#⚡┇the-finals-chat
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This golden ticket? Or did you find a new one?
actually I think im been getting more crashes on fangwai than any other maps lmao
got griefed in
we misplayed the second cashout so you got away for free thanks to pink
Wait golden ticket? What's that about?
who are you stackin with
It's an Easter egg
yep
💀
I found one, but i wasn't sure what to do. All i could do was pick it up.
3v3 bracket style ranked when
The game pretty much telling you "You might as well pull up a movie."
Cashout
After the damned Windows Security Update i cant even open id embark page anymore
Can any CM help me
wtf is this shi
Yes, you're meant to find all 4, put them into the arcade machines, and then step on a manhole to activate the next level and spawn the new wave of tickets. The message I sent has the finalized map. Nothing crazy comes from it tho so 🤷♂️
Nah
I thought they didn't find everything yet
what do you need?
12 mans are supreme ass
Macro issue tbh
Because the arcade machines turn on. But isnt that as far as they got?
I need to make a ticket my account was hacked & stolen
-ask you can make a ticker here on this website
Reach our Support Team: Link
Please note you need to log in with your EmbarkID.
@atomic seal I'd like to make a ticket but the website denied my access
Forbidden 403
yes but on the enemy teams
i have like a whole ass paragraph as to why its horrible for specifically ranked

If my PlayStation account is linked and the person who stole my account steam is linked as well are my chances good of getting my account back? @atomic seal
It tells us the ticket hunt is completed. But I asked Rob "Is there more to the ticket hunt" and he said something like "Yes, you've only SCRATCHED the SURFACE.!" Which yeah nobody knows that that means. (That is just living rent free in my head btw Rob)
try using different connection/turn off VPN if it's on, or try using mobile devices. If all doesn't work, might have to try again later.
It's not horrible it's just kinda dumb in the low ranks
But like in bronze - gold you can basically 1v6 for free so who cares
thats the problem tho this game has no low ranks. its almost impossible to lose elo before plat, so 800 hour E1 flamer demons just eat shit and get griefed in to 35k ruining literally any match
cause they have zero teamplay, zero macro, zero mechanical skill
Well they changed it this season now each rank is actually real
Except they unintentionally made diamond kinda stupid dumb hard to hit and plat even more of an elo hell
2k gains
Bronze is tutorial rank lowkey it gets real in silver
😶
Anyone else watching algs champs?
silver is also like extremely free and gold is also extremely free
and so everyone is in plat queues from pro players to sub 1k elim players
embark hates people knowing they suck
I was getting the same gains in gold as I am in plat rn
Missed your ping. I wouldn't be able to confirm that, need to check with Support. 
And I've heard silver is similar
Alright all good thank u
yes the difference is that the players arent all shit, theres like 2 shitty teams and then 2 competent teams and the 2 shitty teams literally ruin the entire match for the 2 good ones
hi can i ask abt crash issues here idt its necessarily a bug wldnt go in #1201841543926005810
cashout is good casually and good competitively and with how finals is right now, horrible for a ranked mode
data reshapes your balls
Nuh uh
Maybe like 10% of the time do I get a match griefed by some idiot team
thats like 80% of my games
you can skim through the channel first to see if there's any similar cases - #bug-discussion also works. In other cases, would recommend checking with Support because we're not able to help you investigate further here on Discord.
Bro your macro is buns then
no
2 teams at 30k+ the other 2 at 3k (i am one of the 30k teams)
99% change you're losing cus of macro mistakes and not understanding spawns and where to go and all that shit
Alright thanks.
its literally just griefing
i lose one fight and so the other 30k+ team gets to remove my team from the match for free
all 3 teams playing against you cause you're in second
the game mode is just straight up bad as a ranked mode with how finals currently works
Idk this is mad cope. Just magically nobody at high ranks in this game is struggling with these issues only you at low ranks.
???
Man why can I break 6 rules and still not be banned smh
how can you say that and also say that diamond is hard to hit
I didn't say it's hard to hit it's just harder bruh
Plat is a much longer grind and requires more consistent placements
But being plat 4 vs plat 1 is like actually a difference now
Yes totally and completely serious message
Definitely 100% accurate to my real and actual thoughts
also not true like at all
Anyways I'm not here to babysit you so bye
nothing changes
nvm i just fix it by unplugging the router for like 10 minutes and replug back in
grapple players continue to absolutely shine in the iq department 🔥
What's your ign?
honestly, grapple feels like a tech you could only master in TF|2
+rep for signalis
yay
Maybe the finals 2 will have my long awaited grapple buff 😔
the deagles are kinda just inconsistent ngl
idk, grapple feels really good right now
i have played like 10 total ranked games this season (not counting placements)
yeah its sometimes but man
@queen bolt are you the same lizzybee I have added on the finals?
my infamous black dot of aiming
Apologies but Isn't that called your reticle
Yes
Apologies for the sarcasm, I thought it'll be funny
It's a pleasure to meet you
oh no its fine lmao
Also wtf just happened in algs champs
Falcons (Hal's team) just fumbled the win
For the whole thing
didnt realize i was so close
Holy shit
watch out The Finals, im getting on to go 2-16 in all my games.
Congrats 🪷
thanks gang
Dawf I dont get jt, WHY THE TDM ISNT LOADING FAST. IM WAITING 7 MINUTES WHILE IT SAYS "ESTIMATED 1 MINUTE". IS IT BECAUSE I LIVE IN OCEANIA 😭😭😭😭😭
I'm alr emerald (didnt play first month)
This ranked WT change is so good
ive been occupied by other games
I have been wanting to play rank but currently focused on other things atm, I hear it's more challenging
ima be fr, this thing feels more useful than dash
its ass
its especially good at jumping people when you learn to bhop
counter arguement: its grapple
I enjoy grappling as well, though I also play medium class
grapple and ass are interchangable in the english dictionary
well, bababooey
Apologies but why do you think that if I may ask
I'm like the best grapple player on this game, I support your mission but after like 600 hours on it, it's not good rn. I love it to death but it needs a buff
Also you're just scratching the surface of grapple movement
i again, think its good enough to use but not bad enough to need any serious buffs
Much to learn
the value you get every 8 seconds or whatever the cd is basically does not even compare to the 3 charges you get with dash
THOUGH, i will say im not against a buff
personally accumulative charge cooldowns were never fun for me, i get its a resource management game but its not for me
what lobbies are these
i wonder how long it would take me to get a max level mgl32
i know to pair it with gateway, so far, but i know nothing else about the tech
I really wish the cooldown was lower because jesus christ 8 seconds is too long when using it as mobility bait
its basically useless in a direct fight and once you use it for a reposition in downtime during a fight you dont get it probably again in that same fight unless more downtime somehow occurs
is this a peak pfp
You can use it pretty good to harass someome then immediately leave
It's viable but barely. It's like ultra mid
Apologies but there's value in everything and room for improvement, learning how to use such things, like the grapple just means you haven't figured your way of using it, learning it can grow your skills
yeah but you dont get value out of this really unless you kill someone which is unlikely since you have zero in combat mobility (cause no dash) and you dont have invis to get the jump on someone
i thought most people would know how to bhop considering its just continuing momentum
unless you mean people who use it while attacking then yeah thats considerably more difficult
its not about that, it literally does not give enough value no matter how you use it. if it was good there'd be comp players using it but not a single person even gives it any thought because it cannot give what is required for light
There's not that much tech as much as knowing how to move across all the different things. Like on Monaco if you want to go in a window, just latch onto the window and you can get a perfect line straight into it. You can even go through multiple buildings with this. Only real tech is just using some slope bugs
I've seen comp players use it
It's really good for securing kills, and also if you're using weapons like the sniper or lh1 it allows you to reposition next to teammates the moment you're being threatened. There's also the given of lightspeed plugs and easy cashbox stealing but thats not combat focused.
ah, so like trimping basically?
Huh
i noticed the Grapple also REALLY pairs well with the M26
TF2 game mechanic where going fast on a slope gets you a huge speed boost
I prefer the m11. Matter has such a large mag that I prefer dash
Plenty of random teammates and enemies, apologies I ain't trying to prove the grapple is the best that isn't my intention, though learning it in rank can be beneficial, learning things in a hard situation can lead or show you something you've never seen, that's my opinion anyway and how I learn
Grapple might give you more distance but it's not as good at repositioning as dash, at least when you're reacting to someone pushing you. You have to be very aware.
someone mentioned to me that anything is viable if you know how to use it right
ok sniper sucks and lh1 is just a waste with grapple cause dash just does all of it better
im not talking about like world tour man im saying like stick a bunch of really good players in a match and put one on grapple and they will underpreform even with like 300 hours on it
@atomic seal hey so my account that was hacked the guy unlinked my PlayStation account so now I don’t have an account to make a ticket from? What do I do
No you can basically trade all your speed to bounce straight up on a slope and get a bunch of height
oohhhh, okay
It's not very cool but sometimes minority useful
When I say a bunch of height I mean like a 3m bounce
aww yeah
Matter is much better with dash
Grapple is way better than dash for repositioning. It's the only on demand vertical mobility that doesn't have a large cooldown and doesn't leave something behind for enemies to also use to chase you.
comp players means competitive. like esport players. like grand major potential. and trust me, i HAVE given a lot of stuff in this game lots of thought. ive even tried thinking about how grapple could be helpful and what value it could bring. i have 3000 hours in this game 😭
you just dont get enough out of grapple no matter how its used
i think its stellar at repositioning given you get a nasty height delta from heavies or mediums, and enough speed to give you time to relocate effectively from a bouncepad or zipline, or gateway
When your opponents can aim you're just gonna get touched if they're anywhere near you when you grapple
Yeah that's a given because embark refuses to buff it for some reason.
yes so theres no argument that its even close to dash
you said it was really good at securing kills so i was just disproving
I get enough, but only barely
hi guys do u know is there a refund for costumes i bought one but i didnt like
grapple has a slow startup, predictable pathway, long cooldown for what it is, etc etc etc etc its just bad
GIVE ME 6 SECOND GRAPPLE OR GIVE ME DEATH
It is good at securing kills though? You can close the distance really fast
you cant
ow
Yes it's good for this.
Grapple is not good lol
how do you guys feel when you beg for your teammates not to cash but they cash anyway, creating double jeopardy, then you got eliminated when you're guaranteed to be in
yknow im suprised no one has used the vanishing bomb as a deception tactic
praying we get a change to the meta so its not this boring ass poke meta we've had for the past 2 seasons.
Grapple is a better space closer so if you position behind the enemy or on an off angle it's really good for getting back to your team for a good infuser
not at all. you secure the distance with a really loud movement option that lands you directly in the enemy team if they have more than 3 iq
it also pairs well with gateway, as i mentioned before
you can close some SERIOUS distance with your team
You should be grappling away before you drop to low health so even if they shoot at you you will survive. Also grapple trajectories are somewhat different than padding so people don't practice it as much.
again, im comparing its value in the scenario that the enemy team is GOOD. along with your own
You m should be giving you a pad to dash off of
gate pad 🙏
Dash beats grapple in basically any situation
Yeah I can push an 80 m gate onto height w/ grapple
never the case, my mediums never run pad
hey thats me
so you're arguing its value in like quick cash 😭
im a zipline medium anyways too so, lmao
Play w better players then idk lol
aye me too lmao
Bro when it's stn or stew or apollo or Grem on the other side of the screen believe me they're hitting ts
^^^^^
id rather just gurantee i can secure distance with my team solo than needing a pad dash
if your enemy is GOOD they will get the exact same value out of grapple but 10x more using dash
then you use grapple as a getaway. You secure a kill then immediately return to the rooftops before you get deleted by the other 2.
This really just a casual vs comp debate
Dash = boring basic ass meta 
Grapple = Chad
you dont get to do that. you try and take a light 1v1 without a single spec and you just lose
the option of using it as an escape shouldnt be possible
but everyone in here is just arguing their world tour experiences against dash
I've said it before but I'll say it again, if I picked up dash, mechanically I would cruise into ruby. In fact I'd be disappointed in myself if I didn't hit ruby. I only choose to play grapple cus I think it's a fun silly challenge. The fact of the matter is that grapple holds me back significantly
grapple is an INSANE getaway tool
It's complete ass in comparison to dash rn
And has been for the whole existence of this game
I play for fun, not for ruby
Thats a given
i could play turret with inverted mouse sens and play with my feet and still do fine in world tour
so why argue the actual value of something zro 😭
Embark's favourite child balancing philosophy is really AIDs
because i think the grapple is an underrated specialization??
i wish more people ran it because its actually really viable
it isnt though which is what im telling you
Problem with grapple is that it's hard limited by it's low skill ceiling
it seems viable because people suck ass at this game
It’s viable in low elo that’s it
I love it over dash. But dash is just better for fights sadly 
High elo your getting double dinked as soon as you try and grapple
playing for fun and arguing how good something is literally just counteracts everything
Replace underrated with overhated.
reason i never play ranked
try and grapple away from a light on arn in like a comp lobby and you just die
yknow, that sounds more accurate
casual player opinions are worth the same as like a single rupee is
again, i dont play comp
This is just not the case. Like you just get cooked if they can aim
so you saying something is good or viable or underrated is just like meaningless slop
bloons mentioned
green blimp of death
you have to realize all your beliefs are built on 40 year old 9/5 havers with 16 kids hopping on for a world tour match before they wither away from like alcohol poisoning
idk man
All they gotta do is take a dash charge away
and give it too.l grapple 
Nah, keep the 3 charges, remove the ability to reload in a dash
so many people try to argue the worth of something while having zero knowledge on the game and also enemies that are equivalent to ai
i play against diamonds in casual, gang
Nah kill it I wanna see them suffer 
keep speaking your yap buddy
as is your arguement
Diamonds aren’t comp
i think dash is as viable as grapple
??
because anything is good in the right hands
mgl32
i am currently not diamond and so where is any ego coming from in my statements
diamond is nothing
and I'm saying this as an mgl main
MGL players scare me
ranked in this game requires a 3 stack and 6 hours per day of playtime and you can hit ruby
its a weapon i havent mastered
I love using pyro mines as a crutch for doing no fucking damage
I'm pretty sure like 60% of my kills are from charge and spam
pyro mines are an easy goojf card for lights ngl
They just nerfed it
Anyone got setting in tryna use better ones than the ones I have now
what settings
classic embark curbstomping mediocre items because of even worse items existing.
Any sens graphics etc
I don't think a single person approved of the pyro mines nerf and preferred it over an explosive mine buff
dont use this crosshair
because its mine and i choose to master it
How are you supposed to unequip specific animations? Because I just don't have an option for it and it doesn't let me deselect the option if I clicked equip to all before.
double click it in the "customize" menu for the constestant loadout
You do it within the character editing, not through equipment tab
To be fair a large number of rubies are boosted or cheating themselves lol
Thank you ❤️ I have been trying so long to figure that out
ruby moment
only ruby player ive played and talked to who actually makes sense why they're ruby is Kaelwhale
Like 10%
gm chat
I think dash is way overrated and grapple way overhated but with Embark's shitty balancing grapple vs dash is not even close. It goes to dash every day. With 6 second grapple tho I'd be on demon time trust
You have to understand though ruby is still primarily a time commitment reward than any expression of skill
for sens try like 10 ingame, 1600 dpi to 22 ingame 1600 dpi, try all the numbers in that range and see what is best for you. around 15-16 is probably your best bet but its mostly personal preference
graphics should be all low
go into interface where you change your crosshair and turn off the setting called "in-world crosshair" it makes your crosshair move around a lot when you like mantle and stuff but its inaccurate to where you're actually shooting from
People see dash vs grapple like it could never flip
Which is just wrong
But it's not close rn
^^
playstation vs xbox arguement
Tysm
If you wanna prove you're good you gotta run it up in the comp scene
playstation takes it any day
they see the stats that like 2 people made it to diamond with grapple and think its somehow balanced
does he know.jpg
if you have any amount of mechanical skill in fps games with 2 other people like you and you play 4 hours per day you can hit ruby 100%
Sometimes I think I boost grapples stats too much and I should switch off and hope for a buff....
so, uh, why isnt that possible for most of the playerbase
didn't the korean team use grapple?
playstation vs xbox when steam machine will be the best pick by an entire landslide
i dunno if i have the mechanical skill, but i do play a decent amount although i soloq
They didn't play the same quals via the same format as the EU/NA teams
what class would you say can carry his own team
They're not going to buff it either way. Favourite child right now is dash and that means nothing is allowed to be better than it.
6 second cd is nice, but i think cooldown based on duration of use is also a lovely idea
light or heavy is your best bet for carrying
heavy is harder tho cause you cant get consistent movement
medium
No this just encourages the wrong kind of play style
this is true
Same with 2 grapple charges
okay, actually fair point
6 second CD would just be grapple but more
M is by far the worst class of you need to carry
or i at least think medium is the easiest to play in ranked
Which is what it needs
grapple needs to be faster for it to have any place above dash
otherwise u just get slimed
rank system is shit ngl
The real carry is hiring someone to boost you
It's fast enough you can basically get a free speed boost off a short little grapple by jumping out of it
i dropped from 21 k to 13k yesterday
me when i go into a dog shit opinions competition and i enter the finals chat
The issue with grapple is you can use it but if they're withing 20m of you as you grapple away they're gonna catch up
faster while grappling is what i mean
cause you can just get tracked for free
If they're good at all
pyro or frag?
You likely aren't living the 8 seconds to get a second grapple to safety
dumb idea but what if they like introduced a grapple slide
Neither, use an actual utility
Nah only bad players get tracked for free like you mean
Neither but if you really want to play one pyro
for M i use frag, pad, defib
eh, i see good distance gain with it
Use goo instead of frags
during the start of the grapple you have very little freedom of movement no?
if you grapple while sliding youll get a lot of momentum that curves around your opponent (idea)
i find it that frag helps me play more agressive i dont rly use goo but my other set is goo pad, defib
I mean if you start grapple below 150 you gotta work on your game sense ngl
You're getting beamed off that ngl
yes but thats why its worse than dash
i can still just, round the corner
Yes
dash is super annoying to go against in close range
you're using it like invis to get the jump on someone and guarentee a kill but shit just doesnt work like that
so it needs to be faster during the grapple to have any place above dash
you're gonna get a bunch of losers telling you to aim better btw
because then its useable outside of just repositioning to jump someone
its correct
aim labs IS infact free on steam
I mean the best dash players are burning 3 dashes cus they were unaware
let them come
Like it's not necessarily bad you need to have that game swnse
It's just more punishing
ive also just, never seen this happen to me, besides a guy aimbotting with the ARN-220 lmao
blatantly
if they take a fight or get jumped out of no where/shot from a random spot they have a 70% more likely chance of surviving than someone on grapple
Dash is just better because you can spam3 of them to basically get the same effect as grapple
ive seen way too many cheaters in ranked
and its not always the players fault
SEVEN SECONDS. SEVEN SECONDS IS ALL I NEED TO GRAPPLE BETTER.
sometimes you just get jumped
mb
footstep, pad, zip etc. audio gets masked over other shi
i knew it was you
Just watch a vid of like stew playing the finals or something and you'll get what I mean
dash needs a slight nerf but the hate is overblown LMAO like yeah some of it is actually aim but thats how dash is used
or you're grabbing intel but the team jumps you
Yep. Ts just can't happen at high elo tbh. Unless you're planning to lose.
yeah
you just have so many more options with dash since more charges and faster speed
whats the dash gonna do when hes lockolted
I agree w/ that
die
and winched
die
Just taking grapple to 6 seconds would make it so you can realistically live with 2 good grapples
winch is bs though
spam 3 of them to get away
and still cant get away
depending on the scenario yeah
Rather than grappling away and then having them just catch up with another pad or gate or something
You dash right after winch you can get away with any weapon 1 on 1 besides bfr
maybe if you grapple and cancel it early to mix up movement
might be good enough to survive certain scenarios
yeah
then you get a second one
The other thing 6 second grapple would do is open you up much more freedom to drop and then come back up in a fight
yeah
Gives it so much in fight survivability just in a different way to dash
you can escape and reposition which is what dash is good for
but now you get more value in your reposition quicker
If I drop early in a fight or I have to drop twice or something then I'm just out of the fight for 8 seconds
And that's complete cheeks
So many times I die or get caught because my grapple c ooldown was at like 85% but I can't use it
yeah
with dash you can use 2 to escape and have one left incase you need to take a fight
Yep
water strider mentality
having 10 second grapple cd but having 2 charges with a 2-3.5 second cd time in between would probably be best for grapple (also speed it up a bit)
6 second grapple (or maybe a more reasonable CD reduction number) would fix most of the issues with grapple. Still way harder than dash, still not really worth learning, still less consistent, but it'd at least be ruby/Esport viable atp imo
dash spamming is cancer but if dash isn't strong then winch will just make light unplayable
I wouldn't hate this tbh
you can enter and exit with grapple in that case
and if your positioning is good you wont need one to enter
why tf has it been smurf season this season?
so you use one to escape after a possible pick and have an extra to reposition
Though a thing to note is grapple is especially weak right now because repeater and bfr are meta right now
So it's extra easy to just plink the grapple light midair
BFR is not meta but go off twin
i mean it would still not be as good as dash probably cause idk how teamfights would go with this and or light 1v1s
i'd just have to see it in action for any further opinions
? Pretty sure it still is
been running the finals for 12h straight
It's great for escaping light 1v1s
It's like top 4 but lowkey you're cheeks if you're still running BFR in the big 26
80% of this games items have many creative buffs/neutral changes that should happen but embark a bunch of scaredy cats when it comes to literally anything
I mean other than SA and shak what else is used a lot on heavy
the electricity bill will be higher this month
i dont think in the last 3 seasons aside from seasonal/mid season patches have given more than 5 balance changes
which is just disgusting and genuinely embarassing on behalf of embark
but oh well what can you do
idk i dont pay, my parents do.
Bro I can get some insane grapple movement going. Like you think it'd be bad but nobody has really unlocked its potential. I'm telling you it's way better in 1v1s than you think
amazing
if its sped up actually yeah
when i sent that i lowkey forgot i suggested it gets sped up 😭
maybe at some point theyll realize that they should make it no longer hook players
memory of a goldfish
to a degree yes but I think the problem more is embark always balances favourably to a select few items and playstyles and everything else can just stay fucked for all eternity for all they care. This favourite child balancing philosophy is why weapons like spear that were never good can stay bad forever without buffs while they hide behind their excuse of "data"
they literally just dont do anything though
SA12 and Lewis are #1 (they share since it's map dependent)
Shak is #2 (people's champion/crutch)
BFR #3 (last season holdovers be damned)
If doesn't need a speed boost trust. People just dunno what's possible
And in people I mainly mean you lmao
3 more RPM next season 
yeah they wouldn't overnerf their favourite child would they? And why would they give anything but meaningless nothingburger buffs to anything that isn't their favourite child?
i mean im always open to niche shit having a place in comp like the small run data reshaper had 2 seasons back but i just do not see literally anyone or anything in grapple
But hey it takes 2 shots to break ziplines now bfr is now balanced!!1!
i mean shit i have level 10 sword and level 9 dagger so like i definitely dont come from a meta slave past
i play mostly meta now but yk
yeah but even then
the SEASON balance patch was like 4 changes i think
Embark hates skill expression that isn't spamming m1
the second biggest atrocity about the patch notes, behind the pyro mine nerfs
ok it was 22 but like 80% of them were very slight tweaks
tiny changes
so its again just embark being scared of changing anything
Yeah what I recommend gets it viable in comp if you're dumbass that spends 500+ hours on the worst spec in the game. But I still think it wouldn't be worth learning over dash. I don't think anything really could
embark, do that thing where you make a major balance change and stop listening to ESports
dash just does it all
every esport player would prefer embark does like huge balance changes
But 100 hours to master dash vs 500 hours to understand grapple
I wonder if it came from the s4 cl buffs and the comical overreaction it garnered
thats like a misconception most casuals have
I cant recommend grapple with that skill curve
esport players are not begging embark to have the game be stale as fuck
insult spotted
no its not an insult its just how it is
Except for the max poke crutches 💀 💀 💀 💀
I don't think people particularly enjoy this poke meta
well i dont know anyone like that in comp
P90 M11 ruining all of my fun in one game
every comp player ive spoken to is like actually dying for embark to do literally anything
but they'd rather just do nothing and act like they're watching how weapons do
watching mgl be absolute shit for 9 seasons in a row
Oh but buff rpg damage because fuck you
80% of the shit in this game is usel.ess
Ok but like mgl was promised a rework so they clearly know its pure shit
heavy meta has been dome rpg c4 for the past 9 seasons
John Finals is entering the arena
Yeah
wasnt it promised a rework in like s3
this shit is not happening embark hates keeping their word
And then the moment barricades wasn't absolute garbage (suddenly viable) they instantly reverted it
they said they'd make melee more viable and just fucked all of them LOL
more dagger nerfs please!
Yeah lol
make sword even more unfun to play and play against please!
At start of s4
give light more ultra high TTK guns please!
Fucking wm1 weapon now. Only use lunges for rollouts
!!!
Literally a discount matter but at least matter takes aim
yeah
embark made it extremely unfun to play (camera lock) and really unfun to fight because m1 is just better than m2
before it required combos of both + qm
but now its JUST m1
Its too bad matter isn't meta because winch exists though, really fun to play
griefed a team with the most obvious smurf, feel good.
matter isnt meta because close range like kinda sucks in concept
close range light *
cant they just make lunge hit once
matter isnt meta but i still love it. i kiss a picture of it before i go to sleep every night
you die really quickly to basically everything in the game and you being up close just makes it way easier
m11 only works because it has good ttks
Not necessarily. M11 is meta because it can perform well at close range when needed.
HHH vs LLM
it should be no angle lock, 74 damage left click, 140 damage lunge (m2), and then remove multihits for the lunge
Matter's dps is comparable to m11 I'd say. 3 shotting heavies isn't nothing.
yes i said why m11 is good
matter is close range light without the ability to just ttk farm
so you lose
and another thing
i mean matter was mainly used for environmental dmg then it was nerfed and became a very low playrate weapon
m11 has actual range
Honestly it's still because of winch I'd say
so you can basically get chip damage and ttk farm even harder
Matter forces you to stay in close range for most of your time so you just get stunlocked and gangbanged
cause your opponent is missing 50-100 hp when the fight starts
matter just cant do that
You can chip with matter too tbh
yes exactly which m11 doesnt require
not nearly as much as m11
yeah
you arent getting 75 damage on a medium from 30 meters on matter
m11 is just better range
but you CAN on m11
then you just abuse that in a fight
Oblivion [Monsoon, Blinkzr, Fun] wins algs champs that's crazy bro
I still stand by that matter would be meta if winch doesn't exist though
their medium is lower so hes scared so he cant aggress as much with his team

You can melee combo instakill a light
who actually wants the game to stay the same
yeah but a good light usually wont be in the range for that to happen
matter is quite good against lights ill sayt
Bro there's some crazy crutches like I don't know anyone personally so I ain't saying shit but I have my suspicions
you can delete it after but who pertickle
honestly yeah but it allows you to do outplays that other guns don't give you the chance to
me too
i was doing so good with the revolver yesterday
i mean like ape squad was actually embarrassing at the major
Should be unless someone has the same name as me
i tuned in for a match with VGG against ape squad and both of the lights on their respective teams completely sold a game because they hard inted
What did they do (i didn't pay attention to majors)
it was like the final cashout of each match in their 3v3s and in one game a light just triple dash directly toward the enemy light or medium for no reason when he should have stalled so it sold their box
and then in the next game the other teams light jumped into the one spot where 2 enemies could shoot him while he was trying to stop a steal
so it just completely sold that box and then the game
it was the first match i tuned into cause i slept through the first half of the second day when it happened
and some of the teams just made absurdly ass decisions
Dms
oh dude whats with the mid match joins man
I saw the highlights of the drg sniper match
3 in a row where i join mid game, losing
It was so funny seeing the sniper light just throw the match by dashing away from his team
Apes was safe and then absolutely sold bro ts was tragic
And then their med and heavy just got rekt
Like they absolutely had it
bernal suspended and, high ground with sniper
Just sit back and plink away on the heavy
why are these mistakes dumb as hell, is it cause they think they can get a pick or something
There was also the crane incident lmao
should repeater only have a slower fire rate or should it also get a dmg nerf
slow fire rate
anything to keep the gun as a light cooker
dmg nerf
Fucking nuke it I'm tired of it
Make it do 68 damage I don't care
Sumn needs to be done in general. The meta has been the same for too long and the game is fucking stale.
idc what meta is as long as HHM stays out of it shit is just so stale
chat what does this mean?
a common thing on most firearms
what does it mean
also dude what the fuck is with these bow dash players, actually worst individuals
i cant read
It means to consult the manual before use
who reads a manual?
People
thtas kinda stoopid
It feels like embark laid off the entire balance team or something with how little shit has been changing. Like wow! So cool! They nerfed the famas, nobody used it. Wow they nerfed the repeater in a way that doesn't matter! Come the fuck on embark, do something drastic. I feel like the picture with the guy poking the stick saying "c'mon, do something"
Requesting the operator of said firearm to understand the firearm by a manual
why would i need to do that
To use the weapon
why would i need to read a manual if i can use it right now
i can test it on myself to see if it works no?
Whats the point of adding E-sports to the game and raising skill floor ceiling, while having zero new players
aight dis lowk is redarded
they tend to cater to either playrate or high elo so idk tbh
like they buffed bow only cause they said bow wasn’t played enough lol
Idk what u mean “no new players” when every single game I play I have level 10-20 teammates
sounds good, doesn't work when the mechanic itself is fundamentally broken
Those are probably smurfs
the deagle is a rather dangerous piece of hardware with its heavy parts
Nah bruh 1-5 stats
Alright
Don’t wanna clown on them but some of them don’t even aim 😭
its dangerous?
i thought it tells people to sleep
besides the KILLING PART
okay yeah no nerf the repeater
Yes you might drop it and stub ur toe or smth
nvm there is just a guy flooring us
whats broken about it....
I love this game to death, I really do, but I find it hard to want to play it when I know what I'm gonna fight every match. HHM or MMH with titan, shak, repeater or repeater, p90 or fcar, shak or titan. Where is the fucking fun in that? Every match is basically the same thing.
It's been like this since last season
You don’t come across any lights?
lucky dog
Just asking
Every so often.
yeah i dont cross lights much
Dang every game I play the lobby is half sword lights or snipers
you’re stealing all the lights
the top player on pink was using throwing knives
Every time a patch comes out I will post this image because I know damn well nothing is gonna change in that patch.
every time i see a new update for the game i get so excited and realize its just bug fixes
i havnt played this game for 2 days and im ngl my life feels better and my mental health state gotten better…
At least there’s less bugs tho
Bug fixes and more mid ass outfits. Nothing actually worth logging on for.
thats a good way to look at it
(rip barricade fix patch)
The outfits are a bit mid tbh
oh
well apparently theres a horror/humour film from 2006 with the same name
you're telling me, they give us a shovel sledge hammer, and IT DOESNT HAVE AN INSPECT TO SHOVEL THE GROUND
Decent skin tho
like dude let me BM someone by shovelling their statue
why did they add a snow shovel in january and not december?
Pfffft. That'd require above the bare minimum.
still technically winter, but yeah
Good point
its colder in january here
there was snow in january but not december
they atleast gave us new BFR animations, with two of the animations NOT being in a bundle
its christmas
My birthday is in 11 days. If anyone from embark is reading this can you maybe switch the meta up in some way for my birthday? Thank you.
they gonna add “april fools” flag emotes for valentine’s day watch
Happy early birthday
Thanks gang
dude if they dont do any chinese new year content in february im gonna crashout
perfect opportunity given the season duration
Embark runs my local dollar general (they still have Thanksgiving decorations out)
Unexpected choice of gif but ok
i love sloths
but- this is also monke D:
Happy early birthday if i don’t get the chance near or on that day, hope it was a good year, best of luck on the next one 🥂
We hear you and we have given the bfr to medium
I shit on overwatch but fuck me at least they go out of their way to shake the meta up so the game doesn't get boring.
I'd take it
Heavy will be getting the repeater

when is heavy getting the riot shield
Last year
next tomorrow
Even ubisoft will do random shit to shake up the meta on siege. Doesn't stop people from banning mira every game but regardless.
This second
“we hear you, so we’re giving heavy twin models”
I’m thankful that the meta ain’t swords and stuff 😭
finally embark will see model underperforming and needlessly buff it
the day after yesterday
The Finals feels like it's in stasis in terms of balancing. The game is pretty balanced I'll admit but it's been balanced around the same shit for too long and now it's just boring.
“we heard the class wasn’t very fun right now, so we’ve reverted nukes and allowed cary able turrets to clip through wall again.”
Next next week
tbt when it was the best medium gun for like 2-3 seasons in a row i think
first of the last year
this game was at its most fun when model was meta and then cerb was yes i am biased
1 day before 2.47 months ago from last year
Aight imma head out cyall
That just reminds me of this
i really didn’t play any ranked or pay attention to meta prior to S7 but i remember model being an absolute hellscape to play against and cerb
Holy shit a company is making postal 2 in vr.
it was dumb in s3 because it could outdamage fcar at midrange lol
but cerb meta was fine cerb just needed to be toned down not fucking gutted
Some shit I've done several times
S1 FCAR with 20 bullets was probably the most menacing thing in this game so far next to prime lh1
Embark only balances in black and white.
Yuo cnat mses up tihs wrod, but yuor mnid knwos it. Evrey ltteer si in the rghit plcace, yuor brani jusy has to wok. Dsicovering tihs is a fun ltilte gmae for yuor mnid. Tihs snetence lkoos wreiid, bt yuor eys adn brani get it.
like prime LH1 had a 100m max range with a dmg of 52 like what the fuck😭
HAHAHHAHAHAHAH
AND an rpm of 300
Runs?
Did yuo udrtenasnd evrey wrod in taht snetence?
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3:33 am. Goodnight all.


Rest well monkey 🥂
I must become good at this game
Ranked 80K is crazy
me in world tour
i got 99k
Thats crazzzzy
I justy got a perm suspention for cheating and it's absolutley an error. I have vid of my gameplay leading up to the ban tonight via steam record... what recourse do I have?
almost 100k
-ask official support
Reach our Support Team: Link
Please note you need to log in with your EmbarkID.
my teammates were diamond
Ahnok
Oh thats the first thing I did ... its all automated though ... I going to be severly dissapointed if this isnt corrected. I even spent cash on cosmetics. This is very upsetting.
Best of luck getting it resolved, all you can do is wait for them to get back to you 👍
This is crazy I have a 100 spotless record on all my games on my account... insanely frustrating. I have video of my entire session tonight from logon I hope that will help its 34 min long apparently.
what reason was provided?
Cerbeus is kinda fire
I just lost my account to hacker
Kinda? It literally shoots fire.
krazy
'behavior which violates our code of condut due to severity of the violation account will not be restored' <---Which is vague and unhelpful and could mean anything from cheating to spouting death threats I guess. I have no idea what it actually means.
what u guys play the finals for
Fun?
Nama Tama 
means cheating
woah it has mini cans
What I assumed but that is definetly wrong.
started due to boredom back in s2
and now mostly due to all the amazing friends I’ve made in this server
samesiess heree, i made some amazing friends too in here
only support can help you
One of my friends made me play it
goop
Yeah I guess I would feel more confident if it wasnt automated.
Tbh
I play The Finals for esports lol. Much enthusiastic to that, when i heard there’s The Grand Major lol
are you winning tgm26
I would
but i gotta get into more scrims
you got this
good luck
@ruby cloud u better get on scrims lol
Lf1 running some regular cash out with a buddy who’s new, I’m also newer to the game if anyone is down to join lmk
-lfg go here buddy
Europe: #lfg-eu-casual • #lfg-eu-ranked
North America: #lfg-na-casual • #lfg-na-ranked
Asia: #lfg-asia-casual • #lfg-asia-ranked
Oceania: #lfg-oce-casual • #lfg-oce-ranked
South America: #lfg-sa-casual • #lfg-sa-ranked
Go to id:customize to show/hide specific channels.
Sometimes I have ringing in my ears
I would trust me i wanna get better on this game to

Mybad I was looking for that channel ty
u better get more money too
Eternal Struggle
Guys, I did a thing
if u feel sad, play The Finals.
When you are only one in the team who is playing and your light pull out this move 💔

cant, gotta get a really rough demo ready for my game for Friday
Playing the finals will makes you feel more angry.
if you feeling sad before the finals.
Hai REGXN
I dont have time to game before that ;-;
@rancid zealot
the finals fixes what’s broken inside me
true

i need to convince every internet cafes to install the finals
i don't know about you. but I never felt anger in finals
so everyone in my country could play the finals fr
realistically same
Which country
Indonesia
having to fight against double winch with sledge
Indonesia
So you're an invertebrate/sponge
I held no grudges against those who have killed me twice
I got a indian guy playing it so
Stay safe yo
maybe indonesia will work
Tyy monky boy
Idk if Indonesia is dangerous or not but regardless. Everywhere can be dangerous if you're not cautious enough.
1 year since i never uninstalled the finals
DID YOU UNINSTALLED THE FINALS
its safe now, no demo for now
HOW
reinstalled just for shortcut
oh understandable reason
i hate launching the finals through steam
the
just avoid the dangerous regions (a.k.a. the poor ones 99% of the time) and you've done literally most of what you can to stay safe
finals
may you all get a solo queue light in your matches 🙏
Mono 
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

walker
whats ur current rank in the finals (ranked)
Gold
Ada 
samesies

umm
le finales
finals
THATS MEEE
mono spotted in steam friends
mono bono mono bono
yes thats you
i know
but when i click windows button and type the finals
no results
Wtf is going on
will the real light main please stand up?
no
when are we play
They done stole my access to profile pictures. Can't have shit.
average discord compact experience
soon
Dude what the fuck is happening rn
now remove roles
gonna change my name to some other green role's name and confuse tf out of you
i will ban you for impersonating
LOL
I will send you back to arc tutorial
NOOOO
@brittle jolt 
i will
sledgehammer
i cant even impersonate green role because ill be immediately caugt
Np!! 
Weird it must've been a bug with my VPN.
what tf u using vpn for
imp-oster
@steep raven the cat sticker you sent reminds me of this cat I fostered for a bit.
also the chat is being filled with green roles
im blessed
hello going to impersonate all the JRVMs im sledgehammer | WinchClaw the 2nd
You don't use a VPN?
damn thats cute there tho
for what purpose?
mono is sus
Just in-case? Mfs on discord be malicious.
I still get youtube notifications from these guys
52w mute
cuz i thought you’re doing what i think you are
SANME BRO
Reddit mods be like
how are they still standing
block that channel
"Irrelevant, just like we'll be in four months" - Arcade Craniacs
its so over
ez
yknow i forget that non compact mode exists
??? Doin what?
at least on pc
Phone 1
Yooo get some food
i let my pc on
running the finals
I will brother
reply to this and I will guess your remaining multibucks
sledgehammer
Impostor
1700 mb
no
MK mentioned
"Get over here 🔥 🗣️ "
100
no
uhhhhhhhh cl40
almost (for me)
everytime I winch
1200
0 points
overwatch heroes portrayed by the finals
reinhardt = heavy (sledgehammer + mesh shield)
i thought something bad would happen
lol
what would you guys say is the minimum of 1 class for any team comp or is there really no minimum ideally
(not just asking meta pick like just broadly an important rule)
Pics or it didn't happen
Mortal Kombat is the most Kid friendly game wdym
I will take pics like usual 
I have seen milk
in that game
Are you thinking what im thinking
where is everybooty
not here
Just played a full game with 2 people cuz this shit game could not find one teammate for us but 1 within seconds for the others. Shits rigged asf

Couldn’t live without The Finals
This server felt like a family to me
more than just making friends
Oh yea, I havent seen the server’s ragebaiters anymore
#FreeMyBoy he did nothing wrong
What did you do?
-ask also ask official support here
Reach our Support Team: Link
Please note you need to log in with your EmbarkID.
Wasn’t me a close friend of mine lol
He already made a support ticket
Wait for Embark’s response then ! 
Had to do it after seeing the number 6️⃣ 7️⃣
Oscar performed 67
No wonder Oscar summoned 67 of his fellow Embark employees
euthanize everyone here
If I saw Oscar doing that I would grab a snowball and throw it at him 😭
Give me the ... wait nvm they are just penguins
someone please kill this chat
This server is alr lowkey dead
Reinhardt build
very true
just like the game 🥀
Sadly 
Maybe i should switch to another one fr
this season is so boring that I started playing cs again
Hello my Gs, what's the ebst build for handling multiple enemies? My teammate are always so bad, I need to kill at least 2 if I want to have a chance
This is unfair.
PS against diamonds.
Against 1 experienced player is reasonable, against a lot is not, esp if my team isn't experienced.
IK they're casual modes, but still...
P90 IS GOATED HOLY
^

guys i downloaded rivals because I had enough of cheaters in the finals and now I want to throw my pc into the ocean
Play warframe where aimbot, wall hacks, infinite ammo are legally and ethically allowed
i cant. i threw away my pc into the ocean and now all the sea turtles are dead because of me
This is ridiculous.
that is like room temperature in the winter for me
I live in TEXAS
back to good ole bf1 it is
reinstalling helldivers 2
hd2 is boring by myself and my friends insist on not purchasing it
mmm
im hopping on hd2 rn, i need my minigun
1500 hours 
the thing is that i play this game for 150h last 2 weeks
its not torturing
its healing 
that is an ungodly amount of hours per day to play this game

