#endgame-lounge

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junior quartz
wet stag
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9s enrage

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woo

stable basin
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\o/

boreal edge
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if you cant do 1500 dps on sadu then idk what to tell you

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@wet stag almost there

wet stag
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yeah

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the mnk we had was garbo

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<5k dps

boreal edge
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less than 5on i370

stable basin
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Anyone know rdps for 9-12S?

boreal edge
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whew

wet stag
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4777 on last pull

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i was doing 4.1k lol

boreal edge
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o9s is 35kish

wet stag
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highest dps was 5.4k lmao

stable basin
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wew

wet stag
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was the sam

boreal edge
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34 - 35k

normal sable
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Uptime on it is pretty good

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o9s is not too bad damage wise

wet stag
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i actually really like 9s

normal sable
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It's definitely more fair than train

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Assuming your partner is alive

wet stag
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lol 4 ghosts in a row fuck you

normal sable
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All the mechanics feel fair

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double tether ghosts every time reeee

boreal edge
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its around 2000 more than godka

wet stag
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the thing is

normal sable
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I mean godka dps check was a joke to start with

wet stag
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i liked 5s sometimes bc plunge cheese and killing agony as drk before the buster was feelsgoodman

boreal edge
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except godka was full uptime

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chaos had downtime here and there

wet stag
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its not much though

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less than 7s i feel

boreal edge
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10 secs on orb

normal sable
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It's just the orb

stable basin
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i liked 5s sometimes bc plunge cheese and killing agony as drk before the buster was feelsgoodman My man

wet stag
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and i guess running to chaos during wind

junior quartz
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train isn't that bad GWvertiPeepoSadMan

normal sable
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Train in general was a shitfest that turned into a bigger shitfest because of all the cheesable mechanics

boreal edge
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and 5 secs on both tsunami and wind

normal sable
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When do you lose for tsunami

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I don't lose any uptime

wet stag
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umbra

stable basin
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I feel like I'm the only one who unironically loves train

wet stag
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run to the other side

boreal edge
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i cant enpi

normal sable
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enpi is based

boreal edge
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as war

normal sable
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Suffer the consequences

boreal edge
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whatever jump back sam skill is

normal sable
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Do you lose uptime as tank for orbs during water

stable basin
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I also play DRK and my character is a voice 5 catgirl so maybe my taste is just off πŸ€”

wet stag
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tomahawk

boreal edge
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no

wet stag
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not really no

boreal edge
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its tether to get

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nothing else

wet stag
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except if people are being dumb and are fucking far back

normal sable
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Water phase is comfy

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Have to stack with your buds

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FOREVER STACKED

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Hello there friend mewpaissa

boreal edge
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did almost 4700 in our clear

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as war

copper portal
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Where can I change my tomes of creation for tomes of mendacity?

normal sable
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Yea the DPS upgrade from new gear is pretty nutty

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I saw a full crafted SAM pulling out almost 8k on o9s

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I can't imagine how much more it'll be once he's full ilvl400

stable basin
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wew lad

normal sable
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BIG FATTY CRITTIES

wet stag
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@copper portal more donuts

boreal edge
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im not full crafted

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missing out gloves

copper portal
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w-wha-?

boreal edge
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and pants

copper portal
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More donuts?

boreal edge
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i380 gloves is nm gloves and need o11nm and o12nm

normal sable
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Mor Dhona

boreal edge
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pants are i390

normal sable
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New gear is fucking aids

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All of it has SKS

wet stag
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at least drk gets crit

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finally

normal sable
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RIP 670 SKS

wet stag
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❀

normal sable
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Slowboye SAM dream is dead

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Now I'm just another shitty 45 CPM+ class

stable basin
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tfw slowboye drk is 2.37

normal sable
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Slowboye SAM is like 2.12 iirc

stable basin
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πŸ‘€

wet stag
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im like at 2.38 now

normal sable
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Oh wait it's 2.20

wet stag
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for drk

normal sable
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I was so slow

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And it was beautiful

stable basin
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I was at 2.38 then hot birb weapon brought me down to 2.35

wet stag
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i was running slowboye from sigma

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so i was 2.42 iirc

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or 2.41

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actually fuck i dont rmb

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dont listen to me

boreal edge
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!whois @wet stag

storm frostBOT
boreal edge
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oh i didnt know you at 1st

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til i see your char

wet stag
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Lmao

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How could you forget me

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Rude af

boreal edge
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@wet stag mostly because your new pic

boreal edge
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just looked in logs

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o9s need 34500 rdps

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o10s need 33k

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o11s need 36500

pure yoke
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Adam and Eve requires 38500 dps

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Omega Prime requires 41000 dps

scenic patrol
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Basically Sigmascape geared people can clear but need to be optimized and no deaths

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Tight

pure yoke
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you need crafted gear

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you have less uptime

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than Sigmascape

boreal edge
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looking at our dps in o9s

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i think we have enough dps to beat o11s at least week 1

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ofc mechanics will hold us longer

eternal mirage
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Man going from 2.1k sps down to 1.6k is really sad

boreal edge
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you are sad

zinc vortex
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rude and unnecessary

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that's spearya

boreal edge
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shitposts are always necessary

inner tangle
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imo you should get suzaku weapon before stepping into o9s

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it'll help quite a bit

wet stag
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i have it

boreal edge
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@inner tangle you can still clear it without like we did

inner tangle
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my static is at 2.5% enrage

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we're fully expecting to kill it tomorrow

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but i think we're getting suzaku weaps first before starting o10 lul

pure yoke
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if you got time to spare

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no reason not to go do primals

quick verge
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ddr 3

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GWfroggyPoggers dude

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still dk how the forced march markers work

boreal edge
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@quick verge dont make ball catch you and ball point you where the direction u going when mechanic resolve

scenic patrol
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The ball force marches you in the direction of the arrow when it expires

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So preposition so you won't get to fall off

quick verge
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alright that's pretty easy

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now to find 7 other people that don't huff compressed air

quick verge
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my dps feels so low in o9s

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πŸ€”

full wave
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cause it is

vapid tangle
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MTQ made her Suzuka ex guide and she ran in circles instead of doing the color shift.

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So much dmg wasted!

wet stag
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mtq ran in circles

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what

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lmfao

heavy mist
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U can run in circles and do melee hits

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πŸ€”

vapid tangle
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Have you done suzuka ex?

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In the pattern 12341234 you can stand on 1 and run into 4 the second it explodes to sneak between the two exploding colors

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That way you need minimal movement for maximum dps

blazing pelican
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one of the color patterns you do actually have to do that

vital cypress
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eh

vapid tangle
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Running in circles is just a waste of dps

vital cypress
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I tried that but it seemed really, really iffy

heavy mist
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Probably safer to do so

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Sometimes

blazing pelican
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and if you have shite ping I do not recommend jumping between two colors about to explode

heavy mist
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I do the move between two colors

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But u need to be on point

vapid tangle
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Well I have 35 suzuka clears now and I have done the shifting in every single one instead of running in circles

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And it failed maybe like 3 times now.

heavy mist
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Cause if u tell everyone

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And tell em to donit

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Gonna cause problems

vapid tangle
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Once you figured how to do it's really not hard.

heavy mist
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U expect people to think

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πŸ€” πŸ€” πŸ€” πŸ€”

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πŸ€” πŸ€” πŸ€” πŸ€”

vapid tangle
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Many people in the first week farm parties do it like I do.

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It's been a long while since I last saw someone running circles.

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Granted I see enough people exploding instead.

heavy mist
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Plus need to consider ping

vapid tangle
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It's not too tight. You just need to stand exactly next to the exploding platform and run in while the fire animation. Is still going.

heavy mist
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Ping

vapid tangle
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Pretty much running into the fire cuz animations deal no dmg

heavy mist
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And sometimes people animation lock themselves

vapid tangle
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I play on PS4 with shitty internet and it works for me.

heavy mist
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And forget

quick verge
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you can run in a tiny bit before fire animation happens

heavy mist
quick verge
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huge brain

heavy mist
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Also mtq doesn't always give best strats

vapid tangle
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It's the same excuse from 4.2 where WAR said " I play on PS4 I can't do war strat"

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While I'm a WAR on PS4 doing war strat.

heavy mist
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I have never heard that excuse

vapid tangle
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Heard it a lot in random groups.

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Especially as war strat started being known

heavy mist
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Cause ransoms are generally bad

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Randoms*

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Having them press IR and do fell cleaves

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Is already impressive

vapid tangle
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they said stuff like "PS4 has black screen way longer so you can't do it"

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and now it's the same with " my internet takes too long I can't do color shuffle"

scenic patrol
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I dislike MTQ guides

vital cypress
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PS4... does take longer?

scenic patrol
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When will daddy Xeno do guides for the whole tier?

vital cypress
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not massively so but there's not a whole lot of slack in doing the ghost skip

scenic patrol
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At least there is no ghost skip

quick verge
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xeno is gonna drop the o12s guide then peace out

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tbh

scenic patrol
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Probably

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Still miles ahead of MTQ and Happy in quality

quick verge
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i want xeno to holmgang me irl

scenic patrol
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I love his guides

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Very thorough

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xenoBeardhead @quick verge

quick verge
scenic patrol
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One beard, one chair

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Who will triumph?

wet stag
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Having them press IR and do fell cleaves

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someone i used to be in the same fc with omegalul

quick verge
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poggers dude

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i made it to intermission

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i completed the fight now

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jk alte roite+ is too hard

split falcon
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i remember when xeno did guides for the whole tier AND ex primals GWvertiPeepoSadMan

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his ucob guide was really fucking top quality as well, if you haven't already seen it

pure sierra
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ive never considered whats bis for my class before..

bright plinth
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wheres the highest level accessories i can buy from a vendor for crafters?

hexed iris
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How long will it take me to become level 50 armorer on average?

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im going to try my best to be one fast today

vapid tangle
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I play sks SAM and went full DH as second stat

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should I stick to DH or go for Det now in 4.4?

verbal trout
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is there a place where I can check what my skill speed should be as a NIN?

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or any other soft caps/stat priority for that matter

eternal mirage
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2.8% remaining on o12s dummy D:

leaden lava
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12s is actually not that easy (yet) though

quick verge
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just wait for πŸ…±enoπŸ…±ys πŸ…±ex's guide

eternal mirage
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Nah I know its not

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Still cos I can't clear haha

wet stag
leaden lava
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finally

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done.

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That fight is gonna have no fucking clears, good god

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It's gonna be gated by healing capability I think.

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The damage check will be easy in a few weeks for most half decent statics, but the healing is just a little bit nuts

quick verge
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for what

vital cypress
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huh

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I mean everything's been cleared at least a few times

leaden lava
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for 12S sorry

glossy musk
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12s has been cleared multiple times

pure yoke
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might clear today myself

scenic patrol
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I really like Chaos as a tank

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It's a good fight

pure yoke
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I only done o11s and o12s atm

quick verge
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chaos is p fun

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much better than train hell

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now if i could clear it

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also some hidden cheese for you cheesers

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if you have a drk or a pld

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at the end of cyclone with the two tethers

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you can pop ld/hg when grabbing them

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i guess holmgang works too

scenic patrol
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I do the same with Warrior

quick verge
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broken class

scenic patrol
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Now want to know real big brain?

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During water

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Cover the Warrior

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And HG

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Probably need Shelltron as well

quick verge
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cover when

scenic patrol
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During tethers

quick verge
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monkaS

scenic patrol
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So PLD get hit by both

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Hard to take both tethers

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There

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So might as well use Cover

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Didn't try it yet

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But it should work if there aren't any raid wides there

quick verge
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galaxy brain is having everyone stand in the water so the tank can take both tethers

pure yoke
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I really like O11S

quick verge
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i really like you

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wait shit

scenic patrol
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Can also do that

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But I dunno

quick verge
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it's galaxy brain for a reason

scenic patrol
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Getting both robs from two opposite directions is harder

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Than from two near cardinals

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Air phase tethers are much easier

pure yoke
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made it to O12S enrage

steady pebble
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nice!

quick verge
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what's the enrage

pure yoke
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Ion Spam

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it's basically God Kefka enrage

quick verge
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oh

pure yoke
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@quick verge God Kefka enrage with mini constant aoe damage going out

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between the big aoe damage

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like you are taking like 5k damage per tick a couple times

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between every Ion

quick verge
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so it yeets your shields so you die to ion

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what dick designed that

scenic patrol
quick verge
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we should have a8s enrage

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but it gets a damage up stack each cast

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and there's 5k aoe between each cast

blazing pelican
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It's the same type of enrage as Neo, except this one is magical, not physical

boreal edge
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@scenic patrol HG only block your hit doesnt block your covered partener

scenic patrol
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And?

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Why the ping?

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Also it mitigates

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Passively

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And there's shelltron

boreal edge
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i dont see how that make it easier

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but whatever

scenic patrol
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How it makes it easier?

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Well Paladin requires zero healing for after it for awhile if there is no upcoming raid wide

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Healing can be concentrated on one tank

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Instead of split

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And it makes use of Cover

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Innate 20% mitigation

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So yeah, guess it's completely worthless

lucid karma
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after balls during tsunami there will be no raid wide until phase transit

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so yeah I like your use of cover+HG

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save sentinel for tank buster

scenic patrol
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it also frees up Rampart for fluff

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so far the idea of invuln Orbs is really intriguing to me and will make the fights much more chill

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like I get to the point where I just have CDs I don't need

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before the 2 Orbs

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I can pop both Rampart and Vengeance

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in AIR

lucid karma
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HG invul for orb works best for tsunami because PLD will get to be MT that part

scenic patrol
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yeah

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agreed

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probably the same during AIR

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since WAR will be MT there

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and he can Null a stray AA

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at 1 HP

lucid karma
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I find rampart+sheltron is more than enough for orb alone

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not if you're MTing

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HP gets too low and healers are like GWfroggyMonkaMega

scenic patrol
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well

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good thing HG is active there

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so you only need to survive the OT Orb

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and healers will have 3 years to heal you up

lyric summit
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there's no duty action in o11s, it's replaced with a buff you can pick up like the primal LB buffs in uwu

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yup

lyric shale
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So how does the end game discuss is all about education in builds and meth to get the highest dps or survive

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And try to find an equipment

fringe granite
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True endgame stuff

ancient trail
fringe granite
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Like current

lyric shale
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Ok

ancient trail
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You provably shouldn't be here until 70

lyric shale
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Sorry i am level 52 right now i will be out

unreal flax
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I just want a damned Chain, man. Need a chainnnnnnnnn. Finally rolled over 75 for the first time since this patch dropped. Got beat by a 98.

paper solstice
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Can anyone confirm of Suzaku have a mount drop and if her theme is playing when you are riding it?

dull radish
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yeah suzaku drops a mount

fringe granite
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Suzaku has a mount

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It's a red wolf

paper solstice
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Look like im rushing to suzaku extreme then.

fringe granite
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Have fun storming the temple!

steady pebble
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hopefully they didn't pull a sephirot with it >.>

unreal flax
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What song does Seph's bird play? Doesn't it play Fiend?

fringe granite
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Nope

steady pebble
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no it plays phase 1

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makes nooooooooooooooo sense

unreal flax
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STILL?

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WAIT. Seriously?

fringe granite
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It's the only one that doesn't as far as I am aware

steady pebble
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yup, they've still not changed it

unreal flax
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FUCK YEAH.

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I'm about to farm that bird

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I thought it played Fiend all this time so I never went for it because I hate that song

fringe granite
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You know the fight

unreal flax
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It's my favorite fight

steady pebble
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brit, i love you

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but i love you a little less now

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fiend is amazing

fringe granite
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It is

unreal flax
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Fiend is amazing during the fight because the fight timer lines up with it, but listening to it outside of the fight is not for me lol

paper solstice
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Is suzaku a magic fight?

unreal flax
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There's a lot of magic in it, yeah. Why?

fringe granite
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Not exactly

paper solstice
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im drk

fringe granite
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You can still melee her

unreal flax
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I don't remember if her busters are magic or physical. I'm pretty sure Phantom Flurry is physical.

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But I don't know if the tank actually has to stay in that, so it probably doesn't matter

dull radish
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you get hit by phantom flurry fully, and it's physical yeah

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you move after you start getting hit to dodge the cleave though

unreal flax
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Ah

wet stag
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jeez

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cleared 9s on the 101st pull

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i died from final entropy though

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hahaha

unreal flax
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Congrats, though!

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A clear's a clear

dull radish
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powerful

unreal flax
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One of my O3S clears we actually had the enrage damage dealt as she died lol

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Still counts

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Time to try again for a chain

wet stag
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4.1k at the end

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4.3k if i didnt die

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rippp

junior quartz
pure yoke
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FINALLy

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FUCKING CLEARED

steady pebble
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gratz!

dull radish
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congrats <3

unreal flax
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Good job, Mug. <3

lucid karma
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wew nice, grats

stable basin
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Gratz man

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Just finished the night with 1% enrage on Chaos ;_;

lucid karma
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jeez that's rough

junior quartz
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Well pf people is getting better at tsundere bird

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But most of them are still dying to the 2 first rounds of colors nonetheless GWcfcWhenlifegetsatyou

normal mesa
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i hate that last bit, doing colors fine and then the knockoff gets forgotton

junior quartz
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Last round of colors is tricky

normal mesa
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or surecast doesn't go off and there wasn't position adjustment cuz "weh why move i have surecast" and nyoom off ya go

junior quartz
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Because it's easy to forget there's 2 rounds in a row

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specially when dps'ing qq

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At least so far i have only died to getting aggro

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Because pf tanks

lusty oak
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I like suzaku EX

normal mesa
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same

lusty oak
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Tho i have 2 gripes

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First 7 gcds

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And flurry kicks delay before knockback

eternal mirage
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Don't forget about stupid delayed server tick quadrant booms

wet stag
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if youre getting hit by quadrants ur not moving fast enough

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you can move into the explosion animation safely

eternal mirage
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Oh you can

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I guess that says a lot :)

wet stag
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position yourself on the very border and move into the explosion as soon as it appears

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100% safe

steady pebble
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generally its safe to move back into AoEs once the castbar is done

eternal mirage
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Yeah that's fine, I do that all the time

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It was just the quadrants for the fight

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I always somehow fuck up

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Haven't been able to clear with 0 deaths yet

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Is crafted 380 upgradeable yet or nah?

wet stag
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dont think so

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p sure itll only become upgradeable in 4.5

eternal mirage
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Oke

steady pebble
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if it becomes upgradeable at all

lusty oak
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Doubt

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No overmelding made it trash

scenic patrol
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Eh

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Overmelding is not that powerful

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Only was true for tank gear tbh

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Otherwise it was very solid catch up gear for alt jobs

lusty oak
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Just do eureka for alts

quick verge
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time for another hour of chaos

vital cypress
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Suzaku EX is the hardest fight in the game

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i swear

stable basin
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Can anyone help my OCD?

lyric summit
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not really, just gotta look if yellow or the + one will explode first @vital cypress

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and move into the exploded part

vital cypress
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nah, simon says is easy

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the knockbacks/pulls with no visual tell can heck off

lyric summit
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get an act trigger 🀷

quick verge
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mesmerizing succ

eternal mirage
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Or look at the cast names πŸ˜ƒ

glossy musk
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Was gonna say just read the cast bar lol

vital cypress
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reading is hard

eternal mirage
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Change your hud settings to make it easier to read

midnight cobalt
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Is there any point to main stat VI materia?

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all the gear seems maxed out on them already and they're super cheap on the MB

lusty oak
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Right side for tanks

dull radish
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VIT and STR are the only ones with actual use haha

midnight cobalt
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ooh

dull radish
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The others are usually transmutation fodder with mutamix to try to get better ones

quick verge
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FUCK

bright salmon
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i just found out how NOT to DRG

quick verge
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describe

bright salmon
quick verge
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oh no

full wave
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What am I looking at

quick verge
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the legendary quad weave

bright salmon
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quad weave

full wave
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Oh

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Oh no

quick verge
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they have -100 ms net

lusty oak
bright salmon
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i'm trying to DRG but

lusty oak
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Y u give me cancer @quick verge

quick verge
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because

bright salmon
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i can 5K DRG but....

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i did THAT

quick verge
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yikes pardner

bright salmon
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someone pointed that out to me and i just burst out laughing

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5K with i377 is bad mojo

blazing pelican
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oh no

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@pure yoke scroll up

quick verge
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no don't

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you're gonna have a stroke

bright salmon
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who what?

scenic patrol
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Mug does triple weaves and Jump weaves like it's nothing

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fucking low ping abuser

bright salmon
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wow

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has he seen the legendary quad weave?

quick verge
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mug is sqex's servers

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wish i could triple weave

bright salmon
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i could if i wanted to

regal halo
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hmm

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O9S

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Seriously easy

scenic patrol
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too bad I am shit at prog

regal halo
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Though that's from the perspective of a caster, O9S is still harder than O5S

wet stag
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9s is super super fun

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i should know

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i did it for 13 hours

quick verge
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the arthars clip comes to mind when ranged die

random pecan
#

o5s is just dumb

#

literally the dumbest fight

fringe granite
#

And how much success did you have in those 13 hours?

quick verge
#

o5s is the final boss of pf tbh

random pecan
#

bird lady is the final boss of pf

vital cypress
#

hot take warning

#

O5S is fun

lyric summit
#

o5s is awful for casters tho with tether ghosts

quick verge
#

sad

vital cypress
#

Ruin II

lyric summit
#

o9s is full uptime and surecast everything

random pecan
#

i wish i had ruin 2 on red mage lol

#

the secret is dont rdm in that fight its awful

#

ghosts in your way for melee combing, narrow platform, tethers destroy your uptime

quick verge
#

hot take

#

o5s is harder than o8s

#

change my mind

lyric summit
#

people can't tell apart sleep and confuse

quick verge
#

acquiesce act

regal halo
#

I don't find O5S narrow, but YMMV

random pecan
#

🀷

#

narrow enough for me to displacement like an idiot off the side if my angle backwards is even a little skewed

fringe granite
#

That can be the case

#

Just try to straighten up next time

random pecan
#

yea im better about it

#

that was awhile ago

torpid trench
#

anyone know when fights will show up on fflogs?

lyric summit
#

on your profile? probably a week or two so that there's a big enough database of parses to calculate percentiles

#

they should be working properly when you upload them to analyze

hollow grove
#

Anyone on o11s?

#

I'm looking at fist strats and trying to find the easiest one.

quick verge
#

the hashtag

#

or

#

pound key

#

if you have refined tastes

wet stag
#

tic tac toe key

quick verge
#

strat

wet stag
#

9 64ths of a chessboard

#

matchstick puzzle key

quick verge
#

3rd ddr in suzaku is too big brain for me

#

oh well

#

gonna get my weapon and yeet out of there

pseudo valley
#

when do fflogs start showing fights under your char name

quick verge
#

soonβ„’

pseudo valley
#

lol

#

is that a blizzard "soon"?

quick verge
#

within the next 2 weeks probably

pseudo valley
#

ok

#

thanks

quick verge
#

the suzaku ex dps check is really lax ponder

#

i haven't seen the 4th ddr

#

yet

pseudo valley
#

geo

normal mesa
#

ikr

#

you get an extra loop sometimes, its a push or w/e

lyric summit
#

10% enrage parse

normal mesa
#

ow

glossy musk
#

Oof

normal mesa
#

the deaths

boreal edge
#

4% enrage

#

@lyric summit

stable basin
torn kindle
#

2.8k BLM

#

god have mercy

#

64% active

#

πŸ‘€

lyric summit
#

36% dead

stable basin
#

Top hit fire 4

#

Probably never kept Eno-chan for 30 seconds

torn kindle
#

worst case scenario; they never done SB job quests

verbal trout
#

what do I need to upgrade genesis gear to 400?

boreal edge
#

o10s kill

stable basin
#

Upgrade mat drops from 10S/11S

boreal edge
#

for now

stable basin
#

10 for accessories, 11 for weapon and armor

quick verge
#

at least 6 deaths and still beat enrage

#

this fight is a joke

#

tbh

boreal edge
#

my 1st enrage was 29%

stable basin
#

My first hot birb ex clear had 14 deaths

#

Pretty sure it did the extra 8 rune geomancy though

quick verge
#

why does the pld training dummy feel overtuned

#

jesus

torn kindle
#

for which fight?

#

I remember some fights having slightly overtuned dummies for the ilvl they required

boreal edge
#

i did war dummy to 3%

quick verge
#

all of them

boreal edge
#

but idk the dps num

stable basin
#

PLD dummy seems reasonable

pure yoke
#

DRG dummy is 1.2mil hp

#

this tier

boreal edge
#

need someone see war dummy hp

#

on o12s

stable basin
#

PLD is 3900 for O9S/4400 for O12S

pure yoke
#

gimme a second

boreal edge
#

i could do war dummy

stable basin
#

War is 4300 O9S/4800 O12S

boreal edge
#

if i dont do the usual pull rot

pure yoke
#

866765 HP

#

on Warrior Dummy

boreal edge
#

4815

quick verge
#

4400 o12s

boreal edge
#

4670 i did

quick verge
#

you get like 4100 with pld if your skills decide if they want to crit or not that day

boreal edge
#

funny how i did 4700 in o9s while being 5 ilvls lower

pure yoke
#

my Warrior pulled 5k dps in Omega Prime

#

when we cleared

boreal edge
#

yeah i have smn and whm instead of sch and mnk

#

but whatever

pure yoke
#

we went umm

#

DRG/RDM/NIN/BRD/AST/SCH/WAR/PLD

quick verge
#

how much dowtime is there

boreal edge
#

also idk if o12s had any downtime

#

chaos had some downtime here and there

#

despite not much but still

#

20-25 secs total

#

think omega prime got no downtime

pure yoke
#

Hello World is downtime for melee

#

depending on pattern

#

I also disengaged for safety

boreal edge
#

umbra push at both cyclone and tsunami

#

bowels of agony + downtime til he is targettable again

#

i thinks thats all

minor arch
#

anyone has any idea what the best stats for DRK are this patch? should I keep melding DH or crit?

stable basin
#

crit>det if you omnitank, crit>dh>det if you just do drk/pld

minor arch
#

I tend to play DRK and WAR, so sticking to crit > det can't hurt, no?

torn kindle
#

yeah

#

WAR is the reason you don't meld DH

stable basin
#

Difference between det and dh for drk/pld is very small

torn kindle
#

since Inner Release makes any melded DH worthless.

minor arch
#

thanks!

stable basin
#

There's another set with 25 more simulated dps but it's 2.32 gcd

#

For the linked setup just replace dh with det everywhere except the helm you can only get one det before you cap

minor arch
#

tyvm

#

I'm very much a casual raider so far but it doesn't hurt to try and improve

eternal mirage
#

Oh god

#

What fight is that?

#

Got to 8% enrage in o9s earlier

stable basin
#

wew

boreal edge
#

wew

#

keep it up

stable basin
#

What’s an acceptable DPS for RDM in O9S?

torn kindle
#

well, their SSS dummy requires just shy of 6k DPS to beat.

eternal mirage
#

What's the required DPS for o12s dummy?

#

I'd like to say anywhere between 5 and 6k is acceptable, being above 6k even better? Dunno

torn kindle
#

reddit thread says 6.7k is needed for o12s dummy

rustic lichen
#

So when Suzaku does the second set of phoenix says, are they both clockwise/double panel blow up again?

#

Been having trouble with that lately

eternal mirage
#

It is always clockwise from where the phoenix spawns

quick verge
#

suzaku's phoenix will always go clockwise

eternal mirage
#

It spawns either north or south

stable basin
#

Think he means what order the panels explode

#

they explode according to the rune floating ahead of the phoenix first

lyric summit
stable basin
#

But like, the overall pattern of the explosions

rustic lichen
#

I mean the order for the second set, is it like the first two where it's clockwise by where the Phoenix starts > double whammy

lyric summit
#

soulsurrender i can die in peace

quick verge
#

don't buy the wrong weapon

lyric summit
#

i got the legendary 9th percentile

stable basin
#

you beat o8s? grats

#

:^)

quick verge
#

!whologs @lyric summit

storm frostBOT
#
Error!

This character has not cleared any current content, Kupo!

quick verge
#

wow

lyric summit
#

exposed

eternal mirage
lyric summit
quick verge
#

exposed

stable basin
quick verge
#

a clear is a clear

stable basin
#

IIRC second set has variance, individual sets can be 12344321 or 12341234 but cross instead of clockwise

#

9 parse

#

GREY PARSING

lyric summit
#

i did start intentionally skipping a bahamut to get better AF timings in ultima

stable basin
#

SHAMEFUL

quick verge
#

when's the reclear

stable basin
#

Someone tell me if that's wrong but pretty sure I see it do patterns with no double in the middle that also aren't just run in a circle

eternal mirage
#

Nope that's right

lyric summit
#

5.0 unsynced @quick verge soulsurrender

quick verge
eternal mirage
#

As you said the order is generally fixed but the quadrants aren't. It makes more sense when it's actually being done or with visuals

#

uwu

#

title is Chaos

rustic lichen
#

@stable basin Ahhh okay, thank you

#

the fact that it's going in a cross is what's screwin with me then

stable basin
#

I haven't found a really good way to handle those ones, just kind get good at swapping between panels lol

rustic lichen
#

also for some reason side stepping between the panels works on the first double whammy but not the other one when it's in a cross

quick verge
#

chaos is uwu 2

eternal mirage
#

Speaking of chaos

#

That BLM tho

#

Poggers

quick verge
#

you need better ping or need to move sooner

stable basin
#

You move sooner than you think

#

Server ticks work in your favor as well

eternal mirage
#

Highest I could maintain so far was 5.5k and we hit enrage :(

#

Granted I did die

quick verge
#

you wanna know a hidden cheese i saw

stable basin
#

πŸ‘€

quick verge
#

you know the southwest square tile in o9's arena

eternal mirage
#

Yeah

quick verge
#

you can sit around there

#

and easily dodge lat/long

eternal mirage
#

Que

#

Oh

#

That depends on position of Chaos tho

quick verge
#

if someone does a plunge opener then you can't do it

eternal mirage
#

I usually just try and get real close to the boss

#

And slidecast my way around

stable basin
#

Plunge opener so you can plunge water jump

#

Probably dumb to do but sounds fun

#

I'm gonna try to plunge the wind jump tonight

boreal edge
#

@eternal mirage our smn hit 6700 dps

#

you should do 7k easily as blm

#

the fight has not much movement

#

and you can tricast umbra

quick verge
#

prog mindset

#

chaos enrage sequence is so oof

#

cyclone should be the real enrage

lyric summit
#

it's so easy to adapt on SMN though, compared to all the needed preparedness as BLM

#

there's no downtime so everything's lined up perfectly

#

should have a DWT ready for the orb too

#

ez

#

dunno then, i always do the 75s one i'm pretty sure

quick verge
#

im p sure both patterns have the same gcd count

lyric summit
#

doesn't matter too much, you shouldn't be delaying bahamut just because you have to move

#

never had issues with movement and akh morns 🀷

#

like mistimed wyrmwaves can ghost one sure but i dunno

quick verge
#

why is moving during bahamut bad

lyric summit
#

cause he won't stop to cast

quick verge
#

oof

#

so it's like

#

inverse garuda

pseudo valley
#

Got my suzaku weapon the hard way, seems to be the hardest primal of the expack not named shinryu though

lyric summit
#

nah shinryu has mechanics, this one has aoes to dodge

#

just look if the yellow or the + one explodes first and move to the other one when it's done exploding

pseudo valley
#

yeah i agree its easy, but I am talking about pugs

#

so many people cant dodge it

elder lark
#

I just did a learning group for Suzaku through the raid training discord and we did all right

#

we had one guy who couldn't get phase 1 but we made it to the second Simon Says with the forced march

#

then people had to go

pseudo valley
#

that is prob a lot better than a pf learning

elder lark
#

yeah, having someone on Discord voice explain to me WTF is going on in real time helps me figure out what I'm seeing

#

I learn this kind of stuff really slow but I'm comforted by the fact that there was that one guy who was worse than me >.>

pseudo valley
#

lol

wet stag
#

Just use triggers

elder lark
#

I'm a PS4 loser

wet stag
#

You technically can still use act

#

Since it can parse over network

#

Idk how to do it and I'm not sure if the numbers will be accurate but you can give it a shot I guess

elder lark
#

yeah that's probably too much trouble >.>

steady pebble
#

isn't there an act thing that is downloadable for mobile

#

that a player on kr made or something?

pseudo valley
#

se just needsto get over themselves and give us an actual damage meter

wet stag
#

They won't BC MUH FEELINGS

fossil basalt
#

SSS is sufficient

#

there's really no reason to give assholes even more ammo

elder lark
#

what was funny in this party I was in was that the only person who was bitching about DPS was the guy who couldn't survive phase 1

normal sable
#

SSS is sufficient lmao

pure yoke
#

this is Alexander

wet stag
#

SSS is okay I guess

pure yoke
#

you actually need to do a proper rotation for SSS in min ilvl

wet stag
#

It's a start

glossy musk
#

Honestly I thought Suzaku was extremely easy but I guess all of them from this expac have been

fossil basalt
#

sss is sufficient

glossy musk
#

tfw we will never get titan again

fossil basalt
#

anything past that amount of damage is just showing off

pure yoke
#

if anything

#

4th Tier SSS dummy tends to be slightly overtuned

pseudo valley
#

SSS is a giant pain in the ass to use

glossy musk
#

SSS is always overtuned due to no movement

pseudo valley
#

and doesn't do shit for you in actual raids

pure yoke
#

if you can consistently barely kill it at min ilvl

#

you are doing something right

#

if you are like 10% or 15% behind

#

then you need work

elder lark
#

I'd like something in-game that would let me practice mechanics without inconveniencing 7 other people 😦

fossil basalt
#

and let's be real, the players who actually put in the effort to clear things like SSS are more likely to be better players anyway

elder lark
#

I know they won't do that

#

but it would be nice

pseudo valley
#

plus for healers, dummies mean nothing

#

you need actual fights to see how you are doing

#

dps wise

lyric summit
#

nin o12s sss is like 6.8k I doubt even a good player can get it down in i380 pentamelds

normal sable
#

I could clear SSS with like 375 playing SAM completely wrong

lyric summit
#

I got the smn one to 3% soulsurrender

normal sable
#

I don't think it's a very useful tool for too many things

lyric summit
#

need that akh morn direct crit

normal sable
#

Mostly just checking if you can ride GCD

wet stag
#

I remember clearing the war one with 360 armor but the doma castle weapon

#

Was byakko though so Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

#

Was a nice experiment

#

also BC I just got war up to 70 that weekend and didn't have enough mendacity for the tomestone weapon yet

quick verge
#

SSS is a big xd on some classes

wet stag
#

Yeah

#

Also

#

@fossil basalt have you even been in savage pf

fossil basalt
#

usually i'm the one making the pf

#

i have a static

wet stag
#

Yeah like a lot of people have said

#

Being able to clear sss does not equal being able to do enough damage in raids

fossil basalt
#

sure, but that has more to do with mechanics than anything

wet stag
#

At least you're optimistic about the casual playerbase I guess

fossil basalt
#

oh goodness gracious no

pseudo valley
#

I have had "farm" groups fail Suzaku's enrage

fossil basalt
#

i pugged o11 yesterday for the weekly drop

pseudo valley
#

as healer

fossil basalt
#

it was atrocious

#

but again, that had to do with general dumbassery, and not necessarily damage dealing in particular

pseudo valley
#

PF isn't bad once you find a decent party, but finding that party is hell

wet stag
#

Therefore SSS isn't sufficient in a real raid setting because there are other factors that SSS ignores

pseudo valley
#

yeah

#

like cpm

#

and fight specific things

#

plus fflogs is so useful

fossil basalt
#

ok, but like

#

at the end of the day the only thing that really proves you can do it

#

is doing it

pseudo valley
#

as a raid leader it is necessary to have all of our fights uploaded

#

because im on ps4

fossil basalt
#

having a more detailed parser doesn't really change that

pseudo valley
#

it helps you see what people fucked up

wet stag
#

Having a more detailed parser allows you to identify mistakes you're making

#

And correct them and improve

pseudo valley
#

^

fossil basalt
#

now you're the one sounding overly optimistic

wet stag
#

I'm talking about myself

pure yoke
#

my opinion is that

fossil basalt
#

because in my experience it's more likely to be used as a bludgeon

pure yoke
#

if players actually want to get better at the game

#

they would put in the effort themselves

wet stag
#

^^

pseudo valley
#

fflogs has improved every single static members skill level

pure yoke
#

no amount of helper tools will improve them

#

if they have no drive

fossil basalt
#

what Mug said

wet stag
#

Yeah it's improved my skill level for sure

#

We're in agreement there

pseudo valley
#

yeah

#

fflogs is useless if all you want is to use it for epeen

wet stag
#

I was only disagreeing with your statement that SSS was sufficient

fossil basalt
#

in-gmae at least, i think it is

#

if you personally want something more detailed than that, that's fine

pseudo valley
#

so how do you help healers improve using sss?

fossil basalt
#

but like, from a developer perspective that would be a lot of work for something most people would never bother to use

wet stag
#

@pure yoke the only thing is that sometimes people don't realise that they're doing poorly

#

But they actually would wanna improve if they do

normal sable
#

JP community are pretty excited

#

About the new in game grade system thats coming

wet stag
#

Is that the hall of the expert thing they were talking about

#

Idk this new grade system

pure yoke
#

sounds like an epeen thing

pseudo valley
#

like the mentor system

wet stag
#

Anyone have a link?

lyric summit
#

it's pinned

#

the 3. link in the kupo command no one knows

#

!faq goraid

storm frostBOT
wet stag
#

No I mean

#

The grade system they were talking about

glossy musk
#

I remember they showed off a pic awhile back (this was during gordias)

#

of a system that would grade you individually at the end of the raid

#

ONLY you could see it

#

and it would give you a letter grade

#

it was a novel concept. It wouldn't be exactly what was needed but it'd be nice

wet stag
#

Thats a step in the right direction imo

normal sable
#

Guess nothing came of it

#

😦

lyric summit
#

109 dps powerful

wet stag
#

Heavensward Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

lyric summit
#

I was a shit scholar in creator and I was barely doing 800, I doubt 80 ilvl increase is 800% more dps soulsurrender

wet stag
#

Fair

#

Idk hw numbers

glossy musk
#

Oh wait it showed other people? I misremembered

#

still I like that

#

and I'm assuming that's a hint in the bottom right

torn kindle
#

man imagine being so bad ass you only need a first name

glossy musk
#

fuckin right

torn kindle
#

"MY NAME IS........ Tim"

glossy musk
#

"TIM"

#

it should just be all caps too

#

he speaks no words

#

"TIM has joined the server."

wet stag
#

It's a goal

#

Telling you a beginner brd should be hitting above 1k

glossy musk
#

Ah ok

steady pebble
#

I bet you that Tim was a black mage

quick verge
#

tim is a chad tank

#

awoked

glossy musk
#

yeah tim's a war

#

or back then maybe a mch

#

remember the Firing Squad meta

steady pebble
wet stag
#

You can tell what job all of them were playing

#

Except tim

quick verge
#

is that gordias dps

wet stag
#

Yeah it's faust

quick verge
#

damn

#

they did baby damage back then

wet stag
#

If y'all are curious

#

Ryu San is drg

#

Si jin is brd

#

Sen si is war

glossy musk
#

[TIM]

wet stag
#

Main tank idk probably drk but then again it's JP I don't fucking know

glossy musk
#

he's a stand

wet stag
#

Gaku sha is sch

#

Shiro hime is probably whm

#

Idk what nin ja is tbh

#

It's too obscure

#

Xd

steady pebble
#

sooo what you're saying is that Tim is totally a blm because he's Tim the Enchanter

wet stag
#

Nah Tim is sam

#

Obviously

steady pebble
wet stag
#

@wheat gate pretty much

glossy musk
#

Ah yes the hw sam

quick verge
#

ahead of the times

wet stag
#

Yeah

#

Ofc

stable basin
#

Chaos down \o/

wet stag
#

Grats

fossil basalt
#

Suzaku EX down \o/

pure yoke
#

Cape Westwind down \o/

stable basin
#

waw

wet stag
#

Sastasha down \o/

heavy mist
#

Beat my first enemy πŸ’¦

blazing pelican
#

Made it out of Limsa

#

Seriously, I got lost trying to leave my first time.

wet stag
#

Me but gridania

junior quartz
#

Why can't people just lay down the markers on suzaku reeeeeeeeeee

elder lark
#

markers are for noobs

glossy musk
#

using markers

quick verge
#

markers are for bitches

#

do skills like rampart/shadow wall etc. stack additively

scenic patrol
#

Multiplicatively

#

Take each one of those

#

Use the numbers on the damage taken

#

Not damage reduced

#

In this case 0.7

#

And 0.8

#

Multiply em by each other

#

And then 1-X

#

For the final damage reduction amount

#

So 44% in thus case

#

Of Rampart + Shadow Wall

quick verge
#

gosh that's lame

wet stag
#

Ew math

#

Jk I love math

quick verge
#

"math"

scenic patrol
#

If it stacked additively we wouldn't need invulns

junior quartz
#

You need markers on pfs because of reasons GWakkoWhenlifegetsatyou

#

or rather I can't trust pf people enough.

quick verge
#

okay but it'd be cool tho

#

solo eating yeet busters

fossil basalt
#

the only problem is that busters tend to come often enough that you'd run out of cd's pretty fast like that