Do we already know what gear will drop from each savage raid?
#endgame-lounge
lilac cipher
accessories most likely from floor 1
lyric summit
should be the same as last expansion
lilac cipher
afaik should be the same pattern as eden
lyric summit
!faq savageloot
storm frostBOT
pure tulip
Nice
A player in my Japanese Discord said the crafted gear will be sold as a set
And it will be much more expensive to buy stuff independently
Also he said you still have to compare the savage accessories with the crafted gear because in some cases the crafted gear will be stronger?
lilac cipher
not sure, cause of the stats squish?
lyric summit
that rarely happens, like 1 crafted accesory is stronger for 1 random job instead of tome/savage per tier
lilac cipher
but savage gear is probably better cause higher main stats
lyric summit
there's a 20 ilvl difference so the stats on tome/raid gear must be truly ass for crafted to be bis
lilac cipher
maybe he means for healers stuff? the piety and that shenanigans
lyric summit
yeah its usually healers or tanks especially bc of warrior crit fuckery, or something along those lines
pure tulip
He said there is no 20 level difference
sinful brook
even for tanks war didn't take the crafted ring last tier
pure tulip
He said the item level of the raid gear and the crafted gear will be the same?
The crafted gear is called 新式
lyric summit
then what's the point of doing savage raids?
they wouldn't implement gear like that
pure tulip
He said some of the gear will be stronger and some won't
lyric summit
last raid tier, exarchic gear (crafted) was 510, edenchoir (raid) was 530, same for all of eden, omega, alexander
lilac cipher
that's pretty vague hehe
lyric summit
so it will almost definitely be the same
frank quiver
pure tulip
OK, he was talking about some other gear that you need before you get savage gear
He said the Japanese server is strict and if you try to go into savage raids with weak gear you will be put on a blacklist lol
frank quiver
Eh. I’m sure the JP folks are harsher on that front.
finite plank
they check logs
they're very suspicious of non jp players but hey, I'm equally suspicious of jp players due to encountering dumb fuck jp players
it's been to the point if they actually declare "jp only" has been jp players that actually sucked
so it should be the same as everywhere else
finite plank
He said the Japanese server is strict and if you try to go into savage raids wit...
you get put on a blacklist if you suck to the point you shouldn't be doing savage. Like a few notable people on elemental
plucky pier
Anyone know about the dummy in 6.0 stone sky and sea that is in japanese? Is that the savage dummy accidentally put in?
finite plank
reported text and translation bug
kind portal
Huh... Savage loot seems to favor master loot
lyric summit
?
in the same sense as an extreme trial mount farm favors master loot cause you can get the mount maybe
aka pretty much no one will join you cause they're there for it/loot too
whole hornet
Soooo
pure tulip
I'm playing with some Japanese players and they said when getting loot at the end you should pass on everything you don't want and just leave what you want without pressing "Need". Why is that? I don't understand
I couldn't understand their explanation of why, and they said it was hard to explain
pure tulip
Yeah
verbal oak
bc if you roll on everything you're locked to 1 piece per instance per week
so if you get 3 chestpieces and 1 boot
its useless til next week
pure tulip
If I pass on everything I don't want then I don't see how I would get different things
verbal oak
so only roll on what you want rather than everything
pure tulip
Like right now I only want chest, so I always pass on everything but chest
verbal oak
If I pass on everything I don't want then I don't see how I would get different ...
roll need on what you specifically want
verbal oak
that is strange...
pure tulip
Just leave the remaining thing you want and pass on everything else
verbal oak
oh maybe its for other players to leave?
so you only roll on that piece or something against those players ig
this was DF right?
pure tulip
What is DF?
verbal oak
duty finder
pure tulip
They said your chance of getting what you want will go up because people who roll greed/need on everything will end up getting something else, and you will only roll need with the people who need the one thing you need
That's as much as I could understand. It's still not quite crystal clear to me
verbal oak
that makes sense i suppose
but you could also just... re-do the fight if you dont get what you need
oh well, i guess you could follow there advice if its a custom
stable basin
He said the Japanese server is strict and if you try to go into savage raids wit...
I think anyone semi serious will be like that
if I see people with sub-580 or no materias or something I'll blacklist them
because if they can't even be bothered to do that will they be bothered to pot and stuff at enrage?
pearl flicker
is ex2 harder than ex1?
verbal oak
a bit
pearl flicker
ooh okok
lyric summit
ex1 you can just follow someone around to solve every mechanic which is easy, but telling all the safespots yourself is a bit harder than ex2 mechanics imo
pearl flicker
i just went through like 2 hrs of trying to learn ex2 (not even doing it yet cuz im scared of party finder) bc i mixed up the order so now i gotta go and practice ex2 somehow and then learn ex1 
unkempt remnant
how is the usual process for savage beginning. you want full pentameld gear?
torn kindle
Full i570 with whatever bits of i580 will be enough for the first two fights of the savage tier assuming minimal deaths
You’ll really want full 580 for the 3rd and 4th fight
ember cosmos
full pentameld isnt necessary its extremely expensive and really something that only bleeding edge raiders do to try to absolutelyu minmax gear and damage output
stable basin
Does anyone think that there will be augmented EX2 weapons in the future?
ember cosmos
no
there are never augmented versions of primal weapons if by augmented you mean higher ilvl
there are often glowy versions but thsoe take forever to come out
stable basin
Yeah glowy is all I care about
ember cosmos
ah then yeah that wiklll likely tkae a while
stable basin
Cool plenty of time to accidentally roll a divine crystal
torn kindle
The time they take to make a crafted version wildly varies
Zurvan was in 3.5, but didn’t get glowy weapons until like 5.4
And Hades was 5.1 and got it in 5.4 or 5.5
ember cosmos
well with the exception of hades its often been at minimum the following expansion
torn kindle
Yeah Hades was the first time since ARR that they did current expansion
ember cosmos
honestly i wish theyd release it with the trial when it comes out the model for the weapon ad the crafting material to make it already exist after all
kinda buggs me when they make us wait for seemingly no reason
frank quiver
full pentameld isnt necessary its extremely expensive and really something that ...
Uh. It’s necessary if you want to clear most content first week. It’s not some minmax thing for “bleeding edge raiders.” That’s a weird way to phrase it.
But yeah, you don’t need to get pentamelded gear for entry savage.
Tomes & normal drops should suffice.
You could gear from the EX trials as well if you’re impatient and don’t want to wait for the weekly resets.
vernal breach
where has this been all my life
going to be honest tho, i cant be arsed to check snakes, which sometimes have you turn your camera 180 to see
ember cosmos
honestly that's not even the biggest issue
they can be really hard to see at times with all the other glowing shit going on
they need to do something about the snakes actual visuals so that stand out more
vernal breach
i only notice the visibility issue during the part where He slams the ground
cuz he all hunches over and the snakes are hiding behind his model
that shit is dumb
ember cosmos
thats the one i never have an issue on
i ntic it when you got the four birds or whatever adn they are hidden behind them
vernal breach
depends, if they're infront of to the side of me, i'll prolly notice
i just dont get why they can spawn directly behind
dusty dirge
quick verge
materia V
acoustic schooner
What will be the min ilvl for Pandæmonium savage?
verbal oak
What will be the min ilvl for Pandæmonium savage?
most likely 570 for the first floor, and up to 580 for last two
stable basin
lol
versed vapor
aka dynamis job
If it ever becomes a thing that is
stable basin
thancred is too much of an asshole to use emotions xD
hushed sphinx
can't wait to watch max and the limit bros race to world first
stable basin
frank quiver
Heyo, will new crafting gear drop with 6.05? Or is it just crafted battle gear?
lyric summit
just combat gear
frank quiver
I see, thanks!
crisp falcon
Based on the previous expansion, when do they normally start selling the extreme mount at the totem shop?
steady pebble
.2 for the initial extremes
vernal breach
so uuh... where does the OT stand during shiva spread in mommy ex
tradition tells me its obviously south
but theres also no real strategic advantage to having the OT there and it seems my melees agree ;l
infact, its kinda dangerous there because nobody, and i mean absolutely nobody.. not even range dps
are standing NE/NW
so theres just 7 dudes standing around the southern hemisphere of the boss
round needle
you can have tank off tank NS and melees EW
healers SE SW
ranged NE NW
that ensures space for ice spreads
and ranged at the diagonals
covert ledge
idk about aether but its literally just "Adjust" in primal
otherwise a few rare parties assign clock spots
ember cosmos
im on aether and most groups i end up in its not planned that extensively its more like "just try not to overlap ice circles"
theres enough time for those mechanics for people to adjust and the dps check for the fight is more than generous enough that you dont need such precise planning
the only time its ever an issue is if we get ice combioned with a move out mechanic and melee forget to stay out for ice. ive done that a couple times where muscle memory kicks in and i use a movement skill to reengage asap to keep dpsing lol
vernal breach
that said, is it worth using the aoe buttons during the add phase?
it appears to do less damage than me single target rotation on 2 targets...
but like, i suppose its "3 targets" if i also hit a crystal
but them crystals are pretty tanky
orz
dull radish
if the crystal is tethered and has the vuln down, it's not really worthwhile to hit/won't really be included if your AoE is only efficient at 3+ targets.
Some jobs can have some gains at 2 targets for some elements of AoE and can take advantage of that, especially if they're ranged (like, BLM can cleave with Foul instead of using Xeno, use HB2/HF2 to change instead of B3/F3, and instant Flare on two targets > Despair)
stable cobalt
kind portal
Us server still fucked?
covert ledge
during peak its gotten a little better depending on server but aether and some primal servers are still pretty fucked
but also #questions-and-help
stable basin
So got a question about on Tuesday when savage releases. I wanna get into savage, is getting a static required or is using the party finder/raid finder okay?
cobalt fog
So got a question about on Tuesday when savage releases. I wanna get into savage...
Static is not required but imo nice to have depending on your target
1st few weeks of PF should be pretty good
steady pebble
you don't need a static
but i would suggest keeping in mind that week 1 clear of all floors is not likely thru pf
can be done, but best to set expectations and assuming it'll probably be like week 2/3 for a full clear of savage if you're pfing
stable basin
but i would suggest keeping in mind that week 1 clear of all floors is not likel...
I'm not worried about quick clears, this is my first expansion launch, when I started playing it was after the final set of ShB savage raids were released so I decided to just start raiding when endwalker was released
cobalt fog
also i think its pretty late to find static rn
also many statics requires u to have some logs or exp before applying
stable basin
Okay that's fine! I'll just duty/raid/party finder it and see how it goes
stable basin
Okay! Cool
royal yacht
Does anyone know of a good discord for recruitment?
dusty ridge
glass tendon
I'm finally done with the MSQs and Pandaemonium looks heavy. Are we still in the stage where I can join and be expected to be new (I'll look up guides of course)?
dull radish
you will always be able to do that for normal mode raids like that
they're very casual and extremely doable in DF, lot of people don't even look anything up on them beforehand and you still will generally get by fine
silk skiff
because i had a debate about this earlier
what do you think the "average" player of endgame content(extreme, Savage) would prefer in their group(average meaning the normal player, who wont go for a week 1 or 2 kill, who isnt gonna speedkill it later etc)for progression (not for farm, solely for the progression/learning phase) Pure DPS on every class, including tanks and healers, or utility options to cover and recover from mistakes to be able to prog further
drowsy agate
i mean
"pure dps" and "utility options" aren't mutually exclusive
you can easily have both
are you asking if they'd rather have a SAM and a BLM vs having a RDM and a DNC?
the average player doesn't give a fuck, they just want their party to fill
silk skiff
are you asking if they'd rather have a SAM and a BLM vs having a RDM and a DNC?
stuff like DRK vs PLD was the main argument
torn kindle
Ideally have 2 melee and 2 ranged/caster DPS
silk skiff
for Offtank mostly
drowsy agate
the average player isn't going to be picky
it's whoever joins the party first
lol
whether it's a DRK or a PLD doesn't matter, like I said they just want the party to fill so they can get in the fight
silk skiff
the argument went basicaly "for prog pld may be better as he has more utility to cover for mistakes" the other party went "lol nope, utility is trash, DPS is everything, if they make mistakes we just wipe becasue they are trash"
drowsy agate
for prog obviously you'd want whatever tools help you see more of the fight
which usually means you want a RDM
and you probably would want to bring a WHM if you're running a DRK
when you're done with prog then you just want to optimize and kill asap
silk skiff
which was never up to debate.
drowsy agate
some BLM players play RDM during prog for that reason
what are you even debating
the answer is pretty simple
lol
proper cave
I'd rather have someone who knows how to play their job than someone who is only chasing "meta"
silk skiff
for prog the utility pld provides can be more usefull in my personal experience then DRKs damage for exmaple
silk skiff
skill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> class
well within reassons
silk skiff
if the difference between skill is relativly small the class can make a difference
sinful brook
stuff like DRK vs PLD was the main argument
for the tank conversation it doesn't really matter, you'll have enough tools to deal with everything anyways tbh
its not like dark knight is lacking tools just because they don't have wings
drowsy agate
i'd rather have a consistent blue parsing DNC than a "one 95 but 15 grays" sam
silk skiff
i'd rather have a consistent blue parsing DNC than a "one 95 but 15 grays" sam
thats a pretty big difference in peak vs low so not really a "small difference"
like such a large gap often si either an underlying issue or just very bad luck in some of hsi runs.. which booth can be true
drowsy agate
so again
skill >>>>>>>>>>> class
class choice matters little, especially if you aren't chasing a world first
silk skiff
once again, within reasson, aka only if the difference in skill is at a certain level
at very low or very high skill a class can make a difference it will never be a primary factor, but at most secondary, sure
quick verge
there is a hypothetical "best comp" for prog, but most ppl, even world racers just pick what they're comfortable on
the biggest difference comes from having a 3rd raise in the party
quick verge
and even then that isn't rly mandatory
drowsy agate
it's whoever joins the party first
no average player is gonna be like "sorry we really want a PLD"
if a DRK joins the party first
cuz in the end class choice doesn't matter
if you're asking a player what they'd rather play
then it's whatever they prefer to play or want to play
don't make some guy play PLD for the sake of utility if they want to play DRK
why make up theoretical debate situations when the answer's right in front of you
torn kindle
Flashback to first ultimate where DRK was in the world first group when most people viewed DRK as weaker than PLD/WAR
The DRK on why they picked it: “I like the job.”
drowsy agate
the only situation where class choice might mean anything is like
idk you probably don't want 4 melee DPS
you probably don't want 2 of the same class
etc.
aside from that it doesn't matter what class they play
oh, you also would want one class of every category
for the stat buff
steep summit
Stat buff?
steep summit
Aaaah... TIL.
silk skiff
Aaaah... TIL.
tbf i think the game never outright tells you about it
the only mention of it i can remmeber is if you join or create a CWP and it says "party wide skills and buffs will behave differently" or osmething like that
steep summit
Well I just started playing about 4 months ago so I’m not too late... but yeah I’m trying to figure out other reasons you want to have caster dps in your party
proper cave
the only mention of it i can remmeber is if you join or create a CWP and it says...
The active help pop up that talks about parties mentions it directly
But no one reads it because you see it in, like, Sastasha
silk skiff
The active help pop up that talks about parties mentions it directly
ah yes where the limtbreak gets explained
and dosnt put it into the hotbar
so most people dont understand limit breaks
till way to late
seriously why do we get crap like the help guide into the hotbar by default but not limitbreak?
steep summit
Even now I’m like starts new job wait i forgot to put the LB on
drowsy agate
Well I just started playing about 4 months ago so I’m not too late... but yeah I...
are you implying people wouldn't want caster DPS
cuz there's plenty of reasons to take caster DPS
silk skiff
are you implying people wouldn't want caster DPS
are you implying people actualy want to not blue DPS?
drowsy agate
aside from the stat buff
drowsy agate
are you implying people actualy want to not blue DPS?
objectively? lots of people already do
lol
that's why "gcbtw" exists
and talesfromDF
proper cave
Great community btw. Used sarcastically/derisively.
drowsy agate
it's a tongue in cheek statement made toward players who are exceptionally ignorant
"you don't pay my sub", enablers, curebots who ignore advice
etc.
tanks who don't mitigate then blame the healer, "you pull you tank"
steep summit
are you implying people wouldn't want caster DPS
I have a couple caster dps, and I’m right now genuinely trying to figure out what they offer outside of high dps comparable to melee but with cast times.
Ok actually rdm and smn have the extra raises right.
drowsy agate
they offer plenty in just being a DPS class
and also in being ranged
they do quite a bit more damage than the physical ranged with no cast times
unless you're summoner, in which case your damage is about the same as them, but you also have virtually no cast time
casters are just as viable as any other DPS, if not more viable
RDM and SMN's rez capabilities aside
mossy night
help. what does partners 4 life on seat of sacrifice extreme mean?
i've managed to soak towers solo unsynced with the last few learning parties, but nobody ever brought up p4l
I'm assuming it has something to do with partnering to soak towers?
drowsy agate
sounds like some cheesy way to state they're using the partner strategy
it just means for every mechanic, you solve it with your partner
meteors? partner. bahamuts? partner. towers? partner.
you determine your partner at the beginning when people call clock positions, then they usually have the T/H rotate clockwise for their partner
stone hemlock
is this the right channel for ex trial qs? 🙂
drowsy agate
here or #questions-and-help both work
stone hemlock
gotcha!
on ex1 - not sure if im blind but does adikia alternate between 2 aoe ranges?
sometimes i find i have to move way behind him
stone hemlock
sorry about that
drowsy agate
the ranges seem the same to me
ember cosmos
no it doesnt on the first adika you have to alter positoning cus of a snake in the front
stone hemlock
ahhhh so it's a snake on the edges thatll make me adjust
ember cosmos
itll shoot a line aoe and you have to adjust for that the second adika you can just get right up clsoe but the aoe size of the adika itself is the same always
ember cosmos
and yeah the snake will appear on the left or right and it can be on the front edge or away from it so you have to either be on the edge of the arena or right outside the adika aoes depending on where the snake is
ember cosmos
your welcome
vernal breach
i tell ya, the folks who can spin their cameras to find the snakes arel ike cracked outa their mind
i bet i could actually identify the safe spots if i could actually see the darn snakes
sinful brook
not like you need to stare at the boss the entire time
vernal breach
thats a habit that is never going away fam
ember cosmos
should attempt to make it go away
especially on that boss cus the time allowed to id safe spots and move to them is actually very generous
supple wolf
Are there any new dragon mounts in endwalker?
ember cosmos
none so far
ex mounts are cats
maybe there will be one later as a raid reward or from some other source
cant tell at this point
stable basin
is it normal for a new class to be overtuned at the start of the expansion? like reaper is right now?
woven tundra
Undertuned or overpowered happens ya
Theres gonna be buffs/nerfs/adjustment on tuesday so
covert ledge
is it normal for a new class to be overtuned at the start of the expansion? like...
yes
ruby knoll
I have a couple caster dps, and I’m right now genuinely trying to figure out wha...
addle
raises
magic barrier for RDM
caster dps are fucking broken
covert ledge
also summoner has a party heal over time and an excog regen
blm is
well its there lmfao
golden slate
Is brd fun at 90?
Haven’t touched it since shb and wondering how it is now with the changes
wind willow
what's the song that's playing in the watcher's home on the moon, and is that an orchestron roll i can get? or is it on youtube?
verbal oak
what's the song that's playing in the watcher's home on the moon, and is that an...
i think its the piano version of amorout, unsure if its an orchestron roll but its definitely on youtube
wind willow
Do you have a link? Im having a shit time trying to find it
verbal oak
Do you have a link? Im having a shit time trying to find it
"neath dark waters (scions & sinners)"
lyric summit
!weekly
storm frostBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
covert flame
Here’s hoping squenix doesn’t nerf infinite paradox black mage 🙏
frank quiver
Eh. It’s not meta anyways. You’d be doing it for memes.
manic flint
I guess I ask this here? Can you do hunts for Sacks of Nuts in both Crystarium and Old Sharlayan?
Or does Sharlayan replace the other one?
sinful brook
Both are still available
This would just be a regular #questions-and-help question
You can do both but if you're after exp the 80 to 90 ones will serve q bit better
manic flint
Oh okay, my bad. I guess I missed where it was in the Crystarium
Just trying to get wings
sinful brook
Join a hunt linkshell
So you get calls to a and s ranks
Those speed up the nut gain a lot
manic flint
Ohh okay, even if your hunts are used up? Or just join to finish faster?
I'm still kinda new lol- Started hunts at endgame
sinful brook
A and S ranks don't require the hunt bills to kill
You just have to be there and contribute enough to the kill to earn
manic flint
Oh woww, didn't realize. Thanks!
wind willow
"neath dark waters (scions & sinners)"
Hey thanks. Guess i gotta buy an album to get the roll
slender widget
does fflogs include limit break in the parse?
because I feel like the SAM in my last group refused to use limit break because they had really good dps
and didn't want to use it because it would have hurt their ranking on fflogs due to the animation lock/downtime you get for using lb
torn kindle
Limit Break is generally treated as a separate entity.
It’s not credited to a specific person and gets its own entry
slender widget
so a SAM that plays as good as another SAM would get a worse ranking because they have to use LB?
if that's true then this is really stupid. might gonna send feedback to the fflogs team if it's possible to do something about this
because it encourages bad play due to rankings
glossy musk
so a SAM that plays as good as another SAM would get a worse ranking because the...
Yes, that’s why you have the weakest melee use the LB
slender widget
nice thank you.
need to keep that in mind for my future logs if I ever want to play melee
drowsy agate
I mean, if your group is tryhard parsing then no one's gonna LB anyway
sage heath
For MC EX with a solo healer and an extra dps, who gets the second water drop?
sinful brook
For MC EX with a solo healer and an extra dps, who gets the second water drop?
spoiler mark that thanks
sage heath
Endgame discussion....
covert lotus
For MC EX with a solo healer and an extra dps, who gets the second water drop?
if you have 2 tanks, then tanks get water stacks, if you do solo heal solo tank, then healer and tank will have water
sage heath
if you have 2 tanks, then tanks get water stacks, if you do solo heal solo tank,...
Thank you
winged hare
Seen a dude with 580 legs, how's that happen?
lyric summit
pandaemonium normal drops
subtle bone
just for normal mode 580 gear
flint totem
Or is it just get gud lol
very much just a case of git gud, you can clear both trials with room to spare in tomestone gear
not to say that the extra gear won’t help compensate, though
pearl flicker
i have the most issue with ex1 mechanic ||astral flow I'm not sure if this is spoiler|| can someone like try and explain to me like a dummy how im suppose to know where to stand 
my friend tried but I couldn't understand him and I just followed
finite plank
for snakes, look for the end or start of the snakes then look at the rotation
phoenix seems straight forward, don't be on the other end of fire
stable basin
Hello! I just started progging TEA (doing it in PF since I don't have a static for it yet) and I have some questions for LL
- As MT, where would you pull LL after Cascade?
- As OT, how tight is the baiting window for Hand of Parting?
- For baiting, do you need to move as soon as the puddles are visible or would the MT move first?
- As ranged DPS, where would you stand to bait the cleaves?
silver coyote
@stable basin if you havent gotten any answers, you can try the UPR discord for ultimate specific questions. they'll help with any PF questions you might have
pure hawk
I didn't realize how hard and expensive the crafter melds are at the release. I got broke tryna to overmeld 1 gear GG
clearly this is for the legends who have 500mil in gil to attempt at the beginning
stable basin
<@456226577798135808> if you havent gotten any answers, you can try the UPR disc...
UPR?
silver coyote
the ultimate primal raiding discord, they focus on party finder ultimates
theyre kinda memeish, but theyll help you seriously if you have earnest questions lol
i think theres actually an ultimate pug raiding for every data center
stable basin
Oh oki, will try!
hushed sphinx
watching rwf right now, can someone help me understand chains logic?
torn kindle
i doubt any of us know one hour into maintenance being over
ask the people in their streams
hushed sphinx
well, maybe some of you are watching too and are more attentive than me 😛
so, 15 secs before chains appear 4 people are marked with red chain debuff, which indicated they will receive red chains and therefore need to run away from everyone
but then there is a multihit set of chains after the cells phase which I am yet to understand
nvm, it's literally the same thing but you need to stand at your spot until it hits 4 times
main zephyr
Can someone explain the fire/ice thing ? I don't get it
torn kindle
from what I can tell on the stream im watching, it's basically the same as normal, but there's a purple "element" that's just big damage/death
AKA don't get hit by the same element as you
main zephyr
I mean the first aoe we should all be on separate squares
torn kindle
dunno
hushed sphinx
First crystal everyone should be on separate squares
Second crystal everyone should be on north or south, since all 6 other platforms will have purple crystals, which kill instantly
Third crystal everyone should be on separate squares once again
There are also some raid damage casts in between those, so people can run to the center for mitigation/heals
and it goes without saying that you should alternate elements just like in normal
lyric summit
https://pastebin.com/HWvW53b4 what i got so far
ayy p2s ||still has the red/yellow arrows i was worried they'd make you tell the directions by just the fucked up monster parts||
torn kindle
P2S: ||I think the boss did fake/jebait for the head/body aoe||
||Or at least just the head hit opposite of where it was pointing||
hushed sphinx
yeah, looks like it
hushed sphinx
"winged" in the case name = jebait cast
torn kindle
ah
hushed sphinx
the attacks will go back instead of worward
torn kindle
I'm watching JP streams so I couldn't tell by cast name
hushed sphinx
blue arrows 
main zephyr
For the shackles I didn't really get it aside from red = far
main zephyr
https://pastebin.com/HWvW53b4 what i got so far
Thanks I got it with the twitch clip, and later when there are a few sets of chains in a row everyone just stand on their spot I guess
dusk sapphire
First crystal everyone should be on separate squares
Second crystal everyone sho...
depends, you can also be on middle if being north/south would fuck up your next element
hushed sphinx
not false
dusk sapphire
btw, does the busters, pitless flail of whatever, have to be voked?
This is how i've been resolving shackles btw
And this is how i believe that 4 shackles (4 reds, 4 blues) should be resolved, the 2nd shackles...except it brings a shitton of downtime for red shackles
dusk sapphire
so, 15 secs before chains appear 4 people are marked with red chain debuff, whic...
I got u fam, check the first picture above this
wild ether
u can do both with the 2nd pic position btw
hushed sphinx
is it always tanks and healers for the second set?
dusk sapphire
u can do both with the 2nd pic position btw
holy shit that's right...but the first pic affords more uptime for melee
dusk sapphire
is it always tanks and healers for the second set?
i am as of yet unsure, we wiped there and i decided to take a break...also im pugging
so every pug has a different idea
The issue is that 4 red shackles are huge AoEs so trying to get uptime with those is gonna be ass
and the fight is also somewhat...responsive?
like, shit doesnt snapshots til the last second
hushed sphinx
well, limit killed it with a lot of deaths and couple of damage downs I believe, and with losing downtime on chains, and it was still like 15 sec till enrage
so... probably fine?
dusk sapphire
oh yeah these are the markers im using
A is closer to center
and simbolyzes where blue chain stands
red chain stands on 1
for first shackles
torn kindle
it's that generous? pog
P3S: ||You place the black fires now|| 
Also ||two tank tethers on random party members right at the start||
dusk sapphire
you can max melee the red shackles and do blue inside boss
cant do, they clip each other
torn kindle
P3S ||Looks like the blackfires need multiple white fires to hit them?||
dusk sapphire
blue is a puddle
stable basin
I have diagram for that mechanic in 2
torn kindle
true artistry
lyric summit
cant do, they clip each other
dusk sapphire
https://clips.twitch.tv/SmellyReliableCrabsCorgiDerp-ZXubOZV7bvyCXK1y drk has up...
OH, that's right! the boss's hitbox is large as fuck
Thank you for telling me this, i shall adjust my strat for my next pug session
dusk sapphire
I have diagram for *that* mechanic in 2
Oi Pile, do you have to voke on TB cast? y'know, the flare/stack
stable basin
nope
well
if you invuln
cuz the second part goes on highest aggro
and it will oneshot the tank if they have vuln from kb
we just invulned the first couple because nothing better to invuln
dusk sapphire
we just invulned the first couple because nothing better to invuln
Huh...my pug tanks refused to invuln that
and just swapped, with mixed results
stable basin
why would they refuse to invuln lmao there's nothing else to use it on
dusk sapphire
IKR?
just invuln, take the 2 hits, then swap
And after, on the 2nd one, that happens on the pizza slices, invuln, take the 2 hits and swap back
Its a very deceptive pushback tho, tanks kept dying
leaden oyster
Is there a website to track the rwf leaderboard? Net to ff14 and very interested in this race 🙂
fallen rain
can anyone explain
the shackles?
why is it that only 2 ppl get the debuff, one for red and one for blue
but 4 ppl get the vfx?
lyric summit
red debuff shoots 3 farthest players, blue shoots 3 closest
fallen rain
oh woah
the VFX with chains around you
are the ones targeted by the red chain
ffs that confused me so much
lyric summit
yeah red get a circle and blue targets get a tether
fallen rain
is it hard?
stable basin
hard to quantify tbh
It has some kinda intricate stuff
There's time to adjust but you do need to figure how to adjust
quick verge
"pf is doomed" like pf is doomed every tier? or actually doomed this time
rain field
are there any guides for p1s yet
or atleast some explaining on intemperance i got hardstuck with my blind pf party on it
stable basin
it's pretty doomed
like idk maybe people will make it through
but have fun doing limit cut with both circles and dashes and either far left or right is cut off cuz you'll touch the poopoo and die
wild ether
if u got fire dark fire and n/s doesnt have ice do u just go to a random tile
lofty hornet
i have a question! whenever we get shackles i only see 2 people getting them
but in the video above the whole team got it
stable basin
purple debuff spreads purple to the closest 3 people to them, red spreads to the farthest 3 from them, if anyone has both red and purple they die
melee should stack mid, ranged either at their corners or just off to one side, red stands far and purple in the middle
jaunty yacht
are there any guides for p1s yet
Ayy i was in that PF with you
stable basin
if you're melee and you're red you still go far, color over role
finite plank
does fourfold mark players the same as the first chains?
subtle bone
Yep
dusk sapphire
why is it that only 2 ppl get the debuff, one for red and one for blue
Uptime strat for shackles
subtle bone
Fourfold is just the chains explode 4x lol
dusk sapphire
fourfold, just stay inside there
and do not go fuck with people
literally stand still
I know, it's too much to ask from PF
subtle bone
On boss 3 now zz i hate this arena
finite plank
does fourfold mark players the same as the first chains?
at the same time, is it fixed to both MT and OT or random?
lofty hornet
melee should stack mid, ranged either at their corners or just off to one side, ...
thank you!
stable basin
Fourfold is technically everyone gets a debuff and the mechanic happens 4x in quick succession
so all the people with purple go mid
and all the people with red go out
finite plank
i see
lofty hornet
always at a safe distance from everyone i assume
lofty hornet
that must be a confusion
stable basin
you'll be able to max melee but our safety prog strat was this
and you literally just sit there
pearl flicker
didnt get my pants this week 
so much pain
dusk sapphire
okay i frikkin love this positioning for the red blue chackles
bruh
that's not good for uptime
pearl flicker
i got the minion from p4 
stable basin
I threw more unmends than an MTQ guide and we still killed in under 9 mins
no dps check
also the numbers in p3s can go fuck themselves seriously
hushed sphinx
bird died, apparently
quick verge
oh
hushed sphinx
waiting footage from p4s
quick verge
orange arena pt. 2 :)
stable basin
like the arena looks like this
actually it's a little less violently orange with reshade off
at any rate the numbers are made out of discord light mode
idk why they had to give us numbers and make them hey count up the number of balls of liquid fire over your head
in this arena made of fire
subtle bone
cant see shit here
wild ether
how's p2 dps check
stable basin
we had a close enrage that was the most scuffed run known to man
wild ether
p2 how do u tell the boss is jebaiting
stable basin
castbar name
winged is jebait
and uhhh not winged is the same as normal mode
spoken I think?
subtle bone
yes
stable basin
brain full of birb now
wild ether
fallen rain
cursed lmao
pearl flicker
is the easiest way to get new tomestones last dungeon spam?
brave lynx
anyone know how the ice/fire mechanic of p1 is supposed to work?
my group is consistently getting there and planking
pearl flicker
the cubes or the pizza?
brave lynx
cubes
brave lynx
what are purples?
brave lynx
yes
stable basin
purple kills you
smoky swift
In Turn 1 do you have to tank swap the GRACE and
PURGATION tank busters?
hasty ermine
And P1s Kill Thanks T_T
stable basin
In Turn 1 do you have to tank swap the GRACE and
PURGATION tank busters?
yes, or invuln
jade sluice
viscid gust
what's your question?
quaint radish
is there a pug strat to doing chains?
viscid gust
hrm not sure if there's a agreed-upon strat since I was with a single group for 4 hours when it dropped
are you talking about the single one or the four-fold one?
the strat we used for the single one was to have the purple/red debuff people go to specific markers and rest of people fill out the near/far markers
quaint radish
so far i'm using outer corner markers and inner cardinal markers
the issue is that there's a raidwide before that and we have to stay nearby for healers
viscid gust
you're talking about the first thing where there's only two people with debuffs, right?
quaint radish
ye
viscid gust
I think you only need to stay there until the raidwide cast goes off
then you can move out
quaint radish
yeah but its generally absolute chaos and someone ends up dying
viscid gust
I'm medica2-ing everyone when that raidwide hits and I'm not sure what my cohealer was doing
that mechanic does very little damage
like maybe 1/4 hp, at most
viscid gust
each person should either have a purple tether or a red chain around them
if someone has both they'll die
quaint radish
yeah
that i get
but so far the strategy is to do last minute adjustments in pug
which usually is absolute chaos and someone ends up dying
viscid gust
we had "home" positions for the ranged and melee
and usually that works okay enough
(we also had 2 melee dps composition, so it split okay)
like normally I just went southeast as I was healer 2
I go to the designated red debuff corner if I get red or purple debuff inner spot if I get purple
I think we ended up doing healers SE/SW, caster/ranged in one of the north spots, and the one whose clock spot got taken by the red debuff position would just float
main zephyr
any pastebin or smth for the strats of p2s ?
jaunty yacht
Lmfao classical worth like 1/4 the price of what it was this morning
viscid gust
I walked into marketboard this morning, saw bottoms for 5 million, walked away lol
came back after raids and it was 500k
jaunty yacht
man MB makes me do a 360 and walk away sometimes
On the bright side I've made like 3m off of my aphorisms lmfao
stable basin
I walked into marketboard this morning, saw bottoms for 5 million, walked away l...
I took advantage of the early raiders and sold a tank chest piece for 10 million
main zephyr
can someone explain the numbers on p2s
jaunty yacht
Tell me you're a furry without saying you're a furry
torn kindle
The same thing, but label it as “18+” and “mature”
smoky swift
are there any write up of p2s?
blazing reef
im new to raiding where would i go to find a static
is there like a discord for raiding
drowsy agate
so tps is world first
but
how are the "wow convertee" groups doing
wasn't limit or some shit competing for world first too
pallid gorge
competing for 2nd they are
beating tps was never gonna happen 
it took tps shorter to clear p2s than for me to log in 
frank quiver
Heyo, is this accurate for this tier as well? Or have there been any changes?
round needle
no more belt
dark tide
is there a pug strat to doing chains?
I am wondering the same thing. We couldnt find a start that allowed all 4 red chains to keep max melee. We had to adopt a Rhombus like shape, which allowed 2 red chains to max melee and 2 have to be out which gives the best odds to have no melee be forced down time.
I would love to see a clip that shows good positions for all 4.
ember cosmos
give it a few days
uneven cypress
does anyone know the enrage timer on floor 1 savage?
fallen rain
does anyone know the enrage timer on floor 1 savage?
9:40ish
uneven cypress
ty
rich ingot
If you kill a boss on savage.. can you still re enter with another group and you just have loot lockout or do you have an instance lockout?
steady pebble
you can re-enter, but you reduce the group's loot
opaque grail
so during intemperance, the assumption is everyone has to take their own spot on the outer grid when it isn't purple. If that is true during the second one. How does one solve this puzzle? There isn't anyone to take the north spot during the second intemperance
drowsy agate
competing for 2nd they are
yea sure but I wanna know how they're stacking up on the world first lol
just curious since one guild got like a full crafted set and personal guidance from sfia or something
subtle bone
so during intemperance, the assumption is everyone has to take their own spot on...
warrior had to go north
opaque grail
then they just take the damage down for third?
or do you not take a damage down for going into the same color?
subtle bone
nvm sorry looks like the sage just stepped off the tile at the snapshot
everything else was correct
ashen root
so during intemperance, the assumption is everyone has to take their own spot on...
So our group generally had people who had to go to either north or south tower to get the opposing buff to then soak their tower since their stack would be red purple red or blue purple blue
It sorta seemed to take care of itself. If your tower had one of each, you soaked, mid, soaked. If you had 2 of the same, you soaked, when north or south to change debuff, and went back to soak 3rd
subtle bone
they did it right just healer died on the line
opaque grail
so you do not need to be in both the north and south for second intemp
sinful brook
no purple is the important bit
if you need to readjust your debuff colour you go north/south as necessary or just standin the middle if you don't
subtle bone
so you do not need to be in both the north and south for second intemp
sorry i was wrong, kinda forgot lol. you need non purple cubes soaked so needed someone north there
and no you would have a few people adjust, tank would have to swap with a dps/healer tile for the 3rd
edited- yea you need a swap with dps on 3
opaque grail
then they would both be mid for second intemp
and no one can take north because dps need to stay mid and healers need to go blue
we go into second with 6 red and 2 blue
yeah
tanks are the only ones who could possible take north. then we are stuck with 5 red and 3 blue for final intemp
subtle bone
currently debunking this with my friends now lol
opaque grail
yeah I guess 1 dps south with healers, 1 tank at north.
gets you 4 red 4 blue
then swap with north tank
just a shit pattern
hot damn
opaque grail
you need 4 red 4 blue to clear 3rd intemp
you go into second intemp with 6 red 2 blue
opaque grail
its the second pattern above
covert ledge
oh, no i was asking about the bottom one lol
the healers are intercards for this part
covert ledge
yea thats what my static did too
opaque grail
guess we just weren't fluid enough
covert ledge
assigned spots, worked fine
we had deaths but they were related to different things lmfao
subtle bone
yea we did static spots too, sometimes got damage down sometimes didnt lul
opaque grail
that chart is pretty good. either same spots, go clockwise or go couterclockwise
1 2 or 3
subtle bone
ya
lyric summit
is it some 6head uptime thing i dont understand with people switching places for intemperance
cause you can just solve every pattern by going yours-prepare for 3rd-yours
and there's so much time to move
viscid gust
That method requires there be a double ice to soak the north fire for 2nd. There’s patterns where there’s only double fire but no double ice.
subtle bone
lyric summit
show me a screenshot of a pattern that cant be solved with solo responsibility
sinful brook
Running this in pf I've just been taking an L when those patterns appear
shrewd beacon
1st circle
After purple & red chains dubuff goes out, is it the distance from those two players that determines how you're hit?
Or is the rest of the party divided up later?
shrewd beacon
Ahhhh got it
hasty ermine
Anyone already created a BiS for Reaper?
verbal oak
Anyone already created a BiS for Reaper?
!faq balance
storm frostBOT
verbal oak
if its not there it'll be the first place it comes out
winged hare
3 pieces for 8 people and if you dont get anything, you get a 1/4 single piece
Sick squeen
sick
hasty ermine
okay serious question: Do i have to do my positionals during the P2s boss fight?
lyric summit
no, there's no gap in the back meaning you get positionals at every side
tight helm
is there a macro for p2s yet?
austere mural
Has anyone figured out a safe way to do fourfold chains? Is it just melees in, ranged out and hope there's not too much switching to do?
dusk sapphire
just wanted to share my first orange parse
I am more proud of it cuz i dont use Crafted gear
dusk sapphire
I had this answer on reddit, I'm gonna try it out tomorrow with the team
That way nobody runs like headless chickens
The debuff is 3 seconds? Yes, but it takes like 6 seconds to actually procc
So you got plenty of time to get in position, have everyone stack in center prior
viscid gust
3 seconds to activate and show chains and a few more seconds for the explosion
austere mural
The 3s is when the other chains appear I think
dusk sapphire
Irrelevant
The other chains are dynamic
And can be transferred if the distance changes
viscid gust
It’s just a visual indicator to let you do any minor adjustments or check if you’re doing it right.
dusk sapphire
Still... anyone has any diagram to do tiles in a non-dmg down way?
austere mural
I don't have the diagram but if east and west is Fire - Purple - Fire, you can just have everyone rotate clockwise one time for the third element
dusk sapphire
I don't have the diagram but if east and west is Fire - Purple - Fire, you can j...
Oh so voice chat then
Except i pug 
Well i guess tank will need to just soak it
austere mural
I mean, there's "two" patterns. The pattern where everyone takes care of their own square, and the one where you rotate
dull radish
we just had people take care of their own square, and fix their color if needed with the second one (and stand in mid if they don't)
drowsy agate
so just to clarify
all you gotta do is have people get into those positions based on debuff
and boom ez mechanic?
dusk sapphire
and boom ez mechanic?
Yeah
And they must stand still
On the markers
The outside markers ensure max melee
dull radish
I don't think it matters for which duration goes where
dusk sapphire
I don't think it matters for which duration goes where
Of course it doesnt, but separating it by duration ensures no 2 persons go to the same position
drowsy agate
we saw fourfold after about an hour and a half of prog last night
dull radish
I guess
dusk sapphire
Its just a foolproof way to do it
drowsy agate
how much left is in the fight
dusk sapphire
Ehh... like 4 mechs and then enrage
dull radish
I tend to think of that as like, extra brainpower to figure out where exactly to go haha, but I guess for pugs it might help
dusk sapphire
So like 4 mechs, then 3 raidwides, then enrage
drowsy agate
so pretty close I guess
dusk sapphire
I tend to think of that as like, extra brainpower to figure out where exactly to...
Also Rika i got an orange on SGE 
are u proud my friend?
dusk sapphire
so pretty close I guess
The DPS check is like 39k total for the whole team
I had a 1% enrage on 38500~ DPS
dull radish
oh nice, congrats
austere mural
For the second temperature pattern our team thought of this strat
Just have north (or south) switch square with one of the intercardinal for the 3rd square, it should work either from the top or bottom and only two people need to ajust instead of the entire party
iron hawk
has anyone whos done the map portals yet got past 3rd floor? I did tons last night never happened once
obsidian wren
Still... anyone has any diagram to do tiles in a non-dmg down way?
That's how we solved it
only two people actually have to pay attention
triple ice is a given anyways, and if the other two variations come up, this should work
And nobody should get damage down
dusk sapphire
Thank u
I just hope pugs will try it
Cuz nobody is gonna want to MT if we stick to "braindead" strat
stable basin
I feel like pugs are gonna adopt this
I sure hope they do at least 
but it's pretty simple
and ppl love the "make one or two people pay attention" strats
instead of the rotate the whole formation gigabrain 4d chess ppl are trying to push
obsidian wren
i saw the "rotate everyone" strat, and then for the alternate even different positions - like, no, that is never gonna work in PF, even with dedicated ones
tight helm
is there a macro for p2s yet? Haven't run into any parties with one yet, and googling doesn't give anything
fallen rain
that's how I liked solving it
and I hope it gets more popular because it will make pugs easier :3
it's broken
quasi saffron
what to do with the purple crystals in the first savage raid of endwalker ?
lyric summit
dodge
quasi saffron
how ? where do i have to stand ?
shrewd beacon
1st Circle
There is no early indication of gem pattern b4 their spawn right?
fallen rain
how ? where do i have to stand ?
use my link above :3
dusk sapphire
how ? where do i have to stand ?
Any of the middle spots depending on what's the other element
U can do mid, mid N or mid S, depending on your element and the element left
sinful brook
use my link above :3
your toolbox presumes that pf will assign clock positions like that where the 2 tanks are responsible but its more likely a ranged dps or a healer will be there tbh
but its still fine to use with that substitution
fallen rain
it's just because I like it better
for tanks to learn
and the rest to derp
but yeah
I get your point
frank quiver
Heyo, are these two representations the only possible arrangements (of elements) for P1S? Or are there more? Ignore the strat itself. Just trying to figure out what’s possible.
wide pilot
They are the only ones I’ve seen
stable basin
yo anyone tryna do delubrum reginae for artifact weapons
arctic vortex
is level 90 crafted gear better t han the lvl 570 tome gear?
sinful brook
yes its ilvl580 and can be pentamelded for substats
gritty perch
hello all haven't seen this posted here yet
SE confiming that P2S is bugged
if you overmitigate on water slides, anyone who takes 0 damage will die
hasty ermine
Could this also count for the limit cut Mechanic? We did it right but somehow there is so much damage that ut kills us with a single 100k damage
dull radish
bit more likely that people are getting clipped or otherwise you're doing the mechanic slightly incorrectly. Hard to say without a video/log
full wave
P1S is a simple fight made difficult in pugs because you have to make upbfor the lack of communication and I despise it
What is a simple way to handle the tiles?
Without the damage down I mean
hasty ermine
Its an annoying mechanic thats for sure
pallid gorge
there are only 3 cases psure
at least my group encountered only 3 cases: easiest is triple ice south; the other 2 have same formation at south but varies based on top or bottom first explodes
hasty ermine
Do we have an idiot safe strat for p2s limit cut?
pallid gorge
my group did this
`the 4 people who spread use true north then clockwise: so 1 goes north, 2 goes east, so on
the 13 and 24 pairs use the ded square as starting point with 13 goes clockwise and 24 goes ccw from it`
dull radish
we had 2/4 for body stay where the boss jumped to for shockwave, and 1/3 across from the body. We roughly planned to have the 1 (head) between there and the murky water, and 2/3/4 placed around the arena from there away from the murky square
pallid gorge
not sure if idiot proof but we cleared and i’m an idiot soo xD
dull radish
but realistically for head just kinda let tank/melee try to stay closer to where the boss was after shockwave
full wave
I was told that regardless of the order of the explosions if south has 3 ice everyone can do basic solving and return to their spot at the end.
And it seems like this holds up?
pallid gorge
ye that’s why it’s the easiest case
dull radish
so instead of worrying about what colors are what, or whether it starts from top or bottom
pallid gorge
it’s only when it’s not ice x3 that’s things get wonky
dull radish
I really just recommend everyone take care of their own square, swapping color if they need to. And then like, NW and N people always swap their colors
and swap squares if needed for the final one
and that will always resolve it
full wave
Mrhappy claims that if it's 1 fire 2 ice then S and NW can just swap but there's no way it's that simple.
Buuut he also cleared the fight so I should maybe just go check his vod
pallid gorge
for my group, if top explodes first, then south and sw will swap; if bottom first, then n and ne will swap
dull radish
you can do it like I mentioned and you won't have to have to pay attention to that
fairly certain it will always resolve cleanly that way
full wave
Oh wait that's what Rika just said
Wait you said N and NW swap. So there's more than one way to do it.
dull radish
yeah it doesn't really matter much, but I prefer like N and NW since they're right next to each other
full wave
Makes perfect sense
dull radish
and it's usually like, ranged dps and tank up there
pallid gorge
gotta try that o/
dull radish
we actually had never gotten a pattern until the run we cleared with where we actually had to make any adjustments, we noticed looking at it the day after (we assumed that someone had just made a mistake)
frank quiver
In P1S, is it possible for ranged to bait all red chains by staying far away? When does it snapshot?
pallid gorge
red chain tethers to 3 furthest people
so 4 people have to be in on it
arrange your group so that there are 4 people inner to do blue chain and 4 people outer to do red chain
vestal zealot
In P1S, is it possible for ranged to bait all red chains by staying far away? Wh...
Snapshots at the end of the debuff timer
full wave
We did ranged out melee in. Every one has a partner so they can swap if melee gets a red or ranged gets a blue
verbal oak
“I didn’t study but I still want to blame others”
covert crest
For p1s, anyway to see the flails during the shadow realm better? Colors too vibrant
lucid holly
PF moment
weary bone
literally finding a PF group able of beating the first boss is harder than the boss itself
got to enrage last night, been fighting the last ~3 hours in PFs tagged completion and enrage
stable basin
yooo they put heavensfall trio in p4s
subtle bone
scuffed version
weary bone
4% enrage last pull, 30 mins left on the clock, server instability DCs our SAM, 4k queue, disband
weary bone
anyways, anyone know how to find an FC dedicated to raiding? this PF shit just ain't it
sinful brook
fcs aren't typically how raiding happens
statics (groups of 8 players) are how it usually happens in terms of organized conducting of it
stable basin
oof get good
vernal breach
Socializing savage
pulsar halo
P1S Ygen up time with no damage https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/rx5ije/simple_no_damage_down_p1s_tiles_strat_pffriendly/
vestal zealot
P1S Ygen up time with no damage https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/rx5ije/s...
Same idea but easier to visualize
stable basin
"simple"
you think 8 idiots are all gonna pay attention to the boss' hands and the specific order of elements on a square that's not theirs
just take care of yourself and make tank+pranged flex if they need to to avoid dmg down, ezclap
sinful brook
just take care of yourself and make tank+pranged flex if they need to to avoid d...
I've just had my coheal take the ne clock in pf and adjust with me
ocean forge
So where do all jobs stands right now?
Can I get like a quick summary on the current status of all the jobs?
gritty perch
It's a little hard to tell after the adjustments yesterday
RPR is king
SMN, PLD, and DNC are all the worst of their roles.
ocean forge
To be fair, for the most part, yesterday adjustment doesn't mess with potency that much
Monk is QoL
gritty perch
I haven't heard yet whether the changes to NIN have brought it closer to par with other melee yet
I doubt it though
ocean forge
What's the problem with SMN, PLD, and DNC?
gritty perch
All three are undertuned
Needed buffs and did not get them.
Still can clear savage of course
But at a disadvantage compared to their counterparts
ocean forge
So nothing crippling then
dusk sapphire
just take care of yourself and make tank+pranged flex if they need to to avoid d...
Ez clap
Literally 1/2 movements
MT: north, north, NE/NW(1 move)
North>south>NE/NW(2 moves from north)
If no adjust, then MT goes N>N>N so 0 movement
weary bone
statics (groups of 8 players) are how it usually happens in terms of organized c...
nyehh
all the statics advertise for like 9pm starts
meanwhile I start playing at 1-2pm rn
quasi saffron
so, at first savage raid. what if i have purple chain and a red ring around me ?
in our out ?
weary bone
look at your debuffs window
weary bone
red chain is out I believe
quasi saffron
the purple chains were irritating me
i got the red debuff and purple chains with players in the middle
dusk sapphire
the purple chains were irritating me
its dynamic
the buffs can move between players depending on distance until the last second
quasi saffron
until last second ? how should i react in time then ?
i see purple chain, i stay in. i see red rings or red debuff i go out but purple chains and red ring, idk
cobalt fog
anyone have timeline for P4S phase 2 ?
covert ledge
nyehh
all the statics advertise for like 9pm starts
meanwhile I start playing at...
thats cause people have jobs lol
or school, thats why most statics are evenings
weary bone
Smh my head
chilly frost
for the love of god
pls just use this https://saltedxiv.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/FITU86WX0AUltOD.png
dont try to make 8 people rotate till next week holy shit
topaz wolf
chilly frost
i see this 8person rotate stuff everywhere now on ppl still sitting on p1s
im new, not a wow player, still had sprout going in p1s
and witht he pic above we managed in 2 tries lol
its simple, ppl make it so unneccessary hard
2ppl have to pay attention here, noone takes dmg, that's it kek
lucid holly
shouldn't everyone end up in their OG spots, with MT N and OT S?
I've been resolving it in PF with First pop is OGs, resolve elements in second pop (going to diff tile or mid), then back to OG in third
then Tanks just have to either stay in their square all 3, go to mid for second, or go to other tank for second, then back to og tile for third
two of the DPS movements in the in the above graph have the DPS on a tank tile for third pop
crisp falcon
holy molly this is so complicated lmao
I did N/M/ South and completed it. The healers had to just focus on healing and use shield + defensive buff on themselves for the third crystal if it's the same element
sinful brook
shouldn't everyone end up in their OG spots, with MT N and OT S?
Not necessarily, sometimes the pattern can result in a tank receiving a damage down from wrong element. So as a tank having a ranged float for you would be ideal to resolving the mechanic.
obsidian wren
https://ff14.toolboxgaming.space/?id=823346585731461&preview=1
that would make 3 people adjust, but you can have only two adjust
woeful violet
that would make 3 people adjust, but you can have only two adjust
that's 2
only 2 ppl exchange their end position
always range and ot
obsidian wren
just the mt that is
shared this yesterday somewhen, basically same with MT [non-triple-ice]
woeful violet
yup that's the same
drowsy agate
during tiles it's safe to stand in the purple lines between each tile up until the boxes explode right
pearl flicker
time to learn p1s 
quasi saffron
question about first chains in savage 1. sometimes i get a purple chain icon and sometimes not. why ?
i know i have to stay close but why sometimes icon and sometimes not
sinful brook
question about first chains in savage 1. sometimes i get a purple chain icon and...
It only assigns the purple chain debuff and the red chain debuff to one person each in your party respectively. The chains then latch onto closest 3 people to the person with the debuff (purple) and furthest 3 (red). So you don't necessarily need to have the debuff just need to be in the correct position to bait the chain you're supposed to.
quasi saffron
ah ok. just one player gets red or purple icon. tyvm!
second chains are easier imo because everyone knows what they will get
pearl flicker
does everyone in pf finder relatively follow the exact same resolve for phase 2 in p1s for either form of cube things
pf not pf finder
peak night
anyone know fastest way to spiritbond lvl 90 gear atm?
surreal leaf
second chains are easier imo because everyone knows what they will get
can the fourfold be baited? i thought it was random
obsidian wren
no but you get a debuff way ahead of it resolving, and can just go to that specific location
surreal leaf
idk if id say way ahead lol but yeah my group use the timer position strat
full wave
It's definitely not way ahead you have 3 seconds to get in position
sinful brook
You have more than 3s
Thats 3s that tells you that your buff resolves first, then you have 5s before your buff resolves, totalling to 8s for the shortest debuff @full wave @surreal leaf
4gcds is a lot of time
full wave
I see. That makes the wipes even more infuriating.
tight helm
how's p3s's difficulty and dps check? A lot of parties in PF couldn't make p2s properly, so if its much worse I might wait a couple of weeks for pubs to get better gear
hasty ermine
So what is your buying order with gear? Will you bother getting the 590 weapon?