endgame-lounge

[round hazel]

I think we all crit or something

[frank swallow]

my gear is not even radiant

[bleak yoke]

I got a 99 in pf

[bleak yoke]

don't mind the parse party in the name

[vernal breach]

lies

[frank swallow]

i m using classical gear gawd damn it

[frank swallow]

why am i late to savage

[round hazel]

[molten moon]

[bleak yoke]

I remember waking up

[round hazel]

This fucking

p4p1 fucks me in the ass

[steep summit]

Wut dps p3s was my first reclear

[bleak yoke]

getting dragged into p2s parsing by a fc mate

[molten moon]

That was in classical/moonward gear too

[bleak yoke]

then getting that 99

[nova socket]

Just get 99s in reclears?

[steep summit]

Wonder if I can actually get p4s done before reset

[vernal breach]

fuck that man, i just want my reclear and leave

[bleak yoke]

I'm satisfied with my logs page tbh

[molten moon]

Okay maybe not classical/monward

[vernal breach]

saaaame

[frank swallow]

goodluck getting past P1

[molten moon]

Think that had some 590 pieces

[vernal breach]

i could use one more orange but like.. cant skip CC for the life of me soo

given up

[frank swallow]

for some reason i deal 7.9k in hesperos still got grey parse

[bleak yoke]

I still want orange

but hey

[steep summit]

Well yeah issue is mainly finding competent parties but I managed to green parse p1 at least

[bleak yoke]

parsing as healer in p4p2 is free

82 with 596

in a normal clear party

[nova socket]

7.9k is like a week 2 dps

[vernal breach]

i got a 98 in p3s once in a normal party

[potent jasper]

I got blue in p1s

but then again I lack like entire left side

[fervent bane]

idm helping if I happen to be on at the time

[vernal breach]

that was the most wild shit i had ever seen

[steep summit]

Anyway workday to sleep for, nite

[molten moon]

If they're in classical, isn't that week 2 gear

[vernal breach]

week1

[potent jasper]

parsing in p3s becomes iffy tho

cus for parse runs you want to kill adds as slow as possible for pots to come up

[frank swallow]

damn shit gear

where to get aspho

[vernal breach]

yeah, thats uuh pretty easy

[bleak yoke]

on what
because that's like 575 bis dps for mnk

[potent jasper]

it is, but if ur in random pf lobbies, they like to burst adds

[bleak yoke]

I phoenix adds

[potent jasper]

so your shiny number will be lower

[bleak yoke]

those mfs fucking die

[vernal breach]

eh i do it all the time
i just.. dont press any buttons

and that slows down the kill just enough

:D

[potent jasper]

some people burst small adds so fast I can barely reposition second add

[frank swallow]

adds phase doesnt count towards parse?

[potent jasper]

like damn slow down we have 10 seconds

[potent jasper]

yep

[bleak yoke]

no it was really easy to pad

[vernal breach]

yeah just stop whacking it, even if one player (you) chooses to stop
that contributes alot

[frank swallow]

damn but then it is PF

[potent jasper]

let pots come up, and save burst window for after adds

and boom shiny number

[molten moon]

You mean PF doesn't fail the add dps check?

[bleak yoke]

I always use 1min

[round hazel]

wait do you guys not get pots consistently after adds?

[nova socket]

why does pot after adds matter when u only get 2 pots anyways

[round hazel]

like in pf?

[bleak yoke]

because pf can't be trusted

[vernal breach]

yeah u can always pot at 6m lol

[round hazel]

We dont have to purposefully slow down ever for adds

[bleak yoke]

isn't that fof

that 2min is genuinely awful

[vernal breach]

i havent noticed

[bleak yoke]

it's so bad on caster

[potent jasper]

don't ask me, I have no idea how fast competent parties kill the fight.

I haven't seen a competent party since ShB

[bleak yoke]

also

[round hazel]

I can already hear my resident BLM

[vernal breach]

caster? wat
if you're a blm.. its always bad no matter the cirumstance
rdm just zoom zooms
and summoners... arent even casters

so im not sure what youy mean

[bleak yoke]

buff seems to always come up when I need to stretch tether

[nova socket]

fof on blm is so free tho

[molten moon]

Haven't cleared past adds yet, but doesn't it not matter for summoners

[nova socket]

u bait first and just plant next to bird

[molten moon]

Their burst is literally free movement lol

[round hazel]

go to your 3 o clock ez

[bleak yoke]

that assumes pf let's blm be blm

[vernal breach]

could always just not play blm

[bleak yoke]

true

[potent jasper]

blm relative strats

as if pf would let you do that

[bleak yoke]

blm relative titan

[potent jasper]

that would be horrifying

[bleak yoke]

because 3min leylines

[nova socket]

blm relative titan was poggers

[bleak yoke]

[nova socket]

it wasnt even hard either

[potent jasper]

when I was thinking how blm relative titan would look like, always gave me shivers

u rly need to understand the mechanic to a T to know where to go xD

or have some new graphs on second monitor

[bleak yoke]

this is assuming you have a pf that isn't a bunch of monkeys with keyboards

[molten moon]

Good black mages in random PF? Good joke

[nova socket]

in pf you wouldn't ever do that obv

[bleak yoke]

pf adjusting to the blm? really good joke tbh

[potent jasper]

I mean e11s had an easy blm relative strat, at certain points some people swap their protean positions with blm

and blm would swap like 2-3 times

[frank swallow]

for some reason i see more bad ranged dps instead of melee in PF

[nova socket]

pf would also not kill fast enough for 3min leylines to be required to be used on cd

[vernal breach]

i remember back in e12s
i think it was the soultaker mechanic
and the blm would always plant mid, now i took issue with this ofc cuz mid is MY SPOT

[molten moon]

You mean the blm being even good enough to warrant the PF adjusting for it

[bleak yoke]

pf literally doesn't care about player skill unless they cant do the mech

[vernal breach]

theres like no other fucking spots available because the spot a caster who isnt a blm would normally occupy is out in godknowsfucknigwhere
and im a melee

[potent jasper]

because ranged dps have a loooooow skill floor

[vernal breach]

fuck the blackmages man

[molten moon]

I have seen EX3 farm parties fail the enrage....

There were deaths sure, but I don't think not dying would help

The BLM was the lowest of the dps in aggro

[bleak yoke]

I find brd to unironically be the 3rd hardest job

[molten moon]

Playing on console, so I was saved the horror of using ACT

[frank swallow]

still they shouldn't be below a foking DRK

[round hazel]

Listen, I spent an hour in EX3 because the healers kept thinking they should stack stack markers

[vernal breach]

drk are swole as fuck

they could beat up a phys range ez

[nova socket]

if ur below drk on ranged ur not pressing buttons very good

[frank swallow]

[bleak yoke]

tbf at 1min window
drk does usually do more dps than the average pf reclear brd and dnc

[molten moon]

You mean an orange parsing dragon in savage who ignores EX3 towers

[frank swallow]

im talking about throughout the fight

[round hazel]

How the fck are you below drk as a phys range

[frank swallow]

in P3S

[round hazel]

besides out of opener lol

[bleak yoke]

I've seen it
the opener is cracked

[round hazel]

DRK opener is 😓

[vernal breach]

tbf, in burst windows
im sure drk dps is so high that they out prio other melee dps for astro cards

[bleak yoke]

carries over to 1min for no good reason

[frank swallow]

DRK opener always beat my SAM dmg for a split second since it is faster

[round hazel]

Sometimes I DP my DRK for opener lol

[frank swallow]

[bleak yoke]

[frank swallow]

that class can deal massive dmg

[round hazel]

then go back to my ninja

[potent jasper]

drk burst really hard

they stay above most jobs in dps in the opener for like 40s

[molten moon]

Blue dps

[frank swallow]

it's opener smh

SAM got lots of casting

Midare Higan Ogi

[bleak yoke]

stop prioing the 13k drk opener over the 16k nin opener

[nova socket]

ninja should always be much higher than drk in opener

[molten moon]

How much is the smn opener 👀

[bleak yoke]

like 11k

at the end of bahamut

[molten moon]

Damn nice

[bleak yoke]

sam is somewhere near 13k from my experience

[frank swallow]

13.5k iirc

[bleak yoke]

I usually hit 13k

[round hazel]

we have...external factors

[bleak yoke]

with like

8% buffs

[frank swallow]

wait but that is the best SAM can do?

with the opener

[bleak yoke]

rng dependent

[frank swallow]

my current gear only allowed me to 12.4k in P3S

[molten moon]

But your current gear sucks 👀

[bleak yoke]

do you have esex weap

[molten moon]

I think we've established that 👀

[frank swallow]

i kno

[round hazel]

woah people do more then 7.5-8k damage??

[frank swallow]

but i wanna know the max output

smh

[bleak yoke]

also are you saying peek opener

[vernal breach]

we live in a post-kaiten society, just play monk

[bleak yoke]

or like

30sec in when pot falls off

[frank swallow]

imagine using pot

couldnt be me

lmao

[vernal breach]

reeks of poor

[potent jasper]

imagine not using pot for pf parties that wont kill

[frank swallow]

[bleak yoke]

true

[potent jasper]

[molten moon]

Imagine being poor

[bleak yoke]

I'm sorry that I reclear

[frank swallow]

dude using pot in a prog party

[nova socket]

I used like 800 pots in dsr prog

[frank swallow]

i would do that in parse group

[potent jasper]

are you poor or something

[round hazel]

I dont want to know how many pots ive used to prog uwu at this rate

[potent jasper]

[bleak yoke]

only 800 smh my head

[round hazel]

skipping ifrit dashes smh

[frank swallow]

i am being efficient

smh

[bleak yoke]

dies to 1% enrage

[frank swallow]

you can still clear without potion

[vernal breach]

only poor people have to be efficient

[bleak yoke]

true

[potent jasper]

dies to 1% enrage
has two rphys

[frank swallow]

i cleared P3S without a single pot

so

it is doable

[bleak yoke]

I cleared p4s without a single pot

[frank swallow]

see

[bleak yoke]

[frank swallow]

even more proof

[molten moon]

I mean, 2 rphys is better than a 2nd grey melee

[potent jasper]

every fight is not only doable but extremely easy if you do mechanics

[bleak yoke]

yeah

pots are just damage tool because mm big burst window

[round hazel]

but why pots are so cheap

just pot pls ;-;

[frank swallow]

smh fine i use pot

[bleak yoke]

because people are broke

[frank swallow]

i have like 95

[molten moon]

Lazy 👀

[bleak yoke]

get the grade 4s away

[round hazel]

do your roulettes and afford 99 pots

[frank swallow]

why not g6

[bleak yoke]

I'm saying that to you

get them out

[frank swallow]

another stuff added to my hotbar

[round hazel]

my hotbar is a nightmare rn

[nova socket]

Most jobs should have prob a good 5-10 buttons more

Ast is the only mostly complete feeling job I think

[molten moon]

Kaiten was removed, it can go there

[frank swallow]

Kaiten used to be at 2nd hotbar

[bleak yoke]

personally
my hotbar doesn't like ast

[bleak yoke]

why do you not have dmc kasha

it looks so out of place

[frank swallow]

cuz it's hard to see

like Kasha is red

turned blue

[bleak yoke]

[frank swallow]

i even disabled kasha from the mod

and used the other papachin mod for SAM

[bleak yoke]

I never had an issue with identifying bar icons so I wouldn't know

[nova socket]

modding icons to all look the same

interesting decision

[bleak yoke]

all of it is just

[frank swallow]

do people only use pot during opener?

[bleak yoke]

opener and 6min

[frank swallow]

any reason at 6 min?

[bleak yoke]

because it's another use

it comes up like right after 4min

so you just hold it for 6min

[frank swallow]

oh right im ppg

[nova socket]

because its the first 2minute window after its 4.30 cd

[frank swallow]

so i should use it again during my 3rd ogi

[pale blade]

Alright, question for those who have done TEA on current SMN. I've reached Perfect Alex enrage, but I'm still trying to figure out how to use Demis/primals. Specifically lining up Bahamut with second trines. Can I use Demis on CD and get new primal uses so that it lines up or do I have to Ruin 3 spam on first trines? I used primals even after downtime and when Demis were up so yeah

I'm trying to figure it out before the day of instead of doing it trial by fire.

[bleak yoke]

I personally don't fit the qualifications of tea as smn but can't you just do the ruin 3s needed for rotation after demi phase to skip the need of doing them during trines?

instead of instantly going into primal

and just saving titan for trines

[pale blade]

Well our 120s and pots are up during first trines but raid lead said hold them for second trines

So I might have to ruin 3 spam

I can pull up the log. It's the first time I've reached enrage in over half a year.

[bleak yoke]

ohhhhhhhhhh
yeah you might need to hold titan or something for first trines then

[pale blade]

So primals during first trines, then Bahamut for second?

(mainly Titan)

[bleak yoke]

you're doing balance bis right?

[pale blade]

I'm doing Asphodelos BiS + 535 relic

184 crit/184 det/42 sps/58 DH

[bleak yoke]

I think for safety you hold titan and garuda

I know general summoner not tea

[pale blade]

I see

[bleak yoke]

how long does first trines last

if you could give an estimate

[nova socket]

if you delay that long you might lose a 1mins on jails not exactly sure how long dps have until they get jailed

tanks need to use 1mins hard on cd

[pale blade]

So don't delay? I'm kinda wracking my brain over this.

Well me and the RPR are interchangeable

for jails

[pale blade]

sec

[pale blade]

First trines + Irresistible Grace is about 20s

[grand mesa]

You might be able to delay by a gcds as dps in this case

A few*

Alignment is a bitch though

[pale blade]

ayup

[nova socket]

Yeh you'd have like delay window but dunno if its too long to get full bahamut on enrage

[grand mesa]

I don't play smn nor know the exact timeline so I'm not sure how to help past that

If you lose a use by delaying I'd just use it on CD

That said

Have you asked in smn lounge?

[pale blade]

No response yet.

[grand mesa]

There might be somebody in there who might've done tea on your specific gcd speed that might be able to help

Ah

Oof

[pale blade]

Yeah my GCD speed is 2.46

I can dial it back to 2.48 if needed

[bleak yoke]

titan + garuda lasts a little over 20sec
20.7 to be mostly precise off of just some simple math

[grand mesa]

I think the only way to tell for sure is delaying on a future pull and seeing how much you're potentially losing by shifting your phases around

Maybe recording it so you can watch a vod after the fact

[pale blade]

Okay I checked. During that enrage pull I used Phoenix after Fate beta

I spent all my primals, then popped Bahamut

So I could just use Ifrit, delay Titan and Garuda, then after they're used pop Bahamut during buffs?

But yeah seems easier to just see it in action than discussing it

[sinful brook]

Because pf is slow enough that you can get a third pot in

So 2 8 isn't the plan

[inner stump]

the general consensus for most dps class is to delay 2m + pot for after trines because youll be jailed by the time your 1m comes up. if youre last jail, you might have like 5-7s to do your 1m, but the rest of the group won't

i don't play smn tho, so it could be different for them

[frank swallow]

[quick verge]

that searing light timing though

[flat thicket]

Question about uwu, Out of the physical range classes, which is the best to bring to the fight?

[wheat marsh]

at this point all are viable, but some like dragoon and monk probably have more buffs at the level

[flat thicket]

I'm thinking more about Dancer, Bard, Machinst

[grand mesa]

Just bring what you're comfortable with, if you're trying to clear

[wheat marsh]

oh i just saw physical XD

[flat thicket]

lol

[wheat marsh]

what you play best with and keeping uptime during mechanics is likely the best

[flat thicket]

cool

[wheat marsh]

dancer and bard bring more buffs if your other DPS are light on buffs

[flat thicket]

Well our FC "group" has myself on BRD and another on DNC, however one of us would need to switch to SMN for the caster role

I'm thinking BRD would be the better choice with support it proves to everyone

[wheat marsh]

well if you can keep up buffs and damage it's pretty good. i'm terrible at it XD

[flat thicket]

lol

i've been playing BRD since 1.0 so its my main go to class

however i've been asked to switch to SMN

[wheat marsh]

SMN is a fairly easy rotation, but any drop in uptime makes it lose optimization quickly

[flat thicket]

thanks, Are there any resources for SMN rotation for uWu?

[fallow pine]

Delay bahamut a few to pad on plumes

Profit

Its 2 buttons. Just don't summon ifrit during movement heavy mechanics (eruption baits, annihilation, etc) and don't actually use emerald ruin after summoning garuda unless you need it for movement

At 70 it's a potency loss over ruin 3

[flat thicket]

👌

[round hazel]

: P I'm bringing DNC to uwu. I hate MCH rn, and bard is icky so in here with DNC 🤣

[lyric summit]

kinda griefing but good 4 u

[golden slate]

I’ll take dnc over the rest in my party

Curing waltz is lit

I personally hate song cycles in uwu too

[shadow marsh]

So.. What are you guys doing? I'm done with the MSQ. Did a bit of Savage but my Static broke up, now I'm doing the beast tribe quest but don't really do anything else in the game as I mostly play alone. What do other people do to have long term fun in the game?
I really hope criterion dungeons are something similar to Mythic+ from WoW (minus the toxicity) so I can just spam dungeons again and again and improve myself/my ranking.

[vernal breach]

🤷‍♀️ i still dick around in savage on different classes
chase glam
currently doing blu shenanigan

[onyx nimbus]

If you're ust wanting grind, eureka and bozja might be your thing

[molten moon]

Hunt grind, pteranodon grind...

[robust shoal]

grind deaths in ulti

[onyx nimbus]

Mentor roulette grind @molten moon

Lmk when you start so i can queue for thordan ex

[steep summit]

You can also try going for the potd/hoh solo titles. And it’s possible to pf savages if you’ve got the sanity

[molten moon]

Carry me through a lvl 80 ex clear first, tq

[golden slate]

i do hours of the same 2 70 ultimates in pf

then complain about how bad the game is and afk in house

[timber plaza]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[golden slate]

[molten moon]

Must... Get... Ugly bulldog mount....

[frank swallow]

Fking finally

😩

Uggo boss

[drowsy agate]

in ucob, if you're baiting hatch into neurolink, is it better to just eat downtime

or just spend a weak GCD

[drowsy agate]

criterion dungeons are unlikely to be anything like mythic+

you don't need a static to do savage

[dull radish]

ideally you spin your GCD out of the neuro, step in and take the orb in it, then move out for the next GCD. If you're playing it safer or whatever and are going to be in for the GCD, it probably depends a bit on the job/GCD in question

[quick verge]

^

id say if you could build gauge

[dull radish]

a weak GCD is stronger than no GCD but not at the cost of resources or other dumb stuff

[quick verge]

then throw out a gcd

[drowsy agate]

summoner is the job

seems to be a titan gemshine GCD most of the time

would be nice to spin GCD outside but I've wiped us a few times by stepping in "last second" except the hatch explodes anyway

cuz neurolink was snapshot late

[golden slate]

u could ruin 3 or something

or 4

[quick verge]

can be a bit more exaggerated with your movements to alter hatch's path

[drowsy agate]

i've done a few pulls where I take the hatch on a trip for a bit

saving ruin 4 could work

[frank swallow]

how difficult is ultimate compared to savage

[golden slate]

Depends entirely on the fight

[frank swallow]

uh for ex the Ultima's one

[golden slate]

UWU- imo same difficulty as p4s or a tiny bit harder, Ucob and tea are complex and hard, dsr is obv a lot harder

Uwu and ucob are a lil similar in difficulty but ucob is 3000 times worse and more annoying

[frank swallow]

so the mechanic is harder ?

[golden slate]

Its more about how the fights are longer and have mechanics that rely on everyone (or almost everyone) to do right or else it’s a wipe

[frank swallow]

i see

DPS check also?

[golden slate]

There are many mechanics that aren’t forgiving at all, ex: hatch in ucob hitting u or someone in the party causing EVERYONE to die, twisters which can kill others, etc.

There’s barely a dps check in the ultimates outside of DSR

With minimal deaths on the final phases everything should be fine

[frank swallow]

ah so it's mechanic heavy

[golden slate]

Yep, mech > dps basically

A lot of mechanics happen in down time too

Such as all the trios in ucob and suppression in uwu and tea’s inception, wormhole, limit cut, and perfect Alex’s stillness motion beacon shit

[sinful brook]

a lot of uwu's difficulty came from the puzzle element of awakening the primals

but since thats been solved for years now its just execution practice

[torn kindle]

Yeah UWU’s “puzzle” is frontloaded

And you even cheese Garuda’s puzzle since you can trigger it later than what was intended

[vernal breach]

one of these days i'll watch a guide for uwu
but ima have to PF it 😔

[golden slate]

It’s easy to pf

pf struggles with gaols and suppression a lot but other than that fight

[vernal breach]

that was all gibberish to me

aight w.e
wat guides do i look for, the one from 4 years ago.. 3 years ago.. or 2 years ago

[robust shoal]

misterhappy guide is unironically good for understanding what's going on

though the specific strats shown are a bit dated

[golden slate]

I like Clees

Their guides p good

U might wanna join UAR and see if they have guides there

https://discord.gg/QzkVt2wq

Since the old one got hacked and this one isn’t linked in many discs

[shadow marsh]

I still have hope. Some people are scared of them but I must say it's a perfect type of content for those who want to play daily but don't want to do raiding. I could even imagine them making it a separate game mode like PVP with custom actions or something. But I'm wishing for too much 😄

[undone tide]

Supp is the easy one in pf

Anni and Pred are much worse

[solar wraith]

My profile finally doesn't look terrible

[rugged marten]

really? I was told last week here that UWU is more like an EX trial and easier than savage

[verbal oak]

thats ultima weapon unreal

not ultima weapon ultimate

[rugged marten]

oh I thought uwu meant unreal lol

[verbal oak]

well that's understandable

unreals are patch-based fights designed to take old exs and put them up to lvl 90

and they swap around every major patch

uwu in this context, the ultimate, is "what if we took the main arr msq bosses and turned it up to 11 and also made it a 4-boss gauntlet with no checkpoint?"

[rugged marten]

so it's like 4 ex trials back to back and with higher damage?

[verbal oak]

nope

it'd be 4 savage fights back to back with less downtime

[rugged marten]

oh okay

[verbal oak]

and depending on the ulti some phases are harder than the current highest savage floor

p4s, the capstone fight in this tier, took about a day to world first clear

DSR, the newest ultimate, took a week

ultis are designed to test players to the max

hence why most are unlocked via the savage fights

[rugged marten]

okay thanks

[undone tide]

he doesn't know 3/4 of the phases are glorified normal trials with marginally higher damage

[verbal oak]

you think i've done those trials synced ever?

i speedran that shit literal years ago and i was here in 5.3

[golden slate]

Well your on primal so it’s better there but it’s not great on crystal

I’ve seen the most wipes to supp

Tbh pf will wipe to anything so

[drowsy agate]

part of the difficulty of uwu and any other ultimate is the length of the fight

14 minutes of back to back mechanics where even 1 death can fuck the rest of the run

by the time you start looking at possible clears, the first 3/4ths of the fight has literally been repeated so many times that your fingers have developed muscle memory

I told my static that the very first pull where we make it past suppression with 0 deaths, we're gonna clear

I was right

[sinful brook]

You have plenty of leeway even with deaths

Previously in pf you'd only wipe in ultima if you gad like 3 or more deaths due to meter charge and not enough damage

Uwu is plenty recoverable even in primal phases with deaths

[nova socket]

Just had a 10 death pull which would've been completely fine if someone didnt mess up a mechanic

[sinful brook]

I raised like 4 of the 6 deaths in my clear pull

[nova socket]

rdm is very balanced job

[drowsy agate]

it depends a lot on who died and during what

of course clear pulls can have deaths

but tons and tons of clear attempts are lost because 1 person died at a bad time

one person messes up gaols and unless all 7 other people can react to adjust, that pull's gone

and that doesn't mention that people can get thrown off from having to adjust and proceed to make mistakes elsewhere

[golden slate]

when a healer dies on the last part of suppression

and then gets rezzed then dies again to the ultima cast then theres not enough heals then everyone dies

im a victim

[drowsy agate]

or if one person dies toward start of anni and then the stack kills more people cuz less people are in the stack than expected

[sinful brook]

But that's not to say a fair bit is recoverable

[nova socket]

you can have probably around 20-25 deaths and be fine in uwu

[drowsy agate]

that's floor 1 savage numbers of deaths

idk how you're gonna deal with mechanics with 20 deaths

can't really healer LB either since you need LB multiple times

[golden slate]

well if theyre spread out throughout the entire fight, and not important roles you'll be fine

u can have a shit ton of deaths in ucob too since lb3 doesnt matter

just need ppl that can actually do regular octet

[grand mesa]

just dont wipe

[robust shoal]

all ultis are faster-paced and more precise than savage, uwu is just the easiest in general and did not fare well with potency creep

[austere ocean]

lmao we had 31 deaths in ucob up to add phase. Would have been fine if someone didnt trigger a twister upon their rez

[quick verge]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1o94y1y7t3

[severe kettle]

I just unlocked unreal raid

I’ve never done any higher difficulty raid since returning to the game

Just the base ones, how difficult are these?

Would hate to dive on in and screw up someone’s time :/

[barren monolith]

Im gonna hit 90 tomorrow, where to i look for ppl to introduce me to raiding?

[torn kindle]

Unreals are old expansion extremes scaled up to current level

But since they’ve been A Realm Reborn extremes, they’re much more mechanically simple compared to current extremes

[cobalt fog]

easy

[severe kettle]

Awesome, I haven’t even done Extremes yet to be honest

[cobalt fog]

there are some mechs but shouldnt take more than 30 min ish to learn

[golden slate]

party finder

theres always fresh progs and practices

[severe kettle]

Any videos you recommend to understand how they work before diving in to learn them?

[golden slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtrTTaQE2LE

is thats the one u mean

[severe kettle]

Any time I ever use party finder it’s a bunch of listings for people asking people to come to their bar or night club.

[drowsy agate]

sort by high end raids

[golden slate]

because you're clicking on the wrong area

[severe kettle]

Oh.. 😂

[drowsy agate]

[golden slate]

click on the purple thing

[severe kettle]

Gotcha

[drowsy agate]

but no, as long as you have a decent understanding of your own job

and watched a few minutes of a guide

[severe kettle]

The UI is a pain to get used to not gonna lie… that’s my excuse.

[drowsy agate]

you'll be fine

[golden slate]

it is yea

[drowsy agate]

it is more likely you will have your own time wasted

than to waste someone else's time

[severe kettle]

Dope, will watch guide and try some out later.

[drowsy agate]

if you at least do those 2 steps I mentioned above

an alarming number of people don't watch any guide and don't know their job

[severe kettle]

I know my job as DRK but I need to practice rotation to better execute at the right times.

I find myself using TBN on some stupid attack then the CD isn’t up when the actual attack I should’ve used it on pops up

[drowsy agate]

honestly

it doesn't really matter when you use TBN as long as you can get it to pop

[golden slate]

[drowsy agate]

it's better to have more uses of it in a fight total than to save it for specific mechs

[severe kettle]

Yeah, most of the time the damage is pretty negligible and easily healed back.

[drowsy agate]

because most of the time, especially in unreal or savage, you can get by any big hits with just a mit

[golden slate]

i recommend joining The Balance and going over to the drk_resources channel, reviewing the rotation and when to use certain stuff

[drowsy agate]

TBN alone is unlikely to save your life basically

[severe kettle]

Also is there a good video on mechanics you encounter in dungeons? Like some of the signals that something is coming confuse me

[drowsy agate]

that being said, you should know your DRK opener

[golden slate]

dungeons probably have their own guides on youtube

[severe kettle]

Like red arrow circling around me took me all of 2 times to understand 😂

[golden slate]

that means its a tankbuster on you

[drowsy agate]

if you're asking about weird markers

there's some picture guide somewhere that lists most of them

[severe kettle]

Yeah the markers

[drowsy agate]

but they are not always universal

[severe kettle]

Dope

[golden slate]

isnt there a kupobot command for them

i forget

[drowsy agate]

sometimes the markers are wrong

[severe kettle]

Oh

[drowsy agate]

see: fucking sohm al

but most of the time they are universally correct

[severe kettle]

So it’s more on a per dungeon basis than universal markers

Oh

Alright

[drowsy agate]

it's a bit of both

you just have to know ahead of time

[severe kettle]

I’ll look it up when I get home this evening

[drowsy agate]

I guess it's notable to mention that if you ever see more than one stack marker

do not combine them into one stack

I think that's universally true

can't think of any mechs where that's the opposite

[severe kettle]

Thanks for the video though. I’d enjoy doing more challenging content just the general anxiety of being the tank, and if I die everyone dies.

[drowsy agate]

well

that's also totally false

you aren't expected to know everything or be a leader just because you are tanking

[severe kettle]

Also only been a month or so since I returned so still getting the hang of things back.

[sinful brook]

e12n stacking them in the add phase is fine

[drowsy agate]

there's another tank, for one thing

[sinful brook]

thats like the only instance

[drowsy agate]

but that's e12n

lol

[severe kettle]

e12n?

[drowsy agate]

normal raid from last tier

[sinful brook]

because no vuln

[drowsy agate]

casual content where pretty much an infinite number of deaths is allowed

[severe kettle]

Ahh

[sinful brook]

well you were looking for an instance of it

[drowsy agate]

true

[severe kettle]

Only came back after seeing the new ultimate race and gave me the urge to come back and play since 2019 or so

[drowsy agate]

honestly if you can do a proper opener and can at least name the first mechanic of the fight

you're better off than 90% of "fresh" people out in PF

[potent jasper]

I mean there are strats that involve that

but it also involve both tanks invulning

but generally yeah you don't double stack

[golden slate]

p3s lawl

[robust shoal]

you could stack the stacks in e7s but not e7n because lol

[sinful brook]

ah the 6 person stack while the 2 tanks played merry-go-round

[drowsy agate]

oh yeah I remember that strat

it was actually pog

better than the split stack strat

[silk tiger]

Does anyone know what hairstyle she has?

[steady pebble]

its a default hairstyle for all races but viera/hrothgar

[silk tiger]

Really? Okay

[frank swallow]

Why do people use old equipment for old ultimates is there any reason for that?

[drowsy agate]

it's for ilvl syncing

!faq ilvlsync

[storm frost]

How item level syncing works

When gear is item level synced, melds are ignored and built-in stats are instead capped at the stat cap for the synced item level. For substats, this is the higher substat on an HQ, dungeon, tome, or raid gear piece of the same type at that item level.

For example, accessories at i475 naturally have 88 as the high substat, so any accessory above i475 will have both substats capped at 88 when synced to i475. Substats are NOT scaled up, only capped.

i600 synced to i475:
Substat A: 127 -> 88 (max 88)
Substat B: 89 -> 88 (max 88)

Note that in some cases this is slightly worse (for parsing purposes) than using a melded item from the same tier as the content was originally released, but the slots in which non-synced gear is still preferred will depend on the content, the job, and the gear.

[drowsy agate]

idk what the other command is but

basically if your gear is high enough ilvl, it caps both substats even when synced down

[robust shoal]

!faq ultimatesync

[storm frost]

**Syncing Gear for Ultimates**

Sufficiently high item-level gear can cap both substats when synced down. Similarly, item-level 515 and 535 relics can have substats allocated so that fewer substats are lost to the sync (see !faq ilvlsync for more info on how gear syncing works).

See the calculator below:
https://bit.ly/XIVGearSyncCalc
Tanks can instead use their standard gear calculator, which supports syncing to both 70 and 80:
https://bit.ly/XIV-TANKDPSCALC-EW

[drowsy agate]

yea there you go

so if you were gearing for ucob then anything i470 with the right substats is equal to i600

[robust shoal]

strictly speaking you can get gains with some at-ilvl gear

[frank swallow]

uh relic grinding in Eureka would be pain

Kinda need it for UWU prog

[robust shoal]

head hands feet have higher total substats from ati-ilvl substats plus materia than just both substats maxed

[drowsy agate]

you don't need any eureka gear at all

[robust shoal]

u use bozja relic for ultis

[frank swallow]

Oh yeah right its from bozja

I guess its time to grind bozjan

[wild ether]

is there an ez macro for marking in p6?

[golden slate]

Ik some ppl do /mk attack <me>

[potent jasper]

don't need relics for ults either

it's only nice to have

especially for uwu

[frank swallow]

true i could just use manganese uchigatana

[hearty yacht]

ultima is the easiest EX trial in the game,even in unreal

[torn kindle]

I can’t wait for SE to torture us with Mog or Ramuh being the next Unreal

[bleak yoke]

apparently it's gonna be warring triad next(?)

[torn kindle]

Weak

We still have a couple painful ARR trials left

[bleak yoke]

right

[torn kindle]

Garuda with people killing the plume

Ifrit with the healer AoE and DPS control on the nails

[bleak yoke]

ah yes

[torn kindle]

Mog in general

[bleak yoke]

uwu lite
as people already struggle with ultima

[torn kindle]

I had my first Ultima that saw the enrage cast

Only 3 deaths

[bleak yoke]

i had one with like

10 deaths

[hearty yacht]

im always the one who never dies except at the end,because i commit sudoku balls

[bleak yoke]

it's always great when you have a healer that doesnt heal

and then another that barely heals

[torn kindle]

Or sages that don’t move their Kardia

[bleak yoke]

sages that place their kardia on themselves

[torn kindle]

[hearty yacht]

don't worry yall,ill be the healer (pops arcane crest)

[bleak yoke]

casts physick

[hearty yacht]

my first clear of ultima had 15 deaths

5 mine

[storm frost]

Warning issued for Nadeshiko#3416 on Final Fantasy XIV

Reason: No self-promotion in our server.
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Issued By: Nhadala#9045

[jade nimbus]

shouldn't it be warring triad?

also make it thordan Unreal

[craggy orchid]

Anyone know what content the new hippo ridin song comes from? Ie: what quest

[steady pebble]

the orchestrion is available after "The Hippo Riders" which is the bloodsworn quest

[fickle inlet]

when does the weekly roll for aglaia reset?

every tuesday?

[grand mesa]

yeah

same time as the weekly reset for most thigns

[fickle inlet]

gotchya, ty

[onyx nimbus]

My aglaia run was the most troubled I've seen since like week 2

The other sage was dosising all the time and not raising

Ok

Their default heal for raidwides?

Prognosis

At least they were doing mechs, unlike the nin, blm, and dnc

Kardion cone of shame got passed around a lot

[glad sequoia]

what is the best way to level 80-90?

[onyx nimbus]

Dungeon spam for tank healer

[golden slate]

The new beast tribe should be very solid

[onyx nimbus]

Throw in the thavnair beast tribe

[golden slate]

And also zadnor

[onyx nimbus]

Dps... might be trusts depending on queue time

How does bozja hold up past 80?

[golden slate]

Zadnor zone 3 gives good exp

[glad sequoia]

ive heard mixed oppinoins

[golden slate]

6.1

[glad sequoia]

most people say its stil good

[drowsy agate]

bozja is pretty good up to 85

anyone who is planning on finishing a ShB relic, doing DR savage, or wanting to farm out solo duels/maxed honors should totally be in bozja for leveling

even all the way to 90

no reason to waste that exp if you had a separate goal anyway

[round spruce]

just finished the msq..

[ocean badge]

Hello there,
I just finished Endwalker, is there a post on the forums that states what I need to do now to unlock extreme trials / raids etc. ? I want to discover the endgame pve ^^

[fervent bane]

to unlock extreme trials, go to x:12.7, y:14.3 in old sharlayan and speak to the wandering minstrel

for the raids the quest is started at x:9.6, y:11.9 in old sharlayan

[ocean badge]

thank you!

will it unlock the expert roulette ? I gather I need to do it to get gear ?

[fervent bane]

expert roulette is level 90 dungeons, but the gear you get from them is kinda low IL

[drowsy agate]

you just need to unlock the latest two dungeons for expert roulette

and no, you don't do expert roulette for gear

[ocean badge]

Okay, thank you

[fervent bane]

you can buy crafted gear from the marketboard and augment them to get IL 590 gear, which is good if you're interested in savage

[drowsy agate]

either purchase crafted i580 gear and upgrade it to i590

or do the normal raids (still casual content) and get a set of i580 gear

Aglaia, the alliance raid, also awards one piece of i590 gear per week and additionally gives an upgrade token for i600 gear

[ocean badge]

all right

[drowsy agate]

that token only works for gear you purchase with the tomestones

I forgot the name

the one that's limited to 450 per week

[ocean badge]

this ?

[fervent bane]

radiant gear from astronomy tomestones

yeh the pink ones

[drowsy agate]

i580 is more than enough to start endgame savage content

but i590 is suggested

it shouldn't take you longer than a few hours max to get full i580

the blue aphorism tomes are what you use to upgrade purchased/crafted i580 classical gear to i590

[ocean badge]

all right so lvl 90 alliance raid once a week, normal raids and roulettes to farm astronomy tomestones

[drowsy agate]

expert roulette is a major source of astronomy tomes

[fervent bane]

you can only get 450 astronomy tomes a week though, keep that in mind

[drowsy agate]

I would also work to unlock that and run it daily until you cap your weekly limit

also

go to the balance and look up your job's BiS

so you don't buy bad pieces of astronomy gear

!faq balance

[storm frost]

The Balance

Discord
Website

[ocean badge]

okay

thank you!

so that gives me an idea of which stats to pursue when I buy the astronomy gear, right ?

[drowsy agate]

that one is week 1

it's not relevant to you

look at the actual bis

https://etro.gg/gearset/cec981af-25c7-4ffb-905e-3024411b797a

the link I posted is your actual bis for bard

completely ignore the week 1 prog set. it uses pentamelding (not relevant anymore) and includes a full crafted set (not recommended)

[ocean badge]

okay so if I follow the link you sent, when I buy astronomy gear I should buy a headpiece with dext/vit/dh/det and body with dex/vit/dx/crit, is that correct ?

[drowsy agate]

those are quite literally your only options

you can't buy any other astronomy gear

when it says "augmented radiant" that means it's your astronomy gear set that's been upgraded with the Aglaia token

[ocean badge]

oh ok

[drowsy agate]

endgame BiS has only two possible sets, i600 from savage and i600 from astronomy upgraded

your BiS is a combination of the two sets

so you probably already noticed every single piece in the BiS is either "Asphodelos" or "Augmented Radiant"

[ocean badge]

ok so right now I should buy the crafted 580 gear getting as close as possible to the bis stats, and then replacing every piece of gear by astronomy gear every week ?

[drowsy agate]

you don't need to buy a full set of i580 if you don't want to

I mentioned that the normal raid also awards i580

some combination of purchased, normal raid, and Aglaia gear is fine

[ocean badge]

all right

many thanks to you!

[drowsy agate]

just prioritize ilvl >>> crit > det > dh

[ocean badge]

how much dps should an ilvl580 bard do on a dummy ?

[drowsy agate]

hard to generalize

let me think

FFLogs reports top 5% of bards are doing 7.3k ish damage aDPS

[ocean badge]

the rotation is pretty straightforward but still, I'd like to do my best when I get to raiding

[drowsy agate]

so with some mental math, probably around 5.5k or 6k?

there are a lot of nuances to bard rotation

you know of the 43 34 43 song rotation right?

[ocean badge]

I'm reading on it on The Balance as we speak

[drowsy agate]

are you also familiar with uploading your logs? because it works on training dummies as well

[ocean badge]

also I was thinking about lvling a RDM, is it good for prog ? I guessed since it has the instant rez

[drowsy agate]

any job is good for prog

RDM is one of the stronger prog jobs because of Magick barrier and the aforementioned rez

[ocean badge]

that's a sentence I love
one of the reasons I came to this game

[drowsy agate]

the only job that could potentially suffer in prog is BLM

due to the job's restrictions

but that's more on how skilled the player is

and less on the job itself

[drowsy agate]

going back to this, do you know how to upload logs?

if you can get a nice, 6+ minute training dummy session

you can upload that log to a very nice website that will tell you things to improve on for your job

https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/7LGmRrCNfdwP6AtH/16/1

here's an example analysis from one of my own logs from week 1 p1s for black mage

you can plug in your log from your training dummy to get a report like this

[ocean badge]

oh that's neat

thank you !

[grand mesa]

ALSO

I would not hard focus on the damage you're dealing

Shit like crit and dh rng can heavily influence how varied your damage can be on the same rotation

Focus on playing well, and playing your job properly if you want to improve

[undone tide]

Crit RNG doesn't matter till 95+

arguably not till 99

👁️

[bleak yoke]

obviously it matters most on war

[vernal breach]

killtime nonsense is even worse 😔

oh boi, didnt get 6:40
no 99 for me

[grand mesa]

Yes

But you can still get lucky or unlucky

And have bad runs be as good as objectively better ones play wise

I'm just saying you don't peer at just the number if you're trying to improve, lol

[vernal breach]

you peer at the killtime 😔

[nova socket]

killtime matters much more than crit for personal logs

[grand mesa]

that too

either way

play properly

forget the parse

too much shit that's out of your control can affect it

[steep summit]

Emptythoughts: genuinely curious how people can consistently parse grey

[vernal breach]

dammy downs

[onyx nimbus]

Easy. They always have a bad team despite doing mechanics perfectly and having a flawless rotation

Every time

[rustic folio]

I'm genuinely curious how people can consistently parse

[vernal breach]

press buttons

dont press wrong buttons

[molten moon]

This isn't DSR ultimate smh

[vernal breach]

a clears a clear

A CLEAR IS A CLEAR

i dont really mind seeing a grey unless its a 0 lol

[frank swallow]

would be fun having a static that doesn't die to same mechanics over and over in PF so you can get great parse

[vernal breach]

it turns out.. as long as you dont die
and the party doesnt wipe, you can get 90+ even if the kill time is unremarkable

so theres only so much you can blame a bad party for

[frank swallow]

i am referring to PF tbh

since i kinda dont have static

[vernal breach]

...

the pointhas eluded you, i shall assist

[frank swallow]

i get what you mean

[vernal breach]

just keep casting em spells, even if everything around you crashes and burns! :D

[wheat marsh]

1000 Ruin 3s

[steep summit]

I mean more like I’ve been in pandae savage for like 7 weeks now, and I’ve gotten green parses on 1-4p1 on sage

[undone tide]

that's...not much better than grey

[steep summit]

Well I’m not running full 600 gear

[undone tide]

it doesn't matter

You can push purple with bad gear

Stop getting stuck on the ideas that your parses are low because you don't have gear, you aren't critting, or your party is bad

Your parse is low because your skill is low.

[steep summit]

And for some reason I’ve been having a trend of doing perfect rotation and having the rest cause wipes but mucking about and people dying randomly left and right but we end up clear

Yeah I’m fine with just being not complete piss shit.

[undone tide]

Well have fun being basically piss shit

[subtle marsh]

This isn't the balance. Can you chill.

[undone tide]

You come to endgame discussion

You get the endgame opinion

My point is

Stop looking at the things you can't change

And focus on yourself

[wheat marsh]

isnt sage pretty popular in raids? wouldnt there be a lot more parses to go up against?

[undone tide]

It's percentile so that isn't really much of a factor

A PLD that is, say, 100/1000 is the same percentile as a SGE who is 200/2000

[wheat marsh]

ah, so more if someone logs a new 100 that would affect it more? either way, seems kinda aggressive for someone else's parses.

[undone tide]

1. The parse will always appear as it was when it was originally logged. E.g: a 100 at the start of a tier will still pop up as a 100 at the end even if it isn't really rank 1.
2. More players logging will affect the parse. If 100 more people log, but the if majority of those people parse lower, yours will go up, and vice versa.

[austere ocean]

ye

[undone tide]

Also it is rudely worded but what I said was the truth

[austere ocean]

the best way to go about it is look at your xivanalysis. Chances are there are a lot of improvements beside having to deal with deaths and stuff. If your xiv analysis is perfect and you still get low parse, THEN its a gear issue

https://xivanalysis.com

[wheat marsh]

seems like a lot of investment in someone else, assuming they aren't in your static/pf. if someone's good with a clear, good on them, imo

[austere ocean]

mostly check your gcd uptime, your dot uptime and your ogcd usage. The more you maximize those, the better your parse going to get

[wheat marsh]

what is it, addersgal from having shields broken? can XIVANALYSIS check for that?

[lyric summit]

addersting

but it's not even a dps gain on single target

[sinful brook]

It goes a bit more than good xiva = goof parse

Because xiva is very much surface level

And doesn't really account for things like shifting/pooling resources for buff windows and such

Just that you've used the mathematically maximum number of uses for a given cd in your kill time

But it's definitely a fantastic place to start

As a lot of poor parses/performance are uptime and cd usage

[wheat marsh]

thats always been my downfall XD

[frank swallow]

question won't gear also affect your parse?

[onyx nimbus]

it affects it to a point

you're never gonna get a top parse without good gear

but you can totally get a blue/purple

[frank swallow]

i see my gear for SAM atm ilvl 595 atm

that is possible for Blue/Purple?

[onyx nimbus]

yes

[frank swallow]

[onyx nimbus]

i'm not a bluechamp because i don't have 605

[wheat marsh]

in theory you can get a top parse with non-BiS if you get the unrealistic of everything Crit+DHit

[onyx nimbus]

i'm a bluechamp because i'm not super good

i'm also still in the realm of "do everything in the fight properly" for harder fights

which means i haven't optimized

that's another way people get higher scores

[wheat marsh]

deffo "im still trying not to die so sacrifice uptime"

[onyx nimbus]

specialized plans that line up burst windows, and avoid getting caught with your buffs on guaranteed downtime

that's not the kind of stuff that will take you up two colors, though, that stuff is for like, purples who wanna go to orange/pink

[frank swallow]

im stucked at green parse atm so i am trying to find stuff that i can improve

[wheat marsh]

i dont think i ever got a green on e10s XD

[onyx nimbus]

also the actual top parses are both skill and luck

the joke "just crit confeitor" exists for a reason

that can be the difference for someone with 99 who was going for 100

[wheat marsh]

oh wait i did 3 times XD

but never blue

[frank swallow]

i was happy when i got green parse for P4S P1

but i wanna get to Blue

[wheat marsh]

e9s my first clear was 25 so barely green XD

[onyx nimbus]

that's nothing to hang your head over

clearing p4sp1 without being deadweight is more than a lot of people can claim

[wheat marsh]

i havent cleared anything current though i've really only really tried once XD

[onyx nimbus]

some dude came in talking trash on a p2s party i was helping to teach

he has 40 logs of p4sp1

one 9

everything else 6 or lower

that's a true sign of not improving

[frank swallow]

this is mine for P4S P1

like i am still faraway from blue

[onyx nimbus]

but you're consistently improving

[wheat marsh]

first step is clearing

[frank swallow]

i already cleared everything for current one

[wheat marsh]

you're already ahead of a lot

[frank swallow]

it's just that i am thinking like i can't get blue because of my gear

then realized i still have issues when i checked XIVanalysis

97% uptime with 80% Higan

[wheat marsh]

better than i'd do as samurai XD

i dont think i could clear savage as a melee

[round hazel]

Idk y but I can't blue it

[bleak yoke]

i actually dont know why that 47 isnt atleast a 50

[round hazel]

I need to sweat more evidently

[steep summit]

I have been shoving whatever logs show up in fflogs in xiva. I haven’t been parse chasing amd have only been doing one and done reclear swapping classes whenever I feel like it. I’m happy with good enough to not be a liability in the average party.

[steep summit]

That was the particular bit I was referring to on how does one consistently parse grey

[onyx nimbus]

No desire to improve

I think any reasonable player is gonna have some log yoyoing

Maybe you join a pf that just is terrible and you get killed by a partner in mechs

You still clear but you died twice despite it not being your fault

Chain of blue clears, broken

But if there isn't a trend upwards over time, even with pf variance, then it's likely just not caring to improve

[torn mesa]

if you have 595

that will easily yield a purple

on a decent run

[torn mesa]

this is me doing P4S door boss where overwhelming majority of kills are PF

[frank swallow]

time to git gud

[torn mesa]

it's possible to orange without 605 weapon

[frank swallow]

i have the aug classical weap

[torn mesa]

to pink with 600 weapon, you need a good run, but it's theoretically doable

590 purple should be doable too

[molten moon]

Go clear EX3 👀

I595 weapon

[frank swallow]

lazy

i forgot most of the mech alr

[molten moon]

Easy

Don't die

[frank swallow]

all i know is there would be head

then planet rewind AoE

[torn mesa]

as others have said though

fixating on your parse percentile is moronic

especially when you start blaming it being bad on factors beyond your control

[frank swallow]

was having a good run in P4S P1 was dealing 8.5k - 8.6k right till 2nd Pinax but team dead gotta restart

[torn mesa]

the only thing you can do is focus on what you could be doing better

[molten moon]

Like not blindly following the healers into the wrong quadrant on EX3

[onyx nimbus]

Understandable cotton

Smn rot very complex

[torn mesa]

the only thing I can say with parses is

some jobs have an easier time getting a good parse than others

[onyx nimbus]

What's easiest, whm?

[torn mesa]

no

easiest is BLM/SAM

because they're entirely based on their play

and are considered "harder" jobs

[onyx nimbus]

I figured Chad cohealer, cast glare was the parselord dream

[torn mesa]

hardest is probably healer despite having the easiest rotation

because a:

1. you are dependent on your cohealer
2. if people die and you have to raise, parse goes byebye
3. even if none of the above happens, people can't fuck up holding glare as easily as they could fuck rotations for other jobs, which means you're more at the mercy of crit farms

[bleak yoke]

mch is also easy to parse

[torn mesa]

MCH might be harder because of point 3 for healer

[onyx nimbus]

Makes sense

[torn mesa]

where the rotation is super chill so the point to which it deteriorates to a crit farm happens earlier

[onyx nimbus]

Mch is so locked in that anyone you're competing with probably performs

Whereas people avoid sam/blm

[torn mesa]

right, harder jobs with more personal agency

are the easiest to parse well on

assuming you're a good player obviously

similarly, DNC is harder to parse on

not only are you heavily dependent on 1 other person for your parse

[bleak yoke]

dnc is just more rng to parse on

[onyx nimbus]

Brd parses lel

[torn mesa]

your job is also high RNG

[sinful brook]

A raise won't kill your parse too badly

[torn mesa]

not saying it will

it's just having to raise VS not worrying about it

[onyx nimbus]

Yeah someone dies, the blm shrugs and continues casting

Not my problem

[frank swallow]

DPS need to care when someone dies?

[torn mesa]

yes

if you have buffs

again, BLM/SAM goes brrr

[frank swallow]

[torn mesa]

I think SAM is the easiest because BLM people can grief your uptime easier

and BLM has some rotation RNG

albeit minor

[frank swallow]

BLM peep when doing belone coils instead of going outside for tether they stand under the boss

so they can get uptime

everyday i find new things in raid

[torn mesa]

really, the answer is simply the more selfish your job/the more room for error it has, the easier it is to parse well

[frank swallow]

job that requires you to git gud

[torn mesa]

really the only 'bad' about parsing with a selfish DPS

or the only thing that could go wrong

is if your tank dies and you eat a TB

[frank swallow]

ah that

[torn mesa]

but like that's really rare

[frank swallow]

MT dead you get smacked instead

rip parse

[onyx nimbus]

Shoutout to the bro samurai who saw the offtank die in p2s reclear

And the healers being a mess

And soaked shared buster with me

I saw you try to third eye

[bleak yoke]

just

solo mit that

[onyx nimbus]

Me: "no holmgang. Guess I'll just die"
Samurai: "not today, that's my job"

[bleak yoke]

you can kitchen sink it

and live

[onyx nimbus]

At 60% with healers scrambling, bw down and only vengeance up?

And thrill I guess

[bleak yoke]

alright which one was it?

[onyx nimbus]

4th shared buster. I Holmed 1 and 3

[bleak yoke]

yeah you dont live without rampart or whetting
but
what did you rampart

[torn mesa]

imagine using cooldowns for anything on P2S except when you need to move into water with mark of the tides