which is far more noticeable than any mitigation you'd get from the shield anyways~
#endgame-lounge
dull radish
vernal breach
i kinda like some of the wand glams 
some great news, i got to P2 in only... 2 hours this time
so people still have energy left to LEARN PHASE 2
👁️ 👄 👁️
i like how gaia's defining feature is her lips lol
stable basin
Found this really cool video on the E9S tile phase
torn kindle
Where’s the meme version where everyone kills each other by stepping on their tile
mint falcon
Sounds tempting, though I probably want to see a e8s LR tile diagram
sinful brook
which strat
mint falcon
Exactly. There are a number of strats which makes the whole thing confusing. JP is using one of the sharingan strats so that might be what they use
At least it helps put the nails into the Illya coffin
sinful brook
i just want to see what the devs thought we should have used to solve it
quick verge
think it was ayatori
open crown
i would love an ffxiv jobs mahjong set
sinful brook
I think they did sell one
quick verge
here is fine
glossy lantern
I got melted by the Ifirit arrival attack
Despite being further than other players even
As SCH
On Eden's verse: Furor
The other healer noticed it too and was asking the raid but nobody knew what caused ot
It has better armor than my co-healer too
Is there something special to that?
sinful brook
Ifrit doing the superhero landing is proximity based. If you're too close you get squashed
And depends on how much hp you had/vulns you had up
Or you ran too far and maybe walled yourself at the same time so it looked coincidental?
glossy lantern
Maybe, it was my first time running it so I'm def open to the idea of personal error
But it was weird to be melted despite being so far
inland prairie
can anyone on aether help me with some a9s runs? im trying to grind for my anima weapon but im not good enough for it and it literally will only take like 30 minutes of grinding
wild ether
just put a pf for it
inland prairie
everytime i do i get yelled at because i don't have the ilvl
inland prairie
yeah but i've been grinding this shit for days and i preferably like to ya know, get it done and over with
wild ether
well u either lv to 80 or pay people for carry
inland prairie
i had a buddy helping me with liek every step, but all of a sudden hes refusing to help 😦
nice pay for a clear'
lmao
how helpful
what teh hell is this WOW?
paper rivet
nova socket
coarse flicker
where be the lfg, partyfinder just aint cutting it, also sometimes the restrictions are too much and i cant join fights that ive cleared cause they want bis people to carry them
finite plank
is the e9s condensed particle beam a circle, or a cone
stable basin
yes
that's the healer stack right
during phasers?
cuz those are circles in anti air and cones in wide angle
finite plank
the tank thingy
i thought i fucked up and was gonna kill the group but no, i didn't, thinking it was a circle
stable basin
those are also cones in wide angle and circles in anti air
in anti air they are LORGE
finite plank
oh, so the size changes depending on AA/WA?
stable basin
the busters yea
wide angle ones are very thin cones
anti air ones are uhh
there's a strat where one or both tanks stand max melee directly in front of the boss
and the melees on the sides have to be careful not to get clipped by them
so they're about the size of the boss target circle
unborn yacht
You can actually just put both teams on one side so the tanks can invuln on top of each-other on the other for extra distance. Or one tank can take that spot as the other eats downtime.
The positioning for the rest of the team is tight enough that I wouldn't do it in PF tho
Can't remember if the distances were enough for both tanks to get uptime that way without invulns (one on boss flank, one in mid, team on the other boss flank)
deep gyro
Question, would I be able to ask about endgame gear in this chat? Just trying to find a place to talk gear because I have no idea what I’m doing and I’m trying upgrade my LvL 80 gear level 510 stuff up to 520-530 and I’m also wonder if it’s worth it at all because endwalker is in two months
sinful brook
You have 2 months, and revelation cap is 900/week
So you'll be able to grab enough for at least a couple jobs
And itll last you to 85 in the msq
deep gyro
Okie that’s good to hear I’m mainly trying to just do Dancer my main class
Thank you 😊
sinful brook
Savage is also unlocked if you wanted to do that
Get a bunch of pieces from farming out the floors
lethal wraith
hey hey people
I just ended up shadowbringer expansion
I'm currently in the situation where i have to grind to raise my ilvl or i can buy crafted gear
So what advice i need is: should i just buy crafted gear and go through questlines to high end content or grind stuff to progress "naturally"?
my gear is 422, eden require 425 and next msq dungeon 430
i saw that 510 crafted gear is relatively cheap
stable basin
just buy crafted tbh
There are other ways to get gear if you want to experience that/don't want to spend a lot on crafted
But don't be shy about using crafted to bump up your ilvl
lethal wraith
ok. thanks for advice
i think i will try to buy just bare minimum to progress
stable basin
one upside is you'll probably get most of the loot from eden since people generally don't roll on it much any more
lethal wraith
ok, will take in mind
still inlet
2 stacks and an R4 per minute. Aetherflow's alas still the most disconnected part of the toolkit
And they chose to retain the least used ogcd that is Energy Siphon
limber mica
hey guys new player here
i heard from an old ffxiv player that DRK is "the best tank there is" was he right and if he was, why is that?
lyric summit
!faq meta
storm frostBOT
lyric summit
every tank is gonna be the best at different things
primal seal
Hey, am I ok to post a quick vid of an e12s wipe? I can figure out where it went wrong
cant*
nova socket
sure
primal seal
I am mt, doing billi billi strat
Im not sure why the lion behind me faced the way it did
nova socket
you're way too close
primal seal
Oh ye i see that, though I still dont see why big lion behind me would face that way
even if im too close to boss
nova socket
the healer fucked up as well
the healer was in the wrong position and baited the lion thru middle
you died to the two cleaves cus you were hugging the boss
torn ether
does the ilvl / main stat outweigh the loss of crit / DH? :v or does it even matter where I am right now? (trying to finish all extremes up to ShB)
verbal oak
does the ilvl / main stat outweigh the loss of crit / DH? :v or does it even mat...
yes
!faq statsmeme
storm frostBOT
!faq statsmeme
verbal oak
!faq statmeme
storm frostBOT
torn ether
lmao, ok xD will keep this in mind!
still inlet
If you want the pragmatic approach, just go with max ilvl until/unless you're dealing with final gear sets
Substat optimisation when against main stat is something that's far more complex than what it aims to solve, when players can go with simpler options and it'll be more than good enough. Any differences won't be holding you back in content
If you're on BLM, then even more so the case to just go with whatever until you can build to a desired gcd set. If you're on RDM/SMN, then max out ilvl while keeping SpS low
coarse oar
Does anyone know if e12s has a practice game like e10s does
wild ether
I dont think there's one
coarse oar
Dang okay
opal aurora
No clue where to ask this so I'll post it here; Since I haven't gotten into doing any Savage content. I want to know how good of a start this is for a RDM's gear
(and yes, I know, I need to get my relic weapon LOL)
quick verge
looks fine
radiant fable
I have a question for delubrum reginae savage you need a full group to go in correct?
lilac pivot
what is the LPDU strat for uwu?
quick verge
what is the LPDU strat for uwu?
"Light PF Does Ultimate"
can find their strats in the #uwu-strats channel
naive shale
I have a question for delubrum reginae savage you need a full group to go in co...
afaik min 24 man (sorry really late respond)
finite plank
for fate callib alpha, is there just 2 safe spots for the laser part?
nova socket
ye
finite plank
that makes things simpler assuming i live
finite plank
what's the cause of death for the dark players?
i thought it was
dark = get away, but not too far
light = do not touch light beacon
im guessing i mistook dark and it should've been
dark = get away, but don't touch light beacon either?
lyric summit
just looks like way too far from the beacon
should've been like, standing on the other side of the waymark
like the whm
they dont interact with the light beacon
finite plank
... this is confusing now
difference in this clip has the light beacon standing more behind the waymark
i can barely see the difference, but im guessing 2nd clip had drk beacon players stand more closer?
lyric summit
they didnt die so, yes
dull radish
yeah realistically dark beacon should be pretty close and dark debuff people should be right in front of them. There's no issue with standing close to each other there. Dark beacon shouldn't have to disengage and run far out of melee range or anything
you can't fail dark debuff by being too close to anyone, you only fail it by being too far away from dark beacon after the forced movement
so if you start right next to each other, you'll be fine
finite plank
and dark users have no interaction with light, right?...
feels like deja vu till the incident strikes again
dull radish
correct
dark debuff only cares about not being too far from dark beacon after the movement.
light debuff only care about not being too close to light beacon after the movement.
dark beacon/light beacon can only screw up other people by being in a bad spot (like light beacon being too close beforehand, or dark beacon being too far away beforehand)
light/dark are two completely separate mechanics with no interaction between each other
a common mistake is for the dark beacon to run far out away from the boss before the movement, which can sometimes kill dark debuff people if they don't adjust closer to beacon before the movement
finite plank
do dark players die if they just stand on the dark beacon?
dull radish
no
lyric summit
no, but if you're literally standing on top of the guy you're gonna run into a random direction like the wall
opposite edges of a waymark is like close enough to live but apart enough to aim yourself
dull radish
yeah, you want to be close to the dark beacon, but making sure you're like right next to them so you run in a safe direction
it's not that nuanced of a thing overall
the main failure point is really just being too far away from the beacon (or notably them moving too far away beforehand)
dense bison
what is the hardest lvl 80 trial?
versed vapor
Whats reverse Z again, assume ifrit is north and nails are
o o
o o
versed vapor
and dark users have no interaction with light, right?...
For that one light beacon was too close
Position light beacon on wall ish
Left of D marker
Dark has no interaction with light
But if beacon dies all color of that beacon dies
In that one it was that one dude's error yes but the run could have been saved had the other beacon moved further
Dark beacon should be on B marker ish
PT should be on boss hitbox
versed vapor
So its
| light boss PT Beacon |
finite plank
there was nothing wrong with light
versed vapor
Oh light resolved?
versed vapor
Lemme rewatch sec
finite plank
mechanic explained earlier
versed vapor
Ive nevwr seen a light that close sec
finite plank
by rika and vis
versed vapor
the main failure point is really just being too far away from the beacon (or not...
The latter of dis
dull radish
yeah, already been explained haha
finite plank
it's more accurate to say everyone with dark disregarded the fact that people die if too far from dark beacon
cause none of us stood on the intended waymark
versed vapor
yeah, already been explained haha
O yee mb i was browsing on mobile made it hard to see the bottom comment
versed vapor
cause none of us stood on the intended waymark
On the boss hitbox is also a safe bet works errytime
Like where the thiCC red circle is
dull radish
again, it's not a super nuanced thing
versed vapor
Yeah
dull radish
the biggest deal is the dark beacon not disengaging too far out
versed vapor
Yep yep mb xD just saw it on mobile
It kinda scrolls you up a bit when i click on a new channel
And i had keeb open so it was cut out
Your reply rika
dull radish
well it wasn't just my reply, but we kinda went on (both vis and I) for a while explaining it
versed vapor
Yeah i missed it bc my keebo was opened
It my bad
And mobile lets me see like 1 thing thingy thing
Sorry 🙏
sinful brook
Whats reverse Z again, assume ifrit is north and nails are
o o
o ...
SE SW NE NW is the order, basically drawing Z from the bottom up.
dull radish
nah it's plenty fine
versed vapor
Mmm is there a strat name for
Killing
SE - whatever - SW
Make it so you dont need a back n forth movement
Just either once or twice clockwise
Ooor is that like
Not a thing in pug
dull radish
I don't remember what's on clees guide
versed vapor
Its SE NW NE SW
versed vapor
with reverse Z or whatever
Ah sorry i just realized what channy said
Ive never done reverse Z then
<
Ig ill just read it manually
If its reverse Z based on starting position
You move CCW instead?
dull radish
yeah, dodging towards where the first dash is from the 4th spot. If that ifrit is blue, you stop where the first dash hit, otherwise you go to the next spot and stop there
versed vapor
Unless ur in a heavensfall party :^)
And you got clowns who join that havent even seen twintania
rain wing
is there eden promise savage raids, if so how do you obtain them
quick verge
yes
complete the eden's promise story and go to amh araeng afterwards and talk to lewrey
rain wing
Im right next to him but it just says to ask about eden
I thought I finished the whole story line but I guess I didnt?
holy nvm we're dumb
quick verge
same
wet heath
zinc jetty
Would it be possible to Party Find a group for TEA? Just how difficult is it? Is a static necessary
covert ledge
pf has a very very very low chance of clearing compared to a static, and it aint gonna be one group you join , itll be several, its not just a 1 day thing
empty swan
It sucks when you're the only one of your static that wants to try an endgame trail/raid though.
white cypress
I want to find a static for lvl 50-60-70 raids but I also want it to be a fun group of weirdos
Not just hardcore sweaty
Good luck @empty swan
covert ledge
people dont really form statics for old raids
unless its like a general "min ilv old content" static
but those are rare
jaunty mist
how common is it for groups to be able to prog through uwu or cob in a weekend? I work long hours weekdays and sometimes saturday as well, so the only time I have to do hard content is the weekend
hard (and don't know where to go) to find groups like this
covert ledge
how common is it for groups to be able to prog through uwu or cob in a weekend? ...
lmao in one weekend? dont count on it
mutliple weekends sure
jaunty mist
in that case I will never be able to clear Ultimates lmao, my job does not allow it
covert ledge
called ultimates for a reason, they arent gonna be quick to do
you could always party finder it on your off time, but again, it aint gonna be quick
jaunty mist
i def have the focus to sit down for 8 hours straight and prog lmao
stable basin
but it's usually better to spread the prog out over the week so you don't spend half your time de-rusting for a fight you haven't done for almost a week
jaunty mist
just gotta find
covert ledge
some statics do like sat and sunday nights
but yea otherwise your other option is party finder
nova socket
it took me 27~ hours to prog uwu with good gamers
Most groups I assume would take 30-80% longer than that
zinc jetty
Would i get super burnt out if i just farm for relic weapon or should i mix it between msq
lament badge
most of the heavensward relics are done most easily just by getting lots of tomestones of poetics
if you have patience and want to level characters, MSQ roulette is also a good way of getting poetics
ARR ones require the most grinding
zinc jetty
yeah ive heard, im just tired of the poetics farm
lament badge
I wouldn't farm poetics, they kinda just flow in naturally
MSQ roulette is also like an easy 700+ daily
zinc jetty
yeah i think im going to do that from now on and get it later on instead of dead focusing on the relic
lament badge
if you've got something to watch in the background
zinc jetty
cause if i keep this up im going to get very burnt out
verbal oak
I did a lot of roulette and coils first time bonus
lament badge
grab a book or open up netflix
zinc jetty
Does savage alexander give first time bonus?
verbal oak
Yep
zinc jetty
does unsync also give tomes?
lament badge
yes
torn kindle
Only the first time bonus
verbal oak
Go on pf with a lvl 80, clear ARR content unsync, ez poetics
verbal oak
Esp if you’re a tank yeah
lament badge
trials just might take a while
verbal oak
Yeah might just wanna put it on the backburner for now
Sb will give you tons if poetics for just doing msq stuff
untold hound
Delubrium speedruns as MCH, whats better as a second lost essence, Font of Power, Slash, or Assassinate? Or other alternatives
zinc jetty
Can you still get aether oil from Koh? I cant find her in revenant's toll
quick verge
Delubrium speedruns as MCH, whats better as a second lost essence, Font of Power...
dervish/font
or font/noble ends if there’s already a dervish
quick verge
Can you still get aether oil from Koh? I cant find her in revenant's toll
ask in #questions-and-help
zinc jetty
ask in <#287679207432257538>
I keep getting ignored
main fractal
is there a list of blue mage "face spells" cant seem to get this weekly carnival challenge done
torn kindle
is there a list of blue mage "face spells" cant seem to get this weekly carnival...
I don’t know an exhaustive list, but these are the ones I easily remember:
Flamethrower
Bad Breath
The Look
Glower
Flying Sardine
Snort
Mustard Bomb
I think Electrogenesis
main fractal
would sticky tounge work?
torn kindle
Yes
glossy musk
Electro genesis is a projectile so I don’t think it’ll work
Ink Jet, Aqua Breath to add to the list off the top of my head. Also whatever Faust uses, it’s a melee face
valid vine
Could someone help clarify a mechanic in e12s?
During advanced relativity, if the dps don't get fire, how do people normally split into two groups and make sure that there aren't 2 aeros or 2 glares on one side?
dull radish
so, you initially plan to split up into two preassigned light parties--1 tank, 1 healer, 2 dps in each group.
If both dps in a group have the same aero/eye debuffs (like, both have double aero for example), the other group will have the same issue with their debuffs. So, you simply designate one dps in each group to swap to the other group if your light party dps have the same ones
glossy musk
Split into normal light parties. Pre-designate two people to swap if you need to
dull radish
handily enough, that's the only swap that has to potentially be done, is just swapping two dps, and it can always be the same people
glossy musk
Here’s a good toolbox for it but be aware that the icons overlap due to stack positions so if you see someone disappear that’s cause he’s standing inside someone else
https://ff14.toolboxgaming.space/?id=886220919208061&preview=1
valid vine
Thank you!!
glossy musk
8 BLU relativities are going to be fun
valid vine
The link isnt working for me, is it my browser problem? o.o
dull radish
working fine on my end. I dunno that it'd specifically be a browser problem, but you could try in a different browser or in incognito/private browsing or whatever
and yeah, BLU relativities will be a little bit more interesting, but probably not too bad. I can imagine there's a decent chance that you end up being in the tank/healer group or the dps group for mechanics like how it works for some other fights
glossy musk
I’m assuming you can do priorities pretty easily for it. That’s what we did with t8 death bombs
dull radish
yeah it won't be too bad any which way
glossy musk
It’s gonna be wild fun having to be like FIGURE IT OUT BITCHES YOU GOT 5s
night harbor
I don’t know an exhaustive list, but these are the ones I easily remember:
Flame...
Plainscracker?
frigid valley
Can we use this channel as an LFG for endgame content or just discussing it?
verbal oak
just discussion
tired brook
just hit i523 with my PLD... good enough for Diamond EX and E#S progs?
tired brook
a little late but, I would like to at least try to get some done
that's good to know
definitely gonna try the Diamond EX first
also, for the ShB Relic... I'm on the step to hit i500 on it
is it easier to do it on Bozja or queue Lv.60 dungeons
I want to do the dungeons on my RDM or BRD but, those queue times are too crazy
verbal oak
lvl 60 dungeons
GNB is a fast way to have a tank at 60
antitower is the fastest for that step
if you got some BLU mage friends they can insta kill the first boss
tired brook
I have a Lv.80 WHM and PLD and SAM but I was trying to level my other 2 DPS
verbal oak
ah yeah
tired brook
but I guess if I wanted to do that step quick
I could just queue in on my PLD or WHM
tired brook
true
quick verge
absolute fastest way is just joining a cluster/memory farm in the southern front
tired brook
I can wait for that 15m queue on my RDM and level up my future NIN
tired brook
absolute fastest way is just joining a cluster/memory farm in the southern front
I found like 2 pretty quick just leveling up my Rank in Bozja
celest delta
How much harder are Savage raids?
Just unlocked Alexander savage raids and the queue is terrible
lament badge
You want to use party finder
Savage raids aren’t even a part of mentor roulette so you really won’t find anything on the duty finder
On avg they are one step above extreme trials, though
bronze rover
How much harder are Savage raids?
depends on the floor
and the tier
in most cases, the the first floor is generally the same difficulty as an ex
the second floor is a bit more difficult
the third floor is more difficult
and the fourth floor is a complete step above
though difficulty is perceived differently by the player
thorn plaza
A4S is less difficult and more poorly designed
One of the mechanics was so bad people opted to use a sac strat instead of do it normally
quick verge
the poor design came from you being able to let nisis drop and sac pentacle
torn kindle
Also being able to ignore big doll if needed
thorn plaza
I dunno if this is the right channel, but what would y'all say is the minimum amount of people you need to clear A10S unsynced
lilac cipher
thorn plaza
I got to .6 then died to an enrage cast because I was outta mp, massive F
primal seal
Hey how much of a difference in dps is there actually between max ilvl full bis and say 525ilvl?
empty bloom
Anyone have some advice on finding a static when you don t really have logs or anything? I’m trying to get into Endwalker content with a steady group, but I haven’t really cleared any savage content since HW
lament badge
you can try doing current savage content and getting some logs in, even if they are echo
e9 in particular is pretty simple to pug
sinful brook
Can start a group too
empty bloom
Do the logs mean anything without a clear though? I feel like if I fight ends prematurely they aren’t exactly accurate LOL
dull radish
well wipe logs do have some value, but more in like analysis of what went wrong on a given pull, but what they're talking about there is getting some clears with pugs in PF--especially with echo, you have a lot more leeway with things and can get some experience/logs up. Just to kinda get started with things at least
cobalt fog
Anyone have some advice on finding a static when you don t really have logs or a...
you could also just wait and try get good logs on the 2 Extremes when EW drops
2 purples above should get you into a good beginner static
echo sequoia
when you look at your SKS on the character screen, is that including food buffs or?
torn kindle
Yes
echo sequoia
thx
brave lynx
Is there a group for learning Eden savage raids?
Or can you get by with just videos?
lyric summit
if you put up a group in pf then there is one
video/guides vs experience in the real fight is two different things
mighty agate
Don't know if that's the chan for it, but I'm struggling with the coils
namely second coil, turn 4
I got oneshot by Iceclaw on the third phase and I have no idea why, not even the wiki really says ?
Like I took 244k dmg from a single hit, that strikes me as a bit weird
yeah, iceclaw just hits me twice and I die instantly
I tried hallowed ground, got me through the first salvo, the second one got me
lilac cipher
ah yeah, you have to kill nael before that
you gotta save your burst window, and release them during heavensfall phase
like if you can't kill him before that phase solo, you have to get another person to help you
mighty agate
After the megaflar, the heavensfall start almost immediately
I don't even think I have req up because I need it to kill the golems before they fuse
yup I can get it to like 35% and I inevitably die
Maybe with WAR...
lilac cipher
I usually just do it with my DPS
mighty agate
My ilvl is like 60 lower with my dps
Just gonna have to wait until I have it levelled I guess
yeah I tried, no way to kill the golems fast enough
lilac cipher
can try with BLU maybe? https://youtu.be/3lSfMQ_EOB0?t=161
mighty agate
My BLU isn't levelled nor skilled up lmao
lament badge
I soloed that as pld, was pretty tight though
But I was also bis and had pots so…. That extra dps may have made the difference
But it’s certainly possible
sinful brook
Its doable on tanks too without pots or bis, though depending on your damage after you might want to hold burst to dump
T9 on a dps will just be you praying that you have the hp to survive the tb before you burst out
novel path
what stats do i put for the i535 drg relic?
quick verge
crit > dh > det if you can't make a bis
novel path
okay so i put everything into crit then dh and leftovers in det @quick verge
its okay?
quick verge
ye
cobalt fog
Is there a group for learning Eden savage raids?
Or can you get by with just vi...
just go join PFs or make a learning party (after watching vids ofc)
stable basin
namely second coil, turn 4
this is me doing it on drk at i457 https://youtu.be/9eO3Ulerlpk
you can do it on a dps too if you build resources and burst when she's at 47%
finite plank
how many ticks of doton does it take for it to be worth more than a katon again?
finite plank
someone mistook #endgame-lounge for #rants
torn kindle
how many ticks of doton does it take for it to be worth more than a katon again?
6 ticks to beat Katon in damage, AKA 15 seconds with the initial placement tick
knotty salmon
Not sure if this is the channel for it, but I’ve reached the end of the MSQ and I’ve seen some streamers doing content where it looks like they’re on some kind of beach or something? I’m trying to find what it’s called, if anyone knows
lilac cipher
screenshot?....
knotty salmon
Sorry it looked like a beach to me
sinful brook
!quest hail to the Queen @knotty salmon
storm frostBOT
!quest hail to the Queen <@227959859612483585>
knotty salmon
Okay I’ll look for that thank you
sinful brook
!quest Hail to the queen
storm frostBOT
!quest Hail to the queen
sinful brook
Requires the ivalice raids done
fresh marlin
I guess gangos could look like a beach
novel path
for the i535 sam relic stats do i do crit>dh>det?
cos i saw somewhere it was sks>crit and so on
verbal oak
assuming you arent BiS yes
jovial sparrow
anyone wanna spam antitower for the bitter memories? i need 4 more and the q times are long
subtle cave
what is the timing point at which double dotting - or single dotting - losing value depending on the % of health the boss has? 10s? 15s?
where the loss in gcd's from dotting is > than the damage done by them
ik it'd be diff for healers/brd/smn
stable basin
If dot base potency plus (tick potency)x(time remaining/3) is less than base potency of skill you'd use instead
subtle cave
thank you for the math
so lets use whm as an example with 10s remaining on the boss, presuming we'd just use glare... cos you're a whm
dia ticks 120 initially, 30 as a dot tick
stable basin
10s means 3 ticks of dia dot (actually potentially 4), 120 + 3x60 = 300
subtle cave
ah fuck that's more complex
stable basin
which is equal to glare
subtle cave
stable basin
if you got 4 ticks it would be better
subtle cave
hmm
stable basin
sam on the other hand takes like 48 seconds for hingan banana to beat midare
subtle cave
i see
stable basin
or maybe 42 I forget
subtle cave
what about if you don't have tri up
and have to hardcast double dots
2 target
or - even disregarding that
lets assume normal smn rotation loop
you have to double dot in tea, idk how long is left idk how long bjcc lasts
hardcast both
what's the gain/loss there
which would be after phoenix
stable basin
bio/miasma are 45p pet tick vs ruin 3's 200 so you need 7 ticks to come out ahead
which is 18~21 seconds
stable basin
You'd look at each one individually
Like if there were 20 seconds left in the phase and neither boss had a dot you'd cast one bio then ruin for the rest of the time
cuz the one is worth and after that it's not
subtle cave
one bio on each?
stable basin
just one period
cuz the first bio you'd cast would tick 7 times (probably)
and the rest would tick 6 or fewer
stable basin
You're just replacing ruin 3s in 2target anyway so hardcast dots vs ruin doesn't change just off that
subtle cave
hmm
stable basin
there's also the question of if bane is worth instead and I'm not equipped to answer that
subtle cave
that's if they're close when you need to redot
but also don't understand enough there
no wait
it'd be 120pot/tick
i don't think you'd look individually cats
why do you think you would?
stable basin
because your decision on what to press for any given gcd is just the value judgement for that specific gcd
subtle cave
of course
stable basin
if you double dotted both targets that's 180p per tick while losing 710 potency from lost ruin 3
subtle cave
so you're saying it could be a gain to use bio and miasma on one, and bio on another, losing miasma?
brain math
stable basin
that's not different from the judgement of spending 2 gcds losing 355 upfront potency for 90p dot ticks
If the bosses are about to die you'd think about each gcd in sequence because the value is based on time remaining and it takes some time to cast them all
but looking at it in the middle of the phase you can just compare one cast to one cast
subtle cave
assuming you have a consistent kill time you can work this easily
but if it sways +-5s
then re double double dotting, dotting one or dotting 2+1 could be be efficient
stable basin
yea
subtle cave
brain
indigo kiln
Anyone here use a program to help schedule raid times for their static? Looking for something to simplify it for my group.
nova socket
indigo kiln
ty
naive shale
anyone know how to like decide whether to prio buff or get full duration of like at DRG lvl 70? really confused on that aprt
*part
stable basin
Not sure if this is a question for the beginner lounge or here, so sorry if its in the wrong group. Im currently making my way through ShB and have my warrior and paladin at 72. Is there a preference at the end game for either tank? (or neither?)
verbal oak
Not sure if this is a question for the beginner lounge or here, so sorry if its ...
!faq meta
storm frostBOT
verbal oak
WAR slightly prefers MT PLD slightly prefers OT
stable basin
Thanks!
finite plank
anyone know how to like decide whether to prio buff or get full duration of like...
wdym prio buff?
naive shale
like
whenever u enter life at 80
its duration will be static 30s
but at lvl 70
it's up to at what duration u have currently for botd
which sometimes can cause u to lose usage of 1 nastrond
my question is should i activate life like lvl 80 so it lines up normally with buff or delay life so u enter it when u get most of it's duration?
quick verge
you just wait until you have 23s+ on botd before you enter life
reactivate botd if it'll help you get to 23s+ sooner
if there's a short phase where you can't get 3x nastrond then just enter whenever
you get 20s minimum
mighty agate
Wait botd duration doesn't freeze upon getting lofd ?
still inlet
brain
Hadn't read this, but further considerations that can impact the decisions in a general sense:
- Buff windows and ticks from snapshots that may linger (whether synergy windows, or things like bard song effects). It's never just about baseline potency, but total expected potencies given any rates and multipliers present
- Bane was touched on, as long as targets are in range to the 8y from the source's center, you would use Bane if it applied the weaker ticks to the 2nd target if the 2nd target has no DoTs (or will have no DoTs, then you must compare potencies vs remaining durations to see if worth), then you have to figure out whether how many hardcasts on top of that are still worth
- consider mapping out the damage trees based on available decisions. That'll give the most accurate solution, but if your pushes are super variable, gl hf 😄
Although this won't matter come Endwalker for SMN (and Bane for probably no one), it's still a useful practice to work these out for jobs that still have DoTs to think about
digital swallow
I have a question, I seem to notice that when I use AM, it marks people who don't have gaols more often than not. How does one ensure it'll mark them reliably?
subtle bone
I have a question, I seem to notice that when I use AM, it marks people who don'...
might have to change your party list to default
quick verge
yes
chilly pumice
can i get some help with E8N
stable shell
How bad is it trying to get a tea clear threw party finder?
I just started playing ffxiv like 2 months ago and just cleared the e4e last night
verbal oak
so imagine e4s
and that whole fight is phase 1
theres 4 phases, no checkpoints
that's TEA @stable shell
stable shell
I just want my shiny gnb sword ;-;
stable shell
I was reading/ watching a whole lotta guides and said “damn looks like tomorrow mes problem”
verbal oak
oh and also theres no echo, and for TEA specifically you'd have to get 470-475 gear for that fight
its a journey but one thats well worth it
verbal oak
nope
verbal oak
for UWU and UCOB its a lot easier since you cap the substats with ilvl 400+ gear
verbal oak
E1-4?
e1-e4s, hero's gauntlet, nut farming
the balance discord has a full BiS for it and plenty of guides, thats what i use for most raids
stable shell
Ah Ima go check it all out then haha
Thank you! Got a lot to go farm for tonight lmao
stable shell
Luckily I’m friends with the biggest FC on Mateus and I know they have a static that I could prob ask
I just wanna know I won’t completely fuck over their runs lol
stiff void
Dang lucky
Can’t find a group for anything
I have 475 gear but people only letting people@with bis do a raid to get the bis gear ;-;
stable basin
if you have close to bis this should work too
like ilvl 520 + materias + food should be good enough
sinful brook
The nice part about 475 gear is its not ilvl synced
This means materia melds can be shoved in
So grabbing a TEA bis is a pretty good idea
UWU and UCOB are a bit different in that were well above the ilvl to sync and cap out both substats
So its not that you can't get a bis
But its not as necessary to make the effort if you're well above the ilvl
!faq ultimatesync
storm frostBOT
soft oracle
or puppet's bunker
mighty agate
Ah yeah that too
soft oracle
490 is also allegory gear
unreal umbra
Out of curiosity how long does it take for a ticket in FF14 to be responded to?
pseudo lake
dumb question because I just unlocked bozja and lost actions, can I use them repeatedly or do they have usage limits?
torn kindle
The action will tell you if it has a limited number of uses
If it doesn’t list a usage amount, it’s infinite.
pseudo lake
excellent! thank you @torn kindle
torn kindle
The stuff in the “Items” section are all single use, also.
AKA the essences and kits
pseudo lake
right, I assumed those were, but thanks for confirming!
stable basin
What flavor of tank partners do you guys like best?
I'm torn between WAR/GNB or PLD/GNB
nocturne reef
I’m new to the game hi
glossy musk
WAR/DRK or WAR/GNB so we can immune all the tank busters preferably
It’s a pain in the ass to have to deal with PLD mitigating things
cobalt fog
depends what for
for progging imo DRK/PLD is nice
stable basin
very true
hidden kettle
as someone who recently finished leveling GBN big true
gunblade on gunblade action
vagrant marsh
So, I just cleared e9s, and now I'm wondering how the loot system works. Do you only get so much per week?
nova socket
!faq savageloot
storm frostBOT
vagrant marsh
So when echo is introduced, is it no longer considered current, or is it just the last set of the expansion?
verbal oak
It’s really just to make it easier since it’s been out for a while
vagrant marsh
It’s really just to make it easier since it’s been out for a while
So the loot rules still apply?
verbal oak
Sometimes yes but usually no
steady pebble
savage is no longer weekly locked at this point
vagrant marsh
Sweet
mighty agate
What ilvl are the weapons from the ShB EX trials ?
torn kindle
What ilvl are the weapons from the ShB EX trials ?
Titania: 455
Hades: 465
Ruby: 485
WoL: 495
Emerald: 515
Diamond: 525
mighty agate
thanks !
zinc jetty
Is omega savage duty finder rough or would i be better off getting a static
zinc jetty
im in crystal there arent really many people running it
i just want to finish sigmascape in order to unloc UWU
zinc jetty
fair enough, Thanks!
night harbor
btw
how do u save markers
i wanna just start running my own clear party
for eden savages
covert ledge
open the marker thing> click a slot>save waymarks
vagrant marsh
Do extreme/unreal trials have enrages?
lyric summit
yes
south onyx
so uh at what point does materia start mattering
stiff steppe
level cap
sinful brook
so uh at what point does materia start mattering
Materia melds are ignored when ilvl synced thats why it only matters at level
south onyx
so like, they matter even at lvlcap extremes?
lyric summit
for level 80 extremes yes
melding all the slots gives you like +20% secondaries? +30%?
south onyx
ic
unborn nimbus
any good places to lfg?
lyric summit
party finder
night harbor
i smiled a lot c:
mighty agate
Is there a point to doing southern front once you unlock zadnor ?
You gain so much more mettle there
sinful brook
The duels, castrum for loathsome memories, etc
steady pebble
yes
people are lazier/not as inclined to cluster farm in zadnor for w/e so CEs are a little more few and far between
ashen cypress
Is it bad I hit a burnout point before I even started end-game raids like SoSE?
stable basin
hey guys, what do you do with your leves when capped?
sinful brook
!leve a cookie for your troubles
storm frostBOT
!leve a cookie for your troubles
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sinful brook
Its free money
stable basin
thank you!
fresh totem
Is it bad I hit a burnout point before I even started end-game raids like SoSE?
If you have blasted through all of the story in one go, that's not at all surprising. Take a break for a few days or a week.
rain field
What are the names for the current strats for e10s? I play on primal.
sinful brook
pretty sure primal runs the same things the other NA servers do, with Wall relative orbs, G1 NW CCW G2 N CW for the orbs on cardinals/intercards, and JP strat (akito strat) for voidgate 2 (which theoretically you shouldn't be seeing with echo and i530 across the board)
@rain field
joonbob has a video for VG2
if oyu like his visual diagrams
rain field
You can still see enrage in pfs when progging but because people die a lot so I like learning all the strats
I almost got to enrage in my first e9s clear which wasn't long ago
Luckily last mechanic was just the same tiles
e10s seems to have a really freaky last mechanic like e2s back then
sinful brook
after vg2 is tb for tanks, then the kb and orbs again
and then its 4 raidwides for soft enrage
rain field
Vg2 is basically the last
sinful brook
then its one final one for wipe
some weird people like to do "melee uptime" vg2
but jp strat should be the more common one
ashen cypress
If you have blasted through all of the story in one go, that's not at all surpri...
I didn't; I worked myself hard during Firmament ;u;b
#12 Middy FSH
stable basin
primal puts skip vg2 in pf description and does kachi if they see it
unborn nimbus
so how hard is memoria misera extreme?
stiff steppe
even if you do I've cleared it with like 6 deaths
nova socket
you can prob have like 20-30 deaths and be fine
stuck thistle
which consumables potions people usually use for end game raid?
steep falcon
@night harbor I dont know about other Data Centers that aren't Primal. But we do this 
Best strat is skipping Voidgate Amplifier tho
sinful brook
Yes all of na does akito/kachi/jp strat
If you don't skip that is
For shadow servant just look for the point of the shadow, that's the front and you just move left or right based on that
night harbor
Ty ty
strong latch
Are you able to run the alliance raids unsynced for memories? or does it have to be synced
peak kelp
Are you able to run the alliance raids unsynced for memories? or does it have to...
gotta be synced
lyric summit
there's a few variations, the original was in coil where a person would get a debuff and when it expired your character would shoot a conal aoe in front of them petrifying anything hit
more recently though they've just been gaze markers on people iirc? like a look-away-from-me-or-im-gonna-paralyze-you mechanic
like e2s had that marker and o4s before that i think
novel path
what stats do i put for the i535 GNB and WHM relic weapons?
torn kindle
what stats do i put for the i535 GNB and WHM relic weapons?
GNB: Max Critical Hit > Max Determination > Skill Speed* > Tenacity
- Add Skill Speed as needed to reach a preferred GCD/SkS tier, otherwise, you can dump the rest into Tenacity.
WHM: Max Critical Hit > Max Determination > Rest Spell Speed
No piety should need to be added, and a sufficient amount should be supplemented by your gear. If you still need more, then you can replace spell speed with piety.
novel path
ooh thanks :D @torn kindle
novel path
okay so after putting everything into crit and det and the remaining into sks my gcd is 2.37 with my current gear
do i respect sks for tenacity? cos 2.37 too fast for me @torn kindle
torn kindle
Yes
novel path
what does tenacity exactly do
torn kindle
Basically a weaker determination that very slightly mitigates damage
torn kindle
Buy 4 aether sealant with poetics and talk to the node in gangos
sinful brook
What strat do people use in e11s
There aren't any strat variations. It's just marker relative for the most part. Also blue uptime for right of the heavens 2 (joonbob video exists for this). And prismatic there's the standard strat, but some people call it fox mist for whatever reason
night harbor
There aren't any strat variations. It's just marker relative for the most part. ...
alright ty
gonna prog later
wheat marsh
kinda glad i dont have to do e11s for any BiS slots XD
wheat marsh
will e12s make me cry? XD
somber crest
can anyone tell me what this number means on raid report?
finite plank
means you did green
somber crest
wat does that mean 😭
finite plank
probably below average
finite plank
probably "log scored 34% in current logs"
dull radish
it's a percentile compared to all other uploads for that job in that fight. The best you've done historically (at time of upload of the log, compared to others uploaded before it) was 34th percentile.
It's not exactly that you've done better than 34% of players, but it's roughly that (more accurately, if you put all of the logs in percentile buckets from 0 at the lowest parse to 100 at the top, you'd be in the 34th one). So yes, on the lower side
wheat marsh
idk l;ately if you're getting clears i think you're doing better than average
somber crest
it's a percentile compared to all other uploads for that job in that fight. The ...
got it thank you, do u also know how all stars points are acquired/calculated
dull radish
all star points are based on percentile as well as how far away you are numerically from the very top run as well. 120 is the maximum all star points you can have for a fight (for some content the max points are a bit different though), the person with 100th percentile on the fight has 120. The person all the way down with the worst parse as their best for the fight has 0
since the rdps you do is actually taken into the equation, even with a bit lower parse you might have slightly more all star points than you'd expect (since 0th percentile is usually incredibly low, like dead for the whole fight)
wheat marsh
its taking 5-6 groups to get a group that clears e9s/e10s lately
somber crest
since the rdps you do is actually taken into the equation, even with a bit lower...
thank you again
lilac cipher
I reckon you shouldn't worry about parse till you finished the whole tier and achieve BiS
get that clear for the whole tier, get your BiS and then you worry about parse and start a parse run, learn a prase strat etc
worrying about parse without having a BiS will slow you down in the long run
dull radish
you can absolutely worry about your parse pre-BiS. Of course you can't expect the world like getting top parses, but taking note of how you can improve along the way is exceedingly beneficial. Not to focus on high numbers, but to focus on doing things better and fixing mistakes.
Also, don't really have to do like parse runs to get good numbers, and there's not really "parse strats"--even if you're doing a slightly less favorable strat you're probably not losing a ton for it, and you can keep that in mind with how much you're doing and where you can improve
sinful brook
a lot of a decent parse comes down to good fundamentals like ABC, not dying, etc. being able to press buttons and do the mechanics can be done even without bis
wheat marsh
a lot of a decent parse comes down to good fundamentals like ABC, not dying, etc...
but who does that?
nova socket
but who does that?
Any decent player?
finite plank
but who does that?
people who don't get carried
there are a few ways to gauge someone
if someone's in full craft gear, and they get green and checking it on xivanalysis with little issues, like having a 97-99% uptime, they're good
if it's someone in crypt gear, and they get a green and checking it, they have issues if there's an uptime problem like somehow getting 80% uptime or they died
finite plank
I reckon you shouldn't worry about parse till you finished the whole tier and ac...
now, time to reword it as
"instead of worrying about parsing, worry about if it's reasonable for it to be green through xivanalysis"
dull radish
I think it's good to have goals in mind, but overall the focus should be on improvement clear to clear, whether you're newer to the fight or not, BiS or not, try to make each pull be better than the last one (or help you figure things out to do better, since sometimes test pulls here or there to change stuff up, even if worse, can give a lot of insight)
wheat marsh
e10s damage down is common if someone messes up a shadow
personally i wouldnt worry about a parse without a static
but i also see pretty bad PF groups
finite plank
in craft gear, and probably broken log cause i uploaded it to JP instead of NA, I got a grey as gnb which i don't normally play
wheat marsh
also shows 2.5k dps is what 60% in parse logs? that's another thing. if it get skewed to the point where its 1k dps between 20 and 80 the % is a bit unreliable
finite plank
these were the mistakes i made in that run while clipping from high ping, to add, my timing's wrong. it'll still show this very important thing to look at when learning
wheat marsh
oh 70% XD
finite plank
this is the other gnb who were much better than me and in better gear that's probably bis
wheat marsh
what's desired GNB SkS?
nova socket
2.43
wheat marsh
oh XD well i guess i have no excuse for not getting 9 GCDs in no mercy XD
nova socket
you can do 9NMs as low as 2.47 or 2.48 I think
wheat marsh
well im more at 2.35 so XD but my focus has been more warrior, nowhere near recommended gear though
uptime though still havent gotten proper numbers without being ranged
finite plank
forgot to mention, it was diaex, so, if the uptime's somehow below 95%~ ish, there's a problem
wheat marsh
seem to get around 90% without deaths in savage
diamond dog downtime is annoying for SMN XD
dull radish
it shouldn't be?
finite plank
i dont play smn, but i also don't see what could be annoying for smn in diaex
wheat marsh
getting max value from bahamut and firebird without too much drift? then again i dont really do anything but 110
dull radish
oh, I misread and saw you say savage, then dog and downtime, and thought you were talking about 10
lilac cipher
What I meant about not worrying about parse is getting purple up or something like that, green and blue are totally fine. It doesn't mean you can free style your class and do whatever you like
finite plank
first dog appearance in diaex, should be fire bird
with burst phase
2nd dog is filler, 3rd bahamut with another burst and 4th in firebird again and last is filler again before the burst
wheat marsh
hmm, always seems to be 2-3 gcds left when it goes untargetable
still inlet
Diamond weapon will feel awkward if you're not strict enough with timings. If it matters enough for more than just clearing to get full value, ideal sequences are laid out here: https://www.akhmorning.com/jobs/smn/encounter-advice/diamond-weapon/
mortal timber
Hiii, hope it's the right section >///< we are 2 new playes that just unlocked ShB high end duties willing to clear them 😄 Is there any group looking for 2 members? (tank and healer) chaos servers
sinful brook
mortal timber
we dont want a fc, just a group to clear content D:
sinful brook
can be used for static recruitment or even linkshell recruitment
if you just want pick up groups, use party finder in game
wheat marsh
yeah its uptime #3 i get skittish about the short length from 2 and that throws off the others, if im not already drifting from recovery of myself or others if i have swift for a raise
quiet palm
hi, question for you experienced players, how much is the jump up on the difficulty level for savage compared to extreme trials, like for example sos ex vs e9s?
and is it something that you can reasonably expect to pf and learn over time, or something you really need a static for
sinful brook
You can theoretically clear almost anything via pf
E9s is a first floor fight and generally considered not too challenging
But that said were like 6 weeks from endwalker so the quality of pf has deteriorated heavily compared to week 1
Itll still be possible to clear but be prepared to spend lots of pfs suffering a bit
quiet palm
gotcha, which is why i asked "reasonably" haha
thanks
so what's the difficulty jump like, for a new player that only cleared ex trials before
sinful brook
Its not too bad tbh
nova socket
First fights are generally pretty close to harder extreme trials
later fights get reasonable harder
quiet palm
cool, thank you!
quiet palm
will do
stable basin
so not entirely sure if this belong here but I'm on Primal and I'd appreciate help clearing E10S
im having the worst luck with PF parties
valid vine
hi just need someone to clarify, during e10s, wall relative (wr) orbs means facing the wall, left is left correct?
sinful brook
yes
valid vine
thought so, thanks
wild ether
anyone got good sch pov for uwu?
wheat marsh
so what's the difficulty jump like, for a new player that only cleared ex trials...
raids 3 and 4 of a tier tend to be the true raids. e9s and e10s, if you find decent groups, will be cleared relatively easily when you get the quirks of savage down.
novel path
so i can't double weave on GNB cos high ping so will this opener work?
lightning shot>bloodfest>keen edge>no mercy>brutal shell>blasting zone>gnashing fang>continuation>sonic break>bow shock>savage claw>continuation>burst strike>rough divide>wicked talon>continuation>solid barrel>rough divide>burst strike.
No mercy ends at burst strike.
maybe i can get in a keen edge under no mercy but that's inconsistent
stiff steppe
so i can't double weave on GNB cos high ping so will this opener work?
lightning...
single weave opener from the balance
novel path
hmm i c. thanks
iron kettle
idk if I should ask it here but whats the best food for Samurai (or general dps)?
sinful brook
the most commonly used food across the board for all jobs is smoked chicken
midnight furnace
there's a few variations, the original was in coil where a person would get a de...
Sorry for the delay in answering back, but thanks!
fierce stump
Retainer ventures in the end game...
Ive just fitted my miner retainer with top tier gear and am hoping for some sweet loot to be delivered
lilac cipher
!faq retainerbp
storm frostBOT
fierce stump
ooooo 🙂
fierce stump
Oh wow, my retainer just brought back a ‘venture coffer’, contained pots of pure white dye! So cool!
mighty agate
lucky bastard
fierce stump
Well today I got her to 80 and dressed her in aesthete’s gear with max gathering materia to get me over 2400 gathering (as above) and a bout 4 quick ventures in she brought that back
I hope it continues!
fierce stump
Ok another venture coffer… a retainer Fantasia this time.
elfin swallow
Does the 180 item part of the relic grind carry for all jobs or do I have to do it each time
tired brook
finally did Dalriada Reginae... ugh lol
on to the next part of my relic!
what's everyones favorite endgame content
rotund hedge
just got back to the game after about a year off, but from what i did when i played in 5.2 or 5.3 savages were a lot of fun. You need to pay attention, coordinate with the team, they reward you pretty well imo, and they dont take that long to complete
at least you dont need 200 hours of progging lol
sinful brook
You don't need 200 hours of prog to clear anything in this game tbh
200 hours is a lot of time
Even for ultimates the average is about 60 to 100 hours
tranquil meteor
Anyone on primal want to do Alexander Savage?
versed vapor
what's everyones favorite endgame content
Ults r fun
frank quiver
Ultimate is the only thing I haven't gotten burnt out on. I meet with my static regularly to prog TEA, but I don't do anything else on XIV.
cobalt fog
Savage usually takes less than 30 hours to prog for normal team (1st boss to end)
Ultimates on average takes around 50-60 hours ? UWU might only take 20ish or less, considering not much going on there
stable basin
should hope not to take 100 hours for tea in the year of our lord two thousand onescore plus one
quick verge
unlucky
lilac cipher
nah, one pull one clear!
zealous girder
I always wanted to do Delubrum Reginae Savage, but with the player requirement it uh...has not really happened yet. I was wondering if there's a better way than just to try and find people with the Party Finder, or if people here would be interested in it / have already completed it even
burnt viper
@zealous girder there’s a discord server that organises delu savage throughout the week on light DC
zealous girder
Thanks bud, I'll check it out then ^^
rugged hill
How hard is memoria extreme compared to diamond deck?
verbal oak
much easier
rugged hill
Also how long its going to take to get the coffer?
I realyl need the coffer for my rdm glamour
verbal oak
still a SHB ex but it has echo and was from last tier
dont really need a coffer, its two totems per kill
think you need 5 per piece?
rugged hill
That sounds a bit much T-T
How easy it is compared to dancing plague?
We can skip dancing plague mech by now i believe
verbal oak
its a bit harder
gotta respect the mechanics a bit
but there's nothing like numbers or swords if thats what you mean
rugged hill
Alright i might try it later today, thanks!
torn kindle
If you have a good enough group, you basically skip the entire last phase
rugged hill
hopefully i can find it in the PF... i dont think my static going to enter that
stable basin
What's the best Pot/infusion for strength?
torn kindle
Grade 4 tincture
stable basin
tyty
night harbor
wild maple
what's the difference between expert dungeons and normal ones?
nova socket
there isn't one
timber mason
Where is a reliable place to get info on BiS gear and stat priority?
lyric summit
!faq balance
storm frostBOT
weak olive
Hey guys I'm wanting to push end game content next expansion and was wondering, do we have an idea yet which healer job will do the most DMG (or be the most useful) in ultimate content? And which melee dps jobs will likely be at the top?
quick verge
no
no
covert ledge
neither really matters, your skill with the class matters more
its easy to tell when someone isnt pulling their weight in savage
weak olive
Yeh I suppose I'd rather improve my skill in the one that will be most valuable to the team :(
quick verge
they're all most likely going to be fine
pick 2 jobs to get good at if you think the state of a job is going to be bad by the time hard content drops
stable basin
one of the things I've noticed wrt damage here as opposed to wow is that there's far less discrepancy between damage output, player skill seems to matter more
ostensibly the most valuable thing to the team is whatever you are good at
tame igloo
one of the things I've noticed wrt damage here as opposed to wow is that there's...
The current difference between highest and lowest DPS (not counting phys ranged) is around 500
(with phys ranged it's 2,856, 10% almost on the dot)
(Max percentiles from fflogs of eden promise all bosses)
which is nothing when jobs pump out 24k lol
stable basin
yea it's weird
I'm used to like
having my own damn parses be different by like 25%
"weird" aka kicks ass
tame igloo
Sorry guys... I only play bard
TEam: Yo pog, buff time and perma uptime, let's go raid
Sorry guys, I only play samurai
Team: Are you good with it tho?
I think so, i do the rotation reliably well and maintain uptime
Team: Cool, raid time 
stable basin
All I Do Is Heal Breh 😩
stable basin
wow gear checks b like "wow you picked the wrong covenant and what is that talent tree lmao" /gkick
dusty dirge
stable basin
if n>1 it can b rotated
still inlet
Even if it's 1, rolling that gcd counts 
still inlet
It's worth mentioning that while that's the ideal, it's not always the case. Expansion releases can be especially rough in job dps balance, as Shadowbringers proved to be one of the worst examples with 5.0. It's only after multiple adjustments that things were much better and closer.
It's entirely possible, as a result, that job DPS balance in 6.0 is also going to be awful in some cases, then by 6.0x and 6.1 they'll correct it enough. Or maybe we'll have a nice release where jobs are all where abouts they should be
torn kindle
yeah some jobs were horrifically jank on 5.0 launch, like Scholar and Samurai
Scholar didn't have Energy Drain for a bit, so the only option to use your aetherflow on was healing, which made some people feel pressured to do needless healing to not waste stacks before aetherflow was ready again
Samurai also lost Hagakure for a bit, which made managing Tsubame's cooldown a nightmare to use without drifting your GCD or wasting Sen by not spending it
sinful brook
Shoha 
torn kindle
Imagine having your new capstone ability tied to sitting in a downtime skill long enough
Astrologian's Play ability was also bugged to where it didn't queue into the GCD, so it was basically like using a macro'd skill
Also 5.0 AST was very MP starved
tbh, AST has had a recurring theme of "bad at expansion start, overbuffed halfway through"
Maybe Endwalker will break the pattern
stable basin
My sam is clearing e12s dummy with 5 seconds left on the timer using food buff (ilvl520) what am I doing wrong?
finite plank
xivanalysis it
stable basin
Seen people doing it with 10+ secs on the timer
quick verge
!faq sss
storm frostBOT
covert ledge
also
sss doesnt have mechanics
so i dont think that accurately even tells you the dps youd do in an actual raid scenario
on top of those other things
languid sable
is endgame referring to stuff in the high end duty browser here? or just general hard content?
mighty agate
It's not really defined afaik. I interpret it as "any max lvl content"
steady pebble
basically savage/extreme/ultimates
neat musk
hi. I have a question regarding the aetheric boom phase in UwU. so there are 4 pairs of orbs connected to each other right? how does this work exactly cause our tanks seems to be taking a lot of damage. if you pop both orbs of 1 pair, does it explode independently causing more damage? or should you always soak only 1 orb per pair?
stable basin
Touching an orb pops the pair and does one instance of damage. Tanks are getting chewed up because it just hits that hard. Make sure to invuln the second+third homing lasers (and skip the fourth), only use short mit like tbn/sheltron in suppression, and tank lb1 at boom cast + every cd they have to survive
even then you probably want an excog or something on the mt and have both healers swift heals to help out both stacks between sets
stable basin
Hope you're not missing positionals, is your gear melded
Yeah, hitting positionals as well as having DH in my gear
stable basin
I focused more on DH so that' prob why and my OCDs were at like 2.03
GCDs*
Yesterday I got my augmented cryptlurker body piece and swapped some sks materia for some more DH and I managed to clear with 10 secs on timer
verbal oak
DH isn’t as good as crit tho
somber crest
i just realized i got the augmented cryptlurkers hose of fending instead of the sollerets of fending, how much of a difference does it make?
nvrmind im a fool
wide token
whats gonna be quickest way to blitz Reaper up from 70 to 80?
stiff steppe
bozja/zadnor, most likely
round goblet
If you had a group it would most likely be fastest to spam highest level dungeon
wheat marsh
i know theres the old precedent, but at this point, why are savage echo boosted and the final trial isn't cumulative echo?
verbal oak
i know theres the old precedent, but at this point, why are savage echo boosted ...
savage trial came out in 5.4, diamond weapon came out in 5.5
we're still on 5.58 so thats prolly the reason
wheat marsh
i mean i get that but its like you get better gear from savage yet extreme is still pure XD
silver sparrow
Hey all, not sure if this is the right place to ask but, I'm looking to get through all the Eden raids to unlock Savage. What's the best way to go about getting that done, assuming I don't have a static or FC or any friends to help (yet)? Duty finder seems to be taking a while and there's nothing in Party finder. Is there a discord channel for that sort of thing? Most of them seem more about long-term recruitment...