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whats the best to spend genesis and alphascape on first? i feel like spending them on hard to get gear aka chest, legs etc first is best since its gona take some time to get them in alphascape savage
Prolly just play MNK/SAM since MNK is my favorite and NIN is my least favorite lol.
Honestly, that's what I did the last two tiers. Cleared Delta on MNK, immediately switched to DRG. Cleared Sigma and considered switching to NIN.
I can land trick attack on suzaku, is that good enough? ;;
Save for 3rd round
where everything becomes a clusterfuck
nin is fun save for the positionals 
My biggest problem with playing NIN is that, when learning NIN back during HW, I focused too much on micromanaging aggro that I didn't make trick timing second nature. Also, fuck TCJ.
So, I can almost make sure no one ever has extra aggro, but also, I end up delaying Trick if anything in the raid catches me off guard, like a player being somewhere they shouldn't.
Because I reflexively use Fuma on CD when my brain goes somewhere else.
it's uh, not that hard to keep on a track of trick attack 
it's really not.
unless you're actively focusing smokes on other dps
then it becomes kind of a hassle at times
And TCJ isn't that bad, but it really fucks up the mudra timing yeah.
I smoke people proactively. But if someone is about to fail a mechanic (myself included), and Trick isn't gonna be up for a few seconds, my shitty brain is gonna push the buttons and then my eyes are gonna look down and the rest of me is like, "OH. IT WAS TIME FOR THAT. WELL MIGHT AS WELL JUST DIE INSIDE"
I'm legit a bad nin, but a big part of it is because I don't really enjoy playing the job.
tbh I play the selfish way and only shade tanks as much because muh dps
Yup.
MNK/DRG is so fun. MNK because punching things is fun. DRG because Nastrond is fun and the flow of the GCDs is really rigid.
I don't really have any real complaints about SAM. I just don't play it that often, but I know how to play it.
I'm like you in that regard, actually.
Why is sometimes suzu birds impossible to kill at beginning?
Bc they're too close together
Or they get revived by the large feather aoe rather than player aoes
Yeah
Anyone knows when http://ffxivcrafting.com/ will be online again?
try https://ffxivteamcraft.com/ its up to date at least
can someone link me to the latest overlay plugin for ACT? can't seem to find any that have been updated this year
Googled act ffxiv plugin and the first result was a plugin committed 5 days ago?
thats not the overlay though?
yeah im not sure. github is confusing for a casual like me. not sure which ones are old or not working anymore
thanks
kagerou โค
Kagerou is bae
yeah I really like the sound effects from 12, and from 11 as well, especially during pantokrator
wow 10s is FUN
doing my first 'learning party' in PF... half the group leaves after 3 pulls
mood
What fight @elder lark
Nice
That shouldn't be your first
lol nobody does actual learning/practice for anything old so...
and I didn't even bother trying to do Tsukuyomi because of how shit I was at the normal mode
this one I can do well on normal so I figured I could probably learn the EX
It's one of the harder EX trials
This expansion
Harder then Tsuku
At the least
everyone seems to have a different opinion of that lol
I've seen people say it's harder than everything but Shinryu and people saying it's almost as easy as Byakko and Lakshmi
I dunno
I've not found it that hard? the only big issue I've had is learning the colors (symbols for me since I can't see all the colors right) and I've managed to do it right several times now lol
Byakko didn't require anything special outside of timely Provoke out of tanks
Really it was just one tank who had to. The 2nd voke u could mess up and spam aggro combo lol
Gonna try to pug punch my way through O9S tonight.
That's unfortunately gonna be my sole focus from 4-11pm lol.
@unreal flax good luck <3 I gotta try to cap on tomes for my alt for the week, then might try to sneak in an O9S clear on there as well, maybe O10S if things go surprisingly well
I really like O9S, man. It's such a nice fight. It has the features of O7S that made it my favorite fight in the tier, but also it's almost 100% uptime lol
L I K E
I really like hyper-scripted fights that don't have the most rotate their targeting ring to select random players. Give me my positionals, pls.
I like O9S
I have only been like 3 or 4 hours in there
I figured out a foolproof trick for me to Lar/Star. Check this out: Watch the first cast (or use ACT Triggers. Whatever), then rotate the camera also so that there's 0 confusion as to which side has become Lar/Star.
Whoa. Even easier.
@scenic patrol install dbm bitch
On what?
but eh
I have cactbot
I like triggers, tbh. I like triggers because they make it so that I don't have to listen to seven people breath into their headsets and not actually do callouts lol

yeah same
Not updated for Savage yet though
also if I'm installing triggers it's for goddamn suzaku
So need to install triggers
timeline is updated up to 11 i believe
I have a bunch of custom triggers, some of which I made up.
because that fight gives me crippling sensory overload
but 11 is untested
I'll download it when at home
tbh idk how to download individual files from githim
Doesn't the master file have the time lines?
I created a few for some debuffs you get like Tailwind/Headwind or uh... Primordial Crust/Accretion. Granted, DPS should only ever get one and tanks/heals get the other, but if someone is dead and I get their shit, I wanna know about it lol
Or do I need ti download them individually?
Unless a tank is dead and you get their debuff instead of tailwind
HOWEVER
I don't actually know if that happens.
I don't think so
Some fights give the dead person's debuff to a living person
I don't know if this fight does that
the debuffs seem to be hard-locked to roles
Oh nice
I can has some files? ๐
Cactbot is basically an act plugin that works like dbm
Installing it feels like installing act for the first time

I should change my callout for Primordial Crust sound to "Beyond Death" since it's practically identical
I did the same thing with Magitek Ray in O7S lol. I had it say to say "Mega Beam" since that's functionally what the mechanic is and I'm a sucker for Alex lol
@eternal mirage https://github.com/quisquous/cactbot/releases
It usually reads a timeline and based on that does call outs
tyty
Wow default cactbot is really in your face huh
It can be, yeah. I have mine tucked off to the side above my Focus Target element.
I'm gonna keep it in my face then adjust if its too annoying haha
Is there any real way to test it?
Go to that farm aetheryte in Middle La Noscea and find one of the dummies.
/bow at it and it'll start a test
Actually, now that I think about it, I'm guessing stormshade could be used to turn effects/color saturation down as well as up 
Summerford Farm is the teleport
Ahh
to end the test early, just hit /farewell
And here I thought summerford farms was something specific to the devs server hahah
Oh god these sound effects are horrible
Yeah
They really are
They're basically just there to get you to look at the screen instead of your hotbars lol
That's fair
I'm trying to find out how to enable TTS so it reads out casts
Think that's a manual thing
I don't use the job thingies
Only raid thingie, oppsie daisy and that's it
I think

oopsy raidsy looks interesting but I think I'll stick with raidboss for now
I put oopsy daisy on my other monitor
How to get "seeing" horde weapon? I like the glow
Is the weapon sellable or can only be crafted?
sellable
but it's gonna be expensive for a while, since it's new and the mats are rare
Market Board
now I'm being forced to learn Suzaku as RDM since someone joined this party after me as BRD and demanded I switch jobs ;-;
Don't negotiate with terrorists
So the healers can turn it into a 14 death clear
Then everyone can go infest [duty complete] parties with their 100% solid fight knowledge
Never let someone tell you to change your job lol.
I would rather that person leave than force me to play something I don't feel like playing.
I don't care if they're trying to direct me to my main. If I'm on WAR right now and a WAR joins, welp, looks like we're both beefy boys
Ok, so I reach my cap for genesis this wk, should I save it for chest, legs slot or spend it?
Save it
Depends on your BiS
Save it for a BiS piece anyhow
Bigger pieces first
Like chest and pants
you know what'd be funny?
if they lied about ultimate being limited to 2
and making 4.5 the 3rd ultimate
and it's Omega.
That's what O11S is
no it's not
cuz there's 3 form of Omega
Omega, Omega M Omega F and Omega Weapon

whats with the dumb snapshotting on o10s hot tail with the balls
i was miles out and still got hit
ive never seen snapshotting this terrible b4 
snapshotting for that actually feels pretty good, it's just easy to underestimate the widths of the explosions/tail
stormshade?
As long as I'm in here, for O9S's intermission, you just have the tanks/healers position a bit outside of their DPS partners, get knocked back, then move in a bit to tag the one DPS with dynamic fluid?
that's one strat yeah
most common too
healers/tanks can get like 1/2 gcds before turning around
yes
that would explain a lot
they need to have their backs facing the dps
it's same as the wind debuff from elsewhere
I'm guessing you could get a bit more uptime by having them get knocked across instead?
yes
yeah
though ๐คท
most strictly you'd ideally push the tanks through and the healers away haha
I have to do some drawings for my group
we just were lazy and didn't bother cleansing wind
since the dps check was so lax and the damage down not super strong
one of our members has some language processing issues so MS Paint helps a lot
so avoided clipping folks with fire and then all cleansed on water
or photoshop if I'm feeling fancy
either way
they're great but sometimes text/voice instructions don't click
make a super shit ms paint illustration and then post it on r/ffxiv for easy internet points
Anyone saw this?
There may be some irregularities every once and while but 5 seconds seems to be a pretty static number coming in at a 30 sample size of Collective and Passag...
no
nor do i care
but that explains why this healer was spamming collective unconscious the entire Burn dungeon on patch day
MUH DPS
yeah wings is super broken
i didn't realize the buff would make it this broken
i thought it'd last for like 1 server tick
if all of your statics are cursed
then you might be the one cursing them
therefore
you have to uncurse yourself
this current one
dies to mechanics
and refuses to meld vit
previous one was my fault that i left
the one before that disbanded mid-uwu

i saw someone selling quad/pentamelded tank accs on the mb with no str melded
F
It's like melding INT on Warrior
It's a fruitless endeavor
We won't get smarter

the fruit is watching the person who inspects your gear have a spontaneous stroke
+0
What do you need vit melds for
If you're anywhere above 370 vit melds aren't too useful for current savage imo
Raid wides fucking hurts
Seen SAM breaking or approaching 50k
nice tank stats
I have 8 380 pieces
If I had like 2 more 380, I'd be at like 51kish
does all the monk stuff have SkS jesus
why is BiS with a crafted earring + bracelet
Dunno
wait, tank bis doesn't require crafted anymore?
nop
Where did you find that shit?
yeah, i'll trade monk happiness for that

Balance simmed out BiS already
I am very much wearing 4 crafted accs that are BiS for me
Warrior is either 3 or 4
Crafted accessories
and pld is like 2 or 3 crafted accs
neck and 2 ring
DRK is also 3
got the one for WAR?
4.4 Best in Slot edition - Updated 9/19/2018
These sets are simulated with the "HW Meta" composition. Due to the lack of Crit and the surplus of Skillspeed, building a Slowboye BIS is impossible. Get ready for an update when the RNG Relictm comes out.
Party comp plays heavily into WAR BIS this tier, and the highest DPS is achieved through Comfy Triple Crafted in a proper WAR Padding Grouptm (NIN, MNK, RDM, BRD, AST, SCH), making the AvgDPS reach 6112.xx.
2.38 - Comfy Triple Crafted - One Tnc meld for a tier upgrade
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/17BCT
2.37 - Greed For Speed
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/176LI
2.38 - Poorboye
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/175A3
2.42 - What Is Coffer?
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/17C9I
2.38 - Can't Clear - +19 dps compared to the set above.
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/17D0G
BONUS - Week 1 Crafted, to be removed in Week 2
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/176UO
I am using the 2.37 set personally
Which is Quadra crafted
poorboye
i'm assuming this means no crafted?
correct
Yes
MNK is a dead class
don't tell anyone but i'm secretly a robot
New gear literally gimped em lmao
my static has a sam
Same
But we are trying to convert him to Ninja
everyone loves you
Will ERP for refresh
ninja is overrated

probably to hit a tier
how many tenacity melds though
i think exactly one
probably a single one
but that's more than the zero for the entire expansion thus far 
what a god
We've hit 2-3% enrage 3 times ;;
tell everyone to stop dying
how the fuck did that WAR hit a 25k Upheaval
Aha those 1 deaths are from the enrage death
He's pretty damn good 
also full i380
@fossil basalt he did it under defiance
Defiance + Unchained + Thrill of Battle?
sorta figured it was something like that. still surprising tho
700 dps is what i did in susanoo ex at i300
If you're getting hit by hot tail then you're inside the bosses' hitbox for some reason haha
respect content
okay
time to fire up PowerPoint Google Slides OpenOffice Impress Apple Pages??? I guess
unless someone's made an O9S visual guide already in which case i'll take a nap instead
There's two text guides
One by Balance
And one by don't remember the name
Kennel fox or something
I wonder why Shinryu's theme has a motif from the Azys Lla theme.
It's like... Azys Lla -> Shinryu P1 -> O11.
The connection between Shinryu and Omega is obvious, but what connection does Shinryu have to Azys Lla?
Congrats! And congrats!
Ty!
I'mma be in that hoe all night tonight myself. I have the utmost confidence in me that I can clear it tonight. PF may have other plans which will be wildly frustrating, but luck of the draw is the name of this game.
You know how I give it up lol.
Gon be on SAM, too. Best case scenario, tbh lmao
what are ninja stat weights? Crit > DH > Det > SS?
You can uhhh take SkS off that list entirely. This tier's BiS already gives you more SkS than you need without any melds.
But otherwise yeah
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/175M2 <- this was a quick BiS idea I threw together as soon as Ariyala was updated. Whether or not every single piece and meld is how things are actually going to shake out once the simulations are run is yet to be seen (by me), but I don't think I'm super far off.
a lot of stuff for nin seems to give Crit/Det, do I just meld DH on to everything?
I think I actually went Crit > Det > DH, now that I'm looking at it again
yeah the gear just sorta naturally goes that way
I assume in a perfect world, Crit/DH on everything is great for NIN
Lmao yeah, it looks like almost every meld in that list is DH and anything that isn't DH is Crit.
Skill speed out the ass
I also chose a couple of pieces that might be interchangeable, so there's that as well.
Unless you also wanna play monk
yeah there's a couple where tome = omega
Then as little sks as possible
SAM onry
I don't think it has anything
It doesn't have any burst phase that I know of
Or anything to lock it into a specific GCD
before this tier, 1633 was where the normal 3-Sen opener falls apart, but people have found a higher speed 3-Sen opener, so at this point, I don't think there's a hard limit to how fast you can go besides not clipping the piss out of yourself.
^Basically
so SkS > Crit > DH?
Pretty much, yeah.
Depends on crit values
should melds aim to max crit if not already maxed?
Yeah, I think the Balance is still running sims on stuff, so everything that I'M saying is based on my assumptions.
it's not completely rocket science, and I don't think anyone is going to get turned away in any 380+ ilvl average to a normal group eh
but in the interest of not wasting any weeks' loot or tomes for the next 4 months...
yeah, for nin I'm pretty sure chest is a good bet
and usually a ring
so that's a good 3 weeks to bank on
NIN tome body is Crit/DH ๐
Omega is Crit/Det
I'm not gonna lose sleep over that choice when I probably won't be at Alpha v3 savage for awhile
I worked mine out to 4 too
Chest, pants, belt and bracelet
It feels really strange buying tome accs
if we're not counting Omega, HQ 380 crafted gear is good stuff to invest in to get into Alpha Savage right?
I worked it out to 4 tome/4 Alpha norm/4 hq 380 pieces for my bis not counting omega
Have a question for BLMs, as a non-BLM
8 crafted pieces
dios mio
On me
does it help at all if I Mana Shift you during your fire phase
"yes" it "can"
can mean an extra F4 cast
but not always the most convenient to adjust to
Save mana shifts for healers anyhow
use it on the BRD~
Unless you are padding the BLM
use it on the DRK with Darkside
had potential in O5S for padding memes
My imaginary BiS for SAM: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/17IQS
Prolly not enough SkS, but man that's a fuckin ton of Crit
Again, as Johni already showed, this is all anecdotal. Until the sims are done, this is not the BiS. This is just me fuckin around on Ariyala.
my BiS is whatever I want it to be
That said, I can't wait to equip this bullshit on my MNK lol

You shouldn't be spending tomes week 1 anyway
Right side items are good for memeing ilvl
But in the grand scheme of things is actually worse for making you do fatty deeps than leftside
tome ring can't be that bad
uhhh
so how do they sim it out?
tanks don't want sks
Tanks are goin fast this tier whether they want to or not
Theoretical DRK BiS is pointing at 2.32 GCD rn but most people seem to be going for the 2.37 setup because lol
Buying tome accesories doesn't actually seem that bad
saving for chest tho
which is tomorrow
:C
Going off the drg crafted vs tome the gain is 7 mainstat 0 vit 5/4 substat for acc vs 16 mainstat 22 vit 12/8 substat for chest
worth 20ilv amirite
Main benefit for left side is extra vit
so what are the pug strats for o10s
Pug strats I've seen so far are get hit by everything and die
probably one of those https://giant.gfycat.com/QuerulousMatureCowrie.webm
some of this https://gyazo.com/e6938f38bb267c43fc75e54c09d10d5a
Bc were lazy and that's all we would do
if the macro exceeds my chat window length im not reading it
NA needs their special snowflake individual strats
NA ink strat still weirds me out
Yeah
the ascended NA strat is to tank the boss far north and have everyone do whatever the fuck for ink
it's not hard to have different spots for different mechanics
but apparently NA are too special for that
I like reusing spots
If melee take inner circles you don't lose uptime so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
it's very easy to move to chakra if you don't know what's next if you're intoxicated or sleep deprived
spinning the boss while it can be kept in place, tanks not taking south melee chakras
still not as bad as JP forsaken 2


Imagine a strat made to make melees and tanks have the least uptime on F2
it's worse
and if i linked Arthars
time to link the old gem
omg
I learned why JP has so many more clears watching Arthars
It has fuck all to do with being better players. They just carry so hard. It's fucking insane.
they can follow the most obscure and weird strats to the perfection
It doesn't matter how shit someone is. They just stick it out to the end.
what a bunch of betas
But in NA people are more willing to leave if people don't pull their weight
He was doing O9S with the worst ninja in history
Held Trick Attack for 4 minutes to use it on the crystal
Pulled about 3.8-4k dps
If there was a single death they wouldn't meet the dps check
They carried that ninja to clear somehow
yikes
Arthars looked back at the server the ninja was from
5 of them were from the same server
The ninja was getting carried by friends
I don't get why shitty players choose to play Ninja
Literally the 2nd worst job to play badly
I am scared of playing Ninja because of how demanding the Job is
and I am able to parse Purple as a tank consistently
so i have some level of play
ninja and my ping are not friends
just forget that TK exists
and you'll be an alright Monk
forget that Trick Exists on Ninja and I'll come to murder ya

Dont use trick attack at all, that makes everyone else's dps higher and that makes you look bad 

plunge?
nice timing
it's not something I'd generally advise haha
yeah
ticks can make you take the DoT
and hope your healers love you
yeah it's a movement through there
it's a fast movement so sometimes you get lucky
but I've went through it once and it got me
I did that on my clear
and once is enough
It's more likely you don't get windburn though
even if it's more likely, it's still a thing that can pretty easily happen
it is also opposite sides chaos jump
cardinal to intercardinal jump has less risk

he always jumps to the farthest corner
held
trick attack
for four minutes
held trick attack for four minutes held trick attack for four minutes held trick attack for four minutes held trick attack for four minutes held trick attack for four minutes held trick attack for four minutes
did your brain explode
why trick attack three times and risk messing up the fourth
when you can trick attack once exactly when you need to?
they'd probably miss trick on the orb too
Missing trick on the orb which has no positionals
universe brain
Normal Brain: Use Trick on cooldown
Big Brain: Save Trick for just the right moment
Galaxy Brain: Never use Trick to encourage your party to git gud
Universe brain: use trick attack on your tank
am i going crazy or was there an editor to make fancy positioning diagrams
besides Paintbrush
You can plunge on tsunami too but people have reported wiping their party with the donut aoe lol
I want to try it but my static doesn't want me to try it
I wanna try it tonight lol

Tfw normal mode is savage
midgardsormr hell
the snapshotting in that fight is pretty yikes my dude
can't wait for exaflare prog
That circle aoe after first akh morn is spotlights all over again
tfw getting more enmity than sam and blm on birb ex even with shade and diversion
i cri
I'd normally expect a sam to be the next on the boss's kill list because it's what usually happens on my side 
spoiler sams and blms have diversion
and blm has lucid
and sam has an enmity splitting skill im p sure
idk
!action open eyes

!action merciful eyes
Instantly restores own HP.
<span style="color:#cc22ff;">Cure Potency:</span> 200
Cure potency varies with current attack power.
<span style="color:#cc22ff;">Additional Effect:</span> Reduces enmity by 20%
Can only be executed while under the effect of <span style="color:#ffff66;">Open Eyes</span>.
Shares a recast timer with <span style="color:#ff7b1a;">Hissatsu: Seigan</span>.
I thought shade + diversion would do more than enough tbh
haven't actively tested it though so eh
It's bad to use merciful eyes tho
Use diversion after shade
It's a big DPS waste.
Itโs not really
!physick
generate negative aggro
Just use shinten instead
!action physick
Restores target's HP.
<span style="color:#cc22ff;">Cure Potency:</span> 2,500
<span style="color:#cc22ff;">Additional Effect:</span> Increases <span style="color:#ff7b1a;">Faerie Gauge</span> by 5 when action restores HP of self or party member while in combat
Very minor dps loss
Shinten is worse.
sigh
Barely
Every merciful eyes is DPS lose so the only reason to use it is when A) there is no one to attack in the next 15 seconds B) the boss starts hurting you with his auto hits.
It's also the cost difference.
15 instead of 25 Kenki can go very high in a Boss Fight
It can also cause you to lose potency if your Kenki management gets fucked out of Trick

uh, I am using diversion after shade
That's your own fault then.
but right after shade so Idk if it stacks in some way
I don't play SAM
While you used merciful eyes I studied the Kenki bar.

I only play SAM in raids.
Pld are always useful.
How is it surviving brain cancer from running dungeons on this job?
i play drk in dungeons now
Good boi
pld in dungeons is a magical experience
I only go into dungeons as DPS when I got a tank friend with me.
Else I go warrior.
Got better things to do then waiting 25 minutes in DPS Q
Just go in as PLD, tell the healer to tank and become a Holy spirit spamming DPS.
Now you are a mage.
holy spirit spamming
@vapid tangle just did some math using this log
If all the seigans were shintens it would be at most a 22 dps loss
If he had less than 20 kenki at the end of the fight
7 seigans = 105 kenki = 4, potentially 5 shintens
Look at how often he uses merciful eyes.
No how many times he used merciful eyes is irrelevant
Since it doesnโt cost any kenki
...
Right?
correct, merciful eyes doesn't cost anything
Iโm saying if he used 0 seigans and pumped all he kenki into shintens instead
If he used merciful eyes every third eye
It would be at most a 20 dps loss
22*
Doesn't cost anything Kenki but like I said, dmg. It's all about damage optimization, so even if it would be 1 dmg you would do it for optimization sake.
We talking orange parses.
You said big dps waste
Also I'm pretty sure even with "just one" merciful eyes he didn't steal aggro.
Iโm saying itโs not a huge dps loss
Again, Iโm talking about the extreme
if he didnโt seigan at all
nerds lol
You also can't do the math like that because there are other important factors.
I took the average non-crit shinten damage vs the average seigan damage
So raid buffs are accounted for already
First the damage time on the boss. For example O5S for when the train is leaving and the Kenki you have at each step. You need to remember that every time he uses shinten he uses 10 more Kenki, which can be critical in many situations.
You can look at the Kenki he got overall in the entire fight but the most important situations are for example when you are supposed to Middare Setsugekka but you got only 10 instead of 20 Kenki.
Thatโs why I used a chad parse 
Forcing him to use two more GCD before using Middare. Situations where you use shinten forces you to plan ahead a higher Kenki production at certain points of your GCD
I mean when you do calculations like that you do it in a vacuum fight where there's pretty much 100% uptime
While it may not necessarily be accurate for all fights, it is the best cast scenario
You can look at the Kenki he got overall in the entire fight but the most important situations are for example when you are supposed to Middare Setsugekka but you got only 10 instead of 20 Kenki.
Isnโt this just bad play
Not necessarily. There are fights which allow you to meditate in the middle of it. Suzuka ex is a good example. When she flies away you can meditate for exactly 20 Kenki before you attack her again. You can then use third eye on her first aoe and gain sweet bonus dmg and lose only 15 Kenki.
You do shinten instead you may lose 5 Kenki which were already needed a bit deeper into your rotiation.
It depends from fight to fight, but the less optimal the fight is for uptime the more important it can become to have the ability to use lower costing Kenki abilities.
Alright lemme recalculate using the average non-raid buff shinten then
That should compensate slightly
It's 5:30 am so I Wana sleep, let's just end with the fact that Shinten isn't as good as seigan but that the difference isn't big enough for any non parse heavy guy to care about. Should be good enough.
25.3 dps loss
As a maximum possible loss from that log
Which should go even lower in fights with Long downtime
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I do lol
Guess my statement about those two abilities remains fitting then.
If there are no questions left I say now good night.
playing crit SAM
Unless youโre going for
it really doesnโt matter
4.3 BiS Sam had 450 crit. Long live skill speed.
Yeah as a drk I agree
Shouldn't SAM be SkS>Crit this tier?
Yeah sam didnโt change much
Your name betrays you
I had decent enough parses for non parse teamsetups ๐ฆ
The diff between crit and non crit was like on average
50 dps or something lmao
And high roll crit will always be better than high roll sks builds
with raid buffs diff between crit and sks was literally 4 dps
also seigan is +1.05 DPS per cast
Assuming you budget 15 kenki properly so that you don't fuck up your kaitens
Finally saw enrage on O9S. This shit's DPS check is fuckin wild lol
how fucked am i for not having been able to go into 9s this week?
i won't lie, i feel like i'm already screwed for not having cleared it week one
I had a group for sigma and did fine then, but I lack a group this time /shrug

for other people (like people who's statics are on it), it's easier
but pugging it has been rough.
middy dps check is harder
I can imagine.
we needed max 4 deaths
or we wont kill it before enrage
healer lb also made us skip weakness
so there is that
This group I've been running with. I don't think we can have more than a single death and it can't be the first or second DPS
our clear we finished it 88
I think our lowest was 90% lol
orb pop with most our burst on cd
so it was rough
to certain degree
or close call
to be exact
Man. FFLogs is showing me some painful things lmao.
75th percentile for MNK on O9S is 6323. I haven't hit that outside of my opener yet lol
They're probably using full crafted, maybe with Suzaku weapon too. That may be the reason if you aren't using that stuff
6.3k should be possible in 370
At 95th percentile, sure.
Even on dummy-ass Chardanook, 75th percentile was 6230.
And that's taking into account that you literally can't miss a positional in O6S.
I'm not concerned with 100th percentile MNKs because I've never been a 100th percentile MNK and I don't have any aspirations to be a 100th percentile MNK. I just want to clear the fight.
i tried to clear o9s first week but i just didn't have the bloody time
i didn't even clear suzaku ex
the even patches always drop at the worst possible moments
i cleared suzaku ex, but no weapon
too much bullshit happened this last week -sigh-
one day I even got locked out of my house, it's been insane.
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Half my O9S clear party would've been 99th percentile on Godka and we killed during earth cast of enrage or something
Granted one of the dps would... not have been 99th
snrk
But yeah, new tier new dps
like if i didn't clear this week, i'll...like i'm still gonna be able to find okay learning parties aren't I? D:
i mean i'm Nothing atm cuz no clear lol
Honestly, if I clear the fight, I'd be perfectly fine being mega grey for the first couple of clears. But if I'm 1st or 2nd DPS and I'm looking at a grey, I'm also not looking at a clear.
I feel like, if I'm doing 5600-5800dps and I'm top DPS, we're not clearing. And that's been my night.
yeah, O9S.
Yeah dps should be averaging over 6k
If dps do 6k, tanks do 4k, and healers do 2k you're still a bit under
don't forget LB3
if my smn can hit 6700 in o9s idk how mnk cant and he is i375 @unreal flax
I discarded my o9s page by mistake. Would FFXIV support give a damn if I submit a request?
you have a one time restore, but its' not worth using on a page.
I see. Thanks
healers can also hit combined 5k pretty easily
im 4770 as tank
full uptime
:((((((((((((
aiming to 4900 this reset
if you can't do 4.5k with full uptime (dummy for example) it's usually an ilvl problem
that's fine
4.5k full uptime with party buff/pots? 
My PLD is about 4.4k on dummy 3mins+ no food/pot/party
@uncut charm 10% slash res provided by your fellow war/nin/sam
how accepted is full vit meld
for every i400 left side you can unmeld one vit from an accesory i'd say
for savage prog
well I hope Vit VI isn't too expensive then
It's usually dirt cheap
How does the weekly lockout work for alpha savage?
Even if you miss loot you can roll for the rest of the week?
Or you just cant roll if you get something?
I assumed it was the latter but a friend is saying the former
This is the first tier I'm properly starting while relevant so not too sure tbh
You get one try at loot per floor per week. Any chests that are there on your weekly clear, you can roll and win
If you join any parties for that floor after you clear, you count against the number of people that cleared for the week for the group, making it either 1 or 0 chests that show up upon clear, depending on how many other people have already gotten their weekly
If it's a 1-chest party in that situation, you don't get a page, you don't even get to see the loot that is in the chest
Just the one page, and the one chance at rolling per week, regardless of if you try rolling out or win/don't win any loot
Another nuance too--if you don't get your clear for 9 for the week for example, but even enter 10 with another party, you are flagged as having cleared 9 for the week, and can't get any page/loot from it until next week
It's not too bad
At least there's pages now so you can eventually get your gear
Damn getting my drop yesterday was a godsend then!
for 1st time
I didn't realise it'd be that intense, that would explain the lack of farm parties
Yeah you can't really "farm" while there's weekly lockout going
mh farm parties are more once the lockout is removed
page runs is what you'll see for now
not bad but i made so many mistakes
Man, I was leaned really far back in my chair and I thought that was the DRG icon. I was dumbfounded like, "HOW IS 4.48k a PURPLE???" and then I sat up lol
Gratz Faye!
I had a sad parse
That was my clear last night, died once cos of stupid mistake
My target is around 6.7-6.8 and will attempt that in my page run later
Farm for durability damage
Thank you!














