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I sold the lvl 30 DRK weapon earlier but now I want to play DRK but the weaponsmith in Ishgard doesn't sell it and I can't craft it, how can I can it back ?
If you just want any DRK weapon check the MB
elbert in the pillars sells it
Could also check the basic weapons traders in the hub cities
They should have some drk weapon
I did, he doesn't
The earliest DRK weapon is lvl 34
I'll check, thanks !
the link i gave has all vendors with it
it is in ishgard
look in my link
I did
yes and it gives the vendor there
adaillie and elbert are both in ishgard
is "next devaluation" any indication of housing timer? or how long it's been for sale already?
how should i level/skill blu
Yue - It is in a WAY. The First Devaluation happens at a fixed point, after that every six hours, and based on the size/location of the plot, there's a defined curve
So if you're on say the third devaluation, you know it's "at least" 12 hours old since it's had 2 devaluations since the first. The problem is if it went on the market 20 hours before that first fixed devaluation, it's 32 hours old. If it went on the market a second beforehand, it's just 12 hours.
oh ;w; how do you know how maby
devaluations?
If you do some googling you'll likely find the tables showing the values/devaluation curves
thanks!
You'd have to know the plot and it's curve. So the curve might say a Tier 4 small selling at X price means it's had it's third deval.
IT's a really complex system on the back end.
are FATE's best method for alexandrite grind?
no, buy mystery maps with poetics from auriana
how much are those?
75
oof
wish i didn't buy my scaevan gear now
I'm at a place with 30 min left at 3,187,500, can i assume it hasnt devalued yet?
unless a higher class plot devalues to that, correct
can anyone tell me how to level up a class fast, i switched from gladiator to rouge cause i didnt like gladiator
!faq altlvlguide
oh nvm wow that's good didn't realise its 5 per map from a guide
if you're still doing msq just do that
yeah but its the copperbell mines and im lvl 4 lmfao
hunting logs, class quests and FATEs
where do i find hunting logs
H by default
Do minor patches to the game (5.x) typically bring in new soundtracks?
if on console, it's in the logs section
yes with new trials and raids
5.x would be a major patch, by the by
yeah
minor patches would be 5.xx
Ah that should have been obvious, I was thinking MSQ. But you are right. Thank you.
that too
but yeah sometimes there's new songs added
You're right, I was thinking semver's terminology for "minor".
new content = new music usually
Is there any sort of cooldown on my ability to send mail to the same friend, or does the "Unable to send letter to ___" always mean their mailbox is full?
usually mailbox is full
also can't send more as 5 mails per day to the same person iirc
I guess that also partly explains why the current expansion OST is not on spotify. The OST isn't "Done" until the next one.
FFXIV actually has a Guinness World Record for largest video game soundtrack
Where do I unlock The Navel and The Howling Eye (Hard) versions? Next MSQ requires both of those and the Bowl of Embers (Hard) - which I already have access to
I know that the Shadowbringers OST album started with a bunch of tracks from I think 4.1-4.5 ish, so I'd imagine Endwalker will do the same.
I can't seem to find forest funguars
And yeah, I have only 4 of the OST albums (Before Meteor, Heavensward, Far Edge of Fate, & Shadowbringers) and it's over 20 hours. So the full has to be somewhere in the 30+ hour range not including the unreleased stuff, the Primals reduxes, etc.
Central Shroud, Isekai.
@hollow violet Return Ye to the Waking Sands, I believe.
need to complete bowl of embers (hard), then garuda's quest will be at the waking sands from papalymo. Complete howling eye (hard) and then titan's will be available in the waking sands from y'shtola @hollow violet
is it literally a chance every second for a housing plot to go on the market as purchaseable?
Back there? I thought everyone moved to the Rising stones 🙂 Thanks!
it's a weird continuity issue, don't worry about it 😅
lol roger that
Time bubbles
Sio -Yes. From the point it goes on market, the timer is 100% random to the secon
would be nicer if it was 30 second intervals XD
To help the click spamming, turn on your numpad. I THINK the sequence to buy a house is something like 0,0,0,4,0. Test it out, but it's something like that.
Much easier to tap that out than click spam
It's exceedingly rare for a house to go buyable within 5-6 hours, and prime time starts 8-9 hours in. So if you have a good idea of when the plot was vacated, you can just go there 8 hours in, and save yourself 8 hours of clicking.
I need help if anyone knows what to do I keep gettin this error when updating my client (just started) and it won’t let me download the game and I just bought the expansion and game time anyone know what to do? My errors are 30413 25008 20495 20495
I don’t remember going through this on my last pc when I first started downloading the client or what I did if I did go through this
If anyone knows or can help pls let me know I’m not on steam if that helps
i didnt have to use that keyboard thing until someone else finally stopped by the plaque XD
hi, is there a website to see the exact location of hte elite marks monsters?
What're the essential spells for blurum vale? I guess ultravib now, but what else do i need to know?
The freeze mobs one from Cutter's
Rams, ultras, missile for first two bosses and primal shit to blow up last boss
Is spamming the MSQ Roulette a good way to level and get Tomestones at the same time? Or does it only give good XP once a day with the bonus?
Only good xp with bonus
Only do it once a day for the bonus, along with your other roulettes like leveling.
gotcha ty 😄
it just hit first devalutation
Hi, at what level I get to chose a grand company? I'm 29 already!
Do the story
GC is MSQ based, proceed with the MSQ and you'll eventually join one
Ok please help me understand command missions. People say they're great for xp and you can clear quickly but holy cow the AI is really bad. I have to mark every enemy with engage for the tank to actually notice them, all the squad members stand in every aoe damage and the healer can't keep up. Do they get better? Cuz right now it seems like duty roulette is a much better option
they're better if your queue times suck
because running those dungeons with the ai gives mildly increased exp
in comparison
but it can take a bit longer if they don't have the right tactics
Hey is it just me or does it seem like you roll under 50, 90% of the times more than actually over 50
rng is rng
I've done 20 rolls so far and not one was over 30 
🤷♂️
thats just confirmation bias
i could say the same about my rolls and my static mate always rolling 99s
that doesn't mean its true that rolls are always worse
yeah but rolling under 30, 20x in a row is slim to impossible
Do they learn tactics through those 18 hour missions or only through command missions?
your squadron has a chance of increasing their tactics upon completion of a command mission
which type you get is random
Damn so I just gotta deal with the bad AI for a while I guess
it really isn't as impossible as you think since each roll is independent from another
thats how statistics work
yeah, but imagine having a dice of D6 and roll 20 of them, the chance of them being all under 2 is very unlikley, but I'll put in some statistics to it for a 100 rolls and see
i doubt its weighted to be unfavourable to you in particular thats just placebo
you're just confirming your own bias by only remembering bad rolls
Woudln't suprise me if the game was coded against you to make grinding more
Rng is ass sometimes
Just get over it
There 99 numbers to roll in each seperate scenario
the game literally handholds you with so many guaranteed ways to get stuff
Shits gonna happen
totems, tomes, books, tokens, etc
ive missed 3 out of 4 hits on nodes at 95% chance regularly
I'd recommend making sure to change it up and sometimes do the duty roulette even with the queue over the AI, stro, unless you only play at times where the wait is redonk. Trying to grind out that much with the AI will drive you spare.
i've had bad rng happen to me before, like 40 drops in maps and didn't get a single one. it happens to all of us
if its not 100, it's 75% at best XD
trying to correlate independent roll situations is just bad for your mental health
doesen't matter
it does though
since all thats happening right now is complaining. there's no actual question
can keep your tin foil hat on that your rng specifically is weighted against you
I guess
but realistically you just happen to have had a series of independent low rolls
sometimes it be like that. RNG is RNG
I've played this game since ARR. RNG is a crapshoot. There is no mercy, this isn't a gachapon.
it tends to feel like o ther games/RPGs tend to have some kind of pity factor in if you've gotten a bunch of low rolls
You roll a fresh 0-99 anytime you roll.
just not XCOM
That's why so much of the gear is tomestone-related. Those are guaranteed. So it offsets a bad run of RNG.
tomestones are to keep lev 80s helping out with lower content
Why I’m much closer to getting Thordan’s bird from 99 runs than a drop...
Because RNG is RNG
At 80 Sio, sure, but I also mean across other points of leveling. If I'm doing dungeons close to 70 I might miss out on drop after drop that's an upgrade from my 60's gear and that sucks. But the poetics I'm getting mean when I hit 70 and finish that side of the story I'll be able to upgrade slots with the newly unlocked stuff.
leveling dungeons guarantee you a piece you can equip on completion
level cap dungeons do not since tome gear would be better than whatever you wanted from the dungeon
The only reason you should have problems getting gear while levelling is if you're not using MSQ or Dungeons to level
But then it shouldn't matter because you're not doing on level content anyways
poetics only help at 50 60 70, at 66 they arent really helping
If you want gear at level 66, either buy it or run Bardum's
They're accumulating for 70, so in the long term they are. My point being that even if RNG is being unkind, there's enough sources of gear NOT tied to RNG it shouldn't cripple anyone's progression.
I think triple triad actually has a pity factor. When I get beaten a bunch of times, the AI suddenly starts making awful decisions about card placement. But it also works vice versa. If I've been bullying a NPC for a while, it suddenly wisens up and starts beating the crap out of me.
well yeah, worst come to wear its msq and pvp roulettes
I mean, hell, better than the old days of MMO's where not only was RNG your only real option, people could fake rolls. That shit used to be infuriating.
yall with these rng conspiracy theories lol
anyways what's the max timer for house purchase cooldown?
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I don't know there's ever been on definitively defined.
i thought it was 72 hours
realistically though, not more than a couple days
Practically speaking I don't think I've ever heard of one being more than like, 4 days.
There's no way to know for sure
Nope, definitely seen plots go more than 24 hours. Fell asleep camping one once.
But dont expect anything
i know FC mates going for 40+ hours on one plot
cursed af, ty tho!
It's jokingly called Housing <Savage> for a reason.
its pretty bad
so i abandoned a quest and the npc for starting is not there anymore?
id almost rather deal with price gouged sell plots above their typical gill amount than deal with the rando timer
glad im not trying to get a house 
my main has a house, just wanted to get my alt a house before ishgard housing if that's at hing
you can only do those if you already have a plot and want to move right? never understood how scalping house plots work
you used to instabuy
Eclipze - What quest?
legacy of allag
they changed it to a random timer to avoid RMT
Unless it was a holiday quest...
now you can sell an fc house to someone but it's going to stay an FC house
they just give you all leader permissions and remove anyone elses
Weird Eclipze... you're sure it's not buried in your quest log?
my main got a medium from a friend that bought a dissolving FC as a gift 2 christmases ago XD
on top of getting a random shirogane plot in 4.4
There's still RMT that happen for people shifting plots, but it's more controlled.
i dont have any quests active right now
well you have to have a house to do the shifting plot in the first place now
which i want to camp a medium or something in the goblet and have a personal medium XD
when new housing drops
I'm hoping for Mist beachfront property
like i get beachfront property IRL but in a video game? i'd rather be somewhere next to the aetheryte and bell and boards XD
so this is weird, i remember abandoning the quest, but somehow the next quest in the questline is available now
this is obsolete, right?
yes
so many useless npc's left over lol
those npcs still exist for the off chance that someone still has old lockboxes'
Guarentee they've thought about removing them and did a data sweep and there's some bastard hoarding a box just so they can say "Look at this cool old item I have!"
<-- Note - I have all the old moogle tomestones, at least one of each I've done, because I'm a dirty dirty hoarder
haha that's true. ppl love holding on to content that disappears
When using the resources command on kupo bot how do i write it out to make a title a link to a discord message?
resources add "title" [text] (url)?
Can you limit the number or status effects showing on target? Like having maximum of 5-10 status showing so it doesn’t clutter the UI
Not on your target no
Trying to clean my UI in raids I feel it get cluttered by status effects UI part
Would something like crafting current bis food or good crafter food like crab cakes be worth it? CUL is my only levelled crafter and I'd like to make some gil
yes, but you'll need pentamelded 490 gear and HQ chili crab to get the best chance
hq chili crab isn't a necessity
if you can't afford it blood bou and matcha are still fine alternatives, but you're more at the mercy to condition procs and quality gain rolls
I see I see, Ty for the help, gonna start trying to gear my crafters anyway so I'll start doing that
@abstract vapor One handy note, Status effects you put on a target SHOULD move to the front. SO like if there's 3 paladins in the raid, your Goring Blade DoT should be the first listed and should have a greenish number as opposed to white for the timer.
Oh wow I never noticed that because I always get confused asWHM sometimes is my DoT up or gone good to know that
my friend is trying to Q Normal Raids Roulette, shes level 69 DPS class, but it says normal requirements are not met. What could be a reason why?
You haven't unlocked any Alexander raids
does she have 2 or more alexander raids unlocked
Or not enough anyway
She has them unlocked x
is she wearing enough gear
Yeah her average Ilv is 270
these are teh requirements
Double check what Alexander raids she has
Cause at 69 its only picking Alexander stuff
So its saying you dont have 2 or more
Or you dont, or someone in the group anyway
Yeah she doesnt have enough unlocked
Shes able to get in becasue she has omega on her level 70 jobs
what does "Display only detrimental effects you inflict" in the Character HUD setting do 
okay thanks &_&
what do you mean by chain strat .. sorry if its dumb q.
Scholars chain strat
!action chain stratagem
!action trick attack
Delivers an attack with a potency of 350.
500 when executed from a target's rear.
Additional Effect: Increases target's damage taken by 5%
Duration: 15s
Can only be executed while under the effect of Hidden.
those are both debuffs applied to the enemy
you won't see those if you have that setting on
oh okay
useful to see those for coordinating burst
ah fair
but troublesome in raids when the boss has ten billion debuffs and you gotta just uh, update dots when you roughly think it's time
but I see why
yeah thats why I was trying to clean my UI sometimes I lose my DoTs lol
smh imagine not counting till 30 seconds are up
your dots are always in front though
they are?
Yes
god questions and help is just full of great facts today ngl
I've had six revelations in the past two days from this channel
yes but if you are dumb like me and see 4 WHM Dots and think one of them is yours lol
The numbers are also green for yours
this is amazing
It's just a matter of getting used to it
I might actually play smn again
god bless the guys in here helping us 

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what do people use to look for specific glamour pieces and whatnot, anything third party that is like wow's transmog collection?
isnt eorzea collection for full glamours
there's a pinned message in #glamour-discussion with various resource sites
ah, thanks
can i see on some website which servers have restricted access?
still trying to get onto twintania ^^'
!faq worldstatus
thx! really annoying that I can't create my first character trying to refresh every 3 minutes in the menu so this helps a lot
wait for off hours
Ok, thanks 🙂 can you un sync, or does it need to be synced?
Sync
no, its a post ARR quest
I cant learn my level 52-54 spells at all as level 55 and some people said i have to start heaveansward
goddang it so is till have a long way to go
Msq
there's a title card screen when you get to the expansion, so you will know when you've entered Heavensward
and sad
you needed to upload your hud settings to the cloud from your old computer and then download them to your new computer
MSQ is the answer to almost all questions of "why can't I do [thing]"
end of ARR is sad
if you overrode your old computer's hud settings then you cant get it back
Where's the best place to discuss FFlogs and other mechanic minutae?
here, or you can ask in #endgame-lounge
I'm trying to figure out a couple of things regarding the Eden's Promise logs. First, I'm surprised Black Mage is so high on damage but so low on popularity. Second, which may explain the first, I'm trying to understand why Black Mage has one of the biggest damage ranges. My initial thought is that Black Mage might be harder to play than most classes (which would explain the big delta).
Channy really wants to answer endgame questions today. 🙂
Movement would be the simplest answer, I think.
I really don't 😏
I logged in on my old computer, but the HUD settings was already "updated" to when I uploaded it on my new computer with the outdated file though
Black mage has a ton of movement tools at its disposal that make for the skill gap for many players
I wouldn't take the uploaded data for face value on job popularity though
We have no official data regarding that
black mage is a turret caster that relies on staying still to attack and a lot of players have a hard time making use iof its movement skills
but it is one of the top dps, at least it was for last tier
The relies on staying still is a bit disingenuous as every job benefits from not running around like a dingus
Moving unnecessarily is stupid on every job
Black mage is what's defined as selfish dps
It provides very little in terms of utility to the group, but it can do very high damage
And all casters would have to utilize their movement tools just as much
Selfish dps just means "high damage, low raid utility". That's not why there's such a huge range of damage on logs.
So it's the sheer number of movement skills then?
Are the movement skills hard to use?
i meant you need to stay still to cast and each cast takes a few seconds and you have 15 seconds total to keep your combo going
For BM?
No
Its figuring out how to use them on every job relevant to the encounter
It's less about the number of movement skills and more about the fact that many people don't use them efficiently to maximize their uptime.
also damage =/= popularity
This doesn't make it any less more or less difficult to move
Indeed. I was just trying to understand why Black Mage would have a harder time staying still than other jobs. You said "Black mage has a ton of movement tools at its disposal that make for the skill gap for many players".
It would be more arguable to say that white mage would be tougher on movement because it has fewer instant cast options for continuous movement
UGH
i was saying its a turret caster
WHM suffers a lot from constant movement from a dps perspective.
Lots of the errors new players make really consist of not using their tools properly
Plenty of ways to heal while moving, but limited options to keep up Glare.
People not understanding how to make good use of those tools and how they line up with mechanics makes shows the skill disparity
That makes sense, but wouldn't that be true across all Jobs? Black Mage has - by far - the biggest range of damage on Eden's Promise.
So something is special about Black Mage
Its true to an extent to all jobs
blm arguably has a higher skill ceiling than most jobs
Because the nature of BLM, more than any other job, is that they want to be able to stand still, at least for the duration of their Leylines.
But as cerberus mentioned black mage has a lot of longer casts
But Promise is a very high movement fight, which means finding your window to drop Leylines and freecast is harder.
also a lot of people get told "you have to stand still as a blm, and know fights perfectly" and get turned off of it
thinking its super hard job to play
So what inevitably ends up happening is people tend to drop casts and lose uptime so they do less damace
And that's where the skill gap comes in.
when realistically its not that different from other jobs, and takes practice
I see, ty all for the overview!
This isn't that true there are heavy movement phases but prepull leylines helps them all line up as needed mostly
As far as the first issue, why are number of parses a bad way to judge popularity of a job in a Eden's Promise?
I have a question, is there a way I can get a free fantasia past ARR?
Okay, that's fair.
because not everyone plays savage and people switch classes all the time
and not everyone brings their favorite job to savage
Plenty of people don't bother parsing for one, and two not everyone does savage
some people might just bring a melee dps even if they're neutral to it just because a static needs a melee
Compared to other games, would the people who play savage be about the same percentage as people who do higher tier raids
No
Parses are player uploaded. If you don't/can't upload a fight it doesn't show
Also not everyone uses act
And not everyone does parsed contrnt
The percentage of players who do Savage in XIV is a fraction of the percentage of players who do Heroic or Mythic raiding in WoW.
The total number of parse uploads doesn't matter, does it? Except to ensure you have a good sample size (I think tens of thousands is pretty good?). The differences are all relative. The only way the relativity would matter is if one Job is uploading parses much more than another, and I can't see a reason why that would ever happen.
I know it doesn't represent the whole population of a job, but it does represent the differences in popularity between jobs.
not really
sure but youre pulling samples from a specific type of people (those who enjoy endgame raids) which isn't reflective of the majority of people who play xiv
^
a lot of players dont do savage
Yeah, but my question was about popularity in Eden's Promise.
Does anyone no if drop rates have changed for vexatious memories. Ain’t getting any😤
we gave you other reasons why it still isn't a good predictor of popularity
They were buffed a while ago but it's still rng
Black Mages are heavily under-represented in Eden's Promise.
I wonder why...
You're looking at maybe 1% of people in the entire game as not everyone who does either normal or Savage Eden runs ACT or uploads logs.
It's a very small subset.
Of the people that do savage not all of them upload logs
hell, it's a subset of a subset
I doubt the majority of people that do savage raids use logs or upload them
I don't think I'm explaining myself very well.
Most people doing normal aren't uploading to ACT. Only a fraction of the people doing Savage are bothering to upload to ACT.
So you're still not getting a good idea of the popularity of a job in that content.
I'm not asking about normal or the total population. I'm asking about the population of Eden's Promise players.
But why though?
Also, are we differentating between people who do savage as their primary thing and those who do savage occasionally with the FC or friends here
Curiosity?
Also what
You don't want the normal or the total?
You just the savage then?
No real metrics exist
Closest is act uploads and that's as we've explained a terrible metric
are you trying to ask which job people enjoy the most or what
The logs for Savage represent a fraction of a fraction of a percent.
It's a fine metric.
Back in Stormblood i did savage with my FC, but it wasn't my primary interest with the game, as a reference
there's always an optimal party comp for savage and that may mean ppl will have to play classes they don't enjoy
it's not a good metric of popularity or enjoyment
But we also had a fair few who did savage because they enjoyed it to a certain extent to
numeric measures can't be used in qualitative analysis, anyways
The game is well balanced enough that any job can clear any content.
well true, but sometimes people want, say, an sch or a nin
are any missions soloable in sub 5 mins for the moogle tomes ?
Not really.
can't solo for esoterics
Quantitative analysis provides a foundation to ask qualitative questions on
You have to do everything synced for the event tomes.
The only thing that you could do in 5 minutes or so would be a BLU + tank AV run.
hmhm , any recommended content? i dont have a lot of time to play
It's just interesting that a class that puts out (at least) top 2 damage is the in the bottom 3 classes played in that same content.
dont have a blue either 
I was trying to understand why
what are moogle tomes
BLU bring Ram's Voice + Ultravibration for trash, Final Sting for the last boss.
the popularity of a job and how much damage it does are unrelated
Event currency for the currently ongoing event.
Yes
you just said black mage does a ton of damage and is one of the least popular classes
Because the game is balanced enough that outside of enough party comp to get the variety bonuses party makeup doesn't matter
there's an ongoing event right now?
Hmm, yeah I suppose if the competitive scene (assuming Eden's Promise is competitive) is much less than that of WoW.
... yes.
Agree
There's a rule to any game that has raids, there will always be optimized comps that math the encounter out to it's fullest to what will perform the best
Blm has high potential dps but has to stay still most of the time so its unpopular because of all the movement needed for the raid mechanics
There's no real "competitive" raiding scene in XIV compared to WoW.
High potential dps isn't enough
Even W1st isn't anywhere near the scale that it is for WoW.
can you do the dungeons unsync'ed to get the moogle tomes?
no
Neither of which are representative of the full subset of players participating in savage
it has to be sync'd
or making the most cursed wedding photos in gpose
I think this is the answer that seems to make the most sense.
Again it doesn't have to stay still any more or less than other casters
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That's why it's not in a lot of fflogs but again fflogs is still a poor metric for what jobs are being used the most in raids
Its disingenuous to imply that when it has more movement tools than red mage does
like i said, just because a class can do big damage doesnt mean it will be popular
what content should i queue up for then? i only really want 50 moogle tomes in shortest time possible
Rival wings
Find an aurum Vale blu group in pf or make your own
I don't see why it's a poor metric for what jobs are being used in raids.
Because only a fraction of people doing raids upload logs
Trying to discern popularity when it isn't always a statistically applicable reason is why its not valid
Sometimes people just don't
And thats it
It doesn't matter if a fraction of folks are uploading logs, as long as that fraction is the same from job to job.
Because unlike WoW where every single team of all skill levels has at least one person running and uploading logs, XIV teams that do so are far fewer.
They're not representative of the whole population of Savage raiders.
Also, as other people have said, the balance in ffxiv is fantastic unlike wow, so every class is viable for every sort of content.
Yep, that's also to do with that WoW has active logging addons that are allowed by the developers
It absolutely is? Relatively speaking it should be perfectly representative.
And uploaded public logs don't show all logs uploaded
And also only show completed runs
Whereas logging in FF14 is a greyzone, it's not allowed per se, but as long as it's used for personal use it is allowed
ahh yes, a minority of a minority, perfectly representative
The 15 people in my friend circle are perfectly representative of the population of my city
By your logic
It's not though. We're talking about maybe 1% of 5% of all the players in the game.
sigh
The 5% being savage raiders, and the 1% being those who actually upload their logs.
I think I'm over the topic, some folks are resorting to condescension and I'd rather just not.
1-5% is pretty representative of the top end raiders for most MMO's to be fair
I was a Mythic raider in WoW. It's such a different thing.
How does upgrading from a trial account on Steam even work? Do you just buy the full game on it and continue onwards?
And how does gifting in that sense work, same deal?
A small percentage of something might be representative of something larger. But just by looking at the uploaded logs you can't draw that conclusion. You don't know anything about the people uploading them.
Yep. That's exactly how it works.
@slim remnant buy the game and enter your cd key into mogstation
Sure, many more below that does difficult raids, but talking top end difficulty 1-5% is more or less the norm
Logs in ff14 are from a third party software that technically violates tos. As such the uploaded logs are representative of a very small percentage of those actually doing the raids
There are no official logs
uh like 10% of the population of every server owns eden mount
You understand the percentage of people uploading logs doesn't matter when you are looking at the RELATIVE differences between job populations?
that 10-20% that have cleared the final boss
so more have cleared lower floors lmao
I mean sure if you're not accounting for any bias whatsoever and picking at what's essentially random
The problem is you're trying to take the percentage of people uploading logs and then extrapolate that data to the entire playerbase. Which you can't do because it's inaccurate.
That's what we're trying to explain.
It might not matter, assuming the small percentage you are looking at actually is representative of the whole. But you can't just assume it is.
difference between augmented and non augmented law order equipment, cosmetic wise?
none
Spoiler alert: alot of players in this game are bad
augmented can be dyed
ok ty ty
I was never making the assertion it represented the entire playerbase, I was making the assertion of players in Eden's Promise
Black Mage, in Eden's Promise, is an unpopular job.
Again, not everyone who raids uploads logs
And even then the data is insufficient to extrapolate.
you need a representation
One could very well argue that the people who are uploading logs care more about the game than the people who do not. So they may well be above the actual curve in terms of performance.
Just an example of how the data presented there might not be representative.
Meara's here. Time to stop.
how to get bozjan runner secret again? 🤔

Jesus, dam
For law order its from savage, for bojzan its CLL
what's the droprate chance? 😮
Or exchange alot of coins
¯_(ツ)_/¯
oh I have that coins, how many 🤔
999
999
🤑
Still sad DRS couldn't be sold
I was just trying to understand why Black Mage was an unpopular job among players in Eden's Promise (or players that upload parses - not that the two should be different).
we told you why
not a good prog class maybe?
Its a fine prog class
Its a difficult class to prog with because of trying understand and work with your movement tools
But BLM requires a lot of forethought to achieve top DPS
But that doesn't extrapolate to the data you're asking about
Prog in general is tough
Plus RDM and SMN have a raise which is useful in progging to conserve healer MP
blm requires you to really know the fight to know where to stand to move as little as possible
mm, that's not exactly true
Not unpopular, just not a team player.
it's more about knowing the job better and being able to take advantage of the tools it has in order to keep uptime. Which, there are a lot of tools nowadays. Sure better positioning and such can and will help, but things like that help other jobs, too
Yeah, that's why I was confused.
Spam CLL
Yeah
DR doesn’t drop the bozjan augments or bozjan coins
All the logs shown are not all the clears shown
DR has its own set of augments/coins
then plan is to get augmented law order gear
means I need to do DR savage as well? 🤔
for Orderly Runner's Secrets
ty ty
I thought it's easy 😂
how much bozjan coin per CLL run again? 🤔
approximate
50
they said from CLL
if you are the role in need, sure
just keep in mind though, that the exp from role in need doesn't really make up for lack of daily xp bonus
so if you're trying to double dip on that, its going to be a bit meh.
I am trying to help a friend get gc seals for his promotions
that's what we are after
idk the fastest method
for the time when you need seals and can't turn gear in yet it's servicable
make sure he's doing his grand company hunting log
He finished all 3
If he's finished all three ranks of the hunting log, then he should be high enough for expert delivery
^
Sergeant second class
What's the most iconic black mage hat called? I'm trying to find it on eorzea glamour database
There are quite a few "iconic" ones
There's a lot of hats with a similar silhouette
Gotta be more specific I'm afraid 😅
Hmm, something most similar to the one Vivi wore?
Almost every black mage artifact armor has the Big Fuckin Hat
I suppose the level 50 artifact gear would probably be the closest?
I thought so too, but when I search for most loved Miqo'te black mage outfits, all I get is skin
lol
Search for blackmage artifact armor or something like that
Or job gear
cool ty
Yeah, you'll probably find whatever you are trying to
That's because most catgirls are horny on main
Is there a lore reason for the one (or many) hats with the eye patch/covering?
This was for males! LOL
Because cool guys dont look at explosions
It is known that Black Mages deal more damage the less they show of their face.
Catboys are too, cats in general really...
Touche, Dioch
Aww, I was hoping they ritualistically blinded themselves
Ask the Dark Knights why their armours are so pointy
That's metal as fuck
If you have a base idea of the Japanese chuunibyou syndrome its just representative of that
cause of the edge 👀
Basically they are hiding their great power
And it manifests through their arcane control of the elements or some bs like that
megumin meme
"My right eye is burning! I cannot allow this power to escape!"
How do I get past the Steps of Faith? I assume it's not spoilery but if it is, don't say. I'm at a point where the MSQ is || Guardian of Eorzea just after beating Ramuh || But I wanted to play some Triple Triad and collect cards. Though I am missing a lot of areas.
Hey, Dragoons actually have a reason for pointy armour for once
Keep going in the MSQ.
Do more story
Always the answer
Ok thanks guys, I will
I thought some areas were side areas you unlock with sidequests, but apaprently not .)
is it normal for me to keep paying gil to teleport around the world? i'm almost broke because of it
Thank you
"Do more story" has been the answer to so many of my noob questions. I can attest.
yes
Yes
There's nothing else for you to spend gil on
Nope. Steps of Faith is the bridge that leads to Ishgard - the main hub city of Heavensward.
so can all of my desynthesize levels be maxed out, or is there still some kind of weird cap?
You can make use of chocobo porters to move more slowly at a cheaper cost. Or walk. Eventually money for teleporting isn't an issue if you don't spend up the wazoo on stupid shit
Also, Beerye, beware the Reborn slog. Apparently it's killed many a new player.
@faint flare ah ok. thanks! if i keep following my msq, will i always have enough gil?
All levelled yes
yes
The game - apparently - gets much less tedious after Reborn.
Yes, provided you dont buy anything stupid
i remember there was some weird restriction on the desynth levels, were they removed?
Yes
there is actually very little you need to spend gil on
If you only spend your gil on repairs and travel while leveling, you'll have over 1M gil by the time you get to the end of HW.
ok ty
And something like 3M by the time you hit the end of Shadowbringers.
I've always travelled with teleportation and I sometimes remember to get my gear fixed, and I got 511,550 gil. I don't buy anything tho. Not sure if I should or not but I've been doing OK with the gear I got through quests.
Not sure what else gil is good for
you dont need to spend gil on anything but teleporting
Gil is the lazy man way to get stuff
Gil is mostly useful for the player economy.
And housing
And housing
The housing endgame is real in ff14
Otherwise yeah, there's not that much to spend it on.
housing and glamour
I would love to get into getting a house. I assume I could store things there too? N oidea how that system works tho
Quest/dungeon/tomestone gear is more than sufficient for leveling.
Can't store things in houses per se
Only furniture
Housing is basically just a personal space you can decorate. You can store housing items/furnishings in the storehouse if you have housing, but otherwise no.
As well as merchants
I've yet to get into retainers and stuff.
You should have access to retainers by now unless you're on free trial.
They're banks are bare minimum
housing can also make money if you know how to use garden plots effectively
Yup, you also have the chocobo saddlebag
I would love to but I've been doing MSQ, Triple Triad and some random side questing. Oh and Gold Saucer stuff.
That acts as a secondary bank
Oh right the Chocobo!
don't worry, there's a lot of stuff in this game and you don't need to do everything at once 🙂
Yep!
what's universal tank armor that has cape beside eureka armor? 🤔
not counting augmented law order fending mail
since it's tough 😂 looking for an escapism method, there might be one
What do you mean by universal? All tanks have the same gear anyway
diamond armor
the chivalric mail of fending
universal suggests its not artifact gear
shire armor kinda
Good point
cryptlurker kinda
which in the case of 6.0 paladin would have a cape but its not equippable by other tanks
Cryptlurker has that Dark Souls feel if you are into that
Yee
nice
So, what's the best class in terms of farming enemies for material etc
Summoner is probably a strong one with it's dots
huh? 😮
blue mage assuming theyre not lvl 70+
Don't have blue leveled or unlocked
Then whatever has strong upfront damage to nuke stuff
then whatever you have 😂
do you have to tank as a tank class or can you choose to do dps only
you have to tank
it's ur job
As their primary focus
So i think i finished the first expansion? lvl 57 now, finished all lvl 50 MSQ but now after all this i get like super filler quests in MSQ, like all of them lvl 50, all of them escort, talk, back and forth.... what is this? i was told only the start would be literally braindead
Thats still ARR
is this the 100 quest grind i ve been reading
80 now
man why they do this
story
so u suggest getting another class so i can lvl it up as i do msq?
While waiting for the expansion
yes because at 57 youll be overleveled for HW
if you bought the dlc then you can pick up red mage or samurai which both start at lvl 50
I mean, it's hard to avoid being overleveled with the road to 70 buff
But how that works in terms of fighting mobs and intances?
wym
You get given basic gear
it gives you gear when you unlock them
do you need the dragonsung tool while crafting oddly specific skysteel tools for it to count
if i take samurai class, will i lose my paladin lvls?
one of teh crafting requirements is using said tool
Are there any Archon-esque (Diablo 3 Wizard) beam abilities?
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do we know the most efficent way to farm moogle tomes without blu?
Pvp
Are orchestrion rolls included in the "1 piece of loot per week" restriction on normal raids? So if I wanted The Legendary Beast, I could just queue over and over again and pass on everything but the roll?
no theyre not included
Can i only get a limited amount of the event currency or do the dungeons marked have unlimited entries to get the event curewncy?
unlimited
yall i must be super blind but can someone link me where to download the client for pc 8_8 i cant find it anywhere
!faq download
Question: If an item isn't eligible to be stored in your Armoire, is there another place in the game besides carrying it around in your Armoury?
glamour dresser
Retainers, glamour dresser
What makes it eligible for armoire anyway
good question i have no idea
AF1 gear or event items
Lv45/50 job gear
There's an icon in hte upper right hand corner of items which will note whether it's eligible for glamour dresser or armoire.
Is the Black Mage mechanic similar to Arcane Mage in that you blow all your mana and then go into a conserve phase where you get it all back
then repeat?
that is sorta of a simplified way of putting how black mage plays yes
the blow all your mana phase would be the phase where you jam as many fire spells in as you can
and then you swap to the ice phase and use that phase to regenerate mana, throw out filler spells, refresh your dot, etc.
Arcane would be the closest comparison
I believe there's even a capstone spell to the Fire rotation that's literally "Dump all mana", iirc. Haven't played Black Mage in forever.
!action despair
I think they meant capatone as in the final fire spell of the rotation
Can you get the event tomestones from the same duty multiple times?
Yes
Yes
But yes, BLM is basically Arcane mage
thanks
What do you do when you level up do you have points to spend or something
Cheesust chrust
I mean, that's mmo standard
Nothing really happens when you level up
Just maybe get a new skill now and then
And able to equip higher level gear
can I use the steam client to login via a non-steam account?
No
omg do I have do download 40gb all over again ?
yes
thanks anyway
so for trove I figured maybe I run prae n castrum for exp. but do they only give the Hella Exp once a day? or can you keep running msq roulette for okay exp?
Once a day for good xp
after the one time, how much exp do they give tho?
Barely any
they're endgame instances so essentially nil aye
After 80 quests
can someone send me a SS of the performance tab in actions and traits ? Not on my pc rn
hi! for the mogmog collection event, can you earn those event tomestones from squadron?
It looks like I have to complete the Labrynth of the Ancients raid to continue MSQ. Is this something that's easy enough to do with Duty finder or do I need to pause and look for a regular group?
Duty finder
^ casual content
especially now
Dony touch bad and follow the group
do I need to watch a guide before going in or just Yolo is it okay?
Casual content so just go in
you can probably yolo tbh
awesome, thanks
This
the mechanics are super simple because it was the first alliance raid
should be well telegraphed etc
and if not ppl will explain
just keep an eye on what other ppl are doing, where they're standing etc
roger that. I'll eat some dinner and dive in 🙂
Do we know Droprates for DR? I'm on 17 Runs and haven't seen the Mount or Hair so I am curious
Low enough to make you cry
abysmal
it's truly atrociously low
If it aint 0 or 100% then prepare to cry
you'd probably have better luck farming the gil to buy it lol
pray to the rng gods

make a blood sacrifice to rngesus
Question: For the event going on...the dungeons that provide intinerant moogle rewards, can those be obtained if i'm running roulettes?
I think so?
Yes you will get moogle tomestone from the dungeon if you get it in the roulette
Hello everyone, if im using a glamour plate, will my "look" disappear if i enter a dungeon/raid?
no
oh? then why does it say something about big cities and such
you can only swap them in big cities
is it referring to the ability to change plates?
yes
oo gotcha
you can only apply plates in cities
can't swap in instances or zones with enemies etc
one more thing, if i cast a glamour (without the dresser), the glamour would only work for the set gear piece that i casted it to?
let me change the question, whats the difference between using glamours with and without the dresser
nothing, really
applying glamour directly from your inventory uses up 1 prism each time
for each item
it doesn't take up space in your inventory
plates just let you change a bunch without using prisms
and you cant mass apply glamour like with a plate
thank you all so much!
where should i post my application/cv when im looking for a serious fc to raid with on light/odin?
its much appreciated
will note that not many FCs raid together ^
ok so its for applicants too? and u can raid with the entirety of the light shard regardless of server right?
yes and yes
splendid appreciate the quick reply
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Got something off mog station, I've logged into the game and its not in my moogle delivery service, am I missing something?
takes time.
takes a bit to receive it
sometimes it can take a while for items to be delivered. can hit the button to "request delivery" to try and speed it up
but ultimately just have to be patient
Where is that button?
I usually get mog station stuff within the hour
In the mail
Ah ok, thanks for the help guys
The mail window, its one of the bottoms at the top
can i use blue mage for moogle event?
did you unlock fashion report? its a side quest called "passion for fashion" in the gold saucer
Yes you can
yes but it needs to be synced
how do i get the zodiac glass because it isnt in my key items
hmm, should've gotten it form the quest "mmmm, soulglazed relics". That said, if some reason it didn't give it to you or you somehow threw it out, drake sells it
yeah started that and gotten it soulglazed with it giving me results from dgns but yeah can't see in key items
oh ncm its in normal inv
What's the fastest dungeon to farm Irregular tomestones of Esoterics? (Event tomestones)
blu in aurum vale
if a castrum ended does the next one spawn in 1hr after
yep
if i afk attacking dummies for 20min will bozjan kick me out lol
probably
Hello! I don't know if this is the place to ask but I purchased the standard edition and can't register it to my account. I put the activation code in, hit next, agree to the agreement, and then it just gives me an error code
What am I supposed to do?
what error
i2501
try a different browser
How do I activate my account during the Free Login Campaign?
ok thanks
Hey anyone doing e11 prog
check party finder, won't have luck here as this isn't the recruitment channel
Can someone help me download this game I keep trying everything I read on how to download these files and nothing works I dont know what else to do
What have you tried already?
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deleting the folder it says bought a freaking vpn tried DNS tried it all
I just bought game time and the expansion expecting to play with my friend but I cant even download the game
like I just know what to do
Can i get haunting and vexatious memories while playing another job?
This is going to sound crazy, but have you made sure that Internet Explorer is up to date?
Yay thanks, another question @open coral
Why internet explorer I dont use that
Hey guys I just met a nice Player and would love to send him a pm, or friedlich request, but it doesnt work :(
Is it hard to get these memories from fates??
how good is being a cook in the game?
Where and how do I join a FC??
Because the XIV launcher runs on Internet Explorer. It's stupid, but it's a thing. Also, did you only purchase Shadowbringers, or did you also purchase the Starter Edition?
how does IE help me here?
I bought the game a long time ago like 2 years ago or so
but I came back this time to play for real and not just a month
Yes. The drop rate from FATEs is stupidly low.
Oof
So you already have the base game installed on your PC?
The launcher itself runs on IE
If you have the base game, then definitely check your IE version.
if IE isn't updated it'll have issues downloading stuff
it's, strange and archaic but true
no I just got a new PC a week ago and trying to install things from scratch
but some how its been hours trying to figure shit out yet again
so do I download the client from the website using IE (also doesnt say anything about updating IE where it says so I guess its good?)
No, you don't need to use IE to download the client, you just need to have the most recent version of IE installed on your computer.
Is there a command to display the list of the most important weeklies?
Then you should be able to download the game.
ok so I guess its up to date then sicne nothing changed so what now
Like, here in the Discord? I don't think so.
"!reset"
did they do something PF? it's empty as hell on Primal.
i need help
The reset command is just for timers.
do I have some form of messed up search filter?
with new account
did you download the free trial version on steam
Have you owned the game before? Also it tends to act weird if you have a really old trial account bc iirc waaaaaaaaaaaaay back trial used to be time-based and not level-based
i never owned it before
i couldnt use my previous account
so i changed its email so i could use it on my new account
that doesnt look like the free trial version
wdym
Honestly the IE thing is all I can think of outside of what you'd already tried. You can try going down to #technology-discussion and seeing if anyone there can help. They're generally a little more technically-minded.
it looks like you downloaded the standard launcher
screenshot your mog station
Is there a list which Crafter can desynthesize what? I get the obvious ones like Weaver can desynth clothes but my Goldsmith cant use it on some weapons for example
ok
you have a windows account
do we have a Party finder discord channel?
not a steam account
