gameplay-discussion

[knotty moon]

You can switch freely, as long as you got the Talismans.
Otherwise, yes, you can sell them at your faction, but at a reduced price.

[hexed spoke]

A bug I want in my game kek

[past drift]

Yee

It won't be p15. Its probably post tennocon

[sly matrix]

Ah, sadly still 16 hours till Talisman is ready for my 2ed faction 😄

[dusky socket]

Lol, what strange wizardry is happening here

[minor marlin]

Does the new pirate stuff have any prerequisites? Or no?

[gilded igloo]

i dont think so

just have some very good chest and leg armor

and have a grace and courage builds ready

[minor marlin]

ty

[gilded igloo]

if you haven't, i'd recomend finding the kith of kings and silent rose enclaves for the base prisims they give

[upper osprey]

The new wazzard set is 3 parts per organ and the organs have 3 hours of coooldown, HOLY

[gilded igloo]

lord help me

i've been trying all day today, no new fragments, and im only half way there for the cuirase, the LAST peice i need for the full set

and dont get me started on the talisman

[upper osprey]

the wazzard's?

[gilded igloo]

yes

[upper osprey]

im 2/3 on the talisman in like 3 months* haha

[gilded igloo]

because the hat, leggins, and chest peice are ALL divided between the 3 organs respectively

[upper osprey]

yeah...

[gilded igloo]

but hey, after that, i wont need to grind for new armor and weapon peices anymore

i got the last 2 weapons (including the legendary gathannan) being made right now for my codex entries

(minus the other founder pack items)

[upper osprey]

uhhh... you have the cucurbita masks?

[gilded igloo]

nope

and not the wintertide either

[upper osprey]

you didnt get the thawtide?

[gilded igloo]

only joined in feb i think

[upper osprey]

Ooooh i get it, welp, thawtide has some really good armors.

[random fiber]

Could someone check if “an invitation” leaves a journal entry in fables upon completion? It is missing for me.

[knotty moon]

It shouldn't, and the note should still be in the overworld at the exit of Garren Shrine.

[warm pendant]

Solid bow gameplay so far.

[knotty moon]

The note you get after An Invitation that points at The Steelsinger should, but at least before P14 it didn't, and this one can't be found later as far as I know.

[pine ridge]

Does anyone know why my whole map is foggy despite having 2 world trees?

[hexed field]

Having a dagger makes a world of difference when using a bow.

Parry, stab stab stab, smite, dead enemy.

[kindred hedge]

new to soulframe going in completly blind is there any non spoiler thing i should know?

[hexed field]

Grab a sword.

[kindred hedge]

got it thank you

[cloud palm]

Quick question

Does "Primary throw bypasses armor" on flyblades mean that only the first throw or just normal throw attacks in general?

[hybrid juniper]

has anyone been dealing with error 2753

game just wont even attempt to download

[half sail]

I believe basic throws, not the charged attack

[graceful plover]

Circade boss cant be smited..?

[dark quartz]

How does Avex compare to juniper? Is it still the best bow ?

[dusky socket]

It can be, but smite sometimes seems to bug out and you just get 0 smite regardless of anything, which I noticed a lot on Circade

[upper osprey]

yay i got a max item count

[knotty moon]

If you consistently get no smites against The Circade you might have to join someone else to get it.

[cosmic estuary]

hey

[crystal bane]

So I chose the staff for my starter and when I got sent to the alcas children enclave I can't do anything with them at all

Am I missing something

[knotty moon]

You should be able to speak with Avakot, after that you can exit and Faction Tales will be available at the World Trees.
As well as the other Fables.

[crystal bane]

The faction tales are they the votives or whatever they are called?

[knotty moon]

Yep.

[crystal bane]

Oh okay

[lone canopy]

Anyone know how to get around the issue where when installing the game it opens a window that wont close

Ive ran in admin and nothing changed

[normal sail]

its asking for an install location

anywhere with adequate space but desktop should suffice

[lone canopy]

nvm got it

[thorny glen]

alright, i just hit past 5000 ode infamy, and now it's back to 0/5000, so what changed?

[dusky socket]

It now shows actual rank tiers, like factions, even though Ode faction isn't in the game just yet. So it "resets" once you reach the next tier, and now you should see "X/20,000" instead of "X/5,000"

Or 10,000 or whatever it is

[thorny glen]

i guess it's lvl 2 and still need 5000

quick question, does the duel with the fancy hat farm only give the armor?

[sudden topaz]

how come im not able to use my ruin ability on pull smites now?

[left wigeon]

Also gives joineries and the sword

Maybe some runes?

[left wigeon]

You mean rune ability?

They changed that to spectral sight + heavy attack

[thorny glen]

isn't the sword the quest reward?

or is there another one?

[left wigeon]

Same one I think in case you sell it or something

That or it's the other one

[thorny glen]

ok, i just got the last part of the armor, so no more things to get from the ghost

i got a rapier shard from the new fort

is that the other rapier?

[crystal bane]

So how can I fight nimrod again I beat him once for the quest but he didn't drop what I'm looking for and I made another cloudquell so how do I trigger the fight again?

[grand island]

i placed my paragon flower right next to my friend's flower

[sudden topaz]

how come im not gaining anything for my weilding rune abilites then?

[grand island]

stragiht epam

peam

[left wigeon]

Wha

[grand island]

what

[left wigeon]

You mean the buff?

Most of them got changed from a temporary buff to just one big attack

[bleak pine]

is anyone else having trouble with these pulley ropes they never take me to the top

[left wigeon]

You can find him southeast from one of the organs, i think the south most one but that one mightve moved

[sudden topaz]

the orlick mission "weild a rune in battle" non of my smited heavy attacks are counting towards it?

[normal sail]

yeah he only gets teased with the ending of the Tormented Stag, and Verminia's quest
you can find him as Discharged Nimrod (world boss) with what Vez said, or wait until a giant ship comes out of the sky and complete the "Hark, The Collector" world event that has you square off with Nimrod

[lavish heath]

guys each one of the organ gives a piece of wazzard right

[thorny glen]

yea, north, middle, south give helm, chest, and legs respectively

[cloud palm]

Oh, so not just the first throw of a volley, good

Phrasing in this game can be tricky

Like that totem that gives additional damage on dodge attacks

When it should be worried "spectre strikes"

Oh that reminds me, is blocked with staffs and staves any useful? Like, I rarely encounter magic projectiles on enemies

[left wigeon]

Would it be a bad idea to put thrice blessed by sapphene on odiac?

My main build is primarily grace and spirit

Though for some reason no matter what joinery I put on it the damage only goes up by like 1

Except for the ones that don't work and the courage ones

[kind narwhal]

do i have to smite an enemy 5 times in order to get him to show up in my journal

[left wigeon]

Nvm figured it out

[graceful plover]

where can i find Sinecure Gruulseeker?

[thorny glen]

those are partoling with one dog

they seek you

the gruul

[graceful plover]

no specific location?

[thorny glen]

on roads usually

[graceful plover]

oh ty!

[thorny glen]

but otherwise nop

[hollow fern]

do you have to go nighfold every time to spend pact points?

[regal shadow]

Yes

You don't have to spend them as soon as you get them, get a few levels, then to nightfold

[sterile lantern]

Heya, having some trouble with a bug for the circade stuff and curious if anyone has a workaround. I have all three amulets, have killed the guy 3 times and I only have 2 fragment afterwards. the guy won't spawn anymore no matter which amulet I have. I've tried restarting and have been doing cycles of switching the amulets over the course of a 3 in game days. anyone know how to fix it?

[wind ether]

ooh man , one of my friends has same issue , tried a workaround ddnt work out , no help nothing , he cannot get that talisman anymore its sad

the game thinks you have all 3 frags so the ghost wnt spawn anymore . you can try clearing cache and retry ddnt work for my friend though.

he even put it up in the bug tacking .

[hexed spoke]

has anyone confirmed if bestitching bugs the pensive armors ability to find the motes in the new ruins?

because i really dislike how the set looks kek

[half talon]

Possibly also join up with another envoy for the talisman you need as well.

[half talon]

You don’t need to wear the armor apparently.

[hexed spoke]

is it confirmed? because i heard the first mote was guaranteed regardless and i only ever got that one. im just starting to do runs with the set equipped

[half talon]

I have not personally tested but I did hear from a player I do trust that they were able to with their mestra outfit.

[zinc crest]

Same. I only have 1 fragment. I have tried getting him to respawn for more than a month with no luck. I verified my files, killed the ghost in front of the paintings many times. Does anyone know anything that could help?

[half talon]

For those with the circade issue, please reach out to support.soulframe.com so the team can do a deeper dive and get it fixed for you.

[sterile lantern]

I'm also unsure which one I would need since it originally spawned for all 3

[hexed spoke]

if its not the first mote then that sounds good. but i did a few runs with the new set before and only ever got the first one.

oh well thanks for sharing. i feel like i should wait till more info comes up.

I wish i didnt mind how that pensive set looked

[half talon]

If you look at the triune fragments they will have a sliver of red blue or green. Whatever color you’re missing essentially.

[versed hemlock]

Hi I get fragments of items, I’m assuming I need the same amount of fragments as there are crosses on the item ?

How do I craft them ?

[half talon]

Not my favorite set either. Can never look at orlick the same. I spent years not thinking about his midriff.

[half talon]

Follow orlick’s quests. He will guide you to the blacksmith.

[hexed spoke]

till today, i really had no reason to look at him.

not fond of that fashion rofl

[versed hemlock]

Ok thank you, thought I missed a mechanic but couldn’t find anything

[half talon]

Maybe before p14 but they made it easier for oncoming players.

[sterile lantern]

Its showing all 3 i think

[hexed spoke]

wears more cloth around the neck then proceeds to flash his midriff.
logi from a scholar right there.

I guess little genius isnt omnipotent

[half talon]

Oh. If you have the talisman he won’t spawn. You get triune fragments from him spawning.

[versed hemlock]

Cool, I’ll keep going tyty

[bleak hawk]

I think he spawns once for each fragment and specific times of the day

[half talon]

The talisman is the completed thing. He won’t spawn anymore.

[sterile lantern]

that's just the 2 triune fragments then I have the 3 amulets as well

[half talon]

Ooooh oh see this is why I need to sleep. I thought you were in your inventory…

Hmmm… I guess I was thinking fragments and the pendants.

Yeah I’d reach out to support on the issue.

I need to go to sleep. Yall stay sharper than my brain!

[bleak hawk]

Rest well!

[kind narwhal]

nothing is activating here

is there suppost to be a song or something i play

[zinc aspen]

find the tree

[hard path]

Hey, will the palettes from the founders pack be rereleased?

I'm considering buying the Paragon pack, but if the dyes get rereleased, that'd be a bummer for me.

[regal shadow]

if you're on waste bear fable, you need to find a few other trees with sap, birb should lead you to them, if you're not on that quest, ignore it for now

[dim prism]

What did they say abt fast travel last dev?

Anything improtnant?

[hollow fern]

How do you swap pacts?

[wraith badge]

I was at the top of an Ode'n Organ after destroying it, waiting for the animation to play/finish and as it started, three Ode soldiers awkwardly just walked in the door and stared at me.

"Ugh... Fellas, I can explain."

[amber tendon]

"As of Preludes 14 this weapon requires two fragments, making it impossible to be crafted, this is presumed to be a bug.
" is this still a bug for duhk halic? Dont want to try to unlock it and bug it forever

[lyric leaf]

LOL

[regal shadow]

some pacts come from fables (quests), others from factions, ALL pacts need to be crafted at the blacksmith tho, you're basically getting just blueprints for them, and your blacksmith has to be level 3

[hollow fern]

Aye thnx

[rapid frost]

is there a max Attunement?

I reforged my Navalha with a Thrice Blessed by Saphene, and i thought if the glowing attunement mark meant 5 marks I should have 6 marks in total but its only showing the single glowing mark.

[wraith badge]

You mean the icons that display on a weapon?
A max of 5 of any given Virtue, when you hit 5 it changes down to 1 but with a golden trim.
I don't think there's a way to buff multiple attunements at once but I presume every weapon can (in theory) get all three maxed at 5.

[neon spruce]

am i unable to join other factions and remain with my starting one?

[rapid frost]

so can i reforge a weapon more then once without deleting the prior?

[wraith badge]

No it will, sorry. I was meaning it's possible in the future DE might allow a weapon to max out (multiple) at 5 one day.

[regal shadow]

only can be in one faction at a time, but when you switch, you dont lose progress with others

[neon spruce]

so switching is just a way to access the shop and be able to do its Sparrow tales?

[regal shadow]

basically, ye, a lot of faction shop stuff is shared but there are faction exclusive stuff too

[carmine cypress]

hm, Is foes codex works good? yesretday i go sleep it was 30/65 .... now 25/65 🙁

[wet tulip]

make sure to relog after a codex gain

sometimes when you relog it counts only 1 smite pull per foe

so for example if you did all 3 smite pulls on 1 specific foe and relog it might count only the first

[carmine cypress]

ah...i see, thanx!

[kind narwhal]

Just beat the bear fight

[buoyant lily]

I guess Alpha Progress doesn't carry on to release, right?

[kind narwhal]

Idk

Are u an alpha tester

[grand spindle]

so does blessed joinery +pip only means it reaches weapon max with lesser virtue points? it doesnt give more damage per se, as I put +1 on Navalha, attack remained same

[smoky crater]

It will

[smoky crater]

Correct

With more attunement pips you need less virtue points to get to the weapons attunement cap, but said cap is the same no matter what joinery you use on it

[hollow fern]

How do I use a rune? I have it equipped and am doing hold Q + heavy attack but no luck

[smoky crater]

you need to charge it by smiting enemies

[hollow fern]

I do

just cant use

[smoky crater]

[buoyant lily]

Really? Wild. Thanks for the info.

[hollow fern]

Have the red bar under

[wind ether]

one of my friends got 15+ runes from chests and money boxes within 2 hours ......i got close to 5 XD what an awesome kinda rng

[crystal garden]

am i thinking wrong about bows that after changes in latest patches the junniper aint best bow anymore and its again starling?

[dim aspen]

hey guys, noob question: how to you parry/block on each character?

[smoky crater]

same for all. block right before the attack

[iron falcon]

We really need a pinned text of a summarized version of how virtues/damage work with joineries, because I keep forgetting how it works and it isn't explained anywhere ingame XD.

[smoky crater]

more attunement pips = less virtue points required to reach the same amount of damage

attunement pips cap out at 5 individually aswell

shrimple really

[remote leaf]

suddenly started having this problem with the game's lighting; shadow areas are completely dark. Does anyone know how to help me with this?

[iron falcon]

I am now even more confused

[smoky crater]

wut

how

ok. very much not real math but lets say you have 80 damage on your weapon, with 20 virtue points. and the weapon has 2 attunement pips on it.
if you had 2 more attunement pips on it with a joinery, you could reach the same 80 damage with only 15 virtue points.

pure example not actual math

[amber tendon]

"As of Preludes 14 this weapon requires two fragments, making it impossible to be crafted, this is presumed to be a bug.
" is this still a bug for duhk halic? Dont want to try to unlock it and bug it forever

[smoky crater]

bug yes

[crystal garden]

Anyone know dmg for joineried maestro? After latest patches starling seems to be better than Junniper, which wast a case pre patch

[smoky crater]

maestro's max is 151

the single blessed joineries still add the +25 right...? ._.

[crystal garden]

highly doubt, atm lvl 13

[smoky crater]

so if it's 151 without the +25...

then it'd have 176 with it

[crystal garden]

its not givin +25 anymore

[smoky crater]

they should be

just as part of the leveling up process now instead of instantly +25

[wraith badge]

And for his forward special, the Envoy uses a gun!

[barren flower]

Any recommended website with builds?

[balmy hinge]

To use runes I need to fill that bar belowe my green skill right?

[dusky socket]

Correct

Currently your rune is not upgraded so you only have one "charge". You'll see the other three parts of the circle turn black once you've upgraded the rune 3x, and then you'll be able to store 4 charges with that rune

[balmy hinge]

And to fill that bar I need souls, but one every 6 enemies drops souls, the bar gets yellow, I use the heavy attack while holding Q, bue the mission A grand fable does not get completed

Maybe I need to upgrade the rune?

[dusky socket]

Yup, you're doing it right. I believe you need to use a rune in battle a number of times before the mission completes. Can't remember if it was 5x or more.

[lavish heath]

can someone breif me up about joineries

[balmy hinge]

Damn you were right, I just used it again and it got completed, sucks that the don't specify that in the quest journal

[balmy hinge]

Ty!!!

[lavish heath]

i threw a twice blessed in here idk what it did

[dusky socket]

It's supposed to be a pop up on the left side of screen, but it's bugged and doesn't show sometimes. You can assume for the rest of the little Orlick quests when it says do X, you may need to do it multiple times, specifically if it's like "collect" or "kill" or "charm"

[balmy hinge]

Alright, ty for the tip!

[dusky socket]

Currently some weapons are bugged and don't show the additional attunement pips after putting a joinery on them, specifically magick weapons when using Iridis joinery. As far as I can tell the damage still calculates. But normally you'd see the extra pips for that virtue, and if you get to 5 of one color it consolidates them into a single icon with a gold border

[lavish heath]

my question what do the pips mean, and what shouldve acutally happened here , should i have gotten 5 pips on it afeter applyig that one

[upbeat cradle]

the pips dictate how much a weapon benefitiates from the attunement

like if you have 23 spirit and a weapon with 5 pips of spirit, it will have more damage than a weapon with 3 pips of spirit

[dusky socket]

The basic answer is that each "pip" adds 0.5 dmg for each point of that virtue that you have. So if you have 2 pips and 10 of that virtue, you'd gain +5 dmg.

Grace is a little different and adds extra dmg per pip IF the weapon originally has at least 1 Grace pip on it, before putting a joinery on it. If it does, then it will add roughly 0.8 dmg per pip, otherwise it's just the standard 0.5.

[lavish heath]

oooh sounds fun

[dire python]

contemplating what weapons I should go for first, I could get Juniper from the map or precklies/thistle/gwylen

[waxen flower]

Keep in mind there's a cap

[lavish heath]

im also trying to get seathorn atm would htat be better

than erstroot

[waxen flower]

So more pips ==> you reach cap faster

[lavish heath]

is that bad?

[waxen flower]

For staff I think the best one is the new one that drops from mimyfur

[lavish heath]

therse a staff fin mrirfur?????

[waxen flower]

It's good, you can "spend" your other points in other virtues

[waxen flower]

Yep

[upbeat cradle]

it's good honestly, if you're into minmaxxing then you can get to the required amount to max the damage on the weapon and then focus on other stats

[upbeat cradle]

the siege on mirifuir, yes

[dusky socket]

You can use any of the staves, really. Just not the starter one

The dmg difference is fairly minimal

[waxen flower]

Indeed, but I love the new attack pattern

[lavish heath]

whats the name

[upbeat cradle]

yeah, and depends on what virtues are you focusing on

[upbeat cradle]

silistavf

[lavish heath]

how hard to get btw

im oschelda and mainly spirit

[upbeat cradle]

if you're starting... pretty hard

[waxen flower]

Easy, just group up and get S tier

[lavish heath]

i can try no?

[dusky socket]

Well, don't lead them astray lol. It's part of a drop table so, you could get lucky, or you could get unlucky and need to run it dozens of times

[upbeat cradle]

sure you can

[lavish heath]

ah yeah , i got espadarte in 2 runs

i was just tagging along with someone

[waxen flower]

You can, go in recruitment chat and ask/look for people needing S tier completions

You have a 50/50 between silistavf and blitzel

S tier means not dying and clearing all the enemies

[lavish heath]

ouhhhhh

[waxen flower]

Just be safe and don't die

[glacial current]

its easier in group so

[upbeat cradle]

most of the enemies, you can leave some and still get S

[dusky socket]

They updated the rewards for Mirifuir in patch 3, fyi:

"The Siege of Mirifuir
All ranks: Silistavf, Dewelion, Espadarte, Archstorm"

So, again, you could go a little dry

[lavish heath]

water is all i need

[waxen flower]

But isn't more weighted towards higher tiers for weapon drops?

[dusky socket]

I've run it a dozen times since patch 3, and so far I've gotten 9 Dewelion, 1 archstorm and 2 Espadarte lol

[upbeat cradle]

The Siege of Mirifuir
All ranks: Silistavf, Dewelion, Espadarte, Archstorm
As part of our ongoing review of Siege rewards, equipment earned from a Siege should now better support progression while making completion rewards feel more fairly distributed. Stronger performances in Sieges are more likely to award higher-rarity equipment or rarer resources in greater quantities. These changes are intended to help Envoys feel tangibly stronger, while ensuring each reward remains attainable regardless of performance. Thank you for your patience this week as we continue iterating to find the best feeling for Sieges!

yes

[waxen flower]

Ahh nice then

[glacial current]

im glad i farmed both weapons before they changed the drops xD

[upbeat cradle]

fr fr

[waxen flower]

And you can get espadarte from the duelo right?

[dusky socket]

Correct

[upbeat cradle]

yes

[waxen flower]

Yeah I think it's better this way

Still have to farm it

[dusky socket]

Dewelion no longer a myth for most people XD

[waxen flower]

I've been levelling lyke wake but damn the whole s&s weapons need a rework

[waxen flower]

Frfr

[dusky socket]

I actually love Lyke-Wake, it's the snappiest weapon out there, with a constant interrupt/stagger as part of the combo and really fast double taps with the sprinting shield bash

[waxen flower]

It's the same as other shields no?

[hard path]

Are moonsteal threads easy to get?

[dusky socket]

Similar but slightly different, and the slight differences feel huge in combat.

[waxen flower]

Mmmm

[waxen flower]

No way of obtaining them in game (besides using the premium currency)

[hard path]

damn. so should I just hold them until the game releases?

[dusky socket]

That's more a personal decision of whether you want to be able to transmog your gear now, or not. I'm sure at some point they'll give out free Moonsteel, add ways to get it in-game, or allow it to be traded, but that's probably far off closer to release, and of course we're going to be getting more and more armor as time goes on, and Moonsteel can't be refunded/swapped after it's used.

[livid cobalt]

Is this.. normal? 😄

Its fine I can't pass.. but the poor soul?

[dusky socket]

Well, yes, but normally you interact with him once and his soul merges with yours and you get his sword for a short time. Right now it's bugged and it does nothing lol, and his pathing is super wonky lol. (They really need to finish that puzzle he's trying to get into lol, I've spent way too much time trying to figure it out only to learn it's "unfinished" XD)

Fun fact, if you don't have a rune slotted on your weapon and you interact with him, you get a prize........and more than once.....

[livid cobalt]

Good to know! I was thinking about a puzzle like crypt or something. thanks!

[fallow arch]

mestra helm makes it glow like the blue ribbon does but I cant access it

[balmy hinge]

I just need to keep charming squirrels until the second objective completes, right?

[hexed field]

For the "pull spears from blighted world trees" quest step, are there any indicators at all or is it just 'good luck, lol'. Also, if I'm gonna spoiler myself and do them all at once should I wait to do them all or nah? Need to get this map revealed, mostly so I can see through the FOW better.

[dusky socket]

It'll appear regardless of what armor you have, but you have to have the Duelo Ribbon equipped to interact

[vestal egret]

Has anyone visited the Discharged Nimrod in Koga? Does it spawn for you? I haven't seen it at all. I've already relogged and approached it from a different point on the map, but it still doesn't appear.

[dusky socket]

You can complete both at the same time, just need to charm a number of animals, and also charm a number of squirrels to complete the entry. Currently there's a lot of bugs with it counting/not counting, so if it's giving you trouble, try going in/out of Nightfold, or at worst, relogging after each charm to make sure it updates

[balmy hinge]

Alright, ty

[dusky socket]

Basically just have to run around and find the trees. Look for large white trees with lots of twisting branches and no leaves, will look distinct from the rest around it, often times they're kind of isolated. Can use hills/cliffs to get a better view of the area. They're not centrally located to each zone, so sometimes have to run to the edges.

And opening the whole map is a good idea. You'll also need to collect Motes for each POI, so if you're going to run the map, good practice to make sure you collect those as you go, too

[hexed field]

I still don't know what those are. I thought those were the things hovering around enemies when you smite, but that's different. What would you call those instead?

Gave out some codes and finally have a party, so I'm not soloing combat encounters any more and getting turbomogged.

It's a little more fun now.

I also have more weapons to work with.

[dusky socket]

They're little glowing yellow orbs with sparkly fx around them. Can spawn 1-2 per POI, per login. Sometimes they spawn in weird locations, in buildings, in lanterns, or farther away from the POI than you'd think. Once you find all of them for that location, the icon on the map will fill out instead of being black, and you gain a large amount of player experience (MR)

[fallow arch]

like I get wearing the talismans for the first time you access a faction

[hexed field]

Is that why some of (most of) my map locations are in moonrunes instead of English?😂

[dusky socket]

Exactly. You gain some letters for each Mote you find

[hexed field]

Wow. Alrighty then. Things to do, people to spear with a poleaxe, that sort of thing. Gonna spoil the map I think, 'cause the locations I've discovered will be marked for mote hunting on it anyways.

[fallow arch]

at least supposedly only rovgot needs the pensive set

for motes

[hexed field]

Pensive... armor? Heard of that, haven't encountered it yet aside from there's I think a floppy hat or something...

[little parrot]

You can get it through Orlick's progression.

[dusky socket]

Can confirm you don't need the pensive set for Rovgot, but appears to be easier to find its motes with it? Who knows lol

[hexed field]

Same way ya get the hat.

[little parrot]

Ye

[fallow arch]

supposedly

[hexed field]

Motes are only visible with soulsight? Seems like I woulda noticed em without it but I can be freaking blind sometimes...

[fallow arch]

revealed via soul sight

[hexed field]

Knew it. Never that easy.

[dusky socket]

No, you can see them without it, you just have to use spectral sight to claim them

[hexed field]

Might also be why I passed 'em by. No interact prompt means I can't touch it.

[dusky socket]

They're instantly revealed the moment the POI name pops up, and you can see if 1-2 are available because the little black "pips" above the name will have 1-2 floating quotation mark thingies

[hexed field]

I've noticed diamonds immediately below some of these names that intuitively remind me of 'alert level' for some reason.

[fallow arch]

real question is, is it just the cloak or the full armor set?

[dusky socket]

For?

[hexed field]

Pensive probs.

[finite stone]

#gameplay-discussion message

[hexed field]

Was last armor being discussed.

[spare badge]

I've been wearing the set and never seen any motes there.

[fallow arch]

I cant get them to spawn with or without

[hexed field]

Motes will glow like most collectibles with soulsight do, no?

[spare badge]

I don't think they're in the game yet.

[dusky socket]

Oh, I mean, based on how the rest of the game works, I feel pretty confident in assuming that it actually has nothing to do with motes, and the reason they're so "rare" is because Rovgot is currently just a preview of the dungeon. Once we have the full thing, won't be an issue.

The flavor text for Pensives seems more like there's additional lore and/or puzzles that we'll have in Rovgot that can't be seen without the armor.

[fallow arch]

they are

I've gotten some, but now it just wont give me anymore of them

ran it so many times I can build 3 extra cenotaphs and lyke-wakes

but maybe last hotfix fixed that?

[dusky socket]

Didn't see anything mentioned. Again, we were informed it's just a preview, so it's probably spawning motes in places you can't access.

[spare badge]

They glow even without. Just make sure you have the effects in Accessability turned to 200%.

[fallow arch]

also funny you can run it backwards

boss first and all enemies spawn behind you at level 1 or 2

dont recommend

[hexed field]

effects in accessibility turned to 200%
LMAO
Nah, don't think I will. Lightning effects already blot out my screen a moment when enemies get smited by God at low health for some reason. I don't want to flashbang myself too hard. Thanks for the tip tho!

[spare badge]

With as many people as have been running the dungeon as much, it seems like motes existign there is just a rumor.

[dusky socket]

You can still see em with standard settings, they're just a bit less visible, especially during the day

[dusky socket]

Nah, I've found a couple lol while farming for Lyke before the hotfixes, so like, 100s of runs. Just not finished yet 🤷‍♂️

[fallow arch]

this qualifies

[hexed field]

-# <Coffee consumed.> Rise, Tarnished, and grind.

That blue bit?

That's the mote?

[spare badge]

No. The blue bit is from the paragaon amulet.

[fallow arch]

ah ye running it backwards results in voicelines not working if at all and sparrow wont lead you anywhere

thats the neat part, theres no mote there but would you see it if there was?

[novel ivy]

Motes are gold

[balmy hinge]

Damn, quests are really bugged right now, just got this one, Haven't even found the npc and out of nowhere the two bottom objectives got completed lol

[spare badge]

Yes. This is what motes look like. #gameplay-discussion message

[balmy hinge]

I found this world tree already but the fow suddenly came back as well

[hexed field]

Also, I've heard whispers that fast traveling consumes a seed of some sort?

was able to do so twice at no obvious detriment to myself

[novel ivy]

This is a bug that happens when you alt tab. Relogging fixes it

[spare badge]

Did you take the fork out of it?

[sly escarp]

Consumes a seed from the Wevet Sapling unlocked after the Waste Bear

[fallow arch]

ye you tell that to the god rays

[knotty moon]

Motes are real. (9 total)
Current theory is that the Pensive set makes the spawn more common.
Also they have a signiicant time delay, I suggest fully clearing the dungeon of enemies, then backtrack from the Wyrm spamming Pull Smite, they should spawn in the main rooms where Wazzard speaks.

[hexed field]

voicing seeds. dunno how to get more of those so, alright then, I'm hoofin' it. Last time I went to the wevet tree there was and angry treeant lookin leafy boi there with lots of health.

[spare badge]

What does spamming grace ability do?

[sly escarp]

Look to the left of Verminia's island in the Nightfold

[dusky socket]

It's the tree to the left of Verminia in Nightfold

[knotty moon]

Er, that should be the Pull Smite combo.
I meant spam the absorb mote action.

[spare badge]

I play on controller B= light attack. Soul mode + B = Grace ability. Smite = left bumper + right bumper.

[fallow arch]

fun fact

[knotty moon]

Uh, I have potentialy been misleading controller players all along.

[novel ivy]

Right bumper should be light attack by default

[fallow arch]

clients have a better chance of finding motes

thats just in general

[novel ivy]

But yes left bumper plus b equals grace ability

[sly escarp]

Aren't those the same action?

[spare badge]

Default is wonky. I rebound it to be more in lign with other games.

[sly escarp]

Oh

[knotty moon]

Pull Smite can be rebinded.

[spare badge]

My setup

[novel ivy]

It is in line with shooters. So I understand the rebinding if you don't play shooters

[sly escarp]

No, like, collect mote and pull smite

Aren't those the same action in game?

[knotty moon]

Yes.

[spare badge]

You smite motes to collect them.

[sly escarp]

Exactly!

[spare badge]

Just like you smite animals to charm them.

And you smite enemies to smite them.

[novel ivy]

It's also not that they rebound smite ability cuz that's still default. They just rebound light attack which was causing confusion

Cuz by default smite is light attack

[fallow arch]

so if anyone wants to trade motes

well share mote however that works

[spare badge]

IIRC motes don't spawn for everyone, don't spawn the same if they do spawn.

[fallow arch]

ye but they do spawn more for clients

[novel ivy]

They do not, but if a party member is missing a mote and you pull it they will get the missing letter. At least I've had that happen

[fallow arch]

I remember I did so with a friend where a town wasnt spawning any for him or me but I got them just fine while joining his squad, so we switched host/client and he got his

[spare badge]

And what if there's no missing letters that ever showed up?

[novel ivy]

If you're client side you can collect previously collected motes if the host doesn't have it and they get the letter, even if you have town name

[fallow arch]

put the motes in the bag

[novel ivy]

Ive had this happen

[knotty moon]

DE: "We made the bosses tankier so they can't be trivialized with Runes"

[spare badge]

That's what had me thinking there's no motes. Not having the garbled name with diamonds ever showing up.

[spare badge]

Along with never running into a mote.

[balmy hinge]

Will there be a wipe in progression before the official release?

[knotty moon]

No.

[fallow arch]

no the final wipe was ages ago

[spare badge]

DE Said no more wipes after the P7 wipe.

[novel ivy]

Like I get why some people might want that, but others don't want to lose hundreds or thousands of hours if they've been playing since p7

[knotty moon]

They do plan for optional wipes.

[novel ivy]

Which is nice for those that want it

[hexed field]

I'm triggering my cloaking (LT->B)while spamming to smite (LT->RT), so i still need to retrain my smite combo, but after rebinding primary attack and block away from default on xbox controllers the controls feel a lot more intuitive and smooth. The dagger being less effective against armor is not so great but understandable, hopefully that'll get better as it ranks up. as it is enemies with higher than ~15 or so are completely unaffected by it, and by that I mean their health indicator greys out when I draw it lmao.

"oh, that toothpick? yeah that's not going through my armor, kid"

[novel ivy]

I mean you still do damage it's just negligible

[hexed field]

If I don't see big chunks of health gone i'm not doing damage, there are no moderate swings that i'm aware of so far.

[knotty moon]

In those cases Heavy Attacks might break through the armor.
Or Armor strip/bypass Totems.

[novel ivy]

Abilities help and this is also why you can use two weapons. One should have damage output needed

[hexed field]

when it's greyed out with an X instead of a number lol?

[novel ivy]

Turn damage numbers on you'll see that you're actually doing damage

And yes. Heavy attacks ignore armor

[knotty moon]

Yes, that means "too much armor for your current method of attack".
If you are borderline heavy attack might switch to a number, and even if they don't they can still make enough damage to make the fight hard, but not impossible.
Kinda a judgment call at that point.

[hexed field]

This is the primary issue new players will face here. they start with one weapon only, which makes that initial choice really matter. This is why i advocate for the sword over the bow I started with, because range is nice but when you have literally just your kicks to back it up you tend to get your feet cut out from under you pretty quickly.

[knotty moon]

Uh?
Thought they simply had a higher base damage.

[fallow arch]

they do not

[novel ivy]

Fair it is higher base my mistake

[knotty moon]

To be fair a Sidearm is given relatively early after Tormented Stag, and that quest is tuned for noob gear.

[spare badge]

Greybar health requires spamming fully charged heavy attacks and using runes.

[novel ivy]

Also none of the three starter pacts have a Dagger as primary. The starting 3 weapons are a Long Sword, Bow, and Staff. Daggers are all side arms

So if you have a Dagger you have two weapons

[spare badge]

The only dagger that exists as a primary is the one from Thawtide.

[hexed field]

Yes but you have to get the helm for the smithy first, then gather materials to make it, then wait for several hours. makes it less accessible early on and more accessible after you've gotten face-rolled a fair few times, IMLE.

[fallow arch]

requires a fully leveled and maybe reforged weapon

[knotty moon]

(Rostrum is Primary)

[hexed field]

It's easy when sytems are explained, less so when unceremoniously dumped into the game world.

[novel ivy]

I forgot about Rostrum but yeah again not a starter weapon

[knotty moon]

Fair.

[spare badge]

Those don't always help. Sometimes, you can have the best weapons fully leveled with the best joinery and attune cap hit, and still see greybar health.

[knotty moon]

Unless you are doing Cogah it really shouldn't happen.

Unless momentary super armor from enemies.

[novel ivy]

Doesn't always require fully leveled weapon. Sometimes your virtues the weapon is aligned with just need to be higher

[spare badge]

Shouldn't. Does.

[hexed field]

Yeah I encounter these guys open world lmao

[knotty moon]

Who?

[hexed field]

south, near the mecha tower in the middle of a clear cut.

[novel ivy]

South isn't even highest level enemies. Highest level enemies are in NE and NW

[spare badge]

Often the V-stag. Every once in a while, a random enemy. Which indicates that it might be a bug.

[knotty moon]

Didn't do many stag, but never had that problem. Will keep an eye on it.

[novel ivy]

If it's at one of the south organs it's likely underdeveloped gear or unattended weapon with your virtues build

[spare badge]

I tend ot hang around the NE swamp around Creedence High. Stag (and now bear) will spawn there at night.

[novel ivy]

Yeah that makes sense

Ive had time where stag there is grey

Ive also had stag be Grey at New Visci, but i was using a newly forged weapon, swapping fixed the one at new visci

[spare badge]

The random enemies though, are ones I've just run across anywhere on the map. Which is why I think it's a bug. Like, level 5 enemies but one of them spawned in with way too much armor.

[novel ivy]

Huh weird

[spare badge]

Pre-alpha growing pains, I guess...

Anyhow... Back to trying to track down the new motes...

[grand spindle]

journal faulty enemy tracking and progress loss drives me nuts 😄 im worried they didnt even mention it in devstream

[knotty moon]

True.

[opal fable]

are the verite thrice blessed called twice blessed?

[spare badge]

Ah. I discovered the trick. I just had to doubt that they existed and one showed up.

[hexed field]

Ain't that how it usually works?

[sudden topaz]

is mestra actually in the night fold yet said i have access but i dont see her

[spare badge]

No.

[viral flume]

I apologize in advance, I use a translator, is it possible or impossible to play the game at the moment?

[smoky crater]

Possible, but you need to either be invited, or redeem a code to get access

[viral flume]

and what will happen after the game's release? Will all the loot disappear?

[smoky crater]

Progress is kept

[spare badge]

No. You can keep everything.

[sudden topaz]

if you dont have a code i could perhaps give you one

[viral flume]

Is it possible to play with friends?

[neat current]

What is the best grace prism?

[knotty moon]

No, ||but you can find her on the boat in the southwest, near Heedoway||.

[spare badge]

Yes. But don't do the Fables in multiplayer. It's very buggy.

[viral flume]

thank your

[knotty moon]

Saphene's Shadow, from Silent Rose.

[viral flume]

I tried to enter the code, but they wrote to me that I already have access, although the account has just been created, is this a bug?

[halcyon thicket]

it's possible that claiming the code from twitch or what have you already automatically activated your account

[knotty moon]

🤷‍♂️
Try to log in and see if you do in fact have access.

[hexed field]

werent you the one that got the email with 4 codes? why you using one of your friend codes to access it lmao? per the email, you were given access.

no idea what currency I just wasted writing a note on the world tree btw, theres no indicators on screen for how much of it I have or even what it is.

[crystal garden]

thats kinda inappropriate, should that be reported to DE tho?

[hexed field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/joker-very--k01KQ2EAD9ADG86RXHW0MAFRT9E

[summer osprey]

I'm feeling a bit dumb but combat has never been a strength of mine... I play using controller and I'm finding it impossible to "wield a rune in battle." I feel like I'm missing something. I have Everflame equipped on Igne Mora, I know how to pull in the spots (smite, from what I can figure out) but am stuck there. I may not know how to heavy attack or something.

[knotty moon]

It isn't really.
But if you really have issues with it drop a comment on it in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345.

[hexed field]

soul sight plus RB if on ecksbawks controller

[summer osprey]

When I activate soul-sight, it kills my ability to use attack...

[hexed field]

means you aint charged if it just does the <hand shake pull smite but no smite to pull thing>

it is tied to light/heavy attack tho, and not a separate binding. which is... unfortunate

[summer osprey]

I'm a button masher, so I'm not certain I've ever actually heavy attacked.

[tardy crater]

Anyone know if Duelos sometimes are just supposed to give no reward?

[hexed field]

-# OMG YOU HAVE TO AIM AT THE ANIMAL TO CHARM THEM THAT EXPLAINS WHY IT WASNT WORKING SOMETIMES

[knotty moon]

What's this supposed to be?
Chicken coop?

[hexed field]

Either that or a house for ants.

[spare badge]

Looks like one of the chicken coops half-buried in the ground.

Maybe it's just a chick coop?

[knotty moon]

Dropped it in https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1440103546900185108 to be safe.

[lethal pasture]

So I've been playing for about a week now, and just unlocked the new staff, any suggestions on what pact I should play around for a good magicka weapon build? Figure the mage starter one is good, but any others to recommend?

[knotty moon]

Just about any Pact can work, depends on what you like as a spell set.
That said Orengall does synergize well with ranged gameplay with the summons.

[dusky socket]

Duelo is also really good with Magick

[fallow arch]

coop ye

[spare badge]

Oscelda is best for magic weapons. Orengall is also good, since most magic weapons are spirit based, and you'll thus have 3-4 spirit wolves out at once.

[fallow arch]

chickens when

[dusky socket]

We need a pet menagerie in Nightfold so we can tame and raise our own little animals, including chickens

[knotty moon]

Chicken Pact. 🐔

[hexed field]

Yeah I woulda never found these trees without the complete map to go off of. Even with the map and an in-game marker close it still took me some searching to find just one (my second). I've very quickly given up looking for motes, those place names can stay moonrunes.

[spare badge]

Mmm.... Chicken... 🍗

[lethal pasture]

Cool, thanks guys 🙂 appreciate the 2 cents

[ruby lintel]

i have 4 keys anyone need

[dusky socket]

Do keep in mind, a majority of your MR is locked behind completing the names for all POIs on the map. You'll get to MR 13 just by doing that, and only to 18 after levelling ALL Pacts and Weapons

[fallow arch]

chicken totems would be aight

[hexed field]

Certified Bruh Moment. Gross.

[spare badge]

Rooster Pact. Roosters can be vicious...

[dusky socket]

This is the way XD

[winged burrow]

not sure were to put this I had a key but lost and want re-install do I need to watch again or what?

[hexed field]

ought be tied to acct, no?

[dusky socket]

The spectral sight character effects is just a giant rooster comb and waddle XD

[knotty moon]

Zelda flashbacks intensifies.

[fallow arch]

also pay attention to this; courage gives the most health, spirit reduces cooldowns and gives the least health, grace gives moderate health per point and increases finisher/stealth damage it also reduces your visibility

[dusky socket]

Keys are sent direct to your Soulframe.com account, and once redeemed the account does not lose Preludes access unless you delete the whole thing though customer support. You're free to reinstall the client, login info will be the same

[dusky socket]

Aka Duelo max spirit build = infinite cannons

[spare badge]

My brother had gennie chickens. The rooster would attack anything that moved. I took to carrying my machete with me when I went over to mow the yard.

[dusky socket]

Breh, you mowin the lawn, or getting dinner? XD

[knotty moon]

Most likely trying to avoid becoming dinner.

[viral flume]

can the character's appearance be changed later?

[knotty moon]

Yes.

[fallow arch]

ye

[spare badge]

Mowing the lawn. Just had to often remind the rooster who's in charge a few times.

[hexed field]

So, upon pulling that spear from my second tree I was graced with another tidbit about a ruler's reign growing dull or something but it's been so long since I pulled the first one I've forgotten what that little story was supposed to be about.

[fallow arch]

wait thats an older screenshot

there we go

[spare badge]

If I was going over to get supper, I would've taken the gun.

[winged burrow]

one more question I get the dl from steam or the website I totally forgot

[hexed field]

alwasy website.

not on steam yet

[winged burrow]

k ty

[knotty moon]

You can listen to the voice lines again in the Journal.
Locations -> World Tree

[hexed field]

That they play on interaction makes me think you're supposed to reveal the map with a quickness, no?

[fallow arch]

oh finally got mestra pants

[spare badge]

It helps.

[knotty moon]

It is certainly helpful, and you get a weapon if you get them all. (careful that this can't be regained without Arcs, so don't sell it)

[dusky socket]

Hmmm.......

[hexed field]

-# 🙂 Sure does.

That looks like alot of enhancement dust to me

[fallow arch]

I'm done with mestra I think

[opal fable]

damn how much did you farm

[knotty moon]

Spammed Pull Smite at Fenn a bit did you?

[dusky socket]

Lol, the aim was 1000 but, got tired after a bit. Now I just need mass delete button XD

[fallow arch]

10 hours reee

[hexed field]

How else do we get that dust btw, charming animals and... that's it?

[dusky socket]

Charm animals, sell runes and totems

[knotty moon]

You can also release animals and runes to get extra (and realistically that's the main way of gaining more).

[hexed field]

aight. fully upgrading alca's breath took pretty much all the spare I had.

[dusky socket]

Actually pretty easy now with the spectral sight upgrades and the auto charms being perfect charms every time

[knotty moon]

Fair.

[dusky socket]

Just get in the habit of charming every animal you see. If it's 3 star and doesn't auto charm, ignore. If it's 4 star and has extra harmony note, charm it. 5 star always charm. If you miss the perfect note on the harmony note, you can just exit and restart charm so you don't lose out on harmony

[hexed field]

<attempts to serenade bambi for the 542nd time in a row>

[grave dock]

hm, how does dodge really work? like, how do you dodge to backstab exactly?

[hexed field]

light attack at indicator on back, typically from some form of cloaked state

[grave dock]

outside of invis

[hexed field]

doesn't really appear in open combat IMLE

[grave dock]

hm

[hexed field]

I've had it happoen a few times but I've always had to cloak first from what i remember

[grave dock]

how would I utilize duelo' dodges...

[hexed field]

I'm still really bad at combat solo. I get ganked really easy.

[grave dock]

its mainly just annoying staggers from being surrounded

[hexed field]

Fighting retreat, mate, fighting retreat.

[dusky socket]

Duelo is unique that dodges can spawn clones which DO allow you to backstab many enemies, but you need to dodge through the enemy, not away from.

[lethal pasture]

Good info! Thanks 🙂 Mayor of Squish Town here I come!

[grave dock]

so dash forward?

[dusky socket]

Yes, and I find I need to do a dodge roll and not just a basic dodge, otherwise I'm not far enough behind them for the finisher icon to pop up

[hexed field]

finishers with the poleaxe are suitably brutal btw, love to see it.

[dusky socket]

Dexell with the perfect vid haha 🙏

[grave dock]

wait, that video is to doge around though, do you go through enemy via the dodge or not

[hexed field]

THat's with duello, i can see the clones pulling the aggro to aloow the backstab

[dusky socket]

Keep in mind the clones can only take one hit, so if there's lots of enemies, or if the enemy was already striking in the direction of the clone, then it negates the effect

[knotty moon]

The boss does, as far as I know you can't.

[grave dock]

that's too baddd

should change it

[knotty moon]

https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224662344761345

[grave dock]

or it would also be cool if you can somewhat lock into an enemy and dodge, which you can automatically dodge in a half circle instead of one direction

[viral flume]

guys, I sent a friend request to a friend, he writes that I'm already friends, but he can't accept it, and I can't delete the request, he says there is no Internet

[fallow arch]

hope they buff wazzards wish

[knotty moon]

Try closing the game and reopening.

[hexed field]

LOL pulled my third spear and got the undercity of dermak voice line from the writer ghost. then I got the mysterious story voiceline

it was at the southernmost tree, for reference

I now have autocharm

[opal fable]

on avex is it better to get more courage or grace?

[patent narwhal]

does anyone have a founding code pls

[dusky socket]

Well depends on your playstyle. Courage = more HP, Grace = more headshot/stealth dmg. Generally bows work better with more Grace because you're going to want to take advantage of headshots, but some people don't play that way 🤷‍♂️

[opal fable]

i just have no clue what it means to have 3 or 5 grace pips with how much extra headshot damage that is

[hexed field]

-# Absolute deluge of Bicameral entries now, woah... there's the progress I've been thirsting after.

[dusky socket]

Also somewhat depends on your Pact, because some Pact skills scale really well with Courage buffing the damage of skill 1, and some don't

[dusky socket]

It's a bit of math lol, but basically 10 Grace = bonus 0.1 to base 2x headshot multiplier, and bonus 0.2 to base 1x stealth multiplier. But the multipliers stack, so a headshot against an unaware enemy becomes significantly stronger because it's dmg x stealth multiplier x headshot multiplier. So even though 0.1 seems like not a lot, it is actually a massive boost in dmg

[opal fable]

ah, so that can be pretty good

[dusky socket]

So if you have 25 Grace your stealth headshots will deal like 650% dmg

[opal fable]

i think im just gonna put thrice courage on avex, i don't have a ton of grace on this build

[dusky socket]

And that's fair because low grace won't change much for the multipliers anyways

Also means you'll be half as squishy, lol

[regal stone]

do the sellable items count towards daily rep cap?

[dusky socket]

They do not

[soft saddle]

did they completely remove duration based runes and now everything it just 1 attack?

[dusky socket]

Stealth rune still duration based, just significantly reduced. Otherwise it's all single attacks.

[soft saddle]

Oh I don't like that at all

[spare badge]

The shield laser is still duration-based.

[dusky socket]

Oh, that one too

[soft saddle]

In game chat has also told me Treefell is duration based

[dusky socket]

Forgot about that one cuz it's so trash now. Like...wdym I'm forced to just stand here holding block for 8 seconds straight?

Treefell too, you right

Refreshes on kills

[spare badge]

Eh. Go play ESO. Sounds like using the Arcanist magic laser ability.

[ripe bone]

treefell is cool and all, but everbonk is still bae

[dusky socket]

Breh, I stopped playing ESO right before they dropped Arcanist, went back to try it out, and was instantly annoyed lol

[soft saddle]

Been loving ESOs dragonknight changes

[dusky socket]

PvP was just a million people laser beaming each other

[spare badge]

Don't bother with PvP.

[soft saddle]

Oh man voltaic rune on fly blades is so bad compared to pix rune now same with mistgale and forburn on longsword

[dusky socket]

It was good years ago, still my favorite PvP of any game I've played. But it quickly turned into these goofy broken unkillable builds.

[spare badge]

Did they fix pix not seeking enemies?

[soft saddle]

I used it and all of them nuked a guy

[dusky socket]

Mistgale ain't bad, but it's like Treefell vs Everflame: one nukes bosses, one clears adds

[spare badge]

I switched off of it because it was just firing them into the air and they weren't seeking anyone.

[halcyon thicket]

Yeah picktrix is strong right now

[spare badge]

I'm ranking up the red flyblades, so I'll swap back and see if it's actually fixed, or if mine is just weirdly bugged.

[knotty moon]

The things you only appreciate on a replay, the Ode'n Pact arm is shredded at the start.

[dusky socket]

And then...stick figure haha

It's cuz we're vegetarian and don't eat the animals.....

Bro packed a bowl and copped a squat

[soft saddle]

Oh they completing changed mistgale to be a wide piercing slash that's cool

[upper osprey]

bro the wazzard set is a legend the parts are so rare to drop

[dusky socket]

Follows terrain pretty well, too, so now it doesn't just fly over their heads haha

Also, massive amount of stagger

[soft saddle]

and more damage than forburn

[dusky socket]

Forburn is for shields. Everlfame is for longblades

Less damage than Everflame

[hearty jetty]

has anyone figured out where the wevetwood sap spawns in the neath'uns ?

I ran through a bit and couldn't find any

[half talon]

random drops from the neathcaps

[knotty moon]

I think I saw some by destroying the amber thingies, but that was before the patch that actually should have put them in.

[hearty jetty]

thank you

[undone prawn]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[upper osprey]

and another one got caught by the mr beast hack

F

[slate ether]

is there any reason as to why i can't put this thing together?

[upper osprey]

press F

[half talon]

Part of a quest you haven't unlocked yet

[slate ether]

theres no ui or anything

[slate ether]

my guide birds been leading me to it

so i assume it should work?

[upper osprey]

soul sight pull does something?

[slate ether]

nope

[half talon]

Did you fight nimrod twice?

[slate ether]

pretty sure i have

[upper osprey]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[half talon]

Were you ||following a rat, or just bird doing things?||

[lunar lodge]

bicameral biography

where to find

all

[half talon]

What you need to do is ||go back to the tree behind Fort Curlail, read the note by the rat, enter the tree, go out the other side, || then ||rescue rat, fight nimrod twice, then rat should lead you to the stump to open the door|| If that doesn't work, try relogging

[half talon]

They spawn in random places. You may need to leave and come back, or else relog to get more to appear

[lunar lodge]

give me a spot

[upper osprey]

run around the tower, find the motes, pull them, if you dont find just logout, log again and see if there is on a more spotable spot.

[lunar lodge]

oh ok

[upper osprey]

basically where my mouse is. full W

[slate ether]

rat

a big one

rat disappeared going to the offering totem

[half talon]

Do this ^. If you don't read the note, it breaks the quest for whatever reason...

[river elk]

how does your mouse look like that? mine is so small I lose mouse on the screen.

[upper osprey]

zoom in

the will-o-thinggies spawns in random places or near something?

[half talon]

Random but I find them a lot near the college of pensives

If you're trying to get the entry for them, though, we haven't found a method to scan them

[knotty moon]

Random, I got them to spawn somewhat consistently by running up and down the river near Kith of Kings' HQ.

[slate ether]

did it, went back, nimrod spawned on me surprisingly

[upper osprey]

all righty, ty

[river elk]

the fronds mat? They spawn randomly while doing other things.

same I find them when doing kith of kings faction, reminds me that I have to spend my sinculum or sell them or whatever as last session I capped them.

[half talon]

Yes that’s what’s supposed to happen… that fable has been notoriously buggy if the note isn’t read.

[shy lake]

why did my map just.... disappear? im trying to unlock the whole map rn

[wary maple]

Relog king

[shy lake]

ah ok

[wary maple]

Happened to me too 😫

[quasi wolf]

How easy are endless rooms to get? I really need to max out the starter equipment it’s too damn slow and horrible to level up

[shy lake]

i afked into nightfold for a moment, then came back into midrath and my map was messed up lmao

[slate ether]

Little odd its like that. But i'm sure they'll fix it eventually

[shy lake]

map is fixed, ty twin

[upper osprey]

NO WAY

2 months for this amulet, my torment is over.

[raw harness]

Hi

[iron falcon]

I found a lore pip in the new dungeon, but didn't find more, are they rare?

[slate ether]

what exactly are these things? been getting a good few of them

[half talon]

Seem to be. Can’t get my last one to drop to save my life….

[half talon]

Runes for your weapons. You can equip them in the nightfold

[knotty moon]

Runes, that one specifically is for bows (icon on the top left).

[slate ether]

oh i see

[alpine mantle]

What exactly are the differences between weapons that are the same type? Just stat scaling?

[heady shoal]

Hey everyone. When I watch the stream and claim the key what happens next? Do I get an email or something?

[half talon]

Claim it on Soulframe.com under account management and use the code at Soulframe.com/en/promocodes

[iron falcon]

at least there are more than one, I found exactly one in 10-12 runs XD

[shy lake]

how dyou have so many mats???

[past wyvern]

Guys, do you think aliens exist ? 👽

[finite stone]

The ode are offended by this question 😛

[crystal garden]

Any clue what i am supposte to do with that?

nvm found out

[past wyvern]

Can you recommend some science fiction movies I can watch ? 🤔

[knotty moon]

Sad day for my Journal completion drive, confirmed the third Steelsinger note is bugged.

[wet tulip]

there is a theory for those motes

[wet tulip]

full pensive no bestitch (not sure but i think it matters) and relog after every dungeon with a mote ( 1 or 2)

i got 9 motes in 6 dungeons

do note the motes take time to spawn. so its advised to first clear the whole dungeon and boss fight and then go back to the entrance to look for the motes

[lyric leaf]

I can't find the South of Skelfies Glades entrance...

[wet tulip]

had the same problem yesterday it was moved here

[lyric leaf]

thank you thank you

[upper osprey]

another torment, over.

[upper osprey]

this works like a charm

[viral flume]

Is it possible to transfer things to the cooperative?

[mild palm]

I have had the motes spawn while wearing the Mestra armor in the new dungeon. Pensive armor requirement is silly.

[lavish heath]

ok so i wasnt able to get seathorn buttt

[wet tulip]

its not a requirement it simply boosts the chances of mote spawn

[lavish heath]

got the selvistavf from mirifur and few wazzared set parts

[wet tulip]

hence lowering the amount of dungeon runs you need to get all 9 motes

[wet tulip]

credits for belgo

[mild palm]

Silly staff is better stat wise than Seathorn. I just like the look of Seathorn personally. Its the Vetch of Staves.

[neon spruce]

does that rank do anything?

[lavish heath]

i wanna get all staffs anyway RAHHHH, and i need to ask arround for organ shares

[mild palm]

I think Organ only give Avex and Grinn fragments now. Idk what they changed the drop table to and if it still drops wazzard gear.

[wet tulip]

it does drop wazzard armor i got the helm today

guess rng is scrambled

the helm drop was on the NE organ

[lavish heath]

it gives FALX i have liek 13 falx

[knotty moon]

Allows you to craft more things (some have a rank requirement), and unlocks Reforging to put Joineries on weapons.

[neon spruce]

oh, so am fine? i assume rank 3 is the highest or?

[sly escarp]

For now

Lots of the later progression stuff isn't added yet

[worn lance]

Hey i'm new to the game, i was wondering does the fragments for various items work similarily to frame/weapon parts in WF ? I'm still at the beginning but it occured to me that it was weird seeing the rewards for some quests showing items and then only getting one on 2-4 parts ^^'

[mild palm]

Yeah it does

[worn lance]

in which case i guess i can just farm the whole thing again to get the other fragments ?

[sly escarp]

The bosses from quests appear in other locations after

[mild palm]

Crafting is very similar to Warframe in that it takes fragments and other material and long crafting time to get new gear. Or you just use arcs/platinum, which isn't recommended since you need slots.

[sly escarp]

You can finish your farm with them

[worn lance]

Oh okay, tysm for the info ! i'll keep that in mind !

i am at the beginning of the game after all so i know it'll take time before i get to the point where i can craft lots of things

[mild palm]

Like the stag and bear boss spawn in areas at night. Look for gross goopy areas for their spawn during nighttime.

[knotty moon]

One part that it differs from WF is that fragments are universal, no need to get specific parts.

[worn lance]

i just wanted to make sure that it worked that way so i'm not just playing through the game confused lmao

[worn lance]

Good to know !

thanks alot for the clarifications ❤️

[dense raven]

I’m a magick weapon user and I got my defense score to 145. Everything in magick tree and oscelda is set. I really want the hallowing but last time I tried cogah wazzard solo I was around 60 and he one shot me every time. Do I have a chance now or should I still consider going on with two or three party?

[smoky crater]

Should be fine solo

[viral flume]

Is it possible to transfer things to the cooperative?

[smoky crater]

Nnnnope

Trading is not a thing yet

Eventually when it does become a thing tho, i highly doubt we'd be able to trade anything and everything

[languid escarp]

Anyone find the burning sage note within Wyndoun?

[iron falcon]

who are you, Moses? XD

[halcyon thicket]

Notes will be inside the houses

Except for bracken brae where it's on the wall

[languid escarp]

not seeing it, the circle on the map is over at the world tree not the village too

[halcyon thicket]

Ohh

It's right at the tree

Just look on the ground

[languid escarp]

found it (finally) thanks!

[reef arrow]

Please tell me, are all 65 available for collection now?
If so, could you please tell me who might be missing? I checked the dungeons and they don't fit.

[halcyon thicket]

Fable wazzard, spooky ghost face and circade, some banneret, some Mendicant knight

[wet tulip]

circle are the floating ghosts in crytps

[halcyon thicket]

Will o wings aren't scannable

[wet tulip]

yeah out of what you got left 2 cant be scanned yet

[halcyon thicket]

These dungeon motes are pissing me off

[halcyon thicket]

Just one

[reef arrow]

Fable repeat ? ty

[wet tulip]

wdym 1? will o wings and the sinecure axe officer that doesnt spawn

[novel ivy]

Yes you can repeat the fable

[halcyon thicket]

It's a fable banneret

[wet tulip]

which one? orengall?

[halcyon thicket]

Might be

[wet tulip]

i might actually try that

[spare badge]

Same.

[reef arrow]

I collected all the dungeons (everything worked except the spider(((

[halcyon thicket]

I've seen ppl say that

U gotta kill him before orengall eats him or smth

[wet tulip]

one of the weavers is the purple ones the wraith of wastes spawns

[wet tulip]

dont need to kill just smite pull xD

[reef arrow]

TY understand it !

[wet tulip]

which is fairy easy i think

i guess just dont lower the hp too much

[halcyon thicket]

Doesn't orengall kill him the second he leaves the cannon

[wet tulip]

im not sure maybe

[spare badge]

No. He gloats a bit, then she shows up and kills him.

[wet tulip]

i do remember you can land a few hits

so i guess if you dont manage to get a smite pull just relog and try again?

[halcyon thicket]

Oui

[spare badge]

Seems weird that that one would be in the list...

[wet tulip]

try this theory

the more people try this it kinda proves pensive armor boosts the dungeon mote spawn

[halcyon thicket]

I seen it

[wet tulip]

to me it worked like a charm got 9 motes in 6 dungeons

[halcyon thicket]

Is he relogging when he doesn't get a mote?

[wet tulip]

so worth the try

[spare badge]

Relogging puts you all the way back at the wall inland. I've gotten a couplf of motes by not relogging.

[wet tulip]

relog after every dungeon you got a mote ( 1 or 2)

[halcyon thicket]

So if no more just leave and back in

[knotty moon]

It is.
Styne.

[spare badge]

I think that's just a placebo effect.

[wet tulip]

i did some testing xD and when i didnt relog after a mote gain the next dungeons didnt have motes

yet after a relog the dungeons always had motes

[knotty moon]

Yes, you got about half a second to pull it off.

[wet tulip]

do note

the motes in the dungeon got a fairly long timer for them to spawn

so dont speed run the dungeon. first fully clear it and then back track to the entrance looking for the motes

[wet tulip]

yes

[spare badge]

I got a second mote, then ran about 7 more dungeon runs and got a third.

[wet tulip]

and i got all 9 motes after 7 consecutive dungeons ¯_(ツ)_/¯ with dungeon number 3 as a test without relogging

so the relog very well be needed to refresh the mote respawn

like the other mote locations

[spare badge]

Again, that might be placebo effect. You might've just gotten lucky.

[wet tulip]

ah and yes on run 3 0 motes ofc

[wet tulip]

dont you think its way off to be a coincidence to get 9 motes back to back when others dont?

• im not the only one that took less then 10 dungeon entries to get all 9 motes

[knotty moon]

Might be placebo, might be not.
I know I wore the set and relogged every time just in case it wasn't. 😛

[spare badge]

Not really. I've seen some people have insanely good luck in this game. Mine is usually on the opposite end. But I've also witnessed a few instances of personal extreme good luck.

[wet tulip]

how many motes you need rn?

6 more?

how about you try it for yourself

go full pensive without bestitch and relog after a mote gain. prove the theory wrong

[spare badge]

I have. And it didn't get any.

[wet tulip]

did you speed run the dungeons tho? or did you first clear the dungeon and then walked to the entrance looking for the motes?

[reef arrow]

The spider from the swamp mage and the head from the crypt worked – thank you very much, 59/65 left – I'll be back after the fairy tales )))

[spare badge]

No. I tend ot get lost in there, and I'm using it to level up gear, so I'm in there with underpowered weapons.

[knotty moon]

The time delay is the most likely cause of the motes not spawning, that said some people might be bugged.

[spare badge]

I have backtracked.

[wet tulip]

yup theres clearly a delay for the spawn

[spare badge]

The motes I've found have all been when first entering the rooms.

[wet tulip]

idk im pretty sure you were too fast in your runs

[spare badge]

Nope.

[wet tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

im not trying to be rude or anything

but that theory clearly working for some people

that didnt have any luck beforehand

me included

i literally done like 20 dungeons runs before i stumbled upon that theory and 0 motes

then i tried that theory and got all 9 in 7 dungeons?

and all of that after the last hotfix too

[knotty moon]

Do remember that some hosts might be bugged, like the Siges getting perma C rank, or The Circade being unsmitable.

[wet tulip]

this very well be the case too

[spare badge]

Yeah. Part of why we're here is to test things. If there's a possible method of doing something, the more who test that, the better sample size to indicate likelyhood of it happening. I happen to be one of those not having luck with the method.

[dusky socket]

And here I am, 4 motes in 3 dungeons lol

[spare badge]

It took me 100 kills to get Alca's Breath and 115 to get Torrent... The RNG isn't my friend.

[dusky socket]

Unfortunately, the nature of RNG is that it has to be mean to someone XD

[grim coral]

Anybody have tips for defeating Carmo?

[wet tulip]

go full courage with high physical armor

[spare badge]

Don't die. Trick her into shooting the ship instead of you.

[dusky socket]

Either learn Mestra's attack patterns so you know when to dodge/attack, or go full courage build ^^

[grim coral]

Appreciate you guys. I’ve had to suffer through that cutscene 8 times now

[dusky socket]

The more you attack her while she's blocking, the more she's going to do her quick attacks. The more you block here attacks, the more she's going to do long attacks, which you can attack directly after

[grim coral]

The main thing killing me is if I don’t parry her first sword lunge, she lands all of her subsequent quick attacks

So annoying

[spare badge]

Don't be afraid to use the pieces of the ship for cover and heal. Fight dirty.

[wet tulip]

you can always cheese it by climbing on the ropes and throw your weapon xD

unless it got fixed already lol

[warm rover]

I started playing yesterday, is there any reasoning behind history motes being 1 hr cooldown?

I have to keep revisiting areas to progress main quest, if feels weird to have this main quest time gated by mote respawn

[silk lance]

Hello, does anyone have extra code?

[wet tulip]

a relog refresh them

[grim coral]

I beat it lol. Thanks guys

[spare badge]

You can refresh the world by going into and out of a dungeon.

[dusky socket]

6 motes in 4 dungeons.....now I expect the rest to be spread across the next 100 XD

[wet tulip]

https://giphy.com/gifs/trust-the-process-jobs-not-finished-mPKa6OI5oRsmextwBq

[pearl oak]

I am confused on what to do now

I have no other quest beside the get a rune one and not sure where to get one

[spare badge]

Check the wiki?

[verbal zenith]

This may sound stupid, but is anyone else having issues inputting spaces into their arsenal loadout names?

Also, what is the character limit on arsenal names?

[dusky socket]

I have one called "Nakey Nakey Eggs and Bakey" and it took it just fine, so sounds like a bug, probably client side.

[verbal zenith]

hmm...

[spare badge]

I'm taking a moment away from the game. The wonky angles in the new dungeon do a number on my brain after a while.

[knotty moon]

Didn't they remove the ability to do that?

[verbal zenith]

I have older loadouts that have way more characters than what I'm trying to do

[dusky socket]

Possibly they've updated it in recent patches

[verbal zenith]

oh? That's very funny, because alt+032 still works

You can see my issue lol

I may need to find a different word than "mestra" because I am one character shy apparently

[half talon]

Oh? I’m still sad I accidentally renamed my Silly Stupid Random Trash loadout…

[verbal zenith]

All of these loadouts save for the Duelo one were made pre-P14

which is probably why they are as long as they are

[knotty moon]

My bad, was about the lenght, not the spaces.

Fixed a script error caused by loadout names being longer than 14 characters. Loadouts can now only support 14 characters.
https://discord.com/channels/998758139405029478/1438224825113120788

[wet tulip]

and i dont even use loadouts 🤣 . cuz i just swap what i need on the fly lmao xD

[spare badge]

Call it "Duel-Os"?

[verbal zenith]

oops

Sorry, DE

I'll start renaming, I guess

[sad Charlie Brown music]

[halcyon thicket]

No keep one that's above the limit

For the archives

[verbal zenith]

I wonder if it's 14 characters in Warframe... I don't think it is?

or maybe it is, idr

Well, the brute force solution is just the pact names

but I admit I feel a little petty so I think I'll keep the titles I chose

mleh.

Did anyone record the order the pacts come out in?

[dusky socket]

Lol, not Rovgot spawning more Motes than I need to complete the entry

[halcyon thicket]

Can u inv me

I need to steal ur motes

[dusky socket]

Oh it's too late now

[verbal zenith]

Sirin, Oscelda, and Tethren obviously released alongside each other, but then there's Ode Tempest and Mora's Hand and Garren Rood which kinda showed up nebulously before(?) Orengall

[halcyon thicket]

At first it was Fey and Ode Tempest

Then Fey was split into the first 3

[wet tulip]

how many runs total xD?

[halcyon thicket]

If ur still running the dungeon and get motes pls lmk

[dusky socket]

6, no Pensive

[wet tulip]

oo noice

did you relog between the dungeon runs though?

[dusky socket]

Of course

[verbal zenith]

Then Garren, then Orengall..? or did Mora show up between the two

[wet tulip]

i see i see thats good data

[finite stone]

Orengall was P8, and Mora's Hand was P9 (so you were right 😄 )

[verbal zenith]

Ah, thank you

I think I may actually try to put that into the Soulframe wiki if I can

[dusky socket]

I get the sense that certain "tiles" don't currently count as reaching the location, and that's why the motes do/don't spawn randomly, but reaching the boss always triggers a spawn. Cuz 2 out of 5 they were already there, and 3 out of five I have to backtrack

[finite stone]

It's already on their pages (that's where I got them from just now) but maybe 'Pacts in order of release' on https://wiki.avakot.org/Pacts would be cool to have!!

[verbal zenith]

oop, yeah

I don't know much about wiki editing, but I'll seeeee what I can't do..?

[reef arrow]

The spider from the swamp mage and the head from the crypt and circus worked – thank you very much, there are four left – can you tell me where else to look? You mentioned fairy tales – are those fairy tales or memories?

[knotty moon]

That one is Gruul Seeker Sontaro, found in the dungeon north of Oro's Well iirc.

[halcyon thicket]

cogah codename is red night ooo

[dusky socket]

Red night, red moaning........this all just sounds like some underground chinese massage parlor........

[halcyon thicket]

shame

loadout names might be saved server-side

no way to bypass character limit

[reef arrow]

Thanks - I killed him and saw that he really didn't sign up... apparently the progress was rolled back((((

[sly escarp]

Have to smite them to get the Journal to trigger

[knotty moon]

One scan per session should indeed save, though unaugmented by Orlick perks.

[reef arrow]

Have you seen the image? I've found 60/65 right now. We just have bugs as always )))

[compact trout]

Is the Scholar's Charm broken?

[knotty moon]

Is that autocharm?
That one works.

[worn lance]

Hey, me again wondering how mechanics work as i play, and something is really confusing me, the smite mechanic. I have a rune that revolves around it, but i have no idea how to trigger the thing or if i'm even doing it without even realizing it. I tried searching on wikis and such to understand it better, to no avail. could someone explain that to me plz ? (i'm open to dms if that'd flood the chat in some way)

[knotty moon]

This should explain it fairly well: https://wiki.avakot.org/Gameplay#Spectral_Sight_&_Smite

If a bit outdated since the Runes use charges now.

[worn lance]

Thanks ! oh i had no idea it had charges

[compact trout]

Thats the one, got it today and it worked for 1 animal then it stopped...

Have to manually do it like always

[worn lance]

Is the q and a section a good place to ask such things ? i think if i need more help i might just create a thread there or something ?

[visual radish]

It is just a chance

[verbal zenith]

Oh, are they planning on making Wyld Oscelda's headpiece to reflect your character's hair?

[compact trout]

Like a 0.000005% or what?

[remote flicker]

can anyone help me i got access to the game yesterday but whenever i try to run the soulframe.msi to download the game the window just instantly closes itself

[spare badge]

Make sure windows isn't blocking it.

[remote flicker]

confirmed its not blocking it

[spare badge]

Run as admin? Make sure it has controlled folder access?

[frigid pond]

what for are those... ghosts, i guess?

[spare badge]

Fenn's ghost and a smite proc.

[remote flicker]

i had already down loaded it once and it worked fine however i selected the wrong drive so i removed the files to try and reinstall to the correct drive and now my current issue the the download launcher just instantly closing when i try to run the msi

[limpid kettle]

I couldn't find this place. Does anyone know if there's a new location?

[knotty moon]

New Viscii, southeast corrupted area, entrance is in the fallen tower.

[spare badge]

Maybe try a full uninstall/reinstall with a fresh downloaded installer?

[limpid kettle]

Do you have a picture? I'd like to see it.

[knotty moon]

Tried disinstalling from the windows settings?

[remote flicker]

i have tried that same issue the installer instantly closes itself

[spare badge]

I'm not tech savvy enough to have further suggestons.

[limpid kettle]

Thank you for your help.

[thorny glen]

can someone confirm that the duelo can drop the other rapier? i've done close to 30 of them so far, and i've gotten nothing to armor shards so far

[left niche]

I got one yesterday

[lavish heath]

other rapier?

[left niche]

Espardate I think?

[thorny glen]

Espadarte, yea

[lavish heath]

isnt that from mirifur?

[thorny glen]

i got one shard from the new fort

[left niche]

New hotfix, duelos too

[thorny glen]

but avakot says its in the duelo loot table

[lavish heath]

damn

[thorny glen]

so...i should keep doing it then

[languid escarp]

it does, i've had about 5 frags from it

[lavish heath]

i need ot do more organs

so close to finishing the set

[thorny glen]

faster than fort, right?

[languid escarp]

yep

[left niche]

Yeah, its just a tad rare but its in there

[languid escarp]

i'm still after the master hat, got lots of all the other drops

[thorny glen]

after i get that rapier, all i would have is the 9 motes and 2 weapons from the new dungeon

then i'd get back to 100% current content gear

[reef arrow]

The second magician was found inside the bear's tale))) Help me please find the rest)))