce frost]

the bottleneck

[hollow basalt]

genuinely almost as bad as old seoul bridge

[fierce frost]

pushing seoul bridge is brazen bull levels of torture

[desert stratus]

so legit the only thing you can do at best is counter poke but that also just stretches fights like crazy

[wooden kestrel]

Hmm lemme see, deagles have a 3/4 second ttk on heavies with deagles and bfr has about a second or a bit over. How exactly is that out dpsing me?

[granite field]

Charge is mainly anti melee unless the melee is sledge.

[paper monolith]

can someone hook me up with LFG eu casual

[wooden kestrel]

Idc

[wooden kestrel]

-lfg

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[fierce frost]

because bfr has better range its not rocket science

[visual juniper]

they dont have to peak for as long for burst dmg + better range

[hollow basalt]

seoul bridge against an HMM bfr 2x repeater team and your heavy is running charge and .50 what are you doing
hard mode: cant go afk

[wooden kestrel]

HOW DOE BETTER RANGE MATTER WHEN YOU RARELY TAKE ENGAGEMENTS BETWEEN MAX BFR/DEAGLE RANGE

[visual juniper]

lets not forget about the bloom either

[desert stratus]

better damage over distance and less spread? youre getting shot more consistently against bfr from range than against deagles from range

[fierce frost]

"rarely". lol

[hollow basalt]

youre constantly taking max range engagements and further that is the entire reason we are in a poke meta

and even if we werent the bfr heavy can poke you for 90 before you can hit him for 88 as a .50 heavy anyway

[wooden kestrel]

So just poking back and forth until their cashout runs out since you didn’t push? Makes sense

[fierce frost]

idk what game youre playing to be rarely taking max damage falloff engagements

[hollow basalt]

yes lets push when we're all at 40% hp why havent pro players thought of this

[desert stratus]

yes

[fierce frost]

team deatmatch one trick mentality

[errant prairie]

The magical Gateway in question:

[hollow basalt]

theres a reason hml is still arguably stronger and its because gateway allows the team to secure a cashbox fast and just defend it from across the map LOL

gateway is a must have no matter what for a reason

[fierce frost]

its almost like you have to run to where you want to throw your gateway first and take damage

[desert stratus]

thats countered aswell though, its predictable

[visual juniper]

light is gonna get bfr + repeater'd

[wooden kestrel]

And the enemy can go right through the same gateway. It’s like a ten second advantage

[ancient hatch]

what are we arguing about today chat?

[urban scaffold]

hi twin

[visual juniper]

bfr vs deagles unfortunately

[fierce frost]

hi broski

[hollow basalt]

how are they gonna do that when theyre dead
do you fucking gateway the cashbox when the other team is alive

[dusty willow]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-89-bat-signal-batsignal-batman-batman-returns-gif-1346984829075453382

[granite field]

Y'all in open areas or something?

[vapid raven]

Are servers down? I can't even get into a game. Keeps waiting for other contestants to connect then gives me a session connect timeout. In school btw but it always works. Can't even enter a practice match

[safe merlin]

En este juego nadie habla español o un gringo que me adopte para jugar 😭

[wooden kestrel]

Ah yes the ever present kill>obj mentality

[visual juniper]

why we playin in school twin

[urban scaffold]

yo si hablo espanol💔

[ember heron]

This .SF2 i found sounds...familiar

[hollow basalt]

that is literally how this game works LOL you cant secure an objective without first killing the opponent

[desert stratus]

you wont get the obj if you arent alive lol

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-smooch-mwah-mwa-cat-gif-4525223581887336793

[ember heron]

Ah yes, Batman returns,. my favourite movie

[graceful tinsel]

would this work on NA?

[vapid raven]

I'm at work twin 🥀 . I get off in 30 and it's slow af in here. Just finished studying for a cert and answering calls so might as well

[fierce frost]

if you play modes other than tdm is then yeah

[desert stratus]

idk where people get the mentality that bot running to obj is better than killing off players

[wooden kestrel]

Yet your whole arguement is about staying alive and hiding. Lol

[visual juniper]

well the servers r fine so idk

[hollow basalt]

this irv guy is like those world tour lights that gateway the cashbox and dont help their team in the midfight and then wonder why the other team pushed and killed him and stole the cashout

[desert stratus]

battlefield players have the same mindset for some reason

[hollow basalt]

correct, to defend the objective
you do not spawn with the cashbox on your side

[safe merlin]

De dónde eres me adoptas para jugar

[dusty willow]

Because im bfrman

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/merica-bald-eagle-eagle-america-american-gif-2277187416326490184

[desert stratus]

not hiding, angle holding

[ember heron]

right

[urban scaffold]

manda dm

[hollow basalt]

and beford you try to argue "just win the midfight"
yea and then lose the cashbox push because you got outpoked and they dived you while you had less hp than them since atm poke weapons work well at all ranges anyway

[ember heron]

you're catman

[urban scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/pitcher56-my-beloved-album-shibuyakei-gif-3390863483487798285

[wooden kestrel]

if you wait to throw the gateway until youve fought and won then by that time the box will have been opened and just taking the box normally is just as fast bc te gateway aint been thrown and your still at the box

[hollow basalt]

oh god this guy really is like those world tour lights that just fucking gateway the box without helping their team in the midfight at all

[sterile gale]

weshhhhhhh

[desert stratus]

idk how they should even go about nerfing poke weapons tbh you cant really cut off their long range damage crazy much because thats what they were meant to do and its not like you can lower ttk cqc aswell

[wooden kestrel]

if you do that its the only way to actually get extra time in, if not then the gateway only makes your medium and heavy 5 seconds earlier

[hollow basalt]

so true twin respawn timers dont exist

you also dont move faster as a light making it easier to get closer to the cashbox woth gateway because the cashbox is not gonna be on a straight line

[fierce frost]

u can nerf close range ttk tho

[wooden kestrel]

yea its as if 5 seconds is less than 20 and having to run halfway accross the map when you spawn doesnt give enough time

[desert stratus]

it wouldnt make sense to

[lean hazel]

Late response sorry didn't see your reply.
Even if a medium closes the distance you can still escape, both of the dps for the medium melees aren't that impressive.

When you close the distance with medium they take some damage with dagger they're dead.

Dash alone makes any melee on light better

[wooden kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384 "dont move faster as a light" wtf bro

[fierce frost]

yes it would?

[desert stratus]

in what way would you nerf it

[hollow basalt]

so true now tell me why people at high level are running hml with infuser gateway glitch and why repeater is always used and bfr is seeing a lot of use

[fierce frost]

nerf close range damage keep long range damage the same or nerf slightly

[white light]

[desert stratus]

that doesnt make sense though

[fierce frost]

why

[hollow basalt]

or why people were dropping hml for hhm before the last patch and why repeater was always in the team comp

[urban scaffold]

yo irv how are you already green gah damn i remeber when you joined. it was like 3 weeks ago😭

[wooden kestrel]

if thats the case then why is everybody saying that close range is bad

[desert stratus]

because that only gives more reason to poke lol

[wooden kestrel]

no i joined like 4 months ago i left and rejoined a few times why do ppl keep saying this

[desert stratus]

idk backwards damage drop off is weird imo

[hollow basalt]

its... sarcasm

[fierce frost]

the problem with poke weapons isnt the poke its that they are on par or outperform dueling weapons in close range so theres no reason to pick them. they dont have a downside

[hollow basalt]

thats only true for repeater tbh

[wooden kestrel]

sarcasm doesnt belong in an arguement and its the internet, you cant express any kind of gestures or facial expressions that hint at such a thing

[hollow basalt]

a lot of heavy's weapons do outperform bfr and lewis at close range

[desert stratus]

yeah i wouldnt nerf cqc damage on bfr

[fierce frost]

i guess youre basically right i was thinking of repeater primarily

[hollow basalt]

the issue is that you just do too much at range while also being decent closer up

[desert stratus]

if youre going to nerf cqc ttk you should change damage drop off aswell

[urban scaffold]

because you yapp a lot my guy😭

[desert stratus]

idk having x damage upclose and y damage on drop off makes more sense than y damage upclose and x damage on drop off

[hollow basalt]

it means you are both injuring the enemy before they close in AND you still do well close range anyway even if they can walk through all your poking

the repeater is just straight up better at all ranges than the rest of m's arsenal though no argument there

[wooden kestrel]

i guess, its a massive waste of time tho, go spend 2 hours argueing with adults about a game when i have better uses of my time and so do they

[fierce frost]

u know close range damage doesnt have to be lower than long range damage

it can be just slightly higher with minimal damage loss at range

[desert stratus]

oh i thought you meant exclusively nerfing just cqc ttk

[hollow basalt]

as i said if you can tell us why people at high level are all playing poke and not dive or sustain thatd be helpful

[urban scaffold]

but you play the finals right?

[fierce frost]

i mean say you have a gun that deals 50 up close and 20 at range

u can make it 30 up close and 20 at range what's the problem with that lol

[wooden kestrel]

im not at high elo so how is this relevant do me stupid, i dont play ranked

[hollow basalt]

i dont play ranked
it shows

[desert stratus]

yeah aslong as its lower than drop off it makes sense

[hollow basalt]

otherwise you wouldnt be trying to argue that .50 can outperform bfr in any way

[fierce frost]

then you dont have a say in the meta discussion because you play at a casual level where you can make anything work

[wooden kestrel]

yea bc i dont take the game so seriously like its my entire life unlike you apparently, go touch grass, meet somebody irl instead of some meaningless relationships with ppl you cant see

[fierce frost]

youre the one who wanted to argue about this btw

[wooden kestrel]

and tell me why im running into rubies in tdm then?

[hollow basalt]

okay so if you yourself are aware that you dont understand this game as well as me why are you trying to argue about it with me

[desert stratus]

you can take a hobby seriously and do all that though lol

[covert marsh]

A) poke weapons are broken
B) dive weapons dont exist outside of the class with the weakest gadgets
C) sustain is part of poke

[fierce frost]

earlier i joked about you being a tdm one trick but its actually real lol

[sacred island]

psa: play the damn OBJ

[dire ledge]

yall having a good time

[hollow basalt]

i know i was just trying to get this guy to admit he doesnt know what hes talking about instead of getting angry that people are telling him hes wrong

[desert stratus]

give heavies 650hp to counter poke

[covert marsh]

I think brawl is the healthiest meta trust

[raven cobalt]

Bring back Cashball you cowards

[fierce frost]

if you think that occasionally playing against a ruby in tdm gives you the proper expertise to weigh in on the gamemode which the balancing revoles around (cashout) then thats just funny

[covert marsh]

(Not model brawl tho that shit's basically dive I swear)

[wooden kestrel]

never said it did but yall were sayin im in a casual environment which is just false

[fierce frost]

you literally are

[hollow basalt]

he was trying to argue that using gateway to bring the cashbox to the cashout instead of helping your team in a midfight is a better use of gateway
i dont understand why people that dont even play the game at a decent level think they have a good grasp on balance

[wooden kestrel]

HOW IS AGAINST RUBIES A CASUAL ENVIRONMENT

[hollow basalt]

you yourself said you dont play ranked it is literally a casual environment

[fierce frost]

i faced a ruby in tdm which is a notoriously competitive gamemode you guys

[hollow basalt]

in tdm
so not even in a mode where you can argue theyre ruby anyway

[desert stratus]

not play the game competitively, meaning you are playing to play instead of playing to improve

[fierce frost]

not ranked = casual btw

[hollow basalt]

the ruby players (if they actually are ruby and not just rocking ruby badges from previous seasons) are probably just playing casually turning their brain off and not even playing what they play in their stacks

[desert stratus]

if you improve you understand the game more indepth meaning you grasp the games mechanics and balancing better

[hollow basalt]

not to mention how different tdm is from cashout altogether

[wooden kestrel]

so its no different than ranked bc im giong against the same kind of players

[simple mica]

God forbid Rubies play another gamemode that isn’t Ranked

[hollow basalt]

it is different than ranked because those players arent playing as if it was ranked and tdm doesnt play like ranked in the first place so it doesnt matter

[fierce frost]

are you trolling

[wooden kestrel]

yea bc they still havent imnplemented sbmm bc obviously casuals dont matter

[tiny heron]

This game doesn't feel like a first person shooter game anymore. It's more like "get smurfed and have no fun" kind of game

[hollow basalt]

no wonder you think you never take max range engagements if youre using tdm as a point of reference

[hollow basalt]

or maybe
its because its a casual gamemode

[desert stratus]

im pretty sure this game is sbmm heavy in casual mode

[simple mica]

Casual lives don’t matter fr

[fierce frost]

i didnt know this needs to be spelled out but cashout requires team strategy while tdm doesnt hope this helps

[wooden kestrel]

yours doesnt eitehr, get a job or be useless to society

[steady nymph]

You're sponsored by volpe you dont get a saying

[simple mica]

Everything would be fixed if melee weapons had 3rd person view

[steady acorn]

ono i peed a little you're making me laugh so much

[covert flax]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

[hollow basalt]

dude yoj are getting angry because youre being told youre wrong over the internet you cant tell people to get a life when you dont have one

[simple mica]

Alright brother I’m done for the month with this server

[sacred island]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1009237219216719902/1201942150166609950/DuyFSlUx.gif

[steady nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1101977993582235683/1396570316179767337/uncaption.gif

[white light]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sonic-freaky-rizz-wKJSRY2OgYx2m6R4oA

[desert stratus]

if you play any game that doesnt have sbmm its a night and day experience tbh

[covert flax]

[chilly holly]

@gleaming bridge

[simple mica]

I didn’t get a job I made it myself

[wooden kestrel]

the arguement is over something so subjective and subject to change that it entirely depends on the user

[simple mica]

You’re sponsored by Temu you don’t get a saying

[chilly holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314332001700024463/1457844182507982988/happycat.gif

[simple mica]

DUDE.

[covert flax]

SuddenRock mute this guy

[stuck goblet]

I feel like matchmaking is working just fine

[steady acorn]

SuddenRock what happened to your mod role hmm?

[desert stratus]

subjective to change maybe but its not currently subjective lol

[simple mica]

Aren’t you a mod or something KILL THAT GUY

[covert flax]

...wait.

[hollow basalt]

it isnt subjective at all
youre saying youre facing rubies in tdm therefore tdm isnt casual
but that doesnt add up because not only is there no way to check if thoae people are actually currently ruby, even if they are cashout doesnt play like tdm so their ranking doesnt matter
and this isnt even getting into why using it as a point of reference for balance discussion is dumb

[covert flax]

oh right he got fired.

[steady acorn]

he isnt a moderator anymore

wonder why

[wooden kestrel]

IT LITERALLY SHOWS THE PLAYER CARD WHEN YOU DIE AND PLAYER CARDS HAVE RUBY THINGS

[covert flax]

I sure do wonder.

[hollow basalt]

from previous seasons yes but not from current seasons

[steady acorn]

something tells me SuddenRock isnt telling us why

[warm cape]

noticed you can press N to watch your own statue even in ranked lmao

[chilly holly]

67

[hollow basalt]

if i put on a s3 ruby badge it genuinely doesnt matter it says nothing

[warm cape]

no more getting camped

[shut lodge]

Can console players play with pc players for comp?

[steady acorn]

maybe he is used to mod on reddit

[shut lodge]

or no crossplay for comp? like overwatch

[hollow basalt]

yes every mode has crossplay

[covert flax]

wait what
does that also work on quickplay

[fierce frost]

being a ruby doesnt matter in tdm because tdm isnt a competitve environment so youre not getting the same read on the person as you would in ranked

[shut lodge]

tyty

[desert stratus]

tdm is such a fuckfest of a mode tbh

[covert flax]

imo statue cam should be a thing in all modes

[fierce frost]

a ruby player plays tdm to warm up not to climb the ranks of tdm and stomp you casual players out

[steady acorn]

i dont trust a prior mod that isnt telling why he isnt modding anymore when asked. you dodgy fffffff. HAHA CANT MUTE MY ASS @chilly holly

[simple mica]

In TDM everyone is brainless so you can’t really predict their moves because they’re just so stupid they don’t make any sense

[covert flax]

kind of gives some tiny little value for accidentally dying in the middle of enemy traps

[wooden kestrel]

skill doesnt drop that much lol if someone was ruby last season then theyre still damn good on day one of the next. stop making your whole arguement that bfr is better bc poke, not every fight is the same and not all positioning is always perfect i can and will outdps a poker if im in an advantageous position and theyre not

[hollow basalt]

nah dude they just play it because they can turn their brain off too since its all just deathmatch

[desert stratus]

any pro player playing casually will still easily stomp any casual player at their casual play level tbf

[warm cape]

idk prolly bugged

[hollow basalt]

yes they are still good this is true
but it doesnt mean theyre ruby good
specially since people get better and better every season
not going to address the rest of your post because you yourself admitted you dont play the game therefore dont understand how fights in actual high level cashout work

[fierce frost]

that is basically true but cashout is where you can actually get shit on while youre still sure to get a couple of kills in tdm even on a ruby player

[chilly holly]

Are you sure

[covert marsh]

Competitive powershift scene exists :P

[steady acorn]

gulp 😳

[wooden kestrel]

"you yourself admitted you dont play the game" IM PLAYING RIGHT NOW WTF DO YOU MEAN

[simple mica]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[hollow basalt]

tdm isnt cashout bro

[wooden kestrel]

I PLAY MORE THAN TDM I NEVER SAID I ONLY PLAY TDM

[sonic mulch]

Berger

[fierce frost]

yes and powershift discussions are irrelevant to balancing since by powershift standards sr84 is fucking goated apparently

[desert stratus]

tdm is so random ingeneral tbh

[simple mica]

Teamkillberger

[strange current]

what if they made it so turret had slightly less health, but the longer it stays shooting someone, the more damage it does? capping out at like 8

[hollow basalt]

you literally said you dont play ranked tho?
you are literally admitting you dont know how the game plays at a competitive level?

[sonic mulch]

Phlqualberger

[simple mica]

Hotdurger

[reef garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-oscar-embark-oscar-oscar-embark-sledgehammer-gif-4323654607609200981

[sterile gale]

whatt where is pass the lounch patch note... ??? 🧐

[gusty magnet]

So cute

[gleaming bridge]

BILLY DOESNT KNOW THE BLOCK KEY HAHAHAHA

I got to play silver last night and holy shit is she fun to play

[wooden kestrel]

i play occasionally im not some ruby sweat wtf do you even care, stfu so i can enjoy the game like a normal person instead of argueing with some random idiot on discord of all sites

[gloomy glacier]

Chets

[sonic mulch]

Has anyone seen the bugs with lockbolt recently?

[acoustic plume]

Chets

[steady acorn]

this is a cookie

[sterile gale]

thansk for the wind guys...

[gleaming bridge]

what specifically?

[fierce frost]

u can play skrims of casual modes but its basically irrelevant since most players have no way to do that anyway you could play cashball competitively if you wanted to

[chilly holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314332001700024463/1457844182507982988/happycat.gif

[hollow basalt]

you are the one that stsrted the argument and continues to want to argue tho?
you literally said you dont play ranked at all why are u saying u do now?

u seem like a very abnormal person ngl irv

[simple mica]

Imagine being modless smh smh

[desert stratus]

cashball ranked would be abysmal dogshit

[covert marsh]

Sniper is ass in ps <3

[true nova]

Did you get deranked?

[fierce frost]

yes it would

[sonic mulch]

Connecting after the initial lock animation, reconnecting after glitch, its just been weird lately

[glossy pier]

Add a marksman mode to the turret. It only works for the center part of the cone (half the cone of the auto fire mode), and has a five second pause between modes. You switch modes by left clicking in the tablet.

[simple mica]

I’ll do you one better ranked terminal attack tutorial

[gleaming bridge]

wait didnt some mf say that arc raiders is getting furry stuff or smt