endgame-lounge

[drowsy agate]

anyone still have it?

maybe it was just a pic and not a gif

[sinful brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSrbDnFtIJ0
Idk what gif you wanted but I got this?

[drowsy agate]

it was distinctly a gif cuz I remember it being embedded in the post

[sinful brook]

https://gfycat.com/heartyjaggedcub
this maybe/

[drowsy agate]

yes! that's the one

[solar wraith]

I was correct here right?

I thought that the debuffs were 1 DPS 1 healer/tank each

[torn mesa]

yes and yes

[solar wraith]

They weren't saying anything so I was worried I was the one who dun goofed

I think they're a static 😐

[frank swallow]

If they arent calling you out then you did good

I mostly just asked if i messed up like where to go

[steep summit]

So anyway.... What's the strat for p4s act 3?

[vernal breach]

Bait kicks, furthest person
Bait shakers, closest 3 people
Dont get knocked back
Soak towers

[torn mesa]

melee bait, ranged towers, swap after

[steep summit]

*correction act 4

[sinful brook]

blue goes across and 1 CW and breaks immediately after the second raidwide. purples just stay on their side and go 1 CW to soak tower

the blues and the towers have resolved

you start breaking the tethers from the N/NE one and you go clockwise

https://raidplan.io/plan/L3qe_o6yL4ywy6y-
@steep summit this might help

[undone quest]

Just wondering with p2s with the mechanic where people get knocked into each other does it matter who you knock into?

[vernal breach]

you get knocked into the lad wit hthe opposing arrow to yours

you dont really think bout who that person is specifically, so long as they too have to right idea
you'll both end up fiiiiine
unless a 3rd party kill you both

[undone quest]

Okay thank you thought there might be an extra thing tacked on

[grand mesa]

for the first flow

you'll want to be forming a cross-ish with 7 other people

second and third are just you resolving with your opposite arrow partner

[frank swallow]

I AM FINALLY FREE FROM P3S

[vernal breach]

wat bout next week?

[frank swallow]

next week?

reclear?

that is gonna be easy than A2C though

[vernal breach]

yes.. and no..

[lilac cipher]

in JP it's strangely harder than when I tried to clear in EU..

cause there's a conflict of strat between JP and EN community, especially the SoA part

JP use more conservative, safe strat whereas EN use tuffles usually

[frank swallow]

i feel like it is gonna be easier than A2C but not saying it is completely easy

the amount of trap party in A2C is horrible

[vernal breach]

wheres your conservative safe strats tho

[lilac cipher]

afaik JP use Inu

and the placement of spread/stack is more strict in JP and they just super stick to the macro

so like when you try to ignore and try to "adjust" you'll wipe easily

[vernal breach]

i quite enjoy winging shit in PF ngl

[lilac cipher]

like in EU for example, for spread and stack placement, people would adjust for that part for example

[frank swallow]

i will just try it next week and see how it feels

[lilac cipher]

like when I asked the question, they just answer "wing it" xD

[vernal breach]

its the best :D

[frank swallow]

but i saw lots of Tuufless and Mr Happy P3S reclear just now

so it cant be that bad

[vernal breach]

those moments where 2 people run up to pick up a virus at once but pause when they notice the others intent
or the 2 dps deciding who goes cw and who goes cww in a blink of a moment
dancing, ever closer to the edge as some combat sexual would say

[lilac cipher]

both use mr happy strat for FoF

[frank swallow]

you mean FoF

[hearty root]

Just curious, what's the best way to find people to do the lvl 90 treasure maps?

I can sit there for hours without people joining in. I just wanna make the gil so I can buy a new home over here.

[drowsy agate]

organize something with your FC and add people that you've ran maps with before

maps aren't very popular and also aren't really endgame content

try #recruitment-primal

[molten moon]

You also only need about 4 people for lvl 90 maps

[solar wraith]

This guy is in the P4S clear party I'm in

Should I be worried

[onyx nimbus]

very

49 kills on zodiark with a high of 9?

[solar wraith]

Also, no P3S kill

[torn kindle]

And no P4S phase one

[solar wraith]

Shit. you're right

[torn kindle]

Unless this is a party for clearing phase 1

[solar wraith]

Nope

[torn kindle]

Fucking lmao

[fervent bane]

probably best to not waste your time with that

[molten moon]

How do people like that get to do p4s while I'm stuck in p3s

I wish I had people who carry me

[solar wraith]

I don't think they'll even be able to clear the doorboss without the other 3 DPS carrying them

I've ran with the party lead before and they deal average to below average damage (their best parse is a double digit grey)

I don't really mind him as much but 0's on Hippo and no P3S/phase 1 kill is extremely sus

[molten moon]

It can kind of happen if you play on console and no one else uploads logs, but yeah if you have multiple clears it's pretty sus

[solar wraith]

They have 49 kills on Zodiark

I'm kinda guessing they upload it themselves

[molten moon]

But yeah, how come I don't get these magic p3s carry parties

Can't wait for 6.18 so I can skip the dumb birb and prog p4s

[onyx nimbus]

i play on console too

i have like 30 logs per ex

and 20 per savage

[steep summit]

49 ex kills with a best grey parse is sus

Though I have been gray parsing my only 2 clears of p4s part 1...

[molten moon]

I only have 8 savage logs, but then I stopped p1s and p2s reclears after getting my summoner bis

If anything it's my EX3 logs that's missing

[steep summit]

Also no one uploading my later P1S reclears

[molten moon]

41 clears 34 uploaded

[drowsy agate]

how do you get that UI display

[fervent bane]

is a plugin

[solar wraith]

Plugin yeah

[drowsy agate]

which plugin

[fervent bane]

fflogsviewer

[glad dove]

I may have to wait for undersized to clear p4s, this fight makes me hate myself

[steep summit]

P1S reclear be like
Do perfect rotation, fuck up fourfold
D down on both intempts + death + chain fuckup in dartboard phase = reclear

Also I keep rolling high on neckpieces for some reason

[frank swallow]

i see lots of strats for P4S

[solar wraith]

I would recc you clear P3S first still. I notice people are more prone to looking at fflogs in P4S than P3S and I do it too... and anyone that hasn't cleared P3S before sends alarm bells ringing in my head

[frank swallow]

P3S is still shithole compare to P4S

[zinc jetty]

holy shit i finally did it, i beat p3s

[frank swallow]

welcome to P4S

[zinc jetty]

how much harder/easier is it than p3

i dont know how much more i can take lmao

[frank swallow]

i heard it is easier than P3S

[molten moon]

If only I didn't burn out on p3s adds hell 😂

[frank swallow]

Phase 1 is easy i think when i looked at the mech

[molten moon]

Can't skip now anyway though?

[frank swallow]

but Phase 2

[molten moon]

Thought you can't skip to p4s until 6.18 unlocks the tier

[frank swallow]

i thought you can skip after you clear P4S

if you haven;t then you need someone that has cleared P3S

[molten moon]

Got to clear p3s to even touch p4s tho 😬

Trying to prog p3s during NA dead hours

in PF

[frank swallow]

keep trying i got through P3S through PF also

[molten moon]

Yeah but... Dead hours

I only play during dead hours 😂

[frank swallow]

understood the mech in 3 days but cleared it 2 days afterwards because trap party

[solar wraith]

You have it the other way around, friend

There's a reason why there's a lot of Pinax memes around

[molten moon]

But are there more pinax memes than add memes

[bleak yoke]

yeah pinax memes are the only memes in p4s ngl

[frank swallow]

[bleak yoke]

out of what i've seen

[bleak yoke]

yes

[solar wraith]

Phase 2 is pretty simple once you get it

[bleak yoke]

p4p2 is a knowledge check

[solar wraith]

Pinax is, imo, the hardest mechanic in Asphodelos

[bleak yoke]

pinax p4p1 is just a mechanically difficult mech phase

because all of it is pinax

[frank swallow]

Isnt it just 1st eruption thunder or water to 2nd eruption fire or poison

[solar wraith]

No lol

[frank swallow]

Then adds in shift

[solar wraith]

No adds

[frank swallow]

Add in Shift strike*

[sinful brook]

there are no adds in p4s

[solar wraith]

1. Knockback or hug wall plus
2. stack or spread
3. Sword or cape
4. Repeat 1 and 2
5. Doing all that and remembering not to stand on the danger floor
6. 3 and 4 happens when you're doing your 2m burst window

[vernal breach]

Its difficult because it alligns with jobs burst windows
And some jobs cough monks cough have an unbelievably difficult time maintaining dull uptime and resolving the mechanics

[frank swallow]

I mean the part where he goes westerly shift, north, east or south

[vernal breach]

The mechanics when you lay it in a list like that, its real simple

[frank swallow]

[vernal breach]

But you’re also piloting your job while doing it and it can get pretty sketchy

[solar wraith]

Yup

You also gotta remember to press buttons

[sinful brook]

it happens as second set of pinax's resolves

[vernal breach]

I can do pinax easily but im probably gonna lose like 1-2 gcds unless i can do the triple thunderclap bullshit

[frank swallow]

isn't P3S the same?

just wanting to know how it feels since i am gonna do fresh prog

[vernal breach]

Nah, i dont find it as difficult in p3s

[bleak yoke]

p3s doesnt have horrid 2min windows as in p4s

pinax is downtime unless you're a god with good rng
fof is full uptime

[vernal breach]

I think p3s as a whole is harder than p4s
I think pinax specifically is a greater obstacle to burst uptime than anything in p3s

[frank swallow]

so the only hard mechanics in P4S is Pinax?

[vernal breach]

Theres like 2 mechanics in p4s, and pinax is half of em

[frank swallow]

Bloodrake and Pinax

[sinful brook]

you've basically seen the entire fight by the end of orbs

becasue it more or less loops

bloodrake happens but with towers

adn then pinax

its a short fight

[molten moon]

Actually

Question about p3s

How is adds prog now

Is it still memes galore

[vernal breach]

Well dps checks arent a problem anymore

Everything else is

[molten moon]

That's slightly comforting, considering I was burned out by the dps memes

[bleak yoke]

yeah it's what
raidwide > rake > rake > rot > tether > raidwide > tb > tile set > tile 1 > tile 2 > mid > tile 3 > shift > tile 4 > tb > rake-wide > orb setup > orb setup > rake-wide > orbs > safe tile > towers/tethers > rake-wide > towers > rot > tethers > raidwide > tb > tile set > tile 1 > tile 2 > mid > tile 3 > shift > tile 4 > raidwide > raidwide > raidwide > enrage?

[vernal breach]

I dont put that much thought into it, but i’ll take your word for it

All i remember is bloodrake shit, pinax, orb shit, bloodrake shit, pinax, dps race

[frank swallow]

Gloryplume #2 should be added as meme

the amount of people forgotting to run when they see the first big ball

[solar wraith]

Glory spread is pvp

[frank swallow]

💀

[solar wraith]

Like, FoF and FoA are pretty mech-intensive, yeah, but Pinax is just pain difficult if you haven't done it more than a few times

[frank swallow]

FoA is also really painful when you haven't actually seen it multiple times as it can be confusing

since you gotta look at the boss at all times

for the dark balls

[solar wraith]

But, imo, it's the only mechanic in P4S that's actually hard. The rest can one-shot you if you or someone else does it incorrectly, but that's on them more than you (boo your parse though)

[molten moon]

Grey parses get carried clear

[solar wraith]

One death guarantees you a grey parse

[molten moon]

If someone can parse grey the whole tier yet still clear, I should be able to right????

[frank swallow]

when you play with random peep

you might die

especially P3S

[solar wraith]

Less deaths to rot/tethers when you get to phase 2 though, ngl

I've died a few times to using Arm's Length a sec too late

And it can be annoying to have the boss jump to the spread tile while it's going off because idk if I can trust randos to do max melee range when I'm under the boss

It's just a lot of shit happening at the same time and I can't really blame them?

[solar wraith]

ofc. Just keep going at it and eventually you will

We still have a lot of time before 6.2 anyway

[frank swallow]

2 months

[bleak yoke]

2 months flies tbh

but yeah you can def clear before tier ends since echo is gonna be slapped on

[molten moon]

lazy

[steep summit]

But I got a green :v

Oh you mean p4s

[solar wraith]

Yes

[steep summit]

Well 3 weeks ago it was

[solar wraith]

It wasn't as bad as when you're in FoA prog

But we did also get a bard that didn't know where to go on Darkened Fire

Probably the most egregious trapper I've ever seen

[frank swallow]

NGL, Pinax is hell mechanically

it is worse than FoA

[nova socket]

?

its a proximity aoe or a knockback followed by a spread or two stack

its one of the easiest mechanics of an endboss in any tier

[vernal breach]

bro, im tryna to get max uptime when blue pinax is on the latter half

its a pain in the butt

[frank swallow]

yeah but it happens very fast in which it requires you to look where is N W E S while also dealing with shift strike then Pinax Eruption

[nova socket]

I mean it just isn't very fast at all

If anything the mechanic is so slow you can go the wrong way and still be fine

[frank swallow]

if you went to the wrong way you will get hit by the eruption though?

there is like 2 mechs that will happen
thunder or water
then
Fire or poison

if you went to the wrong you might wipe your parties or you died

unless you are talking about the normal Pinax which is not savage ver

[vernal breach]

and then u get cleaved by the sword . w.

its not the threat of standing on an exploding tile that'll get you

lol

[nova socket]

you can gapclose and avoid the sword or just go to the other cardinal and dodge it still

its super free

[round hazel]

Does pf pull hesperos to lightning and fire?

[golden slate]

Ya

[steep summit]

Always.

Btw, for next tier savage, do people jump straight in with current BiS or do they grab better gear first?

[verbal oak]

Normals with BiS savage with crafted

[drowsy agate]

next tier crafted/normal raid gear will be i610

so most people are going to completely replace their old savage BiS before doing the next tier

[viscid onyx]

Savage should still be possible with BiS though, right? If you want to skip the crafted gear?

[drowsy agate]

yes, still possible, but it'd be the equivalent of doing p1s in 570 gear

[viscid onyx]

Gotcha

[drowsy agate]

not impossible obviously but makes it harder

and if you want to clear the tier within 2 or less weeks then it's strongly suggested you wear full i610

[viscid onyx]

Not too worried about being super fast, our static just cleared p4s last night

But good to know

[drowsy agate]

note that better gear means you're allowed more mistakes and still clear

[viscid onyx]

Yeah

[drowsy agate]

which is especially important in the early weeks

the real DPS checks don't usually occur until the 3rd fight

[viscid onyx]

Makes sense

[drowsy agate]

e11s's DPS check was brutal in the early weeks

0 deaths all blue parsers + two melee LBs and you'd just BARELY clear before enrage

p3s's was also pretty decent but tbh people were more likely to die in p3s than e11s

[round hazel]

BiS should let me do week 1 right

cuz thas all i care xD

[drowsy agate]

current tier bis vs next tier? not sure it's possible to week 1 clear

p8s would recommend i620 gear

[round hazel]

current

[drowsy agate]

what?

your current i600 bis is unlikely to allow you to clear p8s week 1

I'm sure TPS could probably do it

but if you want week 1 clear the tier then strongly suggested to get full crafted

[round hazel]

lmfao welp hopefully it allows me to go through to p3s cuz im lazy

p

7?

idk

fucking so brain dead rn

[drowsy agate]

also strongly suggested to have full crafted 610 for p7s

as mentioned, it's probably going to be the first real DPS check

[nova socket]

Groups do p5s and maybe p6s before people have crafted gear made

first boss usually dies first lockout, second dies in 1-2 lockouts and you usually get gear after the 2nd lockout is done

[keen sigil]

I've been having this tank that knows the mechanics on P3S but kept getting oneshot by the tankbuster. Is it normal for bird to oneshot a 590 tank?

[vernal breach]

nah not rlly, they should be double mitting those TBs

they might still kinda get oneshot if they only have 1 mit and maybe mid health going into that

[sinful brook]

Not at all

It wasn't oneshotting me when I had 1 mit and 560 and 580 mix of gear

He's only going to get one shot if he's got no mit up

[keen sigil]

I saw they were at full or 80 then got clapped by Heat of Condemnation. And they were the OT/ST

[sinful brook]

Check his buffs for mitigation

[round hazel]

Inb4 they only use oblation

[sinful brook]

If he's not using anything

That's why

[keen sigil]

Didn't see Nascent Flash or any mits on both adds and TB

[sinful brook]

Flash is for other people

[round hazel]

That'll do it

[sinful brook]

Bloodwhetting and a large cd was what I used

[round hazel]

Use mits or suffer the consequences

[keen sigil]

Guess I got unlucky on PF for one tank

[sinful brook]

Also off tank war

Disgusting

[round hazel]

[keen sigil]

Gunbreaker was MT and was actually surviving shit or barely taking damage

[round hazel]

i would've had them swapped

[vernal breach]

ive had offtank wars before...

shits weird man

[keen sigil]

Don't warriors usually have the most self sustain stuff?

[vernal breach]

yeh i guess so

the other tanks also have more important things to be doing than handling MT responsibilities
so natually, i think war would be pigeoned into MT even if they didnt have the most self sustain lol

[onyx nimbus]

MT war will have easier time moving phoinix

And actually have uses for their equilibrium and thrill of battle before fledling

[potent jasper]

War is a job for people who like to be in charge, so naturally MT is the only choice

OT-ing as WAR just feels wrong

[sinful brook]

doesn't really have anything to do with being in charge

[lilac cipher]

they just heal more, so they better take more hits, that's all lol

but yeah, you have to be decent on mob placement and all of that

[potent jasper]

you do what you want in your static, but making WAR OT is sacriligious

[torn kindle]

Self-healing isn’t that big of a deal in savage

It doesn’t make or break who MTs

[drowsy agate]

honestly you'd have a better case for WAR MT if you mentioned you're doing it for the sake of DPS from vengeance

[sinful brook]

and mting isn't particularly a huge deal anyways

[drowsy agate]

[sinful brook]

since it just really defines who pulls a boss and thats about it

due to swaps and what not

[drowsy agate]

no sir that's 55 potency every auto attack

or something

[sinful brook]

the damage taken is going to be the same, the healers were probably gonna heal you there anyways

[drowsy agate]

!skill vengeance

[storm frost]

**Vengeance** : lvl 38 MRD WAR (120.0 second cooldown)(Instant cast time)

Reduces damage taken by 30% and delivers an attack with a potency of 55 every time you suffer physical damage.
Duration: 15s

Powered by XIVAPI

[drowsy agate]

yep 55

[sinful brook]

half the bosses auto like 6 times a year

[drowsy agate]

hehe

[sinful brook]

so

its whatever anyways

minmaxing vengeance you might as well crit more 4head

[drowsy agate]

sir that's 330 potency

if it's 6 autos

[potent jasper]

vengeance min maxing is really important

make sure to pre pull vengeance on certain fights

thats like 30 dps!

[sinful brook]

the rank 1 war log for p4sp2

[drowsy agate]

yo that's about as much as SCH/SMN auto attacks

[sinful brook]

gained like 17 dps from vengeance lul

[potent jasper]

incredible

[sinful brook]

i threw out 6 autos as a joke but thats actually all it soaked

in the whole fight

since i assume most of it was used for near/far

[drowsy agate]

wherever you are

[potent jasper]

check p1s

thats a prepull vengeance fight

[lilac cipher]

oh right, there's nascent as well I totally forgot

what's the benefit of bloodwhetting over nascent

[vernal breach]

Personal mit

[drowsy agate]

one's targetable on party members

[potent jasper]

self mit

[lilac cipher]

cause like whetting is more mentioned than nascent

ic ic

[vernal breach]

Cuz fuck the party

[potent jasper]

nascent is barely useful

[lilac cipher]

10% yeah, noice

[drowsy agate]

nascent is just bloodwhetting except you can put it on a party member

[potent jasper]

since u MT u dont rly need it at all

[sinful brook]

its not bad for helping soak other people

[drowsy agate]

you can nascent someone who got shrekt by an AoE

[sinful brook]

since its technically more healing pot value

[lilac cipher]

wait, nascent also gives 10%

[drowsy agate]

or put it on your MT if you're OT

[lilac cipher]

._.

[sinful brook]

3600 vs just 1600

[potent jasper]

maybe the coherence tether u could flash for OT, but thats like whatever

[sinful brook]

but like not really worth being like its life changing

[lilac cipher]

so no difference right? just party vs self, lol

[potent jasper]

tbh flash is macroed to target OT

[lilac cipher]

yeah

[potent jasper]

so u could use it during busters if ur tank swapping

other than that bloodwhetting is priority

[lilac cipher]

but doesnt nascent also gives bloodwhetting buff to your target and yourself?

[sinful brook]

no

[lilac cipher]

so you get two people instead of one

[sinful brook]

it gives the mit and teh shield to them

you only get the healing

[lilac cipher]

ok ty ty

[sinful brook]

so while potentially healing potency value is larger

if your healers are already healing its not really worth discussing

its decent as a recovery tool in shit going down situations though

where you can basically top someone to full while your healers are busy with other stuff

[potent jasper]

so far I did not find ANY mechanics where u need to flash or OT dies

[sinful brook]

well

[potent jasper]

if you have healers that play the game, ur good to go

[sinful brook]

you don't really need to have perfect mits to survive a lot of things now in week3248382 of our lord

[onyx nimbus]

I like to nascent dps that just got raised

As a cone of shame

[potent jasper]

I did not hear of any "we literally cant survive if u dont flash this mechanic" week 1 of this tier stories

[potent jasper]

I would have to use it way too often and on way too many targets

[vernal breach]

I wish the war would flash me during formless judgement back in the day

[onyx nimbus]

I can flash you

But no nascent

[potent jasper]

ba dum tss

[onyx nimbus]

[sinful brook]

i did do that to my pld back in the day

[lilac cipher]

lol I've been using nascent to my healer all the time instead of using bloodwhetting in roulette 😹

[potent jasper]

speaking of class fantasy.
Warrior is a MT class fantasy and paladin is an OT class fantasy.

[lilac cipher]

I totally missed the part where I give 10% miti to my healer instead using it on me

[vernal breach]

Pld just eats shit
Gunbo is the OT fantasy

[potent jasper]

paladin is certified OT fantasy. OT usually stacks with party, and wings are perfect for that

doesn't get much better than extra party mit

[onyx nimbus]

Then why if a duty finder tank has main char syndrome

Is it almost always a PLD

[vernal breach]

cuz we have capes

[potent jasper]

no idea, I don't play OT jobs

so far have not noticed pld with main char syndrome, but then again most pf OT's are dog water who keeps killing you

[onyx nimbus]

The fantasy Paladin player: "everyone get behind me! I'm going to passage of arms this raidwide"
The reality paladin player: "no, pulling is my job how dare you! I'm taking my tank stance off and going home. Healer, I took 5% damage are you even doing your job? I'm casting clemency now since you suck."

[vernal breach]

Fr fr, i wouldnt be casting clemency unless it was extemely dire

[potent jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-thats-pretty-true-train-wrecks-tv-gif-17236902

[onyx nimbus]

PF paladins I find generally ok if they aren't one of the complete shitters who decided to do savage without understanding how requiescat charges work

DF paladins tho, by far more shitters than any other tank class (DRK 2nd)

DF drks: yes, I used mitigations. I used TBN. What more do you want, jeez.

[vernal breach]

I havent met any plds in PF who do the -18 fof in a fight where its beneficial to do so, not a single one
So theyre all complete shitters in my book

Anytime i see a 15 sec countdown, i know that this pld isnt a gamer

[onyx nimbus]

Theres a difference between bad by raid standards and bad by msq content standards

How a pld get all the way to alzadaals legacy going requiescat immediately into confeitor

[potent jasper]

u don't need any skill in story content

just click buttons and you win

[potent jasper]

I dont rly know a situation where it would be beneficial

my OT does -18 fof everytime and so far I haven't found any issues

[vernal breach]

Yknow, in a somewhat recent poll in the chinese server
Apparently.. paladins are the least understood tank by other tank mains, so im not shocked

But simply, in the current tier just do it in p2s and p4s

[vernal breach]

Well the issue is whether or not its a potency gain to do so

Theres like.. no downtime alignment incentive to do so in something like p1s, so its all about whether its a potency gain.. and apparently its not

[potent jasper]

he plays with 200 ping so I don't think we gonna maximize potency gains much anytime soon...

[vernal breach]

Its k, pld is ping friendly

[potent jasper]

not much double weaving?

[vernal breach]

N0pe

[burnt turtle]

i know E12S isnt endgame but i guess i didnt see a better spot to ask about it lmao

uhhh does anyone do prog groups in here?

[lilac cipher]

can try /partyfinder, it's close to NA peak time

[burnt turtle]

hmm valid, i just enjoy having people to help me learn lolol watching a guide doesnt entirely do it for me ;-;

[lilac cipher]

yeah just say you are learning blind

although still I would recommend watching a guide lol

[burnt turtle]

i watched the guide i just know i will need extra help lol

[steep summit]

Only if unmitigated

Source: have been oneshot when putting up mits late

[rapid charm]

anywhere i can post to get some people to run some extreme trials for mounts

[torn kindle]

#retired-na-datacenters

Also party finder if you’re not already using that

[solar wraith]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO

P1S: 3 weeks, 26 wipes
P2S: 3 days, 48 wipes
P3S: 10 days, 96+ wipes
P4S: 14 days, 275 wipes

Like Phoenix I am reborn again

[undone tide]

3 weeks on p1s

what

[solar wraith]

Had a learning curve and I was extremely self-conscious about my performance

The only other EX I'd done at that point was EX1 I think, so I was wholly out of my element

Every day I'd not get a clear I'd just spend like 2-4 more days putting it off

I also spent like a week of rest in between first clearing each of these

[wheat marsh]

Were you PFing it?

[solar wraith]

Yes

The entire way

[wheat marsh]

honestly that's pretty good for PF on floors 3 and 4 XD

[steep summit]

😮

[wheat marsh]

i know some that were stuck on p3s for over a month trying to PF it

[steep summit]

Yeah I took 3 weeks for p3s simply cause adds

[solar wraith]

I usually learn pretty quickly so I just join the one I got up to and then some

[steep summit]

I’d be progging p4s but I’m stalling on p3s reclears this week

[solar wraith]

Mood

I took 2 weeks of rest after p3

Had a migraine due to the arena and it was not good for my eyes

[wheat marsh]

XD im pretty bad at learning and apparently my enfeeblements had been turned off so i unintentionally trapped the P1S group i joined

[steep summit]

I think it’s gonna be my 6th week for the tier, been proggin weekly

[solar wraith]

Oh lmao your debuffs?

[steep summit]

Lolwut

[solar wraith]

That's p short, Shocker

I stalled for like 2 months after clearing MSQ

[steep summit]

Yeah but unlike you I’ve been proggin near daily short of the week I had to fly for work.

And it was basically 2 days for P1/2S combined, 3 weeks for p3 and still workin on p4, only got a party that got past pinax memes last sun

[solar wraith]

P1S prog still also has people running it blind and not telling the party

I joined a fresh prog yesterday (bored and I wanted to distract myself from not clearing P4S)

And it was

a thing

People straight up being wrongly positioned for chains

Grey parsing BLM trying to greed and killing everyone

Healer YOLOing intemperance

Tried to help them as much as I could but some of them were straight up not getting it

[onyx nimbus]

Kind of reminded me of trying to help a p2s prog within the last 2 weeks

Someone asked if tank lb3 coherence 3

I said if it's there I'll use it

Two dps chime in saying we should be using it on dps or healer and people just need to do the mechanic

[solar wraith]

lmao that sounds familiar

[onyx nimbus]

Guess who died a bunch on kampeos

And avarice

And flow 2

[solar wraith]

Like, I'm of the opinion Flow 3 should just be done as intended

It's not even hard

[onyx nimbus]

We got to flow 3

I popped the lb3

[solar wraith]

Did they shit on you

[onyx nimbus]

I took the head, ran back towards the team

Laser hits someone who isn't stacked with the team somehow

Who was it?

[solar wraith]

[onyx nimbus]

"Save lb3 for dps" ninja

[solar wraith]

Can you even clear with that many deaths

[onyx nimbus]

Thanks to tank lb3 he lived

Oh we cleared

This was over multiple pulls

[solar wraith]

Ohh

[onyx nimbus]

I've seen like 12-13 deaths on p2s still clear comfortably

[solar wraith]

I'm guessing P4SP1 just built differently

[onyx nimbus]

As long as they aren't all at once

P2S dps check is only 43k

Or 42?

[solar wraith]

Oh that's pretty low

[onyx nimbus]

Yeah

[solar wraith]

How much is it usually to buy coffer from people

And mount

[onyx nimbus]

Mount for p4s?

[solar wraith]

Thinking of saving up money and lootmaster on reclears on Tuesday

Yeah

[onyx nimbus]

You probably don't need to buy it tbh

Since the drop is confirmed

Veteran clearers almost all have it

[solar wraith]

My clear today had the mount but I didn't get it

For weapon then

Weapon and chest

[bleak yoke]

well it always drops in 2 chest

and you'll probably get it next week because of reclearers

weap and chest are a different story so gl with that

[solar wraith]

Which is why I'm asking how much people usually pay for it

To be lootmaster

2 mil per person?

[solar wraith]

I'll try to scrounge up 14mil

[zinc jetty]

Say is there any guide on Uwu on par with hector hectorson guides?

I was hoping he'd have one for the fight but alas

[solar wraith]

Forgot to ask, but how long have you been working on P4?

[frank swallow]

head hurts so many tethers

[solar wraith]

P4?

[frank swallow]

yeah P4 p2

[solar wraith]

Did you clear P3S?

You guys don't take breaks at all xD

[frank swallow]

cleared P3S few days ago

[solar wraith]

I took like a 1-2 week break from progging after clearing P3S

Legit felt sick and headaches that almost felt like migraines

[frank swallow]

all i do after finishing EW is just raiding tbh

it is fun

[solar wraith]

It is, yeah

I usually do a bit of leveling and doing job stories I skipped

And side content

Still have yet to do Hildibrand

[frank swallow]

same

i haven't touched Eureka Bozjan etc

just raid xD

[solar wraith]

I've delved a bit into both

Absolutely despise them

I hate fate farming

[steep summit]

starting my 3rd week so far i think

[grand mesa]

if its just the mount

you probs dont have to pay much

people care abt the gear a lot more, generally

[solar wraith]

I am after both

[grand mesa]

5 mil per is the price ive seen for both

you can try less

[solar wraith]

I see, okay

ty

I'll see if I can win a coffer/weapon on reclear next week

If I can reclear

[frank swallow]

i have seen people pay 7m for weapon

[solar wraith]

I'll try and see if I can do it for 2m

2m per

[grand mesa]

lower prices might be doable at this point due to how people are probably already bis

but

it's a toss up

[solar wraith]

I've seen people do 1m-2m

And it does fill up

[golden slate]

I’ve gotten paid from 2 to 5 to 7

It really depends how much loot they want and on the person

If u want everything do like 3+

[grand mesa]

I mean

It's worth lowballing it if you don't mind potentially not filling

It's pretty late into the tier

some people genuinely just dont care for gear after getting bis on main

[vernal breach]

I care bout milking people for everything they own tho

And you know people share the sentiment, lol

[grand mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/917194754452770857/987372422116307015/2022-06-17_23-04-00.mp4

help

[golden slate]

Switch to the better regen healer

[grand mesa]

shut up

[frank swallow]

just progged up to Act 3 in P4S P2

kinda easy

i expected it to not be that easy

[verbal oak]

its e12sp2 again

hardest mech is in the first min

[frank swallow]

i can see why people said P1 is harder

pinax is a b*tch

[echo ibex]

Is there a huge difference between the current BIS and the BIS for TEA/Ultimate specific?
Told a guy from my static that current BIS is more than enough but he's obssesed with everyone getting the BIS TEA one when i'm telling him it's not necessary, meaning 5/8 members have to do all Bozja from 0 for the relic weapon

[solar wraith]

Everything in P2 is easy

[frank swallow]

true

i guess it is easy because victory lap?

[solar wraith]

I'd say the hardest there is probably being able to click buttons while seeing what number you are and where your tower is

Because I'm not super observant when I'm clicking buttons

[solar wraith]

Not really. Took me as much time to prog as P1 since people keep memeing in Act 2

[frank swallow]

damn i got through Act 2 like a breeze

Act 3 is where i got confused

[sinful brook]

!faq ultimatesync

[storm frost]

**Syncing Gear for Ultimates**

Sufficiently high item-level gear can cap both substats when synced down. Similarly, item-level 515 and 535 relics can have substats allocated so that fewer substats are lost to the sync (see !faq ilvlsync for more info on how gear syncing works).

See the calculator below:
https://bit.ly/XIVGearSyncCalc
Tanks can instead use their standard gear calculator, which supports syncing to both 70 and 80:
https://bit.ly/XIV-TANKDPSCALC-EW

[frank swallow]

Pinax still messed me up till this day though

[sinful brook]

Tldr you can get tea bis from heroes gauntlet if you're a sweaty and want to meld

But you'll be fine with current stuff

[solar wraith]

Act 2 is stupidly simple if you're a DPS. For some reason the tanks/healers that need to soak towers keep forgetting

[sinful brook]

The relic is nice because you can choose substats

[frank swallow]

agree on that

since it is explosion -> safe spot -> center to heal -> soak -> explosion

messed up then everyone die

[golden slate]

Act 2 is easy on whm cos lilybell does everything for u

Hate doing it on melee

[solar wraith]

Me, reaper: uptime? What's an uptime

[vernal breach]

Wind tether is still like full uptime tho

[solar wraith]

Can't even Harpe when I'm running to the soak

[sinful brook]

There's ways to greed and definitely enough time between the aoes going off to sneak gcds

[solar wraith]

I've done the uhh, range-purple circle thing as I'm coming to the first soak

1 Harpe

Then dip to the boss to get 2 GCDs in

Then go to the 2nd soak and do another Harpe

[vernal breach]

The foq u soakin

[solar wraith]

I'm still the tehter?

Oh my sentence

Soaking tether break

[vernal breach]

You just soak it in the 2 seconds inbetween gcds

[solar wraith]

Stack then

[vernal breach]

Like a champ

[frank swallow]

greeding act 2

[vernal breach]

I do it all the time lmao

[frank swallow]

being SAM suck

i just wanna do my freaking ogi

[solar wraith]

Wydm you can just jump to the boss for it and you don't need to stand still for your ranged attack

[frank swallow]

ranged attack

[solar wraith]

That still does damage, yes

[frank swallow]

i know

xD

[vernal breach]

You kinda just get used to it, like you get into position
Do about 2 gcds, run in to soak, run back in and continue without kissin a beat
Ez

[frank swallow]

it is just leaving a sour taste to my mouth

like bad GCD

[solar wraith]

Can't really help it with Act 2 but you gotta do what you gotta do

[frank swallow]

the stuff where you kenki overcaps

pain ranged skill with kenki when

[vernal breach]

Just play monk
You dont even get a range skill so all you’ve left is to greed

[frank swallow]

bruh

they legit dont have one?

[vernal breach]

Nope

[frank swallow]

[vernal breach]

I pray for wind tether everytime

[frank swallow]

what are they gonna do when downtime?

stand still?

[vernal breach]

No such thing as downtime

Just.. yknow
Be greedy

Be sweaty

[frank swallow]

greed on pinax

[vernal breach]

Yeah

[frank swallow]

[vernal breach]

You can do that

[solar wraith]

Technically Pinax should still be like almost full uptime

[vernal breach]

I think its only sam and drg cant greed pinax well

[solar wraith]

Unless you get lightning on second lol

Then you're fucked

[frank swallow]

kinda hard to greed there yk

[solar wraith]

Harpe Harpe away

[vernal breach]

Reapers got the blink, and ninjas has gangsigns in the event of lightning on second

Monks have thunderclap

[frank swallow]

midare will get swoop by the water

[vernal breach]

Sam, yknow.. like why even play sam
Just be a monk
They share the same gear anyway

[frank swallow]

no sword

[solar wraith]

Can't greed it still since I get server ticked something fierce. My ping is not super great for it

[vernal breach]

Wrong bitch

Some monks have swords on their knuckles

Long as fuck swords too

[solar wraith]

Just Enpi

Like I would Harpe

[frank swallow]

i legit enpi 3x times during pinax

[vernal breach]

Thats lame ;u

[frank swallow]

[solar wraith]

Sad melee noises

[vernal breach]

That’s disgusting

[solar wraith]

I really like it when it's water + cape on 2nd though

Ahh yes, ignoring mechanics with KB

[frank swallow]

imagine looking at the boss

i just run and hope for the best

[solar wraith]

I try to greed so I don't get a grey parse again lol

[vernal breach]

I try to greed cuz i would never put ranged skills on my hotbar

[solar wraith]

Even with me greeding my best I can get a grey parse due to bad crit rng

That, and having 2 selfish DPS and me and the DNC drifting our buffs far apart

[golden slate]

You can like purple without greeding though

[frank swallow]

just get better gear

[solar wraith]

Imagine not having a BIS weapon

[timber plaza]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[solar wraith]

From what I can tell only people with BIS can purple parse even with no greed

[frank swallow]

i can only get green parse with my augmented classical gears

[solar wraith]

One death will likely put you in grey, and being DPless with 2 selfish dps, even with greed, will put you in grey

My best is a blue

[golden slate]

I mean if you died the parse doesn’t really matter anymore

[solar wraith]

Yes

I've rarely died to P1 nowadays though

Crit variance still fucks me over if I don't get Devilment or Chain Stratagrm or Battle Litany

Speaking of DP

Now that I have leveled a DNC and know the rotation

Why do some choose to DP a caster over melee

[vernal breach]

Ilvl

[solar wraith]

Not really

[golden slate]

If a caster is doing more damage than the melee by a good chunk, I’ll prio the caster

[solar wraith]

I remember me and a sam being same ilvl (600) and the DNC chose to DP the RDM

[golden slate]

I thought sam wasn’t the ideal dp anymore with the patch

[solar wraith]

We were doing good damage though

Not ideal but they still do a lot of damage

Anyway, the RDM was below us in damage by a good margin

And they probably weren't even getting enough esprit from them

[golden slate]

In older content (70 ults) u usually prio smn but idk much bout 90 dp

[solar wraith]

It's :

NIN > MNK/RPR > SAM/DRG for melee I think

[golden slate]

So is it based off sks/sps

[golden slate]

Yee was about to send that

There’s also a calculator in that channel

I assume depending on gear and stuff

[solar wraith]

It's just bleh when I get top DPS even though the DNC DPd someone else

Esp someone who doesn't really need the crit buff like SAM or DRG

Less sour about it if they're actually decent

[nova socket]

íf u aren't speedrunning why bother doing cursed shit for uptime

[golden slate]

To cause wipes

[quick verge]

the sigma grindset

doing cursed uptime to waste other ppl's time

[round hazel]

Sometimes I do the cursed thing of DP the DRK for opener, then swap to a caster then a melee for the rest of the fight

[golden slate]

Act 2 uptime

Will fire break on the right time or will u all die

Just don’t bring melees

[grand mesa]

u dont have to greed to avoid grey parses

you can play it safe as a melee and still get blue-purples

just get ur fundamentals down

developing greed strats to get 2 gcds in wont mean shit if you lose 20+ worth of gcds due to a lack of gcd roll/clipping or severe rotational mistakes made during uptime

[bleak yoke]

it's not really about not needing the crit buff on drg
it's just the gcd makes it a bad dp which is why it's equal to sam who actually doesn't benefit that much from the crit buff but has a fast gcd

[grand mesa]

sam's still fine

just not as high prio as it used to be

[round hazel]

Ninja tho

[grand mesa]

seeing how high hyoshos can crit is p entertaining

[round hazel]

Seeing the opener numbers on ninja is nutty in my static

Plus the crits?

[grand mesa]

[zinc jetty]

Say for ultimates i cant just go in with my current gear right? I need to get the ilvl sync gear?

[grand mesa]

not required

!faq ultisync

[storm frost]

**Syncing Gear for Ultimates**

Sufficiently high item-level gear can cap both substats when synced down. Similarly, item-level 515 and 535 relics can have substats allocated so that fewer substats are lost to the sync (see !faq ilvlsync for more info on how gear syncing works).

See the calculator below:
https://bit.ly/XIVGearSyncCalc
Tanks can instead use their standard gear calculator, which supports syncing to both 70 and 80:
https://bit.ly/XIV-TANKDPSCALC-EW

[grand mesa]

you do gain dps with a properly kitted out on-IL set but it shouldnt really matter at all

[zinc jetty]

oh that's good to hear

[grand mesa]

just find gear with the substats you want on your class at the appropriate iL and you should be good to go

[round hazel]

new pistol!

[weary bone]

Nice

[frank swallow]

i am so confused at party finder doing act 3 for some reason i got d1 shouldnt i be on the middle?

like this one ignore the pict quality i stole it

but they asked me to go to the letters waymark which is a bit offset

[vernal breach]

Yall have waymarks for shaker baits? Goddamn

[frank swallow]

it is to avoid confusion but then people are still telling me to do weird stuff

💀

[sinful brook]

Basically don't stack them and don't fire them at the rest of your team

That's all that you need

[frank swallow]

that is what i am doing but a static called me out what i am doing was wrong that i should not be center but offset from center right at my tower

so i am confused

clipped like D2 twice doing that

[vernal breach]

tell them they're being stupid

you could also ask for their reasoning, but i doubt they've anything good to say

[frank swallow]

it's a static tbh i just don't wanna argue since the MT is so insistent on doing it his way

[vernal breach]

im not sure how the others dont see the red flags in what you're describing

its precisely because this is a static that you can tell em they're being stupid

[frank swallow]

so basically he wants me to stand there

on the x marker

[vernal breach]

you're stuck with these idiots, then you gotta make it work out

yeah, i did that like.. week 1
i remember..
and sure it worked sometimes
it wasnt the best way to do it

there was no reason to do it that way

[frank swallow]

it is like more room for MT but less room for D1 and D2

D2 doesnt adjust and i got slammed with him

[vernal breach]

like

[frank swallow]

in the end we never see a clean ACT 3

[vernal breach]

wat are you guys even doing

boss cardinals! wow, so much space!

[frank swallow]

dude that is literally what i am doing

💀

so like the first one right

[vernal breach]

well it doesnt work if you cant get the others to do that >:V

[frank swallow]

i go to middle

then MT for some reason stick really close to me

he is like on ST tower

《Act 3 (Xeno)》――――――――――――――――
　　MT　　 D3　【ST, H2】Bait kicks
　ST　　●　　 H1【MTD1D2】Earthshakers #1
　D1　　　　　H2【D3H1D4】Earthshakers #2
　　D2　　　D4

deez macro

MT ST D1 D2 so he wants to resolve everything like himself on ST me on D1 and D2 on D2 then he go to MT tower

[vernal breach]

has he tried not being a little bitch and just run to the tower after baiting shakers at boss cardinals

idk man, i dont like your MT

[frank swallow]

and even in xeno vid his D1 is literally going to middle

literally from xeno

[sinful brook]

Offset makes you "slightly closer" to your tower

But it doesn't matter anyways

[uncut arrow]

For level 90 what armor should I start melding at? Augmented Classical or Radiant?

Not sure if armor stuff can go here due to this mainly being about raids.

Or at least mostly talked about.

[fervent bane]

augmented classical

there should be a list of what to meld on them for your job on the balance somewhere

[uncut arrow]

Luckily I am on The Balance server

[steep summit]

I've hit CC 😮

[sinful brook]

Ezpz clear

[steep summit]

YEah now the problem, getting another party that will hit part 2 again :V

That previous party hit it first try around in PF :V

[golden slate]

U can try making a c41 party

C41 2 chest and lock it to duty complete

[wheat marsh]

dont they grey out the duty complete so you know someone hasn't actually completed in the party though?

or is this pf reclear?

[golden slate]

I mean it doesn’t matter

[onyx nimbus]

i've actually wondered why some of the tags are greyed out sometimes?

[golden slate]

It’s a c41, everyone else should have cleared

[onyx nimbus]

like how come some times duty complete is teal, and sometimes it's grey

[golden slate]

It depends on what u set the pf to

Loot makes it gold

I think duty completion makes it blue

And nothing is grey?

And practice green

[onyx nimbus]

ah there's one up right now

p1s

[duty complete] [one player per job]

but it's grey

[golden slate]

Yeah cos there’s nothing set

Duty complete and duty completion are different things

[onyx nimbus]

yeah i got complete and completion mixed up

so complete has no color associated

[golden slate]

Ye

[onyx nimbus]

practice green, loot yellow, completion teal

[golden slate]

It’s basically when ur making a party it asks what the party is for it gives u like 3 options: loot, practice, completion and then under that is where u check duty complete or duty incomplete and ilvl etc

[onyx nimbus]

yeah i think i was confused because when i started PFing someone told me people "faked" tags

and you should avoid all grey parties

and i didn't really believe them but i also never followed up to figure out how it actually worked

[golden slate]

Hmm idk, u can fake a prog point by using duty complete

[onyx nimbus]

right i've seen my share of fake parties

[golden slate]

I’ve seen ppl make reclear parties for ultimates with duty complete on even though they haven’t cleared the ultimate

[onyx nimbus]

but the color of the tags isn't the issue

hell, i've seen [weekly reward unclaimed] that were 7/8 once we instanced

[golden slate]

Lmfao

[steep summit]

tbh I'd rather have some more CC practice before i make clear parties

The parties being grey have a definition?

[onyx nimbus]

no we just hashed that out

i never knew why, now i do

grey means nothing

[grand mesa]

I don't think u need much practice to resolve cc

Move out and break tether at ur number

Dodge the proteans properly

It only really gets dicey if ur a healer

[frank swallow]

holy hell ngl P4S is pain to prog

P1 has lots of trap people

[nova socket]

Most people progging this late will be traps

[jade nimbus]

question, what is considered the hardest part of UWU?

[golden slate]

Suppression

[drowsy agate]

not trapping on titan

is the hardest part of uwu

[golden slate]

Finding someone with AM is the hardest part

[nova socket]

cheats...

[golden slate]

[potent jasper]

p3s has the highest number of trap people ever. kff/FoA into kill groups become darkfire/adds prog more often than not, you are lucky if you reach FoA once in 5 pulls

https://tenor.com/view/fml-sylvester-cat-annoyed-head-bang-gif-14151131

[steep summit]

I'm a healer you know that?

[golden slate]

It’s not that bad just focus on healing

[grand mesa]

oop

[golden slate]

If ur whm do medica 2 into medica 1s and aflatus raptures, ast same shit

[grand mesa]

Well, yeah

One of the rare times where full medica 2 uptime isn't unwarranted

[golden slate]

Also u should have lilybell there so it’s not horrible

[grand mesa]

Because that shit makes you cry compared to the shit you have to heal in the previous fights

Agree with ur coheal on which one of y'alls are using your big cd first

[round hazel]

Imagine both your healers healing, couldn't be my static

[drowsy agate]

uwu cleared

where's the copypasta with the (it was harder in 4.3) spam

[vernal breach]

Hey @drowsy agate , just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (uwu was harder in 2018) on the THE MINSTREL’S BALLAD: THE WEAPON’S REFRAIN 2021 (it’s the easy one) CLEAR. I know you’ve been working really hard (2018 it was harder) at it, and I’m happy that you’ve (uwu was harder in 2018) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (uwu was harder in 2018) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you and (uwu was harder in 2018) your group stuck t(also ucob is harder)ogether through them all and you were rewarded for your patience and (ucob is harder was 2017 & UwU was harder in 2018) tenacity. Congratulations (uwu was harder in 2018) once again, and here’s to more success in your future (ucob was harder in 2017, uwu was harder in 2018 & tea was harder in 2019) endeavors!!!

[drowsy agate]

thanks that's the one

[golden slate]

Hey @drowsy agate , just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (uwu was harder in 2018) on the THE MINSTREL’S BALLAD: THE WEAPON’S REFRAIN 2021 (it’s the easy one) CLEAR. I know you’ve been working really hard (2018 it was harder) at it, and I’m happy that you’ve (uwu was harder in 2018) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (uwu was harder in 2018) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you and (uwu was harder in 2018) your group stuck t(also ucob is harder)ogether through them all and you were rewarded for your patience and (ucob is harder was 2017 & UwU was harder in 2018) tenacity. Congratulations (uwu was harder in 2018) once again, and here’s to more success in your future (ucob was harder in 2017, uwu was harder in 2018 & tea was harder in 2019) endeavors!!!

[grand mesa]

Hey @drowsy agate , just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (uwu was harder in 2018) on the THE MINSTREL’S BALLAD: THE WEAPON’S REFRAIN 2021 (it’s the easy one) CLEAR. I know you’ve been working really hard (2018 it was harder) at it, and I’m happy that you’ve (uwu was harder in 2018) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (uwu was harder in 2018) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you and (uwu was harder in 2018) your group stuck t(also ucob is harder)ogether through them all and you were rewarded for your patience and (ucob is harder was 2017 & UwU was harder in 2018) tenacity. Congratulations (uwu was harder in 2018) once again, and here’s to more success in your future (ucob was harder in 2017, uwu was harder in 2018 & tea was harder in 2019) endeavors!!!

[steep summit]

urgh my eyes are killing me

for the 12/6 timers, do you move at 12/6 or make sure you snap at 12/6?

[bleak yoke]

kinda group dependent but better to snap at 12/6

so leave at 14/8

[nova socket]

the correct thing is to leave as soon as the guy before you did by paying attention

but leaving a second before your timer is fine

[steep summit]

whoops wrong chat

[austere ocean]

glamour is end game m8, but the top one

[bleak yoke]

def 1st

[steep summit]

I'm also mulling over trying using corsages anyway, I've reposted in #glamour-discussion

[frank swallow]

i would say the same for P1 tbh

like holy hell i can't get to P2 for 2 days after progging to ACT 3

[bleak yoke]

p2 is more trap than p1 from my experience

oh

yeah welcome to pinax memes

[round hazel]

p1s is so easy though, you can eat like 4 damage downs, a million deaths and somehow still clear it

[frank swallow]

that is a cap

[bleak yoke]

they mean p4p1

[frank swallow]

dps check is so tight

[round hazel]

for p1s?

or p4sp1

p4sp1 yes

[frank swallow]

50% is not gonna cut it you need 49%

[bleak yoke]

p4s p1

[frank swallow]

and people are bad at belone coils

[bleak yoke]

well

[round hazel]

Lol I was like p1? Damage check? lmfao

[frank swallow]

take your damn tether

[bleak yoke]

2 dps deaths is very shaky for pf

3 and it's wipe to enrage

[frank swallow]

1 death is already shaky

[potent jasper]

138 pulls no kills

its actually depressing how bad pf is

[bleak yoke]

[round hazel]

[bleak yoke]

1 death isn't shaky unless it's mechanics

[round hazel]

too bad yall arnt on aether, otherwise Ill drag you two through p4

[frank swallow]

when you see how bad D3 and D4 in PF

not dealing dmg

only melees

[round hazel]

1 death on pt2 == instand death

[bleak yoke]

it's always the melees on aether

doing ranged damage

[round hazel]

Oi Im fine > _>

[bleak yoke]

you're a ranged main

shush

[round hazel]

Leave me alone, I do damage as DNC

WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN

[potent jasper]

end my suffering

[bleak yoke]

I'm shitting on pf melees

[round hazel]

OH i thought you were shitting on ranged > _>

[bleak yoke]

because I always come out as top dps

as fucking

smn

[round hazel]

that's not good lol

[bleak yoke]

in a p4 reclear

[potent jasper]

in shb I sometimes would outdps people I dance partnered

actually depressing

[bleak yoke]

in like
savage reclears?

💀

[potent jasper]

yep

e11s in particular

[bleak yoke]

I remember doing dnc in like 510 gear for e9 prog back when I first started

[molten moon]

My friend in suffering 🤝

[bleak yoke]

wasn't even bottom dps

out of dps*

[potent jasper]

but never have I seen pf as bad as in p3s

[molten moon]

Synced unreal content? Top dps, get auto nuked if tanks die

EX3 farming? Half the time when tanks die it's haha eat tankbuster

[bleak yoke]

get auto nuked because tanks fuck you over with hitting you with aetheroplasm

[potent jasper]

sad part everyone who is good at p3s already doesnt want to ever do that fight again in their lives

[molten moon]

[potent jasper]

so I'm left with bottom 1%

[verbal oak]

true

[potent jasper]

just need 7 capable players for like 5 pulls max and its kill, and I can skip that fight forever

[bleak yoke]

just skip it now

[molten moon]

Melees when I haven't been burned out from savage pugs? Oh look, there's a rpr at 8th dps

[potent jasper]

I spent way too much time on it to not kill at this point

[bleak yoke]

L

[potent jasper]

it's gonna die today for sure, guaranteed

[frank swallow]

i would still do P3S reclear

fun

[bleak yoke]

it's literally always the melees

[frank swallow]

[molten moon]

I have seen how you can carry a fresh healer through p2s in 30 mins with a team of purple parsers, through MULTIPLE deaths and near wipes

In pugs? Hahaha ha eat enrage

[bleak yoke]

6k dps?
probably a melee

tanks count as melees

[vernal breach]

ive yet to get a p3s kill as a dps

fuck it

[round hazel]

me and one of my static member can carry 3 freshies through p1 or p2

I refuse to touch p3s PF ever

[bleak yoke]

my highest p3s is a 75 now

[potent jasper]

is rewarding players for kill banned?
I forgot what SE stance on it was

[molten moon]

That carry wasn't even a static lmao

Just a bunch of FC mates who were bored after a p1s teaching session and just went why not

[round hazel]

Is it possible to get that high in pf

[molten moon]

And actually cleared

[bleak yoke]

surprisingly yeah

[potent jasper]

"come kill p3s, if u dont suck = 100k"

[frank swallow]

😢

[potent jasper]

where blue?

[round hazel]

my highest was so lucky

[potent jasper]

jk

[vernal breach]

i got an 84 in PF

[bleak yoke]

L