party finders are good C:
#endgame-lounge
night harbor
most people are scared of doing savage raids so they never try doing them unless their friends tag them along
you can always start ur own prog party
and theres a lot of vets (in my experience) that join and help
silver sparrow
Yeah I'm just slogging through the duty finder atm, it's not so bad once I ticked all the languages... 3 down 9 to go =p (normal mode)
stable basin
Isn't it? From what I remember reading they both seem to be fairly similar for SAM
verbal oak
Isn't it? From what I remember reading they both seem to be fairly similar for S...
crit buffs both the damage AND proc chance
DH only increases proc chance of a direct hit
for some classes like SAM who dont have any control over procs it doesn't matter as much
comapred to like MCH which hits a button and crits its next weaponskill
stable basin
can anyone help me with memoria misera Ex
no one seems to queue for it anymore so idk at this point
synced or unsynced works fine i just want to unlock dyable job armor gear
glossy musk
it seems i've been doing everything wrong now
vivid otter
Snow Pea
waxen crescent
You don't queue for an extreme at all
one time i tried to do Titan EX solo for WT, but forgot to set it to undersized andended up accidentally queueing for it in DF. Got matched instantly so I didn't realize it would be synced with 7 other players, 3 of whom were new to it. Took us half an hour to clear it lmao
this was like last month
damn, i have to go buy a goldsmith hammer just so i can upgrade my dragonsung hammer lmao
covert ledge
one time i tried to do Titan EX solo for WT, but forgot to set it to undersized ...
doesnt mean its regularly clearable lol
fair relic
any sugestion for BLM augmented law weapon?
torn kindle
any sugestion for BLM augmented law weapon?
Black Mage:
For Crit builds:
Critical Hit > Spell Speed > Direct Hit
For Spell Speed builds:
Spell Speed > Direct Hit > Determination
pine patio
Depends on the rest of your gear. Do what Wynne said. Reason you dont want crit on a fast build is that crit scales exponentially. If you try to get a lot of speed, you already used too many points to get to an acceptable level of crit. At that point the linear damage increase (DH) is stronger
dull radish
it's not specifically that you use too many points on sps, but more that there aren't any sps + crit pieces of gear
so if you stack sps, you end up not getting much crit, at which point yeah crit isn't as valuable
if, on the other hand, there were sps + crit pieces of gear, you'd definitely invest in crit even with a high sps set
mighty agate
What do you do with your mettle once you're rank 25 ?
lyric summit
after you clear dalriada you can trade it for permanent damage/defense/healing buffs in bozja
final iron
Whats BiS for uwu? Is 510+IL gear fine or do we need the level 70 gear?
sinful brook
Whats BiS for uwu? Is 510+IL gear fine or do we need the level 70 gear?
!faq ultimatesync
storm frostBOT
sinful brook
tl;dr if you're over the item level listed there you cap both substats on pieces of gear when its synced down. that said you can get gear that syncs better or farm out pieces of ghimlyt dark/sigmascape/i370 tome gear to fine tune what you want
and also add melds
final iron
Melds for +40 not 60 right?
torn kindle
If you’re using level 80 gear melds are pointless for UWU/UCOB due to syncing down
brave lynx
Hi. Is there any groups that run fates in the tempest?
i just found out about the frog suit
stiff steppe
There are discords that track when boss fates and such appear
stiff steppe
i just found out about the frog suit
You can check #resources to see if there's one for your DC
mighty agate
what's a good lost stuff combo for SMN ?
glossy basalt
Caster DPS can typically run things like Ordained Essence if you wanna use Lost Flare Star, lost font of power is always good (I think that’s what it’s called), having lost chain spell is nice, there is the insta cast AOE that increases magic damage dealt if it’s vulnerable, but I forgot what it’s called
Oh banner of noble ends
Is another thing
stiff steppe
you're tethered to one of them and you have to move away from them until the tether turns purple, otherwise you'll die
you also can't get hit by more than one, otherwise you'll die
night harbor
oooooooooooooooooo
fair rock
is samurai better with skill speed or crit?
stiff steppe
is samurai better with skill speed or crit?
stiff steppe
i been looking at this for 5 min and i still cant understand a thing ;
I'm not a SAM player but TLDR crit is better for max DPS but the difference is small enough that you're better off playing whatever you like more
fair rock
ah ok thank you
still inlet
SAM is like BLM where various stat builds will work solidly and the differences won't matter a big deal in general.
The above is showing how they're all fairly close to one another per the dps models, with a bias to the 2.14s GCD set that's a tad slower in favour of more in other stats, but there's nothing wrong with going fast unless you start hard clipping on your Iai jutsu
What the image doesn't help with though is in showing how many is in each stat, but those gear sets are current raid bis anyway. If you're new, focus on ilvl until you're at the highest ilvl gear. Then those gear sets will matter, and if you're not raiding, then go with full tome gear
fair rock
ok thank you.
rotund atlas
😢
steady pebble
not the channel for this
rotund atlas
It literally is end game discussion. M
steady pebble
this for endgame content, i.e savage/extremes,etc
not discussing the story
either use the ARR story thread that's part of #beginner-lounge or use #archived-lore-spoilers
final iron
Quick question, whats generally considered the easiest role in uwu?
stable basin
melee dps by far
only melee-specific responsibility is walk into the friction bubble when everyone's hp is high enough to survive
final iron
What about Caster?
Its just grabbing a tether in garuda and then baiting eruptions in ifrit right?
stable basin
none of the dps have anything too crazy to do tbh
difficulty in caster is more figuring out how to not cancel half your casts because of mechanics
and like the baits aren't that hard to do but melee don't even have that
south onyx
suggestions for MNK augmented law's order?
final iron
Great thanks, I learned half the fight as OT so just wanted to know how the other jobs do in comparison
chrome crane
I wonder will DRS ne very hard next expansion
due to it's Savage like mechs
like I know you can cheese mechs, but from my experience when doing it I doubt it's going to get any easier
even if you can cheese with valours there are still many mechanics there that are #pain
night harbor
is lions really that hard for e12s?
it seems pretty easy once you memorize where to go
stiff steppe
that can be said for basically any mechanic in the game
lions is easy to mess up
if you're too far off from your spot, your cone's gonna kill someone
if you're getting north or south lions and you aren't the one who gets targeted for whatever reason, everyone dies
night harbor
if you're getting north or south lions and you aren't the one who gets targeted ...
ah i see
so its more of like
technical spaghetti code pixel placement of your character
stiff steppe
kinda
night harbor
it honestly doesnt look too difficult
considering that i feels like you move once during the entire thing if u have the tether
also what should the boss' health be at during junction titan?
lilac cipher
yeh
like other mechanic, just don't kill other people, don't die and hit the boss like usual
versed vapor
if you're too far off from your spot, your cone's gonna kill someone
Not an issue if you do bilibili
Fuck line honestly lmao
nova socket
its the exact opposite tho?
on line you have much more space for baiter than in lions
pastel cobalt
I find Bili really easy if you have small lions and really annoying if you have big lions. But I don't really have any experience with any other strats, so I dunno how they compare
lament thunder
This might be a bit of a weird question, but a friend of mine and I have been struggling to find a static to prog UWU, would it be a bad idea to just bite the bullet and try progging it through PF?
versed vapor
I find Bili really easy if you have small lions and really annoying if you have ...
Bili is literally just stand in waymark and ur done
No brain required
No extra idea behind it
Just cross the lions and stand in WM
pastel cobalt
For big lions, I mean. Maybe my static had somewhat janky markers, but when I was not baiting my big lion, I could stand in the marker and still be close enough to steal their big lion bait, or far enough to get clipped by a small lion cone
versed vapor
Line need to check if big/small
TT doesnt need that shit
TT is just cross your lion regardless of what it is
sinful brook
This might be a bit of a weird question, but a friend of mine and I have been st...
we're less than a month out from EW release, so its likely there aren't many groups looking to start a new ultimate, given that a lot of them wouldn't be able to clear within this month without a lot of time spent. That said, there are well established PF strats for the fight, and personally I've been able to see quite a bit of the fight from pf, not that it wasn't the usual PF memes most of the time
burnt viper
My static is starting ultimate next week : > The UWU PF strats where I’m on (Light) require you to have a plug-in so I’m super out on that
But other than that I think you can prog through ultimate fine with PF as long as you temper your expectations
lyric summit
if you mean the jail plugin then only 5 people need the plugin
MT doesn't get them, one guy you can put always on the back if they get jail and one guy always in the front
stiff steppe
speaking as someone who's done titan gaols without the plugin
you'll regret not having it
nova socket
Just use number priority it's not hard
All pre-type 1-7 in chat if you get gaol press enter twice and you have your order
lilac cipher
requires to have plugin? o.O
nova socket
If you fail from that ur just bad
sinful brook
People just hard rely on automarkers
desert dew
evening guys, i have some questions regarding endgame. i just finished SB MSQ and did the NieR Raid, what should i aim to do after that?
bronze cosmos
I've seen a few videos of people using a raid style plugin, which does a text to speech or screen text warning for mechanics etc?
I used one raiding on EverQuest called GINA but I didn't think FFXIV would have one.
Is this a common thing for endgame raiding and ultimates etc?
sinful brook
I would really say it's common or uncommon but you're fully able to just do the mechanics without the use of cactbot triggers
bronze cosmos
Thank you for the info, I'm happy just learning mechanics personally but it just caught my eye when I witnessed it on a stream so I thought I would ask what it was.
Thanks again
verbal oak
evening guys, i have some questions regarding endgame. i just finished SB MSQ an...
eden raids, weapon trials, and then prepping the class you want for endwalker
new raids out around christmas so people are looking for statics around now
burnt viper
evening guys, i have some questions regarding endgame. i just finished SB MSQ an...
I rank the difficulty like Alliance Raids -> Normal Raids -> EX trials -> Savage Raids -> Ultimates. Each step up builds on mechanical complexity and class understanding & DPS requirement.
burnt viper
requires to have plugin? o.O
and yeah, all the parties I've seen on Light have the requirement to use AM (auto markers) when joining them. Just means that if you don't like using plug-ins you're out of luck and need to find a static
desert dew
Thanks! Will look to do more difficult raids! (Maybe start eden first)
sinful brook
and yeah, all the parties I've seen on Light have the requirement to use AM (aut...
You don't necessarily need the plugin but they might just run it
I've always just marked myself when I see the debuff
shut sentinel
I haven't seen any PF parties on Crystal require auto-markers that I know of, at least not in the descriptions.
spark lily
are the enmity lasers in Cloud Deck EX physical or magical damage?
quick verge
are the enmity lasers in Cloud Deck EX physical or magical damage?
magic
supple herald
The last bonus DPS is a non-ranged. Either second caster or second melee without repeating jobs.
You don't want two phys ranged
sinful brook
2 phys ranged is fine
supple herald
For normal raids sure
not having a second caster or second melee for Savage/Ultimate is a big dps diff
supple herald
Have you cleared an Ultimate with two ranged phys?
I mean, I believe it's definitely possible
But might take more skill to achieve (especially TEA)
Prob MCH + DNC/BRD
But not BRD + DNC
shut sentinel
Do Ultimates really have serious DPS checks that'd make you rule classes out like that? My impression of higher end content in this game has generally been that it's a matter of mechanics/team skill more than anything else, but I haven't fucked with ultimates yet so maybe I'm mistaken on that front.
sinful brook
double phys ranged is fine
even skimming fflogs really quickly you can find double phys ranged tea clears
and in brd/dnc format too
for example
sinful brook
Do Ultimates really have serious DPS checks that'd make you rule classes out lik...
no is the short answer
hard crow
any tank that'll be able to sub for tea?
stiff steppe
try using #494379215420915712 to look for people
stable basin
On release, ultis have enough of a check in the final phase that an average group risks enrage with a single death
but just stronger pots + dungeon gear give a good bit of wiggle room, and even more from relic
The L70 ones have also gotten blasted by potency changes
frank quiver
I assume stat squishing will make DPS checks harder, but no clue how impactful that will be.
stiff steppe
I assume stat squishing will make DPS checks harder, but no clue how impactful t...
Stat squishing is explicitly supposed to not affect our power level in any way
The numbers are changing relative to each other to make them numerically smaller so SE isn't risking the game crapping itself in the backend
That's it
torn kindle
We’ll only notice it in undersized content assuming there’s no “missing spots” they forgot to squish
And even then for undersize, they’re adding a new echo buff for that scenario to help keep things fast
still inlet
There's a lot of moving parts where we'll need to ascertain if, all else would be equal, that how we are post squish * the echo buff will be ~= to where we were before, or if not, how far off from it
But otherwise it's true that the intent is that it should all be relative
toxic dragon
hey all. is party finder the best way to play some of the eden promise savage content? or is discord a better way to find a party to help a noob lol
just finished the eden normal. wanted to figure out best approach to savage content
stiff steppe
Party finder is the most common way
stiff steppe
just finished the eden normal. wanted to figure out best approach to savage cont...
before going in though I'd suggest you get as high ilvl gear as you can and review your job's rotation and meld stat priority to make sure you're as prepared as possible
toxic dragon
thank you! i havent melded this armor since i think it will be relatively quick before i swithc it out hopefully. will look into it. im at 515 overall rn
stiff steppe
most parties I see require 520 at this point, since if you really want to get into raiding this late there's no real reason for you not to
you can always make your own though
toxic dragon
520.. hmm okay should be doable. just got a few pieces to swap out then
stiff steppe
keep in mind, we have like
a month before those raids are statistically obselete
so you might also consider doing your research about the mechanics since progging blind probably won't get you very far
wheat marsh
so you might also consider doing your research about the mechanics since proggin...
i still often find you need to experience it before the mechanics really start to click
versed vapor
i still often find you need to experience it before the mechanics really start t...
That be part of it
But reading a good guide on mechanic how to, will speed up your understanding of doing the mechanic properly therefore learning it
final iron
How bad is having 2 of the same jobs in uwu?
stable basin
fine, as long as you lb cheese transition which you should be doing anyway
zinc jetty
Does leveling in eureka get better or worse? I just finished anemos
lilac cipher
get the crypt armor, it will be easier if you have it
cobalt kettle
Bozja's hella fun, but if we could go through one instance or event without someone betraying us that'd be nice
tranquil bison
Anyone know where I can find some groups to grind glamour? 
stiff steppe
if it's for a dungeon, just queue for it or unsync it as a tank if it's old enough
if it's for old savages, you could probably find folks in pf to unsync it with you
cobalt fog
Have you cleared an Ultimate with two ranged phys?
my friend's team cleared TEA last year with BRD and MCH in their team
I cleared UCOB with BRD and MCH in the team as well
Ultimates DPS check is not 'that' tight tbh (non existent for 70s Ult now)
bronze crater
Hi, what's the highest Item level in the game currently, and what activities do you get this gear from?
I recently got to the endgame (literally did my first ever extreme trail a day ago) and I was wondering what the flow of the endgame is
*trial
bronze crater
Oh okay
Thanks fam
I gotta say the game is so much fun! I can't get enough of it lol
stable basin
General loot progression is
New tier launches
Crafted and normal raid gear is +10 ilvls over previous max
EX trial weapon is +15 ilvls over previous max (technically +10 over the last weapon but savage weapons are always +5 over the rest)
Weekly capped tomestone gear is +20
Savage raid gear and upgraded capped tome gear is +30
Tome weapon is same ilvl as tome gear, savage raid weapon is +5
Capped tome, normal raid, and savage raid gear is weekly capped - nraid is one win per floor per week, savage is one roll per week. Tome upgrades come from savage.
In odd patch, new 24man launches with weekly-limited gear at +20 over previous max and also give items for upgrading tome gear. New EX trial launches with +25 weapon. Crafted gear can be augmented to +20 using uncapped tome.
Hopefully that all makes sense 
Second tier in ShB was i500 max/i505 savage weapon so this tier was
i510 normal raid
i510 crafted/i520 upgraded crafted
i515 launch EX, i525 later EX
i520 capped tome
i520 24man
i530 upgraded tome/savage
i535 savage weapon and final relic
short notch
nova socket
I just had a tea clear with 4 deaths in final phase lol
grave ice
Hello all. I’m new here. I’m also new to endgame as well. Been playing the game off and on for three years and have managed to catch up. My question is, would it be pointless to grind end game gear if I plan on switching to reaper when EndWalker is released? Or just wait until Endgame for EndWalker
verbal oak
I'd say wait tbh
quick verge
you have a month, so might as well fill that time
can get maiming gear so you have an easier time leveling reaper regardless
verbal oak
ye thats also true
quick verge
and you'll get experience in endgame content before EW comes, making it easier to adjust to whatever content comes out
grave ice
Ok. Thanks guys.
I’m extremely excited for the new content, and reaper. My main is currently SMN but the changes look confusing, so I look forward to trying something that looks more streamlined
Also excited that I get to dive right into the new stuff
verbal oak
I'm the other way around. SMN looks ez pz but i can't quite figure out reaper yet hahaha
i main MCH tho so im gucchi
lyric summit
reaper is like mch if you squint really hard
enshroud is the hypercharge
and the gauges is like if you did the uhhh thing to the thing and it gives you gauge after that one skill
versed vapor
@sinful brook you reckon i can get into uwu with like ilvl 500 shit
lmao
on phys range
dull radish
yeah, i470+ caps both substats in uwu. There can be potential for min-maxing which utilizes some i375 pieces but it'd be really minor--the dps checks aren't especially an issue. If you can get shb relic it's of course quite strong to use synced, but really just i470+ gear is more than enough for the fights
versed vapor
yeah, i470+ caps both substats in uwu. There can be potential for min-maxing whi...
Quick stupid question (being made to play dnc tmr having touched it once lmao) do you devilment after tech still on 70 rotation?
Given i dont have flourish
I dont quite have the reasoning behind why you devilment after tech for the most part i only know you do it bc its optimal but why?
dull radish
it's usually more for your dance partner than yourself
versed vapor
Ohhhhh i get it
Right
Not used to phys ranged
Im the 1% to the boss hp
All i need to do is to be the step slut for the dps is it
dull radish
from a selfish point of view at 70 you probably use it early, would kinda depend on who you have partnered and if they'd do better with the later timing
versed vapor
Ig so yeah
For example if its drg
I eant it early so it lines up with his 2 mins
If its like smn or whatever i pop it late given he bursts later
Sorta deal
mighty agate
If I could see damage coming, I could dodge, more reliable than CDs
but yeah the defense honors must help
mighty agate
I don't know the instance enough to know when to pop cds for them
versed vapor
prob garuda or ifrit i assume depending on kill time ya
ive only gotten up to suppression
but as a caster
idk how dancer plays lmao
ig ill see tomorrow
you mean for phase transitions ya?
so i never hold standard is it
just tech?
ohhh i see i see
📓 thanks thank
somber crest
drk relic stat allocation?
lilac cipher
gcd you want > crit > det> ten
stiff steppe
Wouldn't you want DH over Ten
dull radish
You can't put dh on tank relic (or healer, for that matter)
torn kindle
Not at all for honest players who don’t buy/sell content clears
The rest basically comes down to being clear about the expectations of the PF listing and not being overly rude about them
stable basin
yes and when inevitably someone joins who does not fit the expectations, then what?
just kick & blacklist without saying anything?
torn kindle
You say something like “This is a party for people that have encountered Enrage, please don’t join if you aren’t familiar with x mechanic.”
Be upfront, but courteous
stable basin
i really want some kind of banlist mod or something then
like just ban someone for 1h from my group or whatever
nova socket
If you kick someone they can't join your party unless you redo it
stable basin
oh rly? thats pretty good
cant even a macro get u banned now?
cuz ur telling ppl how to play or something
stable basin
nope, a macro is for a particular strategy that everyone has to follow
quick verge
they won't ban you for listing out a general list of strats for a fight
stable basin
there are often multiple strategies (most of which are not used in party finder)
torn kindle
Yes, and it’s important that everyone knows what strategy is being used
So there’s no confusion
dull radish
you're thinking too far into the changes, honestly
just don't be a jerk and you'll be fine
stable basin
probably, I think they are good overall
I expect things won't change much in terms of enforcement, but the fact that a lot of commonly accepted/actually not really offensive things are technically against ToS makes it a bad ToS
By the strict letter of the rules, saying "we wiped because the MCH missed their tower" on stream is now punishable
for 99.9% of the game the new rules make a lot of sense
you wont actually fail a duty for crappy dps/crappy tanking/crappy healing (usually)
novel sun
Not... Much really changed in the ToS from the last big change. Like if you're not raging at people or throwing insults regularly I don't assume much would change on the enforcement side
When I get mad at people I just rage in the comfort of my own home and proceed with wiping 
stable basin
idk clearing last floor savages in pf for last 2 tiers have required me to be ruthless
novel sun
if you're laying out strategies for fights or asking of party members can do specific things you're not going to get smacked either. If you're telling them off and insulting them while doing so? Maybe
Really depends on the context
stable basin
I will continue to give people absolutely no indication why I kicked them because that's what SE apparently wants
novel sun
I don't personally know anyone who's been banned for giving instructions even if they were acting like an in-game version of Gordon Ramsay
quick verge
I will continue to give people absolutely no indication why I kicked them becaus...
kousei incident
stable basin
the big problem is that the game offers no feedback or tracking mechanism for people
nova socket
SE doesn't want you to interact w others seemingly
I will just not use chat other than /fc or cwls
stable basin
e.g. light rampant -- if you are clearing/farming that fight you need to only fail it below 1/20 times. LOADS of people did the mechanic maybe once or could only do the easy towers and thought that they had the mechanic down
night harbor
night harbor
e.g. light rampant -- if you are clearing/farming that fight you need to only fa...
ngl this is why i quit progging e8s
in party finder
stable basin
I didnt mean now, I meant when shiva was the final boss
now the equivalent is probably shiva icicles
exotic moth
are endwalker beast tribes on release?
steady pebble
no
quiet palm
question: what's the best way to break into savage content?
extremes have been generally pretty easy to pf, but having some trouble with even easy savage. it's not so much that the fights are so much harder, but since one or two people missing the mechanic generally results in a wipe, it makes it so someone leaves pretty quickly after 3-4 wipes, even when we're making pretty good progress
then you get people that rotate in, and we have to start progression from the beginning
I'm pretty new to the mmo genre, so I wasn't really confident on how to find a group to do these things
quick verge
make/join pfs that are at the mechanic you're trying to prog
joining fresh progs are just an exercise in torture
so you'd join a pf for e9 that says like
"happy, summon prog"
try and make friends with good ppl you see in prog parties
and make parties with them so you reduce the amount of possible bad players
and don't be afraid to kick ppl/leave parties that make no progress in progressing past a mechanic
otherwise, just keep putting in time
quiet palm
gotcha
it seems like a lot of prog parties have fresh people join anyways
i feel bad when kicking people
lilac cipher
you can say more specific stuff
I don't PF since I like scheduled run, but you can say like
5 wipes disband or 1 food disband, something like that
and instead of kicking people, you can vote abandon instead
and also make sure you choose the practice tag instead of duty completion
people deserve a chance, there are people who can only learn by making mistakes
1 food means 30 mins practice run
frank quiver
joining fresh progs are just an exercise in torture
I guess this is obvious, but please start and/or join a fresh prog if you're new to the fight. You're suffering from the opposite problem, but unfortunately, a lot of folks in PF jump into later prog without much experience. 
But ye, specifying a mechanic/phase is good practice, since you can use the description to hold folks accountable.
stuck thistle
what people usually mean when they ask to bring AM in ultimate pf?
stable basin
automarker
spark rune
hello anyone know where to look for people farming the fate that drops the archao horns?
steady edge
Was just wondering about the practice edens savages, Ive never done savage and want to do it just my fc is not doing it so how does it work (Practice wise) >.<
lyric summit
party finder
lyric summit
hello anyone know where to look for people farming the fate that drops the archa...
centurio hunts discord
rich ingot
is there a channel for help with bosses? or is this one fine?
verbal oak
ye this or #questions-and-help covers boss stuff
rich ingot
https://clips.twitch.tv/EntertainingCrepuscularTofuWholeWheat-2-dwaNanltnyhU3q
wtf are we doing wrong? we tried this exact thing we saw like 10 times in a row and people were doing that bowtie thing wrong or got hit by orbs but this time everything worked fine but still everything exploded
finite plank
drg looks too short but at the same time...
aren't the people doing the bowtie meant to stand in the tower?
and aren't the people with orbs meant to just line up with their orb, go straight, and turn right?
rich ingot
thought the same... apparently a strat someone saw... dunno if it was for uptime? but i don't see how it would be really you have to run around in this phase anyways
sinful brook
Looks like xeno uptime positioning is different
rich ingot
they explode on proximity?
rich ingot
wow
lyric summit
to the people you're tethered to
rich ingot
yeah sit on towers then
finite plank
vivid otter
Have a questionn. Ryne and Gaia is the eden quest right ?
verbal oak
ye
vivid otter
Ooohk tyty
versed vapor
anyone have any buff trigs i can borrow
mine are broken
pt buff
so like litany battle voice brotherhood embolden devotion trick
zinc jetty
say for leviathan unreal do i need to watch a video on mechanics or is blind ok
quick verge
say for leviathan unreal do i need to watch a video on mechanics or is blind ok
should read a guide for extreme/unreal and harder content
that's the expectation if a party finder doesn't specifically say "blind prog"
cedar steppe
hey all, the new pandaemonium, they said its a new difficulty added to the raid scene.. is this going to be harder than ultimate? or is it another difficulty of alliance raids? im a little unclear. cheers!
nova socket
nocturne hill
whats a good server to hit up for savages ult and extremes come EW cause crystal shard seems LOW on raiding end
covert ledge
whats a good server to hit up for savages ult and extremes come EW cause crystal...
any server on primal or aether
since shit is cross dc
aether has slightly more raiders i think
but primal is fine too
nocturne hill
so is there a website to see what server is best for raiding
cursive oar
I'm on Primal and there always seems to be raiding going on.
nocturne hill
ya im on crystal total of 22 high end duty in PF and thats TOTAL
sinful brook
its like less than 3 weeks until Endwalker
you can't really expect there to be that many PFs still doing fresh prog
covert flame
You can still do any sort of content on crystal, it’s just not as huge
sinful brook
what is the normal amount for aether or primal
When a raid tier is current I've seen upwards for 40+ pfs in just the high end duties tab alone
native heart
What server would you guys recommend that have alot of practise EXT content?
verbal oak
What server would you guys recommend that have alot of practise EXT content?
!faq worldpick
storm frostBOT
shut sentinel
For Pandaemonium I assume it'll just be a step up from the typical difficulty of 8-man raids rather than its own difficulty setting. They do seem to have been making things harder. Seat of Sacrifice and the Weapons come to mind as examples of that.
stable basin
when will first savage release in ew?
verbal oak
december 22nd @stable basin
stable basin
and when do normal mode and crafted gears come out?
stable basin
ok so first few weeks in ew i should just focus on leveling my doh/dol?
verbal oak
ye pretty much
level what you want ot play and use
considering how long 6.0 msq will be you'll need it
stable basin
need what?
stable basin
still haven't really decided what to play for pfing savage
probably PLD or MCH again but not sure
verbal oak
there's ex's on launch that are pretty good measuring sticks for how a class will be for raids
like how easy titania and innoence ex were
stable basin
ah yeah i forgot abt that
verbal oak
by 6.2 all classes will be balanced anyways so overall you'll be fine
stable basin
its not really about balance
its about which one is going to be the smoothest pf experience
lilac cipher
the one that you can make less mistake with
verbal oak
tanks should be fine tbh
stable basin
pld is the signature class or something
lilac cipher
just the poster boy
verbal oak
i mean DRK was the poster boy of SHB and people say it ruined the class
stable basin
drk was a rly good tank in whole of shb
final iron
Whats gonna happen to the nier coins and that system once EW releases?
steady pebble
most likely gone, and revelations/allegory gear will most likely be the augmented version sold for poetics
final iron
And how are we getting the new high end gear in prep for the raid tier?
Dungeons and?
dull radish
at expansion launch, there's expected to be two weeks before normal mode comes out where you can get tome gear or whatever.
When normal mode comes out, that'll be the highest ilvl gear available, and likely won't have a particularly high ilvl entry for it--it's just nm after all. It'll be weekly capped (one token per floor per week) so you won't be able to get a full set in time for savage. There'll be a new crafted set at the same ilvl in time for savage, though, so you can always get a full set of that, or some pieces to fill in for the other slots.
Savage is expected to come out two weeks after normal mode, so you have a bit of time there. Also, usually you can do the first fight or two of savage with a bit lower ilvl and be pretty fine off, so you don't have to worry about having all crafted immediately for that either, unless you're especially going for world prog. And a new weekly capped tome to farm and get gear from.
Of course, this is all assuming they follow the same sort of pattern as previous expansions. Possible they diverge from it slightly, but at any rate it'll likely be pretty close
frank quiver
Does anyone know when the first Ultimate will be released?
stiff steppe
6.1 iirc
frank quiver
Haven't been around for long enough to know when that's released, sorry. What is that time-wise?
verbal oak
Haven't been around for long enough to know when that's released, sorry. What is...
whenever SE wants to tell us
we can only guess otherwise
frank quiver
Oh, okay. No estimates? I was just wondering if I'd have enough time to clear the tier (starting from Week 1) and prog an old Ult, or if the new Ult would be up ASAP.
verbal oak
you'd have enough time
frank quiver
Okie dokes, tyty. I'll probably stick to my plans, then. 
dull radish
oh yeah you'll have a good amount of time
frank quiver
A friend of mine tells me the standard for Week 1 prog is--
4 weeks for clearing (or less if the team is competent)
8 weeks for BiS gearing
8 weeks for parsing (if desired)
Does that sound about right?
dull radish
ultimates historically have always been on off-patches
I wouldn't really put a time frame on parsing honestly
and clear time can vary quite a bit as well haha. Or getting BiS, especially if you're not in a static
frank quiver
Oh, okay! Was just trying to set expectations. Can't keep the static around forever. 
I'll expect more variance (in time frames), then. Tyty.
vernal breach
so yay nay?
could i... just pop hallowed ground and then cover the other tank during formless judgement...
cuz that seems like a really great idea idk
torn kindle
cover ignores hallowed ground
wheat marsh
Paladin can be a great tank, but I think people are crazy when they say it's an easy tank XD
wheat marsh
a lot of people i've heard said Paladin is ezmode tank XD
probably more for the miti
and heals
quiet palm
party finder is physically painful some times D:
farm runs don't seem to be much better than prog runs
from what i've seen
i just had an umbra run where i needed to tank lb2 to survive stack
then the two tanks finished her off during tiles because everyone died anyways
zinc jetty
is tanking in ultimates harder than dpsing or is it only a marginal difficulty increase?
stable basin
depends on what ultimate
stable basin
uwu tanks are fairly free, you do normal tank stuff and tanks actually do nothing for 1 (2 if you mt at titan) hard mechanics being jails and suppression, but you still have a difference in role than dps so mechanics aren’t 1:1
zinc jetty
so should i stick to dps?
stable basin
up to you, imo tanking in uwu is pretty easy and mostly similar to dps. can’t comment for ucob
stable basin
if you really wanted an “easiest xyz” just to finish an ult, it would probably be melee dps in uwu
lyric summit
if you are going into an ultimate it should be on whatever role/job you're most comfortable on
mainly so that if you know the job inside out you'll do less thinking about "how to heal x" or "how to optimize 2 target damage in that phase" and you're able to focus on mechanics more
proven hollow
how long does a prog clear for shb ex trials take on average?
torn kindle
Depending on your group I managed most of my first clears in 2-3 full lockouts.
So a couple of hours if no one keeps getting stuck on a specific mechanic.
verbal oak
my day 1 of diamond ex took 2 lockouts
sand panther
Is there a raid discord? I want to do some before starting Stormblood expansion
final iron
Where do you get the level 80 job gear? I know you can get the dyeable version from memoria misera but just want the undyeable for now
steady pebble
grenoldt in the tempest
final iron
After doing the role quest for that job right?
steady pebble
yes, need to complete the appropriate role quest and be lvl 80 on the job you want to buy the lv80 af set for
rancid jungle
Anyone know when Unreals are coming back?
stiff hull
hades surprisingly goes well with hades
and by hades i mean this hades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVsh2gp29CI
mighty agate
some absolute madman recruited me for miseria EX
I've never done an EX trial past the HW ones
This is going to be a mess
zinc jetty
Does anyone know how ultimates compare with destiny raids?
as stupid of a question as that may be
shut sentinel
By my understanding there isn't a comparison, they are in entirely different leagues.
rich heath
Anyone know what the requirements will be to unlock the ultimate in 6.1 ?
verbal oak
Anyone know what the requirements will be to unlock the ultimate in 6.1 ?
you'll need to beat p4s
the fourth savage of next tier
also recommended to get BiS beforehand
which SHOULD be more than doable if you're raiding the tier from week 1
long gate
what’s the best tank for progging?
tired brook
Up to you, no?
quick verge
the one you like
stable basin
I have not done savage raiding in so long but I want to get into it with Endwalker. How do I meet groups
stable basin
so I just beat the MSQ. I've done basically nothing other than the MSQ up to now. Currently grinding for cryptlurker gear (dragoon)
is there anything else I should be doing that doesn't take as long?
stiff steppe
I dunno about "should" but most people might say do the old raid serieses and alliance raids
covert ledge
I have not done savage raiding in so long but I want to get into it with Endwalk...
theres recruitment channels here and in various discords, but also pf is an option thats viable
https://discordapp.com/invite/mMVbkZx id recommend that one and the balance recruitment channels specifically (ones in this server are mixed for things like fc/statics etc where as the balance its mostly statics recruiting from what ive seen, atleast in the primal channel)
stable basin
i had 960k 
lyric summit
and now you have gear that's outdated in 2 weeks
verbal oak
nah look at the accs
sinful brook
that's 486 gear
Its 486 because scaevan
drowsy agate
sinful brook
One piece drew average down
drowsy agate
shoulda just farmed Eden normals at this point
drowsy agate
no need for exarchic gear in that case though
stable basin
🤷
the patch MSQ required high avarage item lvl
so i was recommended to get exarchic
and take it at least to 520
drowsy agate
paglthan is the highest ilevel requirement in the MSQ and it only requires like 490 or something
eden normal drops 510 gear like candy
this late in the game, there's no need to waste money on exarchic or upgrade it to 520 unless you want to speedrun savage from the beginning or something
stable basin
well, that's the point
and there're still 20 days before Endwalker so i at least want to play them
rich heath
You mean you didn't reorder the game to get early access
frank quiver
When is early access again?
quick verge
!expansion
storm frostBOT
Tick, Tock, Kupo!
stable basin
gulp
vernal breach
ngl bois, i havent yet figured out where to stand if im the 4th tether on e12s statues
nova socket
you just point it straight to the side
vernal breach
yeah but then i get yeeted off the edge 2 seconds later
nova socket
then ur slow
quick verge
pop da sprint
vernal breach
when do i "look away" during int relativity
for the gaze debuff, do i look away while ive stacked center or do i look away just before time space collapses on tiself
;l
verbal oak
at the last drop yeah
quick verge
if eye is the first debuff to go off, look out before it expires
if it's the last, then you just have to look away before you get stunned for return
stable basin
Hey I have a question about the realm reborn relic weapon
I have done the animus weapon step so far, can I start another weapon say dragon and work on both or must I finish one completely?
proud roost
I have done the animus weapon step so far, can I start another weapon say dragon...
the former
vernal breach
im abit amused by the light tethers in e11s
im being told to move out of its way or else i explode..
and thats well and good and sound advice, dont wanna explode.. move out the way
ima just... but.. why did they bring the goddamn bomb to me then, is this standard practice? theres like space to the east and west for them to blow their load in peace
vernal breach
i know that i should move..
im wondering whether they should bring the bomb to me
:V
it doesnt even hurt me much tbf
lilac cipher
no, the one that targeted should move to the discussed location
and everyone else move away from him
vernal breach
why dont they just move to that spot where nobody is standing so we dont have to move..?
lilac cipher
hmm not sure how NA doing it
vernal breach
i dont know whats normal either, it just makes sense to me that they should go somewhere people arent standing
lilac cipher
but in EU/JP, the macro clearly says the holy target move to north boss relative
everyone move back
vernal breach
i see i see
lilac cipher
I reckon it's to minimise movement since you'll be taking a raidwide damage afterwards
vernal breach
i feel like the movements the same.. i still have to reposition the boss either way
lilac cipher
easier to clamp up together so the healer can just do cure3 or something like that
wait a bit more, someone here might be able to help, I haven't got the chance to tank past E10S yet
from what I remember you don't need to reposition anything for this mech
but I might be wrong
E11S is a bit hell for positioning, I often pop my true north for this fight
finite plank
im abit amused by the light tethers in e11s
im being told to move out of its way...
i dont know what role you're describing accurately, so I'll assume you're the tank
we move the person with holy north because it's whatever and to stop the boss from moving out of position.
fire has people go south because that's where most of the people are already waiting at
vernal breach
yes i understand the issue now ;v
the light tether person was running to the northern most... edge
vernal breach
actually, i mean so was everybody
some people ran the the western most edge
watever the case, was alot of work for me lol
finite plank
then they just suck
lilac cipher
ah I get it, yeah would be a problem if they run to the west/north edge 😹
vernal breach
between you and me, i never actually learned how to efficiently center bosses until i got to oracle of darkness
cough
vernal breach
is the center circle always blue during turn of heavens 2? :u
vernal breach
well, iff the middle is blue
and the boss is red... therefore, the middle is safe
makes sense to me(?)
... why isnt it called red uptime? 🤔
if he pick blue, isnt that downtime?
vernal breach
no i mean, if the prerequisite for uptime is the boss picking red
then.. why isnt it called red uptime?
aint that unusual
stable basin
oh do people call it blue uptime 
kinda dumb name
for something that shouldn't even need a name
lilac cipher
I'm starting to see the raiding meme more apparent 😹
vernal breach
indeed.. its confusing and i dont like it . w.
sinful brook
if he pick blue, isnt that downtime?
Its because the safe spots are where the blue circles are. Therefore the"uptime" is blue
If he picks blue the safe spot red
And no red spot on middle
So it downtime
vernal breach
ive had like 3 people tell me the middle is always blue
sinful brook
Sorry no red spot in middle
Like it'll never be red
So you can't uptime during red
The orientation of the circles is always the same for that mechanic
vernal breach
Man, this is like the astral/umbral shit that goes on in lore
If you ask people who are concerned about the cause (that which being the boss’ red aura), they’ll say its red uptime
But if you ask people who are concerned about the effect (that being everyone running to the blue circles) they’ll say its blue time
Im very much in the former..
cunning mirage
So I just got some Exarchic gear for my Tanks. What Materia should should I add to them?
stiff steppe
Depends on the tank
stiff steppe
So I just got some Exarchic gear for my Tanks. What Materia should should I add ...
What melds you use is dependent on what sks you want first and foremost
boreal warren
i cant figure out triple apocalypse at all
too many white lights to keep track of to identify the third late one from the center
then im not sure where to stand in preparation for her knockback
then i dont know what angle to handle the knockback
i keep gettting clobbered at the end of e12s because of it
even after looking at the videos i just cant keep it straight in transition when doing it live
lyric summit
well you only need to pay attention to the one starting from the middle
boreal warren
yeah and despite that i cant identify fast enough
lyric summit
if it came from the left, you get knocked to "her left" in big air quotes
boreal warren
and then i get clipped by the center blast
and then theres the angle of the knockback
where i get clipped a second time
then dead
every time
lyric summit
😬
dont stand in the middle circle not sure what other tips apply
cause that blows up first
and you can live through 1 hit with current gear probably
boreal warren
if i dont stand in the middle there's a chance that the center star goes outwards on the far end of where i was standing
so i'll have to run in a long circle
in the vids people stand in center too anyway
also i cant even seem to get the transition where if the center star swings right then i have to get thrown left for the wides angle between starbursts
dull radish
you can actually get knocked either way from her and be safe, regardless of which direction that the AoEs are rotating
just, one side will have more room and thus be a little safer to get knocked back towards
boreal warren
i was just in a clear party that two-shot the boss after one-shotting the first section and i still got clowned hard at the end
all i can think is that i need to be on the very edge of the hitbox between its flank and rear
dull radish
generally, be on that line separating the flank/rear (the "ass-corner"), slightly into the hitbox, and you'll get knocked back to either side safely. If you know the safer side, standing on that side can be a better idea, but either will work.
For the initial movement, pre-pop sprint for the mechanic if you aren't already, it'll help you move a bit quicker to follow the light moving out from mid (or absent that, the party)
stable basin
Aim toward the side the middle one went to
Tank should be baiting it so you just get knocked opposite of them
but idk how smart pf tanks are about that
dull radish
yeah that's the safer side and generally the one you should aim to get knocked towards
but if you're unsure in the moment, as long as you're in one of those spots, it should normally be ok
boreal warren
im just gonna... not cast at all for those 3-4 GCDs that mechanic is
so if the middle star ends up on the lefthand side of the two stars in the 'pair', go to the lefhand side
worldly bear
So has anyone else encountered astros that don't use cards? Was doing a Neir raid with a co-healer fellow astro. I asked if they wanted to divination first or if I should so we didn't overlap by accident, even swapped sects when they loaded in as Diur. I only noticed they didn't put up any cards because I was watching to make sure I didn't accidentally overwrite any of their cards with my own, only to find them not actually using any. They healed just fine and even pew-pewed with malefic as normal, just no cards for some reason the entire raid.
lilac cipher
have you ever thought that they maybe just don't want to use card cause there are 2 astros?
btw it's just Nier, just cast stuff and watch tv series or something
steady pebble
they were probably just netflixing tbh
there's absolutely no reason to not use cards, even as double astro
lilac cipher
ah right duplicate card is better than no card 😁
steady pebble
like overwriting is meh, but you have plenty of other options to play on in nier
lilac cipher
Yeah I was just thinking, If I'm the AST, I would just unconsciously throwing card, even if I'm watching something else
worldly bear
Worst case scenario you can just slap the melee cards on the tank. Mine loved it when he was the only melee in our entire team of mages during a different time I ran a neir raid.
Had like a white-mage co-healer, and all the DPS were a mix of red mages and black mages. It was weird.
lilac cipher
imagine, have to cast glare to deal damage 😂 j/k
worldly bear
I've had weird RNG luck too. I think my record was like...14 ranged cards in a row during a dungeon run of that one level 80 mansion with the fae that I forget the name of where we had no ranged DPS.
It was both hilarious and mildly annoying.
We made it all the way to the second boss by the time that weird luck ran out and I started getting melee cards again.
cunning mirage
What melds you use is dependent on what sks you want first and foremost
Well the problem is I don't know what I want. I just assume players go for a specific Meta amount.
drowsy agate
if you don't know what you want, just pick whatever is the first recommended set on the balance
when you start understanding your class's nuances more, you'll have a better idea why each sks tier exists
stable basin
somewhere between 2.37-2.43 is fine
if you get a gcd in that range, no tank will noticeably suffer while you're learning
stable basin
I knew he was alive... all these years I looked in the wrong places..
leaden vapor
what is the strat for light rampant for PF on primal?
full wave
Ayatori Sharingan?
versed vapor
what is the strat for light rampant for PF on primal?
Ilya lmaOOO
cerulean wind
Maybe at first but nowadays Primal uses sharingan
I only see Ilya every once in a blue moon
verbal oak
Maybe at first but nowadays Primal uses sharingan
isn't that what ilya makes strats for anyways
week 1
verbal oak
yeah cause PF is bad lol
cerulean wind
lol
versed vapor
Maybe at first but nowadays Primal uses sharingan
They used it till week 100000
cerulean wind
well. They don't use it now
steep falcon
Ilya lmaOOO
Primal used Ilya for months, then the last month they swapped to Ayatori Sharingan
versed vapor
Primal used Ilya for months, then the last month they swapped to Ayatori Sharing...
o
wao only in the last month
.>
versed vapor
wtf
steep falcon
I saw so many PF practicing Ayatori or Clear/Farm with Ayatori
And I was like
Why you guys swapped this late
At least is not like at the beginning
Forsaken and Ilya in the beginning, and everybody can meme on Ilya but Forsaken is way worse than Ilya
versed vapor
sounds dumb to me sir
steep falcon
nova socket
forsaken was much more consistent week 1 strat than ilya
yes neither of them should've been used later still
still inlet
Ayatori, the true intended strat 
mental python
😫 I'm so sick and tired...
verbal oak
even koji knows it was a lot lmao
mental python
is-is there alot more
mental python
😭 please
I just want the cute little healer's feather
I know it's in one of those raids
mental python
pleeeeease tell me you're joking
mental python
I'm an astrologian :(
verbal oak
can't ya swap over to dnc for a sec?
mental python
I don't have dnc ew that breaks my immersion
verbal oak
then perish
mental python
I don't have much of a choice in the matter :')
verbal oak
as long as you're aware
mental python
We all go through it
verbal oak
i was vibin during that questline anyways
mental python
Who lied & told them that a questline made up of ENTIRELY talking to an NPC and following them around was a good idea?
I'm doing it all just for a feather... I don't even like nier lmfao
mental python
Idk why I find yoko taro's stuff kind of pretentious and I can't explain why
verbal oak
be glad he wasn't allowed to make the raid have more instant-wipes
mental python
I am :'(
the raids are pretty easy thank fucking fully
yoko taro: omg and then you should totally have them walk around half of the map to talk to him 8 times in a row! trust me I make games for a living it's gonna be so epic
inner tinsel
I didn't like talking to Konogg but I thought the Nier parts of the raids were pretty cool.
mental python
I did the longass raid and I didn't get the ONE piece of healer gear I wanted :(
mighty agate
Gotta farm them !
That's how you'll get your swag
Can't expect to get it first try
mental python
Can't expect to get it first try
I did it twice but honestly that raid is agonizing I hate it
mighty agate
Which one of the three ?
plush ingot
Praise the lord for SpellTimers making playing Monk bearable.
proud roost
Which one of the three ?
paradigm's breach
rocky karma
fast pollen
Gotta have strong mental in hardcore raids 😭
stable basin
what are the chances that we get a vampire themed class in this game like a caster or melee ?
like has ff ever had that
quick verge
ff5 necromancer
the char set to necromancer counts as undead
and they have a dark arts ability that drains hp
stable basin
that would be sick here
prisma tapir
Hi I need some help pls
I'm trying to speak to graha tia in quest 5.4
In azsy lla, but I can't get to them
Its for the quest wisdom of the allag
Anyone able to help me?
Because I can't get to the destination somehow
pliant kiln
how do i find a static?
frank quiver
There are recruitment channels here and there’s also a server dedicated to recruitment. You can also try r/FFXIVRecruitment or look for ads on Party Finder (in-game).
https://discordapp.com/invite/mMVbkZx
stiff hull
is bozja really the fastest way to get from L71 to L80?
tame igloo
stiff hull
...man, one of my friends really wasn't kidding when they said that levelling DPS is only fun on paper
stiff hull
i dunno, GNB is already pretty button heavy, and so is AST
or at least the kind of TEA level AST play that my NA FC leader forced taught me to do
stiff hull
do people expect to see relics when doing unsynced old savage raids?
say, alex or omega
lyric summit
no
stiff hull
okay, good. i can probably show up to O4S/O8S/O9S with aug exarchic minimum, but perhaps i should wait until endwalker's gear comes out for a better chance
stable basin
If you unsync omega raids in i520 you'll probably be better geared than most people in the party tbh
lyric summit
plus we don't know how stat squish will interact with old content
night harbor
so no head?
stiff hull
If you unsync omega raids in i520 you'll probably be better geared than most peo...
maybe, but i like to stack the deck in my favor as much as I can
halcyon flower
sorry about that
didn't mean to overrun questions channel
I did have one more question do we know the full details of the SUM rework?
glass pine
more or less yeah, but stuff is still subject to change
covert ledge
we have what was shown in the media tour but^
halcyon flower
it looks really fun actually and I see that it brings decent utility
glass pine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNG1QNQPlNE this video covers what's shown in media tour pretty well
halcyon flower
oh didnt see that one yet ty ill give it a watch
robust lava
I wouldn't say this is endgame but i'm doing deltascape v3 solo and for some odd reason the boss does "the game" with frogs without casting ribbit
is this intended? or am I facing a bug?
robust lava
o3n has an enrage
Oh it could be, what are the requirements for enrage?
torn kindle
it's at like 18 minutes into the fight
or something like that
it's a stupidly long enrage for content that rarely ever has enrages
The only other Enrage I can immediately name off the top of my head is Dun Scaith's first boss
(for content that's not extreme/savage/ultimate)
wheat marsh
hades trial has enrage
halcyon flower
Had a quick question about ff14 endgame, how easy would it be to have a side game while pushing ultimates?
As in how many hours a day realistically would I have to commit to ff14 for all the dailies or weekly content to be up to par with others
stable basin
XIV doesn't demand much of your time
You have weekly savage clears and tome capping, the first of which is uhh variable and the latter takes 5x 15~20-minute expert roulette dungeons per week
frank quiver
It'd depend on the Ultimate and your team's expectations, imo. Our group is pushing to finish TEA before EW, so we met up 4-5 days this week, which was a lot. But in previous weeks, we met for ~9-10 hours per week, and I thought that was manageable. If your team is casual and fine with slow prog (or you have folks who've cleared and lead the group with good direction + callouts), then it should be fine to have a side game. Not like you can push Ultimates outside of scheduled times anyways, unless you prog it using PF.
verbal oak
Had a quick question about ff14 endgame, how easy would it be to have a side gam...
It’s totally possible, some people play in two statics and still have time for other games. Weekly grinds are minimal in FFXIV bc the devs want you in the fights, not doing random shit bc content
stable basin
also prog hours are usually not super long
week 1 savage groups will block out 30-40 hours on the week of, but outside of that the overwhelming majority of statics run 6~12 hours per week, even for ultimate
by week 1 savage groups I mean groups that specifically aim to clear all four/five floors before the first weekly reset, just to be clear
robust lava
it's at like 18 minutes into the fight
Guess I gotta pump up my dps
stable basin
by week 1 savage groups I mean groups that specifically aim to clear all four/fi...
there are almost no groups which do this btw
world top 100 statics cleared in the first week or so, across all DCs. I would say an average static of good players will clear on week 3 ish.
pseudo kayak
Anyone down to just farm bozjan area and fates?
stiff hull
so i'm now once again lost after finishing the four lords substory with seiryuu
stable basin
can anyone help me unsynch sou lof the creator savage ?
Im on free trial so I cant make a party finder
stable basin
thats ok, I just need one page anyways
covert ledge
there are almost no groups which do this btw
uh
have you checked the recruitment discords
theres tons of groups recruting for week 1-2
lmao
but ya those are smaller in number compared to the rest, but they def exist
stiff hull
would i520 be enough to prep for endwalker?
there is effectively a 100% chance i will not be able to finish a full aug cryptlurker kit before EW
covert ledge
yea
torn kindle
using SHB as a baseline, the new level 80 crafted/vendor gear will be i515
and level 81 dungeon gear will be 520
Also for augmenting cryptlurker, you'll likely be able to do it with 100 poetics per item at the calamity salvager when endwalker launches
lyric summit
or they'll just sell it already augmented
torn kindle
I know, I meant for stuff you have that isn't augmented yet.
shut sentinel
I mean augmented Cryptlurker should get you through the EW story well enough and you'll be able to buy it for poetics.
If you've got some already it's not like you won't be able to start at 530.
deft bay
question for kind of a newbie, so were endgame etc, how has the track record been for past expansions on gear replacement? like if you have the best of the best gear at the end of the expansion how quickly usually do you end up replacing the gear?
torn kindle
Previous Expansion BiS gets replaced around 4-5 levels into the new expansion
stable basin
To give an example from Stormblood:
Savage/aug tome gear was i400, augmented crafted and un-augmented tome gear was i390, normal raid and base crafted gear was 380
Holminster drops i390
Dhon Mheg drops i400
Qitana Ravel drops i406
Malikah's drops i412
Mt Gulg drops i418
torn kindle
And then the level 80 job gear, which is the weakest level 80 gear, is i430.
stable basin
If you're 520 you'll probably start to think yeah I really need to replace this stuff at L85~87
torn kindle
How long SHB BiS lasts also depends on if there’s a stat jump during the leveling process, like SB had at 64/65
(Hopefully not, though)
frank quiver
What would be BiS prior to the tier’s release?
verbal oak
the weapons from the ex, the accs from the other ex, and the uncapped tome gear
so 570 left side with 580 weapon+right side
580 left side will drop with 6.01
frank quiver
Gotcha, tyty.
muted sedge
So I just hit my first 80. What gear can I get that will carry me through to Endwalker?
Oh I see this was just discussed lol
verbal oak
So I just hit my first 80. What gear can I get that will carry me through to End...
this gear will last you to 83/84 ish
msq and AF gear will get you to 90
muted sedge
this gear will last you to 83/84 ish
Thanks so much!
vital steppe
just hit 80 on my gunbreaker. this is my first tank. what materia should i stick on em?
supple sail
Crit > Skill Speed to desired GCD threshold > DH/Det
half orbit
hi, i have a question about gear stats
which one of these is better overall? and why?
and how significant is the main attribute difference in term of dps loss/gain?
verbal oak
hi, i have a question about gear stats
which one of these is better overall? and...
!faq statmeme
storm frostBOT
verbal oak
for the most part, it ends up being about substats vs what the class wants
for SPS BLM you'd want the 530 piece
for other casters the 525 might edge out
torn kindle
Higher item level is almost always better besides specific scenarios where the weaker item, generally only by 5/10 ilvl, has the ideal stats while the higher item has the worst stats.
When in doubt, see if your class has a stat calculator on the balance discord.
!faq balance
storm frostBOT
half orbit
hmm, i see. my understanding is that the 525 better because i think have enough spell speed, since the spell speed seems useless to me and i go for the crit and dh while sacrificing the int & vit. am doing it wrong?
torn kindle
If you don’t need more spell speed, then the blades stuff should be just as equal or very slightly better.
dull radish
well if you're BLM I'd go with the piece on the right regardless
since it's not like more sps is useless, it's a direct, solid gain
along with the extra INT
half orbit
alright. also, how big is the dps loss from that 17?
and thank you for answering my question. really appreciate it.
dull radish
if you want to see how your output would compare between using the two pieces, you have to consider the rest of your gear (as well as the substats on the gear, too--just looking at INT solely, especially on just one piece, doesn't really give anywhere near the full picture).
For BLM we have two spreadsheets you can use to compare gear--one that you just plug in your stats with for each set (http://bit.ly/BLMGear), another (which supports a few jobs) that you pick your pieces/melds to compare (http://bit.ly/Gear-Planner).
Overall the difference between using the two pieces will likely be relatively small, but almost certainly would slightly favor the right item.
half orbit
alright, ill check it out rightaway. thank you for your help. much appreciated.
final iron
What does skyward points do for you in the firmament? If I were to gather scrips is it better to do level 70, the easier level 80 or the highest level collectible?
torn kindle
Skyward points are for achievements
50k as any crafter for a minion, 50k as any gatherer for another minion.
500k gets a title per class, and 500k as all crafters/gatherers gets the Pterodactyl mount
languid sable
what kinda 525/530 gear would I want on a Dancer
I'm gonna be trying either e9s or e10s tomorrow and I don't want to be a hindrance
stiff steppe
if you've never done savage just get as high level gear with no skill speed as you can
stiff steppe
DNC doesn't benefit from Sks the way other jobs do
iirc it's because sks messes up its rotation
torn kindle
It misaligns the dances from the GCD
quick verge
a decent chunk of time is also occupied by your dances
whose steps don't scale on sks
sinful brook
and a decent amount of damage also comes from your ogcd fan dances, which also don't scale well with SKS
south onyx
do MCHs care about sks
quick verge
generally not really
base 2.5 allows its rotation to loop perfectly
and every 0.06s from the gcd also allows this
but sks on mch doesn't scale well, so you won't actively try and get it
still inlet
Generally the more a job has sources that aren't affected by Speed, such as direct damage oGCDs and pet direct damage damage, the worse in value speed is. There may be some rotation constraints where specific gcd values are important, but you have to look at all of your damage sources.
The idea of a perfect loop is a nice one, but this game is inconsistent in how gcds roll, so some deviation and drift is actually inevitable
Still you want to aim to build to what aligns best
MCH has things like Heat Blast and Gauss/Rico where Speed doesn't matter. Queen also doesn't adjust its damage with it.
chilly pawn
For those that have cleared both POTD and HOH solo to 200 and 100, which one is easier to go for first?
chilly pawn
Recommend RDM or MCH?
chilly pawn
how come GNB?
verbal oak
does same damage as a dps
with way more sustain
since it gets its whole dps rotation at 70
comapred to the big dps skills are 80 for the other tanks
chilly pawn
icic
verbal oak
its also why you can clear ucob with 8 tanks
chilly pawn
Gonna try working on it 
verbal oak
for POTD RDM/MCH is still the way to go
i main MCH so i prefer that but it's up to you what you think you need
chilly pawn
Gonna try to do HOH first and see how that goes since that's more easily attainable
chilly pawn
torn kindle
When I once tried for a deep POTD run with random people a couple years ago, it took us like 9 or 10 hours to go from 51 to 190
though we did take small breaks every 30 floors
muted sedge
When I once tried for a deep POTD run with random people a couple years ago, it ...
Wow, rare to find that dedicated of a random group
deft bay
alright. also, how big is the dps loss from that 17?
mister snake oil salesman do you happen to work at GOOP? 
stable basin
So I am a RDM and my item level is 476. What should I be focusing on right now? A bit out of the loop and forgot.
supple sail
we're two weeks out from the expansion so don't worry too much about gearing up
I would just farm tomestones and clear all the content you haven't done
i.e. Eden, Weapon trials, Bozja if you want
bit late to do any savage except casual clears and farms, and those would normally want at least i510
you can buy exarchic gear on the marketboard for not too much gil, but debatable whether it's worth it at this time
signal crescent
What's the stat priority for Paladin? I'm getting the augmented law's order for it but don't know what to prioritize.
covert ledge
sks to comfortable skill speed>crit>det=dh
signal crescent
Aight, thanks
stable basin
we're two weeks out from the expansion so don't worry too much about gearing up
I see. thanks
proud roost
you can buy exarchic gear on the marketboard for not too much gil, but debatable...
I'd argue buying exarchics as a fast way to meet min ilvl of post-ShB dungeons
pagth'an needs 495 iirc
frank quiver
Heyo, I heard that there's a server specifically for Ultimates. Does anyone have an invite for it?
pallid gorge
covert ledge
yea thatd be it
frank quiver
Ooh, I see. Thanks a bunch!
turbid yarrow
Gday anyone crafting mentors here know the best melding materia for crafting that crafts master recipe at 100% and not depending on luck lol
Quality i meant
torn kindle
Yeah it’s impossible to make a 100% HQ macro for 4-star crafts that don’t use any HQ materials.
The amount of HQ materials you need depends on how what BiS set you’re using.
thick needle
Was there a parsing chart that showed the dps rankings? I remember seeing it, I just want to know if I'm good enough.